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Aristotle reminds us that virtue is a golden mean. We must find that golden mean as men and women. It’s like how us ladies are supposed to be beautiful but not caked in makeup, agreeable but not a doormat, a leader of the household but not domineering etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 09:42 AM
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What is best for us as women is not important in TRP.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/26 01:46 PM
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It’s not bashing men to admit that their happiness is more important than ours, it’s just the truth. We as women have one job, and it’s to serve men and make their lives better. Our goals are secondary or tertiary because men’s goals are more important. We, as women, have no identity outside of the men and children we serve. We are vessels.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/26 01:38 PM
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So’s everything. ❤️ https://preview.redd.it/ilpqp26aut7h1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33fbd41481f51225ba1b62e400d2e50bbb92d936
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:18 AM
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Fair enough. I wish you all the best and I hope things get better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:02 AM
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And I feel similarly about male existence. I hate having to primp and preen myself like a prized hog. I despise having to be gracious and sweet and kind. I would much rather be a man whose body doesn’t constantly change. I would adore being able to specialize my labor because reproduction doesn’t sideline me for 18 years. Grass is greener on the other side, I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:02 AM
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But also the data servers hosting dating apps should be blown up because we’re gamifying human development to the detriment of literally everybody. Profiting off of keeping people single and unhappy is so fucked. (SATIRE!!!)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 11:00 AM
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It’s a game theory issue at the end of the day. Women have to be selective because men aren’t. We could all learn to meet in the middle if we dated by leading with our values.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:58 AM
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I’ve read it a few times. I got the hyperlexic autism. I still believe your thesis is skewed because you do not take the time to consider the lived experiences of the other half of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:56 AM
9

So if someone shoots me, I should be grateful for a bandaid? :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:55 AM
2

We’re all cautiously optimistic and waiting to see how it works out, including him. He attracts crazy. This includes my mother tbf.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:54 AM
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Men can be wonderful. But many men are blinded by lust and media, just as women are blinded by media and materialism. Most men do not like most women and most women do not like most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:53 AM
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My dad is my hero. He is a back-to-back divorce champion who raised two daughters as a single dad while also working 60+ hours a week as a self-employed heavy duty mechanic. They don’t make guys like him anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:52 AM
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Our happiness or fulfillment is simply not important.
/r/RedPillWomen17/06/26 10:48 AM
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Distraction from loneliness assumes that women truly are lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:48 AM
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Fleeting flings do not fill the void for lasting connection and community. That’s like saying McDonald’s is nutritious. Cute idea though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:47 AM
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But also he has a date soon! A very pretty widow recently rizzed him up at the casino lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:45 AM
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Yeah. He’s my bestie. I moved him in with me as he prepares to retire. I’m gonna go have coffee with him rn actually ❤️ he has taught me so much and it’s an honor to respect my elders.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:45 AM
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The key word is “like”. Men do not like most women. They can extract utility through sex from most women, but most men do not like most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:44 AM
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Sex and connection are not always married together. You can find lots of men who will pump and dump you online, but very few men who will see you as a person and connect with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:41 AM
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Yes. Both come from a real or perceived inability to connect. You can also get no hoes and not feel lonely. My dad has been single for like 10 years but since he has community he’s not lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:40 AM
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Being wanted solely for what’s between your legs can be really blackpilling and dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:39 AM
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Loneliness is more than sexlessness. It’s about missing out on a village and feeling off-beat from the whirring rhythm of human cohesion. You can feel lonely in a room full of people if you feel connection isn’t possible for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 10:38 AM
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I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m writing. I wish you the best. God bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:47 PM
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If you have access to power, you get to impose your minority opinion upon the majority. Who is in power right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:45 PM
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The weird thing about being of a minority opinion is that it actually doesn’t matter if you have access to power.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 06:31 PM
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Are you trying to tell me that all the men on online forums calling women inferior foids who cannot be trusted in society are all fake? Do all of the religious fundamentalists lie about their true beliefs online? I would love for this to be true. But alas, there are hateful men out in the world. Douglas Wilson said it best when he said that “women are the kinds of people that people come out of.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 05:59 PM
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No. The hunger and the suffering is the point of life. Trying to negate suffering and death makes us suffer in more complex ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 04:53 PM
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You’re just continuing to sell to me why domestication of humans is a disaster lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 03:44 PM
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Correct. Humans are not the rational animal as we claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 11:30 AM
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We just invent new and more complex ways to suffer. Suffering is inevitable. It’s why we have religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 06:20 PM
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I’d prefer to live and die wild than be stifled by civilization. We traded our freedom for security.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 01:23 PM
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So you’re confirming my thesis that the agricultural revolution and civilization were huge mistakes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 10:09 AM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/26 09:34 AM
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My worry is that our nuanceless world that fetishizes youth and increasingly promotes short-termism simply will not understand that. If beauty is the end-all, be-all, then long term relationships simply would not exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:55 PM
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You are correct that humans are not the rational animal. We are wild animals and should be handled as such. I’m just sick of men weaponizing the idea that they’re somehow more rational or logical than women. It’s just not true!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 06:44 PM
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Eh. It’s because old men have a concentrated amount of power, and power is what makes a man attractive socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:55 PM
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They find each other beautiful on the inside, is why. Most forums will tell you that women are “objectively ugly” past the age of 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:55 PM
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Humans may be intrinsically drawn to beauty, but what is considered beautiful is a moving target and culturally bound.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:53 PM
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Illusion is the key word here. Most beauty is illusory.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:52 PM
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Looks are temporary, shared values last. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 03:49 PM
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Right, the presence or absence of beauty tells us nothing about genetic fitness. You’re starting to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:03 PM
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You’re allowed to be outraged but facts don’t care about your feelings. I recommend you read this lovely book. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:02 PM
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We have technology that overcomes genetic beauty. You can be busted and groom nicely to make yourself attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 01:01 PM
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We are the kindling and men are the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:22 AM
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Many men totally fuck themselves when they select partners primarily for beauty. Mostly because beauty isn’t a reliable indicator of genetic fitness or compatibility. Therefore selecting primarily for beauty is not a rational decision making process for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:20 AM
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It’s because modern men haven’t been taught to cultivate aesthetics outside of women’s beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/26 10:18 AM
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Right. I think menstruation and pregnancy has taught women a certain grit that most men just don’t have.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/26 01:40 PM
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Ok, fair enough. God bless you and enjoy the sunshine today.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:25 AM
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You do not want to date someone you view as a worse person than you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 12:32 AM
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So women should castrate and control men more often? Bet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:17 PM
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Women cannot be promiscuous if men control their own sexuality. In seeking low quality short term relationships, men destroy their own chances at long term happiness. It’s the marshmallow experiment all over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:57 PM
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It sounds like you value virtuous women who are level headed and understanding. These are morals that you seek from a woman. You are seeking an equal or better.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:56 PM
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In what respects do you want to look up to your wife? What is the appeal of someone who is “beneath” you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 04:00 PM
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Right. Which is why men are lonely. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:59 PM
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It is hard to find any humans who respect their fellow man tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:59 PM
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Do you prefer your better half be worse than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:59 PM
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Me either. I’m just saying men like to fuck sluts. That’s not a shaming thing as much as a factual statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:59 PM
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Yes. Most men and most women are not having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:03 PM
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Men still prefer virgins, and sexual morality is morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:03 PM
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For long term, or for short term? Men prefer sluts for short term romps and virtuous women to make wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:02 PM
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I am seeing another man earlier in the comments saying that sexual modesty (but availability to you) and agreeableness are the only things men care about, but here you’re saying you’d prefer a woman who is not agreeable. Perhaps men are not monolithic and have a variety of mate choice preferences. Hmm
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:01 PM
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So you are not seeking someone you look up to in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:00 PM
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Gender is a trap and I’m gnawing off my left leg to get out of it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 03:00 PM
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Return to the monastic!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:34 AM
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Which is why women should stop having sex wholesale.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:21 AM
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Crazy innit
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:20 AM
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The point is that men look for partners who are morally superior. We agree on this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:52 AM
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And if a man has sex with a woman, he should marry her immediately if that’s not already the case. A small subset of men sticking their dick in everything that moves has ruined most women for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:41 AM
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Is there a similar societal expectation for male confidence? Maybe larger gender roles bleed into personal dating choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:39 AM
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My daddy always told me… wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which one fills up first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:38 AM
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You’re
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:37 AM
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No, I’m saying men and women are both searching for a better half in dating. Nothing crazy or controversial. We all want to be with someone we look up to in a way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:37 AM
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Sexual morality is morality, my dear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:36 AM
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Is there then a difference between noncombativeness and agreeableness? Because I see them as the same and I have one man saying that’s all he cares about in a partner, and another saying that’s not what men want. I’m starting to get the idea that maybe… different men want different things, and trying to mold women into one particular shape isn’t helpful for mate choice selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:35 AM
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Men may not care about morality for flings, but virtue is key in their long term selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:21 AM
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Isn’t agreeableness a virtue?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:20 AM
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What we search for and what we find are often different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:19 AM
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Conversely, men search for women who are more virtuous or moral than them to tether them and remind them to be better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:49 AM
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Crazy idea that humans are full people and not means to an end!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:19 PM
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Yeah, turns out relationships based on domination don’t work out in the long run. Very few people want to be someone else’s possession.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 04:12 PM
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Women have never really had to be attracted to men. Men are not all that beautiful or charming because they don’t need to be. Their job is to labor and provide. Men are attracted to women and women historically tolerated men because we had to in order to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:41 AM
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Kinda like Greek love, but this time it’s not pederasty and it’s ladies
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:36 AM
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We learn what we like with the gay sex and bring it back home for our straight sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:35 AM
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There is a loneliness epidemic. It’s because the internet has atomized us and technology has evolved to the point where human relationships cause more friction than living online 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:30 AM
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My partner and I just reward one another daily with our continued shared presence in our shared life. Idk about y’all but that’s way easier than keeping score or being bitter all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 02:29 AM
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Correct! Technological advancement has made it so humans no longer are worth the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/26 08:22 PM
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There is no way to be a good person in the modern world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:32 PM
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With my fiance, the first date was dinner (I tried to pay because I invited him, but I think he bested me), the second date we went for ice cream, and the third date was dinner at his apartment.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:13 PM
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Similarly, sex and relationships aren’t worth the hoops and labor for women. What do you mean I have to shave my legs and present myself like a prized hog? What do you mean I have to carry an embryo to term as a result of sex? I have to subject my body to torture and reduce the gray matter in my brain… in pursuit of a man? Who I have to serve?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:10 PM
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Yes, or we’re trying to ensure that our feelings are real before getting physically close. Sexual intimacy too early can create a false sense of emotional intimacy and confuse everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:38 PM
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You’re onto something. The apps ate up reality. This is why I’m out here still contra dancing and volunteering in my free time. I’m not letting the internet steal the cool parts of reality!!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:33 AM
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Scaring off the wrong ones is the only way you get to the right one. But I hear you. I didn’t want children until I realized just how safe and loved they would be by my fiancée, their future father. It took sixth months of dating for me to change my mind, completely unprovoked by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 09:32 PM
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The only good piece of dating advice I’ve ever heard and perpetuated is to lead with your values. If your values align, you MIGHT be a good match. But that’s only if there’s attraction and commitment for all involved parties. Attraction and commitment cannot be cultivated. They just happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:32 PM
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This is why I do not expect men to protect me in public! I have my own fists and my own guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 07:20 PM
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Depends on the guy. Plenty like having their nads crushed for fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:38 PM
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Have you ever been pregnant? My sister had morning sickness for the entirety of her three pregnancies and had to get spayed after the last one. Any more children would’ve caused her to have a brain hemorrhage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:38 PM
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My daddy taught me lots of good sayings. -don’t piss down my back and tell me it’s raining -can’t don’t work around here! -wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up first. I agree that strong boys and girls should have all sorts of skills!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:30 PM
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I’d take even reading some books on the female anatomy or experience as a substitute for the squeamish. A lot of women study men’s experiences as written by men, but it often doesn’t go the other way. I recommend Eve by Cat Bohannon as a starting point… female anatomy is wonky and we ladies essentially sacrifice ourselves to have kids with big brains.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 11:00 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:36 PM
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By impregnating a woman you are purposely inducing pain on her. It’s just a way to give men some perspective. Imagine if having children actually destroyed your mind and body? That’s what happens to women. I want to have children but our biological reality as women is literal body horror.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:27 PM
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What the horse considers play, monkeys consider business. I also believe that both boys and girls should take both shop and home ec class. Skills are not gendered and the more skills you have, the more confident you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:21 PM
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I believe that men should all have to endure a birthing pain simulator before asking their wives to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 10:18 PM
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My first husband was trans. I have also dated some slutty, slutty men who have slept with people of all sexes and genders. God bless them all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 09:12 PM
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My dad is an old fart who still kicks it old school so I’ve seen how lovely it is for a man to have community. He drinks coffee with his brother, gets breakfast with a friend, and sees his daughters and grandkids every day. It’s possible if you’re not afraid of the judgement of others and if you can be self-employed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:42 PM
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I would much rather be on my own than with someone and miserable. My daddy taught me that by refusing to settle for women who were lowkey crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 04:01 PM
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Men are more conditioned into individualism and stoicism. Men are deconditioned from forming meaningful alliances with their fellow men. Methinks it’s a move to disempower you all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:09 PM
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Liberal individualism has driven people crazy in many ways. Now that we’re free to negotiate the terms of our own relationships, we’ve learned that many people are actually more comfortable being assigned roles from external societal forces than they are asserting themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:01 PM
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Depends on the woman. I know women who walked out on a very good thing just to find that they made a huge mistake. I blame our economy’s incentives shifting entirely toward short term gain. Nobody wants to hold a job or a relationship for more than a few years and any difficulty is seen as a dealbreaker. I find it all sad and disheartening… my fiance told me if I ever get tired of him, I should simply take a nap. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 02:00 PM
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Choose people who choose you. If someone is mistreating you, man or woman or secret third thing, and you choose to stay, you are signaling to the other person that their behavior is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:58 PM
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Yes sir. There’s no need to be spiny when we can just discuss what works and what doesn’t work in relationships. Being objective and rational is the best way to steward human interactions. :) have a great Sunday.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:03 PM
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Or that you’re autistic and don’t understand how humans work. I’ve heard it all. I just know game theory and basic economics!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:58 AM
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Correct. We all must bear our standards and communicate when they’re not being met. It is a human duty, not a male or female duty, to be assertive in our interpersonal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:41 AM
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Yes. I clearly communicate everything I want and need. Some men would call me a nag or needy, but my partner understands and often solicits it. If I want flowers, I either get them myself or ask for them. If an expectation changes I always make sure my partner is aware before anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 11:10 AM
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Ding ding!!! You get what you tolerate, and if you’re communicating something you need and not getting it, it’s time to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:56 AM
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Women have to maintain the standard of expectations in a relationship. I love my man to death but I have to remind him to clip his own nails… part of what makes our relationship successful is radical honesty and asking for what we need/want. Having sex and children with a man as a woman is significantly risky to our health. Therefore we understandably want our men to have some risk or liability in the “investment” of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 10:55 AM
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My fiance wanted to drop 8k on my engagement ring. I instead pulled up a $500 Walmart ring because… ain’t no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:57 AM
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The grass is greener where you water it!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:55 AM
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Does loyalty involve being sexually available, having and raising your kids and maintaining the home? Because if so, a monthly bouquet of flowers and dinner date in return seems more than reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:55 AM
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Yes, lifelong relationships require lifelong maintenance. I struggled with this idea and thought being alone would be preferable until my prefrontal cortex came in. Then I realized that resourcefulness, maintenance, and repair are a way of life. It’s annoying when I have to tune up my bike, but if I don’t, I won’t have a bike anymore. If I patch my socks they’ll wear longer. If I snuggle my pookie and whisper sweet nothings daily, the relationship will probably be longer lasting and higher quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 09:52 AM
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Most people are not interested in the long term. We have been conditioned into short-termism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:46 AM
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This doesn’t ring true for me. I hate wedding planning. I am doing a white trash wedding at my uncles shop and will be serving hot dogs and hamburgers. I’m personally embarrassed to have to kiss someone in front of everyone because they all know I’m going to go have sex with him later that night!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:45 AM
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I’m not romantic because I’ve seen what happens to women who are romantic suckers: they get used and mistreated. I am rational and logical. I love my partner so very much, but I’m not a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:22 AM
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I’m an insane woman. When it was time for me to find my forever guy, I started making decision matrices. I also use a decision matrix for most important decisions; I blame the fact that I took game theory as my math credit in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 10:18 AM
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Personally, I would. But that’s because I’m a tyrant of a woman who loves to steer conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:02 PM
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What questions are you asking your dates? I have learned that if I want to have the kinds of conversation I seek to have, I have to steer the conversation through Socratic questioning. Dating finally clicked for me personally when I lead with values. If a man or woman cannot elucidate their values to me, we are probably not a good fit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:01 PM
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You’re missing the fact that sacrifice is often not enjoyable. Our fetishization of constant happiness is why most people are miserable. Once you recognize that happiness isn’t the point of life, you become much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:15 PM
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That’s duty. Love is ephemeral. Duty is lasting.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:00 PM
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Us real gigachads and chadettes hear all this nonsense and continue to proceed with our lives. Nobody has to answer for our choices except for us, and if anyone has something dumb to say about it, fuck ‘em.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:30 PM
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Correct. Sex is an exchange of value: men gain value from sex and women lose value. Men extract value from women in order to have societal legitimacy. Men who struggle to find women to extract value from are seen as losers because our free market meritocracy has conditioned us to believe economic success is our doing and economic failure is our responsibility as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:08 PM
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Indeed. I was a rare fringe case; my dad got full custody and my mom didn’t care to fight it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 12:04 PM
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Cheers! God bless you and have a wonderful day.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:33 PM
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I am. I know who I am and I don’t need external validation from the world to feel comfortable in my own skin. I comply and conform where I must in order to save my own skin, but luckily there is one place where I am welcome to be whoever I want… my own head. You may see me tonight with an illegal smile. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 02:31 PM
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Our role is as slave. Your role is as master. I am not worthy of having my own thoughts, opinions, and I should never try to lead. I must give all power to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:38 PM
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It’s because men are inherently better people and women are worthless except if they’re making babies for you. I get it. I will never be as good as you because I have something different twixt my legs. I should know my place and stay in it. I am not a person in my own right and need to wait for a main to fill my vessel and make me whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:36 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:33 PM
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I have no interest in insulting men, just revealing their nature. Women are like land are like stocks… it’s a pump and dump game. And it’s not just men… women don’t like to date single dads either. My dad hasn’t had a successful long term relationship since I was 5 or so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:31 PM
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Women who gender wrong are violently put back in their place. It’s sexual marketplace correction. Us unwomen deserve the violence that comes to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:30 PM
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And both men and women violently enforce “correct” gender expression within their own groups. Men call one another pussies and women call one another mannish to try and negate people who express themselves differently. It’s sad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:14 PM
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Brandon Teena would beg to differ, but he was murdered by men when they discovered he was trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:07 PM
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My natural hormones were too fucky for me to ever do HRT. My organs are in good shape as far as I know except for my gallbladder, which the hospital didn’t want to give me in a jar. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:06 PM
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And he forgets that for every single mom, there’s a man who is technically a single dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:59 AM
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Yeah, men see women similarly to how the see land… women who have already had kids with another man are like brownfield sites to them. Men want women like greenfield sites so that they can pollute them themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:58 AM
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Yes. My life is indeed politically incorrect and both the left and the right are offended by my existence. I decided that social approval is more important to me than being authentic to myself in an outward aesthetic sense. I know who I am on the inside and my affirmation is the only one I seek. I know I’ll never fully fit in as a woman but it’s better than the alternative for me right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:30 AM
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You are allowed to have your opinion but ultimately I control me and I control you. God bless you my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:24 AM
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I love trans people and I am glad when people can do what they want with their lives. I am formerly trans but quit because it’s politically inexpedient. I consider myself a radical moderate at this stage in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:23 AM
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My worst fear is a dead bedroom. It’s why I’m the one who initiates and directs things in my boudoir.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:22 AM
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If you don’t want a bloody experience a quarter of your month is biologically unavailable to you. :( this is why gay men are happier I reckon
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:16 AM
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I’m glad you say this; there’s a reason why I’m brutally honest and direct with my partner. I never want him trying to guess my thoughts or motivations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:15 AM
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Chemical castration is essentially the same thing as transgender hormone therapy jsyk
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 11:14 AM
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A lot of women are lowkey autogynephiles. The hottest thing to us is being the object of another’s desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 01:35 AM
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This guy gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:43 PM
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Do you mean precedence? I think it’s because men want their relationships to be based on love too. Men in my experience are more romantic than me. I am practical and logical and the men I have dated have found me a bit cold and calculating in comparison. I love my fiance more than anything, but I know that my rational faculties are what keep me tethered to him more than anything. Some men and women chase love instead. Like my dad left his wife of 16 years to be with my mom because he thought lov…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 10:43 AM
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It’s because we’ve pivoted away from our relationships and marriages being primarily about contractual duty and economic benefit toward love. Love is a feeling and feelings are fickle and fleeting. Love is great to have but it’s never enough for the long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 03:29 AM
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There were other things. He didn’t like my hometown, and I am monomanic about making it a better place. We don’t have much to talk about. The entire purpose of a first date is to see if you’re compatible enough for a second date. It’s not like I married the guy and then decided we were incompatible. I cut him loose so we could both find happiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:11 AM
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Sometimes we’re just not compatible with someone. Once I went on a date with a guy who complained about having to walk outdoors and ordered his steak well done. It just wasn’t going to work. Unfortunately he was in disbelief and offered to change himself for me, which is the very last thing I want. I had to block him for his own good.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:16 AM
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I’m not supposed to have sex and reproduce with ALL men. I’m supposed to choose ONE. I have chosen my man and he has chosen me. Therefore my strategy of discernment has been effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 02:14 AM
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I am similarly unempathetic to many men. Most people’s problems are self induced and they are addicted to their own suffering and victimhood because that’s an easier way to garner attention than by being cool or doing cool shit. I will tell people point blank when I think they’re being ridiculous or not seeing the full situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 07:33 PM
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I’ve been banned from women’s spaces for wrongthink! Both progressive and conservative spaces.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:40 AM
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I struggle in the opposite direction. I have very little sympathy or empathy for my fellow women. It makes making friends lowkirkuinely pretty difficult because I refuse to co-sign poor choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:40 AM
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I like my fiancés shoulders and his chest hair and his belly :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:10 AM
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I don’t want anyone to ever dampen what they have to say to me for fear of offending. I’d rather hear a hard truth over a compassionate lie. I grew up with my dad constantly telling me I was fat, so I can handle the truth. That being said I do think self-censorship in polite company is pretty universal. Like of course I want to talk to everyone about bonobo mating habits, but I just can’t talk to the guy bagging my groceries about gay monkey sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 09:29 PM
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I enjoy that children are mirrors of us that challenge us to our very cores. Being good with kids usually means you’re reflective, curious, and even-tempered.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:43 PM
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Luckily I have very few opportunities to see men who aren’t in my family or wider community, and I live in a small town where bad gas travels fast. But if Fabio walked right into my work to sweep me into his arms, I’d call my man first and the cops second. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:48 PM
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A man can be high value in society and be low value to me. The converse is also true. A man who is high value to me is a man who shares my values of family, humility, reflection, and tenacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 07:46 PM
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Any self report data is subject to bias. We all want to look good in the eyes of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:31 PM
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Advertising and marketing have created such a consumerist mind virus in most folks. It’s very sad, really. Ads aren’t real!!! It’s just really shitty rhetoric! You are fine the way you are and no amount of of purchasing can change who you fundamentally are!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:10 PM
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You may see that the vast majority of women are kinda nasty about guys being bald and chubby but I’m a big fan. My man is a big ol teddy bear and I love him!!! I’ve also encouraged him to shave his head :) I am of the mind that how a person looks is actually the least important thing about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:08 PM
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Don’t I know it!!! All my girlfriends are so nervous about getting wrinkles or greys and I’m over here ready to be a wise old lady!!! Unfortunately most of our economy is built on telling us there’s something wrong with us and that we must consoom to fix ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 02:04 PM
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Hot take? We need to be more graceful and considerate about aging. We all age. Why not celebrate our changing bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 01:20 PM
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It seems you want to find someone and settle down and stay that way though. Which I understand and commend. I hope you find a partner who’s right for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/25 12:04 AM
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It’s tough. But it sounds like you have someone? Are you on the path to marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/25 03:49 AM
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I don’t get constant decoration and redecoration. I want to decorate once with things that have been either 1. Passed down in the family 2. Made by me or a friend or 3. Thrifted. Consumer culture has ruined us as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:23 PM
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The only way to guarantee someone never leaves you is to never engage in a relationship. Intimacy is dangerous and humans are fickle creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 05:21 PM
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How so? Women do it all the time, I think more men should be able to want to stay at home with the kids. This is a place where gender roles breaking down can actually benefit men. Staying home with the kids is a joy. Men should be able to do that too!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:58 PM
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Women decorate so that you have a nice area to come home to. Yes, you’d be okay with living in a cardboard box but it’s not the same as having a living well-decorated home. Men build houses, woman create homes. Women are trained in aesthetics from an early age… we must decorate ourselves to attract men and avoid scrutiny, and we must decorate our spaces to be seen as good homemakers. Otherwise we look like ungrateful wenches who aren’t resourceful enough to improve what we’ve been given.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 04:51 PM
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You have a lever you can pull? Like people in the system who will give her a better shake? I appreciate your insight; I was raised by a very brutally honest single father. He wouldn’t tell me a dress makes me look fat; he’d tell me my fat makes me look fat. I feel very secure in my knowledge of men’s innermost thoughts and feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 03:24 PM
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I climb mountains in prairie skirts because being a woman can be multiple things. Relationships are between the two individuals in the relationship and we give one another everything we can. I’m traditional in that I believe in extended family and multigenerational living. What is the problem that she can’t solve? Do you want to spend your life with someone lacking critical thinking and problem solving skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:34 PM
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I climb mountains in prairie skirts because being a woman can be multiple things. What is the problem that she can’t solve? Do you want to spend your life with someone lacking critical thinking and problem solving skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:30 PM
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Daily hugs, multiple I love yous a day, being his biggest supporter in all things. That being said I am a bit of a butch still and enjoy shit like fishing and four wheeling. Sometimes people don’t want solutions, or they want to feel like they can come up with solutions on their own. I took an intro to counseling class and have learned to ask series of questions that get my partner to the solution on his own rather than telling him what to do. Relationships also have ebb and flow. Some days were…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 02:15 PM
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I will say… I wanted nothing to do with being a wife and mother until I met my fiance. Now I’m scheming to stay at home with kids. But why? Because I feel perfectly safe and secure in his love and I finally have the confidence to know that I deserve love and don’t need to self-sabotage. Many women are adept self-saboteurs and leave excellent arrangements because they don’t think they deserve to be loved. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/25 01:52 PM
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Per investopedia the median monetary value of a SAHMs labor is around 170,000 yearly since they put in 14+ hour days. For the sake of sparing me in mental math calculations, let’s lowball to 150k. Multiply that by 18 years and you end up with a grand total of… $2.7 million dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 11:48 AM
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It’s not that people are annoyed… it’s just uncomfortable to discuss. People don’t like to hear uncomfortable truths on the whole. It’s much easier to ignore the ugly parts of humanity and go about your day. I am a country girl absolutely, but I did teach in the inner city for a few years. I miss living in the hood sometimes :(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 09:01 PM
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Fair enough. My dad’s motto was “can’t don’t work around here” and he tried to be much harsher to me than the real world would be in order to toughen me up. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 08:55 PM
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How are you hardening them up, if I may ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:45 PM
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“The observed gender differences in conformity have social explanations—namely that women are socialized to be more caring about the desires of others—but there are also evolutionary explanations. Men may be more likely to resist conformity to demonstrate to women that they are good mates. Griskevicius, Goldstein, Mortensen, Cialdini, and Kenrick (2006) found that men, but not women, who had been primed with thoughts about romantic and sexual attraction were less likely to conform to the opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 07:29 PM
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Faggot is a bundle. Fasces are bundles. Fascism is faggotry from a linguistic standpoint. Take note that you don’t have to be gay to be a faggot, just like you don’t have to be black to be an n word.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:56 PM
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As a child I was chided into passivity because expressing needs was seen as burdensome. Once I grew up I realized that it’s bullshit. More women should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:56 PM
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I don’t know women, really. I was raised by my dad on primarily male spaces. My female friends are all chaste monogamists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:55 PM
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I agree that it’s fucked up that women are seen as benevolent in their relationships presence of children and men are seen as predators. I hate that being a loving male is maligned. It’s why I do my best to give room to my dad and fiance to be as sweet and vulnerable as they wish in my presence. I would never deign to laugh at them for sharing their feelings or for hugging and kissing the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:54 PM
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People don’t like thinking about supply chains. They don’t like knowing that their milk is pasteurized to clear it of bacteria and that cows are nasty creatures. They don’t like knowing that their iPhones are byproducts of children mining rare minerals in the Congo. People don’t like to examine underlying processes. I do often get fun looks for mentioning that the only way to raise fertility rates is to raise child and maternal mortality rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:52 PM
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Mhm. I asked my partner out, paid for the first date, proposed to him first. Men and women try to deride that as inverted, but I reckon I can’t get what I want unless I ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:50 PM
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Yes. Very few people, male or female, are assertive in their relationships. Men tend to be aggressive and women tend to be passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 06:50 PM
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Yes! Everyone is handed talking points and most people uncritically run with them. People who question the status quo are often punished… thinking of my homeboys Socrates and Galileo here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:12 PM
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Maybe. I don’t know because I don’t engage in it. I prefer to be straight up and assertive rather than passive or aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:10 PM
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Men never bully one another into compliance. It’s not like many sweet sensitive boys are hardened into angry men by their male peers.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:09 PM
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Not whataboutism, just waxing poetic on the human condition. Humans are deeply fallible critters regardless of gender. Neither gender has a moral/ethical high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 05:08 PM
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I love to make people uncomfortable. You can just talk stuff that’s true, like the fact that child laborers in the global south make all our clothes or that fascist and faggot have the same etymological roots and peoples faces go aghast. Especially if you’re a woman who dresses like Laura Ingalls Wilder.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:35 PM
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I wonder if the making everyone uncomfortable is an example of men all complying to one way of socializing. I also wonder if most wars have escalated as part of groupthink and if the mass conglomeration of the manosphere is an example of men all complying to one way of thinking. Granted, with women, if you historically did not comply you were ostracized from community or burned. Epigenetically I reckon this makes for some compliant women. It stands to reason since female humans are the only mamm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:33 PM
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And of course men are all strong individuals and NEVER follow the crowd. Groupthink only applies to women… 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/25 04:23 PM
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Paternalism, plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:25 AM
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Right. You can shoot a dog if it gets distemper. Dogs also can’t talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:24 AM
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Turns out opinions and choices are very easy to manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 04:23 AM
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Yes, you get it. I’d rather spend my time praising admirable behavior rather than spending my time focused on what everyone does wrong. More people need to come online and say what they admire about the men in their lives. Women too, but more so for men. Men are people with feelings just like us ladies and deserve kindness and praise when they do right.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 02:02 AM
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The man never left a mark but being a small child and having a giant man chase you down and slap you isn’t great! he wasn’t perfect but he was good and certainly showed generational improvement. We all need to give more grace to our folks, especially if we know how they were raised. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/25 01:59 AM
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I love to call out my fellow women for being mean. I have made girls and women cry for calling them out! This is also why I am not very popular with women. But I’d rather stand in my truth than be popular. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:32 PM
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Better question: how good is my dad? My dad fought hard for us, my mom knew she was in the wrong by cheating and unfit to raise us on her own. But also my mom was put in her dad’s custody when her parents split. I have a huge lack of maternal ancestry. Good news is, men are great at raising kids. I grew up fucking around welding shops and riding snowmobiles. Being raised by men made me into a man of a woman and I am so blessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:29 PM
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Yes!!!! My evil ass would be like lady Stalin if it weren’t for laws. Terrible news though, most laws are just words and aren’t enforced. So watch out! I may rise to totalitarian power within your lifetime. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:28 PM
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And if we bring back asylums, we must accept that anyone could call to get us sent there. Many asylums held political prisoners and women who sassed back. If we allow people to exist in society without raising children, we are rewarding people existing out of wedlock. Either everyone gets married or most people won’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:28 PM
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Children who don’t get what they want often get what they need. Just because our parents hit us doesn’t mean they’re bad people. Children are tyrants and on occasion must be whooped.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 06:26 PM
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Which is why those of us committed to being better people feel immense guilt all the time. We’re feeling the shame everyone else refuses to feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:29 PM
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Great news is, I’m not responsible for how others interpret things. That’s on them!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:28 PM
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So grateful my dad filed for divorce and won sole custody of my sister and I. I know good men exist because I was raised by the best man.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:27 PM
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Ooooh lemme play!! We should exile people who don’t want to get married and have kids. That will ensure that people get married and have kids for fear of exclusion from society. We should also bring back asylums for the mentally ill so their genes don’t proliferate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:27 PM
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Weirdly enough, my sexually liberated mom went off and chased Chad and my dad filed for divorce. My dad was smart and got sole custody of us girls. If men wanted to step up, they would. Single dads are great parents when they choose to be; even though my dad beat the shit out of us we were raised with morals. We had nuns and monks who were in non procreative unions with Christ and that didnt lead to the fall of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:24 PM
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I have no desire to see civilization exist. Humans are base animals just like the rest of the animal kingdom and society is just a way to give humans zoochosis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:22 PM
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Just like it’s capitalisms fault that I can spend all my mortgage money on fanduel!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 03:21 PM
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Everyone wants change, nobody wants to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:01 PM
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Perhaps we are ALL far too harsh to one another. Perhaps we are all bullied for things beyond our control.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 02:01 PM
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Noooo you don’t understand. Men don’t understand the consequences of their actions and anything they do is because of women!!! Men should never be held accountable, it’s always a woman’s fault!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 01:59 PM
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It’s not personal. Abigail Adams, the original misandrist I suppose, wrote in a letter to her husband to remember to check the power of men for the sake of women. “I long to hear that you have declared an independency -- and by the way in the new Code of Laws which I suppose it will be necessary for you to make I desire you would Remember the Ladies, and be more generous and favourable to them than your ancestors. Do not put such unlimited power into the hands of the Husbands. Remember all Men w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 12:21 AM
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Some would argue. I find myself interesting but I reckon most don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/25 02:35 PM
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It’s best to lay it all out on the table to feel it in a structured way rather than to let it fester. Swallowed emotions usually come out in another way at another time. There’s a healthy level of compartmentalization involved for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:50 AM
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Interesting! I do agree that the vast majority of humans are boring and have very little of value to add to most conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 02:04 AM
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Virtue is a golden mean. I think the best couples process feelings and are also practical problem solvers. That’s certainly what my partner and I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/25 01:57 AM
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Ah, I of course don’t think that the primary purpose of TRP is to have men put other men down for the sake of looking better. It’s more of an axiological side effect of creating narrow definitions of high value men. I get that red pill discussion mostly consists of guys trying to make sense of the world, usually through shooting the shit online for everyone to view instead of occurring primarily in single sex spaces. It’s kind of like how a lot of “girl talk” has made it online and led to men fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 02:43 AM
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I don’t consume TYT media, and your assumption as a way to fill in information gaps isn’t as helpful as asking questions. My understanding of TRP comes from reading the texts published by redpillers! However, there is not one cohesive red pill ideology because so much of it is individualistic in nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/25 01:44 AM
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Well, I suppose things will continue to get worse for men until they reach the breaking point and collectivize. Until then, society encourages them to suffer in silence and deal with it rather than to come to the public square are fix issues systemically. It is saddening to me that people are so unwilling to sacrifice their comfort for the collective good. It’s like how the stock market isn’t actually beneficial to most of us, but since most of our retirement funds are in the stock market we all…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:50 PM
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So many men have nothing to lose. The men talking about the loneliness epidemic have nothing to lose. And as a woman, I unfortunately can only do so much to advocate for change for men. Men must fight for themselves and those of us who are genuinely allied to the cause would join in. Just like the Black civil rights movement had to start with Black folks and white people could then throw their weight behind the cause as well. It always seems impossible until it’s done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 07:03 PM
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Absolutely. Game theory states people tend to act in self-interest. However women are more likely to collectivize in their self-interest. Feminist is just as dirty a word as misogynist at this point. It’s about having nothing to lose and everything to gain. You have to be willing to be unpopular and disliked before you make a breakthrough for your own benefit. Speaking up for yourself and your social groups is hard and uncomfortable but that discomfort certainly beats the suffering men endure on…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/25 10:04 AM
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Thank you for sharing your perspective. I had no intention of being obtuse; I was just asserting that men tend to be more individualistic thinkers, inspired by philosophers such as Adam Smith. Collective action, to many men, is seen as coercive social engineering. This is why there have been very few men’s rights movements- men spurn collective action. It’s not right or wrong, it’s just a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 06:38 PM
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Right. Red pill men do not care about social issues. They care about self-interest and self-interest alone. Red pill men are actually interested in making other men look worse in order to make themselves look better.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:56 PM
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Hashtag not all men, but certainly some of them!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:55 PM
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Right. Because anyone who thinks they can do everything on their own is either God or insane. We need one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/25 03:55 PM
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Lonely women write poetry and get a cat. Lonely men play video games and get a dog. However a dangerous subset of lonely men shoot up public places to try and externalize how they feel on the inside.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 08:15 PM
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OF is very clearly a pyramid scheme. Most of the economy is, too, to be fair. It’s really easy to sell people into degrading themselves if you tell them they have a teensy chance of hitting it big. Most people view themselves as temporarily embarrassed billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/25 01:12 AM
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In that case, sure. The decision to have or not have kids is deeply personal and peer pressuring people who don’t want kids to have them doesn’t help.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:54 PM
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Bronfenbrenner’s ecological model would beg to differ. People are social creatures and do best in community. Remember the phrase “it takes a village to raise a child”? I was raised by a single dad and he succeeded because he relied on community (aunts, uncles, grandparents, robust public schools).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:45 PM
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More men need to join dad groups and do things in community. The idea of rugged individualism and carving your own path has totally ruined men’s prospects.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:34 PM
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Yes. Men face the bigotry of low expectations from a very low age. My theory is that we make men dependent on women by handicapping boys’ executive functioning skills from a low age. Either that or women genuinely are better at cognitive/executive functioning, but I’m not sold on that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 06:33 PM
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It’s deeply fucked up that the majority of people in our society must conceal who they truly are to feel accepted. Imagine if we were all our authentic selves; we’d likely find much more suitable human connections that way. But vulnerability is so dangerous in our era of mutually assured emotional destruction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:17 PM
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I am grateful that I can be a woman who honors truth in a loving way so that my fiance can express his emotions and insecurities to me safely. I do agree that the vast majority of women pretend to be emotionally mature until a man is vulnerable. Love cannot thrive when one or more party is afraid to truly be themselves. I’m heartbroken to hear your story because I know you’re far from the only man who has experienced this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:15 PM
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I think many men are wonderful. Same with women. I just think modern society forces the bulk of people to pretend to be people that they really aren’t. I don’t think either gender holds a moral high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:08 PM
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I cannot speak on the choices of others because I am not them. However, when so many men give women inauthentic information in the dating game, it makes it so much easier for women to make poor choices… it’s just that the women don’t know they’re making poor choices based on the falsehoods told to them. Just as you menfolk say with women, I encourage ladies to not listen to what men say, but watch what they do. I also encourage folks to lead with their VALUES above all else in selecting a partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:07 PM
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I would rather have fewer, authentic choices than a bunch of choices that aren’t giving me the proper information to make an informed decision. Community dating allows women to vet men far more effectively. Small towns allow us to know which men make good husbands and which ones are gonna be shits. I made sure to bring men home to my family ASAP to have them help me in the vetting process, as well. However I’m secretly a boomer who just appears to be a young woman. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:56 PM
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Third spaces and social dancing, like how our grandparents courted.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:16 PM
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Dating apps for women is like the bread aisle. Sure, everything there is packaged to tell you it’s good for you, but most of it is overprocessed and bland and lowkey dangerous. The market is not authentic because so many men lie to get into our pants.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 06:15 PM
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I argue it’s for the better. I think 8 billion is too many of us. Not in terms of resources, but in terms of politics and social cohesion. We did most of humanity with about a billion people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 09:19 PM
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Birthrates have plummeted because death rates have plummeted. Check out the demographic transition model! <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:53 PM
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It’s because we base economic success of growing gdp instead of everyone having enough to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:52 PM
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I pray for the economy to crash every night before bed ❤️ the current order of things need to change so we incentivize things that actually benefit the common person. Instead we’re stuck with a fuckton of perverse incentives that only benefit shareholders. The Economy (stocks, futures, bonds, etc) and the economy (household and community level resource management) are completely divorced from one another. What benefits the Economy just fucks over the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 08:52 PM
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Couples, parents, and families also drive consumer spending. Especially once kids are involved. The entire modern world is a series of tricks designed to part fools from their money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:02 PM
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Yes. Truly wise people admit they know very little, and idiots think they’re very smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 08:48 PM
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I feel similarly, likely because quality time is my love language. It’s so hard to find that mutual admiration and belief in one another, but it really is an “if you know, you know” thing. I spent 26 years of my life so confused and cynical until I felt it. Solidarity to those who are still confused and cynical, I see you and I know how much it fuckin sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 10:50 PM
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Same goes for women. If a man isn’t putting in effort, he doesn’t like you. Matched effort is the bare minimum for a relationship. You must be willing to put in 100% to get 100% from your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 08:01 PM
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Is it natural for a woman’s gaze to wander as well, or just men’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 08:10 PM
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Human intimacy is dangerous. A ship at harbor is safe, but that’s not what ships are for.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 01:06 AM
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Go read some Marcus Aurelius bro you’d love it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 12:17 AM
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Ginger, so people on tiktok claim he’s black
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:39 PM
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Incentives can be monetary, material, dopamine, etc. things that bring us superficial or instant gratification. Being over saturated as a culture in money and sex ruins love.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:55 AM
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Yes. Humans are love seeking creatures but they’re also incentive seeking creatures. We’ve mixed up love and incentives to the point of mass emotional retardation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:47 AM
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Yes. Just as a woman who is super committed to you will still love you even when she smells your morning breath or sees your gross hairy toes or whatever. Committed love transcends so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 12:23 AM
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Most people fall in love with personality rather than looks, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 06:22 PM
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Me too! There’s no way to actually know, but I have to trust and have faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:58 AM
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I speak not from personal experience in my previous comment, luckily. Neither one of us settled and we have an awesome life together. We’re in bed together rn watching the sun rise. :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 11:17 AM
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All my local history research and lesson plans are phooey! ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:33 AM
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True I’ve never written anything worthwhile other than recipe cards :/
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 12:20 AM
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So basically I have to live knowing my man settled for me. I’m the betabecky Does this mean I get to be blackpilled now?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 09:14 PM
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If you go through your day and meet one asshole, you had a bad day. If you go through your day and everyone you meet is an asshole, you’re probably the asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 09:29 AM
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Yes, unfortunately the invisible hand of the free market mostly just does jerk-off motions at us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:01 PM
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Interesting! Some of the men I dated in the past were a little skeeved by how thorough my background checks were, but if I don’t know someone personally it’s just due diligence. Interesting that fatherhood qualified a man for dating but motherhood tends to disqualify women. Something something purity/preselection something something
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:33 PM
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Interesting! Thank you again for sharing. My late husband committed suicide, but we didn’t have any kids. It was also an unconsummated marriage for the sole purpose of gaming the financial system. Life’s weird. Anyway, if you were to be a woman and selecting for a husband, what questions would you ask a man, what traits/values/actions would you select for, and how would you know you chose well?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:34 PM
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Those are opposite ends of quite a spectrum. I wonder what you’d say given different conditions of widowhood. Say, a widow of suicide versus a widow of a workplace accident. As for single mothers with living coparents, I reckon you likely have a range of views on the conditions belying that single motherhood. Say, a single mother who coparents in a neutral way w dad with a mutually amicable breakup vs. lady whose baby daddy is a serial playboy cheater who left outta nowhere. Thank you for engagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:18 PM
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Men literally shit on everything women do and boast about how great and dominant men are and then wonder why we start acting like them. Perhaps people follow their leaders!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:53 PM
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Saying no to a bad woman and continuing to be alone is much better than saying yes to her and being mistreated or incompatible. But ymmv
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:52 PM
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Do widows count as single mothers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 08:49 PM
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The data tell us men are incredibly unpicky online. This shows us women that a man’s attention is not very special, and that any woman could easily take our place. In fact, I’ve met men who have told me as much. There are men who see women largely as interchangeable commodities. I hope they’re in the minority of their sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 07:45 PM
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Eh, I’m usually on guys’ reserve string, not a first choice. I see who rejects them before I get to them. lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:52 PM
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Choosier guys aren’t sending out cold leads to 20 girls a day. Us girls talk about who is approaching us and compare notes. For example, my best friend and I were both sexually harassed by the same guy with a giantess fetish in high school. He would’ve continued had we not compared notes and called him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:51 PM
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The guy who is in my inbox telling me I’m beautiful has messages to about 30 other women saying the same thing. I approached my fiance because I knew he wouldn’t approach me otherwise. He may be an attorney but her certainly isn’t assertive. Love him!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 02:49 PM
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I ditched my smartphone for a flip, my school has banned smartphones, and I’ve dedicated more time to thinking and interacting IRL. all I can control is what I do, but I definitely encourage others to explore their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:32 AM
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I really hope that LLMs advance to the point of clogging up the internet with useless information, forcing everyone to go IRL again. I think a lot of things would be better in terms of social interaction. We were not meant to be connected to so many people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 AM
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Well, I guess women will keep getting pickier and men will keep being… deeply unpicky. I don’t see how the current arrangement actually benefits ANYONE, but since not enough men have a vested interest in changing things, we must practice radical acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 09:35 AM
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I’m unfortunately not missing that. Big game theory fan here. So many of our political problems stem from the same type of prisoner’s dilemma because we were all taught the myth of “greed is good” as an underpinning of our economic system. We’re told to be selfish and it ends up hurting everyone, but it takes a critical mass of people to change things and remake a system to benefit more stakeholders. This applies to gender relations, the stock market, Walmart, union strikes, etc. men as a politi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 01:38 AM
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the less choosy men get, the more choosy women must become. When guys approach you because they’re trying to get SOME sort of action all the time, you learn to try and find ways to filter that out. If you’re choosier as a man, your attention means more to us ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:51 PM
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A lot of these guys, just like borderline ladies/femcels, struggle with emotional self regulation and learning how to get along with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:47 PM
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I yearn for an anti trust champion…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 12:42 AM
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Learning how to communicate assertively rather than passively or aggressively (or passive-aggressively!) is a difficult task. But once i learned how to figure out what i wanted and ask for it, i never want back to the old way of hoping the perfect life would be handed to me. We must communicate, ladies!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:22 AM
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Hope things go well for you too! Rejection is so hard, because it’s nearly impossible not to take it personally. But I think learning to accept “no” helps us to find our “yes” ultimately :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 09:25 PM
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Unconventionally attractive woman here. I had to ask out lots of men (and women) in order to get my dating life going. The rejection stung every time. I’ve confessed my love and been rejected quite a few times. Shit suuuucked. That being said, if I gave up and waited for a guy to come to me, I would’ve never ended up with my partner. I’m glad I kept taking the lead because I ended up getting the exact life I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:05 PM
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Yes. A good number of folks are comfortable with a simplistic mythos over the actual pursuit of knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/25 01:42 PM
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A hard truth is always better than a compassionate lie in my opinion, but a good number of people are more than happy to be deluded rather than know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 06:44 PM
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Who are the people in your life whom you love?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:40 AM
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I find a free or low cost first date to be pretty prudent tbh. A first date is only to figure out if you want a second date so it should be low investment and low pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 11:14 PM
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Well done.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:58 PM
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I dunno. My parents made sure I knew that I’m not that much of a catch, so I may have a different perspective. I know that I can’t really expect anything from a man and I certainly cannot change anyone. Luckily I have found a partner who loves me beyond belief, but I still suffer from intrusive obsessive thoughts that I’m ruining his life and stressing him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:57 PM
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Men are actually starting to speak out against the Taliban now that blue jeans are forbidden and they must grow beards. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/09/22/afghanistan-taliban-restrictions-men-beards/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 07:54 PM
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Mhm.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:38 PM
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And before abortions were widespread, the men had control over whether the live birth lived or died. Inadequate offspring were left outside to die of exposure or starvation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 10:16 AM
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Men’s libido does sometimes suffer under the pressure of a relationship. For example if your wife is constantly asking you to get her pregnant, you may be a bit nervous to perform. But men have a much higher sex drive because they don’t bear as much of the reproductive investment bodily. Your nut wants to spread far.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:06 PM
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It creates immense pressure for men. It’s why men drink and are suicidally depressed. The expectation to carry the entire family is asking a LOT of menfolk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 02:03 PM
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I think the book Mating in Captivity does a great job covering all of this. When you don’t know someone and you’re not tied up in maintaining a household with them, there’s less pressure. Commitment creates pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 01:37 PM
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I can control my choices. I can’t control anyone else’s choices, but I can choose to avoid people with whose choices I don’t agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/25 11:03 AM
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