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No they are not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:22 AM
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I am not talking about this in the context about paternal testing but talking about in context of culture. What I am saying the only women we can trust are women who share our political values about family structure. That's we why shouldn't shame people for having standards or preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 03:02 AM
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I am not trying to promote I am trying to attack it and it's followers. Many people hold the arguments from that book and still not know about that book per say since its a famous talking point about paternal uncertainty in tribal society.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:39 AM
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Well yes I agree society do need to start working on making better men. Get rid of this culture of emotion suppression and unfiltered anger. I don't believe there is any gatekeeping we both want life long partners and we need to make it easier to find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:38 AM
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Because they are focused on the behavior of women more than cultural and social values I suppose
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:32 AM
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It will gain popularity just like the ethical slut did back in it's day. What do you mean find another windmill? This sounds like you defend the book to me. You seem like the run of the mill sex positive feminist who cannot take criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:31 AM
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Yes the breakdown of monogamous relationship is concerning to me. Even father leaving their kids is concerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:18 AM
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How does paternity test control women, I don't advocate for mandatory paternity test. Trust is built through loyalty. A loyal women would fight for paternal certainty and monogamy. Those are the women I trust not the apathetic free choice women or the sex at dawn worshippers. Society does not want to produce better men as it is because they want to exploit women as much as possible. That's what they do best they exploit people as much. Control is means to exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 02:15 AM
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I am going to sound like feminist but here is the thing. Society can produce better men and can unlearn toxic masculine traits such as emotional suppression and unregulated anger. Society does need to make motherhood a better experience I agree with that. By creating more favorable romantic partners and making child rearing easier we can encourage women to value paternity certainty. I must admit I like how you are coming from a sociological perspective here as many people here do not What do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:53 AM
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I am not too sure how modern human dating works but I wish you too the best
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:46 AM
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What is it like dating a younger man?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:43 AM
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I understand that the mandatory paternity test is an ideal most men achieve but in my opinion it seems that it's not practical. But what we need to do is fight back against sex positivity culture. Their aim is to devalue sex, encourage women to have multiple sex partners, abolish the culture of biological father hood and monogamy as well. I don't need a paternity test if there is a subculture that actively fights against sex positivity. That's the solution we need. We need to ban books like sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:41 AM
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Because it's harder to find women who share your values in an alienated and atomized society. That's why we need to live in communities that share our values so we can find a partner who shares our values. Also for me personally the mandatory paternity test is no concern but rather the culture of sex positivity the indoctrinates women. Women are becoming more apathetic towards paternal certainty and biological father hood. They don't care about biological father hood. Of course not all biologica…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:29 AM
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Make it 25 bucks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/23 01:22 AM
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So what are you arguing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:27 PM
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You don't believe promiscuous women can do monogamy? But when I said the comments argued against pair bonding you said they and you were arguing against the OP post. But what I am saying is that you don't have to deny pair bonding to counter the post. So this makes me question your motives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:52 PM
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But did you eat grass?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:44 PM
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Which one in particular posts you think are insane
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:42 PM
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So you do admit it would be best to abolish monogamy and paternal certainty correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:40 PM
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But you said people should devalue sex and that sex is just and activity correct?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:32 PM
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That doesn't sound like a pair bonding to me. I found a definition of pair bonding from a quick Google search "In summary, pair bonding is best defined as a selective and enduring relationship between two non-kin adults that often coincides with a monogamous mating system and a pair-living social organization. "https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/pair-bonding#:~:text=In%20summary%2C%20pair%20bonding%20is,Behavior%20(Second%20Edition)%2C%202019 I actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:31 PM
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Yes but the thing is you are projecting your beliefs around sex and relationship to be how humans are supposed to be. To me it feels like you women have an agenda? You could have just said promiscuous women get married and never cheat end of story. But no you have to debunk pair bonding, judge people for valuing sex as only as romantic activity, etc... all this makes me question your intentions here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:25 PM
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But y'all not correcting it you are instead projecting your personal beliefs. You want to be promiscuous and poly than fine but why is your lifestyle and beliefs about sex the only correct one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:18 PM
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Red Pill men, what are your opinions on the book Sex and Dawn and articles that tend to romantize female promiscuouity and paternal uncertainty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:06 PM
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So do you want humans to go back to promiscuouity and abolish paternal certainty?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:02 PM
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The women and sex positive men in the comment sections are so weird. While I don't believe promiscuouity taints a women. I don't care for moralistic arguments such as these. But it's silly how these people go to the extra mile and claim that humans don't pair bond and trying to say humans should devalue sex. They also say women should lie about their body count too. Is this all these people can do? Why can't they just some men don't want to date promiscuous women and some men only sex as a roman…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 07:01 PM
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If sex were to be davlued like you want it to be then we would not be monogamous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:53 PM
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Then what's the problem of men not wanting to date promiscuous women? Why deny pair bonding and devalue sex to argue against. Why go the extra mile?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:52 PM
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I don't support the idea that promiscuous women are tainted either but to reduce monogamy as a choice is stupid. How humans mate is dependent on sociological and environmental factors. With that being said pair bonding is not dependent on woo-woo chemicals. They did experiment on Lemurs and Voles where they shut off the oxytocin and found out they still pair bonded. Humans can mate for life but we need to believe we can. If you encourage hook up culture and promiscuouity then of course you will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:51 PM
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It's not obsession to defend ones preference. When men mock women's preferences doesn't that sort of pressure women to date men outside of their preferences which only causes distress
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:45 PM
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But if sex is just an activity why make that sort of promise in the first place? Why do people restrict their sexual behavior with only each other is sex is meaningless?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:42 PM
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I did it's just you are not mature enough to understand
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:40 PM
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My argument is that the romantization of tribal society is problematic and stupid. It's not as simple as knowing about the past it's using the past and animal kingdom to modern day humans. This is called appeal to nature fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:40 PM
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You are acting like a child who has yet to grow up
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:37 PM
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You really are arguing in bad faith. I corrected your assumptions about me but you refuse to let go of the assumption which shows you argue in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:36 PM
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I am tired of arguing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:34 PM
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It's not a separate issue but how did the agreement of not having sex with others come to be if sex is not valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:33 PM
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How is rejecting someone shaming them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:32 PM
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Do you really have to argue against pair bonding?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:28 PM
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There is something wrong though, we don't conform to their societal standards of dating and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:27 PM
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It shows that women have a privalage over men duh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:25 PM
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It essentially pushes for the abolishment of paternal certainty in our culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:25 PM
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If sex is just an activity then what's wrong with cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:08 PM
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Women have the privilege of knowing it's her child immediately compared to a man today and especially in the past before genetic testing was a thing? The past informs the present. The only reason why paternity testing exist is because men don't know if it's really his child
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:06 PM
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You are arguing in bad faith I can tell. People use social justice language to describe paternal uncertainty. People do tend to romantize the egalitarian nature of tribal society. Your sudden jump to conclusion about me not liking people who study history tells me you are suspicious. It's not just history people tend to romantize sexual behavior of Bonobos and matriarchy of hyenas when in reality Bonobos don't have more sex than chimpanzees and are still aggressive and fight quiet often and hyen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 06:04 PM
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I understand where you coming from
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:53 PM
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In the past they couldn't, he was talking about the past. But even today women have the benefit of knowing it's her child faster than men do. Paternity test takes time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:39 PM
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There is someone in the comments said paternity tests are useless I have to find their comment. Sex at Dawn and articles about tribal societies tend to romantize paternal uncertainty and female promiscuouity as empowering
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:38 PM
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By calling paternal testing pointless and having aggressive attitude towards paternity testing is dog whistling to abolish the concept. Especially when they romanticize paternal uncertainty in tribal society which shows me that they want our society to imitate those societies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 05:14 AM
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Not explicitly but I know a dog whistle when I hear it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:55 AM
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Only if it's court issues, you cannot simply go out and get it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:09 AM
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My point is destroying this romantization of paternal uncertainty and encourage women to care about paternal certainty the same way men do. Then we don't need to have discussion on mandatory testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:08 AM
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Because in tribal society paternity was not a thing a women didn't know who fathered her child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:03 AM
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If we can't get paternity test we ought to have freedom to leave our partners right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:02 AM
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Because I have a theory that women in this sub support paternal certainty and I am testing that theory out. If you scratch a person enough you see their true colors
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:01 AM
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Yeah but you can still make it more affordable isn't that what companies do, try to make products more affordable to best competition? I do not support mandatory paternity testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:59 AM
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Sex at Dawn I mean is a book that romanticizes paternal uncertainty in tribal societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:57 AM
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How is that sensible shouldn't people have easier access to paternity testing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:56 AM
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I don't support mandatory paternity testing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:54 AM
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Women don't understand that books like sex at dawn are indoctrinating women and men alike. There is romantization of paternal uncertainty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:53 AM
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https://www.ibdna.com/paternity-testing-ban-upheld-in-france/#:~:text=Foreign%20Paternity%20Testing%20Labs&text=While%20personal%20paternity%20testing%20is,official%20paternity%20tests%20aren't It is legal only in context of court order. What's wrong it making it cheaper and affordable. Seems like gatekeeping to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:52 AM
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It's not controlling how you feel it's offering a different perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:50 AM
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For the women who are against this mandatory testing why are you so emotional about paternity test in general? I don't support mandatory testing like OP does.I see you all calling it pointless which makes me curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:48 AM
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Why can't people understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:44 AM
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So, because you dont trust your partner, everyone should be getting tests? That's not all what he was saying, he is simply pointing to the fact men cannot know for certain unlike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:43 AM
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This isn't about ones ability to get paternity test, this about how even if we ask for paternity test you women tend to believe oh he doesn't trust me and thinks I am bad person. You are internalizing things and taking to heart while we got want to certainty
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:42 AM
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They can but it should be affordable. Also France has banned paternity test if I remember correctly, what makes us think this won't spread to other countries
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:39 AM
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I'd be cool with that, women not being in danger sounds awesome to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:38 AM
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I agree with you but the thing is women don't understand why men have fears around paternal certainty even if explained. They don't want to have these discussions which is weird to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:37 AM
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Generally what makes a woman attractive to me is if I can see myself in her. She would have similar interests as me, share same values as me, and is not afraid of being weird. Empathy is also an important trait that I find as a green flag
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 04:53 PM
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I would not object to it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 02:59 AM
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I am just making a joke lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 11:32 PM
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Yeah of course it's a bad word
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:32 PM
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Yeah I know what postmodernism is, it's the rejection of grand narratives in favor for subjectivism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 10:31 PM
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I am not trying to argue I am just pointing how aggressively you responded which shows you have strong feelings about this topic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:13 PM
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Vegetarian Animal lovers unite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:04 PM
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You didn't say it happened to me you worded in your sentence like a hypothetical. No it has not happened to me to answer your question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 05:03 PM
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I would decline and leave her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:35 PM
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I have never heard their aversion to bi men though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:19 PM
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Someone sounds aggressive today
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:46 PM
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I think women are more indoctrinated into postmodernism and nonconformity in my opinion than men in my opinion. That is because postmodernism speaks to women issues while more conservative groups speak to mens issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:45 PM
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It's not that women shouldn't have sex on first date it's more like we want to avoid women who have sex on first date especially when we are young. It's just not our lifestyle you know. Yes there men who are hypocrites but not all men are like that though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:43 PM
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The reason why marriages is not because of lack of maturity but rather from sociological factors that liberals like you refuse to acknowledge. You posit a reductionist error. While I acknowledge the brain does not full develop until 25 that doesn't mean young adults are incapable of logical reasoning skills, emotional regulation skills, communication skills, conflict resolution skills, and ability to love another human being. In palentology theory there this outdated therory that the South Ameri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:40 PM
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Yeah I agree with this
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:08 PM
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It actually is though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:04 PM
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Don't these same people say it's none of you business when we talk about how we don't want to date promiscuous women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:18 AM
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What if it can be improved why not strive for something better though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:16 AM
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Pessemistic Nihilistic Postmodernism Liberalism Sex Positivity Hook Up culture Lacks imagination and creativity Stoic Social media girl Commitment issues Genetic determinism Archosaur Fan girl ( I hate archosaurs fanboys with passion) Tattoos Obsessed with wanting male friends Non conformist for sake of nonconformity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:15 AM
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Animal lovers unite
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:07 AM
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I have spammed evidence countless times here and don't have energy to find these articles but you can find evidence yourself by searching up environmental factors shaping human behavior. I found this by a quick Google search https://www.mpg.de/16253036/0112-evan-where-you-live-shapes-how-you-behave-150495-x
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:05 AM
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I actually agree with everything you said but from the wife material perspective instead of the economic perspective. I am a romantic so I don't care about the finances too much
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 08:00 AM
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I disagree a women who as a strong desire for commitment is a positive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:58 AM
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I was going to say I agree from title alone but then your post just doesn't do it for me
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:55 AM
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Humans don't have an inate nature that's bullshit. Our behaviors are mainly shaped by environment which is is even true in animals as well. There some things that may seem innate such as our immune system and respiratory system but all these aspects are prone to change as we can see from evolution. Something as complex as how we conduct romantic relationships is definitely not innateand is shaped by cultural and economic factors. Liberals tend to appeal to nature and ancient humans to defend the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:52 AM
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Yeah but these dogmatist don't care they want people to conform to their hedonistic dating culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:46 AM
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Sounds like inate human nature argument perpetuated by liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:41 AM
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Good for you do what you want and let us avoid promiscuous women in peace mate ok
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:39 AM
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Hoes are created not born, no one has inate hoe waiting to be blossomed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:38 AM
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The way you describe it you want dating to be messy and inefficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:36 AM
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That is just liberal propaganda though
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 07:34 AM
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Bruh feminist talk about dating from political perspective too lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 04:40 AM
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Sounds like you are sensitive liberal who can't take criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 03:37 AM
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I know you don't believe me but if you met me you will understand me. No liberals only acknowledge the environment has factors relating to the causes they care about. But when it comes to sexual behavior and mental health liberals circlejerk around genetic determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 02:09 AM
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This is a silly argument because it fails to take account sociological factors. This is what liberals do is that they argue that human behavior as it is is product of nature and evolution when in reality that is not the case. FOMO is most certainly amplified due to consumerist culture. Yes humans all have FOMO but it's amplitude is dependent on by external factors. I am a virgin dude and if I were to get into relationship I am highly confident I won't be feeling like FOMO to the extreme because …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:49 AM
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Idk the sound of the paragraph urks me which may be my biased. I guess you are right the criticism is valid but how they deliver it sounds like millennials writing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 10:10 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:22 PM
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This is just to deflect any criticism of the sex work industry
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 09:19 PM
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I never heard that word growing up and my friends don't talk like you are just entitled or I am not obligated to do x. We actually talked like human beings when I was growing up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 08:46 PM
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Because it gives our preferences more weight to them I suppose. Like if our preferences are that important than more people would be conforming to meet our prefrences
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:52 PM
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Does this kind of thing happen with friends with benefit relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:51 PM
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Why are women so obsessed with wanting to be friends with men seems like a red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:48 PM
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I don't argue from a moral perspective but rather sociological and selfish perspective but I would guess arguing from moral perspective sounds more grandiose than a simple life style perspective. It gives our preferences more meaning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 06:20 PM
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Finally someone who knows what I am talking about. They want to change our society into those ones because they believe paternal uncertainty is a sign of women liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 02:57 AM
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I will offer you a my perspective on this matter as I look at this from a sociological point of view rather than a liberal or naturalistic point of view. I do not believe promiscuouity to be natural at all. Human mating behavior is shaped by cultural and economic factors. In tribal society women tend to have multiple partners because they wanted labor from men to help raise the kids. Some tribes believed all the lovers of a women contributed to the baby so they all felt they had to take care of …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/23 01:30 AM
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What are you? A female pimp of some sorts?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:20 PM
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If women valued paternity certainty the same way men do them there wouldn't be need for paternity testing. But lately women have become either apathetic to the idea or out right want to abolish it. I have read articles about tribal societies and the author often romanticizes their cultural norm of not knowing the biological father. I have talked people who worship books like sex at dawn and belief monogamy will go extinct in post patriarchal society. I think with all this in mind it's valid to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 11:19 PM
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Tbh no 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 10:03 PM
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Ever heard of false negatives
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:38 PM
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Yeah his example falls flat so hard that it isn't even funny. Maybe a little
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:37 PM
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Social Democracy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 09:26 PM
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I think hive mind is a buzzword that is overused. Humans are social animals we will confirm to one ideology over the other as we have shared experiences .
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:48 PM
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Where do they argue that already?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:35 PM
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I am curious as to why it isn't talked about from a sociological perspective. Isn't feminism known to look at social phenomena from sociological perspective?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:34 PM
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They are not stupid, they parasites hijacking movements and ideologies. They know exactly what they are doing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 04:09 PM
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They seem to be pretty indifferent about it in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:52 PM
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It would be about women having autonomy to sleep with who ever she wants without moral restrain
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:09 AM
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Has anyone seen Napoltand if so do you think it has important lesson on relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:31 AM
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Does it frame her cheating as empowering?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:27 AM
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Yeah there are both sides arguing for it but the "progressive" argument is becoming popular in my opinion while the red pill one is dying off I think
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:23 AM
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Who is lady Chatterley?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:19 AM
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Is anyone else waiting for feminist to argue cheating is empowering?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 06:14 AM
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I think counter push would be a nice thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:43 AM
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What ever my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:27 AM
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Yeah that is what I mean and that is the problem. Women are pressured to do sex work because of financial issues. Which I understand sex positives downplay or ignore entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:53 PM
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Are you denying there is pressure that supports promiscuouity and sex work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 09:23 PM
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Number 2 and 3 aren't as common but there is propaganda to pressure women into that life style in my opinion. And I want to argue against this propaganda
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:42 PM
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As a man I can offer you my perspective on the matter. I am not really redpill or hard core tradcon but I suppose I have traditional romantic values so I can maybe offer a slightly different perspective. Yes I do want to feel important and valued in a relationship as a man but I also believe women also have this same feeling. We both want to feel important to each other. We don't want single women to feel miserable but we ought to expect them to feel somewhat lonely without a romantic partner. L…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 08:20 PM
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If you only cared about you and your partner than you wouldn't be in this sub which is a debate sub about dating culture. I am pointing out the hypocrisy of women like that. You just seem to be arguing in bad faith which makes me think you are a cheater yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:46 PM
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So are we not allowed to call out cheaters then? I think if you are arguing this you might be a cheater yourself looking for validation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:32 PM
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I guess we are not allowed to care about others anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:19 PM
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The issue is with other women who post trap pics while being in a relationship where they would not be comfortable with their men following thirst traps online
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 06:16 PM
2

That's the root of the argument though if you guys don't like your men following women posting thirst traps than you shouldn't be posting thirst traps yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:43 PM
5

I doubt that since women do post thirst trap pics and it's becoming normalized. In that case y'all should be ok with us men following other women posting thirst traps online.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:25 PM
5

Not all cases are unwanted there are women desperate for male attention
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:14 PM
1

JDwhiz responded to you perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:30 AM
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We are talking about mens prefrence, boundaries, or insecurities. But I think it's worth exploring why women feel the need to seek male validation in a monogamous relationship? What are the cultural factors influencing these behavior and attitude in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:41 PM
3

Wait what is wrong with talking about standards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:37 PM
4

But it's important to ask why does she need to do that to feel sexy why does she need the sexual attention of horny men on Internet to feel sexy when she already has a boyfriend? But ignoring the question for now, men are called insecure for wanting to break up with these women or not wanting to date these women. But I agree with you that boundaries need to be communicated and we should not control the behaviors of others
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:26 PM
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This the best answer here so far I agree with 100%. Like if you don't like partner posting thirst pics then break up with her and find a more compatible partner
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:16 PM
6

You are expecting jellyfish to solve math problems it just won't happen here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 08:14 PM
1

I am pretty sure trad women do have kinks not sure where OP got their idea from
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:30 PM
1

I can speak for all traditional men and women but when I say traditional I guess I mean it differently than most. If I were to give my ideology a name it would be something like principally romantic. I am ok with egalitarian relationship model where I would also take part in domestic labor. But I would want a wife who doesn't have sex outside a serious romantic relationship like me. I would want my partner to be traditionally feminine like wearing skirts and heels. Also we should both want to ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 07:28 PM
1

That's why we should be more specific than traditions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 06:39 PM
3

People regardless of gender or sexual orientation should stick to someone closer to their age
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:26 PM
6

I am principally romantic so I would prefer love than settling or forcing woman to love. But I do have a love potion I bought from a Wizard though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:21 PM
2

Its good you have optimism as bunch of people are unfortunately pessemistic. But you are right though the world will indeed change for the better. We might not live to see it but we will live to see the process of it at least
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 05:06 PM
1

Couldn't she do the same thing with count
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:38 PM
1

I appreciate this long written response as it shows you are thinking deeply about this topic. As much as I don't like social pressures that go against my value I don't look at this from a liberal perspective which focuses on free choice without judgment. I look at it from a sociological perspective in which capitalism must be taken into account to explain current dating phenomena. The traditional romantic courting culture was never fully actualizes in the past as people claim. Yes women were exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 06:37 AM
1

Can you take in control and find ways to heal on those conditions. I have OCD and ADHD like symptoms so I think I can relate to your struggles
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 04:49 AM
4

Why is asking for body count more importantly than if they had casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:54 AM
1

Oh ok that's what you meant my bed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:50 AM
1

I don't mean to get too personal but do you mean you have a condition that shortens life span?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:45 AM
2

You are ment to get old you are a human after all or are you a mayfly?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:34 AM
1

I am glad you are ok but wdym you are not supposed to reach 50 or 60
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:30 AM
1

You are man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:28 AM
1

The one says women hit the wall. I am being genuine are you feeling ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:27 AM
1

One I am not basing my perception of women from the Internet. The person who called the women a Taliban member was a man. Two I am against social pressures to confirm into liberal dating norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:26 AM
1

But you said you have multiple boyfriends so I thought you might be poly lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:24 AM
1

Don't use their stupidity as excuse to go down this path lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:19 AM
2

Are you polyamorous?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:18 AM
2

I am happy for you man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:17 AM
5

I was just giving you an example to clarify my point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:04 AM
0

People do base their ideas on social and peer pressure but I think from your condescending response you benefit from such pressure and want to maintain such pressure in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 03:01 AM
1

Yeah that's my personal impression at least in online spaces. When young couples post in relationship advice the first thing people comment saying the problem is that you are young so break and enjoy life over silly little problem. There was a post here asking women what would their ideal dating life be like and when women said their ideal would be marry her highschool sweet and love together forever she was called a Taliban. There as been reports of men experienceing post coital dysphoria which…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:31 AM
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I think you make good points but you will have to factor in age as well right. Like a 50 year old with body count of 10 is not same as a 18 year old with body count of ten
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:25 AM
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People are pressured to follow the liberal path of romantic relationship. A women was called a Taliban by a purplepill user here for wanting to marry highschool sweetheart.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:23 AM
1

I am not repulsed by 30 year old women, I am not sure why men say shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 02:21 AM
-2

Why do men want to settle down quicker as opposed to women? Settle down do you mean with kids or just be in a serious relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:31 AM
1

I don't prefer staying home per say I just prefer activities that isn't drinking, partying, clubbing, casual dating, and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:30 AM
1

I understand that what you mean as I wanted to be wild life biologist but ended up working in med tech instead. I was utterly heartbroken and felt I lost my identity as animal lover. But the Pixar movie SOUL had a deep message about career and purpose. I think we need to change society to make socially needed labor more manageable and pleasant
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:28 AM
-6

What if people don't want to be single and enjoy their current relationship. Do they need to break up so they can just feel single?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:25 AM
2

Are you saying you were just adding to the list of what OP posted?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:24 AM
2

What are homebodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:22 AM
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I don't care about most women or what ever since people say contradictory things about that all the time I hear other women say most girls have casual sex so deal with it. But I criticize hook up culture from a sociological perspective instead of a moral and psychological perspective that most red pillers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:21 AM
1

I am going to go off tangent and talk about the comment section here for a second. I think the people here are biased liberals who project their social narrative of lost 20 year olds needing social variety and find their place in life before partaking in relationship. Nothing immoral about this but projecting this as how everyone is and how things should be is incorrect. As I mentioned earlier my friends defy this narrative. I think people should have the freedom to follow other narratives than …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:15 AM
3

This is one the best response here. My friend who was lost in freshmen year of college met his serious gf in the first three weeks of college in 2018 and still are together. Not to mention she took on a difficult major while he is on gradechool doing intense work. My other friend already knew what he wanted to do after graduation and took the steps to reach that goal but also got into his first romantic relationship around 2020 and they are still together. I genuinely think they are going to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:12 AM
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My counter arguments is that not everyone wants to have fun like you said. Not everyone finds dating fun. Some people find relationships more fun than dating. Some people don't like clubbing, traveling, and partying. Why aren't we talked about in these kinds of discussions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:08 AM
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Yeah sure some people but not everyone is like that and that should be ok. Not everyone is this lost soul looking to find their identity or calling. We are social animals at the end of the they, we don't need to be alone if we don't. I have always lived with either parents or friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:04 AM
3

Spoken like a genuine liberal
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 01:00 AM
2

You take up a job to contribute to society and we often need to take jobs society needs over our preferences. It's good to find job that we have some interest in I don't think I would be contributing to society as astronomer compared to software engineer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:57 AM
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It depends what we define traditional, when I use that word I mean women who don't engage in hook up culture and living hedonistic life style. No hedonism and asceticism are not the only way to live life, eudaimonia exists. I am not sure I actually want to call myself traditional I wish there was an ideology that captures my belief. I am going off tangents but the kind of women I want would have a job is what I am saying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:54 AM
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I won't use the word low value women but rather compatible instead. Some of the traits I agree while others I don't
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:49 AM
6

The fashion industry is shit though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:47 AM
0

A traditional women has all those traits and then some
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:46 AM
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It's just that we don't want to date who do not have, same values as us. Yes I admit that I don't like career minded but that's because I am not career minded myself. I believe our hobbies and interpersonal relationships define us not our work. So I do expect her to have a job but I want her do have passionate hobbies. I don't like liberalism because I think it looks at the world incorrectly and comes up with wrong conclusions. I would hope my partner would be educated on somethings and maybe te…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:44 AM
3

I share the same sentiment as you do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:26 AM
0

I disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:07 AM
3

What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/23 12:07 AM
5

Yeah you do make some valid points a combination of both makes better sense to me honestly
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 09:48 PM
2

Yeah I see your point know and I agree self awareness is important.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:46 PM
6

You are the only one saying this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:44 PM
1

Bro welcome to reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:43 PM
2

What do you mean by self awareness here?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:41 PM
3

Yeah you are correct here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 08:01 PM
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Yeah I completely agree with you. Men who care about this shouldn't overlook this when getting into relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:52 PM
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Don't mistake what I said for me not caring about partners past. I do care about the past but in terms of body count. It's just the hypocrits don't make sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:50 PM
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I am not sure what you are saying in your first paragraph. Probably but the think is her ideology is what's really important and how she views romance and sex. From what I heard men can tell if a women is distant during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:47 PM
1

Not by itself we don't know the women in question and what her relationship was like though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:23 PM
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Why do men care about body count? Wouldn't history of casual sex be more accurate than body count. For me idc if she had sex in committed romantic relationship but I don't want to date women who had casual sex and supports hook up culture. I never heard of body count till I found myself in this sub lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 07:17 PM
2

I wholeheartedly agree
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 06:59 PM
2

Nice! "Together we shall devour the Gods" if you know you know
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:58 PM
2

I am the first
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:28 PM
1

As a men who did not grew up in church but values sex as romantic activity exclusively I have never experience this so called slut shaming nor did I know what casual sex was until college. I asked some Christian girls if their church slut shamed them and they said no but they believe sex is exclusively romantic. My male friend says the church he attends with family only spoke about technology and stocks lol. Contrary to popular beliefs I don't think slut shaming causes people to couple sex and r…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 05:28 PM
2

For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:55 PM
1

You might have done something to trigger him though. People don't get angry for no reason at all. It might have triggered a trauma or something similar. People have right to feel angry. The anger is not what disturbs it's the behavior. They can either raise their voice and act violent or communicate that you made them angry and they need break. You may not intentionally made them angry but it still triggered emotions with them though.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:54 PM
3

I apologize for excusing you for supporting cheating, it's just I have experienced talking to wierd people on reddit. I am glad I was able to offer you another perspective but I also understand I was cruel to you. I hope you are doing better EST. 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 04:06 AM
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I am pointing out that the reason you don't like the word does not make sense by giving you an example with the trust scenerio which you said you hate the person and not the word. This can be applied to loyalty as well where one guy says he is loyal but isn't which most people wouldn't like the guy but still like the word loyal. I am sorry you have been cheated on it sucks you had to go through that. I think people cheat is because of culture not genes or evolution like most people claim. A word…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:18 AM
1

Thank you for sharing these stories about women experiencing loneliness as it makes me more empathetic to their plight. But we must address the epidemic of lonliness
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 03:01 AM
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I am not heated I am just pointing out that you are dog whistling. I have met women like you who implicitly support cheating by saying weird things. Even you admitted that you have not seen this on reddit which tells me you spun some weird thoughts experiment and projecting it to this discussion. I offered you counter example with trust example in which you admitted you would hate the word trust. So with all this to taken account I conclude that you support cheating one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:46 AM
3

I think that's more applicable to sex positive women than women in general
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:42 AM
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You are just coping out in my opinion. So if you saw a hotter guy you would leave your average looking boyfriend whom you shared intimate moments with. It doesn't seem likely so. So this is why I think you are peddling to normalize cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:30 AM
1

Then why not hate those people instead of the word loyalty itself. If people say you can trust trust them but they tell others your secret do you suddenly not like the word trust?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:26 AM
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That's what a cheater would say. Cheaters advocate for cheating in public space by being implicit rather than explicit. When you say you don't likethe word loyal youred flags pop up immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:22 AM
1

This further makes me think you are just dog whistling. I have met people like you on reddit who are weird about cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:19 AM
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No I am saying that you are a wannabe cheater that is just dog whistling here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:17 AM
1

I think she is a cheating wannabe that is dog whistling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:15 AM
1

Where is it being misused
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:15 AM
2

"wannabe cheater alert" the dog whistle is clear as day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:12 AM
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Because having the same values regarding to sex is important to sexuality. If I am with someone who has engaged in hook up culture and separates sex from love that would make me sad because I value sex to be exclusively romantic like kissing is. The other aspect is that hook up culture narrative contradicts traditional romantic courtship culture narrative which I grew attach to when growing up. So if I am dating a women who had casual sex it feels like I dating the grave of tradition courtship c…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/23 02:03 AM
0

What I mean is I dont what are these subset of women and what are they exactly spitting?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 11:00 PM
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I am not saying it's the only published work but even if their historical records are accurate they still have a narrative they want to push for in my opinion. Many people cute works like this to predict that in post patriarchal society monogamy will go extinct and say this is how humans supposed to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:59 PM
2

What if the gender was referred, would you say the same thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:54 PM
1

So would you say the problem is violent retaliation to rejection rather than venting about being alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:51 PM
1

When you mean anthropologist and evolutionary biologist doing work are you talking about works like sex at dawn?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:37 PM
1

Yeah the honestly especially when you read about some of their ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:29 PM
2

I think OP is talking about women like you in his post if I am being honest. If you don't care about a partner's sexual past then you do you but I don't think it's fair of you to judge other person standards and preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:27 PM
0

What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:24 PM
3

There are some situations where we should not support a man like when he cheated on his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 10:13 PM
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I am 24 so I guess the oldest age of women I would want to marry is like 28 or 29. I generally don't want to have huge age gap between us honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:36 PM
1

I hope things workout well for you two
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 05:35 PM
1

I do think we need to talk about child rearing as that is an important aspect of life in these subs. We ought to focus on how we can make child rearing easier. It takes a village to raise a child
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:55 PM
2

Even though in this sub I make it seem sex positivity my main enemy, my real enemy is nihlism .
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:53 PM
3

Preach
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:51 PM
1

Exactly but people seem to equate insecurities with maladaptive behaviors which if true then everyone will have maladaptive behaviors that actively harms the well being of others. Instead of stigmatizing insecurities and suppressing our negative emotions we ought to show empathy and compassion to others and learn to regulate and process our uncomfortable emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:29 PM
1

Women started being sex positive because of indoctrination. Also men are indoctrinated into sex positivity not just women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:40 AM
1

Women weren't always sex positive though, there is no proof that's who they are either. I have faith things can change
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:27 AM
3

Then our enemy is sex positivity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 04:04 AM
2

I don't buy what you said at all, I think traditional men and traditional women want the same thing. Traditional men and sex positive women want different things
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:54 AM
1

About whether the reintroduction of jaguars in north America will be beneficial or harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:43 AM
4

You have the best opinion here than most women I talked to on this sub. The stigmatation of insecurities in both male and female is terrible and causes more harm than good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:42 AM
1

I think men and women should work together to find solutions to our dating problem instead of blaming one gender over the other. I know no matter what we do there will be bad faith actors but we just have to look best them and have productive discussions. Honestly life sucks but at least we should try to work together to make it better 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:32 AM
2

I think men and women should work together to find solutions to our dating problem instead of blaming one gender over the other. I know no matter what we do there will be bad faith actors but we just have to look best them and have productive discussions. Honestly life sucks but at least we should try to work together to make it better 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:32 AM
1

How did you meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 03:12 AM
1

This sounds great honestly, I wish I can meet these women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:59 AM
1

How are they different from the women on podcast and tiktok
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 02:32 AM
1

It's just people are scared that outliers mean the end of norms. It doesn't help there are theories out there that maintain that social norms will disappear all together. Mainly postmodern and queer theory have this idea. We just have to educate people that outliers doesn't actually disapprove social norms. But all together we need to look at things from a sociological perspective as opposed to individualistic perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:08 AM
3

Exactly so women entering in the work force won't make them gender fluid or masculine. Only propaganda does this not equality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/23 12:01 AM
0

Who says they will vote, I personally won't vote
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 11:31 PM
1

Wdym?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 08:08 PM
2

Why not just abolish hook up culture all together
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:11 PM
3

This well said, I noticed people on reddit are grouping anyone that seems right leaning as full blown right wingers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 05:06 PM
4

Not all conservatives are fighting against abortions, some do support it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:54 PM
3

You make some valid points too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:53 PM
5

There was an AITAH post about women being mad at her BF for voting Republican. But the issue is that the comments made the bf like some evil dude for just voting as they believe one person voting is going to change something. As if the vote represented their entire political view
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:47 PM
4

Lmao I needed to hear this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 06:12 AM
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I think the pick me girl since women get more matches and dates than guys I think
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 04:17 AM
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People on reddit are brain dead ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 03:26 AM
2

Yeah I would consider myself as a feminist but not as liberal feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 02:03 AM
2

I wish I had a gf to celebrate thanks giving lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 01:28 AM
3

Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:34 AM
3

What is the subreddit where you can ask for what subreddit to go to?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/23 12:23 AM
4

I have this same opinion, I support most tenents of feminism from liberation from patriarchical violence to having ability to enter the work force. But I am against sex positive liberal feminism though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:24 PM
3

They are the worst kind lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 06:09 PM
1

Only one part of it but not the entirety of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:46 AM
1

That would specifically about spicing sex life not the relationship itself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 05:34 AM
1

Wait till people try to defend flirting back though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 04:15 AM
1

They going normalize flirting with outsiders in monogamous relationships aren't they. They comment shows proof of this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:55 AM
1

Wdym I am curious now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:52 AM
1

Then what spices marriage up then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:51 AM
2

Yeah OP you want to avoid women like her, kindness and softness from a romantic partner is important so as loyalty. Remember cheating girls will take advantage of your lack of experience, you will be a target for them so do your best to avoid them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 03:50 AM
11

I was ready for commitment when I was in my early 20's and still am right now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 02:03 AM
1

Most of the people don't really have a good definition of romance that distiguishes it from friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:20 PM
3

I have a question for you then. How can a fling be considered a romantic relationship compared to a long term romantic relationship. Life long relationships tend to have deeper connections and intimacy compared to either a fling or friends with benefits yet flings are considered romantic?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 07:19 PM
3

I understand and I do not mean to diss women who do sex work but I wouldn't be comfortable dating them for the reasons I mentioned and more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 05:51 AM
1

Liberalism isn't progressive values it's a specific way to look at the world through metaphysical lense. It's not just mental toll but also physiological toll as well from STD. There is so much danger for doing sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 03:57 AM
4

That's why I loath sex positivity and liberals because they ignore social consequences of choice and the social conditions in which those choices are made.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:17 AM
4

Yeah I wouldn't date a sex worker not because I think she is impure but because she literally has to separate sex from love which could affect our sex and romantic life. Not to mention the dangers involved with sex work could also affect me like STD or hyper aggressive Johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 02:11 AM
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That is not my argument at all you are just strawmaning me. I could tell you are not taking this serious because of the constant knee jerk reaction, strawmaning, and lack of engaging with the content of my arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:52 AM
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I see you have not answered my question, you just seem very volatile to this discussion. I said holistic approach not mindfulness. I have clinical diagnosed depression and was on antidepressants for a while but it didn't work and made me sick and caused bad head aches. I tried multiple types of drugs as well but it didn't work. I took Prozac, Zoloft, Cymbolta, and some other SSRI pill I forgot. The holistic model did so much better for me than a pill could. I am not the only one I met plenty of …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:38 AM
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Independent has a point though
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:28 AM
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You are definitely arguing in bad faith here. They don't say exercise cures depression by yourself but it's definitely helpful. My old therapist also agrees with holistic model of treating depression. There are books out there that also advocate holistic model written by professionals. Do you work for pharmaceutical company if so it would make sense for you to act like this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:17 AM
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Antidepressants work via “different mechanisms,” including via “placebo” or “in a clinically relevant way,” and “each is not equally effective” for all persons. In our data set, commenters acknowledged the placebo response as a mechanism of effect, but ruled it out as accounting for all instances of positive responses to antidepressants. This discursive move not only creates space for possibilities but also raises questions. For example, given that there is no physical test for determining the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 01:01 AM
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You still haven't shown me where the article said that. You are just strawmaning at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:52 AM
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Where does this article say all depressed people in the whole world are under placebo effect? I am pretty sure you are arguing in bad faith I have talked to you before and you did same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:30 AM
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Hi Back from exile I am Front from exile
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:05 AM
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I would also dump her because of her hoe phase lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:55 PM
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8649826/#:~:text=Antidepressants%20Are%2C%20At%20Best%2C%20Only%20Modestly%20Effective&text=From%20a%20more%20recent%20assessment,their%20clinical%20significance%20is%20minimal. A long-standing concern about antidepressants is that claims of their effectiveness are overblown. For example, in a review of research studies, Moncrieff (2007) concluded that there is no empirical evidence that antidepressants have a clinically significant effect and that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:51 PM
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I understand women need money but this culture of commodification of women needs to stop. Onlyfans needs to be deleted from existence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 11:49 PM
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Yeah there was a recent study disproving that myth
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 10:55 PM
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https://nature-mentor.com/environment-animal-behavior/#:~:text=Environment%20affects%20animal%20behavior%20by,compared%20to%20an%20urban%20environment. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2022.893453/full https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00265-022-03240-3 https://theconversation.com/climate-change-is-altering-animal-brains-and-behavior-a-neuroscientist-explains-how-215035 These are various articles discussed how environment influences the behaviors of animals
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 06:04 PM
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I can give my personal opinion. They kind of women we tend to avoid or talk about are the sex positive women. The alternative women we prefer is really just a women who isn't sex positive. I don't mind egalitarian relationship personally it's really just the ideology of sex that's important when it comes to romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:51 PM
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I don't buy the whole it's both nature and nurture argument, I believe it's a cop out from exploring sociological factors. I believe nurture has bigger influence on shaping human behavior. Even in animals external factors seems to have greater influence on their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 05:03 PM
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Only when specific to their cause they acknowledge societal forces. But it comes to things such as mental health and hook up culture they think it's genetics and symptom of free choice alone. Trust me I tried engaging in good faith discussions with them around these topics and just refuse to understand the content of my argument I am presenting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 03:48 PM
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I whole heardly agree that men should adhere to the social contracts they expect from women. I also theorise that people who share same values tend to move faster in their relationship and also easier to trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:20 AM
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They should be if they are traditionally minded
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/23 12:13 AM
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It's more than just abstaining from hook up culture, it is also about having same beliefs and values about sex and romantic relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:53 PM
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I personally don't see those women around here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:25 PM
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If one can regulate ones emotions than one can regulate sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:23 PM
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CMV: When men here talk about women they talk about sex obsessed and sex positive liberals women. It's just traditionally minded women are not common in this subreddit. Also it's not men vs women it's sex negative vs sex positive. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 11:18 PM
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Do you really want an answer to that question
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:14 PM
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Why are always blaming technology for social problems. Yes technology is part of the problem but not the whole thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:13 PM
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You applied this phenomena to dating specifically, but I think it's worth looking into solutions as it does affect more than dating
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 10:12 PM
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OP this is the problem with this sub is that it doesn't really understand the problem of modern relationships. Hook up culture is what is influencing the behaviors and attitudes of both men and women. I agree some men here do want to hook up with women but are jealous of those who do but there are men like me here who are critical of hook up culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 06:49 PM
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I actually have existential OCD thoughts about the phenomena you are discussing here actually. I am scared eventually we will run out of conversation topics permanently. When that happens do we stop talking to each other. This goes beyond conversation topics to story ideas for movies, shows, and games. Eventually we will run out of ideas permanently. I am pretty sure my existential thoughts come from this phenomena you are talking about need for constant distraction. I noticed when I play games …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 05:37 PM
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OP what is the point of pointing to the truth here when people in this subreddit refuse to acknowledge it. The liberals here are idealistic they refuse to believe human behavior is heavily shaped by environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 04:43 PM
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