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I just did you Holocene oaf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:21 PM
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The natural place of OP is in the Paleolithic Age, we need to accept this and stop fighting against it. This shouldn't be controversial, it's a fact supported by 3 million years of history across the entire human species. If you don't want to marry a lame feminazi career woman, return to the prehistoric age where the division of labor was not even understood as a concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 07:07 PM
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Women didn't want to go to college and start to work to escape the oppression of domestic chores and child-rearing, they did it to escape the oppression of poverty and financial dependence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 06:58 PM
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Idk it depends on the guy. Some guys I've dated get turned on hearing about my sexual experiences. With others, the topic never comes up
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 03:17 PM
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It's called decision making under risk. You make safe bets when the bet is your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 11:37 PM
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You don't seem to understand the point of therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:52 PM
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That’s retarded. Everyone can benefit from therapy, especially people suffering from mental illness, which exists on a spectrum of severity. There’s a big difference between a violent paranoid schizophrenic and a person who struggles with stress or self-image. I 100% applaud anyone who wants to better him or herself. I view therapy as an indication of healthy self-awareness which so many people lack. I’ve dated a few men who would have benefitted so much from therapy but were reluctant because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/21 12:57 AM
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One of those phenomenons I’ve only ever seen reported on the internet and never IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 09:05 PM
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Kind of reminds me of the general rhetoric around women’s issues. “These are our wives, sisters, mothers, daughters.” Framed that way, it appears some men can’t conceive of the humanity of women without direct reference to how it affects men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/21 08:28 PM
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Idk I’m a huge depraved high libido slut and I would not have it any other way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:33 AM
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Sure ETA I have not received anything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 04:38 PM
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I somehow doubt this is true. “Looks don’t matter bby, that’s why I’m with you!” Like what lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 01:02 PM
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Where did this myth originate from that women don’t care about looks? Why are men so disillusioned by women being literal human beings subject to all the shallowness and bad behavior of human beings at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 12:07 PM
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Thanks for posting. So much of RP is r/badeconomics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 12:44 PM
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Lmao what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/21 09:53 PM
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For so long, men have not recognized women as human beings. They become disillusioned when they learn that women are in fact subject to all of the biases and crappy behavior of human beings at large. The RP/incel movement is a manifestation of this disillusionment. Human beings are shitty. It isn't a gendered thing. The reason why women's flaws appear to be "glossed over" is most likely due to the women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:47 PM
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I didn’t call you dense, I said you were spiteful. If you believe women don’t face substantive gender-based issues then, yes, you are necessarily dense. Funny how I express frustration at something and your instinct is to reply, “Well, women do it too!” proving my last point. Like, what about my statement implied that women don’t do the same thing to men? All I said was that I personally sympathize with men here and I am not met with the same sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:23 PM
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You don’t get to dictate how hard someone else has it. You have no idea what women go through, so why are you speaking as an authority on the female struggle? I don’t pretend to understand that I know what it feels like to be a man. I don’t make qualitative judgments about the male experience, and I especially don’t compare it to my own experience as a woman. While I can’t empathize with a lot of what men go through, I can and do exercise sympathy. It’s not a male and female thing, it’s just a d…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:08 PM
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u/PPDMods, really?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:31 PM
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I don't know why some men here believe there is a finite supply of suffering and one can only suffer at the expense of another person's suffering. Sexlessness is a joke compared to other afflictions that exist all around the world. Does that mean that men shouldn't be allowed to be upset over sexlessness? Are your problems invalid because somebody has it worse?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 08:27 PM
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I mean I can provide a simple proof by contradiction by sharing the fact that I’ve had experiences that are inconsistent with this RP narrative, disproving that it is “100% true.” But to dig deeper into it, the whole premise of “leagues” is faulty. If a woman has pursued two men, one better-looking than the other, and is rejected by the less good-looking man but is successful with the better-looking man, what does that say about her “league?” How do you qualify a “league” to begin with? Is partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:30 PM
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Hey, I totally get it. I think it's a good thing that when faced with negative outcomes you look inward to see what role you may have played. But taking truthful account of your shortcomings requires you to acknowledge not only where you fail but also where you succeed. In the same way you should avoid making generalizations about people, don't take an impactful experience to grossly mischaracterize yourself. A relationship failed--it doesn't mean that you're a failure. Keep your head up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:48 PM
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I'm sorry you had negative experiences with women. I've had negative experiences with men. Your experiences have shared a pattern as have mine. However, I don't conclude from a handful of bad experiences with men that "all men are horrible." It's natural to extrapolate meaning from a recurrent pattern to inform your understanding of the world, but I would encourage you to resist that temptation here. Generalizations may be useful in decision-making, but when applied to people dehumanize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:52 PM
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I will give you the benefit of doubt here and assume you are being spiteful instead of the alternative, which is that you are incredibly dense. If you truly believe women face no substantive gender-based difficulties, I really don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:30 PM
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I 100% agree that the lack of empathy goes both ways. I think men and women both underestimate the gender-based difficulties faced by the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:28 PM
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It really isn't, but you are clearly determined to preserve all of your convictions and posted this CMV in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:25 PM
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I never stated what difficulties I was referring to, and I certainly wasn't saying "women's difficulties are that they have trouble finding the one."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 03:10 AM
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I mean, the same thing could be said for men? I don't really understand your point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 02:42 AM
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I'm so sick of the RP narrative that women who get used by men for sex are at fault because they are batting "out of their league." The projection is so, so transparent. I seriously see men here tripping over themselves in haste to respond to any woman who faces difficulty in dating with, "Well, you must not be as desirable as you think you are." It's like some sort of revenge fantasy to successfully knock a woman down a few pegs. ETA my thoughts on the rest of the OP. No one is denying that hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 01:31 AM
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In making any decision, people seek to 1) understand what their options are and 2) determine which option is best so that they can 3) pursue what’s best based on their assessment. Hypergamy is just an extension of rational decision theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:57 AM
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To what extent does the height of a man affect his attractiveness? It's hard to isolate height from attractiveness, but it matters. Taller men are more noticeable IRL. What is your minimum cutoff point for height? When I was doing OLD, probably like 5' 7". But I found myself automatically seeking the height criteria and spending more time exploring profiles where the height is >6'. I don't have a height cutoff IRL. What range of height is the most attractive on a man to you? For OLD, >6'. It mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 04:06 AM
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I believe that, assuming humanity survives long enough as a species and no major disasters set back our technological progress, the work of the future will be high-level intellectual and interpersonal work Bold of you to assume automated labor will lead to increased human potential and not widespread destitution and exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:48 PM
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I 1000% support any choice a man makes to feel more confident in himself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:37 PM
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See my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:34 PM
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It's called virtue signaling and it's not related to gender
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 04:13 PM
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Thanks for sharing!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 04:43 PM
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it's not about leverage for sex ​ you pay because if you want this pussy, you gotta pay ​ ​ That being the case, the types of men that will go through these lengthsto appease women are men that are only after what you're offering,which is pus*y ​ ​ "my vagina is what's on the table here and you have to pay if you want to get in." Rly confused. I thought men were supposed to be the champions of logic or something? Maybe you're letting your emotions cloud your reasoning?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:45 AM
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I appreciate your honesty. I'm sure some of these women, after sensing your waning interest, ask you what's going on. Are you typically forthcoming and honest with them? I ask because, in my experience, whenever I've sensed a guy losing interest, none of them were anywhere close to being able to admit, "I'm just not super into you." They've always blamed work or had some other non-reason. I assume that they thought that sharing the truth would dampen their chances of future sex? Or they didn't w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:30 AM
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You honestly think that paying means anything? Or that either party think paying means anything? Lmao what? Your entire post is is about the significance of paying. The very next sentence of your comment is a description of what payment means for both parties involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 10:12 PM
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Can you share what you mean by “a lot going on?” I ask because I honestly think I'm pretty cool by my standards, but I can definitely see that I am a huge fucking nerdy loser by other standards. I work as a software engineer in a blue chip company, am going to grad school for machine learning, have diversified interests and undertake tons of creative projects (making music, 3d art and graphics, video game dev). As an example, my most involved project at the moment is the creation of a digital su…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 09:54 PM
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How is "not committing to a person you are not involved with sexually or otherwise" at all equivalent to "committing to a person with whom you have an intimate relationship with" lmao. Also the primary complaint isn't about having so many options, it's about having a lack of options. Existing is not the requisite criteria for being considered an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:45 PM
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So much frustration and disappointment could be averted if men just understood that women are, first and foremost, human beings
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:35 PM
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What? Every single woman I know will, on principle, always offer to go dutch. I know a few women who demand it. Sometimes it's because they don't want the man to use "paying for dinner" as leverage for sex, but I would say the prevailing reason is because it's just common courtesy to split the expenses of a shared experience whether that experience is with a friend, family member, or date.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 08:30 PM
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Agreed. I don’t know why we can’t discuss the challenges faced by men and women in dating without pitting them against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:04 PM
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No one is deferring to any self-proclaimed misogynist who can't spell religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/21 03:54 PM
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People who complain about downvotes are so cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 06:03 PM
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Again, if you know mathematics, it's trivial that discrete math appears in probability and vice versa. Every subject in math appears in other subjects, that's how math works. The discrete math course mandated by CS is largely propositional logic and set theory--at least it was at my school. I don't recall doing any probability in discrete math. Discrete math appears in introductory probability in the form of combinatorics and discrete probability distributions. But you don't learn set theory or …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:24 PM
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I absolutely had no interest in "lording" my academic credentials over someone, because I agree it's not a good argument. I only mentioned it here because he brought up the discrete math bit to try and lord it over me first. It was just so, so satisfying to dunk on him, I couldn't help myself. And yes, fuck Leetcode. I think I'm a pretty mediocre programmer tbh. I enjoy math way more than programming. Part of why ML is attractive as a career is because you don't necessarily have to be the best p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:10 PM
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A lot of men on here writing thinly-veiled homoerotica. RP men love Marcus Aurelius, don't they? Gay sex was rampant in Ancient Greece. Don't let modern taboos hold you back, you should get yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:54 PM
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Yes, every subject in mathematics is interconnected with one another. That doesn’t mean that taking a course in probability is equivalent to taking a course in discrete math. They are taught as separate subjects for a reason. Also—do you do math? A large portion of probability is continuous functions, which by definition does not involve discrete math. ETA: I responded before reading your links because I actually know what the fuck I’m talking about. Neither of the links you provided suggest dis…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:31 PM
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Discrete math 😂😂 I’m not saying CS-mandated discrete mathematics is baby math, but I am. If you knew anything about mathematics, you would know that discrete math and probability are not at all similar subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:10 PM
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Lmaooo “I took discrete math” I double majored in applied math and CS and I’m currently doing a graduate degree in ML. But pls go off. Do you need a picture? I really feel like some men in this thread would benefit from an illustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:04 PM
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It’s not an assumption, it’s math. Math is offensive sometimes, it happens. You can believe women have “unrealistic standards” for determining whether or not a man is physically attractive, but the truth is physical attraction is largely biological. Can you control which women you think are physically attractive and which ones you don’t? Can you make yourself physically attracted to an objectively ugly woman? Why does the Chad ideal exist? All of the points you mentioned can be very easily expla…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:28 PM
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The way some black-pilled men thirst over Adonis-level hot guys certainly makes it seem as if they are sexually attracted to them. I mean, gay sex was rampant in Ancient Greece. Sodomy is a modern taboo. You do you, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:13 PM
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Sure, my entire post is pure conjecture based on the experiences I’ve had which represent an infinitesimally small subset of human experiences overall. Nothing scientific about it at all. I do believe that if we asked a large population of men and women to rate the appearance of other men and women based on photographs, my theory would be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:07 PM
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Should’ve asked for nudes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:41 PM
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Really appreciate you being kind and respectful, it goes such a long way. I'm actually arguing against what you say here. Let's say we ask men and women to rate the appearance of other women and men, respectively. I think the average for a man would be lower than the average for a woman, let's say (random numbers) 4 and 6. The average man may believe he is a 5 because he is in the average for his distribution. However, his actual physical attractiveness is actually a 4. This is why looksmatching…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 08:32 PM
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That’s really interesting about the chemistry thing! It definitely rings true for me as well. Most of my boyfriends weren’t men I’d see and think, “Damn, I wanna fuck him.” But meeting them in person, the attraction grew organically to where I absolutely looked at them and thought, “Damn, I wanna fuck him.” Your point could also explain why men struggle so much more with OLD, because they don’t have the IRL opportunity to build chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:40 PM
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Everything here is my own judgment. There is absolutely nothing scientific about my post. It’s only what I’ve come to believe from my lived experiences, which represent an extremely narrow slice of life, that the sample size of women I’ve seen just appear to be more attractive than the sample size of men. Also, super commend you for saying, “I am wrong.” I don’t think I’ve ever read that sentence anywhere on Reddit. It was quite shocking.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:33 PM
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The man stated he prefers men. The woman did not state her preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:27 PM
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I would think most women don’t think men are garbage just because they don’t meet their standards. Reasonable women will believe that a man she rejects will be a good enough option for someone else, so I didn’t think this was something that needed clarification, but it’s possible the men here do not understand this. I can’t speak for all women, but I’ll speak for myself. I believe meeting someone is ultimately up to chance. It’s just a personal philosophy I hold, that randomness rules everything…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 06:20 PM
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I’m a straight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:42 PM
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One bisexual woman who didn’t state her preference and one bisexual man who prefers men both agreed with my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:40 PM
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I was referring to the myth of “women aren’t shallow.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:37 PM
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Men balding in their 20’s may think they age like fine wine, but the truth is age degrades everyone’s looks. Because the socialization aspect of beauty, I would actually argue that women age better than men. Every woman I know takes immaculate care of her skin. I don’t know a single guy in my life that wears sunscreen everyday, much less uses vitamin C serums or retinols.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:28 PM
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Nope, everything is a total postulation. I believe there are studies showing that women rate more than 50% of men as “below average,” so that’s something I try to explain in this my casual non-scientific take.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:25 PM
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Good math
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:23 PM
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Sure, I think it’s in large part socialized. If men were raised to care about their looks as much as women are we would see the gap close.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:23 PM
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I’m a woman lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:22 PM
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There is a bisexual man and a bisexual woman who responded both agreeing with my post. Obviously it is a tiny sample but I thought it was worth mentioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:21 PM
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Hypothetically, you could take a very large sample size of women and men and ask them to rate a large sample size of photos of other men/women. I would be really interested to see if this theory is true because I believe some studies show women rate less than 50% of men as “average.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:19 PM
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Totally fair. I think its partly biological but definitely mostly socialized. If men were socialized to care about their looks as much as women are I think we would see this gap close.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:17 PM
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Do you know what a sample space is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:16 PM
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My edit: I really can’t belabor the point anymore. The average of a distribution is not the average of the sample space. Being average doesn’t mean you’re a 5 just because the scale goes up to 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:21 AM
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I know the difference between objective and subjective, please don’t try to be demeaning when I’ve tried to be respectful. Whether or not beauty is objective or subjective is controversial and the fact is there is no conclusive truth to the matter, so we can agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 11:20 AM
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Maybe it was a poor choice on my part to use the word attractiveness when what I meant was physical beauty. It’s true that I’m able to identify if a man is objectively physically good-looking even if he is not personally attractive to me. I assume you’re able to distinguish between good-looking and ugly men despite having no attraction to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:46 AM
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I picked numbers close to 5 one lower than the other to illustrate my point. Honestly, as a lifelong thin woman with lifelong thin friends, I forget about the existence of fat women. Not in a belittling way, I literally just don’t see them very often. So you raise a very good point. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:41 AM
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Sure, that's an important point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:33 AM
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I believe that romantic attraction is a complex and subjective thing, however, my OP is limited to physical beauty only, which I do believe is largely objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:29 AM
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If you would like make the point that there is a 1-1 looksmatch for every man and woman, please do a better job of making that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 10:11 AM
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I disagree that most women don't know their SMV. I know many attractive women and some not-so-attractive women and their lived experiences could not be more starkly different. It's obvious to an unattractive woman that she is unattractive, especially if she has any attractive friends. The average woman at a 5 doesn't pursue a 7 because she thinks he is her equal, she pursues him because he is attractive. The stakes are so low with OLD. Assuming you are average, do you only swipe right on women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:58 AM
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Thanks for sharing your personal experience. As a petite woman with no tits or hips to speak of, I can say I've never had trouble attracting men. So I don't think it's fair to compare flat women to short men because short men undeniably have it harder. I really hope social attitudes change so that men pursue beautification as freely as women do. I think the dating market would stabilize a little bit, which is good for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:52 AM
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I am speaking of objective attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:36 AM
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I personally believe beauty is objective and therefore not relative. If you believe beauty is subjective, sure, my post could be totally off the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:35 AM
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Like a woman has to actively try to be unattractive (could be average not necessarily hot), while most people think the default for men is to be unattractive and it is only something a minority overcome. Why would this be the case if my post were untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:33 AM
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I think it's pretty cool that you know what a full beat is. I don't think any man I know knows what a full beat is haha
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:33 AM
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Totally a toss-up opinion. I really don't understand where this myth came from that women aren't shallow, but enough men have repeated it for me to believe it's real and widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:28 AM
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Please reread my post. Both men's looks and women's looks are distributed normally, but the distribution says nothing of absolute values. If the male average is 4 and the female average is 6 then it follows that there will be less objectively attractive men than objectively attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:19 AM
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Since we're speaking solely on physical attractiveness, yes, the judgment is necessarily shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:10 AM
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I don't disagree with this at all. I think things kinda suck for men and women for different reasons. Women are viewed as inherently valuable. However, their value is largely tied to their looks. Looks are randomly bestowed, immutable (barring plastic surgery), and degrade over time with no real recourse. Men are not born with inherent worth. Their value is tied to what they are able to achieve. It sucks that men are not considered inherently valuable, but the upside is that their value is mutab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:08 AM
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I can see how my post could read “there are no good men out there” vs “there are good men but they don’t meet my standards.” But functionally, I’m not sure it makes a huge difference. I would think that it doesn’t mean a whole lot to a man for a woman to consider him “a good option, but not good enough for me.” I think we have to point out the difference between women who viciously blame the world for their problems and lack any self-awareness about their situation vs. women who simply have a di…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:01 AM
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Thank you for your response. I believe this is the universal experience of men and women--people don't want to settle. I don't really understand why men feel this is something women need to "admit." Of course men and women will pass on perfectly sufficient options if they believe there is something better out there, is this not self-evident? (Asking the men who read this lol.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 05:23 AM
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That’s interesting. I’m a woman who is open about my dating preferences, but I never considered that being candid was a privilege. Thank you for your response, it gives me something to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:39 AM
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Lol, it turns out the guy meant exactly what he said.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 03:00 AM
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I have a lot of sympathy for men who struggle with dating. Except for you. I hope women continue to place you out of the market and you never perpetuate the genes that led you to be this enormously stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:57 AM
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What qualifies as a good job? Are there career-oriented men or are they too living vicariously through their work?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:54 AM
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What are the other options?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:23 AM
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Yup, I misread the original comment. Oh, you’re OP. Do you have any additional thoughts on my response?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:20 AM
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Nope, if you’d like additional info, it’s all readily available online. Relationships should be equal in the sense that both partners should be satisfied with how much they are giving/receiving and how much their partner is giving/receiving. You go about this by communicating with your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:17 AM
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Um, absolutely not. I don’t know why you believe there is a finite pie of suffering. I believe the average man has more difficulty than the average woman in finding a partner—that doesn’t mean women’s difficulties don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:08 AM
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Okay, I actually added meaningful to give you the benefit of doubt. If you truly believe pretty women have nothing to do but find partners, I’m afraid that you’re so far gone it wouldn’t be worthwhile to try to convince you otherwise. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 02:01 AM
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Please point out where I said women have it harder than men. You are welcome to refer to my original post or any of my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 10:19 PM
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I commend her for responding but I wouldn’t characterize her admission as “brave.” It’s just common sense. People like to see what their options are before making any decision. Both men and women usually date around before committing. I mean, what is even the alternative narrative here? That women commit to any available option?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:57 PM
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Okay, that’s valid. I asked for clarification because I’ve seen tons of misogynistic discourse on Reddit, and I wouldn’t put it past some (a minority of) men to truly believe finding a husband is the only meaningful thing women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:37 PM
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What makes a man a “perfectly good option” to a woman? Is it not true that both men and women usually date a few people before marrying? Why do people go through the trouble to date around if there are “perfectly good” options to commit to right away?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:33 PM
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I really don’t understand why all the men here posit themselves as experts on what women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 09:23 PM
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Discounting what percentage of women you think are pretty, you believe the only thing pretty women have to do in life is choose a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:43 PM
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Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:18 PM
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Do you really believe this or are you using hyperbole?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:14 PM
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Criticize career-oriented women. Bemoan gold-diggers. Please choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 08:01 PM
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I mean, I completely agree with you. If men were taught to value their looks as much as women are, we would see less of this disparity in gender-based attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:58 PM
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Sorry, didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:44 PM
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I agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:24 PM
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Why does the quote imply that there is a dichotomy of only "dirty hot dogs" and "freshly grilled" hot dogs? I agree with you that there is a wide variety of hot dogs, and I don't think that the quote makes an implication to the contrary. Let's just be honest and say that women want a menu only with the things that they like on it and aren't really willing to settle for what's available. Again, I agree with you here. It's trivial that people prefer to have what they want than to compromise with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:20 PM
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I think part of the incongruity that exists in online dating for men and women can be explained by the fact that the average woman is more attractive than the average man. Women are taught from an early age to mind their appearances, and it is more socially acceptable for them to enhance their physical features be it with makeup or plastic surgery. That's why when men complain that women only rate 20% of men as attractive, I think it's necessary to consider that it has less to do with a woman's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 07:09 PM
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You're literally just repeating my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:50 PM
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Lmao if you had any insight, you would understand what a metaphor was and why it's employed. Deserve something better than what? What "levels" are we speaking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:49 PM
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Where can one find this queue?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:45 PM
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This take is truly laughable. Just because a woman has "options" doesn't make any of those options desirable. "Don't complain that you're hungry when there's a perfectly good hot dog on the ground." In addition, being a woman and having known and had personal relationships with multitudes of women throughout my life, I can guarantee you many of them are incredibly introspective and have very rich inner lives. In fact, I would posit that women are more comfortable with and tend to seek higher lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 06:02 PM
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If women didn't want this then the majority of women would be fine with the guy not paying for the date (majority of women do) and be happy being the breadwinner themselves ( a lot of them are not happy being one). Lmao I love how you project yourself as an authority on "what women want" and try to assert it over all of the actual women responding in the comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:31 PM
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100% this has been my experience as well. My sister is the primary breadwinner of the house. She makes 4x what her husband does when he is working (out of work past 7 years to go to law school). She also does 90% of the housework and 80% of the child-rearing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:08 PM
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Um, not sure where you have been for the last 50 years but women have been pursuing financial independence as soon as they were able to. Many colleges didn’t accept female students well into the 70’s and today, college-educated women outnumber college-educated men. Women took the initiative. However, I don’t see very many men clamoring to do housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 03:56 AM
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Something tells me you haven’t had a lot of relationships. Snooping around someone’s home, contacting their friends and family, or seeking out their medical history is a HUGE invasion of privacy. These are things you learn only with time and mutual trust. Like, what the actual fuck? You really think these things are a normal part of dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 02:19 PM
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So... do you prefer women who marry for resources or do you resent them? Kind of unclear
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:22 PM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:18 PM
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I actually never see body positivity shit on Reddit unless it’s being made fun of. Most of the visible opinions I see are very one-sided in male favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 01:06 PM
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I don’t understand. In your OP you state dating is unfair for both sexes and for different reasons, yet in all the comments you are arguing that dating is worse for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/21 12:55 PM
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This may be shocking to you but women exist and have lives outside of their romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 05:50 PM
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V reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/21 01:26 PM
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This is so true. I have always said that in some ways it is good to be a woman because you are born with your worth, and you don’t have to toil to be a worthwhile person. But your worth (looks) is largely fixed, immutable, and bestowed totally randomly. It is very difficult to transcend your lot in life. In some ways it is better to be a man. A man’s value is mutable and flexible. He can always achieve more value. At the same time, it sucks that men are not seen as being born with inherent value…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:49 PM
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Are you dense? This statistic reflects the widely known fact that violent crime is more likely to be perpetrated by someone the victim knows than by a stranger. “Someone the victim knows” could literally be anyone. Here are some other fun facts I picked up perusing your cited source for 30 seconds: According to police-reported data, about 173,600 women aged 15 years and older were victims of violent crime in 2011. This translates into a rate of 1,207 female victims for every 100,000 women in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/21 04:37 PM
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This is so fucking dumb. I had plenty of casual sex with no expectations beyond sex simply because I enjoy it and wanted to do it. There was no covert psychological reason as to why I chose attractive sex partners... These are the mental gymnastics men perform when trying to “understand” women that paints them to be much more complex people than they are. Women are human beings and sex is a pleasurable biological imperative for both sexes. WOMEN GET HORNY WOMEN WANNA FUCK TOO
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:54 AM
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Honestly, I like your take on this. I think it’s fair, and the point you made that women can fulfill their “having novel sexual experiences” quota more quickly than men is certainly reflected in their relationship choices later down the line, with women seeking commitment sooner than men do. I would only add that your first point about women “not wanting to admit to themselves” that they have sexual desire is totally untrue (just based on my experience as a woman with a lot of female relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 10:48 AM
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This guy does not fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:58 PM
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This guy fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 03:58 PM
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Is honesty heroic or is it a basic value of any decent human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:37 PM
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Getting sport fucked by hot guys is my fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/21 12:31 AM
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I don't disagree with what you're saying here. I think women enjoy a certain natural privilege. But in your previous comment, you implied that women have an inherent, immutable value of X by virtue of being a woman. That's different and contradictory to what you're stating here, which is that a woman's value is the net sum of a number of different factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:34 PM
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How can you ask this question in good faith when this sub has made it blatantly clear that neither gender understands the experience of the other gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:59 PM
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This metaphor absolutely makes sense. Doesn't a woman's value diminish in direct correlation with the number of sex partners she has?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:57 PM
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Maybe men like women more than women like men 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:52 AM
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This take is really stupid for several reasons but the most salient truth you conveniently disregard is that women face pressure under time much more than men do. Women who want to start families are under a biological deadline that falls pretty early in life, notwithstanding the cultural and social expectations to marry by a certain age. This pressure is exacerbated by the fact that in terms of sheer numbers, dating is a men’s market, disincentivizing men into “settling down.” Finally, just bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/21 09:01 PM
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