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It’s not a me problem when it’s most of society. And most people don’t have a problem with an age gap when both partners are old (er). It’s when one person is 18 and the other is 32. That’s an obvious imbalance of power and makes you think the 32 year old must find teenagers attractive, they can’t get a partner their own age or their mental age must be still at adolescence. All which will get them judged.
/r/seduction17/04/22 12:34 AM
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If everyone’s an adult then it’s perfectly legal and your choice. Personally I find most age gap relationships to be toxic and predatory but doesn’t mean they all are. you also can’t expect other people to have no opinion either. Some people find large age gaps creepy. Especially when it’s 10+ years and it’s a pattern. But you can ignore them and do what you want 🤷‍♀️
/r/seduction16/04/22 12:41 PM
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No u
/r/seduction16/04/22 12:14 PM
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I believe her
/r/seduction16/04/22 01:29 AM
8

Obviously men who are 8-10s. So hot, tall, rich and social. Good luck lol
/r/seduction16/04/22 01:25 AM
2

How many do you know then? I guess it depends on the people you associate with. It’s not normal or a huge “problem” like op is saying, if it is in your world then you clearly are in an area with sex workers (not saying it’s always bad).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 10:04 AM
3

What world do you live in? It’s very uncommon lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 12:13 AM
1

Yeah that sounds about right, I think men going out with younger women is more common then vice versa but generally most people who are in relationships are of a similar age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 11:52 PM
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Maybe it gets easier to date women of a similar age as you are more established and confident but that’s also true for women (women can get casual relationships at any time but I’m talking about dating/relationships). I just don’t see how an “old” average guy would do better with a 21 year old over someone her own age. Unless he’s rich or very handsome? What would be the point? Unless daddy issues I guess. Personally I rarely see large age gaps either way and the data definitely doesn’t support …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 10:13 AM
1

IT IS NOT TRUE. I have NEVER heard anyone say men’s value increases with age irl lmao. Literally only incels or red pill types believe that crap! I was the only one who dated “older men” when I was younger (8 years max older) and I was definitely an outlier and was teased lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:35 PM
2

I actually think it’s the opposite. When you’re young you are just looking for hot guys to have fun with but after 25 that gets boring so you are more focused on career, looks and personality and most people are more comfortable and confident when slightly older as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 11:31 PM
4

Meh I don’t think most men are boring/desperate and easily manipulated. If so then so are the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 11:35 PM
8

Hell yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 02:42 AM
1

It doesn’t trigger me at all. Why would I or any woman care about incels on the internet and their opinion on women? No one cares lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/22 08:42 AM
4

One photo in totally different lighting aren’t comparable. I bet I can find another photo of her right now where she looks just as stunning. Don’t you know how photos work? Anyway all this hitting the wall stuff is incel garbage so who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:25 AM
8

You people are just coming up with new phrases for normal things. Hitting the wall means just normal ageing? Ok. Literally everyone ages. And btw that is a misleading photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 03:08 AM
1

And I date men and also have family and friends who date men so I know that most people date/casual with their “league”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/22 12:34 AM
3

Being funny is one of the most important factors in attracting women. Don’t underestimate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 09:05 PM
1

That’s not my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:56 PM
4

The top percentage! Lol it’s like you people don’t go outside! Most of us are average looking going after other average looking people, I rarely saw an unattractive man/women with someone beautiful. And it’s your own problem you didn’t have fun, you can’t blame women who did. But it’s better men like you don’t settle down because you’d be a terrible partner to a woman 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:10 AM
4

I don’t know any women who want to marry at 18-21. We aren’t begging men for marriage like you want to think lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 11:06 AM
0

Then I don’t think you can expect high quality women. But you might get lucky who knows
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:57 AM
1

The catch here is the “quality” part. You’d probably have to be a high quality man yourself to pull it off but going to parties/expanding your social circle will help massively.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:19 AM
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I think both sexes want to have fun in their teenage years and 20s, then get bored and want to settle down around 30. Problem here is the men on PPD are mad they aren’t able/willing to have fun with different women when they’re young so concoct a narrative that women are somehow immoral or bad for behaving normally.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:18 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:13 AM
3

I guess it’s because women are stereotyped into wanting relationships while men just want casual so when the situation is reversed people get confused
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 01:13 AM
11

This is true. Keep texting short, light and fun. Try to meet soon otherwise it’s super boring and you’ll get ghosted
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:58 AM
2

Am a girl. Can confirm.
/r/seduction31/03/22 12:50 AM
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They did just google lol you just wanna believe woman bad 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 09:23 PM
2

No they didn’t lmao I remember hearing about will smith’s conquests ages ago. You probably only heard about it since jada talked about it but will smith confirmed their open relationship yearsss ago
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:30 PM
7

Exactly. This sub is so transparent smh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:09 PM
-3

They have an open relationship I thought? He’s famously slept with other women too?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 06:06 PM
2

I think that’s the case for a lot of women. I don’t have to know them very well, but I definitely need to talk to him first
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:50 AM
2

Unless they have an attractive personality (to me) I just can’t be attracted to any man regardless of how hot they are
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 12:44 AM
4

0% 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:57 PM
1

If you’re not comfortable clubbing then don’t go. Maybe bars would be better? Otherwise I would suggest hobbies (although this can be difficult to find depending on where you live) or volunteering?
/r/seduction14/03/22 01:45 AM
5

Ok none then 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:19 AM
12

What does a Chad even mean? I’ve seen some posters here say any man who has sex is a Chad? Or is it just that “666” rubbish?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 01:14 AM
2

Confidence Charm Strength - mentally more then physically Taking the lead/assertiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/22 12:09 AM
9

Compared to disrespected, lied too etc? Yes actually I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 05:04 PM
4

Attitudes like yours make me glad PPD/red pill/incel or whatever crap you call yourselves aren’t getting women. Women don’t want us wah wah…Good!! 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:40 PM
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Men here just can’t seem to understand this. They really believe all women just sit back and have to decide which one of the 100s of honest, respectful gentlemen to choose from and then they’ll live happily ever after ❤️. Listen to us. We get “perused” but for sex, for an ego boost, to be abused, to be used and at best just wastes our time by lying to us about their real intentions. It’s not better on our side.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 02:38 PM
1

Most of Reddit is an incel space tbh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 02:11 AM
2

Probably because on PPD it’s a constant barrage of anti woman hate so the women here are just defending our gender. And it’s obvious some women see others as competition, it’s just not as wide spread as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:39 AM
2

It’s good to take a break sometimes. I lurk here and on other incel/red pill subs for laughs but it can get mentally draining constantly hearing about 80/20/“average man can’t get laid/Chad/Stacy etc. And yes, I’m embarrassed to know so much of the terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:35 AM
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Depends how far back you’re talking about. In the recent past (50s/60s) then yes, men did need “game”. Men didn’t just go up to a woman and pick her. She had agency lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 01:32 AM
3

He probably means her teeth aren’t stained yellow as of that’s a bad thing 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:33 PM
1

WTF even is this sub?! Honestly you people need serious help. I feel gross just passing my time around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:20 PM
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Reddit seems to be primarily nerds I think? I see it a lot on every sub. I wonder why?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 10:03 PM
-5

I think banning the main incel subs just made them seek out new communities to infiltrate lol.
/r/seduction24/02/22 02:02 AM
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OP don’t listen to all the deniers in the comments, you hit the nail on the head. I don’t use online dating as I don’t think it’s worth it due to the problems you listed. It can be grim out for both sexes. And I suppose this is Reddit so I guess this response by the Reddit boys is expected.
/r/seduction24/02/22 12:43 AM
3

And the worst ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 01:22 PM
0

Yes that’s kinda true IMO. The uk does have a negative attitude and laughs at others who have big ambitions. We loveeee to complain here unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:52 PM
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Go live in another country then where you are free to abuse and rape women then and stop complaining about women having “freedom”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:50 PM
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Lmao no. There was a big case of a police officer killing a woman he stopped on the street during COVID at around 8pm. The police (?) then said women shouldn’t leave the house after dark to avoid men raping/murdering them. So the very clever female lawmaker said why should women be put under curfew? Why not men shouldn’t leave the house after dark as they are the ones murdering/raping women? Of course everyone was up in arms. MEN shouldn’t leave the house after dark? How absurd!! (Of course wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/22 07:49 PM
1

I’m pretty sure more men are fat then women yin most of the western world. Also I think we should acknowledge that fat men are less attractive then vice versa. Some overweight women look decent; smaller waist, hips boobs etc. Whereas men….
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 07:42 PM
1

No way. Id view it as creepy and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 03:41 PM
3

Ew an incel 🙈
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:49 AM
7

And the neckbeards are most vocal when demanding a young, virginal beautiful women. Works both ways 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:39 AM
1

It is but it’s very thin. When I was under 20 bmi I had no waist/shape and now at 22 bmi I look slim but healthier and have a much better shape at 0.68 ratio. Everyone’s different basically you can’t put a Bmi limit on attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:38 AM
1

Beauty standards are sad. It’s sad men are supposed to be tall and fit. It’s sad women are supposed to be slim and shorter. But it’s life 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:23 PM
1

Well that’s fine to have requirements too. If someone’s requirement was a big woman then I wouldn’t meet it but I don’t argue that they are big meanies and give us smaller women a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:21 PM
1

Well yes, being short is a feminine trait so less desirable in men I agree. It makes me laugh how men get so mad about it yet enforce stricter gender roles and beauty standards on women. I don’t see them arguing that it’s unfair men like a small waist/curvy body on women as they can’t help it and apple shaped women are discriminated against. It’s hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:20 PM
1

I’m not a tall woman but I absolutely believe they also face rejection from men due to their height. Maybe not as much as very short men as men are more desperate for sex then women but to say only women are “height queens” is stupid. It just makes me lol the amount on men on this app that go literally mental about women having height standards. Get over it boys, women can have standards too you know!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 12:53 PM
4

Oh I didn’t know that. Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:56 PM
-1

I’ve never used tinder I thought anyone on there could message you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 12:18 PM
-4

Bumble is good as in it stops women getting harassed and sent dick pics online but it’s true that women don’t like making the first move, even if it’s just a “hi”. There should be an app (maybe there is?) that only allows a man to message first if the woman agrees to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 11:59 AM
2

Lol none. I’m just here for the free entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 01:59 AM
2

I’ve also witnessed first hand just how many men are willing or actively trying to cheat on their partners. I’ve seen women do it too but nowhere near as much and they were usually teenagers I’d early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/22 10:43 PM
1

A couple of years. I read it as entertainment but I have to be careful as reading how awalt/this is how you can use a woman for sex etc can be mentally unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:57 AM
1

I haven’t dated any red pill men but I have met and interacted with men who would agree with red pill beliefs and it wasn’t pleasant. They would neg me and other women, liked to think they were somehow “better” then me due to being a male and only valued/objectified looks/youth/agreeableness. I wouldn’t have known all these tricks/the meaning if I didn’t frequent this sub/trp so for that I’m grateful.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:57 AM
1

Not unless I already knew him and liked him a lot. Like he has other green flags that can overcome it. Lots of women I know earn more then their partners I think it’s pretty common now.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 12:47 AM
2

I’ve noticed that men with insecurities project them onto others/women. So they become aggressive/rude/overly arrogant etc. Often abusive men/men who routinely cheat have a load of insecurities that they are trying to mask which is why it’s often a red flag. Maybe women do too but I’ve mainly seen it with males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:55 PM
4

Anyone who actually believes the 80/20 Is extremely naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:52 PM
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They use their services then hate themselves so complain about the women rather then look inwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 01:49 PM
2

I agree with this. Maybe it’s down to men literally running the world (government/media/high power)? Not sure but it seems women like men much more then vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:23 AM
1

It’s obviously a “certain“ demographic of males though im sure you’d agree on that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:28 PM
8

That sub is literally incels under rating women and over rating males, it’s actually comical it’s so transparent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:18 PM
3

Me too, I don’t have the time of energy to date multiple men at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 11:17 PM
0

Doesn’t that include gay men? I had a seminar about uk dv statistics and he said the increase of male victims are mainly from same sex relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:12 AM
4

Do you also come here to laugh at these clueless men?
/r/seduction06/12/21 10:17 PM
3

I’m sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/21 03:26 PM
1

There is no logical explanation. Men and women should be equal these days so yes first dates should be 50/50. But we do not live in a truly equal world. And like other posters have stated it’s something many MEN insist on. I have also been told by men irl/noticed myself that if a man really likes you he will prefer to pay. If he just wants sex he will try to go 50/50. Men pay money when they feel interest/respect towards the woman. Sorry people I wish it wasn’t like this, but it is in my experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:41 PM
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In general lol pretty common unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:18 AM
2

Experience lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 02:06 AM
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I don’t agree it’s 0 lol there’s quite a few men who will just go after any woman
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:39 PM
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It does. The question was do average women get lots of attention. I said they get MORE attention then average men (but usually negative) but not LOTS of attention like men on this sub seem to believe (“becky has 20 guys chasing her/wanting to date/wife her” etc) more like “becky got catcalled/hit on by the sleazy overweight guy at the club”.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:44 PM
-1

But if all women get attention that means it’s pretty useless right? What women would date a man who asks out every women he sees? I think some men have a hard time understanding why extra attention given to a women is actually worse then no attention given to a man (on average) when the attention will often negatively impact her life (does he just want sex? Will the sex be good or painful? Does he like me or he just wants any woman? Will he harm me? Does he respect me? Etc). Women get it but so…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:28 PM
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Lol not all men are worthless obviously. The OP asked if average women get constant positive attention from men. I simple said that they don’t, but they do have more options for casual sex (which is less likely to even be pleasurable for her) and perhaps have more options to get into a relationship (the quality is not more likely to be better then it is for men though) therefore the attention is useless if it’s not what women want/not beneficial to her at all. Understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:23 PM
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Don’t believe anything that’s on this sub. Many men here believe every woman is worshipped and have 20 men lining up for them. I think most average looking women have more options for sex and perhaps even unfulfilling relationships but obviously the goal is a GOOD partner so it’s meaningless. So no, average women do not get lots of attention
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:23 PM
2

Omg no way. I got the bbc notification and was wondering what it was. That’s like the 4th incel attack I’ve heard about in the west. Scary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/21 10:25 AM
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I kinda agree with the sentiment that it’s better for women to be active and pursue/ask men out. The problem is that she will likely get used/mocked if she does. Especially if she’s not from a progressive big city. So many men will think she’s desperate or say yes to a date when they only want to use her for sex. Whereas if she doesn’t ask men out, those men would ignore her as they don’t actually think she’s worth the effort, which is better for her then being used. So it’s not “safe” for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/21 10:01 AM
1

I’m sorry to hear what you’ve been through. Sounds horrific. But if a woman was technically raped, who are you or anyone to tell her it wasn’t “bad” enough so she doesn’t get to be traumatised? You can’t gatekeep that. Unfortunately rape is very common, and it also takes many forms which are often downplayed or ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:46 AM
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NO. Where did this idea that a freakishly tall (sorry) man is somehow attractive?! You’re height is a slight detriment and face will always be the most important
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:35 AM
3

They won’t believe you. I’ve tried telling them a funny, confident and friendly personality will get you far in dating but they’d rather believe it’s all looks. What you describe sounds totally normal and what I see everyday irl. Good luck convincing any PPD guys though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/21 09:34 AM
1

Explain average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 11:30 PM
2

Exactly! I’ve also found western men to be just as sexist as eastern men but without any benefits. They often expect a woman to work, clean and cook and do the majority of the childcare. At least eastern men will often look after a woman financially so she doesn’t have work if they have children (and often even if they don’t).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:48 PM
2

Me and you are the same :) I totally agree with your post, many people here will disagree (men) with you but obviously it’s a batter vetting strategy then just accepting no effort on his part at all. I also date Middle Eastern/south Asian men and they are more traditional and understand why it’s important to date/impress a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 07:05 PM
1

I’m not white nor have I ever visited that sub lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:08 PM
1

I think you are a man pretending to be a women? If not then why do you hate women (r/whereareallthegoodmen etc)? Strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 10:10 AM
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We’ve been trying to tell you sexism negativity affects men as well but you won’t listen. It’s because boys are seen as sex crazed and strong whereas girls are weak and fragile. So sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/21 12:48 AM
1

Haha a ridiculous man?! Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/21 12:10 PM
3

I think men are definitely more picky with looks then women. They can look like shrek and still expect a model. Women also care but men’s job, personality etc can make up for their lack of looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 11:30 PM
2

I like men who are direct. It’s more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:12 PM
3

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - I like FDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 01:20 AM
1

This is my thinking too. At first I had a lot of empathy for men struggling with masculinity, dating and women. I imagined they just needed some help and understanding. But while being on Reddit and seeing what (some) of these men actually think I now think it’s a good thing no woman will sleep with them as they seem like abusers and woman haters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 11:41 AM
2

I’m not American so I don’t know the study you’re referring too. You don’t have to literally pay women less for the same job (although that does happen) but by making fields (engineering/IT etc) unwelcoming to women, society encouraging women to accept less then men from birth and high levels of harassment, not being taken seriously and stereotyping has created the world of work we see today - women have less money and power then men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:31 PM
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The men in this sub don’t believe the pay gap exists and no amount of evidence will convince them. Also women having standards bad, man having standards good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 10:10 PM
0

No
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:29 PM
1

This is so true. So many men just repeat the same line to every woman he sees hoping it’ll land. They don’t see how insulting that is and wonder why women won’t date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 11:46 PM
1

I’m happy you think my photos are catfish worthy but anyway why argue over something so stupid lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:18 PM
1

Lol look at my photo…where’s my proof huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 04:17 PM
1

Lol I’m a slim woman. You can see my picture. Why are people so mad about fat women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:09 PM
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My photos in my profile. I am clearly not fat but nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 03:08 PM
1

Yeah but some do. But no fat man looks good fat with boobs and ass. So therefore more fat women are desired, not all but some are. No fat man is. Just accept it lol are you a fat man that’s why you mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:24 PM
1

Ok. But women don’t accept a fat man for sex or a relationship so they still do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:20 PM
1

Nah that fat ass and big boobies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:01 PM
1

Doesn’t matter. In general men would rather date a bigger women then vice versa. I’m sorry but there’s nothing at all attractive about fat men. Where can the fat go that is pleasing to women? I don’t like fat women but plenty of men will lust over a girl with big butt, big boobs and thick thighs and stomach. Idk but it’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:01 PM
1

All I know in my country I hear lots of men say they don’t like fat women then I see their girlfriend or wife and she’s overweight (not America fat - 400lbs but I’m talking in the obese range) but usually fat men ALL carry their weight on their stomach only so they look pregnant and most women aren’t attracted to men’s butts and boobs. Just my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:58 AM
1

Being fat as a woman is more attractive (in general) then being a fat man for the reasons I’ve stated. I’m sorry guys but very, very few women actually like a lot of fat on a man, whereas a fat women will find plenty of men who like extra fat especially if they don’t go after white, western guys. Women have an easier time in that respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:42 AM
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Yeah men like flat pancake butts, sure. Most men like big butts especially these days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:39 AM

Women could also look at the RP comments and conclude that all men are trash. But this sub thankfully doesn’t represent most people. Just use it to pass the time, rather then believe anything that’s written here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:41 AM
5

Powerlifter fat looks terrible to most people not involved in the sport. It’s just fat, but hard fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:39 AM

Don’t take anything in this sub or even reddit seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:33 AM
5

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 12:16 AM
0

Why are men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:52 PM
2

This is actually something I’ve seen irl. It’s quite strange, maybe blue collar men feel less powerful and important in their careers so they get that from an affair? Of they have more time? Or their careers aren’t exciting enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:49 PM
21

Conservative men are more chivalrous? Ha. Ha. Ha.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:46 PM
12

You can’t usually tell when she’s clothed. Still more men would be romantically and sexually interested in a fat woman then vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:38 PM
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A fat woman at least hopefully has nice boobs and a big butt which lots of men like. What’s a fat guy have that women want? No girls want to be playing with a dudes tits.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:53 PM
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But that’s often not the case. Haven’t you seen men who will call a woman ugly or fat and then try to sleep with her? I have. Why would that be flattering to a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:14 PM
13

Agree with everything you said
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 08:47 PM
62

I totally agree with you. Women are taught to get validation from men but when you realise how cheap and worthless it is you realise how it’s the worst way to get it. I’ve seen irl how many men will hit on any woman. How is it flattering to be hit on only because of your gender and literally nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:13 PM
1

Not all but majority ? No, the ugliest men I know how the biggest egos I think it’s insecurity Probably yes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:06 PM
2

Yeah and the man shouldn’t be shocked he can’t get a high value woman. Works both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:08 AM
1

You can want what you want. You’re free to not date that girl. But a woman can do what she wants. I totally disagree with your opinion and therefore wouldn’t date a man who thought like that. Better to know we’re incompatible sooner rather then later
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:08 AM
2

What a totally true and reasonable statement. Yes all women must sleep with a man on the first date if she likes him, that’s not a ridiculous opinion at all
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 01:06 AM
2

Just saying what I’m heard on this sub. Those are all pretty common tropes around these parts
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:41 AM
3

None of the posts on PPD make any sense until you realise the only thing these guys care about is sex. That’s it. They don’t care about a respectful, fulfilling relationship. They just want sex as soon as possible. And also not to have to even pay for a cup of coffee first. Because she’s not worth that effort and might be a coffee drinking gold digger. But she should still sleep with him. Like now. Or she’s a bitch because she once slept with another guy on a first date so she’s now obligated to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 12:25 AM
2

Definitely agree, but sometimes strangers see the truth. Would you be happy if your 20 year old daughter went out with a 30 year old? Or your 18 year old son married a 40year old? I wouldn’t because we know it’s a bad deal for the young one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:01 PM
5

I don’t think I know ANY men who are 30 and don’t have serious baggage, as in kids/divorce. Granted quite a few women do too but there are some who don’t but it makes me laugh when single dads refuse to date/belittle single mothers (tbh I only seen this online). And in regards to age age relationships, sure some are fine and work out but like others have stated most are toxic/abusive and I wouldn’t recommend any 20 yr old man or woman to date a 30yr old. Sounds so gross, I’d be embarrassed walki…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:54 AM
10

Disregard everything that is “objective truths about the females” from RP. Anyone who has left their house can see it’s total bull.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 01:14 AM
1

Honestly I wouldn’t be romantically interested, but I’m sure lots of other women would
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 12:22 AM
2

:(
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:25 AM
7

And men never fetishise women they don’t personally find attractive. Women fantasise about Vampires and doctors? You must be very young or very old, like what lmao? Lots of women need to talk to a man to be attracted to him, I actually think this is better for men as they have a chance to get girls with their personality whereas looks are always most important to men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 03:45 PM
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Attraction to a man through just looking at him is impossible for me and I suspect many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/21 02:10 PM
5

That’s such a great point. I’ve also noticed that (I live in the UK) when I apply for male dominated roles I never hear back, regardless of how low pay/desperate they are for staff but the female dominated jobs I get. It annoys me as the male jobs are usually paid slightly better and seems more fun but they refuse to hire women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 11:41 PM
2

Like another poster said, you’re probably boring to her. Never be boring, women aren’t attracted to boring.
/r/seduction10/07/21 10:11 AM
5

Any woman is within her rights to choose a man who pays over a man who doesn’t. Any man is free to choose a woman who wants to split the bill over one who doesn’t. That’s it. That’s literally it. There are so many inequalities within the genders but this is the one that presses you guys the most. Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:43 AM
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Haha that’s a funny story. But you think this is common? I’m that case women, never go anywhere alone with any man as he might be a rapist because that happened to a girl I know (the sad thing is this senecio is most likely then yours). Like I keep saying FINE you don’t have to pay, you can come up with any excuses as to why. You are within your rights. but women have the choice to want to date someone who is willing to pay. Sorry you don’t get to dictate her options.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 09:39 AM
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Lol I just can’t. And I assume you wouldn’t complain if a woman showed up to a date with no make up, ugly clothes, unshaven everywhere? Why should women be held to any beauty standards when men aren’t. Anyway, dating is about getting along if you disagree then don’t date. It’s that simple. Dating isn’t a need, it’s a want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:43 AM
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On another post about this (why is there so many?) I wrote the exact same thing. Why are some men here so paranoid about women “using” then to get a free dinner? You don’t wanna pay guys, fine don’t. There’s no gun to your head. But you can’t force a woman to accept this if other men will be happy to pay and that’s what she wants. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/21 12:11 AM
2

Of course but they never mention how it’s also harder for males to conceive/have healthy children when they’re over 35. It’s obviously targeted only at women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 07:59 AM
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Yes it is. No well adjusted person uses that terminology. It’s literally incel cope. I’m saying when you get older everyone has some sort of baggage, it’s unavoidable.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:17 AM
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The wall is incel revenge fantasy created to made them feel better, the meaning is constantly changing and it’s pretty transparent as to what it’s purpose is. Everyone has baggage of some sort by 30, even if they’ve had no relationships before that definitely counts as baggage as there’s usually a reason (lack of trust etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:45 PM
1

Things aren’t going well over there unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 11:41 PM

Yeah you forgot the other subs that are much worse then the FDS overlaps. Mgtow/incels are extremely hateful towards woman and we all know it. How dare women talk about men the way men frequently talk about women. That’s all I hear from the people who dislike FDS, and reddit is 70% men and many places (like this) have a lot of TRP/incels and garden variety sexists so no offence but I’m not taking advice on what subs are bad from people like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:45 AM

But look at mgtow sub overlaps (surviving infidelity/nofap/4chan and other such subs). FDS really lives in your head rent free. You don’t have to like it. It’s ok, it’s not for you anyway. Just ignore it lol. I never really cared about it before I seen how mad this place is about it, chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/21 01:09 AM
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That’s true I just really don’t like hypocrites but 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:50 PM
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I absolutely loathe that attitude yet it’s so prevalent. “My daughters not allowed to go near boys” why, do men treat women badly or something? But I thought NoT ALL MeN.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 05:05 PM
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I guess I’ve just seen so many adult men try to sleep with women who they call fat/unattractive behind their back. Or stupid for falling for their bs. I’ve been in a relationship most of my adult life so being around men who weren’t trying to sleep with me and over hearing them talk about women was seriously jarring. Maybe it’s just the guys I’ve known but I’ve heard it often. If the guys were told women want to sleep with you and never see you again and they will also laugh at you/insult you wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 03:39 PM
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It’s dehumanising. I think why some men don’t understand why it’s bad is because they see it as being desired and attractive but in reality it’s not actually like that. These men look at you like a piece of meat that has no feelings or autonomy. They pretend to be nice just to have the chance to use you and then discard you. They don’t actually desire “you” they just want access to a small part of you. Especially if you are “different” in some way ie race / overweight etc. They will fetishise yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:50 PM

I’d try to focus on improving my personality (I know sounds cringe) as in definitely be funny/fun to be around. Also try to have a large social circle as that’s how id most likely get dates. I really feel like I repeat this a lot but I’ve genuinely known 5’5 men with average faces (and some fat!) who are in LTR/marriages with average/hot women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 11:10 PM
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Not to me it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:45 PM
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Why you guys do obsessed with FDS? Even if you don’t agree with it, just don’t read it. It’s not advecting rape/murder so chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:56 AM
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I get what you’re saying but I personally know short men who do way better then tall men in dating. I think it’s something that can be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:02 PM
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I know you don’t believe me (woman bad) but I meant generally, I personally don’t care and have liked men that were 5’5 not a problem but for some women they prefer men to be taller then them but not gaints like this sub pretends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:25 PM
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I mean, possibly. When you’re tall muscles look better, especially better then overly skinny which a lot of very tall Men are that I’ve seen. My point is height is pretty neutral, and taller isn’t always better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 11:23 PM
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Well obviously there’s a cut off in attractiveness in height, spot of men wouldn’t date a 4’0 woman. Most men are over 5’6 and the one who are shorter doesn’t stop them in dating, just limits them. And body positivity is pretty small in the world, never met a man who would date any woman regardless of looks. That’s stupid. Are women not allowed to have standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 08:21 PM
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I just can’t comprehend the obsession with height on here (and reddit as a whole). When I see a 6’3 man I think his height is slightly unattractive. It just makes them look skinny and lanky imo. Of course short is also bad (I will say being too tall is better then being too short) but if you’re 5’6 and over, height isn’t the reason you can’t get dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 07:29 PM
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It’s probably your best bet tbh, and if you don’t find anyone to date at least you had fun/made new friends :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/21 08:52 PM
2

If I was her friend I’d feel second best, like you wanted my friend but she rejected you so now you wanna try me. I think it’s best to stay away from dating within a friend group, just try someone else.
/r/seduction27/06/21 08:48 PM
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That’s what I said, you can date easier but finding a healthy, happy committed relationship/marriage isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 06:51 AM
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Attractive people in general have an easier time dating but it doesn’t increase their chances of a good, committed relationship IMO. I seen you described yourself as average/plain which is fine, you can focus on “improving” your looks but as patronising as it sounds I think improving your life/hobbies/social network would bring better results.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 03:55 AM
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You can’t be serious. What 20 year old would go near a 60 year old? Are you asking because you are the 60yr old trying to get a 20yr old?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/21 01:52 AM
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Romantic usually
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:07 PM
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Lol who stops loving someone because of something so insignificant? Don’t marry someone so shallow
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:06 AM
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I like hair. But of course I wouldn’t stop loving my husband if he went bald, who would?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 11:42 PM

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 06:15 PM

That’s what I mean, models are objectively attractive but doesn’t mean I or others want to date them etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 05:52 PM
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Exactly right. Some people like models are objectively attractive but doesn’t mean I personally think they look hot. Most people are average which means their looks are subjective on their personality/vibe/style etc
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/21 12:44 AM
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It must be hard dealing with lots of rejections just remember it’s not always a reflection on you some girls just don’t want a boyfriend.
/r/seduction17/06/21 09:45 PM
1

Haha, this.
/r/seduction17/06/21 09:44 PM
0

He is objectively attractive but a 9/10? That’s a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:58 PM
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To be happy and fulfilled without a man who brings no value to your life, or to find a hvm (which is different for every woman). I don’t agree with everything 100% but it’s refreshing to see a space on the internet (on reddit no less) that is unashamedly pro woman putting her needs ahead of others. I like the that FDS lists all the ways in which men use/abuse women and how to avoid that type of man of which there are plenty unfortunately. I think the core messages of confidence/independence and …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 11:50 PM
1

It really doesn’t matter nearly as much as personality/looks. The minimum I would date is 5’5 (my height).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 11:54 PM
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I’m sorry :(
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/21 11:05 AM
-1

You can just tell. They give you extra attention, look at you more etc. It’s pretty easy to see if someone is flirting or just being polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:44 PM
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I don’t think the social stigma of being a deadbeat dad is strong enough, it’s so common and accepted and those same men expect society to respect them and to have a wife/kids he actually looks after in the future. It really is disgusting how they botch about the mothers yet won’t lift a finger to actually care for their own kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 12:04 AM
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I’m starting to think it was a bad idea to put my photo in my profile as no one else seems to do it on Reddit. I understand why though people on the internet who can remain anonymous will say/do things they wouldn’t dream of on Instagram etc. As for OP post: I don’t even get what you’re saying. Are you saying FDS women are all ugly and fat? And you like/watch that Kevin Samuels guy? Even if every user was ugly/fat (not true) then ok? They still deserve respect and a good committed relationship. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/21 10:46 AM
1

Did she rape you or did you have unprotected sex knowing it could cause a pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 06:14 PM
0

I know that sucks but it’s just biology
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:41 PM
0

You are the dad. I don’t care if you don’t raise your child you are still a dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:41 PM
2

Me too! How can you have a relationship with someone so irresponsible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 05:40 PM
1

The world would be a better place if men didn’t have unprotected sex 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 03:04 PM
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Or don’t have sex without protection or without discussing children first. No one not even men agree with you guys sorry don’t complain when people bitch about deadbeat dads.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:43 PM
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If he doesn’t use a condom and there was no discussion about parenting before sex it is his problem. This will never change.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:40 PM
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Haha do you know how many single mothers there are with no payment from the farther? Idk about America but it’s common here so it’s legal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:39 PM
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It’s BOTH their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:38 PM
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No they are judged as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:09 PM
1

You didn’t answer my question though. Do you think it’s morally or legally right for a man to abandon his own kid? No straw man just a normal guy not using a condom and she is now pregnant and doesn’t want an abortion. You think no one should judge a man who runs away? Is that what you’re saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 02:08 PM
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Yes just google it it will come up. Do you think if a man doesn’t use a condom and she becomes pregnant he should be able to say not just problem and just leave? Let’s sats she’s “shitty” and refuses to abort? The child will suffer but that’s not his problem right? Forget legally is that morally ok to you that a man will allow his own child to suffer because he doesn’t care? I’m talking about him forget about the woman. It’s his own baby wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:33 PM
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Lol you know some women can’t get abortions right? Like medically. Then what? And there are plenty of countries that ban abortion. Look basically a man made the baby. He pays/supports his child. Or he doesn’t and we will look at him as a deadbeat dad. He doesn’t get to escape the consequences of his actions and if he tries to he is disgusting. Simple to most of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:11 PM
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No he needs to notify her before he has sex in that case as it’s too late by the time she’s pregnant maybe she isn’t able to get an abortion then what is she meant to do? Once a baby is conceived BOTH partners are responsible. Yes she has more choice as it’s HER body. Take it up with biology. Do you think society should pay for his child? No one irl will agree with that as it’s ridiculous- it’s HIS child. Sorry next time use a condom (sorry if you’re in the 2% that condoms fail). Life isn’t tota…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:04 PM
1

With sperm doners don’t both party’s agree to have 1 parent raise the child only? Like a couple/or single woman needs sperm and a man gives it under requirements he is not being an active parent? If there is an agreement before sex that the woman wants a child and is able to raise it single handed and she/he agrees to not have any contact forever then I guess that’s fine and the child would presumably have a parent who can afford to raise them and they have a stable family upbringing (otherwise …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:17 PM
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I can’t understand how these men could just shrug and say oh well not my problem about their own child struggling in poverty. I seriously don’t get it. I don’t care about your feeling towards the mother, you (most likely) decided to not use a condom/ensure birth control was used. It’s 50% your problem. And how will you explain this to your future wife/child if you have any? You think any well adjusted woman would be ok with you abandoning your child/their child’s sibling? Be a man and deal with …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 11:30 AM
1

Oh well you’ll soon be a doctor so sounds like things will be fine for you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 01:23 AM
2

Wouldn’t affect me at all but it’s be a violation of our freedoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 12:33 AM
1

It’s strange how you’re making a judgement about me based on nothing. I’ve explained before I think ugly men are kinda hot (what society deems unattractive) but I’ve learned they often neg women and take out their insecurities on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:22 PM
1

But I prefer uglier men. Seriously. Maybe it is subconsciously because I thought they’d treat me better but in my experience they often treat you very bad and are just as judgemental about your looks even if they are below average. So now I don’t “seek” out uglier men I just go by how they treat me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:20 PM
1

Who told you I’m a liberal?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:18 PM
1

That’s kinda surprising I didn’t think it’s be that bad over there. Do you ever want to come back to the Uk?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 11:17 PM
1

Haha I have no comeback 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 02:58 PM
2

They have no arguments left so just respond with a general insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:09 PM
1

I’m saying doing different things are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:28 AM
4

Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/21 12:27 AM
1

Is it really that bad for Asian men in usa? I live in Britain and there are tons of Asian men who get girls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:51 PM
1

Preach.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:49 PM
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I’ve said it before but if any woman thinks an unattractive man will appreciate her they will be in for a shock. They definitely treat you as bad or worse then hot guys, so why not pick an attractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:46 PM
3

And the average man is great, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:28 PM
1

That’s like saying it’s the same thing if someone went to jail for smoking weed then if they went to jail for murder. Yeah the jail is the same but most people will recognise the difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:26 PM
2

Sometimes I do. If I reject him I worry he could totally flip which unfortunately isn’t uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:22 PM
1

Yeah of course. If he will only date a woman who pays for him on a date, good luck to him. It will be hard to find but it’s his standards. And as long as he isn’t abusive he can have certain ideas on make and females roles what he can’t do is shame and bitch about women who refuse this like the OP is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 11:18 PM
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Some do, others don’t. People are individuals you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:35 PM
2

Yeah maybe Edit: women don’t value you I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:35 PM
7

Ok so both genders put up with things they don’t like to please the opposite sex. So what? Either do it and stop complaining or don’t do and find a woman who thinks like you. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:18 PM
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It isn’t in just bored at work. Most of my dates have been us going Dutch. I personally don’t refuse to date men who don’t pay on first dates but it’s so hypocritical when “red pill” or whatever guys here are are so mad about buying a women a £20 chicken dinner. It just shows how they don’t value women and want sex without any effort on their part. If anything this sub helps me see the red flags and avoid men who think like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:16 PM
2

Haha why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:14 PM
12

Do you think a man is entitled if he expects her to shave when he won’t? Do you think he is cheap when he expects her to do more housework? Do you think he is cheap when he expects her to pay money to put on makeup/hairdressers when he doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 05:01 PM
14

I’m saying a man paying on a date and courting a woman is traditional and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:56 PM
8

There’s double standards in relationships all the time, I don’t see you complain about women having to shave their body when men don’t. And no, most men don’t think like you. Some do, and they get with women who agree with them and the others go out with the men who like being traditional. Sounds fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:54 PM
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I think you know women put more effort in other ways, like clothes/make up etc. I would seriously agree with you guys on this issue if you wanted true equality. As in, men don’t pay on first dates but women shouldn’t have to put extra effort into their looks, act feminine if they don’t want to, shave their legs, do traditional female roles. If you want all that then I totally agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:52 PM
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Yeah sure, you can think that too. She can say I want a traditional man who pays on a date. You can say I want a Morden woman who goes Dutch. Both are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:50 PM
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Why is she not entitled to her standards and you are? Some women think men who want sex before marriage are deviants bit I think if a man doesn’t want to wait, fine just break it up and move on. Just because YOU think it’s entitlement doesn’t mean others do, finding comparability is hard in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 04:34 PM
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You have every right to not pay for your date. And your date has every right to think your cheap and not continue to date you. Both are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/21 03:56 PM
1

Yeah but that just proves a lot or a little sexual partners is subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 06:13 PM
3

It’s 100% only online/ppd men. It’s laughable how ignorant some people can be to normal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:43 PM
3

Yes you are totally correct. I’ve met quite a few men with this mindset that women should be virgins but they are always predatory and view women as objects. They also enjoy casual sex but view women as good I.e virgins or bad I.e sluts who aren’t virgins. I would always avoid these types of men and encourage all women too avoid them if they want respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:41 PM
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Then why do I see every post here saying men only want virgins or as low as possible. I don’t hear men in ppd saying they don’t care if their wife/girl friends had partners before as long as it’s not hugely excessive like 50. I mean of course, a lot of men and women won’t want a partner who had a huge amount of sexual partners that’s a red flag but like 10? Who the hell cares (expect many posters here).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:37 PM
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Things suck for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:12 PM
1

I think that’s the problem with these debates, it’s all so subjective but I guess it’s boring to just say everyone’s different and that’s fine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:12 PM
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There’s lots of good responses in this thread but this is my favourite. I think men do understand why women don’t approach they just don’t want to put in effort/too shy/risk rejection which I do understand but ya know, sometimes things aren’t totally fair and as a women don’t I know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:59 PM
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I would never approach a man but most women will show signs that they’re interested and unless he is incredibly shy/can’t pick up social cues they will get it. If they want to then approach, we can talk flirt etc. Then date. That’s just how social norms are in most places. Sure some women go against this but I can’t see the motive myself, if he’s interested why not approach himself? And I don’t like shy men so it’d put me off personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:56 PM
2

Trust me I’ve met tons. Especially if you go to big cities which are more progressive less people care about “purity” and how women should use their own bodies. And no straw men of no men want a hooker/1,500 previous partners I mean most men won’t care if a 25 year old has slept with 2 guys or 6. It’s not that defining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:44 PM
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Oh trust me I’ve been an observer of men talk for years. I am not a man, correct. But if I talk to 5 different men now I’ll have 5 different answers to “what men want/what counts as low count etc”. I’m saying men aren’t a monicloth especially in countries with free choice like the west, maybe in Saudi etc. You can find most men prefer a virgin but that’s due to culture/religion but the west? Come on now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:41 PM
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I just.....you must be very young or under-socialised if you believe “men” think this way. Look the older you get the more you see life isn’t black and white it’s grey. So no to answer your question men do not all like virgin/very low count women especially men who are secure, confident and happy don’t. Some men like “good girls” some men like “bad bitches”. So women don’t worry about what the guys here say about all men only desire young virgins, go out and talk to a couple and you’ll see how d…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 03:27 PM
1

What world do you people live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 11:55 AM
1

Please don’t use red pill logic it’s honestly so false. I know plenty of girls who like “good” guys and way more men who love (yes marry) “sluts”.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:57 PM
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I just don’t place high emphasis on sexual experiences like you guys do, I’d rather look at his personality, goals, looks etc then how many girls he’s been out with but that’s just me maybe to some people sex is everything
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:00 PM
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Can virgins only have sex with other virgins? And if he’s an old virgin why isn’t there other old virgins he can find? Sure it’s hard but I’d rather go out with someone with a good personality my own age who had a girlfriend before then a young boy just because he’s a virgin. Sorry, still think it’s weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 10:58 PM
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Why doesn’t he go for a woman his own age?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 02:47 PM
1

Me too. Good luck :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:16 PM
2

They are so delusional it really is embarrassing. I’ve seen older men “flirt” with young girls and it disgusts me, why would I want such a man for myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 01:13 PM
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I’ve experienced/seen it too. It honestly sickens me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:37 PM
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If a young, inexperienced virgin man would prefer the same sort of woman (around his own age) to feel more comfortable then yes, that’s not creepy but to demand it, or look down on more experienced women is unacceptable. That’s the type of men being discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 12:36 PM
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Oh yeah that’s one of the reasons too, those guys tend to be abusive/resentful towards women’s too.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:30 AM
3

This. Right here guys, this is it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:17 AM
1

I think it’s too difficult to rate yourself, I’ve been called attractive/ugly depending on the person. But like others have said, attraction (for women) is not about objective beauty but it’s more an attraction to that man. I’ve been attracted to men who others called fat, short, ugly with a shot personality but I thought was so hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:16 AM
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I think men who prefer young, virginal and meek women usually have an underlying reason that is not good for the woman. Either he’s abusive, manipulative looking for an inexperienced woman, an insecure inexperienced older man who doesn’t want to put in the effort to improve himself so chooses someone young with no prior experience. Or he sees women as property of men, that women should be “pure” and young to please men (these are usually the religious/developing county men). Basically these girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/21 11:04 AM
0

It’s actually helped me. I see “red pill” tactics irl and even if they aren’t incel/red pill I can see what they’re trying to do and just avoid them and feel pity instead of internalising it. For example this short fat guy tried to “neg” me awhile back and it was almost classic red pill that I knew he was a loser and moved on.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 08:42 PM
1

I actually agree with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/21 07:43 PM
1

Maybe it’s an American thing? I haven’t seen it in my country before
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 11:22 AM
1

I don’t believe you are a woman. I think your account is a male Redditor masquerading as a woman. That’s all I have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 02:53 AM
2

Thank you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:46 AM
2

Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 01:46 AM
2

It’s a very awkward conversation to have during sex with a new partner and shouldn’t a man know most women can’t cum through sex and he has to actually engage in foreplay? Idk some don’t know and are willing to learn but some just don’t care about a women’s pleasure
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:30 AM
3

What’s male redditors problem with Amy schumer? I mean I know why but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:22 AM
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This. The hottest men I’ve seen are single and the ugliest are married/in ltr.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:09 AM
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It’s actually hilarious/scary to see just how delusional those statements are. I think it’s to make themselves feel better but how can you be so blind to the world around you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:07 AM
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Both men and women are vital. You can’t have one without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 12:04 AM
1

But we still live in a society of gender roles, men “should” be tall (er), strong and women skinny/weak. Why would this be any different? Feminism really hasn’t changed everything you know
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 09:33 PM
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I’ve never even heard shy woman say she likes talk guys. Of course most women don’t want someone shorter but this whole “must be 6’2” thing red pill guys go on about is so far from anything I’ve ever heard irl
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 07:03 PM
1

Oh ok
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 08:33 PM
1

Buy you don’t even know me, or are all women the same to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:21 PM
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Exactly. I think this normalisation of treating women as a lower class of human is prevalent everywhere, so boys grow up thinking it’s normal and so do women. I mean look at the stats of men abusing/raping/murdering women and then compare it to women doing the same to men. It’s just so ingrained and if you talk about it you’re a “man hater”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:49 AM
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Not that I’ve seen. I know these is plenty of shitty women out there that will use men but i don’t think it’s on the same scale as men (maybe unconsciously) believing they are entitled to women’s bodies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:46 AM
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I think you’re right. I think society/media pushes men/boys to believe they deserve attractive, fit supportive women when they themselves are average/below average. Isn’t there a saying that goes “I wish I had as much confidence as a mediocre white man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:33 AM
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I don’t understand what you’re trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:30 AM
-1

They believe they entitled to women’s bodies it’s super gross and I want to know why so many men grow up thinking women are here to fuck them/serve them and if they don’t it’s this huge life shattering revaluation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:23 AM
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Me too. I read it when I’m bored as light entertainment but it can sometimes be a good idea to take a break from the hatred and vitriol aimed at “females”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:57 AM
1

Bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:53 AM
1

Morals - a man who will stand up for his morals even when it’s hard. Hardworking Trustworthy - no liars/cheats. Funny/smart
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:51 AM
2

I mean yeah you’re kinda right, the men here want to have the “advantages” of women like being courted/sexually desired but they also want to keep their male privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:48 AM
1

...ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 12:18 AM
1

Lol what woman would want a man with that mindset though it’s so gross to us it’s as bad as gold diggers are to you trp guys. At the end of the day gender norms exist. Follow them or don’t it’s up to you but some people might disagree with you and not date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:05 PM
1

I don’t think that’s correct but let’s agree to disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 11:03 PM
1

It’s just not my personal experience maybe it’s yours and that’s fine but I think as long as you sun for average girls most men have date them idk
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:30 PM
1

Hot people have sex with hot people and ugly with ugly. And who cares about casual sex you should look at relationships and theses plenty of short ugly men with women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 03:56 PM
1

Everything can’t be 100% equal of course but it can be much better then it currently is. I see the harm sexism/gender roles plays on both men and women, and both complain about it but I think it’s very slowly improving now so maybe in my grandchildren’s time they’ll look back and gasp at how things were now just like we do about the past
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:11 PM
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Lol why do men believe this? It’s not what I’ve seen in my life let’s put it that way. I don’t mean to be rude but maybe you’ve been brainwashed by the “manosphere”? Because real life isn’t black/white it’s grey.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:08 PM
0

Sexism effects men also that’s why. All these complaints men make about being shamed for being a stay at home dad, for not making enough money, women getting more lenient sentences for crimes etc all boils down to sexism. Women are weak, caring/need looking after. Men are strong/protectors. I definitely think we need to move past these outdated norms but who knows if we ever will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:33 PM
1

Come on, women don’t use men for sex so it’s not vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:29 PM
1

Men are usually the breadwinner although it is slowly changing I believe. That’s the thing with kids, I think they really should be the responsibility of both parents equally but society sees child rearing as a women’s job and men just need to work/spend a few hours with their kid and he’s great but it’s really all on the women’s shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:27 PM
2

I think that’s what trp guys leave out when discussing men paying on a date, it’s traditional but they don’t wanna pay so they act like they are above such rigid gender roles and they believe in equality but it’s all lies as they expect women to act their part. I don’t see them saying how unfair it is that women do the majority of housework even when both work, or women don’t have orgasims as much as men, or women have to spend more time/money on their appearance. They expect women to play their…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:24 PM
2

This. It’s taken me awhile to realise ugly men are as bad or WORSE then hot guys. I’ve seen/experienced so many unattractive men put women down for their looks/treat them badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:39 AM
1

Haha no. Well I’ve never seen it. I actually think women are more likely to help you if you’re being verbally attacked by a man/harassed etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:28 AM
5

These guys only care about having sex so that’s all they can read from your comment
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:24 AM
5

I always offer but unless we’re both students/teenagers it would be better if he paid to be honest, it’s not a dealbreaker but it shows he’s interested and appreciates my time. Especially if he also expects me to do traditional female things like shaving/acting in a “feminine” way otherwise it’s hypocritical to only want me to behave in traditional gender roles and he won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:21 AM
2

Men here just don’t value women. That’s literally it. They see no reason to listen to them/befriend them unless they get sex from them. Super gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:11 AM
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I know this sub is anti woman but idk how anyone can deny women are expected to give up her life to support her husband/kids whereas a man just gets an assistant to help around the house/have his kids. It’s not always the case but it’s so frequent that it explains why women divorce men more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:10 AM
4

I used to think that way also until I realised marriage is a safety net for both people so if you decide to have kids and one person stays at home they aren’t totally stuck if they divorce as it’s so risky as you’re giving up your life for you family
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:07 AM
2

That’s me experience too, which is why it’s usually older women who are disproving of age gap relationships because we’ve been through them and understand the motivations of the (usual) man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/21 12:12 PM
0

Lol you’re right, I need to leave it’s so addicting to read this crap but it does rot your brain. Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 12:15 AM
1

:(
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:58 PM
-1

Why would women want to harassed? It’s like when white people start talking about racism towards them being comparable to racism to other races. Why you gotta be the victim? Lol idk it’s strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:58 PM
0

It’s honestly sad you think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:50 PM
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It’s what is meant by toxic masculinity you know the thing you guys don’t believe is real
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:49 PM
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Feminising men, what utter crap. You mean men sexually harassing women is no longer acceptable, oh no. Idk why I use this sub it’s just stupid post after stupid post with a few funny/insightful ones. I guess it’s entertaining though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 11:26 PM
5

RP men are ill mannered to all women. I believe it comes from insecurity, it would be sad if they didn’t treat women like lesser humans which makes it hard to pity them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 10:49 PM
1

Lol well I read/seen it happen with men 1000s of times so I guess 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:46 PM
4

Yeah no sure, men don’t get bored and ignore/cheat on their girlfriends, she must’ve done something wrong to him first. These bitches right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:45 PM
4

Lol she’s wrong for being one woman and not allowing him to chase other girls like he wants
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:14 PM
1

Yes of course
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 10:12 PM
5

You make me sad :( pls get help
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:24 PM
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No I think men do but they often won’t leave instead they cheat/ignore their girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 09:23 PM
1

I guess this is a problem for young people? Like anyone over 25 who thinks social media is anyway real is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:47 PM
2

I don’t think you should be able to marry more then 1 person but if we allow it for men then we should allow it for women too
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:46 PM
1

For relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:45 PM
1

Lol ok then, this sub is strange
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 12:12 AM
1

No I’m pretty sure I’m too old for you anyway you look young
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 11:07 PM
1

I think unless it’s very small then it’s a non issue, but ofc bigger is usually better for a lot of women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:55 PM
0

You look normal, are you a mgtow/red pill guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:52 PM
2

I’m with you on that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:50 PM
2

Never been sent one thank god
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:49 PM
2

I mean it kinda does? It’s like asking a guy about a women’s body, to some it’s a dealbreaker bit to a lot it doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 10:49 PM
1

Er women are also ignored you know why can’t you men here accept it works both ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:40 PM
1

Lots of men are simply lazy in bed and a lot of you do girls are socialised to think sex is over when he cums it’s sad really
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:36 PM
1

Yeah men will often have sex with anyone that’s why you should make sure he’s putting in a lot of effort/time with you specifically unless you also will sleep with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:35 PM
3

Sounds great, there’s lots of countries that allow 2 wives so I’m all for equality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 07:34 PM
1

They can’t control women if they want nothing from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:34 PM
3

It does if you don’t already have some sort of relationship before hand ie meeting on OLD then of course, what else do you have to go on? But if you are already friends then personality is at least as important as looks. I see here lots of men say they are shocked women care about men’s looks and they were told women aren’t shallow which is so strange to me, I knew from a young age looks mean a lot for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:33 PM
3

HVW/HVM are at least a bit subjective, I know lots of guys who would consider a meek, domestic women LV, it depends on what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:14 PM
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I don’t get what you mean, everyone uses social media and everyone knows it’s fake. Do you mean women want a “high” standard of man due to insta etc? If you go after “normal” girls and not social media influencers/very hot girls that won’t be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/21 06:11 PM
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