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| 1 | Why Men’s Rights Often Don’t Get Taken SeriouslyThe bill presumes that shared parenting should be granted in the abscences of evidence against shared parenting being in the child's best interest.Feminist's lied and claimed that it imposes mandatory shared parenting regardless of whether or not it is in the best interest of the child.That is the lie that i'm calling out. They have also admitted to being biased in favor of mothers getting primary custody.Their intentions are clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 02:46 AM |
| 0 | Why Men’s Rights Often Don’t Get Taken SeriouslySo if you're not against the bill,then why are arguing against me calling out feminists for opposing the bill? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 01:43 AM |
| 0 | Why Men’s Rights Often Don’t Get Taken SeriouslyThe bill takes the child's best interest into account.I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 01:03 AM |
| 0 | Why Men’s Rights Often Don’t Get Taken SeriouslyThe bills they argue against do consider what is in the best interest of the child.That is just the lie they tell to oppose the bill.It is obvious what their actual intentions are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/25 12:06 AM |
| 10 | The gender war epidemicThat's has nothing to do with the fact that during those times, sons were the favored ones Yes it does,it is a strong counterexample to what you're claiming.You just dismiss it because it doesn't fit into your narrative.Of course if you choose to just ignore male disadvantages and discrimination.You will come to the conclusion that men and boys are favored over women and girls.That is what happens when you have an ideological bias. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/25 12:29 PM |
| 4 | The gender war epidemicThis is the crux of the gender war. Ceasing to discriminate against women isn't some grand act you should be commended for--you quite literally admitted it was the right thing to do. The fact that men think women should have warm feelings because men took the boot of their neck is problematic. The boot wasn't on your neck before,it's just that you minimized or ignored men's contributions and sacrifices intended to help women,and exaggerated female disadvantages and discrimination. Men died in wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/25 03:19 AM |
| 14 | The gender war epidemicMen have been told that they are "special" for centuries at the expense of women, but not suddenly it is a problems when women are lifted up. I bet the men who were handed white feathers by women,and labeled cowards for not enlisting in the military felt really special /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/25 02:50 AM |
| 9 | How has the success of the Netflix series "Adolescence" helped men?But i’m sick of men telling me I’m paranoid, that i’m too distrustful etc. you know nothing. You don’t know how men treat women. You dismiss anything that’s not picture perfect. You have 0 stakes there. The only thing you care is that women are not jumping you as fast as they would’ve if they felt safe. Your ego is wounded that someone is suspicious and doesn’t trust you from 1 moment they see you. That’s it. I’ll put my safety always first and i don’t care about your ego (until you’re near me a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 12:38 PM |
| 17 | How has the success of the Netflix series "Adolescence" helped men?You're acting as if your first comment wasn't intended to get men to shut up,and assert moral dominance over them.When the other commenter shared his experiences to knock you off your moral high horse,all the sudden you're "being attacked". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/25 12:22 PM |
| 1 | The “women are wonderful” perception sustains because of legitimate differences between how the genders interact with the worldYou seem to be making the case that this is not at all a bias,and is actually explained by differences in how men and women behave.However,the problem with this claim is that the same behavior in men and women are not even perceived the same way. Study 1 participants assumed a harmed target was female (versus male), but especially when labeled ‘victim’. Study 2 participants perceived animated shapes perpetuating harm as male and victimized shapes as female. Study 3 participants assumed a female … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/25 03:18 AM |
| 7 | Accountability and MenThere were always men who listened to women for some reasons, and they were always in overwhelming minority. Or they could listen to one woman, usually a mother or a wife, and that's it. Overwhelming minitory?Let me get this straight.I give examples of famous male celebrities and politicians who are openly feminist.Feminist Intiatives that are collectively supported by millions of men,and multiples studies showing that people(men and women)have pro-female biases.Then you come to the conclusion t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 12:43 AM |
| 7 | Accountability and MenIt is a fact that men listen to other men while ignore women, we women know that. That's why feminists asked for this. To try to notice that, call it out. It happens way more than you think. No, really. There are feminist campaigns that collectively,millions of men are involved in.Heforshe,the White Ribbon Campaign,Nomas,walk a mile her shoes are some examples. There also famous and powerful men who are openly feminist. Obama Terry Crews Justin Trudeau Antonio Guterres These male celebrities Thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/25 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Response to feminists who justify any/all injustices towards men with "But who set that system up"NOW is the largest feminist organization in america. | /r/MensRights | 12/08/25 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Response to feminists who justify any/all injustices towards men with "But who set that system up"My understanding is that they want women to be included in the draft now.There reasoning for that has nothing to do with concern for the wellbeing of men,or even wanting to take on equal responsibility.There concern is that women not being included in the draft would contribute to the notion that they're less physically capable and competent then men.I didn't hear any prominent feminists' get outraged about the men in ukraine and russia who got drafted. Feminist are not motivated by compassion f… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/25 11:35 PM |
| 4 | Response to feminists who justify any/all injustices towards men with "But who set that system up"Sure we don't get to blame women for the creation of draft,but if there demanding equality it is absouletly fair to criticize them for not including issues like the draft in their discussion on gender equality,and in some cases even perpuating these issues. Women were involved in the white feather campaign to shame men into enlisting in the military. One of those women was a feminist named Emmeline Pankhurst.She contributed to the perpetuation of the draft,while she demanded equality. It is not … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/25 07:17 PM |
| 5 | Response to feminists who justify any/all injustices towards men with "But who set that system up"Men don’t bring up issues like the draft to blame women.They do it in response to claims that they're so privileged compared to women,and that they are part of the oppressor class. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/25 06:32 PM |
| 2 | I am tired of hearing how women are allegedly discriminated against, when in real life I can see lots of blatant discrimination agaisnt men insteadPerception is reality,and people have this perception that misogyny is pervasive and women face discrimination everywhere.So they're going to look for discrimination against women even where it doesn't exist.In constrast,blantant discrimination against men is either ignored or rationalized as not being discrimination.This is due to biases people have which makes it harder for them to perceive men as victims and women as perpetrators.Feminists' exploit these biases to promote their movement. Man … | /r/MensRights | 10/08/25 11:32 PM |
| 5 | "men get more healthcare funding" and why that's a lieYep,they selectively choose what information to present to create a narrative that women's healthcare is being ignored.For example they will point out that only 14% of nih funding is female specific,and by itself that sounds bad.Until you consider the fact that only 6% is male specifc and the remaining 80% is for both sexes.They will claiming that women suffer more years in poor health,but leave out important context by not mentioning that women live longer then men.So proportionally there not a… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/25 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Are there stats about how women could actually "stop whining and do shit themselves" before feminism ?I would think giving examples from well before the 1970's would have been even better,but i guess not. So here are these examples. Muriel sierbert(buisnesswoman)-1928-2013 Estee Lauder(buisnesswoman)-1908-2004 Oprah Winfrey(buisnesswoman)-1954-present day The first two women were single their entire lives.Oprah wasn't in a relationship until the 80's. So are you going to admit you're wrong now,or just find something else to nitpick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 12:58 PM |
| 2 | Are there stats about how women could actually "stop whining and do shit themselves" before feminism ?Single women were considered femme sole,and were allowed to have there own bank accounts prior to the 1970s.If you don’t think this is the case.Explain how Susan b Anthony was able to be a financially independent single women her whole life.Also,the other commenter cited Sarah Howe.She ran a successful ponzi scheme based on the idea that she had a bank made specifically for unmarried women.That could have never been seen as plausible,if that wasn't something unmarried women were allowed to do.Al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/25 02:54 AM |
| 1 | Are there stats about how women could actually "stop whining and do shit themselves" before feminism ?There were women who were literally bank presidents. https://www.loc.gov/resource/sn86090439/1898-05-25/ed-1/?sp=3&clip=2271,3412,1210,1152&ciw=681&rot=0 https://www.loc.gov/resource/sn88085421/1906-06-19/ed-1/?sp=5&clip=3410,4324,1681,1601&ciw=681&rot=0 https://www.loc.gov/resource/sn87058235/1898-11-16/ed-1/?sp=1&clip=2832,801,4320,4115&ciw=681&rot=0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/25 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Are there stats about how women could actually "stop whining and do shit themselves" before feminism ?The other commenter disproved your claim,and then you just move the goal post.typical feminist tactic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/25 12:47 PM |
| 3 | The Tea App proved the vast majority of men are bad man, women have no choice but to accept polygamy/settle or stay single.There is an entire global movement dedicated to addressing women's issues and it is backed by very influential and powerful men.Obama,Terry Crews,Justin Trudeau,and Antonio Guterres are a few examples. There are also multiple organizations,and campaigns men are involved in that address issues like violence against women,and women issues in general.The White Ribbon Campaign,Walkamileinhershoes,Heforshe,Nomas, etc. Collectively there are millions of men involved in these initiatives to address wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/25 12:15 AM |
| 13 | Silencing of Men by feminismYep,feminist constantly try to prevent men's issues from being recognized and addressed,and using censorship is one of the ways they do it. Hack: uni students clash at screening of The Red Hundreds March for men's rights Janice Fiamengo speech Ottawa u disruption Men's issues group failed to get ratified Warren Farell Protest at University of Toronto feminist protesters at u of t pull fire alarm Thirty Years of Denying the Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence: Implications for Prevent… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/25 09:06 PM |
| 8 | Feminist vs male rights organizations in the US: 988 to 3? What’s going on here ?NOMAS is a feminist organization. | /r/MensRights | 02/06/25 12:49 AM |
| – | Women’s bodies are respected and protected more than men’sFrom one hand, women struggle more with abortions bans An abortion is a procedure that can only be done to women. So what are you comparing here?This is like me saying men struggle more with paternity fraud. getting doctors to take their pain seriously, being involved in medical research and tests (a lot of them were conducted only on men I have a post addressing both of these claims. It is titled "My analysis of the claims of medical misogyny and andronormativity in healthcare".I don't know if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/25 06:33 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionUsing violence as a way to free yourself from oppression by killing your opressor,is very different from using violence to protest something.When you are actually being oppressed,you know that violent resistance is far too risky to just be used as a form of protest.so you only use violent resistance to try to overthrow your oppressor. When you are a free citzen and you have rights,you feel more embolden to do a violent protest because the consequences aren't as severe. You may get beaten,exposed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 05:02 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionI cite primary sources to backup what i'm saying,but i am the one denying history?Ok,whatever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 02:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionThey were not punished for just demanding a voice.They already had a voice.If they didn't it would not have been possible for them to start campaigns to get legislation passed.Which was the case for Caroline Norton. It would also not be possible for them to create organization with the goal supporting or opposing certain legislation.I already gave examples of this with the papers I linked in my previous comments that showed that there were anti-suffrage and suffrage organizations led by women. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/25 01:54 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionCalling it “hostility” because women refused to stay quiet about injustice says more about your discomfort with confrontation than it does about feminism. Women didn’t come out swinging, they started with peaceful protests, petitions, and public speeches. And when those were ignored or mocked, they pushed harder. That’s not hostility. That’s persistence The Declaration of Sentiments was the start of feminism.Elizabeth Cady Stanton described men as tyrannical oppressors of women,and lied about th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 10:11 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionMen only begrudgingly gave women the vote. Since then, the majority of women and a minority of men have fought extremely hard and persistently for women's emancipation for almost 100 years. We did it together. It was not something that men decided to graciously give us. Most of you have been extremely uncooperative and are still to this day the biggest barriers to women's progress. And it only goes to show how flimsy and fairweather that alleged support was that the minute men stop getting socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 05:16 AM |
| 10 | CMV: Western men have been too empathetic towards women and female issues and we are seeing a course correctionThis isn’t a “change my view” post, it’s a tantrum. Women didn’t gain rights because of male empathy - they fought tooth and nail for them. Were ostracized, beaten, and jailed for them. Acting like we should be eternally grateful for basic decency is laughable Women did not fight tooth and nail for their rights.Since the beginning of feminism,they expressed their grievances in a hostile manner,and have continued to do that throughout all the waves of feminism. They have managed to gain a massive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/25 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance.I wouldn't call guiltying men into giving you privileges,by telling them how horrible they are,fighting.Also,you cannot compare the difficulties faced by mra's to feminism.Feminist's have been able to achieve so much despite being very hostile and radical with their activism.This is not the case for mra's.I have a comment that I made under a different post in this subbreddit,that shows the stark contrast in how receptive society is to feminism vs men's rights activism.I will paste it below. Femi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/25 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Women and girls need to be taught to be nice to their male partners, just like men and boys are taught to be with their female ones. The failure to do this is really tearing the social fabric and killing romance.Which link? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/25 05:20 AM |
| 5 | New study confirms women don’t get “unconditional love” as defined by the redpillThe 2009 Cancer study you referenced did involve 515 patients, and no, it didn’t track who initiated divorce. But it found a dramatic difference—20.8% of women were divorced or separated post-diagnosis compared to just 2.9% of men. That’s not something you can easily dismiss, especially when it aligns with a growing body of research. Calling that “conjecture” ignores the very real gender disparity in outcomes. So you consider a study that found a 7x difference to be in alignment with other studi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/25 01:05 AM |
| 6 | New study confirms women don’t get “unconditional love” as defined by the redpillFor starters, some studies do look at who initiates the divorce—and they’ve found men are more likely to leave when their wife gets seriously ill. One of the most cited examples is a 2009 study published in Cancer, which found that in cases of serious illness like cancer or MS, about 21% of marriages ended when the wife was sick, compared to just 3% when the husband was sick. That’s a pretty big difference, and the researchers directly said men were more likely to leave. You mean this study with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 06:37 PM |
| 30 | New study confirms women don’t get “unconditional love” as defined by the redpillThis claim has been addressed multiple times,and yet it still persists.The available evidence does not backup this claim that men abandon their sick wives more often then the reverse. First off,none of these studies look into the actual causation for divorce after a sposue becomes sick,or even who intiates the divorce.They only look at correlation between onset illness and divorce or seperation for a certain period of time or longer.There are other reasons for why a divorce or seperation could h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/25 12:30 AM |
| – | Men face more sexism than womenI disagree,the sexism women face legitimate or not is discussed by mainstream sources.The same can't really be said for sexism against men.I think there is a big difference in the visibility of men's and women's issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 01:37 PM |
| – | Men face more sexism than womenBut this is a result of all the standards of masculinity that I'm pretty sure women didn't create. If anything,women play the biggest part in creating this,since they are the ones who select men for relationships.I would argue that mate selection is the greatest incentives for men to be masculine.Why do you think the white feather campaign was done by women?It is because being shamed by women for not being masculine enough is more impactful then being shamed by men. Also,it is much more socially… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/25 01:32 PM |
| 0 | Feminism's claims are inherently unfalsifiableIt doesn’t matter,you should be judged by the most prominent members of the feminist movement.Just like with any other movement.You can't just claim feminists is not a hive-mind to remove culpability from the feminist movement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 01:47 PM |
| 5 | Feminism's claims are inherently unfalsifiableI agree,it is just one of the ways they try to prevent people from challenging their ideology.They also use censorship and biased research as well. Warren Farell Protest Men’s issues group fails to get ratified Feminist protestors at u of t pull fire alarm Thirty Years of Denying the Evidence on Gender Symmetry in Partner Violence: Implications for Prevention and Treatment Janice Fiamengo speech Ottawa u Disruption We’re All Terrorists Now Duluth Feminist Brainwashing,and Ideological Subversion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 04:27 AM |
| 48 | Regarding Jacqueline Ma’s 30-year sentence for abusing young boys and (some) feminist reactionsFeminist's using weak evidence to support their narrative as usual. Analysis of gender bias in sentencing data Gender and Sentencing in the Federal Courts: Are Women Treated More Leniently? Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases Women will only be jailed for serious crimes, Justice Secretary reveals Government no longer places girls in Young Offender Institutions 5 in 6 Men? A Response to Ally Fog | /r/MensRights | 13/05/25 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Men live life on easy modeOh and who caused those wars? Men. And who killed those men? other men. Men who experience DV have way easier time getting away by being significantly stronger and faster than their female partners. Men have no gender role expectations, costs are primarily split 50/50. The reason why male SA victims are less talked about is because they are a minority that is rare. Whereas women are raped at ridiculously high rates, yet lets of course make it all about men. Ok,none of this changes the fact that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/25 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why do (some of) you think that society just happens to cater to women's needs now, and ignores men's needs?This is pretty useless,because none of the sources cited in the article leads to anything that backups these claims.So I have no idea how they got any of these statistics.It could be completly made up for all I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/25 12:56 AM |
| 11 | Q4M: Why do (some of) you think that society just happens to cater to women's needs now, and ignores men's needs?Feminist activism wasn't easy initially. Even now, there's a ton of backlash. I don't know what you consider easy,but comparatively I would argue that it is much easier then men's rights activism.If we look back at the very beginning of feminism.When Elizabeth Cady Stanton gave the Declaration of Sentiments speech in 1848,she expressed her grievances about the treatment of women in a way that was very hostile and alienating towards men. Making them out to be oppressors of women,and not acknowled… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/25 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: Why do (some of) you think that society just happens to cater to women's needs now, and ignores men's needs?That has already been refuted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 05:06 PM |
| 1 | “The man is expected to do everything, all the woman has to do is exist and look good” - this statement shows exactly how patriarchy harms both men and womenHow do you define patriarchy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/25 02:16 AM |
| – | The idea that society can oppress one gender and favor the other is utterly delusional and exists just as an excuse to commit crueltySince the beginning of time men and women have NOT had it equal. It’s not just responsibilities either. There are still countries where women can’t even get an education legally. I assume you're talking about afghanistan?If so,the banning of women's education was a recent thing.This only happened when the taliban took over,before that women were allowed to get an education.if you look at video's of Afghanistan in 1970's you will see women dressing in western style clothing and attending universi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/25 01:45 PM |
| 12 | "If men suffer in silence, why do I keep hearing about it then?"Yep,that is the insane thing about feminist logic.When you point out all the ways women are advantaged and given preferential treatment,they argue that since women are oppressed it justifies all sorts of "positive discrimination" in their favor.This is literally a self-contradictory argument.If women are being oppressed in society,then society would not be doing anything to remedy their supposed oppression. Of course the premise itself is false,so the "positive discrimination" makes women privil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/25 05:53 PM |
| 41 | "If men suffer in silence, why do I keep hearing about it then?"Feminists who say this are searching for mra/antifeminist content online,and the algorithmn is feeding it to them. So their perception of how much men talk about their issues is being shaped by the content they see online. In general men don't discuss men's issues publically.The reason for this is because of the censorship,and shaming that happens when they attempt to.We have seen what happened to Warren Farell at the University of Toronto,or what happened at this men's rights march that was pro… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/04/25 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women's equal rights, which is a contradiction. Change this view.They are at the forefront of fighting against traditional masculinity. In fact every time they do, MRA keep claiming they are demonizing ALL masculinity and try to shut them down. So your just gonna ignore feminists' actions and just listen to what they claim their intentions are. Do you not see how that shows your bias in favor of feminists? Yeah....bc its fucking Warren Farrell. I'm all for talking about male suicide, but for the sake of men's advocacy, i think its a good thing to keep the guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 03:32 AM |
| 0 | Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women's equal rights, which is a contradiction. Change this view.This is often the case though (though women are rarely just passive) but men are the cause of majority of women's oppression, and majority of the misogyny they experience from day to day life.Whether you like that portrayal of women's oppression doesn't really matter when its the truth. Men in power are the ones with the ability to oppress both men and women.Feminist see those men as representative of all men.They completely erase men who are struggling and men who have been victimized.A good ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/25 03:24 AM |
| 0 | Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women's equal rights, which is a contradiction. Change this view.Dude, many of the issues MRA pretends to oppose are ones originally talked about by feminism, like men's pressure to lack emotion, and other man bubble negatives.. Talking about an issue,does not necessarily mean you actually want to address it.Feminist do not care about men's issues,and their actions show it.They may claim to want men to be free from traditional masculinity, and many of the negative aspects of it like not being able to express their emotions.Yet they fight to perpetuate traditi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women's equal rights, which is a contradiction. Change this view.Oh,you mean things like them opposing shared parenting,erasing male victims from domestic violence research,Creating the duluth model which ignores male dv victims and female perpetrators.What about opposing gender neutral rape laws,so that male victims of female perpetrators can't get justice.How about the constant downplaying,ignoring or erasure of men's issues by feminist. Like the fact that the Global gender gap report and other gender equality reports from these feminist supporting internat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/25 02:26 AM |
| -1 | Feminism was illogical at the start. It was about women's equal rights, which is a contradiction. Change this view.So essentially a feminist approved men's rights group?Those already exist and do nothing to help men.I think feminists' should stop censoring mra's,but they can't do that because they rely on censorship to continue to perpetuate their lies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/25 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Men do not love more unconditionally than women- men and women have different types of conditions of love.I'm confused are you disagreeing with my comment or agreeing with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 03:31 AM |
| 1 | Men do not love more unconditionally than women- men and women have different types of conditions of love.You think that one study that is an outlier compared to all the other studies on the topic represents the truth? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/25 02:18 AM |
| 2 | Men do not love more unconditionally than women- men and women have different types of conditions of love.A study published in Feb of this year that found men are 7 times more likely to leave their wives when fallen ill. I have not seen any other study that found a 7x difference except for this 2009 study with a sample size of only 515.If you have the new study can you cite it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 12:10 PM |
| -1 | Men do not love more unconditionally than women- men and women have different types of conditions of love.Men don’t statistically love unconditionally when their wives develop a serious illness This claim only appears true if you cherrypick studies,and draw your own conclusions from them,while ignoring the limitations of the studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/25 12:25 AM |
| – | The average woman today is more privileged than the average man.Now think of the 1 in 3 statistic What are you referring to? domestic violence What about it? violence to women being way more likely to be committed by men Ok,this a cherry picked statistic that overlooks the fact that men are the majority of homicides victims.Women are not being targeted for violence over men. So I'm not sure how women are disadvantaged compared to men here. On top of that,men are also considered the more acceptable targets for violence and death.The links are below. Effacing … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 03:47 AM |
| 8 | How to deal with nothing burger responses by the unwashed masses with regard to men’s rights?These kinds of responses come from the bias towards perceiving men as agentic regardless of how much agency they actually have.This is why all the responses to men's issues from feminists,are blaming men for their own issues.It is what intuitively feels right to feminists' and people in general,so it is very effective to just blame men,since people already see men as having lots of agency and therefore see them as blameworthy. That is why these responses are typically fallacious in some way.The … | /r/MensRights | 08/03/25 07:26 AM |
| 2 | Why Don’t Women Defend Men Like Men Defend Women?You are moving the goal post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/25 02:46 AM |
| 2 | Any arguments against "Misandry annoys, Misogyny kills"?I will paste a comment I made in response to this. Their beliefs about misandry and misogyny is actually just a reflection of how society treats misandry and misogyny.They perceive misogyny to be much more harmful,because society exaggerates how pervasive and harmful misogyny is, while downplaying how pervasive and harmful misandry is.Feminists' attribute every issue women face to misogyny,and we as a society believe it because of our preconceived ideas about men and women This allows feminist t… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/25 04:37 AM |
| 20 | New study tries to prove that society is less accepting of bodily autonomy for women than men, but fails to.I think what this research shows is that people care more about how bodily autonomy affects women.That is why there is even a debate about women's bodily autonomy in the first place.People have different views on whether or not it is beneficial to women to restrict their bodily autonomy. It seems like this is being interpreted as proof that society is more interested in restricting women's bodily autonomy,but I don't think that is true.I think this just means that it is a more contentious issue.… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/25 06:52 AM |
| 3 | Why is talking about men's issues seen as anti-woman? Even when you don't mention women or feminism at all?It is projection.Feminists' use women's issues as a way to make men feel guilty so that they are morally submissive to women,and will put up with poor treatment and injustice.So when you bring up men's issues they assume your trying to do to the same thing to women. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/25 03:38 AM |
| 4 | Excuses for misandry and the answer to thatTheir beliefs about misandry and misogyny is actually just a reflection of how society treats misandry and misogyny.They perceive misogyny to be much more harmful,because society exaggerates how pervasive and harmful misogyny is, while downplaying how pervasive and harmful misandry is.Feminists' attribute every issue women face to misogyny,and we as a society believe it because of our preconceived ideas about men and women This allows feminist to make misogyny out to be a much bigger issue then … | /r/MensRights | 10/02/25 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Feminism has made men weakI think anti-feminist content has a lot to do with this - often amplifying the worst voices for the sake of content creation has given men the illusion that feminists are either man hating, hysterical or that feminism and masculinity are at odds. Problem is, a lot of the men looking at this content end up being conditioned to avoid a lot of the more level headed voices. And I think it goes both ways - women are often fed the worst men to construct their world view, and other content creators lat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/25 08:33 AM |
| 6 | Honey Badger Observation of FeminismGreat video.This is what feminists' have done from the very beginning, complained until they got what they wanted. No truly oppressed group of people could use guilt to influence their oppresors.Yet feminist Emeline Pankhurst did that along with other women,when they participated in the White Feather Campaign. | /r/MensRights | 08/02/25 07:09 AM |
| 0 | Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues.Even in your own example the White Feather Campaign was set up by a man. Women blame men because, historically, men set up the system that made women economically dependent on men. Women were allowed to work. So I'm not sure what you mean.The closest thing I can think of is coverture,but that only applied to married women.if women were to stay single she was considered femme sole,and could work and make a living. It's not like women ever wanted that system set up. Men also defined what masculini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 10:57 PM |
| 5 | Feminism largely ignores women's part in shaping men and causing men mental issues.Men care alot more about female approval.That is why I find it ridiculous when feminist blame men's rigid gender role on other men,when women have the biggest influence on men's behavior because they can deny them sex and relationships.Think about why women were used in the White Feather Campaign.It is because we all know that men being shamed by women for not being masculine enough is much more impactful then being shamed by another man. Of course feminist never want to admit this,because ackno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/25 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Men dont care about men’s issue.Because they do absolutely nothing to try to grow. I suggested looking at MAGA, they act too good for it… even though Trump supporters have been more effective in combating man hating psychos than they are. No they want to insist theyre left wing, even though the democrats will not give up wokeism any time soon. They put themselves in a lose lose situation. So what exactly do you want them do that they aren't doing?Warren Farell has already been on shows like Oprah,and Dr Phil,and he wrote a let… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Men dont care about men’s issue.I don't think that is a fair comparison,republicans have numbers on their side,and they have powerful people representing them.Mra's are a tiny group in comparison,and I can't even name one celebrity or politician that identifies as an mra.When you don't have the numbers on your side,you can't use the same strategies,and shaming is much more effective against you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/25 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Yes, Women are Visual too, and get Horny the Same as Men, They just Don't Admit itPhysical arousal doesn't necessarily correspond with psychological arousal.This seems to be especially true for women in this context. One of the studies you cited said that both heterosexual and homosexual women experience strong arousal to both female and male sexual stimuli. So their stated sexual orientation doesn't match their patterns of physical arousal.This suggests that sexual visual stimuli isn't really a significant factor in women's psychological arousal. I think studies looking at b… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/25 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Most crimes are committed by men, by no gangster ever had difficulty finding women to share the spoils withIs there evidence for that claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 09:51 PM |
| 9 | Most crimes are committed by men, by no gangster ever had difficulty finding women to share the spoils withI think it is moreso risk aversion than being less violent. For example, women are just as violent when it comes to domestic violence because they know their partner won't hit back or will at least hold back on the amount of force they use. However, commiting violent crime against strangers is far more risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 06:28 PM |
| 1 | Empathy gap is real: Mother attempts to murder-suicide her son, people go, "Awww, poor women." If the perpetrator was a father, people would go, "Men are evil"There is tons of evidence supporting the empathy gap. It is real. Gender bias in Moral Typecasting A feminine advantage in the domain of harm-a review and a path forward Boko Haram(Nigeria) Comparing gendered and generic representation of mental illness in Canadian newspapers-an exploration of the chivalry hypothesis Reactions to male‐favouring versus female‐favouring sex differences: A pre‐registered experiment and Southeast Asian replication The Boy Crisis: Experimental Evidence on the Accepta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Men are 7x more likely to be victimized by a strangerActions > Words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 11:17 PM |
| 6 | Men are 7x more likely to be victimized by a strangerIt’s true that, as far as domestic abuse statistics - the number is closer to 40-60 and as far as sexual assault and rape committed by women, the number is hugely under reported - but we are talking about violent crime as a whole, not just domestic crimes I don't see how that is relevant to the point I was making. Whether it is domestic violence or stranger violence it is violence. My point is that in a situation where men are victims of violence, and those two factors you mentioned are taken ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 08:30 PM |
| 7 | Men are 7x more likely to be victimized by a strangerI disagree with your reasons.I don't think these are the real reasons why there is less attention towards male victims of violence. This doesn't explain why when looking at domestic violence against men where the perpetrators are mostly female, and the man is home not putting himself in a dangerous environment, there is still a lack of attention towards male victims. The real reason these stats are not talked about as often is because men are seen as the more acceptable targets for violence.We c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 11:16 AM |
| 12 | List of Sources Proving That Wife Beaters Were Punished Prior to the 1960'sYep,I have some sources addressing other claims feminists' make about history. Feminist claim that women not having voting rights was because men were just against it. Ignoring the fact that the majority of women were against universal suffrage,and that there were many men who were for universal suffrage. Never A Fight of Woman Against Man-what textbooks don't say about women's Suffrage Why Women Do Not Wish The Suffrage Suffragents-Men who worked for Women's Suffrage Feminist present coverture … | /r/MensRights | 02/01/25 04:13 AM |
| 5 | Hear me out and hold your pitchforks; patriarchy IS a thing, and acknowledging this is key if we hope to achieve men's liberation.There are lots of false premises and assumptions in this post. Women were not given agency (still are not in most of the world); those first women who sought to take it were treated horribly, as the suffragettes and feminists in the UK were, who were imprisoned and raped and then, when they went on hunger strikes to protest their treatment in prison, had feeding tubes shoved down their throats. Even after that stopped, they still suffered extreme social pressure and coercion to the end of the 20… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/24 08:42 AM |
| 6 | Stop making the patriarchy a thing. It’s not a thing.Feminists' would argue that men oppress women in a roundabout way that also ends up hurting them. My response to that would be to ask why they would do that if they have the ability to enforce overt hostile discrimination against women, and unilaterally benefit themselves. Wouldn't that make more sense if the goal was to benefit themselves at women's expense. This just goes to show how conspiratorial the whole idea of patriarchy is. It makes absolutely no sense if you just spend a little bit of … | /r/MensRights | 30/11/24 07:27 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women are far more violent towards those they have power over vs menThanks for finding the primary source. I think the main problem with the NVAWS is that it seems to suffer from the same crime filter that other crime surveys suffer from.Which filters out the majority of domestic violence cases. The way it's presented may lead respondents to think their being asked about a crime, which would make them only report more serious cases of domestic violence or cases that they felt were serious. This is what causes the gender asymmetry. Family conflict surveys present… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/24 02:44 AM |
| 1 | Common misconception: The fourth wave of feminism didn't descend into men-hating. Feminism was a men-hating movement from the beginning.Women weren’t allowed to own credit cards until 1974 when the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA) was signed into law. The ECOA made it illegal to discriminate against credit applicants based on gender, race, religion, national origin, marital status, age, or public assistance. All the equality credit opportunity act does is prohibit discrimination. This doesn't contradict what I said in my previous comment. That sucks he was jailed for being unable to pay her taxes but women could be sold at th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Common misconception: The fourth wave of feminism didn't descend into men-hating. Feminism was a men-hating movement from the beginning.For example, not being allowed to have credit cards to build up credit To my knowledge there was no law that said women could not have credit cards. There was just no law preventing banks from discriminating against women which is not exactly the same thing.The reason why banks might want to discriminate against women in practice is because women were not held responsible for paying their debt back then. It was their husband's responsibility. Banks wanted to ensure that a woman's husband could p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 04:45 AM |
| 0 | Common misconception: The fourth wave of feminism didn't descend into men-hating. Feminism was a men-hating movement from the beginning.Why does your argument ignore that women (of the past) had a lack of options outside of marriage pre-feminism? I don’t really blame them for being angry at men about their circumstances considering they lived it. Did you expect them to revolt politely? I also don’t blame trauma victims for their PTSD/anger towards what community of people have wronged them. I don't think that they have a justifiable reason for being angry at men in the past.Yes, life was hard for them back then, but life was als… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/24 03:11 AM |
| 18 | What is your response to "abuse towards women was normal back then"?I respond with a list of newspaper articles from the 19th and 20th century that mentions punishments for wife beaters. This includes legal punishments, and vigilante justice. Dreadful Assault Upon Wife(1855) Wife Beater Sent to Gaol(1879) A Maryland Wife beater Soundly Lashed(1889) A Very Practical joke on a Wife Beater(1867) It is Honorable to Beat up a Wife Beater(1910) Peter Malick Wife Beater Shot to Death By Mob(1911) Wife Beater gets 10 lashes at Baltimore Whipping Post(1931) Unknown Gende… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/11/24 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Common misconception: The fourth wave of feminism didn't descend into men-hating. Feminism was a men-hating movement from the beginning.I’ve been in this subreddit arguing with feminists a fair bit, and I think you’re doing something they also do. A few individually bad people does not a political movement bad. Elizabeth Cady Stanton is not just some obscure feminist.She was a very prominent feminist, and she is arguably the one that started the movement with her declaration of sentiments speech at Seneca Falls, New York in 1848. You can't write of prominent first wave feminists like her as" a few bad individuals" when they are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 10:00 PM |
| 0 | Men should (and are) show less sympathy towards women's issues in dating and in generalSo the boogeyman i made up was who wouldn't let women vote back then. Who wouldn't let women work. Who made it so women had to get married if they wanted a decent life. You think the boogeyman i made up is what allowed women to be domestically abused, or not have the right t a loan, open a bank, or buy a house. You think i just made up some monster that made it so women were forced to stay home and basically serve a man and never focus on her own career endeavors. You are seriously delusional. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Men should (and are) show less sympathy towards women's issues in dating and in generalThe vast majority of the perpetrators of those crimes, against both men and women, are literally other men. You guys always talk about "society" not giving a fuck about men, when it is LITERALLY MEN who are doing these things. Men run the government, men are the CEOs of almost all businesses, men make up 99.99% of gang members and criminals. Society is literally just a massive collection of men, and women, and by and at large, it's not women who are fucking everything up. Women are not responsib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 10:38 AM |
| 6 | Men should (and are) show less sympathy towards women's issues in dating and in generalThe movement that you follow is literally dependent on men caring about women,and you're asking this question? If men didn't care about women feminism would not even exist, and it certainly wouldn't be able to gain as much influence as it has.There are multiple initiatives to get men involved in feminism and women's issues. Including Heforshe which was created by the UN. NOMAS Heforshe White Ribbon Campaign Walk a mile in her shoes Men Engage There are also multiple instances of powerful,influen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 05:47 AM |
| 3 | radical misandry makes me want to kill myselfThose women who are online, are not anonymous, they show their face while saying blatantly misandrist things. They aren't afraid of any social repercussions for doing this.I think that speaks to how acceptable misandry is in society. | /r/MensRights | 16/11/24 02:39 AM |
| 6 | radical misandry makes me want to kill myselfI know you mean well, but it kind of irks me when people say this. Misandry is prevalent, socially acceptable, and extends beyond the internet. Below are some examples. The View calls men useless Sociology Proffesor Suzanna Walter's writes article titled "Why can't we hate men" Obama-men have been getting on my nerves lately Terry Crews describing masculinity as a cult, and claiming men don't see women as all the way human The View covers the man vs bear trend Baroness Jones suggests a curfew fo… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/24 01:25 AM |
| 10 | Women who vote for men to be drafted have been saying "your body, my choice" about men, for years.Also true for mother's who have their sons circumcised. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/24 12:15 AM |
| 4 | "Why are you MRAs making victimhood into a contest?" (quick rant)I noticed that too. A lot of feminist arguments are rooted in emotion whilst Male Rights Activist will actually link you the article and data. Or if talking about more social stuff, will link you videos/posts showing the double standards. Even other women are starting to wake up to how insufferable they are getting due to society cushioning them making them entitled. Look at the subreddits. In male rights activist they show the post/article/video then explain the double standard. In the feminist… | /r/MensRights | 27/10/24 10:58 PM |
| 1 | "Chinese Foot Binding" could have been women's own faultThe paper you cited confirms that "footbinding would improve girls' marital prospects" is a "common cultural belief", it's simply investigating whether that belief is rooted in reality. In other words, the paper is saying "This belief exists, but evidence shows that the belief is wrong", not "This belief does not exist" as you are trying to claim. Not sure why you thought I claimed that. I said in my last comment that it was done to girls with the belief that it would allow for upwards mobility … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/24 12:40 AM |
| 0 | "Chinese Foot Binding" could have been women's own faultFootbinding started with wealthy women to appeal to some elite men who found it attractive ,and then it was done to girls in a lower social class with the belief that it would allow for upward mobility in marriage. However, there is evidence showing that this was not the case. Mothers were also the ones who actually did the footbinding,and we don't know much about how acceptable it was among fathers, either way you can't place the blame solely on men, or claim that they intended to control women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | "Chinese Foot Binding" could have been women's own faultI couldn't find the book or the primary source for that claim,so I tried to look up who zhu xi was, and I didn't see any evidence of him ever being a ruler, he was more of a philopsher from what I've seen, and he apparently avoided public office and disliked men in power. He was also alive during the song dynasty, not the ming dynasty. This is very different from your claim that the government in the ming dynasty mandated foot binding. Also, I have seen sources claiming that the machus who lead … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 03:36 AM |
| 2 | "Chinese Foot Binding" could have been women's own faultFurthermore, in the Ming Dynasty, not binding your feet became illegal for a period. It was literally mandated by the (exclusively male) government to bind your feet. Do you have the source for this claim? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 01:59 AM |
| 4 | Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguiseThis Is what you're referring to right? I couldn't find the actual guardian article again, but I do remember seeing it, and I know she is definetly not the only one who says such misandrist things either. Sally Miller Gearhart wanted to reduce the male population to 10% of the total population, and she even created a plan on how to do it.Suzanna Walter's wrote an article titled why can't we hate men, and in this article she is actually trying to provide a justification for why hating men is ok. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 08:42 PM |
| 6 | Princess treatment is just patriarchy in disguiseFeminists' claim that men not being able to open up about their issues and vulnerabilities is due to "toxic masculinity", and that they're trying to fight against that. Yet whenever men get together to discuss their issues and vulnerabilities feminists' protest against it. Hack Uni students Clash at Screening of-The Red Pill Hundreds March for Men's Rights Warren Farell Protest at the University of Toronto Feminist Protesters at u of t pull fire alarm Men's Issues Groups Fail to get ratified War… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/24 05:18 AM |
| 7 | Is it true that MRAs use the word "misandry" meaning only women's hatred of men?“Misandry hurts mens’ feelings while misogyny kills women.” When they make this claim I find it very annoying, because it just shows how feminists' have the luxury of ignoring evidence and logic, and can come up with whatever claim they want. To make this claim feminists' cherrypick evidence, and make assumptions.They assume that every murder of a woman is because she is a woman, therefore it is due to misogyny. That is where the idea of rampant femicide comes from. Obviously you can't make that… | /r/MensRights | 18/10/24 04:20 AM |
| 9 | This is what conscription looks likeOk, so this discredits patriarchy theory. Men in power don't care about what benefits the average man, and they don't work with the average man to benefit men collectively at the expense of women. Instead they do what benefits themselves at the expense of everyone else, but more so men. This means you can't just blame men for their issues,and you're not justified in feeling resentment towards men in general. These are the implications of what you said, even though you weren't thinking about that… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/24 07:03 AM |
| 9 | This is what conscription looks likeI don't think it is fair to claim that the general populations in muslim countries often support abuse against women. The harsh restrictions and human rights violations against women come from the people in power.That doesn't necessarily mean the general population supports it. Take for example the massive protests that happened after the death of Mahsa Amini. Everybody was outrage when she died,and they were protesting against the Iranian government. We can also look at Afghanistan as another e… | /r/MensRights | 14/10/24 05:31 AM |
| 22 | This is what conscription looks likeI mean, that routinely happens in Muslim countries. In fact, it can be argued that things that happen to women in Muslim world are way, way worse than what is happening to men in Ukraine. Can you elaborate, from what I understand women in muslim countries have some restrictions placed on them, but are also entitled to provision and protection. It is particularly bad for women in Afghanistan,but I still don't really see how this could compare to being sent to fight in a war. | /r/MensRights | 13/10/24 07:51 PM |
| – | Feminists dehumanize men and it's time we admit itI don't trust men because of their actions as a whole. As whole, like worldwide, women are treated beyond horrifically by men. Women only have equality in 14 countries. There's 195. I genuinely don't believe most men believe in womens rights. I don't believe men believe women are equal or even should be. I genuinely believe if men knew they could get away with it that most would commit crimes against women, and frightening amount against children. This is false, also I find it odd that you belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 04:33 AM |
| 4 | Isn't it weird that it is normalized to berate and hate on men?Nope men are the ones who want to outlaw abortion. Women want abortions. It’s men making decisions for women. I mean, I showed you a poll that refutes this claim,but I guess evidence won't change your mind on this so I will move on. You can’t force women to kill themselves. We’re working full time men have to step up at home. Men do their fair share of work. Women do more housework then men, because they do less paid work then men. The Myth of the Lazy father For both moms and dads more time spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/24 08:14 AM |
| 4 | Isn't it weird that it is normalized to berate and hate on men?If we loved it so much why are we eschewing it now? Because we have the option. I don't think they necessarily loved it, but they probably preferred it under their circumstances. Like I said before,modern conveniences have made it much more comfortable for women to step out of their traditional role.Now we have comfortable office jobs, the birth control pill, modern time-saving appliances that makes housework much quicker and easier,etc. It is alot safer and easier now to be an independent woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/24 06:51 AM |
| 5 | Isn't it weird that it is normalized to berate and hate on men?Women didn’t want to stay home. They didn’t wanna have babies. They didn’t have a choice. They couldn’t get a credit card. They couldn’t own home. They couldn’t open their own bank account. I don't think that is a fair assumption to make, because contrary to what you may believe, women were not unilaterally disadvantaged compared to men in the past. They also had some advantages, which may have outweighed their disadvantages for some women. This anti-suffrage poster is a good illustration of wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/24 05:25 AM |
| 0 | The people at the top of the patriarchy are men, but that does not mean they have the best interests of their fellow men at heart.Marital rape While it is technically true that Marital Rape was not illegal in the 60's, it was still considered assault. You can see an example of this in the RV Miller case in 1954 forcing yourself on your wife was also not socially acceptable even before the 1960's.It also went, both ways there was no law against Marital rape for husband's. Farther back in the past impotence trials were a thing. marriage bars to employment Don't know about this one so I'll concede. no legislation of equal wag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 03:06 AM |
| 1 | The people at the top of the patriarchy are men, but that does not mean they have the best interests of their fellow men at heart.Well…yeah. That’s just another facet of the feminist view of patriarchy. Society is structured in a way that benefits men over women, and assumes male dominion over women. I disagree Obviously that’s been breaking down thanks to the efforts of feminists - shit that flew in the 1960s doesn’t fly now - but it’s still there. Can you give some examples of these things that were ok in the 1960's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 10:54 PM |
| 1 | The people at the top of the patriarchy are men, but that does not mean they have the best interests of their fellow men at heart.Not really feminists claim that patriarchy benefits men at women's expense, even if it comes at a cost to men. Which is why men uphold patriarchy.This is not true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 08:40 PM |
| 10 | As Taliban starts restricting men, too, some regret not speaking up soonerThis article makes it seem like most Afghan men fully supported the taliban when only women were being affected, and then all the sudden they stopped supporting the taliban because of the new restrictions placed on them. I don't think that this is a fair representation of what is going on for many reasons.First of all, We have to consider the fact that the consequences for speaking out against the taliban are extreme.You can be imprisoned or killed for opposing the taliban. I have a feeling that… | /r/MensRights | 24/09/24 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Gender roles mostly enforced by patriarchal systems This is not specific enough. Gender roles are a set of attitudes and beliefs about men and women and how they should act. The specific attitude that is responsible for men's issues not being addressed and/or receiving less attention is gynocentrism. Gynocentrism comes from the perception that men have more agency then women. Which makes people believe that we don't need to focus on men's issues, because they don't need the help, and we instead … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Systematic oppression? Lol at no other possible reason. So why does Systematic oppression affect men differently? You would have to explain that. Gynocentrism explains why men's issues are not treated the same. Systematic oppression doesn't. They aren’t to blame at all you just want to scapegoat feminists so you can justify your hate. You’ll never go after powerful men or violent men who oppress men you’d rather go after women advocating for their rights because you are scared of these men. I do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/24 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Gynocentrism is the reason why men's issues don't receive as much attention and initiatives to address them as women's issues do across the globe. What other reason could there be?Also, yes feminism is partially to blame because they exploit gynocentrism and use it to demonize men, and fight against social and legal equality for men. The duluth model was created by feminists, the National Organization for Women fought against shared parenting bills multiple times, Mary P Koss believes that men c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?I didn’t misrepresent anything men don’t like men either. The biggest threat to men are other men. And I never said or insinuated that patriarchy is good for men. The disparities you mentioned concerning men are probably worse under patriarchy so all patriarchy does is make it even shittier for everyone. You presented what people call a gynocentric society as just treating men and women equally, while ignoring the huge disparities in how this society addresses men and women's issues. That is a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/24 01:30 AM |
| 6 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?Everything you said is basically the feminist caricature of what men are like. Which is completely inaccurate, but the part I want to address is this. “Gynocentric” western society: Boys and girls can attend public schools. women and men can vote in elections and hold office. Women and men can inherit and own property. Women and men can divorce their spouses. Patriarchal Eastern society: girls barred from school. Women can’t vote. Women can’t go anywhere out in public without a male chaperone. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 11:55 AM |
| 11 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?We expect men who have been victimized by women not to express hatred towards women, even when we live in a society that downplays male victims of female perpatrators, and doesn't even recognize being made to penetrate as rape. The Duluth Model is very biased against men,and Domestic violence researchers have tried to suppress evidence of gender symmetry in domestic violence. Men's Victimization in general is more overlooked, and the MRM is a marganilized movement compared to feminism. Yet men a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 04:29 AM |
| 5 | Women who think hating all men is ok, what is your justification?But they do know that you’re more upset about words in reaction to violence and violativeness and permissive attitudes perpetrated by males than you are about the actual violence and violativeness and permissive attitudes that triggered the reaction. I really think that you and other feminists who make this argument don't have an accurate perception of reality. You're most likely looking at some comments made by trolls on the internet as representative of the general attitude towards violence ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/24 03:46 AM |
| 12 | Are Any Of These Real?I disagree, it's not really a 180.Women had disadvantages and advantages back then, and both men and women were expected to adhere to their gender roles. Now society is very one-sided and gynocentric. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/24 01:50 AM |
| 28 | This "men want sex" thing is too muchMen do have a stronger sex drive, and are more willing to have casual sex,but there is nothing wrong with that. Also, I agree that the vast majority of men are not rapists. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/24 01:40 AM |
| 11 | This "men want sex" thing is too muchAgreed, and it doesn't work the other way around due to gamma bias. If men were actually judged fairly as a collective, everyone would see that they have a huge net positive impact on society and understand how wrong it is to demonize men in general. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/24 12:54 AM |
| 1 | My Response to "Who Set That System Up? "Agreed, men and women both had to do what was necessary for survival, it is so absurd for feminists to think that men just created a system that is set up to benefit them at women's expense, and had all the power do it, yet they still end up disadvantaging themselves in so many ways. The male gender role was not only necessary for survival, but it also gave men better reproductive success, because women want men who adhere to the traditional male gender role. These are the two driving forces tha… | /r/MensRights | 11/08/24 05:49 AM |
| 2 | What the actual fuck.It annoys me that they get to say unsubstantiated nonsense like this, and people still take them seriously. What evidence does this person have to backup this very bold claim?It's incredibly unfair that they get to just pull stuff out of their asses, and it's on us to disprove it because their on the side of political correctness. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/24 11:51 PM |
| 5 | What the actual fuck.They are defining rape and "rape-adjacent behavior" in a way that implicates almost all men to support their narrative that we live in a rape culture. They are clearly grasping at straws,because it is so obvious we don't live in rape culture. If we did none of the following would be true. -Rape is both illegal and socially condemned. -Men who are falsely accused of rape deal with serious social consequences even if the alleged rape is not reported to the police. -Raping a woman is rightfully pot… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/24 09:28 PM |
| 6 | What the actual fuck.That is what I was wondering too. I think it is either them misrepresenting a statistic that includes sexual harrassment, sa and catcalling, or it comes from one of the surveys that uses Mary P Koss' methodology as you said. I'm not really sure though, because they don't cite their sources, and are often hostile towards people who even ask for sources in my experience. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/08/24 07:46 PM |
| 4 | Is our society truly a Patriarchy?The feminist definition of patriarchy does not exist. Feminists' describe patriarchy as men having most or all of the power, and using it to benefit themselves at women's expense. There is already alot of evidence that directly refutes patriarchy. This series of post on the empathy gap includes tons of studies showing pro-female bias,and my post includes some real life examples as well. This video discusses female forms of power, and how they are more covert and tend to be overlooked. So clearly… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/24 05:06 AM |
| 9 | RANT: Another 'stat' that won't die. "Rule of thumb" means that a man can hit his wife with a rod no thicker than his thumb.You're right, there was no law allowing men to beat their wives with a stick no longer than the width of their thumb.I believe this myth originated from a 17th century judge named Francis Buller, who allegedly claimed that you could beat your wife with a stick no longer than the width of your thumb. However, his claim wasn't accepted as an established law. Instead he was mocked and condemned by society for saying this. People even made a caricature of him called "Judge Thumb".This is a good pape… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/24 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Is there anything you agree with MRAs on ?Do I have to explain what I think is wrong with this statement? You said we don’t blame women for everything, we just understand that they’re the root cause of men’s issues! Capitalism is the root cause of men’s problems, not women. If capitalism is the root cause of men's issues then why doesn't it also affect women in the same ways? Women also live under capitalism. Capitalism is not the root cause of men's issues,gynocentrism is the root cause. Also,saying that gynocentrism is the root cause … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 03:40 AM |
| 2 | Is there anything you agree with MRAs on ?My problem with MRA is their insistence on blaming women for everything. It delegitimize men’s issues and makes it look like anyone who proclaims to care about men is a misogynist, which is not always true. I think MRA is too unwilling to recognize that men and women are often facing the same issues in different ways, and that working together is a better solution than attacking women. A great example would be be the draft. A lot of men’s rights people claim that compulsory military service for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menIs the Duluth model where arrests are considered mandatory? Yeah, I believe the DAIP staff did endorse mandatory arrest laws. If so, I wanted to share a fascinating piece of info: mandatory arrests apparently haven’t decreased mortality rates for women. But they have for men. Less men are killed by their intimate partner when mandatory arrests are a policy I wish I could find a link but it’s been a long time. The feminists who researched this concluded this was because women weren’t forced to ki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menFrom your link, Strauss states symmetry in violence but not outcome. He states 1/3 of injuries are sustained by men. I wasn't arguing against that. Although I do disagree with feminists who use it as a justification to describe domestic violence as a gendered issue. When I say gendered issue, I mean that it affects one gender in a distinct way, and requires a different response and maybe even a disproportionate amount of attention and resources. This is what I disagree with about feminists' view… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menThat statistic includes other things besides domestic violence, like stalking and ipv related impacts such as injury, and feeling unsafe or fearful. That is why there is such a large disparity. It comes from the NiSVS 2010-2012 State Report In the U.S., 1 in 4 women (27.4%) and 1 in 9 men (11.0%) have experienced contact sexual violence, physical violence, and/ or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime and reported an IPV-related impact (e.g., injury, fear, concern for safety, needing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 07:49 AM |
| 5 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menIf this is true, then call out your fellow feminists, who still push the false narrative that domestic violence is a gendered issues, and deny gender symmetry in domestic violence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 06:55 AM |
| 3 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menThe systems that oppressed women and benefitted men came about mostly from necessity (survival), ignorance, religious systems, and for a long time women were complicit in their oppression because no one really considered doing things differently. Why do you see it as system that benefits men and oppressed women, rather then a system that gives men and women a balanced set of advantages and disadvantages? Women may have faced greater restrictions in some ways,but they also had some privileges as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 05:50 AM |
| 4 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menI agree, but I think the commenter wanted examples of people alive today who have power and influence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 02:16 AM |
| 10 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menWell said, and they view everything through that lens, which leads to them using logical fallacies,and coming up with convoluted explanations when they are met with disconfirming evidence. For example, with the wage gap, the assumption was that women face pay discrimination. When you disprove that, they claim that other forms of discrimination prevent women from getting equal pay. When you disprove that, they talk about things like the motherhood penalty,and unpaid labor(housework). Which of cou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 02:12 AM |
| 9 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menYep, most of them don't reply because they are just looking for compliance, and don't care to have their beliefs challenged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 11:58 PM |
| 18 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menMary P Koss-Who is responsible for the oft cited 1 in 4 rape statistic. Even president joe biden cites her work. She also denies that women can rape men. Katherine Spillar - The Executive Director of the Feminist Majority Foundation and Executive Editor of Ms Magazine. She believes in the duluth model of domestic violence. Ellen Pence - The creator of the very influential duluth model, that influences police training, and is used in many batterer intervention programs. Gloria Steinem-She worked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:39 PM |
| 0 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menReproductive rights are your right to choose whether or not you have a kid. Women have more of a right to that then men. Even with the restrictions on abortion. The fact that they are the ones who bear children is a biological inequality, there is nothing that can be done legally about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:06 AM |
| -2 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menHow is banning abortion in some states an inequality for women, when men have no reproductive rights at all. They don't even have the option of a paper abortion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:36 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesThe basis is that Feminists' actions consistently don't align with their words. For example, they claim their about equality, but don't address men's issues and have actually done alot to discount men's issues and prevent them from being resolved.This is why the study is flawed. Have you ever heard the saying "nobody is the villain in their own story". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:22 AM |
| 9 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menYes. Because 50 years ago women were not commonly accepted into institutions or given the same opportunities because of their gender Don't know if that is true or not, but let me just assume it is. That justifies discrimination today? It seems like your advocating for equity, not equality. Why not just ensure that they have the same opportunities. Also,women have been enrolled in college in at least equal numbers since the 1980's, and now outnumber men. So even if you are advocating for equity, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:15 AM |
| 7 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menWhen prominent feminist organizations and individuals in the movement are misandrist, and fight against true equality, and the vast majority of their followers don't call them out. I think it is perfectly fine to paint with a large brush. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:36 AM |
| -1 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menDoesn't the field of gynecology already address that? Also, now that think of it, there are way less andrologist compared to gynecologist. So how this even an inequality for women in the first place? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:26 AM |
| 17 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menIt is simple. Prominent feminists' and Major feminist organizations are the only groups that matters when determining what is representative of feminism.These are the most popular and supported groups in the entire feminist movement, and this is where your average self-proclaimed feminist gets all their information. It is very fair to say that these groups represent feminism. Anybody else who deviates from that would be rejected by most feminists, and would be obscure individuals in the movement… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:24 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesIt's not baseless, they subscribe to an ideology that wrongfully vilifies men, and then they claim they don't have more hatred towards men.That is just absurd, and their is no reason for us to think they're telling the truth when they lie about so much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:14 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesIt is a study published in a feminist journal that relies on self-reporting from feminists. How is that a lie?This study doesn't prove anything except for the fact that feminists are dishonest. Which is not news to me. Feminist make so many false and/or misleading claims that it is hard to keep up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 04:48 AM |
| 2 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesNope, feminists don't actually hate men any more than men do. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/l4MzDik8vY Wow, feminists investigated themselves and found themselves not guilty. What a surprise. Yes, I already said that dudes here will come up with all sorts of excuses as to why mental health services won't help men's mental health, because they only care about bashing women. You have demonstrated my exact point flawlessly. You see it as an excuse because you don't care to inquire abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:35 AM |
| 1 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesFeminists care more about demonizing men then helping women. To address women's issues, they would much rather endorse solutions that involve blaming men in general,then actual evidence-based and/or practical solutions. One example is when feminists proposed solution to prevent rape is to tell men to stop raping. Even though that is just needlessly blaming men in general, and does nothing to deter actual rapists who don't care about the law or what is socially acceptable. When someone suggests t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:24 AM |
| 4 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesI completely disagree. Mra's are right to blame Feminists. Feminists are a major reason why men's issues are not taken seriously, and they actively fight against men's issues.They deny any culpability, because they are not in formal positions of power. However, they influence those who are in positions of power through lobbying, advocacy research, and campaigns.Then get to pretend like they have nothing to do with these issues because they are not the ones in the spotlight. It's really frustrati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:07 AM |
| – | Why do women's empathy disappear when it comes to male children?Yes, the patriarchy as you define it does not exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:45 AM |
| – | Why do women's empathy disappear when it comes to male children?Reality > Definitions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:23 AM |
| – | Why do women's empathy disappear when it comes to male children?The "patriarchy" does not advantage males at the expense of females like you think it does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:12 AM |
| – | Why do women's empathy disappear when it comes to male children?Every country in the world has a son preference, the only variation is how strong it is. This is not true. This research has found wide variations in the distribution of the types of gender preference across countries and regions. In the vast majority of countries, the most common type of gender preference is balance; that is, a preference for an equal number of sons and daughters. When we compare the prevalence of son preference relative to daughter preference, a large degree of variation becom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 06:55 AM |
| 5 | The Philly Man Who "Rubbed One Out" On A Woman In Dollar TreeI think we do ourselves a disservice when we take a situation as vile as this and then say, "not all men." This is why people turn a deaf ear to us. What this does is essentially says, " I know this girl is traumatized, but the real victims are us men." OK, I think I understand what you're saying. It looks bad optically.Alot of people do see it as us prioritizing men's feelings over the victimization of women. I don't think most of us intend to do that, but that is how it comes off. I do think t… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/24 10:11 AM |
| 5 | The Philly Man Who "Rubbed One Out" On A Woman In Dollar TreeI somewhat disagree, yes horrible men exist.However,that doesn't mean that we need to use the actions of those men to justify hating men in general.I have zero problems acknowledging that what this man did was disgusting,and I hope they do catch him. It is a horrible situation, but that doesn't mean we should allow bigotry just because people are emotional over what happened. Also, you say you don't care about his mental health, but that is likely the root cause of issues like this. Instead femi… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/24 07:31 AM |
| 3 | The Philly Man Who "Rubbed One Out" On A Woman In Dollar TreeIf you're goal Is to change their minds, then there is no point in responding to them. They have already decided that they hate men, and there is nothing you can say and no evidence that you can provide to change their minds. They hate men, and are only interested in rationalizing their hatred. That is why they only look for confirming evidence ,and interpret everything else in a way that aligns with their beliefs. Even if you give them examples of men being heroic or altrustic,they will try the… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/24 06:22 AM |
| 5 | Feminists literally can't accept that men also struggle because it would ruin their identity that women are victims and require them to take responsibilityShe is wrong. Mra's aren't only criticizing feminism, they also criticize gynocentrism which is the something that is ubiquitous throughout all of society,and all the systems that she mentioned. She is also doing the typical thing that feminists do, which is to find a scapegoats for men's issues so they don't have to take any blame for them. This is bullshit of course, we all know feminists exploit gynocentrism to pass and maintain legislation that discriminates against men. Their logic is that … | /r/MensRights | 16/07/24 10:17 PM |
| 10 | Why do women get triggered when they hear men invented 90% of the inventions ? I mean it's just a fact , I don't see any credit taking.The fact that they say it's taking credit for other men's achievements just shows how biased they are. They're perfectly fine generalizing men based on the crimes that a minority of men do, but they don't want to generalize men based on male heroes and/or inventors. This is called gamma bias.They try minizime the good that men do, and exaggerate the bad that men do. Feminists do this all the time. Some examples of them exaggerating the bad that men do is the claims of rape culture and the duluth… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/24 02:08 AM |
| 4 | If it were men that got pregnant (assuming nothing else about society changed), abortion would be banned everywhere lol.This argument seems to be based on emotional reasoning.This situation is hypothetical, so we have to rely on evidence that would suggest that this would be the case. With that in mind, I have no idea how someone could come to this conclusion using logic. We can just look at other rights regarding bodily autonomy that both sexes can be subject to, and see that men's bodily autonomy is not protected compared to women's. Genital Mutilation is one major example. All forms of fgm are banned in the Un… | /r/MensRights | 04/07/24 08:33 AM |
| 5 | More Fun with CDC Rape DataAgreed,it is good thing we have the internet archive to save this stuff.I checked and was able to find all of those web pages on there. https://web.archive.org/web/20111026024001/http://pn.psychiatryonline.org/content/42/15/31.2.full?eaf. https://web.archive.org/web/20100921180153/https://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0DXK/is_9_20/ai_104521293/pg_3?tag=content;col1 https://web.archive.org/web/20100113071151/http://www.realonlinedegrees.com/college-degrees-by-gender/ https://web.archive.org… | /r/MensRights | 29/06/24 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Just got the prove that they do not fight for rights and respect, they fight for retaliation and revengeI would be willing to admit that Coverture has elements of that given that a man would legally be able to spend his wife’s inheritance and she could not legally stop him (a woman could own property, just not independently of her husband). Also, alot of women still felt that they had ownership over their property under coverture.Which shows that in practice coverture was not really as restrictive as it was on paper. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/24 03:08 AM |
| 3 | Just got the prove that they do not fight for rights and respect, they fight for retaliation and revengeI don't think I would use the word oppression to describe women's situation in the past. Even though it is the case that women had restrictions placed on them under coverture, they also had entitlements. They were entitled to provision, and were not responsible for their debt. They also couldn't be held accountable for some crimes they committed. So I don't think I would call it oppression.there is actually an anti-suffragette poster(see page 466) that was about opposing suffrage because of the … | /r/MensRights | 25/06/24 09:33 AM |
| 3 | According to feminist, male expendability is caused by patriarchyEven if for the sake of argument I agree to call the society we live in now a patriarchy. Feminists don't do anything to fight against the aspects of "patriarchy" that harm men. They tell you that they do,but their actions don't match their words as usual. What their actually doing is reinforcing the so called patriarchy. Then they turn around and say, "patriarchy hurts men too and we are against patriarchy". Bullshit, their acting as if their powerless in influencing the culture, and the laws b… | /r/MensRights | 15/06/24 11:26 PM |
| 4 | Man vs. Bear is a divisive talking point and it just hit me in a vulnerable place.I don't really know if they genuinely don't understand,are being deliberately misleading, or if they're just so ideologically possessed that they cannot think logically because of their own biases. Sunny hostin from the view even repeated this flawed argument, and she is apparently a lawyer. So there is no way that she is just too dumb to understand why it is fallacious to compare those two statistics. I honestly think it is the latter more often. I just can't imagine that these people are actua… | /r/MensRights | 12/06/24 08:39 PM |
| 11 | Why are so many Feminist statistics accepted without scrutiny?while men's rights groups think that since you can account for the factors in the wage gap that there must be no discrimination at all. In reality, SOME of what was controlled for could be discrimination, so other information is required to determine what is most likely the case. The problem I have with this argument is that it shifts the goalpost. The wage gap was initially just a claim about pay discrimination. This argument demands that we prove that women are not being discriminated against … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/24 08:45 AM |
| 35 | Why are so many Feminist statistics accepted without scrutiny?There are multiple cognitive biases at play that makes people more inclined to accept feminist claims.A major one is that people have a biased perception of men and women. Men are viewed as having more agency so it is easier to typecast them as perpetrators, and women are viewed as having more patiency so it is easier to typecast them as victims. This is why feminist ideology was able to gain traction in the first place, and was able to eventually become massively influential. It already aligns … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/05/24 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Some "Feminists" assert that various women's health conditions such as Endometriosis and pain are supposedly dismissed by the medical establishment because of "Sexism".you can diagnose endometriosis with transvaginal ultrasound or magnetic resonance. you don't necessarily have to do a sugery. True, but their can still be many false negatives.So to really get a definitive diagnosis laparascopy is still needed. I think that is part of why it can be difficult to diagnose endometriosis in many cases. From what I have read that are many variables that can influence the likelihood of getting an accurate diagnosis. So, I think their is still uncertainty about the acc… | /r/MensRights | 04/05/24 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Some "Feminists" assert that various women's health conditions such as Endometriosis and pain are supposedly dismissed by the medical establishment because of "Sexism".There are other reasons for why an endometriosis diagnosis can get delayed. One of them is that the symptoms overlap with other diseases. So doctors may mistake endometriosis for other diseases. Another reason is the endometriosis can only be definetively diagnosed with exploratory surgery, which can be risky. This video is misleading, because it makes it seem like the sole cause of women's delayed endometriosis diagnosis is pervasive sexism. When this is a multifactorial issue. It is usually im… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/24 01:58 AM |
| 7 | Bear vs Man is Actually Perpetrating False AccusationsI think it is clear by now that there is no point where feminists will stop complaining about men. They revel in feeling as though they have righteous anger towards men, and being able to shame men into complying with their demands. They won't stop doing this even if we could somehow meet the impossible goal of stopping all violent crime against women. They would just find something else to complain about. Heck, even right now there are many examples of feminists complaining about fabricated or … | /r/MensRights | 02/05/24 12:55 AM |
| 3 | What do you make out of this study?I briefly looked at alot of the studies that were cited in this literature review. Two things I noticed consistently is that these studies had small sample sizes, and they were using clinical samples instead of nationally representative samples. Clinical samples include people who are in batterers program, women's shelters, hospitals, etc. The obvious problem with this is that it doesn't represent the general population. This is one of the many tactics feminist will use to find studies that back… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/24 09:03 AM |
| 7 | From a Outsider wanting to understand your viewsI see that with alot of people who argue against mra's. Their interaction with one member of this sub dictates how the view mra's in general.I always tell them to go look at prominent figures in the movement like Warren Farell. They are actually representative of the men's right movement. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/24 12:42 AM |
| 2 | Can you say that patriarchy is victim blaming?It is also gaslighting too. The society we live in is not setup to benefit men at women's expense. Which is what they claim the patriarchy is. It is really baffling to see how delusional feminists are when they act as though they are the underdogs fighting against a society that is hostile towards their movement. In reality, we live in a society where feminism is a mainstream and socially acceptable ideology. This can be seen in so many ways. We have famous celebrities both male, and female open… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/24 03:31 AM |
| 1 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"True, but I wanted to show that even by their own standard of evidence the difference is not that much. They try to make it out to be this issue of pervasive sexism against women, but they don't have the evidence to support that. Even the studies people cite showing pain treatment disparities between men and women are observational studies. There is no way to account for ommitted variable bias.I made a post about this. I think the most sensible interpretation of the evidence is that this is some… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 11:55 PM |
| 5 | I saw this add a few days ago and felt really disgusted, It comes across as one of those 'only women can experience' yet it's clearly alluding to chronic pain and comes across as more of a low effort in research such as with the stupid line of "1 in 2 women feel like they've had their pain ignored"In the video they tell you that there is a gender pain gap, but they don't actually compare statistics with men. So I looked up the report that they cited in the video and in it I found the statistic they mentioned on page 3, and they also give the statistic for men. Here it is. The Gender Pain Gap Index research paints a clear picture: over half of Australian women (55%) feel their pain is ignored or dismissed, compared with just 48% of men.6 Additionally, 32% of women who felt that their pain … | /r/MensRights | 12/04/24 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Why Men "leave their sick spouses" My Experience.This story shows that we really don't know why couples divorce when their spouse is ill, but as usual feminists will jump to the conclusion that paints men in a bad light. Of course to feminist all the men are just heartless assholes who abandoned their sick wives. In reality, it is typically not the case that there is one single explanation for a phenomenon. Maybe it was medical divorce, maybe they had issues prior to their spouse getting cancer and were already planning to divorce. I have also… | /r/MensRights | 11/04/24 11:41 PM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1The problem is that you take statistics and draw conclusions that are convenient for you, because even if there are differences in divorces and marriage rates, this does not mean that hypergamy is to blame. There can be many reasons for this, for example women may get divorced from a bad marriage if they can earn enough money to live independently. I also posted studies that show that men themselves worsen the quality of marriage where a woman earns more; this could also be a reason and it is re… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/24 07:54 AM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1I think the reason why we keep going back and forth, is because of a lot of these studies we are citing are correlational and not specific enough.So there is always some other possible explanations that can be brought up. However, I think if we look at studies that really directly address very specific research questions, then it becomes clearly that hypergamy is innate. This article actually includes alot of relevant studies. Also, another thing to consider is the fact that the male love intere… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/24 09:10 AM |
| 5 | The "Women And Children" NarrativeYou seem to be talking alot about changing gender norms, but you seem to be unaware that you are actually perpuating them by assigning a greater amount of agency to men. The idea of patriarchy relies on this premise that men have all the power. This is just not true, men are human beings not gods. The idea that their solely responsible for our culture is just absurd. Historically both men and women had to worry about the problem of survival and reproduction. This is where culture stems from, the… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/24 08:44 AM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1I think when we start talking about the risk of marital dissolution, it becomes difficult to understand why it is happening.For example,this study has a section on pg. 17 titledFemale Breadwinning is not a Permanent Income Arrangement. In this section they explain that the proportion of female breadwinners is not the same at different ages. So it could be possible that female breadwinning is just a temporary income arrangement that would not be tolerated long-term. In the background information … | /r/MensRights | 04/04/24 09:56 AM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1It does show that the claim is very exaggerated though,and like I said in my previous comment I don't think these stats show the full picture.One thing we have to keep in mind is that there are now more women in tertiary education then men.So it is actually becoming more difficult for women to even be able to marry up in the first place. Which makes it unsurprising that there are now more women "dating down" then before. However, this does not necessarily reflect changes in women's mating prefer… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/24 10:36 AM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1This post that you linked where the op claimed that 40% of wives out earn their husbands is misleading, because the data did not count wives who have no income. They are only look at dual-earning couples, and couples where the husband doesn't work. Someone made a post refuting this claim. The second and third links are about the decrease in men dating down in education, but I already addressed that point in my post. Education is not really the whole picture, income is relevant as well. I actuall… | /r/MensRights | 02/04/24 09:52 AM |
| 1 | NatGeo’s instagram page claims that “health research historically overlooks women”. Is this true?They looked at Vigibase for the ADR reporting.Vigibase is just a database where anyone can report symptoms they experience after taking a drug.There is no way for them to establish causation.There are various other factors that can cause higher ADR reporting among women.One of them being that women also take birth control which may cause side effects or interact with other drugs. Also,drug doses are not based on one sex,because women were not historically excluded from clinical trials.though you… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/24 07:22 AM |
| 9 | NatGeo’s instagram page claims that “health research historically overlooks women”. Is this true?So there is a grain of truth to the claim that women were excluded from medical research historically,but it gets exaggerated and misrepresented to make bogus claims like this.In 1977 there were guidelines released by the fda which recommended that women of child bearing potential be excluded from phase l and early phase ll clinical trials.The reason for this was because of what happened with thalidomide. The women who took thalidomide had their babies come out deformed at birth.This was a tragi… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/24 03:09 PM |
| 2 | You guys need to wake up and realize feminists are not “against men”You don't get to define feminism for people,based on what you want people to believe.You actually have to make a case for why feminism is about equality.This requires that you actually provide evidence.Imagine if we could all just prove ourselves not guilty by simply saying we didn't do what we were accused of doing.No one would be held accountable then. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/24 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Biden signs executive order on women's health research, but not for mendidn't make a claim. it's an argument. Bullshit,you made a claim. to be fair a lot of medicine for a long time was male centric (i assume it isn't anymore) and they didn't study many women despite dramatic differences in our physiology and reactions to treatments. Then when I asked for evidence you made a more specific claim. the vast majority of studies only used male subjects up until like the 80s. You don't even know what the definition of a claim is and you have the nerve to call me illitera… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/24 08:58 AM |
| 0 | Biden signs executive order on women's health research, but not for menWhy do you think you have no burden of proof when you made a claim? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/24 07:22 AM |
| 4 | Biden signs executive order on women's health research, but not for menSource? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/24 05:50 AM |
| 6 | Biden signs executive order on women's health research, but not for menWhat is the evidence for medicine being male centric? | /r/MensRights | 19/03/24 05:45 AM |
| 7 | Would you say that "patriarchy" is a vague and obscure boogeyman?Also,they think that the reason why men need to be masculine,is because they hate women and femininity.It is actually really the opposite,the purpose of the male hierarchy is so that women can select the best mates.Men are competing with each other to attract women. Feminists describe men creating the "patriarchy" as if they have unlimited power and agency.They neglect the fact that all living being are compelled to survive and reproduce,and must adapt to the selection pressures in their environ… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/24 11:05 AM |
| 4 | Feminists will always find a way to vilify men no matter the situation.The fact that feminists believe we live in a patriarchy despite all the evidence to the contrary, is all the proof we need to show that they hate men.They clearly have an extreme ideological commitment to this idea,because they have created so much propaganda to support it. I will link some sources below of examples of what I'm talking about.Apart from just creating propaganda to exaggerate the amount of sexism against women in society,they also have to downplay and/or diminish evidence of prefe… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/24 06:49 AM |
| 5 | Is Misogyny Systemic?I don't know if I would call that systemic,because there is no actual law against women getting sterilization surgery without the approval of someone else,and I don't see how the system incentivizes doctors to deny women sterilization surgery. When doctors deny women sterilization surgery, it is because of their own personal beliefs.For example,they may be religious and don't want to do the surgery because it is against their religion,or they could just believe that young people who request the … | /r/MensRights | 29/02/24 03:50 AM |
| 24 | What are the limits of feminist theory for male advocacy?To be more clear, I think if you look at gender relations and socialization in 2024, I do think it revolves around the increasing enforcement of the Male Gender Role. But we cannot change this while denying women's agency for it. I'm not saying it's all women, or the problem is caused entirely by women, far from it. But if you completely remove them from the equation, as pretty much you have to do to not be called a misogynist or a pig or whatever, you will never be able to facilitate change. Ex… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/02/24 04:48 AM |
| 11 | Thoughts on study that concluded that men are far more likely to leave their wives if the wives are seriously ill than vice versa?I made a post about this topic two years.This is actually a great example of how propaganda can be created. There are two things wrong with people using this study to support the claim that men abandon their sick wives 7x more then women abandon their sick husbands. 1.The study is an outlier compared to other studies on this topic.They cherry picked this one study which has a smaller sample size than many other studies, to make this sensational claim.In my post I show studies that find a much sm… | /r/MensRights | 16/02/24 03:56 AM |
| 3 | William Collins anyone familiar with his work?Yes,he is brilliant! He has another great book called the destructivist.He also has a website with tons of excellent blog posts.This is one that I found really interesting.It explains the root cause of male disposability and the empathy gap. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/02/24 10:57 AM |
| 1 | My analysis of the claims of medical misogyny and andronormativity in healthcare.If you're looking for criticisms, your worst offense was entirely discrediting the observational study conclusions simply because the authors included a disclaimer that is present in all prospective observational studies. The issue that I took with the observational studies is that I don't think they can really prove bias against women.There are alot of variables that influence healthcare treatment,some of which are unobservable. I have seen some people argue that you can use observational studi… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 07:40 PM |
| 1 | My analysis of the claims of medical misogyny and andronormativity in healthcare.I am not an actual scientist,but I am interested in learning more about science,and debating.I have consumed alot of mra content over the past few years,and it has exposed me to the tactics that feminist commonly use to create propaganda. This video goes over 10 common ones that i have actually noticed alot.I read alot of articles and research papers from actual scientists or academics who are either involved with the mrm,or are challenging feminist ideology. Some examples would be Murray Straus… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/24 02:06 AM |
| 3 | My analysis of the claims of medical misogyny and andronormativity in healthcare.Oh yeah,James nuzzo just recently wrote an article about that.It really shows how feminists twist anything men do into some kind of sexism against women.Even men's sacrifices.There is really nothing men can do to appease feminists. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/24 08:28 PM |
| 4 | Women's Health GapWomen may live longer than men, on average, but they spend 25% more of their lives in debilitating health, according to a new report from the World Economic Forum and the McKinsey Health Institute launched at Davos. They are trying to frame this as a disadvatange for women,but it really isn't.Women live a higher proportion of their life in poor health,because they live longer than men. They are trying to focus on this gap as if it is a disadvantage for women.However,this overlooks the fact that … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/24 04:34 AM |
| 8 | "Women's pain is always downplayed, misdiagnosed, and women receive less healthcare treatment than men."I'm just gonna quote some paragraphs from this article as a response. THROUGHOUT human history from antiquity until the beginning of this century men, on the average, lived slightly longer than women. By 1920 women's life expectancy in the United States was one year greater than men's (54.6 years versus 53.6). After that the gap increased steadily, to 3.5 years in 1930, 4.4 years in 1940, 5.5 in 1950, 6.5 in 1960, and 7.7 in 1970. For the past quarter of a century the gap has remained relatively… | /r/MensRights | 22/01/24 09:55 AM |
| 6 | "Women's pain is always downplayed, misdiagnosed, and women receive less healthcare treatment than men."…But after 1987, there was a reduction in death rates among men, while women began to surpass men in heart-disease deaths. By 2017, men and women experienced similar rates of death from heart disease. Research shows that primary-care physicians and cardiologists were not recognizing heart disease in women, and now leaders in the field are working to come up with sex-specific diagnostics and treatment so that women can optimize CVD treatment. “Historically, research and innovation in heart diseas… | /r/MensRights | 22/01/24 04:42 AM |
| 13 | Thought on the misdiagnosis of womenThis is likely due to the fact that men and women often have different presentations for the same medical conditions.Women are relatively more likely to have an atypical presentation for heart attacks compared to men.However,atypical presentations are still uncommon for both sexes.It may be the same for stroke. Alzheimer's may be underdiagnosed in men for the same reason they are more likely to have a atypical presentation.I don't think there is really an easy solution for this.Men and women are… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/01/24 07:46 AM |
| 3 | Medical errors kill scores each year in the U.S., especially women and minorities, is this another baloney?The claim about women presenting with different symptoms for heart attacks gets exaggerated by feminists.They will act as if women have a completely distinct set of symptoms compared to men,and we just don't know about it because we only studied heart attacks in men. In reality,the difference in heart attack symptoms for men and women have been known for at least decades now, and the most common symptom for both sexes is chest pain.There are some differences in symptoms but there not huge.Women … | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 09:40 AM |
| 10 | Medical errors kill scores each year in the U.S., especially women and minorities, is this another baloney?Here is a link to the full text of the study they cited. https://www.scribd.com/document/660248164/Burden-of-serious-harms-from-diagnostic-error-in-the-USA I don't know where they are getting the claim that women and minorities are 20- 30% more likely to be misdiagnosed compared to white men.I looked through the study that was co-authored by the person who made that claim and could not see any breakdown by sex or race,and there was no source linked for that specific claim,so I can't verify this.… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 06:50 AM |
| 1 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"I agree that there are definitely some people on this subreddit who generalize women when they get angry.However,if we are actually going to judge the Mra movement and feminism as a whole we have to look beyond this subreddit,and look at the movements as whole.This includes the ideology,activism,etc, of each movement. I think this is important because individuals who call themselves mra's or feminists are supporting their respective movements.With that being said,I don't agree that there is this… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/24 02:29 AM |
| 3 | All roads lead to "Patriarchy"That is not what feminists think of patriarchy.They view it as a system that benefits men at women's expense.According to feminists,we all uphold patriarchy because we are born and raised in a patriarchal society. All men benefit from the patriarchy and all women are subjugated by it.This is what feminist really think patriarchy is.A system where men collectively oppress women and only care about themselves and other men. I can understand why you might not think this,because feminists do this th… | /r/MensRights | 15/01/24 07:19 PM |
| 26 | Being a man is easy, clearly patriarchy is working well for us... /sWhen they blame it on men they are conceding that the so called patriarchy is not real.The patriarchy hypothesis can't explain all the preferential treatment of women.It can't explain why advocating for women's issues is so much more socially acceptable,and supported. When you provide the evidence for these claims,and then question feminists on this,It will inevitably lead to a contradiction.You just have to point out the contradiction instead of arguing with them on that point.I think that is w… | /r/MensRights | 06/01/24 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Why are people only inquisitive when women fall short?Where do I even start? First of all, it's called personal responsibility. People are considered responsible for their actions and if there is a root cause issue like abuse etc, that is still considered their own responsibility to seek therapy, not take it out on others, etc. That is true for men and women. Did you even read anything I wrote?Men are seen as more agentic,therefore more blameworthy,and in less need of help.This is not about personal responsibilities,it is about people being less wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Why are people only inquisitive when women fall short?People never asked,they just assume.If men have issues the assumption is that they are at fault for their issues.On the other hand if women have issues society looks for external causes.This is not because men don't talk about their issues. People actually have a perceptual bias that leads them to perceive men as more agentic and therefore more blameworthy and in less need of help. There is a mountain evidence that corroborates these findings.The lack of media attention given to the boys who wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/23 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Everything on 4chan can be fake of course (unlike the rest of the internet?) but if true it's a horror story of what a false accusation can do to someone's life, and also destroy a family. Be careful out there my brothersThere is no way to truly know how many rape accusations are false,because most of the cases are unsubstantiated.Those figures are for rape accusations that were proven false. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/23 04:13 PM |
| 8 | Is there evidence or a source that says that misandry is just as harmful as misogyny?It is a baseless unfalsifiable claim made by feminists,so it doesn't need to be disproven.What I see alot of feminist do is bring up things like "femicide" to claim that misogyny is more harmful.However,when you look at the supposed cases of femicide it is always inflated,because it includes homicide of women with pretty much any motive or it may even include homicides where the motive is unknown. It seems to be impossible to really quantify how much harm is caused by misogyny and misandry.Howev… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/23 07:18 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?I'm not invalidating anyone's experience.All I'm saying is that not every case of being misdiagnosed or mistreated is due to gender bias.Healthcare treatment is complex and there are multiple factors to consider.You were making claim about bias against women.This is more general.Of course I will always grant that their can be individual cases of bias against anyone. However,when you are talking about women in general.This tells me you are talking about something systemic.To say that there is sys… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/23 02:46 PM |
| 0 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?Andrology...? Thats a whole ass sector tbf. I have never heard of andrology before,but it does seem to be a far less prevalent specialty then gynecology. There seems to be a really small number of andrologists compared to gynecologists. Patients of endometriosis have their pain brushed off as period pain in the doctors office, and women find the same happens when discussing any kind of pelvic pain and this leads to frequently being misdiagnosed, and late diagnosises.https://scholar.google.co.uk/… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/23 05:07 AM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?Huh. It makes sense that the initial motion was pushed, when there were so many key studies that had excluded them before the 90s, but it's strange that the claim continues. Couldn't the same argument be made to create an office on men's health though?For example,the analysis showed that there were far less studies done on cancer for men,and there are way less studies on men's reproductive health.There is even a whole field dedicated to women's reproductive health specifically called gynecology,… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/23 11:37 PM |
| -1 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?That is true,but just because there wasn't a legal requirement for women to be equally represented in nih funded clinical trials,doesn't mean that they were underrepresented prior to the 1990's.Women were not actually underrepresented in clinical trials prior to the 1990's.This analysis, and this one shows that. Currently,it is also not true that women are underrepresented in clinical trials. James nuzzo made a graph of the proportion of male and female participants in clinical trials from 1995-… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/23 08:54 PM |
| 1 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?however, when they visit, their bodies are better understood and more background into the treatments they could have Could you elaborate on this? | /r/MensRights | 08/12/23 07:39 PM |
| 10 | What is your opinion on the gender pain gap?So I have been researching this topic for my upcoming post.I don't really doubt that women are in pain more often.Women are the majority of those with autoimmune disorders,and they also have periods on a regular basis. I think women tend to have chronic pain conditions more often.I don't know if it is true that they have more severe pain though.This research article on the topic is good. However,this claim that women's pain is not taken seriously is just unsubstantiated.This claim is mostly supp… | /r/MensRights | 08/12/23 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.The question was is the article true or BS. Which one do you think it is? That is not my contention.I am asking why you think that the op asking that questions shows a lack of understanding of the article.Why is it incorrect for them to ask the question? | /r/MensRights | 03/12/23 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.That language is rarely used. I don't see how the specific language matter if they are conveying the same message.They might use other terms,or just explain the weakness and limitations of other research,but wouldn't you agree that is the same thing.Using terms like true or false may just be more colloquial,but does that really matter? However the framing of the question indicates they didn’t read or didn’t understand the article they are discussing. So what is the correct interpretation of the … | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.I still don't see how that makes the question inappropriate.The OP could be asking about the validity of this particular study.He could also be asking about the general claim.Either way it can still be determined objectively if the claim is true,false,or inconclusive. I obviously agree that the overall balance of evidence is important when answering a research question.I don't think that means that a particular study can't be criticized.Are you saying that the conclusion of a particular study ca… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.This didn't really answer my question though.Why is it incorrect for Op to ask if this is true or false when there is a claim being made in the article?That is what I wanted you to elaborate on. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.But that isn’t what the article is about. The article presents a neat visualisation of the authors findings on funding. Journal articles are not “true” or “false”. They present an idea, how the idea was examined and their conclusions. This is published in Nature and subject to more more rigorous criticism and review than the internet. It doesn’t mean you have to believe it. They made a claim that women's health is being underfunded?How is that not a matter of true or false?This doesn't seem like… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.I used those guidelines and analyses,because when most people talk about the underrepresentation of women in clinical trials they are typically talking about the nih,and they refer to those guidelines.That is the claim that I was addressing.I don't know about things outside of the us.Do you have other analyses I can look at?Also,what are you referring to when you said that being a woman is an exclusion criteria and being a man is an inclusion criteria. | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.Yes it’s true - historically being male was an inclusion criteria and female an exclusion criteria. There are lots of reasons for this but the liability concerns around pregnancy was a significant factor in excluding women from clinical drug trials. Other types of interventional and observation research perceived hormone changes women experience as a variable that cannot be controlled. Enrolling men make analysis easier. There is an enormous around written on this in the ethics of research and m… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 06:33 AM |
| 1 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.Are these problems with the study or limitations of the design? Why does it matter?Either one of those things would be a weakness of the study.For example, a really good cross-sectional study would still not be able to prove causation.A poorly done RCT would also not prove causation.Why does it matter if both things can invalidate the study depending on what the research question is? This is using retrospective data and the ability to analyse DALY and opportunity adjusted may not be possible. It… | /r/MensRights | 02/12/23 06:09 AM |
| 2 | Is this article true or bs? It’s obvious it’s been debunked that women were excluded from medical research.So right now I am actually working on creating a post where I address multiple claims about the alleged bias and discrimination in women's health.This is one of the claims i plan to address in my post. The study that this claim is based on is flawed for multiple reasons.I also think the author is biased because of the fact that he categorized suicide as gender neutral.If you go into the supplemental data the reason for this was because he claimed women are more likely to attempt suicide. Even if… | /r/MensRights | 01/12/23 03:43 PM |
| 15 | How words can distort the truth...Excellent post! I think the use of language is more influential than alot of people think.Language changes the way people perceive things.This is why feminist try so hard to gatekeep words so only women are perceived as victims. Some other examples I can think of are genital mutilation.Any cutting of female genitalia is rightfully called fgm,but cutting off foreskin is just called circumcision.The former clearly has more negative connotations,so people view it as more severe.However,even forms o… | /r/MensRights | 30/11/23 02:17 PM |
| 7 | Debunking the myth of the male hunter: Prehistoric women were BETTER at hunting than men, University study claims OP: It is not science it is feminist propaganda. Feminists really do hate men!The article makes it seem like women hunted just like men,and there was no difference.That is not true,this article explains the sexual division of labor.To sum things up,hunting was done more by men then women.In some societies there was a very strict division of labor between men and women,but even when women did participate in hunting it was distinct from the kind of hunting men did.Women would do more small game hunting and participate in net hunting,while men would do the big game hunting. … | /r/MensRights | 28/11/23 08:05 PM |
| 18 | "Feminist Fundamentalist" Rebecca Watson continues to peddle the debunked conspiracy theory about the so called "Gender Wage Gap".The blind orchestra study did not actually prove that blind auditions increase the chances of women being hired.Also,her argument for why the wage gap is real,is really just goalpost shifting and gaslighting. The initial claim regarding the wage gap was about pay discrimination.The specific claim that gets asserted alot is that "Women are paid 77 cents for every dollar a man makes for the same work".This has been thoroughly debunked,and the goalpost has been shifted to pretend the wage gap has n… | /r/MensRights | 24/11/23 10:36 AM |
| 7 | Feminists criticize evolutionary psychology,but believe in patriarchy.Can you elaborate? | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 11:55 PM |
| 8 | "Women are the future."Sadly,I think you're right.I think some people do at least see feminism as somewhat less credible when they start to complain about obvious nonsense like sexist airconditiong.People like chanty binx lessen the credibility of feminism as well.However,it is not really enough because people don't really grasp the negative impact of the movement. There have been some instances where feminists have done things that have caused outrage,like for example there was a school in australia where boys were f… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 09:03 AM |
| 2 | women are more empathetic than man.? | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 03:11 AM |
| 5 | women are more empathetic than man.I think you are actually misunderstanding the claim that I am making when I say these differences are clear cut.I am referring to the strength of the evidence supporting the claim that men are generally physically stronger than women.I am not making a claim that all men are strong than all women.I thought that would be clear from my first comment,but I guess I needed to clarify what I was saying better. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 03:09 AM |
| 5 | women are more empathetic than man.I chose grip strength,because it seems to be a good indicator of your overall strength.However,I can show you graphs on the three major compound lifts,bench press,squat,and deadlift.These cover pretty much every muscle group.This post has the strength distributions for each lift. | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 02:52 AM |
| 5 | women are more empathetic than man.There’s a difference between talking about the averages of strength and saying strength is clear cut. Because one there are different types of physical strength, grip strength is just the one you decided to focus on. I clarified exactly what i meant in my first comment.My point is that you can say that men are generally physically stronger then women,because the evidence is very consistent and overwhelming,you can't say the same thing for empathy because the results are mixed,and differ dependin… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 02:23 AM |
| 9 | women are more empathetic than man.Do you know what averages or percentiles are? I said that men in general are physically stronger then women.Nothing you said contradicts what I stated.Yes,there are women out there who are stronger then most men,but this is a very tiny percentage of women who are at the top percentile of female strength.If you were to look at the strength distribution of men and women,you would see that the 50th percentile men are much stronger then the 50th percentile women,and there isn't much overlap where wo… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 02:12 AM |
| 11 | women are more empathetic than man.So I don't have a alot of knowledge on this topic,but just from a cursory glance of the literature,I can see that there doesn't seem to be a clear cut answer to which gender is more empathetic. The results seem mixed,and they seem to differ depending on the methodology.This paper found that in self-reported studies women were found to be more empathetic,but when looking at observations of non-verbal reactions to someone's emotional state there was no difference. This paper also shows that self-r… | /r/MensRights | 22/11/23 01:55 AM |
| 3 | It is truly frightening how many people believe that “the patriarchy” exists and that women are still oppressedI forgot to ask what is your definition of patriarchy? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/23 03:26 PM |
| 6 | feminists trivializing men's issuesThis argument that feminist use exposes the strong female in-group bias that they have.They don't see men as individuals.They view things in a very tribalistic way.It's team man vs team women to them.So they seem to project their own in-group bias onto you when they make that argument.They assume that you also have the same man vs woman mentality,when instead your think about things in terms of victims vs perpatrators. So in their minds,the fact that a man victimized another man doesn't count,si… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/23 04:09 AM |
| 6 | It is truly frightening how many people believe that “the patriarchy” exists and that women are still oppressedWhy do you think it exists in third world countries? | /r/MensRights | 19/11/23 01:41 AM |
| 9 | It is truly frightening how many people believe that “the patriarchy” exists and that women are still oppressedYes,but you are only looking at a tiny percentage of men and are overlooking other sources of political power.Women are the majority of voters,and also Feminist organizations have more power when it comes lobbying to influence decisions about legislation.Women's issues are also seen as important enough that they can actually be used as a political talking point to get more support from voters.Abortion is an example of this. | /r/MensRights | 18/11/23 08:54 PM |
| 5 | What are some counterarguments against "women's historical oppression"?Ok,so assuming everything you linked about rape and domestic violence is accurate.That means that were no specific laws to prevent these things from happening.However,that does not necessarily mean that these two things were widespread or that they were socially acceptable.We don't really have a great way of gauging the prevalence of rape and domestic violence in the past,because they didn't do national surveys back then to get statistics. Also,even if there is no law enforcement against rape or… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/23 03:22 AM |
| 11 | What are some counterarguments against "women's historical oppression"?Men had significantly more money and decision making power. That’s what power and controlling your own life looks like. I think this is too simplistic,and is a narrow definition of power.Men may have had more money then women,but what if they are sharing their money with women,how do they really have more money?Also,making money for the family is an obligation,you don't really have control over your life if your obligated to be a provider.Lastly,can you elaborate on what you mean by decision mak… | /r/MensRights | 16/11/23 02:04 AM |
| 7 | What are some counterarguments against "women's historical oppression"?As a feminist historian (Probably enemy number 1 to the men in this sub), the way I see it is that even the lowliest, most downtrodden man was the king of his 'castle'. His wife and children were under his power, entirely, For most of human history, this downtrodden man could beat and rape his wife, and dictate her entire existence. Just like the richest monarchs could. In a way, I see the patriarchy primarily as a means to control men. By giving even the 'dregs' of society complete domain over … | /r/MensRights | 16/11/23 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Billie Eilish Was Made for This: ‘Being a Woman Is Just Such a War, Forever’Agreed,her claim that it doesn't happen to men at all is absurd.it is true that women's looks are given more weight in terms of their overall attractiveness compared to men,but men still get judged on their looks as well,and their judged more harshly than women on other things like their status and income.Also,it actually seems to be more socially acceptable to shame men for the way their bodies look then it is for women.For women their is body positivity,and their is greater recognition of thin… | /r/MensRights | 14/11/23 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Billie Eilish Was Made for This: ‘Being a Woman Is Just Such a War, Forever’This is false,Keanue reeves was called flabby and weak for posting a shirtless picture of himself. Jason momoa got shamed for having a dad bod. There are also many incidents of men being joked about or shamed for being fat.To say this is something that only happens to women is delusion. | /r/MensRights | 14/11/23 03:36 PM |
| 6 | Hatred of feminine men is not misogyny, but anti-feminine misandryI disagree,I think the enforcement of gender roles stem from a time period where they were necessary for survival.Then overtime it became a part of the culture and was reinforced by socialization. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/11/23 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Are people just more interested in women?!Well said,the bias is also shown by the fact that the UN has a day of zero tolerance for fgm,but nothing for mgm.They also have a goal of ending fgm globally by 2030 as well,again nothing for mgm. Then there are even examples of mgm being laughed at on tv with little to no public outrage.The talk laughed about a story of a man who got his penis chopped off and thrown in a garbage disposal. All they did was give an insincere apology and that was it.They didn't get canceled,and there wasn't really… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 04:44 AM |
| 1 | Are people just more interested in women?!Yet women are getting killed in any of these cultures, being beaten or some other kind of mistreatment. People perceived as Wonderful people do not get mistreated. Yeah because there is always gonna be at least a small percentage of people in any population who are violent criminals who likely have some sort of psychopathology.You think that is indicative of a culture that treats women worse then men? You can make that argument about any group.You can even claim parents don't care about their ki… | /r/AllPillDebate | 12/11/23 04:07 AM |
| 1 | Feminist "theory" is junk science- why I'm a men's rights activistno i said anyone who disagrees with the notion that men and women both face problems due to their gender would be an idealogue, not just merely disagreeing with any part of my post. Ok my mistake,I think I would agree that this is generally true.Although I think of an ideologue as someone who clings to a certain set of beliefs.There are people who may believe that only one gender faces problems due to their gender who will change their beliefs when presented with enough evidence. Also I don't ha… | /r/MensRights | 12/11/23 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Feminist "theory" is junk science- why I'm a men's rights activistyeah, you were genuinely interested in what my definition of feminism is, and you weren't just asking so you could squabble with whatever definition I provided. sure. Also why are you asking me? I don't go around calling myself a "feminist" - I don't have issues with majority of feminists, but I don't call myself one either. I asked you because in your top comment you claimed that the person in the video didn't have good arguments against feminism.That is why I wanted to know what you thought fe… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/23 09:26 PM |
| 1 | Feminist "theory" is junk science- why I'm a men's rights activistYou are the one who is behaving like an idealogue. I asked you a simple clarifying question to understand your argument better and you just dismiss me as an idealogue.That is idealogue behavior. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/23 06:29 PM |
| 7 | Toxic Masculinity being pushed onto younger and younger boys.Karen straughan had a video explaining this pretty well with a good analogy,but I can't remember the name of the video.Essentially,"toxic masculinity" stems from male intrasexual competition.The reason why men become stoic and strive for status is because they are trying to attract women. Feminists are quick to recognize things that stem from female intrasexual competition like slut-shaming,and they blame it on men's preferences.However,they don't recognize the influence of women's preferences o… | /r/MensRights | 11/11/23 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Feminist "theory" is junk science- why I'm a men's rights activistIt is a simple question. | /r/MensRights | 11/11/23 02:58 PM |
| 3 | Feminist "theory" is junk science- why I'm a men's rights activistWhat do you think feminism is? | /r/MensRights | 11/11/23 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Why do women attempt to ruin men's lives so often? Why are they so vindictive and petty? Why can't they just leave people alone unless something very serious actually happened?People care more about people in their circle,but they still do care about other people outside their circle.That is why there is outrage when you hear about atrocities happening to people.People seem to care about females more compared to males.A good example of this is the lack of outrage over mgm compared to fgm.Peoples response to violence against men is another example.People have relatively little care for the wellbeing and safety of men as a group.Men in their families,sure,but not men in… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/23 10:17 PM |
| 12 | I am both an MRA and a feminist, do you agree with me?I don't think you can really judge the movement by just looking at the people on the ask feminist subreddit.It would be better to look at feminist organizations like NOW,the Feminist Majority Foundation,and prominent feminist in the movement.You can also check out Janice Fiamengo's channel studio b to see the history of feminism.I would also look into feminist ideology as well.Do the same thing for the men's rights movement as well and then decide which one you agree with more.I think you will c… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/23 03:40 AM |
| 5 | What would you say are your main issues with feminism? Do you agree with any aspects of it?One of the biggest problems with feminism is the dogmatism of it's proponents.If you have ever tried to argue with a feminist you will know it is like pulling teeth trying to just get them to provide a source to backup their claims. They make bold claims,and then when you ask for evidence they get hostile and tell you something like "It's not my responsibility to educate you!",or "just google it!".They seem to believe all their claims are self-evident,and if you question them on it you are just … | /r/MensRights | 06/11/23 07:59 PM |
| 3 | Anecdote: Even the Average "Non-Feminist" woman supports MisandryThe part about genital mutilation is the most despairing. I am a victim of it, and that is one of the things that first "blackpilled" me on the nature of this misandric society. I learned about it right as I entered puberty, as I found out that i had been mutilated by looking at comparisons between mutilated and intact members. That was my main point that pointed me to the truth. I am very sorry that happened to you.I hate the way that people downplay male genital mutilation.It is a horrible vio… | /r/MensRights | 06/11/23 03:41 PM |
| 3 | If women haven’t been oppressed throughout all of history and in fact have been the oppressors, how can one explain the total male dominance of all powerful positions since the dawn of civilizationI think this is a very simplistic way of looking at things.This ignores the vast majority of men who were not in these positions of power,it ignores other forms of power,and it ignores alternative explanations for why men are the ones who are predominantly in positions of power. It would take alot of time for me to explain.I might have to make a post about this,but I'm already working on something else right now. | /r/MensRights | 06/11/23 03:11 PM |
| 6 | How Do Women Face Systematic Sexism?If it fails they go to the classic but who were the ones in power creating that society? This argument from feminists really exposes how unwilling they are to acknowledge that men are individuals,and not a monolith conspiring to oppress women. Men at the top of the social hierarchy don't represent men in general.This is shown very clearly by the fact that men in middle eastern countries like iran,and afghanistan have actually protested against the treatment of women.Here are some links below. Ma… | /r/MensRights | 31/10/23 07:28 PM |
| 9 | … and 722 men not worth mentioning…This is kind of representation of men in news media is pretty common. Effacing the Male:Gender, Misrepresentation, and Exclusion in the Kosovo War The Murdered Men of Ciudad Juárez They also did something similar with the protests in iran.Most of the people killed were men,but they emphasized the deaths of women. I think these are good examples of gamma bias. | /r/MensRights | 31/10/23 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Attacking men is attacking meI agree,and I think another problem is that even people who are somewhat anti-feminist underestimate the negative impact of this narrative.Some people will think feminist are problematic,but will just say to get off the internet.The feminist narrative isn't just confined to the internet though. As a matter of fact,I was first introduced to feminism in school when I heard about the wage gap.Prior to that I didn't even really know what feminism was.Not only are feminist claims found pretty much ev… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/23 02:23 PM |
| 6 | Attacking men is attacking meYour feelings are completely valid.I know many people won't think they are,but they are.No one should be vilified for characteristics that they're born with and can't change. The thing that sucks about being a man is that these legitimate grievances are not gonna be acknowledged,and met with compassion.Instead their gonna be minimized and blamed on you. You don't like that the mainstream media and prominent organizations demonize and devalue men by spreading anti-male propaganda and ignoring mal… | /r/MensRights | 29/10/23 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Why the whole Mensrights, Red pill, and the general "Manosphere" was/is necessary.The cultural conditions that uphold patriarchy—gender norms—-aren’t something that men force on everyone else. We all exist in the same society, which means women are socialized into gender norms just as much as men are. Women uphold the patriarchy too, and women are just as capable of holding unhealthy ideas of masculinity and femininity. How do you define patriarchy? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 06:47 PM |
| 0 | Why the whole Mensrights, Red pill, and the general "Manosphere" was/is necessary.Oh it’s exist, countless factual literature has been written over it. How do you define patriarchy,and what is your evidence to support the existence of patriarchy based on your definition? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 05:33 PM |
| 0 | Why the whole Mensrights, Red pill, and the general "Manosphere" was/is necessary.Come on you are literally trying to argue with History now. What do you mean?Can you elaborate. That’s BS. And this is just an interpretation and their own opinion. More like women cases of misogyny are higher in numbers The enormous amount of evidence I just linked supports that interpretation.Misogyny is overused and exaggerated,while blantant misandry and discrimination against men is largely overlooked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 05:10 PM |
| 4 | Why the whole Mensrights, Red pill, and the general "Manosphere" was/is necessary.The Mra movement hasn't taken off the way feminism has,because people are apathetic towards men's issues,not because women have it worse.I think this research article describes this pretty well. A google scholar search for misogyny yielded 114,000 results, whereas a search for misandry yielded only 2,340. We suspect this difference in interest in misogyny over misandry reflects not the relative prevalence of each type of prejudice, but rather greater concern for the well-being of women than men.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/23 01:54 PM |
| 3 | I keep hearing people say that "women and children" is a mythI assume you're talking about the study that analyzed a small sample of 18 shipwrecks.That study was very flawed.They used survival rates to determine whether or not the women and children order was given,because they could not actually know for certain whether or not the order was given for most of the shipwrecks.However,this is a poor proxy to determine this,because survival rates can be influenced by many factors that differ in different shipwrecks.One important factor is time,the faster the … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/10/23 07:05 PM |
| 12 | No way they blamed it on a MAN who cared enough to make a mammogram instead of the woman who did the procedure in a extremely painful wayAnyhow, I was wondering why the doctors couldn't use laughing gas like my dentist offers when I've gotten a root canal. That stuff is really great for reducing the anxiety, which I suspect is the real problem. The commenter explained that dentists are qualified to give anesthesia,but gynecologists are not,so they would need a anesthesiologists as well. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/23 03:25 AM |
| 94 | No way they blamed it on a MAN who cared enough to make a mammogram instead of the woman who did the procedure in a extremely painful wayThis reminds of an AskFeminist post where someone asked why anesthesia is not given for cervical biopsies and coloposcopies.Most of the top comments thought that it was due to bias against women,but if you scroll down far enough someone who is in the medical field actually gave a logical answer. They said that it is not as easy to anesthetize intracavitary regions and the local anesthesia that could be used has more side effects then benefits.They also explained that in medicine,general anesthes… | /r/MensRights | 20/10/23 06:56 PM |
| 11 | Janice Fiamengo discusses and critiques the latest mainstream (CNN) pieces about AI Girlfriends and “Rage Rabbit Holes” and unveils the recalibrated feminist indoctrination programs behind themThis is an excellent article from Janice.Feminism has always been about getting men to serve women,even if it is to their own detriment.The gaslighting by the media is starting to fail,because feminist can't even hide their contempt for men. | /r/MensRights | 19/10/23 01:07 PM |
| 3 | Why are Male grievances constantly erased or ignored??People readily view men as perpetrators,and I think that is the implication of saying including women and children.The men who were killed are not really viewed as innocent civilians,but instead they are seen as combatants.I think that is what is going on here. This happened in afghanistan as well,where the afghan men were not really seen as victims of the taliban,but instead get lumped in with the taliban.Here is an article about this.I think this is how we rationalize ignoring the plight of me… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/23 12:39 PM |
| 5 | I keep hearing people say that "women and children" is a mythNo it wasn't,the women and children first mandate started with the HMS Birkenhead and there were many other instances of women and children being prioritized. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/10/23 12:07 PM |
| 16 | I keep hearing people say that "women and children" is a mythMany of the sources linked in the post are not really valid,but even if they were it misses the point.There is a societal expectation for women and children to be prioritized in disaster situations,the fact that it doesn't actually happen in every situation doesn't disprove that.Especially when you consider the fact that sometimes there simply isn't enough time for a women and children first mandate.I will leave some links below. This is a good post that addresses the shipwreck study.Also,here i… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/10/23 04:00 AM |
| 84 | She just won the Nobel Prize in economics for work on gender pay gap proving no conspiracy exists by men.Feminists' have shifted the goalpost for the wage gap a while ago.Since actual pay discrimination has been debunked,they are now claiming that women are coerced into making choices by society which is why they make less.They call women choosing to take care of kids and exit the workforce or work part-time the "Motherhood Penalty".I hate that they use the term penalty when it is actually a tradeoff.They get to spend more time with their kids,and have a better work-life balance,but make less money… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/23 01:55 AM |
| 2 | Arguing with a Misandrist and she quoted this studyhttps://academic.oup.com/esr/article/35/2/187/5370650?guestAccessKey=c5f1e433-871b-4818-9f26-e3dcb16eedd7&login=false | /r/MensRights | 08/10/23 06:26 AM |
| 3 | Invisible WomenYeah,I think the claim that products are designed for men kind of doesn't make sense.Even if they are designed specifically for the 50th percentile man,there are still many men who are not close to that 50th percentile.However,I don't think smartphones are intentionally designed to fit men's hands. That is also the problem with alot of her claims,she seems to argue that these things are intentionally made with men in mind,and I don't think she really proves that.Her argument is supported by the … | /r/MensRights | 05/10/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Invisible WomenI'm assuming she talks about crash dummies being male. For a refutation, see here. Also,here is a good article on that.The first crash test dummy was used for the Air Force which was almost entirely men.They used that dummy to test car crashes as well,because they had already spent alot of time doing the research to create the dummy. So it is not like crash test dummies were just arbitrarily modeled after men.Also,crash testing used to use live human participants and corpses,so if most of the vo… | /r/MensRights | 05/10/23 02:10 PM |
| 57 | Invisible WomenI have not read it ,but I might read it at some point.I have heard about some of the things that are mentioned in the book though,and from what I have heard I don't think it is an objective book. She mentions things like the wage gap for example which we all know has already been debunked,and she also mentions smartphones being bigger so they fit men's hands better.Smartphone are bigger now because consumers demand bigger screens,not because there designed to fit men's hands better. Also,I have … | /r/MensRights | 04/10/23 11:03 PM |
| 10 | The most accurate history of women’s suffrage in the US, unlike the completely misleading version by feminism. This is a highly recommended read.I've read this,and it is very good.it shows that a lot of women didn't want the right to vote,and there wasn't a gendered divide on the issue.It also goes over the many reason why anti-suffragist didn't want the vote,and why suffragist wanted the vote.I also like the fact that they mentioned that women already felt like they had alot of influence and had accomplished alot even without the vote.It shows that voting and being in government is not the only form of power,which is something that MRA'… | /r/MensRights | 04/10/23 10:51 PM |
| 8 | What is "the patriarchy"?It's easy to believe in bullshit if the evidence against it never makes it to you, and you only see evidence (even if it is falsified evidence) in favor of it. Agreed, this is why feminist rely heavily on evidence against their ideology being suppressed.This is also why they just told you "don't listen to these crazy MRAs".They need to make their opposition out to be crazy or bigoted so you don't even want to listen to them,and actively try to silence them and feel so emotionally triggered that … | /r/MensRights | 03/10/23 07:22 PM |
| 6 | Why are men more likely to leave sick partner? Is this study legit?Here is the archived post. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 09:13 PM |
| 17 | Why are men more likely to leave sick partner? Is this study legit?I addressed this claim in my post.This is just a case of cherry picking and asserting causation with correlational studies.There are many other studies with different results,and I haven't seen any other study replicate the 7x difference that was found in the 2009 study. Inaddition to this,the studies only looked at the association between onset illness in spouses and divorce or seperation.They don't know the reason why it happened or who even initiated the divorce,so it is not necessarily due t… | /r/MensRights | 28/09/23 05:32 PM |
| 1 | Study: Gender gap in alcohol consumption is shrinking, therefore we must focus on reducing consumption and harm in young womenI looked over the meta-analysis,and from what I can tell the 11 indicators they use to look at alcohol consumptions are pretty broad.So like for example, prevalence of risky drink is 3 or more drinks daily.However,that doesn't really tell us who is drinking more.It just means that they drink at least 3 drinks a day.So maybe it is true that men are much more likely to drinking alcohol excessively to the point of dying,but the meta-analysis wouldn't show that because the indicators of problematic … | /r/MensRights | 26/09/23 01:27 AM |
| 2 | A UN Report claims that 90% of people are biased against women.Here are my thoughtsYes,it is asking if men and women having the same rights is an essential characteristic of democracy. | /r/MensRights | 23/09/23 11:51 PM |
| 40 | "Male brains are wired to hate women."Yep, and it also goes against the massive amount of research that disproves the claim that men hate women.Karen straughan pointed out something very obvious that disprove the feminist claims of men hating women and being socialized to oppress them.If this were true the word misogyny would not have so much power.Feminist use that word because they know the shame that comes with being labeled a misogynist. If we lived in a culture with rampant misogyny,no one would actually care about being called… | /r/MensRights | 22/09/23 01:12 PM |
| 10 | Wage Gap Continues to Be PeddledFeminist have pretty much complete control over all the channels of information when it comes to gender issues. The fact that they have been able to gain so much control over the flow of information despite the fact that their ideology is built on so many falsehoods, shows how powerful innate gynocentric bias is. Feminism has influence over what gets published in scientific journals and how many citations a paper gets.They also have influence over what journalists decide to write about as well.T… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/23 06:39 PM |
| 9 | Femicide is not what you thinkYeah,you can also see this with the Australian Femicide and Child Death Map.They count cases where the details of the murder are missing,and they also count terrorist attacks where both men and women are killed as femicide.Literally anything is considered femicide that is how they get those inflated numbers. Baneau made a video about it. I would also like to add to some of the points you made. 2 When it comes to honor killings Ali meharespand has written a great article exposing the tricks that … | /r/MensRights | 18/09/23 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Someone explain: Why is this a Gender exclusive issue? Men are also more likely to die from Heart Disease. "Her Heart Matters", but not his apparently.The reasons why heart disease in women was studied less was due to a honest misunderstanding of the negative impacts of heart disease on women and logistical issues with including women in clinical trials,not bias. The framingham study which was the first study of heart disease did include women,however the women and men in the sample were under 65.The problem with this is that women tend to get heart disease later on in life then men,so the researchers were not gonna be able to really see the n… | /r/MensRights | 17/09/23 09:23 PM |
| 15 | Is The Patriarchy Truly Real?Patriarchy is usually defined as a society that is set up to privilege men and oppress women. If we look at patriarchy from a scientific perspective like some people have done before, we know that it is not a well supported hypothesis.The patriarchy hypothesis has little to no explanatory power.This is likely because it's not based on any sound reasoning.When scientists come up with a hypothesis it is usually based on some sort of evidence that suggests that their hypothesis might be proven righ… | /r/MensRights | 16/09/23 06:04 AM |
| 124 | "Women and children first!"I will add a few more examples of men being shamed for not wanting to risk their lives. The white feather campaign Men were handed white feathers as a symbol of cowardice to pressure them to join the war. Masabumi Hosono A Japanese man who was socially ostracized and lost his job for not following the women and children first rule on the titanic,and going down with the ship. Advertisment shaming russian men for fleeing mobilization The ad shames men who left russia by calling them boys and calli… | /r/MensRights | 15/09/23 02:21 PM |
| 14 | This sub is so disappointing.This is how patriarchy is described in your source. Patriarchy is a set of cultural rules and values that specify how men and women should be and act. It is based on a belief that men have an inherent right to dominate and that women should be subservient, selfless caregivers. One example of the persistence of this gender hierarchy is America’s ever-growing body of laws restricting women’s reproductive freedom. This hierarchy polarizes human capacities into “masculine” traits (stoicism, self-rel… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/23 10:09 PM |
| 20 | This sub is so disappointing.How do you define patriarchy? | /r/MensRights | 11/09/23 08:14 PM |
| 1 | How does one disapprove the existence of patriarchy in a debate?I would continue to question them on the premise of their claims.The way feminists respond to evidence of male disadvantage is to say that it is due to the patriarchy,because men are socialized to fulfill their roles as patriarchs opressing women which also disadvantages them as well.Question them on this,ask them how men killing other men more then they kill women is a byproduct of them fulfilling their role as patriarchs.Ask them the same thing about suicide. Also,I would mention things that j… | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 09:41 PM |
| 14 | If men really are the priviledged sex, please give me some examples..The BIGI(Basic Index of Gender Inequality) is one.I don't know about any other ones. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/23 02:07 AM |
| 5 | What right(s) men have that women doesn't have (in the west)?I remember this post.I actually left a comment in one of the threads saying that men don't have a right to bodily autonomy because of circumcision and the draft. They responded with red herrings claiming that infant male circumcision is not equal to abortion,and that the draft has not been used in 50 years.Which does nothing to disprove my claim that men also lack the right to bodily autonomy. One of the commenters actually said that the "ethics of it are in a lack of choice" then goes on to say… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/23 01:59 PM |
| 13 | Is there a name for the fallacy of thinking that the attention something gets is proportional to its magnitude or importance? If not, there should beI think what you're describing is the Bandwagon Fallacy. Since the popular belief is that women are more negatively affected by just about any social issue, people think it is true.Since people are inculcated with this idea they eventually develop belief perseverance which prevents them from accepting contradictory evidence. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 30/08/23 11:03 PM |
| 5 | UN's Gender Social Norms Index (GSNI) measuring gender bias in social norms is full of biasI was actually also going to make a post about this as well.I already have it written.I agree that the GSNI itself is biased for not asking about men,but I would also like to add that the questions in the questionnaire are not even necessarily indicative of bias.They just assume that peoples answers were due to bias against women.Which is actually a biased assumption on their part. For example,the question about if men should have more of a right to a job when jobs are scarce.It actually makes s… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/23 01:17 PM |
| 1 | College women reacting to Men’s Rightshttps://np.reddit.com/r/UnpopularFacts/comments/qnp5qh/the_claim_men_leave_their_sick_spouse_more_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=1 | /r/MensRights | 27/08/23 08:07 PM |
| 12 | What do you guys think of Professor Neil?He is very biased just like most feminists.He shouldn't really be taken seriously.He will cite evidence that confirms his bias whether it is true or not.For example,he cited an article discussing paul dolan's research claiming that single, childless, women are the happiest women.This has already been debunked.I doubt he actually cares about the truth or takes an objective approach to doing research,he is a feminist with a feminist audience who cites research that confirms his bias and satisfies … | /r/MensRights | 22/08/23 09:13 PM |
| 12 | Feminism is NOT for menThey are so delusional.One example that refutes the ridiculous claim that men are never expected to support feminism is the fact that there is literally a heforshe campaign calling on men to support feminism. Feminist usually don't provide evidence to backup these very bold claims that they make. These are claims based on their feelings and they expect people to take them seriously. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/23 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Feminism is NOT for menI saw this post too and was gonna make a post about it.I think I will still make a post about it.The Op of that post is so delusional that it is mind-boggling. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/23 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Are there any response to this argument? "it's other men"Show me the research you're talking about. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/23 06:38 PM |
| 15 | Are there any response to this argument? "it's other men"These are perfect examples of the male hyperagency bias.Men are somehow responsible for their own victimization,because the perpetrator is male.Even when the perpetrator is female, male victimization is either ignored, or there is an assumption that he did something to deserve it. It is obviously bullshit,because men are individuals not some sort of hivemind.Male victims don't consent to their victimizations via telepathy before it happens.The idea that they did it to themselves requires a sever… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/23 06:57 PM |
| 3 | How did feminists manage to get into all the top level of institutions and politics in the west?This video can help answer that question. | /r/MensRights | 11/08/23 05:57 AM |
| 4 | Does circumcision really help decrease the possibly of getting AIDS?Agreed,and there is an unjust double standard in how people view fgm vs mgm.All forms of fgm are actually considered a human rights violation by the WHO and United Nations.However,they not only don't take the same stance against mgm,but they have also funded campaigns and programs to circumcise men in africa. At the same time,they have also put pressure on developing countries to outlaw fgm and it has been working.I think Sudan is the most recent example.The Un actually has an International Day … | /r/MensRights | 14/07/23 10:29 PM |
| 2 | CMV Many Women claim "a man can be soft" or "a man can cry its no issue" but they don't date those dudes, in fact they date the Guys that would be in the "toxic masculinity" bracket, and this is kinda funny lolDo you think those are instincts?I don't see how those anti-social behaviors really help with survival or reproductive fitness.As a matter of fact,I think pro-social behaviors would be beneficial because cooperation helps human beings survive.That is how we got to where we are now.Also,people do often let their emotions dictate what they do,but they get emotional in response to something happening to them.Someone saying or doing something rude for example.So people try to behave in a way that wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 05:06 PM |
| 18 | How Is Misogyny Systemic?Feminist start with the claim of systemic hostile sexism against women.Then when you refute this claim and give examples of women getting preferential treatment,they will then say that the preferential treatment is still misogynistic because it is based on the idea that women are weaker and need to be protected and get special treatment. This is hypocritical coming from feminist though,because according to this logic they are probably the most misogynistic group of people.They constantly infanti… | /r/MensRights | 14/07/23 02:09 AM |
| 23 | Does circumcision really help decrease the possibly of getting AIDS?This video exposes the flaws in those studies claiming that circumcision is protective against aids.One of the problems mentioned is that they could not tell whether or not the HIV was sexually transmitted or due to other causes like intravenous drug use.They also apparently told the circumcised men to not have unprotected sex for 4-8 weeks.The studies are clearly agenda driven,and the severe flaws found in the studies invalidate them. However,as another user already mentioned,even if circumcisi… | /r/MensRights | 13/07/23 07:48 PM |
| 37 | "Not all men" is a completely reasonable response to sexist bigotryWhat feminist are doing there is psychological warfare.They try to take a statement that is true and reasonable,and make it out to be something that is so misogynistic and horrible.They will even try to attack the character of the people saying this by making all kinds of negative assumptions about them. This is all to shame those who argue against feminism.This makes people not even want to argue against feminism.This is how feminist ideology survives through shaming,intimidation,gaslighting,et… | /r/MensRights | 30/06/23 07:36 PM |
| 1 | ‘Biological Gynocentrism’ : A Men's Rights Principle, Or A Feminist Idea?True,but i'm not talking about sacrificing your life to save a woman,i'm talking about people in general being more concerned with the safety and wellbeing of women then men.This is why there is more attention given to women's issues than men's. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/23 12:27 AM |
| 1 | ‘Biological Gynocentrism’ : A Men's Rights Principle, Or A Feminist Idea?My point is that the underlying reason for gynocentrism and how it manifest in reality is different.It doesn't manifest in the gene-centric way that hannah wallen describes in the context of child rearing.It manifest as a need to prioritize the protection of women and girls over men and boys in general due to their reproductive potential.this is why we see things like women and children first,men getting drafted but not women,and infant male genital mutilation being justified while female genita… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/23 12:35 PM |
| 3 | ‘Biological Gynocentrism’ : A Men's Rights Principle, Or A Feminist Idea?I think what you are describing when you talk about gene-centrism is the underlying reason for why gynocentrism exists,but I don't really see how the underlying reason for gynocentrism is relevant when we are talking about the manifestation of gynocentrism. I remember a clip were gad saad explained that parents will sacrifice there lives to save their children,because the child shares 50% of their dna with the parent.So the underlying reason for why the parent is sacrificing their life for the c… | /r/MensRights | 27/06/23 04:36 AM |
| 3 | Research in Nature does "massage" the data - this is getting out of handIt has been argued that DALY is not the best measure of disease burden,because it does not take into account the economic impact of diseases and how it impacts caretakers.So the DALY has some major weaknesses.Also,another very important factor that is not considered is scientific opportunity. This is how much of a health benefit can be expected from funding a particular disease.The health benefits from funding is not equal across all diseases.Some diseases will achieve more or less progress.This… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/23 10:50 PM |
| 9 | Conscious lee discusses Men's Rights, reverse sexism etcThe claim that misandry is a reaction to misogyny is an unfalsifiable claim.There is no solid evidence to prove that this is true as a general rule. Men being in power does not mean that misandry is a reaction to misogyny.They only bring this point up because they assume that men being in power means that there is gonna be systemic misogyny,and that this proves that misogyny predates misandry. However,as we already know this is a false assumption.Men in power are actually gynocenric.We see this … | /r/MensRights | 25/06/23 04:40 AM |
| 2 | It really disheartens me how many men wholly dismiss sexual assault committed by women against menThats also where the "men are hornier than women" myth comes from - in reality we're the same, but women have more options, so they just dont think about it as much. Their needs are fulfilled and they have a less obsessive attitude towards it, while men are starving for it and start to "think with their head". It is not a myth. Men are hornier then women.The reason why women have more options is because of the sex difference in sex drive,not the other way around.I still think it is wrong for wom… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/23 05:51 PM |
| 7 | Another horrific example of the disposability of men. When they're battling against a slow and painful death they're often thrown away to die alone as they're no longer able to provideLook at this | /r/MensRights | 23/06/23 09:24 PM |
| 12 | Why do so many men hate this subI care about Men’s Rights. It’s fascinating how misguided many of you are, and I like to understand why you believe many of the very incorrect things you believe You won't understand if you don't specify what those incorrect things are. Ultimately I want to be better at communicating what I believe to be important. And understanding the arguments that support my position is just as important as understanding the arguments that oppose it. Wouldn't debating be a good way to do that? I’m not sure w… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/23 07:54 PM |
| 16 | Why do so many men hate this subSo you make bold claims,but your not willing to support them with evidence.I am honestly disappointed,but I guess I was foolish for expecting anything different from a feminist.This is the typical behavior we get from feminist when asking for evidence. I am just genuinely curious why you use this subreddit though.I thought you would be here to debate since you said that you are critical of Men's Rights Advocates.If you're not here to debate,then what exactly do you use this subreddit for.It does… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/23 06:07 PM |
| 17 | Why do so many men hate this subI’m personally very critical of “Men’s Rights Advocates”. Many of their ideas are based upon poorly represented statistics or a worldview that’s clearly ignorant of how women and minorities exist in the USA. Can you give examples? | /r/MensRights | 18/06/23 04:52 PM |
| 2 | The UN really seems to dislike men lol according to them we're always the root of all problemsYeah,and the fact that they didn't also ask the question with the genders reversed, makes their claim of gender bias against women unsubstantiated.How can they claim that there is gender bias against women without even making a comparison with men. Also,I just thought of another possible justification people may have in their minds for beating their wives,BDSM.Some people may think it is okay to beat their wives while doing BDSM.Which is not abusive,because it is a consensual sex practice. Howev… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/23 07:41 PM |
| 11 | The UN really seems to dislike men lol according to them we're always the root of all problemsWith these reports they don't give the questionnaire in the report,so you have to look at the references to see where the actual questionnaire is. This is a link to the report were the person in the video got the numbers from.The techinal notes are also available,and they provide the source for the questionaire. The GSNI is calculated using data from the World Values Survey (WVS),3 which employs questionnaires that assess social, political, economic and cultural values and norms. This is the que… | /r/MensRights | 13/06/23 08:38 AM |
| 6 | Men were all the test subjectsIt seems crazy to me that /u/Strong-Menu-1852 would (a) consider the "General Considerations for the Clinical Evaluation of drugs" (1977 PDF) law and (b) simultaneously construe the section on "Women of childbearing potential" to mean that it was illegal to include women. You must be misunderstanding one-another. After all, that section explicitly lists what should be done / have been done, when woman of childbearing potential are included: I guess this just demonstrates the importance of lookin… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/23 08:18 AM |
| 6 | Men were all the test subjectsWomen with potential of childbearing legally can't be in clinical trials according to 1977 law. Yo usre spreading misinformation It wasn't illegal to include women in clinical trials in 1977.There was no law passed.There was just a document released by the fda titled“General Considerations for the Clinical Evaluation of Drugs”.In this document they recommened that women of child bearing potential aren't included in the early phase l and phase ll stages of clinical trials. However,this was not ma… | /r/MensRights | 11/06/23 03:17 AM |
| -13 | Men were all the test subjectsThe claim that women were excluded from clinical trials is not even true. Did Medical Research Routinely Exclude Women?An Examination of the Evidence | /r/MensRights | 11/06/23 12:20 AM |
| 16 | There is far more misandry than misogyny in the west.It was a tiny percentage of men.The vast majority of men did not have the vote in 1830. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/23 08:24 PM |
| 15 | There is far more misandry than misogyny in the west.As if we need any proof, the famous Coffee House protest of 1674 by the women of London, UK shows that women had the time, the resources and the freedom to band together, design, print and distribute a wide campaign shaming men into compliance with their demands. Yep,there are many examples of stuff like this throughout history.The creation of the tender years doctrine is one of them.It became a thing because Caroline Norton started a campaign to give mothers custody of the kids after a divorce.… | /r/MensRights | 10/06/23 08:15 PM |
| 6 | I am so sick of people just plain ignoring any kind of empirical evidence/dataThe worst part is that people actually believe that the one study or article that they cite is irrefutable evidence,and that there is nothing to debate. I think it is fine if people want to cite an article or a single study,but they need to be able to understand the strength of the evidence that they are providing.The arrogance and unwillingness to debate is the biggest problem with ideologues. | /r/MensRights | 09/06/23 03:25 PM |
| 40 | Posted on my IG that it’s Men’s Health Month and this girl had to steal the spot light (how would you reply guys?)Even with the same methods male suicide attempts are more lethal Men also commit more serious suicide attempts then women Suicide intent data from 5212 participants was included in the analysis. A significant association between suicide intent and gender was found, where ‘Serious Suicide Attempts’ (SSA) were rated significantly more frequently in males than females (p < .001). There was a statistically significant gender difference in intent and age groups (p < .001) and between countries (p < .… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/23 06:03 AM |
| 24 | "women hold up half the sky" Or why I stopped dating cis women and identifying as a man.I think the difference is caused by the differences in male and female sexuality.Women have a higher baseline level of sexual disgust then men and their arousal is heavily dependent on how you make them feel.So it is more difficult to turn women on,and easier to turn them off.Men are aroused by sexual visual stimuli so they get aroused much easier,and they are less likely to get turned off.That is why men want sex more then women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/23 10:32 PM |
| 8 | Man is bad, man is bad, man is bad.Also these are brand new humans with basically zero life experience. How is an 8 yo supposed to understand the context of phrases like "toxic masculinity" and "the future is female"? For a typical 8 yo boy's entire life so far, all he's ever heard is pro-women and anti-men sentiments. How does anyone think that's healthy? Feminist don't care.They have a tribalistic mindset were if you're male you are the enemy.They don't see men and boys as individuals that should be held accountable for what th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/06/23 09:59 PM |
| 18 | "Female suicide rate is fastest rising".... NO. IT. IS. NOT. It only SEEMS that way BECAUSE THEY CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF WHAT THEY COUNT AS A SUICIDE ATTEMPT. I have been pointing this out for literally YEARS now but people STILL fall for their trick, just as they do for the wage gap myth.Broadening the definitions of words is a fairly common tactic feminists use to inflate statistics.They also focus on subjective data based on feelings rather then objective data based on actions and outcomes.That is why they focus on suicidal ideations over actual suicides.They also use selection bias as well to get a sample of people that are unrepresentative of the general population,but are more likely to give them the desired results.This video goes over more stuff.It is the rule for feminis… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/23 08:46 PM |
| 0 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"Sometimes this subreddit can have posts that are a bit too ideological.I understand why because alot of men are going through redpill rage and this is probably the only place for them to vent.I think this is one of those post.Saying that women,children,and dogs are loved unconditionally is such a bold and unfalsifiable claim.The evidence to support this claim does not exist.We don't know what conditions are or aren't being met by people to actually claim that they are being loved unconditionally… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/23 01:57 AM |
| 1 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"You are correct in saying that I shouldn't really care who it came from.That is an appeal to authority and I was wrong to use that to try to bolster my argument.However,I do still think that the statement is invalid.Fundamentally,people don't love other people unconditionally there is a reason why you love someone and that is a condition.It also just seems incorrect to say that men are only loved under the condition that they provide.There are many men who are disabled or unable to provide and t… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/23 01:41 AM |
| 3 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"In general it's true though. There is reason why we save women and children first and then if we can the men. There is a reason why men are the ones being drafted, not women. There is a reason why women in general look for that 1% man, usually 6 foot tall, 6 pack, 6 figures, 6 inches, while men most of the time couldn't care less how much a woman makes. That is the empathy gap and male disposability two things that I agree are true.Society does care more about the safety and wellbeing of women a… | /r/MensRights | 03/06/23 01:17 AM |
| -13 | "Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man is only loved under the condition that he provide something"This will probably be a controversial opinion, but I don't like the saying "only women,children and dogs are loved unconditionally A man is only loved under the condition that he provides". I don't think it is a good look for the mrm to be quoting a comedian as if his statement is factual.While I sort of understand the sentiment,I don't think this statement is literally true.Women,children and dogs are not loved unconditionally.Many people will not receive love for example if they have a really … | /r/MensRights | 02/06/23 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Justifying their misandry because of what different men didI am pretty sure the claim that men oppressed women throughout history is bullshit .Part of the reason this narrative is perpetuated is because feminist are looking at history through the lens of a person living in modern western civilization,and are disregarding historical context.It is probably true that women's freedom was restricted,but given the circumstances it would likely be inappropriate to call this oppression.They also don't even care to look at what happened to men throughout history… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/23 03:40 PM |
| 12 | Let's play a gameDo you believe that we have historically been this way? like from religion? and if so, do you think we have somehow achieved equality despite all that time believing in religion which is still active today? I'm not really sure why history is relevant to a discussion about what is happening in society today,but my answer would be that i don't know.I don't know much about religion, but it does seem like different cultures have different interpretations of religious text,so I'm not sure if it is an… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/23 07:24 AM |
| 14 | Let's play a gameI think you misinterpreted what I meant there.When I said patriarchy I was referring to the hostile sexist definition of patriarchy that feminist believe in.Which is a system set up to benefit men at women's expense. I know that alot of men and women are gynocentric to varying degrees,this is not really what i'm arguing against.My main point of contention is this idea that we live in a hostile sexist patriarchy meant to oppress women and privilege men. That is not true,we do not live in a hostil… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/06/23 02:24 AM |
| 18 | Let's play a gameIt discredits the bailey(harder to defend) definition of patriarchy that feminists use. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/23 07:55 PM |
| 34 | Let's play a gameFeminist will see all this,and then claim that this is all a result of men upholding "patriarchy",but patriarchy still hurts women more. The later statement is obviously just nonsense.As this infographics shows that men are doing worse in almost every area including education,life expectancy,health,suicide,etc.So objectively the "patriarchy" is not hurting women more. However I would love to hear how a feminist would defend the claim that this is a result of men upholding patriarchy.I think they… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/23 03:45 PM |
| 45 | Let's play a gameI still find it amazing when I see feminists proclaiming how easy men have it. I've read social media posts from them saying men are handed everything to them at every corner and the world gives everything to men. Yeah,and the people who say stupid shit like this never have to actually substantiate their claims,because it fits the mainstream politically correct narrative.That is the thing that is really annoying.They can make completely bogus claims,and say it with such confidence and arrogance … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/05/23 03:16 PM |
| 24 | catch-22 regarding men's issuesPeople who do this simply want to blame men.They are not actually proposing a solution.People saying "men just need to open up",are not interested in understanding why many men do not want to open up they are only interested in blaming them.This rhetoric is typically used to either demonize men(toxic masculinity) or to just shut them up when they do complain about an issue affecting men by putting the blame on them. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/23 12:22 PM |
| 1 | I am a Feminist man - ask me your feminist questionsMen are in positions of power,but when it comes to gendered issues the serve the interest of women not men.The idea that men in positions of power will choose to benefit men at the expense is just projection. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 08:20 PM |
| 3 | I am a Feminist man - ask me your feminist questionsYeah,In my opinion I think it is the predominant motive for why men become feminists.They also mentioned the idea of being the "one good man" in women's eye as a possible motive.I think another motive is that some men use feminism as a way to virtue signal to cover up the all the things they did wrong.That is why you sometimes see male feminist get exposed for being abusers or pedophile. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 04:06 PM |
| 4 | I am a Feminist man - ask me your feminist questions1.It is not true that the supreme court is all men,there are some women in the supreme court they are just a minority. 2.Are you referring to the overturning of roe v wade? 3.When I say influence I was talking about psychological influence.Like when feminist talk about men being responsible for all the social norms for example. | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 03:41 PM |
| 6 | I am a Feminist man - ask me your feminist questionsI don't know if he is gonna answer this question,but I want to give my thoughts. I heard the most insightful answer to this question on the honey badger live stream where they were discussing a jubilee video where anti feminist men were arguing against feminist men.They essentially said that feminist men are pretty much the most "toxically masculine men".They act like they are invulnerable to the demonization of men,and instead internalize the identity of this hyperagentic man who can't be hurt … | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 03:35 PM |
| 3 | I am a Feminist man - ask me your feminist questionsDo you think that women have any influence over men,or do you think that they lack agency and are just controlled by the "patriarchy"? | /r/MensRights | 30/05/23 03:16 PM |
| 9 | Men and boys are taught and forced to sacrifice for the greater good and collective while women and girls are basically taught the oppositeWomen find it fulfilling to carry a child inside her? Oh ok. So if that is the case, men find it fulfilling to go to war. There is no draft in the US. They are volunteering not forced? Do you serve? There is currently no draft,but men can be drafted into war because of selective service.Which is what I am talking about. You are speaking of only the western world, as not being pressured to have children. Yes, well they just made abortion a lot harder to access in the states. However, yes a lot le… | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 05:03 AM |
| 9 | Men and boys are taught and forced to sacrifice for the greater good and collective while women and girls are basically taught the oppositeYea I understand the statement. I just do not know how men are taught this. Do you mean expected to protect in their line of duty, such as police officer, fire men etc? I would believe that has to do with a male's genetic makeup being superior to a woman's in terms of strength, and physical build. Obviously it would make sense to have males in protective lines of service over women. They are stronger, and larger. Although where else is this the case? You said they protect random strangers? Most … | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 04:47 AM |
| 17 | Men and boys are taught and forced to sacrifice for the greater good and collective while women and girls are basically taught the oppositeI don't see giving birth and raising children as the greatest sacrifice.Especially when you consider the fact that alot of women find this fulfilling and choose to do it.I would argue that being forced to fight in a war as young man is a much greater sacrifice.Imagine being in your late teens or early twenties,going to war,and then just dieing at such a young age before you even get the chance to really live your life. That is the sacrifice that men in ukraine were forced to make.Also,even the e… | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 01:46 AM |
| 23 | Men and boys are taught and forced to sacrifice for the greater good and collective while women and girls are basically taught the oppositeI think men are taught to sacrifice in order to be considered a "real man".There is a social expectation placed on men to sacrifice themselves when necessary for the benefit of women and society.Whenever a woman is being attacked by some insane person,men are expected to defend the woman and risk their own life to protect her.Even if she is a random person he doesn't even know.Men are also expected to be conscripted to fight in wars when necessary. Men also have an expectation placed on them to … | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 12:58 AM |
| 7 | Did women and children die more on ships historically? Paper shows that women and children had lower survival rates, concludes "men only protected other men". I don't see any causation.That paper had a lot of issues. I can't find where we discussed it in the past but I remember one issue was a selective inclusion of data. Maybe you are thinking of this post. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/23 12:01 AM |
| 17 | i'm sick of people claiming that society is catered towards menThe narrative that society is set up to benefit men at women's expense literally exists because we don't care as much about men's issues.That is why the word misogyny is used so often,but there are many people who don't even know the term misandry. It is going to be difficult or impossible to convince people who see things this way to reevaluate their beliefs,because that would require them to get rid of their bias.You can provide as much evidence as you want,but it will just be rationalized in … | /r/MensRights | 26/05/23 03:52 PM |
| 1 | The meaning of of Patriarchy - As I see it"Patriarchy" as defined and used by feminist is the idea that we live in a society that is set up to oppress women and privilege men.It is not based on facts,it is based on ideology.The arguments to support the supposed existence of patriarchy are used to deal with criticism and feign credibility. Feminist will make claims that are either hard to substantiate or unfalsifiable,so people don't know how to respond to them.They will also use logical fallacies to throw you off.The best way to deal wi… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/23 10:24 AM |
| 11 | To the people that claim mra's are just as bad as feminists:I don't see men's rights activists mentioned anywhere in the paper you linked.Also,i disagree with your claim that the difference is due to the absolute number of radical individuals in the movement being smaller. The feminist who do these kinds of things are not just obscure radical individuals,they are literally people who gained prominence in the movement,and also large feminist organizations as well.You don't see this in the MRM because it would not be allowed. | /r/MensRights | 23/05/23 09:02 PM |
| 22 | Women are wonderful effect VS Men are Trash. Two biases destroyed our livesThis is known as gamma bias.This cognitive bias makes people exaggerate the negative things that men do,while minimizing the positive things that men do.On the other hand,they exaggerate the positive things that women do, and minimize the negative things women do. This is why men get demonized based on the crimes committed by a small minority of men.However,we overlook all the men who are good decent people who contribute to society and care about their families.We also do not generalize men bas… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/23 11:33 PM |
| 7 | Members of this sub, how did you become an MRA and/or anti feminist?As an MRA, I care deeply about equality for men. Feminists care deeply about equality for women. They're similar to me in that way. I can relate I don't think that men's rights activist and feminists are really comparable.Feminists don't want equality they want female privileges,and they will play dirty to get it.They fabricate claims of discrimination,suppress information that discredits their claims,and more, to obtain these privileges. For example, the duluth model which is created by a femin… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/23 11:52 PM |
| 4 | Members of this sub, how did you become an MRA and/or anti feminist?While I acknowledge that some feminists make it harder to achieve gender equality in these domains, I am not against feminism itself. Could you elaborate on this point?Why are you not against feminism? | /r/MensRights | 12/05/23 08:57 PM |
| 3 | Looking for a study on suppression of scienceIs this it? | /r/MensRights | 10/05/23 04:47 PM |
| 5 | “The gender pain gap”. Whatever next.Exactly,they just assume that it is because of discrimination.This could be due to other factors like hospital overcrowding,and differences in triage scores.So for example,if a greater proportion of men have serious emergencies that would make the average wait time for men lower.It's the same nonsense that they pull with the supposed "wage gap" just looking at differences in averages and not accounting for variables that may explain the difference. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/23 09:01 PM |
| 1 | The AI blocked me for the debating female privilegeIt is unreasonable to expect a young boy to provide for his mother and older female siblings.You don't see little boys forced to backbreaking labor or prostitute themselves to older men to provide for their female relatives as oppressive?I do,I also think that the huge sums of money men have to pay to their wifes to marry them is ridiculous.I think parents should be obligated to take care of their children,but the laws should be reasonable and not gender biased.The way that they are in afghanist… | /r/MensRights | 30/04/23 02:35 AM |
| 1 | The AI blocked me for the debating female privilegeHaving to pay a huge dowry and being obligated to provide for your family just because your male is essentially wage slavery.This can even apply to young boys when the father is not around.The mother who is an adult has no obligation to provide. The main point I'm making is that the msm looks at gender issues through a gynocentric lense.So we don't get an accurate understanding how things really are in these countries. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/23 11:23 PM |
| 8 | The AI blocked me for the debating female privilegeThere is also this. From what I understand in many of these middle eastern countries males are obligated to provide for their families.This can lead to them doing dangerous and undesirable work to make money.This article is about men who sold their kidneys to support their families.Here is a quote from the article that is relevant. Najibullah, a 32-year-old from Faryab living in a displacement camp north east of the city said he had decided to sell a kidney for 300,000 Afghani (£2,800) because o… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/23 06:38 AM |
| 18 | Men are 57% of all rape victims and women are most of their rapists, per CDC data. Feminist propaganda about rape is false.Which ones? | /r/MensRights | 27/04/23 07:48 PM |
| 4 | Feminism Against Progress, Pt 2: review by thoughtful & well-read MRA Dr Rick Bradford of Mary Harrington's book. The book prompts him to make general observations on problems feminism has caused and the way forward. Unlike much of his work, doesn't have lots of statistics. Some extracts in commentsThis sounds interesting,I'm definitely gonna read it. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/23 03:16 PM |
| 4 | Why do feminists always portray women as damsels in distress all the time? That's pretty sexist.Feminist complain about the same type of "sexism" that feminist activists endorse,and are in many cases responsible for,and then they blame it on the "patriarchy". I remember one time I listed a bunch of examples of preferential treatment for women in a feminist subreddit,and the response I got was that this was essentially that this is due to the patriarchy treating women like helpless victims. Feminists literally worked with the supposedly hostile sexist "patriarchy", to get this preferential … | /r/MensRights | 22/04/23 12:10 AM |
| 3 | What are problems men face that women don’t face?Exactly,feminists only bring up "benevolent sexism" when they are trying to reframe men's issues as sexism against women.They don't complain about this in their activism. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/04/23 08:06 PM |
| 6 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.50 years ago, you could have made a really good case that misogyny was systemic. Women were excluded from government and high paying jobs. They were expected to have many children and not focus on career. Workplace harassment was not great. This doesn't seem to be true see this and this. There were less womem in goverment,but they were not excluded. The same appears to be true for high paying jobs.I think that jobs like engineering and being a pilot are considered the most high paying.Women were… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 03:59 PM |
| 8 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.That women in certain fields are still seen as incompetent or less competent than men. Some fields still have an "old boys club" mentality. Do you have evidence to show this is even a widespread attitude in these fields and not a few incidents?Also,another thing to consider is that even if this attitude is widespread it may actually be true and not attributable to misogyny.Diversity hiring may actually cause companies to hire less competent women.So the women being hired may be seen as less comp… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 01:16 PM |
| 10 | Misogyny Is NOT Systemic Or Instutional. End Of Story.I downvoted your post because it's simply not true. There is systemic or institutionalized misogyny still around. Maybe not as prevalent as misandry, but to deny it exists is to deny reality. Can you give an example? | /r/MensRights | 20/04/23 10:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who need love the most are repulsive to women. Women who need love are extremely privileged by contrast.How does that square with the fact that women tend to be more romantic, they tend to more often remember their partner's birthdays, they tend to more often stay by their partner's side when they're sick, they more often cook and clean for their partners... 1.Women are not more romantic 2.Don't know if this is even true,but even if it were there is another potential reasons for this aside from caring more.This could be caused by Sex differences in memory .If men genuinely have a harder time remem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 02:19 AM |
| 1 | I believe that women have it easier than men in many waysThe point i'm trying to convey is that simply looking at the proportion of men in power compared to women,and claiming that men have all the power overlooks the influence women in the general population have.People in power care more about women's issues then men's.There are also way more people supporting feminism then men's rights. There are large feminist organizations that have major influence,Now even managed to get a shared parenting bill vetoed. There are more non-profit organizations sup… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 05:07 AM |
| 1 | I believe that women have it easier than men in many waysMen in power are exceptions among men as well.Only a tiny minority of people were in positions of power and that is always how it's been.Most leaders were men but that does not necessarily mean that men in general had more power or were favoured.Conscription is a good example of this.Look at the white feather campaign which involved women shaming men to enlist in the military.Does this seem like men are in power and making all the decisions? The reason why you believe that men made nearly all th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 03:52 AM |
| 2 | I believe that women have it easier than men in many waysEven if what you are saying was true,it doesn't tell us about the present state of gender equality.However,what you're saying is not true,both men and women had restrictive gender roles and women have had social power to change society even before they got the right to vote.The married women's property act being passed is an example of this. Caroline norton was also responsible for the creation of the tender years doctrine. Also,there have literally been multiple queens throughout history.So the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 01:46 AM |
| 2 | I believe that women have it easier than men in many waysCan you elaborate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/23 12:09 AM |
| 6 | Is this study real or just inaccurate? Women call out “medical gaslighting”?If you look into many of these studies you will find that they are correlational,so these articles don't support the claim that women are being discriminated against compared to men.There are many other potential reasons women get treated differently. They may present with different symptoms,they may describe their symptoms differently, there test results may not indicate that there is something wrong with them,They might be in an age group were a particular disease is not as common so the docto… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/23 07:48 PM |
| 7 | What will it take to change your mind?I think the best way to respond to this criticism is to provide multiple lines of evidence supporting your claim when you can.It is one thing to show studies that directly support your claims,but when you also have other corroborating evidence it really strengths your argument. I think a good example of this is the gender empathy gap.Not only do we have real world examples of the empathy gap,but we also have studies showing the cognitive bias that creates the empathy gap.We also have examples of… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/04/23 08:46 PM |
| 8 | The trope that men prefer to work with things while women prefer to work with people is another lie in post feminist age. Men are pack animals. They spend much more time with each other in cultures where it’s acceptableIt's actually true.Men are more interested in things,women are more interested in people.That doesn't mean men are anti-social and women have zero interest in things it is just a relative difference.I agree that humans in general are still social creatures.However,men and women are different in many ways that helps to explain the gender disparities that feminist would attribute to sexism.Men are more into things which is why you will see more men going into engineering for example. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/23 05:17 PM |
| 7 | Do us men really have privilege? Idk anymore. If not what is your best argument against this?The claim that women die more in natural disasters was already debunked in this article.Also,your source for women and children dying 14 times more then men was just a twitter post with a video of someone making this claim.I couldn't find an actual link to a study. Edit:I found a comment another user made showing that the women and children die 14 times more than men claim was just made up. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/23 04:27 PM |
| 10 | The patriarchy doesn't exist. Misogyny and misandry do exist. Feminists pretend to be victims to gain power over men.Except I never said whether or not I agree or disagree with your definition of patriarchy.I was asking a question to get clarification.There you go assuming shit again.This is the typical behavior of an ideologue. Questioning is the same thing as disagreement to people like you. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 07:23 PM |
| 11 | The patriarchy doesn't exist. Misogyny and misandry do exist. Feminists pretend to be victims to gain power over men.Questioning you and disagreeing with you is not arguing in bad faith.You simply don't want to have this debate because you're afraid that your beliefs will be dismantled and that makes you uncomfortable. You are just another arrogant ideologue who wants other people to accept your dogma.This is the wrong subreddit for you.Over here you actually need to clarify things and substantiate your claims,this is not some ideological circle jerk, people are gonna question you. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 06:49 PM |
| 10 | The patriarchy doesn't exist. Misogyny and misandry do exist. Feminists pretend to be victims to gain power over men.What do you think the patriarchy is,and where do you think it originated? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 04:52 PM |
| 12 | The patriarchy doesn't exist. Misogyny and misandry do exist. Feminists pretend to be victims to gain power over men.That is not the question I asked.I asked if you think things would be different if it were mostly women in charge. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 03:59 PM |
| 11 | The patriarchy doesn't exist. Misogyny and misandry do exist. Feminists pretend to be victims to gain power over men.Are you suggesting things would be different if most people in positions of power were women? | /r/MensRights | 08/04/23 03:33 PM |
| 8 | "Toxic Masculinity" vs "Internalised Misogyny"For nearly all of human history and in many countries currently women have been seen as the lesser gender. Source? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/04/23 07:55 AM |
| 8 | Who sends men to war? Other men. Who kills men? Other men.Witch hunting did not just happen to women.It also happened to men.Women could also accuse people of being witches,and many witches were accused by women. This wasn't about benefitting men or women.It was about executing people who were thought to be witches.Non of the "witches" were even seen as human,and they were believed to be witches based on some superstitious belief.It wasn't some plot to kill women,and most women were not affected by this. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/23 03:39 AM |
| 11 | Who sends men to war? Other men. Who kills men? Other men.It benefits everyone in power and women as a whole.That still doesn't disprove my point. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/23 03:17 AM |
| 10 | Who sends men to war? Other men. Who kills men? Other men.The fact that men in positions of power send men to war and not women is evidence against their claim that we live in a patriarchy set up to benefit men at women's expense.Yet they use this as a deflection.Don't let feminist move the goalpost, remind them what the initial claim was and get them to concede. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/23 11:22 PM |
| 48 | Kicked out of debate group on my university campus talking about MensRightsThese are the typical tactics used by feminists to deal with dissenters.They shame you and gaslight you to make you feel bad and doubt yourself.They do this because they typically don't have valid counterarguments.It's pretty much psychological warfare. I think this will only be really effective if they outnumber you,which is typically the case.However,if you are in a group it will be alot more to difficult for them to use these tactics to silence you.This is why feminists in general have more i… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/23 02:31 AM |
| 3 | Pro-female and anti-male biases are more influential than race and other factors in Implicit Association TestsThe IAT is not a valid test there is already ample evidence of pro-female bias besides the IAT test. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/03/23 04:06 AM |
| 14 | Is Misogyny Systematic/Systemic?Feminists start with the a priori assumption that misogyny is to blame for anything negative or unfavorable that happens to women,and then try to find evidence to back that up.That is why alot of their claims of systemic misogyny are backed up by correlations and weak anecdotal stories that they interpret as proof of misogyny. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/23 01:22 AM |
| 5 | Vast majority of men were historically oppressed more than women, if not way more. Books and articles about history are extremely misleading and make people believe that ALL men lived life on easy mode, and not only the small minority of men who were born to noble families.If by inferior physically you mean physical strength then women are generally inferior to men in that aspect.Also,if women were considered intellectually inferior children,then why did these rules only apply to married women.Wouldn't it apply to all women? Also,the obligations that men have to protect and provide for women made it so that they can't just dominate women.It's not like women had no rights in a marriage. Do you think women would agree to get married if that meant they would be oppre… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 07:04 PM |
| 12 | Vast majority of men were historically oppressed more than women, if not way more. Books and articles about history are extremely misleading and make people believe that ALL men lived life on easy mode, and not only the small minority of men who were born to noble families.The man also had obligations to provide for his wife,and could go to jail for her debt,and her crimes.I would not consider that men dominating woman. | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 06:26 PM |
| 11 | Vast majority of men were historically oppressed more than women, if not way more. Books and articles about history are extremely misleading and make people believe that ALL men lived life on easy mode, and not only the small minority of men who were born to noble families.How did men have more power then women.Are you talking about the top 1% of men? | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 06:00 PM |
| 24 | Vast majority of men were historically oppressed more than women, if not way more. Books and articles about history are extremely misleading and make people believe that ALL men lived life on easy mode, and not only the small minority of men who were born to noble families.It is easy to create a narrative that women are being oppressed or mistreated by using fallacious tactics like cherry picking,apex fallacy,and misrepresenting data. There is this really good video that goes over the tactics feminists use to conduct research that supports the patriarchy theory. I believe the reasons why feminist get away with doing this is because of our cognitive bias that makes us more readily view men as perpetrators and women as victims.So because people are already inclined … | /r/MensRights | 23/03/23 01:39 PM |
| 3 | HypocrisyI think anyone who wants equality is both feminists and mens right activists tho. I guess what I’m trying to say that the bad in any group is not truly standing for the ideals of that group; they’re just corrupt and not in it for the right reason. It is not just a fringe minority of feminist who are bad.Prominent feminists,large feminist organizations,and feminist ideology is sexist against men.Feminism is based on a false premise and is full of lies and misrepresentations of data.Warren Farrell… | /r/MensRights | 18/03/23 05:16 AM |
| 6 | HypocrisyYou wanna get mad at feminists saying, “all men.” But then turn right back around and say, “Why do feminists do this that and the and the third.” The difference is that being a man is not something that you choose.You are born male,and men are not inherently bad.That is why it is unreasonable and wrong to make negative generalization about men.Being a feminist is a choice.If you choose to subscribe to a hateful ideology it is reasonable to negatively generalize you. There may be some people who … | /r/MensRights | 18/03/23 03:29 AM |
| 17 | Why are men constantly shamed for their high sex drives or “only wanting sex” as if it is some horrible crime?Women's sex drives arn't lower than men's (in general) - there is even research that indicates thier drives are higher. This is incorrect. Is There a Gender Difference in Strength of Sex Drive? Theoretical Views, Conceptual Distinctions, and a Review of Relevant Evidence The sex drive refers to the strength of sexual motivation. Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts ab… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/23 05:02 PM |
| 2 | Mens rights are so overlooked compared to womens just because women cry and make a big drama out of nothingIt's not that women cry and make big drama out of nothing, it's that women crying or making drama is taken seriously, at all. It's not for men. I agree,and it is usually feminist not women in general that make a big fuss over trivial issues like the pink tax. I will also add that there is alot of feminist propaganda to amplify the empathy gap.The duluth model is an example of this. So there is a lack of empathy for men's issue in the general public,and then there is feminist propaganda to reinfo… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/23 05:11 PM |
| 30 | Why more women than ever are cheating on their husbandsDual Mating Strategy. Alpha males sperm and Beta Billy at home for the financial security. Actually,the Dual mating strategy is really only employed in a minority of cases were women cheat.The mating switching hypothesis is a more well-supported explanation for why women cheat.Mate switching(aka monkey branching) is the predominate strategy. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/23 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Men don't "use women" for sex or only care about sex when dating. Why do people always act like men aren't looking for relationships and just look for sex?It seems pretty mixed to me.My post on The gender empathy gap got upvoted alot and received some awards,and there were definitely some people agreeing with me,but there were also many blue pillers in the comment section who were upset despite all the evidence i provided.They did not have any substantive counterarguments against what i posted though. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/23 01:59 AM |
| 5 | Men don't "use women" for sex or only care about sex when dating. Why do people always act like men aren't looking for relationships and just look for sex?I think that gamma bias might be this reason for this. In this case we think of men as a stereotypical player who just uses women for sex,but doesn't care about relationships.However,we ignore the fact that the vast majority of men do actually also want relationships,and may feel lonely.So this is an exaggeration and misrepresentation of what men desire to push the narrative that they are mostly perpetrators doing harm,and downplaying the good aspect of men as being hopeless romantic who feel lo… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/23 12:34 AM |
| 3 | On the pervasive idea that doctors only downplay womens symptoms, and take mens health issues seriously.I think your point about agency is relevant, though I imagine there are many factors at play including good old gynocentrism. I agree,and I think male victimization and men's issues are more underreported because of gynocentrism.Actual data on health outcomes show that men have shorter life expectancy,worse health outcomes,and shorter healthy life expectancy.So the survey data used to create this narrative of anti-female bias in healthcare is not corroborated by other evidence.Even the studies o… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/23 02:12 AM |
| 8 | On the pervasive idea that doctors only downplay womens symptoms, and take mens health issues seriously.This is true,another one is that alot of women feel like their unsafe because they are women,but men are more likely to be murdered. A similar thing happened with the cdc article showing that girls had an increase in suicidal thoughts,while boys had an increase in suicide rates.It seems like a consistent trend that the attention is focused on self-reported data,instead of data on outcomes. I think this works because there are already cognitive biases that would influence men and womens response … | /r/MensRights | 28/02/23 09:53 PM |
| 14 | On the pervasive idea that doctors only downplay womens symptoms, and take mens health issues seriously.It may actually be true that misdiagnosis happens to women more often,but it is not necessarily due to sexism.It could possibly be because many disease that are more difficult to diagnose are more prevalent in women.Some examples of these diseases are things like multiple sclerosis,fibromyalgia,and endometriosis. It could also be because men go to the doctor less due to working more which may lead to them delaying treatment until things get more serious,and easier to diagnose.For example,late st… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/23 02:50 PM |
| 37 | How do you all feel about this post? c/ : educating.misogynists via IGThere is no way to really know what the actual rate of false rape accusations is.Even when you look at reported rapes.In a majority of cases there is simply not enough evidence to prove the allegations true or false.This poster is being misleading by suggesting that the unfounded cases are counted as false allegations.That is simply not true,they are not counted as true or false. Additionally,this does not even count false allegations that are not reported to the police,but ones that are made on… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/23 12:21 AM |
| 1 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectIt seems that way because you have an extremely gynocentric mind that prevents you from looking at things objectively.I just explained what the issue was. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/23 05:54 PM |
| 6 | Austrian state news presenting data that shows men disadvantaged in health, but twisting it to the opposite.I agree with that,alot of MGTOW men have gone through bad divorces.I also think the ease of making false rape accusations that can ruin a man's life is another big contributor. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/23 07:19 AM |
| 8 | Austrian state news presenting data that shows men disadvantaged in health, but twisting it to the opposite.But you end up with arguments and nagging in part because she thinks she's being used because that's what all of society is telling her. Agreed,I think this is a result of feminists downplaying men's contribution and sacrifices while also unjustly demonizing men in general.Even things like random men risking their lives to save a woman who is being attacked is just seen as the "bare minimum" by alot of feminist women. The devaluation and demonization of men in the west is leading them to seek al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/02/23 04:35 AM |
| 3 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectDo you know what disproportionate means?I never said women's issues should not be talked about if it is an issue that happens to them less.My only point is that the extreme gynocentrism is unwarranted.You are arguing against a strawman.Also,what you see on social media has alot to do with what content you view because that is what the algorithm will show you.That is not comparable to an article from a mainstream news outlet. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/23 11:00 PM |
| 6 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectBoth should be talked about,but boys had a larger increase in actual suicides and the girls had a larger increase in suicidal thoughts and they choose to make suicidal thoughts the priority.It just shows how much they prioritize female issues over male issues. They literally cherry picked the least harmful issue related to suicide to make it about girls when boys are literally killing themselves more.The problem is consistent for every issue there is always a disproportionate amount of attention… | /r/MensRights | 15/02/23 08:06 PM |
| 17 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectThey usually claim that this is benevolent sexism so it it is still sexism against women somehow.This is very hypocritical of them because feminist promote benevolent sexism for women more then anyone.Also,we know if the roles were reversed they would never call the same treatment of men benevolent sexism towards them.They would rightfully call it sexism against women. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 11:04 PM |
| 12 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectThis is a typical thing people do when they try to defend feminism.They cite a paper that may talk about men's issues,and may even try to suggest solutions,but it is always a paper written by an obscure feminist.they never show examples from prominent feminist like gloria steinem and simone de beauvoir. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 08:40 PM |
| 1 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectCan you quote the part where they mention it being an issue?Also,how prominent are these feminist. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 08:00 PM |
| 105 | CDC young men kill themselves 4.5x the rate of young women, young women most affectThis is another example of the gender empathy gap. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/23 04:55 PM |
| 17 | You guys helped me a lot last time I asked about "arguments against gender pay gap" for my class. Now I'm back for arguments that The Patriarchy doesn't exist.Well if you are talking about the feminist definition of patriarchy where we have a system that promotes male dominance and privileges men over women,then there is alot of evidence against this. A great source to look at it is these series of post by u/lightning_palm on the gender empathy gap.These posts goes over how men are disadvantaged on almost every metric,and societies apathy towards men's issues.The post also covers perceptual biases that cause us to care more about women's issues.You ca… | /r/MensRights | 12/02/23 09:26 PM |
| 14 | When is enough, enough?Where does this assumption that men were "horrible" to women come from exactly? It's the same assumption that feminist always make whenever women have issues or unfavorable disparate outcomes.They attribute it to pervasive sexism and systemic oppression against women,and ignore all other factors and historical context.They ignore the fact that life was much more difficult historically which meant that both men and women had less freedom then they do today,because they had to worry about just sur… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 12/02/23 03:26 AM |
| 17 | Almost all organizations trying to help underdeveloped countries always seem to have some kind of bias towards women.Yep,all of the top international organizations support feminism.This includes the UN,The world economic forum,and the Who Edit:Here are some examples of gynocentric bias in these organizations. Global gender gap report(Wef) Bias against men's issues in the United Nations and the World Health Organization Un makes international men's day about women HPV: WHO calls for countries to suspend vaccination of boys Un prioritizes women in Ebola outbreak | /r/MensRights | 06/02/23 08:49 PM |
| 52 | I went to the echo chamber that is r/feminism and I’m not surprised at allPurplepilldebate might be your best option | /r/MensRights | 03/02/23 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Feminist HypocrisyAh, the good ol' Patriarchy. The idea that there is a patriarchy literally makes feminism a religion. You aren't fighting them on their ideas, but instead on their belief system. Agreed,this is why they get hostile and want to censor you when you prove that patriarchy as they describe it is a myth.It's makes them feel uncomfortable to have their belief shattered.So they want you to stop. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/23 01:19 AM |
| 15 | Feminist HypocrisyFeminist complaining about benevolent sexism,but also perpetuating benevolent sexism by only focusing on women's issues and victimization,and blaming men for their issues and women's issues. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/23 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Who has it worse Men or Women?Those stats are relevant because they are all indicators of how much society helps men vs women.The reason why the top commenter said men have it worse is because they don't get as much attention and support for helping with their issues.Women have issues too,but there is more attention,funding,and effort towards fixing or at least mitigating their issues. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/23 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Who has it worse Men or Women?A movement about equality is based on the premise that someone has it worse,and when looking at most metrics men do have it worse.If we can't acknowledge this then there is no point in even talking about these issues For example men are doing worse in education.That is a fact.What is the problem with saying this? | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Who has it worse Men or Women?This sub does frequently talk about men's issues.Also,I don't see how it is not helpful to talk about who has it worse,because the current narrative is that women have it worse which is part of what makes people not take men's issue seriously because they think it is so trivial compared to women's issues.Wouldn't comparing men's issues to women's combat this narrative. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 08:01 PM |
| 19 | Who has it worse Men or Women?And of course women get raped more. Which is of course horrible but men being 80% of all homicide and violent crime victims is worse. Yes getting killed is worse than rape. This somehow triggers feminists but it's true. Death is worse. Deal with it I heard somewhere that when you add prison stats men get raped more.Also female on male rape,and rape of men during wartime is often ignored.It could still be the case that women get raped more,but alot is not taken into account when looking at male r… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/23 05:58 PM |
| 10 | Men are more likely to be truthfully accused of a rape they falsely believed to be consensual than to be falsely accused of rape | Teaching consent to adolescents has brought public support – so why aren't we doing it yet? A push from the public could make the difference!I sort of skimmed over the papers the OP cited,and I see some issues with them. The first one was a literature review that has a questionable inclusion criteria.Here is the inclusion criteria. We included only studies that used large, representative samples of female undergraduates. That is, we included studies in which either all students or a sample of female undergraduates at one or more schools were invited to participate, rather than data sets obtained from women who decided to report their… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/23 08:15 PM |
| 0 | Are these two sides of the same coin?I don't think it is fair to compare the patriarchy to the matrix.Patriarchy is a myth.The "matrix" is more like a theory.The idea behind the "matrix" is that people are being indoctrinated with propaganda so that they can be controlled for the benefit of the elites. The "matrix" is just attributing this propaganda to a hidden agenda.We already know that there is plenty of feminist propaganda out there.The matrix theory would probably be that the purpose of the feminist propaganda is to make men … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 31/01/23 01:56 AM |
| 4 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?No it isn't true,there are differences between men and women's personality,interest, and mate preferences that are consistent across cultures. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 06:30 PM |
| 8 | Is pornography degrading to women? Or does society just have a problem being open about male sexuality?Alot of feminist actually believe that they are rational people with the truth on their side,but they love censoring people who question them,get triggered,and don't debate in good faith.This is just one of many examples of how feminist are logically inconsistent. The level of cognitive dissonance feminists possess is astounding.There is no reasoning with them because being wrong or logically inconsistent doesn't seem to affect them at all.They only care about getting what they want.Trying to re… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/01/23 07:25 AM |
| 11 | Personal Feminism vs Institutional Feminism - the source of the problem?And you want people to view these feminist that you claim exist that no one knows about as representative of feminism?Instead of the people who founded the movement, helped create the ideology,and the ones who currently lead the movement. This is about as ridiculous as saying that you should judge a company based on what the new entry-level employees think about the company.Forget about looking at the history of the company,how they operate,the ceo and all higher up staff,etc.Nope,just talk to t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/23 06:41 PM |
| 16 | Personal Feminism vs Institutional Feminism - the source of the problem?It’s because the average feminist, who is very likely working class, and who shares their day-to-day with the working class men around them, does not have the political or capital power to influence these organizations. Like, people often talk about Feminist lobbying. Most of us, including me, don’t really have money to pay ourselves into politics. Sure, but the average feminist has the power to not label themselves feminist and claim that the movement is about equality.All your accomplishing by… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/23 05:49 AM |
| 27 | Why can't the patriarchy be discussed?Even highly intelligent people can be biased when it comes to certain topics.These people are usually perfectly capable of being logical and discussing other topics in an unbiased way,but if they are emotionally invested in a certain ideology, or have something to gain by adopting that ideology, they are unable to be unbiased when discussing anything regarding their ideology. There are three reasons I can think of for why this happens. Personal experience:If someone has a very impactful personal… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/23 11:21 PM |
| 3 | Help with the "Patriarchy"‘patriarchy’ that you’re using is much too rigid and oversimplified. And then you’re using that slightly skewed definition to argue against and in turn inappropriately discredit the ideology as a whole.This definition would typically fit general discourse on the patriarchy much much better: “Patriarchy is a system of relationships, beliefs, and values embedded in political, social, and economic systems that structure gender inequality between men and women. Attributes seen as “feminine” or perta… | /r/MensRights | 20/01/23 02:06 AM |
| 0 | Help with the "Patriarchy"No, I haven't read that. | /r/MensRights | 19/01/23 09:31 PM |
| 10 | Help with the "Patriarchy"isn’t it exactly what you’d expect? men would pay more taxes because men would typically be in more powerful / financially superior positions No, you wouldn't expect to see that in a patriarchy, because the patriarchy is supposedly a system that benefits men at women's expense.This is doing the opposite.Men literally pay more in net taxes and receive less benefits.More funding goes towards women's health and there are tons of government programs that are exclusively for women.You would not see t… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/23 08:42 PM |
| 20 | Help with the "Patriarchy"Also, men pay more in net taxes, and get less from the tax system then women.Which is the opposite of what you would expect in a patriarchy.The comment below is one that I wrote in the askfeminist subreddit providing similar evidence of gynocentrism. I can provide evidence.First we can look at biases in how men and women are perceived, and then I will give evidence showing how society is gynocentric because of these biases. This paper shows that people have a bias that makes them more readily ty… | /r/MensRights | 19/01/23 06:37 PM |
| 1 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menFurther, if women become run thru and used up by having sex with men, it’s going to be hard not to see mens desires and lust as diminishing to women. They term is used when women have casual sex with tons of different men.I don't think it actually has anything to do with the act of sex itself, it's about being promiscuous, which is something neither men or women like . | /r/MensRights | 14/01/23 02:05 AM |
| 13 | New research questions if pornography is degrading to women, or if we only say that because of unfair stereotypes about menThe idea that men want to degrade women through sex was first popularized by radical feminists who interpreted everything through a lense where men try to dominate and oppress women. Andrea Dworkin was one of them. | /r/MensRights | 13/01/23 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Special report: Drugs companies must address ‘chronic neglect’ of womenI'm sure there are a lot of reasons, they do less drug test on women due to possible impacts on a baby if they were to be pregnant. But there's always been medical biases that women are tougher to pain or hysterical, more emotional. Many are misdiagnosed, or told their symptoms are psychosomatic, due to stress, etc. I watched an emergency room doc diagnose my wife's severe carpal tunnel related pain to having "paint on her hands". If this is true,this could be due to women going to the doctor mo… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/23 10:52 AM |
| 0 | Are we in a Gender Cold War?Society is gynocentric, so I don't think you can actually call it a gender war. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/23 07:53 AM |
| 13 | TIL: Women in Delhi, India, have been enjoying FREE bus travel facilities since 2019. Till now, over 3 crores of them have free-loaded their way around the national capital of India. Meanwhile, the media rhetoric is still about them suffering/dominated by ruthless patriarchy.Which statistics are you looking at? I tried to find stats on the rape rate in india, and from what I can see it is much lower that alot of other countries.You can look here | /r/MensRights | 05/01/23 08:58 AM |
| 6 | "What barriers?" "your question is hostile"This is a great example of a common thing feminist do when they get into a debate.They make sure that they don't address your actual argument, because if they did it would be so obvious that don't have a valid counterargument and they would get embarrassed.So they use tactics to avoiding addressing your argument. In this video they just strayed off topic and started talking about other ways that they personally think they are disadvantage or oppressed instead of answering Pearl's question.Other … | /r/MensRights | 05/01/23 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Should we allow in this sub men who don't reason logically. If so, why?Sure, but the point I'm trying to make is that logic is objective.Also, I agree that people shouldn't censor for being emotional. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/22 05:26 AM |
| 2 | Should we allow in this sub men who don't reason logically. If so, why?Who defines what's logical? What's logical to one may not be to another. Logic is sound reasoning based on solid evidence. | /r/MensRights | 27/12/22 02:55 AM |
| 3 | Should we allow in this sub men who don't reason logically. If so, why?Who gets to decide what constitutes a logical post? That's actually a really good question.I think it is important to define what logical means, because feminists and other ideologues may believe that they are being logical and anyone with an opposing views is the illogical one.When this is not the case when you look at alot of the claims made by feminists. I would say that logic is just having sound reasoning that is based on quality evidence.If someone makes a claim based on flawed or weak evi… | /r/MensRights | 26/12/22 09:48 PM |
| 6 | Is Men's Rights more of an issue of class than gender?Men's issues are not class issues because men are discriminated against on the basis of sex regardless of class.Here are some examples. Infant male circumcision is legal for all males. Bias against male dv victims applies to all men. All men with few exceptions that don't include class must sign up for the draft. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/22 09:36 AM |
| 29 | What are your thoughts on the notion that "men cause their own problems"?I think It's an inaccurate claim that stems from the biased view of men that makes people overestimate male agency, and ignore men's victimization.People who make claims like this are essentially saying that only male perpetrators exist, and that they represent men in general,even the ones who have been victimized by them.This is absurd, men are not a hive mind, and the men who victimize other men are not doing it with their victims consent. We would not accept this argument for women who are mu… | /r/MensRights | 04/12/22 07:44 AM |
| 5 | How do u debunk the feminism dictionary definition argument?Just tell them that feminism doesn't really exist in practice then, only in theory, and that they should start a feminist movement to stop these misandrists posing as feminists. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/22 10:06 PM |
| 17 | Why do feminists call any criticism of feminist misandry/double standards “misogyny” and suggest any man who questions their narrative “hates women?”Because they are intolerant ideologues. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/22 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Man Dies While Begging for Help After Girlfriend Allegedly Locked Him in a Suitcase (VIDEO) And of course none of the media covers something like this.I have heard about some of them. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/22 04:04 AM |
| 3 | Man Dies While Begging for Help After Girlfriend Allegedly Locked Him in a Suitcase (VIDEO) And of course none of the media covers something like this.Wow! I didn't know about that incident,I was going to read The Myth of Male Power I just never got around to doing it, but I'm gonna start reading it now. | /r/MensRights | 21/11/22 02:17 AM |
| 19 | Man Dies While Begging for Help After Girlfriend Allegedly Locked Him in a Suitcase (VIDEO) And of course none of the media covers something like this.If the genders were reversed all the feminist would use this as an excuse to generalize men as dangerous and continue with their fear mongering, but because this happened to a man it's crickets.This is a perfect example of how the media cherry-picking which stories to cover and how to cover them shapes the public narrative. | /r/MensRights | 20/11/22 10:57 PM |
| 3 | A Letter to an AbuserYep, the entire ideology they follow was created by the same people they say are not real feminist.Their cognitive dissonance is astounding. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 19/11/22 03:50 AM |
| 11 | A Letter to an AbuserThis is the label they chose. Fucking own it or stopwearing it. Agreed, It is ridiculous that they want to label themselves feminist and don't want to be associated with the actual movement, and ideology when it suits them, and then want to claim that they are the real feminist based on their belief, and then want everyone else to accept the feminism they describe, which only exist in theory , as the real feminism, and the imaginary feminist who support it as the real feminist.Instead of the fem… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/22 08:38 AM |
| 34 | A Letter to an AbuserYeah,I had a very frustrating debate with a feminist recently.I try not to debate feminist because 9 out of 10 times they don't debate in good faith and it is a waste of time.However, I still feel compelled to try to find the rare feminist who will debate in good faith just to see if my claims hold up against scrutiny. The no true scotsman fallacy is a great example of the 9/10 feminist debates I'm talking about .I guarantee you that these feminist using the no true scotsman fallacy believe in t… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/11/22 02:42 AM |
| 161 | A Letter to an AbuserRandom Feminist Online:"But those are not real feminist!" | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 17/11/22 08:03 PM |
| 3 | Anti-feminist is not anti-women.You chose an obscure post to make your point when this post about celebrating international women's day has 11k upvotes.Which one do you think is more representative of this sub? | /r/MensRights | 13/11/22 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerImagine if you actually spent time doing research and developing critical thinking skills instead of being a dumb ideologue. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/22 04:26 AM |
| 12 | Why are international relief agencies such as the UN or UNICEF so biased against men?This video can answer that question.All the top international organizations support feminism which is a major reason why feminist propaganda is allow to spread and be taken seriously by so many people.I think I might make a post about this. | /r/MensRights | 03/11/22 02:15 AM |
| 114 | Where did the 1 in 5 rape statistic come from and is it true?The 1 in 5 statistic initially came from a very flawed study done on college campuses.Here is a video about it.Then there is also the CDC statistics which come from studies that are not as bad, but they still have major problems like the risk of recall bias, questions that are too ambiguous, etc.I explained the problems with these studies in point #4 in this post | /r/MensRights | 19/10/22 06:25 AM |
| 6 | I dont get this sub, some posters actually talk about real problems , but the mayority of you seem to be more concerned about being as antifeminist as possible, not realizing your are hostile to it because of ignorance and misconceptionsThe narrative of feminism being about equality is just a facade.Feminist want the general public to believe that feminism is just about equality.The self-identified feminist who say "Those are not real feminist" are just the useful idiots that help perpetuate the false narrative. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/22 07:02 PM |
| 2 | "The relations between the sexes are ending – the reason is not technology"This is actually a very good point, It seems like this would have happened either way once women were free to act on their hypergamy.As far as I am aware, every developed country has a fertility rate below replacement levels.However, I think it is fair to say that technology helped make it possible for women to act on their hypergamy, by making it possible for them to be independent from men.Also, apps like tinder,Instagram, etc,makes it much easier for women to hook up with high status men. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/22 08:21 PM |
| 63 | What do you think feminist gets right?Feminist are the ones who do the most to prevent men from spreading awareness about these issues, and pushing laws and policies that go against men's rights. Here is a huge list of examples. -Feminist ellen pence created the Duluth model -Executive director of the feminist majority foundation Katherine Spillar said that domestic violence is just a clean up word for wife beating. -Feminist disrupted a forum for battered husbands. -Feminist Mary p Koss wrote an influential paper defining rape in a… | /r/MensRights | 06/10/22 04:12 PM |
| 56 | Men are expected to but themselves in danger when a group of women assault teen on subwayAlso, male-male violence gets dismissed because the perpetrator is male, but when it's female-female violence we need to not only stop it, but also blame men if they don't intervene.The double standards are incredible. | /r/MensRights | 05/10/22 11:13 PM |
| 4 | Please refute the "flawed" study that everyone quotes saying men leave their partners when they get cancer.Agreed, there is no conclusive evidence to even show that men leave more then women.Studies tend to show that illness in general does not lead to an increased risk of divorce for men and women, and we also don't have any idea what the reason for their divorces is or who initiates it. The couple could divorce for financial reasons but still be together, they could have had relationship issues prior to the spouse becoming ill, etc.There are so many reasons why people can divorce once their spouse … | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 06:22 PM |
| 6 | Please refute the "flawed" study that everyone quotes saying men leave their partners when they get cancer.I made a post about this a while back. The are two major problems with this claim. 1.It is based on studies that only find correlation and not causation, but people are trying to make causal inferences.These studies only look at the association between onset illness and divorce.They also don't even tell you who initiated divorce.So this issues alone already makes this claim unsubstantiated, but it gets worse. 2.The claim is also based on cherry picked studies,so even going by this weak standard … | /r/MensRights | 02/10/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Why do that even bother THEM?I am confused.Why would men need to be involved in clinical trials done on fetuses, and why would more women be excluded.Are you talking about clinical trials on male and female fetuses? | /r/MensRights | 30/09/22 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Why do that even bother THEM?What is the foster? | /r/MensRights | 30/09/22 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Why do that even bother THEM?Can you elaborate.Also, the main point that I am making is that there is no bias that leads to the exclusion of women.If there is good reasons to exclude them I don't see that as bias, so I might be incorrect about them not being routinely excluded from clinical trials, but I think we both agree that it is not due to bias. | /r/MensRights | 29/09/22 04:12 PM |
| 16 | Why do that even bother THEM?Some of what the person said was already addressed in my post 1.There is no evidence of women being routinely over medicated, and I don't know which drugs she is referring to but it doesn't seem like there is any systemic bias against testing women.This study shows that women were not excluded from medical research.So again, her claim even if it is true does not prove that men are seen as the default gender, and there is probably some other explanation for why a specific medication is tested mos… | /r/MensRights | 29/09/22 01:25 PM |
| 27 | I'd like to gather evidence proving that feminists are not for equality. (Megathread?)Here is an excellent post about this. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/22 06:35 PM |
| 10 | Complex problems deserve complex answersThis is a good post.I believe I said this before, and I will say it again.Feminism is not really about fixing women's issues it is about hating men and blaming them for women's issues.This is why they won't propose any solution to a problem unless it involves blaming and/or demonizing men, even if their solution is ineffective.The Duluth model was a good example that you gave. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 27/09/22 06:29 PM |
| 17 | How is rule #1 broken so much here and no one says anythingI would like to see the post that you are talking about.The description of the subreddit says that any issues that pertains to men's relationship to society is a suitable topic. | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 03:05 AM |
| 5 | "The Narcissist's Prayer" is all you need to know to understand feminism's dismissive attitude to male sufferingThis is great.I think you did a good job of summing up all the tactics feminist use to dismiss male suffering and deny feminism role in causing it. This is one I find particularly annoying. And if it is, that's not my fault – this is best shown by the legendary copypasta from u/girlwriteswhat . As her great comment shows, this is often an attempt to subtly reinvoke the "that didn't happen" excuse, by suggesting feminism in practice is some fringe, extreme sect, when in reality that biased man-ha… | /r/MensRights | 25/09/22 02:46 AM |
| 8 | “It’s not the same.” I have no words. Absolutely disgusting.This is an unsubstantiated claim that can be dismissed.As far as I am aware,there is no way to prove how many misogynist murder women, and how many misandrist murder men.No one should take these baseless claims seriously. | /r/MensRights | 24/09/22 08:54 AM |
| 6 | Is it even worth the effort to debate feminists?I went to go look at your debate and it is classic example of how feminist debate.They are not specific enough, often don't cite evidence for their claims, and use logical fallacies. Her argument for why the wage gap is real seems to be her misrepresenting the wage gap claim.The wage gap claim is that women make less for the same work.The study she cited shows that their is an unexplained wage gap, but that of most of the wage gap can be explained by factors that have to do with personal choice.… | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 03:58 AM |
| 24 | Is it even worth the effort to debate feminists?I don't think it is worth the effort to debate feminist in their own spaces, because it's just an echo chamber and you won't convince any of them that their wrong.They also don't argue in good faith so it ends up being a huge pain in the ass to debate with them.They will typically use logical fallacies, refuse to cite evidence to backup their claims, etc. However, I think it is worth it to debate feminist in a neutral space with a moderator in front of an audience that is more representative of … | /r/MensRights | 19/09/22 02:46 AM |
| 8 | In Haryana, 45% rape cases false: SCRB reportI just looked at section 375 of the indian penal code and apparently they allow an exception for marital rape.They also only define rape as a man raping a woman.They don't recognize same sex rape or a woman raping a man.So the rape laws in India are different from the west, and I don't support the exception for marital rape, and how narrowly defined rape is in general there.So it seems like there is definitely a difference in how rape is viewed in India. I read that the exception for marital rap… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/22 04:29 AM |
| 18 | In Haryana, 45% rape cases false: SCRB reportThis is interesting because I saw this video saying that Haryana is basically a rape culture.Do you think this claim is exaggerated? | /r/MensRights | 18/09/22 01:34 AM |
| 25 | Do men suffer because they are men?The feminist response to this would be to blame men and say that they create these problems for themselves. "Patriarchy hurts men too" "And whose fault is that, men" Of course we all know that this is ridiculous,because men are not a monolith.Even if other men cause these problems It is nonsensical to victim blame men who are suffering at the hands of other men.It is also a red herring that feminist use to avoid conceding that men do in fact suffer because of their gender and it is not self impo… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/09/22 06:09 PM |
| 4 | Article claiming that "female suffering not taken as seriously as male suffering"When you read through the study and look at the background information they provide, you can see that there is not really clear evidence of bias against women in pain in the scientific literature. Despite clinical evidence of underestimation and undertreatment of female patients’ pain, laboratory findings on sex biases in pain estimation have been inconsistent.10,26,36,51,52 In some studies, females have been judged as being in more pain than males based on their facial expressions 51,52.In othe… | /r/MensRights | 15/09/22 04:41 PM |
| 4 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt. 2I just watched the video you recommend and it was excellent.Thanks. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/22 07:02 PM |
| 10 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt.1I could summarize the key points -She tried to debunk hypergamy by using studies that supposedly showed that hypergamy was declining in developed countries were women are less financially dependent on men.So her argument is essentially that hypergamy only exist because women are financially dependent on men in these developing countries. However, these studies are only looking at educational attainment.When you look at studies that also look at income .You see that women still have a tendency to… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/22 06:29 PM |
| 3 | "More Men are Raped than Falsely Accused"Are there any studies on how many men are falsely accused socially, or outside of the court system? I don't know of any studies like that, but that is actually a very good point you brought up.Feminist always talk about how most rapes go unreported, but they don't consider the fact that some false rape accusations are done on social media or other places .They can't say for sure that rape is more common then false rape accusations for men.There is no data on false allegations that never went to … | /r/MensRights | 08/09/22 05:43 AM |
| 1 | "More Men are Raped than Falsely Accused"I also want the source. | /r/MensRights | 08/09/22 05:34 AM |
| 1 | I am a woman. I’m trying to understand the MRM (men’s rights movement) lYou mean understand feminism? | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 06:57 PM |
| 1 | I am a woman. I’m trying to understand the MRM (men’s rights movement) lI apologize if another commenter said that women were trying to remove men’s rights and I attributed that to you. I’m trying become a more well-rounded human being and that’s why I made this post. Ok, then you must have just replied to me by accident then.If that is the case then I don't really have any issues with your stance on men's rights then. | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 06:49 PM |
| 2 | I am a woman. I’m trying to understand the MRM (men’s rights movement) lI asked if you guys hated all women while being a woman and you told me that women are trying to take away men’s rights. I’m a woman and I’m not trying to take anything away from you. This is the sort of bad faith arguing that I don't like.I never said that women were trying to take away men's rights.I simply showed that there is less concern given to men's issues, and that is why the men's rights movement exist.The answer to your question is no.Men's rights activist don't hate women. You seem t… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 06:26 PM |
| 2 | I am a woman. I’m trying to understand the MRM (men’s rights movement) lThe difference between men and women issues is that women's issues are already being addressed to the fullest extent reasonably possible by society even if it comes at men's expense.There is the Duluth model, the Vawa,Tons of domestic violence shelters for women, Female infant genital mutilation is already banned in countries like the US, and the UN and Who have a goal to ban it globally by 2030. This is why many countries in Africa have banned fgm, but still allow mgm.Sudan is the most recent e… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/22 06:08 PM |
| 1 | My response to the video titled I Debunked the Entire Manosphere pt. 1Sure, I kind of like summarizing. 1.She tries to disprove hypergamy by using studies that show women are starting to marry down in educational attainment, but doesn't realize that women are still showing a tendency to marry up in terms of income.She essentially tries to make that case that hypergamy is just a phenomenon that exist in developing countries, because women are more dependent on men there and I show why that is wrong. 2.She misinterprets what monkey branching is, and thinks it has to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 03:15 PM |
| 10 | In general, do men really care that they are considered expendable?Yes, I think men in general don't care about being considered more expandable then women if they get some respect in return.I think most men are moderately gynocentric, but don't like the extreme gynocentrism that feminist are promoting.They don't like being demonized just for being men, and having a biased presumption of guilt placed on them.I think the majority of men's rights activist want equal treatment, but men's rights activist make up a small minority of men in general. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/22 02:45 AM |
| 12 | In general, do men really care that they are considered expendable?And by the way, men aren't really the last out of sinking ships https://www.australiangeographic.com.au/news/2012/07/shipwrecks-every-man-for-himself-says-study/ That is a very flawed study and someone has already wrote a thorough critique showing how flawed it is. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/22 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Wow! How do they justify wording it like this?The main thing they highlight in the article is that there was a sharper increase in pain killer overdose deaths among women then men from 1999-2010.However, I think it is sort of misleading to look at the relative increase instead of the absolute increase in pain killer overdose deaths.If we look at things in absolutes there were 1,287 women who died in 1999 and 6,631 women who died in 2010 from opioid overdose according to their chart.That is 5,344 additional women who died.They don't give us … | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 08:13 AM |
| 11 | Wow! How do they justify wording it like this?Here is the webpage if you want to read it.This is not a journal of medicine dedicated to women it is just the cdc website.If you read through the article it does actually seem pretty biased.Men die more from pain killer overdoses, but the article focuses on the risk to women. | /r/MensRights | 03/09/22 07:27 AM |
| 7 | How does misandry hurt men in the same ways misogyny hurts women?In what ways exactly are you saying that misogyny hurts women.I can't actually answer your question if I don't know what you mean. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/09/22 12:42 PM |
| 2 | It’s all bullshit programmingYou might find this article interesting. It's like the flipside of people not caring about men: Oh yeah, I have seen this article before.I think it does a good job of showing the people have a pro-female bias. | /r/MensRights | 31/08/22 01:39 AM |
| 16 | It’s all bullshit programmingThe entire male experience is gaslit. I agree with you.This is why I wrote this post. I think a lot of men know that there is bias against men in society, but may have doubts about it because of the extreme gaslighting, and hostile reaction whenever someone points out the bias.My post is supposed to show that this bias is pervasive,and explain why it exists.I think once you understand why you are being gaslight you no longer doubt yourself.Pretty much everything we are told about the state gende… | /r/MensRights | 30/08/22 07:48 PM |
| 6 | Majority of the AskFeminists subreddit's views on feminism are actually great. It's the hostile attitude that makes me turn away and runMeanwhile their main issues are things like how men sit. Really? Life must be tough when those are your chief complaints. The difference between men's rights and feminism is that most of the issues that feminist talk about are either fabricated or they are already being addressed to the fullest extent reasonably possible by society and they can't come up with any other practical solutions they want to implement to address those issues.On the other hand there is clear bias against men, so there i… | /r/MensRights | 29/08/22 05:05 AM |
| 2 | My take on issues within the MRA movementI think I somewhat agree.I have seen sites like what your describing talking about men's issues, but I have not seen a centralized source dedicated to addressing feminist propaganda.There are a lot of post on this subreddit, but I think it would be great if we had one post for example.That contained a list of post challenging feminist theories and debunking feminist propaganda. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/22 05:55 PM |
| 11 | Found this infographic on Twitter claiming women work more than men.I feel that it is mentally lazy of us to dismiss dozens of studies demonstrating women's greater contribution to unpaid labor, based solely off a notion that men's work is undercounted. We are not dismissing the fact that women do more unpaid labor.We are just saying that men's unpaid labor is typically undercounted which means that their overall hours worked is probably more then what these graphs show. Why is it that whenever men bring up an issues that affects them it is seen as trying to dis… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 02:34 PM |
| 34 | Found this infographic on Twitter claiming women work more than men.I noticed in page 19 of the report it says this. *Methodological Note: Regional averages are simple averages across the countries, not population weighted. Data for all countries include time spent on unpaid and paid work by all men and women, not just participating men and women (e.g., not just mothers for childcare). UN Women’s data is harmonized by country to the extent feasible, but country-level data are not strictly comparable due to factors such as age groups and methodology of data colle… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/08/22 03:44 AM |
| 10 | ‘Men have issues because they don’t talk’This is just one of the poor arguments people use when they are trying to shift the blame on to men for their issues, instead of acknowledging that bias against men's issue is a societal and institutional problem. Here are some examples of what happens when men try to speak up about their issues. https://youtu.be/hx5x0Ztffm4 https://youtu.be/GO_X4DkwA_Q https://youtu.be/Eig0YxBP6aM https://youtu.be/UJ4KSOX8fYs Also, what I noticed is that the people who try to claim that the problem is that men … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/08/22 02:52 PM |
| 49 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?The gender empathy gap I think that most people may not believe that it is real because they have primarily or only been told about the plight of women and girls their whole lives, and may have not really considered that men may not only also have issues, but that their issues are being ignored and suppressed.It runs counter to everything they have been told so it may be hard for them to believe, but it is true.There is pervasive bias against men's issues that exist in society, government, and l… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 06:55 PM |
| 6 | What are some (MRM related) facts that sound false but is actually true and deserves way more attention?At the very least I don't think you can argue that women do more. Men seem to do more across the board, regardless of source. The question is just how much more. The only source that I have seen show that women do more work overall is the Oecd data, but some of things that they include as unpaid work seems kind of broad and ambiguous.For example, they count shopping as unpaid work, but how much of the shopping is grocery shopping and how much of the shopping is for fun.Also, they included volunt… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/08/22 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Women are biologically driven to self preservation and have a bias to agree with other women. Men are biologically driven to protect women and most of the time agree with the opposite sex over their own.I found this cross-cultural study showing sexual dimorphism in human faces.The study found that women had more female-like faces while men had more male-like faces. Women consistently had more feminine faces,but there was some variation in the degree of facial sexual dimorphism across cultures. Also, before you say that this doesn't prove women are more neotenous this is how they describe female facial morphology The traits associated with female facial morphology are characterized by a rather g… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/22 03:55 AM |
| 4 | Women are biologically driven to self preservation and have a bias to agree with other women. Men are biologically driven to protect women and most of the time agree with the opposite sex over their own.I already hyperlinked it.it's this one. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/ | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 08:18 PM |
| 4 | Women are biologically driven to self preservation and have a bias to agree with other women. Men are biologically driven to protect women and most of the time agree with the opposite sex over their own.I probably could find a study like that, but I'm not sure why I should when we already know that estrogen makes your face more neotenous, and gives women a higher voice and other neotenous traits and women have way more estrogen then men.The way women develop literally makes them more neotenous. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 07:43 PM |
| 4 | Women are biologically driven to self preservation and have a bias to agree with other women. Men are biologically driven to protect women and most of the time agree with the opposite sex over their own.As for that 2004 study, it has a low n and is not at all cross cultural. The best that can be said for it is that it shows that, under certain circumstances and in certain cultural groups, women are socially more accepted. That is a very weak read upon which to make claims over all of humanity, everywhere. I agree that this particular study is not a good one especially because it uses the implicit association test which is unreliable.However, there is plenty of evidence that shows how we as spec… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 04:44 PM |
| 31 | Women are biologically driven to self preservation and have a bias to agree with other women. Men are biologically driven to protect women and most of the time agree with the opposite sex over their own.I made a post about this.I think our lack of empathy for men and boys has actually become maladaptive in our current environment.In the past it was necessary for the survival of the species, but now it isn't really needed anymore but still exist because it's just been hardwired into us.Another part of the reason why it has gotten so bad is because of feminism.Feminist's have weaponized the natural pro-female bias we as a species have in order to benefit and prop up women, and disadvantage and de… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/22 11:48 AM |
| 5 | Child CustodyThis article probably addressing most of the issues with this claim.Even if fathers do get custody alot when they seek custody this is probably due to sample bias, because only father who have a really good case would seek custody.Also, the 1989 study that this article was addressing showed that when mothers seek custody they get sole custody at a higher rate then men. Also, u/Oncefa2 made a post about this. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/22 10:49 AM |
| 1 | Men are more likely to divorce a sick wife.The US has really messed up system of covering the costs of medical services. Some people use divorce as a means of reducing these costs. Simple as that. It's interesting you mention that because I made a post that has studies from other countries with different results. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:46 AM |
| 2 | Men are more likely to divorce a sick wife.Yeah I read this as well and I've seen it irl too. It really puts a fly in the red pill ointment in my opinion. They are always so keen to point out how women view men as a utility, can't really love, are only opportunistic and endlessly hypergamous when this proves the opposite is true. Men who when their loyal, loving wives get sick suddenly go "oh no my sex and housework robot is broken, let me dump it in the trash and get a new one, she's worthless without her utility to me" No, what this re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Men are more likely to divorce a sick wife.I already addressed this claim | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:21 AM |
| 5 | Apparently Now Men Are Single Because Of A " Skills Deficit ". What Skills Are We Talking About Here?Yep,the article doesn't even cite one study to back up the claims being made, but people take it and run with it as usual because it's putting the blame on men. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/22 06:04 AM |
| 4 | PatriarchyThe reason why this characterization of the patriarchy is wrong is because it assumes that these men in power don't listen to women at all.Which is just patently false.Even going back to the 1800's feminist were able to get the married women's property act passed. Then there is also the fact that Caroline Norton is responsible for the creation of the tender years doctrine which was a legal principle for a long time.The Duluth model was also created by a feminist named Ellen pence in the 1980's. … | /r/MensRights | 11/08/22 06:30 AM |
| 22 | Data that claims to debunk redpill dialog on dating. ThoughtsUsing data for one year doesn't disprove the trend.especially since we were in the middle of dealing with covid in 2021 and people were staying home more often.Also, the author mentioned that the vast majority of people who were having sex were doing it in a relationship, but a large percentage of young women and an even larger percentage of young men are single.So that leads me to believe that there is sample bias happening here that makes the sample unrepresentative.It seems like most of the p… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/08/22 11:38 PM |
| 27 | Hypocrites 😏, Toxic male separatist movement ?? If so your independent women movement is a toxic seperatist movement. What are they thinking women can be proud single and but men can't. you'll be branded as toxic incel or seperatist ?That actually seems like a pretty good middle ground between being a mgtow monk, and getting married and cohabiting with a woman. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 05:58 AM |
| 166 | Hypocrites 😏, Toxic male separatist movement ?? If so your independent women movement is a toxic seperatist movement. What are they thinking women can be proud single and but men can't. you'll be branded as toxic incel or seperatist ?The shaming that men in the Mgtow community get shows how apathetic society really is towards men's issues.Becoming Mgtow is a logical thing to do when you look at the ways men are disadvantaged legally, socially, and in the sexual marketplace compared to women.I don't know if I would do it personally because it seems like a difficult way to live, but I understand why a man would decide to become Mgtow. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/22 05:21 AM |
| 2 | I saw this on r/AskFeminists. Can y’all help me debunk this?1 This point was already addressed in this post.Plus the argument that it's just used to disrupt conversation about the female stat is bullshit, even when men try to attend a conference discussing male suicide it gets shut down by feminist. 2 This might be true for a good chunk of history, but she is totally missing the point of bringing that stat up,which is to show that we don't live in a patriarchal system that advantages men at the expense of women.Men are literally seen as more disposable. … | /r/MensRights | 08/08/22 11:58 AM |
| 8 | Feminists constantly blame the patriarchy for men's problems, but the remedy for this makes no senseFeminists don't have to make sense and never had to.Their whole movement is based of the false premise that society is an oppressive patriarchy.Society cares more about the interest, safety, and wellbeing of females so there movement is seen as morally justified, and morality doesn't necessarily have to be rational or logically consistent.This is the reason why they don't have to make sense. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/22 01:22 PM |
| 19 | Reddit tries to justify its hateful demonization of all menThe top comment was about how you should not correct people making bigoted and false statements were they negatively generalize men, because you should validate their feelings.This is dangerous logic to follow in my opinion. Validating their feelings would make them feel as though their statement is valid, and could potentially lead to them harboring hatred towards men in general.Now imagine if we did this to everybody and what a hateful society that would lead to.There would be a bunch of peopl… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/22 10:47 PM |
| 12 | Thoughts on the video titled: "I Debunked the Entire Manosphere"?So I looked at the report that they quoted in the article, and I found out that this is the study that they were referring to.I don't know how they came up with 75% number when the study seems to show that it's 66%. Out of 1,167 respondents, 834 described some experience with interpersonal mistreatment in their workplace in the previous 5 years. Of those, 223 expressed voice about the mistreatment, and then described whether SRV or WRV followed. Sixty-seven of these employees (30% of the 223) ex… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/22 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Do women have it better than men these daysDo you have sources to support the claims you are making? Also,some of the things you said seems to apply to men in these countries as well. Rape is also common and often goes completely unpunished. In a lot of asian countries rape against men isn't even a crime.Also, It seems like male rape is taken less seriously in Africa. In addition it's common in many of these cultures for the men to do very little work, and put all the weight on the women. Or if the parents decease, the men will assume th… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/22 11:24 AM |
| 1 | Do women have it better than men these daysBut in many Asian countries women have it worse Can you elaborate. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/22 04:04 AM |
| 28 | RealizationThere is also the fact that toxic masculinity is, in part, enforced by women. They can tout that men should be able to show emotions and cry all they like, I know of enough examples in my social circle of women getting completely turned off my a man showing vulnerability and sadness that I'd be weary to show any "weakness" in front of most women. "Toxic masculinity" is literally just men competing to be attractive to women.The reason why men strive for status, and try to appear strong and stoic … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 26/07/22 07:50 AM |
| 7 | The CDC's Rape Numbers Are MisleadingI was planning on making a post about this.There are some serious methodological weaknesses in the nisvs and nvaw surveys that could lead to inflated statistics. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/22 12:24 AM |
| 8 | Women already live longer than men. What more do you want?Also, even though women spend a higher proportion of their life in poor health.The total years they spend in good health is still higher.So their healthy life expectancy is still higher than men's. | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 05:13 PM |
| 15 | Women already live longer than men. What more do you want?Women in England live on average four years longer than men but spend more of their life in poor health, which can limit their ability to work and participate in day-to-day activities. Which is probably due to the fact that they have higher life expectancy.That is what this study suggests. Through proportional analyses, this study finds that longer lives are accompanied by increases in the proportion of life spent in poor health, and concludes that women suffer from worse health than men do not … | /r/MensRights | 20/07/22 10:29 AM |
| 9 | On Supposed Historical Women's Oppression in Regards to RapeRape against women has historically been treated less seriously than it is now. For example is wasn't considered rape if a husband raped his wife. Are you referring to the coverture laws?If I remember correctly I think men and women were legally obligated to have sex with their spouse under coverture, and men could get sued for being impotent. | /r/MensRights | 18/07/22 07:17 AM |
| 5 | Women currently make up ~28% of the US Congress. Do you think things would be better if their representation were more proportional to population?Sure, but mostly likely things would either stay the same or get worse for men.Most people in general don't really care about men's issues so it's highly unlikely that they would elect women who would help fix men's issues. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 04:49 AM |
| 10 | Women currently make up ~28% of the US Congress. Do you think things would be better if their representation were more proportional to population?So what do you think? Would a more demographically representative government (in terms of gender) be likely to yield more equitable or progressive results? Would it be valuable even without a hypothetical ideological shift? (i.e., is demographic representation for its own sake worth pursuing?) No,I think it may even make things a bit worse for men.The government is already gynocentric, and I doubt having more women would get us closer to being egalitarian. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 16/07/22 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Are men really worthless?I think it becomes reductionist if the argument is exclusively biologically determinist, as most sensationalists like to do, which is not the crux of my argument. But as I state in my last paragraph, the biologically deterministic view or sex-essentialist view that fewer women are interested in STEM for instance due to biological differences is unfounded: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19824299/ but still reaffirmed as pre-existing beliefs in the Western world, regardless these preferences betw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 06:23 AM |
| 8 | What do you like the most about being male?I can't think of anything more disposable than the dating culture. Being used as cannon fodder in a war is not more disposable to you?Also, men don't have an easy time attracting women so I don't really get your argument here.It's true that as a woman gets older they have a harder time dating, but men have a hard time by default and won't generally be seen as attractive unless they drastically improve themselves to be attractive.The complaints older women have about having a hard time dating or … | /r/MensRights | 09/07/22 05:52 AM |
| 4 | What do you like the most about being male?Women live longer, however men live a higher percentage of their life in good health and men's life expectancy is growing faster than women's Source? | /r/MensRights | 09/07/22 05:20 AM |
| 38 | What do you like the most about being male?He is talking about male disposability on a societal level.Men being sent to war, men's health receiving less funding, workplace deaths being mostly men,the death of men and boys not being given as much attention or recognition as the death of women and girls,etc. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 11:45 PM |
| 6 | It's Time to Implode America's Gender War | Suzanne Venker speechThere is no gender war.Society is overwhelmingly gynocentric, and I already provided evidence to back up this claim in this comment. I think that the idea of a gender war comes from some men in the manosphere who project their views on to the general population.However, the manosphere is comprised of a very small minority of men and is not representative of men in general.When you look at more generalizable evidence it becomes clear that we live in a gynocentric society. | /r/MensRights | 08/07/22 12:08 AM |
| 24 | Guys, guys, guys, I just Googled : "How do I benefit from the patriarchy?" check this out :Men whine that women have it easy. Women whine that men have it easy. But no one wants to just say both suffer in different fields and start solving problems. People prefer to go on endless diatribes about how THEY are hard done by and the other gender has no idea. Empathy is a lost art. This is not true,I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion,but it's wrong.society is clearly gyno-centric and there is an abundance of evidence to prove this. To start of there is this pewresearch survey show… | /r/MensRights | 03/07/22 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Women who say men don’t have empathyWomen who say this are just trying to use shaming language to get men to do what they want.It's an effective tactic because men actually do care about women, and are bothered when women say these things.I believe this is intentional emotional manipulation, because how can these women claim that men are oppressive cruel people and then turn around and ask for their help?I just don't believe that level of cognitive dissonance is even possible. | /r/MensRights | 02/07/22 06:05 AM |
| 56 | Feminist Strategy: Insult Men While Demanding Our Help3:06-3:12 "guys If you don't want us going after your rights then you better get of your hairy asses and join the fight to defend ours." As if men in the US don't already have zero reproductive rights, and can be forced to pay child support to their rapist. Like men don't already have no right to genital integrity. Like men don't already have to register for selective service. This is just shows how much apathy women like her have for men.They don't even want to acknowledge men's issues, but at … | /r/MensRights | 01/07/22 07:44 PM |
| 2 | Daily Mail rehashing the same old clinical trial/medical injustices myths.I noticed that this article presents the findings of a lot of these studies in a biased and misleading way.Here are some examples. Although men are more likely than women to be in a car crash, when women are involved in an accident on the road they are almost twice as likely to become trapped in a vehicle, according to a study of more than 70,000 people in the UK, published in the journal BMJ Open last month What they fail to mention is that are many factors that are not accounted besides sex th… | /r/MensRights | 28/06/22 08:01 PM |
| 8 | The Myth That Abortion Laws Are Men Legislating Women's BodiesThe most important point this article missed is that abortion views differ based on party affiliation not gender.I noticed that all the female Supreme Court justices who voted to not overturn Roe v. wade were democrats nominated by Obama.The only woman who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade was a republican nominated by Trump.The same thing with the men.Most of the men who voted to overturn Roe v. Wade were republicans nominated by Trump or Bush.The only man that voted to not overturn Roe v. Wade was… | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 05:53 PM |
| 8 | What are your opinions on the patriarchy?It's bullshit,we live in a gyno-centric society.Patriarchy is usually defined as men being in power and having privilege over women because there are men in power.When you ask feminist about this privilege that men have over women they will usually bring up something that has been debunked already ex.wage gap, pink tax, etc. They have a very hard time actually giving legitimate examples of male privilege.On other hand it is easy to name female privileges like like lighter sentences for the same … | /r/MensRights | 26/06/22 04:24 PM |
| 8 | Scientific studies about men's reality - In search of resources [NEED HELP PLEASE READ!]Here are some studies you can look at. 1.Men's health in the United States:a national health paradox This study is about how men have worse health outcomes then women, but have less attention and resources put towards there health. 2.Gender bias in moral typecasting This study shows that people have a bias to view men as having more agency and typecast them as perpetrators, and view women as having more patiency and typecast them as victims. 3.Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Ca… | /r/MensRights | 24/06/22 12:27 AM |
| 9 | Just because I produce testosterone, doesn’t mean I must be physically strongThe strongest people and best athletes in most sports are men. To conflate this with all men being stronger than all women is an example of the apex fallacy however. I don't think this is really a great example of apex fallacy, because even though it is true that not all men are stronger then all women, most men are stronger then most women.So strength differences between the outliers may actually be representative of strength differences between men and women in general.Men are stronger then wo… | /r/MensRights | 23/06/22 04:43 AM |
| 17 | When Women become menThat's sugarcoating to appease everyone.If we look at objective measures to indicate who is doing worse you would see that men are doing worse overall.Suicide rates, homicide rates, homelessness etc. are all areas were men are doing worse. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/22 03:17 PM |
| 5 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerIt is related to men's rights because the narrative that is being pushed in the video is a major reason why people don't take men's rights seriously.When someone denies the fact that society focuses more on women's issues, and tries to make it seem like there are all these ways that women are uniquely discriminated against that is due to the sexist patriarchal society we live in, it makes people less sympathetic towards men's issues.It reinforces the biased typecasting of men as agentic perpetra… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 04:03 PM |
| 3 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerThe video you are responding to is a good example of how feminists think bad things happening to women means women are worse of than men. Even if everything in the video was true, the video doesn't debunk the claim that society focuses more on women's issues. Yes, she did not even refute the commenters claims in her video.There is already plenty of evidence showing that society does focus more on women's issues and I wrote about that already in a different post.Also,I do agree that many of the c… | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 01:11 AM |
| 2 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerThat's true, I think that it's just that when I think of mra content creators, I think about people who talk more in depth about men's issues and bring up statistics and data to back up what there saying.However, I think she just has a different form of advocacy that's more acceptable and relatable to people. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/22 12:35 AM |
| 4 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerShe kinda seems more like a relationship and dating advice content creator then a men's right content creator. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 04:03 PM |
| 4 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerWhat you've did was amazing dude. The sensationalism gets the easy clicks and not the boring stuff. (In this case, your in depth explanation). When I get up, I will definitely look into this thoroughly because I can see that even other threads (that had their own explanations) were linked in here. This post should get more attention on this sub. I agree 100% people see a headline that fits their bias and run with it.I have even been guilty of doing that in the past.However, to me that is not the… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 01:45 PM |
| 4 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerYes, it took me 2 weeks to do all the research and write my responses.I doubt it took her even half the amount of time to gather all of those articles.There is a quote by Alberto Brandolini that says"The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude larger than to produce it".This is very true,it takes almost no effort to bring up an article or study to support your claim, but it takes a lot more effort for someone to refute it.This is why so many inaccurate claims don't ge… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 07:17 AM |
| 11 | Addressing all the claims made in a video by a feminist tiktokerYes, what feminist don't want to acknowledge is that both men and women have a pro-female bias, and that the government prioritizes their interests over men's.It goes against the narrative that women are oppressed by men.So instead they say things like women are underrepresented in government without actually showing how that has a negative impact on women as a whole compared to men.Also, I just think the idea that men in power means women will be discriminated against is absurd.Women's interest… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/22 05:26 AM |
| 14 | An unpopular and almost hidden fact: On average, everybody implicitly favors women, and women favor women far more than men.The average guy thinks rationally perhaps about 5 % of his decisions, the rest is automatic and based often on unconscious associations. Can I see the evidence to support this claim? | /r/MensRights | 03/06/22 12:30 PM |
| 50 | An unpopular and almost hidden fact: On average, everybody implicitly favors women, and women favor women far more than men.The IAT is not a meaningful test because it only measures the quick unconscious emotional responses that you have that can change once you have enough time to think rationally.This is why it can't be linked to any sort of real world behavior.Also, it has very poor reproducibility.This is a quote from this article discussing the IAT. “The IAT’s architects have reported that overall, when you lump together the IAT’s many different varieties, from race to disability to gender, it has a test-retest … | /r/MensRights | 03/06/22 12:00 PM |
| 6 | Dear Feminists- what do you do to help men? Signed, a Men's Rights ActivistThey also opposed default joint custody which is great for men too because now they don't have to worry about having to spend time with their kids. Also, when they shutdown mra marches, and meetings this is very helpful to men,because now instead of men speaking about their issues,feminist can just speak on their behalf and tell them what their issues are.It's clearly just toxic masculinity.It's great that feminist do this because now men don't even have to express themselves. Feminism is really… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/22 05:52 AM |
| 4 | stoicism and menI wonder if part of the issue with talking to women is that men's viewpoints and problems just aren't understood by women. I disagree, this might sound pessimistic and might get me downvoted, but I think the truth is that they just don't care about men's issues or viewpoints.There are some men's issues that are common knowledge that are not advocated for by a significant portion of women.Things like the much higher male suicide rate, the bias against male domestic violence victims, and infant ma… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 29/05/22 12:50 AM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about evolutionI disagree with that.Sure natural selection has no purpose in the sense that it is not a living sentient being that can make it's own decisions, but we still assign a purpose to natural processes that happen based on what it does.In this case, natural selection makes a population better suited to it's environment.So that is the purpose of natural selection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/22 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about evolutionOk, so what your saying is that random mutations are not natural selection, and don't have anything do with natural selection, but some people think it does.I agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 11:21 PM |
| 1 | Misconceptions about evolutionin reality natural selection is just something that happens, like an organism suddenly developing a mutation that benefits it, it simply happened out of randomness, it didnt happen because natural selection wanted it, it is not uncommon for organisms to develop mutations that do not benefit them in their current enviorenment. I thought that natural selection was about traits that were more adaptive to a populations enviorment becoming more prevalent in that population,due to the fact that organi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 09:36 PM |
| 10 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureAmerica -only men must sign up for Selective service -Women in America have government programs that men do not have. -A majority of sex-specific scholarships areexclusively for women -Women get shorter sentence for the same crimes -Women have more government spending put towards health research that is sex-specific, and more attention given to their health even though men have worse health outcomes. -Women have way more Non-profit organization advocating for them -The Duluth model assumes men a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/22 08:00 AM |
| 2 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureLook at what the article says regarding Asian and European genetics regional differences. More paternal variance than maternal That is because of migration not gene contribution.The women migrated to other regions to mate with men as a result there was less genetic differences in maternal dna between the regions due to women of different descents spreading their genes to other regions.The effective population size estimates are what matters.You can see that in figure 6. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/22 06:55 AM |
| 2 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureIf it were a biological imperative, it wouldn't need to be said and reinforced. But as a cultural imperative, it matches precisely. Well when that order is being given there are other biological imperatives at play.Fear is one of them, and also the desire to protect your family and stay with them is another, and I think these biological imperatives can overide the desire to protect random women.To give an example of what I'm talking about you can think about the people who are starving and decid… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 23/05/22 05:27 AM |
| 7 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureI'm asserting that it isn't a natural thing to have an empathy gap against men. There's just too much evidence against the idea that that bias is 'inherent', when we are perfectly capable of being biased against women, or for men with the right soccer jersey. We can definitively prove that we have physiological reactions regarding people we know well, who are in our immediate 'tribe'; everyone else, is pure frontal lobe abstraction. We barely are able to form theory of mind past 150-200 other in… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 05:32 PM |
| 2 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureThis carries over to genetic variation in children as well, and variation expressed in the X genes would affect both men and women equally, if in different ways, because both carry forward and 'read' from those genes even if inactive. How would it effect them equally if men only have one X chromosome?Men are more likely to be affected by X-linked reccesive diseases, and even though women can be carriers at least they wouldn't be affected.I think this kind of lends credibility to the claim that m… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 04:36 PM |
| 4 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureCould you give examples of places where the empathy gap is not expressed? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 04:08 PM |
| 5 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureIn the article you linked it says that most genes that are expressed differently between males and females don't live on the X and Y chromosomes. In fact, 95% of genes that are expressed differently between males and females don't actually live on the X and Y chromosomes, Wilson said. For instance, ESR1, a gene that encodes for estrogen receptors, is found on chromosome 6. These receptors are vital for female growth and sexual development. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 03:51 PM |
| 4 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureThe idea that 'one man can get 100 women pregnant, but no woman can have 100 men's children' seems like sound reasoning at first, but it just doesn't scan on a deeper look. That man may have 100 children, but unless he somehow parasitizes the efforts of an entire kingdom, those children will not individually have the same chances of having grandchildren themselves as 2 to 8 or so raised by the dedicated efforts of 20 or so parents in a pair bond; thus being a poor strategy for the mother, and ul… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 03:32 PM |
| 5 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureAnd as I pointed out, there is no definitive evidence of a male gender script to provide for and protect women Wouldn't sayings like women and children first count as male gender script to protect and provide for women? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 01:41 PM |
| 13 | There is no biological imperative for white-knighting, it's the cultureMen are not disposable. People need to look at non-Eurasian cultures. What do you mean by this? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 22/05/22 01:33 PM |
| 8 | Johnny Depp wins women's abuse organization's support in Amber Heard trialYeah,this seems like it has more to do with virtual signaling and the founder's personal relationship with Johnny deep then actual support for Johnny deep and male victims in general from this organization.In the statement they made towards johnny deep they seemed to be supporting men who are victims, but on their website they only mention support for women and children.This does not seem genuine. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/05/22 09:06 AM |
| 2 | Most of the dating struggles of men will fall on death ears when it comes to women. Which is why the Redpill is important.Fucking hypocrites, take what you want and then when asked to return the favour, you play dumb and ask, but what have they even done anything for us? Women really have control over how to manipulate people, they were shit at fighting so they developed these skills I guess, moreover, nowhere in the post does OP say that it should fall upon women, you made that up. I agree with most of this.I actually wrote a post about the empathy gap so I know what you are talking about.Not only do they try to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 03:33 AM |
| 4 | Do you think women (in general) want men as much as men want women? Why?They don't,and the evolutionary reason for this is because women have higher minimum parental investment then men. So they are going to be more choosy when selecting a mate.This is why they have a lower sex drive than men , and why they don't fall in love as quick or easily as men.Women must have less desire for men to be more choosy. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/22 04:49 AM |
| 35 | About Patriarchy and OppressionThe reason why what their saying makes no sense is because we(the west) live in a gynocentric society not a patriarchy.Most, if not all of the claims made by feminist about discrimination against women have been debunked.The truth is that society prioritizes women's safety and wellbeing because people are psychologically hardwire to want to protect women over men,and feminist exploited this cognitive bias to benefit women at men's expense .Feminist have created the Duluth model, have tried to si… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/22 04:33 AM |
| 2 | Do you think women (in general) want men as much as men want women? Why?Not exactly, that would be the case if we were just a tournament mating species, but we are actually in between a tournament mating and pair-bonding species.Also, while having casual sex is a mating strategy that is beneficial to men,so is long-term relationships.Each strategy just provides different benefits.The benefit of casual sex for men is very low parental investment.The benefits of long-term relationships are getting a more attractive partner, and paternal certainty.So both mating strate… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/05/22 04:04 AM |
| 1 | In the wave of Roe vs. Wade stuff there is a post on twoxchromozones about getting mad at men that are allies but aren't doing enough for women's rights. Hypocrits much?Not only that, but also having all these issues blamed on you as if you have the power to pass laws and dictate social norms.They will blame men's issue on the patriarchy when really feminist have either played a major role or may even be solely responsible for men's issues.The Duluth model, Tender years doctrine, and Mary p koss downplaying female on male rape are a few examples.Feminist gaslight and try to silence men whenever they speak about men's issues.Also, I doubt they would apply the " … | /r/MensRights | 03/05/22 11:52 PM |
| 8 | they refuse to accept that amber heard was abusive af. I guarantee that every women that posts on the sub is super single and that's why they hate men so much 🤣I really like the idea that men generally receive more sympathy from people than women. In what world? In clown world, but reality is the opposite.Also, I have seen men and women passionately and confidently make false claims about unequal treatment of women, and talk about how women have it so hard and no one calls them out for fear of being labeled misogynist, and possibly even losing their job for going against the feminist narrative.The fact that people can say these things publicly without … | /r/AntiFeminists | 03/05/22 05:14 AM |
| 4 | Q4Bluepill: In your opinion why do you think more Women iniate divorce than men?There are multiple factors than can contribute to women divorcing more and this paper goes over them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 04:13 PM |
| 20 | Thoughts ?You’re one of the guys he’s talking about . Bringing up the violence in that way wouldn’t do anything because of the perception that women are weak and can’t do damage . You would need to get rid of that perception first . And why would bringing attention to the fact that women can abuse men as well,not help get rid of the perception of women being weak and unable to do harm, and what do you suggest we do instead? | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 07:50 PM |
| 30 | Thoughts ?I don't even understand the point he was trying to make.Even if his claim that the ideology of patriarchy is the root cause of the bias were true,wouldn't bringing attention to the fact that men are also victims and women are also perpetrators be a good way to combat that ideology?What is the problem with men claiming that they can be victims of domestic violence too? Also, with no evidence he is claiming patriarchy is to blame for male domestic violence victims not being taken seriously, while … | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | The support online for Depp is of a pretty scary sortI think your right.There are multiple factors that can make people more sympathetic towards a person, and we know from studies and real life events that being a man is not one of them.So his attractiveness must be at least part of the reason why he is getting this kind of support.It also might be because Amber heard has treated other people poorly and so she has more people that don't like her, while I don't think the same is true for Johnny Depp.He also has a mountain of evidence supporting his… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 13 | TwoXChromosomes continues to allow posts celebrating generalisations and resentment towards menNot only that, but they also think women were oppressed in the past as well, and they use the supposed historical oppression of women to justify their hatred towards men.When the truth is that alot of what their told is either a blatant lie, or feminist historical revisionism.There is plenty of evidence debunking the notion of historical female oppression. Centuries of Opression Universal Suffrage in the Uk-The Videos Coveture Women could and did own property and have rights throughout most of h… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 07:21 PM |
| 36 | TwoXChromosomes continues to allow posts celebrating generalisations and resentment towards menIt's amazing how delusional the women on those kinds of subreddits and some women on tiktok can be.They make such negative generalizations about men without substantial evidence, just feelings and anecdotes.Then they actually believe their right because there are a bunch of other women agreeing with their opinion. The idea that men don't like women and just want to control them is absurd.If that was the case why wouldn't we legalize rape and domestic abuse.If most men just wanted to control and … | /r/MensRights | 25/04/22 01:19 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?Finances could also play a role. Women rarely pull their weight financially in relationships and this would be even worse with a sick or disabled wife. Meanwhile a lot of men might have job benefits in the form of income replacement options (or a hefty life insurance policy), often because wives themselves push that sort of stuff on their husbands. So a disabled husband might still be useful to a lot of women for financial reasons, which would have nothing to do with love or dedication (for all … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 07:09 PM |
| 3 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?The only indicator that has ever gone the other way is dispensing pain medicine in hospitals. It's claimed that women are less likely to be given pain medicine or are given smaller doses. But when you compare it against pain charts, doctors do in fact give everyone the same doses, as is protocol. Women actually just complain more on average so men get more pain medicine for less complaining, which some research tries to spin as an "empathy gap" for women. The only problem is we don't give out pa… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 01:03 PM |
| 12 | What do you think of the book "Invisible women" by Caroline Criado Perez?I haven't read the book, but I did look at the comments on goodread, and from what I can tell it seems like the book is just feminist nonsense.Some commenters say that the authors bring up feminist myths that have been debunked already.like the wage gap, or the bias against women in medical research. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 18/04/22 11:18 AM |
| 12 | UK: Sexism row as men-only farmers’ group called Lads refuses to admit women because male agriculture workers need a safe space to discuss mental healthMale-only mental health and therapeutic spaces are essential. I knew one fellow who was in a predominately female "therapy" space and things he was sharing (his deepest more personal inner thoughts) were deemed inappropriate by some other (female) group members and he was dismissed from the group. Even you bringing up the fact that women don't respond well to men opening up and being vulnerable is something that alot of women will try to invalidate, or even insult you for.They don't even make an… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/22 10:23 PM |
| 3 | UK: Sexism row as men-only farmers’ group called Lads refuses to admit women because male agriculture workers need a safe space to discuss mental healthhttps://quillette.com/2019/03/11/science-denial-wont-end-sexism/ https://quillette.com/2019/03/29/denying-the-neuroscience-of-sex-differences/ | /r/MensRights | 17/04/22 09:17 PM |
| 2 | Men say “I love you” before women do: Robust across several countriesA key finding is that men and women fall in love and even think about telling their partners that they love them at about the same time in a relationship. So men do not fall in love faster. Instead what this study found is that men open up about their feelings before women do. This contradicts the notion that men bottle things up, as well as the notion that women are more emotional. Where does it say that men and women fall in love about the same time in the relationship? I don't see that in the… | /r/Male_Studies | 15/04/22 02:51 PM |
| 10 | The useless husband trope is older than I thought.The truth is, gender wars have probably existed as long as humans have. Call me an edgelord or pessimist if you must, but I think most humans regardless of gender are greedy and selfish. They will use whatever they possibly can to claim their group is better so they can jockey for social advantage. Gender just so happens to be a very easy thing to identify with because each of them make up 50% of every society I disagree that there is a gender war.There is just gynocentrism.If there was really a… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 15/04/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Are young men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating compared to older men?Not all, but most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Are young men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating compared to older men?As women became more independent the age of first marriage went up, and the fertility rate went down.This is because women are acting on their hypergamy when their young, so they take longer to settle down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | Are young men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating compared to older men?Women prioritize their career so they can act on their hypergamy.Women aren't really trying to settle down in their 20's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 06:48 PM |
| 3 | Are young men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating compared to older men?I’m not disagreeing with that. But I think it’s important to add that the women who are looking to build and grow with someone are mindful of these factors. Why expect all these things when you don’t even obtain them yourself? That’s the point of wanting to build with someone because through time, you’ll obtain these things together as a team. How many women do you realistically think are willing to do that when there more focused on their career and tend to settle down later on? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 12:19 PM |
| 2 | Are young men at a disadvantage when it comes to dating compared to older men?the average age gap in the US for couples is almost three years with the man being the oldest. relax.i don’t think young men are at a disadvantage at all other than for financial reasons. young men actually have perks such as being more physically attractive and stronger due to youth, and young men don’t have as much baggage as their older counterparts. younger men also have more potent, healthier sperm from a biological standpoint. for the women who want to grow and start a life with someone, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Almost all gender behavior differences boil down to socialized behaviors and different hormonal cocktails.Almost everything else is socialized but attributed to biology with no science to back it. And we can see that by looking at social mammals and their behavior. Women are not biologically wired to be attracted to providers, they were just forced to rely on men to provide until recently. In the animal kingdom females only choose to mate for resources under duress, when they have mate choice and resource abundance they choose the youngest and most genetically fit option, just like males. Cross-cult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/22 09:31 AM |
| 3 | HypoagencyThe idea that men have all the power, and that women have no influence or power in society stems from the notion we live in a society that cares more about men's needs and desires, and does not care about women's needs and desires. This is completely false, and is just projection.It's actually the other way around, and these men in positions of power are gynocentric. The fact that the women's march is so large, and is covered by the mainstream media vs what happens at the men's march should alre… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/22 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Asking for references to informationYou can also look at this website it has a bunch of articles that might be helpful. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/22 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Asking for references to informationI made a post about the gender empathy gap. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 01:59 PM |
| -3 | Many Men become disposableWhile I don't think that the biological argument should be used to rationalize male disposability, I do think it is a valid explanation for why males are treated as more disposable by society. The article you linked tries to debunk the idea that men are more disposable then women, but the arguments seem pretty weak. The inbreeding that will occur from such a scenario in successive generations that can result in genetic defects that kill out the host population anyway. This has been speculated to… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/22 01:21 AM |
| 1 | The notion of "unconditional love"Ah lack of commitment, now is there a study on which gender is more likely to forgive that? Because to me it seems like women will forgive infidelity, men will forgive a woman not working. Lack of commitment doesn't necessarily mean cheating.It could be anything that shows you are not making an effort to maintain the relationship.It's kind of vague.Also, there are studies on who is more likely to forgive cheating, but they seem mixed.I have seen studies that say men are more likely to forgive ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/22 02:30 PM |
| 15 | Tails women win, heads men lose. When women are found to bully, it's evidence of gender inequality. Whoever bullies more, it always comes back to men oppressing women.Women are more neurotic then men so maybe they just have a lower threshold for what types of behavior they would consider as bullying. Edit:The paper says this The types of bullying experienced by women and men differ slightly. For example, women were more likely than men to experience ‘withholding information that is vital for effective work performance’ (27% for women, 18% for men), ‘belittling or humiliating comments or conduct’ (33% for women and 26% for men) and ‘unjustified criticism or co… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/22 10:17 AM |
| 14 | "Male privilege" and "toxic masculinity" were identified as perpetuating negative stereotypes about men in a recent psychology textbook published by SpringerThe basic premise of toxic masculinity relies on there being aspects of masculinity that are problematic and need to change.And from a psychology standpoint, that is just not a healthy way to approach things. It's known as a "deficit approach" and it basically amounts to victim blaming. It also ignores the fact that society plays a huge role in upholding "toxic masculinity" which includes the very same people who complain about it.This is not really surprising considering the general tendency so… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 03/04/22 02:17 AM |
| 2 | The notion of "unconditional love"The most recent study on the subject, conducted by a team of researchers from Iowa State University and Purdue University, focused on how cancer, heart problems, lung disease, and stroke impacted 2,701 marriages. They found that stroke and heart problems increased women’s divorce risk more than cancer or lung disease. Not so for men. I saw that study, it was retracted at first due to a coding error, and in the corrected version the probability of divorce only increased by 1% for women with heart… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 06:42 AM |
| 3 | The notion of "unconditional love"Women are literally more likely to stay when their husbands are terminally ill than husbands do when their wives are terminally ill. This is an unsubstantiated claim.I explain this in my post. Men cheat more and infidelity is the leading cause of divorce. Women initiate 80% of divorces. Do you have source for infidelity being the leading cause of divorce? This source says that lack of commitment is the leading cause of divorce and I see multiple other sources saying the same thing. 27% of men ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 02:09 AM |
| 2 | The notion of "unconditional love"Which might be why women are less likely to leave their partners if they get very sick. That is an unsubstantiated claim.I explain why in my post | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/22 08:44 PM |
| 16 | why don't more women and feminists support men's rightsI always link this study whenever someone asks a question like this,because I thinks it's really the best answer to this type of question. The study shows that people view men as having more agency, and more readily typecast them as perpetrators.However, people viewing women as having more patiency and more readily typecast them as victims.This is why most women and feminist don't support men's rights. This bias makes it harder for them to view men as legitimate victims.Instead they often see me… | /r/MensRights | 31/03/22 06:58 AM |
| 4 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanYep, also the Who, and Un condemn all forms of fgm, but they don't really care about male genital mutilation.They also give bogus justifications for supporting mgm here is an article, and video explaining this.It's an absolutely ridiculous double standard. There is also double standards in the media attention to boko haram, the inquiry for missing and murder indigenous people, and food aid.There is a surprising amount of evidence that supports the empathy gap.As a matter of fact,there is even a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 10:31 AM |
| 4 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanAll the things you mentioned that effect women are either illegal, socially unacceptable, or both.Society has done everything practically possible to address women's issues.Are there still gonna be women who get sexually assaulted or abused?Yes, because unfortunately we live in the real world were bad people exist.It would be great if the murder rate and rape rate was zero,but that is a idealistic goal, not a realistic goal. On the other hand, there is plenty that can be done to address men's is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 06:06 PM |
| 0 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?We still don't know the degree The study says that gender differences in personality are larger in more gender equal countries so they do know the degree. and how much it is likely that cultures just tend to form in such a way that they eventually on average nurture people to be this way. When differences are consistent across cultures then the difference are either partially or entirely due to biology. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 04:22 PM |
| 0 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?But we can not know if different expression is a result of nature or nurture. Yeah we can, we can look at cross-cultural studies. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Most detractors of Feminism seem to push more traditional gender roles. Is this good a good thing or no?We should aknowledge that there are a biological and (less) psychological differences ON AVERAGE but that statistically Within-Group Variationd are superior than Between Group Variation expecially if you exclude pure psychical task . I think I have seen this arguement, and from what I understand it's seems like an invalid comparison.Usually when people says this they are comparing the average between two groups vs both ends of the spectrum of one group.That doesn't seem correct.For example, if y… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 28/03/22 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanYou're not wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 04:33 AM |
| 6 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are human100% agree, Op is acting like this is a mutual battle when In reality it's one-sided.Men do care about women's issues and are willing to listen and take steps to solve them, or greatly reduce there negative impact.The same can't be said the other way around.I wrote about this gender empathy gap in my post a while ago.Op is basically sugarcoating the truth by saying this is a mutual thing instead of telling it how it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 04:24 AM |
| 2 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityI think you're underestimating how much power women have.Women basically control the narrative when it comes to anything related to gender.I think this is mostly due to pro-female bias, and women being responsible for the majority of consumer purchasing decisions.When men try to talk about their issues a small number of people show up,and they get shutdown by feminist.On the other hand, thousands of people show up to the women's march ,and it gets mainstream media coverage.This demonstrates how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityIt’s isn’t women telling men to bully other men. A father who bullies his son isn’t doing it because random women tell him to. your missing the point.Female validation has the most influence over men's behavior.so the only way to stop "toxic masculinity" is to change female mate choice.These drug dealers with 10 baby mamas that you are talking about are rewarded with sex.Men have nothing comparable to offer to other men to motivate them to behave a certain way.That is the point I'm trying to mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityYeah, but why do you think that type of messaging is effective?It's because being an effeminate broke man who can't get laid is not attractive to women.That is why both men and women use a man's inability to get women as an insult, or they call you gay.My point is that it's all rooted in the desire for female validation.You can be a weak nerd and still make male friends,it's not hard to make friends.What most men want is to be attractive to women, even when men are jealous of other men it's beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 06:56 PM |
| 2 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityOn PPD we like to pretend that only women enforce TM (or at least only women deserve the blame for it). When you’re willing to hold your own accountable and prove you actually do give a shit about mens well being and not just hating women, we can talk. I would argue that women are the primary enforcers of toxic masculinity, because at the end of the day "toxic masculinity" exist because that is what women find attractive.Female mate choice has the biggest influence on men's behavior.Men strive f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 08:39 AM |
| 3 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityI'm not convinced that any of these arguments about toxic masculinity have anything to do with the well-being of men because if it was they would not use the term toxic masculinity. Agreed, the concept of "toxic masculinity" is just a way to downplay men's issues by saying the issues are just self inflicted, while not acknowledging the role that society plays in perpetuating "toxic masculinity".Here is a good video discussing the social pressure that men and boys have to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Do you believe Men and Woman experience causal sex differently from an emotional level?It's true that men generally speaking men can view casual sex as just a physical act while for women it is emotional.This is because men are highly aroused by sexual visual stimuli, while women typically need some emotional stimulation to be aroused enough to engage in casual sex.The exception to this is when a man is extremely physically attractive.These difference stem from the reproductive cost of men and women.Men have very low reproductive cost so having causal sex indiscriminately is actua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 02:24 AM |
| 2 | Study shows needy girlfriends really area turn-off, but the same can't be said for clingy boyfriendsMakes sense to me. Since the general rule of thumb is that provisioning usually occurs more in the direction of man to woman it could be argued that anxiety in women increases strain due to demanding more, while anxiety in men could result in them giving more. The cost of relationship anxiety would be different in those relationships where thats the norm. So for example, an anxious woman might expect a grand gesture on Valentine’s Day and if she doesn’t get it that would cause strain. Meanwhile … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/22 04:48 AM |
| 3 | Study shows needy girlfriends really area turn-off, but the same can't be said for clingy boyfriendsAlso, gender can act as a moderator for relationship perceptions, with attachment anxiety and avoidance in women being associated with less positive relationship beliefs and behaviors than that of their male counterparts (Campbell et al., 2010; Hadden, Smith, & Webster, 2014). This suggest that women who have attachment anxiety might act out negatively more then men who have attachment anxiety.If a woman with higher attachment anxiety is asking to checking their partners phone more, is starting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/22 04:43 AM |
| 15 | Toxic Masculinity FallacySo yes, there is Toxic Masculinity, but women are just as responsible for it as men are (arguably moreso in certain contexts), and feminists are utterly incapable of genuinely solving the problem since a lot of their activism literally reinforces Toxic Masculinity. I think that women are the primary reason for why "toxic masculinity" exist.I think female validation has a massive influence on the way men behave.Men don't compete for status and become less emotionally expressive then women for no … | /r/MensRights | 26/03/22 03:26 AM |
| 8 | Why are many women so self centered?These studies might help explain.It shows that people view men as having more agency and more readily typecast them as perpatrators, while people view women as having more patiency and more readily typecast them as victims.So when you are telling women about men's issue their reaction will mostly likely range from them not really taking it seriously to them getting mad at you.This is because they don't really see men as victims, or if they do they may not see male victimization as a big deal, an… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/22 11:46 AM |
| 22 | It is acceptable by society for a woman to say "I'm proud to be a woman!", but it is not particularly acceptable (or at best, favorable) for a man to say "I'm proud to be a man!"How are women a minority? | /r/MensRights | 20/03/22 07:59 AM |
| 3 | Dr Rick Bradford blog post where he makes some insightful points on why men don't speak up for men/the men's cause &, depressingly, how he believes this will lead to things getting worse. He explains why he believes male power is mainly a myth. "Men are bred to be gynocentric & women expect it"Women haven’t turned on us they have been turned on us by the Propagandist Elites of America. Sure, but I don't think the Propagandist would be so successful in turning women against us if the cognitive bias known as the empathy gap didn't already exist.It's makes me question if things would be much different if feminist propaganda never existed.What if modern technology, and female empowerment alone is enough for make women turn on us? | /r/MensRights | 17/03/22 09:45 AM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.I have seen it being argued both ways, but the point is simply that feminist claim to want equality, and then when unequal treatment happens their silent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/22 09:22 AM |
| 8 | Dr Rick Bradford blog post where he makes some insightful points on why men don't speak up for men/the men's cause &, depressingly, how he believes this will lead to things getting worse. He explains why he believes male power is mainly a myth. "Men are bred to be gynocentric & women expect it"There have been men who were able to control their wives by being the breadwinner and controlling finances. Can a dog do that? Do you actually eat the dead bird your dog brings home? He is speaking in general, and is talking about what is socially acceptable.He even said this in the article So, Kathy Gyngell should not be surprised that the dogs will not fight back. They just can’t. Oh, the odd one may do so. But such a dog proves thereby that he is a vicious beast who must be put down, and quic… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/22 08:18 AM |
| 34 | Dr Rick Bradford blog post where he makes some insightful points on why men don't speak up for men/the men's cause &, depressingly, how he believes this will lead to things getting worse. He explains why he believes male power is mainly a myth. "Men are bred to be gynocentric & women expect it"I agree that women have more power generally speaking, and I think this paper helps explain why.To keep things brief,the studies in the paper shows that people viewed men as having more agency and more readily typecast them as perpatrators, while women are viewed as having more patiency and are more readily typecasted as victims. This is why I think men's power comes from their agency.The leverage they have to get people to do what they want, or what services/goods they have to offer is what giv… | /r/MensRights | 17/03/22 06:18 AM |
| 11 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.This doesn't seem like a joke to me, or this. ASHLEY MCGUIRE: The push to expand the selective service strikes me as yet another manifestation of the belief that women are only equal with men if we do exactly as men do. You know that there are some women out there who talk about equality, and then want special treatment when equality doesn't benefit them, and to write it off as a joke is dishonest.I can give other examples of feminist claiming to want equality and then protesting against equal t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 09:26 AM |
| 18 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.Why do men keeping getting mad at women about the draft? Men made the draft. Blame men for men getting drafted This a strawman argument.Their not getting mad at women for the draft their upset about the hypocrisy of some women who claim they want equality with men, but become more traditional when equality doesn't favor them.If we stopped pushing the equality narrative, and stop demonizing men I don't think they would be complaining about this being unfair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 08:16 AM |
| 2 | The Ukraine situation shows how equality of the sexes is a facade and incapable of being upheld through harsh situations.The study they referenced in the article is a heavily flawed study with a small sample size, and someone already wrote an excellent critique of the study that shows why it shouldn't be considered valid. Edit It was one captain. One time. I'm not sure where you are getting that from, but even if you look at the actual study out of the small sample size of 16 shipwrecks where they could confirm whether or not the wcf order was given it was given 5 times, and even if it's not given that doesn't nec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 06:42 AM |
| 10 | Looking for honest discussion to understand this subI think it is the root cause.Men fight to gain and maintain status to get women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 08:33 PM |
| 12 | Looking for honest discussion to understand this subI'm always skeptical about reducing this subject about about preferences. Case in point, I do not feel I'm particularly well looking yet never had any sexual or love issues at all. Cross-cultural studies show that women prioritize good financial prospect when choosing a long-term mate.So there are mate preferences that are consistently found to be desirable in men and women. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 08:20 PM |
| 11 | Looking for honest discussion to understand this subI think this sheds some light into where I'm coming from. But in a nutshell: I understand your take and it's a fascinating subject. One that I suspect can lead us into how we, men, are the true executers of our own undoing. I think we might disagree on the root cause of precarious manhood.I don't believe that precarious manhood was created by men.I think precarious manhood was created by evolved mate preferences that come from the natural reproductive roles of men and women. What do you think? | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 07:53 PM |
| 16 | Looking for honest discussion to understand this subAs a caveat and context: I very rarely felt my masculinity has been challenged because I organically wielded a less problematic masculinity since childhood (never saw the point to have a destructive drive to compete; I never had a sense of entitlement for sex; always understood the need for openness and vulnerability; Always aware of the privilege of being a male in a very conservative society. Things like that). That is your personal experience, but I don't think that is what men generally expe… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/03/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | The right to not be okay. The right to a hug. The right to be the little spoon.Lmfao what. You talk about anecdotes and then produce no actual scientific evidence. Also- the notion that men being emotion makes them “weak” or “less attractive” is literally because of sexism towards women. Women are deemed overly emotional and thus weak- so when men show emotions, because of its connotation w women they are considered weak- weather that is expressly said or not. Men being emotional is a fucking TURN ON for me as a woman! And I don’t consider myself a feminist for a lot of re… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/22 01:16 AM |
| 7 | Entitlement/Expectation is what destroys the male desire to provideThe point of my comment was not to say whether or not it is good or bad that women are more financially independent.The point of my comment was to show that women being breadwinners doesn't change the fact they still prefer men who earn more then them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 05:59 AM |
| 7 | Entitlement/Expectation is what destroys the male desire to provideDouble the amount of women out earn their spouses in marriage than did in 1990ish. Male providership has been and continues to trend down. That's probably why marriage is declining, and why the probability of divorce goes up when the man's has less income or the women has more income Women earning more then their male partner does happen, but it is clearly not the ideal relationship,and women clearly still want men who make more then them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 02:59 AM |
| 3 | Entitlement/Expectation is what destroys the male desire to provideWhat I have seen mostly is an unfair division of labor in families. As those oldest women were expected to take on more and more in the paid economy, they received little or no additional help on the home front. It continued with relationships while I was a young adult and is only a bit better today Fathers do less housework/childcare because they work more hours. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/12/fathers-day-facts/ft_18-05-01_fathersday_time/ https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-myth-o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 02:41 AM |
| 5 | Which gender has it harder? Change my mind: It's harder to be a man than a womanThe empathy gap is the reason why I think men have it harder.Women and men both struggle, but men won't receive as much support when they struggle generally speaking. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/22 05:59 PM |
| 4 | Who designed the law requiring Men to fight in Ukraine while women were allowed to choose? And who is physically enforcing it? We need to talk more about how Men can stand up to Men that oppose Men's Rights.I think it's because men care too much about what women want and have a hard time saying no to them.Also, I think men know deep down that complaining abou their issues even if they are legitimate is unattractive to women.So they keep quiet to not be seen as unattractive to women. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/22 04:03 PM |
| 2 | Vice’s feminist propaganda, found on InstagramYeah, I think when they loosely throw around words like misogyny and oppression, it's an attempt to shame you and make you feel sympathy for them so they can keep getting their way, even if it comes at your expense. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/22 09:10 PM |
| 16 | Vice’s feminist propaganda, found on InstagramAt this point I'm getting sick and tired of men being told how they are supposed to treat women.It's already bad enough that women are not expected to do the same things listed above for men, but it's even worse that men are expected to do all those things on the list while also being told that they are oppressors who don't give a shit about women, and don't see them as human beings. It's absolutely nuts in my opinion.I think it pretty much a form of emotional abuse to ask someone for more under… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/22 01:54 PM |
| 36 | Tired of the double standards in regards to inappropriate touching and shamingNah,it's a double standard.People don't care as much about sexual harassment and assault against men. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666518220300061?via%3Dihub Results revealed that male victims of workplace sexual harassment were perceived less favorably than female victims were and were perceived as having suffered less than female victims did. Implications and recommendations for workplace policy and practice are discussed https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1355… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 09/03/22 12:22 PM |
| 1 | We should be pressing feminists on the male issues they claim to address.I worded that poorly.I was talking about the disadvantages men face not feminist. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/22 11:27 AM |
| 2 | We should be pressing feminists on the male issues they claim to address.Yes,I'm actually going to make a post addressing how feminist wrongfully put all the blame on men for all the disadvantages they deal with. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 09:51 PM |
| 2 | Is medical gaslighting real a predominantly female issue?Excellent comment! I remember seeing one study showing that men were actually less likely to receive analgesics, and I had a suspicion that feminist were cherry picking studies.You just confirmed my suspicion. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 08/03/22 04:57 PM |
| 1 | What are some good books to read regarding men and womens rights?You can read The empathy gap by William collins and The privileged sex by Martin Van Creveled.Also, if I'm been honest in western society the average woman has more power and privilege compared to the average man.I can't think of one way that a man can use the system or society to ruin a woman's life, but I can think of a few ways women can use it to ruin a man's life.False rape accusation, domestic abuse accusations, paternity fraud, and divorce.I don't think your girlfriend will every be able … | /r/MensRights | 08/03/22 07:51 AM |
| 2 | The right to not be okay. The right to a hug. The right to be the little spoon.It’s interesting that when presented with any type of statistic or evidence that generalizes men and paints them in a negative light (ie. more likely to commit sex crimes), the response here is ‘most men aren’t like that’ - which, naturally, is very true. Most men are not abusers, and I understand why any blanket statements that lump an entire gender into ‘more likely to do x shitty thing’ or have ‘x shitty trait’ is annoying and invalidates individuality in favour of ‘biology’ and hundred year … | /r/MensRights | 07/03/22 10:41 PM |
| 5 | The right to not be okay. The right to a hug. The right to be the little spoon.I guess I just find the cynicism in this thread discouraging, do you know what I mean? All any of us have to go on in discussions like this one are our own anecdotal evidence, and I understand that makes it difficult. Actually, there is lots evidence to support my position.The most direct evidence is The Gender empathy gap which is a very well documented bias that people have to show less empathy for men's issues then women's issue.Both men and women have this bias, and it's because people perce… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/22 08:57 PM |
| 20 | The right to not be okay. The right to a hug. The right to be the little spoon.If the average woman was really that reasonable and compassionate towards men they would be protesting against feminism because of how damaging it is to men and boys. I don't think the average woman really has much compassion for what men(besides family members) go through. We can both bring up anecdotes to support our positions,but I think my position is stronger because we already know that women are wired to look for a protector and provider so of course they are not going to care much about … | /r/MensRights | 07/03/22 02:10 PM |
| 7 | Is medical gaslighting real a predominantly female issue?I haven't come across one claim made by feminists that wasn't either misleading in some way or just a flat out lie.So I am always very skeptical of any claims that feminist make. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/03/22 02:38 AM |
| 12 | Is medical gaslighting real a predominantly female issue?It's not that women's issues are harder to diagnose it's that a lot of the diseases that are harder to diagnose are more common in women.Multiple sclerosis is an example.Ms is 2-3x more common in women.Also, no women are not underrepresented in medical research. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 07/03/22 02:07 AM |
| 22 | Is medical gaslighting real a predominantly female issue?I think it is true that women experience more medical gaslighting, but I don't think that it is due to discrimination against women,or the idea of hegemonic masculinity were medical care is designed for men like feminist would have you believe.I think it Is partially due to the fact that women tend to get medical care more often then men because men work more hours which is explained in this article , and also because diseases that are hard to diagnose are far more common in women then men.I thi… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 06/03/22 06:50 PM |
| 9 | A reminder to support women who stand with us.Do you have any evidence to say its most women? Both men and women care less about the safety and wellbeing of men. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0749597820303630 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4952565/ Also,women have an in group bias. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/343253834_The_Myth_of_Pervasive_Misogyny This is evidence to suggest that most women wouldn't really care about men's issues. The more direct evidence is mostly just the apathy toward… | /r/MensRights | 04/03/22 09:29 PM |
| 10 | It's never the right time.Suddenly people are all pragmatic about things and acknowledge how men are better suited for war, so this overt sexism suddenly becomes justifiable. Also, people will magically be willing to look at other factors besides discrimination to explain disparities that are not favorable to men. For example,you say to someone black people are being shot by the police at a higher rate then white people. Person:It's because of systemic racism in policing.Black people are being targeted by the police. The… | /r/MensRights | 02/03/22 02:01 PM |
| 36 | Man SLAMMED after saying it's 'unfair' men have to fight war in Ukraine while children women leaveI have seen videos and people in the comments bashing this guy for making a valid point. These are the two main arguments I see people make against what he said. Argument # 1 "You are wrong there are women fighting too" Yeah, but they are there voluntarily.This completely ignores the point he is making which is that men are being forced to stay in Ukraine.The fact that there is a small percentage of women who chose to stay there and fight doesn't change that. Argument # 2 "Feminist didn't start … | /r/MensRights | 28/02/22 09:22 PM |
| 6 | Men aren't allowed to say 'no' to sexAgreed,it's not really that men are being told they are supposed to want sex all the time.It's more about men being told they need to do whatever women tell them to do, because to society women's feeling and desires trump men's feeling and desires. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/22 05:10 AM |
| 3 | When women men suddenly decide men matter because they have a son.What I find more astonishing is how women can allow a horrible experience with 1 or even a few men to overwrite all of the experiences with good men that they've known throughout their lives. OK - yes, she was raped/abused, and that dude deserves to have his nuts cut off, but are you really going to take it out on every man? Exclude boys from educational opportunities? Brainwash kids into thinking that men are worthless? Blows my mind how people think. I have been trying to figure it out too,and… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/22 10:27 PM |
| 5 | (Unpopular opinion) Everyone needs to stop complaining about the inequality of the draft.I am not convinced that women or society in general will actually be concerned about men's issues unless there are apparent consequences for ignoring them.That's why simply spreading awareness about men's issue is an ineffective way to get anything changed. I think it would actually take something equivalent to men collectively deciding to withdraw from society to actually make a difference.Men can't continue to be chivalrous to women and continue to contribute to society and except things to ch… | /r/MensRights | 26/02/22 08:08 PM |
| 9 | (Unpopular opinion) Everyone needs to stop complaining about the inequality of the draft.I don't really think men would be complaining if there wasn't so much negativity and neglect towards men in today's society.Nowadays anything negative a small minority of men do is amplified and even used to generalize men, but anything good they do is downplayed. Men who are successful are seen as privileged patriarchal oppressor, while men who are at the bottom sacrificing and doing the dangerous jobs that keep society going are underappreciated. Men are willing to do so much to contribute to … | /r/MensRights | 26/02/22 07:41 PM |
| 53 | 'Women and children first' policy in place in Kyiv for trains leaving the city as Russian forces approachI have actually seen people trying to downplay the fact that men age 18-60 can't leave the country by saying that it's not the main issue,and that you shouldn't be using a war to talk about men's right issue, etc.I honestly find it ridiculous. I think we can all agree that the most important thing to worry about in an invasion is saving peoples lives.The fact that men are not being allowed to leave Ukraine should be the main thing that is talked about.Way more men are gonna end up losing their l… | /r/MensRights | 26/02/22 02:28 AM |
| 28 | The "no bitches" meme or the "never felt the touch of a woman?" meme show how sad society is.I think all of that is just a way of shaming men into putting up with unfair treatment, and conforming to traditional roles even when the marriage laws are shit.The amazing thing is that people who do this do actually recognize that men have feelings, and use shaming tactics to pressure them into changing instead of actually listening and trying to understand them.It shows that they don't give a shit about what men want or feel, unless there are apparent consequences for ignoring those wants and… | /r/MensRights | 25/02/22 03:19 PM |
| 24 | Women suffer the most in war, losing fathers, sons, and brothers...Yep,the cognitive bias that people have to view men as have more agency then they do is how people are able to justify ignoring all the struggles and issues that men deal with.Society shits on men, and then tells them they have privilege and don't face discrimination based on their gender.It's like men are being gaslighted on a societal level. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/22 01:38 AM |
| 5 | This lady: women dont have an equal opportunity to survive on the battle feild. Also this lady:I'm stronger and faster than every man in this room.And you wonder why male suicide rate is high? Agreed,I think male suicide rates are higher for multiple reasons that all stem from the gender empathy gap, and the higher burden of perform that men have to be attractive to the opposite sex. | /r/MensRights | 25/02/22 01:03 AM |
| 56 | Women suffer the most in war, losing fathers, sons, and brothers...This is so sad.Also this might be nitpicking,but I don't like the way the post is titled, because it makes it seem like the father had a choice to stay behind or not,when the reality is that he is being forced to stay behind.The titled should have been "A father who sent his family to a safe zone bid farewell to his little girl as he was forced to stay behind and fight".It should be made clear that men are being forced to stay behind. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/02/22 12:27 AM |
| 24 | Donbas men not allowed to evacuateAlso, I don't think there is strong evidence to suggest that things would be different if women were in charge.In the past Queens waged wars more then kings, and the empathy gap applies to both men and women.So it has nothing to do with patriarchy like feminist say.It's just that people in general naturally see men as more disposable. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/02/22 09:26 PM |
| 3 | "My daughter is an MRA, I had raised her on feminist values, I didn't even let her father corrupt her, why is she becoming anti feminist?"I don't think women not wanting to conform to traditional roles has much to do with feminism convincing them that it is oppressive.I think it mostly has to do with the other thing you mentioned,which is hypergamy.Now that women are financially independent from men on an individual level their free to exercise their hypergamy. There is a negative correlation between women's education, and the fertility rate, and this paper shows that there is a negative causal relationship between women's educati… | /r/MensRights | 24/02/22 03:54 PM |
| 2 | Drivers overtaking bicyclists: Objective data on the effects of riding position, helmet use, vehicle type and apparent genderOk,I just fixed it now. | /r/Male_Studies | 24/02/22 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Drivers overtaking bicyclists: Objective data on the effects of riding position, helmet use, vehicle type and apparent genderWhy can't we just admit that people are nicer to, and more considerate of women, and move on? There's a huge body of research confirming this already and this paper itself can easily be seen as adding to that research and providing additional evidence for it. It's because the empathy gap is a cognitive bias that people have that won't allow them to see things objectively.It's not due to ignorance,it's just that people don't really care because they struggle to view men as victims.It doesn't matt… | /r/Male_Studies | 23/02/22 09:54 PM |
| 4 | “women are usually the primary caretakers of children so of course they would get custody. also 91% of fathers don’t even file for custody of their kids and when they do they win shared custody 60% of the time”I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove?What is the point she is trying to make by linking this? | /r/MensRights | 21/02/22 11:24 PM |
| 7 | “women are usually the primary caretakers of children so of course they would get custody. also 91% of fathers don’t even file for custody of their kids and when they do they win shared custody 60% of the time”I agree with u/rahsoft I just wanted to add somethings. According to the report, a married father spends on average 6.5 hours a week taking part in primary child care activities with his children. The married mother spends on average 12.9 hours. Since two-income households are now the norm, not the exception, the above information indicates that not only are mothers working, but they are also doing twice as much child care as fathers. She leaves out the fact that fathers do more paid work Also, … | /r/MensRights | 21/02/22 11:08 PM |
| 15 | “women are usually the primary caretakers of children so of course they would get custody. also 91% of fathers don’t even file for custody of their kids and when they do they win shared custody 60% of the time”We can't really say if it is true or not if we don't have a source, but there was another similar claim made that was debunked. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/22 08:36 PM |
| 25 | Is it me or are men just more loving and romantic in general?Yes, men are more romantic, and it should not really be surprising if you think about the different reproductive roles and mating preferences in men and women.Here is an article on the gender difference in mate preferences. According to the study, men favor mates who are younger and physically attractive. Women seek older mates with good financial prospects, higher status and ambition The fact that men prioritize physical appearance vs women who prioritize ambition, status, and other qualities r… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/22 12:51 AM |
| 4 | Dominance and heterosexual attraction.I found a link to the full study, and in the study it says that dominance decreased general likability.So it seems like the answer to u/Oncefa2 question is yes. Manipulation of the level of dominance produced a constellation of personality attributions. In addition to its impact on variables related to sexual attraction, the level of dominance significantly influenced attributions concerning the target's likability, stability, promiscuity, competence, and social class. High dominance was found t… | /r/Male_Studies | 20/02/22 02:05 AM |
| 18 | Her body count is a strong predictor of infidelityWhy?This is actually a good post.You included lots of sources. | /r/MensRights | 19/02/22 10:58 PM |
| 30 | Her body count is a strong predictor of infidelityThis is interesting I think you should also post this on r/PurplePillDebate | /r/MensRights | 19/02/22 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Diving into the 2021 GSS data on the amount of sex people over the past year, women are reporting having less sex than men.I think we need to see more data.This studyfrom 2016-2018 showed that more women reported having sex.I wonder if there is a metanalysis on this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 07:16 PM |
| 4 | My critique of The Women and Business law 2021 report.I agree, even in countries like India there are laws that exclusively benefit women, or laws that can be misused to benefit women at men's expense.Rape laws only apply to women in india.There is also a dowry law that can be used against husbands.There is also a law that makes it illegal to insult women.Here is a story of a guy being affected by this law.They also have seats in parliament reserved for women. The media only talks about female struggles, and we don't really hear about male struggle… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/22 05:42 PM |
| 3 | My critique of The Women and Business law 2021 report.True, I should have worded that differently.I meant to say that they count that as a disadvantage for women. | /r/MensRights | 18/02/22 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Now I will address your point about women only having equality rights to men in 10 countries. The methodology they used to come to the conclusion that women only have equal rights to men in 10 countries seems questionable.The questions they ask are kind of vague,and I don't think a lot of them are actually true measures of gender equality.I will give an example. Look at equador for example. Under Parenthood, however, the lack of paid maternity leave of at least 14 weeks,government-administered m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?Men still get more money spent on research on them then women do. No they don't.Men get less sex-specific funding then women, don't have a national office for their health like women do for theirs, and have less attention given to their health in the literature.Here is the source Also, the measure they use to determine disease burden is flawed and has received lots of criticism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?The legal definitionof rape does not include being made to penetrate. “The penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.” Mary p Koss was an advisor for the cdc, us department of justice etc.So she played a big role in creating the definition of rape that excludes male victims of female perpatrators. If made to penetrate is not considered rape then it is not going to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 01:02 AM |
| 3 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?u/Kaisha001 already addressed the rape statistics so I won't really talk about that too much.The only thing that I will add is that a lot of non-governmental organization don't acknowledge male victims of sexual violence during wartime in their reports. So this goes to show how prevalent the erasure of male rape victims is.It also shows that the statistics of women being over 90% of rape victims is misleading. Now let me address your other points The claim that women are more likely to be victim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 10:46 PM |
| 3 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?Someone made a comprehensive post debunking this myth.Most of the claims that feminist make are false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 06:25 PM |
| 0 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?Why does that matter?They still provided evidence either way, and this is something that researchers typically do when they write a research paper.They used government data as evidence to back up their claim.Do you except them to conduct a study by themselves to collect data that already exists?That makes no sense.You're just nitpicking, and there is really no substance in any of your counterarguements. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 05:05 PM |
| 2 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?First one is Youtube video, not scientific source. Did you watch the video?She includes studies in the video. Second one argue have less attention given to their health but not that ''they have worse health outcomes'' like you claim. They literally make that claim in the beginning of the abstract, and the fact that you don't know that lets me know you didn't even read the paper. A health paradox exists in the United States. Men have worse health outcomes than women, but national offices exist fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 04:42 PM |
| 0 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?So then point out the flaws that invalidate the evidence I provided,and provide valid evidence that supports the claims you made.Just saying that you don't trust my sources is not an argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 01:26 PM |
| 1 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?I think you meant to reply to the person I replied to, but replied to me by accident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 11:16 AM |
| 3 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Kind of busy right now, but I will definitely reply to it sometime tomorrow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 03:05 AM |
| 6 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?She provides studies in the youtube video, I also linked studies for the other claims as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 01:21 AM |
| 19 | What right or privilege do men possess that women don’t in 2022?The wage gap has been debunked, Men have worse health outcomes then women, and less attention given to their health,and rape statistics often exclude male victims of female perpatrators and sexual violence against men in wartime does not receive as much recognition by Ngos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 12:47 AM |
| 1 | What would you change about female sexuality?Sexual disgust is repulsion towards sexual activity.Your level of sexual disgust has to do with how risky sex is, that is why women have higher levels of sexual disgust then men.This is something that is hardwired into women because biologically sex is more risky for them, however I think in modern society sex has become a lot less risky for women because we have condoms, birth control, std testing, cures for stds etc, but our biological programming has not caught up.This is why I would change t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/22 12:26 AM |
| 6 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Women, especially on reddit will never ever be able to even grasp this. Exactly, they always talk about how men should be vulnerable, and express their emotions even though that is not what their attracted to, and the fact that they just expect men to open up without considering why they don't open up even when men have already express why they don't open up,just shows that women don't really care about men's issues or how they feel.They just have expectations that men are supposed to meet, base… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 11:41 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Sure,it's more quantitative then qualitative, but if we are going to talk about men and women in general then we definitely need to look at quantitative data.I think include both is one way to help us get a better picture of what it going on,and I also think that if we look at enough quantitative data we can also get a better picture of what is going on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 11:23 PM |
| 3 | What would you change about female sexuality?I would make women visually aroused just like men, and reduce their level of sexual disgust to the same level as men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 10:28 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Lived experiences are just anecdotes though.If we're talking about men and women in general don't you think it would be better to look at data and statistics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 10:12 PM |
| 5 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?I never denied that men get shit on - we all do - that's not a good excuse to never open up ever or else these issues men face will never improve. It's not the same, and I already linked a bunch of sources in my previous reply to you showing that men's issues receive more condemnation and apathy then women's issues, but you still act like it is the same and that men just need to man up and speak up about their issues. What is ironic is that you talk about how men should speak up about their issu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Ok,so I think I can do that but let's first define a victim complex. In clinical psychology, a “victim complex” or “victim mentality” describes a personality trait of persons who believe they are constantly the victims of the harmful actions of others, even when made aware of evidence to the contrary. So if we can have a discussion were we provide evidence to prove whether or not an issue is gendered, and if there is a lack of attention and support given to one genders issues or the others this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 09:16 PM |
| 5 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Oh yes, I just found her comment now. Modern men need to man the fuck up and talk about their problems, but they don't and that's why suicide rates are so high for men. Keep stuffing your feelings and vulnerabilities down, bro, it's sure to work out in the end. That is a typical thing feminist do,talk down on men, but when men treat them the same way they act like a victim and claim it's misogyny. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?True, saying that might be hyperbolic, but a lot of women are misinformed and/or very biased if they actually think that men have it easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 08:08 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Ok, so your not even willing to have a genuine discussion about this.That just proves that your not actually willing to embrace the truth, and just want to sugarcoat things.If that is the case then I don't want to have a discussion either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Ok, so if you agree that society is more apathetic towards men's struggles would you not also agree that men have it worse on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 07:47 PM |
| 1 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?And this is what I'm talking about lol.You're trying to play the game of who has it worse when that's not going to get us any where. Yes, society tends to think men should suck it up. That does not mean that society isn't also hard on women. Acknowledging who has it worse is the first step to fixing unjust disparities.Also, saying who has it worse is not playing a game,it is embracing the truth without sugar coating anything.Saying that no one has it worse is just a way to appease people who don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Both men and women have issues, but people are far more apathetic towards men's issues.Which is the point that your refusing to acknowledge which literally proves what u/Kaisha001 is saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?In Saudi Arabia, women have it inherently worse than men. No doubts about that. I'm not even sure if this is true either.It might be true, but all we hear about is the struggles that women deal with in these third world countries so I don't think we can actually make a fair comparison.You should read this article I think you will be surprised with what males in Afghanistan have to deal with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 07:18 PM |
| 6 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?I literally just responded to someone saying women need to stop "acting like fragile babies" so it's not as big of a win as you think... Some guys on the internet saying this is not equivalent to level apathy or even condemnation that men's issues receive on a societal level. https://youtu.be/hx5x0Ztffm4 https://youtu.be/UJ4KSOX8fYs https://youtu.be/GO_X4DkwA_Q https://www.researchgate.net/publication/233717660_Thirty_Years_of_Denying_the_Evidence_on_Gender_Symmetry_in_Partner_Violence_Implicati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 06:49 PM |
| 7 | Have people here heard of Norah Vincent, the woman who went undercover as a man for more than a year and wrote a book about it?Doubt This survey shows that way more women think that men have is easier compared to men that think women have it easier.It's not a majority but it is large minority of women.So I think it is at least true to say that a lot of women think this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Why do red pillers want to date women when you guys hold such negative views on us?Wrong,Wrong, and Wrong | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 05:40 AM |
| 46 | I find it sad how emotional abuse towards men by women is normalisedYep, just another example of the empathy gap.I know it sucks to know that society doesn't care that much about male victims and men's issues, but I hope that it at least makes you not feel guilty about setting boundaries, and standing up for yourself when women abuse you or do something you don't like. I think as men were meant to feel guilty for saying no to women, having standards,and setting boundaries because society doesn't really care much about what we want or how we feel.That is why the … | /r/MensRights | 14/02/22 02:06 PM |
| 61 | "Since 2016, women’s satisfaction with the treatment of women has dropped 17 points to 44 percent" (for men the satisfaction fell by 5 points to 61 percent). This is never going to end, the war between the sexes is getting even fiercer!These 2017, and 2020 pewresearch surveys also show that a majority of women think that the US has not gone far enough in giving them equality with men, and only a small minority actually sees that things have gone too far in their favour. So I think it's fair to say that women in general don't really care about real gender equality, and are only concerned with women's issues. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/22 09:35 AM |
| 5 | The Feminist theory that the European witch hunts were caused by misogyny can't be true because in many places most convicted witches were men. It's no rocket science.I think Martin van creed Creveld debunks this in his book the privileged sex. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/22 04:14 PM |
| 12 | I found this on Quora. Can anybody here debunk this?Here is an article explaining why the Global Gender Gap report created by the World Economic Forum is flawed.In the report they only count areas were women are disadvantaged,and they use measures that can have disparities due to choice, and measures were women are behind, and they exclude measures were men are doing worse.All of this skews the ratings show that women are at a disadvantage. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/22 12:16 PM |
| 50 | Study that showed men leaving their sick wifes was flawed.I made a post about this not too long ago.Not only is one of studies flawed due to a coding error, neither of the studies even look at who initiates divorce,or the reasons for divorce.The studies just looks at the association between divorce and the onset illness in the husband, or wife.On top of all that the studies are cherry picked, because I found other studies showing the opposite some with much larger sample sizes.So yeah the narrative that men leave their sick wives more is bullshit, and … | /r/MensRights | 08/02/22 10:42 AM |
| 2 | In group biases and why its prevalence should scare youThat's true, the point I was trying to make is that the us actually favors women more, but the majority of women still thought that women do not have enough rights compared to men, and only a small minority saw things for what it is.Which supports the point you made in your post. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 10:05 PM |
| 6 | The notion that women are vastly more empathetic then men is just very wrongCouldn't find a link to pdf, but this is the book.Also,The empathy gap is another book you might be interested in. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 09:31 PM |
| 7 | The notion that women are vastly more empathetic then men is just very wrongI think the difference is due to the different reproductive roles of men and women.Men's reproductive role is to protect and provide.Women's reproductive role is to find a man who can provide protection and provision for her and her offspring.I think this makes it necessary for men to be more concerned with women's emotions and wellbeing, and makes it necessary for women to be less concerned with men's emotions and wellbeing. There is actually a study showing that women prefer men who are more s… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 07:41 PM |
| 2 | In group biases and why its prevalence should scare youThe op's post was about women not seeing things objectively when it comes to how their gender is treated in general, and in comparison to men.He gave examples like the wage gap, the 1 in 4 rape myth,and the supposed bias against women in medicine.So I think this survey is actually relevant to the op's post. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 01:40 PM |
| 3 | In group biases and why its prevalence should scare youI sincerely doubt that reddit can prove or disapprove anything, aside from the fact that American online communities are batshit insane. There is also this national representative survey on america's views on gender equality, and it show that the majority of women still think women need more rights.Only a small minority recognizes that the push for gender equality has actually gone too far. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 11:46 AM |
| 74 | The notion that women are vastly more empathetic then men is just very wrong'Women crave for being loved, not for loving. They scream at you for sympathy all day long, yet are incapable of giving any in return Honestly, I think this is true for a lot of women when their dealing with men.They expect men to care about their issues, but they do not care at all about men's issues.Heck, some of them will even try to invalidate or downplay men's issue, and they will still talk about how men are not doing enough for women, and how men need to protect women etc.It's amazing how… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 11:07 AM |
| 25 | (Serious) Why are so many men so misandrist? Why do men hate the idea of men’s rights and care more about the well being of women than of other men? I know men have an out group bias, but how pervasive said out group bias is never fails to astound me.Research Has shown that both men and women more readily typecast men as perpetrators and women as victims.This is the reason why men's issues are not as concerning to people as women's issues. Then I think there is also pressure for men to be stoic, and not talk about issues that affect their gender, because it would be seen as unattractive to women.Women do not like when men complain about issues that they face, even if the issues are legitimate. Women like stoic men because stoicism is a good … | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Feminism is just plain stupid but what does it say about men who bought into it for 150 yearsI think you really underestimate how much peoples emotions can control them.Alot of smart people do counterproductive things because it makes them feel good. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/22 12:28 AM |
| 2 | Feminism is just plain stupid but what does it say about men who bought into it for 150 yearsI disagree that simps are stupid, I think there just not able to control their emotions.There are people who are very intelligent who don't get far in life because they let their emotions control them.Then there are other people who are not as intelligent, but get further in life because there better at controlling their emotions and making good decisions in life. I think simps are just more emotional, and I think they just give in to that urge to be nice to beautiful women and protect and provi… | /r/MensRights | 06/02/22 09:49 PM |
| 4 | Feminism is just plain stupid but what does it say about men who bought into it for 150 yearsIt's not that women are smarter then men.It's just that men are more idealistic then women when it comes to mating,and because they are sympathetic to women's complaints and issues. It's just like how men think being a nice guy, and giving women whatever they want aka "happy wife happy life" will make women love and appreciate them.When in reality they will just see your kindness as weakness and will lose attraction to you or maybe even take advantage of you. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/22 09:23 PM |
| 1 | If men thought of and treated and women based on how women treat and think of men, what would men be changing, or what are men already doing appropriately?We can do out best to reduce their numbers. Sure, we won't be able to eradicate these things, but we can reduce the incidents of them. Sure, maybe there are some things that can be done that would lower the crime rate, which would also lower crime against women.However, I think the women that complain about this would not even be satisfied with anything more then 0.Even when it's rare for women to be killed by a stranger, and men get killed at higher rate it's blown out of proportion like women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 10:49 PM |
| 1 | If men thought of and treated and women based on how women treat and think of men, what would men be changing, or what are men already doing appropriately?I don't see how any of these things can be solved. safety, we wish there weren't men who harass, abuse, stalk, rape, beat or kill women There is always going to be a small minority of men who do those things, because there is always gonna be a small minority of psychopath who just lack empathy, and some of those people are gonna be men.Trying to create a society were there are no men who abuse women is a utopian fantasy.The most practical thing to do is to tell women to be careful and maybe even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | A member shared an r/Science post on a new study showing that feminist men suffer from impotency. r/Science took the trouble to provide a spastic explanation aimed at showing that it actually indicates something good, and anyhow is men's fault. Here is the probable explanation, from a neuroscientistHere is the thing, I don't think that women are saying these things or act this way because they have been socialized to by feminist,or at the very least I don't think socialization is the root cause.I think women are doing these things because in today's society there more independent from men, and have more options.So they feel more comfortable openly talking about how they view men in general.There are studies that show that women have higher levels of sexual disgust then men, and the biggest… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/22 10:21 PM |
| 15 | A member shared an r/Science post on a new study showing that feminist men suffer from impotency. r/Science took the trouble to provide a spastic explanation aimed at showing that it actually indicates something good, and anyhow is men's fault. Here is the probable explanation, from a neuroscientistWow, this was very interesting I never even thought of this.It's very true that male sexuality is demonized in today's society.This made me think of something.There were two studies done in 1978 and 1982 were average looking men and women asked opposite sex strangers if they wanted to have sex.The results showed that 0% of women agreed to have sex, while about 70% of men agreed to have sex.Then in 2015 there was a social experiment done were an attractive woman asked 100 guys for sex, but this t… | /r/MensRights | 04/02/22 07:16 PM |
| 4 | "When Times Are Good, the Gender Gap Grows." Article: "In their study involving 76 countries and 80,000 people, they found greater national wealth and gender equality are tied to bigger differences in preferences between men and women rather than to stronger similarities."I think using the BIGI is the most fair and objective way of measuring gender equality. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/02/22 03:20 PM |
| 11 | Most extreme example of male vs female privilegeThe fact the women get more sympathy then men by society for issues that affect them.This phenomenon is called the gender empathy gap.The user u/lightning_palm already posted studies showing this,so I'll just add some real world examples of this as well. Women and children given heated tents at calais, but not men Australia urged to put women and girls at centre of foreign policy Bias against men's issues within the United Nations and the World Health Organization Un neglects young men who were … | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/02/22 02:10 AM |
| 4 | This is the kind of things that many women think when they see men fighting for their lives.Someone actually made a post debunking the claim that women attempt suicide more. | /r/AntiFeminists | 04/02/22 01:32 AM |
| 2 | The legacy of India’s quest to sterilise millions of menI'm confused,the title of the articles makes it seem like men are the ones being target for sterilization, but when I read through it seems like India has made efforts to sterilize both men and women. They mention this here The mass sterilisation drive of 1976 was one of the most infamous incidents of the 21-month period known as the “Emergency,” which Prime Minister Indira Gandhi had declared the year prior, suspending the Indian constitution. Gandhi justified her decision to dissolve human rig… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 03:45 PM |
| 1 | Male RapeDo you have a link to the article? | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 12:54 PM |
| 4 | As a woman, I'm starting to hate women as a whole the way I felt hatred for men.Now I believe it's not specifically a mens or womens issue it's an everybody issue. Everybody has become so spiteful and hateful that they refuse to work together to solve these very real issues men and women face. People may not like what I have to say, but this is the raw truth with no sugar coating.The truth is that it is really women who are mostly apathetic towards men's issues, and some of them actively oppose men's issue.It's not a mutual problem were both men and women don't want to list… | /r/MensRights | 03/02/22 12:49 PM |
| 2 | Sex addict men may have elevated levels of the love hormoneFrom an evolutionary perspective the strategy for a man to pass on his genes is to have sex with as many women as he can. Women on the other hand have the incentive to find a man that will commit to her, help her through pregnancy and the child rearing years. I think this is a bit too simplified.Having casual sex with a lot of women is a good mating strategy for men, because men have very low reproductive cost compared to women, but being in a long-term monogamous relationship is also a good mat… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/22 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Most of women AND men’s issues are due to patriarchal cultureAlso,don't forget women's groups opposing shared parenting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 06:30 AM |
| 3 | Most of women AND men’s issues are due to patriarchal cultureIt was reauthorized recently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 06:28 AM |
| 2 | Peter Ryan: Rebutting 'Briffault's Law' nonsense re men's powerlessness & female omnipotencePaul makes a good point by saying that men do have the ability to be choosy because humans are a species were there is parental investment from the male as well, and he definitely debunked the idea that briffaults law applies to humans. However, I think it's pretty fair to say that women are the choosier sex.He even admits that we are in between a polygamous and monogamous species.I would also like to address what he said about sexual dimorphism here. If we compare the relatively low levels of s… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/22 03:49 AM |
| 20 | This Can’t Be Said EnoughIt seems like any reciprocation from a women is seen as a burden that is only placed on her, because we just ignore what men do for women.It's the same thing with unpaid labor.Yeah I guess women doing more "unpaid labor" is unfair when we ignore the fact that men do more paid labor which helps to cover living expenses. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 02:38 AM |
| 14 | This Can’t Be Said EnoughI honestly think that the sole,or at least primary reason why men don't express their emotions or complain about men's issues is because of the fear of being seen as unattractive to women.There is actually a study showing that women prefer more stoic men as long term partners. Also, when society is sex segregated men express themselves differently It could partially be due to the fact that there are just no women around to be physically affectionate with, and there just trying to get their need … | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 01/02/22 02:29 AM |
| 9 | "I'm totally for seeing evidence that I'm wrong"You can also add the White Feather Campaign to your list.There is also this survey showing that the majority of women think that women still don't have enough rights compared to men, and only a small minority think that the push for gender equality has gone too far.Basically, most women just don't care about men's issues.There has never really been a significant portion of women fighting for men's issues.They have the opportunity to do so right now, but they don't.On the other hand, male suffrag… | /r/AntiFeminists | 30/01/22 09:34 AM |
| 23 | Feminist logicThey wouldn't be able to learn fast enough to prevent the collapse of society. | /r/AntiFeminists | 30/01/22 07:52 AM |
| 16 | I hate being a Man in a Women's worldWhite men are definitely the most demonized in the us, but I think white men have an advantage compared to other races of men in sexual marketplace value.White men are seen as the most attractive race of men overall.If they go to countries outside the us,I think they have an advantage over other races of men when it comes to acceptance and overall attractiveness. | /r/MensRights | 29/01/22 12:22 AM |
| 4 | I don't understand this. Can someone explain it to me?Hm. I don't see how any of them are the fault of men by default, though. In the case of child custody, this is something that inherently benefits women. Women could fight against this but they don't. Not any that I've seen anyway. Yeah, when it comes to child custody issues the blame definitely can't be put on men alone.As a matter of fact If we're going to blame one sex women are probably more to blame then men.It was a woman who created the tender years doctrine, and women's groups like NOW ha… | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 06:07 PM |
| 92 | I don't understand this. Can someone explain it to me?It's the basically the concept of "benevolent sexism" were being chivalrous towards women and prioritizing their safety is consider sexism because you view them as the weaker sex. The confusing thing is that when women are treated the same way men are treated,it's viewed as hostile sexism. So apparently when women get what they want, which is preferential treatment,it is still considered sexism against women, and women are actually the most affected. /s | /r/MensRights | 26/01/22 01:38 PM |
| 5 | Is there any way to have a productive (or at least without personal attacks or severing otherwise healthy friendship) conversation when someone says "Men have it way easier than women" ??In my view men are discriminated against in society, whereas women might have things hard biologically on the other hand. I think women having it harder biologically is debatable.While it is true that women have to deal with periods, childbirth, and being physically weaker on average.I think men have more of a biological disadvantage when it comes to health.Men are more likely to be affected by X-linked recessive disorders because they only have one X chromosome, while women have two.There is al… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 25/01/22 03:01 AM |
| 30 | Weaponized incompetence and assumed superiorityI think these women are framing this phenomenon as something that is gendered, because they are only looking at how there affected, and not doing any self-reflection.I bet you these same women are guilty of doing similar things they complain about their boyfriends doing.It's kind like how feminist complain about how women do more "unpaid labor" while ignoring a lot of the forms of unpaid labor men do, and ignoring the fact that men do more paid labor which helps to cover living expenses. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 24/01/22 03:25 PM |
| 3 | Why are everyone's "solutions" for men just rebranded traditionalism?Yes, I agree, and I don't think they will realize it.I really do think that people's bias against seeing men as legitimate victims is so strong that most people will essentially be blind to men issues, and will only recognize men's issue if they are literally threatened with consequences for ignoring it.I think that is only way they will be able to the connection.the consequences of ignoring men's issues would have to be explicitly stated to them. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/22 04:37 PM |
| 5 | Why are everyone's "solutions" for men just rebranded traditionalism?Be that as it may, if that's the way men feel they're treated, I don't think anybody gets the right to whine and complain and be even remotely shocked when some of them go off the rails or try to actively opt out of some or all of society That's the thing though.People are still are going to complain, because there basically blind to the discrimination, and struggles that men face that make them that way.It's hard for people to see men as victim who are responding to being victimized.So anything… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 20/01/22 03:46 PM |
| 2 | Men should never completely open to women.There actually is a study showing that women prefer stoic men as long term partners.I think it makes sense from an evolutionary perspective that women would prefer stoic men, because those men would be seen as better providers and protectors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 04:45 AM |
| 4 | Men don’t need women, a discussion:In today's society women don't need men on an individual level.So they think they don't need men at all.Even though they still need men collectively, because men do the essential jobs that are needed to maintain society, and because they pay the vast majority of net taxes. So now that women don't need men individually,there is a loud minority of women who are expressing how they really feel about men, and even opposing men's rights.The vast of majority of women are pretty much apathetic towards … | /r/MensRights | 19/01/22 09:40 PM |
| 9 | "We explore gender differences in reported well-being around the world ... women have higher levels of well-being than men, with a few exceptions in low income countries"This doesn't surprise me.I wrote a post about the gender empathy gap a few days ago, and after gathering all that evidence,I came to the conclusion that men have it worse then women on average.Men and women both have issues, but men are less likely to garner sympathy from people to help with their issues, or have major organizations trying to address their issues. That is why I think that men have it worse on average.That's not to say that an individual woman can't have it worse than a man.I jus… | /r/MensRights | 16/01/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | "In women, we find no such effect."...Source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/22 04:55 AM |
| 17 | Boston University requires "students and faculty to affirm that people 'rarely' make false accusations." Choosing "sometimes" was *not* an acceptable answer. Teachers who don't get it "right" will not be eligible for a raise, students who don't will be blocked from registering for next semester.That's not my argument,my argument is that it can happen not that it necessarily will happen.I was addressing what you said here. I'm going to need a source. Universities DO the research. This is where it comes from. If they have access to some of the best minds, information, and money, why would the research be in anyway shoddy? Help me understand. Right here you seem to think that since the university has lots of resources and intelligent people means that the research would not be shoddy, but… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/22 02:14 AM |
| 19 | Boston University requires "students and faculty to affirm that people 'rarely' make false accusations." Choosing "sometimes" was *not* an acceptable answer. Teachers who don't get it "right" will not be eligible for a raise, students who don't will be blocked from registering for next semester.Do you not think that large organizations and authoritative figures don't use false or misleading information to push a narrative? One example is the Global Gender Gap Report. | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 13/01/22 01:38 AM |
| 3 | Why are women considered the sympathetic or compassionate sex?I gave you an example that was common at the time. The idea of romantic love didn't just suddenly appear after the feminist movement started. You only have to open your eyes and not take the feminist mantra as gospel You gave me an anecdote of a woman in a relationship.I'm talking about women being sympathetic towards men's issues on a societal scale.For example, male circumcision being legal, lack of resources for male domestic abuse victims etc.I need a source. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/22 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Why are women considered the sympathetic or compassionate sex?Moving the goal posts doesn't negate what I said. I didn't say women as a whole, I gave you an example of how one woman showed empathy for a man's issue... I.e. work hard and in a dangerous job. I didn't move the goal post I clarified what my argument was, and even in my first comment I said men and women, so I thought it was obvious that I was speaking in general. Now your statement that women have never had sympathy for the issues of Men is just a retelling of The same manipulation of history … | /r/MensRights | 12/01/22 10:08 AM |
| 3 | Why are women considered the sympathetic or compassionate sex?I'm talking about women having sympathy for men's issues on a societal level.There hasn't been a time were a significant portion of women supported fixing men's issues.Women have a more of a voice to talk about gender issues in society then men, but they don't use it to address men's issues. | /r/MensRights | 12/01/22 09:17 AM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI agree that it's not a perfect measure, but it isn't useless. Especially in the US, where we have a two-party system, saying that more women vote than men definitely does not equate to those voices being heard. Your only choices are "bad" and "less bad" - so on a given issue, if A wanted to strip your rights and B wanted to maintain the status quo, you'd reliably vote B. That doesn't mean you'll get what you want, you just won't lose what you have So wouldn't this apply to men as well? A better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 09:11 AM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realPolitics being dominated by men does not necessarily equate to women's voices not being heard in society.For example, in the us most politicians are men., but most voters are women.Also, women definitely have a voice in society.That's not even considering the fact that a lot of women's partners might agree with their political views, and vote the same way they would have voted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 04:56 AM |
| 2 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThe fact remains that women are instinctively, primally and sexually disgusted by men who they view or portray themselves as “victims” in any way shape or form. Regardless of what indignities a man has suffered, a woman will see the man as a “whiny baby” or often having “brought it on himself” I think this is true, it makes sense logically when you consider the fact that women are hardwired to look for a protector and provider, and there is actually a study showing that women prefer stoic men wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 03:50 AM |
| 9 | Why are women considered the sympathetic or compassionate sex?That being said, here's a huge caveat: Modern western women have been raised in such a way that they can't sympathize with masculine problems. What do you think happens when you raise boys and girls in a culture that says we're totally equal to one another? If boys are equal to girls, then their are no problems unique to boys, so if it's not a problem a western girl could expect to struggle with, she's going to be taught to ignore it or victim-blame When have women ever sympathized with masculin… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/22 01:16 AM |
| 1 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realWhat are you talking about?People in politics make up a small percentage of the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/22 12:14 AM |
| 0 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThose justifications for not including political representation or labor force participation are mad bullshit. If it was men living in countries dominated by female politicians the reactionary crowd on here would by crying bloody murder. The population may be small but they literally craft the laws people live by. They didn't include specific things that affect a small percentage of the male population too, so I don't really see why it's a problem.I think it's better to include measures that can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 11:48 PM |
| 3 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThe problem is, the men who complain no one cares about their issues are often the same men who derail, dilute, and outright reject women’s issues. Not saying this post (its v informative), but whenever I see men talk about male issues it almost always has a negative underlaying notion towards women. An example of this would be when women are discussing women sexual assualt issues, and men butt in to say nothing more than “MEN GET RAPED TOO?! WHAT ABOUT MEN?!” I don't see how that is derailing w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 11:23 PM |
| 0 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI did not go through all of your studies, but I looked at the Cambridge one, and the only study they cited talking about preparation showed that the perpatration rate of severe violence was the same for men and women, but the rate of injury was higher.Which makes sense when you consider that men are bigger and stronger then women on average, but the actual perpatration rates of severe violence was the same. The International Dating Violence Study3 found that among students at 31 universities wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:46 AM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realMost domestic violence is reciprocal and men on this subreddit love to throw that around. In most domestic violence situations, there is the abuser, or the one who initiates the violence. What happens in reciprocal situations is that actually, the victim engages in what's called Reactive Violence. It's when an abused person builds resentment/anger and starts to act out violently in retaliation. In layman's terms, it's when the victim lashes back out at their abuser. Statistics show that most abu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 11:44 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realOk,That just means that there were looking at those things to explain why male sexual victimization is mispercieved.When you said they used feminist analysis you made it sound like they were using some sort of method of data analysis created by feminists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 11:17 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realThis indicator cherrypicked data from the Global Gender Gap Report. They took two measures that tended to favor women - healthy life expectancy & educational level - and gave them two-thirds of the weight of their scale. The final third is the results of a scale of self-reported "life satisfaction" from Gallup, a deeply subjective method of gathering data that tends to slightly favor women over men. There measurements are based on what is required to live a long healthy and happy life.They expla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 09:04 PM |
| 5 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI already provide a source in my post that shows gender symmetry in domestic violence, but here is another paper That looks at over 300 scholarly sources. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:48 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realInteresting that the study you cited that highlights men as victims uses feminist analysis. Were does it say they used feminist analysis, and what is feminist analysis?They got their data from The CDC and Bureau of Justice statistics. What is the breakdown of male vs female perpetrators? I know the study was groundbreaking in that included inmates in prisons and jails. Who can be victimized by female guards but I’d be interested in numbers. It doesn't say how many female and male perpetrators th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:38 PM |
| 8 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realNot if they provide sources to backup what there saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:11 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realCutting of the clitoris means the same thing as removing it.You can't cut off the clitoris because most of it is internal.You can cut off the head of the clitoris at most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 07:03 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realTechnically you can't remove the clitoris without surgery, because most of the clitoris is internal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:36 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realCurrently but you guys are just beginning your crusade for your issues to be addressed, women got a ton of clapback in the beginning and it lessens a bit every year The men's rights movement has been around for a while.The national coalition for men was founded in 1977. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:21 PM |
| 9 | The Gender Empathy Gap is realWork smarter not harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 06:07 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realBecause sharing a link a to youtube video were someone explains something and provides studies is more convenient then having to get the studies and quote the relevant parts of the studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:50 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realHere is a march were thousands of people are marching for women's abortion rights and there are no counter protests.It seems clear to me which activism is more socially acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:28 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realBecause women fought for it, we formed organizations, created political movements etc. It's really abnormal for anyone to get any real attention if they don't ask for it or demand it. Women being able to garner enough sympathy to actual have their issues addressed just proves my point. These are some examples of what happens when men try to talk about their issues and do activism. https://youtu.be/jckfL4LdBtQ https://youtu.be/Eig0YxBP6aM https://youtu.be/yhzkxswZ8M4 https://youtu.be/UJ4KSOX8fYs … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:13 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI guess I could summarize it. -People have a bias that makes them more likely to see men as perpetrators, and women as victims.This is why the empathy gap exists. -As a result there are societal issues and struggles that are made to seem like they primarily or only affect women, when there not actually gendered. -Domestic violence is not a gendered problem. -Rape statistics tend to exclude male victims of female perpetrators. -Genital mutilation of males is seen as more acceptable for no justifi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 03:40 PM |
| – | The Gender Empathy Gap is realI don't see why a youtube video can't be a good source if the video is actually well done, and they use good sources, or make good critiques.User-generated content can be a good or bad source of information it just depends.I also did link sources as well.What do you have against using youtube videos? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 03:30 PM |
| 5 | Please talk more about the empathy gap!I get what your saying, and it is bias.I think I didn't really articulate the point im trying to make very well.What I'm really trying to say is that since it's two men there both judged similarly.Yes, male on male violence is not taken as seriously as female on male violence, but one difference is that if a man assaults another man that man can defend himself and he won't be condemned for it.The point I'm trying to make is that you have a greater ability to defend yourself physically, socially,… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/22 11:49 AM |
| 11 | Please talk more about the empathy gap!Yes, but the difference is that men don't have the same power to get other men in trouble, or even ruin their lives that women do.The reason why the empathy gap exist is because people find it easier to see women as victims and men as perpetrators.So if you have a situation with two men this bias doesn't apply and the situation will be judged more fairly.When you have a situation with a man and women people are probably gonna side with the woman more often. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/22 08:31 AM |
| 2 | Please talk more about the empathy gap!I think we should also talking about the reason why the empathy gap exist which is because people have a bias that makes them typecast men as perpetrators and women as victims.I'm trying to make a post on the Purple pill debate subreddit about the empathy gap. | /r/MensRights | 10/01/22 08:24 AM |
| 10 | If Young Women in the West had to live the life of Men, they would kill themselvesThat seems kind of odd because the findings haven't been replicated in more recent research. Suicide intent data from 5212 participants was included in the analysis. A significant association between suicide intent and gender was found, where 'Serious Suicide Attempts' (SSA) were rated significantly more frequently in males than females (p < .001). There was a statistically significant gender difference in intent and age groups (p < .001) and between countries (p < .001). Furthermore, within the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 07:56 AM |
| 0 | If Young Women in the West had to live the life of Men, they would kill themselvesFirst, you're citing a biased conservative site: https://ifstudies.org/about/our-mission If you've got institutional access to the original paper, here https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513821000222 it may be more useful, but as presented there's not enough to judge the modeling or the data sources. Here is a link to the full study.The chart they show in the article comes from the study. I mean, if you want to cherry-pick studies, https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:51 AM |
| 1 | If Young Women in the West had to live the life of Men, they would kill themselvesWomen aren't going to get far in life that way. People with skilled professions (whether requiring education, or just skilled trades) -- people in the process of getting through a quality education -- are not going to marry other people - of either sex - working a minimum wage job. People without skilled professions (whether they're educated ones, or in the trades) should either get educated, or trained in a skilled trade. The claim Op made was not about the caliber of men that women could date … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 03:48 AM |
| 7 | If Young Women in the West had to live the life of Men, they would kill themselvesOp I get what your trying to say, but I don't think you provided enough examples, and sources to really backup what your saying.I can help with that though, and I will make post about this tomorrow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 01:09 AM |
| 2 | 80% of men desire only the top 20% of women.No, this does not apply to men as well.Why do you think men are typically the ones who are romantically and sexually attracted to their friends, while women want to keep the friendship platonic?It's because women are more attractive to men in general then the other way around.Also, there is apparently a lack of economically attractive men for women to marry.I have never seen an article talking about a lack of physically attractive women for men to marry.Also, this social experiment shows that a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/22 10:48 PM |
| 9 | "Study shows differences between male and female surgeons: Canadian study finds fewer complications for female patients operated on by females". I've highlighted below some confounders which could bias the results along with a link to the full text.The study also shows that men had worse postoperative outcomes then women regardless of the sex of the surgeon(see table 2).I have a feeling that if the results were reversed people would focus on the fact that women have worse post operative outcomes then men, and that would be the headline of these articles. Also, like you already mentioned the study is not detailed enough for us to know why women have worse outcomes with male surgeons, and to be fair the study is only meant to look at outcome… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/22 09:10 AM |
| 10 | UN itself considers that equality is when women live five years longer than men ! They also say that positive discrimination is bad if it is to help men's healthI don't think the op would deny that there are biological, or biologically-driven reasons why women would live longer than men.I think what the op is upset about is the hypocrisy of the Un where they only care about "gender equality", (which to them means equality of outcome) when women are falling behind. | /r/MensRights | 06/01/22 11:21 AM |
| 3 | Men are 93% of prisoners and 97% of those executed globally. Should this be considered a men's rights issue?No one really wants to look into all these factors when it comes to men, either because it doesn't play into their narrative or just because they don't want to care about men. It's often just dismissed and downplayed "men are evil" or "men are inherently violent". Yes, I agree with this 100%.I made a post were I list of bunch of examples of the empathy gap.It's honestly no surprise to me that men commit more homicides and suicides then women, when you considered how neglected they are by society… | /r/MensRights | 05/01/22 08:49 AM |
| 26 | "Men did this to themselves"There is actually research showing that people more readily typecast men as perpetrators and women as victims.The idea that "men do this to themselves" is one way this bias manifests in real life.A specific example of this is the pervasive narrative that the reasons why men commit suicide at higher rates then women is simply because they choose more lethal methods, and because they don't seek help. This completely ignores the root cause of men committing suicide more then women.A major one is di… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 04/01/22 03:26 AM |
| 2 | This subreddit doesn't actually believe in "Watch what they do, not what they say". Otherwise, they'd be more honest about the OKcupid study.Do you have a link to the post with the initial claim, because from what I understand the initial claim is that women don't find men as physically attractive.we need to agree on what the initial claim was to have a conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 11:55 PM |
| 4 | This subreddit doesn't actually believe in "Watch what they do, not what they say". Otherwise, they'd be more honest about the OKcupid study.Also, we don't know the content of those messages either. It's possible that a large portion of those women are trying to get free food, or are trying to promote their onlyfans. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 03:57 PM |
| 16 | Why Do Women Cheat and Blame Men for Being Cheaters?I think this article is good overall,this is the only thing I want to critique though. This also puts the raw numbers in question. As we mentioned before, these studies are all self-reported. There’s really no other way to do it. Is it possible that women are less likely to admit infidelity to a researcher? After all, it’s more likely that a male cheater got caught and so has nothing to lose when answering the survey. Women may be more apprehensive about answering truthfully, because they’ve nev… | /r/MensRights | 02/01/22 11:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women don't desire sex nearly as much as menI am confident women enjoy sex as much as men, and I’d say more than men because they’re capable of multiple orgasms, so I’m sure they desire it. It seems like your talking about the ideal sexual experience, and not what typically happens.I would argue that in most cases women don't enjoy sex as much as men do.Women are less likely to have an orgasm, and are also less sexually satiated after an orgasm.Also,women regret sex more often and more intensely then men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/22 05:02 AM |
| 2 | As a society we need to stop saying that women have it harder or that men have it harder. Instead we need to acknowledge and accept that both men and women are facing real issues in societyMen have it harder because even though both sexes have issues,women's issues are being acknowledged and dealt with by the media, large organizations, and the government,while almost no one gives a shit about men's issues.I'll give a few examples. Double standards for male and female genital mutilation The Who and UN considers any form of female genital mutilation, even a nick to the clitoral hood, a human rights violation that needs to be stopped, but there fine with male circumcision. Less atte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Sex for womenI don't know why there are people disagreeing with you your absolutely right to say that men generally have a higher libido than women.It's has been shown in studies.Here is a research article on the difference in sex drive between men and women.I think that there are some people on this sub who are very ideological just like feminist, and are unwilling to accept facts if they feel like it opposes their ideology.I think you might be able to post this on r/UnpopularFacts if you include the study … | /r/MensRights | 30/12/21 09:47 AM |
| 3 | "Women are victims of the death penalty to a great extent even when it is mostly men who are tried, sentenced and executed. While men are in prison, it is left to women to hold the family together, to earn a living, perhaps for the first time, to support the children, to organise lawyers..."Yeah, women's tendency to advocate for women only corroborates the findings of studies showing that women have a strong in-group bias. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/21 12:54 AM |
| 38 | Dr. Phil tells abuse victim that he isn't allowed to defend himself from his abuser and the audience cheersI heard someone come up with the saying "A woman's feelings is more important than a man's life" | /r/MensRights | 28/12/21 09:21 PM |
| 8 | Another "men can walk freely at night" comment full of blatant lies.I bet you people who say that don't feel the same way about female genital mutilation which is primarily done by other women. | /r/MensRights | 28/12/21 03:15 AM |
| 5 | During great calamities, are men going to be prioritized like women and children?No, and we know this because it happened already. https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/iulu8l/the_un_is_responsible_for_hundreds_of_thousands/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.historic-uk.com/CultureUK/Women-Children-First/ https://medium.com/silk-stories/women-and-children-first-9273e97289b0 https://www.jstor.org/stable/3594843 https://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/mobile/we-re-taking-women-and-children-first-efforts-underway-to-evacuate-remote-communities-threatened-by-w… | /r/MensRights | 27/12/21 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Male sexuality it innocent.I think that women do become sexually aroused by looking at naked men, but it has to be a man they are attracted to, and it occurs to a limited degree. I think that they might enjoy looking at an attractive man shirtless, but the point I'm trying to make is that what women experience from viewing opposite sex sexual visual stimuli is not comparable to what men experience.I don't think that most women experience that appetitive lust that men experience when looking at images of random naked peopl… | /r/MensRights | 26/12/21 08:15 AM |
| 8 | Male sexuality it innocent.I can assure you that women like sex just as much as men do, if not more. The kinkiest people I've met were all women. It's just that knowing this doesn't mean you actually "have it ingrained in yourself", so it doesn't change the way you think and act Research shows that men are actually more kinky then women. | /r/MensRights | 25/12/21 06:42 PM |
| 7 | Male sexuality it innocent.I agree with you.I try not to initiate touch with women because I think it would make them feel very uncomfortable.For so long men have been told that their attention is unwanted, and that there creeps and perverts.So I totally understand why you are struggling with this.I even wonder if women genuinely enjoy having sex with men most of the time.I think that the vast majority of men are just not really sexually desirable to women the way women are to them.It is unfortunate, but that is just how … | /r/MensRights | 25/12/21 06:00 PM |
| -3 | Male sexuality it innocent.I think women can find men to be somewhat aesthetically pleasing, but if we're being real here women are definitely not sexually aroused by opposite sex nudity the way men are.I can provide evidence to back up what I'm saying if you disagree.However, I do disagree with the commenter when they said that men don't need or want emotional connection. | /r/MensRights | 25/12/21 05:26 PM |
| 3 | Female infidelity is worse than male infidelity.Women have a different kind of uncertainty... If a cheating man is diverting resources to an outside woman, such as paying a prostitute, that is fewer resources going to her and her offspring unknown to her. It's even more resources if the man has extramarital kids. The difference is you will know when a man is diverting resources to another woman, because he won't be able to provide as much for you and you're kids.I don't think a man who is cheating will spend enough money on other women to mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/21 01:28 AM |
| 12 | The idea that men are the oppressors and how it hurts men.Here is the thing,research shows that people have a bias that makes it easier for them to typecast women as victims, and men as perpetrators. Man up and take it: Gender bias in moral typecasting Study 1 participants assumed a harmed target was female (versus male), but especially when labeled ‘victim’. Study 2 participants perceived animated shapes perpetuating harm as male and victimized shapes as female. Study 3 participants assumed a female employee claiming harassment was more of a victim th… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 21/12/21 07:54 AM |
| 2 | My wife doesn’t believe that women aren’t held to the same level of accountability as men.Your joking right, the feminism subreddit literally bans people with opposing views.This subreddit is actually a much better place to ask this question because you can actually challenge peoples view, and refute their claims if they said something false, or something you don't agree with. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/21 03:13 AM |
| 24 | 1 Female Life > 10 Male Lives according to BBC NewsEyewitnesses and survivors said that soldiers, some as young as 17, rounded up villagers before separating the men and killing them. Wow, so you brought up an article that focused on men because they were covering an incident were there were only male victims, and you think that somehow disproves Op's point about the media being more concerned about female victims.It's clear to me that your the one trying to push a narrative here. | /r/MensRights | 21/12/21 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Do women even truly like sex?I think it's possible for women to enjoy sex, but it is much more difficult for men to actually please women sexually then the other way around.Women just aren't really designed to enjoy sex the way men are.Women are hardwired this way so that they can be more selective about who they choose to mate with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/21 09:22 AM |
| 5 | Love and Sex are seen as sacred rights for womenYes, the level of apathy that people have not just towards men, but even towards boys,is disturbing to me.Learning about the empathy gap is definitely something that can trigger red pill rage. The truth is that as men if we really want society and/or women to really care about our needs and desires we have to be in a position of power, or have some sort of leverage.What I noticed is that people don't really care about men's issues until their is negative consequences to society and/or women for … | /r/MensRights | 20/12/21 08:36 AM |
| 2 | "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure"Could you link the source? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/21 12:10 AM |
| 2 | A true feminist doesnt only also fight for men, but will fight to loose privilegesWhere?I don't see any comment were you named legitimate privileges men have over women.If you named multiple privileges you should at least be able to name one now. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/21 06:26 PM |
| 2 | A true feminist doesnt only also fight for men, but will fight to loose privilegesIf men do have privilege over women why can't you name one? | /r/MensRights | 19/12/21 05:55 PM |
| 23 | For too long, women and girls have had to put up with behaviours in public spaces that have made them feel uncomfortable, frightened or threatened.It seems like this person cares more about demonizing men then actually helping women.First off,it's a minority of men who do this to women, so making a campaign targeting male behaviour as if men in general behave like this is disingenuous.Second, the men who do actually behave like this don't care that what there doing is wrong.So the campaign is pointless.There is no practical way to actually get rid of people who commit sexual harassment and rapists.They will always exist. So if this guy rea… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/21 06:44 PM |
| 1 | "Its men doing that to other men" - Response to struggles men face, stumped me in a debate with friends and I regret not knowing what to sayCan you give some specific examples of what there talking about when they say it's men doing it to men. | /r/MensRights | 13/12/21 12:13 PM |
| 4 | Men have been sacrificing their lives to protect women for all of human history.The problem with women prioritizing higher education,and careers over relationships is that it caused the fertility rate to drop below replacement levels. There is nothing inherently wrong with women pursuing careers, but when they use there ability to acquire resources as a way to be independent, and disregard what men want from a partner, it causes the fertility rate to drop to a level that is unsustainable. Men and women need to work together to maintain society.However,It is women, not men, … | /r/MensRights | 13/12/21 08:46 AM |
| 3 | Men have been sacrificing their lives to protect women for all of human history.I don't really expect women to have the same level of sympathy for men's issues as men have for theirs.I think that is unrealistic because it goes against human nature,but I just wish women would stop viewing men as the opposition.People like to say their is a gender war, but I think that is a fallacy. Men have listened to and supported women in the past, and fast forward to today men still support women.The pew research survey shows that most people don't even think that the push to give women … | /r/MensRights | 12/12/21 11:11 PM |
| 4 | Men have been sacrificing their lives to protect women for all of human history.All seriousness, society couldn't give more of a shit about men as long as women are thriving I think you meant to say couldn't give less of a shit about men as long as women are thriving. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/21 11:06 PM |
| 7 | Men have been sacrificing their lives to protect women for all of human history.This paper your talking about is heavily flawed.Someone already made a post were they critique this paper, and show why it's just another case of feminists rigging a study to fit their narrative.Also,it's amazing how people love to try downplay the good things that men do, and exaggerate the bad things that men do. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/21 09:13 PM |
| 43 | Human Rights Commission - "Women, we need you. Men, stop being selfish"Wow, so they generalize men as being uncaring selfish monsters who harm women, and then they ask them to stand up for women.Stand up against who?According to them were all abusive assholes so by there logic there should be no one to oppose right?We are all on the same team.They also ignore male victims of domestic violence, and have the nerve to say that we are the uncaring ones. | /r/MensRights | 12/12/21 09:30 AM |
| 63 | The term "women are always right" "a man will never win in an argument against a woman even if he's right" just makes me sick!I don't think your overreacting, but I think your misinterpreting the intention behind saying that.That saying is not to say that men are intellectually inferior, and can't articulate their argument well enough to win an argument.It is also not saying that a woman's opinion is more important then facts.What it's saying is that men will not win an argument because the woman will not concede. Let me give an example to show you what I mean.Imagine you're try to argue with a feminist about whether o… | /r/MensRights | 09/12/21 01:00 AM |
| 7 | I saw this video on Instagram about hating "all men" and I scrolled down to the comments to find many people actually justifying this. Take a look.Women are highly apathetic towards men.Also, both men and women have a bias towards typecasting men as perpetrators..When I take these two things into consideration I can understand how it would be easy for women to unjustly hate men. If women don't care about men's problem and have a hard time seeing them as victims, and have a tendency to only see them as perpetrators,then all the bad things that men do will be exaggerated and generalized, while all the good stuff they do will be downplayed, a… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 10:30 PM |
| 5 | Aussie M/23 13 months prison sentence for defending home against intoxicated woman.Women are getting away with this shit because men are allowing it. 😒 We need to stand up, grow some balls and tell society to eat a dick when it comes to this shit. Yep, I agree 100%.I used to be upset at the fact that women in general would not speak up about men's issues, because they have such a big platform to speak about men's issues with the women's march, and have more of a voice when it comes to speaking about gender issues. But then I realized that you can't expect women to care about m… | /r/MensRights | 07/12/21 02:07 PM |
| 6 | As a Bisexual Guy I think that men are FAR easier to date than women BUT too many guys just don't "get it" so I see why Women tend to be pickyWhich source did you get that from? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Romance novels, including the romanticized abuse one, show the opposite of what the Manosphere claims. The male love interests are very attractive simps and beta males, not alpha males.No men can be wrong, what he is saying is that a lot of women don't listen to reason so there is no point in trying to have a logical argument with the goal of finding the objective truth.Alot of times when your talking to a woman and you point out fallacies in her argument, or provide evidence that invalidates her arguement, she won't tell you why your refutation is wrong.Instead she will just throw out insults, or use some logical fallacies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 06:00 PM |
| 13 | If average men have such a hard time getting in relationships, why do men cheat far more than women?It's one plausible explanation.The article you linked says that 20% of men cheat so it could very well be mostly top-tier men cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/21 03:39 AM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Women are so opressed, but have all these government programs and grants that are exclusive to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 09:31 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?And why do you expect empathy from the very same people men oppressed? Men oppressed women?This is a perfect example of the biased typecasting of men as perpatrators.Tell me how men oppressed women?I don't think an opressors would ever prioritize the lives of the oppressed in an emergency.I don't think an opressor would take on the more dirty and dangerous jobs to provide for the oppressed.So I would love to know how men oppressed women in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 09:04 PM |
| 1 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Figure what out?Why women contradict themselves?Why women see men as the bad guys even when there treated well and listened to? That's a tough one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 07:04 PM |
| 4 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?What these studies show is that relatively speaking women care less about men's suffering and harm done to men than men do about women's suffering and harm done to women and these studies also show that both men and women more readily typecast men as perpatrators, and women as victims.this shows that there is a lack of empathy towards men by both men and women.Also, apart from these studies it's obvious that men care more about the plight of women than women do about the plight of men because pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 05:05 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?What are you referring to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 04:45 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Multiple studies show that both men and women are more concerned about harm done to women. https://bpspsychub.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjop.12463 Both sexes reacted less positively to the male-favouring differences, judging the findings to be less important, less credible, and more offensive, harmful, and upsetting. Participants predicted that the average man and woman would react more positively to sex differences favouring their own sex. This was true of the average woman, alth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 02:47 AM |
| 2 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Well once they gave women voting rights and get them in the workforce the power imbalance shifts towards women,and I'm talking about what women in the present-day do with the power and influence that they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 12:52 AM |
| 4 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?Why do a lot of you act like women have no power or influence in society?Last time I checked women are the majority of voters, and have more of a voice to speak on gender issues than men.If anything it seems like women collectively have more influence than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/21 12:31 AM |
| 4 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?I love how you are just further proving my point about women's lack of empathy for men, even though it's already been proven with tons of studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 11:59 PM |
| 5 | WGTOW - why do some men resent this?MGTOW men usually feel “wronged” by women/society Rightfully so, men are treated like disposable tools in today's society.The marriage laws are garbage, men basically have no reproductive or parental rights, and hashtags meant to vilify men in general continue to trend on social media.Men helped women gain the rights that they wanted and give them equality with men when technology became advanced enough to make doing so possible. They let women vote, and gave them a platform to speak about their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 11:51 PM |
| 13 | I love the fact that not only is the newest hashtag on Twitter, MenAreGrossBecause, is not only trending in Men's mental health awareness month, but that a lot of people are only learning that it is our mental health awareness month BECAUSE of this hashtag. I'm just, so close to giving up completelyResearch has shown that people have a tendency to typecast men as perpetrators, and have a harder time seeing them as victims.So even when a man is victimized or vilified,in a lot cases people will not show compassion and may even see him as the one at fault.It's why men repress their emotions,their not shown a lot of compassion when they do really open up. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/21 06:23 AM |
| 8 | I love the fact that not only is the newest hashtag on Twitter, MenAreGrossBecause, is not only trending in Men's mental health awareness month, but that a lot of people are only learning that it is our mental health awareness month BECAUSE of this hashtag. I'm just, so close to giving up completelyCan you share that research with me? | /r/MensRights | 30/11/21 05:35 AM |
| 16 | I think the way women treat me is the way they actually feel about all men but just won't admit.One of the uncomfortable truths you learn as a man is that women generally will not have the same level of sympathy for your issues as you do for theirs.I made a post a while ago that has a bunch of studies showing that both men and women are more concerned about the suffering and victimization of women,and that people have a tendency to typecast women as victims and men as perpatrators.You can also see this play out in real life with examples like boko haram, and the exclusion of men from the i… | /r/MensRights | 29/11/21 03:10 AM |
| 2 | Looking for data that show that men do NOT earn more money than women who are in the same profession.An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women. | /r/MensRights | 28/11/21 06:39 PM |
| 154 | The Modern Feminist Movement Is Damaging My Husband. RANTI think feminism is damaging men in general.Men have always been given less sympathy than women for being victims or failures, but in the past they were at least shown more respect and gratitude for fulfilling their traditional roles.Now their slandered, portrayed negatively in the media, and told their not needed.So I think a lot of young men don't see the point in even trying so hard anymore. | /r/MensRights | 27/11/21 10:12 AM |
| 22 | If we switched the genders, there would be outcryPeople in the comment section seem to think that their is a similar level of apathy towards female genital mutilation.So I pointed out how that's not true in this comment and got downvoted. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/21 05:55 PM |
| 11 | My mother blatantly said "This is called karma for what men have done to women"In the past men created marriage laws were men are obligated to provide for their wife and be responsible for the crimes they commit.Men would get beaten at whipping post if they abused their wives.These don't sound like things an oppressor would do. | /r/MensRights | 26/11/21 03:51 AM |
| 3 | Women are not the enemyThe only thing they are responsible for is misguided frustration directed at men which is countered by our own misguided frustrations pointed at women causing “gender wars”. Fighting each other rather than working issues. No, the gender wars is not a mutual thing were both sides have misguided frustration and are not listening to each other.The truth is that men are the ones not being listened to.Men have listened to women.Men still continue to support women.Men in power have passed bills to pro… | /r/MensRights | 20/11/21 05:48 PM |
| 2 | A post from whereareallthegoodmen about the current state of men and womenYeah. I already know woman have that kind of bias or blind spot when it come to sympathy toward man. But I know the ones that actually care, so I hope to bring it out from others as well. Yeah, there are definitely women out there who have sympathy for men's problems and will change their stance about women being the uniquely oppressed gender when they are presented with evidence.Cassie jaye is one of them, but I think these women are in the minority.Another problem is that when these women do s… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/21 03:37 PM |
| 6 | A post from whereareallthegoodmen about the current state of men and womenI don't think she will show sympathy.While I don't completely agree with the OP's post, I can understand why he feels that way.Their is a serious lack of sympathy for men.Men are expected to fulfill their traditional role without getting the authority and respect that is supposed to come with a being a traditional man, instead they basically get treated like sperm donors and essentially have no reproductive or parental rights.Men can also get screwed over bad in divorce court.Men are expected to… | /r/MensRights | 18/11/21 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Why isn’t society empathetic to men who struggle?I think this video does the best job of explaining why people are less empathetic to men's struggles. People find it easier to view men as perpetrators and harder to view them as victims.So when a man is struggling people think it is his fault. People basically assume your struggling because of something your doing, and not because of an unfortunate event that happened that you had no control over. | /r/MensRights | 13/11/21 06:24 PM |
| 3 | When women on this sub say they are happy being single what exactly does that mean?Generally yes I think women have an easier time being single but men who have friends, hobbies and a life can be just as happy being single. I think it's way harder for men to be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 04:56 PM |
| 89 | Stay away from TikTok.Studies have proven over and over again that both men and women have more sympathy for women than men. This is just one of them:https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2411017 It's amazing how there are some women who believe that we live in a world were people care more about men than women when there is mountains of evidence that shows otherwise.I remember seeing a post that said something to the effect of, if men could give birth than there would be abortion clinics everywhere.Tha… | /r/MensRights | 10/11/21 03:56 AM |
| 1 | Do Men Appreciate Physical Differences in Women More Than Vice Versa?You can't say that men are less picky than women when the chemical behind the drive to seek out the opposite sex is 15-30x higher and the cost of pregnancy is unequal. Yes you can, men having a higher sex drive and lower reproductive cost is literally what makes them less picky.This is the equivalent of saying that you can't say that men are more stronger on average, because their bigger and more muscular. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/21 01:36 AM |
| 3 | Could society collapse because of picky women?The fertility rate in the us is already below replacement levels, and yes I do think society will collapse eventually.It could be because of another country with higher fertility rates conquering us,or maybe it could be due to a lack of productive men.I'm not quite sure, but I do think society will eventually collapse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 01:47 PM |
| 2 | Men leaving their sick spouse more is an unsubstantiated claimI think I'm gonna repost this on a different subreddit instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/21 12:48 AM |
| 1 | Men leaving their sick spouse more is an unsubstantiated claimI might do that.Im just curious, what are your thoughts on this post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.You didn't want data. You wanted to know who initiated. That piece from the Oncology Times is the only link I've seen where it's mentioned that the healthy spouses left the sick ones. I would need data to verify that for myself.A person simply making a claim is not evidence, and this is just an article about the study not the actual study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Do you have the actual study showing the data?when they described the methodology they never mentioned looking at who initiated divorce. Data were prospectively collected on 259 consecutive patients with gliomas referred to neuro-oncology services and analyzed to determine the frequency of formal separation or divorce. Additional evaluations included patient age, sex, tumor type and location, Karnofsky Performance Score, duration of marriage, family structure, education, and income. Also,this st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 02:41 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Do you have a link to that study? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | Men leaving their sick spouse more is an unsubstantiated claimI know, I resubmitted my post because I wanted to change the title. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Men leaving their sick spouse more is an unsubstantiated claimDo any of your studies account for infidelity when spouse is sick? No,they don't account for any relevant factors that should be accounted for to support the claim,which is the point I'm making.The claim is unsubstantiated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Men leaving their sick spouse more is an unsubstantiated claimIt's not the same I resubmitted it so I can change the title to something that accurately represents my argument so there is no confusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Looks like I'm gonna have to resubmit the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 05:34 AM |
| 0 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.No you don't. Also, the studies from outside the US don't cover anything specific either, but you inserted them, didn't you? Why? What do you mean they don't cover anything specific, and why does that matter.I am confused by what your saying. So is yours. You didn't take the route of “were don't know”. You used misdirection by adding in studies from other countries to act as evidence to the contrary. No, I made it clear from the beginning that I don't take these studies that just look at associa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/21 05:27 AM |
| – | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.It's exaggeration. What is exaggeration? 1% more women getting divorced is still more women getting divorced. I didn't say it wasn't still more. Most people would assume that the healthy partner left the cancer patient. Not only is there no data to refute that claim, there's also no data to prove otherwise. Data from other diseases would suggest that sick patients are divorced by their healthy spouses. Assumptions are not evidence, Also if you have multiple studies showing that in most cases it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 01:05 AM |
| – | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.What I'm trying to understand is how that invalidates my argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 10:48 PM |
| – | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.What is the cancer zone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Ok, and this study shows an association between disability and divorce for men, but not women. Thus, while disability increases divorce among males – particularly for young, educated,work-prevented males – there is no association between disability onset and divorce among females, regardless of age, education or disability severity. We can keep going back and forth with these studies, but there really not meaningful because they only show association and not causation, and they also don't say wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/21 01:23 AM |
| 0 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.The thing about that post is that it is also interpreting the results a certain way with no evidence. Why should that interpretation be believed any more than the interpretation that men leave sick wives because it puts a strain on their time and resources? Or the option to go for mutual divorce to save money? Yes, that is the point I'm trying to make, and I think that is also the point he tried to make in his post.The conclusion that the msm comes to is based on speculation.The point is that no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 04:57 PM |
| 3 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.The reason why I call it propaganda is because of the conclusion that there trying to draw from the results of the study.I think what there doing fits the definition of propaganda. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 05:03 AM |
| 2 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Ok,I still don't get what your disagreeing with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 04:28 AM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Oh I know,I actually touched on that a little bit in my post.However,the point I'm making is that these studies don't look into the reasons why divorce happens, and they don't account for many relevant factors that could be a reason for divorce.Like I said in the my first point the studies are not comprehensive enough to support the claims being made.Do you agree or disagree? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 03:59 AM |
| 6 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Yes, do you know what marital stability means?It means that they did not experience a divorce or seperation.Your quote literally supports what I'm saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 03:19 AM |
| 13 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Huh?This is literally the research article I linked in my post showing that men who suffer from traumatic brain injury have higher marriage instability than women.You got it wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 02:39 AM |
| 11 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Oh yeah I know.It's just like with other misleading/false claims like the wage gap, and the 1 in 5 rape myth.No matter how much evidence or logic you use to disprove these claims, you still won't be able to convince some people because they are ideologues.I already anticipated that there was gonna be women in the comments who just disagree with me, and don't even provide a counterargument. That's not who I made the post for.I made this post for rational open-minded people who may have had suspic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Can you give an example? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:58 AM |
| 3 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Can you elaborate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:27 AM |
| 6 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.This is the definition of propaganda. information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view. I think the what the msm is doing here fits the definition of propaganda. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 01:22 AM |
| 6 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.The studies seem legit, although it is interesting that 2 of the 3 with a “female leaves” result were both in Scandinavia. Maybe socialism causes female inconstancy? None of the studies prove that men or women abandoned their partner more due to illness.The only reason I linked those other studies showing the opposite results of the studies cited by the msm,was to show that even if I did accept their own bogus standard of evidence, they still would not be able to make the claim that this is a ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 11:09 PM |
| 25 | Debunking the narrative that men leave their sick spouse more than women.Yeah, they also say this in the study Though results from hypothesis tests do not allow us to say that that wife’s illness onset of any of the four serious disease examined is a stronger predictor of divorce than husband’s illness onset, our focus on illness and divorce in middle and older ages contributes to understanding the risk factors for divorce in later life, which constitute a growing share of all divorces (Brown and Lin 2012). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 10:05 PM |
| 3 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadIt's insult to injury that the standards they judge us on are far more strict and filter out more people but at the same time they bitch about how we are the shallow sex, that they face harder beauty standards and that their flaws like being fat should be celebrated and coddled despite weight being within their power to change meanwhile none of men's flaw are given that same treatment and the stuff they judge us on is usually stuff we can't fix with diet and exercise. Viewing men more negatively… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 09:30 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.First off, the studies you linked had a much smaller sample size then the 2015 study that was retracted.Second, you cannot look at the results of these studies and jump to the conclusion that more men left just because the divorce rate was higher.Third, I already linked multiple other studies with different findings.Those studies also had large sample sizes. Also, if you want another study.Here is a study showing that males who suffered from a traumatic brain injury were more likely to have an u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/21 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.I'm sure all of these women with cancer are calling up their divorce lawyers to initiate divorce. That seems far more likely than the probability that it's exactly what it looks like. It could be the case that the wife was the one who asked for a divorce, or they could have came to a mutual agreement to divorce for financial reasons, or other reasons.We don't know.It's all just speculation.So any conclusion you try to draw from the results of the studies you linked should not be taken seriously.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:43 PM |
| 2 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Which would still make the narrative bullshit.The fact that these findings couldn't not be replicated in other countries proves that divorcing your ill spouse is not a gendered thing. it's much more complex than that and there are multiple factors that can lead to divorce.The difference could be due to differences in culture, differences in the health care system, difference in marriage laws etc.I don't know. Also, the conclusion that these media outlets try to draw from the results of these stu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 07:51 AM |
| 1 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.Or perhaps the narrative that men leave their spouse more than women when they become ill is bullshit.The media pushes this narratives men are the main ones leaving their ill spouse by cherry pick studies.There are studies that show divorce is more likely when men become sick,but you never hear those studies being discussed in the media.Here are those studies. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326167159_The_long-term_impact_of_multiple_sclerosis_on_the_risk_of_divorce Results: Our final s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/21 05:47 AM |
| 5 | Husbands’ lack of full-time employment is associated with higher risk of divorce, but neither wives’ full-time employment nor wives’ share of household labor is associated with divorce risk.This study with a much larger sample size has different findings. There are several reasons why a malignant disease might be expected to affect the divorce rates, in either direction, but except for the testicular and cervical cancers, it seems that the divorce-reducing effects dominate or at least balance the opposite contributions, or that both types of effects are weak. With regards to mechanisms, all we can conclude from this study is that at least the potentially harmful effects through fer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 11:31 PM |
| 13 | Ingraham: Where have all the men gone?I 100% agree, and the fact that society does not acknowledge this as the reason why men don't want to conform to traditional roles anymore just shows that they view men as disposable tools.There wondering why these "tools"(men) are malfunctioning.The thing is, continuing to ignore this problem is not sustainable.It's eventually going to lead to society collapsing. | /r/MensRights | 30/10/21 07:16 PM |
| 9 | [RANT] I'm tired of men getting verbally abused by feminists online or in person; modern women don't realize how valuable men are to society.But to say the world can't run without men because men make the world go round is a narrow minded take. The fact that men fight the wars, work the dangerous jobs, make greater leaps in STEM fields isn't because women are incapable, it's because of how we're all conditioned by gender roles that were established centuries ago. 1.Women don't fight the wars because there less physically capable than men are. A Marine corps study found that mixed units performed worse than all male units.Also, we alr… | /r/MensRights | 30/10/21 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How would you feel if you saw your male love interest/boyfriend/husband cryingThat's true, that is why I prefer to look at studies.I can't really find one specifically on men crying, but this one might be relevant. https://www.ashdin.com/articles/female-choice-and-male-stoicism.pdf Participants viewed three sets of slides contrasting male facial symmetry, physique, and status with stoicism (defined as ignoring a health problem) and were asked to choose which male they preferred as a long-term or a short-term mate. Participants preferred stoic men who worked even though th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/21 03:25 PM |
| 62 | Example of discrimination towards men.Here are some sources you can look at. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2144002 https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/iulu8l/the_un_is_responsible_for_hundreds_of_thousands/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://people.com/food/australian-cafe-handsome-her-man-tax-closes/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jyc59j/5000_covid_relief_for_unemployed_women_only/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/glf… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/21 05:07 AM |
| 1 | What's you take on Alexander Grace's content and YouTube-Channel?Agreed, that is one thing I wish would change.They should have people on who are knowledgeable about the topics they discuss that disagree with their views.It would make the show a lot more entertaining. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 03:10 PM |
| 7 | What's you take on Alexander Grace's content and YouTube-Channel?Fresh and Fit is entertaining, but some of things they say I don't agree with.I think the show would be better if they had more people on that challenged their views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 03:02 PM |
| 0 | What's you take on Alexander Grace's content and YouTube-Channel?I like his content.He seems pretty objective and open-minded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | The men who want to have casual sex, and the men who shame women for having casual sex: are they usually the same men? If yes, how does it make sense to do both?Men not wanting to be with women who seem more likely to cheat is not them viewing her as a trophy.They just aren't attracted to promiscuous behavior.Your making it seem like men objectify their female partners because they have boundaries in a relationship.Men's love for their partners is based on them being loyal and feminine.These are just personality traits that men like.This take is about as accurate as me saying women view men as atm machines in their head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 09:35 PM |
| 0 | The men who want to have casual sex, and the men who shame women for having casual sex: are they usually the same men? If yes, how does it make sense to do both?Men’s adoration and love for a woman seems to be based on how much she can be perceived as a trophy in his mind. A trophy that other men also have doesn’t feel as special. There’s seemingly a disgust factor in-play as well. Their love for a woman is intrinsically tied to exclusivity to her sexual experience, specifically — wanting to own that part of her irrespective of when in her life he met her. No, this is just your interpretation of why men are turned off by promiscuous women.The real reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/21 02:15 PM |
| 3 | I think my eyes are being opened to the truth. So the other day i broke up with my girlfriend...Combine this with such perceptions (i.e. "women are mostly innocent" etc) caused by cultural conditioning, hard-wired in-born biases in men's brains and most women's neotenous appearances etc etc and you can see why as a group they outplay men so easily I think it also has to do with women just having a more pragmatic and cautious view of men when it comes to mate selection, because of their much greater minimum parental investment and shorter fertility window.I think because of this, women just… | /r/MensRights | 25/10/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Love between gendersYou said historically. Prior to the invention of birth control, if you had sex you most likely had a child. When did I say historically?In any case there are some couples in the present day that don't have kids. Women were the MAIN ones responsible for creating and maintaining female-only programs. I've volunteered in multiple such programs throughout the years and the ones pouring their time and effort into creating and maintaining these programs are always women. All the volunteers, directors,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/21 11:52 PM |
| 13 | are men less empathetic than women?This research paper reviewing the literature on sex differences in empathy shows that women scored higher on self-reported empathy,which is a subjective measure of empathy, but when they looked at objective measures of empathy(physiological responses, and reactions to someones emotional state)they found no sex difference. Reviews the literature on sex differences in empathy (defined as vicarious affective responding to the emotional state of another) and related capacities (affective role taking… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/21 04:05 AM |
| 1 | [RANT] Apparently being an absentee/deadbeat mother is acceptable now because you were "overwhelmed". Yet men get crucified for doing the EXACT same thing.Ok, I think people misunderstood than.I thought people would understand what I was trying to do there because of the context of the post, but I guess not.I'll change that. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/21 06:07 PM |
| 0 | [RANT] Apparently being an absentee/deadbeat mother is acceptable now because you were "overwhelmed". Yet men get crucified for doing the EXACT same thing.You misunderstood my comment.I'm not saying that men are actually less intelligent.i'm saying that men being less intelligent is the explanation people typically give even though it's not true.Read my entire my comment before you try to pick a fight.I.even saw in the beginning that men get shitted without their issues being taken into consideration. | /r/MensRights | 21/10/21 02:06 PM |
| -3 | [RANT] Apparently being an absentee/deadbeat mother is acceptable now because you were "overwhelmed". Yet men get crucified for doing the EXACT same thing.This is how it is in most cases.Men get shitted on by society, and their feelings or issues that their dealing with are not taken into consideration. Men become more withdrawn from society, and don't approach women as much.It's just because their man children who just want to play video games all day.Living in a gyno-centric society that doesn't care about them, and being told that their creeps, or perverts for approaching women has nothing to do with it. Men commit suicide.It's because they don… | /r/MensRights | 21/10/21 01:28 PM |
| 3 | why is mens rights/such groups always ridiculed and labelled and how do we stop it?The only thing you can do about it is inact consequences.People don't care about men's issues unless there are consequences. | /r/MensRights | 20/10/21 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?What my comment sounds like and what it means are two different things.There is nothing ambiguous about what I said here. That is not what I'm saying, and it pretty annoying that your misrepresenting my argument.What I'm saying is that saying men don't have any desire to protect or care of women is you demonizing men.Your essentially saying that the average man doesn't have basic human decency.I'm not saying that all men should be called chivalrous protectors. Also, I know you don't give shit, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?Edit: And yes that’s what you are saying. No, that is what is what I'm saying I made my point clear about 3 comments ago. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 05:55 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?It’s rather annoying that you want all men to have the credit of being some chivalrous protector of women for dialing 911 which any small child can do. That is not what I'm saying, and it pretty annoying that your misrepresenting my argument.What I'm saying is that saying men don't have any desire to protect or care of women is you demonizing men.Your essentially saying that the average man doesn't have basic human decency.I'm not saying that all men should be called chivalrous protectors. Edit:… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 05:41 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?Wouldn't calling 911 be an indication that someone has a desire to protect or care for another person.Even if that desire is not strong enough for them to put themselves at risk?My point is that you are essentially demonize men by saying this: I do not fool myself into thinking the average man have any desire to protect women or care for them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 05:08 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?Never said it was anything else. And I don’t understand why men would intervene on a strangers behalf? They have nothing to gain. It makes sense if they were protecting their own women like their wife or child. But a stranger? No. Let’s stop pretending that all of men operate with this moral code that they will give up their own life to protect random women on the subway. It’s ridiculous and untrue and we all know it. Feels like stolen valor to me to give them this reward when they haven’t earne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 04:47 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?I could easily argue your doing the same.You only provided one article to prove that most men wouldn't intervene.Also,what's funny is that this article you linked actually states that this more of an exception and not the rule. “When we have multiple people, people don’t necessarily intervene,” she said. “However, more recent research actually suggests that looking at video footage of more extreme circumstances that up to 90% of cases we do see people intervening. So it was actually somewhat of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 04:20 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?Women cheat too, and some women also do crappy things like commit paternity fraud, or keep a father from seeing his child, but in any case we are talking about the minority.In general though female suffering is more concerning to both men and women than male suffering.Women simply do not care about men as much as men care about women in general.Both men and women have a bias in favour of women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 02:25 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?I do not fool myself into thinking the average man have any desire to protect women or care for them. True, men have no interest whatsoever in protecting women. https://youtu.be/ujf7j4CXqQc https://news.yahoo.com/video-man-saves-woman-attack-203509710.html https://people.com/human-interest/man-saves-womans-life-collapses-in-texas-grocery-store/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cross-scott-tucson-saves-womans-life-using-cpr-training-he-learned-from-the-office/ https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/gad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 01:46 AM |
| – | Why do a lot of you talk badly about men, even though you have a loving boyfriend/husband at the moment?We have fathers, grandfathers, exes, and access to studies. What studies are you talking about? Men largely have no empathy for women, most of them really are pieces of shit who just view women as a maid and a hole, and a large minority are violent. We just point it out. Dating an exception does not change the rule Oh yeah,it's men who have less empathy for the opposite sex.That explains the results of these studies. https://web.archive.org/web/20190430000422/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 06:35 PM |
| 12 | If MGOTW was rebranded as 'Permanent Bachelors' would people still have the negative view of it?So, explain to me again how Feminists can he hateful dehumanizing fucks, yet get a total pass on it, while MGTOW does essentially the same thing, but doesn't have access to brainwashing little kids in school, yet people regularly come to shit on them? Because demonizing men is acceptable in society.It doesn't even matter if the demonization is based on a lie or based on misleading statistics.There are many lies and misrepresentations of the treatment of women in history, and there is also things… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 01:23 PM |
| 42 | Guardian article on female incels does exactly what you think it does.In the article they claim that male incels blame their problem on the opposite sex, while female incels blame their own ugliness.This is not entirely true, incels are very self-deprecating, and a lot of them call themselves subhumans, but people overlook them.What I noticed is that when men feel unattractive to the opposite sex their met with insults, and told that they need to improve themselves.However, when women feel like their unattractive to the opposite sex their is a whole body positivit… | /r/MensRights | 19/10/21 12:07 AM |
| 14 | Growing Number of Uneducated, "Lone, Broke" Men Deemed Threat to SocietyI actually lost all hope that there will ever be any interest in the plight of men. Society will collapse way before anyone dares to think about men. Just my 2 cents I totally agree.I have said this before, society does not care about men's issues unless it negatively impacts women, or society as a whole.I think the op's post is a great example of that.The only thing I'm wondering is what will men do to cope with this issue of loneliness.I think alot of men will probably turn to self-destructive… | /r/MensRights | 18/10/21 11:34 PM |
| 19 | Growing Number of Uneducated, "Lone, Broke" Men Deemed Threat to SocietyIn general it is. | /r/MensRights | 18/10/21 08:48 PM |
| 5 | the divorce rate is high for women but not for the reasons you all think.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28490820/ also hypergamy isn't common today anymore it used to be back decades ago so no, that's not the issue This study that you linked only looks at education, but income is also relevant.This study shows that even though women's tendency to marry up in education reversed, their tendency to marry up in income continued.The study also shows that women were more likely to marry up in income when they had equal or higher education than their husband. Between 1980 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/21 08:29 AM |
| 12 | Breaking up with my girlfriend tonight.And we have this cultural stereotype, that men happily sleep around. This is one of those stereotypes I really dislike.There are some people that really think men just care about sex, and don't have a genuine interest in long-term relationships.I find this stereotype sort of dehumanizing, because people are essentially say men don't fall in love.Were just sex crazed animals. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/21 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Men are generally more romantic than womenThere’s probably some truth to the saying “men are romantics pretending to be realists, women are realists pretending to be romantics.” And it’s probably a result of how we’ve evolved. Women have to be pragmatic due to the intense investment in child bearing and raising, but it’s our sensitivity and nurturing that attracts men to us LT. Men could in theory run around having sex with and falling in love with any woman who will have them but that isn’t practical for their investment of resources n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/21 07:42 AM |
| 1 | Men are generally more romantic than womenThe study they referenced in the article is worthless, because they count divorce as partner abandonment and don't even say who initiates the divorce.Also, they didn't even look in to the reason why there was more divorce when the wife is sick.They just speculate.So this is not evidence of more men than women not loving their spouses anymore when they get sick.Their is not enough information available to make that claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/21 06:04 AM |
| 1 | Men are generally more romantic than womenWomen totally have the trope of being clingy, way more than men. Frankly it always surprises me whenever I read about men being clingy. Maybe men just have more tolerance for clingy women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/21 03:50 AM |
| 2 | Men are generally more romantic than womenFinally, someone with studies.I wish this sub was more evidence-based. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/21 12:33 AM |
| 4 | An excellent comment on sex dolls that explores the negative stigma around male sex toys and male sexuality in generalHonestly, I don't blame you.What I've come to realize is that society does not give a damn about male suffering unless it has a negative impact on women, or society as whole.This has been demonstrated multiple times with things like boko haram, The un neglecting starving men,Ignoring missing indigenous men and more.This is something that I have accepted. However,what annoys me is that people have this apathy towards men's issue, but still expect men to care about their issues or serve them.There… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/21 09:31 PM |
| 6 | An excellent comment on sex dolls that explores the negative stigma around male sex toys and male sexuality in generalI've just been told no so many times that I don't see the point into putting any effort into it anymore. What's the definition of madness again? That's right: doing something over and over again and expecting different results. If you know the result ahead of time, why waste time, effort, risk the negative feelings associated with rejection, risk being though of as a creep, etc. I think this is the case for most men who don't approach women.They probably have been rejected so many times that the… | /r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates | 14/10/21 06:39 PM |
| 923 | If women do porn voluntarily, how is it degrading them?Someone in the red pill community said this once.Whatever men are attracted to is considered degrading, whatever men are not attracted to is considered empowering.So for example, sexy half naked women are being degraded, but morbidly obese half naked women are empowered. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 04:01 PM |
| 1 | Re: TwoX post on "Women and children first!" in maritime disasters.This doesn't surprise me.Feminist will put a lot of effort into downplay men's chivalry and demonizing men,because their ideology is based on men being evil patriarchal opressors. | /r/MensRights | 12/10/21 01:40 PM |
| 124 | women disrespect men quite a lot more than you think.Yep,men are told to respect women and care about their feelings, but women are not told to do the same for men. | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 10:14 PM |
| 26 | I am so done.I got a reply saying that men need to stand up for themselves instead of asking women to stand up for us. You know what we get told when we stand up for ourselves? That we're monsters. I was TRYING to stand up for myself. I was ASKING for help and advise. This is why I think that men should not try to fight for their issues to be recognized the same way women do.Doing marches, and protests is an effective way for women to bring attention to issues they deal with, and maybe even get those issues … | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 06:58 AM |
| 1 | Dating from the average straight man’s perspective.This seems like circular reasoning, which is a logical fallacy. "Human nature can't be cultural because it's biologically determined." You're simultaneously assuming and concluding that human nature is biologically determined sans scientifically reliable evidence. It's not circular reasoning, because I'm not assuming what the definition is.This is the definition of human nature. Your overall argument—that heterosexual men are the ones who have to "prove themselves" to women because of considerat… | /r/MensRights | 11/10/21 05:54 AM |
| 3 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.Ok, I understand now.What your saying is that having a happy marriage does not mean that the man is not a betabux.So the OP claiming that the findings of the studies contradicts what blackpillers say is not true.Now that I understand, I actually agree with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.Ok, so maybe can provide some clarification.In your original comment you said this. Women who are in love and happy with their husbands paradoxically fuck them less: When you say "fuck them less" what were you comparing these women to?I would think that your comparing them to women in unsatisfactory relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 11:22 PM |
| 5 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.Your study just shows that women's sexual desire decreases overtime even when their satisfied with their marriage.There is no comparison of sexual desire of women in unsatisfactory relationships so the claim that you made in your original post has not been substantiated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 11:05 PM |
| 10 | Couples are happier when the woman is the more attractive of the pair.This is not surprising to me, we know from multiple cross -cultural studies on sex differences in mate preferences that men prefer young attractive mates more than women, and women prefer mates with financial prospects more than men.I also found this paper that references studies with same results as your studies. Husbands report being more satisfied with their relationship when partnered with an attractive, youthful mate. Few men marry a woman who is older than they (Buss, 1989). Wives who are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 07:55 PM |
| 6 | There is little difference in libido levels between me and women, the mistake men make is project their own sexual arousal process to womenTrue, this is why certain discussion of topics in this sub continue to go on and on forever, because most people on here don't argue using evidence and logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 05:56 PM |
| 6 | There is little difference in libido levels between me and women, the mistake men make is project their own sexual arousal process to womenHow come OP not included any scientific data to back up his claims and no one calls him out? This sub is a joke Thank you, this sub is full of personal anecdotes, and feelings.We already have studies showing that men do have stronger sex drives. http://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71520.pdf Across many different studies and measures, men have been shown to have more frequent and more intense sexual desires than women, as reflected in spontaneous thoughts about sex, frequency and variety of sexual … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/21 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Dating from the average straight man’s perspective.Did you read my comment? It's scientifically baseless. Human nature is thoroughly cultural, not biologically determined. Human nature by definition can't be cultural. First, this profoundly ignorant, thoroughly ethnocentric and ahistorical (read: unscientific) statement assumes not only that psychosexual traits including heterosexuality are biologically determined, but also that monogamy is likewise genetic. I elaborate in detail why the first claim is false here: When did I ever say anything ab… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 07:15 AM |
| 4 | Dating from the average straight man’s perspective.The top-level commenter is specifically talking about men typically being the ones who have to prove themselves to the opposite sex.I don't see how it's false to claim that this due to human nature. There are reasons why men are the usually the ones who have to prove themselves to women to get their love.It's because men have the ability to assess a woman's potential value as a long-term partner from just looking at their physical appearance, while women need to get to know more about a man to a… | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 04:23 AM |
| 3 | Dating from the average straight man’s perspective.Sure, but I think that is only true when your talking about the top percentile of men.Alot of men who are older will still be undesirable to women. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 03:11 AM |
| 7 | Dating from the average straight man’s perspective.That is easier said than done though.Men have a strong urge to have sexual and romantic relationships with women. | /r/MensRights | 10/10/21 03:06 AM |
| 2 | Do you think the Red Pill is unhealthy and if so to what degree?OP was talking about causal sex, but even when we're talking about marriages we are also seeing women raise their standards for marriage as well. Look at this article.Women standards are increasing because there not dependent on men anymore. | /r/MensRights | 09/10/21 05:23 PM |
| 1 | What are some examples of women saying stupid stuff about men?This is the only definition by which I believe the sexual objectification of women, specifically, is wrong. The definition I'm talking about is 1a.My point is that when you hear people say "Men see women as sex objects", in many cases it used to say that men dehumanize women, and only see them as an object for their sexual pleasure.I don't agree with that.If that was the case then most men would not see rape as unacceptable. The media does present female sexuality as more deserving of attention … | /r/MensRights | 09/10/21 05:03 AM |
| 1 | What are some examples of women saying stupid stuff about men?However, if you look at the simple meaning of the words- an object just means "a person or thing to which an action is directed". If you are directing sex toward an object, that object really should be an adult human being. Trying to vilify that behavior is perverse and bizarre. That is true, but there is more than one meaning of the word object. I agree that shaming men for having sexual interest in women is ridiculous, but the phrase is commonly used to mean that men literally view women as ob… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/21 01:12 AM |
| 1 | What are some examples of women saying stupid stuff about men?I don't agree with your usage of the term sex object.I don't agree with the idea that we should view people as sex object, because viewing someone as a sex object means that you just see them as tool for your sexual gratification.That is not just me saying that either, this is how I see it defined, and this is the most common way I see it being used. The phrase is used in a very negative way.It is essentially used to demonize male sexuality.What their saying is that men just view women as object… | /r/MensRights | 08/10/21 06:54 PM |
| 20 | What are some examples of women saying stupid stuff about men?"Men view women as sex objects" If men truly viewed women as sex objects then what we call rape now would be legal and socially acceptable when done to women, because you can't rape an object. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Most men don’t actually find most women attractive, we just have a lower standard for casual sex partners than women do.is think this is what your talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 08:01 PM |
| 4 | Most men don’t actually find most women attractive, we just have a lower standard for casual sex partners than women do.I agree, men's standards for women who they would have long-term relationships with are lower than women's standard. This is why you see articles like this, talking about how there is not enough economically attractive men for women to marry, but I have never seen an article complaining about a lack of physically attractive women for men to marry.Men also just have more diversity in who they find attractive.You have men who like bbw, small tits, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/21 06:17 PM |
| 5 | Male Dominated Societies are a SCAMWomen have the opportunity to do all of those things as well, but that doesn't mean their gonna have the same outcomes.Sex differences between men and women are probably the reason why you see these disparities.There are many factors that can contribute to this disparity, differences in job preferences in men and women, men being more competitive, and more willing to take risks, men being overepresented in the number of high iq people, women working less hours, and taking time off to raise kids,… | /r/MensRights | 07/10/21 01:46 PM |
| 12 | Is there anyway we could just focus on issues and not say anything about feminism?Feminism is the thing most dirrecly responsible for or preventing from tackling men's rights issues. Exactly, there is no way to effectively promote men's rights without addressing feminism.Feminist downplay men's issues or put the blame on men which is a huge part of the reasons people don't acknowledge men's issues.If you don't tackle that problem first,it's pointless to even talk about men's rights to the public. | /r/MensRights | 07/10/21 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Women hate men who passionately love them or have a crush on themWell here is a study. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/21 07:05 PM |
| 7 | Why has the amount of sexless men 18-30 increased more than the amount of sexless women 18-30?This is not about blaming women, I don't blame women for being more picky about casual sex.They have much higher minimum parental investment than men so that makes sense.This is about being realistic.I don't agree with the blue pill narrative that people can achieve whatever they want if they try hard enough.That is not true, the truth is that individuals are not equal, and not everyone will be capable of achieving what they want to in life.Some people are smarter than others, stronger than othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 12:57 AM |
| 9 | Why has the amount of sexless men 18-30 increased more than the amount of sexless women 18-30?Because men are lazier and more feminine minded than ever before. Casual sex has never been easier to obtain, the stats show that women are still banging even with more and more men giving up or never trying in the first place... Or,could it be that women have more options and independence now so there able to be more picky about who they have casual sex with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/21 12:09 AM |
| 1 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Did any of the studies correlate loss of interest with the advent of children? This one did, but they said that it was partially responsible for the decline in women's sexual desire.So I do think that it is a significant contributing factor, but not the only thing that causes a woman to lose her sex drive.Relationship duration seems like another significant contributing factor. | /r/MensRights | 28/09/21 03:37 PM |
| 1 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Undergraduates between the ages of 18 and 25. In other words, the exact people who are famous for getting in unhealthy relationships with bad communication. People who are famous for staying in bad relationships long after they've turned sour. In other words, not only is the sample population not representative of the general population, but they also have an in-built sample bias towards a certain conclusion If the conclusion of this study was due to the sample of people being in this specific d… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 06:30 AM |
| 1 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Ok, those are other factors that can lead to a lack of interest in sex, but it does change the fact that relationship duration was a significant factor for women and not men.I don't get how this disproves the part of the study that I quoted. | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 04:40 AM |
| 0 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Here are 3 of the 5 studies.All of them show that women lose interest in sex over time. https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/7/9/e016942#T1 Associations were found between lacking interest in sex and several relationship contextual variables and for many of these variables associations were stronger for women than for men. For both men and women, lack of interest was associated with relationship status; women living with a partner were more likely to lack interest in sex than those in other relations… | /r/MensRights | 27/09/21 02:17 AM |
| 0 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Recent examinations have found that over 50% of psychological studies are unreplicatable Ok, but that doesn't seem to be the case here since the article op linked referenced multiple studies with the same findings. An Atlantic author (which is what the OP actually cited) deciding to add their own interpretation of the results of some psychological studies to establish some nonsensical point that women need to cheat on their husbands is the exact definition of "psuedoscientific bullshit." I don't… | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 10:53 PM |
| 7 | The Bored Sex - Women, more than men, tend to feel stultified by long-term exclusivity—despite having been taught that they were designed for it. - My reply to Infovore777Stop excusing bad behavior with this psuedo-scientific bullshit. Women (and men) who cheat on their marriages because "it's not fun anymore" are pathetic and immature. They aren't naturally driven to be selfish assholes, they just choose to be selfish assholes. Just because you don't like the result of a study doesn't mean it's psuedoscientific bullshit.I also don't see how the op is excusing bad behavior.He is basically just reporting the results of the studies he quoted. | /r/MensRights | 26/09/21 05:00 PM |
| 1 | I think a lot of male frustration comes from the lie that women are somehow nicer or kinder than us.I think it's both biologically and socially driven.I think women are biologically programed to view men more negatively by default,to be cautious about which men they choose to have sex and relationships with, and to choose higher quality mates.Here is a study showing that women have much higher baseline levels of sexual disgust than men, and the biggest sex difference is in the promiscuity factor. I also think that society and families reinforce these feelings by telling women that men are dogs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/21 03:57 AM |
| 4 | I think a lot of male frustration comes from the lie that women are somehow nicer or kinder than us.The Op is not talking about kindness in general.I think what he is talking about is the idea that women are the more romantic, less shallow, and nobler sex when it comes to love, while men are just dogs who shouldn't be trusted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 11:27 PM |
| 14 | I think a lot of male frustration comes from the lie that women are somehow nicer or kinder than us.I think that this is true in general, but I don't think you can apply that to relationships.Also, studies typically show that people in general care more about women than men.So I would say that men care more about women in general than women care about men. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334751470_Reactions_to_Male-Favouring_vs_Female-Favouring_Sex_Differences_A_Preregistered_Experiment_and_Southeast_Asian_Replication Our results are consistent with the idea that both sexes are more p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 10:58 PM |
| 0 | RP theories about evolutionary biology and human mating are completely baseless.You are very close. Fertility collapse started around the 1960s. "The Matrix" film which the RP analogy is based on came out in 1999. How does that disprove what he is saying?Could you elaborate more? If the best reproductive strategy for humans was to pair bond, we would not need religious institutions to enforce monogamy. You don't think their could be pair bonding in polygamous relationships? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 06:19 PM |
| 4 | Women focus on careers because a career is a good investment, a man generally isn'tIn the OP it tells us how as women we have a choice to choose what we want out of life, and in your comment it’s just “impossible to do without a man/ men do no wrong/ he won’t have to do the bare minimum but it’s okay because he won’t leave” see the contradiction here ?? Did you read the post?The post is about a career being a better investment than a man.The Op lists sources to support her argument.What i'm doing is showing how the evidence and logic she used to try to support her argument is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 07:25 AM |
| 45 | As a bisexual man, I can say from personal experience that the claim that sex in our society is "male-centric" is a mythI think this idea comes from that fact that men just get off easier than women, so feminist interpret that as sex being male-centric.However, that is not really case.The truth is that it is just harder to please a woman sexually.Female sexuality is not as straightfoward as male sexuality.So it will be more difficult to even get a woman sexually aroused in the first place, and then on top of that it will be harder to make her orgasm because of the way female anatomy works.Of course feminist don't… | /r/MensRights | 23/09/21 12:19 PM |
| 1 | I was talking to this person about why feminists don't call out the rampant misandry within their groupHere is another Example. | /r/MensRights | 22/09/21 07:01 PM |
| 2 | is it possible to have a romantic relationship with a woman where you could be emotional?Yeah I'm not quite sure about that one, but it seems like the research shows that men are the more romantic ones. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/close-encounters/201408/whos-really-more-romantic-men-or-women Other research on gender differences in romantic beliefs has found that men report being more likely to experience “love at first sight”4—one recent survey of 100,000 adults found that 48 percent of men claimed to have fallen in love at first sight, while only 28 percent of women ma… | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 05:46 PM |
| 6 | Women hate men more than men hate womenIn today's society, women don't really need men on an individual level. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 01:12 AM |
| 88 | Women hate men more than men hate womenI disagree, women have a huge in-group bias. | /r/MensRights | 21/09/21 12:14 AM |
| 5 | It's not that women don't care about men.Most of them won't care.Someone already made a post with studies showing that people both male and female don't really care about men's issues.There is also this video as well. There are also many examples of men being mistreated and people not showing sympathy. Dr Phil did a show were he lectured a man who was abused, and all the people in the audience cheered. Women on the talk were laughing about a man getting his penis cut of by his wife. | /r/MensRights | 20/09/21 06:24 PM |
| -1 | The best thing a guy can have going for him to get a particular girl is to be her physical type😆😆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 10:45 PM |
| 1 | The best thing a guy can have going for him to get a particular girl is to be her physical typesometimes, yes. when i’m single i’m a lot more likely to focus into a guy i find attractive and check him out and stare at him like a weirdo That's interesting,you seem like an exceptional woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 10:29 PM |
| 4 | The best thing a guy can have going for him to get a particular girl is to be her physical typefor sure, women have sex drives and urges and all that. i love looking at a good looking man, myself. So when you see a good looking man do you feel the urge to have sex with him? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 09:57 PM |
| 1 | As females are far more selective with their dating preferences, is their tolerance to flaws in a relationship partner far less also...It's because status and money can help compensate for a lack of good looks, but when looks are the only thing men have to offer, women standards are way higher than men's.This doesn't mean women are less picky overall though, it just means they have a different criteria for what they consider attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 06:46 PM |
| 6 | As females are far more selective with their dating preferences, is their tolerance to flaws in a relationship partner far less also...They also very rarely have any concept of whether or not the thing they feel is objectively true (is he really not pulling his weight and neglecting her) and they honestly couldn't give a fuck. All that matters is how they feel. This is so true.We always hear from feminists and the mainstream media about how women are doing more housework, and how men are not pulling their weight in the relationship, but they ignore the fact that men work more hours on average.So if you look at the overall hours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 05:38 PM |
| 11 | As females are far more selective with their dating preferences, is their tolerance to flaws in a relationship partner far less also...I think women do have less tolerance for relationship problems, here are some sources you can look at. https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2016/12/11/yes-dear-henpecked-husbands-and-one-sided-relationship-dynamics/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/it-s-man-s-and-woman-s-world/201502/who-is-more-likely-leave-bad-relationship | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 03:38 PM |
| 2 | As a male, I find it embarassing that other men wish to restrict womens freedoms just because they're "Lonely and sexless"Actually,India has a pretty low rape rate compared to other countries.Also, raping women is illegal in India. Woman in Dubai can't wear shorts or hold hands with men. Men have to follow a dress code as well. Poland has no abortion. Not exactly true, abortions are allowed if a woman is raped,or if her health or life is at risk.Those are important exceptions to point out. China used to murder infant girls due to its one child policy and still has thousands of undocumented girls who can't go to sch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/21 04:51 AM |
| 6 | Feminism.I think your argument is a strawman.Your saying that mra's shouldn't be against the idea of feminism, but there not against the idea of feminism,their against the actual feminist movement itself,which is not about gender equality.In theory feminism is about gender equality, in practice it's not.Also, you can't keep ignoring major feminist organizations, and self-proclaimed feminist who actual do activism and claim that is not real feminism.A movement is defined by it's action not it's definition… | /r/MensRights | 18/09/21 11:48 PM |
| 5 | As a male, I find it embarassing that other men wish to restrict womens freedoms just because they're "Lonely and sexless"Men DID treat women horribly. I'm sorry you find that to be distressing, but it is a fact. Men in other countries STILL treat women horribly. Some males do not understand that we are human, with faults. They consider us as commodities and the further we get from them, the angrier they are. Males like you for instance The Taliban treat women horribly,but other than that can you name places where women are treated horribly under the law. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 10:26 PM |
| 4 | As a male, I find it embarassing that other men wish to restrict womens freedoms just because they're "Lonely and sexless"Men suffered working long hours alongside women, but women suffered in addition to that by having to birth babies, taking care of children, making (actually making food not just shopping for meat and veg) keeping the home warm and insulated (fire place and oven plus fetching water are female tasks) Sweeping, weaving, knitting, sewing are all female tasks that require work being done until the late hours. Brewing, preservation of food as well as individual plot farming is a female dominant job. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Are Men Stronger Than Women? A way to Degrade Female Identity? The idea that on average men are physically stronger, bigger and taller than women is a way to degrade female identity, a concept pushed by social justice warriors and their political agendaI bet these same people would acknowledge the difference in strength between men and women to try to demonize men. | /r/MensRights | 18/09/21 06:26 AM |
| 9 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageI think there are some people who identify as feminist,who are legitimately for equal rights,but feminism itself is not about gender equality.So I think that is why some people get confused.Other people are well informed about feminism and still claim it is about equality,those are the people that are gaslighting us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 03:31 AM |
| 8 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageThis is what she said. Men never ever gave a shit if women like me lived or died. They were responsible for some of the most damaging ridicule to women of my race and phenotype. They continue to go above and beyond to undermine the experiences of such women so seriously, I have never had any inclination to ask men to feel sorry for us or to give "empathy". She is generalizing men here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 01:30 AM |
| 5 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageShe said men, when you say men without being specific your making a generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 11:32 PM |
| 40 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageYep, they also gaslight us by saying that feminism is about equality, while opposing gender neutral laws. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 11:15 PM |
| 6 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageWhy are you being so vague?I think it's reasonable to ask for specific examples. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 10:54 PM |
| 6 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageSome guys on the internet making fun of women is not sufficient evidence to prove that men in general are rude to black and south asian women.It's just like me saying I have come across some racist white people on the internet, therefore white people in general are racist.I'm sorry, but you need stronger evidence then that to make a generalization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 10:53 PM |
| 7 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageOh, we know how it used to be. What do you mean by that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 09:26 PM |
| 11 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageThey were responsible for some of the most damaging ridicule to women of my race and phenotype. What race are you? They continue to go above and beyond to undermine the experiences of such women so seriously, I have never had any inclination to ask men to feel sorry for us or to give "empathy". On what planet is that our responsibility? Can you give examples of the things men have done to undermine the experiences of women of your race? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 09:15 PM |
| 1 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageTrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 07:04 PM |
| 120 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageWomen know about men's issues,but just don't care because they believe that all of men's issues are their own fault, and that they have the power to solve their problems.Like you said people see men as priveleged, even when that's not the case.Here is a video I think you would find interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageI don't see who is in control of the relationship going further as a gendered thing.Sometimes men may want the relationship to go further, and women stop it from escalating.A significant portion of women reject marriage proposals.Also, if the woman want's to get married, and the man doesn't give her answer then she could threaten to leave the relationship, so she has some leverage over him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 06:03 PM |
| 10 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageAnything escalating past the initial dating stages is for the most part in the mans court. How?Are you saying women have no control over how far the relationship goes after the dating stage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 03:26 PM |
| 4 | RP says we're in a "decline" right now. Decline... from what exactly? Doesn't it seem like the current situation is precisely what they wanted to begin with?Men by design “can” do that, as opposed to how women are designed to select for their best. But like I stated in the other comment, our values overcome our instincts It's not just about values,men wanting relationships is innate as well.There are benefits to men getting into long-term relationships as well.Both short-term, and long-term mating strategies can benefit men overall, and have different pro's and con's. By offering long-term commitment, men received fitness benefits by gaining access … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 02:09 AM |
| 13 | RP says we're in a "decline" right now. Decline... from what exactly? Doesn't it seem like the current situation is precisely what they wanted to begin with?Western civilization. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 01:04 AM |
| 5 | RP says we're in a "decline" right now. Decline... from what exactly? Doesn't it seem like the current situation is precisely what they wanted to begin with?I think their argument against what is happening in modern society is that women will only have sex with a small percentage of top-tier men, which means that most men will struggle to get sex.Whereas before more men would have an opportunity to get sex from women via relationships.I don't think their argument is actually logically inconsistent.I just think that the idea that men just want casual sex from women is wrong.Historically,men needed to desire relationships with women so that woman coul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 01:02 AM |
| 2 | Do you think there is too much discussion and that people make a simple thing complicated?Add to this, some folks do not understand that a statistic is not guaranteed probability, let alone how flawed a statistic might be. What do you mean by guaranteed probability? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 12:53 AM |
| 6 | RP says we're in a "decline" right now. Decline... from what exactly? Doesn't it seem like the current situation is precisely what they wanted to begin with?I know your comment was not for me, but I want to answer anyways.Not only do I disagree with the idea that men want women just for casual sex, but I also think men want relationships more than women as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 12:48 AM |
| 21 | RP says we're in a "decline" right now. Decline... from what exactly? Doesn't it seem like the current situation is precisely what they wanted to begin with?We have been on the decline in terms of fertility rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/21 12:41 AM |
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