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1	#WeAreIrish I didn't say exclusively people of African decent. Uh... And yet you will reduce "Irish" to an African, even though that's not the majority? i.e, you said that I would be making Irish === African. Reducing to, in the way you used it, would be like saying 'You're reducing all soldiers to jarheads?' because I said soldiers include jarheads, which would be, factually, wrong. Synechdoche is the word you're looking for. Sure, in terms of "nationality", anyone that can obtain approval and a rubber sta…	/r/PussyPass	26/04/17 11:40 AM
1	#WeAreIrish I wonder why I said lines in the sand. Focus on reading what I'm saying.	/r/PussyPass	26/04/17 09:10 AM
0	#WeAreIrish And what makes those Europeans American? Government institutions. What makes new immigrants American? Government institutions. Lines in the sand, drawn by the American forefathers of the nation.	/r/PussyPass	26/04/17 03:22 AM
0	#WeAreIrish Uh, no, since I'm against implying a mutual exclusivity of ethnicities to a citizenship. My point is that you can't say that Irish, in terms of nationality, is 'one' ethnicity (and, excuse me being a bit pedantic here, but 'African' represents a whole lot of different ethnicities). Ethnicities are real, they're also fluid, and they're dependent on things like genetic markers and a history. This is true. Nationalities, however, are extremely loosely based on ethnicity only because of what they lo…	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 11:17 PM
1	#WeAreIrish Tbh even 'English' is a messy one. Are the English those from Northumbria? Wessex? Mercia? West Anglia? All? What about the Roman genes splattered across the English isles? Would you say they're less 'English'?	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 10:44 PM
1	#WeAreIrish "America" wasn't a thing before the English and Dutch came. Well then, would you say the Romans of Romulus would be the same Italians, or Romans (which people still call themselves) actually ancestrally the same thing? Even Ireland, as a country or nation or whatever, existed thousands of years after the 'Irish' ethnicity. America was always a continent with its own cultures and people, but it wasn't a 'thing' until it became colonised and recognised as a defined territory, and later on a sovere…	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 10:24 PM
-1	#WeAreIrish He'd be of German ancestry, at best, especially if he culturally acts Japanese. And, of course, seeing as people of all ethnicities, including all the white ethnicities, have been mixing, saying you're 'biologically German' would mean even less now than it did in the 20th century. We do know that in the last 18,000 years the Rb1 YDNA haplotype surfaced, and today is most concentrated in Western Ireland, and spreads outwards into the Atlantic and Northern Europe from there. This is the most 'Iris…	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 09:50 PM
0	#WeAreIrish Ireland is also a country, not an ethnicity. Don't forget that there is an 'ethnic' american and 'ethnic' Irish that predate, and have been outdated by, governments. 'We are Irish' refers, as anyone should be able to realise, to citizenship. If one is a citizen, and not a visitor, in Ireland, then they are Irish. They can mention whatever ethnicity is also theirs, but they are Irish in the eyes of every government and institution. So all this drama, saying 'no you aren't you brown kike', is pant…	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 09:09 PM
2	#WeAreIrish By that logic the only Americans are Native Americans. What's the white population of the country going to tell an embassy or customs when crossing borders? 'I'm one fifth French, one sixteenth Chinese, a quarter Spanish, eighth Libyan?' or some shit like that? No, whatever their citizenship is, because that's what counts here.	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 08:58 PM
-1	#WeAreIrish Defined by what, exactly? Basque gene? Clan names? And let's not forget that, practically speaking, nationality is what we're talking about here. An Irish citizen is Irish, though their ancestors may not be.	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 08:44 PM
1	#WeAreIrish Well, that seems proportional.	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 04:07 PM
-4	#WeAreIrish Irish isn't a race, last I checked.	/r/PussyPass	25/04/17 03:54 PM