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Question For Menshimapanlover/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:33 PM
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Perfect in every way? I would marry her. I wouldn't care who she was with. Perfect means she is loyal and would agree to the craziest shit I can imagine. Perfect would also mean she is rich, I could quit my job and play video games all the time and she'd still love me. Honestly I don't mind if she was with a whole football team. But perfect doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 01:38 AM
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Like a great line for a Manga said one time: A guy being nice to everyone is like a girl opening her legs for everyone. Just don't - be respectful to everyone. But excluding friendship - pick someone you like and be nice to only them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/24 11:44 PM
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I would make it pretty clear that I want a paternity test no matter what. I am human, I could cheat, and she is no angel, she could cheat. That's the reality of life. Personally I think it's a failure of me if my partner feels the need to cheat, that is why I do not see a problem with a test. I do not assume she is a failure - I assume I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:23 PM
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Only if you get everyone and guarantee absolute security. So basically never. Just let people do paternity tests if they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 08:18 PM
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If both parties were open to the idea, sure. I mean, if people were free to disagree, I don't see how it would make a difference to the current dating market. I don't see women giving up their choice in their younger years, I don't see men, who actually profit from women having choice give up their situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:44 PM
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I don't know, women were always in the driver's seat regarding who they chose to partner with. The solution in the last few centuries was to elevate all men so that most men make a passable partner for a woman. This is now called the patriarchy - feminists believe it was a system designed to keep them down and make them slaves, while that was certainly a part of it, it wasn't what it was designed to be. It was designed to be a system to make men stop revolting and toppling down the government, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:30 PM
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Kinda? My best two friends are guys I exclusively hang out with since we were kids, everyone else feels like an acquaintance in comparison, but there are lots of women in that category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 06:31 PM
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the distribution was worse, as in you could have less chance than 1:5 depending on how many sons are born after the first. I should have made better use of my punctuation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 02:41 AM
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There have been cultures where the first-born son has had more value than the average woman in a family with assets, as he was chosen to keep the family line alive and got all the land and wealth of that family. But at the same time - all the sons born after the first were sent to war, to pillage, to explore or became monks, their life didn't matter, they were disposable. For that to happen though, it needs some sort of stability and government structure, some sort of empire with borders, peasan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:05 PM
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I mean, insecurity backed by statistics, sure. Like telling someone to jump a building since 40% survived. I'd be insecure to jump. That's why men will always try to earn more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 05:05 AM
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I think the word intimidated is just plain wrong. I'm intimidated by someone that could beat me to a pulp, I'm not intimidated by someone earning more than me, there are probably millions of women that do that I would have no problems with partnering. But I don't believe that it will be a lasting thing. So if I have feelings for her and she earns more than me it's a fear of her leaving me, that's totally different to the feeling of intimidation. If I don't have feelings for her she can earn what…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:24 PM
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To add to this, many men of today are from long lines of arranged marriages. So it's not like flirting is in most of our genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:20 PM
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Doesn't that depend on what the guy wants? I mean there are a lot of trad people who could be described as red pillers that advice against "spinning plates". But being trad doesn't necessarily mean you are rp, quite the opposite from what I have seen - most trad guys are bp. Just not the guys who you would find on reddit. And quite a few liberal guys are using rp tactics, maybe not consciously, but they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:26 PM
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I don't think that would work. I'm thinking about what would I do, suppose a different world where men get to sleep with a 8-10 if they want to but never really getting a relationship from them, just situationships at most. I would not give up sleeping out of my league for having a family. I completely understand women not wanting to do this and why women fought the shaming they got when they decide to live out that life. Completely understandable, I too would want a movement that stops this sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 07:29 AM
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I disagree - we should make other things more interesting instead. I do not want to live in a collectivist authoritarian society where some bureaucrat decides for me what to do. I don't think that is even possible in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:36 PM
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I'm not arguing that this is good. It's just me speculating how we can have a relatively stable society with millions of young military aged men not being part of it and not toppling it like men usually did before or still do in countries with less of those distractions. Like.. I'm imagining if ever some leader figure came around wanting to end the system for whatever political cause, be it fascism or communism and most men that supposedly have nothing to lose usually being the prime candidates …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 05:22 PM
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Yea - I think that is a fact. Men are built to topple a system if it doesn't give them the opportunity to have offspring. A bunch of young military aged men not having a family or roots in the country was basically a death sentence for your society/country. But I'd argue it isn't the same today, men can get outlets for their competitive side through video games and can feel like having a harem through porn. In my opinion, that is why we can have 7 million male NEETS in the US without being close…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 04:42 PM
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I thought about splitting it in two. But if his idea was that my hypothetical is not really mirroring the situation, yes that is right - I took liberties to get to a certain point I wanted to make. You can of course criticize this and I see it. But that's the thought experiment I came up with. I didn't claim that it can't be scrutinized just that I would like to base my thoughts on this. If it's impossible for him, that's also fine. I did not expect to get as much responses as I did in the first…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 07:03 PM
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Here's what I said: "if you were a 6/10 guy regularly pulling 8's and 9's and then YOU complain ...that's where people will criticize you." Yea I read that, I mentioned that in my second paragraph - it would require me to first overthink the approach I made here. I can't come up with an answer on the spot. I really wish I could be so fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:21 PM
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No conservative or terper will be caught asking Gram-Grams to release her mortal coil, but they sure af have no problem demanding to draft women’s wombs. Which are both disgusting. Freedom and Individualism are paramount. Thank god someone here seems to fully get me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:17 PM
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Just a hypothetical world, a thought experiment. There is no relation to reality. If you don't think this merits a discussion or you think I worded it poorly, I will try better next time - I'm happy I got a few people discussing it and not fail completely though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:14 PM
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I tried to introduce a perspective, where as a man you have a great life until you are 30 or 32 and you are not into the whole dating market theory because why should you? You have been sleeping with one hot girl after the other, you wouldn't know or be confronted with pushback in your day to day life - but suddenly, for you out of nowhere, someone appears and claims to be as attractive as you. I completely can follow your argument that the first argument could come from the guy in the sense of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 04:11 PM
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I have boundaries to what I respond to and what not. For example, the "kid" thing is the last straw. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:53 PM
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Yes. Exactly. I don't care about this, and demanding that from women when I wouldn't do it is just being a hypocrite. And lots of men are hypocrites regarding this - that is my experience as well! Though I do think that things will go south once we are at the point where working adults have to pay for too many pensioners. But that will happen long past my life expectancy. And like I said, tragedy of the commons, why should I expect women to self-sacrifice if I won't, why should I sacrifice when …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:52 PM
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I may have projected a bit. I do not think everyone would handle it that way and many in this topic didn't and I'm perfectly fine with an answer like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:32 PM
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I have my boundaries and I want people to respect them. I have no problems with letting loose people that continuously violate them. My block list is long, even though I actually don't put anyone on there easily. I think there can be a wiggle room where one can adjust to the other's energy a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:29 PM
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I don't think we are good discussion partners. Your approach is needlessly aggressive imo, one can be direct without that and I can not really empathize with these kinds of approaches. I'm sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:14 PM
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Afaik: a romantic or sexual relationship that is not considered to be formal or established. But if you don't see this as a category. I can't really talk to you anymore. Basically we'd start arguing about semantics and I want to argue with people who accept the words I use. Thank you for your input though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:08 PM
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Yeah that could be the case. I might have to rethink my approach to not fall into the trap of seeing yourself in others. Thanks for the reminder.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:05 PM
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Casual sex to most women is nothing. It isn’t desirable. (I’ve slept with lots of men. Most of them were not worth the trouble.) We aren’t out fucking chads. My hypothetical isn't about Chads sharing or making every man have sex like a Chad, it's more of introducing a feminine Chad (not Stacy) that dates down, where men would have semi-serious relationships with for a few months before being dropped.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 03:03 PM
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It's all that my original point is about essentially. And afaik I opened this topic. But according to what you wrote, you are already at that point, even though differently formulated that I would. I don't really have anything to add anymore. Seems I wasn't clear enough so this confusion could have been avoided. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:56 PM
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It's maybe something I misinterpreted, but there is a weird feeling that I have that people seem to pretend they care about society but they really don't. I may have been full of myself though. Not denying that. But there have been some interesting discussions imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:53 PM
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This is a hypothetical. I cannot factor in emotions. I'm trying to paint a scenario - others answered they wouldn't care and look for the emotional connection. Which I accepted as perfectly good answer. Your viewpoint is appreciated, thought I could go with a bit less needless antagonism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:48 PM
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This isn't really about casual sex though - the question was if men would be ready to go into situationships over several months with the top 10-20% of women. Maybe 2 or a few more situationships per year at most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:43 PM
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Yes! That's what I'm saying. You did understand me, almost. Men don’t care about society falling They don’t care about low birth rates They don’t care about young boys falling behind in school They don’t care about the nuclear family being destroyed. Add "and women" to it. And I'm perfectly happy. Because it's obvious to me, many women seem to not care either. And again, I know I'm repeating myself like some idiot but it has to be said, this is not to blame women for something I won't do myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:36 PM
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I'm kinda trying to say that many women know exactly what they are doing and aren't dumb, nor do I blame them for what I would do myself. The reason I didn't chose Question for Redpill is because it really isn't a dig at the Redpill. I'm far more interested in the Blue Pill men replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:30 PM
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This is a hypothetical scenario. I'm sorry if I haven't made that clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:24 PM
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Completely normal answer. This is honestly the only thing that proves me wrong. Hope there are more of you and less of me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:23 PM
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I can answer your questions, but I do think making up a whole fantasy world would be a bit too much. For instance, do women also hate promiscuity in this scenario? No. Women in this scenario would only look for getting laid. Am I worried about having a good relationship one day and these relationships are making it harder? Yes. You would have problems from dating hot women all the time to have a good relationship. Am I getting traumatized all the time because I always think this 10/10 is the alp…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:21 PM
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Yes - I don't see a solution I would be happy with. And I don't want to be a hypocrite and demand something from women I wouldn't do myself. So this will just end up in a predictable way, when sometime in the future, hopefully after we are dead, there will be a disaster - because too few working adults cannot pay for the amount of pensioners and additional children.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:12 PM
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I disagree ... well kinda. I am hedonistic and self-centered, yes. Thus I feel I can understand women and can't fault them because I would do the same (just as I wrote). Faulting women would make me into a hypocrite. But I'm not a hypocrite. I know exactly that I would be doing the same as some women are doing, I just wouldn't lie about me being a 10 as well nor would I lie that the system will survive in 2070 when 1 working adult has to pay for 2 or more pensioners and will end up in some kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:08 PM
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Yes, I agree. And I do think those women aren't dumb and know exactly what they are doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 02:02 PM
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Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 01:59 PM
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I don't have the book around me since I'm on a work trip for 2 weeks. So I can't help you atm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:29 PM
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Men cannot handle women making more than them. It's the other way around. The chance of a divorce is 50% higher for couples where a woman earns more than a man, with the vast majority of divorces being initiated by women. I mean, everyone in this forum should know by now that there is a considerable statistically significant amount of women that don't like to keep men of lower status than themselves around ... hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:23 PM
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Richard Reeves "Of Boys and Men"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:19 PM
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40% of women earn more than the average man and that is climbing, the lower the age the less of a difference you get. Most men have found mating success through being a provider in history and are not equipped for anything else. Result, lower birth rate, less families, mostly women that don't care about education and careers have above replacement rate children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:21 AM
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That's right. Honestly the rp stuff is the best when it's not in its popularity wave. We had one in 2015/2016 and this new one which will end soon. At the moment there is a lot of BS out there. But with the way it got more popular this time around, I honestly fear what will happen in 2030-2032. Imo rp is at its worst when its popular because it gets too much emotion in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:07 AM
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Being seen as a piece of meat to be fucked an nothing else is incredibly hot for a lot of guys. A woman might not now because they get that constantly, but imagine living in a world where nobody desires your body. So that's why casual sex is incredible. It's just female lust, nothing else, and that is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:20 PM
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That’s not settling It is though. I don't want the "I realized personality matters" girl, I want the "You look so fucking hot I'm going to jump on you and fuck your brains out" girl, if you can't see me as a piece of fine meat at least for an hour, that relationship goes nowhere - we can later find out if the personality matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:16 PM
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It first just meant someone who may or may not be a virgin anymore but is in a years long dry spell even though he/she is trying hard. My opinion on them at that time, at least they are trying. It than turned into a group of guys that can't stop themselves to go down the self-pity porn hole. At that stage the PUA-hate and anti-redpill stuff manifests and is seen as useless drivel by some try-hards. My opinion on them at this stage, losers. From that point it overlapped with the black pill and ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 04:00 PM
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I said either that or being able to provide and that wasn't that long ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:05 PM
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I thought more back over the last couple of thousand years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 03:01 PM
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For ages men have either been successful through being able to provide or their families have arranged a marriage. So most men aren't equipped for success in the current times.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 02:56 PM
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Advocate for free speech on platforms that control the online space. I've returned to image boards recently and it is so much better. If ideas wouldn't cancel you on all Webservices at the same time, maybe give it 5 years at least of unbanning every voice, things would drastically, drastically change. Twitter for example would look different inside a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 12:38 PM
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Sorry for the answer to a 5 months old post. Feel free to ignore. I don't think the problem is finding a woman. An average 35 year old man could probably easily settle for a 32 year old woman with two children. He found a girl. Problem... solved? Nah. What men are after and what they want is enthusiastic commitment, desire, being a point of attraction from a girl in her prime, before children, before makeup changes her age by a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 09:14 AM
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I would not categorize something where you are the only one competing as competitive. If my partner had a job which is exciting for her but dgaf for the competitive side, I would be completely fine with it - it wouldn't impact me being attracted to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 08:16 AM
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I see someone pursuing a career as competitive. You need to be, if not you are not in a career but just working full or part time to survive. I am not attracted to competitiveness in women. This doesn't mean I don't want a woman who has a full-time job and can care for herself. I don't want a woman with a career.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:11 AM
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I am not attracted to competitiveness in a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 03:02 AM
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I would be different, but again - don't take dating advice from a man for men listen to other straight women, the following is just me: - If my a potential partner told me if I keep up what I'm doing, I get what I want, I'd probably marry her if we both can keep that up for a decade. (Breaking my oath to never marry). But that's just wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:59 PM
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competent in areas like that not feel masculine? Not everywhere, you won't feel masculine as a swimmer losing against a martial artist, sure. But it is enough to get an in-group recognition for your abilities. Just look at the gang or extremist situation. They know most people despise them, but as long as they get their in-group respect and are part of their hierarchy, not being liked doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:54 PM
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I'm confused about your question. I stated that I disagree with sharing it 50% if it means I'm going to do more than the basic stuff. If the woman is ok with basic, there is no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:51 PM
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This is why I never commute. OMFG. Imagine like a 2 hour drive to and from work every day. Talk about time wasters. Yup I pushed for that home-office in my work place. I need to commute only once a week now to get things in order. The best thing out of this shitty pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:20 PM
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Basic? Not having stuff lying around, doing dishes, washing and drying clothes and so on. Some of it is daily, other things weekly. I'm not going through everything here. My house looks clean. Maybe all in all 5-8 hours a week, depending on the weather and me trying to cook something new.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:17 PM
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Marriage is out of the question. And I'm gladly limiting my options in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:14 PM
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So this has to be hashed out and truly agreed to by both partners, or the partnership won't work. Yes. Completely agreed. You can't be doing less because you think that is all that needs doing while she is doing more because she thinks your standards are shit Oh I can and I will. Like I said, I think I lose more by wasting thousands of hours than my partner loses, because for me it's mindless and soul crushing, for my partner it isn't. that you secretly like living her way I'm never going to kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 12:09 PM
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Resentment will accrue There are two people in a relationship. I would build up resentment as well if I would feel forced to do things that I regard as unnecessary. I won't give into that at all. Like you said, housework accumulates and I won't waste thousands of hours of my life, it's not a minor thing. The person for whom these hours seem to be wasted will probably accumulate far more resentment than the person who gets something out of it. So just by a numbers game, this is not a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:32 AM
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Nah. I'm by no means untidy, I do the basic stuff so I can invite people over and not feel ashamed. But the last thing I'd do is doing 50% of what the average woman thinks is necessary. Not going to basically increase my workload by sharing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 10:02 AM
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That's nice, so it was at least worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:17 AM
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Hm asking for dating advice for men from men is something akin to asking for dating advice for women from women. I don't think it works. But anyway, you asked: If you think everything feels like a bait and switch, than it seems you are holding back something he has to work for and when he gets the reward he isn't motivated anymore. Either increase the reward or simply talk with him. Tell him, I want you to be my absolute dream partner all the time, and in return I'll be your dream partner all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:24 AM
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I’m not sure if men in chess leagues feel masculine. It does though. That's why you have titles like Grand Master. You climb the hierarchy through your achievements. Maybe I wasn't clear enough though. That hierarchy part matters a lot. Team sports without competition that is fair and based on competence won't affirm their masculinity, even if it's martial arts. The hierarchy part is the one that matters most.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 03:16 AM
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Maybe they thought they might have had a few wars by now but the situation changed and starting a war would have meant to lose all the new wealth and toys opening up brought them. Though recently it seems they try to get self-sufficient, so maybe a war is imminent indeed. But still, Ukraine showed us that young men aren't pretty enthusiastic about being thrown into the meat grinder and Russia went back to long range artillery spam. So even a war might not help them change the demographics anymor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:54 AM
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I think it's pretty easy to affirm masculinity. What are young men doing that feel emasculated, they join fringe groups, gangs or extremists. Something that has a clear goal, a group even if he is low on the hierarchy pole, he still joins and works himself up or tries to. So building teams around various activities, where he can try to work himself up a clearly defined and fair competence hierarchy directly through his actions is something that would work in my opinion. Though that hierarchy nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:45 AM
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I don't think you can or should control anyone and force them into marriage. The idea is to tell bob that he is being used and abused and to do the best for him. Bob basically needs to learn, it's perfectly fine when women sleep around, that's her decision and hers alone - he just should realize that it is happening, that someone telling him it is not happening is a lie and that he in turn owes nobody his commitment as well until his requirements are met. Basically Bob needs to realize and deman…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:28 AM
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You know, entertaining the Idea of "sleeping with him" but never actually follow through? Is that something new? It's just been put out in the open recently. But that's literally what orbiters were for.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:16 AM
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I realized I was kind of too direct. I'm sorry for my word choices. I've been a bit harsh. Seems you do have in fact a problem, so I hope you have the fortitude to solve it. I wish you good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 02:12 AM
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You got a difficult than. I wouldn't want to commit to someone before I knew we were sexually compatible. But I wish you all the luck in the world to find someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 08:53 PM
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Nah, it is mostly a reality check. Basically if a girl doesn't pursue you and you pursue her, you have to play her games. Here is how to solve that, here is how to turn it around on occasion. If you are the one being pursued, you don't need TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:32 PM
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I do. I tell my friends and told male members of my family. I also warn them to not blame women (that's something most people don't even now is part of RP). So it's something that I even can tell feminists if I start with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:25 PM
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I think it's being talked about making a federal law to at least limit abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:18 PM
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Are you religious, or a trad woman? I personally don't understand, I wouldn't want a LTR with someone I don't click with sexually. It's pretty much required to have sex before it gets serious and that worked for me 80% of the time. I do not understand why you feel that you are being used? Is sex something you feel that is being done to you? If it doesn't work out, well you had sex. Didn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 06:10 PM
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Here is the solution: If you do not show as much interest in him as he does in you, he will always have to try to convince you, if he really knows how, he might succeed. Solution: Stop being so fickle and go for guys you want to sleep or have a relationship with. Where has the feminism gone? Is sex something being done to you or something that you enjoy as well? Because you act like the first.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:59 PM
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It's like a main topic here and I feel I wouldn't do it justice. Search for the studies on ppd and pick you favorite explanation, it's better than anything I could do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 05:53 PM
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Are women to blame for you not having sex? Never blame someone else. I would act the exact same way if I were a woman. In fact, I probably wouldn't be even on the dating market - going on a tangent here, if I were to go back before my sports injury when I was the fittest, I'd probably be on tiktok the whole day amassing an audience waiting for my onlyfans debut to rake in the cash. Completely understandable, men would probably abuse the situation even more. So, who am I to judge anyone? Or are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 04:29 AM
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Are you sure that is the case? The infamous Tinder and Okcupid statistics show a pretty diagonal line for men judging the attractiveness of women. It seems for men half of all women are below and the other half above average, which is pretty normal, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:39 AM
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Ok good bye. Just that if your solution puts up any responsibilities on men (or women, but probably don't need to fear that lol), I'm going to disagree with you. I want to get rid of the patriarchy, which means all of it, you won't get to keep stuff that benefits you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:20 AM
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The hostile environment is the end result of the patriarch though; hence the wars. No. Territory is fought over independent of the system humans or animals live in. A matriarchy wouldn't change that, look at Hyenas. Women were also 27% more likely to start wars if they were in power. There is no evidence suggesting that there was not a hostile environment before patriarchy nor that it extended it. You can actually commend the system, not many allow for it's own deconstruction. And I hope it goes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:50 AM
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Hm that's a good question. If I think what the goal of a conservative would be, it is probably to also pull down the attractiveness of the guy who impregnated her. Now he is not only financially responsible, he also is a father. Which pulls a lot on his level of attractiveness as well. Maybe they hope they will marry and get both out of the dating pool? I'm way beyond defending his point now. Sorry that I'm now down to speculating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:47 AM
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e don't have immigration because we need more people. We have immigration and we need more people. What? I don't get your point. You know that we could actually stop immigration if we actually went through with it? You act as though Western countries are forcing 3rd world women to produce children and then conveying them thence to a factory in America, when in reality people are emigrating because they... I don't know... don't want to die of dysentery? We don't need to force anything. As long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:40 AM
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Patriarchies are an answer to hostile environments. You can't really send your women to wars, or well, you can but the second war you will lose. Sometimes people forget, we are animals and we are monsters. We don't need to create one. Our modern society is trying to overcome this step by step. I seriously doubt that we would have done it without the patriarchy step, we'd be swallowed by another patriarchy along the way. And I still stand by my word. Men had it worse because of that system. This …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:35 AM
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You cant make girl to be attracted to you by forcing her to become a single mother You can't. And I and he didn't say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:26 AM
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That doesn't matter for the majority of men who can't change anything either. It was a system to win wars and imo men suffered more from it. In fact I can say now: "We still sustain ourselves from foreign patriarchies though", thanks for mentioning it. Makes it an even stronger point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:24 AM
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Not saying they know they are in one. But it is completely fine to be alone. More power to you. So I guess we do agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:09 AM
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No, I'm not. Certain men here who seem to be edging towards a certain kind of society…should know their daughters or future daughters will have to live within what’s built. I do think they want the best for their daughters. But indeed there is a lack of empathy. Just a reminder though, we all, men AND women of this society lack this empathy towards 3rd world women. And we do that to sustain our society. We still need people and we import them from countries with oppressed women who lack educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:08 AM
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I don't think companionship should be redistributed and that nobody can decide what fair is. Nobody deserves the time of another human being. I also think I can empathize with women that would rather be in a soft harem of a dude than having to be with someone they don't find attractive. I'm not blaming women. We don't agree? edit: I maybe went overboard in explaining what we are actually doing and how we sustain our current system. I wouldn't want it to change if I were a woman in this country t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 01:01 AM
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Do you think that kind of society works out pretty well? No. I wouldn't want to live in it. I just understand their goals. In fact I'm quite the opposite - I'm pro-choice for 15 weeks but tie it to introducing a financial abortion. Give men a week to decide after they were informed.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:58 AM
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You can’t redistribute attraction. Well he said that having a child makes you less attractive, which is true for many. Thus attractiveness is redistributed with the abortion ban in some sense. Not in the sense of a net zero solution, it ends up as a minus. Like taking half of every billionaires money and burning it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:56 AM
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I'm not a conservative, but I think the ultimate goal behind ending abortion is to have men who impregnate women be forced to take responsibility and thus be taken out of the market. The ban on abortion and the move against contraceptives is exactly that. Having guys be tied to women and both being taken out of the dating pool from that point on.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:40 AM
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Ok then start pressuring other men to marry women whom they impregnated. This is what conservatives do, this is why they want abortion rights to be gone. The goal is: Have sex always lead to life, no abortion nor contraceptives allowed, and than force men to marry the girl they impregnated through society shaming him or even laws or at least pay. Returning to that would be a conservative's wet dream. They are pressuring for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:30 AM
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And that worry is not unfounded. I mean it may not be something as crazily on the nose as distributing women directly to men, but many would argue that various forms of enforced widespread monogamy, and the systems that supported it, did have the effect of curbing female selectivity and coercing women into choosing partners they were not attracted to. I agree. And if someone can empathize, they wouldn't want this solution. Certainly if I were a woman I wouldn't agree with that. But aren't we sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:24 AM
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I actually agree with you. I personally don't see a solution at the moment. Maybe in the future when we can build companionship in the form of sex robots with an AI that can communicate. I also don't think this will be the end of humanity or even our developed nations. We will just continue what we do now, rely and take advantage of poor uneducated women from 3rd world countries to create a new labor force and import them once their children are educated. And no, I don't believe the replacement …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 12:09 AM
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There is another solution to the problem, the one we are actually embarking on right now, that nobody is calling out or even recognizing and I don't know why: We simply outsourced the oppression of women to developing countries and import their labor force later when foreign countries paid for their education. If you don't care about social cohesion and the problems immigration at such a large scale may cause (macro-economists, globalists don't) it's a really great solution to the problem. You c…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 11:42 PM
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Probably family. I can remember having some feelings talk with my father and my uncle. Some honest talk with my brother. That happened maybe once every 5 years. That's it mostly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 09:35 PM
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Like, guys I could tell my biggest issues and insecurities? I can count them with one hand. What? That exists? I have a bunch of male friends I knew since childhood, literally did everything together. Never, even completely drunk (the times I can remember at least), did I ever speak about my feelings to my friends. Shit I don't want to hear their feelings, being with my friends is my escape from reality, feeling like kids when we first played Mario Party as a group. Last thing I'm going to do is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:30 PM
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extra "likes" might serve to show the man she is interested in that she is desirable by others I'm a man. I don't get this. When I browse through tiktok or other websites the last thing I think about is how many like the clip has. I just look at the thumbnail. Even if it had 1 view I would click it if I like the face. If it were my GF I would probably bail if I knew how she makes her money and not think she is more desirable because she has thousands of simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 06:18 PM
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edit: I deleted my comment. I think we went down a weird tangent here. Not going to entertain it anymore, this is weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:58 PM
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To point out the difference in provability.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:31 PM
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I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 05:01 AM
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Proving intent that can be taken back after the fact by changing someone's mind and an assault that leaves physical evidence are completely different. post op you would know which genitals they have before having sex, no? I should clarify, the other person told them they don't intend to have sex with someone not born the opposite gender. I hope know it's clear enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/22 04:58 AM
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I'm not saying they are the same. I'm saying it's useless to look for it when a sentence can destroy that evidence. Even if someone told everyone that it was a trick, they could say that was a lie and they actually thought this time, the 127th one, they thought it was the right one. So why even care. Also post-op answer is missing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:25 PM
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how do you have sex w someone without knowing what genitals they have? After surgery. change their mind afterwards Ah so you have only a problem with people saying they are lying, they just need to change it to "Sorry I've changed my mind" and we are good. Ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:53 PM
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You went through some examples, but I have two more I'd like to know your opinion to: Trans person lies about the sex they were born with Both decide to become parents and have unprotected sex for that reason. It is successful, but she than decides 1. Example: Take the pill right after, 2. Example: to abort the baby a few months later. Was he continuously raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 06:04 PM
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Hm that's interesting. I even read some articles about people wanting it to be counted as rape. Than I ask myself... Who decides when it's manipulation and when it isn't. Are you a trans ally for example? On the manipulation spectrum, what is worse - lying about commitment or lying about the sex you were born with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:54 PM
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Literally Twitter: Person A: I am a married man with three children, my wife loves me and we have great sex. I'm against abortion Person B: Fucking incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:44 PM
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We are talking after the confession.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:41 PM
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If someone is your loyal friend for years and wants you to stay in a friendship that hurts you, that person isn't really your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:27 PM
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Happened to me long ago, I told her that it would hurt my feelings if I saw her with someone else while being romantically interested in her. I asked her, if that happened with me and another women and I asked her as my friend for advice, I'm sure she would tell me to end the friendship so it wouldn't hurt me. Basically, as my friend you'd advice me against our friendship. Otherwise she wouldn't be a friend that wanted the best for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 11:22 PM
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I haven't read anything there for years - so I can be wrong - If I recall it right, the first thing about the rp is that it's your fault and nobody else's. That complaining about a rigged but unfixable game is wasting time on realizing yourself. Back than I realized that meh, they are right that sex isn't that important and it's more important to improve yourself. But since I don't put much worth into improving myself (money and houses already exist) that means that sex is even more worthless. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/22 10:04 PM
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