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Certainly is an interesting topic. I imagine it depends on what your personal goals are. I have found in the past that I get turned off by a myriad of these types of beliefs, so I tend not to follow through. Fundamentally, I have a big problem with more extreme philosophies, whether it be feminism or TRP alike. That being said, I personally do maintain a personal philosophy to keep my mind open to these things. Who am I to judge an experience I have never had. I would like to believe that being …
/r/seduction11/11/15 05:01 AM
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If a girl finds you attractive, does that mean you are attractive to gay guys? It's always fun to speculate, but your question isn't exactly productive. If you really want to know, ask the guy hitting on you why he was doing so.
/r/seduction11/11/15 04:27 AM
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then follow up with her. but in the future, it would be wise to define the limits of your agreement with your friend more precisely. Maybe he doesnt care if you talk to her now, as he already has his money from when she went to the club the other night.
/r/seduction11/11/15 04:18 AM
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without context, you arent actually going to get a good answer. the tone of the conversation is key. Assuming there is a jovial manner, however, the dick joke comments here are spot on.
/r/seduction11/11/15 04:09 AM
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social media should strictly be used as a means to an end. Dont have lengthy conversations. "Hey, I had fun talking to you the other day. Im going to [get coffee/mall/errands/something you like to do] at [this exact time], you should join me" should suit you well.
/r/seduction11/11/15 04:05 AM
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Yes, every guy wants every chance to sleep with hot girls. If they go with you, obviously his personal agenda will be altered (whether or not it is sexual). Seems like an artificial wall put up to not have you as competition. If you have a go at these ladies, why not just them make the decision themselves? Reference experiences. That being said, I wouldn't step on toes if he is a friend or opens a lot of doors for you. Otherwise...
/r/seduction11/11/15 03:57 AM
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thats why i mentioned it was a vague comment. He posted in /r/seduction, so its not unreasonable to think that's what he is asking for. but my comment tried to touch on both conversation skills and address attraction as well.
/r/seduction10/04/15 09:48 PM
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I like to post on the interesting topics, and this is certainly one of them, but your post is also extremely vague. There are so many things that you could potentially be doing wrong (and right!) that lead you to your current situation. I should preface this comment with the fact that i am a straight male. I don't pursue men, but my presentation has passively attracted men in the past. I try to be a good conversationalist I cant lead you down any specific roads in terms of a technique that would…
/r/seduction10/04/15 07:31 PM
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I listen to music in the car, power pose, do whatever I can to get in state day game is different in that you dont have to be at a high energy level to do it effectively. In fact, having a high energy level can actually be detrimental to your overall results. Being on a similar level as the person you are talking to is a relate-able quality; I like to refer this idea as energy matching. In addition to this, there are expected energy levels for certain environmental interactions, ie. it is weird …
/r/seduction09/04/15 04:18 AM
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This is a difficult question to fully answer, so I will attempt to answer it with an analogy. "The game" is like poker. Your chips are your reputation. When you go out, most hands you get are mediocre at best. Every once in a while you get a good hand, but you end up betting conservatively because you dont want to lose all of your chips. You might win that pot, but the take is small compared to what it could have been. On the other hand, the guy across the table bluffs big on every hand he gets.…
/r/seduction07/04/15 04:56 AM
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not for me, but is sure is funny. But more likely i just have a terrible sense of humor.
/r/seduction04/04/15 05:34 PM
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It's still advice based on what will get the best results because the time is better invested elsewhere. I fundamentally disagree with this statement. Yes, you may statistically have a better chance of taking a girl home who does not say she has a boyfriend. If closing girls is how you measure results, then there isnt much to talk about. Im not saying this ideology is wrong, just saying that's not how i approach this topic. I prefer to measure success based on internal game development and menta…
/r/seduction04/04/15 05:24 PM
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Right, and I am saying that the ethical choice is in op's hands, not mine. Id rather not get into a debate on whether or not it is the "right" thing to do, but this is not what op asked for. Who am I to decide the best response is to just move on? Its only an opinion (probably the most popular opinion, but that doesnt make it absolute)
/r/seduction03/04/15 10:30 AM
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yes. On top of this, remember to use social proof to your advantage. This isnt the club, you should know a handful of the people there. If you want to meet someone, get someone to introduce you. Easy conversation starters, easy social proof, easy mood boosters
/r/seduction03/04/15 04:15 AM
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there are mental tricks you can do to convince yourself that the time is right for something. The reason why the kino ladder exists is not only to check compliance and escalate a physical connection, but it is also preparing YOU to close. When you are at the point where your face is 6 inches from hers, and her arms are around your neck, it FEELS natural and EASY to close that small amount of distance, as opposed to trying to kiss a girl when you are just sitting, talking, and not touching. The s…
/r/seduction03/04/15 04:07 AM
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holy moley this thread. op asked for what the response is to "i have a boyfriend", not "DONT FUCKING DO IT". Jesus.. I cant condone sniping a significant other, however, there are cases where girls say shit to dismiss you for various reasons, not in the mood, etc. "me too, come get a drink with me and we can talk about it". "who says you cant have two?" "but he would never take your hand and make you dance like this" It would be wise to change the topic immediately, however, unless you know for …
/r/seduction03/04/15 03:55 AM
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I was on Omegle and saw two 9s and didn't even know what the fuck to SAY 1) dont put girls on pedestals. 2) try thinking about this: the only number a girl should be is a 1 or a 0. you are either interested, or you are not. There is no such thing as a 9. let alone 2 of them. They are just girls. I was wondering what a confident, funny, or a guy they would like what say in that situation? what is a normal thing to say to someone when you meet them for the first time? I bet you do this occasionall…
/r/seduction02/04/15 03:31 AM
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I can get endless numbers from girls when i'm at a party(college) If this is truely the case, start to focus on quality rather than quantity. Focus on getting one or two of those numbers per night as a very solid rapport building, dominant framed, kino laddered conversation. a number is inherently worthless if it isnt backed by an emotion for her to remember you by. but i'm at a loss with what to do with it. it seems like you dont know what you want. If you dont know what you want, how can you e…
/r/seduction02/04/15 03:19 AM
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you need to look at this like she is handing you a blank canvas. You can paint whatever the fuck you want on it, as long as its captivating. Use your imagination to do something that demonstrates the skills this sub focuses on. "so what now?" "now im going for a walk, and youre coming with me" "so what now?" "now I will show you the way of my people", take her hands and waltz her around the room. you will find more things to talk about the more experiences you share together. Find an experience …
/r/seduction02/04/15 02:28 AM
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You should at least allude to setting up a second date at the end of the first, if you dont actually set up a second date. "we should do this again sometime" is not setting up a second date, its alluding to one. In this context, what i mean by logistics is the fact that you are unable to make another date within a reasonable amount of time. This is clearly opinion, however. "What is a good amount of time to wait between the first and second dates?" is a subjective question, but I will answer it …
/r/seduction02/04/15 02:19 AM
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Relax. Breathe. You seem to be having core issues with your life. Think of your life as a house. Building a strong foundation is a prerequisite to putting in the second floor king bed. Focus on you right now. What do you want to do with your life, and how you want to get there. Small steps first, then larger steps later. Once you are comfortable with yourself and your life, others will be able to be comfortable with you as well. Self help, motivational material, books, school, striving for a bet…
/r/seduction27/03/15 01:28 PM
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It's a fair comment. Personally I gave up thinking about this in particular a while ago. it's mental effort that gets me nowhere. As of yesterday my last post was 5 months ago. The sub hurt me more than it helped me, so I moved on.
/r/seduction27/03/15 12:12 PM
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the sub is called Seduction seduction for whom? When you crack open the can of worms seduction is, you end up branching out into a myriad of different categories. the term "seduction" is simply an umbrella; underneath it includes psych/social categories as well as physical. Self help is inherently a seduction technique. I would argue that cooking classes are also a seduction technique. Interpret it however you like. Im just some guy on the internet at 1am. And guys going into nice guy mode when …
/r/seduction27/03/15 04:47 AM
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start small. These are basic necessities for conversation. If you feel like you cant jump right in, take smaller steps the eye contact game is a good place to start. Whenever you make eye contact with anyone, guy or girl, stranger, friend, whoever, never be the one to break eye contact first. Make it a habit, and consciously hold eye contact. After you have this down, add a smile into the mix. Every time you hold eye contact, try to naturally smile. If they smile, say hello, "i know smiling is c…
/r/seduction27/03/15 04:32 AM
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this is not generic dating and relationship advice that applies to all genders and sexual identities. Or generic sex (or dating) advice, etc. yes and no. Yes, at face value, the topics focus on male oriented issues. On a more philosophical level, the ideals talked about here are for everyone, but the reader must remove the filter for it to be universally applicable. Unfortunately, there really isnt a good place for good non-gender specific life/dating/self improvement advice.
/r/seduction27/03/15 04:22 AM
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At face value, the number one rule about texting is to use it as a means to an end, strictly. however, there are circumstances where this rule has to be bent. This rule assumes that your logistics are sufficient. In this case, your logistics are not. I am also going to assume you know why to use texting as a means to an end as well. A second date in 10 days time without communicating with the girl is, well, not good by any standard. If you DONT text in that time period, you are screwing yourself…
/r/seduction27/03/15 04:12 AM
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Youre right. There is a high noise to signal ratio in the seduction community. It takes a long time to sort through the bullshit and find out what is and is not useful. That being said, many of the ideas thrown around in this sub are inherently bogus, but they do serve a purpose. The purpose is to overcompensate for a given issue: The idea of coming up with lines to say which you are reading directly from an internet post you read earlier in the day is such BS. Yes, lines are stupid, however, fo…
/r/seduction09/05/14 04:28 AM
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In contrast, checking could be interpreted as needy. These are two extreme ends of the spectrum. Ask yourself what a reasonable person would do if the date was completely plutonic. It is reasonable to remind someone of the details for logistical purposes. As long as you are within reasonable expectations and social assumptions, the choice you make is of little gravity.
/r/seduction08/05/14 09:42 PM
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First, don't take dating advice from girls. Second, what you are describing is not what your original post describes. In regards to the comment you just made, don't look into texting habits of people in general. There are too many confounding factors to close in on hard rules when it comes to texting. Don't overthink the situation. Assume attraction and use texting as a means to talk to her face to face. An in person conversation is where you build rapport, not over the phone.
/r/seduction08/05/14 06:21 PM
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I don't know what you are specifically looking to improve on. Talk to your girl about flirting with other girls. If you set a frame that you like to flirt but the flirting is benign, your girlfriend won't get upset and you get to improve your skills. Many people don't fully understand the concept of jealousy. Jealousy in a relationship is good in moderation; demonstrating that you are of high value and that other girls are attracted to you will strengthen your relationship with her as long as yo…
/r/seduction08/05/14 06:15 PM
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There is no end game to self-improvement and seduction. You can always have better conversation skills, make yourself more attractive, have more hobbies, and gain more experiences. None of these things are dependent on your relationship status. If you want to specifically focus on outer game, you can do two things: practice on your girlfriend, or practice on other girls. Although practicing approaches, kino, rapport, escalation, etc. on your girlfriend seems stupid because you already know the o…
/r/seduction08/05/14 05:24 AM
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Not necessarily. If you are squared to her and are clearly trying to have a conversation with her but she is on her phone for an extended period of time, there is a large chance she is not interested in you. That being said, context is key. What is she on her phone for? If it is to text her friends she is talking to someone and to go to the next bar without her, clearly being on her phone is a good thing for you. Generally, if you are trying to have a conversation with someone and they are on th…
/r/seduction08/05/14 05:07 AM
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There are no rules about this issue. If you are unsure of whether you are in the position to assume she is going to show up, always err on the side of checking, as opposed to not. Usually after 3-4 dates, the girl likes you enough to comply with your requests sufficiently.
/r/seduction08/05/14 04:57 AM
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Nice. Be a boss, however, some food for thought: She was a good 7.5 maybe 8. I would recommend not rating girls like this. It can turn into a way to justify not talking to a girl (ie. because she is only a 6.5 and not a 7 or higher on some arbitrary scale.). I find it helpful to rate girls as a 1 or 0. She is either attractive to you or she isnt. If she is, go see what she is like. It was completely cheesy but I said "Excuse me, do you feel an earthquake?" And she responded "no", then I said "Th…
/r/seduction08/05/14 04:30 AM
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If you are in a position where you are going down on a girl, she already likes you sufficiently. This sub is about how to get a girl to like you that much, not how to improve your sex skills. I do not intend to come off as crass; you may have better luck with this question elsewhere.
/r/seduction04/05/14 09:41 PM
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Depending on how attracted she is to you, varying degrees of bluntness can be applied. Usually if she is complaining to you, she has a significant degree of investment already established in you. hard callout: "Hey, look at me. Im here to have fun with you, not to listen to your problems. Lets talk about something else." tease: "I bet you're one of those girls who complains all the time, and I bet you get away with it because you have a pretty smile" appeal to empathy: "I understand how you feel…
/r/seduction27/04/14 10:02 PM
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There are too many confounding factors to profile someone, in general. If you were to profile girls based on who you thought looked/seemed promiscuous, you will be missing out on the ones who do not look promiscuous but are. Some girls dress like sluts to be attention seeking, not necessarily to take a guy home (though realistically, it is probably both to a certain degree). Some girls go out not wearing anything special, but are very good catches. The bottom line is if you are physically attrac…
/r/seduction27/04/14 09:47 PM
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but that's it because I was putting in 95% of the effort This may be what you think, but it may not represent what the thinks. In her mind, you both could be putting in equal amounts of gender roll effort. You do you, and if you like her, bring her along for the ride. If she doesnt demonstrate investment in you soon, next.
/r/seduction26/04/14 08:30 PM
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I can appreciate this analogy, however, I think it is not a good representation of pickup (in the context of what this sub prescribes) vs LTR Relationship building, whether it is long term or short term, is not a competition. You are not competing against a girl and taking something from her if you win. This mindset is warped. In this light: In a poker game, an LTR is showing a girl a few of your cards, and getting her to show you a few of her cards. All of these shown cards are hopefully combin…
/r/seduction26/04/14 08:24 PM
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A lot of my friends who have game talk about playing hard to get and keeping the mystery alive with a girl until they've snagged her. A lot of guys naturally know sort of what they are doing when it comes to this subject, but fail to explain what is going on and why they do what they do. Your friends may have "game", but that doesnt mean they know how to explain what they are doing properly. They say things like "let her come to you" this is misinformation. In general, dont do this. How do you k…
/r/seduction26/04/14 08:05 PM
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if you want to get better at social skills with girls, you have to apply them to girls in social settings. This is a bottom line. You dont have to actively flirt with girls you talk to. Try looking at other girls as just people who are looking to have a fun conversation with someone new. The more comfortable you become with these settings, the easier it is to let your mind flow and stop having to actively think about what you are going to say next. When you are comfortable, those around you will…
/r/seduction26/04/14 06:01 PM
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take her hand and wipe away your metaphorical tears with it. "Im a sensitive guy, I cant handle this roller coaster of emotions"
/r/seduction23/04/14 02:12 AM
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But when i'm the only one who's making an effort to talk to people and push myself, I can't shake the feeling that I am giving the appearance of looking needy and try-hard and desperate. So I hold back and try to play it smart. Yes, this is in fact a conundrum. I like to employ the "i dont know who that is, but she/he looks interesting. Im going to go see if he/she is as cool as i am" mentality. The appearence of being needy, try hard, and desperate is an entire topic of its own, as it is rather…
/r/seduction23/04/14 01:39 AM
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This is an imperative question to ask yourself: Would you date you? Honestly. If the answer is no, this is a good starting point. If the answer is yes, then why, and how can you make yourself even better? This topic is more or less covered in this sub. Just food for thought. I posted about what you are concerned with a few months ago, I would recommend reading all of it, as it is tailored to college students. http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction/comments/1yx502/how_to_make_friends_in_university_out…
/r/seduction23/04/14 12:41 AM
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This is very much a question pertaining to seduction. is this normal, or is there just something wrong with the way i am, or the way i'm doing things? yes, unfortunately. This is the way our society currently operates. Let me put something into perspective for you: Imagine you had the super power visually see right above an individual the text of what they were really thinking, from a social standpoint. Do you know what you would see 99% of the time? I have been trying to meet new people and it …
/r/seduction23/04/14 12:32 AM
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This should be a very exciting time for you. Just around the one year mark is when I, too, had a certain revelation that it IS possible to achieve what you may have previously thought to be unobtainable, socially. This can be an exponential growth phase for you. You're on a one way train to success, all you have to do is keep your foot on the gas.
/r/seduction23/04/14 12:11 AM
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Im not exactly sure what the details of your setting are, or what you do performance wise, but i am fairly certain you may be misinterpreting the situation. You are in a situation where people come to listen to you because they like what you represent and they see you performing. The crowd is already screened for similar interests and you are demonstrating a dominant role as well as handling social pressure by performing. The girls are going to want to talk to you, all you have to do is approach…
/r/seduction21/04/14 02:01 AM
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If there is any overlying principle this sub teaches, its to be the master of your own ship. Think about it this way: Worst case scenario: girl blows you off, and your former acquaintances will gossip about you. Best case scenario: girl finds you massively attractive, has sex with you/relationship because you like her so much. If you dont seize the opportunities presented to you in life, neither of these outcomes will ever happen. You can spend your entire life sitting on a couch watching TV whe…
/r/seduction08/04/14 02:31 AM
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The point is to find a generality, not a rule. Yes, their are some girls like that out there, but I would say the majority of women who are comfortable with their sexuality around you will be more adventurous than not.
/r/seduction07/04/14 03:14 AM
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I couldnt have said it better myself. There arent a lot of hard rules in this sub, but these are a few of them. They aren't exclusively seduction techniques; they are general social techniques. You can apply them to any social situation and come out on top. I consider these ideas to be the cheat codes to life.
/r/seduction01/04/14 03:44 AM
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contact her and go on a date with her. Without details, there are too many factors with unknown values to tailor advice to what you want. If she says yes, you built enough attraction. If she says no, you didnt. Keep your texting short and to the point. Tell her you are doing something and ask her to come with you.
/r/seduction31/03/14 04:42 AM
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Welcome! It doesnt matter where you start from, if you listen to the general advice here and are persistent enough, you will get where you want to be. Id like to start you off. This thread is about seduction. Seduction is NOT just about having sex with girls. It is a lifestyle. The most effective way to attract girls is to actually be attractive (seems stupid, but its necessary to say), so that is what you should be aiming for. There are no quick ways out of this. There are no short cuts. There …
/r/seduction31/03/14 04:30 AM
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I have posted this in the past: My golden rules for texting: 1) dont overthink texts. 2) dont try to seduce via text 3) dont over text 4) texting is only a means to an end My response to this thread may be helpful for understanding why. How do you control and make sure you text her just the right amount? Texting should be a means to an end. I wouldnt recommend getting into long conversations via text. If you want to tell her something, tell it to her in person because it is MUCH MORE POWERFUL to…
/r/seduction31/03/14 03:52 AM
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If I saw someone who had the balls to approach a girl I didnt, I would be jealous too. You will always get shit for it in the beginning. After doing it enough, they will stop bugging you about it. Hold your frame in the center of attention and you will be fine.
/r/seduction30/03/14 07:11 PM
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youre right, it is more cocky funny. I would stick to agree and amplify if the undertone is postive. your examples seem low self-esteemish, trying to agree and amplify a negative comment directed at you is not fun to talk about imo.
/r/seduction28/03/14 09:54 PM
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/r/askseddit is for questions about specific girl scenarios. I would recommend posting there for a more responsive answer.
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:05 PM
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Dont let other people break your state. Remind yourself that you should assign zero value to a strangers random bullshit comment. Being self entertained is the best course of action, in this regard. Respond with "no, I bet you secretly love it. Besides, ____ _____ really highlights my brown eyes." Always agree and amplify.
/r/seduction28/03/14 08:02 PM
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Stay in the game long enough and you start to eye up every social situation with a hot girl. Im not exactly sure if this is a good thing or not.
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:51 AM
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Program has few girls and all unattractive dating/sleeping within the same academic setting is weird anyways. Personally, when I'm done with my work for the day, I try to forget about it as much as possible and try to relax. I couldnt imaging dating a girl whos life is the exact same as yours.
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:42 AM
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Im in a DMD program. Classes and full patient loads dont leave a lot of free time on my hands either. I feel your pain. I had a similar post a few months ago. The term drinking from a fire hose is pretty appropriate, and the constant struggle for just a B kills my confidence. Im actually leaning in the direction you seem to be headed. Seduction definitely made me more conscious of my lifestyle, so I tend to work on my weak suits socially instead of focusing on pickup. I would imagine pickup woul…
/r/seduction28/03/14 04:28 AM
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Think of it this way. The only constant in life is you. The experiences you have, the people you meet, the places you go, the things you do. They all change eventually, but at the end of the day, personally happiness is derived from doing the things you want to do, regardless of other people's social agenda. Say this to yourself: "hey, fuck it. I want to go bowling (or whatever you are supposed to be doing with this girl) because I want to do it and it would be nice to have the company of a cute…
/r/seduction25/03/14 04:28 AM
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An option is to build a bigger social circle by befriending more girls. Hot girls have hot friends. Play your cards right and your new friends will practically hand you girls to sleep with. You give yourself more social proof the more you devote to the friendship. Friends and fucking. Its much more fun this way, but its also more of a wildcard.
/r/seduction24/03/14 04:16 AM
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Not necessarily. The underlying principles of seduction are life long skills to master , and will improve your happiness and fulfillment in life. These aren't bullshit concepts. Don't be scared. Be decisive. Be confident. Be congruent. Get what you want out of life. Sex is only one of the many positive outcomes that results from improving your current self. Not surprisingly, very well groomed, social, rich, confident, men get laid. A lot.
/r/seduction23/03/14 07:15 AM
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this. Be honest, but be decisive in what you want. Definitively telling a girl what you are looking for right now, whether its fwb, casual dating, relationship, or a one night stand, shows attractive dominant characteristics. Avoid hurting feelings if possible, but more importantly, don't compromise your goals for anyone. It is also important to mention you shouldn't procrastinate with a misalignment of interests either. It is very common for guys to think 'If I tell her I only want fwb, she pro…
/r/seduction22/03/14 08:39 PM
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Being able to diagnose your issues properly is probably the best place to start. Are you sure you arent getting results from kino BECAUSE OF your height/weight ratio? How can you tell, and to what degree of certaintly? The collective emperical experience from those actively practicing seduction techniques suggest that this ratio is of small importance. Maybe you have another sticking point you havent realized. If a girl is taller than you, try to even the playing field. Standing next to each oth…
/r/seduction21/03/14 10:09 PM
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Read this post and my comment (top) This is seriously one of the most effective ways to do this.
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:55 PM
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I understand where you are coming from with this texting advice, however, texting technique is completely dependent on your current relation with the girl. If you have already build a lot of rapport, gone out with the girl a few times, and have shared a significant amount of time together, texting will help you to keep you in her conscious thoughts. This, however, is entering into the realm of relationship building, which is not necessarily the same as attraction building. A PUA will tell you th…
/r/seduction21/03/14 09:45 PM
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This is a very broad topic. Usually you demonstrate desire with kino, directly telling her, or indirectly telling her. These are all broad topics and each one has its own substituents on how to not be needy. Can you narrow down the topic?
/r/seduction21/03/14 05:38 AM
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I dont necessarily think there is a lack of material on this sub as much as a lack of organization. When information becomes organized, posters start to realize the information is already available. I kind of wish posters could coordinate with the mods to create an extensive topic tree. The inner game and outer game super categories could be broken down further into their respective parts. The FAQs and sidebar, in my opinion, don't really effect what people post. I think this sort of template co…
/r/seduction20/03/14 09:44 PM
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I'll give that a try too. I'm the definition of spatial, cognitively, so any visual process will do it for me. I'd like to hear more ideas like this, but it's a very strange conversation topic. I don't exactly know how to phrase this concept into pier friendly question form.
/r/seduction19/03/14 11:56 PM
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You should probably first determine if the issue stems from the alcohol or the environment. Go to a party and dont drink for a while. If girls still dont notice you, its not exclusively the alcohol. If girls notice you, either the alcohol makes you think they dont notice you, or you are doing something while you are drunk that is a turn off. 2nd question: If a girl is doesn't show interest at first physically , could that be changed after talking / gaming them? The point of seduction/gaming is t…
/r/seduction18/03/14 05:26 AM
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getting in state functionally means feeling good. What makes you feel good? sing to music. be ridiculous. dance. drink alcohol, do drugs (not recommended, but Im not here to tell you what to do), talk to friends. talk to strangers. talk to girls. Have fun. Stop thinking about things so much and let loose. Get out of your head. Doing all of the above is probably very effective for most people. If talking to girls and getting rejected lowers your state, this is the definition of outcome dependence…
/r/seduction18/03/14 01:56 AM
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This is dependant on where you are coming from, mentally. I have been the type of guy in the past where I would attach to girls too much (oneitis and such). A fwb was sex, as well as a mental exercise for me to detach from outcome. fwbs work for me. If you are going out and not escalating with other girls because your fwb puts sex in your obtainable reach and you avoid expanding your comfort zone because of it, your fwb is clearly not what you need. If you dont know what kind of guy you are, try…
/r/seduction18/03/14 12:43 AM
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You are right. The other comments say you're wrong, but you are, ultimately, right. A number is just a compliance test in the longer scheme of the continuous relationship, and that's exactly how it should be treated. OP's idea, however, extends more into the realm of rapport building more than the actually getting her number part. Using the "do this because" template allows you to spend more time with her in new locations and sharing different experiences (as she is more likely to comply), creat…
/r/seduction18/03/14 12:21 AM
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Yes, it is very common to not share common interests with ANYONE. It doesnt have to be a girl. The key to talking to someone with nothing in common with you is to empathize and draw ties between both of your interests. If she only likes to ski and you only like to snowboard, you clearly dont like the same thing, but you both clearly like the idea of snow, mountains, outdoor activities, going fast, carving, jumps, etc. Identify the underlying commonalities and talk about a similar experience of y…
/r/seduction17/03/14 04:33 AM
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Night game may seem like a different type of game, but fundamentally its not. There are a few differences. I will try to touch on the surface of a few important ideas. You dont need to know how to dance for night game. I fucking suck at dancing, but it works for me simply because the key to night game is having fun and increasing your energy level. For any type of rapport building, the most effective means is to match energy levels with whoever you are talking to. During the day, people are a bi…
/r/seduction17/03/14 02:10 AM
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-Average folks will start dating/fall for those life has conveniently placed around them IE: coworkers, classmates, established friends ect. Your brain will adapt to attract you to what is available and consistently on your radar. This is a symptom of a very unremarkable lifestyle. Date outside your social circle, don't be a lemming. This is a foundation concept i wish everyone was actively aware of, and one that I dont see enough of in this sub. I don't have a lot of fears, but my biggest one b…
/r/seduction14/03/14 01:43 AM
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My question is, is it bad to read seddit daily? If you are going out regularly and gain experience to back the ideas you reinforce on this sub, its probably a good thing. Isnt that how optimal learning works? The cop-out answer is "everything in moderation". When I have dry spells of social interaction, reading about pickup really puts me in my head and makes it hard to enjoy the natural process of talking to girls in general. It makes me feel robotic at times. I sound like RSD's broken record, …
/r/seduction13/03/14 06:22 AM
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Does it help to be straight forward (but not too straight forward) that you want sex with someone? The goal is to want her to feel that you would like to have sex with her, but you dont need to have sex with her. How do you compliment a girls looks or physique in a seductive way without being creepy? Stick with complimenting her style. Complimenting on the things she clearly put effort into doing is much more meaningful than complimenting her on something she was born with and can not control. T…
/r/seduction13/03/14 06:03 AM
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Im going to try to tackle your disinterests one at a time, there is a lot to sort through. Why its wrong: A lot of guys interpret "not giving a fuck" as being a completely emotionless robot. "not giving a fuck" is not actually a good representation of what is actually effective in pickup. This mindset is given as general advice to people new to seduction, with the main purpose being that most guys are TOO attached to the first few girls they feel an emotional connection to. It is meant to compen…
/r/seduction10/03/14 05:52 PM
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Wait until he gets blown out by someone he is attached to. If someone has to ask themselves why what they are doing doesnt work, suggest an alternative, ie. teach him about shit tests. Show him how to handle the scenario properly. It will make you better and get your friend interested in social dynamics.
/r/seduction07/03/14 02:59 AM
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Yes, this is generally how people gain more confidence. It is also important to remember not to compare yourself to others, at this point in your life. College should be about finding yourself as an individual. Strive to do the best you can do because YOU want to develop a fantastic lifestyle, not because others are doing it so you feel obligated to do it too. It's also important to not that confidence doesnt come overnight. I takes some people years to truely become comfortable with who they ar…
/r/seduction06/03/14 08:55 PM
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PUA gets a bad rep because of its roots. What the general population doesnt realize is what pick-up actually is. Girls want more men to seduce them. This is a bottom line socially and biologically. If you asked any girl if she would like to live in a world where every guy she talked to was sexy as shit, she would probably say yes. Seduction is fun for guys AND girls when it works. It works the other way around too. I would kill to live in an area where all the girls are 10/10 social and receptiv…
/r/seduction06/03/14 06:34 PM
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You are not alone. This topic is, in fact, one of the hardest topics to tackle abstractly. Explaining why you feel the way you feel is hard, and might be fully comprehensive to your unique scenario. There are a lot of functional things you can do, however, to get over feeling like this. Do you go to the gym? And by that I mean pour your heart and soul into getting in the best shape of your life. I think we can both agree people who look good will feel good and have a boat load of confidence, but…
/r/seduction06/03/14 06:25 PM
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I'm not quite sure I understand what you claim his issue is. Does he want to keep the girls he sleeps with around? In that case, it's not seduction material he needs, but a relationship building technique. The evo psych perspective is more of my expertise, but I don't necessarily think that's what he needs unless I'm misunderstanding the issue.
/r/seduction06/03/14 06:01 PM
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Yes. Yes it is. My point is that those who call themselves gay could be 80-20 and just don't want to call themselves bi for one reason or another. I would imagine the dating scene is much harder if your gay/ bi, and making the decision bimodal could make it less confusing. Don't default to this answer though, go make some gay friends
/r/seduction06/03/14 05:54 PM
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As long as you smile, if she breaks eye contact, it's easy mode. Best opener, as well as super easy and effective: "no need to be shy, what's your name?"
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:00 PM
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Even more reinforcement. Your sister doesn't know what she wants either. let me help her out, what's her number?
/r/seduction06/03/14 10:09 AM
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A lesbian friend of mine once had a conversation with me about this. She seemed to believe that there is a gradient of gay, so to speak. Some prefer girls 80% of the time and guys 20% of the time, others are the opposite. In this light, its not impossible. I would say its not only harder to appeal to a lesbian, but you're also going to have a generally lower success rate because you dont know if she exclusively likes girls or not. Other than that, though, masculine qualities are attractive in a …
/r/seduction06/03/14 05:37 AM
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plot twist: is a placebo. This would be the greatest bootcamp ever
/r/seduction06/03/14 03:09 AM
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maybe im an ugly man and would love to pull sub 5 club skanks. Dont hate.
/r/seduction06/03/14 03:08 AM
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When can I take the Baddie bootcamp, and is mdma provided?
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:46 AM
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I will reiterate what I have said in the past about RSD. RSD has a lot of noise, but the underlying signal is, in my empirical experience, sound. He does things the way he does to lure you in because he is running a business, I get that. I wouldnt recommend starting there. At this point in my explorations, however, I know what I am looking for and they do have gems I find useful.
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:45 AM
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I read the game, but thats pretty much the extent of what I know about mystery method. Maybe it has been updated, but as far as I know, it emphisizes props and asking questions like that one, which dont build strong personal connections, in my opinion. I do prefer David DeAngelo's methods, as well as a combination of RSD outer game. DD emphasizes opening with something environmentally relevant and focuses on rapport building through personal experiences, however, I could also be misinformed abou…
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:35 AM
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i try to stay away from mystery method.
/r/seduction06/03/14 02:06 AM
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DD = double your dating?
/r/seduction06/03/14 01:03 AM
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Day game is a bit different because people in general expect you to be a bit more relaxed and cordial. Energy levels are generally low when you day game. I too hate using the word neg, it has a bad connotation. For day game, I like to employ a general guideline of 90%/10% or 80/20 for playful push-pull. Push-pull works because It makes you look like youre having a good time, you dont put her on a pedistal, and youre fun to be around because you dont take things too seriously. It kills a lot of b…
/r/seduction05/03/14 09:54 PM
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Thanks, I try to make my posts relevant to life skills rather than outer game, its a more effective means of builiding a foundation for seduction. I do want to harp on this, though. Social calibration does not build attraction. There is a very specific and important difference between building rapport/comfort with someone, and building sexual attraction. They are, however, codependant. On one hand, like your female friends experience, you have a guy who only builds rapport. He builds enough rapp…
/r/seduction05/03/14 09:37 PM
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A socially calibrated playful tease? That phrase just made PUA and seduction sound all formula-based like we're all robots conciously thinking about this stuff in set and trying to craft the perfect tease to yield a certain result. I understand how someone can interpret this as formula based, however, the idea is exactly the opposite. Social calibration is not inherently a seduction technique. It is also not an idea that can be fully explained in post, but I can try to explain the concept a litt…
/r/seduction05/03/14 07:56 PM
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This, however, I want to expand on this. Negging should be called a socially calibrated playful tease. Social calibration is necessary to determine how polarizing you can be with your push to maintain the interaction. Getting a positive response from a girl with a light tease is ideal, however, what happens when she isn't responsive? this is a sticking point for many. Effective Negs are, by nature, unique to whom you are speaking to. Low energy girls generally don't respond well to a highly pola…
/r/seduction05/03/14 05:58 PM
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Thanks for the post. I probably wont bother with it unless there is something radically different from the other RSD stuff. I like their ideas, but they do have plenty of noise in their signals. My style doesn't align with julians as well as other material does.
/r/seduction01/03/14 04:31 AM
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You don't necessarily have to take the unattractive ones home. Practice, regardless of where it comes from, is productive. Going through the motions helps me get over a lot of my sticking points. Also, if you are aware of your problems, and it seems like you have an idea, more often than not it's pretty obvious how to fix them. Good luck.
/r/seduction28/02/14 01:00 PM
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I torrented lol im interested to hear what pimp has to offer, what are the details? How long is it, infield?, inner/outer game focused? Or is this stuff all out in the open already?
/r/seduction28/02/14 04:23 AM
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I think the sticking point for complimenting a girl isn't the topic, it's that guys don't tell her why. "I like your hair". By itself is not effective. "I like your hair because when you stand over here (move her), it looks like you have a halo". This is much more effective, and acts as a conversation threader
/r/seduction27/02/14 07:25 PM
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The less troll response: scratch your nose of it itches. If you don't, you will be distracted. What op really means is try not to fidget. Small movements make you look uncomfortable, and she will feel it. This is why having a slightly wider stance is good, because it forces you to not shift back and fourth while you talk.
/r/seduction27/02/14 07:20 PM
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Yeah, I guess you can say you're shit testing her in a way
/r/seduction27/02/14 02:52 PM
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I understand where you are coming from. Ideally, these things are nice to do. Practically, it's very hard. As for the sex part, start small and work your way up. Try pulling girls who aren't necessarily 9s or 10s first. Everything is experience. Fuck what others think. I prefer to think of girls as a 1 or 0. I'm either interested in them or I'm not. The sooner you can get out of the abundance paradox, the better (low confidence doesn't get girls, no girls lowers your confidence) Also remember th…
/r/seduction27/02/14 02:50 PM
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I would recommend not thinking of sex as an ultimate goal. Think of getting laid as a bi-product of having fun building attraction with women in general. When you can stop thinking about talking to girls as a job and start seeing it as a fun hobby, your game changes drastically. Remember that 2 is not a trend. You could have perfect game and still get rejected by 2, 5, 10 girls in a row. I find that the more activities you have going on in your life, the less I care about rejection, as my activi…
/r/seduction27/02/14 05:03 AM
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What you and your friend stumbled upon is a compliance/attraction test, and a pretty hilarious one to boot. step 1) tell girl you go on reddit step 2) watch her react. good reaction = she either really likes reddit, or she already likes you and just wants to keep a positive vibe going. bad reaction = you didnt build enough attraction yet. step 3) profit.
/r/seduction27/02/14 04:55 AM
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like onetothehouse said, be reasonable. Everything is context sensitive. That being said, i prefer to do one of a few things: 1) give-take: give a favor, get a favor. preferably get the favor first. "ill get you food, but you need to have a drink for me when I get here/back". Dont demand. Playful, but dominant. This give take method utilizes the benjamin franklin effect. This is rapport building, and not necessarily attraction building. 2) Take her general request and flip it to your frame. "Im …
/r/seduction27/02/14 03:00 AM
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ahaha yeah, i know what you mean. Im always surprised by the amount of pure shit guys can get away with and still pick up a girl. Some girls are easy targets. Some guitar guys do have game though, putting emotion into a song is a pretty solid dhv. and to address the taboo thing, this entire subreddit is taboo. The general public doesnt want to talk about any of this shit, so i would say anything goes as long as it is relevant to pickup
/r/seduction25/02/14 10:57 PM
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Dirty talk goes under the high risk, high reward category. Functionally, it achieves the same thing as aggressive kino, but less effectively. A combination of playful words with aggressive kino is a potent combo, and transitioning to dirty talk and aggressive kino can seal the deal. The problem with doing these things at closing time is girls states can start to drop as they sober up, making them less receptive. Doing this at the end of the night also frames you in a needy state, as you are clea…
/r/seduction25/02/14 10:04 PM
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This is the connection I wish everyone could internalize, including myself. How you perceive others and what they have is always going to be skewed. Your own insecurities warp the characteristics you assign to someone else. Becoming completely secure with who you are and what you do is the answer to 99% of the problems you will encounter in the seduction process.
/r/seduction25/02/14 09:44 PM
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What you are addressing is a MASSIVE life skill to have. Everyone has problems with going out and making new friends. I will try to skim the surface for you. The question you are asking is how do you build a relationship with someone else, regardless of gender, while abiding by social norms. Ask yourself, why are sports teams a good place to make friends? No seriously, answer the question. In short, people build connections with one another through isolated shared time and polarizing experiences…
/r/seduction25/02/14 09:38 PM
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I understand where you are coming from. Yes, direct approaching like this does work. Why you approach in these two different ways depends on the context. I dont think anyone would disagree the more confidence the better, but you can demonstrate high levels of confidence while indirectly opening as well. In my opinion, how comfortable a girl is in her environment plays a large factor in how she will respond to an open. A girl comfortable in her environment (shown by smiling, positive vibes, talki…
/r/seduction22/02/14 08:43 PM
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Take smaller transition steps between building attraction and closing. I'm not sure if moving in for the kill means numbers, k or f closing, but I can give you an example. After you have isolated and are in the process of building more rapport, use every step of the kino ladder. What helps me is to literally take a small step closer to the girl. Minimize the distance between the two of you. By physically putting yourself in this position, you will feel more sexual tension, and be more likely to …
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:23 PM
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For daytime it's much better to be direct. I disagree. I think, in general, your day game should default to indirect, with the occasional direct conversation. Traditionally, direct openers throw girls off kilter, yielding a low result quantity, but high quality for pickup, as indirect openers are considered more socially acceptable, yielding higher result quantity, but lower quality. As of right now, there’s this barista drawing a chalk mural outside the entrance the coffeeshop. I’m thinking of …
/r/seduction22/02/14 05:03 PM
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im going out on a limb here, but im pretty sure for 90% of guys, AA is THE biggest sticking point for getting really good. Including myself.
/r/seduction22/02/14 04:37 PM
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thanks for the kind words. A good friend of mine has spent six years on her PhD in sociology. She is brilliant and gorgeous. It's amazing though, the sheer pressure of academia exhaust her. Sometimes I get tunnel vision and not see what others go through as well. This helps. It is a huge part of you now, and forever. You are not seeking other's validation, either. You are simply being honest with yourself. As a corrective side note, what I meant when I said I dont usually talk about what I do is…
/r/seduction11/02/14 03:47 AM
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But the fact that you're there, in the same program, at the same school, in the same social group as the others, shows that you're just as good. Sometimes mentally justifying this to myself isnt good enough to internalize it, but that's on me. It is a solid point. Are you involved in any extra-curriculars? I play in a few sports leagues (not school associated), and a trivia team with the time caveat. Id love to do more social things that dont necessarily have consistent time commitment Thanks fo…
/r/seduction11/02/14 12:41 AM
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There's too much. I suck. I suck at life." And that's what's hurting your confidence, not work itself. You are spot on. To me, it is hard to identify exactly which part of my situation I should try to focus on addressing. Combined with being surrounded by people who consistently do better than you at everything is a drag. This scenario isnt far off from going out with friends who are more social and outgoing than you are and attracting more of the spotlight. I happen to go out with more successf…
/r/seduction10/02/14 11:14 PM
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