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/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:18 PM
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That’s my point, but I worded it poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 06:27 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:28 PM
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The lie is most women are overweight. How can you be simultaneously attracted to most women and also just want someone who “isn’t fat”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:21 PM
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Physical attraction is foundational. Romantic partners are people you have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:15 PM
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Yeah, imagine dating someone who you’re both not attracted to and not compatible with. Why would anyone do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:13 PM
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Youve got it backwards. Women talk about their preferences all the time. Men pretend like they’re attracted to the large majority of women and all they want is someone who “isn’t fat”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 03:12 PM
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You’re not compatible with everyone you have a good time with. I’ve noticed a lot of men are fine wasting time with women they don’t see a future with. Women are less inclined to do that. They’d rather just move on, especially if their goal is to find their person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:40 PM
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It’s WEIRD, no one said it was rape culture. This is like the third time you’ve insinuated I said something I clearly did not say. I didn’t say harassment was equal to rape. I didn’t say staring was akin to sexual harassment. Please learn how to read because you’re exhausting. Blocking you now, good luck in life and keep your eyeballs to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:34 PM
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It does exist. Just because you stare at people like a weirdo doesn’t mean it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/24 01:18 PM
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No one is asking you to? No one is saying they’re the same. Sorry that happened to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 07:56 PM
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Rape culture encompasses sexual harassment and sexual assault. Sexual harassment is unwanted sexual remarks or physical advancement. Your argument of “hypothetically someone might think staring at them is harassment, therefore sexual harassment doesn’t exist and isn’t a problem” is ridiculous and even you know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:38 PM
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If nearly every man experienced waterboarding at some point in their life I’d very much agree that we had a culture of waterboarding.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:56 PM
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Reality = Nearly every single woman experiences sexual harassment or assault in her lifetime. You = No culture of rape, doesn’t exist Cool chat
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:12 PM
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You are using male victims as a prop to invalidate the experiences of women, I couldn’t imagine stooping that low.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:56 PM
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wat
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:53 PM
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Oh, you think centuries of rape culture happened because of recent online discourse about nice guys. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:34 PM
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Well, comparatively, one gender has a larger problem with sexual violence. That’s why the message is directed at them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:41 AM
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Do you care about male sexual assault any other time in your life or only when arguing on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:39 AM
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Is there some other gender that perpetuates violence against women that I’m not considering
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:38 AM
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What kind of handholding are you doing where you don’t explicitly know that the other person is comfortable with you touching them? I’m a little worried about your interactions with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:33 AM
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Not all men, but men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:02 AM
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It was in response to decades of telling women not to dress provocatively, not to walk home alone at night, not to talk to strange men, not to do this, not to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:01 AM
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How, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 01:00 AM
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The #MeToo movement resonated because almost all women have had boundary pushing/abusive/sexual harassment/sexual assault situations with regular men. It is incredibly normalized. Ask every single woman in your life if some otherwise regular, unassuming man has sexually harassed her, pushed her boundaries, or worse, and she will tell you yes. This was not "moral panic"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 12:58 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:04 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:57 PM
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That earning gap does exist, but it's closing. As of 2022, 45% of marriages were egalitarian or had wives as the sole/primary earner. Amicable divorces are also more common. Fault-based divorce is still allowed in 30+ states, so if a man wants to argue marital duties were abandoned in some capacity, he could do so and that would affect the outcome of the divorce proceedings. Income and property obtained during the marriage are considered marital assets, this is true. A couple thoughts - agreemen…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 02:55 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:28 PM
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More rejection 😃
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:27 PM
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Stop showing up like the safe guy then :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:34 PM
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Do elaborate on what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 07:36 PM
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You’re committed to being miserable and helpless, so I’m going to let you enjoy that life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:31 PM
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Therein lies the issue with playing life like a numbers game. When you have a take-what-you-can mentality, you end up in situations that suck. When you value agency over helplessness, self-respect over desperation, you find better alignment with others. There is nothing even remotely attractive about someone who takes whatever comes their way. The key part that you’re missing about finding joy in being single is that WITHIN THAT SOLITUDE is where you build the self-respect and resolve to find a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 05:04 PM
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Then get divorced. People are too comfortable being miserable
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:23 PM
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I think I’m misunderstanding because it seems so blatantly obvious. Of course you want to date someone who is attracted to you. Of course you wouldn’t want to date someone who thinks you’re boring and undesirable. Why is this even a gendered conversation? No body wants that
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:36 AM
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Yeah if someone treats sex with you like a chore you don’t marry them
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 02:11 AM
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Are you the safe and boring option though? If those are your actual immutable characteristics, why do you expect other people to treat you like a desire inspiring sex god? That’s the part I’m having trouble understanding
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:03 AM
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If that’s the implication, are you insinuating you don’t inspire sexiness and fun in your relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 09:58 PM
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That literally goes without saying. How are the children getting on earth if your wives don’t want to sleep with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:46 PM
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At some point, guys have to take agency over their own lives. Don’t end up in relationships with women who don’t like you. How hard is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:45 PM
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She’s done having fun = she’s done lacking seriousness and intention with relationships, maybe? Because I doubt someone means “that’s it! I don’t want to experience any joy or sex ever again. Let me find a human being to subject that to.” I’m fairly certain most people aspire for enjoyable partnerships, including sex and fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 07:42 PM
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I don’t get what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:49 PM
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Why do you think someone is incapable of having fun with you too? Are you not fun?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:43 PM
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He wont get good treatment. Having a longterm partner who builds a life with you and births your children isn’t good treatment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 05:42 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 02:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:17 PM
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So, you want a girl that fucks guys right after meeting them? But she also has to be low n count? But she breaks the rules for you because you’re so irresistible? Is that it? That’s another Chad fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:26 PM
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There is nothing inherently wrong about wanting to be desired by a romantic partner. But that’s not what’s happening here. This post, and the ones like it, focus primarily on women and how fast they must have slept with a mythical Chad. Even if this information isn’t true, even if the chick has never slept with anyone but longterm boyfriends, OP will assume because she hasn’t slept with him after one date she doesn’t find him desirable because she clearly slept with a Chad quicker in the past. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 04:51 PM
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I have seen your post history, it is abundantly obvious you were treated badly and you were seeking out answers like I was. You are reading way, way too much into mindless time passing on an otherwise insignificant and inconsequential social media website. I wasn’t “treated badly” I’m just very opinionated. I’m certainly not damned by any decisions, nor do I feel like some victim over dating culture, my god. Truthfully, none of this sounds healthy for you. I hope there are brighter days in your …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 01:03 AM
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You still think your baseless opinions are objective reality. That’s a level of delusion I only aspire to. Go to any study about whether men feel comfortable conveying their negative emotions to their partners, and the answer is overwhelming "No". Hmm, you’re using an example of men having trouble articulating their emotions as proof of their emotional superiority, interesting. Female Friends are also consistently shown to expend less effort and spend less resources than their male counterparts.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:53 AM
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Either the women are turning into landwhales or they sexually freezing the men out (usually because of resentment or cheating). Weird, because you explicitly gave two options for why relationships are sexless and seemed to center directly on women. your framework for understanding male values is inherently and irredeemably flawed. And let me guess, you just so happen to understand it all perfectly. No severe emotion dysregulation clouding your judgment, no unsubstantiated opinions masquerading a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:10 AM
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The point I made about OF subscriptions, which you so blithely ignored is that it directly speaks to the quality of these women and the credibility of these relationships. Oh okay, your wild unsubstantiated conjecture should be taken as verifiable fact. My apologies. Your deflection is inherently pointless because it shows that physical intimacy is not being facilitated or maintained with the woman I just don't think the idea that people who consume porn are also sexless is true. But, that seems…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 12:06 AM
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That’s not 50/50 in all regards because earning money at a job is not equivalent and doesn’t carry the same risks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:29 PM
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I trust the only time you care about sexism is when you’re weaponizing it in an argument. The point is relationships can’t be 50/50 in all regards, I’m sorry that is so deeply destabilizing for you. Hope it resolves <3
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 03:29 PM
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Are you okay? Because no one said that either. You are literally imaging things to overreact about. Take a break
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:25 PM
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What are you even talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:16 PM
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Men can now carry and birth babies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:10 PM
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Thank you, I’m very passionate about validating chemistry because it has gotten a bad rep over the past few years due to pop psychology tiktok nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:20 PM
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you know men also gain weight when they get older, and develop ED, and lose their attractiveness, and have hormonal changes that effect their sex drive. It’s not solely the fault of women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 05:10 PM
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Dead bedrooms is evidence of attraction that changes due to relationship issues. People have unique mechanisms for desire and everyone responds to stress, debt, child rearing, hormonal changes, etc differently. It’s up to those adults to figure out the problem and change it or leave the relationship. Being complacent in misery is the worst choice
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:51 PM
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Men like porn, I’ve heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:44 PM
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Chemistry is both a science and a term used to describe a phenomenon that occurs between two people. Don’t be obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:44 PM
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So really we’re looking at 2 percent of guys that get 90 percent of girls . Considering 60% of adult men 30 and above are partnered and/or married your math doesn’t check out… at all. Not even in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:54 PM
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Chemistry is not a mystical concept and it goes beyond physical attractiveness. It encompasses a fluidity of conversation, emotional attunement, a sense of familiarity, and an ease of connection. It’s not just “oh, she’s attractive.” You can walk up to an attractive person, find them attractive, and have zero chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:52 PM
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You putting a height in your profile that isn’t true isn’t a lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:15 PM
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Romantic connections need attraction and chemistry to begin. If you’re choosing a life partner, you’re choosing someone you’re drawn to. You can’t just pair up two strangers with “good qualities” like they’re co-workers and expect them to develop an enduring romantic love like a job. Attraction and chemistry come first. Other qualities come later, but that doesn’t mean they don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 02:02 PM
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Couldn't even get a match on tinder until I put my height as 5'11 rather than 5'9". What else do you lie about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 01:52 PM
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Even the concept of “making you wait” insinuates that they are withholding something dutifully owed to you. Lowkey gross mindset. I can’t conceptualize someone being both a ‘good guy’ and also expecting a woman he hardly knows to sleep with him immediatelt. If you want your interactions to behave like a one night stand, explain to me why you don’t present yourself as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:27 AM
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That is the opposite of what I think
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 03:49 AM
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People can show signs of physical attraction without sleeping with you the second they meet you. Relationships are not what you care about if you think the foundation is sex. That doesn’t even come close the real foundation of a strong relationship lol I’m tired, goodnight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:21 PM
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Gaslighting, lol. Treating your ‘LTR better than any other girl’ would include not pressuring her into sex under the guise that at some point in time she maybe slept with a ONS. If sex is all you care about, lead with that. Problem solved, boys
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:44 PM
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I would never offer that as an acceptable scenario. That wasn’t my point at all. If you need to be desired at a certain speed, leave when your needs aren’t being met. But don’t pretend like you have actual data about how slowly or quickly any woman you’re dating has slept with people over the course of her lifetime, because you absolutely don’t. It isn’t about her, it’s about your sensitivity to feeling inferior
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:37 PM
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If you assume every woman on earth met someone more desirable than you at some point in time, it’s no longer about the woman. It’s all about your inferiority complex. If your only measure of being treated well is how quickly you access sex, you should lead with sex and stop pretending to be interested in anything else. Sex is what matters most
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:28 PM
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Calm down, tiger. How would you know a woman had one night stands? The second actual issue here is the fact that a guy wants to act like harmless, non-threatening boyfriend material when he wants to be treated on par with a quick one night stand. Act the part
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:05 PM
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If he buys her a house and pays the bills, I’d say that is providing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:55 PM
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You think they want these types of men because they need them. I’m pretty sure successful women want successful men because they find it attractive, not because they need them to survive (especially if they have their own money). You don’t have to like it or agree with it, people will do whatever makes them happy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:05 PM
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It’s not about wanting to be desired. It’s about wanting to be desired like the idea of some other guy she probably desired more. If a guy goes into every romantic situation with the immediate thought that his partner must have desired someone more than him at some point, is it actually about women or is that about his own inferiority complex?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:02 PM
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The majority of my relationships have happened offline so I knew what their teeth looked like beforehand. But I would never go out with someone who didn’t smile in their photos if that was my only representation of them. Online dating is a gamble and it is not worth the risk to find out in person that they have meth mouth or they’re missing half of their teeth. I’m not saying that’s OP’s situation, but that’s the risk he’s asking people to take. It’s similar to someone only taking photos from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:54 PM
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At the core of OP’s post and everyone that thinks like him is the desire to be treated like a Chad and the resentment of being reminded that they aren’t. They pretend it has something to do with a woman’s desire, her past, etc, but the only thing that matters is their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:16 PM
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If a woman is not sleeping with you in the same time period as she did with the guys before you, it is because you are not attractive enough nor are you trust worthy enough. AGAIN? Every day with this. Every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:11 PM
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Not exactly what I’ve witnessed, but sure doll
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:09 PM
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Absolutely. Just ask the guy who isn’t smiling in any of his photos who can’t get a match or date.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 01:04 PM
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I can complain? Or I can't?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:47 AM
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But I'm not annoyed with the traditional expectation of virginity because it's not a common expectation. Most adult men would find the presence of virginity an undesirable hindrance at 30+ years old.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:37 AM
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Do you think it's possible you're annoyed with these expectations because you don't have them to give? Because plenty of people take pride in being a protector and provider of their partners and families
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:52 AM
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You do realize guys provide and spend thousands on engagement rings even for ambitious career women who aren’t virgins, right? There are no rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:39 AM
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The problem with his profile, in my opinion, is that he doesn't smile in any of his photos. For any one that has ever dated online, this is a red flag that the person is hiding their smile. I told him that and he said he didn't want to smile with teeth because ... reasons. The same reason he doesn't smile in any of his photos is the same reason why he isn't getting many matches. People don't want to be surprised by terrifying or missing teeth on the first date. It is not worth the gamble. And th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 11:05 PM
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A lot better for you, but its easier for them to just not respond probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:57 PM
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Just like your eye color and gender is determined by genetics so is your brain structure That’s genuinely not how it works, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 05:06 AM
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Assertiveness is not a static trait. It is context dependent. It can be honed, refined, improved, and it looks different for everyone. I don't believe personality types are determined at birth. I believe humans have natural dispositions and nurture/early childhood experiences/societal influences decide ones personality. Assertiveness doesn't necessarily need "back up" - I don't think we're talking about the same thing. Being able to say "I appreciate you as a friend, but I don't want to be an em…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 04:09 AM
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Thank you for validating my observations :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:31 PM
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More than one thing can matter at once, in different combinations, to different people. But when I mentioned assertiveness, I meant it in the context of OP removing himself from undesirable situations, not attracting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:24 PM
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It’s not contradictory. If 80% of people find your undesirable traits unattractive, and 20% of people are desperate enough to overlook it, it matters, it’s just not terminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:22 PM
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Anyone can be assertive. Are you really advocating for people to just be doormats? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:18 PM
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I’m not invalidating your opinion, more than one thing can matter at once. Over the past two decades, I’ve witnessed my most confident friends have significantly more male interest than everyone else. I’ve also witnessed my very attractive friends garner interest, but attraction + confidence made the most difference. Just my observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:15 PM
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Confidence is relevant to both sexes. Women who are both confident and attractive are significantly more desirable. Low self-esteem is not attractive in anyone. Women with undesirable traits get attention because there are people desperate enough to give it, not because the traits don’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:03 PM
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But that wasn’t my observation. I learned that people like attractiveness and confidence before everything else. I’m not pushing the just world fallacy because I explicitly don’t believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:53 PM
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he ends up being the guy women vent to about other men It’s implied these circumstances are undesirable. If OP tolerated circumstances he did not enjoy for the sake of other people, that’s doormat behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:36 PM
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Exactly this. When I was in elementary school, I had a crush on a guy in my class. My parents told me to just be myself and everyone would like me. Literally by the end of elementary school, when I was 10, I learned what people actually like is attractiveness and confidence. At 10 years old, I understood my parents were just trying to make me feel comfortable in my own skin. How do all of these guys grow up with a chip on their shoulder, unable to realize the world had no obligation to give a de…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:23 PM
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young guy who was raised believing having a delightful personality Being a pushover with no spine is not a delightful personality. Lacking assertiveness, confidence, and self-esteem is not a delightful personality. Nice-guying everyone to death is not a delightful personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:15 PM
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You’re being hyperbolic. The original commenter said most guys, just like everyone here says most guys are attracted to most women. Her observation is congruent with reality and you lost it. Common sentiment: Most guys are attracted to most women Original commenter: most men are attracted to me You: how dare you!!!!!!!!!! Make it make sense. Actually don’t, you don’t seem alright. Get well soon doll
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:00 PM
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Narcissistic meltdown, I don’t even think you know what that means lol You are strangely bothered by the entitled princess thing. Work through it boss
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:02 PM
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U ok bro, you seem disproportionately angry compared to the situation at hand
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:58 PM
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EVERY DAY ON THIS SUB: Guys are attracted to and will sleep with most women A WOMAN ON THIS SUB: Most guys I meet want to sleep with me YOU: How arrogant! You aren’t that special! lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:51 PM
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Someone’s wife or girlfriend has guy friends This entire sub: I don’t like it because most guys probably just want to have sex with her Girl says most guys she knows wants to have sex with her This entire sub: Wow you’re a narcissist! It’s almost parody! Shit is comical
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:49 PM
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You’d do life forever with someone you didn’t even like just to not be ‘the last single friend’? That’s not as common as you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 11:11 PM
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The average male height is 5’10”, above that is tall and below that is short.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:32 PM
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Weird, it seems like you’d have to at least like someone to commit to intertwining your entire life with them… but hey, maybe not
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:28 PM
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It’s still the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:27 PM
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Uh, yes, me and literally every woman I’ve ever known
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:27 PM
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Howare 60+% of men married or engaged after 30 if women only like tall and rich men? Most men aren’t tall and most men aren’t rich
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:14 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:05 PM
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Was I? You didn’t observe the pretty girls with large groups of friends or the cute guys that everyone liked, even the teachers? This stuff was happening right before our eyes. Surely I wasn’t the only kid gleaning information from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 01:03 PM
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Women are just shallow. That's it 🫠 Are you saying you date women who aren’t attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:39 PM
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Everyone grows up hearing the same thing, both men and women. Just be yourself, just be nice, and others will like you. It’s up to you to use your eyes and ears and decipher the world around you. I remember being “nice” in elementary school and realizing oh, it’s not niceness that people like, it’s attractiveness and confidence. I was 9.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 02:37 PM
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That’s by design of nature. There is no benefit to women finding the majority of men attractive when most women are monogamous and desire to pair off 1:1. It’s not a numbers game.
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My first impressions are correct 99% of the time. In the past, I found myself wishing I would have listened to myself sooner about everything - friends, jobs, dates, situations etc. Now I have intense self trust, it always steers me in the right direction.
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I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore. Feel better boss
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 01:01 PM
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I’m not reading all of this. Congrats or sorry bro
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:27 AM
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When you say we, you mean men in general INCLUDING YOU, otherwise you’d just say men or separate yourself in some way. the mental gymnastics is tiring. Muting you now, best of luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 03:49 PM
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You literally said "we" - it was already personal. And the reason I ask if you're getting relationships at all is because most of the people here complaining about women, dating, being settled for etc aren't having any experiences of the sort. It's just peripheral judgments and conjecture about things they haven't experienced. It's not a roast battle, it's getting to the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 02:12 PM
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Are you saying you get relationships with women at all
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 01:01 PM
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Yeah, and that's not what 'marriage material' means. Women use that term to describe the whole package, someone who is both attractive and longterm partner worthy. The men here have a visceral reaction to the idea of 'marriage material' because it's a reminder they aren't Chad. And let's be real, no one here is in danger of being called marriage material
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/24 12:06 AM
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This entire post (and the hundreds before it, this is by no means a new topic) is about how being valued for long term viability “isn’t a compliment” and being valued for quick sex is better. So, everyone here is saying that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 11:03 PM
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It’s beyond stupid at this point If someone can see a future with a person, that means they find them attractive enough to bang for the rest of their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 09:12 PM
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You’re operating with your own definition of marriage material. Most women would disagree with your definition and they are the ones who actually use the term.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:19 PM
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I understand the phenomenon you’re trying to explain, I see it mentioned here 400 times a day, every day. It’s like this— imagine needing to jump through extra hoops and give up sex easily to a man and then you found out he was willing to wait for a prior woman and give her lots of loyalty and commitment , emotional support and so on. I don’t have these problems
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:16 PM
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Yes, you’re admitting to facing every romantic interaction with the idea that someone hotter came before you. Sounds like a nightmare tbh. A lot of people don’t think that way, especially people who don’t have low self-esteem / a low self-worth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:09 PM
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I disagree. Husband material means you lucked out with someone you don’t have to settle for.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:07 PM
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If the only thing you can think about with every girl you meet is the fact that someone she’s dated was probably hotter and easier to sleep with, that’s actually not about them. That’s about your self-concept and self-esteem. You are projecting the same assumption onto everyone you meet, it’s your insecurities at play.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 08:01 PM
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Because access to sex is the only thing they value. The guys here OBSESS over the fact that they aren’t ultra attractive men who get what they want from everyone. It is pathological at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/24 07:59 PM
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Some people aren’t eligible for Invisalign due to the severity of their cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:24 PM
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My leftist socialist ex made $200,000/yr. He donated large amounts of that to many causes, was an active member of socialist groups, supported every demonstration and protest in town. Being a socialist does not resign you to poverty. That’s your narrative. Even Karl Marx himself came from a rich family and had resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:47 PM
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You didn’t ask me that. There’s nothing to be ‘truthful’ about. People find closeness and connection at different rates with everyone in their lives - friends, coworkers, romantic partners, even family. There is no expectation to be consistent, people aren’t robots and every connection is different. You don’t even act the same with every woman you meet. Some people you like right away, some you have to warm up to. that’s normal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:24 AM
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bro what question
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 04:12 AM
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Good f*cking grief. Average and below average men can be manipulative about sex as well. What on earth is up with you people thinking attractive = evil, bad and unattractive = obviously good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:32 AM
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Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:23 AM
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You guys love fantasizing about this mythical Chad, some guy you think is more attractive and better at romance than you will ever be. Some guy that has gotten with each and every woman you’ve ever dated. You’ll never measure up, you’ll always be 10th best. Doesn’t the misery of hyperfocusing on attractive men you will never be get exhausting?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:21 AM
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That’s actually not what I’m suggesting. I’m suggesting that women finding the majority of men attractive would actually be undesirable from the guy’s standpoint due to the male ego. This isn’t about cheating. This is about you knowing that there is nothing special about you, most men are attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 12:16 AM
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‘Marriage material’ wouldn’t feel entitled to sex from a partner that isn’t ready.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 02:24 PM
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Weird, so how can guys believe this and also simultaneously believe women need to give more men “a chance”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:44 PM
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women finding so few men attractive is the root of the problem You only end up with one person in the end. Why does a single woman have some obligation to find many men attractive? She’s not trying to be of utility to many men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:42 AM
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I don’t believe that to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 04:30 AM
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Do you think that’s a common experience for most women? They can get any man they want?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:51 AM
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No empathy for your fellow man, none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:50 AM
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Ohhh that was your point. Yeah no, every study shows men cheat more than women on average. But I don’t think all men are cheaters, no. She's chosen me. I'm more to her than just her sexual attraction to me. Every guy here seems to think women will just leave when someone better comes along though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:07 AM
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No, not at all. What does that have to do with anything
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:02 AM
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The point is most guys aren’t hot. So, once again, would you want your girlfriend or wife to suddenly wake up and find most men sexually desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:01 AM
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That’s not what I was asking though. Do you want your wife to magically make up one morning and find 90% of men sexually desirable? Loving the downvotes
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:55 AM
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Are you really making claims here and demanding me to provide proof of the contrary instead of you providing support for your claim? Now that is a new one. You’re “proof” of online experiments is actually kinda funny. Making a woman’s profile on a dating app and getting likes doesn’t mean much. Men are notorious superswipers who barely even look at profiles most of the time. You recall the notorious pig-woman tinder experiment? Something half human half animal even gets likes on tinder because m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:53 AM
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In 2022, men died by suicide 3.85 times more than women. https://afsp.org/suicide-statistics/ Maybe the antidepressants are a good choice (and not something to make fun of)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:35 AM
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their sexual market value is declining but their entitlement and expectations for rich, tall, high status and handsome men remains sky high Is your archetypal woman gleaned from Instagram models? Because most women date and marry laterally within social class their entire lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:31 AM
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Attraction is a unique phenomenon by design. Do you really want your wife to find 90% of men within a 500 mile radius sexually desirable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:29 AM
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I’m not a fucking blue piller. You keep talking about dating app numbers, all I’m asking is what data app numbers show 70 year old women dating like famous rich multimillionaire men? Where are you getting this information? What you think is an objective fact about the world you’re also saying can’t be proven. How convenient You: source: just trust me bro
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 03:50 AM
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thanks for the empirical data, very helpful!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 02:03 AM
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Bro. If you're saying this is true, please provide even one shred of empirical data to support 70 year old grandmas having dating lives akin to multimillionaire male celebrities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 02:22 PM
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When you have 70yo grandmas with as many options on the dating market as multimillionaire male celebrities, with no male-version of that phenomenon, it's pretty obvious it's not conjecture I actually laughed out loud. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:20 AM
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I’m not a blue piller. You didn’t say one thing about averages. Your theories about the world aren’t ‘rules’ they’re just conjecture
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:31 PM
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What are you actually talking about? I worked for a university
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 01:29 PM
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I’m an actual researcher and I disagree. There have been thousands of studies on sex, dating, and intimacy. The idea that the data is “not possible” to collect is inaccurate. There is the natural inclination to give socially desirable answers. This is why researchers ask different questions in various ways throughout participant interviews… to help them flesh out the meaning in their experiences. Researchers aren’t idiots haphazardly asking questions to random people. There are methodologies tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:22 AM
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Don’t worry. You can protect yourself by not listening to the bad advice here and not sleeping with casual strangers. There is genuinely no point. Even if you weren’t a virgin, sleeping with someone who doesn’t like you would not feel great. What incentive do they have to prioritize your pleasure, or comfort, or safety? Absolutely none. It’s not worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:05 AM
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Random men out of her league, random friends who are supposed “matches” - you had your own characters and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:02 AM
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He came up with an entire fictional storyline
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:55 AM
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and plenty of men do actually care about making sure their partner is having a good time even in a casual situation Empirical data disagrees. Men care significantly less about the satisfaction of their sex partner when the situation is casual. Does that sound like a fun time for a woman who is a virgin?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 03:53 AM
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some men will be forced to date them No one is ‘forced’ to date anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:02 PM
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some men will be forced to date them No one is ‘forced’ to date anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 05:02 PM
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Same here 100%. Little teeth freak me out. I need men who have lots of hair on their head and none on their face. Beards are such a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:19 PM
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I'm correct about my presumption about you. This actually made me laugh out loud, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:38 AM
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It’s amusing that you call me cocky as you sit here thinking you know everything about a faceless stranger on the internet. You overestimate the validity of your own thoughts. I’m not mean because I’m not interested in being pestered by men. And I’m under no obligation to be nice when people invade my personal space.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 02:04 AM
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You’re right, I am entitled… entitled to my own personal space from complete strangers. What a crime
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 12:59 AM
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This isn’t about my personality. I’m not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:29 AM
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Bro, I am not cold approaching women. I am a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 01:29 AM
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I agree, I think it’s gross and exploitative, but also ironic. They resent western women for prioritizing resources and standards when choosing a partner … so they go to a foreign country to find a wife who only wants them for their resources and nothing else. That is their “solution” - someone from a different culture who views them as a meal ticket, the very thing they detest in American women. It’s remarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 10:05 PM
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I can read sir, no need to be a broken record. I honed in on that because it’s the most relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 09:24 PM
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Good grief, I had no idea. Every time I see a post that women care about passport bros, I’ve always said NO WE DONT. Apparently some do. Yikes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:35 PM
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I find it peculiar that you’ve conflated my disdain for being approached for sex by complete strangers as some sort of anti-social act against humanity. I’m a very social person, I enjoy socializing and do it frequently. There is a fine line between socializing and some random person approaching you in hopes that it might lead to sex at some point in time. You may think people are “entitled” to attempt to socialize with strangers, but entitlement ends where someone else’s autonomy begins. Truthf…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:33 PM
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In a pie chart of reasons why guys cold approach, the potential for a sexual experience takes up the whole thing. Let’s be real
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 07:13 PM
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Fascinating, where exactly did I villainize anyone? he can't get your attention without approaching. Who says I want this person to have my attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:18 PM
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it could also end up being possibly a great sexual experience This is why cold approaches are so viscerally aggravating. It’s just some random guy gambling on the chance that his awkward disruption of someone’s day might randomly lead to sex. After the 3000th time this happens, you begin to really resent it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 05:58 PM
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Do we? I haven’t seen any medis content about passport bros from women, it’s all from men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 04:09 PM
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Um, empirical data and academic research support the observation that ‘slut’ is a gendered insult. I couldn’t find a single solitary paper supporting the idea that ‘virgin’ is a gendered insult towards men. It’s not an actual phenomenon in the way that you are expressing it. Are people teased for being virgins? Yes, across both genders. Is the term virgin used solely towards men? No, this is demonstrably false and such a claim is not supported. Anyways, I’m muting this conversation because I’m n…
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:59 PM
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I’m just fascinated with the near pathological obsession certain men have with makeup. There is no demographic that talks about makeup more than guys like you. It’s.. close to resentment, maybe? Envy? This anger that women beautify themselves? Anyways, I don’t have anything to add (like you said) so take care!
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:44 AM
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Makeup looks better in photos, so it especially looks better on Instagram. The fact that you think concealing dark circles, filling in eyebrows, and some contouring makes someone “completely different” is sending me. If you can recognize someone with and without makeup they don’t look “completely different” - it’s not a face transplant. Makeup looks nice. Average plain faces are unremarkable. Congratulations, you can see!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:31 AM
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many women are seen as good looking because we temporarily see most women when they are outside and ready to be presentable with makeup on Makeup is not the sorcery y’all think it is. 90% of women aren’t wearing transformation-level makeup on a day to day basis. Makeup accentuates features and beautifies, it does not turn someone into a different person. and seeing her the morning after The unfortunate thing about dating a human woman is sometimes she is done up for a special occasion (for your …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:48 AM
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Attracted for sex. You wouldn’t marry, love, commit to every woman you’d happily have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:08 PM
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When guys ask what women bring to the table: the special love you can’t get anywhere else and feel so empty and worthless without
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:02 PM
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If you want something from others, you must be willing to inspire it. You cannot demand genuine desire or feel entitled to it, it will never come.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:58 PM
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The large majority of strangers aren’t interested in other strangers. Go up to a random guy and he won’t want to be your friend, either. Most of the “interest” men have in women is wanting sex from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:57 PM
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This sounds a little reminiscent of the Elliot Rodger manifesto. Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:52 PM
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End casual sex!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:49 PM
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So sweet of you to be so concerned about women and their happiness. What a nice change of pace for things around here
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 08:04 PM
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If your partner is not extremely physically attractive to you, to the point where you can't keep your hands off them, you shouldn't be dating them. Agreed. Women should hold out completely until they find an extremely physically attractive partner, otherwise they’re wasting their time
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:57 PM
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If women continue to keep going for the top 20% of men as they are now, it will always be competitive and usually not result in LTR. Most adults are married, partnered, and cohabitating by their late 20s/30. If all women were solely pining for the “top 20% of men” then that wouldn’t be the case. Most women would benefit from changing their strategy if they actually wanted relationships and commitment. Most women don’t have any problem getting relationships. I thought men were the ones struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:03 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:39 PM
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You think the only two age groups are 18-24 and boomers?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:33 PM
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OLD accounts for like 1/5th of adult relationships, more for the younger crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:25 PM
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Just like men, just like you probably. You’re fine with your girl banging multiple dudes and having a rotation as long as she gives you a heads up ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:24 PM
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I’m glad to see you took a couple days to get some clarity. I hope that was helpful for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:23 PM
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It’s so interesting how you’re all the same. The archetypal PPD commenter — he replies that something is blatantly obvious and then spend several comments refusing to elaborate for his own obtuse reasons. And then, when called out, he exclaims he’s deliberately withholding his thoughts because aT tHiS pOiNt it’s basically beneath him to say exactly what he means in plain words vs bizarre leading questions. Somehow, through all of the nonsense, he still manages to find the audacity to think he’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:46 PM
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You can say what you mean whenever youre ready, I won’t rush you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 06:33 AM
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It did not sadly, feel free to elaborate on your thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:01 AM
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guess I’m just dense then!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 04:24 AM
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This is extremely f*cked up yet incredibly normalized. It's completely normal for a guy to obfuscate his intentions, pretend to be looking for longterm when they've made a judgment call about a girl within the first 5 minutes that she would be nothing to him. It's the type of lying everyone accepts as normal and as part of dating, but it's borderline rape by deceit in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:57 PM
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I don't think guys who struggle with women are bad people. I think guys who lie to to women are bad people, I think guys who misconstrue their intentions are bad people. I don't want you to lie or cheat your way into anyone's bedroom either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:46 PM
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all you can do is hope she's not also getting dicked down by some douchebag with a better apartment and no plan to commit I'm sorry, this made me laugh out loud. I've always been curious - if women are so easily swayed by douchebags, what's stopping a guy from being a douche to get women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:00 PM
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Looking to fall in love with a dream rather than a person It sounds like she's trying to fall in love with your friend but he's emotionally unavailable and dating five other women. Sounds like ... he's the problem. I'm defending against the idea that women are to blame for men dating multiple women at a time. You say that women wouldn't care if they knew the truth, so why don't most men lead with the truth? Why does every city have an Are We Dating The Same Guy page? Personally, I've never been …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:53 PM
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Quantify plenty
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:21 PM
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You cannot rework the definition of lying by omission. If he is willfully concealing other relationships because he knows the truth will change the situation it is lying. Why are you going to bat for this hypothetical person in the wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:15 PM
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Did you just call me a bitch? Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:12 PM
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Right, that’s why there are Facebook groups dedicated to uncovering deceitful men because women know and want that experience. Take a break
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:11 PM
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Hmm, let’s see. A woman is dating multiple people with the intent of finding a longterm partner. She finds someone she likes, they eventually become exclusive and she stops dating everyone else. That’s how most modern dating goes. In the rotation scenario, the guy is pretending to already be in relationships with women and leading them on. This goes beyond the casual dating that’s described above, this is willful deceit. In regards to the scenario of the girlfriend dating others and having fwb b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:10 PM
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When you try to assert the idea that most women are in rotations while actual data shows that’s not true, it’s relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:00 PM
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That isn’t congruent with reality. By 30, most adults are married and/or cohabitating with a partner. And most people date laterally in terms of looks and social status. Most people are regular and dating other regular people. How does the rotation work then? Attractive men of high social status are more likely to be married than any other group of men, and the median age for marriage is 27. Facts over baseless assertions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:05 PM
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Ohhh, you think men pull off ‘rotations’ with unwitting women by being truthful. That’s hilarious. Lying by omission is still lying. If she’s dating you with the assumption she’s only dating you, and you’ve got 5 other girlfriends, you are a liar. I don’t know who ‘y’all’ is. I’ve never been in anyone’s rotation a day in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:56 PM
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You wouldn’t date someone you found ugly but you expect women to. Make it make sense. Most women aren’t in ‘rotations’ - there aren’t enough attractive men on earth to pull that off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:52 PM
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Exactly. The conversation is never about why men are lying and ruining dating for everyone else. The question is why women aren’t superhuman lie detectors and why women won’t date ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:50 PM
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Women wouldn’t ‘rather’ be in a rotation. The point here is that they don’t know/they’re being lied to. Question. Would you date or marry someone you found ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:48 PM
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Men can work on their visual appeal, most choose not to
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:33 PM
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No smoke for the men being deceptive and lying to multiple women. All the contempt for the women who think they’re in a normal relationship but they’re being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:30 PM
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Agreed. Date who is naturally into you and don’t date who isn’t. Guys still hyperfixate on the idea that any random girl they interact with has dated or hooked up with someone she found very attractive. This isn’t unique to women. Men treat women they find very attractive much different than the ones they barely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:13 PM
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Why do non-Chads feel entitled to a world where they are treated like Chads? Do you know? It’s puzzling.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 09:55 PM
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That is the goal. And how is it working for you? Women are creating an incentive structure that rewards spending time and effort into being attractive Wow, sounds like you’ve figured it out. Have you tried being more attractive?
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Lol, I’ve maintained that being nice doesn’t get anyone anywhere. You’re not telling me anything new.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:59 PM
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If you don’t think it’s weird to perform a personality to gain access to people, I don’t know what to tell you Thankfully it sounds like it’s not working
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:53 PM
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We’re talking in literal circles. It’s because nice takes on a broader meaning in that context. Similar to an employer saying “We think you’re great, but we’ve decided to hire a different candidate.” The rejector is acknowledging positive attributes overall, but they aren’t interested in moving forward. Would you reply “But I thought I was great?! How could you not hire me?! Do you even value greatness?! Clearly not.” You guys are hyperfixating on the word nice to be obtuse. them being nice won’…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:49 PM
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You’re asking why even mention nice at all, I’m explicitly saying because, in that context, nice just means you’re fine but I’m not interested. It doesn’t change anything, people are trying to get out of awkward uncomfortable situations with as much grace as possible. It’s not that deep
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 03:06 PM
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Sounds like I was almost killed by a man for saying I wasn’t interested, something you think doesn’t happen.
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/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:36 PM
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I actually have defended late bloomers many times. It’s probably deleted by now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:29 PM
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Yeah, that’s actually not something I’d say or believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:35 PM
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Do you genuinely think the world at large is concerned with me and my struggles? Genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:32 PM
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You are not the arbiter of empathy. I’m sure you realize the pure absurdity of speaking with authority about who I am as a person when you know nothing about me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:13 PM
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I’m not your therapist. I don’t need to validate your feelings as if you’re a child in need of coddling. You can have those expectations within intimate relationships, but to demand a behavior from others you don’t even practice yourself is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:59 PM
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I’m inviting you to explore what it means for random people to show you empathy? What does that look like in application? Because it’s a bizarre thing to fixate on, almost nonsensical. I value empathy highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:54 PM
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Why do random women owe you empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:21 PM
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Other men like alpha males more than women do lol
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/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 02:41 AM
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And guys whining incessantly on the internet about women, is that not also emotion 🥹
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:30 AM
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Just conjecture and nonsense at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:08 AM
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A future worth pursuing, what does that even mean? Women work as much as men, go to college as much as men (more actually), and contribute near equally to most households in 2024. What are u talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 04:13 AM
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Sounds like women have what men want (sex) and they even offer mental health services. How nice!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:18 AM
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Like men have to earn being sexually desirable, not simply demand it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:25 PM
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If a man is boring how is he amazing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:22 PM
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This is the first post I’ve ever seen where a woman was doing an experiment and not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 10:21 PM
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Why do you have such a peculiar interest in what women want in a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:20 AM
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Stating facts about this sub and it’s contents constitute as a lack of empathy, are you sure about that? Yes, it’s well known women take better care of their health (including mental health) and thus get help for their depression when they’re sad. Men honestly should do the same. Y’all love this ‘where are all the good men’ line. Are you the good man anyone is seeking?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:03 AM
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Aren’t men the one going through a loneliness epidemic and crying here every day about lack of dates, sex, and relationships? I think women are doing alright
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Riiiight, nearly every “What’s your type?” video is women being unapologetic about their preferences and the comments are overwhelmed with rage filled men. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:07 PM
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Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 05:39 PM
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And you don’t care about looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:44 PM
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I thought women are openly shallow saying that they want attractive rich 6 ft men? Are women openly shallow or are they lying about what they want? Pick one
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 03:44 PM
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This is exactly why I allow people to pay for dates. Do you want to split 50/50 with a guy for 4-5 dates before realizing he’s the type of person that would expect sex for a burger? Wouldn’t that save you time?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:00 AM
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All relationships are.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:56 AM
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You think I’m dependent on a guy who bought me a $5 coffee?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 12:56 AM
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I said OP has the One True Definition of Love and he’s guarding it with his life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:24 AM
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In what context were you being rejected?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 05:12 PM
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You think I need to be explicitly engaged with male issues in order to see if other people are putting it down or not? That doesn’t follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:51 PM
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Why do I need to engage with men’s issues? Men don’t even engage with men’s issues. How is this my responsibility when it’s not even yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 10:08 PM
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At some point, you have to ask yourself if you're seeking out things to be mad at. I'm a woman myself and I hardly ever see any content where women are putting down and belittling men's issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:07 PM
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Feminists don't expect men to lead the charge in women's issues. They are doing it themselves, creating the change they want to see, not waiting around for men to hand them anything
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 07:05 PM
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Women are not solely responsible for circumcision. In fact, many men insist that their son’s are circumcised to “match” them. Circumcision is terrible and I’m against it. But I do think men need to lead the charge here, which they are already doing. To think feminists have some obligation to solve the issue of circumcision is so… I don’t even know what to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:44 PM
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Why aren’t you upset with your fellow man for not mobilizing efforts to address these issues? Why do you have more anger towards women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:38 PM
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We’re on a post about what things men can do to make themselves more attractive. I’m observing your resistance to having agency over your own appearance.
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/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:40 PM
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Bro, I don’t know how many times I can say that both men and women can be drawn to negative traits. It’s not a gendered behavior. Muting this now, have a fun day!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 06:54 PM
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You meant to say 75000 liked a picture on the internet, they pressed a single solitary button and otherwise carried on with their day. No one thinks sexual success is an indicator of morals, you’re arguing about something no one even said.
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Women are lusting after him because he is considered significantly attractive, first and foremost. I don’t find him attractive, but clearly other people do. Why do I need to repeat the same thing over and over? Gypsy Rose is not attractive by conventional means. She received tons of fan mail and marriage proposals from men. Where did anyone say sexual success an indicator of their morals?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:21 PM
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The source I read didn’t mention the charge related to the child, which is terrible. He’s still not a murderer. Certain women do find criminality and danger charming. It’s still not delegated to one sex in particular, hence men thirsting after murderous women, even the unattractive ones. Who on earth said someone’s sexual success is related to their morals? Literally where is anyone arguing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 05:02 PM
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Gypsy Rose and Casey Anthony weren’t serial killers? And I didn’t say men were attracted to their power? I don’t know where you got that from. Guys deliberately sent letters to them because they found the totality of their situation attractive, including the murder part, not just because they were attractive. Jeremy Meeks was a Crup with firearm and theft chargers, he wasn’t a murderer. He became an international model before he met Chloe, she didn’t pluck him out of prison. I didn’t watch the v…
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The point is most educated women aren’t associating with terrorists and drug dealers. One educated woman marrying someone from isis is a statistical anomaly, not an indicator of some larger phenomenon. Gypsy Rose Blanchard murdered her own mother (by proxy) and had men from all over the country sending her letters in jail trying to marry her. Casey Anthony killed her own child and had men obsessed with her and doing the same. There are human beings that find darkness arousing, it’s not limited t…
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Guys on this sub every single day https://preview.redd.it/jiq3rx7k6iad1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffc3b56819dcdada5491a30caadbaa65cc54f41a
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/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 04:33 AM
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Now go find the study that surveys more than white collar workers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 02:01 AM
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So the large majority of women are realistic then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:07 AM
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Doesn’t research show that single women are the happiest demographic? And single men are straight up kllng themselves? Don’t worry about me. Please worry about men, a group that actually needs your concern
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:02 AM
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And who wants what you’re selling? Any takers?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:06 AM
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Exactly. Leonardo is built like someone’s stocky Italian uncle with negative sex appeal, everyone is out of his league, he just has money.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:05 AM
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I don’t know, nature seems to have put sex and dating squarely in the favor of women (aside from childbirth).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:04 AM
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failing to get commitment over and over again Aren’t most adult women already partnered, married, and cohabitating? Why are you worried about random women who aren’t worried about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:54 PM
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The fact that even fat, ugly, short girls are demanding muscular, handsome, tall guys is a problem (if that is a fact). People can demand whatever they want, that doesn’t actually make it a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:53 PM
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Who made these league rules?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:52 PM
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How do you know what women can do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:50 PM
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Hahaha, you are so nasty and venomous, foaming at the mouth and similarly responding to every single reply. Yet something must be pathological about me and my responses. Not yours, you’re just having a great day being normal and well adjusted on the internet, but me? Something is certainly wrong with me. The lack of self-awareness is pathetic and hilarious. I’m muting you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:05 PM
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I’m starting to think you wish you hit a nerve, I’m hardly following this thread. Like you said, this doesn’t matter. I hope your day gets better
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:43 PM
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There are people that want to be supported in every aspect of life Why do you care what this hypothetical person wants? Maybe you’re the one that needs to work on your reading comprehension skills
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:27 PM
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Why do you care so much about what that hypothetical person wants? They would never be interested in you, you don’t have anything they’d want. You aren’t in danger of ever being a target of them. Why are you so concerned. Please tell us
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:15 PM
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Haha, I’m a psychopath because I said people enter into mutually beneficial relationships and leave when they are no longer beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:10 PM
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Most relationships aren't explicitly tit for tat, no. But you are giving yourself, your time, your energy, your attention, because you get something out of work, friends, romantic partners. It's not a 1:1 exchange. I've always found it amusing how people think they're stuck with the same friends/friend group forever. It's possible to meet new people and forge new relationships. I've done it in every new city I've lived in. Nothing "just happens" if you're intentional with meeting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 04:36 AM
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Do you think people really wake up and go boy, my partner better be someone who pulls their weight! ❔
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:56 AM
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No one needs to explain to you that you have friends for companionship and fun, partners for love, affection, emotional support, a boss/job for employment and a paycheck/career advancement, etc. Relationships of all kinds are transactional by nature. If your boss stopped giving you your paycheck, you’d no longer go. If your partner gave you no support, love, or affection, you’d probably break up. If your friends weren’t fun and not comrades, you probably wouldn’t have a friendship with them in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:50 AM
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Lots of guys choose to put relationships on a back burner in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 09:36 PM
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I think OPs point is men still talk about 80/20 to this very day, every day, in reference to women’s preferences. It’s nice to see so many men admit how bullshit it actually is, which I think was their point. Low level trolling sure, but this post is doing exactly what OP wanted it to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:27 PM
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All relationships are transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:24 PM
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But that’s the natural conclusion of the 80/20 rule. Most men are unattractive to women and there’s not enough attractive men to go around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:23 PM
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It’s not that women are magically more valuable In her hypothetical, the guy is unattractive with limited options. Start there
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:20 PM
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You show interest in people and they try to relate to you with their own human experience, how terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 02:06 AM
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I tried to validate part of your critique about women’s advice by saying part of it is true and you’re going to criticize me for talking about myself. That’s the last time I try to throw y’all vagabonds a bone. A guy that can’t stop talking about himself is so common that it’s a cultural meme, but go off king!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:44 PM
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If another person has to tell you that you’re fat, unstylish, have a shitty haircut, etc then you’re already hopeless. That’s a broad generalization of the advice women would give. I don’t think it’s accurate, although I do love guys with long hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 10:03 PM
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Women give awful dating advice and men don’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:35 PM
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Guys hear a woman say she likes nice guys ONCE and they assume they can pretend to be a pushover and get a free blowjob. To their utter dismay, pretending to be spineless isn’t attractive and the free blowjob from the pretty girl never comes. They conclude all women are lying slores
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:32 PM
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Bro, if you don’t want to take dating advice from women then don’t. No one is forcing you to. Women are allowed to have their perspective on dating and relationships just like men are. We’re not going to stop talking because you don’t think we give valuable advice. Take advice from men then.
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/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:42 AM
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Your inbox is filled with 1000 likes. Are you supposed to date them all? Sleep with them all? Message them all? What on earth is the average woman even supposed to do with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:38 AM
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And what group is shamelessly throwing matches at any and everyone they can
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 06:33 AM
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And the women who rejected you, did you even like them? Or know them? Or were you casting a wide desperate net?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:26 PM
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The only point I’m trying to make is you do have agency, stop pretending like you don’t. You wouldn’t date a woman with 13 STI’s, would you? Or even 2, how about that? Is that more reasonable for you Agency isn’t the same as getting whatever you want whenever you want. It’s simply the ability to exercise some control over your life. Y’all are so committed to being victims you can’t even entertain the possibility that you don’t have to end up with a terrible partner
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:12 AM
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You answered the hypothetical with a yes, so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:20 AM
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The idea that men will date any woman, even if she had 12 kids, is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:13 AM
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So a random woman can point at you and say “we’re dating, tough shit” and you’ll just comply? Even if she’s a terrible person, unattractive, a nazi, and 12 kids? You have no agency in this situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 01:23 AM
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The comment says relationship effort will be 70-30. I said they don’t have to date people like that. Your reply doesn’t make sense. You’re essentially saying “don’t want to date a woman that doesn’t put effort in? Make your own woman from scratch” and that is absolutely ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:29 PM
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You’re so right. Men have no agency whatsoever. Men are weak, powerless, waiting to be chosen. My bad
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Thank you for your service, comment police
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 02:06 AM
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I'm avoiding confrontation to one person, instigating confrontation to another person. Y'all are confused. Take a breather
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:59 AM
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Damn she really tried it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:56 AM
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What part of engaging with this post (like you) means I'm trying to get under people's skin?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:53 AM
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You tell me boss
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:51 AM
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What makes them orbiters and not you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:46 AM
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I think this is getting to you. You should probably take a break
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:44 AM
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But you’re an expert?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:36 AM
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I’m very honest about what I’m attracted to. It’s even a joke amongst my friends, even the guy ones (who don’t fit the description). They haven’t abandon my friendship yet even though my friends aren’t my type. But… it sounds like maybe you were an orbiter before and you’re bitter about it?
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Your perspective is actually biased towards hopelessness because of your own lived experience. You’re not being more objective here
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:55 AM
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It’s not demeaning unless you’re married to the idea of being powerless. Have you ever asked anyone out before? Typically two people would have chemistry, interest in each other, chat regularly, potentially even flirt with each other before one person asks the other out. Do you think it’s normal to ask out people you barely know who have shown no interest in you? Women don’t need anything written on their forehead for you to talk to them. It’s called body language and social cues… two things you…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:51 AM
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Do you have any experience with relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:19 PM
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Are catholic priests red pill men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:17 PM
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I didn’t say anything about the playing field or fairness, just that you have agency over your own life. Dating apps are picture based. If you’re not attractive in pictures, you probably won’t be successful. You can still ask coworkers out if the feeling is mutual, otherwise you shouldn’t. Yes, women are allowed to decide if they want men bothering them or not in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:07 PM
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Asking men to practice discernment in partner selection is asking them to die alone? Seriously? Most adult men end up married or partnered longterm. People find who they are supposed to be with eventually. Or relationships that work for a period of time until they don’t anymore. Unless you’re hell bent on being miserable and alone thinking that, out of billions of people, there’s not one person that’s suitable for you. Sounds ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:57 PM
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Everyone spends time searching for the right person. But it’s not like winning the lottery because most adults are in relationships while most adults don’t win the lottery. But I see what you’re trying to convey.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:34 PM
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Are you equating consensual mutual romantic relationships with winning the lottery? What an asinine assertion. One thing you actually do have control over, the other one you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:19 PM
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Lack of attention from their partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:54 PM
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You’re right. You are powerless and you don’t have any agency over your own life. No one is coming to save you. Best of luck out there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:52 PM
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I mean this politely - I wasn’t replying to you, I was replying in support of another person’s comment that mentioned equivalencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:45 PM
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You have agency over your own life. You choose the relationships you enter, the partners you have, and the effort you put in. You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to. Try finding a suitable likeminded partner instead of thinking you are powerless over the situation you end up in Edit: Fine, you all have no control over your own lives and you are destined to be in unhappy relationships. Sorry for even mentioning the idea of agency to a bunch of people in love with their victimhood and mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:40 PM
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Of course you can, but it doesn’t make sense to draw false equivalencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:37 PM
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High social status in a low SES environment isn’t much to write home about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:35 PM
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I don’t follow you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:15 PM
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accomplish things and be exceptional Don’t you guys complain every single day about worthless jobless men still getting sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:12 PM
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Don’t forget the murders and manifestos.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:07 PM
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That’s not an accurate portrayal of first wave feminism. Women weren’t concerned with placating the egos of men during the movement, they were literally fighting, being abused, and going to jail for rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:07 PM
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So my point is hobbies are absolutely worthless in dating. Your one singular experience equates to hobbies being absolutely worthless in dating? The reason people suggest hobbies are to 1) hone your social skills, 2) expand your social circle, 3) make you a more interesting and well rounded individual. No one wants to date someone who doesn’t know how to be around people and has no interests whatsoever. Not every bit of advice is meant to be a cheat code to instant sex access from every person y…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 06:13 PM
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Are you sure? Having standards and conditions for romantic relationships is … normal. A guy wouldn’t commit to a woman he found unattractive. A woman wouldn’t commit to a man she found lacking. Love isn’t charity on either side. Children are who you care for unconditionally. Romantic relationships are deliberate intentional pairings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:03 PM
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Ah, that’s helpful! Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:09 AM
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You date men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 05:03 AM
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I’ve formed my opinion from witnessing the drive in so many people over two decades. I’ve also seen the exact opposite. Humans come in all configurations. But, I respect your disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:46 AM
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Honestly, it seems like unfulfilling relationships are more routine than fulfilling ones. People come together and break apart more than they end up together permanently. But, to your point, I agree. You can’t be with someone for just one thing. I don’t think anyone is though, that seems impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:41 AM
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Everything is happening within the culture we’ve always had. I do believe men have some level of innate drive for this, but of course it’s not universal. Just like not all men have high sex drives, or enjoy hookups, or want to be fathers, etc. I don’t think all women or all men are the same, I’m just speaking broadly about a social phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:27 AM
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It’s not a if the situation were reversed thing because it’s a distinctly masculine trait. Men with resources enjoy giving to the women they love, and those women recognizing their worth. Some random songs of men liking that they have resources and can give it: “Anything you want / Anything the world has to offer / I can give you” — Glenn Danzig “I'ma take her bougie ass to Rodeo and then let her pick up whatever she want” — Bryson Tiller “Call me like the one / The one you've been ignorin' / Pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:53 AM
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Can you explain what’s so attractive about dark triad traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:49 PM
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And the men that do have gold get gratification from being valued for their resources and what they can offer. This is inconceivable to the gold-less because they’ve never been in such a position.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:36 PM
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Unless they are developmentally disabled in some way, most adult men have enough cognitive capacity to avoid being manipulated like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 09:33 PM
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I mean this in the nicest way possible - you’re reading way too much into my reply. I’m not insulting you or even arguing with you. Nor do I intend to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:16 PM
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Speak for yourself, I have never engaged in hookups with Chads, or casual sex in general. It has never appealed to me in any way. There is nothing even remotely safe or fun about sleeping with men who don’t like or care for me and the fact that any woman does this with any regularity is beyond bizarre to me. But, what I do know is very attractive men who are solely seeking casual sex exist. And women fall for it. What you’re not being honest about is a lot of these men pretend to be relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:49 PM
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That’s not how the app is designed to work therefore such usage causes unintended consequences. Users are supposed to swipe on people they are interested in, period. Men think they need to game the system and on a micro-level maybe that makes sense. But it doesn’t make sense on the macro-level. As a result, it completely ruins the experience for all men on the dating app. Here’s why: A random woman on Tinder can have 500-1000 likes in 24 hours. Who are these likes coming from? Random guys like y…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 09:44 PM
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What a deal! I'm not a fun guy who's "meant" for short term fun This is a constant conundrum for guys here. You want to have casual hookup sex, but your entire dating strategy is pretending to be a harmless good guy looking for a relationship. You pretend to be one thing, get treated like said thing, then get angry you’re not being treated like a gigachad sex god. Have you inspired desire in anyone? Have you ever been honest about your intentions? No and no.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:33 PM
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You’re basing your entire worldview off one interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 04:22 PM
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That’s not some comprehensive report of every single person that’s ever made a fake dating profile. It’s just a snapshot of a phenomenon I’ve seen men admit to every other day on this site. For every person that admits it online there’s probably 100 others who don’t, but who can say for certain. You can argue it isn’t doing any significant harm all you want. You can continue to believe it’s just a coincidence you’re ghosted more often than not, or have profiles that never respond.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:58 AM
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I don’t have any conclusive figures to report, I just believe one behavior has more consequences than the other. The behaviors you describe are so abstract and meaningless. Someone using an app for an ego boost, even men can do that. Someone using an app for clout, how does that impact you? https://www.google.com/search?q=created+profile+as+a+woman+reddit https://www.google.com/search?q=created+fake+woman+profile+reddit Weird stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:24 AM
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Contemplate the impact of a random woman using a dating app for an ego boost. Not much, is there? Ask yourself how many women are actually using dating apps for free shit. You can’t guys even get a match, who is trying to get free shit out of you?Now, women using apps for clout… what does that even mean? They have a profile with their social media handle in it? Whoa, that sure is ruining the app. Men also have poor conversation skills, abysmal profiles, and swipe on women leagues above them. Wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:05 AM
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Women are vastly outnumbered by men and hardly match or interact with them. There are certainly some bad actors but women aren’t the reason why guys are having a bad time on the apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:53 AM
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At least some of you are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:05 AM
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The platform itself
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:49 AM
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That’s why I have it
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:51 PM
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Honestly, men are partially responsible for OLD sucking for men. Swiping right on nearly all women indiscriminately? Making fake profiles for experiments? Making profiles pretending to be women in order to scam your fellow brethren? Nasty work
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:34 PM
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I’m literally going by the posts and comments I see, not my imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:28 PM
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That comment wasn’t directed towards you. Having a bit of fun with someone else on your post doesn’t mean you have to get bent out of shape. https://www.google.com/search?q=created+profile+as+a+woman+reddit I did a quick Google search for you, but I’ve seen many more individual comments than outright posts. I don’t think I can meet your geographical conditions because I’m not doing work for you. Have a swell day
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:11 PM
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Keep convos on the app until you've actually met them. That way, you can report them and protect other ladies from bad actors.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:11 PM
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I've made the exact same observation. Every single day I see a post or comment from some guy who created a woman's profile. Men are so disillusioned with dating apps and it's all because they're catfishing and ghosting each other 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:10 PM
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These guys hoop and holler about betabux, women forcing relationships, yada yada ya, as if they are in ANY danger of it ever happening to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:05 PM
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my point was that everybody cares what people in their vicinity and larger society think of them to some extent, even if they pretend not to. I don't care what random men who I'm not even interested in think of me. This is just so untrue. Whenever you see some super rich guy with a yacht, how old are the girls he has with him on the boat? In their 40s or in their 20s? Look up the world's richest 100 men and look up their wives. Do your own homework. That women are most attractive when they are i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:19 AM
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If every time this woman stepped outside, she overheard people saying stuff like 'ew look how ugly she is' it would definitely have an effect on her self esteem. Do you think this happens to anyone with any regularity? Genuinely? Just because you dated less successful men when you were younger doesn't mean you didn't have greater potential to date even more successful men that you do now You're missing the point where I say the people I date now have nothing in common with 20 year olds. People e…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:54 AM
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You talk about SMV as if I exist as a product men actually get to weigh in on and add/take away value from. I don't exist to you, I don't exist to 99.999999999% of the male population. The overwhelming majority of men have absolutely no concept of me, no influence on my perceived value, and no influence on my romantic relationships. Not even in the slightest amount. and 99% of men are going to find a woman hotter when she is 22 year old than at 40. And the only man that matters in this hypotheti…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:05 AM
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Who were you trying to date when you were 20 years old? Not other 20 year olds? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:16 AM
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Are the women guys like at 20 the same women guys like at 35? Fuck yeah they are! I’d rather smash a testicle than date 20 year old women So, you don't like the same women you liked at 20 then?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:03 AM
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The 80/20 rule is an extrapolation from terribly misquoted and misunderstood Okcupid data from the mid 2000s. By 30, most men are married or partnered. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:53 AM
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So, you’re 35 years old and you want to have date nights on frat row, playing beer pong, and eating at a dining hall with your 20 year old girlfriend and her 20 year old friends? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:40 AM
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Are the women guys like at 20 the same women guys like at 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:55 PM
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I don’t agree with it, that’s red pill ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:43 PM
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I thought the only men successful with multiple women were the top 20% of men though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:18 PM
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Be honest with yourself, are there any women actually trying to trap you into being a husband and father right now? Any at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:35 PM
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95% of men are being disqualified from any kind of relationship with a non obese chick & that’s really the crux of this. Bro, 60-65% of adult men are literally partnered or married. What are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 09:33 PM
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Do you think this principle applies to men at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:22 PM
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I understand the principle and appreciate the explanation. Recent data shows nearly 70% of women are married or partnered. How ‘fried’ can their preceptors be if they still end up in committed relationships? The idea that large groups of women are sharing a few attractive men isn’t an accurate representation of the majority. There is certainly a subset of casually sexually active individuals, but this is not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 07:08 PM
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Is there any data to suggest this principle applies to human relationships? Has it been studied as such?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 06:39 PM
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Is there even a shred of scientific data to support your second paragraph? Because it sounds like wild conjecture, at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:21 PM
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Again, not impossible if it’s important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 07:10 PM
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It only takes 1 person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:19 PM
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I’m responding to your pretend comment by saying you don’t have to pretend. Relationships end, it’s part of life. Who is saying you have to pretend?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:15 PM
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Sounds like you’re smart enough to know how to protect your assets so it’s not a terrible financial deal. Maybe you can also marry someone who out earns you, has more resources? Your dating pool, which I’m imaging is between 25 - 54, has labor force participation of ~75%. For the nation as a whole, the labor force participation rate for women was 56.8 percent in 2022. The age groups of 25 to 34 years, 35 to 44 years, and 45 to 54 years all had participation rates above 75.0 percent, with 25 to 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 05:07 PM
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There’s different types of love. Romantic love can last forever even if a couple splits. Not every relationship is meant to be eternal, and sometimes things end. That doesn’t mean love isn’t a worthy pursuit, even marriage. It’s okay to be hopeful during the one single solitary life you’re given on earth. It’s also okay to avoid love if that’s what keeps you safe and happy. Do whatever you want
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:55 PM
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Most men don’t have any assets to be financially destroyed over marriage and most women work. Do you, yourself, have any assets anyone could take from you if you got divorced tomorrrow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:53 PM
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Marriage signals status for men in most careers and professions, not just presidential office. That’s fair that weddings gross you out. I know of guys that have fun at weddings and had fun at their own, even. Re: cultural relativism, god forbid someone compare their beliefs to other customs
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:52 PM
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I’m sad to hear you don’t think you can find a partner that will love you forever. That must feel crummy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:06 PM
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A woman wants to call the man she loves her husband, oh the horror
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:52 PM
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Weddings are a blast, they’re a celebration of love, who wouldn’t want to do that with the love of their life? Also, men gain significant status from having wives as well. Has there ever been a single president? Men and women alike would find even the thought of that unsettling. Marriage represents responsibility, conformity, commitment, not all of those necessarily positives. Marriage is a cultural thing that many people choose to participate in, or don’t. And it’s funny you say women are livin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:51 PM
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What is contained in the sexual market value calculation and who determines it? Would it be conceivable that different men value different things in women, thus I may have a different score depending on who I come across? Someone may be aligned with everything I have to offer and think I’m a 9, someone may find me unattractive, overeducated, too politically incompatible, and rate me a 4. Who do you think matters more in this equation? The man that doesn’t value me or the man that does? SMV is a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 09:07 AM
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The threat of plummeting SMV hinges on the idea that being sexually desirable to as many men as humanly possible is a woman’s goal. It’s quality, not quantity, and as I’ve gotten older the quality of my romantic partners + interactions have gone up significantly. Am I being preyed upon like 20 year old college girls? No. Do I want to be? No. Everyone wins
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:04 AM
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I think this entire premise is wrong. I “settled” in my teens and 20s when I didn’t know any better. My preferences are more refined and stringent than ever before and I think most women are like this. We don’t become lax and tolerate more bullshit as we get older. It’s the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:46 PM
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I’m letting you know I’m more open to chatting with people at an actual social event and less inclined to at the grocery store while I’m buying pads. Do with that what you will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:05 AM
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What's the main goal? Dates, hookups, girlfriend, wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 09:42 PM
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You'd be happy to date emotionally disturbed women who bareback horsefaced meth heads. Think about this again nephew.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 08:37 PM
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You again. Has it worked for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 07:39 PM
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Height aside, is this guy physically attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 06:38 PM
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That’s interesting. Where did I say I run from discomforting information? And where did I say I was upholding any particular worldview? Do you usually make such gigantic leaps of judgment? You’re not intellectually superior because you watch TikToks about women ranting about dating. In fact, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:35 PM
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A meth head has options, are all options good options? Because who would date a meth head and do you think that’s someone you’d want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:27 PM
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I’m fascinated with how you’re conflating consuming angsty women content with watching the news or reading research publications, lol. Yes, people can ask you why you consume such media. You can refuse to answer or deflect, but I guess that’s something for you to ponder on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:20 PM
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Actually, I’m only pointing out that you consume such content and how curious it is. At this point, I’m not questioning it’s existence, just your relationship to it. You’re projecting the idea that I’m acting like a hysterical ostrich which is funny, I’ll admit. But that’s not the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:09 PM
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You’re being pedantic. “The fact that” is a colloquial term, I’m clearly expressing my personal thoughts and opinions. I’m not sure if you’re genuinely curious, I think you’re replying in bad faith. However, social gatherings are inherently social. Interaction with strangers is anticipated. Most people would feel more comfortable talking to a stranger at a funeral vs someone randomly approaching them at a street corner or bus stop. Again, just thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:38 PM
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And you consume it because it supports your worldview, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:12 PM
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It’s weird how you consume this particular content and I’ve never even seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:38 PM
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Most people aren’t attracted to or compatible with most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:37 PM
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You’re so close to getting the fact that socially appropriate circumstances make chatting with strangers ideal! So close!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:33 PM
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Who is doing any of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:31 PM
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By all means, continue unsuccessfully approaching strangers and getting rejected by a method that doesn’t work for you. No one is stopping you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:26 PM
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What type of women were dating the meth dealer that impregnated 11 (🙄) people? And would you want to date them yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 12:10 PM
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Championed? Championed? Women get flamed every single day on Reddit for their preferences. Where have you been
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:32 PM
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I guess women are visual creatures!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:29 PM
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How else in the world would they have gathered this information?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 04:34 PM
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Hahaha nope, that’s all
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:29 PM
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Lmao you’re pretending to be offended on behalf of community college students, that’s so sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:19 PM
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And you don’t engage with what people are saying to you, lol. I’m not advocating for any strategy by saying people connect at different rates. That genuinely has nothing to do with lacking sexual boundaries. What does having ‘appropriate sexual boundaries’ mean to you? What is the appropriate timeline for intimacy to occur in a romantic relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:42 PM
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How do I not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:21 PM
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Why do you keep insisting I lack sexual boundaries? What random archetype are you projecting onto me? I don’t sleep with people I’m not in a serious relationship with so you’re addressing your weirdness towards the wrong person. I went to community college for a few semesters, where do you think I met so many LoGiCaL aRgUmeNt bros?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 08:21 PM
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A small subset? In my decades of dating experience, I’ve watched the mask drop so many times that I know waiting to be foolproof. I know there’s some hopeful revenge fantasy that a guy will slip through the cracks, pretend to be a good guy, get the goods, and split, but it never happens that way. I’m sorry to disappoint. Most men are not the masterful manipulators they think they are, and men who only want sex are impatient and pushy. I also see the idea that a high value man will leave if he is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:42 PM
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I’m not trying to ‘discredit’ you because I don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re conflating connection with lack of boundaries and it’s the most nonsensical assertion. It doesn’t make sense. It’s not about standards. Meeting a friend and connecting with them quickly vs meeting a friend and developing a relationship more slowly has nothing to do with standards or boundaries. Relationships progress at different intervals because human beings aren’t robots Who said anything about being ‘tol…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 06:28 PM
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Lmfao, someone took practical argument 101 at their community college and now they’re antagonizing the internet trying to feel intellectually superior. Good grief
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 04:05 PM
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Why do you think you need to explain what boundaries are to me? And why do you keep insisting connection must mean a ‘lack of boundaries’? No one has said that. You can feel comfortable with someone and still have boundaries and self respect. It’s not an either/or situation. I think you’re hellbent on conflating connection with a lack of boundaries for some reason, it’s odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:53 PM
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I’m not entirely sure what you’re advising. I’m stating this isn’t a matter of boundaries, but connection. I do appreciate the life lesson, but I can assure you I have solid boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:27 PM
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Inconsistent boundaries? Chemistry and attraction vary depending on the connection. Some people you’re comfortable with right away, some people require getting to know for a longer period of time. It’s that way with friendships and romantic relationships. There’s nothing abnormal about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:10 PM
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because they want to be together with the guy for as long as possible even if he'll turn out to be a pump-and-dumper? The mask always drops for these guys. If pumping and dumping is their game, they are courting as many women as possible. You’ll notice their inconsistency, their lack of emotional availability, and you’ll move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 03:02 PM
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I’m not coping, I’m not one. My ex was a late bloomer and he was awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:45 AM
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There’s nothing wrong with being a late bloomer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 02:48 PM
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This is fascinating considering nutritional deficiencies from shit diets are on the rise. Now people will be eating even less instead of just learning how to eat correctly. I wonder what that’s going to look like in a decade
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:19 PM
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At least every man on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 03:12 PM
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Oh no, not another boy engaging from a place of absolute emotional dysregulation who thinks he’s the logical one in the equation. There truly is no original experiences on PPD, you guys are carbon copies of each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:55 PM
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Wow, you’ve got me all figured out! You must be a very smart boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 06:20 PM
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You: Yeah we’re done. Also You: Proceeds to continue diatribe too cute
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:43 PM
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You literally said women are blind to 80% of men. I asked why the fuck is any random woman obligated to witness or engage 80% of men in the first place. You have no response.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:35 PM
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You never answered the question here. But somehow I’m the problem because strangers don’t care about strangers. Ask yourself why you think single solitary women need to pay service to 80% of men they don’t even know like it’s their job. YOU don’t even care about random men, or random women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:16 PM
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I want you to think about the people you interact with on a daily basis. Do you give a single solitary shit about 95% of the people you see? No. No one does. This idea that women need to CARE about 80% of men when no one cares about the majority of people that exist besides their own friends/family/coworkers/intimate circle is just deranged.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 05:05 PM
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Haha, that’s my real point. I don’t believe most men are actually attracted to most women, but the guys here like to say they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 04:19 PM
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Men are majorly responsible for a lot of the issues in modern dating? Well, when you put it that way, I guess I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:07 PM
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Them: Men are attracted to most women! Men: attracted to most women Them: No, not like that!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:01 PM
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Thank you darling :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:10 PM
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I’m in my 30s. All of the successful men I’ve dated have also been some of the most kind and sweet. The worst guys I have ever dated have been broke. Most women will say the exact same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 08:09 PM
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Sexual options? 50% Somewhat easily find a new partner or have multiple partners? 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:28 PM
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Do you like my new flair?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:25 PM
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Haha, you don’t need to win the lottery. Just make $200K/year and get really good at making restaurant reservations
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:07 PM
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a real thinker right here. You win!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 04:00 PM
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I think a lot of women believe they aren’t allowed to want more. Wanting a partner with job stability sounds acceptable so that’s what they feel okay to desire. If my partner lost his job I would still love him. I chose him and I committed to him for a reason, he’s special to me and not replaceable. Will I hope that he gets a new one? Certainly. The type of person I’d fall in love with would also want to get another job for their own sake. Being unemployed is a struggle. I have one life on earth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:57 PM
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Entitled princess, I like the sound of that. Thanks for the endearing nickname
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:42 PM
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I’m happy to answer this honestly — so we can have the same lifestyle with no fear or fuss. Anytime I date a guy, he eats literally 3-4x the amount of groceries I do. Going out to eat is now 2-3x more expensive, travel is 2x more expensive, hobbies, etc. Plus, I refuse to live with a partner in anything less than a massive apartment or house. We will need to upgrade. My last partner and I lived in a 1br apartment in NYC. I said never again, we upgraded to a three bedroom apartment and we both ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:34 PM
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I already have these things for myself. Why would I want to slide back in lifestyle?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 01:09 PM
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Oh, we do care. Don’t worry
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:36 AM
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The midnight musings of a man with no status.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:34 AM
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It’s possible some portion of that 35% are dating men who consider themselves unattached, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 07:55 PM
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I don’t know if you’ve ever met a man before, but plenty of men consider themselves unattached while in situationships or dating around while women consider themselves attached in those situations. That can account for the rate of young men who reported singleness. Doesn’t mean they aren’t involved with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:26 PM
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Women are surrounded by “options for sexual exploration” — who do those options happen to be? Of all the couples I know, the boyfriends had to be convinced to settle down. Men think they need to achieve material success before marriage. Guys date casually in their 20s before actually wanting to settle down too. This isn’t an experience unique to women. Are you saying you wanted to be a married father at 22? Providing for a pregnant/child rearing wife? Probs not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 11:38 AM
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A lot of women are dating in their social circles, schools, places of work, communities etc. What is this mythical idea women are chasing “top percentage” men? Those men have insular social networks and are usually surrounded by people of similar social standing. And, as a group, the top 1-5% are more likely to be married. The idea that rich men are eternal bachelors is demonstrably false, they are more married than everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:59 PM
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I thought men were attracted to the majority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:48 PM
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You can’t say that definitively.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:22 PM
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People are single in their 20s and settle down by 30. None of this is unusual
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:21 PM
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Most adult men aren’t this yet most adult men are married and/or partnered by 30. Make it make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:31 PM
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It all boils down to chemistry, connection, and attraction. Either you have that with someone or you don’t. Just because you don’t have it with one person doesn’t mean you won’t have it with another. Extremely attractive people light up a person’s brain. Most human beings aren’t attractive celebrities so it doesn’t make sense to compare yourself to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:59 PM
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To pass the time, I imagine. I have a theory that some folks end up in lukewarm relationships with people they aren’t in love with and then become anti-marriage philosophers as a way to rationalize their lack of feelings. Still fleshing it out though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:13 PM
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Traditions change, no? Even atheists get married. It’s about commitment and romance to some people
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:05 PM
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Have you ever had a longterm relationship with someone you didn’t feel that strongly for/didn’t particularly like all that much?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 05:02 PM
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While not being remotely good looking himself?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:40 PM
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Take into digestion, lol. I wouldn’t be interested in committing to a stranger either. Those aren’t the only two options.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 02:25 PM
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Great, date people who align with your beliefs and leave everyone else alone. For many people, there is nothing even remotely fun about having sex with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:36 PM
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Taking things slowly is a must Except for when it comes to sex. According to you, women should just rush into that headfirst with men they barely know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 12:11 PM
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Yes, it is outlandish. Poor women, I hope they gain some self-esteem soon
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:59 AM
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Do you have low self-worth and think everyone else must have it too? Because I’m concerned at the fact that this is unfathomable to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:52 AM
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Thank you. The guys here seem to think being aloof is a cheat code. Maybe to women who equate ambivalence with excitement? Nothing is more uninteresting than a man who doesn’t like me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:38 AM
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Are you kidding? What is appealing about a human being that has no interest in you? I can’t think of anything more boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:35 AM
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Right, I’m cracking up over here. I’m so successful! That’s why I bitch about women 24/7 on the internet!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 03:00 AM
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It still worked… to find quality connections? Or it worked to sleep with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:57 AM
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That’s so funny to me. The second a guy acts aloof I literally block them. Nearly immediately
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 02:23 AM
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What was the advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:00 AM
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What exact advice worked for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 12:00 AM
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Do the men on PPD seem even remotely successful in dating/relationships to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:40 PM
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I see this sentiment nearly every day on Reddit. Don’t take advice from women, repeat x infinity. Okay, we get it. So just take advice from men then, how is that going for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:22 PM
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Right, OP needs to stay in his lane! I know an old coworker who goes 50/50 with her partner who makes 3x her salary, she buys him gifts and vacations while he gets her nothing. I have a recent coworker who has been the breadwinner in her relationship for like 7 years while her boyfriend smokes weed and plays video games all day, and she’s happy. There are plenty of women with standards below the earth’s crust, WHY are they focusing anywhere else?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:45 PM
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So glad I’ve got the help of someone with superior intellect and true vision to tell me how things really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:35 PM
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Is that actually a problem though. Why are you listening to those type of women? Unless you actively seek to listen to and be mad at their opinions I don’t think it affects you at all
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 02:34 PM
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Haha, I love how you’re telling me what perspective I should have, and it’s coincidentally the one you’ve formed from your own thoughts and experiences. Why can’t these types of women date compatible men and OP date women with no expectations? There’s plenty of ‘em
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 07:14 AM
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You do know that human beings have different dietary needs based on genetics? Some bodies thrive eating higher carb, some thrive eating lower carb. Some people have to avoid sugars due to diabetes. Some people have to avoid fats due to gallbladder issues. Some people even have a sensitivity to fibrous vegetables, some have trouble breaking down protein due to kidney issues. Let people figure out what works for them instead of thinking everyone needs to do things your way or else they're somehow …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:35 AM
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-advocates for chivalry or traditional stuff You're a red pill man but you want to date gender role destroying feminists, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:23 AM
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Ha! Same here. The second I find out someone is allergic to cats and/or doesn't like them, I cut my losses. No one is worth that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:21 AM
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Do I win? 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:19 AM
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That's not entirely accurate. You can have a whole foods focused version of any diet. A vegan diet can be comprised of fresh vegetables, fruits, legumes, and whole grains, or it can be filled with oreos and french fries. A keto diet can be comprised of bacon and processed cheese, or it can be filled with lean proteins, salads, fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, and so many other things that are healthy and not processed. Vegan and keto have various executions, they are not absolute, they exist as …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 06:18 AM
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Sometimes looks okay but I strongly prefer clean shaven 🥺
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 01:54 AM
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I hate them too, so much so that I damn near loose my mind when I finally meet a clean shaven guy lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 12:12 AM
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Exactly, guys get a little money and the first thing they try to do is impress women with it. As the age old saying goes — the only men worried about gold diggers are men with no gold. The only men worried about being “used” as a provider are men who have NOTHING to provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:44 PM
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Exactly this. OP is bitching about materialistic women as if he will ever be in danger of dating one. They probably avoid OP and guys like him like the plague, so why is he so fixated on women that don’t want him?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:16 PM
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If there’s a dude that wants to buy his girlfriend a new Gucci bag every month and a girl that wants said dude, why does it matter? Consenting adult relationships can look like many different things. Materialistic people can and should date each other. Who cares
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:10 PM
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I know I need help 😩
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 10:04 PM
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Processed foods have obesogenic, endocrine disrupting, and inflammatory industrial chemicals added to nearly all of it. It makes sense to want to eat healthy and cleaner, especially if there’s kids involved. Men consider this annoying and nagging, then they get high cholesterol and die of a heart attack in their 50s. She just wants you to live longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:09 PM
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My most arbitrary and admittedly batshit insane deal-breaker is a guy having a red beard. Full redheads are very attractive, but if someone has blonde/black/brown hair with a red beard I feel sick. I have no idea why, it’s a visceral level of repulsion I have no control over. A close second is just beards in general. I find them so unattractive and it makes me sad they’re so popular or considered “makeup for men.” I think they ruin faces and swipe left on every bearded profile I see if there’s n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 03:04 PM
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Aww, your poor wife. I couldn’t imagine wanting to try new diets, learn about different ways of eating, and the one person who is supposed to love me more than anything finding it “annoying.” That’s so sad. Anytime I wanted to try a different way of eating, my fiancé would be excited and he’d cook all the dishes like it was a special project lol. It was so loving and sweet.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:53 PM
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You can recognize that police protection orders don't always protect women. And women who have gone to the police about their abusive partners still end up being murdered, protective order and all. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18523113/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:50 PM
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Women have proof plenty of time, often it’s not as egregious as an AirTag in the vehicle, but things like excessive messaging, threats, unwanted physical proximity, etc. What happened after your friend reported the AirTag?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:04 PM
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A woman is getting stalked by her ex boyfriend. The police don’t give a shit until she’s dead. Widespread issue
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:07 PM
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I can tell booski
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:33 PM
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You talk to so many women you have to put them in boxes. Maybe you’re the promiscuous one in the equation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 01:01 PM
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Ah, so you intentionally seek out promiscuous women to chat with. That’s your own prerogative homie
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:57 PM
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Like what kind of information?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:54 PM
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Exactly, chatting for sometime nets you virtually zero info about their sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:41 PM
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Unless you’re observing them in the wild like Steve Irwin you probably don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:40 PM
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99% of women will toss her standards, morals, rules, yadda yadda right out the fucking window for damn near any moron as long as he's **big hot**. You're saying that very attractive people are treated differently. That's not revolutionary and both sexes exhibit the same behavior towards very attractive people. and giving truly dogshit advice to men seeking answers about dating Have you found advice that actually works from anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 02:30 PM
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Flirting seems cheesy and disingenuous. I’d rather have a genuine conversation and go from there
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:28 AM
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I’m just living my life. Not really concerned with making sure the hundreds of strangers in my vicinity feel known and seen
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 12:28 AM
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It sounds like you're in good shape minus the 3 year dating hiatus (was that by choice?). Honestly, I don't find flirting attractive at all. I can't be the only woman that doesn't like it. If I met a guy that had no flirting skills I'd be elated.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:57 PM
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I'm sorry it's a bummer. Have you ever dated or had a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:35 PM
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Correction: In a state of horniness and desperation, men find most women fuckable (but not necessarily attractive). That doesn't mean they respect them, like them, would commit to them, nothing. Women are picky as they should be. The cost of mating and reproduction are significantly higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 11:29 PM
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99% of women won't even acknowledge your existence Most people aren’t preoccupied with strangers. Why do guys like you think random women who you don’t know and have no association with should care you exist? Do you care about random men you don’t know? Or women you don’t find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:00 PM
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Most men won’t experience a romantic relationship? That’s not congruent with reality. By 30, most adults are partnered or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:31 AM
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Lol nice try with whatever that was
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 07:28 AM
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Romantic attraction is supposed to be unique. A single woman shouldn’t be attracted to most men who exist, that doesn’t even make sense. People have varying cultures, values, preferences shaped by their environment. The expectation that women should be sexually interested in most men doesn’t exist anywhere in nature. Women are simply sexually selective as a protective biological mechanism (the cost of mating and reproduction are disproportionately high). Would you rather your connection and attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:06 AM
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Haha, you sure showed me alright… by not making any sense. Good job dear
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:17 AM
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I am being sarcastic. I’d say the absence of love and sex actually atrophies part of their brains, but that’s just me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 02:12 AM
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I’m not trying to insult you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:38 PM
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What matters more, your lived experience or randoms online rating you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 07:12 PM
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Ah, I see
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:32 PM
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The funny thing is women say kill all men, but men actually do kill women. Way more than women kill men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 03:31 PM
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Are men miserable too? Or just all women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:43 PM
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That's like saying losers or bums don't need to work on themselves to attract a partner when both you and I know that's not true. That's exactly my point. I've known plenty of losers and bums with hot wonderful girlfriends they didn't deserve. People find what they want. Women who want provider men do appreciate them, that's why they want them in the first place. Those very women can still have careers, I'm speaking from lived experience. Again, people enter into dynamics that work for them. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:39 PM
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I would genuinely rather a woman be direct and tell me I'm too poor to date her Women avoid being direct because bruised egos can lead to their murder. So, pleasantries and self-reflection is all you get. I don't think transactional is a bad word. I think all relationships are transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:33 PM
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boy what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:30 PM
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The problem is some girls think they deserve way more than what they do. On an individual level, why wouldn't someone try to get the best partner they can? They don't owe it to you to be practical, or set their expectations to what you arbitrarily think they deserve. It's fascinating you guys fixate so much on other people and their wants. In life, some people actually get more than they deserve. And some people get less.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:30 PM
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I'm just saying: if you want a traditional man, you need to be a traditional woman. You believe this is some rule written in stone, but that doesn't translate into the real world. Provider men marry modern women all the time, yes, educated women with careers. No one needs to "be" anything, they can still find whatever works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:27 PM
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Ha, I see the sentiment that women are all abusive manipulators literally every day. But okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:18 PM
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Oh okay, so women should mutter "I want a transactional relationship" and then continue on with their lives. That will make him happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:17 PM
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The problem only begins when women want traditional providers without being traditional wives. Who is this a problem for exactly? You aren't a traditional provider and you aren't the target of those women. Why do their preferences matter to you? You aren't even in this equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:13 PM
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You're smart enough to recognize that some women are more vulnerable to abuse due to their upbringing, the relationships that were modeled for them in their youth, and other circumstances. Certain women leave after the first red flag, and to others, those red flags feel like home. Abusers have the most culpability here. Anyways take care
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:12 PM
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Find a woman who you represent 'more' to?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:58 PM
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They exhibit signs way before they become actually abusive to their partners. Women see signs everywhere in life except in their partners Great, so you admit that abuse doesn't start immediately. Yes, the signs are detectable to certain people and overlooked by others who are naive, have a history of familial abuse, self-esteem issues, etc. The abuser is in the wrong, let's keep perspective. they don't admit it and would rather break their backs lying than admit it. Who do 'they' need to admit a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:55 PM
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Most women have their own resources and are looking for equal partners. Some women want provider partners while they are housewives. What do you have to offer that would make a woman choose you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:50 PM
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Again, because more than one thing can matter at once. No romantic partner is going to love you unconditionally like your mother, darling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:43 PM
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They know better due to their superior logic and intellect... which has not been polluted by the gratification of love and sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:36 PM
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Haha, you're a street walker if you want a partner who can support and contribute to the family. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:33 PM
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Where the average woman is 5’4 @ 175 but would die before accepting her looks / life match. Who is her looks / life match and why are you the one to decide?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:31 PM
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Just because the guy has sex with you doesnt mean he wants a relationship. If you want commitment then in most situations you are not some overpowered deserving woman on dates with the guy she wants. Just a delusional fool thats being played by a guy that never wants to commit. Have you not seen the research that shows women are hooking up less and less? Women are putting commitment and relationships of substance before sex. It's a turning tide.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:30 PM
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Taking care of yourself and your life is not 'changing yourself' for other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:27 PM
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If you aren't able to date someone attractive, then you are overestimating your own attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:25 PM
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lie, mislead, ommit and in some situations gaslight men into thinking that their choices aren't purely based on raw attraction Attraction is one piece of the puzzle, and it matters in varying degrees depending on the person. women justifying why they dated that abusive hot guy when it was clear from the start that they were abusive. Do you know literally anything about intimate partner violence? Abusers are never abusive from the start. They are charming and charismatic, then abuse starts. they …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:22 PM
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Is it any different than the guys who have no experience dating, no past relationships, no sexual past, no social relationships thinking they know EVERYTHING about sex, dating, relationships, and women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:17 PM
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You don't think multiple things can matter at once?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 01:15 PM
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It’s always the people who have the least amount of success in love, relationships, and dating that think they know the most. It’s pathological, wouldn’t you agree?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:29 PM
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I think we live on two different planets. The idea that men are naturally empathetic and compassionate towards women is not congruent with reality. Men are responsible for the abuse, rape, oppression, and subjugation of women across the world. You’re right, women are sympathetic towards other women because they share an oppressor. Men’s problems are solely men’s problems because women’s problems include men. Women live in fear of men on planet earth. Women can’t even walk alone at night for fear…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:23 PM
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That’s awesome, you are doing about 100% more than the average person. Perhaps the tone you’re picking up on is my general annoyance with the idea that women are responsible for the male loneliness epidemic in any way. I’m not trying to be dismissive. I wonder why women are expected to have compassion for men when humans, in general, don’t particularly concern themselves with others they aren’t connected to in some way. It’s fair to expect compassion from family, friends, associates, but for ran…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:52 AM
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You can do whatever you want, hoss. I don’t think anyone cares
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:44 AM
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This isn't about a gender war. Men can and should mobilize efforts to improve their situation instead of waiting around for women to do it, or for a romantic partner to save them. It's not callous to point out the present day inaction. I've been a suicide hotline volunteer for 3 years. The majority of the people that volunteer for my organization are... women. Who do you think we talk to? What kind of community-building efforts are part of your life?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:02 AM
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You're just going to ignore childbirth and subsequent complications, career stagnation, unpaid domestic labor, and emotional labor huh? Sir, you can go up to 100 women and 97 of them will have been victimized in some way by a bad man. Women have to consider their safety in relation to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:55 AM
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Would you agree that the responsibility lies on men to mobilize these efforts?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 02:48 AM
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Men really don’t need much to be happy, yet they have a really hard time creating that for themselves — record unhappiness, loneliness epidemic and all that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 12:41 AM
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Oh okay. So the proximity to intimate partner violence, childbirth, career stagnation, and the many other things that affect women disproportionately in a heterosexual relationship are just made up. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:46 PM
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The non-monetary costs associated with dating are much higher for women. The fact that a guy can’t cover a date for the potential mother of his children is ghastly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 10:09 PM
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You are not bad looking at all. I’m certain you probably look better than 90% of the people here.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 08:17 PM
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Are you any level of rich? Or successful? Or just generally doing well for yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 07:11 PM
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You’re asking how someone can get a girl like that. The answer is you can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:53 PM
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They could find those same qualities in someone who has money and can enhance their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:42 PM
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Old pictures are not helpful sir
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:41 PM
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What do you have to offer a hot woman that everyone wants?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:32 PM
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Bro, you are attractive. But it looks like you don’t care about your appearance all that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:26 PM
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If the only thing you value is access to sex then yes, this seems like a privilege. In reality, being sexually desired doesn’t afford you safety, respect, commitment, love, affection, all it means is some random dudes are willing to have sex with you. What a joy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:24 PM
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That’s a great point. I grew up watching my father love to take my mom on dates. He adores her. They have complimentary love languages and it’s very sweet. I’m sure you can recognize “having your food paid for” isn’t what makes something romantic, otherwise I might also have some confusing thoughts about work pizza parties too, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 06:19 PM
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Women have a biologically lower sex drive and different mechanisms for desire. You can’t expect women and men to be equals in that regard, we simply aren’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:29 PM
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That’s sweet of him
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:28 PM
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I don’t think this is accurate. Most women don’t have their area set that high.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:26 PM
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It’s becoming quite apparent the only thing a lot of men value in life is their access to sex. You could be treated like a walking penis if you inspired such desirability in women. I’ve known plenty of manwhores in my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:25 PM
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Bro, did you just wake up and choose projection? Asking why something happens is the act of implicitly agreeing that it does happen, so that was literally your answer. The actual reason is because the risks associated with mating and sexual reproduction for men are low. Men are less sexually selective as a result. The risks associate with mating and sexual reproduction with women are HIGH, therefore women are the more selective sex. This sexual selectivity is replicated all throughout the animal…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:22 PM
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And why do women get more attention and easy sex? Whose fault is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:02 PM
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You said unattractive women get treated better than attractive men which is demonstrably false, yet I’m disingenuous. Yeah okay buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 04:00 PM
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Correct, dating is a combination of personality and compatibility. You cannot glean any of that from a dating app. The only thing you have is someone’s photos. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Otherwise, you’ve got things like clear skin, nice white teeth, facial symmetry, flattering haircuts, well-fitting clothing, meticulously groomed facial hair or clean shaven, clear bright photos, photos that aren’t in the front seat of a car, or in a dirty mirror, or in a horrendously filthy bathroom.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:57 PM
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Random people want to use them like a fleshlight then discard them. That’s how you want people to treat you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:41 PM
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Dating apps are explicitly shallow. They revolve around pictures and selecting people based on attractiveness. Why would someone who is unattractive on a looks based dating app receive a free chance when they don’t meet the single criteria those apps use? And why do you associate unattractive = good. Unattractive people can be equally as shitty as anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:37 PM
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I mean, that is cheap. Even friends treat each other every once in a while. You expect your partner to be a 50/50 mate you get to have sex with. How romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:30 PM
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A lot of men want to do nice things for women they find pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:29 PM
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Why do unattractive men feel so entitled to be treated like attractive men when they aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/24 03:25 PM
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These aren’t exactly research sources, but: https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/apr/26/the-rise-of-voluntary-celibacy-most-of-the-sex-ive-had-i-wish-i-hadnt-bothered https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-women-abstaining-sex-celibacy-dating-hook-up-culture-2023-4
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 02:34 PM
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More women are choosing to abstain vs sleep with men who don’t like them. I hope the trend continues
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:09 AM
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who let me hit it raw and off bc. So we’re not afraid of STDs and unwanted pregnancies anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:06 AM
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Research shows most people date laterally in terms of socioeconomic status and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 08:04 AM
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Why'd you stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:08 PM
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Have you ever had a longterm relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:27 PM
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Maybe this won’t look the same for everyone, but I’d say the following: Mutual physical attraction Seemingly natural rapport during conversation A sense of chemistry (subtle or strong, just present) A sense that you like the person so far, whether you have evidence for it or not Certain people will feel no physical attraction towards someone, no conversational rapport, zero chemistry, and still expect the other party to be interested in dating. You can’t force human connection when it isn’t ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 10:23 PM
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Someone who is super into you will view your availability as a positive. Someone who is not into you will view any random attribute as an ick or negative. You don’t need to overanalyze your behavior and come to the conclusion of “darn, I was just too available.” No, you two just didn’t have a romantic connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 08:09 PM
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Gah, that's rotten. Sounds like it was very stressful. How did the next date go three years later?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:35 AM
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How can she raise a family with a man that can't support their quality of living the second she's not working due to birthing children, recovering, and raising them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:27 AM
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Can you tell us about the moment she did realize you were a loser and what happened after that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 12:24 AM
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Oh yes, the replies to this were concerning to say the least. Why would I want to be treated well in a relationship?!? Why is that something I screen for?!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 08:08 PM
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The cultural expectation for men to pay for dates has already been challenged. Look at any Reddit thread and you’ll see many, many women who insist they go 50/50 as a preference. There will still be women who associate a man paying with courtship. And there are still men who prefer to pay as a gesture of romance. These people don’t care about your idealized version of the world, they’re going to do what they want. Again, I’m not talking about someone paying someone else’s way through life. You k…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:54 PM
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Sure, I’m happy to share my thoughts. The man doesn’t have to do anything. There are men with the genuine disposition to be providers, or to be generous, or to be egalitarian, or to be househusbands, etc. And there is a corresponding partner who matches their disposition. There is no right or wrong here. No one is forcing you to be a provider. Be whoever you want to be in a relationship and find the partner that matches you. Unfortunately, no one is entitled to a world where every woman matches …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:33 PM
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Do you think there’s only two options? Being a miserly bastard complaining about 50¢ cups or being a provider? You can’t conceptualize just being generous, nice, caring without funding travel and luxury goods?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:21 PM
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One thing (of many) that attracted me to my last partner was the fact that he didn’t bat an eyelash about tipping. He’d tip $2 on a $3 espresso. And he wasn’t trying to impress anyone, it was in his nature to treat everyone well, even service workers and baristas. I’ve noticed a direct correlation between how someone tips to how they are in a relationship. If they’re fretting over tipping a barista a fricken dollar, bitching about how much cups cost, they’re going to be cheap, stingy, keeping sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 03:32 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:49 PM
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I don’t know what this sentence is supposed to mean
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 11:40 PM
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Basic human needs are food, water, shelter from the elements, human interaction, sleep, sunlight. Procreating/creating families is an innate biological drive, but humans exist and live without this. It’s not a basic human need on an individual level.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 10:54 PM
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It's only a disadvantage because women feel entitled to safety. Wow
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:28 PM
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That’s really sweet of you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:53 AM
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I hope she contributes 1/4th or less.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:36 AM
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Apparently, there is the notion that most men don't care about a woman's career or level of education or ambition in life It’s true, low status men don’t care about a woman’s career. High status men absolutely care about career, education, etc — as you’ve mentioned. If you are an adult, you are fully capable of supporting yourself, and the man should not have to pay for everything for you. You mention that some men and women prefer a dynamic where the husband/male partner supports the wife/famil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 12:35 AM
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I meant has the approach netted an actual hookup, relationship, or wife? Otherwise, it’s not really working if people giving you their number so that you go away and that’s that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:35 PM
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Exactly this. Although social situations aren’t supposed to be a person’s personal dating pool, it allows for natural, genuine connections to develop with people who have actual proximity to you! Far superior to ambushing people on the street which works 1 out of 500 times for the average person, if that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:05 PM
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Stop approaching strangers. You don’t have any organic way to actually meet people? Has approaching strangers ever worked for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 06:02 PM
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I use the term low-tox because there are many things outside of my control. I don’t treat my own water and grow my own food. Surely you’re smart enough to understand that concept. :) Again, I don't care about you. Nobody does. Haha, are you okay? Genuinely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:23 PM
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No they aren't. This has me dying laughing. I’ve intentionally cultivated a low-tox life because I’m very aware of the impact industrial chemicals have on the human body. And you, a complete stranger, somehow believe you know more about my life than I do. The delusion is amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 09:02 PM
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Most of my products are clean beauty, organic, natural, vegan, etc… and I’m not a rich actor. If I can afford it then so can he
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 06:52 PM
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Most people at least drink water, use moisturizer and chapstick. He looks like he uses none of the above. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with aging, he doesn’t look like he took care of himself at all. It’s jarring
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 05:53 PM
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a British man that has never used moisturizer or SPF a day in his life 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 05:22 PM
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Hugh Grant is a prime example. He was so handsome in his youth and now he looks like an old raisin
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:43 PM
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I genuinely wish that for you and I believe it’s attainable
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:27 PM
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lol okay boss
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:58 PM
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It’s normal to want to be wanted by people who want you. It’s not normal to fixate on people who don’t want you. I could not imagine walking around and wanting everyone to desire me. I guess that’s a male prerogative. Sounds like hell!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:58 PM
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I’m a tall woman who has faced height discrimination in dating. I’m taller than 80% of women and that makes me undesirable to the majority of men. Despite this, I don’t feel any particular loss. People are more than entitled to find certain characteristics sexually attractive, I can understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:53 PM
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I am utter fascinated, actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:50 PM
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Fatness is a literal dealbreaker for many men, including fat men. Everyone has dealbreakers. Short men still find partners. What is the obsession with being desired by people who don’t want you? I’m genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:37 PM
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Because every day I read comments from women who say as long as a guy is a few inches taller, they’re fine with it. So, a 5’3” woman can date a 5’6” man. A 5’2” woman can date a 5’5” man and so on. Yes, there are height queens, but let’s not pretend like every woman is a height queen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:36 PM
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You must have misunderstood my comment I believe it’s a positive for both sexes to be forthcoming about their preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 08:33 PM
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Certain people are fixed on status, they tend to already have status themselves, whether by wealth, class, celebrity or influencer designation. Speaking of studies, most studies show people date/marry within their respective status. It’s a waste of time to wonder why some hot rich girl wants a tall hot boyfriend. Wealthy men are above average height due to environmental factors. Where do you fit into all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:31 PM
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the women here are … happier than the men here Thank you for noticing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:15 PM
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How many men’s profiles have you swiped on? Because, as a woman, I can tell you that plenty of men list all sorts of arbitrary physical preferences. Or worse, they aren’t forthcoming about their preferences because they’re perfectly fine sleeping with someone until their actual dream girl comes around. As a woman who views men’s preferences regularly, I am glad to know up front. If you love huge tits and I’ve got small ones, I’d rather not be a pity match or a placeholder. while for women that u…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 04:02 PM
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Do you think all preferences are silly, or just height? Shortness is relatively undesirable in men, sure. The fact that they can’t change it is is irrelevant, sexual desire isn’t merit-based or charity. But most men can find a woman that’s either shorter than them or doesn’t care about their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:54 PM
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But why? Even men like other tall men. It’s a desirable and attractive trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 03:32 PM
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Women have height preferences and most men are taller than most women in the real world. But you’re right, some women say they want a partner who is 6 ft or taller. Just like some men are into blondes, big boobs, big butts, thick women, thin women, etc. People have their arbitrary preferences. Why does it bug you that any particular woman finds tallness an attractive trait in a sexual partner? Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 10:09 AM
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Most people don’t see shortness as a problem. Most men are taller than most women. It’s just suspicious to hyper-fixate on one particular thing as a death sentence when short men date and get girls all the time. Certainly it’s a combination of things and not just the shortness. they must be an awful human being. Awful? Probably not. Unattractive? Possibly. Socially awkward? Possibly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:43 AM
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Because women everywhere have either dated short men or seen short men successful in life and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/24 09:21 AM
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It certainly is
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:31 AM
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Similarly, men like to pretend the only thing that matters is women “not be fat” meanwhile they have a million preferences/desires for their partner they aren’t forthcoming about. Everyone is steeped in their own self-delusion
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:47 AM
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Grape shape made me lol, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:40 AM
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You’re holding me responsible for my entire gender, sheesh! Looks and initial attraction are extremely important in my opinion. Everything else is secondary. But the secondary stuff still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:40 AM
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Certainly, in fact some women find baldness attractive. Unfortunately I do not, I need my men with grown out hair shoulder length or beyond
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:20 AM
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Beer bellies, obesity, balding, and ED have entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 12:03 AM
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And even those women could have had better lovers 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:50 PM
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You’re totally correct, I’m just talking about the men in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:42 PM
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It genuinely seems like the only thing men value is sex. They don’t care if their woman loves them for being a great person, a kind soul, an amazing partner, they only want to be valued for being an imaginary Chad Thundercock
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:38 PM
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The men here expect to be treated like sex gods while inspiring nothing of the sort in anyone, and then hold women responsible for their inadequacy. “How dare you have had better sex with someone else?!?” aka someone was better at sex than them. Do they try to get better? NO. It’s pathological
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:36 PM
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Why can’t you just get better at sex or try to inspire the same desire in your partners? Why do men like you expect to be treated like sex gods without even trying?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:28 PM
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I’ll be here all day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 07:24 PM
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Suuure, Elliot Rodger. Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 10:06 AM
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Unfortunately it can't hide the ugliness inside many women. Hatred for women masquerading as a critique on makeup, it must be a day that ends in -y! You do know guys like you post the exact same thoughts over and over? It’s fascinating how you all think the same things and somehow feel you’re having original thoughts. Whats most notable is how your thoughts differ from men who actually have respect from/proximity to/contact with the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:53 AM
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Men prefer women wearing makeup, literally every study proves this. You’re basing your perception of the world on your opinion, surely you’re smarter than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:48 AM
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or even his height that would be outrageous. 99% of men lie about their height.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:46 AM
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Makeup is a social norm that has existed for literal centuries. Accentuating features and putting effort into beautification is cultural, it’s not the glaring personality flaw you think it is. In my experience and what I’ve observed from men who actually have partners, most guys like when their partners are done up and beautiful. The only people who ever harp about makeup are men who have no proximity to women, no partner to go “wow, you look pretty!” … just hatred for the opposite sex masquerad…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:41 AM
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Accentuating your cheeks, lips, and eyelashes is not “hiding”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 09:32 AM
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She’s not attracted to them ≠ they’re unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:33 PM
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And being teased in person is significantly more impactful. You don’t hear conversations people have when you aren’t around, you’d likely never even know if they took place.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:32 PM
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She explicitly said short men can be attractive, she just finds dating short men physically awkward for her. Good grief
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:26 PM
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Men are an equally emotional gender. Anger, resentment, spite, envy, those are emotions too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:25 PM
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At this point, it seems like he’s intentionally not understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:23 PM
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whereas 48.9% wanted to only date men taller than them. Most men are taller than most women, darling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:22 PM
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You’re literally allowed to like big boobs though. No one cares I have small boobs and I feel absolutely nothing towards men who have preferences, no animosity, no anger, nothing. Preferences are arbitrary
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:21 PM
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Most men aren’t significantly tall yet most adult men are married/partnered, so I don’t think this checks out…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:18 PM
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I’ve seen more men tease other men about being short than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 10:17 PM
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Those are literally the only women who exist to him, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 07:12 PM
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You’re onto something. Maybe, just maybe, these aren’t objective measures. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 09:19 PM
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I’ll be honest, the fact that it’s well known most men are taller than most women made it irrelevant to address. Plus, I had faith you’d be right here to mention it, just in case some poor reader didn’t already know this basic biological fact. Thank you for your service. This dating up and dating down rhetoric is kind of silly honestly because it looks at dating from a viewpoint that’s a bit one dimensional. You’re allowed to have your opinion on the matter. It doesn’t mean anyone has to agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 08:57 PM
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Is it a conceivable possibility to you that perhaps I was talking about the education, money, and assets?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:45 PM
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Do all women expect men to be well off financially? Even poor women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 05:18 PM
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Chinese girls want to date someone atleast average height even if they are below average height. They want to date someone equally or better educated. A nice car matters.. a LOT. Having a house matters, a lot (even if its like 2 million in SF or 1 mil in beijing You’re describing the phenomenon in which women date up in many ways and down in others. What do you think the ideal scenario should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 07:31 AM
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You have to be really juvenile to not realize individual people are attracted to many different things, and what one person hates about you another person will love. Men settle all the time to not be alone. Sorry that’s your life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:32 AM
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wasted 13 years with someone I wasn’t attracted to Why… did you do this? Most women aren’t as attractive as they think. Women don’t exist to be as attractive as possible to you. Everyone is someone else’s ten. If you aren’t into someone, let her find someone who is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 03:46 AM
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Have you ever contemplated the thought that women have a low swipe right rates because guys have bad profiles, bad pictures, or otherwise undesirable profiles? Despite their low swipe rate, 60% of adult women are either partnered or married already. Who do you think they are partnered with? Tinder is not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:59 AM
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Cosmo magazine told me that men value confidence above all over traits. They lied to us!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 03:59 AM
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Oh no I misread your comment I’m sorry. So, he wasn’t violent or abusive, just an addict?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:53 PM
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How’s it working so far
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 06:51 PM
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If you have a reason to be there, it’s not that weird. If you’re there solely to hit on students, it’s suspect.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:47 PM
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Every source I’ve found doesn’t even list lawyer or doctor within the top 10 of occupations related to domestic violence…?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 05:24 PM
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You do recognize that outliers exist. Most doctors are from high SES backgrounds that have low domestic violence rates. Low doesn’t mean zero
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 10:27 AM
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Let’s shed light on the fact that the women in your dating pool select for men that are ‘lowlifes’ with zero redeeming qualities. Are you of low socioeconomic status? And, if so, can you see how that influences mate selection? Because the same women talking about safety and high quality men aren’t the same women dating lowlifes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:24 PM
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Did he have associates that worked underneath him? A lot of dating theorists talk about men who are uncomfortable with being outearned, I think there’s some validity to it. I’m glad your mom eventually stood up for herself. I genuinely hope things are better for her
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 10:31 PM
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How did your dad even feel comfortable being so worthless
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 07:54 PM
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So who is judging you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 05:23 PM
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You barely talk to women, yet somehow feel persecuted and judged by them for caring about n-counts. How can two of these things be true? Unless your persecution is imaginary, read by strangers, and not even directed towards you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:04 PM
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is it "morally wrong" for him to seek a woman that is likeminded? No, no one cares who he dates. He doesn’t need to ask anyone’s permission to have standards and boundaries in his dating life. And no one can control him whatsoever. This is virtually a nonissue, unless he takes to the internet to fight about his viewpoints, otherwise he’d probably never have to defend them in the real world (the only one that matters).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 03:01 PM
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Some people have been in relationships before and enjoyed the love and companionship
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 02:58 PM
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OP strictly absolutely solely wants casual sex and nothing else from women, and keeps finding out that women eventually catch feelings for him. Why not just use a prostitute at that point? SWers who, without a shadow of a doubt, are never going to catch feelings for him?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:49 PM
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We're 2 consenting adults getting our rocks off. If you lie or obfuscate your intentions to get a woman to say yes to having sex when she otherwise would have said no you’re actually taking away her ability to actually consent. And when she finds out you’ve lied, she will feel used and manipulated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:44 PM
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But you want to use the women in your life like free use prostitutes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:40 PM
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And how has manosphere advice been working out for you so far?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 02:33 AM
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I can't speak for everyone :( but I can find someone generally attactive, the only thing that makes me go from meh to wow is their personality... if they are sweet, attentive, consistent, and demonstrating intention and effort. That's probably not helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 07:43 PM
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One conversation in 8 years leads me to believe you aren’t particularly physically attractive. That is unfortunate and I’m sorry that has been your experience on dating apps. Alright Hannibal Lecter, I’ll answer your question. I recognize that certain people aren’t bad looking, but I’m personally only physically attracted to a very tiny amount of people. I’d say 1% of men or less. That doesn’t mean I’m trying to date supermodels, I actually like unconventionally attractive people, they just aren…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 10:46 PM
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The 80% figure is very specific to dating apps, although you refuse to admit it for some reason. Have you thought for a single solitary second that maybe below average people are over represented on dating apps to begin with? That people have poor pictures, poor profiles, and are therefore related as below average?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 09:01 PM
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Hahaha, okay chief
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:47 PM
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The reference to 80% of men being below average, are you referencing dating app data? I’m just curious why you think individual women need to find the MAJORITY OF MEN attractive. It’s nonsense. Even men themselves don’t find the majority of women attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:47 PM
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Ohhhh, you’re basing your opinion on dating app data, is that a correct assumption?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 08:34 PM
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Why blame me? I believe in and want marriage. Men are the ones that are historically dragged kicking and screaming to the altar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:59 PM
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Both things are true at once. People marry and date less, and most adults are still partnered or married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:58 PM
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Who decides who has “realistic, sensible” standards and why does it conveniently happen to be you? Women are sexually selective by nature, they have never in history been interested in the large majority of the male population. And women can only marry and procreate with one male at a time. What is the point of being romantically interested in the majority of men? Furthermore, men themselves have preferences. Just because a man will accept sexual attention from a large majority of women doesn’t …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:44 PM
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Weird how nearly 60% of adults are married or partnered. But somehow all women are still chasing a mythical 5% of men. Did you know the top percent have marriage numbers higher than everyone else? They’re even more likely to be married.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:31 PM
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That’s a bit of a false dichotomy. The only two options aren’t bumming or obsession with material gain. You can be a normal human who wants to learn at university and have an engaging career, no obsession required.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:47 PM
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Right, and the cultural narrative surrounding commitment is that men enter it against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:40 PM
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Most adult women are partnered or married already, so who are you actually upset with? OP, are you swiping on women you don’t find attractive? If you don’t do it, why should women?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:38 PM
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So, you can generalize that all men desire family, and that’s not a fallacy. If I generalize in the other way, that certainly is a fallacy? Is that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 03:24 PM
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If the average changes in the opposite direction, would the bar go lower? It should, by your logic, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:08 AM
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That’s the number 1 thing above everything else most men want. From observation, men dislike commitment and think women are trying to entrap and confine them to family life. It doesn’t seem like a number 1 priority at all. More power to you if you’re happy with an AI girlfriend. Most people probably don’t want that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 07:05 AM
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Because it’s unreasonable to expect men to have ambition and initiative for their own lives? Humankind will die off because men won’t want to study and experience high paying careers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:07 AM
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I experienced the resentment thing in a relationship in my early 20s. His bitterness over his own circumstances was the most unattractive, repulsive thing I ever experienced. He was one person that helped me realize I only want to date men that make more than me. So far, it’s worked well. However, in the past two years, I’ve encountered a few dates that make less than me. I can see the gears working almost immediately, the insecurity, the snide comments about my career/education, and we don’t go…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 05:05 AM
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And what are men going to do? Languish? Turn away education opportunities and better jobs?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 04:56 AM
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You dated a crazy woman, that explains it. Most people are relatively sane, crazy people are outliers which is why they are considered ‘crazy’ and why you dubbed this one ex as such
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:31 PM
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Instead of relying on this toxic cesspool, I would talk to your guy friends that have girlfriends and fwbs. Clearly they’re doing well in your environment and they will have exponentially better advice than anyone here. I wish you luck OP
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 02:27 PM
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People break their own rules all the time. And, most people aren’t explicitly giving you their rules like an instruction manual. Most people operate with a sense of what they prefer, like, dislike, feel comfortable with and go from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:04 PM
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Just like a guy who doesn’t take girls on dates that cost more than $5 as a dating rule/strategy, then he meets his dream girl and does whatever she wants for whatever cost. This isn’t about integrity. It’s about human connection and desire, which varies from person to person. It’s impossible to be formulaic and rigid with each interaction because different people make you feel different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 04:21 PM
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I missed the part of your comment where you said I was expecting my partner to be my parent. That’s not even remotely close to the truth, but it’s a common narrative that women who like provider men just want “parents” — I’m an adult, with degrees, a career, my own place, I don’t need anyone to take care of me and I’m not looking for a parent. I just don’t find stingy cheap men sexually desirable, that has nothing to do with expecting a man to be my dad. But! Funny enough, my father told me my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:38 PM
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But setting your man up as a provider, and then expecting him to be that, as well as a lover, carer, parent and help is just not an equal relationship. That's the point, I'd never set anyone up. Men like this exist, in bliss, happy to be all that and more because it is their nature. You're allowed to be irked by my statement. I can fully understand that it is an undesirable dynamic, one you would not enjoy. Rest assured, you don't have to worry about being in one because you have agency over you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 02:18 AM
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That’s a great question. You’re asking me to demonstrate my value, but it’s not really possible. Humans (I) don’t have value or utility to another (you) when we aren’t connected by any tangible means. No answer will be good enough. If you were to ask someone who loved me what I was worth, what they received out of being connected with me, they would consider it incalculable. Love, attention, presence, affection, adoration, friendship, partnership, all of these things have non-monetary value. I’m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:27 PM
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I laughed out loud at this, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:08 PM
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Men can get erections for inanimate objects
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 03:30 PM
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Even most men don’t find most women sexually attractive. The average woman is 5’3” with a BMI of 29, far from the male ideal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:58 PM
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I agree, the giving and support should be mutual. I’m simply talking about the traits you select for in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:55 PM
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Virtually no. The men that approach me in inappropriate public spaces are almost always unattractive. The men that approach me in socially appropriate settings, however, tend to be more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:19 PM
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No, modern culture is saying gender roles shouldn’t be forced and expected. People should be allowed to freely express what brings them the most joy without being confined to unnecessary societal norms. There’s no reason for a woman who doesn’t want marriage or children to feel pressured into doing so. There’s no reason for a man who feels feminine to be afraid to display his gender expression. I’m a blend of traditional and modern ideals on gender and identity. This is what makes me happy so it…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:14 PM
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Basically, I think a lot of left wing guys have come to feel (rightly or wrongly) that partnerships have come to represent a whole helluva lot of responsibility without much upside. Stop dating women you don’t like and nothing will feel like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:10 PM
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This is always so curious to me. What does feminism have to do with consensual adult romance? You can both want women to have the right to vote, the right to have an abortion, the right to own property, the right to equal pay, while also finding generous men that provide attractive. And here’s the thing, you’re not a provider-type. So, a woman that wants that wouldn’t want to date you. Provider men have an entire personality trait that you cannot fake. Just find someone you’re compatible with be…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 01:08 PM
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But what is masculine? Because to me, there is nothing more masculine than a secure, emotionally regulated kind man who takes care of the people he loves. The easiest way to lose my respect is to desperately need it in the first place, to feel your manliness can be threatened by everything, and the need to project strength and dominance, which is actually just weakness disguised as strength.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:56 PM
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The best love you can feel is from a person who adores you and wants to take care of you. 50/50 feels like a roommate keeping score, it’s extremely unattractive and unsexy. Imagine going 50/50 on your birthday, or your boyfriend posting on Reddit asking if it’s okay if he made you pay 100% of the medical bills for childbirth since he wasn’t the one in the hospital. You can want love, and also want the best version of that love, and have high standards for your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 12:50 PM
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The core error here is the assumption that generous, kind, giving, provider type men have to be traditional and conservative. They don’t. My last partner was a leftist and extremely chivalrous and a gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 04:19 AM
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A 5’10” guy in the wild is nearly 6’0” tall, no one is calling you short. But if you’re not actually 5’10”, perhaps you’re 5’8” and add two inches for shoes like so many men do, then I can see why people refer to you as short. The average male height is 5’10”.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 12:41 PM
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Most women are not that level of hot
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:56 AM
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No, I prefer attractive men with long hair. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 03:37 PM
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I actually do prefer pretty men with gorgeous facial features and long beautiful hair
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 12:02 AM
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You are the rare exception my dear! Most of the people that post here have a narrative they are wholly committed to and are not interested in being proven wrong or changing their worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:05 AM
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And the proof is never good enough, and it never changes their mind. I don’t cite sources for the same reasons you mentioned. If someone cares enough to look into it, they will, otherwise no one here is entitled to other people compiling sources for them and it’s absurd people think that to begin with
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:19 PM
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The cost of mating is much higher for women. Women are inherently more selective as a result. Men being willing to sleep with most women isn’t a good trait, I don’t know why it’s presented as such. The average man isn’t invisible to women, the average man is married or in a long term partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:40 AM
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he always talks shit about her looks and personality lol Your boyfriend sounds like a catch. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 01:37 AM
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Sounds like women used you to self harm
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:48 AM
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That’s an adorably charitable interpretation of an otherwise obvious meaning, thanks darlin
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:51 PM
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Calm down, tiger. The no comment gave it away
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 10:43 PM
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Oh okay, so the real question is why do you feel entitled to use people like disposable sex objects
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 04:03 PM
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Did you let these people know they were in a sex only zone or did you string them along
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 08:17 AM
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Not sure what this means but sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 09:26 AM
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It's the same reason why literally every single man adds 2 inches to their reported height. There is an element of self-delusion there, plus the hope the other person won't notice or will accept them as they are, plus a sense of entitlement to embellish parts of yourself to be more attractive and garner more interest. Misleading people about your body size, whether it be height or weight, is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 12:26 AM
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That’s not the strategy. You are a hookup, you are down for sex. That’s all she really needs to know and understand about you. A person being vetted for a relationship? That’s someone that’s going to meet your family, your friends, your coworkers, integrate themselves into your life, know the intimate details of everything about you. The vetting is significantly more intense. When you are evaluating someone for a very important role, you take your time. That includes sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:27 PM
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Oh, confronting random women must work well for you then. Good! Why are you here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:29 PM
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I'm trying to give you power by sharing how to best expend your resources. I'm trying to help you recognize how fruitless approaching random women has been for you and to try out more socially adept behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:05 AM
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The key is talking to people in socially acceptable places where other people go to socialize. A bar is most definitely one of them. A gym is not, unless you’ve built up some naturally friendly rapport with someone. The fact that you can’t distinguish between appropriate socializing spaces is also telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 08:30 PM
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The truth is this - we've seen the type of guys that approach spanning decades and they are always low value, approaching random women because they have no social circle or women otherwise interested in them. Even the mere act of approaching a woman you don't know conveys so much in that mere instant, that you are otherwise undesirable, that your social network is lacking, etc. It's just an immediate ick. Approaching a woman at a bar or a singles event is a completely different story. That's soc…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 05:07 AM
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Women should not let men pay if there will be no second date. I follow this rule myself and I think it's very fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:12 AM
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I don't think men "should" do anything. I think it's perfectly fine to want to pay for a date, not want to pay for a date, go half, whatever. I find it most attractive when a man genuinely wants to treat me as his partner, and I find it unattractive when a guy keeps tabs and cares about money. But I would never date a guy and demand he pay or feel entitled for him to pay, I would only date people who genuinely pay out of their own desire and enjoyment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 03:10 AM
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First off, this isn't a bluepill idea that everyone has equal dating value, I don't believe that. What I do believe is that desire is wholly subjective, and what you don't value at all, someone else will. It's a revenge fantasy to hope that women will never find the men they want. A successful guy could be blue collar, a tradesman, IT at a hospital, its not beyond the realm of possibility for a single mom in her 30s to find a successful guy, and there are plenty of men who are fine with women ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 04:37 AM
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I get it, however, a woman you find low value will have value to someone else, however long that takes. And that's who they are looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 01:41 AM
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i'm just amused when i see women who are 30-35+, have been around the block, perhaps have a baby in tow, proclaim that they know their worth now and won't settle for less than X Y and Z For some people, it takes time to learn self-respect. Maybe healthy relationships weren’t modeled for them as a child. Maybe they grew up in an abusive household. Whatever the answer may be, they were late to discover self-worth. They are now holding out for more high quality connections and this amuses you becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 05:01 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 06:26 PM
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Some men are fulfilled by and enjoy that dynamic. They are in love and happy, that’s the only way those dynamics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:29 PM
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It’s something that’s either genuinely in a persons nature or not. You cannot perform it. Sure, people can be too giving but I think it’s okay to give to a partner that loves you and is committed to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 04:28 PM
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To me, nothing is more masculine than a guy who loves his partner above his own ego. And to you, that’s submissiveness. Needing to dominate or be perceived as masculine is weakness disguised as strength. Huge turnoff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/24 12:10 PM
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Some people do it for the thrill, because they’re uninhibited by alcohol, because they are self-harming with sex, trying to feel something/anything at all, because society has told them it’s exciting and empowering.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 04:48 PM
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You can come off as disinterested in many ways. Sometimes it’s just a general vibe that you’re performing, not actually interested, going through the motions. People want someone who is excited. You think you have to follow a script, that doesn’t come of well. You’re asking for rules to follow for success when your behavior should depend on the connection and vibes you have with the other person, people aren’t puzzles to crack. Try to show up more authentically
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 05:32 AM
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You categorize the top 1% as over 6’ and making over 100k, which just so happens to be every partner I’ve had in the past decade, which is why I responded. Then you said the 1% don’t want me, as if you speak for them. Weirdness all around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:26 PM
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Another case of male projection 🎻
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:17 PM
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I’m not looking for the 1%, when have I ever said that? Are you trying to assert the idea that the 1% want YOU? Because I have a hunch that’s not the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:48 AM
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My last two boyfriends proposed, but I decided I wasn’t ready to get married both times. And I kept both rings because they were both sweet men that wanted me to keep them. Would you like to see photographic evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:25 AM
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Are they average or are they ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 03:23 AM
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I love shy guys, I don’t care if a guy isn’t assertive. If I find him physically attractive that’s all I need
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 12:14 AM
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Smart nerdy men can be cute too ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 07:33 PM
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Not yet baby, but I’ll keep you posted
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:19 PM
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Tall, intelligent, average looking and average dressed works for me. And being pretty, pleasant, smart has worked for me so far
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 05:17 PM
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Hasn’t seemed like a challenge so far
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:29 PM
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This is amusing because a tall nerdy software engineer can make over $100k and there’s hundreds of those in Seattle alone. And thousands under 6’0”. I’m fine with my chances. Literally every boyfriend I’ve had in my 20s and beyond has been tall and making 100-200k, these aren’t gigachads flying on private jets and dating models, these are just normal boys with average looks and mild social awkwardness. What did I bring to the table? I was their pretty girlfriend and we spent time together like n…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:27 PM
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Look, I’m clearly talking about present day representations of casual sex, which makes it seems empowering and liberating to hookup with strangers. Millennial women bought into this and a large majority learned a lesson, some didn’t. The reason I said women is because that was literally the question, this is focused on the sexual choices of women specifically. Zoomers are less casual, having less sex overall, there’s been a culture shift in that regard. Nowhere did I say casual sex is a new phen…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 02:48 PM
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So why do women still have casual sex then? They most likely will not get pleasure from it and it clearly carries alot of risks. It makes 0 sense yet its done anyway. People experiment and then eventually learn what works and what doesn’t. Casual sex is made to seem normal in popular media, women grow up thinking “this is what everyone does” until they realize it’s not fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:54 PM
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Idk man, it’s changed my life :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 11:04 PM
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Absurd level of reach. I got Invisalign for my teeth $6K, hair extensions ($1000 + $500 maintenance every 2 months), microblading for perfect eyebrows $1000, all things to make me look naturally more attractive. If someone would have suggested these things to me, I would have said thanks for the idea vs call them elitist. Making yourself more beautiful and/or desirable is an endeavor to improve your life. Regarding pricing, I paid in full but there’s all types of Medical credit cards with low to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 02:55 PM
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I should have said they aren’t intrinsically or inherently unattractive by nature. But all beauty is subjective, of course
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:48 PM
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Signs of aging aren’t unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 03:18 PM
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Every standard I have for my partners I learned from how my father treated my mom, so I think my father would be able to pick a partner for me. Growing up, he would always tell me about what traits to avoid in order not to date losers. He had lots of opinions about who paid for dates and how to treat a partner, that’s for sure! Same with my granddad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 06:04 AM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 02:28 AM
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Be more okay with entering a relationship with the least attractive person you still find attractive. Wait, what does attraction have to do with domestic violence? Be okay with building a relationship instead of demanding perfection (aka tingles) right off the bat. Most people do this, as evidenced by the fact that most people are in relationships, married or partnered. What this means in practice is vet for longer and don't fall for love bombing. We are in complete agreement. Two people should …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 10:15 PM
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It's projection because men are the ones facing loneliness epidemics, and sad that women won't lower their standards. Women are happy to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:16 PM
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OH! Actually, I have a question for you. What should women rely on, then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:41 PM
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They're the ones that insist on going for fukbois. Can’t relate most of these women are in their 30's and desperate. Projection
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:39 PM
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But you haven't gotten that far in your journey and that's fine. The belief that your happiness (in this case, the right to bother people who don't want anything to do with you) is somehow more important than someone's personal space, sense of safety, and comfort shows a blatant lack of emotional intelligence, actually. But you recognize this, especially since you realize a lot of the numbers you get are from women who want you to go away and leave them alone. If your happiness hinges on making …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 06:47 PM
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So, you’re just going to ignore the established fact that abusers hide being abusers and pretend to be normal people. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:44 PM
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A lot of girls will give numbers just for you to go away. So there's that Generalizations are surmised by experiences. If you think I need to meet every single man that has ever cold approached before drawing conclusions, I don’t know what to tell you. The fact that you admitted “a lot of girls” will give you their number just to get you to leave them alone, and you’re fine with putting women in uncomfortable situations, tells me everything I need to know
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 05:42 PM
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Research shows most women prefer to date slightly down in looks and up in money/career. Highly skilled careers like doctors & lawyers aren’t necessary. A guy could be a product designer, IT manager, data analyst, cloud engineer etc and clear $100-$200K. He could be 5’10, average in the face to everyone else but very attractive to his girlfriend and that’s all that matters to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:23 PM
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I’ll be honest, the men that approach in public are indistinguishably low value. Low EQ, uneducated, bad job. Virtually every single one of them. Attractive men with social circles, education, jobs don’t need to harass women in public, so if you’re approaching us then we assume you have social deficits of some kind. I’m genuinely shocked to hear you’ve had any success, most guys say it’s 1/10, if not 0/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:04 PM
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To start, I want you to sit with the fact that the gender you have issue with here is not the one perpetuating abuse, but the one receiving it. Deeply contemplate that. Secondly, abusers are masterful in pretending to be normal, caring, even special partners. That is how they infiltrate someone’s life, isolate them from their support network, and abuse them. If you knew absolutely anything about the cycle of abuse, how domestic violence plays out, you’d realize it is strategic and insidious.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:59 PM
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For example, women telling you not to approach random women because they personally don't like it at the time. This is a losing strategy for 99% of men. Approaching women in socially appropriate settings (not random women you have no business talking to) is much better advice. However, logic tells you that the more women you talk to equals the more women you could possibly get. You’re literally wasting your own time when you could be more successful talking to less women in situations where wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 08:05 AM
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A woman is attracted to a drug dealer and/or felon because those are who are in her social circle. Relationship dysfunction was modeled for her growing up and that’s what she reproduces. It’s so batshit insane how we can be talking about average, normal people and one of you guys goes “OH YEAH?!?! WELL A POOR UNEDUCATED LOW SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS WOMAN IN THE HOOD BANGS DRUG DEALERS AND FELONS, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT?” It’s literally irrelevant, unless you want to have a conversation e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:17 AM
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It’s shallow to want a partner that can contribute to a household while you raise your children ☹️ so shallow to not want to live in a box under an overpass ☹️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:31 PM
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How is this any different from the approach men take when they tell women they should probably lower their standards? The difference is I didn’t tell the fat guy to lower his standards. If he wants what he wants, he can position himself in the world to get it. Anyways, my standards have only gotten higher as I’ve gotten older, my life is better as a result. You must think of standards solely as physical. But, I have standards for integrity, kindness, generosity, emotional intelligence, and many …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:28 PM
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Guy has to be emotionally intelligent, kind, generous, loving, responsible, family oriented, career oriented Men: wow, it’s shallow to have requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:55 PM
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She literally said compatibility, vibes, being on the same wavelength, having the same values, natural conversation, shared excitements, and good balance of personality. To reduce that to “tingles” is ridiculous. You expect to have nothing in common, bad vibes, forced conversation, mismatched values, poor personality match, and someone still be interested in you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:52 PM
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They aren’t to me. I like introverted men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:50 PM
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When guys say they like brunettes, they mean brunettes that are attractive to them. This is literally what everyone means when they talk about attractive traits. The element of physical attractiveness is implied. Everyone has different tastes and preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:46 PM
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Funny how off-rip you've already determined how he doesn't qualify for what he thinks he deserves. Give me a break. The way you framed the question implies the fat guy dating a model is a stretch. Results determine if someones standards are too high. Same applies to women. The majority of women are married or partnered, so they’re not having too much trouble tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:41 PM
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You’re right, there’s absolutely nothing that man can do to make himself desirable. Not his weight, not his career, not his hairline, nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 09:24 PM
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It’s a ridiculous example. If he is only attracted to super models, he better be rich, or a well known photographer, or in the fashion industry, or adjacent to models in some way. Harry Weinstein was a repulsive fat fuck and he married someone very gorgeous. Fat men can have standards if they can obtain what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:11 PM
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It’s just a valid reason to not respect you and not wanna deal with you. I have a hunch no one is begging you to date them. delegate you to the “sex only zone” and give you low effort to see where it goes Thank goodness women are more choosy about who they have sex with and actively rejecting low effort men these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 07:08 PM
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Weird, because my standards have only gotten higher and the quality of relationships and experiences have only gotten better.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:31 PM
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You haven’t explained why I should be okay with putting more effort than the last 3 guys who you liked more who didn’t have to do much to get you to like them. Weird, because I literally said: “you work harder because you aren’t as desirable as other men she’s met, and it’s not her responsibility to repair your ego. Surprise, other men are hotter than you. How will you ever recover?” There will be women you feel more connected to, that you like more, that you want to do more things for, and that…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:29 PM
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I’m at a loss for how asinine your assumptions are. Mutual attraction is the starting point, without it nothing else is possible. It goes without saying that relationships are not sustained on initial attraction alone. Of course they aren’t. Committed relationships take work, dedication, and so many other things. The only point here is no one should get into a committed romantic relationship with someone they don’t want to fuck. No one is saying sex is the most important part of a relationship, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:24 PM
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A genuine connection is not about someone meeting your standards or not. A genuine connection = authentic attraction, desire, interest between two people. You unfortunately don’t get to decide what people find attractive or desirable in others. Men say: “maybe you should lower your standards and try to date your equal? You are not entitled to perfection.” And who decides who a woman’s equal is? And why is it conveniently men and not women? What does it look like for a woman to be “entitled to pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:58 PM
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And reality says the majority of people find relationships, marriage, and partnership.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 04:43 PM
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So you’re talking about a small subset of the population then
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:29 PM
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80% of women are going for the top 20% of guys. 60% of women are partnered or married. The remaining single women, only 1/3rd (some estimates say 1/4) are on dating apps. Most actual upper 20% men are already married or partnered because marriage is a status symbol for the affluent and wealthy, especially for men. This 80% of women go for the top 20% men nonsense only makes sense in one context, Okcupid circa 2007 where the majority of the men on the app were guys who didn’t do well with dating …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:27 PM
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If he can’t get her, then they don’t have the same SMV. A popular psychologist who specializes in human mating behaviors says the best way to measure you “ranking” is to look who you’ve had relationships with. That can give you an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:23 PM
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Women are fine being alone until they meet someone they like. We don’t need to lower our standards. Men are the ones who don’t want to be alone, how about they try some self-improvement? Why is the onus on WOMEN to change when they aren’t the unhappy miserable lonely bunch?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:21 PM
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In the scenario you describe, a woman is trying to have a monogamous relationship and the man is the problem. Why dont you have more smoke for the men abusing women that just want to love them, hmm?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:17 PM
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Who gets to decide women are demanding too much? And why is it conveniently you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:12 PM
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But you can’t expect men not to get upset guy A didn’t even need to take you on a date to have sex It always leads back to the trope of some other guy getting sex quicker, that’s all you guys care about, that someone else on this earth happened to be slightly more sexually desirable than you at some point in time. You cannot explain to me why I should be okay with having to do 4x as much work as the last 2-3 guys. Maybe you work harder because you aren’t as desirable as other men she’s met, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:10 PM
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A woman wanting to feel genuine, authentic connection with someone that isn’t forced = entitlement Men wanting women who don’t desire them to desire them because that’s the right and logical thing to do, according to men = somehow not entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 03:05 PM
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This is the any-warm-body approach that ruins relationships. Men don’t care about interests, hobbies, compatibility, lifestyle, life goals, or connection - they just care about having access to a vagina. If men actually got into relationships with women they cared about, not a convenient vagina, there wouldn’t be so much divorce. Evidence A: https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/18r5ey1/my_boyfriend_and_i_broke_up_on_christmas/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 04:01 PM
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How can 80% of women have a pretty face when 50% have to be average or below
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:56 PM
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but only with hot guys. But only with guys they find hot** Women in the same friend group don’t even like the same guys. Women like different things, we all have our unique preferences. Chads are not desirable to a lot of people. MEN find Chads most sexually attractive and desirable so they talk about them more than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 03:47 PM
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I didn't say that. If you have a romantic prospect, you're probably interested in sleeping with them. If this is a romantic prospect that you're seeking a relationship with, both people usually go a little slower. There are plenty of couples that have hooked up on the first date and lived happily ever after, but in general, people looking for a relationship slow down compared to people just looking to hook up. Now, if you're desperate, you probably aren't discerning between "hookup only" and "re…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:15 AM
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women only fuck UP Low SES women who fuck other low SES men would like a word. The whole trope of a guy having a mattress on the floor, no bedsheets, and no job and women still sleeping with them would like to have a word.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:14 AM
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This is not revolutionary in the slightest, I don’t know why you’re trying to pretend like it’s new. The majority of adults (men AND women) go slower when they are looking for a relationship with someone. People looking for one night stands, low commitment, NSA sex typically don’t have the slow stage relationship building does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 05:11 AM
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Why does this keep happening? but to conflate the entire sex industry with human trafficking I have said, more than once, that I am only talking about the porn industry. Additionally, the definition of human trafficking is – the use of force, fraud, or coercion to obtain some type of labor or commercial sex act. A woman who was promised $4K for a scene and received $400 is a victim of human trafficking. A woman who agreed to a soft core scene but was demanded to do penetration while being pressu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:14 AM
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I love transition from “how do you know abuse exists in the porn industry” to “of course it does, it exists in every industry” I never said abuse and exploitation weren’t present elsewhere, but we happen to be having a discussion about one particular industry… I don’t know why it’s so uncomfortable for people to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:30 PM
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What’s pathetic is the expectation that others should be of service to you while you denigrate them. If you want more information, learn to research and stop harassing me. It’s disturbing and I’m muting you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:22 PM
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I couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:17 PM
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Every comment I receive keeps conflating sex workers with the porn industry. Sex workers represent many different professions. I'm specifically talking about the porn industry. And yes, many women have been trafficked, or abused, or made to perform against their will, or coerced into performing, or underpaid/lied to about the amount they'd receive, or intensely injured/hurt, and so many other circumstances. I'm not flatly saying everyone has been trafficked, but the majority of women in pornogra…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:15 PM
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Is there anything remarkable or unique about people wanting attractive partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:16 PM
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Women who want men that make the same money as them and have the same level of education arent gold diggers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:07 PM
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I made it clear I’m only engaging in discussion and you’re responsible for your own knowledge. I don’t need to prove a point to someone who actually doesn’t give a shit about the matter in the first place. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:51 PM
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My apologies for posing that as a hypothetical. It’s not, it’s the reality. It’s common for women to be manipulated and coerced into the industry. Nobody for the most part is being forced into sex work, I can’t believe you’d say this so confidently as if you’ve ever, for even one second, studied it. This is demonstrably false. You’re responsible for your own knowledge, please do some research.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:30 PM
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Good grief, no. If you actually care in any way, you’d literally pull up a browser and see the many organizations and studies that have stats and estimates. I am here solely for discussion, you are responsible for your own knowledge. And the fact that you won’t seek the information yourself is more than enough evidence you don’t care (you don’t).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:25 PM
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What if the industry is built upon the abuse and exploitation of women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:56 PM
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Pervasive means it’s spread widely through the industry, it’s something that shouldn’t be in the industry at all. Its existence is inherently intrusive. And I’m talking solely about porn industry, not sex workers as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:56 PM
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I’m talking specifically about the porn industry. If you’re curious, please look into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:52 PM
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Sex trafficking is, by nature, underground, so there are only estimates. If you are genuinely curious, you can find the information via Google. And, to clarify, I’m not against sex workers. They deserve protection, rights, and safety. I’m against the violence and abuse in pornography. I’m not talking about OnlyFans. Women have been coerced and forced into camming, similar to pimps and prostitution. But again, I’m talking about pornography here. Please search porn and sex trafficking!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 04:46 PM
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That’s the point! The posters here aren’t even remotely successful with good jobs or nice apartments in Manhattan. If they had the capacity to obtain any of that, they would not be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:55 PM
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Yes, definitely. Neurodivergence can take many forms. If they fit literally every other preference but had ADHD they’d still be a normal person to me tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:52 PM
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Wait, you’re unaware of the pervasive coercion tactics that happen in the porn industry? By all means, Google pornography + coercion, or sex trafficking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:49 PM
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We know
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:34 PM
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This would be similar if the majority of the restaurant staffers were trafficked, abused, there against their will, coerced into serving after applying for other jobs, had their money withheld, and a hundred other sad circumstances that are routine in the porn industry. No, it’s not like wanting to ban restaurants because if half of the shit that happens to porn stars happened to waitstaff, we probably would re-evaluate restaurants pronto And, the existence of amateur porn, safer porn, etc doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:33 PM
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I don’t agree. People have mental issues regardless of their relationship history. Men & women with BPD somehow manage to have many relationships and sexual partners, more than average. Having partners doesn’t mean anything, it’s the person that matters. If someone has poor social skills, I wouldn’t want to date them. If they don’t have relationship history due to studies, shyness, being a late bloomer, etc, I’d let their personality define them before attributing it to mental illness. But, that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:08 PM
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Because he’s conflating a bunch of things at once. Being a virgin isn’t a red flag, not having a past relationship isn’t a red flag. Two close friends (women) didn’t have their first relationship until their late 20s. A lack of social skills? Yeah, a bit of a red flag. Unattractive and not trying to be more attractive? Unfortunately also a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:52 AM
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Women routinely go for men lacking in the looks department because they possess other traits. Men virtually never do. You see women with ugly men WAY MORE OFTEN than an attractive man with an ugly woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 07:41 PM
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If you’re talking about a romantic interest, being attracted to them matters. This isn’t revolutionary. Guys don’t date ugly women solely for their personality either
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:25 AM
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Oh, I see. I wasn’t trying to offend, things in the US are substantially different as you’ve pointed out. Teachers here are basically abused. In other countries, teachers are probably delightful to date. A catch, even!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 08:20 PM
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You’d probably try to date a man you found attractive in your social circle. Do you think some random guy on the internet saying you don’t deserve xyz would matter to you at all lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:16 PM
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That’s sweet of you to help her with her glow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 03:00 PM
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Modern women want the right guy for them, and modern men just cast a wide net for anyone. Guys try to get with women for sex and to pass the time without actually valuing who they are with. Women don’t want those types of relationships anymore and would rather be alone than date a guy that doesn’t actually like or value her. Y’all are in a tizzy because so many guys think it’s normal to date women they don’t like and you guys feel entitled to waste peoples time (including your own)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:57 PM
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Average women do not and never will deserve those men If you were a woman, what kind of guy would you chase
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:50 PM
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Some of us are above average sir
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:47 PM
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Why does a woman need to compare the men she’s dating to the swaths of destitute and uneducated men in the south if she lives in Seattle, WA? Why does she need to consider the average height of Latinos in Texas when the average height of her social network is 5’11”? People don’t need to think about raw statistics when they’re dating, it’s nearly irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 02:42 PM
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I’m so happy to help. What part did you find most motivating?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 10:04 PM
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I like software engineers. I love tech, love hearing about the new projects they’re working on and companies they work with. I also like lawyers, the cases are (often) super interesting and it’s a sexy career. I’m not into teachers. They have terrible work-life balance (it’s not their fault) and they take a lot of their work home with them, literally. It seems like teachers are teachers 24/7 and it’s not interesting after a while. Plus, a lot of teachers are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 07:13 PM
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No, people find me interesting to both talk to and look at. My line of work is always conversation producing (research) and I’m a sweet friendly hottie. I’m also opinionated and people tell me that I’m funny
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:57 AM
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No, because I’m of the opinion there is someone for everyone. You want someone to do mommy things, there’s someone out there that’s going to give you exactly what you want. The quicker people realize adults have agency over the relationships they enter into, and people are ALLOWED to want whatever the f*ck they want, the better. Just like guys that complain about women having preferences. “You wouldn’t be mad if a guy said he’d only date women with big boobs?” NO. Because the quicker and faster …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 01:50 AM
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Desiring a particular dynamic doesn’t make you entitled. If you try to force unwilling participants, then maybe. But from my perspective, I see women simply trying to find the men that want the same things they do. It might also look less like entitlement because it’s a mutually beneficial dynamic. Again, certain men want to be useful, want to provide, and feel fulfilled by having a partner to be there for. The guy in this scenario isn’t losing, he is winning and getting exactly what he wants. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 10:26 PM
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several men commented that her bf sounded like her dad Um... my dad has never made me coffee and left it on a little tray, but my partners certainly have. This is definitely partner behavior and not parental behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:55 PM
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I suppose you're talking about women's desire for a provider/protector and relating that to "looking for a father." The difference is some men genuinely want to provide and protect, and feel energized, happy, and fulfilled by being this type of partner to their wives and girlfriends. It's a mutually desired dynamic that two people willingly enter into and feel gratified by. In the mommy scenario, women start with a desirable relationship dynamic with a man. Then, when they move in or get married…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:53 PM
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Definitely not semantics. There has never been anything enticing or exciting about having sex with a complete stranger. I've always viewed it as gross and dangerous. It's unfortunate that guys have adopted this idea that all women, no matter who they are, have had sex with someone immediately, because it's just not true. Maybe if you're on a date with someone slutty and sexually free you could think that, but I don't think it's as common as guys think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 08:45 PM
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I have never in my life had sex with someone on a first date. Are you absolutely kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 04:00 PM
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Not everyone is worth the risk, and it takes time to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:51 PM
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I’m not saying they lead with their wallet, they simply appreciate being valued for what they have/have built/can provide. Hell, we can take it back to hunter gatherers. Outside of modern western ideals, men have felt a sense of duty to give to those connected with them. Of course, there are people who don’t identify with this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 09:49 PM
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Things should be sexual quickly. Why should things be sexual quickly? N counts matter, STDs matter, pregnancy matters, safety matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:56 PM
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Hey, rich men like being valued for their resources 🤷🏽‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:35 PM
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The average Equinox patron is more likely to be gay than at other gyms, that’s really my only point. Sure, straight men go there too. Less of them than at other gyms.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:05 PM
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This is not true at all. There are specific Equinoxes that are disproportionately gay So, it’s true in some circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 07:00 PM
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Regarding the TikTok, it’s because she’s at Equinox. The men there aren’t approaching her because they aren’t interested. All of my gay male friends love equinox gym
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 08:44 AM
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You are reading between the lines and assigning the least charitable interpretation to one person in the equation. It’s not a subtle way of doing anything, it’s a woman trying to humanize her sexual experience with a man who she wanted to have sex with, but who made her feel devalued. Plenty of NSA arrangements exist where the people can like each other and communicate without any expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:36 PM
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She changed her mind because OP was acting like an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:34 PM
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Talking to someone like a human being is the bare minimum for interacting with them. If OP couldn’t do that, he doesn’t deserve to be having sex with anyone. You’re assigning so much stuff to this story that wasn’t there. You don’t know his value, and she didn’t want more, she just wanted humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 07:33 PM
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I don’t feel entitled, I just like dating men who actually like me and want to treat me. If a guy wasn’t interested in treating, I don’t expect anything from him, we wouldn’t date. Guys with your opinion feel entitled to have women be interested in you while lacking generosity, charity, or even affection towards them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 06:08 PM
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No, she didn’t. You can have conversations and be cordial with people you’re having NSA sex with. People even have conversations and get to know prostitutes, ffs. He wanted her to come over and he just sticks his d*ck in her, and she asked to have a bit more conversation first like two human beings. That’s not changing the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:21 PM
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Did we all read the same post? She didn’t ask to be dated, she asked for him to talk to her like a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:17 PM
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She didn’t even ask to change the arrangement. She asked for OP to talk to her like a human being and he couldn’t even do that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/23 04:13 PM
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The funniest thing about makeup hate is the only men who hate it are lonely men. Guys with girlfriends/wives/partners love to see their women go from au naturale to dressed up with 10/10 makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 03:32 AM
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R/tinder - I was chatting with this great girl, we made plans to meet up, and then she ghosted me? Women are bitches Women only use dating apps for validation She probably had a boyfriend Girls like her have problems Girls like her have no empathy Women are this women are that Whole time it was a man pretending to be a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 06:20 PM
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Most antidepressants don’t sedate you. Looking at the suicide statistics, maybe men should try to be like single women and actually get help for their sad feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:22 AM
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Reddit users are mostly men (~64%)… so men don’t care about other men, and it’s all women’s fault somehow?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:20 AM
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And then you ghosted all those guys and now they hate women and post here
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/23 04:15 AM
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For starters, how do you define success? If you’re looking for hookups and you’re finding them — congratulations, you’ve clearly been connecting with women who also want hookups. There’s certainly women out there who don’t want pushy men and won’t respond well to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 10:22 PM
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It’s context dependent. If someone is rushing to class and doesn’t know you, they’re going to be disturbed. If they’re studying in the library, they’re going to be disturbed. If they seem interested (genuinely smiling and making eye contact) you should feel free to introduce yourself and ask them out for coffee or drinks. If they are avoiding eye contact or not smiling, they are not interested. You don’t want to be branded as the person that harasses others on campus.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:59 PM
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I appreciate men that approach in socially appropriate settings, like bars, parties, social outings etc. If a man approaches in an inappropriate setting, it sets off alarms that he has low EQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:21 PM
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Culturally, the name Chad denotes privilege and Wikipedia associates Chad with “young & upperclass” so I don’t think I’m wrong here Plenty of geeks making 6 figures in Silicon Valley Speak for yourself. I love tech geeks ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:06 PM
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socioeconomic status
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 07:02 PM
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Are Chad’s just good looking guys? Because my perception of a Chad is a high SES attractive man with many options. Those men generally do not have offspring out of wedlock due to social pressure and cultural expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:28 AM
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I’m just constantly reminded that I’m talking to children on here. I wish there was a PPD for 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 12:19 AM
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I think most women want a partner, they’re just not interested in dating most people The fact that OP mentions tiktok pretty boys leads me to believe the only women he considers to exist are young instagram 20somethings. Women who want serious relationships aren’t on his radar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 09:19 PM
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I don’t speak for everyone, but cohabitating with someone you’re not engaged or married to is not desirable for a lot of women. I can see why guys who are seeking a relationship motivated by cohabitation are struggling.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:03 PM
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I wouldn’t agree, no, because I have a degree in the social sciences and work in social research. Abuse is more prevalent in lower SES populations. There is plenty of research on SES and domestic violence available for your consumption
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 08:01 PM
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Why would any woman go anywhere near a person like that is the question
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:16 PM
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60% of men are single You’re talking about men in their 20s who are mostly intentionally single, working on their careers, education, or building a life. Most men in their 20s aren’t trying to get into a serious relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:05 PM
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Context matters, population matters, and point in time matters. The okcupid data also pointed out how racist people are, how do you feel about that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 05:05 AM
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When they say “we need to support men’s mental health” they don’t mean we, they mean women. I could not have said it better than this, thank you. It’s so f*caked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:24 PM
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You can’t be supportive of your friends when women are around because someone might feel an ick? I think the weirdest thing about this scenario is that you withhold anything from your friends in fear of an ick from someone you’re not in a relationship with and who is irrelevant otherwise. A random woman in your friend group might get an ick from you being supportive to a friend? I’ve never heard of anything that mattered less.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:23 PM
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It’s tired. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 09:08 PM
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Men are thirsty for sex on dating apps, nothing to see here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:05 PM
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Exactly, 20s are all about exploration, career building, education, travel, dating around, and no commitment. Every guy I knew in his 20s were not interested in settling down or being claimed. Chronic situationship guys would consider themselves single
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:59 PM
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And it’s from the 2000s, for fucks sake. Completely irrelevant at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:55 PM
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most of them dislike men, and treat male mental health as a joke Men don’t even like other men or care about male mental health. The majority of volunteers for the suicide hotline I worked with were women btw. Have you or any guys here volunteered?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:53 PM
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Online women showed that 80 percent of them find men ugly Can we go one day without referencing a study from two decades back that used a desktop dating site where unattractive and undesirable people were most likely overrepresented? Can we? Can we try? Okcupid in the 2000s is not Tinder, Hinge, or Bumble today.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:52 PM
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Not everyone is relationship oriented, not everyone prioritizes romantic situations, some people are working on school, or their careers, or casually dating. The point is you said a "very large percentage of men get excluded" and the data shows that's incorrect, more men than not are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:27 PM
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Usually a man vents about dating, then women appear in the comments inventing all the reasons the man is not successful. Well, actually listening to the persons opinions and not discarding his difficulties would be quite empathetic. Honestly, there are spaces where you can vent and only get support and no suggestions. Then the response is like “Haha, I caught a dirty abuser misogynist!!! You’re not entitled to women you dirty neckbeard!!!”. It doesn’t seem very empathetic. Women here don't talk …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:13 PM
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Men clown themselves or get clowned from other men, women just move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:09 PM
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I think you're missing the trend that singleness is the norm in your 20s and most people end up in relationships by 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:09 PM
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That's a great point. How would you like random women you don't know to show you empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:08 PM
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I would actually argue against this, romantic attraction is a combination of being sexual attracted and emotionally attracted. I agree with you, so there's no need to argue. The high when people feel the most amount of attraction is in their teens to their mid to late 20s, which indicates it's the body trying to reproduce, and therefore is intentionally not unique. Right, the body is flooded with hormones, hornier than ever. That is it's own unique circumstance, I'm mostly talking about adults a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:07 PM
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more and more men are deemed as unfit for relationships because it is more important to be able to show off your partner on social media and brag about it You’re basing your perception on a subgroup of women. Yes, there are social media obsessed women who prioritize likes, followers, and an imagine. They’re usually attractive enough to get away with it and very popular. So, you’re upset that ultra desirable women that want their lives on display don’t want to date men who don’t look that great o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:42 PM
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Oh okay, well it sounds like single men are lucky then. You all should clearly be happy to be unpartnered.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:40 PM
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Comments like this reinforce the fact that there should be a separate PPD for teens and 20s, because you guys consider yourselves the only relevant demographic for some egotistical reason. Surprise, there are people who are not in their 20s (a lot, in fact) that are still relevant to the discussion of relationships in the modern age. People in their 20s aren’t the only people that matter. There is so much self-discovery, career building, life changes, etc happening in someone’s 20s. Most men wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:38 PM
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The solution to that isn't "make sure you always treat men either like shit or like inanimate objects", it's to treat them decently enough that it's not such a rare magical event that implies something "extra" when it does happen. Um, I never treat anyone like shit. I’m kind to everyone I meet, that doesn’t mean I’m extra involved or open to friendships with random men, because I’m not. Don't sit there and say "yeah, well, I tried once, but he was a dick, so I'm never going to give any man time,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:28 PM
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So at the end of the day it simply is a fact that a very large percentage of men do get excluded only based on traits they can't control. What are you talking about? 61% of men between 25-54 are partnered or married according to Pew research. The reality is most men actually do have partners and find relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:18 PM
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90% of men are completely invisible. there is no empathy to these men at all. they are essentially non-existent. Romantic attraction is supposed to be unique. We aren’t meant to be romantically compatible with everyone within a 5000 mile radius of us. Regarding empathy, many women have tried being friendly with men they weren’t romantically interested in only to learn those men only cared about one thing and could not just be friendly back. Women all learn from a young age being friendly to a gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:03 PM
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The fact that they had a relationship at all says enough darling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 11:50 PM
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A gal just commented saying it happened to her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:28 PM
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I get your argument, but it’s a little different here because Androids cost just as much as iPhones. There’s cheaper versions and vastly more expensive versions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:27 PM
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Pictures are fine, videos look absolutely atrocious, and group chats work just the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:26 PM
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Hahah thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:22 PM
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But she wasn't actually shallow because she dated you, slept with you, had a whole relationship with you despite it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:38 AM
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It's in-group / out-group nonsense. Cool, trendy guys and gals prefer iPhones. They prefer to have iMessage and associate Androids with the uncool and untrendy. I hate that this is a gendered phenomenon because I know for a fact if a trendy chad realized a chick had an Android he'd be turned off by it too, probably. I'm an iPhone user myself, but I prefer guys who have androids. The second I see green bubbles I know a guy is my type. 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 04:36 AM
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You’re projecting your own perceptions and ideas onto me, but I don’t hold them at all. You do. The majority of the men I know are dating, partnered, or otherwise married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:03 PM
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You’re projecting your own perceptions and ideas onto me, but I don’t hold them at all. You do. The majority of the men I know are dating, partnered, or otherwise married.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:49 PM
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Preferences are inherently shallow, but they were informed by my lived experiences. Sorry if that disturbs or upsets you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:20 PM
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All I can say is that I hope your life improves, because this conversation isn’t productive or helpful to you in anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:19 PM
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Stop trolling and antagonizing, it’s not cute
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:25 PM
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Having a job is masculine? Being 5’7” is masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:22 PM
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Exactly. Those sites were mostly undesirables and nerds :P
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:21 PM
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I haven’t dated a man who makes less than me since I was 23, so I did deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:19 PM
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Regarding tinder, women can barely make it through the amount of likes they get because the gender ratio is 4:1 (and as bad as 10:1 in some regions). If a woman gets 4,000 likes, there’s probably 3,000 of them she never even looks at. Tinder ITSELF pushes the most popular profiles right to the front of a person’s stack, therefore the same men get swiped on by design. It’s an algorithmic issue. There are profiles that are probably rarely shown to anyone. The problem self-perpetuates
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:15 PM
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First, the whole “guys are uncomfortable dating women who make more money than them” is a made up cope Weird, because that’s my actual lived experience as a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:07 PM
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Same here. Back when I didn’t care, I made more than two boyfriends in my early 20s and their insecurities destroyed the relationship. Now, I will only date men that make more because they are much more secure. SAME with height. I didn’t care how tall someone was and dated two shorter guys as a teenager and after a couple months they started constantly mentioning my height, asking me not to wear certain shoes, literally grimacing if our height difference was more pronounced than usual. Now… I on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 03:04 PM
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In the 2000s, it was not very efficient for hookups. It was alternative. And that’s where the data is coming from. And Okcupid was not a phone app during this study, it was literally a desktop website.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:40 AM
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Most people are not partnered This fact is supported by the census, I don’t know what to tell you. Females judge 80% of men as unattractive on Dating Apps Have you ever pondered the thought that unattractive or below average men may be overrepresented on dating apps? While men choose 50% of females They’re simply open to fornicate with a woman they deem passable, they don’t find 50% of women respectable, worthy of love, investment, marriage, children, and relationships. No one cares about fleeti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:38 AM
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Using the female delusion calculator, an unmarried man making at least 80k and being 6’ tall is only 1.1% of the population. Who is making up the rest of this 20%? I’m waiting for you to define it because the numbers aren’t adding up. Who is included in your 20%?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:31 AM
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What does that have to do with most people being partnered?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:46 AM
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The most popular study for the misconstrued 80/20 idea was the OKcupid research done in the mid 2000s. Is it really unreasonable to assume below average men were over represented on a desktop based dating website, when in-person dating was otherwise much easier for attractive men? The male profiles in question, when you give this an ounce of thought, probably included mostly below average men to average men and hardly any “top” men at all, especially for the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:23 AM
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80% of women are chasing the top 20% of men. 50% of men and 50% of women are married or partnered. On what planet are 80% of women chasing 20% of men, because it isn’t here I cannot believe I was downvoted for pointing out the reality that nearly the majority of people are married or partnered, and nowhere do 80% of women chase 20% of men. Disturbing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:14 AM
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But even that is not scientifically accurate. What is the operational definition of “the top 20% of men” and how can you possibly infer that 80% of women are attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:13 AM
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If I’ve learned anything from this sub, most men resent women. Simps are rare, but somehow they’re ruining everything for everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:57 PM
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I was just trying to help you out. I’m sorry if you said something you didn’t actually mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:18 PM
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I make a point to never look at them when walking the around the property. To be honest, that probably makes the women in your building feel unsafe. If you can’t figure out how to pleasantly say “hello, how are you” and carry on about your day, they might think you’re weird. It’s normal to acknowledge humans in your vicinity if you see them regularly. The fact that you avoid eye contact and pretend they don’t exist is kind of menacing tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:22 PM
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I think his level of attractiveness wasn’t the reason he was a virgin. Ugly men can get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:18 PM
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Visually non-offensive - facial symmetry, youthfulness, proportional, average or above, which are objective measures of attractiveness. If you want to argue about the definition of objectively attractive, why not say what you think it means?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:07 PM
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It's this common narrative that Rodger could have easily attracted women if he had just tried a little harder but it's not clear if that's the case. That’s not the narrative I’m spinning here. Having a warped sense of reality and self-defeating thoughts require serious mental work to overcome. There was no “trying harder” for him… he needed serious help
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:52 AM
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I didn’t personally find him attractive, however, he was not obese and visually non-offensive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:45 AM
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We talk You mean you bitch to women online throw it back in our faces I’m sorry someone called you out for only caring about the suicide rate when you’re arguing online and literally no other time. I recognize how uncomfortable it might be to know that about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:47 PM
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Elliot Roger is a great example. He was an objectively attractive and rich guy whose number one issue wasn’t that women didn’t want him, it was his own self-defeating thoughts, completely warped sense of reality, and victim mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:37 PM
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Right, so 4 damaged women with no self-respect procreated with a felon, and you think this is a snapshot into the lives and desires of women? Honestly, it sounds like you know some low class uneducated people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:32 PM
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The most suicides are from men yet you lonely guys aren’t mobilizing in any way to stop it, you only weaponize the statistic when arguing with women online, that’s literally the only time you give a single solitary shit about the suicide rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:26 PM
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Woman replies with the exact things that a man does to raise his social status. That doesn't matter to a man. But when I say I bring myself, my love, my adoration, my company, my companionship and partnership you guys say that’s not worth anything, either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:24 AM
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It’s not an option at all. Taking on niceness is unattractive because other human beings can sense when you’re being disingenuous. But that’s just my own opinion. How has it worked out for you thus far?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:19 PM
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I’ve rebuilt friend groups in different cities as well. I started with joining workout groups, hiking groups, attending social events for professionals, coffee meetups, concert outings, you name it. Turns out the people who attend such events are also looking for friends, and so we find each other. And those friends introduce you to who they know and so on and so forth. I’ve lived in my most recent city for 3 years now and I literally cannot handle another friend, I have too many.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:16 PM
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everyone knows that the older you get, the harder it is to meet friends and expand your social circle This is an insidious and pervasive cultural narrative that needs to be challenged. The only thing that makes it harder to meet friends as an adult is the fact that you are no longer forcibly confined in a room with your peers. You now have to seek those peers out and develop relationships with them. But it’s not hard, it just requires intention and effort. If you operate from the assumption that…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:11 PM
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I agree, certain things matter at different intervals in the relationship. Initial chemistry is about attraction, connection, communication, vibes, and desire. Some of this is irrational and solely based on feelings and intuition. You cannot know if someone is a good person after one date or even 4 dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 07:02 PM
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Fruitful discussion is difficult here because the majority of male posters don’t understand dating, women, or even other people for that matter. I recognize a lot of the posts and thoughts here are from nice guys, people who performed niceness in hopes of getting romantic attention only to conclude, ABOVE ALL ELSE, that women must not like nice men. Being fake friendly and fake nice isn’t attractive in any gender, yet that’s every guy’s first and only “plan” to get women. They’ve all ended up he…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:36 PM
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Understandable, but not in my opinion. I enjoy the dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:16 PM
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It’s happened before and I don’t consider it an example of benevolent sexism in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 08:45 AM
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