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I think the broader point is that, if you’re not already a network “hub” like I am because that’s not your personality, you’d do well to make friends with one. I think this is pretty close to the OP's main point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 07:41 PM
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I think the key concept here is "all else equal." Wherever you stand in the dating hierarchy, you will have greater success the wider and more helpful your social network is. A guy otherwise near the top of the hierarchy is going to have a tough time if he's a socially-challenged shut-in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/26 06:03 PM
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https://www.curves.com/ A gym experience just for women. You're welcome. Of course you still have to actually go and work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 11:13 PM
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If you get hit by a car as a kid and are disabled for life, your logic says it's your fault. Uhh... no, it does not. It's not the kid's fault. But, ultimately, it's the kid's responsibility to deal with it. He can hope that others will help him out - that would be great - but outside of his family he probably shouldn't assume or expect that this will happen to any material extent. If no one is helping you then we don't live in a society, we live in a jungle. Well, we live in society that display…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:41 PM
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Straw man. I never said the world was just. In fact, it's almost comically unjust. But that doesn't change the fact that your problems are your own, you have to work them out yourself, and blaming others is a complete waste of time. You can't count on anyone helping you to any material degree. Who, for example, is helping you? Exactly. No one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:57 AM
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Romantically, probably so. (But there are other forms of love, of course.) Is that number 5% or 25% or whatever? I have no clue. Can some of these folks become lovable through sheer force of will? Probably... but it's also probably not a big percentage of the total. It's very difficult to radically change one's core personality, sociability, bone structure, etc after a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:55 AM
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Yes, very few things outside of math and science are "entirely correct." Nevertheless, the following is axiomatic: The single common element to 100% of your failed relationships is... you. Doesn't mean you're to blame in every case. But somehow you're always there. Applies to all of us, of course. Which brings me back to that mirror...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:43 AM
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Because it's enjoyable. Things don't have to last your whole life to be worthwhile. You might start a business and sell it. You might have a pet you love despite knowing it will die long before you do. You might play in sporting events knowing the match/season will end. The meal you had last night will be followed by countless others, and hopefully not all the same. Etc etc etc. Life is just a series of projects that, if you're lucky, you enjoy doing. Most people aren't so lucky and these projec…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 12:17 AM
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Not really, because a woman wanting to build a life with a man means that she is sacrificing raw desire in the man, in exchange for stability and investment. Aka, locking down a beta buxx delux. "Relationship" does not necessarily equal "building a life" together. The best sex I've ever had has been in the context of long-term relationships. I have no interest in cohabitating or building a life with someone. From a man’s perspective, a hookup is max reward, for lowest cost. Only if she's (1) hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:17 PM
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Like virtually every term that exists in the "pill world", the definition of "simp" is determined by the biases of the person applying the definition. One school says that a "simp" is any man who is in any relationship that is not on financially equal footing. So, by this definition, the vast majority of men are simps because they are, on some level, subsidizing their girlfriends/wives on a net basis. It doesn't matter what these men feel they're getting in return for this "simping" behavior; if…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:21 AM
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____________ have ruined the dating world. You can fill in that blank with any number of things - simps, chads, red pillers, blue pillers, black pillers, social media, dating apps, betabuxxers, gold diggers, your mother, your dog, etc etc etc - and it won't change the only thing that matters where dating/relationships are concerned: Your failures are your own. The only person you have to blame is the person you see in the mirror. Suck it up, buttercup. Or just continue to shout into the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:06 AM
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"You're born alone and you die alone. And the world piles a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget that fact. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow because there isn't one." - Draper, D. I've been living alone my entire adult life because I have no desire to live with someone. I got a vasectomy at 32 because I knew I didn't want kids. I've been in over a dozen relationships of various duration for about 30 years of my adult life. Because I play tennis, padel, and write…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/26 03:31 PM
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Because women don’t expect things to go that way. It’s pretty obvious and it shouldn’t be a head scratcher. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt but I guess the gullibility, stupidity and general lack of life experience of many young people is a sufficiently powerful force to lead many of them to make horrible decisions. It's marshmallow eaters writ large. men should celebrate women liberating themselves from men. Agree completely. But changes nothing with respect to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/26 03:44 PM
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It's probably both but your view begs the question... why do so many continue to willingly put themselves in these situations? It simply boggles the mind. I have no interest in marriage as a man, and I certainly wouldn't get married if I was a woman. Outside of my explanation, it's a real head scratcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:51 PM
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And women having your mentality is just a reflection of female denial, naivete, and magical thinking. I rather enjoy my depravity, if that's what it is. But I digress...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 10:40 PM
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In most cases, yes, but I don't know what that has to do with anything. She only has sex with him because she doesn't want to lose the material/social benefits associated with the marriage, nor deal with any custody-related issues. The value of these various things she wants to maintain is up for debate (and subjective), but... she's only having sex to maintain them. I'm fine with this, by the way - I could not care less. And Society is ok with it. What I find amusing, however, is that Society i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:37 PM
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but that does not retroactively turn the entire marital arrangement into a commercial sex transaction. Christ on a crutches, another straw man... I never said it "retroactively" turned the marital arrangement into a sex transaction. It probably started out with good intentions from both parties. What I'm saying is that it turns the current arrangement into a sex transaction: sex in exchange for security and comfort. Calling it “occasional sex work” erases the distinction between financial depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:16 PM
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You are equating “sex and money exist in a relationship” with “every relationship is a form of sex work”. No, not in the least. That's quite a straw man you've built there. There are plenty of relationships in which the financial obligations are shared quite equally. I was speaking to a very specific relationship that is, however, not all that uncommon. Unfortunately most men make this mistake, and have a hard time differentiating between a SAHM and a SW. Nope. Also incorrect. Again, I'm speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:05 PM
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If she's having sex to keep the marriage, then i would say she is having sex for survival. Isn't that what most sex work is? I'm not disagreeing with you here but, again, both of these situations seem obviously transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:52 PM
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Ok, but... if (1) is a sex worker... isn't (2) as well? They're both only having sex in exchange for material benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:38 PM
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[Copied from above] I'm not disagreeing with you, but... explain the day-to-day/transactional difference between these two women: (1) A woman who is in a long-term monogamous relationship (which includes sex) with an unmarried man in which he pays her (let's say $5,000 a month just to pick a number). She is not overly attracted to the man and the sex is mostly just a requirement for the arrangement. Otherwise, she gets along fine with him on a personal level. (2) A stay-at-home mom who has two k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:36 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but... explain the day-to-day/transactional difference between these two women: (1) A woman who is in a long-term monogamous relationship (which includes sex) with an unmarried man in which he pays her (let's say $5,000 a month just to pick a number). She is not overly attracted to the man and the sex is mostly just a requirement for the arrangement. Otherwise, she gets along fine with him on a personal level. (2) A stay-at-home mom who has two kids with her husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:34 PM
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"There have been a lot of new dating trends to emerge in the past 12 months, from sober dates to 'bae-realing' and conscious-swiping. But next year will see the rise of a brand new craze amongst singletons - age-gap romances." https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/sex-relationships/relationships/age-gap-relationships-set-boom-31452658 There are many more of this ilk. Who to believe...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:25 PM
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Agreed. This entire sub, incuding all of your and my comments, is irrelevant. It's entertainment. And you are Exhibit A. Now, empty that cat litter. The poop is piling up. 🐱
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:49 PM
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Yes, as you keep saying. Over and over and over again. I'm 99.9% certain you are unattractive, so you're in good company with your male counterparts. "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:33 PM
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My original comment to you. This is not complicated. How do you navigate... nevermind.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:19 PM
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No I never see any attractive guys in person A single global (alleged) exception. Comment stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:13 PM
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Yeah, I saw that. Comment stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:08 PM
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We've got an unattractive cat lady with no tv who doesn't find any man attractive in person. Hey, I love it. Archetypal PPD poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:52 PM
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Google is your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:36 PM
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Hey, that's great. I have no dog in this fight as I don't allow society to dictate to me what is an acceptable behavior. It doesn't explain, however, why age gap relationships - outside of marriage, that is - are on the rise. Apparently age gaps have been shrinking very slightly over time where marriage is concerned. I don't pretend to know what it all means, nor do I really care. I just find these discussions - and particularly the outrage - highly amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:16 PM
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It's truly amazing what these guys have accomplished - socially, financially, artistically, etc - despite being Creepy Weirdo Losers. It's almost as if so few people share your view that it's... completely irrelevant. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:58 PM
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Note to self... all of the following are Creepy Weirdos: Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Statham, Harrison Ford, Michael Douglas, Matthew McConaughey, Bruce Willis, Jeff Goldblum, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Chris Evans... I could go on and on and on. They're everwhere, I tell ya. This Creepy Weirdo designation is starting to look downright complimentary; dare I say, aspirational.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:15 PM
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It seems that "feminine wiles" often result in power imbalances but they're rarely mentioned because they can't be measured as precisely as money, education, age, etc. It seems quite common for men to be taken advantage of financially by attractive (younger?) women. (Contemplate all of these naive men sending billions, cumulatively, to their parasocial girlfriends on onlyfans, etc.) I have no issue with this power imbalance, by the way - hey, you use what you have at your disposal - but you rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:09 PM
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Most attractive, charming, wealthy guys are getting into relationships other attractive, charming wealthy women. ...Even if the girl is a making minimum wage, if she’s with a wealthy man, she usually will be from a wealthy family herself... I don't disagree. But I'm not talking about "most," I'm talking about the exceptions which, based on my experience, are many and varied. I've known several guys who ran into this issue and it was always a bit tricky to address. Even if she's from an upper-mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
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Most men aren't very wealthy (by definition). Forget about baristas and minimum wage earners, there are professionals that need to live with roommates in big cities. The question remains unanswered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:53 PM
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leading with their wallet How does a wealthy guy - assume he's attractive, charming, etc - date a normally-employed woman anywhere in the world without some degree of finances being involved? I'm genuinely curious. Let's say he's dating some normally-employed woman and he wants to go to Saint-Tropez for a week, first class all the way. How does he broach the topic with his girlfriend... "Hey, I'd love for you to come to Saint-Tropez with me and it's going to cost you about $25,000 all-in... are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:55 AM
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I don't really care about pleasing anyone other than whatever woman I'm dating at any given time... and she had better be pleasing the hell out of me as well or it's "hit the bricks and beat it because you are going out." I'm happy to be "counterproductive as a concept." And I don't mind if others are equally counterproductive- it's ok by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 04:17 AM
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I simply don't know why people bother describing themselves and/or their friends on the internet. That's what photos are for. There are literally billions of them all over the internet. If someone wants to know what I look like I just say, click on the link in my reddit profile. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:40 AM
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My friends are gorgeous Familiarity Bias and Friendship Bias are alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:27 AM
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If the voluminous research on long-term sexual attraction is even remotely accurate, it's "highly probable" that it will decline materially, not merely "possible." "Hope" is not a great strategy, but to each their own. You should probably prepare yourself for a life filled with many disappointments in the relationship department.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:30 PM
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The logical extension of this is that everyone who doesn't have the very best of everything 100% of the time is miserable. They are constantly comparing everything they have to the very best that's available and coming up wanting. How do you personally manage this misery and survive each day?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:22 PM
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Three questions: (1) Have you ever had a relationship with one of these 100% desire women? (2) Why did it end? (3) Do you not realize that the 100% will fade over time as she gets bored of sex with you? [And (3) begs the question as to why you need to start at 100% to begin with, as it's always going to decline anyway.]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:13 PM
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Thirty to early-forties. I'd date women older but very few are fit enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:21 PM
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If people - men or women - want to be delusional, I'm fine with it. In fact, I encourage it as it's quite amusing. I thought that was reddit's raison d'etre.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:29 PM
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My teens were better than my 20s, my 20s were only ok, my 30s were far, far better than my 20s, I was in a long relationship in my 40s, and my 50s have been far better than (even) my 30s. The biggest factor in each case: my social network, which has changed (and generally improved) a lot over time as I've moved around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:35 PM
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It's "false equivalence fallacy" not fake equivalence fallacy. There is no such thing as a fake equivalence. Google is your friend. Stop digging.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:13 PM
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Fake equivalence And you meant false equivalence. But anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:25 AM
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Our resident Esther Vilar fan is back... with a new user name. What a surprise. Were you banned and now you're starting anew? I can't remember whether this is your third or fourth account in the last few years. I will never understand this. But it will always be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:47 PM
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that situation often leads to passionless marriages, dead bedrooms, and divorce. I would argue that marriage, itself, leads to passionless marriage, dead bedroom, divorce, etc. These things have little to do with being "settled for." Familiarity, kids, jobs, mortgages, stress, looks declining with aging, people changing, etc etc... I don't care how attractive the principals are/were, this is a recipe for a dying romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 04:00 PM
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you've attempted to extend to something that has far deeper personal and social meaning For you, maybe. But I agree with OP. In my opinion - that is, to me, personally - sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. If you and others choose to assign "deeper personal and social meaning" to it, that's fine. But many folks don't. Which is also fine. The question is why so many folks ascribe this "deeper personal and social meaning" to sex, and I'd argue it's largely evolution, religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:06 AM
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Not married but I've been in a series of non-cohabitating LTRs over the years. (I've lived in Latin America for many years now, although I still own property in the US.) Where dating is concerned my social network is the best it's ever been - including a cosmetic surgeon, a social media manager (you can't imagine these parties), tennis/padel players, musicians, etc. Constant social events. There are boatloads of attractive, fitness-obsessed 30s/40s women in this crowd. I certainly wouldn't have …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 05:10 PM
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I had fun as a teen and young adult, pretty fun time even during my working years, and even more fun after I retired (in my mid-40s). The last decade has been by far the best of my life mainly because I've had both the time and resources (and no wife or kids) to do whatever I wanted - travel, date, compete in sports, make music, philanthropy, etc etc - without answering to anyone. My contentment level now is far higher than when I was a teen and had to go to school, work and had limited money or…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:46 PM
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That's such a wide spectrum that it's hard to know what anyone would be specifically criticizing if being critical of "passport bros," generally. The experiences of (1) and (5), for example, are so different that they may as well be living on different planets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:53 PM
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I'm struggling to understand what, exactly, is a "passport bro." Which of the following (common scenarios) qualify: Guy has a job in the US and uses his month of annual vacation time to travel to developing nations and meet women. Doesn't speak the local languages. Has no social ties to the countries. Uses dating apps, translator apps, and pays the women for dates/sex. But is willing to explore marriage and bring her back to the US if he finds the right one. Same as (1) above but doesn't pay the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:40 PM
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Escortmaxxing with extra Steps I wonder how many marriages - foreign woman involved or not - in which the man is the primary provider, would the woman leave if the man could no longer provide for her (and children)? (In over 30% of divorces, finances are noted as the primary cause.) If finances are a component of a woman's decision to marry a man... is he "escortmaxxing with extra steps"? Since "money and status in any form" are there... I guess these aren't "real relationships." I guess Brad Pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 04:05 PM
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If men want to play in the sandbox of younger women, they're going to have to be exceptional. Unless they're just paying, which is also fine, but comes with its own set of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:51 PM
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The issue isn't age, for the most part, it's appearance; age, per se, is a red herring. The reality is the overwhelming majority of people - men and women - age poorly. Because they don't take care of themselves (and have poor genetics). Past 40 most people's looks decline rapidly and by 50 it's Welcome to Toiletville. When women say they aren't attracted to "old men" what they're really saying is they're not attracted to fat, bald, pasty, hairy, wrinkly, inactive men. Which describes most old m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:27 PM
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Don't marry or cohabitate. Don't stick around if the sex goes south. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:36 AM
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Let's take it a step further. If she'll only stay with you because you're going to marry her (or are married to her) then she must not be that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:23 AM
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The thing about all 'pills' is that they do not explain you the whole world, they explain your reality. This is not pointed out enough. If you're a "sub-3" male, for example, hardly any amount of red or blue pilling activities is going to help your sexual/relationship options a lot. The world may as well be black pilled for you (but nothing is impossible, of course). But once you get above that, you will see examples of red and blue pill "successes" (and failures)... as well as those of black pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:09 PM
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And there you have it. Good solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 06:24 PM
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a lot of women (me included) find only 1-2% of men attractive. So, purely out of curiosity - applying some simple math - do you (and these other many women) just not date? Or do you/they date men they don't find attractive? (For perspective, I'm probably at 3%. I won't date anyone I don't find extremely attractive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:12 PM
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This sub is in my top-5 most amusing. I mean the flairs alone... comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:26 PM
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What about the norm, which is she had regular sex with him in the beginning of the marriage but after kids, work, stress, both getting out of shape, etc... sex just got boring? This happens all the time. People aren't mind readers or futurists. Sometimes things just change over time. Don't get me wrong, I have zero interest in marriage. But I don't expect people - men or women - to know what their sex lives are going to be like in 10 or 20 years after a lot of life happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:55 PM
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Ah, so if you said, "I don't recall anchovies being used in Italian food," and I responded, "Well, anchovies are sometimes put on pizza," you would respond with: "We weren't discussing the Italian food sub-genre of pizza! Again!" Oki doki.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:55 PM
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You said, and I quote: I do not recall the male romantic leads being abusive towards their partners. Well, the books I posted a link to - which are a sub-genre of "dark romance" novels, the topic of the OP - have male romantic leads that are abusive towards their partners. Some women have kinks. Indeed. Some women like to be abused. I may find it odd, but I have no issue with it personally. No, it is not new information. Again, I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:30 PM
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I don't care about romance novels but, for the record, there's an entire genre called "non-consensual dark romance": https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/dark-non-con-abuse I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:00 PM
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I guess no 20-year old woman has ever loved a man and later despised him...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:45 AM
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If you want lifetime anything-of-value, you work on it for your entire life. If you want to be healthy for your entire life, you work on it for your whole life. If you want to be exceptional at a sport or activity, you work on it for your entire life. Etc. I don't see an issue here. Embrace the journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:12 PM
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58, zero, I've been dating a woman for about two years. Generally, however, I only approach women who I meet through my social network. The success rate has been very high. I don't bother with online dating or women who don't know someone I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:43 PM
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Lmao. Not going to defend your defense of namecalling? K.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 07:34 PM
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First redditor in almost ten years here that I've seen defend name-calling in any context. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:46 AM
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That doesn't have to do with looks then. It got boring because I didn't find her attractive anymore. And she looked almost the same as she did when we met. She was a personal trainer. She looked great to others. There's the old saying, For every hot woman out there, there's a guy who's tired of fucking her. And it cuts both ways. Variety is the spice of life, etc. I mean, I'm not being critical, but it sounds like you just went through a dying bedroom situation then tried to start over with new …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:41 AM
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The funny thing about looks is that when you see someone every day, they still look the same as the day you met in many respects. This has not been true for me. To use just one example, I was in a relationship for over a decade. The sex got pretty boring towards the end. It was no one's fault. It's the norm with the passage of time. We're still close friends. Hell, look in the mirror. You probably still see yourself as a teenager or 20 something year old in some respects. No, I don't. In some wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:52 PM
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I like to debate Then no need to use the term "debate."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:25 PM
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I like to debate Then no need to use the term "debate."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:24 PM
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:08 PM
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If you enjoy proper debate then you'd know using ad hominems like "loser" is a logical fallacy and earns you an early loss in Debate 101. Your point may very well be correct - I have no opinion - but I always chuckle when people bring up the subject of "debate" on reddit and then display clearly that they don't know how to actually engage in it properly. If that's pedantic, well, guilty as charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:05 AM
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I defy the myth. I must be superhuman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:17 PM
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So, it's not (entirely) a myth; it's mostly a myth. That's a distinction with an important difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:42 PM
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My dating life in my 50s has been by far my best. Of course I was in a decade-long relationship during my 40s so it's impossible to know what dating would have been like then. This is all anecdotal of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:21 PM
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I thought paying prostitutes for sex was simping. Have I got that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:48 AM
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I'm confused. A lot of folks here would have me believe that buying a woman dinner - even in the context of a relationship - is simping. This is part of the challenge with all of the pill-related discussions - the definitions of terms are dependent upon the person using them. Kind of like religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:58 AM
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So, someone religious or a guy with few other options. I don't know who else would put up with this interminable job interview vetting process. I don't see how folks can even begin to discuss "commitment, the future, and sexual exclusivity" before they've had sex. But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:11 AM
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I have no dog in this fight, but that half of couples are meeting via online dating apps is an oft-repeated myth: https://nuancepill.substack.com/p/how-many-couples-meet-online
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 07:50 PM
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This man's self-appraisal of himself, or one or more of these characteristics, is likely biased. Or he's just incredibly unlucky, in which case... life's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:18 PM
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No. Marriage and cohabitation are for people who need constant companionship and/or are overly concerned with following social norms, which applies to most people; it's a feature of the human condition. Kids are for people who are slaves to their biological programming. I'm a very social person but I don't really consider other peoples' opinions of me. I've denied my programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:46 PM
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So you hang out with the girls that you see on cam sites where if someone sends in enough tokens they spread their assholes to the camera Yes, among other folks. I have lots of different types of friends. He he, well I may be a wage slave but I am compensated quite well. And I don't have to spread my asshole for chicken change I suspect we have very different ideas of what constitutes "quite well" where compensation is concerned. Further, who pays someone "quite well" that confuses "generally" w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 09:35 PM
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Now I am generally confused. Although you are clearly "generally" confused, the word you're looking for here is "genuinely." As in, "You are genuinely confused by the English language." What is an "E-girl" and OnlyFans girl if not a sex worker selling her body and image for money? According to Merriam-Webster, the most often-used definition of prostitution would involve sexual acts with another person, and especially sexual intercourse, in exchange for pay. However, the second definition is, som…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:33 PM
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In Columbia, prostitute parties? Well, I'm not sure which Columbia you're referring to. But while I'm sure there are some prostitutes at these parties - in Colombia - the overwhelming majority of women that attend these parties work on the internet, if they work in the adult entertainment industry at all, that is. But, yes, there are prostitute parties in Colombia. I've heard some stories but never actually been to one. So youre contention is that girls in sex work like anal more? My contention …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:50 PM
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Oh why do you say that? What world do you live in? I've lived in Latin America for over 12 years. For the last six years I've lived most of the year in Colombia. Among my social network are a guy that does promotional/admin work for e-girls (instagram, tiktok, onlyfans, etc) as well as a cosmetic surgeon. I don't think you can fathom the parties these guys throw. I've been asked many times by their clients to do amateur porn. I've accepted from time to time. That's the world I live in. I'm not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:59 AM
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I think we're parsing semantics. Average generally isn't "attractive." I assume "not attractive" is "unattractive"... but that may not be the case for many folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:49 AM
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Straw manning aside, I don't bring it up nor do I force it upon them. They initiate (or ask), which is the first clue that they enjoy it. I suspect I live in a very different world than you. I'm not sure why you're so emotional about this as it clearly has nothing at all to do with you. Live and let live, right; well, or judge and have a fit. Either is ok by me. Edit: spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:45 AM
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I think if she stated it as a preference, yes, it would strain credulity a bit. But if she said she had no issues having sex with short guys because she just liked having sex and didn't care much about height... I wouldn't find that particularly odd. Substitute "short" with "ugly" and same response.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:36 AM
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No, I just come across a lot of them, fortunately; there are just a lot of them in my social network. I don't think they feel it's degrading, just pleasurable. Or if they do feel it's degrading, they happen to derive pleasure from that. I don't question or judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:29 AM
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Got it. I normally look for the /s,
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:48 AM
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We wouldn't last more than a few dates. If she doesn't enjoy ("enjoy," not "permit") anal sex, then it's not going to work out. It has nothing to do with whatever she has or hasn't done with previous partners. It's ok to have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:05 PM
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Two questions: (1) Would it have been less "gross" for him to simply use the term "unattractive"? (2) If a woman said she enjoyed having sex with unattractive men would you find it "gross"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:00 PM
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The lesson is: don't be average; be the exception to the rule(s). Otherwise, accept the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:44 PM
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Brad Pitt is ~25 years older than his current girlfriend and not a single complaint from the peanut gallery. Why? He's still fit and nice looking. The reason Leo catches so much flak is that he's dating models while being portly and no longer particularly attractive; it (obviously and uncomfortably) illuminates the transactional nature of the relationship. To the masses the larger issue in most of these big age gap relationships isn't the age gap but rather the attractiveness gap. It skirts a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:58 AM
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I'm older and I've pretty much seen it all. I learned about this pill business when I joined reddit and have contemplated it through the lens of situations from my past. In summary, I have seen the red pill yield, and fail to yield, results. I have seen the blue pill yield, and fail to yield, results. I have seen the black pill yield, and fail to yield, results. It's all dependent upon the people and circumstances involved. People who are really adamant about one pill being the "true pill" appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:40 PM
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And yet in all of your god-knows-how-many posts/comments... you've never betrayed any sense of humour whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:02 PM
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To entertain myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:20 AM
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There's no Union of Men where dating is concerned. It's every man for himself. No one will listen to you. I don't know why you bother with the same message over and over and over every single week. It achieves nothing aside from others' amusement. But if you're a masochistic Sisyphean archetype, well, keep at it I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:11 PM
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And this shows me that the world isn’t unfair. You've figured it out. No dismissive advice necessary. There are not good solutions to every person's problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:10 AM
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What do you propose to be done about this? I think there's nothing. Times they are a changin'. It's quite possible that more men will be sexless. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:03 PM
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Someone calls Robert De Niro a terrible actor. De Niro posts a photo of his Oscars and says, "Your turn, genius." Has De Niro personally attacked this person? That's a rhetorical question. If you're running through the jungle and the person chasing you falls into quicksand, you haven't personally attacked them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:30 PM
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I'm bewildered. This is not a personal attack. The guy thinks he's clever. It's an offer to prove himself correct. He brought the issue up, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 12:12 AM
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Great idea. Let's compare intelligence. We can start with some basics then work forward from there. This is me: http://mch-inc.com/management.php Now, genius, who are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:23 PM
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Indeed. It never gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:27 PM
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It's a joke. Apologies, I forgot you had no sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:21 PM
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No Esther Vilar quote? You're getting lazy. Do better!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:57 PM
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There you go. Thanks. You'd expect this but you just never know...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:13 PM
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The abstract you linked to doesn't mention any of this. The actual research paper is only available for a fee. (I was interested in reading it.) Did you pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:02 PM
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I think what you mean is "the inability to get married" is bad for you. The article states that a principal negative associated with being single (after 30) is "social stigma"; basically, the stress associated with this stigma is unhealthy. I could have married most of my past girlfriends, as well as my current one, but I've never been interested because I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation, or children. Being single has been the healthiest choice I've ever made. Of course, I'm immune to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:59 PM
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To some people - mostly folks obsessed with social acceptance - yes. But you said "cheaper"... which it generally isn't if you're wealthy. Marriage (and kids) is often the most expensive venture any wealthy person enters into. Ask any divorce attorney at a white shoe firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:55 PM
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Wealthy people are more likely to get married for sociocultural reasons - it's expected of them and most are conformists. They are less likely to get divorced because it's more complicated and expensive than when you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:24 PM
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If you're not wealthy, yes. If you're wealthy, it's far cheaper to have a maid, prostitute (or girlfriend), personal assistant, and let restaurants do your cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:50 AM
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Not the last word(s) but some context regarding that oft-cited article might help here: https://jacipriano.substack.com/p/the-okcupid-chart-is-bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:16 PM
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I don't even know what these men's issues are. I've never felt particularly oppressed or put upon by women. And I don't need or desire their sympathy or empathy. If certain women want to be misandrists... it's ok by me. I'll just avoid them. It's mind over matter; I don't mind because they don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:15 AM
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without bothering to actually trying to deal with the issue. What is "the issue"? That women tend to overrate themselves? Who cares? I don't care if men or women overrate or underrate themselves. They can feel however they want about themselves - it has nothing to do with me. If you don't like someone or they don't like you - for whatever reason - just move on. As Roger Sterling liked to say, "When god closes a door, he opens a skirt."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:22 PM
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My social network (friends, parties, events, etc) and sports (tennis and padel) have been the source of 90% of my girlfriends over the years. Although I suppose my current girlfriend was a cold approach; however, it was at a dog rescue cafe so we both had an obvious shared interest, so it wasnt at all awkward. I would be reluctant to approach any woman out of the blue with no shared acquaintance or interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:54 AM
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My experience is anecdotal, obviously, but over the last 20+ years I've had relationships of 10 years (11 year gap), 2 years (14 year gap), 1 year (16 year gap), 3 years (25 year gap), and currently 2 years into my current relationship (26 year gap), along with some shorter ones sprinkled in there. I'm 58. Just for perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:21 PM
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Just convenience, really. We don't have to use condoms nor worry about STDs. (I'm not worried about pregnancy because I've had a vasectomy.) Generally, it's her that wants the exclusivity and I'm fine with it. I'm too lazy and incompetent to juggle multiple women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:06 PM
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If you need to be "taken care of" at 60 your lifestyle has taken a very wrong turn (and/or you're unlucky). I'll be 60 next year and I'm fitter than 80%+ of 30-year olds, at least according to my doctor. (Of course, most 30-year olds are inactive, unhealthy blobs in this day and age.) Now at 80, that's a different story. But I'm confident I'll be able to change my own diapers by that point, if I live (or even desire to live) that long. The last thing I'd want is someone I was dating having to "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:00 AM
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I've been in several over the years (including currently), the longest lasting almost 10 years. No regrets whatsoever. I'm not looking for a cook, maid or nurse. And I have zero interest in marriage. So she can leave my "old ass" whenever she pleases - with godspeed. Happy to embrace "total idiocy."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:35 AM
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Ha! Did you build that straw man all by yourself? I find Trump and his supporters to be silly people. Further, most women - and men (!) - that live in Latin America would agree with my comment. But, right, I guess they're all MAGA supporters... This is the problem with internet anonymity. People like you just spout ridiculous bullshit from behind their keyboards and no one's the wiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:35 AM
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I doubt it. A lot of Latinos just want to screw around with no responsibilities. How they're treated has little to do with anything. It's just a cultural issue. You probably can't relate to it having never lived in Latin America. To be clear, I don't really care. I'm indifferent to this phenomenon. I had a vasectomy over 25 years ago. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:06 AM
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That's a great idea. But they can't "work as a family unit" if the father has no interest in so doing. It can't be forced upon him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:45 AM
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That's comical. In most cases they choose to have kids with these men because they're under the mistaken impression (re: they're lied to) that the men will help them raise these kids. So the men do exactly what you say they "never" can: procreate with no future responsibility. Generally the women don't pursue them for money, not out of moral character, but rather because these men don't have any money, so it's a waste of time. Also, most of these countries are very Catholic so abortion is frowne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:06 PM
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On some level it's true. I admit it. I watch this continuous, neverending flailing and I think, how does this person navigate through life. And I'm amused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 PM
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Every week another post, exact same theme followed by an Esther Vilar quote. Over and over and over and over... Christ on a bicycle. I give you points for tenacity but you are a broken record.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:43 PM
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Never? I've lived in Latin America for over a decade. Believe me, they often choose both; in fact, it's a cultural norm. Why women allow for it is beyond me. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:28 PM
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I'm quoting this for irony: And yet they live rent-free in your head. You're obsessed because you're threatened. You talk shit because you hate their noncompliance. You chastise them because they're free and you're... shackled to groveling for women. If you didn't care, you'd tell me sayonara and move on. But clearly you can't. You're in this to prove something and the more you try to prove it the more you discredit it. It seems like you're both living rent free in each others' heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 04:38 AM
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I sense none of this from his reply. Where is this coming from? What am I missing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 01:44 AM
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But... why? What is the rationale for this fear? If you date a woman for a few years and you're utterly convinced she's insatiably attracted to you - even though it's all an act - then for whatever you break up, move on, and never know the truth... who cares? It's like the philosophical question: If a tree falls in the woods and there's nothing there to hear it, does it make a sound? It doesn't matter. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:44 PM
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A question is, does it actually matter which type of attraction it is if the guy isn't interested in marriage? If the woman is so desperate to get status and resources and can summon an Oscar-worthy performance of physical attraction over a long period of time... does it matter that it isn't "real"? Few people can tell the difference between Coca Cola made with real sugar and high fructose corn syrup. Ignorance is often bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:58 PM
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My favorite hobby when single was sleeping with hot men I couldn’t imagine being in a long term relationship with. I have no issues with this whatsoever but... haven't you been married since you were a teenager? Correct me if I'm wrong but it doesn't seem like you'd have had much time for sleeping with many "hot men" prior to getting married. You traveled all over the world as a teenager with your mother? That's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:07 AM
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Most normal people prefer a long term partner be close to their age. Putting the issue of age gap attraction aside, "most normal people" lead galactically uninteresting lives. I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would look to this group for any cues whatsoever as to how to lead a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:38 AM
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Let's assume, for argument's sake, you're right. So what? Whatever problem it is you think you've identified isn't going to change. Maybe a lot of women are delusional and will be single and miserable (cat ladies!!). Maybe a lot of men will end up single and miserable (gaming gooners!!). There's really nothing to be done here. If people can't figure out how to be happy in a romantic sense there's no set of policies that will change it. It's just a feature of the human condition as humanity has p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:43 AM
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It's actually called "hyperbole." Regardless, you can "win" by proving me wrong. That is, that you're not an anonymous redditor - who is so paranoid that he bothers to hide his comment history (!) - that whines about women keeping him and other men down. Your position is patently ridiculous. But in the mind of someone who is helpless and feels persecuted... it probably makes sense. So I'll give you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:03 AM
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I'm conceding that you've lost at life. Happy to be proven wrong. But that would require a set of facts that don't exist and a spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:59 AM
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You're right. Your life is over. Women have defeated you. They've turned you into a shell of a man. You should probably just give up now. Whining about women on reddit probably isn't going to help your situation very much. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:50 AM
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It does, in fact, say something about oppression. It says two things: (1) attention is a zero sum game, and (2) men are being oppressed because women are getting too large a share of this attention. Personally, I don't want any more attention than I already have. I don't really care what feminists are up to. It's mind over matter; I don't mind because they don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:39 AM
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It's hard for me to sympathize with a man who's too lazy or dumb to not get a prenuptial agreement (and avoid this 50/50 business). I'm divorced. I had a prenup. It was unchallenged and our divorce was amicable. I'm still friends with my ex-wife 12 years later and she's remarried. I can't think of any way that I've ever been impacted by female privilege so I simply have no idea what you're talking about here. Maybe I'm missing something here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:35 AM
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Beg to differ: They [women] are the ones causing men's issues being neglected by demanding that all the attention is only ever on themselves. Pretty sure that says, "Women are oppressing me by demanding that all the attention is on themselves." Is there some other interpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:48 PM
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No. Did you build that straw man all by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:37 PM
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I guess she struck a nerve. I mean... men still largely control things on this planet (politically, economically, etc). Most men's issues are the result of policies put in place (and supported) by other men. Outside of dating/relationships/sex... women seldom have the power to oppress men; other men do. I've never felt oppressed by a woman, singularly, or women as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:11 PM
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I’m not taking you seriously and neither should anyone else. Quoted for (extreme) irony. Also beyond ironic that you're a 5'4 "subhuman" (according to short folks on reddit), you're blackpilled, and you have a wife. How does a "genetic subhuman" - in your own vernacular - end up married? Doesn't that directly contradict the black pill? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:38 PM
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Calling people pathetic for yearning for human connection and doing things at a cost to themselves for the sake of forming in relationships in the only way they know how to is honestly disgusting. Pathetic, pitiful, sad, etc. I sincerely hope these men can overcome their challenges but I think these are appropriate adjectives under the circumstances. I also think that blaming women as a whole for the issues dateless men face is honestly disgusting. But I can't take someone who has a clear lack o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 02:21 PM
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Why? Because you don’t think the levels of harm rise to anything you deem valid or because you find the idea preposterous? I don't think the levels of harm in the realm of dating rise to anything to which there's any practical solution. Some men are undatable. This is not women's fault. There are some problems in the world that are no one's fault and are also unfixable. Most adults understand this. It’s definitely the case that women rely on the current state of dating in order to exploit men. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:41 PM
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For the record: Women deserve everything in a relationship ^^This I disagree with. men aren't entitled to sex, even in a relationship ^^This I agree with. If she doesn't want to have sex... end the relationship and move on. If you're not having sex, you're not in a "romantic relationship"; you're in something else. But, yes, there are some women here who like to beat a dead horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:25 PM
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Sure, you can do whatever you want. But "naming a problem" would be something on the order of, "Some females' behavior may cause issues within the realm of dating." Writing 15 paragraphs about how "women are the main problem in dating" without offering any solutions is just whining and moaning. Which is ok, too. But don't be surprised when someone points this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 PM
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One wistfully wonders... what are your proposed solutions to this state of affairs? Outside of increased whining and moaning, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:20 PM
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In a racist society, yes, there are social reforms that could be helpful. But you're a man talking about being persecuted by women, as a group. Which I find absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:02 PM
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Actually, perhaps you should blame yourself more. My problems are my own. I don't blame others for them. Your problems are your own. Blaming women as a group for your issues is ludicrous. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:46 PM
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This guy has posted some variation of the same post almost every week for maybe a year. It often ends with an Esther Vilar quote. He's got some bug up his ass about any guy that might buy a woman dinner. Maybe he's been unemployed and girlfriendless for a long time. I don't know but it's bizarre even by reddit standards. But at least he's consistently amusing. So I give him points for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:03 AM
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There are two groups of people you cannot listen to for dating advice: women... and men. You just have to figure these things out for yourself. And if you can't... welp, life ain't fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 05:52 PM
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No metric is perfect, of course, but "books read per year" is probably more indicative, on average, of someone being interesting/informed than, say, hours spent playing video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:56 AM
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Most people - men and women - are uninteresting and uniformed. I mean... 70% of US adults read less than 10 books a year. Only 12% of US adults travel abroad each year, half of those go to Canada or Mexico, and a large percentage of the individuals that comprise that 12% doesn't change much from year to year. Most Americans have never been outside of North America. Almost 60% of US adults live within 10 miles of the house they grew up in. Most people are wage slaves leading tedious boring lives.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:58 AM
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Indeed (about 10 percentage points lower) but with "overweight" (which includes obese) at 60% in the Austin metro, it still ain't that great, particularly compared with 25 years ago. I suspect the problem is ocular sampling error. It's kind of amazing that rates of obesity and overweight have more than tripled (!) nationwide in just sixty years.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 10:55 PM
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I agree that they're very efficient but in the precious little time I've spent on apps my first thought has been that 98% of the women are insufficiently attractive (to my tastes). So the efficiency has no value for me. My social network has been far more effective for meeting women. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 11:49 PM
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If he’s looking for a wife ... then he's fucked right out of the gates. You can’t bring a waitress home to mumsey. Sure you can. I was in a 10-year relationship with a personal trainer. My "mumsey" had no issues with her. Probably because she knew she had no choice. Mumsey's sway over my life ended when I became an adult. Only a wet noodle chooses partners based on what his parents think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:32 PM
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Forgetting about the pill baloney altogether, can't we be honest that there's a 98% probability that a married bi-guy in his forties with a Star Wars username is not particularly attractive, and nor is his partner. There's nothing wrong with any of these things but... c'mon now. You can barely understand each other because you two are living on two different planets.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:10 PM
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I have already explained it to you. I've read our entire discussion. Everything that's been discussed in a negative light is directly related to the sex. Then you said, "I don't think it's about the sex at all." And now you don't want to explain what it is actually about. So, I'll accept that it's just about the sex and you don't like being called out on your puritanical mindset. But, by all means, feel free to prove me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 11:54 PM
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I don’t think it’s about the sex at all. Ok, let's remove the sex.... so, what is it about? I’m from a third world country that is one of the most traveled to for sex tourism. Let me guess... this country's culture is steeped in Catholicism or some other magical thinking collective... in which out-of-wedlock sex is deemed evil and dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:57 PM
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Well, you say this (which I agree with, by the way): The kinds of men who whine about being entitled to sex and that women are wrong for not giving him sex (the kind of was referring to in my comment) do not respect women, no. ... but then you add this: To seek out a sex worker knowing these are the conditions almost assuredly requires being fucked in the head, and they don’t give a single shit about those women either. So, again, you're saying that all men who have engaged the services of a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:43 PM
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This kind of man does not give a single shit about women anyway, so stop pretending like “he would empathize with women” if we all discouraged him from seeing a prozzie LOL. "This kind of man".... I suspect there are literally tens of millions of men who have seen (and/or continue to see) prostitutes who have wives, mothers, grandmothers, sisters, etc that they love, and women that they are friends with. They probably just don't see sex as some religious purity ritual that taints the participant…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:23 PM
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A big part of the problem is that the average person - male and female - in the US is materially overweight. (40% of US adults are obese, so you can start there.) So, it's not a stretch to say that the "average" person in the US is ugly... I mean, before even getting into any other characteristics these folks are... fat. Fifty years ago this wasn't the case because the incidence of overweight/obesity has more than doubled (!) over that period. So, this notion of "normal looking"... If you’re jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:31 PM
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What's wrong with sex for the love of sex? It's an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It doesn't have to be some pseudo-religious purity ritual just because much of Society is comprised of brainwashed uptight prudes. I don't play tennis with people I love either. We just enjoy playing tennis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:37 AM
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Welp, you're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not bitching about the male loneliness epidemic. I have no issues with the current state of dating/relationships. You should misdirect your anger elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:22 PM
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Don't marry, cohabitate, or have kids. Problems solved. I don't need a woman to do any unpleasant tasks for me at all (and vice versa). Emotional labor? Nonexistant. Everybody wins. It's fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:00 PM
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1-2% of age gap relationships are sugar daddy relationships? I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:59 PM
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Exactly. "Uses" = "Exploits". Anyone who can find a sugar daddy can find a day job and a boyfriend their own age; they choose not to because they prefer to use (re: exploit) this older man. These women have agency. As do the men. It's mutual exploitation. The market at work. Trying to paint one side as the angel or demon is just a reflection of personal politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:36 PM
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Well, let's hope you did actually "beat" it. A lot of folks think they've beat cancer only to discover otherwise later on. My mother thought she beat pancreatic cancer for a few years. She didn't, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:41 PM
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Exploitation cuts both ways. Often it becomes a matter of the younger one using his/her sexual capital to exploit the older one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:35 PM
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Aren't you the guy with cancer that lives in Michigan?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:31 PM
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I've never thought of these "courtship" rituals as particularly taxing or problematic, and certainly not as "emotional labor." Of course, I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation or kids, so maybe I just don't put a lot into my relationships, relatively speaking. Once you decide marriage, kids and/or cohabitation is important to you, you open up a pandora's box of challenges. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:01 AM
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It feels like maybe a solution is to just accept that the majority of relationships are going to have a built in expiration date despite your best efforts to try and keep the spark alive. I think you've solved the puzzle despite wider Society's efforts to convince you otherwise. Accept this and adapt accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:25 AM
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I don't make self-appraisals. Folks can decide that for themselves. I'm not anonymous here. My original comment stands regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:47 PM
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Most are, by mathematical definition. Most people follow Society's diktats and lead unoriginal, uninteresting lives. It's a feature of humanity, not a bug. Further, and ironically, most folks who call out other folks as NPCs are likely NPCs themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:49 PM
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Sex by deception typically applies to situations where the other party has lied about their identity, sexual orientation, disease status, etc. Nevertheless... A woman I dated used to cook cow tongue and didn't tell me what it was for several years. After she told me, I still enjoyed it and did not suffer from tongue by deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:55 PM
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I like myself enough that I wouldn't give it a second thought. It wouldn't change my view of the conversation at all. I'd just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:34 AM
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I don't think many guys are going to lie over a period of months just to get a hook up. Consequently, patience is the best strategy. Regardless, if a woman hooks up with a guy and enjoys the sex... why would she change her mind and decide she didn't enjoy it later? Does finding out a guy doesn't want to be in a relationship change the experience she originally enjoyed? If I enjoy ice cream that I later find out is yogurt (which I normally wouldn't like)... it doesn't change the fact I enjoyed it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:41 AM
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Ok, so... why would you do these things if you didn't think you were going to enjoy them? No one knows where anything is leading early on. It's a crapshoot. If a woman only wants sex in the context of a LTR then she should do a better job of vetting and be very patient. It's not at all complicated. Women have agency. It serves no purpose to infantilize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:17 AM
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I thought women enjoyed sex. Why else would they have it? Are there women having sex with guys and thinking, "I would never put up with this shit (re: sex) if I didn't think this guy was going to marry me"? That sounds pretty depressing for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:28 AM
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Men refuse to admit that they are intimidated by smart, independent women, which is why they tend to go for the nursing / hygienist bimbos. I have no dog in this fight but I find this amusing on a few counts. First, I always find self-appraisals (in this case, "I'm a smart, independent woman") mildly entertaining because the appraiser almost never recognizes their bias. (You might be smart and independent or you might be a complete idiot, but your opinion of yourself in this regard is worthless …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:49 PM
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You write essentially the same post every few weeks. I recognize it because it's always the same theme - "stop chasing women!" - with that Esther Vilar quote at the end. What I don't understand is... why. You're like Sisyphus pushing a rock up a mountain only for it to fall back down to the bottom, and then you repeat the exercise over and over again. It's amusing but bewildering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:10 PM
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Like reddit, generally, this sub's primary value proposition is amusement. Much like how most folks like watching skateboarders and scooter riders get their nuts crushed doing ridiculous stunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:19 PM
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So, no valid electronic-based evidence exists that contradicts anything you believe because it's all just "AI slop." How convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:47 PM
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If you can't compete in or navigate this "modern" dating world, there's nothing to be done. Has reddit ever provided an actionable piece of advice for you on this issue that yielded a positive result? I didn't think so. Sisyphus could relate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 08:56 PM
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Purely out of curiosity, do the women you date know you had sex with men? Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:25 PM
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This is absurd. There are zero males who didn't play tennis as kids that could start playing tennis as adults and beat a top-200 WTA player. No matter how much they trained and practiced. We have genderless UTR ratings and no adult-learning male player has ever made it above 11, which is well below the top-200 WTA. Now there are many college-level male players that could beat WTA professionals. But you're saying something completely different and it's 100% incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:20 PM
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Part of the problem with the OP is the title mentions "dating" and then the body mentions "financially investing in her kids." That's a huge leap. I've dated some (super hot) single moms over the years for multiple years in a few cases, but... we didn't marry or cohabitate, and I certainly didn't act as a stepfather to their kids. I have zero interest in any of that business. Dating single moms has one really attractive quality: they're busy. Their lives revolve around their kids and work, etc w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:29 PM
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This seems like a distinction without a material difference. If the odds of the relationship ending increase dramatically once finances dry up... does it really matter on what foundation the relationship was originally built. Once it ends... it's over; the result is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:55 AM
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I think they're both based off of money... to some degree. And the only real difference is that degree. Seeing as the odds of divorce increase by ~70% when a husband loses his job, I do wonder how great the functional difference is between these two arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:41 AM
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I have zero problem with transactional relationships. None whatsoever. I have no idea where this is coming from. Labeling =/= shaming. I can be labeled in many different ways, none of which I'd regard as shaming me. I provided the labels for the sake of discussion, specifically Society's hypocrisy regarding them. The descriptions I provided are my own, so there's nothing for you to agree with regarding them. This is so on brand for this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:33 AM
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Take a deep breath. I think you're replying to the wrong person. I have no problem with any of these arrangements. I couldn't possibly care less what kind of relationships consenting adults enter into, nor would I shame anyone in such relationships. I'm a live-and-let-live kind of guy. Having said that, you didn't answer my question. I didn't ask about labels, I asked about your view of what the material differences were between two types of relationships for which Society has specific (and diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:01 AM
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For the sake of argument... what is the difference between (1) a sugarbaby in a monogamous LTR with an unmarried sugardaddy that she's attracted to who underwrites her living expenses, and (2) a wife/girlfriend whose living expenses are paid by her husband/boyfriend? Many folks say that sugarbabies are prostitutes because of the money involved. I could probably argue either way depending on the specific relationship. But (1) and (2) don't seem materially different; without Mr Green's involvement…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:39 AM
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This is highly unusual, particularly for the times. I don't think I know or have met a single person in my life who had dates with 100 different people before the age of 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure 100 dates with 100 different people by the age of 22 qualifies as a lot, regardless of gender. I suspect that would be way over to the far right end of a normal distribution, even taking into account the effect of online dating. I had well over 100 dates by the age of 22... but that was with probably ten or so different girls, and pre-internet. I have no dog in this fight, I'm just clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:06 PM
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1/ In a relationship for 2+ years. For additional context, I'm 58, so likely one of the oldest folks on this sub. I mention this only because I've been told many times here that "I'm too old to understand younger men's struggles". Perhaps some truth to that. 2/ I'm no-pilled. If I were to cherry-pick a certain set of experiences from my life I could "prove" the predominance of any of the pills individually. If I were to cherry-pick a different set of experiences, I could "prove" the predominance…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:22 PM
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DEI I'm familiar with this but don't have any experience with it. I retired over a decade ago and spent the 10 years prior to that in a small partnership so we never gave it much thought. Maybe if I'd worked in a larger organization I'd know more about this. My guess is avoiding DEI is best accomplished by avoiding wage-slave jobs (and bosses, if possible). Can't think of a male hobby nowadays that hasn't been policed and sanitized by Karens. Maybe I don't have any experience with "male hobbies.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:06 AM
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Then it continued with a society that not only squashes men with direct policies that favors women, but whose culture works constantly to demoralize them and turn them submissive and compliant; men are not offered an ideal for themselves anymore, but their purpose lies in protecting women and helping women ascend in this new social order. Then couple all that with a bit of censorship, invasion of male spaces here and there and other things, and you get a completely demoralized set of people. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:38 PM
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Holy christ... it's all so basic. AI answer for the question, "Are all complaints observations?": "No, not all complaints are observations." Sir, you are the most brilliant person mankind has ever produced. That your wisdom has not been shared with the world at large is one of humanity's gravest, most costly errors. If you are not awarded Laureate status by the Nobel Committee in 2026 I will personally stage a protest outside of the Foundation's Stockholm, Sweden headquarters. Your towering inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 04:35 AM
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I never said there was zero overlap between an observation and a complaint. You built that strawman all by yourself. I just said they were different, which they are. They're not even synonymous. Likewise - to use your own analogies - basketball and baseball overlap in that they are both sports. But they are different sports. Just like softball and baseball are different sports. Just like my observations are not complaints, as I previously explained in detail. For future reference, "cope out" is …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:59 AM
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You will never concede on this issue, so it's pointless. Proper punctuation and spelling would aid in your arguments. For the third time... What is the provenance of your anger and despair? Where did things go so tragically wrong for you? How do you make it through each day? Enquiring minds... Just trying to get to the bottom of this before you get banned for the umpteenth time. I'm sure you understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:44 AM
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Please look up Ad Hominem Fallacy when you get a moment. It might strengthen your arguments going forward. I think I've struck a nerve, so again... What is the provenance of your anger and despair? Where did things go so tragically wrong for you? How do you make it through each day? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:49 AM
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if you disagree you're just being intentionally obtuse. Pot, meet kettle. Actually, all you're trying to do is recategorize an observation as a complaint. And you'll never be convinced otherwise. And that's ok. The world is indifferent. I don't know who Wonand is but hopefully he can spell and use proper grammar and punctuation. What is the provenance of your anger and despair? Where did things go so tragically wrong for you? How do you make it through each day? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 02:15 AM
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Baseball and softball are the same sport, huh? I'm quite confident not a single player of either sport would remotely agree with you here. Regardless, neither "observation" nor "complaint" is a synonym for the other. Because they have different meanings. It seems like it wasn't time well spent, try again It certainly worked out well for me. You're the suffering wage slave here. If you're employed, that is. I haven't worked in over a decade.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:30 AM
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You would never accept any explanation of the difference that didn't make you right. Which is fine. Be you boo boo. Well, absent the clinical depression if possible, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 01:03 AM
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If you want to keep complaining, it's ok by me. I don't think it accomplishes anything but, yes, by all means... "be you boo boo." Please go back to school No thanks. It no longer interests me. If you had bothered to go to my reddit profile you'd see that I already spent a lot of time in school. Unlike you, I'm not anonymous here. Would you like to compare CVs? We could do that if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:54 AM
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Lmao you even admitted you couldnt even clearly make a distinction between a complaint or an observation. This is pure invention. I was quite clear in my distinction. Feel free to re-read my comment if it will aid in your understanding. I get it, though - you're angry and miserable and feel the need to lash out at your imagined tormentors from your anonymous foxhole. Not a complaint, though. I like you just as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 12:21 AM
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From the dictionary: observation: a remark, statement, or comment based on something one has seen, heard, or noticed Example of an observation (verbatim): "It sure sounds like you've ruined yourself somehow and you're looking for someone other than yourself to blame. Regardless, the world is indifferent. Bitching and moaning about things on reddit is just yelling into the void. It engenders no solutions to your myriad woes. But to each their own." "To each their own," is a pretty strong signal t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:40 PM
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Observation =/= complaint. Do you need some help? My entire comment history on reddit is public. Find me some complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:04 PM
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Show me exactly where I complained about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:51 PM
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Harassed by users? I've been on reddit for almost nine years - completely non-anonymous - without a hint of harassment or doxing. I was curious to see what might have induced such reactions but, alas... you hide your post and comment history, which I suppose I find odd, but to each their own. One wonders how the overwhelming majority of the billions of people with various social media accounts who don't get harassed manage to avoid it. I find that being civil, even if you disagree with someone, …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:48 PM
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why are you in this sub then It's interesting in a macabre way. It's a look into a peculiar world I otherwise have no exposure to. go back to your cat photos sub I've never owned a cat nor visited a cat photo sub. But this is the sort of bizarre non-sequitur you see here. A+ amusement. No, I think I'll stay on this sub. I quite enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:36 PM
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So why bother with descriptions at all? You can just post photos. Whenever someone asks me about myself I just direct them to my reddit profile - it's all there. It's much easier. As an aside, you seem awfully concerned with your family members' heights. Is your son going to play in the NBA?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:22 PM
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There are too many people on the reddit who say things like this for all of them to be true. It's like Lake Wobegone here, where "all of the children are above average." I doubt it's coincidence that almost all of these folks make such claims anonymously. But, hey, it's amusing, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:48 PM
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It sure sounds like you've ruined yourself somehow and you're looking for someone other than yourself to blame. Regardless, the world is indifferent. Bitching and moaning about things on reddit is just yelling into the void. It engenders no solutions to your myriad woes. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:17 PM
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Oh, please elaborate. This should be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:57 AM
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I'm a 58-year old man and I don't know if I've ever been in a "mens only" space. Maybe I have and didn't realize it. It's never occurred to me to care whether or not women were in some particular "space." Further, I had no idea that women didn't want men to have male friends. This is news to me. I didn't even know that these issues existed. If women are trying to oppress me, they're doing a really poor job of it as I'm unaware of their efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:13 AM
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Yea thats the face of a man that would avoid me on the street. I lived in Tijuana, the most dangerous city in the world, for ten years. I now spend most of the year in Medellin, Colombia and part of the year in Petersburg, VA. You're a harmless small-time drug dealer - why would I avoid you on the street? And i woud never tell you what i do on the internet thats just too personal. You live in fear. Got it. Its mcdonalds..you got me. I know. Where do you work? I haven't worked in over a decade. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 03:36 AM
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Im pretty attractive irl. That's what most anonymous folks say. Personally, I don't trust self appraisals, regarding others or myself. It's easier just to post photos but most folks here are too scared to do that. So they LARP in anonymity like you. Me, I'm not anonymous here, never have been. No need to be. Anyone can click on my reddit profile and see exactly who I am - name, work bio, photos, real estate, music projects, etc... I'm an open book, for the most part. I have a fulltime job. I mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 02:50 AM
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Youd cross the street if you seen me irl If you're hideously ugly or deformed I'm confident there are cosmetic surgery options of which you can avail yourself. Most young adults consume manga and anime. Nope. About 25%. Mostly the hopeless 25%. https://www.epicwinapp.com/anime-popularity-statistics/ Yes i sell drugs. Of course you do. That tracks - a cash-based McJob. I'm sure you're a regular Proposition Joe. Well, before he was shot in the head. Its only soul crushin when i sell an 8 ball to y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:09 PM
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Lack of athlethcism. Lol. Did you forget you dont know me irl. C'mon man. It's obvious. You're unintentionally transparent. I drink sometimes. "I'm usually drunk asl ngl". You already outed yourself on this one. Try to keep up. Its called manga Oh, sorry, I don't distinguish between all of the various similar hobbies basement-dwelling nerds engage in. Dear Diary, today I learned... I have a full time job. Hold on a sec. This can't be. You write and spell like a small child. You gotta tell me. Wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 12:41 AM
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Padel is great. Given your lack of athleticism it might be a challenge for you. I'd suggest you try it but I realize you're quite busy drinking your sorrows away, reading comic books, avoiding like the plague any semblance of proper spelling or punctuation, living off government cheese, and cowering anonymously in fear on reddit. Your accomplishments are a beacon for us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:19 PM
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Why are you still goin? Because you amuse me. And thank you for that. Don't stop now. You're doing really well. Go do somethin productive. I just played four hours of padel. I'm pretty tired. I was trollin you old fuck. You're not very good at it. But keep at it... I'm sure you'll get better with practice. Helpful rhetorical note: once you resort to ad hominems, your argument falls apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:07 AM
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I doubt I have a history with ts as I have no idea what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 04:29 AM
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You’re assuming value only exists if it causes personal suffering, which isn’t how moral judgment operates. If there's no penalty attached to wrongdoing... there's no point to society's moral judgement. And in many, many cases - including the one discussed here - there is virtually no penalty. Trump has faced lost elections, nonstop institutional resistance, legal action, reputational damage, and extreme social polarization directly tied to judgments about his behavior regardless of whether hes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:14 PM
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Idk wtf your askin. It's not complicated and quite clear. Yes mr.sir stay away. No thanks, Mr. Sir. I think I'll ignore your wishes and just continue to do what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:06 PM
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Ah... "majority rules," does it? So... what prevents a majority in a country committing genocide against a minority, if that's what they desire to do? Majority rules, right? Stay away from minors? I think you're projecting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:04 PM
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Yes, and these moral guidelines are all relative between and among cultures. Vegetarians live (mostly) peacefully alongside omnivores. It's all... relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:59 PM
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So, in what way has Trump suffered from his "bad" behavior? I can't see any. If this "disagreement" shows judgement's power... in what way has he suffered from his misdeeds? There are countless people on Earth that you would judge as "bad" that are living perfectly contented lives. Your judgement, and that of others like you, has no impact on them whatsoever. Why? Because of this disagreement on what constitutes good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:47 PM
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It's held little value for the current President of the United States. People can't seem to agree whether this guy is one of the worst people on Earth or absolutely wonderful. Unless you're actually found guilty of a crime and put in prison, it doesn't seem to matter a whole lot either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:21 PM
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Hitler was mostly bad, sure. But not 100% bad. He loved his dogs. No. society knows what a bad person is. Apparently it doesn't. Contemplate Trump. A lot of folks think he's awful. Lots of folks love him. Lots of folks don't give it much thought. Society appears to be quite confused on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:18 PM
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It's worked out well for me. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:15 PM
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You're not a good person. You're not a bad person. You're a mixture of both, just like me and everyone else. Where you fall on the good/bad spectrum is entirely subjective depending on the person judging you. Ultimately, it holds no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:29 PM
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Say no. Move on. Rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:29 AM
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Why does a man need to marry for "constant access to sex"? Why not just be in a long-term relationship? And if it doesn't work out then... move on to another long-term relationship. Further, presumably a woman isn't going to put up with this marriage if the only thing the guy is interested in is sex - divorce isn't that complicated, or she can just dead-bedroom him. So, why would a guy bother following this marriage-guarantees-sex strategy if failure is ultimately baked into the cake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:32 PM
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I've never been to Colombia and never met a Colombian. That explains a bit, I suppose. Every single Latina girl I've ever met aside from one Peruvian "masajista" (a normal massage lol) from Madrid and one girl I came across in Mexico was either fluent or decent in English. This supports my original point. You share a common language - English - even if it isn't their first language. Most women in Latin America hardly speak any English at all. 98% of the attractive women on dating apps in Colombi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:27 PM
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I suspect that our definitions of attractive are different. I also assume you're fluent in Spanish, or at a minimum don't need to use a translation app. Otherwise, well, back to my first sentence. I've lived in Colombia for six years. I've got a pretty good handle on how dating, both online and offline, works here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:23 AM
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The vast majority of attractive women on dating apps that are willing to meet a tourist that doesn't speak their language are prostitutes. Not that there's anything wrong with that but let's call a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:27 AM
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Agreed. The power imbalance that many of these women wield - sexual capital - often leads to financial abuse of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:20 AM
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And the hits just keep on comin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:13 PM
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I find generous self-appraisals endlessly amusing. Thanks for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:55 PM
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My peak has been the last decade, and I'm 58. And things were pretty good prior to that, going back to my teens. But, yes, most people - men and women - look like hell past 40. Work, kids, stress, physical issues... they get out of shape and it's hard to reverse the entropy. It's a viscious cycle straight into the toilet bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:30 AM
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Yeah, but few tall guys are actually chads. Most, by definition, are just Average Joes that happen to be tall. That sub is full of guys that can't seem to find companions. I don't know why anyone can complain about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:19 AM
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I have bad news for you. The institutution of marriage is not going to keep whomever you marry from leaving you or staying and making your life hell. If you're unattractive and/or bad at sex, marriage is not a very good insurance policy that she'll stay and put up with you. You're looking for a short cut that doesn't exist and trying to play gotcha with women who simply don't care. If you feel like you're screwed, then you probably are. Arguing with folks on reddit certainly isn't going to help.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 04:02 PM
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You have a False Dilemma fallacy at work here. The options aren't marriage (total commitment) vs casual sex (zero commitment). You can be in a monogamous relationship without cohabitating, marrying, or planning to do either. I've been in many of them, ranging from several months to several years. Probably some high body count women in there... didn't know, ask or care so long as the sex was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:40 PM
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I always pay for dates because the amounts are so trivial as to be beneath contemplation. So it's a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:16 PM
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You don't have to be perfect, merely more attractive than most of the other options overall. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. In the US, specifically, the (statistically) average man is a right-leaning, overweight, renting wage slave with no education past high school, who has never traveled outside the country. Of course the average woman doesn't stack up much better but such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:51 PM
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The balance sought after is comfort/trust vs sameness/boring. I've found the best sex to be that had between 2 months and 2-3 years into a relationship. Prior to a couple of months, as you point out, lack of trust often inhibits sexual adventurousness. But after a few years, that same sense of sexual adventure tends to wane - you've likely done everything possible many times over. And variety is the spice of life. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:45 PM
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I reduce the assumptions redditors make about me by... not being anonymous. Anyone can click on my reddit profile and see exactly who I am. If they don't like my opinions, lifestyle, etc... it's no skin off my back. I'd find living in hiding, in fear, too much trouble. It seems stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:29 PM
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I talk about people I know, etc on reddit from time to time... I just don't name them. It's never occured to me to seek out advice regarding anything remotely important on reddit. The anonymity of the other users, for one, renders it all pretty useless I'd think. I still don't see an issue in your case if you put a little thought into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:30 PM
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Out of curiosity... what are you, specifically, afraid of regarding anonymity? Are you in witness protection, avoiding a bench warrant, an enemy of the state, a whistleblower, etc? Billions of people have public social media accounts on facebook, instagram, tiktok, etc, and 99%+ never face any material issue regarding their lack of anonymity. I've had a public profile here on reddit for almost nine years... zero issues. You could take every post/comment I've ever made here and post it in the New…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:32 PM
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Any man that tries to fix a woman's problems deserves exactly what he gets. Why a man would accept this "emotional labor" is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:45 AM
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Have more options. Don't marry. Don't try to fix other men's problems - everyone's on their own in the realm of relationships. It's a recipe for happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:03 AM
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People only spend money on things if there's something in it for them. I fund a dog refuge in Mexico. It costs me about $70k a year. I do it because I love dogs, and helping dogs makes me feel useful; it provides me with enormous psychic income. There is no such thing as altruism. Everything - even "charity" - involves getting something - even if it's intangible - for the money spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:28 PM
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I think guys brought flowers and chocolates on a date about 60 years ago. Regardless, only very miserable people complain about the opposite sex, as a whole, on reddit. Women defeated you before you even left your house. What will you do? That's a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:27 PM
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I tend to date the 30+ bimbo/e-girl types because that's what I'm sexually attracted to. As long as they're reasonably nice and not nutso, I'm good - I genuinely like them. I've had several multi-year relationships with these types with no material issues. If I want to discuss the capital asset pricing model, I've got other folks for doing so. I don't think your partner has to fulfill every social need you might have. Of course, I'm not marrying or cohabitating with anyone, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 05:36 PM
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Let me simplify: You're yelling at the sky - and it will get you nowhere. Plenty of others don't give a shit. Keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:43 PM
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Welp, then I guess you're screwed. Bummer. The demographic I prefer is growing. So no complaints here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:37 PM
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I was born in Royal Oak but I haven't been back to Michigan in over 30 years. Yes, anything bad can happen anywhere to anyone. All you can do is play the odds and diversify.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 11:55 PM
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Rust belt? You think the entire Midwest is just done shithole? No, there are many nice parts of the Midwest. I was born in Michigan and lived in Chicago for a few years. But that doesn't change the fact that most of the areas that have shown serious decline - and there aren't that many in percentage terms - are in the Midwest. The 2010 United States foreclosure crisis was not limited to what you call the rust belt and affected the entire country. I recall quite well. My business was recapitalizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:58 PM
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How do you know your neighborhood isn’t going to be a slum in 20 years, let alone 10 years? You don't but... average residential real estate prices in the US have increased at greater than the rate of overall inflation for many decades now, so we know your circumstances (I'm guessing rust belt) were quite unusual. (The Anecdotal Fallacy.) I wouldn't use your personal experience as instruction for others to follow. While you’re doing yard work all Saturday I don't do any yard work, home maintenan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:43 PM
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So, if you're a single person at 30 years of age are you better off in 30 years having paid off a 30-year mortgage and owning your home outright, or owning no home and paying a monthly rent that's been inflating for 30 years? If you've rented for 30 years you have nothing at the end of that 30 years to show for it. That seems like a pretty good reason not to rent for 30 years if you can avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:37 PM
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Sex. I play tennis and padel. You have to have humans to play with to enjoy the activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:26 PM
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I get along with most women quite well. I have no sexual interest in 98% of them. The last decade has been the best decade for dating of my life. But that's anecdotal, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 06:14 PM
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Well, there you go. Success. I imagine you're quite pleased with this progress. I, myself, have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:08 AM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:04 AM
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I don't know who "they" are but I have zero issues with 304s as long as they're very attractive, disease-free, sexually compatible, and otherwise generally nice women. I don't need a woman to do my laundry, clean my house, cook, or do anything else for me that she doesn't want to do. I hire people to do that stuff. I have no interest whatsoever in marriage, cohabitation, or kids, so she'll have ample time/space - and encouragement from me - to pursue all of her hopes and dreams (so long as those…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:31 AM
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Of course not. Everyone makes mistakes. And often folks don't know what sort of things irritate the other person until they happen. So, for example, I'm a stickler for punctuality. But, I'm also reasonable - sometimes shit happens. So, if I'm dating a woman and she's late a couple of times, I'll say, "You gotta be on time or this isn't going to work." If it keeps happening after that without an exceptionally reason, then it's time to move on. We have different priorities. No big deal. Plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:15 AM
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Right. Ok. Well... please elaborate regarding the fruits of your efforts. How has your life or the life of men, generally, improved as a result of your/their "complaining loudly online"? Seems like there's plenty of bitching and whining going on, so how are things moving in that "more favorable direction" for you? Considering the effort being expended I'd think there would be considerable results to report. Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:06 AM
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otherwise you would be facing a sexless drought and much more negative consequences of giving up. Then perhaps you should be more flexible regarding what tradeoffs you can accept. If you don't have options, you probably shouldn't be making many demands. If you're unhappy with your job and don't have a lot of other job offers you're just going to have to keep eating shit until you do. Or be unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:36 AM
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I didn't realize that I've been conditioned to tolerate anything in a relationship, much less been "gaslit" about it. I'm not the jealous type so I don't really give a shit whether my girlfriend has male friends or posts photos on instagram or whathaveyou. I just don't care. And if I'm particularly unhappy with something she's doing, I just dump her and move on. And she's free to do the same with me. But I'm certainly not going to police her activities, nor should she bother trying to police min…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:59 PM
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Everyone has to deal with these "disagreeable statistics" and yet... most people manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:54 PM
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Pointing out that simps are the problem doesnt mean someone is mad. It just means they're pointing out that simps are the problem. I don't know. When you describe women as "self centered, entitled and parasitic," you sound pretty mad to me. Anyhow, just ignore the men ("simps") and women ("self centered, entitled and parasitic") you don't like. Problem solved. I don't like Taylor Swift or most popular music much. I'm more of a post-punk guy, myself, which is a very small niche. But there's enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:49 PM
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A certain amount, I agree. But that amount falls along a spectrum as wide as an ocean, with people like Donald Trump at one end and Ted Kaczynski - for better or worse - at the other. Probably better to be closer to Ted's end - without the mental illness, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:55 PM
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I've denied my programming in this regard. I don't care at all about body count. I only care about diseases and babies. And I don't worry about the latter because I got a vasectomy over 25 years ago. Of course, I'm not marrying anyone, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:50 PM
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Most men don't have big egos, they have fragile egos. Which is why so many seek out approval from Society, which forms a lot of their thinking regarding women. Of course, plenty of women suffer the same dilemma. Once you start living your life for approval in the eyes of others, you're well and truly fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:32 PM
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I don't. You're responding to the wrong person.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 09:19 PM
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I don't get that impression - although I don't spend much time on that sub - although clearly those folks exist. With no mention of money and an inability to actually see the people involved... who knows. But there are separate subs for the "sugar lifestyle"/quasi-prostitution set. I tried to link a typical female post over there but the mods deleted the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 08:45 PM
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Perhaps in your specific case, but more generally that's a false equivalence. If you go over to r/agegap you'll find plenty of young women (and not promoting themselves) pining over specific guys in their thirties and above. But 70s... that's a (young) market that you can round down to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:18 PM
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There’s plenty of reasons to financially support your wife that aren’t sexual Clearly. Marriage (and especially kids) is where sex - or at least enjoyable sex - goes to die, after all. But all of those other obligations don't just disappear - they tend to multiply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:09 PM
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Well, I mean... I don't think Hugh Hefner's dick was the primary attraction to the twenty-somethings living with him when he was in his 70s. C'mon now.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:57 PM
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Ah, ok, so this is just some "feeling" that has no basis in anything objective or specifically identifiable. That's fair enough - to each their own. Fortunately a lot of women don't share your feelings - to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:50 PM
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What is it about mature, healthy, attractive adults engaging in non-marital romantic relationships that is ick-inducing? I thought the concern about age gaps was with women in their twenties - has the narrative changed? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:39 PM
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There is no shortage of attractive women even well into their 30s. In absolute terms, yes; in percentage terms, there's not a lot. But that's subjective, of course. Interestingly, though... you're implicitly acknowledging that there aren't many attractive women in their forties and beyond, which I'd agree with. Of course, this applies to men as well. So I guess most folks who marry just need to accept that eventually they'll end up with an unattractive spouse, as age eventually wins out. men age…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 06:29 PM
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As he gets older, the cohort of women his own age that are still sexually attractive to him gets smaller. So, as he enters his forties and fifties, for example, he continues to date fitness-conscious women principally in their thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:35 PM
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Nothing's changed. He continues to date because women want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:16 PM
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It’s prostitution with more steps, which to each their own.. if the women like the money and the men like the sex, it is what it is. Perhaps, but this has nothing to do with age gap issues. Plenty of similar-age relationships/marriages where one person largely supports the other could be described the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:08 PM
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Based only the facts you've presented, he's not a loser because he was in a relationship with a much younger woman for 20 years - that's a pretty good run, all else equal. He's a loser - or at least galactically stupid - because he didn't have a prenup. That she left him at 70... he lucked out there. Probably time to move on anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:00 PM
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Sometimes... because he has so many dating options - and no desire for kids or cohabitation - that there's no benefit to him getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:57 PM
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Or just for convenience. I don't think "desire" plays much of a role in porn even when it's between partners. There are too many logistics involved to conjure up much romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:25 AM
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A woman in content on a man's onlyfans page is being paid (unless she's his girlfriend). A man on a woman's onlyfans page is not paying her. She's asked him to be there; he might be getting paid some nominal amount. I've made content with various women for their onlyfans accounts. I've neither paid nor been paid. But if I was to open my own account (there would be no point in doing so), I'd have to pay the women, unless it was a girlfriend. That's pretty much how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:19 PM
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A woman in content on a man's onlyfans page is being paid (unless she's his girlfriend). A man on a woman's onlyfans page is not paying her. She's asked him to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:14 PM
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I am an extremely unique, talented and charming individual and absolutely not replacable. This induced a chuckle. Stuart Smalley called. He wants his daily affirmation back.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 06:15 PM
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Not at all; in fact, I hope to grow old by myself, if that's defined as not living with another person. I've been in relationships as long as ten years but I've never met anyone I wanted to spend my life or cohabitate with. I assume I'll have friends as I get older, just as I do now, and that I'll have girlfriends as well, just as I do now. But living with a woman or anyone else? Not gonna happen. I don't see any benefit to this whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/25 12:32 AM
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I quite like sex, yes. But I'll pass on the service, support, status (?), and kids. These have no value to me whatsoever. I would be miserable in a marriage. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 04:16 PM
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I have plenty of male friends that I can hang out with individually or in a group. What do we talk about? Politics, finance, current events, pop culture (movies/music), issues with family and other friends, sports, etc etc etc... the list is endless. I thought this was the norm, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:26 AM
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Most people - men and women - age very poorly. 80% of the time the cause is simply a lack of fitness. No time for fitness due to work and kids, or just pure laziness (most often the latter). 52% of US adults are diabetic or pre-diabetic; 70% are overweight (including obese). So it's no surprise most folks look horrible by 40. Having said that... I've dated a few women in their early-40s that looked amazing, better than 95% of their peers twenty years younger (for my tastes, that is). But they sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:25 PM
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Where is the risk in a relationship with a woman if I'm not married, cohabitate, nor have children with her? I feel like there's virtually no risk to me whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 02:20 AM
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What, as a man, is a good reason (as in good for me) to choose a single mother over her child-free equivalent? Here's a good reason: She's busy. She has her own life. She won't spend all of her time obsessing about me and what I'm doing. I have no interest in marriage or cohabitating so dating a woman with a kid(s) is fine with me because it means she's got her own separate life to attend to. Just as I do. I don't want to share everything with the woman I'm dating, and it's nice to find someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 05:35 PM
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I've never asked about you and your wife's relationship... yet you keep bringing it up. If you're good, you shouldn't feel the need to convince me of anything. Contentment is its own reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:51 PM
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I didn't say "relationships." I'm specifically talking about long-term marriages. The average couple married more than 10 years has sex less than three times a month. Again, that's the average. (And I'm not taking into account self-report bias or duty sex.) That's verging on dead to me. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:28 PM
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If you make the time to date each other, keep things fun and spicy in the bedroom, and communicate, this is literally a non-issue. Apparently even that doesn't work in most cases. I'm not married so I couldn't care less. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:25 PM
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It has little to do with groups. Most people just get tired of having sex with the same person for years on end. They get bored. See r/DeadBedrooms and r/Marriage And then there's science: https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/science-behind-hard-sleep-person-forever/950751
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:25 PM
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You forgot Group 4: Guys who have been married for many years, with kids, living with a virtually dead bedroom. Groups 1-3 often end up in 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:36 AM
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A lot of these younger men settling down with a baddie are in for quite the surprise when they’re stuck in marriage and she lets herself go. It's like the investment products warning: Past performance is not indicative of future results. Solution: Don't get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 11:39 PM
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It sounds like you've been settling for quite some time now. Just with different women as opposed to one. Yeah, the Midwest is rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:47 PM
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Welp, such is life. It ain't gonna be pretty. (No pun intended.) Seems like you've accepted it, so that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:25 PM
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I might argue I’m on the more attractive scale in most age groups because I’m physically fit. You're as attractive as the women you date on a consistent basis. Once women hit 30 they don't really care about your age. Your looks, fitness, etc... yes. But your chronological age, not so much. I suspect if you were as attractive and youthful looking as you think, you'd find attractive single women in their thirties to date. The 40+ age group is rough everywhere. There just aren't that many women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:14 PM
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These numbers are even much higher in my region and age group. That sounds depressing. The small number of lean/fit women that exist in my age group are almost always already taken. Ah, ok, so you're attractive "for your age," in which you're comparing yourself to a bunch of older fat guys, who are scavenging for these older single overweight women. That makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:37 PM
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I've had people here describe pair bonding as lifetime romantic love that can only be achieved if the woman hasn't slept with another guy. So perhaps the issue is a definitional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:05 PM
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Every Chad I ever knew ended up settling down with some baba mama after years of fucking around. I think this happens a lot... but then is also inevitably followed by the guy (or woman) screwing around at some point and/or having a dead bedroom with this "pair bonded" baby mama. Most "chads" are reduced to an everyman eventually, and marriage and kids accelerate this transformation. I think pair bonding is mostly baloney that folks just want to believe. Not unlike religion. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:54 PM
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"Consistently" is the operative word he used, which you neglected to mention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:29 PM
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If you're attractive, why do you have to resort to fucking all of these fat girls? Didn't you say recently that your girlfriend weighed 200 lbs? If that's your thing, then more power to you, but I'd think you'd have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:27 PM
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Uh, that's completely nuts. I defend all sorts of things I have no interest in. I find pickleball terminally silly. But despite being a tennis/padel player, I'll defend people's right to play and enjoy it. I support drug legalization despite having zero interest in drugs myself. I could go on and on and on. So could most people... well, people who aren't trying to win an argument at any cost using baseless assumptions, that is. So tell me, where did it all go wrong with you. Are you tragically u…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:49 PM
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Less than zero flexing, just responding to your unfounded claim. You brought the issue up, not me. After 58 years on Earth and almost 9 non-anonymous years on reddit you're the first person to conjure up these fantastical beliefs about me. Which is fine, of couse, because with all evidence to the contrary, it's hard to take seriously the opinions of a single anonymous self-described loser. But keep at it. Despite your continual use of ad hominem fallacies, your misplaced determination is infecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 11:28 PM
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Never had any interest in marriage or kids. I never understood the attraction. If that's "growing up"... I'll take a pass. I'm actually 58 now. But I'm managing ok. I bet I'm fitter than 90% of 30-year olds. Of course, most young folks like yourself are unfit blobs now, so there's that. Yes, I imagine old women settling with old men is quite common, but not sure what that has to do with me. My girlfriend hasn't reached middle age yet. Yes the retarded shit you said made me angry Take a deep brea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 10:05 PM
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Never said or insinuated I was Chad. I don't engage in subjective self-appraisals. I only judge results. Also, unlike you, I'm not anonymous here. Anyone can click on my reddit profile and see who I am. I take my girlfriend out to dinner, on vacations, etc... if that's "paying for pussy" in your book, then guilty as charged. You seem really angry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 09:32 PM
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There are many men who can have sex "at will" but still solicit prostitutes. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Maybe you're just very young. Anyhow, none of this really matters. You're miserable and a self-described loser so unfortunately nothing's going to improve your life. Keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:33 PM
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You have a very different definition of Chad from almost everyone else: According to Incel Wiki, "A chad is someone who can elicit near universal positive female sexual attention at will. A chad tends to be between an '8' to a '10' on the decile scale, has an extremely high income and/or an extreme amount of social status. A sexually active chad has sex with a wide variety of women. Chad is not necessarily a male model, but all male models are chads."
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:26 PM
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So you're less of a loser than other losers. That sounds like some consolation. Heartiest congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:09 PM
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Obviously. Women universally thought these guys were handsome at the time of the scandals. So I'm not sure what your point is here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 08:07 PM
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They aren't the same, however... Heidi Fleiss had a black book full of Chads who paid for pussy all the time, including Charlie Sheen, Billy Idol, Johnny Depp, Mario Andretti, Robert Evans, etc etc etc. Recall Hugh Grant and Divine Brown. I'm not sure they're as different as you'd like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:38 PM
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I'm not sure someone who acknowledges this: I don’t feel like any woman was actually attracted to me. ... should be labeling others as losers, regardless of the reason. Seems a bit glass houses, stones. Nevertheless, regarding prostitutes (not my cup of tea, but to each their own), imagine a guy is really happy with McDonalds (ie, prostitutes) while you are only happy with Smith & Wollensky (ie, sex with a woman who loves you), but you can't afford Smith & Wollensky, so you're never going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:31 PM
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And that's what the previous post implied. Actually, it's not. Because "most" and "all" have two very different meanings, just as 51% and 100% are two completely different numbers. As someone a decade into my own marriage, HARD disagree. And this sort of defeatist thinking should not be normalized. Everything is better when you marry someone who is basically your best friend but you also want to have sex with each other, and everything is better whe you still go on dates and keep up that youthfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 10:07 PM
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This is blackpilled genetic determinism, and false. Actually, the black pill would say "all" (as opposed to most) of attraction is determined by genes. I'm a no-piller. I see evidence and counterfactuals of all of the pills. Aside from entertainment, I don't really care about the pills. No two guys are equal "in every single way" except income. This is not a realistic scenario, and therefore is not instructive or useful in any real world setting. It's called a hypothetical, or a thought experime…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:32 PM
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I didn't read the OP, I was just scanning the comments and saw yours. I have no opinion on this Jack person. Focusing on "income" as a means of attracting woman is a stupid strategy for guys who struggle to elicit attraction because it is not a means of eliciting attraction. I agree. "Focusing" on anything in particular primarily as a means to attract women is probably a waste of time. Most (but not all) of attraction is based on genetic factors anyway - looks, personality, etc. Having said all …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:35 PM
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Income does not attract women. Income alone, no. But... Having an overall life plan with goals and the means to achieve them does. Often, income is correlated with this^^. That is, income often serves as a proxy for a guy having his shit together, having a plan, and being able to succeed at something. Not always, of course. But often. It's like using someone's education as a signal regarding knowledge or intelligence. It's imperfect but there's a correlation. That's why so many companies rely on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:44 PM
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Being a parent gives you rewards money could never buy. Perhaps, but, it's also like being addicted to drugs - you're helpless and lose all sense of objectivity where your kids are concerned. Everyone thinks their kids are great, and clearly a lot of them aren't. All of these crime shows talk to the parents of the killers and they pretty much all say the same thing: "I know he did something horrible, but we still love him." Oki doki. Jeffrey Dahmer's parents still loved him right up until he got…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:18 PM
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He laughed and flat-out said, "They're all bitches, man." Maybe he just isn't interested in marriage and/or kids. I have no interest in either but my view isn't "they're all bitches" - I take things on a case-by-case basis. I have no complaints about "modern dating," whatever that is. I think part of the problem was identified by Don Draper: "People tell us who they are all the time. But we don't listen because we want them to be who we want them to be." I think a lot of men and women have some …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:13 PM
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She's 45, which isn't that old. I've dated women that age who were hotter than 90% of 25-year olds. (They were gym rats, got cosmetic surgery, etc.) I suspect you won't feel the same in 10 years, although I guess there is some minority of men out there who are actually attracted to older women who other men find sexually undesirable. If that's the case, kudos to you; you're a member of a very small club. There are two problems with sexual attraction and LTRs. One is the fundamental problem of lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:26 PM
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It's not a lie early on. It becomes a lie later, after the business arrangement phase of the marriage takes hold. After that, nothing is sexy anymore. Too much familiarity is unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:29 AM
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Don't get married. Problem solved. Zen state achieved, Grasshopper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:15 AM
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Agreed. There's little less attractive than a helpless, whiney manchild. Likewise, there's little less attractive than your kids' mommy, doing all of her mommy stuff. The marriage/kids arrangement is designed to make the other party look like the least sexy being on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:20 PM
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Marriage is where sex goes to die (in most cases). Most of the activities of marriage - chores, managing kids, making meals, schedules, financing the whole operation, etc - are galactically unsexy for both parents. What starts out as romance generally morphs into a business arrangement over time; two people who are otherwise friendly, getting older, fatter, and more stressed out, just trying to keep the boat from sinking. The whole arrangement seems designed to engender mutual dissatisfaction. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:16 PM
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Super hot and very sexual. Genuinely nice and friendly with a positive outlook on life. Not religious. Has her own life. Is attracted to me. That's pretty much it. I don't really care much about her education, work, family or hobbies. She should enjoy normal social activities like dinner, parties, karaoke, bowling and whatnot. So, not a shut-in. I have no idea what "healthily feminine" means. Importantly, however, I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation or kids. So she's not going to be a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 09:56 PM
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You're entitled to nothing. Life ain't fair. The longer this concept eludes you, the more miserable you'll be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 12:08 AM
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I quote myself: "Self-appraisals are worthless"; there's too much bias at work. That goes for men and women, and goes far beyond appearances. If someone wants to know how attractive they are it's all quite simple: check the results. One's attractiveness is determined by the attractiveness of the people s/he's able to attract for dates/sex/relationships over long periods of time. Results are self explanatory. The folks who make it more complicated than this are trying to rationalize bad results. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:04 AM
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Most of the folks on this sub still believe that Disneyfied Lifetime Romantic Love is a reasonable relationship goal despite all evidence to the contrary. They don't realize that it's far easier to satisfy the different relationship needs/desires that one has from different people. They don't all have to be provided from the same "soulmate" caricature. You can be deeply intimate with someone you never cohabitate with, or even only see from time to time. People are wired differently. They don't a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:55 AM
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This: “if you don’t put all these expectations on someone, then they won’t disappoint you” Does not equal this: the basis of your post comes from hurt and unhealed wounds Happiness = Results - Expectations If you can reduce your Expectations regarding certain parts of a relationship (while maximizing other parts that are more important to you), you're going to achieve more Happiness. Coming from a place of "hurt and unhealed wounds"? I didn't pick that up at all. She seems introspective, pragmat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:40 AM
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Ardor fades. Sex becomes less exciting as time passes no matter how hot your partner is. And if you have good options, you generally excercise them. Because you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:02 PM
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I think you're conflating "sex" with an inability to obtain things, generally, that you want out of life. So, if someone wants to earn a lot of money but can't manage to do so, people may see them as losers, as they're incapable of getting what they want (forgetting about sex altogether). The same could apply to a lot of things, including sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:06 PM
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We weren’t talking about women in their thirties? Yes and I shifted the discussion from women in their 20s to women in their 30s. So, again, now that these women are in their 30s... the men mentioned are or are not "weird and creepy"? We're still talking about a pretty big age gap, after all. So now that these women aren't "young and stupid"... are they "weird and creepy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 09:00 PM
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The girlfriends of the men mentioned in my original comment were successful women in their thirties when the relationships began. You're setting the bar awfully low for "young and stupid." By your own definition... I suspect you, yourself, are young and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:46 PM
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Is it possible that those characteristics that lead to a man being sexless are also characteristics that many people - not just women - find unattractive in general? That is, it has nothing to do with sex, per se; it's these other characteristics that tend to be present along with sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:41 PM
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Isn't the younger person also weird and creepy for wanting to date the older person? Why is this a one-way street? It takes two to tango, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:28 PM
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This is the first I'm hearing of this. Are you sure it's not that a sexless heterosexual man tends to display negative characteristics which are causal to being sexless?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:22 PM
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Forget about interviews. I'm just talking about the age gap aspect. Still weird and creepy? I suspect this is an extreme outlier view. Which is ok, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:18 PM
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There are plenty of successful, respected gay men who don't have any experience with women. I think something like 10% of men are asexual, some of whom I suspect are successful and respected. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:47 AM
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Brad Pitt is 27 years older than his current girlfriend. Tom Cruise is 26 years older than his current girlfriend. Alec Baldwin, 26 years. I could go on and on. Are these guys weird and creepy? Or is there an age for the younger party - 26? - at which the weird-and-creepy factor disappears regardless of the age gap? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:41 AM
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I have seen anecdotal evidence that support each of the three main pills. And situations that violate each pill's tenets. Which is why I'm no-pilled. People are different. Situations are different. People change. Their environments change. These arguments about which pill is "right" seem like religious debates heavy on emotional fervor, pretzel logic, and confirmation bias. Which is what makes this sub so amusing. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:38 PM
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I have three female friends on my block (in the US) who are 75+. We routinely just hang out, shoot the shit, and drink. They're way beyond menopause and, as you'd expect, I have less than zero interest in them sexually. Explain to me how we're not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:13 AM
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I'm sure there are some men out there who put no effort, look slobby/lack awareness of their appearance, but there a small minority of men, I think. I think most men put "little", as opposed to no, effort into their looks. 70% of adult men in the US are overweight, which is just for starters. I think it's a small minority of men who put "considerable" effort into their looks. Now some of this latter group might think they're putting in a lot of effort... but clearly they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:26 PM
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loolsmaxxing Is this like lulzmaxxing? I'm all for maximizing lulz.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:20 PM
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I'm a no-piller and don't really understand all of the debate on which pill is "right." I'm 58 and done more dating than probably 95% of the folks on this sub. And I've seen multiples of anecdotal incidents that support each of the pills (and, by definition, refute the other pills). I think the black pill stuff is the most off the wall but... but... I can remember situations that, in hindsight, would definitely be categorized as "black pill confirmed." The problem is there are grains of truth in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:52 PM
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There are two fundamental challenges to marriage. One, sexual attraction fades with time. Two, people change. And neither party knows how, or the degree to which, these things will occur during their marriage. So, it's a crap shoot, ex-ante. Marriage, in my view, seems to be mostly about having kids because, as you point out, two-parent cohabitation seems to be the best arrangement for this on average. Some folks manage to (a) maintain a certain sexual attraction to their partner over the long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:57 PM
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"Beta fucks" strategy I hadn't heard this one before. Ha! This involves pumping and dumping single moms This could be promising if these moms are super hot not overly annoying. Otherwise... waste of time. and using escorts. I guess this can work if your bar for the quality of sex you find acceptable is sufficiently low. Otherwise... waste of time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:18 AM
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"Special place"... that's amusing. You're a victim of socio-religious brainwashing. But in that you're far from alone. Hey, the good news is that 100 years ago the overwhelming majority of people thought that a woman who had engaged in pre-marital sex was unfit for marriage (!). So, we're making progress. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:08 PM
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Wouldn't care much about either so long as she doesn't get a disease or get pregnant... and understands that it opens the door for me to screw around as well, if I so desire. I wouldn't encourage a girlfriend to fuck around, of course, but do I really care deeply? Nope. It's not like we're going to live together or get married. Related, I play tennis with lots of different partners. No one has a problem with this. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:24 PM
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The "customer" is the knucklehead you answer to here. Not an "employer," no. But a distinction with a subtle difference. I ran a PE/merchant banking firm for a decade. We only had "customers" and we dictated the terms but... we still had to deal with these knuckleheads and make them happy. Sure, far better than having a boss, but... still folks to answer to. I've found retirement more pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:07 AM
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You define the terms of your contract to whom? Another person at another company, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:54 AM
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Avoiding cohabitation has definitely been part and parcel of my peace and happiness. I want married folks to be happy. I just don't see it very often. It's like they've been tricked by the Marriage Industrial Complex (including Hollywood) into believing that a certain lifestyle will bring them happiness. If divorce rates and marriage surveys are any indication, however, it's often a society-induced mirage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:51 AM
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1099 contractor still answers to some knucklehead. But, yeah, it's better than being a cubicle drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:40 AM
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Yes, but... the times they are a changin'. Almost 30% of adults in the US are childfree. In just thirty years childfree folks may be in the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:37 AM
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Be the employer. Start your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:28 AM
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Post ten. It's about as easy as posting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:43 PM
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Another reason to be highly skeptical of marriage. Even Chad's wife is highly likely to "beta buxx" him into a dead bedroom eventually. Oh the humanity! Life-long serial monogamy keeps looking better and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:47 PM
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I don't know why people bother describing themselves. Just post a photo. A billion people do it every day on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:11 PM
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I don't even contemplate "a woman's prime" in a general sense because it's such an individual thing. Sure, lots of women's prime is 20-25, but I've dated women in their 30s and early-40s who were hotter than 95% of women in their 20s, and hotter than they themselves were at that (younger) age because they didn't start going to the gym, eating healthy, and getting cosmetic surgery until their 30s. The only "woman's prime" of relevance is that individual woman in question. Averages schmaverages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:07 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:01 PM
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98.45% of women will accept you just for being 6ft before considering other factor Right. "Before considering other factors" being the operative phrase. Once obesity gets factored in, height is pretty much thrown out the window. So even if being obese reduces his options being tall more than offsets it No. You are incorrectly interpreting the data, as the "other factors" and their extent are not stipulated in the research. Yes, being tall will more than offset a certain amount of "unfit" - it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:00 PM
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He's 350 lbs for christ's sake. I don't think a few inches of height offsets extreme obesity in the looks department. There's something else going here that has nothing to do with appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:50 PM
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I'm insufficiently narcissistic to believe that my individual actions are having any meaningful impact on the larger collective. But, by all means, let me know when your best seller is published. [Just an fyi, "millennia" is plural; apologies for being pedantic.]
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:16 PM
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I tried to articulate the futility of what you're doing. But watching people engage in futile pursuits can be quite amusing. Now, push that rock up the hill once again Sisyphus. You're almost there!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:02 PM
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What you propose is to take no accountability as a collective. The notion of a "collective" where dating is concerned is beyond absurd. Do what you preach and go play elsewhere if i annoy you You don't annoy me. You amuse me. Keep at it. You're doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:42 PM
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I don't know why you or anyone else cares one iota what other folks are doing with respect to their dating/relationship lives. If someone's "making it hard for everyone" - regardless of the manner in which they're doing it - that's "everyone's" problem, not theirs. The moment people start complaining about what other folks are doing to affect their own dating lives, that's the same moment these people stop respecting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:17 PM
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Nerve struck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 10:44 PM
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X, Tiktok, and Instagram are also generally anonymous. I bet between these three there are at least a half billion accounts that are not anonymous (in that they have at least photos or videos of the user). That's a lot of people. But, yes, a lot of these accounts are also anonymous. I'd rather not have people I generally get along with get salty because I don't hold all their views. I'd also rather not have my employer, any future prospective employers, or anyone else to have that data with my a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:16 PM
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There's no need to bother trying to impress anyone. You're either impressive or you aren't. Why you single out women is your own personal mystery. I can assure you, however, that no one who comments 100x in a day on reddit is impressive to any sentient being; to the contrary, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:28 AM
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There's no reason to bother trying to impress a woman if you're jobless, neurodivergent, and unattractive. So, no, you don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:07 AM
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Millions and millions of people hold these various views. I don't think most of them are ashamed or fearful holding them. Many of them discuss them publicly on social media such as X, facebook, tiktok, youtube, spotify, etc. So, what are you, personally, scared of? What on Earth could a "passport bro" do to you? Give me an example of something that could reasonably happen to you if folks knew of one or more of your views here. I actually agree with you on a lot of these issues and would have zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:04 PM
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You can't hold her to the same standard' because you are not the standard setter. Sure I can. If I have more options that she has, I can holder to an even higher standard. This is all quite simple: If I'm not happy with the relationship - the details are irrelevant - then she's out. Why shouldn't she act in the same manner? If she finds my needs to be a burden then she should hit the bricks. If either party isn't happy, s/he should exit stage left.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:22 PM
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And to answer the OP's original question: To be desirable to this mindset, you have to become a non needy, high-value utility. Be interesting, be emotionally rock-solid, be amazing in bed (for her benefit), ask for nothing, and have your own entire life so you never burden her. You're not a man, you're a service provider for a one person economy. And you have to be okay with being discarded the second your performance dips. I'm actually quite ok with this, except the "ask for nothing" part. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:04 PM
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Ok, so you're afraid to discuss these issues on the internet absent the cloak of anonymity. I'm curious as to what views you hold that you feel are so controversial that your employer, friends, etc would be offended. What, specifically, concerns you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:53 PM
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You're afraid to discuss controversial topics absent the cloak of anonymity? Are you an enemy of the state? Is this sub considered controversial? Baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:32 AM
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I think most men can't cheat. Most men fall into one of these categories: (1) too unattractive, (2) insufficient time/flexibility, or (3) petrified of getting caught and the ramifications thereof. Now, if you remove those three constraints, yes, most men would cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:34 PM
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Sex with an unattractive woman, kids, splitting bills? Holy christ that sounds awful. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:29 PM
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I'm here for the lulz... and this sub produces plenty of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:14 PM
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If you can avoid disease and unwanted pregnancy - which is quite easy if you have a functioning brain - what are the negative consequences of sex? It's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:11 PM
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Let’s not act like “not being able to afford child care” is the same as being a sugar baby Agreed. They are not the same thing. But that doesn't mean that some women who aren't able to afford child care aren't also, for all intents and purposes, sugar babies. Both things can be true at the same time. if you don’t make enough money to be a sugar daddy, maybe don’t comment about how all these women are in a sugar baby relationship. It’s embarrassing. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. But s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:27 PM
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I wouldn't say I "corrected" you, but merely modified your comment. Some marriages, after all, are indistinguishable from sugar daddy relationships. I don't have time to correct every post on reddit - I leave that to the Top 1% commenters. Anyhow, I'm not always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:10 PM
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I don't work here. A common issue with redditors is they don't use qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:47 PM
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This phenomenon is mostly seen in suburbia and among wealthy urban folks. In only about 30% of marriages is the woman not working at all these days. So some fraction of that number isn't enormous in percentage terms but still fairly common. The larger point is that the presence of a marriage certificate doesn't define the nature of a relationship; the actions within that relationship do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:19 PM
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The two are often, although not always, one and the same. The mere presence of a marriage certificate doesn't change the economic/emotional reality of a relationship. Many marriages are just sugar daddy arrangements with extra steps (and kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:53 PM
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We're in agreement. Most people are delusional. "Simple" =/= "Easy." The concept that results determine your league is quite simple... but not at all easy for many people to accept. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:39 AM
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Self-ratings are worthless due to (the aptly-named) "self-rating bias." Your league is determined by the attractiveness of the women (or men) you've dated on your desired terms (LTR, casual, etc) on a regular basis over an extended period of time. Only results matter. If you're not fulfilling your objectives, you're aiming too high. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:29 AM
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Not that there's anything wrong with therapy, but why do I need to go? I'm quite happy with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:15 PM
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I'm questioning the charm involved in encounters with the toothless unhoused. But, hey, different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:17 PM
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I agree, I don't think all SAHMs are sugar babies. Although certainly many are. I think marriages often end up in a position where the husband is involved in this exchange but is unaware of it until deep into the marriage. But back to Brad Pitt... would his girlfriend stay with him if she had to pay her own way? I seriously doubt she could maintain that lifestyle on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:13 PM
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Should any relationship where the woman isn't working, or her lifestyle is being heavily subsidized, be considered "sugaring"... including a lot of marriages? Being unemployed for 6 months is one of the leading predictors of divorce, after all. I find it curious that a non-marital relationship that has many of the same earmarks as marriage (particularly regarding finances) is labeled as "sugaring" while that similar marriage is not, while functionally they may be the same thing. Is Brad Pitt a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:14 PM
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You're obese, homeless, spend your days smoking weed and gaming, and have a penchant for prostitutes. All of which is ok by me, if that's your bag; to each their own. But I'm unaware of any world in which this is considered even remotely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:53 AM
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We've seen the same with women's bodies, big boobs ; big ass and narrow waist have always been attracitve but social media made it to a point it wasn't human anymore. I'm totally guilty of this. Ha! But I wonder if it's social media or just that so many more women today are very fit and have had surgeries than in the past. Yes, it's still a small percentage of the total (and, yes, the average woman is much fatter today), but in absolute numbers there are so many more super hot women today than i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:00 AM
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Define "losing in the long run." I've been quite satisfied with my dating life over the long run (about four decades thus far). If I stopped dating tomorrow I'd consider it all worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:06 PM
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If she's not putting in much effort, she doesn't like you very much. And vice versa. You move on. People who actually like each other put in some effort. I thought this was common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:33 PM
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I'm extraordinarily shallow when it comes to a romantic relationship; that is, one involving sex. On the other hand, where friendship is concerned, I'm not the least bit shallow. The difference is sex. I'm not attracted to women who aren't extremely attractive by my standards. And I don't complain when women feel the same way. I can relate. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:21 PM
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I want a relationship. I just don't want marriage, kids, or cohabitation. I don't buy into the traditional notion that in order to be in a fulfilling long-term relationship you need to be married, living with someone, or share kids with them. Plenty of women today are happy to be in a relationship with a guy in which they're close friends, have sex, and share most parts - but not all - of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:18 PM
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To me personally... Friendship and connection are very important. Sex with someone I get along with is very important. But "romantic love" (including marriage/cohabitation) - that is, a deep connection with someone you're in a sexual relationship with - holds no value to me. There was a time when it did and those were good times. But that ship has sailed. And I'm as happy as I've ever been. Of course, I can't speak for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:26 PM
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It's not so much a conundrum as a curiosity. Anyhow, I suppose my two questions are: (1) What has changed over the last 10 or so years to make height such a big issue for Gen Z? It can't just be that social media tells people what they're supposed to be attracted to. I don't think people are that stupid; that is, they're attracted to what they're attracted to regardless of what other people tell them. Although maybe that's just been my experience. (2) Why is this largely a US/EU phenomenon? Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:20 PM
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At 58 I'm older than 95%+ of redditors (I think). I'm also 5'7. My account is over eight years old. Prior to joining reddit it had never occurred to me that I was considered lesser in any aspect of my life, much less "almost every" aspect. I still don't see it despite so many folks here trying to convince me otherwise. Having said that, if I were 5'4 maybe I'd view things differently. Also, I've lived (mostly) in Latin America for over a decade. Folks here are both shorter and don't seem to care…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:44 AM
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Boomers are actually 60+. Xers are in their 40s and 50s. Just to be pedantic. But I digress. I know nothing about Meetup or anything else remotely like that. I haven't been on a dating app in many years. I've met most of my dates over the last ten years either directly or indirectly through tennis, padel, dog rescue, or mutual friends. I tell folks that padel is one of the most social sports in the world. Like pickleball - but more difficult - it's designed for socializing, as are the clubs. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:04 PM
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I'm not. Plenty of folks aren't but, yes, the overwhelming majority are. The question is: why? A large majority of these same redditors have social media accounts on which they are not anonymous (instagram/tiktok/facebook/etc). Why do they become so shy on reddit? I can only think of fear, shame, and/or the desire to be uncivil without repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:19 AM
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Ok, so why the anonymity? Fear of one's views being discovered, shame regarding such views, or the (bizarre) desire to be uncivil without repercussions? Or possibly all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:08 AM
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I don't disagree with you here but it raises a question: How much "strength" does anyone have who is only willing to discuss/debate issues anonymously? That's a rhetorical question. It's not like folks here are enemies of the State, whistleblowers, or in witness protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:00 AM
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An assessment should be based on results. And in terms of results I feel like I've been unfathomably fortunate. So I have nothing to complain about. Edit: misspelling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:15 AM
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Most men don’t like surgically enhanced women. Tell that to the porn industry and the vast majority of instagram thots/models. And: https://www.joe.co.uk/fitness-health/this-is-how-many-men-prefer-fake-breasts-to-the-real-thing-22318 . <<< Not that this is the last word, of course; it's just a data point. That’s why there are a significantly lot more 20 year old porn stars than 40 year old porn stars Two things. One, apparently searches for MILF sex are among the top 2 searches for porn. (https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:18 PM
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The average 20 year old is not much overweight. All of the reported stats suggest otherwise. Are you a man or a woman. I suspect you are a woman. You suspect incorrectly. The photo on my reddit profile, a ten-second perusal of my post history, or clicking on the link on my profile makes this obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:55 PM
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I'm going to disagree with that last sentence. The average 20-year old woman in the US is overweight. (Over 1/3 of women in their twenties are obese.) A super fit, attractive, surgically-enhanced 40-year old woman old is far more attractive than the average (chubby) 20-year old, albeit largely because it's such a weak comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:22 AM
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I like laughing. And this sub provides ample material for laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:03 PM
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Pass. I think things are pretty good as they are. Learn to love it. There will be no Union of Men. These are socialist-relationship fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:47 PM
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I've dated and made content with several only fans "creators" (in the parlance). But admittedly that's probably unusual. I love sex (with the right partner, of course) but having to hold the camera, stop and start, etc... making content can be tedious.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:21 PM
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I'm not bitter or hateful towards women. I have no interest in a wife or prostitutes. I'm not sure where things went wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 04:51 AM
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https://iol.co.za/lifestyle/love-sex/relationships/2024-09-10-the-most-and-least-attractive-male-hobbies-according-to-women/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 05:01 AM
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I've known men who were quite happy just paying for sex with prostitutes. They just view it as a fun, physical hobby. I wish I were one of them, frankly. Unfortunately, I find sex with condoms to be lame, and 99% of prostitutes just want you gone ASAP, so the quality of that sex is generally pretty poor. But I think using escorts is a perfectly good alternative for some guys (and a bad one for others). Just depends on the wiring. Everyone's a bit different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:55 AM
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This sounds like the real world where people interact face-to-face, as opposed to the online echo chamber where a lot of redditors spend their lives. You're confusing folks here. Shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:57 PM
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Exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:42 PM
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I'm ok with this as long as neither party is anonymous. If you're going to make a public claim about someone in this context, you should do it under your own name. Anonymity - absent being a corporate whistleblower or in witness protection (or similar) - is one of the scourges of the internet. It just allows LARPers, frauds, liars, bitter exes, etc to run rampant. See: Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:22 PM
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That sub is one of my favorites. The height of unintentional comedy. Not entirely unlike this one, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:19 PM
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Prior to my current girlfriend, who I met at a dog rescue cafe, I can't even remember the last time I approached a complete stranger about dating. The vast majority of women I've dated over the last decade have been friends/acquaintances of friends and acquaintances - although not in my immediate friend group - and we typically met through padel, tennis, or at parties or other social events.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:30 AM
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I've dated some women with OF accounts. They were only modestly successful, not famous at all. I made content with them sometimes. I don't care at all. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:08 AM
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I had a few girlfriends (in the US) in my 20s, one was multi-year, but it was otherwise sporadic. I didn't really feel in control of the dating process. I lived a bit of a broke musician lifestyle until I was 25, then broke grad school student for a couple of years, then became fairly successful. I got a lot more interest from more attractive women starting in my early-30s, and a lot more friends trying to set me up with these women. And it just increased over time. I retired in my mid-40s, got …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:42 PM
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Hmmm... I was business partners with a Vanderbilt/Whitney heir. He had a pretty large trust fund and his parents were quite wealthy. Also, Gloria Vanderbilt was quite wealthy post-1970. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:20 AM
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I like women with a lot of experience. They tend to be far better at sex. I play tennis and padel at a reasonably high level. I don't want to play with beginners. It's no fun. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:39 PM
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I care far more about great sex than love. I've been in love (romantic love, that is) three times for a total of about 15 years. It's certainly enjoyable, but ephemeral. Now as I'm older I've found that I just don't need it anymore; it's no longer important to my happiness. But great sex... yeah, this improves my life meaningfully. So, zero interest in inexperienced sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:33 PM
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The only way is... don't be anonymous. I don't bother explaining things about myself on reddit (when someone raises the issue) because anyone can click on the links on my reddit profile and see exactly who I am. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:41 AM
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Actually, it's in 10-year increments. And since the data don't change much in any of the age categories... clearly it doesn't matter. I have no idea what your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:13 PM
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I'm not following what, specifically, your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:28 PM
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No thanks. I'm not that invested in this. But be my guest. Probably a google search away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:02 PM
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I find 95% of women - many quite nice and generically attractive - insufficiently attractive for sex, so I can't complain about women's standards. Since we're using statistics, over 70% of men in the US are overweight (and over half of that group are obese), so it's not like the "average man" is offering much in the looks department. But, of course, the same can be said of the average woman, so there's that. It's probably best to ignore the stats where (somewhat) subjective things like attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:44 PM
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Why would men need to stop complaining and whining ever? Because in this particular case it's a complete waste of time. It accomplishes nothing. So, personally, I don't see the point. You want to post a negative yelp review about a restaurant? Ok, maybe they'll read it and try to improve. But these big picture, generalized complaints about women (or men, for that matter) accomplish zippo so far as I can tell. It's just shouting into the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:16 PM
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I simply don't comment if I'm not right. Said without a hint of irony. Just fantastic. Classic reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:50 PM
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You want me to name the people that I know, and their circumstances, that would be exceptions to your rule? Sounds time consuming. Sorry, but I'm just not that invested in the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:29 PM
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All The vast majority of relationships are transactional to some extent. But that "to some extent" is a very wide spectrum. And the nature of the "transactional" element isn't always money. It can be time, attention, labor, etc etc. Just my two cents, of course. I guess I'm a stickler for qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:47 PM
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I don't press those buttons That part was a joke, Dr Humourless. What I'm saying is right or wrong regardless of who I am and what I do. Indeed. I find cognitive distortion amusing. https://www.therapynowsf.com/blog/always-being-right-gearing-up-for-intellectual-battle
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:06 PM
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If a woman (or man) can make money from OF/online content and transition into something with more long-term sustainability... great. (I think a lot of women get stuck in this kind of work - because it can be pretty easy money - which is less great.) I've known a number of OF/online "models" (to use the term of art), and dated a few. I've been in a fair amount of OF content with various women. I've lived in Colombia for over half the year for about six years now. Through a friend, years ago I met…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:02 PM
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Oh, my bet is that the only time you find someone "in particular's" opinion to be irrelevant is when it is diametrically opposed to your own. Otherwise you almost break your finger racing to upvote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:35 PM
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they despise women that were ran through by multiple men. Don't care at all. In fact, having more experience (up to a point, I suppose) is a good thing in my book. I play tennis and padel competitively. I'd prefer not to play with or teach beginners. Same goes for sex. It's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual, contrary to what the religious wackos would have us believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:14 PM
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Men absolutely love women in makeup and plastic surgery. Generally true, I think. I'm not wild about makeup, personally, but I do love it when women invest in enhancements. I admire that kind of dedication to looking great (or, "a particular way" at least). Women get plastic surgery for their own enjoyment. Exactly. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:55 PM
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True. I imagine the CDC's bar for "healthy" is simply "not obviously unhealthy." Which is fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:44 PM
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As am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:09 PM
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Pickleball and walking are exercises. Compared to doing nothing, yes. If distance running is at the far end of one end of the "exercise" spectrum then I suppose something has to be at the far end of the other end. Makes me wonder what you consider "overweight". Well, the average person, for sure. We know this from the research, which is voluminous. Probably at least two-thirds of adults. It's not that surprising. Most people are pretty inactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:54 PM
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My experience has been that one has little or nothing to do with the other. But I imagine our respective life experiences are so dissimilar as to be virtually unrecognizable by the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:37 PM
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Those are serious exercises. Agree to disagree. Like golf, I'd classify these as "activities," not exercise. Maybe if you're 75 years old they'd qualify. But that's just me. Live in any major city and it's likely well over 50%. Not a chance. I've lived in major cities for most of my life - DC, NYC, Chicago, London, San Diego, Tijuana, Medellin. Overweight people who don't exercise as far as the eye can see. And 350 minutes of exercise per week? Pretty rare. You're right that the overweight/obesi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:31 PM
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What if a man your age enjoys being your platonic friend (and has other platonic friendships with women/men your age) but has sexual relationships with women in, say, their 30s? That is, he's sexually attracted to younger women but it has no bearing on his (male or female) friendships. How does this reflect on his intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:13 PM
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I think people's bodies are very different in this regard. I'm 57. I don't really contemplate what I eat, never have. I have a see-food diet - I see food and I eat it. But I'm extremely fit, even for someone half my age. I never set foot in a gym - so no weights - but I play competitive padel and tennis about 10 hours per week (and one daily 5-minute plank), which is all cardio. It's exhausting, particularly in the heat, humidity and high altitude where I'm generally playing. I imagine if I wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:06 PM
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The CDC recommends about 150 minutes of exercise a week, but only about 25% of Americans do this. (This is actually the minimum. To look like a model, I recommend going an hour almost every day.) I'm with you. I think 350 minutes/week (that's almost an hour a day for six days) is necessary to be really fit. And this doesn't include walking or pickleball, etc. It has to be serious exercise. I suspect well below 10% of folks 30+ do this. Which results in what we see around us...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:53 PM
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I mean to be fair that's what is going to happen when you are a man raised in a society that tells you that you are worthless and your life has no meaning if you're not providing for women. We live in the same world (I'm pretty sure), and I've never felt this way. But... if society did try to tell me this... I would laugh in its face. And then have a sandwich. Society's opinion of me has no value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:45 PM
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Sub rules? Nope, it's been quite a while. I didn't realize we were fighting. [Speaking of sub rules, I see your account is just two weeks old. So, do tell, what were your prior usernames that have been suspended/banned? Enquiring minds...] Here's a personal reddit rule everyone can live by: If you're unhappy with someone, stop replying. Problem solved. addressing the point in the original post. Ok, here you go: The internet has enabled men to "listen in" on female spaces, and men don't like what…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:08 PM
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Not upset at all. On the contrary, I find you amusing. Of course, you've got a lot of company in that department here on reddit. I don't message people here, nor accept DMs. I have my discussions in public, out in the open. This desire for secrecy within a completely generic conversation... I just can't wrap my head around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:12 PM
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You're not an enemy of the state, in witness protection, or a whistle blower. You're just some Joe Blow that is terrified of attaching his name to his actual beliefs and opinions. I'm not painting you as emasculated or fearful. You've painted yourself that way. I'm only confirming it. If you can't see this is self-evident, I don't know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:01 PM
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Social security number, passport number, birth date, bank account numbers... revealing these would, indeed, be imprudent; they are the most basic precautions you can take to avoid identity theft. But a name, workplace, and address... totally harmless. Hundreds of millions of folks have this information on linkedin alone. So, home addresses: Avenida La Canada 1491, Real Del Mar, Rosarito, Baja California, Mexico 22565 Circular 4, #73-31, #702, Medellin, Colombia 050031 124 N Jefferson Street, Pet…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:50 PM
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I'm saying you live in a constant state of fear and that must be quite emasculating. Can't take you seriously. Quoted for irony. Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:31 PM
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I've been on reddit - as myself, non-anonymous - for over eight years. Offended all manner of folks, I'd imagine... with zero issues. In fact, I can't even think of how someone would go about doxxing me, but I welcome anyone to give it a shot. You do realize that billions of people have facebook, instagram, tiktok, X, etc accounts in which they're just... themselves. Sharing photos, opinions, etc. Not hiding from anyone. And they're unconcerned... despite the internet being "full of psychos." It…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:16 PM
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I strive for more gentle honesty. Then why are you anonymous here? I'm not. Seems unnecessary if you're successful with this "gentle honesty."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:16 PM
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It's possible... but there's time, effort, and risk involved. She may never be good at sex, no matter how much teaching takes place. I'd rather be with women who are already at the finish line.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:05 PM
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Dishonesty - lying in all of its various degrees and forms - is the social and political lubricant of the world. If world leaders, for example, started telling each other exactly what they thought of each other with no filter, the world would blow up in about 5 minutes. I'm quite certain that you don't tell people exactly what you think of them all the time... unless you can hide anonymously behind your keyboard, that is. Your frustration with dishonesty sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:15 PM
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Self respecting men... No True Scotsman fallacy. I play tennis and padel and don't want to play with beginners (or even intermediate players, frankly). Why do I want to have sex with an inexperienced woman? Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual. A high value man... I find the pill lexicon amusing. People with options don't even contemplate such terms. They're too busy living. They can't be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:00 PM
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What does true crime have that fictional crime dramas don’t? What does a history book have that historical fiction doesn't? What do non-fiction books have that works of fiction don't? Some people simply prefer entertainment related to events/incidences that actually happened. I have no opinion on the matter - I'm just reporting. I think it’s immoral, why would I watch it? That's great. To each their own. But... perhaps you might want to actually watch some true crime before ranting and raving ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:08 PM
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Yes, yes, so you keep on saying...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:58 PM
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I refuse to believe you're this dumb. Look up the word "ironic." Then apply it to your original post in light of the fact that you clearly know precious little about true crime. If you still can't figure it out, I'll explain it to you like you're 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:57 PM
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You clearly know nothing about true crime. Quoted for truth. The irony of his original post is staggering. This is bizarre stuff, even by this sub's standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:44 AM
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Can’t you get the same entertainment value from fictional crime dramas, though? Sure, similar. Just as you can go to 50 different restaurants for similar culinary value. I'm not sure what your point is. Do you have a source supporting your assertion that the families of victims are usually involved? What the...? Have you never actually seen a true crime show? Interviews with family and friends of the victim(s) are a staple of these shows. You just wrote a whole screed on the immorality of the ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:42 AM
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That's an "audition video", not a "tape"... which you would know if your story was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:36 AM
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So you're afraid that people will find out what you truly believe. I can't imagine. So you live your life like 1950s East Germans... the Stasi is always listening. That must be a difficult way to live. Major bummer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:35 PM
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I'm not anonymous. Never have been. Zero issues. Anyone can click on my reddit profile and see exactly who I am. You can take any and every post or comment I've ever made on reddit and post it in the NYT with my name and photo. You do realize that literally billions of people on this planet use various social media with their real names and photos without any issues whatsoever, yes? There's nothing special about reddit. It's only "legit crazy" if you live in a constant state of fear. My guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:07 PM
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Ah, ok, then this statement should be amended to: "Warm approach works best but you I have maybe 1-2 opportunities in life to do that past a certain age." That clears up any confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:15 PM
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Warm approach works best but you have maybe 1-2 opportunities in life to do that past a certain age. I'm 57. Over the last ten years I've probably had about a dozen "relationships/situationships" lasting from a couple of months to 2+ years. I met only one of these women on a dating app. The rest I met at social events (held by friends), introduced by friends, dog rescue events, and playing tennis and padel. If you have a good social network, the opportunities are ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:28 PM
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"Tapes"? Really? Was this forty years ago? Did you have a big bushy mustache? I guess if you hang out on reddit long enough, you'll see pretty much every different bizarre form of LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:02 PM
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The trauma of other human beings is not your valid entertainment. I enjoy true crime. I'm a male. I don't think the entertainment comes from seeing the "trauma of other human beings." On the contrary, most of the entertainment value comes from the manner in which law enforcement goes out about capturing the perpetrators; probably 80%+ of the typical true crime book/show/podcast is spent on this aspect of the crime(s). And it's often pretty fascinating. Related, it's interesting that friends and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:53 PM
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For you, a lot. You're not very clever. You asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:27 AM
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I imagine it's not easy to navigate through life when there is such a large gulf between the exhalted manner in which you perceive yourself and the sad reality of how others perceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:22 AM
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Oh, I'd say folks' posts and comments here provide pretty good insights into their psyches. You, for example, are quite transparent. As am I. The biggest difference between us being that you're anonymous because you're afraid to actually attach your name to your beliefs. Which speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:15 AM
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I have a strong suspicion that your hurdle for "successful" is about 3cm off the floor. Your repeated posts on this same topic reek of "the lady doth protest too much, methinks."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:02 AM
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But you brought the issue up... not me. Imagine a world where every affirmative claim is accepted without proof. That would be a world full of sheep indeed. You can't have it both ways. Thus, absent proof of your own unsolicited claim... you're the sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:57 AM
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And I'm supposed to care about this "self improving" because...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:49 AM
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But you're a sheep, right? An anonymous, subservient, rent-paying wage-slave? If you fancy yourself a shepherd, by all means make your case. I'm happy to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:46 AM
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Perhaps. Plenty of guys don't chase women. Because they've realized they couldn't attract them even if they did. "I could be wealthy, not work, travel the world, etc if I wanted to. But it's just too much trouble. It's just better being poor."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:37 AM
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I don't know what I'm supposed to be "committing" to. You should try things you enjoy doing, not because they're part of some "ABCmaxxing improvement" protocol. If you enjoy it, do it. If the gym is boring... you do something else that you actually enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:39 AM
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I don't know what these "conditions" are so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:28 AM
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Not quite. Rising stock prices is a hedge against inflation. It allows companies to run at a profit without passing all costs onto the consumer. This is pure nonsense. Rising stock prices are a hedge against inflation for those that invest in companies capable of increasing the prices of the products/services they sell. Rising stock prices do NOT "allow companies to run at a profit without passing all costs onto the consumer." Rising stock prices do, however, allow some companies to operate at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:33 PM
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Seeing as this account is one day old... what were some of your previous accounts that have been banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:21 PM
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So play sports. I haven't been inside a gym in... decades, I'm thinking. Sports can be fun; the gym is (mostly) boring, I'm guessing. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:11 PM
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"Fake" is one descriptor. The way I'd put it is that life has many elements of a game. I don't play video games but I spend a lot of time playing tennis and padel, so I appreciate the competitive nature of games. I don't play much chess, but I'd argue life and chess have a lot in common. You're trying to achieve certain objectives. Achieving those objectives requires strategy and action. Not all of those actions are going to be things you want to do. Occasionally you've got to be a bit Machiavel…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 06:42 PM
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You've put women and sex on a pedestal, likely the result of religious and/or societal indoctrination. Sex is not some magical purity ritual; it's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. Many folks are perfectly happy viewing it essentially as a hobby, where it doesn't matter if the other person doesn't "actually give a fuck" about them. I play tennis and padel. I don't need the folks I play with to have deep feelings for me to enjoy playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:56 PM
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Oh, c'mon now. You were doing really well there, prancing around up on your high horse. Don't stop now. Keep at it - I know you can do better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 05:17 PM
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Well, yeah, I guess it's difficult as a woman to fully relate to men where romantic/sex issues are concerned. And vice versa. So, I don't really blame them. I suppose I find these cross-misconceptions between the sexes a bit amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:14 AM
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In the Sea of Bizarre Commentary that comprises this sub... this is a rare, interesting observation. Hardly anyone will read it, and I'm not sure what it means in practical terms, but... it is interesting. Thanks for sharing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:23 PM
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I'm sure I have photos of them somewhere Superb. I bring this up in the context of your belief that: Affirmative claims require evidence We're in agreement here. So, you made an affirmative claim, I questioned it, you got upset and continue to refuse to provide the evidence that you, yourself, admit should accompany your affirmative claim. [First it was, "Who keeps photos?" Then it was, "Well, yes I have them but don't know where they are". Ok.] Of course, you have a lot of company where this so…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 03:45 PM
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Do you think people don’t use science and/or time to fill in the gaps of things that aren’t currently explainable? I think some people make educated guesses based on science, yes. And others make up fairy tales. And everything in between. I’m willing to bet you prefer to live in certain fairy-tale driven societies over other ones. You most likely live like a Christian instead of a relative moralist. Sure, I satisfice; that is, I take the least bad solution. I don't live much like a christian, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:15 PM
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lol imagine keeping a photo diary of hookups, you people are so Goddamn weird You don't have photos of you and your girlfriend, friends, nor former girlfriends and friends? That is truly "goddamn weird," as you put it. Most peoples' phones have thousands of such photos. You freaks. Right-wing psycho divorced dads with a grudge against three-quarters of the human race. You freaks. Sorry but, uh... I'm not right wing, nor a dad. I did, however, have a very amicable divorce many years back. I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:35 PM
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You just keep on believing that. Happy to be proven wrong. I patiently await your extensive photo diary proving the veracity of your claim, which you can post here. Also, aren’t you freaks always saying that looks don’t matter and you can’t get laid with any woman? I'd certainly never suggest anything of the sort, so the provenance of your question is a mystery. Related, I'm not sure who "you freaks" are? I'm not aware of being a member of any freakish group here on reddit or otherwise. Also, I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 08:04 PM
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If these women are average/unattractive - that is, they basically look like you - this isn't that surprising. But very attractive women with lots of options rarely approach men because they don't have to, and they even more rarely approach average looking chubbies like yourself. They may, however, signal that they're open to an attractive man approaching them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 01:16 PM
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That's hard to believe. I'd need to see a poll on this. I realize this sub is rife with delusion but... that's a bit much. But, hey, what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:56 PM
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Assuming that a woman can tolerate awful sex with a man who hunches away on her body in a frenzied sweat for even a year is a bridge too far. I don't think this is the norm. But I also don't think it's that uncommon. Especially once we get into the realm of high incomes/high status. I mean, I know it's an outlier but... how many years into their marriage would Melania have applied your description above to her and Donald's sex life? I doubt it was too far. He hasn't been a dashing handsome man f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:54 PM
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This looks like a picture of success. I fail to see what's wrong with casual sex involving consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:44 PM
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The only way a marriage retains longevity is if both partners are either mutually attracted, or both are asexual. I think both are fairly rare. I think a lot (most?) of marriages begin with mutual attraction (or at least some attraction). But after kids, friendship familiarity, a couple of decades pass, declining libidos, the stresses of everyday life, etc... I think that sexual attraction is very rarely maintained. I don't care if you're Mr and Mrs America. "Familiarity breeds contempt," or in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:40 PM
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Ask yourself why every major society (prior to contacting one another) had a similar set of rules for controlling men and women. All of these societies independently conjured up fairy tales, gods, witchcraft and other forms of magical thinking to explain the world around them. It seems to be something the overwhelming majority of humans are just wired to do. One would have to have an unparalleled level of egocentricity to think they know better than millennia’s of people. I guess I'll never have…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:14 PM
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It's everyone's responsibility. I actually agree, but a system that needs new "everyones" (re: kids) to take care of the current everyones probably has some flaws. The new everyones didn't approve of the deal, after all - they're born and forced into it. Of course, I guess they can always self-delete if they're particularly unhappy, so there's that. You never worked a day in your life?! Yeah, I worked until my mid-40s. Not particularly hard, mind you, but... I did do what others refer to as "wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 05:55 PM
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Because you amuse me. I ponder what brand of lead-based paint you were exposed to as a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:34 AM
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I don't care one way or the other. I'm indifferent. By the way, I find your petty downvotes quite amusing. I'm not sure why you bother - I don't - but, hey, keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:22 AM
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Everyone has to work to live. Most, yes, but you said specifically it's these kids' obligation to take care of the elderly. That's working for someone else to live. Marx would be pleased, comrade. Anyhow, I haven't worked in over a decade... and I'm part of "everyone," so clearly not "everyone" has to work to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:21 AM
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What is your end goal? I've reached my end goal. I'm just trying to extend my current circumstances for as long as possible. I don't answer to anyone - outside of the law - so I don't really care what others think or do. I am indifferent to how men, women, society, etc are taxed or deal with each other. What I don't do is sit around complaining about shit. I live life like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:16 AM
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1, 2 and 3... generally true. Your personal experience doesn't remove the stats Indeed but... one's personal experience is the only thing that matter's to one's life. The "stats" are irrelevant if they don't apply to you. The stats say... most people are overweight, most people are unattractive, old people get fat and bald, most people don't make much money, etc etc etc. Why would anyone want to be a part of these statistical groups...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:10 AM
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So... the reason we need to produce new humans - "kids" - is to turn them into slaves for society so that they will take care of the old humans, even if it's against these hew humans' will. And these kids didn't even ask to be born in the first place. That is pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:57 AM
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There's no coercion. Sure there is. You want to tax single women at a higher rate, thus coercing them to marry and have kids. You want more tax breaks for married folks with kids, thus placing a higher tax burden on single, childless folks, thus coercing them to marry and have kids. Regardless of how one feels about how tax dollars are spent, the very foundation of tax policy is coercion. Then your opinion is irrelevant to the topic. Since the topic is society and I'm a member of society... my v…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 01:38 AM
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This looks suspiciously like a "hail mary plan for men who can't attract a woman without resorting to coercion" being dressed up as a "I'm just worried about society" plan. Basically, coercion disguised as virtue. Personally, I would eliminate tax breaks for married couples and children. I have no interest in subsidizing either group. I'm perfectly ok with humanity winding down to zero over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 06:04 PM
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or just not at all? Most of my friends are either partnered up or don't care that they're not. So it's mostly not at all. If men complain about dating here, they do it almost exclusively among close friends they trust, I don't really see the point in complaining about it. I doubt it helps much. Spaces IRL are more difficult and spaces online are significantly easier. I've found the opposite to be true. But that's just me. most younger men and boys find it simply not worth it to try so hard for n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:02 PM
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No, I don't hear much about dating woes. I don't know anything about this silencing. But these are folks in their 40s/50s, not young people. I get the impression most young people are fiddling with their phones, gaming, or spending most of their time on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:15 PM
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Funny, I was thinking, well at least he got a couple of things right. Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:16 AM
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I think people are just wired differently in this regard. Some folks have (or think they have) this "true love" you're talking about and are still miserable. Others just don't need it to lead a contented life. I've probably seen every different mix of this. Which is why I'm reluctant to generalize on such issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:35 PM
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I mostly agree with this. But it engenders a question: why get married if the crux of it is long conversations? "Everything else in marriage is transitory" is a nod to romantic love; that is, an acknowledgement that it doesn't last. I have long conversations with a lot of folks - men, women, family, friends, etc. I have no desire to marry, or cohabitate with, any of them; the long conversations can continue without any such formal arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:01 PM
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Activities and friend groups, mostly. I've met prior girlfriends through introductions from friends, parties, dog rescue events, tennis and padel groups/clubs, language exchanges, etc etc. If anything, I think it's gotten easier over time. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:13 PM
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The physical spaces exist, but the social interactions that happen inside them are stifled and strangled, so the social space inside the physical location is basically dead. I guess I haven't noticed any of this. It all seems pretty much the same to me. Of course, I've lived in Latin America for many years now. Maybe things are different in the US/Europe, but I hear nothing of this from my friends who live in these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:09 PM
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What are examples of these "3rd spaces"? I've got a pretty active social life and I can't think of a single type of place I would go to meet people 15 years ago that doesn't exist today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:47 AM
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If you can handle the commute - or work from home - that can work really well. It is amazing, however - I'm sure you see this with folks you know - how many people can earn a lot of (after-tax) money and piss most of it away through lifestyle expenses. When I used to work I knew a lot of folks (not all of them, thankfully) who made upwards of a half million a year and it mostly just disappeared.... half to Uncle Sam, rent/mortage(s), private school, cars, clubs, socializing, vacations, and... *p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:06 PM
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Very true... although I'd point out that a lot of those folks live in HCoL areas and the majority of that income does a disappearing act via taxes and spending. If you're making $200K in Manhattan, for example, you're fine if you're single. But add in a wife and kid and you could be under water pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:52 PM
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I suspect my standard for 'beautiful' is considerably higher than yours. My life couldn't be a lot better, realistically, since you brought it up. I'm not the one commenting here anonymously (are you scared or ashamed of something?) like you, after all. Child.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:32 PM
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Reddit, and the internet generally, is full of LARPing liars. Surely you know this. If you make no exceptional claims, then no one will ask you to prove them. But as Carl Sagan liked to say (the Sagan Standard), "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You're right, you don't have anything to prove to a stranger. But that stranger also should not believe you in the absence of such proof. You yourself would likely apply the exact same standard. My view is: never make any remotely ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:04 PM
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What is a terp?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:52 PM
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Help me with the math here: We’ve been together since I was 17 and he was 18 that’s 6 years of figuring it out. I appreciate the concern but I’m 18 and he’s 20 I’m not expecting him to propose rn lol. If you've been together for 6 years and you started dating when you were 17 and 18, respectively... then you're 23 and 24 now. Is this some kind of new math?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:45 PM
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you’ll have an easier time in life I doubt this is realistically possible. My life is a cakewalk. And undeservedly so, if I'm being honest. not everything people do is for you File under: Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:01 AM
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Agree completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:38 AM
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False equivalence. When you include everything appearance-related - beauty products, hair care, hair styling, manicures, pedicures, clothes, shoes, etc etc - the average woman spends several times what the average man spends, and she spends a lot more time on grooming as well (again, on average). All of which is fine, by the way. If I suggest that most people who buy Rolls Royces are highly status conscious I doubt you're going to retort, "Well, most people drive cars."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:37 AM
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women who have been sexualized since before puberty seem to be happier and relieved when they get older. After all, if you spent your entire adulthood getting creeped on by uggos and oldies, wouldn’t you be relieved when that type of attention dies down? Perhaps but, if so, why do so many of these same women bother wearing make-up, flattering clothing, etc when they're younger? Even a fairly attractive young woman can look quite plain if she just doesn't bother dolling/styling herself up at all.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:07 PM
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The never ending mistake of trying to compare men and women equally on the same thing strikes again. Men and women are different. Men do not operate the same as women do in the same situation. Indeed. Like the never-ending mistake of trying to compare different people equally on the same thing. People are different. People don't operate the same as other people in the same situations. Because that's literally the definition of failure when the entire goal is to form lasting relationships which p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 04:51 AM
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There are always people better than you that she can transactionally choose to love more than you Perhaps but... by this logic there are always women better than her that a man can transactionally choose to desire more than her. It cuts both ways. instilling these counterproductive notions in her mind only sets you up for inevitable failure. Why is a relationship ending considered a "failure"? It could be viewed as a total success. To quote Roger Sterling, "When god closes a door, he opens a dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:43 PM
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Humans are meant to have romantic love, end of story. If you're defining "romantic love" as some sort of deep lifelong bond including sexual attraction that lasts essentially a lifetime, I think you're incorrect. This version of "romantic love" is largely (albeit not entirely) a fiction created by the Church, the Hollywood Industrial Complex, Society, etc. It's incredibly rare, although many humans do regrettably buy into this myth. Now, if you mean deep lifelong friendships (whether male or fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:14 AM
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I have zero interest in (1) cohabitating with someone, (2) sharing finances with someone, (3) having kids, or (4) being monogamous for more than X years at a time. So, given my preferences... sell me on marriage. What are the upsides?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:19 PM
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The only men who put up with their shitty personalities just use them for their bodies because they can't form a genuine relationship with many of them. For the sake of argument let's assume this is true (I have no opinion). Why do these men need to form a "genuine relationship" - whatever that is - with a woman? Maybe it's just not something they desire or need. Maybe sex is all they need from a woman to be content. If this is the case, why is this a bad thing? If a man can be happy without hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:57 PM
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Avoiding reproduction has been one of this living creature's primary goals. Which I have achieved with the assistance of a vasectomy early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:47 PM
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You didn't. I was clarifying a point in case you did feel that way since many people here consider "building something with someone" to be marriage and children. If you don't feel that way then bully for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:42 PM
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There are relationship statuses that lie between fuck buddies and marriage. My longest relationship was over 10 years and I've been in several that lasted 2-3 years. And, of course, many that have only lasted a few months or less. But if your definition of "partner" is restricted to someone you spend your entire life with then no, I've managed to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:14 PM
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I enjoy having a partner. I've had a lot of them. But a lifetime partner? And kids? Noooo thanks. That's some combination of an anchor and a prison. I pass. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:42 PM
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In the realm of dating and relationships I'm not sure I or anyone else should pay much attention to statistics. (I'm not suggesting statistics don't have their place, of course.) I'm a unique individual, after all, participating in an activity exhibiting a tremendous degree of subjectivity. But to each their own, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:45 AM
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Dating in my mid-20s to mid-30s was pretty good. Then I was in a decade-long relationship. Dating from my mid-40s to now (mid-50s) has been great, better than my 20s and 30s. But I have very different social groups now and haven't lived in the US for a long time so I don't really know how the dating world works there anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:13 PM
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I think the swing issue here will actually be... personality. If Guy A is fit, average height, makes $1 million a year and is really charming... he's going to equalize himself with Guy B (to a certain extent). But if Guy A is milquetoast while Guy B is really charming... yeah, Guy B is going to eat his lunch; money can't save Guy A here. If you're making $1 million a year there's probably something unique or interesting about you. At a minimum you're very highly skilled at something, which is (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:06 PM
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There are plenty of hobbies in which people engage that are not particularly good for their mental health. Porn, drugs, excessive gaming... I could go on. I'm wondering if this is one of those. To be clear, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:47 PM
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Does seething about this on the internet with strangers actually help? Does it improve the quality of your life? It seems like a waste of time and energy, but what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 03:00 PM
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Welp, sounds like you're avoiding women and vice versa. Which sounds like the best plan for all involved. Given your views, however, I do find it odd how much time and energy you devote to thinking and commenting about women. It reminds me of the famous elevator scene in Mad Men: Ginsberg: I feel bad for you. Don Draper: I don't think of you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:00 PM
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There is a large percentage of people - men in this case - that don't want other people to be happy. So if someone is happy - a man paying for sex with a prostitute in this case - they need to find a flaw in this happiness in order to make themselves feel better, because they themselves are miserable and want others to be miserable too. I don't find sex with a prostitute particularly fulfilling or enjoyable (yes, I've tried it), but... if other men do, I say more power to 'em. If two consenting …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:19 AM
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Other peoples' delusions don't really bother me much; on the contrary, they're often quite amusing. This is reddit's principal value proposition, after all. If only folks weren't anonymous and we could attach their delusions to real people... now that would really be something. I dare to dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:29 PM
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Agree but with a modification: Some Most people just need to accept that some most of us are ordinary-to-ugly and will never get a 19 year old virgin porn star lookalike. Fixed that for you. Indeed, "most" is not a pleasant place to be here. And denial is ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:16 PM
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The older guys will be stuck with the older women, as always. "Most" and "stuck," yes. The fate of so many of these "mosts" is quite unpleasant. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:05 PM
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Agree with this. I'd add that it also depends on the stage of the relationship he's in. A guy early in a relationship he's happy in is much less likely to cheat than the same guy 10 years into a marriage with kids and a dead-ish bedroom, all else equal. So, opportunity (many options) + dissatisfaction probably drives a lot of the decision making. As you point out, without attractive options... the rest is out of your hands. I imagine few surveys on this topic parse out these important distinctio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 03:18 PM
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I'd describe it as "odd" as opposed to "gross," but to each their own. Also, anyone early-twenties or younger is barely out of his/her teens. Indeed, that's pretty young if a 40+ person is hitting on them. In contrast, I don't even find it odd that Brad Pitt (61) is dating a 35-year old woman. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 03:21 AM
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So it's all quite simple. If you aren't critical of "older men" hitting on younger women, then you can be critical of fit guys complaining about overweight women hitting on them. But if you're ok with folks referring to "wrinkly old creeps" then... well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't really care what folks do in any of these cases, but it would be nice if they were consistent with their prejudices and pejoratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:49 PM
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Ooh! Are we doing "by your logic"? Yes, we are. How about white people who want to date black people? Are we allowed to call them "race traitors"? You tell me. You came up with "wrinkly old creep," not me. Or are different things different after all? Ageism, lookism and racism are all forms of discrimination and prejudice with their own unique differences. Ageism (in many cases) and heightism (in almost all cases) are just about the only prejudices that are culturally acceptable to most folks. (…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 03:11 PM
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Just for consistency's sake, is it culturally acceptable to refer to unfit women who want to date fit men as "creepy fat cows"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:17 AM
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I don't think most women care very much. The reason being... that it's pretty rare. If you don't see something much in your everyday life you're not going to give it much thought. Having said that... if you read the comments from women regarding male celebrities, for example, dating/marrying much younger women, they are 90% negative. So, I think women here are being honest when they say they don't really give much thought to the issue. But... if it were much more common, I think you'd see more w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:00 AM
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Indeed, self-deception is rampant - both genders engage with abandon. Alas, only empirical results matter; everything else is just conjecture. Oddly, I've actually never been in a Hooters...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:27 AM
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If your expectations are sufficiently low, happiness is easily achieved. That's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:08 AM
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Fortunately the number is much greater than 1 in 100 million (ha!). Even here on Reddit there's r/agegap (an odd sub where, surprisingly, many of the posters are women from what I recall). Plenty of older men have no issues attracting younger women... but, no, they're not the paunchy, balding, socially awkward milquetoasts you seem to be surrounded by in Humdrum, USA. Regardless, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:04 AM
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I think you're quite normal in that regard. But there are many exceptions, in absolute, if not percentage, terms. Fortunately the world is brimming with variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:26 AM
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Most older guys age quite poorly - they let themselves go, especially if married with kids. Having said that, "balding, paunchy, awkward" men are unattractive at every age... not just when they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:22 AM
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That is a sad state of affairs. My experience has been the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:16 AM
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Related, the biggest problem with sex with prostitutes is that the quality is generally quite poor. It's actually not easy to fake real sexual attraction and enjoyment when you're repulsed by your client, which is the norm. Unless you're really paying up ($1,000+ ?), it's a volume business and she just wants you finished as quickly as possible so she can move on to the next customer. And lest we forget... condoms (uggh). Paying for sex is a great idea in theory, not so much in reality. Unless yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:58 AM
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I saw some survey a while back that reported 90% of people - men and women - dislike condoms, and about half of that number disliked them intensely. In a new relationship I'll use a condom once or twice but if the relationship has legs she'll have to get tested because continued use of a condom is a dealbreaker for me. I've had a vasectomy, never had an STD, get tested regularly, and don't even consider use of a condom as qualifying as sex. It's like getting a foot massage with your slippers on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:51 PM
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The only purpose is the enjoyment of your life until you turn to dust. "Greater purpose"? That's Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, magical thinking, fairy tale baloney. But you've got a lot of company there, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:05 AM
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I'm 57 and I've been in a lot of relationships - from a few months to ten years. If that's hedonism in your lexicon then, yup, hedonism forever. I find it quite satisfying. I'm certainly not getting married. Different strokes and all...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:56 AM
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Sex is an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It needs not have some deeper purpose or meaning. Just avoid pregnancy and disease. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:48 AM
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That last paragraph is right on the mark. A question is... why do so many men - just to narrow the focus - with very similar characteristics/backgrounds have such dramatically different levels of confidence? You can often see this within families, among brothers. I don't know the answer. I imagine it's somehow tied to genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:58 PM
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Well, yes, if your own league is "humans" it won't make you more appealing to (non-existent) "super-humans." You're stuck in the human league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:37 PM
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Sure I dated all the time but I wasn't getting nearly the attention that the very good looking star team mate got. So you're not particularly attractive. Imagine if you hadn't been a star athlete. Probably would have been far worse. Name some examples of status? In the ghetto - being a drug dealer. In a bumphuck small town - being Sheriff... or a drug dealer Politician Forgetting about the attractiveness of money itself - let's assume that's zero - being wealthy in and of itself is often a statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:12 AM
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When I said that being sexually attracted to someone was superficial and asked, "Who isn't [superficial in this way]?" you responded with, "People who are authentic." Consequently, it's your belief that people who care about such banalities as physical appearance where sexual attraction is concerned are not authentic. And you claim to be authentic, so... a morbidly obese woman should be a good match for you if everything else is compatible. If physical attraction "is natural and isn't a choice" …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:32 PM
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Ok, so, yes, you'd be happy being in a relationship with a morbidly obese woman so long as she's "authentic." Because any concern about looks would make one "not authentic." And presumably you're authentic and, thus, don't care about such a superficial issue as appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 05:35 AM
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Welp, lessons learned. Better late then never. Although the wife and kids are going to be a financial anchor until well beyond your prime earning years.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:46 AM
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So... you are married with kids. My question is... if you believe money/status are important in providing for them... why do you have neither? Is it because it took you until 35 to realize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:26 AM
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Agreed but you're avoiding the issue. So, you'd be happy being in a relationship with a morbidly obese woman because she's authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:19 AM
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Oh and once you have kids. Money and status becomes a way to take care of them. So still dealing with procreation. Well, you're married and have kids but you're not particularly successful. So... why? You say it's important but you're a mediocre white collar wage slave. Your outcome seems at odds with your stated worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:14 AM
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So, you'd be happy marrying a morbidly obese woman because she's "authentic." That's good news - you should have no issues finding takers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 10:56 PM
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Money doesn't matter... if you have it. It does matter... if you don't. But, yes, I am superficial where sexual attraction is concerned. I assume the women I date are as well. Who isn't?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 09:56 PM
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The lady doth protest too much, methinks. You are really wrapped around the axle on this issue, aren't you. Let me guess... either (1) you don't make much money so it irritates you that guys who do make money don't have to think about the money they spend on dating women, because the amount is inconsequential, and/or (2) you can't date in any case (due to other factors) and this is your catch-all excuse to justify why you don't date (and serves as some "moral" basis to complain about the others …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 08:45 PM
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No thanks. (1) I likely earn many, many times more than her, (2) the cost is inconsequential to me, so why bother considering it, and (3) I'm not looking for a wife so if I discover she's a parasite, I just move on. No big deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:03 AM
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I'm not unhappy with the state of the dating market - I don't feel like I'm wasting my energy - so why would I want it to change? I don't see any benefit from your suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:59 AM
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By all means, define "nonsense" in your world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:01 PM
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Every relationship you'll have in your life - mother, father, sister, brother, friend, boss, employee, neighbor, etc etc - will involve some level of give-and-take (or "nonsense" in your parlance). That doesn't mean you should avoid such relationships altogether. It simply means you have to manage them all accordingly to achieve a positive result (for yourself). Girlfriends are no different. This seems like a blinding glimpse of the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:09 AM
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The "nonsense" doesn't seem particularly burdensome to me. Of course, I'm not married (nor have any interest in it). Being in a non-cohabitating relationship just doesn't seem that onerous. And if you enjoy condom-free sex with attractive women, well, a relationship (of sorts) is likely your best path. I haven't found women to be particularly vexatious. Although I could see this happening in the context of marriage, living together, or just dating a bad match. "Choosing wisely" probably mitigate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:58 AM
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I wonder how much of the issue is simply internet/gaming/social media addiction. In other words, the issue isn't really that there aren't outlets for socializing in person but rather that a lot of folks are addicted to their online activities, which provide some modicum of utility, and then they feel lonely because their addiction doesn't allow them to get out and participate in the world, which is a normal human need. Most drug addicts don't want to be anti-social; they're anti-social because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:05 PM
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superficially social spaces (e.g - the apps you mentioned) But... these apps are used to meet people. In person. People I otherwise wouldn't have met. And can meet outside of that specific activity - tennis in this case - if I so choose. I think it's quite amazing. When I began my working life, it was totally normal to have a knock-off beer with your workmates on Friday afternoon. When I'm in Mexico (Baja) I meet a group of (non-work) friends in San Diego almost every Friday night for beers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:25 AM
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there were outlets and places that existed back then that got bulldozed by the onrush of late capitalism. What are these places? I've asked this question a couple of times in the last year or so and never gotten an answer. I can't think of a single type of place that I went thirty years ago that doesn't exist today. But perhaps there were places I never went (or was aware of) years ago that aren't around today. I find it easier than ever to socialize today largely because of technology. If I'm i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:21 AM
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I seriously doubt it but I can't say for certain. It's a hypothetical I'm not faced with. Where you stand depends upon where you sit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:57 AM
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To what end? Well, I like dating and having sex with attractive, sex-positive women that have decent personalities. I have no interest in marriage, kids, or cohabitation. So far, so good - I have no material complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:50 AM
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But how else are these women going to learn? They need to get a taste of their own medicine. Making them like me and then breaking up with them over a physical trait, which they are insecure about, is the best way to give them the same treatment they give men. Why even bother with all of this business. No one cares. You're not the leader of some union; other men don't care what you're doing. This goal of "getting women to learn" is a complete waste of time. It reeks of bitterness and revenge fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:41 PM
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Unattractive women - like men - come in all shapes and sizes, and from all sorts of backgrounds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 02:02 AM
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Uff. These had to be some real beasts. On the other hand, I think I saw this happen in a movie. Once.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:10 PM
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Why are they the worst? They’re not into you for you, they’re into the material stuff you can bring. I suspect that women view the achievement of "status" (whether through power, wealth, career, or whathaveyou) as an indicator of "success." And "success" is viewed as a sexually attractive personality trait separate and apart from what can be provided economically. Let's recall high school. I knew plenty of average-looking guys that excelled as athletes or musicians that got plenty of female atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:33 PM
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you should invest NO money into any dates you have with women unless they're already your girlfriend or wife. If your presence alone isn’t enough then you’re just coping by trying to compensate for a lack of genuine attraction. If you don't have much money, sure. If you're wealthy you don't care what a date costs - it's negligible. It's beneath consideration. Why inconvenience yourself just because other guys are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:25 AM
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This all sounds very familiar. Why create a new account?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:48 AM
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Unfortunately there aren't any great shortcuts where sex/relationships are is concerned. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:50 AM
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Zero. The sex will likely be terrible; mediocre at best (and condom for sure). Great idea on paper, however; just not so great in reality. Better and easier to hire an actual housekeeper/cook/etc and, separately, find a girlfriend that actually wants to be with me. Unfortunately there aren't any great shortcuts where sex/relationships are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:40 AM
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Any progress on this tantalizing video?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:47 PM
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I have a lot of it on video, and if I get bored this weekend I’ll blur some things and post it here. Please do. Sounds bizarre. The man looked exactly like Leonardo DiCaprio with less hair and a missing canine. Poor Leo. He's like the anti-Brad Pitt. He's just turned into an unkempt oompa loompa. Fine actor, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:45 PM
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You know that saying, There's no "I" in "team". Well there's no "me" in team either. I'm perfectly happy with the status quo so I'm going to pass on cartel membership. But best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:19 AM
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I find talking about other peoples' relationships pretty boring, generally. I assume others feel the same way so I never bring mine up unsolicited. And if someone asks, I keep the discussion short. I mean... who cares? I like women. In reality. Fantasy doesn't interest me much... unless it's going to morph into reality, that is. But no amount of discussion is going to help in that department; that's going to require doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:14 AM
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A fairly small percentage of men are into bodybuilding or cosmetic surgery. And most men don't make much money. So if guys are doing or contemplating these things to attract women... most of them are failing miserably. But more importantly... why does anyone really care how other men are managing their relationships? Why is this any of my, or anyone else's, concern? This seems like a highly personal, private matter so full of individual nuance that it's not particularly fit for a reddit sub. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:01 AM
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A bad relationship is no big deal. You just end it. A bad marriage, however... that's often a life-altering (negative) event. And divorce/poll statistics suggest it's quite common. I'll pass, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:59 PM
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Jesus, that's depressing. But, hey... whatever floats one's boat. Because someone doesn't have a family doesn't mean they're "by themselves." I've got a far wider social circle than most of my married-with-kids friends. For the most part, they don't have much time for socializing. Although I suspect that will change once the kids are out of the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:54 PM
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It releases a ton of feel good chemicals. I'm sure it does. For a while. Not unlike drugs. That's before the dead bedroom, divorce, child support, etc. Not always, of course. Some folks can avoid these pitfalls. But to not acknowledge the downside to all of this seems disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:45 PM
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Having a wife and kids is objectively good. It's objectively neutral absent additional information. Like being single, it might be great; it might be horrible. John List had a wife and kids... until he killed them. Ted Bundy led a killer single life. Literally. These are extremes, of course, but the point stands. Marital and child status without additional context are meaningless where social desirability is concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:39 PM
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At 40 years of life, even being bisexual and this attracted (potentially) to “anyone”, I have never witnessed these weird “men and women CANT BE FRIENDS” scenarios. Sir, this is a reddit sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:26 PM
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Because they are not degenerates. Probably not all degenerates (although a lot likely are) but at a minimum they clearly shouldn't have reproduced. Most people are marshmallow eaters, after all. What can you do... Which btw do you have children and a wife? Please. Telling someone who is deeply wired to want a relationship and their own family to just fill their life with meaningless garbage like hobbies and career. If you mean "meaningless" to them... I agree. But I imagine a lot of these folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:23 PM
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I had a blast in the first stages of drug addiction. It was fantastic. Eventually the bad stuff rolled along as it always does.... Then it wasn't so fantastic. A lot of folks describe various stages of child-rearing this way. Maybe you're one of those. But for every one of those there will be a dozen guys waking up feeling like shit and the worst thing is they won't even know why because its politically incorrect to inform them nowadays. I'm 57 and well aware of what makes me tick. I've had plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:45 PM
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But if he can’t handle being single without feeling lost or empty, then it’s not just a preference—it’s a dependency. Yeah. That's not good. And also pretty common, I surmise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:31 PM
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If I'm suffering from a mental disorder... I'm loving it! In fact, I'd like an additional helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:28 PM
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I don't require or desire maid services from a girlfriend. And if the only thing she's good for is banging... she probably won't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:25 PM
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Nothing will give you a better natural high then that. No amount of hobbies or gym routines can compete with it. I think this varies dramatically among people. People are wired differently where achievement of "natural highs" is concerned. I have zero desire to breed (although I enjoy practicing!). And I know a lot of folks with children, including my brother. I wouldn't trade places for them for anything. I recall reading some study a while back that 15%-20% of parents actually regret having ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:01 PM
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I'm heterosexual and enjoy sex. So I prefer to be in a "relationship" - however that's defined - as opposed to being single. But I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation or kids. Leaving the issue of (any benefits of) companionship aside, the sex part requires a partner. I also play tennis and padel. Both require partners; it's the nature of the sports. Activities that require partners aren't necessarily about validation. In many cases the partner is simply an indispensable condition without…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:33 PM
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This is a miscommunication. Yes, of course, a person can be of no value to you, personally, and still have value to the wider world. Applies to 99.99999999% of the population. And water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:13 PM
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Straw man. Nowhere did I suggest that anyone was being valued solely on the basis of their sexual attractiveness; rather that it was one item of importance. Why is valuing someone solely on the basis of personality any different? You are not valuing that person (in their entirety)... only how interesting they are to you. In your words, "you're devaluing the people around you to what you think of them and what you can get from them." Someone doesn't have to fulfill every single need for a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:30 PM
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Agreed. And it's perfectly ok to be an outlier. Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:02 PM
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Woman are not products that expire after a certain age No, but... their sexual attractiveness, specifically, does generally expire after a certain age. As it does for men. Yes, of course, there are men and women who avail themselves of fitness, diet, cosmetic procedures, etc as they age and these folks can remain sexually attractive as they get older. But this is a pretty small minority. Most folks get fat, bald (for men), wrinkly, etc by 50 or so. Can't we just acknowledge that this happens and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:14 PM
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The worst part is you don't even realize it. I seriously doubt it. I'm 57. I'm pretty sure I know exactly what gives me contentment at this point in my life. I've had extensive experience and practice on the subject. People without a purpose in their life get into shit like drugs, alcohol and all sorts of other addictions. I agree. And yet rehab facilities and casinos are filled with married folks with kids. (Although, yes, "idle hands are the devil's workshop...") You can have "purpose" in your…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:14 PM
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You've bought into the worldview that Society has been selling for a long time. Allow me to play devil's advocate. Humans are made to pair bond. And we have an incredibly strong evolutionary drive to reproduce. If you don't get married and have children. Chances are it will have catastrophic effects on your psyche later on. Most humans desire pair bonding, but many do not. And you can pair bond without getting married or having children. Most people have a strong drive to reproduce, but many don…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:38 PM
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There are advantages to marriage if (1) you're middle class and below, and/or (2) want kids, and/or (3) you're wired for co-dependency (or in otherwise poor health). If you're healthy, wealthy, don't want kids, aren't co-dependent, and lead an interesting life... you're going to fair far better unmarried, on average. The idea of Disneyfied "lifetime romantic love" is largely a fiction perpetuated by the Hollywood Industrial Complex and related Complexes (Jewelry, Wedding, etc). There's a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:48 PM
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Yes, I suspect you'd feel quite differently if you were wealthy; if you have little to lose, the downside is minimal. People and circumstances can change dramatically over the course of a long relationship. To not acknowledge this fact (and protect yourself accordingly) seems unwise to me. Of course the most efficient strategy is... don't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:26 PM
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A woman who is attracted to a man because of money or status. That's just a regular human female. I wonder how many of these women would marry a man where she had to sign a prenup which gave her very little/nothing in a divorce, and she would not have access to his wealth while they were married? I suspect not many. A man's wealth is only an attractive feature (I agree with you here) if she believes she will also have access to it (eventually). Otherwise... it's fools gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:59 PM
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Women wouldn't accept an arrangement that doesn't give them the upper hand. women aren't going to settle for an arrangement that doesn't give them the upper hand in their own way. Perhaps they just accept arrangements where they believe they have the upper hand (or "in their own way" in your parlance) when in reality... they don't. Basically a similar argument you're making about men. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Except work and relationships are very different. Sure. But there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:52 PM
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A gold digger is just a glorified prostitute. I wonder what percentage of non-working women (those in a "real relationship" - to use your descriptor) would stay with their partner if he became long-term unemployed and could no longer provide for her (or the family). Are those women that would move on not "glorified prostitutes"? Resources were the foundation of the relationship, after all. I suspect there's a lot of gray area among these groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:40 PM
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it's kind of a cowardly thing to do. I view it as the lazy thing to do. And I'm lazy. I always pay - even if the date is bad - because the money is inconsequential so I can't be bothered to even think about it, much less discuss it. Life's too short. But that's just me, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:52 PM
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I don't understand why people feel the need to explain these things with words. Just post photos. Otherwise, it just comes off as LARPing, of which this sub is chock full.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:07 PM
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why any woman would want to be submissive, be led and provided for. Its obviously because she benefits from that arrangement. It allows her to have the upperhand, otherwise she wouldn't want it. There's a (syllogistic) logical flaw here. Because she "benefits from the arrangement" does not mean she has the upper hand. People accept all sorts of arrangements that benefit them in which they do not have the upper hand. The overwhelming majority of employees, for example, accept an employment arrang…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:34 PM
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Ha! I like the pun (although, I'm a Gen Xer). Yes, I'm an ingenious Svengali adept at casting love spells over impressionable 28-year old women who, at the same time - according to most folks like yourself - have "all of the power" in the dating world. It's an amusing paradox. One wonders what age a woman needs to reach to no longer be infantilized by the same folks who insist these women have complete agency over their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:11 PM
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All of the avenues I mentioned are available to 20somethings. I met my current girlfriend at a dog rescue cafe. She's 28. Anyhow, I think men comprise about 2/3s of online dating profiles. So clearly a pretty large proportion of women aren't meeting guys via the apps (although many are, obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:13 AM
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Scholarships aren’t that rare. I know. I never said or suggested they were. Another non sequitur. But idc if a 60 year old man on a dating sub believes me or not. It's unclear to me what my age has to do with anything at all that we've been discussing. Several of my peers own houses, so you are mistaken. Of course they do. You're 28. So, strawman. How many of your peers bought a house at 18 while they were going to college? That allegedly increased in value 10x over ten years? Let me help you he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:18 PM
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That makes you older than my parents, who are from the Boomer generation themselves. Uh... no. I'm 57, Gen X. I'm not sure how you deduced I was older than a Boomer. I assumed you were making excuses as to why you didn’t buy a house while you were younger, but clearly we are decades apart. No. I was merely alluding to the fact that 18-year old college students who bought houses ten years ago were so rare as to be rounding errors close to zero. Carl Sagan had a famous quote about claims like your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:33 PM
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"Sorry"...? You just entered the realm of non sequiturs. I have no idea how any of this relates to my prior comment. Are you confusing me with the foot fetish guy again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:01 PM
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Not now, it’s worth ten times what I paid for it but I’ve been remodeling it slowly over the years. Wow. That's 26% per annum compounded. Yours might be the most successful real estate investment on the planet, in terms of annualized return, of the last 10 years. Again, that's amazing. Ten years ago it was much easier to qualify for a mortgage and pay it alone. Well, it was easier, but it wasn't easy. Unless the house cost like $50,000. The percentage of under-20 college students buying a house …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:43 PM
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So this was a very inexpensive house out in the boondocks. Nevertheless you managed while going to college, etc. That's still a lot of work. Like I said, amazing. Shoe size? No, that's a bad bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:20 PM
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You bought a house while you were in high school? That's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:10 PM
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I'm 57. I've met girlfriends through dog rescue, playing tennis, padel, and pickleball, introductions from friends, parties, language exchanges, instagram (via acquaintances), etc etc. I met one woman through tinder about 8 years back but dropped the subscription shortly thereafter. If you work a lot and aren't engaged in a lot of social activities... apps are going to be your main outlet, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:15 AM
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I think "hot" for men is a very high threshold - probably less than 5% (maybe considerably less) - these are guys that will turn many women's heads; pretty rare. "Cute" is a much lower threshold... maybe 20% qualify; not gonna turn many heads but at least a typical woman will think "eh, he's pretty cute" if she meets him. Then another 10-15% of "not bad looking" maybe. That's unscientific of course. And I've been wrong before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:20 PM
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You’re just being a jerk Well, when someone says they asked a question when clearly they didn't, I tend to get snarky. she prob doesn’t speak English well She doesn't, but I'm not sure why this is relevant as I speak Spanish. I've lived in Mexico and Colombia for over a decade. Let's be honest, pretty much anyone who doesn't speak fluent Spanish and is "dating" a Colombian woman is involved with a prostitute. ("Not that there's anything wrong with that.") she helps hook it up with other hot wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 09:17 PM
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Questions in the written form of English are followed by question marks. Which are missing from your previous reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:37 AM
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I didn't realize I was being negative; I consider myself quite positive, actually. And please enlighten me, Dr Freud, on what I'm lying and deflecting about. You must think you know me quite well, so this should be chuckle-inducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/24 12:02 AM
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Ok, I didn't realize that's where you were going with this. Like many people, I have a "type." I've always been attracted to the same kind of women. So I assume it's my wiring. As it's never been an issue (in fact, to the contrary)... I've never given it much thought. Consequently, I don't know why anyone would care about this. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:18 PM
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You're way overthinking things. I just find many of your posts quite bizarre. (Hey, oddball takes is the main reason why this sub is so entertaining.) And I don't understand why you deleted these.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 06:05 PM
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Why did you delete your replies in our thread? They were only mildly embarrassing and you're anonymous. It's poor reddiquette to serve up amusement and then remove the bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:45 PM
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I wasn’t facing them I was turned around. Yes, right, of course... There's no need to "go through" your comments. You're one of the most prolific posters and commenters on this sub. You can't be missed. You got a girlfriend or what. Yes. She's toward the bottom. Since you asked. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/xsy6hq9wkcbu9dv3q5vma/h?rlkey=8ly9h37y16hjjinften7212jw&e=1&dl=0 you’re obsessed bro Well you certainly amuse me, "bro". So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:58 PM
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Thanks, but no. I don't need you fabulizing that some old drunk tried to pay me $10,000 to spend the weekend with him. Right in front of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 09:25 PM
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I'm just reporting. You wrote those words, not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:40 PM
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I thought your "hot gf" told you to get off of this sub, you agreed and said you weren't going to post here anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:29 PM
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Sure, but... you're right there with her. For a long enough amount of time for the offer to come up. Without him noticing you. I understand the basic idea - I've lived in NYC, London, Chicago, San Diego, etc - I just can't follow how what you've described actually happens to a woman who is actually on a date with her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:32 AM
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My girlfriend a few months back had some old guy offer her $10,000 to come by his beach house for a couple days. I was at the bar with her and heard the conversation.<<< You're sitting next to your girlfriend for the (minimum?) 15 minutes it would take for this $10,000 offer to come up just... listening to them chat, doing nothing? This guy has no clue that the guy sitting next to her is her boyfriend? Why would she need to explain she had a boyfriend if you got up together and left? You were ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:14 AM
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It's not just the quantity but also (and possibly more importantly) the quality. This goes for both genders, not just men. Why would anyone stay in a relationship in which they were sexually unfulfilled? Unless they were stuck in it, that is (kids, finances, social ties, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:33 AM
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That's one of the reasons I have no interest in marriage. The percentage of women over the age of 45 that I'm sexually attracted to is some fraction of one percent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 01:44 AM
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Apparently body shaming is a good thing when feminist do it and when men are the target. The problem with high ideals is that they're seldom easy to live by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:49 PM
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If you live your life according the opinions of others you'll become a slave to them. In my estimation most people live boring, banal lives. Consequently, living well in a bespoke manner often generates intense feelings of envy disguised as disapproval.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:01 PM
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https://flickr.com/photos/201835825@N05/ At least you've posted a few photos so I say... good on ya. 99.9% of the LARPers here just say, "I don't want to get doxxed!" (As if anyone would bother.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:48 PM
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Doesn’t prove my dating claims, she’s on my insta with lots of pics. Indeed. I meant to just post a link to your instagram. I have permission, she said the gtfo this sub, and she said you want to talk about something online talk about me. I'm happy to talk about if you like but I don't know much about you. You're anonymous. I find this sub to be one of the more amusing subs I visit. I quite enjoy all of the bizarro world takes. Also, she’s 19 years younger than me. That's an odd non sequitor. Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:39 PM
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Just post it here. No need for these secrecy measures. You're not in witness protection or a pursued enemy of the state, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:54 PM
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I certainly don't want to. But I could. Yes, someone I've been dating. You asked where these men were. I answered your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 09:23 PM
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I'm 57. I could marry a hot younger woman tomorrow. Although perhaps I'm a pop-up ad. Or an anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:18 PM
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So you're a virgin member of the sexual purity cult that pedestalizes sex. That sounds like a miserable way to live. But, hey, to each their own. All the best of luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:06 PM
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Yes. Which is why, among other reasons, I have zero interest in it. But, the "settling" argument is still a poor one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:20 AM
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Indeed. Although if I had to eat the same meal every day for the rest of my life - even if it was the best meal I'd ever had - I would not be a happy camper. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:15 AM
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I have seen this play out. For sure. But... it is not ubiquitous. On the other hand, I've also seen doofuses boning Chads' wives because... plenty of women just get tired of having sex with the same dude, Chadly or not. And if a doofus is available, then a doofus it shall be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:05 AM
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Out of curiosity... are you only happy with the best of everything all of the time? Because the logical conclusion of these settling discussions is that if you're not getting the very best of the best 100% of the time, you're just settling all of the time. And settling is bad. The hottest, most compatible girl you've ever dated? You settled! There's someone hotter out there. The best steak you've ever eaten? There's one better out there - you settled! That tournament you won? There's someone out…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:00 AM
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Us alpha males Any man who must say "I am the King" is no true king.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:19 AM
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I think this is pretty normal. Having a child is not unlike having a drug addiction - it's a dopamine fix. You love this child for no other reason than shared biological attachment. Outside of family, after all, no one else is going to care about this child in the same manner as you. (Just as you don't care about other peoples' kids in the same way you care about your own.) I imagine it's an evolutionary adaptation. When parents of murderers are interviewed by Keith Morrison on Dateline they all…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:22 PM
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I had a prenup that worked exactly as intended. I couldn't have been more pleased with it. Although I had a very amicable divorce and no kids were involved. So there's that. Would I get married again? 99% likelihood I would not. On the 1% odds I did get remarried would I trust in a prenup drafted by a reputable attorney? Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:56 AM
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Agree 100%. I'm just glad that there is an avenue in this day and age for the men who deliberately, willfully seek disadvantaged women to meet the clever women who deliberately, willfully seek desperate, gullible men such that these consenting adults can mutually exploit each other for their respective benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 07:03 PM
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I suppose if your definition of "exploited" is sufficiently broad... almost everyone can be a victim. Including the men in these situations. The problem, of course, is that the term ceases to have meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 11:37 PM
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A man defending PPB tells a woman to touch grass because he thinks that’s an own. Incorrect. I previously pointed out that the most prolific poster on this sub certainly understood red pill ideology (as you were pretending not to). You came back with the "dude"... so that's on you. Anyhow, I don't defend or chastise the passport bros, generally. I don't really care about them. But I disagree with your view that these relationships must, by definition, be abusive; after all, it's you that pointed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 09:41 PM
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Yeah. I love reddit. I don't comment (even a fraction) of the 50x per day you do (and on a single sub, no less), but I enjoy it. So I don't follow your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:54 PM
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Nope, reporting. Part of red pill ideology, as I understand it, is that most women go through a "hoe phase" during which they have (ultimately disappointing) sex with a bunch of guys - basically getting used and abused - only to realize at some point that they want stability with one guy, this latter guy being someone they're (generally) less attracted to (so, used and abused in a different manner). As perhaps the most prolific commenter on this sub certainly you know this. (Personally, I'm pro-…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:24 PM
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Well yeah, getting used and abused by one man is better than getting used and abused by dozens of men. A lot of red pill men on this sub would argue you're describing the dating experience of many US women in their twenties (who later look to settle down). I'm just reporting...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:04 PM
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It’s not mutual at all. But you just said men "have no idea how clever those teens and women are." The only way to interpret that statement is that they are manipulating these men. And in many cases they probably are. (Which is fine by me.) The women still have no power But they do have power: sexual capital. That's the asset they're employing to manipulate these men. Not unlike what many women do in the US. I'd be curious to know if "green card"-related relationships have a higher incidence of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:35 PM
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Exactly. As you point out, these women are clever. They are taking advantage of these men's desperation, and vice versa. It's mutual exploitation among consenting adults. Not my cup of tea, mind you, but I don't really see an issue here. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:14 PM
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Well, I mean, if we discount the fact that circumcision is both unnecessary, involuntary and carries a risk of death. But in your ignorant pro-circumcision cult universe death isn't severe damage amirite? Again - and I can understand why you didn't address this previously when I brought it up - cleft palate surgery causes more deaths than circumcision, is largely cosmetic and involuntary, and... you have voiced no issues with it. Infant mortality in the US was 564 deaths per 100,000 in 2022. Cir…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 06:25 PM
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No one - men or women - should be complaining. It accomplishes nothing. Adapt or fail. Screaming into the void is a waste of time. But it does make for amusing reading. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:59 PM
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That's because you don't see it as severe damage. Indeed. Like the overwhelming majority of humans apparently. Even most folks who choose not to circumcise their boys don't see it as "severe damage" and don't have a conniption fit over those who choose to circumsize. But clearly this doesn't matter to members of the anti-circumcision cult like yourself: https://slate.com/technology/2013/09/intactivists-online-a-fringe-group-turned-the-internet-against-circumcision.html Many American women are sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:54 PM
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Fair point - my mistake. I acknowledge the qualification! (Which most folks here fail to use - ha!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:04 PM
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I'd be careful using the word "only." While generally true, there's probably a few thousand posts (by women, no less) over on r/AgeGap that would argue differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:20 PM
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I think most men just want hot. And younger women tend to be hotter because it's much easier for them to be so. But there are plenty of women in their 30s/40s that have managed to stay incredibly well-preserved. But, yes, the cieling for hotness is higher when you're young (for both sexes).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:13 PM
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a women in her 40s can never compete with a woman in her 20s. The guy is going to choose the 20s woman every time. I'd be careful using the words "never" and "every". In the US, for example, most women in their 20s are overweight. There are plenty of women in their 30s and 40s (in absolute numbers, not in percentages) that are (much) hotter than the overwhelming majority of their (much) younger peers as a result of diet, gym, and cosmetic surgery. I'm 57M and I've dated women between the ages of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:10 PM
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It isn't growing in the US. And it's practically nonexistent elsewhere. Enjoy your isolation. Super. I could not care less about circumcision. But I find the strident folks on either side of the issue amusing. One involves consent, the other does not. And yet I can't find a single definition of "mutilation" to which circumcision would apply, consent or not. From Wikipedia: "Mutilation is severe damage to the body that has a subsequent harmful effect on an individual's quality of life." I wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:19 AM
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We ain't dying up on this hill. The rest of the world has abandoned it. This study from 2014 suggests there was a 6 percentage point decline in circumcisions in the US between 1960 and 2010 (83% to 77%... over 50 years): https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2814%2900036-6/fulltext I happen not to care but... at this rate we'll both be dead before there's any meaningful decline in circumcisions in the US. Genital mutilation is genital mutilation, no matter how much you try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:35 PM
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What he's saying - in a rather incoherent manner - is: Many an average man will see a very attractive woman who gets a lot of attention from men, and manufacture a reason in his head ("she's a hoe") to reject her because he knows she'll have nothing to do with him. In his mind, she can't reject him because he's rejecting her first. It's childish and, let's be honest, not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:18 PM
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Plenty of "below top tier men" (to use the parlance of this sub) can find plenty of casual sex. But few of these women will be particularly attractive, nor will the sex be particularly good (don't forget the condom, after all). Sex is plentiful; great sex is precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:51 PM
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Yes, it's surgery. The rate of issues with this surgery on babies/infants is some fraction of one percent. And tens of thousands of uncircumsized adult men elect to have this surgery every year. And the incidence of issues with these surgeries is some fraction of one percent. The main reason I don't have an issue with it is... it would be impossible for me to even remember it. It's not as if this is some equivalence to women's clitorises being removed (in certain countries) as young girls, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:39 PM
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Boys die from all sorts of things that are "unnecesary," including riding their bikes. I suspect the accidental dropping of babies/infants kills more boys than circumcision. The number is de minimis. I have zero issues with the fact I was circumsized - sorry, "surgically traumatized" - as a baby. Edit: spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:05 PM
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If she's hot, reasonable and friendly, I'd be happy to date her. But I'm not getting married. And the percentage of really hot women (and men) that have adult-age kids is quite low; most of these folks are in their mid-40s (at least) by this point. There are exceptions, of course... by not many by percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:49 PM
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I quote myself: It can work... but it's a low-probability bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:05 PM
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No surprise here. Most multi-decade married folks dread the thought of starting over in the dating/relationship game. They'd rather stick with the devil they know unless things are really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:38 AM
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No surprise here. Educated folks tend to have better impulse control than less-educated folks, are more concerned with social appearances, and have greater financial issues at stake. They're more likely to just suck it up and stick it out despite a bad marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:25 AM
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Doesn't surprise me. Although this suggests nothing about this cohort's future divorce rate (at older ages). After all, this article mentions a rise in the incidence of "gray divorces." It could well be that this (currently) younger cohort's divorce rate will be just as high... eventually... they're just deferring their divorces to older age by getting married later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:14 AM
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Comical. A statistic on the number of marriages ending in divorce during the first year of marriage. Is this from The Onion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:00 AM
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Most of the responses here are worthless. 88% of posters here are under 40 and, by definition, haven't really been married that long. I'd like to hear from folks that have been married more than 20 years and have children together. People in their 50s. That's a different world. We know around half of marriages end in divorce. I'd say half of the rest stay together for reasons other than love (finances, social issues, etc). Another 15% stay together because of inertia but they're not unhappy. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:04 AM
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First chart: Both get tested Other three charts: Don't cohabitate or get married Issues averted.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 12:58 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man Read the first two paragraphs. That's exactly what you did. So, you're going to keep hiding behind that keyboard. Predictable.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:48 PM
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Then any moment you spend not having sex with your partner is a moment of you being "significantly less" sexually attracted to them. Did you build that strawman all by yourself? Just do actual research next time. It's been provided. Clearly you won't accept anything that doesn't confirm your preconceived bias. Related, you've provided nothing - zero - to counter my argument. But my mind is still open. I have no dog in this fight. It must be frustrating when a complete stranger can read you so ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 11:28 PM
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For you to prove that sexual attraction for ones partner greatly diminishes with age you need to have an objective way to show these couples are drastically less sexually attracted to each other. What is another reason that two people would have less sex with each other, other than that they are less sexually attracted to each other? To be clear, I'm not interested in why they might be less sexually attracted to each other - it's irrelevant. But there's only one reason they're having less sex: t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:51 PM
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Are you suggesting that frequency of sex is uncorrelated with sexual attraction? Are you saying that sex drive - that is, the desire to have sex - is uncorrelated with sexual attraction? Is there any study, anywhere, that suggests sexual frequency, attraction, etc increases between couples over time on any regular basis? Google tells me this doesn't exist but perhaps you're more knowledgeable on the topic. Again, have you been in a relationship of 10+ years? Have you had many discussions on this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:11 PM
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There is a thing called Google. It has many of the answers you're looking for. For example: https://bedbible.com/sex-frequency-statistics/ Take a look at the fifth chart down. Married couples: Frequency of sex starts out at 10.9x per month and declines significantly with time. Similarly, chart at the bottom of this article: https://www.thecarlatreport.com/articles/3010-treating-sexual-dysfunction-in-women Two additional things to consider. One, these are self-report studies so the numbers are li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:38 PM
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I think they mostly don't realize it until after they've had enough experiences to reach a conclusion. Look, a pretty decent proportion of men get married even though they know they're going to cheat on their wives. This cuts both ways. Plenty of women and men go into marriages knowing or suspecting that the sexual attraction isn't going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:13 PM
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There's a boatload of research out there that's unambiguous: sexual attraction between partners diminishes, often significantly, with time. Yes, sometimes there's still some attraction that remains but it tends to diminish dramatically. Have you been in a relationship of 10+ years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:10 PM
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Who are these guys swiping on 50% of women's profiles? I was on Tinder about 5-6 years ago for six months. I swiped on a fraction of 1% of women's profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:40 PM
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It's unusual for a woman to remain sexually attracted to a guy she's been with for decades. It doesn't matter how attractive he is. The same applies to men vis-a-vis women. It is not normal for humans to stay sexually attracted to one another. (It's common in the animal kingdom as well.) So, if you're a woman and you know that eventually you're probably not going to be sexually attracted to your partner (regardless of how he looks now)... why wouldn't you prioritize money and security, as the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:23 PM
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I'd have to see photos of these women. Otherwise, my working assumption is they're not very attractive. Hot women just aren't that easy 95%+ of the time, even if the guy is pretty nice looking. (There are exceptions, of course.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:41 AM
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I can see that. I think of a social outcome as one relating to friends but clearly your family is part of your social circle. I think a lot of people have kids because they want to "fit in" socially with other families (including their extended family). Which I think is nuts, of course, but to each their own. I'm not suggesting this applies to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:25 PM
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Glad you're better now!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:10 PM
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Indeed. Which makes sense. Let's hope this isn't about achieving a "social outcome" for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:09 PM
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This may indeed be correct. But... any man that needs a woman - or anyone else, for that matter - to achieve these goals ("look good to his friends, family", "achieving social outcomes,"...), most of which appear to be issues of external validation, is already way behind the 8 ball in my view. I suspect that future disappointment in this person's life looms large...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 12:23 AM
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The problems with casual sex are that (1) you have to deal with the risks of pregnancy and disease, and (2) typically the best sex comes a bit further into a relationship when both parties are more comfortable with each other. In my view, sex with condoms barely qualifies as sex - it's beneath mediocre. But condoms are going to be involved in 90%+ of casual sex unless the parties are nuts (or drunk, on drugs, etc). (And who's getting tested prior to casual sex?) Then you have no idea what your s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/24 07:24 PM
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This is incorrect. When I'm high T, my focus greatly shifts. A chubby woman that looks like an ancient fertility goddess is VERY appealing to me, and skinny women with 8 year old boy hips are much less attractive. Although, nothing has ever made fake silicone asses look good. When you're "high T"? Why would your testosterone level be changing over a short period of time? Yeah, none of those women sound appealing to me. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:17 PM
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Well... I'm 57. So things that should apply to my age cohort that look ridiculous stick out to me. Such as that graph. You supplied it, not me. I would imagine by the time you are 50 the dating market landscape becomes much different than 30. I can't really say it has, actually. But, admittedly, maybe that's unusual. You may be right, generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 08:10 PM
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If this is the case, the lines should be flat. That is, number of partners shouldn't be correlated at all with testosterone (for 50s and 60s). Also, I've never seen such straight lines on a graph derived from actual data. Consequently, I don't think this graph is derived from real data. The hypothesis may be right or wrong, I have no opinion, but this graph is at least part fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:42 PM
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Here’s another linking every age you are if you got hjgher testosterone you will be getting more women. Actually... at ages 50 and 60 this graph is (oddly) suggesting that the number of sexual partners increases as testosterone decreases. I have no opinion on the theory or research but... this graph directly contradicts your supposition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:07 PM
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Guys with high testosterone just want women. No, they want attractive women; they accept unattractive women because they can't get the attractive women they want. I'm not sure what the benefit is of having high testosterone (in the absence of good looks and/or other attractive qualities) if you can't actually get what you want. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 07:01 PM
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I am. Although I don't think it has any relevance to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 12:29 AM
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Agreed. I'll have sex with a condom once or twice to see if there's compatibility. But after that she's gotta get tested because long-term condom use is a deal breaker for me. I got a vasectomy many years back, so no pregnancy risks from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:47 PM
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To quote a friend of mine, Having sex with a condom is like getting a foot massage with your slippers on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:16 PM
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The biggest problem is condoms. That's like... anti-sex. I don't see the point. Secondly... I seriously doubt I've met more than 100-200 women in my entire life that I had any desire to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:42 PM
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I guess this falls under "different strokes..."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 03:44 AM
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I've lived in a lot of places - London, NYC, DC, Chicago, San Diego (for 15 years) - and traveled all over. I've lived in Mexico and Colombia for over 10 years now. I've never been anywhere where there is more than a single digit percentage of attractive women out and about (in my view, anyway). Again, once you work through the math... start with ~70% overweight, now eliminate proper weight but unfit, eliminate 45+ (realistically), now eliminate unattractive face, etc etc... there's not much lef…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:43 PM
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I don't see lots of attractive women - at least not to my tastes - anywhere. Well, plenty on Instagram, but they're a tiny percentage of the total, of course. I just rely on luck for the most part, which has (oddly) worked out pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:27 PM
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I seriously doubt there are 160 women on any dating app in any city that I'd find attractive enough to sleep with. Then again, I haven't been on Tinder in ages so maybe things have changed. But with 70% of women being overweight and then filtering for other characteristics of attraction... seems like only a few percent would be worth a date (then you gotta deal with condoms... no thanks). But that's just me, of course; to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 06:12 PM
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I highly doubt any of the men on this sub will ever date young women again once they pass 30 I'm 56. Over the last decade I've dated women between their mid-20s and mid-40s. My current girlfriend is 28. The women I've dated that were in their 30s and 40s looked better than 90%+ of women in their 20s. Of course that's a soft comparison (no pun intended) as, statistically, most "young women" (and men, to be fair) are overweight in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:34 PM
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Only if those high standards aren't met. (Which happens a lot if this sub is any indication.) Happiness = Results - Expectations You can be quite happy with very high expectations... so long as your results exceed them. The optimal circumstance is high expectations coupled with even better results. But most folks aren't going to achieve this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/24 03:59 PM
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I disqualify about 95% of women for sex/relationship. Maybe more. I probably disqualify 50% for casual friendship. Of course that latter stat probably also applies to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:12 PM
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What's interesting is the guys who get laid easily and frequently (because of looks and money) don't find any meaning or happiness in sex and chasing women anymore because eventually they realise how empty it all is. "Meaning" is not a prerequisite for "enjoyable" or "fun." Life is meaningless, in my view, but it sure is fun. Substitute "life" with "sex" and... there you have it. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults. Problems arise when people pedestalize it and try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:43 PM
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Who is "their"? Their perception of life is what? A complete sentence would be helpful here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:53 AM
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The issue is the definition of "common." The median adult in the US has something like 7 or 8 partners in their entire life. So, clearly half of folks in the US are not having casual sex. I believe less than 10% have 25 or more lifetime partners, which doesn't seem like a lot. So, again, it just depends on how you define "common." I don't really have an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:37 PM
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Porn is reflective of some people's real sex lives... but very few on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:00 PM
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I'm not anonymous. I give my unvarnished opinion, civilly of course. I always viewed the desire for anonymity on reddit to be rooted in fear. And/or the desire to be uncivil without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:33 PM
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I guess you'd need to define "modern relationship". I don't know why anyone would enter any consensual arrangement of any kind if they weren't getting something of value from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:26 PM
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Marriages, specifically, are rarely worth it in my view (and statistics tend to bear this out). "Relationships," however, in their various forms and durations can be worth it depending on what you're looking for. But I agree with you that most men are not sexually attracted to their aging partners, although they may derive other non-sexual benefits from the relationship. It's pretty unusual to find women or men over about 45 that are sexually attractive, although they're out there (mainly in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:44 PM
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Everyone thinks they're special. Garden-variety solipsism or maybe because mommy told them their hineys are more shiny and special than all of the other kids' hineys. Homo sapiens have been around for a few hundred thousand years. Dinosaurs lasted 170 million years. I don't have high hopes for humans - or any particular group - in the long term. Extinction is just part of evolution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:43 PM
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99.9%+ of all species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. Seems highly unlikely humans will be an exception. But, hey, chase the long odds if you like; to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:31 AM
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I don't have an interest in others having children either. I could not care less. Children are not necessary for a well-functioning society, by my definition anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:33 AM
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I have zero interest in children I'm not interested in funding someone else's "pursuit of passions" - she can handle that on her own. On "average," yes. Of course, on average... people are overweight, unhealthy and live pretty boring lives. Personally, "average" doesn't really interest me. I think I'll keep gambling on relationships as opposed to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:23 PM
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That might be doable. 8%+ annualized over 50 years will get you there. Assumes humans are still around, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:26 PM
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Over how many years? In 99.99%+ of cases the returns you've generated thus far are not even remotely sustainable (and, frankly, will likely reverse).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/24 04:19 PM
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It doesn't apply in all, or perhaps even most, instances. But... it's a real phenomenon that persists today. Just not with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:04 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:02 AM
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Well, you'd have to read the entry first, which will take about 5-10 minutes. As opposed to the 30 seconds it took you to reply. You can explain its irrelevance to Richard Dawkins, the foremost evolutionary biologist of the last 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:02 AM
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In all likelihood you'd still love him. Jeffrey Dahmer's parents loved him up until he got bludgeoned to death in that prison gym. Parents' attitudes toward their kids are often devoid of logic; parenthood is an emotional addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:01 AM
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Sexy Son Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:57 AM
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Sexy Son Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:55 AM
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I'm a bit confused as to how you can be this: I don’t feel wanted by anyone. I couldn’t go on with no friends and girlfriend. and this: I don’t have a shortage of attention from anyone. I don’t even need to approach half the time. ...at the same time. You might want to pick just one and stick with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/24 09:01 AM
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Yeah, sex. Love - that is, romantic love - is great but it doesn't last. And that's ok. There was a time when romantic love was important to me. But that's long since passed. Friendship plus great sex has been a perfectly good substitute for quite some time now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 09:13 AM
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He whispers in the darkness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah, I'd say that's mostly true. I think the Latin American culture is generally friendlier and sex positive (despite the prevalence of Catholicism).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:11 PM
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I live in Latin America. I have no idea what this is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:33 AM
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If you're not immune to petty criticisms, prepare to be a slave to them. Who cares what these folks think...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:22 AM
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FYI, accounts don't expire. You can take a break and just come right back to your original account. Even years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:18 AM
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I am now understanding why your last account got suspended, seeing as this new account is a week old. And already up to hundreds of posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:13 PM
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You definitely have strong biased against monogamy or at least life long monogamy buddy Correct. And statistically speaking, clearly most folks aren't very good at it. Wow that's obviously sarcasm. At least I provided evidence of animals changing environment to suit their needs and this is all you can do Yes. When you feel you've proven me wrong on this issue and have the evidence, please feel free to post it. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong. No hurry, of course. So any form of complain again…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:06 PM
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Monogamous people are now to expect their partner dating or having sex with other people. I think that's an overstatement. I'd say many monogamous folks don't plan on having the same partner forever. Further, many folks just don't place a high value on monogamy; they don't pedestalize sex. I'd argue a lot of modern dating problems begin with the notion that sex is some sort of purity indicator, as opposed to just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults. Actually humans can change the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:33 PM
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The folks that are ok with "sharing" (let's just call it non-monogamy) don't care what other folks think about it. And no amount of suggesting what they "should" do or shaming them is going to change it. You are on your own in the dating/relationship world. No individual or group is going to make it easier for you because of something you or others believe they "should" do. The world doesn't care if you think the price of petrol is too high; the price is the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:17 PM
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Pardon the grammar police but... I think you mean "equate."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 08:34 PM
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I've been out in public many hundreds, perhaps thousands, of times with very attractive women and never been challenged with a physical confrontation in a single instance. And I've lived in some dangerous parts of the world. You must live in some strange alternate universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 08:44 AM
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I'm not anonymous. I say exactly what I think here. I think most folks will accept a very wide variety of views if they're stated in a civil manner. I think anonymity here on reddit is mostly used to be uncivil and make pretzel logic arguments without repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:44 PM
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You: I’m not like a nerdy guy I’m very muscular finance bro type Also you: Yea I’m skinny fat so may maybe she was helping me Might want to just pick one and stick to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:35 AM
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My current girlfriend buys me chocolate sometimes because I'm a sugaraholic. Most of the girlfriends I've had in the past rarely - although occasionally - got me anything other than on birthdays, christmas, etc. Not that I wanted them to, frankly. I really don't want gifts from anyone. I'd rather them spend that money on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:49 PM
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Your heritable non-height traits are so undesirable that only additional height can counterbalance them. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 07:10 PM
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I equate childlessness with (a certain amount of) happiness in my own life. What other people choose to do where breeding is concerned is irrelevant to me. Breed an army or live alone in a shack in the woods. I give zero fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:34 PM
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Yes and you preceeded that sentiment with, "children are seen as a burden and not a blessing." I agree that both folks with and without children can be happy with their decision. And that neither holds a monopoly on selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:17 PM
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I always viewed having children as fairly selfish. No parents are having kids for the good of society. It's because THEY want them. If you ask someone why they want to have kids, the answer inevitably begins with, "Well, I want...", not "Well, society needs my spawn." I find it amusing that you equate happiness with being childfree; I happen to agree, but you rarely see pro-family folks admit it so readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:55 PM
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Chasing after things (re: desperation) doesn't work too well. I've found that a touch of charm and letting things come to you is more effective. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:19 PM
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I wasn't supporting my argument. I was merely addressing your questions and assumptions from your previous comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:13 PM
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I'm 56. But there's a very high chance your opinion on who is and isn't attractive isn't the same as a 30 year old guy for example. You're right. I suspect my opinion on who is and isn't attractive is considerably more discerning than a typical 30-year old guy. I generally find guys who are middle aged or older, to find literally any 25-30 year old woman who is in shape to be attractive. I'd be lucky to find 3% of this group attractive. My girlfriend is toward the bottom of these pictures: https…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:04 PM
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Yes, mathematically, most people are average or below-average in looks and have few resources. There's little to leverage for either party. Once we start talking about wealthy and very attractive folks, the numbers decline dramatically. Most folks fly economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:31 PM
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Many marriages are as you describe. And many marriages, particularly involving wealthy men, are predicated - expressly or implicitly - on financial considerations. Both can be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:24 PM
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The phenomenon of less-than-attractive men with trophy wives/girlfriends is a timeless cliché. It's that common. Anyhow, believe what you choose. The universe is indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:21 PM
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I worked in private equity and investment banking for over 20 years (retired now). Between traversing the globe for deals - endless dinners, events, board meetings, conferences, boondoggles, etc - I saw this kind of thing everywhere. It's ubiquitous. I guess we live on different planets. No need to apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:24 AM
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And the Bay Area and Phoenix/Scottsdale and Las Vegas and Chicago and Atlanta and Houston and DC and Philly and... basically every major metro in the US. Which collectively comprise a large percentage of the total population of the country. (Not to mention we see the same phenomenon in most major metros all over the world.) This goes on pretty much everywhere anyone has money. And within the context of many relationships and marriages that that look and quack like sugar daddy relationships excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:58 AM
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arrangements where men pay the women You mean like marriage? I lived in Southern California for 15 years and saw plenty of otherwise average-looking (often older) rich dudes both dating and married to very hot (often younger) women way out of their league looks-wise. Was there a stated contractual quid pro quo in these instances? Likely rarely. Was there an unspoken "understanding" regarding financial support? Likely often. Even among attractive people, there's not much romance without finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:39 AM
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Understood. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:30 AM
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I didn't say it was easy. Few things of value are easily obtained, after all. But it is the preferred route, in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:28 AM
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Or just have a lot of other options. If you're in more demand than she is, you'll always be calling the shots... or just moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:21 PM
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Either crowd typically does NOT want to hear the whining of the losers. My view is two-fold: (1) things are the way they are, and (2) the whining doesn't appear to accomplish anything. I do think a lot of folks (on this sub, for example) can't get off the starting block largely because they engage in self-victimization; that is, if they had a better attitude their prospects would improve (basically, they're lazy whiners). But, yes, there is a certain percentage that (almost) no matter what they …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:49 PM
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I believe sex can be a service. Or it can be some form of romantic attachment. Or it can be just an activity two (or more) consenting adults enjoy doing with each other. Or anything among or in between. "Pedestalizing" it - which is what most folks do - is assuming it should only be engaged in within the context of some societally-approved setting (eg, heterosexual relationship, marriage, etc) lest it be considered "impure."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:21 PM
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I didn't realize that men and women weren't connecting. I have no issues with the current status quo. I didn't realize there was a problem outside of reddit, which reflects some small minority of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:45 PM
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It most definitely is pedestalization. What "men say themselves" on their forums is further proof of it. Both men and women do this - it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:51 PM
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I agree with much of your original post. However... there is a certain amount of truth in this: "for a moment the self-styled financial Übermensch who strode the globe like titans were exposed as the grifters and bullshit artists they are". They weren't ALL grifters and bullshit artists but... a lot of them were/are. Our financial system is broken, as are the capital markets (see: crypto). We've been moving towards this sordid state of affairs since the mid-'90s and the Greenspan Fed. Basically,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:40 PM
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if you don't lose your virginity by a certain age you are apparently forced to be a virgin for life. This may be the case. I assume the vast majority of women aren't going to be interested in dating this guy because his circumstances are going to be very different from their own. And that's understandable. Perhaps this guy needs to find a woman with similar circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:43 PM
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A question about prior marriage(s) or kids would be a normal first date question. A discussion of sexual history would be quite unusual. In fact, in my experience (of many, many first dates, just for context) it's never come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:23 PM
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The stench of LARP was overwhelming. Anyhow, looks like he's bugging out: Honestly I’m done after this comment on this sub. "I've been found out; time to move on."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:34 PM
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My brother is in PE so I shouldn’t be talking shit. Oh, c'mon. He's probably just another "PE loser" like me. Stick to your guns here. You should explain this to him. I imagine that would be very entertaining. Which means you looked at my comments. Unnecessary. You post the same things over and over and over. And clearly you're aware of this. Honestly I’m done after this comment on this sub. Sorry, I didn't realize you were so sensitive. This is all it took to drive you away, huh - and I'm the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:29 PM
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I actually started at a hedge fund and moved over to PE. Made far more money in PE. But that can work both ways, of course. To each their own. Resorting to name calling and incivility? C'mon now. Someone in your (alleged) position should be better than that. Very odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 07:01 PM
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Well, I guess I hit a nerve. No need to worry about my time. I've been retired for ten years.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:52 PM
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You can’t beat me by any metric. I can't really keep track of the various users on here - there are just too many - but your account sticks out because of the constant beating of the same drums... hedge fund, JD/MBA, virgin Norwegian fiance, Greek wedding, etc... over and over and over and over again, often completely out of context. It's like a story you've memorized and spit out verbatim when you find a place to force it in. And posting 30... 40... 50+ times a day on reddit the week before you…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:45 PM
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we risk losing the very things that make love and relationships meaningful in the first place—commitment, romance, and the idea of "forever." Someone's been taking all of those romcoms and romantic dramas churned out by the Hollywood Industrial Complex a bit too seriously. A relationship might be deemed meaningful to two people based simply on shared interests. The notion that a relationship is only meaningful if it involves commitment, romance, and lasts forever is beyond absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:24 PM
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When promiscuity is normalized, it can cheapen the idea of relationships and make it harder for people to form deep, meaningful connections. Why must only "romantic relationships" be ones in which "deep, meaningful connections" are made? I don't see why sex is necessary for forging deep, meaningful connections. And this ties into the whole notion of romance and "forever love." We’ve all been conditioned to aspire to finding that one person who’s our soulmate, the one who we’re going to spend our…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:58 AM
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Indeed. He paid $50 for a blowjob from a street hooker on skid row. And why did Hugh feel the desire to solicit sex from this prostitute while Liz Hurley, one of the world's highest-paid models, was back in London? Simple: (1) she wasn't Liz Hurley; and (2) he knew the sum total of their interaction would not exceed 30 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:30 PM
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Same as with men who suffer from fetishes or who are mentally unwell and possess a desire to dominate and humiliate women. This is textbook pedestalization of sex. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults regardless of whether money is involved. Arguably, a decent percentage of marriages could be confused for prostitute arrangements given the importance of resources (and sacrifices accepted because of them) but most folks don't like to think about such things. Anyhow, I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:51 PM
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Two inter-related reasons: (1) Children: Most people want children, or at least think they do. Most people also want to live a little before dedicating themselves to that effort. Most people are aware that a woman's fertility beyond the age of 35 declines pretty significantly. So, partnering up between 25 and 30 allows for folks to live a little, get their house in order to prepare for kids, and then allows for time to get pregnant, etc. (2) Societal pressure: Humans are social creatures and mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 05:04 AM
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But I would say the majority of adult men (27 and older) would choose who they believe will be an amazing partner over single life. I fixed that for you. The problem, of course, is - if divorce and marital satisfaction stats are close to being accurate - that "amazing partner" is rarely so amazing measured over a lifetime. Now, if you mean amazing for a few years, as opposed to marriage, then I'm in agreement. But anyone familiar with the realities of marriage, either directly or vicariously, ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:31 AM
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I see some oddball takes on this sub, but OP's take here is truly baffling. All one has to do is go out on a Saturday night to a club, pub, restaurant, social event, etc and see... guys everywhere socializing with other guys. Most of these groups of folks are comprised of "friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:34 AM
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I imagine the "dream" is many very attractive dating options.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:54 PM
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My main point is that the percentage of men who can regularly meet a complete stranger who is a woman - and this woman is in the top 5% of attractiveness - and have sex with her that night... is so small as to not even warrant consideration. In terms of complaining about how skewed it is for "top men" in online dating... I don't see the point. To whatever extent it's true... that's life. (I don't know much about online dating, but nor do I really care about it.) If something's not working for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:31 PM
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Handsome fit men can walk up to a not overly attractive woman that’s checking him out and have her that night. I fixed that for you. The percentage of men that can regularly walk up to very attractive women (by my definition, at least) and have sex with them that night is so small they are not worth considering. (These women have lots of options and they know it - merely being very handsome/fit is rarely sufficient for sex.) The percentage of men that can do the same with modestly attractive wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:01 PM
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Possibly. I just get the impression that women here don't really care as much. I see shorter/ less attractive guys (Latinos, to be clear) with girlfriends all over the place. Is that because there aren't as many taller/more attractive guys to go around? Maybe... I don't really know. Or is there some cultural difference at work... again, I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:09 AM
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I think this is largely a US/Western Europe phenomenon. Not entirely, but largely. I've lived in Latin America for a decade and dating is not at all difficult. I was in a 10-year relationship prior to that so my serial US dating experiences are now over twenty years old. So, my experience is a jump from early-00s in the US ("normal" mode) to mid-20s in Latin America ("easy" mode), while I get the impression that most guys in the US have gone from "normal" to "difficult" over the same period. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:42 PM
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Bummer. Such is life. what can we as a society do to rectify it? Exactly zippo. Adapt... or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:15 PM
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I've been called weird several times in my life. Generally in jest, but still. I flaut society's conventions, so it's to be expected to some extent. I've always taken it as a compliment whether it was intended as such or not. Several cities (Austin, Portland and others) use the slogan, "Keep [city name] Weird." It's a harmless word.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:56 PM
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There are plenty (in absolute, not percentage, terms) of mid-40s gym-rat, diet-conscious women with cosmetic surgery that look fantastic. (I've dated some.) So, if some guy is recently-married to one of these women, then I can see your description fitting. But far less likely after a decade+ together, kids, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:41 AM
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So women are pretty much gambling when expecting a man to not cheat on her when she's old Sure, it's a bit of a gamble. But plenty of men who might otherwise desire to cheat, forgo actually doing so for at least two good reasons: (1) They can't, for all intents and purposes. They don't have the time, the opportunity, and/or they're not attractive or wealthy enough to attract someone else. It's just too difficult. That's a decent chunk of married men right there. (2) They're afraid of the ramific…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:21 AM
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In most cases, yes. Hell, she likely feels the same way about him. Humans just aren't wired to stay sexually attracted to each other after having sex thousands of times, kids, work, chores, etc etc. It's asking a lot. I suppose that's the root of the popularity of swingers clubs and the Lifestyle, etc. These folks have acknowledged the issue, want to stay together, and this is how they try to resolve the problem, for better or worse. Most folks, however, just bury the discontent until it leads t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:47 AM
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I think most men don't have an issue dating outside of their social class. The reason they tend to date/marry within their social class is simply... those are the women they, by far, come into contact with most often; your social group tends to be comprised mostly of folks within your social class. I've done both. I've never really cared about a woman's background. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:31 AM
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I've always believed in myself. I didn't realize our culture was encouraging me not to. Maybe it has been and I've just never noticed it. But I can't be that unusual. Anyhow, it's probably best for folks to produce and follow their own narrative instead of listening to the one Society tries to push upon them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 02:07 AM
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Guys that don't like the apps should stay off the apps. Over half of all relationships are still being started offline. That's a huge number. There are always going to be guys that can't figure out how to meet women. There's nothing to be done - they need to figure it out on their own. And many won't. But that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:18 AM
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Let's see... we've got a two-day old account, so you've had at least one, and likely many, accounts previously suspended by reddit. So, yes, this is clearly a brand new LARPing account. Congratulations.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:58 PM
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You are a truly terrible - albeit amusing - liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:45 PM
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This sounds like good material for a future true crime special. "Hi, this is Keith Morrison with Dateline NBC. Tonite we share the murderous tale of a jealous boyfriend..."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:27 PM
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You missed the point entirely. "King" is a metaphor in this quote. Anyone who is impressive has no need to explain it to folks. It will be obvious. If you have to explain it then illusory superiority is likely at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:20 PM
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You're trying way too hard. 6'3 9/10 almost at 10/10 6'3 9/10 6'3 9/10 10/10 with muscles This is just one day. Why not just put it in your flair if it's so important to you for people to believe this about you. Or provide a link to photos in your reddit profile. But just repeating it over and over and over is unlikely to lead to the result you desire. After all... Any man who must say he's the King is no true King.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:13 PM
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How is one "done dirty" by some woman? Give me some examples.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:04 PM
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Women don't lie to me about their sexual past because I don't ask or care about it, so it never comes up. Man, that was simple. I'm not sure how one allows a woman to "do them dirty." If a relationship isn't working out... just move on. It's a great big world out there. Edit: Wow, that was fast. OP's account suspended in less than 48 hours from opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:55 PM
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I find chaste women boring (sexually, that is), and promiscuous women exciting. Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:56 PM
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I don't think they're crying in their sleep but I do think it bothers them on some level that so many people think they're just brainiac losers. (I have no opinion - they've succeeded wildly as professionals, that's undeniable.) Look at Zuckerberg, (very publicly) taking up MMA in middle age. He knows his image is that of an unathletic nerd so - despite his status and power - he goes full-on try-hard to say, "Look at me, I'm actually a tough guy." He can earn trillions but he'll never be anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:50 AM
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I'm sure if he wanted a harem of women having his kids (at the same time) he could have this. I'm also sure it would cost many millions per woman. But, hey, he's got the money. For whatever reason, he's decided that he wants the perception of having quasi-normal serial relationships, which is ok. Different strokes and all. I feel sorry for all of his current and future kids. They're going to grow up in a world of material privilege that they'll never fully appreciate - that will warp them - and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:02 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't sharing him romantically. It appears that he's been a serial monogamist, having 12 kids with four different women, but no overlap in the relationships. Now, of course, they're all sharing his finances (nice), but he's only in a romantic relationship with his most recent partner. Would they have been willing to share him romantically? Maybe... but so far as I can tell they haven't been. Would they have been willing if he was much better looking? Much bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:03 AM
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This is the female equivalent of the guys who complain about other guys' simping for women ("Guys, y'all need to stop simping!"). Guess what... there's no dating union for men or women. People are going to do what they want regardless of what you want them to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 PM
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I have no issues whatsoever having been circumsized - erm, sorry - "genitally mutilated." I would likely choose mutilation again given the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:37 PM
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I'm 56 and single. But I'm probably in the oldest 1% on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:06 AM
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People are, to some extent, emotional (and to varying degrees). I think you'll agree with this. Emotions are, quite often, not logical. I think you'll agree with this. The foundations of relationships between people are often based on emotions as opposed to logic (generally it's a mix of both). I think you'll agree with this. Ergo... people and relationships are not math problems you can solve with logic. (Although there may be some aspects to which logic can be applied.) If relationships were m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:36 PM
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Guy wants to get married. I'm just reporting. Besides... Chad gets cheated on too. It's hard to get around the fact that ardor fades... for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:32 PM
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Personally, I think you - or anyone - is asking a lot when looking for a "life partner." I've never thought that was particularly realistic. But, it does happen from time to time, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 06:13 AM
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If you're happy - as you say you are - why not just enjoy that. There can be a lot of regret when you try to gild the lily ("be careful what you wish for"). But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:59 AM
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Fat just happens to be the majority of the middle age dating pool. Very true. You just have to date younger for the most part. Having said that, I've run into some very hot 40-somethings who are gym rats, health nuts, and pro-cosmetic surgery. I've seen some amazing results. But, admittedly, they're exceptions. this whole “Value” thing is just a PPD talking point which is pretty irrelevant among people who touch grass. Ok... but I only brought it up because you brought it up first: I know my own…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:27 AM
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A lot of that is irrelevant outside of this echo chamber of virgins. Hmm. I've found that quite a lot of women - and particularly women with options - do indeed deem a lot of those issues to be important. And I haven't been a virgin for about 40 years. I get at least a couple dozen dating app matches a week and always keep 4 to 5 women in the sex rotation. Ok, but... What am I doing wrong if 90% of my dating pool is fat and I’m not? I won’t settle down with a woman who is bigger than I am. So, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:08 AM
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I know my own value as an above average late 40’s male. Perhaps. Although there's a lot of illusory superiority out there in the world of self appraisals. Two issues. One, if you know your own value then you must be dating the women you want to date. Because that's reflective of your own value. The market dictates your dating value. Two, what is the provenance, in your view, of your "value"? You're in the late-40s, so... are you particularly handsome, fit and have a full head of hair? Are you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:59 AM
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I feel sorry for the guys, why are they sending her 100s of dollars? Because they value the fantasy. The same reason men spend money at strip clubs. I've dated a few girls that made money this way (and participated in their content). It's just too easy to do unless you're making a few hundred grand in some white collar job, which is rare. And if you're in a developing country, the incentive is even larger because the spread between this kind of job and just about any other is just enormous. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:24 PM
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All true. And yet some folks find the time and others don't. Most people, even without kids and these other responsibilities, just aren't very active.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:11 PM
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Actually, average hours worked by employed people in the US has declined from a bit over 1,900 per year in 1970 to about 1,750 per year. I think it's more the case that more folks spend their free time gaming, watching TV, screwing around on their phones/internet, etc than being active. And, of course, they consume a LOT more food.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:11 PM
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Unfortunately men have also objectively become more obese on average since boomers as well. The fittest are fitter than ever; the rest are fatter than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:19 AM
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Most people are human sloths; lazy as shit. But in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:15 AM
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its now objectively harder for white men to enter the industry. I can see that. The point is that women being disadvantaged by some "boys club" consisting of white men is an anachronism. Do you think it's as easy for a childfree woman - that is, one who puts her career first - to succeed in IB as it is for a man? Hold all other variables constant. I don't think it's anywhere near as close. Because the senior execs they have to deal with are still mostly men... who prefer to deal with other men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:40 PM
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Yes, I presume things have changed. But I don't see a problem with the current stats. Half of the world's population is women, so 53% of entry level in banking being women does not seem problematic. And some percentage of non-women are trans, minorities, etc. It looks like IB is starting to resemble the real world. Despite that, I know plenty of young white dudes in IB.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:28 PM
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I spent 20 years in PE and investment banking. I saw relatively few women in entry level positions and precious few women in senior positions. Recent stats for investment banking are here: https://www.investmentbankingcouncil.org/blog/breaking-stereotypes-womens-rise-in-investment-banking#:\~:text=Women%20held%2033%20percent%20of%20entry-level%20investing%20roles.,of%20managing-director-level%20investing%20roles%20are%20held%20by%20women. So, things are improving but this is absurd: Its hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:09 PM
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It's a factor that has an impact on whether or not other factors even matter, and if so, by how much. I agree. However, I think it's far more of a factor in OLD than otherwise. I saw some Bumble survey results on another sub and something like 75%+ of women 5'6 and under would be open to dating a guy who is 5'7. 40% - or something like that - would be open to dating a guy 5'5 and under. Two observations: (1) that ain't great, but it's not nearly as bad as some folks would have you think - that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:35 PM
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Mostly, but not entirely. Even women who don't have kids, etc and pursue a traditional work career will run into glass ceiling/boys club-related issues in certain environments. For example, it's hard to be a female senior investment banker when 90% of your potential clients are men. But, extreme examples aside, I think most of the gap is due to women's choices and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:46 PM
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Commenter I responded to was trying to avoid that fact in order to gaslight average short men that their height is not the factor that it is by comparing them to a rich and famous person as if that rich, famous person was their equal. It's possible she was just trying make a larger point using an extreme example. But I do understand the frustration with this kind of thing ("just be famous, bro"). Yes, for "average short men," height is a big factor... but it's not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:39 PM
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I think her point is that mastery of status-related skills is, in and of itself, sexually attractive. Skill in entertaining (acting/music), sports, leadership (military or business), building wealth, etc etc, for example. The greater the skill, the greater the attraction. Mastery in things like gaming, coding, math, gardening, etc, on the other hand, might be attractive to a certain subset of women, but not to a wider group as these are not really status-related skills. This is just speculation …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:02 PM
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I'm not mad at all. Just pointing out your provincial racism. It doesn't bother me in the least. I've been outside of North America. I seriously doubt this. By the way, the term "third world" has been a frowned-upon descriptor for a couple of decades now. The preferred nomenclature is "developing country."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 01:08 AM
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You're using stats on a group I didn't even specify. Exactly. Your "average wealthy" folks - your words - will have prenups at a much higher rate (than 15%). Do you think prenups can legally be written to leave one person homeless and destitute and one person rich? I do. I had such a prenup. My ex-wife was entitled to (a) what she brought into the marriage (which wasn't much), and (b) 50% of any community property acquired in both of our names during the marriage (which was nothing). Now, as it …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 12:57 AM
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People love the idea of kids. The reality of kids is much different. Especially if you have a kid (or more) that has special needs, which is becoming more prevalent. That really sucks the joy out of parenting. As the saying goes, a parent is only as happy as his/her unhappiest child. Having said that, being a parent is not unlike being a drug addict. You're addicted to the love of/for your children. It's completely illogical. Billy just ran over someone? But he's such a sweet kid! Despite his he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:12 PM
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Again... income =/= wealth And, anecdotes =/= data Data (aka "reality that exists"): 15% of new marriages involve prenups these days. https://www.newsweek.com/more-americans-are-signing-prenups-1838768#:\~:text=In%20a%202022%20Harris%20Poll%20report%2C%2015%20percent,to%20sign%20a%20prenup%20in%20the%20future%20too. yes, very "lmao"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:07 PM
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It is racist to insinuate that everyone from developing countries is classless, dumb and lacks health care. As you have. Let me guess... you've never been to a developing country nor outside of North America.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 05:01 PM
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I do my own laundry; I don't trust anyone with my clothes. Other than that, I don't do any of these things because I have a housekeeper that comes weekly and does the rest of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 04:18 AM
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I'm talking about average wealthy, like guys who make 250k-500k a year. Income isn't wealth (although, for perspective, $250k/year puts you at the 97th percentile in the US). Assets (net of debt) comprise wealth. Plenty of guys making a few hundred thousand a year don't have much wealth. Most of their income disappears into taxes and lifestyle expenses. 15% of new marriages involve prenups these days. My suspicion is that for a man with $10 million in net worth (top 1% in the US) - that's pretty…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:56 AM
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some of these wealthy men are very white and very racist. I think you're projecting. Exhibit A: They also want someone who can show up to an event looking classy. Not a 3rd world servant who can't have a conversation about current events or needs braces at 30 because she lacked healthcare in her home country. No racism there at all. None. I do loves me some irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 03:40 AM
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It's hard for me to conceive of a retail investor receiving alpha-generating trading information, prior to institutions exploiting it into worthlessness, on any regular basis. Another point of confusion is that you said you "don't trade that much," when clearly you're active with options. Anyhow, it's irrelevant. We operate in different worlds with different objectives. And that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:53 AM
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If you had a 30-fold gain in 3 months then, semantics notwithstanding, you are most certainly gambling. I saw guys get rich and blow up in the tech bubble of the late-90s. I saw LOTs of folks get rich and blow up in the late-00s real estate bubble. And I've seen folks get rich and blow up in crypto. I've never seen anyone manage to hold onto their gains, simply because it's unusual for someone to reach some objective in highly speculative markets and then lose the appetite for the very speculati…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 03:27 AM
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earlier this year i hit a 30x in three months. I would assume I'd made a horrible mistake. dopamine addiction Are you not concerned that you have a gambling addiction and that you'll just keep gambling - perhaps on different instruments and/or on different things altogether - until it all eventually goes to zero? That is, it has little to do with whatever your net worth is at any given time? i don't think any other market is as stupidly easy to print money in. I've never seen any market anywhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:52 AM
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she was worth the cost Almost all guys who get married believe this in the early stages. Obviously, a large fraction end up changing their mind. If you still believe this in 25+ years... then you made a good decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:40 AM
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I hardly even think about the markets much anymore. My career was tied to the capital markets so I didn't take a lot of investment risk (as I measured it, anyway) when I worked. But once I had my stash and retired I took even less risk. I don't see the point. If you're set for life financially... why continue to take the kind of risk that negatively impacts your quality of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:28 AM
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But I would never see anyone not-blood-related as equal to my son. They will always be less-than. This is why I liken parents' love of their children (or perhaps family, more widely) as akin to drug addiction. It's all-encompassing and leads to all sorts of otherwise irrational views (and often behavior). It's difficult to have rational conversations with parents about their kids; it's all filtered through a fog of love. How many parents say to Keith Morrison (after acknowledging their kid murde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:14 PM
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I thought almost all of those folks were broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:40 PM
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Welp, I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Perhaps you're confusing it with this article from Forbes: Based on a Forbes analysis of more than 700 U.S. billionaires, however, he’s wrong in his assumption. These ultra-rich have an average of 2.3 children, above the recent 1.93 average for average Americans, according to Statista. When you take into account only those billionaires who have kids, the average number of children jumps to 3.1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenaebarnes/2022/07/10/e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:17 PM
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Out of curiosity... how do you survive with no (apparent) source of income? Do you live with family and they support you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:50 PM
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Contemplating the sea urchin ceviche at Dorsia...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:17 PM
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Body count just means that you're sexually attractive Yes, but to whom? Any average-looking guy with sufficient desire, time on his hands, and low enough standards can pick up many very unattractive women for sex. Anytime I see guys talking about their high body count I immediately envision a bevy of not-so-attractive women. And, oddly, despite modern technology no one is ever able to provide any photos of these lovely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:39 AM
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I'm 56 and the only thing that shocks me is that people have any interest in reproducing. Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:06 PM
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I celebrate my reproductive uselessness. Practicing at reproduction - and failing at it - is one of my favorite hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:59 PM
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You didn't. You said it's a primary goal in essentially all animals and humans. If it was a subconscious goal that I had no control over... I'd have kids. So, in my case, it's been neither a subconscious or conscious goal. It's been no goal whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:48 PM
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If I had wanted to reproduce, I would have. I had/have no desire to reproduce. (I got a vasectomy in my early-30s.) I wasn't ignoring it - it was never a goal of mine at all. On the contrary, my primary goal has specifically been to not reproduce. I'm not sure where the confusion lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 09:13 PM
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I'm a human. I have no desire whatsoever to reproduce. I do enjoy practicing reproduction, however. Perhaps your sentence should read: Reproduction is an inherent primary goal of the overwhelming majority of animals as well as most humans, but not all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 08:52 PM
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Which is exactly what I said. Exactly? Please show me where you wrote them... "exactly." I can read pretty well. I even know what "exactly" means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 11:24 PM
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Actually, there's "self-stigma." But to your point... If you can live happily with it... then it's meaningless, right? I mean, who cares? I assume it's a stigma to be viewed as overly concerned with what others think of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:42 PM
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Among many other complaints about photofeeler I've never seen those two. But, hey, anything's possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:48 PM
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Ok, so the answer is "no." I'm sorry this triggered you for some reason. [If the answer was "yes," you'd just say, "Yes, I'd marry a paraplegic." Easy peasy.]
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:25 PM
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That's not what I asked. I asked (verbatim): Are you ok marrying a paraplegic? She's a paraplegic before you marry her. It's a rhetorical question. I already know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:06 PM
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There's a huge stigma There's only one stigma in this lifetime that has any meaning whatsoever: being unhappy/discontented; that is, not getting what you want out of life. Whether you're a man or woman, straight or gay, married or single, virgin or whatever... the only thing that matters is your contentment. The problem is that a lot of folks - especially here - like to project upon others those things they feel should make these others happy/content. And people are just different and want diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 09:04 PM
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On the contrary, I'm insisting nothing at all. I don't believe in self-appraisals. I just present evidence, inherently flawed though it may be. People, like yourself, can interpret that evidence however they see fit. In the end... it's not particularly relevant - as you say, "enjoy what you have." Always good advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:16 PM
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Sexual attractiveness is marriage attractiveness. I use the terms SMV and RMV interchangeably. And therein lies the confusion. Thanks for clearing that up. You sound kind of defensive. Really? That's a very odd interpretation of my comments. I agree. I generally agree Completely agree But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:56 PM
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Completely agree. But I'm trying to understand this statement: Also, an “attractive old guy” still will always have a lower SMV than an attractive young woman. Unless he has money. You've stated, very clearly here, that money increases a man's sexual attractiveness. And I thought most women here argue that's not the case. I don't really care either way... I'm just trying to make sense of your statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:12 PM
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Do you have a link to that? That doesn't sound even close to being right, especially when viewed against the (admittedly imperfect) statistica data above. But happy to be wrong. I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:06 PM
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You literally cannot change your height. WTF. You literally cannot change a physical disability. Are you ok marrying a paraplegic? If not, what kind of trash are you? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:50 PM
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It’s ridiculous to base your SMV on what a website says. I agree. But it's not completely ridiculous to base your sexual attractiveness relative to another person with ratings from the same site because the systemic errors will be mostly the same for each person, and thus cancel out. Also, an “attractive old guy” still will always have a lower SMV than an attractive young woman. Unless he has money. I generally agree; one can narrow the gap but can't really close it. Although I thought most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:48 PM
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Imperfect, as all such sites are, but about 100x better than self-appraisals. <span class="md-spoiler-text">​</span>
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 06:18 AM
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I'm 56 but photofeeler says my 28 year-old girlfriend is roughly my looksmatch (we're less than 1 point apart). Life is strange.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:58 AM
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Are you sure that's right? This chart suggests (dramatically) otherwise. Granted, it's grouping the top-5% together (and it's income, not wealth), so the top-1% might be a bit different. But that would have to be one hell of a hockey stick in the other direction, which doesn't seem likely. But if you've got a source I'd be interested to see it. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:47 AM
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And no, men who are old should date old women instead of being hypergamous. Why? Shouldn't all consenting adults - men and women, of all ages - just date who they want to date? Shouldn't these adults decide what they should be doing? Isn't it ok if "old men" want to be friends with old women, but don't want to date them? I don't want to tell women of any age what they should or shouldn't be doing; they should do whatever they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:06 AM
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I don't think it was ever cheap. But, yes, it's certainly more expensive today. Substantial capital accumulation is the first requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:43 AM
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Uh oh... I'm 56 and my current girlfriend is 28... she will be very disappointed to discover how unhealthy our relationship is. With a little luck, she'll be understanding regarding this development.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:35 AM
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People - women and men - are superficial when it comes to sex (an important part of a relationship, obviously). Would you have an existential crisis if a woman said, "Thank god you're handsome"? or "Thank god you're fit"? or "Thank god you're not disabled"? or "Thank god you have a big cock"? I see nothing wrong with men and women having exacting physical standards for a romantic relationship. Otherwise, you're just talking about being (platonic) friends, which is also great. And you can throw a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:24 AM
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I know. It's unfortunate. But women shouldn't get butthurt when men say, "I prefer fit women." Many women consider this body shaming these days. Which is equally unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:40 AM
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I don't know... "shorties" or "short kings," stuff like that. Is there anything wrong with "fat" or is that considered derogatory language these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:37 AM
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I agree 100%, however I think you'll agree that there's a double-standard that applies here. Plenty of women talk about how they have no interest in short guys (and often in very condescending terms) and they'll get plenty of support for those views. Meanwhile, if a guy says he's not interested in fat women, it's viewed as some sort of hate crime. Women not being interested in short guys is a preference; men not being interested in fat women is patriarchal body shaming. Personally, I think both …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:07 PM
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Your flair amuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:31 PM
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Hit up r/ilovefatties. I'm sure they're dying to see your photos. Pathetic? Have you spent three seconds contemplating the disaster that comprises your life? Richest irony of this thread. Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:25 PM
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I find it funny that you thought I thought you'd actually post a picture of yourself here. I knew you were bluffing - I just enjoy exposing mentally-deranged frauds like yourself. Anyhow, I'm into extremely fit women, the polar opposite of yourself. What happened to, "Dude I have no interest in further discussion with you"? You just can't get enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:08 PM
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Comical. Hookers who don't receive money for their services... perhaps with your extensive experience you should explain to them how the business is supposed to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:51 PM
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I understand it irks you that the wider public disagrees with you. Hence all those beautiful women. Weak? C'mon now. I'm fitter than 90% of 30-year old men. You can do much better than that. I guess you're interested in further discussion after all. Glad to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:37 PM
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Dude, I completely understand. You've got important things to address. Cats, video games, party-size doritos, mental disorders, etc. You should probably get back to them. Dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:16 PM
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I wistfully wonder how many times this exact same topic will be brought up here. I further wonder what the provenance of OP's bizarre obsession with this topic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:00 PM
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Well, of course, because it's independent and contradicts your desired narrative. You don't believe in anything that doesn't fit your preconceived beliefs. As you've already admitted, you have serious mental issues. It's the reason your powers of perception are those of a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 07:13 AM
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You're generally paying the nanny to do the dirty work so you can enjoy with them the "quality time." I never had kids - thank god - but that's what I would've done. Wiping noses, preparing meals, driving kids around... no thanks. Life's too short.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:42 AM
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Women can "have it all" in terms of children and work, but... they need to be in the top 2% of earners and be able to afford a full-time nanny. And also probably have a husband or ex-husband that's also wealthy. You can "have it all" - it's just very expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:10 AM
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Wrinkles... and gray hair. And yet... still... 8.6. It's just nuts. Meanwhile, back in your basement... a life of cats, video games, fat rolls, hypothyroidism, bipolar depression and stacks of three cheese burritos. The fates have dealt you a cruel hand. I now totally understand your desire for anonymity. I shouldn't have egged you on. Life is so unjust.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 08:48 PM
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Old... wrinkly... and 8.6. I know - life ain't fair. Don't be a hater. I'm sure if photofeeler had a rating for fat rolls you'd be 8.6 too. Maybe even a 9 with another nacho cheese platter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 04:10 PM
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Well, I don't think most women are doing that. Some are, sure. But most aren't. And for those that are... I simply don't care. To each their own - different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:26 PM
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Yes, please post the vienna sausage quote. I missed it. This is one of the most bizarre - albeit amusing - exchanges I've ever seen on reddit. And that's saying something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:22 PM
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Gen z has realized the boomer mentality of school->college->marriage-> kids -> retiree I'm a Gen Xer and I realized long ago that this was a road to misery. Ditch the marriage and kids part and live a life of adventure - you only go around once. I know, I know... "You just never grew up!" No. And thank the gods for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:41 PM
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Has she had any of the 6' tall, cream of the crop men in her past, even if just one? I think women eating a Five Guys cheeseburger are enjoying it quite a lot and not dreaming of that Flemings steak they eat once a year. One can enjoy both Five Guys and Flemings; they are not mutually exclusive. One does not have to have the absolute best of everything 100% of the time to lead a happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:34 PM
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It's a popular looks-rating site referenced often here on reddit. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/sunx90f2pq9oaoe5j9vk5/PF01.png?rlkey=df7r0cl3m7qrz74l7p85evi0k&st=k2gmp18z&dl=0 My bad... it averaged 8.6. I guess beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder(s). Lol ur delusional Apparently not. In the least. Anything else you'd like to be provably wrong about? "Lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:08 PM
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Wrinkly... old... and an 8.4 on photofeeler. I know, I know... I can't explain it either. But there it is. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:51 PM
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Nope. Too late. I'm a cutie Step away from the keyboard and that bag of funyuns, and hit the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:00 PM
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I think you mean super-sized. Life lesson: Any woman who describes herself as "hot" might be cute. Any woman who describes herself as a "cutie" is likely overweight and unattractive. It's called illusory superiority.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:48 PM
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No, I know you're never going to post a picture here. Ever. I've known it from the beginning of this discussion. Because you're not a cutie. It's obvious. "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:31 PM
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Which is perfect because you're too unattractive... "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:25 PM
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Good thing it was private. I bet that was a real horror show. Prove me wrong. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:20 PM
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It actually is funny and sad - but for the opposite reason you believe. You see, I use those photos routinely here on reddit to expose frauds like yourself. The resulting butthurt and whining - like yours - is quite amusing, actually. In fact - note to self - I should probably update that album. You've built up quite a life for yourself as a LARPing mega-posting charlatan here on reddit. Folks like you are the cornerstone of amusement on this site. Don't ever stop. Thank you for your service! 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 05:16 PM
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C'mon, this is beneath you. Tens of millions of people post hundreds of millions of photos/videos on facebook, instagram, TikTok, etc every single day. And the "creepy incels" you're afraid of can see those photos as well, apparently with statistically zero repercussions. So let's cut the BS. I get it. You're unattractive. It embarrasses you. You were never going to post a photo. You just didn't expect anyone to call your bluff. End of story. "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:10 AM
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Are you mentally challenged? My age, your age, the Sun's age, the price of tea in China... all have nothing to do with your unwillingness to post a photo here in this thread after you said: post a pic first then \<sup>\</sup><sup>That</sup> was you. I posted a pic first. Now it's your turn. Right here in the thread. Just as I did. No one's age - including the Pope's nor the President's - has anything to do with this. Of course, if your unattractive and embarrassed about it - which is what I assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 06:39 AM
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I'm not asking you to send it to me. Post it here. Just as I did. "lol"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 04:57 AM
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You do it for yourself. No one else. And yet, if you, personally, are happy with the results, it might be surprising how many other folks (yes, including women) are happy with them as well. Not always, of course, but... it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:07 AM
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You receive a fairly sincere comment and this is how you respond? Jesus.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:49 AM
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What's the problem here? Obviously you see the pictures. If you're reneging because you're unattractive you can say so. It's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:37 AM
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You post a pic first then. Done. Again, your turn to post a pic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:29 PM
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I don't know why you're engaging in all of this unnecessary back-and-forth with u/rejected-again when you can just post a few of your photos, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/xsy6hq9wkcbu9dv3q5vma/h?rlkey=8ly9h37y16hjjinften7212jw&st=c9gxli0d&dl=0 And then an ID selfie, like this: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/cysyimtwjovq93ncgq5aa/slazengerx.jpg?rlkey=bg7ymrfxgfwt36shtqhoqzt9b&st=wmm7i0q2&dl=0 Then you're done. Proof provided. Point made. Easy peasy. Otherwise, it just looks like anot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:35 PM
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If you consistently go after women young enough to be your daughter, you'll deal with your share of brutal rejections. If they don't find you attractive, yes. Most guys 45+ have not held up well. But there are exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:03 AM
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Ok, how about... societal collapse is the norm over human history. Historically, it has taken an average of 250 years for societies to decline and fall. I'm not sure why our current civilization should be any different. Although I have no clue on the timing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:24 PM
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we are heading towards the collapse of civilization. 99%+ of all species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. Why should humans be any different? It's the way of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:36 PM
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You should try listening even when it’s something you don’t want to hear It is very difficult to get someone to listen to something when doing so will diminish their position as a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:31 PM
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Exactly. Many of the forever aloners exhibit the dreaded combination of illusory superiority (they think they're better than they are) and projection (they think a large percentage of folks are in the same boat as them). Basically, "if I'm struggling (and I'm "average"), everyone's struggling." But it's just not the case as "everyone can observe with their own eyes."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:14 PM
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True but... at least the facebook, etc LARPers are using their real identities/photos/videos/etc. There's some link to reality, however vague. Reddit LARPers, on the other hand, just make things up out of whole cloth from whatever emerges from their little brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:20 PM
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From what I can gather, folks are anonymous on reddit (as opposed to Facebook, etc) for one or more of the following reasons: (1) they're afraid their views will be found out by others (family, friends, employers) and shame will ensue, (2) this is a venue where they can be uncivil to people with no repercussions (mainly, shame), and/or (3) they have sad pitiful lives and reddit allows them to LARP with impunity. And then some folks are just lazy, which I can totally understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:59 AM
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Nearly all men complaining online about "women's standards" should probably just accept that this is the way it is. The hows, whys and whats are irrelevant. The market is the market. What men feel they "deserve" is irrelevant. And complaining about it will achieve nothing. But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:14 PM
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Diseases and abortions and condoms. I'm not going to imagine what these women look like. But again, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:17 PM
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have slept with 500-1000 women. Uff... sex with condoms. I can stomach once or twice before getting tested but... hundreds of different women with condoms sounds like a lot of less-than-mediocre sex. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:54 PM
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Many marriages remain intact solely because it's too expensive and complicated to terminate them. They morph into sexless business arrangements. And, frankly, a lot of married folks deteriorate so much physically that they don't have many good sexual options outside the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:29 PM
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You only eat at one restaurant? Sorry, but this I don't believe. What is it called?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:46 AM
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Guys who are already desired, and are secure in the knowledge that they are desirable enough to not be at constant risk of being out bid, have the security to settle down and not fear that it will be a waste. But these guys are generally "outbid" - to use your terminology - as well, eventually. Because in the vast majority of cases women get tired of having sex with the same guy - choose whatever greek letter you like - and vice versa. There really isn't much "attraction security" in these marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:48 PM
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that’s really what it’s all about for some people Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:30 PM
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it’s more out of necessity than design Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:13 PM
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I agree. But in many cases there is an implicit understanding that sex is contingent upon supporting the family unit. Again, marriages often end up in the same place from a functional standpoint despite following a different route.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:48 AM
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And the terms of marital intimacy are implicity set often. And in these cases: Terms - whether explicit or implicit - are set; it's transactional. You can put a different label on it but if ultimately you end up in the same place (that is, with terms)...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:09 AM
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And yet many men choose to get circumsized as adults and are happy with the results. Apparently the incidence of negative complications is less than 2%. https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/getting-circumcised-adult-affects-sex-141700516.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall Did you create this new account because reddit suspended your last one? That would certainly fit with your rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:46 PM
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Your parents made you sexually dysfunctional What are the symptoms of this "sexual dysfunction" you're rambling on about? I can't think of any I've ever experienced. But, by all means, educate me about my sexual history. For what it's worth: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201510/does-circumcision-reduce-men-s-sexual-sensitivity The researchers concluded: "Male circumcision has no adverse effects on sexual function, sensation, sensitivity, satisfaction, or pleasure, especia…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:29 PM
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I'm quite pleased with my genital mutilation. I'm glad I was circumcized when I was a baby. Different strokes and all, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:10 PM
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I adore these types of threads where we always assume the world exists in a black and white binary. You’re either high T, aggressive and masculine or you’re low T and feminine. You’re either an Alpha fucks or you’re a beta buxxs. You’re either spinning plates or you’re a cuck simp. You’re either rolling in pussy or you’re an incel. Yes. This sub is chock full of False Dilemma fallacies (among many others) that very rarely get called out. Of course if one of the Rules of this sub was "No use of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:02 PM
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This is a distinction without much of a difference. The wife, after all, eventually (later in the relationship) sets the terms for intimacy. I'm not sure why the timing of the setting of such terms by the woman matters much in this comparison. Terms - whether explicit or implicit - are set; it's transactional. Obviously not all relationships are like this. But a whole lot are. The only substantive difference is how they get labeled. "Marriage," for example, is ok in Society's eyes; "Sugar baby" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:46 PM
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I don't really know. I don't think self-appraisals regarding one's looks (among many other things) are particularly objective due to illusory superiority. But if history is any indication, it's possible that I meet a lot of women's minimum threshold for (overall) looks - height notwithstanding - after which interpersonal characteristics, etc come into play. But that's just a guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:35 AM
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I don't really know how well it "works." I know it's worked for me one time, which is not a large sample size. And I'd think it would work for others given what I see around me, but... who knows. Again, I wouldn't recommend it to you if all you're interested in is the female angle but... hey, to each their own. This is me (and she's down toward the bottom): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/xsy6hq9wkcbu9dv3q5vma/h?rlkey=8ly9h37y16hjjinften7212jw&e=1&dl=0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:02 AM
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I don't disagree with this but it begs a question. What is the functional difference - in terms of intimacy - between a sugar baby relationship and a marriage in which the male is the sole provider and the female is principally in the relationship because of his ability to foot the bill for her and children? If we expand the definition of "sugar baby relationship" to include this latter group... that gets to be a pretty decent percentage of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:57 AM
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I'm 5'7 and met my current girlfriend at a dog rescue event. (Which is anecdotal, of course.) I've been involved in dog rescue for about five years now and I can confirm that there are a lot of attractive, nice, single women involved in animal rescue. It's a female-dominated activity. I don't think it's a great strategy to get involved in animal rescue in order to meet women, but if you're already interested in it, it probably can't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:48 AM
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Contemplate your favorite restaurant. Now imagine all the times you ate at other restaurants that weren't your favorite. Did you dream of eating at your favorite restaurant while eating at all of these "backup" restaurants? Did you gag at your first bite? ("Favorite Restaurant I damn thee for being so tasty and not within my reach for every single meal!!") I'm very surprised you even bother to eat at all if it's not at your favorite restaurant. The horror...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:57 PM
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Simple. Ask to see photos of him and prior girlfriends. In this day and age he should have hundreds or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:27 PM
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True indeed. There are so many beautiful - albeit painfully shy - people on this sub. It's amazing, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:14 AM
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Most heterosexual men, if it were realistically possible, would have several very attractive women that they had regular fulfilling sex with. The challenge is that this presents all sorts of problems - and you touched on some of these - not the least of which is the risk of pregnancy and disease. (Sex with condoms is a major drag.) But there's also time management, juggling these different women, possibly finances, etc etc. Most men don't have this option at all because they're just not attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:12 AM
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We never see photos of these self-proclaimed Chads. How odd. Why would a true Chad feel the need to be anonymous. Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:45 PM
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I'd say can be considered a good catch rather than is considered a good catch. A lot, aside from fitness, can still go wrong with older guys, as with everyone else, to put them into the "not a good catch" bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:07 PM
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men’s brain are bigger Check out the big brain on Brad! That's right. The metric system. [Already addressed in Pulp Fiction.]
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:57 PM
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Yeah dude, actually it's more than ok. I'm quite happy with my circumstances. If I wasn't, I'd change them. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:29 PM
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Unfortunately, "not be obese" is not sufficient for me. She's gotta be quite fit for a 25 year old, regardless of age. Women can do it but it takes discipline. But, obviously, it's much harder for older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:27 PM
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Occasionally yes but generally no. I mostly know when she's not going to be familiar with some reference and I just explain it first and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:24 PM
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Over the last ten years I've (56M) dated women in their late-20s to early-40s. My current girlfriend is 28. I don't really have an age preference but I've seen precious few women beyond their mid-40s that I'm physically attracted to. But they're out there. I've found the biggest issue to be fitness. I don't really care about a few wrinkles. But it's pretty unusual to find a woman past her mid-40s that's really fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:19 AM
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A life of adventure doing the things I enjoy doing. Sometimes with a partner, sometimes not. Eventually... death via euthanasia once my health gets too bleak to enjoy life. So far, so good.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:45 AM
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Lifelong romantic love - as propagated by the Hollywood Industrial Complex and Marriage Industrial Complex - is extraordinarily rare. The hottest humans in the world will get tired of having sex with each other. That's just our wiring. But I think lifelong friendship love does happen more often. I was in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years. The romantic love evaporated over time but we're still very close friends. We still love each other, we just don't want to have sex with each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:36 AM
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No attractive men settle down? Literally none? I see this happening quite often. I can't really relate to the reasoning but this happens a lot. I think "literally" has a different meaning than you believe. I would describe dating as pretty good, actually. I think your statement needs a qualifier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:27 PM
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I’m pretty much what you consider a chad Any man who must say he's the King is no true King.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:19 PM
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I surmise that happiness and contentment for both women and men (regardless of one's pill persuasion) are derived from having three things: (1) Health - absent good health, nothing else matters a whole lot (2) Good relationships - a group of family and/or friends that you enjoy socializing with, and a significant other* that you're very attracted to and vice versa, including a fulfilling sex life (3) Control over your time - you don't answer to anyone, or if you do it's minimal; you have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:48 AM
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How does one become an Empire Queen on a serf's finances? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:11 PM
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Arguably, having kids and requiring marriage to be in a relationship is selfish. Whenever you ask someone why they want to be married or have kids, the answer begins with, "Well, I want..." Yes, you want. Because you're selfish. I'm not sure where courage plays into any of this. I don't believe in lifetime romantic love and I have no interest in children. So, I'm not sure in what way it's cowardly to not want to get married or have kids. Frankly, most people are shit at marriage and even worse a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:25 AM
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Combining two logical fallacies - straw man and false dilemma - in one sentence is impressive. That's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:28 PM
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Did you build that straw man all by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:54 PM
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Agree completely. But if folks want to roll the dice... who am I to convince them otherwise. I say, best of luck. It's just not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:34 PM
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Exactly. Which is still a relationship. If a romantic relationship is "real" only if it exhibits "commitment, shared lives" (using your bespoke criteria) and lasts a lifetime (so, essentially a marriage or domestic partnership) then I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on what the term "real" means. Which is ok - to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:30 PM
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Having an exit plan prior to entry is always a good idea. Better safe than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:13 PM
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Then I suppose I'll have to put in a good word for extended, years-long flings. I'm a fan.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:11 PM
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real relationships aren't fun and exciting. It's a lot of grinding at work, paying bills, filing taxes, unclogging toilets and other assorted tedium. This sounds like marriage or some form of domestic partnership where you're living together and/or have kids together which, yes, look miserable most of the time. I think you can have a "real" relationship without marriage, living together, combining finances, or kids. I've had many of them. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:41 PM
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And women get tired of fucking the same guy regardless of their greek letter status. And vice versa. An eternal dilemma for all of the greek letters and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:31 PM
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Exactly, when you're simping you're basically being submissive to the target of your simping: a girl, celebrity, e-girl, etc, just as the definition implies. It's a distinction without much difference. I'd argue that where men are concerned, being labeled submissive is a derogatory description in most cases, although not always. If they mean close to the same thing, as I suggest, then there won't be 10 examples of where this isn't the case... because they're basically the same. So I'd ask you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:02 PM
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This is a distinction without much of a difference. I think most guys who use this term do mean it to suggest the target of their ire is being submissive even if it's situational. I suspect most folks who complain about simps and simping are really just projecting. These guys don't simp for women (or at least say they don't) but rather simp in all sorts of other parts of their lives; eg, they have bosses/jobs they simp for, friends they simp for, they try to follow many of Society's norms to fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:19 PM
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Outside of fantasy (that is, the Hollywood Industrial Complex) this sounds miserable. People - even attractive, charming people - get tired of each other. Familiarity breeds contempt; variety is the spice of life. I've never had any interest in "growing old" with another woman in a romantic context. But a lifelong friendship, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:33 PM
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Not a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:38 AM
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A couple of months back you said you had met your dream girl here on reddit and you were getting married. What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:07 PM
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They don’t want to admit they are vulnerable and gullible But they'll whine and cry when they get taken advantage of... without admitting they're vulnerable and gullible. Of course, women engage in the same pretzel logic hypocricies... they're just different ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:43 PM
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I don't use discord. You can abide by rules here and not be anonymous. It's not that complicated. You're choosing to be anonymous. Your non-anonymity will have nothing to do with getting banned here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:56 PM
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Incorrect. Self-doxxing is not allowed in certain (very few) subs on reddit. PPD is not one of them. I've been non-anonymous on reddit for 7 years, zero issues. You realize that there are places for personal links on every reddit profile, yes? So, no need for anonymity here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:36 PM
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He says... anonymously. Very brave.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:21 PM
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I agree with this. I think I'm typical is this regard. I don't really care about effort (unless it's a friend I'm encouraging). Only results matter. Having said that, typically - although not always - the fit women are the ones putting in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:08 AM
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the more shallow the man, the more deeply insecure he is I've never really thought about this. I'm pretty shallow where a woman's looks are concerned (where sex, specifically, is concerned, to be clear) but I'm pretty sure my friends would classify me as among the least insecure people they've ever met. I'm not saying you're wrong, generally, however. I don't really know.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:05 PM
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you are only as attractive as people think you are Yes. The problem with most folks in this respect is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority People generally aren't very objective regarding things like their looks. there is no such thing as an objective equivalent Agreed, but... there are approximate equivalents, or rough guides. If I give a hundred different women pictures of a hundred different men and tell them to place these men into quintiles of attractiveness, there's going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:39 PM
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“When an individual has had sex with their partner over the course of many, many years, it takes creativity and openness to keep things fresh and exciting.” Indeed, and regardless of all of that fresh and exciting effort (which I agree is a good thing)... According to Christopher Ryan of Psychology Today, the constant drain in libido men will experience over the course of a relationship is the product of staying with the same woman, monogamously, for too long. I suspect you're not old enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:12 PM
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This is an excuse and it needn't necessarily happen. Science has its own views: https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/science-behind-hard-sleep-person-forever/950751 Content? Yes. Happy? No. Our ancestors ate grain and bland meat and they were content with it. It doesn't mean they were happy. I'd argue that happiness is not sustainable; it's a temporary condition of pleasure or enjoyment (say, after sex or a great meal). Contentment, on the other hand, is a state of satisfaction that exists between …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:55 PM
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most men cannot face the truth that most men aren't really sexually attractive to women. Almost everyone, both male and female, both high-value and low-value (whatever those mean), becomes sexually unattractive (or considerably less attractive) to their partner with the sufficient passage of time. In redpill parlance, Chad gets tired of sexing up Stacy and vice versa... eventually. Exactly like the "lesser" mortals. People in relationships, regardless of initial attraction and status, get tired …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:41 PM
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I wouldn't care if he hit on her. And while I wouldn't encourage it, I wouldn't really care if she slept with him (as long as he used a condom). Two rules: no babies and no diseases. But, she'd have to realize that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I suspect that one reason some women don't cheat is that they're afraid their SO would want to do the same, and it's not worth the trade-off in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:46 PM
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Only two really hard and fast rules: no babies and no diseases. (I've had a vasectomy, so no one's getting pregnant by me.) So if she has a baby... all the best but our dating relationship has concluded. Perhaps we can remain friends. Do I encourage women I date to go out and fuck around? Of course not. But do I really, really care? Not particularly. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults, with appropriate precautions. I don't pedestalize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:31 AM
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I don't mind promiscuous women at all. Experience is life's greatest teacher. But I might be unusual in that regard. Where "most" men are concerned, you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:19 AM
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