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For petes sake charity. I really suspect all this talk of 'access' is related to the SOFTWARE, ie pdf reader or archive manager you would have to install to read these files IF you had never used an archive before. Kind of like installing directx the FIRST time you play a game on a windows pc, or installing silverlight the first time you go to netflix.
/r/MensRights17/12/12 05:34 PM
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See this is because the myth of male voracious sexuality is rampant in the media. Because of this myth persons with limited or no experience of male sexuality have the opinion that men always want any form of sex they can get. this is why pre sexual males talk the way they do - thats what they think makes them sound like men. This is why inexperienced females can be so forward with guys they are interested in - nothing in their experience leads them to believe it could be unwanted, even experien…
/r/MensRights16/12/12 03:51 AM
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lol I was persona non grata all day yesterday my friend, look at it for a laugh
/r/MensRights16/12/12 02:36 AM
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It was 15 years ago and ny state but i had a similar situation - it was reimbursement for the medical costs of the birth (welfare) charged as back child support. My story had a happy ending, i hope yours does as well.
/r/MensRights16/12/12 02:30 AM
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What affection actually is, a natural emotion. You may try to define an appropriate time and place for such emotion but i do not expect you to succeed. My own brief time on planet earth stretches allready from the summer of love to this bleak moment, and I hope to live another 40+ years, perhaps more. It takes a certain limited perspective to believe that the circumstances one finds oneself in are somehow 'correct' or 'right' or even 'just the way things are' I am not afraid to want a better wor…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 02:19 AM
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Should I take a seat over there?
/r/MensRights14/12/12 10:48 PM
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I mean only what I said, and I did not say what you accuse me of. I am pleased to hear of your happiness. If believing in the essential goodness of people, and believing that most conflict has it's rots not in malevolence but in misunderstanding is an illness, I do not wish to be cured.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 10:23 PM
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It is my sincere hope that others you encounter in life will be able to succeed where I have failed, and guide you away from repression and into the welcoming warmth of healthy interpersonal relations.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 06:19 PM
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Well, I have been on both sides although it was many years ago. You would never guess to look at me but at one time i was quite the good looking young man lol. two examples spring to mind. In those days there was an area of downtown in my town called 'the square' where young people gathered all day and into the night. There were stone tables and benches secluded little nooks, there were kids from 14 (or so) right on up to 30 ish, mostly uninted by their love of pot and good music, who just stood…
/r/MensRights14/12/12 05:55 PM
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Tyvm for sourcing that for me. As was my take on the Bieber indecent, I think it was properly handled by the 'gropie' or in the parlance of the modern prudism 'victim'. He clearly showed his displeasure and let that be an end to it. That said - of course not everyone has bodyguards and cameras around them. Of course a person can be persecuted by such 'unwelcome advances' a person may find that expressing their displeasure at such contact is in fact NOT sufficient to end it. At that point it beco…
/r/MensRights14/12/12 05:02 PM
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I am neither. There is an entire class of physical contact between living creatures called 'affection', it is entirely a separate thing from other types of contact properly termed 'violence' or 'sex'.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:39 PM
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There seems to be an idea all around us that all affection is sex, all sex is rape. This is clearly false and I do not believe it will never change. Never is a very long time, this prudishness will eventually pass, it's just a question of how many people will will be sacrificed to the gods of misguided political correctness in the mean time.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:12 PM
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If what she did made you uncomfortable, was unwelcome, certainly tell her so in no uncertain terms. I honestly do not know what 'Beckham' style means, I tried to google it, but I pictured the recent Justin Bieber and Selena Gomez indecent. Thing about this stuff is tho, in my opinion, this is an area where I believe we need to 'go forward by going backward' I do not want to live in a world where such actions are criminal. I do not believe that ordinary human affection should be illegal. Either i…
/r/MensRights14/12/12 04:03 PM
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This article is 10 years old at the time of this posting.
/r/MensRights14/12/12 03:31 AM
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Lol you beat me to the punch on the conflation of women with children and old people. have an upvote.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 05:42 PM
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You are a fool. I'll end with the following: You are incorrect sir, the vast majority of civilians killed were Men children and the elderly.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 05:35 PM
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For the love of god noughtagroos, are you actually suggesting that the real life suffering of wonded persons, and the glossing over of their deaths in the news coverage is all made ok or somehow balanced out by the efforts of Hollywood to make a buck on it?
/r/MensRights13/12/12 05:32 PM
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i did read your comment nought, and my reply stands. You begin by saying you disagree and then comes the BUT and after the BUT comes "perhaps she had in mind little details like the fact that the overwhelming majority of the victims of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were women and children. And it's not just the atomic bombs..." So I say, did you even READ the quote? Because that is not what she said, no one here is able to make any case for what she may have had in mind, maybe she was thinkin…
/r/MensRights13/12/12 02:31 PM
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Come now, did you read the quote? "always" "Primary" if she had said survivors also suffer that of course would be a different matter. Also, you say "women and children have been the unsung civilian casualties of war" and yet whenever I hear of war casualties it seems to be only men who are 'unsung' , "35 killed including 6 women and children", "women are reported to be among the dead" and so on.
/r/MensRights13/12/12 01:07 PM
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Regarding adoption, type 'utah' in the search box on this page and tick the 'limit my search to /r/mensrights' box. As for making the concept more accessible I will tell you, anecdotaly, most young men assume they have such an option already. I have had several boys tell me , with perfectly straight faces, about how they would 'sign away their rights' in such a situation - completely , blissfully unaware that their possession of a penis renders them utterly without rights in the first place as r…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 05:35 PM
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You would be hard pressed to find a more strongly pre-loaded politically unpopular phrase then 'financial abortion'. And lets be clear - there is NO abortion of the child involved, and it's NOT a financial issue. It is a human rights issue, where a person elects to not become a father. Because it does not result in the termination of pregnancy isn't it more like a form or 'putting up for adoption' then it is like an abortion? Because fatherhood is so much more then writing checks, isn't this a s…
/r/MensRights11/12/12 03:44 PM
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I am not certain what baldrad has in mind but your poster- which i have seen before- SEEMS to imply a sort of hypothetical situation in which an ideology called feminism is not actively attacking men, rather it has some interest in improving women lives by dealing with women. I quite agree this would be swell, for both sexes, as in your chart but then it would only make sense to have the whole system under one larger organization concerned with human rights in general. This is an egalitarian typ…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 04:32 AM
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Atm i am 2 min into a 17 min vid by Dean Esmay, and it'll likely take me 30 min to watch the whole thing, but I have your paused in another tab for later. EDIT: The Dude abides.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 06:02 AM
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I know several retarded persons. I find in general, since they are used to not understanding things, they just kinda let it go 'like water off a ducks back' as my dad used to say.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:50 AM
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All of my (intended as rhetorical) questions were based on things I have heard persons claim disallow true manhood / womanhood.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:43 AM
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I do not fully understand your reply, but i am certain you are human - neither a creature from space or a machine. I do not know your age or gender, but feel safe in assuming that you either are now or soon will be either a man or a woman. Having said the above, let me wonder aloud if respect for the opposite sex is your only litmus test for true humanity, can you still become a man if you enjoy wearing dresses? What if you own a pink tie? Are you a woman even if you don't cook? What if you are …
/r/MensRights09/12/12 05:17 AM
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Please Al, tell me what is a creature that looks like a man, walks like a man, is genetically a man, and of age, and yet has no respect for women? What is a creature that looks like a woman, talks like a woman, is genetically a woman , and of age, but has no respect for men? Must we dehumanize those whom we dissagree with? Those we find repugnant?
/r/MensRights09/12/12 04:55 AM
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She is trying, i hope she makes it. At the moment tho she still struggles with cog native dissonance, still believes there is a feminism that 'is not like that'. At first she rails against the 'dumbler feminists' who say that a mans opinion is not valid because he has a penis, but later as she talks about a better way, she describes it as only coming when all women band together and 'not listen to what men say'. Who can watch this woman struggle to fit what she has been taught to believe in with…
/r/MensRights09/12/12 01:43 AM
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I really do think the majority of readers are pro mra, or perhaps pre mra . Reddit is a young, unemployed, mostly still in school croud in large part. Your seeds will grow in the fullness of time john, but atm the feminists are allready enjoying fruits of many years work.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:26 AM
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This is largely my point - by taking this hard line egalitarian position we will appeal more to fair minded people who consider themselves feminists only because they do not understand the feminist position - they will wonder , for perhaps the first time, why equal is not enough, and what it is the feminists REALLY want.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 08:12 PM
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This is the point, as i mentioned in another reply - if we take this hard line egalitarian position we force the feminists to argue against it, to come right out and say that no, equality is not enough.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 08:09 PM
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Ahh, exactly. I see it kind of like the current 'fiscal cliff' proposals. If we get behind this we pick up a LOT of egalitarian minded persons who currently, perhaps through ignorance self identify as feminists. So we take the hard line egalitarian position I outlined, and let the feminists argue in favor of bigotry in no uncertain terms.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:36 PM
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I agree on the point about domestic violence I am sure many here do, but if we focus on issues, if we spend our short lives putting out fires, plunging leaks, there will always be new troubles to address. If we can hack at the roots of the thing - the laws that only apply to males, the laws that only apply to females, if we make them invalid ON PRINCIPLE at a very fundamental level of law - we can put gender behind us and get on with our lives.
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:23 PM
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I do not offer this as a way to give feminists what they want. Did you take me for a feminist?
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:17 PM
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Yes, language can be twisted, but I had in mind was a guiding principle of blindness to gender. Something fundamental, at the supreme court level or even constitutional, clearly stating that no recognition of gender can exist in law. With this in place many laws would need to be rewritten in truly egalitarian language, and any interpretations of law will have to be in line with the principle. A basic fundamental principle of law affirming that all persons shall be subject to the same law, withou…
/r/MensRights06/12/12 05:08 PM
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Have not watched yet, I will after typing this but I wanted to mention something here right away. Before watching I googled the guy since I had never heard of him and found on his wikipedia page something that raised a flag - I'm just a casual user of wikipedia and so these may be nothing unusual, but the 'unreliable source' and 'improper synthesis' tags that pepper the article make me fear his page may be under attack by unfriendly editors. These are tags I have never seen before, and I do know…
/r/MensRights06/12/12 04:22 AM
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let's start with "extremes of both sides too, like women talking as though men are sexcrazed idiots who'll rape them the moment the man looks at them, and men talking as though women aren't discriminated against at all in any context" It is bizarre to me that you feel those are somehow equivalent. Take the case of the teen who finds a lost child in a mall and escorts them to securtiy or to look for their parent - because of the sex craze myth he will face public shaming, quite likely a criminal …
/r/MensRights01/12/12 04:52 PM
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First of all i do not feel like my position on this matter actually carries the burden of proof. It was widely accepted, universally accepted throughout human history that men and women worked together, lived together and worked according to their own abilities and natures. There is a great deal of surviving literature and correspondence from the pre feminist world, think of the letters from the civil war - well, where are the letters from the oppressed women?
/r/MensRights30/11/12 08:40 PM
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Try and free yourself from it, it's all you can do. One good place to start it to disabuse yourself of the notion that, as you say " [white men] were historically the oppressors" This is false. All races have kept slaves in the past, all races have been enslaved. The roles of women in society were never oppressive, history has been re-written by feminists. You wont find any such concept had any traction prior to the 1960s, we are just expected to believe the women were all oppressed but didn't r…
/r/MensRights30/11/12 01:26 AM
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To me it's all in the headline - the one posted here is the same as the one on the article "How Two British Women Raped In Barbados Declared Their 'Attacker' Innocent" which names the accused as 'Attacker' calls him guilty and makes the story sound as if his victims had forgiven him - or perhaps been forced to recant. If the Headline had been instead "Two British women, raped in Barbados insist police have the wrong man" the story may still be linked here - as a lil ray of sunshine if nothing el…
/r/MensRights27/11/12 04:44 PM
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There was a post here months ago about this concept, using the phrase "Financial Abortion" and i replied to it saying what an ugly and un apt phrase it was. At that time i was savaged in the comments and even banned for not liking the phrase lol, but i came here to do it again. I am so pleased to see that we as a community are no longer describing this human rights issue as a financial issue, and no longer describing this separation as 'abortion'
/r/MensRights27/11/12 01:42 PM
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Regarding males being shamed for perceived feminine traits It comes from the base idea that female is pure, clean, good a man is insulted by being compared to that because he is seen as 'upity'. Honestly the self enforcement mechanisms for 'Manliness' are the same as the ones for 'Blackness' and just as destructive. Around here, and i guess nationally via tv there is a real 'blackness' culture that polices the young black population, it works in that same way.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 09:47 AM
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Aside from slogans like "real men don't eat quiche" from the 80's, when a real men statement is used in an argument to support or attack a position, it is generally not going to be central to the main argument. If someone tells you to man up and do x, man up and take responsibility for x, the thrust of their position is that you are expected to preform. the statement could not be considered as an example - but look. the scotsman is in there, raising the stakes. A man pays his bills, a man meets …
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:52 PM
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I just can not agree that what makes a man a man is any kind of open question. It may have been so 500 years ago when the answers would have all had recourse to gods or primitive moralities. If a person is an adult, masculinized human, they are a man, or a Man, if the capitalization is deemed significant. I feel this is an important point because of the way it can tend to disenfranchise people, make their suffering seem unimportant or irrelevant. i am thinking of cases where a man struggles to c…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 07:11 PM
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Exactly, there are many men who can say "Well, I'm a man, and i have 2 x chromosomes." So yes, Real men have chromosomes, and in various combinations. edit: ppl don't like the truth, here is a quote According to research at the University of Oklahoma health science centers, most XX males are not stereotypically feminine and are typical boys and men[citation needed] although other reports suggest that facial hair growth is usually poor and libido is diminished, with notable exceptions.[4][5] from…
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:23 PM
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But they do - real men rape. real men objectify women. real men beat their wives. Real men. Real women also do those things, and lots of people who are real men do not do those things, but the idea that a man who does becomes not a man, dehumanized, has got to go.
/r/MensRights14/11/12 03:19 PM
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Check out this screenshot of your rules alongside an animal safety site :)
/r/MensRights08/11/12 02:36 PM
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Its just community. There are very many poor people all through the land but only in very urban / crowded areas do you generally have them spilling out to the streets because every place else in the world ordinary people of the community give them shelter. There is a lot of small towns and farms near here, and many of the people who live and work there lose there jobs and homes in a given month it seems sometimes, yet none ever die in the elements, outdoors from it.
/r/MensRights05/11/12 10:00 AM
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I am sorry but you are just blind to the point. It's just about MEN, the answer to his question "Who is it?" is "Men, mostly" so yeah, come away with "yay men" don't make it about women. It is in the title, there are plenty of useful women about, but we just aren't talking about them for the bulk of his video, since they don't seem to have been outdoors lately where ppl were taking these pics. But yay men, they are out there. Good lookin.
/r/MensRights04/11/12 11:13 AM
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Some liked it, some disliked it - as a writer you did your job - you put this story in their heads, they read it through and came to know your words as if they were people. This person who found the premise unbelievable was still moved to comment on it - and next time they encounter a female abuser they will not view her actions with the same eyes they would have, never having read you.
/r/MensRights03/11/12 08:00 AM
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Here is the video link
/r/MensRights24/09/12 05:49 AM
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There are no bad boys. A quote from Boys Town, old Spencer Tracy movie. That statement carries so much truth in it, so much truth that seems lost to this generation - I am going to try and flesh it out for you John, and for other readers here. There are just a few ideas i want to set out to build upon. The First is the 'general purpose' nature of a human being. Any infant born today can be raised as a native speaker of any natural language. He or she can be raised as a devout believer in any of …
/r/MensRights24/07/12 02:16 PM
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Beautiful sentiment, as a dad i thank you for posting this :) i did try to say as much as a reply on the site but had an issue with the human test, lol
/r/MensRights18/06/12 02:09 AM
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Well it seems a little odd to ask mensrights to clarify the feminist position, clearly we are not fans. I'll take a shot. As far as I can tell, when dealing with the average feminist, what you are actually dealing with is a hatfull of slogans such as 'slut shaming', 'privileged', 'bitter', 'misogynistic', 'Can't get laid', 'neckbeard', 'Mom's basement inhabitant' and they are just mixed and matched at will. Such persons begin with the conclusion "My position is correct' and then they just yell a…
/r/MensRights04/06/12 10:47 PM
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Come now, credit where credit is due - are you sure you were not inspired by the video suggesting this very thing posted in this very sub 14 hours ago and currently a few links above this post? You have done a fine job with it, kinda catchy.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:53 PM
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Maybe they can do a study on who does better after Thanksgiving, farmers or turkeys.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:47 PM
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“ क्लैब्यं मा स्म गमः पार्थ नैतत्त्वय्युपपद्यते । क्षुद्रं हृदयदौर्बल्यं त्यक्त्वोत्तिष्ठ परंतप॥ Translation: Do not yield to unmanliness, O son of Prithâ. It does not become you. Shake off this base faint-heartnedness and arise, O scorcher of enemies! (2.3) ” Swami Chinmayananda writes, "Here in the Bhagavad Gita, we find a practical handbook of instruction on how best we can re-organise our inner ways of thinking, feeling and acting in our everyday life and draw from ourselves a larger gush of…
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:38 PM
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Let me point out that you could better state the artist's position as "I want to teach my daughter to remain emotionally immature and my son to solve all of HER problems with violence" In the posted image, no mention is made of any problems the boy may have, and we can assume the artist would give no fucks for the problems of a mere male.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 03:27 PM
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Trying to wrap my head around specifically the commercial segments he aired. First, the male characters are as he described them, buffoons. We don't like that at all, we are not buffoons. But the female characters, are they actually show in a positive light? After all, those women are violent control freaks. So the part that stops me is, women do not complain about being portrayed as violent control freaks on commercials. I am fairly sure the average female viewer of these commercials would not …
/r/MensRights02/06/12 04:22 AM
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The interview is heavily edited, and i did not bother to look for a cleaner one after having listened to it, because i did not give a crap.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 11:32 PM
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I'm gonna reply again because I tossed that other off a bit to quickly. Theres a lot of 'sacrifice' floating around, it kinda seems like making a big deal out of just plain living. Now, before the other day, if you had said, hey shoreward, tell me about a sacrifice. I would have most likely have told a story about a dragon that demanded a sacrifice from a village every year. In that story, I see myself volunteering to be the one, I will go, bound, to the cave. NOT because I want to be eaten, but…
/r/MensRights01/06/12 09:25 PM
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BUt I do not see that as my only value - In wow I play a ret paladin, thats just art imitating life because my main attribute is strength.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 09:12 PM
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Well, not being named as an enemy class would be a good solid start. After all, what is my crime? Doing my (limited) best to make a place for myself and my family? Growing up the way I expected to / the way I wanted to? Just plain being me? Some men just want to be strong, some women just want to be pretty. Not all, by any means, but some. Where is the harm in it? Typhon I am not saying I am a role model, , I am not claiming to be some archetype ideal man. The very fact of peoples antagonism tow…
/r/MensRights01/06/12 08:44 PM
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IN top level reply to the blog post, let me point out a few things. While the world you live in may be all shiny silicon and plastic, my modern run down little post stimulus shanty town demands sacrifice from all it's inhabitants, with penis and without. Of course I want better for my son, and by the sweat of my body I hope to enable that. HA! I will rejoice on the day my son looks down from his lofty heights of comfort and accomplishment, with pity on his tired old father. edit to add: this
/r/MensRights01/06/12 10:32 AM
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John you'd better find some place in your movement for guys like me and collective here, lol - there's a dozen more of us born every few minutes.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 10:23 AM
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Man that 'old school working man' sounds like a real tool.
/r/MensRights01/06/12 08:12 AM
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If I recall correctly he called out the first few words of my 2nd paragraph and offered a non sequitur about stereotyping
/r/MensRights01/06/12 03:36 AM
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Ok now that was definitely a very bad thing to do. But I can help but admire her amazing , well, balls to try such a scheme. I wonder if she's done it in the past, or learned it from a friend.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 02:42 PM
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Actually, I am fairly certain that special privilege and courtesy toward females has been a hallmark of human cultures yea since the very dawn of time. Isn't there a GWW video on this? As for the specifics of not saying particular words, well that would be cultural I suppose, and subject to fashion as well.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 02:27 PM
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lol only since forever. Are you claiming you have not?
/r/MensRights31/05/12 02:18 PM
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Fair enough, altho i do not see 'man' as a title per se. Hey, I was browsing another sub, atheism, and saw a rage posted. i made a reverse gender one to compare, just to see if I could nail down my own feelings on the matter. The original involved a gender neutral topic where a male tells a female, basically, to man up. So as i say, I reversed the genders. I admit that I do find the second version, the one I made, to be offensive, slightly at least, on an mr type level. But - there shouldn't be …
/r/MensRights31/05/12 02:07 PM
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Here's a side by side: imgur
/r/MensRights31/05/12 12:54 PM
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Dating can be hard, look at all the 'forever alone' or 'friendzone' posts in other parts of reddit. One thing that can help is to clear the hurdle of 'is it a DATE'. Consider the difference between "Hey you wanna get some coffee?" and "Hey, let me take you for coffee'" in the first case you you can certainly cover the check if she's broke, as you might for a guy friend, but in the second you pay.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 12:14 PM
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Would you prefer "We have all heard many women claim the right to decide who is and is not a REAL man" if you want me to source that, screw you. If you deny it - you're a troll.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 11:52 AM
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That may well be so, but it says nothing about my statement quoted above.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 11:37 AM
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We had a phrase that described management trouble in a lot of shopps, I PROMISE nothing racist was meant when we said 'too many chiefs, not enough indians.' that was the phrase, maybe you could translate it as 'To many generals, not enough solders' and we knew that WE were the solders, and there were not enough of us. Can you imagine a world where EVERY boy grows up to be president? Where we are ALL in the top 1% of income? Do you believe you live in a world where all boys even WANT to be presid…
/r/MensRights31/05/12 10:47 AM
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Speaking as a middle aged blue collar dude, I beg you my brothers, do not fall for this. This type of thing is designed to create a false dichotomy, it's crafted to drive a wedge between men. Just keep in mind, those guys on the left, they are called 'dad' by the guys on the right, and there is love between those men. See, females claim the right to define what is a REAL man, they post such a picture, if you happen to see yourself more in the modern column, they hope you will feel resentment tow…
/r/MensRights31/05/12 10:19 AM
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I DO see the pattern, a lot of those men are men like me, a lot of them are men like you, a lot of them are dudes neither of us can relate to - but they are all men. I am not your enemy, just because I exist - feminist attack me, you would have MRAs attack me as well. Could it just POSSIBLY be that part of MRs trouble attaining action is that it turns it's back on the action oriented 'roll up our sleeves and get to work' type man?
/r/MensRights31/05/12 09:57 AM
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And that is where you go wrong. For what rational reason would you fight me? For just being who I am? I never said anything about defining manhood in such a way. I said 'this is me, the way i am, and I am real, valid, I exist' John there will always be men like me - why do we have to be an enemy, when throughout history we have been such an asset? Just because you do not want young men to feel forced to become , idk, 'hardened'? maybe a little dead inside, as I described in my op, hey, for some …
/r/MensRights31/05/12 09:49 AM
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Uh huh, that's what I said - I made you a copy Also, this
/r/MensRights31/05/12 01:47 AM
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For what it's worth the epitaph I would chose for myself is not the one suggested in this thread - I would have "He was better before the nerf"
/r/MensRights30/05/12 09:22 PM
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Herp derp - so you are saying there is no one masculinity, any way of being can be valid - any except mine. loluranidiot. editing - my response stopped above, but then I looked at your history and saw that you are not a troll, which was my assumption, and so I will reply more genuinely. I'm not gonna fisk you, that is frankly silly imho but I will say that since macho means 'manly' and masculine means 'overtly male' then statistics show my behavior in the matter of medicine is actually QUITE mas…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 09:19 PM
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Never that - as I said in my summery, the final paragraph, I am a valid person - that was the point.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:41 PM
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So you just fully agree with me then? That's good to hear. The existence of men who knit has no effect on my manhood, I have never knitted, that does not make me less of a man either. My complaint was the 'flavor' of the image, and a lot of such talk, that for men, freedom= femininity. Certainly for some it does, but that does not make masculine men part of the problem.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 06:19 PM
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From my perspective there is so much more to a man then his sex life, so much that in the measure of a man who he has sex with does not even enter in, assuming he is not hurting anyone. If you think about it, it's just another example of how feminism has changed society, women think men are only good for sex, they tell us, you will do anything for sex, sex is all you want or care about - and some of us seem to believe it.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 05:52 PM
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Well, as for that i have an idea what has gone wrong. We have a lot of individual men who will stand up for themselves, but we lack the ones who will stand up for each other. As men, for at least a LOT of us, we just can not get motivated at all in our OWN interest, we can help others, we do all that we do FOR other people. A lot of us. We work to support our families, we do things to impress people, to help people, we jump on bandwagons to help anyone in need. So - thats it. and where it went w…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:42 PM
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I was not going to reply, i thought "well, that's his opinion" i did not see what I could add. At 1st. I have only said true things about myself as far as I understand myself and am able to cram that understanding into words - you call it "a big bunch of saccharine crap" ~= 'a bunch of sweet tasting stuff' Well, that's my point. Sacrifice is NOT without reward, it is very fulfilling.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 04:30 PM
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Dude YES - I am fully satisfied. While I know that it is true I did not want a child at that time, and I was already concerned about mr type issues. But those memories feel like a story about someone else, someone I used to be, now as a dad, I can not imaging life without my child. Never let me live to see that day, and I am satisfied.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:36 PM
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Push it back a step, it's still the same issue. Me and some other guy, one of us is going down, it's not his fault, it's not my fault. In this version do I know the other guy? Maybe his kids are younger then mine, hey I done bad stuff, I didn't do this but that is not to say i been an angle. So I might just take the fall, ya never know.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:29 PM
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After I broke up with the 7 year girl (whom I had lived with since I was 18 or 19 and she was 21) I went into a period of slutting around, had a steady and the other 5 to round out my eight during this time. I met a girl, she was 19 I was 29, party girl. i really liked her but she split. She came back pregnant, 7 months. I denied, lawyerd up. IMEDIATLY at this point my life changed - I vast about me for a female to be mother to this child. That may seem odd, it's what i did. Without really think…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 03:19 PM
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I want to add something here, I am familiar with the prisoner's dilemma. I saw a lecture on introductory game theory where it was discussed, and all that math will collapse if you assume at the start that one prisoner or the other or both may not be seeking gain as expected. rather then minimizing his time in jail, this prisoner will accept the consequences of his actions, and will honor his word.
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:51 PM
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You miss my point, or I did not express it correctly. I do not know how to do the neat line bordered quote, so please bear with me. First of all, how can I have lived 43 years as a man in the usa without being called a faggot? I assure you I have been so called on several occasions, even recently. Secondly, I have no issue with people being whoever they want to be, or are able to become - more power to them. Just don't act as tho EVERYONE needs to reject traditional masculinised adulthood. Yse I…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:43 PM
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And would I be wrong for feeling such an epitaph was a high compliment indeed?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:23 PM
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I am not hoping to receive any benefit - the top post in the sub atm is about 'oppresive gender roles' and people are eating it up. Well, I made this post, which few will ever see I know, to say that such things are NOT oppression, they are liberating. The entire idea that gender is a social construct and that we are basicly all the same until culture shapes us into men or women is feminist hogwash imho. By buying into it, and turning our backs on masculinity, eagerly lining up to claim victim-h…
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:20 PM
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ticker-tape parade those are out of fashion, but one thing worth noting about them is that they were never for the benefit of the nominal honoree , they were a way for the public to show appreciation for the hard work, and the sacrifices made by their heroes. I have never done anything to inspire such gratitude. Do you believe cockpuncher, that the reason the veterans, astronauts, war heroes, athletes and emperors so honored did their great deeds was because they wanted a parade?
/r/MensRights30/05/12 02:05 PM
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I also feel that way, and if you read me in this topic where you have replied you will see that I have said so, however, I do not feel that all violations are equal. Anywho I said my piece here yesterday, if you care to look it's all there to see.
/r/MensRights28/05/12 10:32 PM
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Personally, i downvoted it because it's a copy paste of the same comment made by the same person, in the chain above this one.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 09:42 PM
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Ok, lets try this again. The topic is called "If circumcision is alright because the child won't remember it, then is date rape alright as well?" so, the (some statement) in question is "it's alright because the child wont remember it" the topic CLEARLY suggests that the same rules must apply to rape as apply to circumcision - I guess it's one of those 'once you see it' type things. I am editing to add the following In your most recent you EXPLICITLY compare circumcision with rape "(they won't r…
/r/MensRights27/05/12 07:13 PM
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How can you claim op did not make this comparison? If (some statement) is true in regards circumcision, then is it also true regarding rape? Come now.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 03:34 PM
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Many redditors think they should downvote anything they disagree with, they think the lil arrows on the left amount to a poll on every comment. Do you agree? Up vote! Disagree? Downvote! Of course this ends up burying any real discussion, they do not agree at a glance and so basicly dictate that no one else should even see it. There was something called ''reddiquette" people used to encourage others to follow that addressed this, but meh. Basically you just have to hope someone sees your comment…
/r/MensRights27/05/12 01:37 PM
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Comparisons, how do they work? Look, you can certainly compare circumcision and rape, my point tho is that it is inappropriate to do so. Why? Well, it's ascetically unpleasing. Any similarity between the two is going to be a stretch, more apt observations are easily made, and after all feminists are noted for comparing any and all slights to rape, must we drop to their level> It's like any other over the top divisive comparison made in a public forum, consider "Godwin's law" "As an online discus…
/r/MensRights27/05/12 01:29 PM
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I often wonder what kind of person is is who names themselves something obscene or disgusting. I saw a guy in wow for example named Jizinpants, ya know a person puts hundreds of hours into a high level wow player, meets lots of people, "HI, I'm Jizinpants" lol what a weirdo. Anyway dessicatedfetus, i said no such thing and you sir or madam, are an ass.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 04:22 AM
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GWW can speak for herself, let people watch the vids. OP links one in that topic, when it comes to GWW there is no such thing as bad publicity, after all, no one will find any basis for the claims op eludes to.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 04:12 AM
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But i did not tell him he was not allowed to compare it to anything he likes, I said it was inappropriate to do so. You seem to feel it was completely fine, and have said so - this is called discussion. I remain unconvinced, i think it's only asking for trouble to have a topic that can truthfully be referred to as ". .. . Is date rape alright as well?" on the front page of the sub, but I'm a non confrontational guy.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 03:55 AM
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That is certainly the case, therefore it is only wise to avoid comparing issues to ones that have a particular charge to them when other less polarizing ones are available. For example, if a person had such a mustache, and you did not wish to raise a nazi specter when mentioning it you ould call it a charlie Chaplin mustache instead. And for the above, compare circumcision something less 'charged' then rape.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 03:36 AM
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It is inappropriate because it suggests that rape is alright, obviously sarcastically, obviously it only asks because it is begging to be rejected but still. Secondly it is inapt because to compare a culturally sanctioned procedure well meaning parents undertake for their sons (even tho it is unjust unhealthy and indefensible) to a nefarious act of personal violation involving a jaded predator and an innocent drugged victim, is a bit of a stretch.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 03:29 AM
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this is completely inappropriate
/r/MensRights27/05/12 03:09 AM
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Loged in to make 2 comments on the above. Number one "If that's your attitude, I;m not surprised you're lonely" is just an awful thing to say. And number 2 I strongly disagree with your equivalency. I assert that the behavior of women in a relationship is greatly more homogeneous then that of men because of their 'own group' effect.
/r/MensRights25/05/12 04:30 AM
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In fact I did not know it came from organic chem, sorry to so dash your hopes. I am sure however that you will be OK in time. "You DID know ..... I hope" together with ""xxxxxxx makes me sad" are insulting to your conversational partner and also They do NOT make you sound all cool and wise and world weary, they are just overused pretentious phrases.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 06:19 PM
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Because that is the language that is approved for use in belittling their opponents, no other reason. In point the Cis-male thing is CLEARLY false. "Cisgender (cis-, "on this side of, not across;" compare cisatlantic, cisalpine) is a neologism meaning "not transgender," that is, having a gender identity or performing in a gender role that society considers appropriate for one's sex. " The mens movement is simply one of several ways in which men are trying to find workable ways to BE male, it ari…
/r/MensRights07/04/12 11:23 AM
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I do not go to 4chan but I kind of feel (perhaps incorrectly but w/e) that I can get an idea of their groupthink/hivemind by researching a subject on AE searched mensrights, searched mra, found the following Feminism just thought some may care to look at that.
/r/MensRights10/03/12 03:56 PM
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To the top with you good sir.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 12:19 PM
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"It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation" But no examples are offered, of this laxity. And we are off, running away with ourselves trying to figure out where we went wrong, what we can do to appease these fat cat southern lawyers over at SPLC. The accusation they have made is false full stop. Our only response can be to demand it be removed or sue for libel. Every MRA here knows to count lawyers among the enemies of our civil rights.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 05:55 AM
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Here is what I fear would happen. [Boss Hogg, what can we do to get off your list?] <Well, yall need to ban more people, at the very least, don't let me see no one on there talkin smack bout no women> [Ok Boss, we been banning up a storm over here! You see, we got no anti women stuff at all now, just pro men! Can we get off the list?] <Haha not so fast boy, look I'm on your side here but I need to see some real improvement, show me your heart is in it, maybe you can get some females more involve…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 04:49 AM
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replying to my own, I hope this is not a foux pas but whatever, here it is. I have been online since BBS days, and I have this to say about moderation: Moderation is bad. Reddit has downvotes, and only by downvoting posts can we show that we disagree with them, make them disappear and you create the illusion that no one has ever offered these opinions. I look at it like /ignore in wow (I play way too much wow) I have NO ONE on my ignore list, many people just put everyone on their ignore as soon…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 04:31 AM
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Yes but this is an AWFUL term. Again I say, this is NOTHING like an abortion, it is like 'giving up for adoption' and even tho that does not roll off the tongue so smoothly that is a better way to describe it. what we need is a poet or wordsmith of some kind to give us a better phrase for it, one that does not use terms such as finance and abortion, both of which are loaded terms and set the whole concept up to be hated by ppl of many different political stripes.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 04:14 AM
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sorry for the delay in my response. Well, your scenario would be horrifically unjust. But, it would be unjust in a way similar to what men have now. As far as actual solutions, I do have the germ of an idea. Let all adults have the right to procreate, but neither the guarantee nor any obligation to do so. Let all children have the right to 2 parents. And then leave it at that. In this framework, a woman can abort, a man can chose to accept a role of parent, or refuse it, as can a woman, either b…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 04:07 AM
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Thank you for your interest, I shall take the time to tell you what I am thinking. I am thinking 1st, that even tho people toss around the phrase "Financial abortion" the idea they are referring to is in fact, NOT an abortion, and not a medical procedure at all. The reason this is so important is because it is by mixing such apples and oranges that false equivalences are made. As I stated in another reply, what we call financial abortion is more similar to giving up for adoption then it is simil…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 02:21 AM
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Well, it may not be quite as obvious as you think. I am aware of the back story, and that you were using the exam as an equivalent of the trans vaginal ultrasound, I loved Jon Stewart's take on it, more so because I had just watched Clockwork Orange with my 13yo son the week before and he was pleased to see and understand the references to that film in Stewart's piece. But please consider, for men there CAN BE no equivalent to trans vaginal, women DO have butts ya know, so the comparison runs a …
/r/MensRights09/03/12 02:05 AM
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If any mods read this I beg you to not go down this ever narrowing path. They call us a hate group for one simple reason, they are a business that deals in hate groups, the more hate groups they can find the more markets they open.
/r/MensRights09/03/12 01:53 AM
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Because thats what men want amiright? To abdicate their responsibilities. Disgusting, that an idea like this is so rampant in the mens rights movement. - NOT the idea that a man should be able, as a woman is, to do so if that truely IS his desire, or he finds it necessary - but the idea that this is what a man is and should be expected to want. The better question in my mind would have been, would you consent to this exam for a presumption of full custody. As a man, you can have full access to y…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 01:48 AM
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Stay strong
/r/MensRights09/03/12 01:01 AM
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Here Here! I say old boy!
/r/MensRights05/03/12 08:04 AM
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Well, again I point at those 2 links above, the ones truthjusticea posted. Consider what the female suicide rate might be now if it were not for all the cultural support they receive, without their government help net and their sisterhood. SOMETHING has changed, it has made men unhappy, it has made women so unhappy that even with all the world rigged in their favor they are STILL unhappy, not quite suicidal, not quite yet. This thing has impacted the happiness of the sexes separately, but in syn…
/r/MensRights05/03/12 05:40 AM
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WE did not GO anyplace, what actually happened if one (1) person posted the phrase you quoted as link text, 3 layers deep, and then YOU used that to pain an entire discussion and all it's participants as 'bitter' also please note that you can not interpret the statement as being bitter rather then just bigoted unless you read it LOOKING for bitterness. I COULD click your name and see if you made other comments, but honestly, I wouldn't click that with a feminists mouse. :)
/r/MensRights05/03/12 05:11 AM
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Your 2nd link just opened my eyes to something I felt I had to share. Together with some other stuff i have seen here, your link gelled the idea for me. As much as we men are impacted by Feminism, and it can be a lot, women are MORE strongly influenced by it. Feminism is making BOTH men and women live in ways that are not natural to them, are not fulfilling to them, lead to unhappiness. Men are told what they can do by Feminism, women are told what to do, and what to WANT. And it is enforced by …
/r/MensRights05/03/12 01:56 AM
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no just making the observation, many of the things 'evil oppressive men' do, their most awful crimes, really seem like 'no harm no foul' type things to me. Rape is terrible, but expand the definition of rape to include having consensual relations with a rational adult woman who had a beer earlier and then I'm going to HAVE to say, hey, no harm no foul.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 08:25 PM
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Or he must be beaten, he must have REAL PHYSICAL harm done to him because of the emotional harm this woman has suffered. That is IMHO the root unjust double standard at the heart of this whole mess. She has not got a mark on her, she was maybe a little scared or just uncomfortable, he needs 20 years as punnishment, no specific case in mind.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 08:15 PM
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making a joke or implying a joke that one may want to kill ones husband does not constitute misandry 'hatred of all men' Feminism uses such tactics, we need to be careful. We do NOT want women to be judged as harshly as men, we want all people to be judged fairly.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 03:29 PM
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semi off topic, i have seen a couple posts from this blog recently, why is it that the text has all these a-with-a-carrot symbols peppered through it? See my ss at http://imgur.com/of04S. firefox / xp. Interesting blog, great to see it, hard to read.
/r/MensRights04/02/12 07:44 PM
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If the idea were successful then the problem would be solved: by definition. My objective here is not to argue at all, but to stir up some of us and ignite action. The idea I presented may be flawed in its particulars and even if it went forward would certainly be much fleshed out and altered before the day came. It is that fleshing out of ideas that I seek. I like this subreddit, well, I like that it is here, and I find it a good source of information some times but in the end it can be seen as…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:34 AM
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That is pretty much what we have now - all men are guilty and can never be proven innocent. Please suggest a course of action.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 01:01 AM
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Something needs to be done brother, we can not call ourselves men and just stand idly by, complaining on a message board while the drag us off 1 by 1. Yes, no guarantee of success. Hey, I'm not married to the idea, if you have a better one please share it.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 12:59 AM
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Obviously this is NOT the worst idea ever, or even close. Obvious yes, I know you did not mean that seriously - just pointing out that you made a snide comment instead of saying something serious - do you think that is constructive? Regarding the more meaty portion of your statement please consider: We can not have it both ways. Either A: It is not a crime to make a false report (when it should be) and so the women will have nothing to fear, or B: It IS a crime and so we have nothing to complain…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 12:56 AM
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Just imagine the corporate news at 6 "Due to rape allegations, all male students at MIT have been expelled" "Every member of the city council in Sometown has been arrested on sex crimes allegations" Just as it took men to work with feminists to get equal rights passed, so if we can find women to work with us we can end the false rape society.
/r/MensRights13/10/11 07:24 PM
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well, these people decieved each other, the child claiming to be 20 years old, the woman claiming to be only 1 year older when she was 15 years older. The important thing tho is that at the time of the arranged meeting the woman KNEW the boy was only 15, and she had naughty pics of him on her phone, This is clearly child porn and she was convicted of that. So there is no example of 'fucked up laws being pressed' here, unless you think child pornography should be legal, and hay, it always was in …
/r/MensRights17/09/11 10:34 AM
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