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Yeah, my mom was an immigrant who really didn't "get" western culture. She really messed me up in many ways. I had to leave the house and go to college before I started figuring things out. Basically taught myself. My father provided guidance on how to be successful career-wise, but his own career was very busy. Having said that, I don't see the large number of single mothers being a good thing for boys of future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:13 AM
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I think your response shows a reason. Mom must have had a temper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 05:10 AM
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Why do women act like they are responsible people then when they seem to defer all responsibility to men in this situation? Basically if a woman acts out of control, it is the responsibility of the man to fix things rather than the woman controlling herself. And if a man gets out of control? Still his responsibility. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:19 PM
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The stupider thing is to hit out of anger. Right... a woman who hits a man out of anger is the stupidest - we've established that. But is a woman, who knows she will lose a physical altercation, dumber than a man who knows he has a chance for instigating the fight?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:16 PM
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No shit sherlock. Obviously a woman who decides to hit a man just because she is angry is the stupidest person there. But the question is, given the common knowledge of the strength differences between men and women - are women who decide to pick fights with men stupider than men who pick fights with men? I would assume the obvious answer is yes, but given the amount of women who still do it and the lack of women who call out this stupidity, I'm not so sure...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 04:11 AM
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I guess I'd have to see that video for myself or similar videos. The video I had in my mind is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_o6NJj-RNY. I feel like you would claim that is excessive when he tried to push her away the first time and she still wanted to hit him. Eventually you have to make sure she can't or she'll keep trying to kick your balls.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 01:04 AM
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And you would hold women to the same standard? That they should always handle things well even if men are not acting appropriately? I think the point of contention of what is excessive violence. You are paying lip service to "restraining", but being very rigid with what is excessive. Have you ever been in a fight? Even if you are being attacked by a smaller person, your brain goes on high alert. It is difficult to calibrate everything, men aren't androids that can just say the force should be ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:58 AM
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lesbian that makes you more likely to be abusive I think the argument some women make is that abusers are more likely to be abusive if they have a partner they can more easily abuse. My logical extension of that argument is that women can more easily abuse women than men. But yes, good source - matches my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:39 AM
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So in your mind, in any physical altercation between men and women, it is always the responsibility of the man to handle things well and not the woman - even if she is the belligerent one. Isn't that convenient. More mature sex my ass...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:34 AM
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It is foolish, however, to pretend as though a woman and a man do equal damage to each other, or have the same strength on average. That is all. Who is saying that they do? The issue is how does it factor in. You said it is inexcusable. So then why bring that up unless you are angling that way? What point are you trying to make? That the sentencing should be harsher for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:27 AM
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I think stats suggest women are more likely to be assaulted by a partner than a stranger but best to treat all guns as loaded as the reds say. Ever look up lesbian domestic violence rates? Let's all just thank god women are weaker than men, cuz if not the world would be an even worse place than it is now.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:24 AM
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It seems that women know that they have more to fear from men in a fight. So would you agree that a woman who picks a fight with a man is dumber than a man who picks a fight with a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:22 AM
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boohoo People with actual sense know it is true though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:20 AM
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I said if anything, he'll get more women and the small guy will lose all respect among women. Women love bigger guys beating up smaller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:17 AM
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Even if they did that (which sounds pretty BS from my experience of hearing what girls have to say after fights), they'd still be sucking the big guys dick later while considering the smaller guy a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:16 AM
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If a guy beats down another dude half his size who’s clearly losing he gets raked across the coals. Such bullshit. If anything, he'll get more women and the small guy will lose all respect among women. Women love bigger guys beating up smaller men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:12 AM
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Isn't that convenient. Women are less capable so they should be held less accountable. Do you give the same leeway to men who are less capable at things than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:11 AM
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Women love saying the double standards that benefit women are justified while reeeeeing at even the smallest double standard that may benefit even a portion of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:06 AM
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Universally people see that as unfair and cruel Bullshit. Women are the first to denigrate the smaller man and praise the larger man. Only when women are put in the shoes of the smaller person do they have any sense of empathy. The hypocrisy is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/20 12:01 AM
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Yeah, says women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 11:55 PM
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Power is power. Sex is one way to gain power, but if another way to gain power is more successful it doesn't mean it is a worse way to gain power - might even be better.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:19 PM
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Then OP shouldn't question why they get a cunty response back. Asking about preferences isn't a cunty thing to do. You're acting like men act cunty first, but the order is men ask something reasonably, women act cunty, men are cunty back.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 06:14 PM
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How in the world does a male high school teacher have more status than a plumber? That's a feminine job...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:53 AM
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Honesty isn't the problem, that is liked and appreciated. It is the way many of you do it in such a cunty way. It would be like someone calling a homeless man looking for career advice a smelly, dirty, pathetic excuse of a human and then going "ohmigosh why are homeless ppl so angry when you try to give them advice?!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/20 12:49 AM
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In the West, women definitely have it easier. Ironically, it is because we are constantly told that women had it soooo hard. So society has to help women while also restricting men. Not enough women working highly paid jobs? Crap, better make sure that they get some help. Also, we gotta make sure we reduce the number of men who can do that because clearly that is a bad thing. Men are struggling? Let's point and laugh about them being weak men!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/20 07:13 PM
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...if men couldn't even find value in being attracted to women, things would have ended up much worse for women throughout history. There would be a population of smaller and weaker people who men wouldn't even try to please in order to have a chance to fuck them. Any competition for resources would end very badly for women. The only thing that could have saved women is if there was less gender dimorphism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 08:17 AM
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I can explain mine as well, but it is ridiculous that a man having a preferences means he should be derided or assumptions be made about him. Women are more likely to get/have STDs than men. Distaste towards sluts is cultural as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:57 AM
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No it doesn't. Would you say the same about a woman who just doesn't like short men? Some women here claim all the time that they just wish men would admit that they just don't like sluts without having to justify it, but as soon as they do this sort of ad hominem happens. I'm perfectly fine in bed, thank you very much. But I still don't like sluts. They're just gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:47 AM
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Sluts just gross me out. They just do. I don't need to justify it, all I know is my lizard brain doesn't like sluts. Now, I have fucked sluts before (never an escort in my life) - but only to relieve my physical horniness. I don't feel any sense of accomplishment or "glow" from fucking a slut. But I personally do like LTRs, so maybe the question isn't entirely relevant to me (also not TRP). If you can find a pleasant woman, it eakes out the positivity to overcome the drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:31 AM
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Because there's less of a chance of a woman fucking other men if you date her. Obviously women cheat a lot, but with an escort it is a certainty that she will be fucking other men. If I could pay a escort to only ever fuck me (and she didn't already come in with a high N), then of course it would be preferable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/20 07:10 AM
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I don't define dating as casual sex, first of all. I define dating as traditional dating. Both are easier for women to get than men, even if getting marriage is harder than getting casual sex for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 05:02 PM
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This always happens. He said "easier for women" so someone interprets that as "easy for women". No. Whatever, women don't have it "easy" - apparently only young/pretty women do. But women have it easier than men simply due to male thirst and social norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/20 04:01 PM
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Has anyone seen this video yet: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/e6ku4f/im_dating_4_guys_and_now_im_pregnant_british/. Lmfao, that's exactly what I expected 4 guys who share a girl to look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/19 05:48 AM
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Again, that's just because you ignored it. I have seen it multiple times, maybe search through one of those huge threads about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/19 04:53 AM
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We do. You just don't wanna hear it. A lot of women here only hear what they want to hear. Men "justify" aversion to sluts with other methods because women outright refuse to listen to the ick factor most of the time - sometimes it is like talking to a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 04:11 PM
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Lots of guys can admit it, because it is obvious. It is women who look for the "deeper meaning" behind everything. I've literally had women tell me my aversion to sluts is brainwashing by the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/19 05:35 AM
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Damn girl, calm down. You asked so I answered. Maybe they do it because they know it gets you worked up? Or maybe they do it because they're trying to screen for chill hoes. I don't actually know, I don't pay for whores. Maybe these CEO types are burnt out at work or something. But for the general list stuff yea. It's annoying to be asked a bunch of questions, especially all at once. Questions one at time seems more like a conversation rather than a bunch of questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/19 02:57 AM
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Maybe they can read they just don't feel a need to follow your instructions 🤔 As for the questions thing, when women send out a long list of questions like that it feels like she's giving you homework, with the potential for a second list if the first one is answered. Also if I personally see a long list of questions it makes me think "what's up with this girl? Is she even competent? How many things do I have to tell her?"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 08:21 PM
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Hmmm... Looks like both female and male faculty members (so pretty smart/experienced/inquisitive people) thought that female undergraduates would be less competent. Maybe they were onto something 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 07:55 PM
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If women can provide the same quality of work for cheaper than men, then wouldn't every employer want to replace men with women? But I thought the complaint was that not enough women were in certain fields (typically high performance fields) or women were being excluded somehow. Like Hispanic workers "took" jobs from Americans because they could do it for cheaper. So why can't women take these jobs from men? Is the argument sexism is more powerful than racism? Because my experience is that this …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/19 07:54 PM
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Also, eventually their relationships fall apart and it is always the man's fault - funny that. Guess that's all part of being happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/19 03:42 AM
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So basically you take it for granted. If women weren't so desires by men for sex, their position in the world would be even worse than what it currently is. Sex is oftentimes the only reason men even put up with women's shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:15 AM
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You're not responding to what he said. You have a near infinite supply of shitty food. But you never have to worry about starving to death. Sure, people better than you are probably getting more desirable meals than you. But you don't have to worry about starving to death like others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 02:12 AM
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I de-inceled a little more than a year ago. However, my income then was $65k. I make $90k now and am pretty certain would have made that if I never got my dick wet (prob would have been higher actually). Yes, I'm in my 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:24 AM
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Seriously, it's just another term like fuckboy that women use to self righteously hate on men. I remember a girl yelling at her bf once for cheating on her and using that as an insult. How tf does that even make sense? He can't be incel if he cheated...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:17 AM
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So go hate gay men? Seriously, all gay men seem to hate on is straight men. Also, conversely, by not dating women most gay men don't see the shit they put men through so have no sympathy for the people on the other side.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/19 04:11 AM
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Well then you're dumb because cops care more about a middle class woman getting hurt than some lower class trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:54 PM
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One of the main reasons you don't hit children is because they don't really understand the consequences of their actions. But I suppose that is true for a lot of women too... But yeah, this is just one of the many subjects where men have to treat women like they would children.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/19 07:52 PM
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A large portion of women, at least the women I know, who left work to become a SAHM liked it more than working. My mom was like that. I'm not some blue collar McDonald's worker either, high salaried professional. These days women want men to do chores, etc too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 09:00 PM
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More often than not they are leeches or on the dole, from what I have seen. Tax payers are subsidizing ethottery. I don't care if guys are working themselves to the bone to pay for their shitty thots, but once they start spending money on them and then need assistance from society that's when they become a problem. It's one reason I don't give certain demographics of homeless men any help - if you're homeless because you spent your money on women, you deserve to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/19 08:56 PM
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Are you sure these women are actually providing for themselves? More often than not I have found that these women are being supported by some man. My current gf is a prime example. From the outside looking in, it sounds like she has her life completely together (job, living alone, car, etc). But then I found out her job doesn't pay much and her apartment/utilities/car are being paid for by her dad... I've seen that happen numerous times, not just by the dad. A coworker is fully funding his gf (a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/19 02:07 PM
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Women would not, they would continue to try to make it - in a single gender Children of Men situation (assuming the men managed to destroy/remove the zombies by "protecting the women"). Women care far, far, far less about having the other gender in the world than men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 08:24 PM
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In a world without an organized structure put together by "good men", even an outnumbered group of "bad men" will win. They'll be able to do pretty much whatever they want. Even in our world, good men have a tough time getting bad men under control. Women wouldn't stand a chance in such a scenario, we see that happening in the world today - no need for a zombie apocalypse.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 08:15 PM
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They would last equally as long because men would either try to create something resembling civilization with women or keep them as sex slaves. Men would actively keep women alive. As soon as the last woman died, most men would just start killing themselves or lay down to rot - they wouldn't wait to die in old age. Individually, in general a man would last longer than a woman. The most likely scenario is the vast majority of women would find themselves in situations like this: https://www.youtub…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 08:05 PM
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It worked for me. I was a literal /r/foreveralone virgin, TRP got me laid and has kept getting me laid (and not with broken drug addict psychos like bitter women here would like to claim). TBP made me a foreveralone, TRP got me out of it. I would still be a foreveralone if I listened to TBP. I'm not married or looking to get married, so I can't speak to if marriedpill works. But marriage is a TBP system, so I would be fully willing to admit that it would fail.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:53 PM
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That's highly optimistic. Men have lost power and are rapidly losing more. We're in for a male dark age from what I can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:36 PM
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But there's de facto sharing or not sharing. Even if an average man wanted to, he couldn't live like the handsome man. Even if he could, he wouldn't be able to do it as much. Say you shared a handsome man with 12 other women, for the ugly guy it would be like 3 at the very best. For the ugly man, you might be the hottest girl he has - it is way more unlikely that you're the hottest girl for the handsome man with 11 other women. Taking into account STDs, fights, wealth sharing, etc. I still don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:34 PM
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Poster I responded to was specifically talking about handsome men to the exclusion of everyone else. To most women, even average men are ugly - short or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:19 PM
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Is she married too or...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:17 PM
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less dick to pussy $ transfer overall Not in America. They outnumber us, government will make it happen (even if individuals reduce the amount, the government will increase it). Men would have to go off grid en masse for this to be feasible.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:16 PM
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But all the other women have the same idea. Are you a woman that would rather share a handsome husband rather than have an average one for yourself? Some women are like that, some don't want to share. And if they can't get a handsome husband to commit to them, then they don't have many choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/19 07:07 PM
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Maybe in the olden days, not in the "you go girl" culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:45 AM
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Maybe it isn't that women aren't taught to be ambitious, but that men are taught to be because otherwise they are seen as failures. I mean even though the average for men might be higher for men because of the very top men, the variance is also greater. There are more homeless men and very poor men. Because men are taught it is do or die, and that they have to compete. And if they don't sufficiently compete then they are discarded. Women aren't pressured the same way. So I have a hard time sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:42 AM
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Frankly, I'm not surprised. Good luck out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/19 05:33 AM
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Shame em when they're alive, then shame them when they're dead to make an example of them to other thots
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:22 AM
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Very few average women pull it off without it being desperate men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:11 AM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 05:05 AM
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Why can't the woman support herself? Did the man just drop dead immediately after she popped one out? But you initially asked about consequences for men, now you're just switching subjects to desperately grab at whatever straws like if answer this next question. If the man died, then that's a tragedy and presumably his living relatives would help out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:47 AM
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Those are hardly the only reasons. Those are just reasons women want to be true so they can hate on men who don't like single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:36 AM
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A man can leave and still support his kid. If she chooses a man who can't or won't even do that, then she chose very poorly. That's on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:16 AM
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Women have their privileges due to being the sex that births babies. They can't just expect to have all upsides and no downsides. Let me know when men can choose to abort a baby they don't want. Women are supposed to be choosy which men impregnate them. If they fail there, that's on them. that is supposed to be the consequence for men, not being able to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:14 AM
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No, if she can get the man to support her and not leach off society fine. If she can't accomplish that, she's at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 04:05 AM
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Is it a secret that being a single mother is hard? They should have known that going in. There's a reason it is made hard, because having a lot of them is undesirable for many.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:55 AM
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If single mothers can provide for themselves and their kids, I'd agree. It's the societal leeches that should be shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:49 AM
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I am. I'd much rather thots kill their unborn babies than create more thot spawn that have to be provided for by the rest of society. I'd much rather the money go to environmental or animal causes. Having said that, apparently outlawing abortion doesn't drastically reduce the amount (some article I read recently that I'll have to find when I'm at a computer). All it does is make it more dangerous for those women. That I'm fine with too. If they're going to make those choices, I have no problem w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:48 AM
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The part above where not paying for women in an exclusive relationship somehow means you're gods gift to women, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:45 AM
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Your viewpoints, which are typically found in old, out of touch dudes who have been out of the young man's game for a while
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:28 AM
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Damn coming in hot
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 03:04 AM
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Calm down dude, you sound like an old dude who doesn't realize the world has changed. You really don't have to pay for women anymore to get places with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:43 AM
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Only a portion of women are hot enough to pull that off. Or they would have to rely on desperate man. I was a once /r/foreveralone type who got out of it, and even I don't have to put up with that shit for the women I date. They're not 10s or even 8s, but I have success with solid 7s.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:41 AM
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Nah, the bias is definitely tilted to one side.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:26 AM
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Any sub with active female participation becomes another "boo hoo poor women" sub eventually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/19 02:25 AM
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It is skewed to some races though. Which makes more sense to me. When I did my girl on Bumble experiment, I definitely saw what this study was talking about in some races using steroids more than others. But at the time I just thought it was my imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 06:35 PM
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I think it is because daughters have more of an innate want to stay close to their parents while sons are more likely to separate. So parents who have that fear about their sons overcompensate to try and win them over. Don't know if it works though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/19 03:52 PM
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The hottest girl I ever went out with paid for her part without even mentioning a check, things went well. The ugliest girl I ever went out with "forgot" her wallet and I had to pay. I knew I didn't even want a second date. I should have just said no and made her work out the situation with the bar herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 05:10 PM
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When did "dudebros" respond negatively to that. I just looked three of those articles up on Reddit and didn't see that sort of reaction. It makes sense for "dudebros" to be for it, especially if you are worried about false accusations of drugging drinks to get laid. "Oh yeah, I drugged you to bring you home? Why didn't your drink change color then, and if it did why did you still drink it?"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 04:32 PM
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Half the people against abortion are women...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:48 PM
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This same user is continually breaking the rules, if it were a man talking about women she'd have been banned already.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 07:47 PM
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This is more sensible. Men overestimate how physically good they are, women overestimate how emotionally good they are (believing themselves to be martyrs, more mature, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 01:47 AM
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But nobody can fix anyone and often the girl is getting straight up played. It depends on relative SMV. Are you arguing that no girls exist that can change anyone? Like if a high SMV woman tried to 'fix' a low to near high SMV male because she wanted someone easy to control - that is obviously possible and happens a lot. Is your topic only about low SMV women - who are probably the only ones who can't change anyone. Low SMV women have a harder time accomplishing this because men have less of a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 01:43 AM
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Sent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 10:59 PM
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Men are useless morons no matter what How is my comment more trolly than hers (aside from one hates on men)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 10:42 PM
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Women tend to be too stupid to accept reality. Trash women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 09:31 PM
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If you're "tired of trash men" and you turn to online dating, you are a retard and deserve to be mocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:27 PM
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Completely false. Look at /r/trufemcels and see how many threads you can find that don't go back to being "ignored" by the men they want. They complain all the time that men only care about looks and only pay attention to hot women. If anything, your criticism is more relevant to them because femcels believe men only care about attractiveness while incels know that women care about looks, status, money, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 06:13 AM
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Elderly widows are lonely because more men die younger. Best way to solve it is to care more about male health so their bodies aren't breaking down in old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/18 08:22 PM
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But lesbians divorce more often than gay men (I think it is like twice the rate, cross culturally). I think there is something about women that makes them less satisfied with long relationships in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/18 02:36 AM
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This, I'm very suspicious, all we have is what /u/Circlesquare1 is presenting - possibly with some omissions. And she's only able to present what the woman is presenting - possible with her own omissions. Women are notorious for conveniently leaving out pertinent information, "trickle truth". Wives of military men are also known for being notorious cheaters, couple that with a woman who was a "virgin" before him (or at least claimed to be?) That is a recipe for cheating on a husband who is away …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 08:07 AM
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It will be the slightest bit worse in the West, if at all. It will be better for white males in Asia as those countries get more developed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 06:10 AM
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Wut? You know they get PMs and such right? It isn't truly anonymous because every post is linked to a username. Lots of gonewilders talk about how they post pictures and then get PMs where they sell stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:59 PM
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99% of women who post in GW don't get money or ever expect to. How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:44 PM
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Debase? Unworthy? I'm tired of women being shamed for benefiting from sexuality. If you don't care, why do you care what others think? There's this weird guy who lays in urinals. Most people would consider that debasing themselves. I doubt he cares about what others think of his sexuality. Really?! :D That's good. Knock yourself out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:17 AM
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debase oneself by doing something for unworthy motives, typically to make money. They use the pictures to eventually get money or gifts. It isn't like 1 picture = 1 dollar, but put enough pictures up and you'll eventually get some guy to give you money. It is similar to "shareware" in computing - it is freely available at first, but the money comes in later.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 06:09 AM
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The prejudice shared is the overall prejudice shared by POC in general. A far larger cause of the issues in the African American community are actual systemic discrimination rooted in slavery. That is why when you look at black students at Ivy League colleges they have an overrepresentation of those of African immigrant ancestry (like Obama). That is why there is a stark difference between African American communities and African immigrant communities in education, employment, family structure, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:36 AM
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Beta bucks probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 02:25 AM
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His mother's family is white. That is not a terrible thing to admit. Now who's trying to have someone's "identity ignored/erased [all the time]"? Yes, there is a chance that there is some African ancestry (just like many African Americans have some white ancestry), but by and large it is mostly white ancestry on his mother's side. Look, you're still projecting and I think you genuinely don't mean to. You brought up the whole issue while having a massive blindspot of not even being able to accura…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:57 AM
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no this does not make him genetically closer to white people than African Americans on the whole. Please. Learn to science better Learn how to read better, or just not attack strawmen because what I actually said was: president isn't the descendant of slaves, and is probably more closely related to American slave owners than an American slave Which is probable considering his father is from Kenya and his mother is a white American. So it is much more likely that, through his mother, he has a clo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 01:36 AM
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Look at /r/gonewild. You can't stop women from whoring for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:43 PM
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What is this, did you have a seizure? Why are you quoting "nb" (what is that?) and "facticity" like someone else said them? And yeah, it is important to note that. You were the one who brought that up. The problems in the black community in America is directly related to America's history of slavery. And why "prob not" when Obama's family history is a fact? What racial hierarchy am I trying to enforce? Annnnd as a multiracial person who is neither black or white, fuck you for projecting your own…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:46 PM
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If black people were once slaves, a black man would never have been able to become president of the US. It is important to note that the president isn't the descendant of slaves, and is probably more closely related to American slave owners than an American slave, like all the other American presidents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:18 AM
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I also think it is because it is focused on telling men how to act instead of doing what it falsely claims to do, which is fighting for men to freely express themselves. They want to control the end result, which of course won't be well received.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:16 AM
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It isn't just them though, Hispanics and native Americans too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:24 PM
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Was the person I originally responded to even white? I thought she wasn't? Why reduce it to just them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 10:18 PM
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You only took the first part of what I described and then said "you're not describing them well".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:48 PM
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Oh, I guess the women I described aren't high value then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:33 PM
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Ask the 'single strong women who don't need no man', they seem to have it figured out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 09:05 PM
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I agree, women should not be encouraged to marry. They'll eventually cause a divorce or unhappy marriage and screw over the husband. If anything, women should be discouraged from marrying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/16 08:53 PM
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Cuckolds do, if you consider them men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 08:59 PM
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If they can't gain financial independence and get their life sorted then they get their comeuppance. If they can, then they are Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:03 AM
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being against people having to pay for 2 seats on airplanes Why is this wrong? Have you sat next to very fat people on an airplane before? They are inconveniencing others - their freedoms end where another person's begins.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/16 04:02 AM
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In a general sense, due to the work of men who wanted to ensure the survival of their of progeny as well. But to individual women, the task of childbirth was often an unsuccessful endeavor. Childbirth leaves women different from how they were before, often for the worse. That is what I'm referring to. I don't know if overall you can call childbirth a success for women, because apparently a large reason for the lower position of women throughout history was their position as the ones who got preg…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 09:01 PM
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Hasnt childbirth historically been dangerous and have a rather high mortality rate? Doesn't sound too successful to me. I mean it was successful for the men who could get a kid, but seemed to be a bad thing for a lot of women involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/16 07:03 PM
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To answer your question, yes - betas are responsible for the pussy pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 05:34 AM
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Men actually have holes, women don't have dicks. If anything, it is the opposite of what you just said. Now I don't know if a straight man would be referred to as a hole, but a gay man might.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 01:56 AM
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I wouldn't say it is any more unhealthy than being blindly blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 05:00 AM
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There is a sweet spot, you need men to be a little feminine but not too feminine. 100% masculine is probably worse than 100% feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 03:36 AM
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That's changing the goal posts. People know the "perfect dimensions" are hard to achieve, but thin isn't hard to achieve. And LOL if you think women don't complain. Just LOL. It doesn't matter whether a trait can be changed or not Why not? It does seem crazy to demand things that can't be changed and only apply to the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 09:03 PM
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6 foot tall men are relatively rare and not something a man can achieve, it is only a small proportion of men. Most women can be thin, and thin women aren't as rare as tall men. Demanding one isn't the same as demanding the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:55 AM
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How is it not genuine? Genuine means it is truly what it is said to be. A sex robot will truly love you because it is programmed to do so. There is no pretending going on there. A prostitute pretends.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:27 AM
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Prostitutes, I guess. Who will be seen as the cheaper alternative, hopefully sex robots force their prices down. For guys who can't afford prostitutes, they're screwed. Because even if the robot is programmed to do so, it actually is in love. A prostitute pretends, she can't force herself to love you. A sex robot will be programmed to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:26 AM
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I have no idea how much it would cost, but a few thousand sounds reasonable. Yeah, what's the difference? If they would be genuinely into you, regardless of whether you programmed to be or not, they are still into you. Prostitutes only pretend to be into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 08:29 AM
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I'm sure you're the first woman to think of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:01 AM
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I think VR or chemicals that give the same responses to the brain to trick it into thinking it is experiencing sex will be the future, with sex robots being the "cheap" alternative - or maybe the chemicals will be "cheap" one. For sure VR will cost the most. So I think there will be tiers. I think the middle class guy would be able to afford the chemicals or sex robots, and maybe limited VR. Put new skins on the bot I guess? Again, I think this is why VR or chemicals would be the better option. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:00 AM
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Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:53 AM
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I never said it "dooms you to a bad life". I'm saying the majority of terpers aren't contributing anything to the world and are in fact making people's lives worse. Nah, that's what you said. Yep save save save, don't experience new things, don't broaden your horizons, just put away all your money and live miserably then die when you're 50. But anyway, that makes them like anybody else. You seem to be upset by their sexist attitudes more than anything else. It probably isn't their sexist attitud…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:49 AM
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Prove that being sexist means you are doomed to a bad life when most of history has shown the opposite to be true. Some of the world's greatest men have been sexist. The majority of the most successful people in human history have been men, probably with attitudes that would be considered sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:42 AM
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Well then, work backwards. Have successful men, men who contributed to society, men who have lived full/interesting lives, and men who invented things in the past had sexist and misogynist attitudes? The answer is obviously yes. It would be ridiculous to assume just because they are sexist that they wouldn't be successful when society has been built by sexist men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:35 AM
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Even still, I think your initial premise is flawed, because after reading Milo's article it doesn't seem to be saying what you claimed it was saying when you linked to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:32 AM
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I highly doubt those are the only kinds of men who remove themselves from the gene pool. Men like Nikola Tesla also took themselves out of the gene pool and would probably be a man who would rather have a sex robot than a real woman. Could he really be called a man who has "nothing to offer"? Although men like Wilt Chamberlain fucked many women, they never had or wanted any children and effectively took themselves out of the gene pool. It isn't as simple as your are trying to make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:31 AM
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Then maybe this CMV should be "should they be afraid" vs "are they afraid", because we have no reliable evidence suggesting whether they are or not, so that debate is largely futile. But a debate regarding whether a large plurality would have more negative consequences than positive could be properly debated. Even Milo's article is "Sexbots: Why Women Should Panic", the argument is about whether women should be afraid rather than whether they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:22 AM
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That is a biased response group though. They are largely educated, young, and well to do people. The lower 51% of women are struggling and would therefore have more reason to fear it. I would think older women would also have more reason, because a young woman is more desirable than an older woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:07 AM
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Sex workers would be threatened by sex robots. But this CMV is too vague, because of course 100% of women won't feel a certain way. But would your mind be changed if 51% of women would feel threatened? I believe that could be plausible because the lower 51% could be threatened by loss of men willing to provide for them in exchange for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 05:55 AM
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They wish for their extermination in them quietly dying out in misery and having never reproduced, yes. But not in the "let's go out and kill all of them" way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 05:18 AM
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I think that was the point. That she couldn't tell it was the devil. She succumbed to the temptation of the serpent, which is less understandable than a husband being tempted by his wife (since he trusts her). So in a way, she acts as the devil for Adam.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:59 AM
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Adam trusted Eve, Eve trusted the devil. The implication is that Adam would not have trusted the devil.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:48 AM
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Two things, that is exactly what it is. You ask them to give you money and they do. How is that not easy enough for you. It has nothing to do with being a cam model. Secondly, you asked for a way for old men to just give you money without having sex with them and now you are moving the goal posts. You are just being contrarian now. What would convince you that it is that easy for women? I mean, here is a case of women literally getting free money from men because the men want to be used for thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 01:27 AM
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Log out of your account and click the link, it works fine for me. But the other sites explain it. Of course it is sexual for the men, but it has nothing to do with actually having sex with them. Their "fetish" is being used for their money without sex. http://thedrsuereview.com/what-is-financial-domination/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:50 AM
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Not solely on her age, if she showed maturity and an actual desire to change her view I would respect that. Even so, I have argued in good faith throughout this sub. You are way too hung up on the straw man of me "dismissing" her view. Which I have not done. I have considered her points and made responses. If I dismissed her views, I would not have made thoughtful responses to her points.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:48 AM
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She has her own experiences, not an aggregate. When looking at the aggregate, her argument falls apart. She's a kid, so she probably isn't too good at looking at things from others' perspectives. An angsty teenage girl thinking she has it the worst? Yeah, who has ever heard of that happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:45 AM
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I just clicked the link, try it again. /r/findom But the sidebar also had http://findoms.com/ and http://moneyslaves.com/.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:43 AM
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That's a cop out. So I could have any view I want, and if an alternate view is presented, I can just so "uh uh, not good enough" without giving a reason for why it won't change my view. That isn't a CMV post, that is a "I already have a view that I want you to listen to while I pretend I'll listen to alternatives". Also, I don't think you understand what "burden of proof" is. I have given reasoning behind my assertions. And it isn't just me. Look at all of her responses. She is not arguing in go…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:39 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/findom/ It is as easy as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:37 AM
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If you look through my other posts on this thread you will see what you just accused me of is completely false. I made very reasonable points, but the OP has no interest in debating at all. Look at her posts, this is a true shit post. I gave my reasons for why women have it easier in response to her points, but the OP had no response of her own and instead of making a counterargument or changing her view, she just continued to shitpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 06:28 AM
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This is a fucking CMV post. In a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:39 AM
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I'm not dismissing her posts, I asked her questions and made an argument. Again, just because she says it doesn't make it true - I would expect her to make a compelling [counter]argument, which I don't see.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 04:50 AM
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It is not clear that she does not have it easier, it is clear that she may think she has it harder - not that it is actually the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 04:38 AM
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Is she also Hispanic though? I have found latina women tend to be less 'heightist'. Asian women seem to be polarized, either they are really heightist (like more so than other girls), or they aren't at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 09:46 PM
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The fact that a female incel can literally do nothing and still receive support like this instead of pure vitriol proves female incels have it better than male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:27 AM
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But you haven't even tried, making you not incel. Also, online standards are a lot lower than real life standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:06 AM
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You don't put a post up, there's already 1000s of men who posted their pictures. You choose which men to respond to, because you're a woman and have it easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 03:03 AM
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You're not comparing yourself to most girls, you're comparing yourself to male incels. And they try way harder than you. If you did approach you'd have more success than male incels. Sounds like case closed, female incels have it better than male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 02:59 AM
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Get on Craigslist or those redditors-for-redditors subreddits and you just solved your problem. That doesn't work for male incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 02:52 AM
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Well that's a non sequitur. I didn't ask why that happened, and the explanation still doesn't explain how it is a personal problem with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/16 12:04 AM
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How is that a personal problem? He's just describing what happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/16 07:33 PM
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Okay, but being fat doesn't impede your ability to fix a computer. Being skinny impedes your ability to lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 08:20 PM
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That's cute. But no.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 07:34 PM
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Not every fat guy is built fat, a non built fat guy would still be a better choice than a skinny or skinny fat guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 07:20 PM
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Do you live in California? I can tell you for sure it is the opposite in the south.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 04:34 PM
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Yea, I didn't say no use whatsoever. Obviously fat fetishists would disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 04:32 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 04:20 PM
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Yet that is not what happens. When it comes to manual labor fatties beat skinny guys every time. Actually take a look a manual laborers sometime. You think a skinny guys won't sweat and wheeze from the effort, if he can even manage that is. In comparison, there is almost no advantage of a fat woman to a skinny woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 03:26 PM
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Fat guys are still useful though. If I need a couple of guys to lift something or do manual labor I'd pick fat guys rather than some skinny no lifter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 03:09 PM
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Or maybe you can't make a coherent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 12:06 AM
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Even if a woman has her own money, she would rather spend his. See this doesn't make any sense. Why? It isn't like she isn't giving anything up in doing so. Why put that work in when she doesn't have to? I could see it happening after she blew through all her money. They have children with the older men, that is children they could have had with hot guys using their own money. Eh. I'm sure there's a person out there who gets Melania's juices going. I just doubt it's Trump. If there is, I don't t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:57 PM
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What don't I understand? Jerry Hall was married to Jagger not McCartney. And he cheated. What point are you trying to make? That they just want more and more money? Their end goal clearly isn't simply living a fancy life, because they could have done that without marrying an older man. These are models. How many of these stories of divorcees from rich men go on to the life you describe of great sex with young men? It seems like more often than not it just continues to follow the same pattern of …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:45 PM
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But she was a rich model before Trump, she didn't have to resort to it like some nobody would have to. And if most women truly are like that, then if you have the options it only makes sense to just go after the most attractive women. Because with any of the other women you simply get an inferior version of the same model.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:32 PM
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That may or may not be true. There are lots of everyday couples I meet where I don't believe the husband/wife lusts for his/her partner. And they aren't even close to rich. In comparison to that, I'd say Trump is doing better in his marriage. I don't think the lack of lust is tied to money, and I have a hard time believing Melania actually ever would be in a marriage where she lusts for her partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:23 PM
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Rupert Murdoch had a nasty end because he leads a nasty life. He married a nasty woman because he himself is a nasty person. I don't actually believe in karma, but what he got is reflective of the kind of life he has. I think "good guys" who marry young women as old men don't tend to have those nasty situations, because they don't go for disgusting women like Wendi Deng. I think role models to have, in terms of this specific discussion, would be people like Sir Patrick Stewart, Jeff Goldblum, Ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:14 PM
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They can, but probabilities go up with alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 06:37 AM
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5 guys. With the five guys, yes her n-count is higher, but I would be more concerned about her cheating with an ex. Chad would just phone her up whenever they were in the same town "just to catch up".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 05:20 AM
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You've never met a woman with low self esteem who has sex for validation and later feels used? I didn't they were that uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:58 PM
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Sure, in that sense they are equivalent. But women and men don't face the same challenges in getting sex. A woman can literally walk into a bar and have a lot of offers, her potential partners won't be selective. Women are the selective ones. The man we are talking about would have already passed the "selection test" by the women, while a woman really wouldn't have to be selected for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:58 PM
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Other interesting parts of the article: "Sexism is linked to authoritarianism and a leaning towards social dominance," Garaigordobil said in a statement. "In other words, sexist people accept hierarchies and social inequality, they believe that different social groups have a status that they deserve, and they feel that the social class to which they belong is the best." Racism and sexism can be overt or more subtle, with studies finding that no matter how egalitarian, people generally hold some …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:09 PM
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Do sluts complain about being worthless? I thought when they did complain, it was about having negative value - like literally being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:21 PM
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Cool, but I think we'd both agree that they're in the minority?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:10 PM
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Have you personally met many of those men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:33 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_asexuality Forever alone means zero, or near zero with flukes. So I don't know if there is a cutoff. So even a guy getting laid once per month isn't a forever alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:37 AM
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You want a man that lots of women want, but one that doesn't want lots of women? You think a man with a lot of options will not want those options?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:33 AM
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I think you can be a functioning, respectable member of society without getting laid at least twice a week. Being a forever alone male? I personally do not think so unless they are asexual or on the gray scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 06:10 AM
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Does the average male get laid at least twice a week on a consistent basis? Nah. But I don't think it is top 20% of men get 80% of the women I think it is top 20% of men get 80% of the sex [that men get].
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:59 AM
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Basically prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:17 PM
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Nah, it would make sense when compared to pretty much every other lifeform on Earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 05:09 PM
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But that's for almost every crime. Best way to not get mugged is the same thing. But tips on not getting robbed don't get nearly the same amount of a knee jerk defensive reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:35 PM
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I can tell you the sugar babies that are women make more than the sugar babies who are men for other men. That's close enough, no? Also you can look up the lucrativeness of being a female pornstar to being a gay male pornstar. That all falls under sex work, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 01:26 PM
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Okay, pretend to be a male prostitute and a female prostitute on Craigslist and see which one is more lucrative and easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:59 PM
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No personal experience, but you don't need personal experience to know the difference between male and female prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:44 PM
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That's why they cheat and then take all the money in the divorce. It is that easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:39 AM
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Gay males make up like 10% of the male population, heterosexual males make up 90% of the population. You are lying to yourself if you think being a male prostitute is as easy as being a female prostitute. Not to mention men having to change their entire sexual orientation, while women don't. In a reverse situation, would you tell a gay male to change his sexual orientation and become a prostitute for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:38 AM
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You are vastly overestimating the lucrativeness and availability of going gay for pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:37 AM
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The demand isn't as great. Gay males make up, what 10% of the male population? That means women have access to 90% of the men. Then you'd have to go out and find the gay men who are willing to pay for it. They aren't even on the same plane of what is practical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:35 AM
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Exactly, this post is so odd to me. The mainstream narrative is that men have it so much easier than women. She just seems to be upset people have the opposite opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:33 AM
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Bragging about fucking something you consider trash is male hamster overload. I think this is a dominance versus submissiveness thing. I would be much more perturbed by being penetrated by what I considered trash, but penetrating trash wouldn't make me feel bad. That's the reasoning behind "prison guys making guys their bitch" too, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 01:08 AM
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And they feel the same, everyone does. Just because they have been relatively more successful, not to the extent of the West of course, shouldn't be a point against them though. But yeah, I'm also all for integration. Muslims do seem capable of it though, at least here in America they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 10:00 AM
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you very really hear of hindu / sikh terror attacks compared to pakistani muslim ones. Sure, but I see them as being more "domesticated". Their history is mostly of shame of being continuously conquered. Of course, that is good from your viewpoint, but maybe not so from their own. I won't argue that Islam doesn't encourage self-defense and resistance. If you compare the countries that got colonized, I think you'll see the non-Muslim ones got hit harder than the Muslim ones - this is especially e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 09:51 AM
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The richest muslim country (not including Germany) is indonesia, which realistically is a lot more modern than most islam countries, but still pretty bad. That's by nominal GDP. A better way to look at it would be by GDP per capita, in which case some of the richest countries are the Arab ones. Then a lot more Muslim countries start looking successful, like Brunei, Malaysia, Kazakhstan, etc. You can also look by PPP, and you start seeing more Muslim countries like Iran, Egypt, Pakistan, etc. Qui…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 09:41 AM
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I don't disagree that Democrats want to become more like Europe, they do point to it as a model in terms of social benefits, education, civil rights, etc. But I think the US handles immigration and integration better. I have no reason to believe the US wants to become like Europe in those terms (referring to ethnic issues) because we do it better, even under the auspices of the Democrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 09:34 AM
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No, I understand that and the reasons behind it. Muslims will be a larger percentage of those things because their population is large, second only to Christianity. A larger percentage of Muslims will also have those issues than Christians because a larger percentage of Christians live in the West. However, I do not think that there is much of a difference between poor and backwards Christians and Muslims.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 09:31 AM
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I'm of the opinion Islam can be reformed to meet the modern world. Fact of the matter is Muslims are not going away. Some Muslim countries are among the richest countries now, and some will be in the future. You're just going to have to learn to deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 08:08 AM
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Also because Muslim Americans actually are part of the left politically. Muslims vote Democrat, so no point in alienating part of their own constituency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 07:55 AM
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HOWEVER, you don't see Christians marrying their daughters off pre-puberty, or stoning women to death Actually, you do in Africa and some parts of South America. It is more of a cultural thing than a religious thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/16 07:53 AM
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I think they are speaking from a place of jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 02:54 PM
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That hasn't been my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:56 AM
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I just said we do complain about that. You can complain about multiple things at once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:17 AM
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A lot of men don't even know the first steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:10 AM
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Lol, you are on here now asking them to explain themselves. If they repulsed you, you would leave them forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:07 AM
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And people complain about that too. So why not complain about this as well? Single fathers are less likely to be on welfare though, right? And the fathers corresponding to the single mothers also are not thought of on good terms, especially if they are druggies or in prison or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 01:06 AM
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If they get pregnant and rely on welfare, or the cost of birth control, then society pays for their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:48 AM
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Many cheaters cheat with their exes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/16 12:46 AM
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Willful ignorance perhaps? They suspect it but try to look for outs. Once it has been verified, he can no longer be ignorant of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:24 AM
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Sperm is never wasted, we can make it continuously. Eggs can be wasted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:30 PM
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Or they could all deny it was theirs, which is what happens many times in the African American community when talking about paternity. Deny, until a paternity test. Then the kids end up with no fathers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/16 10:23 PM
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Traditionally it means rule by fathers. Feminists distorted it into a schizophrenic conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:18 PM
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That person is also starving. And the first person is complaining about not having food she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 05:09 PM
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So the women in this analogy are the spoiled teenage daughters in those shows who complain about the gift car being the wrong color.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:46 PM
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When you have a lot of sour grapes, lots of things taste bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 04:17 PM
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That's not the unbelievable part. It's foolhardy belief in trolls. In my opinion, this is a hallmark of /r/TBP. They fall for trolls way too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 10:19 PM
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You are very gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 10:15 PM
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What makes you think that? The less than day old account made specifically for this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:28 PM
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Look at the top responses to this thread, I think this is a troll attempt to show how stupid the "female incels" line of thought is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:14 PM
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Look at the top responses to this thread, I think this is a troll attempt to show how stupid the "female incels" line of thought is. Especially since it is a brand new account made specifically for this question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 09:14 PM
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Unless you're a college athlete, related to a celebrity, or trust fund kid, then it all flips.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:20 AM
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Some people write shitty fanfiction, some people write this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:27 PM
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I'm glad you said outside of his culture/race instead of just white women. I realize that being white is a status symbol for most of the world, and that makes non-white guys desire them. But I personally prefer ethnic women, like my man Kevin G. As for advice, lift is the most important one. If you're Indian, CHANGE YOUR DIET. I personally cannot stand Indian food after having it forced into me my whole childhood. But yes, that Indian smell stereotype is due to the food. Learn to cook better foo…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:17 PM
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Depending on your specialty, most doctors are not on their feet all day. When you look at the specialties where women are a higher percentage, they are definitely not the ones you are imagining. Being a doctor requires an uncomfortable amount of sitting.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 10:05 PM
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But it's literally a fact that asian people have smaller penises That is not a fact, and is literally an example of racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:43 AM
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I don't think trp's point is that men don't have emotions, but that women are relatively over emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 04:09 PM
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Tea Leoni
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:09 AM
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Did you girls know he is only 5'6''-5'7''? Being a short German/Scandinavian man must suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 06:07 AM
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That's because the counterpart to "No Fat Chicks" is "No short guys" - which certainly exists. Women are much more harsh towards short guys than men are to fat chicks. You're the one full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/15 08:10 AM
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BP will almost always find a way to excuse the woman. I think both RP and BP both understand that men can abuse women. And although BP gives a nominal view that women can abuse men too, whenever I see a situation like that, BP will always try to figure out "why the woman acted like that" and that surely "she must have been abused too". Which is very close to victim blaming. The two options seem to be either the husband is the only one in the wrong, or both the husband and wife are in the wrong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 01:26 AM
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So in order to control life, they had to control women I thought about it like this, but in the opposite way. "Controlling life" is controlling your progeny. Men are able to have more children than women. A woman can give birth to one child at a time, constrained by time and her body. A man can have multiple kids by different women at the same time for a long time. Not every man can achieve this, but the people who actually can do this were overwhelmingly men. So the people that had the allegian…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 04:41 PM
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Because said resentful man could just as easily have a male [homosexual] partner as the women has a heterosexual partner. We know men are easy. But women pretend they're not and that they are above it, they get offended if it even gets insinuated they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 04:00 PM
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LOL, yeah try it. I'm sure he'll be sooo offended. "I bet you fuck so many girls, you loser!". This is why the counterpart to female slut shaming is male virgin shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:59 PM
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Yeah, that's why I didn't make the comparison between Abrahamic and Dharmic religions, but certain religions. Maybe I should have said 'Dharmic religions aside from Sikhism and Buddhism' to be more clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 03:48 PM
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These ideas aren't new though. People should already know about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 10:03 PM
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That depends on what you consider to be personality. If she was a feminist, I'm thinking a TRPer would say no because it seems like a trap for a future rape accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 10:18 PM
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So where does that leave men who are exclusively heterosexual? The fact that they won't compromise but that a woman will makes my point. She will have sex with men she doesn't want to (keep in mind we're talking about a prostitute who doesn't want to have sex with the man, who should be disgusted according to your view), but he will not. The men who will are bisexual (however far along the continuum they get). That just told you why the disgust for men (by 0% bisexual men) trumps that of women (…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 10:15 PM
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I believe that happened after you sassed multiple times, I tried to keep things respectful. Yes I find your inability to think for yourself and rely solely on the "scientific position" anti intellectual. It's not solely science, I have my own opinions which I disclaimed by saying they were my opinions. But my positions are backed up by science - which is the intellectual position. Don't you see the irony in what you're saying? You're saying the intellectual position shouldn't rely on the scienti…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:37 PM
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So you're saying even you expect some natural lubrication in the beginning of the session? What? And vaginal tearing happens when I'm not aroused and thus dry and likely not feeling attracted to my partner... period That can happen with people you are attracted to as well. There is a reason lube exists. That was the original conversation, you're just changing things up now, and I clarified that initial statement (which you left out) by saying it was in a prolonged session. But yes, due to stress…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:35 PM
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You're projecting your own experience if disgust onto women by assuming that what they feel for ugly men can only be on a par to what you feel for ugly women. Because that is symmetrical. We both know what ugly means. We both know what fear means. So we can both know what it means to dislike ugly people, but this CMV is crisscrossing them by saying that same feeling is equal to another gender's view on orientation. It's apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:31 PM
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Sexual orientation is going to be mutable for some and not for others, and only within set parameters for each person. Okay, I guess I'll believe the American Psychological Association over you, but we're entitled to our opinions: According to the American Psychological Association and the Royal College of Psychiatrists' Gay and Lesbian Mental Health Special Interest Group, there is no sound scientific evidence that sexual orientation can be changed So those "pray the gay away camps" work for so…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 12:09 AM
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He needs a doctor's opinion. Honestly, if not being able to fuck his SO isn't motivating him enough to fix his problem I'd bet on depression or ridiculous amounts of stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 11:22 PM
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I already told you, I believe that it's a mixture of biology and environment. Okay, so can they turn straight? Are those "pray your gay away camps" on to something? Do they just not have the right model or what? All I'm getting from this is that you think homosexuality is a choice. Correct me if I've mischaracterized your position, because I thought it was the consensus among rational people that people are born gay. But there are guys attracted to feminine features on men - so while its true fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 11:00 PM
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According to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:55 PM
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According to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:54 PM
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Really, you think the view that you can't choose your orientation to be anti intellectual position when that is the scientific position? But I love how you resort to sass when your point doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:50 PM
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That could be said for both skilled or unskilled jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:49 PM
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Thank god, I hope all feminists adopt this view.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:46 PM
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Not if you're having sex for a long time, there is only so much natural juices a woman can produce. I didn't say it happens every time, just that it can. When it comes to maxing out your mattress sessions, wetter is usually better. Since your natural wetness can decrease at times due to a variety of things (for instance, stress, medication and birth-control pills), adding lube helps ease penetration so sex is pleasurable and not painful You can be having sex with a man you like, but you're stres…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:45 PM
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I think my view of sexuality is the mainstream view - that you're orientation isn't something you choose or something you can change. Any disagreement there? It is the scientific view, not the mystical one. If anything, yours is the hippy BS "free love mannnn" thing. Oh, here's the part where you say: I'm talking about how they feel about it. NEWSFLASH: a man will always feel bad about having sex with a man, so much that so he won't compromise it just for money. Even if a woman feels bad about s…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:42 PM
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Maybe it's due to your talent, and you just blame it on your vagina. Your poor vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:32 PM
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Women are wonderful effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:30 PM
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And vaginal tearing happens when I'm not aroused and thus dry and likely not feeling attracted to my partner... period That can happen with people you are attracted to as well. There is a reason lube exists. Sex workers seem to manage fine. I think sex workers have more sex with people they find unattractive than non-sex workers have with people they do find attractive any given month.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:29 PM
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LOL at no Viagra - poor guy needs to admit to himself he has issues. Tell him to get his test checked, lift, improve nutrition, and try nofap for a while - maybe he's just jerking it too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:22 PM
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O c'mon, now you're just being obtuse. How could it not be about bisexuality? If they are engaging in a sex act with another man, it clearly has to do with bisexuality. When you ask a straight man to have sex with another man, what is his response? "I don't have sex with men" or "how much"? Which do you think matters more to him? You think men will compromise more on the gender of the person they have sex with than women will with the attractiveness of man she sleeps with? If you ask a prostitut…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 10:05 PM
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This is my question: Do you believe gay men can become straight? Are they born gay? Those traits include but are not limited to female sexual characteristics. But masculine women exist and feminine men exist. Are you more attracted to masculine men than feminine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:42 PM
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It should, it doesn't due to cognitive dissonance. What would make you change your mind, are you arguing in good faith? Not all prostitutes are rich though, and they don't all make good money. So it isn't the money issue keeping men out. Those men who oblige, were they born bisexual or did they change to become bisexual? Can anyone just become bisexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 09:40 PM
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I didn't say he did. He was talking about comparing straight men and straight women by using his experience as a gay man. That doesn't work because a straight man isn't gay, so a gay perspective does.t explain us. A gay man is less repulsed by gay sex, even if he foudn the partner to be ugly. He agrees with you because straight women and gay men already sleep with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:17 PM
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Standards can change. Orientation doesnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 08:07 PM
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He's a gay man though, the cmv is about straight men. Of course straight men would be more repulsed by having sex with a man than a gay man would, because the very concept of being gay is upsetting to straight men - feelings again. A gay man is already over that hurdle even with a ugly gay man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 07:59 PM
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You know, you began with saying it was equal. I'm getting you there. Women will compromise with men, men won't. That should tell you which is significantly worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 07:30 PM
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Do prostitutes have sex with 70 year old men they find repulsive? Do gigolos, who were born straight, have sex with men? That is the crux of the issue. The point is some feelings change (like traits you find ugly), the feelings towards others don't (like the sex of a person). The fact that people compromise on while but not the other shoudl tell you which is worse. I think you already agree with me, you just don't like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 07:21 PM
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Sure, that's an extreme example. Somebody else used the example of a 70 year old man. Will you be repulsed by 70 year old men when you're 70? That's another reason your argument falls apart. There are just so many traits and responses to them, all being graded, it isn't comparable to sex. Sex is binary, barring mutations, and is not graded. But attraction to traits does change, most people don't stay constant. But orientation - oh excuse me, feelings towards/about people of a gender - stays cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 07:14 PM
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Repulsion of ugly (or rather the traits you find ugly) isn't with you with birth like orientation is - oh right, the feelings towards the sex of the person. Ugly can't be changed and is subjective. Ugly changes when people get older. Youre comparing apples to oranges and calling both pears. You say that the feelings are the same, but the feelings of the men are clearly more intense because they won't compromise for money. Then you say there are men that compromise - the issue is that they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:59 PM
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You feel it even though you're sedated? Prostitutes do it without be sedated. Straight guys can do it while sedated, their dick won't be hard. And if it somehow did happen on a flaccid dick, he'd be pissed a guy touched him in that condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:50 PM
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How does that refute what I said? Feelings don't factor into orientation? Youre just grasping at straws because you realize your view doesn't make sense and your rationalizing to try to justify it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:48 PM
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Because we are talking about orientation. You might as well be arguing for those camps that claim to turn gay people straight. They use the same kind of logic. So what? The fact that women will compromise even with guys that gross them out shows that they will compromise than men who are grossed out by holding hands with a man let alone having sex with him - and refuse to do it for money. The only men who do fuck men are men who were born bi or gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:40 PM
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It was a joke. But if he didn't know who it was, that's rape. Men get upset if they found out they got blown by a tranny. That's their feelings. So you would be okay with fucking an ugly man, or blowing him, if you didn't know he was ugly? Just turn the lights off when you have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:37 PM
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Because it is directly related to this topic. He feels bad fucking the man, because he is fucking a man. You say he would be okay with it if he didn't know who it was? That's rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:32 PM
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Sassy. But I never implied it was? I'm asking a question to point out hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:31 PM
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If I felt a beard around my dick I'd freak out? So what about your ugly man situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:28 PM
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We're going around in circles. I've made this point before, because women will compromise on looks for more pleasurable sex or money. Men won't do it for orientation, because of their feelings towards it, which you discarded when you said it wasn't about feelings and not orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:24 PM
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That's your opinion. We're all entitled to opinions, but not facts. The scientific evidence points to orientation being biologically determined. It's funny that now you say reals over feels. Because I thought it was all about feelings in your previous posts. Blindedfolded, would you know if an ugly guy was eating you out or a hot guy? What if the ugly guy felt better than the hot guy? Even if you said gay guys give better head, men would still refuse and want women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:20 PM
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No, but I wouldn't compare her situation with a situation of homosexuality - cause they're not. And that's what this thread is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:14 PM
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But we're talking about the differences. Is there anything about humans that has that kind of difference? Like race or orientation or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 06:13 PM
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Why do you think it is in the medical context? Cause we don't beat around the bush. Medicine gets to the heart of the issues. Sex is used for all of those things. There is gender variation in intelligence just not average intelligence. Males are at the extremes while females cluster at the middle, in general. Also, do you mind answering my question from the last question?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:40 PM
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I don't know about frequently, especially not relatively. Do you believe that they weren't closeted bisexuals? Do you believe they were born straight but decided to become bisexual because the money was good? Do you believe people are born bisexual? Do you believe "men who have sex with men" are really straight or really bi/gay, even though they say they are straight? Keep in mind they actively seek out male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:38 PM
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Like what? Do you believe gay men can become straight? Do you believe a person who has a sexual revulsion for old people will still have that when they are old? Do you think those things are comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:36 PM
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I addressed this is the long response. You are splitting hairs for a cop out. Men have feelings too, griddy. And even when accounting for that, they still have a higher revulsion for gay sex than women do for ugly sex. Also your first response to me was exclusively about orientation since that was what I brought up initially. You brought up this "feeling" thing when your argument started to fall apart, as a way to deflect from the initial argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:27 PM
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Would you tell a gay man to have sex with a straight woman? Cant you see why that would be offensive?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:16 PM
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My last point in the argument was that women were more likely to lower their standard in this case, ie prostitution, while men were not. Straight men do t prostitute themselves to other men or use male prostitutes. To me, this makes it clear that women's revulsion to men is lower than men's revulsion to men - because women will compromise in this case for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:14 PM
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Because sexual preferences change with time while orientation does not. As for the invasive thing, why are female prostitutes more common? Shouldn't men be more common? The revulsion is the same right? Women will compromise looks for money, but straight men won't. To me that says the revulsion for ugly men by women is less intense than the revulsion of gay men by straight men. And women necessarily need to be invaded sexually due to biology. Straight men wouldn't even want to penetrate a gay man…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 05:11 PM
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It's used everyday. I am in the clinic today working and it certainly makes a big difference here. It is literally the first thing we have to say about our patients when we present cases. Tell me that categorization is outdated after you go to a public bathroom or locker room today. Is there anything similar to those? Your opinion is that sex differences are not that large. So lets work backwards. What is larger or more fundamental than sex differences in your opinion? The only thing I can come …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:46 PM
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We can have different opinions, but not different facts. The point remains that sex still remains the most basic separation when it comes to people and has been that way for almost all of human history. If this doesn't make sense to you, start simple and go read the wikipedia article on human sexual dimorphism and move on to biology textbooks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:04 PM
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Awesome dodge of the main point. If it feels so good why do fights start if guys even imply another guy will suck him off, not to mention any actual sexual conduct. The sensation may feel pleasurable but that's the same argument used to defend female rapists of men. They don't want to do it even for money like women will do with ugly men. If that wasn't true, why don't incel men pursue men - a holes a hole right? Plus men are easier. And why don't those pursued men say yes? They could make good …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:01 PM
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No way dude, unless they're gay - which I mentioned. The feeling is related to what they do. A woman feels like she can do it, a man will not feel that ability. Some men would rather be poor. Most dont even consider it an option. Women do consider prostitution an option. Some women willingly do it because it is good money, not because they would starve otherwise. If we both feel that we don't want to clean poop, but you would compromise and do it for good money, then isn't your feeling less inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:57 PM
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They got off because their penis was stimulated. Honestly, rapists probably get off more on the violence than the sex itself. Some people are sadistic. Obviously a number of prison rapists are gay and what you say holds true for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:50 PM
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Fine, its rare. But not unique, like human speech is. But the point remains the division by sex is much further up the evolutionary tree and effects literally every species. It is base we start from. Humans are more complex so we have additional divisions like language or whatever. But language can be changed and additional ones can be learned. Sex has more profound differences in humans than language does.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:33 PM
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of biology. Other animals also have recreational sex. The sex divide came much earlier than the human traits you mentioned came up. It is much earlier in the evolution of all life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:22 PM
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To pretend it is the same as sexual orientation is disingenuous. How many men do you think a man would fuck for money? A woman would though, so their revulsion must be lower than the revulsion men feel for men because you couldn't pay a man to do it. THAT is true revulsion, because they wouldn't compromise their orientation for money. But there is an entire business set up for women fucking men they dont want to fuck. A woman will compromise her attraction. Gay men will also compromise their att…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:20 PM
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A rapist could beat a woman up, but they rape because it is psychologically horrible. Making a man feel like a woman is psychologically horrible. It is physical pain mixed with mental pain. If you want to break a man, that's a good way for a prisoner without other means to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:08 PM
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You repeat yourself because you refuse to change your beliefs. You aren't a male, so how could you know more about male repulsion than a male that actually experienced it? So what is the repulsion a male feels for a woman he has no desire for equal to for women? You would think it would be equal to the repulsion women have for men. Because as a man I can tell you that the repulsion I have for women I have zero desire for isn't in the same league as the repulsion I have for men in general when it…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:00 PM
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A rapist could get off with his hand. Is masturbation then a suitable analog for sex? A rapist gets off because his penis is being stimulated. This like the whole "a man who gets hard during a rape wasn't raped".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:57 PM
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Dude, it isn't just humans. It's true for all animals. Sex is the defining element you separate living things by within species (not intraspecies even though the gender of all animals have things in common to each gender). All those human traits you mentioned are either changeable, a combination of alleles on chromosomes (rather than specific chromosomes), or subject to nurture not nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:53 PM
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The statement is that you haven't experience male repulsion, because you're not a man. Male repulsion for women and female repulsion for women are symmetrical. The reason it is highly upvoted is because TBP links to PPD to brigade. Upvoted hardly mean anything, stick to substance. A cat won't pay the bills. Obviously women would rather fuck men they find unattractive than be homeless. You think homeless men would just turn gay for pay? Why don't men become sugar babies for rich gay men? It's not…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:44 PM
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How would you know that if you haven't experienced male repulsion for men? In my statement, I have experienced male repulsion for men and male repulsion for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:34 PM
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Have you studied biology? If you look at our DNA there are autosomal chromosomes that control our traits and an entirely different set called sex chromosomes that separate us by our gender. Feminists often try to compare gender to sexual orientation or race There is no race chromosomes, or sexual orientation chromosome. Theres no asshole chromosome or nice guy chromosome.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:28 PM
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Your main point seems to have been that those two situations are alike, which they obviously aren't. For the reasons mentioned. If you relate two things, they should be comparable. As for not being able to find unattractive people attractive, have you ever heard of people talking about fucking ugly people? Whether it be money on the part of women, or desperation on the part of men. Even if the woman finds the guy ugly, it doesnt necessarily mean she won't fuck him. The comparison doesn't work fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:01 PM
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Uh, if he does the work and her repulsion decreases then obviously her repulsion is subject to change. Sexual orientation can't be changed, you might as well believe in those "straight camps". Youre probably not attracted to 70 year old men, but that will change when you're 70. And the group of 70 year old men didn't even have to do anything to change your attraction. Sexual orientation doesnt change over time, closeted men may come out of the closet - but that was their orientation from birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:04 PM
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we also don't shame people for driving cars over walking, That will become a thing as cities become more crowded. In some parts of the world it already is. When I lived in Africa, we had this group of American women that studied abroad with us. In Africa you have to walk a lot, and it's way harder than walking everywhere here. These women refused to walk to even their classes - they'd take a cab since it just a $1 a trip. You better believe they were made fun of, we called them the "princesses".…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:14 AM
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Being that man is the accomplishment itself. He has to be better than other men to be that kind of man, but a slut doesn't have to be better than other women to be a slut. Even a 3 could be a slut, no 3 could ever be a stud - a stud by definition is above average. A slut is not above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:08 AM
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Women file for divorce more often than men in general. Lesbian divorce rate is twice that of gay male divorce rate across cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:06 AM
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They are that different for the exact reason I just made: in the drug dealer situation the person pursued is the dealer, in the prostitution situation the person pursued is the buyer. While both buyers and sellers of drugs can be pursued by law enforcement, much more resources are dedicated to sellers - and the enforcement is harsher on the seller. On the other hand, in some countries selling sex isn't illegal but buying it is. Surely you can see how this changes things entirely? Wouldn't you be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:05 AM
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No it doesn't. It is literally about the gender of the person. You are conflating sexual attraction with sexual orientation. The repulsion women get about not wanting to fuck someone they don't want to fuck = the repulsion men get about not wanting to fuck someone they want to fuck. But the point remains that some men are born straight and some men are born gay. There is nothing a man can do to become sexually desirable to a straight man. On the other hand, a sexually "repulsive" man can do some…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 12:01 AM
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Male vs female is literally the biggest thing you can separate people by. Even racial differences are minor when compared to gender differences. It is literally in our foundation down to our genes. You can tell male cells from a female cell by looking for a XY chromosome, you can't tell the genes of two races apart that easily. Those variations are hidden and small. But the sex chromosome separates us entirely. An "inter" aberration is often infertile because it is outside of the "system", a mut…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:38 AM
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Uhh, you're the one with definitions of words that are the exact opposite of what the rest of us defined them as. But yeah, good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:11 AM
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If it is voluntary, then you end it when you want. It is self-imposed, and when you decide you no longer want to be celibate - you seek sex. But when she chooses not to have sex (for a long period of time, or not) she is abstinent. Pretty simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:07 AM
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The definition of celibate does not include "when they want", no matter how you try to redefine it to fit your views. LOL! That is actually exactly what it includes: Celibacy (from Latin, cælibatus") is the state of voluntarily being unmarried, sexually abstinent, or both, usually for religious reasons. Nice try though. Good thing my views align with reality. Buh bye. Lates.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 05:00 AM
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FA means you're alone or lonely No lonely means you're lonely. FA means something else encompassing loneliness. why do you get to decide what "true FA" is? I don't. You can believe women are FA, but you can't complain that men say that isn't true FA like I can't complain about women saying they are true FA. They can say they are, but I believe it's BS. That is an opinion of mine, not a fact. But I am backing my opinion up with reasoning. Are you saying a man who can't find any kind of meaningful…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:51 AM
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There is no defined term for FA. Men see it one way, women another - because women can't know true FA. Involuntary celibacy is part of FA for men, but not for women. Dude, this argument started with discussions of incel and prostitutes that you brought up. Now you're moving goalposts to talking about incels and bringing up FA instead of "purely incel". Incel is a cornerstone of FA men, but not women because they don't have to be incel. Yes, male and female FAs have similarities. But incel isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:31 AM
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So what? They can still get sex, They just don't like the method. So by your own logic, they're not real incels. This is the crux. So this is what I'll respond to even though I've made this point multiple times: A man that has no money is involuntarily celibate, and a man with money is going farther into that part of the axis every time he has sex with a prostitute - ie becoming more involuntarily celibate until he reaches the min at $0. A woman has no such min, she is always on the positive axi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 04:24 AM
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And then try being crippled by self doubt to the point where you can't respond, or that you cancel/don't turn up to the meet up because you can't stand the thought of having to interact with a stranger no matter how horny you are. So what? That's still on you. The other person has done his part, and you are preventing him from taking it any further. Take anti-anxiety meds or whatever. The point of being incel is that you can't get another person to have sex with you. You are discussing an issue …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:54 AM
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sex·u·al o·ri·en·ta·tion noun a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:36 AM
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Oh please. Those things aren't comparable. The consequences for seeking prostitutes are much harsher. Plus, drug sellers are the ones mostly pursued by law enforcement and it is the opposite for prostitution - where the buyers are the ones who are mostly pursued. That alone should tell you something. Usually it is the sellers who bear the brunt of the punishment - except when it comes to buying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:33 AM
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All people have to do things to get sex, even if it's as simple as having the social skills to be able to talk to people. Nope. Seriously go to Craiglist or R4R and make a fake female account. Be as unappealing as you consider "not having to do anything to get sex" would be. Then see all the propositions come up. The other reason is that women don't often make sex (or a lack of it) the centre of their world, or identify themselves be whether they can/can't get laid. Right. Because it isn't an is…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:32 AM
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It is about dominance and power because the rapist is always the penetrator. No [male] prison rapist assumes the role of the penetrated. And for gay men, being penetrated is pleasurable. It doesn't matter if you buy it or not, that's what it is. That would be like saying "I don't buy that men rape women for power, they rape because they can't have any women to willingly have sex with them". Also, that reaffirms my statement about closeted gay men. It shouldn't be a surprise that certain demograp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:27 AM
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Those things aren't comparable to sex. Sex has inherent risks like STDs, pregnancy, and risk of violence. It doesn't make sense to blame women, because men being easy works for [gay] men too. There's no gender to blame. But, to hold different standards, for example making fun of a guy for not being able to get laid while easily getting laid because you are a woman will inevitably lead to slut shaming. I don't think a lot of women realize that slut shaming and virgin/low sex shaming are related. …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:23 AM
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If you brag about it like it's an accomplishment of some sort? Then yeah. And those things vary by sexual orientation. If you like to have sex with men, you will have an easier time than if you like to have sex with women. That's why the slut vs stud thing actually works. Because being a stud is an accomplishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 03:20 AM
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I've always used this argument when it comes to the sluts vs studs debate. Having sex with men is easy. This is why sluts are looked down upon. Because men could do it easily too, but don't. They would look down on a guy who took the approach you are saying incels should take, so it makes sense to look down on sluts too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:53 PM
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People's preferences do change. For example, when you're 70 you would want to have sex with that old man (or at least not be disgusted). But sexual orientation doesnt change like that. A gay man might be closeted. But he was born gay, he just discovered it later. You weren't born being attracted or not being attracted to old men. You could technically have sex with an animal does that mean the concept of incel doesn't ever exist? Obviously not because incel is an actual term that means something…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:32 PM
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You avoided the main argument we have been having, but I'll respond to the other points. We're using different definitions of conditions, but maybe I should have used a different term. None of what you listed have the person give anything up (in terms of transfer) and aren't quantifiable or subject to decrease in a discrete amount. Theres a reason you haven't heard of them. They don't exist. It's practically an oxymoron. I know. I was saying he would use prostitutes, but eventually his money wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:16 PM
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It exposes it and creates a positive feedback loop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 04:06 PM
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That statement was in comparison to the female situation. The point I'm trying to make is that there is a condition to getting the sex at all, it is not there if the money isn't there. In the female situation, it is there regardless. Money is a scarce resource. Every time you get sex with a prostitute your future chances are decreased because you just lost money. You can't have sex with no money with a prostitute, but a woman with no money can get sex. And it would probably solve her no money si…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:59 PM
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I'm saying you aren't continually given sex. Money runs out. In the situation you're describing you might have to choose between eating or having sex. In the FA woman's situation, she can have both. There is no limitation to the sex she gets. That's the difference. A lot of incel men are very poor. I can't imagine too many rich men being incel. On the other hand, poor women can escape poverty while solving their incel situation at the same time. Can you see how the situations aren't comparable?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:34 PM
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Nah. I remember when a bluepill man was outed once. He was a bigger FA than Elliot R. Very ugly as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:26 PM
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Because that sex is dependant on having money. Once the money stops, so does the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:22 PM
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I guess cheap is relative. Then there's the whole legality issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:14 PM
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You realize you can't change your sexual orientation, right? Having sex with a person you consider ugly isn't the same as changing your sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:13 PM
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Youre placing the locus on the willingness on the person who is incel wanting to have sex. The locus should be placed on the person the "incel" is having sex with. That's why prostitutes don't count. We are discussing whether male and female FAs can find people who want to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:04 PM
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That's like saying men who go hungry don't really have the option of starving because they are allowed to buy food. What kind of logic is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 03:00 PM
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I guess you got me. Starvation is worse than being force fed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 05:50 AM
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Being forced to have something you don't want is worse than not having something you do want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/15 05:29 AM
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It was a joke, calm down. Also, the beta cuckolding binges are directly related to sexual partners, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:41 PM
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It is a real story though. Just recent so all the rag papers are rushing to them first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:04 PM
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You have to multiply by 3 for the number a woman says when she talks about sexual partners. That's the minimum for the real number.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 06:03 PM
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Wow, she went to Tulane. Can't say I'm surprised by that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:38 PM
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Bingo. I find it interesting that Marc Lepine, Elliot Rodgers, and Chris Mercer Harper were all raised by single moms - all mothers who divorced men who were a different ethnicity/culture than them (no racist, Rodgers's mom wasn't the white person in the relationship). The only other incel I remember doing something like this is that George Sodini guy. I wonder if the pattern holds true. This is just an observation, I'm not making a statement about interracial relationships, considering they are…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:38 AM
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This is going to sound like a terrible proposition, but take a look at /r9k/. They definitely don't use the "Nice Guy" argument. They know exactly why women won't choose them (they have terrible self-esteem, wouldn't even pretend to be fake nice). They blame God/nature/whatever for making them and women that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:36 AM
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What do you think the Taliban is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:32 AM
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What if the guys giving out that vibe outnumbered the "good men"? Keep in mind that in the past it is very plausible that a minority of guys monopolized sex (that old 80% of women reproduced, but only 40% of men did - harems and such).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:29 AM
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I find it interesting that Marc Lepine, Elliot Rodgers, and Chris Mercer Harper were all raised by single moms - all mothers who divorced men who were a different ethnicity/culture than them (no racist, Rodgers's mom wasn't the white person in the relationship). The only other incel I remember doing something like this is that George Sodini guy. I wonder if the pattern holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:24 AM
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The problem is different people have different interpretations of "well-mannered, civilized individuals". For example, in some communities being a slut isn't considered "well-mannered and civilized".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:18 AM
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This is ridiculous considering it is the opposite in the real world. The clearest example is when cheating comes up. When a guy does it is because he is a "dog", when a woman does it is because the guy drove her to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:16 AM
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Non-incels do that too. That isn't what distinguishes them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 04:10 AM
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Won't the women have to know your view before they can try to change it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/15 03:51 AM
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I know. That's why I'm saying beta bucks is relatively common, at least significantly more common than women being sexually ignored. So it seems across the average population, men would feel sexually ignored and also used when they get inferior sex. In the same way a woman feels used when she gets inferior sex, but will that same woman feel sexually ignored? No because there are plenty of men offering bad sex. There are few women offering bad sex, if any at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 10:04 PM
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The discussion is that the other gender can't feel used/ignored correct? It seems like a large portion of men can feel both. Beta bucks is pretty common. Beta bucks are also inferior men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:29 PM
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I guess they get used by sex, since the wife doesn't really want to have sex with the beta bucks. It is inferior sex, whether in quality or quantity. The sex they have is a way to get the beta bucks to be the beta bucks. It just strikes me as that is being sexually used.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:16 PM
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Beta bucks are used men, so why don't men know what it is like to be used?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:11 PM
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This month I summed my anxieties up to my doctor and she was overwhelmed by the concepts I was discussing. I have been to a psychologist and he gave up because he said I out-witted him and basically discharged me a session later. Damn, they suck. I do find it funny though, like they would be able to deal with schizophrenics but not TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 04:51 AM
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You're trying a lot of things, so you might as well try professional therapy as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/15 04:45 AM
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Few TV role models to show off the sexy Indian man in western cinema. Indian cinema is pretty cringey in my opinion. Compare this to Japanese, South Korean, or Chinese cinema - or even Indonesian cinema. While it is true Western cinema does nothing for Indian men, neither does Indian cinema. At least for the other Asian races, there are good alternatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/15 05:11 AM
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Midwest is a big place. My city was the biggest in the state - boring, but nice. But I moved out of there before college. So yeah, I guess you could say something like that. But I said affluent parts of those regions, not every part of London, CA, and NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:33 AM
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Everything is different in CA and NY, and to a lesser extent FL. Issue there being there are so many celebrities, rich people, models, etc. I'm also inclined to say TRP isn't applicable in the affluent parts of London, CA, and NY.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:29 AM
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And don't even get me started on how the red pill is delusional enough to believe that a 30 year old guy is going to somehow end up dating and screwing attractive college girls! I don't know if it is just the regions we are in that is different or what. But this is relatively common. Just in my Midwestern middle school class of 80, we have 4 girls who did this. And this was a good middle school, IB program and everything. Of course, the girls themselves weren't the brightest girls there - but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:14 AM
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Sounds like there was bit more wrong with the mom than the son.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 06:11 AM
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LOL, that sounds emasculating for the sons.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:22 PM
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What I should be saying instead is that these men are probably jealous of men who have a high n count (as men and women are rarely truly jealous of each other. Competition between the sexes isn't a regular thing) Bingo. Now we're on the same page. unhappy with women who have lots of sex with men who are not them and they worry that their partner's past sexual experiences will be better than them Yep. And this is the point I was making. You made it sound like the men with high n count partners we…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:21 PM
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Yeah, but its from the protection angle. Because the men shallow women choose are stereotyped as treating women "badly", ie. cheating on them (because they are attractive). But it isn't done as a service for ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 11:13 PM
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I am saying having sex with a man is fundamentally different from having sex with a woman. You can't just say casual sex is equal between the sexes, because it isn't. A [straight] man would be envious of putting a penis into someone, he wouldn't be envious of a penis being put into him. If you want to say the ability to have casual sex is easy for women, it is easy for men too - it's just that most men are not attracted to men. The only thing that is true is that obtaining casual sex from women …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:53 PM
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In their own minds they are jealous of the fact that such a woman can get casual sex so easily and it makes them angry, resentful and upset. I've never understood why anyone would think guys would be jealous of a slut. If a guy wanted to sleep with a bunch of guys, he easily could. Grindr works way better than Tinder. There is nothing to be jealous about in regards to a person having a bunch of male partners. A girl that can sleep with a bunch of women easily? Now that's something to be jealous …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 10:34 PM
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Those goddamn enablers.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/15 09:58 AM
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Wut? So what do single men do? There are more single men than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 07:10 PM
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She's a prostitute, for real. He's already being cuckolded. He just wants to take it to the next level and be in the room masturbating while watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/15 06:48 PM
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I remember there being a lot of links to lipstick alley. It seemed like they cared.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 04:49 PM
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I see, I got the opposite impression because TRP seems to say that even those virgin women will still wonder, but they can be better trusted since they didn't act on those wandering thoughts like the "sluts". But I'm sure there is a diversity of opinion among TRP as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:53 PM
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What makes you say that? TRP says the exact opposite. That women are always wondering about if she "missed out" on other guys, especially when their relationship hits a rough spot. TRP seems to say women, in general, are the more capricious sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:15 PM
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Sounds like he's been putting up with her obnoxiousness for a while. But she definitely has more power in regards to the kid, so I understand why he is afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:33 AM
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He might fear losing him. Especially considering the way she has been acting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:22 AM
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She has their kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 07:07 AM
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I just read that other guy's submissions. They may both be unlucky with each other. But I definitely think that guy has it worse in regards to their relationship partner. And reading his other posts gave me a stronger feeling that she is full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:55 AM
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I just looked up the OP of that thread. He isn't even married to her. She's just his live in girlfriend with their kid. He got lucky in that he's not married to her, he got unlucky in that she has his kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 06:43 AM
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This is the first time I've seen something like this. Usually it is fat white women saying that only black men can "handle" them.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/08/15 03:31 AM
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I have no interest in arguing whether promiscuous men are undesirable or not. But my opinion is that promiscuous men are less undesirable than promiscuous women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:49 AM
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Only if he has an STD. And he is less likely to get it in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/15 01:48 AM
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That's because women can easily get quantity. Men can't easily get quality. Quality women are just as rare as quality men. If men could easily get quantity, we'd want quality too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 06:48 PM
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Blue pill isn't a collected, cohesive thought - for the most part, it is anything not red pill. I think most people would say it is just the status quo [in Western/developed countries]. Others might say that the blue pill aligns with feminist ideals, so it isn't the status quo but is rather a goal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/15 08:06 AM
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Isn't the point of TBP to make fun of TRP because theyre insane? So if you have people on your own side who are the same as TRP, just on the opposite side, isn't that hypocritical to pretend TBP is better?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 03:35 PM
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In my high school, unattractive kids were never popular. Not to say all the attractive people were popular. But how do you be popular without being attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:28 AM
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Okay, but your snarky end of the paragraph implied that it was not being a complete dick that played a major role in his getting laid, when in reality it doesnt matter if you are dick or not if you are attractive. Unless you are implying that unattractive men can get laid by being nice, or not being a dick, which sounds like it is straight out of /r/niceguys. This is the kind of stuff that leads to the creation of nice guys in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 08:14 PM
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I'm saying the opposite. Your previous comment made it sound like the reason he was getting laid was because he was so nice to women. If he is attractive, he could be a dick and still get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:57 PM
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Ah yes, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:40 PM
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He talks to them and doesn't act like a complete dick . Rocket science it ain't. Lol he sounds like a nice guy, amirite? Is that the piece that other guys are missing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:21 PM
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I love how bloopers can believe these stories, but trp field reports are just fan fiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 07:18 PM
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Many of these relationships were poly, so my partners could and did get many other (hot) ladies. Just asking, but the ladies usually had far more options/partners of the opposite sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:33 AM
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Yeah. Most of the guys I knew who easily got with women didn't put up with feminist bullshit. The guys who struggled looked into feminism and decided to change and go after the feminist girls, which often is a pain in the ass for them - emasculation, dating sluts (who often slept with the non-feminist guys I mentioned earlier), being the butt of jokes, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:32 AM
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I see most "open marriages" as a Tobias/Lindsay marriage. The man is probably a closet homosexual, is relatively undesirable, and effeminate. If anyone has watched the series, the wife has a lot of partners and the husband barely gets one (and even then she's a drugged out weirdo) - I think a lot of open marriages tend to be like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:29 AM
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Did this study control for age? I always thought that younger players, who tend to suck, are also the ones who make the most fun of female players. Also, how does video game players translate to real world? Shouldn't we be looking at actual winners, instead of the "winners among losers"? Are good athletes more likely to be positive or negative towards women? Are the "winners" in life, like businessmen, authority figures, "the patriarchy" (who are by definition winners since they control everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/15 06:06 AM
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Who mentioned anything about fault? All I did was say that it was very easy for a woman to make money solely by being attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 10:52 PM
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Yes it will. Cam shows are the easiest, playing video games on twitch is another option.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/15 06:32 PM
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I believe this too, but what happens when a feminist says something like "better to let a woman go free [for a false rape accusation] than to punish a woman who was actually raped". I mean, that's their argument isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/15 08:38 AM
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There's a whole lecture on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/15 02:22 AM
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To get laid at all? No way. It would have to be the tiniest percentage of women if at all. I'm not saying every guy will fuck every woman. But for every woman there are a couple of guys hard up enough to fuck her. The reverse isn't true.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 03:00 AM
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Cuckolds do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:45 AM
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You're mixing up issues. Your issue is that you can't just go home with whichever guy you want, but you (and practically any woman) will always be able to go home with a guy - guaranteed. For guys, going home with a girl is never a guarantee. The more attractive the guy is, the less he will have to drop his standards to increase his odds - but some guys are just beyond hope, their odds will never be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:43 AM
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I think its the opposite. No matter what the woman looks like, there's some guy who finds her attractive. Maybe he has a fat fetish, or fetish for transsexual looking women, or some other fetish. But men simply have lower standards for what is attractive. But there are just some guys who no woman will find attractive. And women's attractions seem to be more in line with each other. The vast majority of women won't find short men attractive, race matters much more for women, etc. In regards to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/15 02:36 AM
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Remember this?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 06:01 AM
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I can only speak from experience of being of an Indian background and knowing others of this background, but I have noticed one glaring trend. Indian men of Muslim/Sikh/Buddhist/Christian backgrounds tend to do better than Indian men of Hindu/Jain/Dharmic backgrounds [in terms of interracial relationships and relationships in general]. In my experience, Omar from Pakistan will do pretty well - but Ramesh from India won't. And there isn't too much difference phenotypically, although people of Sou…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 05:51 AM
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He doesn't work specifically to get sex, but the money he spent was money he (or his father) worked for. You can bait women, but eventually you're going to have to spend something. A homeless woman could be a slut very easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 08:21 PM
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He wasn't fat and ugly when he was a slutting though. Many former sluts end up being fat and ugly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 08:10 PM
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Depends on your definition of easy, I wouldnt consider working to buy something to be easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 08:08 PM
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Bet those men get that gene from their mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 08:04 PM
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The reason many feminists are opposed to prostitution is because many women are exploited, ie they don't have a choice in the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:56 PM
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No. Must be the work of the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:50 PM
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There are no fat ugly male sluts. Thats the most glaring difference I think. Its easier to be a female slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:48 PM
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All those female high school teachers that sleep with their students must have creepy male genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/15 07:46 PM
1

Well okay, but if this is how our species spent most of our evolutionary history, why haven't we evolved to produce more females than males? This was recently asked in /r/askscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 03:32 PM
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Someone who has sex only with ugly chicks, because they are the only ones he can have sex with? No, I don't think so. But a man who had sex with a lot of ugly chicks but average and hot ones as well? Yes, he probably pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 10:02 AM
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I can look up posts where trpers argue that promiscuity is good/ great all the time. And you are like " I don't agree with this, it isn't true" Do me a favour... can you let u/sleuthoftrades know that? Never stated this, no need to put words in my mouth. Didn't read the rest of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:59 AM
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No, thats what the statement "there are no fat ugly studs" means. If you were a fat ugly man, you could go to prostitutes. But having sex with a lot of prostitutes doesn't make you a stud. Have you ever seen TRP advocate going to a lot of prostitutes? Studs are high value because they can attract a lot of women, not because they can pay for a lot of prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:32 AM
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Do you think men who have a lot of partners due to escorts are considered studs?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:26 AM
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By this logic, women with high partner counts are exactly what men want as proven by their high partner count. No, there are fat ugly sluts there are no fat ugly studs. By your logic prostitutes are very desirable partners because a lot of men have had sex with them. A lot of men had sex with them because they were easy (or easier), not because they were more desirable than other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 09:16 AM
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Yeah, the only guys in a relationship with a promiscuous woman (when they don't like sluts) are guys who were tricked into them by lies of omission. Unfortunately, that is still relatively common.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 02:31 AM
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As far as anthropologists know, there is no evidence of a matriarchy having ever existed. You said "close", so I guess it depends on how close is close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/15 05:35 PM
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They need to make a porn parody of this.
/r/PussyPass17/04/15 05:25 AM
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JK Rowling wrote the best selling book series in history, which later became the highest selling film series in history. Forbes named her the first person to become a billionaire by writing books. Even if her book series is outsold later, her status as the first to become a billionaire by writing books will always be true. The only reason she isn't a billionaire now is because she gave away so much money to charities.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:38 PM
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No, Mozart showed affection for her, especially during the early, formative years. He tried to get her to stand up to her father and not be forced into a marriage, but it happened anyway. This probably isn't just one exception. It's just one exception that we know about. Who knows how many similar situations were simply lost to history? I would bet quite a few. As the years go on, I'm sure we'll see a bucking of this trend. Some would say it is happening already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:30 PM
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How do you know? Wolfgang himself praised her compositions. We don't have any surviving compositions to judge her work, as far as I know. And even if she weren't as good as Wolfgang, that doesn't exclude the possibility that she was good in her own right. She doesn't have to be better than Wolfgang to be better than nearly everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:23 PM
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Wolfgang Mozart had a very talented sister, Maria Anna, but her father didn't think it was appropriate for her to explore her talents. Many women simply were not allowed to showcase their talents, even if they were artistically very creative. We now see quite a few artistically talented women now that they are allowed to follow their artistic endeavors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/15 04:16 PM
1

But women run slower than men too...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 02:11 AM
4

Also known as /r/thebluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/15 01:56 AM
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Relax, its satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:41 PM
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Everything is rape, all the time. That's what you wanted to hear, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/15 09:38 PM
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Cardio is an integral part of bodybuilding. Have you ever been to a gym? At my gym, the hardcore lifters (read: "bros") usually lift, play a game of basketball, and finish with a run on the indoor course/treadmill or rowing (less common, but what I personally like). I personally don't pay attention to TRP's information on bodybuilding, but it recommends lifting and sports (particularly martial arts). I would assume most then head on over to /r/fitness or /r/bodybuilding where they would get the …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/15 10:12 PM
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Are you going to be wearing a horse head mask? If so, maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/15 12:13 AM
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I thought the allure of ending slut shaming was that more sex would be had.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/15 06:32 AM
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You'll also find differences due to the general biology associated with gender (hormones). Those things are not repressible, normally. Testosterone, estrogen, and all the other biological differences that make men and women different will have an effect on their brains. When men and women develop, they develop differently. So just saying "boys and girls" are the same when they are kids isn't saying much. As they develop (puberty) the differences take hold between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 09:24 PM
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Well, I had to fill out selective service. So my right to vote is conditional, and I have to agree to fight and die to vote, whereas women's right to vote is inherent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 09:31 PM
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Hardly. Sex before marriage is disallowed for men as well, and the max amount of plates is 4. Even Mormonism allows more wives. If anything, Mormonism is the RP utopia - down to the "old time" clothing and it being mostly white Americans.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 09:25 PM
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Islam was relatively liberal in terms of women's rights when it was first founded, not just in its own culture but relative to the rest of the medieval world. But would you mind listing some similarities so they can actually be debated? Are you referring to acceptance of polygyny or the huge importance placed on motherhood? The founder of Islam married a 40 year old widow when he was 15 years younger than her. Hardly a TRPer. She was also richer, and had more "status", than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 09:06 PM
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I find it funny that the "sexodus" is derided as something that doesn't matter, but "sex strikes" are seen as important and shows of strength for women. I don't think the "sexodus" is relevant yet. It may or may not matter in the future. But right now, it is not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 10:53 PM
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I credit all of my male privilege to my Y chromosome and testosterone. No /s, they're awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/14 12:27 AM
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Yeah, and all the TBPers were upset about the "meddling". There has to be some sort of consistency for both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:10 AM
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All you BPers are literally living your lives incorrectly and you're being beta bucked despite the fact that you're happy with the regular sex you're having! I think its less of this and more of a "man, I would hate to live like that guy. Let me loudly tell everyone that so I minimize the risk of it happening to me. Also, I need to keep telling myself too so I don't do it accidentally."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/14 07:07 AM
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Yea, its pretty common in SJW circles. Apparently it makes you look childish and ruins your "silhouette" or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 07:31 PM
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I think it is an extension of Bateman's Principle. Women do have more reproductive success than men, how this translates to recreational sex I don't know - but I would imagine that it does follow the same trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:13 PM
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In another thread like this quite a few Indian women basically said Indian men were boring and sexist and would likely judge them for being slutty, which is why they preferred white dudes. Not saying I agree but that's probably a popular sentiment. I've considered this. However, in my opinion, [some] Asian women are notorious for slandering Asian men. See Esther Ku or Jenny An, who had to backpedal when she was called on her racism. These are standard racist maneuvers against Asian men - and in …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:48 AM
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So male feminists are the inverse of women who "internalize misogyny". Makes sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:18 AM
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We're going to need definitions here, SJW means different things to different people (I would imagine). Here is one I like: an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet, often in a shallow or not well-thought-out way, for the purpose of raising their own personal reputation Its self-serving and they use real problems (either their own or others') to stroke their ego. I picture them like this. Common descriptions of them include histrionic, dr…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 05:10 AM
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Threesomes? Almost definitely not. But I wouldn't want one with a serious relationship partner because I would expect her wanting a MFM in return, which I am not down for. Just her and another woman? Probably not, I would only mind if she lied about it or did it behind my back (basically cheating). If she left me for the other woman, that would suck but I'd get over it pretty quickly I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 03:17 AM
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Does this make you feel like you've got a better prize (for lack of a better phrase)? If you knew the dude a girl had slept with, and knew he was super picky about who he picked... would that make this girl more attractive to you? Kind of. But I think it is more about how she viewed her role in being his partner. For example, Wilt Chamberlain probably only slept with really hot women, but he still slept with a lot of them. He was picky, but she was just another number to him - I wouldn't want a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:54 AM
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See Tim Tebow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:42 AM
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I've noticed this too. With #shirtgate, fedora backlash, cargo shorts hating, and the general trope of straight men being bad dressers, I get the feeling that feminists and SJWs are the official fashion police of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:41 AM
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A high partner count makes me uncomfortable because of STDs and because it could be indicative of a personality trait I wouldn't like in a partner Hmm, so would the concern that male-male sex has higher risks of STDs be a factor for you? For your friends where the gender of past partners matters... do they have a reason for that? Can't speak for them, but I have a couple of reasons. First, I know it is easier to hook up with a man than it is with a woman. I don't know why that makes such a diffe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:37 AM
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Do straight women differentiate between female and male partners? Would you rather a man have 5 male partners rather than 5 female partners? I ask, because personally and by the accounts of my friends, a woman with 10 female partners and 2 male partners would be preferable to a woman with 8 male partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 01:19 AM
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It didn't achieve those goals though. People still fucked around. And now we are seeing a gradual shift away from religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:02 PM
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Well, old women vastly outnumber old men. If you live long enough, there's a good chance you can do well, just not with younger women (unless you're a Patrick Stewart type).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:43 PM
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This is what religion tried to promote. It didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:41 PM
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Nah, its not feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 07:40 PM
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Some cultures can be more sexist than others, or experience more poverty, or have lower education rates. But to apply it to individuals is racist. It would be like saying "aren't black/hispanic/Asian men generally more poor and undereducated than white men?". And even that isn't a good comparison, because we are comparing personality traits and status. Maybe something like "aren't black/hispanic/Asian men generally more violent than white men?".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 08:07 AM
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When you're from TBP, sometimes a little rationality has to be removed to make room for even more snark.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:45 AM
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Its easy for her to say, because that threat isn't real to her. There is a specific demographic of false accusers, and there is a specific demographic of false rape accusation victims. Rape can happen to anyone, male or female, and be committed by anyone, male or female. False rape accusations as a male do not work, you either won't be believed (oh, the irony) or you'll be told to suck it up. This is a gendered issue, and there are "outgroups".
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 06:14 AM
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The media will do anything and everything to exploit the fears of its consumers in order to make a quick buck. That's how it works. Taking Rape Culture and exploiting it is an excellent way to drown in cash. Its not just the media. In Wanetta Gibson's case, she personally profited. The constant accusations of "rape culture" itself is contributing to the false rape accusation problem. Men are presumed guilty by the public before they are ever tried, and in many cases even if they are found to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 03:51 AM
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Not from what I recall. They were somewhat "white washed". They couldn't speak the language, weren't very in tune with the culture (my uncles and aunts aren't that much either), they converted to Christianity, etc. They had more in common with white guys than they did Indian guys. Aside from their appearance, they were pretty much white.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 01:19 AM
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Yeah, but the fat ugly ones can't always get the hot guys. They can get laid anytime, just not by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/14 12:00 AM
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I'm pretty sure its just one (or a couple) trolls. But it does happen in real life. It has made me very suspicious of Indian women, thankfully none of the women I've been with have been Indian. And I don't plan on being the chump that ends up with one of those Indian AF/BBers, so win for me. And the Indian women only lose if they can't land a white guy, which isn't the case for the women in my family who have married white guys (they usually aren't as successful though, to be honest). Its weird,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:44 PM
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rape false convictions are nowhere near as prevalent as actual rape. You don't have to be convicted. A simple accusation is enough to severely damage your life. And the feminists will then all pretend (if the guy was innocent/not charged), that it was simply another case of a "rapist getting away with it" and an example of "rape culture". Even if you're innocent, you're guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:39 PM
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No, women have a bigger problem with rape than they do with false accusations. In all the time I have heard of false accusations, I have never heard of a woman being the victim. Imagine that scenario did happen, and a man accused a woman of rape. First, he'd probably be laughed out of the room for complaining about sex. And second, he'd be accused of making it up (oh, the irony). How often do women [falsely] accuse other women of rape? Not as often, I would imagine. Men have a tremendous problem…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 11:18 PM
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Men and women can both be raped. When I think about this discussion, I put it in terms of "if I had to choose one, would I rather be raped or would I rather be sent to prison for a rape I didn't commit?". I think I would rather be raped. In both cases I would be punished even though I was innocent. But in prison I could also be raped on top of everything else. After being raped, there is a path to moving on. You lose that in prison, you lose years of your life and there is no worthwhile effort t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 10:57 PM
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I think there is a reason most people try not to give the impression they care, because there is an even bigger fear of being lied to about it. Look at the posts by /u/wolfsouls and /u/17b29a. If telling the truth will get you lied to by women, it is best to not let on that you care in real life. This is exactly what I do in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/14 07:16 PM
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I think this is just one of those "two kinds of people in the world" kind of things. If you don't get it, I am starting to think you never will. To you, it is a positive. To me, it is not - if anything it is the relationship equivalent of these Budapest events (warning NSFW). The thought of it just makes me feel icky.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 08:04 PM
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Sometimes they truly can't perceive it as frivolous. They think they are in the right, but any outside observer would see their "justification" for divorce as completely asinine, and it would be indistinguishable from doing it for shits and giggles. When I was a kid, my mom almost did that for one of the stupidest reasons imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:12 PM
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I know a couple (in America) that is only slightly older than me who got divorced because the wife didn't like how the husband squeezed toothpaste out of the tube. Presumably the underlying thinking was that he wasn't cultured enough or something for her. I still haven't figured that one out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 07:10 PM
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When you can't find the pussy, sometimes it turns out you are the pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/14 12:08 AM
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Being a beta buck is worse than having nothing at all, in my opinion. Being forever alone is lacking happiness, being a beta buck is lacking happiness but also gaining unhappiness. How in the world is it possible for you to be sexless if you have the option to "settle" for a 27 year old with a high partner count? Are you telling me that she is going to not sleep with you before marriage? If you are in that god-forsaken situation, I think the most prudent move would to sleep with her (while she i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 08:37 PM
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Maybe I should have said "women compete with men for white collar jobs". Women do not compete with men for the jobs you listed, they are primarily female dominated. Typically, women in those jobs work because they have to. If you asked those women, would you rather work here or be a SAHM, I think most would pick SAHM. However, in white collar jobs (especially prestigious jobs such as lawyer, executive, etc), I think a larger percentage would rather work than be SAHMs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:32 AM
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Like everything else in the world, it goes back to money. Business interests can be considered "enablers" of feminism because women are the biggest consumers. There's just more to market to women, and so they drive the economy. Women buy more, so companies influence the media to target female consumers. In the US, I suppose you could consider women entering the workforce and subsequently gaining the right to vote as the biggest advances made by feminism. These were done to prop up a war economy …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/14 03:12 AM
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I heard men may cheat more (if you disregard that women have more of an incentive not to disclose their cheating), but women cheat with more people. This is consistent with anecdotal experience, and in the Reddit-sphere you'll see the same thing on /r/relationships. It also fits in neatly with women having an easier access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/14 04:32 AM
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The traits you ascribed to Qatar aren't exclusive to that kind of culture. East Asian cultures also have similar expectations of women, as well as South Asian cultures. Having those traits in society doesn't mean that society has to become a place like Qatar.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 09:40 PM
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I've also been told that it means that I'm a slut and that I've probably slept with most of the guys I hang out with on a regular basis. Interestingly I just saw this article on /r/science that says something similar. Of course the title is misleading, as discovered in the comments. But to be honest, I usually don't seek anything romantic (more than sex) with a woman that has mostly male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 05:36 PM
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If the genders were reversed, I am sure most people would say it was abuse. Although he is part of the problem for not standing up for himself and not leaving, it seems awfully close to victim blaming. Long story short, he's screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/14 04:51 AM
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If a significant amount of women weren't hypergamous and didn't do the whole AF/BB thing, I wouldn't spin plates. ... is what I would say if I were a red pill kind of person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/14 08:25 AM
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Not trying to be offensive, but didn't you mention you had Asperger's before?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 09:46 PM
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Its happening somewhat in Japan. It isn't as far-fetched as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 06:34 PM
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I actually think women are told they know what men want better than men do, and many believe it. I think this is a huge mistake.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 06:33 PM
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slaves opposed to emancipation What? Google search yielded literally zero results.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 02:12 AM
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You're correct. I should not have said "not to go to war", but have said "not serve in combat roles".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 02:07 AM
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Feminism is a luxury of advanced civilization. If the zombie apocalypse happened tomorrow, feminism and the advances made by feminism would disappear very suddenly. I like feminism, but its a fragile thing - and I understand that having it exist itself is kind of a privilege (for those who like feminism). There are uncontacted tribes, and I doubt any of them would pass the test of being to snuff of feminists. Rich, anti-feminist societies exist (see the Middle East), but I can't think of a singl…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:53 AM
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In 1890 women did have privileges men did not have, namely not to go to war serve in combat roles - which seems pretty huge to me. You could say women wanted to go to war serve in combat roles, but couldn't. But there were also men who didn't want to but had to. I would much rather be in the former group than the latter. I recall something about one of the earliest women's movements being the "white feather" thing, where women would shame men who didn't go to war. I don't recall "men's suffrage"…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 12:44 AM
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Bateman's Principle says men have greater reproductive variance. Studies comparing Y Chromosome Adam to Mitochondrial Eve imply that Mitochondrial Eve lived a longer time ago, implying more women than men did reproduce (one article put the numbers at 40% vs 80%). Now we could go back and forth and argue this is only about reproduction and not sex, but I think that is a moot point. Reproduction and sex are related. Combine this with the modern day "oversaturation of the dick market" and you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 07:22 AM
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Entire discussions have been made about this. I don't think any one source can give you all the information. Some Youtube videos have been made about it. Lies of omission includes cherry-picking facts, and using some games as "proof" of wider tropes, while ignoring games that buck those tropes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:45 AM
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I think the opposition to Sarkeesian was due to some people viewing her as very dishonest (mostly through lies of omission) when making her points to drive an unfair narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:18 AM
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GamerGate is basically saying women use sex to get rewards/advantages from men (see Zoe Quinn). Is that a big surprise? The difference here seems to be they are focusing on that activity in a male-dominated field. GamerGate won't succeed because stopping the trade of sex for favors is almost impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/14 02:16 AM
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Nah, I would feel bad about myself the rest of my life. Its always better to just break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 07:20 PM
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It often feels like neither side is willing to "give up ground" and change their minds, they already know what they believe. If people aren't willing to change their views once they have argued them and "lost", then this isn't really a debate sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 07:53 PM
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There is no "going blue pill". Blue pill is the status quo, its like when Adam Sandler lives his life on autopilot in 'Click'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 05:23 PM
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/r/whitepeopleareweird
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 03:25 AM
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Because you say so? No need to be obtuse. I am not the only person saying it. It is a very widespread view, even outside of TRP. And those low SMV women are saying it themselves. Low SMV men are not saying the same thing. If men thought having sex with uglier women was an option, they wouldn't flock to PUAs and TRP. I just said it wasn't an option for them, last sentence of my first paragraph. The men who do have the option of fucking ugly women (and presumably no others), and meet a "fat, ugly …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:23 AM
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Sure that's what they want, but that's not what they get. Obviously women with low SMV do get laid (see my last posts), because of the sex drive disparity between men and women. If it came down to having sex with an ugly woman or not having sex at all, I would presume many men would go with the former. Unfortunately, many men don't even have that choice, so no sex for them (poor bastards). Hence the reason for "the dick market being saturated". You got men from all SMV ranges, all trying to fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 01:19 AM
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I've already explained this, we're just going around in circles. There are more men who want "just sex" than women who do, or men in general want sex more, or something to that effect. [1] [2] The cause of this disparity could be a number of factors. My opinion is that it is due to the biological difference in the sex drive between men and women, testosterone being a big root cause. One theory I heard floated in /r/twoxchromosomes is that women are more concerned about their safety when it comes…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/14 12:02 AM
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Wrongo. [1] I'd love to see the male equivalent of those two things, that don't include rich men or celebrities. Hell I'd be surprised even then.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:55 PM
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The women themselves said they were unattractive. Your second point is just tautology, that would mean every woman who has sex isn't ugly, or that men don't have sex with ugly women - being ugly and having men have sex with you aren't mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 11:32 PM
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These stories are told by the women themselves, if you refuse to believe them then you are doing what /r/askwomen calls "invalidation".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:30 PM
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Those are called hippos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:18 PM
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I don't know what to tell you except that one of us is wrong. Fat, ugly sluts exist. Fat, ugly studs do not exist - when talking about average men and women, of course. There are many stories of unattractive women being promiscuous because they have low self-esteem. That option doesn't exist for unattractive men. Even on the off chance that a fat, ugly stud did exist - if nothing changed about him except his gender, he would then have an exponentially easier time getting laid as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 10:16 PM
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I don't think even TRP could advocate banging a whale.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 06:15 PM
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Some women try, but they don't succeed. Women have higher suicide attempts than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 06:14 PM
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There was an article saying the tiny minority of men commit the vast majority of rape. I do not think a tiny minority of women are sluts, but I may be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/14 01:44 AM
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Sure, but men don't feel the need to date "personal bodyguards". If anything, some men I have met feel the need to date "personal maids", of course doing that is wrong (which is why I need feminism). I just think I would stand a better chance fighting off a woman than a man. No debate there, I am assuming you are taller than most women. I think the rest of my points stand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:59 PM
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something something M&Ms If I am constantly worried about my safety, I may be paranoid and behave in ways that wouldn't be considered "rational". This article indicates this is a reality for short women, note that all of the participants studied were women. Sorry that reality is a shitlord m'lady. Also, short people and tall people are not separate races. What is an analogy?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:50 PM
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That same "bodyguard" could easily become an abuser that other people will have trouble stopping and that could cause exponentially more harm. Or a bully that other people can't stand up to. So to answer your question, I don't know what I would do if I were as physically weak as most women and had to rely on other people. I would guess that a lot of my rationality would have to be compromised for self-preservation. zing! White people may like being in the presence of other white people for whate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:40 PM
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Thats not my primary source. My primary source is real life. You can ignore the links if you want, my comments can stand on their own. I linked them for two reasons, first my views aren't some fringe view. Comedians talk about it because these views are widespread and easily understood in order to find the humor in the situations in them. Secondly, I linked to comedic bits rather than long academic studies because I think most people would want to listen to standup comedy rather than read an aca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:37 PM
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Perhaps you have different (or lower) standards in what women you find attractive vs what men you find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 11:11 PM
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Men do this too though, thats one of the reasons women are less hairy. Hairlessness for women was selected for by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:53 PM
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Some tall women will call themselves insecure, like if you look at posts on /r/askwomen about why they don't like short guys. They'll say its because they are self-conscious about their own size. Of course, that doesn't prevent them from putting the responsibility back on the man, by expecting him to be tall. If a woman is insecure, men around her have to change to fix the situation. If a man is insecure, the man has to change to fix the situation for the women around him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:51 PM
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What? Like literally inside the vagina? I think beauty magazines would have very different cover shots if that was the case. Simply having a vagina makes you an attractive sexual prospect. Simply having a penis does not make you an attractive sexual prospect. I explained the "oversatured dick market" thing here. A 'cultural trope' in no way reflects real life, in fact just the opposite; a 'trope' is often a overused cliché, an agreed upon stereotype, often a laughable in its use. A trope serves …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:23 PM
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Because of "Bateman's principle". A minority of men are able to become promiscuous, however pretty much any woman can be promiscuous (that doesn't mean she will be promiscuous with good looking men, however). I explained it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:14 PM
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Look up "Bateman's principle". Men have greater reproductive range in terms of sexual success. There are less studs than there are sluts, but the studs are probably more successful (in terms of having partners) than the average sluts are. You seem to think there is a one-to-one correspondence for the overall group of men and women when sex occurs. While the mean increases the same for both men and women, the median increases differently for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:13 PM
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Care to expand on that? I sleep with only women, but I have had a lot of opportunities to sleep with men, I'm just not interested. In fact, it is my experience in comparing sexual selection between men and women that led to this sort of thinking. I am a straight male, and even I can say that I would find it way easier to get a male sexual partner than to find a female sexual partner. Would you disagree as a bisexual male?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/14 09:11 PM
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Virgin shamed in high school, I was younger than 18 but it still sucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 10:19 PM
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Can we get an example of this? What kinds of guys act like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 10:00 PM
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Sure, if they actually did it and not accused of doing so to shut down their viewpoint or as an easy way to attack them (the Louis CK thing linked above being another example). He said himself that he was not defending rape, but talking about how to prevent it. At the same time, other people have accused him of being a "feminist apologist".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:48 PM
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I didn't see anything about being a pedophilia apologist on his wiki, but did see some stuff about feminists calling him a rape apologist (possibly based on misconstrued statements). But I guess if people are vehemently against a certain viewpoint, slandering him by calling him a rape apologist is the easy way out. Accusing men of being a rape apologist is an easy way to dismiss them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:33 PM
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not to sleep around. Not completely true. It is to sleep around, but sleep around and not have the men find out (or not care). Check out the Sexy Son Hypothesis. Polyandry is useful for women because she can get better genes from one male and have another man care for her and her offspring (ie AFBB), because not every woman can get the same man with good genes to commit to them. Many men don't want to do this (ie don't want to commit to a slut), but many women do want men to do this (ie end "slu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:08 PM
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Scenario for men: you need to be attractive to be a slut/stud. If you are unattractive, or just average, you will have a hard time being a slut without actively working hard to that end. I'd say as an unattractive man, you'll have a hard time getting laid at all, never mind being promiscuous. Becoming an attractive man is work. I suppose there are some men who are "born" attractive, but I wouldn't know who they would be. Even attractive celebrities (who are celebrities for being attractive) need…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:50 PM
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Being a slut, in the traditional sense of the word, requires sleeping with a lot of men (or women, I guess). She wouldn't need to be attractive to be a slut, but a man would need to be attractive to be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:10 PM
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The person being harangued for doing his job, who wasn't charged by a grand jury, and who was acting in self-defense is a man too...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:47 PM
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What kind of woman is 'naturally attractive'? Do you have any idea how much work goes into 'natural attractiveness' for a woman? You can't tell me that you just want a vagina. I'm sorry to tell you, natural attractiveness is the vagina. This isn't just me saying it, it is actually a cultural trope that as long as a woman actually has a vagina, she is good to go as far as getting laid goes. I'm not saying every man in the world will want to sleep with her, but she will get laid. Not the same for …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:33 PM
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I see, so whenever a man identifying as a feminist does something wrong he was only pretending, because a true feminist wouldn't misbehave. And this is true even for men who invest decades of their life to the cause, such as Warren Farrell (who didn't even do anything wrong). You would think there would be an easier way to get a "sex ticket".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:41 AM
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I don't follow, you are saying Warren Farrell and Jian Ghomeshi were only pretending to be feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 09:12 AM
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First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they snark at you, then you win. - Gandhi - Michael Scott
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:28 AM
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Literally none of them said yes. They all said "no" or "I don't care". [Self-]selection bias? Especially considering the subreddit we are in.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:16 AM
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Then you are living in a fantasy land. Its kind of like this standup joke. The market for dick is so low, that simply being a man (and having a penis) doesn't give you inherent attractiveness like being a woman (and having a vagina) does. Can you give me a real life example of the kind of man you might be talking about? What kind of man is "naturally, very attractive"?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 08:15 AM
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That was all very interesting, and aside from the height thing, very similar to other discussions I have had with other female friends who identify as bisexual. This may not be true for you, but one of my friends mentioned that she almost felt actively compelled to judge female bodies more carefully - she attributed it to current societal attitudes about what is considered beautiful in society (which in the Western world is a slender, wide hipped, white woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 07:07 AM
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This is me asking about your other double standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 06:51 AM
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Which part would you like me to clarify? I already said that all I did was I repeated your own unsolicited information about your sexual history to give context to your posts, which may strike many men as unusual. In discussion with another user I made my own conjectures, but that was only hypothesizing, I wouldn't claim to know your sex life better than you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:57 AM
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He may not be gay, he himself admitted that he wasn't very sexually successful as a young man (virgin until 22, only one female lover, falls outside conventional attractiveness by being 5'2'', "discovering" polyamory later in life). Becoming a cuckold may be his rationalization for those things, kind of like a desperate hail-mary. I have heard of other men admitting to taking a similar path in life. It is an extreme form of AFBB in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:54 AM
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You are projecting. Nowhere did I put a shameful spin on it. I only described what was happening, as far as I gathered from your own unsolicited posts. you're the one considering being with a man on a lower plane than being with a woman, and therefore a shameful act. If you think this is my position, then you are mistaken. I am curious as to why you think that though? Because I said it is easier to find a male partner? I'd go so far as to say you're being pretty homophobic here, not that you car…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:52 AM
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It wasn't an attack, unless you consider being a cuckold to be shameful. This subreddit is concerned with sex, people's own sexual "deviations" give insight into why they think the way they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:37 AM
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Good thing Jian Ghomeshi is far more likely to be a /r/thebluepill-er than a /r/theredpill-er. He was quite fond of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:26 AM
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Feminists are pretty quick to turn on men on their side. Kind of like the whole Warren Farrell thing - a man can literally be on a board for the National Organization for Women, and if he steps outside of the feminist march he is labelled a misogynist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:25 AM
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Just desserts taste so good. He actually struck me as one of those "sexual free-for-all" kind of guys [that are so common to /r/thebluepill], way too smug about his participation in out-of-the-norm sexual subcultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:24 AM
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You really can't tell the difference? Maybe the fact you're a promiscuous homosexual has something to do with it. He's a semi-cuckold. He prides himself on being this sexually-enlightened "poly" guy. The thing is he's poly because he takes on male lovers - which is easy enough for anyone (of both genders) to do. Meanwhile his female lover is getting dicked by another guy. Truly a man we can only aspire to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 05:02 AM
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Oh my god, all of your posts are just regurgitating the same thing and not even listening to the answers. This has already been answered in your other posts. The "becoming a man that easily has sex with a woman" is the work. I don't know how many times it has to be posted, but Jim Jefferies sums it up. You are so committed to one narrative ("guys who care about sluts are just insecure") that you are overlooking the very simple explanation. An ugly woman just has to go to a bar, and she will get …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:56 AM
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I remember reading somewhere that women have a more disfavorable view of bisexual men than men have of a bisexual woman. I'll try to dig up a source. I always construed it as due to realizing that by opening themselves up to the male population as well, they had "leveled the playing field" in the ease of getting sex. Similarly, guys don't tend to care if women like women (its actually kind of preferred, I think), because guys know how hard it is to hook up with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 04:50 AM
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More like people who already had a distasteful view of women were finally persuaded to eat right, work out, and be social due to finding common ground with a group of "advice-givers".
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:07 PM
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I'm not into them because I find them unattractive, that's often an awkward situation, yes. But I've never been ANGRY at the guy for not being hot to me. Go to twitter.com and do a search for "short men" or "short guys". There are plenty of women who are ANGRY that short men exist, flirt with them, or even dare to speak to them. This isn't even a self-selected group either. Women looking at a man with disgust just for approaching her (labeling him a creep, etc) isn't new. I almost feel like you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/14 08:00 PM
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I don't follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 07:10 PM
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When men do the AF/BB they want to commit to the hot women. Getting a hot wife is the ideal, but maybe they just aren't good enough to land a wife as hot as they want. When women do the AF/BB thing they want both, they want to mess around with the hot guy and get the beta on the hook to provide, because the hot guy doesn't want to/can't provide [for them]. In short the male version is trying to get the best cake possible (but maybe falling short), while the female version is having two cakes and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 06:46 PM
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I thought this whole discussion was about how they don't see themselves or other men as sluts, but studs instead. You may see them as sluts, but who cares either way? Who cares how they see themselves? Are short women who do not date short men because they aren't viscerally attracted to them "degrading their own people"? And then try to inflict themselves on women who don't approve of casual sex? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 01:29 AM
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Maybe that was the wrong term to use, but I used it as a reflection of this kind of thinking. Its about being more realistic about your options dwindling as you get older, which I think is pretty common knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 01:28 AM
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Well, yeah its not going to matter as you get older. At that point most every one is resigned to "lower quality dating". You can't really expect low partner count at that point. But if you look at the recent /r/askmen thread about that 32 year old woman with little sexual experience, you'll see a lot of guys say what kind of gem she would be. At 20 you're going to "expect"/prefer a hot body (by conventional standards), not so much at 45. At 22 you're going to expect/prefer fewer responsibilities…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 12:35 AM
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Maybe we choose to sort ourselves with people who share our moral standards? That's great. Isn't this the ideal that TBP and TRP can agree on? If TRP doesn't want to be with sluts, why should anyone outside TRP care? What other option is there, force TRPers to marry sluts even if they don't want to? Try to shame them into changing their views?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 10:16 PM
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The one and only reason you feel uncomfortable when you discover your girlfriend has had 50 cocks inside her is because you're insecure. That's your problem, not hers. Well that isn't oversimplifying or biased at all. You're the first ones to cry misandry whenever someone points out that 90% of rapes are perpetrated by men ("Not ALL men are like that!) Statistics show that the majority of rapes are committed by a tiny minority of men (like less than 10%). So not only is "not all men" accurate, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 10:08 PM
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Everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power. - Oscar Wilde - Michael Scott
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 06:51 PM
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When you say polyamorous, do you mean you have multiple lovers or that your lovers have multiple lovers?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 06:22 AM
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I don't think Chamberlain needed to "work" or put any real effort into getting girls -- he was a rich and famous athlete. The becoming the rich and famous was the "work". By this brilliant logic, rockstars should be shamed for fucking scores of groupies because that requires no "work". What? Rockstars didn't work for their success? It's just jealousy, that's all there is to it. Men know that if a woman wants she can rack up an obscene amount of partners relatively easily -- this pisses quite a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 06:14 AM
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Everything that MRAs talk about that men can’t do or are socially punished for arise directly and immediately from misogyny. But enough about your problems, lets talk about my problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 04:20 AM
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Every guy knows there's girls for fun and then there's girls you marry. This is an important part of the whole slut/stud thing. Just like there are the bad boys women have fun with the the good guy chumps they settle with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:38 AM
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Men and women care about different things. In general, men don't seem to care about the education level and wealth of women (at least not to the same degree that women care about the same in a man). So it should be expected that there are things men will care about that women won't. There will always be exceptions of course. Some men will care a great deal about the wealth of a woman, and some women will care about the number of sexual partners a man has had.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:37 AM
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It's not the sexual double standard that I don't get. It's the BS "men have to work for it, and sluts don't that's why they should be shamed and manwhores should be praised" rationalisation that makes no sense to me. I don't get that. I guess it's some bizarre manifestation of work ethic. I don't see whats not to get. The status quo is that men do the pursuing and women are pursued. If a man is a successful in many of his pursuits, then of course other men will praise him - he will be the stud. …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:27 AM
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I don't think so. Having sex for a man and woman is different when it comes to many different things - possibility of becoming pregnant and women have a higher chance of contracting STDs are two examples. To draw out the analogy, it would be like if I was using a vacuum cleaner to clean but another person was using their bare hands to pick up the dirt. Sure, you're both cleaning, but the activity is definitely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 05:20 AM
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No one is asking to be admired. If you don't admire a man for having sex with a lot of women, who cares - its your prerogative. But there are many men who would admire another man like that. Just because it isn't important to you doesn't mean it isn't important to others, and considering how prominent this topic is - I don't think the people who care are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:24 PM
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Yeah, men are sluts too. But men don't care if you call them a slut [in my opinion]. Its basically a compliment. Telling a man he has a lot of sex typically won't hurt his feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:21 PM
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But I don't see too many gay men seeking validation or praise for having sex with men either. Whenever I see posts similar to this on /r/twoxchromosomes it is along the lines of "why are men praised, but women not". Well why would women be praised for it? I feel like gay men know it is relatively easier, and my bisexual friends have informed me it is definitely easier for them to sleep with men, so there is no "why aren't we praised for having sex with men"? There is a term for promiscuous men -…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:20 PM
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I guess you are correct in that sense. I was looking at it more in the sense of comparing Paris Hilton vs Taylor Swift. Paris is derided because she is seen as someone who didn't work to earn what she has, but Taylor is liked because she has the talent to back up what she has. So even if the end result (wealth) is the same, how they reached it has a different reaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:26 AM
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Isn't that a kind of chicken or egg question? Why weren't men restricted in their sexuality? Because testosterone gave them a higher sex drive. Well why did they have a higher unchecked sex drive? Because society didn't restrict it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:20 AM
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You asked a question, I answered it. That's what.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:06 AM
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Okay, I think I understand. So because it happened seven times to the OP he is at fault, but if it only happened once it wouldn't be his fault. Sort of like a "fool me twice, shame on me" sort of thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:02 AM
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How can men be promiscuous without [enthusiastic] consent of those women if they are not rapists? Not to mention the current gender roles have the overwhelming majority of the "first move" being from the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 08:01 AM
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There's no reason to believe that anything that requires "work" is inherently valuable, or praiseworthy; and that anything that's easy or requires little effort is bad. What, are you a Communist? /semi s
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:56 AM
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Testosterone. Gay men say yes to having sex with a lot of men as well. It is really only a problem in heterosexual relationships due to sexual dimorphism. Testosterone creates a huge power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:55 AM
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US courts can and do order paternity tests, all the time. That's not what I said. I said doctors who find out that the child isn't biologically related to the father under another test isn't obligated to tell him so (and the status quo is to not tell him). "The fact is, the overwhelming majority of physicians will not tell a man the truth about PD." You can find other articles that say the same thing. It comes up on /r/til every once in a while. Information about Europe (particularly France and …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:52 AM
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It would still be victim blaming. I think /r/askfeminists would agree. Reasons could be anything: environment, the way she dresses (harhar, black comedy), or misinterpretation of social cues could all contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:42 AM
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Right, thats one of many reasons. But even today, men are not entitled to DNA tests. If a doctor knows the child is biologically related to the father, he is under no obligation to tell him (in fact I think the status quo is to not tell him). Some European countries make them illegal in certain contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:37 AM
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something something enthusiastic consent
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:35 AM
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If that were the cause of why people were upset by sluts, why was slut shaming a thing in the middle ages (religion, disease, etc)? Obviously there isn't a singular reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:33 AM
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Another cause of the shame may be due to the nature of paternity and the fear of paternity fraud.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:29 AM
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Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have slept with 20,000 women. We don't know if it was 20,000, but lets assume it is a very high number. How many of those women do you think Wilt would have remembered? Even the first name? I would say much less than 100. But I tell you what, I bet every single one of those 20,000 women remembered that they had sex with Wilt. What I am trying to say is that it might be hard to get a single specific male celebrity to fuck you. But there are many male celebrities who ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:25 AM
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It's your fault. You're attracting these women for a reason. You're attracting these type of friends for a reason. Victim blaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:58 AM
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Think I came across it on /r/askreddit actually, but I remember it from it being a small sub of less than 10,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:49 AM
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Another aspect of this, that many do not consider is when you consider homosexual activity. Finding a man to have sex with is easier for both gender than it is to find a woman to have sex with. In my opinion, it doesn't matter why - it just is. That same male 5 would have much more success on Grindr than he would on Tinder. That's what I feel a lot of TBP and "anti-slut shaming activists" don't get. It isn't just a case of women having an easier time getting sex, it is anyone who wants to have s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 06:46 AM
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I thought neckbeards didn't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 07:14 PM
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See also: Esther Vilar's The Manipulated Man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 08:45 PM
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Even before I ever found Reddit, I always suspected this kind of behavior for a long time. It really turned me off Asian women (alongside the fact that my primary bullies when I was very young being a group of Asian girls). I am sympathetic to men in those situations, and while I don't particularly like TRP, I can see how those situations would lead them to TRP. Recently, I have come to understand why TRP is so appealing - they seem to be the only ones who are empathetic to them. Everyone else j…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 08:34 PM
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A lot of people do think short men aren't equal to tall man (read: worth less). However, they are still afforded the same rights. But I don't think the OP mentioned anything about not affording them the same rights, OP was just questioning why people though they were equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 12:03 AM
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There is a quote attributed to Socrates that goes, "Once made equal to man, woman becomes his superior." Maybe I'm wrong, but I think this quote means that once women see themselves as "equal" to men, they will actually see themselves as better - because at that point they can "do everything a man does" but also have the inherent value of being a woman (giving birth, sexual access, etc). To me, this kind of presents a problem of gender issues being a zero-sum game. I think TRP approaches this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/14 10:11 PM
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I only came here because /r/thebluepill is a circlejerk without any debate. I find that boring, and the Reddit "hyperbole-as-satire" humor just isn't funny. I wanted to discuss the faults of TRP outside of a place like that. Some bluepillers still come in to circlejerk though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/14 12:44 AM
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I think it is a given that culture influences "game". What is appropriate in one culture is not always appropriate in another. Look at the "10 hours of walking around NYC video". The culture may see "cat-calling" as appropriate. Imagine if the racial backgrounds were different, I think the conversation surrounding the video would be very different - as in, everything shown would be indicative of the patriarchy. Right now, it doesn't seem like that is what the conversation is about, since almost …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/14 03:31 AM
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Nicola Mason, of Holyhead, North Wales, had sex with the boy while her partner John Ford watched getting 'some sort of perverted pleasure', a court heard. Ford was alleged to have encouraged other men to have sex with his partner who he met when she was 18. They denied being 'swingers.' So they are a cuckold couple.
/r/PussyPass23/10/14 08:21 PM
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I always thought it was a case of "grass is greener on the other side". Those emotionally unavailable men may have been available early on, but eventually they got tired of it - ala "for every hot woman, there's a guy sick of fucking her". Then the "emotionally available" guy is just doing what the other did before he got worn out. Those guys were probably "so understanding" because they didn't have to deal with the issues at home. Its much easier to like someone when you aren't as exposed to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 07:55 PM
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Yes, they should be allowed to do so. I would find it much more preferable than a child being raised by a single parent or in a dysfunctional heterosexual home.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/14 06:34 PM
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Women in general receive more support than men in general. Lonely women are just a subset of women, so it makes sense they would have more support than lonely men. Added to the fact is that when something goes wrong for a woman, it is something the world is doing to her. But if something goes wrong for a man, its either something he caused or an obstacle he should be able to surmount.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 09:14 PM
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This one makes the most sense. "Nice guys" devalue themselves in order to get laid, but still don't get laid. "Betas" devalue themselves and don't deserve to get laid. Look at this picture. Is he being a "nice guy" or a "beta"? Who knows? Probably both. But I don't think even the people who hate TRP are going to say he is a redpiller.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/14 02:09 AM
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You sound very young. Are you younger than 20?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 04:37 AM
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I am assuming the first boyfriend was during high school or directly after? You may not see how height adds to anything, but the overwhelming academic literature suggests that height in men is a key determiner of attractiveness for [most] women. In my own experience (and what I have seen in places such as /r/askwomen) at least, the "tall and lanky" (ottermode) is the most sought after body type by women, followed by ripped and strongfat. I don't think financial status growing up matters at all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 03:03 AM
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Holy crap, I honestly did not expect you to read my comment. Does a bot alert your or something when your name is mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 03:00 AM
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In college, I took an interest in "gender critical studies and organizations" due their catchy and blithe sayings like "Feminism is the radical notion that women and people too." So I got more and more into feminism. By the end of my junior year, I was disenchanted. While I can't agree with TRP, my own life experiences line up with some of what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 02:59 AM
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To me personally, that explains it. I didn't even know South European didn't count as white. This situation reminds of the time /u/TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK asked why he had such an easy time with women. And then he let it slip that he was a tall, white, upper middle class, educated guy - and then proceeded to say "it's not like a magic bullet or anything". News flash, that is the magic bullet. Anyway, the fact that your husband is a tall, white, presumably upper middle class dude gives him a signific…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/14 02:33 AM
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I think everything outside of the developed countries can be considered to be red pill or worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 11:47 PM
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It actually makes me sick to say that cause I don't care for looks at all, in fact the hottest guys to me are nerdy, smart guys. Just to make sure, this is in terms of physical and emotional attraction as well right? May I ask how tall the ex- and current husband are? I'm also assuming both men are white. It may sound scummy, but I'm just trying get a bigger picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 10:18 PM
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Do they all think they are alphas? Thats news to me. I thought the whole subreddit was to help to turn men who weren't alphas into alphas.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:33 PM
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Thats just the thing. Think about Wilt Chamberlain. He slept with 20,000 women. Do you think he remembered even the first name of 19,950+ of them? But I am willing to bet all 20,000 remember him. He forgot about them long ago, probably couldn't even remember a thing about those nights. But for those women, I think they will always hold on to that memory. Any woman (of reasonable age) could theoretically claim to have slept with Wilt (or other promiscuous celebrities). How would he remember if he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:28 PM
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I kind of feel sorry for the husband. I know I couldn't do what he is doing (relationship yes, married to her no). I'd rather have a less attractive woman who didn't have that past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:16 PM
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My ex, whom I was engaged to and almost married, would have done anything for us to stay together, however I didn't like how adversarial he was and didn't see it working out long term. Thats exactly the point. These alpha guys were good for the short term, but when it came to the long term you went for the beta instead. I'm not even Red Pill, and I know this is exactly what they say what will happen. You are actually proving their points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:09 PM
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I am considered very good looking. Why are all the women who come to /r/purplepilldebate very good looking? OP and the the troll /u/menaremyslaves used to be models growing up. Are there any women here who are ugly? Back to the topic. This is possible because things like "chubby chasers" are possible. Things outside of the generalizations can happen. Another possibility is that this is only true for now. One day in the future, you may decide to cheat on your beloved nerd - and I would bet anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 09:05 PM
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I hope she has a strap-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:57 PM
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/r/thathappened
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:54 PM
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I'm young, so I don't know yet. But one interesting topic of debate is the whole "MILF craze". I've seen a lot of "bluepillers" use this as evidence that older women are still very attractive. To me, that doesn't make sense. When I view a MILF, I don't find her more physically attractive than a younger woman. What makes her sexually attractive is more mental. A MILF gives the impression of a woman with a voracious appetite. To me, a MILF is someone who shouldn't exist as a sexual being (I know, …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 08:52 PM
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But you are just a troll. /r/thebluepill is just one big self-proclaimed troll circlejerk. I find most associated users can't leave that behind when they go to other subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 05:53 PM
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You have no idea what it's based on, because I haven't told you. sigh I didn't claim to know what you based it on. I said it was a generalization and fact and logic were the things I didn't think were the basis. There is a difference. It may be that women simply balance the importance of character against other important considerations. Don't you think men do this as well? Even to the same degree? So women generally place more importance on character, even when they don't? It just sounds like ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 05:37 PM
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Nah, she tried to use the same argument with me. "I didn't like the points you made, so you must be angry and not someone worthy of debate".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:54 PM
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This is just condescending, but I can accept this may be how you communicate. So you're argument was that women are generally more interested in character than men - which is itself a generalization that doesn't have any basis in facts or logic. But even if that were true, then the common existence of women who enter relationships with men for their money or status, women who enter relationships with men who are abusive or otherwise treat them poorly, or women who enter relationships with men wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:53 PM
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Its hard to convey emotions accurately through comments on Reddit, so I find it amusing you would dismiss points just by saying "calm down". If you don't want to discuss it fine, but to characterize two sentences as a stream of furious, incoherent ranting is just foolish. By this metric, there would be no way to ever bring these topics up (aside from your own accepted standards), because by doing so they would have to be dismissed as illogical or however you characterized it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:43 PM
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This is exactly my point. You're just rationalizing your own principles but ignoring the rationalizations for another's, even though they have the same basis. Most women these days will have a lot of short crappy relationships or one night stands during university for example. They are just becoming adults and exploring. Doesn't mean they won't commit in the future. So why wouldn't they cheat. These relationships apparently don't "matter". Or maybe their relationships were simply short because t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:29 PM
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Sounds about right. So these sugar babies, escorts, and gold diggers are more interested in character? But I guess they don't count since they aren't real relationships. Which must be why women are so adept at avoiding abusive people and very rarely get into abusive relationships [NOT VICTIM BLAMING]. The "assholes get girlfriends" trope must exist because women are so interested in character and not other things like looks, status, and wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:24 PM
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If you use this argument against someone who has simply had a lot of partners in the past, you are assuming they will be unfaithful or bad relationship material in some other way I don't think it is an assumption. If a woman had a lot of one night stands, it isn't an assumption to think she likes casual sex. If a woman had a long string of short relationships, it isn't an assumption to think she didn't want to commit. If a woman participated in group sex, it isn't an assumption to think she like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:15 PM
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That may or may not be true, but it doesn't change the fact that there are still people who want 'nice girls'. Nobody wants 'nice guys'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:08 PM
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But overall yeah I agree with your point, it shouldn't really matter much unless your SO has proven themselves to be unfaithful in the past, that would be the only no-no in terms of sexual history. But one of the arguments that come from that side - "people can change!" - would also refute that statement. The other side likes to argue that it doesn't matter how promiscuous they were in the past, or if they cheated, because it has no bearing on the kind of person they are now. So if you're belief…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:56 PM
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Can we keep this sarcastic "aren't I so funny by being a exaggerated parody" shit on TBP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:53 PM
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I thought that analogy does work. TRP men seem to pine for the women of the "old days". So of course they would want a woman who has opinions and behaviors of "pre-feminism".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:44 PM
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If that is what the definition of 'nice girls' are, then they definitely are in demand. Sugar babies, escorts, gold diggers - they are all successful. Men with a lot of money will get with them even though they know that they are just being "nice" with the intention of getting money. So, there is a demand for "nice girls".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:43 PM
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You're the one who sounds entitled. Why is it okay for women to have a long list of requirements for men, but when men have their own requirements they are the scum of the earth? If men want to have a certain standard for how many partners a woman has had, that is his right. If someone doesn't want you because he thinks you have been too promiscuous, I say more power to him. You go find someone else - sounds like you've given it enough tries. Many women, even women who themselves are short, dema…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 03:38 PM
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I think some would say not being red pill makes others happier at your own expense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:34 AM
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I'm purple, but learning about the red pill has made my life better. At first it just made me realize why my life was bad, then I turned things around. I think thats what the red pill is most useful for - it makes you confront the bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/14 04:32 AM
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I don't understand why gay men or women would need the Red Pill. I thought the Red Pill was needed due to the inherent differences between men and women. So a Red Pill without those inherent gender differences doesn't really make sense. The only way I can see it being needed is if one partner was significantly more masculine and the other was significantly more feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/14 06:24 AM
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People want what they can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/14 07:20 PM
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My mother and aunts have given me a lot of Red Pill advice about women. I'm actually more progressive than them on that front.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:10 AM
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Would you ever consider that maybe you are the reason your son turned out that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/14 06:07 AM
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I'd say my friends in real life are in a 70/30 male:female ratio, maybe as low as 80/20 if we're using stricter definitions of friends. In college it was pretty much 50/50, maybe even slanted to more female friends during college and high school. I'd say my friendships have shaped my view to validate both red pill and blue pill things for me, but currently more red pill than blue pill. In college, I used to identify as a "feminist", now I don't really like that label.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 08:40 PM
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To TRP the subreddit? Probably men aged 18-30, probably middle class, probably American. But high status/power/wealth men aren't going to bother with that subreddit, or any subreddit for that matter. But the TRP "thought" isn't exclusive to the subreddit. Many men all over the world think like them, most even worse. Look at the Middle East, look at China, look at India, look at Eastern Europe, look at Africa. The TRP isn't some new thing - in fact I think it is the oldest lines of thought out th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:23 PM
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No, that's not what I said. What I said is that we can immediately rule out the top percentage of men in regards to certain traits. But those same men can be ruled out of lots of things - would they "need" feminism or the men's rights movement? But that doesn't mean we can just assume TRP is full of the bottom percentage of men. That wouldn't make sense either. Just because they don't contain the top percentage of men, don't mean average guys or excluded, or that they consist solely of the botto…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 06:09 PM
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I very much doubt that the top couple of percent of men in wealth, power, status, or attractiveness would need TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 05:58 PM
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Its equality under the law. Not "human males are equal to human females", in regards to being the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/14 12:28 AM
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I thought the TRP thought (and I think this logic was borrowed from MRAs) was that feminism was creating women who were becoming inferior men. Feminism isn't remolding women into better women, they are remolding women to be inferior men by trying to emulate them in the name of equality. If rigid gender roles are believed, then women aren't inferior to men by virtue of being women (since men would be inferior women), but they were inferior if they tried to do the same things men did.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 08:49 PM
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Women are privileged to be above such criticism. You're offended by the mere suggestion that they're flawed human beings. And since you're conditioned by society to think of them as beyond reproach, when faced with evidence of their nature, you might struggle to describe it - perhaps using words like, "irrational." This resonated with me. Any criticism of women, or a view that may consider that some women may be flawed, is met with a lot of hostility. You will be branded a misogynist or worse. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 08:43 PM
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Of course they "can", and it is already something that is done in the real world. Outside of TRP, a common trope is to multiply the number of men a woman says she has slept with by three. Even on /r/sex, you will hear people say "why ask how many people a woman has slept with? You'll never really know."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 09:22 PM
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I don't know exactly what you are talking about, but I do remember some talk of microchimerism [1]. Male microchimerism was not infrequent in women without sons. Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse. Some people took the last part and just ran with it. I think the argument was that if a woman had sex with a lot of men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 05:51 PM
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From what I have seen on /r/twoxchromosomes, /r/thebluepill, /r/trollxchromosomes, and /r/askwomen, the very fact that men exist that do not like promiscuous women is slut-shaming and has to be dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 04:45 PM
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For me, part of the reason lies in the difference in ease men and women have in finding sexual partners. It is so much easier to hook up with a man. I won't say it is easy for women, period. But I will say, women have an easier time than men. But I don't think the "slut shaming" is based on what gender the person having sex is, I think the "slut shaming" is based on the gender of whom the people the "slut" is having sex with. When I think of a slut, I think of a person with a lot of male sexual …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/14 03:15 PM
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feminists were going to make things better for both men and women, that feminism was about equality The misrepresentation of this is one of the major things that caused me to move away from feminism. It is disingenuous to say feminism also wants to improve things for men. That isn't true, what feminism wants to do [in regards to mens' issues] is a) improve things for men they favor (men who supplicate to feminists, particular members of the LBGT community, particular men of minority ethnic group…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 06:24 AM
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I guess its a different form of intelligence kind of thing. Loki is the trickster, but I doubt people would say he is smarter or as smart as Odin. Probably more of a smart vs wise kind of thing, iunno. It could also be a honor-based thing. Tricking people doesn't have much honor. If you are smarter, but hold to your ethical guns then a trickster could take advantage. Of course, this doesn't make sense in the TRP world because I think they themselves acknowledge they aren't completely ethical. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 04:48 AM
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Do feminists even know who is a feminist? Early in college, I considered myself a feminist. I eventually grew disillusioned. One thing to note, there are so many different "strains" of feminism. Its even divided into waves. Many on /r/twoxchromosomes and /r/askwomen are quick to point out that there is so much diversity in feminism. Any criticism is quickly deflected by saying "oh thats just some feminists, there are many different categories" or "those people aren't even feminists [by how I def…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:41 AM
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Weaker parties oppressing stronger parties is completely possible through "trickery" or "cheating". From what I understand, TRP does accuse those feminists of trickery and cheating. So at least to me, that is consistent. They also seem to regularly claim that women necessarily devise these traits (honor being a male virtue, etc) because they were physically weaker and, presumably, mentally weaker. Oppression isn't necessarily linked to superiority. American slave owners managed to oppress their …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/14 03:36 AM
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Wow, TRP hit 73k? I was aware of TRP since it was a little 500 user sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 10:14 PM
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I'd assume it was a lot higher ('multiply their number by 3, amirite'), and it would decrease her "marriageability" to nearly zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/14 08:26 PM
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From my experience, when women show emotions "loudly exasperating in frustration or angry yelling" usually preludes the crying. On the other hand, I often don't see men brought to tears by how angry they get. I keep getting the feeling that you are trying to create a dichotomy where women cry and men yell, and then say those emotional responses are equal. I think it is obvious that women are just as likely to get angry, but men are not as likely to cry. /r/videos and /r/publicfreakout gets almos…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 03:33 AM
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I'm not sure how much research has been put into this topic, but a quick Google search gave me this. Alongside the societal conditioning explanations, I also found these quotes interesting. Research indicates that testosterone helps raise the threshold between emotional stimulus and the shedding of tears. "It helps put the brakes on," she says. One hormone in tears is prolactin, a lactation catalyst. Just as it helps to produce milk, prolactin also aids in tear production. By the time women reac…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:46 PM
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"Biotruths" tell us that the differences in hormonal chemistry between the genders typically make women more "emotional" than men. Oftentimes the tropes of women on their periods or how they communicate to others is used as tropes to support this viewpoint. But I think socially men are taught to be less emotional. That doesn't mean every single male succeeds in not showing emotion all the time. I do think they may be reprimanded more harshly for showing "feminine" emotions, which may cause them …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 05:27 PM
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I remember an /r/askreddit thread about older men that had a comment stick with me. It went like this: For a husband, the well-being/safety/happiness of his wife comes first, then his children, then himself. For a wife, the well-being/safety/happiness of her children came first, then herself, then her husband. Either way, the husband came in last. I think this was said because wives are more closely tied to their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 08:24 AM
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I wonder what the most hated sub was before TRP (excluding SRS), maybe that will give some clues. For whatever reason, I'm inclined to think it was /r/seduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/14 08:20 AM
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/r/changemyview
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/14 02:53 PM
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Popular answers on /r/askmen are that they never get hit on/approached blah blah. Under those desperate contexts, I think the answers make sense. Of course the more desperate guys are going to prefer sluts - at that point they actually have a shot. I've noticed that kind of thing happening a lot on Reddit (particularly /r/sex) where the women with a lot of partners end up with men with very few partners. This kind of makes sense if you see sluts=male virgins in terms of SMV. Having said that, ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/14 01:35 AM
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Sure, they can both behave the same way and still hate each other. They may even hate each other because they behave so similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:54 PM
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Its too dogmatic. It uses cringey jargon. Its too idealistic and sometimes bends reality to suit wishful thinking. Too much of the thinking there is muddled by rage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:49 PM
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If you simply search for "where have all the good men gone?!" you will see that the people saying it are predominantly women. [1][2][3]
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 08:21 AM
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I'd say the majority of the world is actually Red Pill-like. Many developing countries have predominantly "Red Pill" thinking. Even some developed countries have heavy "Red Pill" thinking. I'd go so far as to say, compared to many, many places in the world, "TRP" is relatively progressive in gender issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 08:16 AM
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No matter how "bad" a woman is, there will always be some guy willing to fuck her. Some guys are desperate enough to fuck that they will commit to a relationship to ensure they keep getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 07:38 PM
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If they don't want to use it, they don't have to use it. Maybe some women would like to use them. I like to use locks, and no one has forced me to use them. But I can also kind of see their argument. I don't want my food to be poisoned, and it shouldn't be my responsibility to test every piece of food for poison. Nobody should poison my food in the first place. But if there were an easy way to prevent food poisoning I would go ahead and use it if food poisoning were as pervasive as some feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 05:07 PM
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I think they think the goal of slut walks is they make being a slut commonplace and accepted, more people will become sluts because its "easier", and then there won't be any "good girls" left, so the only women left to be married by default will be sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 05:28 AM
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IMO, getting yourself into a position where you're faced with a false rape accusation requires a very specific set of dumb choices. How do you figure? Conor Oberst didn't even know the woman who lied about being raped by him. What was Brian Banks' fault in his case? Also, isn't this kind of victim blaming?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 05:29 PM
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There are multiple different ways. But we can look at a couple of case examples. In this recent AMA, the benefit for the woman was presumably revenge and the winning hand in a divorce, with no retaliation for her. Other known cases, such as that of Wanetta Gibson, is a monetary benefit. Another possible reason is attention-seeking or sympathy-seeking behavior, as seen in the Conor Oberst situation. There isn't just one single reason for false rape accusations, or one single benefit from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 05:27 PM
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I've never seen a false rape accusation in my lifetime at any of the 3/4 colleges I've either been to or lived by or in the army. How would you know if the accusations made were false if the accuser got away with his/her lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/14 05:12 PM
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Sex tourism isn't unique to men (preemptively saying that I know you weren't saying that, I know how TBP gets defensive). From my personal experience in an African country known for sex tourism: because women have an easier time finding male partners (I know, its taboo to say it in some circles), it is actually surprisingly common. I have female friends who engaged in a lot of sex tourism while we were in the country for only a few months. Outside of my friends at the time, there were volunteer …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/14 01:43 AM
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For some, it is. It may not be your perspective, but the "feminists hate men" trope isn't something TRP made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 10:09 PM
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That's like a red piller saying they don't hate women. The "feminists hate men" isn't endemic to Reddit. If the outside perspective is that that happens, then I think it is a valid concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 09:39 PM
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Which part? That they don't want a beta provider? I guess the alpha provider would be the ideal - but that goes beyond TRP. Hot, successful, and willing to stick around is the mainstream ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 07:09 AM
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I didn't know TRP said BP men can't attract women, I thought that it was that they would be taken advantage of. The whole "alpha fux, beta bux" thing says women want both, and women will want the beta after going through a bunch of alphas (if she can), or will eventually cheat on the beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 05:12 AM
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It's definitely a thinker, especially when you take into account that many indigenous societies were rather egalitarian. What? Is there anything I can read (besides the Sex at Dawn crap) that gives some arguments for how primitive cultures were overall more egalitarian than modern society?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 01:17 AM
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So all a kidnapper or rapist has to do is buy a Lambo?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 09:53 PM
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I think it rises from certain correlations between single motherhood and poverty, antisocial behavior, and culture. Others may have a more visceral hatred due to having been a part of one in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 09:29 PM
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How is that even possible? Did he start lifting very recently, and you have been doing it a while?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/14 01:51 AM
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Draws attention to them. And, in my opinion, makes it seem like the people who are critical of TRP to be hysterical and "Tumblr-like" (abrasive).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 03:30 AM
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I thought their motive was to not be taken advantage of by women, but I may be wrong. I see a sort of "fight back" mentality in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/14 10:11 PM
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Are you asking for permission to be a doormat?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:34 AM
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I dislike The Red Pill, so I went to participate in The Blue Pill. The experience left me leaning towards The Red Pill. In my opinion, places like The Blue Pill do more good for The Red Pill than bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/14 01:32 AM
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I'm not either. But even if I was involved in either one of those, I don't think they would have damaged anything. The only "damage", if you can call it that, I have had after learning about PUA and TRP is losing the "ignorance is bliss" feeling after learning more about women and relationships. I've lost the "women are wonderful" effect I feel I was conditioned to have from a young age.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 12:47 AM
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I think the biggest issue is having different, sometimes contrasting, views for the same concepts. I think, in general, [and at least socially/culturally] men and women have different viewpoints on what it means to be loyal, satisfied, kind, etc. This leads to people behaving in a way they want to be treated, but the other side not liking it, and then both sides upset that they are giving what they want from the other partner but not receiving it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 10:29 AM
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Well, concepts such as common law marriage and "palimony" are kind of "forcing you to be married", or at least forcing the disadvantages of divorce on people who don't want to get married. The alternatives are being slowly reduced to MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 12:41 AM
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Yea, I don't think the numbers are as clear cut as 80/20. I do think that what is happening is that people are using 80/20 are shorthand for the Bateman Principle. I don't think the numbers have that big of a gap, but I do think that there is a gap in "access" to sex between the genders. My view is closer aligned to this post, which uses the same data as the hookingupsmart place.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 07:06 AM
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What would it take to convince you? I don't understand what the standard for evidence is in regards to your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:44 AM
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You are arguinging for the disparity. The men who do sleep around have higher partner counts, while women have lower counts because they sleep with a smaller (more exclusive) group of men. 80/20 aren't exact numbers. I think it was used due to the Pareto Principle. What it is trying to get across is a small pool of men have sex with a large pool of women. But also they are having sex at a higher frequency. Did you read any of the things I linked, or look at the things I mentioned? What is your r…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:33 AM
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No it doesn't. That is conflating things. It doesn't mean no men have standards, just that range of standards that men have go lower. Or that men are more likely to drop their standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:23 AM
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In what way? The "evidence" I have heard mentioned for it include the Bateman Principle, parental investment, and difference in "age" between Y-Chromosome Adam and Mitochondrial Eve.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:21 AM
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I thought it was 20% of men have 80% of the sex. This is the first link that popped up. > Data from American colleges show 20 per cent of males - the most attractive ones - get 80 per cent of the sex, according to an analysis by Susan Walsh, a former management consultant who wrote about the issue on her dating website, hookingupsmart.com.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 06:18 AM
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The same way some women can get hundreds of men to sleep with them. No way. There have to be differences. For one, prostitution is heavily dominated by men. A male prostitute would most likely only get male Johns. Outside of prostitution, even places like swingers clubs heavily favor women. I would bet in most cases of swinging, the female participants have way more partners than male partners. Aside from those extremes, I think most college aged women (who wanted to be promiscuous) would be muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 01:34 AM
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One of those links also says this: "Also, the higher rate of women initiators is probably due to the fact that men are more likely to be "badly behaved." Husbands, for example, are more likely than wives to have problems with drinking, drug abuse, and infidelity." But rates of divorce in lesbian couples is twice that of gay couples. The constant seems to be that marriages with women carry a high risk of divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 07:51 AM
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Do you think, from his point of view, you were manipulating him? Or somehow controlling his sexuality, like you may feel he was doing to you? Answered already I think Its interesting that you are the LL partner and also think "It is better for both people if they can seek someone who really fulfills their desires, rather than stay out of obligation." Do you think this relationship is sustainable? From my perspective, it is clear that your libidos do not match us. Going by what I learned on /r/se…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 08:30 PM
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If you were unhappy, and he was unhappy with his sex life, how would you have wanted for him to have the situation? What was/is your contribution to "fixing" the issue? What do you think of /r/deadbedrooms types of situations, as well as infidelity sue to a lack of sexual fulfillment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/14 07:43 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 08:22 AM
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Women are currently in a unique position, we are told that we are sluts and prudes at the same time. And what it boils down to is that if we are selective (because we are told to hold out for Mr. Right not Mr. Right Now), we are shamed or pressured into sex, if we have sex, then we are plagued with the notion that our future mate or potential future mates will find us undesirable. Society is the gatekeeper to sex. Society is because it tells men to get around and tells women if they get around t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/14 04:35 AM
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Red Pill singing Gold Digger, Blue Pill women singing Run the World (Girls), Blue Pill men singing some shitty Bruno Mars song. EDIT: On second thought maybe Loyal would be a better choice for the Red Pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 07:02 AM
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For example, in my city there's more young single women than men, so women are "in demand" and are more "valuable". I just think that TRP takes it too far and applies "sex theory" to literally every single human interaction. Do you mean there are more single men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 06:44 PM
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No kidding. Here is another one from just yesterday. Almost invariably, it is a wife cheating on her husband - not a single teacher.
/r/PussyPass05/06/14 02:16 AM
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Wow, her life is a lie. From Wikipedia: Mam had long claimed that the teenager was kidnapped and suffered serious abuse at the hands of human traffickers in retaliation for her raid on the Chai Hour II Hotel. In her 2007 autobiography, Mam wrote that the people involved in the kidnapping of her daughter were released from jail, though a trial was pending. Legros said their daughter was not kidnapped, but had run away with her boyfriend, and that in his view the abduction story was a means to "ma…
/r/PussyPass04/06/14 07:46 PM
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He in no way tried to "become like those people", aside from simply having what they have. I saw a couple of his posts on the bodybuilding site - he wanted nothing to do with bodybuilding. Wouldn't lift, talked disparagingly about people who did lift, and was mocked by almost everyone when he posted in the forum. He saw himself as above "those people" and didn't want to become them. In my opinion, he sincerely thought that everyone else was simply wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 03:25 AM
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He had a licensed professional - a well known one at that: Dr. Charles Sophy. Obviously didn't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 03:23 AM
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guy who wants to have lots of casual sex is a stud. That's not the same. /u/pillburt said a woman decides that she wants to fuck as many guys as she wants: slut A guy that decides that he wants to fuck as many guys as he wants is not called a stud. In fact, many cultures demonize them. A man who has sex with a lot of women is a stud, a woman who has sex with a lot of women is not called a slut. She is looked upon favorably.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 01:59 AM
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To me it boils down to my perception that it is a lot easier to get with guys than it is to get with girls. I'm not attractive conventionally speaking, but even I could easily get a "high partner count" if I chose to have sex with men (judging from my experiences in gay bars and such). But I never would, no matter how hard up I was for sex. And the amount of men who would have sex with women is way higher than the amount of men who would have sex with men. Its not that I dislike a girl who had a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/14 08:45 AM
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Nobody said it was though, and I looked at the top comments. If you are accused by a woman of a sexual offense you are guilty until proven innocent. Which is true, he was accused of voyeurism. Wasn't arrested for it, but was accused. Otherwise he'd be facing charges and his life would be over, all because one semi-attractive woman's lies. Nothing about arrest for sexual assault. But this poster is right, the woman's lies could have gotten him unjustly imprisoned. Third post is sharing an anecdot…
/r/PussyPass13/04/14 12:40 AM
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A lawyer and former radio host who accused a taxi driver of aiming a video camera under her dress last year, then trying to extort her with the footage, now faces a count of making false statements about the incident. He was accused of voyeurism - which falls under the umbrella of sexual assault. But obviously, all you want is false outrage.
/r/PussyPass13/04/14 12:15 AM
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Farrell argues police bought Gaubert’s story and issued a warrant for his arrest without checking it out, never questioning him. He claims he spent more than 27 hours in jail following his arrest and was forced to post a $21,000 bond and surrender his taxi permit pending an investigation. The city’s Taxicab Bureau got involved, and Farrell became the subject of widespread media coverage, suffering depression and emotional distress, the lawsuit states. “Despite knowing that the information she ha…
/r/PussyPass12/04/14 11:26 PM
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Is there a source for this? Wikipedia says he has "partial vindication" in modern times - meaning he was right on some cases, not most. A lot of historians contend that even if he was right on some cases, he did more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/14 02:29 AM
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Maybe it has something to do with violent crimes in general decreasing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 08:46 PM
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This is pretty much my story too. Was really interested in gender issues and feminism in high school and college (still in college) - until I realized I was not happy with the way things were going.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/14 05:54 PM
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lol wut If you look at studies you will see white men are preferred by women of nearly every race (by some groups even more exclusively than white women). Next you have tall, its no secret that gives you a massive advantage. Go to /r/short to see the details. I am assuming you have a middle class or upper middle class background? Yeah, big surprise you're doing well. You're the "standard", its not nearly as easy for the rest of us. I think the word you are looking for starts with a "p" and rhyme…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/14 06:37 AM
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