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| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meI never said it's a scientific theory and neither did Rollo. I will repeat it one last time because you seem to completely misunderstand the point that I have now tried to make multiple times: Red pill ideas are based on human (especially female) psychology, of which loss aversion is only one example. At its whole the red pill is a praxeology, meaning it offers you explanations for certain behaviors and possible ways to deal with it. It's neither a science nor some strict guideline. It could ver… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/08/24 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meFinally. Since you conceded some of my points, this discussion makes sense. Women are high in trait neuroticism and agreeableness for the very reason that evolutionarily speaking, their job is to care for their offspring. It is not their primary job to care for their partner. This is reflected in their behavioral schemata and their way of thinking, measured across large swathes of the population. On the other hand, it's men's primary job to provide for and protect their family. This is why there… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 06:02 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meEvery communication is manipulation. Even now, you are trying to manipulate me to see things your way, and I am doing the same. AWALT: said nowhere in the red pill. you're talking about MGTOW maybe Alpha/Beta: basic ways how women can see men (can, but don't have to). there can be one of the two, none of the two, or both. it's a versatile concept and just a general guideline. if she gets the feeling that she owns you and you're pathetic, you're seen as "beta". if she sees you have self-respect a… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 02:10 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meI'm engaging with you and other people in a discussion. I am unsure how that would be antisocial behavior. Yet again, another personal attack instead of an argument. Then, more of your opinions. "Red Pill is a grab bag of ugly mind games." Interesting framing "ugly" and "mind games". In that same way you could say that a steak knife is an ugly murder weapon. Hardly a productive point for a discussion - indeed, rather something you use to shut down a discussion. Clearly you should monitor your ow… | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meOk so basically you're saying my opinion is wrong and your opinion is correct. And your basis for that is somebody else shares your opinion. That's not an argument. | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meLook, I really don't care about the PTSD point and I never did. It's just something Rollo said, it's in no way foundational for any red pill ideas. It will be notoriously hard to prove and any discussion on data on it is completely futile, as is with many new claims pertaining to psychology. Like you said it's not an exact science. I don't know, frankly, how you can say that and then post studies, acting as if it were an exact science. Apparently it's an exact science only when it suits you. If … | /r/ExRedPill | 16/08/24 08:47 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meJust posted one, though I did it via edit. Just FYI, in discussions about science it's not usual to "link studies" for basic principles that have been known for decades and aren't even controversial (e.g. dread or frame). No offense but you lack the basic understanding of human psychology that would give you the ability to see the red pill from a comprehensive viewpoint. Currently you're just cherry-picking one study (that isn't even really reliable by itself) and throwing a whole paradigm under… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meThe red pill, at its bare bones, is a tool for understanding contemporary psychology. You can certainly make red pill into a theology and an ideology as well. But that would be foolish, because then you lose the ability to learn. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 05:00 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meThe Red Queen is a mainstream book. But it's fine to make some weird accusation because in this way, you don't have to actually argue a point. | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meYeah wow you posted one source. Crazy. Go read a book on psychology like Algorithms to Live By. Just because you don't think dread works on your wife doesn't negate decades of psychology research. Oh no Rollo said something that isn't the result of the study you posted. Clearly all of the red pill ideas must be wrong. Dread works on people, just as well as frame does. Again, it's basic human psychology. Just because you're too lazy to read more than one study that proves your bias doesn't mean y… | /r/ExRedPill | 15/08/24 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meThen you haven't done a very good job at reading, otherwise you would have plenty of evidence to back up their claims. Most of what is encompassed in red pill ideas isn't even evolutionary psychology, it's just normal psychology. Red pill is only the praxeology of using these insights in particular with women. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/08/24 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meDude I told you, evolutionary biology. All of these ideas are different but yes, they are in the same bucket. Yes there are cultural effects like big butts. It's easy to identify those from a scientific standpoint. Doesn't refute anything. It's known and not controversial. I have no idea why this is so controversial with you. I'll repeat it in caps so maybe you understand. DREAD WORKS WITH ALL HUMANS. The reason for this is that humans are more loss averse than we are gain focused. Rollo just fo… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/08/24 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meI read your first link and it literally mentioned the point that I told you. I can't make it any clearer. Quote: "PTSD may be diagnosed more in women in part because of the criteria used to define it. Cognitive and emotional responses to traumatic events make a diagnosis of PTSD more likely. So even though men may experience more traumas, they don't seem to have the same emotional responses to traumatic events," said Tolin and Foa. It's about the emotional responses that you diagnose, which does… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | DivorceObviously I'm going to blame women for their behavior. Just like I'd blame a guy who cheats on his wife for his behavior. What I'll do about it? I will make a good life for my own sake and not give a sh*t about what the woman wants or needs, because it's never going to be good enough for her anyway. | /r/MarriedRedPill | 10/08/24 08:35 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meYour data really doesn't refute Rollo's point. Women are naturally higher in trait neuroticism, so it is questionable whether diagnosis criteria for PTSD should even be the same for women and men. Also, it doesn't really matter what the underlying diagnosis is. It's a basic fact of life that in almost all cases, after a breakup, it will take the woman mere weeks (if that) to find a new guy, whereas the man may take years to find a new partner. Whether that is then perceived by the woman as a goo… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/08/24 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meWomen move on from relationship trauma a lot faster than men do. Other areas may be a different story. But we are talking about relationships here. And this is most definitely true, and yes, it has an evolutionary basis in that when her man dies, she can't waste her youth not having children just because of the trauma. And yes, we see that mirrored in the modern world, and it's not less true just because you personally haven't experienced it. The thing with dread is not only perfectly true and r… | /r/ExRedPill | 09/08/24 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling methat's why it's a praxeology and not an ideology. because it can change according to the observations. if the whole of western society became christian overnight and developed morals once again, the entire red pill paradigm would change. also most red pill concepts are just basic human biology. to say that they are bunk is just like saying men don't like big boobs or women don't like fit men. it's just biology | /r/ExRedPill | 09/08/24 02:36 PM |
| 2 | DivorceThanks for your elaborate reply. Sounds like you used that lemon to make lemonade. Respect man, good on you for using that experience for maximum growth. I still think it's ridiculous that a man has to be absolutely perfect and see every sign, otherwise he may just be cheated on. It's like you have to constantly work on yourself and on your life, and then also take on the responsibility for the family and the relationship. Then what's the use of the woman really, if she can't even help you grow … | /r/MarriedRedPill | 09/08/24 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling menever read more nonsense. redpill is a praxeology, meaning a set of observations about female behavior, that you can do with whatever you want. you can use it to be a good husband or you can use it to sleep with many different women. the red pill doesn't tell you to do one or the other. it's not an ideology, neither is it a theology | /r/ExRedPill | 09/08/24 02:25 PM |
| 2 | DivorceGreat story with a lot of important lessons. At the danger of sounding naive, I do think that being a good earner, good father and being in good physical shape should be enough for a woman to be happy with you long term. Yes I know, red pill and all. But with 3 children and a quality husband it really takes an ungrateful little sh*t to suddenly start going out partying again and getting super drunk. I agree that mistakes were made and lessons were (or should be) learned but I'd also like to lame… | /r/MarriedRedPill | 07/08/24 07:15 AM |
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