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In most cases, yes, but I don't know what that has to do with anything. She only has sex with him because she doesn't want to lose the material/social benefits associated with the marriage, nor deal with any custody-related issues. The value of these various things she wants to maintain is up for debate (and subjective), but... she's only having sex to maintain them. I'm fine with this, by the way - I could not care less. And Society is ok with it. What I find amusing, however, is that Society i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:37 PM
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but that does not retroactively turn the entire marital arrangement into a commercial sex transaction. Christ on a crutches, another straw man... I never said it "retroactively" turned the marital arrangement into a sex transaction. It probably started out with good intentions from both parties. What I'm saying is that it turns the current arrangement into a sex transaction: sex in exchange for security and comfort. Calling it “occasional sex work” erases the distinction between financial depend…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/26 07:16 PM
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You are equating “sex and money exist in a relationship” with “every relationship is a form of sex work”. No, not in the least. That's quite a straw man you've built there. There are plenty of relationships in which the financial obligations are shared quite equally. I was speaking to a very specific relationship that is, however, not all that uncommon. Unfortunately most men make this mistake, and have a hard time differentiating between a SAHM and a SW. Nope. Also incorrect. Again, I'm speakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 10:05 PM
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If she's having sex to keep the marriage, then i would say she is having sex for survival. Isn't that what most sex work is? I'm not disagreeing with you here but, again, both of these situations seem obviously transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:52 PM
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Ok, but... if (1) is a sex worker... isn't (2) as well? They're both only having sex in exchange for material benefits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:38 PM
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[Copied from above] I'm not disagreeing with you, but... explain the day-to-day/transactional difference between these two women: (1) A woman who is in a long-term monogamous relationship (which includes sex) with an unmarried man in which he pays her (let's say $5,000 a month just to pick a number). She is not overly attracted to the man and the sex is mostly just a requirement for the arrangement. Otherwise, she gets along fine with him on a personal level. (2) A stay-at-home mom who has two k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:36 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you, but... explain the day-to-day/transactional difference between these two women: (1) A woman who is in a long-term monogamous relationship (which includes sex) with an unmarried man in which he pays her (let's say $5,000 a month just to pick a number). She is not overly attracted to the man and the sex is mostly just a requirement for the arrangement. Otherwise, she gets along fine with him on a personal level. (2) A stay-at-home mom who has two kids with her husband…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 08:34 PM
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"There have been a lot of new dating trends to emerge in the past 12 months, from sober dates to 'bae-realing' and conscious-swiping. But next year will see the rise of a brand new craze amongst singletons - age-gap romances." https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/sex-relationships/relationships/age-gap-relationships-set-boom-31452658 There are many more of this ilk. Who to believe...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 06:25 PM
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Yeah, I saw that. Comment stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/26 03:08 PM
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We've got an unattractive cat lady with no tv who doesn't find any man attractive in person. Hey, I love it. Archetypal PPD poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 10:52 PM
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Google is your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/26 06:36 PM
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Hey, that's great. I have no dog in this fight as I don't allow society to dictate to me what is an acceptable behavior. It doesn't explain, however, why age gap relationships - outside of marriage, that is - are on the rise. Apparently age gaps have been shrinking very slightly over time where marriage is concerned. I don't pretend to know what it all means, nor do I really care. I just find these discussions - and particularly the outrage - highly amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 07:16 PM
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It's truly amazing what these guys have accomplished - socially, financially, artistically, etc - despite being Creepy Weirdo Losers. It's almost as if so few people share your view that it's... completely irrelevant. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:58 PM
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Note to self... all of the following are Creepy Weirdos: Brad Pitt, George Clooney, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Statham, Harrison Ford, Michael Douglas, Matthew McConaughey, Bruce Willis, Jeff Goldblum, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Chris Evans... I could go on and on and on. They're everwhere, I tell ya. This Creepy Weirdo designation is starting to look downright complimentary; dare I say, aspirational.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/26 06:15 PM
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It seems that "feminine wiles" often result in power imbalances but they're rarely mentioned because they can't be measured as precisely as money, education, age, etc. It seems quite common for men to be taken advantage of financially by attractive (younger?) women. (Contemplate all of these naive men sending billions, cumulatively, to their parasocial girlfriends on onlyfans, etc.) I have no issue with this power imbalance, by the way - hey, you use what you have at your disposal - but you rare…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 08:09 PM
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Most attractive, charming, wealthy guys are getting into relationships other attractive, charming wealthy women. ...Even if the girl is a making minimum wage, if she’s with a wealthy man, she usually will be from a wealthy family herself... I don't disagree. But I'm not talking about "most," I'm talking about the exceptions which, based on my experience, are many and varied. I've known several guys who ran into this issue and it was always a bit tricky to address. Even if she's from an upper-mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 07:08 PM
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Most men aren't very wealthy (by definition). Forget about baristas and minimum wage earners, there are professionals that need to live with roommates in big cities. The question remains unanswered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 02:53 PM
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leading with their wallet How does a wealthy guy - assume he's attractive, charming, etc - date a normally-employed woman anywhere in the world without some degree of finances being involved? I'm genuinely curious. Let's say he's dating some normally-employed woman and he wants to go to Saint-Tropez for a week, first class all the way. How does he broach the topic with his girlfriend... "Hey, I'd love for you to come to Saint-Tropez with me and it's going to cost you about $25,000 all-in... are …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 03:55 AM
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I simply don't know why people bother describing themselves and/or their friends on the internet. That's what photos are for. There are literally billions of them all over the internet. If someone wants to know what I look like I just say, click on the link in my reddit profile. Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:40 AM
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My friends are gorgeous Familiarity Bias and Friendship Bias are alive and well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/26 12:27 AM
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Three questions: (1) Have you ever had a relationship with one of these 100% desire women? (2) Why did it end? (3) Do you not realize that the 100% will fade over time as she gets bored of sex with you? [And (3) begs the question as to why you need to start at 100% to begin with, as it's always going to decline anyway.]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 03:13 PM
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If people - men or women - want to be delusional, I'm fine with it. In fact, I encourage it as it's quite amusing. I thought that was reddit's raison d'etre.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 03:29 PM
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My teens were better than my 20s, my 20s were only ok, my 30s were far, far better than my 20s, I was in a long relationship in my 40s, and my 50s have been far better than (even) my 30s. The biggest factor in each case: my social network, which has changed (and generally improved) a lot over time as I've moved around.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 02:35 PM
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Fake equivalence And you meant false equivalence. But anyway...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/26 05:25 AM
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Our resident Esther Vilar fan is back... with a new user name. What a surprise. Were you banned and now you're starting anew? I can't remember whether this is your third or fourth account in the last few years. I will never understand this. But it will always be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 11:47 PM
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you've attempted to extend to something that has far deeper personal and social meaning For you, maybe. But I agree with OP. In my opinion - that is, to me, personally - sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. If you and others choose to assign "deeper personal and social meaning" to it, that's fine. But many folks don't. Which is also fine. The question is why so many folks ascribe this "deeper personal and social meaning" to sex, and I'd argue it's largely evolution, religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/26 12:06 AM
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I had fun as a teen and young adult, pretty fun time even during my working years, and even more fun after I retired (in my mid-40s). The last decade has been by far the best of my life mainly because I've had both the time and resources (and no wife or kids) to do whatever I wanted - travel, date, compete in sports, make music, philanthropy, etc etc - without answering to anyone. My contentment level now is far higher than when I was a teen and had to go to school, work and had limited money or…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 03:46 PM
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I'm struggling to understand what, exactly, is a "passport bro." Which of the following (common scenarios) qualify: Guy has a job in the US and uses his month of annual vacation time to travel to developing nations and meet women. Doesn't speak the local languages. Has no social ties to the countries. Uses dating apps, translator apps, and pays the women for dates/sex. But is willing to explore marriage and bring her back to the US if he finds the right one. Same as (1) above but doesn't pay the…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 08:40 PM
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If men want to play in the sandbox of younger women, they're going to have to be exceptional. Unless they're just paying, which is also fine, but comes with its own set of issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:51 PM
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The issue isn't age, for the most part, it's appearance; age, per se, is a red herring. The reality is the overwhelming majority of people - men and women - age poorly. Because they don't take care of themselves (and have poor genetics). Past 40 most people's looks decline rapidly and by 50 it's Welcome to Toiletville. When women say they aren't attracted to "old men" what they're really saying is they're not attracted to fat, bald, pasty, hairy, wrinkly, inactive men. Which describes most old m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 03:27 PM
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Don't marry or cohabitate. Don't stick around if the sex goes south. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/26 05:36 AM
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Let's take it a step further. If she'll only stay with you because you're going to marry her (or are married to her) then she must not be that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:23 AM
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The thing about all 'pills' is that they do not explain you the whole world, they explain your reality. This is not pointed out enough. If you're a "sub-3" male, for example, hardly any amount of red or blue pilling activities is going to help your sexual/relationship options a lot. The world may as well be black pilled for you (but nothing is impossible, of course). But once you get above that, you will see examples of red and blue pill "successes" (and failures)... as well as those of black pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 07:09 PM
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a lot of women (me included) find only 1-2% of men attractive. So, purely out of curiosity - applying some simple math - do you (and these other many women) just not date? Or do you/they date men they don't find attractive? (For perspective, I'm probably at 3%. I won't date anyone I don't find extremely attractive.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/26 05:12 PM
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This sub is in my top-5 most amusing. I mean the flairs alone... comedy gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:26 PM
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What about the norm, which is she had regular sex with him in the beginning of the marriage but after kids, work, stress, both getting out of shape, etc... sex just got boring? This happens all the time. People aren't mind readers or futurists. Sometimes things just change over time. Don't get me wrong, I have zero interest in marriage. But I don't expect people - men or women - to know what their sex lives are going to be like in 10 or 20 years after a lot of life happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 10:55 PM
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I don't care about romance novels but, for the record, there's an entire genre called "non-consensual dark romance": https://www.goodreads.com/shelf/show/dark-non-con-abuse I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 04:00 PM
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I guess no 20-year old woman has ever loved a man and later despised him...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 03:45 AM
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If you want lifetime anything-of-value, you work on it for your entire life. If you want to be healthy for your entire life, you work on it for your whole life. If you want to be exceptional at a sport or activity, you work on it for your entire life. Etc. I don't see an issue here. Embrace the journey.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:12 PM
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58, zero, I've been dating a woman for about two years. Generally, however, I only approach women who I meet through my social network. The success rate has been very high. I don't bother with online dating or women who don't know someone I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 06:43 PM
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That doesn't have to do with looks then. It got boring because I didn't find her attractive anymore. And she looked almost the same as she did when we met. She was a personal trainer. She looked great to others. There's the old saying, For every hot woman out there, there's a guy who's tired of fucking her. And it cuts both ways. Variety is the spice of life, etc. I mean, I'm not being critical, but it sounds like you just went through a dying bedroom situation then tried to start over with new …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:41 AM
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The funny thing about looks is that when you see someone every day, they still look the same as the day you met in many respects. This has not been true for me. To use just one example, I was in a relationship for over a decade. The sex got pretty boring towards the end. It was no one's fault. It's the norm with the passage of time. We're still close friends. Hell, look in the mirror. You probably still see yourself as a teenager or 20 something year old in some respects. No, I don't. In some wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:52 PM
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I like to debate Then no need to use the term "debate."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:25 PM
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Which has absolutely nothing to do with my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:08 PM
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If you enjoy proper debate then you'd know using ad hominems like "loser" is a logical fallacy and earns you an early loss in Debate 101. Your point may very well be correct - I have no opinion - but I always chuckle when people bring up the subject of "debate" on reddit and then display clearly that they don't know how to actually engage in it properly. If that's pedantic, well, guilty as charged.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:05 AM
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So, it's not (entirely) a myth; it's mostly a myth. That's a distinction with an important difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:42 PM
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My dating life in my 50s has been by far my best. Of course I was in a decade-long relationship during my 40s so it's impossible to know what dating would have been like then. This is all anecdotal of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 05:21 PM
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I thought paying prostitutes for sex was simping. Have I got that wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 03:48 AM
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I'm confused. A lot of folks here would have me believe that buying a woman dinner - even in the context of a relationship - is simping. This is part of the challenge with all of the pill-related discussions - the definitions of terms are dependent upon the person using them. Kind of like religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 12:58 AM
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So, someone religious or a guy with few other options. I don't know who else would put up with this interminable job interview vetting process. I don't see how folks can even begin to discuss "commitment, the future, and sexual exclusivity" before they've had sex. But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 04:11 AM
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This man's self-appraisal of himself, or one or more of these characteristics, is likely biased. Or he's just incredibly unlucky, in which case... life's not fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 04:18 PM
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In Columbia, prostitute parties? Well, I'm not sure which Columbia you're referring to. But while I'm sure there are some prostitutes at these parties - in Colombia - the overwhelming majority of women that attend these parties work on the internet, if they work in the adult entertainment industry at all, that is. But, yes, there are prostitute parties in Colombia. I've heard some stories but never actually been to one. So youre contention is that girls in sex work like anal more? My contention …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:50 PM
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Oh why do you say that? What world do you live in? I've lived in Latin America for over 12 years. For the last six years I've lived most of the year in Colombia. Among my social network are a guy that does promotional/admin work for e-girls (instagram, tiktok, onlyfans, etc) as well as a cosmetic surgeon. I don't think you can fathom the parties these guys throw. I've been asked many times by their clients to do amateur porn. I've accepted from time to time. That's the world I live in. I'm not e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 03:59 AM
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Straw manning aside, I don't bring it up nor do I force it upon them. They initiate (or ask), which is the first clue that they enjoy it. I suspect I live in a very different world than you. I'm not sure why you're so emotional about this as it clearly has nothing at all to do with you. Live and let live, right; well, or judge and have a fit. Either is ok by me. Edit: spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:45 AM
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No, I just come across a lot of them, fortunately; there are just a lot of them in my social network. I don't think they feel it's degrading, just pleasurable. Or if they do feel it's degrading, they happen to derive pleasure from that. I don't question or judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:29 AM
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We wouldn't last more than a few dates. If she doesn't enjoy ("enjoy," not "permit") anal sex, then it's not going to work out. It has nothing to do with whatever she has or hasn't done with previous partners. It's ok to have preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:05 PM
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Two questions: (1) Would it have been less "gross" for him to simply use the term "unattractive"? (2) If a woman said she enjoyed having sex with unattractive men would you find it "gross"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:00 PM
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The lesson is: don't be average; be the exception to the rule(s). Otherwise, accept the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:44 PM
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Brad Pitt is ~25 years older than his current girlfriend and not a single complaint from the peanut gallery. Why? He's still fit and nice looking. The reason Leo catches so much flak is that he's dating models while being portly and no longer particularly attractive; it (obviously and uncomfortably) illuminates the transactional nature of the relationship. To the masses the larger issue in most of these big age gap relationships isn't the age gap but rather the attractiveness gap. It skirts a li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:58 AM
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I'm older and I've pretty much seen it all. I learned about this pill business when I joined reddit and have contemplated it through the lens of situations from my past. In summary, I have seen the red pill yield, and fail to yield, results. I have seen the blue pill yield, and fail to yield, results. I have seen the black pill yield, and fail to yield, results. It's all dependent upon the people and circumstances involved. People who are really adamant about one pill being the "true pill" appea…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/26 03:40 PM
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And yet in all of your god-knows-how-many posts/comments... you've never betrayed any sense of humour whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 03:02 PM
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To entertain myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 05:20 AM
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There's no Union of Men where dating is concerned. It's every man for himself. No one will listen to you. I don't know why you bother with the same message over and over and over every single week. It achieves nothing aside from others' amusement. But if you're a masochistic Sisyphean archetype, well, keep at it I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:11 PM
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What do you propose to be done about this? I think there's nothing. Times they are a changin'. It's quite possible that more men will be sexless. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 06:03 PM
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Great idea. Let's compare intelligence. We can start with some basics then work forward from there. This is me: http://mch-inc.com/management.php Now, genius, who are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 04:23 PM
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Indeed. It never gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:27 PM
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It's a joke. Apologies, I forgot you had no sense of humor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 03:21 PM
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No Esther Vilar quote? You're getting lazy. Do better!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 02:57 PM
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The abstract you linked to doesn't mention any of this. The actual research paper is only available for a fee. (I was interested in reading it.) Did you pay for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:02 PM
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I think what you mean is "the inability to get married" is bad for you. The article states that a principal negative associated with being single (after 30) is "social stigma"; basically, the stress associated with this stigma is unhealthy. I could have married most of my past girlfriends, as well as my current one, but I've never been interested because I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation, or children. Being single has been the healthiest choice I've ever made. Of course, I'm immune to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:59 PM
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To some people - mostly folks obsessed with social acceptance - yes. But you said "cheaper"... which it generally isn't if you're wealthy. Marriage (and kids) is often the most expensive venture any wealthy person enters into. Ask any divorce attorney at a white shoe firm.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:55 PM
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Wealthy people are more likely to get married for sociocultural reasons - it's expected of them and most are conformists. They are less likely to get divorced because it's more complicated and expensive than when you have nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 04:24 PM
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If you're not wealthy, yes. If you're wealthy, it's far cheaper to have a maid, prostitute (or girlfriend), personal assistant, and let restaurants do your cooking.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 05:50 AM
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Not the last word(s) but some context regarding that oft-cited article might help here: https://jacipriano.substack.com/p/the-okcupid-chart-is-bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 12:16 PM
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I don't even know what these men's issues are. I've never felt particularly oppressed or put upon by women. And I don't need or desire their sympathy or empathy. If certain women want to be misandrists... it's ok by me. I'll just avoid them. It's mind over matter; I don't mind because they don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:15 AM
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without bothering to actually trying to deal with the issue. What is "the issue"? That women tend to overrate themselves? Who cares? I don't care if men or women overrate or underrate themselves. They can feel however they want about themselves - it has nothing to do with me. If you don't like someone or they don't like you - for whatever reason - just move on. As Roger Sterling liked to say, "When god closes a door, he opens a skirt."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:22 PM
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My social network (friends, parties, events, etc) and sports (tennis and padel) have been the source of 90% of my girlfriends over the years. Although I suppose my current girlfriend was a cold approach; however, it was at a dog rescue cafe so we both had an obvious shared interest, so it wasnt at all awkward. I would be reluctant to approach any woman out of the blue with no shared acquaintance or interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 02:54 AM
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My experience is anecdotal, obviously, but over the last 20+ years I've had relationships of 10 years (11 year gap), 2 years (14 year gap), 1 year (16 year gap), 3 years (25 year gap), and currently 2 years into my current relationship (26 year gap), along with some shorter ones sprinkled in there. I'm 58. Just for perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:21 PM
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Just convenience, really. We don't have to use condoms nor worry about STDs. (I'm not worried about pregnancy because I've had a vasectomy.) Generally, it's her that wants the exclusivity and I'm fine with it. I'm too lazy and incompetent to juggle multiple women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 07:06 PM
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If you need to be "taken care of" at 60 your lifestyle has taken a very wrong turn (and/or you're unlucky). I'll be 60 next year and I'm fitter than 80%+ of 30-year olds, at least according to my doctor. (Of course, most 30-year olds are inactive, unhealthy blobs in this day and age.) Now at 80, that's a different story. But I'm confident I'll be able to change my own diapers by that point, if I live (or even desire to live) that long. The last thing I'd want is someone I was dating having to "t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:00 AM
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I've been in several over the years (including currently), the longest lasting almost 10 years. No regrets whatsoever. I'm not looking for a cook, maid or nurse. And I have zero interest in marriage. So she can leave my "old ass" whenever she pleases - with godspeed. Happy to embrace "total idiocy."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 10:35 AM
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I doubt it. A lot of Latinos just want to screw around with no responsibilities. How they're treated has little to do with anything. It's just a cultural issue. You probably can't relate to it having never lived in Latin America. To be clear, I don't really care. I'm indifferent to this phenomenon. I had a vasectomy over 25 years ago. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 04:06 AM
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That's a great idea. But they can't "work as a family unit" if the father has no interest in so doing. It can't be forced upon him.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 03:45 AM
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That's comical. In most cases they choose to have kids with these men because they're under the mistaken impression (re: they're lied to) that the men will help them raise these kids. So the men do exactly what you say they "never" can: procreate with no future responsibility. Generally the women don't pursue them for money, not out of moral character, but rather because these men don't have any money, so it's a waste of time. Also, most of these countries are very Catholic so abortion is frowne…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 09:06 PM
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On some level it's true. I admit it. I watch this continuous, neverending flailing and I think, how does this person navigate through life. And I'm amused.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:50 PM
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Every week another post, exact same theme followed by an Esther Vilar quote. Over and over and over and over... Christ on a bicycle. I give you points for tenacity but you are a broken record.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:43 PM
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Never? I've lived in Latin America for over a decade. Believe me, they often choose both; in fact, it's a cultural norm. Why women allow for it is beyond me. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:28 PM
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But... why? What is the rationale for this fear? If you date a woman for a few years and you're utterly convinced she's insatiably attracted to you - even though it's all an act - then for whatever you break up, move on, and never know the truth... who cares? It's like the philosophical question: If a tree falls in the woods and there's nothing there to hear it, does it make a sound? It doesn't matter. Who cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 08:44 PM
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A question is, does it actually matter which type of attraction it is if the guy isn't interested in marriage? If the woman is so desperate to get status and resources and can summon an Oscar-worthy performance of physical attraction over a long period of time... does it matter that it isn't "real"? Few people can tell the difference between Coca Cola made with real sugar and high fructose corn syrup. Ignorance is often bliss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 05:58 PM
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Most normal people prefer a long term partner be close to their age. Putting the issue of age gap attraction aside, "most normal people" lead galactically uninteresting lives. I'm not sure why anyone in their right mind would look to this group for any cues whatsoever as to how to lead a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 04:38 AM
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Let's assume, for argument's sake, you're right. So what? Whatever problem it is you think you've identified isn't going to change. Maybe a lot of women are delusional and will be single and miserable (cat ladies!!). Maybe a lot of men will end up single and miserable (gaming gooners!!). There's really nothing to be done here. If people can't figure out how to be happy in a romantic sense there's no set of policies that will change it. It's just a feature of the human condition as humanity has p…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:43 AM
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It does, in fact, say something about oppression. It says two things: (1) attention is a zero sum game, and (2) men are being oppressed because women are getting too large a share of this attention. Personally, I don't want any more attention than I already have. I don't really care what feminists are up to. It's mind over matter; I don't mind because they don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:39 AM
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It's hard for me to sympathize with a man who's too lazy or dumb to not get a prenuptial agreement (and avoid this 50/50 business). I'm divorced. I had a prenup. It was unchallenged and our divorce was amicable. I'm still friends with my ex-wife 12 years later and she's remarried. I can't think of any way that I've ever been impacted by female privilege so I simply have no idea what you're talking about here. Maybe I'm missing something here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 12:35 AM
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Beg to differ: They [women] are the ones causing men's issues being neglected by demanding that all the attention is only ever on themselves. Pretty sure that says, "Women are oppressing me by demanding that all the attention is on themselves." Is there some other interpretation?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:48 PM
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No. Did you build that straw man all by yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:37 PM
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I guess she struck a nerve. I mean... men still largely control things on this planet (politically, economically, etc). Most men's issues are the result of policies put in place (and supported) by other men. Outside of dating/relationships/sex... women seldom have the power to oppress men; other men do. I've never felt oppressed by a woman, singularly, or women as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 11:11 PM
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Why? Because you don’t think the levels of harm rise to anything you deem valid or because you find the idea preposterous? I don't think the levels of harm in the realm of dating rise to anything to which there's any practical solution. Some men are undatable. This is not women's fault. There are some problems in the world that are no one's fault and are also unfixable. Most adults understand this. It’s definitely the case that women rely on the current state of dating in order to exploit men. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:41 PM
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For the record: Women deserve everything in a relationship ^^This I disagree with. men aren't entitled to sex, even in a relationship ^^This I agree with. If she doesn't want to have sex... end the relationship and move on. If you're not having sex, you're not in a "romantic relationship"; you're in something else. But, yes, there are some women here who like to beat a dead horse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:25 PM
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Sure, you can do whatever you want. But "naming a problem" would be something on the order of, "Some females' behavior may cause issues within the realm of dating." Writing 15 paragraphs about how "women are the main problem in dating" without offering any solutions is just whining and moaning. Which is ok, too. But don't be surprised when someone points this out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:17 PM
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One wistfully wonders... what are your proposed solutions to this state of affairs? Outside of increased whining and moaning, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:20 PM
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In a racist society, yes, there are social reforms that could be helpful. But you're a man talking about being persecuted by women, as a group. Which I find absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:02 PM
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Actually, perhaps you should blame yourself more. My problems are my own. I don't blame others for them. Your problems are your own. Blaming women as a group for your issues is ludicrous. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:46 PM
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This guy has posted some variation of the same post almost every week for maybe a year. It often ends with an Esther Vilar quote. He's got some bug up his ass about any guy that might buy a woman dinner. Maybe he's been unemployed and girlfriendless for a long time. I don't know but it's bizarre even by reddit standards. But at least he's consistently amusing. So I give him points for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 02:03 AM
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Most people - men and women - are uninteresting and uniformed. I mean... 70% of US adults read less than 10 books a year. Only 12% of US adults travel abroad each year, half of those go to Canada or Mexico, and a large percentage of the individuals that comprise that 12% doesn't change much from year to year. Most Americans have never been outside of North America. Almost 60% of US adults live within 10 miles of the house they grew up in. Most people are wage slaves leading tedious boring lives.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 03:58 AM
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If he’s looking for a wife ... then he's fucked right out of the gates. You can’t bring a waitress home to mumsey. Sure you can. I was in a 10-year relationship with a personal trainer. My "mumsey" had no issues with her. Probably because she knew she had no choice. Mumsey's sway over my life ended when I became an adult. Only a wet noodle chooses partners based on what his parents think.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:32 PM
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I don’t think it’s about the sex at all. Ok, let's remove the sex.... so, what is it about? I’m from a third world country that is one of the most traveled to for sex tourism. Let me guess... this country's culture is steeped in Catholicism or some other magical thinking collective... in which out-of-wedlock sex is deemed evil and dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:57 PM
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Well, you say this (which I agree with, by the way): The kinds of men who whine about being entitled to sex and that women are wrong for not giving him sex (the kind of was referring to in my comment) do not respect women, no. ... but then you add this: To seek out a sex worker knowing these are the conditions almost assuredly requires being fucked in the head, and they don’t give a single shit about those women either. So, again, you're saying that all men who have engaged the services of a pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:43 PM
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This kind of man does not give a single shit about women anyway, so stop pretending like “he would empathize with women” if we all discouraged him from seeing a prozzie LOL. "This kind of man".... I suspect there are literally tens of millions of men who have seen (and/or continue to see) prostitutes who have wives, mothers, grandmothers, sisters, etc that they love, and women that they are friends with. They probably just don't see sex as some religious purity ritual that taints the participant…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:23 PM
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A big part of the problem is that the average person - male and female - in the US is materially overweight. (40% of US adults are obese, so you can start there.) So, it's not a stretch to say that the "average" person in the US is ugly... I mean, before even getting into any other characteristics these folks are... fat. Fifty years ago this wasn't the case because the incidence of overweight/obesity has more than doubled (!) over that period. So, this notion of "normal looking"... If you’re jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 11:31 PM
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What's wrong with sex for the love of sex? It's an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It doesn't have to be some pseudo-religious purity ritual just because much of Society is comprised of brainwashed uptight prudes. I don't play tennis with people I love either. We just enjoy playing tennis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:37 AM
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Welp, you're talking to the wrong guy. I'm not bitching about the male loneliness epidemic. I have no issues with the current state of dating/relationships. You should misdirect your anger elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 10:22 PM
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Don't marry, cohabitate, or have kids. Problems solved. I don't need a woman to do any unpleasant tasks for me at all (and vice versa). Emotional labor? Nonexistant. Everybody wins. It's fantastic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:00 PM
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1-2% of age gap relationships are sugar daddy relationships? I have no idea. Your guess is as good as mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:59 PM
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Exactly. "Uses" = "Exploits". Anyone who can find a sugar daddy can find a day job and a boyfriend their own age; they choose not to because they prefer to use (re: exploit) this older man. These women have agency. As do the men. It's mutual exploitation. The market at work. Trying to paint one side as the angel or demon is just a reflection of personal politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:36 PM
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Well, let's hope you did actually "beat" it. A lot of folks think they've beat cancer only to discover otherwise later on. My mother thought she beat pancreatic cancer for a few years. She didn't, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:41 PM
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Exploitation cuts both ways. Often it becomes a matter of the younger one using his/her sexual capital to exploit the older one.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:35 PM
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Aren't you the guy with cancer that lives in Michigan?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 02:31 PM
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I've never thought of these "courtship" rituals as particularly taxing or problematic, and certainly not as "emotional labor." Of course, I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation or kids, so maybe I just don't put a lot into my relationships, relatively speaking. Once you decide marriage, kids and/or cohabitation is important to you, you open up a pandora's box of challenges. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 06:01 AM
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It feels like maybe a solution is to just accept that the majority of relationships are going to have a built in expiration date despite your best efforts to try and keep the spark alive. I think you've solved the puzzle despite wider Society's efforts to convince you otherwise. Accept this and adapt accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 12:25 AM
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I don't make self-appraisals. Folks can decide that for themselves. I'm not anonymous here. My original comment stands regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:47 PM
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Most are, by mathematical definition. Most people follow Society's diktats and lead unoriginal, uninteresting lives. It's a feature of humanity, not a bug. Further, and ironically, most folks who call out other folks as NPCs are likely NPCs themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 10:49 PM
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Sex by deception typically applies to situations where the other party has lied about their identity, sexual orientation, disease status, etc. Nevertheless... A woman I dated used to cook cow tongue and didn't tell me what it was for several years. After she told me, I still enjoyed it and did not suffer from tongue by deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:55 PM
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I like myself enough that I wouldn't give it a second thought. It wouldn't change my view of the conversation at all. I'd just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:34 AM
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I don't think many guys are going to lie over a period of months just to get a hook up. Consequently, patience is the best strategy. Regardless, if a woman hooks up with a guy and enjoys the sex... why would she change her mind and decide she didn't enjoy it later? Does finding out a guy doesn't want to be in a relationship change the experience she originally enjoyed? If I enjoy ice cream that I later find out is yogurt (which I normally wouldn't like)... it doesn't change the fact I enjoyed it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 05:41 AM
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Ok, so... why would you do these things if you didn't think you were going to enjoy them? No one knows where anything is leading early on. It's a crapshoot. If a woman only wants sex in the context of a LTR then she should do a better job of vetting and be very patient. It's not at all complicated. Women have agency. It serves no purpose to infantilize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 04:17 AM
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I thought women enjoyed sex. Why else would they have it? Are there women having sex with guys and thinking, "I would never put up with this shit (re: sex) if I didn't think this guy was going to marry me"? That sounds pretty depressing for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:28 AM
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Men refuse to admit that they are intimidated by smart, independent women, which is why they tend to go for the nursing / hygienist bimbos. I have no dog in this fight but I find this amusing on a few counts. First, I always find self-appraisals (in this case, "I'm a smart, independent woman") mildly entertaining because the appraiser almost never recognizes their bias. (You might be smart and independent or you might be a complete idiot, but your opinion of yourself in this regard is worthless …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:49 PM
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You write essentially the same post every few weeks. I recognize it because it's always the same theme - "stop chasing women!" - with that Esther Vilar quote at the end. What I don't understand is... why. You're like Sisyphus pushing a rock up a mountain only for it to fall back down to the bottom, and then you repeat the exercise over and over again. It's amusing but bewildering.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:10 PM
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Like reddit, generally, this sub's primary value proposition is amusement. Much like how most folks like watching skateboarders and scooter riders get their nuts crushed doing ridiculous stunts.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 03:19 PM
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This is absurd. There are zero males who didn't play tennis as kids that could start playing tennis as adults and beat a top-200 WTA player. No matter how much they trained and practiced. We have genderless UTR ratings and no adult-learning male player has ever made it above 11, which is well below the top-200 WTA. Now there are many college-level male players that could beat WTA professionals. But you're saying something completely different and it's 100% incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:20 PM
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Part of the problem with the OP is the title mentions "dating" and then the body mentions "financially investing in her kids." That's a huge leap. I've dated some (super hot) single moms over the years for multiple years in a few cases, but... we didn't marry or cohabitate, and I certainly didn't act as a stepfather to their kids. I have zero interest in any of that business. Dating single moms has one really attractive quality: they're busy. Their lives revolve around their kids and work, etc w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:29 PM
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This seems like a distinction without a material difference. If the odds of the relationship ending increase dramatically once finances dry up... does it really matter on what foundation the relationship was originally built. Once it ends... it's over; the result is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:55 AM
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I think they're both based off of money... to some degree. And the only real difference is that degree. Seeing as the odds of divorce increase by ~70% when a husband loses his job, I do wonder how great the functional difference is between these two arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:41 AM
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I have zero problem with transactional relationships. None whatsoever. I have no idea where this is coming from. Labeling =/= shaming. I can be labeled in many different ways, none of which I'd regard as shaming me. I provided the labels for the sake of discussion, specifically Society's hypocrisy regarding them. The descriptions I provided are my own, so there's nothing for you to agree with regarding them. This is so on brand for this sub...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:33 AM
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Take a deep breath. I think you're replying to the wrong person. I have no problem with any of these arrangements. I couldn't possibly care less what kind of relationships consenting adults enter into, nor would I shame anyone in such relationships. I'm a live-and-let-live kind of guy. Having said that, you didn't answer my question. I didn't ask about labels, I asked about your view of what the material differences were between two types of relationships for which Society has specific (and diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:01 AM
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For the sake of argument... what is the difference between (1) a sugarbaby in a monogamous LTR with an unmarried sugardaddy that she's attracted to who underwrites her living expenses, and (2) a wife/girlfriend whose living expenses are paid by her husband/boyfriend? Many folks say that sugarbabies are prostitutes because of the money involved. I could probably argue either way depending on the specific relationship. But (1) and (2) don't seem materially different; without Mr Green's involvement…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 04:39 AM
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This is highly unusual, particularly for the times. I don't think I know or have met a single person in my life who had dates with 100 different people before the age of 22.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 10:07 PM
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I'm pretty sure 100 dates with 100 different people by the age of 22 qualifies as a lot, regardless of gender. I suspect that would be way over to the far right end of a normal distribution, even taking into account the effect of online dating. I had well over 100 dates by the age of 22... but that was with probably ten or so different girls, and pre-internet. I have no dog in this fight, I'm just clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 05:06 PM
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1/ In a relationship for 2+ years. For additional context, I'm 58, so likely one of the oldest folks on this sub. I mention this only because I've been told many times here that "I'm too old to understand younger men's struggles". Perhaps some truth to that. 2/ I'm no-pilled. If I were to cherry-pick a certain set of experiences from my life I could "prove" the predominance of any of the pills individually. If I were to cherry-pick a different set of experiences, I could "prove" the predominance…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 03:22 PM
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DEI I'm familiar with this but don't have any experience with it. I retired over a decade ago and spent the 10 years prior to that in a small partnership so we never gave it much thought. Maybe if I'd worked in a larger organization I'd know more about this. My guess is avoiding DEI is best accomplished by avoiding wage-slave jobs (and bosses, if possible). Can't think of a male hobby nowadays that hasn't been policed and sanitized by Karens. Maybe I don't have any experience with "male hobbies.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:06 AM
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Then it continued with a society that not only squashes men with direct policies that favors women, but whose culture works constantly to demoralize them and turn them submissive and compliant; men are not offered an ideal for themselves anymore, but their purpose lies in protecting women and helping women ascend in this new social order. Then couple all that with a bit of censorship, invasion of male spaces here and there and other things, and you get a completely demoralized set of people. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 11:38 PM
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Observation =/= complaint. Do you need some help? My entire comment history on reddit is public. Find me some complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:04 PM
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Show me exactly where I complained about anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:51 PM
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why are you in this sub then It's interesting in a macabre way. It's a look into a peculiar world I otherwise have no exposure to. go back to your cat photos sub I've never owned a cat nor visited a cat photo sub. But this is the sort of bizarre non-sequitur you see here. A+ amusement. No, I think I'll stay on this sub. I quite enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 10:36 PM
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So why bother with descriptions at all? You can just post photos. Whenever someone asks me about myself I just direct them to my reddit profile - it's all there. It's much easier. As an aside, you seem awfully concerned with your family members' heights. Is your son going to play in the NBA?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:22 PM
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There are too many people on the reddit who say things like this for all of them to be true. It's like Lake Wobegone here, where "all of the children are above average." I doubt it's coincidence that almost all of these folks make such claims anonymously. But, hey, it's amusing, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:48 PM
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It sure sounds like you've ruined yourself somehow and you're looking for someone other than yourself to blame. Regardless, the world is indifferent. Bitching and moaning about things on reddit is just yelling into the void. It engenders no solutions to your myriad woes. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:17 PM
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Oh, please elaborate. This should be amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 11:57 AM
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I'm a 58-year old man and I don't know if I've ever been in a "mens only" space. Maybe I have and didn't realize it. It's never occurred to me to care whether or not women were in some particular "space." Further, I had no idea that women didn't want men to have male friends. This is news to me. I didn't even know that these issues existed. If women are trying to oppress me, they're doing a really poor job of it as I'm unaware of their efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:13 AM
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You’re assuming value only exists if it causes personal suffering, which isn’t how moral judgment operates. If there's no penalty attached to wrongdoing... there's no point to society's moral judgement. And in many, many cases - including the one discussed here - there is virtually no penalty. Trump has faced lost elections, nonstop institutional resistance, legal action, reputational damage, and extreme social polarization directly tied to judgments about his behavior regardless of whether hes …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:14 PM
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Idk wtf your askin. It's not complicated and quite clear. Yes mr.sir stay away. No thanks, Mr. Sir. I think I'll ignore your wishes and just continue to do what I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 08:06 PM
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Ah... "majority rules," does it? So... what prevents a majority in a country committing genocide against a minority, if that's what they desire to do? Majority rules, right? Stay away from minors? I think you're projecting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 06:04 PM
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Yes, and these moral guidelines are all relative between and among cultures. Vegetarians live (mostly) peacefully alongside omnivores. It's all... relative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:59 PM
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So, in what way has Trump suffered from his "bad" behavior? I can't see any. If this "disagreement" shows judgement's power... in what way has he suffered from his misdeeds? There are countless people on Earth that you would judge as "bad" that are living perfectly contented lives. Your judgement, and that of others like you, has no impact on them whatsoever. Why? Because of this disagreement on what constitutes good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:47 PM
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It's held little value for the current President of the United States. People can't seem to agree whether this guy is one of the worst people on Earth or absolutely wonderful. Unless you're actually found guilty of a crime and put in prison, it doesn't seem to matter a whole lot either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:21 PM
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Hitler was mostly bad, sure. But not 100% bad. He loved his dogs. No. society knows what a bad person is. Apparently it doesn't. Contemplate Trump. A lot of folks think he's awful. Lots of folks love him. Lots of folks don't give it much thought. Society appears to be quite confused on the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:18 PM
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It's worked out well for me. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 05:15 PM
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You're not a good person. You're not a bad person. You're a mixture of both, just like me and everyone else. Where you fall on the good/bad spectrum is entirely subjective depending on the person judging you. Ultimately, it holds no value.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 04:29 PM
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Say no. Move on. Rinse and repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:29 AM
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Why does a man need to marry for "constant access to sex"? Why not just be in a long-term relationship? And if it doesn't work out then... move on to another long-term relationship. Further, presumably a woman isn't going to put up with this marriage if the only thing the guy is interested in is sex - divorce isn't that complicated, or she can just dead-bedroom him. So, why would a guy bother following this marriage-guarantees-sex strategy if failure is ultimately baked into the cake?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 06:32 PM
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I've never been to Colombia and never met a Colombian. That explains a bit, I suppose. Every single Latina girl I've ever met aside from one Peruvian "masajista" (a normal massage lol) from Madrid and one girl I came across in Mexico was either fluent or decent in English. This supports my original point. You share a common language - English - even if it isn't their first language. Most women in Latin America hardly speak any English at all. 98% of the attractive women on dating apps in Colombi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:27 PM
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I suspect that our definitions of attractive are different. I also assume you're fluent in Spanish, or at a minimum don't need to use a translation app. Otherwise, well, back to my first sentence. I've lived in Colombia for six years. I've got a pretty good handle on how dating, both online and offline, works here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 03:23 AM
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The vast majority of attractive women on dating apps that are willing to meet a tourist that doesn't speak their language are prostitutes. Not that there's anything wrong with that but let's call a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:27 AM
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Agreed. The power imbalance that many of these women wield - sexual capital - often leads to financial abuse of these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:20 AM
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And the hits just keep on comin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 09:13 PM
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I find generous self-appraisals endlessly amusing. Thanks for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 08:55 PM
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Yeah, but few tall guys are actually chads. Most, by definition, are just Average Joes that happen to be tall. That sub is full of guys that can't seem to find companions. I don't know why anyone can complain about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 04:19 AM
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You have a False Dilemma fallacy at work here. The options aren't marriage (total commitment) vs casual sex (zero commitment). You can be in a monogamous relationship without cohabitating, marrying, or planning to do either. I've been in many of them, ranging from several months to several years. Probably some high body count women in there... didn't know, ask or care so long as the sex was great.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 12:40 PM
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I always pay for dates because the amounts are so trivial as to be beneath contemplation. So it's a win-win.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:16 PM
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You don't have to be perfect, merely more attractive than most of the other options overall. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king. In the US, specifically, the (statistically) average man is a right-leaning, overweight, renting wage slave with no education past high school, who has never traveled outside the country. Of course the average woman doesn't stack up much better but such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 01:51 PM
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The balance sought after is comfort/trust vs sameness/boring. I've found the best sex to be that had between 2 months and 2-3 years into a relationship. Prior to a couple of months, as you point out, lack of trust often inhibits sexual adventurousness. But after a few years, that same sense of sexual adventure tends to wane - you've likely done everything possible many times over. And variety is the spice of life. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 11:45 PM
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I reduce the assumptions redditors make about me by... not being anonymous. Anyone can click on my reddit profile and see exactly who I am. If they don't like my opinions, lifestyle, etc... it's no skin off my back. I'd find living in hiding, in fear, too much trouble. It seems stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:29 PM
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I talk about people I know, etc on reddit from time to time... I just don't name them. It's never occured to me to seek out advice regarding anything remotely important on reddit. The anonymity of the other users, for one, renders it all pretty useless I'd think. I still don't see an issue in your case if you put a little thought into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 05:30 PM
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Out of curiosity... what are you, specifically, afraid of regarding anonymity? Are you in witness protection, avoiding a bench warrant, an enemy of the state, a whistleblower, etc? Billions of people have public social media accounts on facebook, instagram, tiktok, etc, and 99%+ never face any material issue regarding their lack of anonymity. I've had a public profile here on reddit for almost nine years... zero issues. You could take every post/comment I've ever made here and post it in the New…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 04:32 PM
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Have more options. Don't marry. Don't try to fix other men's problems - everyone's on their own in the realm of relationships. It's a recipe for happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 07:03 AM
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People only spend money on things if there's something in it for them. I fund a dog refuge in Mexico. It costs me about $70k a year. I do it because I love dogs, and helping dogs makes me feel useful; it provides me with enormous psychic income. There is no such thing as altruism. Everything - even "charity" - involves getting something - even if it's intangible - for the money spent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 11:28 PM
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I think guys brought flowers and chocolates on a date about 60 years ago. Regardless, only very miserable people complain about the opposite sex, as a whole, on reddit. Women defeated you before you even left your house. What will you do? That's a rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/25 04:27 PM
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Let me simplify: You're yelling at the sky - and it will get you nowhere. Plenty of others don't give a shit. Keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:43 PM
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Welp, then I guess you're screwed. Bummer. The demographic I prefer is growing. So no complaints here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 03:37 PM
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Rust belt? You think the entire Midwest is just done shithole? No, there are many nice parts of the Midwest. I was born in Michigan and lived in Chicago for a few years. But that doesn't change the fact that most of the areas that have shown serious decline - and there aren't that many in percentage terms - are in the Midwest. The 2010 United States foreclosure crisis was not limited to what you call the rust belt and affected the entire country. I recall quite well. My business was recapitalizi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:58 PM
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How do you know your neighborhood isn’t going to be a slum in 20 years, let alone 10 years? You don't but... average residential real estate prices in the US have increased at greater than the rate of overall inflation for many decades now, so we know your circumstances (I'm guessing rust belt) were quite unusual. (The Anecdotal Fallacy.) I wouldn't use your personal experience as instruction for others to follow. While you’re doing yard work all Saturday I don't do any yard work, home maintenan…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 10:43 PM
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So, if you're a single person at 30 years of age are you better off in 30 years having paid off a 30-year mortgage and owning your home outright, or owning no home and paying a monthly rent that's been inflating for 30 years? If you've rented for 30 years you have nothing at the end of that 30 years to show for it. That seems like a pretty good reason not to rent for 30 years if you can avoid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 09:37 PM
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Correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 05:04 AM
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I don't know who "they" are but I have zero issues with 304s as long as they're very attractive, disease-free, sexually compatible, and otherwise generally nice women. I don't need a woman to do my laundry, clean my house, cook, or do anything else for me that she doesn't want to do. I hire people to do that stuff. I have no interest whatsoever in marriage, cohabitation, or kids, so she'll have ample time/space - and encouragement from me - to pursue all of her hopes and dreams (so long as those…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:31 AM
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Right. Ok. Well... please elaborate regarding the fruits of your efforts. How has your life or the life of men, generally, improved as a result of your/their "complaining loudly online"? Seems like there's plenty of bitching and whining going on, so how are things moving in that "more favorable direction" for you? Considering the effort being expended I'd think there would be considerable results to report. Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 03:06 AM
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otherwise you would be facing a sexless drought and much more negative consequences of giving up. Then perhaps you should be more flexible regarding what tradeoffs you can accept. If you don't have options, you probably shouldn't be making many demands. If you're unhappy with your job and don't have a lot of other job offers you're just going to have to keep eating shit until you do. Or be unemployed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/25 12:36 AM
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I didn't realize that I've been conditioned to tolerate anything in a relationship, much less been "gaslit" about it. I'm not the jealous type so I don't really give a shit whether my girlfriend has male friends or posts photos on instagram or whathaveyou. I just don't care. And if I'm particularly unhappy with something she's doing, I just dump her and move on. And she's free to do the same with me. But I'm certainly not going to police her activities, nor should she bother trying to police min…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 11:59 PM
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Pointing out that simps are the problem doesnt mean someone is mad. It just means they're pointing out that simps are the problem. I don't know. When you describe women as "self centered, entitled and parasitic," you sound pretty mad to me. Anyhow, just ignore the men ("simps") and women ("self centered, entitled and parasitic") you don't like. Problem solved. I don't like Taylor Swift or most popular music much. I'm more of a post-punk guy, myself, which is a very small niche. But there's enoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 04:49 PM
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I've denied my programming in this regard. I don't care at all about body count. I only care about diseases and babies. And I don't worry about the latter because I got a vasectomy over 25 years ago. Of course, I'm not marrying anyone, so there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:50 PM
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Most men don't have big egos, they have fragile egos. Which is why so many seek out approval from Society, which forms a lot of their thinking regarding women. Of course, plenty of women suffer the same dilemma. Once you start living your life for approval in the eyes of others, you're well and truly fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 10:32 PM
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As he gets older, the cohort of women his own age that are still sexually attractive to him gets smaller. So, as he enters his forties and fifties, for example, he continues to date fitness-conscious women principally in their thirties.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:35 PM
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Nothing's changed. He continues to date because women want to date him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:16 PM
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It’s prostitution with more steps, which to each their own.. if the women like the money and the men like the sex, it is what it is. Perhaps, but this has nothing to do with age gap issues. Plenty of similar-age relationships/marriages where one person largely supports the other could be described the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 05:08 PM
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Sometimes... because he has so many dating options - and no desire for kids or cohabitation - that there's no benefit to him getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:57 PM
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Or just for convenience. I don't think "desire" plays much of a role in porn even when it's between partners. There are too many logistics involved to conjure up much romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:25 AM
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A woman in content on a man's onlyfans page is being paid (unless she's his girlfriend). A man on a woman's onlyfans page is not paying her. She's asked him to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 10:14 PM
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I have plenty of male friends that I can hang out with individually or in a group. What do we talk about? Politics, finance, current events, pop culture (movies/music), issues with family and other friends, sports, etc etc etc... the list is endless. I thought this was the norm, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 03:26 AM
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Most people - men and women - age very poorly. 80% of the time the cause is simply a lack of fitness. No time for fitness due to work and kids, or just pure laziness (most often the latter). 52% of US adults are diabetic or pre-diabetic; 70% are overweight (including obese). So it's no surprise most folks look horrible by 40. Having said that... I've dated a few women in their early-40s that looked amazing, better than 95% of their peers twenty years younger (for my tastes, that is). But they sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 05:25 PM
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I didn't say "relationships." I'm specifically talking about long-term marriages. The average couple married more than 10 years has sex less than three times a month. Again, that's the average. (And I'm not taking into account self-report bias or duty sex.) That's verging on dead to me. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 07:28 PM
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If you make the time to date each other, keep things fun and spicy in the bedroom, and communicate, this is literally a non-issue. Apparently even that doesn't work in most cases. I'm not married so I couldn't care less. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 06:25 PM
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It has little to do with groups. Most people just get tired of having sex with the same person for years on end. They get bored. See r/DeadBedrooms and r/Marriage And then there's science: https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/science-behind-hard-sleep-person-forever/950751
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 05:25 PM
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You forgot Group 4: Guys who have been married for many years, with kids, living with a virtually dead bedroom. Groups 1-3 often end up in 4.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:36 AM
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Welp, such is life. It ain't gonna be pretty. (No pun intended.) Seems like you've accepted it, so that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:25 PM
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I might argue I’m on the more attractive scale in most age groups because I’m physically fit. You're as attractive as the women you date on a consistent basis. Once women hit 30 they don't really care about your age. Your looks, fitness, etc... yes. But your chronological age, not so much. I suspect if you were as attractive and youthful looking as you think, you'd find attractive single women in their thirties to date. The 40+ age group is rough everywhere. There just aren't that many women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 10:14 PM
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These numbers are even much higher in my region and age group. That sounds depressing. The small number of lean/fit women that exist in my age group are almost always already taken. Ah, ok, so you're attractive "for your age," in which you're comparing yourself to a bunch of older fat guys, who are scavenging for these older single overweight women. That makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:37 PM
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I've had people here describe pair bonding as lifetime romantic love that can only be achieved if the woman hasn't slept with another guy. So perhaps the issue is a definitional one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:05 PM
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Every Chad I ever knew ended up settling down with some baba mama after years of fucking around. I think this happens a lot... but then is also inevitably followed by the guy (or woman) screwing around at some point and/or having a dead bedroom with this "pair bonded" baby mama. Most "chads" are reduced to an everyman eventually, and marriage and kids accelerate this transformation. I think pair bonding is mostly baloney that folks just want to believe. Not unlike religion. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:54 PM
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If you're attractive, why do you have to resort to fucking all of these fat girls? Didn't you say recently that your girlfriend weighed 200 lbs? If that's your thing, then more power to you, but I'd think you'd have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 04:27 PM
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They aren't the same, however... Heidi Fleiss had a black book full of Chads who paid for pussy all the time, including Charlie Sheen, Billy Idol, Johnny Depp, Mario Andretti, Robert Evans, etc etc etc. Recall Hugh Grant and Divine Brown. I'm not sure they're as different as you'd like to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 07:38 PM
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This is blackpilled genetic determinism, and false. Actually, the black pill would say "all" (as opposed to most) of attraction is determined by genes. I'm a no-piller. I see evidence and counterfactuals of all of the pills. Aside from entertainment, I don't really care about the pills. No two guys are equal "in every single way" except income. This is not a realistic scenario, and therefore is not instructive or useful in any real world setting. It's called a hypothetical, or a thought experime…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 08:32 PM
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I didn't read the OP, I was just scanning the comments and saw yours. I have no opinion on this Jack person. Focusing on "income" as a means of attracting woman is a stupid strategy for guys who struggle to elicit attraction because it is not a means of eliciting attraction. I agree. "Focusing" on anything in particular primarily as a means to attract women is probably a waste of time. Most (but not all) of attraction is based on genetic factors anyway - looks, personality, etc. Having said all …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 06:35 PM
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Income does not attract women. Income alone, no. But... Having an overall life plan with goals and the means to achieve them does. Often, income is correlated with this^^. That is, income often serves as a proxy for a guy having his shit together, having a plan, and being able to succeed at something. Not always, of course. But often. It's like using someone's education as a signal regarding knowledge or intelligence. It's imperfect but there's a correlation. That's why so many companies rely on…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 05:44 PM
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Being a parent gives you rewards money could never buy. Perhaps, but, it's also like being addicted to drugs - you're helpless and lose all sense of objectivity where your kids are concerned. Everyone thinks their kids are great, and clearly a lot of them aren't. All of these crime shows talk to the parents of the killers and they pretty much all say the same thing: "I know he did something horrible, but we still love him." Oki doki. Jeffrey Dahmer's parents still loved him right up until he got…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 06:18 PM
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He laughed and flat-out said, "They're all bitches, man." Maybe he just isn't interested in marriage and/or kids. I have no interest in either but my view isn't "they're all bitches" - I take things on a case-by-case basis. I have no complaints about "modern dating," whatever that is. I think part of the problem was identified by Don Draper: "People tell us who they are all the time. But we don't listen because we want them to be who we want them to be." I think a lot of men and women have some …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:13 PM
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She's 45, which isn't that old. I've dated women that age who were hotter than 90% of 25-year olds. (They were gym rats, got cosmetic surgery, etc.) I suspect you won't feel the same in 10 years, although I guess there is some minority of men out there who are actually attracted to older women who other men find sexually undesirable. If that's the case, kudos to you; you're a member of a very small club. There are two problems with sexual attraction and LTRs. One is the fundamental problem of lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/25 11:26 PM
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It's not a lie early on. It becomes a lie later, after the business arrangement phase of the marriage takes hold. After that, nothing is sexy anymore. Too much familiarity is unsexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:29 AM
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Don't get married. Problem solved. Zen state achieved, Grasshopper.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 05:15 AM
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Agreed. There's little less attractive than a helpless, whiney manchild. Likewise, there's little less attractive than your kids' mommy, doing all of her mommy stuff. The marriage/kids arrangement is designed to make the other party look like the least sexy being on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 05:20 PM
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Marriage is where sex goes to die (in most cases). Most of the activities of marriage - chores, managing kids, making meals, schedules, financing the whole operation, etc - are galactically unsexy for both parents. What starts out as romance generally morphs into a business arrangement over time; two people who are otherwise friendly, getting older, fatter, and more stressed out, just trying to keep the boat from sinking. The whole arrangement seems designed to engender mutual dissatisfaction. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 04:16 PM
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I quote myself: "Self-appraisals are worthless"; there's too much bias at work. That goes for men and women, and goes far beyond appearances. If someone wants to know how attractive they are it's all quite simple: check the results. One's attractiveness is determined by the attractiveness of the people s/he's able to attract for dates/sex/relationships over long periods of time. Results are self explanatory. The folks who make it more complicated than this are trying to rationalize bad results. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/25 05:04 AM
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This: “if you don’t put all these expectations on someone, then they won’t disappoint you” Does not equal this: the basis of your post comes from hurt and unhealed wounds Happiness = Results - Expectations If you can reduce your Expectations regarding certain parts of a relationship (while maximizing other parts that are more important to you), you're going to achieve more Happiness. Coming from a place of "hurt and unhealed wounds"? I didn't pick that up at all. She seems introspective, pragmat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/25 05:40 AM
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Ardor fades. Sex becomes less exciting as time passes no matter how hot your partner is. And if you have good options, you generally excercise them. Because you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 02:02 PM
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The girlfriends of the men mentioned in my original comment were successful women in their thirties when the relationships began. You're setting the bar awfully low for "young and stupid." By your own definition... I suspect you, yourself, are young and stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:46 PM
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Isn't the younger person also weird and creepy for wanting to date the older person? Why is this a one-way street? It takes two to tango, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:28 PM
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Forget about interviews. I'm just talking about the age gap aspect. Still weird and creepy? I suspect this is an extreme outlier view. Which is ok, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 08:18 PM
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Brad Pitt is 27 years older than his current girlfriend. Tom Cruise is 26 years older than his current girlfriend. Alec Baldwin, 26 years. I could go on and on. Are these guys weird and creepy? Or is there an age for the younger party - 26? - at which the weird-and-creepy factor disappears regardless of the age gap? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 03:41 AM
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I have seen anecdotal evidence that support each of the three main pills. And situations that violate each pill's tenets. Which is why I'm no-pilled. People are different. Situations are different. People change. Their environments change. These arguments about which pill is "right" seem like religious debates heavy on emotional fervor, pretzel logic, and confirmation bias. Which is what makes this sub so amusing. Edit: spelling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 02:38 PM
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I have three female friends on my block (in the US) who are 75+. We routinely just hang out, shoot the shit, and drink. They're way beyond menopause and, as you'd expect, I have less than zero interest in them sexually. Explain to me how we're not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 02:13 AM
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I'm sure there are some men out there who put no effort, look slobby/lack awareness of their appearance, but there a small minority of men, I think. I think most men put "little", as opposed to no, effort into their looks. 70% of adult men in the US are overweight, which is just for starters. I think it's a small minority of men who put "considerable" effort into their looks. Now some of this latter group might think they're putting in a lot of effort... but clearly they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:26 PM
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loolsmaxxing Is this like lulzmaxxing? I'm all for maximizing lulz.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 07:20 PM
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I'm a no-piller and don't really understand all of the debate on which pill is "right." I'm 58 and done more dating than probably 95% of the folks on this sub. And I've seen multiples of anecdotal incidents that support each of the pills (and, by definition, refute the other pills). I think the black pill stuff is the most off the wall but... but... I can remember situations that, in hindsight, would definitely be categorized as "black pill confirmed." The problem is there are grains of truth in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 11:52 PM
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There are two fundamental challenges to marriage. One, sexual attraction fades with time. Two, people change. And neither party knows how, or the degree to which, these things will occur during their marriage. So, it's a crap shoot, ex-ante. Marriage, in my view, seems to be mostly about having kids because, as you point out, two-parent cohabitation seems to be the best arrangement for this on average. Some folks manage to (a) maintain a certain sexual attraction to their partner over the long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 03:57 PM
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"Beta fucks" strategy I hadn't heard this one before. Ha! This involves pumping and dumping single moms This could be promising if these moms are super hot not overly annoying. Otherwise... waste of time. and using escorts. I guess this can work if your bar for the quality of sex you find acceptable is sufficiently low. Otherwise... waste of time and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/25 03:18 AM
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"Special place"... that's amusing. You're a victim of socio-religious brainwashing. But in that you're far from alone. Hey, the good news is that 100 years ago the overwhelming majority of people thought that a woman who had engaged in pre-marital sex was unfit for marriage (!). So, we're making progress. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 07:08 PM
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Wouldn't care much about either so long as she doesn't get a disease or get pregnant... and understands that it opens the door for me to screw around as well, if I so desire. I wouldn't encourage a girlfriend to fuck around, of course, but do I really care deeply? Nope. It's not like we're going to live together or get married. Related, I play tennis with lots of different partners. No one has a problem with this. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 06:24 PM
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The "customer" is the knucklehead you answer to here. Not an "employer," no. But a distinction with a subtle difference. I ran a PE/merchant banking firm for a decade. We only had "customers" and we dictated the terms but... we still had to deal with these knuckleheads and make them happy. Sure, far better than having a boss, but... still folks to answer to. I've found retirement more pleasant.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:07 AM
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You define the terms of your contract to whom? Another person at another company, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:54 AM
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Avoiding cohabitation has definitely been part and parcel of my peace and happiness. I want married folks to be happy. I just don't see it very often. It's like they've been tricked by the Marriage Industrial Complex (including Hollywood) into believing that a certain lifestyle will bring them happiness. If divorce rates and marriage surveys are any indication, however, it's often a society-induced mirage.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:51 AM
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1099 contractor still answers to some knucklehead. But, yeah, it's better than being a cubicle drone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:40 AM
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Yes, but... the times they are a changin'. Almost 30% of adults in the US are childfree. In just thirty years childfree folks may be in the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:37 AM
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Be the employer. Start your own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:28 AM
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Post ten. It's about as easy as posting one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 01:43 PM
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Another reason to be highly skeptical of marriage. Even Chad's wife is highly likely to "beta buxx" him into a dead bedroom eventually. Oh the humanity! Life-long serial monogamy keeps looking better and better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:47 PM
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I don't know why people bother describing themselves. Just post a photo. A billion people do it every day on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:11 PM
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I don't even contemplate "a woman's prime" in a general sense because it's such an individual thing. Sure, lots of women's prime is 20-25, but I've dated women in their 30s and early-40s who were hotter than 95% of women in their 20s, and hotter than they themselves were at that (younger) age because they didn't start going to the gym, eating healthy, and getting cosmetic surgery until their 30s. The only "woman's prime" of relevance is that individual woman in question. Averages schmaverages.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:07 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:01 PM
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98.45% of women will accept you just for being 6ft before considering other factor Right. "Before considering other factors" being the operative phrase. Once obesity gets factored in, height is pretty much thrown out the window. So even if being obese reduces his options being tall more than offsets it No. You are incorrectly interpreting the data, as the "other factors" and their extent are not stipulated in the research. Yes, being tall will more than offset a certain amount of "unfit" - it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 06:00 PM
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He's 350 lbs for christ's sake. I don't think a few inches of height offsets extreme obesity in the looks department. There's something else going here that has nothing to do with appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 04:50 PM
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I'm insufficiently narcissistic to believe that my individual actions are having any meaningful impact on the larger collective. But, by all means, let me know when your best seller is published. [Just an fyi, "millennia" is plural; apologies for being pedantic.]
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:16 PM
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I tried to articulate the futility of what you're doing. But watching people engage in futile pursuits can be quite amusing. Now, push that rock up the hill once again Sisyphus. You're almost there!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:02 PM
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What you propose is to take no accountability as a collective. The notion of a "collective" where dating is concerned is beyond absurd. Do what you preach and go play elsewhere if i annoy you You don't annoy me. You amuse me. Keep at it. You're doing well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:42 PM
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I don't know why you or anyone else cares one iota what other folks are doing with respect to their dating/relationship lives. If someone's "making it hard for everyone" - regardless of the manner in which they're doing it - that's "everyone's" problem, not theirs. The moment people start complaining about what other folks are doing to affect their own dating lives, that's the same moment these people stop respecting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 05:17 PM
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X, Tiktok, and Instagram are also generally anonymous. I bet between these three there are at least a half billion accounts that are not anonymous (in that they have at least photos or videos of the user). That's a lot of people. But, yes, a lot of these accounts are also anonymous. I'd rather not have people I generally get along with get salty because I don't hold all their views. I'd also rather not have my employer, any future prospective employers, or anyone else to have that data with my a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:16 PM
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There's no need to bother trying to impress anyone. You're either impressive or you aren't. Why you single out women is your own personal mystery. I can assure you, however, that no one who comments 100x in a day on reddit is impressive to any sentient being; to the contrary, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:28 AM
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There's no reason to bother trying to impress a woman if you're jobless, neurodivergent, and unattractive. So, no, you don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 05:07 AM
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Millions and millions of people hold these various views. I don't think most of them are ashamed or fearful holding them. Many of them discuss them publicly on social media such as X, facebook, tiktok, youtube, spotify, etc. So, what are you, personally, scared of? What on Earth could a "passport bro" do to you? Give me an example of something that could reasonably happen to you if folks knew of one or more of your views here. I actually agree with you on a lot of these issues and would have zer…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 04:04 PM
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You can't hold her to the same standard' because you are not the standard setter. Sure I can. If I have more options that she has, I can holder to an even higher standard. This is all quite simple: If I'm not happy with the relationship - the details are irrelevant - then she's out. Why shouldn't she act in the same manner? If she finds my needs to be a burden then she should hit the bricks. If either party isn't happy, s/he should exit stage left.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:22 PM
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And to answer the OP's original question: To be desirable to this mindset, you have to become a non needy, high-value utility. Be interesting, be emotionally rock-solid, be amazing in bed (for her benefit), ask for nothing, and have your own entire life so you never burden her. You're not a man, you're a service provider for a one person economy. And you have to be okay with being discarded the second your performance dips. I'm actually quite ok with this, except the "ask for nothing" part. Beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:04 PM
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Ok, so you're afraid to discuss these issues on the internet absent the cloak of anonymity. I'm curious as to what views you hold that you feel are so controversial that your employer, friends, etc would be offended. What, specifically, concerns you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 04:53 PM
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You're afraid to discuss controversial topics absent the cloak of anonymity? Are you an enemy of the state? Is this sub considered controversial? Baffling.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 05:32 AM
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I think most men can't cheat. Most men fall into one of these categories: (1) too unattractive, (2) insufficient time/flexibility, or (3) petrified of getting caught and the ramifications thereof. Now, if you remove those three constraints, yes, most men would cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:34 PM
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I'm here for the lulz... and this sub produces plenty of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 03:14 PM
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If you can avoid disease and unwanted pregnancy - which is quite easy if you have a functioning brain - what are the negative consequences of sex? It's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:11 PM
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Let’s not act like “not being able to afford child care” is the same as being a sugar baby Agreed. They are not the same thing. But that doesn't mean that some women who aren't able to afford child care aren't also, for all intents and purposes, sugar babies. Both things can be true at the same time. if you don’t make enough money to be a sugar daddy, maybe don’t comment about how all these women are in a sugar baby relationship. It’s embarrassing. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. But s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:27 PM
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I wouldn't say I "corrected" you, but merely modified your comment. Some marriages, after all, are indistinguishable from sugar daddy relationships. I don't have time to correct every post on reddit - I leave that to the Top 1% commenters. Anyhow, I'm not always right.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 04:10 PM
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I don't work here. A common issue with redditors is they don't use qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:47 PM
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This phenomenon is mostly seen in suburbia and among wealthy urban folks. In only about 30% of marriages is the woman not working at all these days. So some fraction of that number isn't enormous in percentage terms but still fairly common. The larger point is that the presence of a marriage certificate doesn't define the nature of a relationship; the actions within that relationship do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 01:19 PM
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The two are often, although not always, one and the same. The mere presence of a marriage certificate doesn't change the economic/emotional reality of a relationship. Many marriages are just sugar daddy arrangements with extra steps (and kids).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:53 PM
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We're in agreement. Most people are delusional. "Simple" =/= "Easy." The concept that results determine your league is quite simple... but not at all easy for many people to accept. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:39 AM
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Self-ratings are worthless due to (the aptly-named) "self-rating bias." Your league is determined by the attractiveness of the women (or men) you've dated on your desired terms (LTR, casual, etc) on a regular basis over an extended period of time. Only results matter. If you're not fulfilling your objectives, you're aiming too high. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 05:29 AM
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Not that there's anything wrong with therapy, but why do I need to go? I'm quite happy with my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 04:15 PM
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I'm questioning the charm involved in encounters with the toothless unhoused. But, hey, different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:17 PM
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I agree, I don't think all SAHMs are sugar babies. Although certainly many are. I think marriages often end up in a position where the husband is involved in this exchange but is unaware of it until deep into the marriage. But back to Brad Pitt... would his girlfriend stay with him if she had to pay her own way? I seriously doubt she could maintain that lifestyle on her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 06:13 PM
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Should any relationship where the woman isn't working, or her lifestyle is being heavily subsidized, be considered "sugaring"... including a lot of marriages? Being unemployed for 6 months is one of the leading predictors of divorce, after all. I find it curious that a non-marital relationship that has many of the same earmarks as marriage (particularly regarding finances) is labeled as "sugaring" while that similar marriage is not, while functionally they may be the same thing. Is Brad Pitt a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:14 PM
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You're obese, homeless, spend your days smoking weed and gaming, and have a penchant for prostitutes. All of which is ok by me, if that's your bag; to each their own. But I'm unaware of any world in which this is considered even remotely attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 11:53 AM
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We've seen the same with women's bodies, big boobs ; big ass and narrow waist have always been attracitve but social media made it to a point it wasn't human anymore. I'm totally guilty of this. Ha! But I wonder if it's social media or just that so many more women today are very fit and have had surgeries than in the past. Yes, it's still a small percentage of the total (and, yes, the average woman is much fatter today), but in absolute numbers there are so many more super hot women today than i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:00 AM
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Define "losing in the long run." I've been quite satisfied with my dating life over the long run (about four decades thus far). If I stopped dating tomorrow I'd consider it all worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 05:06 PM
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If she's not putting in much effort, she doesn't like you very much. And vice versa. You move on. People who actually like each other put in some effort. I thought this was common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 02:33 PM
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I'm extraordinarily shallow when it comes to a romantic relationship; that is, one involving sex. On the other hand, where friendship is concerned, I'm not the least bit shallow. The difference is sex. I'm not attracted to women who aren't extremely attractive by my standards. And I don't complain when women feel the same way. I can relate. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:21 PM
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I want a relationship. I just don't want marriage, kids, or cohabitation. I don't buy into the traditional notion that in order to be in a fulfilling long-term relationship you need to be married, living with someone, or share kids with them. Plenty of women today are happy to be in a relationship with a guy in which they're close friends, have sex, and share most parts - but not all - of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:18 PM
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To me personally... Friendship and connection are very important. Sex with someone I get along with is very important. But "romantic love" (including marriage/cohabitation) - that is, a deep connection with someone you're in a sexual relationship with - holds no value to me. There was a time when it did and those were good times. But that ship has sailed. And I'm as happy as I've ever been. Of course, I can't speak for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:26 PM
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It's not so much a conundrum as a curiosity. Anyhow, I suppose my two questions are: (1) What has changed over the last 10 or so years to make height such a big issue for Gen Z? It can't just be that social media tells people what they're supposed to be attracted to. I don't think people are that stupid; that is, they're attracted to what they're attracted to regardless of what other people tell them. Although maybe that's just been my experience. (2) Why is this largely a US/EU phenomenon? Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:20 PM
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At 58 I'm older than 95%+ of redditors (I think). I'm also 5'7. My account is over eight years old. Prior to joining reddit it had never occurred to me that I was considered lesser in any aspect of my life, much less "almost every" aspect. I still don't see it despite so many folks here trying to convince me otherwise. Having said that, if I were 5'4 maybe I'd view things differently. Also, I've lived (mostly) in Latin America for over a decade. Folks here are both shorter and don't seem to care…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 12:44 AM
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Boomers are actually 60+. Xers are in their 40s and 50s. Just to be pedantic. But I digress. I know nothing about Meetup or anything else remotely like that. I haven't been on a dating app in many years. I've met most of my dates over the last ten years either directly or indirectly through tennis, padel, dog rescue, or mutual friends. I tell folks that padel is one of the most social sports in the world. Like pickleball - but more difficult - it's designed for socializing, as are the clubs. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:04 PM
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I'm not. Plenty of folks aren't but, yes, the overwhelming majority are. The question is: why? A large majority of these same redditors have social media accounts on which they are not anonymous (instagram/tiktok/facebook/etc). Why do they become so shy on reddit? I can only think of fear, shame, and/or the desire to be uncivil without repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:19 AM
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Ok, so why the anonymity? Fear of one's views being discovered, shame regarding such views, or the (bizarre) desire to be uncivil without repercussions? Or possibly all three.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:08 AM
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I don't disagree with you here but it raises a question: How much "strength" does anyone have who is only willing to discuss/debate issues anonymously? That's a rhetorical question. It's not like folks here are enemies of the State, whistleblowers, or in witness protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 04:00 AM
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An assessment should be based on results. And in terms of results I feel like I've been unfathomably fortunate. So I have nothing to complain about. Edit: misspelling
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 01:15 AM
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Most men don’t like surgically enhanced women. Tell that to the porn industry and the vast majority of instagram thots/models. And: https://www.joe.co.uk/fitness-health/this-is-how-many-men-prefer-fake-breasts-to-the-real-thing-22318 . <<< Not that this is the last word, of course; it's just a data point. That’s why there are a significantly lot more 20 year old porn stars than 40 year old porn stars Two things. One, apparently searches for MILF sex are among the top 2 searches for porn. (https:…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:18 PM
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The average 20 year old is not much overweight. All of the reported stats suggest otherwise. Are you a man or a woman. I suspect you are a woman. You suspect incorrectly. The photo on my reddit profile, a ten-second perusal of my post history, or clicking on the link on my profile makes this obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 03:55 PM
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I'm going to disagree with that last sentence. The average 20-year old woman in the US is overweight. (Over 1/3 of women in their twenties are obese.) A super fit, attractive, surgically-enhanced 40-year old woman old is far more attractive than the average (chubby) 20-year old, albeit largely because it's such a weak comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 04:22 AM
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I like laughing. And this sub provides ample material for laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:03 PM
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This sounds like the real world where people interact face-to-face, as opposed to the online echo chamber where a lot of redditors spend their lives. You're confusing folks here. Shame on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 03:57 PM
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Exactly my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 06:42 PM
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I'm ok with this as long as neither party is anonymous. If you're going to make a public claim about someone in this context, you should do it under your own name. Anonymity - absent being a corporate whistleblower or in witness protection (or similar) - is one of the scourges of the internet. It just allows LARPers, frauds, liars, bitter exes, etc to run rampant. See: Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 03:22 PM
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That sub is one of my favorites. The height of unintentional comedy. Not entirely unlike this one, frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 02:19 PM
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I've dated some women with OF accounts. They were only modestly successful, not famous at all. I made content with them sometimes. I don't care at all. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 05:08 AM
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I had a few girlfriends (in the US) in my 20s, one was multi-year, but it was otherwise sporadic. I didn't really feel in control of the dating process. I lived a bit of a broke musician lifestyle until I was 25, then broke grad school student for a couple of years, then became fairly successful. I got a lot more interest from more attractive women starting in my early-30s, and a lot more friends trying to set me up with these women. And it just increased over time. I retired in my mid-40s, got …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 04:42 PM
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Hmmm... I was business partners with a Vanderbilt/Whitney heir. He had a pretty large trust fund and his parents were quite wealthy. Also, Gloria Vanderbilt was quite wealthy post-1970. I'm just reporting.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:20 AM
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I'm not following what, specifically, your point is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:28 PM
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No thanks. I'm not that invested in this. But be my guest. Probably a google search away.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:02 PM
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I find 95% of women - many quite nice and generically attractive - insufficiently attractive for sex, so I can't complain about women's standards. Since we're using statistics, over 70% of men in the US are overweight (and over half of that group are obese), so it's not like the "average man" is offering much in the looks department. But, of course, the same can be said of the average woman, so there's that. It's probably best to ignore the stats where (somewhat) subjective things like attractio…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:44 PM
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Why would men need to stop complaining and whining ever? Because in this particular case it's a complete waste of time. It accomplishes nothing. So, personally, I don't see the point. You want to post a negative yelp review about a restaurant? Ok, maybe they'll read it and try to improve. But these big picture, generalized complaints about women (or men, for that matter) accomplish zippo so far as I can tell. It's just shouting into the void.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 09:16 PM
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You want me to name the people that I know, and their circumstances, that would be exceptions to your rule? Sounds time consuming. Sorry, but I'm just not that invested in the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 09:29 PM
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All The vast majority of relationships are transactional to some extent. But that "to some extent" is a very wide spectrum. And the nature of the "transactional" element isn't always money. It can be time, attention, labor, etc etc. Just my two cents, of course. I guess I'm a stickler for qualifiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 08:47 PM
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If a woman (or man) can make money from OF/online content and transition into something with more long-term sustainability... great. (I think a lot of women get stuck in this kind of work - because it can be pretty easy money - which is less great.) I've known a number of OF/online "models" (to use the term of art), and dated a few. I've been in a fair amount of OF content with various women. I've lived in Colombia for over half the year for about six years now. Through a friend, years ago I met…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:02 PM
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Oh, my bet is that the only time you find someone "in particular's" opinion to be irrelevant is when it is diametrically opposed to your own. Otherwise you almost break your finger racing to upvote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:35 PM
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they despise women that were ran through by multiple men. Don't care at all. In fact, having more experience (up to a point, I suppose) is a good thing in my book. I play tennis and padel competitively. I'd prefer not to play with or teach beginners. Same goes for sex. It's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual, contrary to what the religious wackos would have us believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:14 PM
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Men absolutely love women in makeup and plastic surgery. Generally true, I think. I'm not wild about makeup, personally, but I do love it when women invest in enhancements. I admire that kind of dedication to looking great (or, "a particular way" at least). Women get plastic surgery for their own enjoyment. Exactly. Everybody wins.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:55 PM
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True. I imagine the CDC's bar for "healthy" is simply "not obviously unhealthy." Which is fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:44 PM
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As am I.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 08:09 PM
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Pickleball and walking are exercises. Compared to doing nothing, yes. If distance running is at the far end of one end of the "exercise" spectrum then I suppose something has to be at the far end of the other end. Makes me wonder what you consider "overweight". Well, the average person, for sure. We know this from the research, which is voluminous. Probably at least two-thirds of adults. It's not that surprising. Most people are pretty inactive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:54 PM
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My experience has been that one has little or nothing to do with the other. But I imagine our respective life experiences are so dissimilar as to be virtually unrecognizable by the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:37 PM
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Those are serious exercises. Agree to disagree. Like golf, I'd classify these as "activities," not exercise. Maybe if you're 75 years old they'd qualify. But that's just me. Live in any major city and it's likely well over 50%. Not a chance. I've lived in major cities for most of my life - DC, NYC, Chicago, London, San Diego, Tijuana, Medellin. Overweight people who don't exercise as far as the eye can see. And 350 minutes of exercise per week? Pretty rare. You're right that the overweight/obesi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:31 PM
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What if a man your age enjoys being your platonic friend (and has other platonic friendships with women/men your age) but has sexual relationships with women in, say, their 30s? That is, he's sexually attracted to younger women but it has no bearing on his (male or female) friendships. How does this reflect on his intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:13 PM
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I think people's bodies are very different in this regard. I'm 57. I don't really contemplate what I eat, never have. I have a see-food diet - I see food and I eat it. But I'm extremely fit, even for someone half my age. I never set foot in a gym - so no weights - but I play competitive padel and tennis about 10 hours per week (and one daily 5-minute plank), which is all cardio. It's exhausting, particularly in the heat, humidity and high altitude where I'm generally playing. I imagine if I wasn…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:06 PM
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The CDC recommends about 150 minutes of exercise a week, but only about 25% of Americans do this. (This is actually the minimum. To look like a model, I recommend going an hour almost every day.) I'm with you. I think 350 minutes/week (that's almost an hour a day for six days) is necessary to be really fit. And this doesn't include walking or pickleball, etc. It has to be serious exercise. I suspect well below 10% of folks 30+ do this. Which results in what we see around us...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 06:53 PM
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I mean to be fair that's what is going to happen when you are a man raised in a society that tells you that you are worthless and your life has no meaning if you're not providing for women. We live in the same world (I'm pretty sure), and I've never felt this way. But... if society did try to tell me this... I would laugh in its face. And then have a sandwich. Society's opinion of me has no value to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:45 PM
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I'm saying you live in a constant state of fear and that must be quite emasculating. Can't take you seriously. Quoted for irony. Pot, meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:31 PM
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I've been on reddit - as myself, non-anonymous - for over eight years. Offended all manner of folks, I'd imagine... with zero issues. In fact, I can't even think of how someone would go about doxxing me, but I welcome anyone to give it a shot. You do realize that billions of people have facebook, instagram, tiktok, X, etc accounts in which they're just... themselves. Sharing photos, opinions, etc. Not hiding from anyone. And they're unconcerned... despite the internet being "full of psychos." It…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:16 PM
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I strive for more gentle honesty. Then why are you anonymous here? I'm not. Seems unnecessary if you're successful with this "gentle honesty."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 05:16 PM
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Dishonesty - lying in all of its various degrees and forms - is the social and political lubricant of the world. If world leaders, for example, started telling each other exactly what they thought of each other with no filter, the world would blow up in about 5 minutes. I'm quite certain that you don't tell people exactly what you think of them all the time... unless you can hide anonymously behind your keyboard, that is. Your frustration with dishonesty sounds like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 02:15 PM
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Self respecting men... No True Scotsman fallacy. I play tennis and padel and don't want to play with beginners (or even intermediate players, frankly). Why do I want to have sex with an inexperienced woman? Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It's not some purity ritual. A high value man... I find the pill lexicon amusing. People with options don't even contemplate such terms. They're too busy living. They can't be bothered.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:00 PM
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What does true crime have that fictional crime dramas don’t? What does a history book have that historical fiction doesn't? What do non-fiction books have that works of fiction don't? Some people simply prefer entertainment related to events/incidences that actually happened. I have no opinion on the matter - I'm just reporting. I think it’s immoral, why would I watch it? That's great. To each their own. But... perhaps you might want to actually watch some true crime before ranting and raving ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 06:08 PM
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Yes, yes, so you keep on saying...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 05:58 PM
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Can’t you get the same entertainment value from fictional crime dramas, though? Sure, similar. Just as you can go to 50 different restaurants for similar culinary value. I'm not sure what your point is. Do you have a source supporting your assertion that the families of victims are usually involved? What the...? Have you never actually seen a true crime show? Interviews with family and friends of the victim(s) are a staple of these shows. You just wrote a whole screed on the immorality of the ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:42 AM
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That's an "audition video", not a "tape"... which you would know if your story was true.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 02:36 AM
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Ah, ok, then this statement should be amended to: "Warm approach works best but you I have maybe 1-2 opportunities in life to do that past a certain age." That clears up any confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 05:15 PM
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Warm approach works best but you have maybe 1-2 opportunities in life to do that past a certain age. I'm 57. Over the last ten years I've probably had about a dozen "relationships/situationships" lasting from a couple of months to 2+ years. I met only one of these women on a dating app. The rest I met at social events (held by friends), introduced by friends, dog rescue events, and playing tennis and padel. If you have a good social network, the opportunities are ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 04:28 PM
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"Tapes"? Really? Was this forty years ago? Did you have a big bushy mustache? I guess if you hang out on reddit long enough, you'll see pretty much every different bizarre form of LARPing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 03:02 PM
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The trauma of other human beings is not your valid entertainment. I enjoy true crime. I'm a male. I don't think the entertainment comes from seeing the "trauma of other human beings." On the contrary, most of the entertainment value comes from the manner in which law enforcement goes out about capturing the perpetrators; probably 80%+ of the typical true crime book/show/podcast is spent on this aspect of the crime(s). And it's often pretty fascinating. Related, it's interesting that friends and …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:53 PM
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For you, a lot. You're not very clever. You asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:27 AM
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I imagine it's not easy to navigate through life when there is such a large gulf between the exhalted manner in which you perceive yourself and the sad reality of how others perceive you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:22 AM
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Oh, I'd say folks' posts and comments here provide pretty good insights into their psyches. You, for example, are quite transparent. As am I. The biggest difference between us being that you're anonymous because you're afraid to actually attach your name to your beliefs. Which speaks volumes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 02:15 AM
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But you brought the issue up... not me. Imagine a world where every affirmative claim is accepted without proof. That would be a world full of sheep indeed. You can't have it both ways. Thus, absent proof of your own unsolicited claim... you're the sheep.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:57 AM
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But you're a sheep, right? An anonymous, subservient, rent-paying wage-slave? If you fancy yourself a shepherd, by all means make your case. I'm happy to be proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 01:46 AM
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I don't know what I'm supposed to be "committing" to. You should try things you enjoy doing, not because they're part of some "ABCmaxxing improvement" protocol. If you enjoy it, do it. If the gym is boring... you do something else that you actually enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:39 AM
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I don't know what these "conditions" are so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 12:28 AM
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Not quite. Rising stock prices is a hedge against inflation. It allows companies to run at a profit without passing all costs onto the consumer. This is pure nonsense. Rising stock prices are a hedge against inflation for those that invest in companies capable of increasing the prices of the products/services they sell. Rising stock prices do NOT "allow companies to run at a profit without passing all costs onto the consumer." Rising stock prices do, however, allow some companies to operate at a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:33 PM
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So play sports. I haven't been inside a gym in... decades, I'm thinking. Sports can be fun; the gym is (mostly) boring, I'm guessing. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:11 PM
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You've put women and sex on a pedestal, likely the result of religious and/or societal indoctrination. Sex is not some magical purity ritual; it's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. Many folks are perfectly happy viewing it essentially as a hobby, where it doesn't matter if the other person doesn't "actually give a fuck" about them. I play tennis and padel. I don't need the folks I play with to have deep feelings for me to enjoy playing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 03:56 PM
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Well, yeah, I guess it's difficult as a woman to fully relate to men where romantic/sex issues are concerned. And vice versa. So, I don't really blame them. I suppose I find these cross-misconceptions between the sexes a bit amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 01:14 AM
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In the Sea of Bizarre Commentary that comprises this sub... this is a rare, interesting observation. Hardly anyone will read it, and I'm not sure what it means in practical terms, but... it is interesting. Thanks for sharing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/25 09:23 PM
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Do you think people don’t use science and/or time to fill in the gaps of things that aren’t currently explainable? I think some people make educated guesses based on science, yes. And others make up fairy tales. And everything in between. I’m willing to bet you prefer to live in certain fairy-tale driven societies over other ones. You most likely live like a Christian instead of a relative moralist. Sure, I satisfice; that is, I take the least bad solution. I don't live much like a christian, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 09:15 PM
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That's hard to believe. I'd need to see a poll on this. I realize this sub is rife with delusion but... that's a bit much. But, hey, what do I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 10:56 PM
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Assuming that a woman can tolerate awful sex with a man who hunches away on her body in a frenzied sweat for even a year is a bridge too far. I don't think this is the norm. But I also don't think it's that uncommon. Especially once we get into the realm of high incomes/high status. I mean, I know it's an outlier but... how many years into their marriage would Melania have applied your description above to her and Donald's sex life? I doubt it was too far. He hasn't been a dashing handsome man f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:54 PM
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This looks like a picture of success. I fail to see what's wrong with casual sex involving consenting adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:44 PM
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The only way a marriage retains longevity is if both partners are either mutually attracted, or both are asexual. I think both are fairly rare. I think a lot (most?) of marriages begin with mutual attraction (or at least some attraction). But after kids, friendship familiarity, a couple of decades pass, declining libidos, the stresses of everyday life, etc... I think that sexual attraction is very rarely maintained. I don't care if you're Mr and Mrs America. "Familiarity breeds contempt," or in …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:40 PM
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Ask yourself why every major society (prior to contacting one another) had a similar set of rules for controlling men and women. All of these societies independently conjured up fairy tales, gods, witchcraft and other forms of magical thinking to explain the world around them. It seems to be something the overwhelming majority of humans are just wired to do. One would have to have an unparalleled level of egocentricity to think they know better than millennia’s of people. I guess I'll never have…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 09:14 PM
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1, 2 and 3... generally true. Your personal experience doesn't remove the stats Indeed but... one's personal experience is the only thing that matter's to one's life. The "stats" are irrelevant if they don't apply to you. The stats say... most people are overweight, most people are unattractive, old people get fat and bald, most people don't make much money, etc etc etc. Why would anyone want to be a part of these statistical groups...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/25 02:10 AM
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or just not at all? Most of my friends are either partnered up or don't care that they're not. So it's mostly not at all. If men complain about dating here, they do it almost exclusively among close friends they trust, I don't really see the point in complaining about it. I doubt it helps much. Spaces IRL are more difficult and spaces online are significantly easier. I've found the opposite to be true. But that's just me. most younger men and boys find it simply not worth it to try so hard for n…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:02 PM
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No, I don't hear much about dating woes. I don't know anything about this silencing. But these are folks in their 40s/50s, not young people. I get the impression most young people are fiddling with their phones, gaming, or spending most of their time on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:15 PM
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Funny, I was thinking, well at least he got a couple of things right. Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 03:16 AM
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I think people are just wired differently in this regard. Some folks have (or think they have) this "true love" you're talking about and are still miserable. Others just don't need it to lead a contented life. I've probably seen every different mix of this. Which is why I'm reluctant to generalize on such issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 11:35 PM
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I mostly agree with this. But it engenders a question: why get married if the crux of it is long conversations? "Everything else in marriage is transitory" is a nod to romantic love; that is, an acknowledgement that it doesn't last. I have long conversations with a lot of folks - men, women, family, friends, etc. I have no desire to marry, or cohabitate with, any of them; the long conversations can continue without any such formal arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 10:01 PM
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Activities and friend groups, mostly. I've met prior girlfriends through introductions from friends, parties, dog rescue events, tennis and padel groups/clubs, language exchanges, etc etc. If anything, I think it's gotten easier over time. But maybe that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:13 PM
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The physical spaces exist, but the social interactions that happen inside them are stifled and strangled, so the social space inside the physical location is basically dead. I guess I haven't noticed any of this. It all seems pretty much the same to me. Of course, I've lived in Latin America for many years now. Maybe things are different in the US/Europe, but I hear nothing of this from my friends who live in these places.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 05:09 PM
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What are examples of these "3rd spaces"? I've got a pretty active social life and I can't think of a single type of place I would go to meet people 15 years ago that doesn't exist today.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 06:47 AM
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If you can handle the commute - or work from home - that can work really well. It is amazing, however - I'm sure you see this with folks you know - how many people can earn a lot of (after-tax) money and piss most of it away through lifestyle expenses. When I used to work I knew a lot of folks (not all of them, thankfully) who made upwards of a half million a year and it mostly just disappeared.... half to Uncle Sam, rent/mortage(s), private school, cars, clubs, socializing, vacations, and... *p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 05:06 PM
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Very true... although I'd point out that a lot of those folks live in HCoL areas and the majority of that income does a disappearing act via taxes and spending. If you're making $200K in Manhattan, for example, you're fine if you're single. But add in a wife and kid and you could be under water pretty quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 03:52 PM
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Reddit, and the internet generally, is full of LARPing liars. Surely you know this. If you make no exceptional claims, then no one will ask you to prove them. But as Carl Sagan liked to say (the Sagan Standard), "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You're right, you don't have anything to prove to a stranger. But that stranger also should not believe you in the absence of such proof. You yourself would likely apply the exact same standard. My view is: never make any remotely ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 07:04 PM
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What is a terp?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 03:52 PM
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you’ll have an easier time in life I doubt this is realistically possible. My life is a cakewalk. And undeservedly so, if I'm being honest. not everything people do is for you File under: Blinding Glimpse of the Obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 03:01 AM
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False equivalence. When you include everything appearance-related - beauty products, hair care, hair styling, manicures, pedicures, clothes, shoes, etc etc - the average woman spends several times what the average man spends, and she spends a lot more time on grooming as well (again, on average). All of which is fine, by the way. If I suggest that most people who buy Rolls Royces are highly status conscious I doubt you're going to retort, "Well, most people drive cars."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:37 AM
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women who have been sexualized since before puberty seem to be happier and relieved when they get older. After all, if you spent your entire adulthood getting creeped on by uggos and oldies, wouldn’t you be relieved when that type of attention dies down? Perhaps but, if so, why do so many of these same women bother wearing make-up, flattering clothing, etc when they're younger? Even a fairly attractive young woman can look quite plain if she just doesn't bother dolling/styling herself up at all.…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 10:07 PM
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There are always people better than you that she can transactionally choose to love more than you Perhaps but... by this logic there are always women better than her that a man can transactionally choose to desire more than her. It cuts both ways. instilling these counterproductive notions in her mind only sets you up for inevitable failure. Why is a relationship ending considered a "failure"? It could be viewed as a total success. To quote Roger Sterling, "When god closes a door, he opens a dre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 10:43 PM
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Humans are meant to have romantic love, end of story. If you're defining "romantic love" as some sort of deep lifelong bond including sexual attraction that lasts essentially a lifetime, I think you're incorrect. This version of "romantic love" is largely (albeit not entirely) a fiction created by the Church, the Hollywood Industrial Complex, Society, etc. It's incredibly rare, although many humans do regrettably buy into this myth. Now, if you mean deep lifelong friendships (whether male or fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 04:14 AM
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I have zero interest in (1) cohabitating with someone, (2) sharing finances with someone, (3) having kids, or (4) being monogamous for more than X years at a time. So, given my preferences... sell me on marriage. What are the upsides?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:19 PM
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The only men who put up with their shitty personalities just use them for their bodies because they can't form a genuine relationship with many of them. For the sake of argument let's assume this is true (I have no opinion). Why do these men need to form a "genuine relationship" - whatever that is - with a woman? Maybe it's just not something they desire or need. Maybe sex is all they need from a woman to be content. If this is the case, why is this a bad thing? If a man can be happy without hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 07:57 PM
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Avoiding reproduction has been one of this living creature's primary goals. Which I have achieved with the assistance of a vasectomy early in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 02:47 PM
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There are relationship statuses that lie between fuck buddies and marriage. My longest relationship was over 10 years and I've been in several that lasted 2-3 years. And, of course, many that have only lasted a few months or less. But if your definition of "partner" is restricted to someone you spend your entire life with then no, I've managed to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:14 PM
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I enjoy having a partner. I've had a lot of them. But a lifetime partner? And kids? Noooo thanks. That's some combination of an anchor and a prison. I pass. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 02:42 PM
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In the realm of dating and relationships I'm not sure I or anyone else should pay much attention to statistics. (I'm not suggesting statistics don't have their place, of course.) I'm a unique individual, after all, participating in an activity exhibiting a tremendous degree of subjectivity. But to each their own, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:45 AM
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Dating in my mid-20s to mid-30s was pretty good. Then I was in a decade-long relationship. Dating from my mid-40s to now (mid-50s) has been great, better than my 20s and 30s. But I have very different social groups now and haven't lived in the US for a long time so I don't really know how the dating world works there anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:13 PM
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I think the swing issue here will actually be... personality. If Guy A is fit, average height, makes $1 million a year and is really charming... he's going to equalize himself with Guy B (to a certain extent). But if Guy A is milquetoast while Guy B is really charming... yeah, Guy B is going to eat his lunch; money can't save Guy A here. If you're making $1 million a year there's probably something unique or interesting about you. At a minimum you're very highly skilled at something, which is (o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 10:06 PM
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Welp, sounds like you're avoiding women and vice versa. Which sounds like the best plan for all involved. Given your views, however, I do find it odd how much time and energy you devote to thinking and commenting about women. It reminds me of the famous elevator scene in Mad Men: Ginsberg: I feel bad for you. Don Draper: I don't think of you at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 08:00 PM
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Other peoples' delusions don't really bother me much; on the contrary, they're often quite amusing. This is reddit's principal value proposition, after all. If only folks weren't anonymous and we could attach their delusions to real people... now that would really be something. I dare to dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:29 PM
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Agree but with a modification: Some Most people just need to accept that some most of us are ordinary-to-ugly and will never get a 19 year old virgin porn star lookalike. Fixed that for you. Indeed, "most" is not a pleasant place to be here. And denial is ubiquitous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:16 PM
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The older guys will be stuck with the older women, as always. "Most" and "stuck," yes. The fate of so many of these "mosts" is quite unpleasant. Such is life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:05 PM
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So it's all quite simple. If you aren't critical of "older men" hitting on younger women, then you can be critical of fit guys complaining about overweight women hitting on them. But if you're ok with folks referring to "wrinkly old creeps" then... well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I don't really care what folks do in any of these cases, but it would be nice if they were consistent with their prejudices and pejoratives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:49 PM
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Just for consistency's sake, is it culturally acceptable to refer to unfit women who want to date fit men as "creepy fat cows"?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 05:17 AM
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Indeed, self-deception is rampant - both genders engage with abandon. Alas, only empirical results matter; everything else is just conjecture. Oddly, I've actually never been in a Hooters...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:27 AM
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If your expectations are sufficiently low, happiness is easily achieved. That's not a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:08 AM
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Fortunately the number is much greater than 1 in 100 million (ha!). Even here on Reddit there's r/agegap (an odd sub where, surprisingly, many of the posters are women from what I recall). Plenty of older men have no issues attracting younger women... but, no, they're not the paunchy, balding, socially awkward milquetoasts you seem to be surrounded by in Humdrum, USA. Regardless, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 03:04 AM
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I think you're quite normal in that regard. But there are many exceptions, in absolute, if not percentage, terms. Fortunately the world is brimming with variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 02:26 AM
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Most older guys age quite poorly - they let themselves go, especially if married with kids. Having said that, "balding, paunchy, awkward" men are unattractive at every age... not just when they're older.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:22 AM
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That is a sad state of affairs. My experience has been the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:16 AM
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Related, the biggest problem with sex with prostitutes is that the quality is generally quite poor. It's actually not easy to fake real sexual attraction and enjoyment when you're repulsed by your client, which is the norm. Unless you're really paying up ($1,000+ ?), it's a volume business and she just wants you finished as quickly as possible so she can move on to the next customer. And lest we forget... condoms (uggh). Paying for sex is a great idea in theory, not so much in reality. Unless yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 02:58 AM
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I saw some survey a while back that reported 90% of people - men and women - dislike condoms, and about half of that number disliked them intensely. In a new relationship I'll use a condom once or twice but if the relationship has legs she'll have to get tested because continued use of a condom is a dealbreaker for me. I've had a vasectomy, never had an STD, get tested regularly, and don't even consider use of a condom as qualifying as sex. It's like getting a foot massage with your slippers on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 07:51 PM
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I'm 57 and I've been in a lot of relationships - from a few months to ten years. If that's hedonism in your lexicon then, yup, hedonism forever. I find it quite satisfying. I'm certainly not getting married. Different strokes and all...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:56 AM
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Sex is an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. It needs not have some deeper purpose or meaning. Just avoid pregnancy and disease. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:48 AM
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That last paragraph is right on the mark. A question is... why do so many men - just to narrow the focus - with very similar characteristics/backgrounds have such dramatically different levels of confidence? You can often see this within families, among brothers. I don't know the answer. I imagine it's somehow tied to genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:58 PM
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Well, yes, if your own league is "humans" it won't make you more appealing to (non-existent) "super-humans." You're stuck in the human league.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:37 PM
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Sure I dated all the time but I wasn't getting nearly the attention that the very good looking star team mate got. So you're not particularly attractive. Imagine if you hadn't been a star athlete. Probably would have been far worse. Name some examples of status? In the ghetto - being a drug dealer. In a bumphuck small town - being Sheriff... or a drug dealer Politician Forgetting about the attractiveness of money itself - let's assume that's zero - being wealthy in and of itself is often a statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:12 AM
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So... you are married with kids. My question is... if you believe money/status are important in providing for them... why do you have neither? Is it because it took you until 35 to realize it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 03:26 AM
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Oh and once you have kids. Money and status becomes a way to take care of them. So still dealing with procreation. Well, you're married and have kids but you're not particularly successful. So... why? You say it's important but you're a mediocre white collar wage slave. Your outcome seems at odds with your stated worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 02:14 AM
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By all means, define "nonsense" in your world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 03:01 PM
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Every relationship you'll have in your life - mother, father, sister, brother, friend, boss, employee, neighbor, etc etc - will involve some level of give-and-take (or "nonsense" in your parlance). That doesn't mean you should avoid such relationships altogether. It simply means you have to manage them all accordingly to achieve a positive result (for yourself). Girlfriends are no different. This seems like a blinding glimpse of the obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 07:09 AM
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The "nonsense" doesn't seem particularly burdensome to me. Of course, I'm not married (nor have any interest in it). Being in a non-cohabitating relationship just doesn't seem that onerous. And if you enjoy condom-free sex with attractive women, well, a relationship (of sorts) is likely your best path. I haven't found women to be particularly vexatious. Although I could see this happening in the context of marriage, living together, or just dating a bad match. "Choosing wisely" probably mitigate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 06:58 AM
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I wonder how much of the issue is simply internet/gaming/social media addiction. In other words, the issue isn't really that there aren't outlets for socializing in person but rather that a lot of folks are addicted to their online activities, which provide some modicum of utility, and then they feel lonely because their addiction doesn't allow them to get out and participate in the world, which is a normal human need. Most drug addicts don't want to be anti-social; they're anti-social because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:05 PM
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superficially social spaces (e.g - the apps you mentioned) But... these apps are used to meet people. In person. People I otherwise wouldn't have met. And can meet outside of that specific activity - tennis in this case - if I so choose. I think it's quite amazing. When I began my working life, it was totally normal to have a knock-off beer with your workmates on Friday afternoon. When I'm in Mexico (Baja) I meet a group of (non-work) friends in San Diego almost every Friday night for beers and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 07:25 AM
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there were outlets and places that existed back then that got bulldozed by the onrush of late capitalism. What are these places? I've asked this question a couple of times in the last year or so and never gotten an answer. I can't think of a single type of place that I went thirty years ago that doesn't exist today. But perhaps there were places I never went (or was aware of) years ago that aren't around today. I find it easier than ever to socialize today largely because of technology. If I'm i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 05:21 AM
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I seriously doubt it but I can't say for certain. It's a hypothetical I'm not faced with. Where you stand depends upon where you sit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:57 AM
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To what end? Well, I like dating and having sex with attractive, sex-positive women that have decent personalities. I have no interest in marriage, kids, or cohabitation. So far, so good - I have no material complaints.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 05:50 AM
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But how else are these women going to learn? They need to get a taste of their own medicine. Making them like me and then breaking up with them over a physical trait, which they are insecure about, is the best way to give them the same treatment they give men. Why even bother with all of this business. No one cares. You're not the leader of some union; other men don't care what you're doing. This goal of "getting women to learn" is a complete waste of time. It reeks of bitterness and revenge fan…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 10:41 PM
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Uff. These had to be some real beasts. On the other hand, I think I saw this happen in a movie. Once.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 04:10 PM
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Why are they the worst? They’re not into you for you, they’re into the material stuff you can bring. I suspect that women view the achievement of "status" (whether through power, wealth, career, or whathaveyou) as an indicator of "success." And "success" is viewed as a sexually attractive personality trait separate and apart from what can be provided economically. Let's recall high school. I knew plenty of average-looking guys that excelled as athletes or musicians that got plenty of female atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:33 PM
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you should invest NO money into any dates you have with women unless they're already your girlfriend or wife. If your presence alone isn’t enough then you’re just coping by trying to compensate for a lack of genuine attraction. If you don't have much money, sure. If you're wealthy you don't care what a date costs - it's negligible. It's beneath consideration. Why inconvenience yourself just because other guys are poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:25 AM
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Unfortunately there aren't any great shortcuts where sex/relationships are is concerned. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 05:50 AM
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Zero. The sex will likely be terrible; mediocre at best (and condom for sure). Great idea on paper, however; just not so great in reality. Better and easier to hire an actual housekeeper/cook/etc and, separately, find a girlfriend that actually wants to be with me. Unfortunately there aren't any great shortcuts where sex/relationships are concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:40 AM
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I have a lot of it on video, and if I get bored this weekend I’ll blur some things and post it here. Please do. Sounds bizarre. The man looked exactly like Leonardo DiCaprio with less hair and a missing canine. Poor Leo. He's like the anti-Brad Pitt. He's just turned into an unkempt oompa loompa. Fine actor, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:45 PM
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You know that saying, There's no "I" in "team". Well there's no "me" in team either. I'm perfectly happy with the status quo so I'm going to pass on cartel membership. But best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:19 AM
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I find talking about other peoples' relationships pretty boring, generally. I assume others feel the same way so I never bring mine up unsolicited. And if someone asks, I keep the discussion short. I mean... who cares? I like women. In reality. Fantasy doesn't interest me much... unless it's going to morph into reality, that is. But no amount of discussion is going to help in that department; that's going to require doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:14 AM
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A fairly small percentage of men are into bodybuilding or cosmetic surgery. And most men don't make much money. So if guys are doing or contemplating these things to attract women... most of them are failing miserably. But more importantly... why does anyone really care how other men are managing their relationships? Why is this any of my, or anyone else's, concern? This seems like a highly personal, private matter so full of individual nuance that it's not particularly fit for a reddit sub. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 05:01 AM
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At 40 years of life, even being bisexual and this attracted (potentially) to “anyone”, I have never witnessed these weird “men and women CANT BE FRIENDS” scenarios. Sir, this is a reddit sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:26 PM
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Because they are not degenerates. Probably not all degenerates (although a lot likely are) but at a minimum they clearly shouldn't have reproduced. Most people are marshmallow eaters, after all. What can you do... Which btw do you have children and a wife? Please. Telling someone who is deeply wired to want a relationship and their own family to just fill their life with meaningless garbage like hobbies and career. If you mean "meaningless" to them... I agree. But I imagine a lot of these folks …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:23 PM
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I had a blast in the first stages of drug addiction. It was fantastic. Eventually the bad stuff rolled along as it always does.... Then it wasn't so fantastic. A lot of folks describe various stages of child-rearing this way. Maybe you're one of those. But for every one of those there will be a dozen guys waking up feeling like shit and the worst thing is they won't even know why because its politically incorrect to inform them nowadays. I'm 57 and well aware of what makes me tick. I've had plen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:45 PM
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But if he can’t handle being single without feeling lost or empty, then it’s not just a preference—it’s a dependency. Yeah. That's not good. And also pretty common, I surmise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:31 PM
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If I'm suffering from a mental disorder... I'm loving it! In fact, I'd like an additional helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:28 PM
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Nothing will give you a better natural high then that. No amount of hobbies or gym routines can compete with it. I think this varies dramatically among people. People are wired differently where achievement of "natural highs" is concerned. I have zero desire to breed (although I enjoy practicing!). And I know a lot of folks with children, including my brother. I wouldn't trade places for them for anything. I recall reading some study a while back that 15%-20% of parents actually regret having ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:01 PM
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I'm heterosexual and enjoy sex. So I prefer to be in a "relationship" - however that's defined - as opposed to being single. But I have no interest in marriage, cohabitation or kids. Leaving the issue of (any benefits of) companionship aside, the sex part requires a partner. I also play tennis and padel. Both require partners; it's the nature of the sports. Activities that require partners aren't necessarily about validation. In many cases the partner is simply an indispensable condition without…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:33 PM
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Straw man. Nowhere did I suggest that anyone was being valued solely on the basis of their sexual attractiveness; rather that it was one item of importance. Why is valuing someone solely on the basis of personality any different? You are not valuing that person (in their entirety)... only how interesting they are to you. In your words, "you're devaluing the people around you to what you think of them and what you can get from them." Someone doesn't have to fulfill every single need for a person …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:30 PM
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Woman are not products that expire after a certain age No, but... their sexual attractiveness, specifically, does generally expire after a certain age. As it does for men. Yes, of course, there are men and women who avail themselves of fitness, diet, cosmetic procedures, etc as they age and these folks can remain sexually attractive as they get older. But this is a pretty small minority. Most folks get fat, bald (for men), wrinkly, etc by 50 or so. Can't we just acknowledge that this happens and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:14 PM
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There are advantages to marriage if (1) you're middle class and below, and/or (2) want kids, and/or (3) you're wired for co-dependency (or in otherwise poor health). If you're healthy, wealthy, don't want kids, aren't co-dependent, and lead an interesting life... you're going to fair far better unmarried, on average. The idea of Disneyfied "lifetime romantic love" is largely a fiction perpetuated by the Hollywood Industrial Complex and related Complexes (Jewelry, Wedding, etc). There's a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:48 PM
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Yes, I suspect you'd feel quite differently if you were wealthy; if you have little to lose, the downside is minimal. People and circumstances can change dramatically over the course of a long relationship. To not acknowledge this fact (and protect yourself accordingly) seems unwise to me. Of course the most efficient strategy is... don't marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 06:26 PM
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A woman who is attracted to a man because of money or status. That's just a regular human female. I wonder how many of these women would marry a man where she had to sign a prenup which gave her very little/nothing in a divorce, and she would not have access to his wealth while they were married? I suspect not many. A man's wealth is only an attractive feature (I agree with you here) if she believes she will also have access to it (eventually). Otherwise... it's fools gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:59 PM
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Women wouldn't accept an arrangement that doesn't give them the upper hand. women aren't going to settle for an arrangement that doesn't give them the upper hand in their own way. Perhaps they just accept arrangements where they believe they have the upper hand (or "in their own way" in your parlance) when in reality... they don't. Basically a similar argument you're making about men. Where you stand depends upon where you sit. Except work and relationships are very different. Sure. But there ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:52 PM
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A gold digger is just a glorified prostitute. I wonder what percentage of non-working women (those in a "real relationship" - to use your descriptor) would stay with their partner if he became long-term unemployed and could no longer provide for her (or the family). Are those women that would move on not "glorified prostitutes"? Resources were the foundation of the relationship, after all. I suspect there's a lot of gray area among these groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 05:40 PM
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it's kind of a cowardly thing to do. I view it as the lazy thing to do. And I'm lazy. I always pay - even if the date is bad - because the money is inconsequential so I can't be bothered to even think about it, much less discuss it. Life's too short. But that's just me, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:52 PM
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I don't understand why people feel the need to explain these things with words. Just post photos. Otherwise, it just comes off as LARPing, of which this sub is chock full.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 11:07 PM
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why any woman would want to be submissive, be led and provided for. Its obviously because she benefits from that arrangement. It allows her to have the upperhand, otherwise she wouldn't want it. There's a (syllogistic) logical flaw here. Because she "benefits from the arrangement" does not mean she has the upper hand. People accept all sorts of arrangements that benefit them in which they do not have the upper hand. The overwhelming majority of employees, for example, accept an employment arrang…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 04:34 PM
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Ha! I like the pun (although, I'm a Gen Xer). Yes, I'm an ingenious Svengali adept at casting love spells over impressionable 28-year old women who, at the same time - according to most folks like yourself - have "all of the power" in the dating world. It's an amusing paradox. One wonders what age a woman needs to reach to no longer be infantilized by the same folks who insist these women have complete agency over their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:11 PM
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All of the avenues I mentioned are available to 20somethings. I met my current girlfriend at a dog rescue cafe. She's 28. Anyhow, I think men comprise about 2/3s of online dating profiles. So clearly a pretty large proportion of women aren't meeting guys via the apps (although many are, obviously).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 01:13 AM
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That makes you older than my parents, who are from the Boomer generation themselves. Uh... no. I'm 57, Gen X. I'm not sure how you deduced I was older than a Boomer. I assumed you were making excuses as to why you didn’t buy a house while you were younger, but clearly we are decades apart. No. I was merely alluding to the fact that 18-year old college students who bought houses ten years ago were so rare as to be rounding errors close to zero. Carl Sagan had a famous quote about claims like your…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:33 PM
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"Sorry"...? You just entered the realm of non sequiturs. I have no idea how any of this relates to my prior comment. Are you confusing me with the foot fetish guy again?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:01 PM
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Not now, it’s worth ten times what I paid for it but I’ve been remodeling it slowly over the years. Wow. That's 26% per annum compounded. Yours might be the most successful real estate investment on the planet, in terms of annualized return, of the last 10 years. Again, that's amazing. Ten years ago it was much easier to qualify for a mortgage and pay it alone. Well, it was easier, but it wasn't easy. Unless the house cost like $50,000. The percentage of under-20 college students buying a house …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:43 PM
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So this was a very inexpensive house out in the boondocks. Nevertheless you managed while going to college, etc. That's still a lot of work. Like I said, amazing. Shoe size? No, that's a bad bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:20 PM
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You bought a house while you were in high school? That's amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:10 PM
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I'm 57. I've met girlfriends through dog rescue, playing tennis, padel, and pickleball, introductions from friends, parties, language exchanges, instagram (via acquaintances), etc etc. I met one woman through tinder about 8 years back but dropped the subscription shortly thereafter. If you work a lot and aren't engaged in a lot of social activities... apps are going to be your main outlet, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:15 AM
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I think "hot" for men is a very high threshold - probably less than 5% (maybe considerably less) - these are guys that will turn many women's heads; pretty rare. "Cute" is a much lower threshold... maybe 20% qualify; not gonna turn many heads but at least a typical woman will think "eh, he's pretty cute" if she meets him. Then another 10-15% of "not bad looking" maybe. That's unscientific of course. And I've been wrong before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 08:20 PM
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Why did you delete your replies in our thread? They were only mildly embarrassing and you're anonymous. It's poor reddiquette to serve up amusement and then remove the bowl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 05:45 PM
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I thought your "hot gf" told you to get off of this sub, you agreed and said you weren't going to post here anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/24 07:29 PM
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Sure, but... you're right there with her. For a long enough amount of time for the offer to come up. Without him noticing you. I understand the basic idea - I've lived in NYC, London, Chicago, San Diego, etc - I just can't follow how what you've described actually happens to a woman who is actually on a date with her boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:32 AM
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My girlfriend a few months back had some old guy offer her $10,000 to come by his beach house for a couple days. I was at the bar with her and heard the conversation.<<< You're sitting next to your girlfriend for the (minimum?) 15 minutes it would take for this $10,000 offer to come up just... listening to them chat, doing nothing? This guy has no clue that the guy sitting next to her is her boyfriend? Why would she need to explain she had a boyfriend if you got up together and left? You were ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 04:14 AM
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It's not just the quantity but also (and possibly more importantly) the quality. This goes for both genders, not just men. Why would anyone stay in a relationship in which they were sexually unfulfilled? Unless they were stuck in it, that is (kids, finances, social ties, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 08:33 AM
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Apparently body shaming is a good thing when feminist do it and when men are the target. The problem with high ideals is that they're seldom easy to live by.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 09:49 PM
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If you live your life according the opinions of others you'll become a slave to them. In my estimation most people live boring, banal lives. Consequently, living well in a bespoke manner often generates intense feelings of envy disguised as disapproval.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 07:01 PM
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https://flickr.com/photos/201835825@N05/ At least you've posted a few photos so I say... good on ya. 99.9% of the LARPers here just say, "I don't want to get doxxed!" (As if anyone would bother.)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:48 PM
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Doesn’t prove my dating claims, she’s on my insta with lots of pics. Indeed. I meant to just post a link to your instagram. I have permission, she said the gtfo this sub, and she said you want to talk about something online talk about me. I'm happy to talk about if you like but I don't know much about you. You're anonymous. I find this sub to be one of the more amusing subs I visit. I quite enjoy all of the bizarro world takes. Also, she’s 19 years younger than me. That's an odd non sequitor. Ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 06:39 PM
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Just post it here. No need for these secrecy measures. You're not in witness protection or a pursued enemy of the state, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:54 PM
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I'm 57. I could marry a hot younger woman tomorrow. Although perhaps I'm a pop-up ad. Or an anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 08:18 PM
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Indeed. Although if I had to eat the same meal every day for the rest of my life - even if it was the best meal I'd ever had - I would not be a happy camper. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 03:15 AM
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I have seen this play out. For sure. But... it is not ubiquitous. On the other hand, I've also seen doofuses boning Chads' wives because... plenty of women just get tired of having sex with the same dude, Chadly or not. And if a doofus is available, then a doofus it shall be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:05 AM
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Out of curiosity... are you only happy with the best of everything all of the time? Because the logical conclusion of these settling discussions is that if you're not getting the very best of the best 100% of the time, you're just settling all of the time. And settling is bad. The hottest, most compatible girl you've ever dated? You settled! There's someone hotter out there. The best steak you've ever eaten? There's one better out there - you settled! That tournament you won? There's someone out…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:00 AM
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Us alpha males Any man who must say "I am the King" is no true king.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/24 01:19 AM
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I think this is pretty normal. Having a child is not unlike having a drug addiction - it's a dopamine fix. You love this child for no other reason than shared biological attachment. Outside of family, after all, no one else is going to care about this child in the same manner as you. (Just as you don't care about other peoples' kids in the same way you care about your own.) I imagine it's an evolutionary adaptation. When parents of murderers are interviewed by Keith Morrison on Dateline they all…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 08:22 PM
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I had a prenup that worked exactly as intended. I couldn't have been more pleased with it. Although I had a very amicable divorce and no kids were involved. So there's that. Would I get married again? 99% likelihood I would not. On the 1% odds I did get remarried would I trust in a prenup drafted by a reputable attorney? Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 01:56 AM
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Well yeah, getting used and abused by one man is better than getting used and abused by dozens of men. A lot of red pill men on this sub would argue you're describing the dating experience of many US women in their twenties (who later look to settle down). I'm just reporting...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 07:04 PM
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It’s not mutual at all. But you just said men "have no idea how clever those teens and women are." The only way to interpret that statement is that they are manipulating these men. And in many cases they probably are. (Which is fine by me.) The women still have no power But they do have power: sexual capital. That's the asset they're employing to manipulate these men. Not unlike what many women do in the US. I'd be curious to know if "green card"-related relationships have a higher incidence of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 06:35 PM
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Exactly. As you point out, these women are clever. They are taking advantage of these men's desperation, and vice versa. It's mutual exploitation among consenting adults. Not my cup of tea, mind you, but I don't really see an issue here. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 05:14 PM
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No one - men or women - should be complaining. It accomplishes nothing. Adapt or fail. Screaming into the void is a waste of time. But it does make for amusing reading. So there's that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 06:59 PM
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Fair point - my mistake. I acknowledge the qualification! (Which most folks here fail to use - ha!)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 08:04 PM
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I'd be careful using the word "only." While generally true, there's probably a few thousand posts (by women, no less) over on r/AgeGap that would argue differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:20 PM
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a women in her 40s can never compete with a woman in her 20s. The guy is going to choose the 20s woman every time. I'd be careful using the words "never" and "every". In the US, for example, most women in their 20s are overweight. There are plenty of women in their 30s and 40s (in absolute numbers, not in percentages) that are (much) hotter than the overwhelming majority of their (much) younger peers as a result of diet, gym, and cosmetic surgery. I'm 57M and I've dated women between the ages of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:10 PM
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It isn't growing in the US. And it's practically nonexistent elsewhere. Enjoy your isolation. Super. I could not care less about circumcision. But I find the strident folks on either side of the issue amusing. One involves consent, the other does not. And yet I can't find a single definition of "mutilation" to which circumcision would apply, consent or not. From Wikipedia: "Mutilation is severe damage to the body that has a subsequent harmful effect on an individual's quality of life." I wouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/24 07:19 AM
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We ain't dying up on this hill. The rest of the world has abandoned it. This study from 2014 suggests there was a 6 percentage point decline in circumcisions in the US between 1960 and 2010 (83% to 77%... over 50 years): https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2814%2900036-6/fulltext I happen not to care but... at this rate we'll both be dead before there's any meaningful decline in circumcisions in the US. Genital mutilation is genital mutilation, no matter how much you try to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/24 06:35 PM
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What he's saying - in a rather incoherent manner - is: Many an average man will see a very attractive woman who gets a lot of attention from men, and manufacture a reason in his head ("she's a hoe") to reject her because he knows she'll have nothing to do with him. In his mind, she can't reject him because he's rejecting her first. It's childish and, let's be honest, not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 09:18 PM
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Plenty of "below top tier men" (to use the parlance of this sub) can find plenty of casual sex. But few of these women will be particularly attractive, nor will the sex be particularly good (don't forget the condom, after all). Sex is plentiful; great sex is precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:51 PM
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Yes, it's surgery. The rate of issues with this surgery on babies/infants is some fraction of one percent. And tens of thousands of uncircumsized adult men elect to have this surgery every year. And the incidence of issues with these surgeries is some fraction of one percent. The main reason I don't have an issue with it is... it would be impossible for me to even remember it. It's not as if this is some equivalence to women's clitorises being removed (in certain countries) as young girls, which…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 08:39 PM
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Boys die from all sorts of things that are "unnecesary," including riding their bikes. I suspect the accidental dropping of babies/infants kills more boys than circumcision. The number is de minimis. I have zero issues with the fact I was circumsized - sorry, "surgically traumatized" - as a baby. Edit: spelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/24 03:05 PM
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If she's hot, reasonable and friendly, I'd be happy to date her. But I'm not getting married. And the percentage of really hot women (and men) that have adult-age kids is quite low; most of these folks are in their mid-40s (at least) by this point. There are exceptions, of course... by not many by percentage.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 07:49 PM
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I quote myself: It can work... but it's a low-probability bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 09:05 PM
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No surprise here. Most multi-decade married folks dread the thought of starting over in the dating/relationship game. They'd rather stick with the devil they know unless things are really bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:38 AM
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No surprise here. Educated folks tend to have better impulse control than less-educated folks, are more concerned with social appearances, and have greater financial issues at stake. They're more likely to just suck it up and stick it out despite a bad marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:25 AM
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Doesn't surprise me. Although this suggests nothing about this cohort's future divorce rate (at older ages). After all, this article mentions a rise in the incidence of "gray divorces." It could well be that this (currently) younger cohort's divorce rate will be just as high... eventually... they're just deferring their divorces to older age by getting married later.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:14 AM
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Comical. A statistic on the number of marriages ending in divorce during the first year of marriage. Is this from The Onion?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 03:00 AM
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Most of the responses here are worthless. 88% of posters here are under 40 and, by definition, haven't really been married that long. I'd like to hear from folks that have been married more than 20 years and have children together. People in their 50s. That's a different world. We know around half of marriages end in divorce. I'd say half of the rest stay together for reasons other than love (finances, social issues, etc). Another 15% stay together because of inertia but they're not unhappy. Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 02:04 AM
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Are you suggesting that frequency of sex is uncorrelated with sexual attraction? Are you saying that sex drive - that is, the desire to have sex - is uncorrelated with sexual attraction? Is there any study, anywhere, that suggests sexual frequency, attraction, etc increases between couples over time on any regular basis? Google tells me this doesn't exist but perhaps you're more knowledgeable on the topic. Again, have you been in a relationship of 10+ years? Have you had many discussions on this…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 10:11 PM
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There is a thing called Google. It has many of the answers you're looking for. For example: https://bedbible.com/sex-frequency-statistics/ Take a look at the fifth chart down. Married couples: Frequency of sex starts out at 10.9x per month and declines significantly with time. Similarly, chart at the bottom of this article: https://www.thecarlatreport.com/articles/3010-treating-sexual-dysfunction-in-women Two additional things to consider. One, these are self-report studies so the numbers are li…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:38 PM
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I think they mostly don't realize it until after they've had enough experiences to reach a conclusion. Look, a pretty decent proportion of men get married even though they know they're going to cheat on their wives. This cuts both ways. Plenty of women and men go into marriages knowing or suspecting that the sexual attraction isn't going to last.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:13 PM
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There's a boatload of research out there that's unambiguous: sexual attraction between partners diminishes, often significantly, with time. Yes, sometimes there's still some attraction that remains but it tends to diminish dramatically. Have you been in a relationship of 10+ years?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 09:10 PM
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Who are these guys swiping on 50% of women's profiles? I was on Tinder about 5-6 years ago for six months. I swiped on a fraction of 1% of women's profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:40 PM
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It's unusual for a woman to remain sexually attracted to a guy she's been with for decades. It doesn't matter how attractive he is. The same applies to men vis-a-vis women. It is not normal for humans to stay sexually attracted to one another. (It's common in the animal kingdom as well.) So, if you're a woman and you know that eventually you're probably not going to be sexually attracted to your partner (regardless of how he looks now)... why wouldn't you prioritize money and security, as the be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:23 PM
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I'd have to see photos of these women. Otherwise, my working assumption is they're not very attractive. Hot women just aren't that easy 95%+ of the time, even if the guy is pretty nice looking. (There are exceptions, of course.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:41 AM
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Agreed. I'll have sex with a condom once or twice to see if there's compatibility. But after that she's gotta get tested because long-term condom use is a deal breaker for me. I got a vasectomy many years back, so no pregnancy risks from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:47 PM
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To quote a friend of mine, Having sex with a condom is like getting a foot massage with your slippers on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 06:16 PM
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The biggest problem is condoms. That's like... anti-sex. I don't see the point. Secondly... I seriously doubt I've met more than 100-200 women in my entire life that I had any desire to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 05:42 PM
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I highly doubt any of the men on this sub will ever date young women again once they pass 30 I'm 56. Over the last decade I've dated women between their mid-20s and mid-40s. My current girlfriend is 28. The women I've dated that were in their 30s and 40s looked better than 90%+ of women in their 20s. Of course that's a soft comparison (no pun intended) as, statistically, most "young women" (and men, to be fair) are overweight in this day and age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 09:34 PM
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What's interesting is the guys who get laid easily and frequently (because of looks and money) don't find any meaning or happiness in sex and chasing women anymore because eventually they realise how empty it all is. "Meaning" is not a prerequisite for "enjoyable" or "fun." Life is meaningless, in my view, but it sure is fun. Substitute "life" with "sex" and... there you have it. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults. Problems arise when people pedestalize it and try to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 05:43 PM
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The issue is the definition of "common." The median adult in the US has something like 7 or 8 partners in their entire life. So, clearly half of folks in the US are not having casual sex. I believe less than 10% have 25 or more lifetime partners, which doesn't seem like a lot. So, again, it just depends on how you define "common." I don't really have an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 05:37 PM
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Porn is reflective of some people's real sex lives... but very few on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 04:00 PM
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I'm not anonymous. I give my unvarnished opinion, civilly of course. I always viewed the desire for anonymity on reddit to be rooted in fear. And/or the desire to be uncivil without consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:33 PM
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I guess you'd need to define "modern relationship". I don't know why anyone would enter any consensual arrangement of any kind if they weren't getting something of value from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 06:26 PM
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Marriages, specifically, are rarely worth it in my view (and statistics tend to bear this out). "Relationships," however, in their various forms and durations can be worth it depending on what you're looking for. But I agree with you that most men are not sexually attracted to their aging partners, although they may derive other non-sexual benefits from the relationship. It's pretty unusual to find women or men over about 45 that are sexually attractive, although they're out there (mainly in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/24 12:44 PM
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99.9%+ of all species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. Seems highly unlikely humans will be an exception. But, hey, chase the long odds if you like; to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 05:31 AM
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I don't have an interest in others having children either. I could not care less. Children are not necessary for a well-functioning society, by my definition anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:33 AM
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I have zero interest in children I'm not interested in funding someone else's "pursuit of passions" - she can handle that on her own. On "average," yes. Of course, on average... people are overweight, unhealthy and live pretty boring lives. Personally, "average" doesn't really interest me. I think I'll keep gambling on relationships as opposed to marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/24 08:23 PM
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It doesn't apply in all, or perhaps even most, instances. But... it's a real phenomenon that persists today. Just not with everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 08:04 AM
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Well, you'd have to read the entry first, which will take about 5-10 minutes. As opposed to the 30 seconds it took you to reply. You can explain its irrelevance to Richard Dawkins, the foremost evolutionary biologist of the last 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:10 AM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexy_son_hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:02 AM
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In all likelihood you'd still love him. Jeffrey Dahmer's parents loved him up until he got bludgeoned to death in that prison gym. Parents' attitudes toward their kids are often devoid of logic; parenthood is an emotional addiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:01 AM
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Sexy Son Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:57 AM
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Sexy Son Hypothesis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 05:55 AM
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He whispers in the darkness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:28 PM
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Yeah, I'd say that's mostly true. I think the Latin American culture is generally friendlier and sex positive (despite the prevalence of Catholicism).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 08:11 PM
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I live in Latin America. I have no idea what this is all about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 07:33 AM
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If you're not immune to petty criticisms, prepare to be a slave to them. Who cares what these folks think...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:22 AM
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FYI, accounts don't expire. You can take a break and just come right back to your original account. Even years later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:18 AM
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I am now understanding why your last account got suspended, seeing as this new account is a week old. And already up to hundreds of posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 09:13 PM
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You definitely have strong biased against monogamy or at least life long monogamy buddy Correct. And statistically speaking, clearly most folks aren't very good at it. Wow that's obviously sarcasm. At least I provided evidence of animals changing environment to suit their needs and this is all you can do Yes. When you feel you've proven me wrong on this issue and have the evidence, please feel free to post it. I'll be happy to admit I was wrong. No hurry, of course. So any form of complain again…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:06 PM
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Monogamous people are now to expect their partner dating or having sex with other people. I think that's an overstatement. I'd say many monogamous folks don't plan on having the same partner forever. Further, many folks just don't place a high value on monogamy; they don't pedestalize sex. I'd argue a lot of modern dating problems begin with the notion that sex is some sort of purity indicator, as opposed to just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults. Actually humans can change the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 08:33 PM
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The folks that are ok with "sharing" (let's just call it non-monogamy) don't care what other folks think about it. And no amount of suggesting what they "should" do or shaming them is going to change it. You are on your own in the dating/relationship world. No individual or group is going to make it easier for you because of something you or others believe they "should" do. The world doesn't care if you think the price of petrol is too high; the price is the price.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:17 PM
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I'm not anonymous. I say exactly what I think here. I think most folks will accept a very wide variety of views if they're stated in a civil manner. I think anonymity here on reddit is mostly used to be uncivil and make pretzel logic arguments without repercussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:44 PM
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You: I’m not like a nerdy guy I’m very muscular finance bro type Also you: Yea I’m skinny fat so may maybe she was helping me Might want to just pick one and stick to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:35 AM
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My current girlfriend buys me chocolate sometimes because I'm a sugaraholic. Most of the girlfriends I've had in the past rarely - although occasionally - got me anything other than on birthdays, christmas, etc. Not that I wanted them to, frankly. I really don't want gifts from anyone. I'd rather them spend that money on themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 02:49 PM
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I equate childlessness with (a certain amount of) happiness in my own life. What other people choose to do where breeding is concerned is irrelevant to me. Breed an army or live alone in a shack in the woods. I give zero fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:34 PM
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Yes and you preceeded that sentiment with, "children are seen as a burden and not a blessing." I agree that both folks with and without children can be happy with their decision. And that neither holds a monopoly on selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 07:17 PM
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I always viewed having children as fairly selfish. No parents are having kids for the good of society. It's because THEY want them. If you ask someone why they want to have kids, the answer inevitably begins with, "Well, I want...", not "Well, society needs my spawn." I find it amusing that you equate happiness with being childfree; I happen to agree, but you rarely see pro-family folks admit it so readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 06:55 PM
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Chasing after things (re: desperation) doesn't work too well. I've found that a touch of charm and letting things come to you is more effective. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:19 PM
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I'm 56. But there's a very high chance your opinion on who is and isn't attractive isn't the same as a 30 year old guy for example. You're right. I suspect my opinion on who is and isn't attractive is considerably more discerning than a typical 30-year old guy. I generally find guys who are middle aged or older, to find literally any 25-30 year old woman who is in shape to be attractive. I'd be lucky to find 3% of this group attractive. My girlfriend is toward the bottom of these pictures: https…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 05:04 PM
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Yes, mathematically, most people are average or below-average in looks and have few resources. There's little to leverage for either party. Once we start talking about wealthy and very attractive folks, the numbers decline dramatically. Most folks fly economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:31 PM
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Many marriages are as you describe. And many marriages, particularly involving wealthy men, are predicated - expressly or implicitly - on financial considerations. Both can be true at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:24 PM
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The phenomenon of less-than-attractive men with trophy wives/girlfriends is a timeless cliché. It's that common. Anyhow, believe what you choose. The universe is indifferent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 10:21 PM
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I worked in private equity and investment banking for over 20 years (retired now). Between traversing the globe for deals - endless dinners, events, board meetings, conferences, boondoggles, etc - I saw this kind of thing everywhere. It's ubiquitous. I guess we live on different planets. No need to apologize.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:24 AM
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And the Bay Area and Phoenix/Scottsdale and Las Vegas and Chicago and Atlanta and Houston and DC and Philly and... basically every major metro in the US. Which collectively comprise a large percentage of the total population of the country. (Not to mention we see the same phenomenon in most major metros all over the world.) This goes on pretty much everywhere anyone has money. And within the context of many relationships and marriages that that look and quack like sugar daddy relationships excep…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 04:58 AM
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arrangements where men pay the women You mean like marriage? I lived in Southern California for 15 years and saw plenty of otherwise average-looking (often older) rich dudes both dating and married to very hot (often younger) women way out of their league looks-wise. Was there a stated contractual quid pro quo in these instances? Likely rarely. Was there an unspoken "understanding" regarding financial support? Likely often. Even among attractive people, there's not much romance without finance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:39 AM
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Understood. Godspeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:30 AM
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I didn't say it was easy. Few things of value are easily obtained, after all. But it is the preferred route, in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:28 AM
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Or just have a lot of other options. If you're in more demand than she is, you'll always be calling the shots... or just moving on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 04:21 PM
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I believe sex can be a service. Or it can be some form of romantic attachment. Or it can be just an activity two (or more) consenting adults enjoy doing with each other. Or anything among or in between. "Pedestalizing" it - which is what most folks do - is assuming it should only be engaged in within the context of some societally-approved setting (eg, heterosexual relationship, marriage, etc) lest it be considered "impure."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 08:21 PM
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I didn't realize that men and women weren't connecting. I have no issues with the current status quo. I didn't realize there was a problem outside of reddit, which reflects some small minority of views.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:45 PM
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It most definitely is pedestalization. What "men say themselves" on their forums is further proof of it. Both men and women do this - it's the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:51 PM
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A question about prior marriage(s) or kids would be a normal first date question. A discussion of sexual history would be quite unusual. In fact, in my experience (of many, many first dates, just for context) it's never come up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 04:23 PM
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When promiscuity is normalized, it can cheapen the idea of relationships and make it harder for people to form deep, meaningful connections. Why must only "romantic relationships" be ones in which "deep, meaningful connections" are made? I don't see why sex is necessary for forging deep, meaningful connections. And this ties into the whole notion of romance and "forever love." We’ve all been conditioned to aspire to finding that one person who’s our soulmate, the one who we’re going to spend our…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 03:58 AM
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Indeed. He paid $50 for a blowjob from a street hooker on skid row. And why did Hugh feel the desire to solicit sex from this prostitute while Liz Hurley, one of the world's highest-paid models, was back in London? Simple: (1) she wasn't Liz Hurley; and (2) he knew the sum total of their interaction would not exceed 30 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 09:30 PM
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Same as with men who suffer from fetishes or who are mentally unwell and possess a desire to dominate and humiliate women. This is textbook pedestalization of sex. Sex is just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults regardless of whether money is involved. Arguably, a decent percentage of marriages could be confused for prostitute arrangements given the importance of resources (and sacrifices accepted because of them) but most folks don't like to think about such things. Anyhow, I th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 07:51 PM
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But I would say the majority of adult men (27 and older) would choose who they believe will be an amazing partner over single life. I fixed that for you. The problem, of course, is - if divorce and marital satisfaction stats are close to being accurate - that "amazing partner" is rarely so amazing measured over a lifetime. Now, if you mean amazing for a few years, as opposed to marriage, then I'm in agreement. But anyone familiar with the realities of marriage, either directly or vicariously, ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:31 AM
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I see some oddball takes on this sub, but OP's take here is truly baffling. All one has to do is go out on a Saturday night to a club, pub, restaurant, social event, etc and see... guys everywhere socializing with other guys. Most of these groups of folks are comprised of "friends".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 03:34 AM
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My main point is that the percentage of men who can regularly meet a complete stranger who is a woman - and this woman is in the top 5% of attractiveness - and have sex with her that night... is so small as to not even warrant consideration. In terms of complaining about how skewed it is for "top men" in online dating... I don't see the point. To whatever extent it's true... that's life. (I don't know much about online dating, but nor do I really care about it.) If something's not working for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:31 PM
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Handsome fit men can walk up to a not overly attractive woman that’s checking him out and have her that night. I fixed that for you. The percentage of men that can regularly walk up to very attractive women (by my definition, at least) and have sex with them that night is so small they are not worth considering. (These women have lots of options and they know it - merely being very handsome/fit is rarely sufficient for sex.) The percentage of men that can do the same with modestly attractive wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:01 PM
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I think this is largely a US/Western Europe phenomenon. Not entirely, but largely. I've lived in Latin America for a decade and dating is not at all difficult. I was in a 10-year relationship prior to that so my serial US dating experiences are now over twenty years old. So, my experience is a jump from early-00s in the US ("normal" mode) to mid-20s in Latin America ("easy" mode), while I get the impression that most guys in the US have gone from "normal" to "difficult" over the same period. But…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:42 PM
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Bummer. Such is life. what can we as a society do to rectify it? Exactly zippo. Adapt... or don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 05:15 PM
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So women are pretty much gambling when expecting a man to not cheat on her when she's old Sure, it's a bit of a gamble. But plenty of men who might otherwise desire to cheat, forgo actually doing so for at least two good reasons: (1) They can't, for all intents and purposes. They don't have the time, the opportunity, and/or they're not attractive or wealthy enough to attract someone else. It's just too difficult. That's a decent chunk of married men right there. (2) They're afraid of the ramific…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 02:21 AM
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I think most men don't have an issue dating outside of their social class. The reason they tend to date/marry within their social class is simply... those are the women they, by far, come into contact with most often; your social group tends to be comprised mostly of folks within your social class. I've done both. I've never really cared about a woman's background. At all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:31 AM
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Guys that don't like the apps should stay off the apps. Over half of all relationships are still being started offline. That's a huge number. There are always going to be guys that can't figure out how to meet women. There's nothing to be done - they need to figure it out on their own. And many won't. But that's life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 12:18 AM
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You are a truly terrible - albeit amusing - liar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:45 PM
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You're trying way too hard. 6'3 9/10 almost at 10/10 6'3 9/10 6'3 9/10 10/10 with muscles This is just one day. Why not just put it in your flair if it's so important to you for people to believe this about you. Or provide a link to photos in your reddit profile. But just repeating it over and over and over is unlikely to lead to the result you desire. After all... Any man who must say he's the King is no true King.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:13 PM
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Women don't lie to me about their sexual past because I don't ask or care about it, so it never comes up. Man, that was simple. I'm not sure how one allows a woman to "do them dirty." If a relationship isn't working out... just move on. It's a great big world out there. Edit: Wow, that was fast. OP's account suspended in less than 48 hours from opening.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 09:55 PM
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I don't think they're crying in their sleep but I do think it bothers them on some level that so many people think they're just brainiac losers. (I have no opinion - they've succeeded wildly as professionals, that's undeniable.) Look at Zuckerberg, (very publicly) taking up MMA in middle age. He knows his image is that of an unathletic nerd so - despite his status and power - he goes full-on try-hard to say, "Look at me, I'm actually a tough guy." He can earn trillions but he'll never be anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:50 AM
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I'm sure if he wanted a harem of women having his kids (at the same time) he could have this. I'm also sure it would cost many millions per woman. But, hey, he's got the money. For whatever reason, he's decided that he wants the perception of having quasi-normal serial relationships, which is ok. Different strokes and all. I feel sorry for all of his current and future kids. They're going to grow up in a world of material privilege that they'll never fully appreciate - that will warp them - and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:02 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't sharing him romantically. It appears that he's been a serial monogamist, having 12 kids with four different women, but no overlap in the relationships. Now, of course, they're all sharing his finances (nice), but he's only in a romantic relationship with his most recent partner. Would they have been willing to share him romantically? Maybe... but so far as I can tell they haven't been. Would they have been willing if he was much better looking? Much bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:03 AM
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This is the female equivalent of the guys who complain about other guys' simping for women ("Guys, y'all need to stop simping!"). Guess what... there's no dating union for men or women. People are going to do what they want regardless of what you want them to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:56 PM
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I have no issues whatsoever having been circumsized - erm, sorry - "genitally mutilated." I would likely choose mutilation again given the choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:37 PM
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I'm 56 and single. But I'm probably in the oldest 1% on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:06 AM
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People are, to some extent, emotional (and to varying degrees). I think you'll agree with this. Emotions are, quite often, not logical. I think you'll agree with this. The foundations of relationships between people are often based on emotions as opposed to logic (generally it's a mix of both). I think you'll agree with this. Ergo... people and relationships are not math problems you can solve with logic. (Although there may be some aspects to which logic can be applied.) If relationships were m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:36 PM
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Guy wants to get married. I'm just reporting. Besides... Chad gets cheated on too. It's hard to get around the fact that ardor fades... for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:32 PM
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Fat just happens to be the majority of the middle age dating pool. Very true. You just have to date younger for the most part. Having said that, I've run into some very hot 40-somethings who are gym rats, health nuts, and pro-cosmetic surgery. I've seen some amazing results. But, admittedly, they're exceptions. this whole “Value” thing is just a PPD talking point which is pretty irrelevant among people who touch grass. Ok... but I only brought it up because you brought it up first: I know my own…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:27 AM
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A lot of that is irrelevant outside of this echo chamber of virgins. Hmm. I've found that quite a lot of women - and particularly women with options - do indeed deem a lot of those issues to be important. And I haven't been a virgin for about 40 years. I get at least a couple dozen dating app matches a week and always keep 4 to 5 women in the sex rotation. Ok, but... What am I doing wrong if 90% of my dating pool is fat and I’m not? I won’t settle down with a woman who is bigger than I am. So, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:08 AM
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I know my own value as an above average late 40’s male. Perhaps. Although there's a lot of illusory superiority out there in the world of self appraisals. Two issues. One, if you know your own value then you must be dating the women you want to date. Because that's reflective of your own value. The market dictates your dating value. Two, what is the provenance, in your view, of your "value"? You're in the late-40s, so... are you particularly handsome, fit and have a full head of hair? Are you we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:59 AM
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I feel sorry for the guys, why are they sending her 100s of dollars? Because they value the fantasy. The same reason men spend money at strip clubs. I've dated a few girls that made money this way (and participated in their content). It's just too easy to do unless you're making a few hundred grand in some white collar job, which is rare. And if you're in a developing country, the incentive is even larger because the spread between this kind of job and just about any other is just enormous. Why …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:24 PM
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All true. And yet some folks find the time and others don't. Most people, even without kids and these other responsibilities, just aren't very active.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:11 PM
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Actually, average hours worked by employed people in the US has declined from a bit over 1,900 per year in 1970 to about 1,750 per year. I think it's more the case that more folks spend their free time gaming, watching TV, screwing around on their phones/internet, etc than being active. And, of course, they consume a LOT more food.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:11 PM
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Unfortunately men have also objectively become more obese on average since boomers as well. The fittest are fitter than ever; the rest are fatter than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:19 AM
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Most people are human sloths; lazy as shit. But in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 07:15 AM
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its now objectively harder for white men to enter the industry. I can see that. The point is that women being disadvantaged by some "boys club" consisting of white men is an anachronism. Do you think it's as easy for a childfree woman - that is, one who puts her career first - to succeed in IB as it is for a man? Hold all other variables constant. I don't think it's anywhere near as close. Because the senior execs they have to deal with are still mostly men... who prefer to deal with other men. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:40 PM
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Yes, I presume things have changed. But I don't see a problem with the current stats. Half of the world's population is women, so 53% of entry level in banking being women does not seem problematic. And some percentage of non-women are trans, minorities, etc. It looks like IB is starting to resemble the real world. Despite that, I know plenty of young white dudes in IB.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:28 PM
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I spent 20 years in PE and investment banking. I saw relatively few women in entry level positions and precious few women in senior positions. Recent stats for investment banking are here: https://www.investmentbankingcouncil.org/blog/breaking-stereotypes-womens-rise-in-investment-banking#:\~:text=Women%20held%2033%20percent%20of%20entry-level%20investing%20roles.,of%20managing-director-level%20investing%20roles%20are%20held%20by%20women. So, things are improving but this is absurd: Its hard to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 08:09 PM
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Mostly, but not entirely. Even women who don't have kids, etc and pursue a traditional work career will run into glass ceiling/boys club-related issues in certain environments. For example, it's hard to be a female senior investment banker when 90% of your potential clients are men. But, extreme examples aside, I think most of the gap is due to women's choices and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:46 PM
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Commenter I responded to was trying to avoid that fact in order to gaslight average short men that their height is not the factor that it is by comparing them to a rich and famous person as if that rich, famous person was their equal. It's possible she was just trying make a larger point using an extreme example. But I do understand the frustration with this kind of thing ("just be famous, bro"). Yes, for "average short men," height is a big factor... but it's not the only factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:39 PM
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I think her point is that mastery of status-related skills is, in and of itself, sexually attractive. Skill in entertaining (acting/music), sports, leadership (military or business), building wealth, etc etc, for example. The greater the skill, the greater the attraction. Mastery in things like gaming, coding, math, gardening, etc, on the other hand, might be attractive to a certain subset of women, but not to a wider group as these are not really status-related skills. This is just speculation …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 05:02 PM
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she was worth the cost Almost all guys who get married believe this in the early stages. Obviously, a large fraction end up changing their mind. If you still believe this in 25+ years... then you made a good decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:40 AM
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But I would never see anyone not-blood-related as equal to my son. They will always be less-than. This is why I liken parents' love of their children (or perhaps family, more widely) as akin to drug addiction. It's all-encompassing and leads to all sorts of otherwise irrational views (and often behavior). It's difficult to have rational conversations with parents about their kids; it's all filtered through a fog of love. How many parents say to Keith Morrison (after acknowledging their kid murde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:14 PM
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I thought almost all of those folks were broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:40 PM
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Welp, I haven't been able to find this anywhere. Perhaps you're confusing it with this article from Forbes: Based on a Forbes analysis of more than 700 U.S. billionaires, however, he’s wrong in his assumption. These ultra-rich have an average of 2.3 children, above the recent 1.93 average for average Americans, according to Statista. When you take into account only those billionaires who have kids, the average number of children jumps to 3.1. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenaebarnes/2022/07/10/e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:17 PM
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Out of curiosity... how do you survive with no (apparent) source of income? Do you live with family and they support you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:50 PM
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Body count just means that you're sexually attractive Yes, but to whom? Any average-looking guy with sufficient desire, time on his hands, and low enough standards can pick up many very unattractive women for sex. Anytime I see guys talking about their high body count I immediately envision a bevy of not-so-attractive women. And, oddly, despite modern technology no one is ever able to provide any photos of these lovely women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:39 AM
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Do you have a link to that? That doesn't sound even close to being right, especially when viewed against the (admittedly imperfect) statistica data above. But happy to be wrong. I'm just curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:06 PM
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Are you sure that's right? This chart suggests (dramatically) otherwise. Granted, it's grouping the top-5% together (and it's income, not wealth), so the top-1% might be a bit different. But that would have to be one hell of a hockey stick in the other direction, which doesn't seem likely. But if you've got a source I'd be interested to see it. https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 05:47 AM
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And no, men who are old should date old women instead of being hypergamous. Why? Shouldn't all consenting adults - men and women, of all ages - just date who they want to date? Shouldn't these adults decide what they should be doing? Isn't it ok if "old men" want to be friends with old women, but don't want to date them? I don't want to tell women of any age what they should or shouldn't be doing; they should do whatever they want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:06 AM
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I don't think it was ever cheap. But, yes, it's certainly more expensive today. Substantial capital accumulation is the first requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:43 AM
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Uh oh... I'm 56 and my current girlfriend is 28... she will be very disappointed to discover how unhealthy our relationship is. With a little luck, she'll be understanding regarding this development.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:35 AM
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People - women and men - are superficial when it comes to sex (an important part of a relationship, obviously). Would you have an existential crisis if a woman said, "Thank god you're handsome"? or "Thank god you're fit"? or "Thank god you're not disabled"? or "Thank god you have a big cock"? I see nothing wrong with men and women having exacting physical standards for a romantic relationship. Otherwise, you're just talking about being (platonic) friends, which is also great. And you can throw a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 02:24 AM
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I know. It's unfortunate. But women shouldn't get butthurt when men say, "I prefer fit women." Many women consider this body shaming these days. Which is equally unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 01:40 AM
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I agree 100%, however I think you'll agree that there's a double-standard that applies here. Plenty of women talk about how they have no interest in short guys (and often in very condescending terms) and they'll get plenty of support for those views. Meanwhile, if a guy says he's not interested in fat women, it's viewed as some sort of hate crime. Women not being interested in short guys is a preference; men not being interested in fat women is patriarchal body shaming. Personally, I think both …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:07 PM
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Your flair amuses me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:31 PM
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I wistfully wonder how many times this exact same topic will be brought up here. I further wonder what the provenance of OP's bizarre obsession with this topic is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 03:00 PM
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Women can "have it all" in terms of children and work, but... they need to be in the top 2% of earners and be able to afford a full-time nanny. And also probably have a husband or ex-husband that's also wealthy. You can "have it all" - it's just very expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 01:10 AM
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Gen z has realized the boomer mentality of school->college->marriage-> kids -> retiree I'm a Gen Xer and I realized long ago that this was a road to misery. Ditch the marriage and kids part and live a life of adventure - you only go around once. I know, I know... "You just never grew up!" No. And thank the gods for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:41 PM
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Has she had any of the 6' tall, cream of the crop men in her past, even if just one? I think women eating a Five Guys cheeseburger are enjoying it quite a lot and not dreaming of that Flemings steak they eat once a year. One can enjoy both Five Guys and Flemings; they are not mutually exclusive. One does not have to have the absolute best of everything 100% of the time to lead a happy life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 07:34 PM
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You do it for yourself. No one else. And yet, if you, personally, are happy with the results, it might be surprising how many other folks (yes, including women) are happy with them as well. Not always, of course, but... it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 02:07 AM
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Ok, how about... societal collapse is the norm over human history. Historically, it has taken an average of 250 years for societies to decline and fall. I'm not sure why our current civilization should be any different. Although I have no clue on the timing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 10:24 PM
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we are heading towards the collapse of civilization. 99%+ of all species that have ever existed on Earth are extinct. Why should humans be any different? It's the way of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:36 PM
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Exactly. Many of the forever aloners exhibit the dreaded combination of illusory superiority (they think they're better than they are) and projection (they think a large percentage of folks are in the same boat as them). Basically, "if I'm struggling (and I'm "average"), everyone's struggling." But it's just not the case as "everyone can observe with their own eyes."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:14 PM
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True but... at least the facebook, etc LARPers are using their real identities/photos/videos/etc. There's some link to reality, however vague. Reddit LARPers, on the other hand, just make things up out of whole cloth from whatever emerges from their little brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:20 PM
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From what I can gather, folks are anonymous on reddit (as opposed to Facebook, etc) for one or more of the following reasons: (1) they're afraid their views will be found out by others (family, friends, employers) and shame will ensue, (2) this is a venue where they can be uncivil to people with no repercussions (mainly, shame), and/or (3) they have sad pitiful lives and reddit allows them to LARP with impunity. And then some folks are just lazy, which I can totally understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 04:59 AM
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Diseases and abortions and condoms. I'm not going to imagine what these women look like. But again, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 10:17 PM
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have slept with 500-1000 women. Uff... sex with condoms. I can stomach once or twice before getting tested but... hundreds of different women with condoms sounds like a lot of less-than-mediocre sex. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 09:54 PM
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Many marriages remain intact solely because it's too expensive and complicated to terminate them. They morph into sexless business arrangements. And, frankly, a lot of married folks deteriorate so much physically that they don't have many good sexual options outside the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:29 PM
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Guys who are already desired, and are secure in the knowledge that they are desirable enough to not be at constant risk of being out bid, have the security to settle down and not fear that it will be a waste. But these guys are generally "outbid" - to use your terminology - as well, eventually. Because in the vast majority of cases women get tired of having sex with the same guy - choose whatever greek letter you like - and vice versa. There really isn't much "attraction security" in these marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:48 PM
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that’s really what it’s all about for some people Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 10:30 PM
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I agree. But in many cases there is an implicit understanding that sex is contingent upon supporting the family unit. Again, marriages often end up in the same place from a functional standpoint despite following a different route.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:48 AM
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And the terms of marital intimacy are implicity set often. And in these cases: Terms - whether explicit or implicit - are set; it's transactional. You can put a different label on it but if ultimately you end up in the same place (that is, with terms)...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:09 AM
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I adore these types of threads where we always assume the world exists in a black and white binary. You’re either high T, aggressive and masculine or you’re low T and feminine. You’re either an Alpha fucks or you’re a beta buxxs. You’re either spinning plates or you’re a cuck simp. You’re either rolling in pussy or you’re an incel. Yes. This sub is chock full of False Dilemma fallacies (among many others) that very rarely get called out. Of course if one of the Rules of this sub was "No use of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:02 PM
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This is a distinction without much of a difference. The wife, after all, eventually (later in the relationship) sets the terms for intimacy. I'm not sure why the timing of the setting of such terms by the woman matters much in this comparison. Terms - whether explicit or implicit - are set; it's transactional. Obviously not all relationships are like this. But a whole lot are. The only substantive difference is how they get labeled. "Marriage," for example, is ok in Society's eyes; "Sugar baby" …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 06:46 PM
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I don't really know how well it "works." I know it's worked for me one time, which is not a large sample size. And I'd think it would work for others given what I see around me, but... who knows. Again, I wouldn't recommend it to you if all you're interested in is the female angle but... hey, to each their own. This is me (and she's down toward the bottom): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/xsy6hq9wkcbu9dv3q5vma/h?rlkey=8ly9h37y16hjjinften7212jw&e=1&dl=0
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 04:02 AM
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I don't disagree with this but it begs a question. What is the functional difference - in terms of intimacy - between a sugar baby relationship and a marriage in which the male is the sole provider and the female is principally in the relationship because of his ability to foot the bill for her and children? If we expand the definition of "sugar baby relationship" to include this latter group... that gets to be a pretty decent percentage of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:57 AM
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I'm 5'7 and met my current girlfriend at a dog rescue event. (Which is anecdotal, of course.) I've been involved in dog rescue for about five years now and I can confirm that there are a lot of attractive, nice, single women involved in animal rescue. It's a female-dominated activity. I don't think it's a great strategy to get involved in animal rescue in order to meet women, but if you're already interested in it, it probably can't hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 03:48 AM
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Contemplate your favorite restaurant. Now imagine all the times you ate at other restaurants that weren't your favorite. Did you dream of eating at your favorite restaurant while eating at all of these "backup" restaurants? Did you gag at your first bite? ("Favorite Restaurant I damn thee for being so tasty and not within my reach for every single meal!!") I'm very surprised you even bother to eat at all if it's not at your favorite restaurant. The horror...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 08:57 PM
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Simple. Ask to see photos of him and prior girlfriends. In this day and age he should have hundreds or more.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:27 PM
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Most heterosexual men, if it were realistically possible, would have several very attractive women that they had regular fulfilling sex with. The challenge is that this presents all sorts of problems - and you touched on some of these - not the least of which is the risk of pregnancy and disease. (Sex with condoms is a major drag.) But there's also time management, juggling these different women, possibly finances, etc etc. Most men don't have this option at all because they're just not attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 12:12 AM
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We never see photos of these self-proclaimed Chads. How odd. Why would a true Chad feel the need to be anonymous. Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:45 PM
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I'd say can be considered a good catch rather than is considered a good catch. A lot, aside from fitness, can still go wrong with older guys, as with everyone else, to put them into the "not a good catch" bucket.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:07 PM
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Yeah dude, actually it's more than ok. I'm quite happy with my circumstances. If I wasn't, I'd change them. Different strokes for different folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:29 PM
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Unfortunately, "not be obese" is not sufficient for me. She's gotta be quite fit for a 25 year old, regardless of age. Women can do it but it takes discipline. But, obviously, it's much harder for older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:27 PM
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Occasionally yes but generally no. I mostly know when she's not going to be familiar with some reference and I just explain it first and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:24 PM
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Over the last ten years I've (56M) dated women in their late-20s to early-40s. My current girlfriend is 28. I don't really have an age preference but I've seen precious few women beyond their mid-40s that I'm physically attracted to. But they're out there. I've found the biggest issue to be fitness. I don't really care about a few wrinkles. But it's pretty unusual to find a woman past her mid-40s that's really fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:19 AM
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Lifelong romantic love - as propagated by the Hollywood Industrial Complex and Marriage Industrial Complex - is extraordinarily rare. The hottest humans in the world will get tired of having sex with each other. That's just our wiring. But I think lifelong friendship love does happen more often. I was in a relationship with a woman for almost 10 years. The romantic love evaporated over time but we're still very close friends. We still love each other, we just don't want to have sex with each oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:36 AM
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I’m pretty much what you consider a chad Any man who must say he's the King is no true King.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 09:19 PM
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I surmise that happiness and contentment for both women and men (regardless of one's pill persuasion) are derived from having three things: (1) Health - absent good health, nothing else matters a whole lot (2) Good relationships - a group of family and/or friends that you enjoy socializing with, and a significant other* that you're very attracted to and vice versa, including a fulfilling sex life (3) Control over your time - you don't answer to anyone, or if you do it's minimal; you have a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:48 AM
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How does one become an Empire Queen on a serf's finances? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:11 PM
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Having an exit plan prior to entry is always a good idea. Better safe than sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:13 PM
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And women get tired of fucking the same guy regardless of their greek letter status. And vice versa. An eternal dilemma for all of the greek letters and women alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:31 PM
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Exactly, when you're simping you're basically being submissive to the target of your simping: a girl, celebrity, e-girl, etc, just as the definition implies. It's a distinction without much difference. I'd argue that where men are concerned, being labeled submissive is a derogatory description in most cases, although not always. If they mean close to the same thing, as I suggest, then there won't be 10 examples of where this isn't the case... because they're basically the same. So I'd ask you to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 07:02 PM
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This is a distinction without much of a difference. I think most guys who use this term do mean it to suggest the target of their ire is being submissive even if it's situational. I suspect most folks who complain about simps and simping are really just projecting. These guys don't simp for women (or at least say they don't) but rather simp in all sorts of other parts of their lives; eg, they have bosses/jobs they simp for, friends they simp for, they try to follow many of Society's norms to fit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:19 PM
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Outside of fantasy (that is, the Hollywood Industrial Complex) this sounds miserable. People - even attractive, charming people - get tired of each other. Familiarity breeds contempt; variety is the spice of life. I've never had any interest in "growing old" with another woman in a romantic context. But a lifelong friendship, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 08:33 PM
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Not a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 12:38 AM
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A couple of months back you said you had met your dream girl here on reddit and you were getting married. What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 10:07 PM
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They don’t want to admit they are vulnerable and gullible But they'll whine and cry when they get taken advantage of... without admitting they're vulnerable and gullible. Of course, women engage in the same pretzel logic hypocricies... they're just different ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:43 PM
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I agree with this. I think I'm typical is this regard. I don't really care about effort (unless it's a friend I'm encouraging). Only results matter. Having said that, typically - although not always - the fit women are the ones putting in the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:08 AM
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you are only as attractive as people think you are Yes. The problem with most folks in this respect is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority People generally aren't very objective regarding things like their looks. there is no such thing as an objective equivalent Agreed, but... there are approximate equivalents, or rough guides. If I give a hundred different women pictures of a hundred different men and tell them to place these men into quintiles of attractiveness, there's going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:39 PM
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“When an individual has had sex with their partner over the course of many, many years, it takes creativity and openness to keep things fresh and exciting.” Indeed, and regardless of all of that fresh and exciting effort (which I agree is a good thing)... According to Christopher Ryan of Psychology Today, the constant drain in libido men will experience over the course of a relationship is the product of staying with the same woman, monogamously, for too long. I suspect you're not old enough to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:12 PM
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This is an excuse and it needn't necessarily happen. Science has its own views: https://www.elitedaily.com/dating/science-behind-hard-sleep-person-forever/950751 Content? Yes. Happy? No. Our ancestors ate grain and bland meat and they were content with it. It doesn't mean they were happy. I'd argue that happiness is not sustainable; it's a temporary condition of pleasure or enjoyment (say, after sex or a great meal). Contentment, on the other hand, is a state of satisfaction that exists between …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:55 PM
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most men cannot face the truth that most men aren't really sexually attractive to women. Almost everyone, both male and female, both high-value and low-value (whatever those mean), becomes sexually unattractive (or considerably less attractive) to their partner with the sufficient passage of time. In redpill parlance, Chad gets tired of sexing up Stacy and vice versa... eventually. Exactly like the "lesser" mortals. People in relationships, regardless of initial attraction and status, get tired …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:41 PM
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A few billion people have accounts on facebook, instagram, tiktok, etc etc etc where they post photos and other personal information on a regular basis. 99% of them never run into issues with "mentally unwell people" on the internet. In fact, I bet a lot of folks on this sub have these same public accounts... but only remain anonymous here on reddit or other similar forums. I wonder why that is...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 10:13 PM
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So, if you're honest and not a manipulator... why are you anonymous here? Correct me if I'm wrong but it appears that you're only willing to be honest in an anonymous capacity. Why not own all of the beliefs you profess here if these are the same beliefs you share with the people in your life (because you're honest)? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 09:57 PM
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I guess it could be the man, the woman or both. If a man's brain is wired a certain way I suppose he could be happy having sex for a lifetime with the same woman that had been dumped by many men. And vice versa. Pretty much every study on human sexual habits suggests this is unusual but, again, there are always outliers. All that really matters is that one follows a path that engenders contentment... for their own personal wiring (and is legal!). Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:20 PM
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There are outliers in every distribution. I have not found the thrill of depravity from the same woman to be sustainable. Eventually, it's still the same woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 05:03 PM
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The challenge is that, regardless of where you stand on the totem pole, this "genuine desire" fades with time. It's human nature. Friendship may endure, but ardor fades. Almost always. A dead bedroom has less to do with whether the relationship started with genuine desire than the duration of the relationship, regardless of the parties involved. It's the old saying, "Show me a hot guy/girl, I'll show you someone tired of fucking them." Humans just aren't wired for long-term sexual attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:01 AM
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But I think you are a minority Likely true. Every man I have met with options, including myself, eventually got married In the vast majority of cases marriage is a trade-off regardless of the optionality of the parties involved. IF you (1) really, really value constant companionship, (2) kids, and (3) can find someone that's compatible and feels the same way (that is, understands and is willing to make the trade-offs below), then it might be worth it. IF, however, you have a strong desire for ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:51 AM
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Personally, I would be miserable married (and I have zero interest in kids). I would much rather be single. But I don't have much interest in short-term flings in part because sex with condoms barely qualifies as sex. But I've had probably 20 relationships/situationships over the last 25 years ranging from 10 years to 3 months. It's hard to imagine there are a lot of married men that are more content in their situation than I am in mine but I suppose they're out there. People are wired different…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 12:22 AM
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Oh, I'm quite sure I do: my entertainment. Which is what all of reddit is about. To me. What this sub is about to you is entirely up to you, and about which I have no opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:54 PM
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It was a joke, for christ's sake (and in the scene!). Take a deep breath...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 07:09 PM
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It's because you do the bare minimum. People can find bizarre social commentary anywhere. They come to r/PurplePillDebate for the atmosphere and the fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:42 PM
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Famous scene from Office Space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ChQK8j6so8
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:27 PM
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I checked with the manager. Fifteen pieces of flair is the bare minimum. Although he asked me, "Do you only want to do the bare minimum? Brian, for example, has 37 pieces of flair (and a terrific smile)."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:03 PM
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Basically, you're on your own. Accept it or tilt against windmills and get absolutely nowhere. Women are going to do what they feel is best for them - as they should. Men should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:50 AM
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This is all a part of the pedestalization of sex in which sex is seen as some litmus test of "purity" (whatever that means). I imagine it's a holdover from religious indoctrination, social pressure and neanderthal brain wiring. I've had flings of various lengths with a few married/partnered women over the years. All but one had one foot out the door already (and ultimately divorced). I'm certainly not going to encourage a girlfriend to sleep with other guys but, really, the more important issues…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 06:11 PM
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The problem with these sorts of questions is illusory superiority (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory\_superiority). Humans aren't objective about themselves and over-rate themselves on all sorts of characteristics. You'd basically have to have a "photofeeler" system (that is, many independent people rating others on various characteristics) to get to anything approaching an accurate rating. And that would require folks to not be anonymous. (Most folks here, unlike myself, are allergic to no…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:32 PM
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Head, meet brick wall. Pound. Repeat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:13 AM
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1, 4, and 5 are basically different words for the same thing. Do you really think anyone who reads your comments is seeing something they've never seen before - this is original thinking? That's a rhetorical question. 3 I can understand if it's a few times... but repeating the same messages over and over and over again ad nauseam, this I just don't get. Morality? You hate women but are only willing to state your opinions from a position of anonymity. That's morality? If you want to be moral, at …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 04:02 AM
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For argument's sake, let's assume you're right. What is achieved by bitching and moaning about it? I could understand if this were some political issue and the cumulative power of opinion might change things. Or if it were just the occasional venting about something irritating. But so many guys here - yourself included - just complain on and on and on and on... about things they have zero power to influence or change. It just seems obsessive and a huge waste of time and brain power. You're allow…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:42 AM
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My 20s were quite decent but the run from my mid-30s to (now) mid-50s has been far better than I would've expected (if asked in my 20s). The biggest challenge for men (and women, frankly) is that they mostly go to shit physically starting in their early-30s. Work, family, metabolism slowing, balding, lack of time and motivation, etc... it takes most folks into the shitter. But if you don't let that stuff drag you down... you can have a pretty long arc of "peaking." But you can't sit on your fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 05:21 PM
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This is why I love this sub. The complete insanity. Where are these people in real life...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:49 AM
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On sheer moral principle I refuse. And that's perfectly ok. It's your choice. And the world will reward you with nothing. Maybe we can try making the world more inclusive to other people like myself and just normies like you? Just like how we can help fight poverty, hunger, etc? And not accept starvation as a constant element on society? Yes, in some fantasy world everything is all puppies and sunshine. But this world ain't it. If you want to engage in some sisyphean struggle on "moral principle…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:20 AM
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About 4 billion people on this planet live on less than $10 a day. Life ain't fair. If you can't adapt to your circumstances then you're SOL in this particular respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:06 AM
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Ah, ok. Welp, I don't see how you get into a romantic relationship without dating. 98% of the time - or something like that - one involves the other. There's no free lunch. That's just life in the big city.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:50 AM
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Ok, so you're not interested in a romantic relationship. You want to make new friends. So, join a club or group related to things you like doing. You like chess? Join a chess club. You like a sport? Join a club for that sport. There are clubs or groups for pretty much every interest on Earth at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:32 AM
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Don't date. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:04 AM
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And women considering us worse than bears. Is that "mature" to you? You have to embrace the comedy in this stuff. Men banding together to solve these "problems" as a collective? I don't see that happening. Accept that you're on your own and behave accordingly. Anything else and you're just engaging in self-deception, which isn't helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:58 PM
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This sub, in a nutshell. You want to feel sympathy for some of these guys but then they go off on these all-women-evil tangents and it just turns into bizarre amusement. (And then the all-men-bad ladies show up and... it's a party!)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:51 PM
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My point is now you've met me. Albeit on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 04:00 AM
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All the short men I’ve met in my life had partners that I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. Welp, you've met a single exception. Albeit on the internet. Happy to help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:58 AM
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Hmm... I've dated nothing but very attractive women my entire life. And I'm short.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:52 AM
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Absent just ignoring such silliness, I'm pretty certain I would make fun of anyone who did that to me - man or woman - for sheer amusement. If someone begs to be debased... I'm happy to oblige.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:34 AM
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This has not been my experience although (1) I've almost exclusively dated women 5'4 or (more often) shorter, and (2) I don't generally find women taller than 5'6 or so physically attractive. I've led my life (I'm 56) never feeling particularly dehumanized by women based on my height despite understanding a general preference for taller guys (again, all else being equal, which it almost never is). Any woman that wants to dehumanize me based on my height is free to do so. It's mind over matter - …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:11 AM
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The universal superficiality women display about male height is often so startling The superficiality relates to sex as opposed to friendship. Most women are physically attracted to taller guys, all else equal. (All else is rarely equal, however, which is why plenty of shorter guys end up in relationships - lots of tall guys struggle with dating/relationships for non-height issues, which are many and varied.) Most of these women aren't saying, I don't like short guys; they're saying, I don't wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:44 AM
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It's amazing that, based on your (numerous) posts, your friend group(s) include every single pill-based stereotype and cliche (which, purely coincidentally, support your views), and you know all of the personal details about all of these folks (income, who's sleeping with whom, etc). It's almost beyond belief...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:36 PM
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I just simply don't care. I'm just not wired that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:32 AM
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True. But having little experience means there's a very high likelihood that she's not particularly good at sex. All else equal, I'd rather take my chances with she who has been pumped and dumped. But, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:30 AM
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I play a lot of tennis. I don't want to play with beginners because they're terrible at tennis. I enjoy sex. I don't want to have sex with women who don't know what they're doing. In most cases they have to get that experience I desire from somewhere. Just as I have. I don't pedestalize sex. It's just an activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. Now, I'm not in the market for marriage. But I'd have no issues being in a LTR with a woman with a high body count. Personality issues notwithstandin…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:08 AM
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The only thing I've definitely noticed eroding is my memory for names. Friends, actors, etc... I can't pull up names like I used to. Other than that, I haven't noticed anything deteriorating too much on the cognitive side of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 05:36 AM
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No one “feels” old dude. No one at all? Hmm... I read comments from folks here on reddit pretty regularly complaining about how they feel old. Maybe they're not real people. This article suggests that the average person starts feeling old at 47: https://www.theladders.com/career-advice/the-age-when-most-people-start-to-feel-old . I think that study included humans. But I digress... Anyhow, I suppose it's irrelevant. Other than the fact that I don't work, my day-to-day life isn't materially diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 11:25 PM
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I didn't feel old in my 30s and don't feel old in my 50s. I've got gray hair and some crow's feet now but otherwise... no signs of excessive entropy. But that's anecdotal, obviously. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/k46uv2k7pz35qgsof7pla/AAtl4_pfa2nR7dVuSc5XnAU?rlkey=20zfdbytoxdyqqfp5y0dhvjqe&st=9b7lumu0&dl=0
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 10:27 PM
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Leaving the issue of "waiting" aside... the problem with casual sex is that you have to deal with the risks of pregnancy and disease, and the norm that the best sex comes a bit further into a relationship when both parties are more comfortable with each other. In my view, sex with condoms barely qualifies as sex - it's beneath mediocre. But condoms are going to be involved in 90%+ of casual sex unless the parties are nuts (or drunk, on drugs, etc). (And who's getting tested prior to casual sex?)…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:59 PM
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Good luck with that. Prepare for a life of disappointment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 06:17 AM
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No idea... it never occurred to me to contemplate the issue...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:10 AM
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Ambition is often a code word for "will be wealthy." The real value of wealth isn't the material goods it can afford - although plenty of people desire that stuff - but rather freedom. The freedom to live life on your own terms and have complete control over how you spend your time; that is, answering to no one (well, other than the tax man). So, if amibition engenders wealth which in turn engenders freedom, I can understand how a woman would be attracted to someone with ambition. The problem, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:33 PM
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I think so, yes. If I didn't have a girlfriend it would be pretty easy. Related, a friend of mine recently met his current girlfriend playing tennis. But I think padel is probably the easier route.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:27 PM
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I live in Mexico and Colombia. My points stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:21 AM
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This doesn't exist in this day and age unless you're talking about methed-up street rats... which makes it incredibly dangerous. Because she's certainly not treating you different from her other clients. But if you like to roll the dice... knock yourself out. Again, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:17 AM
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You've been with 15+ prostitutes and haven't paid them? Well, that is truly amazing. I've been with probably half a dozen prostitutes - stunning women - over the last 25 years and each time was fairly lame. Each time, enough time would pass to forget how bad it was and I'd be out drinking with friends, give it another shot and... same result. Then I just stopped altogether. First off... sex with condoms doesn't qualify as sex in my book. Secondly, the quality of the sex was mediocre at best. Com…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:11 AM
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C'mon now. Zero percent were attracted to you. And it doesn't matter what you look like; it's the nature of the job. Simple thought experiment: tell a prostitute you're not going to pay her before you have sex and see how many take you up on the offer. It will be zero. I have no issues at all with prostitution between consenting adults. But the quality of the sex is terrible regardless of what she looks like. Because it's work. But if your threshold for sexual contentment is "any sex with a woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 05:46 AM
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His now wife got to know him through the barista job and even admitted that she left swiped him on Tinder. The black pill folks have a term for this: unicorn. "If she doesn't lust for you within one-tenth of a second of laying her eyes on you or a photo of you, she's not sexually attracted to you and never will be." /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:12 AM
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A sport where you're likely to meet younger single women is... padel. Pickleball is mostly older folks. Tennis is too difficult for most adults - beginners just look foolish. Padel is a great middle ground and is going to be huge in the states in the next several years - clubs and courts are popping up everywhere. I play in Mexico and Colombia where it's growing rapidly. It's huge in Spain, Germany and Italy. I'm principally a tennis player but padel is really fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:07 AM
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Dog rescue. I started rescuing dogs at my home in Mexico during the pandemic. Almost against my will. My housekeeper just kept bringing in dogs off the street and I met up with some organizations in San Diego to get them adopted, and one thing led to another and... now I'm actually building a proper rescue facility. But I digress... I've been to a ton of dog rescue events - parties, weekend adoption events, shelter volunteer days, etc etc. Lots of very nice, single, sometimes even attractive wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 03:57 AM
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all I can do is make sure that her behavior in the past matches her behavior in the present. I find this quite odd. It's never occurred to me to ask about, or really contemplate, a girlfriend's former boyfriends. I've just never really cared. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:59 PM
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I have no idea. I don't know you and I'm not Marvin the Mindreader so I don't know how your brain processes options. But, I suspect... that the thought process you apply when evaluating dating options is likely very similar to the manner in which you go about making a lot of other decisions in life. But if you'd like to believe otherwise, I'm happy to oblige you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:44 PM
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When I shop for couches, I prefer green and brown couches. Does that mean I'm going to look for green and brown women? No, but the thought process you apply when choosing that couch is likely very similar to the manner in which you go about making a lot of other choices in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:52 AM
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Perhaps... but there's an old saying that I find generally applies to the vast majority of people: How you do anything is how you do everything. Most people tend to approach different things in the same manner; it's one's "nature." People who are passive about something important like dating are probably going to be passive about a lot of other things as well, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:08 AM
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What is a UMC? I don't see it in the glossary of terms or acronyms. Nevertheless... I suspect that women answering this question will be divided by the issues of: (1) age - closer to 20, they'll prefer #1 on average; closer to 30 (or older), a higher percentage will prefer #2; (2) desire for marriage - greater desire for marriage will skew towards #1; and (3) desire for kids - actually, this could go either way. #1 will be the better option for some (he's younger but doesn't earn much), but some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:44 PM
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This guy's a magical thinking religious nutjob so I don't know why folks expect him to say anything different. I disagree with what he has to say but I defend his right to say it. I don't think it's dangerous or anything like that; just misguided. Of course, I think everyone who participates in organized religion has a few screws loose, so consider the source.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:12 PM
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Whether you feel like it or not, you have been held to this standard. You may feel like it hasn't affected you, but seriously a ridiculously high percentage of men don't realize when their wife takes a lover until divorce proceeding start. I think marriage itself - in which I have zero interest - is generally the issue here as opposed to the temptation of cheating with fitness models. The big advantage of lovers outside of marriage - male or female - isn't their fitness level, it's that they're …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 10:01 PM
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Well, those "some guys" - like most men - should realize they shouldn't be bothering with it. Personally, I don't feel I've ever been held accountable to this standard. I can't be the only one that feels this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:35 PM
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So don't bother with it. Problem solved. Merely being "fit" (in some absolute sense) is unusual today seeing that 70% of adult males in the US are overweight (and half of that number are obese). I presume this "ideal" physique applies to a low single-digit percentage of males. I don't think one needs to be (nearly) that fit to be active in dating, relationships, etc. If "in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king," then in the land of the unfit, the "merely" fit are at least dukes, I'm t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:44 AM
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C'mon now. I seriously doubt you're even getting to the point where you have the choice of dumping anyone. You're getting dumped well before that. Repeatedly, it appears: it was evident from their demeanour that they found it strange and unattractive that I was low on the social ladder Once these women realise after a short time dating that I don't have a social life to speak of, attraction goes down once they notice you haven't got a social circle, hobbies and interests are not enough to cut it…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:17 PM
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You're confused. A cuckold is a man who (1) doesn't know his partner is cheating on him and would be angered by it, or (2) is aware of it and encourages it because he derives satisfaction from it. I'm in neither category. I'm simply indifferent. You, on the other hand, are obsessed with sex, fidelity, and controlling your SO's sexuality. Arguably, you're a cuckold to Life - it abuses you and you feel helpless to change this. So you come to this sub to whinge and complain about your state of affa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:46 PM
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It should be obvious. You're concerned about a SO going on a girls trip and fucking other dudes. I'm saying, who cares so long as she doesn't get pregnant or get a disease. You pedestalize sex (which is clearly a source of anxiety for you). I don't. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:02 PM
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I've never seen one example of some fat bald loser pulling a hot 22 year old. Outside of the entertainment industry or a prostitution arrangement I think you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:13 AM
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It's this, really. Very few guys age well. The ones that do have no problems attracting younger women, if that's what they desire. The problem today is that even most younger (adult) guys are fat (and, thus, unattractive). So they're aging poorly from an even more challenging starting point (than in the past). Although, hell, the same applies to women. We live in a world of (mostly) unhealthy people just getting more and more unhealthy as they age, and their looks reflect this. But... at the top…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:08 AM
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Two rules: No babies and no diseases. So, use a condom. Otherwise, enjoy yourself. Sex is a fun activity to be enjoyed by consenting adults. Why people put it up on some pedestal of (desired) moral purity, I have no idea. Actually, I do have an idea. It's almost always religious nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:43 PM
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Regular sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 07:07 PM
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I want zero. I'm 56M and got a vasectomy in my early-30s. I've just never had any interest in kids and definitely didn't want the responsibility. Also, I've always viewed having kids as akin to a drug addiction, and a very expensive one both financially and emotionally. All reason is abandoned when it comes to one's kids. How many times have you watched one of those Dateline specials and the murderer is convicted, Keith Morrison is talking to the parents, and they say, "No matter what, we'll alw…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:43 AM
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In my circle we're college-educated women, living in a big city, around 25-30yo who want marriage, kids and the whole white picket fence life. I would argue that you and your friends want what you think this life entails, not what it actually entails (in most cases). And what you think it entails has been shaped by the Hollywood Industrial Complex, society in general (which promotes this lifestyle), and the natural human outlook that "hope springs eternal." Yes, some folks do find this Relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 12:16 AM
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like they’re trapped in this state of perpetual adolescence without any inclination to seek out a partner to build a family with. I feel the opposite of trapped. I would say I've willfully placed myself in this "perpetual adolescence" - as you've put it - as I have no inclination to have a lifelong partner or build a family. I'm quite happy here and have no interest in leaving. The rise of situationships has been a wonderful thing, in my view. Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:44 PM
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Guys that want non-escalating relationships, AKA never moving in together and being perpetually in the dating stage That's me. And I'm upfront about it. I've been married and I have no interest in doing it again despite the fact that my marriage was actually pretty good, our divorce quite amicable, and we're still close friends. I will not live with someone. I will not have children - I had a vasectomy decades ago. The reason is simple: I've just never had any interest in being married, living w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:05 PM
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I agree completely. But... it's not very practical to try to put together and moderate a large group of folks in person in order to have a civil discussion about controversial topics. That's the benefit of forums like those found here on reddit. Then the problem becomes... the anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:53 PM
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You could probably achieve the same end if people were willing to not be anonymous here. The "in-person" part is not as important as simply being non-anonymous. This would encourage people to be more thoughtful and civil in their discussions. As it stands, being anonymous allows folks to be intellectually lazy, engage in uncivil discourse, lie, and LARP like crazy... without having their names attached to such shenanigans. I actually think about my posts and comments here on reddit because I'm n…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 08:23 PM
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I prefer little to no makeup (comparisons provided for perspective): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/vtqvmiwquawl0yfv1qvcb/ALjXA789T8oHEHG7aff1uYc?rlkey=j6mmlko3v6b01rgf47lnjig53&st=c68ts5cx&dl=0 (They are not models) 01 - 03: little to no makeup (maybe a bit of mascara) 04: full-on makeup 05 - 06: little to none 07: makeup 08 - 09: no makeup 10: makeup In all cases I prefer little to none. To each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 05:31 PM
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I don't disagree with a lot of your points although this does come across as some kind of look-at-me revenge post. Nitpicking a bit, I don't understand how your husband is in "VC and pulls in a ton of money" while his bonus was (only) in "5 figures." That is not particularly successful in the world of VC. And while it's good you get to travel with him ("high powered couples"!), I guess your kids are still with the ex, yes? If you're happy that's the only thing that matters. That you feel the nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 04:28 AM
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You're wasting your time with this dude. He's autistic (self-described) and yet, allegedly, very recently met the perfect woman as a result of comments made on this sub (he deleted that post). As of a couple of weeks ago he was planning to marry this woman (again, post deleted). So contemplate all of that in the context of his posts here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 09:25 PM
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I'm not glad for them, they're ripping someone off by exploiting their feelings. That's exactly what any con artist does. Taking advantage of peoples' emotions and feelings is the very basis for a huge chunk of commerce and the marketing that accompanies it. I wouldn't single out women trying to make a buck online (in a legal business) in this regard. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:10 PM
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We're in agreement. That's a complete waste of money. And yet I'm glad for the girls that these guys are out there. It's a living, after all. And consensual on both sides so... to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:44 PM
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I don't really see how wealthy guys avoid subsidizing their girlfriends (well, 95% of the time). If you're 10x+ more wealthy than the woman you're dating, how do you ask them to pay to keep up with your (more expensive) lifestyle? They simply don't have the money. Let's say you want to go to Europe for a few weeks, are you going to say, "I'd love for you to come to Europe with me if you've got an extra $10 grand lying around. Oh, you don't? Ok, see you when I get back." That will not fly. So, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 09:36 PM
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I looked like a mop-topped child in my early-20s - definitely had not "peaked." These are three photos each from my mid-30s and mid-50s (roughly current): https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/k46uv2k7pz35qgsof7pla/AAtl4_pfa2nR7dVuSc5XnAU?rlkey=20zfdbytoxdyqqfp5y0dhvjqe&st=fkjl8j5g&dl=0 I prefer the way I look now to how I've ever looked before. But perhaps that's odd. Also, it's anecdotal. Related, some folks (relative to their 20s) lose a lot of weight, get cosmetic surgery, etc. My girlfriend was a …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:08 PM
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"Platonic bonds" are romantic by definition. It would require a certain degree of homosexuality for men to form platonic relationships with their male friends. Every definition I see on the internet suggests otherwise: "A platonic relationship is a close friendship between two individuals without sexual or romantic involvement." Maybe I'm missing something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:36 PM
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It's mostly nonsense. If you have to explain to or convince someone that you're "alpha" - like certain dudes on this sub - then guess what... Likewise, if you give two dusty fucks what others think of you in this regard then you've completely lost the plot in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:47 AM
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I’m seeing more hostility towards westerners, western men in particular as a result. I've been living in Colombia and Mexico for over 10 years and I haven't noticed any more hostility toward western men over that period. I've just noticed that the media/internet are more active in covering specific subsets of these men like sexpats, pedophiles, drugpats, guys getting scoped, etc - basically, the salacious stuff. The vast majority of Colombians don't care about these guys as they represent a tiny…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:47 PM
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I'm a permanent resident of both Mexico and Colombia.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:13 PM
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Only since you brought it up, and in the context of "all the time" (which I haven't noticed) and the "ZERO proof" (very true regarding pretty much every claim made on this sub because 99% of the folks here are anonymous... including yourself): [click] reddit profile >> [click] _marathon_ (Linktree) >> [click] life speeds up She's (32) down toward the bottom. I'm 56. We're almost three years in. Over the last eight years I've dated women between their late-twenties and early-forties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 04:01 PM
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Your account is two months old. So... you've met a woman (1) in the last month or so, that (2) you haven't actually met in person yet (or met in person very recently), and (3) you've already decided to get married. That's really something.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:18 PM
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he’s invariably kicked to the curb, but not before being stripped of his home, his share of the “joint” assets, and a sizeable chunk of his monthly pay packet/pension. That's why you have a prenuptial agreement. I was in a 10-year relationship, married for seven of those years. (No kids; I got a vasectomy prior to marrying.) We had a prenup which gave my wife basically nothing that she didn't have coming into the marriage. When we divorced, at my request, she was entitled to very little, althoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 10:11 PM
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Welp, no one's gonna be paying you so... sounds like it's a lifetime of games which, fortunately, you prefer.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 02:23 AM
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The percentage of women I find attractive enough to sleep with is in (low?) single digits. Unfortunately. I'd love to be bisexual and have zero looks preferences but it just wasn't meant to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 07:41 PM
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that way of looking at or approaching these things doesn’t really apply like it used to Let me guess... you're going to say something along the lines of, "Now that we have the internet and social media, 'ordinary' people can now see how poorly they're doing relative to the high-falutin', fancy pants Joneses, and they're miserable because of it. Pre-internet/social media, at least they were largely kept in the dark about how well off some folks were and it wasn't in their face." Is that the gist …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:21 PM
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No one is talking about feeling miserable or whatever. Really? Because whenever I see the term "settling" used on this sub it's presented in a fairly negative context (perhaps "unhappy" as opposed to "miserable"). It's generally something like, "Yes, she's only with him because she decided to settle - she doesn't really like him." Or something of that ilk. Have I misunderstood the context in all of the god-knows-how-many times I've seen this word used here?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 09:11 PM
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I find this chain of reasoning utterly bizarre. Do you think most people are miserable because they're not eating at a Michelin star restaurant every night? Because they're not driving a Maserati? Is everyone miserable because they're not getting the absolute best of absolutely everything 100% of the time; that is they're "settling" on everything in their life? Most people who are chomping down on a greasy $10 cheeseburger aren't bemoaning the fact that they're not eating at Flemings - they're p…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 07:58 PM
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Surprisingly accepting that I am a bad person made a lot of my neurotic anxiety just go away. I thank God for putting me on this world as a force of evil. I used to pray to be a force of good. But now I see my purpose is to make things worse for everyone. Classic False Dilemma Fallacy but, hey, knock yourself out. Absent becoming a serial killer, I seriously doubt you're in any position to actually dispense much evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:30 PM
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The way I've always thought about it is that casual sex is great in theory but not so much in reality, mainly because you have to deal with the risks of pregnancy and disease, and the reality that the best sex comes a bit further into a relationship when both parties are completely comfortable with each other. In my view, sex with condoms barely qualifies as sex - it's not even mediocre. But condoms are going to be involved in 90%+ of casual sex unless the parties are nuts. Then you have no idea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:59 PM
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The more you go through, the stronger the bond becomes. I think this applies only up to a point in relationships with females. Eventually, people just get tired of being around each other too much - even people who otherwise love each other. Live with your best friend for a few years and see how desperate you'll be to (eventually) move out. I suspect you're young and lack life experience in this regard. Which is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:57 PM
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Of course it's not black and white. That's exactly my point. This pill business is absurd. Its enduring value is the amusement it engenders.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:45 PM
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I'm hopeful that you don't share every vacation with your sorta best friend. And that this does not come between you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/24 07:43 PM
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I doubt you've ever been in a long-term relationship. People - especially partners - need space. You want to ruin an otherwise good relationship, smother your partner. It happens all the time. Familiarity breeds contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:10 PM
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But wouldn't a majority of the men on this sub complain that the guy is a "simp" if he pays for her to come with him? If you go and don't pay for her, she should leave you; if you go and pay for her to come, you're a simp. It's pretty complicated out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:01 PM
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I would agree. And it doesn't refute my original argument one single iota.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:56 PM
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You can go on about percentages all you want I have been addressing one single statement of yours... this one: $200K is not a lot of money in your 40s My belief - one I think is likely shared by the vast majority of humans - is that if you're operating at the 97th percentile, you're succeeding. The vast majority of US workers (and certainly globally) view $200K as a lot of money. As to the rest of your comment it appears that you've confused me with someone else because I don't know who "these g…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:54 PM
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True but a red herring fallacy. Another fact is that pedophilia is but one single demon that a person might have in his/her closet. I suspect that in a more general sense, women and men, on average, tend to have similar quantities of closet-dwelling demons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:45 PM
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Well... no shit. But I have no idea how this relates to any comments I've made, nor the original comment they address. Brad Pitt could be Mr. X with similar characteristics - he's just a someone that everyone is familiar with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:40 AM
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If being at the 97th percentile of just about anything at that particular thing isn't considered successful then... I suspect your definition of "successful" varies dramatically from the vast majority of people . Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be very happy with $200K pre-tax (and, hell, I'm retired) but... I certainly wouldn't describe it as "unsuccessful," as you are. In my view, once you've started moving past the 90th+ percentile of just about anything... you've succeeded (at least relative …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:33 AM
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Well, yes. Obviously. But I was addressing the specifics of the original comment: Ugly, old, rich, and unattached = evil
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:22 AM
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He's not just as likely based on the judgement I put in ahead of time. Imagine how many women believe they have put in "judgement ahead of time" regarding this issue... and turned out to be wrong. I find it amusing how confident people are regarding things about which (even remote) certainty is clearly impossible to possess. It's unacknowledged magical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:18 AM
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Achieve the standard and being joyless in it is still better than being joyful in the wrong standard. So here we are. The "wrong standard" in your eyes is "evil" and suffering through something you deem to be "non-evil" is the higher standard to reach for. I find that comical but it takes all kinds. I'm not interested in dating someone who "avoids the chance of a fuck up" by just committing to the fuck up lifestyle. No one said you would. This isn't about who you would and wouldn't date. It's ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 02:13 AM
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You missed my point entirely... which is that the guy you deem to be marriage material is just as likely as anyone else (including those you might view as "evil") to be soliciting prostitutes. He might even be your future husband. We simply don't know. Probably better to just acknowledge this fact than pretend to have some prescience that doesn't actually exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:31 AM
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If you turn that guy hot be becomes even more dubious. Fair enough... although if that's the case I have no idea why you included "Ugly" in your original comment. Now you've decided that doesn't matter. But...ok. Why is someone who has no interest in settling down "evil"? Half of marriages end in divorce. They - representing an enormous number - utterly failed at "settling down." Do they get a pass from being labeled "evil" because their intentions were good (but they just couldn't hack it)? I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:25 AM
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So, thought experiment: let's say Brad Pitt-like without the alcoholism, abuse and divorces. Does handsome, old, rich, and unattached = evil? Or must he be ugly to reach evil status in this equation? Enquiring minds...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 01:06 AM
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It's a weighing of the odds, that's all. and probably ladies of the evening are involved somewhere in there. I'm not sure you're weighing the odds very well. The majority of prostitutes' clients are married men. You know, guys who appear to be "settled in one place," "have made a commitment," etc. But, hey, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:59 AM
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$200K is not a lot of money in your 40s $200K/year puts you at the 97th percentile of income for an individual of working age in the United States (94th percentile for a 45 year old in the US). Globally, it puts you at the 99.9th percentile. (Admittedly, half the world lives on less than $10/day.) So, I guess "a lot" is a highly subjective term in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 12:06 AM
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Soyciety also hates and distrusts old bachelors for this same reason. If so, I fully embrace this hate and distrust. By all means, shower me with more of it. It appears to have no negative impact whatsoever on my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:47 PM
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Possibly so but completely not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 11:44 PM
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But it makes way more sense if I assume men naturally to some extent feel a sort of shame in their sexual desires. It even explains why they're so focused on finding women who are "sexually compatible" or "sexually enthusiastic" They're really seeking a woman who makes them not feel ashamed about the thing they find shameful in themselves. And if she's down to clown in all the ways, it's easier to ignore any sense of shame. Perhaps some guys do feel this way but I think it's far more a case of: …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:18 PM
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I’d say the first one as long as he has ambition, if he isn’t ambitions I can’t be attracted to him since mediocrity is a turnoff for me. Clearly already covered. He's not ambitious: average income in a boring job, no social status, introverted Perhaps you glossed over that because he's good looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:59 PM
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No man that makes loads of money is single at human lives to that age without having a few demons in his/her closet Fixed that for you. Riiiight... of course older wealthy single men definitely have more demon-infested closets than other people on average... I mean, c'mon.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:54 PM
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So, Brad Pitt would be evil if he weren't as good looking? Twice divorced, issues with some of his kids, old, rich... but still nice looking. Knocking on evil's door but just a bit too handsome. I'm sorry, but I find this hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:42 PM
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Because he travels a lot and is unmarried means he "lacks attachments" and leads a "fleeting lifestyle"? I tell ya... I've known plenty of married men that never went anywhere that clearly lack attachments and lead fleeting lifestyles (re: they have affairs). I'm not really sure what one has to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:38 PM
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This dude's a muslim enchanted with sharia law and he just created this account today (so who knows how many have been suspended previously). It's probably not too productive to debate him on anything. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 02:21 AM
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How incredibly sad and boring is your life - man or woman - if you have the good fortune to reach old age in relatively decent health and your big concern is... "dying alone." Which I really think means "living many years in older age alone," as everyone (essentially) dies alone. Unless you're living on a farm out in Bumphuck (in which case, sorry) - and forget about romantic attachments, they left the barn years prior - you should have all sorts of friends and acquaintances, hobbies, activities…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 10:50 PM
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I did this. I got a vasectomy pretty young - early-30s. But I froze sperm before I got the vasectomy just in case I changed my mind about kids. About 10 years later, after I was even more certain I didn't want kids, I stopped paying the rent on the sperm and donated it to science. Two of the better decisions I've ever made.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/24 12:04 AM
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I don't know about top X% or anything like that but I've had few issues dating women over the last 20 years. I'm somewhat positive on the dating environment. I just go about my life and let the chips fall where they may. My two big appearance negatives are that I'm 5'7" and 56 years old. I don't self-appraise, but according to photofeeler I (still) have a reasonably handsome face (8.4). And I have blue/green eyes, a full head of hair (albeit mostly gray now), and I'm extremely fit (for a guy of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 11:19 PM
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I agree. I think the desire for novelty trumps most of these other reasons, although they may be present as well. In the extreme, "familiarity breeds contempt." Where sex is concerned it's more like, "familiarity breeds boredom."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:14 PM
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Yeah, frequency of sex doesn't really affect the desire for variety/novelty. In fact, too frequent sex can have the opposite of the desired effect; it can make the sex lose its novelty value more quickly. I've found it's better to spread it out a bit (within reason). But to each their own, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:10 PM
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This is sad bro. Consider the source. You're arguing with a woman whose last account was suspended (for god-only-knows what transgressions) less than a month ago and now she's claiming to be a man. Make out of that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 08:01 PM
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You met a guy and got married all in the span of a few weeks: https://www.reddit.com/user/Fantastic-Age-5598/comments/1b80y31/older_men_and_younger_men_hitting_on_me_yikes/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button Congratulations. That's amazing. It's odd how this sort of stuff (almost) only happens on reddit... with anonymous accounts that are a only a few weeks old.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 03:45 PM
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I didn't live with my (now) ex-wife. We maintained separate residences (only 15 minutes apart, but...). Honestly, that space - which we both wanted - is the only reason we lasted ten years. Distance - within reason, of course - is under-rated. In my view, at least. But long-distance... yeah, that's tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:30 PM
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And that's why I fight hard for my marriage. I appreciate this attitude even though I can't really relate to it. I have two conflicting views. On the one hand, I accept that most of the things that are valuable to a person involve effort and work. On the other hand, I just don't think relationships should be that difficult. And when they become difficult I'm pretty quick to jettison. Perhaps because it's always been relatively easy to find another, more suitable, less difficult partner (for a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 04:03 PM
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Congrats. 9+ years is a good run. (I had a 10-year run once - like you, no regrets.) Hopefully it endures. As I'm sure you're aware, your situation is rare. You see the evidence all around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:17 PM
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No, I'm not. I rarely use absolute terms like "all". To repeat myself: The statistics on divorce and happiness in long-term marriages - for whatever they're worth - actually support the world view that, yes, most marriages ultimately devolve into a Machiavellian power struggle. Not all of them, of course. But the majority. Problem is, it's very difficult to determine whether or not it will apply to yours ahead of time. Even in good marriages, there is often at least one party that (at least) occ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 03:07 PM
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To each their own. Related, since getting a vasectomy almost 30 years ago I've come to the view that sex with condoms doesn't qualify as sex. But again, to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:18 AM
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Because when people are unhappy and identify the source of their unhappiness as their significant other (and often other parent of their children) - and add in assets and custody issues - they often resort to Machiavellian tactics. I imagine a family law attorney would be happy to explain to you how this often works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 12:14 AM
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Speaking to the US, roughly half of marriages end in divorce. Of the remaining ~half of marriages, many surveys suggest that a decent percentage of folks aren't happy in them and remain in them for family, financial, social, etc reasons. So you're pretty much guaranteed to be over 50% right there. That's "most" and "the majority" without doing too much thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:57 PM
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The statistics on divorce and happiness in long-term marriages - for whatever they're worth - actually support the world view that, yes, most marriages ultimately devolve into a Machiavellian power struggle. Not all of them, of course. But the majority. Problem is, it's very difficult to determine whether or not it will apply to yours ahead of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:49 PM
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I'm not doubting that you feel this way... now. But as you're well aware, your relationship is going to change dramatically once that baby arrives. In some ways better, in other ways much worse. The question is how you're going to feel about all of this in 10 years once the bloom is far off the rose. It may be fantastic... but there's almost no way to tell ahead of time; it's a crapshoot. Many people don't realize they're married to the wrong woman until it's pretty late into the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:45 PM
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The only reason...? I have a hard time believing this, although everyone's different. Surely sex is an important component of wanting money and a house without children, but... I gotta believe most guys have a whole lot of other things they want to do in this situation besides just have sex. I'd probably support "one of the main reasons"...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 10:35 PM
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3 is possible, but better not in the beginning of relationships. Ok, so we've established that this would likely not qualify as "engaging in prostitution." If I'm wealthy, I would like NOT to attract women, who see it as my most attractive quality Of course, but here's the challenge: Let's say, for example, that you're in the top 1% (in the West) of wealth and income. The odds that you're also in the top 1% in terms of looks, personality, etc are pretty close to zero. So it's almost always going…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:50 PM
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A thought experiment. Let's say you earn 10x+ what the woman you're dating earns. You like to travel, fly first class, eat out a lot, etc etc etc. She can't pay for any of this; the money's just not there after accounting for life's basic expenses. For you it's not meaningful. Are you going to (1) try to date her but, at the same time, not allow her to join you in any of these activities because she can't afford it, (2) break up with her, despite digging her a lot, because she can't pay her own …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:25 PM
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I always pay because the money involved is insignificant and I can't be bothered to discuss the matter or even think about it. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:12 PM
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Nail; hit on head. If you can be much closer to guy #1 than guy #2, then what "most" women (or men) think is irrelevant. Don't be in that group of "most" and don't pay any attention to what "most" people think. In this particular case, "most" is the road to ruin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 09:21 PM
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A wild ass guess would be $50 million. If you're at the 90th percentile of PE compensation (for the entire industry) - forgetting about how fees and carry are split up - you should be making several million a year pre-tax (smoothed over a career). If you look at pages 18 - 27 you'll see that these are very big numbers with the most important determinant being the size of firm/fund you're working with: https://www.heidrick.com/-/media/heidrickcom/publications-and-reports/2021-north-america-pe-com…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:30 PM
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The only folks here I can be confident are even modestly wealthy are the folks who have been verified on r/fatFIRE. Otherwise, there are so many anonymous LARPers on reddit that you just have to embrace the amusement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:15 PM
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It's to be celebrated, not maligned. Once you accept these things and adapt accordingly, the world is full of interesting possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 06:06 PM
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Casual sex is great in theory but not so much in reality, mainly because you have to deal with the risks of pregnancy and disease, and the reality that the best sex comes a bit further into a relationship when both parties are comfortable with each other. In my view, sex with condoms may as well not even be sex. But condoms are going to be involved in 90%+ of casual sex unless the parties are nuts. Then you have no idea what your sexual compatibility is with this woman - it's a crapshoot. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:29 PM
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Yes, the carry is where the big compensation comes from. Most of the carry I earned occurred after I started my own firm. There is a VERY wide range of carry you can earn in PE that depends on how large the funds are, how many you're involved with, your percentage of carry, fees, performance (of course), etc etc etc. You really can't generalize without knowing these details. I had years where I made a few hundred thousand $ (with no liquidity events, thus no carry) and years where I made a few m…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 05:18 PM
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MGTOW had a similar set of "no's": No kids, no marriage, no cohabitation. Hmmm... I actually agree with these - ha! - but I thought MGTOW guys swore off women completely - no dating, nothing to do with the opposite sex - so I never really understood the attraction of the movement. Have I got that wrong? I rather like women, but... I have no interest in kids, marriage or cohabitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/24 07:19 PM
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I spent most of my career in PE - I managed or co-managed various funds and individual deals - but I did a bit of IB within that as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 05:05 PM
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Vaguely similar boat but very different ocean. I'm 56M but likely fitter than 90% of 30-year old males. (Of course that's a soft comparison - no pun intended - as probably 65% of this group are overweight, so it's not really saying that much today.) I still have all my hair (though it's almost white now), etc etc. My current girlfriend (of over two years) is 32, the one before her (for three years) was 38 when we met, and the one before that 31. I have no age preference, per se, but it's rare th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:18 AM
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(1) What percentage of the obese is less than 30 years old. If most of the overweightness is on the older people, that messes up the average. This graph is about 8 years old (yes, it's worse now) but there's not a huge difference by age group: https://conscienhealth.org/2018/06/growing-old-with-obesity-blowing-up-healthcare-budgets/ People. Are. Fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:52 AM
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Got it. So, nothing. Colombo's assistance is not required to see what's going on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:20 PM
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If it were true you could prove it. It's not so you can't. Anyone who's anonymous can say anything on the internet. And they often do. I like to apply the Sagan Standard to anything I read by anonymous posters on the internet: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Otherwise, it's just baloney. But, I'm happy to be wrong here... just post that photo along with an ID selfie. Don't be scared - hundreds of millions of people post their photos on the internet every day with no harm acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 05:33 AM
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Agreed. Just post a photo along with an ID selfie and the issue will be settled.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 10:50 PM
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Very few people breed in order to benefit society and civilization. They do it overwhelmingly to benefit themselves; because they want to create companions for themselves. Which, while not my cup of tea, is perfectly fine by me. But people are individuals within the context of making the decision to breed. And clearly so few people are capable of denying their programming in this regard that others can, in fact, act as individuals in making this choice. Apart from that, if the human race wants t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 05:50 PM
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I'm unemployed. I retired at 48. I worked for ~20 years in finance and accumulated capital which now generates income. I'm not a trust fund baby or drug dealer.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:22 AM
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their inability to maintain sexual arousal in a committed relationship. The men who suffer from this do not represent the majority of men I think they absolutely do represent the majority of men. And I think the majority of women feel the same. Maintaining sexual attraction to one's partner over decades is pretty unusual. The main reasons more folks don't cheat in their (very) long-term relationships are (1) they can't (for whatever reason), or (2) they're concerned about the consequences of get…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 10:49 PM
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I'm not sure why people - men or women - give this much thought. You're an individual. Live your life accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 09:55 PM
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My experience has been quite different from yours. Of course, I don't live in the US or Europe. I spend: $0 a week on Trebolone. $0 a week on testosterone. $0 a month on the gym. [But I spend ~50/month on tennis and padel] $150/week on food from the market + $100 eating out [I follow no diet] $0 a month on creatine/BCCA/pre-workout, and other supplements. I spent $24,000 on a Honda Pilot five years ago that I have in Mexico. I have no car in Medellin, just a bicycle. I bring these issues up only…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 06:28 PM
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above average in looks or in terms of wealth ^^ Be in that group. the vast majority of men aren't ^^ Don't be in that group. The average US adult male is overweight (borderline obese) and earns ~$65,000 a year. This is before addressing issues such as baldness (and other physical issues), social awkwardness, family baggage, etc etc etc. This guy doesn't have an enormous amount of options. women typically aren't interested in men 10-20 years older than them Yes, because most of these guys are unf…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 07:48 PM
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I fail to see anything depressing here in the least. I'm just enjoying myself. I have zero interest in, nor would I have time for, marriage or kids. (I got a vasectomy 30 years ago.) Life is good. Embrace it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:43 AM
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I think the popularity and prevalence of social media - facebook, instagram, tiktok, etc etc - suggests that many people, both men and women, want to be envied. Others' desire for a woman's partner would fit right in. Which of these views from a group of a woman's friends is more likely to be welcomed: "Your boyfriend is an unattractive loser." (Hey, good news, these women do not desire her man. She must be ecstatic.) or "Your boyfriend is so sexy. Let me know if you break up. Just kidding!" Tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:41 AM
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This thread is discussing an individual woman’s partner, not what she thinks of a man she sees with other women. These are two separate discussions. But they're not. Because her opinion of her own partner may have very well been influenced by the social proof afforded by other women. And it is unlikely she wants that social proof declining even after they're together. It even has a name among evolutionary psychologists: mate copying. A woman doesn’t want other women to desire or to steal her man…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:21 AM
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So you're acknowledging this is completely incorrect, yes?: Other women’s opinion of men is not a factor ​ Doesn’t mean a woman hopes her own man is seen as fuckable, does it? Actually, I'd say it means just that. Is there some meaningful difference between "I find this man more attractive because other women find him attractive" (per the science) and "I find this man more attractive because other women want to fuck him"? It's a distinction without a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:58 AM
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Other women’s opinion of men is not a factor I'm sure you're right, although the scientific evidence overwhelmingly suggests you're wrong: https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/evolution-could-explain-why-having-a-girlfriend-makes-men-more-attractive TLDR: "But the data we do have suggest that being with a woman — particularly a beautiful one thought to be the significant other — does increase a man’s appeal in the minds of female evaluators. In a 2018 review, 16 out of 18 studies found adding a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 01:47 AM
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OP specifically wrote, "they don't want you to [actually] cheat on them." The AWDTSG women are afraid their boyfriends are actually cheating on them. Women want to avoid cheaters. But they want guys who could cheat if they wanted to (because they're desired by other women) and choose not to (because they're "better than that" and "love her so much").
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 12:11 AM
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It's gone far better than I expected was possible; principally after 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 04:46 AM
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I've never understood the attraction of marriage. Between the divorce rate and the percentage of folks who remain married solely out of obligation or avoidance of inconvenience, it seems like there's about a 10% chance of actually entering into a good one. Two quips come to mind: Marriage is a triumph of hope over experience. When the gods want to punish us, they give us what we (think we) want. But, hey, different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:52 PM
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The other platforms have more stringent privacy filters. No one has to be anonymous unless they choose to be. Anywhere. Look, you're not in witness protection, a whistleblower or an enemy of the state, or anything remotely like that. I've been on Reddit for almost 7 years and zero negative repercussions not being anonymous. Anyone who wants to stalk me or dox me or whatever... have at it. Given how much folks share on other platforms, this concern is wildly overblown here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 12:05 AM
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Right. Normal Reddit etiquette is fear. A few billion folks using other social media - like Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok, etc - don't seem to worry about stalking, cancellation, etc too much. But here on Reddit... fear. If you have the strength of your convictions and can communicate in a civil manner... I just don't see the problem. But here we are... You asked, there it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:46 PM
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That 98% of the posters/commenters here are anonymous... like yourself? And would refuse to identify themselves if asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 11:36 PM
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Many folks here (1) want the world to be black and white, and struggle with nuance, (2) are riddled with insecurities, and (3) are petrified of voicing their views outside the umbrella of anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/24 10:37 PM
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I don't leave my bedroom, except to go to work or to the shops. Likely a source of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:39 PM
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You've never in your life met a woman who appeared somewhat indifferent to you upon first meeting and within 10 minutes of chatting she's laughing, leaning in, and playing with her hair, clearly showing sexual interest? Or you've never seen this happen with others? I'm likely much older than you but this is simply hard to believe as I've seen this play out countless times, and I suspect many others here have had the same experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:50 AM
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yet the only men she finds attractive is 1 or 2 men, the very tall and handsome men. The rest of the men there are completely invisible Yes, unless they engage in conversation all women have to go on are looks. Personal interaction is the key to attracting a woman if you're not in the top quintile or decile in terms of looks. Women will become sexually attracted to a guy who's not in that top group if he pushes the right buttons during that interaction. And that's very tough to do online. The av…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:01 AM
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Smaller population, fewer people consuming, fewer workers needed to produce those goods and services. The need for workers increases with the increase in population... and vice versa. An equilibrium will be maintained... but it won't always be smooth.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:22 PM
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Good. Who cares. Move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:59 PM
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Even on the note of OnlyFans: the vast majority of women on it make virtually, if not actually, nothing, especially compared to the amount of work and skill that kind of job takes (charisma, appropriate camera type and angles, mental energy, posing, knowledge of lighting, keeping up with the social media account, self-employment book keeping, the acting skills, obtaining props, etc). All of that, and she is insanely lucky if she even breaks 50$ per month. Actually a lot of these women don't make…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 06:33 PM
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Nope. Gonna drive, actually. I have some friends in Arizona that I haven't seen in a while. Makes it a bit more convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 06:55 PM
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Is this about marriage, divorce, or is this some mysterious non sequitur?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:01 AM
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Sure, but... intentions are plentiful; deeds are precious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 10:17 PM
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Is it better to be a child of divorce or one in a household with parents that can't stand each other? I don't know. Anecdotally, my parents (very amicably) divorced when me and my brother were pre-teens and it has had no material impact on our lives (that I can see). I know many folks with the same experience. But, again, that's all anecdotal. I realize there's a lot of research that says children of divorce suffer (in relative terms) but I wonder how much of this is (1) financial, and/or (2) th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 09:59 PM
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Only because marriage makes it more difficult to "un-couple" (that is, break up). If the logic is, "I want to make it as difficult and expensive as possible for you to leave in order to compel you to stay", then marriage makes all kinds of sense. I seriously doubt, however, it makes anyone happier. I have no data to back this up at all, but I suspect that if you looked at two different cohorts of couples with kids - one cohort married, the other unmarried - the latter group are more content, on …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 08:40 PM
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Of course they do. Everyone considers their other options. But when you're content, consideration of these options is way in the back of your head. When you're not content, they make their way to the front of your head. Clearly you've been thinking a lot about your options, hence your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:11 PM
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If you were actually happy with Plan A, you wouldn't be considering Plan B or C enough to bother making a post about your regrets regarding not availing yourself of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:10 PM
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This: I wifed up the girl that was there with me through the hard times and we have a kid together now. Does not necessarily equal this: So I know I won the game. Personally, I would be completely miserable in your shoes. But, admittedly, different strokes for different folks - people's brains are wired differently. But, hold the presses... However I find it very hard to let it all go... I just can't stop thinking about all girls I could have been getting instead right now. So... in fact you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:41 PM
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Right, just as a person won't consent to a job without being paid ("money being involved," in your lexicon). If someone doesn't pay their employee for work that's been performed it's non-payment for services rendered, which is illegal. You can spin this six ways to Sunday but ultimately prostitution is just... work. That happens to involve sex. That happens to be stigmatized based on millennia of magical thinking religious beliefs. It may be unpleasant and potentially dangerous work but... it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 04:51 PM
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So... anyone who has consented to any work in exchange for pay isn't really consenting to that work because money is involved? That's going to come as a surprise to most people around the world with a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:59 AM
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Looks is just one component of masculinity, as I explained. "Physical attraction" is a function of much more than just looks, wealth being just one of these other factors, (again) as I explained. No, wealth won't turn a troll like Harvey Weinstein into a sexually desired man - the base is too low to begin with. But wealth will turn an average-looking guy into a more physically desired man. It won't turn him into Brad Pitt but it'll raise his sexual desirability meaningfully. Women are sexually, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 09:29 PM
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Heterosexual women are attracted (generally) to masculinity. The easiest way to judge a man's masculinity is his looks - face, body, height, etc. It's literally right there in front of you - immediate reaction, no conversation required. Which is why looks are so important in attracting women (and especially in OLD). But masculinity is also communicated through confidence, status, intelligence, wealth, success, athleticism, social skills, etc etc. But these characteristics, unlike looks, often ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 05:05 AM
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Hey, do what you want. Let the chips fall where they may.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:49 PM
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Lies are the social lubricant of virtually all relationships. The relationship can't exist without them. Not big ones, of course, but a lot of small ones. They generally fall into the "what you don't know won't hurt you" classification. Often they're just told to spare someone's feelings ("You look great" - she looks fat) or avoid of bit of grief ("I was working on my taxes" - while you were actually watching TV). Most people figure this out as children. If everyone started telling the absolute …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 08:28 PM
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The main reason older men date relatively younger women is because these women tend to be more attractive. There are plenty of exceptions to that rule but it's pretty much this. If anything many older women will put up with more bullshit than a younger woman because the former generally have fewer options than the latter. Edit: grammar
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 07:26 PM
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A lifetime of Happiness contentment is winning. I amended that. "Happiness" is a bit like joy... somewhat fleeting. But contentment is more sustainable. Just my two cents. If you're content - rich or poor, young or old, married or single or whatever, living in a castle or a shotgun shack - you're winning. It's just that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:25 PM
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Social status is earned. There's no buying into it. There are plenty of rich people without status because they fail to thrive amongst their peers socially. Yes, but the manner in which that "earning" takes place varies. There is a very small percentage of wealthy folks who earn social status based on achievement alone. There is a considerably larger group - although still small in percentage terms - of wealthy folks that "earn" social status by engaging in vapid, ass-kissing, keep-up-with-the-j…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 06:53 AM
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From an outside woman's perspective who was actually raised by a strong, self-made father, its very obvious to me that most redpill men are the direct result of flawed parents, more specifically, a failure of a father. From a no-pill perspective I don't think it's fruitful to speculate on "parental failure" when analyzing these various "pill" groups. People raised under the same roof often turn out wildly different. My parents divorced when me and my brother were young (we're two years apart) bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 03:53 AM
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Yeah, I saw a few episodes a few years back but it didn't keep my attention. Obviously it's scripted TV for maximum engagement. Like all of the other reality shows (none of which I watch). It's just not my bag. Given the (mind-boggling) proliferation of "Housewives of X" shows, apparently people find those antics a lot more unusual/entertaining than international relationships going awry. I would've guessed the opposite. Just another reason I don't run Bravo.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 12:01 AM
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This discussion is a bit of a waste of time. First, assuming they even desire one, only a small percentage of men can even enter these age gap relationships (as you're going to need some combination of looks/wealth/status/etc). Second, most women aren't going to be interested in a relationship with guys with this dating profile anyway. Finally, the age-gap guys don't seem to give a fuck what other folks think. So, when you put it all together it doesn't tend to engender a very fruitful discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:54 PM
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I'm guessing that technically most of that business had moved to the internet 15 years ago. Semantics aside, however, I think that "international dating" - or whatever the term of art used is - is far less frowned upon today than, say, 20 years ago. And I suspect that trend will continue as the internet/social media continue to proliferate and the world continues to get "smaller." And hardly anyone will care.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 11:38 PM
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The Big Positive for a Western man regarding international dating is that - all else equal - the guy will have many, many more options. The Big Negative is that the fundamental laws of attraction don't really change. So, benefits related to the Big Positives really only apply for a relatively short period of time (that is, years, not decades). Having said that, sexual attraction doesn't appear to last long periods in many relationships at all, regardless of origin or circumstances. The challenge…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:44 PM
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I don’t think the ridicule of it will stop any time soon Perhaps, but... fifteen years ago online dating was ridiculed ("Who is that desperate?"). Today it's completely mainstream and represents about half of all relationships. The world moves on...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 06:30 PM
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This simply can't be said enough. If you have to explain to someone how "alpha" you are then maybe...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:31 PM
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Don't seek out a wife. Women can dress and act how they choose. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:08 PM
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I will add to be fair. Men have a Midlife Crisis too. Its the opposite direction. Men try to regain the youth they had to give up being responsible. They now want to go out on all the dates, have all the sex. Buy the toys they missed out on or gave up. Why is this considered a "crisis" or in any way bad? It sounds like liberation to me. That it's a "crisis," somehow, for anyone to pursue their true interests, as opposed to the things Society says they're supposed to pursue (wife/husband, kids, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 03:52 AM
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All a woman has to do, even if you've never even hear of her, to destroy you is to just say "he raped me", or if she's feeling merciful and only wants to destroy your next 40 years or so, "he hit me". Ok, but... in percentage terms this happens quite rarely - to perhaps a low single-digit percentage of men? (Reading about these cases on the internet gives the false impression this happens more often than it actually does.) But, ok, if you're that worried about these issues: (1) don't get married…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:49 PM
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If two consenting adults enjoy sex with each other... I fail to see what the problem is with that. But that's just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 12:25 AM
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such as unrealistic standards which can be stopped with better regulation of social media because social media has skewed people’s perceptions. Never. Going. To. Happen. The response is going to be: (you) stop using social media if it's upsetting you. No one's putting a gun to your head. I suspect people's perceptions of how "the other half" lives (along with an increased envy quotient) was influenced by Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous back in the '80s; it skewed people's perceptions of how we…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:36 PM
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Anyone who views this sub - and reddit, generally - as anything more than a bit of entertainment needs to check their meds.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 09:22 PM
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I see most posters here - men and women - making sweeping generalizations on this sub about all sorts of things. I don't see much of a difference in the logic applied by either sex. But, the majority of posters here are men, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 05:58 PM
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For the same reason a lot of folks successful in business (and wealthy) have a certain confidence outside of their professional interactions or, similarly, you may have heard someone describe another guy as "having the confidence of a former athlete." Plenty of people derive confidence from (exceptional) things most people they meet will never actually know about because it's simply ingrained in their persona. This may be misplaced confidence in many instances. But that's the way many people's b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:54 PM
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I can't think of any. Although I don't live in the US/Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:02 PM
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I agree, but... your worth in the context of your friends is determined by your friends. Your worth in the context of a relationship is determined by your partner. Your worth in the context of a job is determined by your employer. Etc. So, yes, you should determine your own value to you. But once interactions with other humans enter the picture, they determine your value to them and the group, not you. But, of course, you don't have to let society be "enforced upon" you; you can live outside of …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:22 PM
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I can only speak from my own experience. My (single) mom had an issue with my brother's first wife (for good reason) and otherwise was perfectly nice to both me and my brother's girlfriends/wives. That's anecdotal of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/23 09:16 PM
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I guess I thought this was obvious but... neither, by itself, is indicative of a winner or a loser. You're winning if you're content; you're losing if you're not. It's exactly that simple. There are boatloads of miserable married men (see divorce stats) just as there are boatloads of miserable single men (see this sub). A random man's contentment is likely uncorrelated with his marital status, as people's brains aren't all wired the same. I thought this was common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:59 AM
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As a no-piller I (generally) agree with your second sentence. But why are men only "decent" if they have a wife and kids? That seems slightly absurd. If a wife and kids are a sine qua non of "decency" then I have zero interest in being decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:32 AM
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Also, most married people are older people. Of course sex becomes a "chore" because MOST MEN in marriages, co-habitation, and/or LTRs are NOT his significant other's first (second, third, or fourth) choice. Cubicle Carl and Basic Bob does NOT give the intimate "tingles" of Chad, Tyrone, Ramone, Ray Ray and Pookie. Agree with your first two sentences. But here's the thing about the above paragraph... the women who manage to lock down a Chad, Tyrone, etc into a marriage/LTR... well, they get tired…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:10 AM
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others are clearly embarrassed about it. A sure sign that mediocre (at best) sex is in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:41 PM
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Women get implants and would never admit that, sometimes even after a man has felt them. Hmmm. The women I've dated have almost always been quite pleased with their implants, not ashamed in the least. Maybe it's a cultural thing. I live in Latin America.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 09:30 PM
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Disney called. They want their romantic fantasy plot line back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:46 AM
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Well, there's also breakfast, travel, parties and some other stuff... dating can cover a lot of ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/23 05:44 AM
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That's one option, yes. Or... you could be in a monogamous relationship in which you don't co-habitate, nor have kids together, nor expect it to last a lifetime. Or... other possible permutations.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:09 PM
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Fulfilling relationships don't have to last forever. Fulfilling relationships don't require that you see each other every day. Fulfilling relationships don't require kids. I have zero desire to marry, live with someone, or have kids, and yet I've had many fulfilling relationships. Hell, I'm in one now. "Fulfilling" is clearly in the eyes of the participants, much like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 06:43 AM
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I'm planning to get a vasectomy once I'm 30. This is the answer. Got one at 33 and never looked back. Might want to freeze some sperm (I did for 10 years) just in case you change your mind about kids (I didn't).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:58 AM
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Exactly. And if religion were the same, it wouldn't exist. But humans have a yen for fairy tales and magical thinking, both of which probably served some evolutionary purpose back in the dark ages. Such things are hard to shake. It comes with the territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:59 PM
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Because humans impute value onto all sorts of things that actually have none (eg, religion). It's part of the human condition. Most humans are fearful and insecure, which engenders a desire to control others. Sex fits right in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:51 PM
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I dont' agree that many people are wired your way. Many in absolute terms, not necessarily in percentage terms. I think much of social norms and conventions are reflections of our more inherent drives. You mean like organized religion, the source of many of our norms and conventions, is a reflection of our inherent drive to exert social control over others and deceive ourselves about the finality of death? Well, I agree with you there and I'll take a pass on "inherent drives". I think finding lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:42 PM
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If we can call it "non-monogamy," nothing, really. Just avoid pregnancy and disease. "Cheating" presumes some agreement that the two parties are going to be monogamous, which should be upheld if that's the agreement they've made. Whether that's a good or bad agreement to make is a separate issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:27 PM
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It's lonely on your own. You want a family, purpose, and more meaning that just self indulgence. No, YOU might want that. I certainly don't. The notion that having a family is the only way you can find "purpose" in your life is awfully myopic. There are an almost infinite number of ways that people can find meaning in their lives. Personally, I love being with people - men and women. But I love being alone just as much, if not more. Living with someone or having kids would be absolute torture fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:17 PM
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Is exactly why guys looking for LTRs are trying to avoid women like you. Umm... I'm a guy. So you might want to have another go at that screed from a different angle. Which is why men don't like sluts. Speak for yourself. I like sluts. Of course, I'm not in the market for marriage or anything similar. And guys don't want to MARY and invest their entire future on it. The only person I'm investing my entire future in is me. Anyone who puts their entire future in the hands of another person is begg…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:02 PM
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If you're going to be a partner for life Hollywood called. They want their fantasy back. her sexuality is actually pretty cheap and not really that picky at all. Here's a thought: Don't put sex up on some unrealistic pedestal. It's just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults (in which, admittedly, you need to be careful about pregnancy and disease, which is easily achieved) - nothing more and nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:37 PM
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I know how to vet. I just like slutty girls with red flags. I'm not in the market for marriage or a live-in girlfriend, so I just don't care about a lot of what other people consider to be red flags. Happiness = Results - Expectations The problem for a lot of folks here is that their expectations (Disneyfied life-long romantic love with a virgin that bears two kids and never thinks of another man) are ridiculous so they'll always be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:30 AM
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If you expect your kids (1) visiting when you're older as some major component of your social life, and/or (2) caring for you when you're old, then you're well and truly fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:23 AM
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You don't want to date within your friend group. You want to date acquaintances of your friends and acquaintances of those acquaintances - basically people that you meet that are more loosely affiliated with your friend group. The larger your social group, the more social events you go to, the more activities you're involved in, the more of these secondary and tertiary folks you're going to meet. It's only complicated for folks that don't have active social lives. So there's probably some advers…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:25 PM
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I agree, I think if a man is attractive and ages reasonably well, he would probably be happier as a childfree eternal bachelor A lot of these men don't realize this until after they've bought into the Disney eternal-love-and-two-kids lie. By then it's often too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:04 PM
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"Want", no. But do I really care deeply if it's messy or inefficient? Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:15 AM
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I agree. I think I misunderstood the term. I thought it was just hopping from one relationship to another but if it's staying in a suboptimal relationship until a better one comes along... yeah, that's silly for all involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:57 AM
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I've never understood the issue with "monkeybranching." If you find a better option, you should take it. Male or female. Do we ask folks to stay at suboptimal jobs out of some misplaced sense of loyalty? Not often. Why the same thought process doesn't apply to relationships I don't know. Now, do a lot of folks monkeybranch only to find that the grass wasn't actually greener? Sure. Well, that's on them. Live and learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:34 AM
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I like big butts and I cannot lie... I'm a fan of the BBL. But not butt implants, which often look (and feel) ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:17 AM
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Do you live in an area with an unusually large amount of mental defectives? There's little if any correlation between an abortion and later infertility. The odds any random person's child is going to have any significant impact on larger society is not materially different from zero. These folks are as delusional as the religious nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:24 PM
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Most folks are anti-abortion for religious reasons. Their beliefs have precious little to do with hoping for the next Albert Einstein. C'mon now.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:24 AM
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I'm not very interested in the future beyond my own life. And I don't need any children to take care of me via social security or other ponzi-like financial arrangement. If I had been the last child born on Earth I'd have had no issue with that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:16 AM
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but I'm tired of them projecting their own selfishness onto people who have kids when it is completely the other way around. Having kids isn't selfish? Hmm. Whenever I ask folks why they want to have kids, the answer always begins with: "Well, I want..." People don't have kids for the good of society. They just want to have kids. Which is fine by me - I could not care less. But let's not kid (no pun intended) ourselves: they're doing it for themselves and no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:02 PM
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Ultimately if you obsess about what other people are thinking about you 24/7 and act according to those obsessions you're just a cuck to life itself. Which sounds pretty miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:39 PM
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If you're stuck with any car for life that you ultimately get tired of then you've made a bad deal - doesn't matter if it's new or used, Porsche or otherwise. But assuming the same time period, if neither guy can tell the difference between the new and used models... then it doesn't really matter so long as they're both happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:36 PM
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Frankly, she should probably be more concerned about my exes because that bar has been set very, very high.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:22 PM
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Sorry but I'm not "standing in solidarity" with a bunch of strangers in order to ruin my dating/sex life. While I refuse to date a woman that's even remotely overweight, I don't give a rat's ass about n-count, etc. But I'm not in the market for marriage or a live-in girlfriend or anything like that. You're on your own. And always will be. Learn to love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:21 AM
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Yeah. If this sub is correct, only a small percentage of men are meaningfully successful with OLD today. I accept that. If this sub is correct, "cold approaching" women is very different today than it was a decade ago. I kind of accept that. So, what's left? Your social group (and I might loosely include folks you know through social media - not anonymous redditors, of course). And if you don't have a social group, then the question is why. And then what percentage of women are going to be inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:51 PM
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There is no mention whatsoever of pursuit of "long-term relationship" in the study you site. Zero. But, sure, let's assume men are less likely to enter a serious relationship with these women. I'm ok with that. Well, as I noted, not all women are looking for a serious relationship with every man they meet, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:27 PM
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Yes, and my reply was: This is likely a relationship/marriage vs. dating/sex issue. A guy is likely more concerned with issues of "warmth, competence, morality, and humanness" if he's thinking long term. Otherwise, these issues may be secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:31 PM
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That's a recipe for frustration and if you ask women, that's pretty much what it is with the eternal "what are we" question. If you go back to my original comment, you'll see that I was addressing what a guy is concerned with not what a woman is concerned with. So if women are entering into arrangements that are a "recipe for frustration" then... bummer. They probably shouldn't do that. And yet they often do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:00 PM
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Are women truly looking for men to pursue them who simply want to have sex with them? Generally, no, I don't think they're looking for men to pursue them only for sex. But I think there are a lot of women who are happy to be in situationships, for lack of a better word, in which sex is a primary aspect and friendship/companionship is secondary. In other words, they're not necessarily looking for something that's leading to marriage. Or they may be looking for something that's leading to marriage…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:14 PM
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​ In reality there are no consequences for promiscuity and men are content with higher divorce rates, instability, and cheating within marriages. Humans - men and women - have shown themselves to be pretty bad at marriage. The Disneyfication of the institution itself is largely to blame. Personally, I'd avoid it. If one makes no promises, one will break no promises. But hope springs eternal...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 07:00 PM
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This is likely a relationship/marriage vs. dating/sex issue. A guy is likely more concerned with issues of "warmth, competence, morality, and humanness" if he's thinking long term. Otherwise, these issues may be secondary.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:54 PM
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You're 100% right. Men actually chase thots and fake women, that's what they desire. They talk all about 'high value women' but they don't actually care for those. Men's actions don't match their words. Personally, I like thots and "fake" women (I prefer "enhanced" - I'm body positive, you see). "High value women"? I'm not sure exactly what that is, but it sounds great for friendship. But where dating/sex is concerned, as long as she's reasonably nice and doesn't have some major social defect...…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:34 PM
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Nah, maybe you never got with a woman with a high count Statistically speaking, it's almost a certainty. But I don't ask or care about a woman's body count. Different strokes and all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:18 AM
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But you'll never know if this was the case. You will, however, know the degree to which you enjoyed it. And, in most cases, the degree to which you enjoy it will be correlated with the degree to which she enjoys it. But, not always. It's not my cup of tea but plenty of guys love fucking prostitutes and don't give a rat's ass about whether they enjoy it. They're not hung up on "previous guys" or any of that shit because other folks' experiences and opinions are irrelevant to their personal enjoym…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:06 AM
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Close the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:55 AM
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Lots of casual sex fries the part of the brain responsible for bonding, no question I really don't think that's it. Time and experience reveal the Disneyfied notion of "lifetime romantic love" to be unrealistic (casual sex has little to do with anything). For most folks this happens in their 30s or 40s. You can have lifetime friendships. But lifetime romantic love - this deep, profound friendship/connection accompanied by enjoyable sex - is just a bridge too far. Humans just aren't wired for mul…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:50 AM
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What kind of guy are you, and in your opinion, what sealed the deal on making her want to be with you? I'm a no piller. I assume she wants to be with me because I possess a combination of traits which make me attractive, sexually and otherwise, to her such that I represent her best option. I assume this has been the case for every relationship I've ever had. But for those that locked down an actual gf and not a fwb, how? We've been together for about two years but I wouldn't describe her as "loc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 07:21 PM
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It certainly can be like that, yes. But, a lot of the time... it's just people over-valuing themselves. Humans do a lot of that - they're not objective about themselves. But certainly both are happening out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 09:03 PM
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This. It's not unlike the job market. You don't determine your value; the market does. If you think you're worth $500k/year but the best offer you can get is $100k, well, guess what, you're worth $100k. And, no, it doesn't matter what you made previously because the market changes. Of course you can dig your heels in and not accept what the market is telling you. And "you'll get nothing and like it."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:36 PM
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men need to start lifting each other up and speaking up, reminding them that they ARE in fact above average and not to accept less than their worth. All of them? Well, Garrison Keillor called. He wants his maths back.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 05:26 PM
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Actually, yes, yes... many attractive socially adept men pay prostitutes (from time to time). Consult Heidi Fleiss' black book, which included (younger) Charlie Sheen, Billy Idol, Johnny Depp, etc etc. Many more attractive, socially adept men end up married to women who they, in effect, end up paying for their attention. And, yes, some men do become more attractive and socially adept as they age. Although they're exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:46 PM
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For the most part, yes. But I allow for exceptions - the "glow ups" (to use the term of art) - although they're not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 10:30 PM
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How in the world do TRP men not see they are paying for sex from younger women? How in the world do you not see that some are and some aren't? Some of these men - admittedly, a minority of them - have a blend of characteristics (looks/wealth/status/power/etc) that are sexually attractive to most women, even many younger women. Others don't have them. The latter are, as you suggest, paying for sex from younger women (whether they realize it or not). The former are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 09:55 PM
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Hey, believe what you want. It's no skin off my back. Why do you think that is? I don't think of it at all. It's mind over matter. I don't mind because it doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 07:17 PM
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Here's my take: I don't think any woman that Weinstein had sex with actually wanted to have sex with him or enjoyed it in any way, shape or form. But... I think some of his accusers - almost impossible to tell which ones or how many - had "consensual" sex with him because they thought it would further their career. But do I think he "raped" some of these women? Yes. I just don't know which ones. I don't think there is a single woman who would've had sex with Harvey if they knew they could get wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:50 PM
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be getting bent over right in front of you by some ugly A-level producer and loving it I'm not arguing your general point - status/power are indicators of masculinity, which hetero women find sexually appealing - but... must we assume that all of Harvey Weinstein's accusers actually loved having sex with him because of his status? Are all of the women having sex with these unattractive A-lister men loving it? 100% (as you say)? That's a bridge quite a bit too far for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:19 PM
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People can be both degenerates and still be quite useful to society. They are not mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/23 06:15 PM
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Well, I bought three floors in three separate transactions over three years. I'd say the total, all-in including a complete renovation (and subdividing) of each floor as well as the exterior of the building, legal, etc was about US$520,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 09:04 PM
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I'm an accidental "geomaxxer" (to use this sub's term of art). I moved to Baja, Mexico from San Diego (~25 miles south as a crow flies) 10 years ago to escape CA taxes. (I speak Spanish and had already spent a lot of time in Baja.) Then a few years later one of my neighbors moved to Medellin, I went to visit him, met a lot of folks over various trips, ended up buying an apartment building, and now I spend about half the year there. This is a copy/paste of a comment I made several months back on …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 06:20 PM
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How old are you?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:05 AM
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A good sexual relationship rarely lasts. Humans get tired of fucking each other. Doesn't really matter how attractive either party is. Some folks decide that the friendship aspect of the relationship is more important than the sex, which is fine. But most folks won't make that tradeoff unless they're forced into it. That's a big reason why divorce attorneys will always have a lot of new clients. What's the longest romantic relationship that you've had?
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:48 AM
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I specifically used the word "generally." The videos, etc that you see online are exceptions to normal life. That's why they get so many views. That's why a video titled "Man crosses suburban street safely" won't get many views. Because there's nothing unusual happening. The moment folks stop posting videos and stories of people making fun of incels - because it's become completely normalized - that's when incels should worry. The larger world doesn't give much of a shit about incels, positive o…
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:09 AM
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With attractive women with options, yes. With average and unattractive women with fewer options, no. Very few women with options are going to want to deal with an autistic guy regardless of how handsome he is (although the extent of the autism will play a major part). Unfortunately.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:02 AM
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I have no issue with sharing bodies. I don't view sex as some purity-related religious act but rather just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults where, ideally, there is also a friendship. I play tennis with people who play (and have played) with many other people. The people who have played the most with the most other players tend to be the best players. I valued romantic relationships to some extent in the past but realized they had two major deficiencies: (1) they didn't last, …
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 11:57 PM
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I, on the other hand, like hoes and their hoe-fluencing of other women. I guess it takes all kinds. To each their own.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 09:11 PM
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Sorry, I thought that was obvious. My point was that if either a man or a woman were to ask about, or find important, one's bodycount, then it would be a red flag. Hence, "applies equally to men."
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:52 PM
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I wouldn't know. I've never discussed bodycount with a woman in my life. It's never occurred to me that it was important in any way, shape or form.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:45 PM
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How on Earth have I managed... it's a mystery.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:41 PM
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Applies equally to men.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:33 PM
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Anecdotes aside, I don't think this is generally the case. Incels: I think the World treats us terribly. The World: We don't think of you at all.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 08:29 PM
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It’s never them quietly leaving and enjoying their lives with foreign tourists omen. Never? I'm not sure how you figure this. Actually, I suspect that 98% of them do just that. But they're not on the internet talking about it. The internet folks are a tiny percentage of the total.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:38 PM
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Comment from the OP: I am quite ugly so there is likely more to it than just height. Shocker.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:20 PM
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Indeed. And doesn't contradict my previous post. Similarly, many men become unattracted to their partners over time. Generally, Time + Kids = Lifesupport Bedroom.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 05:17 PM
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I'm hopeful someone's paying you to repeat this line ad nauseam. Because it's nonsensical. Is the person pissing their pants inside the same pair of pants with their dad? (These must be XXXL pants - maybe they're at a carnival.) Or is he just with his dad and they are both pissing their own pants at the same time? Indeed... why are they pissing their pants, and simultaneously? Enquiring minds...
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:55 PM
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Highly, almost impossibly, unlikely. Do you really believe that of the hundreds of millions of women who can't orgasm (or have difficulty doing so) that not a single one of them is in a relationship with (or married to) a Chad who is both hot enough and has a big enough dick? I'd bet everything I own you're wrong by a very wide margin there.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 11:43 PM
1

True. I haven't lived in the US for many years - I live in Latin America (Mexico/ Colombia) so I'm not seeing what you're seeing if you're in the US/Europe. I read about it but... it has virtually no impact on my life whatsoever.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:16 PM
1

I didn't say it was an issue. I think it's great that women can grift like this. I'm pro-instagrifter. I've dated a couple.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:10 PM
1

Given the percentage of wealth controlled by women, the number of female CEOs, the percentage of females in Congress, etc etc... I think that's quite a ways off so I don't give it much thought.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:07 PM
1

Welp, life ain't easy or fair. You gotta do the best you can with the hand you've been dealt with the players at your table. I suppose I'm somewhat ambivalent about "pre-matriarchy" and "society spiraling out of control." I don't give either much thought. I've never understood this pedestal of purity that sex is foisted upon by so many. It's just an activity to be enjoyed between consenting adults; nothing more, nothing less. But to each their own.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 09:05 PM
1

Simping is destructive because it contributes to female entitlement and ego…ugly , ungraceful things to witness, so we should care Welp, feel free to care then. I politely decline.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:55 PM
0

Ah, ok... I don't know why anyone cares about this stuff. I don't really care what other people are doing - it's irrelevant. To each their own.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:49 PM
0

But it yields zero results... so who cares.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:39 PM
1

How often does non-monetary simping lead to sex with a sub-Chad guy? I thought that's why the term is betabuxx - as in money. If "attention/asskissing simping" isn't leading to sex - which I imagine it rarely does - who cares about it? The OP's post is clearly about sex. So in this context, yes, simping is principally - if not entirely - about resources.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:38 PM
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The blue pill simps anger the black pill incels, because blue pill simps are essential for feminism and female entitlement to expand. Simps also dismiss incels legitimate grievances as fixable with a better personality (aka also being a blue pill simp….lol….yeah ok) I suspect there are quite a lot of black pill incels that are incapable of (even) simping because they don't have the money to overcome their appearance and personality issues. They would simp if they could but even simping is out of…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 08:18 PM
1

Blackpill response: No, explain to her how you're a betabuxx. *rim shot* (Sorry, I couldn't resist)
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 07:10 PM
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Lastly, depending on the girl and her type of content, she’d lose followers if they knew she had a boyfriend. This is mainly it. Related, there are lots of instagrifters who use their accounts to attract men who will send them money and gifts. This is a whole cottage industry, especially outside the US where the girls get money from foreigners they can string along and never risk having to meet in person. It's a great grift, but doesn't work so well if you've got your boyfriend plastered all ove…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:53 PM
2

Another means normies unknowingly out themselves as betabuxxes and cucks is when they say to pleasure a woman you need to use your hands, toys, or mouth. Studies have shown that attractive men need to use none of these because when women are with attractive men they vaginally orgasm naturally: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513811000250 I don't think you're interpreting this summary correctly. Where do any of these studies mention "hands, toys, or mouth" or lack there…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:49 PM
2

The problem with casual sex is two-fold. One, condoms. If it involves a condom, it doesn't qualify as sex to me. Just my personal view. Two, I don't know a stranger's sexual inclinations and proclivities. With casual sex, you have to discover this over and over again, likely with repeated disappointment. So I'd much rather "date" a girl for a while and have unrestrained, adventurous condom-free sex than seek out casual sex with women for whom (a) I don't know their sexual proclivities, and (b) I…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 07:38 AM
5

I got a vasectomy at 32 so I wouldn't have to contemplate such issues. I'll use a condom the first one or two times to determine whether it's going to be a regular thing. But after that, she's getting tested, because long-term condom use is a deal breaker for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:26 AM
5

It makes no sense to have sex with a risky prospect when the probability of loss is so high. What's the risk, exactly? What is this loss of which you speak? Enquiring minds... Highly paid investment bankers and private equity folks for example are not fucking slutty women. I fuck slutty women. I'm pro-slutty women. In fact, outside of friendship, I have no interest in non-slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 07:08 AM
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It can get easier. But it generally doesn't. Most guys don't age well. They let themselves go. My 50s have been better than my 20s, which were decent. But I haven't lived in the US for many years so I'm a somewhat useless anecdote.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:33 AM
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This, yes, but also... I think most women under 30 in the US/Europe have a switch in their brains regarding age that exists outside of looks. It goes: "Over 40, no way," or "Over 50, no way." Regardless of looks. Once they get past 30, the age is less relevant than just "Do I find him attractive?" To use an extreme example, plenty of women in their twenties (in the US/Europe) would have zero interest in Brad Pitt (or his non-star lookalike) simply because: he's too old. Forget about his looks. H…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 06:18 AM
4

For women under 30 and in the US/Europe, probably a lot of truth to this. Over 30 and/or other parts of the world, not nearly as true... but still an issue. The US and Europe seem like major bummer dating markets generally, but especially for under-30s. But dems da breaks.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 04:53 AM
1

I briefly scanned your post and couldn't find any links to peer reviewed replicated research anywhere. Where is the research on women's sexual attraction to men's non-physical, non-resource based characteristics? I suspect this is quite hard to research because of the difficulty of accurately measuring both the women's sexual attraction and these "other" characteristics that men possess. A body and a face are easy to measure. Wealth is easy to measure. But how do you measure charm, humour, perso…
/r/AllPillDebate11/11/23 06:34 PM
0

Women get tired of fucking the same Chad just as men get tired of fucking the same woman. I'm sure you've heard the phrase: For every attractive woman there are a bunch of guys who got tired of fucking her. The same applies to Chad. Humans - males and females - get tired of fucking the same human; it doesn't matter how attractive they are. It's that simple.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 09:48 PM
1

Maybe they don't care.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 07:11 PM
1

I briefly "dated" a chick who was selling videos of her and her friend having sex to dudes for 3k. I've been in plenty of these videos. But selling them for $3k? Never. That's a great haul - a lot of coin for one video sold to one customer. Unless I'm misunderstanding the transaction.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:20 PM
2

There's no Union of Men to enforce this "no betabuxxing" desire. I don't know why anyone cares what anyone else is doing in the sex/dating/relationship space. Just do your thing; what anyone else is doing is irrelevant. Because if it is relevant, then you're fucked.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 06:15 PM
1

In many cases a woman is fucking and dating just one dude; that is, she's dating a guy she's actually attracted to. And fucking him. Not always, of course. But a lot of the time. I don't think there's this huge percentage of women who are fucking one group of guys and dating a different group of guys who they just go out on dates with but don't have sex with. I don't think many guys in the latter group are going to put up with that arrangement for very long, and it seems like a lot of work for t…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 05:43 AM
1

Nobody is giving guys shit for a few hours a week on a game. They give guys shit for being obsessed and spending a weeks worth of time every day on these things. It's this. No one gets shit for any hobby - even a "nerdy" hobby like gaming - if they're not obsessed with it or if it's social in nature. The problem with gaming is the combination of the fact that it's both anti-social and gamers tend to spend a LOT of time doing it. Someone who does nothing but work on cars as a hobby in his/her fre…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/23 05:26 AM
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I don't know if this is available where you live but a great way to meet women is: dog rescue groups. As it happens, I've been doing dog rescue for several years now - I'm actually opening a refuge of my own, and I'm in a relationship - but, if I wasn't, I would get involved because there are lots of single women involved in this. I was at a benefit on Saturday night and three separate women asked me if I was single, not for themselves but to set me up with some friend. I was a bit surprised, fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/23 11:22 PM
1

I've seen this too, but... definitely doesn't happen much in OLD. And doesn't happen much without a warm intro out in the real world. If you're average I think you've gotta meet via friends/parties/social events. Otherwise, I think it's pretty tough.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:25 PM
1

whores with bodycounts of 30+ has SKYROCKETED in the last decade. And what a relief. Saves a lot of training. May slutdom reign supreme!
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 09:13 PM
0

Plenty of these guys are total failures at life outside of being attractive and sexually successful. Plenty are depressed, alcoholics, drug addicts, in therapy, kill themselves, etc. Being sexually successful is great but... it won't fill the hole in someone who feels empty inside. It would be pretty easy to name a whole lot of sexually successful celebrities that have all sorts of problems that clearly aren't abated by being sexually successful.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 06:33 AM
1

It's quite simple. Anyone can have whatever standards s/he wants. And deal with the consequences. But do expect to get ridiculed for complaining that your standards can't be met, because the market is the market. And you don't always get what you want because life ain't fair. Some woman fucked around and found out too late that she's not gonna find someone that meets her "standards" that wants to wife her up and have kids with her? Tough shit. Some ISIS-lover can't find a "traditional" Disney vi…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:45 PM
4

Agreed. She's not just a human. She's at least two humans. In one.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:32 PM
7

Ok, ok... that one made me laugh.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:30 PM
12

Sadly true but I nevertheless choose to see the humour in it.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:29 PM
2

I'm saying I'm happy not to receive any SS or FICA. Ever. Even though I've paid the maximum into the system. But exempt me from Federal taxes until I die. I'm more than happy to go solo into old age but... I ain't sending any more money to the Federal government, since it's not going to support me. (I don't even live in the US, but the point remains.) In terms of "only return what you paid and no more," we should include compounded interest in that calculation, yes? That really adds up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 06:49 PM
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Leave old childless people at their own, don't feed retirement with younger money, let them work to the end for themselves. Basically a state for themselves, where they vote, produce and get paid by each other to the end. Not give them any social benefits that may cost and stress younger people more. This seems cruel, but it is the only way that younger people will not be enslaved and younger generations will be able to be born. I'm childless and I'm happy to forgo social security and medicare i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 05:03 AM
1

Problem identified
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:54 AM
1

I think it has about 10% odds of being approximately true.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 04:04 AM
2

do you know it’s common practice to pull out kids teeth so their better at sucking dick and unable to hurt the clients? "Common"? I imagine human traffickers do all sorts of horrible things to their victims but... I just spent several minutes googling all manner of permutations of this and couldn't find a single article discussing this (alleged) practice; not a one. This might happen somewhere, but "common"? It does not appear to be the case. Don’t be naive Quoted for irony. The rejoinder here i…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 07:00 PM
3

What you’ve described is prostitution, and she knows exactly what’s she’s doing Could describe prostitution, yes. Or it could describe a woman who is in a non-client relationship with a man principally because of his wealth. Which, I'm sure you realize, is not that unusual.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:42 PM
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Before you go down the "she's only having sex with him for his money" route, please remember that's one woman being an idiot and not standing up for herself rather than a gender deliberately exploiting another.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 06:26 PM
1

Not my cup of tea but if they're both happy, more power to 'em. Definitely flies in the face of black pill philosophy. This guy's not supposed to exist.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 08:02 AM
3

Our current society is essentially the result of Godless, spineless soy. That's an odd position to hold. 81% of Americans believe in god. Globally, over 70% believe in god. Looks like this crap show is led by religious folks. Interestingly, Scandinavia has one of the lowest rates of magical thinkers - erm, god believers - and they seem to be doing pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:50 AM
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I'm a godless heathen that holds no respect for religious views whatsoever - Christian, Muslim, you name it. Religion is the biggest cope in the history of the world. But to each their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 07:00 AM
6

No one (outside of their groups) takes ISIS and the Taliban seriously because they're psychopaths who think it's their duty to kill and mutilate people who don't follow their unique brand of magical thinking. I'm not sure improving their messaging about hypergamy is their biggest issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:53 AM
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Because you can't read social cues does not mean the person is gaslighting and lying to you. If everyone told the complete 100% truth all the time, the world would end in about 10 minutes.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:43 AM
1

I'll wait for the movie. Sounds riveting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:30 AM
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Are you telling me you would not deduce that the women is implying that she WOULD date such man if he had a good personality and confidence? No, I would not deduce that. I would assume she doesn't want to overtly, publicly insult men who are ugly and balding by saying "no," when this should be patently obvious. Most people don't want to appear insensitive. Now, if someone asked me, "Would you date a woman who was unattractive and fat," I'd simply say no. But I'm insensitive and don't really care…
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:28 AM
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The world is just broken and it won't get better until we reel in womens sexual power through either culture/shaming or law. ISIS called. They want their handbook back.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 05:20 AM
-4

By stating that "I'm attracted to a guy with confidence and personality" when the topic is looks, it would imply that looks are not a prerequisite. I'm a guy. I don't find this confusing. If the looks threshold isn't met, confidence and personality don't mean squat. I would infer that from the statement without further explanation. I'm hopeful that men are not so obtuse that they need literally every single little detail spelled out for them.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 05:03 AM
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What does this matter? If she'd rather be single than with someone she's not attracted to, that's her prerogative. If she finds some doofus to provide for her, well it takes two to tango. She deserves nothing. But if she can acquire something she doesn't "deserve," well... there's a sucker born every minute. Again, life is unfair.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 04:52 AM
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Wanting it isn't entitlement. But feeling you deserve it is. Women, in fact, don't owe you anything. You'll get what the market for dating/relationships gives you (or what you take from it). If that's nothing, it's not women's fault. You can find this bizarre and aggravating but it's not going to get you anywhere nor engender much sympathy. Life is unfair.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 02:31 AM
5

That's why they want to degrade you so badly. They are afraid of men being fulfilled by solitude. BlackPiller: I think women are horrible (etc). Woman: I don't think of you at all. (Kudos to Don Draper) Few women want to degrade you or care about your fulfillment via solitude. They don't even know or care that you exist. And that's ok.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 01:38 AM
1

Attraction/sexual compatibility Positive outlook on life Sense of humour Not overly needy - wants space Some shared interests
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 01:33 AM
1

Then I'm confirming that particular observation.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:35 PM
0

I haven't dated a woman from the US for about 20 years. (I live in Mexico and Colombia.) So, this is an out-of-market sample size of one. I've had zero issues regarding height. My current girlfriend is 5'3", I'm 5'8". I've dated women as tall as 5'5" and as short as 5'. I think the fixation on height is mostly a developed world OLD thing, although women pretty much everywhere would prefer a taller guy to a shorter one, all else equal - which it never is.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 09:18 PM
-3

Reddit is a fun hobby... so long as it's only one of many. Edit: Ok, the downvotes are hysterical. You're on reddit. If you don't enjoy it... why are you here? Ha!
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:32 PM
1

Life is unfair. About 5 seconds of observing life makes that pretty clear. I don't know who's been promised anything in the dating/relationship market.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:20 PM
4

I tell people here regularly that being tall is no picnic. It's a massively over-rated advantage. Look at you: not very clever, shitty job... Being tall is only an advantage when all else is equal... and all else is rarely equal.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:40 AM
5

Why would I resent women for having preferences? I have them too. What's good for the goose...
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:29 AM
2

I think folks on all sides of these issues have a tendency to go overboard. Clearly you have no respect for robyoutube, which is completely understandable. But how can someone you don't respect humiliate you? I would just ignore him and others like him if I were you. But to each their own.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:50 PM
1

I guess I don't know how people allow themselves to be humiliated on reddit unless they bring it upon themselves. I've never felt humiliated in the least on reddit in almost 7 years here. Yes, folks get belligerent all the time - ha! - but I always just take the high road - civil, reasonable, no ad hominems, etc. (You can still be snarky, I mean, c'mon - ha!) Some folks will be reasonable even if they disagree with you if you're reasonable as well. And if they're unreasonable... well, who really…
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:15 PM
5

Non-looks factors only matter if you first pass the woman's threshold on looks. That threshold is well beneath Chad, but... these other factors will only compensate but so much. A 5 ain't turning into a 9 with wealth, charm, status, etc. More here: https://www.reddit.com/r/AllPillDebate/comments/17leupv/comment/k7e3frh/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 07:04 PM
2

I don't think it's the subject matter or the opinions that are the problem. It's the manner in which they're presented. Red or black pillers who discuss issues with nuance and civility wouldn't have any issues. But that's rare here.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 06:55 PM
1

I bet half of those with passports have only visited Mexico or Canada. I suspect less than 20% of Americans have been outside of North America.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 05:31 AM
2

It's where people go to express their true thoughts because people don't fear consequences as often behind a screen in the comfort of their home. Actually, I think this is part of the problem. I understand anonymity if you're a whistleblower, government dissident, in witness protection, etc; that is, a situation in which your physical safety could be compromised if you stated your opinion. But 99% of people here don't fall into any of those categories. Nope, a lot of folks want anonymity simply …
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 02:33 AM
2

I agree. Hell, some men look better bald (eg, Vin Diesel, Michael Jordan, Ving Rhames, etc) - it engenders a hint of menace (which is masculine). But these guys tend to be taller and darker. If you're bald and too white you look like a cancer patient.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:54 AM
3

Agreed, but most guys don't look good bald. Hence the multi-billion dollar industry built around hiding/preventing/reversing it.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 07:31 PM
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Even if Chad opens up too much, he will kill the image she has of him. Time will kill the image she has of him. The fantasy is not sustainable. Not opening up just prolongs the inevitable. Five years and two kids into a marriage, there is no functional difference between the "love" the average woman feels for the average man and the way Stacy feels about Chad. Time and (close) proximity are sexual attraction killers while, paradoxically, the sense of companionship may in fact increase.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:36 PM
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Masculinity is the male characteristic that heterosexual women are sexually attracted to most. Looks (height/face/build/hair/etc) is the most important component - the foundation - of masculinity because it's literally right in front of a woman's face - it's visible and conveys a lot of information in a fraction of a second. Other factors can increase a man's masculinity, such as power, wealth, status, confidence, charm, sense of humour, etc. These are sexually attractive traits but the informat…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:30 PM
0

Which is why I noted it was a spelling error as opposed to a non-existent word. I'd suggest you apply your (self-reported) high-IQ brain to learning punctuation and capitalization as these appear to be areas where you really struggle.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:47 AM
1

so you fvck the kind of women who like to post themselves fvcking? I fuck the kind of women who make money from videos of them fucking me. very low quality women They're very high quality in my eyes. And in the eyes of all the guys paying to see them. And these, as opposed to yours, are the only eyes that matter. But to each their own. Anyhow, you can't speak from any experience at all in this area can you? You're a virgin, after all.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:40 AM
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also i'm not the kind of loser who brags about his sexual history by showing random strangers the videos of women fucking him. YOU brought this issue up in the first place, Mr "Longing Eyes," not me. You're just upset that I'm perfectly willing to prove you wrong while you can't do the same for yourself. So if you're looking for a culprit in the loser department, just look in the mirror. I would never do such gross things to degrade and disrespect her because she must have trusted in you when sh…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:28 AM
1

brutally logicmogged and iqmogged and still parroting anonimosity Ha! "anonimosity"? A spelling error in the context of touting your IQ and logic skills is beyond hilarious. The proper word is "anonymity," genius. Brutal indeed.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:19 AM
1

​ either you are making a huge mistaken assumption about me(that i'm not attractive) or haven't actually experienced those. It's quite simple. I can prove your original assumption about me wrong with multiple videos which I'm happy to do. You cannot prove my assumption about you wrong because as you've already acknowledged, you're a coward and hide behind the anonymity of your keyboard. Feel free to prove me wrong about your fanfic, though. I'm more than happy to issue an apology.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:06 AM
3

Easier, yes. But easy, no.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 05:39 AM
1

He got prolonged eye contacts many times and thinks it's fanfic? Either the eye contacts were not 'sexually longing' like in a case where a girl sees an ugly guy out of pure curiosity or he had actually never got any of those or mistaken it for something. You want me to post some porn where my ex is looking longingly into my eyes while blowing me? Will that make you feel better? Easy to do. Just say the word.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:59 AM
1

Okay well you're in favor of unjustified brutality then. Unjustified... in your opinion. An opinion likely not even shared by the school officials that watch the video.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:49 AM
1

he decked her as hard as he could with a closed fist Incorrect. He slapped her really hard with his open hand. Jesus Christ, you really are almost blind. A female can't do the same, not even a female boxer, so your question is irrelevant. A female absolutely could do the same if she was large and the guy was average size. It's only "irrelevant" (to you) because it doesn't result in the answer you'd like. So, let's try this again with alterations that will compel you to answer the question: If th…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:46 AM
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Because they assume, correctly, that no matter how many men they tell, only a very small percentage will be able to implement their strategy. It's like saying, "Here's how you become a millionaire." No matter how much you explain it, most folks won't be able to do it. So, they're really not hurting themselves at all. I thought this was obvious.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:06 AM
0

And yet he's living rent free inside your head. Otherwise you wouldn't want to "slap the shit" out of him.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 02:00 AM
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