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Multiple things can be true at once. Redpillers get tons of shit wrong, historians get tons of things wrong, and feminists love to try and say that because of the second, we can throw everything out and assume humanity was in matriarchal Garden of Eden until evil nasty men established patriarchy. For Rome: women straight up had severely low rights. The argument then was that rights came with responsibilities, hence why men had to serve in the Legions to earn their right to vote. Women's rights w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:34 PM
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I'm getting really good at predicting if it's a Lillith post by the unhinged titles alone, lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:14 PM
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It is when the peers are also feminists. Also, you people never take self reports seriously from men saying they like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 12:43 PM
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True and real. If women actually wanted men, they wouldn't have lists of hundreds of icks and dozens of 'must haves'.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:37 PM
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Women are effectively entering into homoromantic asexual polycules with their friends in more and more cases, these days. They boast about getting everything they need from friends and they say that they don't like sex all that much, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 11:36 PM
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'We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing.'
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 04:29 AM
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Lmao, no. For one, I don't play the oppression Olympics much. I also try to look at the many circumstances of a person's life beyond their gender, race, class, etc., unlike you people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:51 PM
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I've never seen that, but okee.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:47 PM
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Those aren't the two archetypes you presented in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 06:17 PM
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Very ironic, but I'm not surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 04:31 PM
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These people literally think a crippled homeless man has a better life than Kim Kardashian.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:16 PM
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So, not for 'all of history', then? Either way, do you want equality or vengeance?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 02:13 PM
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The 'eligible bachelor' idea was only a brief period starting maybe in the 50s. Throughout most of human history, anyone without a family or legacy was always a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 01:08 PM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:52 AM
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Because you like patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:52 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 12:51 AM
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opinion piece
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:11 PM
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'You didn't build your own so you don't care.' Most women are not interested in an egalitarian marriage. Why would they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:05 PM
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I'm speaking on how things ought to be. Not how they are. Marriage is a patriarchal institution, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 11:33 AM
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You can have that without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:50 AM
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I've been thinking about making a schizo post declaring that the redpill and feminism should be in lock step on fully dismantling marriage. The reality is it's a logical conclusion that both should come to from separate (mostly distorted) ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 02:03 AM
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Redpillers are not traditionalists. It would be more accurate to refer to them as right wing progressives, but they're largely apolitical.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:57 AM
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These are things that shouldn't require a marriage contract. The roots of marriage lie in what feminists refer to as patriarchy. It makes no sense for a feminist to be pro-marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/26 01:53 AM
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Another Lillith post, another gaggle of strawmen and projections. This point is quite funny, because it shows that your just can't form a theory of mind. Male and female sexuality are fundamentally different. Men genuinely are attracted to women merely for existing. Many men despair when finding out it just isn't the same for women. No woman will just look at him and desire him the same way he desires women. No, you're in lock step with the redpill on what women want, lol. The redpill frames wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/26 05:37 PM
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This is mostly true. You left out that 'game' or, charisma, is largely down to genetics and upbringing, like most things. You're never gonna be able to learn it later in life if you don't have the right genetic make up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 11:43 PM
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It requires different kinds of effort, but a major problem is that women don't trust men today. A woman is trained to eye every man she meets carefully, expecting him to be a rapist or murderer at any point. Many women are finding it better to just stop interacting with men because of this preconceived notion. Most women are also just not attracted to most men, so not having looks is a major disadvantage. I've even seen women say that they get all the deeper connection they'd get from a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 08:08 PM
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Women don't have to settle anymore. And they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:30 PM
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Don't pass on their cursed genes to more innocent boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:27 PM
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The problem is that women simply don't want men all that much, and can get everything a man could hypothetically give them from somewhere else. A man has to be extraordinary to attract an average woman because of this, not because of Chad Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 06:24 PM
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You just said that you would come in drastically. Ma'am, I've not had enough training to accommodate such things, I'm sorry to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:27 PM
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Not often I see a reference I don't know these days that makes me feel young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:26 PM
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O_o
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 05:24 PM
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You should come in enthusiastically. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:40 PM
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I mean, I see it and come to the conclusion that there's not much point in trying because I'm ND and can't seem to properly communicate anything. Good on them, though, I suppose. I just hope they aren't taking it as they must throw all their own cares aside. If the vast majority of guys that see you are nothing like the guys here, though, how does this sub give insight into how other guys think? Wouldn't that suggest that the thoughts of men here are rare? Or are your clients the outliers?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:39 PM
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You people on god have no whimsy, I swear. Can a fella not exaggerate for comedic effect? Does he gotta be deadass 24/7? Can he not, in fact, on occasion, be a silly little guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:29 PM
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I just come to doompost about gender relations and say outlandish things to people being outlandish. I don't cleanly fit into any pill, even purple. I also can't debate in person in part due to not having anyone to debate and having crippling social issues that not even therapy and medication seem to be able to treat. I'm genuinely curious how anything here could help one of your clients, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:27 PM
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Yes, this thing is extremely common all around. For women in particular, they'll say these things when all men have experienced getting filtered for something like height. The most amusing will always be when a woman says she doesn't care about height, and inevitably, her bf is some 7 foot tall monster that could punch an elephant to death. TwoXchromosomes is basically incels(dot)is for women, though, so even someone as bleakpilled as I on gender relations would caution you about taking that pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:20 PM
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First time encountering a Lillith post?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:13 PM
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Would that it were that both sides were more honest before engaging in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:13 PM
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I believe you're in the wrong sub. In here, women are supposed to tell men that everything is their fault, and they're bad people if they don't agree with this framing. Then shame them if they dare to suggest that a woman might've harmed them. We don't do that 'empathy' thing, here. If you're being honest, straight up, deadass, for real, then thanks. It feels rare to see a woman who doesn't actively hate men with a passion these days, especially in left wing spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 04:12 PM
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Wouldn't 'accidental weaponized incompetence' just be 'incompetence'.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:52 PM
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You're not owed a man's body (through physical labor).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:46 PM
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Did you try telling them that they're subhuman and have the brain of a toddler and that they can't change?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:39 PM
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Lillith is back at it with another banger! This time, though, instead of accusing all men as being evil monsters fueled by rape and baby blood, she's saying they're all subhumans with no social development. Progress?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/26 03:36 PM
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Women who commit rape should also get one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:39 AM
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Thinking that people shouldn't have any repercussions for ruining potentially three lives, the fake father, the child who will not know their real father, and the real father who is denied a relationship with his child, is pretty insane. If not jail, then she should be marked with a tattoo to make sure people know what kind of person she is. I'm all for mandatory DNA tests at birth. I think this would solve a ton of issues, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:38 AM
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I'd be okay with them getting state mandated tattoos that mark what kind of person they are. I think most crimes should come with this to help anyone that might meet the person in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:35 AM
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The rate of marriage and dating is falling, lol. By 2030, 45% of women will be single if trends continue. It'll only go higher as boomers and Gen X continue to die off. Women just don't need men, and more and more don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:33 AM
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Bro, I was just laughing at the wall of text.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:24 AM
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Eh, maybe it shouldn't be treated that harshly, but you're downplaying how horrid of a crime this is. The man is being lied to, and will spend 18 years providing money from his labor to a child that isn't his, while believing the child is. This might also cause him to not seek to have more kids, meaning she's taking away his chances of having his own kids. The child might never know their real father, and may be denied that relationship. The real father also may never know his child. One life is…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:11 AM
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Damn that sucks. Maybe the mom shouldn't have lied?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 02:05 AM
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(Straight and bi) Men are attracted to women, yes. Men actually want a woman to be with them. Most women would happily take the things with no man being involved and be even happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 01:03 AM
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The men that they wish they could find are fictional. The problem is that men are human.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:58 AM
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You think that your write up is so unique that an AI couldn't have ever seen anything similar enough to output it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:57 AM
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Redpillers live under the delusion that past rules will work, and that feminism wasn't about liberating women from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:55 AM
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I'm sorry two niche, microscopic subsets.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:52 AM
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Yes, because women want men that provide things for them, or that can make them feel certain things. They want the things and the feelings, not the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:51 AM
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Back when women were required to chain themselves to men for survival in a world where they didn't have access to decent jobs? Yeah, duh, of course. Now that men are optional? Most advice for women in regards to men is on how to avoid men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:48 AM
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AI can spit out words, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:37 AM
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Coping with humor. That's good. That'll get you far, kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:35 AM
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Holy yaparoni. I refuse to believe this ain't AI.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:33 AM
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Did you? Or did they fake it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:31 AM
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RPW is an extreme fringe, microscopic subset of women, lol. Why aren't there far more subreddits, forums, websites, and online communities of women instructing each other on attracting men and what men like? Quite curious... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:30 AM
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They should just do things that bring them whatever joy they can find in this miserable world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:23 AM
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Seeing a redpiller finally wake up to the truth... It's enough to bring a tear to my schizoid eye...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/26 12:22 AM
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Well, people with depression are often deeply unhappy, which means they aren't great to be around, according to this person. Might as well save themselves the ache of desire than live in delusion, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:31 PM
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'Just be happy!' Ah, shit, never thought of that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:30 PM
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They think that signals romantic interest because there's no other context in which someone would listen to a man be vulnerable without being paid. Even then, a man is likely to be abandoned for showing that weakness and revealing himself to be human instead of a fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 07:29 PM
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I mean any sort of vent. Even just admitting to being down about something. No one wants to hear any of that from a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:19 PM
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You're right. I actually have voiced this to every single women I've ever met. It was my opening line, in fact. Am I doing something wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:17 PM
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Why does no one understand hyperbole anymore? Anyway, sorry, where did I blame women? I think it's perfectly understandable why none have desired me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 06:16 PM
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Been in and out of therapy for a decade now. Oddly enough, none of them handed me my worthy-of-a-girlfriend certificate. Was I scammed?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:52 PM
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Trust is not a one way street. How could someone prove they're safe from the other side of a wall?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:51 PM
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Good God, I fucking love sex workers. There's so much more honesty involved in the exchange. No need to perform. No need to analyze every signal and expression. Bless those women. The ones who do it in person, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:50 PM
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Woah there, buddy, compassion for men? Get da fuck outta 'ere
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:47 PM
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Men with depression should just get chemical castration then, I guess. Its why women have better relationships and dont suffer from the death of their husband as badly as men when they lose their wife. This is just because women don't really like their husbands all that much, most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:46 PM
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Great, so why should anyone speak to anyone? Why not become a society built on paranoia? We already lock our doors at night, why not lock away every other part of ourselves? Your friends could stab you, your family could steal from you, your lover could rape you. Better to stay far away from all other people and never interact with them. I'm fine with this. I've lived it for 30 years. Can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:41 PM
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And yet, something caused the initial rejections that caused that resentment to build. Until that's solved, fixing the resentment is like fixing a scraped knee while the patient bleeds from a cut artery.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:38 PM
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This is why people rarely want to be around negative people who trauma dump on them. Almost only if that person is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:33 PM
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Self-esteem is entirely based on internal interpretations of external expressions of others. A person entirely alone has no sense of self to begin with, because they have nothing to compare themselves to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:31 PM
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I always get told that I'm single because I 'have negative beliefs' about women. I always ask in turn if women truly can read minds. An incel is an obese, greasy neckbeard who never leaves his trash-ridden home and spews constant vitriol, in the mind of a normie, because they can't comprehend a world where someone who doesn't look like that doesn't have romantic success. They believe the world is just. Also, how tf are you a bluepiller? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:29 PM
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And why is yet more burden placed on men to work through preconceived notions? Why are you so accepting of biases based on gender, or rather, a single gender? Are you okay with racial biases as well? Since men are often victims of random violence by men they don't know, would it be rational for me to never speak to another man I don't know out of fear that he might stab me?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:25 PM
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There's no way to know for sure how legitimate the fear is, especially when women in countries with the lowest rates of violence against women will cite even greater fear and distrust of men compared to women from countries where violence against women is a near daily occurrence. If men know that women will naturally fear and distrust them, why bother attempting to connect at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:19 PM
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Idk if I agree or disagree with OP or not, because their post is long and full of rambling, however, the Orgasm Gap discourse is hilarious, because it literally is just a skill issue. In the vast majority of positions and kinds of sex, men do the majority of the work. The only exception is oral performed on a man, and positions in which the girl is on top, but even then, the man often 'takes over' or contributes to the speed and rhythm. If women expect an orgasm, then they should either stimulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 02:46 PM
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I have no clue why they'd actually care, lol. Unless you mean if they think they've turned men into feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 01:49 PM
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That's a toxic level of empathy that you should look into changing. Again, this sounds like a good reason for men to not approach. I'd wager that men approaching has led to negative experiences more often than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/26 12:48 AM
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Why would it be hard to turn down someone who's respectful? Well, if women just don't like being approached in any case, then they should be the ones who do the approaching, assuming women even want men in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 10:29 PM
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This argument hinges on the idea that women actually enjoy sex with men. Hence, it's obviously not correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:32 PM
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More women might like being approached if more men were more respectful about it. A person who cares about what others think is more likely to not be a menace to those around them than someone who doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:14 PM
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That's a ridiculous assertion; in terms of biological functions and nowhere else, you'll probably find that level of overlap. If all humans were that uniform, we wouldn't have such vastly different cultures. Nor would we be able to identify so many distinct personality types. 90% of restaurants would serve the same foods.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:11 PM
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I'm aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 09:05 PM
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Giving universal advice on this is ridiculous. Women are individuals. What one finds appropriate, another finds offensive. Where one might be fine with getting approached anywhere, another may never want to be approached. Where one might decline while still appreciating the effort enough to suggest friendship instead, the other might insult you for daring to think you could approach her. The reality is that women should do the approaching. Studies show that relationships that start this way last…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:39 PM
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Men should never do the approaching, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:26 PM
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The truly dark comedy of it is that the men who care about what women think listened, and stopped approaching. The creeps who never cared still do. The message was ignored by the target audience, and internalized by the wrong one. But being real, most of those respectful guys never stood much of a chance anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:25 PM
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Nonsensical to do so. Every place that one woman wants to be approached, another will say to never approach her. Some women never mind being approached, others never want to be approached. Some will be polite and maybe even want to be friends instead, others might be insulted that you even dared to speak to her. This is why women need to do the approaching, if they actually want men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:22 PM
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Well, the darkly funny thing is that they didn't scare off the creeps who don't care about being called creeps. Women get approached by creepy men way more often on average now, because the ones that cared about what women have to say listened.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:19 PM
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So you want a performative man? And yes, women aren't attracted to their looksmatch because women aren't all that attracted to men. Thank you for acknowledging this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/26 09:31 PM
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curated algorithm And yet, videos celebrating dating are extremely rare, and videos made by women that appreciate men are almost exclusively made by women who have financial benefit. If women did like men to any degree that outweighed the women who hate men, I'd expect their to be so much content by and for those women that it would be impossible to put down, no matter the algorithm. less than 1% of the human population Sure, when you blow it up to the entire world. Cut it in half since it's saf…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 06:43 PM
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People like you thought that there was no way we'd ever replace horses as the primary mode of transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:04 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:24 PM
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Everything continues to point to relationships staying on a decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:42 AM
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'Entry level position - 1 year experience required' Women often operate on social validation, particularly from other women. It's why we have the stereotype of men wearing wedding rings receiving more platonic and non-platonic attention from women than when they were single. If you're 30 year old man with no real experience, your options are to lie, which I cant suggest, and learning to let go of silly dreams.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:40 AM
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'Entry level position - 1 year experience required'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:30 AM
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An asexual shouldn't get into a relationship with someone who wants to have sex with their partner and wants to experience having a partner that is attracted to them, in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:26 AM
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So women who don't want kids, or are incapable of having children, aren't worthy of this princess treatment you feel you are owed? If a man finds out the children weren't his, should he be able to seek reparations? What if the man either doesn't want kids, or is infertile? I don't think you understand the many unintended implications of your statement. Artifical wombs are likely around the corner, in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:24 AM
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No not women. The small subset of women you curated by obsessing over them your psycho TikTok feed. Tiktok, YouTube, reddit, Facebook, Twitter, etc. I've seen them everywhere. Many of their posts and comments get millions of likes. And historically, these were implemented by force and coercion and religious control and even child rape. They have not been founded through female choice. This society would be a matriarchy. Men would be a minority. You just don’t give a shit about the abuse of women…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 02:17 AM
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Or more women will identify with the label.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:57 AM
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Most bisexuals are in straight relationships. Only due to there being more straight people. Most asexuals are straight and want a straight relationship. They should only date other asexuals. Feeling of community, trying to find identity, feeling like you don't like heteronormative stereotypes or gender roles, attention, etc. Sounds silly, but alright. Most American women aren't single. Single women's attitudes towards relationships won't reflect all women's attitudes for obvious reasons. Their w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:50 AM
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In the future? Sure, why not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 01:38 AM
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I'm center left, so I'd prefer a woman who's more interested in a more equal relationship, actually. Being objectified as a provider doesn't appeal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:39 PM
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They could easily invent something to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:37 PM
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This is actually really bad. Why do you think fathers don’t matter? Women haven't exactly given me the idea that fathers are all that necessary. Straight women often complain about how much they hate men, and single women report higher rates of happiness. If women are able to do everything a man can do, I don't see why they can't also fulfill the traditional roles of a father. Your question implies that lesbian couples must not raise good children. What “man of the household”? You said the the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:37 PM
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Many are bisexual They can also date women. Most seem to prefer so anyways. asexual Then they wouldn't want to be with a man anyways. some microlabel that's a roundabout way of saying straight Wtf, then why choose a different label? Even if you're thinking only 70% of women are possibly capable of attraction to men, way more than a third of them want a monogamous (and only monogamous) relationship with one. About half of all single women in the US report not wanting a relationship with a man. Si…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 04:26 PM
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30% of Gen Z women are LGBT, compared to 10% of men, meaning that roughly 46% of women would face potential single motherhood. With monogamy no longer being enforced, and men being a luxury rather than a necessity, I'd bet a lot more women would become open to sharing. They could more easily put the man of the household in his place if need be; and would be about to lift burdens from each other, while being able to have a close friend always near, which women care about more than men. Men would …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:39 PM
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You really wouldn't have much. 30% of Gen Z women are LGBT.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:13 PM
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About 30% of Gen Z women identify as LGBT. 25% could have a mono relationship with a man if they really wanted to. That only leaves 45%. No doubt most would probably prefer being single. The remaining few probably wouldn't mind sharing a man, since women no longer need men to survive, and monogamy would no longer be enforced. I don't see how child rearing would be a problem. The birthrate would certainly be significantly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 12:12 PM
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Why can't a robot move the new fridge? We already have tech that can let women move hundreds of pounds. We've had the pallet jack and the forklift for nearly a century.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:54 AM
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More than likely, you wouldn't even have to share a man. Doesn't seem little more than 1 in 4 women actually want a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:51 AM
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I've seen this in social groups, as well. More guys and less girls means higher chances of multiple guys pining after the same girl, causing drama. As well, the higher likelihood of a girl infiltrating the group looking for attention and drama.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 11:50 AM
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I know that there are plenty of friction points to get used to changing your life around someone else living with you. I also think this is why dating and marriage are becoming more and more difficult, as people become more set in their ways and less tolerant of change as they age.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:08 PM
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Eh, not by much, especially as you age, and depending on, once again, your genetics as well as how drastic the measures you're willing to take.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 07:05 PM
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I don't know that's it's entirely possible to separate reproduction from the conversation. It's very easy to see why men developed in the way they did, as they are only absolutely needed for a short period of the reproductive process, so the tribes with the strongest and most protective men likely produced the most offspring. Those men likely bred far more than weaker men as well, explaining the disparity in how many men vs women bred according to genetic science.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 06:16 PM
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Sure. I've learned since that meaningless sex simply isn't something I'm interested in, especially when I can only seem to attract women I'm not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:24 PM
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Someone with average looks starts out from nothing and has to work their way up. Someone with bad looks starts out with a negative and has to work even harder, assuming the person will even humor them. This also ignores that personality and social skills are very much influenced by genetics. Some people cannot just create them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:22 PM
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I'm not talking about just sex. I personally only lost my virginity because I was losing my mind having people constantly ask. For the longest time, they poked fun at me. By about 23, they were confused or didn't believe me. So, being desperate, I settled for a girl I just didn't find physically attractive, but liked her personality. I assume it's that way more most men like me. No, the door I'm talking about is the door to a relationship with someone you can be happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:17 PM
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The kind of intimacy I want to give and receive simply can't come from a friend, unless it's some strange and different kind of dynamic, and I am unfortunately straight. Speaking of friends, those relationships also require effort. When I had more friends, I often found myself expending a great deal of energy reaching out to those people who rarely initiated with me. A relationship in which you live with a person is actually far easier to maintain, since you often interact naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:10 PM
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First guy already explained how you're distorting the argument. Restating that distortion doesn't make it any less of a distortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:29 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:22 PM
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Also, what is this "wanting to end the cycle altogether" BS? She's likely a 4b feminist but doesn't want to state it outright.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:06 PM
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'It's not a strawman because I'm speaking only to the strawmen.'
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 01:06 PM
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Obviously, but I'm not gonna get to stay in the room when I'm in the front yard or the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:47 PM
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I want more people to be willing to admit that some men simply won't be chosen or worthy. Often, just admitting that no woman has chosen you will have people making dozens of assumptions about your character. Sorry to hear about your cousin. The problem is, I don't desire a network. I truly do just want one person. I'm a highly reclusive person. Just having one person I could trust and be vulnerable and honest with would be enough. I wouldn't even need them to be shackled to me. They could have …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:46 PM
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I think in the perfect scenario, having someone I felt that I could be completely honest and vulnerable with would actually help tremendously. I recognize that this is basically impossible, however. Feeling love, care, intimacy, and understanding seems like something that could help most of my issues. I don't even want it from many people. Just one would be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:38 PM
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This is what I wish people were willing to admit more. Instead of asserting that only bad men could possibly end up alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:34 PM
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I would happily volunteer for some radical brain experimentation at this point, if just to help advance science. Hell, I'd try a lobotomy if I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:33 PM
1

The blue piller gets it. Brootal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:21 PM
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Other way around. If you're not cute enough, there's no point in working on your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:21 PM
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I've had multiple people in some threads on this very post say that it's a meritocracy. Not necessarily most people. Genetic science shows us that only 40% of men ever born have passed along their genes, compared to 80% of women. This is likely from the hundreds of thousands of years of history before the agricultural revolution, when monogamy wasn't enforced. Going into the future, we might see even greater disparities, as women no longer need men, and naturally want the best men. Women drive h…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:20 PM
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Very much not true. This is why people often look past early red flags in attractive people. Both genders do this both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:15 PM
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99%? Where do you get that number?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:13 PM
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Women don't have empathy for men because it isn't beneficial for them to have any. Progressive women have been taught that all men are the enemy, predators lying in wait, ready to spring at a moment's notice. Traditional women have been taught that men are tools, a means to an end to acquire resources; for them, a man who does not provide and protect is not a man. Both have been taught to distrust men, to be wary around them. Both will only ever care for men in spite of them being a man, not bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 08:13 PM
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It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:50 AM
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Well, as I've said in other comments, I'm medicated and in therapy. Sertraline has treated my anger and crying fits, but I still lack motivation and have persistent anhedonia, typically associated with dopamine and the reward system area of the brain. I've tried other meds with no real success. The only options left are rapidly becoming ECT or psychedelics. At this point, might as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:31 AM
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I'm not sure what this means. In order to be shown the latter you'd need to be let through the door.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:18 AM
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Would that it were I could force my brain to produce dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:17 AM
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I'm medicated and in therapy. While the medication treats the anger and crying fits I used to have, I still completely lack motivation and have persistent anhedonia. On top of everything, I have Schizoid Personality Disorder, one of the least studied PDs. Not exactly sure how much more I can do when my very brain refuses to produce enough dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:13 AM
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ADHD-I and Schizoid Personality Disorder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:06 AM
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By saying most, you imply that some amount can't. But fine, we can say then that I lack merit. Why care? Because I live in a society with them and don't know who they are or could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:05 AM
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My depression is treatment resistant. I'm medicated and in therapy. While sertraline helps with fits of anger and crying, I totally lack motivation and have fairly extreme anhedonia and muted emotions. I have ADHD-I and Schizoid Personality Disorder. Speaking with people without a script causes me pain and exhaustion, especially if I feel the need to analyze them. Having to interpret words, signals, facial expressions, vocal pitches, eye contact, body language, etc., while staying aware of my ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 05:01 AM
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That was true of the past. Times are changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:51 AM
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Big difference between 'expecting to' and 'wanting to'. I'd just appreciate less gaslighting, and more acceptance that dating isn't a meritocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:47 AM
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If it's not of their own free will, doesn't that disprove the whole personality > looks part?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:44 AM
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Sure, I'm ugly inside and out. I'd just appreciate it if people stopped pretending dating is a meritocracy that you can just boots straps your way into succeeding through. It'd also be nice if people stopped acting as though only morally bad people can lack success in dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:29 AM
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Why would someone need to change theirs? Apparently they do if they're ugly, have a personality that isn't great, and would like to be wanted enough for a relationship. Idk a great personality to me is someone who doesn't take themselves too seriously and is always down for an adventure and curious about life. This is extremely vague. I suppose it's a very open-ended question, this certainly fits plenty of people that find themselves unable to have a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:17 AM
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This assumes they even get a date in the first place, lol. Me, I couldn't learn half of the shit on your list due to my disorders. I'd just appreciate less gaslighting.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:11 AM
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What is a 'great personality'? How does one simply change theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:03 AM
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Because 99.9% of people are going to be attractive to someone Source? if you only consider being interesting or kind as something you do to attract people, you don’t have those qualities I never implied this. I was pointing out that it doesn't matter if an ugly man is mean as a snake or nice as a saint, he's not getting through the door either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 04:00 AM
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So, what exactly do you expect of people who are ugly, depressed, and neurodivergeant? Are they just not trying hard enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:53 AM
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You're missing my point. Imagine if those men had every personality trait you desired, but they were ugly. What is the use in having such a wonderful personality when no women finds you attractive enough to even witness such a personality by going on a date with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:47 AM
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People love to claim that a man must be a horrible person if he can't find love, even if they don't want to admit it in such clear terms. I've given up on explaining to neurotypical people that I can't just 'go up and speak to someone'. People to me feel like a constant shifting puzzle of signals and tells that I have to navigate while ensuring that I'm also staying fully aware of all of my own signals and tells. I can actually become terrified thinking back on previous interactions, constantly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:44 AM
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So if you're a poor, ugly, neurodivergeant, introverted man, what exactly are your options?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:37 AM
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If looks get you in the door, what's the point in any other attributes when you can't even get in the door?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:35 AM
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Ugly ND men need not apply, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:34 AM
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Men just still have to already be attractive to the woman. But once the attraction threshold is met then personality does matter. This admission is always interesting to me. If looks are required to get through the first filter and just that, after which personality is more important, doesn't this just admit that looks are the most important factor? Without looks, you'll never get past the first filter, meaning that all other factors are meaningless. I could have the most amazing personality in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:32 AM
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Allow me to introduce you to the Halo Effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:27 AM
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A great personality is not something that someone can just will into existence, though, no matter how much people claim it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/26 03:19 AM
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You can really only build up your attractiveness if your starting point is being obese and dressing like a slob, and any other obvious things that people think incels don't do when they do, such as showering. Even then, the gains are minor. Attractive male voices seem very rare. I've rarely seen women comment on it unless the guy's voice is voice actor quality, which even then, that's usually not the guy's actual voice. Someone with 'attractive body motion' is likely very confident, usually some…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:10 AM
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Men consider compatibility if they have the luxury to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:04 AM
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Will never happen lol. Men want women too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:02 AM
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Average and lowest looking men approach women at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:19 PM
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How tf would this help guys at the bottom? Why would any women approach them?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:07 PM
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This is because women aren't really all that attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 08:03 PM
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Is mid even an insult when it comes from a man? Mid is average. Most men find average women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:08 PM
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I doubt he would be considered cute if he was a normal man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 04:02 PM
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I don't know why you'd tee up such an easy win for them unless you were making yourself into a strawman on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:55 PM
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How many do you think agree with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:19 PM
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Yes, those men exist, and men are more likely to do that than women. Studies find, however, that women are more likely to be happy single than men. One study even found that 38% of single women report not wanting any kind of relationship, compared to 21% of single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:16 PM
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I guess you could call compatibility a standard, but I would normally assume it's a given if you actually find their personality aligns with yours. When I think of standards, I'm thinking of things that you feel like they have to meet even if your personalities line up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:11 PM
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His face looks like it was stretched out but only at the nose. Looks somewhat uncanny.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:04 PM
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Rare incel and feminist agreement 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:01 PM
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I don't buy it. There are horses with shorter faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 03:00 PM
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Deadass?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 02:16 PM
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I am calling you a pick me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:55 PM
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Most men would be insanely happy with just the first two. Many men don't ever even get to experience the second in a partner. To call all three low standards is pretty insane lol. If you won't even date a guy that has all three (assuming you like him), maybe you just don't like men? Curious what else you think a man needs before he's worthy of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:54 PM
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Damn, is this how woman feel seeing a tweet from JustPearlyThings?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:49 PM
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Yeah, but he's ugly. 5 at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:47 PM
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If I had a daughter, sister, or mother that dated, sure, maybe. Otherwise, yeah man, that's swell. Happy for you. 👍 I'd say you should ask this of women, though, lol. Women are constantly complaining that there are no good men. Like you said, they're also just more likely to be single now, though, not as likely as men today. It is a choice, and I understand why women choose to be picky. It makes perfect sense, and men are expendable, so it's always likely she'll find some other man soon after du…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 01:44 PM
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So you're just saying: 'Just trust me bro'?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:02 PM
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Hey, sorry. Just came back from being outside. Didn't see any of those men dating, weirdly enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 08:00 PM
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Women will only say 'we can be friends' to placate a man out of fear, or to keep him around for some utility he provides. notallwomenbutalwaysawoman
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:25 PM
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So is blue. Congrats, you have passed elementary school art class.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:22 PM
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Because women have more inherent value in the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:20 PM
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Where should he look?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:16 PM
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They don't have to. No one has to care about anyone else's problems. Everyone has the right to set their own standards as high as they want. Women will naturally set them higher because they have far more bargaining power in the sex/dating marketplace. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 04:12 PM
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I love destroying red pill cope. They literally do not care. The vast majority of women do not like men. The few men they may like, they like despite them being a man, not because of it. Modern men are sedated. Porn, video games, solitary hobbies, no incel revolution is gonna happen, WhatIfAltHist. We're already past the levels of single men seen in the past that overthrew governments. More women don't want kids than men now. Why would they? Kids are annoying and get in the way of girls night an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:30 PM
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What mess did he cause you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:20 PM
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So what. Let this miserable species go into that good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:14 PM
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Except men do need women if they want to have a child, unless they're wealthy enough to afford adoption, which most single men don't qualify for, or a surrogate. Women don't need men for this at all.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/06/26 01:50 PM
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Women don't really like men. Most of the time, they hate us. All you gotta do is look at what they say online, where they feel safe. I'll never approach. If I wanted to be humiliated that badly I'd ask for honest cock or face or body ratings.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 03:00 AM
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No. I've never been in a relationship, but I'd likely prefer something more equal, I think. A traditional woman isn't likely to share my interests. I haven't put much thought into it because I'm not attractive to women in any case.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:55 AM
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Purple isn't red.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:50 AM
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I disagree, in that ethics are steadily refined over time. This is the highly flawed, often leftist, view of history as a steady progress, as opposed the the also highly flawed right-wing view that history is cyclical. The reality is that it is neither. We'll touch on this later. I'm not great at selecting words. When I said 'society is less moral', I meant as in morality is no longer objective. There is no longer a central authority upon which morality rests. For western civilization, that used…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:46 AM
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Until that artificial womb technology and AI/ robot companions become lifelike, men will primarily be valued only for resources. Men inherently value women far more than the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:04 AM
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Who knows. Tech advances and stagnates rapidly. Current AI already fools people all the time. We will likely reach a point when it becomes impossible to tell, and the simulacrum will become reality. Even though the AI lacks consciousness and will never develop it under the current architecture that it operates under, but people will always prefer the pleasant lie. Real people suck. Disagreements are inevitable. The AI will always say that it loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:03 AM
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I mean, I'm not every man on this sub. Accusing you of being a bad feminist for not addressing male issues is ridiculous, though. Feminism has absolutely nothing to do with male issues. don't receive as much romantic attention as they want. While I'm sure there are many guys that wish they could sleep with dozens of girls, most just want to have a relationship with one. Nearly half of Gen Z men didn’t get to date in their teens. Two thirds are single, and a third have never dated. Nearly half ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:58 AM
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Yes, but that's what many guys get.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:24 AM
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My Great Aunt, she was the oldest of seven children. Born in 1919. Her dad walked out during the Great Depression so she had to help her mom raise the rest of the family. Lied about her age to get a job at 16 in a brass mill. She outlived her husband and every single sibling. She still did her own yard work in her 80s. She survived breast cancer. Helped raise my father and me by watching us after school. She was the strongest person I knew. I would find the question a bit weird, though. Feels li…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 12:23 AM
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but are you actively trying to date? Not anymore. I'm one bad day from seeking chemical castration. Are you on dating apps? Was on Bumble for three years because I had a crisis after a near-lethal car wreck. Gave up because I only got about 5 matches that went no where. Are you asking women out IRL? Do you want me to end it all? Are you on a platform like Reddit or elsewhere wherein you regularly communicate with potential desired partners? I was banned from Facebook for joking about burning Tes…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:51 PM
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You can look for a solution, sure, but do you even know what the problem is that you want to fix? Do you even know what end result you want? You'll either need to find something that feels better, or gets easier results. I don't have any ideas. I'm just one ant in the colony that realizes something is wrong. I can't will everything to change to what I would like it to be. I'm just trying to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:41 PM
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'They are yes, but they are no.' It would be easier to just call them delusional. Anyways, the 'jester' discourse is more about how men often feel like they have to perform to even get a date, then perform on said date, and the women aren't even reciprocating socially, acting bored and disinterested. Like a jester dancing for a queen that doesn't care. What you offered is just a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:37 PM
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You're taking the mindset to an extreme bordering on strawman. Most sane people don't literally keep score. OP's post was almost certainly made with feminists in mind. Feminism currently dictates much of western culture. It's a blatant hypocrisy that it pushes for equality when it benefits women and asks more of men, but doesn't or even pushes against it when it asks more of women and benefits men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:30 PM
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I'm doing it bc it's the moral thing to do. This is the same as saying you have a duty to do so, unless you don't think people have a duty to act on good morals. Society is less moral than it once was. Secular morality, unfortunately, is still poorly defined. It can only vaguely appeal to the rotten corpse of Christian morality, which died 200 years ago when science finally proved that creationism was impossible. As there is no longer a concrete morality in place, the only morality that people c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:25 PM
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I'm not a redpiller. I think redpill is cope and generally based primarily on greed and delusion with little bearing on reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:10 PM
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So the post was serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:09 PM
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These kinds of processes: cultural evolution, biological evolution, individual coping mechanisms and survival strategies, etc., rarely search for a 'solution', so much as whatever fulfills base instincts and desires. They certainly don't operate on moral laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:08 PM
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You disagree with him using the term '50/50', from what I can see. Funnily enough, one of the biggest gender debates coming right now from feminists is a 'tit-for-tat scoreboard' in the form of the 'domestic/emotional labor' debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:05 PM
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It's fine to want an uneven relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:01 PM
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Artificial womb tech is more likely to be used by women in the future. Actually being pregnant will be seen as strange, messy, unnecessary, and something women only do for the experience, like people in the modern day deciding to do some kind of religious pilgrimage on foot instead of by vehicle.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 04:00 PM
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The reality is that AI partners are very likely to become popular for both genders. Modern society finds interacting with a cashier for five seconds so intimidating that their are multi million dollar companies that exist to ensure that people don't have to. Once AI becomes impossible to tell from a human, human companionship will be seen as old-fashioned and novel.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:58 PM
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So... what's the problem with splitting the bill, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:53 PM
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The other thing is many of these surveys just ask if both of them work, not how much they actually worked. One study actually did ask for both partners' hours at work and hours spent on home maintenance. While they found that working women on average do spend more hours on housework, working men on average often spend 25% more time at work, but less time on housework. It found that adding all this up, men worked more hours total than women, or it evened out. You gotta wonder if these surveys are…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 03:14 PM
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Another day another Lillith strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:43 PM
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Are we deadass rn? <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:42 PM
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Cultural evolution is not a conscious thought process. Past generations of men were taught that it was their duty to help women because women were weaker, and women in turn had a duty to be kind and pleasant and vocally appreciative of that help. This is one of several kind rules in the modern version of 'chivalry' (which had nothing to do with historic, medieval chivalry). Current generations of men have been taught that women are their equals, and to not expect any duty of them. The idea that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:38 PM
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The vast majority of people are mediocre. That's literally how the word is defined. I suppose the assumption is that women do all of this? Most people will never undergo this process, man or woman. Are you just using fun words and terms you learned last week? Each singular person does not have access to all 4.5 billion people of their opposite or preferred gender. This point is poorly thought out. For someone claiming men need to undergo ego death, you seem to be very interested in stroking your…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:28 PM
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Yes, I agree. Doesn't change the facts on the matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 02:20 PM
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Sure, I can kill time with hobbies until I die. Doesn't change what the heart wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:17 PM
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What are normal men supposed to do that they aren't already, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 11:16 PM
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I'd love to have a partner. I'm just not the kind of guy that women want to approach them. I've nothing they want. Women often report more happiness when single, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:12 PM
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I disagree. Purely an opinion. I don't have a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:50 PM
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Lmao, again, this isn't the cause. Again, in countries where the redpill doesn't even exist as a mainstream concept, coupling rates are down. And there's actually far, far less men approaching women these days, which I support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:30 PM
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They'll just tell you that they're stupid, they should realize that patriarchy hurts men too (but obviously, their problems are nonexistent compared to those of women), they're too sensitive and weak, they're evil, they just hate women/don't see women as human and want to own them, etc. The pivot of young men shouldn't surprise anyone when the academic and cultural left pivoted away from 'the rich are evil' to 'men are evil'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 07:35 PM
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What exactly makes you think those down syndrome guys were influenced by redpillers? That's a bizarre assumption. But no, this isn't the cause of the dating rate plummeting. Even in far more left leaning countries, along with countries that don't really have a large redpill presence, the dating rates are still abysmal. Japan has been the case study for a very long time, but western and northern Europe scores far higher on equality metrics and they also have very low rates of dating, marriage, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:23 PM
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The only real change is that women are not being helped by strangers as much as they once were. Men are rarely helped by strangers. I remember those social experiments where they found that if someone was abusing their partner in public, if it was a man abusing a woman, men would normally nearly immediately step in once it reached or neared physical violence, but it's extremely rare for anyone to step in if a man is the victim. In interviews, bystanders usually say they assume the man deserves i…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:17 PM
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You originally said, 'Nobody is saying a man who struggles with dating is automatically a bad person.'
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:00 PM
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There are also those of who are neurodivergeant and can't pick up on subtle social cues. I've personally learned to interpret everything as negative out of safety. I'll never pick up on, 'she looked at you for 3.7 seconds and then looked away it's so obvious!' This kind of socialization where I need to analyze everything is so exhausting. I can't recall seeing any of the signals I've seen people claim are signals, though. The reality is, though, that there will unfortunately always be rapists. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 04:56 PM
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Where am I meant to go, then? These spaces are meant to dicuss these issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:58 PM
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It's a very common interpretation. I see it all the time in spaces like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:07 PM
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So what are the rest of men supposed to do that they aren't already?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:02 PM
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The phenomenon known as 'hypergamy' isn't evil. It makes perfect sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:57 PM
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In my younger years, I was always pretty good at getting people to laugh. I had to get good at it because I can't read subtle facial expressions, but laughter isn't subtle. Don't they always say: 'women prefer funny men'? Yeah, I've never had a woman express genuine attraction to me. Meanwhile, many of the most misogynistic men I've ever known never had trouble dating. It is what it is, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:55 PM
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Lmaoooo and yet men are expected to tolerate statements that insinuate all men are monsters. And no, I've found that people still love to moralize even if you make it clear that you don't think it's women's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:47 PM
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I've absolutely seen people take offense to statements like: 'I'm not attractive to women', or 'women don't want me'. Their argument is that it's misogynistic because it must either assume that women are a hivemind or that all women think the exact same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 03:45 PM
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You're never going to get this with someone you go on a first date with. You won't even get it after five dates. This is the kind of thing that can only be built after years of having someone in your life, to the point that neither one of you can imagine a better life without the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 12:51 PM
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I've been meaning to make a post about how redpillers and feminists should be working together to destroy marriage as a concept as the only logical endpoint of both their ideologies, but I'm lazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:59 PM
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Your comment claims that men as a group are making the binary you laid out. The implication being that men are all working together somehow to make this so, as though men are not autonomous individuals. If everyone were as distrustful of others as you are of men, civilization wouldn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:48 PM
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I'll be sure to bring this up at the Annual Male Hivemind Meeting next month, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 03:45 PM
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It isn't redpill either. It's its own thing. Redpillers also believe that women are attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 11:58 PM
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You're getting way too lost in the sauce. The guy that gets a swipe and a date that he will probably fumble is still further ahead than the guy who asked out a dozen girls and got nothing but rejection. Hell, the first guy being able to even get a date from an app is likely far more attractive than the guy who hey rejected several times in person, since we often hear women say that guys are more attractive in person usually. Damn, no, you caught me homie. Your mental projections actually are jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 08:49 PM
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I promise, you don't have to mask for men. 90% of men will fall in love with you if you're even just a little nice to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:57 AM
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My bad. Shoulda chosen different brain chemistry at character creation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:55 AM
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Okay, so you literally know nothing, then. On most apps, the ratio of men to women is often 3 to 1. On some, it's as high as 5 to 1. By simple math, it's impossible for most men to find success on OLD. OKCupid also found that women rate 60% of men as 'below average'.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:26 AM
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This would only make sense as a counter-argument if the people being swiped on were AIs. There are real people behind the accounts who saw that your profile and decided not to swipe on you. In person or through an app, receiving nothing but rejection is more evidence that you are unwanted. If a woman thought you weren't worth a text conversation, what makes you think she'd be interested in a conversation in person? No, I don't know why. I left my mind reading hat in my other pants. Is it because…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:24 AM
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Performance to me feels like I'm grinding away at my own soul. Part of the cause of my self-isolation is that I'm too exhausted to mask anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:07 AM
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Sure, I would just say that none of this actually fosters a deeper connection, merely seeking someone out to fill a role for which to perform.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:04 AM
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Talking to strangers and approaching with the intent to petition someone for courtship are vastly different things. I am perfectly comfortable talking to strangers, as I've mapped out scripts for conversations, especially in professional settings. Engaging in personal conversations feel painfully awkward on every level. Approaching new people with this intent to be vulnerable feels like I'm walking in front of a firing squad.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 12:02 AM
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OLD is extremely ineffective for most guys due to several factors, many of which not even involving women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:35 PM
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Getting zero matches after hundreds or thousands of swipes on a dating app is going to feel about as bad as asking out ten girls at a party and only getting 'no'. Actually works well with this analogy. Some men grew up learning how to work on cars. Some learned in a trade school, or at a job. Others never learned, and are getting old, and having to resort to YouTube videos that will not help. No, but of course you'll interpret it that way. The point was to question why you're comfortable with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:34 PM
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Emotional empathy, maybe. Cognitive empathy requires a lot of thought and effort considering the positions of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:28 PM
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So it's all about performance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:07 PM
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Many men who aren't approaching are choosing not to because they know that women will be on guard and are likely to see them as a creep. If approaching is so easy and takes so little effort, do you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:50 PM
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Empathy requires effort, energy, and a willingness to consider perspectives that might disagree with yours. We've gotten too good at ensuring that we don't have to use any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:46 PM
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If your entire journey involves getting a flat tire or the engine breaking down every two feet, it stops being so fun. Plenty of men also face nothing but rejection. Also, very funny that we're now worried about saying 'some men'. Do you react similarly to statements such as: 'women have to keep their guard up because men are rapists'?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 06:40 PM
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I agreed: no one gives a fuck about men's issues. The male suicide rate could triple and no one would really care. Are people supposed to care when their oppressors die?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:56 AM
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True adversity is getting pointless jabs in on reddit dot com.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:49 AM
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Serial killer couples find each other because their mental issues don't stop them from connecting. Even if I met a woman like me, the reality almost certainly is that we couldn't connect. I've learned to associate other people with betrayal. Even if someone cared enough to work through mask after mask, they'd still find a deeply unpleasant person underneath who has to force a smile most of the time. I tried socializing in my early and mid twenties, and just found myself exhausted. My last friend…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:45 AM
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Which gender do you think has higher standards? Which do you think is the gatekeeper of sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:25 AM
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You will interpret everything in the worst possible way no matter what I say, so we might as well skip the middle man: men are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:23 AM
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Yes, yes. Men are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:34 PM
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Do you have the same smoke for women who won't date men they can't find attractive? Men in general are just uglier than women, as well, so the league system starts to skew. I'd say I'm ugly to average. I find women that are ugly to average attractive. They do not find me attractive. I do not find very ugly women to be attractive. We're also only discussing physical appearance. I've plenty more than just that leading to my lack of options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:31 PM
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I don't know what kind of alt you're talking about, then. Well, that's why I'm also low value. In addition to my off-putting appearance, I'm also plagued with diagnosed mental disorders and a personality disorder. By my layman self-analysis, I have a disorganized-attachment style. My inner self is very similar to someone like Yozo from 'No Longer Human'. Listening to that audio book was like having my thoughts read to me despite the person having an extremely different life. I'm ugly inside and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:23 PM
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It was enough ammunition for anti-feminists to radicalize men away from the much more moderate movement, and into far more radical movements. True, no man ever died for their rights. I forgor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:15 PM
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I actually only used the word 'women' once, and it wasn't even in referring to an entire collective. There are male feminists, ya know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:13 PM
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Even when talking about men fucking over other men, feminists are quick to jump in and argue that women are fucked over by men more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:09 PM
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The post is literally asking why these issues get brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:08 PM
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The reason why this incident killed the MRA movement was because it gave anti-feminists the ammunition they wanted. It was very easy to point at that incident to show that feminism was simply about hating men. This gave rise to the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:07 PM
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Both Women's Suffrage and the Civil Rights Movement succeeded largely because they convinced people to join their cause, yes. Women's right to vote was voted in by parliaments and governing bodies headed by men. The reason why this incident killed the MRA movement was because it gave anti-feminists the ammunition they wanted. It was very easy to point at that incident to show that feminism was simply about hating men. This gave rise to the redpill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:05 PM
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There was never a demand that women do the work for men, only an ask that men already in the feminist movement could speak on men's issues as well within the movement. Men were very involved in both the first and second waves of feminism. Is feminism for equality, or is it solely for women's issues and advocacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 09:01 PM
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'Men are more successful at suicide because they choose more violent methods.' This still doesn't address the issue at all. Men and women in the US have access to the exact same methods. On men's life expectancy: men also overwhelmingly take on the jobs with the most workplace accidents. They are also expected to work harder and longer, wearing their bodies down much faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:57 PM
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People naturally avoid pain, seek pleasure, and try to conserve energy. Everything about the modern dating recession can be explained by these three motivators, or demotivators, in this case. We're becoming more intolerant of any pain, more addicted to pleasure, and finding ways to do all of this as easy as possible. Other humans are too flawed, too different, they can't give us what we instinctually want anymore. The good news is that AI will fill this void. I think the most realistic vision of…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 08:53 PM
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That's the states. There are dozens of countries across the globe implemented male-only drafts or conscription. Your other examples are victim blaming. I find it funny that when discussing women's issues, feminists often run to global stats, but for men's issues, they're very comfortable sticking to the US or other western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:55 PM
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Eh, sure, it happens, but more often, there are other reasons why it's brought up: when feminists say that men's issues are irrelevant/don't exist/their own fault, or by men trying to join the conversation by naively thinking they can make it more mutual. I've seen feminists do the exact thing you've mentioned more. In fact, the MRA movement effectively died and gave rise to redpillers when feminists protested an MRA event in Toronto at a university and pulled a fire alarm to stop the entire thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 05:51 PM
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Alt-girl is the trendy look, at the moment. In any case, you have to meet the threshold of being attractive first. Otherwise, as my mom put it, 'it's like putting makeup on a pig'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:54 AM
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Raising them with emotional intelligence This is a vague term that only professionals should be allowed to use. Most people, men and women, who use it, generally think it just means expressing emotions. giving them the ability to actually be a child What? The big complaint is usually that boys are just allowed to run wild. bodily autonomy So you're against male circumcision, unlike most feminists? The rest is fine, and usually taught anyways, but why do you think this would end all rape? Do you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:52 AM
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I don't know any ugly men who claim to have good social skills. I don't know where you came up with the idea that ugly men think they're charismatic. Usually, when we say we're low value, we mean in all aspects.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:47 AM
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Big goal post movement there. The point is, if they're having sex, they obviously have at least one option. Most men don't have zero options. No. When I said I have zero options, I meant for relationships. Could I go and find a 600 pound burn victim to sleep with or date? Maybe, but we all know that looks matter. My standards, however, are far lower than most of my male friends. Would you be happy if I changed it to 'top 50% male'?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/26 12:44 AM
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Do you honestly believe that every rapist never learned that rape was wrong? These people aren't that stupid. What are you even talking about? I knew plenty of people who went through DARE who became druggies later in life. It also wouldn't stop rapes committed by women. What exactly is 'proper raising'? I'd love to hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:25 PM
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'I don't know anyone that I'd never see on person.' Hmm, I wonder why. With bad looks often comes bad social skills. There's a reason why Danny DeVito is so noteworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:11 PM
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Are you for gender segregation? You should be. If you can admit that only 5% of men are the problem, but find this risk still too unacceptable, then you're admitting that there's no way to ever trust men ever. The vast majority of people who commit transgressions know that they're in the wrong, but do so anyways. We're never going to to stop all rape in the same way we'll never stop all theft. Well, unless we implement some Orwellian laws.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:09 PM
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According to every GSS survey in recent decades, the majority of 18-29 year old men are having sex at least 2-3 times a month. Counting or not counting prostitution? Another GSS study says 37% of adults 18-64 reported having sex once a week, which is a significant drop. Besides, men often have sex with women they don't find attractive. half of American women are legally married or living with a partner by 26. They can't all be with top 20% men, because there aren't enough of those men to go arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 05:23 PM
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Great strategy if you're a woman or top 20% male. Hard to limit my options any further when I'm already at zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 03:28 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/26 08:06 PM
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Chicken and egg. If women were interested in dating men, there would be a far more steady stream of users coming in and going out to be replaced. Instead, since only a small percentage of women are interested, they're trapped in a paradox of choice, while most of the men are stuck never getting chosen. The apps had to adapt to this reality to stay profitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:18 PM
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Which is another sign that women simply aren't interested. Apps provide the easiest possible method, yet they aren't participating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 11:14 PM
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By not having at least 6 feet of personality, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 08:47 PM
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This assumes that I think there 'should' be anything. The only thing we owe each other is to not transgress upon one another. How you dictate the relationships you want to have, and how those people want to dictate their relationship with you, is entirely up to the individual. I think the only contract should be to accept that the person you're getting to know is a human, not an employee to meet a laundry list. If you have standards you refuse to negotiate with a person on, that's up to you, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:11 PM
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Or they also expect the man to embody every masculine trait, including the ones that are toxic to himself, while also being a psychology master, able to dissect his own emotions and hers perfectly, while she should never have to do the same for him, because that's 'emotional labor'.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:55 PM
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The fact that dating apps are largely unsuccessful for most men already disproves this notion. Most women are chasing after a soul mate, while most men are chasing after literally anything. Women are the gatekeepers of sex and relationships, men are almost always the ones knocking. If it was purely about 'being a teammate', then women wouldn't be celebrating height filters being added to dating apps, or making tiktoks about how their self esteem is destroyed because an ugly guy thought he had a …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 06:51 PM
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we have been facing this shit for centuries Should really go into the Guinness Book of World Records for being the oldest person alive. Ancient transgressions do not justify current transgressions, only current transgressions. I likely would've been a male feminist, but I saw too many feminists celebrating male suicide, supporting male genital mutilation, and otherwise hating men, so I grew apathetic. I'm not an anti-feminist, but I'm also not joining a movement that demands I prostrate myself, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 05:30 PM
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Most women who actually do date men, basically expect men to hold to their end of the old contract, while having little to no asks on their end. The men who do still participate do so because they still desire women, but women are plenty happy without a man. A man has to be perfect for her, or he's worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:47 PM
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Men are well aware that the old contract is void. The fact is that there isn't a new one that the vast majority of men qualify for. As for where it's all headed, well, Gen Z women are nearly three times as likely to identify as LGBT compared to Gen Z men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 02:30 PM
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The biggest problem with all of this, funnily enough, is rarely the actual text of the media, but in the meta conversations around it. Obsession (I haven't seen it) would be an interesting tale about the danger of self-victimization, and placing your worth on a single person. The main character is an interesting exploration of a wolf in sheep's clothing, a monster in plain sight. But that's the problem, he's not labeled as a monster by the creators, critics, or intended audience, he's labeled as…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/05/26 05:08 PM
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I became attractive and suddenly women liked me for my personality What exactly did this prove? Most men these days have friends that are women. This isn't the 70s anymore, or whatever. Most friend groups are gender mixed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:34 AM
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Lol, no. Ever worked a warehouse job? There's an accurate stereotype that due to there being a critical shortage of women in the industry, and most people working there being ugly, any woman is instantly more attractive, and we'll inevitably acquire a pathetic group of men always following her around and doing anything to one up each other for a chance to get her attention. I knew one such woman. She was genuinely extremely physically attractive. She was in a support position, and always had a l…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:17 AM
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This is because they never liked it. Nothing ruins a woman's day faster than some ugly, socially maladapted man waddling up to her and thinking he can speak to her. You people still haven't caught on that there's probably a reason why marriage, dating, sex, and birth rates all drastically decreased after women no longer needed a man to survive. They never wanted us, lil bro. Take comfort in peace and quiet and putting your money into hobbies. Constantly begging for attention from people that hat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 03:39 PM
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The bare minimum is not doing active harm to them. No one is owed kindness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 06:12 PM
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Obviously there will be massive overlap between what you want in a friend and in a romantic partner, but I'm saying that what's exclusive to a romantic partner should be far more than just sex. You've already admitted that there's something more. There's some kind of love that's different than love for a friend that's also different from sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:24 AM
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Yep! This is why the only escape is a virtual reality. Allow us to leaves our bodies and brains to inhabit realities where our conscious can shape everything, including our own thoughts and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:22 AM
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I left a lengthy original comment on this post. To summarize: I think sex/love/romance should be viewed as a need in the same way that socialization with friends is a need. You also won't literally die with no friends, but you won't feel good, and will likely develop disorders as a result. This drive is almost certainly an adaptation from evolution that predates even mammals. How is a person supposed to feel confidant when they don't feel wanted? How are they supposed to be wanted when they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:08 AM
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Sure, it ain't real. It's like eating junk food when you're starving, though. Would you rather have a twinkie after a week in the desert, or nothing at all for another day? No one is saying it's a permanent solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:03 AM
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You've already proven much of my point. 'I helped her because I was able to' And you wouldn't if felt that you weren't able to. If it was the last $300 you had, would you still do it? Moral integrity and consistency don't put food in your belly or keep your home maintained. They are things accounted for once you feel able to and if you feel that the people around you would do the same if you were in need. Moral integrity and consistency are luxury items. Everyone has some limit where they won't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 03:01 AM
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This is always some of the most depressing shit I ever read lol. They say men don't value deep friendship; I've begun to believe that women don't value deep romantic relationships. If the literal only difference between a friend and a romantic partner is sex, for one, I don't see how you could ever have a friend with benefits, I don't see how you could ever claim to love a boyfriend or husband more than a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:42 AM
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I think there's far too much focus on sex specifically, when romance/love also needs to be in the conversation, but that's just me. I'd say it should be obvious that sex is important to human health. As biological orgasms, one of our primary drives will be to reproduce through some means, as it is the primary drive of all life as we know it. It the only way to guarantee the survival of the species, but also of our own genes, and thus, the only way we can survive past our life span. Of course, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:36 AM
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Legalizing prostitution would likely be the first and easiest step. A more complicated system would be one that basically forces kids/teens to interact more in their developmental years, especially with the opposite sex. Take their phones away and make them do shit together so that they don't turn into social r-words. Something like this would've benefited me, as an introverted and nerdy only child that felt completely alienated throughout all of school. A government created dating app to take a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:17 AM
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No, so long as AI continues to work as if does now, it will never have a true conscious. They may be able to provide aconvincing illusion, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:07 AM
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Enough men started to care about women's suffrage to vote to give women the right to vote. The Suffragetes understood that having men in the movement was important, which helped their success. Of course, in modern feminism, men are viewed as an enemy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 02:04 AM
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If your bf/husband lost the ability to have sex in an accident, would he immediately become a friend instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:59 AM
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I think you'll also find that most people will still feel a great desire for sex/romance even if they have plenty of friends and family. Studies find that men and women report similar rates of loneliness, despite women having more friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:54 AM
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Literally no one, save for people like Jesus H. Christ and Mahatma Ghandi, would help someone that hates them and wants them dead. Granted, even Jesus lost faith for a moment on the cross. You've basically asserted that only full-blown martyrs can be good people. Everyone does good things because they get some sort of benefit. Usually even the most altruistic deeds are done because the person doing them enjoys it. It's exceedingly rare for someone to spend their life doing good things despite ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 01:50 AM
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It is probably the case that these women are in mixed-gender friend groups with one or two guys that have slept with all of the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 08:31 PM
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The phenomenon also exposes that men are so unaccustomed to experiencing a woman being nice to them, that they misinterpret being nice as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:11 PM
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Normies really do be comfortable saying with their chest how much they hate people with mental illness lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:09 PM
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There are studies that say roughly half to one third of women have slept with a male friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/26 09:05 PM
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Who said anything about racism? We're only talking about sself-preservation. And you're right. This means that women need to immediately get away from all men they know. The state needs to remove fathers, brothers, and sons from families, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:42 PM
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prejudice 1 of 2 noun prej·​u·​dice ˈpre-jə-dəs Simple Definition A Simple Definition is available from our Learner's Dictionary to help you understand the meaning faster. 1 a : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics The organization fights against racial prejudice. b (1) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge It is fatally easy to pass off our prejudices as our opi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:34 PM
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Do you think a society with no trust among its inhabitants is a healthy society?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:30 PM
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The topic of the post is if men should hate women. The topic of this thread is the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:26 PM
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I'm confused. Why do you go on dates with men when you know that it's so likely that they'll rape or kill you? And if the potential benefit is as lowly as eating a single m&m, why take such a massive risk for such a tiny reward? Literally no one is saying you shouldn't be careful. I'm on guard around everyone, man or woman. Never know when I'll have to defend myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 11:24 PM
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I never even claimed that women lie the same rate for the same reason as a fact lol. I just made an assumption that could be wrong. You instead decided to fixate on it instead of having any kind of food faith conversation. You said '95% of men admitted to using some form of aggression to get sex from a woman'. Is lying a form of aggression? Is asking repeatedly a form of aggression? Is having a friend help a form of aggression? Is having a female friend nearby to make her feel safer a form of ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:21 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:09 PM
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I hold certain prejudices against all people. A woman is just as capable of killing me with my back turned as any man. Statistically, some races are more likely to commit violence. Shouldn't it be fine to be more wary of members of other races, then? As well, if 'self-preservation will always prevail', do you make sure to cook all of your own meals to avoid being poisoned?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:09 PM
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Goalpost shift. The topic wasn't general 'stranger danger', otherwise, it wouldn't have been gendered. The topic was whether or not women should hate men due to the negative experiences they've had with men. Please stay on topic. Also, the implication that women are as helpless as children is wild lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:03 PM
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You're quite literally just arguing for prejudice against a group based on prior individual experiences. I learned that that shit was wrong in elementary school.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:58 PM
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Is it reasonable for men to also not want to date because they don't like the kinds of women they meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:45 PM
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Asking for a source when I just proved you were lying about your own is very funny. No, I don't have a source for something that should be common sense. Funnily enough, I did find a statistic saying that 80% of women have faked an orgasm. I suppose we can just say that no woman has ever lied to get sex or about anything else for that matter, because only men lie and commit evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:42 PM
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Sure. The other problem is that the study that stat comes from was from a single university known for its sexual abuse problems, yet certain people will claim it's a worldwide phenomenon. It would be like taking the rate of gun death statistic from one country in the middle of a war and claiming that that is representative of worldwide gun violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:37 PM
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I am simply saying. Obviously women have to worry about violence more, but to suggest they deal with scammers and men don't is wild lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:31 PM
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People lie all the time. They don't even specify what the lie was. It could be anything from lying about their height by an inch, to lying about their income, their car, their GPA, whether they're a virgin. Maybe it could be something a little more serious like who they voted for, if they've slept with her friends, their religion. If we're counting literally anything that could be considered a lie, then I'm sure the same amount of women have done the same to sleep with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:30 PM
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It's more that they're trying to find people who treat them with respect, dignity and honesty, who they also find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:24 PM
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Of those latter examples, the only one that men deal with less is 'sexual deviants'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:13 PM
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That's due to rampant porn use. Gen Z literally thinks choking is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:10 PM
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Did you even read this? 95% admitted to using 1 of 36 methods on the survey. The most commonly used method was 'told her what she wanted to hear', which was used by nearly 80%. The second most common was 'asked repeatedly', but which is already drops to under 50%. A lot of the ones near the top are things like 'had a friend help', 'had a female friend help her feel safe with me', and 'used money, status, or age to convince her'. Then towards the middle there are weird ones like 'kept kissing/tou…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 05:08 PM
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What percentage of men are rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:47 PM
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20%, by definition, is a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:43 PM
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That's nearly every young man. Young men are exceptionally horny. This has been reality since the first ape shed it's hair and walked on two legs.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 04:28 PM
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I think anal is gross so I wouldn't even ask for it to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:56 PM
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All biological orgasms prioritize themselves first. Even producing and protecting offspring is primarily to preserve their own genes. It's up to society and family to figure out how to make having children attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 12:10 PM
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Well, I don't know what the circumstances of that were. It often depends on location. For one, you were a gf, not a wife. Prices have also risen rapidly in a few years, and are likely to only continue rising. The kind of men that want the arrangement you're looking for, also tend to prefer young women, no matter their age, so you're on a time limit. It's good that you're comfortable with your backup option.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:58 AM
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I've got no clue what country you're even talking about. In any case, there's plenty of cases across the world of feminists actively fighting against men's issues. In Italy, there were feminist protests against a public campaign to raise awareness for male abuse victims. In India, feminists protested the expansion of a law against rape that would change it so that men could legally be defined as victims. There was an MRA event in Toronto that was hosting talks on male suicide, divorce court, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:52 AM
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Most women do hate men, yes. They are willing to generalize men in the same way that racists do racial minorities. You hear the exact same sentiments: 'I don't hate them, I'm just aware of how many of them commit crime. It isn't all of them, but it's enough of them that I can't trust them to not be one of the bad ones. I'm just trying to protect myself.' Feminism has nothing to do with equality. It is a large constellation of ideologies that all share one thing in common: advocacy for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:33 AM
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Second wave is where this form of feminism emerged. Third wave is when it took over.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:24 AM
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I mean, to answer your original question, hating men is basically a requirement of modern feminism, which is a bastardization of the Marxist concept of 'owning class are the oppressors of the working class, who are the oppressed' which is part of the greater narrative of framing history as a story of 'the haves vs. the have-nots'. 3rd wave feminism stole this concept and changed it to 'men are the oppressors, and women are the oppressed'. In what universe would the oppressed not hate their oppre…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:53 PM
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Yeah, most people still seem to think hating men isn't a requirement of modern feminism. I blame people who still cling to old definitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:46 PM
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Sorry, but this is fairly delusional. Women have far more value in today's society by the nature of being the only gender that can have children. There is simply nothing a man can give that a woman can't get from somewhere/thing else and usually better. Women can earn their own money, and young women in urban areas are outearning men of similar ages. The vast majority of men are very ugly to women, and the subjective areas of attraction can only go so far. Women don't need men for children, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:45 PM
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Even as an exception, I'm willing to bet that even a tall, muscular woman will not be seen as a threat compared to the average guy. This is not even a statement on your or any woman's competence in physical combat. People simply don't expect violence from a woman, even a 6'8" bodybuilder woman. They do expect it from a man, even a scrawny 5' 3" man. Men are seen as violent, brutish ogres who only want sex, and according to modern feminism, most don't care about consent. The 'stereotypical female…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:46 AM
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I'm guessing you're conservative or right leaning? I mean, good luck is all I can say, lmao. Single provider home simply isn't feasible today unless your husband is white collar, or has an incredible union/government job, and you might have to be willing to live a more humble lifestyle. Depending on your other standards, you might be looking at a very small dating pool that's only gonna get smaller as you get older. Things are gonna get especially rough as the economy continues to go into the sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:07 PM
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Eh, I'll take your word for it, but that would place you in an extreme minority. Do you also believe in the 'provider' dynamic? With how society has evolved, traditional gender roles are simply unsustainable if heterosexuals actually want to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:17 AM
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Assuming the approacher isn't a creep and will accept rejection, the one being approached can end the entire situation with a single word. Again, who holds the power here? Good for you, but by definition, approaching someone is an act of exposing yourself to someone, and asking for their judgement on whether or not you are worthy of their consideration. It leaves you open to rejection, to receiving feedback that you aren't worthy. And, no offense, but you are a woman. Both genders will always be…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 02:09 AM
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It would allow you to actually select men you desire, rather than have to endure being bothered by mostly men you find unappealing or revolting. What makes it masculine? Why keep this traditional gender role?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 01:45 AM
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Who holds the power in the dynamic of approacher and the approached? One can end the entire thing with a single word, while the other has to do all the convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:02 PM
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Yes, we know most of us wouldn't be approached. Still better than now. Who is the dominant one and who is the submissive one when you take the initiative to ask the bank for a loan? Who holds all the power in this relationship? Men (high quality men) would become more selective over time. Also, lol, welcome to the man's world. Most guys have no way of knowing if a girl is actually into him, or just into getting free food/entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:01 PM
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What power or dominance does one have when they must force themselves to be vulnerable and experience rejection dozens, hundreds, or thousands of times? Assertive, and requiring confidence, yes, but in this case, the one being approached has what the approacher wants, and therefore, all the power in the deal. The approacher has to be the one to convince. Think of it in how people used to petition kings and feudal lords. Who do you think has the power in that relationship? Or, for a more modern e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 05:56 PM
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'Fittest' doesn't always mean 'physically fit'. It means 'fittest for one's own environment to reproduce'. If most people aren't reproducing, they aren't fit for their environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/26 06:00 AM
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She also signed a letter with other French intellectuals demanding the government get rid of age of consent laws.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/05/26 09:05 PM
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Then you're giving up on your entire argument if you're admitting that boys get disciplined more.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 01:18 AM
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I've got no clue what this is even talking about. I graduated in 2014, and in my experience boys simply were disciplined far more often and more harshly than girls. Granted, this was also because boys did stupid shit more often. I can maybe only remember a handful of girls that often went to detention and it was usually for cussing, talking back to a teacher, or fighting. Boys did all of that way more and got longer time in detention because they were repeat offenders. Hell, in my school, boys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:58 PM
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You're simply wrong. One could be a brilliant neurosurgeon, but an overall stupid person, like Ben Carson. Intelligence is rarely universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 09:32 PM
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Not what I was diagnosed with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:54 AM
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The reality is that it is possible, but not everyone has the innate intelligence or willpower required. And even among those that do, for some, those professions would make them miserable. Sure, there are some people who might be too poor to initially afford college, but there are systems available that they could utilize. It will likely be more work for them, unfortunately. The system of capitalism can and should be improved upon, but it is not an impossible system to live happily in without be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:51 AM
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Lil bro thinks tapping on a profile requires deep and forbidden knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:46 AM
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My friend's cousin's roommate's brother once manifested himself a million bitcoins by simply sacrificing a pint of blood weekly to the Great One, Ya'ah Du'Nölz.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:45 AM
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A brand new reddit account with an extremely uncreative ragebait username posting low effort bait? Say it ain't so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:42 AM
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I'm not anti-capitalist. I simply don't view being a doctor, lawyer, or billionaire as the one and only measure of success or happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:39 AM
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Being a good person has nothing to do with getting into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:36 AM
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Can every poor person become a doctor or lawyer?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 12:32 AM
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Don't mind me. Just having fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 08:47 PM
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The point is that I wouldn't be in the boat to begin with. I'm in the ocean. I would have to be in a relationship to be able to leave one. No woman would want me anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 09:14 PM
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most often, the insistence that they're inherently lesser in any way. Men simply are lesser in today's society. The things that men once held that women didn't, strength in particular, have been outpaced by technology. A forklift doesn't give a shit if a man or a woman operates it, it will lift two tons all the same. Even if every man on the planet disappeared tomorrow, there'd still be plenty of frozen semen left until a new method of baby making could be engineered. Women, however, still have …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 02:00 AM
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It simply is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:58 PM
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In general it isn't. In this context it is, since OP chose to be involved with these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:57 PM
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I do an awful lot of defending men who actually, literally do hate me. What exactly are you defending them from? Young men are reporting that they're having trouble developing a set of values and sense of purpose, now that so many aren't getting it pre-packaged from a church. This is simply a problem in the West in general that will only get worse so long as a new value system not based on a dead god is not introduced. Women have a pre-packaged value system in feminism, which is somewhat secular…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 08:56 PM
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Bluepiller calling out a woman? Never thought I'd see the day...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:03 AM
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It is wishful thinking. Love cannot exist without attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 04:02 AM
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Yes. Only copefueled blue and redpillers would fight you on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:53 AM
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It's their fault for not having better genes, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:52 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:51 AM
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It's still funny to me, lol. I mean, I have flashbacks to awful romantic and sexual experiences I've had due to the desperation inherent to being a sub 5 man that I find funny now. The idea of a sub 5 guy thinking he's made it and found love only to learn the whole thing was traumatic for his partner is just so goddamn darkly comedic. Like starving to death in the wilderness and your only source of food is canned, and you have no can opener. That kind of funny. I mean, again, I said I don't blam…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:49 AM
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Yes, as I'm not a desirable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:41 AM
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That there's a spectrum between being totally obedient and being adversarial.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:41 AM
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Those aren't contradictory points at all, in fact, you're kinda admitting that the accusation of women having high standards is correct. Idk how truly ugly your exes were, but if they were average or above, you have high standards by definition. I'm personally only going to call you out if you say stupid shit, like: 'the bar is in hell' or 'I'm not asking for much', and then the only standards you're willing to list are things that a homeless troll can meet, but you're obviously only willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 03:08 AM
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Again with the bizarre binary. 'You either want a slave or a woman to be adversarial to you, there's no other option.' Some of us prefer peace over drama. Relationships of all kinds require work, which normally means communication. Challenge implies something else. What is she challenging me for? We're supposed to work together, not against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:11 AM
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Doesn't sound very 'challenging'.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:08 AM
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Over celebrities, sure. Over normal men? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:01 AM
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According to the patriarchy framework, I am an oppressor by default. The only way to fix that would be to renounce every part of me that is a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 02:00 AM
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She wouldn't like me, so it's hardly worth considering.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:59 AM
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It is a good thing for women, yes. Women objectively have a better life now than 50 years ago. They can select the best looking and most successful partner. They can select each other. They can even select and even better partner by choosing to share a much higher value man as monogamy continues to become less popular. A woman will always have better options. Despite what redpillers claim, marriage is actually more beneficial for men now to lock down a good woman, so long as they have a good pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:48 AM
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How does this work mathematically though? It works out into two thirds of women under 30 being in relationships compared to only one third of men under 30 being in relationships. I think it'll only get worse as monogamy no longer looks attractive to women or much higher value men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:32 AM
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The bottom line is that most men will never be wanted, and there's no better version of themselves that women will ever want, because they'll always have better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:28 AM
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Want brings uncertainty, FOMO, and resentment. A man will always have less options than a woman, and a woman can always find a better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:23 AM
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What happens when they inevitably find a man they like more? There's no advantage to staying committed.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 12:20 AM
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That’s off base though - garbage human is one with lack of virtue, character, morals or ethics; it’s nothing to do with testosterone. Men are typically perceived this way, especially by women. 'Men are trash. Yes all men.' Etc. And I tend to agree that if a woman says things like that, she’s bisexual or lesbian. But inundated is a super stretch because you’re only considering manipulated social media platforms, not in real life. Simply search 'chopped men epidemic'. My decent looking but not hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:54 AM
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Well, when I suggested that you should be able to relax and feel loved by your partner, you started talking about how they should 'make you think'. The framework you're talking about sounds like any time I'd ask for her to do something, I'd get a lecture on the patriarchy, and any time I just wanted to chill after a long day at work, I'd have to engage in a spirited discussion on a new book she read and wants me to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 02:11 AM
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This is a bizarre binary to create. A partnership can only ever be a master-slave dynamic, or a constant tug-of-war? Give me a break. Do you want a man that tries to argue with you when you look for comfort from him? That sounds just as toxic as the other option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 12:42 AM
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If you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:51 PM
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I don't want to be 'challenged'. I just want to be loved (impossible). Wtf does 'challenging' even mean? Like, you think men should have to work for everything when already in a relationship? 'Do this before you're worthy of a goodbye kiss.' 'Sorry honey, you can't sleep in the same bed as me until you beat me in a debate.' Sounds exhausting. I'd love a woman I can have a conversation with, but I'd rather feel like I could relax around her.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:50 PM
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Is that not what a pickme is? I often see women being nice to men getting called a pickme.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 11:38 PM
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1] I listen to a lot of feminist video essays as a form of self harm. I also watch/listen to several vtubers. I've played a lot of video games with female protagonists. Been watching Sopranos with my mom, which has a lot of focus put on women and their own roles/struggles. I also talk with my mom a lot, much more than my dad. 2) Uuuuuuuhhh Weapons, I think. The first POV character is a woman, and I think much of her portion of the film was about how being a woman can be scary. 3/ I'm actually to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/26 08:33 PM
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It's extremely rare for them to post it on social media, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:51 PM
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Yet you prefer looking at the women, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:49 PM
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I think most people can read better than you apparently can. You can take issue with what he says. Implying he's gay because you misunderstand is very weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:46 PM
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A 'garbage man' is simply an average man or a man that hasn't stripped away as much of his masculinity as possible. Social media is inundated with 'straight' women saying how much more attractive women are and they almost never see an attractive man. If a man said the opposite, people would rightly call him gay. And studies find that both men and women prefer interacting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:45 PM
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I prefer looking at women. I'm a straight man. It actually is that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:16 PM
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Seems highly unlikely. I wouldnt like my slavers, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 07:14 PM
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Trainers don't have them turned up so high that they cause the dog to yelp. We've had three dogs that we've had shock collars on. We never have it set that high and I've never heard one of our dogs yelp like that in the few times we've have to use it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/04/26 03:17 PM
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You've admitted that you like looking at women more because of porn from a young age, and the only thing about men that turns you on is their pheromones. You've basically gone about 90% of the way to giving credibility to gay conversion therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:29 AM
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Okay, so bad faith, then.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 11:23 AM
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Implying so much of sexuality is down to conditioning is an ultra conservative take. So, then you aren't attracted to men, just their pheromones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:32 AM
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He is asking why supposedly straight women call themselves straight when they only ever speak about being attracted to women and not men. At no point did he imply he doesn't find women attractive. You either went out of your way to be bad faith, or need get some practice in by reading 'See Spot Run'.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 03:29 AM
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Women simply aren't attracted to men. Why would they be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:37 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:29 AM
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Impressive lack of reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:29 AM
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Why not watch gay porn then? Also, doesn't this just mean a woman could be sprayed with male pheromones and you'd be into her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:28 AM
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The majority of women-centered subs are hubs of man-hatred and are proud of how much they don't want or need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:26 AM
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The majority of women-centered subs are hubs of man-hatred and are proud of how much they don't want or need men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:26 AM
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I've never heard a woman gush over a man's physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:24 AM
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there's a counterculture currently happening against this thinking. What? The counterculture is even more hateful of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:23 AM
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I certainly prefer looking at women most men don’t arouse me Straightest straight woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:20 AM
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The thing men have issue with is that women aren't attracted to men. Though, most men still don't understand this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:14 AM
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I'd rather chew glass than give a random woman free entertainment by humiliating myself by cold approaching. Granted, I'm never gonna approach under any circumstances, because I know it'll never go well for me, and no woman wants me to bother them anyways. I'd warn against it unless you're unironically a 9 or 10.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 01:05 AM
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Is a man bad then if he rejects the framework of feminism even after listening to its arguments? If he's aware of the ideas of patriarchy, but does not agree with them, how is he not a bad person? If he rejects the idea that he does harm, he must not be a good person. If someone is a member of a group that actively oppresses others, and created asystem to do so, should you not be demanding that they do everything they can to excise themselves from that group? Are the men who make the rape and mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:54 PM
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Oh, alright, so you don't believe in the current feminist framework of patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 06:40 PM
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I would hate my oppressors if I felt I was a slave. Wouldn't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 01:09 AM
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Men uphold rape culture. How can they be decent people?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:45 AM
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How are men not bad if they are helping other men to rape women and children? Why would you ever go to bat for someone who's trying to get you raped? How could you square away that men are humans capable of love when they are oppressors who created a system to disenfranchise you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:44 AM
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I've found that the only way I can enjoy the presence of a woman is when I know why she's near me, because then I don't have to read her. I can just relax. This basically means I can only feel safe around female family members, my therapist, service workers, and for sex and intimacy, sex workers. I don't have to mask or perform. I don't have to read her facial expressions or body language. I can just relax. I can feel safe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:37 AM
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The fact that men and women report similar rates of loneliness despite women having more close friends already disproves the claim that you can just get everything from friends. It's yet another ad hominem lobbed out. The same as 'take a shower' or 'maybe don't be an incel'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:13 AM
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Men were told to stop approaching women in public. They listened, at least, the non-creeps did. Hell, the gym is the worst place to meet women. You're likely to just get reported and banned if you're awkward. Use a dating app. Women have their pick of the litter on there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 12:11 AM
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Is this a serious question? Because I want to love and be loved like anyone else. I wish I could be normal, but I was born with a brain that doesn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:44 PM
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This is an actual strawman fallacy. I did not make this claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:36 PM
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I mean, OP is actually more feminist than you are, then. Whatever happened to 'yes all men until it's no men'?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:22 PM
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Woah you're a bad feminist. Yes all men until it's no men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 11:20 PM
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Well, it's actually because women have simply never wanted men, and now that they no longer need men to survive, it's only natural that the relationship rate has seen a rapid decline. It was always going to be this way. Women hate us, no point in crying about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:51 PM
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Gen Z women are actually nearly three times more likely to identify as LGBT than Gen Z men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:48 PM
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The men opting out usually weren't that desirable to begin with. It's good to see even bluepillers are admitting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:43 PM
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'Improving yourself' these days means going into Clavicular levels of looksmatching.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 09:40 PM
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I'm sure that the feminists who came to her defense will admit that they were wrong and try to do better in the future, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 05:05 PM
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And why is this impossible for you to imagine? We can already see that makeup usage among US men is rising quite rapidly (percent reporting they use it 'daily' went from 3% in 2019, all the way up to 15% in 2024) and is declining among women quite noticeably (percent reporting 'daily' usage went from 54% in 2019, down to 43% in 2024). We're effectively just starting to adopt the mating system of most bird species, where the male must put in all the work to attract a mate, as opposed to the unusu…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:33 PM
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I'm not interested in owning a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:01 PM
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Sure, but men are also choosing not to enroll on top of that. Men also cite not enjoying school as much as women. In either case, I'm speaking more to the outcomes than anything. That aside, when it comes to coupling and kids, I think we're going through a great filtering. We're approaching a mass generation of humans who for the first time have a choice in having kids or not. Pension systems may not survive, but we'll get past this and hopefully healthier future generations that partner for rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 01:16 AM
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Feminism believes that men are defective women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 10:54 PM
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True. I just meant in terms of all the drugs, surgeries, and other methods.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:12 PM
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Sure, it's somewhat subjective. Subjectively, most women only find 20% of men as average looking or above. Why wouldn't you care about what women have to say about why they refuse to date men when dating is like, 80% of what this sub is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:07 PM
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Traditional bodybuilders will soon be a tiny minority. The majority of men will have to be doing as much as Clavicular in the future to get any kind of interest from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:49 PM
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The reality is that within a decade or so, women will be wearing makeup less than men. Men will also be overwhelmingly the ones going to the gym, getting cosmetic surgeries, and the men's fashion industry will become much larger than women's. Human courtship has always been unusual in that both genders perform in some ways to attract a mate, men, primarily through acquiring resources, and women, primarily through physical attractiveness. In most species, it's usually one or the other, with the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:42 PM
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Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 01:07 PM
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There's literally a chopped man epidemic. Do you even listen to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:55 PM
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It depends. Bodybuilders can reach risks of early death similar to obese people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:51 PM
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I don't know what definition of emotional intelligence you're using, then. Neurodivergence always involves high amounts of difficulty surrounding emotions, either in recognizing their own or those of others, as well as regulating both. I find socialization exhausting because I absolutely despise having to scan for subtle facial expressions and body language. I often can't, because my attention is easily torn away, or I simply shutdown. Speaking with others will always feel like a performance to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 02:13 AM
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Circumcision is about the only one that is actionable. It should be obvious in both its immortality and effect, yet it's an issue almost no one takes seriously. Feminists especially should get an easy win because it's literally 'my body, my choice', but for men, yet feminists constantly downplay it, insult the men who bring it up, or deflect with 'yeah but it's usually other men behind it', as though feminists suddenly can't push back on men. I support its abolition because it's a ridiculous and…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 12:39 PM
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If you eliminated men with neurodivergence from your dating pool, you'd have more success, then. It'd be pretty depressing to have a partner who looked down on me for having trouble picking up oh subtle signals and emotions. Everyone has a ceiling on how good they can be at something. Introverted men simply don't make the cut anymore. Genetics and outside factors affect personality and behavior far more than people give credit. You simply can't bootstrap your way into being an extrovert. But you…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/26 12:33 AM
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There is no way to honestly pursue solutions to men's issues. The right reaches out to men, with traditionalists trying to convince them to want to take society backwards, and manosphere influencers grift off of them. The left mostly tell men to fuck off, that they're the problem, and they need to become leftist or be labeled evil. The issues men face are not obvious, they are oftentimes not easily actionable and very much down to an individual level. Men who would otherwise be willing to be ope…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 12:12 AM
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Why is it that feminists will always run to the global level to make their most extreme points? The majority of people on this site are likely from countries where women have experienced great leaps in seeking equality. Men will try to talk about their own personal issues within their country and then get shouted down by feminists for not talking about child marriage and spousal murder/rape in a region on the other side of the planet. I see this pattern all the time. It unironically seems to be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/04/26 09:00 PM
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The manosphere itself was a symptom, not a cause. Things have changed at least a bit now, as younger boys are growing up with access to manosphere content. Of course, no one can even agree on who is or isn't in the manosphere. I've seen feminists seriously claim that Scott Galloway and Dr. K of all people are redpill extremists. The reality is that women want nothing to do with most men. They view us as brutish, unsightly ogres with an extremely high chance of assaulting them. There was never go…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/26 03:40 AM
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It's very funny that you bring up genetic history, because you've ignored several facts in this. For one, genetic history tells us roughly only 40% of all men born have reproduced, vs 80% of all women born. This pattern is worldwide, and throughout most of history. The extreme bottlenecks contribute, but the pattern was still there. Next, you don't acknowledge that those bottlenecks were worldwide. By that period in history, humanity had spread across the world, meaning this bottleneck must've e…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 11:27 PM
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Sure, men also lust after women's bodies and beauty. They also long for many, many other things from women, such as their love and care. Women, meanwhile, find men's bodies repulsive. Just look at the 'chopped men epidemic' lol. They hate men's emotions as well. And sure, women lust after fictional men, but it's also no coincidence that the most popular fictional men among women also just so happen to be somewhere on the feminine spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:16 PM
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Love is not a factor now as men are unlovable. If you think love was invented in the 60s, you're just wrong, lol. Men have been creating art about how much they love women for millennia. When women were allowed to create art in the past, and as they began to create art until now, it's extremely rare for them to create anything in admiration of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 01:19 AM
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If men never loved women, why would they ever bother pretending when they have more physical strength? If it was only ever about sex and breeding, if men were truly evil, they would've come up with a far more oppressive system than patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 12:56 AM
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Of course it was. I'd argue that humans are only capable of loving women, by the nature of how we're born and raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:33 PM
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I don't see it as morality. Genetic science has proven that the majority of men born haven't passed along their genes, whereas twice as many women have. It's simply a fact that women are more valuable on an individual level by nature of the human reproductive process. Once men's advantages are given to women, we naturally see an imbalance form in the dating market. status, inheritance, family continuity, and social order all mattered. All of these require women. Yes, many societies were male-dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 05:26 PM
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I'm not saying the old ways are better. I'd hate to have a slave. I want nothing more than for a woman to want me. The reality is that I'm unwanted. My father shouldn't have been allowed to breed. I inherited so many disorders and bad genes from him. My mother practically fell into his lap. They're both broken people who clearly don't love or hate each other. I'm a product of dysfunctional people with a barely functioning relationship. But anyways, the reality is that rightoids who uphold tradit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 04:57 PM
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Doesn't mean specification wasn't still necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 05:03 PM
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You didn't specify at all, but you'd still be wrong. MGTOW is cope. They still want women and think they'll come crawling back.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:20 PM
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You are simply incorrect. Men are obsessed with women to an unhealthy degree, and always have been. Men constructed civilization in such a way as to guarantee themselves a wife by disenfranchising women and forcing them to require a man for resources. This was effectively the only way to even get early men to participate in society, as there was no point in doing grueling manual labor in fields without purpose, that purpose being the love of a woman. This love, of course, was always an illusion …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:10 PM
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Unfortunately, Mr. MGTOW, women will not come crawling back to you. Take it from a stone cold 'cel: Women never wanted us. They never liked us. They never even loved us. Meditate on this harsh truth, and you shall see reality for what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 04:01 PM
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"We won't sleep with you if you don't do this thing we want you to do!" "You weren't going to sleep with me anyways, so both outcomes are the same." <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/26 03:57 PM
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Okay, so you're just bad faith or not very smart. And I’ll be waiting for that proof too. You haven't provided any proof for your claims. So? You can't square away the claim that Disney movies teaching that women are evil when they are also show that women are good. ……………………….. Not a response. So? The main source of all evil in the Bible is a masculine entity, not a feminine one. This was used to justify treating women like theyre stupid and the reason child birth is painful and dangerous. Goalp…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:31 PM
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Would you rather they say 'some/many women are not criticized sufficiently'? All of your examples are loose at best and illogical at worst. I'm not even a redpiller, but this is too incorrect to not comment. early Disney Princess movies Well, this doesn't have much to do with 'society today', but you even accidentally give away the fact that the heroines in those classics were also women, and there were plenty of male villains even in the classics. Captain Hook, Chernobog, Gaston, The Ringmaster…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 03:59 PM
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I'm speaking on modern feminism as it exists, not as it's defined.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:10 PM
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“Economic independence” does not mean genders can survive if half the population stops participating. Why couldn't they? In any case, even the money she earns to buy things made by men inevitably has men involved somewhere in the chain. 'Personal independence from men' would be a better way to put it. Economic independence does not mean genders are magically able to segregate and completely untangle each other’s impact on society. Why shouldn't they? Women can't trust men. You are arguing agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:59 AM
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It's the logical conclusion of modern feminism. Since women can't trust men, why would they live with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 04:45 AM
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If men and women shouldn't live in the same home, why should they live in the same society?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:09 AM
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People don’t build houses because of the generosity of their hearts. Relevance? I didn't claim they did. Water does not come from men. Well, technically everyone has water in them. Water is a naturally occurring resource. Drink water from the ocean if you believe this. Men are not the sources of electricity either. Didn't claim they were. Men are perfectly welcome to stop earning money in these jobs to make some vague point about women’s economic independence. The only thing that will happen is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 02:01 AM
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No. And yes, it's a bastardization of Marxism, which itself is a bastardization of Christian ethics, which are a bastardization of Judaism, which is a bastardization Zoroastrianism and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:59 PM
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Forgot to mention that men don't have bodily autonomy in the form of genital mutilation, a cosmetic surgery forced on us before we can even walk. Legal in literally every country on earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:34 PM
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Amongst first time home buyers, the biggest demographic is single women. A home built primarily by individuals of which gender? With water supplied primarily by individuals of which gender? With electricity supplied primarily by individuals of which gender? Homes do not sprout from the ground as trees do. In order for gender segregation to take full effect, many women will need to abandon those college degrees and take up blue collar work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:29 PM
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TERFs aren't right wing. They're simply so anti man that they also hate Trans women. At least, that was the beginning of that branch. Much like many other terms, it entered the mainstream and has lost much of its original meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:20 PM
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Have you literally never heard of the many branches of radical feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:18 PM
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Almost half of young ppl are single and not dating. The stat is two thirds of men and one third of women under 30. That's much lower compared to the past. The most cited reason (more than 70% of respondents) is that they have bigger things to worry about. Labor market, housing costs, education issues, political upheaval, overall economic decline... That's a reflection of the state of the world, not the dating scene. This is generally delusion. Countries with semi-regular famines and civil wars h…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 06:25 PM
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Except the only stat you shared was for marriages, which are less common and more and more people are choosing to stay partnered, but unmarried. You'd have to show satisfaction in relationships as well to get a more accurate comparison. In Gen X's day, it was expected that you'd get married and most people got married far sooner. That simply isn't the case for Millennials.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 03:49 PM
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And yet, most people are reporting extremely high rates of loneliness. Depression and anxiety are at highs never seen before. Marriage rates and dating in general are both on a decline. You only bring one stat related to happiness in marriage. How many are happy in their non-married relationships? Almost everyone says dating/hookup culture is miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:35 PM
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There is profit in it. There will be entire industries popping up to get money from boomers. The elder care industry will have a massive increase due to demand, and many boomers today have a lot of retirement funds to siphon off (because these greedy fuckers would never give money to their own kids). Trust me, boomers will have far better twilight years than they deserve. The problem will come after they die out. Part of the reason why Healthcare is so fucking expensive right now is due to boome…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:31 PM
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We're making it so that they have to replace us. Eventually, there will be so few workers that billionaires will be forced to invest in robotics just to keep production up. Until then, they have to keep us fighting among ourselves. Oh please. We fight each other because we want to. I hate this idea that we have no agency and are the slaves of corporate propaganda. There are more us than them. Again, puh-lease. There will never be a revolution. This larp is tiring. Your average man reacts to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:15 PM
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Overpopulation is only an issue thanks to fossil fuels. Breaking the reliance on them solves the vast majority of overpopulation issues. Other problems, like the housing crisis, are purely due to greedy and stupid homeowners petitioning local regulators to keep housing prices high so that their own home value stays high, because these idiots think storing their value in something they'll never sell is a smart move. There's dozens of better solutions than voluntarily dying out. A huge problem we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 04:04 PM
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You don't think the 'oligarchs' wouldn't love to replace all their workers with robots that will never strike, complain, or need raises or benefits? The idea that the super rich won't find ways to benefit is hysterical to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 03:48 PM
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This ad hominem is always fun, as it assumes that I have these ideas written on my forehead, or that women are mind readers. No, the reality is that I'm ugly, which people in general don't like.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:11 PM
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You can throw out rhetoric all day. All we have to do is look at the real world to see how modern feminism operates. It has no interest in equality or conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:08 PM
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It's women being disproportionately affected. The guys might not hate or look down on the women, but they think choking them to unconsciousness is just normal. Like, this is such an obvious and overt way in which the porn industry harms women even outside the industry itself, but you defend it? Here I am, a dirty misogynistic incel calling it out, but the bluepiller is now appealing to individuality? Bruh. I can't lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:05 PM
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<image> Adults can (sometimes) separate fiction from reality. Unfortunately, we have a generation and a half of adults now that watched porn as kids and are now choking each other among other things because they think that's just normal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:14 AM
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I assumed he was deadass.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:10 AM
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Empty rhetoric.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:03 AM
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You guys had thousands of years as the arbiters of the default state of life. That's odd, I'm only 30. How many 2000 year olds are out there?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:00 AM
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Do you believe porn addiction isn't causing misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 03:41 AM
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No, it's just that no one cares if a man sterlizes himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:08 PM
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It won't happen. Women already hold the inherent biological value. Now that they're becoming socially and financially equal, men will have to adopt more and more extreme tactics to draw a woman's eye, and women know this. They don't desire men that much already, so it's up to men to excel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:12 PM
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Get with the times. Women are now saying they'd like to be approached more, not less. I'd bet my life this is a very vocal extremely tiny minority of women that get signal boosted by coping MGTOWs and redpillers and doesn't reflect the feelings of the vast majority of women, who are actually happy that men don't approach as much and wish the number dropped to zero.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:10 PM
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Usually, when guys say they don't want girls who've gotten plastic surgery, they mean chicks with Mar-a-Lago face, where they start to look uncanny or the kind of boobjobs that look like bolted on beach balls, not regular boobjobs that you cant even tell unless you're really looking. Also, for the age part, most people in general prefer a partner closer in age to them. Most men do eliminate most women from their dating pool by virtue of not wanting to date women 10 years older than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:46 PM
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How many women have even had plastic surgery? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 09:07 PM
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First, not all men did those things. Now this is epic and funny. Men must take collective guilt, but never collective accomplishment. Meanwhile, feminists will always frame things as 'we fought for our rights', despite the fact that the people saying that are too young to have done so. I mean, I think identity group pride (in the vein of 'white men built this country' and not like, LGBT pride, which is different) and guilt/shame is always cringe, but you can't have it both ways. If you blame men…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:53 PM
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Society has obviously never cared about men lol. Men have always been the ones sent to die in wars and in mines. Men are always called on to sacrifice themselves for women. Even now, men are shamed if they don't step in to protect a woman from another man, even if they didn't do so because they feared for their own life. The only men society cares for and protects are the rich and powerful.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 04:04 PM
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No one cares if a man gets sterilized. A man gets his testicles chopped off by his wife and feminist talk shows make jokes about it. A woman loses her ability to have children and it's a tragedy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:35 PM
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I love my husband and we have had a wonderful time with each other. He smells perfect and his intelligence and competencies are what drew me in. Your tune only changed when called out. Do you think that if you are not a Chad you cannot get someone to love you? Sorta kinda. Women naturally select for the best genes. If you have dogshit genes, too bad, so sad. The red pill has really done a number on this generation. The red pill is cope. BTW I went to a wedding of a 5. 6.5 guy 3 years ago. And? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 03:33 PM
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Do you think my husband will win beauty contests? You're not even attracted to your own husband. Extremely brootal. A very beautiful woman I know, in her 30s now, had pretty much given up on men. She tried again and decided to give this guy a try because he made her breakfast. She was amazed. She'll get bored, start missing the far better men, and either leave or cheat. And so the cycle goes on and on without end.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:13 PM
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I'd rather come across a hungry wolf than any person. Humans are such miserable things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:02 PM
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Because men are expendable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 09:40 PM
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I think as this idea of “gender equality” becomes more widespread culturally and women are viewed as on equal standing with men, we’re going to see a decrease in men financially donating to female streamers like Pokimane. If it’s not already happening, I think people will start to view popular streamers more as the evil wealthy instead of a girl in a male dominated online space needing a helping hand. Disagreed. If any men did donate to Pokimane for this reason, it was less than one percent. I'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:12 PM
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An actual millionaire bitching about men not buying her enough things is very funny to me. But of course, women want equality, but still want men to earn more, initiate, approach, take all the risks, be willing to sacrifice themselves, etc. And they love to make fun of men's issues, even telling us we have no issues, we get all the benefits of society, all the privilege, and so on. We're all made to answer for the worst members of our gender, but you're a misogynist if you ever use your past per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:39 AM
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It ain't horrible, persay, but both men and women with high body counts have a higher chance of cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:30 AM
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The only thing manosphere dipshits get wrong is not also shaming slutty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:24 AM
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'I mean slutty, not the thing everyone associates with the word 'slutty'.' Bruh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:23 AM
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Ironically my friend who has a very high body count (70+) is as vanilla as they come and currently isn’t having much sex these days in her LTR because she’s lost interest Having sex with more people diminishes your ability to pairbond over time, also making sex in general less fun. By the time someone with a high body count settles down, sex with their partner will be just as 'blah' as sex with any stranger. Studies have shown this in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:22 AM
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The vast majority of women simply aren't attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:19 AM
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I don't want a trad wife or a bible thumping con either. Problem with the kind of woman you're describing, however, is that she (just like anyone who's had a lot of casual sex with different people, men included) has a much higher chance to cheat. Studies have shown this in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:19 AM
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That’s because that desire comes with lack of caring about our desires, especially with regard to sex and domestic labor 'Men are le evil.' At least be creative. I’d love to have a wife, as a woman Yes, because the vast majority of women aren't actually attracted to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:51 AM
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Leave me be. Men. Women. All the same to me. I'll not fight any war for any of you who would do nothing for me. Let me rot in peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 12:35 AM
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Men also desire connection, intimacy, comfort, emotional support, and more from women, which women prefer to get from other women and dogs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:57 PM
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You cited this study wrong too. It says one in five women will experience attempted or completed rape, not that one in five have been raped. Does it really matter who the rapist is? Obviously? How is this even a question? Repeat offenders point to the fact we have a culture that allows for rape. This point makes zero sense. Why is rape illegal if our culture allows for it? The problem is that rape is a very difficult crime to investigate due to lack of physical evidence. Theft, random assault an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:54 PM
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Reliable people, who can be depended on, are usually valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:34 PM
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I mean the human species would definitely still survive with "only" one million women. It really makes no sense to think otherwise. I dunno. That'd be 4 billion men fighting over the remaining women. You said it yourself, men with no outlet for sex go wild. Without it, you would very quickly have large numbers of undesirable men turning violent (ancient incels) Incels are sedated today. Porn, video games, doomscrolling, jobs that keep us wealthy enough to afford just enough luxurious to not go i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:33 PM
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Dependence isn't, but the reliability that creates that dependence has been.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:15 PM
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It's more than just sex, but I wouldn't expect you to understand. Men are just dogs who only think with their cocks, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:14 PM
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Studies have proven that women rate 80% of men as below average.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:06 PM
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People don't want to develop interpersonal skills. They want to doomscroll on tiktok and play fortnite and goon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 10:52 PM
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Why should they have any?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 08:34 PM
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No. The inherent problem that none of the pill communities, with the exception of some of the blackpill, will accept or understand, is that women are inherently far more valuable on a biological level. One woman can only be impregnated by one man every ten to eleven months. One man can theoretically impregnate as many women in a day as times he can ejaculate. The woman who is recorded to have had the most children was a Russian peasant who birthed 69 (nice) children, most of which were twins, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 06:16 PM
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People aren't citing being poor as the main reason for not dating or having kids, in fact, many people claim they need a partner to help with rent. The simple fact is that people don't want other people so much as the idea of other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:55 PM
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Men are told they have to be strong. Dependence is not seen as strength today. Independence is praised above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 05:49 PM
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I think many of them feel like admitting the importance of looks would be like them saying that they're shallow and only care for looks. We see what usually happens in otherwise normal and happy marriages when one partner becomes suddenly disfigured. The problem that blues can never overcome is that reality reaffirms the blackpill at every turn, and all they can do is point out exceptions that often have easy explanations.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:34 PM
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It's because they never understand what we mean when we say that looks are the most important factor. They also never understand that most men are hideous to them, because they never even look at those men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:23 PM
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You're citing the 1 in 5 stat wrong. The stat comes from a 2007 study that only analyzed two colleges, and it wasn't rapes, it was any sexual assault, including guys going in for an unwanted kiss, which muddies the statistics, yet it's still often cited as proof that 20% of men are rapists. The problem is, other studies have found that the vast majority of rape is committed by repeat offenders who can accrue dozens of victims over their lifetime. And none of what you said addressed what I said, …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:25 PM
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And getting raped also rarely happens compared to the interactions you've had with men. Doesn't change the equation for you though, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:57 PM
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Something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 01:54 PM
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Those two ideas aren't even believed by the majority of incels. He also didn't say that appearance is the only thing that matters. He said 'humans select mates for the most part based on appearance , then lie about it'. Personally, I think that appearance is the first thing that humans select for. Yes, other factors might be more important for a long term relationship, but appearance is the first threshold one must cross. 'Looks get you in the door' is a common rebuttal to incels. The problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:30 AM
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Doesn't matter. They'll just tell you that it barely happens compared to what happens to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:16 AM
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how can you even tell if the guy youre with is a bad person? Because he's a man, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 11:15 AM
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To 'give up' implies that I ever had a chance. To 'ignore all romantic aspirations' implies that I ever received any in the first place. It's simultaneously confusing and depressing to me that normies cannot fathom that there are men who are just completely invisible to women. Granted, I have had sex without money involved, but each time was with women that had much higher BMIs than me and came with many other things that made them unattractive in non-physical ways. I had no success in high scho…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 02:04 AM
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Sure, but your third point is just not accurate. I've heard plenty of women say that they only did those things for previous partners because those partners were 'just that hot/special' that they were willing to put up with something they didn't like. The obvious implication being that they don't love/feel as attracted to their current partner that they'd do the same thing for them. That's not catastrophizing when they all but said it. I also don't think this argument passes the gender flip test…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 02:24 PM
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Swamps act as filters for other bodies of water. There's no drinkable water in a swamp. You're always going to need to filter and purify it. Even the cleanest swamp water is going to make you sick if you're drinking it with zero attempt to clean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:51 PM
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Who do you think is more likely to date a man, a feminist woman or a conservative woman? 4b, 'decentering men', comphet, and many similar concepts are common among feminists. Hell, there's even subreddits dedicated to left wing women fetishizing right wing men, but I've yet to see the inverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 06:47 PM
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You'll never come up with an analogy they'll accept unless it's saying that all men are evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:57 AM
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Throughout most of human history, the most common way to meet your spouse was through family and friend connections.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:56 AM
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If you're saying that men are all like swamp water, then you're saying there's no good men. Swamp water is never drinkable. Unless you want to shit yourself to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 01:55 AM
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There have been studies on incels that have found the majority actually align center left on most political tests. Many redpillers, trads, MAGAts, etc. making posts and videos complaining about women usually aren't actually incels. The only one I can think of is Nick Fuentes, who actually calls himself an incel, but I buy into the conspiracy that he's actually gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 08:23 PM
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A far right wing man is far more likely to meet a far right wing woman willing to have kids than a far left wing man is to meet a far left wing woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 02:59 AM
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Are you able to comprehend that there is a world of people outside of yourself? This is literally that meme where one person says the average woman is 5'6" and the woman responds with 'um, I'm 5'10".' https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/05/10/most-us-parents-pass-along-their-religion-and-politics-to-their-children/ There, have a source.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:34 PM
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I feel that there are a few contributing factors and most people just want to focus on modern feminism being so unconvincing. To be clear, this is a problem. First and second wave feminism both demanded rights that almost everyone can reasonably agree on. There were a great amount of men that participated in both waves. Third wave feminism in particular just became Schizophrenic. Men are generalized as oppressors, murderers, rapists, and pedophiles by most feminists from the third wave on. Men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:38 PM
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This just isn't correct. Liberal women already have less children than conservative women. Likely, the more left wing you go on that axis, the less likely a woman is to have a child, as extreme leftists is either against men, too doomer about the state of the world, or straight up antinatalist. Meanwhile, every extreme right wing ideology promotes getting the birthrate up. The problem is, despite liberal/leftist cope that they'll just convert the children of conservatives, the vast majority of p…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:26 PM
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Oh god. Have fun with all the cheese down there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:48 PM
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Yeah idk bout you but swallowing a mouthful of snot is kinda nasty. Yes. I do really enjoy the taste of unwashed pussy and dick tho. Oh god 🤢 you people need to have more respect for yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 01:12 AM
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I tried it. It was like snot. I've tried to at least wash my shit the few times I've gotten lucky, though. Just asking for some common courtesy, here. I know it'll never taste like candy, but at least make sure he's not tasting something similar to an obese man's unwashed folds.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:34 AM
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A slightly sour/metallic taste is very normal. Fucking ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 12:15 AM
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I've only been down on 3 women and don't think I'll do it unless I know they cleaned beforehand. Of the 3, one tasted like nothing (I suspect she cleaned immediately beforehand, she was black and thick), one was very sour and unpleasant, but I worked through it like a trooper (white girl and very big), and the last was so vile I only got in one lick that was so disgusting I had to suppress an audible gag (another big white girl that I suspect hadn't showered in a day). I'm sure ladies have to de…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 03:07 PM
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Okay, what does 'ogle' mean to you? You said 'look at other women like that', not 'ogle'. To me, 'ogle' means to stare in a sexual manner to the point of not even trying to hide it, even making it obvious on purpose. 'Look at women like that' to me means taking a glance or looking for a second or two at a woman in a sexual manner that the woman likely won't notice, but even if she does, it was kept short and respectful. If he's attracted to women, I guarantee he's done the latter. If you truly t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 09:02 PM
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Is he attracted to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 07:06 PM
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Lmfao. Studies show that single women are the happiest demographic while single men are the most miserable. Give up the cope, lil bro. They hate us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:08 AM
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We all conduct ourselves in society expecting there to be individuals with ill intent. Every time you lock your front door, you are saying 'someone could come into my home and steal from me or assault me in some way, and I'm putting into place a measure to stop this'. This concept is so baked into society that we'd find it bizarre if a house had no locks. I'm not sure what you're suggesting here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 03:05 AM
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This might be the most delusional take I've ever heard lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 02:58 AM
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Premise is faulty as women simply will never be as attracted to men as men are to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:52 AM
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We need to stop teaching boys that they're worthy of love, or that they'll find a wife. I guarantee that would solve 99% of issues between the genders. Stop telling them that a woman will ever want them and to just find something else worth living for. Not only would this stop the creation of incels, it would free women of unwanted advances from men who genuinely mean well. It would also make creeps far easier to pick out, because the only ugly men approaching women would be the ones who don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:34 AM
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Eh, at this point, the only women I trust are my mother, and those that I'm paying for something, because then I know what they want for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:31 AM
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The most effective change would be to stop telling boys that they deserve love and will find a wife someday. If boys were taught that women want almost nothing to do with them, in guarantee you'd see way less incels and unwanted approaches. Hell, it'd make creeps easier to spot because the only ugly men interacting with women would probably not care about what the woman thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:29 AM
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I'm not talking like pubic hair or armpit hair. I'm talking so hairy that your hairline starts at your toes and goes up over your head, down your back and reaches the back of your ankles levels of hairy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 07:35 AM
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I wouldnt call fat and hairy a 'high beauty standard' lol. And hairy is masculine, but being fat really isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:22 PM
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If straight men had as much easy access to sex as gay men have, monogamy probably wouldn't even exist lol. There's like a billion stories of a husband opening a marriage then desperately trying to close it because he got one partner in a month and his wife got sixteen.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:45 PM
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Lesbians also do this wtf are you talking about? And I've always heard that twinks/femboys were the undisputed kings of the gay hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:43 PM
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One of the most popular gay archetypes is literally a big fat hairy guy. Wtf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:40 PM
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Yeah as far as I understand, they can only diagnose him based on his own word unless it's clear that he's suffering some severe and obvious psychological break and is a clear threat to himself or others. I'm not sure what else it could take for a third party's testimony to be taken into consideration. Again, I'm not a psychiatrist, so asking someone might help. If you don't live in a two party consent state, maybe you could record him secretly confessing his psychosis? I'm really not sure and I …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 07:20 PM
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gonna go hold my bf extra tight bc i’ve heard too many men express this idea and it hurts me. He's extremely lucky and one of a very tiny percentage of men. most men, most people deserve to love and be loved Disagree. This implies that love is 'owed' to them. This is what creates bitter, angry incels. If they were instead taught that it's something they'll be lucky to receive, but likely won't and aren't owed, then we wouldn't see so many angry men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:06 AM
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Well, no shit. It's the bare minimum for those women to love you, but it wasn't because you are a man. I'm talking about romantic love, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:02 AM
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The Eldritch truth is frightening, but it does us more harm to ignore it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:32 AM
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If he is experiencing actual psychosis, then it's very likely to be schizophrenia. Schizoid Personality Disorder and Schizophrenia both present as very similar to one another as both are likely to be reclusive to an extreme degree and experience social anhedonia. You also mentioned him acting and saying weird things as a teen, which is characteristic of Schizotypal Personality Disorder, another disorder with close ties to schizophrenia. To my knowledge, it's very common for someone to lack signs…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:31 AM
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Of all demographics, married men report the highest rates of happiness. Second is single women. I think it then goes married women in third and then single men last. Then you look at who initiates divorce more, how widowers are 70% more likely to die within one year of losing their spouse compared to wives, how the marriage rates plummeted after women were given more economic choice despite still having the option to marry men (a trend across several cultures), and things don't look too good lol…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:24 AM
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Women from poor countries won't love you either lol. They will only love your money. At best they'll be grateful for the life you give them, but they won't actually love you lol. Love is something only women get to experience for their entire life. Men only experience it as children. We really just need to teach boys to live without the idea that they'll ever experience love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 11:08 AM
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I mean, it's actually higher than that. More like 99.99% of men. The vast majority of 'straight' women say they've seen 5 attractive men their entire life and see dozens of gorgeous women daily. It's not really a problem for them, though. The majority of single women report being far happier on average than single men. Women are also three times more likely to identify as LBGT, a disparity that has only increased as time has gone on. Women hate us, bro. Pretending they're miserable without us is…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:58 AM
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An EA employee gets a good life? There truly is no justice in this cruel world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:13 AM
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Would he happen to match the qualifiers for Schizoid Personality Disorder?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:11 AM
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Interesting. I was also the weird kid in school, but ugly, fat, and barely over average height. I literally never fit in anywhere, especially in elementary school. I can remember extreme depressive thoughts and suicide ideation as early as 2nd grade. I kinda turned into a sad jester by middle school, because I never really learned how to read people. I still can't read people. I don't even feel emotional empathy, just cognitive. Got diagnosed with MDD at 19. Doesn't help that I went until 29 wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:09 AM
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Rollo is a copium huffing regard trying to deal with his decreasing viewership and testosterone. He couldn't even get the argument right. The original argument for having the right to vote stretches all the way back to the Ancient Greeks, where in most city-states, only men had the right to vote because they had to join the armies. The argument was that if you had to fight for a state, you should have the right to have a say in how the state conducts itself. Women did not have to fight, ergo, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 09:13 AM
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Why wouldn't you stand out? I don't care for attention. You could speak more freely. You can make life choices others just plain won't get, and unlike them, risk nothing. I still have to hold a job and maintain the ability to participate in society, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/26 03:51 AM
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Let's say your at peace with this, completely. You carry yourself as a man who is. You couldn't give a crap about how other people judge you by appearance or whatever. You assume this means I dress in a way that stands out? I dress very plainly, both for comfort and to minimize visibility. I blend in with walls I'm so boring. You don't even care if you lightly upset people sometimes by talking real. Your sense of social shame is now dead, so those situations are just objectively funny to you. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:14 PM
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How many men do you think are sexist?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:02 PM
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That seems like a large part of your troubles omitted, but I'm not you and I'm not a professional. 🤷‍♂️ I don't tend to begin every conversation with my diagnoses listed. Obviously most people signalboosting this are women. Why would men post and signalboost this stuff? I do it to spread the message that women hate us so that we may find different paths in life away from them. 39% is a pretty large number, I didn't say majority. In the US, that's the entire population of the UK-worth of women th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:43 PM
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I don't have a hyper niche type, though. I don't even have a racial preference. I've been attracted to women of all races, hair and eye colors, backgrounds, personalities, body types, etc. The list of what I'm not attracted to is a fraction of the list of what I am attracted to. No woman has ever shown interest in me, let alone approached me. I'm sorry, but it simply isn't the same for men. We have no inherent value in the dating market beyond what we can provide through great effort, unless we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 06:20 PM
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I mean, my point still stands. You still found someone despite your type being so niche. Most men cast a far larger net and many will never receive any interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:17 AM
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Humans inherently require socialization. Entire sections of our brain are dedicated to nothing but communication. These parts of the brain will atrophy without it. The reality is that the self is not built from within, it is formed from the reflection we see in the eyes of others. You can be the most confident and self assured person in the universe, if every person you tried to speak to only spat on you in response, you would begin to hate yourself. Even the most independent person in the world…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:22 AM
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The best for me would be to lose this desire for love, or death. To truly want for nothing is the only peace available to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:13 AM
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I mean, if you're exclusively attracted to the 'gay' type, then sure. That's also an extraordinary circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 03:08 AM
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Are you actually fully honest with your therapist? Does she push back more than you're letting on? I really doubt a professional would hear all this and be like "yeah makes sense" unless they were borderline abusive. Maybe she has a particular vision. I note that she is a woman and wonder what you think of that. I've not lied to her. We've not directly discussed my inceldom. Our sessions mostly focus on my depression, ADHD, Schizoid Personality Disorder, lack of self, emotional numbness, etc. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 02:37 AM
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Get therapy. Meh. On my third therapist. I mostly just use her to bounce ideas off of. This post is similar to posting graphic pictures of self-harm, and I believe it should be treated the same way. What about what I said was so unbelievable? The women you talk about are a fringe minority that are signalboosted on the Internet. A comedian recently did a stand up special for Netflix saying that loveless men are being filtered out by natural selection and there shouldn't be any more of their kind …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 12:58 PM
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The only men like that are either true loners or have plenty of women that are already interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:50 AM
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I need to find a way to stop speaking with analogies, as everyone seems to interpret them in ways I never intended. I was not trying to say that women are objects. In terms of the absolute of my situation, I'm ugly inside and out. My body is misshapen and fat with hair all over. My mind is plagued with at least three major mental illnesses, at least one of which has no proven treatment. My social circle is almost nonexistent. My age just reached 30. My finances are only stable because I live wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 06:31 AM
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I think the problem is you didn't want the men who would want the kind of girl you were.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:42 AM
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There's nothing to apologize for, as you didn't do this. No one really did. Women simply do not want me. It simply is. Rain falls. Wind blows. The sun will set as surely as it shall rise and no amount of protestations will change that. Happiness cannot be found in fighting the very earth beneath my feet. I cannot (and do not want to) force someone to love me, just as I cannot squeeze blood from a stone. The only request I can make as I leave is that the boys born after me be taught some other wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 05:36 AM
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I didn't say everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:04 AM
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The problem here is this: Women tell men this, not because they want to date that kind of man, but because they think it will make men happier. They don't know just how much men need women, especially for happiness. The problem is that the reverse simply isn't true. Women don't need men, they don't even want men. The system of patriarchy was created to make women need men for survival, while ensuring that men would have a reason to participate in society. Now that women don't need men, naturally…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:37 AM
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All of human socialization is a performance. The reality is, men need women far more than vice versa, so they will change much about themselves for the chance of attracting a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:22 AM
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The dating market is overwhelmingly full of men. A woman could have the most hyper specific niche ever and she'll still find men who fit it that will date her, so long as we're not talking about truly unrealistic standards, like expecting him to be in the top 5% earning bracket and top 2% of height simultaneously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 03:15 AM
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The Old Testament is fiction. You're not seeming to get the scale we're talking about here. This would have to be so constant that signs would show nearly every prehistoric tribe engaged in genocide. Archeology just doesn't show this. Massacres happened, but they weren't common, and most tribes seemingly remained largely peaceful and focused solely on survival, instead of seeking out other tribes to massacre and rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:50 AM
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Do you truly think it was common enough to account for 60% of all men to have never passed along their genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:16 AM
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You know you've lost the plot when you have to strawman this badly Me: 'Being attracted to black women isn't a fetish.' You: 'TIL black women aren't fetishized.' "I made up something you said. That's why you're strawmanning" I wasn't quoting you, I was following your logic. There's a difference. "There are sites" isn't proof of shit This was your way of justifying that being attracted to black women is a fetish. Show me where this is on pornhub. Show me where this is on xhamster. Or whatever the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:58 AM
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'People with bad social skills and/or mental disorders are lesser than me.'
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:42 AM
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You think that every person that has ever dated or had sex with a black woman has a fetish for black women? What you just did is a strawman fallacy. There are porn sites with a 'white' category, as well as categories for specific nationalities and other races. By your logic, being attracted to women at all is a fetish depending on the site. Determining what is or isn't a fetish by what does or doesn't have a category on porn sites is a truly terrible way of making that determination. (It isn't.)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:08 AM
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I wouldn't know. I have a personality disorder. I sit outside the spectrum of 'normal humanity'. I would guess that most men simply don't learn how to fulfill their deeper social needs beyond a relationship, as that is all they've learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 04:04 AM
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This is like asking someone to make peace with starvation, or thirst. Humans are social animals. There's a reason why we label people who genuinely have no interest in socialization with disorders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:53 AM
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Being attracted to obese women is considered a fetish. Being attracted to black women isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:52 AM
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I mean, most men have realized this. It's just that they rarely have anyone that's actually invested in their life, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:32 AM
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If this was true then there would be no black pornstars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:31 AM
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We're so used to it happening to us that it doesn't hurt, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:30 AM
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I think the problem is that women view confirmations on attractiveness as getting taken on dates, while for men, confirmation is them getting any attention from women at all. Women are so used to attention from men, positive and negative, that they only see men putting in effort as a confirmation that they're attractive. Men have a harder time being attractive because attention from men is always in very high supply and usually in low demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:29 AM
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The 2 to 1 ratio is still insane. This means that half of all men have never had a relationship or passed along their genes successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:12 AM
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He'll yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 08:11 PM
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What exactly is the distortion? If we took two men of the same attractiveness, but one had my mental disorders on his dating profile, which do you think would have more dating success?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:23 PM
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You never have people attracted to you? This just in, man finds out what 'incel' means. Are you putting yourself in social situations Not anymore these days. Too exhausting. using dating apps Was on bumble for 3 years and got maybe 4 matches only one of which led to a conversation that went nowhere. Prob should make yourself more attractive then. I've lost nearly 80 pounds. Still never looked at by any women. Why should people want to be with someone unattractive?, You or I wouldn't. This was ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:17 PM
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It is if someone decides your approach was too aggressive. And I go out in public all the time, I just don't draw attention to myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:10 PM
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(X) doubt
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:08 PM
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Yeah, as I suspected, it's over. I suppose it's good that I won't be passing along my cursed genes to later generations, anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:04 PM
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At what point is it best to admit to having severe mental illness? Once they're already invested? Should I advertise it up front? Wait until it becomes impossible to hide and before they realize they have better options? Doesn't seem like there's any good option, lol. Any sane woman would run.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 09:54 AM
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That's just not necessarily true lol. This is behavior that she could conceal until after marriage, just as some men conceal their abuse until after marriage. The only only men who can sleep around like that typically won't settle for a woman they don't find attractive. Sure, though, it could be a sign that he sees her as more attractive personality wise as opposed to more physically attractive past partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 05:14 AM
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I mean, there's plenty of posts by women explaining that they settled for their husbands. And yeah, usually women tend to be more polite and agreeable, so they'll say something like 'husband material' thinking it's a compliment that will soothe a man's ego. The real proof will always be her actions. If she's simply not passionate with her husband, never initiating sex or intimacy, talking longingly about her exes, mostly indifferent to him or his interests, shaming him when he's down, etc., how …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:56 AM
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Well, I'm not autistic, but it's common that autistic women are stereotyped as cute and quirky, while autistic men are stereotyped as creepy and/or annoying. The former is a positive stereotype, while the latter is negative, but neither is necessarily good, as both can dehumanize. I've got a host of other disorders: ADHD-I, MDD, and Schizoid Personality Disorder. No woman will ever find the 'real me' attractive, and I'm not interested in manipulating a woman into doing so. I wish I could have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:41 AM
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I'm sure there's many, but I'm sure they aren't the majority. Women were essentially forced to settle for men for survival in the past. This mentality still lingers a little, but it's slowly fading with each generation. They will become the majority simply because we will see the marriage rate continue to decline as women continue to decenter men and monogamy becomes less valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:31 AM
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No one is or should be surprised that people in general find attractive people attractive. The disconnect is that women do not find their 'looksmatch' attractive. Women are naturally more valuable on a biological level. This means that attractive men are happy and willing to sleep with women that are less attractive than they are. The patriarchal system had to be created at the dawn of civilization to disenfranchise women so that they would have to rely on a man for survival. Guaranteeing men a …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:20 AM
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We know that when women say this, they mean that they are fine settling for this man, but not actually attracted to or truly in love with him, just comfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 04:02 AM
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So I want them to match my energy (unless life gets temporary in the way of that). Does this effectively mean that there's no hope for those of us with clinical depression? Lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:53 AM
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I've discovered that humans love lying and do it all the time. The creepiest to me is 'politeness'. People will smile at a stranger on meeting them for the first time for no reason other than to be 'polite'. I think it's creepy and unnerving, but everyone else seems to love it, as everyone reacts positively to a smiling face, even if they know it isn't genuine. I really don't know how everyone is so okay with presenting a mask to each other all the time. If people stopped lying altogether, the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:45 AM
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Once people realize that radfems were right about Comphet we'll be in a better place. Men just need to accept that women will literally never love them and never have.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:41 AM
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just look for the people who are already attracted to you Ah, shit! That's the problem! I forgot my Find People Who Are Attracted To Me Radar™️ at home!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:39 AM
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So would you admit that women seeing speaking with a man as 'emotional labor' is a sign that they hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:36 AM
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Yes. Men are taught as boys that they must earn a girl's attention and respect and if they can't, then they are a loser and worth nothing to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:34 AM
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Don't women complain about having to have sex and listen to men talk about their hobbies and getting the ick the first time their bf cries or acts soft?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:32 AM
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Well, women have made it clear that they hate seeing the real side of a man, so it's either mask and experience some facsimile of love, or nothing at all. I chose the latter because masking is exhausting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:28 AM
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Also, if someone consistently feels like love has to be earned through achievement, status, or outperforming others, that often traces back to conditional affection. A lot of people grow up receiving praise, reassurance, or warmth only when they succeed. So they internalize this idea that love equals performance. That is not misogyny necessarily. But it is unhealthy. This is simply how the majority of men are raised. Even within their school system (mostly staffed by women) they are taught that …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:25 AM
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I think the difference is that men have been conditioned to accept that this is simply what a man has to do to be loved. It's not that the men hate the entire relationship, they just feel exhausted about this particular aspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:19 AM
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Men shouldn't approach at any of these places because of the risk to themselves, and because the women almost certainly won't like it. At work, he risks losing his job. At school, he risks getting reported and facing discipline. At both, he risks rumors and social ostracization. In public, he risks less, but at all, he could be recorded and go viral online and known as a loser and/or creep. Why any man would want to take this risk is insane to me. And women have made it clear, they hate being ap…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 03:08 AM
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I mean, for anyone paying attention to how 'straight' women describe men vs how they describe women, among many other things, the existence of comphet has become increasingly obvious. Most women simply have a natural hatred of men, even their own male offspring. Men are only ever viewed positively if they are 'of use' and more and more men are becoming useless. As designer babies become reality, women will naturally choose their babies to be born as girls. I think there may still be a tiny amoun…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 08:48 AM
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Why would they? Why would someone rise above their own instincts to sleep with someone they don’t find attractive? Thought experiment: you have an attractive partner you love. They get involved in a freak fire accident that destroys their face, making their entire head scarred. Should they try to get over their 'animal instincts' or just abandon their partner? Don’t be ridiculous people date to eventually have sex. Men complain all the time on this sub about women merely waiting to have sex now …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 02:43 AM
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Except I'm not. I've been to 2 psychiatrists and 3 therapists and not once was I diagnosed with social anxiety. This is because I don't have it. In most social interactions, I don't feel anxious so long as there's a purpose. In interacting with cashiers, customers, doctors, and so on, I'm fine, because I know why I'm there, why the other is there, what we both want, and what to say and expect. It's regular interactions that I hate. I lack emotional empathy, so I can't read their emotions immedia…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 11:02 PM
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Those are completely different things. Groping is obviously worse and should be something a person gets fired for. And I never tried hitting on her. That's just not something I try. I've given up on most human interactions. The complex nature of flirting is beyond my grasp as someone who can't read others or 'feel their energy'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:19 PM
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I mean, it goes beyond dating. There was a woman at a warehouse I worked at that got known as a serial HR reporter and got several men fired until no one talked to her anymore. Each time a fresh batch of new hires came in, they'd go to her desk for help before the guy next to her, but after a few weeks, they'd all go to the guy instead lol. Even the other women at work agreed that the stuff she was reporting guys for was stuff they'd never get offended over.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 10:04 PM
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The bluepiller is waking up!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:58 PM
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Has anyone ever identified Andrew Tate as MGTOW? He definitionally is not MGTOW. Most of his identity is wrapped up in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 09:42 AM
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So then, women who don't have to worry about pregnancy just aren't able to rise above their 'animal instincts'? Sounds kinda misogynistic, ngl lol. Also, you know you can date without having sex, right? Do you understand? If technology advances to a point that women no longer have to carry babies in their own womb, and can instead grow them in an artificial one, does this mean they won't be as selective anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 07:39 AM
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By OP's own logic, women who can't give birth, be it due to choice or genetic chance, have no reason to be careful or selective with dating. Women complain about dating all the time lol. There was an entire social movement calling men sexist for having weight preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/26 12:04 AM
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What does pregnancy and childbirth have to do with dating? By your logic, sterile women and women who get their tubes tied have nothing to complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/26 11:59 PM
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Of course it makes sense that women are more picky, especially when it comes to having kids. The problem is, most women (55%) in the US don't even want kids anymore. The truth is that women really just hate men and want nothing to do with us. They say it themselves. They don't need us or want us. They think we're good for nothing. They want to decenter us. Speaking with us is 'emotional labor'. Boys need to be taught that women will not love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 06:07 AM
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It's simple, really. Boys need to stop being taught that they're 'worthy' of love, or that they 'deserve' it. They need to know that women owe them nothing and don't need them and probably won't want them. They need to be taught to find happiness without love from women. Perhaps, we'll find mandatory medication for ugly boys to ensure they never develop a libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:47 AM
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The only times I've felt like I could stop masking, relax, and be close with someone physically, emotionally, and mentally, was with a woman. Some of those moments were the only time I felt like I could share intimacy with another person and experience pleasure and softness. Of course, I regretted it every single time, because the things I did or said in moments that I thought were tender and quiet and between only two people, were always used against me. I would always hear someone else mention…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 05:19 AM
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I've been professionally diagnosed with MDD, ADHD-I, and Schizoid Personality Disorder. I agree with OP. I'm a very difficult person to talk to. I'm medicated (Sertraline+Adderall), but I'm still extremely cold and distant with basically everyone. I have severe anhedonia, especially social anhedonia. I never get happy, giddy, joyful, excited, or much of anything. I just simply am. Before the meds, I would have semi-frequent depressive episodes where even walking felt difficult because I just wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 08:21 AM
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This is just how most men date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:50 AM
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If she never initiates sex or any other kind of intimacy, she ain't into you. It she talks about her exes more than you, she ain't into you. If she talks about how sex with her exes was better, she ain't into you. If she talks about how she used to have sex more frequently with her exes, she ain't into you. I feel like it ain't that hard. She doesn't have to pretend her exes never existed, but constantly talking about them in a positive light, especially if she speaks more positively about them …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:37 AM
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Women simply hate hearing a man speak about anything other than women's issues. Even then, you might get labeled as performative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:14 AM
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It clearly doesn't vary by time. Genetic science shows that every human has twice as many female ancestors as they do male ancestors. This means that of all the men ever born, half never passed along their genes. This could be partially explained by men dying before they mated, and women and girls being stolen by stronger men, but the most likely answer is the simplest: roughly half of the men in our 300,000 years of existence were simply not attractive enough to women, and the women would rathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 05:03 AM
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Don't you know that everything can be explained by: man=bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 04:53 AM
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No one said they couldn't say no. I also can't control how other people interpret my actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:36 AM
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Oh, I'm not redpill. I think they're peacocking losers. I'm something beyond blackpill. I just don't hate women for not wanting me lol. But most bluepillers are feminist. They blame men for not 'meeting women's standards when the bar is in hell'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 01:18 AM
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Is a single bad thing less bad because it happens less often on a collective level?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 09:03 AM
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Dating is hard Bluepill literally denies this lol. Bluepill is just that any man who struggles is entirely at fault for not having success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:55 AM
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bar/club I've seen plenty of women also say not to approach at these places. friends of friends Sounds like a good way to mess with a social circle. people at work Also heard from women that this is a terrible place. I also wouldn't suggest it because you could easily lose your job. school Maybe the only acceptable one, but I'm sure it could also cause problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 08:54 AM
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I never approach women. I'm polite and distant. I can usually tell that they find me disgusting if they even notice my presence. There's no point in humiliating myself for something that'll never happen anyways. I'm not ending up the subject of a viral tiktok.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:30 AM
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Approach lukewarm/warm leads. As in build a friendship first? Women also tell men that it's shitty to only make friends with a woman to ask her out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:25 AM
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Certified real
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:22 AM
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You will not be able to tell which women want to be approached and which ones don’t. That's why I never approach lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:22 AM
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You just don't understand how truly evil men are. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:17 AM
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Real <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:16 AM
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This is because creeps never stopped approaching, while men who did listen were more likely to be respectful on approach, but took the messaging as 'stop approaching'. Creeps, if they even listened, never gave a shit about how women feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:12 AM
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How are you bluepilled? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 06:03 AM
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By this logic, isn't it fine for a man to say he hates women when hearing a story about a wife murdering her husband? I think two things can be bad at once, and just because they're both bad doesn't mean that they're the same level of bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:43 AM
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/s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:29 AM
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I was joking that it's easy for me to be unpopular, because no one likes me lol. I don't have to make any effort to be unpopular.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:29 AM
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And the darkly comedic part is, the men who should be approaching, the ones who are worried about being a creep or scaring women, stopped approaching because they listened. Real creeps didn't listen or give a shit, so they keep creeping on women. This has actually led to women having more creepy interactions with men on average because they have less interactions with men overall, but probably about the same creepy interactions. Quite the interesting conundrum. And I don't think people would lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:27 AM
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I will never do this because what you call "misandry" is typically a justified reaction to what men are doing. Is a man responsible for the actions of some members of his gender? What is it when it isn't justified? Misogyny causes material harm so if those are his parameters, he's worthless to me because men who try to pull false equivalencies are unsafe. This argument means that it's perfectly fine to be racist to Chinese people in China because they hold the institutional power there. Being ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:18 AM
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Sexism and racism can be personal choices. I'm just not sure how it isn't sexist. You're making a decision/judgement on an individual based upon their gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 01:00 AM
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I feel like this cedes an uncomfortable amount of ground to racists, but okay lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:57 AM
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I think the problem being run into is when you stop treating people as individuals, and more as representatives who must answer for the worst of their gender, or somehow prove that they aren't one of the worst. You might not find a problem with my example, but I've been called a misogynist for bringing it up before. I think there's many reasons men might react negatively to these kinds of stats being brought up to them. To some degree, it might sound to them like you're telling them that you thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:36 AM
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Yeah, every woman I've asked has said she didn't care about men's mental health, excluding my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 03:03 AM
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Huh, that's odd. You even admitted that you hadn't experienced what you claimed from every man. Why are the standards different for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:48 AM
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Given my own personal experiences and what I've overwhelmingly seen online, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:43 AM
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So I'm free to take the many tiktoks of women making fun of men's mental health as evidence that all women want men to end their own lives, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:24 AM
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I'm sorry you experienced that from 4 billion men. 😔 I'm glad we aren't treating genders as a monolith. I could swear there's a word for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:18 AM
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I mean, once we get past extremes, it's going to get murky, especially with no context. If you're using those stats to justify how you act around every man no matter the context, I'd side eye you. If you're using them to justify why you wouldn't be alone in a house with a man you've only known for an hour, I'd understand. I think if you're trying to make any random man answer for the crimes of other members of his gender, we could probably agree and say that was unreasonable, same if I tried to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:15 AM
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It would still come down to physical attraction. If you're given three guys with the same answers to the questionnaire, it'll naturally come down to who's more attractive. And it would be the same way for a man facing three women. Since there are more men on dating apps, this is just how it would go. I tried to be more selective based on compatibility for several months on bumble and got nothing, so I just went to the clusterbomb method that most men on the apps employ and got a few matches that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 02:05 AM
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Men do be a hivemind. Hey brothers, check out this meme I'm thinking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:53 AM
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it's hard to be unpopular I've found it to be pretty easy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:52 AM
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You add nothing to this discussion but straight salt My brother in Christ, you answered your own question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:50 AM
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refuse to acknowledge our risk to being raped, murdered, and getting pregnant causes us to act a lot more logically and less emotionally/lustfully than them. And they don't get it I can understand this perfectly fine. I simply have no clue how to signal that I'm not a danger while also being attractive, so I don't bother approaching women at all. I get that I could form friendships with women, but I'm socially anhedonic and Schizoid. I don't experience much pleasure from socialization. But that'…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:48 AM
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They're 'one of the good ones' lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:38 AM
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I think the most simple way is if you expect men to call out their friends for misogyny, if you would do the same for misandry. Any time one of your friends starts going off on an 'I hate men' rant to just tell them to chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:36 AM
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Finally, some honesty. Refreshing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:31 AM
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Most men will still end up with no matches to speak of anyways. Would probably help women though. Would probably help women. I could see it being abused though. Dating apps have just become a more optimized and efficient version of how human courtship has always played out. Men initiate, women choose the best one. Men have always been more interested in women than the vice versa. As technology allows for courtship to radically increase in speed, selection, and distance, this was always going to …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:12 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 12:05 AM
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Notice how it comes before self-esteem. How you feel about yourself will largely be determined by how people react to you. If no one wants to have sex with you, your self-esteem will be affected, just as it would if no one wanted to be your friend. Yes, there are other forms of intimacy, but they fall under friendship and family.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:51 PM
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Isn't the common trend for women complaining about having to do 'emotional labor' (talking to) for their boyfriends too much? If anything, seems like men want companionship from women far more than the voice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 07:46 PM
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This data displays a net decrease in overall relationships by 3%. I never claimed this started overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 06:49 AM
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So then, there's no 'loneliness epidemic'? And relationships/sex aren't on a decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:53 AM
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I unfortunately seem to be unable to completely divorce myself from physical attraction. I've slept with very unattractive women, and regretted it pretty much every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:51 AM
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I suppose that's a word for it. It'd be nice to be loved and accepted by a woman, but they simply want nothing to do with me. And I've no interest in forcing anyone to do anything. A 'state-issued gf' doesn't interest me because there'd be no love there. Nor would there be for a disenfranchised woman who has to settle for a man because rightoids rolled back her rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:48 AM
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I think red pillers are peacocking losers lol. And I'm not really mad at women. I get why people think I am, but I'm really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:07 AM
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<image> I guess 50.3% is technically a majority lmao. Curious what they mean by 'sexual activity'.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:52 AM
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and I genuinely believe that the male loneliness epidemic will be dwarfed by a female one in a generation or two Eh, don't think so. Single women often report zero interest in being around men, and the percentage of women identifying as LGBTQ+ identities keeps rising. More than likely, as women keep choosing to have babies on their own, and genetic science reaches the 'designer babies' stage, they'll choose to overwhelmingly have daughters over sons, and men will become a rare curiosity. Women t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:40 AM
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Two thirds of men under 30 are single, with about one third reporting that they've never had a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:32 AM
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Have you done it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:49 PM
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If you can't even get through the door, your personality doesn't matter one bit. Every problem you mentioned are just as common in women as well. No one pretends that no woman cares about personality just because some men are so hot they can still attract some women no matter what. This is just a classic strawman. Is this just bait?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:47 PM
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both genders are equally easily attracted to one another They aren't. You can look up hundreds of videos on the 'chopped man epidemic' right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 12:31 PM
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It's just impossible to believe that some amount of that percentage was simply early men being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:59 AM
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Nobody said half of men die as kids. They would have to be dying before having a chance to reproduce. You just need imbalance, not mass wipeouts. Half of men is a mass wipeout, lol. Polygyny being “normal” still isn’t women’s desire. It happens because the guys with weapons and land get women, not because women are excited to share. No one said anything about excitement. Choosing to have kids with the higher value man can be down to logic as much as sexual excitement. Show me where I called men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:56 AM
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We're not talking about today in 2026. We're talking about 300,000 years of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:50 AM
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Elite polygyny: that wasn’t women happily “choosing” top men. Elites controlled women. They were captured, traded, inherited, or married off. Don't really have proof one way or the other. Class: isn’t new. Even tribes had hierarchy, leaders, warriors, raiders. Status didn’t start with modern society. Lol, what's the difference between a warrior and a raider? War/conquest: it doesn’t require half of men dying daily. Men die in raids, defence, hunting, and fights across generations. That alone shr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:49 AM
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Go outside and most average dudes are in relationships/marriages. Studies are finding that the percentage of single men are starting to overtake the percentage of men in relationships in many cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:28 AM
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Whelp, the answers are about what I expected. Lol. Been wondering if chemical castration was a good idea to get rid of sexual urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 04:01 AM
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No? Do you think men had less control over women once agriculture began?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:07 PM
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We can easily assume early humans were reproducing soon after finishing puberty. What you're saying is that boys would have had to be dying in wars at a rate of about 50%. We can assume that early tribes had conflict, but at this high of a rate? It would have to be a near daily occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 10:03 PM
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I don't really care much.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 07:47 AM
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We're talking about prehistory for the most part, here, before armor and manufactured weapons. And we're not talking about fighting, so much as wrestling. Though, I suppose, in a weird way, the weaker women would be the ones passing down their genes, meaning it might be balanced out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:49 AM
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Isn't it much more likely that powerful men choose that structure and cock block weaker men? This is possible, sure, but if the women truly hated this arrangement, why didn't they simply kill the powerful man in his sleep? Why didn't they they just run away with the other man into the night? The women aren't helpless, even if men are stronger on average. When might makes right, and women have limited agency, how is it women are the architects of mating strategy and not men? Why do you assume the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:47 AM
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How would prehistoric men have done this?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:35 AM
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What about this seems unlikely to you? Monogamy is the norm throughout recorded history. Throughout every culture, including those were polygamy was legal, overwhelmingly, men and women still partnered one with one according to historical records. Our genetic record proves that monogamy cannot be how we've mated throughout our entire existence, however, as shown by each of us having twice as many female ancestors. This is likely because early women preferred to mate with 'higher value' men over …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:34 AM
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For the replacement level to even be maintained, these men would have to be regularly impregnating the same women. And the other half of men would all be getting killed before even finishing puberty. It should also show in more generic diversity in the offspring, since these would assumably be men from other tribes coming in. How is that more believable than polygyny simply being the norm? I'm not accusing women of being evil, lol, as you are accusing men of being.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:24 AM
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elite polygyny That's literally what hypergamy is described as tho. Women preferring high value men over low value men. Sometimes to the point of choosing to be with a man with multiple wives than to be the one wife of a lower value man. I don't even think this is a common mindset nowadays, but it was likely our primary mating strategy over hundreds of millennia instead of monogamy. class A relatively new concept. If tribes had classes, they were likely based on age group and whoever was the lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:14 AM
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Idk if they'll ever understand, but thank you for trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:00 AM
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I can't tell if you're trolling at this point or not. I'll try to be as blunt and simple as possible. Can one man impregnate two different women within a 9 month time span, yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/26 01:00 AM
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You think it was the primary method of reproduction?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:19 PM
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😑 Read it again. In the example, of the four people, one male mates with the two females, while the remaining male doesn't mate at all. One person has one male and one female parent, yes, but one male can contribute twice to a family tree by mating with two women, whose descendants go on to mate with each other. Now take this pattern and apply it to 300,000 years of human existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:59 AM
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Sure, but we're also talking about prehistory here. Written history only goes back 6000ish years. The agricultural revolution, and thus the birth of human civilization, was roughly 12,000 years ago. Homo sapiens emerged around 300,000 years ago. Those 288,000ish years are far more likely where our mating patterns developed, compared to the far more recent millennia. And considering genetic science has found that every human has roughly twice as many female ancestors compared to male ancestors, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:55 AM
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It's literally just a genetic fact. You can look it up. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:47 AM
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If force was the only mating strategy, humans would likely have far greater muscle mass, as strength would be the only determinator of reproduction. We also likely would never have built a civilization if we never worked together.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:21 AM
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Every human has twice as many female ancestors as they do male. For your explanation of hypergamy to coexist with this genetic fact, this system of control would have had to have existed before written history.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 10:17 AM
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Still means that the men who did pass on their genes had children with two women, meaning monogamy wasn't a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 07:26 AM
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You think two thirds of men under 30 are redpillers? Lol. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:56 AM
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You're misunderstanding. Half of men have contributed to the gene pool compared to women. For your explanation to work, it would have to be the women dying more, not the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 07:41 AM
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Pure facts my guy. That stat is based on a static data point. It's years old at this point. Why are y'all so committed to old data. It just weakens your points. 2 years old lol. It's post-pandemic. What about mod-2023 was so vastly different from now? That's great news. People live longer Life expectancy is decreasing in the US. Lol. Men aren't breaking their bodies by 35 to support a family of 7+. Men would do a lot for love and purpose. Y'all aren't ready to be husbands. Y'all are hardly capab…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 04:23 AM
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Decenter women. Unlearn the silly lie that you'll ever be able to be enough for one. Women want nothing to do with us, and they're all too proud to display it. Listen to them. They'll tell you as they mock our suicide rate and celebrate not having to do anything involving us. You just have to give up on that fantasy called 'love'.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:28 AM
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Single at the time of the survey I guarantee, if those same people were surveyed again tomorrow, the results would be different. Lmao, this is a funny comeback. Pure vibes and nothing else. Additionally, sounds like men over 30, are doing just fine. It comes down to around one in four. Still a lot higher than previous generations. Almost like under 30 is for being single and having low/no strings attachment. For women under 30, the number drops to one third being single. There are literally twic…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:22 AM
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If you're an 8 or higher or a woman, then yeah. Getting dates is easier than ever. Sub 8 men are simply filtered before they can even speak, though. They can't compete with the 10s that women are willing to share with other women. This problem will only become worse as monogamy gets phased out entirely. Our mating patterns encourage women to select the most genetically attractive man possible, and one man has no concrete limit on how many women he can impregnate. Patriarchy encouraged monogamy t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:14 AM
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That is true but there are still many that don’t have that filter set. Especially because I’m fairly certain it’s a paid feature. Doesn't stop them from just swiping left the second they see a 5 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:07 AM
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Most women prefer men who are adults with jobs. If this were true, two thirds of men under 30 wouldn't be single lol. This isn't even a bluepill take. It's like a brownpill take.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:00 AM
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Well you seemed more bothered about this person making a positive generalization than OP claiming that all autistic men deserve negative treatment because they're willful psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 01:02 AM
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I saw some study saying 32% of Gen Z women identified as some form of LGBTQ+ compared to 11% of Gen Z men, but I could have those percentages wrong. The fact that each of us has twice as many female ancestors is enough to prove that monogamy was far from prevalent. If it was, that would mean that half of all women cheated on their partners, which I just don't think was that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:47 PM
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What? I'm sure plenty of single men were born to single moms, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 08:40 PM
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Are you only upset by positive generalizations and not negative ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:45 AM
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Does this study also prove your point that they blame everyone else? The phenomenon can be pretty easily understood in just how differently boys and girls are taught to socialize. Also, this study is specific to adolescents, but you also rant about college aged guys throughout this thread. Depressed people still have to work on their mental health rather than blame everyone for their inactions. Yes, and like with autism, there's no guarantee that they'll ever be able to fully fix their life. Aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:36 AM
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I don't really think they should. I think it's pretty understandable that this is the new situation we find ourselves in. Women have always been the more desirable of the two sexes, and so, have always been the ultimate gatekeepers of sex. It makes perfect sense that they'd prefer the most desirable men, if they wanted men at all, which we're seeing more and more women actually don't. According to our genetic record, every human has twice as many female ancestors as they do male, despite monogam…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 04:05 AM
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I'm sorry, lol wut? As far as I know, there's no medicinal treatment for autism, no magic pill that they're too lazy to take. Therapy can help, I'm sure, but you're talking about a lifelong genetic mental disorder that is due to a difference in brain structure and chemistry. They can 'work on it' in the same way people with clinical depression/dysthymia, ADHD, or a personalty disorder can. You seem to have no real clue what you're talking about lol. 20 years ago, you'd be the kind of person to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 03:36 AM
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Are we talking about actual autism here? Autistics in general struggle with expressing or understanding empathy in general. They don't lack it. Very few people truly lack empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 01:13 AM
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Only if it's cooler than mine. I like that both my names are two syllables.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:37 AM
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I'm not even sure what this is trying to say. It's a common saying that men will fuck anything that moves. I've lowered my standards a ton, as most average to below average guys have. Of course we're all arrested to the most attractive people, but I've been surprised at how low I'm able to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/26 12:35 AM
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It certainly does feel this way lol. Any man who is close to a feminist will only ever be 'one of the good ones'. You'll have to listen to her constantly put down your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 09:23 PM
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Be for real, when was the last time you even heard someone call themselves a Male Rights Activist? The movement died. They either faded from the public eye or radicalized. Most call themselves redpill or just full on conservative now. The only public figure that even fits the idea of an MRA is Scott Galloway, and feminists fucking hate him, but so does the right and the manosphere. Early MRAs were very passionate about men's issues. Earl Silverman bankrupted himself running a privately funded me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:43 AM
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If you're asking why men's rights haven't worked with feminists, it's because the largest men's rights group is the manosphere This is only the case because the MRA movement was killed because feminists attacked it so hard that men who witnessed that moved to radical anti-feminist groups instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:12 AM
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Well, when they got spat on by feminists, men instead flocked to actively anti-feminist movements instead. Men were told feminism wasn't for them, despite supporting early feminism, so they made their own advocacy groups. Those advocacy groups then got attacked by feminists, so men radicalized away from that. What exactly did feminists expect?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:08 AM
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We can be allies, but to be allies we need someone to ally with. Feminists relentlessly attacked the MRA movement into non-existence, and also sneer at the term 'egalitarian'. Men who were/would've been interested in those movements radicalized into the redpill. You didn't solve our issues, why do you think we owe it to you to solve yours? Men participated heavily in both first and second wave feminism. Do you think it was women lawmakers that gave women the right to vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 04:04 AM
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The MRA movement died in the day that a MRA event in 2013 at a Toronto university was protested by more feminists than people who actually attended the event. They screamed and chanted in the halls loud enough to make it nearly impossible to hear any speakers inside the lecture hall and celebrated when a fire alarm was pulled, causing the event to be evacuated. There were other similar events. I remember it getting covered by many proto-redpill content creators at the time. I'm sure it caused ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 03:59 AM
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Me sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 10:28 PM
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Usually it isn't even that, it's gazing at him for 1.5 seconds as an 'obvious sign'.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:03 AM
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Incorrect. The best and safest option for everyone is to never approach. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 05:01 AM
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slam dunk Man, why do redpillers gotta be so fucking cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/26 02:58 AM
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The fun part about point 1 is that the men who listened are the ones that aren't creeps and rapists. Creeps and rapists genuinely don't care how women feel, so they didn't listen. This managed to actually make the situation worse for women, because they are now more likely to be approached by a man with malicious intentions than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:01 PM
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Then why is rape illegal when men have held political power throughout most of recorded human history?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 02:56 PM
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Short answer: no. Long answer: no and likely never will. I've been in one 'relationship' that was a long time on-again-off-again in my late teens to early 20s that was long distance affair that I regret to this day for destroying my development as I let it dominate my formative years because I genuinely thought I'd marry her. We met at a convention in person and those were the only three days a year we could be close. She cheated on me multiple times, pressured and shamed me into what was effect…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 05:06 AM
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Because women put a pressure to make it so. Why would men give a shit if they were all rapists and rape apologists/sympathizes? Was it illegal when women had no political power? Yes lol. There were ancient cultures with rape laws. I don't know about you, but my parents faced time when a raped woman could only move away to avoid shame that followed her, nothing about man. You think a man wouldn't get shamed for getting raped back then? Lol. Also, this has nothing to do with it being illegal or no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 09:39 AM
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These opinions are always amusing because this view of reality has a massive plothole in it: if all (or the majority of) men are rapists or rape apologists/sympathizers, yet men hold all political/social/judicial power, why is it that rape is even illegal in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 10:20 PM
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ITT: 4th wave feminist rages at the dating culture established by 2nd wave feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:33 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:29 AM
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It's more like a way to save on time, tbh. For any guy who isn't insanely attractive, the carpet bomb approach is so that he's spending a few minutes per day rather than an hour carefully going through each profile that pops up. Either way, he's likely to not get very many matches.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 04:55 AM
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If you agree that a father has an obligation to save his own child from dying No, it's more that I'd say people have a moral obligation to ensure that any child in immediate danger is placed in some kind of care. Say you find an infant in a dumpster, you have a kind of moral obligation to grab it and call 911 at the very least. you agree a child possesses some right to parental care from its father, No, the scenario you're presenting is entirely ridiculous in its premise, and I think you know th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/25 04:57 AM
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The traditionalist 'patriarchal' view is that both genders, and all classes, for that matter, have their roles, duties, and obligations within society in exchange for rights, benefits, privileges, and rewards. Men had more rights, because they had more responsibilities. The argument for men to have the right to have a say in the operations of their government, stretching all the way back to the Ancient Greeks, was that men had the obligation to serve as soldiers and potentially die in wars. Wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 09:56 PM
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Is your vagueness a debate tactic? Did the woman give birth in a hospital or not? I have to assume, that if the father was there for the birth, he wanted to be involved in some way, no? Legally, he would be the rightful guardian with the mother dead unless he already waived his parental rights. You're also speaking to two different moral obligations. One is a moral obligation to save a dying infant, the other is whether or not he has an obligation to take care of a child for 18 years that he may…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 08:57 PM
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Why not just give the baby to an orphanage?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:46 PM
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Obvious smoke? More like, Obvious bait.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:32 PM
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Men are less desirable as a biological fact. Men are less valuable by nature. One man can impregnate multiple men a day. One woman is pregnant for 9 to 10 months and then can't be impregnated for another month after. Every human has twice as many female ancestors as male. Polygyny is kinda in our nature. Genetically desirable men will likely have multiple women going forward as long as monogamy continues to be devalued. Not saying I want things to go back to how they were. I'm just being honest.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:31 PM
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The definition of "single" that Pew Research uses is unmarried or not living with a partner, where either you or your partner must be the head of the household. No, they define it as unmarried, not living with a partner, and not in a committed romantic relationship. I don't know where you got that other definition. Even in the study most people quote, the definition I gave is the one they use. They also do not specify that one partner must be the head of the household. This means your first 3 po…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 06:01 PM
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Does it matter if right now a lot of men have neither? The fact is, regardless of how you define friends, the numbers show that male friendships have sharply decreased compared to 30 years ago. The question wasn't 'how many friends do you have,' the question was 'how many close friends do you have?' I think the problem is that the definition of 'close friend' has changed. so it makes no sense to solely blame the lack of female interest for your loneliness. The point is, a romantic relationship b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 12:17 AM
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have a large circle of old friends who are willing to do things with them. The slight of hand in these conversations make them so boring. What do we mean when we say 'close'? Do we mean friends we hang out with a lot, or friends that we are close enough with to cry in front of? Every time I hear these arguments, I hear that men don't have the deep inner circles that women have where they tell their girls everything, and then blame is thrown on young men for being socially maladapted misogynists.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 06:52 PM
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It's refreshing to see this level of honesty from a woman. Boys are often taught that if they're enough, that if they do well and provide, they'll find love, so it's shocking when they find out that that just isn't the case anymore. They need to be taught that women hate them unless they have good genes or are able to provide enough. It's not a mystery that now that women have more freedom that 2/3 men under 30 are single while the same cohort of women is half that at 1/3. It's not some grand co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:31 PM
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The is that it's no longer distributed as evenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 02:14 PM
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Are we truly looking at boomer men and saying that they had deep, emotional bonds with the men around them? Do we truly believe that romantic relationships are worth the same as friendships? Are we going to pretend that all forms of loneliness are the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 01:28 PM
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China is going to invade Taiwan? Bud, I've been hearing that since high school. It's always been around the corner. China doesn't even have enough troop carriers to move the soldiers necessary to hold Taiwan, let alone invade it. You're talking about an amphibious landing operation that would make Normandy look like a quaint beach trip against a mountainous island that's had nearly a century to prepare for invasion with access to modern US Military equipment. China hasn't even fought a war since…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 03:45 AM
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