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What does this post accomplish except spread fear and inadequacy, as if we needed any more of that? Yes, women in the 21st century West have lots of sexual options. Is that relevant to the life of a man going his own way? Is the only determining factor relevant to going one's own way the ease with which the average man can get laid?
/r/MGTOW203/07/20 04:10 PM
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Manual labor jobs will destroy your body by 50.
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 02:23 PM
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How do you keep in touch with people without social media?
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 05:19 PM
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https://images.csmonitor.com/csm/2016/04/977963_2_0427-peacock-mating-display_standard.jpg?alias=standard_900x600
/r/MGTOW225/05/20 11:08 PM
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The ability to bond and form lasting connections is a limited resource that is depleted by promiscuity; modern women have seen too many clubs and too many lovers, the notion of supporting and caring for a partner is foreign to them; all they know is the thrill of a new Chad, and as they ride the wave of hypergamous orgasms they become further damaged and neurotic. Men are playing the same game, pump & dump is the new gold standard, male behavior is optimizing to appeal to the current sexual mark…
/r/MGTOW220/05/20 08:54 PM
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I refer you to /u/Digitalscetis: But if this is what the power elite truly believe, they are more stupid than evil. For if their goal is to create a docile slave class that is incapable of challenging the status quo, the absolute worst thing they could do is to destroy the family. Family is the thing that keeps people on the straight and narrow. Give a man a family, and you can oppress him to an inordinate degree at work, humiliate him, and tax him into penury. History shows he will bear it all,…
/r/MGTOW211/05/20 07:59 PM
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I'm the author of the quoted post in the OP. When it comes to practical advice and help for incels, I think everyone already knows that nothing can be expected from the mainstream. No sympathy, consolation, or even common decency will be shown by 'normies'. If you're into Houellebecq, then his concept of the "second system of differentiation" that he wrote about in his first novel are worth pointing out here, because a case could be made that he anticipated the incel phenomenon decades in advanc…
/r/MGTOW206/05/20 07:04 PM
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1) First of all, I would recommend that you stop identifying as an incel. As /u/account4189 once said, incel is a category defined by women after a man pursues and fails to measure up to social or biological expectations. It puts the man's sense of self-worth in the hands of women and makes him dependent on external validation in the sexual and romantic spheres, where the playing field is heavily tilted against men due to the realities of biological reproduction in a dimorphic sexual species. Th…
/r/MGTOW218/03/20 04:30 PM
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I strongly disagree, and I hope that MGTOW-minded men can overcome this mentality which puts all the power in the hands of women. Incel is a category defined by women, MGTOW is a category defined by men. It's a serious mistake on our part to define ourselves in terms of women's preferences and attraction. MGTOW is something that should be defined by men, for men, regardless of a man's reproductive prospects.
/r/MGTOW218/03/20 04:06 PM
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48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene It's a good book for learning how to be a Machiavellian manipulator, but lacking in wisdom for self-development, as /u/DigitalScetis once pointed out: The weakness of the book is that every section relies on others; how to manipulate them, deceive them, use them. What it lacks is a theory of self-mastery; ie, how to empower /yourself/ when there's nobody around to manipulate, deceive or use. For as much as power depends on society, there are many circumstances w…
/r/MGTOW218/03/20 04:03 PM
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It's a matter of degree.
/r/MGTOW213/02/20 06:06 PM
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How can I get over this? You don't. Men are biologically addicted to sex. It's part of the male condition, and the one thing that definitely doesn't reduce sexual desire is having sex. Age helps. Your sex drive will drop once you get into your 30's and 40's. Once you aren't as sexually attracted to women - they become pretty toxic fast because they just don't bring a whole lot else to the table besides reproduction.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 07:08 PM
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Meh, I don't blame women for doing women-stuff any more than I blame rattlesnakes for doing poisonous snake-stuff. The difference is that humans have moral accountability for their actions, and if you're so inclined, free will.
/r/MGTOW212/02/20 07:03 PM
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If you took the set of all men who self-identify as MGTOW, then undoubtedly some of them would qualify as "incel" if they were part of the dating market. The question then becomes: So what? Why are certain people so bothered by "undesirable" men going MGTOW? It's a much better place to be, psychologically speaking, than hanging out in incel forums obsessing about jawlines, inches of height, and so on. For all the mistreatment that incels suffer, they sure treat each other like shit, and I wouldn…
/r/MGTOW210/02/20 06:41 PM
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My impression is that you believe that there is some kind of happiness waiting for you in the world out there, whether that's in the form of partying, socializing, or women, and that you only need to exert yourself to achieve it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that you currently perceive yourself to be "missing out" on all this supposed happiness. German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer had a lot to say about this: Life presents itself as a continual deception, in small matters as well as …
/r/MGTOW209/02/20 01:54 PM
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I expect this won't go over well on this subreddit, but I believe there is some overlap and compatibility between the two camps. As other commenters have pointed out, MGTOW is largely a volcel philosophy, while incel is obviously characterized by its involuntary nature, but it's certainly the case that for those MGTOW who have given up on pursuing women, many would be incel if they were still trying. That isn't a negative value judgement against these men, who may have other qualities as individ…
/r/MGTOW206/02/20 07:33 PM
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MGTOW is the philosophy that, contrary to popular belief of society, men have purpose in life outside of being a workhorse or a provider. I would go further than that. MGTOW asserts, contrary to the biological instincts of both men and women, that men have value outside of their dominance hierarchy station, which includes the social utility of being a provider workhorse. It's a more radical claim than either PUAs or blue-pillers are ready to make.
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 06:34 PM
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Women can get away with this because men are always chasing and "saving" them, but for men this will lead to a feeling of unfulfillment because men are biologically wired to want to achieve greatness. And maybe this is a part of our nature that works against us, an evolutionary baggage we're better off casting aside. By definition, only a minority can achieve greatness, because to be great means to be great relative to someone else. The majority of men are going to lose in the arms race of great…
/r/MGTOW205/02/20 06:18 PM
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This is the age-old Socratic question of how to live the good life. Everyone from the ancient Stoics and Epicureans, to the Christians, to the National Socialists, to the existentialists, has proposed an answer to it. I doubt a simple reddit comment will be able to explore the depth and breadth of the topic, or be able to guide you in a satisfying direction. You need to do a lot of exploration and soul-searching, and no one else can do this for you. It's our individual burden as conscious beings…
/r/MGTOW202/02/20 02:27 PM
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This thread is an example of the modern Internet amplifying negativity. One random throwaway comment on a social media platform gets reposted, shared, commented on, and distributed, until we end up with thousands of people being triggered by something that will likely have no effect on their life whatsoever, far removed from the context in which it was originally made, with a minimal to nonexistent understanding of the issues, often not going beyond reading a headline or looking at a meme. Nearl…
/r/MGTOW229/01/20 07:43 PM
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This is a great post with some solid ideas, but I suspect these will be lost on most users here. You may be throwing pearls before swine. As I see it, and I don't claim that my view is definitive, the Achilles heel of MGTOW is what a man is supposed to do with himself once he gives up on certain relationships with women, like marriage and cohabitation, which are, if we're being honest, the driving force of most men to go out into the world and hustle. The red pill/evopsych understanding of human…
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 07:19 PM
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On the topic of ambition, I'd like to quote an old post by /u/Digitalscetis: Ambition is a relentless desire for esteem or success that is willing to go to any length for personal glory. But what men knew all too well is that the ambitious man will trample over every friendship, break any code, forego any obligation, and stoop to any low in order to achieve that glory. This is why men of good sense have been wary of the ambitious; you cannot trust them, because nothing other than their desire fo…
/r/MGTOW226/01/20 06:53 PM
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Well, I have to hand it to you for the most diplomatic way to insult someone ever.
/r/MGTOW224/01/20 08:50 PM
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Do you expect symmetry? Not at all. I'm actually supporting a form of gender essentialism rooted in biology, as opposed to the modern concept of gender-neutral individualism and egalitarianism. All this pill nomenclature, is really a fumble. It's just a convenient label. We use labels all the time. There's no need to act so dismissive of it.
/r/MGTOW224/01/20 02:25 AM
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Men will seek out the best women to breed with, and women will seek out the best men to breed with. True, except there is an asymmetry here that you're neglecting. The male of the species is hypogamous whereas the female is hypergamous. Men fulfill their biology horizontally and women fulfill theirs vertically (no puns intended). We decided to tweak the system, when we started to congregate in agricultural (farming) configurations... I'm not sure this was so much a decision that was taken as the…
/r/MGTOW224/01/20 01:49 AM
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This is part of the transition from a monogamous to a non-monogamous society. When it isn't retrained by cultural institutions like marriage, human sexuality is polygynous, with high-status men having multiple women, and "single motherhood" i.e. uncertain paternity, being the norm. With the decline of marriage in the last century, if something like the nuclear family is to survive at all, the future is in some form of "co-parenting" agreement where the "baby daddy" and "baby momma" agree to hang…
/r/MGTOW223/01/20 12:23 AM
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Can we use /r/mgtow2 for something other than reacting to outrage porn from the mainstream media?
/r/MGTOW212/01/20 11:07 PM
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It's another socialism discussion on social media, so you can tell it's all very original and fresh content. I'm so excited about the possibilities and new intellectual advancements we will undoubtedly see in this one.
/r/MGTOW211/01/20 03:29 PM
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For biological reasons, men in general have low in-group solidarity. Brotherhoods are possible - men can co-operate toward some external goal, but that requires a particular type of cultural reinforcement which we don't have. When it comes to their common interests as men, particularly their reproductive interests, they see each other as competitive rivals in the dominance hierarchy and not as potential allies. This is part of the reason why the MRM has been such an abject failure. Both men and …
/r/MGTOW210/01/20 02:52 PM
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The red pill is awareness of female nature, male disposability, and gynocentric society which comes from the biological instinct of both sexes to put female welfare ahead of male welfare. I understand why some people dislike it, because the expression has been abused by unscrupulous people looking to quickly build a following on social media, so you have thousands of low-quality channels offering daily "red pills" or "redpilling" you on this or that topic. This content is derivative and doesn't …
/r/MGTOW229/12/19 05:00 PM
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Paid promoter / marketer?
/r/MGTOW227/12/19 04:41 PM
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One of the disappointing things about the manosphere is how susceptible they are to various cargo cults and fads, or for lack of a better term, 'memes', like nofap, keto diets, lifting, cold showers, and so on. Those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head, but I'm sure you could come up with 20 more if you cared to. It seems like once these things become accepted, there's virtually no questioning that they form part of what a 'real man' is supposed to do, and anyone who says otherwi…
/r/MGTOW225/12/19 03:05 AM
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MGTOW is monolithic on the issue of avoiding marriage and cohabitation.
/r/MGTOW224/12/19 12:50 AM
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It's a biological fact and it's true cross-culturally. What percentage of women marry down in height, income or social status? Now what percentage of men do the same?
/r/MGTOW230/11/19 02:55 PM
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If you took the set of all men who self-identify as MGTOW, then undoubtedly some of them would qualify as "incel" if they were part of the dating market. The question then becomes: So what? Why are certain people so bothered by "undesirable" men going MGTOW? It's a much better place to be, psychologically speaking, than hanging out in incel forums obsessing about jawlines, inches of height, and so on. For all the mistreatment that incels suffer, they sure treat each other like shit, and I wouldn…
/r/MGTOW225/11/19 10:13 PM
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I'm going my own fucking way. You're really not, though. You're a couple of days out of a relationship and experiencing the high of having more time and freedom. Your declarations of this being the "last one", etc. need to be taken with a grain of salt. If MGTOW is to mean anything, it has to mean something more than "newly single".
/r/MGTOW222/11/19 03:04 AM
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I see fitness culture as a symptom of intensified sexual competition between men. We live in a liberalized sexual marketplace where men compete against each other for women, and any way to maximize your odds of 'winning' in this game matters. Most male-centric self-improvement along red-pill lines falls into the same category. It's always about the man as an individual against the world, and not about men acting together as a group. 'Lifting' is an individual pursuit. You're not striving towards…
/r/MGTOW229/09/19 01:21 PM
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46% As u/account4189 once said: even 5% is too high. you're talking about a lifetime of support for a person that will most likely either despise or resent you - if not immediately then eventually. and if you aren't the breadwinner - the ripcord is just going to get pulled earlier because of hypergamy. even if the laws were "fair" - hypergamy and Briffault put the man in a weaker bargaining position. a lifetime of capital investment and labor and you don't even get symmetrical love from the wife…
/r/MGTOW215/09/19 12:47 PM
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It has merit, even though it's a bit simplistic. Humans are a dimorphic sexual species that like to create dominance hierarchies. The sexual strategies of both sexes are asymmetrical. Women are generally only attracted to the top 20% of men, along whatever dimension is valuable in a particular context. In a postindustrial abundance society, the criterion happens to be looks, because women can provide for themselves quite easily. In other societies, the criterion would be something else (provisio…
/r/MGTOW206/08/19 05:52 PM
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Thanks, BigArabCock100.
/r/MGTOW219/07/19 05:20 PM
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You can't break away from introversion. It's an inherent personality trait.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 01:13 AM
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That depends on your personality and interests. A random list of hobbies compiled by people who don't know you isn't going to do much for you.
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 02:33 PM
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Why do people tell me I will regret staying single? How can we possibly answer that question? Are we mind-readers? I wish posters here would take the time to write less click-baity titles.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 02:01 PM
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We used to have these posts in the old MGTOW back when the subreddit had 10 times fewer subscribers and text posts could get some attention. As I see it, these posts are made from a flawed premise, that being that talking about women means you're not pursuing any hobbies. This is also a common argument against MGTOW: "you say you're going your own way, but all you do is talk about women!" If we take this as a given, it would seem natural to start talking about hobbies to add some weight on the "…
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 06:59 PM
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You don't have to "respond". You don't have to argue. Just nod and walk away.
/r/MGTOW219/05/19 01:53 PM
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This seems fake.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/18 08:45 PM
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In my experience, the women with traditional upbringing are only held back by culturally enforced shame. All the cultural programming in the world doesn't change their essential nature. If they're ever in a situation where they can act out their nature without being censured, ostracized, or made to suffer meaningfully, then they'll be just as bad as your typical thot. Another example: guys who bring their wives from third world countries to the West and quickly discover that their wives will sta…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/09/18 08:38 PM
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I'm no expert in the area, but I think you're assuming that those probabilities are independent. In reality I think the over 6' guy would be more likely to also make >100k, etc.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/18 11:01 PM
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And judging by your post history, you're clearly an obnoxious blowhard with a stick up your ass. Looks like you enjoy chimping out in every thread with lots of chest-thumping and insults in capital letters. Probably some middle-aged dork who gets off on pretending to be the 'internet tough guy / smart guy'. Yawn.
/r/MGTOW06/09/18 03:25 PM
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You replied to a fairly neutral post with a hostile screed against the OP, and then got even more butthurt when called out on it. You don't really have a point, just an overblown sense of superiority.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 08:59 PM
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That's not an argument.
/r/MGTOW05/09/18 03:37 PM
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Do you think the underlying psychology of the ugly volcel and incel are that different?
/r/MGTOW04/09/18 11:52 PM
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But trying to forcibly change what you unconsciously desire is a fool's errand in my opinion. You really think it's hopeless? Lots of religious traditions have tried (I'm thinking mainly of Buddhism here). Schopenhauer thought that life is driven by blind will into inevitable frustration, strife, and pain, but thought that the sage could escape it.
/r/MGTOW30/08/18 03:13 AM
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Any thoughts on the NoFap movement? Do you think it can help men whose desires can't be fulfilled?
/r/MGTOW28/08/18 02:51 PM
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Messenger Rising's "Ghost Nation," Stardusk's "Pumpkin Spice Latte," or Barbarossa's "Post-Feminism Man" I'd be willing to bet that fewer than 10% of current MGTOW have even heard of Messenger Rising, Stardusk or Barbarossa, let alone watched any of their videos. They might have been influential 5 or 6 years ago, but their following today is insignificant and their best work is behind them. Stardusk doesn't even call himself a MGTOW anymore and Barbarossa is basically inactive. Look at the type …
/r/MGTOW18/08/18 05:22 PM
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Maybe you're reading too much into a Twitter flamewar?
/r/MGTOW10/08/18 11:54 PM
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You might not be interested in the state, but the state is interested in you.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 03:40 PM
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I think the state in all forms is immoral. Immoral but without any sustainable, scalable alternatives.
/r/MGTOW26/07/18 03:34 PM
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I don't follow the news at all. Usually I learn things when someone else brings it up in a conversation. If it doesn't filter into my daily life through family/friends/acquaintances or through an obvious impact on my life then it's probably not worth knowing.
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 02:29 AM
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I'm going to offer some counterpoint to some of the suggestions in this thread. Don't go into the trades unless you really know what you're doing and what you want out of a career. Yes, some of the trades pay well, perhaps better than an entry level job out of college would, but money isn't the only thing that matters. Quality of life also matters, and so does job satisfaction and interest in the work that you do. Something tells me that the people who are suggesting the trades haven't actually …
/r/MGTOW18/07/18 02:11 AM
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A bit simplistic, no?
/r/MGTOW07/07/18 12:18 PM
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The rule of law should be reserved for cases where arbitration can take place on obviously perceived physical crimes. That's a very masculine perspective. Women would prefer to keep the law subjective so they can more easily perform their class curation function between the top 10% and bottom 90% of men.
/r/MGTOW21/05/18 04:23 PM
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I've read a ton of your posts on this forum. Would it be fair to characterize your position as the antidote to Peterson? You seem to share his general worldview on things like Darwinism, but you invert the value signs. Peterson: the individual self should be subservient to Being/the continuation of the species, even if it requires a leap of faith and the ultimate sacrifice. Is MGTOW the antithesis of that? Also, I just finished reading Peterson's 12 rules. Do you think they have any relevance to…
/r/MGTOW09/04/18 08:01 PM
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Historical experience shows that you either have one large bandit or multiple smaller ones.
/r/MGTOW05/04/18 08:08 PM
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Have you gotten less lonely over time? Has anything helped you deal with it as you get older?
/r/MGTOW07/01/18 08:40 PM
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If you're not actively trying to get laid, you're volcel.
/r/MGTOW28/11/17 09:06 PM
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By becoming homeless?
/r/MGTOW21/11/17 12:48 AM
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MGTOW's Rome never existed to begin with or was an illusion all along.
/r/MGTOW16/11/17 01:16 PM
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So which way are you betting?
/r/MGTOW11/10/17 06:32 PM
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If you object to modern Catholicism, why not convert to Orthodoxy?
/r/MGTOW09/10/17 01:33 PM
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You may be attributing too much agency to men as a class. Modernity is just as much a result of environmental/technological changes as it is a result of men making concessions to female nature. Both men and women got swept up in the same current, and the concessions came as a result of that. It just so happens that the current environment favors female nature, whereas in Ancient Greece the environment probably favored male nature. One of Colttaine's best videos (Biology Culture Ideology) talks a…
/r/MGTOW02/10/17 02:58 PM
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If there were a transcendent ANYTHING, it would be beyond your comprehension. You might be able to characterize some of it, but necessarily not all of it. But why take the transcendent to be a god in the theistic sense? In the absence of evidence (and the absence of the possibility of evidence), it could equally be a Demiurge that is hostile or indifferent to humanity, or the material universe itself that is ultimately unknowable to the human mind. And without proof about things - spiritual, mor…
/r/MGTOW24/07/17 03:38 PM
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Ventionmgtow Nice to see him mentioned here once in a while. He deserves a bigger fanbase than he currently has.
/r/MGTOW07/07/17 01:30 PM
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I've always been convinced that the subconscious motivation for women who demand "free birth control" is to allow them to ride the CC for free, without any accountability whatsoever.
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:21 PM
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Here's a translation of the "About Me" section: I'm probably different than most women you've dealt with in the past I'm exactly the same as every other woman you've dealt with in the past, except worse. I'm a total alpha female who knows what she wants and goes after it. I'm a total bitch. I'm not one of those women interested in rushing towards marriage because my biological clock is ticking and I so badly want a child I'm ready to date just about anybody I am one of those women. I am emotiona…
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 07:11 PM
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I fucked exciting bad boys in my teens and 20's, now that I'm approaching the wall, where are all the loyal providers making 100k a year to serve me? :((((
/r/MGTOW05/07/17 01:23 PM
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All that stuff is just a veneer over the ruthlessly Darwinian software that's running in her mind. Women can't love their mates. They sometimes love their children. Because they can't love their mates - I don't want to invest any of myself in them - and I wouldn't want to because I don't like the way their brains seem to work. The term "love" needs to be defined better. The biological basis of love is well understood at this point. Do you think women don't experience this biological mechanism at…
/r/MGTOW04/07/17 10:53 PM
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Holy shit. Learn to read subtext and get off your intellectual high horse. Look at our birth rate, overall rates of marriage and divorce rates by race and you'll see that this is a general issue. Yes, and the issue is much, much worse with blacks than any other race/group. If one race has a 10% illegitimacy rate and the other has a 75% illegitimacy rate (with equal rates of single motherhood), one is justified in saying that the family in the latter case has broken down. It's "coming soon to the…
/r/MGTOW01/07/17 01:44 PM
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The black illegitimacy rate is currently an apocalyptic 75%. The black family effectively doesn't exist anymore, and look at the state of their community. Coming soon to the rest of the Western world.
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 06:10 PM
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MBTI is meaningless.
/r/MGTOW30/06/17 06:09 PM
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Your premise is incorrect. We're not about exposing feminism.
/r/MGTOW28/06/17 06:05 PM
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This isn't /r/mensrights
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 08:29 PM
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Someone posted this a while ago. I've edited it somewhat to fit this post. There's no such thing as NAWALT. There's just AWALT. There is such a thing as conditionally NAWALT. What would happen if you developed a disability? What would happen if you lost your job? What would happen if you became disfigured? What would happen if a man of much higher station started to move in on your girlfriend? What held a lot of relationships together in the past wasn't so much that the bond was strong as much a…
/r/MGTOW27/06/17 07:42 PM
2

I said lower status, as in, by calling other people losers, you're implicitly putting yourself above them in the dominance hierarchy. And go fuck yourself.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 10:19 PM
5

Hope you enjoyed your dopamine rush from shitting on lower status men.
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 06:35 PM
1

It was barbarossa who first said it, and it's "one blowjob away from jumping ship."
/r/MGTOW22/06/17 06:33 PM
11

One isolated incident does not a MGTOW make.
/r/MGTOW21/06/17 01:22 PM
2

Stop trying to debate, fucking retard.
/r/MGTOW20/06/17 01:41 PM
5

Most men date down.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 03:51 PM
1

Troll thread.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 03:41 PM
2

High status men trade up too. It might be more accurate to say that the average woman behaves more like a high status man.
/r/MGTOW19/06/17 03:29 PM
0

Common response: Can a man be volcel when he leaves a market he was never part of to begin with? That's like a beggar boycotting Rolex.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 06:06 PM
177

Up to 20 years in prison: She'll get 10 and be out in 3.
/r/MGTOW16/06/17 05:08 PM
3

Let's see how many idiots here take the bait.
/r/MGTOW14/06/17 03:15 PM
3

Adding a [Serious] tag and not even bothering to write a single word to explain what you mean. Low effort trolling.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 08:23 PM
8

Stop posting this fucking garbage.
/r/MGTOW13/06/17 08:20 PM
8

We're not your personal dating site coaches, faggot.
/r/MGTOW11/06/17 02:59 AM
1

I'm saying frame doesn't matter. This is pretty much a total repudiation of PUA.
/r/MGTOW10/06/17 02:09 PM
2

Colttaine had a classic video on this topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlT-dq9cn7o His idea is that men self-actualize by stepping outside of biological structures and boundaries and women self-actualize by reinforcing their roles within them.
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 04:07 PM
10

What aspect of female nature do you find to be the most traumatic? The hypergamy?
/r/MGTOW06/06/17 02:12 PM
5

Garbage website. Please go back to pol.
/r/MGTOW05/06/17 05:25 PM
11

To all MGTOW: please stop falling for these viral marketing campaigns. The only reason this is a thing is because some marketing executive thought it would generate enough controversy in the internet culture wars to promote their movie and make it go 'viral'. That's one of the most reliable ways that products and brands get attention these days. You don't need to "pick sides", you don't need to be offended, just ignore them.
/r/MGTOW04/06/17 01:34 PM
16

Stop caring about a civilization that no longer cares about you. Let it burn.
/r/MGTOW03/06/17 01:13 PM
1

what their inner psychology values How do you know what this is without being a mind-reader?
/r/MGTOW01/06/17 10:09 PM
5

There's nothing you can do about it. It's part of your burden as a male. The best you can do is to follow the example of monks who isolate themselves from women and from any representation of women. You can take some comfort in the fact that your desires will abate with time.
/r/MGTOW01/06/17 04:54 PM
2

The keto diet (Atkins, Paleo, etc.) hasn't been proven to be any more effective at weight loss than any other calorie-restricted diet.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 08:53 PM
6

You only get to see a woman's real face when she's sucking your dick.
/r/MGTOW31/05/17 08:51 PM
9

-Women are the majority of the electorate in many Western countries. Politicians pander to the largest voting blocks. -Innate gynocentrism/male disposability means that women's issues are politically actionable (both men and women care more about women's welfare) while men's issues (suicide, homelessness, etc.) are irrelevant. Anyone who even mentions men's issues is considered a misogynist.
/r/MGTOW30/05/17 02:51 PM
6

Roosh is a simp riding on the wave of resurgent tradconism. Just ignore him.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 03:35 PM
2

This is not a relationship advice forum.
/r/MGTOW28/05/17 12:51 PM
4

Schopenhauer had a lot of views that could be interpreted as MGTOW for his time.
/r/MGTOW27/05/17 11:08 PM
15

"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." -Matthew 7:6
/r/MGTOW25/05/17 07:11 PM
1

Go concern troll somewhere else.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 06:09 PM
8

Don't care.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 06:06 PM
6

I don't need TFM to "confirm" anything for me.
/r/MGTOW24/05/17 06:05 PM
1

Therapists, governments, and social relief agencies are ultimately composed of people. Alternate theory: People in general care less about men, especially if those men are low in the dominance hierarchy. That inherent bias / lack of care (demonstrated in controlled studies) translates into therapies, government policies and social programs that fail to help men.
/r/MGTOW11/05/17 03:10 AM
11

1) It doesn't matter how many women there are, just like it doesn't matter how many jobs there are. It matters how many you're experienced and qualified enough to apply for. Hypergamy will exclude a subset of men from reproduction regardless of the absolute number of men and women. 2) Incel is a reality of the male condition. We're a dimorphic species with tournament features. Some men will have harems, others will have one or two mates, many will have nothing. 3) The people who call you (or any…
/r/MGTOW08/05/17 12:23 PM
11

Standard beta bux. Move on fellas.
/r/MGTOW06/05/17 08:22 PM
2

If someone calls you a sexist, you fucked up by not keeping your views private.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 06:02 PM
2

I consider the role of guys like Roosh and Roissy to be primarily that of entertainers. They write about what's popular and what their audience demands. When PUA was at its height, they were all about maximizing your slaying potential regardless of the social consequences. When the alt-right and white nationalism became en vogue, they started talking about immigration and race. Now that tradconism is in a revival, they're jumping on that bandwagon too. You can't take them seriously because they …
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 12:18 AM
1

Do you really not get angry on a gut level, or have you learned to hide your emotional state better? There's a difference between the two. I imagine that a lot of MGTOW want to achieve the former when they've just learned the latter.
/r/MGTOW05/05/17 12:10 AM
2

Not my job to make women feminine.
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 07:25 PM
6

Can we stop giving attention to retards?
/r/MGTOW03/05/17 01:26 PM
34

Who cares? Don't link that shithole here.
/r/MGTOW02/05/17 10:32 PM
5

Not true... women will flock to a handful of warlords and most men will be murdered.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 01:35 PM
4

You're misunderstanding what generalization means. It doesn't mean that every woman is a carbon copy of one another and has exactly the same behavior in all circumstances. It does mean that there are general trends or patterns that can be observed in the behavior of women as a group (e.g. hypergamy), that differentiates them from men as a group. There's individual variation when it comes to how much a given trait is manifested, but that doesn't invalidate the generalization. Example: alligators …
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 01:09 PM
1

Depending on your state/country (particularly if they recognize common law marriage), you might be doing a lot more than just "living together" in the eyes of the law. It might be something worth keeping in mind.
/r/MGTOW01/05/17 12:53 PM
3

Good women are constrained by the environment to act in ways that happen to promote civilization and social stability. Bad women are good women without the environmental constraints.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 02:21 PM
5

It's another "I don't know anything about neuroscience but I'll mention dopamine because it's trendy" post.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 02:19 PM
8

Yes, MGTOW is bluepill. Yes, MGTOW is controlled by the Jews and the Illuminati. Now please go preserve the white race elsewhere and leave us alone. We don't care about your insane, paranoid delusions.
/r/MGTOW29/04/17 02:15 PM
22

Women have a different connection to reality than men do. That doesn't mean they have no connection.
/r/MGTOW28/04/17 07:23 PM
1

Archive it, faggot.
/r/MGTOW27/04/17 06:41 PM
1

I don't want to keep women barefoot and pregnant Would this be a bad idea culturally? Is it even possible to impose a culture from the top down in a high tech/abundant resource environment?
/r/MGTOW26/04/17 10:48 PM
13

Men are insanely status conscious too. The entire motivation for "lifting" for 99% of men is to improve their looks and jump ahead in the dominance hierarchy. We're social apes first and foremost.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 08:36 PM
2

This question gets asked every week or so. We desperately need an FAQ section with the best answers.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 03:44 PM
3

Do it, get burned, and come back here in a couple of years. It's clear that you're only looking for confirmation for your decision and will disregard the advice given here. Who knows, it might even work out.
/r/MGTOW24/04/17 03:33 PM
2

You could literally Google this in 2 minutes. Please don't waste everyone's time.
/r/MGTOW22/04/17 01:35 AM
2

Who cares about this dipshit CEO? Let him lose all his money.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 07:27 PM
-1

Utterly delusional and paranoid fantasy.
/r/MGTOW19/04/17 02:25 PM
10

MGTOW aren't losers pretending to go their own way. Some men who identify as MGTOW would be considered losers by society's and women's standards. we can't empathise with someone You don't speak for all of us. The image has been destroyed by incels. Who cares about image? Nothing about MGTOW relies on the opinion of other people. There's no goal inherent to MGTOW itself that requires external validation or approval. Those who are opposed to MGTOW will use shaming language and personal insults no …
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 05:47 PM
7

Feminism isn't the deliberate extermination of men. I'd say most women are indifferent to most men. They don't care if most men live or die as long as they keep society running.
/r/MGTOW17/04/17 05:25 PM
3

The legislation followed changes in the social structure that preceded it, e.g. divorce was already massively on the rise relative to the 1950's baseline when no-fault divorce was implemented. Humans aren't driven by laws, we're driven by biology and environmental conditions. The laws are a bi-product of a more fundamental shift.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 05:55 PM
7

Haven't we grown past this wage gap shit at this point? Seriously, who cares? Leave it to the professional antifeminists and other e-warriors to argue back and forth in their 2-hour videos.
/r/MGTOW13/04/17 05:52 PM
2

Brilliant answer.
/r/MGTOW11/04/17 07:53 PM
2

What's with all the "concerned outsider" posts lately? Is someone trying to fish for information for a smear article?
/r/MGTOW07/04/17 03:27 PM
5

According to Betteridge's law of headlines, the answer is no.
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 01:38 PM
2

Hurts doesn't it? There's nothing you can say to it because it's not making a rational argument about the relationship between abstract concepts. It's attacking the non-rational, emotive centers of your brain that have no rationality and don't care about it at all. This is male biology... we're status-conscious animals at our core, we don't want to be called losers because that was death in the ancestral environment. This biology is part of why the male condition is painful if you're not in the …
/r/MGTOW06/04/17 01:29 PM
1

I do feel like I have allegiances to the culture I grew up in - but the culture I grew up in no longer exists - and I don't feel any desire to fit into the culture I live in now What do you consider to be the differences between the two?
/r/MGTOW31/03/17 10:00 PM
1

Does that mean you have no goals?
/r/MGTOW23/03/17 10:54 PM
1

Plenty of other places to do that.
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 11:08 PM
1

Are we going to cry about 'subliminal sexism' whenever someone uses the silhouette of a woman to represent 'success' on an internet poster that will be forgotten in 2 days? Really now?
/r/MGTOW09/03/17 09:31 AM
1

Self-promotion?
/r/MGTOW01/03/17 05:53 AM
3

I don't care about 'maintaining frame', 'learning Amused Mastery' or going through any other routine invented by PUA buffoons to cater to women. I don't care about what women think or what they want. I keep any interactions with them to an absolute minimum and I would appreciate if they would do the same (especially in the workplace, but everywhere would be nice).
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 12:28 AM
2

The point is that a man still hands over his hard-earned resources to women for reproductive access. The only difference is the degree to which it happens. Dating/marriage are long-term, prostitution is short-term, both are manifestations of the same behavioral dynamic.
/r/MGTOW28/02/17 12:12 AM
6

For me, prostitution is like going to a sleazy casino to waste all your money. I get that some people derive entertainment from it, and I'm not opposed to it in principle, but it's not my thing, and I would rather put my money towards better uses than paying women for sex. On a dollar per hour-of-fun basis, there are hobbies that deliver a far better return on investment than prostitution, and with considerably less personal risk. There's arguably a blue pill dimension to the sex trade too, wher…
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 09:30 PM
9

MUST WATCH MGTOW! Stop with the clickbait titles. This isn't YouTube and you're not Sandman.
/r/MGTOW23/02/17 07:12 PM
1

Any asset, "real" or "unreal" can be taken from you by men with more guns.
/r/MGTOW22/02/17 09:02 PM
2

MGTOW isn't like the NRA. It's not an organization. It doesn't have a leader. It's just a group of men who are trying to survive in their particular circumstances, loosely united in their rejection of marriage. I'm sure you know this already, but I want to reiterate it for anyone who might read these comments. And the attitude I'm seeing on this subreddit is hardly 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend'. It's enthusiastic support that might as well have come out of any thread on The_Donald. If an …
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 07:42 AM
5

Nah, but you're pretty much what I had in mind when I wrote that.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 01:11 AM
3

this cesspool has turned into just another alt-right, ethno-nationalist echo chamber without the tradcons Oh, there are plenty of tradcons here. And you're completely right about this place turning into an outpost of Breitbart. There isn't even any point to identify as MGTOW anymore. In every venue where it used to have a presence, it's been bastardized and taken over by people who are antithetical to what the philosophy was originally about. The quality people left a long time ago.
/r/MGTOW20/02/17 01:02 AM
1

What attracts you to communism despite its practical failures?
/r/MGTOW14/02/17 08:29 AM
5

the two biggest factors seem to be the copious amounts of pornography [...] and the widespread use of socially isolating social networking. He hasn't established the causality here. His argument is that porn + social media --> less sex, but it could easily be some unknown factor --> less sex --> porn + social media. Also, I wonder if this pastor has read his St. Paul: I wish that all were as I myself am. But each has his own gift from God, one of one kind and one of another. To the unmarried and…
/r/MGTOW11/02/17 05:13 AM
3

I think the term 'fag' is appropriate here.
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 10:43 PM
1

You really think masculinity has no cultural component?
/r/MGTOW09/02/17 06:45 PM
1

You're probably wrong about the root cause of your feelings. Chances are, reading what some people have written about the opposite gender on internet forums has little to do with it. There might be something else in your life that is causing you suffering, and that you're mistakenly blaming on 'learning about women'. If I was in your place, I would do some reading on depression or anxiety and see if any of the symptoms match.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 01:15 AM
5

It does no one any favors to use di Caprio as an example of MGTOW. di Caprio is an ultra-high status celebrity, and the vast majority of MGTOW are not. His experience is inapplicable to 99.999% of the male population, and comparing ourselves to him reeks of desperation.
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 01:07 AM
7

PUA is more than just approaching. PUA is a set of techniques that claim to improve your odds over and above what "normal" behavior would achieve. To prove that PUA works, you would need to perform an A/B experiment with one group of men implementing PUA and the other acting as a control. There hasn't been such an experiment, so it's impossible to definitively say whether PUA works or not. However, a lot of anecdotal experience from dating sites suggest that it's not very effective: Plenty Of Fi…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 01:02 AM
1

Welcome to /r/MGTOW, where half of our users are autistic channers. But seriously, this place is underwhelming if you're actually a man going his own way. Too many posts from 4chan, too many anecdotes about 'teh evil wimminz', too many political posts about the latest controversy, and a userbase that seems like a bunch of teenagers going through their first period of red pill rage. How many times are we going to have our two minutes of hate about women doing X? There are a couple of quality post…
/r/MGTOW08/02/17 12:34 AM
3

1) Nobody is going to take your decisions seriously in your teens or early 20's. That's because you're still mentally maturing at that age, and people frequently change life course. All too often, people who swear off kids end up having them, and people who swear off marriage end up getting married. The questions about marriage will gradually stop as you get older (30's, 40's and beyond) 2) You can't save people, they can only save themselves. If you show them a 'red pill' video (or a 'red pill …
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 08:28 PM
0

Post this on some alt-right venue, not here. I don't care about what women are wearing.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 06:33 PM
5

Cultural Marxism is an obscure literary movement from the mid-20th century. It's not a conspiracy to 'destroy the West', and it's had virtually no impact on anything outside of a few university departments. For your own sanity, stop listening to paleoconservatives and alt-righters.
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 06:01 PM
1

I'm early retired living on my mutual fund dividends. How much did you need to invest initially to get to that point?
/r/MGTOW06/02/17 06:01 PM
2

Plenty of redpillers will claim that women's behavior and mental state is indistinguishable from that of children, asshole.
/r/MGTOW04/02/17 06:41 AM
1

You're not a MGTOW just because you got divorced. Start by reading the sidebar material and watch the recommended channels.
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 10:14 AM
1

If the 'ugly loser' insult gets to you, maybe you need to go back to TRP? MGTOW don't need to qualify themselves to others, we don't need to prove we're high value or successful (some of us are, some aren't), especially not on the internet. A man can join this "club" (loosely speaking) irrespective of his status in the dominance hierarchy. Who cares what anonymous strangers think?
/r/MGTOW03/02/17 10:07 AM
7

It's interesting how the same pattern (80/20) repeats itself over and over again. People are not as free as they think they are. We're basically monkeys on autopilot for the most part.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 09:43 PM
-2

Supporting the alt-right as a MGTOW is like joining the military as a pacifist.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 09:40 PM
-5

Women are not children. They're just fundamentally different. Stop repeating this bullshit meme.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 09:09 PM
3

Let me ask you this: do you think you're lifting only for health and functionality? If lifting produced no aesthetic results but improved your balance, joint mobility, VO2 max, and all the other stuff, would you still do it? I'm asking because I think a lot of the self-improvement crowd suffers from a bad case of the male hamster. They think they're doing things 'for themselves', but forget that a lot of human motivation is subconscious or preconscious. We wouldn't take a woman who claims to wea…
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 07:22 PM
2

Due to rich thirsty betas, women are quickly all becoming hypergamous whores That's not how it works. Thirsty betas and hypergamous women are a manifestation of the underlying reproductive biology. Most men have few options and most women can afford to be picky. It works the same in all sexually dimorphic species. And women have always been hypergamous, except their hypergamy manifested itself in different ways and was constrained by the environment.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 07:07 PM
1

It's difficult in practice not to comply with the rules that truly matter, e.g. taxation, initiation of force by state agents.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 07:52 AM
1

Who gives a shit? Just do your own thing and ignore it. In my experience, people don't care nearly as much about Valentine's day as you think. Making such a big deal about it makes you look desperate.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 12:42 AM
1

What is there on voat, though? It has a much lower population than reddit and most users there seem to be reddit expats who migrated as a protest move against FPH and coontown being banned a while ago, than for any legitimate advantages it has as a platform. You can customize and filter reddit to screen out the cancer and still enjoy the benefits of a larger population and more niche interest subs.
/r/MGTOW01/02/17 12:14 AM
23

How does no one see this? I think men are aware of it (at least on a subconscious level), but the dominance hierarchy is set up in such a way that men lose status and position if they complain about it, so few of them do. The Woman Racket by Steve Moxon goes into a lot more detail.
/r/MGTOW30/01/17 07:30 PM
0

However - also let men disassociate from women's issues and any sort of resource transfer that goes to women. Since this is never going to happen (at least not under the current social and cultural paradigm), abortion is also a male issue. From this perspective, it's probably in men's best interest to pay for abortions rather than pay for welfare and all the associated costs of children.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 06:46 PM
4

In a democracy with a social welfare state, the collective labor of all men can be confiscated to pay for women's Chadspawn. Child support is a relic of the past.
/r/MGTOW29/01/17 04:30 AM
1

/r/incels-tier video.
/r/MGTOW28/01/17 03:42 AM
1

Don't cross-post that shithole.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 05:34 PM
2

That's not necessarily a good sign. I've found that more subscribers generally waters down the quality of content on a subreddit, and encourages memeposting more than thoughtful essays or conversation.
/r/MGTOW27/01/17 05:30 PM
3

US presidents tend to outlive men in their age bracket.
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 01:54 AM
2

wouldn't it be "better" if the advice that people offered on this sub - if any is offered at all - worked for men as a class - and perhaps even better for the class of men likely to have perspectives that land them on a MGTOW subreddit? Well, do you have any to offer?
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 01:43 AM
1

station isn't absolute - it's relative. If every man took x steps to improve himself - the average distribution of traits improves, but the relative station of each man vs his peers is likely to stay the same. In short - in order for the game to be played - some men have to lose, and when it comes to reproduction - where women are biologically predisposed to select only the top men - it's MOST men have to lose - that's the way a dominance hierarchy works. Not every man is taking x steps simultan…
/r/MGTOW25/01/17 12:36 AM
31

There aren't any fat men either. It's almost as if TV producers select moderately-to-highly attractive people to star on their shows.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 09:18 AM
1

Nothing, but a large segment of the userbase here comes from PUA/alt-right circles. The mods don't seem interested in stamping it out, so it's just something we have to live with. It's a shame that apolitical MGTOWs don't have much representation here.
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 09:12 AM
3

Can we stop treating confession-type posts from anonymous imageboards (with a rich tradition of trolling) as somehow authoritative?
/r/MGTOW17/01/17 09:08 AM
2

Chad is a relative term, not an absolute one. Women decide who the Chads are from the current selection of men that are available in their social environment. When the baseline shifts, the Chads of yesteryear become the Beta Bobs of today. Even the "over 6 foot" rule only exists because average heights have gone up in the last 100 years. Consider the Olympic races. The records have all gone up, but there are still only three winners. As long as the rules of the game remain what they are, Chads w…
/r/MGTOW12/01/17 03:16 AM
1

This sounds a lot like Warren Farrell. And as with a lot of his work - it's well-motivated, but misses the biology. One book that is well-motivated and doesn't miss the biology is The Woman Racket by Steven Moxon.
/r/MGTOW29/12/16 01:44 AM
3

The Woman Racket This book should be in the sidebar.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 07:53 PM
2

The quality on this subreddit has gone downhill ever since the 10,000 subscriber mark. Look how many of the top posts are simplistic pictures or screencaps from social media. Those always existed, but the signal to noise ratio is much lower now. We're basically turning into another "post funny memes" subreddit.
/r/MGTOW25/12/16 12:05 AM
1

The same is happening to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW23/12/16 09:52 PM
3

I joined a couple of MGTOW groups on FB what is amazing a few of my friends joined. Are men on FB so open about their affiliation?
/r/MGTOW22/12/16 08:04 AM
2

There's really nothing new about this. It's not Kate Middleton or Disney, it's biology, which has been around for a lot longer, and women have fantasized about marrying high-status princes for aeons. The media is tapping into pre-existing instincts in the human female (shack up with the strongest, most dominant male of the group), not creating those instincts ex nihilo.
/r/MGTOW08/12/16 04:03 AM
1

He's an entertainer who found an audience to pander to and request donations from. I'm willing to bet he believes less than 10% of what he says.
/r/MGTOW03/12/16 07:59 PM
4

This isn't TRP. You don't need to use 'Field Report' in the title.
/r/MGTOW02/12/16 06:22 PM
26

Bill Burr married an obnoxious feminist. Stop referring to his views as if they're MGTOW gospel.
/r/MGTOW02/12/16 02:38 PM
1

Nobody takes the women seriously either.
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 05:49 PM
8

Here's some MGTOW fitness advice: The bodybuilding and fitness industry is dishonest and fraudulent. All supplements are probably useless (including whey protein and creatine) Most people drastically overestimate the amount of muscle they can gain naturally, and the time frame they can do it in. Without drugs, you probably can't gain more than 15-20 lbs of muscle over a lifetime. It's impossible to achieve the look of fitness models and professionals (including YouTube fitness celebs and bodygui…
/r/MGTOW01/12/16 05:16 PM
4

Your choice. Good luck.
/r/MGTOW30/11/16 05:03 AM
2

No, I don't give a shit about 'developing' women. That sounds like a lot of work with almost no meaningful payoff. I'll let the PUAs and tradcons take care of that.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 01:33 PM
1

No. At that age your worldview is in a huge amount of flux, and you don't have enough life experience to commit to any belief system or ideology. Finish high school, wait 10 years and spend less time on the internet.
/r/MGTOW27/11/16 01:30 PM
1

there is a purpose, at least from an evolutionary perspective. There is a teleonomy but not a teleology.
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 02:37 PM
1

i'm not political and I don't care. if it ever gets bad enough - I'll just check out. and I don't care about anyone else enough to get involved. i have no children and I have no skin in the game. no legacy. don't give a shit about the MRM, and I don't care about any movement at all. Don't you think that Western civilization is worth preserving, even at the cost of subordinating ones own selfish interests to do so? Everything around you is due to the labor of people who cared enough about the fut…
/r/MGTOW22/11/16 02:44 AM
1

To the extent that existence is a good thing A doubtful assumption.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 09:34 PM
1

Feminism is just female nature writ large. Colttaine's video Biology Culture Ideology is one of the better videos on this topic.
/r/MGTOW08/11/16 01:27 PM
1

post-political Even within the constraints of human nature, there is a wide variety of possible ways that society can organize itself. Would you rather live in South Korea or North Korea?
/r/MGTOW04/11/16 01:44 PM
1

natural alphas are unaware of a lot of stuff, because life comes easy to them in a lot of ways. The same is probably true for nearly all women...
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 08:20 PM
1

Well, in hindsight, do you prefer being the alpha or the outcast?
/r/MGTOW03/11/16 01:29 PM
1

I'm a fan of Houellebecq, but I always thought his writing appeals more to TFLers than to anyone with a MGTOW disposition. Whatever is about a depressed computer programmer suffering from a long dry spell, and his work acquaintance, a man who would fit into any incel forum around today. The message of the book is that sexual liberalism is just as bad as economic liberalism, because both systems create a lot of losers and only a small number of winners. I don't have anything against celibate men …
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 07:16 PM
1

The men I know in relationships have a lot of negatives. How many do you know?
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 01:41 PM
1

I try to notice when things grab my attention, seem pleasant, or alleviate my suffering. Then I try to create those conditions again. Any specifics? My approach is similar to yours and I'm curious about your preferences.
/r/MGTOW02/11/16 02:29 AM
1

What's your end-game plan?
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 10:53 PM
0

lol
/r/MGTOW01/11/16 12:53 AM
5

Not a Serb, but I admire your ability to remove kebab. Please continue to remove kebab.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 09:33 PM
1

Sounds like you're a fan of the 3DPD attitude.
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 08:57 PM
2

Got any good stories of your married life?
/r/MGTOW31/10/16 01:21 AM
1

The 80/20 rule doesn't mean that 80% of men are virgins, just as wealth inequality doesn't mean that everyone outside of the 1% is homeless.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 11:55 PM
3

This is what years of drug & alcohol abuse, Chad-chasing and clubbing will do to you.
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 11:45 PM
2

Harambe Bundle A gorilla-themed game bundle is actually not a bad idea...
/r/MGTOW30/10/16 02:20 PM
1

Manipulated Man The problem with that book is that Esther Vilar is a social constructivist, and thinks men and women are identical except for the social roles that were invented to benefit women at the expense of men. Vilar's thesis is that women are conning men in what amounts to a deliberate conspiracy, and if only they were unmasked, then we would have an equal society. She argues for what is basically the inversion of the patriarchy theory, with women as the oppressors and men as the victims…
/r/MGTOW29/10/16 03:26 PM
10

This is a troll campaign from /pol/. The intended effect is to siphon votes away from Hillary by convincing the public that she wants to conscript the wimminz (you know, the thing that men have had to deal with for millennia), and we can't possibly allow that to happen, because... because vagina!!
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 08:21 PM
1

This has been predicted for years. I'll believe it when it's available on pharmacy shelves.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 02:05 PM
5

The best bet in my opinion is to dress as well as you can, stay in as good shape as you can and improve yourself as a man as much as you can, but for your own benefit, not for anyone elses. How is this any different from a woman who claims that she wears high heels and a short skirt 'for herself'? Nobody takes her seriously, why should it be any different with you? The reality is that you're still competing in the SMV. On a subconscious level, you're still trying to attract women. You're 'leavin…
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 02:03 PM
6

I realized all of them had some sort of family issues or severe baggage The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than that.
/r/MGTOW28/10/16 01:50 PM
8

Lmao. When the wife 'opens up' the marriage and you accept it like an obedient dog, that's a sign that she has your balls in her purse.
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 04:29 PM
5

'Chemicals in your brain' are real and they're responsible for 100% of your personality, feelings and thoughts.
/r/MGTOW27/10/16 01:53 AM
16

Irrelevant to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 05:27 PM
7

Lmao. Maybe she would have benefited from those mandatory consent classes that they force undergrads to take.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 05:14 PM
4

I will not tolerate any sexual comments unless you're Chad.
/r/MGTOW26/10/16 04:28 PM
10

Sexual revolution + Contraception => STDs + Single motherhood
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 03:32 PM
10

Those /r/atheism talking points are 10 years past their expiration date. I hope you're trolling, because making such a big deal about a casual mention of a 'fictional character' is a sign of major social retardation.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 03:20 PM
2

It's the vagina premium.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 03:07 PM
3

Depends on the woman. With makeup, good grooming, proper diet and exercise, plastic surgery, and of course, good genetics, some women can hold onto their looks for a longer period.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 03:04 PM
7

A man is guilty until proven innocent. Fucking cunts.
/r/MGTOW25/10/16 04:01 AM
2

Irrelevant to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 10:02 PM
18

Guys younger than 25 who 'go their own way' after a single bad experience tend to be the 'one blowjob away' type that are back to doing whatever it was that they were doing within a couple of days/weeks/months.
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 09:56 PM
1

The answer is still no... Women will fuck rich guys but they're not attracted to them on a visceral level (not if wealth is the only thing they have going for them).
/r/MGTOW24/10/16 03:54 PM
4

There might be some religious repression thing going on in this case, but most 'normal' women decide if they want to fuck you within a few seconds. If a man hasn't had any sexual contact by the 3rd date he's in deep shit anyway, and likely being set up for betabux / orbiter status.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 05:55 PM
2

It's just bullshit. Most men would prefer a real woman over a bunch of pixels on a screen.
/r/MGTOW23/10/16 02:54 PM
14

The irony is that Steve Jobs wasn't even a good coder. He was a brilliant marketer and visionary, but he delegated all the boring tech stuff to engineers like Steve Wozniak.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 04:47 PM
11

Men who are guilty of sex crimes (against minors or otherwise) are never introduced in this way. It's always "This man is a monster regardless of anything that may have happened in his life, lock him up and throw away the key". Many men have also been sexual abuse victims, yet they get the axe while she gets a slap on the wrist.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 04:18 PM
7

Female fertility enters a steep decline at 30 and drops off a cliff at 40.
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 04:14 PM
43

The sex ratio in Russia is partly responsible here, but this also what happens when women enter the labor force en masse and have comparable incomes to men. Their hypergamic hindbrains are programmed to go after men with more resources than them, so they think that most men aren't good enough for them anymore, effectively shutting them out of the only market open to them. This creates a generation of aging spinsters complaining about there being "no good men", when in fact they simply rejected a…
/r/MGTOW22/10/16 04:13 PM
1

Any suggestions?
/r/MGTOW19/10/16 03:18 PM
1

certainty of paternity and reproductive legacy - the nuclear family. I have a small issue with this. The nuclear family (mom + dad + 2.5 kids) is a fairly recent innovation that emerged only after ~200 years of industrialism. The independent two-parent household wasn't a standard living arrangement until fairly recently (say, the 1800's). Before industrialism, the extended family and the tribe were the fundamental social units. It was far more common for people to live communally in multi-genera…
/r/MGTOW18/10/16 06:08 PM
57

Flip the genders and this ends up on the front page of jezebel.com as an example of 'male entitlement'.
/r/MGTOW12/10/16 11:51 PM
1

Great way to put it. However, let me ask you this: Do you think a man needs to 'get it out of his system', so to speak, when it comes to acquiring wealth / health / sex / power, before he can fully appreciate MGTOW? I'm asking because MGTOW could very well become a coping mechanism for some men to never try in the first place, or to justify their lack of success. Does the personal experience of burnout need to precede any serious commitment to MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW11/10/16 11:01 PM
1

What do you think about this interpretation of male disposability from Heartiste's Fundamental Premise? Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. Every psychological dynamic you see playing out in mass societies liberated from artificial constraints on the sexual market flows from this premise. This means, as a systemic matter, women are coddled, men are upbraided. Women are victims, men are victimizers. Women need a leg up, men need to man up. Women have advocacy groups, men have equal opportunity vi…
/r/MGTOW10/10/16 02:02 PM
2

A good way to put it is that blue-pillers pedestalize individual women, while PUAs pedestalize the female gender as a whole.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 09:30 PM
10

No, his personality is textbook dark triad - narcissistic, psychopathic and Machiavellian - which qualifies him for alphahood. Being 6'2'' and a billionaire doesn't hurt.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 09:03 PM
5

Is that you, /u/throwaway_mgtow?
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 09:01 PM
1

Have you disengaged economically from the system in any way?
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 12:03 PM
11

feminism has basically ruined the fundamental nature of M-F relationships by effectively depolarizing the natural biology of gender. She has the causality backwards. Ideologies like feminism really don't have much impact on human behavior, and especially male-female interactions, even though everyone from tradcons to alt-righters to leftists seem to think they do. Human nature is far more fundamental, and interactions between human nature and the environment come in close second. Feminism is a b…
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 11:44 AM
2

Plenty of narcissistic imbeciles and damaged pretty boys are alphas.
/r/MGTOW09/10/16 11:40 AM
1

The patriarchy did this.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 10:04 PM
2

Let me rephrase that: They don't need individual men to act as beta providers anymore, because the amenities of civilization have advanced to a point where women can leech off of men as a collective, through welfare, easy / non-physical affirmative action jobs, preferential tax spending, convenient contraception, etc. The entire male population has effectively been conscripted to serve women at the point of a gun, without any of the social or sexual benefits that they used to expect in return.
/r/MGTOW08/10/16 01:45 PM
22

The new trend towards 'polyamory' is actually a return to harems. Women are now ditching the last vestiges of monogamy to fully indulge in their AFBB instincts. Of course, it gets dressed up in all the progressive rhetoric you can imagine, with people treating it as some kind of civil rights frontier, but in the end, humans are going back to the jungle when it comes to our mating patterns. Without cultural and legal constraints, a beta in a marriage always has a weaker hand than his wife. She co…
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 09:50 PM
2

Don't leave her alone? Unless you have absolutely no responsibilities outside of your relationship with her, or you keep her chained in the basement, there's no way to keep watch over an adult woman 24/7. She's going to be alone at some point, and if the right Chad shows up at the right moment, that primitive part of her brain will turn on and she's going to swing branches.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:52 PM
15

More like Cursed Item.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 01:45 PM
1

What video was that from?
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:41 AM
5

It's the sexy son hypothesis at work. Women love criminal bad boys, therefore bearing the sons of criminal bad boys guarantees that your sons will also be adored by other women.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:39 AM
6

You're going to get 50 different answers to your questions because MGTOW isn't a movement - it's a loose description of a very narrow choice that men have made with respect to the opposite sex. The rest is up in the air.
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:31 AM
3

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of MGTOWers are guys who are basically just red pill aware 'betas' (men in the 50-80% of SMV) Why is this a problem? Are betas not allowed to adopt a philosophy that promotes their own interests?
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:22 AM
15

NO excuse for a girl to be over 25yrs. Hit the gym bitch!
/r/MGTOW07/10/16 03:08 AM
2

Alphas don't monopolize women completely. Betas and even omegas do occasionally get laid, it's just that alphas have far more opportunities and more sexual access on average. Alphas can get more interest in an afternoon than a beta gets in a decade. Here's a thought experiment: Guy X has sex with Girl A Guy Y has sex with Girl B Guy Z has sex with Girl C Guy W (top 20%er) has sex with A,B,C Neither X,Y,Z or W are virgins. So the raw virginity statistics (assuming we had them) wouldn't be particu…
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 03:25 PM
1

Where does it say that in the article?
/r/MGTOW06/10/16 03:19 PM
1

If you could go back to your 20's, would you do anything different?
/r/MGTOW04/10/16 02:12 PM
1

Isn't the essence of capitalism "stealing" from workers? I mean, where do the profits of capitalists come from: "working hard" or ownership? I doubt the average CEO works 300 times harder than their employees. Capitalism depends on paying workers less than what they can produce and pocketing the difference, otherwise where do profits come from? How is that not taking other people's wealth? (and we're not even discussing wage theft) It seems like the entire system is set up to take money away fro…
/r/MGTOW30/09/16 01:30 AM
1

Men die more from suicide attempts because they use more lethal means. Women attempt at roughly the same rate as men, but prefer less lethal means (poisoning, etc.), so they don't die as often.
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 11:25 PM
2

the costs/efforts/heartbreak required to attract and maintain a relationship far outweighs the benefits. Care to expand on what led you to believe this?
/r/MGTOW29/09/16 11:08 PM
5

Typical epsilon male, complaining about being put into a box.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 03:50 PM
1

Plenty of men find overweight and obese women attractive and would gladly sleep with them (or at least, their standards are low enough that they don't care). This is only a reflection of your own standards and not something that can be quantified objectively.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:41 PM
2

Cuckoldry is an extremely common fetish, going by internet search results. I guess tens of millions of men are 'intellectuals'.
/r/MGTOW28/09/16 01:18 PM
1

I only have a couple of things to add to this. First, I don't think religion is exclusively about 'myth, drama, deep instinctual subconscious', etc. While that's certainly an important aspect of it, religion is more than a self-help philosophy, and there are other aspects of it that clearly cross over into 'naive science' territory, e.g. cosmology, biology, history, philosophy of mind, etc. where the empirical sciences have something to say. For example, it's hard to square off the Genesis accou…
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 07:38 PM
4

Looks like the Asian genetics completely overpowered the Caucasian ones. That is, unless she cheated with an Asian Chad.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 05:15 PM
11

The normalization of STDs is nothing to celebrate.
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 04:58 PM
2

I'd argue that it's impossible to know, in an experiential sense, what's behind that door, because death is the absence of experience. We may know in an abstract sense that death is nothingness, but direct empirical validation is impossible. Thus that which is the most awful of evils, death, is nothing to us, since when we exist there is no death, and when there is death we do not exist. -Epicurus
/r/MGTOW26/09/16 04:00 PM
3

I've had some harrowing experiences with women that were sexually fluid. The stuff of nightmares - seriously. I don't mean to pry, but I'm sure a lot of men here would be interested in hearing some of your tales, if you're willing to share.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 04:52 AM
5

No one is 'born to' do anything. We are born with certain biological propensities that may or may not be acted on given the right circumstances.
/r/MGTOW25/09/16 02:16 AM
16

People who are treated like royalty wherever they go tend to become dysfunctional and delusional. Being born with a silver spoon in your mouth and never encountering any serious hardship or obstacle is bad for a person's psychological development. As much as it involves a lot of suffering, it's important for people to understand early on that there are limits in life, and that many of their desires will be frustrated by reality. You only have to look at members of royal families who are major pr…
/r/MGTOW24/09/16 05:03 PM
15

While I don't like to speculate about other people's relationship status, it's a well known fact that Zuckerberg was involved with Chan for several years before he made his Facebook billions. I think Zuckerberg is under the impression that their past together proves that she's been 'vetted' for not being a gold digger. He would rather choose a plain but faithful woman over a bombshell that could turn on him in a matter of years, and now that he's a high-profile figure, there's a large target pai…
/r/MGTOW23/09/16 06:47 PM
16

The military is a microcosm of society.
/r/MGTOW22/09/16 01:23 AM
3

What do you think are some of the biggest differences in how men and women categorize things?
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 05:24 PM
1

If there aren't any relationships, it's because men aren't buying the shit products on display. Or maybe women are ultra-hypergamous and aren't interested in the vast majority of men anymore, now that they can get resources elsewhere.
/r/MGTOW20/09/16 12:31 PM
7

And not a single mention of the word "rape" in the article itself.
/r/MGTOW18/09/16 05:40 PM
73

"Women like guys who act disinterested" has to be the most retarded, Cosmo-esque trope in the manosphere. The reality is that women like guys who are high value (attractive, high status). A guy who displays hard-to-fake signals of genetic quality will get female interest no matter what. Women couldn't be happier that ugly betas do their own thing and pay no attention to them. It only saves them the inconvenience of rejecting them. Likewise, they couldn't be happier when an alpha shows interest i…
/r/MGTOW17/09/16 09:09 PM
4

That was an extremely insightful video. I'm sure it will be ignored here.
/r/MGTOW15/09/16 07:41 PM
4

I mean if places like that were in every corner it would change the sexual market entirely. Many countries in Europe have fully legalized prostitution and yet the dynamics of the SMP are unchanged. Why do you think men in these cities still date and marry if they can just walk down to the nearest brothel and get all their needs met? Are they stupid?
/r/MGTOW14/09/16 12:34 AM
1

At what age did you get your vasectomy? Did you experience any side-effects (pain, etc.)?
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 06:46 PM
11

Ctrl-F "rape" Phrase not found
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 06:41 PM
14

Assuming this isn't a bait thread, you seem to identify more with /r/FeMRA and the egalitarian movement than with /r/MGTOW. This isn't intended as an insult, but you seem to have a lot more to say about the excesses and hypocrisy of feminism than about MGTOW philosophy, which leads me to believe that you don't know MGTOW very well. Although this may be difficult for 'outsiders' to understand, we aren't actually interested in bringing about political and social equality, because we consider that …
/r/MGTOW12/09/16 06:26 PM
13

Health at any size, shitlord.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 04:11 PM
2

Where have all the good rich men cucks gone now that Chad doesn't want me anymore?
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 04:09 PM
2

Say what you want about the manosphere and red pill types, at least they make decent memes. When blue-pillers attempt to beat us at our own game they produce some of the most forced and unfunny memes I've yet to see.
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 06:42 AM
30

It's unfortunate that /r/TheRedPill has become the central online hub for PUA (or "Game" as they like to call it), because that promotes a conceptual confusion. The Red Pill is not the same thing as PUA. All PUAs (most?) are red pilled, but not all red pillers are PUAs. Chateau Heartiste and Rollo Tomassi are red pilled, but so are Stardusk and Colttaine. TRP is the underlying philosophy of the "manosphere". The guiding principle of TRP is to look at humans as the evolved apes that we are, irrat…
/r/MGTOW10/09/16 06:08 AM
7

The interesting thing about Schopenhauer is that he wrote his major works half a century before Darwin published On the Origin of the Species, and he died just a year after it was published. Yet he still had remarkable insight for someone who was operating in a pre-evolutionary framework, and who had to go by personal experience and observation. He was also one of the first thinkers in the West to read Eastern philosophy and incorporate it into his own system. He had a lot more respect for Easte…
/r/MGTOW08/09/16 11:24 PM
1

I disagree with Heartiste's PUA spin, but he has a gift with words when it comes to elucidating the male condition.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 10:06 PM
13

Observation, analysis and reflection over an extended period of time are the root of someone truly becoming a MGTOW for life. Not "Jeepers, my most recent girlfriend is such a bitch, and after just yesterday breaking up with her, I'M DUN WIF WIMMINZ FOREVA!" The latter is akin to the post-hangover vow to "never drink again." It's not that such hangover lessons never result in someone eventually learning to moderate / control their alcohol consumption, it's just that the "vow" really can't be tak…
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 05:13 PM
3

smart, motivated, educated, fit, low cock count, mentally stable, financially savvy, common interests This online dating site would be called Unicorn Hunters.
/r/MGTOW07/09/16 03:53 PM
6

Women will put up with anything for Chad.
/r/MGTOW05/09/16 11:43 PM
5

We have to lower the evil patriarchal standards so that wimminz can play GI Barbie.
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 11:14 PM
15

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal."
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 08:46 PM
4

These magazines wouldn't be successful if they didn't appeal to pre-existing human instincts and drives. It's like saying that the prevalence of online pornography is the root cause of men being attracted to women. The biology of the underlying behavior was hardwired over hundreds of thousands of years on this planet and it didn't just spring up out of nowhere. Our preferences weren't invented by advertisers, advertisers merely discovered what our preferences actually are and figured out a way t…
/r/MGTOW03/09/16 04:43 AM
9

A drunk woman isn't responsible for her actions. A drunk driver is.
/r/MGTOW01/09/16 06:14 AM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny
/r/MGTOW31/08/16 02:07 AM
4

Try this.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 11:37 PM
13

Alas, not all MGTOWs are fortunate enough to live in countries where firearms are (a) legal to own and (b) legal to use in self-defense.
/r/MGTOW30/08/16 12:15 AM
6

RIP Western gender relations. RIP Western birth rates.
/r/MGTOW29/08/16 04:29 PM
21

You can find different bits and pieces of that profile throughout the online dating sphere. OP managed to put it all together.
/r/MGTOW28/08/16 06:23 PM
3

What are you doing on dating sites...?
/r/MGTOW27/08/16 05:12 AM
3

But... but then you don't have validation and love!
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 06:39 PM
-3

4/10
/r/MGTOW28/07/16 06:38 PM
2

Upvoted for the giant pussy spaceship.
/r/MGTOW21/07/16 01:13 PM
10

It's a crime to talk to them, and it's also a crime not to talk to them. Only Chad wins.
/r/MGTOW18/07/16 11:40 PM
1

OK, fair enough. Props to you.
/r/MGTOW12/07/16 01:30 AM
11

I guess we're not allowed to share personal anecdotes about our experiences because they don't live up to the standards of scientific evidence. OP should have secured funding for a pilot study and published the results here. I'm willing to bet that you don't go on pro-feminist subreddits telling them "Your anecdote is invalid, hah!"
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 06:58 PM
12

Well, she's not wrong. Dick is abundant and generally low-value. She's doing a public service by exposing what a hypergamous shit-fest online dating has become.
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 12:59 PM
11

I don't think this audience needs to be reminded not to become a beta provider for a former carousel rider that suddenly "learns her lessons" and "grows up" (oh, and she also doesn't do blowjobs anymore).
/r/MGTOW11/07/16 12:56 PM
8

This is actually illegal.
/r/MGTOW10/07/16 05:09 PM
10

Female materialism and attraction to resources is all men's fault... what?
/r/MGTOW10/07/16 02:17 PM
5

These blue-pillers are trying really hard lately. It's kind of sad.
/r/MGTOW09/07/16 11:12 PM
4

Welcome to the new right, same as the old right.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 11:55 PM
8

The only solution to discord between the genders is providing affordable cosmetic surgery and legalizing anabolic steroids, so that men can more easily meet the physical standards women require. This is sluthate-tier retardation. Providing these things will only shift the baseline of what women consider attractive. Plastic surgery clinics on every street corner to cater to female whims would be a colossal waste of societal resources.
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 10:07 PM
50

Now which one of you will step up like a real man and pick up the tab? Fellows?
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 09:46 PM
2

Have PUA’s or “neo masculinists” or whatever they call themselves these days become so desperate to resurrect the sleeping goddess of Nawalt from their alter of pussy worship that they have resorted to having sick pipe dreams about ww3 to make it easier for them to get laid? Turd Flinging Monkey revealed his own delusional fantasies of male culling in some of his recent videos. Funny how these closet tradcon pseudo-MGTOWs are sounding a lot like those "Kill all men" radfems...
/r/MGTOW08/07/16 12:54 PM
3

I appreciate your honesty. I guess my point is, why call it Buddhism at that point? If you strip-mine a religion for everything you like and ignore the rituals, the myths, the hierarchy, and the supernatural beliefs, is it really "Buddhism"? What you're left with is a set of practices that are somewhat supported by evidence, stripped of all the "meat" that makes religions what they are in the first place. "Buddhism" becomes more of a brand name than a meaningful label. Here's an analogy: let's s…
/r/MGTOW06/07/16 01:56 PM
4

Don't fall for trendy Eastern religions. They're just as unfounded as the Western equivalents.
/r/MGTOW06/07/16 12:54 PM
2

The "it's just feminism" meme will never die, because it allows closet tradcons and manginas to deny female agency. Ideological feminism may be falling out of fashion, but maintaining the interests of women will not. The interests of women have always, and will always take political priority.
/r/MGTOW05/07/16 09:47 PM
2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_developed_country
/r/MGTOW04/07/16 08:49 PM
3

Troll account.
/r/MGTOW03/07/16 08:27 PM
12

The daring market isn't warped, it's returning to the baseline of ancestral polygyny. It was the civilized environment that created artificial monogamy in spite of our nature.
/r/MGTOW03/07/16 08:26 PM
3

The Big Three: barbarossa, Stardusk, Colttaine
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 01:10 PM
10

The main reason women are not getting married is because men are pulling out of the market. Disagree. If anything, it's the other way around. The main reason men are pulling out of the market is because women don't want to get married (there are also secondary factors like a revolt against the salaryman lifestyle and the insane Japanese educational system). If anything, this lends support to the "universal female psychology" theory. Women from all cultures and backgrounds tend to react in simila…
/r/MGTOW29/06/16 01:30 PM
3

If Colttaine is right, the only way to bring back the "golden age" of marriage and solve the single motherhood problem would be to de-industrialize society and ban hormonal birth control. Not going to happen. Western marriage is a zombie institution.
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 07:31 PM
19

Any bright color qualifies.
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 07:19 PM
31

Obligatory red hair.
/r/MGTOW28/06/16 05:09 PM
4

Brexit likely won't even move the needle on immigration. If qualified European candidates get job offers in the UK do you think the government is going to refuse them visas? Qualified European candidates are not the problem with immigration. Trade isn't a global conspiracy. Globalization has led to massive wealth inequality and immiseration for the bottom 90% of the population. Whether we like it or not, those people have started to speak up about it, on both sides of the Atlantic.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 03:22 PM
-8

/pol/ cancer is everywhere these days.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 03:18 PM
3

Jason Alexander gave an amazing performance as George.
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 06:13 AM
2

Just go to the Red Pill glossary. Our terminology is practically the same: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2zckqu/updated_glossary_of_terms_and_acronyms/
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 06:10 AM
-1

I can offer a red pill explanation for why red-pillers support slut shaming. There's a concept in evopsych called the Madonna-whore complex (it actually originated in the psychoanalytic field, and feminists also have a lot to say about it, although not quite in the same context). Basically, the idea is that men evolved to either perceive women as reliable partners that they can invest resources into and who won't cuckold them, or as unreliable partners that aren't worth the long-term investment …
/r/ExRedPill24/06/16 06:00 AM
2

Red pill theories are just collections of observations, anecdotes, evopsych models, etc. that attempt to explain how men and women interact from an evolutionary perspective (their validity is another question entirely). The slut-shaming is an attitude that many red-pillers seem to hold independently of the theories themselves. I think it's hypocritical for them to do so, since their own goals wouldn't be possible without sluts, but that's beside the point. You could theoretically be a feminist a…
/r/ExRedPill24/06/16 05:43 AM
-1

Why do you need a pro-slut version? Just apply red pill theories if you think they're valid and ignore whatever slut shaming does occur. TRP is already de-facto pro-slut since their own behavior feeds into the problem.
/r/ExRedPill24/06/16 05:28 AM
4

Blue Pill x-post in 3, 2, 1...
/r/MGTOW24/06/16 05:21 AM
10

Nice story, but it probably didn't happen.
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 07:35 PM
-1

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=hb6
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 01:12 PM
3

Mechanization enabled women to earn their own income independent of their husbands. Add to that welfare, affirmative action, and other means of handing over money to women, and suddenly the biggest leverage that the average man used to have over women (economics) vanishes. Since women are hypergamous and demand men who earn more than them, a large segment of men are no longer considered "good".
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 01:06 PM
2

"Seduced"
/r/MGTOW22/06/16 01:01 PM
1

I would add to this excellent list: Don't save for retirement in the conventional way (401k's, pension plans, etc.). By the time you reach your 60's and 70's, the Ponzi schemes and bubbles that hold up the financial system will have collapsed, and a lot of people who are expecting to live off their investments will be left in the street with nothing.
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 01:50 PM
5

OP repeats tradcon soundbites... If men had it so easy in the good old days, why does the number of human female ancestors far outnumber the male ones, especially during the Neolithic period? It's almost as if hypergamy was operating back then just as it does today. It didn't start with Facebook or the iPhone FFS, it started with evolution. Those technological factors accentuated a basic biology that was already in place.
/r/MGTOW21/06/16 01:36 PM
39

This is putting the cart before the horse. It's not the man's treatment of a woman that determines if she'll "love him forever" or "say he's just too nice". Instead, the man's treatment is a manifestation of his SMV and position in the dominance hierarchy. An alpha Chad can afford to treat women like shit because he has many other options. A beta or omega has few options, so they cling to any prospect for dear life. The important thing is that Chad always wins, and his treatment of women is basi…
/r/MGTOW19/06/16 02:34 PM
0

3/10
/r/MGTOW18/06/16 03:25 PM
2

There have been studies done that show women have a 2:1 advantage over men in STEM fields in terms of getting hired.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 10:44 PM
5

Profiles like this are extremely common. They should convince any man who's paying attention that online dating is hypergamy on steroids, and serves mainly to connect Chad to his sexual buffet.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 10:32 PM
7

She doesn't need to be intelligent because she has a vagina, the most valuable commodity in the known universe. Betas with PhDs in mechanical engineering with step over each other to stick their hydraulic semen pumps into her receptacle.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 10:26 PM
6

Crybullies.
/r/MGTOW17/06/16 02:38 PM
75

This is a popular analysis in red pill / tradcon circles. By including the "modern" adjective, the implication is that pre-modern, pre-feminist women were somehow different. As MGTOWs have said over and over again, if modernity or feminism is the root cause of women's behavior, as red pillers / tradcons / white nationalists like to claim, rather than an enabler or catalyst, it absolves them of any responsibility for their actions, and we don't have to see how far the rabbit hole actually goes, o…
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 03:16 PM
6

Being in touch with reality doesn't make you a cynic.
/r/MGTOW16/06/16 03:03 PM
1

I use "low status" to refer to men who fall in the bottom 80% of attractiveness (since women only consider the top 20% of men to be attractive), have under-expressed dark triad traits, and possibly suffer from various social pathologies.
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 07:58 PM
5

Women hate low status men and they consider MGTOW to be low status, judging by the vitriol at /r/niceguys, /r/thebluepill, and other harassment subs. Relevant.
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 07:00 PM
6

Michelle Obama knows what it takes to be a man, being one herself, after all.
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 06:22 PM
0

2/10. Build up some more karma on the account first.
/r/MGTOW15/06/16 01:23 PM
15

Just another long winded boring diatribe by a delusional angry feminist. Beware if you frequent prostitutes, because you might have to deal with women like this.
/r/MGTOW14/06/16 02:41 PM
2

5/10. Good effort but a bit too unrealistic.
/r/MGTOW14/06/16 02:31 PM
3

Don't follow your passion. The odds that you are actually good at what you are passionate about are tiny and you end up wasting time. I have a small objection here. It's not necessarily that the odds of being good at an activity that you're passionate about are tiny, but that your passion is likely shared by millions of other people. The fact that it's a passion means it's likely fun (music, art, etc.), and millions of people like to have fun. So when it comes to any passion, you're competing ag…
/r/MGTOW13/06/16 02:03 PM
3

That doesn't really matter though, because the instinctual and emotional suite that we evolved is calibrated for an environment without guns or modern technology. In the ancestral environment, the 6'4 guy would have easily overpowered and killed the 5'5 guy. On a gut level, we're more likely to consider the 6'4 tribal chief to be "alpha", simply because of our evolutionary history, even if modern firearms technology has leveled the playing field in the last ~150 years.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 05:01 PM
2

blue knight tears This needs to become a thing.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 01:50 PM
9

The amount of hatred that weak men get is unbelievable. They're the only group of people that it's biologically OK to hate without any guilt or remorse, and there are no social consequences for it.
/r/MGTOW12/06/16 01:45 PM
5

Always remember: society will throw you into the trash heap as soon as you're no longer useful. Women will discard you without remorse as soon as Chad comes along.
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 05:00 PM
3

MGTOW is just as much anti-tradcon as it is anti-feminist...
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 03:15 PM
11

I think a lot of criticism of AWALT stems from a basic misunderstanding (sometimes deliberate) of what it actually means. It doesn't mean that every single woman on the planet is exactly the same. Instead, AWALT is a statistical generalization based on the observed behavior of women in aggregate. Women as a group tend more towards hypergamy, AFBB, and other dynamics, than men do. You can find evidence of this from dating site statistics, marriage statistics, and a lot of other places. Since the …
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 02:57 PM
1

same height as Arnold Schwarzenegger Arnold isn't particularly tall...
/r/MGTOW11/06/16 02:05 AM
1

Not sexism but inherent gynocentrism. You'll find the same catering to women in even the most "patriarchal" and "oppressive" societies.
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 01:01 PM
1

Depot medroxyprogesterone acetate
/r/MGTOW10/06/16 01:25 AM
5

Your success at doing that depends on many factors that are outside of your control, though.
/r/MGTOW09/06/16 07:54 PM
10

But at least you're getting it on the reg, right?
/r/MGTOW08/06/16 03:16 PM
21

Health at any size, you misogynist shitlord! I still expect men to be ripped and <10% body fat
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 09:45 PM
6

Eventually, the estate of dead men will be confiscated to pay post-mortem alimony, and after both parties are dead, the relatives of the husband will be forced to pay the relatives of the wife.
/r/MGTOW07/06/16 12:51 PM
7

We have a lot of trolls / infiltrators from TBP currently. Just keep your head down until they get distracted by some other shitlords. MGTOW doesn't really need the outrage.
/r/MGTOW04/06/16 02:46 AM
2

Obvious troll.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 10:37 PM
-7

What you have to understand about subs like /r/thebluepill, /r/niceguys, and /r/justneckbeardthings, among others, is that they're basically hateful harassment subs operated by manginas and misandric women, on the same level as /r/fatpeoplehate or /r/coontown. Their entire purpose is to doxx and humiliate men who don't share their ideology. A lot of their content is just thinly veiled female hatred for low status / unattractive men. Don't try to engage these people or reason with them, since the…
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 04:24 PM
1

Source?
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 04:01 PM
8

They don't reconcile it. "Tradcon MGTOW", like their white nationalist counterparts, are essentially treating MGTOW as a temporary hangout until women are nice to them again, or until their "work contract" is improved (better marriage laws, etc.). They have a superficial understanding of the core MGTOW philosophy, and are "one blowjob away from jumping ship", as barbarossa used to say.
/r/MGTOW02/06/16 03:26 PM
3

The tendency of society A to claim that society B oppresses their women is so common that it's remarkable there isn't a term for it in the social sciences. Keep that in mind when some white nationalist or alt-righter tells you that you have to protect "your" women from the "real patriarchy".
/r/MGTOW01/06/16 03:46 PM
1

I predict Depp will be married again within 2 years. Super-high status men never learn their lesson when they have models throwing themselves at them and millions of dollars to burn.
/r/MGTOW31/05/16 01:14 PM
20

I think gender roles are a regressive patriarchal construct I only want strong, successful alpha males
/r/MGTOW30/05/16 01:02 PM
-1

You might be in the wrong subreddit.
/r/MGTOW29/05/16 04:57 PM
14

This is standard practice in professional women's sports. Women's teams tend to practice against male highschoolers, because that's their level of performance. They'll be playing against other women in the Olympics, so it's not an issue.
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 12:55 PM
6

It would have been thrown out of court anyway.
/r/MGTOW26/05/16 12:51 PM
35

But don't you understand? In the SJW twilight zone, 100% women = 100% diversity.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 02:46 PM
9

If the trend continues, once VR porn becomes widely available, rape hysteria will approach infinity.
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 02:44 PM
1

"You must be Chad Thundercock to be MGTOW or else you're just like Elliot Rodger."
/r/MGTOW24/05/16 02:39 PM
3

Marry her for $180M, lose $90M 2 years later when she decides to divorce, come out $90M ahead for two years of work. Seems worth it.
/r/MGTOW23/05/16 04:37 PM
29

Anti-feminism is the new feminism.
/r/MGTOW22/05/16 05:19 PM
16

Get likes and "ur so hot" comments (mainly from other women, hoping to have the self-esteem boost returned on their own selfies). Don't forget the thirsty beta orbiters.
/r/MGTOW22/05/16 04:23 PM
4

A lot of people are ignorant of internet meme culture.
/r/MGTOW20/05/16 12:55 PM
19

Well, it certainly isn't the physical labor.
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 04:01 PM
7

Canada is the next country after Sweden that most deserves the title of "Saudi Arabia of Feminism"
/r/MGTOW19/05/16 03:59 PM
2

So what exactly does nationalism mean to you? What are you willing to give up for it?
/r/MGTOW18/05/16 01:03 PM
27

If women were subject to the same selection pressure as men in the dating market, and were treated as cruelly as women treat men, it would be considered a global humanitarian crisis.
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 07:45 PM
5

If the "race red pill" is used to bludgeon men to fall in line with white nationalism or some other gynocentric ideology, then no, I don't think most MGTOW would take it. Since you have posts in several subreddits that would fall under the "white nationalism" category, I assume that's why you mention it. The unspoken argument every time the "race red pill" is brought up is that if racial differences are real, then MGTOW have to accept their male disposability and sacrifice themselves for their t…
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 07:36 PM
6

MGTOW is for men going away from the gynocentric forces in our society, it is for male independence and male sovereignty, it is not some bargaining mechanism between desperate white nationalists holding their breath waiting for white women to be nice to them again, it is not a labor strike in response to the price of pussy being too high, and it never will be.
/r/MGTOW17/05/16 02:44 PM
2

And yet it's women who are supposedly objectified.
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 07:49 PM
9

Women have always been "100% trash". Traditionalist societies just know how to sweep it under the rug and convince men to be like the guy in the bottom right panel here. Under feminism, female nature is just out in the open and freed from any cultural restraints.
/r/MGTOW16/05/16 04:21 AM
14

Full album by the same artist: https://imgur.com/a/odxAV
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 08:32 PM
4

Might as well link to the whole album: https://imgur.com/a/odxAV
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 08:19 PM
14

On the plus side, you can enjoy that "genetic legacy" everyone is so eager to tell me about.
/r/MGTOW15/05/16 07:59 PM
11

It's a combination of physical and psychological traits. On the physical side, there are obvious things like height and muscularity that naturally entail female sexual interest. On the psychological side, there's the dark triad of personality traits (Machiavellianism / psychopathy / narcissism), low inhibition and impulse control (which allows Chads to engage in "risky" actions like raising their voice in public, dancing, and in general acting without being too self-conscious), low social anxiet…
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 04:00 AM
48

There's nothing wrong with being an engineer, or even being unattractive for that matter. The biological reality is that not every man can be Chad, and different men have different strengths. The problem with the men in this comic is willful ignorance, low self-esteem, and a delusional self-perception. They've invested themselves completely in the role of provider / family man, and are willing to accept any scraps from Chad's table as long as they can live out their little fantasy. If they rejec…
/r/MGTOW13/05/16 03:05 AM
2

High-end escorts targeting upper class clients can easily make $1,000 a day.
/r/MGTOW09/05/16 10:55 PM
1

This subreddit intersects naturally with a lot of anti-feminist / alt right / culture wars topics. I don't like it either, but that's the way it is.
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 09:17 PM
3

She gets to speak at the UN again about women being banned and harassed in online spaces.
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 02:47 AM
1

I just joined the police service in my city in Canada What kind of background did it take to get in?
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 12:24 AM
4

Big Daddy Government ended all technical support and upgrades for Marriage 1.0 back when Reagan signed the no-fault divorce law. Do you even Colttaine, bro? The divorce rates were rising long before Ronnie Raygun signed that law. Women were already divorcing their husbands en masse, and there was tremendous political pressure from below for no-fault divorce. The government responded by capitulating to their demands. That's the real chain of causality. Are we incapable of admitting that it was wo…
/r/MGTOW07/05/16 12:11 AM
5

The author seems to be under the impression that the cost of divorce only includes the cost of filing for divorce. Good luck with that.
/r/MGTOW03/05/16 11:22 PM
-1

--> /r/tradcon
/r/MGTOW02/05/16 10:09 PM
20

Because she has a right to free speech?
/r/MGTOW30/04/16 12:15 AM
5

"Foreign women are better" fallacy...
/r/MGTOW29/04/16 10:49 PM
3

Are the women themselves screened for mental illness?
/r/MGTOW18/04/16 08:01 PM
22

You misogynistic shitlord! Think of all those female soldiers that fought side-by-side with the men in the trenches that you've just triggered. I'm signing you up for a Diversity Counseling Session to sensitize you to the plight of womyn in this patriarchal, oppressive, transphobic, xenophobic, Nazi, islamophobic society.
/r/MGTOW17/04/16 09:49 PM
1

I can't criticize an abusive, misandric system unless I myself have been subjected to that system? The expectation of "service" within the male gender role in order to have any meaningful opinion at all is exactly the problem. The way that you elevate and speak highly of "servicemen" speaks volumes.
/r/MGTOW17/04/16 05:24 PM
2

And what do you think is the cause of single motherhood?
/r/MGTOW16/04/16 07:24 PM
24

I see this popping up here and there. Older generations bemoan the time when men were disposable tools with lives worth 0 that could be simply sent off to die in muddy trenches and were "expected" to do it. Everyone here knows men of all social classes except for the highest elite have suffered one of the greatest and the least politically correct or discussed historical abuses by virtue of our lives being of no value except our utilitarian value to society (and by extension women of our social …
/r/MGTOW15/04/16 11:55 PM
8

We should criminalize the purchasing of these services, but not the selling of them.
/r/MGTOW13/04/16 05:14 AM
12

This almost reads like a parody of an anti-MGTOW piece coming from a tradcon. The choice of language to describe MGTOW is almost flattering and would drive the audience to agree with it as opposed to what the author's intention is.
/r/MGTOW12/04/16 08:41 PM
2

not PC master race
/r/MGTOW12/04/16 07:27 PM
3

I was lamenting the fact that this subreddit is turning into yet another status masturbation contest with men calling each other losers for not living up to XYZ standard. Even men who call themselves MGTOW and post on MGTOW forums can't help but see each other as success objects, just as women are seen as sexual objects. This is par for the course in the real world, but I was expecting men on a subreddit like this to have some measure of self-awareness for what drives this type of dominance hier…
/r/MGTOW12/04/16 03:32 AM
6

If you think these are MEN you are sadly mistaken. These are failed children The state of MGTOW in 2016
/r/MGTOW11/04/16 11:08 PM
3

Sure, but the OP might not want his face plastered all over the Internet.
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 11:24 PM
5

I have nothing against any hobby that a man might choose to immerse himself in, but I fear that this is going to end up being posted on shitredditsays or some other anti-MGTOW site. Men face an enormous amount of social stigma for any hobby that doesn't fit the narrow definition of success tied to our gender role (athleticism, resource provision, etc.)
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 07:02 PM
3

So does Canada, as of 2014.
/r/MGTOW10/04/16 03:46 PM
3

Are you sure you're replying to the right person?
/r/MGTOW09/04/16 12:01 AM
17

The new statute would give judges a formula to use in deciding alimony payments in Florida and, more controversially, would specify a premise that a minor child should spend about equal amounts of time with each parent. I guess actual equality is "problematic".
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 11:56 PM
8

Totally not a treat for fat nerdy STEM women to feel better about themselves. This isn't a significant demographic, in my experience. Not enough to make back the hundred-million dollar investment that these movies represent by marketing it to them. I think these movies are made for the average sociology major womyn that recently hopped onto the "nerdy hobbies" bandwagon once they exploded into the mainstream.
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 11:24 PM
2

The force of gravity is oppressive!! Weight is just a number!! HEALTH AT EVERY SIZE!!!!
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 11:22 PM
1

It's the same in Canada, right? Unfortunately, yes.
/r/MGTOW08/04/16 11:15 PM
3

Feminism Leftism is cancer.
/r/MGTOW07/04/16 08:31 PM
12

Flip the races and imagine the media describing this tweet as "controversial".
/r/MGTOW07/04/16 01:03 PM
3

Look at those privileged white male shitlords taking a vacation on that beach, while the womyn are working in the factories.
/r/MGTOW07/04/16 01:06 AM
2

^ The middle class, shafting the working class since 1970.
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 08:34 PM
3

The state of MGTOW in 2016
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 08:29 PM
15

2 kids and 1 late term abortion?
/r/MGTOW05/04/16 08:22 PM
1

This subreddit has officially become "Guys posting topless photos of themselves with their motorcycles" /s
/r/MGTOW03/04/16 03:55 PM
8

Feminists consider drunk sex to be rape. The comic parodies their craziness by equating any action performed while drunk (e.g. buying food) with rape.
/r/MGTOW30/03/16 10:15 PM
11

Male disposability.
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 08:11 PM
2

Hah. Unfortunately, I'm not the one who made this. I got it from an old MGTOW forum a few years ago. But if you'd like to share your insights on the Nash equilibrium of relationships, that sounds like it might belong here.
/r/MGTOW28/03/16 04:14 AM
4

Cool story bro.
/r/MGTOW27/03/16 08:24 PM
1

Leykis is still pushing the foreign women narrative?
/r/MGTOW27/03/16 04:09 PM
2

/r/forwardsfromgrandma
/r/MGTOW26/03/16 01:40 PM
2

Haven't you got the memo? Caring about birth rates and cultural integrity is racist.
/r/MGTOW25/03/16 07:54 PM
28

There has to be more to MGTOW than crass materialism and conspicuous consumption. I think MGTOW is fundamentally a quest for knowledge and insight into human nature, as well as a spiritual journey to understand our purpose in the world independent of societal and cultural expectations. This implies a certain asceticism.
/r/MGTOW25/03/16 01:50 AM
5

No consequences for the accuser.
/r/MGTOW24/03/16 11:17 PM
2

If a country needs to pass through radical feminism and multiculturalism to finally legislate in favor of men's rights, I think I'll oppose it in the future. It's simply not worth what Sweden has become.
/r/MGTOW24/03/16 12:31 AM
2

Society hates our freedom. They hate us for our freedom!
/r/MGTOW23/03/16 03:37 PM
17

Riley's filing cites irreconcilable differences and makes no mention of a prenuptial agreement. She is seeking spousal support from Musk. That's how it is folks. Pay to play.
/r/MGTOW22/03/16 06:29 AM
27

The "chav degeneracy" is in large part caused by the deindustrialization of Britain that started in the 60's and picked up pace during the Thacher administration. A similar thing happened across all Western countries, but the common trend is that when the working classes are deprived of stable jobs that pay living wages, they turn to welfare, crime, and drugs. And can you really blame them? The only alternative is to work an undignified service job with peon wages and no security, if you're luck…
/r/MGTOW22/03/16 06:17 AM
8

Maybe society will normalize, and this subreddit will be able to close its doors as we each become productive, happy, RESPECTED, family men. A slave isn't any less of a slave if he's respected for his work.
/r/MGTOW21/03/16 04:23 PM
4

The extent to which TRP is simply an extension of PUA is underappreciated. In many ways it's simply a marketing re-branding of it after huckster clowns like David DeAngelo and Neil Strauss became unpopular. Today most "red pillers" are anti-feminist white nationalists, because that's what appeals to the 15-30 year old edgy male internet-browsing demographic, and that's how they get clicks on their blog posts and videos.
/r/MGTOW20/03/16 07:13 PM
7

A lot of entrepreneurial "high betas" are spoiled by their relative success in the sexual marketplace. They're attractive enough to snag a few girlfriends, but not attractive enough to learn the mercenary nature of women through extensive experience. They also never have the chance to learn it by being at the bottom of the sexual marketplace. Since they tend to be hard workers and quite intelligent, they accumulate a lot of resources, and all of that is stolen from them when they get blindsided …
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 11:09 PM
8

I never understood why MGTOWs feel the need to disparage fat women. You realize this is the male equivalent of calling someone a virgin neckbeard? What does it matter to a MGTOW that some woman has a weight problem? My stance is that overweight women can eat themselves to death as long as they (along with all other women) leave me alone.
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 11:02 PM
2

Most women aren't into nerdy stuff because they're not willing to take the hit to their social status. This might have been true 10 or 20 years ago, but nerd culture (at least the watered down version) is mainstream now. Comics, video games, tabletop RPGs, collectible card games, etc. don't carry nearly the same stigma they did a few decades ago, and women are flooding into these spaces now because they can increase their social status. Of course, as soon as they enter (or force themselves in), …
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 10:47 PM
2

being a nerd has no attractive effect on any women, even the ones who claim to be nerds themselves. If they like you, it's probably not the nerdiness. This is the correct answer to the OP's question. Women find topics interesting, but that doesn't mean you become more attractive to women just because you have knowledge of those topics. Men can bond over common interests irrespective of their SMV in a way that a man and a woman never can. You only have to look at how a guy's face lights up when y…
/r/MGTOW17/03/16 10:39 PM
8

^ anger stage
/r/MGTOW14/03/16 10:47 PM
3

I ended up getting laid tonight won't be dating this one, she already has a guy. never get married men, these hoes ain't faithful You're contributing to the problem.
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 07:40 PM
6

There's an entire school of thought within crypto-traditionalism that claims "western" women are the problem because they've been "corrupted" by feminism (bonus points for complaining about "third wave" feminism). If we want the "good ol' days" back, supposedly all we have to do is take a "submissive, traditional" non-western bride (Eastern Europe, the Philippines and East Asia are favorite destinations), and voila: feminism defeated. I think examples like this demonstrate that female nature is …
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 07:22 PM
9

Soon enough Canada will get a suitable populist leader taking over, especially as the economy gets worse and the state can no longer support Diversity & Equality(TM).
/r/MGTOW11/03/16 10:06 PM
3

Reverse the genders.
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 08:53 PM
1

It's amusing how many mental gymnastics the prestitutes have to perform to avoid seeing the obvious...
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 08:52 PM
9

Google has gone full cultural marxist lately. They seem committed to shitting on men even when their core technology is built entirely by them. Hopefully, this will drive their smartest programmers and engineers away and allow them to get snapped up by a less retarded competitor while Google crashes and burns.
/r/MGTOW09/03/16 06:03 AM
1

Here: https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/
/r/MGTOW08/03/16 01:00 AM
2

Firearms have a >90% success rate compared to other methods. I don't see how that isn't straight forward enough.
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 11:54 PM
2

This topic comes up very often in this sub and it always seems to attract suicidal suggestions. Now, if you want to end your life then that's your call and there's nothing I can do about it, but it's a very sad and distasteful way to leave. Is rotting away from disease and gradually losing control of your bodily and mental functions any more dignified, though? Why is choosing your own time of death while you still have the ability to do so considered "sad"?
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 11:51 PM
1

If you ignore attractiveness and treat people solely based on their personality, you're simply replacing one biologically determined trait with another (by "biologically determined", I mean that both genetic and environmental influences are important). You mentioned that physical attractiveness is a trait that evolved in our ancestral environment, but so did our mental and emotional landscape and thus our personality, if you take evopsych seriously. "Kindness" isn't just some arbitrary trait, it…
/r/MGTOW07/03/16 06:19 PM
7

Most of these crazy ideologues will be going away in the near future as the backlash against the far left reaches the mainstream.
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 03:24 PM
1

Don't link directly to Facebook.
/r/MGTOW06/03/16 06:03 AM
1

Please archive these posts. Don't give the daily mail any clicks.
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 12:24 AM
2

It's not sexism because sexism is privilege plus power, you misogynistic shitlord!!!
/r/MGTOW04/03/16 12:17 AM
1

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cisgender#
/r/MGTOW01/03/16 05:27 PM
19

Chad And here's the type of Chad that Watson likes to get railed by. Meanwhile she wants to take away more sexual options from men who aren't high status athletes and/or don't meet hypergamous requirements. You can bet that Chad Thudercock's sexual buffet won't be affected by this new "feminist porn".
/r/MGTOW29/02/16 07:36 AM
5

A lot of comedians have figured out that tapping into the frustrations of the post-feminist male demographic can be lucrative. It's the same with Burr, Stanhope, and all the other comedians that get pinned with the MGTOW label. They're entertainers, and we shouldn't be surprised when they don't live up to their act.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 08:01 PM
3

Believe what you will. It's your money.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 07:37 AM
3

Buying Bitcoin right now is a serious mistake. Investors in the scene are all currently panicked and most of the news right now has been negative. I know deep down you probably think that you'll get rich from buying this - but this isn't 2012 - the gravy train has come and gone, and what remains is mostly a dying currency with antiquated technology.
/r/MGTOW28/02/16 05:50 AM
1

This isn't the best place to make what amounts to a "tfw no gf" thread. If you're looking for ways to change your situation, /r/TheRedPill or maybe 4chan's /r9k/ board might be more useful to you than /r/MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW27/02/16 06:04 PM
2

Sounds like you're a closet tradcon or a labor strike MGTOW. If you want a submissive Asian wife, /r/TheRedPill might be able to help you. But there's probably no solution for you unless you move to the Philippines or some other country where divorce is illegal.
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 11:17 PM
4

So between their consumer capitalist and feminist ideas, and their biological inherent mandates, they are screwed. The marketplace is barren, and no man meets their needs. This is an important observation. The "no good men" and "man shortage" articles that appear every now and then in the mainstream media aren't actually about a shortage of men, since there are plenty of average men around that would make perfectly adequate husbands etc., but a shortage of men who meet women's hypergamous standa…
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 10:52 PM
2

All the more astonishing when you consider that he wrote before the theory of evolution was understood. Some of his observations sound like they could have been lifted from Origin of the Species.
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 10:42 PM
3

The 3 P's of male disposability.
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 01:00 AM
1

There are a ton of closet tradcons and white nationalists on this subreddit who are not allies of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 12:58 AM
11

Women never had the intention to "destroy society". People in the real world don't have cartoon villain motivations. What happened was that in the last 200 years, new technology was introduced, and the industrial revolution made labor easier, leading to a change in gender dynamics that has yet to play out to this day. We're witnessing female nature expressing itself in a novel environment, and the aggregate effect of millions of women making everyday decisions led to the clusterfuck we have toda…
/r/MGTOW25/02/16 12:49 AM
6

It’s very telling to listen to Cruz call it “immoral” to “forcibly conscript” “our daughters” to make them fight against their will, notice that the emphasis isnt on whether or not it is a good idea, or whether or not females can meet the rigorous physical demands of war, but instead it is framed as a moral issue, that being that it is a fundamentally unjust act to compel women to fight against their will by government decree, and yet if this pudgy weird looking man ever got hold of the presiden…
/r/MGTOW20/02/16 05:30 PM
0

The concept of alpha is derived from primate status hierarchies. I think it can still be meaningfully applied even if, in practice, the vast majority of men will have someone "more alpha" than them. There's still a minority of men that enjoys the overwhelming amount of mating opportunities and social status.
/r/MGTOW20/02/16 12:15 AM
3

If a man has willfully exited the sexual marketplace, not out of true forced loneliness (omega) then he would be classified as a zeta. If a TFL guy "loses hope" and makes peace with his condition, leaving the sexual marketplace to pursue other interests, I'd say he becomes a zeta. But the acceptance has to be sincere. He can't go back to his old self even if a woman suddenly shows interest in him.
/r/MGTOW20/02/16 12:09 AM
1

Careful not to wake up missing a kidney in Thailand...
/r/MGTOW19/02/16 05:04 PM
12

This looks like it was made by an 8chan kid, pining for the sunny utopia of 1998 (lol).
/r/MGTOW19/02/16 05:02 PM
6

"Open marriage" is a euphemism for polygamy. The West has had serial monogamy (de-facto polygamy) since at least the 1960's, and this is another step in the direction of harems for alpha males (we may never get there completely, but that's the tendency). What's interesting is that monogamy arises in societies where economic and political power is distributed equally among males, while polygamy tends to exist in deeply unequal societies. As wealth inequality increases, it shouldn't be surprising …
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 09:42 PM
-1

So you do think whites cant have their own place, good to know. Your little jab here is a perfect example of why people get sick of white nationalists in the manosphere. They frame any disagreement with them as a political one that amounts to backing their supposed enemies, thus instigating yet another trite political argument. This is because white nationalists put their ideology before anything else, including MGTOW. What are you even doing on a MGTOW forum? There are dozens of other online ve…
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 09:28 PM
-8

Are white nations not "allowed" to exist? Why don't you head over to Stormfront or 8chan if you want to promote white nationalism? Does it piss you off that MGTOW is multi-racial? Do you lose sleep over the fact that some men don't care about protecting the precious white women that you worship, and don't see themselves as participating in some kind of race war?
/r/MGTOW18/02/16 05:58 AM
-7

It started out well, but quickly degenerated into ethnocentrism / white nationalism.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 10:32 PM
4

Cool reply bro. Have you looked at the data on single motherhood, birth rates, criminal behavior and divorce rates and compared them? The trends started to shift in the 40's and 50's, before the feminist boogeyman was a thing, and before any of the major feminist books were published.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 09:52 PM
2

Feminism has significantly altered "the environment" in the social, legal, political aspects. Not true. The social, legal and political changes preceded feminism. Feminism was an ideological rationalization of those changes. This isn't what the manosphere likes to believe, but the evidence bears it out. Take a look at Coltaine's video, it's one of the best MGTOW productions in years.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 07:15 PM
3

Traditionalists are panicking en masse, as well as complaining quite vocally about the absence of "real men" who want to settle down. There is absolutely a man shortage now, and of course, being the white knights that they are, these tradcons will be the modern day version of a press gang and attempt to persuade or bully men back in line. Their attempt to suggest that being in a relationship, providing for a family and manning up are fun activities are absolutely pathetic.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 04:17 PM
1

Besides what you see in the sidebar: The Moral Animal - Robert Wright Sociobiology - E.O. Wilson
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 04:14 PM
2

Mostly bullshit. Feminism isn't the prime mover here. It's a reaction to changes in the environment (contraception, mechanization). Female nature is always as it has been.
/r/MGTOW17/02/16 04:10 PM
8

Society has already caused this No, women caused it. What we're seeing is a manifestation of female nature in a novel environment (widely available contraceptives, easy labor / mechanization). When the environment and the technology changed, women are the ones who mass-divorced their husbands, became single mothers, and ushered in an era of promiscuity. Individual women pursuing their self-interest given a novel set of circumstances, at the aggregate level, gave us the society we have today. It'…
/r/MGTOW16/02/16 08:03 AM
3

MGTOW isn't equivalent to TRP.
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 06:51 AM
3

Ironically, you seem to be treating MGTOW like that hotel room; a temporary rest area to enjoy and brag about until the next woman comes along and taps into your protector/provider instincts.
/r/MGTOW15/02/16 04:52 AM
2

Well, of course they're trying to sell a story, but the point is that they're trying to paint her in the best light possible. Female + high status profession + victim complex = damage control.
/r/MGTOW08/02/16 01:31 AM
40

Notice how the media loves to emphasize that she's a "Doctor", as if that magically absolves her of her shitty behavior.
/r/MGTOW07/02/16 06:06 PM
5

I can get behind this. Men need to stop asserting their disposability by sacrificing themselves for women.
/r/MGTOW06/02/16 11:15 PM
2

Canada recently adopted the Swedish model of prostitution, making it illegal for men to purchase sexual services but legal for women to provide them.
/r/MGTOW06/02/16 11:04 PM
10

Disgusting behavior. A prime example of female entitlement.
/r/MGTOW06/02/16 01:11 AM
0

Hello /r/atheism.
/r/MGTOW05/02/16 07:10 PM
-4

The "feminism ruined the traditional family" narrative again? Have I wandered into /r/tradcon?
/r/MGTOW05/02/16 07:08 PM
1

30 seconds after posting this, I'm banned from ask women. And I really was just asking an honest question, no agenda, just seeking information. Most SJW / lefty subreddits ban on post history alone.
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 03:07 AM
11

This is exactly what the author of Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Tech was warning against in his article, Stop Trying To Be More Feminist Than Feminists. White nationalists who automatically took the rape claims against migrants at face-value were actually being more gynocentric than the feminists that they claim to oppose.
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 03:05 AM
2

Jews want to fatten Americans up For fucks sake. Why don't you crawl back to /pol/ or some other shithole?
/r/MGTOW01/02/16 03:02 AM
2

You're killing independent George!
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 06:14 PM
6

Burr is an entertainer. If some people consider him a MGTOW based on his act, that's up to them. However, they shouldn't be surprised when his real life fails to match up with the character of "Bill Burr" that they see on stage.
/r/MGTOW30/01/16 05:17 PM
5

Burr married his longtime girlfriend, producer and screenwriter Nia Renee Hill, in 2013.
/r/MGTOW29/01/16 06:37 PM
13

Even today, women didn’t demand a place at the video game table, alongside us geeky, nerdy losers, until we’d already grown it using dedication and hard work, into a billion dollar industry. Hell, growing up through the 90’s, women and girls actively derided me for such hobbies. Then, once it starts to finally gain some mainstream traction and social acceptability, suddenly, out of nowhere, you have all of these no-talent assclown indie wannabe developers like Zoe Quinn who literally fucked her …
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 04:35 PM
1

Contrary to what Hillary Clinton may want you to believe, men have always been the primary victims of war. The entire enterprise of war can summed up like this: men from one country are sent to kill or be killed by the men of another country. It is difficult to come up with anything that is more anti-male than war.
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 02:33 AM
18

Exactly. Leave the outrage for tradcons and nationalists. They can march in the front rank and die for "their" women. This doesn't concern MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW27/01/16 01:24 AM
24

women don't let me forget that average = SHORT This is a great observation. Colttaine gathered some data in the beginning of his video Biology Culture Ideology on how females of mammalian species view the average male as intrinsically below average due to hypergamy.
/r/MGTOW25/01/16 07:30 PM
17

Putting aside the fact that Clarey is a self-important douchebag, this question is rooted in the traditionalist premise that men are meat to be thrown into the grinder as long as society provides them with a Pavlonian reward for their trouble. Clarey's position here is that of the "labor strike MGTOW", or men (primarily of traditionalist bent) using the MGTOW brand as a temporary rest area until the right carrot is dangled in front of them again, at which point they can go back to being good pro…
/r/MGTOW24/01/16 05:24 PM
15

Is this the Brave New World of web design, where pages are bloated with wasteful, distracting Javascript and unusable without it?
/r/MGTOW23/01/16 11:05 PM
9

Where are they buying those ridiculous problem glasses? Is there a booming accessories market catering to crazy ideologues?
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 08:22 PM
5

Please don't link directly to Facebook.
/r/MGTOW22/01/16 05:54 PM
9

"Paragraphs aren't all they're cracked up to be."
/r/MGTOW21/01/16 10:56 PM
9

Be careful with Stefan Molyneux. He occasionally has some interesting observations to make, but he runs his Freedomainradio operation like a cult, and he participated in some shady activities in the past. Here's a good introduction to Molyneux: http://www.fdrliberated.com/brief-introduction-freedomain-radio/
/r/MGTOW21/01/16 06:02 PM
1

Making fun of, or even crafting serious exposés on individuals like Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, and Jonathan Butler, is going to do absolutely fucking nothing to change the ubiquitous cultural environment in which these crazed ideologues flourish. Trying to change the ideological software is not going to change our cultural operating system. That would require the biological hardware upgrade to be physically uninstalled and put back into the birth control bottle, and that just isn’t going to ha…
/r/MGTOW21/01/16 12:15 AM
4

But... but... white privilege! Patriarchy! Oppression!
/r/MGTOW20/01/16 10:30 PM
1

Here's an unofficial survey from another MGTOW forum: https://tarnishedsophia.wordpress.com/2014/08/02/mgtow-survey-results-part-1-demographics/ 16 are Caucasian (73%) The sample size is small, but the assumption that ~75% of MGTOW are white is pretty reasonable given what we know about the demographics of the internet in general, and manosphere communities in particular.
/r/MGTOW20/01/16 06:07 PM
6

It's undeniable that there's also a racial component involved here. Most MGTOW are white, and they intrinsically see Middle Eastern and African immigrants as a manifestation of the Other attempting to take Our WomenTM . Since human males are tribalistic, any accusations against Them are accepted without critical thought, whereas accusations against our own tribe are doubted and criticized. So there's a qualitative difference in the male mind between rape accusations against Us and rape accusatio…
/r/MGTOW19/01/16 07:42 PM
1

Diablo 2's cinematics have aged remarkably well.
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 10:45 PM
3

Is this what you have in mind?
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 06:13 PM
4

A man’s race or his politics is no excuse to automatically believe a rape accusation like a feminist. What a lot of so called anti-feminists are doing is trying to be more feminist than actual feminists. It’s a bad idea for many reasons, and it just strengthens the false rape industry.
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 06:04 PM
8

Modern feminism is petty victim-hood and is poisoning women and society Why is it my duty to care about the frauen und vaderland? Why do you portray feminism as some malicious external agent that somehow "poisoned" women? Is it that much of a stretch to imagine that women chose feminism, and knew exactly what they were doing? Just wanted to get some thoughts out. I will say that I have known some decent women in my life, most of which are European or East European. The difference is night and da…
/r/MGTOW17/01/16 02:18 AM
8

This is really a smokescreen for women's desire to exercise total sexual power over men with no constraints or responsibility.
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 09:03 PM
5

This shows to what extent ideological feminism is simply an extension of female nature (like traditionalism), and has no concern for either logic or equal rights...
/r/MGTOW16/01/16 09:00 PM
1

Next up Mr. T singlehandedly takes out ISIS. You mean Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel?
/r/MGTOW15/01/16 05:32 AM
2

Would be interesting to see the whole conversation. Or is that it?
/r/MGTOW15/01/16 05:26 AM
10

What we're seeing here is an example of inherent gynocentrism, or as Stardusk would call it "small f" feminism. This commenter didn't need to rely on feminist theory to make a sophisticated argument for why women shouldn't work dangerous jobs. This attitude that men are disposable utilities, and women are more valuable by virtue of being women (golden uterus) predates ideological feminism, and is actually rooted in our evolutionary past. I was also reminded of this Colttaine quote: it’s rather t…
/r/MGTOW13/01/16 04:24 PM
6

Clarey is a tradcon libertarian type. Last year he was involved in doxxing Stardusk and barbarossa.
/r/MGTOW12/01/16 10:21 PM
3

This is the right attitude to have in the Internet culture war. Let other people invest their mental energy into the latest outrage. It will soon be forgotten and they'll move on to the next one.
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 10:02 PM
1

But does increased paternal involvement cause higher IQ, or are fathers of high IQ children more likely to be involved in their lives in the first place?
/r/MGTOW11/01/16 07:24 PM
3

Colttaine is looking for the ultimate causes that drive human behavior. He's a biological determinist who thinks our behavior is ultimately rooted in biology. In the video, he argues that biological changes in human societies precede cultural changes, which precede ideological changes. Biology refers to our hard-wiring at the individual level, culture is the collective manifestation and expression of our innate biological instincts in a specific environment, and ideology is a particular belief s…
/r/MGTOW10/01/16 06:38 PM
3

An important video from Colttaine that tears down some of the cherished myths of the manosphere and alt right using hard data, including the idea that feminism is somehow the cause of our social ills, that a cabal of cultural Marxists are responsible for feminism and big government, and more. Required watching, along with his Unified Theory of the Human Condition.
/r/MGTOW10/01/16 06:49 AM
4

I don't see how you can reconcile white nationalism (or any nationalism for that matter) with a philosophy of male sovereignty. Nationalists practically worship women and would like nothing better than to conscript men to die in the trenches for them, because it's our "duty" to the tribe / fatherland / whatever. Just look at the shaming language in the comments section of that video and ask yourself if this is the kind of people you want to be identified with: MGTOW will end up MMFEAEIMB (Men Ma…
/r/MGTOW09/01/16 08:21 PM
1

VR is going to be priced beyond what most consumers can afford for at least a couple of years.
/r/MGTOW09/01/16 07:09 AM
1

I don't think "rape fantasies" are about the act of rape itself, but about the man doing the raping. I'm pretty sure most women would be repulsed at being raped by a low-status man, since being inseminated by undesirable genes would undermine their genetic legacy. They're much more ambivalent about high status men, however. There's a reason the male character in female erotica is a tall, high-status alpha male.
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 09:33 PM
25

Some men are going their own way because the traditional male role in society is no longer beneficial. In the past we got some admiration and respect for being a hero and a breadwinner. Now we only get to pay child support, our children are taken away from us and we hear all the male bashing in the media. This reason for going MGTOW is part of the problem, not the solution. It implies that if these supposed grievances were addressed at some point in the future, i.e. if the traditional male role …
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 09:21 PM
1

Relevant barbarossa article.
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 03:55 AM
1

Some of them do.
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 01:02 AM
4

In my experience, the main perpetrators of "virgin shaming", at least in the online sphere, are men themselves. It's the men who have internalized female sexual preference and create status hierarchies based on their desirability to women. The gist of the "neckbeard fedora" meme is that certain men are so low in the dominance hierarchy that any opinion they might have is contemptible and can be rejected out of hand. I've noticed that even some MGTOW are eager to prove their value in the eyes of …
/r/MGTOW05/01/16 12:59 AM
1

it would have to be women to carry out the killing. I wouldn't be so sure about that. Historically men have been more than happy to kill one another for the sake of women.
/r/MGTOW03/01/16 09:41 PM
1

Next time: A recent encounter with paragraphs.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 02:08 AM
1

Away you go then.
/r/MGTOW31/12/15 02:07 AM
2

Not sure if trolling, but are you aware that Lucas had nothing to do with the new movie?
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 07:10 PM
2

"MGTOW have recently been criticized for being sexist pigs as well as racist misogynists.[1]" [1] My Women's Studies professor
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 07:00 PM
3

Jones literally believes that men are meant to die for women, and that women were "tricked" into accepting feminism by the Rothschilds / Illuminati / Reptilians, rather than it being an outgrowth of human nature. No man deserves to be divorce-raped, but the universe has a twisted sense of humor.
/r/MGTOW26/12/15 06:58 PM
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