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Metaphysical children.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/20 02:59 AM
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If you get fixated on "having a gf" it's really easy to put that ideal on a pedestal and start mapping that ideal onto people you meet that you'd otherwise be uninterested. Even if you do want a gf it's important in the long run that the individual be someone you actually want as a gf and not just a surrogate for your fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:54 PM
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Anecdotally, I've noticed that it becomes a lot easier to connect with women when I have interesting stuff going on in my life that... isn't chasing women. It's easier for it to come across as facile blue pill wisdom, but I think it's a lot easier to bring something to the table (and thus be perceived as attractive) when you feel good about where you are in life. Also comes with the benefit of not coming across as desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 09:50 PM
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I agree that they aren't good mechanisms, especially because people are aware they're used that way. I'm a dude and prefer to split the first couple bills (paying for company is icky), but occasionally pay if I like the person and get the vibe they'll be offended if I don't.. but even then that's me playing the game and has no impact on my commitment to them. I think people generally read too much into early date interactions. If both of us want to fuck on date #1 then that should be read as... …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 05:19 PM
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Both could be interpreted as signals for how into you/committed the other person is. Think it really just comes down to if you perceive money and sex as being fundamentally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/19 04:42 PM
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That goes goes both ways, though. The woman could find another man who's actually interested in having a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 07:19 PM
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I have written an essay on teaching pedagogy about how treating every student the same way is not necessarily fair to the marginalized and you have to take into account a student's "positionality." I get why that feels feminist-y, but at the same time isn't that super individualist? Treating all kids in a class the same way generalizes them and doesn't allow each to reach their maximum potential because they likely have differing educational needs and such. Granted I know that's not feasible wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/17 10:19 PM
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Check out my response to another user in this same thread for the long version, but a lot of the stuff you see guys doing has more to do with literally not knowing you than "just wanting you for sex." I agree that dick pics and low effort messages are dumb. re:whether or not it's validation, I had this to say I feel like we should still treat it as validation even if one has become desensitized to it. It might not do much for you, but it's still someone reinforcing an idea you may/may not have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 10:34 PM
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until I saw some of my male friends basically just swipe right for every woman, barely even glancing at the photos. I've been guilty of this, but it was only after I swiped exclusively on people that I was really attracted to and got no matches. It was stupidly time consuming for something that amounted to no interactions. The logic is/was that if women are ultimately the ones to decide whether or not a match is going to be made*, I may as well just approve everyone and see what I get back. Note…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 07:48 PM
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I'd counter with the fact that the exact same thing happens on dating sites where pictures/personal info do exist. A couple years ago I helped a female friend setup an OKCupid account and she had like 10 messages before we'd even finished filling in her info (so basically just a picture and a few sparse details about her on the page). Unless we're talking exclusively about Craigslist, I think there's an argument to be made that these ads can be seeking validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/17 04:40 PM
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I have no reason to lie; telling people on the internet I have a big dick doesn't do anything for me IRL. Regardless, just because you've seen some camgirl fit a 12 inch dildo inside her doesn't mean that that's something most women can or want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 08:58 AM
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Somehow I'm not convinced that you've ever talked to a woman about size, let alone had sex if you think this is true. I've had people turn me down in the moment because it wouldn't fit comfortably.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 03:45 AM
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Didn't say anything about intelligence, but Martin Fieder, one of the study's research team leaders, added that because of genetic mutation, children born to younger fathers can be as much as 10 percent more attractive than children who have older fathers. Given the choice between being born to a stable, well-off household and being 10% more attractive it's hard to justify ever choosing the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:35 AM
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older men produce children with more developmental disabilities, less intelligence, and higher ugliness than younger men Have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 05:08 AM
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Not OC, but I also don't really care about what my partner's n is. I'd care if she were a sex worker, though. Not because of the sex per se (tbh we all sell ourselves in some way for money), but because of the danger, illegality, and likely lack of financial stability that comes with it. If she were a former sex worker I wouldn't care as long as she were clean and had her shit together in the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/16 01:25 AM
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They aren't on the same spectrum; their means are completely different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 12:49 AM
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Just replace all of TRP with "imagine girls pooping."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 09:07 PM
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It's sexist, not misogynistic. Misogyny is hating women, not having bigoted views of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/15 08:26 PM
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I'm not particularly good looking or rich, and especially wasn't the former when I didn't give a fuck about my appearance/how well I was doing in life. You don't have to be a Chad to be happy and/or get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 09:48 PM
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As someone who's both suffered with mental health issues to the point of being a hermit and gone out and hooked up with people just because I wanted to see if I could, you're poorly mistaken. It's hard, but nothing changes until you start working for it. To use an analogy, imagine you're at the bottom of a bit. You can see a tiny glimmer of light at the top, but it looks hopelessly far away. You decide to start climbing anyway because failing is better than resigning yourself to oblivion. As you…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/15 01:38 PM
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I love your flair :o
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/15 02:39 PM
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There's a general "about me" section you can use to write a short blurb about yourself. Grew up with a single mom who did some activism and, while there are several major tenants of third wave feminism I disagree with, I can respect that there are facets of our cultural that disadvantage women. Also had a sentence that said I'd call them out on bullshit precisely because I know as much as I do about the movement. As for questionnaires, they do some gender questions at you, but they're pretty bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 10:30 AM
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Personal anecdote, but when I used OKC a fair number of women would contact me/bring up in their replies how much they valued my nuanced view of gender issues. I didn't explicitly call myself a feminist, though. Definitely helped in terms of the local demographic, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/15 09:41 AM
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Is there a qualitative difference for you between 30 and 50?
/r/RedPillWomen30/06/15 02:59 AM
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Woosh It's only 11 and I probably need to take a break. Sorry for the confusion @_@
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:23 PM
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I quoted my own text to which you replied that that's exactly what emotional intelligence is and then your own statement that seemed to contradict the former. It's cool if the latter is your position; it just seemed inconsistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:16 PM
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My point was more so that Unfortunately having high emotional intelligence does not mean that women are aware of a set of issues that they never face and is rarely addressed in media. seems to directly conflict with my point all along has been that men and women have a hard time empathising with what they haven't personally lived through Or rather that increased emotional intelligence is kinda irrelevant if you're agreeing that women have just a hard time knowing about and empathizing with thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 03:02 PM
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Funny, that's what emotional empathy means and my point all along has been that men and women have a hard time empathising with what they haven't personally lived through Don't quite match up. Women may (broadly speaking) more readily empathize with issues they don't face, but that in no way grants them knowledge of those issues. In the same way that most teenage girls aren't aware of genocides in Africa, my sister who is constantly catcalled couldn't understand why I'd complain about never bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 02:37 PM
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women tend to have higher emotional intelligence, so they don't need to be told all the fucking time to try and emphasise. Unfortunately having high emotional intelligence does not mean that women are aware of a set of issues that they never face and is rarely addressed in media.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 02:21 PM
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You pretty much perfectly stated my thoughts on this. Having sex is cool/fun/feels good, but it's strange to me how strongly some people entwine "having sex" with their sense of self-worth. I used to occasionally browse TRP when I got out of a LTR and was interested in having sex, but it was never about self-validation. TRP's obsession with sex as a measure of self-worth is akin to NoFap's obsession with (not) masturbating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/15 02:18 PM
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Most girls are hesitant about threesomes because they're either the unicorn (and thus feel "used") or because they feel uncomfortable involving another person in their sex life with their SO (anxiety, insecurity, making them question their previous feelings, etc); given the "right" context and a partner whose chill with it, you'd be surprised how many go for it. Granted American culture is pretty sex-negative/tells women to be ashamed about this kinda thing, so there are probably fewer women her…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 10:31 PM
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Eh, we don't know shit about her total number of partners given that she described these experiences as being with her ex and her ex's friend; it's possible that she has had < 10 partners. Particularly given that she started seeing her husband when she was 26, this doesn't really go well with the "fuck everyone then pick a "safe" guy after you start panicking narrative that people are after.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/15 10:23 PM
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GOOD THING THEY AREN'T WISHES, THOUGH
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:02 AM
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I dream about a lot of depressing shit (solitude, isolation, death, futility) with occasional spurts of sex. So the vast majority of them, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:16 PM
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I thoroughly enjoyed this post and think your explanation really hit it out of the park. Good shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 10:07 PM
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Eh, I think your personal bias (or at least how I interpreted) isn't the most generous in framing the RP perspective, or at least a reasonable person's application of that perspective. I think it's more so concerned with human desire being a primarily subconscious force, thus making overt attempts to change it largely ineffective. What counts is doing the things that cause desire, of which sharing your insecurities (typically) is not included (they'd probably call this maintaining frame).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 09:49 PM
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but they study the human mind through very arbitrary measurements ...such as? Real psychological research uses data such as neurochemical responses and precisely defined instances of behavior that isn't at all arbitrary. Maybe you're confusing current psychological research with like Freud's abstractions or something, but I assure you that the methodological rigor of current research in psychology is sound. No one's seeking the "prestige" of being called a science; no one in the field would give…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/15 12:36 AM
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I get why people get particular about this distinction, and I agree that it isn't a hard science per se, but the vast, vast, vast majority of psych research is not intellectually dishonest. What you have are a lot of studies that aim to analyze very small aspects of human behavior, but end up having their results spun by the media so much that they sound ridiculous. There's also a bit of a conflation issue with "social research" often being confused as psychology, resulting in people putting rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/15 03:39 AM
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Nah, one doesn't have to be self-loathing to buy into it. On a surface level, a lot of what feminism advocates for (wider access to birth control, legality of abortion, having people not get raped) is pretty fucking reasonable. The reason that it often becomes a problematic mindset is the same reason that almost all ideologies become problematic: they advocate the use of exceedingly simple heuristics in the face of an extremely complex world, and then tell people that questioning their worldview…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/15 02:48 AM
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I think it's an issue of mixing different value sets. On one hand I think you have it spot on with "liberal" being tied to open-mindedness and things like this, but I think it's more than possible to have a relatively "liberal" mindset and shun beta tendencies. Taking the GW thing as an example, I'd say there's a big difference between someone like the OP and someone who accepts their partner's desire to be an exhibitionist (some people are just into that kinda thing), but makes things clear and…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 10:37 PM
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I think the "women don't want to end up with people they don't really find attractive" thing isn't necessarily a TRP conclusion because it goes the exact same way for men. No one wants to wake up and realize they made a decision they regret, especially if at the time they thought they were getting a good deal. Feeling like you've been deceived sucks no matter your gender; we shouldn't have to politic around this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/14 03:58 AM
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So would you say then that the current popular TRP is the result of more men being interested in it rather than it inherently being for one gender more than the other? This is a really interesting way of framing TRP. I feel like more people wouldn'r so easily write it off I'd they heard it like this.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 04:42 PM
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First off, we're not "selling" anything, we're giving it away for free. I didn't mean it literally. Perhaps I phrased it poorly. "the message it wants to convey" was the intended meaning. Also, TRP does not say that there is a "natural order power structure wherein men give orders and women are subservient", that's your own spin you've put on it. TRP simply points out that both genders evolved while carrying out specific roles in society and the family unit – men in roles that required physical …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 06:53 AM
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Fair point. As TRP is (from my understanding) a relatively new thing I suppose it wouldn't be strange if women didn't have an equivalent, especially given how accommodating society currently is for them.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:00 AM
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I apologize if it came across as if I were asking to be pointed to such an ideology so that I could get answers about women want. My intention was to find out if TRPers thought there is/there could be a similar movement wherein women realize the realities of the world and act in such a way as to live fulfilling lives. TRP is just a push from boy to man. Women don't need a push by nature. Men have to go forward and take chances. The guidance here can help us a lot but there is no similar idea for…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:58 AM
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Actually I'm decidedly against "feminism" (or at least modern iterations) as an analogue. Painting yourself as a victim of everything in the world is pretty much the opposite of realizing the world is indifferent and changing yourself accordingly. I suppose my curiosity lies more in whether or not TRP believes it's possible that there are conclusions one can arrive at that aren't inferior to TRP (nor necessarily better). Whereas TRP may be "women/the world are this way, realize that and act", co…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:49 AM
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I wrote up a really long post in response to this, but the more I wrote the less sure I was that there really is a difference between the two. My one point of contention is that the "pill" TRP/RPWomen is selling has a sort of natural order power structure wherein men give orders and women are (to whatever degree) subservient, but at that point I guess it comes down to how much one believes in those types of biotruths. Thanks for the thought provoking response.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:49 AM
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Dunno about you, but Skeletor is the fucking epitome of masculinity IMO.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 09:22 PM
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To be fair, the "how to please your man" articles are pretty much the worst advice ever. I involuntarily shudder every time I hear the word "Cosmo."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 07:23 PM
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I interpreted Snowdens' comment as asking if poking holes in someone's argument for the sake of discussion was similar to the Socratic method, but I agree that it's all become a bit vague. Totally agree on your second point.
/r/MensRights02/06/14 06:40 PM
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They were asking if poking holes in someone's argument was similar to Socrates, not telling someone to do research for you.
/r/MensRights01/06/14 07:33 PM
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I'm aware. She mentioned higher up in the thread that she wouldn't want a guy to be friends with her specifically because he was looking to get with her, though. Was curious as to how she managed to find romantic partners if she wanted them to be upfront about their intentions, while simultaneously being unable to become sexually interested in someone until she knows them on a deeper level. My relationships with women have been for the most part platonic (was in a LTR when I met most of my femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 08:17 PM
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Oh, I get what you were saying now. I took the recognizing bit as meaning that you didn't appreciate men trying to be your "friend" in general at first because of the perceived tendency for that kind of thing happening. This makes much more sense lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 04:29 PM
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I'm a little confused by this: how do you develop emotional investment with someone with whom you aren't to some degree close? It seems as if your partner would have to start off as some kind of friend to be a potential match.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 07:21 AM
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Not one of the guys the OP was referring to, but I think I know where some of this comes from. While I do every once in a while meet someone and instantly know I'd like to hook up with them, for the most part most of the people I end up wanting to/would feel comfortable fucking are (girl) friends. I likely wouldn't proposition a friend unless under some very specific circumstances, but the more I like you as a person, the more sexually appealing you'll be. "Friend goggles," so to speak. For a lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 07:12 AM
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It should be more than obvious from even a quick look at the posts on /r/sex that women often have more libido than their partner and that dead bedrooms aren't rare even among straight couples. There's a post that was on the front page last night about a man that had had sex with his wife 6 times in the last 3 years. Maintaining sexual intimacy is something that all couples struggle with at some point. The fact testosterone is the driver of sexual desire Fortunately women also get their share of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 03:00 PM
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Is the woman then also responsible for the man's orgasm?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 12:20 AM
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Thank you so much. I was thinking "V" but rarely if ever think of Vassar.
/r/MensRights18/02/14 10:28 PM
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I hadn't heard the rational, but I'd agree with that reasoning. Most people I know with Asperger's are pretty normal, just come off a little quirky.
/r/MensRights19/10/13 04:50 AM
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The only reason it's not in the DSM anymore is because they regrouped it with the rest of the Autism related disorders under "Autism Spectrum Disorder." So yeah, call them Autistic, not someone with Asperger's. ('_')b
/r/MensRights17/10/13 12:42 AM
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This is interesting. I don't think it's exactly dehumanizing, but there certainly is value added to having an innate trait. Being female has more value than being male, or something along those lines.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 06:24 PM
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This probably a minor detail to you, but it's the entire pool. The windows described are the ones to outside.
/r/MensRights31/08/13 05:16 PM
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Children are extremely capable of cruelty. That said, I feel like rape as a form of cruelty/dominance/whatever requires a ton of social context that vast majority children don't have. There are people that "have sex" before the age of ten, but it really isn't sex so much as child abuse. Again, though, the child would have to know the magnitude of what were doing and then be intent on hurting another child and carry it out. Impossible was poor word choice. I just think for 99.99% of children ther…
/r/MensRights28/08/13 06:34 PM
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The difference is that barber shops are for and marketed to men, whereas restaurants' customer base consists of people of all genders. It's hypocritical if a restaurant kicks out customers with whatever trait because that's not what they advertise. If people knew the restaurant didn't like black people, black people wouldn't want to go there. It'd be like a skinhead walking into a synagogue. He has every right to be there, but none of the people there want him there for a plethora of reasons.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 08:49 AM
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I don't think it's fair to say "religion is a choice," because for many it's a large part of their cultural background. If you grow up going to church every Sunday in a place where everyone else does the same, things related to church (religion) starts to meld with your cultural identity because it's something everyone shares and connects around. Jewish people are probably a good example of this, to the point that it's used as a term to describe both an ethnic group and practitioners of a religi…
/r/MensRights27/08/13 07:47 AM
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I don't think it's that people think women don't want to talk about those things, but that people suddenly feel much less comfortable talking about what a bitch their girlfriend is in the presence of a woman. I really think it is just the sex thing. For a lot of people going to the barber shop is like guys' night out, but with your entire neighborhood.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 05:48 AM
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It would be beyond weird to have all the leverage in sexual relations. Whoa.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 05:39 AM
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I think this entire thing is incredibly stupid. The intent for rape couldn't have possibly been there. She's 10. That said, what would you all think if she actually forced a 4 year old to penetrate her (or whatever other sexual act)? Should she be charged with rape?
/r/MensRights27/08/13 05:36 AM
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It was a little girl doing the raping, though.
/r/MensRights27/08/13 05:34 AM
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Except that's not what he said at all. If your father told you not to go walking through a bad area of town at night, does that mean he's saying if you were to it would be your fault?
/r/MensRights13/08/13 07:40 PM
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I don't think there are biological processes that make us unable to work at any point, though one might be able to make an argument for the finite time frame in which one can do more physically exerting jobs (mining, lumber, firefighting).
/r/MensRights13/08/13 06:56 PM
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To people that haven't see the full segment: What Would You Do had a scenario where three different people attempted to steal a bike in a park with some tools (it was obvious they weren't the owners). The first scenario had a young white guy. Most people walked by without saying anything. A few people walked up and asked him what he was doing. When he admitted he was trying to steal the bike they gently chided him and left. The second scenario had a young black guy. People walking by frequently …
/r/MensRights19/07/13 09:47 AM
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Haha, that's an awesome explanation.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:55 AM
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The food, clothing and schooling aren't the upgrades he's talking about. Having the child in the first place is.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 04:31 PM
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