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Having a social circle, while valuable for many of it’s own merits, is just another metric with which women evaluate men. It’s quite likely you are disqualified for having an insufficient one as having one leads to more connections. Social circles require ongoing investment, time which men can spend in a variety of ways. But having one is also another hurdle to jump over. Or you are branded a loser
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/23 10:26 AM
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You can think you’re great, be great, and women will still not want to be with you. They aren’t some divine force that recognizes greatness and adores it. They are human animals that succumb to base motivations. Doesn’t negate the fact it’s up to men to adhere to principles and commit to themselves but it’s hardly a pathway to female success
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:46 PM
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They are both barriers to entry
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 07:31 PM
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She wrote He did text her after. then probably once he got a response, ghosted
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/01/22 08:06 PM
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One thing I’ve noticed is the wider the gap in overall desirability the less the effort exerted by the more desirable party. So yeah the wall and all that but she hasn’t adjusted her expectations downward in concert so now the caliber of men she is still seeking will put less effort. I notice when I’m excited about a chick I put in much more effort
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/11/21 05:08 PM
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Looks for sure. You develop frame just by living your life and the challenges it presents. Looks on the other hand are largely predetermined
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:28 AM
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All YOU have to do is be nice, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/21 03:41 PM
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They’re not happy until we’re not happy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 06:34 PM
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Wow, that escalated quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 06:52 PM
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Yup. Dalrock wrote an article on this about how the vagina has been elevated to a sort of "divining rod". Women believe it's a moral/character fault for men's failings, which justifies their indifferent attitude. when the fact of the matter is it's almost invariably a result of poor genetics or repeated beatdowns in attempts to ascertain it (getting laid).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 09:14 PM
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Who's lying? I'm saying the inequality is growing in this dimension just like in the wealth gap between the lowest and highest earners. Men, as a demographic, are getting beaten badly by the newfangled arrangements emerging over the past decade(s). Some fortunate few men are reaping the benefits massively, we know this from direct experience, what the preponderance of data suggests, and heresay. It's not black and white but a gradient. Some women are not reinforcing these changes and are opting …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 06:11 PM
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The focus is on the line of scrimmage. It has moved quite drastically in favor of women's prerogatives at the expense of men's. If you were losing significant ground in a short period of time you would start to panic too. Women have no comprehension of (or sympathy towards) the feeling of dread coming over men whom are on/behind the line of scrimmage. Instead we hear quite the opposite from women on this forum, a sort of righteous indignation. My only response is: Of course the bubble is fun on …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 03:37 PM
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Very eloquently said. Interesting how targeted language/catchphrases reconstructs the narrative almost like magic. Compromise vs. Oppression subtle but massively different. It's like turning off a lightbulb and when turning it back on you're in a different room. People are so damn gullible when push comes to shove, all it takes is rearranging a few words on a screen or in a book or magazine.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/21 05:20 AM
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I had an android instead of iphone
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:35 PM
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That may be true for you, but still the vast majority of women that prioritize personality over looks are likely be attracted to a much broader proportion of available men. Perhaps liking 5 guys in 30 years is because you have some maturing to do to see outside your bubble. There are a lot of delicious candy bars on the shelf not just reese's pieces or whatever. You could be attracted to a wide(r) array of personalities if you opened up. Just sayin. Secondly, People with the sniper approach to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 03:16 AM
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Yes, the problem she's having is because screening for apex male characteristics is not enough, you need to double down and ALSO screen for personality factors that demonstrate Chad see's you as a special angel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:10 PM
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Someone needs to make a movie about this to wake people up
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 03:06 PM
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I get where you're going here. Just had an experience where I left an attractive woman because of the personality factors made it impossible to enjoy her presence. I was reluctant because as a guy sometimes just looking at a pretty face is enough. In the long run however, she needs to atleast be able to hold a conversation. Part of women's entitlement is this notion of them being entertained, which translates into the guy carrying almost all the burden in making the conversation interesting, fun…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:49 PM
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I want to agree with you but the point is perceived value is closer to your true value than the hypothetical value you would hold in a more favorable market. When you move there, then that's your value. Many Men cannot afford to move, those that can increase their value. Because it's rare for men to move abroad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:41 PM
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Above. Well above. He's playing an elite fighter pilot in the upcoming Maverick movie. He was cast as a pro boxer. Point is those roles require men that have the look.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 04:46 AM
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Miles teller is not average wtf are you smoking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 02:37 AM
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I agree with your premise in general
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 10:12 PM
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It benfits them the same way a callous on your feet makes it less painful to walk on rocky terrain. In the same way a dollar invested in the stock market grows through compounding over time. It benefits men by teaching them a very painful lesson about the nature of their predicament and one that can eventually allow a man to act autonomously - an adaptation sure but nothing to glorify. It doesn't benefit society, family, children, traditionally minded women etc. It forces mass adoption of the se…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 06:42 PM
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That's cause you haven't been on the losing end of a seduction attempt. There is always another guy angling for her. We noticed from a young age that men with these cues more often than not were the winners at our expense. Being good isn't enough. Being good and handsome is better. Being bad and handsome is the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 12:51 PM
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A bad boy is an archetype, a guy with superior genetics, low time preference, low inhibition, and a general disregard for social customs. Women swoon over this combo because he demonstrates in the most potent way possible he transcends society, and can offer them excitement, and an escape from their own mundane lives. No normal guy on a route to long term sucess can afford such a risky way of life because it would totally jeopardize his future. Even if he tried, his personality would be complete…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/21 01:03 AM
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Heterosexual Male - Female platonic friendships are not inherently stable - they are like an ion looking to become an isotope. Friendships will take one of three directions to a more stable state - 1) Relationship, 2) Friend-zoning 3) FWB. Friendzoning is not true friendship because of the nascent unrequited love flowing from one person to the next. A FWB is arguably the only true stable friendship between men and women and that is a minefield unto itself. I agree it can exist for short duration…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/21 04:33 PM
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*standing ovation*
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/21 07:13 PM
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Pack it up boys, case closed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/21 06:06 PM
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Brilliant comment 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 11:14 PM
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This emotion first approach works if you're perpetually numbed on anti despressants and immune to the school of hard knocks. Most of us are thrown into this tournament of mating and fighting for a chance at something great. You're downplaying the degree to which suffering , loss and defeat enter the equation. But life is teaching us little by little. Dating/love is a dojo a lot more than it's a warm cup of tea by the fire. I Frankly wish it were as tame you suggest where everyone gets there need…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/21 04:44 AM
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If you resign yourself to needing to succeed in the act of getting laid with every hot woman you interact with then you're inevitably going to adopt the frame of mind - what works best? Perhaps a huge percantage of physically diserable women do prefer dark triad traits - does that mean you as a man must concede to the awful state of affairs. You bemoan it while still enabling it which is why you are incongruent. Women will never be exactly what we want them to be - being hot and worshipping us. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/21 10:45 PM
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It's not ideal but it's an effective strategy. Have a smaller dick also sucks, but if you're an attentive lover it can make up for it. RP makes the mistake of assigning bogeyman chad as the litmus test of all female choice. In reality an infinitesimally small men fit this discription and the rest of us use the hand we were dealt
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/21 02:26 AM
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With each passing year above 27 or so, the "quality" of the guy willing to wife her up gets lower and lower. Most decent looking women will always be able to get NSA sex from regular or even attractive men in their age range. But as we get older the likelihood of them getting the whole 9 yards from a guy decreases substantially. However because of randomness in the dating market, they may encounter higher quality guys at a later age than younger (say 31 instead of 27) But he's likely still lower…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/21 07:34 AM
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Hey man, not everyone has a crazy dichotomy going on in their arousal. People aren't a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 04:27 PM
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I'd say that women can cope better without men, than vice versa, in the adversarial environment we find ourselves in. Consumerism is an answer to many of women's needs and is divorced of any specific man's contribution to her life. However at the end of the day they need a man if they want to thrive - have a family, psychological stability, and to piggy back on his sense of purpose and perhaps even his spiritual insight. Our conditioning devalues these aspects of male love - because they can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:43 PM
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True. They will never admit how men are like a psychological tonic to them, but it is true. I've had women tell me semen calms them down ffs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:39 PM
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This a painfully subjective take. You happen to find the female form more appealing and you are extrapolating that way beyond reasonable bounds. It's as if you were an artist who prefers to paint females. I'm a straight man, and I see many handsome people of both sexes around me. As others have said, give 'em a shower and strip them down to their birthday suit and then be the judge. It's about equal. Women are so highly adorned and accentuated by fashion, and MAKEUP and hairstyling it's impossib…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:23 PM
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The female body looks fine without muscle, so women can maintain a nice figure with very low input and a little dietary restraint. the male body needs to be forged under intense labor to reach it's aesthetic potential. Men have it harder in almost every way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/21 03:07 PM
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I was sincere.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 04:58 AM
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I don't disagree with the OP premise, but you have to pick your poison. Be born with little and endure much (most men) or be born with much but be at the mercy of much (most women). I do think men can punch upwards and that being a truly ugly woman would be the least ideal position. I think you also overexaggerate how much men look at women like mannequin bangmaids. We understand there is a living breathing person there but unfortunately their seems be be a prerequisite to be able to cherish it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 08:59 PM
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Wow thank you for that wrecking ball of righteous brazen honesty. I felt this in my core.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:51 PM
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If we can't get a hard-on for a 3, sex cannot happen. There isn't anything else to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:32 PM
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I was alluding to a notion that men are the one's nature experiments with for better or worse, and we are diaposable. Of course I believe women are in stiff competition - but there is a cushion there that is lacking in the male version. I'm refering to the mating market here not the whole of society. Women are valued sexually for their looks yes, but socially for many more things above and beyond that. I think their misery atleast partly stems from an innate drive to maximize pleasure and social…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 07:19 PM
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True. Nature is pressure cooker for men, in regards to the mating game. Men are constantly being outpaced by competition while women enjoy a degree of insulation from the harsh arms race. Of course they have their own inertia towards misery but nothing like men's rites of passage which requires a direct confrontation with our own deficiencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:14 PM
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Men have to get hard in order to bang. It doesn't take a supermodel but we simply cannot get it up for some women. It's not a bad thing, Men's biggest advantage is the fact we're attracted to a wider cohort.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 05:58 PM
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Pilot?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 06:08 AM
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They are inverting reality. Chad is now the nice guy and the nice guy is the manipulator.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/21 06:52 PM
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You admitted yourself his looks got him a ton of matches, most of us are not so fortunate - even if we are decent looking, the "x-factor" women seek in superficial way is just rare. How are we supposed to woo women with our other intrinsic characteristics if we can't even get a foot in the door? BTW I'm not lashing out just providing a perspective from a more average-above avg guy. Your friends bf's likely stumbled into a relationship through dumb luck and bluepill naivete - which ironically pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 08:59 PM
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I never modeled, like most normal men. Women are tightening the screws inordinately to a "must be this tall to ride" type of screening. yet cannot see why men are checking out or getting super flustered. Your bf is literally in the top 5 percent of men and yet your advice to me is "sell yourself better". It's disingenuous. I don't fault you but consider the the consequences writ large when a preponderance of women believe it's simply a matter of better marketing, when you are literally only ente…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 08:28 PM
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I'm 6'0 , about a 7 facially, have a 6 figure income, masculine job with status (airline captain) been to almost every continent in the world, amatuer chef, exercise daily. You'd still swipe left. How do I know this? Because I only match with hideous girls, but have been told IRL by attractive women about where I stand. OLD is fucking up the world, badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/21 07:53 PM
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You could say girls like A,B,C,X,Y,Z traits *only* from men they find attractive and it reveals perfectly their prerogative. Women sort men as either either invisible and disposable, which no amount of personality can make up for, or as desirable, and for whom any positive trait is perceived as a bonus. It is a very brutal sorting system that rejects far too many men. Men's sorting system, while not perfect, is much more fair and balanced, which is why it was the agreed upon system for hundreds …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 06:19 AM
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Ahh yes the elusive male unicorn. Shallow thinking here, it is fortune and women's positive reinforcement that create the unicorn. Meanwhile the "lonely horny desperate guys" may be that way because they were never given a chance....
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/21 05:54 AM
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Had my ears pinned back, gynecomastia surgery, lifted weights for 7 years, studied a second language, mastered my profession (piloting) , studying game and seduction techniques, traveled abroad extensively, am a gentleman most of the time and certainly financially comfortable. Girls want a trophy boyfriend these days but even I still struggle at 6'0 and caucasian and fairly handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:20 PM
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They see the men on TV and with large social media followings, and don't recognize how artificial, scripted and embellished the act is. Then compare them to average men (without comedy writers, fashion consultants, personal trainers and hair stylists) and in doing so make the indignant claim the the "bar is set low"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/21 04:14 PM
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I think many of us would be relieved by such revelations, but the preponderance of evidence suggests the conventional wisdom about relationships/female preferences is way off the mark. Most of us would've been and likely were caught up in a blue pill fantasy of a comfortable and straightforward and satisfying life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 04:40 PM
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Thank you. Just because someone says it doesn't mean it's true
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 06:33 PM
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Agreed. The premise is completely absurd and it seems most responders are glossing over this somehow
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:16 AM
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ONS or the Fuckboy carousel, those are different iterations of the same lust drive in women the latter being when they conflate it with love. and you sorta proved my point with your anecdote: Men's hearts don't get broken by porn stars. And attachments aren't formed, just compulsions. Therefore the Alpha widow situation creates a lot more baggage and is not equivalent to a porn sick guy. His spirit is broken sure, but hardly his heart and/or pair bonding ability I will however concede that alpha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 06:05 AM
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What does quantity have to do with anything? We are imprinted by even singular experiences
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/20 01:28 AM
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Seems like mostly a semantic difference. The point being women get to experience a wild sex life first hand while men are relegated to cheap substitutes; there is no way the impact is in the same ballpark, even if both fade to the same background noise over time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:51 PM
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I fail to see a comparison? A girl on only fans is not a recipient but a producer and the men she relates to are an ambiguous mass.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 10:46 PM
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I get the comparison but it is not a fair one. An alpha widow has direct experience of top notch sex and is damaged by it to the extent it works like rose tinted glasses when she's later with guys in her league. A man watching porn is substituting a real experience for a virtual one and his subconscious isn't fooled, therefore it may cloud his judgement but hardly likely it'll turn him into a spoiled brat.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 07:49 PM
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Beta's just need to develop a spine and boundaries. Women may never gush over them and fight tooth and nail for a piece, but they can get laid and enjoy a modicum of relations. Getting taken advantage of isn't a forgone conclusion, however there is a certain amount of self work they need to do to put their dignity before getting laid. Women (or our sex drive, or both) make this exceptionally difficult but even a beta can eventually learn to prioritize his own needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:39 PM
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Preach!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 04:43 AM
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The human condition is to feel incomplete
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 04:03 AM
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What's happening here is the a textbook examples of the newfangled hierarchy emerging in the SMP. In the modern dating market girls are sharing men of the tier above them. This guy is probably a 7, like me and the girl he longs for is that 7.5 but she is after the 8's and 9s herself. What ends of happening is the guy gets a rotation of 6s and she ends up in a rotation for a male 8-9. I've seen this and been part of this myself. This is the market women wanted and they got it. All women benefit i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:32 PM
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Many of the women here probably measure high in disagreableness, one of the big 5 personality factors, they are spending time debating men after all. Since disagreeableness is much less common in women than men, this alone should tell us that yes we are dealing with a somewhat aberrant cohort of females.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:16 PM
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I agree, your comment is more akin to real life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/20 07:07 PM
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I think they also stem from porn; our subconscious registers that women are getting action, but that some guy other than ourselves are doing all the fucking, hence the preoccupation with Chad. The dynamics in OLD excatcerbate the problem. I think it's a perfect storm of factors all at once that are creating a red pill zeitgeist, though porn and the birth control pill are probably the root causes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 09:45 PM
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ah, I read that backwards
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 04:32 AM
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I guess I'm part of the few men that'd prefer the former... If they're both hot why not go for the one with brains too?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 12:18 AM
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I agree that men are much more likely to terminate relationships that originated online due to that gut feeling that we could do better; and not necessarily because of an abundance mondset, but because we subconsciously recognize the concessions we took in the first place. You hit the nail on the head. Women are playing a high stakes game when batting above their league in OLD, and it works insofsr as they are able to suspend their own disbelief that the man would up and leave when once the inti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 07:18 AM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 05:07 PM
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Yes the system produces winners and losers. If this guy could play God then the system would producers fewer losers and fewer all out winners. Not exactly rocket science why that could be a good thing for more people's happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:10 PM
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I don't think anyone is denying darwinism helps perptuate the species. People want to be happy but nature doesn't care. So obviously this whole exercise is futile. You can't suspend your disbelief for even a thread?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:04 PM
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You seem to have missed the point of this thought experiment. To play god and thus alter human behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:51 PM
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Haha bro biggest letdown ever, 1 the hot ones are few and far between, at my airline atleast 2, they're not just DTF, atleast not with guys like me, 3 as a captain my job comes before chasing tail ; which has ruined others careers before. Some of them are batshit crazy, not to mention. Don't get me wrong I've had a few oppertunities but the job in the beginning is grueling, low pay, moving a lot, hard to build social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:55 AM
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33 yo, lived in several large cities , airline captain, decent shape been OLD since 2013 or so. My experiences have been a mixed bag. I'd say my looks peaked at 28 but I've never had the lifestyle or logistics that get guys at my tier 7-7.5 laid with consistency. I've definitely noticed OLD has become more difficult, in the U.S. specifically. but the girls that are into you are more desperate and obvious. The majority of women age 24-34 who are attractive act basically same in regards to game pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 02:29 AM
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Ok, you've said what I've said in the most reductionist way possible. Would you not concede sex can be risky? Would you also not concede that casual sex probably isn't worthwhile if the guy isn't worth lusting after? Ok so is their nuance to women's choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:54 AM
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They have higher standards because they have a lower sex drive. Frankly females win the mating game primarily on the basis of being able to hold out longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:49 AM
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the women on this sub ALWAYS dig their heels in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:44 AM
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They do it cause the man is attractive and women live in the moment. Women want to be bad - and conceal it but been seen as pure. So it's a battle of guilt/regret vs lust. Women don't need to go all the way with a guy just to feel desired, so it takes a lot more push/pull. It's easier getting your short term wants met as a woman. Its harder to control the fallout however.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/20 04:40 AM
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Women will keep ratcheting up demands until they hear a loud "no" or they price themselves out of the market. We may finally be reaching that point but man isn't it a miserable experience for everyone involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/20 02:56 PM
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I went from private to instrument, commercial, multi atp, FO and now regional captain. Women, flight attendants included, seem to over the same period of time have growing demands that outstripped even that career progression where I always find myself back at square one. Hang in there man.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 02:24 AM
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Haha nice reframe
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/20 03:54 AM
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Because 9 times out of 10 men are batting downward in casual encounters and on a certain level we acknowledge it is a sub optimal strategy utilized to meet a short term need. It's quite simple, a man doesn't LTR a women he wouldn't want to bring around his peer group or family...period! What you're asking is why can't all women have the upper hand in all interactions? God made women's lives easier in the sex department and if they let that power corrupt they end up like you, oblivious to what in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 05:06 PM
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Agreed. It takes a village to temper the feral longings of women for the town alpha male(s) as well as reign in his ability to hoard/harem sexual attention. ultimately though more people prosper (especially children) and a semblance of social stability can arise. As counterintutive and anti-individualistic as it seems, socially enforced mating behaviors is the vital precursor to stability and thenceforth long term success of a group. The current era is extremely shortsighted in this respect and …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 12:43 AM
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The amount of vitriol you have to wade through to get to the kernels of wisdom is demoralizing. The so called female members treat debating like a one-way road and will almost never admit when a guy is right. I've wasted far too much time considering opinions there.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/07/20 12:35 AM
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Very informed and mature analysis if the dilemma. Without shaming behavior society wide, women are the one's that need to regulate themselves instead of indulging in short term gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 03:35 PM
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brilliant analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 10:59 PM
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Men have tried that approach and realized investing time in the "search" for the unicorn is futile and mostly a waste of time. Women's #1 attraction trigger is pre-selection so even that supposedly prize catch that all guys want will be more interested in the unavailable version of a guy. We've heard women say they are uninterested because a guy is "too available". In fact, being single is a vicious cycle of woman after woman pushing you away, whereas being engaged in FWB or in a relationship co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/20 03:41 AM
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Yes and No. Men who get rejected after a first or second or third date do so often because he was out-competed by another man and not simply that she wasn't feeling it. This implies women have many options - because if a woman is lukewarm - it means she is a yellow light towards you but a green like the other guy, and not necessarily that you are a defect. Life is tougher on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/20 01:26 AM
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Women treat their post enchancement selves as their genetic baseline but assess men based on his actual god-given genetics
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 11:43 PM
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More like famine, strife, disease, pesitlence, natural disaster, fatal injury, inadequate housing, war, etc. Patriarchy built a world to insulate themselves and their women against these forces (of nature). But I'm fairly sure you'll be disagreeing with me shortly because you'd rather me be proven 'wrong' than actually read up on human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:57 AM
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Yeah, I just banged a chick off Hinge that was probably a 5 and I'm a 7. I needed to get a nut off but being around her was tiring. If only I could get a 7 I wouldn't be such a dickhead. But the ones you ignore like you...mostly cause the sex appeal differential though and not the behavior. Anyways, it could be less damaging to just have it all oit on the table rather than negotiating looks and time for cheap and ease.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/20 01:37 AM
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Yes I mistakenly conflated the two. Although R selection could be considered soft polygamy if a tier of men are monopolizing on access.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 07:44 PM
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Most honest and self reflective post on the thread. Nice work. What percentage of attractive girls between age 20-35 are like your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/20 04:39 AM
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The way I see it. A new SMP dynamic is emerging organically - from K selection to R selection in the STR and Casual field - women by and large share a correspondingly smaller group of men above thier tier by 2-4 SMV points. In other words - a pyramid structure. A male 8 can have an STR with numerous female 5's and 6's or a LTR with a 7 or 8. The number of women electing the STR route will correspond to the degree of monopolization by men. But even a male 6 can have a harem - of female 4s. This w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/20 11:02 PM
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Troll
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 03:27 AM
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Haha I ought to check that out
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 10:40 PM
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Me on app, 6'0 , high IQ, airline pilot, 6 figure income, lift weights 4x week, well traveled, well studied, 3 or 4 short relationships to preserve myself for someone, 33 yo white, translation: SEWER. Aint that dandy...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 09:14 PM
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Exactly. Like bro YOU be the mad scientist with all the crazy theories to test out and let your woman admire you for that. She can't be dumb as a box of rocks obviously but good conversation skills and an ability to follow are way better prerequisites.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 01:50 PM
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Women are the problem to the extent they are the gatekeepers - men cannot control decisions which aren't theirs to make. Women's behavior, if it were slightly re-calibrated toward long term happiness over short term dopamine rush - would be a net benefit to them and society, I maintain. I don't deny that a huge swath of men have done no self improvement and yet feel entitled to possess a woman. Women have zero obligation to meet those demands I completely agree. Just as men have duty to tackle t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:05 PM
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I agree. I don't get why PPD women see honesty and prizing a women necessarily means he lack skills in bed and is unattractive. They aren't mutually exclusive. Sure, the hottest guys aren't like this, and the ugliest guys probably are, but there is a huge portion of decent guys whose traits would be a boon to women. If women would sacrifice a little bit in the looks department they'd probably get a lot in the other departments. But not the high dopamine ones - which seems like there is a prefere…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:23 PM
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The topic itself is very incendiary and prone to extreme views, though that's not necessarily an excuse. I don't support them, but I've owned up to my deficiencies and undergone dramatic self improvement measures (like many men have), so to an extent I expect women to own up their shortcomings and then we can have an discussion about how to proceed, but i'm just not seeing that at all. I used to believe that was a fair expectation but nowadays seems like anything is fair game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:13 AM
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I'm compartmentalizing the love-relationship cluster in human life from the rest of the outside world. Material abundance is a great thing, and as a result, suffering will be lessened. I've been able to dramatically improve my material well being through consistent action. But love life cannot be approach the same way because there is a person on the other end. The two are not interchangeable or substitutes for one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 04:01 AM
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Looks are the single largest factor, but not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:55 AM
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You have to think of it as a tool - for men to avoid financial ruin, unnecessary suffering and so on. In that sense it is a survival instinct and not fully objective. On some level guys know that not all women are treacherous, Machiavellian schemers. But we don't deny biology has an overwhelming influence on their predilections. Imagine if a change in society occurred that meant you were going to lose all your friends and be cut off from talking to your family and you were headed to an institute…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:45 AM
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If you've never been in that guy's shoes you wouldn't know if the whining is justified or not. There are large population shifts at play here and we are using deductive reasoning to form hypothesis about why they are occurring. In many cases women are caught red handed. The manosphere was a collection of men's experiences, and guys started piecing the puzzle together. What you're reading are explanations that already have a preponderance of evidence getting more and more revised. the core framew…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:17 AM
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Haha I enjoy the liberal use of caricatures here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 03:09 AM
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Or you could be backwards rationalizing why it's better to date a player who will play you instead of an honest guy who likely won't be beating or bullying you because they prize you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:57 AM
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Because women are the gatekeepers, or goalies rather. And they let chad score. Women would be pissed if men tried to stop this racket. They have a preference for immediate gratification and chad has a solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:53 AM
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Hard hitting truth my man
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:45 AM
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Why is an average guy committing to Stacy any more unreasonable than an average girl wanting commitment from Chad? There are more Stacies willing to compromise than there are Chads, cause chad fucks over even stacy. .
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 02:44 AM
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I mean, I don't think getting laid is a virtue, but I also don't think NOT getting laid is a virtue either. Celibacy is only a virtue if it's in your best interests long term. Being attractive can be a virtue if it brings you and your loved one happiness. Otherwise yeah it's not a virtue in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 05:52 AM
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Not really. We need to earn love to be able to receive it. It will never be fair of course but it could be a lot fairer than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:59 AM
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haha this is comically refreshing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:57 AM
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(in theory)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:56 AM
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hard to refute this example of citizen science. Thank god for the truth warriors out there fighting the good fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:53 AM
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Yep, the delineation between "nice" girls and other girls was supposed to be a loophole - so average looking guys could find success. Turned out women's herd mentality was so prevalent even the nice girls wanted the bad girl life and sex from it's male icon (chad).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:30 AM
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You definitely struck a chord. A women who is lukewarm about you could lead you on for months on end, breadcrumbing, giving randomly timed IOI's, holding your hand even if it's bad enough, but you never really seal the deal. Then chad comes along and puts in NONE of the courtship work and boom, you see them disappear together in a car during a house party. THIS IS HOW IT HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES TO ME. You imagine your sweet girl getting bore'd out by him and it is a brutal feeling of defeat. Eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:21 AM
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the world changed, don't beat yourself up about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 04:06 AM
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Last 12 months? Upgraded to Captain of an airliner, began investing in the stock market, paid off my car, gained about 10lbs muscle, read 8 books on self development/finance. Interviewed at my dream job and got it (for now), was rejected by 3 women at work but atleast I tried. Got plastic surgery to fix protruding ears. Visited Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:21 PM
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In a sense though 40 is the maximum total testosterone cumulative effects before each year becomes slightly less than the prior. In a way maleness may peak early 40. I have noticed how men that have weight trained properly do have a hard looking body in late age, like a cumulative dense look that can be impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:32 AM
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Ok but the they peak early-mid 20s? Do you have a source you could point me towards to research this second spike?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 05:23 AM
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I think my point went square over your head. Just because you and your immediate peers deny that older men are still attractive, does not mean the jury is out, case closed. So getting hit on by older guys gives you the hebbie jebbies, that is what it is, will you isolate yourself for the rest of your life to avoid this? or learn to tastefully dismiss the advances. Part of living in this world is dealing with people who don't necessarily care about your emotional reactions and are solely looking …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:47 PM
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Will you elaborate on this 'second biological bulking'. Don't testosterone levels drop linearly throughout life?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:41 PM
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This chick is on a brazen campaign and cannot handle even the slightest refutation of her myopic premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:38 PM
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my man!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 09:27 PM
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Yes it is correct to point out that distinction. Yet the implications are basically the same (for men). Some percentage of women must not want, need, or pursue sex with anyone basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:28 AM
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I get the argument you're making and it is sound logically but just because you CAN bone a girl doesn't mean you should wife her up. Would she be a better candidate than an social media attention whore? Probably? Super depressing it's gotten this bad but you're not entirely wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/20 03:01 AM
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Blanket statements are pretty useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:59 PM
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It's a saying and a principle not an absolute truth. You, being only 21 aren't quite able to comprehend how preferences shift over time. Desires, tastes, the kinds of experiences you will want. Instead of shouting at everyone you are the sole arbiter of truth and the final say as to what is attractive or not, ask youself "what does she see in him that I don't". It all boils down to how men are much much more likely (than women) to GET BETTER with age. It causally includes looks in the appraisal …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/20 11:49 PM
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That sounds like a very long and tough road you've been on. I can imagine when looks and artistry go together it is a deadly combo because they lead you to believe they understand life and the uninverse yada yada and you fall for it because of her looks. I could see that coming unraveled as an artsy chick is likely highly unstable and totally self serving. I find myself attracted to the free spirit hottie hippies but they are difficult to find so I keep an open mind. The biggest factor in my suc…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 02:32 PM
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holy shit lemme catch my breath! your perspective is dialed in my man. how did you get there mentally? I'm 33, confirmed bachelor, been mostly monk mode all my life and just have flings every 6 months or so until they peter out. I'm trying to get regular sex but the whole preoccupation with it translating into a relationship makes it hard to just roll with it as they come. I end up resenting the fact women do approach it exactly like you're describing (10 on speed dial etc). How do you let go of…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/05/20 06:00 AM
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yes, yes it is. *inserts the jack Nicholson meme*
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 03:23 AM
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Maybe, maybe not. Necessity is the mother of invention, after all
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 08:58 PM
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Yes sir, this entire construct of an SMP is one gigantic ongoing prisoner's dilemma.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 03:21 AM
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It isn't false
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 08:47 PM
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Dum cumster dumb cumbster dump cumpster
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 04:57 AM
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just OLD stats
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:19 PM
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I think you mean stone cold. cold stone is an ice cream franchise
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:16 PM
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Let me put it this way, my flight attendants are usually unimpressed by us pilots and they think because we only spend 6 weeks at the training center and they spend 4, that our jobs aren't that much harder. Bitch I spent 8 years of blood, sweat and tears to get in this seat and you'd kill us in under 2 minutes. Imagine being so oblivious to the world you minimize literally everyone's achievements so you don't have to confront your own lack of ambition, and instead rely almost entirely on your se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:26 PM
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It's like a dojo, you learn to hit and take hits and keep going. Identify red flags, concoct your own language, and use it as a force field. The real world is full of sinister, perverted messages you need to learn how to not let faze you - or to unprogram your brainwashing. Arguing on here helps toward that end. It shows you the mental models other men have built and you can adopt all or parts of them as necessary. I do agree that ultimately the goal is to get off of here once you get the memo c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:07 PM
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When you build your business model on a completely incorrect assumption there should be repercussions when it fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 05:15 AM
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Agreed. If there was no obesity then between ages 15-45, 80 percent would be bangable but only 15 percent would actually be hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/20 01:20 AM
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Women are herd creatures and thus their tastes are very malleable. If we produced content/movies/TV of women having a grand 'ole time with their smarty pants boyfriends, living a high quality lifestyle, it would catch on. A girl would get a nerd bf if even 1 of her friends finds success there. They need to see it is a possibility 1st, and be pointed in that direction 2nd, otherwise Chad worship becomes the default. Notice beer commercials, the guys are almost always BETTER LOOKING than the girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 11:21 PM
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god I wish I lived in Europe, it sounds so much more down to earth
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:54 PM
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Comedy alone doesn't wet panties but of course women love the free entertainment. Listen to stand-up comedians joke about how they don't get laid like rockstars and they are the best at the craft.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:31 PM
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I haven't mastered it so I can't say for sure. DGAF is very important if GAF is your obstacle. GAF may at one point in time been beneficial, if dating was taking place under a supervised setting (which I think It was quite often)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:30 PM
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By justified I meant fake-it-till-you-make-it vs not having to fake it. The marketing vs the content. In the long run it makes a difference, but in the short term it doesn't. But you're right about how you feel about yourself is what matters most and confidence is a standalone trait...but I maintain that eventually reality will force you to calibrate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 10:23 PM
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Exactly. There is a far larger percentage of guys with the nothing to lose balls out approach then the amused mastery approach. Most men don't reach self developement goals but they can always get shit faced and wing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 04:00 PM
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Approaching is pure instinct yeah, but Seducing a woman used to require being smart with words, which is IQ. Now it's a nice feature but image/DGAF works better.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 03:50 PM
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I'm sure it happens from time to time but looks/charisma must be on point...which really has nothing to do with IQ, well sorta. She's right about the brooding shit...I do that and women are repulsed by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 08:14 AM
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Two words : Dunning Kruger . The phenomena where a person's ignorance of their ignorance enables them to be unjustifiably self-confident. Basically low IQ makes you oblivious to reasons why you should be inhibited. It's actually a gift in approaching women I think. Also women's expectations and standards have completely changed...chivalry, class and wit are out but coming in guns-blazing acting entitled to her pussy is in, so long as he can convince her other women are fucking him. Not all chick…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:22 AM
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a blind brad pitt! lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 06:10 AM
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This happens to me all the time. match, start convo, then they leave it hanging.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:23 AM
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bother him? he's answering the post that you wrote for god's sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/20 01:09 AM
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I'm not sure you understand men but cumming inside of a 9 or 10 is probably one of the best feelings in the world. And if you weren't paying it'd feel even better, I won't deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 08:24 PM
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It depends. I'd rather pay to bang a hot chick than have to inebriate myself to numb the indifference I feel toward a sub par girl and actually be able to get it up. Also, you run the risk of the uglier chick getting attached. We are looking out for them too you know. If short term mating options are with women of far lower SMV than paying for play is a rational move.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:33 PM
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I've come to the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:26 PM
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So in the real world men are approaching all women left and right and lining up for a chance to strike out? C'mon man. Women would have no use for OLD if that were the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:23 PM
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Because human psychology is a constant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:17 PM
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This is tragic and hilarious. How the hell did we let it get so bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:15 PM
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look at her flair...she's here to cause friction and probably doesn't believe in half the bullshit she peddles
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:11 PM
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Yes, and allow me to explain in financial terms. OLD is 'cheap' attention that women have on tap to soothe their insecurities about the real, outside world, where men are inhibited for various reasons. What is 'cheap', by the definition of hypergamy, can't be 'worth' much to them, hence 'inflation'. her perceived worth is inflated, like a bubble, because she can afford to buy so much cheap attention. make sense? We all know what happens to financial bubbles...so I'll let you come to your own con…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 07:04 PM
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Let me get this straight, out in the real world the SMV points to one thing, so you go online to see the "truth" that its actually much much higher? So in other words : online is real and reality is wrong. Sounds about right.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:57 PM
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Human behavior is a never-ending series of course corrections and adaptations. A large segment of the female population has been taught it is okay to act in total self-absorption and that men don't deserve respect. These are the women that have the highest to fall. Most, I suspect are just going with the flow, and if men started austerity measures - which mgtow is a leading indicator of that occurring, than women would get in line fairly quickly. You are right though it is a ticking time-bomb
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 06:36 PM
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Aww c'mon it's a harmless jab. ....Pun intended
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 01:56 AM
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To a degree yeah. I think though it's pornorgraphy that is causing men to project the 80/20 chad hypothesis which is an iteration of high n-count. They see the same hung jacked dudes fucking all these chicks at the drop of a hat and it registers subconsciously as monoplization and then manifests in these theories. Because there is a degree of truth to them, porn amplies and engenders the beliefs until it reaches dogmatism. I say this as a guy who believes in 80/20 but also the destructiveness of…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:13 AM
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TIL the women who frequent PPD have been in knife fights. Well That explains a few things...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/20 12:03 AM
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You need to have blinders on to believe that society is "doing just fine" The fact this sub exists makes that assertion untrue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:45 PM
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Hypergamy isn't awful if it forces men to better themselves. OTOH, Hypergamy in a context of AF/BB and Feminism is a like pouring gasoline on a fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:44 PM
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Men arent afraid of the truth even if it is aggravating. If women told the truth it would result in men saying "ok fine but no more( time energy money, shelter, protections )". Women have a lot to lose so their strategy is deeply invested in subterfuge & plausible deniability
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:38 PM
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Cool post. Flying is similar.. the natural reaction when pointing towards the ground in landing is to pull the control wheel toward yourself, which will actually slow the plane to the stall speed and could easily kill you. You have to fight natural instinct and push forward toward the runway. Imo Hypergamy should be tempered by rationale
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:31 PM
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I'm going to challenge your view because it seems like to me you are living in denial and choose to handle your discomfort through postmodern ethics. Nothing is "problematic" about our biology except in how it impedes your objective of equalizing the playing field at any cost. I get it, it's painful that genetics are given unfairly at birth, but don't conflate your anger at that, with the belief that beauty is socially constructed. There are aspects of beauty that are, sure but the vast majority…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 05:01 PM
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Interesting take, I've never thought of it this way
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 09:11 AM
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I think you must've hit hit a sore spot. Men face adversity in the external and internal world but testosterone (ultimately) imparts us the fortitude to overcome. Whereas women's lives are lived in quiet desperation, even if the external circumstances are more favorable (which they aren't necesarily).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:41 AM
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Fair enough. But I'm talking about the earliest stages and you're talking about the later ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 06:25 AM
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"All truths pass through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self-evident" -Schopenhauer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 04:03 AM
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it's 2020 and men are done trying to guide and protect women from their own devices. Women should weigh the risks and consequences against the potential benefits and make a decision rationally. Go into it with your eyes open and no expectations on the guy or any guys in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/20 03:58 AM
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It is a cheap assault on masculinity and male self esteem. Objectifying women as holes is similar yeah and I don't condone it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 09:35 PM
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That's not always the case. Strip mine is used very well in my opinion. He could've said "exploit" "extract" or some other word but strip mining, gives it character and makes it interesting. Strip mining is when you blow up the side of a mountain to get the goods out FYI. This is how memes are constructed with layers of meaning that make it actually very clever and provocative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:41 PM
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We all know it's true, but their only arguing tactic is through discredit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:32 PM
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Pretty sure "Limp Dick" "Audacity of scrote" "Muh penis" "male depravity" flair all qualify as misandrist discourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:30 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:25 PM
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It's all tinder screenshots. Scant thoughtful commentary but some of the mods have good ideas
/r/MGTOW201/05/20 07:21 AM
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No the questions is bigger.. like what would you do if you didn't have a vagina? That the answer to solve your false dichotomy is fuck the hot guy proves women think almost strictly with base impulses. Maybe the TRP guy is in a rough patch and trying to improve himself, a work in progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:56 AM
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Yeah this is true. Their power lies in the ability to create chaos out of order.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:40 AM
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Why is the answer with you people always to fuck chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:28 AM
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Haha
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 06:25 AM
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Look at red line on the chart.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:15 AM
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Because the top 1 percent of men corrupt far more women than the top 1 percent of women corrupt men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 05:14 AM
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What you are arguing isn't that the pareto principle is over done, if anything, that it is under done! The distribution of casual sex partners is heavily weighted toward the top 1 percent and then comes a steep drop off after 10 percent or so. How is this any better than 80/20, if anything its worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:35 AM
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The kind of women that numerous "High Value" men compete over for a shot at marriage are so few and far between they may as well not exist. The chance of an average women commanding that kind of attention is miniscule. Men are the chooser's and thus they compete to dominate one another and take that woman as a prize, but there is always another meal coming for them if it doesn't work out, because they are literally swimming in punani . Normal and even Attractive women throwing themselves at the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:28 AM
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Your argument is air tight. Like the feminist movement in general, she is conjuring a revisionist fantasy to debase the notion that men built the world, were respected and revered by women throughout history, and used their god-given power benevolently. Without the contributions of men, this chick wouldn't have a pot to piss in, much less the technological masterpiece that is the internet where she can voice her pitiful rhetoric. The thing about third wave feminists is their arguments are built …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 04:12 AM
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You are arguing in cyclical logic; of course people could keep rejecting each other ad inifinitum until there is no one left to reject... that doesn't mean you have power over hot guys you reject....because they are open to dating many more women, and you, fewer and fewer men. The steeper a women climbs the pyramid to the highest status males, the more competition she encounters to win them over...because structurally there will always be more eligible women than sought after men up towards the …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:59 AM
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No translation necessary, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. also, the musical chairs analogy is perfect.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 03:42 AM
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This is conveniently ignorant of how the platform is designed to exploit human tendencies. Tinder is arranged like a deck of cards? Why ? a completely unnecessary layout that normalizes the behavior of discarding people based on split second assessment of their face. You can't go backwards or see who is next...forever suspended in animation. It could literally be any layout... like 30 people a day you browse and you can't like them you can only message to start an interaction...something to incr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 02:36 AM
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Thank you! I've been grappling with the concepts while also participating in the dating world for the last 15 yrs (I'm 32), so I've watched the landscape change to my utter amazement (and terror).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/20 01:33 AM
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thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:35 PM
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Dude, women will not be able to answer this honestly. Women have zero regerts.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:12 PM
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Exactly, the preponderance of data points to 80/20 holding true. And very little data points to the contrary, therefore we must conclude it is in fact aligned with the principle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:07 PM
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You are too preoccupied with the semantics of the word "rule" you are missing the point. It is called the pareto "principle", and colloquially coined the 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 10:01 PM
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Here's a link to the 40 percent fact. https://www.pnas.org/content/116/36/17753 It is called the '80/20 rule' colloquially, not because it is a immutable law, but because it is a rule of thumb. There will always be exceptions to the "rule" but it is a good working theory of casual sex distribution. it was originally used to suggest that 20 percent of ones business practices result in 80 percent of profits I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:58 PM
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So you acknowledge the top 2% are enjoying an all you can eat buffet, but in the same breath claim the Pareto distribution is patently false. It's been demonstrated the Gini coeffecient on tinder would result in it being something like the 10th most unequal country in the world. Something like 40 percent of all relationships nowadays are started online. How do you reconcile these two stats? - one can only conclude men are forming soft harems. The pareto principle isn't an ironclad rule - it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 09:29 PM
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So smart they we're able to identify the myriad results of men leaving the marriage market. So stupid, they couldn't think to ask WHY??
/r/MGTOW30/04/20 09:03 PM
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I generally agree with the assertion, however if it were universally true as it is for women (all attractive women are prized), then it would mean men had a basically guaranteed route to success in the mating realm, vis a vis making money. This is a patently false claim, as many men simply will never enjoy the kind of universal appeal an attractive woman does, in spite of being wealthy. Bezos, Gates are not sex icons and not in demand from most attractive women. You need the Looks, money, status…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:19 PM
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Consensus bias. What if we are in fact the canary in the coal mine? Most "normal" people don't have a deep capacity for self-reflection required to grapple with the difficult realizations discussed on this subreddit. Why ? because it threatens their sense of self value and could lead to massive insecurity. It is called the dunning-kruger effect, people who are ignorant believe they are smart and are therefore irrationally confident and experience sucess as a result. The average person unconsciou…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 08:03 PM
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What you're picking up on is definitely happening...a sexual arms race for power and popularity. Women want to have it all, the hot guy her friends will be envious of, his sperm (genetically gifted offspring), and her own career so she can be self respecting. This has become an expectation for young women and is resulting in a degree of misery among the average girl unable to procure said lifestyle. These perceived grievances result in feelings hostility and animosity that manifest as superficia…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:44 PM
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This is totally over-complicating the issue. For women, the feeling of being special occurs part and parcel with the man's perceived options. In other words, he makes her feel special because he could've chosen from a bevvy of chicks and he chose her. It really isn't so much about cherishing a person as it is being chosen by someone desirable. The cherishing is like the cherry on top the sundae, and it is often faked, because players understand how to exploit this in women. Men only feel special…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:31 PM
2

internally people are changing. behaviorally in public, lagging indicator
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:26 PM
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then your vocabulary is sorely lacking. Fringe - outskirt, not representative of majority sub - subreddit , forum within forum
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:25 PM
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An attractive woman in her prime always has and always will be currency in the human enterprise. How it gets capitalized upon depends a lot in that womans standards, life history and motivations. Don't expect it to change, it's a powerful bargaining chip.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:32 PM
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Personally, I like intelligent women but it doesn't overcome the looks factor. A smart woman will get points added for sure though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:28 PM
1

Do korean chicks (in korea) wanna meet successful white american guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:22 PM
5

Apex fallacy: All Men are _______ , because the few top men I've banged all seem to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 05:16 PM
2

This is a more realistic blueprint.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/20 07:24 AM
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In biological terms for an individual, yes. Will these escapades likely result increasing misery in the world? Also yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/20 12:30 AM
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Degeneracy is a deviation from traditional social restrictions as I understand it. It's not necessarily a winning strategy on it's own, but playing the game by an outdated set of rules is certainly a losing one.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:33 PM
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For the same reason a lobster's serotonin levels rise and fall with its position in the dominance hierarchy. We are biologically-hormonally mediated organisms, and thus hopelessly compelled to pursue winning strategies. religion always comes after the fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 09:07 PM
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Oh there is no doubt the jewish culture and high trust society plays a huge role. Nor am I saying responsibility for family formation is reliant upon state action. Just an interesting case study. There are likely aspects of the trend that can be utilized... for example, how did they convince women en masse that motherhood is a worthwhile pursuit, even if it is costly to their personal freedom?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:59 PM
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Not everything works in reverse just cause it makes an easy argument to formulate. Men aren't fundamentally hypergamous, we don't seek success through relationships, but instead through achievement. Women are a lagging indicator of success in a man, this is red pill 101. A man optimizing his sexual strategy would be a harem of hot, loyal women...and yes that probably would lead to optimum happiness but that is hardly hypergamy as it is defined, it's polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 08:56 PM
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A women who is able to optimize her hypergamy will reach her potential happiness, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 07:04 PM
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It takes a special type of woman, like you to march to the beat of your own drum in spite of the social shaming that will inevitably result. What's sad about women is how your act of genuine love for your bf is seen as traitorous because it threatens the power brokering women have in the early part of their lives, by admitting that men do have quite a long fertility window- like to mid 40s, whereas women it's probably to early 30s. This is why it is not okay to ask a women her age. Concealing in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:57 PM
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This issue was discussed in Mark Regnerus book 'cheap sex' and it comes down to "market clearing". The attractive men , and to a much lesser extent women, take a prolonged amount of time going from the dating market to the marriage market. They date endlessly and swap partner to partner, never clearing the market and therefore give women bad signals, in a sense because these men aren't truly single - they are the market play boys. It is a different way of framing the 80/20 rule if you think abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 06:03 PM
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The country has made it easy and reasonable to meet and make family and that is exactly what's happened
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:39 PM
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That's cool, I dated a 37 year old when I was 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:34 PM
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Oh bullocks, you'd pick 20 so you can enjoy her at 20 and 28. Stop acting clueless
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:25 PM
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Women have a lot more innante insecurity than men, by and large so a women dating a more attractive man, while exciting and bragging rights, can generate an unsustainable amount of anxiety they'd rather not deal with long term, whereas a woman dating down has power like you say but also is comforted by the lack of anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:31 PM
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Enjoy the megalomania while you can ehh?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:11 PM
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Look into isreal as well, some very interesting developments and lessons in how to create a baby boom in modern times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:08 PM
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Male competition is as subtle as having two guys in your phone and letting one of them fade into obscurity. Or someone at work getting a promotion and that increasing attractiveness. It is a harsh world out there I didn't make the rules and I certainly would prefer to solely act kind and promote family formation and be keen on a girls emotions but we men learn how counterproductive taking that attitude is. We are playing by women's (typical) preferences so you only have yourselves to blame. Mayb…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 02:21 PM
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dude, piece of advice: if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. you are playing on their turf and it will come at the cost of your self-esteem. OLD is a way for women to feign interest while depriving you of having any expectation of them meeting half way. Without the anecdotal success stories the whole charade would've collapsed on itself by now. use your time on this earth to further your interests, not theirs. Men will be inventing a better model soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:45 AM
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bahahaha sick burn
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 05:40 AM
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You do you best to show them it doesn't have to be this way. But deep inside they revel in the pain, exhaustion, yearning, drama and male on male competition inherent in mating rituals. It is innate and it's men's fault for assuming loosening the social restrictions wouldn't result in chaos. Of course they swore over and over again it would be fair, and they would operate in good faith, but to this day they will not acknowledge how the overreach in power that occurred has CAUSED massive distress…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:52 AM
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underrated comment
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:40 AM
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Wow, a very cogent response. It is by no means a free market. Women intuitively understand this so they are hush hush. They have collectively, with the aid of legislation, moved the goalpost so far that accepting a decent, honest man as a husband feels like oppresion... hence the shrieking in this thread. They have leveraged advantages getting in scholastic programs, and obviously women are better at socializing. men built a consumer society to make them feel comfortable. How did they reward us?…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:24 AM
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It takes a special level of entitlement, and dissociation from ones needs to convince oneself that it is in fact better to die alone that to compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:02 AM
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doubling down is the only strategy women know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 04:01 AM
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Well, I give people the benefit of the doubt. but also abide by the principle of "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/20 03:51 AM
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yeah I suppose. What inner torture a person must suffer to post passive aggressively to internet strangers and then attempt follow up with deception and subterfuge. Poor soul
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 09:23 PM
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I agree. Id like to add though that women have priced themselves out of the market in many instances and something men do is engineer their way out of problems...not just self improve. Since there is basically unlimited demand for female intimacy from men, innovations will be made to capture this market. Wheter advanced sex dolls and new form of nightlife/prostitution, AI- simulation, the clarion call of men will not go unanswered indefinitely. Self improvement can help every guy do marginally b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:35 PM
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It had already been happening for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:16 PM
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Romance is an ideal much like art, aesthetics, and career mastery. People have an innate need to exalt the rich, powerful and beautiful because we feel inadequate in the magnitude of the human enterprise- to build, dominate, be admired at any cost. Romance is for people who refuse to acknowledge that life is mostly banal and fleeting. It is a survival mechanism as much as an ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:13 PM
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The human condition is very tragic. Perpetually unsatisfied and trying to get closer to total admiration, awe and authority. It is all very fleeting but very real and movies recognize this and exploit it...pumping the ego up to act in machiavellian ways to advance towards these ends. You can't denounce it as it is a basic impluse of being human and you will suffer whether you embrace it or not. Better to suffer doing your best to glimpse it than retreat/denial/withdrawal- the eastern way. You ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 06:07 PM
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Unless this was a catalyst to snap women outta it, Women will continue to binge on tinder during their ovulation and then go back to bemoaning their dating options during the rest of the month. OLD has already been apocalyptic for most guys, most of us have hit rock bottom and made the necessary adjustments in mentality. Regarding the virus, There is no new normal, this was the biggest psyop of the century and a troubling sign of growing authoritarianism in the democratic west. I'd be more worri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:56 PM
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This is gold
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 05:50 PM
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Being white is an advantage in the US is it not? Warfare is played with leveraged advantages in so many realms. If were taking the moral argument, what i'm saying is yes, absolutely play the advantages, is that not what women do? I got priced outta the market here, I price someone outta the market there. It's unfair but I didnt ask for it. Why should I be the one to bite the bullet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:22 AM
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Haha true
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:20 AM
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The cultural differences could definitely be sore point. This is advice for people with high "openness to experience"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 01:20 AM
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No I'm not chad and I'm not conventionally attractive. There is a subset of women that like my look. Women are schizo online and act however the fuck they want. They match and then flake/stop replying. It's terrible but it's gotten me laid atleast 8 times. I have moved bases to chase career advancement but with coronavirus I'm staring down the barrel of a gun. Moving around is probably a bigger factor than my looks but all I know is okcupid in 2013 when I was broke and drifting was much better t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:35 AM
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I agree completely
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:24 AM
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There is an element of risk in all bargaining but look I don't disagree with you; I've towed the MGTOW line for periods of time but I seem to keep coming back to a future version of life where I'm happily paired off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:23 AM
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No I appreciate the advice. Im an Airline pilot. I've been called handsome numerous times and women that are 6s make their presence known. Usually I go to bed with women that are 7s so I can't be that unattractive. Im 6', in good shape maybe a slightly above avg face. OLD stats sre so skewed you can base your self assesment of that. But it's the caliber of women I get in the U.S, noticeably lower than abroad. Some men have high expectations for themselves and thier future SOs I'm one of them. Wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:15 AM
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I realize that. But in a probabilistic sense, a girl who sees you as a catch is way less likely to be motivated fuck you over than one who sees you as a dime a dozen. Obviously you've gotta do due diligence. also I'm not only talking about marriage necesarily but even having a good dating life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:09 AM
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I move a lot for work. I make friends but people seem to be mostly looking out for themselves, not trying to set you up with the pretty chick they know. I'm not as photogenic as I am handsome and my lifestyle just doesn't have that magnetic aspect women dig. In Asia and parts of Europe a man im uniform, in a cockpit is evidence enough he is good breeding stock. In the US it's just meh....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:06 AM
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It's not necesarily..your remark seemed trite but I guess Intrepreted it incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 12:03 AM
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You are insinuating a malicious intent in all cases? Look I'm not saying going abroad absolves a man of doing his due diligence but that more favorable negotiation terms are to be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:57 PM
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There are tens of millions of them man you cant paint with that wide of a brush.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:55 PM
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Obviously there are logistical factors. I'm talking purely dating economics
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:53 PM
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My job has me here for now but that is the long term plan. Go where you are treated best.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:52 PM
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Lots of bad actors in the industry that is for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:51 PM
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If majority of relationships are starting online these days...then that leaves us little choice. Tinder, bumble, hinge...they're all basically the same when it boils down. It's not about getting a relationship to end being single. It's about pairing up with someone with whom you feel like youre getting a great deal, and she feels the same. That can happen in the U.S. but it is increasingly rare as women are exposed to a caliber of options no average guy can compete with. They will FEEL jipped
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:49 PM
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I can pull "americunts" if I date down or am willing to be shot down time and time again. Or I could get an 8 in taiwan over the course of a weekend. Keeping a chick is easy, convincing her to smash is half the battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:46 PM
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I'm not saying it's a panacea, but a better trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 11:44 PM
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Ditto
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 06:06 PM
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and the vast majority don't mind the tournament mating scheme, and in fact greatly benefit from it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:45 PM
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The cultural practices dismantled by feminism are exactly those, which kept our animal nature at bay. Nowadays it's men being told to reign in their desires while women get a free hall pass to run amuck with the few boys that disobey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 05:36 PM
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I agree with you and am refreshed to hear someone operating at this level. Our society promotes wide scale deprivation and sadness in exchange for a winner take all outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 03:13 AM
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It's true. preselection really is the single most important factor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 06:05 PM
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Administering and managing the built world has often required treating family as enterprise and guarding it carefully. Women left to fend for themselves were far worse off than in marriage. Were all marriages peachy, likely no. Did men suffer and often die for the mothers of their children, absolutely yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:48 AM
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I said have, I didn't say they all do. The OP said none do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:45 AM
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Men have the capacity to love women very deeply, especially if she gives him children. Does that kind of love and appreciation help during the courtship phase...not at all, in fact it is detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/20 02:38 AM
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You Poor thing
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:48 PM
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We are reaching the breaking point, I believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:25 PM
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We should do it. Rip the dang band-aid off and help men wake up. If you're the 9 outta 10 great, you can go on living your life. and if you're the one out of 10, then there are no false pretenses to the marriage, the woman can reflect on her behavior and get feedback from the world, and the man is not unjustly burdened. Women need be be accountable for their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:23 PM
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It was ok 8 years ago, but nowadays even above average men get lost in the noise. The reports of success on here are dramatizations, or the girls aren't that hot. I see the women my colleagues match with and I do better than them, but even still it's like pulling teeth. I'd rate myself as a 7.5 and I routinely match with 4-6's but as soon as she gets to my level the chance of flaking goes through the roof. It's not healthy for the male psyche to not be in the driver seat. We were designed to ini…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:10 PM
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He is saying you are wasting precious vitality chasing "dopamine addicts with the attention spans of goldfish" as you put it. Way easier to screen out in real life those women that are looking for their fix and nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/20 07:01 PM
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Probably too much and it's my own damn fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:42 PM
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A man's commitment power is an afterthought. Aka if he chooses to wield it, it's a foregone conclusion he already possessed power over her sexuality. Women hold the keys in the relationship world period, but give up that power to desirable men because of their lack of wherewithal and need satisfy addiction to emotions provided by that man, by relinquishing control to him. The sad part is they give this up to men that don't have their best interests at heart and it ends all too often in heartbrea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:35 PM
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No, women are jealous of men's overall power, the influence they have in the world, raw intellect and self assuredness. The sex power women wield as merely a guerilla warfare tactic against men's undeniable dominance in the real world and it gives them penis envy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:23 PM
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It's not more like anything. This is the same circular logic being applied to rebrand the preference and justify going agaisnt their better judgement in the name of vagina tingles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 04:59 AM
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I completely agree. The bigger issue is that men conflate the seduction model in porn with real life. 1. That women are down to pound any place and anytime 2. That a handful of hung studs are monoplizing all the sex and good times. It has a very subconscious programming effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 09:34 PM
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Thank you for being reasonable in your breakdown. It's not black and white but women on here throwing temper tantrums at the fact that being a seasoned man can have it's advantages if played correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/20 01:57 PM
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A westworld scenario, computerized simulated life, cam girls are democritizing sex access/ girl friend experience. Of course this is all a dystopian future and not something to cheer but clearly it is being inaugurated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 06:12 PM
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Bravo! holy shit that was good
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:29 AM
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We are being propelled into a transhumanist paradigm, that's why.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:18 AM
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Men were deceived, misdirected; while women were given false promises about what is possible. In both instances, expectations are not being met and disappointment ensues. Though arguably, the world has largely accommodated the female path and all but ostracized the male one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 05:16 AM
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The moral argument you're alluding to has to boil down to what's good for the greater society, not the individual. Wide scale soft prostitution will be detrimental to the traditional family model going forward, that is irrefutable.Thing is you can't force people to do the right thing morally when the incentives are all backwards. Women are insecure in a future family life and see a window of opportunity to capitalize on arguably their best asset. You cannot fault them for the act, but It demonst…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:57 AM
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well I've moved every year for work, but pretty much have filled the gaps with short lived flings, non of which have materialized into anything substantial. Maybe my luck will change.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 04:41 AM
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I'm 32 and spent the last 10 years building myself up, without much time for dating and worried that i'm over the fence, but your post helps quell that fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:10 PM
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quality, not quantity is what matters my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:08 PM
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an inspiration to us all!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 09:04 PM
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source? the study I saw was a sample of 400 in 1 town.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:30 PM
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shrug emoticon totally unnecessary and passive aggressive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 06:29 PM
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Hardship often develops character. Many men no so endowed by the gods have resorted to developing a personality, which used to be much more highly weighted in the smv. Good looking guys are not always better, they just have more positive emotions because their biology is favorable
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:39 PM
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Because it justifies/hamster-rationalizes their decision in picking the shitty character by denoucing the good, an inversion really. The shitty men have them so convinced that all men are users, when in reality women just don't allow themselves to feel anything lovey-dovey for classically good behavior, however pleasant those traits are. Emotions reign supreme
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:35 PM
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It really does all boil down to preselection and the subsequent feedback loops. I made a full post about this but it was removed for some odd reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:31 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 01:01 AM
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Somehow men's generos assessment of the opposite sex is a luxury and privilege women can't enjoy themselves. Talk about hamstering. You expect us to empathize with that backhanded rationale?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 12:39 AM
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TL;DR : women suffer because of self imposed boner test that refuses to even entertain the idea of a looksmatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 09:52 PM
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Cold hard truth
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 03:23 PM
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I don't get how women can be so sucessful in academia and the professional world and then when it comes to dating, revert to an encoded language that shrouds the truth in words and misdirects and confounds the person being spoken to if he doesn't happen to be able to intuit her state and interpret her words accordingly. Why not just use the language the way it was intended? Unless you're writing poetry or something obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/20 05:32 AM
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wow, you hit the nail on the head!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 01:13 AM
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No Aviators...lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 02:44 PM
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You heard it boys, time to head to europe! Joking aside your commentary suggests that location/demographics plays a huge role. Europe in general touts a more well adjusted and higher trust society. America is perverted and male/female roles inverted. Everything is more polarized and exacerbated here in the midst of this hellish gender war in which women simply will not relent. In the U.S. , if a women doesn't feel immediately sexually excited by your presence, you don't get a shot with her. Thus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 07:14 AM
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Yes yes yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:10 AM
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A cogent analysis women will never admit to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 05:07 AM
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lol
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/04/20 01:26 AM
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I agree, it went horribly wrong. It wasn't so bad in the early 2010's, I got noticed a lot more with much less of a compelling profile. But since then, it's really gone down the tubes. Every year I do a little better for myself, but my results with women go in the opposite direction. it's a bit aggravating to hear women so easily just treat us as disposable annoyances, especially from their implied position of power, in the market. I guess a lot of men are truly shitty on there, but decent guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:39 AM
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You have the arrogance to call 1248 men "ridiculously underwhelming" in terms of quality. I use myself, being someone who is generally swiped left on, as an example of the caliber of man kicked to the curb, to illustrate how skewed the online arena has become.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:22 AM
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That's likely a result of your friends also being highly attractive, as women tend to congregate that way. A hot single mom is in no ways off limits in the minds of most men. Love isn't a guarantee for anybody, but women are the referees as it stands, and most men didn't make the cut. There will be long term consequences to this newfangled social ranking system that's based on the predilections of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/20 12:08 AM
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Well you enjoy a special privilege in the dating world, never having to look far for your next meal. Not all women are so fortunate though many will emulate that behavior. Time will tell if that strategy works out in the long run. I have my doubts, but women have collectively demonstrated they are committed to the trail.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 11:49 PM
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Yes, twice or more the effort for lower returns, but alas still probably better odds than tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:37 PM
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You're 20. As you get older the social networks you relied upon dissolve and it increasingly becomes difficult to find new ones that are as remotely fruitful. This because everybody has to start paying their own way and doesn't have time to just fuck around. Pretty women especially, become quite particular and deliberate in how they spend time and it quickly becomes a feedback loop where access to all of them is only for top level men. They aren't hanging around malls or intermural sports teams …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:21 PM
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I'm 6' make over 100k, fly airplanes around the US and keep myself in good shape and engage in decent banter and genuine interest: Translation "quality abyssal". Women are absolutely uncalibrated and uncompromising in our day and age. Burn it down
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 08:15 PM
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I agree this is the main culprit. Pool halls, bowling alleys, arcades, waterparks are out there but increasingly empty or designated for kids only. People have become afraid of strangers and also mellianials are obsessed with appearing cool so they are very picky of how and where they socialize. Young singles want exclusively to be around other beautiful people not intermingle with the general public so before too long you get a culling effect. Unfortunately if this behavioral tendency isn't rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/20 03:29 PM
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I Agree with what the others say about post hoc rationalization. Regular Men lament that women's preferences in dating are so schizophrenic but over years of getting looked over we come to terms with it one way or another. This is because regular men by and large conduct the affairs of the world and feel a sense of entitlement to a partner as a result of their ongoing contributions. Niceness is simply the default way of diffusing tension and avoiding conflict (which women abhor), it's not a mani…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 03:05 PM
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I think you may be conflating self-rejection and the power dynamic in relationships. The men who rejected you you perceived as more desirable than yourself, and due to your flight/fight/freeze response, you direct the pain inwardly. I know this because I do it to, and I think lots of men do. It may or may not be an accurate assessment of the other person, however the issue is people with lots of options don't have to reflect deeply as they tend to obtain positive outcomes regardless of behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:12 PM
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men collectively have bent over backwards to make life on earth more bearable for women, through ingenuity and self-sacrifice, and this led to a mutually beneficial outcome. The casual sex paradigm can only benefit a select few men by virtue of women's proclivities in the SMP. No amount of grooming and preening oneself as a man will make it a fair system like we had.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 03:00 PM
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we had a system that kept these raw evolutionary pressures at bay, but women abdicated their role circa 1970 in favor of the scorched earth "lets you and he fight" . The rest is history
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:55 PM
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and Why did it end in 2014...? hint hint his name was Elliot
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:40 PM
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No it was not #metoo, The point of turning was when Elliot Rodgers went AWOL in Santa Barbara in 2014. The media linked the act of violence to "PUAhate", some online forum he was a member of (which mind you was the antithesis of PUA) and the rest is history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 02:36 PM
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I'm a pilot...they don't care. Got laid more as a farmer
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/20 03:37 PM
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which certificate/rating are you on? whats your total time?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen04/02/20 05:41 AM
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swing and a miss. Those male physiques are only achievable with years of hard work in the gym and sub 10% bf hardcore dieting. As for the female, some light cardio and weight management to get to 20% bf. its night and day as far as figure/physique goes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/20 12:29 AM
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Sad statistic, but just cause women collectively dropped the ball in this department, doesn't mean that men as a whole will shift their priorities to accommodate, at least in the near term. Ugliness as a result being overweight is LARGELY inexcusable. Women can hem and haw all they want, it's not an excuse for laziness. Fact of the matter is being thin alone doesn't make a woman a 7, our memories of attractive women are perennial, and also informed by more than the immediate surroundings.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:56 AM
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bingo
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/20 02:42 AM
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