TheRedArchive

~ archived since 2018 ~

smokingmonkey420 Archive

View 54 posts and 4,337 comments by smokingmonkey420 on TheRedPill subreddit and various other subreddits related to The Red Pill community.
Search in:
In subreddits:
More
Filter by year/month:
Upvotes Title Category Author Subreddit Date (UTC)
90

Ask Red Pillsmokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill19/08/14 09:15 PM
55

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill10/05/14 07:58 PM
48

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill21/02/16 06:52 AM
39

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 05:33 PM
38

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill08/01/15 05:12 AM
21

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/15 05:41 AM
19

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill24/10/14 02:42 AM
17

Debatesmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/15 02:57 PM
11

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 10:50 AM
11

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/16 12:13 AM
11

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 08:08 PM
11

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 08:44 PM
11

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill06/10/14 09:36 PM
10

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/15 07:40 AM
10

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill17/01/15 08:51 PM
10

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 11:22 PM
9

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/15 12:49 AM
8

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:57 PM
7

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 02:58 AM
6

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP12/08/15 06:26 PM
6

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/15 05:38 AM
6

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 09:25 PM
6

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:22 AM
6

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:21 PM
6

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP20/10/15 03:22 AM
5

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP12/08/15 03:17 AM
4

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:44 AM
4

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP19/08/14 10:35 AM
4

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 12:55 AM
3

CMVsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/15 10:21 PM
3

Debatesmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 04:47 PM
2

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 12:04 PM
2

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill03/10/14 08:05 PM
2

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill13/09/14 09:30 PM
2

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP13/12/15 03:17 AM
2

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:19 AM
2

Question for BluePillsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 07:15 AM
2

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/15 08:18 AM
2

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:55 AM
1

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 02:11 PM
1

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:37 AM
1

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 08:31 PM
1

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP06/07/15 01:55 AM
1

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 09:44 PM
1

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 02:14 AM
1

Q4Womensmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/16 03:16 AM
1

Discussionsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 05:28 PM
1

Question for RedPillsmokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/15 11:19 PM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 04:27 AM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP23/03/15 05:32 AM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/17 05:27 PM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP11/05/15 03:06 AM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/TheRedPill16/11/14 02:52 AM
0

smokingmonkey420/r/askTRP18/01/15 12:18 AM
Showing the 1,000 most recent of 4,337 comments.
Upvotes Comment on Subreddit Date (UTC)
1

Is it really that easy? You think you can just compartmentalize your reasoning capacity from your emotions? Isn't trust in some way just another emotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 11:20 PM
1

I didn't get that from your post. It seems like you were saying that you were only taking height into account. Also, because I feel safe around someone doesn't mean I will choose to trust them. How can you feel safe without trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 10:14 PM
1

Well if you're just talking about attraction then I can see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 09:49 PM
1

A preference need not have a reason. Attraction is a 'reason free' zone. Taller guys make me feel instantly safe, protected and feminine. Not sure how that translates into petty insecurities. This is just an immature point of view. You shouldn't feel instantly safe and protected around anyone. Especially for something as arbitrary as height. Feelings of safety and protection with someone should be born out of the trust you place in that person. It goes so much further than just physical prowess.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 08:24 PM
1

Another thing I practised in with my kids - which the mother was not happy about at all - is that I insisted that the real world is physical and it should hurt when you fall. So no bike helmets, protective pads, etc. I can see why she'd be mad. Cause this is just plain stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/17 02:25 PM
1

Even this guys going to get old, fat and ugly. If he can't provide for a family, why would the average girl want to stick with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:21 PM
1

Men also have options like the one my friend took, where he left a white collar, six figure job and took a job bartending for cash under the table. He still makes a fantastic living, but it's not on the books - so his child support payments were drastically cut, and his ex had to step up her game rather than relying on him. Despite his pay remaining comparable, this is still a giant net loss in terms of finances. Bar tending is generally a shitty job with no real future.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:39 AM
1

Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 02:39 AM
1

That makes sense but it's really downplaying the women's part. For one, if you don't find a good father then you're going to be a single mom. That leads to a whole sleuth of its own problems that can wreck your life. Women may be the primary caretakers, but they aren't guaranteed child support. The man may take off or just not be able to pay it at all. Sure, they may get benefits. But financially speaking, it will be a major expense as compared to the money she could have made (and saved) had sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 09:48 AM
1

Nah. I've been with girls and known in the back of my head it wouldn't work out long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:51 AM
1

Assuming you're correct, what major responsibility do women have?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 05:49 AM
1

Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:00 PM
1

Only people that have deep insecurity have to put down others to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 12:01 PM
1

Jealous much?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 01:22 AM
1

It's likely inherent in all relationships to sin degree. No woman in her right mind shacks up with a bum. That's just the way it is. However, the degree to which a woman is attracted to a man for his money can certainly vary and the difference is often quite subtle. In some cases, it might be obvious but I'd say in most it's not. But by and large, it's going to be there to one extent or another. Nothing you can do about it but try to work it in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 12:11 PM
3

No, they are definitely not. The unknown variables are infinite and impossible to keep track of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:53 AM
1

Because lying to yourself about your feelings is the opposite of understanding the truth? Duh. Unless you worded this poorly, this point makes no sense. You're either in love with someone or you're not. You can try to fake it or lie to yourself about your feelings, but that won't result in a true love for someone. It either is or it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:26 AM
2

All other things are never equal. Which means your whole pint is moot and a non-sequitur
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:18 AM
1

In a purely logical and rational word, then you would have a point. Unfortunately, and quite obviously, this is not the case. Emotions are major part of both a man and woman's makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 11:15 AM
2

Women do whatever they want when it comes to relationships and the SMP. The rules don't apply to them like they do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 10:42 AM
1

That's a really interesting perspective. I was expecting something more practical. Care to flesh that idea out some more?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:14 AM
1

What are those three things?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:01 AM
1

At least I'm getting something out of this place.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 01:26 AM
1

What's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 12:53 AM
1

It's not about male or female privilege. It's about two things. How good you look and how much money you have. Ugly people of both sexes get treated like shit. Good looking people of both sexes get treated like gold. Money is the only tangible good a person can have to swing their favor in the same way that looks can.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 09:05 PM
1

People generally respect it. On the contrary, people who have to announce their accomplishments come off as insecure and seeking validation. Common sense really.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 04:22 PM
1

Until enough men catch on. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 04:07 PM
1

Yeah, that's what I tell myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 05:04 AM
1

About 14-15. The thing is that I've probably fucked up my chances more often than I've actually succeeded. Worse yet, none of the girls that I ever truly liked did I get past first base with. Makes me sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 04:49 AM
1

Should have used the word "chases." The word "preys" clearly has a negative connotation for anyone with a reasonable amount of sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 09:19 PM
1

Absolutely none at all. Never any kisses or holding hands or anything. It's kind of sad, really, and I think it probably messed me up a bit as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 05:22 AM
1

Even still a GP that works as a hospitalist is going to pull down over 200k per year. Just saying it's going to take an exceptional tradesman and a remarkably unexceptional doctor for their two salaries to meet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/17 12:50 AM
1

No way GP's make more than that. At least 200k.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 02:30 PM
3

A certified electrician or carpenter can make more than most lawyers and about the same as your typical doctor. Average doctor is making somewhere around 250k. I don't see anyone but the most elite tradesmen even scratching the surface on that type of income.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/17 12:32 AM
1

Give me a break. It's really not all that difficult to judge who may or may not be a suitable partner. You just got to learn to spot the red flags instead of ignoring them. Here's a few. Does he have a job? Does he come from an intact family and have good relationships with them? Does he exercise or pursue other activities? Does he have a substance abuse problem? Does he have anger issues? Does he appear to have standards or will he just go for the first decent girl that comes by? Personally, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 06:01 PM
1

Depends on the guy really. Some just put on and keep on muscle much easier. They tend to do shorter as well. I find myself in that category. It only took me a couple months to build a decent physique and it's generally been quite easy to maintain since then. I only lift maybe a couple times a month anymore but I don't see much loss of muscle mass at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:48 AM
1

People that lift can recognize others that lift pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:45 AM
1

I don't know man. Lifting definitely made an impact on my attractiveness to women, but even more than that was the impact it made psychologically. In terms of political outlook, I literally went from borderline socialist to libertarian/traditionalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/17 02:41 AM
1

Yes and no. I think I can attract people that I genuinely find attractive myself. My problem is I want to fuck at least half the girls I come across, but not nearly that amount want to get with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 05:07 PM
1

Well, I'm not swaying that applies to everyone but certainly the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 04:15 PM
1

I think a better question might be, "are the majority of women happier being single." Inevitably, there will be a small minority of women that would do better without a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:50 AM
3

"why is being with a man such a critical part of a woman's existence in your mind?" Because the desire to mate and reproduce is rooted in our biology. Rationally, you may be able to make yourself at peace with being alone, but a certain part of you will always want something more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:46 AM
1

Technically, she's still single.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/17 01:42 AM
1

Hey man it's not like I hate them for it. I just call it like I see it. It's not like they don't have redeeming qualities of their own. As opposed to men, they are more pleasant in general. Make what you will from that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:26 AM
1

Lol. You make me laugh. They love working with me. I always put a smile on their faces. This isn't just one workplace with women. It has been several and I constantly recognize the same trend. Women never stop talking and they never stop complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 02:14 AM
1

Yeah, I'd have to say that's the exception to the rule. In my experience, women don't work as hard as men. When they do have to work, they complain far more. That's just calling it as I see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 01:57 AM
1

Textbook case of ideological possession right here, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:10 AM
3

No, that's just one example. There's lots of others. I don't mean to discredit TRP entirely. I spent a good amount of time there and learned a lot. I have found that TRP is just like any other ideology. It speaks a lot of truth, but it's not the whole truth. However, when people get taken in by an ideology, they tend to get carried away from time to time. That's what I see in TRP. A large disconnect between the ideology and what is going on in reality. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if sometime i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/17 12:07 AM
2

It's kind of simple. Their views on women and how to treat them are entirely contradictory. At the same time, they excuse themselves from all their bad behavior. For example, RP will call women who have casual sex sluts and to avoid commitment with these types. It just so happens this includes nearly all women a man might meet. At the same time, they encourage men to pump and dump women to their hearts delight. In essence, they are perpetuating a system they rail against, while absolving themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:59 PM
1

Women are weaker though. The fuck your talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:28 PM
2

It really depends. I work in a nearly all female environment as a man. I'd say I actually get preferential treatment most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 11:25 PM
2

Well, to be honest nearly all topics on this board are just done over again and again. I took a couple month break from here, but feel as if I haven't missed a beat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:36 PM
2

I often think about the world we are raising our children in. It seems like the media and advertising agencies don't put much thought into it these days. Sexual images are brazenly displayed all around us. Songs played on the radio talking about selling drugs, fucking bitches and other narcissistic ideals. Children are being exposed to so many real world things that they are just too young for. On the other hand, you got countries like Saudi Arabia where society has been made to be as modest as …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:17 PM
1

Perhaps, it does just come down to the issues at hand for me. Currently, I have a job and healthcare provided for. I'm relatively young and healthy. I don't even visit the doctor and only go to the dentist about 2-3 times per year. I don't care all that much about health care policy in America. I can say the same about most of the issues liberals go on and on about. I'm not struggling financially. I don't feel particularly oppressed or depressed. I don't have kids so I'm not worried about educat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/17 08:11 PM
1

See, I don't follow politics closely enough to pretend that I have a thorough understanding of each policy. I doubt the majority of the population does either and that would probably include you. Issues like health care reform are vast and extremely complicated so when the average joe starts talking about them I can only roll my eyes and shake my head. They don't know shit and they are talking out their ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:43 PM
1

Shaming language is just the beginning. Look at Canada now with Bill C-16. They are going to make it illegal to not use a preferred gender pronoun. If you give an inch, they'll take a mile. Honestly, I liked Trumps general attitude and what he stands for. He says what's on his mind, he's positive and he puts America first. His general tone and attitude was a better option in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 05:11 PM
1

Free speech is the foundation of our society. It's literally the most important aspect to the entire constitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:54 PM
1

Possibly. See, my best advice would be to get drunk. Best way to lose your inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:11 PM
1

I'm no sex expert but I don't remember fumbling all that much my first time. Or any time after that. Its just something that comes naturally to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:08 PM
1

Because I detest political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 12:58 PM
1

Whatever. I'd have voted for an inanimate object before I'd vote for Hillary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 10:37 AM
1

No chance in hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:47 AM
1

Just stop with the bullshit. No more feminist lies. No more wage gap myth. No more fake sexual assault statistics. Recognize that men have problems of their own. If they would just be real and honest, we could actually make some progress. Oh, and if y'all could tone down the complaining for just a moment or two that'd be greeaaaaattttt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:46 AM
2

It's "never make a pretty woman your wife."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:43 AM
2

Of course I care but hookers don't do anything for me. So I'll try my hand on the SMP and if I fail at least I'll be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:36 AM
1

The woman does not believe it is harmful and can not be convinced by him otherwise. Yeah, and people that try heroin don't think they'll be the ones to OD. People are naive. A consistent RP doesn't believe unicorns exist. Ok, good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:34 AM
1

This is ducking idiotic. As a guy that matches your description, the alternative to me is to live frugally and invest my money. I'll be financially secure and independent while the rest of society will be working in to their 60's and 70's.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:27 AM
1

Yeah, a true RP is pulling a con. He's adding another notch to her belt, with no intention of commitment, which he believes is infinitely harmful to the woman. A consistent RP would search for a so called unicorn and settle down with her. Perpetuating the decline is not the moral choice to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:23 AM
1

Ok, fair enough. What if the person does ask? Do you lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 03:20 AM
1

It doesn't matter if they are adults or not. You don't take people down paths that you know are no good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:11 AM
1

What a crock. Women still absolutely depend on men just as much as they ever did. Who do you think is doing all the tough jobs that keep society afloat? Who is paying into the tax system? Who is still expected to be the breadwinner? Answer: Men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:06 AM
1

Well, I'll tell you the number one reason I voted for trump is because I'm tired of people policing my language and constantly referred to as a racist, sexist, bigot. I know a lot of people who say the exact same thing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 02:01 AM
1

It's kind of like the argument a drug dealer would make. If it ain't me selling crack to the kids, then it will be someone else. So it might as well be me. If you take TRP view of women as true, then you can't in good conscience pump and dump women. Because that would be harmful to women based on your own beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:53 AM
1

Pretty much all of it. They claim women that have casual sex are sluts and essentially incapable having a marriage. Yet, advise men to plate women and never marry. Doesn't that sound a tad bit stupid too you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:51 AM
1

Relationships built on lies don't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:10 AM
2

Yes, of course. That's the shadow that Jung talks about. But that's not actually what defines a person. In fact, it's the exact opposite. It's the animal part in us. What make us unique people is something entirely different than the warrior that longs to fuck and kill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:09 AM
1

I honestly don't see how you are going to learn anything with a hooker. There is no foreplay, no build-up, no kissing and definitely no cuddling afterwards. Just wham-bam thank you ma'am. If anything, it will warp your ideas of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/17 01:06 AM
1

Where did the name Chad come from in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 09:50 PM
3

I think you're overestimating the average woman's (and man's) potential earning capacity. Median income for the household in the U.S. is approximately 55k. That's solidly middle class but it takes two people. A single person making 30k is going to struggle to pay their bills. Life in the U.S. isn't cheap. It's nice to have a supplemental income to make life more comfortable, and someone to depend on should you fall on hard times. The other aspect to take into account is the average woman's (and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/17 05:26 AM
1

Well, I guess I'll say it. The idea of morality comes from God. It cannot be any other way. If there is no objective basis for morality, then what we are really talking about is mere opinion. Opinions can change at the drop of a hat so that what is considered good one minute is bad the next. That does not appear to me as very rational or even consistent with the way people act in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:27 PM
1

Well, I feel like we really went off on a tangent there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:30 PM
1

I'm not saying anything about girls and guys who cheat. Even though I think most people frown on it regardless. I'm still talking about morality in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:04 PM
1

Wise words, sensei : )
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 06:57 PM
1

Is it really all that different? Take the case of Ariel Castro from Cleveland, Ohio. He was that dude that captured 3 teenage girls and kept them hostage as sex slaves for years. I know at least one of those girls even fathered one of his children. That situation is is viewed as morally repugnant by the vast majority of people. Dude was sentenced to 1000 years in prison and if he hadn't killed himself, the inmates no doubt would have done it for him. Because that's what even the most rotten of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 06:55 PM
1

I know I can't argue any point you just made. There is zero evidence for an objective morality. The evidence we do have points to the idea that morality is nothing more than an adaptation or product of evolution. Trust me. I get it. It's all imaginary. Except, it's really not. Despite anything, I know deep in my heart there is a difference between right and wrong. I'm sure you do too just like every other person I've known in my life. Morality doesn't need scientific evidence for its justificati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 11:56 AM
1

Yeah, I'll pass.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 09:39 AM
1

Which naturally organizes itself into a firm of capitalism. You can't deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:39 AM
1

What inequalities exactly are you talking about? Sure, there is a far greater gap between the rich and the poor than ever, but people rarely starve to death. Shelters are available and health care is accessible to all. Honestly, do you not think capitalism deserves at least some credit for all the progress that has been made?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:37 AM
2

Capitalism has raised our standard of living to a level that would be beyond comprehension to our ancestors. Look around you. Things are truly amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:16 AM
1

Actions speak louder than words. Despite their profound understanding of the topic, it always, inevitably, indubitably is an abject failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:07 AM
1

Two guys with an opinion. Don't see the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:04 AM
1

Tell that to the Venezuelans.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 08:01 AM
1

Yes, completely. It's something that a person has to develop, and they need a reason to. They are so few that they're not even worth discussing. Many more people will claim to be than will actually be. How does one do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 07:53 AM
2

Well, I'm sure that can be arranged. Not quite sure why'd you want too tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:49 AM
1

Are you willing to commit to just anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:47 AM
1

Imagine you had a beauty contest, and at the end of the contest, instead of having impartial, objective judges, the contestants just judged themselves. How much sense would that make? That's no different than the idea of subjective morality. It's nothing more than an opinion. This, subjective morality is no morality at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:43 AM
1

You're actually making my point. See what nonsensical ideas like relative morality get you?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 04:23 AM
1

Morality is relative? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. You ain't fooling no one but yourself pal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/17 03:48 AM
3

Dude, it's a fundamental moral principle of western civilization. They're not MY morals or religions. They're shared by you, me and just about everyone else you know. Saying otherwise is just a cheap rationalization to do what you want even though you know it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:51 PM
6

Yeah I do this too. Mainly because when you flush, the lid will keep the contaminants of the bowl inside the toilet instead of wafting into the air. Especially important when it's next to the sink with your toothbrush.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:31 PM
2

These rules are universal. It's in the freaking 10 commandments. "Do not covet your neighbors wife." I understand that's not a law according to our justice system but the point is that this social norm has been with us a long time and for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/17 07:23 PM
2

IMO, it was.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:22 AM
2

The video is literally titled Peterson on Women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/17 01:06 AM
1

Sounds amazing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 11:31 PM
2

Too many questions. I got shit to do, baby. I'm the ALPHA.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:32 PM
3

Yes, they push for it. Feminism is the embodiment of the ideology for WAWE. It's part of the establishment and any criticism of it will get you breaded as a woman hater. If it was just biology that would be one thing. But the fact that you can't even question these things in public is the real ugly part of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:10 AM
2

People would call that racist. Big deal. The truth is the truth and we should say things as they are. That way we eliminate the idea of a narrative all together and can get to the root of the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 03:00 AM
2

You left a really insightful comment. I'll thank you for that. I kind of disagree with Peterson's view of women working too. I think that everyone should be given the opportunity to strive for financial independence and security. Those two qualities are truly universal to human well-being. You don't necessarily have to be a big shot to reach that state in life either. Plenty of middle class people get there by spending and investing their money wisely. However, talking about financial independen…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:46 AM
2

Yeah that's the underlying point I was getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/17 02:31 AM
1

Yeah I get super nervous when it's a girl I actually like.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:57 PM
3

Hundreds of thousands of people disagree with you. Just read the comments on YouTube. Clearly he's striking a nerve with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 11:37 PM
9

You can say that but in reality the guy is a licensed psychologist who also teaches at a major university. Not to mention the fact that he has thousands of hours of clinical practice as a therapist which means he sees the problems people face in real life. Based on that alone, I think he's worth listening to more so than any random internet stranger with an opinion in the comment section.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 09:20 PM
11

1) Economic prosperity for society is raised when women are granted equal rights. 2) This is not necessarily a good thing because women in general report lower levels of happiness than in the past. 3) Some women reach financial success but find it unsatisfying because it involves far too much work. Gives good example of female lawyers that were probably clients of his. 4) Majority of women are struggling because they work shitty retail jobs and thus become an easy target for predatory men. 5) Hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 09:14 PM
2

Thought I did. Any ways, it's there now.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 08:46 PM
1

The fact that most people say they live their children more than life itself is enough evidence for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 08:03 PM
1

Most do. Most people in general don't have careers. They have jobs. They don't get enjoyment or a sense of purpose from their jobs. Family is the most important thing in most adults lives. The idea that most people will forgot family for their career and be happy with that decision is wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:53 PM
2

I'm one of those guys. Yet, I'm still single. What gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:46 PM
1

Because it's not attractive. In fact, mental illness, is the opposite. A complete turn-off.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/17 07:32 PM
1

Look you focused your post around what gives you an election. I was just pointing out that there's more to it than that. I agree that the issue is not black and white. I'm just saying that there's more to it than just sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 01:25 AM
1

Those guys are pretty self aware to be able to pull that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 12:02 AM
2

I have a Chad friend. Dude has been with probably between 100-200 women. Cheated on every girlfriend he's had. Sleeps with multiple gorgeous girls at a time and they all know about each other because he doesn't try to hide it. He's not especially good looking. Just really outgoing, funny, and rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/17 12:00 AM
1

There is more to relationships than just sex. Maybe I'm the outlier here, but as a man who does well for himself financially, and plans to retire early, a women's ability to earn and maintain sound spending habits are a major concern to me. I know that I wouldn't be compatible with some girl who works at a restaurant or bar and has no plans for the long term future. I mean I'd still fuck them. They give me a boner. But I'm not putting a ring on it. That's for sure. So it just ain't as simple as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 11:48 PM
1

Why do some men believe there is only one right way to be a woman. Ideologies will do that to people. Although, there is truth to be found in TRP, at the end of the day it is still just an ideology. People that let themselves be taken in by one can say and do crazy things that they probably wouldn't otherwise. I think a lot of people can find great fulfillment in a traditional relationship. It's often looked at as the bedrock for our society for good reason. It just comes naturally to folks. How…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 11:41 PM
1

It's actually a Christian value and the basis of our justice system. If people didn't believe it deep down they would just turn into savages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 09:48 AM
2

I don't think so. I think people recognize the inherent worth to individuals they know personally no matter their gender. People may generally favor women but that doesn't make them outright indifferent to men. I especially don't see how you could say such a tenuous theory as demonstrably factual. Care to elaborate?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 12:13 AM
1

This idea of disposability is just a symptom of nihilism.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 03:36 AM
2

I would imagine the answer would be yes. People manage to make all sorts of ideologies. Some that seemingly make no sense at all. The question is if it's useful to develop an ideology. Generally speaking, I think that ideology is a barrier to the truth. So I think people should do their best to ignore them and see the world through their own eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/17 01:33 AM
1

It also seems to me that men are the ones who view every human interaction through a sexual lens. Definitely true in my case so long as I find her attractive. I really wish it wasn't the case to be honest. It's distracting and frustrating at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:38 AM
1

Because most people in general are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:35 AM
2

If I was a 10, I'd bang everything that moves. Alas, I'm at best a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:30 AM
3

He's the fucking man. Look him up.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/17 12:21 AM
3

Yep, I listen to Jordan Peterson a lot and he says the same thing. Inequality is the biggest predictor of male on male violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 11:59 PM
1

Feminists only fight for men when the fight is somehow tied to a greater benefit for women. Is not what's good for men more than likely going to end up as good for women? And vice-versa? We may have some conflicting interests, but they are more closely aligned than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:53 PM
3

Truly, she deserves a medal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:50 PM
0

Isn't the origins of all this just PUA forums?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:49 PM
1

Yeah, I generally feel this way too. It seems to me the only way an average guy can attain status is to be rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 09:13 PM
1

The relevant part is at 19:00 and is only like 2 minutes long. That's why I pointed it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 03:42 AM
1

Yeah exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 02:58 AM
4

I mean does this show that status trumps all?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:38 AM
1

All of them. Same as Paul Elam and the rest of the MRA group are leaders of their movements.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 01:23 AM
2

True. I think the position Mike is put in would make someone extremely jealous and resentful to the point that life doesn't matter anymore. That could make a person snap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:59 AM
3

the women always have the option of figuring out how to build something themselves. By the same token, they have the option to figure out cures to their illness. As an aside, and healthcare worker, I'm quite tired of the idea that healthcare is a public right. It's not. It's a service and it deserves fair compensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:26 AM
2

I bet the other three withhold their indispensable skills from him the next time he needs them, cause he's an entitled douche and expects to get paid for something everyone else is doing for free. And then they all die painful, miserable deaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:21 AM
1

You "need" those sort of necessities to live. Someone's got to provide those resources. Which means someone's got to put in the work to make it happen. Why should they be expected to give it out for free, when other people who are perfectly capable, chose to do nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:19 AM
2

He's not killing them. He's just refusing to provide them with a service unless they agree to his terms. They are free to say no. What is Mike getting out of his services? Why is it not immoral to expect Mike to provide services basically for free?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:15 AM
4

Mikes entitled to place demands on his service. They don't have to accept the terms. That's life. If the left dropped their idea that food and shelter was an entitlement, then it would be consistent. It would also make sense. Also, make them conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/17 12:11 AM
1

Where did you get the idea that Paul Elam is the leader of the MRM? It probably has something to do with the fact that he is the leader of A Voice for Men. One of the leading groups of the MRM.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 08:33 PM
1

He for She
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:27 PM
1

The guy I know is just rich and extremely outgoing. Has a big house in the middle of the city with a rooftop and everything. But he was still pulling mad girls even before then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 07:02 PM
1

Except that socialism always ends as an abject, violent failure. So it's not something I worry too much about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:27 AM
1

If she's a millionaire, she's likely been saving since she was in her twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:10 AM
1

But are you an heir? Cause if you were then you might see things a bit differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:04 AM
1

This is actually quite true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:03 AM
2

Probably a function of age and/or lack of money. I know that as a professional making about 65k per year, with the potential to reach the low 100k range, I want my girl to be on the same level. That way the two of us can live a comfortable, fulfilling life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 02:02 AM
1

All of this nonsense can be EASILY refuted in a few mins. This is just rationalization for women who want to major in EASY subjects where they want to get paid WAY MORE than they are worth because they don't want to work in computers, math, etc that are "hard". Ok, then refute the fact that medical school admission for women is on the rise and will likely match, if not succeed male enrollment in the near future. Then take into account that medical school burdens the student with more debt than v…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/17 12:01 AM
2

This comment right here, folks. Ideology gets in the way of the actual truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 11:58 PM
1

I mean I feel you man. I'm 31 and I've never had a serious girlfriend. Just random hookups here and there. I'm getting resigned to the fact that I might be single for the rest of my life. It is depressing no matter what way you you put it. No amount of therapy or working on yourself is going to make it better either. The heart wants what it wants. The only thing I can say is you just got to keep putting yourself out there and maybe you'll get lucky. That's all.
/r/seduction20/05/17 03:58 PM
1

Sure, but the problem is TRP is an ideology and so they frame all women's behaviors in the same light. It can explain a significant portion of women's actions and motivations but any deviation from it is ignored.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 05:28 AM
1

Yeah I know that's true but it's hard not to get disenchanted sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 04:39 AM
1

I'm just saying expectations have risen quite dramatically due to steroids. Otherwise, why the hell else would men do that themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:57 AM
1

Ok but what do you do when the bar has been raised beyond reasonable levels due to all the dudes juicing? Cause I just don't think I could do that even if it means I'll never have a perfect body.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/17 03:41 AM
1

That's certainly a good point all else being equal. But some shorter guys can be tough SOB's and take out guys bigger than them all the time. Maybe it's the bigger guys who are self-conscious fearing that a man half their size could humiliate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:49 PM
1

It just shows that both feminism and traditionalism are two sides of the same coin known as Gynocentrism. Liberals and conservatives both aim to please and protect women even at the expense of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:21 PM
1

I don't think that's a good analogy in the slightest. Sure, Karen has a point. Divorce can royally fuck a man's life. But, at the same time, having a loving and faithful partner can make your life better in countless ways. Take what I say with a grain of salt. I'm 31 y/o male and still single. But I still have faith that a good relationship is possible and worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:12 PM
1

This is entirely anecdotal but lifting made by far the biggest psychological impact to me. Lifting actually led me to seek out the red pill and change my view from left to right. It also seemingly increased my sex drive as it's been quite a noticeable change since I started lifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/17 10:08 PM
1

So we should just give up working on it and allow others to stereotype us however they please? Yes. People are allowed to form their own opinions no matter how off they might be. It's not my duty or anyone else's to tell people how to think. It's not so easy to disregard the negative opinions of others when they hold systemic power over you. Maybe you mean that you shouldn't look for validation from other people, in which case I agree. Sure, it's not easy but it can be done. People make first im…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 06:03 PM
1

Sure has by far been mine. Rarely do I meet women who don't complain incessantly. I work with a lot of them so I see the trends.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 05:57 PM
2

But is it true that men, in general, are in fact, more capable and resilient? Sometimes, you simply have to call a spade a spade.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:20 PM
1

The same can be said for really any group of people. You can make about generalizations about race, stature, weight, even hair color. Also, you can work on it all you want but it will never go away. Instead of focusing on this as a society, individuals should be learning to disregard the negative opinions of others that are without merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 03:04 PM
1

I never said 28 was old. I said it is fast approaching middle age if not already there. I see middle age as a time span, say 30-55, than as a single age. Your question is intriguing though. I'm 30 now and many times I have thought if I died, then that would be ok. At the same time, I know of a guy who's 28 and has stage IV cancer who I feel really sorry for.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 06:39 AM
3

Having a thread devoted to the discussion of desexualized men is a bit unsettling. I think I've seen this trend in other ways as well. It seems people have a tendency to discuss those who have a lower social standing as if it's a right and they have authority. I mean if you're not actually a desexualized man, then what are you doing in here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 03:33 AM
5

Some people are born disabled. Some people are born in Syria. This is life. You do the best with what you have. You aren't telling me anything I don't already know. But sitting around waiting for others to give shit to you or blaming everyone else for your inability to improve your station is widely condemned. My only point here is that we can't control the hands we are dealt, but we can control how we treat others. We don't have to put down and make life more difficult for those who are less ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:12 AM
1

Well common sense would tell you that people don't typically live past 80. You should also consider that past 60 is pretty much old, and 28 is nearly half way there. 28 is pretty close to middle age inthe grand scheme of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:10 AM
3

I recognize that people get shit on for all kinds of things. Most of which are beyond their control. So that makes me question this assumption you make that it's "up to you" to fix your low SMV. The fact of the matter is that it's often not in our control no matter what we do. Some people get dealt shitty hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 10:52 PM
6

As a short guy who has done relatively well for myself, I can see it both ways. Sure, it's my problem to make the most of what I got in life. There's no denying that and I do my best at it. It's just the fact that people will take shots at you for no other reason than to cause you harm. Like yesterday, this girl at work was pushing a cart and said, "get out of the way or I'll run you over." I gave her a confused look and then she blurted out, "because you're so short." This girl is shorter than …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:47 PM
1

It could never be a societal issue because it would defy our biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:36 PM
1

Wow, you really hate casual sex. Or, he just hates that people make destructive life choices. If someone said, "wow, you really hate heroin", then most would understand why. This poster is making essentially the same argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 09:30 PM
1

This is a bit of a run-on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:47 PM
1

It's not that big of a deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:47 PM
1

No. Not sure how you come to that conclusion considering life expectancy for men and women ranges in the 70's-80's. 28 might be at the tail end of young. At best. Closer to middle age in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:45 PM
1

I don't think any normal person thinks this way about the opposite sex. Man or woman. Raising a family is highly correlated with overall happiness when you grow older in my experience. I really don't think people are meant to be alone. I will agree though that much of the men and women out there are shitheads who really aren't cut out for family life. I think that's where the problem first starts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:35 AM
1

Like I just don't think famous people are typically that great. They're usually good at a sport or act in movies and shit. Who gives a shit about that? Not me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 12:56 AM
1

Man I don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:01 PM
1

You wonder why so many people grow up to be complete dumbasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:28 PM
1

Does that mean women should become WGTOW? They already did a long time ago. It was called Feminism. Some men are just beginning to catch on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:50 AM
3

Playing sports or acting in movies does not make a person amazing in any meaningful way. It's fucking entertainment. The fact that people who are incredibly amazing, like scientists and inventors, are largely ignored shows how ignorant of a species we are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:47 AM
1

Nursing supervisor is way ahead of Security. I would even say the average RN is ahead of Security. Security serves your needs so you can serve the patients.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:15 AM
1

You crack me up. As if women would ever have the guts to take the lead. Never going to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:09 AM
1

You can work on making yourself rich. Money is a powerful aphrodisiac. Money also holds no bias against ugly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 02:07 AM
1

Can't argue with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 06:06 AM
1

Yes. The story he tells of taking ecstasy and fucking 17 women in one night sounds quite ridiculous. I don't exactly buy it, but anythings possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:54 AM
3

Well, they are. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 04:26 AM
3

Do you understand the definition of synonym?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:57 AM
6

TRP strikes me as just yet another stupid ideology. Black Lives Matter, Feminism, KKK and on and on. These are all just stupid ideologies people follow because they can identify with them and they tell them what they want to hear.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 11:14 PM
1

You are missing the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:31 PM
1

Is pleasure really worth striving for? That is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 09:24 PM
1

Lol guess there's a lot of raping going on these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:36 PM
1

One more won't hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 12:33 PM
1

I am sure all the Red Pillers are cheering at how much more difficult life is now that feminism exists. That's probably why they bitch about it all the time. That's one of the reasons I don't consider myself RP. So you can drop that assumption right there. I understand that overcoming difficulties feels good, but would you like to willingly throw away your advantages just for the sheer pleasure of it? Why don't you give everything you own away and start from scratch from the street? Because admi…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 12:05 AM
1

I've actually noticed the exact opposite. Talking about these kinds of things is causing nothing but more and more tension. People are protesting everywhere, all the time and it's getting to be absolutely ridiculous. See, there's people like you that are busy talking about these issues, while other women are out there actually getting it done. They aren't going to let what other people think or say get in the way of their goals. The fact that it's been that much more difficult only makes their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:43 PM
1

So what? Honestly, who gives a shit? You set your own expectations. You tread your own path. You're never going to get anywhere if your too caught up with what other people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:30 PM
1

I'd rather talk about how she obviously didn't let that get to her and still carried on with her goals. But you're obviously too much of a crybaby to have that conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 11:23 PM
1

How's this for disproving your point? We are about to have the first female president ever. The most powerful position in the world held by a female. But you want to complain about co-workers mistaking you for a secretary or asking if your into fashion. Give me a break. The problem is not men failing to take you seriously. It's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 10:47 PM
1

Really that's it? Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 09:15 PM
1

That seems a bit much. It sounds like that's your ideology speaking more than it is you. How often does that happen to you personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 06:55 PM
0

They don't take women with ambitions seriously, they, as a collective, must pay the price. Honestly, where does all this rage come from? What's the worst thing a man has done to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:09 AM
2

I guess that's where you and I differ. I have a difficult time with casual sex because I have such a strong fear that I'm going to end up getting the girl pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 03:02 AM
1

You're probably right. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 02:32 AM
1

Ok, but clearly that is beyond your control. If a woman does not want to have an abortion, you cannot make her. Also, I'm sure you're aware that many women are explicitly against that kind of thing. It seems to me that you're willing to majorly compromise your relationship in order to meet your needs. What do you think that says about you, your GF, and the relationship you two have?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:52 PM
1

Great video. Useful advice in any aspect of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:45 PM
1

Clearly, both will hit a wall sooner or later.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 06:17 PM
1

Have you and your girlfriend discussed these risks?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:42 PM
1

I'd agree with you there. It seems to be a mighty big risk. Would you consider it the biggest one in your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:33 PM
1

What if you get another girl pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 05:23 PM
2

2-3 times a day. With whoever strikes my fancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:20 AM
1

That's you, mother fucker. Ruling everyone up in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 10:02 AM
2

I think porn and masturbation are a bad thing, personally. I find when I abstain, I have more energy and enthusiasm. I also have a much stronger desire to interact socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:27 PM
3

Ben, is this your new account?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:24 PM
1

The real question then becomes when? Because I don't see this downfall becoming apparent in our lifetimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:36 PM
1

There's no evidence that simply lacking a dad living in the house is problematic in and of itself. What a joke. Reasonable people don't need scientific evidence to understand what should be common sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 09:34 PM
4

They are lying. I have a best friend at work. She shares with me all these stories about her sexual adventures and her promuscious past. i know her husband too. The cuck knows nothing about. The bitch will fuck me, if i said yes. But i dont want to fuck my friendship with her man. All talk. Either do it or STFU.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:42 PM
1

You. What you just said is psychotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:14 PM
2

It doesn't happen to everyone. I've seen plenty of couples stay together with no indication. Furthermore, neither were particularly promiscuous in their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:40 PM
1

Psycho...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 02:38 PM
1

Except that the poindexter beta has nearly zero chance of ever becoming a Chad. The characteristics that embody a Chad add part genetics, and part upbringing. Trying to emulate something you are not is futile.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:29 AM
1

So what you're saying is, since it happened to you, then it must be true? Correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:08 AM
0

I think it's like communism. In theory, AF/BB makes complete sense. In practice, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:01 AM
1

Get out more and actually get to know Chads, hang out with them and you'll see soon enough how women just throw themselves at them, women who you wouldn't expect to be that way but they are. My alpha buddy is a landscaper and just recently he nailed a hot MILF customer after he went to her home to bid a job. That's the kind of life Chads live, people who aren't Chad or don't know Chad wouldn't have a clue because they aren't exposed it. Have you considered confirmation bias? With the sheer amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:59 AM
0

That's what TRP is for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:56 AM
3

Except that TRP men came up with the theory in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 05:51 AM
1

If we could make advances in medicine to cure this modern allergical reaction to exercise I believe that less men would be incels. It's called sports. They should be mandatory in school.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 01:01 AM
1

By an objective standard, you are rich. Regardless of what you think. Not even sure how we got off on this tangent. Just saying. Can I ask how you got so wealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:33 AM
1

First, you say. you will spend about 30k per year on clothing, coats, and other inconsequential shit you don't need. Then, you say. I hope I painted a small picture of how 150k per month is not really a lot of money. No, my friend. You just spend it on ridiculous shit. 12 cars? 30k in clothes per year? Is this some kind of joke? If that's how you like to live your life then more power to you. I'll admit it sure sounds nice. Don't for a second try and act like you have "money problems." You're ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 12:15 AM
6

Well, I don't know what happened to you in the past but we can't base our laws on people's social anxieties. Precisely what this law intends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:33 AM
2

Yeah, that's fucked up. But do you really think it should be a crime to do things like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 03:17 AM
1

Definitely made me more attractive if not for the simple fact that it cured my depression. It makes me feel more confident, aggressive and masculine. It's even made me noticeably more horny. The psychological benefits have outweighed the aesthetic by a large margin, but that is still good enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:57 AM
1

As they say, if you're a conservative in your 20's, then you don't have a heart. If your a liberal in your 30's then you don't have a brain. Peoples views change over long periods of time. Discussions on forums like PPD can have a significant impact as well. It's happened to me countless times. It's just that we don't see it happen in real time. No one changes their mind at the drop of a hat. They have to ponder on an idea for a long time. Be exposed to in their own lives. Study the subject from…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:46 AM
2

Sorry to be so insulting but I cannot imagine the amount of frivolous spending you must do to feel like you have any worries about money. Like what? Your not rich until you have 5 mansions and 3 yachts? Please, inform me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 02:41 AM
1

Do you consider yourself rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/16 01:18 AM
2

I would say for the vast, vast majority of people out there it is an obscene amount of money. The average person could retire in less than a year on that salary. You're downplaying the relativity of how much money we are talking about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 11:24 PM
2

That's quite a large sum of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 09:00 PM
1

1- Money is the biggest isolator in existence. When a man reaches a certain position in money, he will find that he is utterly alone. Simply because most everyone who ever gets near him is interested in money. Source: My own life... How much are we talking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:36 PM
1

Because marriage is as much a financial agreement as a romantic one. Wealthy, handsome men marry wealthy, beautiful women. Also, eventually we all get too old to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:33 PM
1

The Gender-Based Misconduct Office investigates reports of sexual and gender-based misconduct involving students. Every case is different, and the Office tailors each investigation to the specific facts of the case while maintaining a meaningful opportunity for all parties to be heard. The process generally begins with an initial assessment of a complaint, followed by case conferences, investigation and adjudication 1984.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:11 PM
1

Except when it comes to me. I'm the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:07 PM
1

Chads gay now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 08:06 PM
2

Spot on. Even looks like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 07:08 PM
1

Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:41 PM
1

No, faggot. I love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:41 PM
1

Because it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:15 PM
1

By "uninvited approach, touch, or kiss" he obviously means within context. For instance, don't ask if it's ok to kiss before you make a move. Just go for it. If she doesn't want it, you will be rebuffed. He does not imply randomly approaching a girl to try and kiss her. Only an idiot would think something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:06 PM
0

The go to rebuttal for all women. The difference is that working out in the gym will actually make significant long, lasting changes. It also takes a whole lot more effort too. But it's worth it. Makeup is fucking easy. Any woman can do it. In the morning, it all gets washed away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 06:00 PM
1

You literally offered nothing of substance to this discussion with this rambling, incoherent load of BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:56 PM
1

Overreact much? You're looking way too far into what was written.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:49 PM
1

Fairly good synopsis. I would say that applies to everyone here except me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/16 05:09 PM
2

I agree with you. Guess my outrage bar is set pretty high. This is minor when it comes to politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 04:38 PM
1

Dude you realize you're trying to pick a fight with a stranger on Reddit? Get a fucking life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 02:21 PM
2

Honestly, I don't give a shit what you have to say anymore. Peace out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:48 PM
2

Why the outrage?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:45 PM
2

I find it hilarious that you're taking out your anger on an anonymous online stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:44 PM
2

Haha you mad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:09 PM
2

But he's not lying. Trump probably could get away with grabbing some of these women by the pussy just because he's a star. It may not be right but that doesn't make it untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:08 AM
6

Sound jaded. What makes you say all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:57 AM
1

Think Rpb Gronkowski or Bret Michaels
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 08:54 AM
2

You mad?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 07:42 AM
1

I probably could if I wasn't so short. So yeah for some of us it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 01:58 AM
2

You don't have to believe me. Makes no difference to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:56 PM
2

Nope. I'm just that good.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:43 PM
1

Yea. Supermodels.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:29 PM
2

As a guy that stands 5'4", you can go fuck yourself. I'm still going to get mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 10:25 PM
5

I'm sorry but no. My sex life is my business. Seriously where do you get these ideas? Normal people would ask you the same question. However, we here at PPD, already know the answer to that question. Just saying the fact that sex can have unintended consequences like STI's and Pregnancy makes it kind of imperative to be transparent and forthcoming. Of course, only if you wish to act with some common decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 09:59 PM
2

Good. Learn to embrace it. People are shit anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:21 AM
3

Yeah. Now, I can clearly tell that you're an idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:51 PM
2

The truth is even if we got rid of the social stigma against short guys women still wouldn't be attracted to them. Every asshole has an opinion. This is no different. That's the real truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:48 PM
2

Shortness denotes inferior genes which is unattractive. Cite? Or did you just pull that out of your ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 11:45 PM
1

Termagants?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 12:05 AM
2

I don't know, man. It seems like some girls are slutty and other's aren't. However, what I see in my real life is far different than what social media or TRP seems to suggest. I choose to believe what I see in real life than how other people say it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 11:24 PM
2

But that's like a joke. Unless, you turn out to be some type of celebrity, this will never be your reality. It's a complete fantasy. So what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/16 10:18 PM
1

Wow. All I can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/16 09:33 AM
1

this college aged girl is so awe struck by this 40 y/o guy... Because he's internalized TRP. DUH. Once you do that, they all just fall in your lap.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:44 PM
1

What are you gonna do tell on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:33 PM
1

Closest I've seen is this dude in his early 40's dating (and I think marrying) a girl in her late 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 08:31 PM
1

I don't necessarily consider it to be a bad thing. It is what it is. Usually, the novelty will wear off once I actually get to know the person. I don't expect you to understand being a woman. I bet a lot of guys feel the same way as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 01:23 AM
1

If you actually talk to women like they are just regular people, you quickly realize that they are just normal people just like you. I wish I could. The problem is I want to fuck any half decent looking one I see. It kind of messes with my head a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 12:50 AM
1

Sure, but also business, real estate, science, economics, psychology, sociology, philosophy, art, literature, music, etc. I generally am interested in those topics as well but don't find them to be good conversation. With the exception business and money related matters, I think they're too abstract which is why people generally don't like to discuss them. If I can't talk to someone politics or religion without that someone getting offended, I don't want them as a friend. It does help that I can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 11:27 PM
1

I guess women deserve the shit they get for different reasons. It seems like a self-reinforcing cycle. Women desire strong, aggressive men. Men act strong, aggressive and do something terrible. Women get turned on and fuck them anyways. Both are superficial. Both are selfish. Both can be cruel animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:39 PM
1

Without a doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 09:13 PM
3

You've made your point already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:52 PM
1

What makes him a loser?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:03 PM
2

Ok, fair enough. They generally tend to prefer taller men. I don't think that can be debated. I just don't buy into the "genetically superior" argument. Appearances can be deceiving. Perhaps, women would be wise to gauge how strong a man is based off more than just his size. If I had to make an argument, I would just say that they are foolish and out of touch with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 08:01 PM
3

This is certainly not always true. Especially, in the context of a real fight, not a staged contest with rules and a referee like you see in the UFC. All it takes is one puncture with a spear or a swift club over the head, and the fight is over. Agility can be every bit of a factor as strength when you look at it from this angle. Nothing counts more than skill and experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:50 PM
5

Yeah, what evidence do we have to conclude what is "genetically superior?" Short men typically require less calories, are generally more agile, have better endurance and can run longer distances. They also tend to live longer than their tall counterparts. There's lots of evidence to show that being short has its advantages. You just assume that tall = superior. Maybe women generally prefer taller men as a result of our culture. I remain skeptical overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:24 PM
5

LOL. Most white women wouldn't touch a 5'5 man with a ten foot poll unless he was very good looking, high status, or there was a rumor he had a 9 inch penis. I'm 5'4". Slept with 16 women. Fucked around plenty. You can suck it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:18 PM
3

At 5'9", I don't think it is a big deal. Especially, considering the fact that it doesn't affect you because you're not actually short. Some of us weren't born with that advantage. Let's just say people can be pretty big assholes when it comes to this topic. Calling short guys midgets or manlets is totally acceptable and people just laugh it off. Girls have no problem saying they don't like short men. I've experienced it in my life plenty of times. It sucks. But what can you do? I get by as best…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:12 PM
1

Oh man, that would be depressing if discussing real topics turned into people trying to show off or arguments most of the time. Like politics or religion? Is this what you mean by "real" topics? Because there's a reason people say you shouldn't talk about these things in polite company. Yes they do talk about applicable or relevant things, but it's still about trivial things more often than not. I don't consider that to be real conversation over talking about serious topics. Different strokes. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:28 PM
1

Far more often than not, if they're talking to each other, they will bring up nothing serious. Just like the average mediocre uneducated girl. It's mind boggling. I can chill and let them talk about what they want, and this happens time and time again. Sure I can bring up more real topics and get something going more, but even then, it's mostly pointless. They don't engage in serious back and forth the way men will about most topics. At best she may have an opinion or two and can give her view, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 11:59 AM
1

However I'll just take what you said at face value. Well, you should. Because there is no indicator that you should think otherwise. I just happen to think that men deserve a lot of the shit they receive because as a whole, they have been pretty horrible to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 07:48 AM
1

Yes. Absolutely. Happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 05:31 AM
1

Not at all. I'm a fan of both. Ridicule women as much as you want. Just tired of hearing the crying from TRP about how mean society is to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/16 04:12 AM
1

The question is do men deserve the ridicule they receive?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:59 PM
1

That's cool. You like what you like. But to base your decision of choosing on a partner based on shoes. Nothing more than a current fashion trend. Just comes off as overly superficial to me. Especially when you look through history and see that fads come and go. Heels are probably no different.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:28 PM
2

When its sparest between 1-2 year long dry spells, it sure doesn't feel that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:47 PM
2

That's utterly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:45 PM
1

I don't see what the big deal is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:37 PM
3

I can't for a second believe that any rational person would consider a man who is 6'2" to be short.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:36 PM
5

Short men require less calories and generally live longer. Also, as a short man, I generally could run faster and longer than guys bigger than I am. The Evo-psych argument for height is crap. Otherwise, there would only be tall men walking the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:48 AM
1

Don't wear heels? Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:46 AM
5

I think the difference is in why the preferences are there in the first place. Big tits are desired in a sexual way. Guys want to fuck girls with big tits. However, guys want to fuck regardless and will still fuck if she has small tits. Height goes beyond sexual attraction for women. Height is not only sexually attractive to women, but also a requirement in a long term partner. For that reason, it matters more to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 07:33 AM
2

No, It doesn't work like that. Short, average, and tall all fall within a spectrum of height differential. Most people consider a standard deviation of 2 in as a benchmark. That means shirt is 5'7" and shorter. Average is 5'8" - 5'11". Tall is 6'0" and above.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:31 AM
2

I go through long dry spells with the occasional fling, one night stand or short term relationship. 16 notches on my belt. A couple BJ's and countless nights of heavy petting on nights out. I think I've mostly underperformed though. I've managed to gain some real attention from a couple beautiful girls but never sealed the deal. My biggest problem was never my height. It was my attitude. That's all in the past. Now I'm 30, and I feel like the game is about to end for me. I need to find a wife qu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 06:23 AM
6

So James Franco is 5'7", Justin Bieber is 5'9" and Zack Efron is 5'8" but you still think they are hot. That's great. However, you do realize the average height of men in the U.S. is approximately 5'9"? This means that out of those three men, only one is on the cusp of what is actually considered short. That makes your example invalid and shows that your idea of what is a short man is skewed. Short is 5'7" and below. What do you think now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 05:46 AM
5

I tend to disagree. I stand at approximately 5'4" and I feel the bias against short men is much stronger than that of non D-cup women. In fact, the difference is quite apparent to me. Men (including myself) tend to prefer big breasted women. What can you say? It's attractive. However, there are other factors to take into the equation. Shape, perk, and symmetry can all make or break the breast. Smaller boobs but more proportioned can be more attractive than plain DD's. Furthermore, men's taste in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:16 AM
1

That's a dead sub in general. I spend a lot of time at r/watchpeopledie
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:33 PM
1

Ok fair enough. I guess I would be mostly interested in a sub that focuses on the dark psychology of humans as a whole. I think TRP does such a good job demonizing women that I'd like to see what they say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:25 PM
2

I mean I just don't know what your talking about lol. We were discussing TRP and why it only shits on women and not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:13 PM
1

That's great. Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 08:09 PM
1

Did you mean to say "nope?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 06:47 PM
2

Can't think your past dick?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:49 PM
1

In everyday conversation as far as I can tell. I mostly by women as well. They tear each other down all the time. I will admit it's the misandry is much more prevalent in the media but I don't care much for that. I don't think it's an honest reflection of our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:45 PM
7

True. Doesn't change the fact that men commit the majority of crime and violence. You can go tit for tat all day long. The point is that both men and women can be equally shitty and everyone knows it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 02:12 AM
7

It's not the whole truth. People demonize women all the time. Maybe not as much as men, but enough to get the point across that women are not perfect angels. Of course, the shit that women do is not always on the same scale as men either. When you talk crime and violence, it's almost always men perpetuating these acts. So perhaps men have earned their reputations in some ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:36 AM
7

Yes, that is always the go to RP response. You guys are like a fucking broken record. Get some new material.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 01:19 AM
4

Agreed 100%. The hate speech is what I like and hate most about TRP. The sub can really delve deep into the dark psychology of human nature and give you a wake up call. It's just strange that the seem to focus only on the bad side of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:59 AM
5

I have met selfish girls, but they were mostly young and grew out of it. I don't understand why the rps have so much hate, when I feel as a person I don't fit that mold of the women they are talking about and I know many others do not either. In TRP's defense, who's actually going to admit to being one of "those girls?" It would take an awful woman who is at the same time extremely self aware to come right out and admit that she is selfish, greedy, manipulative, etc.. That would be quite a post …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:50 AM
1

Career can be whatever - who cares this day and age. Anyone over the age of 25? That is people interested in relationships leading to a family. Money's a very important factor. The relationship won't last without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:47 AM
1

Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 02:44 AM
2

I do. So does every other guy. It's not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:25 AM
1

I never even said prime girls. The 20 year olds that I bang are like 5's and 6's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:25 AM
1

Short?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:34 AM
2

If anyone could become famous that would negate the whole idea of being famous. Just not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:31 AM
1

Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:18 AM
2

Yet, here I am at 30 banging 20 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:54 AM
1

From my own experience, I can say that wrestling was my saving grace. I'm short, not particularly smart or talented, not particularly smooth and prone to addictive and self-destructive behaviors. If it wasn't for wrestling, I could have easily ended up as an addict or incel type.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:45 AM
2

Maybe because he's fucking famous? Please give this stupid example a break. It's a fluke.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:41 AM
1

Okay sure....
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:35 AM
2

I wish there was a private, regimented organization that put young men through very tough (possibly life-threatening) challenges (that existed outside of the military which comes with many downsides), because I think that is exactly what incels and so many young men need. They need life thrust upon them in a controlled manner with a mentor guiding the process, so they can bond with those around them and develop their resistance to fear and their physical and mental strength. Something like that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:32 AM
1

Foucalt? Do tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:22 AM
1

Men are our enemy because men committ the majority of all crimes compared to women. I don't see what that has to do with Feminism/Marxism. I appreciate your comments and thoughtful objections to the OP. You make some valid points. What I would ask is do men act the way they do because women reward them for it? I think human behavior is mostly based off incentive. Men seek power, money and fame because women fuck those guys. It's why we have millions of little boys putting all their efforts towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:19 AM
2

How are feels not real?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 04:10 PM
2

I played sports growing up as a kid. I'd say it developed my character just as much as the education itself. Most guys don't play sports just to get girls. They do it because they enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 01:15 AM
5

Because emotions are not true?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 01:06 AM
1

The thing with celebrities is that they are indeed good looking, but at the same time only human. Girls wouldn't become hysterical or obsessed with these men if they were just ordinary joes. Conversely, it does not seem as though men are as prone to these wild emotions when it comes to female celebrities. Goes to show just how much status attracts a woman to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:46 PM
1

What about just your imagination?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 05:38 PM
1

Yeah, I get that. What I don't get is why this is an actual concern of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/16 10:27 AM
1

Also they're less likely to feel awkward if I'm naked around them when they're older. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:44 PM
1

But I am. There's a big difference between superficial sexual attraction and real sexual attraction. Superficial is what you get when you look at a picture, or across the room at a woman. Real sexual attraction is what you get when you look in her eyes and see she's feeling the same way you are. That's just one of the many very important differences between online dating and real life. Just because you don't see it that way, doesn't mean it's not true for others.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:28 PM
2

Look, I told you the way I see it. If that's not good enough for you then fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 11:14 PM
3

You'd be surprised. Women are quickly filling up the ranks of Doctors in the medical field. The hospital where I work, has an even 50/50 split of men and women amongst their residents.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:20 PM
4

Except, if you're RP, you're mostly muscle. Cause we lift.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:12 PM
1

Well, in my experience, I've never actually felt an attraction for a person until I looked them in the eyes. If they gave me the look back, then I knew it was on. That's probably the biggest factor that is entirely non-existent in a dating profile. Not to mention all the flirting, getting to know each other stages that occur naturally in the real world. All of them are completely removed on a dating site. Instead, you get a few pictures, some random info in the "about me" section and a cheap rep…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 10:10 PM
0

BS. It's not the same in any meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/16 09:47 PM
1

Wow. Judging by your posts, you've had quite a change of heart.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/16 06:40 AM
0

What exactly was going on?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:10 AM
1

Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/16 12:03 AM
1

That's just your definition of Beta. I call it just being a reasonable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 10:34 PM
1

Alright I guess you got a point. Still, I think what you're saying is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 09:43 PM
1

But it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 07:18 PM
7

I'm a 30 year old man and still single. I'm about 5'4", white and have red hair. I seem to appear 100% irish, even though it only makes up a quarter of my ethnicity. I have an athletic build and cocky demeanor developed from years of wresting as a kid, but I still carry a very youthful and friendly smile. People always say I look like Michael j. Fox, Seth Green, Ed Sheeran, or whatever celebrity of the day fits that description. My usual day consists of going to work and coming home. I have a ps…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:39 AM
2

You can look up all the studies and come up with any theory that you want. All I will say is to look at the world around you. The buildings, roads and machines were all built and maintained by men. This is undeniable. Entire societies are dependent on man's hard labor and ingenuity. Women maintain men. They are the incentive that drive men to produce and the comfort to keep them sane. Not to say that women can't hold their own in the world, but there is a reason you don't see them in the trades …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 08:31 AM
2

It's irrelevant because an average income of 250k goes beyond the scope of what is considered middle class. The vast majority of us will fall into that demographic. That may not be the case for you and that's fine, but you should keep it in the back of your mind when having these discussions. Most people will raise happy families on a much smaller scale and they are by no means poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 06:43 AM
1

No it's certainly not the highest it gets. I'm sure there are communities where 250k is considered average just as there are some where a million is the average. However, that is completely irrelevant to the original point. People can have families on a fraction of that salary. You simply choose not too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 06:20 AM
1

Like where? I'm mostly familiar with the U.S., but even in New York or San Francisco, people manage with much less than 250k. It doesn't get any higher than those two places. So I'm not quite seeing where you get your figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 05:04 AM
1

In what world does <250k even remotely indicate that a person is poor? The median income for a family is approximately 50k. People raise families and lead happy, fulfilling lives on that kind of money. Especially conscientious people even manage to own their homes and build retirement savings on that kind of money. You are clearly delusional when it comes to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 04:42 AM
1

Like wisdom? Somehow, I fail to see that as a "beta" trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:52 AM
2

That's not what was said. The statement was that it costs 250k bare minimum to raise a family. That's just a blatantly false statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 02:00 AM
1

People put way too much stock into what the media has to say. Every day I go out into the world and all the scary topics discussed on the Internet are no where to be seen. If you don't care, and the people in your life don't care, then that's all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 01:41 AM
1

250k? Yeah, I don't buy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/16 01:10 AM
1

How so? People adder people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:39 PM
1

Ryan Lochte.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:42 AM
1

More like fight, flight, or come up with an excuse as to why your the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:20 AM
2

I mean there's a lot of truth to it but at the same time there's a lot of BS. Know what I'm saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:18 AM
2

Might be. Might not. It's good to at least see it from both perspectives.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:59 AM
4

That doesn't answer my question. What happens when you go over there and kill innocents? Doesn't that make YOU the dangerous white person? To answer your question -- yeah, maybe we should. Things seemed a lot more stable when guys like Saddam Hussein and Bashar Al-Assad were in power. There certainly was a fair share of corruption but at least the countries hadn't turned into a complete fucking nightmare. The U.S. has a lot of blood on their hands because they stuck their nose where it didn't be…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:37 AM
4

Exceptional life > average life every time. You can get love elsewhere btw. Buy a dog. Yeah, except fucking your dog won't give you a family. Not even mentioning the fact that it's a fucked up thing to do, you freak.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:27 AM
2

Wow. It's kind of crazy to see someone buy into this whole Alpha/Beta dichotomy wholeheartedly. People are people, man. FFS.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:14 AM
2

Hah like the way you put that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:09 AM
2

some of us legitimately want to kill some dangerous people. What happens when you kill innocents instead? Doesn't that just make you the dangerous white person?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:07 AM
1

In what world is it a good idea to teach people, let alone young women, to play the victim and pass the blame? Seriously. That is not going to help anyone in the real world. In the real world, for the average individual, a man or woman needs to learn to fend for themselves. They have to understand that no one is going to improve their station in life more than themselves. They need to realize that their peers and employers don't take kindly to that SJW BS and will replace them if they don't fulf…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 09:21 AM
3

Because Rollo is giving advice to men. Not women. It's not about fair treatment. It's about gaining an advantage. The sooner you realize that, the sooner it will make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:36 AM
1

The answer is quite obviously "No." No need to make a whole thread out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:29 AM
2

Then take it up. Be a stay at home dad if you think it's so great. Let us know how it works out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:04 AM
1

Honestly that posters response didn't deserve the reply you laid out. Give you credit, tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:03 AM
1

I think all 3 are true to an extent but only recently been understanding number 3. Sometimes being over aggressive can seem desperate and turn women off who otherwise might have given you a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:16 PM
1

Desperation and a complete lack of direction. I had no plans for my future and mostly just lived for the weekends. When a girl did show interest, I got attached quick because I felt like a girlfriend is what I needed to be happy. I've turned things around since then but I'm getting older now. I almost feel as if my time for romance has passed. I recognize my height plays a factor but it's not the biggest one IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:01 PM
1

I attribute my lack of success to my frame of mind more than anything else. I've had ample opportunities in my life to hook up with girls and develop meaningful relationships. My actions and life choices have been the major reason I have failed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 07:00 PM
1

Well, wtf else are we to do? Remain single and lonely the rest of your life? I know what TRP has to say, but in real life, all my friends are getting married and starting families. As you get older, the pretty young girls get further and further out of reach. It's a gamble, but at least it's a shot at something besides perpetual loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 05:45 PM
2

That's something that you just can't foresee. Marriage will always be a gamble no matter how compatible the partners might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 04:27 PM
1

I get laid once in a while. I've had 1 year + long dry spells in the past. No the girls aren't monsters but they're certainly not queens either. I'm 30 and I'm still single. When I said I manage, I meant that despite my looks I still manage to enjoy my life. If I can do that at 5'4" you certainly can at 5'9"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 04:24 PM
1

You don't even have a clue what I look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 05:20 AM
1

It's changed so many times its lost all semblance of meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 04:35 AM
2

You're using the instinct argument and I'm just pointing out its flaws. Evidence shows that promiscuous women are often dissatisfied with their marriage and long term prospects. They put off marriage or if they do, they initiate divorce. Yes, in many respects for women, sexual promiscuity = cat lady. Laugh now because a great deal of you will be crying later.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 01:13 AM
3

Because they're all a big fucking joke. I don't know why but people seem to need to identify with something bigger than themselves. It seems as if it gives them some greater meaning to their lives. Me? I identify as a person. Just a man. Labels are for suckers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:30 PM
2

Feminism has a million variations and no fixed definition or objectives....There is no official platform or planks and there's much debate about what equality truly means. Do you not see the problem with this statement? Why would you even adopt a label when you don't even know what it stands for?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:13 PM
1

I don't know man. Just got to work with what you got I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:11 PM
2

Or do you think I'm obligated to believe/accept the slogan just because I identify as Feminist? Yes. That's kind of the point. You take up the label and you take all the baggage that comes with it. You don't get to call yourself a feminist and then make up your own definition of what that means.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:54 PM
1

Yeah, ok bro. Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:50 PM
1

No it isn't. 5'9 is average.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:49 PM
1

Tinder =\ real life
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:48 PM
1

You keep saying that but it doesn't exactly match up with reality. Divorce and single motherhood is at an all time high. That's simply not a good thing for anyone. Maybe you should rethink exactly why no-fault divorces are a "good thing."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:46 AM
2

Yeah, I can understand that. I keep all three in mind. I strive to be Virtous while at the same time not depriving myself of pleasure. I keep TRP stuff in the back of my mind as a means of protection when necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:08 AM
0

Agreed. But the point stands. When a person acts like a child they should be treated like one. When they start to show maturity then they can be treated like an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:43 AM
4

This is precisely why shared values are arguably the most important features in a relationship. Looks fade and the novelty a new partner will wear off. At the end of the day, you are left with who the person really is on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:40 AM
1

Seneca has some funny things to say about Epicureanism. Can't remember exactly what he said but mostly just calling it childish and feminine. However, I think it's a decent route to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:36 AM
1

Yes. It's called r/gooutside
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:33 AM
2

You're making my head hurt. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:23 AM
2

Yeah, so you got no reason to complain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:23 AM
1

To an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:22 AM
3

There's a big difference between porn and real life relationships of men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:22 AM
3

They do have a lot to offer but what they offer are two entirely different things. TRP is Machiavellianism. It's about manifesting power at the expense of everything else. Stoicism is about Virtue. It is about acting virtously in spite of everything you might lose. It is worthwhile to study both philosophies IMO. Makes you a more well rounded person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:20 AM
2

"Waste no more time arguing what a good man should be. Be one." - Marcus Aurelius To be perfectly honest, it is a rather vague concept even if it's central to the philosophy itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:18 AM
3

Then please explain why the banner slogan for women is "EQUAL RIGHTS!"
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:58 AM
2

If you are on the shorter end you understand my dilemma. You're fucking dilemma?? Are you kidding me??? You are 5'9" bro. Just stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:54 AM
0

Act like a child you get treated like a child. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:50 AM
4

Oh Christ will you STFU. I'm 5'4" bro. I manage. You have no problem whatsoever when it comes to height.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:48 AM
2

Bro, it's a damn sin to even use RP and Stoicism in the same sentence . TRP doesn't have the first clue as to what the philosophy is about. Stoicism is about two things primarily. recognizing the difference between what is in your control and what is not. Namely, your attitude being the only thing you truly can control. Acting in accordance with Virtue. Now, TRP might blabber on about controlling your emotions, but they in no way embody this philosophy. The simple idea of a "anger phase" is anat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:20 AM
1

Yeah, but those instincts don't exactly match up with modern society. In many, many ways. RP not saying you can't ride the CC, it's just saying we won't marry you, if you do. Have fun with your cats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:11 AM
1

Well, it's not like any of us were those people. So that argument doesn't exactly fit. Two wrongs don't make a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:09 AM
3

Why can't people just be fucking honest about this shit. Ok, bro. Do you even live on planet earth? Next time one of your buddies gets his heartbroken, just tell him it's because, "you weren't hot enough."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:05 AM
5

I think it's just the huge discrepancy in what is considered attractive. The bar is set so much higher for men, while men crave sex so much more. The power imbalance is highly shifted in women's favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:01 AM
1

I'd be willing to bet that nearly any man, no matter how good looking, would get called a creep if he approached a woman in real life in this manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:55 AM
3

See, this type of shit is where you lose all credibility. Woman tells her experience of being a fat girl, and you completely dismiss it. But you still expect sympathy for your point of view? No, bro. It goes both ways. If you can't accept that then you're just not mature or intelligent enough to have this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:53 AM
1

No but I'm still myself. I'm perfectly comfortable with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 11:39 AM
1

But it's not meaningless. Because you cannot truly ever be anything but yourself. To try to be something else, is to be a phony and there's nothing more unattractive. As far as the Chad analogy goes, that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:34 AM
1

Well, those people just aren't fit for the modern world. It's just another version of the same disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:17 AM
1

Reminds me of Mr. Rogers. "It's you I like." I think there's a lot of wisdom in TRP theory, but I think it only tells one side. It focuses on our selfish, superficial, self-centered instincts. It's all about power. Concepts like trust, honesty, loyalty, are entirely foreign to TRP. However, if you ask me, it's what's really important in life. http://youtu.be/CP_cLHIYGiI
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:10 AM
1

A question no RP has ever been able to answer for me. If you are not yourself, then who exactly are you supposed to be? Just be yourself is truly great advice. It just takes a deep, inner reflection to understand the meaning behind it. TRP doesn't get it because they're too preoccupied with their ideal stereotypical version of "Chad." Sadly, something they will likely never be.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:00 AM
1

This is where TRP gets it entirely wrong. Marrying a woman who wants nothing more than to be a SAHM is a recipe for disaster. If you two get divorced, she is taking you for all you got and there is no recourse. Kind of like a make your bed now lie in it type of situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:50 AM
2

I mean is she financially responsible? Cause I feel like the type of chick that does porn for a living might actually a decent amount of money before they hit 30. I guess that would make me a gold digger but I don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:48 AM
1

Everybody's talking about it. Well, I actually do it. Just go for it, man. Most girls are receptive if you're cool. It's how I got with my last GF.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:34 AM
1

Damn. So true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:29 AM
3

Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 07:24 AM
1

Maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 09:14 AM
1

Yeah, precisely.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:18 PM
1

Some might even say unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:33 PM
1

At the time I dropped that ultimatum I had no leverage at all. Ultimatums are beta/omega shit anyway. Nah. I'd just call that keeping it real. Believe it or not, you did have the power. Ultimately, the one who cares less is the one who holds the reigns. Right then and there, it was you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:32 PM
1

Yep. Certainly grounds for terminating a marriage. Your wedding vows can only go so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:28 PM
1

How would you describe it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:21 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:12 PM
1

Why what's wrong with co-ed gyms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:33 PM
2

Any gym period. Even those ones like planet fitness still have more men than women. The only exception might be a women's only gym but that's not exactly fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 07:32 PM
3

Why don't men do that? They absolutely do. I'm so sick of this idea being tossed about that women put the most effort into their looks. The real question is why don't women put in more effort towards their looks? Have you ever stepped foot in a gym? I guarantee at any given time, in any given gym, there will be a 10:1 guy-girl ratio. Staying fit and healthy is the biggest difference maker when it comes to looks. Nothing else can compare. Make-up wears off, as does tanning and clothing can only h…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:41 AM
1

You talk about all this RP rhetoric as a result of their inability to get laid without recognizing the validity behind their claims. The natural order of the SMP has been entirely subverted due to medical advancements and attitude change in our culture. The power dynamic largely favors the majority of women and the few men at the top. If birth control, abortion, child support and welfare were not a thing, then the dynamic would be more fair. However, that is obviously not the case. As it stands …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 04:32 AM
1

It really depends. Considering the SMP is highly skewed in wens favor, she might consider it as only a minor setback. Finding a replacement will not take her long.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 04:13 AM
1

Unless you do the same thing first. Any woman I've fucked and become attached to first has been repulsed by that behavior. TRP is correct when they say that women are the gatekeepers of sex while men are the gatekeepers of a relationship. Going against this norm is typically a recipe for failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 04:08 AM
12

It's just sex because modern medicine and culture has found ways to mitigate the consequences of it. Pregnancy is a natural consequence of sex. The birth of a child is recognized as the most significant event in a large percentage of most ordinary people's lives. In the past, pregnancy could often result in the woman suffering a painfully brutal death. There was significant reason and incentive to partake in it wisely. However, science and medicine has come along and provided us with a plethora …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 03:58 AM
1

With some of these guys it's difficult to discern what exactly is true and what is exaggerated, and what is their best option in life. As a guy that only stands 5'4", I understand what it's like to be rejected, ridiculed even, for something that is completely beyond your control. It hurts deeply. People reject you and treat you as inferior based on a trait that is completely insignificant with regards to your character, intelligence and who you are as a person. Unfortunately, first impressions c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 06:38 AM
9

You'd really have a fat, ugly 18yo than a good looking, fit 30yo? Seems strange but whatever. Clearly taking it too far. I've seen women in their 40's that look better than some 20 y/o
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:55 PM
1

Working as a nurse, I see people everyday with severe debilitating illnesses that leave them incapable of performing even the most menial task. They still have family come visit regularly. Utility might factor into it but some relationships are based on loyalty more than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:51 PM
1

Well I'd have to read it myself to see what they mean. Got a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 08:37 PM
1

"It is not that we have a short space of time, but that we waste much of it. Life is long enough, and it has been given in sufficiently generous measure to allow the accomplishment of the very greatest things if the whole of it is well invested. But when it is squandered in luxury and carelessness, when it is devoted to no good end, forced at last by the ultimate necessity we perceive that it has passed away before we were aware that it was passing. So it is—the life we receive is not short, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 03:11 AM
1

I know two friends who are in ltrs but still have hook ups. Nice friends you have there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:50 AM
1

Give me a break. It could've turned into something if you gave it a chance. Instead of the same old repeated arguments we have here everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:39 AM
1

Agreed. Our deepest cultural value in western society is to be really HAWT. It's quite pathetic when you think about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:33 AM
1

Care to name these books?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:09 AM
1

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:09 AM
5

Perfection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:04 AM
1

what would you do if all you got from people was rejection all your life? Find a way to fix it. Feeling sorry for yourself will do them no good.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 01:03 AM
1

I stand 5'4" so I suppose I'll chime in. Most anything that's to be said about this topic, has already been said. I'll try to keep my personal opinion out of it. Just give you the stats. I've slept with 15 girls all of which were only moderately attractive, but none of which were downright ugly. Like 5's and 6's. Many of them were one night stands. Some were 2-3 month flings. Never had a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:41 AM
1

Absolutely. Although, I'm surprised to hear that people you talk to are concerned with gender inequality. Especially, such a frivolous issue as establishing gender-neutrality in our language. That seems far beyond the concern of anyone I speak to in real life. Where are you from and who do you have these conversations with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:15 AM
1

Perhaps, you are correct that TRP is not suited for modern society. However, I can't help but think that TRP corresponds with Traditionalism which was considered the norm throughout our history as a society. Many RP members even will say that it is the natural order of our species. If this is true, then shouldn't we assume it will inevitably be understood and accepted at large?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:05 AM
1

Agreed for the most part. However, my point is this 1% is quite significant. These men often have major shifts in their own ideology and can influence the people around them. If the changes prove to be effective, other men will be more inclined to explore them. It's a ripple effect. Will TRP become mainstream? If so, how much longer do you think it will be?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:26 AM
1

Issues such as the wage gap, rape culture, and every little micro -aggression that feminism rants about have largely been discredited. It doesn't seem to matter. They still go on and on about it to no end. Here is a prime example. Stacey Dash interviewed by Meredith Viera discussing "the wage gap." http://youtu.be/68rpl0rFQTU Stacey Dash leads with such an uplifting statement. She says, "it's (the wage gap) an excuse. If there are opportunities, seize them. Be prepared to be extraordinary." Unfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:49 AM
1

The what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:54 PM
3

Quite rare in my opinion. Women are obsessed with height.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:20 PM
1

No it isn't. Not at all. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:14 PM
2

You can always tell who is not short because they act like they know what they're talking about when it comes to this subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:07 PM
2

My first thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:02 PM
1

You can't exactly take steps to change your height or your receding hairline. Many women will outright reject and mock you for such things. Other things such as your SES are very difficult to change, and some people just aren't capable of it. The point is you will do far better for this world if you showed sympathy rather than scorn. The world is already harsh enough. We don't need to be tearing each other down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 10:09 PM
1

It is such an easy problem for us to fix too. All we have to do is not treat them like shit and stop dismissing their problems. Then they become part of our group and they no longer have to seek belonging from a label. Pretty much this. Except, this requires effort. It's so much easier to refer to them as "subhuman scum."
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:55 PM
1

Harsh. It's easy to say such things when you are not that person. Keep that in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 09:52 PM
1

In other words, you are completely missing the point. Women select for violent men. Aggression and violence is inherent in men because women find those traits attractive. The blame goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:21 PM
1

Hypergamy. Why do women fuck these dudes at the top and have their babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:16 PM
3

The three just from three different women is the crazy part.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 10:24 AM
2

I don't think you're being realistic. People that don't share similar financial values typically aren't compatible. A frivolous person and a frugal person are going to bump heads on a regular basis. Things like housing, cars and food eats up most of the average persons budget. The beauty of a relationship is that you get to share the bulk of those expenses with someone you enjoy spending time with. If you two can't find common ground on these aspects there will be a great deal of tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:12 AM
3

Yeah, until one of your side chicks has your baby and fucks everything up. Things don't always work out according to plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:02 AM
2

Hah whoops. You know what I was trying to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:54 AM
4

With 3 different baby mommas! Are you crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:53 AM
1

That might work for you now. But what about when you want to buy a house? Have kids? Retire? These things take lots of money and planning. Not just you do your thing and I'll do mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:52 AM
12

Because it's trashy and despite what TRP fantasy might suggest is not a good practice in reality. Dwight Howard has eight children with 8 different kids. This is pretty much the epitome of RP alpha. One can only imagine the drama and general craziness that man deals with on a daily basis. http://www.starpulse.com/houston-rockets-dwight-howard-makes-peace-with-his-pack-of-baby-mamas-1848575516.html
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:46 AM
1

I think you guys put too much emphasis on status. You can maybe get a golddigger partner but actual companionship has little to do with money. I met a guy on a dating website that had more money than he knew what to do with. Dated him for about a month because he was nice. But he really didn't have a personality and I couldn't connect with him on any other level than two people being nice to each other. I have a hard time wrapping my head around this. As a guy, I find it highly important that a …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:40 AM
2

Except when it comes to physical fitness. There is probably nothing more important to maintaining your looks than to stay fit and not be fat but that is beyond most women's comprehension. It's at least 10:1 guy-girl ratio in any gym at any given time. Putting on makeup and nice clothes is easy. Actually taking the time to mold your body and adhere to a strict diet and lifestyle takes work.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:15 AM
2

Not dirty in the sense that a plumber or construction worker is a dirty job. Most doctors sit in air conditioned buildings and look at computer screens all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:51 AM
2

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:49 AM
1

Sure, I may be able to search divorce and get many articles from different publications. The same might be true of false DV charges or false rape accusations. I could probably look up individual cases where men get more severe punishments for commuting the same crime. Fortunately, TRP provides all that and more in one convenient location. Can you show me anything on the internet that resembles that type of resource for men that would be considered outside of the manosphere? Because, if there's l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 11:47 PM
1

Yep, just as I thought. You can't answer my question can you? There is no other community online for men to discuss these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:57 PM
1

Where else are those topics discussed? Where can men vent about the injustice they face? What online community offers support for these situations? As far as I can tell, there is none. If you could maybe dial back your hubris, and quit with the unnecessary personal insults, we might be able to have a decent discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 05:47 PM
1

Ok, bro. For real go fuck yourself. You don't know me just cause you read through my search history. I did answer your question. All of those topics I listed are exclusive to TRP/MRA. You're just too full of yourself too admit that I have a point. I don't even know why I'm bothering with this discussion as it's just a complete waste of time. You have no interest in my point of view. Only your own. Is there a lot of stupid shit said in TRP? Absolutely. Do I follow it to a T? Absolutely not. I pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 05:13 PM
1

You asked me what I find helpful about TRP that is helpful and I told you. I was completely unaware of the issues I mentioned before I found the sub. But you're not interested in a discussion. You're just interested in being right. This whole time I haven't once insulted you and yet you feel the need to keep making assumptions about me. So, fuck off. I'm done with this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 03:28 PM
1

Man, some things you can't put a price tag on. I pray for your sanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:33 AM
3

Sometimes, you're better off just dying. Strokes and other ailments can severely impact a persons quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 06:21 AM
1

Agreed. If not yourself, who are you supposed to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/16 03:08 AM
2

I just don't understand how people take those posts seriously. They're about as flagrant as TRP field reports. The first comment is a guy saying, "I believe you." Like, how you just going to believe some internet stranger based on their word alone? Does the idea of evidence or due process mean nothing to these people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 10:35 PM
1

Well, first off I'm not a terper. I'm just a man. A person like anyone else. I don't do labels so you got that much wrong so far. If your looking for a basis in reality to support TRP, then just look at the state of relationships today. Men are expected to assume the role of provider, yet lose everything they've worked for when she filed for divorce. She will retain custody in almost every case. He will pay child support or they'll send him to jail. There are literally thousands of stories of me…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 04:45 PM
2

What a joke. If men and women walked away from each other, what exactly are they going to do with their lives? Fact of the matter is, relationships with the opposite sex is the most important part in the average persons life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 05:57 AM
1

Oh I can handle the criticism just fine. You don't see me lambasting groups of people as "idiots" and "losers." That's you. I just have an open mind. When I look at the world around me, and all the ridiculous shit people do, TRP is positively tame. The worst suggestion they make is to be selfish and focus only on your needs. Big whoop. We all have the capacity to be selfish, self-centered, greedy, callous fucks. TRP just shines a spotlight on that behavior and aims it particularly at women. Are …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 03:11 AM
1

You sound awfully sure of yourself. However, the common theme in all your ramblings is not TRP content itself, but the guys who discuss it. They are all "losers" and "idiots" unlike you who is "successful" and "smart." I don't even know why you bother posting on this sub. You're obviously too good for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:25 PM
1

Your generalizing far too much. Not every guy on TRP is as desperate or hopeless or angry or clueless as you are making them out to be. People learn by two methods: experience and observation. TRP guys who are unsuccessful with women may lack their own experience, but they are not blind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:30 PM
7

No, I understand. Women exact revenge by proxy. They get the police, or their relatives, or really any other man to do their dirty work for them. I just find that women more often than not would rather just walk away from a situation than get revenge. Generally when a woman gets angry, she has people she can reach out to her who will listen to her problems. This greatly reduces the hurt she is feeling and goes a long way in preventing her from making any rash decisions. Men don't have these supp…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 09:16 AM
10

It just depends. Yes, I agree that men are more easy going in some cases. However, there is a dark underbelly to men that is impossible to ignore. The anger and rage that brews in some of their hearts is unmatched by women. It's evident by all the violence committed by the hands of men. I just don't see those types of emotions fester in women to the same degree. They might bitch and complain constantly. They might hold grudges. They might be extremely petty and uncooperative. What they won't do …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 08:42 AM
2

Because most people choose to pick which aspects work for them, and discard the rest. Exactly what TRP suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 08:19 AM
12

its almost like there is a difference in testosterone. You seem to have a dangerously low amount, which likely influenced your life. Bro, just stop. I wrestled since I was in 2nd grade. I faced off against some of the best people this country has to offer and held my own. I know what it means to be tough. Again, we're discussing ideas here - not each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 08:08 AM
1

Well, we all have our own perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:43 AM
1

Well, that's simply not something a good captain should do. But if you fear this type of scenario occurring, then maybe your just not cut out to be in a relationship. That's perfectly fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:34 AM
12

Well, I use the phrase easy going for a variety of reasons. For one, I've never had a woman try to fight me for looking at her the wrong way. Can't say the same thing about men. Two, women tend to be a lot more forgiving and understanding than men from what I can tell. Men are usually too busy establishing a pecking order and ganging up on the guy at the bottom. Please, don't comment on my personal life. We are discussing ideas here.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:32 AM
2

Funny you used that word "almost." Is a man's self-esteem somehow less important than a womans?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:13 AM
2

BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:11 AM
2

Well, not feminine according to TRP definition. But that's besides the point. Who says you would not benefit? A loving relationship should always be mutually beneficial. This concept is not alien to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:10 AM
14

If possible, the overwhelming majority of men would rather not deal with women outside of sex. Men just don't need women in the way that women emotionally need men. You just take it too far here. I don't mind women's company at all. In fact, I often find them far more easy going than men which is something I consider very important in a relationship. Furthermore, a life without women's company would be insufferably bland. We absolutely need them in our lives to feel any sort of normalcy. This is…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:07 AM
3

Personally, I think it's silly. There is no substitute for the real thing. However, it's not completely out of the realm of possibility. Take a person who get's addicted to Opiates. They will forgo all relationships, responsibilities and generally enjoyable activities to get their hands on it. It's their number one desire above everything else. Including the opposite sex. Just goes to show how malleable we really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 07:02 AM
9

What? If anything, TRP theory suggests that women would not do this because it goes against their feminine nature. What they would end up doing is fall in line. Remember, Captain/First Mate? However, if this does not suit women it doesn't mean they have to drop out of the dating game completely. RP men are completely fine with women who choose to ride the CC and live life on their own terms. What we have a problem with are the women who want it both ways. The women who choose to fuck around with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:58 AM
2

Does he lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:52 AM
2

Don't you consider that kind of close minded? I mean you can disagree with it, and call it terrible, but to say that you should completely stay away from it seems to go too far IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:50 AM
1

It's just a phase.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:48 AM
1

Does he lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:47 AM
3

Had the same experience. I find it funny because it's pretty much exactly what TRP predict they will say. That alone is enough to tell me there is most certainly a grain of truth in what they have to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:45 AM
2

But are they wrong? Attack their character all you like, but that doesn't mean they are stupid. In fact, I would say that while your average man who has success with women is too involved with his relationship to think about these concepts abstractly. RP men have a lot more time on their hands to dissect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:42 AM
3

Yes. It was quite predictable. They mocked me and asked if I hate women? Which is funny because that's pretty much exactly what TRP says that people will say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 06:34 AM
1

A victim can not, by definition, be a 'snitch.' Yes, they most certainly can. Happens all the time. but I'm beginning to think you are accusing the rapee of a being a snitch, and that is very morally and linguistically wrong. Yes, that is what I'm saying. Believe me, I understand how morally wrong it is to say that. I simply despise the police and our criminal justice system that much that turning to them for help is simply never an option to me. If they weren't so utterly corrupt, I'd easily ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 05:46 AM
1

How are you even on this sub if you don't know what I'm talking about? Look it up!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 06:29 PM
1

Still, she could've chosen not to call the cops or press charges. I know it's a ludicrous thing to say but I can't help but think it in the back of my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 06:29 PM
1

You must be new here. :) Look up the recent rape case at Stanford university. Apparently, a highly talented male swimmer raped a young girl at a campus party. All the evidence suggests that an assault took place and the young man is guilty of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 05:29 AM
2

Give me a break. It's a language, not a vocabulary. You're just being obtuse because you made a silly, indefensible statement. Give it up already. We are the same. We both eat, sleep, shit and smell. We both are emotional and moody. We both are shallow. We both must work to make money to survive. We both crave intimacy and a family. We both eventually grow old and die, if we are lucky to make it that long. When you look at the big picture, the differences between us are trivial. We have far more…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/16 05:22 AM
2

I think I can see it from both angles. On a personal level, I tend to shy away from calling the police in all cases and opt to take the law into my own hands. The other, likely more rational, part of me says that vigilantism and mob rule is generally a very bad thing. That there is a need for an overall authority who can give people due process before they are sentenced.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:41 PM
1

Okay...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:37 PM
1

I wouldn't snitch. It reminds me of that case recently with that girl who got raped by the swimmer. I agree that it was wrong what he did and he should receive consequences, but I just can't help but think in the back of my mind that she's a snitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:14 PM
2

Ok, but unlike your dog, you and your ex-wife could discuss complex topics because you both speak the same language.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:17 PM
2

You literally wrote that women and men are different species. I'm sure you were saying this in jest but it's clear that you intended to make a point with this phrase. I call that crazy because men and women are much more alike than they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:05 AM
1

Not anymore, unfortunately. Just a plain old monkey these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:03 AM
1

Now that's Red.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:55 AM
1

No family in your future, I suppose?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:47 AM
0

Would you say that women's love is somehow inferior or deficient as compared to a man's?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:46 AM
1

Actions speak louder than words.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:44 AM
1

And if one of these random attractive girls gets pregnant and decides to have your baby? Then what? Surely, your SO and yourself have discussed this highly volatile situation that you have put yourselves in...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:34 AM
1

Exactly. Everyone is basically telling him that these situations are so rare that they essentially don't exist. Yet, /u/heathcliff-- thinks he's a special snowflake and that social norms don't apply to him because..... TRP told him so. What a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:29 AM
1

I hear about men and women who try this poly thing while trying to maintain a normal relationship. From my observation, it doesn't ever seem to work out. In fact, it happens to blow up in their faces quite often. Good luck to you. But just know that if you play with fire, you just might get burned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:25 AM
1

2,3,1,4. In that order. 2 looks like the type who goes out to party a lot. He looks like a Chad. Might even be in a band. Basically, he puts himself in the position to score with women on a frequent basis. 3 is another Chad, albeit the affluent type. He's probably in a frat, has money, is good looking and runs in social circles with lots of pretty women. 1/4 was a toss up. Huge and black is not particularly attractive to a lot of women IMO. However, I'm sure he does well for himself. The doctor …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:05 AM
1

Not really though. I know plenty of doctors who are not in the best shape. It doesn't matter because they're position is knowledge based. They are busy cultivating their minds, not their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:57 AM
2

Well, isn't it obvious? Men let them get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:53 AM
1

I just say if it makes them happy, then have at it. Some people are fat and are perfectly fine with it. You gotta eat. Honestly, it's you who has the problem here. I can't imagine what would compel someone to hate another just because they are fat. Fucked up, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:53 AM
1

Harsh.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:48 AM
1

In the meantime, men are busy killing each other by the millions from petty personal issues to outright war between different nations. The way you worded it seemed to portray men far too innocently than they typically are.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:48 AM
1

Username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:39 AM
3

No, we are definitely of the same species. I don't know where you heard that crazy idea. Probably TRP or some other sub filled with crazy ass ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:36 AM
1

I think the root issue is that most mens sex drives are insatiable. We desire sex with different women on a highly frequent basis. This can lead men to the idea that "they aren't getting laid." However, I think it is plain to see that certain men are much more popular with the ladies than others. TRP saying that women would rather share an alpha than be stuck with a beta, doesn't seem too far off the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 01:31 AM
1

Nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:17 AM
1

You think abortion is something that most women take lightly?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:30 PM
1

There's this thing called pregnancy and only women can have it. It's a pretty big deal. In fact, it's pretty much the ultimate consequence for having sex. Only womn bear it. This is seemingly missing from your OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 01:55 AM
1

And if this person does exist, it's probably going to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 12:48 AM
1

Yes. You have to be confident. It's the only way to get over a defeatist mentally. You got believe if you want to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 04:57 AM
2

There's shortcomings and there's genuine roadblocks. In some cases, with some women, being short is just a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/16 03:02 AM
1

Alright that's legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 10:58 PM
1

How short?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 05:31 PM
12

No personality is just a term that normal people use when they talk about a person whom they enjoy spending time with. Game is a stupid, made-up word from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/16 05:03 PM
1

Raising children seems to be a pretty big one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/16 08:03 AM
2

You can argue all you want that women are or aren't mature, but I have yet to hear by which mechanism women actually are forced to realize consequences on anywhere the same scale as men. Bills. Pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/16 08:49 PM
1

A better method would be to look at their history. Their friends. Their family. Current interests. Previous relationships. The same type of thing TRP suggests men do when screening women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/16 10:32 PM
1

Ok bro. Like, it's practically common knowledge that strippers have mental issues. I'm done arguing what should be common sense to anyone with half a brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 08:34 PM
1

Or they're young, hot women, with low inhibition doing what young, hot women with low inhibition do, ie. substance and alcohol abuse. Don't see how that's supposed to indicate they don't have low self-esteem. If anything, low inhibition seems to reinforce that notion. I agree, but you previously said women have it just as difficult... In a roundabout way, they do. If you don't test yourself, you don't grow, you don't become stronger. So when a major obstacle does come your way, it overwhelms you…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 05:15 PM
0

Horseshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 08:37 AM
2

Strippers and other similar types are known for their chronic substance abuse. It's basically a hall-mark of Los self-esteem. What I'm trying to say is that the difficult times in life make us grow, but since women are given so much leniency and support in their lives, they never get to experience it. I'm a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:40 AM
-4

Maybe you should stop fucking hoes? Just a thought.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 08:26 AM
2

Hardly. The basis of a relationship is trust, values and attraction. TRP advises men to be entirely independent, trust no one, and value their own selfish interests over everything else. Furthermore, TRP advises men to avoid marriage and children at all costs. It tells men to only date women between the ages of 18-25, and maintain relationships with at least 3-4 of them at a time. It tells men to never show emotion, insecurities, personal fears but instead to be a closed book. So ask youeself, d…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 06:12 AM
1

Cool story, Hansel.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:52 PM
3

They don't. Very few people are this wealthy. I would think those that are not so desperate or stupid to squander it on on some stuck up, spoiled girl. They easily can find other girls who will fuck them for much less. OP's post is by and large a farce.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:52 PM
2

Women make more in their 20's. However, men surpass them in every other age group. Especially, when women drop out of the workforce to have babies. The wage gap is real, but generally for legitimate reasons, such as men working longer hours and in more difficult fields. I don't see stripping or camwhoring as a particularly wise long term career option. If anything, this lowers their self-esteem immensely in the long run. What I'm saying is that despite every advantage, women still are having it …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 08:03 PM
0

Hmm. Must have missed that. Haven't frequented the sub in quite a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:59 PM
0

Exactly. Yet, everyone here will go on like they're an expert. They will talk as if they witnessed it themselves and as if they knew the two individuals intimately. The lack of reasonable doubt people have is astonishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:13 PM
1

That's because they don't advocate for LTR's at all. Women are hoes and incapable of loyalty, according to them. So why would they bother explaining what qualities to look for in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 07:05 PM
1

How do you know all this? I get there is testimony. There are statements and a verdict. But still. I highly doubt you know either of them personally in any way, yet here you are writing long, emphatic paragraphs about her emotional well being. I just don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:14 PM
2

There is no truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:07 PM
2

Ehhhh. I'd say the biggest issue facing most people is a financial one. Women typically make less than men, which means they have even bigger problems than they do. However, this is often alleviated via benevolent sexism (men buying women shit). Still, the point stands. A lot of insecurity arises out of financial desperation. That need is not fulfilled by leeching off of someone else. In fact, I imagine it only makes it worse. So I think it is an actual problem many women face even though they c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 12:06 PM
2

A man wants a woman who is good natured and pretty. You mean women. Multiples of them. Men aren't satisfied with just one. At least, after checking all her boxes a woman can be satisfied with just her man. So in that way the two sexes are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/16 11:56 AM
1

If you have money, then every 20 y.o hottie on planet Earth would marry you. Resources trump and looks. Yeah, I doubt wealthy men frequent TRP to brag about their female conquests. Especially, the type of wealth it would take for a 48 year old to pull hot 20 year olds. Also, that powertalk shit doesn't work here. Man the fuck up when you are around men. You are a retard.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 10:08 PM
1

Sure thing, Casanova. PICS or GTFO.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 09:52 PM
1

I'm just amused by the idea that a 48 year old man thinks a 20 year old girl would marry him. What part of the Middle East did you say you were from again?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 09:33 PM
0

You really think the parents of a 20 year old girl would be cool with her marrying a 48 year old man?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 08:36 PM
2

Honest question. Have you ever met the parents of these 20 year old women you are dating? Surely, if you were to marry them, then you would have to meet her family.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 08:06 PM
1

Have you tried lifting tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/16 07:42 PM
1

Makes sense. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 04:18 AM
1

Yeah, but when did it become cool to be a dickhead?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/16 03:02 AM
4

Figured you'd say that. Fucking nihilists have no shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 04:05 AM
1

Depending on your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:48 AM
2

Well, I am no saint. I have screwed other people over for money in the past too. It's not something I'm proud of. Any average man would choose option B. It takes a man with real pride to choose option A.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:43 AM
2

Because men are not robots and are prone to fears and insecurities just like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:22 AM
3

You speak of it with such pride too!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/16 02:19 AM
1

Better how?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/16 06:07 AM
2

And I did without affirmative consent. Which made it that much better. Ciao.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 03:49 AM
2

We fucked another time after that. Without affirmative consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 12:14 AM
3

Why don't you just answer the question? Was it rape because I didn't get "affirmative consent" beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 06:28 AM
1

Nope. Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:37 AM
7

Well, maybe if you weren't trying to regulate everyone's sex lives, telling us how we should be doing things (your way, of course) then we wouldn't be trying to "get you."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:03 AM
3

Well, obviously she didn't. Otherwise she would've pressed charges. Don't you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 02:01 AM
1

If she had the option of an Alpha, she would drop her loser bf in a heartbeat. But the truth is, she doesn't have the option for an Alpha, which is why she is still with her beta bux for his resources. You assume far too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:24 PM
3

I think the whole Alpha/Beta dichotomy is a bunch of nonsense. People are people. We all basically have the same parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 11:23 PM
2

Man I got four words for you. Vanguard Target Retirement funds. We'll see what's what in about 30 years.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/16 11:17 PM
10

Yeah, but was it rape? I didn't specifically ask for her consent and neither did she.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:39 PM
7

I once had sex with a girl where I don't think we spoke more than a few words to each other before the whole thing was said and done. What do you think about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 10:35 PM
1

What baby steps? Christianity, Islam and all the other organized religions are so transparently false that I don't know how any reasonable person can't see it for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 08:23 PM
-1

This shit is stupid. There are personal finance and financial independence forums that have already thoroughly covered these topics. I suggest you all frequent them before you get some bro advice on finance at TRP. Personal finance is not a complicated subject. Here's a strategy: Live within your means. Avoid debt. Invest wisely. It's really as simple as that. Also, Vanguard index funds.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/16 12:21 AM
8

Why do people pay financial advisors to invest with them when they can do it themselves after a little research? Why don't financial advisors have a fiduciary duty to their clients? I await your response.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/16 12:17 AM
1

Yeah, it's all part of the show. There's no media attention if she doesn't "go public." They're all in on it.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 11:17 AM
1

If you live long enough, COPD will be an issue. It's just a part of life.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 11:14 AM
4

Vanguard, baby. Only way to go.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 11:01 AM
3

Step 1: Lift Step 2: Get money. That's really all there is to it.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 04:58 AM
2

As a dude who only stands 5'4", my saving grace is that I'm jacked and wrestled my whole life which means I can hold my own against most men. If it wasn't for that, I'd probably still be a virgin. Oh yeah and I can lift more than you. Suck it Beanpole!!!!
/r/TheRedPill27/05/16 04:57 AM
1

Well that's the thing. I'm a pretty sweet dude and I try not to care too much about others opinions regarding me. If you don't possess these qualities then it might not work out so well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 06:26 PM
10

Chad the average marriage-minded man with a stable job and family life... Wait a sec. Nevermind.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/16 06:06 PM
1

That's what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:31 PM
3

If you're honest, you're showing yourself for who you are. Take it or leave it. The opposite of insecurity and neediness.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:04 AM
4

This is why I say that looks are overrated. We think they have such high value because that's the first thing people see and what they obsess over, but honestly the novelty will wear off quick. We are all men and women with roughly the same parts. What makes relationships truly work is when couples share the same values. The intangible part of being a person. Because when the looks fade, and the sexual attraction wears off, it's their inner character that will be all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 02:22 AM
1

I'd consider myself average to below average. I'm good looking, fit but quite short. If I was taller if probably be a solid 8 or 9. Unfortunately, I'm not so I rate myself a 6 at best. I guess I realized all this after digesting TRP/PPD. Honestly, it's quite a relief. I don't know why but since accepting that I'm not very sexually attractive, I have felt a thousand times more secure in myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 02:16 AM
5

Girls just like to talk. They never stop talking. They have no filter. They say whatever is on their mind. Sometimes, they talk about things they would be better off not talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 02:10 AM
1

Because they can use their good looks to get their foot in the door at a decent job this profit. Fuck relationships. Get money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 11:54 PM
2

Didn't say chemistry trumps looks. Just saying its a factor. I don't think that can be denied. And i would argue it's far less fickle than looks and tangible as anything else in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:37 PM
1

Maybe because young men and women frivolously spend their money at the bars every weekend in their 20's instead of preparing for a family? At least, that's what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 10:04 PM
2

True. However, not all sexual attraction is based purely on looks. I would posit that a great deal of sexual attraction is based on pure "chemistry" alone. This is why an older man might still find his older wife attractive while thinking all the other women their age are unattractive. Because they have chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 09:59 PM
1

True dat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 09:56 PM
1

Is anal really that important?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 09:48 PM
2

Personally, I was a fan of Gretchen Weiners.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 08:55 PM
1

What other choice do we have? It's a harsh works out there. Someone's got to be the strong one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:53 AM
1

Unless you're beautiful. Then you get whatever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:51 AM
1

It's bullshit. I've been single for 30 years now. I look after myself just fine. I don't know why you keep harping on this idea that men can't "make it on their own" when it's patently false.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 10:18 PM
2

Tax benefits and legal paternal rights. I remember someone asking this same question on AskTRP and a poster replied with a very extensive list of the benefits received raising a child in a married household.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 12:06 PM
1

What choice do I have? Women can't help that they're attracted to tall guys. So why should I take it personal? Instead of making rationalizations like it's not important or you can make up for it with confidence, your brother would be better off to just accept the fact that he is plain unattractive to a significant amount of women and there's nothing he can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:51 AM
0

I don't think you're catching my drift. I'm 5'5". No one is going to mistake me for 5'10" ever. I know most girls find short men unattractive too. I'm just done caring. There are much more important problems in my life that need attention compared to whether some broad thinks I'm hot or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:27 AM
0

I generally don't care at all. Just was curious where you were going with your line of thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:39 AM
0

And if you are short?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:23 AM
1

You put too much stock into what you think other people are going to think. Do what I do. Constantly remind yourself to not give a shit what anyone else thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:22 AM
1

I do it for myself. You don't have to believe me but I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:08 AM
1

You realize this shit is all in your head? I interact with men and women all day long and rarely do I find one that treats me badly solely due to my gender. If I did, I would tell that person to fuck off and that would be that. This whole RP vs. Feminist thing is almost entirely found on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 04:48 PM
1

Why not just be on team people?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 04:30 PM
5

It's not "innocence." Like, it's just being sane. A sane person can't fathom how fucked up you would have to be to tape a 9 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 02:44 AM
1

Defending TRP would basically be career suicide. It's hard to blame him, but at the same time, equally hard to take him seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 02:37 AM
1

I'm thinking Drakkar Noir. Shit is potent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 02:35 AM
1

But I bet you will speak out against the man hating feminists on TwoX? Am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 01:46 AM
1

"But I wish to share with you to-day's profit also. I find in the writings of our[2] Hecato that the limiting of desires helps also to cure fears: "Cease to hope," he says, "and you will cease to fear." "But how," you will reply, "can things so different go side by side?" In this way, my dear Lucilius: though they do seem at variance, yet they are really united. Just as the same chain fastens the prisoner and the soldier who guards him, so hope and fear, dissimilar as they are, keep step togethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 01:44 AM
2

Maybe you're just pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:52 PM
1

Does the idea of building up sexual tension mean anything to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:33 AM
5

Sort of along the lines of this thought. Women and men just have different frequencies of sexual arousal. Mens is instant and ready to go at the drop of a hat. Women's takes a little time. It seems to me that women play coy to build up that sexual tension and give in just when the time is right. Because women are like that and men and women are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:31 AM
4

You never heard of Zyzz? http://d16kc6rd0714uz.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Zyzz-Before-After2.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:10 AM
1

That's kind of odd. I don't know why your friend would think that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:42 PM
1

The issue for your friend is not that girls are shallow. That is plain to see. The real issue for your friend is coming to terms with the fact that he is unattractive. That's what's difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:49 PM
5

I don't see how height and testosterone are indicative of each other. I'd be willing to bet that if you measured testosterone levels in a short man and tall man, there would be no significant difference. Behavioral characteristics are far more indicative in my opinion. Is the man aggressive or timid? Confident or insecure? Ambitious or apathetic? These are the type of qualities I would use to distinguish between a masculine man and a not so masculine man.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:11 AM
4

Go for what you want in life. Leagues are irrelevant and entirely made up in real life. It's just a theory and largely unsubstantiated one. In my personal opinion, attraction is binary. It's 0 or 1. Chemistry is far more important than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 05:08 AM
1

How was Ben Franklin a Chad? The pictures we have show an average height, fat, bald dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:30 AM
1

Except when you think of the great minds in our history, none strike me as a Chad. Newton, Tesla, Einstein, Franklin, Gates. These weren't chads but they benefitted society far more than any Chad ever could.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:19 AM
1

The major factor I consider in marriage is how much money she makes and how responsibly she lives her life. Attractiveness is overrated because so many girls can give me a boner and eventually everyone's looks fade and their sex drive dwindles. N-count and other factors don't matter as much either because it is in the past. Besides, I wouldn't fault someone just because they had a little fun in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 04:14 AM
1

Fuck em. Just do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:21 AM
1

Game is overrated. Develop yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:01 AM
1

Idk man. I don't have a lot of friends as it is now and I spend a lot of time by myself. Really I don't see what the big deal is anyways. I'm much more concerned about my money than I am about developing relationships. Beyond that, I'm more concerned with developing skills and talents than simply having somewhere to go on the weekends. I think the need for companionship is a bit overrated. Just do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 10:42 PM
1

Not necessarily. True friendship is about having the same values in life. It's about loyalty and trust. This type of thing goes far beyond mere game.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 10:12 PM
3

I can attest to that. There is this one girl I work with. Goddamn, is she fine. A beautiful blonde with big tits. The type of girl that makes you nervous when you talk to her. For some reason, she doesn't seem to do it for me. There's no chemistry between us. Point being people place too much stock in looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:13 AM
1

This reasoning is stupid. You won't necessarily have a better sexual experience with what is deemed a high caliber woman. In my experience, any sexually attractive woman will do. The chemistry between us is of far more importance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:08 AM
1

You could always get a social hobby and make friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:06 AM
1

Or literally just invite them over to your place. Much easier in my opinion then going on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:05 AM
1

Yeah, assuming you have a stable job and can make the payments. Otherwise they'll throw your ass in jail. Men do not necessarily have the upper hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 11:18 PM
8

Who in their right mind says something like this? If the sex is that risky, it cannot be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 11:10 PM
1

Honestly, after facing as much condescension I have for being a short dude, I have a lot more sympathy for fat folks. I don't put them down even if they can change their situation. If eating to their hearts delight is more important to them than being skinny then so be it. Live and let live.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:50 PM
3

I tend to agree. You won't ever see me joining an advocacy group or marching in the street for short dudes. I have better things to do with my time. However, when I see someone saying that short dudes should just shut up and take the insults hurled their way, I'm going to call it out. You started this conversation. Not me. But I have better things to do now too so I'll end it here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:16 PM
2

Those comments are positive but take a look at how many likes and reshares the article received. It's not about whether the statistics are true or not. That is besides the point. It's about the article itself. It's blatant prejudice and hatred. This author took it upon himself to disrespect short men in every way he could think up. Imagine an article that stated that black men are more violent, insecure, less intelligent, poor and have smaller penises. How well do you think that would go over? S…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:51 AM
0

The article was shared on I Fucking Love Science. https://www.facebook.com/IFeakingLoveScience/posts/1354520327902308 Just take a look at the comments. Blatant disrespect towards short men is not only tolerated but applauded.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:52 AM
2

Oh I deal with it just fine. You don't have to tell me. But whining and demanding respect are two very different things. If most women don't find short guys sexually attractive then so be it. It's hardly different from the majority of guys that women find unattractive for a variety of different reasons. What I take issue with is that people find it acceptable to disrespect short men for no other reason than they can. There's no protests defending short men, advocacy groups or media attention. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:34 AM
1

In other words: an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:47 AM
5

As a short dude, go fuck yourself. Heightism is every bit as much of a prejudice as racism, sexism, etc.. The only difference is that short men are fair game. People had no problem calling me a midget growing up even though I stand 5'5". Call a black person a nigger, an Asian a chink, a woman a cunt and see how well it goes for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 04:41 AM
1

True. It is a risk/reward scenario. Got to find a chick who shares the same values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:41 PM
1

Yeah I can agree with you there. Even then, there are financial benefits to marriage too. Lower tax rates, only having to pay for one health plan, retirement, social security.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:25 PM
1

No you don't necessarily need a bigger place. You might if you have kids but even then it's not necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:18 PM
1

My point is that housing is the biggest expense in the average persons budget. A couple can share the same house and split the cost. This is a major advantage over being single and paying for it all on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:42 PM
1

You're a douchebag. And I'm done wasting my time with you. Go fuck yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 07:28 PM
1

BRO you're missing the fucking point. Hitting is bad, mmkay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:50 PM
1

INTJ?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:43 PM
1

Well then she can just buy herself a gun and blow your ass away, BRO.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:43 PM
2

No I'd really just prefer you STFU cause your annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:41 PM
2

That's not the point I was trying to make you ducking retard. Get a life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:16 PM
1

According to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:07 PM
1

Yeah until she gets a new boyfriend who can kick your ass. Poor reasoning, bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:03 PM
1

If both are financially independent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:01 PM
1

Yeah, but in the real world people don't think that way. Some people tend to attribute bad character to short men based on stereotypes. The same thing that black men and women go through. Or single mothers. Gay people. Basically, anyone who doesn't fit the mold of an ideal beautiful man or woman will be afflicted with their own brand of prejudice. That's why I abstain from calling groups of people "bad." I don't appreciate when it's done to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 06:00 PM
1

You don't need a big house with a partner either. The principle still stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:53 PM
3

Big man talking shit on the Internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:51 PM
1

No I tend to disagree. Getting married is one of the best financial moves a person could make. The biggest expense in the average persons life is their housing. Now, if you can find a partner to split that with you, doesn't that seem like a good deal?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:51 PM
1

Well, I doubt they plan on not fucking their husband after marriage. It seems as if it's something that creeps up on them. After so much time they get bored with him, lose attraction and simply don't want to fuck him anymore. So how should a couple handle such a situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:48 PM
1

Define egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:45 PM
1

We can still use our reason to see past our biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:44 PM
1

Fuck off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:42 PM
1

But height is a defining feature of attraction to most women. It's quite impossible for me to get attractive to the majority of women. I simply cannot compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 05:41 PM
1

Perhaps it's true for most people. Men and women tend to rely on each other for a variety of needs. However, I think true independence lies strictly in the financial domain. Now, you take a man and a woman who are both financially independent. They don't need the other to survive. They are both capable of finding another partner should the relationship end. Is this not a 50/50 relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:34 AM
1

I try to intimidate them. Stick my chest out. Look them deep in the eyes until they blink first. Show them who's boss. It works. Trust me. RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:27 AM
1

Yes women make a lot of mistakes. We aren't utilizing our power in the SMP/RMP. We are too dependent on men. We are too passive and worry too much about what people think. I also see the existance of TRP as evidence that women have failed men. We are doing something wrong if men no longer believe that we love them. Please elaborate.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:18 AM
1

Get real.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:14 AM
1

You know I used to share the same view towards fat people as you do. Then I realized that I experience much of the same prejudice as fat women because I am a short man. I recognize that there is a difference between the two, however so much is out of our control when it comes to looks. I feel that unless you are an actual beautiful person, you likely experience prejudice to one degree or another. So what's your deal, Atlas. Do you feel fat people should be shamed to make you feel better or are y…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:12 AM
2

Well, if you're a woman, I would consider this a bad thing. The competition is fierce. Personally, I wish I didn't pop a boner every other time an a woman walks past me. It can be quite distracting.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:54 AM
1

Like I'm a dude, and I can totally see that guy is beautiful. I'm not gay in the slightest. I think a lot of people are just really uptight about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:50 AM
2

Who cares? That was then. This is now. There is no oppression card for women to speak of.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:47 AM
2

It is unnatural for a society to consider that women should give up their primary biological role. There are over 7 billion people in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:47 AM
1

Depends on your definition of "worked." TRP helped me to take women off the pedestal. It explained to me that life can be enjoyable without a woman and many times it is actually far more difficult with one. It challenged many of the core social norms concerning relationships that I had grew up with in a good way. The rest of it. The misogyny. The theory. The paranoia. It's useless. Sometimes, worse than useless. Detrimental.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:32 AM
2

Fuck off. I'm 5'4" I'm not attractive to the vast majority of women. All TRP ever did for me was make me aware of this fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:25 AM
1

MOB. http://youtu.be/48VpzFdUJ8o
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:23 AM
1

Well everyone gets jobs and doesn't require a partner for wealth now. I tend to disagree. The biggest expense in the average persons life is buying a home. If you have a partner who can split the cost with you, it will make things much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:19 AM
4

In case you didn't realize, there's a bit of a crisis among college graduates who can't pay their loans. It's kind of a big deal. Not so sure about getting on board with this bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:17 AM
1

What do you mean withhold sex? Is sex something that men are entitled to simply because they marry a chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:13 AM
2

People don't really understand the concept of independence. Consider that the bare minimum of independence means accumulating over $500,000 of wealth. Assuming that you are very disciplined and frugal, this will take the average American (read: PPD) approximately 20-30 years. The fact is we need each other. Neither men or women can carry on life without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:12 AM
2

Personally, I know that values should matter more than looks in a LTR. Looks are superficial. The novelty wears off quick and in time will fade completely. Values are what make a relationship work. Unfortunately, my sexual attraction is based on looks, first and foremost. The good looking girls are who I want and who I will approach, even if they are complete airheads. Cosmo is just pandering to the base values of young women in America. They want the same thing. Hawt guys. People still want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 08:05 AM
0

Perhaps they do. But with how easy women like to throw that word around makes me a bit skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 06:45 PM
3

Whatever affects women should be national news. In case you didn't realize this is already a thing. It's called modern day Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 12:01 PM
1

But if that's what he's attracted too then he can't really help it.. Can he? Why don't you want him to be happy??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 11:57 AM
1

Fit2Fat2Fit. Dude is true inspiration.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 03:06 PM
1

Or option 3: have a family. Personally, I think that option trumps all the others for most people. Sure, it comes with a risk but so does anything worthwhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 03:05 AM
1

Because otherwise you are making no investment at all. Simply floundering about, getting older day by day. No matter how much success you have in the SMP as a young man, there will come a time when you are too old, and no one will want you. Then what?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/16 02:38 AM
1

Any man who grew up around families that stayed intact and went the distance, understand that there is not much better in life. I understand that there is much risk in marriage but it is worth it in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/16 11:05 PM
3

Don't you think both men and women want commitment from each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:18 PM
8

Men commit suicide at 4x the rate of women. They overwhelmingly engage in higher levels of substance abuse, criminal and otherwise dangerous behavior. They are falling behind women in terms of education and financial stability. Not to mention the growing number of men becoming disgruntled and joining the ranks of TRP and the MRA. These are basic to PPD. Maybe most men are doing just fine, but I think it's ignorant to ignore these growing trends. Do you not see it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 12:17 PM
1

At least Donald Trump seems to be saying what he believes as the truth in plain English. Something I consider masculine and what all the other candidates are incapable of doing themselves. His words are resonating with a lot of people despite how politically incorrect it may be. Maybe you should reconsider your views.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:54 AM
2

Speak for yourself. It is as wonderful or terrible as you make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:47 AM
1

Man Up is exactly what I'm saying. It is consistent with masculinity as well. You don't Man Up for the reward of pussy. You Man Up because that's what you're supposed to do. It's called being a leader. Too many men are reactive because they are desperate for pussy. The desperation and lack of direction in men is the central issue. Everything else is irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:34 AM
0

Maybe for Kim Kardashian it is. But you have to consider that this is what she does for a career. It's pathetic but at least she earns money for it. Girls who receive nothing for it are just whoring themselves out for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:23 AM
2

True, to an extent. I think TRP contains vital knowledge that every man needs to be acutely aware of. For instance, issues such as divorce, child support, domestic violence, etc... That kind of thing. Most men are aware of these issues to a certain extent. They know that it happens to other people. But they rarely consider it could happen to themselves. This is mostly a matter of circumstance. Most teenagers and young people associate with their peers. They simply are not exposed to issues such …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:19 AM
1

It's hard to tell. TRP coin phrase is that sexual strategy is Amoral. Essentially anything goes. If marriage fits your brand of TRP, then so be it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 11:11 AM
2

I concur. I think the counterbalance to this general insecurity of women is the overwhelming thirst of the average single man. Even if a girl is aware that she is a 5 or 6 at best, it hardly matters. She will still have a decent selection of men to choose from. Men have a very low standard in general. They will take what they can get. To make matters worse, most men are not even attractive. Sometimes it is due to genetic features, like shortness, baldness, an ugly face, but more often than not t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 08:10 AM
1

Well, there's literally thousands of girls who call themselves feminists. They are more than welcome to join the discussion. What's stopping them?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 02:06 AM
1

I just wonder about this kind of thing. For example, sometimes cute girls will take notice of me. I've even slept with a few. I'm still self-aware enough to realize that I'm topping out at a 6 on a good day. Honestly, when it comes to beauty standards, guys are the delusional ones. I think women are raised with the knowledge of how important physical beauty is. It's men that are left in the dark thinking that if they work hard and make something of themselves they'll find somebody.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:55 AM
1

Get rich. Throw big parties. The host always gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/16 01:44 AM
2

Benefits of a small population: Less environmental damage According to some scientists, this really might be the only thing that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/16 04:47 AM
2

Then how come people always make comments about my body?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:51 PM
1

Yes, it does. Only God can judge.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 05:44 PM
1

The idea of God is not tied exclusively to Christianity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 11:53 AM
1

Ok, so explain how a man is supposed to develop a trustworthy relationship with a woman, if he doesn't care about her wellbeing? Or are relationships with women things that shouldn't matter to men, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 01:09 AM
1

What a load of nihilistic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/16 12:37 AM
1

Just saying you don't always have to accept other people's advice. Sometimes it's better to trust yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:46 PM
1

It seems like your looking for a guaranteed relationship with no risks involved. The fact of the matter is that no such thing exists. That's why I said I agree with you when you said you value your education over a relationship. Good for you. Your independence should take priority over everything else. Furthermore, an independent woman is in a much better position to not end up fucked over in the long run if the relationship she chooses doesn't work out. You'll be able to bounce back, learn from…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:33 PM
1

Yeah, well I don't really give a shit what people have to say about that. I know the way to the good life and the girl who chooses to trust me will end up a very satisfied woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:16 PM
2

Just because you can't land an instant AB doesn't mean you can't help mold one. All you need to do is find a man with a good foundation and make the right choices from there. It's difficult, risky and certainly takes effort but it just might pay off in the long run. People with middle class incomes find ways to retire by 40 years old while others in the very same position end up broke and in debt. You can't do anything about the cards you were given. You just have to play the hand your dealt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 10:06 PM
1

Say you have a job where you consistently walk 2-3 miles a day.. Sometimes even as high as 5-6 miles in a day. Would that be a good substitute for cardio?
/r/TheRedPill29/02/16 10:03 PM
1

If you don't have a sound understanding of your values. In fact, you will probably never get it right if you don't understand your values. However, if you do understand what is more important in a partner beforehand, there will be far less trial and error.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:23 PM
1

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes it comes with huge penalties to your well being. Socrates was given a chance to avoid execution if he would admit to the crime of corrupting the youth. Instead, he told them that he should be honored and given free meals for life. He stood by his values but it cost him his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:21 PM
1

True. Most families who have amassed significant wealth will see it squandered by the third generation. So what does that tell you about the decisions these types of people make? It all comes down to the choices we make. Some of us think long term while the majority live in the here and now. They are ruled by their desires and vices rather than their principles. It's difficult to argue with them considering how mysterious life can be. You can die any day so you might as well have fun while you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:16 PM
1

I definitely have a traditionalist bent in my philosophy. But things have changed so much in the modern age that it's simply not feasible for the average person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:59 PM
1

Right and wrong is a meaningless concept in this world if you don't believe in God. I get that. Even though I can't logically prove that right and wrong exists, I feel it in the very core of my being. That's enough for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:25 PM
1

Give me a break. If you think the idea of dignity is something random and arbitrary and essentially meaningless then there is not much to discuss. We are on two different wavelengths. Let me assure you, even if you can't touch or see dignity, it holds infinitely more value than any actual result you can think of.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:49 PM
1

Doing what is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:06 PM
2

I want her to find her Alpha Bucks in her prime. That is ideal for her however unrealistic it might be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:05 PM
1

Idk. Maybe that would've been a better post. The responsibility is truly equal. It's up to both parties to make the decision to have sex or not. I just tend to think that women have more power when it comes to this topic because sex is less of a vice to them compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:26 AM
1

I thought you were RP, btw? I'm assuming now that I was wrong, due to commentary re: morals and being true to yourself. I hope you stick around, RPs (or semi RPs) with moral concerns are interesting and rare. Yeah, most people do. I sure sound like one at first I'll admit. I view TRP philosophy as mostly just a study on the power dynamics between men and women in a sexual relationship and also a study on the base instincts that people have. It is something I consider vastly important to understa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:19 AM
2

Find a person who you find attractive and who also shares the same values as you do. In this way, you can find someone who can meet your sexual needs while at the same time sharing the burden of everyday living expenses. Lead a simple life. Have kids or don't. Make sound financial decisions and retire early.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 08:02 AM
2

They can't replace an SO. You'd be better off to just acknowledge the fact that men and women were meant for each other and need each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 07:59 AM
1

I would agree. There is nothing more important than being an independent person. You got to be able to stand on your own two feet. But you should recognize that something like a marriage is a very close second for a variety of reasons both emotional and practical. It also fulfills needs that your education and career earnings never can.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:44 AM
2

Actually, they are mutually exclusive. You can't have both and the simple reason is because you only have so much time in this world. The time you spend seeking cheap thrills is only diminishing the time you could be spending developing a worthwhile relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:41 AM
1

See, now that's RP. Not really my style as I value having morals and being true to yourself, but I can understand the reasoning behind your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:40 AM
2

Then don't. We often refer to the so-called "SMP' on PPD but fail to recognize marriage for what it is. Marriage is an investment. If you do it right, it will pay dividends in the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:34 AM
2

That's because most people have no idea what they want to do with their lives. They can only think as far as next weekend. It's sad but that's what our culture has become. Look those people up in 10 years and see where they end up. I don't think any amount of research can ever replace understanding yourself and what you value in life. Seek out those who share the same values as you do. There is nothing else more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:11 AM
1

Never said it was. Nothing good in life is ever easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 06:02 AM
1

Yeah, I know. Thought it would be in poor taste to post there though. Besides, I like my ideas to be challenged.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:49 AM
3

Absolutely. I think TRP is shameful and Nihilistic. It's only redeeming quality is that it is the best philosophy concerning the power dynamics between men and women in a sexual relationship. That is where it starts and ends. They claim Amorality to distract men from it's massive flaws. People have morals. Doing what's right actually makes people feel good. It's part of becoming a more high-value man like TRP pretends to be. And you can't fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:47 AM
2

Honestly, I appreciate your response. I try not to be so judgmental but I just have a deep passion for attempting to understand myself and what it means to be a good person. I can understand why you might want to lead your life that way. I'm sure it's very enjoyable and the truth is that most of us are just trying to have a little fun before we die. But I can't help but recognize that a significant portion of people in relationships who attempt to do the same thing as you do, end up failing mise…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:26 AM
3

Well, I guess if you are a woman you have to weigh your options. Fuck a bunch of dudes when you're young and then settle for some average joe when you're about to hit the wall... or... Find the right guy when you're young who you find attractive, shares your same values, and develop a meaningful relationship? Even if the SMP is skewed in women's favors, they can't cheat themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:20 AM
1

For real. I could say the sky is blue and some of these people would need a peer-reviewed study to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:15 AM
2

It's called common sense. It doesn't take a fucking scientist to figure it out. Think back to when you were a kid. I bet you had big dreams of finding your dream husband and falling in love. You probably pictured a fancy wedding and thought about how your life would turn out. How you would have a family one day. You probably even thought it might turn out to be one of the boys at school. At least, I know I sure did. It was the same thing with every other kid I ever knew in school. Finding a part…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:14 AM
2

No, it's societal imperative. Women are not getting away with anything besides a cheap thrill. I can't really understand how people can argue for meaningless sexual flings when it is so clear how much more valuable a loving, committed and loyal relationship can be. I mean I can, given the lack of character in the average American.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:07 AM
2

You just sound like a fool by thinking that supposed "results" are acceptable substitutes for your own dignity. Do you really think there is anything more important to a persons well being than being able to respect who you are as a person?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 05:01 AM
1

Its not a puzzle. That's just a PC way of avoiding the hard truth. It's the lack of intimate relationships in people's lives that is the problem. Marriage being at the forefront of it all.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 04:46 AM
2

Marriage and family is a goal for most men and women. A youth of promiscuity is incompatible with that. Given the amount of geographic mobility these days, the difficulty that many women find in establishing stable relationships has nothing to do with reputation. It is that promiscuity breaks something inside you. You become the problem, not what people say about you. This is the scary part that I was getting at. I don't think many people are willing to even consider this idea let alone accept i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:58 AM
3

I mean some of us value our dignity over superficial bullshit. YMMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:55 AM
3

http://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/is_there_a_happiness_gender_gap The very first issue mentioned is "marital conflicts." It should be pretty freaking obvious considering marriage has been the bedrock of society since the dawn of time. Like, what do you think is causing lower levels of happiness for women? Misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:53 AM
2

Yea you made this up. Not a thing. If you say so. Except marriage & birth rates have been dropping steadily in western countries for years now. So have men and women's reported levels of happiness in their lives. You think this is a good thing because why? I think I'll stay opposite red pill. Much more fun. Higher quality men too. You go girl!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 03:04 AM
1

What the fuck ever. Yeah, I do have a fear of having sexual relations with some women. It's a healthy fear because sex can lead to very devastating consequences down the road for some people. I believe in not only physically safe sex but emotionally safe sex. I think you should get to know and trust your partner before you fuck them. The hook up scene found in bars and clubs is hardly conducive environment to establish these principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:59 AM
1

How can you not account for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:52 AM
1

But what about the men causing the violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:46 AM
1

So it's actually not "men" who have it worse off. It's just those 8% of men who were victimized. The other 92% didn't have that experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 02:20 AM
0

I don't claim to be the smartest dude on PPD but fucking Christ. Yes, man suffer higher rates of violence but whose fault is it in the first place?????
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:56 AM
3

Goddamnit lady you don't get it and you probably don't want to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:27 AM
1

No it doesn't. See my reply. There are many types of violence other than DV. We are going in circles here. You keep saying that men have it worse since they are the victims of violence, but disregard the fact that men commit the majority of said violence. You don't seem to get that you can't have it both ways. In other words, if men didn't commit the majority of violent crimes on one another, then men wouldn't have it so bad. They are their own worst enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:21 AM
1

Ok that is only one type of violence. If we are talking about men and women as a whole, we should also talk about violence as a whole. Who commits more robberies, assaults, murders? Who starts more war?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 01:17 AM
3

Compared to women? Who do virtually none of the attacking yet still suffer violence at the hands of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 12:43 AM
0

If men cannot accept blame for the cause of violence then they can make no claim on the basis of being a victim of said violence. The entire topic becomes a moot point.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/16 12:32 AM
0

When talking about men as a whole, they are the ones responsible for the violence. So they can't say that men as a whole have it worse than women as a whole regarding this issue, because they are the ones causing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 11:50 PM
1

You got it all wrong Atlas. You gotta think win-win. We bang their girls and they bang ours. Men collectively refuse marriage. Men live happily ever after.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 11:11 PM
1

Yeah, if you have no conscious. I agree TRP is a solid philosophy on the power/sexual dynamics between men and women. A man who is selfish and ruthless can use these tactics to his full advantage and have what he considers success. It fails the man that attempts to lead a moral (BP) life and do the right thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:23 PM
1

Yeah I know there's always areas you can improve but sometimes I just feel like I'm at my wits end.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 10:06 PM
1

Yeah man I got that. People always compliment my body. I got most other shit down too. Good looks, handsome, got a decent job that gives me status. I still struggle with the ladies and I can't tell if it's due to my height or if it's all in my head. Know what I mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 09:26 PM
1

See you just assume that I must be some kind of pussy when that's far from the truth. I wrestled for 16 years and was quite good at it. I've taken down men nearly twice my size before. I'm just not an idiot. There is no honor in a typical fist fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:46 PM
3

Who gives a shit what anyone thinks? Bullets have the final word.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:28 PM
1

I'm done with this bullshit. This is leading nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:26 PM
1

CisMan I really value your opinion. So I got to ask, what do you tell the guy that is below 5'6"? And what exactly do you mean by carefully selecting your women? Just find a girl who is shorter than you are or is there more to it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:25 PM
1

If you are entering simple fist fights willing to kill, that's fucked up and will often lead to serious legal repercussions - unless he was trying to kill you that is. Most fist fights do not end with death. If you escalate a fist fight, which often isn't lethal, to a knife fight, which often is, then you are in the wrong. Have you ever been in a fight? Yes, it is true that most fist fights do not end in death. Still some do. Yes, it is fucked up to enter fights with the intention to kill. At th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:14 PM
1

How many women are consciously aware of this line of thinking? While I agree with you, I'm not sure many women really understand themselves that well. Our culture glorifies "wild crazy orgy sex" to such an extreme that I think many people are convinced it's got to be amazing. I imagine many girls will learn the hard way that ONS, flings, FWB and all other meaningless relationships are not for them. Unfortunately, by that point she will just be a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 08:03 PM
1

I aim to please :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:56 PM
2

Yeah, but who's really not looking to get laid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:55 PM
3

This is a really good case for men. I would be very interested to see how women could counter something like this. Not sure how they would though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:51 PM
0

Except that in the case of violence, men have only themselves to blame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:50 PM
1

Have you ever been in a fight? Yep. Many times. It was fucking stupid as hell every time too. Reasonable people do not get into fights hoping/willing to kill or get killed - they try to hurt the other person, not kill them. Reasonable people do not get into fist fights. Period. The only reason to enter a fight is if you are in immediate physical danger and your life is at risk. It's best to subdue the other person if possible. But if not, you have to be willing to kill him/her. Punches do not es…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:49 PM
0

Punches escalate to death all the time. A reasonable person doesn't enter a fight unless they are willing to kill or be killed. It's not that I would rather throw punches, I would rather not get into a fight in the first place. Essentially, her line of thinking is irrational. Attraction itself is mostly irrational. We should be attracted to people who share the same values as we do but that's farthest thing from the truth there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 07:32 PM
0

The idea of physically overpowering male is stupid. One bullet is more powerful than any man can be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 06:38 PM
3

My thoughts pretty much. It's the "beautiful people" that have it best.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 06:29 PM
0

Truer words have never been spoken on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/16 06:28 PM
2

Well, ok then. I would say you just need to let small things go. Focus on encouraging your boyfriend to improve rather than criticizing him. Shit testing, or just being a bitch, is really just a personal problem. Generally happy, positive women are less inclined to shit test. It's really as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 07:31 AM
3

Except the physical strength plays a great deal towards being capable to do strenuous manual labor. It's why you don't see very man women at construction sites, or as movers, or roofers, or landscapers, etc. they can't hack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:51 AM
3

Red pill women would rip me to shreds. I can't handle it. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Maybe being ripped to shreds is just what you need most.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/16 06:48 AM
1

No. Fuck no. Look man, it's just a game. Underdogs win all the time. Good looking people will always win on paper but it don't mean shit. You still got to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/16 08:37 AM
4

I don't believe that men can hold back all feelings but happiness. They may not cry, or verbalize why they're upset, but those feelings manifest themselves in different ways, like being cold, standoffish or angry. I'd rather be with an adult who can just explain what they're feeling and if/how I can help. You say this, but it has been the countless experiences of men that sharing your feelings kills attraction and the relationship. Women simply don't want to deal with another pussy. Also, I'd ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 11:00 PM
1

Wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 10:56 PM
3

Well, it would be naive to think a woman in her late 20's is still a virgin wouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:38 AM
5

Well, if you want to marry a gangbanger, drug dealer, poor musician or starving artist, then you go right ahead. Have a nice life. Because that's what your typical Alpha man is going to be. Not some high earning CEO like the average woman dreams of.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 09:05 AM
2

Still disagree that accurately ballparking N is likely. I think there are quite a few "reformed sluts" out there. The ones who have had their fill of partying and are now ready to settle down or "don't do that anymore," and I think they can conceal their past well enough to accomplish their goals. Except for the fact that they are late 20's and looking to get married. Men aren't so naive to think that an attractive woman at that age hasn't had her fill of sexual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:57 AM
0

You can also tell by reading people and the vibes they give you. This. I think it's a lot easier to tell than people admit. Girls talk a lot. Especially about themselves and their feelings. They give themselves away pretty easily.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 08:48 AM
2

For real. The top comment saying masturbation is a good substitute for sex. Like, no it's not. This should be plainly obvious to any red blooded man.
/r/TheRedPill22/02/16 08:04 AM
2

True. But I question how much they're actually helping men. The bulk of what they do seems to be criticizing feminism and women which doesn't jive well with most people. Simply put, they want to destroy feminism. They would be much better off if they took action to help men better their lives in spite of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:08 PM
1

I'm thinking Britney Spears in her prime.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:06 PM
1

Pics?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:31 AM
2

That big head of yours probably gets in the way too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 10:28 AM
1

Nothing specifically from TBP. The closest philosophy I can think of that reflects our culture is Stoicism. Stoicism teaches that virtue is the sole good which is the complete opposite of TRP. I actually think it's very beneficial to understand both perspectives. TRP is nothing more than a philosophy of power. It's modern day Machiavelli. It's practical and gets at the base instincts that drive people. Stoicism, Christianity, and other philosophies go beyond power and teach meaning. The advice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:29 AM
2

I guess women justify this with their usual "wah im a victim, I get to do what I want" bullshit. I just find it annoying, on a bus or train full of senior grandmas and grandpas standing feebly, and probably experiencing serious jolts of pain with every bump in the road, to see some entitled cunt doing this. Where's the Jezebel articles and hashtag campaigns to end pursespreading? In an ideal world, Feminists would be calling out women for their bad behaviors and MRA's would do the same with men.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:21 AM
1

I'm a short (5'4), white, but we'll put together dude. I think I'm somewhat handsome to boot. Still, I struggle with women due to height. It seems to be a deal breaker for most of them. For the average person, looks will be the defining factor in how people treat you. Men and women that meet the ideal can get away with almost anything. It's sad, really. People should judge each other based on their character and acts of virtue, but that is just entirely ignored in today's society. It's all about…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 09:12 AM
-8

Security needs still trump sexual needs. Going on a killing spree would obviously put your life in great jeopardy. Also, I didn't get the memo that we don't use Maslow's pyramid anymore. It still seems quite relevant to me.
/r/TheRedPill21/02/16 08:47 AM
-1

No, trust me. I get it. The man who is effective is essentially the man with the power to get things done. It's what TRP philosophy is all about. What I am talking about goes beyond power and into what I would consider the true meaning of trust. Knowing that you can depend on your partner even when you are ineffective. I understand that unconditional love is something reserved only for parents and their children, but your wife should only be a few degrees below that. I agree that emotional needs…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/16 08:39 AM
-3

But want and need are worlds apart, and those who say otherwise do not grasp the fundamentals of life. No, men much smarter than you or I say otherwise. Maslow did not list sex in his pyramid for no good reason. Again, evidence says otherwise. Lack of sex and intimacy is enough to make men go mad. How else do you explain Elliot Rodgers or the fact that men commit suicide at a rate of 4x that of women?
/r/TheRedPill21/02/16 08:15 AM
8

Sex is important to a 'romantic' relationship. Sexual gratification is moderately important to the base human psyche. Do not conflate these two separate ideas and do not presume that we actually require sex, we didn't develop the most advanced brain on the planet for the purpose of wetting our dicks. Except that our roots are tied to the animal kingdom at large. Sex being the basic foundational purpose of life itself. Have sex and reproduce. It seems to be the only meaning we can gather about li…
/r/TheRedPill21/02/16 07:55 AM
3

I don't care about them sexually, I don't care about their sexual or romantic lives. Why should I? Because you should. It's the right thing to do. Why are you speaking so callously?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 07:34 AM
2

Yeah, actually it does. It's the most reasonable way to look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:36 AM
1

Describe top men and women. Is it people who have strong moral convictions? Is it the most intelligent people? For some reason, I get the feeling you equate best humans with the hottest ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:34 AM
2

Let's just be honest here, if a woman can make mad money, own a home, have a nice car (or two), manage her portfolio, travel wherever she wants, and get laid whenever she wants, why get married? There's just no practical reason to anymore. Uhhhh have you ever heard of the concept known as Family? Most people value them very highly. Often above all of those fun activities you just listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:24 AM
3

I only care if attractive men are opting out, the rest are just sour grapes. I'd like to convince the former group to reconsider, and I'll join all the relieved women in waving goodbye to the latter. You say this but you haven't really thought it through. Who do you think maintains this civilization and gets the dirty work done? Men. A lot of "unattractive" ones to boot. You sound like a selfish spoiled little brat when you express how little you care for men who you deem unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:22 AM
3

Lol. Give me a fucking break lady. Have a little pride.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:17 AM
2

For women only or are men included too?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:07 AM
2

No. At least Atheism can all agree that religion is created by man and there probably is no god. What issue can feminists agree on across the board?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 02:02 AM
2

Oh, for fuck's sake. You realize that feminists aren't a hive mind who all run on the same programming code? That's probably one of the biggest criticisms of feminism. The seeming incoherence of the whole philosophy. You can't have people saying all sorts of contradicting ideas under the banner of Feminism and expect to be taken seriously. But that's precisely what they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/16 01:42 AM
1

Lol. I see you Mr. Shit Sandwich.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:33 AM
1

And you know what? Part of the reason we are still together is that we both recognize that it is exceedingly unlikely that there is someone "better" out there for us. Doesn't make our marriage any happier, just means we aren't going to leave for someone else. That's tragically poetic. Getting old sucks. I don't know what else you can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 04:30 AM
1

Wise words.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:46 AM
1

Yes and no. I've got my life together. I lift. I approach. Sure, I could do more but you can always do a little more. Sometimes, it's better to sit back and evaluate the situation than to act on pure instinct. That's what I'm doing here. Just trying to gain perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/16 01:40 AM
3

And if I said I trust and believe in everything you say and never thought you would do me wrong.. Would you want to be with someone that naive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:56 AM
9

Fuck that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:44 AM
4

What would you say to the man that wants kids and a family?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 01:21 AM
0

It seems we've already established that you, personally, desire an LTR. That answers that. Not true. The idea of marriage with kids weighs heavily on my mind. That's the biggest reason I'm asking this question. Basically my choices are LTR or MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:53 AM
1

Noted. Unless, you're talking about adderall because I love that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:51 AM
2

What do you mean by buffering?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:51 AM
5

If you are so scared of marriage, find a woman who is happy with a serious relationship but doesn't want or need to get married. If she changes her tune and demands a ring, then tell her that she is no longer compatible with your needs and find another serious relationship with a different woman who doesn't need marriage. You make it sound so easy. Frankly, the fact that you think having semi-casual sex with 3-4 girls a week is ideal means you probably aren't ready for a real long-term commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:50 AM
3

Aren't you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:48 AM
2

The overall craziness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:15 AM
3

They love to talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/16 12:14 AM
0

Nobody is selling anything, and nobody is going to figure out for you how to do this stuff. Except /u/gaylubeoil he's trying to sell you t-shirts. And some other dickhead who was offering to be a mentor on asktrp for a fee.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:51 PM
0

I really don't think plate spinning is a good deal, either. Sure if you can pull it off it might be nice for a while. Until you knock one of these hoes up, or she accuses you of some shit? Then what? That's not even to mention the fact that most men can't pull it off. They're not tall enough, good-looking, have enough money, free time, etc.. to maintain that lifestyle. So what option do real men have? Not the bullshit caricature of an Alpha man TRP portrays.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:46 PM
1

Real talk, Ben.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:10 PM
1

To what end? Wouldn't a man just be wise to not deal with that type of woman? When it comes to relationships, I don't think women are so much malicious as they are ignorant. They don't intend to do harm to men purposefully. They just don't understand themselves or what it takes to make a relationship successful. They don't have a proper RP understanding or have a firm set of moral values. Most men and women are just lost without any direction where to go. They go with the flow and just want to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 10:08 PM
1

I'm just a man. A person like anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/16 02:58 AM
2

Because your admitting to lying just to get your way. That's the definition of a coward. Fuck that Amoral RP bullshit. Relationships don't work like that in the real world. You want results? Be upfront and honest about your past. Hopefully, you find a man who will accept you for who you are. Plenty of men don't care about a woman's sexual past. Otherwise, have fun looking over your shoulder your whole life hoping you don't run into someone who knows the real you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:56 PM
2

I only resent men for being slut shamers and forcing women into hiding their sexual history. No one forces you to do any such thing. If you won't admit the truth of your sexual history then you are just a coward. Tell the truth will filter the men who do care and the men who don't. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:48 PM
2

If men already assume you're lying, then there's literally nothing to lose. Except, your integrity. But who really gives a shit about that? It's much easier to just lie to your partner, who you say that you love and trust with all your heart, just so you can get your own way. Nope, nothing bad could happen here.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:41 PM
3

I mean lie about it. I would say that building trust is the most important factor in a relationship outside of sexual attraction. This is terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 10:29 PM
2

100% correct. The idea TRP has of a quintessential Alpha is a pipe dream. It's about as likely as becoming a Celebrity, or CEO of a major corporation. It happens to a select few but most will end up like you just said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/16 01:17 AM
1

Do you think that maybe some of the problem is that there are so many girls to choose from? I know I find it to be a major issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/16 01:15 AM
1

Would you rather it be different?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 06:26 PM
1

Don't you see that as a bit odd?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:30 AM
0

No, I get it. Gynocentrism. Feminism. Single mothers and welfare. I understand all TRP theory behind these phenomenons. What I don't get is why anyone would think this is a winning strategy. A welfare check will never replace a father and a husband. A family will always be broken if the parents are divorced. Despite their differences, men and women need and were meant for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:19 AM
1

Yeah, I'm perfectly aware that I'm about a 5-6 type. It's just that 5-6 girls are not attractive in the slightest. I don't like fat girls and that's what the average girl is. There is a simple answer to this problem. Everyone needs to focus on their fitness. If they did, it would raise the value of the SMP in general and everyone would be a lot better off.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 02:39 AM
3

Stable, boring average. As long as she meets a baseline attractiveness. Problem is that 5's are often not that attractive these days. They should be, but the amount of women who let themselves go brings down the average majorly. I could give a fuck about a party girl. Give me a good looking girl that lifts, reads, works and invests and I'm set.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 01:01 AM
0

You can't have all 3. Financial stability is difficult to get. You can't just have a high school diploma and be financially able to support a family. Even a degree isn't enough these days. I work 10 hour days and do full time school. I spend 90% of my time either sleeping, studying or working, the rest of the time I spend with friends and family, you know, the things that keep me sane enough to be able to do the other things. I don't have the time to go to the gym to make myself attractive for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 12:54 AM
11

Yet, most people are living paycheck to paycheck and have no savings to speak of. I think we are all walking on thin ice.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:10 PM
6

But there's over 7 billion people on the planet. If anything, we could use less breeders for at least some period of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 05:00 PM
1

What is your alternative? Eternal bachelorhood?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 04:57 PM
1

The only perplexing aspect here is that there are actually more women than men in the world. So the math just doesn't add up. How do you account for this? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_the_United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 03:34 AM
1

Agreed. But these are not like the symptoms of getting the flu. People can't help but become congested and develop a fever. People can certainly choose not to drink or otherwise act recklessly. The symptoms are a major contributing factor to their condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/16 12:20 AM
1

Seriously? Fuck you. All of the problems in this world are increasing. Income inequality, homelessness, drug abuse, obesity, crime. All of it is on the rise. you're a fucking blind naive retard to not see it. This kind of bullshit is part of the problem. If you can't recognize the issue and discuss it, you will never solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 11:29 PM
3

I've commented on this myself, finding someone making similar wages is ideal, but if you're in bb tier income these women are very rare and hypergamy will likely direct them to an even higher income bracket. Yeah, hypergamy is a motherfucker. But women have to deal with men who cheat too. That's the challenge of developing a relationship. It goes with the territory. I agree with you on the risks of going plating but imo you're liable to the same types of risks in an ltr (false rape accusations r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 11:23 PM
3

Agreed. It's a valid criticism and essential teaching of TRP. A man that banks on Beta-Bux as his only method is asking for trouble. However, this is mitigated by the fact that women are matching men's wages. If you find a woman on par with you financially, you are in a good position to succeed. You can combine incomes, share expenses and fulfill each other's sexual needs. This strategy is what I consider reasonable, but is nearly entirely disregarded by TRP. Instead, they encourage men to just …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:29 PM
3

Yeah, but the point I'm trying to make is that most of us are living in a desert and desperately need water. We just don't realize it because we are delusional. The desert in this case is the economy and water is money. A little foresight can go a long way. Someone looking to live a secure and fulfilling life should put financial security at or near the top of their priorities. I understand that you have to find your partner sexually attractive but plenty of people can do that. There are attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 10:01 PM
2

Aight yo
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:37 PM
2

I tend to agree. People want to see it as black and white, but don't want to admit it affects them equally. So men will say women have universal standards and women will say the opposite. Truly, we both have universal standards and we are both susceptible to the X factor. We are not all that different.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:17 PM
3

With respect to your last sentence: Kevin Spacey said it best: Everything is about sex, except for sex; sex is about power. That was Oscar Wilde. Please do not let this be you. What other option do men have? MGTOW? Because this idea TRP has of becoming an Alpha is about as likely as becoming a celebrity. You can spend your whole life trying to build and maintain a harem of women, but it just ain't going to happen. I have one friend who fits this description. He is not exceptionally attractive. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:07 PM
1

Perhaps, I did. I suppose it's been lingering on my mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 09:00 PM
1

Just saying it is a pipe dream for a lot of men. For example, myself. I'm 30 years old, have about 40k in student debt and am quite short. Right around 5'4". I have a decent job now so I'm working on establishing my wealth. Still it could take 10-20 years until I'm financially independent. By then I'll be 50 which is considered old. I'm too short for most women to consider attractive or even alpha despite all my other physical features. Which are spot on. I also only have about 5-10 years to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 08:59 PM
3

An alpha doesnt care about a womans career, job, or income because he needs nothing from her. Emphasis on thec word need namsayin. yeah, this part is delusional. Most Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. Many are underemployed. Women in their 20's are out earning men in the same bracket. This so called Alpha man you speak of is a unicorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/16 04:54 PM
-3

Was hoping you'd text me back.
/r/askTRP13/02/16 04:41 AM
8

TRP and lifting basically. Lifting definitely raised my testosterone levels which has had an impact on my general attitude. TRP, for all its craziness, has some of the most important pearls of wisdom I've ever come across. Completely changed my perspective on life. It just takes time.
/r/askTRP13/02/16 04:21 AM
1

More or less, the position from TRP is that boys rule and girls drool. Hahaha. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 09:52 PM
1

Why not? Do you not feel like you aren't attractive enough to get any woman's attention, or is it more about the SMV of the women that find you attractive? Those are two different issues. No, actually, they are not. Most guys all find the same women attractive just as most women find all the same guys attractive. The only is so is where you stand in the hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 03:53 AM
1

Sometimes, when I talk to girls I get a boner. I kind of worry that they KNOW. Especially when I'm wearing mesh shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/16 03:45 AM
1

It does, actually it changed my beauty standards for both men and women. It made me appreciate the work that went into sculpting a body and the discipline needed to maintain it. Before I didn't like ewww bulky guys and concentrated on mostly genetic traits (face, height, skin color). Now I don't really care about those. And whenever I see a guy go "ugh, girls shouldn't have muscle" (like here: http://imgur.com/z1CJBzQ), it's ALWAYS a fatty/dyel. Did the same happen to you? Yeah, it definitely ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 10:19 PM
1

I'm 19 lol. If you don't mind, could you specify what choices you made that you now regret? I mean I wish I had banged more girls and been more red-pilled in general. I wish I had lifted sooner too as that has literally changed my perspective on life more than anything. This might not apply to you if you're a girl. Regardless, those are minor issues that I have managed to get over with time and maturity. The big sticking point right now is that I have accumulated so much debt with little to show…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 09:23 PM
1

It seems to me that women bitch and complain far more often than men. It's as if it's accepted, and even expected for women to just bitch about things. Where as if a man did the same thing, they would tell him to quit complaining and shut up already. On the surface, it seems that women are less in control. However, as you have pointed out, men are much more likely to completely lose it and get violent. This is evidenced in nearly all crime statistics all the way up to the wars waged between two …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:26 PM
1

Though I think a lot of it is how you carry yourself. Are you owning it or shamefully admitting to it? If you show no fear, people will respect you. Applies to so much in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 03:14 PM
1

Someone that you are physically attracted too and who also has their shit together. I thought I'd made that perfectly clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 06:00 AM
1

Yeah, that is TRP argument and it is valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:59 AM
1

Yeah, but I think people treat attraction as if it's so out of reach. I actually think most people's baseline is much lower than people realize which makes it not that big of a factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:26 AM
1

I mean I don't know why it seems so unbelievable to you that finding someone who is mature and financially responsible. My point is that plenty more people will check the "pretty" box than "pretty and compatible" and so that's why it's every bit as important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:25 AM
1

Chad is every bit as hot as Brad but makes 100k more. It's a simple choice, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 10:34 PM
1

It's not a compliment you idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:57 PM
1

You're a fucking douchebag is about all I have to say to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 09:09 PM
1

See, I disagree. Even as a man, I pretty much require my woman to be on the same earning level as I am and also to be frugal minded. Otherwise, it just won't work. Can't really understand why anyone would see it any differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 08:59 PM
0

I can respect that. But I'd bet he's not a bum, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:25 AM
0

Well, I'm not having any sex but life goes on. I even consider myself more secure and generally positive than most of the people i come across. Especially those in unhappy relationships. If sex was so vitally important, I could make it happen. I flirt with girls everyday at work and all I would have to do is ask one of them out. Except, I have principles and one of them is don't shit where you eat. It's a risk I'm not willing to take. My livelihood is more important than pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:22 AM
-1

I'm not having any sex and it doesn't bother me all that much. Sure, I get lonely sometimes but I manage. I seem as adjusted as anyone else. It's funny you talk about meeting mallows hierarchy to lead a more fulfilling life. At the top of that pyramid is self actiskization. Many men have reached that point without having any relationships with women. Isaac Newton, Nikola Tesla, Friedrich Nietzsche are just a few of the men that come to mind. If bet that everyone of them have gone further up that…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 07:16 AM
0

Agreed. But isn't this just stupid for all parties involved?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:24 AM
1

That's great but it doesn't answer the question. I mean assuming you're not already a millionaire, wouldn't it make more sense to find someone to split the expenses with over the long term?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:23 AM
0

Isn't it more important to seek validation within yourself than from others?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:09 AM
2

Until the child support checks come rolling in, or you test positive for an STD. Which can lead to cancer in women. Suddenly, I bet that sex isn't very fun anymore for those people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:08 AM
1

It can be controlled. I do it everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:07 AM
5

Most of your life is spent not having sex. What do you call it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:06 AM
6

Yeah, actually everything is about drinking water. In fact, I bet it's the number one priority in most people's lives, whether they realize it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:05 AM
0

Ok that's great. Good for you. In the long term, do you and your roommate plan on buying a house together? Will she be there for you if you lose your job and can't pay the bills? Do you plan to retire together?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 06:04 AM
3

They're stupid. I mean I literally come across girls everyday I find attractive and want to fuck. But I can turn it off if I want. Just because a girl is hot, doesn't mean I have to lust over her. It's called self control and yes your sexual urges can be overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:59 AM
1

You may not be forced into it but it doesn't make it a bad decision. Eventually your parents will stop babying you, and the loan money will stop, and the real world is going to hit you in the face. You will realize just how much better life is when you find someone else who can split the rent, groceries and your everyday expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:57 AM
0

I tend to agree with you. There are new girls that strike my fancy every day. I would fuck everyone if given the chance. To give you a bit of perspective, I've been on a dry spell for months. That's what kind of gives me the same perspective as you. Pretty girls are nice, but at the end of the day, sex is just sex. Anyone will do. I have been that guy who is obsessed wit sex before. I still possess a fairly high sex drive as compared to my peers, but just because I'm not getting any, I don't let…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:48 AM
2

The only thing I have to compare it to is an addiction, though I l know this isn't the case. I think this is actually one of the more profound ways to look at sex. It's an addiction but at least can be a healthy one. Much like some people are addicted to exercise or their work.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:45 AM
4

This is incredibly disrespectful and dismissive of people with high libidos. Oh man. Don't get all "victimy" on us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:42 AM
1

I don't know about that. Seems like families were a lot more tight knit than they are today. An average person would have many more social supports than he does now.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:37 AM
0

Yes, all other factors being equal. Why wouldn't you want a partner who makes a lot of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:36 AM
1

Yes, but given the choice between Brad who works at McDonalds making 12k per year, and Chad who works in Pharmaceutical Sales making 120k per year.. Who do you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:35 AM
1

Perhaps you are correct. But, there is something to be said for sharing expenses. For example, housing, food and other everyday items will eat up the bulk of your expenses throughout your life. A young guy and girl with their heads on straight can presumably get ahead much faster in life than they can on their own. Let's face it, most of us were born middle class and stay middle class. It's important to earn a decent salary and advance in your earnings over the years, but most of us are only goi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:34 AM
0

It's not weird at all. Honestly, you sound younger than me but pretty much exactly like myself. It took until I was 29 to get my shit together and I just turned 30 this year. I am no stranger to asking my parents for help. It's just that now I am where I am, I see how stupid I was being. Now, I've got a long way to go until I'm am truly secure, but I am at least on the right track. That's why it's so important to me to find someone who's on the same page. So I don't even mean to judge you or eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 05:20 AM
1

Well, I'm a guy and I'm straight. So to answer your question, I'd say that I'm certainly looking for an attractive girl to be my wife but she got to have her shit together too. It's just about as important to me as attraction since there are literally millions of girls that I'm attracted too, but literally a fraction of that much who also share the same core values and vision in life. I can honestly say that sexual attraction and general chemistry are every bit as important in a girl to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 04:03 AM
4

Well... my parents pay for everything for me still... Hmm... I don't have any money problems so why would I worry about going for a stable guy? (not that I find those other jobs particularly appealing). Naturally. Like I hadn't even thought about it until I read your post. I'm in Engineering myself and while I do worry about not making it, marrying a guy better off than me to solve the problem never crossed my mind. So I guess that's it. Young people don't tend to think things much. Apparently n…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:14 AM
1

I tend to agree with you here. I don't understand exactly what would compel the courts to make divorce a no fault issue. I have heard it's because there was so much he-said she-said drama that they just gave up trying to see who is right and who's wrong, but then what good are judges for?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 01:07 AM
2

Well, just a man that has his shit together. It doesn't necessarily imply that he will be the provider and she is a SAHM. They can both pursue rewarding careers. It just seems strange that engineers, computer programmers, construction workers aren't seen as attractive as say a bartender, personal trainer, musician, or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:16 AM
2

But it's not moot considering the economic position so many Americans find themselves in. They only think they are secure. They are delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/16 12:12 AM
1

Yes. We would all be better off if we ignored this shit and tended to our own personal business.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:15 PM
1

People are insane. Our culture is fucked. What else can you say?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:11 PM
11

Secondary to Male Disposability. Who gives a shit about men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 11:09 PM
6

Look, I don't deny that women have the advantage, here. This is the quintessential point. All things being equal, women have a natural advantage. That's the reason behind this post and the OP in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 08:22 PM
12

Sure. Except, decent chick Jane doesn't have to aspire to be anything really at all. She can just be herself. This is where TRP gets ideas such as the need to be superior to women and male disposability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 07:45 PM
1

I mean she's only fooling herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:55 PM
1

I still use it from time to time. Seems to get the point across well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:52 PM
1

I still use it. It usually gets the point across pretty well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 06:35 PM
0

I don't think people will continue to be as critical of men. People in general are getting fed up with it. That's what all the people lamenting "political correctness" is all about. It's a subtle way of society acknowledging that they need to let men be men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/16 05:53 PM
1

Taken from a feminist perspective, you could say it exacerbates the ideas of Feminism. Fraternities are the ones with the power abs that's why they get to throw the parties and enforce their rules. See how easy that was.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:31 PM
1

Most women are far too insecure to think like that. There may be some truth to it, but it's largely a result of RP paranoid delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:26 PM
1

Yes, it seemed quite over the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:23 PM
4

Or, it's meant in the plain way it was written. As a pat on the back. An "atta boy."
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:15 AM
1

I get what you are saying. Maybe somewhere deep down in the darkest part of a woman's soul, this is what she means. However, I highly doubt any woman who is not a complete psychopath has the capacity to consciously think like that and act upon it. Most are as caught up in our messed up culture as anyone. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and believe they do what they think is best for themselves with no intentions to hurt anyone else. Until proven wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 07:14 AM
0

Yes, actions have consequences. Some consequences can act as enough of a deterrent for people to not engage in risky behavior. However, when negative consequences are no longer a factor, the only thing that gives people a bit of self restraint, instead of indulging their every selfish desire, is a thing called morals. Amorality means no morals. No morals means anything goes. It's not a difficult concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 05:23 AM
2

Yeah, actually it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:49 AM
3

I don't understand why TRP has to take such an antagonistic view. It is not men vs. women. We are all stuck in this together and need each other very much.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:47 AM
1

Well, religion implies something that is man made in my book. Like Christianity or Islam. I certainly don't subscribe to those ideas. Doesn't mean I can't still believe in god though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 04:45 AM
1

I'm not religious in the least bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:53 AM
2

Never said that only RP can be douchebags. It's just not too often you see a group of people who claim that "sexual strategy is Amoral, so anything goes." Even the Nihilists sub talk about creating their own meaning in life. Nope, that kind of juvenile thought is exclusive to the one and only TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:41 AM
1

Hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:38 AM
1

Yes, they most certainly do. I guarantee there are things in your life that you feel bad about. I guarantee there are times when you know you have done wrong and look back in shame. We all sin. It is undeniable and unavoidable. The best you can do is to seek repentance and do your best in the future. Willfully ignoring the idea of right and wrong will only lead you to misery.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:31 AM
2

It wasn't the only one. In fact, the amount of posts that either blamed the so-called Beta or defended this guy far outweighed the critics. It's ironic because these are the same guys that will wail about "evil women" cucking their husbands. It's the same men who will shame women for being sluts, yet post a FR about how they added another notch to their belt the past weekend. It's the same men who say they are the ones looking out for other men in a gynocentric world. I've learned a lot from TRP…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:28 AM
1

I bought drugs when i was 13. Fuck I even bought drugs off a 13 year old kid once he rode his bike to make the drop. Yeah, I did too. Life goes round. True. Again the world itself doesn't have morales corporations relegions governments are filled with immorality. Well, it depends on your beliefs. Some people see morals as a human construct. Some see it as an act of of evolution. Some just call it the will of God. No matter what you call it, it's there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:19 AM
1

If your wife wants to cheat she will cheat. Doesn't make it any less wrong. Also what do you mean by kids? Cuz if it's 13+ then yeah who cares kids will get it anyway. People with morals.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:13 AM
1

he seems very fit to raise your future son. Third rated comment. 60 up votes. How exactly do you define "praise", Atlas?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:11 AM
1

Keep spinning your little hamster wheel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:07 AM
2

Well, neither is a desirable situation but I guess I world take option B. Yes, I agree, other people are not responsible for my hypothetical wife's actions. Still that does not absolve the man who enables her of any guilt. If that is even to suppose that guilt or morals or any of that are real things. I believe they are. I don't have any evidence to back it up, but I believe it to be true and that's good enough for me. Most other people are the same way. Nearly any person would agree that enabli…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 03:02 AM
4

Sleeping with other people's spouses is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:41 AM
4

I think the problem is you're confusing being RP with being a douche. There is no confusion. TRP members are absolute douches in every sense of the word. A theory that predicates itself as A-Moral cannot be anything but. It's the same thinking with RP guys and sluts. They shame women for sleeping around, yet praise themselves for each notch on their belt count. "Banging some slut" is the highest goal in a RP man's world.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:31 AM
3

What a load of nihilistic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:27 AM
2

That's because you are a good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:25 AM
2

Sad story. I don't know why people are so cruel to each other. There is no reason for it. Anyways, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 02:07 AM
2

I think men are angrier than women. Men also act out in more destructive ways than women--i.e., suicide, drunk driving, etc. (As some of you know, I am here because of a man's suicide. That's got me even clued into the pill-o-verse.) Did not know. What happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 01:07 AM
1

Psycho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/16 12:11 AM
3

Super-like.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:27 PM
3

Social mobility may be a pipe dream but early retirement isn't. There are intelligent, disciplined, and ambitious young men and women (but mostly men) who are retiring in their thirties these days. That is unheard of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:21 PM
1

The American Left can usually be found sitting in the corner eating paste. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:18 PM
1

For one, equal pay for women is a sham. I don't like being blatantly lied to on top of being accused of oppressing women. Two, I'm not so sure a $12-15 min wage is a good idea. Sounds nice on paper, but economics are complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:17 PM
4

That's cold. It's depressing to see people speak so harshly on others. Imagine if someone said you weren't worthy of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 09:12 PM
0

Delusions of grandeur.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:59 PM
1

Conservative politics more closely align with Traditional relationships. The thing that most RP's don't understand is that the right wing still does not favor men. Both left and right wing politics serve Gynocentrism. Liberals sexually liberate women to do whatever they please, while the right wing takes them back after they've had their fill. Neither side truly gives a shit about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:56 PM
4

I think PPD is a more neutral ground and will provide a better answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:32 PM
1

Fuck your psychopathic bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 08:00 AM
1

It's one of many. The least of my problems I will admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:29 AM
1

Of course there are. I'm just a huge pessimist at times. I'm also not that great with women. Idk man. Life sucks sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:11 AM
1

Pleasure is all mine. Thanks for listening. Same to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 06:10 AM
1

For sure. Thanks for asking. Best case scenario is that I find a young, pretty girl who has her shit together and is ready to start a family. That way we combine income while sharing expenses. I'm ambiguous when it comes to casual sex. I've done it a fair number of times and always felt bad after the fact. I tend to ghost on girls or they ghost on me. I don't really think casual sex is a good thing for people in general. It involves too much intimacy to pretend that it's something casual. Furthe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:43 AM
1

Agreed. Not being pretty doesn't exactly bring people together either. As another member here has adequately pointed out to me before, attraction is a pre-requisite to a relationship. It's a foot in the door. Without it, there simply is no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:38 AM
0

You resign them by taking the stance that their choices cannot be questioned simply because you haven't lived their life. Because that's the truth and there is no denying it. It's absurd to think that you would somehow still be you and do the things that you think you should do, if you were someone else. You seem to be suggesting that it's wrong to say "that was a mistake, and you can do better." Not at all. I just think it's irrelevant to concern yourself with how others conduct themselves. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:24 AM
2

Why the hell would a 33 yr old date want to date someone that's college aged? Because that's when they are the prettiest. I think this much is obvious. I also think it's important that a couple spends the best years of their lives together if they intend to have a worthwhile marriage. When I'm old and grey, I would like to look back on the good times as those days I spent with my wife, not with other randoms. Maybe it's not as practical in my case, but I would like for her to see me in that way.…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:14 AM
1

What % of your salary gets taken by the government? Roughly 20-25% I believe. I haven't looked that closely into it tbh. How much debt did you have when you graduated? It's kind of a long story but currently have 30k with another 10k at the end of this year. Paying 40k in 3 years is really decent btw. Thanks, but like I said, that is if I'm especially frugal. In other words best case scenario. Good chance it will take 4-5 years. Do you pay medical insurance? Yes. 250 a month I believe. Do you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:13 AM
2

No, that is beyond the pale. Just because a person is used does not make them an object.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 05:04 AM
3

Strike 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:38 AM
4

Beta Bux in the making. The scary part is all that hard work can be undone overnight in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:36 AM
1

What would I do? Anything I could. That's great. That's really what all people do in any situation. We cannot tell the future and we don't know what the best choice is going to be. You seem to think that I'm stripping them of their potential when it is anything but. I recognize that people are simply doing the best they can, regardless of how ill advised it may seem.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:34 AM
1

I make around 45k. I'm 30 years old and have about 40k in school loans. I rent a room in my buddy's house for $500 a month (6k a year.) If I'm especially frugal, I could have my debt paid off in about 3 years. By that time I'll be 33 and starting a relationship with girls 10-15 years younger than me is quite difficult. People will talk and regardless of how I feel, I don't know how it would affect my partner. Which means I'm stuck with an older cohort of women 25 and older. Girls that have been …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:30 AM
3

I can agree and disagree. Most people don't really like their jobs. Although, some do. With that being said, work, and in particular, money offers something that we all desire. That is freedom. So I can see where the desire to work stems from. However, the root cause of the problem, is culture. Our culture promotes so much consumption and superficiality that people aren't working for their freedom. They're working to improve their SMV. For example, a young man making 50k right out of college wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:21 AM
1

Interesting. Not sure why anyone would consider a single household as a family. Your link is more relevant than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 04:05 AM
1

I don't understand why you think it's helpful to just resign people to where they end up in life. I just recognize that people have a lot less control in life than they think they do. You talk about making the right choices and this and that. If you were born in Syria 20 years ago, tell me what the fuck do you think you would be doing right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 03:41 AM
2

Lucky you. Thank god you decided to become a lawyer! Just what this world needs!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:40 AM
2

I don't really disagree with much of what you are saying. People make choices and that plays a major part in how their lives turn out. I just don't see how you think you would be any different if you were in another man/woman's shoes. Hume postulated that there are two types of knowledge. A. Priori and A. Posteriori. That which we learn by observation and that which we learn by experience. This is how it is for people. If you haven't been exposed to the correct path in life, how can you expect t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:37 AM
2

What a terrible, terrible view to have. I suppose that you think you are somehow special? Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:17 AM
5

Exactly. People have to look out only for themselves because there is no other choice. This country is fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:08 AM
3

It's not a lot of money anywhere in the U.S. Most people who make that salary have college loans out the ass. If you don't, you're probably not making that much. When you consider how expensive it is to live in this country, you are not left with a lot left over.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:03 AM
2

I have a strong feeling that you were raised in a nice family that taught you the value of traditional relationships. Not everyone is as lucky as you are. One thing I have learned in my life is not to judge because I would be no different than anyone else if I were in his/her shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 02:00 AM
1

$51,000 can barely afford a 1 bedroom efficiency apartment in New York. Let alone support a family. Give me a fucking break.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:41 AM
3

See, you get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:39 AM
1

That's you and your wife. I'm talking about society in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:38 AM
2

Hindsight is 20/20. It is quite easy to sit back and say all these things. Know what you want. Have boundaries. Don't let yourself get used. Yadda. Yadda. Yadda. It's great advice. That much can't be denied. Unfortunately, it's not always that cut and dry. People get caught up in the heat of the moment. You take risks and hope for the best. If you haven't been there already how do you know any better?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:37 AM
2

No, but you're certainly doing better than most.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:32 AM
1

Hats off to your father.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:26 AM
3

Yeah, and median household income in WV is 38,000. #49 in the U.S. Real promising. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:25 AM
3

Not if you're trying to support a family of 3 or 4. Houses are expensive as fuck. You got school loans and other bills out the ass. You will work until you die on that kind of salary with a family. That's if you never lose your job. If you go too long without, you'll end up bankrupt and destitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:13 AM
1

Men aren't bad for using women - women are stupid for allowing themselves to be used, and investing more than they are comfortable with giving. Eh. That's a bit of a grey area. Knowingly using another person for your own pleasure is what I would define as bad. At the same time, knowingly letting yourself be used is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:08 AM
1

Time is the most valuable thing for everyone. In this aspect, we are all equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:04 AM
1

Ihave much more sympathy for women Not only does it use up their time, which is much more valuable than mens', but it's also way more understandable of a trap to fall into. Wait a second. What the hell makes you think that women's time is more valuable than a mans?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 01:03 AM
2

Well, you got me all wrong pal. I make near that salary on my own. I'm in great shape and I'm generally a positive person. Well, maybe not all wrong. I guess I'm just insecure and ashamed of not reaching my full potential. I tend to be a pessimist at times. 50k might be the median household income but it is simply not enough to raise a family on your own. You will work until you're dead. If you lose your job and don't find one quickly, you will go bankrupt. Two people making that salary, living …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:41 PM
0

True love. I can buy that. It doesn't fit TRP description but TRP is not the end-all be-all of relationship knowledge. However, it's silly to ignore the underlying motivations behind their relationship. It's easy to find someone whose company you enjoy, but do you find them attractive? Do they have their shit together? Do they share the same values as you? Are they trustworthy? I'm willing to bet that your Dad fit checked all these boxes and more with your mother. TRP does a good analysis of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:14 PM
1

By "Traditional relationship" I'm implying that the man is the breadwinner while the mom stays at home with the kids. That's the definition of traditional relationship. Not easy to pull off with a 60k salary.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 08:07 PM
3

Well, you're only describing one factor in regards to their value: wealth. So your mom has your dad beat on this one. Granted, it is traditionally expected of a man to be the breadwinner, but for some women is not an immediate deal breaker. So tell us, what do you think brought them together?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:37 AM
1

I could definitely be number #4. Except, I have several doubts in my mind that make me think I'll just end up a MGTOW for life. Some may echo what you would find in a typical TRP'r. First and foremost, I am not an "alpha." I'm not tall, or handsome. I don't have great wealth or an exciting lifestyle. Yeah, I lift and genuinely have a positive outlook on life, but I'm just so average. It makes me feel inadequate and not deserving of a great relationship. To maintain a traditional relationship, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 04:06 AM
1

I guess you kind of got me there. Hard to argue with your logic. Still, I don't think you can define becoming sexually attractive as an act of love. One is just something that is, and the other is something you do. Being sexually attractive is merely a pre-requisite. It's something that thousands of other men can fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 01:04 AM
1

Law 38: act as you like but behave like others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:52 AM
0

Go ahead. I will deny any label outright. I'm just a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:52 AM
1

Do you even?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/16 12:49 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

© TheRedArchive 2026. All rights reserved.
created by /u/dream-hunter