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You're strawmanning my arguments again. I never claimed it was men specifically who were "power" in that equation. In fact, I wasn't the one who brought up "power" in the first place. And I completely agree. The prison system needs to be reformed. It is messed up and the people trapped in it need help. Also I'm not here to debate feminism. I won't touch on anything you've said about it because it is off topic. I am standing by my original debate topic. Black men being racially and systematically…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 07:19 PM
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You haven't given an actual counterargument to anything I said. Prejudice is prejudice Strawman argument again. I never said otherwise. I claimed that prejudice+power=systematic oppression rather than simple prejudice. You are no better, you can't think for yourself, etc. Ad hominems again. Can you please stop attacking me and actually tell me where my logic and reasoning is wrong? If it's all parroted rhetoric you've heard before, that should be simple for you to do. Once again, you have failed…
/r/MensRights24/12/13 04:56 PM
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Honestly, I can't tell if you're trolling. I stayed on topic and never once attacked you personally. If you want me to pick apart your last argument, though, here we go: Just like the 'knockout game' is example of widespread black racism From my research, the knockout game is neither widespread, confirmed racism, nor a form of systematic oppression. Further, racist acts aren't the same thing as systematic racism. The US justice system is racist without any singular individual person needing to b…
/r/MensRights23/12/13 09:58 PM
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I'm not going to debate strawman and ad hominem attacks.
/r/MensRights23/12/13 06:37 PM
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Um. Okay. I don't really know what made you so angry or why you're going off on random anti-feminist stuff. I don't remember bringing anything like that up. But... okay. Cool.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 04:25 AM
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You're right that every race has problems identifying someone of a different race. The difference with black people is that jurors are also more likely to convict them. I've been doing a case brief on one where a black man was convicted of a robbery in Utah despite recovering from a stroke on Louisiana at the time it occurred. The jury decided, sure, he hopped on a bus, took the purse, then rode three days back to be on time back to work after his medical leave. The only defining feature that an…
/r/MensRights20/12/13 04:55 AM
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It doesn't help when the news isn't getting it right. "Forty-three years later, a similar story:" No, CNN, those are not similar stories at all. They are completely different in every way. I swear it's not that difficult but to some people I guess it is.
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:26 PM
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Right, but the article used both as examples. Which is the problem. You can't look at statistics of both when you're specifically talking about "false accusation."
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:11 PM
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Here's the thing. The majority of false imprisonments occur because of eyewitness misidentification. Which has been proven to occur far more frequently when a perpetrator is a different race than the victim. Look it up, there are solid studies on it. If you're denying racism, you're kinda proving more about your own logical capabilities than denying mine. It exists, especially in the legal system. I'd assumed the mrm cared about sentencing and prison equality. But maybe they only care of white b…
/r/MensRights19/12/13 05:52 AM
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Can everyone here please acknowledge (which the article fails to do) that there is a difference between purposefully, falsely, and maliciously accusing someone of a crime and false conviction based on misidentification? This: Bates recanted her testimony, saying she had made it all up IS NOT THIS: Tibbs spent nearly three years in prison in Florida after he was convicted in 1974 of a rape and murder that he had nothing to do with. See, in the first example, the victim was never a victim. In the …
/r/MensRights18/12/13 11:10 PM
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It seems like this is fair. According to The National Registry of Exonerations, 62% of those who have been exonerated of rape charges are African Americans. That's fairly significant considering that black people are only about 15% of the US population and 25% of those imprisoned for rape. This means that if you're falsely accused of rape, you're more likely to end up actually convicted/sentenced if you're a black man. So that doesn't sound like "pulling the race card" so much as acknowledging t…
/r/MensRights18/12/13 11:05 PM
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The Innocence Project estimates that between 2.3%-5% of people currently in prison are innocent. They also specifically point out that DNA evidence is only available in about 5-10% of cases. My point is that if a crime has no DNA or material evidence and relies entirely on eyewitness identification or crappy surveillance tape for conviction then we really have no way of knowing how many may be potentially innocent. It sounds like you've seen firsthand how fucked up the system is. If you have tim…
/r/MensRights24/10/13 08:33 PM
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I'm guessing false convictions happen equally as often in other crimes. The sad side of that story is that other crimes aren't as easily over-turned. DNA evidence is absolute in a way no others are. You want to prove you didn't snatch that purse? Well, too freaking bad, the only evidence in the first place was an eyewitness statement. And since you're a black guy, if you didn't do that you would have done something else. /s
/r/MensRights24/10/13 03:59 PM
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The woman had provided very few details about the suspects... She said she had been tied up and blindfolded while she was cleaning a house, and one man had raped her while another man held her down... The evidence, taken from the victim's fingernails and pubic hair, hadn't been tested back in 1993 because of the lack of technology to test small amounts. Sounds like this particular case was one of false conviction rather than false allegation: Attorneys... argued the county was negligent in emplo…
/r/MensRights24/10/13 02:37 PM
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First, I apologize, I didn't realize that in England it's required by law for the accuser to have anonymity. I'm only familiar with US law, so all of my arguments are based on that knowledge. I maintain that it is still relevant, however, because there are people commenting on this article who seem to assume the same thing exists everywhere, and I was hoping to clarify that in the US it doesn't. As for your article, a better citation would be this "We conclude that the trial court's evidentiary …
/r/MensRights13/09/13 03:17 PM
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I did. And here's what it says since reading comprehension is not your strong suit: As a matter of courtesy, most newspapers and broadcast media in the United States do not disclose the name of an alleged rape victim during the trial... and ...a Florida criminal statute that prohibited the media from identifying the names of sexual assault victims violated the First Amendment." As for the Rape Shield Law from 1994 referenced, that is the Federal Rule of Evidence that I already linked you to. Ple…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 05:14 PM
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There's not "immunity." There are protections, however defense attorneys get around them pretty easily. You're simply displaying your lack of honest research on the topic. Here is the actual protection and all of the exceptions to it. Note that the exceptions to the "immunity" include proof of identity for the accused (which means you can bring in the "promiscuity" of the alleged victim) and there's an exception for proving consent. There's a magical third exception allowing any evidence in acco…
/r/MensRights12/09/13 04:52 PM
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I completely agree. Although my personal opinion is that "punishment" shouldn't be the actual goal of the criminal justice system. I'm a firm believer in rehabilitation. If the mindset of how we look at "criminals" changed, I also think a lot of the social circus around the system would inherently go away. But that's my own little soap box, I'll hop right on off of it now. :P
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:42 PM
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Why would someone accused of rape get anonymity over any other person accused of any other crime? I feel deep sympathy for anyone who has their life ruined by a false accusation of any crime, it's a major problem with media mixing in the judicial system. However blanket anonymity in the court system would be a bad thing, I think we all agree there is a reason having a public trial is a right. You're supposed to be able to leave with a clear name when you are innocent. I think the problem is not …
/r/MensRights12/09/13 03:22 PM
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I'm a strong advocate for required "new parent" leave. A standard of anywhere between 3-5 months when any employee is expecting a new child in his/her home. This would be beneficial for gay adopting couples, men, and women alike. I also feel like it would shrink a lot of the wage gap problems because the discrimination of "this employee is more likely to take time off because baby" would have to go away. It would also encourage a society that expects and accepts men as homemakers and child-reare…
/r/MensRights22/08/13 11:02 PM
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You did the right thing, you're fine. You could have politely told the officer you didn't want to talk to him and then asked if you were free to go, however realizing that the officer you're speaking to is a human being and that human beings don't react well when people are rude to them is smart. Don't be rude to the McDonald's griller if you don't want spit in your sandwich.
/r/MensRights22/08/13 10:49 PM
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But anyone who plays video-games will point out that female characters generally have ridiculous hair too. Real world vs video games. Now you can go ahead and counter that there are plenty of female video game characters with either short or pulled back hair, you should also acknowledge that there are plenty of bald male video game characters, like this guy, this character, or him. This argument is kind of a texas sharpshooter fallacy. Hair is a simple form of characterization in video games, wh…
/r/MensRights05/08/13 05:32 PM
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Hahahaha! I was trying to come up with a good comparison and couldn't, but that is brilliant.
/r/MensRights25/07/13 06:10 PM
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I've never heard of an Esthesiometer before, and that is cool! Thanks! Science is so cool. I guess when it comes to sensitivity=good/bad sex, I just don't think it's possible for me to relate or understand. I certainly hope men who have had the procedure are able to enjoy their sex lives just as much as if they hadn't, but to be frank I just don't get how it could really change that much. Is the procedure barbaric? Yes. Pointless? Absolutely. Unnecessary? Of course. Life destroying? In my opinio…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 05:31 PM
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So I disagree completely with forcing circumcision on infants. At the same time, I'm curious as how the 25% sensitivity could be measured accurately, I also take issue with the automatically assumed connection that 25% less sensitivity is 25% "less good sex." No one has stated that assumption specifically, but I kind of get that feel. I wonder how genital mutilation may relate to this; where many people who have been paralyzed from the waist down actually have noticeable changes in the area they…
/r/MensRights25/07/13 04:06 PM
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Gender and sex are different things. It's actually really cool, there are a lot of cultures that have include more than two genders. Here's a fun link if you're interested in learning more about them. So yes, you are anatomically male, but gender wise you may not strictly fit what our society has labeled "boy."
/r/MensRights23/07/13 02:41 PM
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It's inadmissible as hearsay anyway. But everyone here seems to think the real legal world is the way it is in movies and tv. Spoiler alert, it's not. The 5th amendment is still valid, someone saying they did something isn't evidence that they actually did it.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:16 PM
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*shrug My recommendation would be that he hire a lawyer. Let them decide what evidence to collect and how to collect it so it can actually be used.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:13 PM
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I don't know the employer or their company policy. Seems like a crappy place to work if they'd fire someone for one anonymous allegation though. Either they had more than one reason to want him gone or they're not worth working for anyway? Just my opinion, and one without merit at that.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 02:11 PM
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Could, but getting the courts to recognize new technology isn't easy. So it's possible, but the voice recognition software would have to be proven to work with nearly 100% accuracy. That's what it took to get DNA evidence in. The technology was around for a long time before it was actually admissible.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 01:18 PM
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Recorded phone calls are considered hearsay and generally not admissible in court. Just as an fyi, recording calls isn't solid evidence. Why? Because they're really easy to make up and impossible to verify. Edit: Here is the rule, and these are the exceptions. Quote: (c) Hearsay. “Hearsay” means a statement that: (1) the declarant does not make while testifying at the current trial or hearing; and (2) a party offers in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement. In simpl…
/r/MensRights19/07/13 07:06 AM
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The only thing that frustrates me about the bitching, which seems to be common, is that no one is saying "let's step up and actually do something, let's just sit back and complain." Like the cancer thing. Cancer sucks. Most of the breast cancer awareness and money raising started with people who were directly affected by it, and they put a huge amount of work into getting information out there and asking for donations. It just seems like setting up a fundraiser would be more effective than makin…
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:41 PM
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Your problem may be with Yahoo news specifically and not all news sources. If you've noticed them writing stories differently for male alleged perpetrators, you should document it and write them a letter. Many times news outlets don't even see their own discrimination, especially since each article is written by different people. According to other news sources, she was placed on administrative leave when the investigation began and subsequently resigned. In my research, this seems to be a very …
/r/MensRights09/07/13 09:10 PM
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As a form of manipulation, false rape accusation is a problem - and based on the circumstances around it could be considered harassment and abuse. The response to "I'm going to accuse you of rape" should be "falsifying a police report is a crime that can result in jail time." At the same time, if it's something a man is commonly afraid of in his life I recommend he take a close look at (a) the type of women he's sleeping with and (b) the circumstances surrounding his sexual encounters.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 10:45 PM
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No, most of it is meant to prove identity. Blood samples could show drugs and BAC of the victim to help prove he/she was incapable of consent at the time. I know they catalog things like lacerations and bruises, but most often rape isn't violent. Not a lot of evidence, but a lot of invasion.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 10:31 PM
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I agree with you, I really do. That's not okay, we need to do something about it. But out of those 1 in 2,800 how many are in jail for sex crimes specifically rather than drug possession, theft, murder, fraud, burglary, etc. The numbers still say that the likelihood of any average man having sex with any average woman and her both wrongfully accusing him of rape and him ending up in jail based only on her word versus his just isn't likely.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 10:05 PM
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I'm studying law - many of my professors have been prosecutors and judges, I work in a law firm, my brother is the lead detective in the town I grew up in. My best friend just got hired at the local Criminal Justice Center. I like to ask a lot of questions. You're right, DNA evidence doesn't prove very much, but it does wonders at proving identity. In order for a person to get fully convicted of rape, there has to be more than just DNA, and rape kits involve cataloging other physical evidence wi…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:48 PM
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The rates that result in a conviction are actual rates from the department of justice. It's how many reported rapes end with the accused in jail for it. These aren't assumed numbers. We know how many rapes get reported, police keep track of that, and we know how many of those get followed up on (again, something they keep track of). The rest of my numbers, yes, are entirely bullshit, we have no way of knowing how many reported rapes are actual or not, no more than we have any way of knowing how …
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:20 PM
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I love The Innocence Project. They're a great service for people who have been wrongly accused. I will point out that their biggest success has come from DNA and that the biggest reason for wrong convictions is misidentification. The crime actually happened, there's plenty of evidence for that, people just happen to seriously suck at eyewitness identification. Further, there is only one crime that can get the death sentence and it's murder. While rape in some form has been involved in many of th…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 09:18 PM
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Further, there are anecdotes on both sides, but the statistics are that somewhere between 6-10% of reported rapes end up with a person both tried and convicted. Let's assume, just for the sake of argument, that half of reported rapes are false accusations. That leaves, just statistically if we were to flip coins and not take anything else (evidence, jury honesty, etc) into consideration, a 3-5% likelihood of ending up in prison falsely and a 45-47% chance of getting away with a legitimate crime.…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 03:11 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately tapes like that are hearsay and usually inadmissible, so it wouldn't have helped your friend. Utah isn't the most corrupt law wise, but our family law stuff? A lot of it is heavily influenced by the local religious culture. There's a lot of shady business around adoptions and divorces. It's creepy.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 02:48 PM
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Beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard of conviction for all criminal cases. Juries are told this in their instructions. Wrong convictions still happen, sadly, but the standard is what should be met and what juries know they're voting based on.
/r/MensRights03/07/13 02:11 PM
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The actual wording of the law is "commits a sexual act upon another person when the other person is incapable of consenting to the sexual act due to (A) impairment by any drug, intoxicant, or other similar substance, and that condition is known or reasonably should be known by the person." (10 USC 920 - Art 120 (b)(2)) Every state is going to have their own version, but most follow very similar wording. These specific semantics are important. It means if someone is obviously passed out, don't ha…
/r/MensRights03/07/13 06:58 AM
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:/ I'm afraid Utah isn't either which is sad because it's, like, the entire reason I'm studying law. At least we're not Louisiana, right?
/r/MensRights02/07/13 08:39 PM
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I think something has to be done about minimum mandatory sentencing, it seems like that's the biggest culprit in your friends case. It would be really nice to see the potential for sentencing leniency on crimes that aren't quite so cut and dry, especially in this case where it wasn't violent or predatory in nature.
/r/MensRights02/07/13 08:30 PM
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Just so you all have some information here are the rules of evidence in relation to sex crimes: http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_412 I realize this seems harsh from the perspective of someone wrongly accused, and it is the opposite of every other crime (where past disposition can be used as a piece of evidence). Though if it's only he said vs. she said it's hard to convince a jury that there's "beyond a reasonable doubt" that the crime happened. Since the jury convicted him, it's possib…
/r/MensRights02/07/13 07:36 PM
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9 months of illness, not being able to participate in social activities, not sleeping properly, required time off work, being high risk for further medical complications (you can develop things like diabetes from pregnancy), medical bills for proper checkups, and not being sure that the child will get into a good home, along with a high likelihood that the chemicals in your brain will override your previous desires and force you to love the thing, and knowing that by giving it up for adoption yo…
/r/MensRights28/06/13 03:55 PM
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Personally, I don't think the problem feminists have is that men like looking at women. It's that things like nudie calenders sale an unrealistic image of women. It's a standard women unfairly feel they have to compete with - and similarly that it's all they're worth (when her looks go away so does her value to society). In that sense it's not actually cognitive dissonance. The real natural imperfect female form is embraced while the photo-shopped paid-for "perfected" female body form is rejecte…
/r/MensRights27/06/13 05:25 PM
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You might be interested in giving this podcast episode a listen. There aren't any specific conclusions reached, but it does a good job at defining patriarchal and matriarchal societies and comparing them. There is a lot of opinion, but there is a decent amount of science too: http://www.freakonomics.com/2013/02/24/women-are-not-men-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/
/r/MensRights18/06/13 10:55 PM
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Perhaps you're discussing it the wrong way. While you're thinking "I want to protect my assets" she's thinking "I don't want to get married if he's already thinking about divorce." A prenup is a worst case scenario protection for both of you. It sets things out logically before emotional shit hits the fan. It's more like having car insurance. You don't ever want to use it, but if you are in a situation where you may need it then it makes things much simpler. Respect her, and make sure that the p…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 04:44 PM
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I can see how it would come across that way, and the comparison is supposed to be there. It's not a direct comparison, though. Consensual sex is not rape, even if one of the parties doesn't fully feel comfortable with it. However, it is still going to leave the less comfortable party feeling vulnerable and used. There are multiple messages, which I think everyone agrees with. 1) Be honest with your feelings during sexual encounters. If you don't want to have sex, say no, walk away, don't do it. …
/r/MensRights25/05/13 04:43 AM
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That's where the "individual" part comes in. While most feminists are concerned about equality everywhere, it's easy to be over focused on the issues you personally face on a frequent basis (though they may be small in comparison to another person's). When I went to Africa I saw a shocking mix. Some areas of equality were actually better than in the US. Granted, others were much, much worse. We do what we can where we can to help who we can; however it's hard to believe you can help stop sex sla…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:32 PM
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Perhaps we have different definitions of "feminism." To me, feminism is simply a philosophical category. It's a collection of ideas with a common theme. People are meant to take the ideas, think on them, and either incorporate them or discard them depending on what will benefit them as an individual. Sometimes groups of people are exposed to the same things and need the same ideals to help them grow past them. Sometimes, the ideas are rubbish. Sometimes, the ideas contain the same poison as the …
/r/MensRights24/05/13 09:17 PM
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Thank you for your open minded question. :) The sad part of the whole thing is that most of the time the pressure a girl would feel in that situation isn't even coming from the person she's with. Most men take "no" at face value and will cease to pressure or ask if it's said. The pressure comes more from societal views. There's this idea (even though it's usually presented in a joking manner, it is repeated so often that it sticks) that the more a girl says yes to in the bedroom, the more value …
/r/MensRights24/05/13 07:56 PM
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What she's trying to explain is that sometimes women feel extremely pressured into sex that they are less than comfortable with. You're correct that it's not rape. But in this instance what feminism helps her with is feeling like she's allowed to express herself and truly say no, even when there's what seems like a ton of pressure. From the feminist side of this argument, it's not actually about rape. It's saying, in a roundabout way, what all of the comments here are saying. "Express what you t…
/r/MensRights24/05/13 06:59 PM
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Actually, no. It's not oppressive unless women don't have any other options. Feminism isn't about forcing anyone into any specific role, but allowing everyone the freedom to make their own choice and have it be accepted by society. Choosing to be a homemaker is fine. Being forced specifically because of your genitalia is oppressive.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 02:26 PM
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So I've noticed very similar behavior in a female friend of mine. I live with her and her boyfriend, and it's extremely frustrating. How do you approach a friend and tell her she's abusive? I don't want to offend her, but I hadn't noticed how much she does abusive stuff until recently, and it's starting to seriously bother me.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 03:32 PM
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You know, except for in Pakistan http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/03/world/asia/pakistan-acid-attack Or Iran http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19665615 I get that in the US women don't face issues, but in other countries you can't deny that they are actively being stopped from progression. You can bash the "troubles" of western women all you want, but when the "imaginary" patriarchy is throwing real acid on real women for going to school, yes, they are actively stopping them.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:32 PM
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Except when everyone's sitting around talking money, in my experience, no one is being entirely honest. I tended to talk down how much I made around new servers so that they wouldn't get their expectations as high. Just because the guys claimed to be making more doesn't mean they actually were, or that if you gave a male and female the exact same table they'd be tipped differently. I honestly think tipping is more about the customer and not about the server. People just sort of tip how much they…
/r/MensRights06/03/13 09:00 PM
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I was a server for a few years, and didn't notice much difference between men and women in tip percentage, as much as I noticed a difference in individual personalities and, honestly, table turnover times. If it were a gender issue (I honestly think it's individual and not gender based) it could be that men are less likely to chat with their tables and instead get them out quicker. I did notice people who "sniped" tables tended to make more money (people who would only take couples, singles, or …
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:13 PM
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I would understand the frustration of introducing affirmative action to a system that used to be entirely merit based, but it looks like in the past "20 are based solely on one writing test, completely anonymously 14 are chosen based on a combination of writing score and grades 10 spots are chosen by a discretionary committee," which still incorporates grades and writing scores but adds in a long list of other considerations. Because they're adding "women" to the "other considerations" list, the…
/r/MensRights23/02/13 06:26 PM
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Wow. Those are some extreme ideas. o_O
/r/MensRights22/02/13 04:03 PM
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So the discussion here isn't about the actual passage of the book it came from, but about the background philosophy in the specifically highlighted quote? That makes more sense then. I mean, the book itself goes overboard in a lot of places too, but is a little more reasonable than "never have penetration-sex or you're degraded." I will have to look into Frye more, I'm quite unfamiliar with her(?) ideas. Thanks for the clarification!
/r/MensRights22/02/13 02:15 PM
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So, I'm new here, and genuinely curious. This passage seems to be referring to "fucking" as a different act than "sex." Since our society has placed a generally negative connotation on the word "fuck" (ie "Jake got so fucked up he couldn't see" or "Dude, Filipino hookers don't get fucked the way I do") I took this passage to be specifically referring to, not sex in general or even heterosexual sex, but to the generally degrading nature of "being fucked," an act that isn't necessarily gender-limi…
/r/MensRights22/02/13 04:34 AM
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