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Abortion is a binary decision. Either the pregnant person goes through with the pregnancy to birth, or they terminate the pregnancy. There is no middle ground. There is no compromise. It is an inherently either/or situation. Therefore there is no consideration of another's feelings. A woman who wants an abortion in a relationship with a man who doesn't can't have only 2/3 of an abortion as a compromise position. This isn't like an argument about where to go on vacation. What, and I'm asking for …
/r/MensRights17/07/13 10:53 AM
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Again, you're really claiming that the tendency here towards wild hyperbole (slavery, etc) is not even remotely similar to how you accuse women of behaving about proposals to deny them bodily autonomy?
/r/MensRights17/07/13 12:16 AM
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Irrelevant to the subject at hand. I was addressing the rather absurd statement that it was bad or wrong for a deeply personal invasion was being "taken personally" by those affected. Discussions of whether you think that violation of bodily autonomy is justified are a different matter from whether or not those directly and personally affected are wrong to take that violation personally.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 11:21 PM
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Tell me cousin, if the government, courts, and churches were dominated by women who were advocating castration of men would you "maintain a rational point of view", or would you take it personally and feel deeply aggrieved that people were advocating for laws that directly and deeply violated your bodily autonomy? Given the tone of high dudgeon that pervades this subreddit on issues perceived here to infringe upon your economic autonomy I find the bit about women being too emotional about their …
/r/MensRights16/07/13 11:19 PM
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As soon as that "child" is in the body of the man then the man will have 100% of the voice as well. You want to have the decision, you get pregnant. Bodily autonomy trumps your sads.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 11:16 PM
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Er, you do realize that abortion is personal for women, yes? They can get pregnant, see, so while to you the matter may be an abstract academic issue for women it is about as personal as it gets.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 09:34 PM
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Gee, if only it were possible to actually link to Jezebel you couldn't be tricked so easily. Since you link to AVfM in the sidebar, everyone knows no one here actually gives a shit about doxxing, so maybe you ban links to Jezebel because you want to be tricked like this?
/r/MensRights09/05/13 03:06 PM
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Yeah, all that getting the vote for women stuff was totally the very antithesis of equality!
/r/MensRights08/04/13 09:03 PM
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No, actually I rather dislike SRS. But I recognize the utter obscene absurdity involved in pretending that men in India are the victims of Evil Matriarchy. More to the point, five or six people is not activism. Show me the MRA organized fight to abolish the draft. Show me the MRA organized and funded domestic violence shelters for men. Show me the MRA organized Blue Ribbon campaign to fight against prostate cancer. Except you can't. Because Men's Rights "Activists" aren't activist.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:29 PM
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Indian MRA's? Dang, talk about proving my point for me. India? One of the most awful places to be a woman that isn't a Muslim nation? India? A place where widow burning is still a problem in rural areas? And the poor menz there feel oppressed? Bwahahaha!
/r/MensRights04/01/13 05:12 PM
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No, I said that they did it and the women could be tracked down using the tools provided by AVfM. I brought that up because in past discussions with people about VA and the Gawker defender of VA have claimed that by doxxing him the Gawker made him vulnerable to physical assault by psychopaths. If that's true for VA than it's true for the victims of AVfM's doxxing projects too.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:36 PM
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Not that it particularly matters, but I'm a man. I'm a feminist because on a selfish level I genuinely think feminism is beneficial to men as well as women, and on a more philosophic level I support equality and feminism is the only political philosophy I see that is really devoted to that and takes concrete action. Even if I agreed that the MRM was of value, and I don't, they don't DO anything but sit around the internet and gripe about how much they hate feminists.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:35 PM
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Sex criminality? I believe you're hallucinating sir, as no one on this thread has brought up sex crimes except you. I came here in good faith seeking honestly to understand why /r/mensrights claimed to be against doxxing as a moral position while simultaneously linking to AVfM which uses doxxing against those AVfM sees as enemies. I believe I now understand why: the mods here are lying when they claim to be morally and universally opposed to doxxing, they merely oppose doxxing people they like a…
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:31 PM
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Like I said, Chen didn't GAF about VA. If that's your standard then fine, but don't pretend that you're opposed to doxxing on any solid moral ground. You simply view it as a weapon: something you seek to deploy against your enemies, something you wish to defend your friends from.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:24 PM
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I know a guy like that. You know a racist? Congrats, so does everyone else.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:23 PM
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What was /r/beatingwomen if not advocating subjugating women by violence?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:21 PM
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And Chen didn't GAF about VA. So doxxing isn't bad in your view, it's just a matter of who gets doxxed. People you like should be protected, people you don't like shouldn't, yes?
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:20 PM
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AVfM posts the info of women who are mean to MRA's on twitter. That isn't a crime the last time I checked. And of course there's the whole agentorange bit.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:17 PM
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Putting up fliers is not activism. Trying to set up an men's center is activism, I'll grant that. Setting up a DV shelter would be activism, if you ever do it please let me know. You're right however, that most MRM members will stay online where they are perceived to be "safe." because feminists have a history of violently attacking those who oppose them in the public sphere. Insert derisive laughter here.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:16 PM
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And used it as blackmail too I've never understood how this false claim got so popular. VA himself has said that Chen did not try to blackmail him.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 05:14 PM
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And women who posted mean things about MRA's on twitter who had their real identities exposed by AVfM.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 01:32 AM
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And I'm not a mod here anymore bro. My mistake.
/r/MensRights21/12/12 01:32 AM
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I'm going to assume you mean "sorry sotonohito, I can't actually find any lies you've told so I'll just be really vague and hope it fools people into thinking that you're a liar".
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:25 PM
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So you can't actually name any lies, you just like the idea of saying I'm a liar. Seriously, how hard is it to say, "you lied about X"?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:19 PM
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So you can't actually name any lies, you just like the idea of saying I'm a liar.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:15 PM
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The horror.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:11 PM
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So you can't think of any either?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:10 PM
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Please specify what exactly I said you believe to be false. I have said nothing at all that is false about the mod team here. AnnArchist did post both approving comments and video to /r/beatingwomen. If you believe that is false, please tell me why. as well as dishonestly minimizing the criminality of the feminists that AVfM reports. The "criminality" of Sophia Guo, for example, appears to be limited to disliking MRA's. The "criminality" of Emma Kadey, for example, appears to be limited to means…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 10:01 PM
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Please link to any real world activism done by MRA's.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:51 PM
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Yes. To hang around a community organized and run by a person who does bad things is not a good thing. Obviously the people who hang around that community aren't guilty of what the individual does/did, but they are complacent in that they have chosen to ignore that individual's bad behavior and give them implicit approval by continuing their association. People here routinely object to people who have contribute to SRS on that ground alone, how is that different? I would not choose to remain par…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:49 PM
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Please link to MRA's actually doing activism.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:46 PM
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Yes I would agree that it's bad for doxxing As I said in another post, WHO you are doxxing does in fact make a difference. Intent matters. There seems to be a conflict between those statements. Either doxxing is inherently bad, in which case the subject doesn't matter. Or doxxing is inherently neutral and who you dox is the critical question. Which is it?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:46 PM
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I havne't told any lies. I did confuse the AVfM doxxing project with the Hunter Moore doxxing project. When two people who hate women start a project to showcase their hatred of women sometimes outsiders get confused. It is 100% factual that AnnArchist was a regular and prolific poster to /r/beatingwomen, that he posted both comments praising video of women being beaten and posted video of women being beaten. Regrettably, since reddit permits users to delete posts even years after they were made…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:44 PM
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Name one person outed by Gawker who has been killed or otherwise physically injured due to being outed by the Gawker.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:35 PM
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Random women at a protest are "powerful members of a hate group"? VA was a random person Gawker disagreed with? Dang, you've got a very different view of the universe than I do. But still, would you agree that AVfM is bad for doxxing? If so, would you agree that since /r/mensrights makes linking to Gawker a bannable offense they should do the same with AVfM?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:09 PM
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Founder of a revenge porn site. Google his name and you'll find plenty of stories about his businesses.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:08 PM
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Doing nothing but posting online is protected, going into the real world and being an activist makes you a legitimate target. Got it. If I could establish hat VA had left his house would that make him a legitimate target for doxxing? Or are only women who leave the house legitimate targets for doxxing? That attitude definitely helps explain why you "activists" don't do any actual activism.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:06 PM
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but regardless he doesn't represent anyone but himself. He also represents everyone here on /r/mensrights who doesn't call for his removal as a mod.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:05 PM
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The speaker at the university did support incest, he's on record as saying that it's a potentially good thing. calling for the forced sterilization of a gender Doublethink is amazing. You excuse VA's behavior on the ground that he was joking, but take jokes by others as deadly serious. Here's a difficult mental exercise: try holding people you like to the same standard you hold people you don't like.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:03 PM
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Hmm. Actually looking at your post I think I now understand why the "activism" of MRA's is pretty exclusively limited to posting on AVfM and reddit. Per your logic that makes you safe, while actually going into the world and being an activist makes you a legitimate target.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:01 PM
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It was identical to what happened to VA, AVfM posted real names and city/state. How is that different?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 08:00 PM
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Actually just confused. I mixed up AVfM's doxxing project with Hunter Moore's doxxing project. AVfM just posts the same info that was posted on VA: name, city/state. Hunter Moore is planning to post full addresses, maps, etc.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:59 PM
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YOUR OWN FUCKING MOD HERE POSTED THERE APPROVINGLY, REGULARLY, FOR YEARS. Don't give me bullshit and lies about how it's all a conspiracy of your opponents. AnnArchist was a huge fan of /r/beatingwomen, posted videos there regularly, commented approvingly of videos, and he's a mod here on /r/mensrights. You cannot claim, without lying, that /r/beatingwomen was not something that the mods of /r/mensrights liked and approved of. The link to /r/mensrights and AVfM is that people from both places po…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:51 PM
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AVfM is doggedly anti-violence, so don't make false accusations of violence. http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/activism/the-fembots-are-already-bent-out-of-shape/ We are coming for you, and we are coming for all the liars out there that have been ruining people’s lives with impunity. [...] You are SO fucked. That sounds rather like advocating of violence to me. I can easily believe that AVfM calls for violence using coded language like this so it can deny that it's really calling for viole…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:47 PM
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No, they just call for the subjugation of a gender by violence. Totes different I know.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:38 PM
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Distractions to the side I've just got one simple question: are you saying that doxxing in general is bad, or only that doxxing VA was bad? If it is the position of you and the others here on /r/mensrights that doxxing in general is fine but doxxing VA in specific was bad then that's fine. I just want confirmation before I start working on the assumption that that is the position here. Is doxxing as a general category of action bad? If so, then you need to explain the support of AVfM. If doxxing…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:37 PM
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/r/mensrights moderator AnnArchist was a frequent contributor and commenter at /r/beatingwomen. Your attempt to lie about /r/beatingwomen is laughable. Also? It was created several years before SRS even existed, so the idea that it was created by SRS is completely insane.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:33 PM
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So completely unlike VA, AnnArchist, and /r/beatingwomen then, right?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:16 PM
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No, AVfM has reported on a woman who tweeted a joke and spoke against an MRA speaker at her university. And AVfM posted her home address, phone number, etc just in case some violent individual wanted to do her harm. If there were a subreddit devoted to videos of men being assaulted, raped, etc run by a female version of VA would you be so quick to brush off her actions? I rather doubt it. Of course, I realize that since AnnArchist is a mod here you can't really address /r/beatingwomen without in…
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:12 PM
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So the Gawker was perfectly fine then, right? VA not only advocated violent crimes, he moderated and contributed to a subreddit specifically dedicated to reveling in videos of violent crimes. By your logic then the Gawker was dealing in standard investigative journalism and shouldn't be banned, no?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:06 PM
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They attach names and addresses so deranged psychopaths can track those people (all women so far) down and kill them. But VA was special, right? He's the only one who matters.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:05 PM
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Ah, so revealing the name and city of someone who says things on the internet is the Worst Thing Ever, but revealing the home addresses, phone numbers, etc of people who say things in the real world is perfectly fine? I'm afraid I don't follow your reasoning there. Whereas if you are going to get out there in a public sphere and test your ideas in the public marketplace, you are making a choice to have yourself be known. And VA wasn't testing his ideas in a public sphere and marketplace? Reddit …
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:03 PM
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Yes, one was a redditor and the others aren't. The message, apparently, is not "doxxing is bad", but rather "doxxing US is bad everyone else is fair game" Also note that AVfM has been posting addresses, maps, and other things that would be very useful for someone who wanted to engage in violence against the doxxed people. But they aren't redditors so who cares, right?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:02 PM
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registerher.com Also, the recent spate of AVfM doxxing various people who disagreed an MRA speaker at a university.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 07:01 PM
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So it isn't that doxxing in general is bad, but only that doxxing the special people is bad?
/r/MensRights20/12/12 04:57 PM
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I got banned from /r/feminism for being a feminist. demmian is an MRA, or at least an MRA sympathizer, and he exhibits neither patience nor mercy with feminists who are even slightly snarky to the MRA's who dominate all the conversation on /r/feminism. Nor does he enforce his supposed rules. Officially it is a bannable offence to state that feminism is unnecessary, bad, evil, etc. In practice comments saying exactly that account for upwards of 50% of all comments there (yes, really, we've been t…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 11:34 PM
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