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Just don’t do any of the above. Get married and make babies yo
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:34 AM
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Why are you engaging in an intimate act with someone so horrifying to have children with?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 08:11 AM
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Birth control is a sin. For either sex. How corrupt is your soul that you would turn down the gift of a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 07:35 AM
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The idea is that blue pill is what you conventionally learn through what is commonly portrayed and taught in western/American school, media, and pop culture. Red pill is supposed to be the ugly truth that society doesn’t want to tell you about or examine. It is the duality of believing a comfortable lie vs an uncomfortable truth with the idea of if you take the redpill you can atleast protect yourself and possibly learn these hidden truths that make you better able to navigate the world. Way bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:37 PM
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It was all because I made a comment on a post about a man considering getting back with his “toxic ex” who cheated on him 5 years ago. He said they met at a party and she apologized and they vibed and ended up hooking up again. I just said that if he considers this he should ask her what she has done to address what led her to behave that way and ensure she is sincere and has changed. Super red pill right? So yeah they investigated me, found where I posted on here saying some things that are red…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 08:56 PM
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It’s funny how you can’t post this in a subreddit like dating advice because those guys ban you for even being subscribed to this subreddit. I lost weight once for a while and had somewhat similar results. What I noticed was more that professionally I was taken seriously. Despite timing my breaks previously and making no changes the complaints about being lazy dropped off and I was being told how great of an employee I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 05:27 PM
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Sexual success indicates status. Even that Tate guy said that amongst like the billionaire class the way they show status amongst each other is their access to beautiful women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:32 AM
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and what does the left believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 01:40 PM
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Are men being left behind in the dating market because they spend too much time with porn, video games, and chicken tenders? Or are they turning to these things out of lack of dates?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 09:12 AM
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Doesn’t this mentality just ensure that the only women or certainly the most statistically significant and women making babies are the ones who are too low iq and irresponsible to manage their own birth control? Aren’t you basically contributing to ensuring that Idiocracy becomes real?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/23 08:39 AM
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I mean thee women on these shows like Kevin Samuels when you say ambitious are just unrealistic. Like out of touch with reality. Refrigerator bodied 30 something single mothers who say they want a man who makes 300k per year. Part of my concern is such a woman who is “ambitious” in what she wants her man to make translates to constant nagging and just never being satisfied. A man wants peace at home. Or atleast I do. I just don’t see a woman being ambitious in her career as necessarily more inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/23 11:48 AM
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That’s a fair point. I mean women had less bastard children with criminals and losers back in the day I want to say but probably we have always been on this trajectory. Now it’s just moving faster towards idiocracy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 04:42 AM
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Just imagine the lost iq points from letting women have free range on mate selection while letting the higher iq women squander their fertility in the corporate world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:27 AM
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I think there are very few women who would wake up as a man and be successful romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 08:40 PM
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I think a lot of dudes in this red pill stuff at the very least understate how their poor social adaptation is totally fucking them. I have known several dudes who chronically have problems with women and it’s social for the most part. Several are rather short, but super fit and cut. I guess some guys are just not neurotypical or well adapted to the modern social climate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 03:43 AM
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I’m very interested in this. So often it seems like women impute malice onto men who are bad at dating (or atleast if those men ever complain). Like what do the women that know me and men in my situation say about me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/23 01:14 AM
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Right. Creeping out women is just a cost of doing business
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:41 PM
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Correct. Keep in mind a total lack of understanding of these guys working in jobs/careers that literally keep society and her various comforts working.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:40 PM
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I mean maybe but seeing this observation made by myself and countless other men kind of lends credence to it. Even romantically successful and more emotionally balanced/mature men than myself discuss their observations of this phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:13 AM
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I’ve asked a couple out. Last couple have been single mothers which I’m not even judging but trying to get plans gelling for a date was such a hassle I quit reaching out after a bit. Yeah you’ve got kids that require your attention. Tell you what if it’s such a hassle you just text me plans sometime because I’m tired of offering. Perhaps I am misreading this and you are actually blowing me off despite saying how much you thought us going out was a great idea and seeking me out on IG. I just don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 05:02 AM
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Oh yes. Am I supposed to deny that? I’m fearful of rejection and have self esteem issues. I mean I didn’t really feel the need to respond to your point “women make moves too”. It’s just context denial of the social climate we live in where men are expected to make the lion’s share of first moves. Not saying it’s right or wrong, but it is the social context.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 04:59 AM
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Because they’re accountable for their actions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:15 AM
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I mean are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 02:08 AM
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Right. An unwanted male approaching is a threat of someone they deem unworthy to take advantage of their fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:27 AM
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Quite frankly yes. I am sure the social expectation there has kept me from approaching at several instances of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:24 AM
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I mean we are talking about relationships which are by definition social constructs so…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:21 AM
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Thank you for the positive interaction. Yes I am hopeful. I am sad for the opportunities I have squandered in the past but hopeful for the future as well. Have a great day/night
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:17 AM
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And women have babies out of wedlock and new Stds every day. And not on every first date. But some.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:09 AM
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That’s ok. I understand the need to vent sometimes. I have difficulty in social situations sometimes playing the game you are talking about. Much of it due to poor socialization and perhaps some ASD. I’m in therapy to help. I would like to have more positive relationships socially and romantically. It is certainly a struggle as a man seeing others succeed and yourself fail. Also to have that aspect of yourself be left invalidated and unwanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:06 AM
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Right but women aren’t making advances. They’re putting themselves out there and then being upset when people show up to the party they don’t like. Women complain about stuff like this because their complaints intimidate a certain percent of men from ever approaching them. Ironically the men who actually take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:37 AM
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No this isn’t what happens. What happens is you ducked every other guy on the first date and then suddenly you give the stable maybe a little boring guy a chance and he gets annoyed at the new found sexual morals and boundaries you have with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:21 AM
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The shy nerdy guy gets ignored initially. Sees the girl getting with the guy who says disgusting things to her but hey he’s a funny bad boy. Nerd tries to learn and say these things to the woman. He’s a creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:05 AM
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Is this a routine experience for every semi attractive woman in America? I would hate to slut shame but is this behavior generally reserved for women that routinely dress and or act as though they might be interested in stranger penis?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 12:03 AM
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Women basically just want unattractive men to not interfere with their day and die quietly. What’s more there is no process or self improvement for these men that women would like to see. To women you either are or are not. They don’t respect any sort of investment a man makes in becoming better until he crosses that threshold.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:12 PM
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Is it actually a painful ordeal or have you been gaslit by years of media influence into a Madonna whore view of men that responsible men suck at sex, but thug criminals slang good dick? Maybe it’s you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:28 PM
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I mean even Andrew Tate takes care of his children. If you want a solution to the deadbeat dad problem I have it: Tell women to stop letting deadbeats cum in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:26 PM
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I mean what does anyone have to offer anyone when not looking through a purely materialist lens? I mean isn’t love and companionship as well as other emotional gifts interchangeable? Couldn’t you give just about anyone that gift and they return it?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:19 PM
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The problem is women want to use their sexuality which everyone can see but they only want it to work on the guys they want. Basically they’re throwing their hook in the water and acting shocked and hurt when they reel in a fish they didn’t want
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:56 PM
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Women get with creeps and assholes when they are young then they pretend that all men are like that and treat the nice guy she settles down with as if he is somehow responsible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:54 PM
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I actually was just reading on another forum a woman complaining about supposedly being asked to help treat “incels and mysoginists” nicely so they might heal and how she supposedly found this offensive and she was abused as an adolescent because society apparently told her to be nice to men including these men she dated in high school who apparently used her to sexually gratify themselves and were otherwise mysoginists and abusive. Does she realize those guys probably aren’t the incels? The inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:53 PM
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We do. We tell women not to become single mothers which are a significant statistical driver of all the problems you mention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 08:19 PM
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Do you have any idea how many times in my 20s I heard about how boring I was? How many times I got stood up, not invited to the party, and passed over. And now I’m supposed to feel like I won some prize because all that stability I was building in my youth by not being one of those guys at the club came to fruition and looks good to you now the chickens are coming to roost. Yeah those drunks at the club are a lot more fun than me at home cooking on my slow cooker to save money for my IRA. Nah, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:32 AM
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The guy grew by focusing on his career and stability. The woman grew by….? Fucking those fun guys at the club? Getting an std? Having a child out of wedlock with a man who won’t come around. We grew threw long term investment in the stability and productivity of our lives. These women grew by wasting their best years ducking guys who don’t give a shit about them, collecting emotional baggage, and realizing that guy you called Boring probably won’t hit you or gamble all of the rent money away
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 09:21 AM
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https://youtu.be/gFTU24EJ4T8
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:42 PM
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It sounds like encouraging men to be alienated by society is good for diversity and inclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:57 PM
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I am unable to find a source besides a YouTube video on Reddit of a Dr crit enjoy talking about in the 70s American feminists including Friedan pushing to block research into the male pill and risug saying men would lie about being on it to baby trap women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 01:14 PM
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Actually feminist Betty Friedan organized and led protests against research for male birth control. Her statement was that giving men more control of their body in this manner would threaten women by removing their power over reproduction in comparison to man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:30 AM
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I think it would be more fruitful and realistic if the IRS investigated all of these taxes every woman in America is dodging. How much untaxed money in gifts are these women getting each year with their fancy dinner dates, expensive gifts, and travel? I bet if we added that up it would be a significant amount of taxable income. Are these sex workers and sugar babies paying taxes? The IRS should investigate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:25 AM
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Because I haven’t been laid or possibly even on a date for months or years.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:50 PM
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I usually obfuscate it until after I’ve had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 11:26 PM
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My parents did the best they can. They both came from relatively poor/lower class backgrounds. I was always a quiet passive kid who preferred to lay around, watch tv, play video games, etc. My dad was a hunter and outdoorsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:06 PM
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My colleague at work is 40 years old, established, and attractive. He has a high social status and prestigious career. He says everything Andrew Tate says is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 02:26 AM
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I think a lot of guys are going to feel demoralized at approaching such a woman since often men consider financial success as something they bring to the table. They may feel they have less to offer such a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 08:15 PM
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She has a lot of experience in arranging casual sex but not in living a stable relationship. Pair bonding is infamously talked about as an issue on here. Some nebulous study that shows that once a woman’s body count is 7 or higher she loses the ability to pair bond
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 04:13 PM
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Right but it wasn’t just that. It was she met him, said hey lemme fuck this other guy instead, and is now messaging him about it in a way that sounds like she could give or take him to be honest but let’s say for sake of argument she did want something there. Now after she went with dude #2 as her first choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:16 AM
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What you’re trying to say is lesbians report a disproportionate amount of intimate partner violence compared to straight couples. Lesbian bed death is the concept where lesbians in committed relationships tend to have the most dead or bedrooms. Committed lesbians are statistically the least sexually active. While all couples in committed relationships experience this it tends to be worse for lesbians
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:22 PM
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Lesbian bed death is a thing I hear about. Also lesbians have the highest rates of domestic violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:45 PM
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Then consult divorce lawyer and ask her about one sided open marriage just to eff with her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:19 PM
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Because lesbians are mental cases
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:56 PM
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You should tell your wife you are interested in a cuckquean lifestyle and see how she responds. The way she is acting after you are around other women leaves three options: She is afraid of losing you so is tossing you a bone She is actually turned on by seeing you engaged with other women so in that case may be into this kink She is so self unaware and a rolling ball of emotion that she has no idea what any of this means. She needs therapy. 1 and 3 are scenarios where you should strongly consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:53 PM
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Men do want relationships. The complaint from men on this site is that women “put them on the shelf” and don’t want a relationship with them until that woman has “had her fun” and now she feels she must now settle for the relationship type. Then there is much concern that these women will not respect them and take them for granted. Additionally many men feel the humiliation of being a woman’s second/last choice is intolerable. These men want loving happy relationships but feel this is something …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 04:40 AM
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Chicks never seem to insist on a condom. Which ironically makes me insist on a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 10:21 PM
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I always enjoy hearing women jabber on about “female intuition” or their supposed empathy and knowledge of people while every partner they choose is somewhere between worthless and abusive. I know I’m not good with people or as socialized as I should be, but I know it atleast because I don’t have a legion of the opposite sex blowing smoke up my ass because they want to fuck me
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 08:52 PM
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This. This is it. It seems many times women complain about the friend zone but pretend those two real scenarios aren’t happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:06 PM
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Most churches are just the bar and night club women but older
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/23 12:00 AM
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This anime was made like in the 90s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:10 AM
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My first crush literally got the nickname wrong hole because she was fucking some 24 year old she met at Walmart when she was in freshman high and while he was hitting it from the back WHILE SMOKING CRACK he put it in her butt. She told this story on the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:29 PM
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What the hell is this stag/vixen stuff I keep hearing about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 11:25 PM
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Where were you when the Incels built like Conan the Barbarian took the White House? (This is a clear parody and does not represent any kind of plan or endorsement)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:44 PM
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They should date each other tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:03 PM
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You can’t even begin to make a moral choice if you aren’t honest with yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:14 AM
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I mean did he male rape the person? No he came in her with her consent and she refused to be responsible for her fertility
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:35 PM
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If the shoe fits, but I was speaking of women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:35 PM
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Single mother has a kid Raises kid without a father in the home. Puts the kid at increased risk of being a child sex victim by parading her various boyfriends and hookups through the house. Kid grows up and doesn’t turn out well Single mother: surprise pikachu
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:57 PM
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Women choose the men who pump and dump them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:55 PM
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Looks like she made a bad choice of who she let cum inside her. Women refuse to take accountability for their sexual choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:55 PM
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You spend a lot of money on bullshit to be surviving. Then you’ve got guys bankrolling your lifestyle most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:46 PM
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Knew an activist of the same who was himself black.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:43 PM
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I’m saying we will at the very least admit it to ourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:40 PM
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Right. In the past there were more hurdles to reproduction that would have leveled the playing field a bit. I see a bit because going back centuries Iq is negatively associated with fertility to some extent. In the past your 80 iq gangbanger would have been killed off by myriad other means. He has all of Western Medicine and Western legal system to ensure he fathers as many illegitimate children as possible. In the past a great many of those children would have died off. Low parental investment …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:40 PM
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It’s good for meeting redditors. Dm me your insta if you prefer. I’m getting ready for tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:11 PM
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I’m saying his ‘racism’ is more a function of his class and lower status criminal culture. To some these symbols are more like a crown for the Latin kings or other just gang affiliations. I doubt these types can wax on about statistics like how blacks despite being 13% of the population commit over 50% of the murders every year or that black men rape 30000 white women every year. They’re not going to know or care about stuff like that. They aren’t the type to talk about how black supremacist rhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:10 PM
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That’s awesome. Wanna exchange snaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:06 PM
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Skinheads are usually a subculture of whites more focused on being low class criminal shitbags than actually being racist. The swastikas and confederate flags are just window dressing. Met several skinheads who lust after and fuck black girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:57 PM
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Men want a tattoo free virgin who is not in debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:52 PM
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I think that’s great! Just be straight with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:49 PM
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I take exception with this women seeking the ‘best genes’ thing. Have you seen some of the people these women make bastards with? Brokedick artists. 86 iq thug criminals and rap stars. Sociopathic men who show off their flashy wealth which is really just credit card debt. Nah genetic iq is going down. By 2070 I believe the projection is worldwide average iq of every country will be 90 or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:27 PM
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I’ve hit the point in my career now where I make disposable income and have enough savings and investments to live a lifestyle of some luxury. I’ll spend the next year focusing on my health and weight loss while spending my money on traveling and experiences. When I get to my goal weight I’m planning to buy some nice clothes. Perhaps hire and image consultant. To think i worked all these years thinking I’d be using this money for a wife, kids, and family. I never got any of that so now I get to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:01 PM
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I mean yeah I agree in the context of the modern world. Young girls these days make so much money being whores for men of means.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:57 PM
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Haha ikr. But we guys don’t give a flying fuck about that shit and we will tell you as much. Women will tell you all sorts of shit but not directly say “you’re too fat bro just lose weight”. Guys will be shallow and admit they’re shallow. Women will be shallow but seem to still want kudos for not being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:52 PM
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Working on it. 20 lbs down this year. Gonna drops more than that this coming year
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:48 PM
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Because attraction wise that is literally all they have to do with their time. Don’t give af avoid your career or any of that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:11 AM
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Nah you’re right. Those women have been spoiled and short of years of therapy are most likely going to have to go into the trash
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 07:07 AM
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Literally. I’m a fat dude who says no fat chicks. Some people say this is hypocritical and perhaps it is, but women you have like 1 job: don’t be fat. I’m over here working on my career, lifting weights, saving money, trying to develop hobbies and social skills. You had one job ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:58 AM
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Seriously. I saw this smoking hot 18 year old on Hinge. I looked her up on Facebook and that night she was talking about somebody taking her for a nice meal. Basically she was being taken to the most expensive restaurant in the city. This from a girl of poor background who works in a gas station. Sugaring her way into the most exclusive places I can afford only a few times a year at best
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:40 AM
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Can we post racial crime states here. Rape seems like it would be very on topic for this forum. I’m not sure if that is grade 4 or less
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:37 AM
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I remember in professional school at college s class mate got a state grant because she was a mother and she had previously had a house which she lost to bankruptcy. The government gave her money because of her so called struggle because she had a past of drugs, buying a house she couldn’t afford and losing it, and losing her first kid to protective services for drugs. Meanwhile I lived at home, avoided drugs, tobacco, and alcohol, and never had any kids out of wedlock. I got nothing. Not only t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:34 AM
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My dad was a man from poverty who worked hard to being his family to lower middle class and have his kids get an education. He lived frugally and saved up money. My brother and myself both got degrees and good jobs atleast. He died of COVID at 70 and his wife my mother 7 years younger developed early onset dementia. Her dad has late onset so this was a surprise. My mom was morbidly obese and soon after developing dementia required a nursing home as she lost her mobility. All of the money my dad …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:16 AM
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Get your passport bro
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 05:28 AM
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This is a nonsequiter you have posted but yeah black on white violence is still disproportionate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:59 AM
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I know this is a gross oversimplification but I do remember when I turned like 35 suddenly getting the attention of several of these older woman who I would once consider out of my league. My classmate’s older sister who was wild and had an abortion years ago, the fat girl who lost a lot of weight and spurned me 6 years ago but now has 3 kids and is divorced, a couple others
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:27 AM
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What is ‘the purge’
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:18 AM
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Have you ever looked at std rates by race?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:09 AM
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But what about all those poor men of color
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 02:07 AM
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Victim blaming
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 01:55 AM
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Someone call the dovahkiin to get that hagraven
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 12:25 AM
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Aren’t men more likely to be victims of violent crime than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:54 PM
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Get your passport, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:36 PM
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Yeah those are like catharsis videos you can watch to feel better for a minute, BUT you are supposed to move on. Many guys don’t want to move on. Because you know. Actually doing stuff is hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:14 PM
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I think the tendency is a lot of these people watch videos about red pill and self improvement, but never actually do anything productive. They’ll listen to Tate tell them to eat onions and work out, but they never actually hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 06:43 PM
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Yeah this. I’m so tired and jaded from all of the gas lighting about how I’m not actually a good person or nice or whatever. Not blaming anyone but I think men’s mental health would be better if women were more honest and direct in what they valued
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:29 PM
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Because Christian ethics preclude things like sex outside of marriage and marrying people who are “unequally yoked” ie not as Christian as you. I mean if no one is going to take this stuff seriously can we just stop calling ourselves Christian and pretending? Real Christianity is anti LGBTetc, anti sex outside of marriage, anti marrying nonChristians, and men as head of households. Anything else and you’re just doing a sort of cultural dress up game and not taking it seriously in the least. If n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 07:35 AM
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No I in a way wasn’t surprised so much by that but after rapping with me about Christian ethics and shit it softened me up. It ultimately shows that people are just animals and all that ideology bullshit doesn’t really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 05:25 AM
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I’m not looking to debate or even worry about it that right here and now
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 08:31 PM
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Ikr. First time I saw them talking I was like “yaw are totally gonna smash because they’re both high powered professionals in good shape and she is traveling (we all know what a woman traveling means)” but then after that initial impression at some point we rapped about church and all that shit and I kind of forgot. Then I found out it happened and I was like oh yeah this religion stuff doesn’t mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 06:30 PM
19

Chad and I are friends. I mentioned possibly coming to her area for vacation in the future and she immediately brought up Chad and asked if I’d bring him along. Chad let me know as Chad is back in his on again off again relationship and doesn’t need her inquiring about him on her Facebook repeatedly in the comments
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 05:13 PM
46

Had an attractive and successful female temp employee come into my company. Found out she is also Baptist and together we connected and talked about religion, beliefs, and spirituality. At a later date we sang gospel songs together. We exchanged info at some point and kept in touch after she left. Found out she slept with my atheist libertarian chad colleague
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 04:56 PM
1

My theory is that in the past in a high trust society this was a successful strategy when doing these things would trigger reciprocal behavior in your fellow men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 12:41 AM
1

Who is saying this one didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:55 PM
1

Maybe his definition of dating is different than hooking up in a hotel room. Either way he died doing what he loved. Isn’t this like Pua Valhalla or something
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:31 PM
1

In all seriousness who pays for either of these things? Tate vids are free on the net if you want them and porn is free. If anything in the new year my money is going to a nutritionist and personal trainer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 06:00 PM
5

He died of a heart attack banging out some 30 something nurse in a hotel room
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 05:21 PM
-1

Would you rather I spend my money on onlyfans?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:58 PM
-8

Whatever fine I’ll hit the gym and listen to Andrew Tate. If everyone else is building rotations I guess I need to just work on myself until I can have a rotation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:55 AM
1

No here is where I will futilely say don’t fuck those guys, but this is pointless. Fine, I’ll hit the gym and listen to Andrew Tate if you insist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:53 AM
-9

You understand there is and was a time where men “spinning plates” was also seen as boorish behavior right? Like those weren’t the guys you wanted at the dinner party. But now it seems like so many women are adapting this worse behavior of a subset of men. Or at the very worst guys so it as an accomplishment that a man could convince so many women to sleep with him. Like it took effort. A woman doesn’t require effort to build a “roster” and generally men view women that behave in such a way not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 10:00 AM
4

How are men supposed to take you seriously as an option for LTR material when you have a “rotation” or men you are fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 08:48 AM
1

We got like 19-22 year old girls posting TikTok’s talking about how they’re sad they have to rebuild their “roster” because they took a guy seriously and called it off with their “roster” only for the relationship to end. What kind of shit is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 07:27 AM
1

I find the only time I have Chad super villain thoughts, feelings, and fantasies is when I feel that a stable marriage with a loyal woman is beyond my reach
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 06:56 AM
1

A portion of an already smaller portion. A significant portion of hot young girls are sugar dating. And hell the ones that aren’t are just giving it away for free
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 12:35 AM
4

A promiscuous man is a predator. A promiscuous woman is a naive victim
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/22 08:45 PM
5

I think the romantic and sexual landscape has changed so rapidly that old truisms may no longer hold true. A few decades ago a woman having a tattoo was, allegedly, a sign of increased risk for promiscuity and mental illness. A century ago women were, supposedly, virgins until marriage. In the new individualistic landscape where such behaviors are normalized it is no longer as useful as a judge of character. Basically, women sleeping with loads of men is no longer seen in common society as taboo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:37 AM
1

I know several attractive young women who are doing the sugar baby thing. They can do what they like but systemically this doesn’t bode well when you have a significant portion of women foregoing productive dating for sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:33 AM
4

I totally understand that you must get out there and socialize to meet people, but I hate that all social events seem to revolve around destroying my liver either through alcohol or a fatty diet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 12:27 AM
1

You’re like 20 years late with this
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/22 06:09 AM
0

Because being social is easy mode for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 09:46 PM
1

Modern women don’t date on some intrinsic barometer of ‘quality’ or being ‘high value’. Modern women date to be entertained and validated in life. So they want a man who is attractive enough to entertain them sexually and socially or can trigger those emotions in her. They want someone who can make them feel entertained from their boring lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 08:39 AM
3

Well adjusted attractive people usually have social networks that make cold approaching women obsolete
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 05:41 AM
-1

No they forget after they’ve been through a parade of other penises.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:09 AM
8

I’m an obese male and taking myself out of the dating game until that is under control. In 4 months I should cross the threshhold from obese to merely overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 04:00 AM
1

It would become more concentrated
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 08:00 PM
1

I’ve seen personally how being socially… uncalblibrated has negatively affected me but as a 36m I do not know how to fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/22 01:21 AM
2

I think a lot of this is based on as a young child/man a lot of women would tell young children/men that valuing someone based off looks is somehow morally wrong or inferior and not something good people do. So yeah basically women’s inability to be direct and honest with what they like has stunted a whole generation of men to the point they need Andrew Tate to tell them to work out and make enough money to drive a Bugatti before they can work on themselves BECAUSE every female and female author…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/22 10:10 PM
5

My friend is a 6’2 well built 40m former soldier and doctor. What’s funny is we are both red pill just on opposite sides. He has slept with loads of beautiful women many professional women. I’m over here being obese fighting for scraps in tinder. And yet somehow we both agree that the red pill is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:48 AM
5

The modern left doesn’t actually give a shit about worker’s rights, but instead spend all of their political capital on social causes. Sometimes modern leftists will talk about it, but they don’t actually make material gains in this department. See railway strike
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:30 AM
1

Capitalism is inherently individualistic and libertarianism promotes the idea these men could financially prosper on their own with no taxes taken from them or without social programs which are generally used to benefit people not them. In modern America taxes are worthless as Americans don’t get anything for paying taxes. Taxes are used to prop up and appease a dysfunctional underclass in America as well as a police state more likely to put you in prison for defending your property while kneeli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 04:26 AM
2

Definitely unless you can provide a lavish lifestyle then you’re not a breadwinner but a sugar daddy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/22 12:16 AM
4

In my experience from reading this forum there are several reasons men consider women doing this problematic. Atleast part of the problem is that a woman making a man wait, assuming she is acting in a non malicious manner, is being inauthentic by withholding sex from the man she considers LTR material. Some might say she herself is suffering from an internalized Madonna whore complex unable to have sex with someone she considers serious. She is misrepresenting herself inauthentically as someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 09:01 PM
-2

I mean let’s be honest guys will fuck and date a pretty low bar so if a guy isn’t willing then it is highly likely that woman is disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 04:56 PM
1

I think people will utilize technology to the max benefit as they see it as they can but.. I’m predicting total societal collapse by 2070 so I mean that will be the least of our problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 11:04 PM
4

Honestly my reflex is to wonder what kind of damage and baggage this chick has. Is she trying to make real change or manipulate me? Is this a decision made through a healthy attempt at bettering herself or a reflexive shutting down after the trauma of her past experiences? How else is this trauma going to come through and act as a hindrance to me and any relationship I try to build here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 03:58 PM
1

Liberal women give off vibes of being “easy” is my instinctual answer. My answer with some experience is “conservative” women are often just as promiscuous if not more so than liberal women, but are dishonest about it. Also this sometimes leads to risky sexual behavior and not caring for their sexual health and safety as they should.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/22 01:04 AM
2

Personally I think casual sex and early sex is so common now that I no longer judge a woman for wanting that early so long as we have established a connection. In the past I have been judge mental in that regard and I have passed up some good partners because of my outdated conservative priors.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:23 PM
1

It’s because of the female internalization of the Madonna whore complex and fear of being judged by that complex in men. She doesn’t want to be written off as a short term only gal by the 2nd guy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/22 07:21 PM
1

I find desperate people make the worst decisions. Men who go long without and are insecure such as myself make bad decisions. Women who are unattractive conventionally such as fat women are often the most irresponsible. When your mentality is “I’ll take what I can get” it doesn’t leave room for good decision making. That said when I have gotten urethritis in the past it was from hooking up with a fat chick that was rebelling from her church. I later found out I was like guy number 7 for that wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:22 PM
1

I’m totally ok admitting that. I’m an obese guy with a no fat chicks shirt haha
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/22 02:18 PM
2

I acknowledge your options as possibilities but put forward my thesis as another explanation for a subset of women’s behavior. I do not believe women are unable to develop mental illness or complexes about their identity and sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:11 PM
2

I mean sure but can we not add an option C of identity issues or is this a form of mental illness that females are immune to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:07 PM
2

Just an observation. The variation of this complex usually noted by men in these forums is a woman who had an adventurous sex life before settling down but then becomes prudish with the man she marries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/22 05:01 PM
1

This reminds me of my criticism when getting dating advice from women. Women will give you great dating advice for finding a woman who is well adjusted, logical, emotionally centered, and has figured out what she wants. Yeah good luck finding a woman like that 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/22 03:29 PM
1

Sure if you’re going to pay for the added cost
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/22 11:12 PM
3

More likely the dropping genetic iq will make civilization genetically untenable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:59 PM
7

There will be less of them in their own country but atleast it will still be THEIR country.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 09:44 PM
9

I’ll always miss the way she caressed my face and called me handsome. And when she had a question or needed to communicate she would say I have a question and state it. Kind of autistic in a cute way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:15 PM
26

I’ve lost interest in women for stupid reasons and it was due to my self esteem issues. Fucked up as it is I see no reason why someone would like me unless something is wrong with them and then I go looking and inventing problems. The last one I deeply regret as she had great communication skills, treated me well, and was sexually very compatible with me. The things I came up with were absurd and superstitious even.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 11:04 PM
1

I’m a genetic determinist but even I think outside of extreme cases much of this can be fixed. My mom had severe depression and social anxiety. I grew up in a house basically being told that If I went outside or socialized it would make life harder for the parents. They didn’t mean to tell me this, but it was what I picked up on being a shy and empathetic boy. So I played video games, never saw friends outside of school hours, and never really developed socially. If I had a different upbringing …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:23 AM
1

I have deep social, physical, and emotional problems. At some point I guess i thought a woman would look past that idk because I would give her a marriage and kids or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 01:13 AM
7

My parents were just not social so I was never exposed to any social interaction outside of school. We were poor and they made me always feel bad for spending their money to be social so I never did anything
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:20 PM
1

I work in healthcare. Volunteered some this summer to assist in supervising underprivileged children doing summer activities to give them a positive experience and outlet. Returned a wallet I found in the road Cat sit a couple times for an 80 year old lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:04 AM
2

I have to admit I have found myself attracted to the “bimbo” look and style somewhat atleast in my porn viewing habits. My theory is because this is a woman whose entire being has been made to be sexually pleasing and a rousing. But that’s just my theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 04:56 AM
12

This is it. It’s someone who encourages her to get out of her shell and do the naughty secret things she doesn’t want to admit she wants to do to her friends and family. And the best part of it is for her she can totally just blame any fallout from her behavior on the guy. Compare this to the manic pixie dream girl who is used to break a guy out from his shell and encourage him to live his life how he wants while alleviating some of the pressure of the trial and experimentation phase of learning…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:16 PM
3

This sounds kind of like the male version of hiding body count
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 06:47 PM
2

This is basically me. I’m 36. I had trouble when I was 26 and before. Instead of working on it I threw myself into working for the next teen years weekend nights and I never developed that side of myself. Now I’m trying to lose weight and learn to dare
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/22 09:20 PM
1

I think it is very important as these are fundamental developmental years. I feel that I fell behind here and that delay just snowballed throughout my life. These are the years to notice children having developmental delays in any aspect of life and to get them help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 03:17 PM
2

This makes it appear as though getting a spouse is not a good deal Unless you first got to experience wild adventures with short term partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:19 AM
1

It seems that when red pill men try to say they expect mutual respect and good treatment in a relationship they get accused of being “transactional”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/22 02:16 AM
1

One of my earliest memories of trying to succeed with women was going to the clubs in the big city near me. All these guys with fancy clothes and cars. Many of them worked jobs not much better than my entry level Walmart job. I guess you can make credit card debt look good. I was conservative with my money and unfortunately I looked it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 01:17 AM
1

I have a male friend who makes this work but he is a tall veteran medical doctor so certainly not the standard
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/22 12:17 PM
1

Don’t bawl your eyes out and be an emotional mess to a woman. Got it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 09:57 PM
2

I’m afraid this is where I have to take a page from the women’s playbook and say it depends on your personal choices and the correct answer is if that time is authentic to you. Since the question was asked in a gendered manner I will answer it the same way. If you make him wait longer as a means to make him think differently about you then you are being inauthentic. If you make him wait and then hook up with someone else when the date is over you are being inauthentic. Both genders appreciate au…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:10 AM
1

Men acting inauthentically bait with the idea of a relationship to get casual sex. Women behaving inauthentically bait with sex to try to achieve a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 01:06 AM
1

I was religious until a hot Methodist chick on a travel assignment recently came and talked scripture with me for hours And then I found out she fucked the hot atheist dude just like all the secular girls. So I’m pretty down on the whole god thing. Nobody believes in that shit or we wouldn’t be where we are now
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/22 12:57 AM
3

It sounds like women are making choices in how and who they hook up with that leads to them having sex lives that are full and yet unfulfilling
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:05 PM
2

I’m sure you meant less risk averse. I mean yeah it’s hard. I know PUA used to encourage “sarging” which is just going out and talking to as many women as possible. It’s a sad problem I suffer from. The more socially underdeveloped I was the less I socialized making it worse. I’m sure the same has happened to many men and I know it breeds bitterness. Not sure how I and others could have been helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:03 PM
5

I mean it’s a solution but maybe not a good one. How can we help these men? What has helped me is having a female friend as a sounding board and just more contact with women on a friends basis
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:42 PM
3

I mean maybe. I’ve seen various diverse flavors of this thing. Mgtows and incels and what not. Rollo Tomassi. It seems pretty cynical to me. It would be hard to respect women after all that. I wish we had a better movement for helping men deal with these issues
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:37 PM
2

I’m not going to weigh in on whether it’s dumb or not. But ultimately we have a bunch of men who are ultimately unsuccessful with dating who are online coping with this in some fashion. Sometimes by learning how to be more successful in the dating market Sometimes by improving on themselves And sometimes just to gain catharsis and lick their wounds from their own failures on the sociosexual marketplace Ultimately the question becomes how can we best help these men in general and integrate them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 10:25 PM
3

I actually agree with this post. With the caveat that the friendship is actually a true friendship and not one party leading the other party on or the other party always hoping to finally break that wall. If a man can make a true friendship out of these situations I feel it would be to his benefit. As a 36m trying to improve my social skills I feel this would be of benefit to me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 03:29 PM
2

I disagree. I would think redpill argues they SHOULD be related but modern women’s behavior exposes them as not being related and thus men need to learn to separate them in their minds. Further the redpill often argues that a woman who has divorced these two values fully in their mind will often not be reliable as a long term partner because of the road blocks she has built over time between these two values.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/22 07:04 PM
1

I think whether or not your getting dates/sex is a major benchmark of social performance. If it’s wrong it probably indicates a bunch of other social problems
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 08:13 PM
1

Weight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 02:33 PM
0

I don’t see why everyone is invalidating his relationship. We can choose to identify with whatever pronouns we like and I respect that. Let him call his relationship with his partner whatever he likes. So long as both parties consent I don’t see why everyone is hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 01:14 PM
2

I wanted a relationship all my young life as a “nice guy” (no problem admitting I was one). Now older, dealing with my enmeshment trauma, and losing weight I’m not so sure. I mean I always thought I wanted a wife and kids, but now dealing with this did I really want that or was that just something I was trying to bargain sex and a relationship with because that is all I saw as me being able to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/22 03:02 AM
0

Bro just think of how all this should could have been handled it high school if women’s natural behavior tended towards honesty in these regards: Nice guy: finally works up courage to ask out that first girl in his life who told him he was a nice guy. Nice guys crush: oh sorry you’re just too fat and you have no life of your own which I find boring Nice guy: goes through the pain of rejection and fixes himself. Gets a different gf Instead you gas light the fuck out of these dudes and wonder why …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:47 AM
2

I was actually just watching videos on nice guy syndrome and wondering if this whole thing could have been better and more quickly addressed if women had been more honest and direct in stating what they desired in men as romantic and sexual partners. They face risk of danger when rejecting men and previously social judgement so their lack of directness is understandable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 04:38 AM
1

At that age you’re just looking for someone to go hiking and shit with so you won’t be alone
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/22 02:54 AM
0

I wonder if picking CEOs and celebrities for these data points may not be productive as they are outliers to the general populations they are being used to represent?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 03:28 PM
7

I actually kind of agree with this. Men see women as sluts or wives. Women see men as hot fucks or fathers/husbands. That is the Madonna whore complex reflected across genders. We see this in both sides ignoring aspects of their partners. Both shut down sexually on their partners because they don’t appreciate them as sexual beings as they did for the men/women they previously dated/hooked up with when they were more sexually adventurous
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/22 03:14 PM
1

I think it’s true or both sexes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/22 10:24 PM
3

I think just old strategies or attracting women have become much less successful and a lot of men including myself are having trouble adapting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:21 AM
1

I wonder why this is. I would speculate that perhaps in the past a man’s looks were less important compared to other qualities he might possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/22 03:01 AM
1

Her: “Can you think of anything else you would like to do on this trip?” Me: “no this has been great…” /sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 09:16 PM
1

I am recalling the story of Tyresius in Greek mythology. A man turned into a woman becomes one of the most famous and celebrated prostitutes in Athens.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 06:25 PM
1

I think the answer to this is at the very end of the movie Identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 03:36 PM
2

I’m obese and have few good pictures. Pics I do have are generally selfies. I’m trying to improve my grooming/dressing. Weight loss has been a long struggle for me. Recently had a knee injury which has complicated things. I’m working on it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 01:56 PM
2

I imagine it would be somewhat cathartic to these men who see themselves as sexually unsuccessful in that they are not selected to see that the people doing the selecting do not use a selection process that is perfect. That sometimes or even often they make selections that are incorrect, flawed, and sometimes immoral. I could understand how this would be relieve the emotional pain and shame they feel in being seen as undesirable by the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 02:22 PM
2

This is pretty good. I doubt much of it will ever be implemented, but it’s a good thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:07 PM
10

I lived with my parents as long as I could to save money. I certainly don’t feel that my … conservative financial decision was rewarded with a healthy romantic or sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 12:57 AM
2

I think there are a lot of complex social issues and changes going on and this has caused some upheaval and schism which is understandable. Assuredly not just one thing. I don’t think blaming the manosphere is productive as that is more of a cart before the horse thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:30 PM
2

I think a lot of this is from bad or lack of socialization during developmental years that snowballs down the road causing other life problems which just makes things worse. Especially socialization around dealing with sex, love, and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:20 PM
4

I agree that this is sometimes the case. This can fall apart for her if the man has a lot of resentment or anger from his youth where he wonders “where were you ten years ago when I was hurting?”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:04 PM
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