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I think you're reading that wrong; the graph shows the percentage of women who find that size acceptable. 7' is actually down a lot from the peak at 6'6" which is acceptable to 90% of women. So it looks like the best height is 6'6" (which is already extremely tall, obviously), after it becomes detrimental. Though at 7 foot, you're still more acceptable than at 5'11".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 10:19 PM
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You can't meet people inside. You can't meet them outside either, but you can't meet them inside too. — Mitch Hedberg, probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/22 06:03 PM
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Yes, you can gerrymander the definition of "mass shooting" to exclude the sort of violence that Black people tend to commit (gang violence and drive by's), but that's part of the problem: people have a preconceived notion of what a mass shooting looks like, including that it has a white perpetrator, and when the facts don't fit that notion they will say it doesn't really count. At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if you get killed in a "mass shooting" or "drive by"; you're still dead.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 02:47 PM
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If you are a hetero male you are assessing guys for how much you would enjoy hanging out with them at the pub or whatever environment equates to the pub for you. I mean, I'm comparing their photos to men I see on the streets around me every day. And that's fine but what men show and project to you at the pub is nothing like what they show and project to women they are trying to fuck. Oh, I'm well aware of this, but the OKCupid results are solely based on women rating men's photos (and vice versa…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:55 AM
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You went off on a tangent and didn't really address my reply. You wrote: Men who are above average spend less time actively on the market than men who are below average. I pointed out that the same applies to women. After all, why are the above-average men off the market? Because they're paired up with above-average women. So now the argument changed to: it's not so much the lack of high-value males, but the overabundance of low-value males that causes the differences in evalution. Okay, seems p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 12:21 AM
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Men who are above average spend less time actively on the market than men who are below average. This is true but wouldn't you expect the same for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 11:00 PM
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It should be illegal to put "Bayesian" in your username when you are this bad at math.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 10:51 PM
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Which is why most mass shooters are white guys. Are you sure about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 05:02 PM
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Never said it didn't. It seems like you didn't follow the structure of the argument. I was responding to your claim that the amount of whining on 2XC proves "how unfair this world is to women". It doesn't. If whining were evidence of oppression, incels would be the most oppressed people in the world. If anything, whining is a sign of privilege. You see more American women whining about online dating than Afghan women whining about getting beaten up by their husband. That's because the women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/22 02:16 PM
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I just took a look at a few of the most recent posts on 2XC. https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/vr93kr/dating_as_a_black_woman_and_my_recent_experience/ My (f22) dating experience as a black woman who is dark skin with kinky hair kinda sucks. in the recent years I started to date interracially because experiences of dating within my own race has been worse than dating outside sadly Black girl who refuses to date black men complains about how hard it is to date as a black person. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/22 03:11 PM
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I'm not going to argue with you over this anymore since you're just making me run in circles, but if you don't believe, just go on r/twoxchromosomes for like 1 minute, and you'll see just how unfair this world is to women. That just shows how much women like to whine about their problems. Men like to whine about their problems too, but Reddit bans all subreddits where men whine about women. Would you say the vitriol on /r/Incels was evidence of how hard men have it? If not, why do you expect me …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 09:30 PM
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You act as if women are the ones going around killing all these people. No I didn't. I was responding to your claim that women are treated worse, up to and included being genocided more, than men. Victimization statistics prove this wrong. Men overwhelmingly dominate violence statistics in this world. Yes, but that wasn't the argument you were making. I wouldn't have replied if that was what you wrote. But it wasn't. This is because women have to educate themselves in order to be taken seriously…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:36 PM
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Fine, but the point was that women can easily turn that desire into fun dates. Of course those doesn't always lead to long-lasting relationships for women either, but the dating process is more fun for women who don't have to solicit as much, don't have to deal with rejections, and aren't expected to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:12 PM
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First of all, this topic is obviously about dating in the western world. I'm sure the reality looks much different for people living in Afghanistan. Second, you seem woefully misinformed about reality. They are kept in strict gender roles and dont get to enjoy getting an education and a life in the majority of the world. Nope, that's outdated. See: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1212278/education-gender-gap-worldwide-by-level/ Worldwide, there is a tiny advantage for men in primary educatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/22 08:06 PM
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They work great for women, who are in demand. They work terribly for men, who aren't in demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/22 03:05 AM
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I don't think this is true. I think women on Reddit are more normal than men on Reddit because women are more normal on average. Men tend to have more extreme and more varied hobbies. Some men spend all their free time in the gym, others like to tinker with cars, others start a band, others play video games, others spend all their time on Reddit. These groups tend to have little overlap; the car-tinkerers don't comment on Reddit, band members don't play a lot of video games, and so on. Women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/22 01:07 PM
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And... now you're debasing yourself by making personal accusations. It's ridiculous. You still haven't made a single argument that counters any of mine. You're basically "Woman: the Meme", completely out of touch with reality. Honestly I don't even blame you: you receive constant attention from men, so the natural assumption is that men receive equal attention from women. Unfortunately, that's just not how the world works. Just consider the term "BBW" which you mentioned: there is no equivalent …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 04:09 AM
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All of these sound female hampstering to me. You're not countering any of my points at all, just repeating the same unfounded platitudes. I know men who would consider Jennifer Lawrence a “plain white woman” in real life because they’re into more ethnic features. Perhaps, but if you look like Jennifer Lawrence there are orders of magnitudes more men who are into you than if you're a frumpy black woman. There’s men who actually PREFER BBWs over fit women. Yes, but there are orders of magnitude mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:52 AM
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I didn't claim men are into fat divorced women. You claimed women are into fat balding men. I think neither of these people are into each other which is why they're miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:39 AM
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So you admit you don't have data on the ratio of fat balding men vs woman who are into fat balding men? So you admit the ratio could easily be 100:1 and that means 99% of fat balding men are doomed to be alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:34 AM
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You completely dodged all of my questions. Based on your responses I'm guessing you're female. It's common for women to dismiss men's dating woes based on completely unrealistic statistics like this. It makes me think women generally aren't capable of rational thought at all, just rationalizing based on their feelings. Btw my brothers fat with a hot wife. But he’s dad bod fat not morbidly obese fat. Oh this 1 person out of 7 billion in the world completely disproved everything. Because your fat …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:30 AM
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Same goes for women - some women are into dad bods. Some have a preference for gamer dudes. This is such a cope. What's the ratio of women who love dad bods to men with dad bods? What's the ratio of gamer dudes to women who prefer gamer dudes? Without those figures this statement is meaningless. Yeah, there might be some women who are into depressed overweight balding pieces of fucking shit. But if the ratio is 1 in 10,000 (as it's likely to be) then if you're a depressed overweight balding piec…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/22 03:21 AM
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Your insults are getting boring. The problem isn't so much that you called me dumb. The problem is that I don't even believe that you think I'm dumb. Obnoxious, belligerent, presumptuous? Sure. But not dumb. So who is this insult directed at? Neither of us believes it. The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually seized or destroyed by the intolerant. I'm familiar with the paradox of tolerance. It's very similar to the Nazi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 10:43 PM
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Your insults aren't all that meaningful if you refuse to explain how my arguments are fallacious or to defend your own. As it is, you just sound extremely mad that I pointed out flaws in your reasoning. I feel like I've basically won the argument, but I still feel sad about the whole interaction. I bet you imagine yourself to be a kind and tolerant person. Yet when I asked you to show some kindness towards people you don't instinctively like you had a complete meltdown and resorted to name calli…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 09:20 PM
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Strawman+false equivalence fallacies are all you got. That and not understanding what cognitive dissonance is or subsumed. It would be nice if these kind of personal attacks were substantiated with arguments. You're just a bad cook and your cat secretly hates you! See, it's easy to say mean things to people on the internet without the burden of evidence. Religious group with 1.8 billion practitioners is the same as incel's? Wat. Did you think that was a genuinely smart thing to say? Of course th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 08:24 PM
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The creator abandoned it because of the hateful men who took over her community in the first place. The Eliott Rogers of the world ended it. The fact the community is now linked to multiple mass murders. Not because of people reacting to these awful mens beliefs and actions. That's beyond stupid. No, Elliot Rodger just provides a convenient excuse to justify the hatred of incels. Violent extremists are a tiny minority of the incel community; why should the whole community be condemned because of…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 05:59 PM
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I don't view someone who isn't having sex as a loser Nobody thinks of themselves as a bad person. I don't see color. I don't care about looks. I don't care about social status. I don't look down on unattractive men. I'm a good person. This is a bit of a tangent, but I feel like making claims like this online is pointless. It's literally impossible to verify if it's true about you personally, and even if it is, you could be the exception to the rule. I'd rather focus on general trends. Someone ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 03:51 PM
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The problem with "not sexually active" (besides the obvious fact that it isn't the term incels are using for themselves), is that it doesn't distinguish between people who are voluntarily and involuntarily sexually inactive. You know, the "in" in "incel". It's a rather important qualification. It's why /r/asexual is a very different place than /r/incels ever was (before it got banned). You should ask yourself why you are taking a term that literally means "involuntarily celibate" and then use it…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/22 12:45 PM
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I'm sure you're rejected sometimes, especially if you're trying to punch above your weight. Getting rejected is the norm when approaching people; what do you think approach is like for men? The scenario where a man would have approached a woman but is turned off by her making the first move is extremely rare. If your advances are rejected, in all likelihood he wasn't into you to begin with. Again, women tell themselves that men don't like being approached to protect their ego. At least men accep…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/22 01:15 PM
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I just told you the opposite. Men love getting approached by women in their league. Will you now change your mind? Or are you going to maintain the lie because it gives you an excuse to remain passive. You labeled yourself as blue pill. Of course you're going to willfully believe lies to make yourself feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:41 PM
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That's nonsense made up by women who can't bear to admit they have the upper hand in the dating game. They'll say anything so they won't have to admit they love being choosers rather than chasers. By the way, it's funny that you say this nonsense is said "often by men" but here on Reddit I only hear it from women like yourself, despite Reddit being 95% male. That goes to show that it's just women who believe this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:38 PM
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But if women don't ask people out, they can't pick. Women always have the option to ask men out. If they don't, it's because they'd prefer to have men come to them. Q.E.D.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/22 11:26 PM
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War was an equalizer of chances between attractive and unattractive men. Both had a chance of dying, but the survivors would have a higher chance of finding a mate due to a shortage of males. In the current situation, unattractive men are mostly doomed with little chance to improve their odds, while attractive men no longer need to risk death. This is a strict improvement for attractive men only.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/22 12:03 PM
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It's easy to focus on the weirdos, but half of the people in that photo look fairly normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 10:18 AM
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This is just not true. So many women complain about unwanted male attention when they are wearing baggy clothes etc. which shows that women get attention from men no matter what they do. The reason women dress up sexily is because they're competing with other women for the attention of Chad. So their revealed preference is that they'd rather be a sex object than be ignored by Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/22 01:00 AM
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Good luck trying to change human nature during your lifetime.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 11:18 PM
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How? What odds? You just said "nice [is] not guaranteed to be nice" Just because it isn't guaranteed doesn't mean the odds are the same. I honestly don't understand what's not to get here. The name of the game is to find a guy that will protect you from the various dangers posed by other guys without turning on you. I'm sure that's how women's instincts developed originally. The problem is that in the modern world strange men are much less dangerous to women than they used to be. So the strategy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:35 PM
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Most abusers are not identifiable by their publicly known actions. That's true, but that's not a good reason to date a known abuser instead! People who are known abusers are more likely to be abusers than people who are not known abusers, all else being equal. Still, when given the choice between abusers and boring “nice guys”, women will overwhelmingly prefer abusers, despite the fact that the known abusers are more likely to be abusive than the nice guys. This proves that for women, whether a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:16 PM
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Yeah. Did, um, you miss that paragraph? ;) I did not miss it. The premise is false. I was talking about men who demonstrated by their publicly-known actions that they are not nice, for example by being convicted of rape, murder, sexual or physical abuse. These men are still more successful than boring nice guys. If a convicted rapist seems nice to you it's not because he's a master deceiver. It's because you're fucking stupid. Of course boring nice guys aren't guaranteed to be nice either. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:29 PM
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Yeah. Did, um, you miss that paragraph? ;) I did not miss it. The premise is false. I was talking about men who demonstrated by their publicly-known actions that they are not nice, for example by being convicted of rape, murder, sexual or physical abuse. These men are still more successful than boring nice guys. If a convicted rapist seems nice to you it's not because he's a master deceiver. It's because you're fucking stupid. Of course boring nice guys aren't guaranteed to be nice either. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:22 PM
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Yeah. Did, um, you miss that paragraph? ;) I did not miss it. The premise is false. I was talking about men who demonstrated by their publicly-known actions that they are not nice, for example by being convicted of rape, murder, sexual or physical abuse. These men are still more successful than boring nice guys. If a convicted rapist seems nice to you it's not because he's a master deceiver. It's because you're fucking stupid. Of course boring nice guys aren't guaranteed to be nice either. But t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 09:20 PM
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An abuser may have other desirable traits beyond "absence of boringness and of ugliness" Fine, but if we agree that abusing women is not nice then we agree: women don't care if a man is nice. They just care that he has "desirable traits" (including but not limited to being handsome and exciting) and being nice doesn't matter. That was my point all along. Women barely care if men are nice. Nothing you wrote contradicts that. Oh a bunch of people I hardly know - and/or who have hardly demonstrated…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 08:05 PM
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You wrote: Why are you upset with the women who are manipulated and not the manipulative, abusive men? which, assuming you didn't know the person you replied to personally, I interpreted as a more general statement: "why are [men] not upset with manipulative abusive men?" That's blaming the men that women reject for the bad behavior of the men that women chose over them. This makes no logical sense (but that's par for the course for women). There are two morally consistent options: Men get to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 12:18 AM
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So your only "proof" is one instance? Dude, there are literally millions of cases of women throwing themselves at the feet of abusers. It's so common it doesn't even get reported anymore. Read up on all the convicted rapists and murderers in prison that receive love letters from crazy women. By your logic, men must love shitty abusive women because Depp married Heard. If we're using the OJ case, men love to fuck women married to potential murderers. No, men like hot women like Amber Heard. They …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:46 PM
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Is water wet? Is the sky blue? Is grass green? Please give me sources for these outrageous claims and then I'll give you a source for the truly surprising fact that all other things equal, assertive men are more successful with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:38 PM
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How is that misconstruction? Women do like bad boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:34 PM
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It cannot surprise you that people are more accepting of individuals they find attractive. Apparently it surprised OP, or what is even the point of this post? A hot asf girl can be dumb as shit, no degree, no decent job, and have a neverending line of dudes trying to lock her down. The difference is that men aren't saying “we dislike dumb, uneducated, unemployed women”; everybody knows men don't care about any of that as long as the girl is hot. It's women who are lying about their preferences f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 11:17 PM
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The problem with this narrative is that it's simply not true. A lot of men are known to be abusers and generally horrible people and still get attention from women as long as they're not boring and/or ugly. There are countless stories of convicted terrorists, rapists, murderers etc. regularly get love letters from women in prison. Boring, ugly nice guys never get any attention whatsoever. And I know what you're saying: most women aren't writing love letters to convicted rapists, and that's true.…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 10:27 PM
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You're getting downvoted because you're posting incomprehensible gibberish, then follow that up with whining about downvotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 10:45 PM
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She didn't say that was how she felt, only that that is how she believes many other women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:39 PM
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I cannot possibly verify all of that. It's possible you're outside the norm; you're posting on Reddit, after all. That being said, if you only got ghosted once in your life (and by a multimillionaire, no less) I don't think you can appreciate the male perspective on the topic of feeling neglected and unappreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 11:08 PM
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Like most women, you're probably pursuing men above your SMV, and these men (correctly) think they can do better than you, so they're not eager to commit or put effort into maintaining their relationship with you. The situation would be different if you showed affection to men at or below you SMV, but you wouldn't, because it's in women's nature to not be attracted to men at their own level.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:56 PM
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No, they only do that when the man is unattractive. When the man is attractive to the girl he approaches, she'll let him ignore her friends, rather than send him away out of loyalty to her sisters. If it was different, the problem in the original post wouldn't even exist: men who don't pay attention to ugly girls would just be shut down by girl groups all the time, and they'd change their strategy. That's clearly not what happens in reality. In reality, once you have approval from the more attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:29 PM
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You didn't say it explicitly in your original post, but you did reply that “[women treat ugly men] better than men generally treat ugly women” which I'm not sure is really true, at least not if you generalize “ugly” to “unattractive” (for women, attractiveness is mostly about physical beauty, while for men, it also includes other attributes like social status, physical strength, political power, wealth, etc.) If you're an unattractive man you'll be ignored by women for basically your entire life…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:56 PM
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So...in my case, the men are the problem and in your case, the men are the problem? Not really? In your case, the women could involve their less attractive friends in the conversation, or tell the men to fuck off. In my case, the women could also involve the less attractive men in the conversation. Women rarely do either. The problem only exists because both men and women are happy to ignore their less attractive peers. That's not on men alone. Why are you complaining about women if your own fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:30 PM
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That's interesting because you are literally describing my experience as an unattractive male in same-sex vs mixed-sex groups. A group of guys can be talking about male interests like formula 1 or video games, but as soon as a bunch of girls join, two things happen: first, the topic has to change because you can't talk about something that's boring to the girls, second, the (wannabe) alpha males of the group will focus their attention on the girls, engaging them in conversation while ignoring th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 01:21 PM
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Men, generally speaking, treat ugly women either terribly or like they're non-existent (again this is personal experience going out with friends to clubs and whatnot), like won't even acknowledge their presence. Guys (even ugly ones) have come over to our group and will chat up the pretty girls while completely disregarding and ignoring (like not even saying hello or introducing themselves) to the rest of us. This is such a typical female perspective. How do you think women treat ugly men? That'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:28 AM

Sure, and a billionaire won't bend over to pick up a ten dollar bill. The point being made is that in the dating market, women have it better than men at every percentile of attractiveness. Sure, ugly women do worse than beautiful ones, but they still beat their ugly male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/21 10:33 PM
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Can you please learn English. What is this gibberish?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 11:38 PM
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Why are you replying to this comment while ignoring every single word written in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 12:54 AM
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First, studies like this are the poster child for correlation ≠ causation. It's interesting data but you can't really draw any conclusions about causal effects from just this. For example, the paper only controlled for combined household income, but it stands to reason that double-earners have higher household income than single-earners, so if having a higher household income decreases anxiety, then that alone would explain the observations. Second, the journalist misstated the conclusion entire…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 01:24 PM
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Before online dating became the norm, most people didn't pick up their life partner in a bar, but instead met them through friends, at work, in church, or at a sports club. Of course when you first meet someone in a setting like that, you will still notice whether they're physically attractive, but that's not the only reason why you're there, so even if you're not immediately attracted to them, you'll continue to interact with them. Then you might find that the person that you thought was hot is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/20 07:31 PM
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You're not obligated to reply to my comments. But I don't think you addressed or accepted the point that status differences in relationships are created by women selecting for higher-value men, rather than by men devaluing women's contributions. (By the way, if you're going to reply just to say you addressed a point elsewhere, it's helpful to include a link to the specific comment you are talking about.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:33 PM
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A profession does not inherently denote worth overall. Nobody said it did. It's just one example of something that women tend to value highly in men. If it's true that women prefer men who advance their careers over men who know how to fold laundry, then it shouldn't be surprising that women find themselves in relationships where men are more career-focused and less interested in doing housework. In such a relationship the man isn't superior by some universal metric; only by the woman's own metr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:49 PM
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So, you’re saying the woman has less status and that’s why she’s staying at home in the first place? That doesn’t make things better - in fact, it implies the woman is simply inferior just because. That’s not the type of relationship anyone wants to be in. I think the thesis is that women intentionally select for men with higher occupational status than themselves, thus perpetuating the situation that they complain about. She's the “inferior” one only because if he wasn't her “superior” she woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 04:36 PM
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The real answer, as always, is heart disease and stroke. That’s the leading cause of death for everyone. Those risks increase greatly with age, though, while pregnant women obviously tend to be young.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/20 05:26 PM
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You have this backwards. The top X% women date the top X% men. The next Y% of women don't want to hook up with the next Y% of men, but lust after the top X% too. So the top X% men get to sleep around with those single women too. So we end up with the top men cheating, lots of women having sex with partnered men, and lots of single men going without. This is obviously a bit exaggerated, but it does explain how it's possible that more men than women cheat on their partner. The causes are female hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:45 PM
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I suspect your premise, that there are more women than men active on those subreddits, is wrong. First, the majority of redditors are men, who tend to upvote posts by women more, especially on sex-related topics. So women's posts tend to have a disproportionate representation on the frontpage of the subreddit. This effect may reinforce itself: women are encouraged to post more since their posts receive more attention. (For an extreme example of this, compare https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewild/ wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 12:27 PM
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There is no 'fair' or 'unfair' the market controls itself, things just are, unless you think that it is unfair that you get to eat rice while a millionaire gets to eat caviar. A lot of people find that unfair, too. Especially when the rice-eating person demonstrably works much harder than the millionaire (think: Foxconn employee vs Snooki).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/20 04:41 PM
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The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. -- Elie Wiesel
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/20 02:19 PM
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Inara is a licensed companion, which is a formally trained, well-respected kind of prostitute (think: a high-end escort). But there are also regular prostitutes in the Firefly universe; they appear in the episode Heart of Gold, for example. They service men that can't afford the services of a licensed companion. It stands to reason that the majority of sex work is done by these prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/19 02:09 AM
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A comment you made a year ago that got 15 upvotes proves you're right about everything...? OK. You convinced me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 10:49 PM
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I am not going to argue or explain male privilege and how that intersects and diverges from white privilege to you. And we're all very grateful for that. I am absolutely not confusing RP with seduction. Of course you believe that, but your commentary says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 10:28 PM
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I would argue these men still benefit from male privilege they don’t benefit from halo effect or racial privilege though. Male privilege isn't real. Or phrased differently: white women are way more "privileged" than, say, Indian males in Western society. Part of the blue pill is the willful denial of this fact. I think BPers are imagining the RP base as it started as it is intended to be: average, MC, white men who want to have lots of sex with pretty, thin, young, white women. There are a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/19 10:06 PM
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Those graphs are about men only. Poor men are less likely to marry? What a shocker. For women, it's the other way around. From your own source: poor women are more likely to marry and more likely to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/19 05:12 PM
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Find a random news article from a clickbait website Although the Daily Mail is trash, it's citing an article from the Washington Post, which isn't. If you had read the linked article you'd have seen that, and if you don't read the linked articles, why does it matter where they are published?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:59 PM
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That's ignoring the asymmetry of the situation. Just because nobody forces anyone to do anything, that doesn't mean one party doesn't perform the function of a gatekeeper. For comparison: if you write a letter to a newspaper, the newspaper may choose to print it in the opinion section. The newspaper employs an editor who will read all the submissions and make a selection for publication each day. Of course a particular letter gets printed only by mutual consent, since presumably, authors mail in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/19 01:17 PM
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I think he just means "reversing cause and effect".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 04:59 PM
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But she didnt marry for money. She married a poor man for love. When they met, Bezos was vice president of D. E. Shaw (a Wall Street hedge fund). I'm not saying she married for money, but surely he wasn't a poor man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/19 01:29 PM
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Go to any college campus and you'll find plenty of young men studying hard In the US, women outnumber men in college 2:1, and the difference is increasing. Male seed is cheap. Sure, but the welfare state is not. So far, men have been net tax payers, while women have been net beneficiaries. If men drop out of the workforce, state's budgets are in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 11:17 PM
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I've never quite understood the negative connotation it has. I don't think "coping" has a negative connotation by itself, only when people "cope" by expressing false beliefs as a way to make their situation seem less hopeless than it really is. "Cope" is just a short-hand way of saying: "You only said that because it makes you feel better, not because it is true." Such comforting lies are a form of escapism, which you just listed as "unhealthy coping". You could argue that there is nothing wrong…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 11:16 AM
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Thanks, that was the third result. http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167215599749 PDF version: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lora_Park/publication/281261156_Psychological_Distance_Makes_the_Heart_Grow_Fonder_Effects_of_Psychological_Distance_and_Relative_Intelligence_on_Men's_Attraction_to_Women/links/56df267308aee77a15fcf4b7/Psychological-Distance-Makes-the-Heart-Grow-Fonder-Effects-of-Psychological-Distance-and-Relative-Intelligence-on-Mens-Attraction-to-Women.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 06:58 PM
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Which study? You are linking to a search results page.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 06:39 PM
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What is abortion if not women avoiding negative consequences? What's wrong with avoiding negative consequences anyway? Isn't that rational behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 09:39 PM
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Which be what exactly? (Surely you aren't asking what a source is?) I'm asking for a source for your claim that online dating is more competitive for women than for men. Have you ever heard of a thing called body language? Body language isn't personality; that's just a different part of physical appearance. Also I doubt you'll have much success on e.g. Tinder if you are obese and have an ugly face, but somehow display "attractive" body language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:10 PM
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Despite men outnumbering women on online dating it has in fact made dating less competitive for men and more so for women. Source for that dubious "fact"? Masculinity is more persona/behavior than physical looks. Yeah, right. Good luck getting a foot in the door when you're ugly as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 02:24 PM
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None of what you just said to me explains why men are so obsessed with wanting their wife to love them like their mum does. That's a loaded statement. I don't accept the premise that men generally want their wife to love them like a mother. You might as well criticize me for failing to explain to you why the earth is flat. Men and women desire to be loved unconditionally. Unconditional love is widely regarded as the highest form of love, not just between parents and their children, but also betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 02:09 PM
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Yeah, so weird how people have a desire to be loved. Less flippantly, take a look at Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Most people posting on Reddit are affluent enough that their needs from the bottom two layers are met (nutrition, clothing, shelter, health, security). The next basic need that isn't automatically fulfilled in modern society is that for social belonging and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:45 PM
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tl;dw?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 05:31 PM
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I think what's happening in the black community is better described by this article: https://aeon.co/essays/wealth-makes-men-faithful-while-poverty-makes-women-choosy Probably too long for PPD, but the gist of it is that when men are in the minority, as they are in the black community, they become lazy, women become distrustful of men, and marriage rates go down. In particular, the article claims that women will not "do anything" to please a man. As for "the TRP tactics are devastating": it may …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/18 08:56 PM
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Grace Hopper was an exceptional woman. However, pointing to one one excellent female computer scientist doesn't prove much about women's interest or aptitude as a group. There's also some misinformation in your post: Grace Hopper didn't design COBOL. She designed FLOW-MATIC, a precursor to COBOL, and served as a technical consultant to the committee that did design COBOL. That's not to say that Hopper's work wasn't influential, but she hardly did it by herself, and to credit her with "inventing …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 11:33 PM
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What are the primary sources for this claim you bolded: They created professional associations and discouraged the hiring of women. Ads began to connect women staffers with error and inefficiency. You repeat this claim a few more times in the comments, but it appears to be just one journalist's conjecture. The claim is suspect because it's ideologically correct, and such claims typically don't receive any scrutiny. The problem with the claim is that, if it were true, that would be an unprecedent…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:30 PM
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That chart has been created to mislead. Here's a better one that shows what's really going on: http://www.randalolson.com/wp-content/uploads/percent-bachelors-degrees-women-usa.png Note that this graph looks very similar; it even contains the same data, except that it includes more fields, most notably, engineering, which was conveniently omitted even though it's pretty relevant because most people with computer science degrees actually work as software engineers. This graph also clarifies what …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/17 10:10 PM
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They can try, but they're held back by physical limitations, and in the end, not everyone can be top 20%, by definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 11:31 PM
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It's always weak when your only proof is the marriage rate. But the figures aren't about marriage rates; they're about "married or living with an unmarried partner", which includes your "free union" (as long as the partners share a household).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:34 AM
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According to the United States Census Bureau in the US, men outnumber women until the age of 40. That's quite different from 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/17 10:53 PM
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Nobody is arguing that women don't compete with each other. The point being made is that competition is significantly stronger among men than among women. That seems well-supported by evidence. I'm sure you've heard the statistic that you have twice as many female ancestors as male ancestors? It seems impossible at first, but it's a consequence of the difference in reproduction rates between men and women. I recently stumbled upon an article that claims 8,000 years ago, 17 women reproduced for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:46 PM
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Wikipedia seems to think the theory is pretty relevant still. Your counter-argument comes from a site that claims evolution isn't real and advocates intelligent design instead. Pretty hard to take that it seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/17 10:20 PM

For those not in the know: this is a parody of an actual, serious proposal by a student called Arielle Schlesinger, who wanted to create a "feminist programming language" for her thesis: In the scope of my research, a feminist programming language is to be built around a non-normative paradigm that represents alternative ways of abstracting. The intent is to encourage and allow new ways of thinking about problems such that we can code using a feminist ideology. So what does that mean? Here's som…
/r/MensRights10/10/15 09:59 PM

You might need to edit the YouTube video link; it now starts at 0:25, instead of the beginning of the video. edit: it's fixed!
/r/MensRights31/05/15 04:27 PM
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It's not a restroom. And presumably there is no separate-but-equal men's room either.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 06:10 PM
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I think we mostly agree: media does influence kids. I'm just saying: don't put undue weight on Disney movies. (The topic of parenting is an interesting one, too. There is some evidence to suggest that peer pressure influences kids more than their parents do. If your parents encourage you to be a scientist, but your friends tell you to stop being such a nerd, what are you going to do?)
/r/MensRights02/05/15 04:05 PM

It's worth noting that the scientists in those movies aren't typically the romantic leads. I'll grant you that male scientists are more common (when you think of "movie scientist", you think of an absent-minded white-haired man with a lab coat), but it's not exactly as if movies are telling boys that "girls like brains" either. (I haven't watched Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs; maybe it's an exception to the rule. It's also from 2009; I don't expect anyone who grew up watching that to be in c…
/r/MensRights02/05/15 02:03 PM
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Demographic effects aside (Reddit is not a representative sample of the world's population to begin with), black people in the US or Europe might attribute negative experiences to racism rather than sexism. For example, if you're harassed by the police and you're a black man, you could reasonably think “the police treat black people more harshly than white people” instead of “the police treat men more harshly than women” even though both are likely true. If the first statement suffices to explai…
/r/MensRights16/04/14 03:11 PM

That's not a link! This is a link.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:50 AM
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I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I consider the Supreme Court of the United States to be somewhat more authoritative on the subject of civil rights than you, so I suggest you take it up with them.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 04:21 PM

You're using a too narrow interpretation of the word “right”. The US supreme court has specifically ruled that “marriage is one of the ‘basic civil rights of man’” (thereby striking down laws banning interracial marriage). Perhaps you'd prefer to call such rights “freedoms”, but that's just a matter of terminology, and the use of the word “right” definitely isn't wrong. Compare also with the “right to bear arms” for example ­— that doesn't mean the government hands out guns to its citizens; it j…
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:58 PM
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Haha what? I'm used too lazy, dishonest and uninformed criticism whenever Rand is quoted, but this takes the cake. Go watch this two minute video clip from an interview with Rand and tell me if you still believe she's a radical feminist.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 03:09 PM
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I don't consider that example a 'white knight' in the least. Then your idea is of what constitutes a white knight is seriously out of sync with the rest of the internet, and it's not surprising you consider the label to be misapplied. (And it does make me curious where you do think it applies.) True he used far more sugary and elaborate language on her than he would have for a male... No, he wouldn't even have started writing a reply if he hadn't perceived the poster as female. That's why he's a…
/r/MensRights04/11/12 03:31 PM

Ah, that's a bit of weird metric, considering that Reddit ≠ YouTube. (Personally I much prefer GWW's blog posts to her videos anyway.) edit: why the downvotes?
/r/MensRights04/11/12 12:25 AM
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It's hard to argue specific figures, but when I think of “white knights” I think of people who post stuff like this. This guy isn't “displaying a modicum of decency”; he's posting mawkish platitudes in response to an insecure post from an apparently female redditor. He wouldn't reply to an insecure male redditor like that, because white knights put women on a pedestal only. That's the difference between a “white knight” and a regular decent person. The issue is related to men's rights because it…
/r/MensRights03/11/12 11:58 PM
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And by which metric is she the most/only popular regular here? Do you think it's inevitable that gender/race/etc movements seek opposite gender/race spokespersons to relate and build credibility with the audience? Are you telling me it's common for feminists to defer to male spokespeople?
/r/MensRights03/11/12 11:03 PM
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I resent that! We're not organized at all!
/r/MensRights31/10/12 12:14 AM
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It's a joke about gender stereotypes. Personally, I can take it or leave it, but at least I recognize it for what it is. Liking jokes is still allowed in this subreddit, isn't it? (Honestly, this subreddit sometimes reads like bizarro-SRS.)
/r/MensRights19/10/12 01:22 AM
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On SRS dissenting opinions get deleted, and their poster gets banned. Yes, there are cirlejerks in here, but it's nothing like SRS.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:52 AM
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Apparently some of you don't recognize a post dripping with so much irony and sarcasm it can barely keep from sliding off the screen in front of you . Why do you think that? I downvoted your post because it's lazy, unoriginal, and didn't offer insightful commentary, not because I didn't recognize the sarcasm.
/r/MensRights19/10/12 12:29 AM
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He was a troll who purposefully posted the most offensive things possible. He didn't “troll” people in any real sense. He didn't go into other subreddits and post bullshit to offend them, or rile them up, or to promote his subreddits. What really offended people was not that he created subreddits like /r/jailbait, but the fact that they were extremely popular. VA isn't paying the price for his own arguably unsavoury interests, but rather for the fact that his interests were shared by so many.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:03 AM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 02:09 AM
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Err, you object to his ad hominem, then follow up with an unwarranted generalization? Just ignore MrStonedOne and move on.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 02:07 AM
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Possibly, or just an ill-designed survey. That still doesn't make it an attempt at phishing. I think Hanlon's razor applies here, especially since it looks like he tried to post a similar survey to /r/TwoXChromosomes (or that was a really crafty decoy).
/r/MensRights15/10/12 11:36 PM
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True, but it's still problematic that he thinks that re-iterating that soundbite makes it true. If you said “patriarchy doesn't real” I doubt he'd be convinced either. Maybe you could point him to the Wikipedia page on misandry, though really the image you posted wasn't about misandry, but simply about double standards.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 11:00 PM
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I don't think this is phishing; they don't collect usernames, e-mail addresses, names, addresses or other information that would be useful to phishers. One caveat: SurveyMonkey does log IP addresses, so if you are concerned about your privacy use a proxy (e.g. like this).
/r/MensRights15/10/12 10:54 PM
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A non-academic book by a Brazilian literature professor...? That's not what OP was asking for at all.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 02:50 AM
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I think you missed the point of the analogy entirely, which posits that Jews are successful in Western society, and therefore vilified by anti-Semites because they perceive their success a result of “cheating” non-Jews, just like feminists claim that men achieved their successes by “oppressing” women. That Jews weren't the beneficiaries of discriminatory policies is consistent with that analogy, because neither were men. Men are like Jews in this analogy, while misandry is anti-Semitism. I don't…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 02:44 AM
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Unfortunately, I have to agree that a lot of posts/comments are petty or downright misogynist. And there is a tendency to downvote critical comments (like the one you posted at the top of the thread). That being said, this subreddit does have a very tolerant moderation policy, which is a good thing because it means criticism like yours can be posted too, which prevents the subreddit from becoming too much of an echo chamber. A consequence of that policy is that unreasonable and/or hateful posts/…
/r/MensRights15/10/12 01:43 AM
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The Wikipedia page on human sex ratio is a good start. That article also confirms what I just said: Males usually exceed females at birth but subsequently experience different mortality rates due to many possible causes such as differential natural death rates, war casualties, and deliberate gender control. And the situation for the Western World: The "First World" G7 members all have a gender ratio in the range of 0.95–0.98 for the total population, of 1.05–1.07 at birth, of 1.05–1.06 for the g…
/r/MensRights14/10/12 01:20 AM

Well somebody needs to complain about the lack of women doing STEM majors!
/r/MensRights14/10/12 12:40 AM

No, there are 5% or so more boys than girls born almost everywhere in the world. The image you posted shows the difference in gender of the whole population. Men have a higher mortality rate in every age group, so around 35~40 years women start outnumbering men, and in total there are more women than men in most countries, but among children boys are more common than girls.
/r/MensRights14/10/12 12:34 AM
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Interesting article. I wonder to what extent the reasons cited for this increase in violent women apply to men as well. Growing up in poverty, being the victim of abuse, feeling the pressure of high expectations, and so on, aren't gender-specific problems. Of course, the researchers are quick to express “concern” about the perpetrator's mental health. That's nice, but I do wonder if male perpetrators are afforded the same level of concern for their well-being. Similarly, the authors couldn't res…
/r/MensRights14/10/12 12:15 AM
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Sinfest was always pro-feminist. He has this whole Sisterhood thing as a recurring theme, and literally three of the first twelve comics he ever made were ridiculing the men's rights movement. I never really found Sinfest interesting so I don't care greatly, but it's always sad to see someone regurgitate feminist dogma for brownie points from the politically correct. If people must preachy, I'd much prefer them to have something insightful to add (or at least be somewhat funny about it).
/r/MensRights11/10/12 10:56 PM
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To re-iterate, I'm not questioning your beliefs (which seem fair) but whether they are typical of the feminist ideology (especially online, but also in academic and popular publications). If I look up “feminism” in Google's dictionary, it says: The advocacy of women's rights on the grounds of political, social, and economic equality to men. Or if I look at Wikipedia: Feminism is a collection of movements and ideologies aimed at defining, establishing, and defending equal political, economic, and…
/r/MensRights10/10/12 07:27 PM
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So in short, the way I came to understand and embrace feminism, the term is completely synonymous with egalitarianism. That's nice, but almost nobody else who is seriously invested in feminism (or anti-feminism, for that matter) believes that. I think you'd have an easier time communicating with people if you self-identified as an egalitarian who is concerned with women's as well as men's rights, rather than a feminist, as the feminist label implies that you belief women cannot be sexist against…
/r/MensRights10/10/12 06:23 PM
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Except radical feminism isn't even close to the equivalent of the men's rights movement, which strives for equal rights for men, not male superiority.
/r/MensRights09/10/12 05:02 PM
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Yeah, seriously. I can't believe everybody is outraged when there isn't any evidence that this is a “campaign” in any real sense. The poor graphics make it look like something some random nobody uploaded to their tumblr; if that's the case, I don't see why this is frontpage material.
/r/MensRights03/10/12 12:35 AM
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Look at what she's saying. I did; I even gave examples of what she was saying that was indicative of her looking beyond the usual feminist dogma and actually being open to considering reality. If you're just looking for another woman to hate, have at it, but that's not why I'm here.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 03:26 AM
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That's how people change their perspective. Would you rather have her dismiss the criticism entirely?
/r/MensRights01/10/12 02:35 AM
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Why are people downvoting this question in a thread about the rules of this subreddit? Even if traditionalism is considered off-topic, it seems worthwhile to have that question answered, so don't censor mayonesa for raising it.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 12:41 AM
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Why the unqualified hate for this woman? She doesn't seem impervious to reason; she openly admits that the wage-gap is tiny, and that the picture she paints of men as “lazy, unambitious couch potatoes” is an unfair stereotype. Her analysis that men are falling behind in schools and the job market is based on actual facts, not feminist dogma, and corroborates the narrative of this subreddit, which says that men are not a privileged class in society. There are probably many points where one could …
/r/MensRights01/10/12 12:30 AM
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You sound like the kind of guy that opens milk cartons from the other side just to stick it to the man.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 06:13 PM
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The current version doesn't cover that situation either.
/r/MensRights27/09/12 06:08 PM
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Actually, no; about 7% more men than women die annually! What's probably more interesting to measure is the (healthy) life expectancy, which is about five years higher for women compared to men. That's not caused by war (alone) because the mortality rate of men is higher among almost any age group. It seems more likely there's a biological cause.
/r/MensRights26/09/12 04:02 PM
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I don't much care for either article; the first one is weak on logic (paraphrasing: “think how boring the world would be without rapists — we'd have nothing to be appalled by!”) and the second one is ominously silent about the fact that men and women alike are victims of paparazzi (Prince Harry's leaked naked pictures aren't mentioned) or that the audience of tabloid magazines is mainly comprised of women, not men. That being said, I'm not sure what the relationship is between the articles: look…
/r/MensRights25/09/12 01:53 AM
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From my experience, they're mostly a bunch of spammers. But if you're curious, why not visit the website advertised in the very comment you just replied to?
/r/MensRights10/09/12 10:32 PM
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Honestly, if your support for gender equality depends on the amount of upvotes you receive for your position, I don't think you really believed in it to begin with. That you based your decision never to return here on how your one post was received (rather than the content of many other posts on this Subreddit) contrasts starkly with your assertion that you aren't “looking for a round of applause”. That being said, I hope you'll continue to strive for equality; that's a commendable goal, whether…
/r/MensRights06/09/12 01:40 AM
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My favorite term is "benevolent" sexism (i.e. the kind that benefits women at the detriment of men).
/r/MensRights29/08/12 09:00 PM
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Again, I don't really disagree with anything you wrote, but I think you miss the point by insisting that socially-appropriate behavior comes naturally to everyone. It's not reading minds, it's reading the context of the situation. Most people do it throughout their lives, at work, hanging with friends, I just don't understand why it goes out the window when it comes to hitting on people. But it doesn't! Millions of people meet in a positive way every day. All successful relationships started wit…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 03:53 PM
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They spam links to Manhood101 videos/documents (Google them if you want, I'm not going to link them).
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:26 PM
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First, let me state that I agree that people should refrain from bothering others when they can reasonably expect attention is unwanted. That being said, I think LimeJuice and you miss the point, which is that since the onus of initiating contact is put predominantly on men, men will also make the majority of errors of judgment, no matter how many helpful tips you give them. In particular, statements like this: It's honestly not hard to tell. ... aren't helpful, when obviously it is very hard fo…
/r/MensRights24/08/12 02:07 PM
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I tend to upvote any kind of "Hey, r/MR isn't so bad after all" posts, since MR has such an image problem here on Reddit. In that case, you should be upvoting "Hey, r/MR isn't so bad after all" posts anywhere else — it's not the subscribers here that need to hear that message; everyone else does. Circlejerking in here about how right we are isn't going to improve our image elsewhere.
/r/MensRights22/08/12 10:01 PM
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Wikipedia's stats are a bit lower: A 2005 scientific review of international published studies of paternal discrepancy found a range in incidence from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%, with half of the academic studies on the subject, i.e. eight, yielding rates from 2.0% to 9.6%).
/r/MensRights21/08/12 01:10 AM

I have a problem with this argument. The women that don't make a mess don't “deserve” the dirty bathrooms any more than their male counterparts. I think this is a far-less-serious version of the fallacy that's often discussed here: some people think violence against men is more acceptable than violence against women because the perpetrators of violence are predominantly male too. But that doesn't follow. Just because someone is part of a demographic doesn't make them any more or less deserving t…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 10:38 PM
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From a queueing theoretic perspective, if the goal is to minimize mean waiting time, the gender-restricted bathroom should serve the quicker sex (regardless of the gender ratio of bathroom users). This is why supermarkets have express lanes, for example. But I'm guessing the opposite happened: they started out with two gender-specific bathrooms, and since coffee is a relatively gender-neutral product they had roughly equal number of people of both genders visiting the bathrooms, but since people…
/r/MensRights20/08/12 10:33 PM
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I appreciate your response! I think the core of the matter is that “feminist” is such a vague term that it has become impossible to ascribe a reasonably specific set of beliefs to anyone who self-identifies as such. You admitted yourself that there are (possibly few) people with that label that do strive for equality. If we don't want to this subreddit to turn into a hate group, we should avoid unnecessary generalizations. I think “all feminists are liars and bigots” falls into that category.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:33 AM
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Holy internal inconsistency, Batman! I'll explain why. If you align yourself with "feminists" then you are aligning yourself with hateful, racists, bigoted dogma so to say all feminists are evil bigoted liars is pretty accurate. Or maybe people are honestly ignorant/confused/misinformed? See: Hanlon's razor. Of course people misrepresent themselves as "feminists" when they really want equality but honestly there isn't too many of them This alone proves not all feminists are bigots.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:10 AM
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I don't disagree with the core of your point but I can't upvote a comment that tells people to “fuck off”. Might want to take that into consideration next time.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 03:05 AM
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The reasoning given for the gender discrimination is terrible (assuming I understood the article correctly). I'll try to translate the first couple paragraphs: Candidates want to protest female advantage at Vienna University The qualifying exam for the medicine program of the university ranks women higher than men — when they score the same. Rejected test takers refuse to let this pass. Whoever wants to pass the qualifying exam of the Medical University of Vienna this year should ponder, reason …
/r/MensRights16/08/12 02:16 AM
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I mean, how can you possibly find happiness in life if you think of yourself as some weak creature who's always being oppressed, to the point that you question every aspect of your life as being shaped by some sort of abstract evil? Are you kidding me? People love to externalize failure. The idea that your shortcomings aren't your fault, but the result of a powerful conspiracy to keep you down, is very comforting. (This subreddit isn't immune to this kind of thinking either.)
/r/MensRights16/08/12 01:53 AM
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To be accurate, he wasn't kicked off the plane, just forced to change seats. Like black people on the bus in the 50s. So clearly there's no problem here.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 07:48 PM
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Technically that may be true, but practically speaking it's more or less impossible to prosecute foreigners for actions like this. The names and e-mail addresses of the claimants also sound extremely fake, so I don't think it's easy to determine the real identity of these people.
/r/MensRights15/08/12 01:30 AM
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Feminists even have a whole theory worked out for explaining why it's OK for them to do all the same shit they complain about men doing. Then post that.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 01:39 PM
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That's at least partly because we downvote them when they speak up. Again, I think this screenshot is fair as criticism of Jezebel (and this author in particular), but to paint it as a tenet of feminism is overreaching, especially since Jezebel isn't really considered a feminist publication by anyone.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 12:49 PM
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Both articles are written by Erin Gloria Ryan. The screenshot doesn't even do the reality justice. Just two hours after complaining about the objectification of female athletes she publishes an article filled with sexual fantasies about the male athletes, without a hint of criticism. The adjectives “creepy” and “porny” are used to dismiss the comparatively tame NBC video but she sees nothing wrong with using famous men as characters in a gay sexual fantasy. (Oh, and don't get me started on the h…
/r/MensRights13/08/12 12:43 PM
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Although the screenshot is a good example of selective criticism, I don't think even feminists have much respect for Jezebel.
/r/MensRights13/08/12 12:20 PM
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A reasonable person...?
/r/MensRights12/08/12 11:38 PM
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This is extremely lazy.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 10:17 PM
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You have to admit, in some instances, women are not given the same opportunities as men. That's pretty vague, but I admit that it's true sometimes. Do you admit that in other cases, men are treated unfairly? Who does the oppressing in these instances? That's hard to answer without going into specifics. But if you think it's always (or almost always) men, you'd be dead wrong. A lot of gender policing and discrimination is perpetrated by women, but you'll never hear feminists admit it. (Or at leas…
/r/MensRights12/08/12 10:14 PM
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That's fair, but it's mostly a criticism on Carlin's routine. “Women are crazy” is just as much of a generalization as “men are stupid”. With regards to domestic violence I would agree that his view is outdated (I mentioned that in my edit, which may have crossed your reply) but it's not inconceivable that Carlin's views were shaped by a time in which men did have a lot of authority over their wives, and that domestic violence statistics with regards to gender painted a different picture or were…
/r/MensRights12/08/12 08:32 PM
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Here's the entire fragment. I don't think Carlin is being a man-hater exactly, though I'm sure some people disagree with his assertion that “women bear a greater burden [than men]”. He is cynical, and he does exaggerate — but that's his style. I don't think any good comedian is to be taken literally. edit: I also view George Carlin as a little out of date. After all, he grew up in the 50s. Men did have a lot more authority over women back then.
/r/MensRights12/08/12 07:45 PM
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That must be it, nice catch!
/r/MensRights10/08/12 04:09 PM
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Real-life events are only a small step above hypothetical situations; neither is necessarily a reflection of the general situation. If I tell you that black people are discriminated against in the justice system, you could point to O.J. Simpson trial as an incident where the opposite happened. But that would hardly prove the general case, would it? There are terrible people that are male and there are terrible people that are female. That shouldn't surprise anyone. What's important is that we de…
/r/MensRights10/08/12 03:47 PM

That picture is definitely from /b/ judging by the post ID, color scheme and lack of a name field. I don't even know where you are getting /x/ from.
/r/MensRights10/08/12 01:36 AM

As I said, it's more about the systemic treatment of men than this individual case (assuming it is even true). But if we don't understand each other after the first couple of comments, I doubt going on about it will do much good. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 10:17 PM

It's not so much about this case or the specific people involved here, but the systematic way in which men are painted as aggressors (or not). In fact, nothing would have really changed about the story if the genders were swapped or the genders weren't known at all. The implication is that a group of men that harassed a woman on her way home wouldn't be able to charge the victim with the crime, because that would be deemed implausible. (Even though, as you say, things could easily go either way.…
/r/MensRights09/08/12 10:07 PM

If the story were real, it would be a demonstration of the common sexist attitude which holds that men are aggressors and women are victims, to such a degree that a group of women could harass a lone man and then convince the police he was the aggressor, while a group of men wouldn't be able to victimize a woman that way. That's why the genders matter. Of course, good policemen don't make any such assumptions at all, and don't charge anyone without having at least a little evidence to support th…
/r/MensRights09/08/12 09:53 PM

Let me quote the subtitle of /b/: The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact. Let's not be fools.
/r/MensRights09/08/12 09:41 PM
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I'm not convinced by your claim that SRS Discussion bans all dissent. I'm willing to claim they ban the majority of dissenters who are not bigots (in addition of most of the bigots) — I never said “all” because I'm sure there's one guy somewhere that slipped through the cracks. As for not showing willingness to change your mind, that's about being open to possibilities, they don't want to argue with brick walls, the idea is you go there to discuss and learn. That would be fair if it worked both …
/r/MensRights05/08/12 01:13 AM
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I was banned for not “showing willingness to change my mind”; it was one those catch-all clauses they had in the rules back then to ban people who were polite and reasonable but didn't go along with the circlejerk. You still haven't answered whether you recognize there is a difference between bigotry and dissent. It's easy to justify the bannings if you just call everyone who disagrees with you a bigot.
/r/MensRights05/08/12 12:35 AM
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So do you acknowledge that dissenters are banned on /r/SRSDiscussion too? Or are you simply pulling the all dissent = bigotry card?
/r/MensRights05/08/12 12:16 AM
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I look around SRSD and they don't ban dissenters. [..] Why don't you provide actual examples? They do, but it's impossible to see, because the mods of SRSDiscussion don't announce their bans, and they delete the posts of banned users. That's why you see so little dissent. (Note that even SRS prime is more fair in that regard!) I'm honestly confused as to how sincere you are right now; on the one hand you sound like a troll that considers people like TracyMorganFreeman “bigots”, but on the other …
/r/MensRights05/08/12 12:11 AM
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Then what were you talking about?
/r/MensRights04/08/12 11:22 PM
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Are you seriously implying that 4chan and SRS are in cahoots‽
/r/MensRights04/08/12 10:37 PM
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It says “more vulnerable”, actually. (By the way, I don't think “rape” was the afterthought, considering “vulnerable” implies an external aggressor. You can't really be “vulnerable” to the consequences of your own actions, so why use that word if they want to warn people that drinking too much might cause them to make poor decisions?)
/r/MensRights04/08/12 08:01 PM
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The article actually address that (please read before you post): When guys are approached, it’s not even critical that the female be attractive. A French study found that males accepted the offer 60% of the time from an average-looking female versus 83% of the time from a highly attractive one—with no females accepting the offer no matter how attractive the male was who approached her (Guéguen, 2011).
/r/MensRights03/08/12 10:20 PM
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This story is a year old, and has been posted many times. I think this article is actually a relatively fair treatment because it doesn't erroneously conclude (like most others) that the Clark & Hatfield study is rubbish and women want sex just as much as men, despite all evidence to the contrary. I'd still like to point out that there are two fundamental weaknesses to the new study (which is not yet freely available in full, as far as I could tell): It replaces a concrete proposition with a hyp…
/r/MensRights03/08/12 07:44 PM
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Ultimately, that is hurting the nation’s girls and women, too. I think framed this way, it's a fair remark.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 09:13 PM
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Just a PSA to people voting on this post: please don't downvote people because you disagree with them (see also: the reddiquette). As of writing, this comment has spawned eight replies, so clearly it's worth discussing.
/r/MensRights22/07/12 02:20 AM
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Which is true. Nobody should be kicking anyone in the genitals.
/r/MensRights22/07/12 12:16 AM
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I don't think name-calling is the norm here, and I think people who resort to it disqualify themselves. But I would agree that regulars/lurkers here are too quick to downvote opinions they don't like, even if the commenter is acting in good faith and contributing to the discussion. I recognize that that might be frustrating to commenters (especially if they care about karma). However, I also think that many (internet) feminists live in a bubble with their own alternate-reality view of society, a…
/r/MensRights21/07/12 11:42 PM
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Go ahead, it's not like he invented it. (Here's another incarnation though I'm sure the realization is much older than Facebook.)
/r/MensRights21/07/12 11:14 PM
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Nice save, but I'm sure you at least read something about it or you wouldn't be able to make the comparison, let alone name one of of its principal characters. In any case, I'd guess there is little overlap between the people who read Fifty Shades of Grey and those that think pornography is degrading to women.
/r/MensRights20/07/12 01:02 AM
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*Grey
/r/MensRights20/07/12 12:49 AM

It's the notion that because men are over-represented at the top (think of senators, presidents, CEO's, et cetera) men as a group must be better off than women, completely ignoring the fact that at the bottom (when you consider people who are homeless, jobless, committing suicide, failing school, et cetera) men are over-represented too. If that isn't enough, the fallacy is compounded by the fact that the people at the bottom vastly outnumber those at the top. For every male president, there are …
/r/MensRights18/07/12 04:43 PM

You joke, but e.g. the Derailing for Dummies guide unironically states that scientific study is an inherently privileged activity and therefore carries inherent bias, in a way that lived experience does not. “The process of valuing ‘fact’ over ‘opinion’ is one very much rooted in preserving privilege.” So facts are out, subjective opinions are in. Does that mean your personal experience as a man is admissible evidence in a discussion about gender too? No, of course not, because you are privilege…
/r/MensRights09/07/12 01:04 PM
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I don't care to argue about the subtle differences between our views, so just have another upvote!
/r/MensRights04/07/12 06:07 AM
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There is some evidence it does, but even so, it's a huge red herring, for the following reasons: Any sexologist can confirm that using a condom is orders of magnitude more effective at preventing HIV. In countries like the US, where HIV isn't prevalent and condoms are easily available, relying on a circumcision to reduce the risk of HIV is simply irrational. Circumcision carries the risk of various medical complications; it's not clear that those complications don't outweigh the possible benefit…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 04:24 AM
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when the media discusses an alleged rape and the perpetrator is male, they rarely use words like "allegedly" That really varies by country, by journalist, and by case. Even if men aren't always afforded the same benefit of the doubt, that doesn't change the fact that Ana Kasparian is doing the right thing here. All people accused of crimes (regardless of gender) deserve the benefit of the doubt until allegations have been proven in court. If you agree with this, you shouldn't chide Kasparian for…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 03:30 AM
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I think point 1 isn't entirely fair. I think it's proper for a journalist to emphasize when criminal allegations haven't been proven in court. And when she says that "the woman did indeed try to kiss him" she's quoting the boy, not stating a fact. There's no contradiction there, and I think she just displayed prudence typical of good journalists. I do agree with your criticism of the male reporter; I just wanted to point out that I don't think there's anything at all wrong with the female report…
/r/MensRights04/07/12 12:58 AM
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I agree, that was immature, and using that picture weakens the message because it suggests Clinton is to criticized for her appearance rather than for her statements. The quote itself is damnable enough. A more neutral photo would place more focus on the objectionable part of the image: the words.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 06:29 PM
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but the correct term is rapist. “Raper” and “rapist” are synonyms in English; either word is acceptable.
/r/MensRights24/06/12 03:42 AM

There are two problems with this image; one is obvious, and all comments so far refer it: no matter how hard it is to lose a loved one, it doesn't compare to dying yourself. The second problem is more subtle and is overlooked in the comment thread so far: Clinton considers women victims because they lose their fathers and sons — but she neglects to mention that boys lose their fathers too, and men lose their sons. Even if the notion that a dead soldier's loved ones are the “primary victims of wa…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 11:41 PM
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Congress Yes, my point is that people in congress aren't the ones who hold the democratic power. The people who vote do. And (slightly over) half of those are women. While a woman may elect a man for other reasons, he could totally be shitlord when it comes to understanding womens rights. True, that's a consideration every man and woman needs to make for themselves. But the possible existence of "shitlords" didn't stop men from introducing women's suffrage, even in a time when congressmen were e…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 05:43 AM
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Leaders are often reflections of who holds the power in society. In an autocracy, sure, but in a democracy that's not obvious, especially not in Western nations where women outnumber men. Women hold the majority democratic power and they elect people to represent them. If those people are men, that doesn't make them any less repse Are you implying that black people hold (all?) the power in American Society because Barack Obama is black? If not, why would you claim that men hold the power because…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 05:12 AM
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By other men [..] So if men disadvantage other men it doesn't matter? Where's the logic in that? If Angela Merkel revokes women's suffrage in Germany, that would be fine, because she's a woman?
/r/MensRights23/06/12 03:53 AM
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First the separation of church and state [..] Ehh, no offense, but you guys were rather late to the party on that one. Consider this map from 2008 for example (red states separate church and state, yellow ones have a state religion). But good on you for catching up!
/r/MensRights14/06/12 03:56 AM
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I'm amazed not only by the fact that you bothered to lodge an official complaint, but that you managed to do so in a rational and eloquent manner. It's really very difficult in cases like these to put forward a convincing argument without sounding bitter or angry, but I think you pulled it off. Thank you for your efforts!
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:57 AM
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I'm not really interesting in this battle-of-the-egos, but I will comment on one point: There's someone complaining about this exact issue on this thread I don't see that exact quote in his reaction at all. If you are only interpreting, you shouldn't use quotation marks. It's dishonest. (As is the misuse of the word "exact" in this context.) edit: Also, downvoting my comments as soon as I make them (especially when you're replying to me) is rather poor form.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 03:18 AM
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I downvote a lot of stuff in this subreddit too, but you don't see me make blanket generalisations about its visitors. If anything, I'd like to have reasonable people here to downvote the occasional bigots. A lot of what these people are calling "Men's Rights" is "White Christian Male Privilege Pity Party". The same can be said about feminism and white female privilege. But that doesn't matter. What matters is people's concrete opinions on specific issues, and whether they hold water or not. In …
/r/MensRights11/06/12 02:05 AM
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Nowhere in my blog post did I call for gender separation in the classroom. I originally saw this discussion linked on Hacker News and I assumed that you did, based on your conclusion: Lessons Learned I’d never really believed in single sex education [..] But my experience last weekend changed my view. I interpreted this as you advocating single sex education. If you say that's not what you meant, I'll take your word for it, of course, but I think you could have been more clear in your article. D…
/r/MensRights10/06/12 10:41 PM
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Shouldn't feminists be protesting this kind of thing? No, you see, liberated women can choose to accept the offer or not, and a woman's choice is never wrong. In fact, it's an opportunity for a woman to embrace her femininity. Any suggestion to the contrary is oppressive and a transparent attempt to extend male privilege at the expense of women's rights. Or maybe more principled, level-headed feminists do have a problem with things like this. I don't know anymore. edit: I Googled a little and fi…
/r/MensRights09/06/12 03:24 AM
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I don't think slut-shaming and virgin-shaming are really on the same level, considering that being promiscuous or not is viewed as a personal choice, but remaining a virgin is viewed as a personal failure: if you're a virgin, you're not man enough to succeed in seducing a woman. (Of course, men can choose celibacy too, but that choice isn't typically criticized.) In my opinion both forms of shaming are bad, but the underlying accusations are fundamentally different.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 03:52 AM
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I don't agree with it, but it's probably an older definition. Historically, rape was a male-only crime in many jurisdictions, and in the public mind it still somewhat is (though it definitely shouldn't be). As someone said elsewhere: a dictionary isn't a moral compass; it documents language as it is used. And as a result, with barrels as well as rape, the common meaning of words lags a bit.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 06:21 AM

He's not citing results of any type of research. Indeed he's not. That's the problem. You'd think there was a paper trail if he got a restraining order and the police made an arrest. But the story is lacking verifiable details (names, places, et cetera) of any kind. Not even a gutter journalist would dare print this. All stories are anecdotal, and you can feel free to believe it or not. So we're just going to post "stories", no matter how unsubstantiated, and circlejerk about how evil women and …
/r/MensRights31/05/12 04:37 AM
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Link to forum thread.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 04:30 AM
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I'm 96.3% sure it was a joke. (Also: separate, please.)
/r/MensRights31/05/12 04:16 AM
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But that's exactly what they do! OED definition of rape: the crime, typically committed by a man, of forcing another person to have sexual intercourse with him without their consent and against their will, especially by the threat or use of violence against them: OED definition of a barrel: a cylindrical container bulging out in the middle, traditionally made of wooden staves with metal hoops around them.
/r/MensRights31/05/12 04:15 AM
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I agree with most of this post, but I think you missed the relevancy of the posted photo and it shows in your suggestion that advertisements for men don't attack men's insecurities about their bodies. The underlying problem is that women are supposed to be insecure about their looks, but men explicitly are not. If they do, they are weak or worse: gay. That's why men don't discuss body image issues with each other. That's why men put on a façade of being satisfied with their bodies (even when the…
/r/MensRights19/05/12 05:11 PM
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Woosh!
/r/MensRights27/04/12 03:22 AM
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I'm going to assume you and everyone who upvotes this hasn't actually read the article (or its translation, which is a little bit awkward, but mostly accurate).
/r/MensRights24/04/12 02:47 AM
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Sorry, I'm not going into an extended debate with you about this. You asked me to clarify some of the terms I used when I pointed out the flaw in Demonspawn's argument and I've clarified them. If you disagree with my premise that it's morally good to give people equal opportunities in life (even if that's not economically optimal) then we'll have to agree to disagree on that, because I'm not going to debate this.
/r/MensRights18/04/12 11:00 PM
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Do I really have to explain this? Are you fishing for the old "the fire brigade shouldn't hire women because they're weaker than men" argument? Even if this is true on average it doesn't automatically hold for individual applicants, which is what I mean by "directly linked". You can't infer a candidates (un)suitability for that job from their gender. So e.g. the fire brigade has the moral obligation to evaluate candidates individually, rather than rejecting people based on prejudice about their …
/r/MensRights18/04/12 06:30 PM
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"Discriminatory hiring practices" would be when hiring decisions are made on grounds other than the candidate's suitability for the job; in particular when they're based on prejudice about the person's sex, race, age, looks or other innate features, when they aren't directly linked with their ability to do their job properly. I believe discrimination leads to unequal opportunities for different people, which I believe is unfair, and therefore I care.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 11:22 PM
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Are you asking what I mean by "discriminatory hiring practices" or why I care about them?
/r/MensRights17/04/12 10:52 PM
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I used to offer this argument too, but I since realized it assumes that people who make hiring decisions are (1) perfectly informed and (2) rational agents (without irrational biases). Neither assumption is true, as research shows time and again. Lacking perfect information, even rational behaviour may lead to discriminatory hiring practices. And in the real world information is always imperfect. Of course, none of this demonstrates that there is a wage gap due to discrimination (or that it is a…
/r/MensRights17/04/12 08:05 PM
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I am fully aware that this is [1] /r/mra It's not.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:29 AM
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What about people who read the subreddit occasionally but don't subscribe to it?
/r/MensRights01/04/12 03:26 AM
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I was going to point out your spelling errors but then I remembered to check my ableist privilege.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 07:48 PM
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Could you quote his username too? I'd like to know who the trolls/bigots are so I won't waste my time on them.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 09:27 PM
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This is child support, not alimony. He wasn't taking care of any children; his spouse was.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 09:19 PM
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SRS welcomes discussion at SRSDiscussion. They welcome "discussion" only if you agree with them. The rules in the sidebar underscore that. If memory serves, I got banned for (politely and reasonably) arguing that women were beneficiaries of at least some "privilege" too by the definition offered by another poster. The motivation was that by refusing to concede my point, I was not "demonstrating a willingness to learn" (rule V). They have since added rule XI which explicitly states that if you ar…
/r/MensRights09/03/12 07:13 PM
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Technically that only disproves his assertion if they hired a male applicant instead. For all we know they had a ton of female applicants who were all favoured and hired a woman, but simply not you. (Though I doubt reality is that simple.)
/r/MensRights08/03/12 05:55 AM
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That's such a big question that I don't think I can adequately address it here. For the matter at hand, I think the important thing to agree on is that regardless of whether anti-discrimination legislation should exist, if it exists, it should be equally applicable to either gender.
/r/MensRights08/03/12 05:05 AM
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Depends on where you live, but in the United States and in the European Union discrimination based on sex/gender by employers is illegal. It's hard to strictly enforce such laws, though, and typically women are seen as the victims of gender discrimination rather than men. I think what the people in this Subreddit are upset about is that discrimination against men seems acceptable (often touted as "progressive policy" or "benevolent sexism" or "positive discrimination") where discrimination again…
/r/MensRights08/03/12 04:23 AM
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From the other comments it appears it was the same thing as this.
/r/MensRights07/03/12 02:07 PM
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Male according to this, though I'm not sure how reliable that website is.
/r/MensRights19/02/12 06:09 PM
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Of course, but that doesn't make Gekkidan's comment any less funny in the context of the topic being discussed.
/r/MensRights05/02/12 01:41 AM
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If it were normalized that women could go topless, however, a HUGE percentage of women would be doing it to look for sex. Why do you think that? Frankly I don't see why women would need to expose themselves "to look for sex" when they are (certainly moreso than men) able to find sexual partners while keeping their clothes on. Similarly, men who go topless in socially accepted situations (like on the beach) don't generally do so for sexual reasons. Why would women be any different?
/r/MensRights29/01/12 02:19 AM
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Well what I think would happen is the "pretty" people would laud around with their new freedom, and the "non-pretties" would feel worse than they already do. Have you ever been to a nude beach or in a naturist park? It's far more normalizing than you'd think; virtually nobody is there to show off their bodies. In reality, most people are pretty average-looking anyway. Those "beautiful models" you mentioned would attract a lot less attention in a naturist setting than you'd think; they're not tha…
/r/MensRights29/01/12 02:02 AM
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Of course, but for the experiment to work, they needed the woman to be perceived as being "sexually liberated". A mix of dress and behaviour is probably a better way to create this perception than behaviour alone, even though the dress is not a necessary component of it. A conservatively dressed woman can also be sexually liberated, but she is less likely to be perceived that way than she would be if she wore sexy clothing.
/r/MensRights06/01/12 03:46 AM
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It should be one row at a time to the nearest exit, when one row is done, the next follows. Agreed. I just wanted to point out that weight-based arguments make little sense in the context of an emergency evacuation. Getting people out quickly in an orderly fashion is more important than the weight of the plane in the intermediate.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 04:33 AM
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If that's the argument, then you should let the heaviest people off the plane first, not men specifically. Still; an Airbus A320 has an empty weight of 94,000 lbs (that is without crew, cargo, passengers, luggage or fuel). The average weight difference between men and women is around 20 lbs. Under the most optimistic scenario that gives a 1.5% difference in weight for unloading men first vs unloading women first, which seems negligible.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 04:21 AM
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Honestly, I don't know if (or to which extent) rape jokes cause rape. I imagine it could be true, but I also imagine it is probably not the leading cause of rape either. In the case of this particular paper, I imagine that priming people with sexist jokes could just lead to those people being more inclined to admit pre-existing sexist feelings in the second part of the experiment (similar to how some people might make a racist joke in a "white" environment, while keeping their mouths shut in mix…
/r/MensRights29/12/11 12:37 AM
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So you object to statistical significance testing, or what is the point you are trying to make?
/r/MensRights29/12/11 12:12 AM

No, they show correlation. This is the second time you have claimed this and yet you still have to offer any evidence to support this theory of yours. A causal relationship between two events is a relationship where one leads to the other; that is, the former occurs before the latter, there is a correlation between the two, and there is no common factor that causes both of them. The last part is the essential difference between correlation and causation. Your boat/bicycle analogy fails because t…
/r/MensRights28/12/11 11:43 PM
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Thanks!
/r/MensRights28/12/11 11:15 PM

You seem to miss the point of the paper entirely. Have you even read it? all it seems to show is that there is a correlation between exposure to rape humor and actual instances of rape Wrong on both counts. They show a causation (between exposure to sexist humour and rape proclivity), not a correlation. And their study does not involve actual instances of rape at all (which is one of the weak points). Just because you laugh at somebody slipping on a banana peel doesn't mean you will go around pu…
/r/MensRights28/12/11 11:11 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 10:59 PM
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I think the main point is that "being nice" is overrated when it comes to sexual attraction. They're attracted to guys that are truthful, don't lie, and are confident. Whoa -- citation needed! You think truthfulness are the first and second criterion by which women judge men? How does one even establish truthfulness? Skilled liars, by definition, are hard to separate from honest people, and I've yet to meet someone who really likes hearing the truth all the time.
/r/MensRights28/12/11 10:22 PM
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Why do you ask a question and then downvote the person offering a constructive answer? (Frankly I think your question was full of unproven assumptions and generalizations to begin with; the answer you received was much better than you deserved.)
/r/MensRights28/12/11 10:15 PM

This is an interesting post, as I think /r/MensRights has both merits and issues, but realistically speaking I don't think you will ever be able to win the favour of someone who literally claims that "/r/shitredditsays makes Reddit worthwhile".
/r/MensRights28/12/11 02:34 AM
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The patriarchy is all around us, you are simply blinded by privilege. This is what (most) feminists believe. But not what (most) MRA's believe. Regardless of who you think is right, this warrants a separate term because this is a rather fundamental difference in point of view, wouldn't you agree?
/r/MensRights14/12/11 04:40 AM
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Ah, there we have it: it's only rape in the figurative sense. Like getting raped in a sports game. But in that case you cannot equate it with literal rape, just like getting raped in a video game is not remotely comparable to getting actually raped. How devastating emotional abuse is has nothing to do with the topic. Murder has even worse effects too, but that doesn't make it rape either. (Incidentally, if most murderers are male too. But I like to call it "soul rape", figuratively speaking, of …
/r/MensRights03/12/11 05:24 PM
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Except she wasn't performing her duty, she was, giving blatantly unfair- 8 fucking years for VANDALISM! Outrageous and unfair, but warranted by the law. Your real beef should be with the lawmakers that criminalized soft drugs and proscribe so much jail time for relatively minor property crimes. That's no excuse to literally lynch the judge. (By the way, it wasn't "8 years for vandalism": it was 8 years for three counts of vandalism and one count of drug possession.) The call for harassment was a…
/r/MensRights03/12/11 02:58 AM
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That's a valid metaphor, but that does not mean the literal definition of rape extends to all forms of assault or abuse. If you go back and look at the posted screenshot you see that the very example you give is labelled with "figurative" in the dictionary you are criticizing. That's not what rape literally means.
/r/MensRights03/12/11 02:12 AM
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But it wasn't this time. She got sentenced to 20 years in prison. (Hey, remember when O. J. Simpson got away with murder?)
/r/MensRights03/12/11 02:01 AM
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I'm sorry, but a call for violence is never OK. I can't imagine what backstory would exonerate posts like that. (I'm referring to the "I hope somebody kills her" and "I hope she was harassed" posts specifically.) Women are criticized on this very subreddit for condoning or sometimes even supporting violence towards men. (For example, this on the frontpage as of writing.) I support that criticism because I find hate speech unacceptable. What I don't understand is why the same standard should not …
/r/MensRights03/12/11 01:38 AM
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Brevity is a requirement of conciseness. I agree the signal-to-noise ratio in her writing is high, but if it's not brief, it cannot be concise. That's not a criticism; just an observation.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 03:52 AM
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Concise?
/r/MensRights24/09/11 10:45 PM
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That would only work if the rest of the world was on board too. How long do you think the kid can avoid questions about his/her gender? This only accomplishes that you force your kid into the role of the weirdo. No good can come of it.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 03:22 AM
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If you are aware he's a troll, please don't keep feeding him. Just browse his post history and I'm sure you'll agree that no rational argument can be had with this guy.
/r/MensRights22/05/11 02:47 AM
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