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Fundamentals sidbunch6/r/seduction16/08/22 08:00 AM
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Field Reportsidbunch6/r/seduction21/06/22 08:35 AM
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Well in my experience if she likes me it's a done deal lol exactly 'game' is so overrated lol If she thinks you're hot, it's so hard to mess up And if she doesn't think you are hot, 'game won't help at all
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/22 01:27 PM
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This is similar to my thoughts! (it's also interesting you chose the number '10' - I'll get to that) I remember being more or less a virgin at like 19, having only really slept with my girlfriend at the time and I felt like a loser. I was depressed at my 'n count' and got jealous when i'd hear of people claiming ridiculous lay counts (who in hindsight were just lying to get customers for their PUA bootcamps lol) I decided I was gonna 'learn game' and hit on a tonne of girls and get laid lots to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:52 AM
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I felt this way until I actually started sleeping around It honestly only took banging a handful of girls before I realised it's all so overrated. Not to say getting laid and stuff isn't kinda fun, but after you've banged a few decent looking girls, you've kinda banged them all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:46 AM
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There was a youtube vid years ago where some woman had professional makeup artists make her look like a man with prosthetics and facial hair and padding and stuff. (I can't remember what they done for the voice, if anything) But the theme was that she couldn't believe that she couldn't even really get the girls to even talk back, basically. I think she went into it thinking she's be getting loads of girls numbers easily and stuff and that 'women are friendly' etc It's basically the same thing yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:39 PM
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I can't imagine work NOT being boring (or something i'd choose to do for free!) unless I was working as like a pornstar or a footballer or something lol. People who live for thei HR position or the programming job or whatever just strike me as people who don't know how to actually have fun
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 08:26 AM
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exactly. I find it so strange when people think of working more as a way to not be bored haha. Work IS the boring part! People who win the lottery tend to quit their jobs so that they can actually enjoy life and have free time to do actual fun stuff lol (not more work!)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:53 AM
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never listen too a guys E-stats lol. Every guy online seems to claim like a 300 slay count and banging 50+ girls per year haha
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/22 08:33 AM
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approaching girls in bars or in parks etc is basically just 'tinder', but in person If she tihnks you are hot, it could lead somewhere If you're not her type, it'll be a rejection no matter how much 'game' you think you have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 12:31 PM
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Thats why as long as you have a good baseline of social skills, it doesnt matter what ur "game" is, she will already like you, or she wont 100%!! couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:21 PM
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Absolutely true I know whether i have a chance at banging a girl when i cold approach her within about 5 seconds I also know whether the 'PUA' will end up in bed with the girl or get rejected within about 5 seconds of the infield. I'm always right You can't negotiate sexual attraction Tha'ts why 'game' is just something most people have, and it's there to help you lead ATTRACTED girls to sex. Nobody can 'game' a girl into finding him attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 06:20 PM
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if you're not her type, there's nothing you can say verbally to make her sexually attracted. You can't negotiate sexual attraction. Pro PUA's get rejected a hell of a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:34 AM
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true Nobody thinks that social skills/'game' doesn't matter at all But it's that it's basically irrelevant unless you are completely autistic for example (very bad social skills to the point your 'lack of game' would result in her finding someone else instead) If she thinks you are hot, you just need to be normal. That's as much 'game' as you need. Chat, flirt, escalate If she doesn't think you are hot, you could have studied mysterymethod and RSD and have vin dicarlo and every other PUA you cna…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 09:32 AM
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exactly. physical attraction is a pre-requisite if we are talking about sleeping with strangers from a cold approach. Exactly the same for women and men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:05 PM
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exactly. There's no lines or techniques or psychological tricks or anything under the umbrella of 'game' that will help take a girl who is NOT attracted to you, into wanting to rip your clothes off. Not to mention that basically everything in 'game' books is stuff that any normal person already knows/does It's basically marketing. I'm confident I could get identical results to any 'world class' PUA assuming we looked identical, and had the same logistics etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 04:01 PM
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lol nope
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:32 PM
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we all basically have the same level of 'game'. Don't worry about that. People always pat themselves on the back thinking that their 'game' was what got them laid with a girl without realising she decided way earlier (basically at 'hi'). The best game in the world won't help you bang a girl if she's not into you. Concentrate on other things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 03:02 PM
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Disagree. I've read and learnt from those who have the best 'game' in the world. They ALL get rejected lots (if the girl isn't attracted to him. Infield footage demonstrates this)# Game is basically irellevant. I have as good game as anyone here tbh. e.g - if a girl thinks i'm hot im extrmely likely to bang her. That's as good as anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 02:56 PM
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Game doesn’t open closed doors, game only widens the door that’s already open. nice turn of phrase. Yep, that's exactly how it is. There's so much BS out there from 'coaches' and even people on subs like this pretending they have some secret level of 'game' akin to jedi mind control. It's just fantasy. The very best proof we have of the power of game is in the form of infields, and if you watch them closely, you will notice that they are doing exactly why me and you and everyone else is doing. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:52 AM
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recognizing any signs of rejection so even if you 'master game/seduction' girls will still reject you? You have to wonder whether game/seduction has any power at all. I think she either thinks you're hot or she doesn't. Your 'game' is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:35 AM
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you need to be her type though if you are to 'game' her. Confidence/game/charisma on a girl who doesn't think you are hot = rejection. So I agree he needs to get in shape and get good looking as possible. Not 'practice' though. There's nothing to practice. Approach and flirt. Shoot your shot. She thinks you're hot? You'll likely get her. She doesn't think you're hot? You're just delaying the rejection. Eject and try your luck on the next cute girl you see
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 10:00 AM
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game is basically a meme, tbh (and I say that as someone who has read and watched more PUA products that you'd believe lol. Made thousands of cold approaches implementing all kinds of lines and theory etc) What I learnt is that, if you are her type, the level of 'game' you need is low enough that no normal person should need to even 'learn' it. (most people just know how to flirt and have the balls to escalate on a girl giving him signals). conversely, if you are NOT her type (she doesn't tihnk …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:40 AM
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true Getting laid is a numbers game. It's not about 'skill'. I'd have the same results as an 'expert' dating coach if we looked identical Work on your looks and approach a tonne of girls - you'll get laid some
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 09:35 AM
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so reading the replies, quite a few guys claim to be able to basically bang whoever they want whenever, although they all claim to be good looking. As expected?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 12:14 PM
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M 29 hard but likely. I can get laid most nights i go looking for it, but it could mean having to hit on maybe 40 girls in a night I'ts just about numbers + how good looking you are. This isn't a game of skill Good looking guys would only need to approach maybe 2-3 girlss
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 05:24 PM
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work out, get fashion tips, fresh haircut
/r/seduction04/11/22 09:19 PM
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First of all, girls will not laugh and turn away from you if you approach confidently. it depends. If you are not her type, she will often still turn away/barely talk, even if you are 'confident'. Happens all the time. Even in infields from pros
/r/seduction04/11/22 08:25 PM
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how did it go? did you test the game theory? did it work or not?
/r/seduction03/11/22 10:40 PM
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you can't force attraction though. 'Game' doesn't work on the girls who just aren't sexually attracted to you (and they know within about 2 seconds lol) that's why all the pros (rsd, mystery, bradicus etc etc) still get rejected so much. It's a numbers game in all honesty You might be able to use DHV's and pushpulls and stuff to the point she thinks you are 'fun' or interesting etc, but it's just not gonna lead to sex if you are an old ugly fat dude and she's just turned 18 and is smoking hot lo…
/r/seduction03/11/22 10:37 PM
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I think the real reason is that it never actually 'worked' as advertised. I don't think the fact that old school PUA game is a bit 'gimmiky' and cheesy would have bothered men as long as it meant that they were banging teen models every night lol. They'd all still be doing it. It would just gain in popularity more and more instead of dying out. But in reality, what happens is they approach and 'neg' and run 'strawberry fields' etc, and she just doesn't give a shit, OR she actually likes teh mate…
/r/seduction03/11/22 10:25 AM
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good stuff, man! Where abouts in the UK are you?
/r/seduction31/10/22 09:27 PM
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yeah, just move on. 'Game' isn't some black magic where you can make a girl attracted to you. If you're not her type, it's just not gonna happen. not with all the push-pulls in the world lol Most of the time if she's not letting you escalate it's because she's just not into. So move on to the next girl until you find one who is. That's the game (the same game even 'coaches' are playing although they'd never admit that lol) There's probably a small percentage of girls who are more just shy or who…
/r/seduction30/10/22 05:51 PM
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start with "The Mystery Method" Don't go after youtube sellers who try to convince everyone that it is a science to talk to a girl and you need a special method to talk to them Which one is it? lol
/r/seduction30/10/22 01:05 PM
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is this cold approach? If it feels like you're pulling teeth, it's best to just move on too a new girl who might actually be into you. When a girl is into you, it's always fairly effortless because she is pulling her weight in the convo. It's not supposed to be a one-way thing. It can't be. Some PAU's advocate 'plowing' where you are making cold reads and statemetns adn routines and trying to 'stick in' the interaction like an Alabama tick, but it's not worth it. YOu are only delaying the reject…
/r/seduction28/10/22 03:51 PM
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it isn't that you are doing something 'wrong' when you get rejected. You're just not her type
/r/seduction27/10/22 09:33 PM
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if you're not her type, that will be met with 'i'm not interesting or funny. Bye' and then a backturn lol. I mean, she'll just not try to qualify herself to you and will see it as a pickup attempt (which again, if you're not her type, she wants no part of)
/r/seduction26/10/22 08:24 AM
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For what it's worth I actually DON'T use direct game (and have made like thousands of approaches) and pretty much agree with what you say here All i'd say in favour of direct game is that you kind of waste less time and know where you stand. I'd argue that's the 'purpose' of it (although like I say, i'm indirect). But there's also lots of infields of guys being indirect, and they're spending ages trying to 'hook' the girl (because she's not talking back because he isn't her type) and he's making…
/r/seduction20/10/22 12:11 PM
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agree. That's why I said 'unless you are saying legit bat shit crazy stuff' lol. But opening direct and telling her she's hot isn't that weird. There's endless infields of it working. Truly, most things 'work' if you are her type, and not a single thing on earth (technique/line etc) will work if you're not
/r/seduction20/10/22 11:13 AM
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it wasn't the line. If she was into him, that line would have worked just fine. It's never the line (unless you are are saying legit bat shit crazy stuff lol). Lots of PUA actually recommend 'mode1' which is even MORE direct than 'you're gorgeous'. Way more direct haha.
/r/seduction20/10/22 07:22 AM
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all that effort for nothing though - I don't think all of his exual routines and compliance routines etc worked at all. I just think She was never into him and it was never gonna happen with that girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 02:10 PM
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Nope. Even 'PUA's' are only ever banging the 'yes girls'. Just like it sounds like you are doing. No techniques can make a girl attracted to you. If you are her type, just being normal and escalating is enough. You don't need to read about 'game' (that's why handsome dudes slay!) And if you are not her type, you could know everything there is toi know about game, but you will only be delaying the rejection (such as in that infield clip linked in the thread. All of his sexualising routines were f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/22 11:12 AM
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if she was high interest, she can be again imo. There's attraction there It's the girls who are never remotely interested who are the ones you need to move on from. When You're just not their type, you are only wasting your time
/r/seduction17/10/22 02:40 PM
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you again!!? I think you need therapy or something. You are clearly sitting there, triggered, blood boiling going through old posts lmao! Let it go haha. You have nothing interesting to say. You don't understand about any of this stuff. Go away lol
/r/seduction17/10/22 01:18 PM
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are you fucking senile? You mentioned an author who i've already read (but you edited your post like a girl after so now it makes no sense). YOu're too stupid to talk too and you know nothing about any of this stuff lmao
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:09 PM
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you are VERY triggered!!! Stalking all posts!! lmao. This is too funny!! YOu don't know about any of this stuff. Take the 'L'. You're losing frame, bro!!
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:07 PM
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Read it. Very cheesy. Ineffective. And no infields. He's just larping. He knows if he had to do infields he'd show himself getting rejected just as much as the next guy
/r/seduction17/10/22 12:02 PM
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you're clueless lmao
/r/seduction17/10/22 11:22 AM
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Women who are attracted to you will absolutely... There's this weird fixation with following a formula and 'doing kino' and 'push pull' and other weird things They do these things to make her attracted (or at least try too) as per the PUA books. Whether it actually works or not is certainly up for debate though
/r/seduction17/10/22 09:46 AM
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well RsdMax couldn’t do it so how the hell could I it's the same for anyone with infields, numb-nuts! they all get rejected when they open a girl who isn't attracted. you don't understand this stuff.. Be quiet
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:50 AM
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you don't have a clue what you're talking about and stop stalking old posts like a weirdo lol. Shhh
/r/seduction17/10/22 08:36 AM
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you don't know about this stuff lol. Be gone!!
/r/seduction17/10/22 07:11 AM
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nah, it's true. I've read it all. Probably more than you lol. I've done mysterymethod (opinon opener, neg, dhv stoiry, qualify etc) and lots of other methods too. It works, but only if you are her type and she's physically into you. On a girl who isn't into you, you're just delaying the rejection. She doesn't care about your dhv stories. Your negs annoy her. She doesn't care to qualify to you because you' re not her type haha. CHeck out some infields and youi'll see what i mean. They pull the 'y…
/r/seduction16/10/22 04:33 PM
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he was a fraud. No infields. No evidence of him banging a tonne of hot girls from cold appraoch. He's just a ghost writer making up shit basically. He described his system in pretty much a script form! SO it's super easy to do. If it worked, everyone here should be using it and sleeping with models lol
/r/seduction16/10/22 02:35 PM
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This is more or less the secret of ALL of this 'seduction' stuff It's about finding the girls who are attracted to you. That's why we preach cold approach and numbers game. Because it's not about 'making' girls attracted to you. Nobody can do that. That's the missunderstanding some have about 'game' The reason all of these professional coaches STILL get rejected a lot is because they can't force attraction in a girl any more than you or I can. If they're not into him/interested in him/attracted,…
/r/seduction16/10/22 08:06 AM
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the conversation will take care of itself if she is attracted to you/you are her type The most interesting questions won't lead to getting laid if you're not her type
/r/seduction14/10/22 09:59 AM
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none of them have ever impressed me. They can all bang a girl if she happens to think he's attractive (which is obvious the second he opens her) and all of them still get rejected a lot and are powerless if they happen to not be her type. (again, obvious at the open from the infield) It's basically a numbers game. There's really VERY little to 'learn'
/r/seduction14/10/22 08:05 AM
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london day game is old now, too tbh
/r/seduction13/10/22 11:27 AM
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opener - who lies more, men or women? transition - 'nice nails...are they real? No?? Shame. Never mind. They're still nice' (neg to make her very attracted) DHV story (more attraction material) - mention you are a leader of men and women like you (at this point, she's is massively attracted) Now qualify her - 'what do you have going for you other than your looks?' When she replies, you can now show your intent, escalate, and have sex
/r/seduction13/10/22 09:49 AM
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I had an almost identical situation at the beginning of the year. Almost exactly as you describe. I somehow managed to pull a complete babe and we started seeing each other, hooking up and going out etc in a clearly exclusive way. She was non stop getting hit on etc, and she would talk back in a friendly way, but it was enough to encourage them, and even text back when guys on insta and stuff were DMing her and blatantly trying to bang her etc. I don't really have any advice though lol. I ended …
/r/seduction09/10/22 09:06 PM
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what country are you in? The bars where I live are full of teenagers lol https://imgur.com/a/a4tORKH#cxfLXy0
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:36 AM
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Yeah, rejections sting. Some more than others. It is what it is. They say you need thick skin for cold approach pickup because you will get rejected a huge percentage of the time, even if you know everything there is to know about 'game' I personally approach in bars and pubs. A lot! I get laid and have a decent lay count, but I won't lie. I get rejected a shit tonne. (i'm not good looking either). Experimented for years with all different styles of 'game', and in my experience, it's just irrele…
/r/seduction08/10/22 08:20 AM
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how many girls are you hitting on? You likely just need to massively increase the number of girls you approach Most guys can get good looking enough to the point that there are SOME cute girls out there who will bang you. You just need to find them Alhough the answer to your question is basically 'no'. If you watch infields, you'll see not only do even the best of the best get rejected a shit load (their game doesn't work because she's not physically attracted) you'll also note that the girls wh…
/r/seduction08/10/22 07:59 AM
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aren't you the Vegas pool party guy who writes FR's? I thought your lays were always basically a girl opening you at a pool party commenting on you 6 pack. That's a huge ioi haha.
/r/seduction08/10/22 07:37 AM
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I posted my really informative post about why looks don’t matter sound like it would have been a bit of a silly post lol. Looks = attraction. Women aren't blind i'm afraid. Make a profile of a model on tinder and see if 'looks don't matter' or not haha (ps - it's the same in real life. Having some good looking friends would open your eyes) If she isn't attracted to you, your 'game' isn't gonna help. Doesnt matter how confident your are or how much pushpulls and stuff you use. She doesn't care at…
/r/seduction07/10/22 07:14 AM
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i'm curious too lol. Although i'd have to say that i'd argue the same for every 'seduction' book i've ever read! haha. And i've read lots. I do'nt think there was anything in 95% of them that i didn't already know, and the stuff I didn't, i've never found useful. End of the day, you can't force attraction in a girl so i have no idea what 'tips' people think they are discovering At this point, i'd basically say 'game' is essentially flirting. (even pua principles like pushpull and negs and stuff …
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:42 AM
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there is really nothing you should need to learn. No tips. This isn't magic. Nobody here or elsewhere is making a girl want him lol It's approaching girls and seeing if they are attracted to you or not. If you get rejected by a girl, no tips from tiktok would have saved you. You just weren't her type/she wasn't attracted. This stuff isn't in our control i'm afraid. Keep shooting your shot.
/r/seduction06/10/22 07:39 AM
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this
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:03 AM
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they just wanna bang a hot dude. Most 18 year old girls don't even set their age preferences past like 21. They only care about 'status' if you're a rapper or a famous tiktoker or something lol. Not the case for anyone here! haha
/r/seduction05/10/22 08:02 AM
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lol. You're clueless haha
/r/seduction03/10/22 03:36 PM
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my friend can run 100m in sub 9 seconds!
/r/seduction02/10/22 10:24 PM
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nah, this isn't it. There's been no solid proof about testosterone raising from abstaining, but even if there was an increase, it would be negliable. LIke, lets say even 15! If you have 600ngl levels, you're now at 690. You'd need to be like 850ngl or something to be very high testosterone. Not to mention lots of guys might be starting at like 400 or something. I don't think anyone would notice this 'increase' one way or the other, tbh
/r/seduction02/10/22 09:21 PM
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i'm afraid I don't believe that lol. That would mean he can do something that the experts/coaches etc who have infields can't do. If you watch infields, they never ever are able to turn around a rejection. Especially a harsh 'go away' rejection. The the girls they bang are the girls who were very receptive
/r/seduction02/10/22 09:02 PM
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waht you will learn in time is that everything 'works' if you are her type and there's attraction on her part, and nothing will work if you're not her type Keep rolling them dice and approaching. Good job
/r/seduction25/09/22 07:12 AM
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you sure you were just drinking and not on LSD or something?
/r/seduction24/09/22 11:39 AM
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so DHV stories are kept pretty light DHV stories?! My man bringing back that 2005 MM game! nice
/r/seduction23/09/22 05:15 PM
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"How surprised would you be to find yourself really enjoying spending time with me this evening? Maybe up to the point where you can picture us laughing and having the best time? Is that something you'd get excited over?" lol
/r/seduction23/09/22 09:58 AM
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A blatant rejection isn't a shittest. I saw some guy on here ages ago who was advising people to literally ignore rejection and get more physical and lead her to sex by babystepping it using a 'compliance ladder', even if she's not attracted. Idea being that women do as they're told by men. Just another dreamer who's seen too many PUA vids or something who would have gotten someone a rape charge! If you're not her type, she simply won't give you compliance. You can't force it (well, you can, but…
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:52 AM
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Well, nobody is 'seducing' girls in the way you have it in your head in the old school traditional sense of the word or like in an old victorian novel where teh hideous old poet 'seduces' the beautiful young fair maden with his poetry. e.g - making a girl attracted to him by somehow tricking her brain or whatever. That's just the old school marketing of game. In real life, game is basically about smoothly escalating to sex with the girls who are already attracted to you. You can still call it 's…
/r/seduction23/09/22 07:20 AM
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once you have basic social skills and can 'flirt' and stuff, then you already have as much 'game' as anyone else. It's overkill to read too much etc. There's no magic lines and techniques out there You get results from approaching lots of girls and flipping stones, essentially. That's what people should be doing. Approaching and seeing who's into you and who's not. Instead of endlessly reading hoping to find a holy grail that doesn't exist that allows you to pick who you want My lay count went u…
/r/seduction22/09/22 06:33 PM
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for texting, get them to show you their phone and how they text girsl after the first message Do you see them approach in person a lot? Are these girls they hookup with more social circle or completely cold approach?
/r/seduction22/09/22 07:35 AM
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exactly. I used to have a wing who had an unbelievable hit rate, but over time I realised his success was 1/ good looks, 2/picking good environments, 3/spotting IOI's and basically approaching girls who he knew were already attracted. He knew less about 'game' than probably anybody here
/r/seduction19/09/22 02:02 PM
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Precisely
/r/seduction19/09/22 01:27 PM
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exactly.
/r/seduction19/09/22 11:18 AM
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I can tell almost instantly whether there is attraction on her part or not. And i'm basically always proven right e.g - if I approach a girl and I can tell she's attracted, it nearly always leads too a makeout or number or sex If I approach a girl and I can tell she's not into me (as I say, i feel i can tell this almost instantly) then it tends to be a short interaction as i'm essentially gaming a brick wall lol
/r/seduction19/09/22 10:56 AM
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This isn't 2004 anymore and the community has largely moved on from the idea that game can MAKE a girl want you. You can't negotiate sexual attraction Look at the 'tools' we have in game (known as attraction material). Feel free to try to make the girls who reject you, want you by using pushpulls and negs and cold reads etc. You'll find that it won't help lol. There's not a single PUA who can persuade a girl to be attracted to them. I could show you infields from any coach you've heard of where …
/r/seduction19/09/22 09:06 AM
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I guess that applies to everyone? Why would you flirt with a girl you are attracted too, and compliment and 'game' and stuff if you know the feeling isn't mutual?
/r/seduction19/09/22 08:44 AM
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don't take his answer at face value. Go to the adhd sub and you'll find hundreds of people saying the exact opposite to what he says (people who massively improved socially from adhd meds)
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:42 PM
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i think you've got some bad advice in this thread, tbh. People here seem stuck in 1970 where people believe that depression and other mental health issues don't exist lol You sound like you have social anxiety at least. You could also have social anxiety as a result of adhd (many symptoms overlap). You could have something else (autism etc) - or 'potentially' you're behaviour is more a result of nurture and not nature. Medication COULD certainly be the answer. Although not necessarily. None of u…
/r/seduction15/09/22 12:40 PM
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Nobody has said looks don't matter. Lots of people say exactly that on this sub, tbh! (along with how 'women aren't visual' etc lol. That one always gets a laugh from women when they hear that one) Truth is, looks is super super important. The best game in the world is unlikely to help if you open a girl who isn't attracted to you on a physical level. Luckily not all girls have identical tastes, and most men are able to get attractive enough to the point that there's likely at least a few decent…
/r/seduction13/09/22 04:48 PM
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you don't need a bootcamp or a coach lol. You just approach girls. Say hi. See who's into you (it's kind of obvious which ones are). If she is, you flirt and touch and then take her back to your room. Easy stuff. It's a numbers game
/r/seduction11/09/22 06:37 PM
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Pretty much the go to for knowing where you stand in terms of attraction exactly!!
/r/seduction04/09/22 08:03 AM
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and i'd bet a short, balding, middle aged man would be 0 for 100 if he's hitting on gorgeous teenagers lol (discounting sugar daddy game which is just prostitution as opposed too attraction)
/r/seduction03/09/22 05:47 PM
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For some context, this person is short, balding, middle aged, and an ethnicity that is stereotyped to be conventionally unappealing. You say that as if the speech ended with him having a threesome with 2 crazy hot 18 year olds lol It's just some goon Politician parroting stuff gullible people want to hear Put him in a bar full of teenage cheerleaders and see how he gets on. I can guess based on your description
/r/seduction03/09/22 05:20 PM
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Why is simply saying "Hello, how are you?" such a bad thing ? It's not a bad thing. I've seen that opener in many PUA/game books
/r/seduction03/09/22 12:22 PM
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She's hot. Every guy there wants to bang her. Are you the most attractive guy there? Is she single? It's work so you don't wanna be too direct. Be friendly and fun. IF she is attracted to you (which just isn't in your control) it'll usually be fairly obvious. If you become friendly definitely add her on facebook/insta or whatever. IF you think she's into you, start flirting (online and in person). Then you hook up. (assuming you were right about her attraction) that's exactly what i done with a …
/r/seduction31/08/22 07:47 PM
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do not read freaking myserymethod lmao
/r/seduction28/08/22 09:30 PM
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Of course. There's a few extremes on teh sub. blackpillers who think you need to be Leo Dicaprio handsome in order to not die a virgin, and completely deluded bluepill PUA's who think you can be 60 and 3ft tall and bang any victoria secret model you want if only you know their secret pushpull lines lol. It's never so black and white Yes, good looks just means you have attraction and just need to not fuck up. (have game). Average looks mean you need to approach a lot of girls until you find the o…
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:55 PM
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true. Although you don't need to be amazing male model handsome, tbh. Girls have varying tastes. Most guys can get good looking enough to be attractive to at least some girls. Get ripped, on point style, clear skin etc. You'll still get rejected a hell of a lot if you are going for stunners, even if your game is amazing, but you'll still get laid sometimes.
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:50 PM
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because game still matters a bit. Even if you are good looking, she might decide to wait for the next handsome guy if you are unable to look at her in the eye and can't form a sentence etc (no game) So you need both. Looks to get the 'interview' and game to lead the existing attraction to sex
/r/seduction24/08/22 07:34 PM
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there's no tactics that will make her attracted to you. She knows within a few seconds. Use your instincts after 10-15 seconds or so, and eject if you can tell she's not into you
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:57 AM
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but even in cold approach, you need looks to get you in the door (and game to close it)
/r/seduction24/08/22 11:56 AM
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it's still difficult to find a match - be that on dating apps or even when asking people out in real life. cold approach is simply tinder, but in person, tbh
/r/seduction24/08/22 10:53 AM
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yes, there's nothing cringey about the approaches. You can 't force attraction in a girl. Them girls were not into him, and they still woudln't be now. No big deal. His game was fine
/r/TheRedPill22/08/22 10:31 AM
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tbh, i tihnk if you to approach both of them girls now in the same situation, the results would be the same. they were both clear 'no girls'. You get laid now because you approach so much. Same as me. It's about finding the girls who like you
/r/TheRedPill22/08/22 10:30 AM
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I feel like mystery had really bad game, tbh. Like, it's hard to watch his infields. I have some fairly rare infields that are hard to find (from premium products that mystery himself gets deleted from various video sharing platforms very fast).
/r/seduction22/08/22 08:41 AM
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they say looks get your foot in the door Game seals the deal
/r/seduction22/08/22 07:17 AM
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girls have always been the more visual ones, tbh
/r/seduction21/08/22 04:52 PM
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that it's a numbers game and to not get dejected just because you got a large handful of rejections in a row because the same thing would happen to the 'coach' if he was in your body at that time. Keep your chin up. You don't need to buy more courses or use more pushpull lines. You weren't rejected because your 'game' lacked negs and cold reads. You just weren't her type. What you need to do is brush is off and make a shit load more approaches until you find the girls who are into you. Same as m…
/r/seduction17/08/22 06:50 AM
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I agree
/r/seduction16/08/22 03:04 PM
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Well we've already agree that what people are calling game IS basic social skills lol. 'These points aren't 'baseline' to us guys here' etc. As for seduction, there's no surface I haven't scratched lol. Yet the guys who teach the most 'advanced' stuff (whether it's ross jefferies with his Neuro linguistic programing or Vin Dicarlo or the RSD guys on Todd Valentine etc) can't do any better than me or you in terms of approach to lay. They can bang a large percentage of the girls who are into them.…
/r/seduction16/08/22 02:08 PM
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indicator of interest. The girl might look at you and subtle smile, or Maybe she flicks her hair and stands by you at the bar even though there's plenty of room at the bar etc. She's Letting you know she thinks you're hot and she wants you to talk to her Guys who get laid (and with a high approach to lay rate) tend to be decent looking guys who are good at noticing these things so they know who to approach. They approach the girls they know want them, essentially.
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:59 PM
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All these points are not "baseline" to someone who never had a girlfriend or to people who aren't good socially. yes. You've kind of proved my point for me there. People are now calling 'game' not being super weird and with zero social skills. And of course, if that's the case, I agree that 'game' is very important. If you stare at teh floor and need to be taught no to scratch your balls when you open etc, then yes, I suggest people 'learn game'. Learn not to spit when you talk etc So the sub is…
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:58 PM
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Confidence counts. But it comes back to 'don't fuck up' basically. In my example, Danny Devito is confident as fuck! But it doesn't change his 150 rejections when cold approaching the hot 18 year olds. I promise! If anyone thinks otherwise, then I can only assume they are mentally completely fucked lol.
/r/seduction16/08/22 01:00 PM
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lol, I know. These coaches and stuff are getting rich from the gullible ;(
/r/seduction16/08/22 11:48 AM
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agree I advocate cold approach. I do it a lot. I've gotten laid a lot. It's a numbers game. For everyone
/r/seduction16/08/22 11:08 AM
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It's true that the better your game, the less likely you are to mess up with the girls who are into you (the yes girls) - But the bar is low! You don't (or shouldn't) need to read books to know that you need to hold eye contact and not stare at the floor, or that you need to make a move /escalate. It's baseline. But it doesn't help if you open a girl who isn't attracted.
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:50 AM
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his routines and understanding of logistics is irrelevant if she's not into him. Just delaying the rejection. As you see in infields from 'experts' lol And of the girls that ARE into you, it's all just common sense stuff. Don't be super weird. Escalate. Or are we now calling it 'game' to not be super weird and to have base level social skills. Maybe we are. And that's partly where the confusion lies in this sub lol
/r/seduction16/08/22 09:47 AM
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was she asking you questions and stuff back? If so, it shouldn't just stall out so easily. If she wasn't, then the interaction was always going to stall out. Even if you done 'cold reads' instead etc. If she's not asking you stuff too its a one sided interaction and destined for failure. She's not interested seduction isn't a one sided thing
/r/seduction16/08/22 08:21 AM
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if she's not interested, game ain't gonna cut any ice lol. Even infields will show you this if you watch carefully. Look at their pulls and then look at how the interaction started. And then look at their rejections (that go in their rejection compilations in their paid products etc) If you open a girl and she's clearly not attracted to you, no amount of negs and teases and pushpull lines and self amusement and good body language etc is going to magically make her wanna bang you i'm afraid. What…
/r/seduction15/08/22 03:05 PM
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I wouldn't necessarily go that far lol. I mean, at least they approach. And it's the approaching that gets you laid. It's a numbers game. It's not really a game of 'skill' as such (because no amount of 'game' can turn a legit 'no' into a 'yes') I used to be super into the PUA world and I got laid a fair bit, but in hindsight I was very naive, and nothing I learnt actually 'worked'. Being somewhat 'normal' is about as good as one needs to be or can be. What worked was approaching until i found a …
/r/seduction15/08/22 02:38 PM
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this. The problem people have is that they've been fooled by PUA dating coaches marketing and they think if she's not interested they just need to do more 'game' on her to make her interested. More pushpull. More negs. More teasing and DHV stories. Even BETTER eye contact! That's simply not how it works lol
/r/seduction14/08/22 09:47 PM
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I agree, although it's only easy if she is attracted to you. And that's not in your control It's also IMPOSSIBLE if she's not attracted to you (you're not her type and she doesn't want to be seduced by you then your method above wont 'work' lol....of course) But I agree it's all so over complicated. You talk and flirt and escalate. There's no rules. You don't need 'cold read'. The Interview mode most PUA's try so hard to avoid is absolutey fine lol. It's kind of hard to NOT pull if she is into y…
/r/seduction14/08/22 08:19 PM
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it will work if she is attracted to you and it will fail if she's not In other words, it's as 'effective' as any other style of 'game' lol DO it
/r/seduction14/08/22 08:13 PM
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I hear you. She doesn't have to be a fat toad though! :) She could well be a hot girl who is subtly giving him IOI's that people without experience wouldn't pick up on (I think that's what he's saying) But the thing is, I feel what you feel when I watch any infield. 'I can do that'. And I can. Put me in the same body as any coach/PUA you can think of, and we'll get extremely similar results. Put them in my body and their results will be almost identical to mine. The bar in terms of game is low e…
/r/seduction11/08/22 12:04 PM
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OK. Well you're talking about something slightly different (the skill of screening, essentially) and yes, I agree with all of what you said here.
/r/seduction11/08/22 11:41 AM
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PUA coaches success rate varies wildly but it's basically the same as any other guy from the street. No PUA is getting laid 1 in 10 UNLESS he is very good looking. So someone like James Tusk might get that sort of hit rate
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:54 AM
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probably didnt do anything 'wrong'. He just wasn't their type or/and they had boyfriends etc.
/r/seduction11/08/22 10:52 AM
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what causes some men to say shit like "women only care about how tall and good looking you are I have no idea how people can have good looking friends and nightlife experience and think otherwise lol
/r/seduction11/08/22 07:27 AM
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that's kind of true, but it's SO marginal as to not worth worrying about it For example, I agree about the 3 categories Unreceptive/you're not her type/she's not attracted. Whether you have the best game on planet earth, or the worst, it doesn't matter. It's a 'no' from her. And this might apply for 95% of your approaches no matter how much game you have. (depending on your age/looks etc and the age/looks etc of the girls you open) Receptive/yes girl/she thinks you're hot - If you have 'game' it…
/r/seduction10/08/22 10:03 AM
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Then everybody would have the same success rate right? well no. Success is about how attractive you are. If she looks at you and likes what she sees your chances of getting laid are super high (and zero if she doesn't. No matter how much game you have). Having good game means you are less likely to screw it up with the girls who tihnk you are hot haha volume means you have a better chance of finding the girls who are attracted to you
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:14 AM
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it's actually the volume that gets people laid. Not the 'skill'. It's just about finding the girls who think you are hot. From that point, the bar for game is as low as not being super weird and escalating. And if you are not her type, no amount of teases and pushpulls etc will do a damn thing haha
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:11 AM
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as in trying to manipulate someone into finding you attractive? literally impossible lol. That's why there's a constant conflict on this sub. You can't force attraction in a girl. If you are not her type, it's not gonna happen - no matter how many pushpull lines your memorise or how good your 'bodylanguge' is You can't seduce someone who doesn't want to be seduced by YOU. (you're not her type and she doesn't find you attractive)
/r/seduction10/08/22 09:09 AM
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tell him he's good looking and that you find him attractive? Then, if he's into you too, he'll know he can make a move without risking an awkward rejection
/r/seduction10/08/22 07:34 AM
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the problem is that you can't seduce a girl who doesn't want to be seduced by you. This game/seduction stuff isn't magic. The best 'PUA' coach in the world gets rejected a huge percentage of the time (they only bang the 'yes girls') It's not up to you. If you are not her type then you can't 'seduce' her. in order to get her in bed, you just need to escalate on her from chatting to touching and flirting and moving towards a place where sex can happen. That's the game. Although only possible if sh…
/r/seduction09/08/22 10:40 AM
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it's just a part of 'looks'. Same as how being tall can add to looks. As does being ripped. And being 'handsome' adds MASSIVELY to your looks. If your looks are good, girls will want you. Same as how we care about looks with girls. It's just how attraction works
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:11 AM
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I wouldn't say i've noticed bars become more like a sausage fest and i feel like the split is the same, BUT I really do feel I notice a more and more 'closed off' atmosphere whereby girls go to bars with their friend group and do NOT have any intention at all of 'mixing' with randoms which makes cold approach ever harder lol (at the moment i feel lke the only guy in my friend group who has any success is the really handsome mofo who basically gets cold approached by girls). But it's as if girls …
/r/seduction09/08/22 07:04 AM
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at least you have the self awareness to realise it. Truth is that it's basically all about looks (gets your foot in teh door) although if you're getting laid lots, you should probably at least pat yourself on the back for not screwing it up (especially if the girls are very hot). That's actually what 'game' is. Not magically making a girl attracted to your ugly ass with 'cold reads' and 'spiking her emotions' and shit lol. But simply leading the existing attraction to sex If you watch infields, …
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:05 PM
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This. It can't really be helped If you approach a girl who thinks you're hot and you just happen to be her type etc, then she will never think of you as a creep Similarly if you open and try to flirt with a girl who isn't at all attracted to you, through no fault of your own, she'll think of you as a creep. It is what it is It's not really about 'game'. It's about 'finding your audience' as you nicely put it. No PUA in existance can persuade or seduce a girl who doesn't want to be seduced by him…
/r/seduction03/08/22 09:35 AM
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they weren't glued too an ipad from the age of 6 and know how to hold a conversation. Also 18 year old girls now have been creeped on hard since they were like 13 and tend to think they are Kardashian or something haha. The whole 'aloof'/'what makes you think you can talk to me?' act
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:27 AM
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I'll talk about the community as a whole rather than this sub specifically My sex life improved a lot since discovering the community. I've slept with a good number of girls now - some of them being girls who are the sort of girls i'd use to fantasize about. HOWEVER, i'll also admit that this has all been a byprodiuct of simply approaching loads of girls and thus putting the odds in my favour! The odds of 'finding' the girls who are into me (through lots of approaches) as opposed to making them …
/r/seduction03/08/22 07:22 AM
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I think the 'if it's not a hell yes then move on' thing is more to do with a cold approach. Like, any of us who have been at this for a while and also watched lots of premium infields etc know that nobody can 'turn' a girl from 'no' to 'yes'. Like if you open her and she's basically ignoring you, making it clear you're not her type or maybe even telling you she's not interested etc, then no amount of 'game' in the world will help. It's a number game and a game that is played on the attracted gir…
/r/seduction02/08/22 05:13 PM
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Only works if she finds your attractive already. unfortunately that's the reality of everything when it comes to 'game' lol. Everyone knows that nowadays, i think. if you're not her type, you can pushpull and tease and neg and make 'cold reads' and have good eye contact and all the game in the world, but it's only gonna delay the rejection. That's why it really is just a numbers game
/r/seduction01/08/22 08:47 AM
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absolutely not! It just doesn't happen I've seen average looking guys OCCASIONALLY hit a 'lottery win lay' and bang a really cute girl. (i've done this a few times too lol) And i've seen old/ugly(?) rich guys with good looking girls but who are clearly with them because they fund their lifestyle (you see this a lot in Ibiza etc). No attraction. It's basically business I've never seen a 'regular' (non super rich) ugly guy slay hot puss on the reg. He doesn't have attraction and can't get it. Only…
/r/seduction30/07/22 07:39 AM
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I think as a generalisation, girls all want the same guys. The good looking dudes who all other girls want. Some of these girls might be able to bang him, but he won't stick around. He can get any girl he wants due to being such a handsome stud. He's enjoying himself! As these girls get older they lose their own looks and know that they need to settle for second best. They are also jaded having been pumped and dumped by the various handsome dudes over the years and they realise they are getting …
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:11 PM
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also his infields. Very awkward guy. No game. Girls reactions are always bad. No way does he get laid for free. Only thing he has going for him is height so could probably get laid every 200 approaches or so maybe with a fairly hot girl?
/r/TheRedPill29/07/22 07:34 AM
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are you??!!! haha. Manifesting!! Might as well start reading tea leaves, tarot cards and ask tooth fairy + Santa Claus to fulfill your wishes lmao
/r/seduction29/07/22 07:21 AM
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everyone probably wants the 2nd one, but manifesting ain't gonna do shit haha. You need to work on yourself (mainly looks) and then take what shows interest in you
/r/seduction28/07/22 07:19 PM
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when i stopped trying to 'game' girls. Approach. see if she's into you. If so, escalate. If not, move on as you say; 'not rocket science' lol
/r/seduction28/07/22 05:24 PM
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Realised i had amazing game when i realised all the theory is all irrelevant tbh. Mark Manson ftw
/r/seduction28/07/22 04:58 PM
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what do you think the difference is?
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:33 PM
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I'd actually say not to dive in too deep! Don't make the mistake i did, and many others did where you read everything and get analysis paralysis etc. Here's the thing - there's no super 'advanced' level where you can basically get any girl you want. At all. It's nothing like that. Even for the 'pros'. They get rejected just as much as you or me. I promise (but since it's their livelyhood they need to bend the truth to keep sales up). Not to mention that the more you read, you'll realise that all…
/r/seduction27/07/22 08:46 AM
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"hey, how's your night going?" and they, guess what, looked at me like a moron and laughed in my face before turning away. Gotta love it. With nightgame, get used to this. You did nothing wrong here but don't forget that it's a numbers game and the result is completely out of your control, even if you have the best 'game' in the world. Lots of girls just won't be at all interested and that is a typical reaction (many just look at you like you're on fire and walk away a few feet etc lol) THe same…
/r/seduction26/07/22 08:23 AM
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just take a shower, bro! :) haha
/r/seduction25/07/22 08:21 PM
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i'd say this is somewhat true, although I guess it's on a sliding scale. I tend to think some 'game' is nearly always required (as you say) although if you really are stupidly handsome, you'd be amazed at how little 'game' you can get away with, at least in some environments and with certain age groups (very young girls) maybe! I have 2 friends who pretty much fall into that category. One is fairly cool and funny etc ('game') but the other dude (who is probably even better looking! legit male mo…
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:55 PM
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you've kind of answered your own question with your observations of good looking guys having girls all over them. Only on seddit do we live in a fantasy world where 'girls don't care about looks' lol It still amazes me that this idea is pushed. It actually undermines everything else! End of the day, she needs to think you are good looking. You don't need to be a male model or the best looking guy she's ever seen, but she needs to think you are kinda hot. Of course! You don't want to kiss a girl …
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:27 PM
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same as any other environment Be her type. Flirt
/r/seduction25/07/22 05:24 PM
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good game, good game. Just keep going. It's a numbers game. Them girls weren't interested. Nothing you could do. Eventually you find the girls that are!
/r/seduction25/07/22 01:07 PM
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vegas and Budapest. Of course thailand too, but i'm white so that's really just cheating lol.
/r/seduction25/07/22 08:45 AM
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Why is he trying to teach people to be persistent with women who aren’t interested in them anyway Because he needs to have people believe that it's possible in order for him to keep making money. If people all accepted the truth that you can't convince a girl to be attracted to you, his business model would be in serious trouble despite what i said, Todd isn't even that bad and is far from the worst of the offenders lol. Don't forget that this is a business. They'll all lie and pull out all the …
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:48 AM
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game has gone pretty mainstream over teh last 3-4 years though. Everyone knows all about game and all teh techniques and stuff at this point, but people also realise that it doesn't actually 'work' as such. Not to say game doesn't matter at all (you can still screw it up even if she thinks you'r hot if you are scared to escalate or can't look her in the eye etc), but unless you are her type, no pushpulls or negs or dhv stories and good 'bodylanguage' or 'walking into the club with a hot friend' …
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:16 AM
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I call absolute bullshit on it though Yeah, it's bullshit lol. He's eve got infields where it's so clear that he lies about 'pulling' (one that springs to mind is where the girl didn't like him at all and tried to sneak out of the club to get a cab, and then he basically jumped into a cab with her after startling her and asked to share the cab since he was going the same way and then called it a 'pull') He has no more super powers than anybody else. It's just he has to pretend he does as this is…
/r/seduction25/07/22 07:10 AM
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i think the sometimes negative body language can actually just mean shyness. I 100% know that you can't 'game' a girl and effectively change her mind and make her attracted. If you're not her type, your game simply doesn't work. I think on the 0.05% of the times someone pulls a girl who seemed a little 'negative' at the beginning, it was just that she happened to be shy (but she was always attracted) But i've been out a billion times with lots of different wingmen, and i've never seen someone do…
/r/seduction24/07/22 07:53 PM
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Most of the bragging is from guys who managed to pull girls who were cold and uninterested at first I never see them posts. All i ever see are posts that mimic what you see in infields (they either 'game' a girl who isn't interested and they get rejected, or they open a girl who is super keen and they bang her) If somebody claism they can 'turn' a girl from 'sorry, not intertested. you're not my type' into sex, they are just lying lol. It's never even been done by pros out of like 2500 infields
/r/seduction24/07/22 05:17 PM
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if you watch infields, you'll see it's exactly the same for the pros.(they only hook up with what we call the 'yes girls'. Girls who are very receptive from the open due to them being attracted before he even finished his opener) I've got hard drives full of infields and you cant miss the pattern. If she's not into him, his pushpull lines and stuff don't help at all. Just delays the rejection Game is really just about capitalising on the attraction and turning it into a lay without screwing up Y…
/r/seduction24/07/22 10:49 AM
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One thing i've noticed from infields is that even the professionals only actually hook up with the girls who are very receptive to the approach. It's always the same pattern. Every infield shot over the last 15 years basically. You see if all the time. When a girl he opens is cold and unreceptive (doesn't look like she's interested/attracted), at best he can stretch the interaction a few mins with cold reads and teases etc, but it always still ends in a rejection. If game really was some magic t…
/r/seduction24/07/22 08:42 AM
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if you're good looking like you say, then the girls are already attracted. The hard bit is already done. You just need to actually meet them and make a move now (push for date, go for kiss etc) you already have access to more girls than most here, even if they have 'game' (since looks get your foot in the door and 'game' converts them attracted leads to sex. But the bar for game is so so low that it's not even really worth worrying about for 95% of guys. Most people just instinctively know how t…
/r/seduction22/07/22 06:05 PM
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can you share a screenshot of the insta chat? thanks dude
/r/seduction22/07/22 08:13 AM
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good looking dudes lol
/r/seduction20/07/22 09:31 PM
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i think work on your look (style, fitness etc) instead of your 'game'. You just need to not be super weird and that's enough game. And of course escalate on the girls who like you.
/r/seduction20/07/22 08:44 AM
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this is why cold approach is close to impossible tbh (unless you are super lucky in that you live in a country where people are still kinda social with strangers, AND you are really good looking) But like an average looking guy in France or something (lots of Europe are very much NOT social with strangers) hitting on cute 18 year olds? He'd have a 1 in 10,000 shot tbh lol
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:43 AM
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ding ding. Winner. It's largely to do with the invention of the smart phone etc. We live in a different time now. Most young girls will look at you like you are on fire if you just start trying to speak to them lol
/r/seduction19/07/22 08:37 AM
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UK is a whole different vibe, man! haha. US people won't understand. Yes, going out solo is just considered weird in the UK. Strangers don't just chat and talk like they do in the US so it's a real uphill battle to even exchange pleasantries with another guy about the football or whatever! Just doesn't happen here (unless maybe up North) And following on from that, the girls can be truly brutal on a night out. Unless you are very very much her physical type it will either be plain ignoring you u…
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:50 AM
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As you say, it's just the price of being chad (girls approaching you and trying to kiss and bang you without even having to talk haha) Although a true chad has the immune system of a freaking ox and doesn't get sick
/r/seduction10/07/22 10:45 AM
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I can't remember their usernames so can't tag them, but i've seen some members here claim that with 'game' you can get any girl and what you look/how old you are etc doesn't matter at all. I think it's pure fiction and not even professionals can 'turn' a girl from no to yes (check infields) but maybe they can chime in to your thread and tell you what to say to girls to make them sexually attracted Real talk is that you're never gonna be some stud picking up all the hot girls. You're gonna be a '…
/r/seduction08/07/22 07:34 AM
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yeah, todd is pretty cringe. I used to like him too lol. I've seen every single paid 'product' from every PUA. My opinion, with experience, has changed a lot over the years. Not one of these 'pros' (and not one person on reddit either lol) can pull of this feat of walking up too any girl he wants, even if she thinks he's not good looking, and use his 'game' to make her wanna bang him. I promise it's pure fantasy. i'm embarassed that in my earlier years i fell for it haha It really is pretty simp…
/r/seduction07/07/22 09:44 AM
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probably no problems/mistakes being made. It's just a numbers game. When he opens a girl who thinks he's good looking, he'll probably get her. Same as every other guy
/r/seduction07/07/22 09:42 AM
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exactly! i've noticed the same thing. It's honestly all irrelevant. She either thinks yuor'e attractive or she doesn't. It's out of your hands.
/r/seduction07/07/22 09:38 AM
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i personally don't think that's the case. I used to watch lots of infields and none of the experts can do what you suggest , despite their wealth of 'knowledge'. I've never seen someone pull a girl who was clearly not into him when he opened, either. Only read anecdotal evidence from people on reddit etc. And i have good looking friends who girls literally throw themselves at. It's unbelievable. LIke dogs on heat lol. He just needs to not do something super stupid and he'll get her in bed since …
/r/seduction06/07/22 04:27 PM
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it's fine, tbh. Just a bit scary for some men End of the day, if she thinks you're hot, indirect and direct will both work And if she doesn't think you're hot, both will NOT work - so it's just a personal preference
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:47 PM
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if a girl isn't attracted to you (like, you're just not her physical type like how some girls you might think are ugly etc) then honestly you can't make her attracted. Everyone knows all the game stuff at this point. If you're not her type it never works. Even the pros on infields can't do it if you watch carefully (they pull the yes girls) Mark manson says game is played on the yes girls (and some 'maybe girls') and you can't negotiate attraction. 'no girls' are completely a waste of time/impos…
/r/seduction06/07/22 03:22 PM
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it works fine! everything works (within reason) There's really no rules. You just need to be her type and from there don't screw up by failing to escalate etc
/r/seduction03/07/22 05:10 PM
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this is kind of true lol. We're quick to blame ourselves for everything and think we'll find the answers reading about 'game', but it's really out of your control. If she thinks you're good looking and she happens to be an approachable, social person, then you have a shot. You need the perfect storm. Otherwise the reaction from girls is gonna be bordeline combative. It's just the way it is. I got laid last weekend from cold approach and so went out again last night on a high with confidence from…
/r/seduction03/07/22 05:05 PM
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Probably didn't look enough like your photo? I'M guessing that's the case. I tend to use photos that don't 'do me any favours' if that makes sense lol. There's just no point in trying to catfish with photos where you look way better than you do in real life. If you then meet her and she's not attracted to how you look (like how she was in your profile pic) it's just gonna be a waste of time Not saying that that's what you done or that that was necessarily the reason for her weird reaction, but j…
/r/seduction02/07/22 11:09 AM
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yes, me too. I think marketing is largely to blame and gives people an unrealistic idea of what is possible. It's a business after all. It's really just about leading the already attracted girl to sex, basically. As you imply. Not the most difficult thing in the world, but it is possible to screw up and people who have 'game' lose these attracted girls less frequently
/r/seduction02/07/22 11:05 AM
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But do not stand there and keep making someone who might not be having the best night feel more awkward. i used to read about something called 'plowing' where you basically keep trying to seduce a girl even if she doesn't seem into you with all kinds of techniques i read about. It never once worked for me or anyone i've ever known. Just wasting time and making her feel more uncomfortable the more you try to stick in there like an alabama tick! you can't game your way to attraction I really think…
/r/seduction02/07/22 09:08 AM
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nah, just don't be super fat or super skinny. Getting good looking (facially) is the actual game changer.
/r/seduction01/07/22 08:00 PM
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Being in shape is like a part of what makes up someones looks and i think it's fair to say that looks are what matters when it comes to sexual attraction (game on a girl who isn't attracted to you still = rejection for example) I don't think that most girls want or care if a guy is super ripped or huge though. That's more a fetish for some girls (and a turn off for others) If you wanna lift major weight and get ripped to shreds do it for yourself. Don't expect much change in how girls treat you.…
/r/seduction01/07/22 11:04 AM
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you and u/The_Wisest hit the nail on the head i think I used to worry about this stuff a lot and couldn't work out why convos weren't going anywhere despite me trying many methods i'd read about on pickup forums etc what i learnt was that it doesn't seem to matter, tbh. If you are her type, it all just happens by itself. she takes up the conversational slack and asks you things and laughs at anything you say etc etc And if you're not her type it's like the best 'game' and stuff doesn't help - it…
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:25 PM
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I really think location is a huge huge factor that isn't spoke about enough. I'd say it's way more important than 'game', and nearly as important as looks (i don't think one can honestly deny that looks are the most important thing when it comes to hooking up with the opposite sex) I've had drastically different results in my life based on where i've lived and stuff. To do with your personality and how it fits in, the vibe of the environment, and very importantly how approachable people are in t…
/r/seduction27/06/22 04:13 PM
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maybe it's just more that the super hot girls can sometimes tend to be a bit stuck up and conceited? They have handsome celebs in their DM's and so find 99% of guys invisible? So it's not the attitude, but just their beauty that you're attracted too which is normal?
/r/seduction22/06/22 07:32 AM
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that's always been my problem too. I looked into it ages ago and all the events in my area were stuff that was full of much older people and events that really weren't conductive to getting laid! But I live in a weak ass area. Finally starting to see some events happen now for some reason, but imagine some places are full of good events and it could be a little gold mine for some ppl who aren't aware of it
/r/seduction21/06/22 05:42 PM
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it was just a pub night - we all met in a trendy bar that had a little dancefloor
/r/seduction21/06/22 05:41 PM
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that sounds strange, tbh. Maybe it depends on where you live, but that sounds like a nightmare opener for here
/r/seduction21/06/22 10:51 AM
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