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Do you mind elaborating on how even though it’s good for a time, it comes with its own set of problems? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/23 06:54 PM
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I had just simply responded here because the guy I responded to had stated his opinion that was directly related to what I thought of. If I made my own post, there’s no guarantee he would’ve saw it. Or would’ve commented. But I see where you’re coming from regarding it being slightly off topic. If I did make a post, not sure what I would say—“If my boyfriend is bisexual, should I not let him have any friends?” Haha. And judging how that guy responded, and his hatred of LGBT people (he doesn’t ha…
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/22 06:12 PM
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I was curious because I was in a previous relationship with a bisexual man. And I also had feelings for a different man in the past, who also happened to be bisexual.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/22 06:02 PM
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? A straight woman with a bisexual man is still a heterosexual relationship? The sexuality of your partner doesn’t change that it’s still a heterosexual relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen05/12/22 05:51 PM
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Because there’s some biological backing doesn’t mean it applies to everyone. For instance, we are biologically wired to want kids, and most people do, but there are still millions of people who never had the urge to have kids and went to their graves happy with their decision. People have used the whole “biological” reasoning to deny women the right to work or vote. having sex with an animal is wrong Two consenting women or men having sex is not the same as having sex with an animal. And even if…
/r/RedPillWomen04/12/22 11:21 PM
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But what about gay men who have never felt attracted to women? And how can men not feel attracted to other men when bi and gay men can get aroused by other men? Why have sex with someone you’re not attracted to, while not having sex with the gender (women) you say they are attracted to?
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/22 04:17 PM
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Isn’t that for any person?
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/22 03:30 AM
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Honest question, would you say a bisexual man just cannot be trusted with any friends then?
/r/RedPillWomen02/12/22 02:09 AM
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Why do gay men tend to have much more female friends if woman are so horrible at friendships?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 05:47 PM
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I think what you wrote is foolish and ridiculous But I don’t get that because it does contradict your claims the primary reason for divorce cited is financial I did not see that. I see adultery and lack of commitment and fighting/arguing. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/#abstract-1title https://www.kevinhickeylaw.com/legal-blog/top-5-reasons-for-divorce women want better since it is incentivized… new man… new money Then why do so many women say they do not want to marry agai…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 02:30 AM
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I wrote that post to primarily respond to you, not for someone who may or may not be reading this comment section portion. obviously I tapped out of having a serious discussion with my reply And from the other part of your answer, yea it’s clear you don’t want to talk. And you don’t have to obviously. I guess I don’t understand it from your point of view. I do occasionally lurk on this sub to learn new stuff, and I do see valid points. But way more often than not, I see people make claims that m…
/r/MensRights06/09/22 01:15 AM
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Interesting how I bring up flaws in your original points, with backing, you just resort to saying I need help or LOL. I like to use research when backing claims I make, not my feelings.
/r/MensRights06/09/22 12:58 AM
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If your claim that women initiate divorces is due to more money and better men (HECK YEAH), why after a divorce, are men significantly more likely than women to say they have an interest in remarrying? Why would men want to remarry more than women if it’s so bad for them? It’s almost as if women are divorcing for legit reasons and have such shitty experiences. “Men are split almost evenly on the subject of remarriage: about a third of them want to give marriage another try, a third aren’t sure, …
/r/MensRights05/09/22 04:54 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree that losing half of your stuff sucks. But why does everyone here leave out it takes two to tango? She loses half of her stuff too. “Men don’t want to risk their wealth, property, and income.” Simple solution: Stop marrying broke women who will take all your shit in an event of a divorce. I don’t understand why everyone seems to gloss over this very easy solution. Find someone who earns about what you do. If not, don’t marry them!
/r/MensRights05/09/22 04:38 PM
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Man’s love is so unconditional that he’s more likely to leave her if she gets cancer than the other way around https://www.reuters.com/article/us-partners-health/men-more-likely-than-women-to-leave-partner-with-cancer-idUSTRE5AB0C520091112?utm_source=reddit.com
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:20 PM
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Women are loved unconditionally, yet if she has cancer her husband is significantly more likely to leave her than the other way around https://www.reuters.com/article/us-partners-health/men-more-likely-than-women-to-leave-partner-with-cancer-idUSTRE5AB0C520091112?utm_source=reddit.com
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 07:09 PM
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I’m curious, why do you (and your friend’s) comments specifically try to call out women for being shallow on not loving unconditionally? Would trump be with Melania if she weren’t pretty and 10 years older than him? She was a model and much younger than him. Would Tom Brady be with Gisele if she were balding and fat? Would Jay-Z be with Beyoncé if she was a broke, not attractive, single mom and not THE Beyoncé? It seems like you’re quick to get “redpilled” and say women basically have no ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/22 09:10 AM
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That can be said for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 07:07 PM
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It’s because men on purpilepilldebate and red pilled type guys aren’t the type to be good fathers anyway. The type of person who looks down on single moms/insults them (different from just preferring not to date them), aren’t usually the best people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/22 04:51 PM
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less people got married That doesn’t matter, because this still works by percentages. So the proportion of people who got divorced is still less. Yet, there’s a higher percentage of wives than ever before who out-earn their husbands. If more women than ever before outearn their husbands, why hasn’t the divorce rate gone up? men cheat but only 20% of them initiate divorce Bruh that’s not much better lmao it’s still cheating. I would rather want my partner to leave me than cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:55 PM
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Back at it with blaming women for issues men have. And again, if that was all true, why didn’t you see the breadwinning women cheat more than her partner? divorce rates dramatically increasing as women out earn their husbands Completely false. https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-us-divorce-rate-has-hit-a-50-year-low And you can’t point at divorces by women and say it must be because the woman earns more. I can also argue it’s because men are bad husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:15 PM
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That source talks about how a man having a higher income is more attractive, we already knew that. But the source doesn’t speak of what we were talking about; how men feel about their partners earning more. It also doesn’t talk about the woman’s status. lonely women CEOs who can’t get dates Those are individuals. When you actually take a step back and don’t look at singular instances, but trends as a whole, the more educated a woman is (which is correlated with income), the more likely she is to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 11:04 PM
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Tinder isn’t real life. Now you’re just changing the subject because I proved how men have an even bigger issue than the woman when she earns more. You can say what you want, but the data was clear. And it’s clear you get all your thoughts about women from what men say online about them. Men who typically don’t have much experience with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:38 PM
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No, that’s what I mean. You’ll pin it on women no matter what when it comes to finances. If she cheats more when earning more? Clear sign she doesn’t respect him. If he cheats more when she earns more? Clear sign she doesn’t respect him. No matter what, you’ll say the issue is with the woman, not the man who’s damn cheating on her. Now you’re just talking about a bunch of other stuff that isn’t relevant to this convo. All I’m going to say is that the vast majority of men (90%+) lose their virgin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:31 PM
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it just is Yet in every instance where the man or woman cheats more, you say it’s because the woman didn’t do something right. “It’s because she didn’t respect him… it’s because she emasculated him…” and so on. You still pin it on the woman even when the man cheats more when she earns more! women only respect men better than them Yet, it’s the men who cheat on them more when she earns more men feel that when Yeah… and that’s their problem. That’s an issue men have. You’re proving my point: That …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:20 PM
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I see now. It’s not about stats to you; no matter what they say, you’ll blame it on women for causing the issue. Never the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 10:15 PM
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Did you not read the link? Because it address everything you said. Again, you say some studies say the chance is equal (I haven’t seen it though, and you haven’t linked it). Yet, we only hear so much of men saying women are the ones who can’t handle earning more. If it’s equal, why do we never hear of the fact that men can’t handle it too? Why are the men only interested in pinning it on the woman? And I agree with your reasoning—So it just links back to men not handling the fact that his partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 09:50 PM
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https://today.uconn.edu/2015/06/study-economically-dependent-spouses-more-likely-to-cheat/ While Munsch found similarities in the way that men and women respond to being economically dependent, she discovered that men and women who are primary breadwinners in their marriages behave very differently. For women, the more they “breadwin” – that is, the larger their percentage of the combined marital income – the less likely they are to cheat. also has nothing to do with the topic I’m pointing it ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:52 PM
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It’s because if women don’t want them, they think there’s only something wrong with the woman, not themselves. They don’t want to admit it’s themselves, so they’ll tell each other whatever stuff about women to make themselves feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:45 PM
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And also why they hate career women. Because career women will be the least trapped if they want to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:30 AM
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Yup, also why I see so many men always talk about how the old days were better and how women weren’t “ruined” and “good.” They’re just saying the good days are when women didn’t have rights and literally needed men to have a decent life, and can’t stand the fact that women have more choice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:28 AM
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Sadly, I don’t think he’s trolling from seeing his history. Nonetheless, I understand where you’re coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:19 AM
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Word. There’s a reason why after a divorce, women statistically desire remarriage a lot less than men. For all of the men here always saying marriage is for women, it sure doesn’t make sense for why men desire remarriage so much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 03:00 AM
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You’re implying that the definition of a woman is a doormat, servant, with no autonomy. Can’t even say no to sex. Misogyny is thinking those traits are something women must have, and she must hate herself if she doesn’t do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:39 AM
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Seems like you’re the misogynist here lmao. “A woman is someone who cooks, cleans, is obedient, and never refuses sex. If she doesn’t do any of that, she hates herself for being a woman.” Yikes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 02:21 AM
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“Don’t be a misogynist” Not sure where you think that came from. I was saying your description of a “high value” and “marriageable woman” is one akin to a bang maid. Cooks, cleans, obedient, doesn’t talk back, never denies sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:58 AM
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Then why are the financially dependent men even more likely to cheat than the breadwinning woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 01:15 AM
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Are you saying you think men cheat more when they’re completely financially dependent compared to women in the same position? Because that’s true too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:40 AM
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The real question is what percentage of men would continue to respect their woman if she financially supported him. Research has shown that men are most likely to cheat when he is completely financially supported by his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:23 AM
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There’s a reason why a poll here awhile back revealed that a large chunk of men here are actually virgins. They don’t know what they’re talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:16 AM
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Sounds like the epitome of the term “bang-maid.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/22 12:15 AM
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Yes, I agree with everything you said. Sometimes, I have a habit of ranting to my boyfriend/some male friends as well, but I try my best to be aware of it and make sure they can speak to me as well if something comes up. The part about interrupting is interesting—I do notice this happens much more with men compared to women for me. Actually just yesterday, I was in a meeting and this guy just very blatantly cuts me off and starts commenting on something I said. When he was done, a little bit aft…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/22 04:38 PM
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Again. I said it isn’t necessarily due to abuse, but it is something to take into consideration and a different perspective. When only 15% of women give a solid yes towards the idea of remarriage, and over half say no, it should make you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 04:57 AM
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Well, we do know that women are significantly less likely to desire remarriage after a divorce. So it can be inferred that they are disillusioned by marriage in some sense due to their experience. According to Pew Research, “Men are split almost evenly on the subject of remarriage: about a third of them want to give marriage another try, a third aren’t sure, and a third say “never again! Meanwhile, 54% of women don’t want to remarry, and only 15% say they do.” Obviously, this isn’t saying the wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:43 AM
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Roughly three quarters of men 18-30 got laid in the past year. Roughly 90% of men are no longer virgins by the time they’re 22. You can try to claim it’s all looks that ever matters, but when you look at reality it’s not true. So you can use that for encouragement
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:36 AM
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STILL she’s been painted as a victim of domestic violence We must be seeing completely different realities on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/22 12:29 AM
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I mean, then nothing is gonna be gonna enough for you if you disregard anything that asks people what they think lol. Nothing from Gallup, Pew Research, anything since the bulk of studies relates to communicating with people. It’s your opinion over everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 06:33 PM
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Yeah, but you’re saying the study isn’t valid because it didn’t agree with your opinions. If the study completely backed you up, you wouldn’t be questioning it. That’s what I mean by you putting your feelings over facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:59 PM
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I guess if you want to continue to make the claim women love misogynistic men who murder then I can also make the claim men love attractive women who even murder their own toddler. You’re still just looking at a minority of people and applying it to people as a whole. Typically, those people have a lot of their own issues anyway. It’s unrealistic and tbh kinda an unhealthy/toxic view to apply those people to an entire gender, but it’s your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 05:54 PM
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Yeah, I think it’s completely reasonable for you to feel tired or disheartened or frustrated. After all, it’s natural for people to desire a mate. I’m significantly younger than you, so I can’t put in my two cents if I feel like dating has gotten easier or harder. But I do hear from older people like you that dating has gotten harder. Perhaps the pandemic has been partially the cause for people acting poorly for online dating? People have become more socially stunted. I’ve heard a lot of online …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/22 03:13 AM
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Cassie Anthony, charged with murdering her toddler in a very publicized case, got marriage proposals and money from men while she was in prison. She’s pretty attractive. Would it be fair for me to say men love unstable women? They just need to be hot, and they’ll forgive anything they do, including killing their own kid? I see so many men praising attractive women who raped or sexually assaulted boys or men. Would it be fair for me to say men must condone women who are rapists (only if they’re a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:40 PM
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I already explained why it’s incredibly moronic to prioritize anecdotes and why they’re prone to bias. The things I see in reality DO confirm what the data generally says anyway, so your argument is pointless. There’s a reason comprehensive studies are done over anecdotes. And you ignored my story in “reality” anyway about the high class family of doctors and their sons. So it’s not even about reality. It’s just ignoring whatever doesn’t fit your beliefs. You’re a feelings over facts kind of dud…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:34 PM
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Once again, a refusal to believe anything that contradicts your personal beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:26 PM
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A 4 doesn’t look good too lmao. But magically, it’s everything you believe already that must be true. Everything the study says that you disagree with must be false. That isn’t relevant. You said people lie to make themselves look better like giving to charity. Men saying they like women’s education doesn’t make sense in that regard. It’s a stretch to say that “crowd” makes up a significant portion of the survey people. And it’s not like their significant other is reading it. And you admit, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 03:13 PM
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people constantly answer more good than true in these things So you disagree women don’t place heavy importance on financial stability and importance on height, and men don’t place heavy importance on looks for short term partners? And again, you’re just saying it’s not true because you disagree with it. And again, men saying education is or isn’t important isn’t going to make them look tremendously better. It’s more of a neutral thing. And again, you’re just saying whatever to try to justify yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:54 PM
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I read your tone as saying you are a fantastic guy by saying you “even cook” and you should be amazing on paper. And in my other part, that’s what I meant by saying a lack of helping out around the house can break a relationship but not make it. Without it, a relationship can crumble. But with it, a relationship isn’t guaranteed to survive. I mean, the vast majority of men still have had sex/relationships. Obviously, looks matter a lot online, I acknowledge that. Sure, approaching in person has …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:48 PM
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If you went to a top uni, you would also know it doesn’t mean you should just throw anything out the window because it doesn’t confirm to what you believe. You doubt the legitimacy of the source. It’s good to be wary of sources. But you’re trying to doubt it for the sake of trying to doubt it. And only certain parts. So do you disagree that women don’t find height important? Do you disagree that financial stability is important to them? Do you disagree men find kindness, supportiveness as the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:33 PM
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You’re pointing out a bunch of parts of the “study” to just dismiss it… even though those aren’t valid reasons to dismiss it. They weren’t all rated top level importance; they gave the percentages. Yes, it included all other men. It doesn’t take away the study. Straight men are still included, and it’s still a minuscule percentage that rates education as not important. You’re making extremely big assumptions to dismiss an entire study conducted by a university. Of course, you wouldn’t say it’s w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 12:18 PM
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it’s easy to mark something as very important when the truly most important traits aren’t there If men didn’t care about education as much as you claim they don’t, they still won’t give it a 4/6 in importance. Lol. So if you took that survey, you would’ve done that? the more I read about this study… I would’ve thought you read at least that part earlier when I first sent it since it’s directly related to that part of the study, but you must’ve just dismissed it right away. Anyway How is everythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:54 AM
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it makes total sense. It’s like asking… Wait… what? What kind of stretch is this comparison to somehow try to claim the study isn’t valid? What a mental gymnastics. See the other variables listed with education. No other variable was very drastic like that. Again, you’re making up whatever because you just don’t believe what the data says. lifetime of observing men’s behavior You observed them. 1. You’re susceptible to confirmation bias. 2. You observed them. Not necessarily spoke to them nor kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 11:29 AM
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except there were no mention of looks in that graph It was still mentioned in other parts of the survey, like rating how important body is for a short term relationship. It’s a very big stretch to say, “Well, they were probably just afraid to say the truth.” Like if the truth is they don’t care about education, that’s not even offensive to say. Why hide that? If anything, it can make someone look less shallow. You’re straight up saying, “I don’t agree with the results of the study, so the men mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 10:39 AM
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I know of a “high class” dude where he’s a doctor and his wife is a doctor and both of their sons attend Ivy League schools (one went to Harvard and the other went to Dartmouth). The dude is friends with my dad, and I grew up around him. There’s no way in hell they would be super accepting of dating a woman who didn’t go to college. “They” as in all of them. So your anecdote gets mine. But tbh, your anecdote is more relevant only if you were someone who is “high class” or a “high earner” since t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:43 AM
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You think they were scared that the survey givers were gonna judge them if they said it wasn’t important so it’s just not valid? Yet, they feel comfortable saying how important a woman’s looks is to them? Lol at this point, you’re just making up stuff because you’re wrong and don’t want to believe the facts. You don’t care about education, but it certainly doesn’t mean other men don’t. And tbh, successful, attractive, and wealthy men aren’t known to hang out on purplepilldebate. So I don’t think…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:37 AM
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In the US, when heterosexual men rated the importance education is to them when looking for a long term partner on a scale of 0-6 with 0 being not important and 6 being very important, over 70% of men gave a score of AT LEAST a 4 for education. The category chosen at the highest rate was a 6. It looks like under 3% of men gave a score of a 0. Page 7 https://assets.ctfassets.net/juauvlea4rbf/1kmtOU2RRXrAB9Jz1JRmwe/20ee3375a5ba9f2d31fcbf9fb5a2e541/191105_Ideal_partner_survey.pdf So I have NO CLUE …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:14 AM
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In general, quality men do care about education. It’s much, much more common a wealthy guy seeks out an educated woman from a similarly high-class background than a woman who didn’t graduate high school.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 09:03 AM
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I wasn’t saying that women being “mommies” is what fully explains the disparity. Probably part of the reason though. But overall, that statistic can tell us that women generally aren’t getting as much from relationships/marriage as men do (since they desire remarriage so much less). Now, let’s see some other stuff you said. “I even cook” Like… you say that like it’s a huge accomplishment? Congrats for being able to be an adult? You saying this implies that the general state of men is so sad if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 08:47 AM
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After a divorce, men are significantly more likely to say they desire to remarry in the future than women. So it can be argued, lots of men want to be married but have no idea how to be a husband. After all, if so many women didn’t know how to be a good wife, why on earth would men desire remarriage so much more?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:12 AM
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I do read a lot that women often have to do the bulk of housework and such on top of having a job. And the man doesn’t help out with much, so it can be frustrating. I’m sure you’ve seen the common talking point that men want a “mommy” to take care of them. Although these statistics don’t tell a full story, it does convey a message. After a divorce, men are significantly more likely to express a desire to remarry: According to Pew Research, “Men are split almost evenly on the subject of remarriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/22 02:03 AM
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…What? Did you even read the sources? You clearly didn’t even go past the title slide. The numbers are derived from the Pew Research Center. So because a blog repeated it and linked it, that means the research isn’t valid? Makes no sense. Get with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/22 07:41 AM
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Can I see your source for this? Because I’ve just seen contradicting studies before
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 06:06 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/time.com/3584827/pew-marriage-divorce-remarriage/%3Famp%3Dtrue https://www.bikellaw.com/blog/9/remarriage-after-divorce-what-are-your-odds/#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%2054%25%20of%20women%20don,52%25%20of%20women%20have%20remarried. “Men are split almost evenly on the subject of remarriage: about a third of them want to give marriage another try, a third aren’t sure, and a third say “never again!” Meanwhile, 54% of women don’t want to remarry, and only 15% say they do.”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/22 07:31 AM
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This is just not statistically true. After a divorce, men are more likely than women to say they desire to remarry. So if they were really much more comfortable being alone than women, this wouldn’t be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/22 12:17 AM
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I’ll give you an example about older men and the language/words they use with younger women, who they see as easily manipulated. There was an older guy (31) who I was talking to (19 at the time, about to turn 20). He really wanted to be exclusive early on but I wasn’t sure yet. I remember one thing he said to me was, “Am I not nice to you?” Like trying to ask why I won’t commit to him in a sort of guilting/weird way, like why am I not accepting him. I guarantee he would not say, “Am I not nice t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:48 PM
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Of course! I understand any relationship can be toxic, but age gap relationships are grossly overrepresented. It’s that every predator or someone looking to manipulate would pretty much always prefer a much younger person. My current older man is awesome and amazing, but to get to him, I had to go through a lot of other crappy older men. From certain language they (other older men) would use, who prefer younger women, it’s clear they KNOW that the young woman is more naive. Have I met not so gre…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 07:38 PM
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True, yes! I have a tendency to care how I look to others (hey, I’m still young!) And I do feel self conscious about it. But even before dating him, I thought age gaps were so sus. Thing is, with him, I feel like I’m the “exception to the rule.” I still strongly think a lot of age gaps are toxic but not all of them. Definitely not all men who are in age gap relationships are predatory, but I find that a good chunk of abusive men always prefer them. More below. The younger girls point I see said …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 05:16 PM
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That’s good to hear some of you guys are still friends and on good terms and the interactions were friendly and casual. It sounds like you respected them, which is crucial. I feel like it’s a trend with older men where it’s hard for them to respect the much younger woman they’re with. That’s very interesting none of your male friends said they were too young. The man I’m dating right now said his best friend would give him a lot of shit if he knew of my age. And he typically doesn’t go for someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:51 PM
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I guess I meant not jaded from experience lol, but you’re perhaps jaded with the courting process/options now. And I understand your concern if you’re not baby crazy or baby interested. Why not go for women in their late 20s? Or women focused on their careers? They usually have kids later, and women in their late 20s have grown out of the party phase usually but may not be in a huge hurry for kids. And career women, in my experience, leave their partying days earlier on too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:30 PM
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Yeah, no problem! I am just kinda confused though because your previous comments seemed to be very jaded, like extensive worry about beta-buxx and dead bedrooms (which I assumed didn’t happen too much in your relationships so far since you spoke decently of them). So I was originally wondering if you had a string of bad relationships. But then again, you also said you only commit once you’re serious, so perhaps it’s your filter helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 03:21 PM
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Haha! But it sounds like a good thing that you (generally) had a decent experience with women so far. So I wouldn’t be too surprised if you ended up finding the “unicorn.”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:53 PM
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I see. Did you come close to marrying any?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:45 PM
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Did you ever see potential with any of them? Surprised you didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:36 PM
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Generally understand what you’re saying but don’t understand the “older women shaming men their age for dating younger ones” (for early-mid 20s women and older men). I see this point a lot, and I’m not denying it happens, but that’s from women and even men in general. Young women give a lot of crap and call the man “creepy” for dating a much younger woman. I’m dating an older guy, and every single one of my friends—female OR even male—react with a “yikes” expression at the very least. I couldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:33 PM
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How many relationships have you been in?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/22 02:12 PM
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While there’s no real way to target weight loss to just one part of your body, including the face, the best way to lose weight in your face is to lose weight overall. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.goodto.com/wellbeing/lose-weight-in-face-524275/amp Also, if someone already has a naturally thin face, if they still lost weight their body would look better than if they were overweight. Again, barely That’s what you want to believe because you’re hell bent on living on an “men can’t do anything t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:04 PM
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Overall weight loss results in natural weight loss in the face. I can’t believe you’re doing a mental gymnastics to now try to tell me fit guys don’t have an advantage over overweight ones. It is not possible to loss overall weight but lose none in your face anyway. They can out in more. That’s the whole point. To improve. It still makes them more attractive omg. Maybe with some dudes they were able to get women more easily. Maybe some they don’t. But they look better. Just like with fashion. Ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:04 PM
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So now it’s about getting ripped? Not sure where you’re getting at. I simply said before being fit beats overweight by a long shot. I don’t know personally Okay then everything else isn’t relevant. I do know that women put their outfits together a lot better. They spend more time on their physical appearance. girls don’t care about body Uhhhhh women would still prefer a fit guy over an overweight guy. How often have you seen attractive women and models with overweight men who aren’t rich? And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:51 PM
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doesn’t mean it helps them get girls But it greatly improves your chances. Being fit and fashionable beats fat and dressing poorly. Bruh, really? guys don’t care about fashion because they care less than girls. How much thought do you think the average young guy puts into choosing and putting their outfits together? Be honest. Again, it’s been consistent of what I’ve seen my entire life. The international male students dress very well. You say men can’t improve, but the point is that they can be…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:24 PM
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Men don’t care about fashion like women do Well, there it is. Yeah maybe they think they’re attractive wearing anything, but the point is, certain clothing can definitely make women look better. All I say is that men also put effort into fashion But how is this relevant? It definitely doesn’t match up to what I’ve seen, and the point is you admit they do it less. So it’s a way to improve their appearance. subs Well, if you’re on a sub about dating or self improvement obviously it will single out…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:12 PM
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subjective from person to person Same goes for women’s fashion, yet they still do it. Why are you trying to hard to be obtuse? You’re doing a mental gymnastics to try to say men dressing better won’t help. why are those representative of all men? It’s not just at college. Everywhere I go it’s pretty much consistent. I mean, look around you. It’s no coincidence my friend says the same at her tech school. To say men in the USA put as much effort into their outfits as women is delusional. You are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:02 PM
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If you know it, then point it out. I already told you to. You couldn’t. Be off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:36 AM
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How do you not see how ridiculous you look? You told me I didn’t look in the correct places, I say where, you can’t say. Just leave you’re only embarrassing yourself now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:32 AM
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Then where did I miss the correct place?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:26 AM
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You’re the one who made the claim then quickly try to leave when I prove you wrong. I even sent in a source that proves it, so I did look. Lmao. Bye.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:23 AM
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If you didn’t care, why make that argument in the first place? Why link the source? You magically don’t care when it doesn’t fit what you want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:17 AM
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None of you ever care for truth. It’s always just about being right.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:16 AM
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There’s a lot to unpack here. “A recent analysis of BJS data, for example, turned up that 46 percent of male victims reported a female perpetrator.” Either way, it is still a minority. They mention women are the majority for sexual misconduct down for juveniles, but that is a specific group of people, not the general population (which we were referring to). Meanwhile, over 90% of perpetrators for women are men. Nonetheless, I do admit a larger amount of female perpetrators were than what I claim…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:10 AM
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No, they don’t. A good chunk of the sexual assault against men is done by other men. It is false to say men are sexually assaulted by women nearly the same rates as women sexually assaulted by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:38 AM
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Stats don’t line up with those sexual assault claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:35 AM
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typical female behavior Surprising to come from the one who hates generalizations. Also, I said that in response to you saying “women exploit men sexually all the time.” Money wasn’t mentioned in this case, moron. Typical male getting so aggressive over nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:27 AM
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You’re very caught up on the “I know how men think.” Then let’s change it to “you have to be careful around men.” Or “I know what men can be like.” To me, it’s the same idea that comes across.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:22 AM
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Women do not deceive men for sex at the same scale as men do for women. We both know men want sex a lot more than women. On all the dating subreddits it’s virtually always men wanting sex first. Yes, that effect is studied in the United States though. You can’t apply that to worldwide and explain away why men still say those things in other countries. It wasn’t studied there. Cultures have significant variance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:20 AM
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My mom’s boss has a son with some wealth, and she told me that her boss told her son to sign a prenup so he doesn’t lose a lot of his shit if a woman divorces him quickly for that $. My automatic reaction wasn’t to call her a self hating woman who generalizes women as gold diggers. Nor say, “Not all women divorce for money!” I was just like, fair enough. She’s just warning him from something that does happen. I have no reason to get so offended… unless I’m a gold digger like that myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:04 AM
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It’s funny you say that because that sentence about the women being whores I immediately understood that people who do say that, it’s not about every single woman. I know they’re not saying every single woman on the planet is a whore. You can tell your son what you want. But there’s a reason why it’s not said on a widespread scale by parents to their kids. Why? Because that scenario happens no where on the same scale as men deceiving women for sex. (Another quote I’ve seen multiple times is “all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:58 AM
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You told me some of your thoughts and beliefs earlier, which I found repulsive. I’m just saying, all you’ve done is confirm the points I mentioned men say in my original post. You don’t see what you said as that bad, and you won’t ever. But it’s part of what those men are talking about. You wouldn’t be so angry if you weren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:51 AM
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But it’s still a shit load of bad. And what matters is protecting the women they care about. You don’t tell your kids to trust people because there’s good people out there and not everyone kidnaps. Like…? Yeah, the ones who aren’t good are the ones who matter. No one said all men. It’s enough men that’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:47 AM
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Hm. There must be a bunch of bozos out there then if so many men come up with that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:42 AM
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No one ever said “all men.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:42 AM
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Okay, so now you’re changing it to you don’t care. You literally generalized women before lol. They hear what other men say. And know what men do. And been surrounded by men growing up. So they tell their daughters that stuff. I think it’s a problem that instead of just recognizing it’s a problem enough for women to be careful, you instead choose to think millions of fathers and brothers and male friends just all must be wrong and self hating across many different cultures and locations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 03:39 AM
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You’re still making a comment/generalization based on the way they act. And men find other men dangerous and deceptive towards women. That’s their opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 02:29 AM
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I mean, those were your friends though. The ones you actually got to know. They all don’t do it off of stereotypes. Many are from what they’ve seen throughout the years. And it’s definitely not just conservatives. When others generalize, they’re wrong and you make up a random reason to suit your own narrative. When you generalize, you’re right because it’s what you’ve seen. Like, okay. So it’s okay for you but not others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:03 AM
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So you had 2 female friends years ago and that makes you entitled to make generalizations. But fathers, who spent their entire lives around other men, are bad for making generalizations about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:31 AM
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Don’t even know that reference. Again, just being purposefully obtuse. Like when you said you don’t hang out with women because you just find them annoying, anyone with half a brain cell knows you’re not saying every single woman on earth is annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:14 AM
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We already went over this. It’s implied it’s not all. We know. You’re being obtuse on purpose again.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 12:10 AM
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By… looking for clothes that looks nice and stylish and outfits that go together? Lol. Or using online sources for inspiration? How much i would say is a decent amount. But for all the men saying how much better is it to be more attractive, that they can’t do anything to improve, they don’t even try to see. Or make an attempt. I don’t think they’re as desperate to be more attractive as they think then if they’re not willing to put in the work to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:45 PM
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A dude putting in effort into picking and choosing the clothing he wears. Like the same effort the average woman does. You’re trying to put a 2/10 dude in the example. Obviously, it would be harder for someone like that, but it would still make them look better. That’s the whole point. If someone’s ugly they have an even better reason to dress better in the ways they can control. I would say they’re mostly average looking. Very few guys stand out to me as balding or short or worn a recessed chin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:51 PM
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I can’t confirm nor deny the first point about them wanting to do it full time. Pretty sure they don’t want to be a sugar baby forever but actually want to use their college degree for a job. More people want to actually marry someone they love/care about then you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:40 PM
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Bar as in very low for clothing is what I was saying. I full on admit she has high standards and deservingly so. She is very attractive, thin, loyal, and smart with a likely high paying career coming up. But I’m talking about the bar being so low with men and clothing. And how it’s an easy way men can improve in looks but 90% don’t. I do. I see the international male students and how they dress. They easily look so much more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:38 PM
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It’s not necessarily to just fulfill the demand of men. You do know a lot of sugar babies are college women looking to pay their expensive college fees? It’s not just for the sake of it. The vast majority don’t end up marrying their sugar daddy/baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:34 PM
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Guys end puberty 16-17. That’s really young and they definitely looked older. True, some people put on a bit of weight and it looks decent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:32 PM
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True then, men don’t have that flexibility, but there’s still a lot of things they can do even though feminine clothing isn’t available for them. One of my friends goes to a tech school and I joked around with her before she must have a lot of men to choose from and it would easy to find a guy she likes/finds attractive. She was like, “Well, they really don’t know how to dress well. Their clothing doesn’t even fit them properly and their moms picked it out for them (referring to how it’s not sty…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:29 PM
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Again. We all know it’s not all men. We talked about this already.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:26 PM
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Most of them looked like adults to me in the “before” photos. I do agree losing weight for both genders is the most impactful way to improve your looks, unless you’re already fit. With over 70% of both men overweight though, and men saying how difficult it is to be in the top percentages of looks, I do question it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:22 PM
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No, it’s that you’re so deep into it that you don’t see how you saying “it’s not a big deal women get used for their bodies” is horrific. You don’t see it as a big deal, when it is for women and therefore their fathers. You can’t comprehend it, and it’s why you don’t see how you’re confirming what fathers say.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:19 PM
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Yeah, with the balding I agree, but there’s still solutions to that like certain cremes. Isn’t there a creme for that or I’m just going nuts No there’s not? Go on the male fashion subreddit. The only guys who think there’s none are the ones who don’t try lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:18 PM
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For someone angrily telling me how wrong the fathers are, yet confirming what they said, it’s not a convincing argument. “There are worse things” doesn’t change it. In fact, since this is already really bad, and you say it’s not even bad because there’s many worse, proves the fathers right once again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:15 PM
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I don’t understand this response. You’re still confirming what I said. It’s not a big deal to you. It is for a lot of women. “It’s not a big deal.” You’re only proving the “I know how men think” fathers say. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:11 PM
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You told me you don’t think it’s a big deal for women to be used for sex. Sounds like they’re correct about the “I know how men think”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:03 PM
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Fathers still wouldn’t want their daughters to be around something who believes in something like that and reasonably so. I definitely wouldn’t want my friends or anyone I care about to be with someone who thinks that way. Perhaps you feel angry about their comments because it’s about people with similar thought processes to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:00 PM
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Only a man who says it’s not a big deal for a woman to be used for her body would probably do something like that. Either way, you justify it. You’re the man the dads warn about. Wouldn’t want their daughter with someone who believes that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:52 PM
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Men’s responses may be diff. Yet, partially for this reason, I mentioned women before in regards to getting hurt for being used for sex. You accused me of being a sexist for that for saying women instead of people. Yet now, you’re agreeing with me. Hm. I mean, you say it’s jack shit but you sort of still proved them right by saying it’s not a big deal when women are deceived and used for their bodies. If you wanted to date women, you would do the same things men are warning women about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:50 PM
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It’s like saying “it’s not true women prefer tall men because it’s because it’s your opinion.” Yeah, obviously there’s exceptions, but it’s clear when one is obviously more common. Again, you’re being obtuse on purpose to minimize that kind of trauma people go through. I mean, alright. I’m content though. You hate women, yet it bothers you immensely when men tell women to be wary or careful of men. Like, why do you even care if you don’t even want to be around women in the first place. Youre all…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:38 PM
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Because it is. Ask around you. Would you rather someone deceive you that they cared about you so they can use your money or your body? And how does that even relate to what we were saying about me ignoring men? What? You tried to claim I was projecting to be lonely in regards to the opposite sex. That doesn’t make sense because I told you before about the male friends I have, while you had 2 female friends years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:30 PM
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I literally talked about a guy getting used and deceived and questioned how you don’t see that as traumatic. Stop making up random stuff. I’m fine. Yeah, I feel lonely at times, but I have friends. You had 2 female friends… years ago. You literally posted on forever alone before lol and were happy to stem your sexual/romantic urges. You sure I’m the one projecting? Why would you even be on a subreddit like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:26 PM
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Are you dumb? Our conversation regarding this was primarily about women regarding getting used for sex, so I just said women. Now you’re just a bad troll. You definitely were lying about your ONS. I think you’re just bitter no women wanted to be with you, so you try to say you just self selected yourself out by choice and decide to just hate women. Classic case of the fox and sour grapes. Despise what you can’t get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:21 PM
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if you asked the women around you this question, you would know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:11 PM
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Ok. Have a feeling you’re lying, but only you’ll know the truth. Again, being obtuse on purpose. What now? Technically everything is subjective with emotional pain, from getting robbed to beaten to getting dumped. Yet, we know it’s bad enough. But yeah, being used for sex is extremely shitty, especially when you deceive someone knowing how they feel about you to selfishly get what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 05:05 PM
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Interesting. How many people have you dated? Or slept with, since you mention casual experience. Yeah but it’s a different kind of trauma. And being robbed doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll take everything you have, what. You’re just being obtuse on purpose again. Yeah I never said anything about that. You’re making that argument in general but it’s not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:58 PM
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You only had two female friends, years ago… how do you know they don’t like serious men? You didn’t even try. Being lied to that someone you love loves you and then they use your body is still something that seems pretty serious, even though it is consensual. I remember reading about a woman who was with a virgin guy, and the virgin wanted his first time to be special and with someone he has something meaningful with and whatnot. Well, the woman was horny and so she said a bunch of shit she didn…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:46 PM
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I’m saying it’s about men who justify or do those terrible things. You justify them. So it is about men like you because if you did pursue women, you would do those very things fathers have warned women about. So it’s a good thing you want to stick to yourself. Those men who warn their daughters or friends know it’s not about them, so they don’t feel attacked. You feel attacked because the shoe fits. I didn’t say it’s not a big deal. I said in comparison to sex it isn’t. That’s why robbery and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:29 PM
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Never victim blamed. Never said them getting deceived into sex isn’t a big deal. Didn’t shame them for sexual choices they choose to make. You can continue to think fathers are self hating and saying repulsive things by trying to protect their daughters while you justify deception and abuse by saying women are responsible for seeking that out. Hm. Maybe you’re so offended about the things they say because it’s about men like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:06 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSoWXaZKNEI&t=278s Some of these are good examples. Men think they can’t do a lot to improve because they haven’t been shown it. I mean, all the ugly to attractive stories we’ve seen by pop culture are always women. And that’s when she’s valued more. I do agree it is generally easier for women to improve their looks because of make up though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:35 PM
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Men can do a lot to improve. For one, I can’t emphasize how male fashion and dressing well makes an impact. But I rarely see men do it to the way even the average woman does. And hair makes a solid difference too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:31 PM
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I mean, you said some pretty repulsive things regarding women in general, so I take your opinions with a grain of salt now
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:28 PM
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Agree to disagree I guess. I’m not saying what you’re saying isn’t true for some cases, it is. But there’s zero evidence for it being the majority and completely goes against my experience, being surrounded my people in college and a lot of them are striving for high paying jobs. And the statistics that are available don’t line up with it, too. Men who earn less than their wives are more likely to cheat, not less. It’s the ones who earn more who are least likely. In fact, in the source you sent …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:26 PM
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You said it was my generalization. It wasn’t mine. I didn’t say I agreed with it; I simply noted it as one of the things I’ve seen men say and just said “damn” in response.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:21 PM
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Yes, trophy wives are a thing. Wanting an attractive woman is nothing new but to imply before they all want sugar babies isn’t realistic. A lot of infidelity starts in the workplace. That could be one. Not everything men do is for women. Maybe you would do that if you want a high paying job, but that’s def not everyone. There’s single men who stay in jobs with brutal hours because they like the money, even though it sucks time away to meet women. When we were all young, we all dreamed of being r…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:31 AM
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Which generalization in my og comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 06:26 AM
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How old are you? I just see the most whack ass things said on this site and I’m gonna start asking this question. I see things on here I’ve never heard anyone say in real life or anything close.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:16 AM
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Then why don’t all men with money get a sugar baby? They’re a minority. Maybe they, I don’t know… actually want a partner? And not pay someone to hang out with them every time? Why do you think older men cheat then? Drop in sex from the woman. Unable to stay loyal. Wanting to be with someone new for the excitement. It’ll vary by situation. But I’m not going to say they try to earn more money so they can cheat. That doesn’t even make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:15 AM
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So you can say “I’ve had enough interactions” to just not hang out with women altogether, but you say it’s generalizing and bad if men said the stuff about other men because of their interactions? Or mine? Or other women? It’s interesting because despite the stuff we discussed, I still didn’t cut men out. But you did for women, even though it’s “not all women.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:05 AM
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You think most dudes would want a sugar baby? Yeah they do cheat a lot (which is why I think it’s projection every time I see a red pilled saying all women cheat), but that’s not evidence it’s just because of that? You’re drawing random conclusions to fit what you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 04:01 AM
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how do you find them irritating if you had so little interactions with them throughout your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:14 AM
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Yeah don’t worry I know you’re referring to men in general. I genuinely think you’re answering these questions because you personally would do that. You’re projecting what you would do onto other men. Judging from our conversations, you’re probably a virgin and have minimal experience with women. Not saying that as an insult but because of what our conversation was about. And from what I’ve seen, the men around here practically try to revolve their lives around women this and women that. You’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:52 AM
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Now you’re definitely nitpicking. Insisting they say, “Some men” every single time. Lol. I’ll end the convo here like I should’ve earlier. I personally think you are out of touch. Again, I choose to believe the fathers and brothers who talk with no filter to those they care about the most over someone who thinks men deceiving women for sex is no big deal. And who thinks women are bad if they don’t want to fuck any guy but also bad if they do. And you had 2 female friends years ago. You simply wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:39 AM
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You want them to say “but not all men” in every breath every time? We know. They know. I know. I know my dad and close male friends. You don’t. They aren’t referring to themselves. They’re simply looking out for me and don’t take it as a personal attack when warning. Because they know it’s not about them. So they have nothing to be offended about. Like the millions of dads out there saying the same to their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:33 AM
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Those are the friends who warn me in the first place lol. It’s like, “How do you love to generalize men when your dad doesn’t do those bad things??” Like… have you missed everything we discussed? We already know it’s not all men. They just don’t take it as a personal attack because they know it’s not about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:28 AM
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lol maybe At least u admit it lol ur just nitpicking Not really? You make a hefty claim, I ask for the source, which proves you wrong. Then you try to say “might not be the same source as I saw.” Like dude. Then you change your entire argument of 2% of rape accusations being true to “well we don’t know many are true.” It’s just annoying you’re not even reading the sources you send, because again, you’re just arguing to argue. I’m arguing because I actually believe what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:27 AM
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It’s weird you tried to claim if you had minimal interaction with women, mine must be nonexistent with men when you already knew I had a good amount (from the stuff I said earlier). Then you tell me you had 2 friends from years ago. At this point you’re just saying whatever to just disagree with me, not because you believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:24 AM
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sluts aren’t loyal You told me, that the fact I don’t just want any man stuffed inside of me, makes me a Puritan. The only person who would be okay with any man inside of her is a major “slut.” So looks like you’re just looking to hate on women either way or demean their choices. Hm. might not be the same source I saw before Then why link it? Lol. Bruh. Just say you didn’t read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:22 AM
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How many is a couple? How long is over time? lol you’re being very vague
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:17 AM
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You just said it’s a Puritan view to not just want any man stuffed inside of me. But a big “slut” wouldn’t mind too much. But you dislike sluts. So which is it? Your source… doesn’t say anywhere 2% of rape accusations are true? What? Lol. I only found this: In their analysis of sexual-assault cases at a large university, the authors found that 5.9 percent of cases were provably false. However, 44.9 percent cases “did not proceed” – meaning there was insufficient evidence, the accuser was uncoope…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:15 AM
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Friends or best friends? Friends? It’ll take too long to count if I really think about every single one since high school. Best friends? Probably 3. One in high school, two right now. Have 1-2 more pretty close ones. So how many female best friends have you had? You avoided my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:09 AM
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I mean, if you think it’s fine if your future wife had sex with 1000+ men before meeting you, that’s you. You think getting robbed is worse than being deceived for your body. We view things too differently. I don’t even know what you’re trying to say with the 2%. I just stated what I stated. But I am interested when you say only 2% of rapes are proven true. Do you have a source for that? Anecdotes are not relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:06 AM
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How many female best friends have you ever had? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:02 AM
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That doesn’t make any sense. There’s so many men who work jobs that require so much time they don’t even have time for another woman. There’s some who are already married but still strive for better.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 02:01 AM
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You said that but then proceed to say it’s not a big deal. I find that immensely disturbing. You think it’s a Puritan view to not just want any man stuffed inside of me? Again, victim blaming. It’s laughable that you think dangers of rape or getting your body used is the same as getting used for money. I would rather be robbed than raped or deceived for my body any day. Funny how you mention “cry rape” when that so seldomly happens. A man is more likely to be raped by another man than be accused…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:59 AM
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Your plan to tell her to just go after men who are thoughtful and independent is pointless. There’s plenty of bad people who have great masks. You can believe women love bad boys. It’s clear you have very minimal interaction with women anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:55 AM
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Yes, it’s all the father out there the ones being idiotic telling their daughters to be wary and careful. You accuse me of ignoring due to your own dogma but you didn’t even deny my statement when I said men will say anything for sex. You only said it’s not a big deal, which is disturbing in itself. Where did constantly being deceived come from? I only said that it happens and it’s something to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:53 AM
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And there it is. Literally victim blaming. I genuinely hope you never have a daughter because I know if she ever gets hurt or used and tries to talk to you about it, you’ll blame her right away. I don’t know how anyone can say something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:48 AM
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I mean they fuck you and then leave. This has been an old tale. But we are just going in circles now. You think fathers are self hating, deceiving a woman to let someone stuff themselves inside of her isn’t a big deal, and basically “not all men.” There’s no changing your mind, and there’s no changing mine too. I’ll choose to believe the men who care about me the most and also what other men say to women they care about the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:46 AM
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“Men will say anything to have sex.” =/ women are simple minded fools. I’ve been told men will play for months to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:41 AM
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I guess 90% of fathers are self hating then. Again, if you have a daughter, raise her the way you want. Will you genuinely never tell her to be wary of men and simply say it’s not all men?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:40 AM
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Eh, I can’t take your opinion seriously when you just basically said “who cares” if a man deceives a woman into letting him fuck her. At least I can see why you believe what you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:38 AM
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My male friends say this, conservative or liberal. One is even the type to make fun of feminist-types, and he did slip out a warning about men. My dad, who is very traditional and sorta sexist, didn’t warn me a lot growing up, but when he did, it was heavy. He had no issue telling me to never pass out at a party because I will likely get raped multiple times. He has no problem saying men are bad. He simply knows the dangers and knows beating around it will only endanger me. If I told him he was …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:35 AM
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I mean, if you have a daughter one day you obviously don’t have to tell her any of this. You don’t have to warn her of anything and just say most men don’t rape and hurt and stuff. But I can guarantee she will likely get used and hurt if you don’t tell her anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:29 AM
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All others exist but extremely disproportional by men. You know the saying, “Men will say and do anything to have sex?” That is technically not rape. But it is deceptive and hurtful, and as someone who views sex as something very intimate, so horrible. And it’s normalized. Male friends and fathers share this stuff because they know.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:25 AM
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You think them getting a good job and all that is just for a woman? Not for themselves at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:24 AM
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You think it’s only about being a rapist? That that’s the only way men can be bad or deceiving or hurt someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:21 AM
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I have to disagree. There’s a reason why so many male relatives—brothers, fathers, close male friends will tell these things to women. “I know how men think, you have to be careful, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did that, etc.” They don’t have to be liberal or feminist or anything—it’s across the board when men say this to women they care about. It slips out, intentionally or unintentionally. I don’t think it’s all nonsense. There’s good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:18 AM
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Was he self-hating or being honest? I mean, fathers have always said, “I know how men think…” Its an infamous line at this point. It’s just the truth only comes out to women they deeply care about. Men don’t tell women they don’t care for a lot this stuff because it works against their self interest. It’s not the same thing as the abortion comment, but it rings a similar idea. Are so many fathers just all self hating?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:09 AM
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But I think it’s a stretch to say men determine their value from their body count. I’ve seen way more men focused on their careers, getting $ instead of paying so much attention to trying to sleep with women. And all the dudes I know who are secure in their masculinity, some virgins some not, don’t care for body count. Why does the red pill always claim it’s about self improvement and not women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 01:07 AM
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determines value For yourself? Because a lot of dudes don’t even reveal their number. There’s dudes who don’t care about how much of a body count they rack up too, and they tend to be more secure in their masculinity. The ones who are like, overly stressing about it seem the most insecure. I would say a man’s job probably gives him the most value, just like a woman with her looks. I actually do agree some women like the bad boy/asshole stuff. However, it’s almost always immature, insecure women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:17 PM
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Yes, I agree. But that doesn’t mean we just ignore the stats. Same with your stat about the yearly sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 11:12 PM
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59% of men had a one night stand https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.datingadvice.com/studies/5om3o/amp Men just don’t want to admit there’s more than looks/money. Every time I see a guy accuse a woman of solely caring about looks (which i see so much in these communities), it’s projection. Lost count for the amount of times I’ve seen men say the most important thing for a woman by far is to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:06 PM
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Is getting laid really that important to you? Because a lot of men around here act like it’s the most important thing ever. Yes, he is psychotic, but he still didn’t get any women. Some might even argue he’s supposed to get women because he’s psychotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 10:04 PM
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I added confidence because looks aren’t everything. Or wealth. Example: you prob heard of Elliot Rodgers, the dude who was so upset no women liked him he killed a bunch. Hated and killed some men too, because he was upset they got women and he didn’t. Hailed as a hero in the incel community... which I don’t get because he proves they’re wrong. If you don’t know him, look him up. Trash personality aside, he is actually an above average good looking guy. There’s wayyy worse looking people who got …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:42 PM
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Most people have had a one night stand before. Those don’t involve money.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:35 PM
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I do think it is hard to get sex, particularly casual sex. Easier with good looks though and confidence. But damn, some people on here act like it’s only the top 5/20% when that’s not true. I can’t comment on the past because I wasn’t alive back then, but seeing some of the comments here from older men, it looks like it was easier (if what they say is true).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:35 PM
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Mentally mature more slowly. And the whole older man younger woman thing is pretty much natural and pretty much across all cultures. If you read the Wikipedia page on age gap disparities it does confirm this. Yes, I do think their standards are increasing but not in the way you are thinking. Just a few decades ago (1960s) women could open a bank account. Marital rape was legal like up until the 1990s in some states. Men were the breadwinners (being the only one bringing money is a huge power dyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:33 PM
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All good. But you are probably young right now anyway. I’m sure you thought that or exaggerated that because it’s what you’ve seen written so much on here. You will be fine. There’s very few dudes who actually end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:21 PM
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Black and Hispanic men statistically make the least money but are not getting laid at significantly lower rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:15 PM
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Wait why would a man get laid if he’s not found physically attractive? The 80/20 is from 20% having sex with 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:02 PM
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I never disagreed women are pickier with sex than men. Again, I said it’s overblown especially when we got a lot of people on Reddit saying the average man will never be sexually desired. all I’m saying that women’s increasing standards and making it harder and harder That’s a different conversation. Maybe it is the case, maybe not. As you said, there’s many factors. But it’s not what you said originally and what I responded to. I was talking about the most guys will never be desired no matter w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 06:01 PM
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Because I’ve been on OLD before. And I see OLD profiles posted on Reddit for feedback. They suck. I’m a college student. So many men don’t care for women. Yes, there are some who really try to get with women, and there are some who sort of try. But a whole lot of them don’t care. They play video games, stay in their dorms, hang out with their male friends, and sometimes do have female friends or just treat women politely. They just don’t go out of their way to try to get with them. May I ask how…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:50 PM
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Neither of us can make concrete claims since it’s all self reported Well, now you say that when it goes against what you believed. You had no issue believing the yearly sex study to show your point about the trend. Furthermore, the study you linked is different, but it still goes against your point. It’s still a minority of men who couldn’t get laid. That is consistent across board. I’m talking about the gap between women who haven’t had sex in the past year versus men I see. I don’t disagree wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:47 PM
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On a side note, I’m fairly certain you believe in the 80/20 rule. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it lines up with other things you’ve said. But looks like it’s the 87/72 rule. Sounds a lot different, huh? Again, all this “average guy will never make the expectations of women” thing is just said by men who are struggling with sex and dating to feel better. No one wants to feel like they’re left behind or the “bottom of the barrel.” I’m not saying you’re the bottom of the barrel whatsoever (since I’…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:28 PM
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Women typically don’t have to work to get sex. Men come to them. If a man does not try to talk to women, chances are, he’s going to struggle to lose his virginity. You can’t expect the rate to be equal for men and women. Furthermore, I completely agree that women have more choice for sex. And they’re typically picker with it. That’s obvious. I’m saying the “most men will never be desired no matter what they do” troupe is laughable. The men who say this is trying to speak for all men to feel bett…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:21 PM
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Forgot this one What do you define as trying? Actually taking decent pictures for OLD. Actually actively talking to women and asking them out. To put it a step further, improving fashion sense (most men dress terribly) and working out to not be overweight or more fit. A lot of men don’t care enough for women and are focused on other things, which is fine. But they’re part of the statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:17 PM
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I mean, you’re just trying to take the data and twist it to confirm what you already believe. In the future, the trend can continue. You mention a variety of factors, which could be things like everything being more digital and people just hanging out less in person. Or increased caution about things like STDs in regards to sex. Or maybe something we haven’t even thought of. But instead, you say it’s confirmation men can’t meet the expectations of women… despite 72% already doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:10 PM
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2006 Virginity stats have still remain relatively the same. https://www.good.is/Health/chart-lost-virginity how big the gap That doesn’t make any sense. All women can basically get sex. The gap is that men are having MORE sex than them. You don’t think that’s an issue? No? Just like with women, the younger one is, the more likely one is to be a virgin. Younger men typically have less of a pool because they usually date younger and women usually date older. So are 70% of women Bruh.l. What? You’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 05:07 PM
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Okay… but it still completely contradicts about what you said about most men never being able to meet impossible standards. Not in the past, not now that happened. And not ever so far. You’re changing goalposts. 28% is nowhere close to over 50%.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:57 PM
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ending up typing way more than expected but I’m tired of seeing the “women’s standards are too high and only the top 5-20% of guys get sex” trope. Like, if a test had a 72% passing rate with a shit ton of students not even studying for it I ain’t gonna accuse the professor of the test being too unreasonable and point figures at him. I’ll look in the damn mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:31 PM
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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/03/on-late-in-life-virginity-loss/284412/ And the numbers are from CDC. I’m not saying your source is wrong; it can be correct because mine is about virginity loss, which obviously only needs to happen once while yours is yearly. Also, do you think 28% is actually a bad stat? You just told me the majority of men aren’t desired, going as far to say no matter how much they try. Looks like 72% are. Let’s break it down further on why I think it’s a dam…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:29 PM
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In the USA, 85% of men are no longer virgins by the time they are 20-24. This drops to below 5% by the time they reach 25-29. I don’t know why so many of you say most men will never be desired. And don’t forget, over 70% of men are overweight or obese. So those numbers are looking good, for women with supposedly too high standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:59 PM
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What about the fathers who speak “badly” about men to their daughters? Would you say that’s equivalent to talking badly about themselves? Or perhaps there’s something more going on. It’s male relatives and male friends who say the most, in secret. It’s just only a problem when women start saying it, too. A comment I saw online, written by a man, I’ll never forget: “If you could read the minds of men, all male babies would be aborted.” Obviously it was an exaggeration, but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:52 PM
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Those 1-2% of online dating profiles might not even be real women. And again, you keep on referring to online examples, in which you cast a gigantic net to be able to talk to them. So again, when has a female friend of yours or girlfriend demanded you send her food? Furthermore, a link in their profile isn’t demanding you anything. Using sugar baby sites isn’t demanding you anything. They’re going onto a site where men willingly pay money to have eye candy. Again, getting drinks from a guy is us…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:20 PM
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Girls often demand guys to send them food, cashapp payments, etc. This comment makes it clear you actually have no close interactions with women in real life and get all of your notions from women online. How many girlfriends or close female friends have you had? How many times did you hang out with a female friend or date and she demanded you send her food or cashapp payments? u/merlinscalculator Tell me about it. It’s concerning how out of touch people on here are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 04:53 PM
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Bruh I wasn’t even asking you. He (the person I asked) had already answered my question about 13 hours ago
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 04:13 PM
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Okay, I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:59 AM
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Do you have a lot of options? Also, so you’re telling me you’ll ask someone if they had an abusive ex, and then if they said yes, you’ll say, “Sorry, not interested anymore”? Or if they mention it. Similarly, let’s say there’s a woman you meet and y’all click very well and you’re liking her a lot. But once you find out she has a bad past, you dip?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:26 AM
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I think it’s a really shitty thing to do from both ends, because people are different and handle trauma differently. But it’s your choice to do what you want with your dating life. But judging from your history, I don’t really understand why you’re still going on dates anyway since you don’t seem to have a favorable view of women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 02:16 AM
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So would you say it’s reasonable if a guy opens up about past trauma to a woman, and then she leaves him because she doesn’t want drama from hurts in her life too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 01:51 AM
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While not perfect, it sure does a much better job on the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 05:31 AM
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I don’t think that’s going to make you satisfied and genuinely happy in the long run, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:33 PM
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I would assume that when you refer to a successful marriage you’re talking about the first marriage lol so I thought that’s the most relevant one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:26 PM
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I mean again first marriage divorce rate in the USA is like 30% and lower if you’re college educated. Really not as bad as so many people say it is considering this is a commitment for life. But you are ofc free to do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:24 PM
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And I’m saying people didn’t divorce back then not because they’re necessarily more committed or devoted but because of unhealthy societal expectations. Divorce rate in Saudi Arabia is 1.8% in 2017. Would you say they’re so much more committed and loving and happy? Press X to doubt. The marital rape point is to show you how awfully women were treated back then, and to show how a lower divorce rate doesn’t mean more genuine commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:21 PM
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Also, it’s 9.2%
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:15 PM
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Do you really think it’s because the couples were so loving and committed? Or because sexism was extremely normalized against women and divorce stigmatized? And many people stayed in abusive relationships they should’ve gotten the hell out of. A lower divorce rate doesn’t automatically mean more loving and committed and healthy. Hell, marital rape wasn’t even seen as a thing at that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:15 PM
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I mean, the divorce rate has actually been going down for decades now and it’s highly varying. Race, income, educational status greatly varies it. First marriage divorce rate is only like 30% and around 20% for those with a higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:11 PM
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A common trend I’ve seen is that a guy with a decent body count doesn’t care about the woman’s. If he has a lower body count, he’s more likely to care. Of course, this is a generalization, but it’s a noticeable correlation. And then there’s the yOuRe JUst iNseCuRe argument, which I do think holds some truth to it. Nothing unreasonable with being insecure since I am as well, but it’s part of the equation I would say. The men I see not insecure and very comfortable with themselves sexually don’t e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:10 PM
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Okay, I see. I wasn’t saying you couldn’t, just that I don’t get it. Something tells me that if you really did find a woman you liked who wasn’t a virgin, you would overlook it because naturally, as humans, we crave love and companionship. But of course, I can’t say for sure because you’re a stranger on the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:07 PM
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You’re not alone in that way since a lot of men do mention feeling disgusted thinking about their partners past. But deciding you don’t want anyone but a virgin is a new leap that I haven’t heard of. Usually it’s just the don’t ask kind of thing. Because if you go out of your way to ask about your partners history, you won’t be happy with any answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:05 PM
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I’m saying it’s weird in the sense that you’ve completely given up on committing to women anyway. Because then I would see it as pointless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:04 PM
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So the main thing is that thinking about your partner’s past makes you disgusted? And you can’t get past that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:03 PM
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So, may I ask what’s the point of your comments then? Unless you just enjoy talking about it, which I think is weird. Like, if I were to be certain I wouldn’t commit to any man in my life and just give up on them, I wouldn’t be interested in discussing them. Because I know I want to remain single for life, so I couldn’t care less about what they’re up to sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:01 PM
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Can I ask you how many close female friends you have? And your body count? I don’t mean to ask in a condescending haHa iNcEL way. I’m asking because your views on women don’t reflect reality at all, and I find that a common denominator is that people with similar views don’t even know a lot of women in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 10:00 PM
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Also I would argue sexual trauma increases promiscuity. Generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:57 PM
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So to clarify, what you’re saying is that you’re not looking for a virgin woman because you’re not looking for any woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:56 PM
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Even if you somehow find a woman with your impossible sexual standards, you are almost guaranteed a dead bedroom. She will likely not be adventurous in the bedroom at all and have a very low sex drive. I think a lot of men forget this when they say they want virgins. But then again, I don’t know your sex drive, so maybe it’ll work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 09:54 PM
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It’s fine because you say it would make her respect you and like you more. But anyway, so you’re def MGTOW then?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:00 PM
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Why wouldn’t you want the woman you like to like you back?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 06:00 AM
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Go treat the next woman you are interested in like crap then so you’ll get her respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:40 AM
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It would make more sense to say the percentage of women who receive alimony. It doesn’t make sense to respond with the gender proportion of those who do. Around 10% receive it. 10 for every 100, much lower than 25% in 1960.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:38 AM
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Cherry picking doesn’t change the data. But of course, if I don’t do it for you, we know you won’t do it. Ironic you accuse me of cherry picking data because you didn’t get the right numbers. You have to look at the numbers from the married men and women with children because this is what this thread is about (women doing more household and childcare work despite also working a lot). You took numbers from the general civilian population. Single men and women aren’t relevant (in this discussion).…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:18 AM
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Huh? Your source doesn’t prove your point at all and supports the flip side. This topic is surrounding the fact of household duties and how that disproportionately falls on women while they still work as well. It’s laid out in the link you provided: On an average day, 85 percent of women and 71 percent of men spent some time doing household activities, such as housework, cooking, lawn care, or household management. (See table 1.) • On the days they did household activities, women spent an averag…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 02:36 AM
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