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Nah, don't do that. Anybody over the age of 25 is really out of touch with what dating is like for young people. You can't just roll your eyes because you don't understand how bad things have gotten. Even the young men who are successful with women realise how shit dating is, it is not just an incel problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:24 PM
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Who's going to tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 02:26 PM
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I would say no, the vast majority of people don't know what characteristics make for a good partner for them. I disagree with this. There are very clear and objective characteristics that make up a good partner and people know what they are. However, they aren't always ready for a relationship and so they deviate from selecting those with qualities that make up a good partner in order to date around. Women do this when they friend-zone good men to date losers and men do this when they look over …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:38 AM
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I've noticed that it has become easy for people to acknowledge that looks matter but it is hard for them to admit that their own perception of people is influenced by what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:22 AM
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You're missing the mark. These men are pre-selected, the only way that they don't get a woman is by giving them a reason to dislike him. This is a stark contrast to other men, who have to give a woman a reason to like him. This is isn't something to brush under the rug because men can use this information to realise that the most significant thing they can do to alter their dating experience is to focus on what they look like. The advantage granted to men for looking better than other men is ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 07:46 AM
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Why have no women responded to this? They need to come to terms with this already and accept that these "average men who impress me" are doing a lot more than they give them credit for to bypass their chad-only wall. Women who do realise this also need to understand that this isn't a positive, either. You shouldn't be telling a man that what you found attractive about him was how hard he had to try to get your attention, that is hardly a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 06:17 AM
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Are you saying that there is a disproportionate amount of women that value committed relationships in comparison to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:38 AM
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But the fact that there has been a steady increase shows that a greater portion of women are willing to “marry down” so to speak than before. I would argue that they aren't anymore willing to "marry down" at all, those men are likely more attractive than them or, like you said, still make more money than them. Women are hard-wired to seek someone that is above them and her class, income, or own physical-attractiveness has no impact on this. Also, you didn't even argue his point that those women …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:25 PM
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That doesn't counter my point, though. There would still be balance in the dating market. Both men and women would have equal opportunity and, sure, this does remove power from women and allows men to not ned to commit for consistency but, like I said, the result of this balance can be discussed all day long. edit: spelling error.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:01 PM
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If men and women were equal in sex-drive and willingness to approach, then the dating market would balance out. We can discuss the specifics all day long as to what this would mean but there would be balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:56 PM
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There are women that I know who'd consider me their friend but I don't view them in that way because our "friendships" consist of me doing my own thing and them wanting to be a part of it. There just isn't anything mutual about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 04:50 PM
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I believe that men should not aim to be friends with women (at least, those that they find attractive) because women understand their power in this position and will abuse it. I hinted at that here. If a man wants to befriend a woman that badly, she should be one that he is not drawn towards in a sexual manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:36 PM
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I don't recall saying that women were fun to hang around with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:31 AM
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There's no reason for a man to put himself in that position to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:25 AM
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No, the other way around. I believe that men should not aim to be friends with women (at least, those that they find attractive) because women understand their power in this position and will abuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 08:22 AM
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Most women understand that their male friends would have sex with them if they gave it up. They know what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:56 AM
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Something you're choosing to ignore, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 07:47 AM
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To the people who keep rejecting that it is, are people on Tinder robots? Or are they the same human beings that you meet at work, at clubs, at social events etc...The idea that Tinder and people's behavior outside of it are on two different planes of existence is a very naive thought to have, these are the same people and they will act in the same way. Maybe it's just the word, "Tinder", that makes people doubtful of its validity so how about any social media platform? After all, most couples t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 06:03 AM
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Fair, fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:54 PM
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I don't think wanting less social interaction necessitates being less confident, assertive or socially competent at all. When wanting less social interaction is that person's default state, I would argue otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:35 PM
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I won't doubt if you find him attractive but I assume that, as an introvert, he doesn't have the characteristics that most women would expect from a man like the ones that I listed previously; confidence, assertiveness and being socially-adpet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:33 PM
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What do you think are the male expectations that fit better with extroversion? All of them. Being sociable, talkative, assertive, lively etc... Extroversion is, basically, comparable to having big dick energy. Do you think there are any that fit with introversion? Women can probably appreciate a couple of the behaviours that come with introversion but I don't think that any of them fit the male-expectation, no. Curious because I've never heard of ex/in being sex specific before. Oh, don't get me…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:26 PM
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There are expectations placed on both genders, though, when it comes to attracting somebody. Introverted men just do not meet male-expectations (in behaviour) but extroverted men do which is why I say that extroversion is a male trait. I'd attribute this to being as strong of a reason as to why introverted men are mostly single. Even if one is out and trying to get women, they aren't going to compete with an extroverted-male.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:15 PM
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I would however, say there is an expectation that to be a attractive, a man needs to be confident and socially competent, but someone can be those things and still be introverted. I hear this a lot but I'm yet to witness a confident, assertive and socially-adept introvert. Being an introvert i.e. wanting less social interaction, comes with a lack of the former traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:10 PM
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Eh, I think that introverted men simply fail to fulfil one of the most important male expectations, which is to be extroverted. They are the complete opposite of the male expecation and women don't find that attractive, even when they meet one who didn't stay inside. Oppositely, introversion is a female expectation and extroverted women can be viewed as too masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 02:03 PM
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If that is what she claimed, I would then ask her if she is capable of being turned on by the thought of intelligence when no man is attatched it. I suspect that the answer would be no because, without the man of her physical-ideal, sexual desire can not exist. edit: fixed spelling mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:34 PM
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The intelligence wouldn't add sexual attraction, though, which is the argument being made. Sexual-attraction is a very specific type of attraction and shouldn't be confused for other things that have nothing to do with wanting to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:23 PM
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Would you ever make the argument that it is harder to please men than it is to please women? If not, that's really all you need to ask yourself to conclude that women have a narrower range in what they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:20 PM
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Why would this concept not be broad? Scenarios of danger are never consistent. If you really need such a specific, single example of this (for whatever reason), try women expecting men to nullify conflicts that had nothing to do with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:56 AM
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Interesting...Here's one of many.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 11:01 AM
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An example of women expecting men to protect them? Do you really need me to site a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 05:00 AM
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Don't all women think this because they underrate men and overrate women, though? With the way women rate both sexes, most women would be above-average and most men would be below-average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 09:04 PM
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That's quite the example, lol. What I had in mind was more of a day-to-day scenario for which I've seen women (and some men) complain about men's lack of intervienence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:30 PM
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My threshold for looks is very reasonable. As someone invested in the lookism side of things, I'd like to know what this means. Do you mean that a reasonable amount of the men you come across are attractive (to you) or do you mean that you acknowledge average men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:20 PM
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What does this change? Women practice the same behaviour of physical-selectivity whether on Tinder or not. Tinder is just one of the easiest sources to site as an example of this. Outside of the internet, most women will admit that they still find most men unattractive and wouldn't talk to them without a strong reason to. edit: fixed a sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:54 PM
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The belief that women are entitled to the protection of men, especially men that they do not know. To the women who still believe this, do realise that this is a privilege that only some men choose to grant. I'll say it again, it is a privilege that only some men choose to grant. Protect yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:39 PM
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This is a great question for women and if you could make a post asking this same question it would be interesting to see their responses. Can they accept that they've brought into this world a man who they, themselves, would have rejected? And what do they tell him, knowing that women like herself exist. I'm fascinated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 05:32 PM
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You have to respect that the reason a lot of men think like this comes from how women, themselves, are acting. Men are exposed to women telling them how they want to be treated, only to watch them showcase the complete opposite of their "wants" in their behaviour. It's only natural for men to develop these thoughts and if you don't wish to be viewed in this light then you have to prove them wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 01:40 PM
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To this, I'd like to add that people with previous sexual partners are likely to deplete their sexually-explorative side by the time they get married. This means that they are already familiar with what they are into and what they aren't into and have little reason to be sexually-explorative with their partner. It's a backwards situation to be in and one that can disconnect intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:35 AM
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There are few things that are more life-changing than a good surgery. Even if you're a man who's already invested in their looks via accepted methods like working out, altering your bone structure will still go a long way. The male-lookism community is often viewed with disdain (which is a stark contrast to how people view the female-lookism community) and for no good reason. Men shouldn't be confined to basic fitness as their only avenue of self-improvement and it's deplorable of people to be s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:16 AM
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