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skizzleshiver/r/MGTOW14/01/18 05:57 PM
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Just because a guy has been in a relationship doesn’t mean that he isn’t currently desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:36 PM
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Did you read my previous replies? I have no trouble getting women. Doesn’t mean I’m a feminist or support sex work. In fact, I strongly look down on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:35 PM
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This is because average men and average women have different goals and strategies that are often conflicting. This is why I advocate average and low tier men to move to a country that caters to men, as opposed to countries like the US (which caters to women).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:17 PM
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Did you read what I wrote? Where did I say anything about a woman belonging to a man? Women’s standards are way more ridiculous now. They weren’t so bad in the past. Maybe strippers don’t concern themselves with being loyal to their men, but it’s something that I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:02 PM
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They are willing to date you despite the fact that you’re a sex worker. That means they’re desperate. That’s practically the same thing as being a cuckold.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 11:00 PM
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No I’ll take a wife, thanks. I’m okay with hiring people to cook and clean. I do want someone that’s loyal, wants children (rare thanks to shitty feminism), and that’s supportive in my business ventures. No current kids. I have a mother. I don’t need another.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:41 PM
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I’m American. But yes we would definitely never date. Again, this is a perfect display of gender inequality. A woman could prostitute herself and still date quality guys that know what she does. This is how desperate western men have become. No wonder women are as picky as they are. There are no repercussion to their actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:37 PM
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I don’t blame women per se. I blame feminism and women’s lib, which is the worst thing that could have happened to 80% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:34 PM
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Yeah unfortunately our society has declined significantly in its values. What’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:30 PM
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You said that, not me. I’m from NYC too. I will allow that it’s much better there than on west coast or Midwest. I’m also Italian (Italian born parent). Italian women are definitely not as superficial on height as American women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:29 PM
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Yes. Read through my post history for more info. And, yes, I will judge you for being a stripper.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 10:26 PM
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You're a strippper? Hahahaha wtf. So you're low quality. And then you judge men on height and weight? You have a lot of nerve, lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:40 PM
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Exactly. Just proves the point. Women are much more shallow - they hate short guys, hate fat guys, hate ugly guys, hate low-income guys, hate Asian guys, etc. And that's just the average girl. This doesn't even account for personal preferences. Terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:36 PM
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The difference is that a guy would still date a less attractive girl if she had other redeeming qualities. Women would not date a shorter guy regardless of redeeming qualities. Women are too shallow for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:33 PM
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If you're going by just the way it looks (to the outside world), then, yes, this is the definition of shallow. This is the primary reason why women care about height, in my opinion. It's not the protection nonsense. Random attacks are very rare. I'm a short guy from New York City. I've been to some very rough areas (both with women and alone) and I've never even come close to having been attacked or jumped. I don't know anyone that this has happened to either. Women want tall men for status and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/20 07:29 PM
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I've never seen or experienced that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 07:32 PM
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First, I wasn’t responding directly to the OP. Second, it still does directly refute your OP. If men do attack short men, it’s only because women view men negatively. Therefore, it’s the fault of women. So this is not “hamstering”. It’s logic. But I guess I can’t expect intelligent responses from a person that can’t use proper grammar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 06:35 PM
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It doesn’t. Men out down short men occasionally to impress women....because women are impressed by this behavior. If women weren’t impressed by it, men wouldn’t do it. Therefore, if women did not dislike short men, men wouldn’t do this. In conclusion, this directly refutes your claim. Next time, before you try to be insulting, check your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:54 PM
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None of this really applies to me personally. I've never had a man put me down and I've rarely had women put me down for my height (the only recent time that comes to mind was an ugly former stripper that I used to work with....then COVID came along and I was played an integral part in her getting laid off 🤷). Personally, I've found that race plays the biggest part in how a woman views height. In general, black women are straight-up nasty to short men. White women typically just won't date short…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:36 PM
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Why are you facepalming? This is accurate. Men only put down short men to impress women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:27 PM
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The fat girl should just lose weight. Then the shirt wouldn't be about her. Problem solved. Unfortunately, a short guy can't just grow whenever he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:25 PM
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Black women are definitely the nastiest of all races towards short men. I doubt you'll get much sympathy from the short male community.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/20 05:19 PM
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Show me an objective study. You can’t because there aren’t any.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/20 08:17 AM
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There’s no way to prove or disprove it because you can’t trust the evidence. But do you know how you know when you are losing an argument? You start needing to insult your opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 07:58 PM
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Yes, I did say that. There are many falsely accused men out there. However, they are not covered in the data because the data is unreliable. When you say that the data shows that there are few false rape accusations, my original point is actually accentuated. So thanks, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:41 PM
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I have the 10 year Chinese business visa and plan on moving out there in early 2021 (as soon as this coronavirus nonsense passes).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:37 PM
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I don’t think you understand what hypocrisy means. None of the data is reliable because it’s all subjective. All of it. False rape percentages as well. Anything to do with rape is subjective. A woman could simply change her mind and claim rape. People would be none-the-wiser. My stance has been very clear and straightforward. It’s simply that true rape is uncommon and, truthfully, can’t be measured due to the subjectivity of the events.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 05:05 PM
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Don’t feel sorry for me. This doesn’t affect me at all. Feel sorry for the many falsely accused men out there. Also, feel sorry for the attention seekers. They should get a hobby or a job instead of occupying their time with this nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 04:48 PM
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No and I’ve never reported that I have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 02:48 AM
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They get attention and sympathy, maybe revenge, maybe money. How can sexual assaults be counted if they aren’t reported? Are they based on subjective surveys? If so, then that’s not really reliable data.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 11:13 PM
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Does that statistic represent women that have actually been raped or ones that just claim to have been raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 10:02 PM
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Glad I could help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 03:11 AM
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Exactly. This man gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:30 AM
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China has a 2 child policy now. After you hit 2 children, then you just have to pay to have more children. In many ways, China does things way better than America.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 02:28 AM
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Don’t be sad, kitten. Everything will be okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/20 12:44 AM
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Happy to give you something to talk about in your next therapy session.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:56 PM
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You sound traumatized by my comment. Thanks for proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 11:36 PM
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A swift wind traumatizes most women in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 09:28 PM
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I can’t speak for everyone, but I get laid and I’m fiscally conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 09:05 PM
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I don’t drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:25 PM
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I’m just relaying my personal experience and a logical explanation. If you go out to clubs and pick up girls, you’ll likely see the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 07:04 PM
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That’s not a particularly large sample size.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:56 PM
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Short guy here (so definitely not top 20% by definition). I’ve found that the vast majority of women don’t want to use a condom with me. I don’t think it has as much to do with attractiveness as it does with women just not being very responsible. This would also explain why there are so many single mothers (irresponsible girl get horny, doesn’t want to use a condom, and oftentimes forgets to take her birth control).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/20 06:44 PM
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That works too. But it also works with non-escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 04:09 PM
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I don't think that the father should bear responsibility. This is something that occurs in many other countries throughout the world and is the right choice, in my opinion. By doing this, it also forces the presumptive mother to act more responsibly and choose her mates more wisely as well. Did you know that China not only doesn't hold the father responsible, but actually taxes single mothers? Bravo, China. Bravo!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 07:17 AM
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Yes, I consider it to be an insult.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:48 AM
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This has nothing to do with a fetus being considered a person. Upon the discovery of conception (or at some determined in the future, such as 12 weeks, as you mention), there should be mandatory meetings to discuss this issue. At that point, it should be legally determined whether or not the pregnancy should take place. Documents should be signed, decisions should be made. At that point, anyone that breaks the contract should be on the hook. So, as I said, I disagree with you, our current laws, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 05:46 AM
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No, I'm not wrong. You are citing laws that I personally disagree with. I believe that if a woman becomes pregnant, there should be some kind of agreement required before moving forward with (or terminating) the pregnancy. If there is no such agreement, I believe that the woman should be held solely responsible. So I can and do disagree with both you and the current laws in the US. This is why I never plan on having children in any country that has such laws. I would like to have as many rights …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 02:06 AM
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I disagree. But, either way, it's not my problem. I've kept myself safe from all of that nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:56 AM
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Yeah pretty much, unfortunately. Or just giving off weird vibes. Good looking guys can be creepy too. Just google Rodney Alcala on The Dating Game for more information on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:54 AM
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If she chooses to keep the child against the father's wishes, the father shouldn't have to pay for it. This is one of the reasons why I've avoided having kids with previous girlfriends despite them wanting to. In the US, the father has no reproductive rights. When I do have kids, it won't be here. That's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:30 AM
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Typically, if you throw money and attention at a woman (without crossing the creepy line), she'll have sex with you. Just my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/20 12:27 AM
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Most men don't put as much time and effort into their appearance as most women. Women wear makeup and are very conscious of their looks, while most men don't really care. This is likely because women respond to other things besides pure looks (humor, presence, charisma, etc.), whereas most men just respond to looks. I'm a straight guy. So I'm obviously biased in that I find females attractive and men unattractive. But this would be my guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:26 PM
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I'm not sure how to quantify attractiveness. I've been told that I'm cute. But I also developed significant strategy and charisma. So while I did get laid every now and then from bars and clubs at first, my success skyrocketed once I developed various strategies. So while my looks helped, I think my ability to learn and adapt is what really pushed me to the next level. At one point, I could compete with the tallest and best looking guy in the bar and, oftentimes, I would win.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:20 PM
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Porn doesn't have a negative effect on men. In my case, porn allowed me to stop chasing tail and spend time building up my business instead. One can make the argument that the increase in porn may allow more men to check out and do other things. Since most women are not attracted to most men anyway, this is probably also beneficial to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:03 AM
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I'm a short guy and used to have casual sex often, sometimes within minutes of meeting girls. This was in bars and clubs though before OLD became a big thing (I'm probably older than most here - mid 30s).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:54 AM
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Nothing wrong with hookers. Risky in the US, but legal in many other countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 06:43 AM
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I have a brother that died. I plan to name my first child after him. Classier choice, in my opinion. Although your hypothetical situations are acceptable, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:43 PM
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Tattoos aren’t for non-conformists anymore. Everyone has a tattoo. If anything, I equate tattoos with the lower class.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 04:08 PM
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An hour a day really isn’t too much to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:44 PM
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That’s a lot of nonsense. At one point, I had a full time demanding job, my own business, and I was taking online classes, but still found time to spend an hour a day on the phone with my gf. Sounds like poor time management and excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 03:04 PM
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Something similar, albeit to a lesser degree, is already happening in Japan.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:49 AM
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I like women that are always available. Why would I want a woman that takes forever to respond to me or has so much going on that she doesn't have time to chat? When I have girlfriends, I usually spend hours per day on the phone with them, just because I like to talk to them. This is part of the problem with modern dating, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/20 07:41 AM
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Divorce (or at least no-fault divorce) should be illegal if for no reason than to benefit the children. There should be mandatory durations of courting and mandatory background checks before getting married. This would ensure efficiency. People are stupid. The vast majority need to be guided through the process very carefully or they will make the wrong decision. Ultimately, marriage is a legal contract. In no other sphere are legal contracts allowed to be broken so easily outside of this. Of co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:09 AM
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This is not surprising. But betas do get caught up in this (as you said). I'm just happy to have experienced college at a time when I could fuck a girl and not have to worry about getting slapped with a rape accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 03:02 AM
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And why would you move to a third world country just to get married? When you can stay in a first world one and just not get married? I'm confused. I want kids. If I didn't want kids, truthfully, I would not want to deal with women at all in any country. The position you described is having so much money you don't need to work. I don't think that is realistic for most people, although yes I do think most people can do pretty well for themselves in the West if they're at least average intelligenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/18 02:59 AM
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What countries are these? I'm pretty sure you can't escape it within many Western ones. Although I've heard you can choose between different forms of marriage in France and one includes not combining assets. But then you'd have to live in France with French people. Seems easier to just not get married. I mean non-Western countries. I can see why you have the view you do if you have enough money you can live well without having to work, but surely you understand this is not the case for the vast …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/18 03:11 AM
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Except in the situation you describe you have just set yourself up perfectly for divorce rape, you get that right? If you earn all the cash and wifey is a SAHM you will get divorce raped like you just dropped the soap in a prison shower. Yes, in the US, if a woman does not earn a good wage, she is typically lazy, stupid, and entitled. This fact has not escaped me. This is why, as I wrote multiple times in this thread, I would never marry an American woman nor would I ever get married to any woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:58 PM
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Prior to starting my business, I easily made a living in that threshold (in my 20s) as a single male. Now, I make much more than that with my business. From what I've seen, women making $100k+ typically shuttle their children off to daycare. That's a no go for me. Parents should raise their children in my humble opinion and not pay someone else to do it. Again, personally, I don't need nor want a woman that's as dedicated to her career as she is to her family. So I'm more concerned with a woman'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:53 PM
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Having shared life goals doesn't mean that we have to be the same person. I'm more concerned about a woman that is extremely family-oriented and wants a lot of kids than someone that wants to work. This is why I went so hardcore and made so much money - so I can live comfortably with a family-oriented woman who is not focused on her career (in a divorce-rape-free environment, of course). I don't understand why a man would settle for a career woman and not go hard making a ton of money himself...…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:23 AM
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Why not make fuck you money on your own and then find a wife afterwards? Personally, I'd rather have a wife that cooks and cleans for me while I work 24/7 (which I don't, but I'd be okay with it if I did) than a wife that is a high powered executive that doesn't have time for family and raising the kids. To each their own, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 07:17 AM
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Why don't you just make a lot of money yourself? That's the masculine thing to do. I make enough money where I could easily settle with a woman that doesn't work and have no issues (of course, not with a woman in the US since I don't want to get divorce-raped).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/18 08:28 AM
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Lol can't speak for other guys, but I'd never fuck a morbidly obese chick no matter how nice she is to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 07:15 PM
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This would not be my definition of "creepy", but that word is used so often these days, it's pretty much just means "the guy that I don't like that's talking to me".
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:48 PM
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Women get hit on all the time, both pretty and ugly. Ugly women just get hit on by less desirable men. But, really, it doesn't matter how often they get hit on IRL. Many women meet their significant others online anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/18 11:45 PM
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I agree. Women are culpable in the current eugenics movement. But I hope to be involved in the forefront of the next generation of eugenics. Women will be less of involved because their little brains won't be able to understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:13 PM
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Same. I'm short, but was blessed with a cute enough face (where I've been approached in bars and have heard women talking about how cute I am when they think I'm not listening). I couldn't imagine being short, bald, ugly, and introverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:58 PM
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Eugenics will hopefully be coming back in the near future.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:56 PM
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According to beliefs in the US, men can't be victims, only perpetrators.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:55 PM
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Men as a whole built all of it. I'm currently in the process of building something too. As a general rule, men build, then women use and destroy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 07:52 PM
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To be fair, I am superior. They just happen to correctly recognize that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:15 PM
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Philippines is not the exception in Asia. I've found that all of Asia is pretty great place to go for women, both in terms of quality and quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 08:35 AM
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LOL don't get married in the US. Too risky for guys that have some capital to their name.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:19 AM
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The most obvious is the Philippines.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:18 AM
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Try to find a way out of the US. I used to be like you: constantly banging my head against the wall and trying to please women. Why? They don't give a shit about pleasing you. The world is a big place, my friend. Why stay where you aren't appreciated for being you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:08 AM
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Only in the western world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:03 AM
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I've lived in both the US and Canada. They have a very similar culture. The women, especially, are spoiled brats in both places.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 07:00 AM
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I have a science background so I agree that this study can't be truly evaluated without more information. However, any guy with his eyes open know how women are these days. That's why the results of this "study" are so believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:56 AM
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Why would I want to marry a used up whore when I have money and can afford better?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:26 AM
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Not that poster, but that is my plan personally, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:25 AM
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Nice. I definitely support not marrying American women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/18 06:24 AM
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Why anybody would want a white American girl over a foreign girl is beyond me. As a white guy, the foreigners can have them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/18 07:07 PM
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Did you see the rest of my comment? There are but there are far less of them due to the decrease in values in my generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/18 09:56 PM
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People are pretty simple and predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 06:40 PM
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Yes there are. I'm sorry that you don't know any of them. Although I will admit that the quality of people (and their values) has decreased in my generation. So there are many more people with red flags than there used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 06:40 PM
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There are still spaces women don't invade. Become an entrepreneur. Women are typically not entrepreneurs because most aren't intellectually capable of doing so. The ones that are are typically pretty bad at it. I'm an entrepreneur and there are almost no women that run in these circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 04:23 PM
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Sure it is. It's easy to predict. Look at their past behaviors and how they respond to adversity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:46 PM
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I'm not sure who you surround yourself with, but there are many people that don't have red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 03:44 PM
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I'm not sure I understand the question. Housework and child rearing are the responsibilities of the women. You just don't think they are because feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 08:52 AM
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This is why you date someone before marrying them, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:59 AM
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I've made bad relationship decisions too. Difference is I didn't marry them and I didn't blind myself in terms of who they really are. Most women that end up in situations like that poster marry a walking red flag. Everybody else can see it but them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:59 AM
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Sounds like you're mother should have picked a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/18 01:17 AM
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She could just move to one of those places on her own volition. I had a friend that this happened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 05:29 PM
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Who cares if they see this as a positive? This is the primary cause of mass shootings. The vast majority of mass shooters are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 05:06 AM
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Singapore is not a good place to find a woman. Also, it's a bad idea to bring a girl back to the US. Foreign Woman Dating 101.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 05:05 AM
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Best solution: single mother tax
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:35 AM
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Nah. Create a single mother tax like China.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:32 AM
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Depends on what your goals are. I'd rather go with gestational surrogacy than settle with a girl in the US. Too risky.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 01:21 AM
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Well, there is gestational surrogacy. But this option is only available to guys with money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:06 AM
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I highly doubt that any women are being left out of the SMP. A ton of guys probably are though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:51 AM
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What happens? Mass murder. I suspect that this the reason that this phenomenon is getting worse (and will continue to get worse).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:49 AM
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Perfect example of why any mid to low SMV guy is best served by leaving western countries. I suspect that the US and other western countries are not far behind Scandinavian countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 07:46 AM
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Ah but there is a cheat sheet. I have one. It's called Date Foreign Women Outside of the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:55 PM
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Ok cool. Thanks for the tips!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 02:52 PM
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Thanks for the tips! I just spoke with him and the place is called Dongguan (apparently, it's more of a city than a village). And yeah, our business plans would fit quite nicely in Shenzhen. Frankly, this is the reason why I'm looking closely at China. It's a good combination of quality women and business opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:52 AM
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Sorry for the delay. I've been really busy and didn't get on reddit for a few days. Right now, I'm building my business. So once this takes off to the point that I could quit my day job, I'm gonna move in this direction. As far as the city, I have no idea. One of my business partners is Chinese. He has a ton of family in some village somewhere in southern China and his grandmother is the matriarch. She wants to hook all of us up so I figure I'll start there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:17 AM
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I think that poster was saying that those women were making these things up and you fell for it because you wanted to believe them. The fact is if they chose better men, the men would stick around. There's a reason why poor and stupid parents tend to have poor and stupid children.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 08:11 AM
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Height is by far the most important thing to American women. You don't know this because you don't live here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 02:52 PM
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This comment serves no other purpose than to insult. I wasn't even responding to you. Do you have an actual argument? What are "the realities of male behavior"? I'm genuinely curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:27 AM
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You're a lawyer, right? Do you not believe in the principle of innocent until proven guilty?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:25 AM
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Again, this is CONCEPTUALLY similar. Many of these men are getting sued and losing money because of these allegations. Specific names: James Franco: Why would he need to rape anybody? Girls love him. Nick Carter: LOL seriously? Ron Jeremy: He fucked tons of girls in porn. He didn't need to rape anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:12 AM
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Exactly. I wouldn't get you to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:07 AM
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I think many of these guys were ugly, awkward guys that fucked women based on their status and money. They are betas. The women regretted it and told their friends. Then, all of a sudden, they were convinced that they were raped. That or they are able to get some secondary gain from this. I've seen this enough times in person to know that it is more common than actual rape. Sorry. I'm sure that this will piss off most women, but I've been in positions of power and directly dealt with subordinate…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:07 AM
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I'm saying that it is my personal opinion that they're sleazebags and [b]probably[/b] did what these women are saying they did. Bolded for emphasis. I don't know if they did it or not. I don't know them personally. And neither do you. And neither does the rest of the retards in our country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:03 AM
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I already told you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:01 AM
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Nope, but his life was ruined. So it's a good comparison in that it is a similar concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:01 AM
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See my other reply. I think these men "came forward" as a way to take the focus off of them. If they continue to fight it, they will just end up looking worse since people have already made up their minds that these men are guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 03:00 AM
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It's a good comparison....because people's lives were destroyed based on accusations without evidence. It's not a man-woman thing. It's a people thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:59 AM
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by hypergamy, you mean sleep with men? or i just skip 80% of unsuitable males and straight to the top guys? you are mistaken to believe we women dont want multiple partners (although not at the same time). Nope. You are mistaken. nothing, he will not find out. i have cucked males like this before. there is no way they can tell my n count even if they tried. Any guy that is paying attention can tell. It's called slut tells.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:58 AM
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Why do I need evidence that they are making things up? Shouldn't THEY need evidence a guilty verdict? Many of these men's lives have been destroyed based on allegations that have not been proven to be true. Again, this nonsense is like the Salem Witch Trials.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:56 AM
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Are they not people like everyone else? Just because they're powerful doesn't mean they're going around trying to rape everyone. Again, innocent until PROVEN guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:55 AM
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All of them. I've seen no proof that these men actually did anything. And, by law, we are innocent until proven guilty....unless, of course, it is a woman accusing a man of something. Then it's guilty until proven innocent. Again, there is no evidence that these men actually did anything besides the words of unknown women with unknown motives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:53 AM
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I believe that the men are admitting to things because what can they really say? There is no need to present evidence. There is just the court of public opinion. So the women lie and make things up. The men don't fight against it because that will draw more attention and instead just say "Ok I did it." so that it all just goes away. Because, again, these are just women trying to ruin these guys' careers. Salem Witch Trial type stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:50 AM
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I think most didn't....or at least not to the degree that they are being reported. I think these women are making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:48 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weinstein_effect The vast majority of men on that list I believe were wrongfully accused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:45 AM
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It has nothing to do with misogyny. Not everything has to do with misogyny. Men are programmed to fuck anything that moves. Women are programmed for hypergamy. If a woman is fucking every Tom, Dick, and Harry and then makes her long-term guy wait, what is that saying to the long term guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:44 AM
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There are some guys that are getting accused of trying to kiss girls 30 years ago lol. It's ridiculous. And then there's that Aziz whatever. Yeah, he's ugly and faggy, but basically that girl fucked him and regretted it and then cried rape. It wouldn't surprise me if most of the accusations went something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:37 AM
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Don't blame me. Blame biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:35 AM
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Metoo is way for women to get attention (and possibly money) by accusing rich and famous men of everything and anything. So glad I'm not famous right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:34 AM
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Fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:32 AM
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Nope. Men and women are different so different rules apply to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 02:32 AM
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Men and women are different. So men should not be held to this standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:49 AM
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Yeah as opposed to caddy backstabbing. Yes, some men are pathetic losers, but others do great things and change the world. Women, as a whole, are incapable of making significant changes to the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:49 AM
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This is not the worst way to solve a dispute.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:21 AM
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I thought you were looking for less masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:17 AM
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I'm not a woman, but, according to studies, women are less happy than they were in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 07:12 AM
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Everyone has preferences. Some men prefer not to date a woman who was a raging whore in the past. Who are we to judge?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:49 AM
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That's more MGTOW you're talking about. I think RP guys are more realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:21 AM
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Bug spray is much quicker and a permanent solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:11 AM
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What's he addicted to? I'm guessing you married young. With the girls I used to date, I would have been in the same situation had I gotten married before 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:57 AM
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Agreed. Low SMV men get shit tested far more than high SMV guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:55 AM
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Don't get married in the US. Simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:46 AM
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Eh you married a bad boy. Bad boys do drugs. He's lucky that you're leaving the property to him though. Good on you for that. You are not the norm in this regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 01:45 AM
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Women are responsive to the top men. That knocks how 80-90% of the male population who need to work at it and prove their worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:24 PM
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Yup. This.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 08:24 PM
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Longevity is irrelevant to natural selection and evolution. Evolution only "cares" about an organism during its reproductive years, after that the organism's survival is irrelevant to the species. I disagree. Longevity is absolutely important for natural selection and evolution. And even if natural selection just cared about people in their reproductive years, height and race literally have no bearing on one's ability to reproduce (aside from women choosing these guys). Increased height and cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:37 PM
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What makes you think that a logical solution for a fly in your house is to burn down the house? That's not logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:11 PM
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I suppose that's possible in theory. I've never seen it play out in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:10 PM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:10 PM
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gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:28 PM
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Eh no. I could just pay for it or jerk off if I really wanted to bust a nut. I pretty much look at sex as a sign of interest. If she's fucking me, she's interested. If she's not fucking me, she's fucking someone else and not interested in me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:23 PM
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He has the genetics so he doesn't need to put in any work. Most guys don't have these kinds of genetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:14 PM
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No it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 12:09 PM
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Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:48 AM
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I've known thousands of women in my life. "Pragmatic" is not a word that I would use to describe most of them. From what I've seen, men make way better life decisions than women overall. Well, at least, the men that I know do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:47 AM
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I don't think this exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:44 AM
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Why would a guy want to pursue something further with a girl that won't fuck him? We know she's fucking others. Also, why do we need to have a million threads with the same topic at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:43 AM
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In the western world, if a woman is actually attracted to a man, she will have sex with him very quickly. If she is not very attracted, she will make him wait while fucking others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:41 AM
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Personally, I think women should wait. However, no woman would wait with a top guy (not in our current promiscuous society). Men all know this. So this is why we believe that we are wasting our time if the woman makes us wait. As I said in the past, I split my time between the US and China. I do date in China and I am put off there if a woman sleeps with me quickly. But China is still a respectable culture with reasonably good morals. In the US, I would not wait past a date or 2 for sex. Because…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:36 AM
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Not even close. For men, it's don't be short and don't be Asian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:31 AM
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I think everybody knows that no one actually cares what men think. So it doesn't make any difference anyway. In any event, female solipsism is very dangerous for society as a whole. It's make me a ton of money personally so I support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:30 AM
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I always assumed that they weren't attracted to me and were just interested in using me somehow for other things. From what I've seen, if a girl is truly interested in a guy, she can't take her hands off of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:27 AM
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Fair enough. This might be my own hang-up, but I've just never been able to date a girl for a longer period of time when she wasn't putting out even if I was looking for an LTR. Maybe it's the red pill guy in me, but I always pictured the girl fucking some other guy while using me for dates. Obviously, this turned me off and usually resulted in me just breaking things off with the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 09:53 AM
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This is very manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:50 AM
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Mixed signals are a woman's attempt to control us and remain "mysterious". You should head over to The Rational Male. Rollo has great pieces on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:49 AM
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Females are known for their solipsism. Not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 05:11 AM
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There's no such thing. I think you may be confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 04:10 AM
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Gonna have to agree with darkmoon and ask you to elaborate here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 03:02 AM
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I'm talking about something that's realistic. No sane man would be willing to go through that amount of pain, develop arthritis unnecessarily, and likely shorten their life just for pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:55 AM
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You could apply that to your own argument, not so much mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:53 AM
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No you don't know what solipsism means. It's very obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 02:00 AM
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I agree. Your comments do come off that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:35 AM
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I don't think you understand the meaning of solipsism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:33 AM
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Females are unable to adequately analyze their own behaviors and emotions because they are too emotional. That's all there is to it. It's very simple. Therefore, females are unable to identify their own solipsism. Men also can express solipsism as well. However, this is not natural for them under normal circumstances. Since men are raised as defective women, this is becoming more common, but is still fairly uncommon. There are no studies to back this up because that would be against the feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:41 PM
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Always the victim, never the perp, eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 08:36 PM
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Well, it is a feminist argument to throw out insults randomly (see "punkin"). In any event, I do think that your argument is based on emotion and, in general, women are not able to identify their own solipsism. So your reactions and responses are not surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:33 PM
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Hey, don't blame me for female solipsism. Blame evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:18 PM
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Hey, don't blame me for female solipsism. Blame evolution. You didn't say anything worth arguing. You simply made an angry post about how female solipsism is bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:18 PM
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Depends on your goals. I want a family. Not a good idea to create this as a low SMV guy in modern America.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:16 PM
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Hey, don't blame me for female solipsism. Blame evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 07:15 PM
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As I said, men don't do this a whole lot. If they do it, they are more than likely somewhat feminine in their behaviors. Remember, masculinity is under attack and many boys are raised as "defective girls". So many of the masculine traits have been washed away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:54 PM
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My experience was pretty good. Of course, women weren't more attracted to me when they found out I was struggling (at a particular time of my life), but my family and friends were very supportive. The males and females in my life, alike, were very supportive. However, I come from a high SES UMC background. All of my friends are professionals or highly successful entrepreneurs. My family is small, but close knit and successful professionals. I would imagine that this plays a large part in their r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:22 PM
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There's no such thing as male solipsism. At the very least, it's far less than female solipsism. Either way, I don't think that most men think that women are weeping at their cars. RP guys acknowledge how easy women have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 06:14 PM
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There is a wall, but I also work in healthcare. Totally not abnormal to see a doctor dating a younger girl. An 18 year old? Nope. But a 30-40 something year old guy dating a woman in her mid-20s and in grad school? Totally normal from my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 05:50 PM
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I work in healthcare. Here is my experience: Most young, attractive male doctors are already married. The ones that aren't married, yes, date hot younger women. The ones that are ugly are just ugly and don't date hot women period. My experiences are from the military and working in NYC, LA, and AZ.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:42 PM
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This is called female solipsism. Just because you aren't experiencing does not mean that other women aren't. I'm not saying they are. I'm just saying that just because you aren't doesn't mean that others aren't experiencing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:20 PM
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I've been to Oklahoma City and many of the other cities across the US (and have lived in a few of them as well). OKC is definitely closer to the middle of nowhere than a massively populated city like NYC or LA.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:19 PM
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Interesting that you expect people to understand your experiences, but you cannot admit that others are experiencing something different than what you are experiencing. Sounds like some serious projection there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:18 PM
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Mostly Red. 30+ (don't remember exact amount). No clue. Most of that 30+ I'm 31.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:13 PM
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Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 10:12 PM
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I strongly believe that men are not routinely eye fucking you, based on your photo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 07:44 PM
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That's great that they rank it in this manner, but, as RP often says, watch what women do, not what they say. My job requires significant proven intelligence and I work with many women. If women valued intelligence THAT much (they may like it, but it's pretty far down the list from what I've seen), I would be swimming in pussy right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 01:38 AM
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I've never met women that value honesty, stability, integrity, or intelligence. Maybe honest in the sense that the guy must honestly have looks or status (i.e. Not lying about this). I don't think modern women care about stability. As an intelligent guy, I can promise you that they don't give a shit about intelligence unless you use it to obtain status. You sound very naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 12:35 AM
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Uh are you even keeping track here? He is average man in his 40's claiming he is having sex with hot girls in their early 20's. Who said that he's average? Did he? Because I didn't see that. Also, what's your definition of "average"? I got a question for you. If an average body + height guy said to you he was being a super nice guy to women, buying them TONS of gifts, calling them up regularly, asking how do they feel, being an emotional pillow for them to talk about their daily Problems, yet th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:58 AM
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That's reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:50 AM
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Yeah, you really only need height in the US to have success. Outside of the US, other factors matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 07:42 AM
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Interesting. I never considered this country. May need to look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 04:34 AM
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I'm in the process of doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 02:44 AM
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Why not just go abroad where I could land an American 7 without really changing myself at all? If I do want to "improve", then I could land an 8-9.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 02:08 AM
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Not scientifically accurate at all, at least according to science. See my posts with links to actual peer reviewed studies and medical databases for further information.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 02:07 AM
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Why Hungary?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 02:05 AM
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Definitely can't say that this was my experience. I dated several women in my 20s, many of whom were quality and many of whom were not. In all likelihood, had I settled down with any of them, I'd be divorced now. One of the biggest factors that you're missing here is that men of means are not limited to the western world. It's relatively easy to find a quality 25 year old woman in Asia that would marry a 35 year old American. The key is to make this all possible with money to travel and move abr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 01:54 AM
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This. When I was pulling women back in college and during my time in clubs, I did not really like myself that much. Now, I like myself WAY more and my success with women has dropped significantly. I'm not willing to compromise my values just for pussy. This is why I'm looking at leaving the country. I'm more likely to find a woman that also likes the version of me that I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 02:41 AM
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Average men just want monogamy with a loyal woman. Chads want polygamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/18 12:30 AM
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It's a very small lie that has no real bearing on anything. Just make something up and say it so many times that you believe it to be real. Then you're good to go
/r/askTRP15/04/18 10:42 PM
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Or you could just lie and say you were in relationships in the past. How would they know?
/r/askTRP15/04/18 10:11 PM
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And how has lifting helped your success with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:55 PM
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How tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:48 PM
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She's way off. https://www.uptodate.com/contents/overview-of-infertility?search=fertility&source=search_result&selectedTitle=2~150&usage_type=default&display_rank=2 Up to Date is the primary tool used by health care providers in the US. The frequency of primary infertility in married women by age groups was: women 15 to 34 years (7.3 to 9.1 percent), 35 to 39 years (25 percent), 40 to 44 years (30 percent).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:42 PM
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Don't look at Wikipedia. Why would you even think that that is a good source?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:42 PM
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https://www.uptodate.com/contents/overview-of-infertility?search=fertility&source=search_result&selectedTitle=2~150&usage_type=default&display_rank=2 Up to Date is the primary tool used by health care providers in the US. The frequency of primary infertility in married women by age groups was: women 15 to 34 years (7.3 to 9.1 percent), 35 to 39 years (25 percent), 40 to 44 years (30 percent).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:41 PM
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No, not working out doesn't cause me to get fat. Making it to the gym multiple times per week is a ton of work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:31 PM
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They should stop being so fucking picky then. Jeez today's women are so hard to please.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:29 PM
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There's a ton of stuff on the laundry list: looks, height, personality (and every personality trait conceivable), job, social status, income, dick size, personal habits (which comprises of a million things). Just google the typical female laundry list. It's all there and usually contains about 100 things. Women's bullshit: their entitlement and how their perceived value is incredibly out of whack; how they treat their men and try to be the boss of everything, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:28 PM
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Come on. You said he's handsome. You really don't think that's the real reason these women are sleeping with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:26 PM
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Working out is definitely work. I hate it personally. I also don't like to do things that most other people consider fun. I do have my shit together though. But that's definitely all work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:25 PM
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I complain about women all the time. I've approached hundreds to thousands in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:21 PM
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Agreed. Short guys and Asian guys are capped on their SMV in the US. With a ton of work, they could probably reach 6, maybe 7 at best. Not worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:20 PM
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Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:16 PM
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Okay I guess it is then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 09:14 PM
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I think it's probably more about him being good looking and (I'd imagine) tall. Fits with RP theory: alpha fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:49 PM
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No the problem is that they are attracted to things that men can't change, while men are more malleable in their attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 08:16 PM
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I feel like many people don't have a good understanding as to exactly why Asia is a good place to date for western men. Hint: it's not because the women are any better. Rather, it's because the bar for hypergamy is much lower. As a white western man, I have implied status in many of these countries. Also, as another poster said, the competition is low. Personally, I recommend that all low to medium SMV guys get out of the US (or any other western country) if they can swing it. Of course, don't g…
/r/askTRP15/04/18 02:39 PM
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Yikes. Your sister is a whore. My condolences. FWIW, my cousin is 21 and has only been in 1 long-term relationship for the past 2 years. She reports losing her virginity to this guy at age 19. Even if she's low-balling, she probably hasn't had sex with more than 3-4 guys. So I don't think all girls that age are complete skanks.
/r/askTRP15/04/18 08:26 AM
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You're missing the reproductive piece of dating. At 35, women are considered to be advanced maternal age. Obviously, this doesn't matter if the guy doesn't want kids, but most high value men that I know want kids. If they don't want kids or already have kids, then sure, they'll date whoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 06:12 AM
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I would extend that to just about everything. Since starting my business, I've really realized how just about everything is designed to be deceptive and to basically distract people from what is really going on. This is off-topic so I'll just leave it at that, but my point is that it isn't just relationships that people (and messages in our society) are almost completely lying about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 05:38 AM
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I'm Italian from New York City. The woman of my family are extremely honest, pretty much to a fault. I'm a straight shooter and pretty much don't have a filter (which I learned from my family). So, when I got into the real world, I was very surprised at how dishonest and "polite" people are. I find it to be bordering on disrespectful. This was my true red pill. I was shocked at how women (and feminine men) lie about just about everything (both to me and to themselves). It definitely knocks them …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 05:24 AM
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Exactly, but I don't think people (especially women) do this to protect the feelings of others. I think they do it for 3 reasons: to avoid confrontation to avoid having to acknowledge unpleasant things about themselves lack of self-awareness (they may actually believe what they say)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 04:46 AM
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I don't understand this. Please explain? Money itself does not matter to women. Women are attracted to men at the top of social hierarchies. The reason why so many people think women are attracted to money is because men with money tend to have high social status, but not always. If a man DOES use his money to attain status or do status-oriented things, women will become attracted to that. I, personally, believe that the ONLY thing women are attracted to is status and all attraction triggers (lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 04:18 AM
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Exactly. I'm not sure how people don't acknowledge this, despite typically doing the same thing themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 04:13 AM
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Jesus. Terrible posts and terrible reasoning. Some of the worst I've seen. You're really missing the mark here. Status is absolutely objective. A man can be high status in a small circle or high status in a big circle. Money does not equal status. It's the application of money that leads to status. Dan Brown and Michael Bay are both famous and, thus, have significant status. The quality of their work is irrelevant. It's the fame that leads to status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:56 AM
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What does any of this have to do with attraction? Men are attracted to looks. Women are attracted to looks and status.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:53 AM
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Obviously, they don't look alike, but, as I said, status in a man is an objectively attractive trait for women. Key word being objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:29 AM
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I don't agree with this. Women CAN get attention whenever they want it from just about anybody (except maybe their crush....which likely is at least partially the cause of her crush to begin with). Men, for the most part, can't just have sex whenever they want. Your post is way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:28 AM
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Okay so if attraction isn't objective, then why are celebrities seen as attractive? Because of their looks and status. If attraction wasn't objective, then the homeless guy with missing teeth would get the same amount of interest as George Clooney.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:16 AM
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What do they have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:14 AM
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Google it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:08 AM
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Biggest problem with women is that they have a ridiculous laundry list of requirements and are most attracted to things that are unchangeable in men. Biggest problem with men is that they are pussies and put up with women's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:07 AM
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I don't know how to respond to that, because it's so obviously wrong. How do you objectively judge attractiveness? With software? A tape measure? That is one way since women are so mesmerized by height. Also, facial symmetry and status. These are very objective. Women, more than men, are attracted to the same things. OP's question essentially asks "how does the human race survive?". People keep reproducing, despite the fact that the average person is supposedly "unattractive". Clearly there are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/18 03:03 AM
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Eh I haven't met a woman that doesn't "prefer" tall and classically good looking. From what I've seen, women's attraction to men is more based on objective traits than men's attraction to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:48 PM
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Except physical attractiveness is not subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:37 PM
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Yeah it's pretty crazy that some guys are saying this is impossible. When I was a broke college student, it was not super abnormal for me to spend a night in a bar and end up getting multiple makeouts and sex from a girl that I consider hot. In addition to being broke (at the time), I didn't lift at the time and I'm short.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 07:34 PM
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Are you joking? Many are claiming they have "plates" whom they call over for casual sex at leisure. Well, I've been in situations where I was sleeping with 2 girls at a time. I've had friends that were sleeping with more than that (one in particular had 2 girlfriends at the same time that were both hot). So I've seen this kind of thing in real life. But it can't reasonably happen, and that's part of the point here. It can though. You've just never experienced or observed it apparently. Your not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/18 05:21 AM
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Okay fair. I was responding to your point, which is, unfortunately, the typical mindset of women in my generation. Many act as if they are customer and we need to show them that we are worthy, while offering little to nothing in return themselves. Basically, women don't understand the concept of value exchange.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:31 PM
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So you, simultaneously, had completely casual sex with multiple hot (8/10 or 9/10) women? Like your own harem? No. I don't see many guys at TRP claiming this either. Unfortunately buddy the world doesn't work like that. You don't get the right for people to believe because you merely state something. Okay? I'm merely stating that you don't KNOW that what they say is untrue. There are no well known 40 year olds who are NOT rich, athletes, or on some level celebrities that are banging multiple hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:29 PM
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Relax with the solipsism. Was I talking about you specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:26 PM
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Off topic but this attitude is exactly why so many modern western women are so unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 10:16 PM
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How can you possibly know if what they are saying is true or not? I do know guys in real life that do what they claim. Hell, I used to back in college (not anymore). I think you are looking for reasons to discredit them. The fact is there is no possible way to know for sure if they are as successful as they claim unless you actually know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 06:50 PM
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I'm a younger guy but I largely agree with you. I find tattoos to be trashy. Luckily, a good portion of the world outside of the US feels the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 06:43 PM
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Okay so two guys' anecdotal experience in one situation overrides a ton of data and the experiences of many other men. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/18 03:42 AM
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Okay so one guy's anecdotal experience in one situation overrides a ton of data and the experiences of many other men. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 06:12 PM
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Nope. As a man, you can't be short. Being short is worse than being fat, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 10:38 AM
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I was on Zoloft when I was in the military. It was awesome and definitely got me through. Pretty easy to taper off of too. It had the bonus of completely killing my sex drive and allowed me to focus on other things besides chasing tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:45 AM
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No way. I've been to male and female therapists. Most suck, but females are terrible. They don't understand male problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 01:29 AM
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Go into entrepreneurship. This is male dominated because women for the most part lack the ability to do this. Nothing anyone could say about it either. Hanging out with my entrepreneurial buddies is guy time. No women allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 10:53 PM
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Antidepressants definitely work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/18 10:41 PM
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I know several men that dated and married women 10+ years younger than them. In most instances, they were high status men in their own realm (doctors, military leaders). In one interesting case, the female is a knockout who was in medical school at the time. The male was a cop that cold approached her at the gym. She's now a highly respected doctor and he's retired. They just had their first child and are very happy. Off the top of my head, I know 4 married couples with significant age differenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 08:27 AM
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Truth is truth. And that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 06:50 AM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I didn't say that the first reason is a good thing. The elites don't want to promote competition because they could lose what they have. They don't want competition (and for good reason...neither do I). As for the other part of your argument, you're thinking in really general terms. I don't care about dual income economies or anything like that. I care about making money for my own products, many of which have excellent margins. I prefer creating product…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:41 AM
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I don't need to provide evidence. This is reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:35 AM
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Truth is truth. And that's all there is to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:34 AM
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No no no. You're wrong on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:33 AM
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False.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 03:32 AM
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Women do tend to make things up to garner sympathy and give themselves victim status. Men are less likely to do that. So it is more likely that you're making up your stories than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 01:00 AM
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What do you mean? No one is claiming to be a victim. I am just stating facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:59 AM
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Divorce rape Alimony Women get slap on the wrist for crimes that men receive long prison sentences for. Women can sexually harass men, but not the other way around. Women can make career-destroying allegations and are taken at their word without any investigation. Women are granted custody of children almost all the time. The media and politicians cater to women. Of course, there are reasons for this of which I'm aware (and benefit from myself).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:58 AM
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Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:53 AM
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Yes. Truth is truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/18 12:53 AM
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With the ease that women in the US can attract high quality men and the abundance of these men, yes, you should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:12 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:11 PM
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It's not rape. It's forced marriage. Men are treated like second class citizens in the US. So it's not THAT different.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 08:40 AM
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There is no cognitive dissonance when people are making this stuff up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 08:39 AM
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Yes. As the woman who carries the child, she needs to be held responsible for her actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 08:38 AM
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They're treated like men are treated in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:55 AM
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Yes, they are too dramatic and paranoid. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:50 AM
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Come on. So now you're actually admitting to filing a false rape claim? This sub is too much sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:43 AM
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No. That's unlikely. But either way, I'm a guy and not gay so none of this would happen anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:40 AM
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I, personally, believe that women came to power for 2 reasons: So that men in the highest power can maintain their power. Typically, women are not capable of being successful leaders nor are they capable of innovation. Simply put, giving women dominance over men eliminates the vast majority of male competition from reaching the top. Women are the primary consumers in our culture. Giving them power and more money allows companies to make a ton of money. Women spend their own money and the money o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:22 AM
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Yes, because, for the most part, the red pill is true. I've experienced and observed it. I've also observed multiple false rape allegations and claims of stalking by women that just have a guy that likes them, but hasn't actually done any stalking. I assume that these are the kinds of women that respond to that survey: the perpetual self-made victims. And don't worry about me. My ass is secure from raping....now and forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:17 AM
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It's not against the law, but we will be prosecuted in the court of public opinion. Some feminist somewhere will lose her shit and come after us. It's best to fight against feminism secretly. Why do you think I voted for Trump? To this day, no one in my personal life knows that I voted for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:14 AM
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Yeah, I can't argue about these things in public. Someone will film me, put it on youtube, and then my professional career and my business will be destroyed. If I post anonymously on reddit, then no one knows I exist and my life can go on as planned.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:12 AM
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That explains a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 07:09 AM
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I would consider myself fortunate to have a loving husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:59 AM
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It's based on a self-reported survey. Who knows if these responses are actually true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:31 AM
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Until society has to foot the bill for their children. I have a cousin that did this. Total white trash. She had her first kid at age 16 by unknown black guy, then got involved with a drug addict and had 3 more kids. The state paid for her college and now their footing the bill for her gazillion kids. Multiply this by the tons and tons of single mothers in this country doing the same thing. The US is paying for these sluts to not own their shit and take responsibility for their actions. And that…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:10 AM
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I can't speak for everyone, but when I was looking for hookups, yes, this was awesome. It's an absolute free-for-all. As long as you can make it onto the SMV, you can get your dick wet. But now that I'm interested in marriage and having a family, full on crisis mode. These women are not marriage material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:06 AM
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Well, I'm not interested in marrying children, but the ability to not divorce sounds pretty intriguing. Thanks! I'll look into this further.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:03 AM
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In particular, I’ve wanted to be able to walk around alone, in cities, on mountains, unmolested. You can’t wander lonely as a cloud when you’re always checking to see whether you’re being followed, or bracing yourself in case the person passing grabs you. I’ve been insulted, threatened, spat on, attacked, groped, harassed, followed; women I know have been stalked so ferociously they had to go into hiding, sometimes for years; other women I know have been kidnapped, raped, tortured, stabbed, beat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:02 AM
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Interesting. Do these countries not allow divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:55 AM
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Teen bride. I could just divorce-rape the guy and be set for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:52 AM
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Yeah I figured. You're a kid so you don't know shit. You'll figure that out when you get older, young'n.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:50 AM
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Of course it is. Except when rolling. I can't get it up and just want to dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 05:48 AM
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Wealth inequality is a great thing. The key is to be at the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 09:35 AM
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Do you have any sources? Also, just logically, it doesn't make sense that small children would actually do better when away from their parents and in the care of strangers in their formative years.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 10:05 AM
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Based on my minimal research, kids in daycare are more likely to be aggressive, more likely to experience stress, and less likely to be able to bond with parents. They do, however, appear to have increased vocabulary, which can also be accomplished if the parents aren't retards. I'm doing research and I'm not seeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 08:03 AM
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You also apparently seem to think that poor people are beneath you. Yes, I do not think highly of poor people in western countries, where, frankly, it is fairly easy to lift one's self out of poverty by simply making good decisions. You seem to think of yourself as rich. I have a 6 figure day job and I'm doing 7 figures in my business right now with a ton of room for growth. Not quite a millionaire yet, but I will be within the next few years. What have you, personally, produced? How have you, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:59 AM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 07:03 AM
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Daycare There are many things in life that can and should be outsourced. Raising your kids is not one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:58 AM
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Do you know many rich people personally? I'm betting that you don't. Again, have fun staying poor. Enjoy your perpetual victimhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 06:48 AM
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Rich people produce a lot of value. That's how they become rich and stay rich. Produce that level of value and you will be that rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 03:28 AM
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If you believe that 1% controls 90% of the world's resources, why don't you figure out a way to become part of the 1% instead of bitching about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/18 03:27 AM
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That's true. The last thing I want to do is look bad in front of people on Reddit. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 04:46 PM
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He insulted my people first. So I'm not sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:04 PM
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Touché.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:48 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:47 AM
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Okay fair enough. I did google that term and you do appear to be correct. Still though, I'm a STEM guy (with an MS) and I read a lot. Not sure what you got your PhD in, but I definitely do not think that class being cultural is well-known enough to not require proof of any kind. Though, after reading these articles, I think my application of the term "cultural" may have been incorrect. In any event, I'll take the loss here.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 05:47 AM
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First, if you are presenting something as a fact, you absolutely need references to back it up (Did you go to college or grad school?). No need for the condescending tone here when you're the one that bears the burden of proof. Second, this article doesn't really say much of anything other than "Poor people have hearts of gold and rich people are assholes". Do you have anything with more evidence behind it? (Hint: If you don't, then you have not proven your argument. Again, the burden of proof i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 04:34 AM
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Okay so a random blog is a better citation than Wikipedia? Do you have any legitimate sources or are you just making this up as you go?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 04:18 AM
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Your "30 years of thinking about and reading about class in America" apparently have been wasted. All sources specifically list income, career, and educational attainment as determining class. Also, class is not set in stone. That starving hipster artist (that was born to rich parents and is now likely a drug addict)? Yeah, he's no longer part of the upper class. That master plumber with the multi million dollar company? Yeah, he started off as a blue collar working class guy. Then, he built up …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:45 AM
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It's not. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:36 AM
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Is this how you respond instead of admitting that you're wrong? Fairly disappointing given the usual quality of your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 03:26 AM
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Sorry Atlas, but this simply isn't true. Class is determined by income and educational attainment. It has nothing to do with values. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_middle_class
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/18 02:16 AM
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This has happened to me in the past. I lost a lot of attraction to her and ended up breaking it off. I did try to stick it out for a few months though because I really liked her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 07:44 PM
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Have you ever actually lived in an Asian country? I have. So I do know what I'm talking about here. American women are way more dangerous and manipulative than most women in Asian countries. And, in many Asian countries (the Philippines, for example), the women are way too stupid to pull off a significant scheme unless the guy is very naive or inexperienced with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 09:36 AM
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There are a few reasons why I like China. It's in competition to be the world superpower. I think it's very possible that they can overtake the US. I figure if I marry a Chinese woman, I could easily switch from US to Chinese citizenship (or she could switch to mine) if need be. Most of my manufacturers are out there and it would be very beneficial for me to be in that same area. My business partner is from there, along with his entire family. If I want, I could just get them to prescreen women …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 08:55 AM
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thefastlaneforum.com Check it out. Read the books. This forum has many legitimate millionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 08:51 AM
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My point was that, for the vast majority of American women, they would attract more men by losing weight. I'm sorry if you find that offensive, but that's the truth. Like I often say, I don't make the rules. I just report them. At least fat women can take solace in not being a short man, which is considered just as unattractive as being a fat woman, but can't be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 03:41 AM
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Well I'm not gonna be super specific here, but my primary job is health care and I can promise you that most fat people are not fat because of health problems. Even weight gain due to thyroid issues is WAY overstated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:58 AM
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Dude fuck the corporate jobs. Entrepreneurship is the way to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:53 AM
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Well then gain more weight. Add more calories to your diet.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:52 AM
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Okay. Then you're good with that. Congrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/18 12:44 AM
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Leaning red, male, single. My purpose is to build up my business and become a multimillionaire. I would like to settle down with a woman (likely overseas...probably China), get married, and have a family. Absolutely. Every day. Nothing. I have no other option than to succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 11:26 PM
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I'm just going based on my own experiences, both dating foreign women in the US and actually living abroad and dating foreign women there. So it has nothing to do with what I've heard. It has everything to do with what I personally experienced. Also, there are plenty of benefits (for me, anyway) to actually living in Asia. I wouldn't move there just for women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 10:55 PM
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Absolutely. I do my best to stick to have solid values and stick to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 10:05 PM
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In the past, adultery was shamed. So I think it's more prevalent because it's way more accepted than it used to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 09:46 PM
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It's a valid statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 07:00 PM
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In my experience, one night stands are just about all on me. I have to make it happen. I've even noticed this with my tall, good-looking friends for the most part. I do agree that the woman does need to put effort into relationships. I have never been married so I can't comment on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 06:20 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 06:14 PM
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True but I would need a girl that agrees with this. As a man with a higher income, if I misjudge even slightly while getting married in the US, I could be in for a world of hurt. This is especially frivolous since I don't see the US coming out on top in the economic war against China (or in the global war against cryptocurrency). But these are different topics altogether. My point is that I have plenty of reasons not to work on the commitment issues of the US, many of which don't involve women a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 06:01 PM
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I'm not sitting in shit. I'm building up my business and then moving overseas to a culture that values commitment over instant gratification.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:45 PM
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What do you mean when you say "you lead your attraction on"?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:18 PM
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No way. It's not my job to fix society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:06 PM
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Yup. I'm all about the practical marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:57 PM
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Agreed. It's unfortunate that pretty much no American in our generation thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:55 PM
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The truth can be tragic sometimes, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:41 PM
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Yeah that's why I originally started that. It's a long story but I ended up getting a different girl accidentally with this who's much better than that girl. So I'm going with that one. This was just an example of what I was talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:40 PM
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Well, that's where game (and game knowledge) comes in. Here's an example: My one-itis recently turned me down. I'm building a business right now and it takes a lot of effort to chase girls around. So I hired a hot girl to basically just pretend to be my girlfriend for a while. This has already caused jealousy with the one-itis AND it has helped easily attract women in club game. I'm basically paying this girl a significant amount to boost my status. So that's what I mean when I say "applying mon…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 09:18 AM
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You just said it right there. SMV does change with all of those things. It either improves or decreases. Women are attracted to status. This can apply to both the macro level (the entire society) or the micro level (niche cultures). Things like height, looks, money, and personality can add or detract in any of these situations. However, in niches, other things matter just as much if not more because they are a sign of status in that particular group. I was mormon for a while (I no longer am). Lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 07:02 AM
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Unfortunately, the SMV is the SMV. There's no way around it. So the advice is applicable to all and one size does fit all. Don't kill the messenger. I don't make the rules. I just report them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 06:36 AM
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She is a woman (and not the rare Atlas Shrugged kind of woman that actually gets it). So I wouldn't expect much in the form of a coherent response.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:20 AM
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You're a woman so you don't really need to know anything. Basically, you just need to sit there and look pretty. Men have to do the actual work. If we don't figure it out, we don't get anything. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:19 AM
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Yeah, this is what I didn't understand when I first started making 6 figures. For years, I thought "Wow, money doesn't help with women at all. That's a myth." Then I realized that it's not the money itself, but the application of that money (increasing your status) that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 05:03 AM
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Lots of hamstering in this thread. I'm not a woman, but it's obvious what men need to be more attractive: status. Status encompasses height, looks, money (and the application of said money), and personality. What can women do to be more attractive? Lose some fucking weight. Don't be a bitch. Easy enough, right? /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/18 03:44 AM
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Yeah man if I was wealthy and looking to find an LTR I'd honestly pretend not be at first to see if the girl actually likes me or not. I'd turn up in a cheap used hatchback and rent a little flat somewhere or something. Yes, women will chase money itself just for the money. But if you can use your money to buy status in a way that legitimately attracts women, this shouldn't be an issue. But either way, there are studies that show that women legitimately are attracted to money. I think the proble…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:51 PM
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I'm pretty sure that status only comes into play when finding LTRs in the main. As women often say on here, all you really need to be a casual sex partner is looks and to be fun. Obviously there are a few exceptions where people get star struck and that gets the job done instead. Looks and fun are indicators of status. A man that is good-looking and fun will be liked by many people and will, thus, increase the status of the woman that he's with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 02:49 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:42 AM
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I don’t know that I would agree with that statement. I see where you’re coming from, but that’s not something I’d be willing to assume. At any rate, the correct research response to that criticism of a paper would be to do a new study with parameters that account for it and can distinguish somehow between the two motivations. For example, you could ask women in one group what height they prefer in men in general, and ask women in another group the same question, but with the context that they’re…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:32 AM
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The key word is “may.” That’s the limitation: you can’t be 100% sure the data reflects their true motivations or just what they want their motivations to be. However, sometimes people’s perception of their motivations is accurate. When I was in school, we were taught that, in general, self-reports should be presumed accurate, unless there’s a compelling reason to suspect a bias in the responses. If that argument can be made, then yes, that’s a fair reason to be skeptical of the data. But even th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/18 01:06 AM
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I agree, but as I said, studying motivations and incentives without relying on self-report data is very difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. In the absence of more reliable data, self-report data is still a valid form of data, so long as you keep the limitations in mind. The thing is people may not even know their own true motivations. They may attribute a particular decision to something more superficial...or they may mis-remember...or they may be trying to justify their actions in particu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 10:25 PM
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I'm not talking about eighties. That's pushing it. Here are a few examples: Two friends that married women 10 years younger than themselves. My boss (mid 40s) routinely dates women in their 30s and 20s. A doctor that I know married a woman 20 years younger than him (a professional woman that was very attractive) Various other guys that I know in their 40s that date women in their 20s and 30s. It is worth noting though that these guys don't specifically go after women younger than them. They're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 09:59 PM
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I'm not sure that a self reported study is better than nothing. If all of these people lack self-awareness (entirely possible), the results can be way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 08:20 PM
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Depends on the guy. I agree with you for the most part, but I've seen many exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:57 PM
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This is very far off for many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 06:55 PM
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It seems like that study that you've cited is based on self-reporting, which is typically not very trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 05:38 PM
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I disagree. From what I've seen in the workplace, women can do whatever they want but men have to be careful. It's a witch hunt for men in today's workplace. And I don't feel like a man telling a woman that she's pretty should be a fireable offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 04:30 PM
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Like I said, maybe secondary gain of some sort. Maybe they're being paid to say these things or something to that degree. We don't know because these are simply allegations that are taken as fact. No investigation, nothing. And, as I've said, there are many women that are not above ruining a man's life for their own personal gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 07:56 AM
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They're trying to get attention and garner sympathy. I suspect that there is significant secondary gain involved. And, of course, people in our country are jealous of rich people and will go to great lengths to ruin them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 07:40 AM
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Fair enough. I live in a big city so it's easier to things out and about, but I lived in a small town at one point and feel your pain. And we're in very different demographics (I'm 31).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 07:14 AM
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Judging by this post and your other posts, it doesn't seem like you have a ton of experience with women. Go out and try different things. Then get back to me and let me know how they go. I've tried reasoning with incels in the past and there's really no getting through to you guys. Good luck in the future and take care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 05:46 AM
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Personally, I wouldn't marry a girl that's slept around a lot (you don't really how bad it is, but it sounds bad). It reduces the likelihood that she'll be able to pair bond. In this day and age, that means you have a better than average chance of divorce. If you have a lot of assets now or are on a trajectory to have a lot of assets, it's a good idea to end it. Of course, I don't know you or her. So that's the best advice I could give.
/r/askTRP02/04/18 04:57 AM
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Okay well let me tell that to my past self before I got laid multiple times when a girl didn't seem interested, but became interested after I escalated correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 04:19 AM
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They may be interested in TRP in an academic way or they just want to make improvements. I found TRP a few years ago when I was trying to get a greater perspective on PUA techniques that I had been using for several years. It does provide great context. I do agree that it seems to have been taken over by guys in the anger phase though. I do think the anger phase typically IS the introduction to RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 03:41 AM
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Frame control working on everyone is true. Yup. This has helped me in both social and professional situations. Pre-selection however relies on getting other women attracted to you or building a large social group. Not necessarily. Like many things in life, there are workarounds. For example, I used to go out alone at the beginning of the night and chat up random groups in bars. I would convince them I was with another group that I chatted with previously. Basically, everyone thought I was with s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/18 03:09 AM
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Yeah, I mean you really do need looks when you're online. Pretty much nothing else matters when using that method. With that said, the older ways of meeting people can still work. However, PUA doesn't put things into context and, for the most part, just gives you techniques. But TRP is much more than LMR and dread. Frame control can really work anywhere you deal with people. Other things like pre-selection are amazing and work wonders (this was touched upon with PUA, but was not made to be a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:52 PM
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Good article and it does bring me back (I was a member of the alt seduction forum and read all of Ross Jeffries and tried his stupid NLP crap). I would definitely say that I'm more red than blue. I think pickup, in many cases, was wrong and that TRP, in many cases, is right. However, most TRP guys are just too emotional about things and are just venting in many cases. I've been there so I get it. TRP, in my opinion, IS something similar to pickup. It does teach men how to get better with women, …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 11:16 PM
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Because they want hotter girls than what they're getting now. That's why I got into PUA when I was 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 10:50 PM
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It's not even necessarily "being bad". It's simply to get a better understanding of what's actually happening and how to improve your situation for the better. I think people have a misunderstanding that RP guys are all failures and neckbeards, whereas I don't think that's really the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 10:36 PM
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That's actually extremely likely that this is the cause of an incel/black piller. Very astute analysis.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 10:30 PM
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Agreed. This is why I'm building my wealth and lifting now. From what I've seen, there is no real hard age limit for a guy to be AB. I know single ABs in their 40s that still attract many women in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:52 PM
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Good points. And, as you said, an alpha can have money added to the mix to become AB. But a beta can also add alpha (game, lifting, status) to also become AB.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:33 PM
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Height is an indicator of status. So of course, this is an attractive feature to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:10 PM
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I agree with you that women want status above all else. I also agree that looks and height are a part of status. So women are attracted to these things because they suggest higher status. I think women know what they want, but they don't necessarily know why they want it (from an evolutionary and sociological standpoint). But, really, most people aren't smart enough to search for these answers and, frankly, they don't need to in order to accomplish their goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:03 PM
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From what I've seen, women that are low SES tend to branch swing, but only when they are unhappy in their relationships. Women that are high SES just cheat, but, again, only when they are unhappy in their relationships. I do think that hypergamy is the primary driving force behind female attraction, but I don't think that branch swinging is as common as many make it seem. And usually when there is branch swinging, there's usually more to it than "He has better genetics and more money so I'm goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 08:52 PM
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Yes. This is the primary reason for lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 06:47 PM
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Yeah, that's a good point. I'll keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 09:11 AM
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What do you mean? I never said what my major was.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 07:22 AM
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But then there's also personality/chemistry/classiness/intelligence. I went to a heavy science school. Many of the girls that I dated in college are now doctors or something similar. What is her poise/grace/class like? They weren't trashy if that's what you're asking. Does she play an instrument? Dance? Read awesome books? They read science books because that's what we majored in. I don't remember if they danced or played instruments. I don't think so. Did she go to Harvard? Well, I didn't go to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 06:32 AM
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I just noticed your citations, which are pitiful at best. I would expect better from a moderator.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:51 AM
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What's your definition of a "top tier woman"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:41 AM
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Can you also give some stories? Me: I did very well with women in college. I'm short with a cute face (so I'm told), but I didn't lift at the time. I did not do well with women at all until I read PUA and started promoting/bar tending. Then I became the go to party guy. I was a lot of fun and knew everybody on campus. This took a lot of effort. I started getting a ton of girls way out of my league during this time. Another one of my friends during this time attracted women constantly. He was int…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/18 05:12 AM
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Fair enough. I don't like women with domineering personalities. So that might be why. I've literally gone from super interested in a girl to not interested at all when I discover that her personality is more assertive (aka masculine) than I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 11:30 PM
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I agree. I don't think it has to do with JUST looks. Men build up social status and wealth as they get older, which is very important to women, and not really all that important to men. I agree with you on the hair thing though. All of the older guys that I know that date younger still have a full head of hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 08:17 PM
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Yeah, I didn't mean to make it seem like only women lie and do fucked up things like that. That's pretty messed up (and stupid that that guy allowed a woman that he isn't married to access to his credit card to begin with).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 08:14 PM
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Things have changed since the 80s. I was in the military in the 2010s. I didn't determine that the accusations were false. The court martial juries did. In one case, where both the accused and the accuser were in my unit, the accuser was proven to have lied (she cheated on her husband and tried to cover it up) and was still given base of preference despite this. Another case involved junior officers that I knew and sometimes associated with. Basically, the guy was beta and the girl was known to …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 08:12 PM
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In terms of general "lying", I think a lot of it has to do with women's communication style. Since they tend to be not be overt like men and rely more on sub-communication, what they is say not typically what they mean. This is why many men advise other men to watch what a woman does, not what she says. In terms of rape, my personal experience as a former military officer in a position to deal with these kinds of things directly has shown me that many many sexual assault allegations are indeed f…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:33 PM
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Depends on the situation. I find that I become less attracted to women if they pay for a lot of things for me. I'm not sure why that is (perhaps it has to do with masculinity vs. femininity). I would, however, be interested in settling down with a girl whose father has political connections or is rich, but it's a turn-off when the girl herself is rich or has political connections. *This is not conscious for me and I literally just realized this as I was typing this response to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:24 PM
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I don't know exactly why, but for some reason many guys here think that bad boys are always assholes. When I think of a "bad boy", I think of a criminal that has been arrested multiple times for serious things, not a jokester or a jock asshole. I don't think that women like these kinds of guys inherently unless they themselves are damaged. If a woman hooks up with a tattooed guy the TRP conclusion is that women are attracted to DT alphas or that women hate nice guys. From what I've seen, the amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 06:07 PM
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That makes sense. It doesn't sound as impressive if you say that it took a lot of work and long hours (unless you're talking to another guy who's also trying to get there). I don't know many people that would talk about their long grind though. Most people don't care and don't want to hear about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 05:56 PM
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Guy who's natural inclinations made him a very high status guy, top 'o the list. Guy who worked real hard, and was very clever, and who built up his strenghts/hid his weaknesses, and became a high status guy... slightly less attractive then first, but still OK. Not sure where you're going with this. In my case, for example, I built up a successful career and business and have a ton of money to throw around. This all was very natural for me (school was extremely easy and I've been building busine…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 12:18 PM
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I don't know man. When I was in college, I bartended and promoted (and also engaged in PUA). Any guy that I've ever known that had those kinds of responses from women put a TON of effort into their social lives and physiques. They make it look effortless, but it was anything but. Now that I'm older and spend most of my time with professionals and entrepreneurs, I still know guys like this. But most of them grinded out extremely successful careers and have a ton of money, but also managed to keep…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:50 AM
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It's hard to say. I wonder if a lot of these rich ugly women simply can't get a good-looking wealthy guy. So they go for good-looking poor guys. I have male friends that are good-looking and wealthy (sometimes even in their 20s). They never date down in terms of looks. I don't know any female millionaires personally so I can't comment on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 07:44 AM
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Like it or not, this guy now has a certain degree of social status and is now (in)famous. With women, it always goes back to status.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 04:57 AM
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Agreed. The amount of women that are writing to this guy are statistically insignificant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 04:56 AM
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The problem is that there are several instances that are prominent in the media where women blatantly lie (and are proven to have lied) about various rapes and sexual assaults. I've seen this in person when I was in the military as well. I was an officer and had troops under me. I also participated in court martials. There were 3 "sexual assault" cases on my base where the woman was proven to have lied and put the guy through hell. Ultimately, the women were actually rewarded for their behavior.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 04:54 AM
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Well put!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 02:56 AM
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A lack of escalation can cause a lack of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 02:56 AM
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I think "nice" is subjective. For example, I wouldn't consider a person to be not nice because they are judgmental. However, many people would disagree with me. Also, a person can be nice to some people and not nice to others. It's fluid. For example, I'm very nice to my family. But I'm not very nice to my business competitors.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/18 02:55 AM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:21 PM
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Unfortunately, if you're trying to avoid friendships with shitty people, you won't have many people to be friends with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/18 09:17 PM
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I show weakness in front of men that I have good rapport with and that I consider my inner circle. I still can't really figure out the difference between an alpha or a beta. I plan on making a post on this at some point. There doesn't seem to be a true definition for this distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:04 PM
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Yeah fair enough. I am pretty cheap and not very generous lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:02 PM
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I think most likely yes. Men tend to not really talk about their feelings much and don't really have support systems in place. Personally, I'm lucky. I'm very close to my mother and I tell her everything. Also, my business partners are my best friends (and an official partnership is kind of like a marriage). So when I get down about a girl or something, I know I could always call them. They know they can always call me too. But I don't think most men have these kinds of relationships with people…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:34 AM
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This is actually interesting. Our discussion and my looking for studies (I also use Google Scholar) resulted in me not really finding any results beyond surveys (which can be misleading). I do remember reading that, if selected randomly, women should be married to shorter men in about 8% of marriages, whereas they are only shorter in 4% of marriages. So that would indicate a significant bias. But that doesn't prove that it's the most important factor. It may also be a result of men lying about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:16 AM
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Status is the most important thing overall. I don't deny that. Having a tall husband/boyfriend is a huge indicator of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:10 AM
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To be attractive as a man is much harder to be attractive as a woman. Did you not see that famous Okcupid study that showed that women find 80% of men unattractive? That's not even accounting for things that women like that are unchangeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:07 AM
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No. The biggest issue is height, which can't be changed. And, yes, that is worse for guys from a practical standpoint. I'm not saying it isn't natural or biological or whatever. I'm just saying that it's easy to be attractive as a woman. It's difficult for a man to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/18 04:05 AM
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I appreciate the effort. However, "taller than them" still reflects a height requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 11:21 PM
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Fair enough with the status. I disagree about the other physical traits. Do you have sources for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:53 PM
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Eh, the most important aspect of attraction for women, height, cannot be changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:26 PM
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I have examples, but they are anecdotal. I doubt that there would ever be studies done on this because it would be hard to quantify and would depict women in a bad light....and we can't have that now can we?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:15 PM
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Exactly. For the most part, men either are or they aren't and it's more difficult for us to change our smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 09:06 PM
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I didn't make any claim either way. I'm simply saying that the superficial features that women are attracted to cannot be changed, whereas the superficial features that men are attracted to can be changed. I made no moral assignments either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:38 PM
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Who's turning it into a moral competition? I'm just stating a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 06:10 PM
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Nah women are worse. The things that women are shallow with typically can't be changed. Men just want a skinny woman who is nice and loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:36 PM
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Well yeah, but they're not going to get the types of girls that would inspire one to be a good lover.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:18 PM
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Well, I mean he might get there after she's done with the carousel in her 30s, but why would any guy strive for that? And why would any guy actually willingly please their partner in that situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 04:34 PM
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Women’s desire is not absolute. It’s relative to the other males available. We’re ranked against our peers not by an objective yardstick. Exactly. Off-topic, but this is exactly why the best option for a beta/omega is to marry women from outside the west. Rich beta Koreans are already doing this. Why American men are so against this is beyond me (probably due to feminist brainwashing).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 04:30 PM
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AFBB has no bearing on how women get off. It's not even part of that discussion. Also, who cares how good the beta is in bed if he never gets to that point?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 04:25 PM
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This seems overly complicated. Good looking men and men with high social value can spin plates at will at any age. That's really it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 03:53 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty much how I started my path to a very successful business. I figured you read it because of your comment "Fuck you money". That's the only place where I've ever heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 07:43 AM
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Oh shit lol. Maybe it was. Not sure how I misinterpreted that. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 07:35 AM
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Money should be used to add to status. I make very good money, but it didn't help me until I figured that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:46 AM
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He's doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:42 AM
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True. I was mostly joking. But, to be fair, we don't know what was actually going on in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/18 05:35 AM
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You seriously don't think dating coworkers is risky? Flirting I agree is fine. Dating can be a problem. Sleeping with married coworkers is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 11:28 PM
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Lol nah man. Why would I risk my job over a girl? Has nothing to do with rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:41 PM
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Tell that to Harvey Weinstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 10:39 PM
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I've had a 6 figure job for the past 5 or so years. I have 0 debt of any kind and I'm in the process of building up a business. I come from a middle class family and I am greatly outdoing my parents already.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:26 PM
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I'm looking at southern China for a few reasons. 1) My business partner's family is from China. His grandmother is well known in her village and has offered to set us all up with attractive, vetted women. 2) I have tons of other contacts in China. 3) China is competing with the US to be the dominant superpower. If I marry a Chinese woman and have children in China, they will have both American and Chinese citizenship (as well as EU citizenship since I'm already a dual citizen). **3b) My money wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 05:19 PM
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Divorce rape, feminism, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 03:57 PM
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That's quite a life history there. Sounds like you were following the PUA advice to basically "overdose" on pussy so you could see all women as replaceable/not unique. Obviously it works for some guys but doesn't lead to a good past for people like you (or like me, for that matter). Yeah, pretty much. Like I said though, I can't say that I regret it. I'd almost certainly be beta bux right now had I not had those experiences. I'm glad you are working on your business now... much better for you in…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 01:27 AM
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Haha that's funny
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/18 12:41 AM
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Interesting to know. Well, it's a "first world country". So not too surprising I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 11:24 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 11:00 PM
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here. How does this relate to my statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:55 PM
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Nope. There are many countries outside of the US that don't force child support. As far as I could tell, the US is only country that enforces debtor's prison for men that don't pay child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:55 PM
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That's weird. Maybe it was from another commenter then... I could have sworn on my life that in one of your previous comments you said you wanted her to be a virgin. Sorry. Wasn't me. I don't care about (or even want that really). So I wouldn't have written it. It may have been "true", but the 2 typical ones that are often quoted on manosphere sites are from pro-marriage, Christian researchers who are obviously extremely invested in making sure their flocks stay together. Also, they only talk ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:53 PM
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Best way to avoid child support: don't have children in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:15 PM
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No definitely not. My n count is high. Again, I did not say that women with a high n count is in and of itself a dealbreaker. However, I no longer sleep around and I don't trust women in our current society to not be sleeping around (while telling me that they aren't). Also, I remember reading studies that showed that women with high n counts had more difficulty pair bonding (as opposed to men, which did not have any effect). From an RP standpoint, this makes sense given our biological programmi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:10 PM
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I don't doubt that, man, but I have to take advantages where I can get them. I have 0 advantages in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:48 PM
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Well, you could definitely end up with less than you had before getting marriage. Within my business circle, we classify risk in 2 ways: Good risk - Limited downside, unlimited upside. Bad risk - Unlimited downside, limited upside. Marriage in the US is definitely an example of a bad risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:46 PM
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Why would anybody ever get married just for sex? LOL I don't think that ever happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:44 PM
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Because there are better options out there in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:40 PM
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No. By sleeping around, I mean well into the double digits and having FWB while going on dates. I would be okay with 5 consecutive boyfriends from age 17-30. Either way, n count in and of itself does not bother me particularly. I'm not looking for a virgin lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:36 PM
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I'm from the US. I've spent A LOT of time in China and, if height matters, I haven't seen it. At worst, it's about a million times better than it is in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:33 PM
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Honestly, I try to simply avoid any long-term commitment while in the US. I'm currently building up my business and plan to leave the country in search of something serious over the next few years. Frankly, while I don't necessarily believe in AWALT, I think women that are not constantly sleeping around are so rare that it's not even worth trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 10:33 AM
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TRP is a great way to combat laziness. Once I realized many TRP truths, I got to work on a business (because I realized that there was no hope for guys like me in the US) that is on track to make 7 figures in its first year. I can honestly say that TRP completely changed my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:59 AM
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Dude, you're in for a rude awakening in the medical field. I've been there. Wouldn't recommend it. Just a fair warning that has nothing to do with this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:04 AM
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The difference is, as a female, all you had to do was lose weight and basically be a decent person for guys to be interested. Women rule men out on genetic factors that are unchanged. And then women wonder why there are so many misogynists out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 07:00 AM
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LOL wealth matters way more in Asian country. I don't think wealth matters as much as looks and status in the US (that's what I mean by "SMV"). This is why I'm looking into Asia. I'm a white guy with a pretty high (and exponentially growing) net worth. In the US, I would likely be able to get BB, but women are actually attracted to this stuff in Asia (I know because I do business there, have a lot of contacts there, and dated there). And, then, in the US, I could lose it all if I marry the wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 05:30 AM
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I think it's based on our experiences. I used to be okay with waiting...until I realized that the women are probably fucking other guys if they're not fucking me. From what I've seen, women will have sex with a top male very easily. They make the betas wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:38 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:36 AM
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True, but how does one know what an individual woman typically behaves if he does not know her well beforehand. In my opinion, it's safe to assume that a woman in a feminist country has had a lot of sex with many different men....and that she most likely is having sex with someone while going out and refusing me. Of course, not every woman does this, but most do from what I've seen. I wouldn't necessarily jump to this conclusion in a non-feminist country (though this would depend on other factor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/18 04:34 AM
1

Agreed. There is no reason for any kind of commitment unless you plan on having kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:35 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:34 PM
5

And I'm sure there are women like you in the US, but I don't think you are in the majority (or even a significant minority).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 11:08 PM
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I don't know. I'm cool with just my friends and family. However, once I decide to have children, then, yes, I do believe it'll make sense to get into a relationship and a marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:59 PM
1

I personally believe that height is more cultural than biological. As a short man (5'6) that often does business in China, there is marked difference with how women respond to me there than here. In China, I'm able to easily date women much taller than me. Height doesn't seem to matter much at all there. In the US, I've found it to be, by far, one of the most important attributes that a man can have (if not the most important).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 10:37 PM
1

Agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 09:35 PM
1

Agreed. This is why average to below average SMV guys (like myself) struggle. If all of the high SMV guys were assholes, we'd probably have an easier time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 06:50 AM
1

Sure. Go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 06:47 AM
2

Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/18 03:12 AM
1

No I guess not. More like MWALT (most women are like that).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 07:37 PM
1

I never got married and I agree with AWALT (although I have met some extremely rare western-born exceptions).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 05:47 AM
1

China's way of handling the situation works well.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/18 01:44 AM
3

Man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 06:43 AM
1

I had way more success in my early 20s than my early 30s. No question about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/18 05:51 AM
1

What's the point of having a woman that isn't supportive? That's what we in the business world call a bad return on investment.
/r/TheRedPill18/02/18 08:35 PM
8

I would love for this to happen with me and my daughter. Easy multimillion dollar payday.
/r/MGTOW18/02/18 07:15 PM
1

You make it seem as if women are attracted to substance. They are not. PUAs are successful because women are almost completely attracted to image.
/r/TheRedPill07/02/18 07:42 AM
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I'm a single father. My daughter is an infant right now. Personally, I think a daughter can be a great asset or a massive disaster, depending on how she is raised. My mother and maternal grandmother are/were fantastic people, two of the best people that I've ever known (ultimately, this led me to massive disillusionment with my generation of women, since they fall far below them in every way possible). In any event, what I learned after looking at their lives is that, to have the best possible r…
/r/MGTOW20/01/18 04:28 PM
1

My plan is to just be very honest from the beginning. From what I've read, the biggest problem that kids seem to have is when the parents lie about it. Also, given my career, she won't have a normal life anyway (likely a lot of traveling and moving around early on). It's likely that I will get married someday outside of the US. So it's not out of the realm of possibility that she will have a mother figure at some point.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/18 07:04 AM
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It's going well so far. Being a single parent is not as difficult as people make it seem (though I work from home on my own schedule so I can do whatever). My mother was opposed to it at first, but she's happy now that she has a grandchild. No one else really seems to care. When people ask me, I just say something like "I have older parents. I wasn't meeting anyone. I have money. And I wanted a child now rather than later."
/r/TheRedPill20/01/18 04:52 AM
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I am financially okay, yes. I haven't figured out how to deal with the period discussion yet. I have 10+ years to figure it out though.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/18 04:47 AM
1

None of us have ever had issues with coming back "part black". It is possible, though, that this is because my father is 100% Ashkenazi Jewish (so I'm naturally 50% Jewish). My mother, who is not Jewish, came back with trace Jewish DNA that really doesn't make sense given all of the proof that I have that none of her line was ever Jewish.
/r/TheRedPill20/01/18 04:45 AM
1

Maybe just me but my daughter is about 8 months old now. It has not been nearly as difficult as everybody makes it seem. But then I work from home and set my own schedule so I could do whatever she needs at any time.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 08:43 PM
1

This is not true. I'm heavily interested in genealogy (including genetic genealogy). I've tested with numerous companies and tested family members as well. 23 and Me is actually the most accurate in terms of genetic breakdown in my experience.
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 07:52 PM
1

Had my daughter through gestational surrogacy. $120k later, I know she is mine. You get what you pay for. ;)
/r/TheRedPill19/01/18 09:20 AM
2

Absolutely. Rape is turning into a meme now.
/r/MGTOW15/01/18 07:27 AM
2

Agreed.
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 09:43 PM
5

Agreed! I'm also not MRA.
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 07:22 PM
13

I think that they are most likely false accusations in many cases (not all). I do believe that many of these women willingly exchanged sexual favors to further their careers. Now, they are launching smear campaigns likely for one of a few reasons: 1) Attention and validation (we know how women love these things) 2) Revive/improve their careers (opportunists looking to get ahead) 3) The guy did something to upset them and they're getting him back I do agree that these men are mostly scum, but the…
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 07:16 PM
20

This is already happening and has been for many years.
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 07:07 PM
12

Definitely agree with you there!
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 07:05 PM
18

Agreed. That would be awesome!
/r/MGTOW14/01/18 07:04 PM
1

Technology has made it so women are not necessary to have children for men with means. Another option is to leave the western world and find a woman overseas.
/r/MGTOW08/01/18 09:30 AM
4

Sounds like a great marriage to me. I was born way too late though, unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 07:48 AM
3

LOL fucking cunts. All the same. AWALT
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 07:44 AM
10

They're both fucked up. So they're perfect for each other.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 06:32 AM
1

This reflects worse on the men. Most men ARE like this, which is why we have the shitty situation that exists today and why women have so much power in our society.
/r/MGTOW03/01/18 06:30 AM
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