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It’s not a safety concern. It’s status sensitivity triggered by a man straying from gender norms. Also, it’s evolutionarily adaptive for men to be unfaithful and to abandon their pregnant partners. We built social guardrails to disincentive this otherwise rational behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:49 PM
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“The ick” by definition only refers to trivial turn-offs, not legitimate safety concerns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:44 PM
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Feminism is the dominant narrative in the western world. You aren’t challenging entrenched power; you are the establishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 11:00 PM
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Nah you’re conflating “the ick” with an objective red flag. Losing sexual attraction when a man blows on a hot drink has nothing to do with safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:55 PM
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Nah, you’re conflating “the ick” with a genuine red flag. Losing sexual attraction after seeing a man running with a backpack is not a matter of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 10:53 PM
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The algorithms control us because they are us. The social media companies are all in competition to maximize user engagement; outrage content has proven to be the most reliable path to that goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:48 PM
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Those are turnoffs, not examples of “the ick.” “The ick” is when a trivial, innocent behavior (e.g. running with a backpack, a goofy sounding sneeze, blowing on a hot drink) disqualifies the entire package early-ish in the dating process.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/26 07:43 PM
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Nah, thinking mode GPT is very useful for this type of analysis. No one would ever take the time to do this manually, and if they did the results would inevitably plagued by human error.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 10:13 PM
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I meant a scenario like when you’re hosting a party and your friend’s wife/girlfriend invites her horny single friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 04:53 AM
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I disagree with you often, but this is 100% correct and IMO the #1 comment that OP (and any other self-identified blackpiller) should take home from this thread. /u/AssertiveTarsier: you greatly underestimate the share of hookups that "just happen" between friends of friends and casual acquaintances. The bar is substantially lower here than online. Luck is always a factor but you create your own luck through persistent exposure to social settings.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 01:09 AM
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How many heterosexual women have you pulled for ONS?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:46 AM
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The English language 4B subreddit alone has 45k+ followers. And reddit isn't even a primary platform for these groups.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/26 09:11 PM
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I'm with you. This is harmless boomer humor.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/08/26 03:57 PM
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I think the other social media famous red pill guys are more into women-as-conquest type benevolent misogynists or clout chasing performance artists like Tate No one can read minds but Myron just uniquely radiates bitterness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 04:25 AM
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Myron is a clown. He’s the one mainstream RP guy you can obviously tell actually hates women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 12:27 AM
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For anyone who still believes that TikTok misandrists are unrepresentative and that the "good, intersectional feminists" support men, please take some time and look at how these issues are discussed in respectable, highly-moderated feminist spaces like /r/AskFeminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 05:25 PM
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Just read /r/Teachers for a bit and you'll realize that many adult professional women truly believe that they are oppressed by their male students.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/26 02:31 PM
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It is clearly labeled inside the sexual violence period. Therefore, the image considers body shaming to be a form of sexual violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 07:13 AM
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This is gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 06:05 AM
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You gave an anecdote that suggested it was much more common from men. I replied with a study that found it was actually more common from women. Do you not understand the relevance? You were going back and forth trading anecdotes, so I commented to share an actual study on the topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:08 AM
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It’s not even a niche view among serious feminists. See Dr. Sally Gearhart, who wrote: “The Future–-If There Is One–-is Female": I) Every culture must begin to affirm a female future. II) Species responsibility must be returned to women in every culture. III) The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:04 AM
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Idk if a call for the systemic reduction of a specific population is really that distinct from a call for genocide
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 01:00 AM
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“Ehh we don’t know who does more violent crime. Could be men, could be women. In my experience it’s women performing armed robberies.” “Hey, why are you correcting me with stats? I said that men commit violent crime too! Can’t you read?”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:27 AM
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Thankfully it’s not your decision to make
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:11 AM
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Can you cite some examples of the phrase “boys will be boys” being used in western society to downplay sexual violence? I found one US example from the 1980s and one (widely condemned) example from India in 2014. Yet people repeatedly claim that it’s a pervasive sentiment in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/26 12:04 AM
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So what’s the answer? Leave men to “their true nature”? We wouldn’t want to subject them to institutional oppression, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:43 PM
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Sounds like the conservative argument for traditional gender roles and the nuclear family structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 10:29 PM
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BPers conceded the gym/physique point because it was too undeniable. But read posts on this topic from 5+ years back, and the BP consensus was: “Muscles are for impressing other men; the gym only helps with dating by making you more confident.” That line became too tough to defend post-Covid, so instead now we get: “No shit a fit body helps with dating—everyone knows that. How stupid are you that you needed RP advice to tell you to lift?”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:55 PM
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So what should the legal consequences be for a woman who inflicts “sexual violence” by body shaming a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 09:40 PM
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'Boys don't cry': Study suggests mothers, not fathers, show gender bias towards sons. Article is based on this study, which states: “Findings suggest that mothers, but not fathers, may possess gender-related implicit biases about emotion expression in children, with implications for socialization practices.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 07:00 PM
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I wish you were this incredulous of the libslop videos you constantly post as rebuttals. Sure, the tens of thousands of online anons discussing dating experiences are all lying. Every single field report is 100% bullshit. No chud has ever had consensual sex. The millions of women who voted Trump were all forced to do so by their incel husbands. You know who really has all the answers? Some popular BreadTuber you watch who says that young men have been tricked by the patriarchy and simply need to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:15 PM
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This is the actual issue that needs to be addressed by the people who want to “stop the spread of the manosphere.” It was a total unforced error to cede common sense men’s dating/sex advice to right wing populists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:47 PM
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Oh yeah, a vanilla woman is totally filling her bookshelves with BDSM smut purely out of intellectual curiosity. Listen to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:54 PM
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Reddit has nearly a billion users; it’s not niche. And you can find the exact same sentiments on Instagram and TikTok regularly clearing 100k+ likes. Good luck finding a comparable flat earth contingent on any social media platform. No point continuing this. Anyone with a shred of intellectual integrity would be embarrassed to defend such a dishonest comparison. You’re either mendacious or you have an incorrect model of the world which you refuse to update.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:30 PM
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It’s partly the dissonance of being told that you’re an oppressor as a boy at an age when every authority figure in your life is a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:24 PM
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Unfortunately the mods have decided to let the sub be ruled by bad faith Top 1% Commenters. In fairness, the Lift_and_Lurk, Soloandwookie, and LilithOfBabylon types do drive substantial activity with their inflammatory threads and arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 02:19 PM
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“People are judged by their actions.” When men do this to women, it’s called “misogyny.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:32 PM
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There’s an obvious difference. Go on basically any major subreddit and find a post about “male loneliness” or “sexually unsuccessful young men. Almost certainly, there will be several top comments with thousands of upvotes saying: “sexually unsuccessful men have no one but themselves to blame for not working on their bad personalities.” There is no comparable analogue to this with flat earthers.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:29 PM
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preach
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:15 PM
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Don’t bother with Lift_and_Lurk. He’s just here to stroke his own ego and soak up compliments from the Blue Pill Women Top 1% Commenters on this sub. He refuses to concede any common ground even if it requires him to defend absurdities. Just a waste of time to engage with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 10:12 PM
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No, this is unhealthy. We shouldn’t accept harmful generalizations about any demographic. This is identical to how racists justify their bigotry: “I don’t hate black people, I hate ****. The ones who act right know that I’m not referring to them.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/26 09:41 PM
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Sometimes it’s fun to watch the mental gymnastics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:29 PM
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Nah this is idealistic and doesn’t map on to reality. Strength does enable kindness, because kindness is only unconditional when it comes from a position of strength. Size matters. A feminine man can throw a punch. A woman can also throw a punch. And yet, for some reason, basically every bouncer and bodyguard is a large, masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:28 PM
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I was skeptical, but this is actually a high quality study. It’s solid evidence against the “ovulatory cycle shift” narrative popular in evopsych.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 10:16 PM
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You never even made a point. You just said it’s misogynistic. Imagine the dynamic was flipped and men were as status sensitive as women when vetting romantic partners. We’d never hear the end of how men uphold oppressive expectations while women are pure souls who love men just as they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 08:06 PM
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Would it be less misogynistic if he filled out the list with a bunch of immutable personality traits that are required to maintain attraction? “A true woman respecter catches the ick when his girlfriend acts weak or insecure. He’s not shallow like those other guys.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:41 PM
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That goes both ways. Women haven’t exactly been covering themselves with glory with how they discuss hot (and less hot) guys online. And no, it’s not just fringe randoms and Russian bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:35 PM
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Humanities academia has absolutely been highjacked by ideologues. These fields are not rigorous. They largely do not produce replicable findings. It’s institutional laundering for progressive ideology.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/26 09:41 PM
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Isn’t that a bad thing from a feminist lens? Shouldn’t we encourage liberal men to unpack the patriarchal beliefs that lead them to perform benevolent sexism?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:47 PM
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“If you found college easy, you didn’t go to a good college.” For most elite college programs, the hardest part is getting admitted. Ivy Plus undergrads especially have seen enormous grade inflation over the past decades, which they have just started to push back against.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 08:40 PM
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No, it can just be a mild effect. The original study was on “weakly affiliated Democrats.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 05:00 AM
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Yes. Or that they see conservative parties as a threat to their well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 03:32 AM
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Can you think of some other reason why trans men wouldn’t become more conservative after transitioning?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:17 AM
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PPD mods need to do something about LilithOfBabylon and Soloandthewookie. They dominate this sub with regular bait posts and consistently engage in bad faith. They then refuse to concede any point, so their threads inevitably end up being 0% light and 100% heat.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:07 PM
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Absolutely, he has cause to be upset. Her asking to go through his phone is an admission that she distrusts him. It’s the exact same dynamic as a man asking his wife for a paternity test: relationship-damaging but private and not criminal. Compare this with a false rape accusation: the woman knowingly fabricates an incident in a public and/or legal setting. She’s not expressing suspicion about his behavior; she’s fabricating an event. The accused faces serious legal and reputational consequences…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 10:24 PM
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Hmm I suppose. But even in that case, it’s still at minimum an accusation of criminal negligence. Here’s a closer comparison: A woman notices her husband acting distant and going out late at night. She confronts him and asks to go through his phone. Is she falsely accusing him of infidelity? If it turns out he’s innocent, does she owe him damages?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 07:59 PM
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Who could have imagined? Another Soloandthewookie thread where he makes an inflammatory claim, refuses to debate it in good faith, and then struts away like he just delivered a masterclass in owning the RPers with facts and logic. Maybe add in a couple supportive/circlejerk comments from the rotating cast of Top 1% Commenter Blue Pill Women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:32 PM
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No it isn’t! A rape accusation is (almost always) an affirmative claim about a specific incident. You don’t say “I’m suspicious that my partner raped me without my knowledge at some point in time.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:26 PM
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If a man privately accuses his wife of cheating, what social consequences has he inflicted upon her?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:20 PM
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If a woman asks her partner for an STI test before having unprotected sex, is she falsely accusing him of trying to give her an STI?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 05:18 PM
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If a woman asks her partner for an STI test before having unprotected sex, is she baselessly accusing him of trying to give her an STI?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 02:51 AM
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Asking for a paternity test is not a “false accusation.” With a false accusation, the accuser knowingly fabricates a specific incident. Asking for a paternity test is more like asking to go through your partner’s phone to search for evidence of infidelity. It’s an expression of mistrust and suspicion; but that’s different from a false accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 11:53 PM
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“Socio-sexual value” is different from “value as a human being.”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 08:01 PM
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You seriously underestimate the amount of men who excuse misandry because they (correctly) believe that calling it out is perceived as low status and chud-coded
/r/EverydayMisandry11/07/26 05:15 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 09:22 PM
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For one, women who live in developing countries will likely price a higher premium on their partner’s financial stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 08:29 PM
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Okay but a short nerdy white guy with a stable job is like the stereotypical PPB. He’s still “below average” in the western dating market because financial stability is less of a selling point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:28 PM
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Maybe the chubby hairstylist should work on her fitness and personality. No one is entitled to a relationship, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:24 PM
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Probably not. The difference can likely be explained by cultural values.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:22 PM
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It is “helping” the average guy who takes the advice. Yes it is selfish. The average guy who struggles with dating would likely benefit from behaving more selfishly. PPB is often a good deal for western guys struggling with dating. It also has unfortunate externalities for the local male populations in these regions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:38 PM
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It’s not his only attractive quality. It could also be that his positive traits (responsible, caring, intelligent) are more valued by Vietnamese women than by American women. Furthermore, he would benefit from exoticism and the shorter average height of Vietnamese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:33 PM
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There are plenty of men who are “below average” on the dating market but still have decent financial resources. Think of a short, nerdy guy working as an accountant, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:17 PM
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You’re correct that it is just kicking the can down the road. But for an American man with the option to PPB, why would we expect him to stay home for the greater good? And what about the Vietnamese women? Do they have no agency? Why can’t they reject the American PPBs in favor of a local man?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:14 PM
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Actually, no you don’t need a peer reviewed source for common sense conclusions. This isn’t about specific numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:20 PM
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I don’t need numbers here. It’s common sense. Every dating app has bot/spam/promo accounts that will swipe right indiscriminately. If you have a lot of human matches, then bot accounts will make up a smaller share of your total matches. If you have few human matches, then bot accounts will make up a larger share of your total matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 07:57 PM
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I think one reason for women’s kneejerk rejection to RP is that it can feel like cheating biology. It’s one thing for a “natural alpha” to understand that society lies about the nature of sex and dating. But when average/awkward guys can learn these dynamics online, it’s tougher to tell if your man is the real deal. And while some average/awkward guys will implement RP tactics to get laid, others will simply check out of the dating scene entirely. Either way, the pool of stable provider men shri…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:57 PM
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The thing to understand about Soloandthewookie is that he doesn’t argue from consistent principles. He thinks it’s unjustified for red pillers to use anecdotal evidence to support their worldview. However, he thinks it is fine for him to do so in support of his beliefs. See: SSC - Beware isolated demands for rigor. He has no interest in seeking truth or common ground. He just wants to flaunt his moral superiority and defend the fair ladies of PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:08 PM
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If an account gets 50 likes after a year of swiping, it’s highly likely that most of those matches are bots/scammers/escorts. If an account gets 500 likes after a year of swiping, it’s highly likely that most of those matches are humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:00 PM
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Nah he’s just a former incel who found a woman and is now convinced he’s got dating and sex entirely figured out. He’s not lonely. He’s not trolling. He’s just a dishonest midwit who thinks he’s a lot more clever and perceptive than he actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:55 PM
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Except you’re not “believing women and men.” You’re selectively believing women but not men. Your beliefs change with the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 02:48 PM
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I don’t want to get in trouble, so I’ll drop this line of debate. All the best with your transition journey though, genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:46 PM
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“One comment from a bitter online random is not representative of the broader societal narrative.” “It’s probably just ragebait or a bot campaign to make incels look bad.” “Okay but that’s just your hurt feelings vs. their lifetimes of rejection and solitude. Have some empathy!” “It’s not that you can’t have your opinion. It’s just that your opinion is commonly held by bad people. Many incel experts believe your views contribute to harmful stereotypes against a vulnerable community.” Did I cover…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 09:38 PM
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Are they not already? Has our society told women not to comment on the plights of incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 08:17 PM
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It’s so cute how you blatantly lie about things we’ve all seen. Enormous mainstream subs like 2X have regular threads seething about men. Misandrytok vids get hundreds of thousands of likes. You gotta update your excuses: “It’s just venting.” “It’s just ragebait.” “It’s a natural response to living in a patriarchy.” “Misogyny kills, misandry embarrasses.” “Women are oppressed so it’s different.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:57 PM
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Does your revealed preference not support his point? You went out of your way to trade male expectations for female expectations. And that’s in spite of extra costs like dealing with hormones and transphobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:44 PM
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Does this work in both directions? Are you telling feminist women that they have no right to comment on male privilege?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:40 PM
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I agree it's not the fault of the woman. But I would argue that this is a common experience (before age ~35) even among well-adjusted men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:34 PM
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Your stance is that a woman coming between male friendship is a fictional trope? Or that it only happens to “chumps”?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:25 PM
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Sure some people will always complain, but that isn’t a good reason to alienate the men in the middle who are onboard for a collaborative feminism but reject its divisive modern forms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 08:32 PM
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Yeah there’s several nice BP women here. Just largely not the Top 1% Commenter types.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:57 PM
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I understand that you would rather sacrifice thousands of lives (including innocent women and children) to a manufactured war than have to settle for your looksmatch. That mainly tells me you are privileged enough to be ignorant to the horrors of war. Fortunately it will be never be your (or my) decision to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:33 PM
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I’m all for ideas like plastic surgery vouchers for the romantically successful. It at least has the potential to be productive here, even if it won’t solve everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:26 PM
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If an authoritarian leader wants to retain power, it is much easier to do so by offering low status men a path to intimacy through supporting the regime. It would be substantially more difficult to “just send all the undesirable men to labor camps.” And the resulting power dynamic would be significantly less stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:18 PM
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You need to understand that a society can collectively restrict the rights of women in a way that could never happen to “men.” In your hypothetical where men’s rights are restricted, who is enforcing these laws? It doesn’t matter who is in the right here morally. The difference is simply practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 07:06 PM
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Right. We all know the US military is staffed by sex-having male feminists champing at the bit to put those incel chuds in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:53 PM
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Kinda crazy to see how liberal/lefty women would rather call for war than acknowledge young male grievances. Aren’t women the primary victims of war? You think you’d be more concerned with the consequences of what you’re suggesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:50 PM
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Obviously it would be a balancing act like any other form of redistribution. Even authoritarian leaders still need to appease their subjects.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:45 PM
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Tax money doesn’t magically keep essential services running. You still need actual workers willing to show up and do the job. And if you significantly reduce the male population, labor costs will rise in response. So you will need even more tax revenues to accomplish the same results.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:34 PM
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Because powerful men are always greatly outnumbered by loser men. If the men in power are too greedy, they risk an uprising. It is much easier to placate the low status men by sharing a little than it is to “just start a war and hope the losers sign up to die.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 06:27 PM
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The men in power would give losers most of the women to placate them and secure their position of power. However, they would also keep the most attractive women for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:45 PM
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So the plan is to have the US military round up sexually unsuccessful men and put them in camps? And of course the military will be staffed entirely by progressive feminist sex-havers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:41 PM
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No those are two unrelated points.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:42 AM
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One last time: Yes or no, excluding sex workers, has a woman ever consented to sex with any of the following individuals: Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Kanye West, Charlie Sheen, John Mayer, Russell Brand, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan. If your answer is yes for any of these, do you believe that the man would never brag about the encounter afterwards? Hint: some of these men have publicly bragged about their sexual encounters. So unless you’re gonna claim that John Mayer is a lying virgin, it appears…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:42 AM
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Yes it is just gossip, don’t worry about it. Tbh if I had to bet my life, I’d say 65% likely. Also, since you already don’t believe me: my wealthy uncle is his neighbor in Cabo, so I have actually interacted with him (briefly). Friendly guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:26 AM
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Maybe you should try r/Fauxmoi
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:12 AM
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I don’t feel like litigating this, but if you’re actually interested you can find tons of insider gossip on LeBron’s party life (including a famous boat party blowout with Kylie Irving’s girl). Obviously gotta be careful when evaluating these things, but the general vibe I remember getting was that it wasn’t exactly seen as a well-kept secret. If you want a cleaner example: Kendrick Lamar and his longtime fiancée Whitney Alford.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 12:10 AM
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Did what? Was some part of your comment directed at me?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:58 PM
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It’s disappointing that instead of answering my simple yes/no questions, you pull the “oh who cares anyway you loser.” It’s pathetic coming from maybe the single most active Top 1% Commenter on this subreddit. You obviously know this line of argument is making you look dumb or dishonest, which is why you have to obfuscate with a random screenshot of Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:50 PM
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I agree that having a reputation for discretion is helpful for getting laid. But that’s not enough to stop a lot of guys from bragging about real occasions in which they pulled. It’s human nature. Yes or no, excluding sex workers, has a woman ever consented to sex with any of the following individuals: Donald J. Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Elon Musk, Pete Hegseth? If your answer is yes, do you think that none of these men would brag about the encounter afterwards?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 11:35 PM
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Again, this is your “noble savage” view of successful, high status men. People are individuals. Yes, many high status men are secure and keep to themselves. But plenty of immature assholes make it to the top as well through domain-specific talents or birthright. Like how does your worldview square with the existence of Donald J. Trump? He’s the most powerful and most famous man on the planet, so I guess that means he must have the most secure ego of us all. And while he’s old now, do you really …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 09:40 PM
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You’re doing this “noble savage” thing for high status, sexually successful men. You have to understand that a man can achieve enormous status through success in their field based on traits that have nothing to do with his character. Look at Lawrence Taylor or Tyreek Hill. Successful men with options still want ego validation. They still feel insecurity. Many are emotionally underdeveloped because they were so tunnel-visioned on their career. And yes, I do in fact believe that the son of the mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 08:30 PM
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Dudes that pull absolutely still brag. Wilt Chamberlain bragged all the time about all the women he slept with. Is that because he was secretly a virgin loser? Every rapper brags about all the pussy they get. Maybe you should let Drake know that sexually successful men don’t do that. And those guys at least earned it. What about nepo babies and men who inherited their status? Do you think Donald Trump Jr. was a perfect gentleman after he had sex with a fashion model for the first time? You’re go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:39 PM
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Average and median stats for a generation don’t really tell us anything about the numbers at the top though. And even in your first link, it shows 28.3% of men age 25-49 report 15+ partners. That undercuts the “most men are struggling” narrative, but it also undercuts the point you’re arguing in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 05:06 PM
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What does “lifetime average sexual partners” prove here? This discussion was strictly about the top 1-5% of men (depending on the cutoff for “Chad” status).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:58 PM
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Is it unthinkable that a similar dynamic would exist at the next level down? The local DJ, the former D1 athlete, the popular rich kid, the male model, the charismatic sociopath, etc. Also, Giselle was unfaithful but she never had a harem. She moved from Brady to the new guy. And now she’s with the new guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:49 PM
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Rich, powerful men have had harems throughout all of history. Athletes, musicians, and actors are notoriously unfaithful or have one-way-open relationships (e.g. LeBron James) with their wives. Everyone knows this. Why is it so important for you to pretend like this is crazy and unfounded?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:42 PM
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This comment, like so many of your comments on this sub, is a thinly veiled ego-stroking exercise. It’s so funny how you see yourself as this alpha male statesman protecting the fair ladies of PPD and showing those dumb Zoomer boys how a real man supports feminism. But really, you’re the Gen X guy who smirks and thinks: “Still got it,” when the young waitress smiles at you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 04:37 PM
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Reddit is even worse with hidden post histories and busybody power mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:16 AM
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On Twitter you can at least view post histories and countries of origin. Reddit with hidden histories is the perfect environment for bots.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:15 AM
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Go to a feminist or academic humanities space and suggest a biological basis for behavioral differences between sexes. You’ll get shut down for promoting “bioessentialism.”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 01:04 AM
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Do you think there’s more incels or feminists in the world? Incels are even less homogeneous than feminists given that there’s no necessary beliefs required to be an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:28 AM
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She’s not blue pill. She’s “pink pill”—the belief that women should be liberated from traditional gender roles while men should still be expected to uphold their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:31 PM
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Okay so it’s fair for me to redefine “feminist” as “female supremacist.” I’ve seen enough behavior by prominent feminists that fits the bill. Sorry, you have to accept my new definition now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:28 PM
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This is such a childish worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:26 PM
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Most of my friends are married or are in a long-term relationship. Approximately one of them would say they treat their wife/gf “like a normal person.” They love their partners, but they understand that hetero dating for men requires them to perform certain traditional gender roles. “Invisible labor,” if you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:21 PM
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I was referring to the church on earth, with all of its human flaws and foibles
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 04:20 AM
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If you’re getting with Andrew Tate in 2022 or later, you’re not a victim. Before that, I agree some women were victimized.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 03:24 AM
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There are women publicly dating and being burned by Andrew Tate in 2026. They understand what they are getting into. Millions of women thirst over Chris Brown in 2026. They aren’t being deceived to think that he’s actually a nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:18 AM
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Yeah just like the Church is all for free inquiry as long as the conclusions align with its doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:31 PM
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“Hypergamy” fine I get it. “Dating market” is absolutely fine in polite company. But let’s be real, it’s not about the specific terms. It’s an instinctive repulsion to men taking a systemic approach to thinking about dating and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:29 PM
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Everything in life is “luck.” You make your own luck by putting yourself in the best position to capitalize on opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:05 PM
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This is not true. On most subreddits, even mentioning the concept of a “dating market” or “hypergamy” is a fast track to being dogpiled with downvotes and “found the incel” comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:04 PM
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This is a good reply and a healthy mindset.
/r/seduction10/05/26 11:29 PM
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The second most popular podcast in the world? The number one podcast with women? The podcast that Kamala Harris went on for her presidential campaign? Am I supposed to write that off as unrepresentative?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:03 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html# “Findings show women under 30 are three times as likely to hold a negative view of men compared to the other way around”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:36 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html# “Findings show women under 30 are three times as likely to hold a negative view of men compared to the other way around”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:35 AM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html# “Findings show women under 30 are three times as likely to hold a negative view of men compared to the other way around”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:34 AM
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Any thoughts on /r/4bmovement ? Seems like they sure complain about men a lot for a group based on “decentering men”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:48 PM
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RP worked for me 🤷‍♂️ I’m just here because I wasted years as a male feminist trying to “just treat women like people” and then watching in confusion as they gradually lost attraction. I eventually bit the bullet and tried the RP approach…and it just worked. And even the times it didn’t work, I at least had a framework for understanding what went wrong. As I said elsewhere, the RP approach is cynical and manipulative. I wish it didn’t work. But in the words of Marlo from The Wire: “You want it t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:44 PM
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Name some examples of what you consider to be authentic feminist media. Otherwise you can just dismiss any example as unrepresentative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:31 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/women-men-femosphere-new-statesman-poll-b2958208.html# “Findings show women under 30 are three times as likely to hold a negative view of men compared to the other way around”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:26 PM
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Okay so your friend has two options: a) be a “good person” and live a life of chastity while watching (many) girls chase socially dominant bad boys, or b) arm himself with manipulative RP tactics so that he can be the cavalier asshole who can play women (and perhaps pivot into a relationship with the right one). Don’t get me wrong: option A is morally admirable. Option B is socially destructive at scale. But for a romantically unsuccessful young man, this is what the incentives look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 04:24 PM
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Yeah? No shit there’s many people who have happy, successful relationships without ever knowing about RP. It’s probably a majority of men; it includes several of my friends as well. But there’s a growing minority of men for whom the traditional BP approach was unsuccessful, so they turn to outside guidance like red pill and black pill content. The issue is you acting like the world is split up into a) feminist Blue Pillers in happy relationships and b) hateful incels who only struggle because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:53 PM
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You can literally watch an episode of Call Her Daddy and see women candidly affirming the “made up manosphere nonsense”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:43 PM
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It’s not diabolical to acknowledge dark biological realities. It’s more diabolical to pretend like those biological tendencies don’t exist and that it’s all “socially constructed.”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:33 PM
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So when can we expect the follow-up post about it happening in the other direction?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:32 PM
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You can say this but it doesn’t make it true. And when young men see BPers like you pretending that the slander is only ever targeted at over misogynists, they add it to the pile of evidence that you’re not concerned with their best interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 03:26 PM
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Basically everyone can put on 1-2 points by getting fit and losing weight. People be fat
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 01:29 AM
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No, you’re just bitter and hurt. I understand that—the world isn’t fair; women and BPers will gaslight you about the nature of dating and sexual attraction. But you’re lashing out at someone who is actually being constructive and honest with you. Save your vitriol for one of the bad faith BPers in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:59 AM
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Look at my comment history and tell me with a straight face that I don’t stand up for men enough. I’m agreeing with kmb218 here because she is correct in this case and I care about the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 03:52 AM
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You’re cooking in this thread. Super reasonable and levelheaded comments. One of the best BPers I’ve seen here in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:32 AM
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Nah, she’s being reasonable here. Sexual overperception bias for men is a well documented finding. It also makes sense intuitively for biological reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 02:27 AM
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OP was nothing but respectful with his post and comes across as a kind, thoughtful person. In comparison, your reply here just makes you seem needlessly bitter and cruel.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 04:33 AM
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All of a sudden anecdotes are valid? Marriage rates under 40 are declining hard. (Source: Pew)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:59 PM
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I didn’t say “all.” I said “even if,” which implies not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:18 PM
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You didn’t do that lmao. You just said they were wrong (even when they were correct).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:52 PM
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13 year old girls chase after the popular boys, even if those boys are bullies and assholes. 25 year old women chase after hot, high status men, even if those men are bullies and assholes. It’s the exact same dynamic. Yes as adults we see 13 year old girls as children, but to a 13 year old boy that’s his counterpart on the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:47 PM
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Camille Paglia?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:27 PM
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They exist. Kanye is notorious for his porn addiction. Also there’s an interview of Drake where he says he watches a lot of porn, especially of girls giving head. That seems crazy to me since he can literally have the real thing at any time with zero effort. But I guess it just fulfills a different need for him 🤷‍♂️
/r/seduction03/04/26 11:36 PM
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There were tons of articles about millennials killing industries, but no one said that millennials were killing nightlife. It's not even Gen Z specifically in this case; it's the state of the industry post-Covid. People are going out less and drinking less alcohol. Business models don't always "shift and adapt." Some industries just die. Like, sure there will always be a couple bars and clubs, but the industry is in serious crisis mode since 2020. I’m not arguing some broader point here. I’m jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 05:04 AM
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Co-ed soccer is great for meeting women. It's fun and the physical exertion makes it so much easier to break the ice. Hard to feel anxious when you're so exhausted.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:59 AM
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Clubs and bars are absolutely dying. There's tons of articles about it. The business model is sustained entirely by alcohol sales and people, especially young people, are drinking less. That said, there's still plenty of options if you like dance music; specialty clubs and raves are going strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:55 AM
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Not getting pregnant, not having periods. Stronger, faster, more athletic. Less disruptive hormones.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:59 PM
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This would be a stronger argument without the point about pregnancy. Average men do have advantages, but they almost exclusively stem from biology. A more defensible argument would be that average men aren’t advantaged by society and government.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:39 PM
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This is literally just arguing in bad faith. You made a positive claim (“red pillers are so chronically single”) with weak anecdotal evidence. Then when called out, you retreated to a negative claim (“I don’t have to prove that red pill doesn’t work”). Then when the other guy makes a claim based on anecdote, you reject it for weak evidence while pretending like your anecdotal claim still stands. It’s infuriating to read because you are pathologically opposed to conceding even the smallest point.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:51 PM
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Bro “Even if…” was in reference to a story that meets your specific criteria for evidence. It doesn’t mean that those examples don’t exist. It means that you specifically reject them because you believe any RP success story is fundamentally impossible. There’s literally thousands of RP “field reports” online telling detailed stories about pulling women. I have my own experiences here as well. You’re not going to convince me that my own life history never happened, so don’t bother. The most you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:51 PM
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Even if the stories were detailed enough for your tastes, we both know you would just say that they’re lying. What do you think that documentary proves? That Sneako and Marlon are insecure clowns? Because yeah, obviously they are. I wish they didn’t have an audience. But I can honestly say that posts from Rollo, Heartiste, and Pook really helped me out with dating and sex. I have several irl friends who can say the same. I have no reason to lie about this, and it seems like your objections are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:54 PM
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Are you unable to see the comments in this thread? There’s like ten top comments here sharing their stories of it working.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 04:22 AM
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Like 95% of the replies to OP are saying that RP content did help them get laid and improved their relationships with women. Yet you’ll ignore all that and pretend to care about “struggling men being scammed.” It’s funny to see how no amount of evidence can make a dent in your worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 03:50 AM
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This is why you have a hard time dating. Why make it personal? I said nothing about dating specifically and was talking about population-level trends in education, employment, suicide, and (yes) dating/sex. I have no doubt you get laid regularly. You do public stand-up comedy in the nude, which means you’re top 99.9% uninhibited and probably have a big flaccid size. You’re also willing to chubby chase and then post photos hooking up on your public IG. No shade intended here. Your boldness is adm…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 08:37 PM
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I agree they’re not a “leftist” company but they are certainly sympathetic to progressive left ideology on social issues and unwilling to tolerate open dissent (see James Damore).
/r/MensRights15/03/26 08:17 PM
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I love how over the last decade we’ve seen the blue pill narrative migrate from “a pot for every lid” to “no one owes you shit; shut up and die alone.” I say this unironically. It’s a good thing that we’re moving closer to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 08:12 PM
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Muslim men get labelled as "dangerous" just for having beards lol okay Also your example from a single female retail employee tells us literally nothing about the right wing as a whole
/r/MensRights15/03/26 08:06 PM
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100%. Be a ruthless opportunist, not a political loyalist. Make them earn your vote.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 08:04 PM
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We moved significantly left on social issues over the past 40 years and the results have been disastrous for men. Even worse, the response from the institutional left has been to downplay and obfuscate these emerging problems.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 08:03 PM
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You’re doing the thing where you pretend like “the left” exclusively refers to anticapitalists, which is absolutely not how most people use the term in modern discourse
/r/MensRights15/03/26 07:58 PM
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I think men should be shameless opportunists willing to jump over to whichever side does a better job of pandering to their interests.
/r/MensRights15/03/26 07:54 PM
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Without getting into which side is better for men, I completely reject your second paragraph. No other demographic is expected to deprioritize their own interests for the sake of “empathy.”
/r/MensRights15/03/26 07:51 PM
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I have to admit when I saw how she looks and the fact she is a psychologist I was sure it would be your average misandristic fest, but I was throughly proven wrong Lol I went through the same process. Tbh I feel like the way she presents herself gives her more leeway to advocate against academic dogma.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 12:21 AM
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Thanks for sharing. For those who don’t know her, Dr. Owens is the rare institutional figure who is actually on our side.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/03/26 12:16 AM
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Not true in 2026. The modern right is a coalition of people who oppose the left. There’s surprisingly little shared ideology beyond that, for better or worse.
/r/MensRights12/03/26 08:05 PM
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Conspiracy brain. But if the songs are so bad, why would they steal them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 05:14 PM
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Billie Eilish is a bad person but she has some good songs. Her brother Finneas is a talented producer.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/03/26 04:58 PM
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You’re really winning me over, man. Snatching the belt for best BP-adjacent poster on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 03:18 PM
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The issue with highlighting the extreme estimates as you did instead of sticking with the defensible 3.7% median is that the entire conversation will inevitably centre on debating the numbers rather than the actual issue. And if you look at this thread, that’s exactly what happened. It’s entirely unproductive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:40 AM
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I mean the median rate from your link is 3.7%. You’re running around this thread saying 18%, which is a much less defensible estimate. Intuitively that number feels far too high, so people are going to reject your claims outright. You’re better off sticking with 3.7% to make your point. That’s still an alarmingly high risk. We arrange our lives to avoid risks that are far more remote.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:30 PM
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No it’s not. Your stats are incorrect. Paternity fraud is estimated to occur in around 2-4% of total pregnancies. The 1-in-5 number comes from the share of total paternity tests administered. I think paternity fraud is a serious issue (even 1 in 50 is a big risk), but it’s important to get your numbers straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 11:16 PM
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I can agree that some feminists have been good on this issue (looking at Norway, Sweden, Denmark). But by far the most common sentiment I hear from feminists on male-only conscription is just “no one should be conscripted.” Yeah that sounds nice, but in practice there’s a reason every country has conscription: sometimes it’s necessary. How much feminist opposition has there been against Ukrainian males being conscripted to die in the war? Read some threads on /r/AskFeminists on the topic. At bes…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:34 PM
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Wow a random woman who identifies as a feminist on Quora said that she opposes the draft! That matters way more than the actual revealed priorities of institutional feminists, who have largely avoided the issue entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:13 PM
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I didn’t use ChatGPT to write it lol. I used it to source studies based on robustness of evidence. Bro you’re arguing against human nature and common sense here. Even your AI rebuttal doesn’t dispute the heritability of traits; it just says that the science isn’t at the point where we a father can point to the specific genes being passed down. You’re taking that to say we should just assume a blank slate instead of accepting the intuitive understanding that parents pass down many distinct geneti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:16 PM
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Big Five personality traits are 40-60% heritable. Intelligence is estimated to be 20-60% heritable. Physical traits like height, obesity-related traits, longevity, and predisposition to psychiatric disorders are all 50-80% heritable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:56 PM
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Are you arguing that parental genetics have zero impact on children? You’re fighting against common sense and the widespread scientific consensus here.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:28 PM
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Thanks! So I guess it’d only be rational for feminists to downplay men’s issues, since legitimizing male victimhood would cut into the whole oppressor-oppressed thing you have going.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:36 PM
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Why would men want to be victims? Is there some benefit to being perceived as a victim in society?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:29 PM
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Flat earth isn’t censored anywhere. Nazism is, but that’s a bit of a special case because of historical context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:28 PM
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When did any of that happen? 2XC is an enormous sub with 13M+ members and has never been banned. The Sprinkle Sprinkle lady has a successful social media platform and a book deal and has received positive coverage in mainstream media.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:24 PM
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Lmao thanks for the heads up to not take your opinions seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:18 PM
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I don’t know how you could believe this after seeing the propaganda on this site leading up to the 2024 election.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 05:09 PM
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A common example is any story where a guy talks about his gf/wife losing interest / catching the ick after he expressed vulnerability. Or similarly, any time a guy with a small dick complains about being ghosted after getting intimate. Or even when a man with a visible disability talks about his struggles with dating. All the comments will be saying “oh only shallow women are like that; she’s just immature; she just has mental health issues; the right woman wouldn’t care.” It comes across as def…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:17 AM
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“Four blog posts” and it’s an incredibly well-studied and widely-cited finding in psychology research.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 12:02 AM
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That’s certainly true of many RP men. But the most common RP archetype is the sensitive young man who took third-wave feminism seriously and got burned by the realities of sex and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:42 AM
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?? That’s a description not a prescription.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 03:04 AM
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Idk what your perception of red pill is if you think it means “believing that women will love you no matter how much you hate them.” TRP is more “men love idealistically, women love opportunistically”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 12:20 AM
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I get where you’re coming from but it’s not that straightforward. The boundary between RP and BP has blurred substantially in recent years (post-OLD boom) as less objectionable RP tenets have been integrated in mainstream advice. If you read threads from a decade ago in this sub and others (like r/dating and r/relationship_advice), you’ll see a much more pure version of the blue pill being promoted. Back then, the common refrain was “women don’t care about muscles; the gym is only for impressing…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 09:51 PM
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So what’s the plan when the fascist is tall and good looking?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 12:01 AM
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Where have you seen RWers using “spiritually Israeli” as a compliment? The groyper right hates Israel and even the pro-Israel establishment faction couches their support in “Israel’s right to defend itself.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 11:19 PM
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If RWers were using “spiritually Israeli” as a go-to insult, would you defend them against allegations of antisemitism?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/01/26 11:10 PM
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I don’t think Tom Brady is particularly agreeable. He’s probably autistic though, which doesn’t help.
/r/BlackPillScience24/12/25 11:54 PM
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This would be more defensible if the programs were directed towards American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS). As it stands, the primary beneficiaries of DEI policies are white women and wealthy immigrants of color. It’s not a level playing field when there are explicit policies in place that make it harder for white men to get hired and promoted.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 04:05 AM
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So it’s not happening but it’s a good thing. You’re doing all sorts of mental gymnastics because you can’t admit that the chuds were right on this topic.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 02:54 AM
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Medieval Jews were pushed out of many fields and were forced to work in banking. It worked out well for them financially. It was still wrong to discriminate against them. Similarly, a white man who was locked out of a creative field or academia will often end up making more money from a job in the trades or tech sales. Nonetheless, he would still be considered a victim of discrimination.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 09:16 PM
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It’s not even their offspring who are primarily affected. There’s still opportunities for the nepo sons of executives.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 09:12 PM
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Yes. For example, Biden passed this executive order “to advance racial justice and equity” on his first day in office. Asset managers like Blackrock linked borrowing costs to “sustainability targets” like a company’s “Black, African American, Hispanic and Latino Employment Rate” and its “Female Leadership Rate.” Powerful old white men are happy to screw over younger white men to secure their own position. It’s not their sons who will bear the costs, since their children have connections. There’s…
/r/MensRights22/12/25 08:57 PM
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White men in power are under pressure from the government and activists to diversify their industries. Rather than give up their own seat at the table, they just pulled the ladder up for the younger generation of white men entering the field.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 05:34 AM
1

Insane take in 2025. A-list celebrities, pro athletes, musicians, and models are on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:01 PM
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The author, Jacob Savage, is literally Jewish
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 02:08 AM
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It is still considered a newspaper of record. I can’t find any information saying that’s no longer the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/12/25 02:06 AM
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I’m in favor of banning legacy admissions, but you need to be realistic about the downsides. Part of the value proposition of elite colleges is that they connect high-achieving students with well-connected students. Proving nepotism/cronyism in the workforce is practically impossible without Soviet level micromanagement. And authoritarian countries like that inevitably end up with significant nepotism/cronyism in government instead. It’s better to leave it to the free market; if a company is pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:09 AM
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DEI/AA is an explicit policy that can easily be abolished. Nepotism and cronyism are emergent properties of human behavior in an organization. You aren’t ever going to eliminate nepotism or favor-trading, especially in the private sector. Recognizing that doesn’t conflict at all with opposition to DEI programs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:47 AM
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Telegraph is right-leaning but it’s hardly Fox News and it is still considered a newspaper of record. And it’s not like The Guardian would ever report on this story.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/12/25 09:54 PM
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It’s downstream of biology, now reinforced in culture. Men prefer women and women prefer women. Also it’s high status for women to advocate for their gender interests (feminism) and low status for men to advocate for their gender interests (MRA).
/r/MensRights06/12/25 04:31 PM
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The opposite, I’d say, unless you have a really snappy immediate comeback. Otherwise, laugh along, agree and amplify. Talk them up. It signals that you don’t see them as a threat.
/r/seduction30/11/25 05:07 PM
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How do you enforce laws without violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/25 05:53 AM
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You could make the same argument against elective abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 03:45 AM
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The onus should be on the party making a positive affirmation. You can’t definitively “prove” a negative. But some evidence: the gender-equality paradox where the gap in occupation choice is larger in gender-equal societies like Sweden and smaller in oppressive countries like Iran. Also, anyone with life experience and intellectual honesty can see an obvious difference between male- and female-dominated interest groups. Basically every technical hobby is a sausage fest.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:29 PM
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Women under 30 are ahead of men in university admissions (by nearly 2:1 now), relationships, post-graduate employment, and income (in urban areas). They have a substantially lower rate of homelessness and of deaths from suicide and deaths of despair (and the gap has grown significantly since 2010). Until just this past year, the concerns and interests of women have been at the forefront of cultural messaging. Women get preferential admissions and exclusive scholarships for many college programs,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 11:22 PM
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Here’s a chart of pro-choice and pro-life identification over time. As recently as 2019, 51% of women and 49% of men identified as pro-life. Those numbers have shifted substantially since then, but it wasn’t always a gendered issue. And no, I don’t support affirmative action for men in universities. You’re ignoring my point about the balance of “gender parity” initiatives benefitting women substantially. These policies are zero-sum and come at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:13 PM
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Ending slavery is a much clearer moral imperative than “liberation” for western women in 2025. Young men are struggling and have fallen behind their female counterparts in nearly every metric of achievement and well-being. They see that “ending oppression” in 2025 means zero-sum equity initiatives that benefit women in admissions, hiring, and promotions and make their own lives harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 08:00 PM
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Blue states in the US have some of the most permissive abortion laws on the planet. And until very recently, more women than men favored restrictions on abortion. I’m pro-choice, but it’s naive to frame the abortion debate as a black and white issue. As for university applications, it’s true that some admissions officers have reportedly favored male candidates. But this has largely been limited to certain humanities fields where men are especially underrepresented, with few career opportunities …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:46 PM
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That’s fine to say when we’re in a period of abundance, but younger men are struggling and see their female counterparts pulling ahead. Meanwhile, they see institutional policies putting a finger on the scale for the benefit of women. You can call them assholes for prioritizing their own self-interest, but don’t be surprised when they tune you out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:34 PM
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The issue with modern institutional feminism is that it treats all gender disparities as evidence of oppression. It’s not the patriarchy keeping women from equal representation in math and engineering. Men and women just have different interests and inclinations on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:29 PM
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UN’s definition of gender equality only counts metrics where women lag behind. When women are ahead of men, that’s considered equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 07:19 PM
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You think it’s totally implausible that girls are sharing (either knowingly or unknowingly) the top guys?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:21 AM
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So by “debunked” you mean that you reject the data? Pew Research is one of the most reliable pollsters, so it’s funny to see how quick you are to dismiss data that contradicts your priors.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:40 PM
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But they don’t have their cake. That’s what they’re whining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/25 01:59 AM
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The latter is mostly a social conservative because being culturally liberal didn't give them the community or relationships they wanted. This is really insightful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 04:10 PM
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Feminists can read. If anything, they tend to be overeducated.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/25 03:09 PM
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You’re solidly above average looking and going for women significantly less attractive than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 04:11 PM
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Also, male victims of domestic violence are categorized under VAWG in the UK.
/r/MensRights17/06/25 03:00 AM
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Not entirely true. I’m a 6’4” pretty boy but kinda autistic. Growing up, I always had girls expressing interest but I would regularly fumble the ones I liked. TRP blogs like The Rational Male and Chateau Heartiste were extremely relevant to my real life experiences and gave me a framework that improved my results.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:00 AM
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Like in the UK, where they are planning to “decrease the number of women in jail, close women’s prisons, or convert them to male prisons”?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 12:21 AM
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No I see your comments on basically every thread here. You have 140k comment karma. You’re significantly more online than most of the people you insist need to touch grass. And for the most part, boys don’t get redpilled by online influencers. Boys get redpilled by their real life experiences dating women and recognizing incongruity between the societal narrative and what women actually respond to romantically. The typical bluepilled male feminist is an introverted teenager with no sexual experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 03:02 AM
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You’re a top 1% commenter in this sub constantly insisting that everyone who disagrees with you needs to touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 02:04 AM
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Fair enough. He still had a neck tattoo that said “bred for war.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:10 PM
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I think the Swastika tattoo on his cheek might have been a clue
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:58 PM
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The funniest part is that she makes videos talking about feminism, the patriarchy, and toxic masculinity while dating (and getting cheated on by) Central Cee.
/r/MensRights21/04/25 11:04 PM
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Of course that’s true. I’m just saying that even the absolute top guys still get rejected sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 09:51 PM
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To me success is not getting rejected That’s an impossible expectation to hold. Brad Pitt still gets rejected by women. Ronaldo still gets rejected by women. They just get over it and move on to the next one.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 09:07 PM
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Because it's a take so reductive that it doesn't deserve criticism because it is self evidently wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:29 AM
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Because it's a take so reductive that it doesn't deserve criticism because it is self evidently wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:28 AM
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Damn it’s crazy how shamelessly you’re willing to lie to win an argument. Men don’t like feminine women? And it’s so self-evidently true that men don’t like feminine women that it’s beneath you to even explain it? Why do women overwhelmingly prefer tall men? Or are you gonna pretend like that preference doesn’t exist either?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:48 PM
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Get da abortion lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 11:28 PM
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Look at the demographics of Andrew Tate fans: ISD: Of the 1,214 people surveyed from ages 16 through 25, ethnic minorities were more likely to view him positively versus white young people: 41 percent of Black respondents, 31 percent of Asian respondents, 15 percent of white respondents.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:16 PM
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Okay clearly you don’t have a real response. I agree that the term “psy-op” gets thrown around too loosely, but in this case it is warranted. It’s ridiculous that you’re insisting that Tender couldn’t possibly be involved with funding and marketing the same show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:47 AM
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You think a company as big as Netflix isn’t taking funding from all sorts of different government organizations around the world? I really don’t think you understand how businesses operate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:44 AM
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You’re assuming that because Tender is promoting the show then they couldn’t have had anything to do with funding it. Do you understand that makes no sense and you haven’t disproven anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:42 AM
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Lol what? Of course Tender would “join efforts” to promote a series they played a part in funding. That’s just how press releases are written. Organizations always try to make their promotional efforts look organic. By who though? It’s not enough to say it’s try that stabbing have occurred. Most knife crime in the UK is gang-related. The stabbing incident most similar to Adolescence was the Southport stabbings by Axel Rudakubana. His background and history is quite different from that of the sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:40 AM
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Regarding government involvement: Spectator: “The government spent £3.4m funding its promotion and likely its creation through an NGO called Tender.” Reuters: “Tender was working with Netflix to produce materials teachers can use in schools, using script excerpts and clips of scenes to spark wider discussion.” Regarding knife violence: it’s true that stabbings have occurred in the UK. The issue is that the show’s focus is misleading. They changed the background and motivations of the perpetrator…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:48 AM
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Fourth wave radfems do love to call men “moids” though. I think it’s funny though tbh so I’m cool with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:09 AM
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Yes but they completely changed the killer’s background and motivations to align with the state-approved narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:07 AM
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He’s talking about the real knife murders, not the Netflix show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:58 AM
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Yes but they completely changed the killer’s background and motivations to align with the state-approved narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:49 AM
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I think it’s fair to call the show a psy-op in this case. It was funded in part by the government, then immediately pushed by politicians for its social message.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 12:09 AM
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1) It’s subjective but really comes down to the strategic incitement of sympathy to achieve target outcomes. 2) Nothing wrong with your phrasing. It’s just odd that you wrote it like a hypothetical given that it applies to you directly. I’m sorry to hear that though. I don’t blame you for not trusting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:01 PM
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You’re correct that feminism and leftism won’t ever extend to sympathy for men’s issues. But consistently pointing out the hypocrisy will erode male support for feminism over time (which is already happening).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:45 PM
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Idk if someone was robbed or attacked by several Black or Arab guys, would it justify being distrustful of the race as a collective? What if they weren’t the actual victim, but they just happen to know someone who that happened to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:30 PM
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No that’s not true. Look at the gender equality paradox. In more egalitarian countries like Sweden, women are less likely to pursue STEM compared to less egalitarian countries like Iran. Also, the greater male variability hypothesis. “There is no female Mozart because there is no female Jack the Ripper.” Look at the top performers in competitions like chess. Women aren’t being held back there. But they’re less likely to obsessively pursue mastery in a niche systems game.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:27 PM
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No it shouldn’t because on average, and especially at the extremes, men and women have different abilities and different interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:17 PM
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You’re the person who said cable TV is irrelevant because the only people who watch it are “too old to vote.”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:15 PM
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How many women in western countries do you think have been “raped by several men”? I think it would be understandable for the woman in that case to be distrusting of men as a group. But the way you’ve worded your statement makes it seem like you’re using a hypothetical to justify your judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:10 PM
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What redpill subs are active in 2025?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 04:30 PM
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Yeah this is how you actually influence change. Writing your local politicians makes a difference. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/25 05:32 PM
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So fucking based. This is the truth.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/25 08:19 PM
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We can easily see from history that is not true. Which economies have more meritocratic hiring than free markets? Do you think nepotism and favor trading are less common in socialist countries? That would be a massive undertaking to develop standardized tests for every occupation… No it wouldn’t. Companies would love to do that. The efficiency gains from better hiring would be massive. They only stopped doing it after “disparate impact” cases like Griggs v. Duke Power Co. Source? Common sense. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:42 PM
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It’ll never be perfect. But you can get closer by making incentives align: competitive free markets encourage meritocratic hiring without the distortionary effects of disparate impact mandates. Better yet, we could emphasize blind standardized tests and accept that not all populations will be equally represented in every field. And that’s okay. People are different. It isn’t like nepotism goes away under DEI. If anything, the system gives extra cover for admitting privileged members of target de…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 07:51 PM
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I literally said they would. I am also saying that they would be incorrect to do so. Vice President is not an elected position, so the idea that she’s a “DEI hire” in that role is less absurd. However, I still think it’s inaccurate since the VP pick will always account for demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:44 AM
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You’re not responding in good faith. No elected official is a DEI hire. If Kamala won the presidency, she wouldn’t be a DEI president (although I’m sure many people on the right would call her that).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:41 AM
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It’s bad for some black men, good for others (shedding the “diversity hire” perception). It’s great for the overwhelming majority of white and asian men. There’s no solutions in politics, only trade offs. You can point to someone who loses with any policy that’s been implemented.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:36 AM
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I think they should go to the person who is best qualified, regardless of their race and gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:32 AM
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DEI and affirmative action for hiring and admissions is zero sum. If the programs are increasing the representation of women, then they are decreasing the representation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:30 AM
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Dismantling DEI
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:18 AM
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Men are building communities, developing bonds, and taking initiative with their lives. You just don’t like the way it has materialized: the manosphere and right-wing politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:14 AM
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What source could he possibly provide for that? It’s obviously a value judgment. The DNC isn’t going to put out a statement saying “we don’t care about men, but we are cynically offering programs to win over male voters.”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:05 PM
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The tough part is unlearning years of cultural programming from society and trusted authority figures. It really is a struggle to internalize that you were misled on this topic and that edgy gangster rap lyrics are closer to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:45 PM
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This is a pure example of “no true Scotsman.” You’re abdicating responsibility for calling out the excesses of a movement you support by denying that those excesses even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:25 PM
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25 years ago was 1999. And I wasn’t just talking economically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 12:15 AM
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Yeah but a man with a communications degree is going to be unemployable. A woman with a communications degree will get a job in HR or marketing or project management or academia, where she’ll receive preferential hiring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 09:17 PM
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But it’s worse than it was 25 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:55 PM
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Sam is open about being on gear. The unrealistic expectations come from fake natties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 08:41 PM
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He’s not a woman. He’s a Gen X man with a black and white worldview. I just like seeing how committed he is to defending his rigid beliefs. Like “the president’s son is a friendless incel because NYU students all dislike rich and powerful people.” Also, just to note: 42% of Americans age 18-29 voted in the most recent election, not 14%.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 10:11 PM
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It’s like people aren’t fans of spoiled rich kids or something?? Stated preference vs revealed preference. Spoiled rich kids have tons of (shallow) friends and get plenty of female attention. That’s how the world works. Everyone knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:11 PM
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You’re delusional if you think Barron Trump is friendless. His dad is the most famous and powerful (maybe behind Xi Jinping?) man on the planet. And he’s 6’8” and decent looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 06:00 PM
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That’s because white people are a much larger share of the population and neighborhoods tend to be racially segregated. You’re more likely to be killed by a vending machine than by a bear, but there’s no question which one I’d rather be trapped in a room with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 10:48 PM
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“Disparate impact” lawsuits
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 04:00 PM
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It's partly genetics but 95% of men can get decently jacked with consistent lifting and diet. Do you have notoriety in your niche hobby? Not saying that having a hobby in and of itself will help you get laid. But if you're notable within a scene/niche, it absolutely will. Look at how many unattractive, autistic pro gamers have girlfriends. Of course, that's not realistic for most people, which is why the status has value in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 04:31 PM
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Gym works if you get jacked enough. Status maxing is the most effective though for sure, even if it’s within a nerdy niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:37 PM
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“When men cheat, it’s for selfish reasons like opening up their options.” “When women cheat, it’s for a good reason. Like maybe they’re keeping their options open.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 03:40 AM
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What if the man gets tested and doesn’t have any STDs? Is he still obliged to disclose his same sex attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:50 PM
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Gym improves your face marginally. And an ugly guy with a great physique can still pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:45 PM
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And I’m saying that the explicit knowledge of a man’s lack of experience is often enough to go from a “cautious yes” to a “no.” Preselection is a thing. The aggressive flirty guy at the bar may come across as creepy initially. But if you later discover that he is a famous comedian who has dated several models, then that exact same behavior will be seen in a different light.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:49 PM
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Yes but women aren’t mind readers. In the dating process, she is trying to evaluate his suitability as a partner based on behavioral cues. Discovering that a man is inexperienced will naturally color her judgment of his behavior and worthiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:29 PM
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So what’s your point? Male inexperience isn’t unattractive in and of itself but it’s used as a proxy measure to detect other unattractive traits. Same logic as why most guys care about a woman’s body count and dating history. But it would be pointless semantics to argue that men don’t broadly care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:08 PM
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You’re raising a niche example to avoid the broader point. Sure if a high status guy like Tim Tebow is a virgin by choice, that’s probably a net positive for most women. But in the vast majority of cases, a man is inexperienced due to shyness/timidity or lack of interest from other women. A man who is inexperienced for these reasons will be a turn off for most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:53 PM
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A woman can be initially attracted to you and then lose that attraction for many reasons. Being an inexperienced male is a common disqualification.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 03:50 PM
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They met in 2004 when he was already an A-list celebrity and certainly a millionaire. The Bourne Identity came out in 2002, for reference. And he’d already achieved notoriety from Good Will Hunting (1997) and The Talented Mr. Ripley (1999).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:10 PM
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Matt Damon married a bartender.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:40 PM
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Your logic is backwards here. If male in-group bias was as strong as you suggest, we never would have implemented anti-discrimination laws or allowed women into male spaces in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 04:49 PM
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It’s pretty telling that BP posters on this sub are consistently the most cruel and callous. The only real exceptions being wtknight and a couple less frequent posters. Even the big bad RPers are able to demonstrate some empathy for individuals who have been dealt a bad hand. (Although they often dismiss the unique challenges faced by women.) It’s similar to the changing dynamic of mainstream western society. 15 years ago, the biggest bullies would call you a f-slur/n-slur. Now, the biggest bull…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:32 PM
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The point is that fertility rates can still fall while the population grows. Lift_and_Lurk’s original comment suggested otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:15 PM
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Do you understand that the point of a hypothetical is to weigh trade offs? Of course you would prefer an option with all of the upsides and none of the downsides.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:23 AM
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Common slang + clip from the world’s most popular podcast. Not the dunk you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 12:52 AM
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An ugly-ass pro athlete will have no problem getting with models and other hot women, even casually. It’s about status, not physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 08:18 PM
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Bro your ego is so tied up in reflexively disagreeing with RPers that you have to make all these absurd deflections to avoid acknowledging when they have a valid point. Gender sentencing bias is well-known and well-studied. It’s not some niche RP internet belief. You can acknowledge that without having to agree with RP views on women. It’s embarrassing to watch you bring in all these extra variables to avoid the simple and obvious comparison between genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:16 AM
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That is incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:39 AM
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Kk now do the same argument for racial disparities for violent crime
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:39 PM
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Ngl “too old to vote” is the most insane comment I’ve seen on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 01:30 AM
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Lmao why would a man in a healthy relationship decide to start following RP? Guys will seek out RP content when they are unhappy with their dating life and want to make a change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:44 PM
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Mostly biology plus a bit of cultural influence, if I had to guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:36 AM
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A short, ugly guy has less value as a romantic partner. Does that mean that they are less valuable as a human being?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:59 PM
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Affirmative action for high-paying corporate jobs is not a fundamental right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:13 AM
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Of course he wasn’t more athletic in his 30s. But he was a better QB in terms of decision making and skill. The same goes for the other guys I listed. They peaked in their 30s because of sport-specific abilities and composure gained through experience. No one is saying that a track and field athlete will peak in their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:32 AM
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I added more names from other sports
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:08 AM
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Luka Modric, Karim Benzema. Tom Brady, James Harrison. Tim Thomas. José Bautista.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:56 AM
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So your claim is effectively impossible to challenge. Because given an example of feminists and progressives "attacking" a "healthy" approach to men's issues, you'll just say that it wasn't a "healthy" approach so the "attacks" are justified. It must be nice never having to critically examine your beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:13 PM
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Your original comment is: How did feminists and progressives “attack” groups taking a “healthy” approach to mens issues? I provided an example of this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:48 PM
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That’s why I said you are being nitpicky. The broader point is that “progressive feminists” do in fact protest and fight against male mental health initiatives. Instead of acknowledging this, you cling to technicalities in OP’s wording. You’re not the good guy here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:34 PM
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He’s a famous expert in the field giving a speech about men’s issues at a university. Hundreds of feminists protested this event.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:25 PM
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Farrell has taught university level courses in five disciplines (psychology; women's studies; sociology; political science; gender and parenting issues). You’re being nitpicky to avoid the point. Here’s a link about this event: https://thevarsity.ca/2012/11/17/arrest-assaults-overshadow-mens-issues-lecture/ The protestors argued that Farrell’s talk was hate speech, and did real damage to women…Farrell’s lecture centred around ten major themes, including discussion of “men’s issues.”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:20 PM
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Protest of Warren Farrell at University of Toronto
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:14 PM
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Protest of Warren Farrell at University of Toronto
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:14 PM
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Protest of Warren Farrell at University of Toronto
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:13 PM
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My point is that there was a prominent contingent of anti-trans feminists, particularly in the second wave. In the 2010s, the broader feminist movement started labeling these individuals as TERFs and began excluding their voices from the community. There has been no similar effort to identify, label, and push away anti-male sentiment in the feminist movement. If anything, excuses are made to justify these views. So it’s natural to conclude that these voices are accepted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:33 PM
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They did a pretty good job isolating and calling out TERFs
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 03:37 PM
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I’ve been supportive of my friends opening up and they’ve been supportive of me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 09:04 PM
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No they don’t. And if you point out that they’re generalizing men, you get downvotes and sarcastic “#notallmen” comments
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:36 AM
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No, I see you in subs like r/askmen doing the exact same thing. You’re not here to help anyone. If you were, you’d demonstrate some degree of compassion and willingness to listen. Any time I see your username, I already know exactly what type of shit you’re posting. You’re just an asshole who likes to punch down at easy targets.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:56 PM
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You’ve been posting here for years bro. And 100% of the time you blindly defend women and shit on men. It doesn’t matter the context, you enter every thread already knowing what side of the debate you’re on. You never contemplate these topics honestly; you’re just here to insult struggling guys and feel self-righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 05:30 PM
8

It’s not about what “should” be. It’s about reality. You can accept it or you can live in denial and be disappointed over and over again. Men and women will never be held to the same sexual standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:37 PM
1

Yeah well narcissist sociopaths are often very successful with women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 09:44 PM
2

Rollo = crazy old man nowadays; The Rational Male content from ~10 years ago is mostly helpful and definitely aligns with my life experiences Myron = bitter misogynist; sometimes has a good point but will often take it too far; you can tell he actually hates women and would struggle without his clout Tate = tough to tell his actual beliefs/personality, most of his content is clearly trolling and taking the piss; i have no doubt that he is very successful in attracting women
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/24 12:09 AM
1

RP wouldn’t still be a thing if it didn’t work. It’s not right about everything or in every situation, but it’s significantly more effective than the mainstream dating advice for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 11:16 PM
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No? In context, the sentence refers to “female chauvinist attitudes” held by women in general. But I was replying to the comment below that one. It’s not a big deal - it just seemed kinda circlejerky. Like I’ve seen the exact same line in 2XC. Don’t get me wrong, I agree it sucks to have to walk on eggshells with this topic. But men’s issues don’t attract much sympathy, so I think it’s important to be on good behavior in this sub for the sake of neutral observers.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 10:22 PM
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Bro I know it’s just venting but this is like the inverse of 2XC. This is the type of comment that people can point at to say that MRA is just about hating women.
/r/MensRights22/03/24 07:05 PM
1

So there’s no population of men on the planet that offers enough to meet the standards of American women? Does that not suggest that the standards of American women are “too high” vs American men don’t offer enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 08:33 PM
-2

”why is this true vs men not offering enough?” American men are going abroad to meet women. They are almost always more successful with this strategy than with dating at home. How common is it for American women to go abroad for higher quality options?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 07:32 PM
17

Five years from now this guy will be posting misogynistic rants on r/theredpill
/r/EverydayMisandry16/03/24 07:14 PM
3

It’s a reference to Basic Channel. Goated username imo. This post looks bad out of context, but Aimee is actually chill and not a misandrist. She’s mtf and sides with men on many issues. This is just an edgy post.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/03/24 04:54 PM
-2

Damn your posts are always so based
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 01:12 PM
5

You’ve never fantasized about a real life person outside of a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 11:23 PM
2

Agree on the first point. Male virgin stigma makes it disingenuous to tell men to enjoy celibacy. For the second point, I think it’s for the best that men bear the burden of approaching. If women were expected to initiate, the top guys would get even more attention. Saying this as a guy who already gets approached in public by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:20 PM
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The Santa comparison would only be appropriate with a few tweaks: *40%+ of the adult population legitimately believes in Santa Claus *You face repercussions in the professional world and in polite company for suggesting disbelief in Santa Claus *Communities involving "Santa skepticism" are labelled as bigoted by the media and are suppressed on mainstream online platforms *If a poor kid who never received a gift on Christmas speaks up, their concerns are dismissed and they are told that the issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:35 AM
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So basically: “Yes you were lied to. But really it’s your fault for being stupid/naive/autistic enough to believe that women would tell the truth about their preferences.” In which case, I guess we are in agreement. I was dumb and naive to listen to the women in my life. I should have just listened to the misogynistic frat bros from the start. TRP is literally for guys like me who were fooled by societal messaging about equality and patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 12:10 AM
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10 years ago, it was very common for BPers on this sub to insist women don’t care about looks. More commonly, they would insist that women don’t broadly share a preference for certain characteristics (e.g. height, muscles, social dominance) in a partner. If you told a struggling guy on a dating sub to start lifting weights, you would be dogpiled by commenters insisting that only men care about muscles and that the OP clearly just needs to be more emotionally available. This narrative collapsed o…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 08:58 PM
3

The BP flair is misleading tbh. You’re at least Purple
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 10:53 PM
1

That’s because shaming Chad does absolutely nothing. He knows he’s being selfish, but he’s winning. So inkwells instead mostly try to shame the women who chase after Chad, because those women might have an actual incentive to change their behavior. Not defending this, for the record. Just explaining why most of the bitterness from low status men is directed towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:59 PM
1

Okay then more specifically, do you think he would have been a sex symbol in the 90s at 15% bodyfat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:46 PM
5

Single digit body fat % with muscle is not “the bare minimum to be healthy”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:35 PM
1

Unsuccessful men try to do that (e.g. Chad/Tyrone memes). That gets them labeled as whiny incels. Men with the power to influence social norms are not the men struggling with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:31 PM
1

Men can agree that guys like that are selfish. What do you expect them to do about it? You don’t want guys controlling female sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:24 PM
2

It still takes effort to be hot, even with good genetics. How attractive would Brad Pitt be at 35% bodyfat?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 07:09 PM
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Because the women work collectively to obfuscate their preferences and give those remaining men just enough attention to stay hopeful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 06:52 PM
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Idgaf about her. The point of my comment is that you’re rude and cruel and your opinions should be disregarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 08:29 PM
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Yeah but you can easily fumble someone who would otherwise be interested. Flirting is a skill that you can develop
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 05:53 PM
1

Yeah I know I can’t convince you. I’ve seen you post here for years and not once have you acknowledged a point that didn’t support your ideology. Sorry to pick on you specifically; I’m just in awe at your mastery of doublethink. I don’t think you intend to debate in bad faith. I do think that you benefit socially and professionally from your ideological rigidity and unwillingness to entertain contrary viewpoints. So yeah, I can understand why your beliefs are based on power instead of principle.…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 09:55 PM
1

Way to dodge the question
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:02 PM
11

That’s the foundation of TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:07 PM
12

So essentially disregard what women say, pay attention to what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:34 PM
5

Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:31 PM
1

If a woman was struggling with dating and I told her “it wouldn’t hurt to put the fork down and pass on second desert,” would it be unreasonable for her to feel slighted?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:24 PM
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Lol you’re making unsolicited insults towards her looks and she’s the problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:00 PM
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It’s a comic drawn by a woman from lefty Twitter. It’s insulting the guy, not the girl. The implication is that the nice, socially-conscious woman will still date a masculine asshole. You say that only an asshole woman will date an asshole man. So when a girl complains about her bf being an inconsiderate dick (which happens all the time), do you offer her sympathy or do you write her off as a dick as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:22 PM
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What do you think is the origin of this stereotype? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 06:13 PM
1

She clearly implies not showering is a reason why men are struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 09:48 AM
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But I’m not saying it’s bad advice. I’m just providing evidence since januaryphilosopher doesn’t believe that it’s ever given earnestly
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:41 AM
2

This is you posting on PPD: Duper’s Delight
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 03:40 AM
1

Literal example in this thread: https://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/USXE6cfscM
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:47 AM
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Literal example in this thread: https://www.np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/USXE6cfscM
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:42 AM
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RP is full of grifters now but the main principles have been around for decades before those guys
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 12:34 AM
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Bro I never said that a random RP dude could get in your pants. I am just addressing your false assertions that: a) common preferences don’t exist / are impossible to know, and b) real-world professionals never use shortcuts/cheat-codes. You completely ignored that and started throwing out more random assertions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:40 PM
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There are no consistent social rules because human beings are not consistent nor homogeneous. The idea that any two people will react the same way to a stimulus is ludicrous Individual differences exist, but human beings in aggregate are more similar than different. Common patterns emerge. Why else would every large corporation spend millions/billions on market research each year? There isn’t a teacher, surgeon, athlete, or comedian who would consider shortcuts to their craft. Professionals in e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 10:25 PM
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It’s meant to look like an idealized natural. Same idea as the makeup they put on male actors and media people. Guys do care about makeup. When a girl goes without any makeup, it’s common for guys to ask her if she’s sick. I’m just pressing the issue to be consistent. I hate it when women gaslight men about their preferences. So it’s important for me to call out the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 08:16 PM
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Nah this is a point where the guys are delusional. What most guys think of as “natural” still involves makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:31 PM
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You’re 100% correct here though. Most guys don’t know what they’re talking about when it comes to natural makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:26 PM
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Bro if women broadly preferred men who wear makeup and shave their body hair, then men would all be doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 07:17 PM
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Oh your takeaway from the comment is that she will share details about her partner’s buttcheek hair and personal confessions, but discussing penis size is a bridge too far
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:42 PM
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Haha sorry to drag you into this. Not being serious. Was just related to a light debate we were having on this sub earlier today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 09:08 AM
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Yeah but 3.4% is still a spooky number. We regularly take precautions against risks far less probable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:19 AM
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Can you tell that to u/januaryphilosopher ? She insists that women don’t discuss these intimate details with their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 08:16 AM
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Who is agreeing with you? This thread is full of people disagreeing with your assertions. You just don’t accept those voices as valid. Sorry, it is not rare for women to gossip about their intimate partners. This is common in school and the workplace. Sure it’s not the nicest thing to do, but that doesn’t make them terrible people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:36 PM
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How are you so certain? Why is your experience more correct than the experiences of the numerous people in this thread who disagree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 07:18 PM
1

You honestly believe that it’s uncommon for women to gossip about the men that they have sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:59 PM
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It’s like you’re literally incapable of accepting any information that might contradict your ideological worldview…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:29 PM
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Yes! You are the exception! In literally every thread where you insist that women don’t have a broad preference for tall men or that women don’t gossip about the men they have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 05:26 PM
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This is literal gaslighting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:49 AM
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Anybody with the power to do anything about it obviously benefits from the current situation
/r/MensRights13/02/24 07:07 PM
6

FDS was never banned by Reddit admins. The FDS mods closed the sub in an attempt to migrate the user base to the FDS website. They made vague comments about admin pressure, but provided no evidence. TERF subs are banned because they go after a protected group. Men are not considered a protected group on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:25 PM
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The only radfem subs banned by Reddit were the TERF ones. I agree it’s bs that they were banned, but they weren’t removed for anti-male content.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:17 PM
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You’re assuming that the top men will choose to pair off and stay loyal to one woman. That doesn’t happen. Look at the way pro athletes and entertainers sleep around, even when married.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 09:23 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 08:37 PM
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r/twoxchromosomes is literally 35x larger than r/mensrights
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:34 PM
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To better understand and empathize with the female experience? Isn’t that what feminists say men should do?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:29 PM
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Toxic male-only spaces get banned
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:26 PM
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TwoX has 13 million subs. It’s not exactly a niche community.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 07:10 PM
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It’s more like 1 in 20 to 1 in 100, depending on the estimate, which is still kinda spooky tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/24 08:53 AM
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“Men and women are the exact same … unless it’s a negative trait specific to men”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:53 AM
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Do radfems ever get banned for misandry or do they get banned for criticizing a specific protected group?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:46 PM
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That’s a completely different dynamic though. Women aren’t competing with one another to rack up a body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:38 AM
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Nah physical size definitely plays a part. I was small and had a late puberty. Now I’m 6’4” and athletic. In a new social situation, I get treated by default like a leader and it’s my role to lose (which still does happen of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 02:34 AM
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Well we definitely did debate whether or not the earth revolves around the sun. And turns out the institutional authorities weren’t on “team reality” for that topic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 10:59 PM
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Most of the wage growth since covid has gone to workers in the lowest income bracket. Income inequality has actually gone down in recent years. This also means that businesses have to pay higher wages to low skilled workers, driving up costs, which are passed down to consumers through higher prices.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/01/24 07:26 PM
5

In Europe, Tinder girls say “must be 1,80m”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 05:27 PM
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Right? If women all like tall guys, then just be tall! It’s simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 05:01 PM
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There’s been many attempts to estimate the rate of paternity fraud. Basically all estimate in the range of 0.5% - 5% of total births.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:57 PM
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They do already have FLINTA (no cis men) exclusive nights in some European clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:00 AM
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Be honest, you think guys who aren’t naturally on top of the hierarchy should shut up and serve as cannon fodder.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:18 PM
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Yes literally every normal, mentally healthy person will “misrepresent” themselves to make a more flattering initial impression. This applies to interviews, the workplace, client meetings, social events, and dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 07:29 PM
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I have a lot more sympathy for claims of “generational trauma” from ethnic minorities, who can at least point to specific historical injustices inflicted upon their communities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:54 PM
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I'm not OP. I have seen a man mock another man's penis. However, I have seen significantly more penis size-related insults coming from women. You claim otherwise in another comment. (I should have replied to that comment instead to be fair.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 07:24 PM
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Do you think it’s possible that you are the one who has had unusual experiences?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:03 PM
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How tall is your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:53 PM
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To avoid accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:24 PM
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You don’t actually believe women are that dumb…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 04:53 PM
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My point is that their bad behavior is public knowledge. Yet they are still highly desirable to women - thus making them “high value men”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 10:13 PM
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Who is forcing women to date routine cheaters like Neymar and Adam Levine? Or known abusers like Chris Brown?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:55 PM
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A man’s sexual market value is based on his desirability to women. It’s not about the values of other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 09:01 PM
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Okay but it exists. You just don’t like how the implications of its existence makes you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 07:51 PM
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That’s because most dating subs ban you for those posts, so they end up overrepresented here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 10:58 PM
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The rate of paternity fraud is estimated at around 0.5% to 5%. That’s not especially uncommon. And idk what you’re trying to imply with your second comment. The type of guy most worth “trapping” is one with desirable resources and undesirable genetics. You don’t think the software engineers on Reddit would fall under that category?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:31 PM
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So what happens if the child does a 23andMe test? Or if the child is having behavioral issues and the psychiatrist needs to know their family history?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 03:13 PM
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Yeah from the bio dad. I just think it’s fucked up to hold some other guy accountable for his wife’s transgressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:57 PM
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What about the biological father? Why is he not held accountable? But likewise, it’s revealing to learn how greatly women value the ability to cuckold their partner, even when it causes harm to the child down the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:52 PM
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No, I care because it’s fucked up that there’s millions of men out there unknowingly raising a child that isn’t their own. The rate of paternity fraud is estimated to be around 0.5%-5%. We take precautions against 1-in-200 risks all the time, let alone 1-in-20; yet in this case it’s taboo. I think this is an important issue for men to advocate for their own interests. My intention is to challenge the common argument that keeping paternity concealed is in the best interests of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 10:44 PM
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It’s case-specific and often involves a lengthy/expensive legal battle. There has been numerous instances where the betrayed spouse is ordered to provide child support for another man’s child. There’s shades of gray, but certainly signing your name on the birth certificate would be a liability in court. And no, I’m not a doctor. There are many doctors among my friends and family, so I am aware of the many subjective judgment calls they need to make when helping their patients. It’s important to …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 09:12 PM
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Lol of course, the time and the place for paternity testing is after the man is legally responsible for the child. How considerate. And no, blood testing is not some magical procedure that tells you everything about a person. They still gather all of the family history even when a blood test is taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:39 PM
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I don’t believe that most women are unfaithful. But I am disappointed by the lengths that faithful women will go to enable and protect unfaithful women, even when it comes at the expense of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:36 PM
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1: Opting out vs opting in changes the balance of social pressure. 2: It’s a noninvasive test. What undue stress is inflicted on faithful mothers with parental certainty? Is it different from the undue stress inflicted by urine screening for drug abuse? 3: You do know that basically every medical practitioner will ask questions about your family physical and mental health history? Not just the father, but the entire side of the family. This information is accounted for in their diagnoses and pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:31 PM
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What so outrageous about mandatory paternity testing? We already do a bunch of tests throughout pregnancy and labour in the interest of the child. Paternity testing is cheap and easy. Having an accurate family history is valuable for doctors treating the child. Also it’s better to defuse paternity disputes before the child has attached to the betrayed father. Even though that situation sucks for all parties, it’s certainly less harmful than the family blowing up 10 years down the line after the …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:10 PM
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Chad isn't jacking it to a screen, honey. You'd think that. But even A-listers like Drake and Kanye admit that they regularly watch porn. Obviously, that's not because they can't get a real woman.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 05:49 PM
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You are literally gaslighting here. There is no political will to expand the draft to women, so they will keep kicking the can indefinitely.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 10:01 PM
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In my opinion, a woman wants a man with a stronger character than her. This is a redpill viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:21 AM
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MrBeast
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 08:24 PM
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The gender swapped equivalent of this would be a 20 year-old model saying she wants a tall guy with an interesting career. Sure some people would complain, but most observers would recognize that her expectations are reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:45 PM
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It’s not about his looks lmao. He’s the most famous YouTuber on the planet. Of course he’s going to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 03:40 PM
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OP, this is the most relevant and accurate explanation of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 02:59 AM
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Lol this is ridiculous. You think in the early 2000s, Jennifer Aniston was turned off by Brad Pitt?
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 07:26 PM
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So many words to say so little…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 07:50 PM
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Wait are you saying that there’s no women online who fantasize about big dicks? Lmao go take a look at some of the smut popular on wattpad, tumblr, deviantart, AO3. Girls are horny as hell for 6’5” billionaire vampires with thick 10” cocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/23 03:04 AM
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Is that what you say when a woman complains about the men she has dated?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/23 06:24 PM
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What’s the value of this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 07:43 PM
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Not surprised at all that you’re the type of person to tell lonely men that the problem is their “garbage personalities.” Clearly you got rejected recently and are looking to punch down.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 05:01 PM
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Idk look at the ratio of likes to comments. Most of the examples linked are much more popular than controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 01:02 AM
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Guys asking for advice on this topic can’t afford to be picky like that. And no one likes dealing with continuous rejection. Overt communication of needs, wants, and desires in the escalation stage is abnormal in western dating and will generally be interpreted as awkward, needy, and unsexy. Physical escalation is almost entirely about nonverbal communication and body language cues. It comes down to intuition. There’s a reason why after sleeping with a guy, women tend to say “it just happened.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 09:18 PM
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First class ticket to “you’re such a nice guy but for some reason I’m just not feeling it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 08:50 PM
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It’s easy for LeBron to dunk but it’s still impressive because most people can’t dunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:31 PM
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Because that’s all that those guys have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 07:00 PM
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The “poison M&Ms/skittles” argument is commonly used by opponents of immigration, most famously in 2016 by Donald Trump in reference to Syrian refugees. Is the argument acceptable in that instance? If not, why is it any different when it’s used to characterize men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 06:02 PM
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Can we apply that same argument to immigrants and racial minorities?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 04:22 PM
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Almost certain this is satire / rage-bait. It’s incredibly on the nose and the other articles on the blog are even worse.
/r/MensRights17/08/23 12:55 AM
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Because they can
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:18 PM
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Who needs Andrea Tate? Andrea Dworkin is celebrated by institutional feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:15 PM
1

It’s safe. Check out the SBS guide to neck training.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 03:56 PM
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Queen 👸
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 03:30 PM
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Looksmax for 6-12 months. Go to local bars and hit on women. You'll fail a lot at first but then eventually you will start to understand the flow of seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:23 PM
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It's a very small % of men that will pass on sex with an attractive woman because she has an annoying laugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 04:00 PM
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Men get the ick from girls too but in those cases it at least doesn’t spell the end of sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:21 PM
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In the natural state of the world, no one has rights. The powerful take what they want. Human rights are a modern luxury.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:10 PM
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I’m guessing you’re from a rural area. I think a lot of the difference in experiences comes from geography. Hypergamy is really only on steroids in the major affluent cities, which tend to be overrepresented on sites like Reddit.
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 10:58 PM
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Destabilizing is not necessarily threatening violence. Most guys will just check out and stop contributing to society. Expect more NEETS, drug abuse and deaths of despair. Also expect to see the rise of more radical populist politicians. And yes, crime will inevitably go up - though I’m not suggesting that most guys will resort to that. In any case, you’re delusional for thinking that if only 1% of guys were having sex, the rest of society would carry on as normal. That’s exactly the type of sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 06:05 PM
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If you think a 30%+ and growing share of the male population being locked out of sex and relationships won’t have any downstream effects, I don’t know what to tell you. You said in another post that it wouldn’t be a problem if 99% of men were ineligible. So I guess you don’t understand that heterosexual young men aren’t inclined to support a society where they serve as a sexless underclass. You need to understand that our modern egalitarian society is fragile and requires buy-in from the vast ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 05:22 PM
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Yes, literally bullying. Look at your comment history. You’re never here to be constructive or helpful. You’re just here to dunk on guys who are already struggling. And it’s not because you care. It’s because you need someone to punch down on and the lonely guys here are a socially acceptable target. So you go on subs like this, r/virgin, r/shortguys to feel better about yourself. You have no real principles or values. People like you only seem to understand power. It’s so obvious that you’re a …
/r/AllPillDebate30/06/23 05:09 PM
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You can identify a problem without having a good solution. It is frustrating that you insist that the problem does not exist because you don’t think that there is a good way to address it. That is the sort of gaslighting that builds resentment among struggling men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:44 PM
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This is the frustrating part of discussing this topic. Because you don’t like the potential implications of addressing the issue, you have to pretend like the problem doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 04:19 PM
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You’re such an exhausting, shitty individual. The worst type of person who uses their progressive politics as a bullying tool. You don’t give a shit about the marginalized groups you claim to protect. You just like staking the moral high ground and lording over struggling men. All because it gratifies your ego.
/r/AllPillDebate29/06/23 05:28 PM
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You’re correct. The validation is arguably the most important part of sex for many men (myself included).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 04:09 AM
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I was referring to social dominance as a trait, not the act of dominating a specific woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:11 PM
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As a 6’4” man I can assure you that women care a great deal about height.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 05:09 PM
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See I agree with most of your post. But women aren’t viscerally repulsed by genuine kindness. They are suspicious of kindness (even if genuine) from men early in the dating stage, because it signals neediness and inauthenticity. A girl isn’t going to catch the ick if you make her breakfast in bed after railing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:49 PM
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See that would be valid if women weren’t currently telling men all the things they need to do to be attractive. I don’t think there would be such an issue if guys were told that this is something they have to figure out on their own. Through media, teachers, family, and girls themselves, boys grow up bombarded with messages about the things they need to do to be attractive to women. But this messaging is only ever about how to be a good provider. Any advice that addresses the visceral elements o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:51 PM
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I had a 5’3” guy friend in high school who always struggled with dating. He intuitively sensed that his height and size was the issue, but everyone he talked to (female friends, girls who rejected him, therapists) insisted that his height didn’t matter and that he just needed to fix his mindset. I guess it’s all his fault for being naive enough to listen to the people giving him advice. SMH the dumbass didn’t even know that therapists will gaslight you on uncomfortable topics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:33 PM
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They are not lied to. Men just have to understand that women will actively give misleading advice that makes them look good. Sure we say “listen to what women say they prefer” and also say things like “women just want someone respectful and emotionally available; we don’t care at all about height, muscles, dick size, social dominance.” But obviously that wasn’t meant literally, stupid! Of course women just want to sleep with hot guys. No one ever suggested otherwise. Also male sexlessness is ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:21 PM
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Lol right women just want safe nice guys. But men say that women like bad boys. So women have no choice but to date bad boys, even though they’d prefer a stable nice guy.
/r/AllPillDebate25/06/23 09:57 PM
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We had to be dancing monkeys even before online dating. It’s just now we have to compete with the entire circus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 05:47 PM
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He’s saying she publicly announced that she’s autistic. Otherwise he wouldn’t know. But yeah, of course it’s easier to mask in an online profile.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:19 PM
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Nothing wrong with that. It’s your right to be picky, as the market allows. Appreciate the honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:05 PM
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No that’s not true either. Looks are very important for attracting women, and increasingly so in the TikTok era. It’s just that any 5+ western woman can effectively access an endless supply of good looking guys online, so she will be more incentivized to disqualify you over any minor infractions.
/r/AllPillDebate06/06/23 12:54 AM
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No shit. We are all human and everyone’s body can be gross at times. I will also get “the ick” over something minor (like if a girl misses shaving a moustache hair and it catches the light). The difference is that as a guy, even though this takes me out of the moment, it won’t affect my attraction in the long-term. Because as a man a) attraction is simple (hot = horny) and b) consistent sex will always require time and effort, so I’m less inclined to be picky.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:35 PM
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Bro you need to understand that on a primal level, women are more turned off by neurodivergent men than by child predators, abusers, etc. I’m 6’4” fit and white with a Hollywood face. I have been left for guys who are “worse” than me in every physical category. However, these guys are always much higher in status and very dominant (usually dark triad).
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 11:26 PM
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Yeah no shit looks are important. I’m just saying that even if you’re hot, there’s still a million behavioral things that could turn a girl off down the line. Looking good does give you much more leeway of course.
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 09:30 PM
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Chronically online take. Women can go from enthusiastic FWB to developing the ick because you made a weird sound one time. Looks matter, but ultimately women are chasing feelings. t. autistic chad
/r/AllPillDebate05/06/23 07:41 PM
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Us Magazine: “Author Jordan Peterson opened up after Olivia Wilde claimed that Chris Pine’s character in Don’t Worry Darling was inspired by him — and that he was a “hero” for the “incel” community.”
/r/AllPillDebate02/06/23 12:44 AM
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Olivia Wilde…
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 11:39 PM
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Only when it stops working. Then it becomes: “No one ever said size doesn’t matter. Obviously women prefer a man who can satisfy them physically.”
/r/AllPillDebate01/06/23 06:04 PM
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Looks like you said the activating word…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:43 PM
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Substantially all of my life and dating experience has supported the greater male variability hypothesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 12:55 AM
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Actually most male porn stars are short. It makes their dick look bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 03:55 PM
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I didn’t say anything about looks or money or status either. This is about the personality traits that are attractive to women. This type of filtering strategy won’t do anything to reduce harassment. It just punishes the conscientious guy who listens to women and takes their words seriously. This means less competition for the aggressive players who take what they want and won’t listen anyway. And then everyone gets to hear complaints about how men are trash, men are predators, and men need to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 06:03 PM
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Your post basically reads as: “Yes women will lie about their preferences and give misleading advice to filter out the men who aren’t naturally sexually attractive. And it’s your fault for being dumb/autistic/naive enough to believe them.” I don’t disagree necessarily. But you should know that your sentiment is as red pilled as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 08:21 PM
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Bezos is not higher SMV than Leo lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 04:28 PM
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I don’t think we have the same sense of humor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 04:45 PM
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Boob job is a good comparison. But cosmetic leg lengthening is significantly more risky and expensive and inherently damaging.
/r/AllPillDebate12/05/23 01:49 AM
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No it’s literally reality, especially with higher quality girls. They don’t have to consent to guys that are unattractive. Of course even a 1/10 guy will eventually find someone if he has enough money. I’m not saying that he’ll get rejected every time.
/r/AllPillDebate06/05/23 12:13 AM
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Although truecels will still often get rejected by sex workers
/r/AllPillDebate05/05/23 11:10 PM
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Nah women are people. As it is with men: some are cool, some are shitty, most are just meh.
/r/AllPillDebate03/05/23 07:23 PM
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I agree that a lot of men are pathetic and make for shitty partners. But you’d be delusional to think that the average woman is much better as a dating prospect.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:07 PM
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How common are false accusations of theft, robbery, and murder? Particularly in the professional sphere. And if no evidence is given, is the man still treated as guilty of these crimes by society?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 05:05 PM
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Yeah the lesson isn’t to hate women. The lesson is to not take women and their words seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:54 PM
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Haha I said the same thing at your age. You can look at my profile - I was firmly BP when I first came here. Life experience ends up validating a lot of the RP talking points unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:47 PM
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It might give you the tools to get into the pants of young women with borderline personality disorder and attachment insecurities Tbf this probably applies to 70%+ of single women in college these days
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:43 PM
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You’re on the right track OP. RP has a lot of good advice but it’s not right about everything and doesn’t apply to every situation. Just make sure to get a lot of dating experience while you’re young so that you can know which parts are worth following.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 04:36 PM
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Demographics. I’m also just being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:53 PM
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If you’re a neurotypical woman posting this much on PPD you must be hella ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/23 10:48 PM
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There’s a ton actually. Random names: Cardopusher, Nikki Nair, Anish Kumar, Jai Paul, Yung Singh, Akshay Mathker, Nammy Wams, D.Dan, Tzusing, S.O.N.S., Soichi Terada.
/r/AllPillDebate16/04/23 12:48 PM
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Based and redpilled.
/r/AllPillDebate12/04/23 09:42 PM
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Those guys are all incredibly wealthy and incredibly well-connected.
/r/AllPillDebate11/04/23 04:06 PM
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You are clearly mentally ill. I hope you find some peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:15 AM
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Men are saying that we have this biological impulse and/or sociocultural conditioning, even though in today’s reality it is really fucking stupid to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 05:04 AM
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Yes dick size matters. No it's not the only thing that matters. If sex was just about the mechanical sensation, no dick could compete with the crazy dildos and vibrators out there. You set yourself apart as a man by leading the girl through an emotional journey and keeping her immersed in the narrative. This takes less work if you're physically attractive, since she'll more readily project an arousing image onto you.
/r/AllPillDebate03/04/23 08:17 PM
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Here's an article about the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 06:30 PM
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Study suggests mothers, not fathers, have “boys don’t cry” bias towards sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 05:15 PM
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That also happens
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:32 PM
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Yeah it’s more like “man is paying for drinks” in those cases
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:13 PM
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Assuming this is including abortion? I don’t think that’s a fair comparison and it’s a misleading use of stats. Agree that OP’s premise is ridiculous though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:15 PM
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I see nothing false here.
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 06:47 AM
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No my point is that it’s not fair to say a girl is toxic/trashy just because she hooked up with a guy out of her league.
/r/AllPillDebate30/03/23 01:49 AM
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Any thoughts on my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 05:44 PM
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This sounds nice but idk how well it holds up in reality. Intelligent, high quality women (and men) aren’t somehow immune to biological and social pressures. People for the most part are quite similar and predictable - it’s why advertising is so effective.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 03:29 PM
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Unfortunately the bottom of the barrel still has an inbox full of 6’3” guys with ambiguous intentions
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 03:23 PM
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Yeah you gotta get the reps in. Top guys sleep with ugly chicks all the time, especially in college. They just don’t brag about it.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 03:21 PM
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Lmao this is projection
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:44 PM
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Still get harassed, touched inappropriately without consent when out at clubs and concerts. Nowhere near the same physical threat though.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:41 PM
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You’re actually the first person in this comment thread to bring up the 40s. OP said 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 10:40 PM
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I agree that exceptions exist but this pattern absolutely exists among smart, educated women. Like we can pretend that every woman who misrepresents her preferences is a terrible person or we can just acknowledge that it’s something even decent people are prone to doing. It’s a common socialized behavior, not some deliberate act of malice.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:49 PM
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My point is that I understand why you think it’s not that complicated. I thought the same thing: if you want to attract women, why not listen to them when they say what they want? And sure maybe some girls you’ve dated were misleading with their words, but bullet dodged right? At a certain point though the pattern becomes too consistent to ignore. Women will swear to you that they want to eat salad, then somehow always end up eating ice cream. Even the kind nerdy girl you thought was different w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 07:31 PM
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Uhh yeah that was my point. I’m trying to understand why she thinks every other guy is also accountable in this scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:45 PM
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I agree with you though imo educating younger guys about this type of behavior does make the world better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:43 PM
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This doesn’t line up with reality. Of course some/many women use sex as a bargaining tool. That doesn’t mean that they don’t value sex in and of itself. Do you think the middle-aged white women visiting Jamaica are trying to secure resources from the twenty year-old pool boys?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:38 PM
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And the obvious end result of that is men lying about their intentions with girls they see as recreational use only. There’s nothing any of us can do to prevent other guys from doing that. I guess it’ll be shitty times all around 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:28 PM
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So when one popular fuckboy consensually sleeps with 20 individual women, who is accountable? Is it the responsibility of other men to stop this from happening because women lack the agency to turn him down?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:23 PM
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See you at the gym bro
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 06:16 PM
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Of course the average 40 year old who let himself go isn’t gonna be killing it. But it’s not rare at all for a guy who struggled in his teens and early twenties to get his shit together in his late twenties and early thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:48 PM
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Do you actually have zero self-awareness? You’re the most consistently bitter, miserable poster this sub has seen all year.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 05:43 PM
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Okay in what situation is casual sex not readily available then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/23 03:24 PM
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School -> female-dominated institutionally at all levels; positive bias in grading; gender-specific scholarships; lower admissions requirements for prestigious programs; athletics subsidized by revenues from male athletes. Work -> HR and DEI departments are female-dominated and influential; beneficiaries of 'soft quotas' in hiring and promotion in basically every lucrative industry; workplace death gap; maternity benefits (which I support btw, but it's still a government intervention that everyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 08:56 PM
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So you are also supporting women’s issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:48 PM
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If he’s paying taxes, he’s supporting women’s issues
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:45 PM
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In an unregulated society, men dominate. Since we value fairness, most men are okay with sacrificing some of their power to empower women to compete on an even playing field. But now we're at the point where women are systemically advantaged and men are falling behind. So why would you expect men to double down on their own oppression to make your lives better?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:21 PM
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What? The game is naturally not equal. We rigged it in your favor and now you're acting like it's the course of nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 06:13 PM
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You think modern society does nothing for women's issues specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:55 PM
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Bro I wish it worked like that. Women always lose feelings when I treat them like an equal partner. But for some reason that doesn't happen when I stop taking them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:46 PM
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Hahaha yeah dating dynamics would normalize if more guys were enthusiastic about doing house chores!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:41 PM
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I did read the thread. I just think it's funny that you're trying to make a gendered comparison about accountability.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:35 PM
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An obese sixty year-old woman can easily find a reasonably attractive, fit man in his twenties or thirties willing to drive over for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:24 PM
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How convenient that women have no responsibility under our societal framework lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:20 PM
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Vanilla is still great though. Even though it's flawed and unbalanced it has so much soul. And what's more fun than storming through a raid with a stack of fully world buffed warriors?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:19 PM
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And casual sex is always available with basically no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 05:16 PM
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Maybe you would be if you were shorter and uglier... I do agree it's not that straightforward. There's definitely attractive fit guys with options who prefer BBWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:56 PM
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No this is a you problem where you are clearly playing dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:54 PM
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Goddamn you're so consistently kind and reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:47 PM
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And of course all of these women come with zero problems or baggage of their own, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:38 PM
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Of Course You Know What "Woke" Means
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/23 04:36 PM
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That’s like 1 relationship and 2-3 hookups a year starting age 16. It’s not uncommon at all, especially after 2 years of college. And let’s say the 30 year old guy is emotionally healthy and has his shit together. He’s just a late bloomer hasn’t dated anyone for whatever reason (shyness, focused on career, frequent rejection). What would the power dynamic be in that relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 09:17 PM
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Who has more life experience: a 30-year old male virgin who has never dated or a 20-year old woman with 15+ bodies and 4 LTRs in her past?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 07:51 PM
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I don’t think it’s some conscious effort to push men down. Men don’t have a class voice and incur a social penalty for vocalizing their struggles. Feminists have a lot of institutional power and women control 80% of consumer spending, so it makes sense that corporate media is going to pander to them. Academia is female-dominated at all levels, from teachers to administration. Did you know that 75% of the Ivy League schools are led by women? The gender gap in college enrollment is larger now than…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/23 01:10 AM
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You know how you care about your issues because they affect your life? Other people aren’t obligated to care. Equality of opportunity is one thing - equality of outcome is an impossible moving target. Society literally discriminates against men at an institutional level at school and in the workplace. Stats show western women are doing better than ever and men are doing worse than ever. And yet all the mainstream messaging we get is “men need to do better for our women.” Like no shit young guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 11:30 PM
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Yeah why wouldn’t men want to contribute to a system that pushes them down and tells them to man up? Not advocating for F&F or the guy they had on the show btw. Just saying that it shouldn’t be a surprise that guys become indifferent to women’s issues after realizing that their compassion will never be reciprocated. (Not just talking about dating btw, but societal issues in general.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/23 10:23 PM
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It’s a supply and demand issue. Most girls make the cut, most guys don’t. Obviously there’s still ugly guys getting into relationships. But most of them aren’t. A-list celebrities and athletes still slide into random girls’ DMs. They even get rejected regularly as well. No one is gonna advertise all of their failures. And sometimes guys just want an easy lay. It’s a lot less effort when the girl is below your league.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:37 PM
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Why do you think I’m talking about myself? I’m a big ass jock that gets used as community dick. I’m just not delusional enough to think it’s because of my wonderful personality. I was also a late bloomer growing up, so I’ve experienced both sides of these dynamics. You know what’s really demoralizing for a guy who’s struggling? People denying his lived experiences and insisting that his failures are entirely of his own making. There’s nothing wrong with acknowledging structural problems in the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 07:16 PM
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It’s not like she’s gonna be advertising the guys in her DMs or her drunken mistake last weekend with Brad. This isn’t meant as a complaint, just something I’ve repeatedly observed and experienced. The game is the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 06:12 PM
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If she’s a 5/10 or better, she’s absolutely getting hit up by frat bros. Girls are flaky and always liable to suddenly lose interest, especially if she’s the only one you’re talking to. Guys who pull understand this and will take a volume approach so that they always have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:58 PM
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The shy, nerdy girl in honors classes still gets turned on by the cocky frat star
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/23 05:31 PM
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Idk there’s not any incentive for your realists to disguise their true beliefs on an anonymous forum. If anything, I think it’s practical to give the ugly truths as much exposure as possible; it’s not like these dynamics will go away if we keep trying to sweep them under the rug. Of course that doesn’t mean bringing up the topic while on a date…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 06:37 PM
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Ngl it’s been a minute since this sub had a good BP poster. Glad to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/23 03:03 PM
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What’s an example of a non-cringey way to verbally ask for consent? It’s easy to tell people what not to do.
/r/AllPillDebate19/03/23 08:53 PM
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Honestly your empty words mean nothing to me. Sorry I take issue with the way society gaslights boys about female preferences. The attractive players and sociopaths that you wish were loyal and considerate already know that the mainstream advice is bs and are going to do what they want regardless. Meanwhile the timid, sensitive boys inclined to actually listen to women end up bitter and resentful as they discover the lies they were told.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 07:27 PM
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You don’t get it. Most guys don’t start out RP. They start out by respecting women as equals and listening to them when they say what they want (e.g. kind, emotionally available, considerate). Then they see these same women repeatedly flocking to guys who have none of those traits, so they start searching the internet for answers that line up with their lived experience. And surprise surprise all that toxic macho shit you claim to hate actually works. Guys don’t redpill other guys. Guys only get…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:39 PM
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I mean yeah I’m a heterosexual male
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 05:09 AM
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Not dating in public but 2AM booty call absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 02:58 AM
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Just because it makes you feel uncomfortable doesn’t mean it’s not true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:46 PM
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Except lots of hot, fit guys will still entertain and sleep with fatties
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:43 PM
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Re-read this full comment thread 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 01:18 PM
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Yeah it’s just a trollish name on an alt account. His post history checks out for what I’d expect from a guy in his position. And people post on r/freekarma on new accounts to get around subreddit restrictions - that’s not uncommon.
/r/AllPillDebate18/03/23 01:14 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 05:56 AM
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TaxNegative is a pathetic coward, idiot, and bully but I also do not believe that OP is LARPing
/r/AllPillDebate18/03/23 05:20 AM
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Nah I believe it, especially if you’re neurodivergent. I have similar stats. Understand that even A-list celebrities like Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck get rejected and take Ls sometimes - attractive women are like that. But tbh if you’re like me, you probably get in your own way often. Just be mysterious and let them project their fantasies onto you lol
/r/AllPillDebate18/03/23 05:18 AM
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Yeah and they used to be filled with crazies. Now there’s a lot of normal, intelligent and reasonable guys (and of course still some crazies).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/23 04:05 AM
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I’m explaining why you don’t notice them. The bottom 10% of men is still millions of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:45 PM
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Yes absolutely. They stay quiet in public because they know nothing good will come from speaking up. Asian men especially are hugely over-represented in inc3l groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:21 PM
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You’re being obtuse pretending that the overwhelming majority of women don’t prioritize the same traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 10:12 PM
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There’s millions of men like that. You just don’t see them or acknowledge them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 09:56 PM
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Those guys would be less popular if we could just be honest to boys from the start. Like seriously, the manosphere would have so much less teeth if mainstream dating advice just said: “women overwhelmingly prefer tall, fit guys with status and money.” But noooo, that would look bad. So we get a bunch of contradictory doubletalk about emotional maturity and “girls all have different preferences.” Now when the short, timid Asian guy sees the nice girl in his AP English class crushing on the loud, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 06:17 PM
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So you think we should tell future generations of young men: “just figure everything out yourself.” We sure do a good job telling them a thousand different things they shouldn’t do. But no one wants to be honest with them about what they should do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:26 PM
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You know who else drank water? Hitler.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:21 PM
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Why do those men never seem to have a problem attracting women? It’s not like young guys start out believing RP; we start out by listening to what women say they want, because that’s the obvious thing to do. But guess what? It doesn’t work. Because that advice isn’t what actually gets results, it’s just polite white lies that make the people giving it and receiving it feel good and moral. So after enough failures, guys will turn to the macho dbags who actually get results. Because at least they’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 05:18 PM
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Because the advice they are getting from traditional authorities isn’t working for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:53 PM
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Except the advice actually works. When guys start seeing results, all the shaming and calls to “go to therapy” ring hollow.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:47 PM
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Damn so the past decades spent promoting womens’ interests and educating our boys to be respectful hasn’t helped at all? Maybe we could try browbeating the boys harder and tell them to be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 04:33 PM
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You think modern men are more sexist than the older generations?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:10 PM
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Yeah the dynamic at your age is way different than the dynamic in the younger generation. I do agree that the way a lot of older guys talk about women is gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/23 02:07 PM
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Not playing naive. I read those questions as rhetorical. But yeah I believe even most good girls would date or sleep with a known abuser if he’s attractive enough (in terms of looks, status, charisma) and the situation presents itself. And the entire dynamic would be different if known abusers were only dating ugly women. If this was the case, it would mean that average and attractive women (who have many options in the dating market) were actually willing to reject an otherwise attractive man b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 04:15 PM
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What’s the question you want answered?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/23 01:26 PM
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I’m talking about pop singers, where the priority is consistency and sounding like the highly produced studio recording. Metal audiences expect an authentic performance with all the associated imperfections. Bruce gets to run around the stage at his own pace and shout his vocals. If he’s noticeably exasperated, it only adds to the show’s energy. This is different from a pop star, who has to perform a choreographed dance while preserving the sound of the studio performance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 06:55 PM
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This is my experience as well. I have a ton of female friends that I enjoy spending time with. But any time things turn romantic, they inevitably start pulling out the power games and somehow lose the ability to communicate directly. And it’s kinda shitty, because the effective response to that behavior is to disregard the antics and not take them seriously. Which isn’t how I would like to treat an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 03:23 PM
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It’s medically prescribed as Desoxyn
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:40 PM
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Lol right it’s male groupies keeping Chris Brown’s career alive
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:16 PM
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Varg is a wildly influential musician. He’s extremely high status within a somewhat niche community.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 02:12 PM
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Yeah because the girls commenting “I’m down any time any place” would surely reject him in real life…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:46 PM
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Basically every singer will do that when performing live. Especially if they’re a dancer as well. Otherwise you’d hear them panting and gasping for air all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:44 PM
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It’s an issue of supply and demand. Most guys can’t afford to be picky like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:36 PM
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Chris Brown has 134M followers on insta. Every post he makes is filled with thousands of women thirsting over him. Are they all shitty people?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:30 PM
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It’s not like the ugly woman would turn down Chris Brown either - she just won’t have a shot in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:27 PM
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Oh man you might be too nice for this place. You’re actually giving OP advice instead of dishing out thinly-veiled insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 01:18 PM
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Alright bro it's not like I can convince you to care. Inequality is fun when you're on the right side of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/23 12:40 AM
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It absolutely does. There’s going to be a lot less “marriageable men” (i.e. >= her income) when white and asian men are systemically discriminated against in school and the workplace. You are literally demanding special privileges by birthright while scorning men for not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps. How do you think that attitude will be perceived? A stable society functions on give and take, not “fuck you I got mine.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:44 PM
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Okay since it's a free-for-all, let's at least get rid of gender-specific quotas in hiring and promotions. Because if women still expect guys to fulfill their traditional gender role, then men should have the opportunity to compete in a free market.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 09:02 PM
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Yeah that works for me. My comments are intended for any third parties who read your regular posts. I accept that no evidence or argument can challenge your perspectives because you go into every discussion with the conclusion already decided.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 04:12 PM
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Yeah I actually do get mad every time I see your myopic, ideologically-laden posts. It doesn't matter how much evidence someone gives you, nothing can change your opinion in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:48 PM
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Lmao he addresses all your points and of course you just fucking disappear. You're so intellectually bankrupt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:41 PM
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"Good people might suffer in fiction but in reality justice always prevails." Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 03:13 PM
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He was virtuous and honest. And people took advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:38 PM
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And look what happened to him...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:31 PM
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Idk if that's the role model you want purposeless men to follow...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/23 02:21 PM
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Yeah I've also started seeing more women calling that shit out. Sucks that they get labeled as pickmes, because it takes a lot of courage to go against the tide like that. But it's a nice reassurance that there's still some real ones out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 08:40 PM
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To be more specific, I’m talking about heterosexual, college educated, neurotypical western women under the age of 35 who are considered to be 5+/10 in looks. And it’s not just my personal experience, but what I hear from basically every guy I know who is consistently successful in dating. But this isn’t about my dating life. I’m a tall, attractive asshole so I always have options. I’m just sick of how quick people are to discredit the lived experiences of countless men just because the conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:38 PM
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It’s not meant as an attack. The greater male variability hypothesis is well-supported by research. It’s just politically unpopular because you’re not allowed to make generalizations about women as a group unless they are positive (e.g. more caring; more nurturing; more in touch with feelings). And the flip side of it is that it’s more common for a given man to be a shitbag (rapists, abusers) or completely undesirable (passive, porn addicted, etc.) I am also surrounded by smart, ambitious women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 06:19 PM
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Actually, it’s an example of being open-minded. I went in with the expectation that everyone is a unique individual, but life experience has given me sufficient evidence to the contrary. Now when I meet someone I anticipate certain patterns of behavior, and am happily proven wrong if the person proves to be an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 05:45 PM
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I believed this for so long and would always treat every woman as a unique individual. Got burned by the same things for the same reasons over and over again, no matter the country or social environment. Started acknowledging certain behavior patterns common among (twenty-something western) women in and things started falling into place. I know there's plenty of exceptions out there, but it's naive to deny that males display greater variability in terms of personalities and interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/23 04:05 PM
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It's also in the child's best interest for the actual father to be identified and named on the birth certificate. That way the legal system can hold the biological father accountable for the child's well-being instead of burdening an innocent man. And there's always the risk of the truth coming out when the child gets older. If the child's features don't match those of their legal father, they might become suspicious and take a test secretly. There's also cases where the child takes an ancestry …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:24 PM
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all men look better with beards This is your original statement. It seems like you're using "beard" to refer to anything other than clean shaven. That is not the typical definition, which is why you're receiving pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 05:03 PM
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People who love and fully trust their partner still fall victim to paternity fraud. Routine paternity testing is inexpensive and eliminates the social pressure against voluntary testing. This would be similar to the routine urine drug screening performed in labour and delivery. Do you consider that to be an accusation that the mother is taking drugs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 04:20 PM
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There’s no internal consistency to your comments. You’re not here to debate or seek truth; you’re just here to fling insults at guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 03:47 PM
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Yes but the cultural difference between Miami and Bumfuck, Iowa (especially among young people) is nowhere near as big as the difference between Kyiv and Singapore or Milan and Antipolo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:41 AM
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She’s being disingenuous under the guise of looking out for these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 02:30 AM
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Literally just move to a big city. There’s an abundance of tall, smart chads in finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:47 AM
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No that’s an insane comment. Most guys have not rejected a top tier woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:43 AM
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I get your point, but there’s a difference between generalizing Americans as a group and generalizing everyone who’s not American as a group. It’s not like the rest of the world has the same unifying culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/23 01:03 AM
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That is how guys feel about it. Actions speak louder than words. Sorry it doesn’t fit your interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 09:50 PM
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First of all it’s 44% vs 56%. And that’s counting stubble as a beard, which is debatable. “Sexiest man alive” is a PR award from a magazine, not a raw measure of the most attractive men in the world - does anyone really consider John Legend to be the peak male beauty standard? Also, full beards usually don’t look great on blond guys. It can make your face look puffier.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 06:35 PM
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I like how you’re approaching this topic with nuance, but unfortunately I don’t think it’s realistic to get men to stop caring about being attractive to women. There’s just too much biological and social pressure perpetuated by both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 03:33 PM
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No I’m saying that hetero men do not have a strong or predictable height preference. Hetero women generally prefer taller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:59 PM
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No but he might choose a 5’3” insta model over the 5’8” one. And her smaller size may even be seen as a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/23 11:50 PM
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Because there’s 32 teams and a lot of competition for a 7 figure job kicking a ball. There’s been some female kickers at the college level though. It would be hype to see at the pro level, but she would truly have to be a generational talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:12 AM
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Man the NFL would love if a team signed a female kicker. Think about the marketability
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 01:42 AM
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It doesn’t mean treating them like shit but it does mean treating them like an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/23 12:18 AM
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Yeah bro I have had a similar experience to you. There’s definitely many women out there who don’t fall under AWALT behavior. But if you narrow it down to young western women who are 7+/10…I haven’t really met an exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 06:44 PM
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Sorry man, that’s generally how it goes once you get enough experience and start seeing the same patterns. It’s still worthwhile to find joy in the world and develop your hobbies, fitness, and friendships. But understand that dating and sexual attraction comes down to a different set of rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:13 PM
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Honestly yeah, it cuts both ways. Most people are self-interested and will do what they can get away with. If the lonely guy who “just wants a gf” started getting attractive women in his DMs, I’m sure he’d soon find a need to “explore his sexuality.” Of course there are exceptions. But I do think most people are like that - they just don’t have the opportunity/pressure to act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 06:45 PM
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Guys grow up hearing that "basic concepts" like masculine confidence and going to the gym aren't important because "girls don't care about your muscles and money (that would be shallow!); they just want an emotionally intelligent man who treats them well." I'm not saying that every guy who struggles is a good person. But it shouldn't be a surprise that many of them end up bitter when they find they were misled by the people they trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 09:25 PM
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My unscientific estimate based on personal experience is 80-90% of women “are like that.” And the 10-20% who are not are disproportionately neurodivergent (not a bad thing), not conventionally attractive, and use sites like reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 07:38 PM
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This is far from the truth. I would fucking love to be sensitive and vulnerable in an equitable relationship. (I even have a sincere interest in 3rd wave feminism lol.) But for whatever reason that attitude seemed to be a turnoff for most young single girls - even the intelligent and progressive ones. So I tried a different strategy - being aggressive, masculine, selfish, and aloof - and what do you know, I started getting results. I don’t like that but I do accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/23 04:36 PM
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Okay but being the lead singer of the world’s biggest (second biggest?) boy band isn’t exactly “before he had status”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 06:40 PM
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Okay but 1D was already huge in 2011
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 05:33 PM
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You started this by saying Harry Styles is considered to be one of the most attractive men in the world. And somehow, before he was famous, he was even more universally seen as attractive? How does that make any sense? Especially since he got famous at 16 years old. So back in 2009, the actual sexiest man on earth was a 15 year old British boy working at a bakery?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:55 AM
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This has to be the most outrageous take I’ve ever seen on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:30 AM
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Lol did you just try and sneak in saying that Prince’s music sucks? Listen to Sign O the Times or Small Club 1988.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 04:28 AM
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Let’s be real: you could have 1000 guys telling you the same thing with 0 examples to the contrary and it wouldn’t change your mind one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 03:05 AM
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Okay I guess we can’t know anything without a peer-reviewed study. There’s no great push to understand male sexuality because in most cases it is that simple. Maybe the demisexual guys in your gender studies class need compatible interests to be turned on, but that’s not how most guys work. And where’s the support for your claims about how men think? It’s based on conjecture and no one is agreeing with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/23 12:17 AM
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It’s not an overpowering fantasy. It’s just a quick thought. And basically every straight guy is saying the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:53 PM
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Yeah it works exactly like you’re saying. I’m less horny than the average guy and don’t really watch porn. It’s still as basic as: see hot girl = want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:50 PM
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Because you can read minds? How tf are you telling men how they think?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:47 PM
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Not directly, but y’all gas each other up to an unrealistic extent. I’m still getting DMs calling me an incel for suggesting that Chris Evans’ gf isn’t doing charity work. Or on a topic about Jason Momoa and Lisa Bonet, there were tons of comments along the line of “let’s be real, she could do way better.” Like who? Sure she’s attractive, but she’s also a 55 year old single mom. Yet an attractive 6’4” A-list actor 12 years her junior counts as settling? Even outside of celebrities, look at any T…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/23 11:30 PM
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Lmao you think pro athletes are a good role model for positive masculinity? A vast majority of them cheat or are in a one-way open relationship. A good amount of them beat their partners. Their lifestyles demonstrate the kind of bad behavior you can get away with if you have enough status.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:34 PM
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Many kind, educated, UMC women still chase bad boys. You realize that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:25 PM
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Most of the guys gravitating to RP advice are the ones who did listen to women about what they find attractive. That advice doesn’t work. Because the advice is what they think they should find attractive, not what they actually respond to. Life would be so much fucking easier if it just came down to being a kind, respectful, honest person. Playing games is exhausting but it’s what works.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/23 09:21 PM
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You won’t get banned on this sub for suggesting women are interested in appearances. Maybe r/dating
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:45 PM
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Nah there’s more than enough fit/average guys that like chubby girls
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/23 07:44 PM
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Now you're arguing like a BPer lol. She has a point, even if I agree that it's better to be wanted for sex than not wanted for anything at all.
/r/AllPillDebate06/02/23 12:48 AM
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Yeah and if she stays through a real low in the future, then you know she’s loyal. But that’s probably not what will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/23 08:27 PM
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Idk about the low libido. As for ED, I highly recommend getting a prescription for Cialis. Just having it as an option greatly reduces anxiety over getting it up. Obviously you will still get rejected a good amount. Even neurotypical chads get rejected all the time - they just brush it off and keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:21 PM
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Evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:35 PM
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The thing is that no one else is using your definition of high value. Value is determined by the dating market. Men care about what gets results with young, attractive women. When women talk about a high value man, they are referring to things like his height, looks, and career. It would be pointless to say “actually a real HVM is someone who is committed to their family and community.” Because that’s not what people are taking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:29 PM
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It’s tough but it’s not over. You can definitely learn to mask enough for situationships and casual sex. Focus on body language and eye contact. If you’re attractive, people will initially project a certain image/ideal onto you. Go with the flow and don’t shatter this impression by talking too much or “being yourself.” Be mysterious, aloof, and unbothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 07:14 PM
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Lmao if only you knew
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/23 12:43 AM
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When Leo dates a 24 year-old model, it’s not other young girls commenting on how creepy he is and how he’s too immature for a woman his own age
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 09:12 AM
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Young women like them, older women don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/23 08:54 AM
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I meant the latter. Like if a couple has a baby, most women won’t want to be the breadwinner while their husband stays home.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:24 PM
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So when women don’t want to date a SAHD, it’s because of internalized misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 06:16 PM
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It’s weird how online BPers always have to put on an aggressive tough guy act to dunk on lonely men
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 05:50 PM
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So why does society shit on stay at home dads?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:45 PM
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Post an update if this happens. I’ll watch.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 05:39 PM
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Cope. Sure height matters but lifting helps everyone. People treat you better when you’re fit. Also you’ll put on muscle faster.
/r/AllPillDebate24/01/23 05:37 PM
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That’s what I’m saying. But you’re all over this thread insisting that TRP stuff only applies to a fringe class of unstable women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:33 PM
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Literally every time after a show…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/23 05:26 PM
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Honestly I’ve experienced and witnessed that enough times from kind, well-educated girls from good backgrounds. Many people are much less stable and secure than you’d expect. I guess there’s a whole lot of trauma going around.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 11:07 PM
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If you don’t think high school boys lie about having sex, I don’t think we will ever see eye to eye on this topic. Also, where’s the link to the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 06:31 PM
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She’s not gonna reply to this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:55 AM
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There is no chance in hell that is accurate today. Also people lie about these things even on anonymous surveys
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/23 04:31 AM
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Well it could affect your work or life…you just wouldn’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:25 PM
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That’s just a blatant lie. FDS was full of outright hatred.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 06:09 PM
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I don’t think it’s controversial to say that girls generally tend to want the guys that other girls want
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 03:05 AM
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Except it does work on most women, especially young attractive ones with options. It’s preselection and urgency. You can deny it til you’re blue in the face; every hetero guy with experience has learned this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 02:37 AM
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Yeah this is the truth - it’s just about if you’re hot. Which supports the OP. Most guys don’t get turned on by dread games.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/23 12:27 AM
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It’s real every year
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 08:00 PM
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Lmao hell no I can always get casual sex but I do acknowledge that I’m insanely privileged
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 08:32 AM
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I look like a chad (6’4” pretty boy) but am also autistic, which is why I go on this sub
/r/AllPillDebate15/01/23 01:53 AM
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You have a point, but those looksmax ratings go too far in the opposite direction in an attempt to be “objective.” Ryan Gosling is like a 4/10 PSL. Even ignoring status, that’s not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 11:52 PM
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One important thing to note is that mainstream dating advice has evolved in recent years to include certain RP concepts that have become impossible to ignore in the social media era. You can see the change over time in subs like this one and r/dating: 2015: “Girl don’t care about your physique; only guys will be impressed by your muscles. What matters is your personality and character.” 2019: “Lifting may help your dating prospects, but only because it improves your self-confidence and demonstra…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/23 10:31 PM
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I was BP until I hit puberty and became tall and attractive. Dating experience revealed common patterns of behavior that directly conflicted with the mainstream narrative. Whenever I’d bring this up with female friends, they’d deflect or gaslight me. Talking to other guys with experience reaffirmed this disconnect. Guys don’t get RP’d by other men - they get RP’d by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 09:29 PM
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Imagine if we took this approach to other societal issues. Women underrepresented in STEM programs? “That’s a personal problem. They need to adapt or die.”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/23 07:43 PM
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So are you just repulsed by the actors in every live-action TV show and movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:41 PM
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Yes you have. You just didn’t notice. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toupee_fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 08:17 PM
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It’s the prevailing beauty standard for both genders, so clearly your opinion is in the minority
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:55 PM
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Basically every actor, singer, model, and athlete has whitened teeth or veneers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 07:44 PM
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No it’s always been 30 - for example
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:14 AM
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Wizard status happens at 30, so you’ve already been living it man
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:50 AM
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Is there no situation where a woman or group of women holds power over a man or group of men? So a black man working for a white woman would still hold the position of power?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/23 07:06 PM
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It's very, very easy for men too. Honest questions, because I'm trying to understand your worldview: How much experience do you have with heterosexual dating as a man? Do you have a group of male friends? Are they romantically successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:44 PM
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How do you know his reasons? It’s not like he’s gonna make a public post saying “I can’t get laid at home so I’m moving to the east to get a girl”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:21 PM
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Maybe that’s true for some men, but definitely not the majority. Male friendships can be incredibly close and long-lasting. Girls complain all the time about their bf spending too much time with the boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:37 PM
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I can agree with this. It’s not every guy (or even most guys) who would do this, but it’s enough. And the risk is quite high in terms of time and emotional investment. So I guess transactional relationships are the only practical option for both genders. That’s a shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:32 PM
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Holy shit your whole post history is bitter and unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:17 PM
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How do you know they aren’t Asian? Or is that just an assumption you made to confirm your biases?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 07:31 PM
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Yeah words and story about the 6’5” billionaire’s chiseled abs
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:16 PM
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As far as reproduction goes, an uninhibited 80 IQ gangbanger is much more genetically attractive than a timid 120 IQ software dev
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:39 PM
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Society is made up of individuals. If enough individuals have a problem, it’s a societal problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:35 PM
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I’m mostly talking about reasonably attractive, highly educated, UMC women in North America and Western Europe. But I’m sure you can write them all off as trashy party girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:30 PM
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This is literally a discussion about the standards a guy has to meet to get his dick wet, so I don’t see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 09:10 PM
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Man I was an unemployed alcoholic and still could get laid bc I’m tall and attractive. Let’s not act like the “high standards” have anything to do with being a decent, stable member of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/22 07:29 PM
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You’re ignoring the hypothetical question in the OP
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 03:42 AM
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If he has a micropenis, I assume you’d know about it from the family doctor.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/22 03:04 AM
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How tall are you and how would you rate yourself out of 10?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 03:16 AM
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Trump is dumb as a rock and a complete fraud as a businessman, but he is the GOAT conman and managed to win the presidency, which counts for something. He’s a piece of shit but he’s still obviously a HVM.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/22 02:57 AM
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I agree it’s not as ubiquitous among women as it is with men, but it’s definitely still a thing. I’ve even heard it from my female friends when out drinking. Also the “he’s a 10 but…” meme was started by girls (TikTok video) and is still mostly popular with girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 06:35 PM
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The 1-10 scale is absolutely universal across genders and cultures. “He’s a 10 but…” That being said, one person’s 10 may be another’s 7.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/22 04:37 PM
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Man I’ve been shamed online and irl for dating a 22 year old at age 26. When I was 22, most of the girls in my class were dating older guys. It doesn’t affect my decision making at all, but the age gap shaming isn’t limited to extreme differences.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 05:37 PM
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This is your thread. It reflects on you that you can’t read 7 short paragraphs in response.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/22 04:35 AM
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28% is pretty surprising and a good bluepill statistic. Nice to see that for a change
/r/BlackPillScience31/10/22 03:25 AM
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It’s more about being taller than other guys tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:18 AM
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That rock best not miss. Size is still a big deal in basically any real fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:17 AM
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Masc lesbian chicks are redpilled af
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/22 01:03 AM
1

The truth is somewhere in the middle. MJ and Brady are obsessive about winning and it seems like nothing else brings them joy. The optimal lifestyle is probably the rung or two lower athletes - talented guys like Shaq or James Harden with a more balanced lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 09:46 PM
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And Obama was president, so I guess racism doesn’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 08:16 PM
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This is such a boring take. You’re saying that the only reason a guy might struggle with dating is because he’s a bad person. Attraction is not based on morality. Toxic guys get tons of play.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 05:23 PM
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It’s absolutely outrageous to me that you have “philosopher” in your name yet are so consistently unwilling to consider any information that could contradict your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 02:50 AM
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Hell no, of course all of those would be terrible policies. I’m just saying there should be a bit more compassion for men who can’t fulfill the expected life script. Maybe some social programs, maybe some community funding for alternative paths, maybe even look into SW solutions (doesn’t address the main problem but might soften it) Really just anything other than continuing to gaslight the growing number of lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 12:41 AM
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There’s a lot of ways which humans can behave “naturally” that are bad for society. We implement laws and regulations in service of the greater good. That’s one of the key roles of government.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/22 11:58 PM
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Well the obvious social etiquette is to take a free treadmill that is away from the occupied one. She violated that convention to go right next to OP, so it’s not unreasonable to see it as flirting.
/r/seduction08/09/22 10:31 PM
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Red pill works for basically every 6+ neurotypical woman. I’m sure there are exceptions out there - hopefully one day I will meet an autistic unicorn
/r/AllPillDebate01/09/22 02:29 AM
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I think you’re underestimating the amount of hatred and bullying toward undesirable men that is present in “progressive” circles. And after years of rejection despite doing the right things, they get told that the problem must be their personality and that women can sense their misogyny. Then comes along someone like Tate, who is successful with women despite being openly misogynistic. And even if some of his views are abhorrent, he actually has actionable advice instead of socially correct plat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:18 PM
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Based on how the sentence is written, your interpretation would make sense. But given the context of the post, it’s definitely just a grammar mistake. He’s talking about how frustrated men are “ripe for the picking” by RP creators.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:57 PM
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FDS was never quarantined. The mods took the sub private to try and bring people to another platform. Also, FDS has received positive op-eds from various mainstream publication.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/22 04:31 PM
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No one debates that. They are attractive celebrities. This isn’t anything new - girls used to go crazy for Aaron Carter.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:30 PM
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They like those guys despite their height. Do you think a Justin Bieber fangirl would be less attracted to him if he was 6’ instead of 5’5”?
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 04:24 PM
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Based ty for being straightforward and communicating well
/r/seduction20/08/22 02:47 AM
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Fine let’s extend this to erotica, much of which is written by women for women. There is basically no representation of short men, overweight men, men with a small penis. In comparison, there is a great deal of male-centric smut that positively depicts women with unconventional features (e.g. overweight, small boobs). This isn’t meant to be a value judgment; it’s just to show that a difference exists in terms of demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 05:28 PM
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But it exists for a sizable minority. Try and find some fetish porn about short men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 04:57 PM
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You’re consistently miserable and cruel but I gotta say I have always respected your honesty and willingness to speak openly about objective truths - in that sense we’re on the same team
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:29 AM
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Willpower is a finite resource
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:20 AM
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So men should ignore your words then and just observe your actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 02:20 AM
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Steph was a monster in college and still got drafted behind the 7’3” Hasheem Thabeet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 04:31 PM
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It’s not that. It’s understanding that this type of guy won’t change his behavior unless the incentive changes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:51 AM
1

Yeah those lazy fucks should hit the gym and put on some height
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:50 PM
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It is definitely not necessary lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/22 02:21 AM
2

I agree that desirable men don’t struggle to get initial interest from women. But there’s a lot of ways to turn a girl off in the dating process, so a desirable man can still struggle to capitalize on the initial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 11:32 AM
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Yeah I agree it’s not a very kind term, but it is descriptive of the thought process for most of these guys. I am guilty of this as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 11:40 PM
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The post says “struggle to some degree.” Sometimes desirable men still struggle to some degree, it’s just to a lesser degree than men who aren’t as desirable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:24 PM
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Pro athletes and celebrities still get rejected by women. Civilian Chads will get rejected more often than not by the attractive women they are interested in. That’s why desirable guys dumpster dive for easy sex on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 07:34 PM
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Put on some muscle obviously. I’m 210 lbs lean (~12-15% bf) at the same height and still absolutely scrawny compared to athletes at this size
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/22 04:04 AM
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“You want it to be one way…But it’s the other way.”
/r/TheRedPill15/06/22 02:53 AM
1

Is that evidence? The overwhelming majority of women here said they wouldn’t date a guy with tattoos. That doesn’t match up with the broader trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:20 PM
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Sure but the reason isn’t always because the guy did something morally bad. It’s common for girls to lose attraction after a guy expresses an insecurity or weakness or reveals a lack of experience/confidence. And that’s fine, but it does mean that guys learn from experience to be aloof and emotionally unavailable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/22 07:04 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy_in_the_workplace
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:14 PM
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Being ruthless and lacking empathy is a huge advantage in the professional world
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/22 09:08 PM
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That happens all the time in reality. For example, college kids interviewing at investment banks only want to work there for 2 years before jumping to PE/HF/etc. But during the interview they will definitely say they plan on staying for the long-term.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:21 AM
1

Based on your comments, I have to assume you’re at least 35+. The dating market is different for the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 06:55 PM
1

Except the male beauty standard (i.e. Marvel actors) requires steroids and extreme dieting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/22 05:06 PM
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Those are regulations that apply to stocks being traded on a given exchange. But the stocks represent actual companies that have to operate under many region- and industry-specific regulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:30 PM
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You misunderstand what I mean by market failure. Per wiki: “Market failures can be viewed as scenarios where individuals' pursuit of pure self-interest leads to results that are not efficient – that can be improved upon from the societal point of view … Market failures are often associated with public goods, time-inconsistent preferences, information asymmetries, non-competitive markets, principal–agent problems, or externalities.”
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 10:11 PM
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We don’t have an entirely free market - that’s the point. There are regulations put into place all the time to address market failures, leading to more efficient economic outcomes across society.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 09:58 PM
1

Great post. But is the thirst in spite of her being a serial or because she is a serial killer?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:13 AM
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Exactly. Kinda like how “literally” can now mean “figuratively,” AWALT is used to mean “enough” women are like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:29 AM
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You seem like a unicorn tbh. Hope your man treats you well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 12:31 PM
0

For resistance training, women have a higher volume tolerance and shorter recovery period than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 06:50 PM
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That’s assuming all of those traits are independent of one another. In reality a tall, good looking guy will tend to have a higher income as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/21 06:37 PM
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It’s weird that you quote the wiki article on ‘masculinity’ instead of toxic masculinity, which is a widely discussed term with meaning beyond its root words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:07 PM
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Unironically if ER survived and was in prison, he’d be getting way more female interest than he did prior.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 06:38 PM
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It is on men. Male thirst is a major factor behind the current dating market. But really it seems like you’re mad because you’re not attractive enough to get away with being high maintenance around the guys you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:19 PM
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Men don’t “like” emotional women - they tolerate them for sex. It might seem that way because the most attractive women can get away with being more emotional/irrational without pushback.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:54 PM
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Of course it’s cherry-picking; you’re missing the point. Obviously most of the highly upvoted answers in the thread will be reasonable, socially acceptable preferences. It feels good to share and it feels good to read. But in practice, most romantic and sexual decisions are made on an instinctual, emotional level. And people - women especially - have other, less noble requirements and expectations that often go unspoken because of social desirability bias or lack of self-awareness. So it’s refre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:44 PM
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The point is that these are the actually honest answers. The top voted responses are all socially desirable requirements like “helps with housework” and “isn’t afraid to share his emotions.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 07:36 PM
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You have some out of touch takes but you generally discuss in good faith. Nowhere near as crazy as someone like Lilith or midwestufohunter.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 12:51 AM
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IMO video games and capeshit is the male equivalent of Netflix and astrology. But it’s not exactly controversial to tell a guy he needs to develop more interesting hobbies than those.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:38 PM
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I didn’t say they had to be interested in sports and video games. I just meant that it would be nice if more women had a fulfilling assortment of hobbies. Many of my male friends are in LTRs with kind, high quality girls. But the guys have all expressed frustration with their gfs constantly relying on them for entertainment and activities. If anything, the opposite gender equivalent would be saying you wished more guys had interests beyond video games and porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 05:21 PM
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Idk it would be nice if more women had genuine interests beyond Netflix, astrology, and cute animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/21 04:56 PM
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Good point. But remember TikTok is far more representative of mainstream ideology than 4chan.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 11:27 PM
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It says a lot that you think Harry Styles and Timothee Chalamet are no names. They are two of the guys most lusted after by zoomer chicks
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/21 07:59 PM
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What women say they like and what they actually respond to are very different things
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/20 03:46 AM
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Excellent analogy, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/19 02:46 AM
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Yeah...welcome to girls. Having a good personality is not necessarily a good personality for getting laid.
/r/seduction24/10/18 07:48 PM
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Yeah...welcome to girls. Having a good personality is not necessarily a good personality for getting laid.
/r/seduction24/10/18 07:47 PM
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