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I'm not good with math. How is this statistically impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:27 AM
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Settling - Depends on which version of "settling" you are referring to. If you mean in the sense of "Do I check every box on his list"? Then there really is no way to know. A mature person knows that no person will have everything you want and nothing that you don't. The perfect partner doesn't exist. The fact that he's with you means that you check enough of them. If you mean it in the "Is he with me because I'm all he can get", then you just have to find out if he has options. How many GFs has…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/26 12:42 PM
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The saying only applies to heterosexual dating. Basically it means that men shouldn't ask women for advice on how to attract women. Because women aren't actually out there dating women. They have no experience in actually attracting women for dating and sex. Men should ask other men on how to attract women because it's men who are actually out there attracting women for dating and sex. On the flip side, women should get advice on how to attract men from other women. Since men aren't out here att…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:33 PM
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OP What is your definition of "good woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:16 PM
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I want to see the rest of that show.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 11:11 PM
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It makes more sense to ask your own sex for dating advice than the opposite sex. This applies to both men and women. If a woman is looking for advice on how to attract men, it makes more sense for her to ask a woman for advice. Here's why. If you're trying to be successful at something. It makes sense to look to people who have been successful for guidance and advice. So in dating, if a woman wants advice on how to attract men. It makes more sense to ask women who are successful at attracting me…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:07 AM
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Isn't that what women are asking from those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:55 PM
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Only if she's dumb enough to tell him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:18 PM
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It's not wrong. But this reads like a classic case of "Men vs The men that I want".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 02:14 PM
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To be clear, I'm asking about women he was with BEFORE you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:16 AM
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This fits exactly what I was asking about. "I want your pet name for me to be a pet name that you never used on any woman before me".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:15 AM
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Something can be a preference but not a deal breaker. You would prefer to be the first woman he's ever married but if you aren't, it's not a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:07 AM
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Just to be clear. I'm not only asking about sex and love. I'm asking about literally anything. It could be something like, " I want to be the only woman he's ever taken to Disney World".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 12:05 AM
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Just to be clear, for this question, I am specifically asking about, "I want him to have NEVER done this with/to/for any woman before me".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:15 PM
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How do you define "commitment"? Do you want a guy who has never had a girlfriend? Or is it a matter of how long the relationship was?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 12:14 PM
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There is no one type of man that will appeal to every boy. You mentioned Tate in the OP but lots of guys don't like him at all. Different people will gravitate to different role models. As for "ideal" there isn't one. Because if you asked people to describe this man, you'd get multiple different answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 04:26 PM
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I think that not getting dates or sex would be a strong form of discouragement.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 07:27 AM
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How did you come to that conclusion? Are you sure you posted the video that you meant to post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 01:57 AM
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By accepting her "No" and not pushing her?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:15 AM
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I'm confused by the video posted. I'm not sure how it relates to the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:40 PM
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Because a lot of men and women only look at the good parts of the opposite sex's life. They fail to look at the downsides and the cost of those good sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 01:22 PM
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It is when it's something superficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:35 PM
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I think most men would be fine with it if they knew that the same standard was being held to all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:37 AM
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I think the only way to be 100% is to not have sex until marriage. I'm not sure that's worth it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:34 AM
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There is no rule that says you have to be attracted to the people in your league. Think about it. If some fat ugly basement dweller isn't attracted to fat ugly basement dwelling women, that doesn't mean he's out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:31 AM
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I think it will work on man who aren't that. But you shouldn't do it for those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:33 PM
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You make good points. But I noticed that nowhere in your OP did you say, "These things don't work".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 01:28 PM
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You're still competing with other men. You aren't going to be the only one that is better than her peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:49 PM
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It will balance itself out. Women will get lonely enough to lower their standards within reason. They'll find good men who may not check every box on their perfect man list. In order to get those men they'll accommodate those men's needs. That will bring more men back into the dating game. The same will happen from the men's side. Men will step their game up to appeal to the more reasonable women. That will bring more women back into the dating game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:39 PM
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Some men can't handle it. Some men can. I know that's not a great answer but it's the truth. I think that most men won't have a problem unless the woman makes a huge deal about it. If she throws it in his face that she's better than him, I could see it being an issue. But it is important to point out that his issue might not be that it's a woman. Some people just hate not being the best. He'd be equally bothered by another man being better at something important to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:59 PM
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This is exactly right. I wish more people understood this. I wish this was said more in the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:15 PM
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That won't happen. The overwhelming majority of people will eventually get lonely enough to lower their standards and find a decent person to get with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 06:10 PM
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Nobody expects a woman to do that. But I question how many are really not pulling their weight. We view work as harder when we are the one doing it. I wonder how many of these wives are really doing all the work. I think it might be a case of her devaluing the work that the husband does because she isn't doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:06 AM
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Is it possible for two people to each put the other before themselves at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 11:30 AM
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I am a junkie for online dating content. It just fascinates me a lot. I think this sub has some interesting topics to discuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 11:18 PM
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because you really want to be with that person. THat person is your first choice. So, you try whatever you can to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 09:45 PM
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You make great points, but I have an issue with the "she is probably a bad person too". Because the women who end up in relationships with bad men don't think of themselves as bad. Plus if men made the argument, "She must be a bad person because she's dating a bad person", I think a lot of women would push back on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 08:04 PM
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Effort - Small things mainly. Will maybe cook for you sometimes or help you fix something that is broken. Will make time for you. It doesn't have to be some huge gesture. It's just little things that send the message, "You matter to me. And I want you to like me". Impress - maybe dresses a little nicer when he knows you'll be around. Maybe tries to show off a special skill that he has such has knowing a second language or showing photos of places he's traveled to. Maybe he plays an instrument.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:55 PM
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He makes an effort for her. He tries to impress her. I think it's that her opinion of him matters to him. He wants to spend time with even if sex isn't involved. The only 100% way to know for sure is if you know for a fact that there are other women who want to be with him. But, it's not likely you'll know if they exist or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:26 PM
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I can't and neither can he.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:59 AM
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But OPs point only works if he can prove that all of the women passed up multiple good men for superficial reasons before marrying a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:29 AM
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It also doesn't mean those men were rejected for superficial reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 02:53 AM
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I think people over-think this. Most likely the guy doesn't want to say the wrong thing and blow his chance with the woman. Also, I've seen plenty of dating advice for men that says "let her talk more" so she views the guy as a good listener.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:17 PM
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But that is because that what we hear about. The women who choose good men and are happy with them, aren't really in online spaces talking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:06 PM
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How can say that women are bad at filtering when we only hear about the failures?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:40 PM
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The whole thing comes from women shaming men for not wanting to date single moms. Some women online will not allow men to have any preferences. So women shamed men for not wanting to date women with kids. So, men pushed back. Then women attacked them more and men pushed back more. Now the whole thing has gotten out of control. If women would just accept that men get to have preferences and stop trying to shame men for them, all of this would go away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 04:32 AM
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You're only a simp if the effort isn't reciprocated or it's for a woman that you aren't even in a relationship with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 12:17 AM
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But doesn't that mean it's bad for the single moms and fat ugly women? They won't even have a guy to settle for because those guys will have AI girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:52 PM
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I partially agree with OP. I think having more casual sex helps men take women off of a pedestal. I think taking women off of a pedestal is big part of "seeing them as people". But I don't think it is the only way to take women off the pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:13 AM
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Men want to feel special too. Obviously it isn't sex. But there has to be something that women feel this way about. Isn't there something that women want a man to do with/to/for them, BUT they don't want a man who does that thing with/to/for a lot of other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 10:06 AM
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I think bringing up hookers doesn't fit in this case. Hookers are illegal and you have to worry about STDs. If hookers were safe and legal, there would probably be a lot more men using them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:26 AM
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If those men are low status, then how are they having so much success?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 09:23 AM
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I don't think anyone wants to know that they were someone's lowered standard. But I'd still be willing to give things a chance if I liked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 06:26 PM
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I'm not asking about hotness. I'm asking if either finds the other attractive. These are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:17 PM
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I think a lot of women want weddings not marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:15 AM
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I think it would be great. Assuming that I want to marry her as well. It takes the pressure off of me. Plus, I know that she really loves me. I see no problem with this unless I didn't want to marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:09 AM
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Does either find the other attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:57 PM
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Not choosing right has nothing to do with telling women HOW to attract men. It's about telling women WHICH MEN to pursue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:55 PM
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Friendship and Friendzone are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:12 AM
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That seems to conflict with what other women say. Usually what I see online is, "Those women were fooled by terrible men". Your claim seems to be, "Those women chose those terrible men because they are terrible women".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:37 AM
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What do you think "choose better" means? If you told a woman to "choose better men" what would you mean by that? The meme thing is BS. It assumes that ALL attractive men are assholes and that all unattractive men are assholes. There are attractive men who are kind, honest, caring and supportive. There are unattractive men who are kind, honest, caring and supportive. Ever demographic has both good and bad people in it. That meme is just a way for women to excuse their poor choices in men, "It's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:28 AM
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Then explain. Explain in detail exactly what the guy did wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 10:17 AM
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Should a woman have an opinion on how her husband is dressed? How would you feel if someone told you that you couldn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 11:37 AM
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I think people in general do this. We look at the best part about the other demographic and the worst part about our own. So when women look at being a man, they don't think about how men are the majority of the homeless population and the majority of violent crime victims. When men look at being a woman, they don't think about the dangers of pregnancy or dealing with sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 11:02 AM
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I mean there is more than one thing that can arouse a man. In case of sickos that rape people, it's exerting power over others. That does NOT mean that every man is turned on by that. Men are jealous of other men who sleep with lots of women. Not for having multiple kids by those different women. If a man slept with 20 women and didn't get any of them pregnant, other men would still be jealous of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 05:21 PM
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Rape is about power. It's not about looks. Those sickos get turned on by exerting power over their victims. The power is what turns them on. Second. Yes, women can more easily punch up to get sex. And yes, I'm sure some men envy that. But neither of those things means that men are jealous of women with multiple baby daddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:26 PM
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It's a case by case basis to determine if the men are equally bad. If she's a single mom because she cheated on her husband and he divorced her, then he's not a bad man. If he's just some deadbeat who got a woman pregnant and ditched her, then he is bad. If she has multiple failed relationships/marriages then either she chose multiple bad men OR she is the terrible on who ruined the relationships. Neither one reflects well on her and both a good reasons for new men to note date her. How many men…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:18 PM
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Sure. Men will lower standards. But it doesn't mean they are sleeping with ugly women. She still has to look good enough to make his dick hard. But that doesn't mean the baby daddy is very attractive. I've seen plenty of single moms in my life. Very few of them had a very attractive baby daddy. Most of them look like average dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:13 PM
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This is another case of "two different groups of women". You have the "I want to be friends first" group. And you have the "Ask me out immediately. Getting to know you is what the date is for" group. Personally, I think the issue with the "friends first" group is that they want it only if they are the one who starts liking the guy not if he starts liking her. So it's kind of a case of, "I want to date the male friend who doesn't want to date me".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:10 PM
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They just aren't attractive to her. That's the issue. That's what male friends are. Guys she likes but doesn't find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 04:07 PM
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But we know that isn't true. Plenty of average dudes have kids too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:46 PM
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So that happened with multiple men? That means that she either chooses bad men or she is the problem. I've never heard a man say, " I want to have multiple children and I want them to all have different mothers". I get that men want to sleep with multiple women. But that has nothing to so with wanting their kids to have different moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 03:45 PM
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Why would a man be jealous of this woman? There are two possible explanations. None of these men wanted a relationship with her. At least one of them did and she turned it down. Neither of those make her look good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 01:00 PM
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Why do you assume the baby daddy is very attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 12:49 PM
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I know. It won't happen. But it would work if they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:36 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 05:35 PM
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I've said multiple times on this sub, there is NOT a lack of good men. There is a lack of attractive men. So, if we're focusing on just making men more attractive, it's doable in some ways. If every chubby guy got in shape, or found a way to make more money, or became funnier then you'd improve the situation. Also, not every woman has the same definition for "good man". But to your overall question, I think that if every guy improved some of women's standards would go even higher. If i could mag…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:30 AM
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Women could do it by not having sex with those men. That would incentivize men to not sleep around before marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 09:45 AM
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I'd argue that being nice is not even a requirement for a lot of women. Plenty of morally reprehensible men have lots of success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:35 PM
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You still have to be attractive to her. If a women doesn't find you attractive, you can't "kind and caring" yourself into her bed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/26 09:16 PM
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On this sub, we constantly say that women aren't a monolith. They don't all think the same way. With that in mind, why is it so hard to understand that not every woman wants an egalitarian relationship. There are lots of tradeoffs in life. This is one of them. Some women, and men, would rather be taken care of than be an equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:48 PM
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But every rich guy isn't like the one you were with.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:34 PM
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It depends on if you count a man that she doesn't want as a suitor. It also depends on how you define "suitor". If there are ten men that all want the same woman but that woman only finds one of those men attractive, then is that ten options or one? Is a guy who just wants casual sex a suitor? Or, does that term only apply to men who want a serious relationship with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:39 AM
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There is no such thing as fair when it comes to dating. If you're unattractive, you aren't going to get many dates. We all get that. It's not unreasonable for a woman to not date that man. This issue men have is when that woman complains that there "are no good men" when what she really means is "there are no attractive men". The men feel overlooked because women are saying, "there are no good men". Those men are thinking, "I'm a good man. If women are looking for a good man, then why am I singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:32 PM
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You didn't remove attractiveness. You just excluded looks and height. There is more to being attractive. Being funny, sociable, fun to be around. Those are all part of being attractive. Those are qualities of an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:05 PM
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I push back on your first point. If you were right, we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's clear that men and women mean different things when they use the term, "good man". If by "good for dating" you mean BOTH GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE, then yes I agree. Like I said before. There is not a lack of good men. There IS a lack of GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE men. Emphasis on ATTRACTIVE. Finding a good man is easy. Finding a good man who is also attractive, is hard. There are enough good men to go around. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:02 PM
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But again, men and women view this in a different way. There isn't a lack of good men. There is a lack of attractive men. Like you said, looks, humor, and being fun to be around are part of being ATTRACTIVE. They aren't part of being GOOD. There are plenty of good men and women who are ugly. There are plenty you aren't funny. There are plenty who are boring. But they are still good people. Your google example is different. Google is looking for qualified people to do a job. Good in the context o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:04 PM
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They are assuming the man is already attractive. This doesn't mean that women are attracted to kindness. It means that she wants an attractive man who is also kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:22 AM
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I think that men and women have different ideas of what a "good man" is. I think that men are mainly looking at a man's character. Is he kind, caring, honest, faithful, considerate. Is he man of integrity and good moral character? Is he family oriented? Does he actually want to be in a monogamous relationship? By those standards, there are tons of good men. I believe very strongly that there is NOT a lack of good men. There is a lack of good AND ATTRACTIVE men. I think women view being attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:13 AM
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Men value other things in women more than money. I think that eventually, women will learn to value men for things other than money. It will only be a problem for women who value "makes more than me" above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:07 AM
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Which is even more of a reason that she'd feel lucky to get a guy making 65k.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 01:11 AM
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I think it's just the women who are high earners themselves. You make 65k so it's gonna be easier for you to get women who make less than you. A woman who is making 45k or less is going to feel like she really lucked up by getting you. A woman who makes 150k would see you as "dating down". But in general, the world is just more expensive now so people have higher income requirements in general. Just because they have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:17 AM
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Some men will place great value on it. They feel a sense of pride in having a woman that no other man has been good enough to get. Others won't think it's as big of a deal. Most men won't care if you've slept with 2 or 3 other guys. But many will be grossed out if you've been with like 15 guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:11 AM
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Liberals are having fewer children and conservatives are having more. Also, there are lots of conservative women. 44% of women voted for Trump last election. If conservatism dies out, it won't be because of sex. Also, men can lie about their beliefs. There will also be women who think they can change him. There will be women who will still date those men if they have other qualities that she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 12:08 AM
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Sadly, good manners and morals are only attractive to women who already find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 11:58 PM
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Men are expected to plan the dates, and outings much more than women are in dating. Sure, women do so but we're talking about a boring woman. She's probably not organizing fun things to go with her partner. My point is that if a man is dating a boring woman, he'll take it upon himself to bring excitement to the relationship. If a man has a good woman, he isn't going to break up with her because she's boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:30 PM
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In modern dating, men are expected to be the entertainers. So, we're used to coming up with ways to entertain ourself. Also, men just value other things more. I care more about how a woman treats me, how she looks etc. I can find other ways to entertain myself. And if I need something exciting to do together, I'll organize something.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 01:33 PM
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How are you going to convince conservative women to get on board with this?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:53 PM
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Boring isn't a deal breaker for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:43 PM
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Some guys can handle it and some can't. Nothing wrong with either. A guy needs to put his on mental well being first. If this woman is really your friend and really cares about you, she'll understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 12:38 PM
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Why do trustworthy, emotionally stable, and sympathetic, come into play? Lot's of men who are the opposite of these qualities have success attracting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:53 PM
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Very simple. A lot of the women are dating older men. A 28 year old woman dates a 31 year old man, she's included in the study. He isn't. Whether they know it or not, some of these women are dating the same man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 09:48 AM
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If I'm sure that there will be no cheating or a dead bedroom, I'll take peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 11:27 PM
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Can assume that neither will cheat or have a dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:54 PM
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You can talk about things other than work. You can talk about your day, TV shows, news, hobbies and interests. When you were a teen or college student and didn't have a job, you still found things to talk about. To answer the question, because they value women for things other than a paycheck. If a guy makes enough money to comfortably support the family, then he might prefer having a wife to takes care of the home so he doesn't have to. Question, do you feel the same about women who have stay a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 03:50 PM
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This thread made me think of this standup bit from Ryan Long. https://streamable.com/2uurtb
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 12:10 PM
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If it's so easy, then write down how to do it and sell it. You'll be a millionaire in less than a year. Also, mid men are not getting amazing women. Those women are mid too. My guess is that you are judging those women based on what women want and not what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 04:35 AM
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Of course not. That would be idiotic. But that fact is not a factor in this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 12:39 PM
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It's something we need to be more honest about. Plenty of morally terrible men have lots of success with women. Every year or so I see another news story about how some women who works at a men's prison has been caught having sex with an inmate. Just last year there was one where the inmate had gotten two women pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:22 AM
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3 wives? I think you mean girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 11:21 AM
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They don't know that you make 200k.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 11:36 PM
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It would be easier for men. Even the unattractive ones. You don't have to get rejected a lot. You just know that you have no takers because no women are asking you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:56 PM
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I have a hard time believing that you're telling women that you make over 200k a year and still have no takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 10:54 PM
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I guess the law could only apply to single and childless women. But I can't imagine the men from those countries being happy about loads of single women leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 06:01 PM
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It's easier for women to get casual sex because men's standards are lower. It's harder for men to get casual sex because women's standards are higher. Also, it's case of "People VS People that I want".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:57 PM
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Men were shamed for casual sex for years. They were called womanizers and accused of "using women for sex".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/25 03:15 PM
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What about men who do have casual sex but still want a woman with a low body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:16 PM
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"I prefer a woman with a low body count". You have no problem with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 12:15 PM
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Is your issue that you think the age of consent is too low? Or, do you just have a problem with the idea of someone wanting a girl the day she turns legal? Would you feel the same if the age of consent was higher? Let's say the age of consent was 25. Would you still think of a guy as a "pedo" if he wanted to sleep with a woman on her 25th birthday?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:23 AM
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Fine. But this isn't an example of HOW he's saying it. This is an example of WHO is saying it. Even the guy who has a low count himself, could shame women with high counts. He'll probably feel more justified when doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 11:15 AM
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I wonder how many of those women don't have any double standards in their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:39 AM
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I don't think there is any way that a man could state that preference without women having a bad reaction. What is a way that a man could say that in which you would not think less of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:38 AM
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That's not what I said. All I said was that society, both men and women, hold married men in higher regard than single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 10:18 AM
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It's not just women. A lot of men think this way too. For example, there are studies that show that married men are more likely to be hired for jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 10:17 PM
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True. But my point was, 6ft could be considered delusional because they are such a small percentage of men. "Taller than me" is totally realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:16 PM
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Sure. But ignoring them doesn't mean they don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:14 PM
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True. You don't have to do what is expected of you by society. But you'll have to accept that a significant number of people will view you differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 10:14 PM
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I disagree. Even today, you see women labeling men as "immature" if they don't want to get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:29 AM
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But the overwhelming majority of those movies end with the wedding. Those movies are about a woman GETTING MARRIED, not BEING MARRIED.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:26 AM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:18 AM
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But a large portion of society, including LOTS of women, have that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:07 AM
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For the women in your circle this is another case of "Men VS The men that I want". For the men in your circle it's a case of "Women VS The women that I can get". There are multiple studies that say marriage benefits men more than women. So, it shouldn't be surprising that men want it more. Also, marriage is a status symbol for men. A lot of people don't view you as a "real man" until you're married. But to answer the main question. I think men want marriage and families more than women. It seems…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 03:06 AM
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Because you still want the service. Nobody dreams of being a McDonald's worker as a kid, but they still want their fries.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:19 AM
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I saw a clip with one of the hosts saying that girls get more OF subs after being on their show.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 02:18 AM
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There's a big difference between "six feet" and "taller than me".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:54 AM
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I don't think it would make you shitty friend. It depends on how you saying. I don't think there is anything wrong with saying, "I think that guy is out of your league. But feel free to shoot your shot".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:51 AM
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Yes. She just go really lucky. Could what she did be replicated? If there were 100 women just like her and they wanted the exact type of man that she wanted, how many of them would get him? She's the exception to the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:30 AM
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You make a good point. But why is the answer to stay single and not improve yourself and make the changes needed to attract the man who does meet your standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:26 AM
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Finding someone who meets your standards doesn't mean they weren't unrealistic. The chances of you winning the lottery are so low that it's unrealistic to play. But people win every week. It's not realistic if ONE person does it. It's realistic if many people can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 01:24 AM
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I have no interest in it. I can't think of one thing it could do for me that I couldn't just do for myself. I'm also sure it would be really expensive to buy and maintain.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 01:19 PM
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I get your point. But I only see this called hypocritical when it comes to sex related things. Ex. I don't think anyone would have a problem with me being a fan of pro-wrestling but saying that I wouldn't date a female pro-wrestler. I don't think I'd be called a hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 10:13 AM
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Men don't want crazy women. A lot of men are willing to tolerate crazy is the woman is hot and the sex is great. Men aren't dating crazy, ugly women. Same as women. Women aren't attracted to assholes. They are attracted to attractive men. They will tolerate the asshole behavior because the man is attractive. There are no short, fat, and broke "bad boys" who are getting lots of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:05 AM
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I believe that a lot of men really want it. I also believe that a lot of men are only thinking about the positives of it. They aren't thinking about the downsides that would come with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:55 AM
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Pearl is just an act. She's making money by telling men what they want to hear. She's no different than Steve Harvey or Derrick Jaxn. They just told women what they want to hear. Pearl tells men what they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:49 AM
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How do you know it's because older women didn't want them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:29 AM
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But if he's gotta pay for attention, he might as well pay to get it from a younger, hotter, woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:08 AM
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Not true. If you aren't attractive enough to laid without being married, then you aren't attractive enough to get married. There doesn't exist a woman that would look at a man and say, "I'll only have sex with you if you marry me" and have that ONLY apply to that one specific man. Men do not have to get married in order to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 10:38 AM
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I agree. But that doesn't mean that men need spouses. Plenty of men have sex with women without having to marry them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:56 AM
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Men can have sex without getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 07:57 PM
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Usually it means 1 of 2 things. .1. A pure numbers issue. The man you have described is so rare that it's almost impossible that you'll find one that is single and that you are compatible with. For example, the 6ft thing. It's an easy example. The stats show that only 15% of American men are at least six feet. That already eliminates 85% of men. Then you have to subtract the ones that are gay, already in a relationship, mentally challenged or incarcerated. Then you have to take in account locati…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 12:40 AM
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It's not " good-quality relationship". It's " good-quality relationship WITH THE MEN THAT I WANT".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:24 AM
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It is easier for women. This woman has high standards and doesn't meet the standards of the men who meet her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:08 AM
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It is a factor. But it's not a deal breaker. Men can be morally terrible men and it won't result in them being sexless. If he's rich and/or attractive, a LOT of women will overlook his terrible behavior. I do think if he had identical twins who were both tall, handsome, fit men, one is a kind, caring, man and the other is a total asshole, there would be some significant difference in how much success they had with women. Which one would have MORE success is a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 10:28 AM
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Destiny's Child released "Bills Bills Bills" and then released "Independent Women".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 05:32 PM
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Simple. This guy aimed down to get laid easier. It wasn't about the specific woman. This guy just wanted some different pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:28 AM
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Because if he treated his GF the way he treats his female friend, his girlfriend wouldn't be attracted to him anymore. The treatment that female friends get is the same treatment that gets men labeled as "too nice" or "simps" or "Needy" by women. I think that deep down, men want to be simps. We want to treat women like queens. But we've learned that a lot of women aren't attracted to that type of behavior. I think a lot of guys want a female friend that they can do all those things for that get …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 09:48 AM
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Not all guys. But some guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/25 07:44 AM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 12:07 PM
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Nothing applies to every single person. Your example of the guy leaving the kid in the car isn't an example of a single mother. That's an irresponsible father who was in the picture. As dating the "nice guy", if he doesn't take care of his children, then he wasn't a nice guy. I think some of you are using the term "nice guy" when you really mean "unattractive guy". Unattractive men can be shitty people too. The point is this, GOOD MEN DON'T ABANDON THEIR CHILDREN. There is no guaranteed way to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:32 AM
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Entitled doesn't mean NEED. It just means WANT. Lots of men and women feel entitled to things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 08:34 AM
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Ok. Doesn't change what I said. We don't need marriage like we used to. A single man can outlive a married man if he lives a healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:16 PM
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Sure. Men WANT a spouse. But they don't need one. Same for women. They WANT a spouse. They don't need one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:15 PM
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Men don't need a spouse either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:25 AM
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It's not ironic for it to be the same woman. Your standards can be too high in some areas and too low in others. From what I see online, the women have too high standards when it comes to superficial things like height and how much he spends on a first date. Their standards are too low when it comes to a man's moral character. Of course that's just what I see online. Offline, most women have decent standards in both areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:21 AM
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Most men have no choice but to date down. Most women want to date UP so men have to date down in order to get a woman. You have a better shot at getting the women who makes less than you because the women who are your equal want men who are above you. But the main reason is that men care about other things more than money. We value women for much more than what's in their wallet. We care about how they treat us and how much time they can spend with us. Since women want to date UP, the woman belo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 12:22 PM
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Depends. Will she have sex with me even though she doesn't like it? OR is it a totally sexless relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:46 AM
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This is another example of "It only works for guys who don't need it". Not showing interest only works on a woman who already finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 11:13 AM
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Which means that she CHOSE to marry a terrible man because he had lots of money. She didn't have to do that. She decided that money was more important than character.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:38 PM
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I acknowledge it. But I also acknowledge that many women go against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:36 PM
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I see some potential issues with your ideas. Who selects the dating coaches? I see a lot of people seeing this as "taxpayer funded pick up artists". How do you know that the people are actually in a relationship and not just saying they are to get the tax breaks? You also don't want people feeling they need to stay together because they can't afford to leave. I like this one. But you have to get convictions. You don't put on the S.O. Registry just because you're accused. You have to be convicted…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 04:01 PM
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And many women still don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 03:30 PM
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How to walk, talk, act, dress, think, feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:36 PM
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There are other things that women are told to do and want from cradle that they don't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:03 PM
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It's not "only bad for him". It's only bad for him EVER. A lot of men want a women who is slutty for him but also has NEVER been slutty for any other man before him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 12:11 PM
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Men get away with it because it takes skill for a man to be a hoe. It's easy for a woman to bang lots of guys. It's not really an accomplishment. It's hard for a guy to bang lots of women. The guy gets praise because it was a lot harder. The best analogy I've heard for this is how we treat someone who builds a fortune vs someone who wins the lottery. We have lots of respect for a rich guy who was born poor, started his own business and built his wealth. Now after years of hard work, he's worth 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:29 AM
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It's a non-factor. A woman being funny doesn't matter to me at all. I can love a woman who is funny. I can love a woman who isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 10:09 AM
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Obviously, neither is ideal and I'd never date either. I see zero value in either woman. But if I were forced to marry either a prostitute who slept with 100 men for money or a slut who slept with 100 men for fun, I'd go with the prostitute all else being equal. Assuming they are both free of STDs, I think I'd trust the prostitute to be more faithful. She just did it for the money. So as long as we are financially stable, she's not going to bang any other men. I am less confident that the slut c…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 03:37 PM
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That's not the only thing. Honestly, just talking to women added to it. I've heard so many women say some version of "I see attractive women everywhere I go. I rarely see an attractive man". You ask women how many men they swipe YES on and the answer is always 20% or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:29 PM
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Then say that. Say, "I don't know what I find attractive in a man. I've been attracted to many different men who all looked different". Say that instead of giving qualities that you want in an attractive man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:15 PM
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Depends on how you define "settle". If you mean settle as in "Doesn't check every box on his ideal woman list", then damn near everyone is settling. There is no such thing as a perfect partner because no person is perfect. If you mean, "I lowered my standards to be with you. I can do better". Then none. If he could do better, he would be. If you mean, "You're the only woman that I can get. So I'll be with you because it's better than being alone". I think some of those exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 12:03 AM
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Q4W: All else being equal who would you choose. Both men are your age. A: Has had multiple girlfriends but cheated on more than one of them. But not all of them. B: Never had a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:38 PM
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Men don't organize. Women do. Women make a clear list of demands. They ask politicians about them. If they don't get a good answer, they label those politicians as anti-woman. Women tend to vote as more of a black than men. That's why candidates compete for "The women vote". If men organized more, then more candidates would compete for the male vote. I think it will happen now because of Trump's win. I see more talk than ever about "courting male voters".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:20 PM
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They don't submit to their boss. They do their job. Men have jobs. Are they submitting to their boss as well? But even if we call it submission, it's very different from submitting to her husband or wife. You get paid by your boss. Tens of thousands of dollars per year. The rules are laid out in advance. You know exactly what is expected of you at all times and the rules for you don't change. It's not 24/7. You "submit" to your boss for a set number of hours per day. Submitting to a spouse is al…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:16 PM
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I don't have one. There is not much I can do to get the birthrate up. I think the solution is the to make it cheaper to have kids. Make all prenatal care free including the delivery. More public funding of childcare for working parents. I'd do a UBI for SAHMs as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/25 07:16 PM
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I think average women are dating average men. I see average looking people with other average looking people whenever I'm out in public. Those people just aren't on the internet talking about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:58 PM
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Too many issues. What happens if they break up? Who defines what a "relationship" is? How do start dating someone who lives in another country in the first place? There are plenty of other ways to deal with falling birth rates. Men being single is not a crisis. There are plenty of other ways for people to migrate to the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 04:29 PM
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Really? So to you, there is no number high enough that it's ok for a guy to reject a woman because it and you wouldn't call him insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 12:20 PM
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The question assumes that if she's BI, she's not cheating on me. So I'm fine with her being BI as long as she is faithful to me. If she mess around with another woman, that's still cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:16 PM
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No. I think you overestimate how many men want to be parents. A lot of the ones who do, only want to parent their own child. I don't think declining marriage and birth rates will have anything to do with men dating divorced single moms. It will be more a situation of "What are that man's dating options". If divorced single moms are the ONLY women that will have sex with him, then he'll either date them or be alone. I think some men will do it. Some will prefer to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/25 12:49 PM
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I'm sure some of them are lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 08:32 PM
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Sometimes. But there are also women who prefer to do these things than have the man do them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:37 PM
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You're only looking at the negatives for women and the positives for men. Women can cheat on their husbands. Women can get pregnant by another man and trick their husband into raising a kid that isn't his. Men have more financial responsibility in the marriage. Men are responsible for the safety of the family. There's a risk of paying lots of money in a divorce. Marriage has its pros and cons for both me and women. It really isn't hard for a man to be single. I'm single with no kids. It's fine. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:02 PM
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Nobody should be shamed for their dating preferences as long they only involve consenting adults. That being said, "not shaming" doesn't mean that I have to agree with or support those preferences. I can NOT shame someone for their dating preferences while also thinking that those preferences are dumb and potentially dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 03:11 PM
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Here's why I disagree with the "beauty routine"/ "makeup is expensive" argument for why men should pay. She's going to wear makeup even when she's not with you. I would accept the "I wear makeup for you" argument if the woman ONLY wore makeup when she was with me. But she's going to wear it when she goes to work or out with her friends or when visiting her family. Women wear makeup when they are single. And let's be honest. If women just stopped wearing makeup at all, men would still try to date…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:48 PM
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You need to be saying this to WOMEN, not men. Men are only going to work as hard as women require us to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:38 PM
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This is one of the strangest posts I've ever seen. You don't need to defend women liking tall men. Nobody is vilifying women for liking tall men. Sure, we might point out how few tall men there are. But that's not saying you're wrong to like tall men. The point of pointing out how few there are is just a "how important is it really to you". I think being tall is the the guy version of having big tits. The opposite sex just likes the way it looks. It's nothing more than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 02:33 PM
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The women who want to help are coming to you. The women who don't want to help aren't coming to you. If you talked to more women, you'd find plenty who don't want to volunteer. By the same point, you gotta look in other places to find men. The thing is, the men who would volunteer, are probably busy with work and their own kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:16 PM
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I agree with your examples. However, this isn't "people you hate". This is "people who lack morals". They aren't the same thing. It's also not the same as an unattractive person being attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 05:38 PM
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There is BBC that isn't cuck themed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:18 PM
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Be careful though. The term "pick me" means different things to different people. If she just wants attention and validation from you, it's not a problem. If she wants it from multiple men, it is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:16 PM
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Why do you list pro-life as a red flag? Is this more of a "you should want someone who aligns with you on political and social issues" OR do you feel that there is something bad about a woman being pro-life? Like you'd even tell pro-life men not to date pro-life women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 02:14 PM
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No. How much a man respects a woman has nothing to do with if she asked him out of not. If a woman is with a man who doesn't respect her or the relationship, then he wouldn't respect it even if he were the one who made the first move. There are tons of women who have been in terrible relationships with terrible men and the men made the first move. If a woman makes the first move and gets rejected, it's because they guy wasn't interested in her. In my 40 years on this Earth, I have NEVER heard a …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 01:52 PM
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Yes. You are crazy. It was a pro-wrestling show and he went way too far. That other guy ended up in a hospital and there was a chance he'd die. I'm a pro wrestling fan and it's been the top wrestling news story this week. Most people think he should be arrested for what he did. Only the least respected people in wrestling are defending him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:24 PM
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Is there a socially acceptable way to say it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:21 PM
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What other reason is there to be a stay at home dad? I guess there might be a few idiots who think they'll just be watching TV and eating snacks. But being an at home parent isn't easy and most people know it. To the larger topic of more SAHDs, the issue is that not enough women want one for a husband. You can only be a SAH parent if you marry someone who wants a SAH parent for a spouse. I would like being a SAHD. But I'd have to fine a woman who both TRULY WANTS a SAHD for a husband AND makes e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:47 PM
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Ok. Your first part is totally wrong. I don't even know where you got an idea like that from. The second part is 100% true. A lot more men would want to be teachers if teachers were paid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:37 PM
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This is interesting. Are you saying that the ones who attack men for this are just a very vocal minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:35 PM
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I agree that you shouldn't lower your standards. You should step up your game so that you can attract the men who meet your standards. However, I strongly disagree with the second part. Lots of men compromise. You would be hard pressed to find a man who is with a woman who checks all of his boxes. Men just aren't vocal about compromising.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 06:23 PM
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Think of it like sex work. Are hookers attracted to the men they have sex with? Usually, NO. But you can still let a guy stick it in you for a while. So while there may not be a dollar amount that will make a woman attracted to you, there is a dollar amount that will make a lot of women act like they are attracted and let you stick it in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 09:11 AM
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I do think that it's mainly about attractiveness. Women will tolerate bad behavior from a guy if he's attractive. But your take on "bad boys" is a bit off. Women liking bad boys doesn't mean that average guys will crush it if they become assholes. Attractiveness still matters. However, I think it's fair to ask the question, "would a guy have MORE success than he currently has, if he was more of an asshole towards women"? If we compare, equally attractive nice guys and assholes, who has more succ…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 08:57 AM
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Not the same. Most men don't make enough money to do that. Plus, if the woman is working, she has access to the bank account and would find out what's happening. But I can see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:28 AM
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Yes it can be done. It's not impossible. But how many men actually make enough money in the first place to pull it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:26 AM
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But unless the woman has no access to the bank accounts, she's going to notice the money being gone. Men provide for kids that aren't theirs for decades in some cases. It's not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 10:00 AM
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True. But the issue is that the woman in this case isn't supporting that child even if she doesn't know about the other family. If she does know about them, then she gets to make a fully informed decision. With paternity fraud, neither of these things are the case. The man doesn't get to make a fully informed decision and he's the one financially supporting that child and the women who cheated on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 09:48 AM
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I disagree. That don't seem happy when they say that. They sound defeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 12:47 AM
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Great point. I did miss that. But I still reject the idea that men are "looking for an excuse". I don't believe that most men have some deep seeded desire to mistreat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 11:17 PM
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Fair enough. But I think many would argue that they are already doing what those men are doing and it's not working for them. I think it comes down to attractiveness. Those kind men and terrible men who have success are both attractive. An unattractive terrible man isn't going to have any success. An unattractive kind man will have very little and possibly none.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:49 PM
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True. But it's hard to keep being good when you see bad people being rewarded. It's not "being good just to get something". It's realizing that I might have a better chance of getting what I want if I stop being good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 08:18 PM
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We bring it up because men who are unsuccessful are accused of not being good people. In reality, a lot of terrible men have lots of success with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:20 AM
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Lots of attractive men are also kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 10:18 AM
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We're not looking for an excuse. We're calling it like we see it. The more attractive a man is, the less kindness and respect he has to show women. This isn't a woman thing, it's a people thing. Because men do it too. We will tolerate more bad behavior from a person the more attractive they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/25 09:56 AM
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Women can approach men. They just choose not to. As for being approached by unattractive women, men are naturally bigger and stronger than women. So there is much less risk for us saying NO to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 07:44 PM
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What else can a man approach you from? He doesn't know anything about you until he approaches you and gets to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 06:01 PM
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That's the big one. The things that starts young men on the path to "red pill manosphere" type thinking is NOT getting rejected by women. It's seeing morally terrible men have success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:48 PM
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Women love nice AND ATTRACTIVE guys. Being nice doesn't make you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:32 PM
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"great jobs" what does that have to do with this? Both good and bad people can have great jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:27 PM
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I'm aware of that. But I think it's better to tell people to improve themselves rather than tell them to lower their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 12:48 PM
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The men saying this don't want to be with those women. They are pointing out that those women who are complaining aren't good enough to get the men that meet their standards. The response to women should be to step up their game so they can get the men who meet their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 08:51 AM
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I don't even understand the question. I've always viewed people as individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 05:57 AM
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It would be great if that was true. I wish that morally bankrupt men never got laid. That being said, there are SOME men who don't get laid because of character flaws. But not all character flaws make you unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 11:15 PM
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All this because he loves a woman who doesn't love him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 10:45 PM
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So why did they marry the guy in the first place? Isn't it settling that they married him in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 02:02 AM
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Generally, I would say NO. Unless this person is very well off financially. Then consider it. I know it sounds harsh. But if you're dating a millionaire who gives you a very comfortable lifestyle, it might be worth letting them have a side piece. I say this to both men and women. But that's the only situation in which you should even consider it. If they aren't really rich, then you're better off single than with someone who cheats.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 10:12 PM
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That makes sense. I think there are for sure some things that women notice more because it has been done to them or another woman they know. Maybe there are some red flags that are more noticeable to your own sex and others that are more noticeable to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 02:42 PM
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I think men are better at vetting men because of our similar life experience. We know what it's like to be a man because we are men. We know the tricks that men pull because some of us have pulled them. We know the lies that men tell because some of us have told them. We're going to notice the red flags that women don't. I think it works the other way around as well. I'm confident that women are much better at identifying bad women than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:18 PM
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What are the states where the women are more friendly? I feel like if there was a state these men could go to tot get the kind of women they want, then they'd go to those states. It's not about friendly. That's not what those men are looking for. Interesting question, what kind of women do you think these men would be with if they could have any kind of women on Earth? Like if they were magically made irresistible to women and ALL women wanted them, who would they date and marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 01:09 PM
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Those women don't know that they are sharing those men. That's why they created things like, Are we dating the same guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:42 AM
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A extremely small percentage of men are featured on the tea app. It only includes men who were attractive enough to get those women in the first place. The majority of men are good men. The majority of women are good women. The issue is NOT a lack of good men. The issue is a lack of GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE men. Find a good man is easy. Find a good man that you are compatible with is hard. By compatible I mean: You find him attractive. He find you attractive. You have compatible personalities. You ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:36 AM
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I partially agree. Every example of "the bar is in hell" that I've seen was an example of a man's character. So I think the bar is in hell when it comes to character. I agree in the sense that the bar is only in hell for attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:29 AM
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Exactly. It's on women to make other women raise the bar for men's character.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 01:14 AM
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That's how it came off. Describe what you mean by "WOULD need a man".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:38 PM
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NEED, doesn't mean that she is helpless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:17 PM
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Most men are fine with taking care of a woman when she's the kind of woman they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 06:15 PM
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Yes they can exist at the same time. The bar is in hell, refers to men's character. The male loneliness epidemic is due to attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:34 PM
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different people like different things. the second woman is cute. Seems down to Earth. Sydney is a celeb who will be huge headache. If she wasn't famous, I could see more people picking Sydney. The stereotype of Asian women is that they are more traditionally feminine. I think a lot guys look at the Asian woman and think, submissive, sweet, will take care of me etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:25 PM
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Being in a relationship doesn't make other people unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 05:16 PM
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It is only SA if there is violence or a threat of violence to her or someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:07 PM
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So then teach the stable guy to be more exciting. Using your words, "If he loves her enough" he will.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 03:32 PM
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So what's the difference? Both are a woman trying to change a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:09 AM
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But she'll try to get the fun guy to get his shit together?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:32 PM
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Why not try to make the stable guy more fun? I think it would be a lot easier to make the stable guy more fun than to make the fun guy more stable. If you want a doctor who rides a motorcycle, it's easier to date a doctor and get him to buy a bike than it is to date a biker and get him to go to medical school.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 08:20 PM
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Those men are around in large numbers. I'd argue they are the majority. I think that most people are good people. This issue isn't a lack of GOOD men. There is a lack of GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE men. There has to be compatibility. Everyone knows or has known a good person that they'd never date because they aren't a fit. Finding a good man is easy. Finding a good man that you are compatible with, is hard. You have to find him attractive. He has to find you attractive. You have to have compatible pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:38 PM
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I need some women to clarify something for me. That pop the balloon clips keeps getting posted. Is women's issue with this guy WHAT HE DID or HOW HE DID IT? Is he bad because he didn't want to date a trans person? OR Is he bad because you felt he rejected her in a disrespectful way?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 11:19 PM
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I think this is it more than anything. Seeing terrible men have lots of success with women changes the way a lot of men think about "what women really want".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 02:22 AM
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Why not both? I can think less of those men for being terrible AND think less of the women who flock to those terrible men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:27 AM
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But women are still "entertaining" him. Having sex with someone is "entertaining" them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 01:13 AM
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If you're right, then how do you explain all the women talking about their "toxic ex"? If women didn't entertain toxic men, there would be no "toxic exs".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/25 12:40 AM
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But yet BEING a criminal isn't a deal breaker for some women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 07:53 PM
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It's more, "What does she bring to the table of the men that she wants"? And how many other women are bringing that same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 10:11 AM
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Yes. There are people really good at lying and pretending. We all get that. That doesn't mean "choose better" isn't valid. It's difficult. Sometimes things that need to be done are hard to do. We keep pointing out that "choose better' is about character because of multiple post showing that some women think it means, richer and taller. Let's not pretend that every woman with a bad man was tricked. A lot of women knowingly date bad men. Every other year, I see a story about a woman who works at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:51 AM
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Those aren't the only options. You have the option of self improvement. Step up your game. If you are unable to attract the people that meet your standards, then learn what their standards are and work to meet them. If you're looking for your ideal partner, then become their ideal partner. As for lowering standards, it depends on which standard. Are they WANTS or NEEDS? You are better off single than dating a person who doesn't treat you with respect. You should lower standards when it comes to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 09:21 AM
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People are free to do things that aren't pro "them". I'd bet that if a politician was saying, "I want to ban onlyfans", the loudest voices against the politician would be women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 08:13 AM
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These all sound like good ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 03:25 PM
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What would those standards be? Like you said, even if the actor says they consented, how do we know they weren't drugged or coerced into saying it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:15 PM
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Oh. I misunderstood. So doesn't this mean that viewing any porn with real people in it is bad because you have no way of knowing if it is consensual? Is there anything that you do accept as proof of consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 02:08 PM
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I don't think you're talking about good men. I think you're talking about attractive men. But to answer your question, they don't really need to get married. It's a risk that they don't need to take. We live in a world of convenience. They don't really need women for the traditional domestic tasks. If you're an attractive man, you can get women to have sex with you without a commitment. If you don't get married, there is no risk of divorce. I think of growing number of men just don't want the ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:54 PM
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Doesn't that apply to all porn, not just live?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:45 PM
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Anyone can mistreat anyone. There is no secret to guaranteeing that you won't be mistreated. I think that all you can really do is get better at vetting men's character. But is no foolproof way to do that either. I think the response that women get is based on what the "bad treatment" was.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 01:23 PM
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If every woman stopped shaving, men would complain for a while but then just accept it. Give it about a year and we'd all have learned to live with it. The sad part is, there would be women who betray other women by shaving their legs again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:45 PM
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I don't watch live porn so I don't know how it works. How does one go about confirming if the actress is doing it consensualy or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:41 PM
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This is an interesting thought. I'd argue that a lot of it is caused by a large number of individual actions. You have more women choosing to sexualize themselves because it gets more male attention which women can use to their benefit. I think if you wanted to take away a woman's freedom to sexualize herself, you'd be seen as anti-woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 12:18 PM
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I wasn't. I was pointing out that when men say "choose better" we're talking about character. A lot of time I see posts by women that make sound like we're talking about "looks, height, and money". I never said that average looking guys can't be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:45 PM
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Depends on what they claim she did. If it's "She steals money and tried to stab me" I don't see many men taking it as a challenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:32 PM
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Of course people can fake their personality. That doesn't change anything I said. Nothing is fool proof or perfect. "Choose better" is about character.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:23 PM
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fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:20 PM
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I agree. But that still isn't what OP was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 12:10 PM
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"Choose better" is about character. "Choose better" means have higher standards when it comes to a man's character. It's not about how handsome or tall or wealthy he is. It's about what kind of man is he on the inside. Is he honest, kind, caring, faithful, etc. Is he a man of integrity. "Choose better" means that if that man is tall, handsome, and high earning, but is of low moral character, don't date or sleep with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:49 AM
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I don't have a problem with the saying. I just think that men need to hear it too. I think those guys stuck in the friendzone are a great example. They are giving women girlfriend treatment and then get upset when she doesn't want to be their girlfriend. Why should she? You're giving her girlfriend treatment already. Why should she make a committment to you in order to get what she's already getting. I think you could say that those men are "giving their milk away for free".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 10:08 AM
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But controlling your desire and eliminating your desire are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 09:53 AM
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Maybe. But I have the feeling that if these guys were working regular office jobs, they'd have much less success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:21 PM
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The problem with these examples is that they are all celebs. Fame attracts women. How much success would these men have with women if they were NOT rich and famous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:57 PM
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I disagree. Women have egos too. Most will not be able to share a man. There ego won't let them. If the choice comes down to "Knowingly share a man who checks all the boxes on my list" OR "Have a good man who doesn't check every box, all to myself" women will go for the good man who doesn't check every box.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 10:11 AM
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I disagree. I think men are told to accommodate much more than women are. Women are told to leave the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 02:59 PM
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Why are men told to accommodate women's egos? I don't know. Nobody tells a woman to accommodate a man's ego or insecurities. They tell her to leave him. Personally, I don't always think it's a bad thing to accommodate someone fragile ego or insecurity. It really depends on the person and the pros and cons of being with them. I'd need specific examples to really give an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:57 PM
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There nothing you can do about men having fragile egos. You can't control the men. You can only control yourself. If a man were posting, we'd tell him how to strengthen his ego. The only thing that will make those men take accountability is being alone. As long as they are still getting women, they have no reason to change. It's a double standard though. Lots of women have fragile egos and men are told to accommodate them. No one ever tells women to stop being insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:43 PM
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Pearl is an act. She tells men what they want to hear. That's how she makes her money. I don't know about this man she is with, but maybe she finds him attractive. As for Lauren, she might very much be a pick me behind closed doors. She landed the 4th richest man on Earth. She must be doing something centered around him. Nothing about her says, "I don't care what men think" to me. I think the question is how we define "male centered". Does it just mean traditional. If a woman wants to be a wife …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:34 PM
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Literally the opposite of what I said. I'm telling you to NOT tolerate those men. Go get the ones who aren't like that. Become the kind of woman who attracts men who DON'T have fragile egos. Become the kind of woman who attracts men who LOVE to see their woman shine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:25 PM
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You entire post boils down to, "I hate having to care about men's feelings". I'd bet my soul that you want a man to care about your feelings. You want a man to think about how something will make you feel before you say it. But you don't have to worry about any of the things listed if you step up your game. Become the kind of woman who can attract confident men who aren't intimidated by a woman who shines.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:54 AM
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I saw a historian talk about this once. The desire for knowing paternity came with the advent of private property. When people were in tribes, everything you build belonged to the tribe. So, you didn't have to ask what happened to it when you died. But when we moved away from that, we then had to answer the question, "Who gets my stuff when I die"? The obvious answer is, "I want my kids to have it". So, now a man needs to be sure that they really are his kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:09 AM
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So how many is too many for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 11:02 AM
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That's not what it means. He's saying that it would be a deterrent for some men. Some other men would commit crime anyway. But if a criminal record gave women the "Ick", I think there would be a drop in the crime rate. It wouldn't drop to ZERO. But it would drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:44 PM
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I don't think he was implying that crime exists because women date criminals. That was what you asked him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:37 PM
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It's not a double standard. Just because you support someone's right to do something, doesn't mean that's the person you want to date. Smoking is a dealbreaker for me. I would never date a woman who smokes. But if someone wanted to outlaw smoking, I'd oppose it. I'm a big fat guy. Just because a woman opposes fat shaming, doesn't mean she has to date fat guys. It doesn't make her a hypocrite. But to answer your question, it's the big compromise that we have to make in dating. There is a balance …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:36 PM
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The way you worded your response made it seem like you didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:21 PM
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The idea is that if men knew that a criminal record meant no woman ever, then much fewer men would ever commit a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:31 PM
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You shouldn't be concerned about upsetting men in your attempt to choose better men. As for the examples you gave, they all have pros and cons. Pre-selection is risky because plenty of terrible men have lots of success with women. The guy could just be an attractive scumbag. Every guy knows an asshole who got laid a lot. If you want to go after a guy that lots of other women have been with, you need to ask the question, "Why are none of those women still with him"? On the flip side, there are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:50 PM
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I think most people just are moral. Most people are good people. Not perfect. We all make mistakes and make an occasional bad decision. But most people aren't thieves or cheaters or murders or rapists. Everyone tells an occasional small lie but most are honest when it counts. In the context of dating and relationships, I think most people are people who would treat you well in a relationship. It doesn't mean you'll always get your way. There will be times they say NO to you. But most people aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:06 PM
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I disagree that good men are rare. I think that "GOOD AND ATTRACTIVE" men are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:17 PM
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Fucking isn't a roster. Dating is a roster. A woman having casual sex with multiple men isn't having a roster. A woman dating multiple is having a roster. College kids hooking up with other college kids isn't a roster. A woman having a roster is, "I'm dating 3 different men. And those three men are only dating me".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:26 AM
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Every thing you listed would be avoided by a woman being careful who she marries. Live with a man for a while before getting married so you can see what it will be like. Look at how he takes care of his own home. Ask yourself if you'd be ok living in a home like his. But to be honest, I think a lot of women don't actually want to be married. They want to have a wedding.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 11:01 AM
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They go for their complement. The woman who has the things that he doesn't have and meets his needs. I don't see a lot of rich men marrying rich women after they are rich. But some do need a woman who adds to their status. Some marry the women around them because they get to know them better. Those women have more chances to win him over. I agree that most rich men don't care about a woman's wealth. I've never heard a man say, "She must make at least (insert dollar amount) to date me". Looks are…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 10:49 AM
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Yes, that happens. But how often. How many women actually have rosters? I guess it's more like one guy that she actually likes and others that she uses. But I'd argue that there are way more guys with no woman than there are guys sharing a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 09:03 PM
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It's the female equivalent of "chicks dig jerks". It's putting the blame on the opposite sex for failing at dating. There are plenty of smart, strong, powerful women who are in happy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:35 PM
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How many other women are each of the Chads hooking up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:21 PM
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Men aren't sharing women. How many men on Tinder are the women on Tinder actually having sex with? OP, assuming you are a woman, how many men are currently "sharing" you? As for a woman's options, do a man she doesn't want count as an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 06:20 PM
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I've never seen that once. Please link an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 12:35 AM
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I've never seen this anywhere. Post proof of men saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:09 PM
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I'd think it was a scam. Does this woman have no family or friends or coworkers that she can go to? Why does she need to ask a stranger on a dating app for help? Under no circumstances would I tell this women where I live or agree to meet her. I'd tell her to call the police and keep calling until they do something. Whatever person told you that a dating app is a way to escape an abusive relationship is an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/25 11:08 PM
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There are a lot of things wrong with me. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 02:50 PM
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I had lots of female friends in college. It had ZERO effect on my dating life. It didn't make other women interested in dating me, my friends never set me up on dates or introduced my to any single women. I enjoyed my time with my female friends. They were great people who I loved spending time with and have memories that I will cherish for the rest of my life. But it had no effect on my dating life whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/25 03:11 AM
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If you prefer verbal consent then go for it. If a woman has a problem with giving it, then she isn't the right woman for you. But in a first meeting and early on, it's safer to get verbal. Don't risk your freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:40 PM
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Thank. I have a question about the last two. Wouldn't "I'm ok with taking our time" be a lie since he wants to move faster? With the girlfriend getting hit on example, "I think some women would view that as him not caring". It's it risky?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:41 PM
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Could I have another. In this scenario, the woman wouldn't only know that the man is emotionally mature after she has dumped him. I doubt she's going to change her mind and want to date him because of how well he handled the breakup. Could you give a scenario in which the woman is more interested in dating the man after she sees his emotional maturity? Or one in which she doesn't see his maturity only AFTER she has rejected him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:28 AM
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I'm not watching three entire shows. I asked for a simple example scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 02:13 AM
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Give an example to illustrate what you mean. I think it would be helpful. Present a scenario and tell us what you think an emotionally mature man would do in the scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 01:15 AM
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She seems nice and is cute. Just not super hot. That tells me that there are men who are interested in her. But the guys who can get women hotter than her, probably aren't. That tells me that she either has a terrible personality OR she just doesn't want the men who want her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:35 PM
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I guarantee, that woman simply doesn't want the men that want her. She doesn't want the men who would proudly brag to his friends, cook her breakfast, and take home to meet his mother. To answer the question, it would suck if a woman that I had genuine feelings for kept me secret and ditched me the minute something better came along. Getting to sleep with her a few times would make it suck less, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:45 PM
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You'd have a great point if all women had that standard. For a lot of women, being nice isn't the bare minimum. Plenty of women date men who treat them like shit. For some women, being a law abiding citizen isn't the bare minimum. They regularly date criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:27 AM
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We don't know what goes on behind closed doors. Maybe Lauren just treats him like a king. Maybe she's the submissive obedient woman that red-pillers claim to want.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:15 AM
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/family-relationships/article/im-a-successful-black-woman-so-why-arent-men-into-me-110056986.html
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:08 AM
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I do think that most women's "perfect man" list would include "handsome" and "rich".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:50 AM
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I guess you could call anything less than 100 percent as settling. But if that's the case, then pretty much everyone settles. How many people are actually with someone who checks EVERY BOX on their ideal mate list? To answer the question, I'd be happy if I could get a woman with 80 percent of what I want as long as she didn't have any of my deal breakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:36 AM
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It's not something I'm a fan of. But I won't begrudge anyone for getting money legally. I would never date an only fans model. Not even casually. I have a much lower opinion of the customers than the models.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:43 PM
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This applies to men too, doesn't it. Doesn't telling men to not want women who look like models and go for "real" women, mean those men will be in unhappy relationships. We shouldn't tell women to lower their standards. But they should be more realistic about them. They also need to step up their game in order to meet the standards of the men who meet their standards. Women are raising the wrong standards. They are raising standards for things like height and money. They need to raise their stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:44 AM
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. She's hot. No question. But I've met hotter girls than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:40 AM
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I think you give her points because of fame. She beautiful for sure, but I went to college with girls that I think a much more attractive than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:04 AM
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How are these two things related in any way? This makes no sense. If women want promiscuous men to be viewed the same was as promiscuous women, they should reject promiscuous men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:27 AM
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I wouldn't want to date a celebrity. I don't want to be part of that world or that lifestyle. A woman being a celebrity is a deal breaker for me. I think some men would want that life though. I could also see men doing it for the ego boost. They want to date that woman just so they can say, "I dated her".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:25 AM
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You don't know if she's better until you get the DNA test.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:17 AM
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I agree. I want them to be more selective and date fewer men. I just wish their character standards were higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:52 AM
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I agree. But he'll get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:24 PM
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I agree with everything you said. But he's going to get women. My original point was the person I replied saying that women like ambition and not money. I disagree. A lottery winner is going to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:07 PM
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I agree with all of that. But it doesn't change the fact that if you will 300 million, you'll have plenty of women to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 04:01 PM
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7.5
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:54 PM
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I agree with you. Men should not be offering to spend money on women they aren't dating. But if he does, the woman shouldn't accept it. Friends set their friends up on dates all the time. Lots of women will introduce their female friends to guys they think they'd hit it off with. It's a very common thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:51 PM
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I'd strongly suggest working on yourself rather than lowering your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:01 PM
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Not sure about that last statement. If some bum won the lottery and was instantly a millionaire, he'd have multiple women interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 10:36 AM
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Ok. OP. Here's the question that needs to be asked. Why isn't that woman with a man who DOES meet her standards? Why don't those men want her? Why isn't she meeting the standards of the men who meet her standards? If a woman doesn't want to lower her standards, fine. But that means that she needs to step up her game. She needs to become better so that she can attract the men who DO meet her standards. I don't want women to lower their standards. Especially when it comes to a man's character. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 08:24 AM
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Just ask them? The next time you see a man say "choose better" ask them to elaborate on what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 07:38 AM
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I'm sure we can think of some. I want a house wife who pays half the bills. There's an unreasonable standard. But seriously, your standards are too high if you don't meet the standards of the people who meet your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:34 AM
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It means to choose men of higher moral character. Women's standards when if comes to a man's character are way too low. When women say, "The bar is in hell", they examples they give are always related to a man's character. So, women need to raise the bar when it comes to character. Women need to place character higher than looks, height, money etc. Those things matter. But they shouldn't matter more than his character.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 01:21 AM
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Just out of curiosity OP, what about women who can't find a boyfriend? Have they just not lowered their standards enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:47 AM
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No. Just don't lead them on. It's not that hard. Don't let him spend money on you. Don't ask him for any type of "boyfriend" treatment. If you meet a girl you think he might like, introduce them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:25 AM
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Those women are loyal to their friends. They aren't going after you because they know their friend likes you. It doesn't mean they don't find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:36 AM
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Simple. Don't date men who do that. Don't date men who say "I can't live without you". Don't date men who buy you gifts soon after meeting you. Don't date men who say, "I can't stop thinking about you".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:20 AM
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It's only for the first few years. Then they are in school for 8 hours a day. More if there are afterschool programs. There is no vacation from being a PARENT. Working or not. There is no bonus for working extra hard at being a PARENT. Working or not. There is no promotion for being a PARENT. Working or not. None of these things are unique to SAHM. They all apply to fathers and working moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 09:17 AM
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Like many things, this is an example of "There's a difference between MEN and THE MEN YOU WANT". Is there an expiration date for getting a man? No. Is there one for getting the kind of men that you want? Sometimes. It depends on what kind of man you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:05 AM
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I think that's the point of contention. Men and women have different opinions on the difference between "Recognize patterns" and "Read my mind".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:49 PM
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I care about the action. Not the thought. I think a lot of men would agree. I think women have a "I want you to WANT to do it" mentality. I'm the opposite. I value it MORE if I know you didn't want to do it. You care about me so much that you did something that you didn't want to do just because you knew it would make me feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:09 PM
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No. I'd never be bothered by it. As long as she did it when I asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:05 PM
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Sure we like getting things without asking. But we're fine with asking for them. We don't see the action as "lesser" because we had to ask. It seems like women feel the action was meaningless because they had to ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:29 AM
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When I see this topic come up it makes me wonder, Do you women want men to not ask for things? Would you prefer if you man never asked you for anything and gave you the opportunity to do it without being asked? What should he do if you don't do the thing that he wants? Do you currently do things that your man wants without being asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 07:44 PM
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I got the point of the original post. It's just that this specific thing stuck out to me. What is wrong with wearing something because you BF/GF likes how you look in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:33 PM
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What's wrong with wearing a dress because your boyfriend likes it? I'm sure if a woman wanted her boyfriend to wear a shirt that she likes, everyone would tell him to wear the shirt because his girlfriend likes it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:17 PM
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Most women don't really deserve princess treatment. Just because you find a man who will give you princess treatment, doesn't mean you'll be attracted to him. There are a lot of women who know men that would give them princess treatment but they aren't attracted to those men. The question isn't if she can get princess treatment. It's a question of if she can get it from THE MEN THAT SHE WANTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 03:39 AM
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Sometimes. It really depends on the friend. By my female friends have paid for me when going places too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 07:08 PM
1

What about someone who just wants a person with lots of experience? I've heard a lot of women say that they prefer a man with more sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:48 AM
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Would you feel the same way if it were the other way around? A person with a low body count wanting someone with a higher one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:07 AM
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People can be taken advantage of by people their same age or even younger.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 02:31 PM
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So you believe that there is NO age in which someone is experienced and mature enough to date whoever they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 07:32 AM
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Based on your post, what you want is to raise the age of consent. The question is, "At what age is average person experienced enough to date whoever they want"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 10:06 PM
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Sure. There are always exceptions. But I think it's safe to say that for the overwhelming majority of women who aren't having sex, it's because they don't have anyone that they want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 06:53 PM
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Because in our society and pretty much every other won, the rule of dating and mating is that men pursue women. That is the basis for every double standard in dating. We view a female virgin as a woman that no guy has been good enough to get. We view a male version as a guy that has failed to get any woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:13 AM
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I say it's the woman version of "Chicks Dig Jerks".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 10:10 AM
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yes maybe no maybe if she's ok with me not going IF she's my ideal woman in every other way, yes. no no no if she's my ideal woman in every other way, yes maybe yes yes no yes Yes, If I made enough money to comfortably support the family no yes yes yes Yes, if she doesn't try to stop me from playing. no yes no no no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:56 AM
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No it isn't. If you can't have love, you can date for money, for clout, for status. Or just date someone who loves you even if you don't love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:41 AM
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I know this isn't the main point but, Jeff Bezos was never broke. Don't fall for the myth that he's some rags to riches story. His parents gave him more than 200k to get Amazon off the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:40 AM
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If " doesn't cheat, hit women, or commit crimes" is the bare minimum standards, then why do so many women date men who don't meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:36 AM
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You can set boundaries. You don't have to do anything for her that you wouldn't do for a male friend. If she doesn't respect your boundaries then don't continue the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:16 AM
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Would you give the same advice to men for these same reasons? Don't date women who earn a lot more than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 11:03 AM
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I think it's more about how much of a reduction it is. I doubt your preferences eliminate 80% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:28 PM
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I wouldn't call it unreasonable. But you don't need to make six figures to have a comfortable life. However, it is a long shot to find. That's the main point people are making when this subject comes up. You said yourself, only about 20% of Americans make that much. That's a pretty small percentage of people. If a woman wants a man who makes six figures she only has 20% of all Americans to choose from. However, it's much smaller than that. You have to remove all the women. Then all the married m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 11:11 PM
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I think that IF this happens, women will learn to value men for things other than money. Because if the options are date a man who makes less or share a man who makes more, they'll date the guy who makes less. They will still want men for other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:09 PM
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Reasonable women aren't on dating apps. If they are, it's not for long. When your standards are reasonable, it's not hard to find a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 06:29 PM
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They want the benefits of marriage without the responsibility. They lie because they know the woman will leave eventually. No woman wants to be a girlfriend forever. If you're afraid of being that woman, then just set a hard out. Set a certain amount of time and if you're not married by that point, you end the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:52 AM
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First thing, most women have REASONABLE standards. The vast majority. It's just the unreasonable ones that go viral on the internet. You don't go viral for saying, "I just want a nice average Joe that I get along with. Give a me a guy who is 5'7 and makes 50k a year". To answer the question, I think unreasonable falls into two categories: A guy who is clearly way out of her league. Standards that conflict with each other. It's usually a time/money situation. But mainly it's unreasonable when she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:37 AM
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You have to consider, how many of that man actually exist. I've read that only about 18-20% of all Americans make 100k or more per year. So you've literally eliminated about 80% of the country. Then you have to remove the women, married men, and gay men. That drops the number significantly. Then you have eliminate all the ones who live too far away from you. You can't date guy who lives on the other side of the country. Then you have to eliminate the ones who don't have the other qualities that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 11:03 AM
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I guess if someone is honest with themselves and says, "I don't have the traits that they people I want are looking for and I'm either unwilling or unable to attain those traits. I don't want the people who would like me as I am now. Therefore, I will just remain single". In a odd way, I'd actually respect that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 10:53 AM
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They aren't complaining about women dating those men. They complaint is that women date those men and then complain about them and label all men as terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:12 PM
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That's wishful thinking. It's possible that there will be a lot of women who just stay single rather than "date down".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:30 PM
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You can do non-porn stuff on Only Fans.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:07 PM
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QFW: Do you subscribe to anyone's OnlyFans? If not, what type of content would get you to subscribe to one?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:45 PM
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Acknowledgement is enough if you actually acknowledge it and aren't just saying that you do to shut men up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:46 PM
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Protection of your rights require someone else's labor. Your right to your property can only be protected through the labor of cops.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:12 AM
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So, you're gonna fight the world potentially?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:10 AM
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By that logic nothing is a right. You need people to protect your rights. Police, military etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:53 AM
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Did you post a list?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 10:45 PM
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Stating a fact is not putting blame on anyone. Several different groups of people have responsibility in this. Trying to put all the blame on the mother or that father accomplishes nothing. Of course dads have a responsibility to be there for their kid. No one is denying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:52 PM
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This would only work on men who are really stupid. Any guy with common sense would get proof of your permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:35 PM
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Just so we're clear, how are we defining cheating? Flirting? Kissing? Sex? What about emotional cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:32 PM
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Other than drugging them and putting them in bed with another person, I can't see how it would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:28 PM
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Some people are happy with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:27 PM
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No. They are still legally married. Once the divorce is final, then I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 11:04 PM
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Women go on and on about how women can tell things about guys as soon as they meet them. I see women online all the time talking about "women's intuition" and how "Women can smell your desperation" or "Women can tell that you are a misogynist/incel" Since women tend to go on and on about how easily they can spot a bad guy, then we can only assume that they are choosing those bad men. On a side note, how religious could this church girl have been if she was having sex before marriage? Isn't that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:16 AM
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Came across this commercial for a dating advice book and tape from the 90s. Thought you'd all get a kick out of it. https://streamable.com/3c83ch
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 08:53 PM
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Their own life experiences. If a guys own life experiences are the opposite of what guys like Tate say, they aren't going to become a fan of his.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:38 PM
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No. He's trying to buy her love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:05 PM
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I agree with you. But I think a lot of other women would call that an ultimatum and controlling.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 02:50 PM
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at least once a week
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 12:27 PM
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In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:57 AM
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Zero. He can do what he wants with his money, but lets see how that works out for him. I want an update in a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:56 AM
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That seems too simple. Sometimes my behavior is dictated by their behavior. Also, ending a relationship is a behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 11:30 AM
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I understand you point about not forcing your partner to change. I agree with finding people who already are what you want. But what do you do if they change after you get with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:26 AM
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I'd have no problem dating that woman. What's wrong with someone seeing they need some help and getting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 09:45 PM
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Why do you say it's not true beyond that? What do you mean by "beyond that"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:42 PM
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Some people do well being solo. I'm one of them. I've never been in a relationship and I'm fine never being in one. I'm not opposed to being in one. But I'm fine if it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:39 PM
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Does if have to be the middle of the street? I'm sure you could lay in your driveway or yard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:36 PM
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It depends on his age. A 19 year old guy living at home or with roommates is fine. A 40 year old man doing so is not. A guy living with an ex should be a deal breaker. That's just weird. Same for a woman. I'm 39 so I'll answer for a guy in his mid to late 30s. Living on his own. His own apartment at least. A car isn't required if you live in an area with good public transportation. I've lived in the DC area for 10 years and never needed a car. However, I grew up in a small town with no public tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:05 PM
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Her dating pool is smarller because she wants an equally successful man. If those women were willing to financially date down, they would all be married. Just find a good dude who makes less. As long as she's fine with him making less, he'll be fine with her making more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:13 PM
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It really depends on what the past is and the details of the cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:08 AM
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When I see a homely guy with a hot girl and I know he isn't rich, I want to learn from him. Nothing but respect for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:48 PM
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I'll just point out that according to Wiki "Franklin is the one who filed for divorce". That being said, I think you made some good points.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:19 PM
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I'm sure it is to some women. But it's not to too many. If being a good person was attractive, then terrible men wouldn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 11:02 PM
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It really depends on how you define "good option". If it means a man who will treat you with kindness and respect, there are lots of them. If it also includes attractiveness, then not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 09:01 PM
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I think a lot of men and women would cheat if they knew they'd never get caught. I'd bet most people in relationships have at least ONE other person that they'd like to fuck. Maybe a celeb crush or something. But I don't think most people are cheaters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:46 PM
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because negativity and over the top behavior is what goes viral online. Those things are just more entertaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 11:48 PM
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Living in mom's basement is a deal breaker at my age. I can live with messy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:52 PM
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Depends on how you define "obsolete". I think it's no longer needed. People get married because they WANT to. Not because they NEED to. You can have a fine and comfortable life without ever getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:58 PM
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Maybe. But to me it's like when I see people blaming a mass shooting on violent video games. They'll say the guy shot up the school because he plays "Call of Duty". My question is always, "Then why don't they all do it"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:55 PM
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I don't believe that media leads to real world action. I don't think people shoot up school because they play Call of Duty. I don't think anyone is going to rape anyone because they play this game. That being said, I don't understand why anyone would find fun in this. I don't understand why anyone would find a rape game to be entertaining. I believe in freedom of speech. That means I support people right to say things that I find disgusting. So, I don't support any government banning this game. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:41 AM
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I don't think there's such a thing as a normal family.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:32 AM
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You have a better chance since you live in an area where most of those people live. I'm just pointing out that very few people in America make that kind of money. It's clear that you are not the norm. You are part of that 21%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:28 AM
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I'm not 100k is a lot of money. It's that very few people actually make that much. According to this Yahoo Finance article only 21% of Americans make 100k or more. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/58-people-100-000-bare-203016715.html Of that 21% of people, how many are single, heterosexual men who have the other qualities that you are looking for, don't have any of your deal breakers, and don't live too far away from you? Also, depending on your lifestyle, I'd argue that 100k is a lot of money. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:08 AM
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Could you go into more detail on what "above average intelligence" means to you? Describe it so I have a better idea of what you mean. As for the man you're seeking, other than the 100k or more, I think there are plenty of men who fit the bill. I would strongly suggest being flexible on the 100k. There are very few single men who make 100k or more and those men are going to have a lot of options when it comes to dating. I would consider how important that really is. Could you not live comfortabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:54 PM
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Because the women are the ones giving them problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:25 PM
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Because the matchmakers aren't having as much trouble finding matches for men. Men's list are a lot shorter than women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 03:18 PM
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One of my best friends LITERALLY proposed to his wife with a ring in a pokeball. They are both super nerds who go to Star Trek conventions together. I go to cons, literally went to one last week, and there are always couples there enjoying it together. There are WAY more women who like anime and video games than there are guys making six figures in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 10:41 PM
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I have dreams like that some times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:47 AM
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Did I pay for the two empty seats? If not, I'm sure the flight attendent would just move him and there would be nothing I could do to stop it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:21 PM
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I'm not saying to date broke men who won't spend a dime on you. But don't judge how much he likes by how much he spends on the date. A dinner date doesn't need to cost $100. How much a man spends on a date has a lot more to do with his financial situation than it does how much he likes the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:08 AM
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I agree. When men "choose better" we're talking about character. Why is there not more discussion about that online? I go online and I see women talking about things like how much money to spend on her. I don't see enough talk about character.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:58 PM
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What are those standards in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:28 PM
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I can. The reason that so many have dating struggles is that the people they want, don't want them. You can meet someone who has everything you want and they aren't interested in you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:45 PM
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Sure. But so do men. It is easier to be single today than at any other time in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:43 PM
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Fair. Date people who value the things that you bring to the table. I agree. However, that person my not be the person that you find attractive. It may not be the person that you want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:41 PM
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I get all that. But some people won't care about any of that. Just because you put a lot of time and effort into something, doesn't mean anyone else has to care about it. I'm a good cook. I put a lot of time and effort into getting good at it. Some women aren't going to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:27 PM
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The woman still has to find the man attractive. That standard hasn't changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:12 PM
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This applies to women too. Men don't need to get married to get sex. You can pay for domestic stuff. Women have to put in a lot more effort these days if they want commitment. Especially if it's from an attractive man with options. Both men and women have to try a lot harder than their mothers and fathers did.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 02:11 PM
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I get your point. But if you bring something that I don't care about, then does it really matter that you bring it. Do you really get points for bringing something that the other person doesn't care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:54 PM
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I think that for most men, the things we want in a friend are the same things that we want in a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:29 AM
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I think it would be great for dating if we ever reached true gender equality. I want people together because they want to be, not because they need to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 01:02 PM
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No. Most men would not be sex workers if they could. Just because you're fine with it, doesn't mean that other men have to be. Not wanting to date a sex worker doesn't make you a bad person. Just out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about women who wouldn't date a sex worker as you feel about men who won't?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 07:24 PM
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Then why do so many horrible people have no problem getting relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 01:22 AM
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I think marriage is obsolete. We no longer need it. We still want it. But we don't need it. Considering everything you listed, why is it that women are the ones seeking marriage more than men? It's women who pressure men into marriage and give the "marry me or else" ultimatums.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:02 AM
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https://www.xe.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:12 PM
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Give me a dollar amount.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 02:11 PM
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What is moderately rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:40 PM
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Sure. Nothing wrong with that. But she needs to understand that high moral character is MORE important than being six feet. Don't date a bunch of 6ft guys and hope that one has high moral character. Date men of high moral character and hope that one of them is 6ft.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:19 PM
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They aren't the same thing. When men say "choose better" we are talking about character. Choose better means to choose men of integrity and high moral character. Choose men who are kind, caring, honest, family oriented, God fearing (if you are religious). When we talk about women having unrealistic standards, we're talking about things like height and looks and money. You don't need a guy to make six figures. You need a man of high moral character. You don't need a man who is six feet tall. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:04 PM
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Sure, redemption is a thing. You can be a good person who used to be bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:54 PM
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In a dating context, we agree. I would 1000% advise women to never date a man who has gone to prostitutes. It's illegal most places and no woman should date a guy who breaks the law. It's totally irresponsible because no telling what diseases he might have. My disagreement is your use of the phrase, "lunatic who hates women". But, I for sure put them in the "bad" category.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:59 PM
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Because we don't see an field being female dominated as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 09:21 AM
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I think those words are totally fine. A person a can be a good person but not the right person for you. But that doesn't change the fact that they are a good person. It is black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:58 AM
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I'd put them in the bad column. It's illegal in most places so they a law breakers. In the places where it's legal, it's still irresponsible because of the health risk. I think "lunatic who hates women" is a stretch. I wouldn't automatically give that label to every guy who goes to a hooker. Why did you ask this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:55 AM
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They don't need to witness it. But if a woman is going around just talking about how men are all scum, then it's unlikely that she's asked herself these questions. The woman who has asked those questions, is not going to be the one complaining that all men are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:17 PM
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Not the one you replied to but I'll throw in my 2 cents. An example would be a woman who has dated multiple crappy men. Accountability would be asking: Why am I attracted to bad men? Why are bad men attracted to me? How do I learn to tell the difference between good men and bad men? How can I make myself more attractive and attracted to good men? Then actually making changes in behavior based on the answers to those questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:53 PM
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Does he have a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:16 AM
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Sure. People will go down in one area to go up in another area in dating. My main point is that, if it's not related to socioeconomic status, it's not hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 03:28 PM
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Hypergamy is about socioeconomic status. Wanting someone who makes more money than you is hypergamy. Wanting someone taller than you is NOT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:11 AM
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Maybe not mainstream. But it's something I've seen multiple times. Sometimes it's said as "smashing the patriarchy would solve every MRA issue".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 07:01 PM
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I've seen feminist say that every MRA issue would be solved by feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 02:43 PM
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No one is owed anything. No one likes getting ghosted. Men are just pointing out how much it sucks. Pointing out how something sucks is NOT entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 12:18 PM
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Speaking highly is not a reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 10:59 AM
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I've never heard them say that money was the primary factor. But tons of women say they don't want a broke man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 12:12 PM
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So was she only with him for the money in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 11:13 AM
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I like this. But for this to work, you also have to encourage women to reward positive masculinity. In order for men to base their value on women, then women have to be willing to date inexperienced men. For men to not value money, women have to not care about how much money a man makes. For men to be vulnerable, women have to not be turned off by men showing vulnerability. Either than, or you have to teach men how to be content never having a romantic of sexual relationship with a woman for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 10:14 AM
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Wanting you equal is NOT hypergamy. Hypergamy is wanting someone HIGHER than you on the socioeconomic ladder. There is nothing wrong with wanting someone who has an equal income to yours. However, I will point out that the higher you are on the income ladder, there fewer people there are who are your equal. So, if you're making really big money, at least consider dating someone a little bit below you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:52 AM
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Yes. Women can struggle with dating. Their struggle is different from the male struggle. But lots of women struggle with dating. You are NOT seeing 10/10 women with average men. You are greatly over grading these women's looks. I'd love to actually see a picture of one of these couples. Also, define 10/10 for me. To me 10/10 means a literal model who could be on magazine covers. I'm thinking Pamela Anderson in the 90s. Going by what I see online, most women's struggle is "I don't want the men wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:44 AM
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But whatever number you get, it's actually smaller. The calculator doesn't take location into account. How much of that 1% lives in your area? It also doesn't take personality into account? How much of that 1% has a compatible personality to yours? It doesn't take lifestyle into account. How much of that 1% has similar political and religious views as you? How many match with you on kids and how to raise them? That's why you want there to be as many people who fit your criteria as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:18 AM
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https://realitycalc.com/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:13 AM
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But how can the bar be that low if women aren't lowering their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:19 PM
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Explain something please. I constantly see women saying, "The bar is in hell" but I also constantly see women saying "Rise your standards and never lower them". How can these two sentiments exist at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:56 PM
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Consider yourself lucky. They man you wanted is less than 1% of the population and you still managed to find him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:20 PM
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Also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 12:46 PM
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I disagree. Monogamy benefits men. Especially the less desirable ones. They can just lower their standards to get a woman to themselves. What you are suggesting, only works on a small scale. There aren't enough women willing to have and sleep with multiple men to make this work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 11:36 AM
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No. You have an ankle monitor. That means you got convicted. Considering how most people don't even think a woman can be an offender, you had to do something with solid proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:57 AM
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In general, accountability is being able to look at a situation that you are complaining about and asking, "Is this at least partially my fault"? "Is there something, within reason, that I could have done to prevent this situation"? "Is there something, within reason, that I could do change this situation"? In a dating context, taking accountability could be several different things. If every BF you have is a scumbag, then taking accountability would be asking certain questions and answering the…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:31 AM
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So then why are there so many pro-life women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 12:08 PM
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You answered a question that I didn't ask. Why do you think there wouldn't be a lot of pro-life men if men got pregnant? Women get pregnant and there are tons of pro life women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 11:26 AM
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Why do you think this? Women get pregnant and there are lots of pro-life women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 02:35 AM
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So, you look like you don't want to be approached and you aren't being approached. So work on looking approachable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 12:00 PM
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Nobody loves unconditionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 11:35 AM
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Easier said than done. For this to happen, you have to find a way to greatly reduced men's desire for sex. I don't know how you do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:52 AM
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I would want to look at how the women who say that actually treat the men who make less. I'd bet that some times, it's not that he's intimidated, it's that she doesn't treat him with kindness and respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 10:34 AM
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My bet is that your sister isn't as pretty as you think she is. But I'd bet that your issue and hers isn't that she isn't getting interest from men. She isn't getting it from the men that she wants. Men you don't want, are still men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:50 AM
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These groups are not trying to change traditional views of masculinity. LGBTQ has nothing to do with masculinity. They have their own issues to fight for. That's where their focus should be. Body Positivity movement leaves out men. The people who preach "you're beautiful at any size" only say that about women. They aren't out there claiming that 300lb men are healthy and sexy. Feminist tend to be very old fashioned and traditional when it comes to male gender roles. Here's the thing. If you're g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:48 AM
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Very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:27 AM
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Aren't you pretty much suggesting that the government provide everything that a father does?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:21 AM
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This is a terrible example to illustrate your point. This is 100% on the woman. The man has been clear that he only wants sex. If the woman wants more, then it's HER responsibility to walk away.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 09:02 AM
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Everybody wants perfect. But most of us are mature enough to understand that perfect doesn't exist. There is always a tradeoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/25 07:20 AM
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I'm confused. Are you asking why men don't fantasize about rping? OR Why men don't fantasize about being rped?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 11:58 AM
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As long as I can do it to you, too. But if there was a quick and easy way to know if your man had cheated on you, I wouldn't have a problem with a woman doing it. There are lots of women who trusted their man totally and then found out he was cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:40 AM
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Also, there is no issue that enough women agree on that they would do a sex strike.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 11:09 PM
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That's my point. There are tons of men who "saw their wife as separate from other women" and then found out the kids weren't his.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:20 AM
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I get that. I get what you are saying. But I also get that there are lots of men who trusted their wife completely only to find out that their kids weren't their years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:08 AM
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Ive watched multiple videos from this woman. In every video she says that she was finding great men but the women wanted perfect. Again, watch more of her videos. She talks about women being too picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:18 AM
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Most don't. Some do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 01:16 AM
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The insult is that she said that he WASN'T the kind of man that she would hook up with. You have to keep in mind that for the majority of the dating and mating process, it is men who chase women. So, we place a lot of value on how easily and cheaply we can get sex. To many men, if the other guy didn't have to work as hard, or wait as long, or spend as much money, that means you aren't as attracted to me as you are to him. So when she said that, he took it as, "You aren't good enough to get sex W…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:46 PM
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Being high value is more about scarcity than qualities. The reason high value men are high value is because of supply and demand. They have qualities that many women want but are in short supply. The reason a man who is 6'3 and makes 200k a year is considered high value is because only 15% of men are 6ft and over while only about 20% of Americans make a six figure income. So, the question isn't just what qualities do men want in a woman. It's what qualities do men want AND are in short supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:38 PM
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The woman in the video is literally saying that she quit because women's standards were too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 11:28 PM
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No. It means that he wants HIS WIFE to be a virgin. The fact that he's trying to fuck virgins shows that he clearly cares a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:57 PM
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I'll take Life B. If the only downside to life is that you don't get laid, I'm good with that. You can't miss it if you never had it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:56 PM
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Anyone at any income can be financially responsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:59 AM
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Men can only be hypergamous if women aren't. I can't date up if the woman also wants to date up. She won't be interested in me because she wants someone better than her. Her being more educated and successful doesn't mean she will treat me better. I care more about how she treats men than how much money she makes. Also, how much of that money is she going to spend on me? If she makes more money than me, is she still going to expect me to pay for the dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:25 AM
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Because romantic feelings aren't instant. You make a friend and those feeling develop over time. When they met you, they really did just want to be friends. Over time, their feeling toward you changed. Love at first sight, isn't a real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:22 AM
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That's a cope though. I saw a clip just yesterday of a woman saying that Ryan Gosling was average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:14 AM
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You think it's wrong for men to force women to adapt to how men deal with problems. But you want to force men to adapt to how women deal with problems. I think the world would be better if women adapted to how men deal with problems because then the problem would get solved a lot faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:02 AM
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The care so deeply that being rejected by you breaks their heart and being around you is a constant reminder of that. It makes you feel like you aren't good enough. It makes you feel like no woman will ever love you. It especially sucks when she dates other guys. It leaves you thinking, "What's he doing that I'm not doing"? "What's he got that I don't got"? I think the guy who stays your friend is the one who only saw you as a conquest. Rejection doesn't hurt him because he just wanted to fuck. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:00 AM
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Why do you assume that he was never a genuine friend? I hear this from women a lot. It's not that he wasn't a real friend. It's that getting rejected hurts. A LOT. He needs to pull away for his own mental well being. In fact, I'd argue that the guy who remains friends is the one who just wanted a shot. Men don't get hurt by a rejection when it's a woman we just wanted to fuck. It only hurts when it's a woman that we really cared about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:42 AM
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No. That's not what I'm saying. The point men are making is that a woman's money doesn't make her any more attractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:47 AM
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When men say they don't care about those things, they mean that those things don't make us any more attracted to a woman. The best I've heard it said is, "Money doesn't make my dick hard". Besides, even if the woman is educated and has a good job, the man is still likely to have to pay alimony. You are in a way suggesting that men should marry women they don't want in order to avoid alimony. Those won't be happy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:11 AM
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Why should it cost me $200 dollars to get to know you? You aren't spending $200 to get to know me. I've gotten to know hundreds of people in my life. Not one has cost me $200. So why are you so special that it should cost $200 just to get to know you? If I have to spend $200 just to get to know you, then I already know all that I need to know. You're asking me to spend money to prove myself to you. So you're degrading me. Out of curiosity, what does the women have to do before checking if there …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:45 PM
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So neither of us is having sex with anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:43 PM
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I think the problem would be that we don't always want the people who like us the way we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:52 PM
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Depends. Am I allowed to have sex with other women? Is she having sex with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 05:46 PM
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Disclaimer: I'd never use this service. I would never buy a prostitute. But to answer the question of what price tag I'd put on this. A woman comes over, cleans my apartment, does my laundry, cooks me a meal and then has sex with me. 300-400 dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:58 PM
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Because husbands spend money on their wives. When he gets divorced, he isn't spending that money and the women doesn't have that money being spent on her anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:51 PM
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Doesn't the OP assume that the man and woman are married? The average Joe is going to be providing financially for his kids because they live with him. If nothing else, he's paying for the home or rent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:37 AM
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Depends on where you live, what kind of house, how much the wife is making etc. My point was, that men aren't complaining that women want a guy with money. It's the amount of money that they ask for that is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:52 AM
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This isn't a question of "deserve". Nobody deserves anything. My point was that men aren't complaining about women wanting a man who makes decent money. The complaint is these numbers that are higher than needed. You're not a gold digger if you want a average joe making average money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:50 AM
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No. The standard is the same. My point stands. It depends on how much she is asking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:47 AM
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If she's not working at all, then I understand wanting a man who makes a really high salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:45 AM
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Obviously you have to adjust the number based on where you live and how many kids you want. But I stand by the statement that no man would complain about a woman wanting a man who makes 50-70k. Also, don't forget to add in however much the woman is making. I guess if the woman wants to be a housewife, she'll need a man who makes more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:40 AM
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I think the best way to start with choosing better is to ask the question, "What was this man doing with his life when I met him".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:36 AM
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It depends on how much she's asking for. You don't need a man making 200k a year to live a comfortable life and raise a family. No man is ever going to complain about a woman saying, "I want a guy making 50-70k a year".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:27 AM
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I'll go with B.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 05:11 PM
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How often is Woman A doing those things? If it's a monthly thing, that's too much for me. I feel like having kids would be a big issue. We can't be traveling all the time when we have babies and then small children who have to go to school. I feel like this woman would be miserable being a mom. Is Woman B going to want me to do those hobbies with her? I'm a homebody but I have no interest in any of those activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 12:36 PM
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It's not that women would raise the standard. It's that if every man is/has/does X then X becomes "The bare minimum" in the eyes of women. So if every guy had six pack, then having a six pack is now "the bare minimum".
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 07:18 AM
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can not can't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:35 PM
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I'm not making an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:23 PM
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Q4W: What percentage of incel men do you think fall in the category of: "You don't want the women that you can get"?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 05:11 PM
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I'd like to hear the husbands side of the story.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:29 PM
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But whose to say the mom even wants an event. His mom might be totally fine with a gift and a card and some kind words.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 04:28 PM
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In 39 years, I've seen it a lot. They want a chick to be a whore for him. But not have been a whore for any other guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:53 PM
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Possible reasons. Men: He's not too attractive and that's all he can get. The women with kids are women that he'd never be able to get if they didn't have kids. They've lowered their standards because having kids makes them unable to get the men they want. Women: He is really attractive. That's why he has kids in the first place. Some people just don't care that you have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:28 AM
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I think it's more that some men want that women to like sex but only do nasty stuff with him. Some guys want a woman who sucks their dick. But they don't want her to have sucked any other dick before his ever in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:50 PM
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Not loving you doesn't mean he hates you. That's a very strong word. I understand that some men and women will date people that they don't really like for various reasons. Money, they're all you can get etc. But I think HATE is way too strong of a word here. I think you're using the word hate when you really mean indifference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 05:29 PM
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What does that look like? What specifically would you do in the supermarket to let a guy know that it's ok for him to approach you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:41 PM
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I don't but with 400 billion, he'll buy someone that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:39 PM
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There was a whole crop of videos of women attacking men and calling them creeps for even looking at them at the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:30 PM
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Is he asking the woman to help him hide it or is he lying to her and pretending to be straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:27 PM
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I think he comes off as a real life super villain. I'm starting to think this guy is really trying to take over the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:25 PM
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The difference is, the Dungeon Master is going around saying, "I want a brilliant, geeky Valedictorian". They are honest about the fact that they want the cheerleader.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 12:07 PM
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Help me out here. How does boredom = hate?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:59 AM
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I think it's that when women give their description of what they find attractive in men and what they want in a man. Then we as men should be able to look around and see that the men who fit that description are having the most success with women. By success, I mean getting laid the most, having the most women interested in him, getting the best treatment from women, getting what he wants from women. A lot of men look around and see that the men who fit women's description aren't having the most…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:58 AM
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Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself. The manosphere was around LONG before Trump got into politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:57 PM
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I like it. If they aren't going to date better men who will treat them properly, I'd rather they not date at all than date shitty men and complain about it constantly while blaming ALL men for their poor choices. If you can't seem to find ONE good man that you like, I'd rather you not date at all. But, I don't think this "Be happy single" thing will last long. I think the majority of women will eventually get lonely enough to lower their standards and date GOOD MEN who don't check every box on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:44 PM
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Simple. Most PEOPLE aren't child free. Most PEOPLE want kids. So no matter what group you are talking about, this question applies. Why are so few poor people child free? Why are so few rich people child free? Why are so few (insert any race/nationality) people child free? etc. etc. etc. Child free people are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:45 PM
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Do those men exist? yes. But that's usually not the reason. Usually the confident, smart women is physically unattractive or has a bad personality. There are women with PHDs who are happily married? There plenty of successful women with husbands. I think that saying "Men are intimidated by smart/confident women" is the female version of saying, "Chicks dig jerks". It's blaming the opposite sex for your dating failure. It's saying, "There's nothing wrong with me. There's something wrong with them…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:37 AM
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Send me one of her videos so I can judge for myself. Send whatever one you think is the best example of what's wrong with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 09:45 AM
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How does she tear down other women? Could you give men an example. I've never seen her videos. Nothing wrong with thirst traps. I'd bet the women who hate her also post them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:19 AM
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It's both. VIP treatment IS the bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:45 AM
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They aren't undesirable. They just aren't desirable. Those are NOT the same thing. It is neither a turn off nor a turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:29 AM
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High value isn't the right term to use here. "High value" means that you are in demand but in short supply. But to answer the question anyway, stay in shape, be drug free, treat me well, be honest, loyal and faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:28 AM
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Pick better, is rarely used when talking about abusers. When men say, "pick better men" we're talking about men who lie and cheat and don't pull their weight in the relationship. We're talking about women who pick the "bad boy" and then complain about how they treat her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:44 PM
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Depends on the grudge.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:32 PM
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Not being interested doesn't mean he's holding a grudge.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:40 PM
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That alone isn't enough to make me break up with her. It all depends on if and how she has dealt with the trauma. Starting to cry anytime she thinks I'm upset with her would be an issue. Revealing her abuse to me while we're on a date would be an issue as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:17 PM
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You just did. They want to go viral. If you go viral you can make a lot of easy money.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:58 AM
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It's good to clarify. If I'm her first choice. If her first choice is the safe choice then I'd rather be the safe choice. If this is a woman who doesn't want spontaneity, doesn't want drama, then I'd love to be with her. The reason a lot of men don't want to be the safe choice is because a lot of time the safe choice isn't the first choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:59 PM
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If the woman actually desires me and has passion for me then either would be fine. If "safe choice" means she doesn't truly want me, than I don't pick that. I don't want a woman who is only with me because she can't be with the guy she actually wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 10:03 AM
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Outside of illegal stuff, scat, lactating, preggo, animals. That would just disgust me. As far as making me feel insecure, if all the guys in the movies looked the same but not like me. Like if all the guys in her movies were Latino for example. I'm not Latino. So, if all the men in her movies were Latino, it would make me think that she has a Latino fetish. I don't have a problem with a fetish. But if I don't fit the fetish that would worry me a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 09:30 AM
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No. I'd be a big hypocrite if I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:44 PM
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This isn't a hoe phase. This is a woman with mental issues who couldn't handle being alone. That alone makes her not a HVW. The mental issues. Even if this woman hadn't had sex with any guy after her husband, the mental issues make her not high value. Also, you clearly don't understand what HVM and HVW mean. A HVM is a man who possess many of the qualities that women want in a man AND is in short supply. A HVW is a woman who possess the qualities that men want and is in short supply. The term HV…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:01 PM
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No. It's just stating the information. If I recall, she had said that she rarely turns him down. So he showed the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:51 AM
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That's because the internet says that anything a man does is bad. If it were the other way around, the internet would have supported the wife for keeping a spreadsheet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:59 PM
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Why do you call it entitled? Nothing about this is entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:56 PM
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It really depends on how much money the man has. A man who has a lot of money won't care as much about a woman's money. In general, it just means that your money doesn't make my dick hard. Men also are less likely to date a woman just for her money. It's why you'll rarely see some wealthy old woman dating a hot young guy in his 20s. But another reason is that women don't spend money on men the way men spend on women. Even if you make good money, most women still expect the man to pay for dates a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:45 AM
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I wouldn't have any problem with her having given up a child. I would question why she never told me this before we got married. It would make me wonder what other secrets she's keeping from me. My questions would be: Why did you give up the child? Do you want to contact the child? I can't imagine any answer that would make me leave her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:17 AM
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Pretty much any movie where the nerd gets the hot popular girl at the end. Big Bang Theory for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:55 PM
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Yes to all. I wouldn't want my child doing porn. I wouldn't want my child having sex with 100 people in one day. Although, I'd be curious as to how my son kept his dick hard in order to have sex with 100 women. Because that technique would make us billions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 08:11 PM
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He's worked hard and become successful to the point that he doesn't have to work anymore. Now he's enjoying the fruits of his labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:50 PM
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I said MAYBE. If you're gonna quote me, include the entire quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:16 PM
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If they didn't actually sleep with them, don't tell me. It will just bother me and make me suspicious. I don't want to know that you ever considered it. Yes. Because they didn't actually go through with it. I think monogamous relationships are great. But I don't have a problem with a poly relationship if that's what both people want. Lust is stronger than love. Plenty of people have ruined their love by giving in to lust. Lust will make you betray the person you love. I'm single so I can't answe…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:39 PM
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Why do you assume that the formerly promiscuous woman is going to want sex every night once she's married? Why do you assume the virgin will only want sex rarely? Maybe the promiscuous woman has had her fun and doesn't want to have as much sex now. Maybe the virgin wants to have sex all the time because she finally found a man who was worth the wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:23 PM
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But it was only done in response to women shaming men for not wanting fat women. It's the same as the whole thing with single moms. The reason men push that so much is because women shamed them for not wanting to date women with kids. All of these debates happen because women shame men for having preferences. If women didn't shame men, then men wouldn't shame women. It's just retaliation. But men don't care that women prefer tall men. We just want women to stop shaming us for not wanting fat wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 11:18 PM
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I wouldn't risk it. If my kids wants to have a sleep over, the friend can come to my house.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:58 PM
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Is she actively preaching to women telling them what they should do and be? Or is just cooking and having fun and women are mad that men like her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:52 PM
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They aren't shaming women's preferences. They are calling out how women shame men's preferences. Women shame men for rejecting fat women but think it's ok for them to reject short men. Men are pointing out the fact that the women are rejecting men for something that the man has no control over. Men are rejecting women for something that women DO have control over. The point is that men want women to STOP shaming them for rejecting fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/24 09:35 PM
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I'm too paranoid. I'd always feel like the woman was only with me for my money. I feel like I'd only be able to have a relationship with a woman who I dated or was friends with before I became rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:29 AM
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No. I want people to have the freedom to be what they want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:06 PM
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I don't want a woman that I have to lie to about something that big.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:34 AM
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I don't like the idea of saying people are obligated to have children. So my gut reaction is NO. At the same time, we do have to keep the human race going. I don't want us to die out. There are more than enough women having kids of their own free will that we'd never have to force any to. I can't imagine a time ever coming where humans are an endangered species. I guess in that highly unlikely scenario, I could understand some level of obligation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 11:21 AM
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That's part of it. But there are other questions to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 04:32 PM
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That's not the correct response. That's the woman response.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 10:02 AM
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Why is fast food included? No job prospects. Does that mean she can't even get a minimum wage job? Not even cashier at a dollar store? Did this woman even finish high school? Is she willing and able to at least do basic housework? Like vacuum once a day and wash the dishes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 09:29 PM
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laundry once a week, dishes once or twice, garbage once or twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/24 12:37 AM
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I'm unemployed right now so I can't afford to date any woman. But the answer the question, I'm not looking for a broke woman but it's also NOT a deal breaker. If she has other qualities that I like, I won't disqualify her for being broke and jobless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 10:17 PM
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If she's totally fine with me sleeping with other women and she won't sleep with any other guy, then yes. I wouldn't do it much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:38 PM
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limit the number of people that you can message each week. Like only 2 per week. You can message those 2 people as much as you want. But only 2. Women get fewer messages so they can respond to them all. It also encourages women to message men first. Men can take their time and write better messages and they know they'll get a response since women aren't getting as many messages. It forces people to be more picky and realistic. The major flaw in this plan, is that a LOT of egos are gonna get brui…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:35 PM
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If I have sex with other women, is she going to have sex with other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:14 PM
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Bring back recess. When did recess go away? I worked at a elementary school last year and we had recess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:28 PM
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Neither side really addressed men's issues. Democrats did nothing but try to shame men into voting for them. Republicans just put on a macho act. Trump was at UFC shows, and did podcasts with pro wrestlers and Joe Rogan, and the podcast bros. But the GOP never talked about any specific policy to help men. Neither party actually cares about men. But one at least pretended to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:26 PM
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The quote came from a comedian. Why people think comedians are good sources of dating advice is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 08:15 PM
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I'm sure there are also men who think no women want them when they don't want the women who do. But this thread is about women. I stand by my statement. There are very few invisible women. They are just not getting attention from the men that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 12:00 AM
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Hold our own sex accountable. Call them out when they are being wrong towards the opposite. Not looking at things in terms of who has it worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/24 11:46 PM
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So. She wasn't invisible. She just liked a guy who liked someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 10:54 PM
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In your 40k example, did the woman ever tell the guy that she was interested in him. The women who partake in geek hobbies aren't invisible to those men. The men aren't making a move because they don't want to scare the woman away by coming off as creepy. I think there are very few truly invisible women. Most of the time it's "Invisible to the men that I want".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:34 PM
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So, in this example, what would you say to the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:16 PM
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Can you give an example to illustrate the difference between empathy and coddling?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 08:58 PM
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I think the guy should leave this woman. If she wanted to marry HIM, she'd have said yes. Don't marry a woman who doesn't want to marry you. As for holidays and events, it depends on the holiday. Men are more attentive when it comes to something like a 4th of July barbecue. Women are more attentive to things like Christmas. I'm attentive when it comes to Thanksgiving.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 03:19 PM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:07 AM
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So let them keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:03 AM
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Dating is exhausting for everyone. There is no group for whom dating is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 01:14 AM
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Assuming there is a rigorous vetting process to make sure no is wrongly put on the list, I'd be all for it. I think it would be fun to see how many men on the list still get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:59 AM
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The solution is to let those women try and fail. If they realize that they don't want the men that they can get, they'll either stay single, or self improve in order to get the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:35 AM
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It's cheaper to keep her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 12:31 AM
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It's simple. Attractive men don't have to. They can meet women through their social circle, at clubs and parties and on dating apps. An attractive man doesn't need to go to a singles event to meet women. Unattractive men don't go because they know they aren't gonna get any dates. A singles event is just them getting rejected or ignored by several women in a short amount of time. Why waste the time and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 07:52 PM
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This is just a clip so maybe she talks about it in the full version, but what she leaves out is that you have to meet the standards of the men who meet your higher standards. Also, they have to hold ALL men to those standards. Even the ones they find attractive. Women tend to lower their standards and break their own rules for men that they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 01:32 AM
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No. It's much harder for a man to BE all of the things listed than it is for a woman to see if a man is all of those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 06:50 PM
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He doesn't have to be conservative. Plenty of liberal men are traditional husbands. Atheists can be traditional as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 03:27 PM
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But how many women are actually having sex on a first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:51 PM
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But dating is how a woman gets to know a man in order to see IF she wants to commit to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 06:00 PM
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The reason men don't just say "I only want sex" from the get go is because the overwhelming majority wouldn't get it. Most women don't want sex without commitment and most men aren't attractive enough to get sex without commitment from the women who do want casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:55 AM
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All it tells us is that men are more willing to use a dating site than women are. We can all make up whatever reason we want. We'd have to do surveys of tens of millions of people worldwide asking them why they do or don't use the sites.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 09:35 AM
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It's the same as saying, "Actions speak louder than words". Is that misogynistic? Also, this same thinking applies to men. I've seen lots of women point out that men will say that want a woman with a natural body or a woman who is modest. Yet the half naked woman with fake tits and ass, posts a pic on instagram and it gets thousands of likes. Those women who say that, are right to say that. A LOT of men date women who are the opposite of what they claim to want. To address you last sentence, wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 08:59 AM
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The OP says the goal is to sleep with as many women as possible in a month without going to a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/24 12:29 AM
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I'm not sure how this is the response to my comment. I never said Trump was a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 11:59 PM
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Why is all the discussion about men when 44% of women voted for Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:14 PM
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Even Trump doesn't have enough support to get a constitutional amendment needed to remove term limits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 09:12 PM
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I don't think the Democrats will change anything. They'll tell themselves that Trump was an anomaly. Since they never have to run against him again, they don't need to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 06:46 PM
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How are young men dropping out of the workforce? How do they pay their bills and buy food and stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:49 PM
2

So what would those women do if a black woman ran as a republican?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:52 PM
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There are a lot of conservative women who vote republican. A 4B movement does nothing to address them. They aren't going to participate and they will continue to date, fuck, and marry conservative men. The only men who will be getting women are conservative men. How do women expect to change men when they can't even change other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:32 PM
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Yes and it won't be hard. There are plenty of liberal and conservative people of every age group to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 03:31 PM
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There should never be laws telling consenting adults who they can and can't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:38 PM
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So you're just ignoring the millions of WOMEN who voted for Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:37 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 02:47 PM
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I agree. But you can still do the math in your area. If you are in DC or LA then wanting a man who makes six figures is possible. If you're from the VERY small town in Mississippi where I grew up, it's totally delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 10:37 PM
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The math may be different in your neck of the woods. That is for sure a possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 05:58 PM
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I consider unrealistic standards to fall into two categories. Math. How many of this man even exists. If you standards result in a man that is less than 1% of the population, it's unrealistic because the chances of you finding that man and him being single and him wanting to be with you are slim to nil. You don't meet the standards of the people who meet your standards. As for unfair, if they are just selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 03:59 PM
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You gotta narrow down my number more. If I'm a 2, I don't want a 1. But if I'm a 7, then a 5 would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 10:58 PM
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If she's my ideal woman, then her ex-doesn't matter. There's a reason they aren't together anymore. Either she doesn't want him or he doesn't want her. Either way, I got nothing to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 09:27 PM
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I don't get what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 01:30 PM
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Were they single too? If they were, why didn't you want to date them even though you were attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 09:12 AM
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Because there is no advantage to dating a single mom over a woman without kids. But in general, they don't want the extra responsibility that comes with dating a mom. If the relationship progresses, then at some point, you will have to accept a level of responsibility for those kids. Especially if they are young. It costs more to date a single mom because many will expect the man to pay for a babysitter while they go out. You'll have to deal with the kids dad and his family which may or may not …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:55 AM
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Based on the definitions give, I don't want to be either of these women. But if I have to choose, it really depends on what kind of husband I get if I go with tradwife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:46 AM
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Those women who didn't want to be trad wives fought for the right to be a trad wife IF YOU WANT TO BE.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 08:44 AM
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I think it depends on the activity. Some activities I'd classify as "single behavior". I think it's fair to say, "Don't do single things when you're in a relationship". I think there would be a lot of debate over what is and isn't a "single behavior".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 11:58 PM
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I haven't seen any article like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:39 AM
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It's no different from any other candidate. Once you get past all the political BS, the reason you vote for a candidate is because you want to live in the America that you think they will create.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 09:35 AM
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Democrats have to learn how to court male voters. Their message to men has to be more than, "Think of the women in your life".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 08:27 AM
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I can't afford a kid right now. So, child free.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 11:55 PM
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The overwhelming majority of women want men who are on their level or higher. I only have a BA. The overwhelming majority of women with a PHD aren't going to give me the time of day. She's looking for a man with a PHD. The overwhelming majority of women are looking for men who make more than them. The overwhelming majority of women want men who are taller, more ambitious and more accomplished than she is. Try flipping this question around and asking it to women. Why don't seek out men who are le…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 10:57 PM
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HOW would you do this? How much would it cost? Where does the money come from? Whether this idea would work or not doesn't matter. How would you implement this plan?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 04:40 PM
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Another con to "Male self improvement" is that if too many men improve, the improvement becomes the norm. Therefore it will be seen by women as "the bare minimum". Ex. If every guy was at least six feet tall, six feet would be considered short. Then you'd see a bunch of women saying, "I want a guy who is six foot six". Why no mention of female improvement. Women should improve themselves in order to get the guy who meets their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:59 AM
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Simple. Hypergamy states that women want the best guys. If lots of other women want a guy, he must be one of the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/24 11:46 AM
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But how many of those options does she actually want?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:31 PM
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She cheats, I'm gone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 11:55 AM
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If she's super desirable to all men, then the top guy would marry her.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:32 AM
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I think most men would spend a year or two dating as many woman as he wanted. Then find a woman that he really liked and settle down with her. I think most women would just go for the top guy right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:07 AM
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Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 11:49 PM
1

Can someone explain the subway thing for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 06:49 PM
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2 isn't really a GF. What you describe isn't a relationship. That's just having a fuck buddy. Do I get to have sex with Option 1?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 11:33 AM
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That's my point. Women aren't a monolith. That's why it doesn't work on a large scale. Woman can dictate men's behavior by who they sleep with, IF enough of them get on the same page. I think it does happen in smaller groups. Like if the majority of women in a specific area go for a similar type of guy, you'll see men in that area imitating that type of guy. But it also works on an individual level. If a man's behavior results in his wife or GF having sex with him, he'll repeat the behavior. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:22 PM
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This idea implies that if men could get pregnant, then all men would be pro choice. If this is the case, then why aren't all women pro choice. Since women get pregnant and there are lots of pro life women, why do you think there wouldn't be pro life men if men could also get pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:14 PM
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I'll start with the last thing you mentioned. The reason a sex strike wouldn't work is because women aren't a monolith. There is no issue that all women agree on enough to do one. It would be like if women did a sex strike for abortion rights. It would fail because there are a LOT of pro life women. Those women wouldn't participate. They would continue to fuck their pro life boyfriends and husbands. So, only pro choice men would be sexless. If there was an issue that the overwhelming majority of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:01 PM
2

I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:00 PM
2

Unless the women is mistreating him because he makes less.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 04:34 PM
3

I'd just expect them to go somewhere fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:41 PM
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No. I've never heard a man say, "I hate sluts" in my entire 39 years on this Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:29 PM
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Because society does. Men are forced to equate their worth to their income because nearly everyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 02:27 PM
5

I get that. It's like, "What's a rocket scientist doing hanging out in this place"?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:37 PM
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I was listening to an interview yesterday and the person brought up research on this topic. He said that the research shows that it's only an issue for men if he was earning more when they got together. But in couples where the woman earned more when they met, the men never have a problem with it. To answer the question, I would tell a woman that I guy simple needs reassurance that the relationship is secure. The reason this is an issue for men is because they fear that the woman won't want him …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 01:36 PM
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The Same Love Story: Old People vs. Young People https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz7S4tCQhvo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/24 04:32 PM
1

If you know you've been settled for, that gives you some power in the relationship. You know your partner can't do any better so they have to keep you satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 10:15 AM
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They want both people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:34 PM
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Realistic - anything that sends the message, "You aren't my first choice. I'm only with you because I can't be with the man that I really want". Insane - I'm a serial killer and I've framed you for all of the murders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:13 PM
1

How would anyone even do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 01:10 PM
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I think that most men wouldn't be able to attract those younger women. But I do think that a large percentage of men would date younger if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 07:22 PM
5

So, is your belief is that a boss should not face any legal consequences for telling an employee, "Suck my dick or you're fired"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 01:08 PM
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Your example isn't an ultimatum. It's a threat. It's literally, "I will do something bad to you if you don't have sex with me". The difference in the boss making the threat and the employee making the offer is that when the boss does it, it is using power to make someone have sex with you against their will. The employee is NOT a willing participant. When the employee does it, it is using sex to avoid the consequences of your own actions. In this scenario, the employee is a willing participant. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/24 12:59 PM
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It's gonna be followed by something that is ONLY attractive in a man that you already find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 12:51 AM
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OP made the rules, not me. But I agree that it's highly unlikely that you would ever find someone like that in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:55 AM
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So. I like her. She's nice to me and will fuck me whenever I want. Won't fuck any other guy. I'll take her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:58 AM
2

A woman that I like, who is nice to me and will have sex whenever I want. Sounds like a good deal. Is she banging other dudes too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 12:20 AM
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I know that I wouldn't but I can't answer for other people. I absolutely think there are men and women who would do it if they knew they'd get away with it. But I think that's true for every crime. Not just rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 11:05 AM
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I don't have any interest in the humiliation stuff. If she wanted a threesome, that's one thing but her just wanting to watch is odd to me. I'd probably wonder if it's a setup. Like she's trying to get me to fuck another woman so she can fuck another guy and I can't get mad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:18 AM
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That means you are bad at noticing red flags. Another person could meet your friends and find multiple red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:56 AM
1

One example doesn't negate something. This only shows that people can be manipulated. Pick better men still applies. This example just shows that we need to do more to teach women how to tell the difference between a good man and a man who is pretending to be good. Most of the time when men say, "Pick better men" it's a case where the guys awfulness was glaringly obvious. No advice will ever be perfect though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 09:54 AM
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Just be clear and honest. We're getting together to watch the game. Would you like to join us? Just so you know, it's guys only. No girlfriends or wives allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 10:24 PM
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But if all I'm giving is meaningless, cliche responses, it doesn't need to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 09:25 AM
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It's not to high. It's just that most guys your age aren't gonna want to wait until marriage for sex. You can meet men at church. That's your best bet. If you're in college, check out campus religious organizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:42 PM
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They do it for the same reason that women do, the person who loved them wasn't the person they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:00 PM
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Attractive men don't need to go to singles events to get women. They can use apps, or just meet women at clubs or parties. A singles even is an investment in time and money that they just don't need to make. Unattractive men know they aren't going to get any dates. So, why bother wasting time and money?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 01:15 PM
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Keep in mind that hypergamy is also about commitment. It's about getting the kind of relationship that the woman wants. Dating you could be her being hypergamous because you're the best guy that she can get to give her the kind of relationship that she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:31 PM
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It's a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 04:43 PM
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They want a woman who makes ALL MEN wait. They don't want to be the guy who has to wait when she doesn't make other men wait. They reject the woman who makes them wait because they assume that she isn't making the other men wait. Then you have another group of men who don't want a woman who sleeps with them too quickly. If she fucks him on the first date, they assume that she fucks every guy on the first date. What you get is "I want a woman who makes me wait but I don't want to be the ONLY guy …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:30 PM
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She's not able to get and KEEP the men who are above her. Her ex may have been more successful than you, BUT she wasn't able to get what she wanted from him. Since the men above her don't want her, she's going for a hot younger guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:17 PM
1

Simple. It's easy sex and an easy relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:10 PM
1

maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:26 PM
0

Depends on what you mean by my type? If it's because I'm fat, then no. I want to lose weight. If it's because I'm black, sure. There are a ton of other black guys a woman could date if she has a fetish for black men. She chose me for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 12:49 PM
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Don't exclude women. There are plenty of crimes committed by women that could be solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:17 PM
3

I'll just pay what I owe. But it won't be much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:57 PM
6

I'm broke. She ain't getting much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 07:42 PM
2

I can get a pre-nup. besides I'm broke. She won't get much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:37 PM
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If the woman was fully on board and doing so of her own free will, I'd consider it. However, there is not a single person in my life that I trust to pick a good partner for me. I'd probably go to professional matchmaker, if those still exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:00 PM
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Even the men who don't use insulting language get bashed for saying, "I don't want a fat woman".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:29 PM
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That's more that women aren't rejecting men for having high counts. The slut vs stud thing is fair IMO for that reason. But that is more about men being praised for sleeping with lots of women. The let men cheat thing is something I disagree with. Although, I do understand the argument of, "It gives you an advantage over all the other women who want that man". I think it's better for a woman to lower her standards than share a high value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:29 PM
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Most women I see online, despise men who want low body counts even if they don't speak ill of women with high counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:18 PM
1

So you have no problem with a man saying, "I want a woman with a low body count" as long as he doesn't denigrate women with high body counts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:47 PM
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But men don't push back on a woman who says, "I want a man with a low body count". Women attack men who say, "I want a woman with a low body count".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 12:29 PM
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I don't know. I haven't read anything about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:35 PM
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Because kids are expensive. A lot of us can't afford to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:03 PM
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Studies on the wage gap show that it is mostly caused by differences in working habits and life style choices. Very little of it has to do with gender discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:49 PM
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The boys value comes from what they can/will do. Men who do nothing aren't valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:48 AM
1

That makes sense. But how many stories like that are out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:16 PM
1

That's a sport. How do you make, "People stuck on an island" into a sport?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:01 PM
1

But how would we see them if they aren't filmed? I never heard of any non-televised, "Stick people on an island" show.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:45 PM
1

You said the same thing twice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:26 PM
1

Wouldn't anything like this be considered reality TV.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:25 PM
1

Add a hard limit and mandatory paternity testing on all babies and I'll support this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:24 PM
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Bringing in refugees would only HELP American men. Most of these refugees tend to be from countries with more conservative views on gender roles. Plus, they won't have much money. American women aren't going to want these men. American men will look better by comparison. Bringing in more women means, American men have more options and American men being more stable will give them an advantage with these women. Also, these women would likely be more traditional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:13 PM
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It have to literally be MILLIONS of men doing it before it became an issue where government would need to step in. And even if that happened, what could government do that would violate the constitution? Also, if I guy is making 400k/year, he's not gonna have any trouble getting dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 08:09 PM
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What makes you think it isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:16 PM
2

So, how do you know if was set up to make the women look bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:03 PM
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IF they are making money doing OF, why get a real job?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:54 PM
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Sure. I'm not saying that the list will be 100% identical. But I think we're all mostly looking for the same thing. I think if you got hundreds or men and women to make their list, most would be a lot of the same things listed in different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 06:53 PM
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It's only two people. That wouldn't prove anything. We'd need thousands of lists to compare.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:54 PM
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How do you know that? And again, I debate the "hotness" of the women on that show.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:37 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 04:15 PM
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I don't understand this post. I'm saying that if you ask 10,000 men to make their "ideal woman" list. Most lists will be mostly the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:17 PM
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I think we have different definitions of "hot". Why would they script the women to fail. I assume the show would get more viewership if they scripted the men to fail? Did Bear say the women would be successful or did he specifically say, "more successful than the men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 03:16 PM
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Most men and women are looking for mostly the same things. You ask 10,000 women to make their "Ideal man" list. Most of the lists will be mostly the same. Most men's list will mostly be the same things.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:55 PM
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I think you need to give some reasons WHY you think they'd have been more successful than the men. If you feel the summaries are biased against the women, how about making your own cut that shows them in a better light.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:32 PM
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What's your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 02:11 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:24 PM
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What is?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:22 PM
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Sure. Not a waitress. But they are still fine with their wives not making any money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:06 PM
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I'm sure that happens. But you're only hearing about the ones who regret it. The housewives with happy husbands aren't making reddit posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 12:05 PM
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It never did. The things I like are either sausage parties or the few women there are much to old for me. I mean women close to my mom's age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:51 AM
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We probably need to just look at rich dudes. There are rich guys with housewives. There are rich guys with really successful women. We can find many examples of both. Rich pro athletes rarely marry female athletes. While rich movie stars usually marry female movie stars.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:50 AM
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You have to take into account that most can't afford to have a housewife. I think we need to ask, "How many of men who can afford to not care, do care"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:40 AM
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While I understand where you're coming from, I want to point out that just because a man doesn't care about degrees, doesn't mean he only cares about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 07:58 AM
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I agree. But being forced to care about something is different from caring. Like I know most women care about how much a man makes because even when women make a lot of money, most want a guy who makes as much. So, even when they don't have to care, a lot of women care.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 04:33 PM
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I'm pretty sure the implication is that she's a housewife. I think that's what women are saying when they make this statement about conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:49 PM
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I think a lot of it depends on how much the guy makes. I care about how much a woman makes because I can't afford a housewife. If I was making 100k or more, I wouldn't care if she wanted to stay home. I think there are a lot of men who wouldn't care if their wife worked or not if HE made enough to comfortably support the family. One of the most common lines that women use towards republicans is "They want us in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant". If you're in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:29 PM
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Not everyone can afford to go to school. Not everyone has the grades. The point is, if OF shut down today, all those girls wouldn't end up on the street. They'd go out and get regular jobs. They might be low paying and dead end jobs. But they'd get jobs. They could be cooks in a diner or janitors or other low skilled jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:21 PM
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I understand. But I'd argue there are much better forms of internal value than things like degrees.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:20 PM
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I agree. I think we'd have longer lasting marriages if they were harder to get into. If I were in charge, I'd pass a lot of laws that force people to think it through more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:18 PM
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That's great. Not sure what it has to do with my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:09 PM
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But there are others ways to learn about their interests and skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:53 PM
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Not caring and being intimidated are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:42 PM
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Why is internal better? A guy could also think, "Anyone will do as long as she has a degree".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:41 PM
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This question should be, "Why did THIS GUY get mad that I accepted his no"? Nobody can answer for him specifically. If I had to guess, he realized that he didn't have as many options as he thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:39 PM
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If you're a 40 year old OF girl then you most likely had a real job before doing OF. OF hasn't been around that long.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:37 PM
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Yes. They'll go to school and eventually get real jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:34 PM
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Then you get new skills. You go to school. You learn things. You get a real job and build up your resume just like everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:22 PM
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They don't have to be millionaires. They can go to school and get real jobs just like everyone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:22 PM
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And those women would just get real jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:13 PM
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I don't buy the homeless thing. Women would just get jobs and roommates.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:07 AM
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Just because something doesn't impress women doesn't mean it wasn't done to impress women. Maybe they THOUGHT it would impress women. The same way some women think their money and degrees will attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:04 AM
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Why would women be dirt poor? Wouldn't they just get jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:56 AM
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It's usually women pushing for the relationship sooner. It's also usually women initiating the "what are we" conversation. Of course men want relationships too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:55 AM
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It is logically possible for both of these things to be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:43 AM
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Not sure it would be equitable. Women tend to want relationships a lot more than men. Take sex off the table and women would have to please men more than men would have to please women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:55 AM
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I agree. I think we'd have longer lasting marriages if they were harder to get into. If I were in charge, I'd pass a lot of laws that force people to think it through more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:52 AM
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Women wouldn't be able to use sex to get what they want from men. Things like with holding sex as a punishment or just simp shit like OF. It would also mean less men doing things they don't want to do in order to get laid. Men would have higher standards. Men wouldn't lower their standards in order to get laid. Although that one would benefit women IMO. In general, women would have to work harder to get a man than they do now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:49 AM
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More of men getting what they want and/or less of women getting what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:23 AM
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How low are we talking? I think it would give men more power in the dating world. It would be harder for women to control men. The most powerful tool that women have in the dating world is the fact that men want to fuck women more than women want to fuck men. There would be a population decline but I doubt it would be an amount that would cause problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:59 PM
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The dumbest one I ever heard was a woman saying she imagined the guy chasing after a bus. But there was no bus she just imagined it. Another was him ordering some pasta at a restaurant. He didn't eat all of it and took the rest in a to go box. She said she just imagined sitting all alone eating his cold leftover pasta.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:23 PM
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Because the rich men have multiple wives and girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:31 AM
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They didn't have as many options so they had to be satisfied with a good guy who didn't check every box on her ideal man list. Now, being a good man isn't enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 12:37 PM
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The question was rhetorical. But thanks anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:14 PM
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How come every time a woman on the internet says "a real man" it's something that involves accepting anything a woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:33 PM
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That's only if her on camera act is how she is in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:49 PM
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Pick mes want the same men that non-pick mes do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:49 PM
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fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:34 PM
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A woman who hates women. That's not much to go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 01:34 PM
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OP give me your definition of a Pick Me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:35 PM
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Women stab people too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:34 PM
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I think your text box proves that they aren't afraid of competition. Many of the immigrants will be women. Probably mostly women depending on where they are coming from. Foreign men won't be competition since most other countries tend to be more conservative when it comes to gender roles. We can't assume that the American women will even want those men. There probably aren't going to be refugees from the countries where women have as much or more freedom than they do in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 12:22 PM
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That's a tough one. The things I personally look for in a woman are pretty abundant. I'd put "doesn't have kids" on the list depending on age. But, I don't think finding a woman who doesn't have kids is gonna be that hard. Maybe if you're older. "in good shape" would be on a lot of guy's list. Again, I don't think that's hard to find. I think the hardest one for men to find would be "shares his interest" especially if he's into nerd hobby or "guy stuff" like sports and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:36 PM
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I've never once heard of a guy being angry that women want him after improving himself. Show me an example of this, please. As for the question, "women aren't entitled to relationships" came from women complaining about men not sticking around after sex. Since women were pointing that men aren't entitled to sex, men started pointing out that women aren't entitled to relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 08:10 PM
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When we talk about a "High Value Man", it's an issue of supply and demand. Those men are considered "high value" because they possess many of the qualities that women want in a man and they are in short supply. If you're the 6-6-6 guy, you're high value because only 15% of men are 6ft and less than 20% are six figures. If a man is both of these things, he's less than 10% of the male population. Then take out the ones who are already married or gay and the pool is even smaller. So, if you're usin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:17 PM
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I think the biggest block to polygamy is the fact that women have egos too. Most women would not be able to knowingly share their man. When push comes to shove, most women would rather have a good dude who doesn't check every box all to herself than share the guy who checks every box. If the choice is, have a nice, decent, average Joe who makes 50k a year all to herself, or share a millionaire with 3 or 4 other women, most women will choose average Joe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 12:17 PM
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When women are henpecked, we don't call it henpecked. We call it having a "controlling" husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:02 PM
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Not everybody finds the "someone" who is for them. Not everybody wants the "someone" who is for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 08:00 PM
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fair point. But women have to prove themselves to the men that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:16 PM
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Just about every job wants you to show that you can do the job before they hire you. That's why they look at your work experience. Both men and women have to prove themselves. Women have to prove themselves to men. Especially men that other women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:55 PM
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What does a woman do if the men that she wants, only want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:52 PM
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Even if you were right and men did admit that, you'd still have to deal with the issue of attraction. What happens when you have a lot of women who are only attracted to the men who only want sex? We see that happen a lot in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 08:37 PM
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I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:10 PM
10

An insult being an accident doesn't stop you from feeling insulted. I'm sure lots of people here have been accidentally insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:17 PM
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I think it's totally fair to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:15 PM
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That's how she meant it. That's not how he took it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:44 PM
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I get that. The result of that is that the FWB guy "pays a lower price" for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:48 AM
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It's not just about getting sex. It's about what you have to do in order to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:46 AM
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The context is important. I assume you're talking about the viral post. The problem is the "I wouldn't hookup with you or be FWB with you" part that makes it feel insulting. It comes off as, "You aren't attractive enough to get no strings attached sex. You only get to fuck me if you take responsibility for me and spend money on me".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 11:07 AM
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The issue is that the casual guy usually gets the woman faster and easier. He doesn't have to take her on dates and spend as much money on her. He also doesn't have the same responsibilities that a boyfriend or husband has. A lot of men would prefer to be FWB benefits because he "pays a lower price" for sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:57 AM
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For men, being serious comes with a lot of responsibility. Being a husband comes with a lot of responsibility. A man has to keep his wife safe. If a nut job comes in with a gun, a man puts his wife behind him. If the ship is going down, a man puts his wife on the lifeboat if there isn't room for both of them. So to a man, it can come off as, "You're not hot enough to get sex without responsibility". I can see how it would make a man feel like she isn't as attracted to him as those guys that she …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 10:54 AM
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That's different for each man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:47 PM
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You said women PRETEND to be interested. That's means they really aren't interested. If they were, it wouldn't be pretending.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:46 PM
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Men do care about thing other than sex in a woman. They just don't care about the things that you want them to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:56 PM
8

So women don't care about men's hobbies either.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:55 PM
0

The only person who could know for sure is her and she is dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:35 PM
2

Sometimes vibes need to be taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:32 AM
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They aren't easier. They are just less frequent. That's the tradeoff. Inside chores are easier but have to be done more frequently. Outside chores are harder but have to be done less frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:10 AM
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If it were easy for most men to get women, this subreddit wouldn't exist. There would be no purple pill because there would be no red pill. There would be no dating advice for men. There would be no pick up artists. There would be no dating podcasts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 06:16 PM
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Wasn't there a song about this in the early 2000s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:49 PM
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Money still matters but not as much. You can't be broke. We aren't seeing a huge rise in house-husbands. But women make their own money now so they don't have to place as much value on it. However, some place even MORE value on money because they want a financial equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:28 AM
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The term "pick-me" seems to have lost meaning. It's pretty used on any woman who ever disagrees with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:25 AM
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The woman in the clip isn't acknowledging unattractive men as men. If you're unattractive and a gentlemen, you end up as "just a friend".
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 09:43 AM
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In terms of a relationship, I'd guess it's the ability to get your partner to do what you want them to do and resist doing what they want you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:05 PM
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Introverted suggests you are at home a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:04 PM
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How are we defining power in terms of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:31 PM
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What about the personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:19 PM
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I'm assuming that you aren't ugly. I'm also assuming that you don't have a horrible personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 09:11 AM
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I find that hard to believe. Are you sure it isn't just that you don't want the men who want a relationship with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:20 AM
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It just seems like the woman wants an ego boost. I've never once in my entire life hearing of a woman breaking up with a man but then changing her mind because he "fought for her". I'd like to read some stories from women that go, "I told him it was over. But he wouldn't accept it. When I saw how hard he was willing to fight for our relationship, I knew I was making a mistake and had to stay with him".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 01:58 PM
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I strongly disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:58 AM
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Going with this analogy, the man is the employee. In dating, the man has to convince the woman to date him. The woman has to convince the man to stay. In this analogy, the man has to convince the woman to hire him. BUT once he's proven himself to be a good employee, the woman has to convince him to stay on the job instead of looking at other open positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 10:05 AM
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It's power to get sex. It's not the power to get a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:38 PM
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That's not what I asked you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 08:07 PM
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It seems like you made this post just to insult Pearl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 11:18 AM
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I think there needs to be more discussion on what responsibility falls onto women. I've literally heard multiple women say, "No doesn't always mean No". Those women need to be called out. I believe in NO MEANS NO. The problem is, that we also need to be taught "Only say NO if you mean NO. Only say YES if you mean YES". I think that all men, for their own safety, should consider any NO a NO. No woman is worth risking your freedom and reputation. If she's the kind of woman who says NO when she mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:39 AM
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Am I 100% guaranteed to die if I don't drink the water?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:34 AM
2

The problem with these statements is, who decides what is enthusiastic? Are we teaching women what enthusiastic consent looks like? Can enthusiasm be faked? If so, then we have the possibility of "I pretended to be enthusiastic out of fear".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 10:31 AM
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Some men do want a submissive woman. Nothing wrong with that. Some women like a submissive man. Nothing wrong with that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 03:29 PM
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Pearl isn't a pick me. She isn't trying to get a husband. She's doing this to make money. She plays a character and gets paid to do it. I don't Pearl would have any problem finding a decent guy to marry. But right now, she's just making her money. She's no different than Derrick Jaxn. Derrick made his money by telling women what they wanted to hear. Pearl makes her money by telling men what they want to hear. Also, Pick Me seems to just be a term for any woman who ever agrees with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:51 PM
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No. This doesn't happen. A man in this scenario would just ignore the women who rejected him back then. I guess if she asks him out in person, he'd reject her. But he wouldn't go seeking her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:48 PM
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Why so much concern about men going where they are wanted? Why should anyone change to attract people when there are other people who like you just the way you are? Apply this logic to anything else? Let's say a fat woman gets hit on by some men but not by others. Would you tell her to lose weight to get the men who don't like fat women OR tell her to date the men who like fat women? Do you think that passport bros would choose American women if they could have any woman they wanted? If all wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:45 PM
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I wouldn't call this entitlement. Feeling bad over rejection isn't entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:37 PM
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A man who loves you isn't gonna stop loving you just because you turn 40. As long as a woman chooses a good man to marry, she'll be fine. Also, just because men might prefer a younger woman for sex, doesn't mean he wants to be married to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:27 AM
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Continue to avoid those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:00 PM
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Good point. I just wonder if they have the order wrong. Maybe it's "I don't get women because I'm hostile towards them" and not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:58 PM
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If you love someone and they are truly your first choice, then you didn't settle even if you could do "better" by some metrics. A woman might choose the man who treats her better and has more in common over the man who makes more money. Some people will see that and think, "She could do better". But different people will have different opinions of what "better" is. For me, I'll call it settling is that person isn't your first choice. If you don't truly love them. If you're with them because you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:40 PM
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It's a weird guy version of a shit test. I don't get it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:33 PM
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They want the women that no other man has been able to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:26 PM
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But the logic doesn't pan out. If this is true then banging all men who hate women would end misogyny. I'll bet my soul that this solution would NOT work. Also, there are plenty of men who do have success with women and still have negative opinions of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:23 PM
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I disagree. If you told women that they could only get dates and sex if they made the first move, plenty would do so. They don't pursue because they know they don't have to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:09 PM
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Women would just pursue more. There would be less sex and a population decline though. But not extinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 07:02 PM
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Obsession is a strong word. Also, nobody is talking about wanting everyone to desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:18 PM
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Yes. People get to have a preference. But preferences are an indirect form of shaming. It's still sending the message that this thing makes you undateable. It's not a bad thing. It's just a thing that exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 05:02 PM
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The idea is that the only men who don't worship women are men who can't get one. Any guy who criticizes women or says anything negative about women are men who don't get laid. But they don't really believe that. If they didn't they just fuck every misogynist they encountered.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:19 PM
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How are we defining shaming? Just because something isn't overt doesn't mean it doesn't send the same message. Women saying, "I wouldn't date a virgin" or "I prefer a man with experience" is still sending the message that something is wrong with a man who hasn't had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:17 PM
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Only the leverage of sex. Women would still be able to get men in other ways. They'd just have to try harder to show the man how his life is better with her in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:15 PM
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I'm sure people would still have sex. I'm not erasing the sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:11 PM
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I think most women would still be able to get relationships. They'd just have to cater to men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:26 PM
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Fair point. Different people have different definitions of "settle". I'm using it in terms of someone who doesn't check every box on your ideal partner list.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:25 PM
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But he might find other ways to keep his sex drive under control. It's still there but he's able to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:05 PM
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The first one is totally wrong. Men have standards. Even incels can't point to women that they would never have sex with. We won't fuck anything that moves. Finding a good man isn't hard. Finding a good man who also checks all of your boxes is. Good men are everywhere. But a lot of those good men don't have what the woman finds attractive. Most men aren't expecting women to look like the women in media. It would be great if you could get one who does. Just like every woman would love to have Mr.…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:01 PM
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I think all men settle because a woman who checks all of his boxes is too good for him and will date a guy who is better than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:21 PM
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Fair point. But why do you assume the reason a guy goes younger is because older women don't want them? There could be other reasons that he prefers a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:20 PM
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It doesn't have to be a lower sex drive. Whatever that man needs in order to be content single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:07 AM
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I think there are plenty of women who are happy with an average guy. Plenty of average joes marry average women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 03:49 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:21 AM
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What does that have to do with this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:13 AM
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I meant if it started today.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:39 PM
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I support this. Because then men will only spend money on women after they've had sex with them. So you only spend money on the women who like you enough to fuck you for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:15 PM
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But do you think that man would pick the younger women if he could get the older woman? I'm willing to bet that a lot of men would date younger women even if they had women their own age chasing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:09 PM
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Why do you think he dates younger women because he cant' get women his age? Maybe he just prefers younger women. If that man could have any woman he wanted, do you think he'd pick a woman his age or a younger woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:05 PM
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What if you aren't attracted to the people who like you but are attracted to the people who don't like you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:59 PM
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If she's having sex with other men then he's a cuck. But some guys are into that. It's really not my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:47 AM
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No amount of personality makes a 20 year old person fall in love with a 60 year old person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:59 PM
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In the highly unlikely event, I married a woman 40 years younger than me, then I know she's only with me for the money. I knew from the start that this wasn't a marriage of love. I had to be OK with that before I married her. But if I had deluded myself into thinking she really loved me, I guess this would be a bruise to the ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:58 PM
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I tell her that I don't want a relationship and say goodbye. She's made it clear that she would be hurt if she is used for sex. I make the choice of whether to hurt her or not. Also, I'm not a liar. I think less of men who lie about wanting a relationship in order to get sex. His attractiveness doesn't matter. He's not gonna die if he doesn't sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:31 PM
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Easier said than done. Very few people can be truly happy without any sex or romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:25 PM
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By that logic, you should be wary of literally everyone. Every demographic has good and bad people. Don't quote dumb people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:12 PM
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What you're describing isn't hypergamy. Hypergamy is defined as want to partner with someone of a higher socioeconomic status. Sure, you have to bring something to her life. But plenty of women date and sleep with broke bums who lay up on their couch all day. That's not hypergamy but that guy is bringing something to her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:54 PM
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This woman is just an asshole. But she's just ONE woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:30 PM
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How is having sex with him a punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:54 PM
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Men are more romantic because they have to be. Women want that stuff. Men don't. So, women don't have to be romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:15 PM
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So, stay with a man who won't commit and keep sleeping with him. Why this as opposed to just breaking up with him and moving on with your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:14 PM
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The accept that it's all you're getting and that commitment is less important than sex. OR, don't be a slave to your libido and walk away. Maybe the guy who wants to commit isn't as good in bed. Sometimes, you have to pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:08 PM
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Getting the relationship is easy once you've gotten the sex. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:04 PM
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So, you're saying the it's easy for a man to get a relationship but hard for a man to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 11:54 AM
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I'm not sure we're talking about the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:29 AM
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How are you defining better?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:45 AM
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Based on your description, I'd argue the man is the prize. The woman found a man to fully financially provide for her so she doesn't have to work. He's the prize. He can find another beautiful woman a lot easier than she can find another man to fully provide for her financially. In that scenario, she is the one who is easier to replace. Therefore, HE is the prize. In general, I don't think the man or woman is the prize. I think that in some relationships it's the man. In others it's the woman. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:39 AM
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I've seen this woman. She also claims that multiple millionaires have proposed to her and she has turned them all down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:26 AM
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It's more like. Give the person a chance. If you get to know them, you might find something about them that does attract you. Nobody is saying, "Marry people you don't want".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:23 AM
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Sure. But some would get approached by women on their level that they may have never approached. Plus, it would just be fewer women complaining, which is always a plus.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:21 AM
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Peasant doesn't seem like the right word. You can have a well to do man who isn't a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:41 AM
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Harems won't happen. Women have egos too. The overwhelming majority of women won't be able to knowingly share a man. That's why they created things like, "Are We Dating the Same Guy". They will lower their standards in order to have a man all to themselves before they knowingly share a top tier men. Ask any woman if she'd rather have a guy who makes 50k and is faithful or a guy making 200k who cheats on her. Most will choose the 50k faithful guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:10 PM
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What are the appropriate venues?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:06 PM
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I'd say I mostly agree with these. I think of it in terms of, "If they could push a magic button". If straight women could push a magic button to have a tall, handsome, rich man who is kind and faithful to her, I think the overwhelming majority would push the button. If women could push a magic button to make the man she is with taller, better looking, or wealthier while not losing faithfulness, I think most women would. However, I don't think that most women are constantly actively looking for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:23 AM
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These are reasonable if you want to date a woman with kids. These are also all good reasons to not date women with kids. It's more expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:18 AM
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Is it "good" or "good and attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:54 PM
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The reason I think it's mainly for male attention is that I never see lesbians do it. The one group of women who truly never give a shit what men think, never dress in revealing clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:54 PM
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Wow. I am a total slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:49 PM
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I assume you mean in terms of a long term serious relationship and possibly marriage. If the person is stubborn and refuses to ever even attempt to change then they would all be deal breakers except number one. I'm a big fat guy myself so I can't really complain. Unless she's so morbidly obese that she's gonna die soon if she doesn't make a change. I could live with 2. At least she has a full time job. As long as we live within our means, we would be ok. I like to cook and cook better than most …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:46 PM
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I've only known this as a moped.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:49 PM
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IF you insist on being negative. "I'm no longer happy in this relationship and I want to leave". OR "I don't want to give half my money and monthly payments to the women who cheated on me". See, you can spin it many different ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:02 PM
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I'd like to hear some thoughts on this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97kA7vcfiA8
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:14 AM
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a person with high standards will have a harder time replacing you if you meet their standards. THat gives you more power in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:47 AM
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How come this female intuition can sniff out the shitty ex-boyfriends that they complain about?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 06:32 PM
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Men never said they wouldn't bang single moms. They said they wouldn't seriously date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:40 PM
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No they don't. Need sex very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:02 PM
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If you suck my dick, I don't mind if you talk shit to me afterwards. Again, if it were a woman that I had real feelings for and really wanted a relationship with, it would suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:02 PM
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People can lie about their intentions. Men will pretend to want a relationship in order to get laid. Unless women are going to remain virgins until marriage, they have to risk a guy lying in order to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:28 PM
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It would hurt if I was in love with the woman and truly wanted a life with her. But if it's just a sex thing for her, that's a pretty nice consolation prize. I think most men would be fine with getting sex without any responsibility except for when it's the one woman that they really have feelings for.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:12 PM
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Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:13 AM
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What I don't like about the "prize" debate is that it's framed as "all men" or "all women". I think both of those are wrong. I think that who the prize is, depends on the couple. In some couples the man is the prize. In some the woman is the prize.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:22 PM
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I was referring to specifically, men's interactions with women. But you got the main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:20 PM
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No chance of 2 or 4 happening. 1 is most likely because it's only natural for one person's freedom to clash with another's.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:00 PM
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None are appealing to me. Jane is a hard NO. The weed is the deal breaker on Tina. The others I could live with if they are ok with me NOT participating in their hobby. Gun to head, I'll go with Anna. We might have a little more in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:17 PM
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The main issue with "hold other men accountable" is that when it comes to our relationships with women, only women can hold men accountable. A lot of the time the men that you want held accountable are having more success with women than the men you're telling to hold them accountable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:27 PM
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Melissa. The only issue is the short hair but I'll get used to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:26 PM
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Doesn't this give hoes more power to be hoes? I agree that men need to vet women better. But making it harder for a hoe to be a hoe would decrease the amount of hoes, wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:34 PM
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You wouldn't have to. Just have their health insurance cover it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:33 PM
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"a lot of male men"? I support mandatory testing. It would save a lot of time and trouble. There is no argument against it other than, "It makes some women feel bad". But women will never truly be able to understand what it's like for a man to be duped. What I'd prefer though, is a law that states that a man cannot be made to pay child support for a child that isn't his. I think it's really fucked up that men can be forced to pay for kids even when they have a DNA test proving they aren't the fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 07:10 PM
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The men get more attention because men aren't allowed to express preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:40 PM
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The only reason those guys talk about it is because of women trashing them for not wanting to date single moms. Because the women trash them, they have to defend their preference and talk about why they don't want to date them. The same would happen if men trashed women for not dating single dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:26 PM
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Nobody is saying ALL. But there are plenty of deadbeat dads with kids by multiple women. Why aren't there women telling other women to not date men who aren't fully active in their child's life?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:21 PM
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There are multiple videos of women chastising men for not wanting to date single moms. This whole thing started because of women trashing men for not wanting to date single moms. Then it grew from there. If women stopped bashing men for not wanting single moms, men would never say a word about them again.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 02:02 PM
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I disagree. You have to be somewhat attractive to get a lot of people. If a guy has a body count of 100, that means 100 different women found him attractive enough to sleep with. Even if he had to shoot his shot with 300 women, that's still 100 women who wanted him. Every guy who takes a shot at 300 women isn't going to get 100 of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:17 AM
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I'd pick the overweight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:13 AM
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You should be talking to women about that. Why aren't women rejecting men who abandon their kids? This is a sub about dating. Men don't talk about the absent fathers because we aren't dating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:08 AM
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The problem men have with single moms is women bashing them for not wanting to date a single mom. If men bashed women for not dating single fathers, those women would also talk about all the reasons to not do it. If women would just accept men's preference for women without kids, you'd never see another post or video about single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:00 AM
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Even if the men were stay at home dads, women would still lose out because she had to take time off due to the pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:48 PM
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I'll take boss babe who don't need no man to gain 4+. I'll also take No relationship with father and Wuwu for another 2+ Then with my now ELEVEN points I'll take. A,B,F,C,G
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:41 PM
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That has nothing to do with it. It's because women take time off to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:31 PM
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I don't just mean looks. They might be the ones who aren't as funny or charismatic as you might like. They may not make as much money as you would prefer either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:12 PM
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By making ALL men wait. The ones who want a relationship will stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:09 AM
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There are tons of men who will wait and commit to a relationship first. But women aren't going for them. They tend to be the less attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 11:06 AM
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How do you know the difference between the first guy and the third guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:44 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:26 AM
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Once the kid is here, there's not much she can do. But at some point we have to put SOME amount of responsibility on women to choose better men. At least she could try to warn other women not to make the mistakes that she made. Once the kid is here, that women could look for a man to be the father to her kids and she should treat that man like an absolute king and do whatever he wants. I think more men would be open to being step dads if step dads were treated like kings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:04 AM
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The only thing that will make more good men is for good men to be chosen. Why would a guy be good if being bad is getting him everything he wants? In some cases, being a better man will make fewer women want him. Let's not ignore the fact that there are a lot of women who see a good man as boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:01 AM
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It's her fault for choosing to sleep with the loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:10 AM
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I've seen some women saying it's a red flag if he's in his 30s. But I wouldn't call that "hating on them".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:09 AM
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I'd like to see some examples of women hating on child free men. I've never seen that anywhere once.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:42 AM
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I mean specifically the responsibility of choosing a good man to sleep with in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:41 AM
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First, anyone saying it's guaranteed is lying. But there is a higher risk of it happening. Second, it's the mom's responsibility to give the child a father by choosing a good man to sleep with in the first place. Third, the logic is faulty. By that logic, since raising a child is expensive, Elon Musk should pay child support for every kid. Or like saying that homelessness is a problem so you should let a homeless person move into your home. Or telling every single mom to just marry another women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:41 AM
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Are we assuming that none of these women are cheaters? How drunk is Jessica getting? Right now I'm leaning between Jessica and May.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:44 AM
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The problem with your solution is that it takes all responsibility off of the women. What you're proposing is for women to make bad choices in men and then have some other man come in and clean up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:40 AM
1

People know how to wait. There are plenty of people who's partner began to abuse them years into the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:53 PM
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Now she's stuck with me. She can never divorce me no matter what I do and she can never have another husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:41 PM
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Agreed. But I think a lot of women would bash a man no matter how he said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:38 PM
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It seems like something women would do just for the bigger wedding and men would do just to trap women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:10 PM
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Men don't hate single moms. They hate the women who trash them for not wanting to date single moms. Since women wouldn't just accept them having that preference the topic just got more and more heated until we got where we are now. That's why you don't see the same level of discourse around women who don't want to date single fathers. Because when women say, "I don't date men with kids", men don't criticize them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:08 PM
1

I don't see how this benefits men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:02 PM
1

Men are criticized for having standards periods. It doesn't matter if they are high or low.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:04 AM
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The men that have the most options are probably gonna have kids. They've just had more opportunities to get women pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:04 PM
1

So they each got two women to marry them. They must know something.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:58 PM
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You know how some people talk about how a woman can sleep with a guy who is much more attractive but she won't get commitment from that guy. I see RP guys say that a lot. "A guy who is an 8 will sleep with a woman who is a 5 but he won't commit to her". What's the gender swapped version of that? "A woman who is an 8 will ________________ a guy who is a 5. But she won't ______________________ him".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:56 AM
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But you're talking about how women think they can get a relationship from a man just because that man will sleep with them. Or did I misunderstand the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:12 PM
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Not the same. In this scenario, the men are sleeping with the woman. I assume that lots of men would think the stripper was into him if they slept with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:50 PM
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I was thinking that the more successful woman is more likely to leave because she'll eventually want a guy on her level. It's not that the less successful woman can't leave, it's that she probably won't want to because she is with a more successful man. Since most women want more successful men, men have a higher chance of success if they aim down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:15 PM
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All else equal and a guarantee that she wouldn't leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:09 PM
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I disagree. Men aren't out chasing rich women. One of the main complaints that I see from women online is that men go for less successful women. They accuse the men of being intimidated or insecure of her success.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:10 PM
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Hypergamy is about socioeconomic status. Looks have nothing to do with it. If a woman dates a man who makes less money but is better looking than her, that's not hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:10 PM
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No. Men are not hypergamous. Most men's goal is not to marry someone of a higher socioeconomic status. The reason men tend to go for women who make less, is because they know women go for men who make more. So, they have a higher chance of success if they go for women who make less than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:04 PM
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People gonna hate on a guy no matter how he does it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:35 PM
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specifically friends and cousins or just other women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:17 PM
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Is she gonna fuck other guys or just be sexless herself? Will she allow me to fuck other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:16 PM
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There are videos where a woman is given the profile of an average man and has to try to get a woman to reply to a message.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 11:14 PM
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But, he didn't lean into women more. It's just that the women got more attention. See, it's always been socially acceptable to tell a man, "You aren't good enough to get the women you want". It's not considered controversial or politically incorrect. However, it isn't socially acceptable to tell a woman, "You aren't good enough to get the men you want". The harshness was to get views because negativity is what goes viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 10:40 PM
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No. I base curfews on age and behavior. If I had a son and daughter who were the same age, they'd have the same curfew unless one had proven themselves to be more or less trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:29 PM
3

I doubt a guy who isn't asexual would want a woman who is. But I wouldn't call being Asexual a red flag. Just an incompatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:57 PM
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I lived in South Korea for a few year, money is really big to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:05 PM
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Every statistic available says that it's men. Is it possible that women under report? Yes. But we won't know unless they start reporting. There is no way to track under reporting. I could argue that men get r*ped more than women because they under report. But there is no way to prove that. To be clear, I don't really think that. I'm just using it as an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:04 PM
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If she's Asexual, we aren't compatible but that's not a red flag. If she's waiting for marriage, we aren't compatible but that's not a red flag. If she's really unattractive, then I'm not gonna want her either. But if she's a nice looking woman who has just chosen not to have sex yet, that's a green flag. It shows self control and that she values her body enough to be picky about who she shares it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:13 PM
2

Why did you a choose a person you didn't like to lose your V card to?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:10 PM
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That's a possibility. But it could also mean that she wants to wait for marriage or she just hasn't found a guy that she wants to sleep with yet. Maybe she is Asexual. You can get to know her and find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 03:08 PM
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There's not a lack of good men. There is a lack of good men who also have all the qualities that she is looking for. Just about every woman has turned down a good man because she didn't find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 12:48 PM
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TRP isn't a men's advocacy movement. It's just about dating strategies. Why should they be talking about those issues? They only reason they should mention those things is when feminist bring them up. It's the feminist bringing them up. Issues like the draft or circumcision is more of an MRA topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:49 PM
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How likely is it that a man in this situation would be able to find other women to sleep with? If he is able to attract other women, why not just be with one of them? Is the scenario somehow that I'm no woman's first choice but several of them are still willing to sleep with me?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:00 AM
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I find that I dislike almost everyone who shares my hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:07 PM
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No. She had standards and I didn't meet them. Now I do. Besides, I'd be a giant hypocrite if I had a problem with my friend becoming attracted to me after I became more conventionally attractive. Looks matter. They matter to everyone. Some more than others. I've known several women with great personalities that I didn't find attractive because of their looks. If it were something like, winning the lottery, then I'd be upset. Because I'd know that she only wants me for the money. I've only seen g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:51 PM
6

Cut your hair really short. Dye it any color of the rainbow. Nose ring, neck tattoos.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:46 PM
1

Those aren't free societies. Polygamy would only benefit women in a free society where they have more freedoms and rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:14 PM
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No. Women have egos too. Very few women will ever knowingly share a man. Most will lower their standards in order to get a decent guy all to themselves. A smaller percentage will just stay single.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:45 PM
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Came across this on youtube. Give it a watch and tell me what you think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkDYDSz616I
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 09:29 PM
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Killing is bad. The standard won't change because the new chads will move into those spots. If you kill all the guys who earn six figures, then other guys will take over those jobs and get those pay checks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:45 AM
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Murder is bad. There would just be new "chads" to replace them. The most attractive guys of whoever is left will become the new "chads".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:02 AM
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No. But I'd want to know what the plots are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 10:00 AM
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Why is the woman in a relationship with an unattractive man? Your answer to that question is what she's getting out of it. Why is the man in a relationship with a woman who won't have sex with him? To answer the main question, what a woman gets out of a 50/50 relationship is power. If a man is paying for everything, then he's the one who has the power and makes the decisions. If a woman wants to share the power, she must also share the responsibilities. It also give her a feeling of independence…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:32 AM
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This sounds like something that is only attractive in people that you already find attractive. If you're an attractive guy who rescues cats, then you're all those nice qualities that you mentioned. If you're an unattractive guy who rescues cats, then you're just "The Weird Cat Guy". It will never be. I don't want to date him. Oh he rescues cats. Now I want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:34 PM
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You gotta pick better men or just be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:59 PM
2

Exactly. I've come realize the uncomfortable truth that a lot of our grandfathers were not the guy our grandmother liked the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 08:27 PM
2

What?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:23 PM
5

It's a thread that's asking for nice things.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:21 PM
5

Male or female, how many people are honest enough with themselves to say, "I date shitty people because they're hot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:48 PM
5

I grew up in the 90s and I don't remember people having a computer in their pockets. But they do now. It's call the passage of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:15 PM
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It's no big thing. Every nut has groupies. I've seen women comment on how cute a mass shooter was. Ted Bundy got love letters and marriage proposals. I think the difference between the men and women who do this is that it's clear the men just wanna band the psycho woman if she's good looking. I think the women are on some, "I can change him" thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:13 PM
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I get that. But they aren't saying, "I don't need a man to pay my bills but I need a man for other things". That's different. To be clear. I'm fine with a woman not needing a man. I'm a man and I don't need a woman. But if I said I don't need a woman because I'm a good cook and can do laundry, that would imply that I only see a woman as a cook and cleaner.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:22 PM
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Nobody is asking you to do that with men you don't like. You can need a man and look for one that you like and want to touch. But if you say "I don't need a man" because you have money, then you view a man as just a wallet. You see no other value or use in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:55 PM
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I think you got a typo there. But I get what you meant. My point is that the reasons women give for not needing a man are always things related to money.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:52 PM
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That's true for men and women. We don't need each other the way our grandparents needed each other. That's a good thing. I don't want people getting together out of necessity. But when all it takes in order for you to say, "I don't need a man" is money then it shows that a man is only a wallet to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:48 PM
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If that's the case, the women wouldn't be saying, "I don't need a man". They'd be saying, "I need a man for/to (insert thing other than money)"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:29 AM
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IF that were the case, the women wouldn't say, "I don't need a man". They would say, "I need a man who has/is (insert thing other than money)" They would talk about the things the NEED a man for other than money. But they aren't saying that. They are saying, "I don't need a man". Let me flip it around. Imagine who is good at cooking and cleaning saying "I don't need a woman". We would say to that man, "Is that all a woman is to you"? Nobody would say, "Well women need to show these men what they…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:28 AM
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I think the bigger issue is that it shows what these women think of men. To say that you don't need men because you have money shows that you only see men as a wallet. These women feel that men have no use or value outside of their bank account. To answer your question, I think that in recent years, there has been more of a push on social media to label men as nothing more than a wallet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:01 AM
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I think mandatory prenups is a good idea with or without no fault divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:56 PM
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https://techreport.com/statistics/lifestyle/cheating-statistics/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:52 PM
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Gun to her head? A bit dramatic there.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:51 PM
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I'm talking about successful people. A guy who has a lot of dating success could still complain about what he had to do in order to get that success.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 04:18 PM
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You can succeed but complain about what you have to do in order to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 03:35 PM
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I'd never want to date any of them. But Kim is nice looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 08:57 AM
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A lot of female pro-wrestlers are my type. As far as more main stream, anyone curvy and busty will likely be my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:23 PM
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That's fine. It's ok to have a dream. But most people are realistic. Every dude would have a playboy bunny for a wife if he could. But we know that's not realistic. There ain't enough playboy bunnies to go around. So we find a girl that we love and build a life with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:18 PM
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I exaggerated a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:08 PM
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No. No woman would get shamed for saying, "I want a nice average Joe".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 10:08 PM
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I mentioned this on another sub earlier today. Keep in mind that when we talk about women's unrealistic dating standards, those are the only ones that go viral. If a woman goes on tik tok and says "I want a guy whose 6'5 and makes 2 million a year" that goes viral. If a woman says, "I just want an average Joe whose 5'8 and make 50k a year", that doesn't go viral. Most women are NOT delusional. It's just the delusional ones who go viral.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:37 PM
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Is this a real lyric? If so, it's great TayBeard material.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:35 PM
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I've heard that statements like this and "I wish I could find a guy like you" really means, "I want someone better than you who will treat me the way you do".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 07:09 PM
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Sure. But I think this woman is evaluating herself as if she's a man. She's assuming that the guy is looking for an equal. Just because he's an accomplished man, doesn't mean he wants an accomplished woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:14 PM
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I like her videos. I really liked the either or videos she did with women. I'd like to see a guy version of it.
/r/ExRedPill26/06/24 04:06 PM
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Do you have to follow red pill content in order to be redpill? Maybe that guy is just a naturally red pill guy even though he's never heard of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 09:53 AM
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