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Agreed. The culture wars is largely a psy op. You ever seen those threads on r/askreddit or in a left-leaning online space where someone asks what conservative talking points people agree with? The top answers are often “I don’t think all white people are racist” or “it’s not excusable to bash men all the time” or “really old tweets shouldn’t cost you your job”. Just really, obvious and normal opinions framed as some sort of rebellion against what the left stands for. Most people don’t really be…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:27 AM
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1) men place a lot of value on whether they’re dating or having sex with attractive women. Starts just before high school and lasts a big chunk of their life. A lot of social ostracizing happens to men who can’t find connection with the opposite sex. There’s a lot of fear and shame in virginity - reinforced by other men and women. Think about how popular insults to men are related to a lack of sexual success (small dick, incel etc) 2) social media is a cesspit of men and women putting each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 12:51 AM
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Urumova was charged with one count each of false alarm to an agency of public safety and tampering with or fabricating physical evidence, two counts of false reports and three counts of unsworn falsification to authorities. Good. Also would support adjusting the wording around “false imprisonment” and/or “kidnapping” slightly so it would extend to situations like this and she could be charged appropriately.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:41 AM
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The "recourse" would be limited to the courts opting to not enforce the contract. But no crime has been committed here, and if you make a transaction while you're drunk you're not going to get your money back. The women you’re talking about aren’t arguing that it’s a crime, they’re arguing it should be. And if there’s an accepted legal framework that drunkenness does not equal consent, especially when the sober person has motive behind getting you drunk, why would it be unreasonable to escalate …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:37 AM
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First point - The law does not empower people to get someone drunk in order to influence them. If I ply you with alcohol and have you sign a contract for instance, you will have recourse against me. The dynamic of a sober person and a drunk person having sex is often this. Second point - Its not universally accepted, but generally speaking many (most?) people believe that two drunk people having sex is not rape. Third point - One sober person having sex with a drunk person that has not tried to …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 01:57 AM
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Counterpoint: Reliability - why are national child support arrear bills in the billions? Logic - why do men spend their hard earned income on bath water and used underwear? Strength - why is the male suicide rate so high? Maybe this is a false binary?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:14 AM
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How is not being hot the same as using someone for a green card?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:10 AM
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I’m a straight woman so I will admit I’m not in the target audience. I’ve also never seen a woman reject a man based on height but I know it happens, so I do think I can be objective about this stuff. And I feel sure this isn’t a widespread attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 06:43 AM
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One has absolutely nothing to do with the other dude. Women largely don’t say “fuck me since I’m hot.” Men are completely free to decline sex with women who wear make up, just as women decline sex with men they’re not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:21 AM
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Remember, women are dramatic by nature, so when a man is perfect, he denies her the drama she craves. When she’s with her fellow women, all they’re talking about is the drama the men in their lives bring. Now she’ll feel left out because she’s got no drama to talk about Very scientific source you’ve got there to explain away a random anecdote from the celebrity world. I’ve got some of my own.The conclusive theory of why men suck from the highly respected HelloGiggles.com and Not all men suck but…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 11:54 PM
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It has to be one or the other because the speech as it stands doesn’t really have good examples. Except maybe the “talk to women” bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:27 PM
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So … is the point of this post to draw attention and discuss social pressures on men or is it to show the speech was silly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 11:06 PM
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Be confident, but don't be cocky! Have a good job and be a good provider, but don't work too much and neglect your family! Listen to her feelings, but don't try and fix anything! Be masculine, but don't engage in toxic masculinity!" There’s nothing really wrong with this bit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:53 PM
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Why’s that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:34 AM
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It’s exactly the same thing. Both demographics are unattractive and lonely. The only difference is older women manage to be sad without degrading themselves as much. Ya’ll could learn something from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:11 AM
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Plenty of things are women’s fault. This is not one of them. Obviously, there are less women behaving like sad weirdos than men, but if you look at a similar dynamic (say old ladies paying for the company of young men) I wouldn’t blame that on male escorts either - even though the demographic they sell to is also lonely and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 05:01 AM
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May be true. Less stupid to profit off your old smelly clothes than it is to buy panties because a woman wore them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:51 AM
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No, not like sexually promiscuous women because of “phonological harm” is a made up argument based on nothing. You must think men are brain dead. Fair enough. There’s a lot of evidence for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:50 AM
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Why psychological harm caused by women's sexuality goes unpunished in society unlike physical harm causes by men's physical strength. This is just not reality. Men giving half their wages to women selling bath water and used underwear is not women’s fault. You just don’t have any self respect and can’t be bothered to get any. Sort yourselves out, you’re embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 04:44 AM
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No, we “don’t” know. Who you have a crush on is random and sometimes it’ll be your attractive mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 11:07 AM
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I don’t think so. I’d argue that women are just less likely to ask out male friends and cause the “friendzoning” to begin with. The crush is still there, but taking “action” on it might not necessarily be.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 05:59 AM
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But if a movie like say Forrest Gump ended with Forrest using his status and money that he achieved later on in his life, to find a woman with a higher SMV than Jenny and stopped pursuing Jenny as a result, and just go for the higher SMV woman. Would the movie be just as entertaining in a different way, or no? Probably. Audiences famously hate Jenny and likely would have loved an underdog story where Forrest ends up with a beautiful woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:12 AM
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Nah I feel I’ve done pretty well for my age actually. Partner, homeownership, degrees, job that pays well that I like doing, etc But I’m also sure my good attitude is related to the fact that most people around me haven’t ticked as many achievements off their list. Humans are competitive that way. (Or I’m just shitty)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:49 AM
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Definitely not dude. I don’t know a lot of people who wait to have sex anymore but years back I would listen to my girlies crush on men they haven’t even spoken to yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:34 AM
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I don’t think this is true. Men’s issues aren’t framed politically the way women’s are. They’re more packaged as “a fact of life” rather than something the government should do something about. Edit: men’s issues are also talked about very neutrally, because men aren’t considered a special category. Quite frankly, a lot of labor reform law, historic compensation cases for things like silicosis exposure, geopolitical conflict/war etc could very well be considered a “men’s issue” because that’s th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 07:44 AM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 12:48 PM
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Well, to play Devil's Advocate a bit, I think it's quite possible that if women started choosing mates using the exact same criteria than men do, men would adapt. So women don’t already demand men be 10 feet tall chiseled-chin millionaires? Seems I’ve been lied to
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:35 AM
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Hollywood is not a good indicator of what the average man does, but if you’re going to argue that men are worse than they used to be I won’t get into it with you because I love your conclusion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:33 AM
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Lmao. I go to the gym. Millions of people go to the gym. It’s not difficult to hop on a treadmill. You don’t have to do any of this. Yes, women can now do just as much to appeal to men as men do to appeal to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 10:30 AM
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Beauty standards for men have never been this high. It’s funny, isn’t it? This is the first time men have had to do more in courtship than just have a job and you guys don’t seem to be willing to do anymore than complain about it. I mean, sure, the gym is popular. Maybe putting on some cologne. But have you tried Botox, makeup, injections, surgeries, unhealthy dieting and the other wonders of the cosmetic industry designed to turn you into a Ken doll? Maybe we can feed this self-improvement to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 09:24 AM
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No notes, completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 02:57 PM
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And you think these men are madly in love but scared to commit after years because of her bikini pics? Just doesn’t seem likely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:19 AM
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Where are you seeing that? I haven’t looked at it since maybe a high school poli-sci class but I’m fairly certain it’s a loosely defined political philosophy about how people should be treated under the law. Anyway, I bring this up because temporarily taking on a major burden does not ruin the concept of an egalitarian relationship (even if I don’t think that’s the right word) How much an individual takes on and gives back still fluctuates in other egalitarian contexts depending on circumstance …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 05:15 AM
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I think that if a man doesn’t want to commit to a woman he just doesn’t like her that much. Same the other way around. Feelings almost always trump these online dating ideologies. When you’re not getting butterflies, suddenly you’re checking boxes of everything wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:59 AM
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You’re misconstruing the concept of egalitarianism, which probably isn’t a good descriptor for relationships anyway because it doesn’t mean people doing the same amount of work. I don’t think blue pill women believe in utopian relationships and are happy to have partners that willingly invest more when required (like during pregnancy and the postpartum period) and otherwise invest about half.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 04:47 AM
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I don’t disagree at all. But to your point about “both,” women have already been heavily discouraged from sleeping around. Men have not. So, a focus on that means both sexes feel the weight and consequences of sex and are mindful about who they do it with and under what circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:43 PM
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I don’t disagree at all. But to your point about “both,” women have already been heavily discouraged from sleeping around. Men have not. So, a focus on that means both sexes feel the weight and consequences of sex and are mindful about who they do it with and under what circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 05:43 PM
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Yeah we did. And I respect/like the mission to remove the stigma, but the changes to the dating market have been a net negative imo. Should have been a movement to discourage men from sleeping with dozens of women instead of going on about how we can do that too
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 04:17 PM
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I hate it for women actually 😭 Women bear life changing consequences for having sex. Once you remove the puritanical bullshit, previous social expectations to have sex with a good man that’s committed to you feels much safer for women than the current landscape.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 02:16 PM
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Is this research saying … A psycho man will have more children with his partner than non psycho men? Or is the research saying that psycho men in general are more likely to impregnate women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 10:50 AM
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And what societies are these? I’ve got some statistics to go and find lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:10 AM
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What gives you the impression that male/female relationships in societies without a dating culture are healthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:01 AM
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Your friends are weirdos and outliers in this scenario. It’s a vastly superior dynamic that women approach men and more women should be encouraged to do it. Especially as men increasingly feel uncomfortable approaching, given how much rhetoric there is out there of women just wanting to be left alone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:02 AM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 11:20 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:41 PM
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Please show me examples of perfect gender equality then. You are having a hard time arguing dude. That’s my point. There hasn’t been some social revolution but people’s values are changing This is not disputed. Except there has been social revolution. Just because you dismiss progress as “not enough” doesn’t mean it isn’t happening. Saying something is “not enough” does in fact imply that you have acknowledged it exists. Sure, some tradcon dudes still want a “bang maid” but that’s not even a maj…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:47 PM
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From your source The numbers prove things aren’t perfect—many dads admit things aren’t yet even in their homes (mom still does more)— but one study from 2017 found modern dads devote 30 more minutes to daily household chores than their own fathers did, and they’re spending more time with their kids than previous generations. 30 more minutes of cleaning than what used to be about zero. Lol. Nah I don’t want to rag on dads actually. There are some excellent fathers in my family, but there’s still …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:10 PM
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This is a fair explanation. You could probably make that claim about women who advertise their interest in the “princess treatment”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:39 PM
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I know what you’re talking about. But you haven’t explained yourself properly. When people say men are looking for a wife that doubles as a mother, they mean they are looking for a woman that will cook, clean and baby them. What are women looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:37 PM
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I don’t get the correlation. Women feed, bathe, clothe and clean up after their kids more than men do. So if anything, the stereotype should be that men are looking for a mother and women are looking for a mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:22 PM
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Looking for a father in what sense? The only stereotype I can think of is buying things, which women are more likely to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 02:07 PM
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Settling implies that you’re with someone because you feel you can’t do better. He’s a really likeable guy. I’m sure he could find someone prettier than me or with higher income earning potential etc. Likewise I don’t think I’m an ogre or anything. But we choose each other. I don’t think that’s settling, in the way the internet uses that word anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 01:49 PM
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It’s not weird. She just doesn’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 06:19 AM
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It leads me to conclude that most people either compromise massively most likely from fear of being alone, or don’t ask for much in a partner. People do genuinely love imperfect people. I’m obsessed with my partner. He’s not a mansion-owning neurosurgeon that looks like Henry Cavill but I don’t believe I’ve settled at all. And this is normal. So many high dating standards are completely derailed by the fact that you can’t help who you actually like. Which is the same reason so many shit people h…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:53 AM
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It’s not weird to live at home aged 19, but it’s better when your partner has their own place ofc. I think once you’re north of 25, people start making negative judgements though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:38 AM
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He can change. Being an asshole isn’t going to help him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 11:56 AM
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Nah. Average with “edge” will get you laughed at
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 10:34 AM
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I’m saying that women want to date men they’re attracted to. If they don’t find you physically attractive, being toxic is not going to help with that. If someone is physically attractive, I’m sure you’d find women who are more willing to put up with shit behavior or who think the toxicity is reminiscent of a bad boy in a TV show they saw once
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:58 AM
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Even if that’s true, do you think they’re going to like that personality style on an average looking man? Be reasonable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:47 AM
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Do you think being ugly and toxic is going to do the trick? 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:43 AM
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Try being attractive, funny and interesting before moving to “toxic.” See how that works out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 08:38 AM
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This one says women are more likely to inflict emotional violence than other forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 11:29 AM
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Lmao the very first thing I said was “find happiness outside of sexual relationships with women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 01:04 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:48 PM
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Someone explained the guy in the video was trying to look up a woman’s skirt and you questioned whether they still deserved to be posted online. The answer is yes. Creepshots are not ok because the men who post them aren’t trying to discourage nasty ass strangers from getting a good angle of their dicks. Intent matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:50 AM
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Trying to look up someone’s skirt is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:36 AM
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You seem to be under the impression that murder and killing in self defence are the same thing because both acts result in a dead body. A creep shot is not comparable to shaming someone engaged in offensive or criminal behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:32 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:28 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 05:26 AM
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Find meaning and happiness outside of sexual relationships with women. A lot of people find purpose in travelling, volunteering, making things (like woodwork) collecting degrees, writing, making friends in online communities, etc The bad feelings don’t go away immediately - or sometimes at all - but you’ll have more moments of joy and you’ll feel proud of yourself if you’re doing something interesting with your life. Just disconnect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 02:24 AM
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I completely agree. If you’re worried about paying for someone who might not be interested after, then don’t pay. Tell your date you’re going dutch and pick a place that does split bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 01:47 PM
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Being “used” for sex is no longer a valid framework to discuss having sex with someone who isn’t interested in seeing you again. Sex became culturally detached from relationships ages ago. If you want guaranteed commitment, ask someone to be your partner before you have sex. People who hook up and move on afterwards aren’t “using” anybody - whatever that actually means.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 12:07 PM
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You’re not viewing this the right way. Child support doesn’t reward women. It ensures adequate resourcing for the child. All these memes about single mothers spending their baby daddy check on their nails or whatever isn’t relevant to why child support is legislated in the first place. It is to make sure the non-custodial parent is paying for their kid in a structure where a one parent home is more likely to run into economic trouble (and therefore need State help) than a two parent home. Of cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:30 AM
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I mean, you mostly do. Two-parent households are how people survive in this economy without State assistance. You can look at the number of married couples on welfare vs singles. I already said it’s not fair to have a non-biological father on the hook for child support. I’m just explaining the reasoning behind why the law requests that both parents resource the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 12:43 AM
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A court wouldn’t enforce it in that scenario, or in a scenario where the true father is known. But otherwise yes, they do it to keep mother and kid off welfare. I do agree it’s incredibly unfair though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 03:18 PM
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Then perhaps we should make a post about the plight of French fathers. That is wrong. However, also noteworthy is that the court will order paternity in event the mother has petitioned for a child support order. So there shouldn’t be any of those wild cases where a man pays for a child he learned isn’t his, in the event of separation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:23 AM
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That doesn’t matter. As I was telling someone else, in most places you can contest paternity for a handful of years post birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:18 AM
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Cheating and becoming impregnated by a secret rape are the only ways it’s possible. The accusation is cheating, it’s just indirect. This still counts, OP. Language isn’t always explicit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:10 PM
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I’m stuck on that because cheating is the only possible way the man in question could not be the father. There is no other way to take it. And it’s absolutely ridiculous to make this assertion to your postpartum wife or girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 05:02 PM
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It’s not an issue actually. Most places allow fathers to contest parenthood for a handful of years post birth. There is ample time to discover the child isn’t yours if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:59 PM
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What’s disrespectful is implying a partner cheated just after they gave birth and are in the most mentally vulnerable state of their lives. If you want to be certain of paternity, you can quietly get answers without causing an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:54 PM
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I don’t know why people even bother asking. Swab the kids mouth when you’re alone and get the results emailed to you. Pay in cash, delete, throw the packaging in a bin up the street. Some people will say it’s unethical. Personally I think bothering a postpartum partner with unfounded nonsense is worse, but whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 04:50 PM
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Feminine and feminist are two different concepts
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 05:06 AM
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Yes. I’m sure people don’t like that phrasing, but it certainly makes sense to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:48 AM
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But that doesn’t make those traits feminine. They’re feminine and in addition to that XYZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:32 AM
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Hyperfeminity just means to exaggerate feminine qualities. This includes being nurturing, gentle, tender, affectionate, kind and empathetic. You’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:05 AM
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Confirmation bias plays into it. I think … as a society we have a tendency to assume women’s words hurt less. For instance, a wife telling her husband that he isn’t allowed to go to poker night might be thought of less insidiously as if a man had imposed himself similarly, but there’s also no shortage of people on the internet willing to check women for what they say. “Reverse the genders” is one of the most popular phrases on Reddit. I dunno about real life though. I don’t hangout with shit wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:19 AM
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That’s interesting. I’ve never actually heard a woman say something like this in person, but I’ve criticized women in my Facebook groups for opinions like this and they’ve been piled on and in some cases banned, so I suppose it depends on the company you keep, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 04:09 AM
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Can’t fail a test you didn’t take, dude. Women often implement their standards. That’s why there’s so many short guys whining on the internet. Men, however, tend to date women that don’t meet their preferences. That’s not women’s problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:55 AM
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Did you criticize these women when they made these comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 03:37 AM
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I do feel good about it. The point of blocking someone is to stop their ability to interact with you. You’re not meant to unlock someone to check what they’re saying lmao. I did say that. It’s very clearly in my comment. You were already wrong once and now you’re about to be 2/2. I’m about to show you how the block button actually works kid. Cya.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:07 PM
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Did you just block and unblock? 😂 If you’re going to be hostile and toss insults at people right off the bat, at least have the courtesy to be correct. How embarrassing for you. It correlates because I’m questioning the premise of the question, kiddo. OP alleges (in the very first sentence under their title) that men filter out promiscuous women. Whereas I think, with few exceptions, that undesirable men merely whine about it & single moms on Twitter. After all, if you’re working minimum wage yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 02:03 PM
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I say that unattractive men have to get over it or not date. I didn’t say unattractive men are unattractive because they don’t want to date women who have slept with a lot of men, which is what you claim here: That’s not true at all? You really set that up to sound like less desirable men are less desirable because they don’t like loose women? Fuck right off. Weirdo. You’re aggressively wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:10 PM
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You really set that up to sound like less desirable men are less desirable because they don’t like loose women? Directly quote where I said this. You just said I said it. Quote me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 11:03 AM
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Yes it is what I said. If you’re so confident I said something else, why don’t you directly quote me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:52 AM
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You have substandard comprehension skills. They’re undesirable because they’re unattractive and don’t have winning personalities. Attractive men with winning personalities rarely seem to care who their girlfriends have dated. I don’t see many “Chads” from Instagram or famous men using their local Mormon church to find tradwives.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:35 AM
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But then he’s essentially saying that OF should be illegal because it should be illegal. Dude is terrible every step of the way at arguing. 0/10
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 01:56 AM
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You call it a crime. Crimes are illegal activities. You can’t argue that something should be illegal because it’s a crime. That’s circular logic. Why should it be illegal?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:34 AM
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Punished by what law? You are making things up. It is not illegal to produce and distribute pornographic material. What is the comparison to gambling exactly? Is it addiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:58 AM
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Laughable. Men have been profiting off porn (and still do) and now there’s a platform that lets women cut the “pimp” out of porn production and you want it banned because … it’s a crime? Is it a crime to buy a movie with a nude scene in it? Is it illegal to buy a Playboy? Should it be? Get over it. If you want OnlyFans to collapse on itself, start telling men to stop being so pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:48 AM
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Of course they don’t. But men drive the conversation around ghosting and lash out every time someone’s ignored their Tinder messages. If you want to argue that ghosting is not abuse, start with your own gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:01 AM
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But you’ll find this is the main reason. Your post implies that women make a habit of making baseless abuse allegations, but these complaints are grounded in real neglect. Obviously, as with men, there will be narcissistic and attention seeking types that can’t stand their partner taking time away from them. But when your average woman complains of abuse in relation to their partner’s hobby - there is a reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:58 AM
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Sounds like your knowledge of what women complain about is surface level. 1) many men who play video games neglect their partners, household chores and childcare because they play several hours a day every day. The complaints arise from this. 2) The gender who cops the most shit culturally for ghosting is definitely women. This very sub hinders on an “uneven” dating market where women are favorable. Men are the primary “victims” of ghosting and men drive the discourse on it. A few complaints fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:45 AM
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Axe hiking trail, gaming communities and work. Everything else would be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 01:10 AM
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Show me the research, would love to see Dude grabbed a woman by her throat because of “attitude.” Not a guy you can trust to not “over do it” as you say
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 09:28 AM
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Most women are attracted to inmates are they? Look, I’ll tell you what: you ask your country’s corrections department for info on how much fan mail incarcerated people get (account for the fact that the same loon will send like 500 different letters), then weigh that against the female population. Come here when you’re done and I’ll give you the apology you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 08:11 AM
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Those women are shit. Shit people who are interested in other shit people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 07:38 AM
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You have to be charismatic and funny. Not “bad.” If you hurt a woman, maybe she’s a crackpot that would be attracted to you. And maybe you’ll get arrested, put on blast on social media, lose your job, friends and reputation. This is dumb as hell. Wise up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 05:31 AM
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It’s hard to answer this because similar or different, how? People who have a similar sense of humor are in for a great relationship, for instance. But two people with main character syndrome, probably not. Depends on the traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 11:00 AM
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Chronically online issue. Delete your Reddit account.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:35 AM
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This is a completely accurate observation. If you look at desirable men - from A listers to local Instagram models - none of them are dating chaste women. Sexy men don’t care about the sexual history of sexy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 04:01 PM
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Well, that depends on how unappealing the man was to begin with, right? If you missed out on the genetic lottery big time then the best advice is probably to learn to be happy with yourself. If you’re average though, you’d be surprised was better posture, a haircut and some new clothes will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 03:09 PM
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the issue with such advice is that it doesn’t tackle any of the internal issues on why many men are single and lonely, it feeds into existing issues and it misses the mark entirely. Why do you think many men are single and lonely then if not because they’re unappealing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:49 PM
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It’s hilarious how men will say this and then in their next online rant go on about how women only like deadbeat fuckboys who couldn’t hold down a job if it flew up their ass And yes, it’s the same men saying the same shit. Which is it dude? Do women like providers? Or ChAdS?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 03:53 PM
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Agreed. A lot of women don’t really like “pretty boys.” So if you’ve got the kind of male model look, that’s probably a bit off putting. And even the ones that do, good looking people who can’t manage to give off good vibes just seem so standoffish and unapproachable. People want to be with people that make them feel good. Charisma works.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 01:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:14 PM
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No, you asked me how I know that men aren’t also going their own way. I vaguely referenced studies. You found a study. I looked at it and found an aspect of it relevant to what we’re talking about, which is that more single men want to be in relationships than single women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:38 AM
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Single men are more likely than their female counterparts to be searching for romantic experiences. Great study. I agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:26 AM
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The same way I know about women going their own way? Through the endless sociological studies on this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:31 AM
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Good on you. Life improves when you get rid of all the desperate energy in it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:36 PM
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you’ve offered no alternative perspective no cherrypicking here. Happy to read any source you have where men aren’t whining their heads off about women not sleep with them. lol. I see even other people are pointing out to you that there’s no defensiveness or hysteria here. But you may as well keep saying it, it’s not like you have an argument that can make you recover your credibility anyway. shit behavior like what? Women don’t care if there’s a “situation” buddy. As I’ve already pointed out, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 11:33 PM
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Again, even if they do, it doesn’t disprove what I’m saying. There are a million and one articles about women being single and loving it. And there are a million and one articles about how no one wants men and suicide rates. Kinda seems like you = worse off. Maybe ya’ll should learn to be at peace without a romantic or sexual partner in your lives. Will do wonders for ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:40 PM
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We are I’ll indulge in your fantasy that we have an epidemic of women crying heaps before getting into a relationship or whatever. I still don’t see what that has to do with anything. We can clearly function alone better than ya’ll can. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 03:28 PM
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So men can’t help but be depressed while single huh? Stronger sex indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 01:45 PM
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1) yes you did 2) you didn’t mirror me. If you did, you’d be arguing a lot better than you’re doing. 3) what’s your position here exactly? That heaps of women are climaxing but studies are only including it when women report they got pregnant and saw God? 4) No, you did when you said that men struggle to be single because men have greater sexual urges. That can be resolved through sex services. You didn’t say men can’t stand being single because the lack of romance and flowers in their lives mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:31 PM
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Even if that’s true, it’s still irrelevant. Men can orgasm through masturbation and men have never before had such on demand access to sex services. You could find a prostituted woman right now if you wanted to. And in many places it would either be 1) legal 2) heavily decriminalized or 3) she bears the majority of legal consequences anyway, assuming police even find out about it. Men can get off whenever they want. They just resent it when women don’t fall to their knees and kiss their undesire…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:50 AM
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Repeating what I said back at me with a dismissive tone doesn’t disprove it or make it sound ridiculous. It’s a fact that some women are ugly and not desired by men. You can browse the internet for a library’s worth of stories about how horribly people are treated when they’re not good looking or average. I’m sure there’s also empirical evidence of this too, if you cared to look for it. The orgasm gap is a well studied phenomenon. It’s anatomically true that women struggle to orgasm through PIV …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 10:41 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, many women aren’t drowning in sexual offers and even the ones that are, aren’t getting their sexual urges scratched. Check out the orgasm gap. Men can “scratch” these urges whenever they like. Paid sex has never been more accessible or de-stigmatized. Even in societies where prostitution is criminalized, it’s the prostituted woman who wears majority of the legal consequences (assuming police even find out, which most of the time they wont)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 09:37 AM
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Well then you don’t know many women. Because plenty of them are happy to just masturbate or use toys. If men can’t help but behave as if they’ll die without sex, then they’ll stay exactly as they are in the world of romance and dating. Or in even a worse position as women increasingly choose to not have kids and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:32 AM
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I mean, you answered your own question - just be single. There’s a bunch of reports and surveys out there that show women increasingly decide they don’t need men to be happy and will just be single if they can’t find what they want. Whereas men who don’t find what they want question whether they can “really afford” to cut off women. I mean, yes, you can. Just de-prioritize having romance in your life. Delete your dating apps and stop your cold approaches. If you can’t be happy without trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:49 AM
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Doesn’t the million and one articles on this sub showcasing that women are in relationships and men are single disprove this theory? Women generally seem to have no issue finding a man they like that wants to be their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 07:52 AM
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Since my partner and our mates don’t have love life issues, Reddit is where I’m exposed to the most loser speech, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 12:07 PM
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And it also doesn’t take much critical thinking to understand that the outcome of men not giving a crap doesn’t prove a preference in women. Men outearning women in relationships is also a slowing trend. Breadwinning women are a growing demographic. Popular policies like paternity leave will only increase this. There’s growing rhetoric from women about not having children without their own income protection as well, so really, in future it may be that you don’t have kids unless you’re really ric…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 04:09 AM
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“Good financial prospects” is not “makes significantly more than me with higher status” though. Two very different meanings are conveyed here. The fact that men don’t care about women’s earnings is a standards failure in men. Funding a comfortable lifestyle and family is expensive and in most economies, you need two incomes to do it. Men should care that a woman can take care of herself, because quite frankly if she cant it creates and exacerbates all the other problems men complain about. Like …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:29 AM
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Where is your proof of this exactly? Is there a study on what women prefer?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:49 AM
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This is lazy thinking dude. How many hundreds of millions of men are in the US and what percentage of those are media personalities on good incomes? Ya’ll can’t all be Jordan Peterson. How many single men are voluntarily single? (The moaning on Reddit suggests probably not a fair share) Men actually rarely “go their own way.” They just create enclaves and whine about single mothers and onlyfans. Although I do think people are finding less traditional ways to make money, which is smart. College i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 02:48 AM
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Because a lot falls under the umbrella of “good looking” and it’s open to interpretation. It can also be enhanced by personality. Take Matt Smith for example (English actor) I would describe him as average if I had never seen Dr Who or House of the Dragon (or even Morbius lmao) If he could copy his on-screen personas, he would be very successful at one night stands even if he wasn’t famous. He’s just absolutely gorgeous. His demeanour is fun and sexy. Anyway, if you want an example of good looki…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:40 AM
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They’re good looking, charismatic and flirty. Not too full of themselves though, maybe pop a self-deprecating joke once or twice. That’s all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:28 AM
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This doesn’t make sense. Are you asking how a man can convince a woman to have a one night stand with him? Or are you asking what a one night stand is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 12:22 AM
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1) where does my comment say that? 2) it’s not a generalization. Maybe brush up on your dictionary reading. What I used bro, when I talked about paying for dinner, is an “example.” A facetious one at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:46 PM
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I didn’t just reference famous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 11:58 AM
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They aren’t unacknowledged. It’s just you personally dealing with women who want you to pay for their dinners or whatever doesn’t give you social license to mistreat them or make public negative generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:46 AM
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Right, but in the absence of a peer reviewed study on what the “top ten per cent of men do” or whatever, I’ll rely on my anecdotal experiences and personal observations.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:31 PM
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Nah. We don’t need to insist on egalitarianism in the dating market. Treating identities with less/no hostility for sure, and if people want to organize and have their own “break the beauty standard” movement then that’s welcome too. But it’s not a “problem” to exclude people from your dating pool for any reason. The problem is how you express that exclusion. Tall masculine women and unattractive women don’t receive “plenty” of interest. Some are incredibly lonely and of those that do find a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:24 PM
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Are men criticized for liking femininity or are men criticized for loudly proclaiming distaste for fat women, loud women, masculine women etc when no one asked? My dating preferences are shallow as fuck. Nobody cares because I don’t go screeching about it and making comments that imply men are commodities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 04:34 PM
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Pretty much. Men with “options” seem perfectly happy to date women who have slept around. And less desireable men often have to get over it or be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 03:36 PM
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Like I said in another comment, I don’t see many good looking men or even rich men explicitly chasing virgin or virgin adjacent women. I mean, I don’t know for sure because most people don’t broadcast their sexual histories, but if you look at who celebrities, microcelebrities, Instagram influences and just … good looking men around you are dating, it rarely seems to be Mother Mary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 02:37 PM
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If it’s such a low number, why is this even an issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:54 AM
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I mean, if the theory is that all women have options, she’s probably not with someone she doesn’t want to be with, is she? The relationships and dating advice subs are full of men whining about their girlfriends’ or wives’ sexual history. And honestly, I get the impression that men with “options” are less likely to care about this anyway because they themselves probably have full sexual histories. I don’t see good looking celebrity or microcelebrity men dating virgins. If you’re old, some young …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 11:50 AM
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Is this even true? Because there’s a general consensus that it’s easy for women to partner up and in my experience, women with full sexual histories still date and end up married. And the discussion around single men is usually that it’s involuntary - that they’re unwanted, not that they’re being selective. What’s more likely is men date these women anyway (if they can) and then spend the entire relationship insecure and implying she’s cheating. So yeah, filter whoever you want out of your datin…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 07:48 AM
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The only time I’ve ever seen this separation is in a Disney Channel Original Movie. A lot of female friend groups I saw in high school had girls that were both tomboy’ish and feminine. I do vaguely remember a couple of girly girls getting crapped on for being “too girly” though. They were called “Barbie dolls” in a disparaging way
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 07:56 AM
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Surely you don’t believe Black men are an unsupported group in discourse? Every publicized police shooting in America spotlights the treatment of Black men. Gay men are similarly given significant space in mainstream discussions, at least in the spaces I’m in online. Obviously this does not translate to direct, life quality improvement but the discussion is there. Poor men? Not really though… it’s more “poor people.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/03/23 01:56 PM
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No, not then, now. Abortion access is unrelated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 09:24 AM
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Child support + all pregnancy related expenses, wages garnished from the start. The national child support arrears bill will tell you why this needs to be cracked down on.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 06:35 AM
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It’s a completely reasonable definition? You can either feel good about sex, feel bad about sex or feel good/bad about sex in certain contexts. All the big religions feel negatively about sex prior to marriage. This post is about the issue with people having sex prior to marriage. Most people have sex prior to marriage, unless they’re from a sex negative religion or culture. This ain’t controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:10 AM
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Forbidding, discouraging or shaming sex prior to marriage, which is the context we’re discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 06:37 AM
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No. Me: most people with no prior partners come from sex negative religious backgrounds You: religions aren’t sex negative Me: oh yeah? Which ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:51 PM
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Which strongly followed religion encourages people to have a lot of sex before marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 12:37 PM
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Leading them on how? Are you saying women who are like “send me rent money and I’ll have sex with you” and then when the man does it, he gets blocked? Is that the scenario you’re imagining?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:17 AM
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Too good looking? What does that have to do with your ability to control your sex life? Are you being hunted and held down by amazons or something
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:07 AM
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Yes they are, if they pay for a sex worker. If they just choose to randomly donate a designer handbag to a twitch streamer with large breasts, then no, they’re not getting sex and no one ever said they were getting sex. Why you’re blaming women for men throwing money at women because of their own delusional fantasies is probably beyond your comprehension. But I know what it is. sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 08:01 AM
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Pair bonding has zero functional relevancy on this topic. None. People with prior partners divorce because they understand how much better they can have it and usually don’t face external pressures to maintain a marriage even if it’s dead in the water. People without pre-marital partners are almost exclusively of a sex-negative religious background where enduring a marriage, however bad it may be, is virtuous behavior. They don’t divorce because they feel they socially can’t. They trap themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:38 AM
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Men aren’t being taken advantage of lmao. Women are providing social and sexual experiences that men are willing to pay for. That’s the extent of it. If you think that’s wrong, tell other men to stop paying for porn and sugar babies. There’s no service if there’s no market.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/23 07:18 AM
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I think it means men need to something something or crazy cat lady something something 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 07:38 AM
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If you’re seriously considering uprooting your life because it revolves around Tinder matches, then just Google “places with short women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:45 AM
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1) no it’s not about trying to convince men they should be attracted to fat women. No one cares what you’re attracted to, they care that you talk shit online. If you spend your life dating skinny women, absolutely no one would bat an eye. Just don’t put down other body types in the process. I’ve not once dated an Asian man and no one’s ever accused me of being a racist. That’s because I don’t harp on about Asian men. Take your cues from me. 2) being attracted to skinny women is not biology. Fatn…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/23 01:34 AM
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Bro, let me make this quite clear: We are talking about female breadwinners who are paying most of the bills and doing most of the housework. That’s the demographic we are discussing. This does not disprove that some women are trophy wives that sip Margheritas all day. We’re not talking about them. We’re talking about women who pull the financial slack in their homes and still do majority of the housework and how this is an increasing number of women. I’m not cherry-picking anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 11:15 AM
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I don’t think you get it. I’m saying women are increasingly the breadwinner and pulling the most weight around the home. The only relevant job types are the ones that make women the breadwinner I.e. full time jobs. Full time jobs are pretty much the only way you can be a breadwinner. We are specifically talking about breadwinners. If I say “policing is a dangerous job and more police are men” it would be dumb as f for you to counter with “but what about the men who are fast food workers? Kinda b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 10:41 AM
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This just isn’t true. Most people are very to mildly insecure about themselves and actually underrate their attractiveness. A few average yet confident women and men doesn’t negate that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:54 AM
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The body positivity movement was created by fat people and it’s led by fat people. Heaps of women who aren’t fat ridicule, shame and bully fat women. I’ve actually seen plenty anecdotal accounts from fat women that say they’re mostly ignored by men, it’s the women who are really vicious about weight. So no. I don’t think it’s a way for thin women to “reduce competition”. I just think some thin women aren’t assholes and want people to stop being nasty.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:52 AM
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Is this really that complicated? I’m a woman with a degree, above average income, career growth and assets. I have romantic partners because I want love and companionship. Is there any other value that’s really necessary besides emotional? (assuming the guy is decent)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:49 AM
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What are you trying to say exactly? Full time work is the only work that’s relevant. Neither father or mother can on average support a family on less.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:45 AM
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Lol again. You: it’s not men who are inadequate and failing at being a partner. You as well: hahaha! Why would men want to contribute equally in a relationship? Hahaha!!!!! Men are so cool and women drool 😎😎😎 hehehe!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:13 AM
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Their need to have a partner that takes responsibility for 50% of childcare, 50% of event and appointment planning and 50% of domestic work, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 03:01 AM
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We’ve been through this. Just as many men feel they have a bait and switch pulled on them regarding sex and libido, women feel the same way about men and contributing to the home. Now, I won’t pretend that all women pick saints. Of course not. Just browse through Reddit and you’ll see heaps of women complaining about men they’re merely dating are being shitty but they don’t want to dump them. So yes, some women know their boyfriend is crap but still marry him anyway. However, there is a lot of e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:50 AM
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Sorry bud but the reasons for divorce are well studied. What you want to believe and what is actually true is miles apart. Women can work and take care of the home, men on average cannot or will not, so ya’ll are being increasingly boxed out of the dating market, kicked out of your marriages and relying on porn while the dishes in your dirty kitchen pile up. Enjoy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:38 AM
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1) What makes you think tall and good looking people don’t do the dishes? 2) I thought women spent their 20s ploughing through Chads only to settle down with a nice guy? 🧐 3) you do realize most women and men get married or have long term cohabitations? So it’s not the “top 10 per cent of men” or whatever random crap you people flog that women marry and end up unhappy with - it’s mostly just any guy. That short and average dude that “Stacy” won’t date is likely to end up married and still be div…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:26 AM
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The first correct thing you’ve said. I am a feminist. Bias in science is a well studied phenomena. You can very much find dissenting pieces. Here’s an editorial I found with a quick lazy Google search that discusses work which favors women. Then I have to validate the objectivity of my own sources and so on. Anyway, when a conversation is so bad I have to argue with myself, I know it’s time to tap out. Cya.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:21 AM
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Wrong again. Useless, inadequate men failing at being both providers and caretakers (like women are) is what blows up marriages. You know how men routinely complain about how they had heaps of sex with their girlfriend but then he married her and she stopped being interested? Well that’s men + being a decent partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 02:13 AM
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It is a random accusation because you are a random Reddit user disparaging a body of work with zero source to back up your claims. Saying generally that science can be flawed isn’t a useful counterpoint. Besides, I don’t particularly care if you tell me you’re chief scientist at Women Suck University. You aren’t believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 12:27 AM
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Feel free to Google your own study, they all say the same. You’ve pretty much just dismissed all academic work based on the random accusation of bias though, so there’s no talking to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:19 PM
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Objectively correct to do the dishes every night because: 1) bacteria and health 2) it attracts insects 3) it’s courteous to leave the kitchen and utensils clean for users the next day Men who don’t do this are just being slobs. It’s not women having ridiculous standards, it’s women actually wanting to live in a clean home with people who care about the impact they have on others in the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:17 PM
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Women are happy to work. We just don’t want men that don’t contribute equitably. I don’t know why you think sensitive = does housework, but whatever. We’re fixing the issue ourselves. The divorce rate is sky high and most divorces are initiated by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:14 PM
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Actually they account for almost half currently. About 70% of US mothers will be the breadwinner before their kid turns 18. Source
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:11 PM
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Like I said, stop obsessing over women and you’ll even things out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 11:08 PM
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Wrong. women in relationships provide more emotional support than men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:55 PM
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They are the correct standards. Men do less chores because men don’t do their fair share and women end up just cleaning it so it’ll get done. Some women complain that it’s not done properly but the majority of the time it’s not done all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 02:53 PM
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Right. And you must see the irony in the majority of men wanting a surrogate mother relationship. It’s certainly worth pointing out if that’s your experience. Sounds like you’ve been absolutely mistreated. I’m not sure that men necessarily have the high ground in feeling aggrieved on this particular issue though. On something like being expected to court a woman and pay for dates - certainly, because that’s a heavily gendered experience favorable to women. But doing most of the work in a relatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:56 PM
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100% Men are the architects of their own misery. They could collapse hook up culture, Only Fans, dating imbalances and whatever else they hate overnight if they could just drum up some class solidarity like women have, but nope
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:52 PM
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Yes, women’s standards for what is clean is something that is actually clean. But that’s not what we’re talking about. Men on average do less chores.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:44 PM
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But your experience is generally the (evidence supported) experience of women. So your resentment is anecdotal and personal. Collective resentment is very much how women as a gender feel, particularly in post second wave countries where women are working yet still taking on majority of domestic work at home
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:42 PM
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It’s wonderful how choosy women are. I hope we tighten up even more in our dating choices. It’s going to do us a world of good. Men should take the same advice. You spend half your time complaining about all the attention women get and the other half thirsting after Instagram models and power swiping through dating apps. Have some dignity.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:37 PM
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How can this be true if women now fund themselves by working, are the breadwinner in many (most?) households and still do majority of the cleaning? Men collectively are bringing less to the table than they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:32 PM
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Wah wah women don’t want to date inadequate men wah wah I love modern dating. Exactly the right people are having fun and getting into relationships. The rest of ya’ll ordering body pillows. Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 01:18 PM
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I think that mascot is meant to be a little girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 03:04 AM
0

Who’s Mrs Morton? If I Google it, this cartoon character comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:52 AM
-1

Honestly, the selective bias in you people is hilarious. You believe women largely come crawling back to men who are successful (even though that’s functionally useless if you’re not wealthy) but don’t believe a young and gorgeous woman is dating you for the very reason women who rejected you previously are now allegedly trying to date you. Trust me, you’ll need that luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:24 AM
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So, you fall into my second category. Women circling back because you made yourself some visible cash. Let me get this straight: You weren’t attractive enough previously, you’re successful now and think this 21 year old (who for the sake of argument I’m going to assume isn’t a body pillow) loves you for you and isn’t … sacrificing her lack of attraction for money? Good luck with your marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 02:04 AM
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It’s a true one. I’ve never circled back to anyone I thought was boring or unattractive previously. I don’t know how old you are but let’s imagine you’re 23. When you’re 33, do you really expect all women who rejected you for being whatever you are now are going to come crawling back? Or let’s imagine you’re 33 right now. How many women have been knocking at your door? Doesn’t matter what you answer lol. I’m not going to believe you unless you say 0, because that’s actually what’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 01:31 AM
2

I don’t really believe this is true anyway. I’m sure there are women in desperate situations who are selective to their own advantage or women that will sacrifice their attraction for money, but I think generally women pick men they actually like to marry. Like this fantasy of women dating 30+ men who look like Chris Hemsworth only to settle with a nice guy that looks like [insert average dude] is just a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 12:29 AM
1

It was implied bro. What’s really true is that nothing I said was talking about men making dating better for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 11:16 AM
0

Bro you should implement a rule where you only join conversations less than a day old. It’s much less embarrassing. Adios.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:17 PM
1

Imagine this. You hop on Reddit. Your username is NASAemployee67. You jump on a post about astronauts being passive in space missions. You comment that you think it would be great if astronauts played a more active role in space missions but it never really seems a popular idea in NASA circles. You say that “we” should empower astronauts. And then some dude on Reddit hops onto your comment and says: OmG hoW DaRe yOu BrInG lAwYeRs iNtO ThIs!!!!! laWyeRs haVe nO resPonSibIliTy tO AsTroNaUtS WhatSo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 02:15 PM
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tall, fit, financially successful and more ambitious Do you think men who date models are effeminate, weak and insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/23 04:01 AM
1

Because I don’t mention men. I explicitly talk about feminism (which is a WOMAN centred movement) and I say “we” which you can infer means women because my username screams female. You’re inserting yourself where you don’t belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 12:38 PM
1

Yes, you specifically asked what I do and I told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:12 PM
3

I’ve never once told a male incel to date an ugly woman. I don’t make a habit of talking to incels at all really. How much chat about “Chad” and “femoids” can you really have before tuning out you know
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:22 PM
0

Me: relationships can become abusive when you don’t really like who you’re with You: oMg u Man HaTeR!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:13 PM
1

It doesn’t imply men at all. I mention it never takes off as a feminist campaign point. I mention the idea gets overrun in the feminist groups I’m in. I say I know women make that choice but “we” should make it safer and enjoyable for women. I’m a woman. How do you infer that I’m talking about men? There’s zero implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:11 PM
1

Look, why don’t you ask her if she’s tried dating men in her “SMV” bracket and get back to me on that. It’ll be super helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 08:14 AM
6

You should read some stories about the abuse in relationships with unattractive people. When you’re only with someone because you feel you can’t do better, you don’t tend to treat them very well
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:17 AM
1

That’s true, but most places I can think of have de facto laws, which means you don’t have to be married to risk losing assets in “divorce”, sometimes governments just treat you as if you are regardless. All the fall risk, though I’m pretty certain none of the benefits (tax)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 07:01 AM
1

Actually living together while not married negatively affects your financial standing. Here’s one source I found through a quick cursory glance at Google and here’s another one. Source #2 actually reckons married couples are 4 times as rich than cohabitating couples. Edit: may worth mentioning that the government does prefer people get married, so the system is designed to benefit people who do it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:43 AM
1

Scary stuff. Enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:40 AM
1

Ooooof. Don’t tell me I’ve been talking to a kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:33 AM
1

Could be true
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:26 AM
1

So you agree with me? Is the debate over?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:25 AM
1

Yes, I understand that. I’m not sure what the disconnect is. Married people have more wealth than single people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:22 AM
3

Nah. Here’s a sourcethat says men are actually richer post divorce. Women tend to take a larger hit over the long term, while men have shorter term losses but are better off financially in the end. Which is unsurprising, given how many times custody falls to the mother and how little child support is awarded. But anyway - that divorced man is still poorer than your typical married couple. Because married people have more money - but yes, if your conditions change, your wealth is likely to change…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:13 AM
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I can’t deliberately misrepresent you because what you said is not open for interpretation. You very clearly said “ugly men can’t get laid, but ugly women can even with a bad attitude ” I said “no, not even with make up” and linked a post describing just that. You then went on to say that make up doesn’t fix a bad attitude, even though you just said that bad attitudes weren’t prohibitive in women. I’m not running around in circles on this. If you were worth my time and had decent debate skills, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:06 AM
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Right, but people don’t have babies to motivate them to work harder. That’s just sometimes an unintended consequence of having a baby. It’s the same with marriage. The conversation isn’t usually “we’ll be richer if we do this,” that’s just an output.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:01 AM
1

We’re talking about the surplus value. There’s a study I linked somewhere in this thread that shows married couples with kids are more likely to save, invest and push forward their careers because they have dependents motivating them. Not every extra penny they make will fund the child directly. It also means they can buy more than one car, another home, invest, increase their asset wealth etc. Assuming we’re living in a world where inflation is under control anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:57 AM
1

Nothing prevents them, they just tend not to be. We’re not talking about what could happen, we’re talking about what is happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:54 AM
2

Do you even know where you are? OP: there’s no such thing as lonely women Me: yes there is, check out this sub. You: ugly women can’t get laid because of bad attitudes Me: says who? You: ugly women can get laid no matter what even if they’re attitudes are bad Me: ????
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:53 AM
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I mean .. right. But the material reality is that these people are still more wealthy than single people. I’m sure single people are probably less stressed and may be happier, but they’re comparatively poorer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:22 AM
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Lol. Post: “Men on Reddit always ask me to show them my face so they can judge how ugly I am.” You: OmG lOok hOw MuCh RoMaNtIc AtTeNtIoN WoMeN oN rEdDiT get. Although sure, if you’re ignored in real life and your DMs are always empty, I’m sure it probably feels like a “how ugly are you really?” message is the equivalent of a proposal
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:20 AM
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I don’t think you’re quite up to speed with this conversation, champ Me: ugly women struggle to get laid. You: those women have bad attitudes but can still get laid while men can’t Me: no they can’t get laid. Read experiences from ugly women. Even ones wearing make up. You: make up doesn’t fix bad attitudes Me: didn’t you just say having a bad attitude is not a factor in ugly women falling to get laid because they can get laid anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:16 AM
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Actually no. Here’s a source that says children increase marital wealth. People with families are more likely to save, invest and are motivated to push forward their careers a lot more than people without dependents.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:13 AM
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Yeah probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:09 AM
1

Right but I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about wealth accrual within marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:08 AM
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I don’t even know how to engage with that point. Maybe you can start with proof that all ugly people have bad attitudes? Besides you just said that ugly women with bad attitudes can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:06 AM
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You know, I haven’t actually checked the methodology to see if that’s controlled for, but I do know for a fact there are studies that are specific to low income earners of similar backgrounds as well as middle class specific studies. Obviously in many cases purchasing power near doubles under marriage and you’re strengthened by tax benefits. You’ll also find the number of single people vs married people on welfare shows a clear disparity (and that does control for class)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 05:03 AM
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You’re doing it again. Me: Not considering income is a standards failure in men. Why would you want to compromise your lifestyle? You: Stop bullying people! You are being a dictator!! You are trying to get men to date you by demanding they care about your career! Nobody has better comprehension skills than me!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:50 AM
1

This one? It looks like she’s been heavily victimized in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:46 AM
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Lol. So you don’t actually know. You’re just convinced these ugly women explicitly stating they are ignored are actually drowning in attention. Sorry but being ugly is only part of the male sexlessness trend. Bullheaded stupidity factors into it as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:42 AM
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“Men ignore me” doesn’t mean “men give me more attention than I know what to do with.” Brush up on your reading skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:40 AM
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I’m just reiterating my point. If you understood it the first time, I wouldn’t have gotten a dumb ass comment in my notifications about men and their duties.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:28 AM
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This is just a delusional opinion. There are not hordes of men trying to break down the door of truly ugly women. Or some men or one man. Listening to ugly women and their experiences being completely ignored no matter how much make up they’re wearing will tell you that. As I suggested, browse the forever alone sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:25 AM
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Financially? No. Married couples are much wealthier than single couples. I’d need to look up the impact of children but I have a feeling that marriage continues to be the best choice in terms of financial security, even with kids factored in.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:23 AM
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So nOw ItS oUr DuTy No kid. There’s just nothing wrong with preferring a partner can match the lifestyle you’ve made for yourself and it would probably serve men a lot better if a woman’s ambition and career was a stronger consideration when dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:14 AM
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And the world’s ugliest man (Godfrey Baguma) is married too. Should I now dismiss every ugly man who cant find love as “just has a bad attitude” or can we acknowledge that most people don’t want to date a very unattractive person?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:11 AM
3

Really? This seems voluntary to you? I don’t think you’re browsing it enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:08 AM
3

And I’m a woman who previously (he recently landed a new higher earning job) outearned their partner and paid the higher share in rent, most utilities and treated them in dates. Let’s not compare anecdotes shall we? Young women are out earning men in many places (I’m using US figures) and a greater share of women are returning to work after pregnancy while the father takes paternity leave for the baby’s first year. Women are funding their families like never before and this is very much a fact. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 04:06 AM
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Lol The fact that men don’t care about income is a standards failure in men, especially as it’s almost the sole decider in how good your life is going to be (save for disability) I can’t believe you’re calling income earned before pregnancy a facade. Bro, that income pays for her car, housing deposit (if not house) and every other high value asset + sheer enjoyment in life. Maybe tell men to wise up instead of plunging their standard of living for vagina. (Unfortunately they won’t because this o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:44 AM
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This post really shows how much men’s brains have been fried by watching too much porn and following too many Instagram model accounts. 1) You can’t conceive of a truly ugly woman. And I’m not talking about a fat woman. I mean a really, really, unattractive woman and how people in that demographic are treated. 2) You think all men are pathetic, horny and will bend their preferences to get laid no matter how unattractive a woman is. You’re wrong on both counts. Browse r/foreveralonewomen
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:25 AM
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I completely agree. Just within the context of this post I’m saying that initiation from women is a good and welcome thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:57 AM
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Lol. See the problem with men, is that ya’ll have no dignity. It’s not about sex. A lot of women dislike how men handle relationships. Women initiate majority of divorces after all. And it’s not because they’ve found a “Chad” it’s because the man they’re with is simply inadequate. They’re not doing enough chores, not doing enough childcare, not interested in keeping the romance alive, they just want to sit around and watch technically legal teens shake their asses on TikTok. And it’s not as if m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 11:05 PM
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Nowhere in the comment you’re replying to do I mention men. I’m not talking about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:07 PM
5

You should Google this subject. Plenty of surveys and articles that discuss this say women are much happier single.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:03 PM
12

Hey! I was just talking about how useless they are as a movement! Here ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 08:28 AM
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Women are definitely much more content at being single than men are. The number of women who don’t care to date increases with age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 03:58 AM
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Your comprehension skills are sub par. I’ve already explained some benefits of women led dating and why women should or would make that choice. Scroll up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 02:12 AM
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Because this is a debate sub and I’m putting my opinion forward? Do you have any concept of what we’re doing here at all? Here is how it is: Me: I think women should make the first move You: but men have to make the first move already!!! Me: yes? You: I tHiNk EvErY hOt WoMaN ShOuLd JuMp oN mY DiCk
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:50 AM
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Bro, I know men are expected to make the first move. The very point of my comment is “women should do it” not “women already do it and men just sit there and look pretty.”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:25 AM
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And you think men’s moves are that much better? The sometimes witty openers of the dudes over at r/Tinder are not representative, trust me on that. In any case, I’m talking about women led dating in venues like clubs or bars. Women should approach men, offer to purchase drinks, take charge regarding number/social media exchange and etc. You don’t have to worry about people spiking drinks or handing out fake numbers to prevent people you don’t like contacting you if you’re largely in social contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 01:12 AM
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I actually think women-led dating is a great concept but it never really takes off as a serious feminist campaign point. I’ve seen threads about it get overrun with “just be single” 😔 I know plenty of women are making that choice but loads still want companionship and we should be making dating safer and more enjoyable for them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/23 12:07 AM
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I agree with this. If women want to date men, they should be encouraged to pursue them (and yes, pay for their share of the date if not treat him entirely) Plenty of women are just used to the hunter/prey dynamic when it comes to dating. Hoping that’s phased out soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 11:41 PM
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He doesn’t believe it, it’s just a comfort myth. Like telling the bullied kid in school that they’ll be a CEO some day and get their revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:58 PM
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Honestly this is one the most hilarious chronically online fantasies. Women largely do not hit up men they thought were unattractive in their early 20s. And I’m not even sure all these rejected men eventually have a glow up considering how many middle aged losers there are on 4chan arguing about whether hentai counts as CP. Some of y’all are staying unwanted, that’s for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 02:44 PM
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Nah. All you do in your post is have a whinge disguised as a question about why women don’t want to fuck virgins. You give zero additional context about relationship dynamics. Besides, most men aren’t virgins, so unless they’re fucking each other, some other gender on this planet must be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:14 AM
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You’re goalpost shifting. At no point in your post do you talk about relationships or the quality of the man who’s a virgin. You’re talking about sex. What are you imagining exactly? That millions of virgin men are paying for dates, buying women jewellery, looking good, being funny and interesting and generally wonderful and then 3 months later she finds out he’s a virgin and dumps him? Is that how it is in your world? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 08:05 AM
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Can one explain what's so traumatic for women that having bad sex a couple times is a huge problem for them? Is it possible that some women just don’t want to have bad sex and will therefore not fuck virgins to avoid having what is likely to be bad sex? Women don’t find it traumatic, they just don’t want it. The orgasm gap is big enough already, I hope women become even more selective about the kind of people they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:35 AM
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Negligible difference. Don’t get me wrong, money buys happiness. If there’s a potential partner with hedge fund money in the mix I’m sure that might persuade some people but … If you’re funny and gorgeous and interesting and make 40k a year, you’ll still probably be desired over a guy making 80k that’s below average in other areas. If your point is that both potential partners are absolutely amazing and the only difference is the income disparity then … yeah? Maybe you pick the guy who’s income …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 07:28 AM
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Again ???? Are you trying to argue that having a minimum wage job and crying all the time aren’t attractive qualities on their own? Well yes, you’re right. But these women aren’t saying they are. They’re saying if everything else clicks, these “realities” are not dealbreakers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:43 AM
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????? Being supportive of a crying man or a guy with a minimum wage job doesn’t mean you would automatically reject a man that’s rich or muscular. Like what is this logic. You’re not proving anyone wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/23 06:20 AM
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The source you referenced doesn’t mention feminism and only mentions women twice, neither of which are in reference to how they treat men. Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 06:16 AM
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I repeat - being ugly does not inhibit your ability to work and support yourselves. Society treats ugly people horribly and you are right, earnings and attractiveness are linked. But you’re still in a position to fund your lifestyle, just like everyone else with earning limitations. You can treat ugliness the same way you treat medical deformity. It’s been marketed to women for decades now. Save up and pay for surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 04:28 AM
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It’s crazy. Women have traditionally gone through the fucking ringer to appeal to men. The cosmetic industry has handed out make up, diet pills, hair extensions and surgical intervention like it’s fucking candy. And what do men do to appeal to women? Some go to the gym, the rest sit online writing manifestos about how to legally force or coerce women into fucking them. Pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 03:31 AM
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Well then I’m sure you understand the purpose of my comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:40 AM
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Good. These silly “punish women for not fucking us” posts are worth being angry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:17 AM
5

At the moment men are just calling me homophobic lol 😆
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:15 AM
1

And no one is forced not to have sex either. In most societies, you can very much pay for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:13 AM
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So? The fact that women aren’t attracted to these men is typically considered irrelevant to people who push these ideas. So, the fact that men aren’t attracted to other ugly men is irrelevant to me. If you feel sorry for unattractive men and think they should have sex, donate your own hole 🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 02:11 AM
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Counter proposal: undesirable men date and fuck each other. They adopt unwanted kids and we fund test tube babies so they can keep contributing to the population. Maybe one of them elects to become the “woman” and we start researching how to transplant gestating wombs so men can have biological births. This is a great idea. After all, attraction doesn’t really matter does it? All that matters is letting people cum in you so they can relieve their sexual frustrations and have babies. Well men who…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 12:04 AM
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It’s an irrelevant point. Some people also have a choice in whether to visit Disneyland tomorrow. Other people don’t. What in the ever loving hell is the relevance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:13 PM
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Which is reasonable in many circumstances in society. Most people go to jail without their consent for example. It makes no sense to say “if women don’t want to be used as sex rewards, then we should also be asking if people who commit crimes actually want to go to jail.” The two situations are completely different. It also makes no sense to link women’s choices about who they have sex with to choosing down to the dollar about where your taxes go.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 11:10 PM
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Sometimes you really can’t do anything about it. I used to read a Tumblr blog years ago that collected the experiences of incredibly ugly women. They tried make up, one or two that I read tried surgical interventions on the face. Sometimes you can’t “upskill” your way out of looking bad on the eyes. Of course, too much make up can make you look really different, but then you’re afraid of what happens if you ever have to unmask. Men are a credit to society. They work a lot of hard labor jobs, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 10:57 PM
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“Even the chubby ones” Honestly, I don’t know why many men seem to believe that unattractive = just a fat woman, but that seems to be a common belief. It’s astounding that you can’t conceive of a truly ugly woman, with a heavily unfortunate face. And to call most women “majorly” attractive, it’s nuts, we aren’t. Your idea of what a woman is comes from porn or photoshopped Instagram profiles - im sure of it. Ugly women in real life will usually just be ignored, dismissed, mocked and made fun of, …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:35 PM
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Yes it is moronic to equate the political sphere with women and men choosing who they want to date. One has no bearing on the other. People do get a choice in where their taxes go. That is the function of representative democracy. If you want to improve that so it is a direct choice (with a never ending sprawling bureaucracy to accomodate that) then great. Has nothing to do with dating though. “Some choices are limited and some aren’t” isn’t a crazy and unfair idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:21 PM
1

No you wouldn’t. Wealth and body are not interchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 04:14 PM
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Uh, no. You are completely ignorant of how judgemental men are. Only one gender comes with a multi billion dollar cosmetic industry designed to convince people to change their faces. It isn’t men. And you really wouldn’t know how they treat women outside the beauty standard unless you’re a woman outside the beauty standard who dates men. Being ugly does not inhibit your ability to work and support yourself. Poverty and disability does - that’s why we pay for it. Once again, women aren’t resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:52 PM
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I read everything you said and it’s moronic. People date to have fun and find companionship, not to spread an equal amount of love and sex throughout the human race. Women are not a resource. Women’s bodies are not a commodity. Women not wanting to fuck you is not a logical pathway to defunding services for homeless people. If you think ugly men should have sex and attraction shouldn’t matter, then you and other men should be first in line to share mouths and asses. You can sort out your sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 03:19 PM
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Like I said, if you feel sorry for these men - date and fuck them. You keep talking about women lowering their standards and how they could if they wanted to. Well you lead by example and come show us horrible women how to save humanity by taking loads in the ass and mouth from ugly men. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:51 PM
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Because it’s immoral to designate women’s bodies as support mechanisms. If you feel sorry for unattractive people, donate your own holes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:24 PM
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Yes, people want to have sex with people they’re attracted to. So, if you’re conventionally unattractive, it will be harder for you to form those kind of relationships. This isn’t really news.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 02:19 PM
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I prefer #2 but we wouldn’t have sex or engage in any physical intimacy because I’m not attracted.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/23 01:50 PM
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Wild guess? 1) maybe for evolutionary reasons? A fat person indicates access to food and comfort. 2) weight can be changed so it matters less. Height cannot?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:48 AM
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