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| 1 | Women like dominant and aggressive men, even if they date nice guysYou've never heard of girls liking hockey players who have broke their nose or lost teeth? I'm sure rugby has it to. Their tested. It's common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/26 11:33 PM |
| 6 | Modern dating is becoming more difficult because men and women are becoming increasingly ideologically dividedOr children. There are a lot of men being effected by this rhetoric who are still in middle and highschool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/26 01:38 AM |
| – | Women discard what men say they like in women, then turn around and tell men what they like in women.Hey look at that, once again, we're not even a little right. And we're so wrong it's almost like we've never been right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/26 01:36 AM |
| 5 | Does anyone care that dating is better now for women?As well, this needs to be it's own thread. The Kafka trap of arguing with women. If you're wrong they win. If you're right, you're evil, nasty, or actually she just decided she doesn't care anymore and you can't possibly win. Because society and all their friends say their a 10 then what do you even have to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/26 10:55 PM |
| 5 | Red pill isn't as manipulative as I thoughtOk, and what behavior of women can we use to judge their morality? Nail it to the wall for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 10:52 PM |
| 2 | Red pill isn't as manipulative as I thoughtThis is a good thread to address this in, but trp basically just becomes insults if you aren't mildly attractive. The original sub was to help guys just below the line, who with effort could cross the line, or already attractive guys who had their sexuality neutered by thinking they would never make the first move on a woman. But there's evo Psych in there and once we go below those mildly attractive people, it basically just becomes an encyclopedia on why you suck. Im not saying they're wrong o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/26 05:38 PM |
| 3 | We can’t moralize women’s selection of men, but we somehow moralize men’s inability to be selected.Dude is the emperor just straight up not wearing any clothes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/26 06:23 PM |
| 3 | Why do some women, especially on Reddit, instantly assume that men who simply vent about dating struggles are entitled to a relationship?Over here you'll see a wonderful example. Ahh yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/26 05:34 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesSee you only care about "beating" me in this argument. I'm not a virgin, I've never dated one, and I don't want to get married. My point is everyone 30 yrs ago understood why the old people said what they did. The old people hadn't acted the right way either. Its just what adults tell kids. To be better. I didn't follow all the rules. But at least I knew why wisdom was wisdom. People were hiding it. Now they're blatant. I think that's worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 10:54 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesThis just feels like you being upset at the conclusion I reached and typing out a few sentences to attempt to stab out at me. It's insane that people from only 30 yrs ago would have understood why "Maybe because the other loser only met her once, and she just happened to be in a mood for sex that time?" was against the hedge TO MAKE their marriage special. It doesn't mean you've found the one. It doesn't mean it's gonna work. It was a bet that they wanted to give their marriage as much value as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 08:17 PM |
| – | Women are attracted to assholes and players so they’re the only ones to blame for their outcomesIt's only, only, if she wants to be your special one and has allowed other guys to treat her as a throw away sex option. It bothers us when we get home and your in an ugly mood, but the less important people in your life got better treatment. "Waaahhh but I'm tired at the end of the day. Life isn't easy. Sometimes I'm in a bad mood." Unless the losers got the bad mood too why would I care what the argument is. I get worse, he gets better. Gonna whine about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/26 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Its not That Red pill is "Controlling" or even Wrong. They just want it silenced and snuffed out. as well as unselected menTo OP's point, do people not think it'd be easier to regulate this stuff if it didn't have to happen on the black market? If this stuff was more out in the open and understood, and not in some floofy way but as a harsh truth, then you could more effectively stomp out the harmful version. The resistance is to blame for the degradation of the message. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Women Keep Bringing Up Rape to Shut Down Male ConcernsI just read a reply earlier here that illustrated why this is hard to nail down. The first response was slightly combative. When the reply deftly shut it down, the next reply became capitulating, but brought up male violence and rape to "win" even though ground had been ceded. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/26 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Men Shouldn't Complain About Being Locked out of Casual Sex if They Think it's bad for WomenLook I disagree but that was a hell of a reply. I think all your answers are genuine attempts. Maybe I disagree but bravo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Men Shouldn't Complain About Being Locked out of Casual Sex if They Think it's bad for WomenWell, I must say, I'm so starved that I will gladly accept that concession and say I have a lot of respect for that. It's not the worst point that we simply aren't speaking your language and must do work to get past that. However, for whether or not a woman should be president, it should be relevant that she might misinterpret geopolitical machinations if they were said in a less than cordial tone. That is not a weakness we'd let an important man walk around with. It's simply not an acceptable e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/26 02:19 AM |
| 6 | Men Shouldn't Complain About Being Locked out of Casual Sex if They Think it's bad for WomenShould people be brave enough to say stuff like this out loud? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/26 08:14 PM |
| 5 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?Well I'm on your side as far as a real virgin goes. That just feels foreign to who we all are in this century. I don't want to deal with anyone who has hang ups from being ruled over in some authoritarian religious household either. But this sidesteps that women sleep with the guys who've already slept around. Women sleep with the same guy their friends have. That's not an accident. It happens because women like guys who are "approved" of. So we can complain about that all we want. If I've slept… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 04:31 AM |
| 1 | If men prefer women under 25, what women expected to do about it?The issue isn't simply aging. It is guys ONLY getting you past 25. If you are beautiful and you cohort yourself how guys want you to, then you can marry or wait and it's no big deal. But what guys describe here, in admittedly crude ways, which is your guys problem anyway, is that we don't want an older woman WHO "ALREADY HAD HER FUN." It's not hard to understand. If a man got the best of you, or the best anyone got, he will be in the wrong for leaving. Trp would back up a good woman here. The is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/26 02:41 AM |
| -1 | women on reddit are very much part of the problemWhat do you mean I might not get my way? How did you even get that thought out? Everyone always agrees with me and stops pushing back when I start looking a little flustered..." Women are the equivalent of that saying, "if the porn is free, then you the viewer are the product." If women are being "yes man'd" all the time then no one is taking your opinions seriously. They're just getting what they want out of you and walking off to do it again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/02/26 07:28 PM |
| – | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?Well if we land there that's fine. I'm a rationalist. I'm tall, so girls came up to me and asked me out when I was younger. Several times. I'm no incel. As women know, the double edged sword of being asked out is the person is usually shooting their shot upward, and so I was able to end all my relationships as I've never been with someone I couldn't do without. So I get the female perspective. It's just less ugly when I, as the man, can tease these women and be less than enamored with them, beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 12:49 AM |
| – | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?It's just a clear market system. At the top is some small percentage of men. Handsome men and men with cool jobs. Below that are the hottest women. Below them are the avg women who can get action from guys above them, but without commitment. Below them are avg guys, and whatever women can't get action. There is a large cohort of those men, not the top ones, who will end up with a woman someday. The likelihood is that the woman took a few swings at the guys who wouldn't settle down. I would like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/26 12:02 AM |
| – | Do women really sleep with the “hot guys” first and marry the average ones later?Step 1: It's not really happening Step 2: Yeah, it's happening, but it's not a big deal Step 3: It's a good thing, actually Step 4: People freaking out about it are the real problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/26 07:28 PM |
| – | Genuine question , what do men get out of this sub or subs similar to this.There's a carl jung quote: "Loneliness does not come from having no people around you, but from being unable to communicate the things that seem important to you." I think that's the real male lonliness epidemic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/26 02:36 AM |
| 1 | Men shouldn't take dating advice from women (on the internet)The trouble with this is that it's unverifiable. If the guy were to go back up to those women and ask why the women didn't ask for his number, they will not answer with the answers your female friend gave. Then, if you went up with the answers, "Am I correct in thinking that guy in the red shirt has your attention instead?" She will obfuscate and say, "No, no, I'm just in a weird mood tonight." Or something. If you said, "I don't need a woman for this. I get women." He will never be able to be s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/26 02:32 AM |
| 6 | The Manosphere does not care about men's issues: Bi-men editionThey have no actual concern about bi men or biphobia, they just want an excuse to attack women. Correct. When did they ever say they gave a shit about any of that? If anything this is a misunderstanding of whether trp is a political movement or just a way for guys to get laid. I never expected any help from them as a straight guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 04:21 AM |
| 5 | The Manosphere does not care about men's issues: Bi-men editionFair, why don't you understand that many of us do not believe being a hypocrite actually matters to the info. If Charles Manson or Hitler tell you that murder is wrong, they are correct. If you bring up that they are hypocrites you are adding unnecessary info. The info about how women treat bi-men is a huge sign as to how much they walk the walk that they talk. If a roving band of raping maniacs wants to use that info to make a point, the point should be confronted on its merits. Otherwise, you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/26 02:34 AM |
| 1 | The Orgasm Gap is real... but it has NOTHING to do with male selfishness.Most guys are not good at fucking. I do believe this, but also, the hierarchy of men is set along the physical fitness parameter more than women's. Whereas the most physically fit man can provide an experience with stamina and strength that other men objectively cannot, if a woman is really impressed with a Beiber type guy, then she'll orgasm. I'm saying their lying. Or delusional. They think they want to have sex with basketball players but they're not actually trying to burn the most calories … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 11:53 PM |
| 1 | The Orgasm Gap is real... but it has NOTHING to do with male selfishness.See I think you're both side stepping past what women want. Emotions. Chemicals. A "story". I don't think there's very much of anything that we have in common. Men want to be the biggest, strongest, most impactful sexually. Women want the man to be impressive to others and to desire her uncontrollably. I think when women say they care that you're big, it's because not every guy is big and women can gossip and compare and FEEL better because her guy is big. The ones who don't get their cervix pou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/26 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Guys simply need to stop listening to online discourse that is largely driven by women and simpsAs someone who kinda thinks the whole point of the uncomfortable truth narrative is that you never pull back, do you have some examples of what you were able to shave off? Like if you're married you MUST still believe in shit tests? Solopsism? How group thinky they can be. Did you see this video the other day of a girl betting her guy she can swing higher. He films her. No form, no real athletic prowess. Clips to him, he's going obviously higher. She laughs when she reacts and says, " I know how… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/26 01:39 AM |
| 0 | The truly romantically lonely women are rarely "happily single"The point is that women benefit from appearing to be okay with being single. It makes them seem unbothered by trps complaints. It is a bit too convenient that when women seem to be alone or making their own tick toks, they talk about being lonely a lot. But when a man says, "I've got an interesting point...." they allllll of a sudden form a united front. Maybe it's true. I believe in most possibilities, and I don't always trust myself or my senses. I am open-minded and willing to believe I'm wro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/25 05:29 AM |
| 1 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionYea and I am sympathetic to those people. I'd sit down and listen. As a taller guy who's had several gfs I am not here because nothing works. I'm here because awful shit works and its not that I want women to change to date me, I want them to be better humans for me to exist amongst. And you are correct, mostly that 20%. So yes, I do think the non-hawt should get their justice as we were raised to see people for their character and not only care about the superficial. BUT this place is for discu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 06:41 PM |
| 4 | The impetus for self-improvement does not matterJordan peterson used to point this out. How if you were on an island alone, eventually you'd go crazy. Now regardless of why, one aspect would be, without anyone else to bounce ideas off of, and other people to go, "no dude that's stupid." we sometimes cannot keep ourselves sane. Without other minds to reflect back at you, you cannot sure up unknown ideas. So if women or polite society refuses to let us talk about something, we will most likely be terrible AT IT. It's important to realize that t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 04:25 AM |
| 8 | People are frustrated because they're essentially wasting their prime years without intimacy and romantic affectionThis is true for some smaller section of the lonely. But there is a sizeable portion that simply have become addicted to being a consumer, commodifying every aspect of their lives, AND then becoming upset that they can't buy Love & Happiness. It's that we're spoiled. People become addicted to dopamine hits. Shopping and getting packages gives a lot. Scrolling and getting likes and views gives dopamine. It's all addiction to getting new stuff. Seeing new things. And so you have people who see oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/25 02:31 AM |
| – | Current dating is unfair for men because of woman have rid themselves of the responsibility that comes with the privileges they have, while men still have to still take on the responsibilities of theirsYea I upvoted that post until you made me realize they did not understand what they had said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/25 12:39 AM |
| 3 | Why do women say men are single because they are bad/misogynistic. But tons of bad and misogynistic men have tons of women?Sure, and that sort of logic should work for children when you say, "why don't you just get 3 regular size pixie sticks. You don't need the 3 ft one." And they go, "there aren't consequences for me!" Because they're children and it's a little extra sugar. But as an adult. As a sentient creature. The only species we've ever known. On our pale blue dot. You do need to contend with the fact that your actions are shallow, selfish, and self destructive. That is not something you can look your child i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/25 02:38 AM |
| 8 | Are there viral Blue Pill dating experiments?The fact that these people live in the same world as us but don't even blink when someone says, "what do you mean? All the open minded reasonable people in academia wouldn't hinder rp science being conducted. All the women in academia would be totally fine with results that went against their expectation." is driving me insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 10:54 PM |
| 7 | The red pill is driving women away from men and is central to why modern dating sucksCorrect. Just like OP claiming this doesn't make it true. "Until the current trends towards popular misogyny are reversed, men will continue to struggle with dating, and increasingly (and understandably) so." "Unless men are good little boys who sit still in their chairs and raise their hands to speak then they won't get what they want. How hard is that to understand?" That's what this is. We don't believe it. Watch what women do, not what they say. I just watched a YouTube short of a women expl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 07:35 PM |
| 1 | Men rarely if ever care about birthrates and childbearing irlTrps argument is that at the top of the hierarchy are a few select men. Below those men are the most desirable women. Below them are avg women. And then avg men followed by the less desirable. So if fewer men are what women desire, there exists the possibility that there are many men out there who wish to be married, it would benefit them, but yet at the same time, you see many women who are forlorn about their prospects for marriage. It all makes sense if everyone is looking up the hierarchy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/25 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Women associating the male loneliness epidemic with violence is just a smoke screen, and tactic use to shame men back into adhering to traditional masculinity.I saw a video today. A woman and her friend were in their car, and the topic was, "men who have reached 40 and never been married or cohabitated are red flags." Something like that. No really bad words or insulting language. Now one could go on and on the normal rp rant about that attitude. But you'd be missing the point. These women likely know or just left an event with a specific near 40yr old man, and they are teasing him. They liked him. And either they're upset that he didn't get their num… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/25 02:34 AM |
| 0 | Expecting your date to state their ultimate intentions with you on day 1 is WILDLY unrealistic.Hah! If a woman ACCEPTS a man saying he "doesn't know what he wants in his life," then she actually is attracted to him. If any guy does not know what he wants in his life by the time hes in his 20s, he has nothing to offer and is plain and simply just another knuckle head. This is the guy they berate for the rest of their lives because he isn't the other guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/25 11:55 PM |
| 7 | What are the main ways in which men are lacking these days which is causing them to stay perpetually single?As a rp guy, I've never understood this. It's one of the few points I will concede on here. I've known guys who do this. Decent looking gf, she treats him well, their situation isn't shit, and he neglects giving her a smile when he gets home, doesn't show excitement to be around her. Won't get off the couch to stand by her and ask a few questions about her day. I'm fit, and I've never had trouble with sex within a relationship. I always wanted it to fall back on the fitness as the other guys I k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/25 01:36 AM |
| – | Women either can't tell the difference between good men and bad men or men are just being paranoid/irrational about approaching women. Can't have it both ways.This isn't the worst attempt at reframing I've seen around here. I'd be willing to entertain the idea as long as you're willing to acknowledge that a lot of the abuse and violence that the other side uses ALSO comes from the demo you're talking about. Wiping away the arguments we both get from the streets where police spend all their time on domestics would whittle down these convos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/25 04:23 AM |
| 3 | The idea that older men dating younger women are losers - is a woman's revenge fantasy.This happens a lot here. As is being pointed out to you, this is simply a point to be made. It is a truth. Men point at it to relay the truth to others. But because trp is seen as an adversary. Something to be beaten. This is a fight to win. With tactics. The ends might justify the means. You are saying, "these dweebs aren't being insightful. They're selfish children like the rest of us and simply want what they desire and will say anything to get it. We can't take their arguments at face value!… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/25 04:23 PM |
| 2 | What women don’t understand about male nature: you likely AREN’T your boyfriend’s typeThat is entirely unfair to what the above comment layed out. Does this need a mod to intervene? We do not have a proper debate sub here. "Well you used logic and a nice metaphor to explain that, but I just don't feeeeeeel like it's nice enough for me to say to friends and relatives aloud...so nah." But these things are not really the point of being married. This is where feelings people go. "Well idk about those facts and that thinking. This person accepted me. So whatever." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/25 04:25 AM |
| 5 | Why do women claim "personality matters most" but then act revolted when they see a mid to ugly looking guy with a beautiful woman?It means that the giant cohort of non children women and non granny women are ACTUALLY capable of having an ugly opinion. That if a majority of women decide to start judging men based on their height then we have to entertain the idea that women can be toxic and shallow en mass. Not just brush it aside. "That's like 5 people on 4chan." That you don't ALWAYS get to hide behind being better humans than us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/25 11:55 PM |
| 4 | What women say they want in dating is the complete opposite of what they're attracted to."Looks don't matter" ... they do, but not to the extent of "you need to be chad to get laid". This is in line with everything else about default normie life, the blue pilled. It's a different version of the US code for assault. My rights end where my fist meets your nose. Here it is, "your facts & opinions matter until you become mean or insult someone." So it becomes, "Looks matter. But not enough that anyone is a bad guy. They matter right up until the point that anything negative can be read … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/25 01:24 AM |
| 3 | Male vs Female Mating Strategy Is Really Younger vs Older Mating StrategyWe don't think she's pretending. We think women are attracted to a type of guy that has lots of options. Thus, it makes sense that many of those women will not get married to those guys. Many of us men would like casual sex. But it only goes to a smaller proportion of men. We see this and realize there is a judgment taking place. Then, a much larger percentage of people get married. And usually at a chubbier, less athletic time in their lives. And then many end up having less sex in a marriage. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/25 01:29 AM |
| 0 | Females Use Good Guys For Bailouts From Bad DecisionsWhat it proves is that women will say ANYTHING besides what makes them look manipulative, shallow, "bad", etc. She waffled, "well my guy is attractive to me. All the ones I dated, were attractive to me!" And that is the rub. To you. She specifically avoided saying, "objectively". And you almost got to that. But that is what we run up against here. The men who aren't incels are discussing thin, attractive, 20 something women, and how to get them. The women here are our moms and aunts comforting t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 03:25 AM |
| 12 | Would you date a 35 year old woman who is otherwise your looksmatch?Is this content less rhetoric or a circle jerk? Sometimes I can't tell. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/25 01:25 AM |
| 0 | A man’s ability to attract women has nothing to do with whether or not he’s a good personGreat example of a strawman here | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/25 10:53 PM |
| – | Women and sex are not your reward for working and contributing to societyThis is why op is wrong. When I was able to sleep with many attractive women, it told me I was doing things right. But when I wasn't able to attract women, it was telling me, I'm doing things wrong. They don't want the nuts and bolts visible. It's apple users vs android. Women want to believe the stars aligned and that's why they're together. The guy knows it's because he got a promotion last year and stopped putting women on a pedestal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/25 10:55 PM |
| 5 | Women gaslight men cause women gain nothing from admitting truth to men, and it would cost them many simps/orbiters.I would argue that an important aspect of this is being willing to sit down with the commentor above you's thoughts and simply accept them as a possibility. You've done that to some extent. My point is, how often do women do that? The next time she gets played, was she at least worried this guy might be just blowing smoke up her ass? Back before online dating was so big, the narrative from women was, "there is something too calculating and cold about online dating. I want to at least pretend tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/25 12:35 AM |
| 3 | If a good personality is not about morality but about sociability, then why are unsuccessful men automatically classified as misogynists?If nothing negative occurs then we usually all understand that if someone is capable of being the adult and voicing the concerns of negative behavior or reactions, once the misunderstanding is cleared up, no one has done anything wrong, then the person who assumed negative behaviors, politely and simply because of protocol, apologizes for misinterpreting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/25 05:39 PM |
| – | What is the motive behind telling men to be kind and it will improve their dating chances?You're talking to mothers. Mothers always give us a rosy view of this stuff. Even if you manage to show one of them a woman explaining all this stuff, "ok well, but you don't have to be like that. You can still find a good woman." They just want grandchildren and for everyone to get along in a neutered fashion. When you continue to needle them, they'll just get frustrated and treat you as the bad guy, not the subject at hand. Enjoy the decline. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/25 01:36 AM |
| 12 | A lot of men who complain about attractive men being assholes and still getting laid are themselves bad men who wish they didn’t have to act like a good person in order to get laid.It also plays into how they "have matured as they age," and all those experiences "educated" them on what they want, and it helped them "find" who they truly are. So that now that your objectively attractive fiance says she's not settling for you, she just happened to never choose a guy like you before now. There isn't any judgment by women. It's about personality. "There's nothing to notice. Stop noticing. There's nothing to this. Stawp it!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/25 06:29 PM |
| 1 | If a woman genuinely likes a man, she'll make it easy for him.They are technically correct that there are societies with those norms. They are incorrect that those women don't still throw themselves at guys they want to. It probably just needs to be hidden or the penalty is death or something else awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/25 03:18 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Inter-sex Resentment Is Caused (at least in part) By How Both Sexes Have Irrational/Contradictory Desires For The OtherThis was an old(2016ish) talking point of Jordan peterson. He'd bring up the pareto distribution. It is a probability distribution law that attempts to explain a lot of naturally occurring phenomena. "In hydrology the Pareto distribution is applied to extreme events such as annually maximum one-day rainfalls and river discharges." There's a huge list on the wiki that mentions the distribution between towns and cities, the value of oil reserves(many small, few very large). Peterson used to point … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/25 01:33 AM |
| – | Young men are radicalized into the manosphere by what WOMEN say in progressive spaces.That's just a politer way of saying the same thing. No one is owed sex or romance, but from a biological viewpoint, "turning someone down" romantically is passing a value judgment of sorts on traits that are substantially determined by their biology. Does this get to a deeper issue we have in society. I find it in the body positivity issue. Essentially where people should be able to understand a law of thermo dynamics, we have people who don't acknowledge that they are living creatures in a worl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/25 01:39 AM |
| – | Dating for women is a swamp. Dating for men is a desert. Neither can ever sympathize with the others complaints, because we (say) we want want what the other has.We can't get to their second comment before we start nit picking exaggeration? It is very difficult to have any sort of intelligent discourse with so little benefit of the doubt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/25 12:39 AM |
| 1 | How is it not male hypergamy to expect women at their peak to pair off with undesirable men?Not to mention that trp is about uncomfortable truths. They were teaching guys to hit the gym and enjoy the decline. Were only now, years and years down the road and without the context, saying that trp wants women to settle down. We just wanted to call women out on getting played by a predictable set of guys. I don't care that they stop or choose better or any of that. I only care that I am correctly assessing the situation and women do not care about "the one" if they have a 30 body count and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/25 10:54 PM |
| 3 | What's YOUR experience with dating apps?They say it because they hooked up with a shredded guy, he doesn't commit or ghosted, and she is now thinking about him even when communicating to new guys. She's upset by him and wants him to see her living well and saying how much of a jerk he was. They see it as if you had said during your initial dating, "man I love when you wear sundresses. It's my favorite." And then when breaking up, said, "actually I was lying, you look awful in sundresses." They probably gushed to some guy, "your body i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/25 06:35 PM |
| 5 | Simple clarification about the "choose better" and the "lowering of standards".We all just spent the summer and last singing along to sabrina carpenter songs where she describes a guy not making plans with her unless they're for less than 2 hours from now. Yet every other song is about being debauchery with the next guy. There's a song about not needing to lie to girls because they'll just lie to themselves. Dua Lipas songs are about how she's been hurt and now just dances for herself and wants to see if the next guy is capable of making her "stay". Miley put out a song ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/25 02:38 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginTo be fair, I am not convinced that women This is all completely fair and true. It's less one of my main points and more of an emotion/me complaining. What is the end goal of it? A girlfriend/wife/children or sex? I've had gfs so my answer differs from an incel. I'd like a girl who has had several bfs, and was never "tricked" by a really hot or rich guy. I'd like her to have been discerning and someone I can respect as a modern woman. In case it is sex, then you want sex in order to be able to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/25 01:04 AM |
| 8 | Q4Men: choose a life: bad boy with 5 baby mamas or mild mannered virginPart of the bigger picture that even the OP is getting at, is that men who get with women who don't give them sex, haven't really got with a woman at all. There is this sort of dance that women are requiring of men, and the dance insists that you treat her a certain way to make her happy, and to make her happy, she must be treated a certain way. So men say we need to focus on sex because the women make us focus on sex or else were sub par creepy guys who "don't get it." Trust me, I'm depressed t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/25 11:55 PM |
| 1 | QUESTION FOR ALL: Do you reply to people you learnt something from on Reddit or nah?Also, there are good logical arguments for empathy in some cases. Do you admit there are times where "looking behind the curtain" is neccesary? Also, just because someone rich and famous has the ability to mistreat people or hold negative views of certain groups of people (like race or gender), doesn't make it correct. Would YOU ever allow this nfl players perspective to make you see what WE'RE saying? Because it looks exactly like we are the ones being shuffled behind the curtain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 11:55 PM |
| 0 | Sexual fidelity to your partner and sexual satisfaction from your partner should be considered a zero sum system.Well, I also don't think we're the Supreme Court. Nothing we say here matters and I'm not holding someone to their "most pathetic" criteria. I wasn't a fan of it. But you acting as if that matters is waffling. Who cares about the language we use or when you caught someone else in something. Deal with me. We're all gonna forget this tomorrow. Answer my questions or go do whatever you should be doing with your life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 04:09 AM |
| -1 | Sexual fidelity to your partner and sexual satisfaction from your partner should be considered a zero sum system.No, that I didn't understand from them. I'm with you on that critique. I don't think it helps you dodge mine, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 02:39 AM |
| -7 | Sexual fidelity to your partner and sexual satisfaction from your partner should be considered a zero sum system.THIS IS WHY WOMEN WON'T FUCK YOU IN THE FIRST PLACE. Look at the ZERO karma of your OP and take a hint. Fuck's sake! The most toothless of critiques. We need to make it understood these are pathetic ways to comport yourself around here. "You're on the ppd debate sub arguing for the Red Pill! You're arguing against women. And that's mysoginy. So you're wrong. Why would you try and argue for mysoginy? You always lose that way. You'll never get any upvotes if you aren't nice to woman. Jeez it's obv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/25 02:28 AM |
| – | Women can expect men to take responsibility for themselves and not be man haters.Language games are silly. Women always the way you said it" when what really bothered them was the content. "I like a woman who takes care of herself" Right. This is one of the reasons I'm here. They comment when we're alone that they're glad I'm tall or that they can wear heels. And fine, feel that way, but couldn't they have complimented that it was impressive how i pointed out an obscure constellation? Or they quietly make some derogatory comment about a toupee or "creepy" guy in an attempt t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/25 07:16 PM |
| 2 | The fat acceptance movement is not a big deal. Too many people are obsessed with hating it.Where has this rhetoric been all my life? Do you have friends and family who listen to you? I think calvin and hobbes is the only other place I've ever felt this energy was. Using big words and ranting about how people don't demand more from themselves. Don't grab life by the horns. It's very depressing to realize you're the big bad meanie because you started a rant like yours only to realize that people don't think you want better for them. Their only take away is you think you're smarter than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/25 08:32 PM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on Fujoshi?You have to meet immigrant parents in the US. I've known a few where their kids appreciate the parents' culture and maybe know their language. But the us culture is powerful. Lots of fomo. I know a mom who tells me her daughter stops her mid sentence if she speaks Spanish, and goes, "i speak english". She smiled and laughed, telling me, and I wasn't always perfectly respectful of my parents growing up, but oof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/25 03:41 PM |
| 9 | Women can be attracted to you but until they see another girl interested have no interest in pursuing or being receptive to engaging with youHey hey woah, am i allowed to use this sort of logic against the blue pilled here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/25 06:37 AM |
| – | Please explain more about "I want women to be honest about their preferences"I watched a video the other day about dating meetups in China. The same thing is happening over there. Some guy went, women over 40, were hassling him to get with them. Saying he shouldn't want younger women. She has all the experience he needs. Blah blah blah, ALLLL the same stuff we hear. Another guy in china's comments were, "it's like going to a vegetable market where the vegetables are the old ones. Bruised and soft. Yet the women still demand a quality guy with financial stability. The com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/25 01:37 AM |
| -2 | Women often make exaggerated inferences based on arguments made by “incels” to confirm to themselves men are crazier than they really are.You ever hear about how they tried to get rid of rabbits or mice or whatever in Australia, and it just progressively gets worse as each succession of animals don't return the system to normal. I feel like that what's this opinion is. The rp thinks it's found an issue with women. We are attempting to explain ourselves and sus out the issue. Everyone else, suffering from the women are wonderful in group bias, goes, "well everyone is bad. Both sides do it. Obviously. That's nature. Nothing is out o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/25 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Women Aren't Going to Openly Discuss and Comment About the 20+ Short Term Relationships She Had, But It's Significantly More Common Than BPs Want to AdmitYour previous comment: I know plenty of girls who graduated from college at around 22 who had a count less than 4. A lot of them followed the same pattern. Had a boyfriend or two in high school, Suddenly she's 22-23, single This was a fairly common pattern I saw after graduation. Then: It's funny because red/black pill guys talk a lot of the single girls I knew in college had the same type of rotation of a few guys. This should be obvious, but it doesn't seem to be for a lot of guys. First girls… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/25 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Empathy gap is real: Mother attempts to murder-suicide her son, people go, "Awww, poor women." If the perpetrator was a father, people would go, "Men are evil"This is on topic to something I would like to discuss. I'm not super intelligent so if anyone can expand this idea out further, please do. I just watched a Better Bachelor video on dating in China and how even dating events over there have feminism and trp ingrained in them. The women are demanding, over 30, and competitive. And the men describe not showing up because any man who is successful with women will already have access, and any man who shows up to the event will require help with women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/25 06:53 PM |
| -2 | Women On Reddit Chase Validation and Attention By Stating an Exception to an Obvious TruthUmmm I wasn't being that shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 01:34 AM |
| -1 | Women On Reddit Chase Validation and Attention By Stating an Exception to an Obvious TruthYeah but the point is that women on this subredddit aren’t receiving validation and attention from men. They're getting validation from virtue signaling. The consensus among the BP is that trp is a hateful mysognistic loser club and if they've ever been right about anything it's the broken clock thing. I don't and wouldn't hang out in a neo nazi place regardless of how often I get to clown on them. If we're sooooooooo deplorable, and we don't seem to be changing our minds, then you can only conc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/25 01:24 AM |
| 2 | As a woman, I really don't get the logic behind "I got used for sex"I do agree with your statement in a vacuum, but the comment above you didn't require you to stipulate that he isn't giving you knowing smiles and making the right jokes. You've giggled and smiled back in the right ways. You have a good point. But can you say you weren't doing the thing where when trp describes something, you women go, "well I wouldn't be interested in a short fat balding loser who only knows how to stutter about anime." And it's like... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/25 02:35 PM |
| 0 | As a woman, I really don't get the logic behind "I got used for sex"Especially because the opposite inference is there as well. If they enjoy sex and it's just sex, then why isn't it being shared with decent men who aren't Adonises? Because it's just like having a catch and going sailing, right? Same as once you're married. "How come we never use our free dopamine buttons anymore? Well, my emotional needs aren't being met." Why not just enjoy this next half hour? And then deal with your emotions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/25 02:26 PM |
| 0 | Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behaviorHowever, if we take the logic of "if [group] experiences X, that means they must be attracted to X," it should hold true for every scenario. Ok, and I understand you disagree with this, but our whole point is that the women ARE uniquely in a position to be abusing privilege and power, and it is not mirrored in everything else. I watched a skit on YouTube the other day. From normies. Where a girl tells her bf she wants to open up the relationship. He doesn't want to, but she tip toes around being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behaviorWhich is what is being said, which is allowing for these things to keep happening. Oh I was just supposed to let this go? Me going to my job, shopping for dinner, and watching a football game "is allowing for these things". Sounds like you're trying to get me arrested. No, lame guys were just as lame to me. And so I left them alone. Which is precisely our criticism. Why are you hanging out with them? Lusting after them. It's despicable. You enable them much more than we do. And duh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 02:05 PM |
| 1 | Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behaviorYou don't think there's a relevant difference between, "it's none of my business" and "yea but I didn't do it, I wasn't there, and I've never met either of you. So, no, I'm not taking the blame." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 01:52 PM |
| 0 | Nearly every woman has been in an abusive relationship, yet they still claim they aren’t drawn to toxic behaviorThis is not a helpful way to interact. Your top comment was a good one. But it just seems like an outlier to me. Or bad luck. Regardless, you got a point from me. But this is petty. The women around here don't neeeeeed to win their arguments by explicitly tearing the men down. "The only way we win is if we get to spit in their faces while doing it." Come on. This argument is exactly the same if I say that CLEARLY everything you guys are is about being beautiful. Beauty is fitness. Well I can't e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/25 01:40 PM |
| 2 | The double standard around promiscuity will persist as long other gender-based differences in expectations are upheld (courtship expectations, as just one example)Do I actually need to wade through the threads from the last few days, search for the 4 or 5 comments from clones of yours where they express how, "narcissists don't just out themselves right away!" "Manipulators aren't that stupid guys, duh!" Or can we wait until the following weeks batch? But don't worry, no one will date me because of my attitude. If I didn't have such a toxic attitude, everything would be fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/25 11:29 PM |
| 1 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.Welp I can't argue with any of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 11:45 PM |
| 2 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.I have never met a woman who admitted to Well that's kinda the whole bag here for me. Whether consciously or unconsciously, I believe most of what is occurring, being examined, and then experienced resentfully here is people not being honest about the feelings which helped determine their choices. The scenario where a guy flies a woman across the country to use her and kick her out sounds like incel fantasy to me. Those were 2 separate scenarios one that dunked on a guy, and another where a woma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 09:23 PM |
| 3 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.I don't understand this part of the argument. this idea that girls don't debase themselves for hot guys, we all acknowledge that men would do it for hot women. You've never had a girl in your friend group who was being used by a guy? We're not saying it's good. If we got that girl, we'd put in the work. But it's weird to think the hot people amongst us never step on or degrade the rest of us. And we willingly accept it. I can find you a video of a girl admitting she flew across the country on a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 06:37 PM |
| 8 | Modern dating and relationship culture puts the burden of good sex entirely on men, and according to this narrative a woman can never be bad at sex, only uninterested.What does that mean? They are suggesting that they specifically can do nothing to enjoy their sexuality. It is of no importance to them. You seem to have insinuated that ACTUALLY it's a dig at men and their deficiencies. That they are lacking in some area, and if they weren't, then maybe this woman, and "MANY women" would suddenly have more sex? Do you believe that poster was describing their specific inability to value sex, or that women like her, are giving husband's the cold shoulder because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/25 06:28 PM |
| 4 | If you have no kids, there´s honestly no reason not to leave your boring, unappealing husband/boyfriend and seek a better lifeThey didn't insult you directly or use harsh language. This IS the focus of this debate sub. If you're only here to say nice things about your relationship and pat other "nice" people on the back about theirs, then you are the one without the ability to discuss the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 03:46 PM |
| 0 | If you have no kids, there´s honestly no reason not to leave your boring, unappealing husband/boyfriend and seek a better lifeI see it more having to do with. The OP. Where shame some reason was invoked. Maybe you're right ad they're boring. But you should have to be an adult about it and openly tell people, "yea not only do I not want what I have, which I'm sure I've impressed upon family and friends a few times, how magical my marriage is, but I also, am leaving because of cheap thrills and instant gratification. My husband seemed capable of being decent, kind, supportive, and intelligent, all while financially provi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/25 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, women are bad at taking initiative.Just a thought experiment. Which one "grabs" us more? Which will lead to more fun? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/25 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, women are bad at taking initiative.See I think men would follow someone who insults as long as they're competent and successful. Results and merit are suuuuper always on my mind as a guy. I assume a real tough question for men is, "would you rather have a young beautiful wife who loves you? Or the best crew of 7-8 guys are all incredibly competent, loyal, and dangerous?" The boy in me lights up at picking the gang. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/25 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, women are bad at taking initiative.Look I'm not dismissing your point, but i always noticed this about little girls when we'd play together as kids. They'd try and make all these rules, and force me to follow their narrative, and then when I simply used my own imagination and did my own thing, they'd accuse me of being mean TO THEM. And they had joined my game. So my point is, how does someone not use that excuse to simply always be right? "When I'm assertive you shut me down." "Men won't listen to my ideas. They ignore me." How … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/25 03:48 PM |
| -2 | Generally speaking, women are bad at taking initiative.Don't forget that since we're bigger, we eat more, and thus, the implication HAS to be that we want women to have nothing to eat. The skinnyness in the meantime is a fringe benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/25 03:39 PM |
| – | All long-term relationships require the man to do whatever the woman wantsHey everyone! Look what happened when a guy expressed his feelings! Check out what happened! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/25 06:59 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?Fair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 06:23 PM |
| – | How can a man not feel worse when he realizes that his girlfriend/wife behaves more restrictedly and less passionately with him than with her past partners?It's not like he's describing even a dozen women. You can't believe this occurred with one woman? I mean, this subs over, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 05:59 PM |
| 0 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornIsn't this the exact same thing we men say to women? "If you ever want to "end up" with me and expect me to believe in the slightest that you're serious about all those "the one", "life's precious moments" plaques around the house, then don't sleep with a bunch of guys who clearly don't value you, before I try and value you." Whereas, as the poster above you is pointing out, it's "my past" were talking about here, and if I didn't have any claim on my future wife's past...then what did she expect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 03:42 PM |
| 7 | It’s not unreasonable to ask your partner to stop watching pornWe shouldn't cement in our minds this as the only line of thinking here. It shouldn't go RIGHT to this. Maybe he did communicate, and there's still a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/25 03:37 PM |
| -4 | Would you take a lie detector test to prove you love your partner?My remark is specific to the fact that both of you insist the conversation is about an evil man forcing some woman to have children she doesn't want, when that is irrelevant, because we're discussing a woman who presumably wants more children but gets sketchy when you ask to be the father. Of course your personal preference outweighs the hypothetical where the situation isn't weighted to make the guy clearly wrong 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 11:18 PM |
| -6 | Would you take a lie detector test to prove you love your partner?Ok, but besides that personal specification, are you saying it is beyond your ability to understand one taking offense at a romantic and hopefully sexual partner outright not wanting to procreate with you? I find this to be a growing attitude amongst western liberal women. Can a father be upset that his well raised and loved daughter wishes to be a stripper? Who cares if your significant other spits out her drink and coughs when you ask if she'd like any more kids. You don't have dignity. I just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/25 10:28 PM |
| 5 | If you cant admit you want a hookup, dont get angry you cant get immediate sex from your date.This is a strawman. It's beyond clear that we always present the issue as OTHER guys (chad) are doing this to women and we do not want the women once they've learned the lesson. Fucking duh but every man in this thread so far admits they deceive women to get sex, while blaming women who learn a lesson from lying men and decide to take more time before sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/25 05:27 PM |
| 6 | Male mental health and victim blamingI find this relevant to ppd. Can we convince you that it might have been best to pontificate upon, "men not being able to be vulnerable with women" without using a very specific example from your life, where a man acted in specifically a way not deserving of any respect or empathy? That just shot down the discussion right away because it's like, "Well, the ones who've tried with me were cretins, so that's a weird topic to bring up." I would hope, that you believe we're not completely stupid, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/24 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Changing the genders in the stories gives you different answers from womenHas anyone else noticed the stories on the am I the asshole subreddit, where its like what you've described, a guy who doesn't want a vasectomy, but then it comes out in the comments that he keeps his wife in the house and has forced her to have 9 kids. It's like normal dudes don't even exist. Because we don't post about our lives, the only thing I've seen from normal dudes was that meme of guys being like, "there's no one for me to call. No one cares." I think avg girls are portrayed better onl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/24 03:46 PM |
| 0 | The Red Pill perpetuates itself by setting men up to failPlans are worthless, but planning is everything. while a specific plan might not always work out as expected due to changing circumstances, the process of planning itself is crucial for understanding a situation, identifying potential challenges, and setting a direction to move forward; essentially, the value lies in the thought process behind creating a plan, not necessarily the plan itself. Meaning: The idea is that even if a detailed plan needs to be adjusted based on new information, the act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/24 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Men and loveThere could be many reasons for that, As long as you all acknowledge that YOU specifically do not accept our reason. It's like the exact same issue. You don't view our perspective as one even deserving of attention, and then go, "you're not considering all sides of this." the majority of them have to do with your outlook on life or how you responded This is such an overused retort around here. It's our attitude. Not any of the real world actions that are occurring. No, oddly enough, despite thou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/24 05:51 PM |
| -2 | Let's talk about age gap relationships, specifically when the woman is the younger party.So is this an example of something I'm able to judge these women for? If she tells me she was foolish enough to subject herself to this, at 18, can I judge her on her past actions this time? Because you seem to think she's made the incorrect choice as well. Am I able to judge it as you do? To find it distasteful in an SO? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/24 05:55 PM |
| 1 | People are so weird when it comes to the porn industry and it just makes them sound weak or insecure about sex and their own sexualityI'm sure that's happened for a few guys. But I sorta can't believe you can type all that out, know how women feel about and talk about these icks, and then it's like, "yea I'm sure there's all these marriages where the wife finds out that her guy can't get it up. And then she finds out it's because of HOW MUCH or what kind of porn he's watching, and then quitting just makes her happy, and everything goes back to normal. Better even." I'm here specifically because I see value in exploring the rou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 08:54 PM |
| 5 | People are so weird when it comes to the porn industry and it just makes them sound weak or insecure about sex and their own sexualityWith the state of fitness in the US and the type of sex I assume that out of shape and flabby people have, there is this HUGE part of the ED thing that you can't convince me isn't just people preferring not to have sex with their partners. Add on all the struggles of daily life and compound that with how rare it is for the "system" to be honest with women. There is no part of me that thinks a researcher has the balls to ask women, "Should he have got an erection?" Sure, it might be the porn or a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/24 03:42 PM |
| 1 | A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're averageFair, definitely using sarcasm to bolster your point. As long as you're not "nice". Being nice is corporate. I'm down with assholes. (Not sarcasm) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 05:58 PM |
| 11 | Why does the perception that "most men are physically unattractive or below average" exist among women?Her worldview gets reinforced by men who are incentivized to tell her what she wants to hear because he's getting the milk for free. Off topic rant: "the guys who sleep with me never say any of the things you weird internet guys say, so they must all ACTUALY truly believe all the smoke they blow up my ass, and only basement dwelling jerks think mean rp boy thoughts. Hawt guys never seem to say any of that stuff. They're always so playful and agreeable. Beforehand, I mean...what's que bono?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 05:51 PM |
| 3 | A woman with a promiscuous past or present who treats you like a king is 100x better than a rigid, traditional prude who treats you like you're average"You red pillers just love espousing such stupid drivel. It's almost sad how obviously wrong all your ideas are!" "What do you mean all of my arguments are exactly precisely in line with my benefit? I don't like the tone you're using, which is ultimately more important anyway. You're clearly insecure." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/24 03:43 PM |
| 14 | Too many men destroy their own confidence. They’re too convinced that everything is against them, and it hurts their dating chances.There's a lot of plausible deniability in this. They just want guys "who get it". So thinking about it, or showing you've thought about it, is a detriment. If you say no for any logical thought out reason, "you're taking it too serious and thinking too much. You should be in the moment." There is a lot of this that makes it so that any amount of forethought is seen as insecurity and creepiness. With the implication being everyone who this is working for is just doing it right. Whereas you're doi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/24 08:12 PM |
| – | If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be?Oooh, you guys get to have logically consistent rules, but the only kind of human who serves up constructive criticism to women is an incel? Don't even need to ask any questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/24 05:47 PM |
| – | Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men.Why would a straight guy enjoying a plot that happens to contian homo eroticism be something to poke around at? This guys picking on gay shit over here!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/24 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity.Yall always jump to “she’s lying” or “she doesn’t know her own emotions” instead of believing what’s right in front of your eyes. Didn't have to wait too long before you demonstrated that you guys are exactly the same. This isn't a dunk. I think you're explaining yourself well and are being respectful. But I could not stand by and allow you to say that we don't take you seriously with the implication being that you guys do entertain our ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/24 06:00 PM |
| 15 | Men need to be more shallow in their approach to datingHah, whereas i thought, "Your boos mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | Endless Buffet Perspective Modern Dating; It's unlikely to work for Majority of Men.It's also possible to have two different perspectives on a relationship. Just because you reduce them to transactions does not mean everyone does, nor does it mean either of us are wrong. Right but you're the one waffling on about how to feel "ok" about it being implicitly transactional. You accepted that subconsciously it is, so why not simply acknowledge it. You then can continue to be the good person you're describing. But all while being aware others aren't necessarily playing that "nice" ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/24 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?Idk what kinda tear I was on at lunch. I was admittedly a bit out of line today. My apologies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 11:00 PM |
| 5 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?I'm a little past this being a justifiable perspective to have. The women here impress upon us how early women and "decent" fathers warn you about men. If you fell for this, then it's not something to snidely use to put men down. It's something you should have learned from and maybe be a bit ashamed you ever fell for something so "surface level." Ya know, because of all the shit show that was there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?The issue is they won't let us discuss, openly, how men feel about women being able to, for sure, secure sex with guys better than you. If the women who responded first is to be believed, then don't most women have an opportunity, or several, to make sure they sleep with a guy who will be better in several metrics than the guy she "ends up with". And yet we're gaslit about asking questions about this and even caring at all. They tell us they'll lie anyway so "why even care". They know why we car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Why does it seem like women's hookup standards are higher than relationship standards?Why aren't men allowed to ask women which type they are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/24 05:41 PM |
| – | Literally no man is “mad that women can choose their partners now.” This has absolutely nothing to do with TRP or men’s frustrations whatsoever and needs to stop being used as a deflection.It makes it so idiots who know how to parrot simple taking points end up feeling empowered by any crowd that also subscribes to the agenda. So it's basically an addicting drug to fools. They feel so insecure around people who can come up with their thoughts BEFORE they speak, and use turns of phrase correctly. They get to say any word salad they choose, and then as long as they used the right buzz words, "look I'm a genius! Everyone agrees." That's gonna lead to awful places. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/24 08:14 PM |
| 0 | Red pill men want tradwives but not gold diggers?This applies equally when you flip the genders around. Women also want a man who is a team player and invested in their life. ...fine, you asked why men want a tradwife if she's also a gold digger. I said people want happy invested partners. You agreed. Women also don't like being tricked into being a slave, where they have to raise children, do housework, cook, etc. without any money that they own. I said this ISNT what any healthy man wants. He wants her to have chosen that lifestyle as well. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 07:28 PM |
| 10 | Men who’ve given up on dating, what’s the point of convincing internet strangers you made the right decision?If you want your feelings to be taken seriously, stop being nasty about them. We're meant to comply. This is not a discussion or a debate. The female imperative has never "started a conversation" that wasn't simply a veiled attempt to demand we nod and agree. When we express our thoughts and ideas here, anonymously, harmlessly online, we are told that we are the worst people. That we are the problem. That we're predators and a danger. The best thing to learn from this is to become accustomed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Red pill men want tradwives but not gold diggers?I want to make the argument that your OP is a bit of a strawman. Essentially, you made the whole scenario negative and then said, "So why would you want that?" Whereas men would like for a woman to want to be a team player and helpful and personally invested in their life together. Not tricked into being a slave. Not naive and unable to think for themselves or be manipulated. A happy and willing partner who sees the value in a man who works and a woman who raises children and organizes a social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/24 05:22 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill Means You Pull the Wool Over Your Eyes About Women to Protect Your Own EgoThese debates aren’t about “convincing” each other of anything, they’re about examining and interpreting information. I kinda agree. I'm here trying to make sense of my ideas. Also, i buy the whole, "you can't show anyone what's outside the cave" thing. This post attacks what it considers “BP beliefs”. For a proper debate to happen, BP would then need to DEFEND those beliefs based on their merits. See here again. We don't need a proper debate. Talk to me and be charitable with my ideas. So I can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 08:09 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill Means You Pull the Wool Over Your Eyes About Women to Protect Your Own Egobut blue pill type guys seem to get mad and defend about it, say you hate women. Women don’t want to judged by men, that’s their complaint. Our argument is you have zero tolerance for criticism. Which you see as hate and mysogny. And you demonstrated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 05:55 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pill Means You Pull the Wool Over Your Eyes About Women to Protect Your Own EgoNone of what you wrote is formal a BP position. I don’t think you’d even be able to find a BP person who agrees with everything you’re accusing them of Why is this necessary? Were not lawyers or the Supreme Court. There's no pay-by-the-minute here. Just use your mind and bring up something thought-provoking. This was throwing a snowball across the aisle. I'm not more convinced of your side, and neither are you of mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/24 05:49 PM |
| 8 | Red Pill has ruined the current dating and marriage scene.And then it'll be tomorrow and we'll have convinced no one of nothing and we remain the worst people in the world because of our thoughts. Nevermind all those out there using their actions to cheat, steal, and lie to others, it's the people online and their hateful words. There is value in trp. There is value in finding things out the hard way and persevering. But we are moving backwards in this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/24 03:43 PM |
| -11 | q4w: what fundamentally logical decisions do most women demonstrate that shows they are able to choose logical decisions such as choosing one over the other (E.g. foting).That is an interesting topic on its own. But if I ask you for 5 places, the cat likes to sleep in your house, and you get all, "I mean! Can you even name 5 places you sleep?! Jeez! The gall to ask something like that." There is nothing wrong with asking about the cat. To dodge a simple question, belies your ego felt attacked and insecure, and instead of remaining in frame and simply answering the question, you let the outside know that you are too upset to simply do that. It makes it seem as if … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/24 08:31 PM |
| 5 | Men shouldn't expect to have positive relationships with women if they can't express basic empathy for themOk, that's a fair point. Are you willing to entertain that she may have been every bit of the liar WE suggested? Feels like we move off that possibility really fast around here. Her motives were, say the nice cuddly positive thing. Then it appears that at some point, she "lucked" out and got a good result. Then she continued to peddle the nice cuddly narrative, I assume, for money, so I start questioning the honesty. It's only prudent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 05:52 PM |
| 11 | The Dating Curve With All Things Equal is Just Harder for MenI think you brought all the concern to this. He simply stated it as fact. I started reading it, expecting it to be blue pilled and end with, "so stop whining men, it just is this way, and nothing can be done. So there." Essentially i think the only thing that can fairly be deduced from this is that women should have to acknowledge this stuff to claim their mature, grounded, informed individuals. This isn't an argument that women need to have sex with us. It isn't something we're gonna work ourse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?I was not pointing out that I'm sure of anything. Just that I can't trust people who's interest lies in me believing the status quo. I acknowledge that you might be right, I was simply pointing out why we can't be sure and thus it's not super reassuring. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Why do you personally hate or dislike The Red Pill?But married people are in this hostage situation where they have to say things are fine until they're not. Then once they're out they're red pilled now. So we can't logically always believe those currently in a relationship because you never know when you're talking to an already dead marriage. But yea if people were good and trustworthy, then I'd like your heuristic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/24 05:45 PM |
| -1 | What is a show of submission a woman can give to a man ?A.>so continually let you fall on your face and not point out your error B.>“Johnny, I think you missed a turn.” We've all seen A. Mom's, aunts, grandma's, sisters, friends. It's just the lazier way to be. It takes effort to remain kind and understanding and patient and humble. These are skills that must be exercised. So I'm sympathetic to decent hardworking people who drop the ball. This is why I'm afraid of A. It's too common already and women have a cultural shield, so I have trouble explaini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/24 07:16 PM |
| 13 | It doesn't make sense that men complain about promiscuous women but also complain that women's standards are too highOnly when the women turn around after having casual for several years, and then want commitment and "real men to step up." I've never once thought, "Hey, look at that street walker over there. I'm gonna give her a piece of my mind on the sexual marketplace. She isn't giving nice guys a chance!" If you are a party girl and continue that lifestyle, what do I even have to say? You'd tell me to mind my own business, and you'd be right. It is ONLY the women who pretend that she was waiting for YOU al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/10/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Do men on here understand why women follow alpha fucks and beta bucks?That's fine. As long as you did that from the beginning. If, as a 16 yr old that's your plan... then fine. We're discussing how they don't do that at the beginning, and then conveinently slide over to this utilitarian position as they get less attention from the desirable guys as a new crop of hot women matures. Essentially, we're pointing out the benefit they get while simultaneously acting as if they've grown/matured/finally realized what they wanted all along. It's a bit beyond the pale to si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/24 07:07 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: Pick 1 - great sex + bad relationship OR no sex + great relationship?Total conjecture so feel free to give me your counter points, but I think you see that from a lot of the guys BEFORE they ever discover trp stuff. There are a lot of guys, who we would call blue pilled or white knights, who DO NOT disagree with women. They support their ideas, their self destructive ways, and their politics. The kind of guy who I have personally seen end up in terrible relationships are these wusses. They believe a woman will just love them for who they are. For doing lovey dove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 04:48 PM |
| 3 | If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player?I was just dating a college educated liberal woman. She took every opportunity she could, (song lyrics, a shows plot) to roll her eyes about men. It was so off putting. We were getting along and things were fine. We hung out with her and a friend and the friend backed her up when she started going off about toxic masculinity. And nothing toxic had happened. Just brought it up. It just made me feel like she wasn't on my team. And that I'd never be accepted on her team. I don't understand how they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/24 07:14 PM |
| 2 | A root cause of the issues in dating today is that dating advice is not balanced for pro-social menBut you only theoretically need to get it right once. So if she simply waits like 5 dates with EVERY guy, then eventually she should meet one who is attractive AND is still around after 4 dates. Now, there's a possibility that it won't work out, but no one has the moral high ground to mock her for this plan. It's much less complicated than what we have to tell the guys to do. The only way you're damned here is if you have sex too fast, letting some guy take advantage of you, and that's why. Beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/24 04:55 PM |
| – | Normal men don't care about women who are attracted to terrible people.What exactly can be done to change that Do you accept that some of us are fine, date women, and occasionally are interested in discussing this sort of topic, as an interesting hobby? Because I felt that your whole comment here revolves around the idea that because men will do something awful with the conclusions they will draw here, that the thinking should be stopped. Whereas I would argue, nothing should "be done" about it and no one is "owed intimacy" but that I would like it to be seen as di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 04:57 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't attracted to their aging partnersI understand, and you do make sense. My whole point was that I notice this in myself, where as I argue, if I'm not being heard, I become less & less concerned with how I'm coming off and get more likely to straight insult you. There is context and perspective to this trp stuff. The guys were calm at one point. And the convos in the guys' only spaces are much less fiery. So I understand why women argue against the ideas that paint them in a lesser light. But I do think this aspect of , "Will any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 09:02 PM |
| 0 | Men aren't attracted to their aging partnersDo you not feel like language is what let's us down here? Asking a question with no aggressive markers. A lot of us find it frustrating Not something people say about stuff they "cannot accept". There's all kinds of exceptions and caveats, See how I'm willing to accept things. So trp guys end up screaming our points. Becoming mean and exaggerating. Trying to be reasonable to your side and admit some faults. I wanted an honest relationship where I can say, "No, you are not prettier than the day i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 07:08 PM |
| 2 | Men aren't attracted to their aging partners“a woman’s value is her youth”, Do you not feel like language is what let's us down here? Or like decency? I see a lot of posts about men trying to make a point. A lot of us find it frustrating to not be able to make the point that most people at 22 look better than they will at 32. There's all kinds of exceptions and caveats, but just about everyone in 1994 would have just shrugged and gone, "...and?" But we now live in a world where people have hours and hours after you make that point, to hem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/24 04:55 PM |
| 5 | Were you more physically attracted to your hookups/situationships/fwbs compared to your more serious partners?Maybe if we all FREAAAAAK out enough over what he said, no one will able to have hypothetical discussions as to whether or not there's merit to their conjecture. They might even vilify the guy if I start crying. It's the only thing I ever try, actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/24 09:21 PM |
| 3 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areNow, I consider insecurity weakness, and i believe there are far better ways to adress it rather then assigning prescriptions on what amount of sexual partners is socially acceptable for women. Date whoever you want, and if that is exclusively virgins, that's fine. You've just bought into this idea that women can't be wrong. "Date whoever you want." Oh, ok. "Just don't be a hypocrite about it." But not on like, which milk to buy or if newer cars are cooler. Don't be a hypocrite about women. any … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 04:12 PM |
| 6 | The reason men are so obsessed with virginity and sexual performance is because most women areThe only countries out there who don't sleep well at night are those without nukes. Well, I've got nukes, and I've used em. If you're one of these pussy countries living next to an irradiated waste land you should count your blessings and get nukes like me so you're not scared and upset. I don't understand you nukeless losers. I've got nukes and everything's fine for me. Why be afraid that you don't have nukes. Just don't upset me and recognize you're less than. It's easy. Obviously, you can liv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/24 12:50 PM |
| – | Modern women want conservative masculine men but who are politically liberal, to go along with their other long list of demands.Feel free to disagree, but in line with the solopsism idea, I've always thought it was women thinking about a specific guy who either just got away or has been missing her signals, or is with another woman, and they just are saying things they hope he hears. They love the plausible deniability of "oh I was speaking on all men," but the purpose, the goal, of these videos is so that one specific guy understands. Obviously, it's a long shot and irrational, but I'm assuming it makes them feel better… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/24 06:13 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Hooking up as a man isn’t the same as hooking up as a womanYea it's not a perfect analogy and I'm not a lawyer. None of this will go to the Supreme Court. So we can either meet each other in the middle on our arguments and attempt to learn new things from each other or we can continue this awful toxic bigoted cycle where we just hurl bullshit back and forth at one another. Your move... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 09:12 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Hooking up as a man isn’t the same as hooking up as a womanWell that's just being obtuse. I might decide to take my car out tonight, and "not care" what the cops think. But they will have every right to care more than i want them to. So I mean, it still seems that you're trying to say, "I made a point. Just because you made points against it doesn't matter. Because I think you're ugly and I don't care what you think." Do you not see how one moment we're having a debate, the next you're telling me you don't care. It's childish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 08:16 PM |
| -1 | CMV: Hooking up as a man isn’t the same as hooking up as a womanLol explain it to me then. I'm not positive I properly assessed why you made the "don't care" comment, but I think it's a dodge. Maybe it's not ego, but I was trying to point out that it isn't relevant. I saw it as an attempt to get guys upset that women "don't care" rather than have the convo be focused on what we do care about. Namely, that women not indulge in a bunch of cheap thrills and instant gratification before trying to settle down with a stable guy later on. We DO care about your yout… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 02:00 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Hooking up as a man isn’t the same as hooking up as a womanBecause it's logic. If men sleep down and women sleep up, the odds of many women having a chance to be with a guy much better than they could ever procure commitment from is great. As well, in the world where desirable men are rare, they can simply keep on not committing which means there is a large pool of women who have slept with a desirable man, but he hasn't committed. Whatever percentage of those women end up with a dad bod guy who never had much casual, we view that as settling. Because w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 12:57 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Hooking up as a man isn’t the same as hooking up as a womanThat's not the point of the comment that started this thread. They said women don't conceptualize their 20s as their prime and therefore throw them away accordingly. Then, the commentor above you explained why men don't care for this logic. "I was just finding myself. Experimenting! Me at 29 is the best me with all my anti depressants and "trauma" from past relationships! Get ready for less sex now that I know what I want!" See, we live this experience. So it doesn't seem like it is a better dea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 12:44 PM |
| 5 | Single People, Keep Other Single People Single.This gets at something important that goes on here as well. Most people talk to be titilated. They say things that they hope others will laugh at and validate. Very rarely does anyone want a conversation to become about learning a tough truth or hearing constructive criticism. Most banter is simply that. As well, most people don't make intelligent decisions on purpose. They were set up or simply followed the rules and fell into something good. So they're trying to justify their station in life a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 07:38 PM |
| 9 | People who assume romantically unsuccessful men just need to "talk to women" more are naiveWhen giving dating advice, instead of focusing on things out of your control (genetics) it’s important to focus on what you can improve (personality/grooming habits). A lot of us think this is ALL you'll ever do. You get so wrapped up in talking about personality that we get a culture where young men are stunted from accepting the hierarchy we're all born into because equalizing everyone was "better". Young people might not have to literally talk about looks and genetics if the culture wasn't so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Cold approaching women is usually taken as a compliment unless the guy is fuck ugly or disrespectfulAnd I’d find it to be a huge red flag if someone asked me if I fucked other guys quickly or made them wait. So, I mean - yes, have someone who finds you desirable for sure. But also, most women don’t have a hoe phase. It’s like 1/6 do. So if you use that standard on every woman you try to date - you’ll drive away 5 who don’t do that at all, and make every wait. I'm just pushing back on this idea that men are out of luck ever figuring out a woman's n count, so they need to forget about caring abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Cold approaching women is usually taken as a compliment unless the guy is fuck ugly or disrespectfulPeople use that m&m analogy to describe what it's like for women. "Well, any one of you might be dangerous, so I can't take that chance." You just don't appreciate the man's point of view on this. "Well, you'll never know which women are treating you as if you're just a utility, so why worry?" Guys who have no other option will take that desperate route. Guys who have options, or self-worth, will say, no, I'll just sleep with you until you find some stupid thing to get mad at me for, and then I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 01:34 PM |
| 6 | Do men just not care about being abused as much as women?See, i think this is a great example of what it means to be "blue pilled." These guys are conditioned to just take it and suck it up. . Their pov is “I may be abused, but at least i’m not single”, I see this as, "Man, she's upset a lot, but at least we're IN LOVE." This is where I see the messaging for normies fall off. All the analysis we're doing here is uncouth for normal conversation, and thus, without any red pill knowledge, men don't have the perspective to question "love" or "the woman th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 2 | Many TRPers in here have a high external locus of control, and are hypocritical about it.I literally saw a comment on here the other day, a woman complaining that they don't all just go for height and how can men just keep spewing such mysogny. And then she goes, "I don't even like dating tall guys. It becomes so awkward to kiss them. My last two bfs were 6'8" and 6'1". I didn't like it at all." And yet you dated them, and coincidentally, the last two, possibly the last all of them, were tall. They just use this place as if it's them hanging out with their girlfriends putting on mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 01:55 PM |
| 8 | Calling men "pornsick" is a distraction from the fact that social media has over-exposed women to choiceThe crux of this variable is whether those women are enthusiastic about being married to those men and if they provide a pleasant marriage experience. This is a very similar argument to men saying that women were happier in the 50s married and without jobs. The issue is how happy those marriages were & are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:47 PM |
| 14 | Calling men "pornsick" is a distraction from the fact that social media has over-exposed women to choiceI always figured guys were too shamed to discuss what they appreciate about porn. But as someone who went through a bit of a glow up and saw the differences in how women treated me, I thought porn would do the same. Women were mistrusting and took every opportunity to take shots at me when a skinny, quiet nerd. Then enthusiastic and effortless to interact with when muscular and confident. Guys complain so much about dead beadrooms that I always figured the enthusiasm in porn would prove to guys … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 2 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.Yea, I do mostly agree on their age. Or that, like, childish people have always gone for low hanging fruit. The rest of us risk being rude to these people. They don't have much else to add. 😉 But I want to ask, what do women take from "roast beef" comments? In the sense that I've never heard it from a guy disqualifying a girl because of it. He was just being crude about the act. I really didn't even assume THAT girl was being described. Just that he was a clown and needed a laugh and went for a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 12:11 PM |
| 3 | The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice.You didn't even entertain that argument. And I doubt you truly think the law isn't real. You simply side stepped and said, "Well, the cops are so mean to women who are SA'd..." Oh my gosh, I had no idea! That terrible situation has terrible side effects! I sure hope that deep, deep failure of society & figures in authority isn't used to smear me, just some person, whenever I attempt to make any amount of sense. Keep making it worse. I. Do. Not. Expect. Anything. Else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 01:31 PM |
| 6 | Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy womenThis is demonstrated more and more around here. The women would rather take a shot at us, "dunk on us," then make a point. Personally, I think it's a truism about womankind. Obviously, little girls grow up obsessed with relationships and interpersonal drama. But they have this negative reaction to us in general. They enjoy it when we fall. They like seeing us hurt. And if they can say, "Good luck ever having sex again!" , "women will definitely fuck you with that attitude." then they do it with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 11:31 AM |
| 12 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDYea, but this is literally the exact response you guys give us over the n count debates. "You won't find out, so why bother caring?" So women are just as untrustworthy. Right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 06:26 PM |
| 2 | There’s a reason why regular women do not want to date a man who has used the service of a lot of escorts, and no, it’s not just the possibility of STDMen can be calculating. I believe it's something many women desire in their man. I want to push back on this because I don't think it's happening in a vacuum. I think that all the calculations that were done above show an evolution of the dating market, which provides context for why the guy found himself in that position. You see several comments from guys explaining the use of prostitution, and they themselves say, "but I wouldn't pay for sex." So even in the guys who understand, many still fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 06:19 PM |
| – | Women have no right to complaint about men who leave for younger women..I have a sister who is divorced. My parents pretend they are catholics. It's painful to get them to admit that both partners were in the wrong. Or that an overall bad decision was made. They knee-jerk to, "Well, she wasn't happy with him." As like the end of the discussion. They give this dead behind the eyes, "That should be good enough for you." look. When I point out they had vows, that he isn't that bad a guy, that SHE has flaws, they will slowly begin to concede they wish it had worked out.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 05:51 PM |
| -3 | Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship?Right, so OP chose a poor example, and A LOT of people here are perfectly willing to continue beating a strawman regardless of if they should know better. This happens a lot here. People dissect each other's arguments over semantics and disregard them because of spelling errors. We're tribal and rarely allow integrity to win the day. I believe in the female in group preference. I believe in pretty privilege(advantage women). I believe that eggs are more valuable than sperm. AND I believe that fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 10:42 PM |
| 2 | The "would you rather be alone with a bear or a man?" thing is just toxic and not much of a statement.This topic is screwed though isn't it. I'm on the side that you should pick the guy. IF ONLY because of the state of the gender war. Like just be chill and say you like men. That's where I land. I understand I'm biased. But I mean, obviously, I would hide from any man in the woods as well. I mean, I'd hide from a bear, too, but I would hide from a guy. Like you said, there's no reason to be found in the woods by another person. It's like this, when I'm alone in my home, and I think I hear a pers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 09:50 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageAunt Janice have long hair or short? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 09:08 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageThey always describe older guys as "wrinkly, bald, and chubby." Like, "ok, Aunt Janice! Go back to your readers digest." Yea I agree. No one's telling you to date some actual old man like a Hugh Hefner thing. Were discussing handsome successful in shape 30-50 yr olds. It's not all guys. We understand. They've almost got the culture to accept hating on even handsome men dating younger as seen with Chris Evans and Henry Cavil. But mostly, they hide behind the idea that you're asking them to date s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 06:30 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageThis is an interesting aspect of trp. As the poster above you described, certain men do experience attention & desire from a younger cohort of women. Are men meant to give women what they want? Make them happy? If a 35yr old man turns down a 22 yr old woman has he done the right thing? Will she not simply choose another guy close to his age who is more willing? Will his rejection teach her what the women here want her to learn? Should I assume she's broken? SHE won't accept that answer if explai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 03:58 PM |
| 5 | Hidden competition among women?they have no reason use it as a bargaining chip as they themselves benefit from it. You deny that their covert contract is to offer sex to attractive men in the hopes of commitment? Nice guys offer niceness & commitment in the hopes of sex. Women do the opposite. You do yourself a disservice to assume your gfs previous sexual partners meant nothing to her. "She just wanted sex." No, she fundamentally desired those men in a way she barely ever feels for the other category of guy. I just think it'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Are men's dating beliefs based on personal circumstances?Plus your trying is outweighed by the fact that she simply ran into him at some fancy function. She gets to imagine him as mysterious and fun, while he can be aloof and unattached to her. So your efforts will show that you care, while this cool mystery guy is simply letting her talk to him. He has important business/athlete/shady stuff to do. You're here wasting her time in your regular sneakers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Acting slightly immoral with women is the best way to actually get quality womenThey're aware of that. The point of this post is that it works. So guys are dealing with the internal debate between treating others as you'd like to be treated, as another sentient human being. Or giving women "what they want" which is this act. They are unhappy without the act. They will get upset with you without the act. They won't speak to you without the act. So you have a choice. Be what YOU think is a decent person and have your expectations of love and kindness be ignored, while seeming… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 01:11 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesFantastic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:52 PM |
| 4 | A Woman with ''No Kids and Not Fat'' is actually a high standard compared to the average manEven just here on reddit. Idk how I got into the teachers' sub, but that place is bleak. Kids don't know this. They refuse to learn that. Graduating seniors don't know this. They've never even heard of that. They'll ask you for food you're eating. Ask to use your charger to charge their phone in class. To not pay attention. Like they don't care that they come off as rude or entitled. Just that you might give in to guilt or bullying, and they might as well try. Sounds like we're in for some troub… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:43 PM |
| 1 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.This is such a weird one for me. I'm a very giving partner. I do not understand this demo of men who put in little effort. All these women dating lazy uninterested in sex men are ruining my arguments. It isn't fair 😜 I suspect it's the overweight/unathletic demo, and I don't think they're relevant when discussing people dating with choice, but regardless, yea, if your guy sucks at sex I'm fine with that being a problem. That shouldn't be most of us who are here actively caring, though. I accept … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 03:40 PM |
| 1 | The wall is a fact and you don't do women any favors by denying itWhataboutism and then a strawman. the advice to rush into marrying the first person available This is insane and they didn't say this. Women should acknowledge the wall and try to settle down before 35 if they want to have a family. But go ahead, when we tell you the sky is blue and you spit on the ground and go, "I'll never listen to your evil patriarchal ways!" It just makes it so much easier to get along and work towards a better world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 12:38 PM |
| – | Over 85 percent of dating problems would solve itself if women didn’t go for men out of their league."Look, I put out 100 free iPhones to be stolen and 100 to be purchased. At the end of the day, I'd sold a few iPhones, but all the free ones were gone!! I'm not going to analyze that! Or I may and develop all the concurrent mental issues, but I'll never admit it to you!" It's like we're all Elrond begging Isildur to throw the ring into the mountain. We could return to peace. Everything's fine. We all love each other. There's prosperity to be had. But you see it in their eyes. Their actions trigg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 01:57 AM |
| – | Over 85 percent of dating problems would solve itself if women didn’t go for men out of their league.Right, and the longer we wait here, hoping beyond hope, that they'll admit the truth that they already know to us... This is why we need a society, that when these tiktok girls make videos explaining "dating advice", "listen ladies, guys who walk all over you heres what they want..." and they give some airhead surface level analysis of the lie of why casual sex happens. "Oh, he just couldn't handle you." The culture needs to feel more comfortable giving that person an appropriately dismissive re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Men see women as partners/companions; women see men as disposable accessories.I want this spread around more. If you give rats a dopamine drip they'll starve to death just pushing the button. But there are all these relationships out there where people are like, "Nah, we can't use our free dopamine button this afternoon. Or tonight. Its just so unpleasant to do that warm, wet, lovely action that results in closeness & happiness. But we'll drink ourselves to death." One of the biggest reasons I'm here is that people don't make any sense, and yet all my life the women have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 04:49 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] Men shouldn't take dating advice from women, period.As long as it doesn't feel dishonest and blind. I used to work in special education, and my completely inappropriate arm chair psychologizing of MYSELF is that I demonstrate some light Oppositional Defiance Disorder. I simply have a problem being lied to, treated unfairly, or being patronized. I'm not conservative and I don't want a submissive virgin. I'm here because I keep finding bullshit in feminism and I have an unending itch to point at things and say, "Heyyyy" An example, recently, on a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 09:52 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] Men shouldn't take dating advice from women, period.Look man, I didn't go to college for any of this stuff. I AM a part of our society that talks out of its ass. Everything is "awesome" or "brilliant" nowadays. Aren't those words in the bible that describe light. Your skateboard trick shouldn't be awesome. So fine, I can accept when words aren't perfect. (Your schooling me on stoicism.) Do you disagree with my sentiment? What another just reasonably educated person postulated? I agree, I do have emotions. I do not believe in showing them to women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 08:54 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] Men shouldn't take dating advice from women, period.I really concede to this. If we're willing to appreciate people for the individual they are, and not pretend everyone is "just as special" as everyone else, then yes I do think we can properly assess how to deal with the "opposite". I'm someone who thinks that if you call everyone strong, then you rob the truly strong of what their talent is. And the other people who are weak are also being robbed as they are now "Stong" and will not work to find out what they actually bring to the table. And we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] Men shouldn't take dating advice from women, period.Maybe. Personally, I think this is because you're experiencing trp so far down the line. At some point, the message would have been any man, and any woman would benefit from the man acting in certain ways. He has to be stoic and internalize his locus of control. Be competent in his provider and romantic role so that he doesn't demonstrate any insecurity or weakness. There are sacrifices. You love downward. Men->women->children. So you, as the man, will not be treated by your woman as she is trea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 07:46 PM |
| 1 | Women pursue fantasy archetypes not actual men: break the fantasy, goodbye relationshipHow is one of these fair and not the other? If 5 guys approach you and all ask for sex, and you choose 1 of them. And then subsequently 2 more. If you later approach the remaining 2 and say, "Hey, I'd like commitment." Why can't they say, "Sorry, I make the judgment for this subsequent action based on your previous judgment."? Not a fantasy. Rational reasons as well as some healthy bitterness that so many choose instant gratification over long term happiness. And if you lie, or as you like to im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 03:40 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: The wife of an NFL Quarterback recently revealed she slept with his back up QB. Do you now understand why your history matters to many men?Yup, exactly. I'd be willing to bet she told him what she was going to do beforehand. This is one of these disconnects I have with some certain percentage of society. If you lay out how I will self-destruct and not get what I want, I will choose to keep getting what I want. Is driving the speed limit un-sexy? Oh, well. I prefer a snack and my bed to any immediate gratification. I can't relate to these actions. If he let her do that because of what he wanted in the moment, it sounds like several … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 01:40 AM |
| 19 | Q4W: The wife of an NFL Quarterback recently revealed she slept with his back up QB. Do you now understand why your history matters to many men?Theres the actual red pill answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 12:59 AM |
| 1 | I think men are being gaslighted when they're told that a man who has his shit together cannot find a younger woman to date.Now here's a real question! Is he being gaslit on her preferences or agency? Is the younger woman allowed to date because she's mature and honest with herself? Or because she's spontaneous & adventerous? Is the guy indulging her desire correct to do so. If he turns her down, will she not simply go to another guy. What do men gain in being gentlemen? Is there any purpose, or do we simply lose out on female sexuality? If you turn a woman down because you want to be honorable, will she view it as s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 11:26 AM |
| 2 | The Red Pill is Just Generic Self Help + MisogynyAny chance you'll concede exaggeration rather than hatred(mysoginy). All those bad quotes you put in the OP, what if I view them as beneficial to the women in my life. That they will be more pleased with me and how I act if I comport myself in a way described by trp. Now I can accept the insulting aspect of them, but I've been a little disappointed by the women in my life. So I just think it's a bitter pill to swallow. Give them what they demand. They will at least allow peace. They show no inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 05:11 AM |
| -4 | The Red Pill is Just Generic Self Help + MisogynyThis is clearly part of it. They LOVE throwing sexlessness at us. And that our opinions here are directly what leads to our failure. You're such freaking dreamers. Bad people with bad thoughts get bad results because women are wonderful. Yeah, it'd be real fucking nice if it was that rosy. Do you at least understand how you're arguing with us here. We believe in accepting life's dark truths. Now, maybe that's delusion, but it isn't sad or weak or stupid. It's admirable, at the very least. And ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 04:59 AM |
| 2 | Women put the bar higher for men than most would want for themselves.Ever wonder why people are rejecting Patriarchy theory en masse outside feminist "academia"? Yeah, because it's lazy and it is ignorant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 01:51 PM |
| 6 | "men arent *allowed* to..."My mom broke it while washing. I actually saw an example of this the other day. My mom was cleaning something in the sink. She dropped it, and it spilled everywhere. I think if she'd been alone, it would have been different, but my father and I were right there. He went over to help her, and she sorta threw a tantrum. She started sputtering about it, and he was like, in a calm tone, "it was my fault." And she, exasperated, goes,"it WAS your fault!!" It was like he cleared a road block in her min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/24 11:57 AM |
| 1 | The male "Provider" isn't Biology. Women are just entitled.Isn't that just how science works? I hear ya. I'm just not someone who thinks we live in a time where free thought occurs in all directions unhindered. I think there is context to having been alive for the past 10 yrs that would let someone realize that even science wasn't able to escape having to be nice and not ruffle feathers. So I don't think that guy will be the last scientist, he's just still alive, to come out and recant, do his penance, and just hand the church of nice more ammo. I ask q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/24 01:01 AM |
| -4 | The male "Provider" isn't Biology. Women are just entitled.They were able to get the guy whose research looked into the understanding of alpha male wolves to back down and tell us all that we're crazy. As if we don't live in a time where people capitulate and cede ground to crybullies. That's the end of that argument. Nobody in academia is a shill. Nooooo But that guy says it's not true anymore, so ignore your lying eyes. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/24 11:47 PM |
| – | CMV: choosing the bear has been detrimental to our cause.Your comment made me think something. "to feel morally superior to men" We know they don't even think about average dudes. So I argue, this is again, these women thinking about some jerk SHE let use her and then became upset that he wouldn't change some aspect of himself. She'd take a bear over him. Or the 15 guys from her past that represent "men" when she wants to trash men. It just makes it all the more shallow. Whereas the guys want to analyze how dangerous bears are, and then discuss all th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/24 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Are women lying to themselves and others when they answer bear question.That's this sub! That's where you are now! Go through any thread you choose. It will be men desperately trying to create metaphors and comparisons that highlight the thoughts we're attempting to have about the women in our lives. And yes, they are criticisms. But the current understanding feels like, "There aren't any valid criticisms of women obvi." And you guys go, EVERY TIME, "ehh I've met men. You're shit. Nothing you say could be true because you're saying it against women. Nothing against … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/24 11:24 PM |
| 11 | Dating apps and the over-abundance of options: why this illusion of choice is a bad thingFurther insulting by pointing out that they don't even consider these other men. They cannot even make their complaints constrain to the correct targets. Because it would mean they can see the mistake their making. It would mean we could discuss solutions and responsibility. We don't live amongst adults while this goes on. We cannot be proud of who we are and what we teach our children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/24 04:40 PM |
| – | Why do so many women love to suggest men “hate women” simply because they are frustrated with the horrific state of dating?As well, ignorant people have latched onto an idea, clearly given to them by someone else, that as long as they're championing life or death issues, then everyone else's casual fears are ignore-able. There's a genocide or people dying in the streets so you can't worry about taxes or education. In fact, how dare you! You've just become worthy of action against you by being ignorantly against life or death struggles. They don't need to argue against us if we're just maniacs who hate blindly. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/24 04:45 PM |
| -8 | Rationalizing a pump and dumpKeep going dude. Your argument is a good one and they're about to be at the "why do you care so much?!" Phase. The only thing I think was wrong with your post is that it doesn't go far enough. You're still the kind of guy who's looking for more sex from the same girls. You are entertaining some compassion in these interactions. I know dudes who sleep with women and the intention was to ghost beforehand. Dudes who make other guys justifiably unattracted to these women. Because they were used like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/24 04:05 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?Same way that many of the women who I've worked with, have been ruthless about the other men we worked with or "ugly older guys" who came into the store. But online it seems like women would never take part. The delight in saying, "I was SURE that was a hair piece!" can be shocking. They will here a story about something happening to a guys privates, and while actively suppressing laughter be like, "no that's not ok, I understand why that's wrong." And sure I think they do. But they clearly deli… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:48 PM |
| – | Why do some men seem to refuse facts to remain miserable?Look if nowhere in here will ANYONE even suggest that maybe it's because they're on to something and the larger cohort of women in the West are mimicking toxic preferences and behavior, then all we have here is some sort of echo chamber. This place is even named for the side of the debate we're pretending isn't there. "The men might be right." Needs to have it's due, or else you shouldn't be able to simply be here without accepting you're punching down. There isn't anything admirable or intellig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/24 05:34 PM |
| 3 | If promiscuous women are so low value, why would you still want to have sex with them?This is relevant to this space in general that OP is over thinking the language and intensity with which it is used. To men it's not that big a deal that we use the word sluts or used or the phrase "ran thru". We say these things to make our point and then we move on. I don't need to dislike someone with my entire being to allow myself to utter that they are "low value". It doesn't signify other things about me. That I'm bigoted and simple minded because I'd lower someone down in my eyes just fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/24 01:57 PM |
| 4 | What does "insecure" even means?See, I'd be fine with it from that person. This was a casual friend. She hadn't earned the level of comfort. Which just adds to how "crude" she was willing to be in front of none intimate partners. I'm fine with period talk and seeing stuff in the garbage. I'm an adult about that. I mostly need you to make farts clever if you're gonna do it. Otherwise, I got over that in elementary school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 09:06 PM |
| 11 | What does "insecure" even means?To throw them a bone, they have bought into this "girl's can make sexual jokes just like guys can" attitude no holds barred. I knew girls in college who would fart around me, and then later try and hookup. I declined. They would make jokes if I tripped or made some stupid comment. It was like having a little brother around more than a chick. So I do agree it's a double standard. It's infuriating how upset they'd get if I commented on their body or simply made a negative comment about being overw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/24 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do men catch feelings for their female friends than vice versa?I'm fine with you having this opinion. You certainly may be right. But I am going to place here that I, a trp member, happen to think I'm simpler. Like, I think it says more about women being more difficult. I remember being in high school and thinking I really could have dated any one of my gf's friends. They were all nice and pretty. That's good enough for me. I've been asked out by several of my gfs, so they did the choosing, and I just said, "Yeah, let's see where this goes." Not all have be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/24 08:29 PM |
| 1 | Blue Pillers constantly respond to criticism or men venting with “well clearly your attitude/personality is why you struggle” but this makes zero sense, as venting anonymously online has absolutely nothing to do with how you interact with women/people in real lifeI'm not good at writing up long ideas and forming conclusions, but occasionally before I fall asleep at night I have this idea for a post, questioning the blue pilled here, do they know the allegory of the cave? Do they appreciate the role they play in all this? Like, I can appreciate trp might be wrong. I might be insane. Gotta account for all possibilities. I only know that I know nothing. But IF the Red Pill is right, then everyone else WOULD act this way. This IS how it would go. The people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/24 10:07 PM |
| 5 | Why are men angry that women like 'Chad'?Isn't that what trp guys are describing? You were experiencing hawt guys trying to overwhelm you, by being out of your league, in hopes of a quick lay. They may not have been willing to commit. Now, it sounds like you passed the test as far as I'm concerned. So be proud. But isn't the concept similar to a girl waiting on a hawt guy, and he keeps going, "hold on wait. This next video on pornhub looks really hot!" And the girl is like, "but she doesn't know you. This isn't real. You're passing up … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/24 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: How would you feel if your SO regularly watched pr0n?This is because women lie about bigger not being better. We all lie about sex with an athletic man not being the pinnacle of sex, and that when you settle down with your unathletic, slightly overweight husband THAT sex isn't the reason there's no more desire for sex. If we acknowledge that big men who have the muscles to put in work provide the optimal experience, then yea I get to care that women prefer it. Out of shape men would be wise not to settle down with women who have exclusively been b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/24 04:32 PM |
| 2 | The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life.Just that all her rules about what shoes he's wearing apply to betas. If Chad is barefoot, she'll rationalize why that's cool and mysterious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/24 12:33 AM |
| 0 | The reason men "have such low standards" is because they assume that any woman they get with to change to fit the mold of their ideal life.I didn't read your whole reply, so I apologize if you covered this. But it's hilarious to read those rationalizations about hiking shoes and all the danger he might be putting himself into, and then you go, "Wait a minute? Who's getting laid? Guys on motorcycles? Mysterious guys." It's just all red pills all the way. We always say they're attracted to certain guys. If they're treating you in these ways, then she's not into you like she is other guys. Cuz she's not yelling at Chad for running red… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 07:21 PM |
| 0 | Gender misconceptionsOh, you're right. I forgot if a Hitler youth writes something here, and it's titled similarly to my posts, or it seems to you that were similarly rude, then the nuance between the two positions is just an inconvenience for me. It's a good thing that you tried to shut down a well-intentioned commentor by tarring them with the words of someone we all disagree with. Oh, what I've learned here today. My mind reels with all the education. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/24 07:28 PM |
| 0 | Is a One Night Stand the truest form of a woman showing Burning Sexual Desire?Fair, some of us are here because we can get women, and yet need to hear confessions like this, so I remember not to marry something with that low of a standard. And you're like, "So what?! I got laid incel." And yea, you're right. People being validated by sex is meaningful. You're right. Not enjoying literature together or creating something artistic together. You didn't turn anyone off by attempting to add nuance to a conversation. Just memes & jokes for you. Bumping uglies is such an accompl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/24 05:05 PM |
| 4 | If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single?I don't totally discount your theory, but I also think people don't like thinking about what it's like to be successful and competany AND attractive. People simp for you. Someone always wants a piece of you. They often bring nothing to the table. They blatantly just want to bask in your time and have your presence elevate them. I'm not one of these people, but I think a lot of us ignore how boring, inept, and unattractive the rest of us are. We're not always bringing interesting stuff to the coo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/24 07:04 PM |
| 9 | The advice women give to men here is devised to limit their chancesSee, are we finding that there's actually more to learn about people and how obtuse they can be. How attractive following and fitting in can be. How badly they all want to appear virtuous and honest, but they balk at holding to principles the moment it means they will have to be outside the polite crowd. We're attempting to discuss high-level jargon-y stuff with people who want to go, "My boyfriend is so submissive, and I love him. We must be soooo emotionally intelligent! "You're right, girl. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Women make different men they date play by different rulesCovert contracts Guys will be nice and friendly to a girl in an attempt to get her to like him and eventually sleep with him. Which was his underhanded goal. Girls will be "available" to hawt guys in an attempt to get him to like her and eventually commit to her. Which was her underhanded goal. Obviously, one can do whatever they want as long as it's legal. The contention is that many many women sleep with men who will not commit to them. For the more traditional guys, they judge females in gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/24 06:01 PM |
| 0 | The Blue Pill didn't lie to youI'm officially a "knee-jerk mean person" now. I implore as many others to join me as possible. It is our only hope. Whenever you meet these people who go, "well idk if they were correct, but they were mean while going about it." Just know that you are staring into the maw of a black hole. This is where all quality goes to die. "Hugboxes for all, everyone get your pacifiers over here. Hey, did that guy side-eye someone! Stop him!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 08:20 PM |
| – | Women act like TRP is some kooky conspiracy theory rotting men’s brains but then tell bold faced lies like “maybe if you were nice to women and took a shower you would get a date.” This blatant dishonesty is the very foundation of red pill ideology.The argument, "whatever you do, please 🙏 stop informing men about this stuff." Doesn't strike one as coming from the side with a lot of confidence in their point of view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/24 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Women face no significant penalty when dating in their 30sAnd then TRP will go on and say women are promiscuous, hypergamous n cheat more. If the average man had enough options, he would cheat alright. Oh, you're playing fair 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 06:18 PM |
| 1 | Is the the old cliché “you’ll meet someone when you’re not expecting it” true for men?Why do we have to dissect the first sentiment TO GET TO this sentiment from "the nice". "Oh well, once you've seen through my charade, then I admit to everything, duh!" Very profound Or "of course everything I say are simply empty calorie niceties. I mean, why would I risk being honest?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 12:05 PM |
| 0 | What women consider “high value man" is symmetrically tied to the amount baby momma’s he has fighting over himEhh, I'm super lazy, so it doesn't feel like me to go on and on about money and how people value it. I do think people value looks to the extent that they value drugs and instant gratification. Like looking at an attractive person is pleasant. But being in a car with someone willing to break the rules and ride the line between danger and safety gives an effect as well. (I don't care for this. I'm boring.) The guys I knew who were good with girls just didn't let things get boring. Cool people are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/24 01:45 AM |
| 1 | What women consider “high value man" is symmetrically tied to the amount baby momma’s he has fighting over himYou can spend all day here arguing and tomorrow a new high-school freshman will come here, with their rosy tinted hopes about romance, and you'll be in the same conversation, banging your head against the wall, only to end up seeming like a callous tool yet again. I was young once, too(comment on the hopeful. Not you). No judgment. The only truth worth knowing is that "ignorance IS bliss." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/24 07:42 PM |
| 5 | The number of people who refuse to acknowledge that men are way hornier than women is a perfect example of why blue pillers can not be trusted to have an honest discussionYou're getting at the female covert contract. The male one is the friend zone. Guys act nice, so they hope the girl will give sex. The female one is casual sex. Women know hawt guys will get sex from some girl. They want it to be them so that they are in the best position to get commitment from him. Both are "wrong" as they're obfuscating their desires by placating the other person in hopes that this ingratiation will produce their desired result. It's duplicitous. The female one gets more atten… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/24 06:42 PM |
| 3 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?Definitely agree to a point. I've known women whose disinterest makes sense. I wasn't charming enough or just stumbled in the wrong moments. I could tell they liked me, but I wasn't 100% in, and eventually, she noticed. I've been in situations where I do feel responsible for the issue. But then I've also been around girls who have gone on & on about a guy for weeks, finally get him, and then act as if, "ehh idk" is acceptable as a reason. I'm not even the guy in question. It just sort of seems l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/24 12:06 AM |
| 4 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?Right. Either I'm worthy of being committed, or I'm correct. Huh, no one's trying to lock me up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 10:09 PM |
| 44 | Why do women seem to get "the ick" over the most innocuous things these days?As well, sooo many of us give these women the benefit of the doubt. "Oh she's making a point. She's thought this out." When in reality, one or maybe 2 attractive dudes ghosted her or treated her poorly, and now she's taking shots at them. "Oh if guys eat their peas weird, that's such an ick." In the hopes that said guy will see it(why would he) and get upset or want to show her some attention. He didn't even eat his peas weird and that's why they're done. She's just grasping at things she notice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/24 05:16 PM |
| – | Why can't women take an L?Some of us are strong or independent, or smart. If you rob us of those characteristics by blanketing everyone with the same qualifier, not only does it rob us of our uniqueness, but it robs the other person of the chance to find what is of quality about them. Do I think fat girls need to be skinny? No. I think they need to be themselves. Also, it creates guilt in the people actually in possession of these characteristics because they now know everyone wishes they were in their shoes, and it's un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/24 06:30 PM |
| 2 | Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most menTo add to this, the guy in my friend group, growing up, who worked to sleep with 40+ women, wouldn't concede any red pill points I brought up. HE cheated on girlfriends, HE was sleeping around as much as possible, spinning plates, HE had been abusive and rough with girls. Ghosted girls. Took virginity and then walked away. I've never even been tempted to cheat. Never sleep with anyone in between relationships. My last gf got in my face during a fight, felt like she was daring me to get physical.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/24 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Even ignoring the RP/BP doomers, how does anyone not becone cynical about long term monogamy when working in an office setting full of cheaters?This is fine if everyone would also admit this is how transactional and non "fairy tale" relationships are. Not even in a bad way. I think your grandparents knew it was a practical arrangement. I think we were all sold, "omg what if he's tall, dark, & handsome, what if she's gorgeous." That's all marketing. I'm fine with your conclusion if we can clear away some of the fru fru around love and relationships. Your point is more easily accomplished if she didn't goad you into saying you love her an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/24 07:16 PM |
| 3 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Saying that high earning women will become insufferable towards you because you are incapable of impressing them on some instinctual level is a statement made by an insecure man. This is this whole place. My thoughts aren't "real thoughts." They're insecurities. I'm not a "real man". Why can I not attempt to criticize women? Why is that impossible. Like you don't say, "maybe but I don't think you're correct." You say, "thats only insecurity." It's just not a discussion. You're just shutting me d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 03:29 PM |
| 1 | "You have to work 10 times harder than your grandfathers for women 10 times worse."Let’s be real here, it’s men that don’t want to date women that make more money than they do. This issue will never be accepted by the other side. As a man, my opinion is not that I have some instinctual problem with my female partner earning more than me. It is that I am convinced that SHE will become insufferable towards me if I am incapable of impressing on some instinctual level. If I do not outearn her, or out class her beauty wise, or something, then she will be incapable of simply having … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/24 02:38 PM |
| – | Seriously, how is the average joe supposed to be happy if he is never desired?They will not accept your scenario because they refuse to accept any scenario where a woman has committed to a man for anything other than pure, honest, and mature reasons. So they never settle. It's your fault if she gold dug. If she won't do sex acts with you, that she did in the past, you are certainly no less attractive than the other guys. You have a good premise. But you will not get many of them to admit to any of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 06:28 PM |
| 4 | Serious question for the ladys: Do you find this kind of man attractiv?I don’t really think that’s about the money per se. More that they search for like-minded partners. Someone who has a bachelor’s degree will seek out someone who has experienced the hardships of getting a bachelor’s degree. That makes sense. But because we won't acknowledge the selfish aspect of this, "I have a bachelor's so he better have one." we are unable to dismiss it entirely. Like if being attractive was alllllways correlated with being smart or tall, people would just say they want smart… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/24 06:18 PM |
| 5 | CMV, women have a low tolerance for male vulnerability which perpetuates men not expressing their thoughts and feelingsCan we use this moment to really hunker down on trp trying to get men to be stoic and a rock for others to Moore themselves to. Very often we try and say that we treat women differently or appreciate their thoughts differently. "Oldest teenager in the room" comes to mind. These sort of red pill aspects of how men should act always came across to me as, "I don't need to actually see or believe women are any different. Just treat them this way and THEY prefer it. Be fun. Don't be boring. Ever. Nev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/24 10:50 PM |
| -3 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beWell, obviously, this is true, but this strong independent bbw thing is definitely the example used next to gaslighting in the dictionary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 12:56 PM |
| 3 | When did small penis become synonymous with insecure?I haven't seen it the last few commercials, so I'm assuming they got their heads out of their asses or some boomer learned the joke the new hire was playing on them, But this new movie coming out about ducks migrating had the tag line ,"Little duck energy." Which I can't think of any way that isn't an overt reference to "little dick energy." And thus a pretty mainstream media company felt it appropriate to poke fun at this rather acceptable aspect of our culture. A bit sideways to the point, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/23 03:27 PM |
| 0 | Are women turned off more by guys being okay with their pasts than they let on?You made a post here. It cost nothing. Anonymous internet people COULD have responded with all manner of opinion, including insults, insights, and nonsensical responses. When you only receive these concern trolling responses, "Why would anyone even want to know any of this?" "I don't think you can figure anything out from such an unsubstantiated thought." "You're obviously not correct about anyone anywhere." It makes it a little suspect. Not that your argument is correct. But that we as a cultur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/23 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Watching people be unaware of their type is funny.I think you get points for this one. I'm not disagreeing. But it's definitely a case of "these are two distinct groups who both post here." My opinion is trp started for guys who were close to being perfectly suited for dating but didn't realize some aspect of it. Whereas it has ended up being self-help for guys who REALLY require some work to be worthwhile for a woman. So yes, the second group should acknowledge their advice doesn't need to be centered around "hot" women. It clearly breaks apar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 07:16 PM |
| -1 | Most advice targeted at men here is to make them wait until they are too old to do anythingTake this with a grain of salt, but one of the things I don't see mentioned or described here, is that before all this was mainstream, and still some now, some of these guys needed to be SHAKEN in order for the info to sink in. For example, telling some horrific story of how some guys nice sweet high school gf lied to him and cheated on him isn't emblematic of all high school gfs or relationships in general. But, as we see here, many of the guys, as we weren't speaking to women, needed something… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/23 06:51 PM |
| 2 | Most single lonely men are not struggling with women because they're old fashioned misogynistsThis opinion is based on the idea that you think women, in aggregate, most of the time, would make the morally correct decision and "do what is right." I do not believe that if everything was transparent, women would stop making the hedonistic instant gratification choice. On top of that, IF being caught was the only thing that mattered to them, then we have found another metric to judge them by as well. (I understand you think this "new" info would cause her to leave in disgust. We disagree. I'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/23 01:29 PM |
| – | What are successful women supposed to actually do for dating?No one, male or female, needs or benefits from harsh, unsolicited advice They did not say they were vengeful. I'm pretty sure their point was that they are simply speaking plainly. This is a pretty good example of our differences, though. We see it everywhere in society. Women want to eliminate harsh truths. Bald faced honesty is too much for some people, and so they will mommy all of society so that no one cries. It's not like it's an evil intention on its face. But the road to hell is paved wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:37 PM |
| – | What are successful women supposed to actually do for dating?Neither of us thinks this is stupid shit. Everyone says that until a few more comments down... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:26 PM |
| – | What are successful women supposed to actually do for dating?Just admit, to yourselves, this is why you're here. If you truly thought we were as bad as you say, it wouldn't be appropriate to be here trading petty insults. We're bigots, mysoginists, and in a rage. What makes hanging out here, with the intention of some girl power quips, a good use of your time. Or are we right that you guys have all the sex, influence, and power and are just enjoying punching down on a bunch of silenced, in a corner, men who have trouble expressing their issues. "Oh my gos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/23 02:02 PM |
| – | Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse"I'm the kind of guy who doesn't get hints and won't make the 1st move. I get it. I won't make excuses for us. But I've had girlfriends because they asked me out, and they were all happy with their decision. I've ended all my relationships because despite not liking to outwardly project my whims and desires, I care a lot about who I am and what I stand for, and I put dignity above sex or loneliness. The argument here is that I loved all these women and our time together. I'd still like to be thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:39 PM |
| 4 | Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse"That's fair. Their comment had more to do with your literal quote being the cliche one from the famous Kathy Newman vs. Jordan peterson debate. He'd try and explain something about humans, and she'd go, "so what you're saying is that women should be laying in mud all the time?" And he and everyone watching were like, "where did he say that?" So OPs trying to make a point here, and it's most likely not "that women are never victims" because, as you pointed out, that's stupid. So technically, your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:20 PM |
| 3 | Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse"The accountability we're looking for would have deterred the events from occurring. "I was young and impressionable, so I didn't do anything that I wasn't fully capable of understanding." I was overweight and had low self-esteem, so I handled that first before letting others get what they want." he was just too hawt, so I did things with a stranger that are obviously icky." We're looking for accountability that builds up a person. Not so we just have a self aware time bomb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:10 PM |
| 4 | Women have a tendency to victimize themselves by framing past relationships that didn't work out as involving "manipulation" or "abuse"I can accept a certain amount of complaints are these. Do you believe there should be no accounting for the very obvious opinion that many guys have that if all the guys getting picked are so bad, I have a right to be upset for being sidelined? I don't think you can ever get around that argument existing. Obviously, some guys who are no good will say it too. But we don't stop giving to starving people because some are secretly scammers. There are men who deserve your sympathy because they're a b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/23 05:04 PM |
| 1 | If you've ever called a man an incel, you can't really claim there's nothing wrong with being a male virginDo you not think we're far enough down this rabbit hole that the people disagreeing with you simply think people with your similar disposition, to avoid making things women's fault, are also the ones who wrote that definition. Like people with your opinions and perspectives (because they're protected and encouraged by every major university, media company, & western government) are in positions of power now. You can't use that as an argument against the people who disagree with you. We think you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/23 02:28 PM |
| 3 | If sex is water, women have to survive on the ocean, men in the desert.Oh my gosh, I sure hope my future wife made this mistake like 15 times. She'll fondly remember it. The guys got what they wanted. Why am I upset? Pesky little mind. I'm so insecure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 02:14 PM |
| 3 | The problem with stepdads is that most of the time these women wouldn't date them if they didn't have kidsYou think the mom is ever going to say or even admit to herself "I married a de facto evolutionary manlet because I needed the help, and traded the remains of my sexual value to an undesirable man in exchange for his labor and income and pleasant companionship" ? I think this is the whole thing right here. Lately, when the red pill pushes an idea too hard, the blue pill will eventually answer, "ok, we all knew this. You're just being ugly in the open. You were the naive one for not realizing we'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/23 04:46 PM |
| 21 | Woman gives a brutal redpill about stepdads. This is another warning for men who are considering bailing out single moms.Have an opinion, on what the middle ground here is? Like in the post, a single woman has too much power. She can do whatever she pleases. Validate and reproduce with sub par people, and still be sent the signals that she's won, she's valuable. People should and will support her. AND she's smart. She makes sense. To me, this is too powerful. Someone simply can get pregnant, and then have the upper hand in arguments about dignity and propriety, over people who are sexless and childless but volunte… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/11/23 04:53 PM |
| -1 | Keke Palmer and the warning signs of an abuserI dont really feel like that's a good workaround. A duck can think it's an inner tube. It would not give quality duck lessons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:11 PM |
| 0 | Keke Palmer and the warning signs of an abuserSee, I think that is negated by the "who cares? It's no big deal." Well, if it's no big deal, then why is it a big deal? For example, if I choose to throw something out in the trash can or the dumpster outside, and you tell me you have a preference, I'll probably listen cuz there's no big deal. Why did she make herself oggle-able? Why care if your guy doesn't want you to dance? Why go out at all. It's for tittilation. People could stay home and read the Bible and do burpees if they were trying t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 06:11 PM |
| -4 | Keke Palmer and the warning signs of an abuserSee, I'm really on the side of, if you can go be an adult I can trust, I'm gonna let shit slide. If she'd been dressed like that, and minded her business, didn't let any guys linger, just was out looking good, I could be fine. I'd argue, being on stage, on camera, twirled around by the famous rich man in front of everyone, IS publicly shaming. And I wouldn't be with an SO who couldn't see that. Women refuse to admit they understand this anymore. "Why can't I go into detail about my sexuality, on… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/23 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Would you be willing to entertain having a relationship with a man that spends alot of time online explaining to people and arguing with them about how his decisions have nothing to do with why he can't find sex or a relationship? Why or why not?It's not like I disagree technically. I even dislike the idea rpers throw around that a woman is wrong for leaving a man at rock bottom. I have a hard time imagining why I'd respect myself at rock bottom. However, it's so freaking close to the metric of, "sex with women is all that matters. You don't have sex with women, so you don't matter." Which is the worst dystopia I can imagine. This is the fundamental problem with this place AND greater western politics. One side does not think the other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/23 03:20 PM |
| 1 | The negative reactions to this man having the mildest, basic standards is proof that women is proof that men are not supposed to have standards at all and should just be happy to have any woman interested in them.It's not like I disagree with your premise. Just to offer an alternative thought. People have noticed, and done studies, on how boys play as the power rangers, the girls imagine they are princesses. The boys don't have a problem being Michaelangelo from tmnt, they don't need him to literally be them to enjoy pretending. 50 shades and twilight supposedly have cookie cutter girls any woman could see herself as. To continue on with this idea, the women want to picture a fantasy that they can see th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 02:16 AM |
| 1 | The podcasters like whatever podcast or fresh and fit are not helpful otherwise that'd be in relationships themselvesI broke up with an ex over this. (Well the whole package but your concept made me think of a convo that was big for me.) She would get mad at me for disagreeing with her lefty takes. I liked that she cared about politics. She had been active in it in her college. I found it impressive. So we were disagreeing, and I brought up how, "Hey, at least I'm not conservative." And I explained how, yes I have problems with modern political correctness, but I've always known the stuffy prudes who I hated i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 04:02 PM |
| 1 | The podcasters like whatever podcast or fresh and fit are not helpful otherwise that'd be in relationships themselvesreality like true crime isn't really entertaining to me I hate having to slight people I care about, including family members, but I respect it. Ultimately, I think you're kind of correct with your post. This show shouldn't exist because we should all be out fulfilling our dreams, not wallowing in our hedonism. The problem with the show even for red pillers is that any amount of this stuff seeping out is the danger. So yes, pointing out what bimbos say is funny and SEEMS like it might show peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 03:34 PM |
| 5 | The podcasters like whatever podcast or fresh and fit are not helpful otherwise that'd be in relationships themselvesWhy wouldn't there be entire podcasts dedicated to the state of women. Here are the reasons: People want to see it. That's why it's popular. Probably because most people have been taught that it's naughty to press women on their ideals and morality like this. Every time I've found myself in a situation like this in real life, I've realized the woman was talking about sexy things to escalate to sexy things. I think this is the only predatory thing about the show. The girls are like ,"yea sure I'l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/23 01:57 PM |
| 77 | Porn actress laments not having an affectionate partner to come home to after getting dicked down by different men.I forget who I literally just watched say this in an interview, I think it was Lisa Ann. The point was how hard it is to date, and she manages to wrangle a friends with benefits now and then. She mentions off hand at one point, that there's this guy, who is great, whos been around forever, who is almost good enough, but she has to leave him eventually every time. And you're just like, I refuse to be the only person who can see. I know the blind are lying, they can see, and they do know there g… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/10/23 04:13 PM |
| 2 | Women asking to be "treated as human beings" are really just asking to be treated as royaltyI think this is a good example of "the red pill." Is it that harmful to admit the immediate "lizard brain", deep within the animal that we are, thought is, "oh hey sex," and on some level "id like it with him/her". I think this is to demean animals. Dogs when they see food. There's no ethics. A good thought emerges. They smile and run to engage. We corrupt things. Thoughts are pure. I believe you are on a path towards an enlightened life. Denying yourself earthly pleasures and conquests. Admirab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/23 04:59 PM |
| 7 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsThe title insinuates these women are being offered sex. They are turning it down due to their own inability to prioritize physical aesthetics, if that's something they care about so much, and a failure to downplay the importance of one's appearance when considering a long term partner. Or even a short term one. Because we should validate good people. Not just hot strangers. Whereas men "focusing on themselves" were usually not invited to the table, and are attempting to better themselves to get … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 01:15 PM |
| -3 | This explains a lot: Majority of Women declined sex due to body insecurities, dating app findsAt least for the sake of argument he's right. You'd say, "ok no that's extreme. What if they just went out and sat at a booth and requested compliments dressed modestly?" That's a conversation where we can build off each other's ideas and debate some topic. Not this kindergartens bullshit where you call him a pervert and he's calls you a prude. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/23 12:56 PM |
| 3 | Young women have even more traditional standards than their mothers generationMy trp argument for this would be, "Watch what they do, not what they say." So like, they are saying they want things. Most likely, after having dated or some form of slept with a guy who they crushed on but who hasn't called back. So the "things" they want are that guy back. Whatever they're saying, it's to get him or a string of several guys like him back. You could say she wants to upset him, but that'd just be so he reaches out to express displeasure, and she has a chance to talk. The icks j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/23 07:44 PM |
| 9 | The reason men don't open up to most women, part 2 (post by @Typo-MAGAshiv)Even this isn't quite it. They're literally never NOT talking about Chad. Example #1- some Chad didn't open up about something and she's spewing forth on any platform she can, ANYTHING that might get him to notice or be shamed. Example #2- she ran into a decent guy. Anything they say they want us to do=something some recent Chad refused to do and left. Anything they pick on us for, isn't even to be mean, it's because Chads mean to betas and she's hoping he'll laugh with her. They only want one t… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/09/23 03:48 PM |
| 5 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleThis place is a war zone. Basically, we've whittled down our arguments to a few, and we keep poking the other side with them. This age gap thing is simply one of these areas, trp or guys, have really honed in on because it highlights the "double standard" women have about logic and reason. It highlights, "ARE we actually debating here?" Because obviously it's not illegal. EVERYONE would hope it's between consenting people. This "Well, idk, the guys proooobably being manipulative" argument is cle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:03 PM |
| – | Can y’all stop telling each other what both genders are attracted too?Again, what are we going to choose Door #1. Be reasonable and honest. Realize people are attempting to express ideas even if they do it poorly, and make efforts to help them flesh out those ideas so they can gain perspective on whether their thoughts make sense or not. Door #2. Allow ANY anonymous maniac, possibly even you on an alt account, to derail our conversations by finding the worst interpretation and then smearing honest upright efforts with it. What do these people want to do? Cover eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Women can easily find a yielding, nice guy if that's what they truly want. If women continuously date assholes it's because they have a preference for assholesSee the realizations were all making about true crime obsession. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/23 03:46 PM |
| – | The single biggest mistake women make in online-dating is filtering by male heightOk but doesn't this aspect of the conversation seem sort of disingenuous? Or like cheating? The men started a group to tell each other harsh truths. Red pills they can't unswallow. They want to determine what will get them dates, and they're willing to screw around with black pilled "incel" ideas to flesh out that strategy. Men start discussing that women prefer height and dark triad traits. Women disagree. Eventually..." or just accept that very attractive women with rigid height preferences do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/23 09:52 PM |
| – | A lot of women, especially those on the younger side, crave excitement and adventure, not stabilityYou'll notice that a lot of what the other commentor is saying is, "you guys use mean language. And talk about "all women" which upsets the women. There is no appreciation for the fact that these generalizations are exactly what we as straight men want. We want to be able to sift appropriately. We want a strategy. We don't say "ran through" because we want those women to have to wear a scarlet A. We don't say mean things to make women cry. Id befriend a girl i wouldnt date. Respect can be had. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/23 09:58 PM |
| 3 | CMV: This Medium Article from a middle-aged female author asking 'Where are all the good men' perfectly explains men's dating complaintsDo you not see how even your wording is exclusively in your favor? All my married friends are with someone way hotter + overall better than previous exes or fuck buddies. So I'm not sure what's funny about marrying the hot and smart + caring + financially capable man a woman has feelings for over the hot but ultimately dull fuck buddy with dead end feelings. "All my married friends" "with someone way hotter" They married "hot and smart + caring + financially capable" and left "ultimately dull fu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/23 05:44 PM |
| 3 | CMV : Even if women are more attractive in their 20’s, the attractive ones don’t want you now and definitely won’t want you in your 30’sWe've become too focused on the hopeless around here. Some of our posters even noticed it a bit back. That the questions around here get framed from the perspective of helping guys with no chance. Your example is perfect in that, there is, however large, some cohort of us, who are decent men, have fallen through the cracks as far as "success", and yet to pick us up would just take the right advice and hard work. But the posters here think someone wearing cargo shorts, white dad sneakers, tall so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/23 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Women are hypergamous not for wanting the best man, but for not really having an upper limit on the qualities they desire in menThe difficult thing to do here is to bring interesting and worthwhile content. It isn't easy to come up with a topic and it takes work to lay out your argument and come up with some supporting points. People are lazy. Either we contend with the content we get here, or we do the difficult work and use our time to create worthwhile content. You could be a successful YouTube if you knew how to consistently create engaging content. It's lucrative. We do neither here. Instead, as we are clearly simpl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 01:21 PM |
| 0 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeStop reacting to the language we use. You do nothing but ignore the idea when you insist that my being upset or exaggerating matters. Let me deal with my emotions. Do you really not see my point about you focusing too much on that metaphor. Because you were right. It IS a bad metaphor. But that didn't need to be the only worthwhile thought to be had. I'll apologize for treating you this way if you'll acknowledge that I'm not insane for seeing this tactic a lot here. "Oh, one wrong word or turn o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 09:07 PM |
| 2 | You cannot really have a submissive wife/gf and not view them as inferior to some degreeOh my gosh! The wrong metaphor! Now, this idea is going to be enshrined in law! A random thought online needs to be held to the highest standard lest the handmaids tail spontaneously occur. "Extra extra, random unimportant people online have so much power in their words that it must be met with rhetoric which unequivocally ends the discussion." We're definitely going to be so much better off in a future where no one is comfortable being wrong or outside the box. I can't wait to be 80 and see wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Why married women are you on this sub?What is the point in getting upset about the wording or the semantics of it. Just interact with him now that he's clarified his point. It's like we ARE here for a cage fight. The effort put into, "ok that was rough, but I can ignore that if we learn something." is nil. It's not like I think you're insane. But the poster above you's point isn't completely buried. You could give the conversation the benefit of the doubt if you tried. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/23 05:57 PM |
| -4 | Men would be alot less frustrated in the dating effort if they were given brutally honest and often politically incorrect truths about what most women expect from a man.This is a pretty good example of the disconnect. I will say, though, that if these men are “sick of getting shit on”, you’d think they wouldn’t use so many insults themselves. "If men wanted women to be nicer to them, in the specific way men want, then why aren't men being nicer TO women?" That's this whole space. Many of us tried it. CANNOT get over how un-replicable the experiment is. Tried something else. Got results. You can keep pushing being nice all you want. You're not my mom. It isn't i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/23 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Men, how long is waiting for sex too long?Good idea to shift this off of the practical concerns and onto whether or not it's ethical to lie about such a variable. You only strengthen your argument when we understand that you view obfuscation as appropriate and deception as deserved, making the entire concept shift to, "Are you observing the social contract? Should others trust you at all?" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/23 04:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?Everything in your 1st two paragraphs makes me go, "duh, point set match red pill." That's my bias, so I'll admit, sure there might be some other reason. Your opinion on the manosphere seems to me to be the way feminized society misunderstands old-fashioned men. They're rude and crude, but if you're open-minded, they're trying to make you laugh. Simple men want to get along and get a job done. So usually, whatever they're saying to you, if you laugh or make them feel smart, you're doing fine. Tr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 09:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4All Does the BP hate the idea of systematic approaches working because they destroy the idea of things just magically happening?I don't get the impression you're even on trps side. The argument is the poster above is demonstrating how that line of thinking is bankrupt. Neither side makes any sense, and yet if one asks about one side they get told, "no no, go the other way." Only to find the people guarding the other way will turn you back with the same argument. At a certain point you've EARNED the right to question motives. It's the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and yelling. They care so little for the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/23 05:20 PM |
| 1 | I’m (M21) mad and confused when a man equals obesity to unattractiveness in womenIf we were the type of society that held itself to its principles, maybe this would be the standpoint. If every time someone said something rude, mean, or distasteful, we looked at them and said, "You have degraded the subject at hand with silly ideas, or ugly concepts, or irrelevant filth. We are not benefiting from your input. Please raise the standard, or else we might not see you as valuable." Instead, we focus on kindergarten-esque feelings. Don't insult an ignorant person because that'd be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/23 06:05 PM |
| 1 | In the Old days the Redpill claimed that "Game" was the most important thing, in my observation the Manosphere transitioned hard to Looks/Money/Status maxxing theory, why did the Manosphere abonden game?I didn't think we were discussing the game-->marriage pipeline. Lots of dudes would use game to lay the 10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Does it not concern men that their low/no body count partner might one day realize "Hey I've only slept with 1 or 2 dudes? I want to see what's out there before I die!"It would be an opinion that experienced women aren't worth it. Thus the guys are entitled to it. You can't say they HAVE to have an equal opinion. They value young girls for being more ok with being casual and less life issues to deal with. They don't want what comes with an older woman. It needs to make no more sense than that. It's an opinion. The orgasm gap isn't something I'm going to argue with you about. Are women being honest? Idk. Are these men capable of performing but are shitty? Idk. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 09:40 PM |
| 6 | Does it not concern men that their low/no body count partner might one day realize "Hey I've only slept with 1 or 2 dudes? I want to see what's out there before I die!"No one specifically said that. I'm arguing against the idea that the reason a guy wants a low N girl is because he's insecure about his sexual prowess. That's where I started. People were dismissing the idea that guys wants virgins for any reason other than that they're sub par. So I'm making an argument that not just losers want low n. I agree that people might not think they're "shaming losers" but that's how I take that argument. "Well you only want an inexperienced girl because you're inexpe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 09:23 PM |
| 4 | Does it not concern men that their low/no body count partner might one day realize "Hey I've only slept with 1 or 2 dudes? I want to see what's out there before I die!"Why would they do that? There aren't nice little ethical answers here. These guys won't care that you've caught them in a convo that would be embarrassing if their mom was around. These are tall, attractive, athletic men. They are winning. It's wrong to sit here and go, "well are they being nice boys while they do it?" I'm humble enough of a person to realize that life could curb stomp me at any moment and at no point am I owed a memorial by the universe. We could be kidnapped and tortured and n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 07:23 PM |
| 8 | Does it not concern men that their low/no body count partner might one day realize "Hey I've only slept with 1 or 2 dudes? I want to see what's out there before I die!"she won’t know bad sex if she’s never had good sex. Will you admit you've framed this sentence, and I assume many more thoughts, comments, and assumptions with the idea that only the worst men are making these comments or feel this way. If you found out the hottest guy you imagine was able to kindly express this desire. He's not forcing any women to do anything. It's just his preference. (Also the answer can't be that he's simply inadequate in some non obvious way. Some people kickass in all cat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Serial monogamists are worse than sexual promiscuityWhich is important, because without the hyperbole what are they even trying to say? That there's just as much wrong with "serial monogamy" as there is with promiscuity? That we don't have as much to complain about promiscuity because monogamy can go just as wrong? People of all stripes can be undisciplined fools who trick themselves into thinking highly of themselves and let their habits cause self destruction. Being mature, respectable, and productive rather than all consuming and bouncing from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is the best way to deal with shit tests that are coming from women?The advice is to treat it like the insult that it is. Women shit test men they feel deserve to be tested. So you want to build up within yourself, the mentality that you do not require testing. Wake up, go to your job, go to the gym, partake in a worthwhile quality hobby, come home and finish your day. What is there to criticise in that layout? You are living your life and hopefully benefiting yourself by building practical and valuable skills. Once you are in this headspace, you realize how stu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/23 02:00 PM |
| 3 | Liberal women are probably the most judgmental and demanding when it comes to wanting Alpha qualities in a man.What a dodge! You almost broke my ankles through the screen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/23 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Men dont care about body count if the woman is prettyWhy wouldn't they. If I could eat all the sugar I wanted and then just poof become fit why wouldn't I. The argument I'm making is that monogamous commitment is a lifestyle. And the exercise one must do to be good at monogamy ISNT "having fun" with lots of guys. Please understand, I date woman who have slept around. I appreciate women like that. They are not bad people. But here on ppd we're working on the logic of it all. And you do not make any sense saying you want your cake and to eat it too.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Men dont care about body count if the woman is prettytriple digit body count She can have everyone in the world and chooses you Explicitly false. She's chosen MANY others first. I refuse to believe you all don't understand what is undesirable about that. "Oh society believes in true love and the One. Let me throw the widest net possible, prove I have no ability to discern, and then call the last person I end up with my true love so that consumer culture wins again, and we can sell everyone we know the lie that this is really it. We'll perpetuate t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/23 05:35 PM |
| 0 | Women do initiate most divorces and it is not because "paperwork"The reality is people are not perfect. Relationships and marriages are hard and it takes work. You have to decide when/if you want to walk away. Everything else is relevant but so is this. Life is suffering and many of the ones we love will be the ones to hurt us. But then there never really was anything here to begin with. Love is biological chemistry to protect the young. Marriage or monogamy are a prehistoric lie. People are not good enough to live in the same house for 35 yrs and not hurt th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 07:14 PM |
| 0 | Women do initiate most divorces and it is not because "paperwork"This is an important discussion to have around here. How perfect do we think a 35 yr relationship is? How good do we think 2 people can be over a lifetime. Isn't that what we've learned from the last half century? Our heroes all had skeletons. MLK, Babe Ruth, JFK? They all had flaws. This is where the Chappelle joke comes in. The hero who only rapes to save. And he saves more than he rapes. Cosby did a lot of good compared to his large amount of evil. Do we believe canceling a marriage because s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/23 05:58 PM |
| 8 | This entire subNice try, but we're gonna come right back down to reality here and explain that no, accountability & responsibility are not dog whistles for burning women at the stake. I have no power over women and I never did. It's not something I miss or know anything about. You're really dishonest for attempting to make our opinions look that bad. I'd argue if you come back with anything that paints "men" so broadly again, you actually cannot debate and shouldn't perceive yourself as mature enough to be her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/23 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: why don’t you prefer relationships?This is interesting to me personally. It brings up the traditional "game theory" aspect of this. Not "running game" or being a player but like the prisoners dilemma sort experiment. Girls want dominant guys. Guys can fake being dominant. Girls can be scammed by fake guys. Guys don't want girls who have been scammed. It leaves this no win scenario for men. Obviously women could make guys wait longer, possibly until marriage. But we all want instant gratification, fine, so we deal with the consequ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/23 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Silicon human size dolls are now made really realistically, and better looking than biological women, imagine when they are integrated with AI into cute fembot girlfriends, KO for womenTook a good ol' side step over to male violence. Thought that'd be your big bad yugio dragon card huh? "We started talking about women not respecting men as more than mere objects, oh no! Don't worry, I'll bring up the maniacs among their gender and get out of this!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/23 01:43 PM |
| 0 | women are not self-aware on how badly they treat menYou're fine my guy. I didn't get the impression you were hiding from the arrangement. You litererally described it for us. They're grasping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 08:43 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating?I really don't understand how that was bitter at all. I just stated what he said, I can accept this. I had originally replied to someone who said he was saying these women were "ruined" and then you brought up how he didn't view the women as "marriage material". So sometimes I conflate those two types of comments, but I can see now how you were just stating it. Whereas the previous commentor made me think they weren't engaging with the topic but were bitter that some women were described less th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating?If he wasn't participating, I think he'd have a stronger leg to stand on First of all I MIGHT believe this if you didn't phrase it so bitterly. Like it isn't simply an argument but you think he's reaping what he sown. Trp is concerned with if the method works, not if its moral. The post is valuable beyond if you think he's a hypocrite because other men want what works. We're past "what's right". I'm pretty sure most of his complaints were about temperament. Being entitled, boring, and fat were h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 03:16 PM |
| 2 | Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating?We're saying that women complaining about being unable to find a suitable partner after the hook-up culture, shouldn’t have been taking part in it. You can’t have your cake and eat it So you agree with trp? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 02:43 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone else feel like feminism has ruined a generation of women for dating?What is with the low effort straw men arguments in this thread? Is it the wrong time for reasonable commentors to be awake? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/22 02:31 PM |
| 2 | The main reason that sugar dating exist is that women want a guy to spoil them and pay her bills but not to have a "true" boyfriendWhile this is a point, that people of all kinds are corruptable, this does not supercede the ideas and opinions trp has on the modern sexual marketplace. If women are privileged to engage in something many of us view as less than proper, judging that trend is obviously a valid opinion. It doesn't detract from those opinions that other people, less privileged would be just as tempted were they presented such a choice. Even that argument, acknowledges that there is something less than attractive a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/22 09:46 PM |
| 1 | You can't complain about older men dating younger women if you're a young woman who only dates men who make $80,000 or more.I think your argument deserves to be contended with. That sounds like a real phenomenon you're throwing our here. My argument, and that's all I can postulate, is that they're "lying to themselves. Without putting people down, I think many blue pilled or normie people desire the world to be as rosy as they were raised to imagine. There's posts here everyday and I know guys personally who will say, "no way dude! She's too conventually hot for me. I like em chubby and a little older. So to me, ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/22 09:17 PM |
| 0 | Isn't it counter-intuitive for men who want sex to shame women for having sex?What if we just say, "yea so what?" Is that the whole thread. You're not allowed to police others preferences. Hypocrites can want hypocritical things and if they are capable of pulling it off then so be it. Is the point of this thread to get those guys to "quiet down" about that preference? Because while that is logical, its unnecessary to ask for. And it becomes sour grapes on your end that you're upset that people can complain about something you don't think they should complain about. If the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/22 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Are your responses to our posts based on the assumption that we are good people?They weren't simply asserting how they feel. It was an attempt to bring context to the way arguments are often made around here. Trp commentors disposition isn't what was important here. It's about a lot of the "I think morality should win around here" crowd. "Well if you act like that no women will like you" is something that gets said a lot here. And while it makes sense, it's precisely wrong in that many former nice guys accept trps rules and do better with women. This demonstrates why the pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 05:41 PM |
| 1 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesThe topic was, what is to be done about women giving shallow advice and then waffling when men try and parse out that advice and why it might not work. Maybe it did work for you. Different discussion. Yes you needed to reign in your "expectation" of sex at the end of all dates. But if you had just said "hope" then we could give your thoughts the benefit of the doubt as simply desires harmlessly revealing themselves to you, and the only way anything could go awry is if you act on poor thoughts. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 07:53 PM |
| 0 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesThey're saying that when men ASK women here what to do, they give these two pieces of advice. Either be up front or go be social and you'll naturally develop a relationship. The argument is, that when these methods don't work, and some harsher piece of advice would be neccesary, hit the gym, get successful, accept your fate and become witty, the ppd forum calls us incels for finding other solutions. "No no, you were trying to deceive women. Go be up front!" Switch to the other one! This line of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 05:31 PM |
| 10 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesThe op took a poke at women. So none of the replies or advice will be in good faith. Our prerogative is of no importance to them and they only have time for tittilation or fear. If you're flirting with a pretty women and making her happy, she will flourish and be happy. If you bring up something she doesn't wish to think about or makes her feel uncomfortable for having been only drifting through life from one instant gratification to the next, she will become defensive as only "dangerous" men do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 05:21 PM |
| 21 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesThis is EXACTLY what OP described. They were saying that when men use the advice WOMEN give them, be up front or relax and make friends, when the advice doesn't do anything, one should realize that women don't give good advice. On top of that, the women here will flip to the other bullet point, WHILE circlejerking about the hypothetical terrible men they know who used this exact advice. This is a specific red pill tenant. The useful advice is "ugly" and opportunistic. Instead of giving that advi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 05:01 PM |
| 6 | The women who advise men they should get to know women as "people" first before trying anything also crap on "sneaky nice guys" for having with ulterior motivesKeep swinging for the fences! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Whats with all the buzz around confidenceWell let me keep blabbering and give me your thoughts. Cuz I like what you just said, but I have trouble with the outcome not the guys deserved happiness. I saw it more as, the confidence does benefit the individual, but I thought the OP was saying that confidence isn't a good metric to determine partner value. Which I agree with. Because yes that other guy deserves to be valued for the person he is, but we as a society aren't seeing the true value in the over achiever because they are neurotic … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 01:57 PM |
| 1 | Whats with all the buzz around confidenceFair enough but I think the concept is valuable. I'm a very carefree self confident person. I have blind confidence in myself on the inside. But on the outside I act humble because it benefits me to take people's corrections and even criticism as I can learn or even evaluate where someone else is weak by how easily they feel the need to belittle me. I like this idea that confidence is something which can be faked or afforded to horrible individuals. I do not like the idea that it objectively ver… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 01:26 PM |
| 2 | Whats with all the buzz around confidenceWhich what, signifies your wider country is safe and your parents or familial unit has provided you with security and safety for long enough that you are blissfully unaware of how awful it could be were the safety nets to fail? Life is suffering was a valuable lesson. Those of us, myself included, who are free of that are usually worse off if we do not account for our privilege and work hard in spite of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Whats with all the buzz around confidenceCrumbles is the wrong word here. Its unnecessarily negative. Apprehensive might be appropriate. And it's conveys maturity not weakness. Which still allows for this scenario while not justifying choosing the naively optimistic as the "better" option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 01:14 PM |
| 2 | If most women wouldn't date a bisexual man why are fictional gay relationships so popular with straight women?gay fanfiction for shows like Supernatural, Sherlock romance movies/books like Love, Simon, Song of Achilles, Heartstopper, etc. are The women here often contradict what many of the men know and experience in day to day life. And I've got to give it to them, I don't think they're all lying. I'd imagine you're conflating a very nerd-accepting group of women with the basic Betty's of the world. I doubt my sister or cousins have ever even heard of supernatural or any of those books you mentioned. S… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/22 01:27 PM |
| 1 | Slutshaming isn't a widespread phenomenon anymore, the main issue nowadays is virginshaming.My point was that when things aren't illegal, I tread lightly because you become a "karen" or some sort of busy-body for policing people's thoughts and actions. Is talking trash on a sports field "wrong". I'd say no because you can exit the environment if you so feel. As well, THE REASON for trash talk is to get inside the opponents head, in a legal way, and win. So again, judging people in this sexual arena is legal, allowed, and if you want to walk away you can. I was the kind of kid who avoid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 09:11 PM |
| 4 | Slutshaming isn't a widespread phenomenon anymore, the main issue nowadays is virginshaming.Not "having to". It's easy. It's marketable and sells reliably. They most certainly could try and keep attention with other talents. I'll give you that our culture doesn't value all the women in orchestras and who can play classical piano, but as far as pop stars go, I mean, idk does lorde dress super skimpy? Not that I neccesarily consider her anything too special. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 06:54 PM |
| 1 | Slutshaming isn't a widespread phenomenon anymore, the main issue nowadays is virginshaming.What is the argument against judgement? I would argue that technically it is meant for art or how objective beauty is. Not just human but all of creation. But like, it's not illegal. And if someone says they don't like everything bagels, then I say, "woah you're missing out! I love em! And choose them on purpose, knowing full well that others choose other things." If someone says a chuck steak is better than a ribeye many people will judge that opinion. But there are many reasons to claim your o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Why do men go out of there way to put down women based on their appearance?It's actually super relevant to this very topic, that we cannot actually tell if people's tastes are based in reality or not a cope BECAUSE we simp so hard that everyone is just fine the way they are. So someone dates a heavier person, and says it's fine. But no one would let them admit, irl, that they aren't actually pleased with their choice. If you can't admit that you love your partner, but of course you'd love them fit and in shape, then how can we truly know that people's tastes are honest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 08:43 PM |
| 2 | The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crapI'd argue that "self control" is exhibited more than ONLY when you're at your job or somewhere important. Self control would be something I look for in a woman and if she ONLY exhibits self control with me but did whatever before that, that isn't a quality I'm impressed with. Women, as with everyone, used to understand that "the one" meant something. You can't sleep casually with guys, and then try and fairy tale up our meeting story because, "well I played hard to get and made him wait. It was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:43 PM |
| 1 | The idea that women hold off on certain sexual things with a guy because he’s “boyfriend” material is an utter load of crapI mean if having sex immediately with someone before wanting to pursue the relationship further is very important to you then that's fine. Most people are interested in getting to know someone a little bit more if they're interested in something more serious. The argument here is that, yes they do want to get to know the person more seriously. It's just that we ONLY want to get to know them more seriously if we think they're truly into us sexually. We believe in understanding the mating strategi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/22 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Study: “Women who are regular exposed to semen are less depressed”Jeez!! Good thing you caught this. We were just about to change everyone's medication because of this. Wow what a catastrophe! Good thing we don't all slam through several of these threads a day without learning or growing from any of them at all. You're either here to debate or to obfuscate. Would it really have hurt you or anyone else to simply give this thread the benefit of the doubt and see if you could have imagined something we would all find thought provoking. But you're right. What a gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 08:26 PM |
| 2 | People who say sex is a need don’t understand what needs are."So what you're saying is..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/22 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Men settle for me due to my tall height :(The people saying it are coping. It's like McDonald's saying that about customers that go to fine dining restaurants instead. "They're just intimidated." Showing that McDonald's won't accept that there's clearly better reasons for the choice than intimidation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/11/22 12:04 PM |
| 2 | The ideal red pill man and the ideal "blue pill" (or any other dating strategy other than red pill) man are essentially the sameI really like what was said at the start of this thread. Feels realistic. To give this guys anecdote some credence, would you say that the reason we focus on the physical appearance stuff and don't sugar coat things, is because a lot of the guys who need awakenings are going for girls who do care. Like sure if you attracted some short girl and you're short then great. But if we're giving advice to some clueless guy who's orbiting some real babe, then trp advice is what will work. For guys who ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 09:42 PM |
| 2 | Men are becoming less masculine and women are to blameOk so my main goal is simply to explain the logic of this. Not to say this is definitely the case or that you're wrong. How are men not to be blamed for single motherhood? Maybe the women picked what they thought were good dudes and the guys just can't step up. But also maybe, is that any woman can walk outside ask a crowd of men who wants to impregnate her, and someone will come forward and get the job done. Thus although that must not happen that often, it's certainly plausible that women poor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Men are becoming less masculine and women are to blameEveryone always says this. As if it isn't "easier" and more comforting to assume it isn't one sides fault. That would be a very safe space as well. "Oh no one's really at fault. We're all in this together. I don't know why you're miserable and detached, but obviously everything is fine and no one needs to work on anything." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 08:24 PM |
| -1 | What are the dangers about the red pill?Jeez ok good talk. Clearly I'm the awful one.🤙maybe try and be more like Cassie than visser 3 next time. ;P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 04:00 AM |
| 0 | What are the dangers about the red pill?Ok we disagree. Are you willing to walk back the idea that I don't go outside? Like maybe I've become misinformed. But again, I think it's convenient for all of you that you think we're just the absolute losers of the world. Which let's me think its convenient that you don't believe our premise about women. Because it's ugly to understand. But regardless, I'm being reasonable with you. Maybe I'm misinformed. But you accept I've been on dates? I've had long term gfs. I'm in my 30s and still flirt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 03:02 AM |
| -1 | What are the dangers about the red pill?Ok so that's not an insane perspective to have if you don't appreciate the content the way some of us do. But I'd argue that the distinction your REFUSING to look at is that we are correct about women. Even if just a little. Not an "evil cabal" but that women follow their imperative, our culture allows it, and it's got to a point that is less than flattering. Less than moral. And we desire to compare notes. So I understand that isn't an enticing reality to accept. I understand why you'd think le… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/22 02:32 AM |
| 2 | I never understood this concept when it comes to sexYou're right I was too harsh. And speaking out my ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 04:56 PM |
| 19 | I never understood this concept when it comes to sexThe first sentence says "many women". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 01:26 PM |
| 2 | How do you think we got here?Do you ever think that the speed of light is like more evidence that we're in some simulation or something "created". I heard someone recently work out, that even if you were able to travel at the speed of light or close to it, the microscopic debris in space would still simply whittle you're craft down at that speed. If you used the materials that would stand up to that stuff, you wouldn't go that fast. Like between the truly insane distances, the inability to travel at the necessary speeds, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/22 01:39 AM |
| 1 | Gender relations, and dating for men in particular, would be much improved if there weren’t so much societal pressure for men to get laidI'd check yourself. This is like the shittiest of worldviews. Being rich trumps attractiveness and everything else. You really want to reach that stupid number that no one even gives a fuck about 🤣😂 Get rich and I bet you’ll achieve it. I live in Miami, Florida. Broke men get zero attention here. Rich men have it all. You’re pretty slow for a 27 year old. Maybe focus on shit that women actually care about 🤣😂 Your money. I meet tons of hot guys here that aren’t getting pussy because they’re fucki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 06:07 PM |
| 5 | 30 Years is not old at all and stop listening to so much bad adviceThey just explained it. Its delusion. You WANT it to be true. It's nicer to speak and pretend that it is true. But simply because you tell your 30yr old friend that she's still got it and the young girls have nothing on her, doesn't mean it's true. It doesn't mean they've put in the work to eat right or work out. To get healthy amounts of sun & sleep. These things are hard and take dedication. And you say, "so there, some people can be prettier at 30 than 20. I win." And we say, "maybe, but you'… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 03:37 AM |
| 1 | 30 Years is not old at all and stop listening to so much bad advice1st comment>people also tend to think that they as an individual, are immune to statistical trends 2nd comment>Give an example please 3rd comment>Of course individual women may say they don’t care about men’s height, but in a large enough sample size of women Your comment>It's a perfectly valid want. Do you see how you've dodged the discussion to attempt to shame men for opinions on women's preferences. WHEN THAT IS NOT THE TOPIC. They were discussing whether or not an individual can be included… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 01:48 AM |
| 2 | 30 Years is not old at all and stop listening to so much bad advice30 or being in your 30s is old? Are you kidding me? You are still very young at that age and the guy that said he considers this to be middle aged is just insane Yup its not middle age. You found an anonymous person online saying something foolish. However, when we talk about dating, it is "older". No one is as interested in dating at 40 as they were at 17. It's not the same game. That's trp point. Maybe it gets repeated poorly by fools. Maybe it doesn't encompass all exceptions. Maybe someone e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/22 01:29 AM |
| 1 | Your partner should be your best friend. Everything else is just details.This is a dodge. They made a perfectly cogent point and you're doing a fantastic job of missing the obvious. And then waving your hands and saying, "no! Over here!" when you have no excuse but to understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Body count doesn't matter as much as being her best. thoughts?You're correct you just seem to have surrendered your agency. A super hot girl will have said opportunities and I am understanding of her situation. So guys who don't prefer a high n will not choose these women. That's all your argument is. "You're gonna have to settle for these women. Theyre all there is." Correct. No i wont be settling. Just because society is set up a certain way does not mean I have to compromise my goals or principles. It doesn't mean I have to settle. It doesn't mean I can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/22 12:00 PM |
| 0 | PPD would be far more neutral if people would stop turning general statements into personal attacksI do think you're making a logical point. This is the problem with being 10 or so years into this topic. We're all well past the context of all this. For example, there is no way I'm leaving this thread before leaving a comment that this post was projection. In the sense that NOTHING of trp gets discussed around here without women jumping in going, "I have a short boyfriend!", "my friends date ugly guys.", "my boyfriend has no money & no friends." As if that is relevant! It's not, you don't fit … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 06:27 PM |
| 1 | Body count doesn't matter as much as being her best. thoughts?This is important for this sub though. Like that IS what happens. I'd like a low n count girl. Think I've dated one? Not since I was 18. So you guys could let us win this argument that this is men's preference. But we never get it. We're shamed for it. And we compromise all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 11:47 AM |
| 1 | Body count doesn't matter as much as being her best. thoughts?Silly argument. Compromises would be made there in reality. Like they'd take the super model and swallow the disgust. Does your argument hold up if you ask those guys if they'd prefer to be scar joes 3rd instead of 18th? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 11:42 AM |
| 0 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipPeople who are truly happy and content with their lives don’t need to flaunt it I completely agree. And yes that is the world I'd like to live in. But I think we live in an instant gratification risk addicted society and I do not like people saying, "no no, I'm totally happy with what I have. The fact that I'm not "winning" and living an Instagram life is totally fine with me." I don't believe any large proportion of people spouting this. And yes I get what you're saying in that quiet normie peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 08:12 PM |
| -1 | Relationship with the " Bad boy " is labeled as toxic only cause the woman invest more in the relationshipHowever, it is in one's interest to speak highly of their stable relationship. I know I would and that's the type of relationship I'd like. But because of this, we won't know if the people in the relationship truly want it. If they wouldn't take a more titillating partner given no strings attached. It's like me saying, "well I didn't want to win the PowerBall anyway. It's gonna ruin the person's life." Yea I said some words. And there's even an argument attached. But I'm lying. I'd take the $ an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Complaining about high N-count women is a fundamental misunderstanding of the red pill principles.I said it does happen. I explained why it isn't important or prudent to spend time contending with it. That an honest actor would know that isn't the interesting parameter to focus on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Complaining about high N-count women is a fundamental misunderstanding of the red pill principles.As the other poster you're speaking to noted, these positions aren't mutually exclusive. You may be able to say this to weak loser men. Guys who are unsuccessful and don't improve themselves should clear their mind of problems and focus on solutions. But you're advice will never be right for adults. If I am perfectly happy with my station in life, consider myself a winner socially, and can still find interest in discussing the anecdotal and hypothetical interpersonal relations of the sexes then … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 01:31 PM |
| 5 | Complaining about high N-count women is a fundamental misunderstanding of the red pill principles.The complaining starts after someone properly rebuts an OP like the commentor above did. Then someone comes in with this comment, as was predictable, and SHOWS US for the 1,000th time that none of you are listening. No matter how reasonable we try and be, you just jump right to, " you're just angry, some other anonymous poster said something heinous and I'm gonna hold that against you." So yea then we start whinging about how fucked we are and maybe it isn't pretty. But in no God damn way does i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 01:18 PM |
| -1 | Saying that womens sexuality is more complex describes the transactional nature of relationshipsFor these women who have “wild nights” with random men. Do think they do that every day ? Like it’s part of their daily routine ? Of course not it’s usually a rare occasion That’s completely different from a man who is treating you as a live in sex doll and expect to be serviced 24/7. The women only go out occasionally but the guy (metal music plays) needs it 24/7!! He needs to be serviced mwuahahaha!! So that was an entirely unfair comparison. Shows your bias to paint women in a generous light … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/22 12:41 PM |
| 0 | A woman’s past is important for men in the same way that a man’s height is important to womenYou may have made this argument in good faith, so I don't want you to take this criticism just for you. But I don't think what we're dealing with here is "criticism". Like we wouldn't be having this argument if the women just didn't like our opinion. There are lots of people I leave alone with their opinion. We are having this discussion because the way the women react when we bring this up, makes us feel that we HAVE to win this argument. I get the impression that the response to "low n women a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 09:29 PM |
| 0 | Women should lie about their N-countThe only valid point here is that you don't like the guys here DISCUSSING THIS TOPIC. As this poster pointed out, if everyone sorts themselves properly, then there isn't even a problem. "The problem" as you see it is that we of trp WANT to discuss this. Even if it isn't effecting us literally, we want to sit here and parse out the ethics and logistics of this issue. And you find either the topic or the way in which we discuss is distasteful. Not illegal or anything you can have stopped, just ups… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Consider Sex a "Reward" Seem to Forget Women Should Also Be Enjoying ItI'm fairly certain this entire post is a strawman. You describe hot guys getting to do whatever they want to girls. And boring guys get less enthusiastic sex. You conflate from this that either set of men is only thinking of themselves during this cooperative act and that either manner of sex is pointless for women because regardless of whether the guy is attractive, he's somehow managing to only make the act pleasurable for himself and then end it before she gets anything. (Then there is a para… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 09:22 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?My argument is in correlation with how we use apex fallacy around here. Women only acknowledge hawt guys. She's not talking to any guys besides hawt guys. One of them slept with her and bounced and she's been ruminating about him ever since. And the only thing she can think of when making a new profile is how can I hurt that hawt guy. So she's writing out her "victim hood" in a petty stupid attempt that if he were to see it and reach out, even incels aren't this wishful, she can say, " you hurt … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Women do not need to be sympathetic to mens dating strugglesI can't be sure obviously, but it's something I notice, we might be talking to an "old" woman. And the old women, as we all know, don't have sexual power anymore. So they started this trend, where school mom energy let's them police all the boys by correcting what they say and how they say it. Rough housing is obviously out of the question. But now they come for our words and thoughts. And thats where their power lies now. In policing our "kindness". Disliking women isn't illegal but jeez the wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?The mental gymnastics here is unreal. Drop the bs pity party. This always means we're a little too far down the thread. I'm hoping that most of the guys who actually have any rp knowledge here, can simply list a whole bunch of tenants. Nice and calmly. THEN everyone comes in, shames them, appeals to emotions by asking why we don't respect women at all, and baits the guy into a justification. It's incorrect to come here and tell us we all need therapy. That we aren't here for an intellectual reas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:15 PM |
| 3 | Men don't live the same life , and it's crazy assuming they are all the sameI'm specifically calling someone out for something I felt was low effort and held us all back. I don't see how that relates to how I'd treat someone I'm attracted to and have things in common with. I mean how else can I interpret what you just said as MORE infighting and inability to give an argument the benefit of the doubt. Just extrapolate some sentences I said to all ppd men, totally misinterpret what I said to act as if it would apply to all interactions in my life, and simply further smear… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 10:53 PM |
| 5 | Men don't live the same life , and it's crazy assuming they are all the sameHow is this worthwhile? How can you look yourself in the mirror and go, "well I took the most pedantic part of their argument, twisted it up with the bitterness we all have here, and threw it back with no nuance." Just a copy and paste sentiment that's spread here 1000x every day. I'm not saying you don't have worthwhile stuff to say. But this, "one more chirp at men. Maybe the 1,000,000th cut will do it." is a waste of all our time. To add something, we all know about the apex fallacy, right. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 10:10 PM |
| 3 | What should an inexperienced man do?I agree. And yea it all requires a guy who can forgoe immediate desires and gratification. Show some will power while being a decent person. Wishful thinking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 08:58 PM |
| 4 | What should an inexperienced man do?You may have a point when it comes to teaching children what to do. But trp IS specifically dating strategy focused. The advice was good, would work, and is repeatable. The rest of your assumptions, how someone might feel if he were to lay out his plans, which why would he, is irrelevant because how would someone find out that this human isn't being friendly for friendliness sake. Unless they go after girl-friends who aren't into them. I don't think we have an answer for that one either. Those g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 08:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: it’s harder for women to be sexually fulfilled in monogamous relationships than men.That's all well and good. Maybe most women should go their own way. Simple answer. But it's clear you're REAL aim is throwing shade. Your statement doesn't make the argument that an intelligent, emotionally stable, adult woman cannot find a suitable partner. You're saying "most women won't find that." Ok, end of discussion. Hurting guys will help you deal with trp? It's not going anywhere. What's the point here? I'm not going to stop reading trp Mom, just because you can throw shit back at me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 09:41 PM |
| 2 | CMV: it’s harder for women to be sexually fulfilled in monogamous relationships than men.Not all men are individuals we, as men, are willing to stand up for. And as a matter of fact, the women who "got smashed" has more responsibility in making that guy make sense. I've never given that guy a second thought I guarantee you. (I definitely think some large amount of people are fools. That's how I write that off. If I had any power to influence those men's integrity and ability to hold themselves to a better standard, I would.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 09:33 PM |
| 1 | Women aren't looking for wealthy guys, they are looking for guys that splurgeNot relevant and you should have known that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/22 02:38 PM |
| 0 | The other reason I think it's a ok to be strategically ambiguous is that when you make your intentions clear women will act like you're leading women on anywayTreating this like we're gonna get through to people like his mom and sisters sitting him down is lame. It's the internet. The argument is something like, how do we get women, who want casual sex, to respect(?) or reward honesty and not a game? Because guys can figure the game out and point it out for other guys. The worst guys. That's not their problem or their responsibility or anything like that. That's the rest of society's responsibility to have propriety and decorum so we can shame those w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 12:24 AM |
| 2 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meNow that's a good point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 04:40 PM |
| 3 | The idea that women will hit the wall and will suddenly need men and give lower SMV guys a chance seems like a bluepill fantasy to meI think a lot of trp is men pushing back against what we see as female control of logic and emotions. So for instance, I may be with a woman over 30. I love her, feel she is beautiful. But as a human, I'm aware when a fit 22yr old girl walks by that she is a pinnacle of beauty. But female culture would have us "KNOW" in our minds that our wife is actually the most beautiful thing we've ever seen. Ever. The men want to live in a world where we say, "I love my wife and I think she's beautiful. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 01:02 PM |
| 7 | [CMV] Plausible deniability numbers game is the ideal strategy for most menI saw a clip like this yesterday on that Pearl girls channel. They caught some women hamstering, and she turned around and said, "whatever, the best solution is to just be honest with women." Something about is it worth it for girls to sleep around. They enable the guy to get what he wants and they claim they want casual but the ones who want commitment are out of luck. But as to her "be honest" comment. It's a lie. It's just so betas are honest with her and she can move on. The guys who she sle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyGot an opinion on the pop "alpha wolves was a lie" idea. Like obviously maybe that researcher did a bad job or recanted afterwards, but they don't seem to say there aren't structures and leaders. It seems suspiciously close to,"the researcher became or was bullied by bleeding hearts, and now they recant their conclusion." I'm still tempted to believe that a male and female run the pack and use aggression as a tool to establish the hierarchy. Thoughts? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Men should stop blaming feminism for the problems in societyI also think it's a double edged sword. You want a guy who will kick the shit out of some dude for giving you a weird look at a bar? Plus how many times can a guy be violent before it effects your life. Like how many people can he agress towards before one of them was just you being petty and now your guy is arrested and will lose some work or maybe his job. The world was different when you could say,"come on guys take it outside." And let them go home as long as they didn't maim each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/10/22 06:30 PM |
| -7 | Can you tell when you've encountered a "post-wall woman?" What are they like?Humans age. Men and women are less attractive as they age. Why is this shocking? But honestly, most older women I know are doing just fine. Most older women I know enjoyed their 20s and are too busy enjoying their 30s and 40s to care too much about what sexless males online are saying Pick one. Honesty, delusion, or hand waving/hostility. This feels like trp in a nutshell. Maybe you'll admit to some of our stuff for a moment. Nope "actually everything's gonna be just fine!" Is it bitter obsessed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 12:41 AM |
| 1 | Can you tell when you've encountered a "post-wall woman?" What are they like?Ok, good arguments. But you're arguing against what are supposed to be cold hard truths. It's like you're saying we don't need to acknowledge the moon when it's on the other side. We still experience the tides. Just cuz i don't know you were prettier doesn't make it not true. Feel however you want to feel. We shouldn't be half a decade maybe a decade into arguing about this sort of objective reality. What is the point in arguing this way anyway. We aren't supposed to be arguing FOR beauty anyway… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/22 12:31 AM |
| 4 | People who complain about the pull yourself up by your bootstraps philosophy will still use it for dating.It's not like I don't like your argument. I agree that looking at the end result isn't a pretty picture. But as someone who gets laid and came to trp because of empathy I had for sexless friends, I do WANT to be here discussing this topic. I choose to think about ways to raise boys better. To better equip men to NOT END UP in the position of undesirable. I agree that not much or sometimes nothing at all can be done to fix people in the now. But this seems like something we can "save" future gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 08:34 PM |
| 4 | Men’s expectation of women to help/pity “socially akward men” is sexist and dangerous.Some of the commentors here play devils advocate. Like yea they do disagree with what's said, but they make it an exercise in "how much can I disagree? How far from the middle ground can I take us? How poorly can I frame OP so that they simply want to stop talking because they seem evil & ignorant? It's actually pretty interesting to think what this place would be like if we were all working together. This was a good topic. Not the way OP framed it. But the idea of being nicer to a group(volunta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 05:20 PM |
| 2 | Women who won't see a man who's visited prostitutes, how would you even know that they have?I really liked this answer. Makes me think I can feel good about further expanding on my ideas, that I'm not wasting my time. It's just that more explanation is necessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 04:50 PM |
| 3 | Women who won't see a man who's visited prostitutes, how would you even know that they have?Then why make it about n count at all? Just say you don't like women who smoke? Or women who have tattoos or whatever? It's all much more direct, observable, and has better prediction powers. N counts are just a red herring. Do you think a lot of trp, here in ppd specifically, is waffling and floundering. Like I like trp and that's my team, but you make a good point. I feel like in our sub we used to be more honest and direct which would lead to what you said. Here we are constantly trying to ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Women who won't see a man who's visited prostitutes, how would you even know that they have?You don't think it's simply a case of being rich and then having will power or not? Like if I win the lottery, I say I'd like to keep my old car and not show off. But if I make other rich friends and start hanging out in rich venues, then I'll be tempted to fit in and go with my new friends to rich events. I'll want ewatches and bejeweled phone cases. I'd see it like that. Guys want pretty girls. Pretty girls have access to a lot of guys. A pretty girl who somehow waits and doesn't indulge in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/10/22 02:12 PM |
| 3 | If you were good at sex, you'd be having it.Premise: if you were good at sex you'd be having it. Refutation: >But women on the other hand are having sex EVEN if they are bad at it. Thus: the parameter isn't simply being bad at sex. Because people who ARE bad at sex still have it. So maybe you're saying some black pilled thing about guys. Not all guys meet a standard for reproduction. We should probably let little boys know this early on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 10:46 PM |
| 0 | If you were good at sex, you'd be having it.As long as your ok admitting the ends justify the means. That you're ok catering to base animal instincts which go directly against treating people with kindness & compassion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 07:32 PM |
| 2 | If you were good at sex, you'd be having it.Humans capable of using reason like this and with the ability to comprehend the arguments you've just made, are getting less and less satisfaction out of being capable to do so. Scary indeed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 07:03 PM |
| 3 | If you were good at sex, you'd be having it.That is such a dodge from how they just refuted your argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/10/22 01:43 PM |
| 0 | The feud between RP men and alpha feminists is unnecessaryIt only becomes a problem when men use foul language I don't find this distinction necessary. What is the point of anyone getting all upset over language? If you get upset by language you now know a weakness of yours and can work on that. And you know nothing about me nor can you change me. We all only have the power to control ourselves. That's supposed to be easy & obvious. I resent having a mother around on the internet. This is anonymous and SHOULD be for adults. Is it illegal to use foul la… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 10:42 PM |
| 2 | in some parts of RP and BP circles there is this belief that women ‘share’ the top % of men - where does this idea stem from?Yea but it's so silly to derail arguments in here because a word isn't perfect. We allllll can see how close to sharing or how guys will have ideas similar to "sharing" that it doesn't matter if that one word doesn't fit perfect. We can now get on with why guys care. If they should care. Should the women care? Shutting it down isn't interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 07:52 PM |
| 1 | Have you ever turned a woman down for her body count?Can you handle if you're wrong? What if he does know what he's talking about? Stay safe in your doubt ;) you're just arguing against losers for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/22 01:12 PM |
| 2 | The lock and key analogy is irrational, because it entails a premise that isn't agreed upon to begin withThis is a good example of there being several different camps here in PPD. You have a valid point but I do feel that it is sideways to the current topic. You validate that a lot of people would prefer people not sleep around much if at all, and add points to the idea that the people arguing against these ideas can probably actually see our point and are TRYING to convince themselves otherwise. not as special This is what I take from it. I've already lived with several women. Hung out with one of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/22 02:22 PM |
| 0 | Delight and Camaraderie in HumiliationAt some point in the past it was legit. But at this point it's being sold to us. -At&t says "everyone gets the best phone at the best price!" So its not the best price and no one is special. -the banks tell you you deserve to be seen and taken seriously. They just want your money. When a platitude is too easy, you have to search for why it's being said and if you're a target. "Girls can do anything!" There I just said it. It took no effort. I didn't have to see any girls "do anything" nor do I h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/22 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countFair. I know I agree. Im much more focused on who you slept with. If it was 50 dudes you knew well and I thought they were worthwhile, then yea I can come to terms with a lot for the right person. If you slept with jerks who I wouldn't hang with then I don't like what that says about a girl. I'm mostly red pilled in that I like a lot of the old school manly stoicism. "Women can't live with em, can't live without em." brings up men's relation to love in a way I like. They did love, but they weren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 08:22 PM |
| 3 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countBut IRL, when you’re attractive and dating other attractive people, people do not care about n-count or virginity and definitely don’t talk about it as much as men on here do I agree with all this. I'm a tall guy and I'm shy but I know how to play the clown. So I do fine. That's important to me. That I agree with most of what you've said about the real world. And I agree that most of the other guys here aren't arguing from my position. I think there is a lot of sour grapes here. But that's not m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:32 PM |
| 2 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countBut like is that what you're here for? To crusade against sexist opinions? Because it's not like I want you banned or to be some rule stickler. But you'd certainly think that a forum about debating the red pill would include a disclaimer that you should probably be prepared to grapple with the red pill ideas. I'm arguing that you're edging close to the stuff I say being ban-able and I'm trying to say that you should at least be ok with the subject matter if you're here. What is your perception o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 07:26 PM |
| 7 | Men desire virginity because women lie about body countIt's not some weird PPD fixation. Why can't we acknowledge where we are?! You are debating red pill ideas. It's uncomfortable truths. Men desire paternity certainty. The majority are poor sexually and do not want a woman who was rich who doesn't understand their struggles. Who will mock those struggles because they were so easy for her. Who doesn't realize the sideways smile another dude would give your guy if he heard your girl say that. "Oh yeah dude, we were just exploring our sexualties. Fig… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/10/22 02:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?That's fair. I agree. I just went to college with a very specific group of nerds. I'm stereotyping the whole situation to see if others snag on and agree. But I like your nuanced take more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?I completely agree. The obvious truth seems to be stop participating on this sub. It seems past It's prime. On the other hand, I do have a problem with WHO it seems, runs the internet. I believe that a lot of the problems we see here, and what bits have bled into the real world, are mostly perpetrated by the unsullied. People who you wouldn't hang out with. People you would walk away from or avoid at parties(I don't think they'd even be at a party). We are being misled, via the internet, to list… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 05:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?I consider that (generally) to be a given in terms of the basis for questions asked here. It's a very big deal to me that ideas aren't given the benefit of the doubt. It shows were not starting at 0. a query about whether "Sarah" is showing "Mark" disrespect and demonstrating to him that he isn't really all that (and so she's not terribly interested). Not whether "Mark" deserves sex, or whether "Sarah" is obligated to give it to him. It's so obvious when someone is able to engage with a "questio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?This isn't about men internalizing trp. On this sub we're bashing our skulls against concrete trying to get the average person to see things the way you've described. That your take isn't insane is the goal. No progress has been made. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?They basically dismissed his inquiry by saying, "you're not the right person to ask this question. You have a bias and your perspective won't allow for an objective analysis of this topic." I understand the commentors desire to bring perspective to the situation, but this is a bitter place. Do I think they then went on to properly address the question, having properly provided context. No. I think they used the context to shut down the conversation. To say, "if you say too much more, I'm going t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 02:18 PM |
| 0 | Q4W: Is it okay to make relationship material men wait for sex?Is a question a question or is it an excuse to out you? If Charles Manson tells you murder is wrong, is he right? This is pretty indicative of the atmosphere around here. We don't have a debate sub. We have a place where foolish men who think they understand trp come to be mocked and ridiculed by "the rest of you"? It's pretty obvious that men have questions. When we are treated like little hitlers for having questions, maybe people shouldn't be so shocked when we don't come to you for answers t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 09:10 AM |
| 4 | CMV: the N count double standard is unfair, but so is being rejected for reasons beyond your control.That is what you're hoping.in the same way that I don't know who you are, we don't know who you are. And you definitely don't know what you've stated for a fact. It just makes you feel better. "Team nice for the win! Let's go get milkshakes!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/22 02:57 PM |
| 1 | Women rate themselves 10 of 10 in looks all the time and call each other DIVA and Queens and its okay, a Man rates himself highly or just says he is handsome AF, the women will say he is full of himself and its a turn off. why?Nope. We can have discussions without including every other aspect of reality. And men can most certainly acknowledge that lots of dudes are shit and we avoided them before you ladies did. Men don't control the top men and ladies are the ones enabling them. Not to mention, this is like clockwork. 1.Men make a thread about women. 2. Women ignore discussing the topic and enriching us all with learning and open mindedness. (It's an anonymous thread that will drift into the aether. None of this gets… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/22 12:13 PM |
| 0 | Dating a woman who was promiscuous is questionable is based on the type of men she has been with, not necessarily the numberI do agree in normal society, but I actually think you guys owe us more when here in PPD. Like here, you ARE the blue pill. If you're just here to argue dating dynamics and get upset whenever someone says something red pill do you really deserve to walk around not understanding the situation. I get it, it's just normie thinking outside here. But there are people here who want trp crushed. You're here to debate us. Not co opt this place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 10:03 PM |
| 2 | Dating a woman who was promiscuous is questionable is based on the type of men she has been with, not necessarily the numberCome on. The blue pilled here have backed us into a corner. You guys never agree with us on anything. You give us the least charitable interpretations, calling us mysoginistic(I remain confident I do not hate women because I'm ok with mean words), backwards, and evil. This is simply a reaction to that. We think we have you guys on this one topic. And so trp is pushing it. Obviously the guys who used this place to get women are gone, and the only ones left are the ones who care about this stuff f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/22 06:36 PM |
| 2 | Do redpill guys feel love?This sort of thinking can make one lazy I'm afraid. "Well you can't be discerning and critical about every aspect of life. So I won't give difficult thoughts the attention they deserve because "live laugh love". Some of us CHOOSE critical thinking above all else. I don't go into people's homes and turn off the Kardashians and then argue they aren't living life to the fullest. There are plenty of ways people are wasting their lives. Taking a critical consciously non rose-colored glasses approach … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Do redpill guys feel love?Be careful that YOU don't believe that. That you're blue pilled simply because you refuse to accept ANY aspect of trp. And mostly because they're "mean" and brush up against things YOU DESIRE. That's the whole point. We all want attractive people to be calm with their sexual advantage, play the game fairly(ie: not sleep around with as many people as they can, because the rest of us are willing to be lead on by pretty people.) and then settle down into stable relationships. But that isn't what ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/22 06:32 PM |
| 0 | The average guy has only incentives to focus every dating energy he has on casual sex for as long as he can, and no incentives to focus on long term relationshipsIt should be accepted that if you're commenting about dating in a trp related sub, then we wamt/need/will be going further into the topic than, "well I just love her man." We are specifically the guys who overanalyze this shit. We definitely think you're under thinking it and that it is certainly not just love. That one can understand love as biological processes and not simply be blissfully ignorant about the situation at hand. This is definitely how you end up wifing the town bicycle. "It does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI'm definitely willing to find a nuanced middle. Some minority of therapy is administered by the best therapists and they set themselves up with the rare individual who has everything else in their life set up so that change in a troubled area can occur. Do I think the rest of the industry is a little predatory and selling something they can't provide, yea I do. I agree with your logic. I usually use that argument that if most people are doing it then it needs to be more than just hand waved awa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI don't know how many guys I have on my side but I personally reject the idea that expressing my feelings has very much value at all. I think we've let society run away with that idea. Women express their feelings and women are great so men should express their feelings. I've known so few people that therapy has helped(just my anecdote). I know so few people who've actually changed who they are in a fundamental way or because they consciously chose to change. I feel society is inundated with peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 04:58 PM |
| – | College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?It is WAAAAAAY too late in the game to think this would work. Yea everyone, the guys here are just out of the blue bitter about double standards and the ability to meritocratically set up society, and specifically the military here. Yup there definitely isn't any context to appreciate. … of course, I’ll bet you don’t like strong, aggressive combative, violent women either? Is someone supposed to be in favor of aggressive violent demographics? I'm willing to denounce them all right here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 07:10 PM |
| 1 | RedPill - sexual deviancy and casual sex is bad for society. Why endorse it instead of building families?The Dark Knight (2008) Lucius Fox: [to Reese] Let me get this straight, you think that your client, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante, who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your plan is to blackmail this person? So you're plan was to come to trp and try and shame us back into good behavior? That name calling was our weakness? That all we needed was some moral goody twoshoes to come by and drop some kindness bomb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Does someone’s past matter?I would prefer if we took this as an opportunity. Neither party here reduced down to ad hominem. I don't feel that they were super triggered or exaggerating. I think we should take this as the debate we desire here. Obviously your side didn't change its mind either. Let's see that for what it is and not need to declare one side obtuse or evil at the end of every thread. They gave you back their view point. That is what can be boiled down more now. Not simply that they won't change their mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Does someone’s past matter?I'm totally down with men being able to do this. Lets discuss n count, the past matters, all that is fine with me. I'm curious if the quality of guy effects the relevance of the n count at all? Like for me, I'm upset that women sleep with losers and criminals, and then get to live life with the confidence of those interactions. I'm someone who buys into the key & lock metaphor. I think girls hang out with guys with $ or dangerous dudes and then they bring those tendencies back to the dating mark… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 04:43 PM |
| 6 | Women fuck emotionally distant men, and keep "good communicators" in the friendzoneThis sort of stuff is wishful thinking. The OP explained why standards are shit. If you want in on the game, play the game. We're well past the point where moralizing matters because the group causing the jaded bitter attitudes won't stop either. Dealing with what happens when you start winning is a bridge that can be crossed at that time. And by then you might be emotionally stable to no longer need what you'd get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 10:44 PM |
| 2 | Is "the wall" something that really happens to women and affects them more than men?But why deny that aging affects one's value in dating? Why are we doing that? Is it just because saying it doesn't is nice? "Omg guys on this forum talk about women past 27 aren't as desirable as they used to be. Well I gotta get on there and tell them that I think older women are just super sexy." (Not OP) Trp was bro science mixed with undeniable extrapolation from that. So guys were like, "people become undesirable at some point. Let's figure out when that is." So that's obviously gonna have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 03:35 PM |
| 1 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.Isn't this comment very similar. Like I'm not saying you're wrong, but you're just sort of scolding me? For being deeply depressed by others inability to care about things I seem deeply depressed about? Who cares if I'm better than them? We're all still screwed. I don't know what to do and that's not something I can be blamed for failing at. If it had been so easy to come up with something maybe you would have. Instead of replying to an upset person with "why don't you find an answer instead of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:03 AM |
| 1 | The shameful Natasha Aponte experiment, "The Tinder Trap", shows just how desperate men are and how much choice women have.Just another amazingly based take being screamed into the void. Whenever I try and bring this stuff up to my own mother & sister , "oh well you just sound angry when you talk like that." Like that's what's important?! How I sound. The words I used. I love my family but my mindset is hurt by the fact that they can't entertain ideas if they're a little mean. It's just so defeating. We're all gonna burn society to the ground because people refuse to hear uncomfortable thoughts. Enjoy your 25-60 upv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 12:43 AM |
| 16 | What will happen to current dating situation in the future ?I heard something the other day. Someone said that these countries which had bread lines, could have eventually set up more lines. It doesn't solve the problem but it's more efficient. But then they realized, waiting in line for several hours at the end of your work day, just to make dinner, removes any more time you would have to organize or chaotically revolt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 08:21 PM |
| 6 | which gender studies and understands more about the other gender?Because they get away with it. There are movements to accept bbws AS beautiful. If the teacher says you get a B instead of a C most beings take the gimme because nature is kill or be killed. I'm no fan of body positivity, but it's not shocking to me that people grab the opportunity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/22 07:41 PM |
| 1 | “Tired of taking care of a grown child”What's red pill about you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/22 01:41 PM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Look I don't care about a lot of stuff. I'm lazy and unambitious. No career. My 5 gfs have asked me out. When I go out people hit me up and if I'm myself they walk away. If I play this game and "flirt" then everyone likes me. That's all I'm saying. I'd let a girl act the same way. In a lot of ways I am blue in action. I don't escalate well, I'm not a leader. But I'm red in thinking. I'll let you explain to me why I'm a cuck and then try and change. I'm not gonna lash out and make excuses. But it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I'm pretty into trp. Even I know for sure, that I would prefer the kind of girl who can go out, have a good time, BE A LITTLE FLIRTATIOUS, and then reign it in before it goes to far. Part of the ugly trp take on this IS that I think enjoying talking to basic bitches is flirting. Like they only have fun energy when you're using push/pull. I'm a decently attractive tall guy, and the way girls show disinterest in me if I bring something nerdy up, is why I'm here. If I just play the game and make li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/22 07:59 PM |
| 7 | What would you say to a man who didn’t DNA test his kids because he trusted his wife and she still cheated on him?Not that I agree with your sentiment, but the point is fine. My example wasn't perfect. I do agree that a well adjusted adult might as well stay in a child's life if the spot needs filling. But this is devils advocate then right? It's not the right argument to be making here. You're arguing in favor of making the best of a bad situation. How is it then inappropriate for us here at trp to foster and spread the idea that men are aware of paternity fraud. To try and spread the societal message of s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:21 PM |
| 1 | What would you say to a man who didn’t DNA test his kids because he trusted his wife and she still cheated on him?That's obviously fine. Children are great. I'm in that camp. It's quite the sidestep to make that something inescapable in this discussion. This weird crushing humiliation that a spouse feels when their "significant other" chooses someone else for something your "one" was supposed to choose you for is the topic. Be nice to kids. Done. Let's move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:16 PM |
| 35 | What would you say to a man who didn’t DNA test his kids because he trusted his wife and she still cheated on him?This answers the OP- sit down. Shut up. We'll pat you on the head for being a good boy. Having a nice picture is more important than the truth and the splinter in your mind. Girl solidarity above all else. I mean how else do you justify what you just said. "The ends justify the means." If I found out my wife was giving some large portion of her paycheck to a another couple so they could have kids is that justified too? Like any "good" outcome outweighs dishonesty, ruthlessness, or selfishness. "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 11:03 AM |
| 1 | Do women need to have a hoe phase"Mysoginy! Mysoginy! He has to stop talking over here." It's not the case. No one cares. Say something constructive. This is exactly the forum for these type of ruminations. Which is precisely all they are. You are concern trolling and not adding anything of value to the discussion. And for the record I am actually the dude who gets to worry about what other women do. I dub him worthy. Now what do you have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 05:36 PM |
| 1 | How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%?This is a desire for censorship. This user will not stop until we cannot speak on this topic. If you follow the way they speak about us, the language leaves little room for peace. We're mysoginists, which isn't illegal but I'd bet all my money they wish it were. We're part of a cult. Which again idk the legality of but I don't know any good cults. We're all marks being played and scammed, so shut down manosphere because grifting is going on. Something will hit the mark eventually. And I just wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 03:04 PM |
| 0 | Do men want career focused women?Regardless, I'd prefer if you spoke to the WAYS in which this helps your relationship. Not simply that you are an exception. Because that's how that convo would end. "Oh that's just your specific scenario. It's not common." So the interesting aspects of your argument, as long as you insist on using yourself as an example, would be why your bf is ok with it. He must be able to hold his own anyway, and just happens to make less. Your with a guy who COULD make a lot and doesn't. So he has confidenc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 07:13 PM |
| 5 | Do men want career focused women?It's up to you to give SOME users here the benefit of the doubt and acknowledge that THIS is not one of those guys. You are correct. Those dudes are fools. Those of us who would like to have constructive criticism cannot be held back by( maybe even you on a troll account) any anonymous random spewing nonsense. In all fairness the guy you're replying to should probably agree with your claim but his point is something I agree with. I think it's real. And I'm egalitarian. I'd be a stay at home dad.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/22 07:04 PM |
| 8 | Women really dislike autistic menThey are stuck on "gotcha-ing" the OP. If we can find out the OP was actually being a mysoginist then the whole topic can be pushed aside. Non of your worthwhile thoughts or points need be contended with. This will all be another dragon they slayed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Some women are ring pop women and some women are diamond ring women and there's nothing wrong with that.As well, I feel like we leave out a pretty big part of this discussion. From the male perspective it seems like women are being taken advantage of. You as a guy might know that guys is a jerk. You might have real examples of him being terrible. The girl sleeps with him, he forgets about her. And now she's walking around going, "well I wanted to do debaucherous stuff with him. That was a win." From the guys perspective, it's like you didn't get what you wanted. You wanted him, he took what he wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Some women are ring pop women and some women are diamond ring women and there's nothing wrong with that.And for all of this "women want modernity and tradition", so do men. If men are so worried about a woman's past, why aren't they wifing women up left and right when they're young? This first: I'd agree with you as I'm not one of these guys. But a lot of trp is these guys and this argument is over pretty quick when you realize that's who's talking. They CANNOT get girls young as the girls won't choose them. This is a side issue. When men marry women is an issue but not on topic to why women might… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:35 PM |
| 2 | Some women are ring pop women and some women are diamond ring women and there's nothing wrong with that.This type of argument is saying "I don't simply believe you changed, in the positive way, for the right reasons, even after you took a risk and then saw the reality." My statement isn't foolproof either. There are people capable of this type of change. And they deserve the benefit of the doubt. But it's important to my argument that you not simply be able to brush away that this type of change is in the changer's benefit. It makes sense for them. They have a bias. Caveat emptor. Because it's wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 02:56 PM |
| 9 | “Pick better men” is a cop out to not hold men accountableThis is a good example of the lengths we're forced to go to around here. Now she can say "I made this thread and everyone victim blamed me and said it WAS MY FAULT that my ex raped me. Men on ppd are so twisted." Because they insist on using themselves and their literal experiences as examples, we are forced to argue against their actual choices. I'm not trying to weigh in on someone's abuse. But your point makes sense and you sorta had to do that. Is it your fault for making sense or their faul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 02:30 PM |
| 0 | I think the idea that men have it easier time getting relationships is incredibly false.Well I'm convinced! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 08:46 PM |
| 8 | I think the idea that men have it easier time getting relationships is incredibly false.It'd be nice if things worked this way. It'd be not nice if it worked the other way. Which world do you live in? The one where wild animals never eat their prey alive from the legs up? Where humans have sentience to know what hurts themselves and thus wield torture in ways no animal would. Where hurricanes destroy nice little towns of good people. Stray bullets. Muggings gone wrong. Maybe what you said is right. But are you making that argument because you can't stand the possibility that it's t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 08:43 PM |
| 4 | Men of all ages prefer 20 year olds. Knowing this, why do women still get into relationships with men?This is exactly the sort of thing that scares me, personally, about marriage. This is very much so my own perspective and the only way it's relatable is that I come to trp to breathe the fresh air that is unadulterated hot takes. I don't like lying and I have a compulsion to hold onto reality. Thus, if my wife gets fat, I'm gonna have a real hard time telling her "no you're not fat." I still love her. She's beautiful to me. I do not think beauty is all that matters. But the truth is if she's gai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Men of all ages prefer 20 year olds. Knowing this, why do women still get into relationships with men?The poster above you made my point as well. I believe that trp wanted the ability to quantify out and pin down every little aspect of a person's smv. It's ugly yes, but that's the goal. So yes, we got to a place where we analyze the data as far as height, & age, & money are concerned. And our prerogative is the ability to say this stuff to other guys. Sooooooo it got to a place where the people pushing back and asking questions put us in a corner and now we foam at the mouth while we say 20yr ol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Female friends and acquaintances have admitted to conceptualizing my appearance as a "player" (I'm not). How can I diminish this perception to my advantage?White knighting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 02:35 PM |
| -1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Anecdotes are fine if you don't mind people tearing them apart. That's my point. I definitely think you can use lived experience and anecdotes. At your own risk. Trp stuff was usually using anecdotes to point out the worst case scenario. "This happened to me. It can happen to you." Not, "you guys are being too harsh. Everything's fine." One of those reeks of honesty because it was tough to go through and tough to relay. The other may be right but it also could be wishful thinking. That's why pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:33 AM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Would you be willing to see the flaw in using yourself as the example when discussing things here? I'm not going to defend those opinions or users. But it's brings up the point that it is only fair to use hypotheticals on this forum. When you impose yourself upon the topic, now we're arguing against personal decisions YOU'VE made. Now I'm saying something you did or how you feel is ignorant or less than fulfilling. I think you can make all your points while discussing some nebulous person. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 09:15 AM |
| 1 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?You invalidate allllll your arguments though by having an explicit problem with how he reacts to others having casual sex. It implies your argument comes from a place of weakness. That you're making arguments to make yourself feel better about something you've done that were all making fun of. So you say, "woah, doesn't matter the argument. Reacting that way to what others do is wrong." When it's not. If he wouldn't hire you or tries to pass laws to prohibit you from things, then yes there's a p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 04:15 PM |
| 2 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?This is a common trope on PPD but it's literally the Op THIS time. People come into these threads, see one inane comment, and go, "omg all you (men, women) are the worst. You all always say these things. Disgusting(shaming language)." You don't know all of us. One "persons" anonymous comment does not equal any significant portion of our opinion. You have not won this thread because you were able to seem exasperated in your response. This one guy made a comment about gossip. I think it's a good p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:40 AM |
| 2 | How are men supposed to treat women as equals?First they argued 1. So what? That's just the way life is. Stop complaining. Which isn't an argument. We're here to debate. They can leave if this isn't interesting. Then they argued you were a basement dweller....ok that's just an insult. No argument other than you're poor and pathetic. What an assumption. Then they doubted you explaining your situation. You are not desperate for $ and are honest about your looks. Which isn't a very principled thing to argue with you on, but that's the waters w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/22 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Women need to give men more chances for a while before ghosting them out forever...But can you blame women for only responding to the best looking guys and the guys who coincidentally message her something that she finds interesting in that moment, with all those messages coming in from guys in her feed. First off, yes I most certainly do "blame" and hold humans responsible for existing in a culture where we are meant to judge each other on the content of our character, follow the golden rule, and not rank ourselves above other people based on $ & looks. That's definitely the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/22 03:06 PM |
| 4 | For those of you 30+, do picky people really start to settle?-two incomes is helpful. -the men we've chosen are shit. The men here don't need to take responsibility for that problem. 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/22 12:50 PM |
| 27 | Guys cannot claim they have low standards if they wont date overweight women.It's not fair that stuff like this just evaporates into the ether around here. This deserves to be reckoned with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Generational differences in hotness standardsThis is the simplest of lessons. Two wrong don't make a right. Sure jerks were always judging women on their looks. The answer is not to drag us all down to their level. It is to rise above. To be better. To grow in new and interesting ways while allowing curiosity to flourish. Not to make alllll people better at manipulation and shallowness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 02:29 PM |
| 1 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithA. It's nuts that discussing things and making lists and what not, is assumed to be creating a universally applicable theory. And that's not just about you. I KNOW this is the way this stuff gets framed. As if we might turn it into law, that's why you have to fight so hard. Because your very health and happiness is at risk when "bad" ideas are discussed. Except I'm not a lawyer and I want people more free not more controlled. I do not think women need to lose rights or be less equal. I just want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 02:11 PM |
| 2 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithIt would be relevant if the men lied or obfuscated how they dated. But I've always known player guys who are widely considered "pigs". As we discuss here, most men are not participating in this lifestyle. So then people comment on the women doing it, because they are NOT the aforementioned guys. Thus the OP. Unless you think fboys can just say they're "finding themselves". Then I'm fine with your argument. If I can sleep with a girl I didn't agree to anything with. When she asks for more later I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:58 PM |
| 0 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithWhataboutism specifically doesn't address the issue. If we said, man China has too many tanks and their clogging up some river, which is reducing water to farmers, causing a famine. And then you said, yea well America has a lot of tanks and they're parked in a parking lot so whatever. We'd be ignoring a famine so as not to be hypocrites. It makes it not a good point. Plus we have time, we can analyze both sides. The guys have a problem with how women date. They want to analyze it and discuss. Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 10:57 AM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?Ok well I concede that you nailed this particular instance. (Except he is saying that he'd be up front about it. Wouldn't she have every opportunity to leave over this difference of opinions? I don't get the impression he's talking about being disingenuous or sneaky.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 09:49 PM |
| 2 | How Much Is Too Much: N-Count Baseline Answer?They very clearly laid out that it's case by case. If someone explained that she wasn't into it and seems upset by it, they will hopefully back off. If that were the answer then "oh no, we found a maniac." But otherwise, it's just someone TRYING to flesh out their ideas here. If we push and pull at their answer we can flesh it out together. Don't go right to the worst case scenario. (Not to mention this reaction is cliche here) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/22 03:45 PM |
| 2 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?I also don't require low n. I'm not perfect and I'm not insecure about much. I'm not trying to be traditional. I just don't like people thinking they have me fooled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:58 PM |
| 4 | Women claim that men in reality do not care about how slutty a girl has been in her past, but then they also go on to defend women lying about their past to not get judged from men, don't these claims contradict each other?I talk about this a lot with my girlfriend. She has a decently high count. I brought up a topic from this sub and she got kinda defensive and said she had a high count. We discussed and she calmed down when we agreed that she had a past for a reason, and was honest about it now. That's what I ask for. Acknowledgment that it wasn't the best idea. I don't want to be with a girl with a high n who IS insecure about, would get upset if I criticize it, but won't admit it was a mistake. I chose my peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 02:40 PM |
| 1 | When women say "height/looks/size/income doesn't matter" are we men just speaking a different language?Awesome answer. Why do you think you were able to come to these conclusions? Does being pretty allow for more emotionally sound growth which let's you feel comfortable plainly stating the importance of looks? (You don't have to hide from something working in your favor.) I agree that you could overcome certain instincts with serious forethought, but I'm curious how you feel about doing that? Like sure you could get one over on evolution and be a better person. But who will congratulate you? You … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Women of PPD, would you rather looksmaxx to become a pretty woman or be a handsome man?I think you have a similar point here to what the OP is about. You've hit on another privilege I think I have as a man. In that I can live my life like it's a story. Rather than male vs female. Yea I know some guys are terrible. I am irrationally fearful of a group of 4 or more guys, whom I don't know. But to me they obviously don't REPRESENT men. I don't develop a worse impression of myself or my friends simply because my main adversaries in life will be other men. The main danger in life is a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 02:55 PM |
| 2 | If men want romantic/sexual success, they have to make a woman feel specialNow are we allowed to ask women to consider, in their minds, overcoming such a biological hurdle? We posit this is not the best way to determine a partners worth based on the humanist & industrialized world we live in. We do not think it is making women, in aggregate, pleased with life. Yes you explained something. Is it OK to want to be better? Can we discuss the problems we see inherent in this scenario? Or am I being mysoginistic? It need not be called settling in the same way that "settling"… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 06:44 PM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Ok so I hate defending that thought but it's a statement on what winners can get away with. Technically most men want hot women, so the guys who can get them are even higher. Thus they can sleep around and still want a low n woman. It's more like a statement of fact than a plan of action. I'm not one of those guys and I don't know any. On the other hand, it's a weird thing to argue against. Couldn't I just come in here and state outlandish, evil, stupid blue pill takes and then argue against tho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 11:49 PM |
| 3 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?How do you know you aren't maligning guys you like? Are there any? He simply explained that some theoretical guy will feel less than when he learns his girl had different standards with the other guys she shared herself with. And you have an argument against that? Based on what other strangers have said? You'd grasp at any straw for us to be wrong wouldn't you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:46 PM |
| 2 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?They're arguing for one way or the other. They'd stop complaining if they were included in casual sex, or got to settle with low-n women. Neither fucking happens, so they're damn sure going to complain about it on a forum for sexual strategy. It's not like I want to change the world for them but I sympathize and don't derail peoples thoughts pretending I can't understand someone because they might be hypocritical. Charles Manson can tell me murder is wrong. I'll believe him. Then we can get on w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:37 PM |
| 5 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?My opinion is that you've misunderstood the issue. Men want women to lower their standards demands wise. Like needing less stuff, seeing travel as the rare treat that it is, enjoying the small aspects of life more. (Desiring less of an Instagram life, and being happier with what my grandparents life was like. Going to beaches, seeing the country in a van.) Men want women to lower their LOOKS standard. They need to settle on looks. These guys are not making the argument that they're not fun to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 07:30 PM |
| 2 | How true do you think the assumption that females are hypergamous is?Is it impossible for this to be true? Like if evolution had for whatever confluence of reasons, made women a bit less loyal and a bit opportunistic when it came to romance, would you under any circumstance accept that as an idea? No one need to on purpose be making any claim about human females, it's just the happenstance of reality. Because yea, you want to argue that everything is equal and just treat people nice. "My mom had a total understanding of the world and if we all just share, and car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Ok so I see this differently. I'd argue he was saying that women WERE naturally attracted to normal avg guys that they would meet in their small town. Now that we all have access to people from well outside our area, many women believe they will be happier with something "more" than what their grandmother chose. It's not an ironclad hypothesis. The disagreement you and I have is that I do not think more than 1/2 of all marriages from the past were something the man was in favor of but the woman … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 08:45 PM |
| 7 | Is it common for women to have been "Alpha widowed"? Do women have trouble "falling for" new men that havent met the standards of better looking or higher status men of thier past. Do these men have to "work harder" to make up for the failed comparison?Come on now. This poster has not said anything that should let you jump to "so you're ok with enforced monogamy? You're ok with underage?! You're ok with funeral pyre burning your wife!!?" It's just hurting the overall ability for us to work together towards something in here. If a guy fights you back, fine, but this guys just expressing himself and you pulled out the big guns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say that BOTH men and women hit an "Epiphany" stage in their 30s?THATS a good argument. That it attracts people I don't want to be associated with. Who aren't thinking of trp the way I do. Obviously I still want to be able to feel and think how I feel. I can be trusted with sensitive info and not turn it into hate in real life. But you've got a point even though censorship is more of a loss in my eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Is it fair to say that BOTH men and women hit an "Epiphany" stage in their 30s?I like this reply. I don't think we need to be that at odds. I wasn't really trying for a mic drop or anything. Just thought that was a useful point of view to what you had said. Some devils advocate. You could bolster how you feel off what I said. (I have a habit of using strong language. I just like the point it conveys. I'm very open minded.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Is it fair to say that BOTH men and women hit an "Epiphany" stage in their 30s?Ok so, is anyone gonna change any legislation because of what he said? Will anyone start a parade or riot? Will a song even be written? No. So we're just here talking out our asses. Smart people can read shit and internalize it or move on. Make themselves better or smarter with info and leave out the unnecessary parts. Trp used to be really good at this. Angry guys would come in, spew some story and then everyone would give their own thoughts. Maybe the guy would calm down and get some perspecti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 09:05 PM |
| 5 | Is it fair to say that BOTH men and women hit an "Epiphany" stage in their 30s?Post hoc ergo propter hoc (Latin: 'after this, therefore because of this') is an informal fallacy that states: "Since event Y followed event X, event Y must have been caused by event X." Post hoc is a particularly tempting error because correlation sometimes appears to suggest causality. The fallacy lies in a conclusion based solely on the order of events, rather than taking into account other factors potentially responsible for the result that might rule out the connection. -wkipedia I don't kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 08:55 PM |
| 2 | The word incel has become meaningless, and is used as a knee-jerk response any time a woman doesn’t like something a man saysFair point. But the less than intelligent still complain about stuff and I am uniquely positioned to point out that they neither facilitate better lives for themselves nor hold themselves accountable when it comes to learning, growing, and avoiding low hanging fruit. Be it jokes, entertainment, or politics. You are standing up for people who glaze over when quality subjects are raised yet get all excited to "talk street" over someone cheating or a fight or something. Changing your vernacular isn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 03:55 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Well I always love over analyzing shit and you certainly don't seem to just float through interactions. That was very cool. I appreciate the thoughts and agree that being perfect is clueless and risky. So yes, some conforming is acceptable and more than that, advantageous. As long as we remember we'd like to do away with the need to play that game. But I agree with "gaming" interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?That's fair. Or it was fair when men were held to the manly standards there used to be. Because they could handle it. But now it's a culture of this. I don't think these girls began with respect for their fathers, brothers, and husband's AND THEN gave in to competing to be funny with the gang. Maybe at 1st it was that. Generations ago. But now its beyond that. In the same way that the holocaust is quite removed from me and I don't have the same perspective and proper fear of the situation, I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:41 PM |
| 8 | The word incel has become meaningless, and is used as a knee-jerk response any time a woman doesn’t like something a man saysThis is important. As is the purpose of this post, trp is often maligned as hateful, mysoginistic, or shallow. When in reality, we are SIMPLY TALKING about the lack of morality or ethics in the smv. I'm no conservative. Forget religion and kill babies whenever you want, but we're all animals and we clearly need a few rules to reign in those of us who aren't capable of delayed gratification and sacrificing for the future. Am I being mysoginistic or am I trying to make everyone happier? I tell peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 12:47 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Well it just doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. You're raising a good point it just needs to be couched in, this is for me specifically and is only helpful for men who already know how to manage themselves in the smv. For the guys who are clueless, the statistical tactic works and is kinder. I've not been on a ton of dates. I don't like calling myself a sigma cuz it's sounds like a post hoc brag, but I'm fine being single and have been asked out by all my partners, so I agree I haven't been … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 10:37 PM |
| 7 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?Ok, but as you keep on insisting on using yourself as the example, the guys out here are trying to ask as many women as possible. So yes, you need this, but it's bad advice as many guys here will never meet you. Better advice is to do some generic statistical thing that gets the largest # of women interested. That's not crazy right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?How would you respond to me saying, I'm tall, have a girlfriend most of the time, and the stuff I'm here to discuss is what those girls talk about when they think I'm not listening in the other room. So that removes your parameter that I'm some incel, and it brings up, even when my gfs friend is in a relationship, usually a good one, they will still shit on their guy in ways I don't hear dudes trash their gfs. Like I know guys can dismissive or lack emotion, but I do find men have more pride in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?I think you described "enjoy the decline". men just don't fill the requirements for a relationship. Therefore the "badass" guys, who are at least physically attractive get the treat. But the requirements are instant gratification and shallow titillation. There's nothing about the men that "betas" are that doesn't allow for long stable loving relationships. These "boring" men can make fathers and uncles and helpful community members. But if desirable women only choose cheap thrills then the situa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:31 PM |
| 6 | Women CONSTANTLY reiterate the axiom that “the standards for men are at an all time low” and that “the bar is on the floor. ” This is not only total bullshit, but an enormous slap in the face to the vast majority of males who are good people, many of whom are attractive and successful.Does shaming him FEEL like the appropriate thing to do here? I think you have a point and are defending it. If you devolve into the assumption that the only men disagreeing with you are betas or puke inducing then.. A. You're using shame to try and win which isn't fair to your argument, which has real points to be contended with. Stand strong, don't give in to easy name calling. And B. You have given the red pill a point as they believe in the apex fallacy. Which is that women are so short sight… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/22 08:54 PM |
| 2 | Any study that shows that money doesn't affect dating like women claim nowadays?This happens usually in a age gaps. I thought the whole point was this didn't happen? That being said, nobody is saying anything against that, to each his own Now some fake backing down. You let them move the goal posts on you and then they ran. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/22 11:19 AM |
| 8 | Romantic successes and failures can have profound impacts on how men thinkWomen are different because they cultivate intimate friendships and give and receive love more openly. Not to mention, Jesus, that's quite the dismissal of men. Women just appreciate intimate friendships in a way that a lumbering man can only grunt at. They give and receive love in ways we'd never understand. We'll never get past this part of the argument because nerdy anime girls AAARE all rainbows and fluffy animals all the time. Of course they find other nerdy dudes to indulge in this with. W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 06:06 PM |
| 8 | Romantic successes and failures can have profound impacts on how men thinkThis is such an entry level argument to trp. It's like I'm arguing for some criminal and you just showed me that he's been convicted. Well then I need to find a new argument because that ones over. Thus, on these forums, I'm OBVIOUSLY not arguing for abusers, lame-os, and incels. We are making arguments and then trying to prove to you that these are legit. That if it weren't for feminism, gynocetrism, and the women are wonderful effect, men would have it easier and humans in general might be bet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 02:50 PM |
| 4 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?They lift for strength not looks. You are correct but it's not their prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 05:52 PM |
| 4 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?Because we're the only ones willing to discuss this stuff out loud, women haven't been challenged on this in any proper way. Just about any crowd is behind them should you raise this topic even hypothetically. Its like my one argument for Amber Heard. She's clearly a manipulator, but why? Is it because no where along the way did feminism let society step in and knock her down a peg. Humble her in any way. I really feel like that women should not have been allowed to be who she is, if we were all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 05:48 PM |
| 4 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?The body positivity movement for women is BY women. Sure someone(idk who) tried to make dad bods work, but none of it is done by strong confident well adjusted people. It's all insecurity masquerading as a dare. (I dare you to say the truth about my weight. The movement created a consensus that can be used as a cudgel.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/22 04:09 PM |
| 5 | Do feminists date differently?https://youtu.be/Dd8qfNHeC_s I don't know if this sub or discussion ever needs to go too much further than this. The blue pill here love dodging it by saying, "women don't owe you sex!" and they don't. But I'd sympathize with a women who a couple of hunks just fawned over her friend and effortlessly ignored her. I am capable of seeing the unkindness in that. This isn't fair and it doesn't mean we fix it by "giving sex away". There's just an empathy gap. You don't have sex in public, sure because… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 02:44 PM |
| 2 | No matter the "pill" you take as a man, in the long run it is no match for the nit-picky nature of womenIt's not abusive women and im no scientist so I'm not like unwilling to change my mind or see this from a different perspective. It's just that, as the OP stated, if I spend too much time in or near a women's life, she will attempt to corral me. Make sure I don't spend too much time sitting around playing video games. Giving me things to clean and fix. Coming up with activities for me to do with the kids when I'd be fine coming up with ideas on my own. It's isn't abuse. It's nagging as the OP di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 09:16 PM |
| 2 | No matter the "pill" you take as a man, in the long run it is no match for the nit-picky nature of womenIt would until he spoke to alllllll the rest of us. It's becomes an argument of "do you not believe allllll these men." Now I get it. There's a lot of dudes here lying and many are lame-os messing up the figures. That is a legit hurdle if youre not a guy going through this. But there are enough comments from sound rational minded dudes who link up with exactly how I feel about life, that at a point, it becomes clear to us that everyone is rejecting our claims outright, immediately. And then we s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Dating market is skewed because most women don't have real friendsI'm pretty sure they're not red pill, but since this is a fantastic example, they're saying that the world is probably not skewing in favor of happiness, fairness, and cuddles so it's not likely that those willing to take advantage aren't succeeding at it. Think of anything set up in the world to do good. It will be taken advantage of by specifically the worst people. Anything good you set up to help people will more likely than not disproportionately help people taking advantage. So this was an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 08:08 PM |
| 3 | What do you consider a high N-count?I think you did a good job of explaining yourself OP. My comment will pertain to individual experiences and perspective. Like, I wouldn't determine a 25yr old w/30 means anything. I want to know if you had sex with people you respect. People you think your "forever" partner would be cool with. People you are attracted to. I do not mind a high count when done the right way. After saying that, I do have a lot of suspicion for people with high n counts, but it's because I think they dumpster dove a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/22 06:48 PM |
| 2 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldI kinda agree with you. I can concede that loss. I got upset with your words, and you were upset with his words. My argument was hypocritical. I wasn't trying to troll or bother you. You just seemed reasonable. I'm all good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 09:19 PM |
| 2 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldYou're being pretty cool with me so I don't want to insult you. But I very specifically had a problem with you having SUCH a problem with his language, and then saying pretty much the only thing I do consider to be out of bounds. (Suggesting someone is someone who must be stopped. That sort of rhetoric scares me. Those shooters belong behind bars if not dead as well as tortured and I definitely perk up when someone calls someone on my side those names.) Again, I know YOU were being hyperbolic, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 07:02 PM |
| 2 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldI totally agree with your ability to explain yourself on this matter. Buuuut conflating upsetting speech to the worst thing you can imagine is going to end poorly. Either in the sense that we lose the ability to see nuance. (Is someone objectively worse for heinously owning 30 some odd people, or if someone today says something racist are they just as bad?) Or the worst case scenario is that you give someone the excuse to go,"ok well ill never be taken seriously, people hate and denigrate me for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Women need to step up in the modern dating worldYooooo that's not appropriate at all. Comparing people to that for speaking and or disagreeing. I'm willing to let you walk that back and everything. I talk out my ass all the time. But if you wonder why things aren't getting better anywhere and we don't make any progress helping each other here, being associated with virgins, losers, and THE MOST HEINOUS murderers is why. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/22 04:46 PM |
| 3 | This “small subset” of women who claim to be struggling could hop on Reddit right now and have their pick of the litter but they won’t do it. That’s an option most men will NEVER haveI agree with your take. Because I mostly feel like it's the women using the Art of War against us. It's like "how can I ever look like the worse party if I always maintain that its rainbows and kittens." Then when it goes wrong of course it's the rational ones fault. You get "did you EVER really love me?!" And she can cry to everyone about that for a year. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 10:31 AM |
| 3 | This “small subset” of women who claim to be struggling could hop on Reddit right now and have their pick of the litter but they won’t do it. That’s an option most men will NEVER haveThe question remains, is pointing out the vocal angry obviously stupid perspective contributing to the discussion? Or are you setting up road blocks to any progress either side might make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/22 10:28 AM |
| 1 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?Keep in mind, the other person who replied to you didn't invalidate what you said. They just pointed out that that is your personal outlook. I'm an optimist and a romantic. But not in my rational mind. When I feel comfortable within my "frame" I act romantically. But never if someone will take it as me hiding from a hard truth or reality. I worry you'll see their answer as a counter to what you said and something to argue against. It was just a statement about reality. And it's true. Don't hide.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 09:37 PM |
| 9 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?I don't think it's very fair to derail his argument by saying he doesn't know how to treat another human being properly. Just because he has specifications. Come on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 07:41 PM |
| 4 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?Stop because it's wrong or because it upsets you? Because it clearly upsets you, so now you need to prove its wrong or else I just think you're trying to get your way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 07:39 PM |
| 3 | What other socially acceptable ways to pickup women?You just so happen to have "a ton" of friends who went through exactly that? You tried to speak for ALL women and that's pretty easily pushed past. Obviously some women like being objectified. The people who turn it into reality are hopefully doing it with guys who allow them to feel validated in that space. You're pushing for everything to be just nice and cuddly and supportive. The world isn't like that. People will have a hard time believing your arguments if you sanitize the life out of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 07:38 PM |
| 4 | Do guys who have success with women really not give a fuck about attractive women they date?You're talking about covert contracts? The male version is being nice to women in hopes that she will reward them with sex. Women give sex to men in hopes they will reward them with commitment. It's manipulative behavior. You are correct that maturity & honesty are the most moral ways to approach the situation. The retort may be that we are not dealing with the most moral people. And then there are those who realize it's less than ideal and choose it anyway as there are no apparent rewards for b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/22 03:44 PM |
| 7 | Do Women Give Their "Sexual Best" To Their Boyfriends or Husbands?We accept your anecdotes as specific things that have happened to you. If your marriage or relationship is fine then its accepted. But that does not extrapolate out to all experiences. Our anecdotes match other trp anecdotes. They do not invalidate your anecdotes. But they do allow us to sit down and have discussions. Make our understanding of our lives make a bit more sense. It is not a desire to insult women. We believe we have shared enough anecdotes, and at this point tik-tok provides plenty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 01:45 PM |
| 15 | Do Women Give Their "Sexual Best" To Their Boyfriends or Husbands?Part of it is a respect thing. Women not all I'm generalizing cause it's quicker to text out, want their partners to respect them. We want to be treated honorably and often think sexual expression, i.è., being a "freak" will cause you to lose the "respect". I think most of it could go away with better and more honest communication. I had a whole response about how men want respect too and women are having their cake and eating it too by having casual sex but then lying about it to exactly the pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 01:30 PM |
| 5 | Do Women Give Their "Sexual Best" To Their Boyfriends or Husbands?Girls are sexually valuable young. They fall prey to the type of guy who is willing to be sexually aggressive. The rest of men sit and wait as they bought the polite narrative. When the girls become used to dating and being around the type of guy who's aggressive and risky maybe dangerous, the other type of guy can be a bit more boring and serious. So the op was about how sex is more risky and exilerating for casual sex and then many men have seen their relationships fail because these types of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 01:09 PM |
| 1 | Do Women Give Their "Sexual Best" To Their Boyfriends or Husbands?Ha! That is very clearly not THE problem. Did you see the OP? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/22 12:51 PM |
| 1 | What standards do women have that are “too high”?You've been out of the market since some of us were born. Your perspective isn't valuable especially since you're pushing the "shut and just be polite about everything or else." mentality. Do you give young men any credence as to what they say? This isn't just for debating sexuality. We're red pilled and the things we believe upset you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 09:00 PM |
| 5 | What standards do women have that are “too high”?You're invalidating the lived experience of many of the guys here. We come here and tell you how the girl we knew whined about finding a guy for 2 months and then jumped at the 1st Chad that came around. There anecdotes but we believe them. You don't have to but then you accept how cold the world is and move on trying to better yourself. Push on and make yourself better to grasp what you want. But if it's all butterflys and rainbows and everyone will find someone for them, then we're having diff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 08:57 PM |
| 1 | When discussing dating, women do not consider the average men as people so they compare themselves to the top 10% which is why they think dating is harder for them.As well I've seen a few of better bachelor or other manosphere creators videos, where they spin their wheels over the demands women put in their dating bios. And its like they don't understand that those women are specificlly talking to another guy. Like the things they say in that bio are for a guy who hurt them. They're not even talking to prospective guys. They're not feeling entitled. They're hurt and are writing words in the bio because that's the only possible way to get back at that guy. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/22 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Kevin Samuels Mega-ThreadI wholeheartedly agree we should not spend our time focusing on the worst amongst us. It's why reality TV and broadcasting the 1 in a million murder just makes us all cynics and unable to give our fellow man the benefit of the doubt in touchy situations. However, I really buy into this idea that progressive young men benefit from realizing they can push back on what women and their allies say. So many men I know don't criticize women. Don't speak up when she's blathering on about petty selfish n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If the man makes far more money in a "marriage", the female should do the vast majority of home labor/chores/taking care of childrenI do like your point. I'm pretty good about chores. I think it deserves the caveat that as good as I might think I am, letting things slide cuz I'm lazy is real. And so yes, while I like my reasoning, this is a topic I'm not super stuck on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:24 PM |
| -1 | CMV: If the man makes far more money in a "marriage", the female should do the vast majority of home labor/chores/taking care of childrenThis doesn't even qualify as a "nice try" 😀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 05:21 PM |
| 0 | CMV: If the man makes far more money in a "marriage", the female should do the vast majority of home labor/chores/taking care of childrenWealthy older man dating a pretty younger women is all we can assume from that scenario. If the transactional nature of it makes you insecure that's on you for being uncomfortable with good looks vs bad looks. If the idea that women choose men on purpose upsets you, then you don't take female free will very seriously. If you think any man who has aged past 30 cannot possibly have anything in common with a 20 something woman, then you might be boring and old. If you think it's appropriate to mini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 03:53 PM |
| 3 | CMV: If the man makes far more money in a "marriage", the female should do the vast majority of home labor/chores/taking care of childrenI'm not trying to dunk on you, so if you reply this is a serious answer. But like I think it's a real big deal that I don't want everything as clean as my girlfriend. Like is she wants something clean, that I'll clean later or tomorrow, I don't see the issue with her spending more time now. She's prioritizing it. She wants it done now. I do not. I think there's some fairness to that. This is all on the assumption that I do it later. I don't think it's fair to derail my argument by talking about … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/22 02:50 PM |
| 1 | If there is a very high chance that a woman will divorce you in marriage is there any reason for men to get married anymore?This raises a good point about this space and male advocacy in general. Because women, generally, occupy the romantic and dreamy arenas of a relationship, they come from a position of security when the relationship ends. If you're the least bit hesitant to accept "true love" and just how perfect you two are for each other you are now the one who doubts the relationship. In good times its no big deal, but get into a fight and see if it comes up. The blue pillers here are the same way. We try and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 06:07 PM |
| 26 | Study: Sexually Unsuccessful Men Retaliate By Endorsing Anti-Egalitarian Attitudes and Becoming Fiscally ConservativeThis is this sub in a nutshell. and thus if someone isn't "nice" to you then you not only don't care about them but wish them ill or won't treat them right. The implication that people (women) are "not treating you right" by not fucking you? The question that finally ends this debate is, "really? You really think that's what that person was trying to express? You can't be any more charitable in your interpretation? Do you THINK he wrote out a comment, trying to win an argument, with that shitty … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 09:06 PM |
| 7 | Why hate mgtow?Knowledge of just how depressing reality is will always be superior to the bliss of ignorance. Especially if one's will is purposefully pushing one forward. That's the point of the trade-off. You're arguing that they overcome the desire entirely? You might have a winning argument there. But unless someone wishes to be some ideal human, if they're comfortable with their desires, they're acting truthfully again. So they win. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/22 12:15 AM |
| 1 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.Ok ya got me. Moving on, have anything to add? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | 90 percent of open relationships are destined to fail.I'm not totally disagreeing. I do believe they're destined to fail and that ego can be a major part. But, and this applies to soooooo much of what we see here in ppd, do you see this happening amongst "desirable" people? Like my gf was watching some Netflix show on "love" and "new ways to love" and it took 3 to 4 speakers to cycle through every topic before I ran across 1 that I could be certain ANYONE had ever lusted after them and put in an athletes performance in the bedroom. So much of what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Thoughts on Kevin SamuelsI do not think that's a flex. But that is the point. Who he was as a person 'might' not effect what he says. And that's for all of us to decide. You have interesting insight into his effect on the black community and women. I don't know about that. But who he was doesn't automatically ruin what he said. Stick to what he said IF you care about the integrity of your arguments. That's all I care about here. Also I think the world needs to allow adults to be mean with their words. I don't want my mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Thoughts on Kevin SamuelsNot a fan of his. Seen maybe 2 clips. Being a hypocrite doesn't make anyone incorrect. A murderer can still tell you murder is wrong. People liked hearing his opinions/advice. That's evidenced by the views. It wasn't illegal and so the outrage is unnecessary. People being this upset about a guy saying mean things is worth criticizing. People being petty and or rude about his death are immature and foolish. You are free to disagree with someone and free to hate. I don't really have a dog in this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 04:04 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Thoughts on Kevin SamuelsWhy do you think it’s okay for a man with a failed marriage, deadbeat father, broke before youtube, and owned no property at 57 to give advice out? What ARE the qualifications for giving out advice in your authoritarian world? It's not illegal to give out advice. Its not a crime to be mean or rude. Nothing wrong was going on here UNLESS you're in kindergarten and learning about getting along. He's an adult who's allowed to run a business and speak to others. The fact he was successful is quite t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 03:09 PM |
| 2 | How do you filter f$$k boys, vet guys better for a LTR? Do you actively try to keep a relatively low body count? how?If you sleep with someone before finding out alllll the things you want to know about them, then you've chosen immediate gratification and not vetting. Or a low body count. If I speed can I truly say I've chosen safety? I'll get where I'm going slower. That's why it's a trade off. Other people may look happier taking the risk, and it may even work out for them. But if you want to tell people safety is a principle you base your life around, then you LIVE your life a certain way. Now a second aspe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/22 01:34 PM |
| 1 | What speaks to you about the situation of modern society when it comes to Kevin Samuels Death?This is all fine but there's definitely simps in there too. So really it's just ignorance. People who are very ignorant(or think they are) hiding from truths because they've been taught that their indignation will get them out of arguments with smarter people. You notice people who you thought were cool will say awful shit when super pissed. Saying racial or homophobic shit. It's the same here. They realize they're in too deep and their crutch is reinforced by npcs so it's addicting. Of course t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/22 08:16 PM |
| 1 | Men are just expected to accept that they not only cannot get someone as attractive as them, but that they will have to WORK for someone less attractive. If they question any of this they are called entitled or told they are overrating their own appearance despite confirmation from most.They may have you on the entitlement thing. The argument works for us if we say we're not trying to get dates ourselves. Rather I view this behavior as morally reprehensible and would like my fellow countrymen(women) to be more respectable and honest. There's no way to justify being that shallow. We can find fault in that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/22 06:52 PM |
| 8 | Has anyone else observed that women tend to characterize men they find cute or wholesome as being... sexless?He didn't touch on enough specifics but they are out there. Add some if you remember any. 1.driving the speed limit. 2. Sneaking into her bedroom. 3. Sexual stuff while people are around. It's always bothered me that I can tell my gfs do not like me driving the speed limit. Stopping for yellow lights, not passing people who are going slow. I've felt the reaction this gives them. My high-school gf hinted that she wanted me to do sneak into her bedroom. Her strict religious parents and I got along… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 08:33 PM |
| 1 | Women believe they understand men more than they really do, and that is a problemYea of allllll the injustices in the world I'm really prepared to sit here and let you hold my gender accountable for what KINGS did! And I'll admit that you're not describing a fantasy. As if they'd do anything other than spit on me and have me tortured for making eye contact. Trust me, the argument that "the best" men in history haven't lived up to your standards isn't an argument as to how I'm going to live my life in any measure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 08:17 PM |
| 0 | Women believe they understand men more than they really do, and that is a problemOk, so, this is gynocentrism. The idea that women have preferences for how the world and daily life aught to be run and that men's preferences or personal concerns are wrong. I do not care about birthdays. I think pretending that one day a year is your day is a selfish endeavor with consumerist overtones and one I am better off, morally, for abstaining from. The gynocentrism plays in because I am correct. It is morally correct to treat your loved ones with kindness, respect, and honor all the da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 02:53 PM |
| 2 | How sucessful and "normal" are relationships when the woman has higher sex drive than the man?Yea sure mom | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/22 01:58 PM |
| 4 | How often do you get hit on?I speak for all men and we would be willing to acknowledge the burden that this scenario is, if you're willing to discuss these men as "the dregs" whenever you'd otherwise use them to tar all men with their behavior. (You're fine, it's just important to me that those guys specifically pay for such behavior rather than have it extrapolated onto us nerds who don't even look at women.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/22 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Women don’t want men to even the playing field by actively cultivating back up options since it ruins their leverageI can admit I use strong wording. I have the same problem in real life. I don't mean to be so serious I just get lost in trying to make my point. I can apologize and also acknowledge that yes, I was using you to generalize. You're not my enemy. I like what you say about what trp should be and I agree. I just have a problem with the fact we were censored. I agree "get on with your life and be kickass" is mostly what matters. But because we got censored, I do rage against the idea that we're even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 08:25 PM |
| 4 | Women don’t want men to even the playing field by actively cultivating back up options since it ruins their leverageI agree with OP here. We do want to ruminate on this stuff and discuss it amongst ourselves. You have a problem with us discussing it and when that happens constantly, you start to realize the pattern. You're saying, "ehh I noticed all the egregious red pill stuff and I could have cried about it but oh well. I didn't even try so I'm not upset." It becomes creepy that men CANNOT discuss this stuff. Are women acting these ways? Is stuff easier for them? Do they act entitled and dysfunctional all a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/22 03:55 PM |
| 4 | Most cheaters dont cheat due to a lack of sex. That’s a myth and it doesnt justify cheating.Im getting so sick and tired of guys here justifying cheating with the excuse Or she's got some weird obsession with herding us. Pretending this cohort is hers to change or abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/22 10:08 PM |
| 5 | Multiple American Surveys show common factors leading to divorce: Lack Of Commitment, Adultery, and Constant ArguingSee I think this IS whats wrong. Every girl I've dated, has thought we were some perfect match made in heaven...until we weren't. I think absolute surety that the relationship is true love, the best thing you’ve ever experienced, and you should have zero doubts about marrying them. Is too much of an expectation. I think this is what we were sold. That marriage is fun, entertaining, magical, and fulfilling. Our grandparents would tell you it was a job. Hard work. Most people in the past were like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 08:43 PM |
| 4 | Being kind of toxic and manipulative is the only way average men can get fair trades.is just one example of many, me and others can provide from our lives. if you ask her she will deny everything. A bit sideways from your argument but I feel it's relevant. When is it finally appropriate to broach how women treat men and the statistics on those interactions. Like has her guy ever had any emotional or physical outburst with anyone else? Does he have arguments and get into fights with his close male friends he's known for years? Or even women whom he's close with but aren't his "si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | "pair bonding" is a fake fantasybconcept created by low tier menI'll give you the upvote for making a coherent point, but A. I think this is moving the goal posts on this topic. And B. It's pretty late in the game to be concerned about morals. Or if you realize you're speaking to an amoral individual, you should be educated enough to understand what "enjoy the decline" means and cut your losses. I was just hanging out with some younger girls and they were picking on a guy in their social circle. He hasn't asked them out according to the story. Hasn't hit on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 01:51 PM |
| 2 | "pair bonding" is a fake fantasybconcept created by low tier menOk, let's all hope you're right. But if you're not and reality is a bit harsher than you and I hope, we may need to sit down and prepare ourselves for several disquieting truths we can't escape. Are you singling out hookups as specificlly a scenario where you sleep with a guy you didn't know? Like crushing on a guy you don't speak to but are in social circles with won't become a hookup even if it's never a relationship? Because why would a hookup not be able to be daydreamed and obsessed over? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/22 10:54 AM |
| 8 | Women, how often have you run into micro vs bigger dicks?I'm not complaining, I'm trying to ask someone who isn't me to help me have new thoughts. Why are you even replying to me? Go try and upset someone else if you won't try to be a decent conversationalist. It's not like I even care about this subject. I'm just trying to talk to people who are interested in what I'm interested in. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/22 04:20 PM |
| 9 | Women, how often have you run into micro vs bigger dicks?A bit off topic, but the fact that this sort of obstructing info is everywhere in the dating world is no small issue for us here. How many of the opinions we have or are fighting against are because every ex has told me her exes were abusive and emotionally bad. The well has been poisoned for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/22 04:18 PM |
| 6 | Women, how often have you run into micro vs bigger dicks?No I'm nothing too special but I'm tall, so i buy into what a lot of the women here are saying. Eg: women usually can't tell, and since I'm already taller they give me the benefit of the doubt that it's big and move on. I'd be very tempted to capitulate completely on this topic but I rage against niceties wherever I find them. So "we don't really mind if your sex organ is above average because we're such great people who don't acknowledge that there's anything objective about this." That just fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/22 04:14 PM |
| 4 | Women, how often have you run into micro vs bigger dicks?What's the correlation between men caring and women searching? Like yea we care too much, but isn't it because we're worried that you've done enough searching to have an opinion. Like yea I might not like lobster more than fried shrimp, but if I got used to that from my last partner, it's become something that I can be concerned you have a preference for. That's not crazy. But I will concede that it's petty. I would just argue the situation begets the pettiness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | What makes men gravitate towards Redpill? What got you interested (if you are interested) in redpill?Next piece of info: if you can, I'd like a consensus on how many of these athletes are the one to end the relationship? I'm tall and handsome but no athlete. My girlfriends have always asked me out first(I assume for height) and then I have to break up with them. They don't vet me for who I am and we'll get into fights for my red pill ideas. Point being, I don't think they like me for me. They don't like who I am once they find out but they won't leave. It doesn't make me feel like they like me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 04:12 PM |
| 1 | How big of a deal is it, dating someone who has different political beliefs than you do? Are relationships better when both people are on the same page, politically? Or do political differences make for more interesting interactions? Just curious what people think.Well that's to be expected. We are on different sides of this stuff. I only added it in to show you someone from the other perspective agrees even though they feel this way. I just wanted to chime in for perspective. I agree a lot of these weird trad guys want a liberal girl and that seems odd to me. I'm a progressive jerk who doesn't like coddling people. So my last 2 exes I broke up with because they were Trump crazy. I'm not into Trump, but it's what scares me away from liberal college educat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 02:59 PM |
| 4 | How big of a deal is it, dating someone who has different political beliefs than you do? Are relationships better when both people are on the same page, politically? Or do political differences make for more interesting interactions? Just curious what people think.I'll just add my two cents here, as I don't think my experience is very common. But I don't want a religious girl. I don't want a girl who disagrees with feminism and being PC because she's ignorant and afraid. I disagree with that stuff because I'm disagreeable. I meet girls occasionally who are like "tee hee why did we give up being wives and mothers to get all sweaty?" That's not what I want. I want a warrior who isn't a whiner like all the other sjws. I want a women who doesn't need all the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/22 12:55 AM |
| 1 | If a single guy is attractive and sociable, warm approaches are all he needs to get women.Not to mention because we're supposed to be adults. Or at least capable. Why would someone need to explain every bit of nuance?! You can't make that leap yourself and just try and understand his point anyway? How is it better to have assumed the worst about what he said and been wrong than to have assumed decency and just gotten on with the thought, and then maybe be wrong. At least then you're not cynical. But its not that. It's that this place shouldn't exist. Men speaking about red pill stuff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/22 06:29 PM |
| 1 | When her facial expressions reveal that she settled for you..."One day some people came to the master and asked ‘How can you be happy in a world of such impermanence? The master held up a glass and said ’Someone gave me this glass, and I really like this glass. It holds my water admirably and it glistens in the sunlight. I touch it and it rings! One day the wind may blow it off the shelf, or my elbow may knock it from the table. And I say, ‘Of course.’ When I understand that the glass is already broken, every moment with it is precious." "What causes anger… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 02/04/22 07:37 PM |
| 2 | should society support or shame dumping good partner for a better one?I think it was very relevant. Idk how to answer your question necessarily. It's more about the feeling you leave me with. If I can feel comfortable with your justifications then it's probably "mature", but I want to add that I didn't really think that thought out. I just don't want to feel played in a relationship. There's a lot of faith I put into "loving" someone and I'd like to know you tried your damndest to respect that faith before you decided you needed something else. Which is basically … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 07:01 PM |
| 1 | should society support or shame dumping good partner for a better one?It's a valid question, my immediate caveat however is, "how do I know you don't chase instant gratification and cheap pleasure? Do I know you're truly unhappy in a mature way or are you acting like a child and not counting your blessings?" Choosing something on purpose for reasons that make sense internally is almost all I ever ask for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 05:09 PM |
| 4 | The response to men who complain about the dating world of “maybe you should improve yourself or find out what you’re doing wrong” is simply disingenuous and yet another deflectionYour post is really good in that you gave good advice, that I agree with, and it was the productive thing to do with the OP. However, I would argue that the premise was, "GIVING advice isnt helping because we want you all to acknowledge the underlying issue of unfairness." We might not want it to change, maybe we're cool with things the way they are, but it's the fact that everyone is committed to this "everyone's great, you'll definitely get yours, don't worry about improving yourself." mantra … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/22 05:06 PM |
| 2 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanI was specificlly mentioning the OP in that quote as I figured it was relevant to my outlook when I replied to you. Then farther down I mentioned the 2 quotes of yours that I conflated with the OP to come to my conclusion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanPeople who want to dismiss trp because "everyone has it just as bad" or paraphrase the OP however you want. Obviously the OP is a worthy discussion topic, my hypotheses is that were that argument to gain traction it would be used to say, "see let's shut all this down. It's not necessary." It's what my mom would say. So I'm against it. In a nutshell it’s a bunch of people who loathe the opposite sex yet don’t understand why they cant get dates and partners. Maybe it’s time we call out the elephan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 01:12 AM |
| 4 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanI can accept I came at you a little hard and thus the responses, but my argument was You said maybe its time to call out these ideas cuz they're wrong. I said, yea maybe you're right but maybe you're wrong. That was the main crux of my thought. I feel like the bloopers feel like you're gonna get to a point where we shut up. We find out we're wrong. They want us censored and sorry. My contention is, yea that might happen, but you can't START from that position. I don't think we've ever been given… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/22 12:25 AM |
| 13 | Both men and women just want to be treated like they are humanLook, MAYBE it is that. I like science, rationality, & skepticism too, so yes you MIGHT be correct. But if you A. Refuse to even entertain our arguments then I don't care about your input. How could you possibly be giving this place its due? Where's the integrity in this argument? Or B. Are upset that trp isn't perfect, that this stuff doesn't include everyone, or that we generalize, then you are simply not on the right path. We are discussing things that interest us. Not all of us are upset or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 09:00 PM |
| 3 | Q4MEN (redpill) : Supposing hypergamy is entirely real and applicable to all women, why are you angry about it?First of all RP is not angry about Hypergamy, they view it as a fact of how the world works. I don't believe we have full blown red pill rage guys in here like we used to get on trp forum. So what I always assume is that the conversation here has devolved so much, that even the rational and well educated trper gets into arguments. So it looks like we get angry about hypergamy. Like we have a problem with it or that we would like a change. But in reality there was a time where we were just pointi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/22 07:21 PM |
| 23 | Maybe it's a modern thing, but I always thought of relationships and sex as a product of attraction. Not something you do for the sake of it.I don't so much think these men are arguing for women to sleep with them as they are arguing for the ability to criticize women's preference. Like even if they get everyone to agree that women's preference is focused on shitty stuff, the point is simply to get that admission. Even here in this OP, we bring to light the issues we see dating or just knowing women, and you guys twist it so that our opinion is stupid and blind. No one's wants you to settle with anything less than what makes you happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/22 12:01 PM |
| 7 | How do men rationalize the belief that they are superior to women in every way, while also believing that women are inherently more valuable then menAnd men are ok with this thought process? It's so important to the general idea of this sub that this idea be fleshed out. Fake it til you make it is something that gets pushed in trp. Holding frame and maintaing idgaf. So mind over matter and the placebo effect are real and useful to us. Jordan Peterson, even, explained that holding yourself upright, shoulders back & stomach exposed, as if to say, "challengers welcome" gives your body the winner hormones. You can literally give yourself the pos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/22 10:57 PM |
| 6 | There’s no reason why a woman shouldn’t be promiscuous nowadays if they want toOk, but I'd still disagree. I'm saying explain the misrepresentation because, I disagree, and want to debate it. Just so we can stop being coy, my argument is that like with every other form of input or sugary candy, excess leads to dependency and possibly addiction. Our brains wire pathways and repeating the actions that enable the pathways strengthens them. So the thrill of a new partner, possibly coupled with a rush from going out and enjoying the possibility of "meeting someone!(how romantic… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/22 09:48 AM |
| 14 | There’s no reason why a woman shouldn’t be promiscuous nowadays if they want toWhat is the misrepresentation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/22 10:41 PM |
| 0 | Women positively reinforce the “bad boys” but love complaining about themI've never really sympathized with those guys. I think it goes against your argument that I did have friends like that and they certainly wouldn't have listened to me telling them to stop. It would have been on the girls to stop them. What advice were my friends supposed to be getting to be able to empathize with women? I think these guys figure, the girl showed interest, I pursued, she slept with me, and we're ALL happy. They don't care about the step where the girl now hopes for more. If every… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/22 03:25 PM |
| 1 | Women positively reinforce the “bad boys” but love complaining about themAs if this isn't the exact same rationalization girls use against their parents when giving the same rational advice. "Be a decent person and keep it in your pants. Guys only want one thing." "How patriarchal and oppressive!" Yea youve found a dodge, but the advice is simply for your benefit. You could cash in on instant gratification and cheap thrills but if you practice delayed gratification and sacrificing the now for the future, you most likely end up in a really good place. Arguing that thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/22 10:41 AM |
| 3 | Women positively reinforce the “bad boys” but love complaining about themIf he is, would you accept our premise. Because my argument is that you wouldn't, therefore your concessions aren't truly the point here. I agree that would be really bitter if it turned out to be the case, but I'd accept it either way. We wish to discuss reality EVEN if it's ugly at it's core. We might be wrong, and kudos to whoever points that out, but many seem to have a problem with us getting to the truth and wouldn't accept it when we showed them. Choosing instead to remove our ability to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/22 10:29 AM |
| 5 | What is the difference between toxic masculinity and high value men?Yea but we're on this forum because one side bitches about the situation and the other denies it even exists. So yea if you want to leave here and never return then yea "the problem is solved by politeness and becoming an npc." But we're gonna be here whining about it. Trying to dig a little deeper regardless of if there's a solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Girls wouldn't sleep around/have hoe phases/rack up high body counts if they knew guys had no standardsSo thats it I guess. I have to leave ppd. Because I'm no longer arguing with adults. I don't want to insult children or blow their minds with info that they shouldn't be exposed to. I'm not trying to punch down. So this place isn't for me anymore. Enjoy your hug box. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 10:42 AM |
| 0 | Girls wouldn't sleep around/have hoe phases/rack up high body counts if they knew guys had no standardsNo one's making me wait. I'm not orbiting anyone. There isn't any problem with ME that makes me interested in this SUBJECT of information. I'm saying I find this stuff interesting. And so I can think about it divorced from whether or not my mother would like me to be talking about this. MAYBE I am wrong. I can go there. But I think I've found interesting new info. So I'm gonna think about it. I cannot read what you've said as anything other than concern trolling. You don't want what I've said to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/22 10:40 AM |
| 4 | Girls wouldn't sleep around/have hoe phases/rack up high body counts if they knew guys had no standardsWell obviously we go a little deeper here at trp. Yes I concede your point to anyone who wants to sleep around and remain cool with it. We red pilled men, end up dating these women. So regardless of your conclusions or how at peace YOU are with the subject, we would like to discuss what we think we end up with, with these women. So we discuss if sleeping around makes them more pleasant afterwards. When they do decide to no longer sleep with the best guys are they ok with who they pick? We discus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/22 11:50 PM |
| 1 | Would you say the same things towards romantically unsuccessful men towards economically unsuccessful people?I do think your 1st argument came close to justifying enforced monogamy though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoFine, I like >I brought up my point to show there’s multiple angles to this. I might disagree that we need to discuss how it goes away, but I agree that the OP isn't describing how to end it. So if you have ideas on how to do that, that's pretty interesting. they’d say it was childish to worry about my virginity and just get it over with already because sex isn’t that big of a deal. I knew guys and had friends like this. Nothing depressed me more than how successful a strategy it was. We can go … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoFrom the first to the last. So many guys that tried to force themselves on me. Pestering somebody for sex is just a tad better than trying to use physical force. It's the same "not taking no for an answer" mentality. This was the person I was replying to and what I meant. It just sounds like over-the-line behavior that we shouldn't need to discuss around here. If I bring up a question about cold approaching women, can we not all understand that bringing assault or sexual assault into the convo i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 09:59 PM |
| 2 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoOoooh so your issue is that it doesn't say "excluding men who are forceful and rapey" every time he says "men". That's the type of discussions you want to have? We're here because he didn't treat this anonymous reddit forum like a term paper or something the Supreme Court would see? You're exclusion doesn't make this more interesting. "Oh well some men are fuckboys and rapists, so that's it wrap it up boys. No more discussing philosophy because some other guys ruined it for us." OP is speaking a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 02:27 PM |
| 0 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoI thought you were bringing up like coercion and sexual assault? That stuff is traumatic. Thus it's disrespectful to it to be brought up in a convo about women dating betas and making them wait for sex while they get dressed up and go on cute little dates. This OP isn't about guys who "seal the deal". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoYea correct, "some men". Specificlly, not the ones we're talking about in the OP. The ones in the OP want to date women. So yes the implication from your reply is, "and thus we don't even need to talk about those men. Avoid them at all costs." If you're bringing up the kind of guy who was coercing a virgin to sleep with him...then I think you may be trying to ignore or misinterpret the topic. Some men will have a problem with it no matter what Are you here to dunk on us or learn something. Becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 02:03 PM |
| 6 | Men have no problem waiting for sex as long as other men had to alsoAnd definitely not what we're talking about here. This is an OP about the men women don't make wait and the ones they do. Discussing the men who use dominance to force themselves on women is hardly relevant and actually quite upsetting considering it is a valid topic and a traumatic area of life for many. It is not fair to the topic at hand to try and side step the argument by forcing our minds to focus on something so upsetting and unnecessary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 01:54 PM |
| 3 | People cling on to blue pill thinking because the blue pill is a status symbolBut that is the idea so keep pushing it out there. It is not an issue of superficiality or trying to get the best for yourself. This insight has to do with happiness and whether or not you're walking into a trap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/22 12:21 AM |
| 1 | Serious question. What TRULY is the point of marriage for men?Got me there. I like this point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 09:47 PM |
| 0 | Serious question. What TRULY is the point of marriage for men?Ok fair but then that's exactly why it's not a good answer to the question. The father is a man and he will sacrifice his ego for his kids. But that's a shitty way to say, "so this is good for YOU." This argument is basically, well you're an emotional hostage to your children's needs so keeping them happy being a priority is an all good for you. No matter what. You're definitely not a secondary human in any way. People should be careful with the arguments they posit in this thread. It will shine… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/22 08:21 PM |
| 2 | "Visceral" attraction is not necessary for a good LTRTrp men are a horrible demographic. There are those who properly understand the tenants from a calm and rational viewpoint and those who were hurt and angry and should not have been exposed to the info. Yea the losers are gonna ruin relationships. But if the guy is competent, he should really never bring up to the girl what he's doing, and it should only result in everyone being happier. Women think trp is rude and mean and misogynistic. When in reality trp exposed that women are rude and mean a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Don’t worry about the old friends, worry about the new people in their lifeYou are correct. But just as a question to you. I do think you could pull a decent argument out of what you presented. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't literally a blue pill. And that makes sense about what prompted it. Did you get any contrarian views that felt nuanced. I saw a lot of " yea everything's fine, trpers are just paranoid." Which isn't very thought provoking imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 08:47 PM |
| 1 | Don’t worry about the old friends, worry about the new people in their lifeAll you said was, "we were rightly apprehensive at first but then I realized if they haven't already slept together why would it ever happen?" I don't think this is much other than cope. You don't want this to happen and so you've told yourself a happy little story that helps you sleep at night. Let's hope it keeps working. Did someone doubt that you guys wouldn't sleep with your friends? Where did this question even come from? Not to mention, if I were to sit here and try and convince you that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/22 01:47 PM |
| 6 | The line between being taken advantage of and taking responsibility is really blurry with women.I completely disagree. The men here do not think women deserve to be cheated on and that any reasonable vetting is counter productive. Don't even interact with someone who's that rigid. Don't waste your time. Can you appreciate that the OP is about women who should probably be aware that the guy they like is an f-boy, but pretending they didn't know until afterwards, and THEN contributing to the toxic female culture which facilitates calling guys "abusive" and evil when they really were just sel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 09:12 PM |
| 1 | What is the wall?Ok so, we might be pretty close on thought. However, and this is what is now more interesting to me, what drew me to trp was that I knew people were being honest with themselves. Yes there were maniacs and crazies, but when I read a take that made sense, I knew that person was capable of sitting amongst the crazies and not losing their shit rather than contributing positively. The normies can handle it. So yea trp isn't perfect and I took from it only what I wanted. In that sense I really like w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 08:25 PM |
| 1 | What is the wall?Ok, well I appreciate your comment. Also, I reserve the right to continue making my generalizations, as they help me live my life. I will concede a little bit on the exceptions to the rule. I can accept that bit of wiggle room. However, knowing that, I still feel secure that my rule will work for me in optimizing life. And that's all trp is for us. Ways to improve and properly get what you want. In that sense, don't you see why these rules are helpful. A lot of them are used for guys who simply … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | What is the wall?This topic describes very natural processes. Of all the things trp discusses, the fact that humans age and die is the least controversial one. You seem very persistent that this isn't a bad thing to be picked on, and you've said several times that it can be reversed for a little bit. It just seems like you WANT this to be the case. "People don't age at 30, I have friends, they're still fine." That's not enough of an argument. And that it's mean isn't one either. Maybe the wall is an exaggeration… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | What is the wall?Ok, I agree with you sentiment. James bond is a weird example and Hugh Hefner is a "men support porn so he sold them an image" example. But that's all that is. One guy on here made a stupid point. It doesn't invalidate trp. The wall still makes sense to any guy who's seen a 30 yr old and a 23 yr old. We need to be better about this. I shouldn't invalidate your side for one bad argument. Relax on your dunk and understand that we were talking about this stuff without you here. You coming over and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/22 03:35 PM |
| 4 | This article from a Widow is eye opening and I think confidently shuts down many women's objections to the way men view sex.That's just not fair. We're not discussing guys who do shitty things. We're talking about guys women want to sleep with. Nothing in the OP was about unhealthy sex. Men know what they want. Women know what men want. In the same way that "nice guys" sit around and hope a girl will give sex from niceness. Women who are into a guy will give sex in hope of commitment. Guys will take the free sex, when the girl is too shy to ask up front for a relationship. He's being deceptive but so is she. They bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 07:27 PM |
| 1 | This article from a Widow is eye opening and I think confidently shuts down many women's objections to the way men view sex.That's got to do with successful guys sharing notes with the unsuccessful. With internet forums guys compared notes and even the guys who hit the gym and improved came back with stories about how women treated them differently. Once the dweebs knew that "oh there's someone out there for you too" was "want me to try and choke on it?" for a different set of guys it became kinda obvious. So the unsuccessful never needed to grow or learn. It's the connection between the two groups. And all the divor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 07:22 PM |
| 4 | This article from a Widow is eye opening and I think confidently shuts down many women's objections to the way men view sex.They clearly meant inter gender loneliness. If you can't go along with the argument THAT far then come on, what are you even doing here. I think it's fair that men deal with being lonely. We don't match up 1-1. But the OP is about how not having her husband effected this woman, and the advice was overwhelmingly, "don't overthink sex, just get it if you want it. Don't feel ashamed." OP wanted to be sly and see if people picked up on the double standard, as men aren't encouraged to "get it if they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/22 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Ironically, access to a woman’s sexuality “costs” more the worse it becomesBecause of your one example? We're describing people who after having a lot of frivolous fun that any number of prudes warned them against, have chosen to describe their current position, later in the game after aging, to be more advantageous. That is the motive in question. People who HAVE aged and now want something they could have secured easier when younger are claiming they make better choices now, and are therefor better themselves. That is so in line with them benefiting that it requires … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Ironically, access to a woman’s sexuality “costs” more the worse it becomesMaybe it's because they have higher standards as they get older and learn what they like? I feel like this is a pretty important aspect of this debate. Do any of us trp buy the idea that older women have higher standards? For people who like to focus on the objective, is there any way to view the kind of guys women end up with in their 30s as "better". That thread about the girl dating a college basketball player when young but a guy capable of being shamed by that realization when older. Maybe … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 12:48 PM |
| 1 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itI'm an agnostic in that I don't think anything can be totally known. We learn stuff, and it works as much as it does, but I think aspects of reality are distortions, or not as they seem(we don't understand yet), or an outright lie. So in the same way one can say I believe in God but I don't know he's there, I can believe in love, but I don't know it's real. So when I enter a relationship I set myself up to believe in love. I'm rational enough to avoid this belief in my single life, I take it as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 08:18 PM |
| 3 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itHow important do you think that example is? As a trper I feel a little different than most. I get "it's just my turn" and awalt and all that. But I feel like the ace here is what you've described. I could enter a relationship with a girl specifically to be with a slut. I'd just want honesty and trust. So we can toss out the guys other arguments about how it makes them feel and insecurity. Those are superficial. But lying about it is detrimental to your own world view. Like I'm not sure I even ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:31 PM |
| 2 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itIs that a fair distinction? Most guys not being concerned? We're coming up on trp stuff getting pretty mainstream. Your contention is that many men are no longer blue pilled or are so emotionally stable that previous sexual encounters don't matter to him in a relationship, and we will not see a steep rise in guys expressing dissatisfaction at dating women with long histories? As the info becomes accessible for normies and guys who think women can do no wrong. It's a fair hypothesis, but I'm some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 05:22 PM |
| 7 | If women actually believed "only insecure" men care about their sexual history, then women wouldn't lie about itWith this is mind no good can come from talking back how many cocks you have taken with your current partner. You came real close with all your "this is just reality" talk. But then there's this sentence. It should read "With this in mind no good can come from being with many cocks if you want to even pretend one day that your committed guy is special." If talking about it causes trouble then the argument is don't do it if you want a certain outcome. If you don't want that outcome then you're fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/22 11:45 AM |
| 3 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsI'll concede that this is all ancillary to my type of argument. I agree with you that this guy isn't hv in my thinking. I do think women choose hvm and it doesn't matter their N count. But I agree this isn't it. I think there are upper and upper middle class dudes who slay without any evil tactics. Like they might be evil, but I don't think they show it. Point being, I believe women sleep with guys they shouldn't, and know they shouldn't and there isn't anything evil those men are doing. Like we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsI definitely assumed you were talking about a harder addiction than weed. That gives the guy some points if that's your argument. Those girls don't mind hooking up with him for a cheap non addictive drug. It's at least not low value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:54 PM |
| 2 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsThat's obviously true some of the time, but is it what we're trying to discuss here? Should we stop a HARMLESS discussion because you've found a terrifying "what if"? Do you think guys can't be players without being monsters at the same time? Because otherwise why was that comment necessary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:51 PM |
| -2 | With access to easy sex, it is up to women to control their n countsIt does not matter what trp doesn't understand if you refuse to take 5 seconds and admit you understand what OP said and that it doesn't require you to try and "get him" like an uno game. There is a further discussion here that doesn't involve throwing stones in glass houses. Until it comes to bite them, A fantastic hill to die on is the one where I argue for ideas that do not further my own possessions or ego. A fruitless endeavor when anonymous, but some deaths bring their own honor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 03:47 PM |
| 2 | Do you have any realistic ideas on how to solve the rising male loneliness problem?Plus it remains to be seen if we could make it so women don't have contempt for these men, if they weren't pursuers. So maybe there would be healthy interpersonal relationships that could exist if not all people believed love needed to be found and secured. We all have experienced a married man letting out the "women can't live with em, can't live without em" exasperation. Maybe if they weren't lying to themselves about what they'd won, and appreciated it more as something they utilitarianly cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/22 12:45 AM |
| 2 | Why is it fair that the average man meets their wife after their wife has left her prime in looks so to speak?I gotcha dude. I don't think you were gonna get an answer on this one. It was about fairness and just about no one got past "oh you fetishize nubile young women, what a creep!" It was the same old issue. Men want modern women to at least pretend that "the one" is the one. But women want to have their cake & eat it too. We rp men cannot stop the simps and blue pillers from accepting women as is. And so we enjoy the decline. Which they don't like us talking about either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/22 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Why are "pick mes" so reviled?You might also just be rubbing up against an age old thing. Like older people feeling invalidated by younger people and thinking their crazy. I'm a dude and I always doubted these tomboy girls. Yea I'd like to be the only guy around a bunch of girls too. The motive is too obvious to be totally trusting about it. Sure some are real and true, but it's just something worth questioning. Some will be doing it opportunisticly, so you will always find individuals complaining about those instances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/22 12:41 PM |
| 2 | TRP and FDS are dishonest about how vulnerable they are, and about how pain and personal experience are more important to their ideology than logic or reason.Alright fair there are a lot of painful statements and it's cool you're reaching across the aisle having been on one side. I just sorta liked that comment above yours and it seemed like you came back with "well maybe the red pills ok but I see a lot of whining and people have scared me about incels." I didn't go there because girls hurt me. I went there because the things I say upset people. And this was a place for people like that. I don't want it taken away because you don't like what they sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 03:59 PM |
| 2 | TRP and FDS are dishonest about how vulnerable they are, and about how pain and personal experience are more important to their ideology than logic or reason.That might be a shifting of the goal posts. You said, trp is dishonest about what it wants. He countered with valid claims of how he interprets and lives trp. That's at least 1 guy who likes trp and got something better out of it than what you suggested. And then you said, "well there's still a lot of angry bad guys who like your ideology and they're the loudest so..." It doesn't feel fair to have to account for all the losers who might anonymously glom onto the ideas. Not to mention we can neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 03:36 PM |
| 4 | TRP and FDS are dishonest about how vulnerable they are, and about how pain and personal experience are more important to their ideology than logic or reason.That's not fair and your first argument is my point. Yeah the red pill devolved into a place for incels and guys who hate "tall white guys" but that's certainly not trp subreddit at its best. It used to have the guys who encouraged spinning plates but that wasn't everyone and there are good arguments as to why a trp guy might not want to do it. I do agree that the worst amongst us get all the attention. That's true on the news, in classrooms, and in women's heads. Yes there were callous guys who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather date a woman who has a very successful OF but virgin or a woman who's had many partners?That she genuinely prefers me physically and sexually over her previous partners, that she is just as turned on by and satisfied by me, that she reacts to me with the same passion, excitement, lust and satisfaction as she did towards the others. I agree with this and think it is the winning argument when we discuss N count around here. I surrender to the bloop arguments that a person can change, or an individual slut might still be the coolest girl I've ever met, or that promiscuity in the past … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/22 01:42 PM |
| 0 | us men should not fear going the extra mile when pursuing unattractive good women.The point is speaking to other dudes like you, worked out for enough of us trpers. We never should have bothered trying to justify ourselves to anyone. I don't care if our shit isn't peer reviewed(they wouldn't let us which is a huge point) or it's just coming from a horde of anonymous guys. I know my experience is similar. Advice we pass around works. And I enjoy being around guys who aren't afraid of how they or anyone else talks. Forget being validated here or pretending we have to prove ours… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 10:29 PM |
| 3 | us men should not fear going the extra mile when pursuing unattractive good women.Can you appreciate how difficult it is, to know the world is rough, demanding, and callous, experience some trouble with a subject, and then have people go, "come on you're just not trying hard enough and you're being a baby." Maybe that's the case, but you're closing your eyes to other possibilities. That's not growth. Trp is pointing out hard cold truths that we didn't want to hear or believe were true. Can you appreciate how people who live in a world where existence is suffering might believ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 10:24 PM |
| 1 | AWALT? All women are like WHAT?Sexist maybe. Unable to dive deep into statistics and not speak in generalities. ...but not hatred. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 05:53 PM |
| 3 | West Elm Caleb Mega-ThreadI do believe you, but just to even the score, my mom recently tried to set me up with a friend of a family members. She was older than me by 4 years and has a kid. I was like, "So it's really all team girl? Someone comes to you with a woman and you suggest any guy around?" I asked her what we had in common. Didn't know a thing about this girl. No concern. But if I string a girl along too long, I'm being mean. How would I have known if I was stringing this girl along with no prior info as to who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 03:56 PM |
| – | What part of the opposite gender's sexuality made you feel disgust?Or it's something sadder, like when they define their musical tastes by the 1st few boyfriends they have. So whatever percentage of the guys willing to make the 1st moves on girls when we're younger, are into domination or some level of bdsm, and then we're just seeing the same phenomenon. The girls define themselves by the men they're alpha widowed by. Every time there's a song or screed about empowering women it's ultimately about how they frame themselves compared to men. How to change relati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 11:35 PM |
| – | CMV: True freedom as a man is when you stop caring what women think about you entirelygood job on taking rejection like a champ. But some men take rejection from viscerally, and react in violent or toxic ways (incel, mgtow). If everyone could take rejection as a fact in life, things would be alot less he vs she mentality. You took a compliment and turned it into an opportunity to slander "some men" and fear monger. Hardly the argument that should be coming from someone who said, "yea it happened to me too but I grew from it." Now that I'm wiser, and having been on the ugly end of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 06:38 PM |
| 3 | CMV: True freedom as a man is when you stop caring what women think about you entirelyExcept for specifically right now. Except for the fact that a lot of guys, and probably women, need this exact thing at this point in history. Yes a fully actualized adult who is emotionally stable needs to appreciate this point from both sides. But it is very correct, currently, to point out that it is enormously different to be dismissive of men rather than dismissive of women. If you are incapable of acknowledging that it might, ever, be necessary to consider women are too high and mighty, th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?I think your argument is a sound one, but I'm still gonna disagree a little. Like, yes, I know toxic guys. I know guys who were losers pining after a girl and then became shitty because something they never had any right to, went off another way. So yea, you've got me that trp won't work for every idiot and lots of losers will do shitty stuff with it. If you feel thats worth shutting stuff down and cordoning off teachings, I will concede that point. Personally I'm an adult and capable of learnin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 10:18 PM |
| 2 | Do most men actually want to be with a traditional woman?I think you have a good argument here and you're presenting it rationally. So points for you from someone on the other side of this one. What I want to raise to someone like you is, do you recognize that your argument, while it might not be this, is dangerously close to, "women are individuals. You can't make ANY generalizations about them and learn from that info. It's wrong and mean to think people are used up and you can't try and avoid the mistakes of your past relationships by looking anywh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/02/22 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Ego-dystonic sociosexualityFair. I agree. My only thought is, and this works with what you've said, how do we determine what men are willing to pine after what they could have vs would have been very happy with the old paradigm. Like most of the guys I know are total blue pill dudes, who "want to give the world to a woman." They are perfectly capable of loving one woman, in a stable boring(to her) situation and not having any cognitive dissonance that they'd bang every girl they see if they could. But as you're pointing o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 06:27 PM |
| 2 | Ego-dystonic sociosexualityAnd then the conundrum becomes what we see on here a lot, can these men complain about this phenomenon or is it sour grapes? I saw what one friend of mine was capable of with social media and women. He put in a lot of time & effort and did questionable things. Got to know good girls only to never see them again. So the guys like me go, ok...I could be me. But he is winning, and I'm likely to end up with a girl who he or some guy like him went through. Maybe there is no other answer than be him a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/22 04:30 PM |
| 0 | Why does comfort and familiarity kill attraction with women?Oh so one baseless example is worth a fit, but you're really gonna turn around and use, not even someone else's on top of your opinion, no, just your own insular supposed experience? 🙄 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Am I supposed to assume every nice thing a guy does for me is to get in my pants? It feels wrongYou don't need to worry about covert contracts. This person wanted something out of you and didn't bother to communicate that at all. That is their failure and it's manipulative to put it back on you for accepting help. I'm as red as they come, but this stuff isn't fair. The equivalent is women who expect relationships after sex. It's not fair to have covert contracts and you were in the right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/22 01:12 PM |
| 2 | My girlfriend would've slept with me on first date, if i wasnt boyfriend materialFairness is deeply deeply understood. They are being disingenuous that they do not understand our plight. They may honestly want things to be different in that free sex is fine and no further emotion is attached to it. But that clearly isn't how a lot of us feel. We can accept that we are different demographics in the sexual market place. But the fact that they will not acknowledge and let us own our feelings on this says a lot to me. https://youtu.be/meiU6TxysCg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Women who complain about men watching porn have the same argument as men complaining about average women fucking top-tier menThey also literally date the more dangerous guys. There's no way the venn diagram of nice, docile, domesticated dudes includes more relationships than the one where the guy can beat up most of the people around him, or is perpetrating the charade that he can. So it's not just the porn these guys watch. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Women who complain about men watching porn have the same argument as men complaining about average women fucking top-tier menPlus I think we ignore the aging consumer of porn. Idk what insecurities 45-65 yr old men have but it makes sense to me that they market towards them on sites. Am I missing something huge that we're assuming it has to be a problem for young guys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 04:39 PM |
| 3 | Women who complain about men watching porn have the same argument as men complaining about average women fucking top-tier menI think it's older women. We don't realize there are moms and older women on here moralizing and spinning their wheels at the language we use and the attitudes we have. And home schooled Christians I think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/01/22 01:15 PM |
| 2 | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.I liked a lot of this. I don't know how to reconcile what we've said with our experiences. I am very upset at how sensitive people are and I have a compulsion to point it out. It doesn't mean that I'm not sensitive, just I know what I'm sensitive about. I didn't start lashing out because im mean spirited, I always thought I was trying to help people be better people. Own up to what they do, how they act despite what they say, and how they think. I can accept that my perspective has become bitter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 04:18 PM |
| – | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.Ok so you've tarred me. Can we move past that? Or did you need that for your argument? You're assuming the girl was dumped, Ok fine I did assume that. I'm a dude on the internet and I don't take myself very seriously. Have a point. I'm not being sarcastic, I can reach across the aisle to you. Even after you decide my argument is worth attacking how I think. "One that hasn't been used" does not make sense logically, at all. Most people never stick with their first serious relationship long-term, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 03:36 PM |
| 3 | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.Go back to the Evo psych explanation. Men are interested in confirmation of paternity. So other than passing on your genes there is some pride and ego involved. If it doesn't embarrass the guy then you're fine. So applying your sexual standard equally goes along with how shameful it is. Kissing a few guys won't make my friends or enemies laugh over you. Gangbangs(being used), giving easy blowjobs that everyone at the party finds out about, homie hopping. This is the sort of stuff that bothers pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:22 PM |
| – | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.The guys around here like figuring things out. Boiling stuff down to it's essence. Not for every instance, but to prepare for the majority of them. The best bet for a relationship is someone who hasn't been dumped a whole bunch of times. So it's like financial advice. The men realize, get one that hasn't been used. Does it not make sense? It just makes sense logically. I get why it won't happen(there's not enough and we're not the guys they want) but it is bar none the best advice. Oh! Oh! But t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 01:08 PM |
| – | If you wouldn't commit to a woman that had a high n-count, you cannot complain when women "withold" sex before commitment.Lol they're describing a pattern that you have no solution to, they're not even directly implicating you, but it's so fucking obvious that this is a team sport for women that you guys can't back off for two seconds to realize that your arguments are just you whining about us talking about this. I'm not an incel or a mgtow, and I haven't lived my life a tradcon way. But I'm secure enough in it that people can call me whatever name they want as I play in my mud. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/01/22 12:25 PM |
| 4 | Callousness and crueltyThis gets at a deeper phenomenon that I think is occurring on ppd. Women are attracted to 5% of men. Men are attracted to 60% of women. And yet a lot of the people here are nerds arguing over how Stacy's and Chad's get along. Yea I think beautiful social butterflies date other attractive people and CHOOSE their partner somewhat on purpose. Many of us fall into relationships with whoever is showing us interest at our job, group dynamic, social event. And then we decide why we find that person att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/22 06:46 PM |
| 0 | Study on Sexually and Romantically Unsuccessful Men “Linked to Local Mating Ecology”At the very least it would be filling these guys lives with good friends and worthwhile hobbies that they can develop skills at and become competent citizens. We have to live amongst these people. Just because they want women doesn't mean they get women. There are other ways to validate your existence. We could be good people to them. Listen to them. Don't give them what they want as they're underdeveloped children and you don't reward kids for tantrums. But being unsympathetic says something ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/22 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Those Who Complain About OnlyFan/Instathots... What Would You Actually Like Them To Do Instead?I'm mostly on the "just jelly" point.(cuz I think it's good) This post feels like concern trolling. Idk who these guys are that complain about only fans, but it sorta sounds like idiot talk. Like when no one knows what to talk about so they take a shot at low hanging fruit and no one else is really into the conversation. I don't mean someone who knows how to hold everyone's attention. Someone naive an inexperienced at being entertaining. Always telling lame jokes. It's not a confident productive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/22 03:14 PM |
| 1 | Opinions on Men’s and Women’s Only SpacesI don't care for incel content either, but what's your argument? Why draw the line there? I do believe some incels incite violence but as we learn here about generalizations, not everyone is like that. It makes me feel for the incels who aren't violent and just got labeled "losers" AND "dangerous". I'm not afraid of their ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 06:03 PM |
| 0 | Opinions on Men’s and Women’s Only SpacesThe question becomes, when would you censor the men's group? "Oh its fine for them to have it." Is not the end of the discussion. Eventually blue pilled people determine that trp people aren't discussing things worth discussing and blanket mark them as undesirable/ignorant/hateful. They eventually don't believe we deserve to discuss things. In the most charitable interpretation, do you believe men can talk crassly about things? Are they allowed to say ugly shit? Because that's what we're talking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:55 PM |
| 2 | Opinions on Men’s and Women’s Only SpacesYou stated your opinion so please don't take this as anything other than mine, but I specifically want to live in a society, with freedoms, that allow for mature competent individuals to act as they see fit as long as they don't physically or financially hurt anyone. Thus, if an echo chamber could hurt a fool, oh well. It is not my prerogative to make sure everyone in the room is an adult. That's on their parents. I want people to recognize that I don't hurt other people and then let me do risky… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/22 05:52 PM |
| 0 | Is it fair to say that the evidence shows that women find it difficult to feel attraction for a man with less money than her?I'm not disagreeing but like it's not that trp rhetoric is what's wrong. Its misunderstood. It's that chance is not understood by people. If all young guys were taught red pill things they wouldn't always get the girl of their dreams, but their interactions with the ones around them would improve and that metric would be valuable to this conversation. The women would be more pleased with the boys around them, and hopefully(it's hard to give humanity the leeway) the men would present better role … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 11:22 PM |
| 1 | If you're going to tell men to feel comfortable with being the stable option, you must be willing to be the stable option yourself.Because they don't treat any of it like the rational contract that it is there's always plausible deniability. You're sitting there going, I don't want to feel dirty and disrespected if I wake up to a different woman some day, and then there's the social shaming that will come with having made a bad choice and seeming stupid for that. But because blue pillers always say they just took a chance on love. They thought he was the one so you're cold and evil for suggesting that there was a choice. It… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/22 05:43 PM |
| 3 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.I have existential feelings about what love actually is. It doesn't mean I'm incapable of providing a women with affection, gifts, and loyalty. I'm just someone who asks myself deeper questions. So whether the one exists or if love is real at all, is interesting to me. It does not tear apart my argument that one side is a bit more realistic than the other. That WAS my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 10:36 PM |
| 9 | It is NOT INSECURITY to want to be the best sex your partner has ever had. Period.I've definitely seen this in men, but this whole best sex/most thrilling romance thing is usually women(by nature of who is more likely to have sex with their desired partners) and the thing that upsets me is all the trouble I've seen people go through by having these elaborate wedding ceremonies to absolutely build up their story, only to have this shit underlie it. She made you say you "love" her and she believes you're "the one", you can't say you don't believe in that stuff. Cutsie little si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/22 06:05 PM |
| 1 | women on reddit: wOMEN do noT tHINK 80% OF Men ARe uNATtRACTIve, tHAt'S a myTh PeRpetuatEd By INceLs ON REddit". also women on reddit:Aren't you the least bit concerned with it serving exactly your purpose, to say that "those guys were all drunks". It was definitely not all of em and probably not even most. So there's a large contingency of society that is struggling and dealing with hardship, but the battle between the sexes is not ubiquitous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/22 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Men, would you rather be the man women respect but have little or no sex with, or the man women don't respect but frequently have sex with?We didn't like you for the right reasons. Because of deficiencies we see in your character. It is not a shallow selfish judgment being made. You can hide from it all you want, and that seems to be a winning strategy currently, but the point is sound. If women en masse put in more effort the world would be a better place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 10:50 PM |
| 2 | Men, would you rather be the man women respect but have little or no sex with, or the man women don't respect but frequently have sex with?I think one of the more important aspects of trp is that many of us needed to be shocked or dragged in some way into the realization. The more blue pilled dislike the Evo psych conjecture and we get it, it can be harsh. But beyond that stuff is the individual. You can rise above generalities and trends. And so, those who have been through the realization and appreciate things harshly, are STILL capable of seeing the good in people and having hope. So you must think long and hard to understand th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 07:33 PM |
| 2 | And now for the forbidden topic: Women have massive racial preferences in dating, men by and large don't.While this is certainly an argument if these dudes live in the US and the women treat them this way I do want to learn about it. It's worth discussing as taboo data is valuable since many people obfuscate their least desirable traits during courtship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/22 02:59 AM |
| 0 | If availability/practicality/social stigma is no obstacle, do men prefer virgins/chaste women for marriage? What proportion?Idk what you mean and why you did that to my argument. Obviously my ramblings move inward on the spectrum from the extremes. Someone who is likely to trend towards nagging and whining over minor inconveniences will be more or less likely to act that way based on how much they have used their experience to grow and learn rather than chase dopamine highs and instant gratification. I'm not unable to understand the good in people of both sexes and I'm not here because I'm super emotionally hurt abou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 02:38 PM |
| 4 | If availability/practicality/social stigma is no obstacle, do men prefer virgins/chaste women for marriage? What proportion?waiting to marry to have sex with someone is a very big risk because you don't know how sexually compatible you are. If this were true we wouldn't rush to have sex with people we don't know even when we've learned how difficult it is to breakup with people we don't totally hate but aren't exactly right for us. Which I've done several times and have not learned to keep it in my pants until I know the situation. And I have a low count. There's no large group of us who are specifically sexually inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/21 01:24 PM |
| 1 | The biggest turn on for adult women is a guy that has plenty of things going in in his life.They're saying that you're likely being too generous in your example because it simply destroys the argument with a scenario most of us don't believe in and didn't take much creativity to come up with(if fake). And it was reinforced in this comment where you stated Yea well a girl who has a problem with games is repulsive and low value to me, so I'm not missing out. Personalizing the argument like that indicates you have ego involved in the matter which means your points probably cannot be taken… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 12:59 PM |
| 1 | Can Average Men Date and Have Sex Just Like Average Women?Why would I not be saying what I did as a guy who does put in the effort? That's called giving someone the benefit of the doubt. If you always assume the absolute worst then of course we'll be at an impasse. And idk who these guys are. I've reveled in having girls tell my friends I was good. I'm a slacker but I try at sex jeez. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/21 01:22 AM |
| 11 | Can Average Men Date and Have Sex Just Like Average Women?The enthusiasm is what guys like. Girls who smile and seem like they're truly enjoying themselves. The men think the women only shows up with that when the dude is hot. So he wasn't misrepresenting. You just have to know which kind of sex is validating for men. It's not men wanting porn sex. It's that women give hot guys porn sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Single mom demands fancy dates but won't date single dads.None of it matters if she's attracted to him or he's rich. Her words are for beta foolin' | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/12/21 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?Idk who youre talking to or what you think you're saying but I'm being chill with you. Why can't you talk to me? I think we both know what's happening here. I'm just up for a little fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/21 12:35 AM |
| 2 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?What have I not been able to handle? I've tried to enjoy conversing with you and explain myself. I don't think that I tried to gotcha anywhere or invoke other red pillers thoughts. Just my own. I wanted to try and explain it a bit for someone who wasn't seeing my side. How could you possibly misunderstand which of us is considered "politically correct". It isn't a safe space for you? You're the one arguing AGAINST the red pill. It already makes sense to us. You're the ones bashing your heads aga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 09:13 PM |
| 4 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?I don't care that you call me names. I'm upset that we can't talk about the points rather than devolve to whether or not I or people who think like me are decent or good enough people to BE speaking with. And oooo I made a claim. And generalized it. I didn't realize I was on trial and couldn't make any misstep in speech, or else what? You'll misunderstand me and take everything out of context and try and paint me in the worst possible light. Idk about Chad trading, I didn't speak on that. Gain c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?Did a real good job letting me say something about the red pill and then insulting and mocking me and the idea. Isn't that the OP? Yea I think it is. I wasn't saying women cheat. The example pointed out WHO men are attracted to. They don't have to cheat or act on it as you said. It's just knowledge I want. And you said we could have that but I don't feel comfortable expressing myself. I don't think I said anything aggressive in my post but you came at me. Over ideas. In a debate sub. Online. Tex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 02:24 PM |
| 5 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?Their examples made perfect sense. The secretary example demonstrates the desire to be honest with ourselves that the husband will at least be more sexually attracted to the young pretty secretary than he will to his wife of many years. This has always been "known" but it's an example of the sort of info that is taboo...when it's about women. Saying these sorts of things out loud helped a lot of guys who were stuck in the "everything is great. You're special" world. It didn't always need to be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 02:04 PM |
| -1 | Where does this hate for TRP come from?Well this has all been quite the dodge from the OP. But ya know, it's good you sat them down and pointed out that they're evil and stupid and shouldn't make posts anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/12/21 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Opposite Sex FriendsSo you admit we're hear discussing your frustrations with what the least intelligent and valuable amongst us has to present? We've chosen their arguments to spin our wheels and confound ourselves with because we've already tackled all the important questions? My question, do you believe an important aspect of the red pill thinking is how they feel about female besties? Or that anyone should concern themselves with this. Even if you're the most red pilled dude there is, it's meant to help you, so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/21 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Gave you ever pulled the "fake date" joke on a girl? How familiar are you with this trend? It seeks to have happened to a lot of us women based on the thread earlier...Look it's all well and good that you want people to discuss this with. But there isn't a rational answer. It doesn't benefit anyone. It's a prank like intentionally hurting someone by messing with their bike tires. Why would asking out someone they don't care about hurt their chances? Like if a girl they did like saw or heard about it? Sure, but as someone who didn't even care about dating in high-school it all makes sense to me as everyone was choosing cheap thrills and immediate gratification … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:26 PM |
| 0 | Gave you ever pulled the "fake date" joke on a girl? How familiar are you with this trend? It seeks to have happened to a lot of us women based on the thread earlier...They might back you up that it happens...as does my prank example. But how does this seem blue or red pilled? This isn't just a battle of the genders and because men were mean to you, there's something inherent to discuss. Would this behavior benefit the men in dating at all? We wouldn't suggest the men practice this for any reason. Can women learn to avoid these random attacks or as with all random attacks one cannot anticipate without becoming paranoid and assuming things about all men. What i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Gave you ever pulled the "fake date" joke on a girl? How familiar are you with this trend? It seeks to have happened to a lot of us women based on the thread earlier...This doesn't so much seem like on purpose, conscious, romantic interplay as it does, the equivalent of ding doing ditch. It's actually a prank. The only reason it's even gendered is because most men, young ones especially, are afraid it's edgy to dance around being gay. So they fake ask out a girl they don't even know. Sure it's cruel, but so is putting a stick in someone's bike tires. This really isn't the place to discuss though. Those guys weren't trying to date anyone. We don't discuss men c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/21 04:08 PM |
| 2 | She did "prior acts" with her other BFs because he was an "asshole" and if youre not an asshole its your faultThat's a fine point on its own. But frame is certainly a valid topic of discussion and I do believe this OP was presented in a way that will help people understand trp even if they have to sidestep your argument. The idea being, many of the things we complain and argue about here, could simply be avoided by men being clued into this sort of thinking. The trouble is, NO ONE wants to admit it besides trp. If a guy acts stoic and stays in his frame he can be all the things we claim. Many will say e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/21 10:36 PM |
| 0 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.This is where it gets kinda annoying for us trpers. Because like "it's OK as long as you're not a hypocrite. And actually I don't agree with the premise at all because it's mean. Lots of sex is fine." Isn't much of a discussion. I am a bit conservative with who I choose to sleep with. I'm not a virgin but no dudes accept my process. I've turned down a lot of opportunities. So I say id like a girl with less n count. (I don't actually date this way, but it's a debate sub.) It's OK for me to say it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 08:41 PM |
| 3 | Do irreligious conservative women exist?But you're leaving out the part where HE'S conservative and will put out before marriage. Your deliberately portraying it in the worst way possible. Because I took it as someone who isn't totally about every new thing out there but also doesn't believe in strict moral religious teaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 02:51 PM |
| 3 | Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships.Ok...but this thread is about when the women do it. Your opinion is a breath of fresh air and all, but the unspoken purpose of this thread is for you to show up with this exact comment after some other blue pillers here directly dismisses the OP simply to maintain decorum. To me, I find it more alarming if he’s had a long history of disassociating sex and love. Is it OK for us to say the same in the other direction. Because we are saying it. And getting a lot of pushback. On just saying somethin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 02:46 PM |
| 1 | With the news reports about outlawing "pestering" women in streets / bars, in the UK, what effect will it have on daygame and cold approaching?The troll won this thread everyone | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 02:42 PM |
| 2 | With the news reports about outlawing "pestering" women in streets / bars, in the UK, what effect will it have on daygame and cold approaching?Sorta feels like you're feeding a troll at this point. This person might not think of themselves as one, but I feel like I've seen them acknowledge that they're not interested in having a fair argument and that pushing trp's buttons are victory enough rather than making an attempt to truly argue with you. Idk if you feel this around here, but the non trp folks don't treat us as people to be debated. They're looking for ways to shut us down. They're trying to end the arguments which is why they'r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/21 01:13 PM |
| 1 | What do you think are the worst and best dating platitudes?Everything he said made sense. It felt like you guys thought you were circling the wagons of a gasp player!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 10:02 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Tom Leykis was more valuable then Rollo, Cooper and the whole TRP crewWhy do you feel a need to GO TO dislike or criticism with these dudes? If you don't like them, or comment you don't like them are you not allowed to go to trp forums? Do people dismiss you out of hand and treat them like cult leaders, making it difficult to discuss things? Cuz if not.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:44 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Tom Leykis was more valuable then Rollo, Cooper and the whole TRP crewHow does your revelation that they suck teach us anything? I don't worship authority figures either, I take what I can and walk away. That's the depth here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/21 01:31 PM |
| 3 | How true is the phrase "men are the gatekeepers of relationships" in this modern world where the dating pool is so large?The only parameter I have at this point is that the other person not play a game where they secretly try and doubt, undermine, or straight up pick on me with the only redeeming idea being, "I might like you more if I put you through this gauntlet." That isn't a relationship and I refuse to be part of it. If this requires such an imbalance as you've described then it is desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 04:48 PM |
| 1 | Alternative to the Key/lock analogy.If you believe in sexual fidelity why are you even arguing with these posters? Their argument is there is value in having discretion on this parameter. I don't agree. I don't live a life that agrees. But I'm not pig headed enough to believe that there aren't arguments against me getting what I want all the time. Just because an argument makes my actions look ugly doesn't mean I knee-jerk dismiss it. That's so obviously a handicap to me being my best. Team girl is ride or die. (P.s.- A guy who us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/21 03:19 PM |
| -1 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?Two wrongs don't make a right. Sticks & stones...make a point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/21 08:48 PM |
| 7 | If all women are attracted to a similar type of man physically...what type of personality appeals to the broadest amount of women?One of the key aspects of trp is not hiding from a truth. And you disagree with what he thinks he's spotted as a truth everyone else is hiding from. It's tempting to want to find one. So you might say, "well see, I don't think your fact is correct. I think you should look at it this way." Because he came back at you with no vitriol. There's a disagreement here, but you don't need shaming or blame. Just because I'm bitter about this, take note of this interaction. Trpers are often blamed for our … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/21 08:17 PM |
| 3 | TRP is meant to be a locker room not a scientific study"Take what you need, disregard the rest" The OP explained how you're meant to handle rp stuff. It's one of the things that drew me to the place. When no one is censoring other peoples thoughts (especially through concern trolling) it becomes clear that people can speak their mind. And I think some of the savvyest amongst us don't speak up, because it is so clear we're speaking against a protected class. In the way a dad may leave a few pizza boxes around for the weekend, in the name of fun, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/21 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Delusional women aren't more common than delusional men. They're just way more visible and vocal.Oh cool, so following instant gratification and shaming others for even questioning your actions. Going so far as to suggest that those who disagree are murderous-adjacent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/21 12:10 AM |
| 10 | Most women don't deserve prince charming. Most women (like most men) are average and deserve average men. That western women waste their youth throwing themselves at high value men they don't deserve only to be pumped & dumped is why they end up bitter, alone or "settling".I'm on your side that an enlightened conscious light being can act willfully and with intention. But we absolutely are animals at least some of the time and we're all kidding ourselves if we don't think there's some seriously deep validation to sexual selection....and the more I think of it, being blind to it or pretending to be might be pretty deeply rooted in the entire debate here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 02:52 AM |
| 2 | What are some of the worst “feel good” lies about daying?I think most people's politics are based on who they like to date anyway. So yea if you're hot enough or do it well enough in the bedroom, they'll likely capitulate and convince themselves they always saw it from your POV anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/21 06:38 PM |
| 2 | If high n count women weren't shamed but also generally weren't taken seriously as long term partners would you still find that unfair?But men who don't want women with high n counts as partners wouldn't be shamed for their choices. Additionally those who point out that if a girl is relationship minded it may be a detriment to sleep around aren't being misogynistic just accurate with reality. Lastly and probably most controversially, men that tell other men that if they want happy relationships they're better off avoiding women who have had a lot of sexual encounters, not because there's anything inherently wrong with them, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/21 10:53 PM |
| 1 | It's curious how things women usually say regarding sexual dynamics boil down to a ruthlessly capitalistic rhetoricI agree, but can you not appreciate the male desire to fix problems. The men are upset by a scenario and they wish to discuss how to rectify this in the future. I do think there are some very real points to your argument. But I was explaining why they're not "rapey" or whatever. They do not deserve to have it insinuated that they desire sex with women at any cost. Their argument may be annoying, clueless, or even immature but it's allowed to exist without that specific shaming. But I was thinkin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 03:27 PM |
| -1 | It's curious how things women usually say regarding sexual dynamics boil down to a ruthlessly capitalistic rhetoricI think the argument is, that over a generation, or some time span, not instantly, if women gatekept sex more, the ones who could hold down the "best" guys would take them off the market. Then all the women down the line would partner off with what they could get, making the non-chad men no longer undesirable. Now they are precisely what she was always going for. (Presumably) Point being, it's a strawman to say they want sex with unwilling women. They argue that the system is broken and that a d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/21 03:12 PM |
| -1 | "Put your finger in the coffee, it'll make it sweeter": endearing or Harvey Weinstein?But the language being used in response, gross, disgusting, cringey, asshole and pathetic, are different words than inappropriate, rude, and annoying. I've had women put their hands on me all my adult life. Just yesterday and older woman put her hands on my hips 3 times as she walked behind me at work. It felt appropriate because there was little space. But it was a shock to feel hands on my hips from behind occasionally. And I don't know her well. I could muster up the emotion to describe it as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/21 03:41 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pill Is Right, Haven’t Men Lost/Are Losing?For most of human history, many men, as babies, witnessed their mothers beaten and raped in front of them, when they weren't murdered first. When adolescents just about every man saw all the women and girls he knew and maybe cared or pined after taken by larger more aggressive men, either against their will or not. Most men throughout history, if they ever loved a women, saw her abused and taken from him by top men. Most men throughout history were conditioned to not expect female love and lived… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 01:28 PM |
| 2 | The Effects of Sexual Timing on Marriage Relationships.He was saying he keeps himself desirable. It doesn't automatically mean he has no personality or character worth dating. You're not making bad points but you did hurdle over that to make an assumption which you had an answer to.(build a personality) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 10:22 PM |
| 2 | The Effects of Sexual Timing on Marriage Relationships.The guy you're arguing against is hardly acting defensive about reality. Even if they are going for an ltr, they're being reasonable, and you're trying to dunk on em like they said the bluest thing possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/21 08:09 PM |
| 7 | So what's the reason male prostitutes for women are still FAR more uncommon than female prostitutes for men?The main factor is that women generally need to feel desired in order to enjoy sex. It's not only that finding sex is already easy. An interesting thought, one might say, the men have already been conditioned to expect no one to find them attractive or be desired so they are comfortable with it being a naked transaction. However the counter argument being that there are plenty of unattractive women who should be prepared to not be desired and yet they don't pay professionals. I don't know how to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/21 03:53 PM |
| 3 | So what's the reason male prostitutes for women are still FAR more uncommon than female prostitutes for men?good argument here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/21 03:47 PM |
| 8 | Men Mistake Being A Passive Doormat As Being Nice Then Claim Women Don’t Want Nice Guys.I'm officially concerned by the number of women I personally know with self esteem issues, so we can agree to disagree there. Great women too who shouldn't feel insecure. I don't think it's their fault. So to start, what's with the men and this topic is that we do experience literally what the above poster said, AND THEN we are told not to discuss or believe these experiences. It becomes addicting to hear other men relay having had the same experience. I don't think he lashed out at anything you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/21 03:16 PM |
| 20 | Is this what the kids call "basic" nowadays? Maybe she could've chosen a more lively name, like 'MsSlovenly_OneKid'It's simply easier for them to complain outwards. It's more interesting if the guy was "eeeevil". If it was just boring then why are you talking? But if he was abusive then the girls all validate her. No one asks any follow up. She won't be challenged so lying becomes easy. If she suggests she did something wrong or not up to par, it might shed a negative light on another girls problems or insecurities and all of a sudden she's triggered someone. So it's best to not even acknowledge your own sho… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/10/21 01:37 PM |
| 11 | Most marriages ending in divorce are happy until a sudden, abrupt event triggers the breakdown of the marriageIt was commodified like everything else. It used to be utilitarian. A marriage helped two adults raise children in a home. It wasn't easy or nice or idealic. It was a means to an end and it was demanded of everyone capable. Then in disney times where everything is easy and instant we made it so relationships are drugs and marriage is how your Facebook friends will know you are cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/21 02:44 PM |
| 8 | If you already have negative preconceived notions about women/men before you even meet them, you’re pulling out the rug from under your very own feet.They're arguing you're mis interpreting the vitriol. Men using ugly language might not necessarily lead to the feelings you've laid out. They're describing reality in a sterile way. It may sound harsh if you're not ready. Not saying it negates your ideas. Just how I saw it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/21 03:14 PM |
| 3 | Does this post show dual mating strategy and the guy's repulsion towards it?They can be at fault for being betas all you want. I even agree. It will never make it ok for a woman to tell him she loves him when she doesn't. Being a beta doesn't mean it's open season on taking advantage of chumps. And also more inclined to believe they made the exact right decision and got punished rather than accepting that their initial faith in their decision making was flawed. That's all we're asking of the other side as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Post-breakup: Men and Women are different.We're just getting past a summer, where a girl made an entire album about her high-school boyfriend breaking up with her, to the adulation of millions. I've heard a whole hell of a lot about this breakup and have yet to hear any crime or genuine misstep. The dude ended it with her, and got with another girl 2 weeks later. It sucks, but could I write a whole album about it? This is more important, would I feel comfortable doing that to an ex in front of the entire country? Should anyone be capabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/21 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Increased promiscuity among women leads to a higher sexual inequality for men and less sex overall for the average man.It's obvious that the men on PPD are terribly unhappy with the women in their lives, but to project to belief that their failures with women is the same all over the world, with most men, makes no sense at all. the men on PPD but to project Hahaha you just did it to us | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/21 02:47 PM |
| 3 | Why is being considered “Husband material” better than being fwb materialOk so, thank you and bravo. Great insight as well as giving the argument at hand the benefit of the doubt. This is why I see casual sex as a bad proposition for women. I feel like the next step is to ask you, can you entertain the notion that your above quote is an unpleasant truth? I don't consider you someone who is longing for traditional 1950s gender roles. That thought doesn't mean you hate women. It's just plain old the truth. A lot of us want to have NSA sex and fck buddies. It's just the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 07:39 PM |
| 2 | Why is being considered “Husband material” better than being fwb materialRight, what they said MIGHT be right. But they only came up with a scenario to drive the possibility trp poster was right, away. The fact that we couldn't possibly be right, is exactly what lead me to these thoughts. We definitely have no points to make at all. This place isn't even really for debate. They're just collecting us all together so they can shame and then tell us where to sit quietly and be forgotten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 05:51 PM |
| 4 | Why is being considered “Husband material” better than being fwb materialThey thought you wouldn't notice the moved goal posts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 12:08 PM |
| 2 | Why is being considered “Husband material” better than being fwb materialI also assume most of the girls I've known would have married and stayed with a bad boy/hunk if she could have. So the idea that she's now recognizing "husband/boyfriend material" means the whole project has been reworked in a less desirable way. She could have approached you and said "you're hot" and the good guy might end up married someday. But if she's approaching with the parameters being nice, safe, secure then you already know the score. It's less fun, more adult, and probably carries a l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/21 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Best dating strategy for women, is one that de-centers men.There's no way to know for sure, but do you think we attracted high school kids who are ripe to be inexperienced, uneducated, and in the throws of hormones and rejection/inadequacy. I'm just so hesitant to be critical of this forum because I don't think we're all coming from the same level of experience and understanding. Like the above poster pointed out, the extreme reactions makes me think I'm about to clap back at an awkward teen. Some of the responses I've received, when trying to be civil,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/21 04:28 PM |
| 8 | Women tend to downplay their dating advantageI think we all want to empathize with you on your personal experience. By using that as your shield you make us fight against it. "We don't care about your personal experience! It's just an anecdote." I don't want to have to do that. I want to be kind to you. But by not engaging the topic from an objective unbiased place you make us take up cause against your injustice. And that is a tactic that seems to get used a lot now. Instead of raising some interesting point or something to further discus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/21 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Blog: "Women Don't Pay For Dates."Not to mention that acting entitled and assertive is fine, but that key analogy comes into play. A lock that opens for any key... If a girl runs dread game, a dude would go insane from the constant competition. At least a guy running dread game is earning his attention and probably in a more comfortable position to turn down his suitors. A woman keeping you on edge like that all the time is too big a game. Especially for a wall flower and someone who isn't focusing on making meaningful moments o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | Blog: "Women Don't Pay For Dates."Many people on here attempt to talk about the OP but spend a lot of time relaying their specific past experiences. Same on tinder profiles. So you never know if you're getting a true insight. Something that was thought about and reached because of debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/21 12:05 PM |
| 0 | What do yall think about the new Demi Lovato post?Not rightfully so though. It's sour grapes. Their complaining is coping. I don't complain about top tier men exploiting me or my friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/21 01:03 PM |
| -1 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?Are you arguing that because we found trpers that they "lose" or should be shut down somehow? What difference does it make that its BS. It doesn't prove that they really educated themselves and are worthy representatives. Who would go to a basketball game ever again if it meant you were associated with the worst people who showed up? Or worse, just some ones who made comments online? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 08:04 PM |
| -1 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?TRP constantly views relationships as a power struggle which is why they are projecting hard on this couple to make them fit whatever narrative they need to go along with their ideology. It’s impossible to them that two people who were friends since they were teens simply later developed feelings for each other, nope the woman must be a postwall skank settling for her betabux orbiter. Normal couples don’t exist in their mind. You're broad brush stroking the whole ideology because of the anonymou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:31 PM |
| -2 | What is it about happy couples on social media that trigger some in the manosphere?I don't see the point in holding anyone responsible for this. It might just be angry 14 yr old trolls. They can hardly date and likely have nothing to offer a woman. There opinion isn't valid. I don't see how to discuss this. There are certainly those of us here who are in the manosphere and see nothing wrong with these photos or stories. Is that enough of a rebuttal? If we discuss crazy things random "feminists" do then this is a decent rebuttal, except for the fact that anonymous online threat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?Becoming a financially dependent housewife who has to fuck an old man she’s not attracted to for the rest of my life sounds like my personal hell. Literally a fate worse than death. I have several bosses and managers who are women and many coworkers. I'm in my 30s and many are in their late 40s and 50s. Many times have I found something about them attractive. Their smile, the way they hold themselves, the kindness they've shown others, or simply that they are accomplished and get things done. We… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 02:48 PM |
| 6 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?What about low 30s guys dating low 20s girls. Is that not an age gap relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 11:44 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Even if women date nice guys, they still find bad boys attractiveI agree that it is easier to be bad than good. I agree that it is possible to master being good. I do like your star wars analogy. The OP is arguing that as being bad reaches critical mass in our society, enjoy the decline, because women will choose a bad boy for convenience, rather than hope a good guy is a master. So all men, might as well choose the dark side. The OP was that while you are being a good guy, if you don't have everything together, you had better sprinkle in some bad, because yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 08:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Even if women date nice guys, they still find bad boys attractiveYou keep admitting that bad boys have all these advantages and they get desirable results. Yet you keep making the argument that if a nice guy reeeeeally has himself together, he can be so good that he's equivalent to a bad boy. That is an argument. And now it's been said. There isn't enough nuance there to continue without conceding a little bit of ground to OP. In the sense that OP is on to something if you've described the exception to the rule. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 07:14 PM |
| 0 | What does 'Hypergamy' mean to you?Are you arguing for any sort of re-imagining of trp understanding of hypergamy? Or are you saying we need to be careful with our current understanding of hypergamy because it might hurt people's feelings? What with lacking nuance and all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Women's dating/relational motivations are seen by mainstream society as more noble than men's, but they actually aren'tIt seems like people value family. That's what they say. But saying that makes them look good and moral, so we have incentive to make sure they act in accordance. I agree with the other poster as I've met enough kind demure Christians who care more about their daughter, friend, or any female public figure than they do marriage. I've talked with people about a marriage ending because the guy plays too many video games, and those who are meant to care about values and tradition and sacrifice all n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Women's dating/relational motivations are seen by mainstream society as more noble than men's, but they actually aren't"Regardless of what they say most women have had sex with a man that didn't invest much into it before, that's their real sexuality" You mean like everyone wants to have sex with someone they are attracted to? Why is this some sort of reveal of the true nature? That's plainly obvious. The topic posed was that female sexuality is easier to express socially because most people are kinder about a woman's choices sexually. You replied to a comment explaining how women do sleep w/ men casually and it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Women's dating/relational motivations are seen by mainstream society as more noble than men's, but they actually aren'tThis is too strong a counterpoint to be skimmed over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Men Spend Their 20's Trying to Fuck Stacy (Hot Women) and Then Settle For Billy Beta (Women of Similar Attractiveness)There's a male version but it implies a weakness that most men don't want to advertise. So weaker wussier guys are likely to cry over a break up. I've seen it. It happens. But good looking women are always being gaslit by everyone that everything about them is ok. So when they lose a guy they feel victimized and anyone who tries to take that feeling away is "wrong", "evil", "abusive". So where a guy will suffer in silence or be openly pathetic, women have power in weakness and the desire of othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of empathizing with men that they don't find attractive?Protest and demonstration have been ruined by the fact that police and detractors can send in bad actors to perform violence and escalate the group to chaos. It must be obvious that anonymous internet forums can and will be invaded by people who disagree with the participants ability to participate. Thus, it becomes paramount that we value free spaces. How can anyone with the proper intentions live their lives and connect with others without corruption growing? It's too easy to dismiss someone's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of empathizing with men that they don't find attractive?They made these quotes in a reply above: You have just defined the main reason why so many men, virtually all, are to be avoided: this gigantic character flaw that defines men. Men don’t want to help, they want to ensnare. They don’t care about you, they care about what they can steal from you. You have also defined: predators. And that defines men. Sooooo, I doubt even their generous ideas are gonna give me an insight I hadn't seen before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of empathizing with men that they don't find attractive?Or anyone really. I know I hedge my bets and hide my interests with people I don't know. It's just smart. Beings have the capacity to take advantage of other beings. And so women hide what they have that men want. And they hesitate to advertise how easy it could be to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 06:02 PM |
| 8 | How to spot an FDS kween on dating apps.Honestly I think they know the reality. It's just a tactic to make themselves feel better about themselves. They act like they're high value because no one calls them on it. And rarely when someone does, they can whine on Twitter about it for victim sympathy. They know. They're just not strong enough to write "Ehh I'm no catch but I'd like a nice guy." They're too fragile and opportunistic for that. But they cry over reality a lot I bet. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/08/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | What do you mean when you say men who consume porn but wont wife pornstars are hypocrites?I think naive people think it sounds like a real diss. There's a lot of harsh sounds and that makes it sound like a slam. It's usually a desperate exasperation, "well you're a hypocrite!" But I agree. There's no following shame. I haven't insulted anyone or said anything insensitive. I might even be capable of logically explaining why I'm a hypocrite and the winner in the situation. It's a response that you can walk away from. What if I say you should work out to be healthy but I'm a twig. Who c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 05:44 PM |
| 1 | Getting sucked into RedPill content distorts your perception of realityIt's pretty easy to say something in this vein about Christians or Muslims or bikers. And we've all learned why that's wrong right? Trp is a perfect example of how to deal with generalizations properly. You use them to your advantage and then drop the presuppositions that hurt your perception. And because blue pillers don't like what generalizations tell them, they blind themselves and blanket dismiss trp. In no way is it better for you to be ignorant than educated. NOW, I will agree that some l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/21 03:18 PM |
| 2 | The "80/20 rule" is now borderline mainstream. Two examples I came across this morning totally by accident.Yea sure, but this is at the heart of the ppd debate. Are the men to blame for being losers or are women to blame for mostly dating terrible men and then settling into these uninteresting relationships? You're making a point with a guy who's upset with the cashier at McDonald's because they are unenthusiastic about their job. The guy wants to be there. He's trying to spend his money. He's an idiot for not having standards of his own that he can ascend to and avoid this nonsense. But the cashier … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 10:55 AM |
| 1 | On Sheryl Sandberg's advice to women on finding a life partner: be the first guyShe's just making sure that all the girls corroborate their stories so Billy doesn't get conflicting stories when the girls are coping with how the alpha wouldn't commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Women telling men to uplift each other is a red herring, men do uplift eachother.I think the issue with a lot of things we discuss around here is that it hinges on the disagreeable amongst us following the agreeable people's rules and standards of comfort. The mean people would need to be nice in order for us to be happy. So if the nice people decide to only compliment this way, then the rude people will take advantage of all the women assuming they're just being nice. It's why the world is the way it is. Mammals learned to cooperate to succeed, and evolution brought along t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/21 07:34 PM |
| 2 | Can we talk about the day in the life of Chad comment?The issue here is what is she entitled to expect in this scenario? If I hung out with someone for the first time, I'm expecting them to brush up against some of my comfort boundaries. It's understandable and I will be reasonable about it. So this girl meets a new stranger, has sex with him, and then finds out he's rude. This is different than a women vetting a guy, doing her due diligence and then finding out he was getting what he wanted by lying about what she wanted. That's malicious. Men her… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/21 03:46 PM |
| 0 | Question for women: which pilled men do you prefer?I'd be wary of too much labeling. With a topic as contentious as dating and casual sex doesn't it seem likely that many will be damaged and less than desirable. The demo we attract will inevitably include those who aren't able to make friends, be cool, or properly entertain others. An example that comes to mind would be AA. Obviously the cohort that attends will include undesirable people and those without much hope. But success stories will occur and even some people who weren't so bad to begin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 03:49 PM |
| 5 | Crux of young men’s anger towards dating market and women comes from different prices of admissions for sex for different men and the disinformation women put out about what they are attracted to.I know I was shocked at the jealousy I saw when Instagram models came up around my last few LTRs. And I didn't bring it up. And they obviously wished they were an insta model. So whether or not they're hitting that level. It's desired and probably mimicked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 09:07 PM |
| 1 | How can you expect "casual sex" in non-casual or non-sexually-charged situations/environments? How can you expect a sexual outcome when you yourself aren't sexy?I'm getting that impression more and more. I really like this place and the idea of having discussions here. But I do fear that if I were to go to a meet-up, I'd slip back out the door once I saw who was in attendance. Like I'm afraid it's all teens as well. Often I wonder if we discussed this in real life, if the adults would be calmer in disuading the youth of their delusions, and the youth wouldn't argue so vehemently against the older as well as taking their info to heart more often. Not tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 04:29 PM |
| 1 | How can you expect "casual sex" in non-casual or non-sexually-charged situations/environments? How can you expect a sexual outcome when you yourself aren't sexy?It's everywhere in society. If I work in the industrial farming industry and have intimate knowledge of some inner working which makes animal abuse the least bit rational, these "feelings" people have been taught that their tears are powerful and then they try and win every argument with emotion. It's degrades all merit as markets react to what works. So people are getting used to winning arguments with feelings rather than tested information. Obviously it's easier to just start crying and let y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 03:59 PM |
| 1 | How can you expect "casual sex" in non-casual or non-sexually-charged situations/environments? How can you expect a sexual outcome when you yourself aren't sexy?You can't come here and make arguments because bad actors will always give us ammo to dodge your points and complain about abuse!!/s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 03:47 PM |
| -2 | Are ALL LTR's doomed to failBut again, the market dictates it. Doesn't matter what the majority desire if they don't pull the strings. We'd all like to have free food, but the market doesn't react to such desires. It's important to acknowledge aspects of reality which are unpleasant. It grounds our perception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/21 03:23 PM |
| 3 | I used to be a "good man"...Hah! So literally one of the jenga pieces we took out. Thanks I didn't know this. | /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre | 27/07/21 07:41 PM |
| 13 | I used to be a "good man"...The real question is do you believe these rare people can be cultivated? Or are they happenstance. Has every king in history had trouble raising a competent heir because it's a luck of the draw type scenario or do stable societies and families have a shot at creating principled mature individuals. Was history headed somewhere, and the last 60 years degraded, or was religion and puritanical culture simply holding back everything we now see. I too am deeply upset by the idea that the good amongst … | /r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre | 27/07/21 07:08 PM |
| – | Women are not wrong in their criticism of "men nowadays"They say they are too dorky, too boring, too weak, too effeminate, too hedonistic, too lazy, too poor, too manipulative, too cheap, etc.... I'm very accepting of this narrative. I'm not very traditional but I've always wanted to be a super hero so people getting in shape and muscly is something I support. My major in college was nerdy and it killed me what we'd be loudly discussing as women walked by. However, as to the above quote, what exactly is the justification for not being down with these… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 07:05 PM |
| 2 | As a man, you cannot be both weak and meek. You can only afford to have 1 of those handicaps.I agree that the reply seems genuine. It's a common problem we have around here in that BP people won't accept that yes they can FEEL that their way is better and more comforting. We are simply discussing hard truths. It can still make them upset and feel icky It's just that the truth is the truth. Agreed, accepting yourself is good. The fact remains there are infinite ways to feel good about oneself but an easy one is to grow your physical abilities. And we like giving advice that works. It doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Men dont respect womenWell it's cool that you have a lot to say about these terrible men. Kinda takes the discussion away from me though. I don't really have anything to add here as even you've noted they make it impossible for me to tell they're bad. I hope you interact with some better men i guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 11:00 PM |
| 4 | Men dont respect womenI understand a lot of what you express. I get why people think men should be more open. I was a very wussy kid growing up and could have benefited from more tough work and sharing less emotion in order to buckle down and work on the skills I had. I appreciate why men are "closed off". I think we view it the wrong way. It's not closed off, so much as these men don't need the extra emotional expression. It serves no purpose for them. They go to their job, come home and work on some projects around… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 10:48 PM |
| 3 | Men dont respect womenSounded to me like they'd PREFER to not discuss emotions with their male friends. Not that they're too tough to do it. They would rather discuss light, random, thought provoking things which could lead to a new interest or hobby. I don't think it's fair to take a preference and make it a weakness. That's your judgment not theirs. You started off the comment invoking "toxic masculinity" which makes them sound ignorant and troublesome. Then framed the argument in a way they didn't. I think the att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 06:45 PM |
| 5 | Men dont respect womenDon’t be rude and malicious unprovoked. A lot of men can’t manage that(intentionally or unintentionally) and those are the ones often being addressed when it comes to being told to “respect women” But why are you and I thinking about them? Aren't we starting from a place of discussing what respect is between decent healthy individuals? Malicious & rude people are the wildcards of human society. I heard this description the other day: We acknowledge that most men are not evil & abusive and most w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 06:17 PM |
| 6 | Men dont respect womenI appreciate the thought that went into this comment but I have to admit I disagree. Just because this is exactly the way I think it's misunderstood. For men basic human respect is the acknowledgment that I'll be baseline kind to you, not hurt you, and try and work pleasantly with you. There are plenty of people who I am kind to and helpful at work, but I don't want them in my personal life. I might think they're failures or stupid, but at work or in public, I show them respect. I think the wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 02:11 PM |
| 3 | The new show 'Sex/Life' is one of the top shows on Netflix worldwide (US, UK, AUS, etc) since it's release. Is the extreme popularity of this show with its female audience, similar to best sellers like Twilight, 50 Shades of Grey and other media, yet another example of open hypergamy?It's not about being attractive. I've rarely been able to pick up(literally) the girls I've dated. If they've dated some 230lb, over 6ft, football player ever, that dude could accomplish things I can't. The PC world wants meritocracy to not matter but as good sex is in women's interests, they look the other way and lie about the problems with getting their expectations set to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 01:28 PM |
| 4 | Women want to join a saved gameIs this attitude part of what we discuss here so often? The judgement women feel is appropriate is out of whack. This is your friend's partner. She's tied to this person. And she can't find a way to make unambitious into "likes to live simply." Having no charisma is not something to pick on someone for or nuke your marriage over. You even mention that he's plenty good looking. Why can't women try and find pride in who THEY chose. I try and downplay things I don't like in SOs because I know I cho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 12:11 PM |
| 2 | Overweight 38-year-old single mother seeks partner 6'1 or taller - must be mechanic/carpenter. Tingles are a REQUIREMENT.Its really just the result of not having anything interesting about oneself. If they had hobbies and talents, things they were proficient at, it becomes easier to be content when you're alone or bored. You work on what you're proud of and this brings validation. But without anything you produce and just living to consume, it becomes a terrible cycle of chasing the chemical high of shopping and new things. You need other's attention to validate you when bored. Which is always. And then it becomes… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/07/21 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Juggling men/women is a shameful practiceMany people don't live their lives like its a story being told. If they were the hero in their own story they'd know to be upstanding in how they treat others and themselves. It's easier to do the right thing when you want to be that kind of person in your story. I agree with you that a lot of people just think getting the best options for themselves is worthy of their story rather than walking a path that is worthy of being told. And I'm not conservative or religious. I just always wanted to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | The real reason some women hate PornShouldn't the dangerous individuals be dealt with specifically rather than slander/destroy an entire industry that helps people pay bills and support families. There must be camera/lighting/editing people who are innocent and just cashing checks like the rest of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 05:19 PM |
| 2 | The real reason some women hate PornYou're obviously right, but this is a good example of something trp does right. We would discuss how often we hookup with a girl who likes to be choked/tied up. Another guy chimes in a similar experience. And the reader knows, ok I'll prepare myself for this. Don't expect every woman to like it. Just be prepared. Seem cool when she expects it and you were ready. Doesn't matter in the slightest what the actual numbers are. Just now, an inexperienced guy has access to the info only a guy who's sle… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Society penalizes men for not having a sexual dichotomyCounterpoint, it is the result of non-red pilled posters denying anything anecdotal. Trp used to be filled with a lot of personal examples and stories. If everything here needs to be brought to a societal level in order to be taken seriously. If everything needs a sample size... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/21 03:56 PM |
| – | How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back?I'm sorta similar. Definitely pepper in body-weight exercising and listening to podcasts but I can relate. The issue is, people don't like who I am now, but they don't want me to evolve into the fullest version of me. It's not that they're upset that I isolate and seem anti-social. They don't like that I'm not a copy of them. Their advice would simply be to get married, work more, and spend all my energy on them, losing any creative time I have. I understand why that's good for them, but they're… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 04:56 PM |
| – | How is playing video games and watching porn holding modern men back?Or you're like, "ok what do you want to talk about?" And she's gives you that coy look and says,"idk, I just want you to pay attention to me." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/21 04:26 PM |
| 2 | New research: College women value physical attractiveness in their sexual partners just as much as men do.The reply is priceless | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 03:44 PM |
| 3 | Women have insanely narrow standards when it comes to PHYSICAL ATTRACTIONRegardless of the "feelings" you're assuming this person is expressing, they are making an argument here and you do a disservice to us all by trying to play counselor rather than engage with the subject at hand. If you wish to connect with people here, don't dismiss their ideas out of hand. Ask them why they have come to that belief. Even if you disagree, go down their rabbit hole and see if you learn something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/21 02:35 PM |
| 3 | I think the most misandric and misogynistic subs are respectively FDS and MGTOW. Does it say something that the former is about getting in relationships, the latter the opposite?That's one way around his argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 02:09 PM |
| 1 | I think the most misandric and misogynistic subs are respectively FDS and MGTOW. Does it say something that the former is about getting in relationships, the latter the opposite?It may be easier to notice if you were into something small that has grown to be huge, but just about anything with over 100,000(being generous) people involved will start shining a spotlight on the worst parts of the community. It's a valid concern to have but you won't be truly making a good argument to say there's something wrong with some words or ideas, when it's immature impolite people who are causing all the trouble. We need to focus on bad individuals rather than groups which contain so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | I think the most misandric and misogynistic subs are respectively FDS and MGTOW. Does it say something that the former is about getting in relationships, the latter the opposite?It's the same as religion. It's all just a bunch of words and ideas written down. People are the true problem in the world. Our agency allows us to do horrible things with innocent ideas and objects. "Guns don't kill people..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 02:05 PM |
| 3 | Women don't need to lower their standards. They need to raise them massively.I've always felt that the truest way to be anti-feminist is to actually be a feminist and start demanding that women care more about the real world and science and less about how they look, dating and relationships, and reality tv for God's sake. Every time i see one crying I'm like "you're supposed to be strong!". Whenever they get bored with my nuanced rants about something geeky I'm like "you're supposed to care about things that matter not your nails." And the reply may be that low IQ guys w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Feelings vs. "logic" in datingIdk how to contexualize what the above poster said, but your post points out what's wrong with OPs...logic. in that yes our society may very often rely on feelings, but it is to our detriment. I know exactly what you mean about not being too rational when a "feeler" is talking to you. It's so helpful to not get upset when they insult you because most of the time, they just wanted you to poke them back and make them giggle. They don't care at all about the insult or what was being discussed. I kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 06:05 PM |
| 1 | Feelings vs. "logic" in datingIt means you won. The moment we start making a point around here the excuse "well you guys don't like overweight unpretty girls" comes out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 05:55 PM |
| 5 | If you use a dark triad persona to attract women it's no surprise you attract AWALT womenBut you suggested that acting dark triad attracts only dark triad women. But if you're suggesting trp can use the traits for short term gain without being dark triad, then are you suggesting that many women are attracted to dark triad traits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/21 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Is Hypergamy a dirty word?You kinda got him there. I can acknowledge that. How do you feel about becoming bitter and negative towards your bf? I tend to think it isn't that women will trade their guy out, because of the ramifications mentioned, but they do compare men. And try and demand the same of us if another guy impresses. I see hypergamy as women fantasizing about their guy, and then they become upset if a better guy comes along and makes the fantasy harder to believe. Or if their guy gets lazy or doesn't do as muc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Is Hypergamy a dirty word?Not to mention the longer you're in these spaces, the more level headed easily understandable explanations you see, only for them to disappear, change no ones mind, and convince you to be bitter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Is Hypergamy a dirty word?As well, it's harder for those of us who accept reality to delve deeper into these topics. If people would come back with their own thoughts and ideas, rather than gaslighting and whining, we might be able to come up with more sound theories. We might find the right way to speak about these things. So that it isn't a half baked thought that insults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 04:01 PM |
| 2 | Women have blown the idea of Men only wanting sex way out of proportionThe part here that I find interesting is the Not all men were born RP'd. I agree and I wasn't born rp either. This is what interests me about this community. How non-naturals deal with and educate themselves on these topics. I've had a friend who almost stalked their ex out of a misguided belief that it'll all work out. There was no malice in what he was doing. And yet I couldn't talk him out of something so creepy. I've had friends who can date but the girls stop sleeping with them and they don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/21 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Women have blown the idea of Men only wanting sex way out of proportionSee I think the other guys here aren't expressing themselves well on this one. I think you have a good example that you are relaying to us, but I'm assuming your guy did have a character flaw or he was a good example of what were talking about here. But...most healthy men who know themselves well, I bet you their answer is that they could express themselves but would absolutely prefer not to. I don't like discussing or dwelling on my feelings. I knocked a glass of water over the other morning. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Women have blown the idea of Men only wanting sex way out of proportionSee as a rp dude, I don't love this perspective. It seems to me like you're focusing too much on one girl if her not wanting to be your girlfriend is so "painful". Like I don't think you should get this attached before you're actually attached. I've definitely been disappointed before when I couldn't convince a friend to sleep with me. But she's a human and I respect her choices. I found someone else. It's totally fine to feel however, and ask someone how they feel. But I don't love the idea of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 04:18 PM |
| 3 | Dating subs on reddit are extremely gynocentric and create unhealthy and unrealistic viewpoints on datingI think this is more important than we give it credit. Most people do not speak as if they are lawyers and I don't want to hold casual conversations to that level. As someone who has a pretty good vocabulary I don't want to criticize people who use turns of phrase incorrectly or who don't understand some colloquialism properly. People need to be able to speak out of their ass, while the rest of us don't hamstring them at every sentence, assuming the worst of what they've put forth. How many grea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 04:05 PM |
| 3 | Women have blown the idea of Men only wanting sex way out of proportionI agree. It clearly has aspects to it which enhance your life outside of dating. As well, it isn't trp's job to determine whether men and women can be true friends. If even women don't know, it isn't these men's fault for trying for something else which seems pretty naturally available to anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 05:59 PM |
| 2 | FDS women want a sexually submissive man with "alpha" traitsTrust me I'm a big fan of oral, but why the shaming? I've definitely been accepting of girls who don't like giving head or "their jaw gets sore" 🙄. It's a weakness but not something I ever brought up in a fight like I was stewing over it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 07:38 PM |
| – | Why do women hate men who show their good-looking bodies?Ok, I'm not gonna say I'm totally correct. Some of these RP guys are losers and angry. I can accept that. Now I don't have all day, but I scrolled through more than 4 top comments and some follow ups and most of it was people arguing against the claim that Only Fans was gonna explode or take over all women's lives. Most of the comments were about how simps weren't going away and it was all their fault. Now I do know the comments your talking about exists, but my point is that most trpers start o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 03:43 PM |
| – | Why do women hate men who show their good-looking bodies?The BPs here force the conversation into the mud. As the poster above you demonstrated, when trp commentors express themselves on these topics it is usually from a rational and cold mentality. No judgment. Now usually, eventually, someone will come along and push us on our calm approach and to get to the point we need to throw around some harsh words. We also aren't as triggered by such words so it's easier to let them out. But that isn't how I usually see it start. Most trpers are capable of un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 02:45 PM |
| – | Why do women hate men who show their good-looking bodies?I'm very much so on trp side of this type of argument but your point really ends this discussion. There are inequalities and petty insults but on this subject it's mostly people defending their egos. The girls clearly write their profiles to give off the impression that they're super in demand and are being chased by many half-naked adonises. Now obviously with everything else we see in our gynocentric society, this looks entitled, delusional, and pitiful. But realisticly they are just fronting,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Kid isn’t even here yet and she’s already looking for mr perfect to pay her billsAdded on to the fact that a large portion of our anecdotal data around here is based off of trashy & ugly people. I'm not saying NAWALT just that a large portion of this stuff coming from low value individuals isn't exactly a revalation. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/06/21 03:32 PM |
| 0 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareI don't know the math, but isn't this a similar argument against the vaccines. People are upset about some small number of deaths and complications from the vaccine. Just cuz they're happening every day doesn't mean it'll effect any significant proportion of us. A very small proportion in fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareJust because I'm making a hypothetical. I'm not all about grammar and won't back myself up on that. As well I'm flippant in how I speak. I don't need to be taken seriously and i speak passionately for no good reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareWell I certainly don't want to argue that kids are angels. And I have no kids of my own so idk what reasons parents give for this stuff. But as someone who works with troubled teens, it's nice to believe they can change and right the ship. But this all comes back to my old video games argument. Some tens of millions bought grand theft auto, and any other violent title you can think of, and yet killing sprees manifest as a rounding error. It's simply not right or fair to hold the rest of the popu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 09:02 PM |
| 8 | Most teenaged boys by 2023 will be red pill awareI have a whole argument in my head about how whatever specific incident your talking about has more to do with mainstreaming all the Blue pill opinions and then daring teens not to rebel against "let's care and love and never talk bad about anyone" politics. Obviously some edgy kid decided to take a jab at a taboo topic. It'd be insane to argue that has never happened in the past to each generation. Whatever you hold dear, teenagers will step on it. That's also not a crime. To doubt a "victim". … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Seems like men are wanting a woman with a low N count who will sleep with him on the second date...wait, what?Is it really an "issue" that some losers on this forum have an unrealistic expectation? Or are the women having fun dunking on a strawman? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 10:47 AM |
| 2 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momAs well, to cut to the heart of your post, one can call someone else lazy and dirty without saying they are your child and you their mother. It's a shaming tactic and many use shaming and guilt for coercion rather than to solve the specific problem. It's manipulation and dishonesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 01:15 PM |
| – | People are underestimating the popularity of the childfree movement in Gen Z.This is a really good example of something trp can help with. Now maybe words like "whores" and "sluts" are gonna get an eyebrow raise, but otherwise I've found that speaking my mind often is exactly what the women I'm dating like about me. I was raised pretty blue and it went really deep with me, but my father always loved taking jabs at anyone we were around and so I never felt bad picking on women and their thoughts. It developed into being open and honest with unpopular opinions and I've alw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 12:23 PM |
| 0 | How many women actually have more than 5 sexual partners?Are you willing to admit that on some level you ladies acknowledge our concerns BY being so prickly over this issue. Why do YOU care what we think of N-count. no actual way to vet these things. still chosen you to be committed to there really shouldn’t be an issue women can just lie You've got all these arguments, and many of the comments keep shaming men for caring and saying the men are dreaming women would get with them anyway. So for the women to protest a "dead" topic so much leads me to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 07:02 PM |
| 1 | Men here are getting their ideas of female nature from porn and porn-related things.The problem with this point is that it doesn't give the rp argument the benefit of the doubt. It's a strawman because sure maybe some moron said it, but obviously those of us worth engaging with don't believe such an exaggeration. I don't think it's 30 guys a day or 30 a year. I just have seen too many women be overtly flirty with me while denigrating their husband while we're all out having a nice time. I have seen women show tall handsome men their kind side while mocking the way their bf or h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:43 PM |
| 2 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesYou would be the richest and most remembered person in history if you solve the problem of theft. No one is accepting it. You get this right? You understand that we tolerate it at the expense of civility and do everything we can to prevent it including removing "God given rights" if you're caught. This is the sort of "logic" we're arguing against here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Isn't hypergamy just the female equivalent of men supposedly wanting to only date young(er) women?I think what this poster is trying to point out is that focusing on the hypocrisy here isn't really all that important. The rp understanding is one full of context and is a strategy designed with that context in mind. I would then ask you, who is it that cares if there is hypocrisy in this amoral situation? Everyone has their own interests in mind. Trp believe women are encouraged by society to pursue their interests and thus trp should as well. To then rush in and go "woaah woah, this is hypocr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 02:54 PM |
| 3 | Average men never truly experience a women's love at its full extentI never said I am looking for girls to fall head over heels for me , and abondon everything just to be near me . That would be crazy talk, and I very much would prefer the opposite. If you weren't looking for girls to abandon everything for you, why are you using that as the measure of "true love" through which you're comparing you and your guy friends' relationships? My question to you is simple. How is that seemingly, most girls turn into "insecure girls" when they are in a relationship with a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 07:27 PM |
| 6 | Average men never truly experience a women's love at its full extentCorrect, because she can dodge a real discussion happening by hampering you with endless rebuttals about how "you're wrong" and "mean". It's important to abandon certain convos here and remember that male spaces to discuss this stuff were shut down. So it's not like this attitude is rare. I would like to add that I think it's important that tall attractive men give us their insights here. I find this info valuable. So don't worry about speaking your mind occasionally, even if it isn't a perfect … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 05:42 PM |
| 0 | Average men never truly experience a women's love at its full extentI'd argue that smaller decisions are given the benefit of the doubt as well. When he chooses movies/restaurants/concerts there's less complaints. This is a very nice change when one is used to the other, as it makes you want to be creative and put thought into things. I know I've given up before when every little decision is scrutinized and poo-poo'd immediately. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 05:36 PM |
| 6 | Speaks for itselfWho keeps questioning you? You've been very honest the whole time and especially with yourself. What is there to gain from her starting a pointless fight? She's not being blue pilled about it. I don't see what point is trying to be made here. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/05/21 03:46 PM |
| 11 | Why do so many liberal feminist women discourage so many under 30 women from getting married and having kids in their 20s ?There’s more to life than that, so why not explore what’s out there? I think this mentality is pandoras box for a great many of us who kept on walking past the "more" looking for something that glittered like gold. I'm a millennial and I agree with your thoughts for myself. But if I wasn't who I was I'd be devastated by the life I could have had being more traditional and going after tried and true goals. I'm old enough to admit there was advice I should have taken and more conservative ways I c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 10:37 PM |
| 5 | If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates.See you're saying "isn't it on the man" implies that these men want relationships. Or that they need to get their feelings together so that they can be good partners. Whereas his assessment is equivalent to "I'm pretty sure theres enough alligators in that water not to go in at all." It's about leaving the game entirely because the rules are broken and a certain demo is clearly cheating. Men aren't victims because some of them complain. The smart ones are just assessing risk and stating their co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:50 PM |
| 1 | If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates.Yea I thought I was agreeing. But I don't think I expressed my thoughts well. Where did you think we disagreed? By "this" I meant women being upset about us caring about their n-count. They're insecure about it so instead of changing their behavior or coming to terms with it in a healthy way, it's become "offensive" and "misogynistic" for us to care about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:46 PM |
| 12 | If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates.This is just another in a long list of characteristics that our culture likes to act has nothing to do with the individual, and therefore the rest of us must put up with poor behavior and drama from those who were subject to their own actions. If you've slept with guys and are insecure about the imbalance in who got what they wanted out of that interaction, it is not the third parties fault for not wanting to be a part of the cleanup. Those of us with "privilege" in all of these scenarios are no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.If you pay for something you are very much so "entitled" to it. "Do math better" is a needless insult when YOU could be arguing in good faith. Or in other words...dont troll. You're better than that ;P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 02:54 PM |
| 3 | The bad-boy appealCorrect it's cheap thrills and instant gratification of your emotions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 01:55 PM |
| 4 | Porn use negatively affects men's sexual satisfaction in actual real-life sexHe's not even being rude to her let alone confrontational. And she's coming at him! Why? Cuz he's the evil sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 12:16 PM |
| 15 | The redpill is not accurately portrayed in this subThe name implies, through the matrix metaphor, that the purpose is to unplug from the blue-pill messaging of "just be yourself", "keep looking for the one", "you can't say that about women. It's offensive." You can insist that there's something insinuated about dating but the messaging is all about the men improving themselves simply for their sake. The problem is that improving oneself will make you more attractive, but the important part is detaching yourself from a female centric attitude. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 11:34 PM |
| 1 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Plus what's truly at stake here is fertility. I try and encourage people to live the life they want to live. If you're a party person live it up. If you're traditional that's great. But being a party person while you're young and then attempting to settle down and have a kid when 30 arrives is going to give you a few problems. Women's fertility window will be smaller. Their youth is fading and men don't want to be rushed into marriage and parenthood with someone who seems like their "only after … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 12:34 PM |
| 3 | The argument isn't about "Nice Guys", the argument is about whether or not decent men are getting laid.How did you get super red pilled on this half way through. Marriage being about commodities and the market. I thought you were arguing that we needed to be more blue pilled and "love is the answer" type people. Rather than being cold and calculating. Isn't that how this started? You were upset at people over thinking it. Not that people ultimately fail to be good partners. That's not a sign they weren't taking their partner seriously. If anything that sort of person under thinks all this. And al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 07:17 PM |
| 3 | The argument isn't about "Nice Guys", the argument is about whether or not decent men are getting laid.Me poking you aside, I think you could feel better about this if you realized that while these forums have allowed many to become exceedingly rational and cold about these interactions, most people are still slaves to their emotions and have a desire to not be outcast as a sociopath at the end of the day. Many of us are dealing with the fact that partnering in the past was either arranged marriage, or even further back in time, based on nothing but power. So if you meet a girl, maybe she does ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:17 PM |
| -1 | The argument isn't about "Nice Guys", the argument is about whether or not decent men are getting laid.Well I know I'm not a fan of moral policing. Quite distasteful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 05:19 PM |
| 1 | Why do girls brag about having simps?I also think it has to do with what the above poster said. I don't think traditional models felt at the top of their job. I don't know what I'm talking about but I assumed modeling was pretty tough, manipulative, and surrounded by more powerful people than the models. So the only fans girls are their own bosses and answer to no one if they put on a few or make an odd decision. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 09:37 PM |
| 8 | There is a power dynamic in heterosexual intercourse. Sex for women requires more physical AND EMOTIONAL vulnerability.I believe it's warranted and why this post isn't in our ppd women's interest. Essentially everything she just explained validates the RP men's arguments. It does take a submissive personality to be penetrated. So when men are being berated by their SO it will make it tougher to be dominant in a healthy way. When women strip men of masculinity, their dominant traits will be watered down and less appealing. When there is no loving respect for men, not in some undeserved royal kind of way but in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/21 12:30 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women, especially young women do want casual sex and they covertly chase it.The resentment comes from other aspects of male interaction with females. I know when I was younger I didn't care at all who a girl had been with. I thought it was wrong to be possessive of someone else's love. But then...the girls start confiding in you how terrible all of these guys have been to them. They're jerks and uncaring at best, and abusive & manipulative at worst. And after the 20th time you start side-eyeing them like, "I know Jeff told you he liked you last week. He's a good dude wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/21 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Are “blue pill” men open to being a breadwinner for a woman who prefers to adopt rather than bear children?I think he's got us here. I can't find any truth you're shielding yourself from here. The counter might be that it actually weakens the "cuck" label because, even though I'm not going to choose this path, it's objectively got some perks. A family is an investment and as long as you are capable it will reward you with quality moments and memories. I can insult you and say you aren't spreading your genes, and it's true, but the insult feels overly rude because your kid and family might be perfectl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Men seem to have higher standards than women due to the fact they have a overwhelming preference for younger womanWould you concede that this may not be a gendered issue in the sense that anyone attractive(mostly women) will be tempted to take the easy route and sleep around when the options arises and attempt to be petty and land the best mate you can? As it is similarly easy to become a drug addict or a lazy bum, it is easy to be superficial and slutty. So sure I'll pick on attractive people(mostly women) for this, but it becomes easier to empathize with. Doesn't mean you need to marry them or excuse thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 02:57 PM |
| 10 | Men are not entitled to sex as women are not entitled to commitmentThis sort of stuff eats away at the equality in the relationship for me. I've had to break up with girlfriends several times and the truth is certainly nowhere to be found. Because no matter what I say they try and salvage the relationship. Usually I'm arguing from their perspective. "You don't seem to enjoy who I am and what I do. We argue so much. Why do you want to be with someone you disagree with so much? I think you can do better for yourself." And then they cry and deny all our problems. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 02:39 PM |
| 1 | The projection of male desires onto women and the burden of pursuitProbably. I haven't met many men irl who are on that end of the spectrum. And I vent about this stuff so you'd think they'd commiserate. But I run into my friends white-knighting the most. They are the kinds of guys who dislike my heartless insights, but complain when women won't sleep with them or they ask me "how'd you manage to get a skinny gf?" So all I'm saying is, yes I agree with you. You can work on yourself and your ability to communicate and flirt with women. Learn how to be more fun i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 02:32 PM |
| 1 | The projection of male desires onto women and the burden of pursuitUltimately I agree with you. But that's black pilled. That guys who were born without the right feathers will never succeed to an acceptable level. Ultimately I buy into trp, but I acknowledge so many men need so much work. I have friends who roll over when women insult them or demand they do something. Guys who coo about how much they love their wife after she gives him snark in front of everyone. Men who let their children see how much their mother hurt them. These kinds of guys need work in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 02:21 PM |
| 5 | The projection of male desires onto women and the burden of pursuitYes but a young fertile wife is a valid criteria to have based on the fact that you are capable of producing multiple healthy children. If you're guy doesn't understand fashion or joke telling he still may be good at building a house or fixing a car. It's irrelevant criteria. You haven't vetted for the correct characteristics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 12:32 PM |
| 3 | Q4A: How do you treat your friends who are cheaters, if you have any?Right, crime happens at every moment somewhere throughout the world. Many times probably not that far away. If you ever sleep soundly it's while others are awake being tortured. So idk. Either create a desert and call it peace, or just keep saying, "So it goes..." | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/21 09:13 PM |
| 54 | Why is it more socially acceptable for women to want stereotypical men than vice versa?This will happen in all sorts of settings. On the reality TV show I watch, two contestants were pitted against one another. The ref said the taller one goes first. The guy asked the girl how tall she was as he said, "cuz I know you're taller" (paraphrase) she says "5'8" " and to save face & be funny he goes, "yea...I'm 5'7. Let's go with that." Later on in the episode, they're ragging on each other over their performance and the guy goes, "I can't believe this happened!" And she goes, "I can't b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/21 06:00 PM |
| 0 | Female Hypergamy is the most taboo phenomenon in American society, despite being empirically provenNo one in this thread off your OP has said women are evil for exhibiting hypergamy. I even think that by pushing the conversation into an emotionally upset state, you know you're going to get emotional comments back. And they will be easier to argue against because you get less thoughtful responses. The ones you have received thus far are plenty calm and respectful even. No need to paint this discussion in a light which suggests morality. We simply want to discuss hypergamy...and I'm seeing you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/21 04:24 PM |
| 1 | Feeling "lied to" is an extension of a horrible victim complexThat's all fine. I've never minded if women want to ignore me. No anger or ill will here over that. I'm simply poking at the things we are mocked for discussing here and in similar forums. I never needed my moms advice but if someone asks a question we should assume their a noob and properly explain why your mom isn't a quality source on this one. I don't like ideas being shut down. That's all. And the problem I've run against is not just that people want me to stop saying uncomfortable things. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:03 PM |
| 6 | Feeling "lied to" is an extension of a horrible victim complexWhy are you guys asking your mom's? Why are you asking women? Don't make them uncomfortable....OMG the men are talking amongst themselves! They can't be allowed to compare notes. Omg their methods make unaware women happy & content. We had better spread the word about their "manipulation"! Now they're starting to walk away from women?! I've felt this my whole life. Look if I'm bothering you, I'll just go over hear out of your space. But thats not enough. I was meant to stay and be submissive to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Why does the red pill receive so much hate on PPD?Read up on the Pareto Principle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle It may not be scientific law, but there are stronger examples than just this ppd one which will demonstrate that the idea has merit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Is there something wrong with fat girls?It has to do with red pill people in general. My blue pill friends accept anything. "My girl hits me. No biggie I can take it." "My girl insults me in front of friends. That's her humor." "You can't comment on a woman's weight! That's not a metric we judge by." So, its obviously wrong to ridicule and mock. I've been coming to terms with most if not all fat jokes being lazy and or mean. From the Simpsons to Seinfeld, the easiest and laziest jokes are fat jokes. The scene would almost always benef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/21 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Low-Sociosexuality men consider a woman choosing another guy as a reason to "next" - here's whyIll argue against you. I do think your argument is more realistic, but I wanted to add, a rarely discussed point. Men "perform" during sex. Mostly any women provides the same possibilities for sex, but a more athletic, more physically gifted man will be capable of performing in ways that aren't possible for all men. I think the opportunity to be compared to all the tall athletic athletes, who exercise daily and have more sex thus can last longer, isn't something many men want to have happen to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/21 01:14 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Red pill is just mostly scammers who are trying to take advantage of down on luck menOK then that's something I sorta agree with. Are we here in PPD operating as if the current iteration of trp sub matters? Because I LOVED that sub and I don't go there ever anymore. I would conced that currently it sucks...but I don't feel that that invalidates the golden age info. As well, unless you go back further than I do, I ALWAYS saw rollo as a Pua salesman. And that's not me bragging, I got the impression his books got people rolling and then you used the subreddit for the ECs opinions. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 11:48 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Red pill is just mostly scammers who are trying to take advantage of down on luck menI haven't followed the subreddit for a few years now. That is what I'll speak on because it is the only place I went to for trp content. The YouTube crossover for me is all mgtow. It's certainly shit now. If you're simply saying currently it's being used to sell stuff then fine. But 3-6 yes ago it was a bustling place of advice, angst, and debate. If you could handle bad words or someone making a sweeping generalization then you could glean some real insight every now and again. I think you make… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 09:09 PM |
| 15 | For men who feel lied to by society about women, can you give examples of things in popular culture you feel mislead you?This was a rational answer at some point in the last 30-40 yrs, but men have been begging the culture to be honest with them that at this point I do believe it becomes a bit of the famous gaslighting we're all hearing so much about. I agree on the interpersonal level this is people being polite and passing the responsibility on to someone else. And the asker is rude for being so obtuse not to know why, and asking someone else to comment on their inability. It's uncomfortable. But if everyone doe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/21 04:10 PM |
| 13 | About AWALT, The Cock Carousel and Your Gut feelingsThe first girl sounds like a straight "playing hard to get" mishap. You have to remember they care about the script. Avoid sending these," is everything ok?" Texts. I don't think you mentioned who was first to bring up getting a dog, but all that stuff, you can play along and be enthusiastic to a degree, but don't initiate these scenarios without some skill to back it up. Your personality reads like you might act very eager to pretend you MIGHT play the bf role. All of the "I don't want to rush … | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/17 09:08 PM |
| 4 | Woman on AskMen isn't attracted to her loving/doting beta provider husband, and is planning to kick his ass to the curb. Happy Thanksgiving.I believe I attempted to describe a situation where a wife agreed to marry a man she claims she wasn't physically attracted to and then a certain ways into said agreement, she decided she no longer could deal with that decision. I definitely think you're correct that had he possessed other redeeming qualities which outweighed his inadequacies she could have remained content. Ultimately this scenario is worthless because we don't possess the data points to properly judge it. However, the message … | /r/TheRedPill | 25/11/16 04:45 AM |
| 18 | Woman on AskMen isn't attracted to her loving/doting beta provider husband, and is planning to kick his ass to the curb. Happy Thanksgiving.The argument here is that a man would be able to rationalize his decision in the first place. He's not a superb physical specimen, it's likely that his wife isn't either. So he thought he could make a good relationship through other aspects of his character. He's not even surprised by her decision because hes aware of his inadequacy in the looks category. However he loved her anyway and thought a relationship could be based on more than looks. She showed that even though she loved him, even thou… | /r/TheRedPill | 24/11/16 03:51 PM |
| 4 | The N-Count - why care?True but it's also an issue that is representative of the entitlement many of us find distasteful in bourgeois culture. Essentially, many of us use the inherent validating effects of sexual intercourse to give meaning to our otherwise worthless lives. Similarly many women, simply ignore that men will definitely use them for cheap sex, and apply these experiences as "adventures" and "life experiences". Even if some people are capable of being emotionally honest with themselves and view these acts… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/16 07:24 PM |
| 6 | Woman refuses to date guy during college because he's 'not her type'. Messages him years later when she finds out he has a great job. Gets told she's not a gold digger.I agree that men, in their late teens & 20s, who couldn't land a peak SMV girl shouldn't complain. That's the SMV working as it should. And you're correctly pointing out that they're trying to assuage hurt feelings. The post should end with a comment that once a male reaches his peak SMV he should then access the peak SMV women who he rightly didn't have access to earlier. The point of a post like this is that you shouldn't end up with that girl just because you're both closing in on 30. Those p… | /r/TheRedPill | 13/05/16 04:41 PM |
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