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According to whom are you masculine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/17 02:46 PM
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Well same. Then if your only doing as I do your not doing what the girl described in the OP is doing. I don't get why your disagreeing then,
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:23 PM
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by teaching men not to rape, which is proven to work around the world. Who or how has this been proven? Why are there so many rapes and sexual assaults according to feminists if this works so well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:22 PM
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Again, you're just not following. Do you not believe things can change based on the context and situation? We (men and women) meet people (men and women) because the benefits are greater than the risks (being stabbed, being raped, being killed). What benefits are the to going over to a man's house that you don't want to have sex with and he wants to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:21 PM
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So you never have a buddy over to your house? I have buddies over all the time at my house, but never one's that want to have sex with me that I don't want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:20 PM
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You're too sexist to comprehend my point. Classic feminist calling opposing arguments sexism. This is gold. A person, man or woman, gets benefits from being alone with another person, man or woman. These benefits are greater than the risk of being harmed by that person. That is not universally true. It's never true in the case of going over to a man's house late at night for drinking whom you don't want to have sex with. The risk of harm is far greater since the benefits aren't wanted (sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:13 PM
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I think it's a crime to rape someone. Invited or not. So you have no desire to try and prevent rapes or decrease the number of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:11 PM
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We're discussing the specifics of being alone with a man. We're discussing men raping or having sex with women being alone with them, not murders. You totally exaggerated and misrepresented the scenario, which is a strawman. I made the analogy that one shouldn't get out of the house because he could get killed or something. Exactly thats a strawman argument By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:10 PM
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Why is it worth it for you to put yourself alone with a man considering there's a very small chance he might kill you? A woman could feed you poison food and kill you too! Gotta love those strawmen right!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:05 PM
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The same benefits you get from putting yourself alone with a man. He could murder you. If your equating leaving the house at all with being alone with a man in his own place than you can't have any reasonable discussion. Your just spewing emotional ideas without rationalizing them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:04 PM
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We're talking about action. If you're alone with a man, that doesn't give him the right to rape you, and most men won't. Why should a parent tell his or her daughter not to be alone with a man? No it's about intent. Do you believe its wise to not think carefully about what a man's intentions are for inviting you over? Would you leave your laptop on the roof of your car if you parked it somewhere? I mean no one has the right to steal it right?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 07:03 PM
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But they are also sociable animals who've learned to control themselves. But were talking about one's intent, not one's actions here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:50 PM
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Sounds like you live in a sexist shit hole. Thats not sexism, thats biological undeniable facts. Men have higher sex drives than women and want women for sex much more of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:48 PM
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you can be easily convinced there's a good reason to go be alone at a male friends house, especially if you're not privy to the concept that he will 99.9% want to get in your pants and it's the only reason why he's even inviting you Ok so I am curious though, if you have been in a situation like this before, how does it work in your mind? Like what about it convinces you the situation has no sexual context? Like do you believe the man is really just interested in hanging out? I am not trying to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:47 PM
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how does that make it any less rapey? Because she used to date the guy and had sex before with him? This isn't a Brock Turner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 05:45 PM
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Is that your one goal in life? To get a girlfriend/wife? That's a pretty small goal. If you set larger goals in life, you accomplish many short ones, which may include getting a girlfriend. Nobody is guaranteed one, but if you want a girlfriend that badly, you'll find one. You seem to be dodging the question of why your not giving advice of how he could better improve his chances of getting a girlfriend. Focus on yourself and try to build yourself up to be the best person that you can be. Pursue…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 03:57 PM
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it's probably because he wants to be one. I just mentioned he doesn't want to be one. Don't start with those strawman arguments please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:13 AM
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not real intimacy; How is it not real intimacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:12 AM
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No woman fucking cares about your muscles when you have an average looking or ugly face. Most guys have average faces. You obviously weren't invited to many parties in college were you? Being the most buff gets you the most female attention. Seriously how often do you hear women talking about men's face? And not their built chest or arms?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:10 AM
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Don't be in such a rush, and don't place too high of importance on sex. It's just another thing to experience, so he should focus on gaining life experience. Get out and talk to people. Try new things. Learn and develop a thirst for knowledge and bettering yourself. Also, what might help is to have him put himself into other people's shoes. Volunteer at a soup kitchen. Try fasting or going vegetarian for a short time. Have him put himself in stressful situations for the sole purpose of the exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 06:04 AM
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links ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:26 AM
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Just like how men are visually stimulated, aren't women also horny by a good looking dude? No they aren't. Many women have said here on PPD even that attraction doesn't equate for the desire to have sex. Part of the element of female sexuality is being the object of desire. The idea of the man she is attracted to charming her and going after her in the right way, putting her in the mood, is what gets a woman in bed. They are attracted to how men make them feel. But to them, they literally have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:22 AM
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Oh I see, yea I agree with this fully.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:06 AM
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So in order to differentiate, erotic capital is vital TRP is a coping strategy for men who for whatever reason never realized looks matter to women as much as it matters to men when it comes to all things sexual. No, believing only looks matter to women is a coping strategy for the black pill. No man has ever gotten women purely for putting on a tank top and standing in the middle of a dance floor. His charm and his actions to properly escalate is what get women in bed. Not to mention social sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/17 12:02 AM
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What does niche imply here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 11:54 PM
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Ok, but a lot of students don't formally date in college anymore. How should he learn to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 11:53 PM
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Yes, To be honest, except for men looking for really long term relationships (looking for a wife or SO), an actual wingman really doesn't exist. What I mean specifically is, a hotter man who's abundant with female options for casual to short term relationships very rarely offers women to a different man. On top of that, the wingman will genuinely just make the man he is helping look or be judged worse in comparison to him. In general yes women make better wingmen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 11:33 PM
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if a 10/10 guy approaches a 6/10 girl the 6/10 girl wonders what's wrong with him that would make him go below his league Right but like I said before. This is a hypothetical, abstract idea. In reality, there are almost no girls not wanting to go on a date with Justin Bieber because they think it's awkward he goes below his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 09:55 PM
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If your not open to having your view changed you shouldn't make CMV's I'm not so much referring to you personally but women in your view. Rejecting guys because you don't share something in common is different than rejecting them for being too attractive. Either way it's much more likely a 10/10 guy will simply reject a 6/10 girl than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:32 PM
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Dating a 10/10 is intimidating and as someone who spends moderate but not insane effort on my look, I don't want to feel pressure to have to spend insane effort on my looks. A 6/10 is my looks match and it's a lot less intimidating. But again, your talking in the abstract with a rational mind. If a 10/10 model guy happened to approach you and liked you more or less the way you are you would totally feel different and change your mind. This is without saying you would be more attracted to a 10/10…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 04:31 PM
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This. This doesn't mean anything. Sure it does. Women whom get upset about men not wanting to be friends with them after rejection don't understand how men value sexual interactions much more than friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:45 AM
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For example, I like looking at tall men, but they wouldn't be my height preference in dating. While tall men can look great, they wouldn't look good next to me. The big height difference makes me feel super awkward. I prefer a guy around my height or 2-3 inches taller, rather than 6'+. Likewise, I like looking at male models but I would prefer to date someone who's more of my looks match than a 10/10. OP, the problem here is your claiming women become attracted to men via the rational mind, e.g …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:41 AM
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Am 6ft5 never been with a woman above 5ft7, my next gf is probably 4ft9. Can't say I have noticed anything like that. Exactly. The problem with OP is she attempting to argue that women use a rational mind when selecting men. They don't. They use the reactive mind. How do they react to a towering, or muscular man? They are judging what feelings and excitement he gives them, not how rationally similar he and her are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:32 AM
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No clue, your the one that brought up men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 06:27 AM
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Disagree. Fear of rejection is a general challenge any guy has to some degree. Some guys have less some guys have more. hangs around and does stuff for a girl he likes and would rather delude himself in to thinking she might be into him instead of making a move and perhaps facing rejection. Not about rejection, it's more about having a sort of savior complex. With some of the guys that got stuck in the friendzone I knew in college, the main problem was they wanted to perpetually give more and mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:49 AM
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So, men who want sex and dates from women are selfish? If they want it from a said woman who does not want it from them yes that is selfish and entitled. But not in general of course not. It's basically the savior complex of the nice guy "Oh just wait, she is gonna see those bad boys are trash and choose me instead, I will save her!"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:46 AM
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Being bummed out about losing a friend isn't the same as demanding they remain friends with you. You could just as easily say that men who ask me out are demanding dates. Wanting something is not the same as demanding it. Right but wanting something from someone while knowing your not giving in return what they want is a bit selfish. But I guess women don't understand the male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:34 AM
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he didn't want to be friends, she talked a lot of shit about him not being able to handle friendships with women. LOL, Its funny because the reverse is true for when girls just have casual sex. There are fuck buddies I had back in college where we never really did anything meaningful together, but they would say I was such a sweet guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:29 AM
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They don't mean that shit and they wish you'd go the fuck away, preferably forever. Sometimes they do though. I have seen some of my nerd friends from back in college where girls got them to do like small favors and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:27 AM
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I mean what are we supposed to say? "Leave and never talk to me again?" you don't have to say anything specific. You can simply say see you around, best wishes, and just stop contact.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:26 AM
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(if they are a real friend and not a niceguytm, if they're a niceguytm i try my best to reject them politely but i won't say we can stay friends) But how would you know they are a niceguytm if you haven't given them the chance to be friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/17 05:25 AM
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What if she thought the toy was more pleasurable and exciting then u?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:30 PM
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And besides, very few actual women enjoy something that large. That's irrelevant. It's about how the man feels about their woman using such an object
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 03:17 PM
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actually even say excessive use of large dildos for women would also likely cause similar issues psychologically as excessive porn does in men. This is interesting. Why do you believe this is the case ? I have thought similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 03:17 PM
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The link is an example of a giant dildo I am possibly referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 03:15 PM
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Not at all. Why do you think black guys are often successful with women? It seems reddit is just full of nerds, no one parties here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 03:13 PM
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There are women in the review sections. I mean surely you have heard of the phrase "big black cock"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:48 AM
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that doesn't involve coercion or forcing women to be with men they don't want/not attracted to so yep, You do realize most prostitution in legal countries involves women of their own free choice becoming prostitutes to make more money right? Or are you in denial of this? How did you decide to get into prostitution? I wanted my own money. Both of my parents have a higher education but we were a poor family. When I turned 18 I knew I could separate love and sex. It was a process of thinking about …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 05:27 AM
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In my experience nerdy girls are much more shy and reserved and less likely to experiment with lesbianism or a FMF threesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 12:52 PM
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Do these guys have a sense of meaning in life? How are they, socially? Do they have female friends, a big social circle, or are they just posting up in some guy's basement playing video games? Yea i think this is the best way to look at it. Develop yourself and make yourself interesting and don't focus on being nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:02 PM
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but that they believe that apparent goodness of character confers attractiveness, and they're angry when that proves false. Some of them sadly embrace their darker sides and come to believe that women are attracted to cruelty. This isn't the magic bullet they think it is, though. your are absolutely right. But the thing to do is stop telling men things like this, and it will solve the problem: Once you love yourself you'll see that women actually really like nice guys. They just don't like guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:33 PM
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Even if you do manage to trick a woman into bed what good does that do for your life? Ooh had sex don't care right? Wow what an accomplishment. Had sex. Like that's so difficult to do. Is your life still shitty and you're going nowhere with all your arrogance and empty confidence? Your inherently bias towards people wanting casual sex, therefore any advice your attempting to give is really pointless here. Also there is no such thing as false confidence. Women or men, or people perceive people as…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:31 PM
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No my post does not in any possible way mean that women are sexually attracted to kindness. Yes but your choosing a debate topic (nice guy vs asshole) that is nearly always discussed in terms of sexual attractiveness or creating sexual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:26 PM
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Women also like being in sexual relationships with men they like. This does not mean that being nice makes you sexually attractive. If you are still having difficulty with this I can make you a logic chart to help you out. The logic is perfectly understandable, but your removing the nice guy asshole debate form it's context and placing it in some totally different context to which it no longer holds significant meaning. Women love guys that help them with stuff and give them emotional support, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:25 PM
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I never said that being nice was sexually attractive. Then this post is pointless. Do you think men care whether or not women platonically like them? Did you miss the part where TRP is primarily a sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 04:23 PM
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What does Islam have to do with anything? Your falsely claiming all forms of toxic treatment of women comes from Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 10:24 PM
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It's unlikely to be in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:43 PM
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In what ways would you say you differ from the red pill in anyway? I align with the ideas of what women are attracted to in men and how dominant, masculine men will get the most sex, or like how women generally have higher N-counts than people believe. I don't believe N-count is correlated with relationship success for women, or TRP's obsession with needing to scrutinize an LTR so much. Or this dread game idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:05 PM
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Then perhaps you should know everybody's individual situation before you suggest that advice such as "man up" is good advice. By that logic no advice should ever be given because any advice can benefit or harm people in some way. Your thinking is absolutely hilarious. This is by far the longest and most elaborate straw man I have seen on this sub. I think I call this a hay man!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:54 PM
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the red pill ideology you hold. Do you see a red flair on me? I swear you must be having delusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:53 PM
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I’m just pointing out your hypocrisy There's no hypocrisy here because this post has nothing to do with TRP. Your imagining text that doesn't exist on this web page.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:44 PM
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You haven't stated how your own argument is different than the same argument used to support conversion therapy, though. Why would I? My argument has nothing to do with gay men or conversion therapy. Why should it be okay to tell a man of indeterminate sexuality to "man up," but not to tell a man who you know is homosexual the same thing in the course of conversion therapy? By this logic we shouldn't tell people to take Advil or Motrin since for a small amount of people it causes strokes or seve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:43 PM
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The red pill is based entirely on personal experiences with 1 in 3.5 billion people. It also seems to encourage bullying your partner. So kind of hypocritical. Mind showing me where I mentioned TRP or bullying in my post? Hint: it's not there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:37 PM
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How is this TRP? Because it's connecting the idea being dominate gets you access to sluts and casual sex, or otherwise developing macho traits and a macho appearance. IMO, if you don't want to attract sluts then don't use dominance, etc. But most men on TRP do. The whole opposite TBP makes is that you can somehow be hooking up just fine by just being yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 07:36 PM
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No, I believe no amount of masculinity is inherently toxic. It's all misjudged and made to fit a narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:58 PM
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I've written extensively about In reference to your post, you actually give a lot of evidence in support of TRP. Your giving very good studies that show women who love partying and casual sex are attracted to dominance. But for what your saying about like attract likes to be true you need to show that men who are not domineering or masculine and such can still attract women for casual sex, one night stands, or relationships in equal numbers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:55 PM
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A particularly darkly masculine man might beat the shit out his kid for being homosexual for example. There are many examples of daughters being punished with acid to the face for dating in a certain culture. There aren't many examples of this, that's extraordinarily rare in western countries. Meanwhile France actually prohibits paternity testing unless its court ordered. The idea here is society is much more enabling of toxic femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:49 PM
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Secondly, there is no definite correlation between masculinity and inherent toxicity or harm to oneself. You might need to read more closely... unless your trolling me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:47 PM
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was mentioning psychopathic douchebags That's a straw man argument now. Your using people with catastrophic mental illness (given your talking about true psychopaths) to represent masculinity or masculine men. Your totally misrepresenting and using an exaggerated example. Also you must have missed this part form your link A wave of studies in 2016 suggest that masculine ideals can hurt men's physical and mental health. But they also hint at a healthier aspiration for men. And: Possibly. Usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:46 PM
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So I am not talking about the concept but the actual effect of it in reality. Surely reading my OP would tell you this.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:34 PM
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No self respecting person wants to be with a loser. When a guy is with a woman below his value, it's because he has no self respect. Ah the usual "shitty people end up with shitty people" argument. Can u explain why a man doesn't choose women out of hormones?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:14 PM
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But it still exists and thinking it does not is absolutely meaningless. Just because you say it exists doesn't mean it exists either. You seem to believe your words dictate whether or not something exists. you know I'm a debate you actually have to show proof or evidence...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:10 PM
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Well it's hard to tell without specific numbers, but I don't get what your trying to prove here. From what I see, sluts are not willing to go with men with a lower number of partners Finally, participants with an unrestricted sociosexual orientation (high SO participants) were more tolerant than low SO participants of prospective mates with higher numbers of past sexual partners but were also less tolerant of prospective mates with low numbers of past sexual partners. This would give strength to…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 02:08 PM
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Just because you do not like a concept, does not mean the concept does not exist. I never stated I did not like toxic masculinity. Did you intentionally not read my arguments? Or are you too lazy ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:54 PM
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If it does, then it's indeed toxic for the majority of contexts. IMO, there's absolutely no way denying this So your denying that any man gain any positive benefit off of masculinity? That no women are attracted to masculine men? You don't believe athletes benefit from their masculinity and their status? What on earth is striving for too much status? You seem to be mistaken that we live in a morally restricted world. There is no such thing as striving for too much anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:52 PM
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I swear for emphasis. I just really like that word. Being uncivil is against the rules here. only it's their interpretation of it that is? Correct yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 01:48 PM
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If someone benefits from something how can they be wrong? It seems your just judging other people's circumstances to suit your own narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:25 AM
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My examples have all fucking happened in real fucking life. None of your examples can be proved to stem from masculinity. A woman who's into fitness could want to demonstrate her strength by squatting far too much weight that she can handle, and get hurt in doing so. This has nothing to do with masculinity. Also what's with the uncivil tone? Fine. So in your opinion, if they did happen, would you classify that as toxic? No, because all those examples are is where people made a wrong choice in ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:23 AM
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Motivation: Display strength for peer approval Action: Starting a fight because someone flirted with your goal Result: arrested, a man is assaulted. All of your examples are slippery slopes. Your making wild strawmans on top of that. The vast majority of men display strength via going to the gym and lifting heavy weights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 08:04 AM
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It's not a strawman. Yes it is, Description: Substituting a person's actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position of the argument. Person 2 restates person 1's claim (in a distorted way). My argument was never about gay men or anything to do with converting homosexuals. Your argument is an argument used to support conversion therapy. Nothing about my argument has anything to do with conversion therapy. Stop using the strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:19 AM
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Do you support conversion therapy and believe that homosexual men should "man up" and try to be attracted to women? Nope. Nice try with the straw man though!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:12 AM
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you are literally trying to justify why it was ok for me to be bullied as a child. I am not literally doing that. Your experience does not account for everyone's experience. I never stated any bullying was at all acceptable. To me, you are effectively arguing that it might be good for kids to beat each other with lead pipes, it will toughen them up. Then you must be seeing things here as I never typed those words. I'll gladly get banned from this shitty ass sub if I am just suppose to sit back a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 06:04 AM
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fuck you If your not open to opposing opinions you shouldn't be debating on this post. Reported for personal attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:55 AM
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Toxic masculinity exist, as shown by your post alone saying it doesn't exist. That's a logical fallacy. That would be like saying god exists by virtue of an Atheist saying why god doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:53 AM
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You seem to be avoiding defining what kinds of things you believe toxic masculinity is, so it's pointless because I still don't know what your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:52 AM
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On this point, I do disagree. Manly men tend to be proud of being dumb, always have some quirk or interest that is completely unmanly and ruins their facade, and can turn into blubbering babies when things don't turn their way. That's not really what I was referring to. It's more that people can screw themselves over without even being masculine at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:52 AM
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A cultural expectation of men that leads to deleterious effects Again this could literally be anything. I don't think you have a firm idea of what your trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:49 AM
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Because girls don't like boys who cry. People in general don't like men who cry. It's fine if it's from a position of strength (like Obama crying), but not if crying in that situation signifies weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:48 AM
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I can't tell you how many times I was told to man up and that boys don't cry. But manning up isn't toxic, it provides lots of benefits for those that do.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:47 AM
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It has bad effects. To whom? What is your definition of toxic masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:46 AM
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How the fuck is not going to the dr not toxic?? One could not be able to afford it at the moment if they don't have insurance, or one could simply get over it on their own. Basically, any time anyone (man or woman) says, "a REAL man does x", that's usually a good indicator it's toxic. But why though? You seem to just be blurting out opinions as if they are facts. If I said to be a real student, a good student, you have to study a lot, no one would be saying this is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:45 AM
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toxic masculinity is a thing that exists. But how is it toxic if women support it? My view here is about the idea of masculinity in any form being toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:24 AM
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All of this stuff is European-centered. Oh yea Islamic societies totally never existed right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/17 05:04 AM
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No one expects you to do anything, That's an absurd statement. Do you truly believe no one expects men or women to do things?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:24 PM
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username checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:05 PM
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In reality his 10 could also be some obscure, masculine looking dominatrix woman, or something far from what most of society would consider a 10. Not to mention the account was created 17 hours ago...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 05:00 PM
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And what kind of women have been interested in me? Total 10's. So when your saying total 10's you mean the women look like these women? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2a/77/f2/2a77f2a1974f9e7b92e69c2e3d4a8189.jpg Or this one? http://images1.backpage.com/imager/u/large/337960757/c845e5c5ddb2b5901dc6581a520ac631.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:59 PM
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Are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:30 PM
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were held in Kenya the number of girls being raped did go down? Did you factor that fact into your response? your going to need to pick what area of the world your question pertains. You cannot put poverty stricken, open African societies against modern American society on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:49 AM
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Men rape other men and children as well. The main focus of the "teach men not to rape" talk is college aged men and in reference to college campuses or nightlife -related interactions, not pedophiles or prison gang bangs. These people (typically) get off on the power the act of violating someone gives them and they prey on vulnerable people. Drunk sex at a party isn't getting off on violating someone. That's a slippery slope argument your making.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:46 AM
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During my initial writing of this I was under the impression he was a trans-activist SJW type, not an actual transitioned trans, so that's my mistake. Hard to tell from the videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:14 AM
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the second type is a guy who sees competition in everything and doesn't know when to chill That's basically an entrepreneur mentality. Or any female athlete I have ever known. Again, it's got nothing to do with masculinity. This goes even more to say toxic masculinity is just an emotional catharsis target.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:12 AM
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are you a man or a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:11 AM
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I think you have a good point about the adolescent fixation of society, such as phrases like "college is the best 4 years of your life", or similar, but your arguments are based on extreme outliers or slippery slopes. there's a lot of ugly guys who get laid and have nice girlfriends Ugly men largely aren't getting laid. There was just a study posted here 2 days ago saying 30% of men, less than that of women, ages 20-24 have had no sex in the last year. there's handsome guys who are so hopeless t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/17 04:10 AM
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Exactly my point. Not trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 07:12 AM
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You know that transwomen are biologically male, right? That's the point, they are still men. Riley (Justin) Dennis is confirmed trans Gonna need a source on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:44 AM
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and then tout trans women as 'feminine men'. None of these are trans man. They are all biologically male. The kpop star is well known as being a man in Korea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:41 AM
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So basically, any time a man is being misogynist, it’s because the women is a bitch 100% of the time? No? If both genders have the capacity to be mean or cruel, the capacity to be mean or cruel isn't tied to masculinity or femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:40 AM
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It's a PPD rule, time to report you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:39 AM
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I just don’t like toxic masculinity aka being a sexist asshole. You said that ^
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:30 AM
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Are you a woman? This question is for women. None of them are trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:29 AM
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They are all biological men, feel free to look them up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kaulitz
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:25 AM
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Well looks is all we can judge from a picture. But if girls can be bitchy or mean then being an asshole doesn't have anything to do with masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:23 AM
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None of them are trans, they are all biological man, feel free to looks them up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:22 AM
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I just don’t like toxic masculinity aka being a sexist asshole. That has nothing to do with a man's looks. I don't follow what your saying here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:14 AM
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This OP is not known for being civil and patient on this sub; given that, and his username, I sense an ulterior motive with this thread. It's not really about being civil, he was. It's just he was claiming to hold an "honest" discussion but proclaiming things like "incels can give great insight into female psychology" or that incels who have said hateful things about women are just rare occurrences or aren't actually being serious. He was being completely dishonest and in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:13 AM
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would this photo make you rethink ed sheeran being feminine ?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 06:06 AM
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http://www.ronaldo7.net/extra/body/cristiano-ronaldo-real-madrid-shirtless-body-2010-2011-pre-season.jpg Yea Ronaldo is totally not buff.....
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:13 AM
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What exactly makes the bottom guys "feminine men?" When someone categorizes terrorists and world-class athletes as feminine you know they have gone batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:11 AM
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Sheeran isn't loved for being famous, he's loved for being vulnerable and soft. Where's your proof? You need to prove he is loved for anything else but his singing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:08 AM
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rough men with heavy jaws. Ronaldo has an extremely defined jaw. He is categorized as one of the most handsome men in the entire world in some places. Your not arguing in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:07 AM
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Also, what does being a terrorist have to do with being masculine? Testosterone blood levels are directly correlated to increased levels of aggressiveness and anger. A better question to answer is why are 99.4% of terrorists all men? Why is ISIS limited to men committing acts of terrorism?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:05 AM
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So let me get this straight, you are categorizing a domestic terrorist and serial killer, as well as the world's best soccer player as feminine? You have to be trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:03 AM
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I don't read German so can't point you to a specific one but they have extremely strict hate speech laws http://www.bbc.com/news/av/technology-40444357/germany-passes-stringent-hate-speech-law
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 03:00 AM
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Likely with older men. Why would it be with older men and not just a smaller, more attractive subset of men in the 20-24 range? Girls in college have literally zero older men in their social circle on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/17 02:58 AM
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Sure, this can be true for the top 1-2% of men but not 30%. There's way fewer top notch achievers than u think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:29 PM
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You can still spare 4-6 hours in a week for free time for dating or girls. Even the busiest people still spend time on social media. I mean humans have a habit of concvincing themselves they don't have time when they just don't feel they want to do something.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 10:24 PM
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The phrase "she got addicted to suckling his cock" is pretty damn degrading to me. But see that's your personal opinion. This very could be a woman talking to another woman, or a woman who doesn't mind dirty talk. You can't reasonably categorize hate speech on the opinion of some small number of people, or else anything can be hate speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:35 PM
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These laws are never applied consistently. Exactly. Remember that parade float of Trump's head cutoff in germany? That's totally not being prosecuted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:33 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.a57694ea469b Supreme court says hate speech is free speech.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:30 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/?utm_term=.a57694ea469b
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:29 PM
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Alright, we disagree on some things, but do you agree that in formative ages (20-24) women are having more sex than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 08:13 PM
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That's because they actually don't have confidence that they'll beat an armed criminal only with heir hands/survive a accident with only their skull. Are you trolling me here?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:17 PM
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If they want to marry a doctor only because he's a doctor and earns more than them, so yes, they're also insecure Right, as i said, any desire can be classified as insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 06:17 PM
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In college it wasn't much different because he had an internship going. Confidence isn't his problem Yea internships are during the summer. Not everyone has time to have a relationship or go out and party while retaining their grades. So why do women seem too? Every college student has time to spend 3-4 hours on a weekend partying. Nobody has that much work they need to spend every waking minute on it. And your also going to tell me engineers don't spend part of that on video games?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 05:21 PM
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Perhaps those careers, but there a difference as well in others. I have a degree in engineering. Can't say I partook in that environment, but I know a lot of guys in similar majors, or even those in accounting that weren't ready to deal with women until they got settled into their careers first. Yea they weren't ready to deal with women because they aren't confident, probably don't lift, or don't have a masculine identity as a whole. It has nothing to do with the amount of time. The CEO of snapc…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:56 PM
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I'm describing any situation in which one human being views themselves as lesser than another and wishes to advance their station through association with that person. Which is not the Merriam Webster definition of insecurity you linked me. Much like other BPers your twisting a definition as you see fit for your own confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:30 PM
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Maybe because men are busy at that age going to college to study engineering and women are not as busy getting those degrees in childhood education? More women than men in college and women are pursuing law school, med school, business at very similar rates. Also have you been to college? You have tons of time for going out and hooking up for like 96% of students.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:29 PM
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that could certainly be insecurity-based. Yea and this relates back to my other comment, Your basically describing any decision a woman makes relative to choosing a higher earning man as insecure. By this logic women who want to marry a doctor are also insecure!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:15 PM
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there are, a roughly 8% gap of more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:13 PM
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Plus, did the study take careful steps to differentiate between physical penises and penis-like objects such as strapons? Saying the word penis implies a living breathing one. Your not being reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:12 PM
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This will come as no shock to those watching young men sabotage themselves. The redpill is not supposed to sound like a 4chan image board...in public. The bluepill isn't an excuse to starfish your way through meeting people. The blackpill is just excuses. Have to say this is the most honest comment on this post. People are sabotaging their chances and their success.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:11 PM
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Well they certainly aren't meeting them if they never go where women are. That's a false premise. We don't know where they are or how they spend their time, this study didn't measure that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:10 PM
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Those communities exist because of the Internet and they represent a very small amount of people. Well the actual incels yes, but the point here is the idea of a man in his 20's not actively having any sex is not rare at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:09 PM
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I think that's older men going after younger women, while female singles in their 30s (who also refuse to put out easily now that they "know what they want") are left behind. Or it could be just older men in marriages or LTRs and having steady sex. The biggest piece of information from this study is that in the partying, pre-commitment ages (20-24), women are having more consistent sex than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:08 PM
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Wait so more men getting laid when they get older = proof of beta bucks getting settled for? Not beta bucks, but more men are having less sex outside of the years where LTR's and marriage is the norm. Or more specifically, women are having a much easier time having sex prior to commitment age.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:06 PM
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Personal insecurity as well if she wants the man to earn more because she herself believes she has less earning potential. What if she does have less earning potential?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:03 PM
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Uncertainty or anxiety about oneself; lack of confidence. Again, this can be applied to any sort of activity or situation. We can say police officers are insecure for needing to have guns, or we can say baseball players are insecure for wearing helmets when they bat, or women are insecure for needing to give a ton of effort in their career, or they are insecure because they want to be a house wife, etc. etc. etc. Like I said, it has no defined boundary of what it encompasses, it's a meaningless …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 04:03 PM
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In what way is your motivation for not wanting a woman to earn more money than you--as well as the primary motivation for men joing TRP--a "meaningless buzzword?" Insecurity has no defined meaning, people throw it at things because they feel it fits. I could say women are insecure for being promiscuous and letting tons of guys hook up with them, but you would probably disagree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:58 PM
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Please enlighten me as to not wanting your wife/girlfriend to earn more is somehow not a red flag for insecurity? Is a woman wanting there man to earn more than they do also a sign of insecurity?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:57 PM
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When she wins, I win. Most importantly: WE win! But in the end you lost, since her career aspirations ruined the possibility of marriage. I am a little confused on what you consider winning or losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:55 PM
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I met some of the most non-confrontational, shy people at munches that were doms in their relationships. They absolutely do exist and they really aren't rare. Happening to exist and not being rare are drastically different qualities.....
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/17 03:57 AM
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If you want a good chuckle, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gabby-aossey/muslims-are-the-true-feminists_b_9877692.html
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:57 PM
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6'5" is a cutoff point where it's just too tall for most women tbh. Where did you get this idea from? http://www.hookingupsmart.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Height-and-sex-partners.jpg 6'5" had the highest average partner count, while even 6'6" and 6'7" men had comparable partner counts to the rest of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 11:02 PM
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In almost all of the threads where guys posted their 10/10 women, almost 0 of those women would be considered "not fit" Your using fit as a form of false correlation now. Kim Kardashian is also fit, but she is not well known because of her fitness. Neither is Scarlett Johannsen, the second girl i linked. It's like saying women like men who have short hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:59 PM
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The second woman is not "fit" in terms of male fitness, but she's fit in terms of woman fitness. Correct, but men aren't drawn to women by their fitness. The vast majority of female aesthetics centers around the butt, breasts, face, hair, waist, hips, legs, etc. Such as the recent trend of liking "thick" girls which is a somewhat opposite to being fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:20 PM
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They're both fit. Fit = basically not being too fat or too skinny either. You seem to be looking straight past the second girl's boobs and legs right? Did you purposefully miss those? Besides that, no one uses that as a definition of fit for both genders. https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiPt8DkoLLWAhWoh1QKHYt9BF8QjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fmyfitguys&psig=AFQjCNFVUFTx9ilr87YAZ96fZY1jWz4IAw&ust=1505945093747370 A simple google …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 10:10 PM
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Correct, but in comparison amongst other guys it will be more apparent. My point is that in my experience, increasing height seems to give more female attention. Guys who were 6'5" did exceptionally better than those who were 5'11" or above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:24 PM
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Lol, he once suggested Syria is a progressive country.....
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 05:22 PM
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Well okay, many girls don't want a boyfriend who is smaller than them but that is kind of mirrored by many guy's unwillingness to have a taller girlfriend so I can't really see an inherent unfairness there. A lot of girls want a guy 6 feet or taller, it's not just about whether or not the guy is smaller than them, or some degree of height above them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 04:40 AM
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small waist, shapely thighs, flat stomach = fit None of those require being physically fit in order to have them. That's the point your missing. Fitness models aren't body builders. There just girls who work out. This girl: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIFgYteCpNEwu-IOrPGzsUJaG8kpwyywJD9Xb_kX1VpknMJZxW Won't usually be found as attractive as this girl: https://i.pinimg.com/736x/fe/78/ee/fe78ee00b4bebc6ab4cc55aa74ff5bb3--hollywood-hairstyles-craig-mcdean.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/17 02:18 AM
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And most men are attracted to women who are fit too. Not really no. They are attracted to feminine features like a small waist, big ass or big tits, shapely thighs, flat stomach, etc. These can be enhanced by fitness, but they usually come from genetics/bodyweight or clothing choice. Example, most female fitness models are too lean or cut and lose their feminine appearance for most guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 11:37 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/70selm/debateserious_incel_and_nonincel_politely_debate/dn5oaxx/ How is this even on topic for PPD? It's got nothing to do with TRP or TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 05:13 AM
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You realize this may bring a lot more incels to PPD right? Also he isn't open to changing his view https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/70selm/debateserious_incel_and_nonincel_politely_debate/dn5mjp7/
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:19 AM
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For 99% of the time, sure you can. One look at that post and you can tell it's a troll\venting post. Telling something is your own assumption. Your basically advocating blind-trust as a form of proof. It's not true beyond any reaosnable doubt. It's like saying a bomb blown up on a train isn't terrorism. Listen, if you're trying to use convoluted logic to get a "Gotcha!" moment where you go "See? I told you all incels are misogynists", then there's no point, as this is supposed to be a more "open…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:17 AM
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It matters because, if it's fake, it's just venting out some steam, with no real "hard" feelings. But why would they choose women to vent about? what does a hard feeling mean? You can't just assume someone's intentions based on no counter-evidence. Hatred towards women just because they're women? No. Hatred towards some of the things women do? Absolutely. that's an oxymoron. People's identities are shaped by in large part, their behaviors. Think about it this way, if I said i dont hate korean pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 04:04 AM
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What does it matter if it's fake or not? Do you not believe incels are hateful towards women? https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/70ofbj/if_you_see_a_woman_getting_abused_dont_help_her/ Who would make posts about not helping women getting beat up? People who like the idea of women getting beat up. claim that's the entire mentality of the subreddit. There are no incels that appear joyful or happy towards interacting with women. If you have an example feel free to share it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:56 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/70r4mt/called_a_group_of_young_women_a_whore_to_their/ Thats venting, calling women whores to their faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:52 AM
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/r/incels is indeed often referred to as "a venting sub". This is because it's used as one of the few places on Reddit that such controversial things are allowed to be said, without the user being banned. The reason they're not banned is because the subreddit itself (and its mods) is aware of its culture. That is, to say absolutely ridiculous things without actually meaning them. Yea right https://www.reddit.com/r/Incels/comments/70r4mt/called_a_group_of_young_women_a_whore_to_their/ This tall b…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:51 AM
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Do you think these people were serious, or were they just trolling to get a reaction out of people? They were dead serious. They went into detail describing how he taught women a "lesson" for being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:48 AM
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But the Problem is your dealing with people from an incel sub. There have been some from there who have come here and said Elliott Rodger is a hero.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:45 AM
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Nope, I have reported many of them and they have been removed; you need mod permission for something like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:34 AM
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/u/hyperrreal incels post, these aren't allowed right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 03:31 AM
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I've seen Nice Guyness get culturally reinforced repeatedly by women. Maybe my experiences differ from others but other people claim to have seen this too. Well yes, but remember the other component of being a nice guy is the savior complex. "Oh, that girl, she is so clueless, she just goes with the assholes and bad boys. One day she will see the light and choose me, the right man". -> somewthing like that. There is a sort of moral virtue signaling foundation behind the nice guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 01:54 AM
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But some implies there is some substantial subset of this happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/17 12:12 AM
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So your saying all sex at frat parties ends up in gang rape? Have you ever even been to a frat party?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 10:29 PM
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What do you mean by preying here? Do u not believe freshman girls want to hookup with frat guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 10:01 PM
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There is a lack of women's voices in nearly every facet of society. This is such a general statement it holds no real meaning. Many nations have female leaders, there are many executive level positions held by women at corporations, (Sheryl Sandberg Facebook COO, etc.). Your going to have to clarify what you mean by this? I also feel that we have a very sex-negative culture, in which sex is tied to power, and so women are preyed on instead of treated as equal sexual partners (porn is a good exam…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:58 PM
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Correct yes but some guides believe any sign of a coy no or hesitation means you have to stop promptly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 05:27 PM
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But that's not the reason nice guys keep staying nice guys. Like I said they can walk on any college campus and see what guys are getting all the girls. There is just a sort of denial or the liberation of women, that even the cute nerdy girl you saw in one of your classes took a huge one at a party last night.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:46 PM
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Well it used to be culturally enforced when the standard of dating was courting or being a gentlemen , but not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 04:43 PM
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I disagree with them being equivalents. I do agree though WHATGMG comes from a place of entitlement. Your idea of the BIANG is off The unfortunate fact is that because many women prefer to be diplomatic over being honest (and women do in fact benefit from the positive prejudices which being honest would dispel), the “but you’re a nice guy” talk doesn’t mean what it actually says. What it means is “I don’t find you sexually attractive, in spite of the fact you’re a kind and polite person, and as …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 07:30 AM
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He is referring to "nice guy(tm)" being used as a catch-all phrase to describe any unsatisfactory male behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:25 AM
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Basically all of the ones they deem non-consent could very well be trying to be coy and playful. I have had lots of girls tease with "I am not sure we should be doing this", and then I say "Don't worry it will be amazing", and then she starts going down on me. Words without context or tone of voice are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/17 06:24 AM
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Moral standards for attraction, relationships or sex are extremely relative in modern society. Nice means different things to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 11:01 PM
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The number of men who want big boobed blond bimbos is large but I'm not concerned about them because I don't want that kind of man. Well not only big boobed blondes, but any man in a western nation would be attracted to a big boobed blonde, in addition to other types of women. TRP is obsessed with Instagram models and blond sorority sisters and that's why they all want to become frat gym bros. Well they are focused on girls who like to party. But most if not all women do appreciate men who worko…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 08:45 PM
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Women are the ones whose preference in men is tiny. I disagree, women like a wide variety of men, but all of those varieties are just different combinations of power, strength, virility, or confidence. The personal trainer, the football player, the tattoo rockstar, the big black dick, the soldier, they are all stereotypes but focused around the same core qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:58 PM
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This is correct, but the deeper reason is we don't live in a morally obligated society, at least not in the USA. Freedom is put in much higher importance than kindness or respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 07:06 PM
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Rape is literally sex one doesn't want, Consent has nothing to do with wanting sex. It just means you agree to it. Confusing the two is dangerous. People consent to medical procedures they don't really want all the time. But a better term for the fantasy may be ravishment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:54 PM
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If they did know, then they sound kind of clueless. No they did know since they were in sororities in the same greek community. why does this make them clueless though? No one said the guy wasn't nice to girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:50 PM
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you could say those guys want the kind of girls who date muscular cocky assholes. But this would imply that wanting muscular, cocky/confident/assertive guys is just a small subset of women when it's far more than that. It's a bad argument since it just assumes something with no reasoning or evidence. A better explanation is an asshole to a man means different things than an asshole to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 05:48 PM
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instance, some guys will raise their voices or name call during an argument, and others will not. Women don't want men who don't stand up to other people or for themselves. They don't want pussies who cower to someone arguing with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:15 PM
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It doesn't matter, men are concerned about the impressions they see. If a woman wants a muscular, cocky gym bro that parties a lot, and that seems like an asshole, that's the kind of guy she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:13 PM
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As I said before, niceness has no consistent meaning. I have known guys from a frat in college who were known to make pledges drink their own urine or sit in cold beer for hours, yet girls still called them nice guys or "has a kind soul". When men say women don't want to date nice guys it means they don't like guys who are kind and generous to everyone or don't have any cockiness or tension in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:11 PM
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As I said before, niceness has no consistent meaning. I have known guys from a frat in college who were known to make pledges drink their own urine or sit in cold beer for hours, yet girls still called them nice guys or "has a kind soul". When men say women don't want to date nice guys it means they don't like guys who are kind and generous to everyone or don't have any cockiness or tension in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 04:09 PM
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You should just be posting this on TheBluePill. Here we are interested in debate, not circle jerking rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:08 AM
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Okay, what is BP? It would be based off the common characteristics of the posters here. For the women, high affinity for long term relationships dislike or disinterest in casual sex or ONS. Likes nerdy activities dislike of partying, drinking, or wild partying Not a party girl/ sorority girl type.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 06:07 AM
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Can you tell if a guy is genuinely nice or not? The concept of niceness or genuine niceness has no tangible meaning. It's an idea associated with how a woman feels about a guy she is attracted to. There's no set of behaviors or actions that guarantee being nice, nor is there any correlation with attraction. You actually indicate this in your own post. I'm asking because all men seem nice to me, at least until our interests conflict in some insurmountable way. Also, some of the common requirement…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:47 AM
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"manipulation" is a part of everyone's daily life. It's actually essential to the functioning of society. The reality is no one in real life defines manipulation to such a low standard. Most people don't consider something manipulation unless there is a lack of empathy or connection involved (such as a woman getting free dinners off tinder with no intention of going further)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:38 AM
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If job interview situations are manipulation to you this means almost any form of interaction with someone else that isn't purely generous or kind hearted is manipulative. You have set too high of a standard for any reasonable discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/17 03:35 AM
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it happens all the time. Correct but I think he is just over-estimating the real level of interest the girl had in a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 09:00 PM
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Unless were talking about conservative and religious societies, the only time a woman is actively vetting a guy is up until the first time they have sex. After this there isn't such an on-guard perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:28 PM
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Women rarely initiate outright But the cop could initiate onto the woman, which is the point. Women don't make forward moves, you are correct. But they put themselves in scenarios where they will get approached by the right men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:26 PM
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Imagine a man 7'10" Not a whole lot of women are attracted to a man that tall. Right but that's taller than any NBA player in history, and 8 inches taller than Shaq. 6'5" or 6'6" guys seem to get a lot more attention at the college level than 5'11" or 6" guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:24 PM
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if she was 100% sold in the first few weeks/months before we became official (if we did at all) it'd be a red flag for me. First you mentioned meeting a girl at a party now your saying being together for a few weeks or months? Your going to have to clarify what kind of situation your talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:22 PM
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you can go from 60 to 0 with a woman with just one "off" night at a party. you told a joke that was a little less appropriate than you were hoping? one of your stories wasn't received well and made you look weird? she just became drier than the Sahara. In my experience with parties if this actually happens she wasn't really at a 60. A lot of guys tend to misjudge the level of a girls interest in them and over estimate it. But you would need to give a specific example of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 08:21 PM
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No it didn't, many of the mods defended it, despite obvious signs its a troll. To prove my point the account owner deleted the account, which was a throwaway to begin with. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6zm8n5/cmv_the_sexualdating_climate_of_today_is_toxic/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:41 AM
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Because the user may or may not actually hold this view. It's not unreasonable to believe someone can believe TRP is abusive, or teaches abuse. The other post which I reported and made a counter mod-post on was one with blatantly trolling and bad-faith arguments. The "Taylor Swift test" is an unmistakable direct copy of the Brad Pitt test from TRP, the op does not reasonably believe or actually think of such a test.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:37 AM
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What would a false positive for a abusive relationship look like? A relationship that experiences some of those, such as with holding sex or blaming one or another for things they aren't responsible for but without a motive to abuse one. It could simply be people don't get along, or need to resolve some issues or have more communication. And what would the equivalent of these tools be when talking about relationships? Determining if a person has a motive or desire to abuse the other person in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/17 05:34 AM
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"You have many of the common symptoms of cancer, therefore it's likely you have cancer" is basically how medical diagnoses work. Ever heard of the word false positive before? You can have all the symptoms of lymphoma, yet have one of 40+ diseases that are hundreds of times more common than lymphoma as well. Symptoms are an effect, they do not at all indicate what disease is present. You obviously have heard of X-ray's, blood work, scans, ultrasounds im sure right? "Many of the these behaviors ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 10:41 PM
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How am I not being civil?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 04:43 PM
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she'd potentially do a better job at representing women. But it seems you are just saying this blindly without even bothering to look up some of her beliefs. She's a far right politician that believes all muslims should be expelled from France. Do you really think most women feel represented by her ? I mean do you think Sarah Palin would be a good president as well purely because she is a woman ? EDIT: you do realize women vote for the men in the government right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 03:28 PM
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What's the point in choosing one partner to live the rest of your life with if you don't want that partner to understand you? The OP of this comment trail says don't lie to women, in a general sense, not just your wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 02:31 PM
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The mods have gotten way to lax on CMV quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 06:01 AM
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What if a woman doesn't interpret some of these as abuse?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 06:01 AM
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uhh, the more symptoms of cancer you have, the more likely you are to have cancer!! So your not arguing in good faith right? If someone had achey bones, a cough, sore throat, and a fever they are no more likely to have leukemia than they are mono or the flu. Do you understand cause and effect? Im curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 06:00 AM
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Pressures you to have sex Pressures you to perform sexual acts that make you uncomfortable > or hurt you Withholds sex or affection Tells anti-woman jokes or demeans women verbally/attacks your femininity Accuses you of having or wanting sex with others Disregards your sexual needs and feelings about sex Makes unwanted public sexual advances These are all bound to occur in any relationship. None of these are indicative of an abusive relationship, they are also subjective. Being pressured to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 05:13 AM
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But be aware when you do it and to your best to stop. It's the only way you ever really grow. But the mistake your making is that honesty is not inherently rewarded. We don't live in a society where people are obligated to reward morality. What's the point of being honest exactly in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 05:11 AM
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Your logic is based on a fallacy. It's like saying if you have these symptoms, you have cancer, because you have these symptoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/17 05:09 AM
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women need to have equal representation by our leaders and in government Alright, do you believe a person's gender is that important in politics? Do you think Marine Le Pen would do a better job as the French president? femininity needs to stop being seen as submissive to masculinity. How would you say this could happen though? I mean if were talking about the qualities not people, then I don't see how thats possible. Women are smaller and weaker than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 10:57 PM
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Many traditionally female tasks are not money making tasks, so a system where money is everything will mean that traditionally female behaviors and talents will be overlooked. Neither art nor english are female oriented tasks traditionally. Shakespeare, Homer, Steinbeck, Bradbury, Joseph Conrad, vast majority of well appreciated authors are male. Vast majority of appreciated artists are also male. Beyond you it doesn't seem like anyone labels tasks as traditionally male or female, or academic ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 09:47 PM
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he was in jail for like 2 weeks. But what you said is people always condemn a girl for reporting rape and call her out on it. Are you honestly not looking that it mad international news and took up every single news network in the country for a month? Did you know it prompted The governor of California to pass a law that classifies forced oral or anal penetration as rape instead of sexual assault? Were you aware that it prompted even acknowledgement from congress members and the Vice President? …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 07:20 PM
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Traits that men typically find attractive in women are not considered "success traits" whereas traits that women find attractive in men are conductive to success. A woman's success and attractiveness is either non-correlated or even inverse. So actors and singers looks for women aren't factored in? A lot of the things you are citing are just struggles you deal with in life. I mean on the other side of that coin is things men go through or have to deal with. Or things people deal with that have n…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:22 PM
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what would count as unfair though?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:30 PM
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I don't think that society disapproves of reporting rape. Don't mean to be pedantic about it but stigma doesn't really apply here. There is a large stigma against it if it's done by a refugee, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/02/08/alleged-gang-rape-facebook-shocks-sweden/97633012/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 04:50 PM
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yes if it's done by a refugee.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 04:49 PM
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Not being yelled at and followed literally every single day would be a good start. Do you live in a big city? Or is the "Butt" part of your name indicative of you having a big butt? That does seem more than average for women. Yelling/ screaming/ whistling at/ following a woman is never "trying to talk to her". That's harassment. Correct, I wasn't sure if you were lumping unwanted interactions together with harassment like feminists do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 04:47 PM
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when I can walk around in shorts without being harassed and followed, for example. Well do you mean never followed or harassed? Are you referring to lewd cat calling or guys trying to approach/talk to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:29 AM
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No, Women don't experience instantaneous lust very much at all. They are turned on by the way men make them feel. Most prominently they are more aroused when a man wields power, be it height, confidence, muscles, courage etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 06:28 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6zpufp/comment/dmxnfbc Yes the user is totally responding to challenges by blocking users and arguing in good faith......please...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:21 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6zpufp/comment/dmxnfbc Yes the user is totally responding to challenges by blocking users and arguing in good faith......please...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 05:21 AM
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Are you saying my rate this woman posts were good? I'll do more then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:33 AM
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Why are you so desperate Attacking me now? purposely ignored that I literally just said it wasn't satire and that I meant everything? So if what you say is true to yourself why would you make a throwaway account? Do you expect me to believe you? When you make a ridiculous name like the "Taylor Swift" test?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:23 AM
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I've never seen any posts like this when men post about how unworthy women are. So your admitting you made this just to prove a point and not to actually be serious about anything ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:18 AM
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I'm not upset, I just don't see the point in pretending. It's obvious. Alright, your the one who made the throwaway account for the post, it's obvious ! Don't pretend. But seriously, your just personal attacking me at this point. Your just mindlessly blaming me of something with no evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 02:06 AM
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Because they were taken down.......
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:19 AM
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I have reported flipped versions made by incels and MGtOWs tons of times and they got removed. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:04 AM
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The user was not responding to comments and commonly just commented "blocked". Even a BPer agrees with me here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6zpufp/comment/dmxfc7w
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 01:03 AM
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who holds intentionally anti male sentiments like hers genuinely and someone who is just gender flipping TRP to troll? Like how are you saying you determine the diff between the two? They wouldn't view porn as some positive source to compete with, and they would phrase it with women being in a more positive life. They wouldn't paint this as women are powerless to get the man they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:28 AM
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Until then, this post, while controversial, isn't any different than the daily posts about women. Your not allowed to post CMV's your not open to changing your view on view or aren't arguing in good faith in. /u/hyperrreal has removed several incel posts that make bad-faith posts about women just like this post does when i have reported them. In fact i actually reported a post similar to this one (by a BPer) which was removed. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6z0a3q/dead_bedroo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/17 12:10 AM
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I wouldn't call it arousal, but what i have seen, for men who are extraordinarily tall, like 6'4"+ or 6'5"+, and women who aren't tall themselves, there is definitely an attention sphere or charm the tall man instantly attracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:51 PM
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That post does seem a little low effort to me, but I do not see how it is any saying "woe is me" or breaking any rules in particular. Do you truly believe the OP of that post is arguing things like "women use the Taylor Swift test" or that "women's souls would be crushed if they compete at all" in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:49 PM
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Are you asking us to ban all accounts with little to no karma from submitting new posts? Or are asking to remove a specific post b/c you think it's against the rules? To monitor new account posts more carefully and to not allow any obvious not in good faith posts from new accounts like this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:43 PM
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What you're feeling about a post with the tables turned is how women feel in PPD on a daily basis. This has nothing to do with how I feel, the post is not in good faith at all. There is no problem with posts that say for instance, male sexuality is at heart cruel or immoral and goes on to say why. But this post isn't even using things from reality. Things like "the Taylor Swift" test are just a mindless reversal of the brad pitt test, the user doesn't actually believe thats a valid use.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:42 PM
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It doesn't make sense to remove a 12 hour old thread with almost 400 comments unless the thread is spiraling out of control. Correct but i feel this is going to set a bad precedent and severely decrease post quality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 11:40 PM
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So a new account that makes an obvious flip of the Brad Pitt test jsut to prove a point is arguing in good faith? /u/hyperrreal can we have some more mod opinions on this ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:55 PM
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Also, with porn and everything else there's no way any woman could compete. And TRYING to compete just ruins a woman's spirit and sense of worth. It isn't worth it. Do you believe that user is arguing in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:22 PM
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Also, with porn and everything else there's no way any woman could compete. And TRYING to compete just ruins a woman's spirit and sense of worth. It isn't worth it. So thats in good faith to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:21 PM
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no worse than the average RP post about marriage/relationships not being worth it for men which we leave up all the time Do you truly believe the user is arguing in good faith? They they are not at all trolling? How many Bpers or the like express these sentiments?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:17 PM
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"women are just shit" posts get to stay Can you find some examples of such that were allowed to stay up? I report these by incels and MGTOWs regularly and they get removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 10:15 PM
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But that post is not a good faith post. No BPer, even the more extreme ones truly believes women have almost no good options for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:49 PM
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Women are shit posting isn't allowed, incels who make comments like that are banned. I report them myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:48 PM
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Red pullers don't make posts like that on PPD, incels and MGTOWs do. Also your not understanding what woe is me is. Negativity is fine in PPD. This isn't s safe space. By it's a debate sub. We can't have women moaning about abortion jsut for the sake of moaning,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 09:46 PM
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The majority of throwaway accounts make posts for the purposes of not arguing in good faith or woe is me. From what I have seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:58 PM
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Most of those options will be with men who aren't worth a damn. What's your metric for not worth a damn? According to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:49 PM
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This is a woe is me post from a brand new user, why is this being allowed to stay up?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/17 08:48 PM
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oppressive social structures Well what's an example of an "oppressive" social structure that isn't a law? for women specifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 10:34 PM
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the idea that a group being oppressed makes them weaker is Again it doesn't make them weaker. The idea that adverse circumstances like working in an environment unfamiliar to you or getting too drunk at a frat party and being taken advantage of is oppression indicates such an individual is weak. Think about it this way, none of the strong people, like slaves who were actually legally oppressed, gave into the idea that social structures are insurmountable or unstoppable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 04:24 PM
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Keep believing a strawman is logical. It's hilarious to me, your trying to make a logical fallacy into a truth. By exaggerating, misrepresenting, or just completely fabricating someone's argument, it's much easier to present your own position as being reasonable, but this kind of dishonesty serves to undermine honest rational debate. https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman Seriously, this is good comedy material. Keep it going.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:39 PM
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I think a woman in an IT field is in a more difficult siutation than an FBI agent. The agent is there completely by choice - if he doesn't want the stress or the danger, he can just quit or better yet - never even start on the job. The woman, on the other hand, might be stuck in the IT field because she has no other marketable skills. If there was an olympics for mental gymnastics this statement would win you a couple gold medals. There is absolutely nothing preventing a woman from leaving her I…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 04:04 AM
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They're not doing it for survival, because if survival was their main concern, they would find other jobs. By this logic any police officer or soldier would have no fear or sadness about dying. Unless you have some source to back this up point is mute. Your dodging the question. Are you viewing a woman trying to fee at home with some IT guys to an FBI field officer gaining intel on a deadly Colombian drug gang as one in the same ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 02:49 AM
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only if they're actually in the frat No, guys that don't belong to the said frat do hookup at other frats. Happens all the time. If it didn't or there was some rule about that the frat would be extremely unpopular. Im guessing your talking about open parties though and not exchanges. so silly that it's like 8 girls for 1 guy and no group has that kind of ratio so its basically a girls only party in anything but name You must not be from the US or never been to one. It never ever gets that high. …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/17 12:02 AM
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They are a good mechanism for keeping women safer (vetting of creepo's or less popular guys), and making it more likely for men to hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:55 PM
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with a tiny sample size The sample size isn't the issue here, in mine or yours. I didn't even mention the word sample size. The pay for software engineers has gone up since the 1970's for women and men because programming had a major boom in demand, sales, and profitability. The presence of more men didn't cause the increase in pay, the market did. That's what I am trying to show.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 11:54 PM
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The same thing happened when women in large numbers became designers (wages fell 34 percentage points), housekeepers (wages fell 21 percentage points) and biologists (wages fell 18 percentage points). The reverse was true when a job attracted more men. Computer programming, for instance, used to be a relatively menial role done by women. But when male programmers began to outnumber female ones, the job began paying more and gained prestige. That study cannot give an accurate idea of it's premise…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 10:13 PM
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putting up with it and not saying or doing anything that would inconvenience men That's the definition of submission. Literally according to your logic no one is weak or strong, there is no difference between anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:34 PM
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Maybe the more pressing issue is finding ways to lessen the instances of harassment, You can't lessen or improve something you believe is inherent. Feminists have no definition or any sort of marker as to when one would consider women as free of oppression. It's like someone trying to lose weight with no idea what a healthy weight is. word losing meaning due to being used to describe instances that encompass it. Outside of far left feminism or media it's never used to describe such things. Your …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 09:32 PM
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Look, workplace harassment does indeed happen but it doesn't happen at all close to enough to show why there is such a drastic difference between women and men in computer science degree programs let alone actual engineering jobs. I wasn't saying talking about male shit is harassment, but that's a common factor cited as a hostile working environment in articles about this. My point is that if the threshold of oppression is any woman of any amount experiencing harassment sexually or assault then …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:27 PM
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Are women fighting an uphill battle at tech companies? That implies the vast majority of women,
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:22 PM
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so your saying people wanting to change certain conditions as they have a higher chance of survival is the exact same as a woman moaning about guys in a tech company only talking about mine craft? Your the first person I have ever seen literally argue a straw man as some form of logic. Insanity to a new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:21 PM
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Fighting injustice means your work through the bullshit and pave a pathway and set examples for other women. Hillary Clinton didn't choose not to run for president because there haven't been any female presidents did she ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 08:19 PM
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Women as a collective group? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:15 PM
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First of all are you aware huff post is an extraordinarily far left source? I mean they once published an article titled "Muslims and their nations are the real feminists". Bias to that degree can't be used in realistic debate. Second, aside from bias, There has been a profound disconnect between the speed at which women have been asked to take full-time roles in the workplace and the rate at which we’ve adapted laws and social programs to support this drastic change in the lives of women,” writ…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:11 PM
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Because the women in question aren't doing anything to solve the problem. They are claiming they can't work in male majority spaces or in ways they aren't used to. Did you read my part form the Harvard business review ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:35 PM
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Ah I see the confusion. Although I didn't state this specifically, the distinction is more about your perspective and approach to circumstances. Like mentioned, women who refuse to work in a team with mostly men or work in longer working schedules aren't strong because they are taking the easy way out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:43 PM
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You should really understand what a straw man is as your making yourself look foolish. Women in a tech company have absolutely no risk of being killed whatsoever on the job. The only reason they need an environment tailored to them is out of preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:25 PM
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Oppressed isn't a synonym for weak. Please read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:22 PM
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It's not about weakness it's specifically a or a misuse of the term oppression. Oppression is being used to define any sort of obstacle a woman has to adapt to, not cruel or u just treatment. Connor never claimed he was oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:21 PM
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Substituting a person’s actual position or argument with a distorted, exaggerated, or misrepresented version of the position of the argument. https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/169/Strawman-Fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:18 PM
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and when that sentiment is carried by dozens of co-workers who want her gone explicitly because she's a woman, But this doesn't happen sans a few small instances. There is no proof or evidence that men in the tech industry are overwhelmingly pushing women out for telling them they are bad because they are women. Talking about video games with your IT bros isn't telling women they are bad. Women catch a lot of shit online from a shitload of different sources, which is cruel and unjust. Oppression…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:04 PM
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Oooooh that straw man is dandy! Slaves don't exist in the modern world and women certainly aren't slaves.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 02:54 PM
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Harassing or demeaning behavior in the workplace. These can exist for all people, nothing specific to women alone. Not oppression. Double standards regarding sexual activity. Wow yea some guys on the internet use the word slut and stud. Again this is not oppression. There is nothing unjust being done to women. Women are free to have sex when they want, no one is stopping them. The legislative assault on the right to abortion and affordable birth control. That's probably the only thing that could…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:23 AM
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No, what you're saying is equivalent to "murder victims aren't strong because they didn't, or possibly couldn't, stop their murder." Gotta love that strawman when you don't have a good argument right! It doesn't say that at all. It says that women who are raped aren't to blame for being raped. It says no combination of choices could have prevented the rape. Women can't control rapists, but they can control themselves. You seem to be in denial that the vast majority of rape or sexual assault case…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 07:06 AM
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When medicine started, doctors were all men, and they acted like patronizing jerks to everyone. Now that doctors are like half women, medical schools emphasize bedside manners and patient advocacy. Thats a slippery slope fallacy. You have to show some proof or connection that medicine developed bed side manners due to having more women in the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:59 AM
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You claimed they built the entire field, that's a flat out fantasy. Google -> founded by two men Unix operating system -> made by men Windows -> made by a man Apple -> founded by two men Python -> created by a man Java -> created by a man C++ created by a man Facebook -> founded by men Sure women have contributed to computer science but the vast majority of it is built by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:39 AM
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However, the idea that sexist oppression doesn't exist in America just because women have it worse in the Middle East is pretty silly. What actions is the government or society taking to oppress women as a whole in the USA? would you say that oppressed women in the Middle East aren't strong? They are very strong, but the key here is they face the real definition of oppression, not oppression redefined to mean any obstacle or challenge that comes up in life. For example, even though some women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:36 AM
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I'm talking about the doctors, not the patients. A doctor developing a bedside manner is only and always for a patients benefit. It is an evolution for the patient, the customer. It has nothing do with the doctor. Medicine evolved, like I said for medicine, not for doctors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:31 AM
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Women as a whole are capable and strong but have been historically oppressed and subjugated. I don't know what's contradictory about that. Or are you saying every people who have -for example, been reduced to slavery in the past were so because they were weak? Whether or not someone was oppressed historically has absolutely nothing to do with the present day. It's insane to think Hillary Clinton is oppressed because some woman was in the 1700's. You must have not read the title of the post, at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 06:03 AM
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The workplace and the job obviously evolve to fit the workers. That's true for IT guys or for doctors. Case in point: doctors used to be patronizing jerks. Now medical schools are all over bedside manners and patient advocacy. The way doctors work with interns and nurses has evolved too. You just contradicted yourself. Patients aren't the workers, they are the customers..... Men can take advantage of women sexually. Women can take advantage of men sexually too. That doesn't make a person weak Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:58 AM
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Machismo at redoubled intensity sounds quite hostile. Oh yea, guys talking about lifting and video games is so hostile. Jesus Christ. What about longer working schedules and tougher travel schedules?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:57 AM
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What you quoted says that women have no control over the men That's precisely it. This comes from a blog called girls go strong yet they are insinuating women have no power to fight back or stop sexual assaults or rapes. This is not strong. You don't see Antifa saying we have no power to fight back against Nazi's now do you (example of other leftist group) First of all the vast majority of rapes or sexual assaults are not of a violent nature. Most of what we here about is drunk sex taken too far…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:53 AM
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And of course you skip over the part where they reveal the definition of "hostile" has nothing active about it. The answer comes in five parts. First and foremost, the hostility of the workplace culture drives them out. If machismo is on the run in most U.S. corporate settings, then this is its Alamo—a last holdout of redoubled intensity. Second is the dispiriting sense of isolation that comes when a woman is the only female on her team or at her rank—a problem exacerbated for others when she in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 05:24 AM
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I'm not arguing about modern women. But then your straw manning here. Oppression in reddit or gender issues is construed to mean any challenges someone faces. A better example for my argument would be Hillary Clinton blaming Bernie Sanders for contributing to her loss and damaging her rep vs just accepting him as a valid opponent.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:45 AM
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strength and oppression are mutually exclusive for women but not other groups? Again, I do not know other groups and I am not making a post about them. the point is the way oppression is defined for women in modern America is the same way we define obstacles in life. There isn't any real oppression of women going on. People are treating any difficulty in life as oppression. Refer to the Harvard business article that states women's distress of tougher work schedules and travel schedules. That's a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:40 AM
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Yes, obviously they were. If there were only men and it was men working together, who do you think they adapted to? They adapted to the needs of patients, whom are both men and women. Doctors develop cures that work for patients, not doctors. Someone needing an aneurysm clipped needs it in whatever suits people that have aneurysms. I agree that you're an asshole Gotta love those personal attacks! refuses to consider what I'm saying and instead asks me to agree to outrageous statements. You were …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:36 AM
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It takes more strength to fight an uphill battle than it does to be considered the "standard" and just be set for life. Women aren't fighting any uphill battle in tech companies, or when they are out drinking at frat parties. Women in the middle east definitely are fighting an uphill battle.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:34 AM
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'not be actively hostile' are the same. Tech companies aren't actively hostile toward women. Your doing leaps and jumps to avoid tackling my main point. Insisting you can't work in some other work mode or rhythm and need other women around to support you is not strong. Men simply existing and working isn't hostile to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 04:33 AM
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So does that change get your view , in the case if real opression not fake one, women can be strong and opressed ? Yes, more or less. All of the things viewed as oppression in America or on college campuses are really just obstacles, but actual oppressive governments like in the middle east are real oppression for women, that they cannot reasonably fight back or be strong against (without risking death). Basically in this case, I was thinking the very idea that college girls who have the leisure…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:38 AM
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So how come an individual can not be strong and oppressed at the same time? Look in the paragraph i linked. Being strong means you have some degree of control over your challenges and struggles and have some agency to determine outcome. Above they are literally saying women have no role or no responsibility for their vagina.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:33 AM
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No, you can say "I am a woman and I get less respect than a man in my position but I'm going to push through." You're still oppressed but you fight. But that's not whats happening. In the harvard article I linked everyone believes companies need to bend over backwards to cater to a woman's individual needs, a special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:27 AM
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Gotta love the straw man! Did you see the "women" part in the title?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:25 AM
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Strong doesn't = "willing and able to deal with a bunch of unfair bullshit." It most certainly does. What on earth do you think strong means? You have the strength or capability to deal with challenges and bullshit. You think women in the military talk about whats fair and unfair?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:25 AM
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It illustrates pretty clearly that, although American slaves were systematically oppressed (and if you wish to argue that chattel slaves were not systematically oppressed, then please let me know so I can nope out of this conversation), they still found the strength to form families and create rituals and have dignity. I mean thats a very, very relative idea of strength. During the time of slavery you have very little control over your life. I mean you basically don't have any human basic rights…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:23 AM
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Well, men already have their special environment where there are a lot of men and where they have a man's preferred way of working. So women don't need more special treatment than what men already get. But men aren't getting a special treatment. No one created software engineering or programming for men, it just was created. Just like medicine before women started becoming doctors wasn't created for men. Nowadays tech companies are specifically changing for women specific needs. Well yeah, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 03:18 AM
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People who are oppressed or accept their actions as up to those of someone else aren't strong or don't possess strength. You get to choose one identity or two opposites.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:51 AM
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what do you mean? not following sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:50 AM
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As women, we’re hardwired to believe that we are responsible for how others respond to our bodies, even with violence. We think carefully about how we present ourselves so as to not be “distracting” or attract “the wrong kind of attention.” Similarly, it took me years to feel solid in my own understanding that I didn’t cause my own attack, and that no outfit or perfect combination of choices prevents assault. But I now know firmly that the responsibility of this crime lies solely on the rapist. …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:50 AM
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How can a person or group of people be thought of as strong if they never faced challenges and obstacles? I don't think they can. Did you miss the part "at the same time"? A woman is strong if they overcomes the unfamiliar way of working in tech and working with a group of mostly men. If she leaves tech because of this she isn't strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:48 AM
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Who is saying this? Most people who support gender equality in regards to business or sexual assault, for starters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:46 AM
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Did you miss the part "at the same time"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/17 12:45 AM
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What if someone tried so much but is still in a dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:52 AM
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Are you drunk?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:51 AM
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A real man fucks his girl in the pussy. Are you like over 60 years old or something? Do you honestly believe oral sex is only for gay men?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 07:50 AM
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I wouldn't want to do balls-deep deep throat or throat sex, why the hell would anybody want that? Do you not derive any pleasure from your dick fully inside a girl's mouth?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/17 05:44 AM
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I mean I've had lots of sex with multiple partners. So like N-count of 15-20+ with some ONS or hookups from parties clubs? That's what I am referring to by experienced, like by modern college age definition. Most people, women or men have had multiple partners
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:48 PM
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By experienced you mean what exactly? Also your a woman right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 11:36 PM
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I wanna say that most people don't partake in that because it'll make them vomit. But this relates exactly to my point. If your not experienced it's going to be much harder to do the good stuff like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 10:11 PM
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Overt narcissists do not often make good leaders (think Trump). But all leaders need to value themselves as in some way superior to others otherwise they wouldn't think of themselves as a leader to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 06:02 PM
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It's NOT easy for her to keep one, and to learn how to keep one, and do it well. But isn't this only true if the man is particularly high value? Like why would it be good if a woman simply kept like an average joe around?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:40 PM
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And that doesn't really prove anything, there's probably more narcissists by a factor of ten who don't become leaders for all we know. Or they could become leaders in smaller unknown groups. But that logic is like feminists saying there are 90% of rape cases we just don't know about. That's what I was trying to say - being a narcissist doesn't mean you are also a good leader or socially dominant. A social outcast can be a narcissist. Well what do you classify as a social outcast necessarily? I m…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 04:31 PM
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Your thinking under a just world fallacy. Narcissism doesn't imply being an asshole, it just involves being obsessed with oneself. If you need any proof this trait is well valued as a leader look at the White House.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/17 02:33 PM
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They already do get vaginas sewed up - frequently, directly after having a baby It seems you don't know anything about women since you don't even know what a hysterectomy is. I mean do you seriously think women get their vaginas sewed up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 04:41 PM
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So to clarify, if three gorgeous blonde girls showed up at your door one day and wanted to give you a triple blowjob plus a 4 some you would decline ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 06:13 AM
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Aggressiveness and protectiveness can easily get you killed when you needlessly bite off more than you can chew out of a misguided sense of pride or bravado. What kind of scenario could this actually play out in modern society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 05:57 AM
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you won't get all het up about someone suggesting men get their balls chopped Alright, women should all get their vagina's sewed up to prevent unwanted pregnancy. You didn't want a safe space right?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/17 05:55 AM
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Am tired of men talking about abortion and female contraception as though it's nothing Perhaps you should consider some feminists subs?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 04:59 PM
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No because even the vast majority of religious people on earth, like Muslim men have or require a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 03:56 PM
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I mean we can make those sort of assumptions about anything. We could say most ISIS members are good people that just do it because the US bombarded Iraq, and only a small percentage of them are actually the bad guys. It's really a logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 03:55 PM
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I never denied abortions exist Your claiming many women are opposed to them, which there is no evidence for. I don't think you know what a strawman even is.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/17 05:34 AM
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I prefer funny trolls to obvious ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:14 PM
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[In 2011, an estimated 1.1 million abortions were performed] (https://www.plannedparenthood.org/uploads/filer_public/e9/f0/e9f06fb0-e665-4cd3-810f-019d89d1daee/pp_abortion_after_the_first_trimester.pdf) Our poll found that by a margin of 69-to-27 percent, American voters approve of the constitutional right to abortion established by the Supreme Court in Roe v. Wade. This result is similar to many polls over the years that have found Americans approving Roe by margins of 2-to-1 or greater. You se…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 10:14 PM
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It's an inequality that single mothers bear most of the burden of accidental pregnancy, typically devoting everything they have and all their time to the child. Again they do not have to do this. Many women get abortions in the case of accidental pregnancy. Stop being solipsistic about your views here. The vast majority of all college age and liberal women support and advocate for abortion access. Your arguing in a scenario which is in total denial of the existence and usage of abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:46 PM
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If he had a controlled response, it would have been weird and confusing as to why he had so little emotion. It doesn't mean no emotion, it just means in the grand scheme of things how will he handle the situation. I mean women won't be turned on by men that just lose their job and never really bother to find work or improve the situation after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 08:12 PM
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Some of us don't want to purposefully bleed out a clump of cells which will otherwise become our baby and our child. We know if we did it we would be sad and imagine them for the rest of our lives. Sure but this doesn't mean it isn't an option. It just means you choose not to do it electively. This doesn't take away the availability of it. The whole idea is the most absurd selfish notion I have read in the whole arena of the red pill. Sure it's selfish, but the whole point is it's an inequality …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:14 PM
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See the problem with debates like these are, any action taken by a man can be perceived in different ways by women. For example, a man could open up about his feelings, about some topic, and he could have done it in a manner where the woman perceived it as a sign of strength or courage, and became more attracted to him as a result. Such as him speaking about his feelings in a way that makes him seem like he has control over them or something. Mean while another man could open up in such a way th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:51 PM
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1) women prefer vicious men over virtuous men 2) achieving excellence, or, in Red Pill terms "becoming alpha", consists in cultivating a “reality distortion field”, “amused mastery”, a “shit eating grin”, the “inner Dark Triad”, and other clear vices. The language of vice is being used deliberately. What would being virtuous mean in a modern society though? It's hard to say cause I am not sure what your thinking of.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:46 PM
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It isn't ever an option to many women. How is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:23 PM
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Focus most on what gains respect from people rather than morality. Gaining respect and admiration from women is highly correlated with getting laid, where morality is kind of the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:29 PM
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Are you smoking something? Castration isn't a medical procedure. Do you hate men ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:28 PM
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Are you talking about difficulty of obtaining the procedure? Yes in obtaining it. The exact reason I brought up heart transplant is it's one of the many medical procedures that have a lot of roadblocks, but are still considered a life saving option for thousands of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 06:16 AM
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not difficulty of procedure. Well the majority of the people arguing with me here are claiming due to the immense difficulty some women face in getting an abortion, we shouldn't consider it an option women have, and women don't inherently have more options for erasing their child responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 05:30 AM
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they flipped to full Arizona State frat-party whores in a matter of days exemplifying AWALT. The first thing they started doing was fucking the soldiers, but not just taking a boyfriend and hoping for marriage. No, THEY MADE THE ROUNDS. I am not sure I trust this field report....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:53 AM
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Society is not amoral or moral, but there is no strict requirement of morality for success in society. You can be full of tattoos, become a rap star, and bang tons of chicks without even considering morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:47 AM
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Are you a troll?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:41 AM
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But let's not pretend that many states aren't doing everything they can to make it as close to illegal/impossible as they can. This is correct. However, what was originally being argued is that, it's incorrect to say woman have an option to end responsibility to their child via abortion, which is ridiculous. Abortion is widely available to the vast majority of women. There is no way you can say men and women have equal avenues for removing responsibility from children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:40 AM
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heart transplants are not related to abortions. They're both difficult to perform medical procedures. Not that different really. Do you really believe that something shouldn't be considered a viable option for women if only a small portion of them have difficulty getting it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:38 AM
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Dread game is something men do to women. We seriously need to start removing comments which have no connection to TBP or TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:16 AM
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It's not a choice if they don't believe in it or if pregnancy hormones change their minds. A belief is a choice. No one is forced to believe anything they don't want to believe. Going to need a source to back up this claim about pregnancy hormone having some sort of mind control mechanism on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:14 AM
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A man could have his balls surgically removed. Are you being sarcastic? Or do you not know that a vasectomy just cutes the sperm tubes to the testicles, not the testicles themselves? Or are you just making some sort of man-hating argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 04:12 AM
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Look, lots of medical procedures have big hurtles to overcome. Kidney transplants, getting chemotherapy, or getting other expensive or not commonly offered treatments. This doesn't mean any of these treatments aren't viewed as an unrealistic option for people. I think this whole thing spiraled out of control because the original commentor, Whiskers NT was alleging that abortion can't be viewed as an option for women because some women have a difficult time getting it. This isn't a reasonable ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:41 AM
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Well yes, exactly. But the whole idea here is that women whom responded positively to dress game won't be on the adulterey sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:36 AM
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Reported for circle jerking
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:06 AM
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My mom had one when I was 5, she says it wasn't a big deal. What kind of horror fantasy are you watching tonight ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 02:05 AM
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They are both total severances from ones offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:47 AM
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Do you not believe abortions exist ?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:44 AM
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28 clinics in Texas is absolutely pathetic, but if we're taking about a standard of "if not impossible", that's going to be subject to s much higher bar than a long drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:33 AM
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At this point your just being emotional and not using any logic. Unless you can prove the majority of women cannot drive 70-80 miles for a medical procedure your opinions are incorrect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 01:08 AM
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Something does not need to be as close as Starbucks to be accessible. People drive 30-50 miles for things they need all the time. Just last week I drove 80 miles to San Diego to see a special doctor at UCSD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:51 AM
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Your speaking as if your own opinions are facts. Your are mistaken. The only people here in charge of moderating content are the mods. Here's one: don't tell people how to communicate or debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:39 AM
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i'm not acting like a mod; Yes you are your telling users how to communicate, and post on this sub. without looking totally clueless That's your opinion, not a fact. Your opinions don't dictate what other people think. This is why I said you should get over yourself. http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-abortion-clinics-are-in-america-each-state-2017-2 Plenty of abortion clinics in most of the states.....
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:19 AM
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http://www.businessinsider.com/how-many-abortion-clinics-are-in-america-each-state-2017-2 There doesn't appear to be any states with no clinics, the one with just 1 clinic seem to have a far lower population than others. Texas has 28 clinics.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:17 AM
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you should make sure you're well-informed before making assertions like that. Ill make whatever kind of assertions I want thanks. Your not a mod, stop acting like one, seriously. Im aware that aboriton is difficult to get in conservative states, but it's not impossible. It's very hard to get a lot of other medical procedures as well, but people still get them if they are legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:10 AM
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Not true, I know several girls from my college that used it to meet hot black guys for a ONS.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:06 AM
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Early 30s male, small city in the US Interesting, how old are the women you are meeting on average? Some other comments here from guys in early twenties had almost no success even with the paid option.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:05 AM
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So, first of all, look at the adultery sub, it seems to be female oriented with women posting about their struggles with their husbands cheating on them. Like this comment. A place like this is going to have a very large degree of confirmation bias or bias all over it, since your asking women their perspective in a place where women go to talk about why their unsatisfied with their SO's. It would be like trying to get advice on how to be more aggressive in bed from a sub for female sexual assaul…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/17 12:02 AM
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absolutely 0 consequence. Your making the assumption men feel no emotional remorse or sorrow after having a financial abortion. A logical fallacy at it's finest. which isn't an easy decision to make Neither is having a financial abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:56 PM
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Not all women will have an abortion. And your point is? They have the option to have it. And not all women who want to have an abortion can afford to travel to a different state to get one. Abortion is legal in all 50 states. 99.999% of people have enough for a tank of gas or two to travel far distances.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:53 PM
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More women will be demanding early marriage from their boyfriends too. So antimarriage redpillers gonna beware what they wish for. That makes no sense. Women already have abortion as an option. They have no reason to secure commitment before sex unless they want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:41 PM
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Every man who has sex knows that any time he ejaculates in a vagina, pregnancy may occur even if contraceptive measures are taken. Every time a man ejaculates his sperm in or near the vagina, or has unprotected sex, he is assuming the risk that a baby may be the result. This is a strawman. The argument for financial abortion has nothing to do with a form of control if an unexpected pregnancy takes place. It's a broader idea men should have some form of relinquishing responsibility for children l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 11:40 PM
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OP is just a rad feminist that smokes weed a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 04:32 PM
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This whole idea of "getting" something from your friends is foreign to me in the first place. You must have pretty mean friends if they never give you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:34 AM
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This post shouldn't be flaired science as it doesn't link to a scientific article or study
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:31 AM
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1 in 1,000 women are that tall. Are you claiming that's actually common?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 12:29 AM
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That's not at all what I said. Why do you assume I base my interest of women on sex? I even specifically said "anyone I enjoyed being with". Whether or not you would want to have sex with someone depends on whether or not you are sexually attracted to them. Now, that doesnt mean I'll base my life around sex, or that I'll base my interaction with her on getting in her pants or anything. I really don't get it. The ultimate destination of any male and female relationship is sex. Do you not view it …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 09:00 PM
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I am indeed a virgin, never found anyone I enjoyed being with enough to go that far. So you have never found a woman that you find attractive enough to have sex with? That seems impossible unless you live in a monastery. I do enjoy sex, But how would you even know you enjoy it if you never tried it? Your view seems to reflect that you don't enjoy sex enough to risk rejection in order to get it, which makes more sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:15 PM
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No you said before its not worth the effort. Declaring something is not worth the effort is your own choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 08:12 PM
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It's actually against the rules to make a CMV post and not be open to other views.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:46 PM
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If you don't mind coming across as someone who harasses and imposes themselves on people But see that's the problem. Any sort of unwanted interaction is classified as harassment by feminists. No woman in real life actually thinks this way. For example, in college when I was in my frat I always used to walk into a Cafe near campus and start chatting with girls or giving them compliments and seeing where it goes. If they seemed like they were too busy I would just leave and find a different girl. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:45 PM
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I think to really engage with your view, some more information is needed. Are you a virgin? If you aren't, do you not enjoy actual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 06:35 PM
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http://reference.medscape.com/calculator/height-age-percentile-girls If you put in age as 18 and height as 72 inches it gives them a Z score of 3.1 and the 99.99% percentile. So basically less than 0.01%.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:20 PM
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The whole point of online dating is it makes approaching people you wouldn't approach in real life much easier and makes it easier to find people more likely to accept your approaches and match with you. Therefore it's impossible for online dating to at all be related to real life as it's using artificial environments which we don't encounter in the real world. It's like saying people who play call of duty online would want to join the military in real life. Second, you may be confusing approach…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:17 PM
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/u/hyperrreal This is off topic and has nothing to do with PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:52 PM
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I haven't mentioned any nerd opinions, just that there is no proof of anything feminism claims about the tech industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:47 PM
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So? An approach is an approach Are you a man? Do you believe that pushing a few buttons on your phone takes he same amount of motivation and courage to go up to a gorgeous woman in real life and hit on her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:41 PM
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There's no proof women are being excluded at all, women just aren't interested in nerd spaces. Why are you treating feminists opinions as fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:38 PM
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How can one 100% know if a reaction is wanted or unwanted? And why is it bad for unwanted conversations to occur? I mean we aren't talking about royalty here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:28 PM
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STEM is not equal to programming. Feminists never talk about how nurses or dental hygienists face sexism. Also there is no proof of any hiring sexism in software engineering. The vast majority of candidate pools for top software engineering positions are 95% male to begin with. Something being difficult and deterring women doesn't make it sexist.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:27 PM
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Do u not read that I just listed what feminists are doing toward nerds? Nerds aren't anti-woman. They bend over backwards the moment a girl asks for help with anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 04:13 PM
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Nobody ever said there was anything wrong with being confident, charismatic, and funny. Just don't be misogynistic, manipulative, and emotionally abusive. Anything can be considered misogynistic in different cases, so it's not possible to be not misogynistic. Like would approaching women in cafes or the grocery store count as misogyny ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:40 PM
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Feminists are anti nerd? Weird. High degree of antagonism toward Silicon Valley , like the Ellen Pao case and Reddit, gamers gate, an over fixation about male nerd spaces and how women are portrayed in video games. Definitely anti-nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:37 PM
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How does your friend compare with the girls in the photo I linked looks wise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:33 PM
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How does your friend compare with the girls in the photo I linked looks wise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:33 PM
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How does your friend compare with the girls in the photo I linked looks wise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:33 PM
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How does your friend compare with the girls in the photo I linked looks wise ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:33 PM
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So you admit your voluntarily choosing to be an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:30 PM
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Did u never do anything or go out in college? • "You watch movies, and girls are throwing themselves at you. It's like that, but not to that extent." So it's not like "He Got Game." Except it basically is. • Shipman gets more than 60 female friend requests a day on Facebook. "If they fit the part, I would send them a message and see where that goes." • He would keep 5-to-10 girls on the hook at time and pass off the others to teammates. http://deadspin.com/5518238/ex-florida-gator-would-like-you…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:28 PM
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that tall men have a relative advantage over tall women. (Tall women aren't necessarily unattractive, but they don't get usually a bonus for being tall). Nope. Height is distributed sexual dimorphically. There are less than 1% of women that on average will be so tall they will be near or taller than most men. 5.7" for a woman is already in the 95%, and thats below average for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:56 AM
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Reddit isn't at all limiting its demographics or member criteria. It therefore must be 50/50 M/F and 60% white Well that's probably true. Are you triggered?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:54 AM
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As much proof as this assertion has: That's not an assertion, thats an actual fact. OkCupid isn't at all limiting its demographics or member criteria. There is nothing from OkCupid to indicate its skewing towards a certain type of man or woman. Don't blame others for your own poor arguments. The comment quality here is bad enough as it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:51 AM
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They are also dressed sexier than anything we'd ever wear. Well a lot of a girl's attractiveness for men is also tied to the amount of clothing she wears. Availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:35 AM
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Unconfident men will skew towards online dating Any proof to back this up?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:33 AM
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There is no reason to believe the population of men using OkCupid is somehow significantly different than the general population of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:11 AM
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Women in general don't approach the hottest/richest/bestest man they know either They most certainly do. Have you ever seen how girls react when a college basketball player from their school comes in the room? Or they get to meet some rockstar guy they are into? This is a bit of an ignorant comment here. can be seen as an equivalent of how a hypergamous woman would feel drawn to the better man, regardless of whether they actually act on it. But women are the passive gender here. They don't act o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:10 AM
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If you are talking about "attention" males Well I say attention since women don't overtly approach men, they just attempt to get the man's attention indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:06 AM
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When I used to go out with my less attractive friend How would you say you and your friend compare to those girls in my linked photo? Trying to get a sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:06 AM
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They approach the hottest women they know FIRST, and then if she rejects him, they move down the line of women based on attractiveness. In fact, the OKC study showed this, with most of the men messaging the top 1/3rd of women. Approaching a woman online takes 0 confidence or courage. Approaching in her in real life is not even comparable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 05:05 AM
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Females are not approaching very often at all, it is just that if they do approach, it is going to be a certain type of female and that male is usually seen as very high value to them. I was more meaning the idea that women and men both show attention toward or or put effort towards the hottest person they know at very similar rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 01:53 AM
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it makes sense to me that a guy pursuing or dating only beautiful women is in part doing it to increase his status or perceived power amongst his peers- otherwise he'd be looking for women with attractive personalities who surpass his minimum standards for physical attractiveness. Women's personalities largely aren't "attractive" to men. Women don't draw attention from men based on their personality. Your also confusing cause versus effect. Just because men perceive other men to have more status…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 01:44 AM
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Personal example is that I like smart women, but certainly not women clearly smarter than me Hmmm, I think a better way to put it is men don't like women who are over-achieving, super-active energy-like because they are smart. I dated a couple of asian girl computer science majors in college but they certainly were not alpha-females. EDIT: this girl isn't going to be considered attractive by most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 01:16 AM
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do you think that amongst themselves, men attach more power/status to a man if he has a beautiful woman? Yes definitely. That or a guy who dates lots of women. I mean just look at James Bond. In regards to the article, I'd say none of those women are very smart if they can't figure out how relationships and love require mutual consideration and effort. That's a just-world prophecy. Being smart(and mind you these are Ivy-league educated women, not just smart) is separate from being knowledgable a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 01:12 AM
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Do you think some men see beauty as power? No, they wouldn't define it this way. I'm using power as meaning 'the capacity or ability to direct or influence the behavior of others or the course of events.' That's way too general. Men would be attracted to this but only by means of sexual attractiveness. For example, a hot stripper or a celebrity like Kim Kardashian has power by your definition, but very few people consider sexualized symbols as powerful. relevant article http://www.huffingtonpost…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 12:59 AM
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I think all things equal a guy would usually prefer it Prefer what exactly? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-ali-binazir/why-do-the-smartest-women_b_382870.html
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 12:55 AM
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Men aren't attracted to power. I mean where do you see female sex symbols or modes portrayed as powerful? Any male centric movie involves girls as providing sex or some sort of status object toward the male.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 12:44 AM
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Most of the women I know (beyond a few drama queens) don't have "an expensive lifestyle" and put in a lot of work into their relationships, whether working for money or taking care of the kids or being supportive towards her husband/boyfriend's needs. What I mean is that from my experience, most of the time the contribution to a relationship (combination of monetary, emotional or housework support) are rather equal on both sides, rather than the way the redpillers make it seem like men do much m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 11:37 PM
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It's not meaningless because men and women don't behave or judge in the same ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 04:01 PM
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I mean, did you post the alpha picture as a half ways a joke or is that what you actually think of? If that's what you actually think of this kind of proves the point women can't conceptualize men well at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 05:35 AM
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The second guy just barely even qualifies as overweight, much less anyone who could be considered chubby, lol. Chubby normally isn't used as equivalent to obese. Basically the female version is when women say "I like guys with a little chub or with some softness to them".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 10:57 PM
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What mental reject thinks that chubby is a synonym for muscular? FFS, words mean things...🙄 what a man thinks of when he hears the word chubby what a woman thinks of when she hears the word chubby
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 08:55 PM
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You also have the option to leave her, does that mean she should join an Internet group that talks about how fickle and undependable men are because they aren't literally trapped in a relationship? You appear to be reading some sort of pre-conceived notion into the advice without actually looking at what it's saying. "Your turn" exactly implies a man can leave when he wants to. It's just an experience, and when your done, it's done. I don't get how fear factors into this approach. It seems far m…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:34 AM
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for a 30-something woman Your thinking of the upper class yoga-pilates marketing/HR woman from California, not what's most representative of a 30's woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:31 AM
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That doesn't mean that they are more successful because they are 30+. Well the passage of time often matures people and changes their perspective on things. Put it this way. A man's attractiveness is less emphasized on pure aesthetics than a woman's is. So by default to some degree time is harder on women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/17 06:29 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6web3w/not_a_gotcha_please_link_me_to_any_college_or/dm7zkj6/ See my comment here. Thats sometimes the case but the point is they're using drunk for the standard, not blackout drunk or incapacitation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 10:13 PM
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you can consent when drunk. you can't consent when incapacitated. (US law in most states) But there have been several cases where a guy was expelled from college for having sex with a girl who was merely drunk and not incapacitated.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 05:56 PM
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so you are saying that college courts who have no law school training should be allowed to overrule a fundamental part of the constitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 02:27 AM
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There are lots of irrational cops, pilots, doctors, you're absolutely hilarious. Hilarious. If you think pilots cops doctors and whatever other profession makes you "rational". Do you honestly not believe a doctor will be more rational with someone having a heart attack and what action needs to be taken than a normal person? Are you also denying jobs have certain tests you need to pass in order to qualify for them? have probably a much better understanding than you do of irrationality. Humans ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 12:49 AM
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You just are frightened that things are happening to your body that you weren't mentally/emotionally prepared for and you freeze up. Yea so u actually froze up, you didn't pretend. It doesn't mean anything. People aren't always perfectly rational beings. Of course it means something. It's not a random occurrence. If a woman feels she freezes up under normal situations of intimacy she has a psychological disorder or clinical fear of intimacy/sex. It's not normal at all. There's no mandate in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 10:58 PM
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That is not what The Just World Fallacy is. A just world fallacy is believing there is some set of good or bad actions, and those who follow those actions will be either rewarded or punished. Believing that there is some "should" mechanism involved in tattoo artistry and some "should not" mechanism is essentially the same. The BP here is trying to project a universal good action onto all people, but like you correctly stated, not all people care or have the same idea of good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:11 PM
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The question is why we act like it's not really rape to have sex with someone who's too drunk to consent. No, the question is if someone is sober enough to initiate, are they sober enough to consent? The OP specifically doesn't specify blackout drunk if they hook up with a chick that seems to be totally into sex, but is too drunk to even know where she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:08 PM
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You are arguing a magical utopia where everyone does what they should do for some odd reason, and everyone cares. AKA, the just world fallacy, or at least the "proper" world fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:05 PM
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he believes he was having sex with an unconscious person. This is your assumption. Your reading more details into the story than are presented. Does it somehow make it more okay that she wasn't actually unconscious? Of course it does, it means she was aware of what was going on and allowed it to happen. In all regards I think the girl just made this up and cheated with this guy. No girl "pretends" to be unconscious, they either are unconscious or resist and say no in some way.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 08:03 PM
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You of course missed the part where it says she pretended to be passed out until he was done....
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:34 PM
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What are you talking about ? Do you believe we shouldn't use juries in judging crimes ?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:10 PM
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She might not have been able to keep it a secret which is why she attributed it to the guy and pretending she was passed out. No one pretends to be passed out, that's a total farce.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 02:24 PM
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I'm really confused here. Did she actually freeze up and seem too scared to say no? Or was she actually unconscious? This sounds very fishy to pretend like she was just passed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:43 AM
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First of all it's not a stranger to the guy who had the apartment, it was the guy's neighbor/friend. But my point about the supervision here is aside from the issue of children and minors I have never heard of the idea your responsible for the people in your home. I mean by the same token a woman doesn't know when a man might assault her, how would a man know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:41 AM
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No one was raped, stop being hysterical. If it was a house I had never been before and I collapsed drunk on the sofa? I would believe I didn't make a wise decision. I never pass out drunk at places I haven't been before or people I don't know well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 07:35 AM
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but I doubt her "friend" let his "friend" have at her while she was drunk passed out on the couch. Im a little lost why is it the guy who should be responsible for the girl? he made the mistake of letting someone into his house and then not supervising his actions around his drunk unconscious friend. Again, your saying that a man should be responsible for the drunk woman. This essentially validates the view point that women need some sort of chaperone if they get too drunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 06:24 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6wrpvx/q4w_how_many_of_you_have_had_unwanted_sexual/dmajg7u/ but her friends buddy, who basically entered the apartment without permission? Doesn't say anything about coming in without permission. But your missing the point. It's unwise to collapse drunk onto an open sofa in a place you have never been in or slept in before, let alone after a night of heavy drinking. Even the girl said she had too much to drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 05:34 AM
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Here's a good example: In another post, one woman described that she, after a night of drinking, crashed the night at a guys house she had never been before and simply collapsed on the Sofa. He next morning some guy whom she didn't know tried to kiss her or take off her clothes, which she refused and she stopped. The problem here is women are putting themselves in a situation with high sexual tension and connotations but seem to think it's no big deal. You should not be staying over at a guys pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/17 04:26 AM
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Being a minor means fuck-all to the 17 year old Correct, but the BPer was somehow insisting parents don't have means to control 17 year olds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 08:01 PM
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We went back the guy's place. Did you previously know this guy as a friend? Have you been to his place before?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:56 PM
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Sounds like a pretty good description of student dorms to me You can't enter student dorms unless your a student or accompanied by one.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:54 PM
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Anyway, by the time people are 17 parents have very little ability to enforce rules. Unless you do not live in the USA being under 18 is still being a minor.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 07:51 PM
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Im curious, do you think women are asexual? Do you think they don't actually want to have sex in college?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:37 AM
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This ought to apply to the workplace as well Im curious do you often have sex in offices or corporate bathrooms? There are very little places in the workplace that would actually serve as private means for sexual activity. Also your forgetting about context. Going on a date with a guy from tinder is very different than having a work lunch with a co-worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:26 AM
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and so male sexuality is not being held in check nearly as strongly as it could. How or why would male sexuality be held in check while not female sexuality? Do you not think equality between the sexes is a goal?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 06:23 AM
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Both of those cases involved actual inebriation, not "one glass of wine" A short girl can get near-drunk or intoxicated on a big glass of wine. Your overlooking the point these cases didn't involve blackouts or any physical incapacitation...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 07:19 PM
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Charged no but expelled yes. People have been expelled before on simple alcohol intoxication. See my comment and links here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6web3w/comment/dm7zkj6
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 05:37 PM
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The result of the trial was a foregone conclusion. Doe was found to have assaulted the female student, even though the panel found it “credible” that he was so drunk that he had little or no knowledge or control. Consequently, Doe was immediately expelled. Alright, this one should fit the criteria. As well as Aaron Farrer, 21, of Lafayette, Ind., was accused of rape in September 2015 after a female student said Farrer took advantage of her drunken state. The woman showed police a text message sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 04:12 AM
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Yes I did, I guess what seems to be not clear is what do you consider a discipline toward the man in this scenario here? I mean would you not consider media shaming or social condemnation a punishment?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 02:19 AM
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Uh. That is s tv show being cancelled Yes, due to the fact the woman in question claimed she was too drunk for sexual activity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 12:51 AM
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No I don't, I am saying men do Where did you get this idea? If this was truly the case most men wouldn't be going after women for sex, and the manosphere would largely not exist. Hell TRP wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:58 PM
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Sex? I have porn! Are you being sarcastic here? I mean do you really view porn as an adequate, long term substitute for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:55 PM
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Not sure this is what the OP had in mind... Im not sure what she is getting at exactly either. There are lots of cases, of men getting some type of negative consequence if a girl says she is too drunk for some sex they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:53 PM
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It's kind of sickening to see such lack of concern for another's well-being, and I can only interpret it as a self-centered concern that the guy won't get laid if he checked in with her in that situation, and doesn't really care if she's ok and into it or not. No one here has said this. Did you even read my OP or the guide itself? I am not trying to be uncivil here but it seems you aren't actually debating what's said in the guide, your just responding to some narrative about guys thinking it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:49 PM
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Shortly after news broke on Sunday, LA Times writer Amy Kaufman spoke to a source close to Bachelor in Paradise who revealed production on the show was reportedly being shut down because of Corinne and DeMario getting physical in the pool. "On the first day of production, Sunday, DeMario and Corinne got extremely drunk, per my source," Kaufman tweeted. "Corinne came up to DeMario at the bar and kissed him. They proceeded to the pool, where they got naked. From this point forward, things turned i…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 11:41 PM
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your not even funny. At least try to be funny like the BP trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:49 PM
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Don’t rely on body language, past sexual interactions, or any other nonverbal cues. Never assume you have consent. Always be sure you have consent by asking. They are saying you must ask for consent. They claim you cannot obtain consent via non-verbal means or if it's your girlfriend and you have done X many times before. The idea of saying "always" indicates you need to do this every time you have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:47 PM
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Thank the lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:44 PM
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Oh so your a troll, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:42 PM
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Do you honestly believe that a wife waking up to her husband on top of her one time while not being into it would consider that rape and end the marriage or file a police report because of that? I honestly believe that's never truly happened. This is one the verge of not being a reasonable person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:41 PM
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Again, people seem to really not be reading the OP or title at all. The point here is not about paying attention to your partners well being, it's that one cannot do so by non-verbal cues or actions, and MUST ask for consent, if not MULTIPLE times.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:38 PM
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So let me clarify though, when you have sex, every single time you switch what your doing, like making out and going for an ass grab, or switching positions, you ALWAYS ask? No matter how many times you have had sex with that person? You NEVER rely on non-verbal cues?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:35 PM
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As expected you totally missed the part where they said you need to ask every time, if not multiple times. They are specifically saying non verbal cues do not count as consent. They aren't saying check in if your not sure, they are saying check in because you cannot be sure without asking......
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:33 PM
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Marital rape doesn't exist in the one-off fashion that college sexual assaults and rape exist. Marital rape is really just on going physical abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:29 PM
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Did you not see the part about non-verbal cues cannot be used for consent? Did you also see how any involvement of alcohol, like one glass of red wine makes it not possible to get consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:27 PM
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The case was not dropped at the college disciplinary level, it's still active. That's what you were asking about "discipline".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:26 PM
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Here is one where the case is remaining active even after video evidence causes a court case to be thrown out. USC policy states a female cannot consent to sex while "intoxicated". U.S.C.’s rules state that a person who is intoxicated is “not capable of giving valid, affirmative consent.” A student misconduct investigation involving Mr. Premjee within the university’s Title IX office remains active. If found responsible, Mr. Premjee, a junior studying business administration, could be expelled. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 06:17 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6vxui8/psa_affirmative_consent_doesnt_work_like_the/ I was referring to biggerD's post which was about newspaper and college blog interpretations of the law, not at all relating to a lawyer's or legally relevant person's interpretation of it. Moreover the post was making a claim on how "affirmative consent works", which I took to mean how it "should" be practiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 06:09 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6vxui8/psa_affirmative_consent_doesnt_work_like_the/ Nothing in this post is about the law, it's merely interpretations of the law and what it is by non-lawyers outside of any legal setting. What you posted is the equivalent of a pamphlet they would hand out in a high school sex-ed class. But someone can still learn from this and report people based on these situations and behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 06:07 AM
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Whether or not this is the law has nothing to do with this discussion. Your comment is pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 05:45 AM
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It needs to be asked if the individual engaging in sexual activity with a partner wants to know what they are doing is okay for sure. So your saying non-verbal cues or actions cannot be used to obtain consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 04:11 AM
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he is referring to his/her own opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:58 AM
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So to clarify your saying after the first consent, its on the woman to say if she want's to stop? Do you need to ask for consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 03:55 AM
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that is how the law works. lol you sound so silly, you have to prove he stole the wallet. Well yes you have to prove it but you don't have to prove he didn't give it to you as a gift. The whole thing he forgot is "reasonable doubt". There is no reasonable doubt that someone being in possession of someone else's wallet, whom they do not personally know, would have been given it as a gift.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:36 AM
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Let's say someone steals your wallet and you had to prove that you didn't hand it over to him as a gift. The standard in law is "reasonable doubt". Guess your not familiar with that. There are almost no circumstances where one would reasonably give one their entire wallet with all their ID and belongings in it for a gift. Moreover if the accused doesn't know the victim, it's not reasonable for someone to give a wallet to someone they do not know. You have to actually prove things to a jury....
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/17 01:34 AM
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Anyone who is interested in the details can always read the actual research and statistics How can they if they aren't provided by these organizations? Also rape also includes unwanted anal and oral penetration and being forced to penetrate in many jurisdictions Going to need a source on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 10:26 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by "useful" though, and I'm really not clear what point you are trying to make. If someone is studying A, which consists of B, C, D, E, or F, and they report their statistics like, 20% of women experienced A or C, and they had the percentages of all the other things, there is some intentional bias going in to want to make C seem much more likely than B, D, E or F. The vast majority of sexual assaults do not include un-consensual vaginal penetration. Giving statistics w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/17 02:02 AM
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That's isn't basic sentence structure, that's your assumption. Your acting like you wrote the statement which you most obviously did not. Your in complete denial of the existence of bias or the intention to mislead readers to think something is more common or more severe than it actually is. There isn't really a point to discussing this if your not open to this possibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 07:59 PM
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There is nothing ambiguous about the last statement If all sexual assaults aren't rape it isn't a factual statement. Your bias toward this situation is glaring immensely. We have no way of knowing if the term "sexual assault" here is referring to the act of rape that was inflicted upon the said victim, or a non-penetrative component that happened during the incident of rape, or a completely separate incident of non-penetrative sexual assault that happens with the same person who raped them. And …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 06:44 PM
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It may be misleading, but it is technically correct. Exactly, there intentionally trying to mislead to induce conclusions they have a bias toward.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:47 PM
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Female college-aged students (18-24) are 20% less likely than non-students of the same age to be a victim of rape or sexual assault. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violence So your fine with statements that say sexual assault or rape? Like you would be fine if the weatherman said today there is a 20% chance of a storm or tornado coming your way? Storms and Tornadoes are in the same category.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:37 PM
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That seems pretty simple and obvious to me. k lets look at this statement: Female college-aged students (18-24) are 20% less likely than non-students of the same age to be a victim of rape or sexual assault. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/campus-sexual-violence If I told that in the town I was born, it's 20% less likely women than men will be the victim of homicide or assault, do you believe this is an accurate or useful statement? What if I said 60% of the people in some town experience some …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:36 PM
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Yes, legally your are correct, as the department of justice states: Legal definitions of rape, the most serious form of sexual assault, and other forms of sexual assault, vary from state to state. In general, rape includes force or the threat of force, and involves vaginal, anal or oral penetration by a body part (typically a penis, finger or tongue) or an object. Some forms of rape do not necessarily include force or threats, as in the case of children and totally incapacitated adults who are d…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:33 PM
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Wait, are you saying you don't believe rape is a type of sexual assault? I believe that forced penetration (either vaginal, anal, or oral) should be considered a separate higher offense and not be under the same category as "Sexual Assault". https://www.glamour.com/story/this-singer-stopped-his-show-to-call-out-a-sexual-assault-in-the-crowd Most sexual assault cases are very minor in nature, such as being groped at a loud party.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:25 PM
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In this context, it would be like if your making out then he just grabs and squishes your ass. Or if your just laying in bed kissing and he whips out his dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:25 PM
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What I've seen them disprove is "1 in 5 will be raped", but the actual claim is "1 in 5 will become the victim of completed or attempted sexual assault" No no no, then they go on to say rape is a type of sexual assault and they use the term interchangeably bewteeen both things. In fact I made a post about this where people thought it's no big deal to use the terms in close conjunction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 02:22 PM
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it's ironic/contradictory/hypocritical if women that complain about sexual harrasment enjoy it if their partner dirty talks or if they complain about rape culture, but enjoy rough sex. It's not about sexual harassment and consent, it's more that some of them define it as about the behavior and not who does it. For example, there have been some videos I see an YouTube like "the best pickup line you can have" where a guy just walks past a girl and doesn't say anything. Or another one is when they …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:48 AM
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This amounts basically to an allegation that these kinds of portrayals constitute the incitement of violence against women. Incitement has never been protected by freedom of speech. First of all that is not incitement, that's an emotional argument thats based on a slippery slope. It's like saying people watching violent crimes committed in movies means that movie is inciting people to commit those crimes in real life. And incitement is protected under the first amendment. Madonna has said multip…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/17 05:41 AM
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/u/hyperrreal This is a leading question, I don't hate women so I don't understand how sex robots are going to make them obsolete. I'm what you guys would call a beta cuck, because I actually enjoy spending time with women and don't just see them as useless meat attached to their pussies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:14 PM
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You accuse me of pedantic grammar, but you think "can't think of anyone else" and "having someone in mind" are two entirely unrelated concepts? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. So are you denying people can be attracted to others to certain degrees? That's it's not absolute for marriage or life long intended relationships? Do you not believe someone can merely be choosing the best person for a marriage but that person might not be the only person in existence that can satisfy that re…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 02:17 AM
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"I can't think of anyone I'd rather marry" He didn't use the word marry.... I can't think of anyone else I'd rather spend my life with He literally said he to his knowledge, no one else is enjoyable enough to spend the rest of his life with. does not mean nobody else could give him a great relationship. Where is your proof or logic for this besides pedantic grammar or denial that it doesn't? Having someone in mind that you'd rather marry sounds verrrry unhealthy for a relationship. Who said abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 12:02 AM
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He never said that though. No, he did say it. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6v70fi/q4men_how_satisfied_are_you_with_your_relationship/dly3wjn/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 11:20 PM
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Not every man who is happy is a sucker. Many are just lucky to be in good relationships. Of course, but there is a difference between saying your in a great relationship versus one person is the only person that can give you a great relationship, thats where people got thrown off.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 10:06 PM
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If he were sexually unsatisfied, don't you think that would be something to change? Normally yes. But the way in which he described his relationship is very similar to what TRP describes as one-itis. Often times from similar things I have seen with friends is that guys like this normally take whatever they can get and feel happy, since they haven't experienced much else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 09:45 PM
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Ah This must be an alternate account of that guy who is afraid of sex and literally flips out if people criticize what women say.....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 08:29 AM
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But the issue is your bringing it up in terms of what you like about it and your idea she is the one. Are you sexually satisfied? Do you get to do any sex act you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/17 08:26 AM
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The average man is broke The average man isn't broke, in that same link the average household income is $68k. The per person income is meaningless because it's a simply divide in two of household income, but doesn't know where or whom the income came from.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 05:24 AM
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So the average US woman is 5'4" and 166 pounds,link which translates to 28.8 BMI, and medical obesity is at 30, so it's quite close. 5'10" and 180~ pounds is only 26 BMI, one point into the overweight category.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/17 02:38 AM
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how racist are the locals? How open minded? There are places where that black dude would get put in the hospital for going after White girls. Any big city or metropolitan area has a large liberal leaning and a favoring of alpha-minority types. Charlottesville is a blip in the big scheme of things. Don't fall into the medias trap.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 10:16 PM
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It's just that men are socially conditioned to view sex as a need. This is biologically incorrect. Men have seven times the amount of blood level testosterone as women. It's a genetic feature since prehistoric times. Men were always viewed as the more chaste and rational gender (while women were viewed as promiscuous and impulsive), Sorry but I really don't get what you mean here. In any sort of war or invasion men always took the enemies women and raped them or took them as war brides. In many …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:51 PM
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Yes average men date average women. But if were using your logic for average, this means the average women is a size 16 and is obese in the USA. This means most men do not date women who they find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:45 PM
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The average guy will sleep with 10 women over his entire life though it appears that millennials will only be sleeping with an average of 8 women over their lives as the sexual revolution is fading. If slate.com is a trustworthy source now, dailymail should also be trustworthy right? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1093011/Women-far-promiscuous-men-says-shock-new-study.html
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 09:41 PM
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Because the reason he looks cool has less to do with what he's wearing and more to do with him actually being good-looking. He is skinny as fuck with no jaw line. What in that picture suggests he is good looking? Now THAT is subjective. Your dodging questions and keeping back to the same idea you have. You aren't open to other view points, so no point in discussing this anymore. That's funny, because you both think, sound and act exactly the same. Weird, isn't it? We sound nothing alike. All the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:48 PM
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They definitely do, but I am saying the chads, the guys who get the most casual sex and do so with many women are masters of emotions, not necessarily looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 08:49 AM
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He "feels" cool because he looks cool, But why did he choose to wear that outfit? Why aren't most men dressing cool if all they have to do be cool is look cool? he looks cool because he looks good. Again you are using subjective terms. The bellmen in hotels look good too with their suits, they aren't getting laid, trust me. Though in my experience, aesthetics are the most important aspect, and being good-looking enough can offset virtually any flaw. For women it is. For men it's not. No man has …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 05:23 AM
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And how they feel is immaterial; do they look like the coolest guy in the room or not? Being cool isn't a look, it's a feeling you give off via your body language and behaviors. this dude is somewhat an example of a guy who feels like he is cool. Question, why are you trying to make this about me all of the sudden? Is it because you don't have a sound argument to make? No it's because your attributing male attractiveness 100% to aesthetics which is never how it works. No man in parties just stan…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:50 AM
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Are you the best guy at work on your team? Are you the hottest guy in the room? What you seem to not be able to understand is questions like these have no objective answer. They are subjective statements that one can feel or not feel. Someone can for example, put on a sleek pair of ray bans and feel like the coolest guy in the room, but that's based on someone's own interpretations. Question, do you ever go to parties or clubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:28 AM
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You still need to engage a woman regardless of how you look, but to be a slayer you need to be physically attractive in one way or another. Right but the point I am making is it's not a quantitatively oriented type of physical attractiveness as it is for women. A woman with a bigger ass and bigger tits is almost always going to get more attention . But with men, it's more oriented to how daring or powerful you look. For example, this guy is going to be getting a lot more girls than this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:12 AM
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Yawn. If you are equating having immense confidence in social situations, such as behaving like your the best guy on the team at work or the hottest guy in the room with sexual harassment you have very limited social experiences. And how exactly are supposedly to accomplish this by without being physically attractive yourself? It has nothing to do with being physically attractive. It's having a dare devil personality, or like letting loose. Tons of guys at parties pull this off and aren't studs.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 04:04 AM
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There are a lot of people who use that as their definition of "Chad". No those are referred to as an Alpha as far as I have seen, or a high alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:59 AM
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What does that even mean? "Reactive sensations"? What? Reactive, you respond to some action being acted on you. e.g A man whispers in a woman's ear some enchanting line, woman reacts to it via arousal, increased heart rate etc. Prove it Women frequently, even on this sub, say a commonly deemed attractive man is "an asshole" or "would never go near him". An example would be one of my past posts here was about a white house intern that had an affair with JFK, losing her virginity to him. Most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:58 AM
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Pick two and everything that you said applies. You completely missed the point. Those two things or three things do not get women in bed with you. No man that's 6 feet tall and handsome has stood in some spot and by mere fact of standing there had a woman come over and ask him for sex. Female arousal is based on men proactively or enacting their desires onto woman, to be transformed into the object of desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 03:54 AM
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Do you know what a figure of speech is? Im very curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:52 AM
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you're completely off base on the idea that no Western women are are forced or coerced into prostitution. I think he is referring more to certain people being in complete denial of women who choose to become prostitutes so they can earn lots of money than without doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:25 AM
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I'm not a disgusting slob who makes messes by existing and has no idea how to cook so I don't care about them Someone has triggered the incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 02:21 AM
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He is 5'7", that's not terribly short. Women are turned on by how a man makes them feel. A 6'3" autistic man isn't making anyone drop their panties.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:40 AM
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No, because it seems child like and not mature They will probably find this sexy http://i0.wp.com/blackdickfever.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/crotch4.gif?resize=400%2C295
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:35 AM
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The problem with questions like these is women aren't judging with their reactive emotions towards a man, they are merely judging a picture. Trust me, fly a woman by military helicopter to the Kremlin, have her escorted out on red carpet in front of thousands of guards and soldiers, and into Putin's grand office. Have her watch him give an address to the people of Russia, you will get a very different answer from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:34 AM
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the dude is a manlet. Calling a man that has the power to wipe entire countries off the face of the Earth with a push of a button a "manlet" is a whole new level of ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:30 AM
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Given that over 80% of russians approve of him, and he has much more power in the government relative to Trump, he is considered by many to be the most powerful man in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:25 AM
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That says nothing about what jobs are being added and to who Seems like you don't understand what an unemployment rate is. It measures the total population. Besides, you have no evidence anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:21 AM
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Are you measuring raw GDP or GDP per capita Im measuring unemployment rate, jobs added per month, and the stock market. Point being, there is no evidence most people cant afford to travel outside the united states.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/17 12:18 AM
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Yes I have that too, as did my other frat bros, they show you like 50-80 in an hour than it says it's looking for more. Also there would have to be all those 500 seeing you in the piles of their profiles and actually picking you, which takes much more than an hour. It's a lie
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 08:07 PM
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Nobody gets 500 matches an hour. Tinder won't even show you that many profiles in a single hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:52 PM
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Where on earth do you get this idea? The economy is the strongest it's ever been now and most people can take vacations abroad. Edit: Also any white guy can get a job teaching English in Asia with no experience, so your in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 07:51 PM
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http://www.mensfitness.com/life/entertainment/heres-what-ideal-male-body-looks-19-countries-around-world
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:48 PM
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No, only for the most attractive men. The bottom men in America are top notch elsewhere. Similarly the top men in China might be a 3-4 in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:46 PM
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For all other men, the bottom 80%, if anything, it's harder. What your forgetting is other places outside America don't have such an obsession with masculinity or high standards. In Asia or Europe there is no fixation with super human genetics in sports. Or not much of a gym bro culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:45 PM
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So are you saying most of them look as attractive as this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:28 PM
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This perspective is very common in engineers or STEM related guys. They live mundane lives and don't go out of their way to have fun. The point is, men are sexualized through their actions. Men aren't viewed as sexual objects because that's a passive existence. The male has the role in instigating sexual tension. Men are sexualized through sexual aggressiveness or boldness, and through the power they possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:27 PM
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If you got 100 matches on tinder What's probably happened is he swiped right on every girl, including the enormous amount of fat ones or over 30 ones. There are tons of girls where the first shot is face only and looks normal but the second or third photos show obesity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:22 PM
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Sure enough I got over 100 matches How many of these were obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/17 05:18 PM
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I specified a single thought that was brain damaged. would satisfy even the most demanding of pessimistic supercomputers. This poetic, superiority jargon doesn't help your case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 10:23 PM
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Derp. No idea what this means. I'd be way more attracted to a charismatic villain vs. an ordinary singles ad too. Anything to keep the boredom at bay. Are you being honest here? Then you would agree charismatic bad boy types are more attractive and fun? For bonus clueless points, it was entirely based on first impressions. Genius. Well attractiveness is a first impression. Are you horny or not horny for some man or woman. We aren't talking about long term. All experiments like this do, is prove …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 09:12 PM
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What parts of the study are not scientific or rigged?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 07:57 PM
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Yea so their definition of assertiveness is..... Because assertiveness is based on mutual respect, it's an effective and diplomatic communication style. Being assertive shows that you respect yourself because you're willing to stand up for your interests and express your thoughts and feelings. It also demonstrates that you're aware of the rights of others and are willing to work on resolving conflicts. Yea, you took one small part of the dark triad complex and took it so far out of context it be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 06:17 PM
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Assertiveness, is the healthy mode of communication. That's your assumption and idea. It's not at all a standard way of communicating. Most people from Asian cultures or Indians don't believe in being assertive when talking to others. Most people aren't assertive when they talk to each other. This is a basic 101 of any class teaching appropriate pro-social behavior. Your confusing assertiveness for friendliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:53 PM
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Lets think about it this way. By saying, "Alphas don't exist, the wolf theory is false", one is saying men who are more of the time assertive, bold, leader-like, or sexually confident don't exist. This rebuke of BP seems more like a denial of people not being equal to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:44 PM
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and the only "publication" of redpill ideas is on reddit and a handful of wordpress blogs. Oops, what are these? http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Lift-More-Weights-Get-More-Mates-8069 http://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 05:38 PM
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Disagree. In at least more modern societies, people fight or at war because they are not equal. They have the basic food and supplies but when someone gets that accounting job over someone else it's indicative two people aren't equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:30 PM
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There's no proof at all that life can be created from simply non living materials. No scientist has created life from amino acids before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:27 PM
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I'm curious what sort of sacrifices do you think parents actually make? And what sort of unbreakable bonds do you speak of ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/17 02:17 PM
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Women don't sleep around to find a relationship, this is something they will make it seem like they are doing to avoid slut shaming.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 10:16 PM
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Sexual attraction is controlled by the brain, hormones, and many physiological factors. Saying anything is a 100% a social construct is horrendously false as a persons genes cannot be edited, and people have their own agency, they aren't mindless puppets of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 09:17 PM
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I mean did you live some sort of sheltered life or something ? I can understand not being into parties and such but surely you have seen girls dressed in skin tight, short dresses and heels going to nightclubs right? Or like people making out on the beach ? There isn't a definitive distribution for men, it says some researchers in the APA article believe men report more hookups but the distribution amongst men is smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 08:17 PM
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Nope, this is all thats said about 7 being the average for both genders in terms of hookups for those who do hookup, The median number of hookups for a graduating senior on a college campus is seven, and the typical college student acquires two new sexual partners during their college career.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:30 PM
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just trying to understand it. Do people not get attached to the people in their lives? Im curious, how old are you and what country are you from? You seem to be not cognizant of the millennial social media culture that based around personal satisfaction and instant gratification and very little on caring for others. What are the percentages for men and women separately? In the other article, 20% of women hookup regularly while 50% hookup occasionally, and 30-35% none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:25 PM
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The idea that you peace out the moment the number ticks over 10 with asking a single follow up question is insane. What do you mean by insane? You seem to be using that word incorrectly, unless your implying something that's not understood. There is obviously going to be a difference between someone who has an N-count of 2-3 and an N-count of 17-23. Just like there is a difference between someone who has smoked weed once in their life to someone who does it every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:21 PM
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Do you think it's better for a high-quality man to have several average quality partners or one high-quality partner if he has a choice? several average quality partners. It's not good to become too attached to just one person your whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 04:19 PM
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What you're likely missing is that there's a high degree of social calibration required to pull off crazy shit in social situations, and once you can see the framework you kinda realize that stuff that appears super crazy or risky is actually well placed in a very specific context, the guy doing it is likely picking up on lots of cues that you're missing This 100%. People don't get a lot of what women are attracted to is the reactive feelings they get off certain situations with guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:50 AM
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Its not 10, theres no data that says the average for men is 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:48 AM
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Yet there are girls who will get drunk out of their face, and D-dail a fuck buddy at least twice a month cause they are lonely, but as longs as its an Ex that shes been doing this with thats okay, she still a nice somewhat chaste lady with an N-count around 3-4 This never happens realistically. In my time in a frat in college I have never seen fuck buddy arrangements last that long to where a girl can keep fucking the same guy twice a month for like years. Guys get bored and move on. The idea th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:45 AM
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his sexual nature is to sleep indiscriminately with women? Availability. Most men cannot consistently have lots of sex with new women, but they can have lots of sex in a committed relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:38 AM
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They just get bored of people, and want to try someone new. About 60-80% of people have had casual sex, so your vastly overestimating the amount of people who are that conservative where relationships are concerned. I just made a post about this https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6t9w55/cmv_bpers_are_in_denial_about_the_amount_of_women/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/17 05:36 AM
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Dude, they use the same news sources that your news does. Ignores the existence of bias Guess Ill start citing Roosh as a legitimate source!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 11:10 PM
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Yea an Australian news source is such an accurate choice for getting information about an American event/terrorist attack. There is a reason people don't link Russian news to get info about election hacking, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/17 06:07 AM
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Your vastly overestimating the number of women who do oral/handjobs with no PiV sex. It's quite rare for this to actually happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 08:25 PM
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Very few adults make casual hookups a long-term lifestyle. It's a phase that many young people go through, like binge drinking or radical political affiliations. And I completely agree, but the majority of the discussion of men wanting to get laid is in the 26 or 27 and under age ranges. This is the main sort of argument where BP tends to throw up the "most women aren't open to casual sex" position, not in rebuke to a long term strategy. Even if I had a great time doing them, I'm definitely not …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 05:27 PM
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You were open to it in that moment, which says exactly nothing about how interested or open you'll be in the future. This is the old "past behavior says nothing about the future argument". I linked a study in my OP that found women who do hookup are 600% more likely to do so again....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 04:45 PM
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Strawman! At the point you agreed to have casual sex, you were interested or as I actually said open to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:38 PM
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Incorrect, the average number of hookups a woman has who is hooking up is seven, not her total partner count including non casual sex. The amount of upvote on this comment also proves my view even more....
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:36 PM
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Unless you have evidence to the contrary in my post your just denying it based on having different life experiences than most people. And again, being open merely means you at some point have tried it. It does not mean doing it regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:30 PM
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Your being facetious to the effects social media has on people nowadays. Being friends is just clicking request on Facebook for most millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 01:29 PM
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I think a better way to phrase it is simply men with a large void of masculine qualities aren't desirable to women. They might lack one or another and make up for it, but the groups of guys known for not being attractive or enchanting to women are largely not masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/17 02:16 AM
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This study using data from 2006-2008 suggests that less than 1/4 girls age 18-24 have more than one sex partner in a year, and less than 6% have 4 or more. By age 24 only the top 20% have had 7 or more partners total. That study does not monitor the same girls year after year, it just takes girls from certain age groups. Second, you must not be reading the data correctly. On table 1, page 17, at least 57% of 20-24 women have had one sexual partner in the past 12 months, and for women ages 18-19 …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:30 PM
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I think OP genuinely believes RP men don't think sexism against women exists The problem is people like OP or people who use the term "patriarchy" and "oppression" constantly don't have any reasonable definition of what being oppressed should mean. They have an extremely large confirmation bias where any sort of downfall or hardship a woman faces is attributed toward the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:19 PM
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If you were so conformist and timid that you listened to what "we were told...", why are you crying when you are not successful? you were born not to be successful. Your confusing the chronological time lines here. At one point in time, everyone followed what they were told and and didn't succeed. Michael Jordan didn't make his high school basketball team, Warren Buffet got rejected from Harvard business school, etc. But after some period of time these people start following their own ideas and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:15 PM
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We play videogames, go out to eat, game on Friday nights with our mutual friends, go to comic shops, hobby conventions, cook meals, go to the movies...normal, non-sexy friendship stuff. So what you actually have is just an open relationship. FwB for the vast majority of young people doesn't really involve lots of non-sexual activities, i mean it's hardly "friends" in the sense of friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 10:07 PM
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Festival as in music or EDM festival? Dude this is where the most slutty action happens. I mean girls literally walk around in thongs and a bra for 3 days..
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:09 AM
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A bigger problem though I see is less experienced guys in college have a very altruistic view of friendship, such that it involves selfless giving and kindness. These don't farewell for fostering sexual tension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:07 AM
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I mean, although it starts with making out this isn't too far from what happens in college parties.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:04 AM
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There are lots of studies that show most college hookups involve the presence of alcohol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 05:03 AM
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It wouldn't no. The amount of people being raped to the general population is incredibly small.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:05 AM
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Have you discussed being exclusive ? Have you discussed being committed ? Do you cohabit or spend significant amounts of time together not having sex ?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/17 04:04 AM
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Nope. An LTR is by definition a relationship that involves exlcusitivity and commitment. It's monogamous by nature. For example, people who have LTRs refer to their partners as an SO, or boyfriend, etc. this is not true in an FwB, as there is no form of exclusitivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:53 PM
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Casual sex means anytime exclusivity or commitment is not discussed, the absence of commitment. Claiming to not know this is complete ignorance...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 11:01 PM
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An LTR cannot be a friends with benefits, cause it's not committed and doesn't imply any sense of exclusivity.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 10:57 PM
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So most women are open to casual sex then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:32 PM
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No I actually also believe friends hook up most of the time and not strangers. This is true from my Greek life experience. But that isn't what BP women in particular are claiming. They simply claim most women aren't open to casual sex at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:32 PM
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Those are all obviously casual sex, the vast majority of people understand casual sex to be outside of a committed, exclusive relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:30 PM
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Well it's in the post I linked, and like any discussion about How easy it is for men to get laid. Will be like "oh most women don't have casual sex so of course it's hard to get laid for men!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:06 PM
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I've always wanted a girlfriend myself and I have no doubt that I get waaaaaay more sex from my wife than any single red piller is getting from his tinder, bar, and party girls. Well at least you admit your bias,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 07:02 PM
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This 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:53 PM
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I have never seen a blue flair say this, a woman I mean. You would have to provide links.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:52 PM
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Again, the point is most women are open to casual sex, contrary to BP belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:51 PM
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They aren't really though, not exclusive committed relationships that last more than a few months. But the bigger point is BP says most women aren't interested in casual sex, not that they are into both.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:50 PM
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Please link to where it's been said women have hundreds of partners in college. All I have seen is people say women have more than the CDC average of 4-5
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:48 PM
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They think it's sexist and rude to look at a woman's level of sexual activity and that it doesn't determine her character. That's more of an argument in discussing if promiscuous women are bad or good partners. I am more talking about discussions of say game or getting laid, and they claim most women aren't open to casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:02 PM
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I wouldn't say its a delusion but I think too many believe in philosophical elements of relationships. Meaning like that post recently about discovering who you are is going to make you successful with women. Like it's silly to believe some vague, expansive advice that has no concrete specific meaning is going to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 06:01 PM
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And no certainly not all of them either. So then your agreeing most men cannot easily get sex in an uncommitted or casual dating fashion? And what does date even mean in this context anyway? I define it as a 1 on 1 outing where at least the woman knows the man finds her sexy or attractive. What if you have known a woman for a year or even several years, have hung out together forty times, and then one night you end up sleeping together? And then you discuss it and start dating. How many "dates" …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 05:48 PM
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Yes lots of men can and do date four or five women a year when they are in the dating market. And sleep with all of them with 2-3 dates? I feel you don't understand what casual dating is for young people.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 05:38 PM
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Then how can these same men complain about women not getting married and instead having a bunch of short term commitment free relationships? Thats before they started doing it themselves. Its' simply a post response to the liberation of women. What would that even look like anyway? Like you date a woman for a month or two, decide that it won't work out, and break up? Cause that happens all the time as well. So to get this straight, lots of men can date 4-5 women a year and sleep with them within…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 05:32 PM
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The mistake you are making is most men aren't having trouble getting married, they are having trouble finding short term, commitment free relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/17 04:50 PM
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Yet again, you ignore the part linked in the article that the reason they support net neautrality is because they believe in the free sharing of ideas without restriction. There is no rule in the companies policies that specifically says "It is forbidden to talk about negative aspects of diversity initiatives on the internal forums in this company" Your basing your opinion off something you personally made up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/17 04:03 AM
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Oh yea, Kim Jong Un is so oppressed, all that cash and luxury he lives in. Poor guy! They don't even let him have nukes :(
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 09:38 PM
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Those statements are not mutually exclusive. What two statements?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:53 PM
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That obviously doesn't extend to employment. There is nothing obvious about it. Your too biased to have this discussion because your basing this off your own perspective and not the lack of anything concrete that said what he did was against company policy. Try to base your arguments in actual evidence and not your ignorance, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:52 PM
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The vast majority of liberals are against terrorism. No they aren't. They don't view it as a big problem, or like the mayor of london puts it, it's simply part of urban life. The vast majority of conservatives are against transgender bathroom access. There is no proof of this. It's your illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:51 PM
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Why should some nations have a right to nukes and not others? Seems hypocritical to me Because some states actually want to use them and others only have 2nd use policies? Your aware most of the nuclear countries have a policy that they will only use nuclear weapons if they are attacked with one right? Your also aware that no other nation aside from Cuba has ever threatened to use nuclear weapons against the United States right? the state could fix that by actually wanting to integrate but the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 08:50 PM
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and his ideas don't mesh with that of Google's Did you even read a full article on this before? Did you skip the part about how the internal forums are meant to be places where even controversial ideas are discussed? Like anarchism? Did you also never read that part of googles ideas is free and open internet and speech? https://www.google.com/intl/en/takeaction/whats-at-stake/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 06:18 AM
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They're not disallowing him from spreading his belief, he's disallowing him from spreading that belief within their venue. Thats one in the same if we are talking about values and ethics here. It's no different from what happens in Turkey or many nations where your removed from society and put in jail for spreading beliefs against certain groups of people. There are consequences to your actions. That's not the issue. The issue is it's not applied equally to all ideas. Mark Zuckerberg holds town …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:42 AM
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But they seem to be the same folks claiming trans women want to use the bathroom for rape purposes? So all conservatives, or anyone who isn't a liberal believes this? Do all liberals not believe white people are all oppressive and evil? How many bodies is their new game going to create? Who knows. It's awful. But your painting all conservatives as bad based on the opinions of a few. By that logic I can say liberals love terrorists and think they are heroes
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:29 AM
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That's a wee bit different than the kind of lies that come with a body count. What are you talking about? This thread is about a man who said the gender gap in tech may be due to women's lack of interest in tech. Where are these bodies you speak of?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 05:00 AM
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A 10 page screed about the injustices of your OWN company whom you work for is not the same as being fired "for having conservative views." Are you purposefully being ignornant of all the far left views shared in googles internal forums and tech blogs that hold critical, left wing views of the company by employees? Your talking as if these people have no political bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:55 AM
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This isn't what censorship is, though. Sure it is. It's not government censorship, but it's censorship. Anytime you disallow someone from speaking or expressing their beliefs, for the purpose of preventing them from spreading that idea its censorship. The key part here is that censorship occurs when its one-sided, no one has been fired for talking about how men are violent or toxic to the workplace, wiht no real evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:50 AM
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"You have no tolerance for our intolerance! Isn't that the real intolerance?!" The supreme court would love to have a word with you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/06/19/supreme-court-unanimously-reaffirms-there-is-no-hate-speech-exception-to-the-first-amendment/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:45 AM
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Why is this an issue at all. There was no warning that sharing such opinions on internal forums carries the risk of being fired. And also it promotes inequality, you don't see people being fired for talking about how men are oppressive or violent.....
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:42 AM
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I saw the memo referred to as "fascist" and "Nazi". These words have lost all meaning. Just today I saw an article saying how North Korea, an actually fascist country, is oppressed and has the right to build its own set of nuclear weapons........
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:40 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? If women are truly turned off by asshole behavior and really only attracted to looks they would simply be going for nice and caring guys. Your claiming that a good looking asshole is a compromise to a good looking caring kind dude. But there appears to be far more women going for bad boys or tattoo guys than nice and caring gentlemen. If it is a true compromise there would need to be some sort of shortage.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:39 PM
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But, I think his ego got in the way and he lost his way so to say. But don't you believe this would fall under the category of asshole? It seems like your just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Put it this way, if a man you weren't involved with had a big ego, like a waiter at the restaurant, would you consider that being an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 04:35 PM
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what your saying doesn't hold any weight unless you can prove there is a dramatic shortage of good looking guys who are friendly and caring.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:34 PM
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I think it's stranage to men more because men are attracted to what a woman looks like or behaves like while women are attracted to how she reacts and feels about a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:28 PM
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How do you explain assholes that aren't conventionally good looking? So your saying a woman can't be attracted to men with a big ego who are narcissistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:26 PM
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I mean, some of us do and don't "like assholes." Says the woman who dated a guy with an ego so big he thought cheating was acceptable. Bare in mind when a lot of these questions say this, they really mean "ass holes are able to attract women enough to have sex with them" not "women always pick and stay with assholes"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 02:25 PM
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You have honestly never heard of commitment phobe circle jerking? The Commitment Phobe: This guy pretends to be happy on his own, living large as a bachelor, just like his hero George Clooney, but he's actually just terrified of letting a woman get to know the real him. The woman he wants: Someone who will never expect their relationship to evolve past the casually dating stage, who will never expect to meet his parents or even necessarily his friends, and won't want to talk about pesky things l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 05:50 AM
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/u/hyperrreal this post seems like a title only, or an emotional rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 12:56 AM
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Rpillers claim to represent the male experience. Are they wrong? They could or could not be. The problem is their perspective of the male experience is heavily biased due to it coming from a collection of males that are not successful in certain ways with women. I mean, do you understand what bias is?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 12:08 AM
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its always the short girls hanging out with 6'3" hunks who are the promiscuous ones...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 06:16 AM
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It depends on age, really. If she's 30, that may only work out at like four guys a year. No it would actually be 6 guys a year, or 5 if she started at 18. If she's 20, it probably means she fucks a new guy every few weeks. If she's young, no. It's a bit weird to me dating a girl who would fuck almost anyone, she probably has little self-esteem. I mean yea that would be a super high frequency, even by greek life or sorority standards. There was one girl in my universities greek community that act…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:39 AM
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If she had done all this stuff outside of an LTR, it would be an issue, yes. Well but why is it an issue if thats the case? See I totally get TRP thing about her blowing some other guy on the first date and not you, but if she treats you the same I am not quite getting whats bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:35 AM
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I'm sure a lot of women wouldn't want a guy who has slept with 60 women, either. Well they probably wouldn't on the basis of a lack of secure commitment chance. But women have a habit of forgetting about the negative of a guy if they are infatuated with him. I mean gangsters have girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 04:34 AM
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Well what if she did all the stuff she did with other guys with you as well? Would it still be an issue then ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:47 AM
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STD tests don't exist ? Oops
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 03:16 AM
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Not to an exact number, but it's easy to tell if a woman is promiscuous or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:05 AM
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Is she close to the average N count in your circle ? Or more of an outlier ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:03 AM
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That's interesting. So by slutty though do u mean individual acts, like deep throating and anal, or like group acts, like having a train run on her?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:02 AM
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What kind of problems ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:01 AM
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Do you think there is a difference between say 30 or 60 n - count for u or is it really based off a cutoff point ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:46 AM
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The way u know doesn't matter, it could be an estimate around 60, otr a hint. Why does that gross you out? Would u sleep with 60 beautiful girls if you had the chance ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:45 AM
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Why not ?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:40 AM
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She might tell them, or they can know from seeing how frequently she is with a different man. But again this is not relevant to this question. It's about how men perceive about whom they think is a ho.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:39 AM
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How would they ever know? STD tests? Note this is simply a condition so the answers aren't derailed into unimportant topics, how they would know doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:36 AM
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I'm not disagreeing that surveys are pretty terrible for accurate data. I just don't understand why "4-5" is the apparent boundary for the "cock carousel" when it's totally reasonable to have been in a relationship for 1+ years with most or all of those guys. No clue. It's likely bias. But the amount of 1 year relationships in the 23 and younger age group is really overestimated by TBP.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:27 AM
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You do however see men, married men included, complaining about not getting to experience Chad's lifestyle. Thus at least confined to the people here, it's men who believe they are settling, not women. Bare in mind your using a heavily biased sample, i mean one that is so biased you can't really make conclusions purely based off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:19 AM
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Most don't ACTUALLY marry their high school sweethearts. Intentions and a metro card get you on the subway. Oh so your just talking about puppy love. The CDC average includes men who were assaulted as children in that average. It isn't a median. It's far more likely that most men lose their virginity after 17. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf It shows in multiple places 50% of men by the age of 17 have had vaginal intercourse. The amount of men who are vaginally raped is extraordin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 10:58 PM
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Must be why they raise so many criminals right? Studies also show that 80 percent of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes; 85 percent of youths in prisons grew up in fatherless homes (source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Department of Corrections, 1992).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:44 PM
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Read the comments before you respond. It's irrelevant and I don't care. She even admits the error she made here https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6rp3bm/are_we_rp_a_bit_hypocritical_for_judging_afbb/dl6y31u/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:41 PM
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You assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all, or other, parts of it; or that the whole must apply to its parts. She isn't just being non-specific, she is saying it doesn't matter, applying parts of something to the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 04:30 PM
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That would mea most sexual partner count studies or surveys are innaccurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:25 PM
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If someone is repeatedly giving blowjobs to different guys it's ignorant to still call them a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:25 PM
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Edit 2: And no, most men do not lose their virginity around 16. They PRETEND to lose their virginities at around 16. Most men, particularly men who don't have high-school sweethearts that they eventually intend to marry, don't lose their virginities until after college, so you're probably good. Nobody intends to marry their high school sweetheart anymore on any realistic scale. It's unheard of in modern times. Looking at the CDC survey, the average age for male virginity loss is 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:15 PM
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What does fucked up mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:11 PM
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Right but this normally adds up to more than 4-5 as a female N count.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:10 PM
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https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 03:08 PM
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any guy they want, because not every guy is necessarily a choice. But every women doesn't want any possible guy. Your claiming every woman wants a movie star or athlete. I'm just pointing out that if someone believes that women can have sex with any guy they want with no effort, then one must also conclude that the women who want sex with celebrities can do so with no effort. No they don't have to include those, that's not even a reasonable assumption. This is a textbook example of a strawman ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:55 AM
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The vast majority of women are not attracted to short guys. Vladimir Putin is 5'6".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:27 AM
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None of those are saying that a woman can get any guy they want with no effort. You apparently didn't read them again. Most of women's "effort" with sex is literally choosing which guy to have sex with. Women get free sex all the time and never work for it. Implying women merely choose the man they want means they select the men they want and get them. If people though women could get any guy they wanted with no effort that would entail that a woman could say, get some famous actor or whatever w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:20 AM
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I don't give a shit what "form" of feminism you think is "best" I never stated any of my opinions, I stated facts. Equating third wave feminism with those of the first wave is like giving credit to Donald Trump for winning the revolutionary war. Normally you present better logic in your arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:16 AM
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Anecdotal, but young girls aren't really taught to think of weddings as the highlight of our adult lives anymore. I know, this guy must be from the middle east or india.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:13 AM
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Casual sex, ONS type of people are crazy insecure or generally fucked up people. This sounds a lot like personal projection. How did you come to the conclusion someone, male or female, is fucked up if they like casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:05 AM
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How are you defining it? A problem with the "CC" is that the combination of either full on nerds here or RPers leads women to either be being blown in the club bathroom by different chads or be in a 3 year relationship in college thinking about marriage. Neither of those two views represent the average. The average would be more of a dating carousel. A lot of women in the 18-26 range aren't marriage minded, but go through lots of short term (1-3 month) relationships, give or take some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:04 AM
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Feminism allowed me to pursue the job I wanted. That's first wave feminism, nothing to do with the modern current form of feminism. This is a very common logical fallacy among feminists actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 06:01 AM
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No one here thinks women can get any guy they want with no effort. No one in the thread you link is saying that either. First of all, you didn't read the comments enough then. Most of women's "effort" with sex is literally choosing which guy to have sex with. Woe is them. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6ra9ay/cmv_there_is_no_free_sex_no_one_gets_sex_handed/dl3ubxr/ Women get free sex all the time and never work for it. All they have to do is not be grossly obese, not be a tot…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/17 05:01 AM
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$1000 a month is SSDI, not welfare / PA. Which requires a disability, not simply choosing not to work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 09:36 PM
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Proof ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:50 AM
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So you truly believe most men would fuck this woman ? http://media2.phuketgazette.net/images/articles/2014/phuketnews_2014226105014218_wleVsYyULlrSmWPHIQnZavcILZTmZtIKyuYvnABp_jpeg.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:44 AM
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Unless men are in mass willing to fuck any woman men are only going after ones they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:34 AM
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wore often ill-fitting clothes that I literally found on the street (because I was ideologically opposed to buying new clothes and supporting sweatshops and consumer culture) Alright, but to be fair here, it seems your making concerted efforts to have some specific look or overall style your going for. Like perhaps it doesn't require immense time, but your mentally calculating steps of how you can become more hipster. What I was trying to specify in the linked post is, people are putting effort …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 07:33 AM
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What this means in practice is, some men like women caked in makeup because they're idiots. Other men prefer similar traits as what makeup provides (reddish lips, pale skin), but in real flesh, not makeup. But unless you have some fixation on genetics and want to reproduce with the said woman your just calling them idiots for no reason. There is no difference between a woman who achieves look A through make up or without makeup. It's like saying that a drawing and photocopy of it are for some re…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/17 06:33 AM
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Well, most men are idiots too, I wont deny that. But why are they idiots? Your using a biological fallacy here. Why does it matter if they are attracted to makeup or natural ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 08:50 PM
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Have you considered that men are attracted to these features, but only when they appear naturally in women, and not just because of makeup? If that was actually true women who wear makeup such as lipstick wouldn't be considered more attractive now would they? Your making a false cause argument. Men nor women don't alter their physical attraction to something depending on where it came from. There are studies that show men think a woman is natural looking but she actually has a base of makeup alr…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 08:18 PM
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Have you considered that men are attracted to these features, but only when they appear naturally in women, and not just because of makeup? No woman has natural red lips. This is another made up illusion of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:06 PM
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Not a valid source. It's like sourcing buzzfeed. It's hilarious your equating the guardian and buzzfeed, but ill let that slide and give u an actual psychology publication with a link to studies. In one study by Richard Russell (2009) (here), it was found that men found women more attractive who had more contrast in their faces: meaning redder lips, against darker hair and perhaps paler skin. The explanation for this is that contrast a) made women look more feminine and b) made them look younger…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:58 PM
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Regularly approached would mean getting sexual interest expressed towards you 2-3 times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:41 PM
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Can you please show me an example of just one (1) woman (over 18) who has never been approached? Literally just one. Ah gotta love that strawman there! Not getting regularly approached totally means you never been approached before right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:37 PM
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I said that for casual sex, makeup, clothes, hairstyles, dont really matter, since people are just gonna bang. Your claiming that none of those things have any impact on one's sexual attractiveness. This is a fallacy. Citation heavily needed. It's not like guys have different tastes, right? "men ONLY approach girls who wear makeup!" I offered my self-selected sample of fellas a picture of yours truly in Maris Piper form - not a scrap of camouflage - and one of me with natural-looking makeup. Bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:36 PM
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No you don't add 1 billion to that unless you know that 1 billion actually goes there. Your back pedaling is absolutely hilarious. you just said men who actually go there. Ill get the mods to ban this incel sockpuppet account of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:33 PM
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ARE YOU claiming that ALL MEN No where in the OP or anywhere in this post did i claim or use the word all. I said it exists for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 05:32 PM
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I'd argue that average women are so sought after that they effectively could never be alone. That's an idea you use to comfort yourself. The average woman isn't getting regularly approached. If were taking average to mean a size 16 in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 04:42 PM
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Women, regardless of attraction, can go online or at a club, But now that's not free. You gotta plan and set aside the time to go to a club, drive there etc. I dont see how some women work for it. Unless you count taking pictures of themselves and putting them online as "work". I dont count it as work. Your making the ridiculous assumption men don't like girls with makeup, yet they only approach girls who wear a fair bit of makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 04:38 PM
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Ah no women wear heals or club dresses gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 03:08 PM
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Guys, and guys wanting casual sex, dont care about that. Oh yea men are no differently turned on based on how much skin a girl is showing. They even love acne on her face right ? This place is full of incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:59 PM
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There is no such thing as $1000 a month welfare. Your using made up ideas to counter real ones. Beyond that it's slippery slope. You have no direct connection to why women put so much effort into appearance, and would achieve identical results if they didn't. Perhaps your projecting an experience of being desperate with women? Maybe hot guys might not want to have sex with women who don't wear makeup ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:28 PM
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And I can show you pictures of women who look absolutely beautiful the second they wake up from sleep. You should post an example then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:22 PM
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So do you really believe that hot guys would have sex with girls who put no effort into their appearance ? Never wore sexy clothes, put on makeup, or any of that? No working out either ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:21 PM
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even if they don't dress well, don't do make-up, and don't put any effort. If that is true why do so many women take such careful time perfecting their appearance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:18 PM
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So she wore no makeup, no stylish clothes, spent no time taking photos for the social media site, didn't do her hair, none of that? Also what are you burning ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:17 PM
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As with the other comment, there are no natural 10s. Look at pictures of celebrity women with no make up or them before plastic surgery or before they got famous. None of them are stunning. Additionally, if women didn't need to worry about appearance so much why are so many of them doing so ?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:15 PM
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Your confusing a requirement to what's actually happening. If women don't have to worry about their appearance, or do their hair, apply makeup, wear sexy dresses or clothes, why are so many of them doing so?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 02:12 PM
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No, because in casual sex the man must turn her on purely via sexual appeal. In a long term relationship there are a wider variety of expectations so the standard for attractiveness, or more specifically sexiness is lower. Basically, an alternative version of your statement would be saying someone is no more likely to be attracted to a Porsche vs a Toyota.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 08:34 AM
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Right, but this post is more challenging the idea of genetics or nature playing a dominating role in who gets laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:20 AM
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Most women, doesn't matter what they look like, can make a tinder account and get sex easy as pie. Again, all women put an extensive amount of effort into there appearance. Your in denial of the amount of makeup or hair styling the average women does. Not to mention photoshopping or taking the right pictures for tinder. Gay men can go to specific parking spots at night or certain clubs and get some dick without doing much for it. Oh yea gay men never have a single muscle or have been to the gym …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 07:18 AM
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Yet here we are and millions of men aren't booking tickets and packing their bags. oops whats this? http://www.wouk.org/rahab_international/pdf_files/Sex%20Tourism%20in%20Thailand.pdf That means that in 2002, about 4,560,000 male tourists came to Thailand specifically for sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 04:53 AM
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It takes tremendous intellectual dishonesty to believe that the male won't spend large sums of money and travel many miles to achieve the male imperative of recreationally impregnate as many females as possible. The kind of intellectual dishonesty that only males have. I have met many male hamsters who never had any interest in Thailand their whole lifes but want to go there once they learn about the sexual degenrancy going there. Then thailand all of a sudden becomes a "beautiful touristic spot…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 04:50 AM
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Prostitutes totally love you and enjoy giving you affection. Oh and they totally WANT to have sex with you. That's why they demand money for the act. Do you believe most women would have sex with their boyfriend or husband if he didn't give them any gifts or financial benefit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/17 03:45 AM
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No you don't add 1 billion to that unless you know that 1 billion actually goes there. You just moved the goalposts so much that not even Ronaldo can score. We just got done saying where this sexual freedom is available to men, now your moving the goals to men who actually use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:25 PM
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And this is not equivalent at all. Women are able to hook up with most guys in a night club ANY night ANYWHERE and FOR FREE. Nope, thats your hamster talking. Women need to spend money on make up, hot clothes, heels, transportation etc. to get laid. They also have jobs and other obligations you know? Guess u don't have those. Because IN FACT, NO, sexual freedom does NOT exist for most men. The very idea you are asserting your claims as fact with no evidences or sources is mental masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:23 PM
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No, I'm on my vacation right now, so I went to Thailand for two weeks. What made u choose that destination for vacation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 11:19 PM
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But I think it's actually illegal in Thailand. By law yes but no one is arrested for it and hookers proudly dance in the streets. So that isn't illegal in any significant way. But even in some places where its legal, the politicians and cops still try to shut shit down. Nope, thats an oxymoron. A lot of people don't vacation outside of their own country Source? links? If its so easy to travel and get pussy, why doesn't everyone do it? Why are there still men online complaining about being incels…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 08:09 PM
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The even funnier part is your ignoring the culturally legal behemoth of chinese brothels that function from massage parlors and hotel spas. Add 1 billion to that 4% of yours buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:04 PM
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First of all, not all those millions live next to tourist destinations. So you need to live right next to it in order to access it? Spinning. But most importantly, your 1-2 hundred million of people IS negligibly small compared to 7.5 billion. I thought u just said your only counting men! Spinning. So no, I got no hamster. It's your denial stage lasting too long. Way too long I will bet $1000 if someone paid hookers to show up at your day you would say your not sexually free since you have to in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 07:01 PM
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It's like 5 minutes away from where I live, lol. Never been to the actual place though. Im confused, are you a native thai yourself? or an expat?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:35 PM
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But they DONT desire you. Men arent stupid, and will see through the illusion. This is your incel hamster spinning. If this was actually true there wouldn't be enormous markets for sexual services. It's like saying facebook is fake and doesn't feel like real friends, but facebook is one of the largest websites in the entire world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:34 PM
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Their number is negligibly small compared to the number of men who don't live there, so no need to mention them. oh yea, there is only like, 82 million people in Germany, or 68 million in Thailand. Oh and lets of course not mention the 65 million in UK, and 10s of million in italy...... Your hamster is going wild my friend. Simply wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:31 PM
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But I do know I became okay being attracted to fat girls, and now that I can readily get hotter girls I kind of reflexively don't want less good looking girls. Its weird and kind of annoying. This is interesting. So your saying you started off with fat girls and moved onto hot girls? Do you believe this strategy was effective?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:29 AM
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Before a view can be challenged the OP has to define their terms: "sexual freedom". A situation or environment where one can have as much sex as they want with a reasonable frequency and reasonable selection. Such as 1-3 times a day or with decent to hot looking girls. Secondly, they would have to show how access to hookers represents sexual freedom. It presents men an opportunity that is guaranteed to result in sex, and sex that he can get what he wants, regardless of her desire (meaning his at…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:28 AM
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that they make no difference between a 6 and a 9 In terms of the things they want to do with a 6 and 9 no they do not. Men want to sleep with both the 6 and the 9. Women want the 6 as a boyfriend and the 9 for a hookup.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:23 AM
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somehow I am supposed to be arranging 5somes? Have you heard of a place called nana plaza? Thats where those girls in the OP are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:19 AM
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There's no way I could be so nonchalant about it. I have heard they also have massage houses where you get a massage and sex. And I don't get the appeal of gogo bars - it looks so public, awkward and embarrassing. You don't enjoy hot girls in underwear dancing? Maybe your asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 06:18 AM
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and some end up having abortions which fuck them up for life This is 100% emotional ranting on your part. There is a near 100% consensus among women that abortion is a woman's right and not wrong or bad. There is no reasonable woman who would not have an abortion unless they were morally against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:07 AM
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First of all, prostitution is illegal or not-quite-legal in a lot of places and there are periodic crackdowns. There are also moral stuff against it and social shaming- its' "wrong", it "exploits women", "only losers do it", etc. Looks like you didn't read the post. There are a number of locations where prostitution is legal and regarded as a primary source of income for tourism for the area. Germany, Italy, Thailand, just to name a few. I am talking about these. Secondly, a lot of men can't aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 05:05 AM
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So, even if we totally ignore the existence of condoms, birth control, plan-B and abortions, if women were really concerned about pregnancy they wouldn't be having casual sex would they ?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 12:19 AM
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http://www.wouk.org/rahab_international/pdf_files/Sex%20Tourism%20in%20Thailand.pdf First page 4,500,000 men visited Thailand for sex tourism. Nice try though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:59 PM
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Hard to answer for myself, but based off of observations: The girl in question has dated guys much more attractive than said man before. The girl is significantly more popular than the said man. The said man has a negative stereotype while the woman has a positive sexual one (think software nerds). The guy doesn't party much while the girl does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:45 PM
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that doesn't mean she has high self esteem, that just means shes reacting in the biologically female way. And the biologically female way is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:40 PM
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if right after you get that strong emotional reaction you leave and pay, you feel worse compared to if that's someone That's your own personal projection, this doesn't appear to be a sentiment among men using prostitutes or becoming sex tourists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:37 PM
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Men have higher general confidence, but women have a higher sexual self esteem. Put it this way, in any given interaction, a woman will value herself sexually higher than a man will. She will be willing to go for hotter guys while a guy might just see who he can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:27 PM
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Alright, so you orgasm with a prostitute or a one night stand. Oxytocin is oxytocin.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:22 PM
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sex tourists are more selective in Thailand than they are back home. back home they have to settle for fat chicks their age. Logical fallacy. Where's your proof all of them settle for fat wives? Or that they don't seek out similar looking women? sounds like exactly what women say. Men are attracted to the vast majority of average weight or somewhat overweight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:05 PM
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What you meant to say is that sexual freedom exists for men with money and time off who can afford travelling. All jobs have some form of timeoff or PTO, even grocery workers get PTO. Your also ignoring men who already live in europe or places that already have this.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 10:03 PM
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I think I should have clarified this before but, "More selective" here means is there some exponentially increased standard of selection relative to normal conditions without such easy access to sex. So you are correct men aren't fucking fat hookers, but if u look through more of these Thai girls, the majority of them are not top notch. A good number of them are in their mid to late twenties, or older. For example, we could say for women whom do participate in the college hookupculture, there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:54 PM
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Approximately 500,000 British men visited Thailand last year. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:43 PM
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Again, they have these setups in many places, Germany, Prague, South America, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:43 PM
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There is no connection in casual sex. This is a female fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 09:41 PM
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In the time of service, a prostitute does act like she desires you. This is well documented anywhere you read on the internet. You are also forgetting that men who get sex naturally aren't free since they are tied by giving pleasure to the woman and what she wants. When your paying for it it's about what you and what you want. And lastly, you are confusing popularity for freedom, the two are very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 06:31 PM
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For incels it is. Look at some of the incel subs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:24 PM
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When they can choose between many options because they're paying, men get more selective; they choose fit women. Your operating from your own fantasy and not reality. Fat women aren't becoming prostitutes in Thailand. They can't choose them. Also most men don't want sex with fat women in their default state.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 03:09 PM
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And your definition of freedom is a utopia. The vast majority of men can afford $50 for a fuck or $30 for a blowjob.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:26 PM
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This post has nothing to do with connection. Please don't comment if you aren't even going to read the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:22 PM
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Abroad in these destinations most cost $50.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:09 PM
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I'm free to buy a couple of private jets, but that's essentially meaningless if it's not easily attainable. Something that is functionally available to only a small percentage of the population is stretching the definition of "freedom" to comical terms. $50 for a fuck or $30 for a blowjob is available to a vast majority of the population. There is nothing in the world attainable to everyone. I am not interested in discussing impossible utopias. From your picture (and common sense) it looks like …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:09 PM
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The post title says "more selective". Not "selective". You either committed a straw man or didn't read my post.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 02:04 PM
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Good lord as might as well rename black pill the incel pill. Thailand isn't a third world country. What does paying for it matter if you can afford it? Nothing in life is free anyways. Just like I said your back at a mentally masturbated utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:42 AM
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Yes. My post is more a response to this one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6qs6f4/if_men_could_suddenly_have_sex_with_almost_any/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:38 AM
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Yes. My post is more a response to this one. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/6qs6f4/if_men_could_suddenly_have_sex_with_almost_any/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:38 AM
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How much more freedom do you need then to have sex with up to 3-5 women a day and have hundreds if not thousands to choose from?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:37 AM
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Some women chose to live in same-sex relationships because they couldn't get Going to need a source on that. You realize at that time homosexuality was described as a mental illness right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:35 AM
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Why not? It's the closest realistic thing that's not some mentally mastuebated utopia.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 07:32 AM
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Also, it happens that young men date young women who don't want to have sex. If you didn't imply this is common whats even the point of bringing it up? Lets just make the generalization it doesn't happen 99.999% of the time and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:34 AM
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I don't think exclusivity with no sex is valuable to men, but it's not 100% true that all men would refuse it. But it's 99.9999% true. Just the other day, on this sub, there was a guy saying he would rather have a dead bedroom with a woman guaranteed not to cheat on him than to have a wife who likes sleeping with him but he cannot be sure that she won't cheat on him. Yea and just the other day I read an article on how a man gave birth! Actually here it is! What's your point? Also, it happens tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 05:01 AM
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Dead bedroom without adultery is a form of exclusivity though probably not what the man had in mind! The fact you think exclusivity with no sex is in anyway valuable to men is completely hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/17 12:04 AM
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Dude a lot of girls in sororities go for Latino/ Mexican stoner guys. Especially those with weed available. I have seen those best out taller guys who are low key tons of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 08:13 PM
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a midpacker myself and never even close to the hottest guy there, That's your perception. Not the women's perception. Hypergamy is based off of one's own perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:14 PM
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A big problem with studies or debates about this is they focus on the array of sexualities but not the respective ratios or how common each one is from one another. Additionally, they center around the mere existence of very rare phenomena and not the most prominent ones we actually come in contact with you'll find such a ridiculously wide spectrum of perspectives. From alpha guys to submissive guys, from demure women with responsive libidos to those agonizing over ending their relationships bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:13 PM
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Doesn't mean any man who follows RP will have a 100% success rate. Women can be attracted to a man and not want to fuck him. Women could want to fuck a man and not to it for other reasons. Correct, but the person quoted in the OP is making it sound as if sexuality is some sort of pokemon preference, denying any sort of trend toward women or men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:05 PM
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If he'd marry the 9 but try to pressure the 5 into an abortion, yes he is. What on earth do abortion and marriage have to do with each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:32 PM
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I target the mid-packers specifically because I can monopolize them. The very fact you are still attracted to and going after the mid packers means you are not hypergamous. Think about it this way, you are choosing a situation where you are more likely to have more women, because there is some attraction to that for you. Hypergamy is not going after the hottest person. It's having a near singular idea of the hottest person and not going for people below that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:30 PM
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Did he made them do it or did they choose to do it because they wanted to benefit from the rewards of doing so? He either coerced them into doing so (threatening a ban from all Parties and other black mail) or just whipped out his dick and started doing it. Your just world fallacy is working overtime my friend. By this logic men who abuse women aren't assholes because the women chose to get into a relationship with this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 04:20 PM
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Yeah I've never seen that happen. You have never seen a woman say she would take a skinny nerd any day but end up with a big muscular dude ?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:40 PM
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Women do not overwhelmingly lie about what they are attracted to. What happens most of the time is they cannot properly communicate what they are attracted to because they have a reactive sexuality. They say what they are attracted to on paper but that's not what individual men whom approach them are or look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:37 PM
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Again, your projecting female sexuality into men. Most men do not have a 9 they can go and fuck. This is a female line of thinking. Even if they did, being open to both a 9 and a 5 in the same general time period means a man is not hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:17 AM
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The very fact a scatter shot approach is needed implies they aren't going for the top woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 05:14 AM
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I really can't think of a single damn thing you could do for one hour a day in place of lifting that would yield such an amazing broad spectrum of results over a long period of time. Try again. This. Lifting makes girls assume you are masculine and know what you are doing in the bedroom. It gives you a huge edge.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 03:08 AM
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Dating and to a larger extent society was ruined every since sex became easier for males. All of your examples have nothing to do with the lose of dating. Not one of them mentions dating. Dating has declined dramatically since women in the USA have gained access to contraception, equal pay opportunities, and more protection against rape and sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:53 AM
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That is exactly what every single man does as well, focuses his attention on the hottest girl around. In addition to my other comment, if this were actually true the majority of women would not be receiving attention, being hit on, or receiving unwanted sexual attention from men when they go out. This is obviously not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:45 AM
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Um, no. They go for the hottest girl they think they have a chance with. Your missing the point. There is often not one "hottest" girl for a man. There are an array of girls that are attractive or hot for which the man goes for. Women often sets their sights on a singular man, whom the other men aren't on their radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:44 AM
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Yes, against all logic, my soft-spoken and genuinely nice boyfriend, who treated me like gold, Bare in mind, this is your perception, just as the guys you didn't choose had their own perception of your boyfriend. None of that is objective truth. You, as a woman attracted to a man have a bias to see that man in a positive light, and ignore his possible flaws or bad behaviors. This also happens with men talking about the women they are dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 02:01 AM
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It's the guy I get along with the best, someone with whom I have no major ideological feud, someone with whom I can laugh and feel comfortable. Women's sexuality is largely reactive to individual men. So what your stating now is an idealization of what you, on paper are attracted to. A man could have all three of those qualities and still be unattractive to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 01:28 AM
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Being decent is as simple as being kind, honest, and considering the feelings of others. Ok, but bare in mind if your basing your standard of "genuinely nice" off of your own perceptions, and not specific behaviors, they are subject to your own bias as a woman dating or attracted to the man in question. (this is similar to the woman are wonderful effect TRP describes.) For example, in college, there was this one guy known in the frat next to mine for making pledges drink his urine. Yet all the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 01:02 AM
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Hypergamy isn't about looks. Then what on earth is it about?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:56 AM
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If they have something else to offer other than simply being an honest and decent human. What is your standard for decent? Would not calling you on your birthday count as not decent? EDIT: what about opening the car door?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:55 AM
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Women date 10 normal guys and 1 asshole you only hear about the asshole on fb or insta. What does normal mean? Women date guys who are attractive and confident. Not cause theyre assholes So women aren't attracted to asshole behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:49 AM
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If the guys attractive, he can't be an asshole. Only unattractive men are assholes. Now thats a textbook just world fallacy! Golden proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:42 AM
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They don't pretend to be nice to get laid. They funny part is people never consider the fact any man is somewhat nice to a woman to get laid. Even assholes need to soften up a little to comfort a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:41 AM
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So your claiming women are never attracted to assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:37 AM
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i had never even talked about height when you mentioned that i 'ignored' it. height, build, status and more are core components of hypergamy or sexuality in general. If your not even considering those and just going to claim "men don't know anything", this post is a rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:36 AM
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Not actual guys who are genuinely nice. So genuinely nice guys do fine with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:35 AM
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Those guys the nice guys think are assholes, aren't really assholes. So you believe women are really never attracted to assholes? Or any man a woman is attracted to isn't an asshole? Do you ever consider a woman might be attracted to a guy who is nice to her but an asshole to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:34 AM
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Attraction isn't systematic Of course it is. This is pure denial on your part. Do you not see one can judge what kind of men women they know are attracted to, and emulate the features of those men? lol what? thats not true. similarly, men chase women who are skinnier, curvier than average. so what? This is about women not men. Men are not hypergamous. what are you on about Are you going to deny the evidence women as a vast majority prefer men fairly taller than themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:30 AM
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why do you assume that in the womans mind it is hypergamy too? in her mind, she could be thinking that she is on the same level as the man, or even above. Your mis-categorizing the situation as psychological when it is in fact mathematical. If a woman goes after men much more taller and muscular than average men, and does not go after the average built guys or average height guys, she is going after men whom are better in some ways than other men. Furthermore your being totally ignorant of the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:24 AM
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so its a psychological state? apart from that people are just making assumptions Do you believe that no inferences on someone's mind can ever be made from their behavior? If you do that is really unreasonable. If I go in parties and see most of the women talking to the tallest, muscular guys, than thats hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:16 AM
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Defining hypergamy as "women date up" is misleading because as you said, up means different things to different people. What it really means is that, women have a more comparison based sexuality and perception of men then men do to women. Women will seek out, among the men she knows, the tallest, or strongest, or most masculine man. Regardless of the specific features she may be after, women size men up against each other and go for the top guy. Men on the other hand don't do this. They go for a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/17 12:11 AM
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If you want to have casual sex or hookups at parties in college you need to lift and get jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 06:28 AM
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ain't no ladies be getting that done in the middle ages. Going to need a source on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/17 06:20 AM
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3) Just world "Does an attractive man have an easier time in the social world than a less attractive man?" That's not a just world fallacy. A just world fallacy is when for example someone denies or claims women are never attracted to assholes, they are only manipulated or tricked by them. Or that all nice guys eventually get a wonderful partner that they always dreamed of. BP does this a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 07:44 PM
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Fuck zone is the "fuck boy" phenomenon though. its just different used to describe people who wanted more, but aren't getting it No it's not. There are no fuck boys complaining about a lack of women to get into a relationship with. There are many women complaining about being majorly wanted for casual sex but not being considered for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:50 PM
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You could just be happy with the status quo, and never get married. I think your circumnavigating from the point most young people aren't interested in devoted, exclusive relationships that last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:43 PM
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It's not that I think it's like this, it's the definition of the word itself used by the majority of people. You likening it to the "fuck boy" phenomenon common in college campuses. Put it this way, your trying to use the duck zone or friend zone to something which isn't really negative, cause u don't lack options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:36 PM
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It's quite simple. Someone that I was having sex with I wished to commit to, she did not feel the same. Then your misrepresenting yourself. The fuck "zone" or friend "zone" is when your kind of universally stuck in one place but not the other. Girls complain about getting pumped or dumped or "these guys just want sex and that's it", where guys complain about no sex at all. Having the ability to both get a relationship or casual sex doesn't put you in the fuck zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:31 PM
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but I don't actually see why you wouldn't want it to be an LTR? Well because you have no interest at the current moment in settling down. I mean literally nobody in college has these days has extended relationships that are totally committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:16 PM
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The part that's a bit skeptical is not your sexual success, it's that your implying that no woman wants a relationship from you, even if that's not a woman your already having sex with. It's kind of like saying a rich man can't get approved for s mortgage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:13 PM
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It's also completely implausible seeing as very (and I mean VERY) few women are actually interested in casual sex. Uhhhhhh The most recent data suggest that between 60 percent and 80 percent of North American college students have had some sort of hook-up experience. This is consistent with the view of emerging adulthood (typical college age) as a period of developmental transition (Arnett, 2000), exploring and internalizing sexuality and romantic intimacy, now including hookups (Stinson, 2010).…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:12 PM
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People often get familiar (as friends) and then see LTR qualities they hadn't initially realised. But they don't see them as friends initially because there is some level of attraction that's already present. There is a non-friendly type of motive. sometimes you'll be wrong" But in reality this line of thinking has caused lots of bad outcomes for women and men. It leads men to think any friend that's a woman is the somewhat beginning of getting to have sex with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:58 PM
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they should become each other's best friend. Do you honestly believe this is true for even casual dating ? Like no real commitment or long term status? A lot of people here are saying girls don't fuck guys they view as friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 03:55 PM
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So let me get this straight, you believe a man can simply read something on TRP, walk into a bar, attempt to do this X thing, and have it work flawlessly and instantly ? Like we can just imagine ourselves as other people and have it be an instant change ?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 08:08 AM
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By learning to monitor and control your thoughts, Right, but you cannot do this by virtue of simply reading you need abundance mentality to get women. I am saying the change is not on off or on switch, or a costume piece, as TRP suggests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 07:07 AM
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But it is genuine if you have a genuine belief in your automatic self worth and think your value is intrinsic. It's the concept that your self value is divorced from what other people think or what "society" or the group thinks. Well yes I agree with that but I am again saying you cannot simply think this and have it feel true and real. You need to spend time doing things or improving yourself or convincing yourself such an idea is true and realistic. You cannot simply read it in a book and auto…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:50 AM
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Yes you can. it just takes focus, effort, and diligence Well what are you applying effort to then? If there isn't any positive experiences being achieved?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:46 AM
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It's called the concept of intrinsic self worth or intrinsic self value. It's easy to do if you're self and inward focused at the same time. Being cocky isn't the same as being confident. I have seen lots of guys be cocky about women and it gets detected as fake or not genuine, causing them to be rejected most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:44 AM
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Seriously, wtf does that mean? It means one shouldn't go after super hot girls off the bat, but more average looking ones. Haha keep living in your dream world. Drunk sluts probably have less standards in college than high school. The very idea your claiming I live in a dream world perfectly proves my point. You are unable to imagine any possible scenario because you don't have the experiences to make them seem credible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:42 AM
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That no matter what they say they can't change who you are. Correct, but you cannot simply think this, without the positive build up of experiences. You will lose this train of thought the moment a test comes up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:35 AM
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Hmm so what's the alternative, exactly? The alternative is to seek out scenarios with women that have the most positive affirmation for men first then move onto more hotter, or higher risk of rejection girls. Just saying your "high school girls that are innocent and just experimenting" I never used the word "innocent", that's your strawman. I was meaning to say that experimentation means they will do wild sexual acts, but they won't have as a high of a standard of whom to do it with as they woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:31 AM
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You're thinking of the blackpill. blackpillers seem like another sandwich of incels and MGTOW
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:24 AM
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So you can "fake it"? Looks like you didn't read my OP. I am claiming you can fake it, but that fake will be susceptible to errors and misbehavior, leading to rejection. Keep telling yourself that. I know girls that were having bondage sex at 17. What on earth does bondage have to do with this question?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:21 AM
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heavy IOIs, flirting etc. basically in the early puberty they get tons of interest from girls which kickstarts their confidence with women. Yes, there are non-sexual instances of positivity as well. for eksample on of the chaddest guys i knew was outright asked to fuck his female classmate when they were both 14. After such eksperience its not really hard to be confident that you are attractive Bare in mind though a lot of girls in the pre-college ages (<17) are simply just experimental with sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:16 AM
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Yea they're not "faking until making" it though. Sure they are, if they have no experience. Faking just means assuming in your mind something is true about you when it isn't. There used to be this guy in my high school that bragged about banging 120 girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:13 AM
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Faking it can get you through the gate. In job interviews, I could act the part and get the job even if I was vastly underqualified. Sometimes with dates you can do that, and you can get laid by acting the part. Right, you can definitely fake it, or attempt it. Overtime, if your successful enough, it will take build and become natural. It's like this with any activity. The thing I am pointing out is no man can instantly attain abundance mentality, and TRP seems a bit overestimated on this part.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:11 AM
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Useless conjecture. How would you know if all you know is "sexual confidence"? Because you can act like it initially and find an easier to get positive experience. Anyways how do all those high school chads have all the confidence with no experience? There are no high school chads, not when you live with your parents lol. At the high school level girls are really just experimental and have a far lower threshold for looks or confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:10 AM
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Really what one needs to do is find something to believe in passionately, if you buy it and and can sell it, then you can come off as extremely confident. Disagree here. I have had a lot of tech or STEM friends in college which were incredibly passionate about programming or some language they program in. It did come off as confident to other tech guys, but they all acted timid and soft around women still.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 05:55 AM
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No I may not directly know her, but because she's where I am she's someone I share much in common with. Part of the same group in many ways, at the least, the same city called home. No offense, but this is totally disconnected from reality. A lot of women might say it's creepy if someone starts talking to you on the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:49 PM
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Do you agree that bystanders are complicit in crimes they could have helped prevent? Obviously not. There is no way to reasonably prove a bystander could have prevented a crime from occurring. It's still part of male duty and honor to protect those of his group from unreasonable attacks, especially if they're weaker than he is. In the past this was true because men were rewarded with sex for doing so. Now that men are not entitled to sex this doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 09:46 PM
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The problem with your definition of coercion is that most women in their default state aren't wanting to have sex. In fact consent is really separate from desire. You can consent to something you don't have the desire for to see if it's pleasurable or not. Mixing desire and consent is a very bleak road.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:17 PM
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Again, this is about what people believe are legitimate means of obtaining consent. A major BP argument, for example is anytime a woman says she isn't in the mood, any further attempt to escalate is intimidation which is rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:49 PM
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Nope, A woman can be somewhat overweight and still be called "thick" or have more feminine features than a woman who is the correct weight for her height.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:27 PM
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All fun tidbits you could learn by actually reading the study. Most of his insane comments got removed, thankfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 02:20 PM
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Harassment is not the rape category, those two are separate. Calm down with your reading ability attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 02:09 PM
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https://president.utexas.edu/messages/results-of-sexual-assault-survey
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:21 AM
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https://president.utexas.edu/messages/results-of-sexual-assault-survey
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:21 AM
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https://president.utexas.edu/messages/results-of-sexual-assault-survey
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:21 AM
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These are actual scenarios considered coercion by some college consent campaigns and feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 08:15 AM
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These are just random surveys, so anyone can punch in whatever they want. The randomness really isn't the problem, it's more so the lack of boundaries toward defining their target. Including "threatening to end the relationship" in with rape is like including disturbing the peace in with terrorist attacks.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 07:02 AM
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They must not be faking very hard, cause I can see through them without being in a close relationship with them. Are you a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:56 AM
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but over on TRP it's much more on the EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM IS A WHORE side If a whore means has slept with 50 guys or something yea that's blatantly false. But if it simply means girls have done more wild things then they let on it's not false. Girls turn into different people with some booze and gym bros in a party.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:55 AM
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I wonder if most of their partners came before the marriage (sleep around young and then settle down, become unhappy then divorce) or after (settle down early, divorce because you're unhappy, sleep around after to make up for lost time). Given that the numbers are substantially lower for those who are currently married and cohabiting, no, at least not from this survey.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:52 AM
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I don't really understand what you mean, are you saying assertive/confident men are the only ones who give women unwanted sexual attraction? No. Its much more likely, in any given situation, that a man will express the first sexual interest toward a woman, than a woman would express it first toward a man. The man on average is far more assertive. This is true because women are always getting "hit on", while the amount of men getting unsolicited attention from women is much lower. Giving someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 06:51 AM
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and neither are many men. If that were actually true there wouldn't be a massive difference in the amount of unwanted sexual attention women receive versus that of men. Also its facetious to claim men aren't significantly stronger than women on average. so they're attracted to the flashy, artificial, superficial versions many people use to cover up their insecurities Ah the usual insecurity black and white argument. Gotta love when people keep patching that in wherever they like. It's a meaningl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:46 AM
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Your using a false definition of what superior means. A woman being feminine is inferior in power or confidence to a man being masculine. The whole idea here is women want a man whom is much more confident, strong, and assertive than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 11:04 PM
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You can't not believe in beta, it's like saying no man in the world acts timid or nervous or unsure to go for what he wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:24 PM
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Only 1/3 of adolescents are overweight, and only 1/3 of adults as a whole are obese, so no clue where your getting your numbers. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/health-statistics/overweight-obesity Plus she's white, blond, big tittied, None of those inherently mean she is objectively hot. Many guys like Asian girls or Latin girls more, or prefer big asses to big tits, or dark hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 02:19 PM
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I guess the most interesting finds are: There is a massive correlation between divorce and promiscuity, 47% of divorced men and 18% of divorced women have over 15 lifetime partners Across the board, there are more male virgins at every age then female virgins.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 06:36 AM
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Are you a thick girl? Like big ass but small waist?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 05:20 AM
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Bare in mind, by saying "women don't have equal access to resources" your pushing the very thing your questioning and against in your OP. Your categorizing women as a collective hivemind.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:34 AM
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Something your forgetting is that feminist pushes the idea that women are a collective being more so than men think this themselves. They push the idea all women are victims, they are all frightened by walking outside and getting raped, or that all women are discriminated against in the workplace etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/17 03:32 AM
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The researchers, who evaluated data from 132,515 adults, ages 21-60, looked at overall life span trends in the "Big Five" personality traits--conscientiousness, agreeableness, neuroticism, openness and extraversion. There is no logical reason to believe a sample of 132,000 is not sufficient for this study or this information. You are desperately trying to reject excellent evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 11:14 PM
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I just explained how the average woman isn't a real concept a few comments up. But by this logic it's ok to call out women who say they want nice guys right? Cause we can't read their minds that they only want nice attractive guys ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:37 PM
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It's called context. Seems like you haven't heard of it ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:31 PM
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The vast majority of millennial are not married, like 85% of them. Unless you have a source your claim is baseless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:26 PM
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In the US young women already outearn young men. uhhhh They earned less than millennial men in all but one state — New York. Between 2011 and 2013, young women in the Big Apple made $38,319, while men earned $37,542. And again, $38,000 or so in newyork is nothing. Literally nothing. Your thinking of the upper class, not people as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:16 PM
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If "where have all the good men gone?" is really a question women are asking why aren't they googling it? I mean your aware people don't google questions that often right? Like nobody googles "why is donald trump a bad president?", they google "donald trump tweets" https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=why%20is%20donald%20trump%20a%20bad%20president,donald%20trump%20tweets
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:12 PM
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Are you aware google trends monitors the direct searches, not the amount of articles or discussion that exists on the internet, right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:04 PM
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Type in where have all the good men gone in Google and read the hundreds of articles yourself. You realize trends just monitors searches, not the amount of webpages dedicated to a topic right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 06:02 PM
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However, the person I was responding to, who was talking about the average woman, is not from NYC or anywhere similar to it. See this is the problem with BP arguments. Your abstracting the concept of average to some expansive, totally encompassing idea that includes everyone from nuns to grannies in every corner of the globe. Look, no one cares about every single woman, or man or person. When someone says average, they are talking about the reasonable breadth of people they interact with, or in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:56 PM
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How do you claim you were promiscuous, yet never had a one night stand or only had 3 boyfriends ? You just had a lot of FwBs then?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:49 PM
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That's likely your confirmation bias. The amount of articles about women complaining wher ehave the good men gone says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:46 PM
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Your rejecting a highly credible source from a reputed and peer reviewed psychological institution. It's no different than saying one shouldn't trust what a cardiologist says about heart disease.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 05:44 PM
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Her nose is huge. She is average for the NYC party and club scene yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:44 PM
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For NYC it's close to average yes. It's a very liberal town and not unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:42 PM
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It's funny you sound like Trump when he is trying to explain something he has no proof of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:40 PM
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Your attempting to argue any study which uses self reported data, like any study cannot contain accurate data due to bias. That's called "ignorance".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:21 PM
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I'll have a look, but I think what's probably happening is that the conversational concept of "personality" covers a multitude of specialized topics within the field and researchers will likely have far more specific language to describe what's at issue. You really love making excuses, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:19 PM
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I haven't experienced the level of disrespect and abuse I'm warned about by TRP for my promiscuous ways. Well probably because your not intermixing the desire for commitment if you put out sex for a guy easily. That's where the pumping and dumping comes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:14 PM
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Because no one is going to be happy living in a studio or small place with roommates their whole lives? Again, think in the big picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 02:11 PM
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A woman being with you becuase you provide her financial assets is nowhere near the same as a woman being with you becuase you make her wet and horny. Outside of college hookups these two are never mutually exclusive. Your under the false assumption a woman cannot be horny for a man who also provides financial resources. Also your contradicting yourself when you say women don't date down in terms of income. Even cops get cucked and it's not like cops make a great deal of money to begin with. Cop…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/17 03:08 AM
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Well I agree with you, but this effectively negates the idea there is no use for men. Also the amount of beta bucks outside software engineers is greatly overestimated. Have you seen how buff cops are ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:58 PM
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Again, men's interests are irrelevant here. And I'm not even sure what you're saying with "at a further age." If a large amount of men do not want to get married, than a large amount of women cannot get married. You are assuming the woman always gets what she wants, this is a fallacy. Have you just been ignoring all those where have the good men gone articles about women complaining about being alone and not being able to land the men they want ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 11:56 PM
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They don't have to deal with men they don't want The vast majority of women cannot afford a decent lifestyle without a second income in the household. your vastly under-estimating the cost of expenses one person has to cover. all that women are actualy doing quite well for themselves relative to men. The average personal salary in the US is $36,000. there is no significant difference in salary between men or women. Also consider the amount of women going into humanities majors.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:56 PM
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There is no evidence women and not men are driving marriage rates at a further age. Your perspective is a fallacy since it assumes that women can never desire something a man does not. This is why I am saying it's a low value man perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:49 PM
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I made the claim that women are increasingly willing to substitute non-romantic forms of companionship (e.g. pets, friends, family) for LTRs and marriages. That's exactly what this article says. But if men are doing this more than women its not a gendered issue. Men appear to be driving the anti-marriage change too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:35 PM
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That's laughable -- $20/hour is $3200/month, and there are plenty of apartments in major metro areas that go for less than that. You do realize one cannot safely afford rent more than 50% of their income right? Have you ever even rented a place outside of college? did you also forget about taxes? Seems like it. Average LA rent is 2100-2300 for a one bedroom https://www.rentjungle.com/average-rent-in-los-angeles-rent-trends/ And she doesn't need a 2-bedroom for herself, anyway. Plus there's alway…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 10:32 PM
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The vast majority of self proclaimed incels though are not incredibly hideous men though. Most are average guys with heavy nerd hobbies. There are a couple incels whom posted here who are successful software engineers in Silicon Valley. What appears to be a more consistent pattern among them though is a lack of sexual experience in the early stages of life, like 16-20. My theory is this contributes to a neurologically locked mindset that inhibits them from wanting to improve or thinking they can…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:46 PM
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Which post ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 05:10 PM
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Low-value men aren't sitting around crying about not being able to bang the hottest girl Never heard of MGTOW? Or incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:50 PM
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Wrong. While I first want to say I don't think there will be no place for men in the future, this part of the argument is mind boggling. You are %100 dead wrong about men giving a shit about the socioeconomic status of women when it comes to the dating/hookup/ons/etc scene. And I never said they did.... I said that the women used to exemplify that women don't need men in the long run of life are extremely privileged upper class women. I mean did u not look at the pictures I linked? Wrong again, …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:44 PM
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If men on average earn more there isn't going to be 80% of women in a higher socioeconomic status than men..... And your basing your theory off of exactly what I originally said, the college hookup culture of upper class females.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:28 PM
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Nobody said one is incapable, just that bias is present. What your not getting is that most things are not seen, they are concluded from some thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 03:00 PM
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Why the fuck would being at the bottom mean you are blinder than someone in the middle or at the top. Because your motivated by your own goals and not the actual state of whats going on. The people at the bottom will view reality in a perspective that takes responsibility off themselves and puts it on others. This happens in any arena of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:46 PM
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Let me guess, u didn't read the whole article? Millennial men, it turns out, are more likely to look for companionship in pets. Among those surveyed, 71 percent of men between ages 18 and 34 had dogs (versus 62 percent of women), while 48 percent had cats (versus 35 percent of women). “Men are more willing to put in the time and effort of taking care of a pet,” said Rebecca Cullen, an analyst at Mintel. “Women are more likely to feel they are away from home too much and that pets require too muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:42 PM
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But most young women can and do treat themselves to a nice purchase every now and then, a few weekends at a lake or in another city visiting friends, and drinks after work with the girls. And so are most men. Do men not go out to bars with the guys? they don't need men in the sense that it's hard to find a partner for casual sex. Most women don't think of men as sources of casual sex, this is male thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:38 PM
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They perceive them as having qualities that they by definition can't, as a group, have. Attraction is entirely based by perception. Once your not talking about perception your just mentally mastirbating if you want to discuss what exactly people are attracted to. They perceive them as having qualities that they by definition can't, as a group, have. Oh yea, like Rihanna isn't s mature woman right? Or rappers wives? What about women who date guys full of tattoos. Again, your applying qualifiers h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:24 PM
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The average young woman is able to rent a decent apartment, Where is your proof of this? The average income needed to rent a 2 bedroom apartment in most states is above $20 an hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:20 PM
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Childless millennial women outearn their male counterparts in every major city except Silicon Valley. Going to need a source on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:16 PM
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How are man not needed in first world countries? Even in the USA there is overall women making the same or less than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 02:15 PM
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There are plenty of women who live this lifestyle now, and no sign that it's becoming less popular. Links please.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:07 AM
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Billy Beta isn't making enough to improve her lifestyle that much -- she's doing fine on money anyway Can I understand where you get the idea the economy is so great women are able to afford everything and buy a house all on their own? Like seriously do you have any proof of this outside of rich girls from San Francisco ?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:05 AM
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Again, your talking about a very small portion of society existing primarily in upper class towns and parts of the world. The vast majority of the world has men making most of the money. There is no country in the world where women on average make more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 09:02 AM
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I don't think feminists do believe that gender is entirely a social construct, or certainly not the majority of them. By virtue of believing "women can do anything men can" you are essentially believing gender is a completely social construct.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 06:51 AM
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So they actually are pretty immature and pathetic? Why are you appealing to emotion? This changes nothing to whether women like bad boys or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/17 04:58 AM
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What's your point? Chad is meant to symbolize a man who creates instant lust in women. You appear to not understand what chad means. Chad is a healthy functioning human being whose body can be acquired through a bit of exercise. Again, unless the qualifier alone makes you want to jump into bed with such a man that is not chad. The woman you presented is mostly plastic and is probably in extreme pain just trying to lay down in a bed. It's funny when people make up things about people they don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 10:46 PM
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So you instantly want to hop in bed with a man who can run 4 miles pretty quick ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:59 PM
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Fantasy does not mean cannot exist in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:58 PM
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Your defining Chad as some sort of genetic novelty. In reality it's just a man who instantly inspires an intense amount of lust in a woman. Natural beauties aren't sex dolls, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 08:58 PM
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What does natural mean in this context ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:14 PM
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meanwhile literally everything about her looks is fake Your point is?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:58 PM
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because your alleging no man is turned on by fake looking women when most porn stars are fake looking and trashy looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:51 PM
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Oh ok, but this whole discussion of Chad is only talking about fucking. That's what Chad is about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:39 PM
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That woman has large breasts but they are just large. I mean this woman is the worlds biggest https://www.kingwood.com/message_board/forumimgs/900778566487134.jpeg
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:38 PM
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Have you ever even watched porn? I am very curious. Did you ever take a peek at what the women look like?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:35 PM
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What I am trying to say is if the two girls linked made a move on you, you would definitely be interested. This is how guys that talk like u always play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:32 PM
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People are denied employment based on clothing every single day. There is a reason u dress up for interviews ....
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:30 PM
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Yea LA and the Bay Area have different demographics it seems. But in general in prom videos most women are not skinny. They are more towards Kate upton or similar body style with some curves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:27 PM
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What your saying is virtue signaling. It's the same as when a girl says she would never be with a gym guy or a guy with tattoos because he looks like a loser, then when they actually meet said person end up sleeping or getting with him. in reality, the girl you linked won't really be noticed in a party or social venue more than the two girls I linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:24 PM
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Kate Upton is fat? Are you from china or some Asian country ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:19 PM
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that's like saying a Victoria secrets model has a body most girls can acquire with some exercise. You don't understand what a Chad is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:18 PM
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Wouldn't it mean the Chad doesn't exist? Obviously not. Men with 8 or 9 inch dicks exist. football players exist Maybe you should clarify what ideal means to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 07:00 AM
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I am not saying she looks like the average latina/black woman, I was disagreeing this woman's proportions are "comic sized". Also, shouldn't Chad have an ideal body as well? No he would have a fantasy body, or one well above what is ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:52 AM
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her proportions are comic size. Her proportions are normal for any curvy woman or black/laitna woman. Sure there should be some more fat on her belly to balance it out, but that's not comic sized. Every single study on the ideal body type that I've seen points to women with bodies similar to that of a Playboy model Were not talking about the ideal body type, were talking about the female equivalent of a chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 06:32 AM
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She looks so trashy. And very obvious plastic surgery. Gotta love when women throw other women under the bus.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:40 AM
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don't know how many guys would feel like they settled Well no they don't "settle" in terms of taking whats available. I am just trying to show a comparison that the standard of attractiveness for males isn't swayed like it is for females.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:35 AM
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yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:34 AM
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nz. Oh dude then i 100% understand why u see it this way. NZ and USA party scene are totally different worlds.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:08 AM
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That IG model is not even close to top tier. Well thats your opinion, 6.5m followers on instagram puts you very close to the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:05 AM
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When it comes to real life, most of today's young adults report some casual sexual experience. The most recent data suggest that between 60 percent and 80 percent of North American college students have had some sort of hook-up experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:04 AM
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kate upton is waaaaaaaaay more attractive than them lol Sure. And any man you know will never sleep with her. So they choose these girls instead. Make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 05:01 AM
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Are you a girl by any chance? Everything you said is wrong, well, for me personally and every dude i know. Nope, lifter and former frat bro in college. What country do you live in?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:59 AM
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They are average for a greek party yes. They are the standard of what a guy would call "attractive" in his everyday life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:58 AM
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im interested because i see all these posts on incel forums Do not use incels to make an inference on the general male or female population. These are the fringe of society males which are suffering from mental distress more than anything else. it doesn't seem like girls care at all about status for hookups Where do you get this idea?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:56 AM
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No. First of all, the female interest in chads is really just a explosion of lust for a man. Most men, don't have insane lust for women like Kate Upton, because she isn't a sexualized woman. This ig model would be more along the equivalent of a female chad. The difference in the male and female attraction is that men are more attracted to the ease of the sex, rather than the woman in question. Meaning, a guy will settle for these girls he meets at a party because they will act and behave more se…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 04:53 AM
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Mind giving some links to where parents or teachers show the desire to force men to take medication ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:35 AM
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Please lay out exactly how men are being persecuted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 01:06 AM
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The only way I see that happening is through income equality, We already tried income equality. Like entire income equality. You know, Mao and Stalin? It didn't turn out well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 01:01 AM
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it's only logical to assume that someone that would break the rules to coerce someone into sex would also break those same rules to punish them for not giving them sex. There is nothing logical at all about that. That's no different than saying any guy who offers you to buy weed will punch you if you don't. Which is why such authority figures usually aren't allowed to even have regular sex with their subordinates without getting accused of abusing their power. There is no rule regarding authorit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 12:55 AM
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what do you mean implied? How or why would one know? There's no implication about consent. Unzipped pants aren't implying consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:46 PM
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ademic or work performance or creating a hostile environment”.8,9 In this report, we include gender harassment (unwanted sexist behavior) within sex-ual harassment since Title IX protection extends to students who experience gender harassment or sex-ual harassment.10 Sexual harassment of students at IHEs is well-documented in the literature and con-tinues to be affirmed by the recent results of campus climate surveys across the United States. This is on page 13 or 14. They include non sexual gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:20 PM
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If there is no negative consequence for not taking him on the offer this isn't an issue. There is no coercion because there's no negative consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:19 PM
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The probability of this happening is still less than 30%, but not impossible. I think the fact that its with a college feminist makes it more likely, since they are the most slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:07 AM
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Why an apron with nothing on underneath is "50s" is beyond me I think it says the girl was a college feminist, so any woman wearing an apron to them is 50's
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:04 AM
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It's mostly devoid of details so it's hard to say Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 05:01 AM
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Can you give an example of this? Like one that commonly occurs. Part of the idea of being RP and believing RP is accurate does seem to be you would also believe women don't do or mean some of the things they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 04:37 AM
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more sex within a relationship than just casual sex How do you define casual sex personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/17 03:43 AM
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Asking repeatedly, threatening to break up with her, buying her things to get laid, all these could be called rape by their guidelines. It's amazing to me the degree to which analytical thinking is completely absent from these surveys. I mean nearly all relationships of any kind involve buying or paying some things for the girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:08 PM
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I don't want to be with a guy that has been with a lot of girls. Why not? What is your opinion of men not wanting to be with promiscuous women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:04 PM
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Why are women so turned on by "mystery" and "mysterious" men? What's the appeal there? What is the nature of the attraction to that? It's a misuse of the term mysterious. Women are horrified or frightened by entirely mysterious men. I mean look at the creep epidemic sweeping social media. What women are actually into is attractive men who hide details about themselves in conversation in an attempt to procure the woman's interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:14 PM
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It only really makes sense if she asks someone with greater physical strength or height. The issue here is your implying a desire or preference is only valid if it adheres to some standard of capability or necessity. It's like you don't understand mentally people love it when somethings are done by other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:11 PM
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Let's put it this way. The standards for an LTR are higher in terms of the number of things a woman considers for a man needing to have. There's a wider range of expectations. However, this absolutely doesn't mean the individual requirements in a man are all higher. They aren't. Women benefit differently from an STR(casual sex, short dating, etc.) then they do from an LTR. It's very likely the standard for sexual attractiveness is lower than if a woman is looking for just a fun fling. "if you th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:47 PM
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that you expect others to get you out of. At least 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:40 PM
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that you expect others to get you out of. Does a woman wanting a man to kill a spider or rodent for her bother you? Im curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:39 PM
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I can't copy and paste off the report for some reason but they count it as coercion (rape) if you threaten to end the relationship, make false promises, or repeatedly ask her for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:53 PM
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Didnt you make this same stupid thread a couple weeks ago? Didn't you make this same stupid comment like yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:51 PM
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It means "sexual harassment". How do you know? Sexual harassment is only defined in law to occur in a workplace. What is the need to attach "attention" to the phrase?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 04:45 PM
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Don't bother arguing with gender-deniers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:12 AM
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That way, as a collective, we can get much more done, and waste less resources trying to 'rescue' people who should have just learned to help themselves in the first place. This is a meaningless argument. You could say the same thing about getting wasted, smoking weed, hooking up, making loads of cash. News flash, people don't live for the collective, they live for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:10 AM
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How can you believe this It's the apex fallacy. It's somehow deluding yourself to think the average nerd is this guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:36 AM
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You need to understand that slut walks are like 1% of the total population max. That doesn't prove much about the rest of women That and there primary inspiration is combating the way women dress with sexual assault, really nothing to do with promiscuity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:30 AM
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When did men start owning women again. Gotta love that strawman! He never even said the word owned, LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:28 AM
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I was poly when we met and went monogamous for him. Do you feel you may miss your former lifestyle once monogamous? At some point in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 06:26 AM
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No, your not looking at the 3rd and most important graph. https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/2000/0*rRhMB4YoU-HURGeE.png At every level of attractiveness, a woman received more messages than a man did. It never crossed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 10:43 PM
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All my average friends have had plenty of dates. This is not the same as claiming almost all men date multiple women and sleep with them at the same time. Meaning in a given say, 2 week period you would have dated 2 or more women and slept with 2 or more. You should really clarify exactly what you mean here. Even the weirdo ones could have plenty of dates if they'd stop being super introverted weirdos. That's like saying poor people could have so much money if they stopped being poor. Nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 05:36 AM
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I mean hell how does any man not end up dating multiple women when he's looking for the right fit If your saying you were dating these women at the same time and having sex with them this is NOT close to the average man's experience. Most average men have a single long term girlfriend at a time or be single for periods of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/17 04:57 AM
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Wait, this was a guy you hooked up with multiple times that made u walk back home ?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 10:43 PM
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Why is this post allowed to be up? It's obviously not in good faith or not possible to change their view. No one actually thinks most women would prefer all men be asexual. Not even college feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 10:24 PM
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We're not talking about hookups, just dating/relationships. Your going to have to clarify where your drawing the line between the two here. What about casual dating? Like a woman goes on a date or two with a guy, has sex, then tries another dude, has sex, takes a break, meets another dude. And that's really where the line is drawn. Someone who cares a lot about their appearance is more likely to attract someone else who also cares about their appearance. And coincidentally, because they both car…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/17 06:11 AM
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I agree with your last sentence. Can you elaborate by what you mean by "hang around"? What kind of locations, doing what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 11:52 PM
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they don't and wouldn't because that's counter to how universities work. I am assuming you just haven't read the news lately cause you don't normally post opinions like this. http://www.businessinsider.com/list-of-disinvited-speakers-at-colleges-2016-7 or more in specific: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/317484-uc-berkeley-cancels-milo-yiannopoulos-after-violent-protests-break-out-on http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/04/11/uc-berkeley-presses-campus-republicans-to-cancel-another-conserva…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 10:46 PM
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Yea, lawyers and school officials inspecting evidence means nothing right ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:18 PM
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have a long history of wanting to uphold "free speech principles" even if they technically are permitted to limit it on school grounds. Not anymore. Did you miss the Riots at Berkeley?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:17 PM
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They are a university. They harbor academic thoughts that they do not necessarily agree with, as is typical of a university. Nope private entities can prevent you from Speaking or even being on their property. Your statement is also extremely ignorant as universities like Columbia regularly reject conservative speakers from speaking on campus. But that's BP rose glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:16 PM
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I think he is saying that suing the girl would like make his public image worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 09:13 PM
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Yea but your "talking about it makes it awkward" thing proves women can't really convey what turns them on sexually in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 08:09 PM
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Validation in that a really hot man is paying attention to her. Affirmation of her worth and value as a woman that s This. I don't get where BP comes up with the idea it's not validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:21 PM
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Nice straw man as usual.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 07:20 PM
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Which means? are you also claiming it happens in identical frequencies in both ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:29 PM
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Your point is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:14 PM
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But I mean you never had a friend who just slept with a guy but got upset when he wouldn't commit to her ?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 04:58 PM
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Emma filed a rape claim with the police around a year after the alleged incident took place, claiming that Paul violently pinned her down during otherwise-consensual sex and anally penetrated her. Yea and that's what Emma also did.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:47 PM
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Ok, so what is an FWB to a woman the first time she sleeps with him? I mean do you actually think she knows them that well?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:46 PM
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Never had to listen to a woman complaining about not getting a man's commitment, so eh, maybe. Yea it appears your perspective is either ignorant or bias, I recommend reading some of those "where have the good men gone?" Articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:42 PM
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Men open to the idea of casual sex on a given night should outnumber the women open to it that very same night All people whom are reasonably single are open to casual sex with the right person. I mean, White House interns have lost their virginity to JFK, and this was many years ago. In the same idea, no woman or man is universally open to casual sex. There looking for sex with the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:40 PM
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What do you mean by sex just happens?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:29 PM
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But why are you assuming they have a singular boyfriend? What does really hot mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:26 PM
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False rape reports are crimes, you should know that. http://www.wsbtv.com/news/georgia/georgia-student-charged-with-false-report-of-rape/532596797
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 02:24 PM
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Lol that's fucking ridiculous. Claiming women act exactly how they say they would, or hell, anyone acts how they say they would, without differing due to being aroused is ridiculous. This is an excellent example of female virtue signaling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 06:16 AM
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Attractive women don't need to pick up strangers at parties. We can text our vetted fuck buddies if we want casual sex You didn't read what I said. If a woman feels some guy is a stranger, or doesn't feel comfortable about him, she won't have sex with him. However, if a woman is truly attracted and aroused by a guy she meets, she will no view him as a stranger even if he is one technically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:27 AM
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lmao please, the girls who aren't in relationships have hot FWB's with status, who seek them out So your claiming girls don't hook up at parties? You really sure that sounds logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:23 AM
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why in the world would they fuck some random guy Seems you haven't partied much. Girls don't have sex with guys they feel are rando's, they have sex with men that are hot and just come into them, charming etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 11:44 PM
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Ah, perhaps I used it incorrectly? Well that would depend if you usually slept with every person you dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 03:45 AM
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I wouldn't initiate a break up unless there was some issue or because I couldn't see us having a future together. But so what does casually dating mean? that term is normally used where people date multiple people or with no terms of commitment that don't last long.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 02:54 AM
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Why not join a frat?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 12:12 AM
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and my companionship was/is not a charity service for some chump who decided to grow some balls and speak to a woman. Do you believe the high amount of men who hit on you has contributed to your self confidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:47 PM
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Before getting married, I was a serial monogamist, so same answer. But if you aren't married and dated casually what would stop you from breaking up with one guy and getting with another?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 11:43 PM
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It's not mentally sound to believe a woman wouldn't like being called beautiful from a man she is attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:05 PM
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Yea I mean I have no clue how TBP imagines up all these men like thinking about s girls job or hobbies when they look at her ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:47 PM
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I am saying they don't call it dehumanizing. I acknowledge they get upset about it. Men don't feel the need to compare their struggles to those of African countries with child soldiers raping women in broad daylight which the UN deems a rape culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:42 PM
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http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2574109
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:40 PM
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Feminists aren't talking about the objectification of labor, they are talking about sexual objectification. I'm responding to the user above, not feminists. Nice try with a red herring though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:38 PM
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No one is calling that dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:35 PM
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Any sort of hookup would fall under the pretense of feminist sexual objectification. A man and a woman are only valuing each other for sexual purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:28 PM
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When you think of a person as only having one attribute or purpose to you, it is dehumanizing. It is failing to see them as a complex individual such as yourself. So I'm curious, do you take the time to consider all of the other great parts and attributes your postman has? What about that guy that delivered your pizza? Your Uber driver?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:24 PM
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Women don't nessersarily care for sex it's self, What do you mean by this exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 05:18 PM
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Making inappropriate comments But what does inappropriate mean to you? In my other post there was a woman who thought commenting on a woman's appearance is rude and inappropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:54 PM
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Can you define cat calling? Some feminists would deem any man talking to a woman he doesn't know passing by cat calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:42 PM
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If a sexy art professor is explaining basic, self-evident stuff to a female student like she's five years old it's "Yes, Daddy". My god I actually have seen this happen when i was back at UCLA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:18 PM
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The OP is insisting the ptesident should be allowed to compliment women in a WORK SETTING. He never insisted this. If you see he did please link it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:10 PM
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He never said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:02 PM
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He never said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:02 PM
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He never said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:02 PM
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He never said that. Your imagining things that aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:01 PM
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He never said that. Your imagining things that aren't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 04:01 PM
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You contribute very little to the debate as per usual Ah gotta fallback on those personal attacks when your argument gets debunked huh? Marvelous! A few comments ago you can read OP saying exactly that The OP said the president should be allowed to compliment women. He never mentioned he should be able to do so all the time, or have any indication about the extent of this allowance. I would really recommend you take the time to understand what an adhominem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:47 PM
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You cant be all like "men should be allowed to compliment women all the time" No one said all the time. You misrepresented someone's argument which something it isn't. Look, a strawman is a logical fallacy. Stop trying to make logic out of a fallacy. Your making yourself look like a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:40 PM
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Read the definition of s strawman and you will see. an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. What your doing is like saying "oh if people should have guns to defend then themselves then it's ok for terrorists to have guns for defense too right ?"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:34 PM
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So you think its normal and appropriate to go to your boss and tell her that her ass is so nice? Nice straw man there!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 03:17 PM
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Can you find me how many positive articles CNN has aired about Trump?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:50 PM
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If by "approach" you mean hit on, then only in appropriate contexts You literally spent 30 comments saying it's never appropriate to comment on a woman's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:49 PM
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Do you not even know the Facebook algorithm only displays posts in your newsfeed that you would seem interested in reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 02:39 PM
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It's a straw man to correlate cat-calling with giving a woman a compliment. This is not about cat-calling.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:53 AM
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I believe you should discuss my ideas not me. Uhhhh, that's exactly what I did..... So you believe your ideas can't be flawed or incorrect? don't use ad hominem. No comment at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:41 AM
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The news article you linked wasn't suggesting there was anything wrong. So your alleging there's no sort of bias going into what's getting reported and what isn't? Only Reebok, a sportgood company that doesn't produce news articles, voiced that opinion. Yea sorry social media is still media. That's a facetious idea of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:31 AM
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So you believe your ideas can't be flawed or incorrect? I honestly recommend staying away from debate subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:28 AM
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That's just an assumption about me If your not open to other people's assumptions stop making them about all other women and attempting to speak for them. turned it back against you just to show you how meaningless it was. Thus tu quoque. So, your saying a logical fallacy is logical. Never thought this day would come.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:27 AM
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you did, you chose to attack me first. You said "According to whom? You? Are you the Ultimate Arbiter of What Women Everywhere Want? Of course you fucking aren't." If you feel this is somehow a personal attack you shouldn't be debating here. No one here has attacked your own personal attributes or characteristics. Read up on the rules it would benefit you a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:20 AM
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Like I've said, I think it's impolite to comment on a man or a woman's appearance. You literally just said on another comment it's impolite to only comment on a woman's appearance but not also do it to men. Lord.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:17 AM
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No, because a conference can be about any sort of topic. And you can compliment someone about any thing as well.....your point is? Knowledge fields are divided because people specialize. right but you just claimed specializing in only commenting on women's appearances is sexist. That's just showing some bad faith on your part. this is a logically fallacy called tu quoque You're the first to resort to personal attacks. I never attacked anything about you personally. Saying things like this really…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 08:16 AM
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How is it not sexist that Trump doesn't call Macron beautiful, but calls his wife beautiful? Because sexism has nothing to do with treating men and women the same. By this logic again, any sort of "women's" conference would be sexist as they aren't also talking about men and their issues. Your arguments are not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:37 AM
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That's not true. That seems like the fabulation of a man trying to justify why he cat calls women. Unsolicited is unsolicited. Nice strawman there! This discussion isn't about cat-calling women. Mind showing me some source for your claim there? Plenty show women feel less confident who don't get male attention http://friendswithbenefitssucks.com/2014/04/21/why-are-some-women-girls-so-thirsty-for-male-attention-in-2014/
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:34 AM
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don't call women beautiful since you don't know if they want your opinion on their appearance. Would you support a law that prohibits women from calling men handsome or buff or any sort of physically oriented comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:31 AM
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It makes you look like a sexist if you go around telling women they look beautiful and if you don't do the same to men. Sexism doesn't mean treating the sexes differently. By your logic it's sexist for victoria secrets not to sell men's underwear right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:29 AM
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people would inevitably question his intentions. In reality i suspect this is a case of anti-trump click bait cashing in by Reebok, given the majority of their ads, would by this logic be objectifying women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:27 AM
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if you don't say it and it was wanted, nothing happens. That's not true. Women in young ages and older ages complain also about a lack of male attention or not getting validated for looking good. This seems solipsistic of you. I don't see why this goes against male sexuality. Because your attempting to argue male approaching of women should be suppressed, whether its wanted or not. I really care about consent. I mean, are you saying you believe this should be a law? Like taking away free speech?…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:26 AM
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He's the president, don't you think it's inappropriate of him to make comments about women's bodies at this point? A respectful compliment? Not at all. On the contrary the fact he gave it to an older woman shows he is being considerate and kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 07:22 AM
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in reality, i suspect this is merely a anti-trump click bait cash in by reebok as most of their ads are literally just ass But I am just using this as a starting point for discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 06:46 AM
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That's correct, so i am curious why you have a default assumption that calling a woman beautiful is unwanted. I am enquiring this not to attack you, but because it relates to the idea that there does exist some anti-male sexuality perspectives in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 06:43 AM
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Is it part of men's sexuality to call women beautiful? You can think it, but why the need to say it? Uh, part of sexuality is expressing it toward other people. Like how women call men handsome. Why would it be part of men's sexuality to make people know they think they are beautiful? See the above. Why would she care about what he thinks of her looks? It's an unwanted opinion. That's your assumption. You have no proof a woman does or doesn't want this opinion. No. It's just impolite. So calling…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 06:24 AM
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And you were in a sorority right? It seems most ppd women are complete nerds.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 06:18 AM
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Men have higher sex drives than women, on average. This makes it so that women are much more willing to wait for the right relationship and not date down. Kind of, but not really. It's more so that women have a dormant-reactive relationship with their sex drives while men are simply active. Like if you made a woman interact with all short, fat guys for a week, in that week she isn't holding off, she just doesn't feel anything. Nothing is turning her on. There are more young men than young women.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 06:11 AM
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Exactly. But this seems insane. Why do you think women consent to sex? I'm curious. You can TELL her anything you want, but we are talking about ACTIONS and MOVES, not words. No, I said bold sexual moves in my OP. This can include a range of things. And even if you tell her what you want, you'll have to deal with consequences regarding what you said. Why are you assuming there are consequences? You seem to have a confirmation bias any possible move a man can make is non-consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/17 05:50 AM
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A guy is creepy when he's making any kind of move without consent Every female male interaction doesn't involve consent. You can't even get consent to tell a girl she is hot or beautiful. There's nothing to do with physical appearance. So your saying whether or not someone consents to something has nothing to do with physical attractiveness?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:27 AM
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aren't anywhere close to being cream of the crop, Lets see an example of your cream of the crop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 04:25 AM
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What belief system ?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:50 AM
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I think you need to clarify exactly what your trying to say underneath this. By this logic, a starving man in Yemen and a rich man who only dines at five star restaurants have the same desire and urge to eat food. No one would agree with this. If your trying to say a woman will agree to casual sex anytime that a high enough tier man comes along I absolutely agree with this, and BP underplays this by saying "oh most women aren't interested in casual sex". But your focus on the comparison to men i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/17 12:36 AM
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