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Red Pill Theoryshutayooface/r/TheRedPill12/07/14 02:41 PM
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Red Pill Theoryshutayooface/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 02:18 PM
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Blue Pill Exampleshutayooface/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 06:47 PM
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shutayooface/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:21 PM
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Purple Discussionshutayooface/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 08:16 PM
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Purple Discussionshutayooface/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 07:28 PM
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shutayooface/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:34 PM
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Ask Red Pillshutayooface/r/TheRedPill03/06/14 11:59 PM
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Red Pill Theoryshutayooface/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 04:32 AM
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I cannot recommend "the rational male" highly enough. IMHO it is THE redpill resource.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 04:46 PM
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You are discovering RP at 16? You lucky son of a bitch. I wish I'd found it that young.
/r/TheRedPill06/01/15 04:08 PM
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"Why are only women called 'sluts'?" "I don't know, why are only men called 'cowards'?"
/r/TheRedPill03/01/15 02:37 PM
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Doesn't work for me. Any new accounts are shadowbanned before the first post. I think they are banning on IP address.
/r/MensRights18/12/14 01:43 PM
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That's odd. I can't get it to open in IE or Chrome. But it will open in Firefox.
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 04:45 PM
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I'd like to read it. I liked part one, but I keep getting..."This page can't be displayed"
/r/TheRedPill10/12/14 03:07 PM
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Rollo didn't introduce me to RP philosophy, but he made it make sense. My forehead was red for a week after finding his blog from slapping it so many times ("how did I not see this before"!!)
/r/TheRedPill23/11/14 01:49 PM
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I'm sort of the exact opposite of OP. I long ago realized feminism is a flawed theory. But only recently have I awoken from my Disney inspired romantic fantasies.
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 02:47 PM
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It was certainly an eye-opening experience. How little things become a huge hassle when you are disabled, and how a small assist from a stranger can make such a difference. It sucked to be in that position, but at least I tried to learn something from it. Now, I'll always go a little out of my way for someone on crutches or in a wheelchair. I also learned something about women. When I was first injured I assumed women would be the most likely to have sympathy for an injured person and help them …
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 02:13 PM
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A few years ago I injured my leg and for a few months had to get around with a cane and bulky knee brace. 100% of the strangers who offered me help in any way were men. Not one woman held a door for me or offered her seat. Quite the contrary, they'd routinely let doors slam in my face (knocking me down on one occasion, she didn't even look back) or rushing by me to get the last seat, making me stand. The experience made me stop behaving with any chivalry towards able bodied female strangers, but…
/r/TheRedPill29/09/14 01:42 PM
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Alpha Fux "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" Chuck Berry http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q87sLq6gBXE
/r/TheRedPill21/09/14 01:15 AM
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Who's more alpha? The 6'2" good looking guy who marries a 9/10 ex-slut (his "soulmate") who then cheats on and divorce rapes him? Or... The dumpy 5'4" guy who never pulls higher than a 6/10, but spins them as plates and dumps them when they get to be a pain?
/r/TheRedPill20/08/14 06:32 PM
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http://therationalmale.com/ Read the entire site...and then read it again.
/r/TheRedPill16/08/14 04:57 PM
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"There there baby...It's ok, you really are pretty and not at all overweight. That bouncer was a big poopoo head. Your outfit is fabulous There there baby..." The entire comment section.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 06:35 PM
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I pm'd the OP with the link. Maybe he'll check it out. I am amazed at the absurd lengths some will go to prevent men from checking out RP for themselves.
/r/TheRedPill10/08/14 02:46 AM
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'"I have heard from other people that women see guys in two different ways, guys who are made for fucking, and guys that they settle down with. Does this mean she isn’t really attracted to me?" http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/ The above link deals with a situation very similar to the one described. It explains very precisely what is going on and would be a valuable read for the OP." That's the post I made in response to the thread, the one and only post I've ever made on th…
/r/TheRedPill09/08/14 10:13 PM
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The posters may have been uniformly negative, but it would not be surprising if a few lurkers checked out TRP out of curiosity. A few of them will realize it has value and BAM new members.
/r/TheRedPill29/07/14 02:02 PM
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"Don't call my name out your window, I'm leaving. I won't even turn my head. Don't send your kinfolk to gimmie no talkin'. I'll be gone like I said You'd just say the same old things you've been saying all along. Lay there in your bed and keep your mouth shut till I'm gone. Don't give me that old familiar cryin', cuss and moan. Understand your man I'm tired of your badmouthin' Understand your man" Johnny Cash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62bmj20zHa4
/r/TheRedPill26/07/14 09:03 PM
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A woman doesn't love a man. She loves the way he makes her feel. It is the feeling that she loves. When a man no longer produces that feeling in her, she will stop "loving" him.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 10:46 PM
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A list of good anti-feminist videos from Girlwriteswhat. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbA7X2U_AzlKZhRkaHH-cJgRq9azNygpV
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 09:24 PM
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therationalmale Imo, it is the single best redpill resource. That's the website that put it into perspective for me and made me really understand the RP idea. Girlwriteswhat on youtube is great for anti-feminist arguments.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 02:12 AM
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So, when Hillary and her supporters are accusing everyone who disagrees with her of "sexism" and "misogyny", we should keep silent on the fact she laughed and bragged about getting an acquittal of someone she believed was guilty of raping a 12 year old girl. Not worth mentioning, eh?
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:37 PM
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No, I didn't know you had a site. I'm not sure what we are arguing at this point. It was ok for HRC to get an acquittal for an accused rapist, that was her job and everyone deserves energetic counsel. It is not ok for her to laugh and brag about getting an acquittal for someone she thought was guilty of rape and then turn around and use "war on women" rhetoric like a club against her opponents. It's hypocrisy, and hypocrisy is bad.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:20 PM
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Some right-wingers have a sorry history of getting "tough on rape" (at the expense of the wrongly accused) to score political points. And left wingers don't do this?! It was the current Democratic administration that sent the recent letters to colleges urging them to rein in due process for men accused of sexual assault.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 02:04 PM
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No, that's the straw man you keep building. She laughed and bragged about getting an acquittal for someone she believed was guilty of raping a 12 year old, and now she is going to play the "war on women" game against her opponent.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:46 PM
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What I am attacking is her hypocrisy. It's not fact that she got an acquittal for an accused rapist that's the problem. It's the fact that she brags about it. Were her and the Dems not constantly unfairly accusing their opponents of sexism and misogyny , this would be a non-story.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:42 PM
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Fine. Point the hypocrisy I believe that's what I was doing.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:34 PM
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Never said it was wrong to for her to defend her client. But I don't want to hear "war on women" rhetoric coming from someone who laughed about freeing someone she herself believed was guilty of raping a 12 year old girl.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:32 PM
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She and her supporters are going to play the "war on women" card every single chance they can get.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:29 PM
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It was a Democratic administration that sent out the recent letters to American colleges urging them to give the accused less due-process rights in sexual assault cases. The "defender of women" (as she will portray herself in the upcoming election) LAUGHED about getting someone she herself believed was guilty off of a charge of raping a 12 year old girl. She doesn't deserve punishment for it (except perhaps for breaking attorney/client confidentiality) but the voters deserve to know.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 01:13 PM
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Considering the Democratic party's "war on women" rhetoric, and HRC constantly being held up as some sort of feminist icon, I think the story is extremely relevant.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 12:44 PM
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Do people you know in real life know what "red pill" is? I'm not asking if they agree or disagree with it, are they even familiar with the term? I'm not trying to make a point, I'm asking.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 12:27 AM
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I remember you from that thread. You made some very good points. I think you are right, I went in too gangbusters when being subtle would have worked better. I'll remember that for future situations.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 08:35 PM
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Trying to shake up the mindset a little. Maybe a few guys saw it before it was deleted and it might cause them to question a few things. You never know.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:33 PM
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It's more a speedbump than a roadblock. I've won out over taller guys on a number of occasions.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:30 PM
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It's like saying Marxism is in favor of the profit motive. I think what often happens is that people lump everything they don't like together and just call it "RP".
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:20 PM
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I agree. I joined to post that particular thread.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:14 PM
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My most vicious critic was a 6'1" gay guy! Because of course, he knows exactly what dating is like for a short straight guy, right?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 07:12 PM
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So you will love a man as long as he "enhances" your household? If not, you have no use for him. You just keep proving my point. You don't love a man, you love what he does for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 02:06 AM
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spin hamster spin It's so funny when BPers prove RP ideas. "Goals", "doing all he can" do you even hear yourself? If he doesn't produce, he's gone. You're right you're not his mother, and therefore your love of him will always be conditional on his having "real" goals ("real" being defined by you of course). You don't love him, you love what he does. If he doesn't produce, that in your mind proves he doesn't love you and "he can go fuck a crack in the wall" This is why the OP is not nearly as ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 01:57 AM
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This is what is known as the "rationalization hamster". Three full paragraphs of you dancing around your desire and tendency to leave non-productive men. You don't love him, you love his "standards". If he has goals and is doing stuff, you'll stay with him. But if he doesn't live up to the standards that "any sensible person" (ie you) says he should, then you have no use for him. You are going to leave him for his own good? How noble of you! LOL, NAWALT indeed!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 12:59 AM
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You're making generalzations based on stereotypes. You are doing the exact thing you criticize RPers for.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:56 PM
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You've made it clear you value men for how they perform rather than who they are, and that you see that as the norm. Maybe all women aren't like that, but you sure seem to be. Am I "damaged goods" because I noticed that? You make my point for me even as you try to argue against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:53 PM
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"men don't care so much about that." Now who's full of gender stereotypes? More women initiating divorces means more women want divorces. Your tap dancing is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:43 PM
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I Edited because I changed my mind about disclosing family details (thanks for respecting that by the way) I saw the action unfold so I think I can probably judge who was full of it. The BPers love condescending shaming language don't they? No, I'm not "damaged goods", I'm someone who learns from experience. You also ignored the point you yourself made about valuing a man for what he does rather than who he is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:38 PM
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As your post suggests, it's a man's job to perform, and if he doesn't, she has no use for him. Would a mother stop loving her child because their "standards" are too low? Do you understand the difference between loving a man, and loving what he does and how well he performs? THAT'S what the OP is talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:16 PM
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"That's why most places have a time requirement in divorces" Most places? Only 17 out of the 50 US states require a time limit. "it is still possible to stop it if both parties agree" If both parties agree. It's silly that you are trying to argue that the fact that over 70% of US divorces are initiated by women isn't relevant to this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 11:08 PM
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A better analogy would be a sick dog. Women are more likely to say "put it down" compared to men, who are more likely to want to try to save it. Could the dog be saved. As a practical matter probably not, since one owner has given up on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 10:13 PM
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Bad analogy, a relationship isn't a living being that is either dead or alive. It's the interplay of two individuals. It doesn't just "die"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 10:06 PM
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Women are on a tighter timeline in all sorts of ways, it makes sense they'd be more in a hurry to be socially recognised as marriagable again Yup, you kind of made my point for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:57 PM
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Maybe in that stage most relationships fall apart because you really start to see a person as they truly are and there is a huge chance that you just aren't compatible, not because women see the man as weak and loose interest in them. Sometimes it may be issues of "incompatibility". But think very often that's a dodge. I think a very common reason a woman loses interest after a man opens up is precisely because she realizes he wasn't as strong as she first thought he was. No scientific studies t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:40 PM
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A lopsided majority of divorces are initiated by women. This tells me women are likelier to jump ship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:32 PM
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I think some redpillers determine love as putting someones needs above their own needs I disagree that that is the most common view. True love is the ability to let your guard down without losing her respect (and hence love). Maybe that's the big difference. A woman's sexual interest in a man is more dependent on her respecting him than vice versa. If a man loses a woman's respect (for appearing too weak for instance) she will usually lose sexual interest in him and then the love will dry up. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:24 PM
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I suspect that women CAN love men in the same way that men love women, but I think it's easy for men (and even women themselves) to mistake this "in love with being in love" feeling in women for true love. And yes, I do think the "ILWBIL" feeling is more common in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:17 PM
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Which is why I'm on the fence on this one. It's hard to make absolute statements on this, and I'm uncomfortable with RP doing so. But on the other hand, I've personally seen the "lost frame" scenario played out enough that I'm not ready to completely discount it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 09:03 PM
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The women are already chiming in, and that's good. But there's a problem. Having never experienced love as a man, how can you say you feel it the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:48 PM
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In the theater shooting in Colorado there were a number of stories of men throwing themselves in front of the women they were with, saving the women but dying in the process. And I can remember reading other such stories. They aren't everyday occurances, but they aren't THAT rare, either. I can't remember reading an instance where a woman gave her life to save a husband or boyfriend. Perhaps I just missed it? For me, the jury is still out on this particular question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:40 PM
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When all the data is shouting "The theory is wrong!" I think that's a bit presumptuous. The "data" is the topic of discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:30 PM
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Can women love? They can certainly love their children. I don't think anyone doubts that. And I would say they can love parents and siblings of both sexes. The question you really want to ask is; can women love husbands and boyfriends in the same way those men are capable of loving them? I don't mean to be nitpicky, but I think it's an important distinction
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:20 PM
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You completely ignored the question of who makes league determinations. Is Angelina Jolie out of Billy Bob Thorton's league? One might think she was but she didn't think so.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 08:03 PM
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I wouldn't even let you smell my pussy. Missing out on the odor of your vagina is no great loss, I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:42 PM
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Sex with the elderly carries a higher risk of mutation than incest with a sibling. You make all sorts of claims like this but you never back anything up. Did you notice all the links I provided to fertility websites and scientific papers to back up my arguments? Calling me a Pedo because I understand basic human reproductive biology is pretty low, and shows that you have let emotion and your own age related self-conciousness cloud your reasoning. I'm already older than you and I spin plates just…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:34 PM
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I think straight men have more self awarness (or are more honest)about their attraction triggers than straight women. I believe the numbering system is used to quantify female attractiveness so as to better describe a particular woman's level of attractiveness to other men. "Likewise wouldn't the lack of "alpha" signals be indicative of a symptom wrong with the guy, at least if you follow the alpha-beta and/or omega model?" Not sure what you mean by that. Lack of alpha qualities would likely mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 07:25 PM
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It's socially awkward when a man or women tries to flirt with a man or women that's out of their league. That's universally referred to as "creepy." Why is it called creepy? Because it demonstrates that the acting individual has a poor understanding of social dynamics. I'm calling "bullshit" on this one. Is there some objective "league guide"? I know plenty of lame people who think they are hot shit. Who's making these league determinations? People (men really, let's be honest here) should just …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 06:58 PM
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Women should always keep in mind what women find attractive in men often makes little difference vice versa. A woman's social status means next to nothing to me. If she's unpopular that may be a red flag that she's a bitch or something, but it will be the bitchiness that's the problem, not the lack of popularity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 06:45 PM
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And men become fathers in their sixties all the time. It's not at all an anomally. I provided multiple links to fertility websites and peer reviewed studies all showing that the risk of birth defects to older fathers is elevated but still very small overall. Don't believe it? Go argue with the experts. Does a woman ONLY have value for her looks and fertility? No, but it is part of her value, just as it is for men. No wall? Yeah sure whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 06:25 PM
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I'm sure there's more than one reason why. I think you are right about this. Something as simple as cellphones probably has a large, but unmeasurable effect
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 12:16 AM
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Yeah that's what I meant. I've never slept with a woman I couldn't beat the crap out of. I never have or would, I'm just sayin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 10:53 PM
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It also proves the point we live in a patriarchal paradigm that you can insist only women lose marketability with age And there's the crux of the matter. It must be equal or you will somehow make it equal. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The great majority of older fathers will have healthy children, as much as that thought seems to enrage you. And women still become COMPLETELY INFERTILE after a certain age. Your highschool biology lecture can't change that. Women are not the only ones that los…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 10:09 PM
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I don't know what the percentages are, but I'd wager more 20 something men are going without sex, than 20 something women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:29 AM
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Don't apologize, it's a good OP. I agree, I think men and women often talk past each other when the subject is sex. It's reasonable that men and women would have different sexual instincts and outlooks since they have such different reproductive roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:24 AM
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Maybe this? " As you can see from the gray line, women rate an incredible 80% of guys as worse-looking than medium" http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:20 AM
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"And I think that concept is often lost on young women who don't have to worry about these problems. Go take a look at /r/letsgetlaid or /r/twoxchromosomes - young women have it significantly "easier" (scare quotes again quite intended because it's VERY complicated out there) than men on the sexual market." This is true, but they have a host of problems we men don't always appreciate. I don't worry about my partner count, the higher the better. I don't have to be worried about my safety around s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 05:05 AM
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Men sperm quality degrades faster than ovum quality. That's idiotic. Compare a 65 year old man's sperm quality, with a 65 year old woman's ovum quality. "the decrease in fertility that we see in men is much more subtle and gradual than the change we see in women’s fertility as they age." http://www.conceiveeasy.com/get-pregnant/does-sperm-count-decrease-as-you-age/ "There is also a SLIGHTLY increased risk of older men fathering children with genetic disorders." emphasis mine http://www.newscient…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:32 AM
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People don't date those they are not physically attracted to. I don't see that as shallow. However I suspect it was the girl's physical appearance that made your friend disregard her feelings. ie "She's a freak, who cares how she feels?" That IMO is shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 03:17 AM
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Your friend was shallow, but it was in not thinking of the girl's feelings before speaking, not in his unwillingness to date her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:57 AM
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Women sexually objectifying men and joking about their body parts, I should be offended!!!!!!!!!!!!! But I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:50 PM
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any guy with the right game could get any girl and a girl is NEVER out of your league. If you want to hit the moon, aim for the stars. Is his attitude objective reality? Probably not, but since confidence is so crucial, it's a good attitude to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:40 PM
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"Old sperm"? LOL "Sperm are produced in the man’s testes, mature in the epididymis, and finally travel through the vas deferens and out through the urethra during an ejaculation. This process takes about 75 days." http://www.justmommies.com/getting-pregnant/male-fertility/sperm-411-7-little-known-things-that-can-affect-sperm#ixzz2xfvrnq6k This is a funny feminist delusion. You could say it isn't equal that women have a shorter time period to have children than men. And of course, EVERYTHING must…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 10:17 PM
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after the age of 30, a woman's fertility will decline, but after around 35 a man's fertility starts to drop as well. While a woman is physically unable to reproduce after a certain point in her life, a man will always be able to reproduce, but the odds for a healthy child coming from an older man are significantly lower than that of a younger man. "the decrease in fertility that we see in men is much more subtle and gradual than the change we see in women’s fertility as they age." http://www.con…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 04:01 AM
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You're breaking Betty Friedan's heart. (you've heard of her, right?)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:32 AM
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A feminist that's never heard of NOW is like a gun nut that's never heard of the NRA
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:26 AM
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A feminist that's never heard of NOW? I'm assuming you are not American?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:16 AM
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Comparing a reduction in quality of sperm in men to post menopause complete infertility in women is ridiculous. It's well understood in TRP that women are also interested in a man's provisioning capability which tends to increase with age.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 03:09 AM
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So for them to seek optimum partners when they aren't one themselves doesn't make much sense It makes perfect sense from their POV. Don't sub optimum women still lust after hunky guys? Could it be that ED is partially the result of older less sexually attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:59 AM
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Mid 40s here. I'm not looking for the youngest, but attractiveness is important, and young women tend to be more attractive than older women. I don't have anything against women my age per se, but most of them are approaching obesity. If they would take better care of themselves (I go to the gym several times a week) I would be more open to a relationship with them. Middle to late 20s is the "sweet spot". They are still young enough be very attractive, yet old enough to be relatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/14 02:11 AM
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WTF are you talking about "victimize", "duped"? Do women like to have sex? Nothing is promised, we have sex because WE want to have sex. No drugged drinks, no jumping on drunken passed out women. None of that crap you have churning in your imagination. Two fully consenting adults making decisions for themselves. It's odd that you are so offended by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 08:28 PM
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All the subjects are from one geographical area. It might be localized. Worth doing more studies though.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 01:55 AM
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The problems with your suggestions is that your concern is not with the effectiveness of the advice, only that it not be sexist. You don't care if the advice works only that the men don't think bad things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 01:45 AM
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sarcasm, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 01:34 AM
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I wouldn't recommend it for either party on a first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 12:43 AM
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Your happy love life is unimportant. All that is important is that you have the correct views and thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 12:22 AM
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The OP is about a person who has success with game and why he should now abandon game. That's the subject of the thread. So your answer is; he should abandon something that seems to be working for him because he cannot objectively prove to a third person that it, in fact, does work?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 12:03 AM
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'game' can be applied in a way that can compromise a person's ability to consent. Old fashioned dating can be applied in a way that can compromise a person's ability to consent. Do you have an example of what you are talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 11:15 PM
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WTF are you talking about? Do you think game is hypnosis or Jedi mind tricks? If I think of the woman I'm with as a precocious child and strut around like the cock of the walk how is that manipulation? If she likes what she sees we have sex, if she doesn't we don't. Did I commit a thoughtcrime against her? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:57 PM
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Yeahhh. Go back and reread the thread and tell me you weren't personalizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:46 PM
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Are you open minded? You can't see the difference in a man behaving in a way that is more likely to cause women to want to sleep him...and rape? Same thing, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:40 PM
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Yes, you see deep into my inner soul over the use of a common slang phrase. It always gets around to shame for BPers. You must prove that I'm a bad person, because good people get along just fine with the "just be yourself" approach. And you would rather do that than deal with your backward approach to confidence - success. (you know, the post you were commenting on)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:34 PM
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I sexed her, she sexed me. It's a figure of speech. Good try at deflection. If you are going to comment on my post, why don't you comment on my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:20 PM
4

I hope I'm not too off topic but I had a thought and didn't want to start a whole thread over it. Men and women often have trouble empathizing with each other because they often inhabit different realities. Think of sex as water... Women (especially young women) live in a monsoon. Everywhere they go they are drenched. They are understandably sick of all the rain and puddles. Men live in a desert. They have to walk miles and climb steep hills just to find a drink. Women look at men scheming and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 10:14 PM
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No, that's not how it worked. My self confidence and self-esteem came back AFTER I sexed a few women after being celibate for years. The successes were not due to my renewed self-confidence. My renewed self confidence was due to my successes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:43 PM
9

Bad analogy. Heroin is illegal and physically harmful. A better analogy is a pain sufferer who has tried every pain reliever on the market has finally found something that works for them, but you are offended by it so they should just go back to being in pain. Because your sense of indignation is more important than their pain. (and yes, incel is pain)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:19 PM
7

Perhaps men who are struggling with dating could try game and make individual determinations for themselves? I'm the first to say, if it doesn't produce results for a guy, he should abandon it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:12 PM
6

You know my personal history better than I do? I couldn't get laid to save my life pre-redpill. Post redpill I have a pretty decent sex life. That's not faith, that's concrete results.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:07 PM
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Your post is the exact opposite of my years and years of personal experience. I don't take RP on faith. I have LOTS of experience treating women "like a person". Game works better, A LOT BETTER.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 09:03 PM
6

I've seen the difference first hand in my own circumstance. It's unmistakable, like night and day. And once I understood what I was doing, the change in attitude of women toward me was almost instantaneous. By keeping a mental image of woman as precocious children in my mind it helps me assume a more dominant persona that women absolutely find more arousing than the "real me".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 08:52 PM
5

I think a better solution than accepting women I am not attracted to, is to alter my behaviour to better attract the women I am attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 08:45 PM
7

nothing redeemable about the red pill approach that can't be found elsewhere Wrong! "Be confident" yeah, great advice. "Be attractive" genius! Why didn't I think of that? I went for years and years and years being "respectful" toward the women I was interested in, with celibacy as the result. I've read countless self help books and watched videos on dating. NOTHING works even half as good as game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 08:37 PM
4

It's difficult to say. If one changed sex, the change in hormones could very much affect how you feel and what you want. Each of us is looking at the question through a haze of estrogen or testosterone that colors our vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 07:02 PM
2

Men who sleep with men are probably easier to hook up with than women who sleep with men, That's what I meant. You have a "backup plan" (no pun intended) so of course you are chill around women. Congradulations, I'm glad it works for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:22 PM
3

YEAH THEIR HALF RETARDED MONKEY BRAINS KNOW THAT THEY ARE A SERIES OF FUCK HOLES THAT DESERVE TO BE DEGRADED!!! Hadn't seen that post before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:16 PM
0

If you are attracted to a person, is it easier to get them to sleep with you if they are a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:07 PM
5

Entitled to sexual access to women means, RP men express disdain for women who are not sexually attractive... And women don't express disdain for men who are not sexually attractive? https://twitter.com/heightismwatch
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:04 PM
3

The fact that you can seek sex with other men is a significant difference between your situation and that of strictly hetero men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:54 PM
2

If the assumptions that it is based on are false, why does it work?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:34 PM
0

The experiences of a lesbian are not going to be the same as those of a hetero man. It is difficult for men to get laid without work or investment, you are right. It's actually much easier though if you leave off the drama and emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:21 PM
8

Yes, you are right. Many employ RP strategies naturally without thought. I've seen a lot of that. But to many men it doesn't come naturally. I guess they are just out of luck, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:16 PM
6

So men don't actually like having sex with various attractive women just for the fun of having sex with various attractive women? It's just rationalization because they can't find a girlfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:10 PM
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You can not appreciate how much more difficult it is for men to get laid. Of course getting laid is easy for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:04 PM
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A large part of RP is guys that have had trouble dating. This is news?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 05:00 PM
2

"getting laid is easier than finding a strong relationship in general" You are female, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 03:49 PM
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Perhaps Redpillers have stronger arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:10 PM
7

Tpers spin plates for two reasons. banging mulitple women can be more enjoyable than banging just one. Spinning plates takes away the woman's power to deny the man sex. No need to pander to her to get some nookie, just call the next one. "...allowing the girl enough time to develop some possible (woeful) interest in the man TRP has tricked her into believing is there." She wants a natural Alpha! If a guy has to learn it, it doesn't count, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:56 PM
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Suburban USA. I've always gotten along well with women in platonic situations but I've always struggled with dating. I've been told countless times by women "you're a great guy, I just don't see you that way". I spent years "just being myself" and treating women I was interested in as equals and the result was years of celibacy and depression. When I first found RP advice I didn't think it would work. But I was desperate so I tried it out and was shocked to find it does work. I'm now in charge o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 03:55 AM
3

Everybody knows women are completely turned off by men with lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 02:48 AM
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It might help women to visualize it thus; Pretend there is a 20 year old man who is 6' tall. He has a rare shrinking disease that causes him to shrink 1" every year. When he is 30 he will be 5' 2" tall. If he wishes to marry, do you think waiting will affect his chances of finding the girl of his dreams?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 02:28 AM
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Yes, of course "much more" is misleading, but "more" is accurate. sheesh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:51 AM
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Oh, for pity sake! You are actually arguing based on the difference between "more" and "much more"? Is there an objective measurement possible between the two terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:39 AM
2

I never said male fertility was unaffected, but that female fertiltiy was MORE affected. Are you arguing that male and female fertility are about equal when it comes to declining with age?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:29 AM
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"Short men don't deserve to live" is an "appearance preference"!? What you are saying is the objectification of men by women isn't a problem but the opposite is...for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:04 AM
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Look again, it's a collection of individual tweets from different users. A very very long collection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:55 AM
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Why, obviously women are much less shallow than men and appreciate men for their inner qualities... https://twitter.com/heightismwatch
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:52 AM
1

It makes perfect sense for men to be instinctively more concerned with youth in women than vice versa since age is much more closely tied with fertility in women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:41 AM
2

Very true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:37 AM
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The mistake women make is they assume what they find attractive in men is what men should find attractive in women. And if men have other ideas, then those men are bad and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:33 AM
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An element of schadenfreude, to be sure. But the fantasy is the one held by women that they will be as attractive to men when they are 35 as they are when they are 25. It's relevant to TRP because this is the time women's interests tend to shift and become more interested in the "beta bux" part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:08 AM
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It's a well established idea in TRP that what women SAY they want in a sexual relationship bares little resemblance to what they actually respond to in real life. Therefore their relationship advice to men is worthless and counterproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:48 PM
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Yeah, that sums it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 06:39 PM
2

A minimum level of attractiveness is absolutely necessary at least at the beginning of the relationship. To put it bluntly; if the very sight of her doesn't get my motor running, the relationship isn't happening. However, once that threshold has been met, it's all about personality, loyalty etc. I'd rather be with a cool girl that's just cute, than a super hot girl who's a pain in the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 03:47 PM
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"If you want to be happy for the rest of your life, Never make a pretty woman your wife, So from my personal point of view, Get an ugly girl to marry you" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4TOR7856d4
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/14 01:34 PM
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Not stupid. "Childlike" would be a better term. You're right, game is what women want it to be. Not what they SAY they want it to be, but what they actually respond to. There's an old saying "voting with your feet", women are voting with another part of their anatomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 10:31 PM
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Good question. I guess the number of women who respond well to my childlike treatment of them is so much higher than the number of women who respond well to my treating of them as equals, I go with the odds.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 09:38 PM
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People who view TRP as an overall worldview (true believrs), as opposed to those just looking to be more successful with women.(FITYMI)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 09:29 PM
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Yeah, I may be looking at it in an odd way, but it works for me. "Treat women like children" is the single best piece of advice about sexual relationships that I have ever been given. It's the perfect analogy. It guides me in being dominant but not cruel. I wish I didn't need such a crutch, but I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 08:58 PM
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If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. I don't see it as immoral, because if she doesn't like my behavior she can walk away at any time. No hard feelings. I'm not subjecting women to something, I'm offering it to them. They can take it or leave it as they see fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 08:38 PM
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But women aren't demonized for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 08:27 PM
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So men should accept any female advance just so women wont get discouraged and give up? And you don't want to be treated like children?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:25 PM
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Not really. She talkes about making a sexual approach. That's not what I'm talking about. I mean walking up to a stranger and saying "hello".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:20 PM
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But men can help by making environments where such a thing is possible. What does that even mean? I've never once heard a guy complain about women approaching him. Sometimes those women will get rejected (welcome to our world), but it isn't the act of female approach that guys are rejecting. Women don't approach because they don't have to. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 07:00 PM
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putting your own desires before others' all the time. If my behaviour causes a woman to WANT to sleep with me, how am I putting my desire before hers? It is her desire as well as mine. Just because I behaved in a way more likely to ellicit such a response is in no way removing her choice. I'm not using hypnotism or mind control. If she doesn't desire sex with me, then sex doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:51 PM
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I guess being the post police is easier than dealing with the substance of my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:45 PM
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I didn't used to. Things are much better now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:35 PM
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It's also illegal in most places. Which can result in a lot of undesirable outcomes. Much better to behave in a way that is more likely to cause non-prostitute women to want to have sex with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:19 PM
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I'm sure it works disproportionately well on the messed up ones though. Wrong. I have a much easier time gaming stable well-educated women than I do basket cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:11 PM
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What if the man had real feeling for the woman and the friendship is over because it's painful to constantly be around an unrequited love?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 06:01 PM
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You really don't understand how this works. Does game work on every woman? Of course not, but it doesn't just work on dim-witted or "damaged" women. I was at a party with a platonic female friend. She is VERY intelligent and level headed. At the party we met a guy I know. This guy (who is not particularly handsome) has a lot of luck with women. I know this guy and he is a straight up mysogonist, no two ways about it. I'm often offended to hear him speak. Yet after talking with him for just a few…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:58 PM
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This is what BP is always reduced to. Shame. It's all they've got. I'm no longer surprised by the heartless attitude BPers have toward incel men. You have to paint them as bad people to justify your contempt. I have great platonic relationships with women, but have always struggled with creating romantic and sexual relationships. I guess I should have just given up and I should "know my place".
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:38 PM
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You assign that belief to him to justify your hatred of him - and you offer him no help at all. No advice. No hope for him to actually obtain a loving relationship. I wish I could upvote this a hundred times.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:32 PM
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Blue pill seems to specialise in convincing guys to give up on stuff they once wanted...such as an active sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:25 PM
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The stereotype is an asshole that acts like a nice guy to get laid. The problem with this stereotype is that it doesn't work. An asshole will NOT get laid if he acts like a niceguy. The opposite is true, a nice guy stands a much greater chance of getting laid if he acts like an asshole. A poster in another thread made a great point. "Likable" is not the same thing as "lustable"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 05:01 PM
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have you ever thought maybe women don't want to be treated like a child either? I used to think that. Until personal experience showed me otherwise. I treat women like equals = I get ignored by them. I treat women like children = I get absolutely pursued by them. I would rather be pursued by women than ignored by them. THAT is why I treat them that way. If women responded to flowers and lovesongs, I would take up flower arranging and the lute.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:49 PM
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Everything in our society is geared toward making women comfortable. To hear something that refuses to take women's feelings into account is shocking for many people because it is so rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:33 PM
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For 10 years I tried every alternative imaginalbe (save homosexuality). RP works where NOTHING else did.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:23 PM
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Because they don't give a damn about incel men. They would much rather these guys live lives of depression and desperation, rather than hear anything that offends bluepill sensitivities. A man's abject misery means less to them than a woman's delicate sensibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/14 04:20 PM
5

The audience must be kept in mind. You may find "social displays of dominance" more paletable, but most guys are going to have little idea what that actually means in the real world. It must be kept in mind RP exists to give men (often desperate men) the real world advice they need to produce results in their lives. I don't say this to be cruel, (because I think you are a good poster, and you mean well) but your feelings are not really a consideration
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 08:29 PM
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In another thread we talked about how the courtship dance has a lot of subtle dominance and submission displays. Generally speaking, to successfully complete the dance the man must show some level of dominance. But throughout their lives men are discouraged from showing such "sexism" around women. And in non-sexual areas such displays are usually inappropriate. It's difficult to just flip a switch in your brain and become dominant. Many men need a mental crib sheet. "Be dominant" is too vauge ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 08:07 PM
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There's a big difference (at least for men) in being in love with a girl, and simply wanting to bang her. For obvious biological reasons women have higher standards when it comes to sex partners than men do. I have many female friends and would like to bang most of them. But I would like to bang just about any reasonably attractive young woman that crosses my path, so my sexual attraction to my female friends is just sort of "par for the course". However I have no romantic feeling for my female …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 01:20 PM
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I know people aren't always on board with evo-psych. And I agree it can be overused. But when it comes to sex, mating and reproduction, it would be crazy to think we aren't heavily influenced by our evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/14 12:03 AM
2

Makes sense, since many RP behaviors are displays of dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 11:58 PM
0

There's the Princess Diana move, too, that I know I pull and have definitely seen other women using - that head-down, eyes up look. Face the floor but look up at someone with your eyes, basically. An instinctive display of submission. Like a scolded child
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 11:48 PM
6

I was told there would be no math on this test. Excercise and don't overeat and you should be ok
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 08:46 PM
2

I've already had plenty. I went years thinking my lack of success with women was because I was not worthy of their affection.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 07:02 PM
0

I hope they do. That would be very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 06:09 PM
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Not a jab at your intelligence at all. Men and women have different experiences with dating. Each one has cognitive blind spots as to the lives of the other. As a woman do you really think you understand what it is like to be a man? I illustrated why a man would choose the RP. Not out of mysogyny or sexism, but merely to gain what nearly all men crave, and what many many men struggle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 06:02 PM
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ie. "If you do it our way and it doesn't work, that just shows you are a bad person" Shame and conformity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:52 PM
2

My guess is that even BP men will understand my post better than most female readers. Women are unsympathetic to the hurdles men face in dating. They are particularly unsympathetic to the hurdles faced by men who struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:46 PM
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"It sounds to me that you now have a fear of commitment and intimacy, and are using promiscuity as a bandaid." and "You apply RP strategy to your life, and confuse getting a different reaction as success, when in reality you have just moved from extreme to another." Not trying to spin it into a negative?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:27 PM
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"...to help better understand their position" And after reading my post you can't better understand why a man would choose RP? It doesn't matter since you're gone anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:19 PM
2

BP has the one and only way men are permitted to relate to women and if you deviate from it you are a bad person.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:08 PM
1

What is PP for, if not to explore the difference between the two POVs?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 05:04 PM
2

Mainly being a smartass. Making fun of things she said, and not backing down or caring if she got pissed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 04:53 PM
5

Age has a lot to do with it. I think there are very very few INVOLUNTARILY celibate females in their late teens or twenties. In that age group the incel demographic skews heavily male. As women age, many find it harder to find acceptable sex partners and it starts to become more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 03:24 PM
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I could turn one of a number of my flings into LTR's if I wished to. Maybe some day I will. Now, it's my decision, before I had no agency at all. Am I happy? Considering I was depressed almost to the point of suicide before,... yeah I'm really happy. I had given up on having any type of relationship at all, and was filled with self-loathing. Now I feel good about myself and my depression has lifted. I never really understood the phrase "new lease on life" until I discovered RP. Your attempt to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 03:12 PM
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Oh, for pity sake! We're not talking about telling a woman what she has to wear and what time she has to go to bed. It's a way of relating to her while flirting. It's body language and tone of voice. It's being a smartass and not taking her seriously or constantly rushing to validate her. And let's not forget the woman always retains the ultimate agency of leaving anytime she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/14 02:49 PM
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Promiscuity beats involuntary celibacy by such a huge margin that moving from the one extreme to the other certainly is success.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 12:51 AM
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Before I would try to show the girl "the real me" and what a good dependable boyfriend I would be. Showed interest in things she liked. Complimented her and tried to make her feel good. etc... Now I act like a cocky sombitch who couldn't care less what she thinks. I treat women at work or that I deal with professionally as equals. I treat women I want to sleep with like precocious children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:48 PM
2

Long hair is usually more attractive but it's not a dealbreaker
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 09:09 PM
19

I've been through it. For well over a decade I tried it the BP way and it was a disaster. Since discovering the RP things are better, a lot better. I'm now in charge of my sexual and romantic life in a way I would not have thought possible only a year ago. I'm not going back to a life of loneliness, celibacy and depression because some people on the internet are offended.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:46 PM
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"...be a genuine person and treat people like people." And if you are doing that and it still doesn't work, what then? What the BP says to guys that are struggling with dating is that if banging your head against a wall isn't working...bang harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 08:05 PM
5

And if feminist were able to "smash the patriarchy" do you think women would stop complaining?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 03:03 PM
10

"Could you outline what BP advice is please?" I don't need to. Go the the "relationship" section of any bookstore. Bluepill dating advice is an industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 02:45 PM
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So if an individual has found that RP works better for him than BP, why should he not continue to use what works? Common sense, yes? My problem with BP dating advice is that is basically says "If banging your head against a wall hasn't worked for you...try banging harder" RP says "If banging your head against a wall hasn't worked for you, try something different."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 02:38 PM
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I bet you use pretty much the same discription for every group you don't like. Simple knee jerk strawman. Many RPers are RP precicely because they are experienced. BP is the mainstream. RPers know firsthand where following BP advice gets them, most have been doing it for years before becoming RP. Most RPers have experienced both pills and are in a better postion to compare. It is the BPers who are ignorant and closedminded. RPers are RP not because someone on the internet talked them into it, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 02:03 PM
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Red pill doesn't exist in a vacum, it is a reaction. It is a way to navigate modern realities. If traditional views of marriage were still the norm, Red pill would not exist in its current form. I think a big misconception is that most redpillers choose the RP because the philosophy appeals to them. I don't think that's true. I think, more often than not, RP is chosen because the individual can no longer deny that RP more accurately describes reality. The common saying "The red pill is bitter" i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 02:01 AM
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"Fat shaming" is certainly not a double standard RP indulges in. It does shame fat girls, but it constantly tells men to go to the gym and get in shape. That girls are attracted to fit guys just as guys are attracted to fit girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 01:11 AM
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What the blue pillers don't seem to understand is that red pillers have already tried the blue pill approach to sex and dating. If it worked, they wouldn't be red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 12:30 AM
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