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Question For Redpillsouthwer/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 05:11 PM
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To accept an ideology and all of its tenants tenets
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:50 AM
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I guess I was pretty underparented by these standards. I was feeding myself and doing my own laundry and things by age 12 for sure. Parents didn't help with homework, did care about grades but honestly they were busy with various things. We were working class so I started working part-time when I was 14 (babysitting from age 11). Since all of us were working and we lived in the country, there was a flotilla of old, crappy cars that we all used to get to work and school and such. The first car th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/15 12:05 AM
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As a BP person, I have no problem with this as long as your plates aren't being lied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 11:56 PM
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ugh, everything about that relationship was horrifying. Charles is the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/15 04:50 AM
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no, you can want those things in a partner, I'm just saying that if you want something to fuck and to clean up after you, and that you don't have to talk to, a sexbot will be much more efficient and less work than a real human woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 03:54 PM
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yup. I was 99% sure you'd say something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 07:12 AM
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I'm saying that maybe you and the lady in question would see things differently. How would you define "jumping through hoops"? What would you define as a girl who gives you problems? As an example, I see on TRP quite frequently that women who will not have sex very early in a relationship are "nexted". That might seem like a girl who makes a guy jump through hoops, whereas the woman might just see it as protecting herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:29 AM
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a chick that makes me jump through hoops or gives me any problems. a chick with standards FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 02:17 AM
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sexbots. you guys have a bright future ahead of you!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:07 PM
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I think what we BPers are trying to say is that there is a middle path between thinking women are angels and thinking they're subhuman. We are people just like you. Treat us like people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:03 PM
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"deference and attempts to please" THIS is why you guys are so annoying. There is no normal human interaction. How did you see any of that as PossibleAssHat trying to suck up to Archwinger? He/she (I don't know which) is trying to get someone to explain TRP in a way they can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 01:00 PM
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I can’t help it if some of the women I interact with decide they want me to cheat on my wife with them. I didn’t offer or encourage them. do you cheat on your wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/15 12:57 PM
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I want to believe that he is epically trolling that reporter. But probably not. He is physically good looking but to me, not dateable. edited to add: but I would LOVE to have a beer with him, he is hilarious, regardless of his intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:34 PM
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well one is straight coercion which is rape. the other is false pretenses which, as I noted above, seems like it can be considered rape in some places. I didn't get a chance to google yet. edit: here's a link on the subject in NY state, it appears that in the US some states treat this issue and some do not: http://nysbar.com/blogs/lawstudentconnection/2013/11/rape_by_fraud_deception_or_imp.html here's another link on the subject in CA: http://www.crimeandconsequences.com/crimblog/2013/01/rape-by…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:31 AM
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oh man, I think I remember having a conversation with you about whether or not you were a second wave feminist! how are you doing? edit: I will change my view if I find that there is enough evidence, anecdotes, articles, studies, etc. to back up the opposing viewpoint. here's the thing. as many, MANY others have noted, you're not distinguishing between fantasy and actual rape. Do you not get that there's a difference between the two? So there's not really any number of studies that I can see tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:24 AM
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Hmm. I know there are definitions of rape in some places that involve misrepresenting yourself in order to get laid. I feel like this sub referenced a case in Israel, I will try to find it. I personally do not consider this rape but I do consider it incredibly shitty. Theft? Fraud? I'm unclear on how I would define it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 05:04 AM
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rape fantasy. but as others have remarked, there is probably nothing that will change your view, other than perhaps experiencing rape directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 04:59 AM
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It's not even that the language and concepts are so offensive, it is that they sound stupid. Anyone who buys into such an absolutist world view is not a critical thinker. And the purple prose of the field reports is downright embarrassing. It's on par with the writing of E.L. James.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:50 AM
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Others pointed to my lack of sexual experience to discredit me and say "see! this idiot has no clue what he's talking about!" OK, I can see how that's a low blow, but at the same time, if you have no experience how can you expect people to take you seriously? It reminds me of a comment on here in which a literal 18 year old boy criticized a mother of five's parenting...if you have no personal experience in the subject, maybe don't posit yourself as an authority on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:38 AM
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are you serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:30 AM
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I mean, the red pill is completely heteronormative, and for that reason I feel that LGBT folks have a valuable perspective on this. The general TRP view on gender is that if you have boy parts you have a boy brain and think boy thoughts and that women and men are practically different species. People who are not cis or heterosexual can provide a valuable viewpoint. Because obviously AWANLT (all women are not like that). edited to add: this subreddit ends up being a debate about gender far more t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/15 02:04 AM
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There is a very significant link between education and a lower fertility rate. If you want to equate being educated with "blueness", then yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 04:58 AM
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I agree with you about most of this. But, I have been ripped apart by both men and women for being a SAHM, so perhaps you don't see it but the disdain is there. all the other stuff? in total agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:35 AM
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that is an extra special kitten image. thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:06 AM
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blue pill, four year old twin girls. We're done as we're older parents and we live in a very expensive city. having more than two here generally means you are very rich (or weirdly, very poor).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:05 AM
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Being a SAHM is generally not respected either, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 12:00 AM
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Because almost no nuclear family can survive on a single income anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/15 11:58 PM
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yeah, that's how it is with young kids. it's pretty hard, but I have definitely noticed that it is vastly easier this year. I think twins are a weird special case where you pay up front in insanity and then by the time they're four...they're pretty good at playing together and keeping each other company. They still fight, naturally, but I would say their relationship is pretty harmonious as far as sibling interactions go. Do you have any parent friends who have kids of a similar age? if you can …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/15 03:12 AM
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I'm so sorry you lost your second. My husband and I have four year old twin girls. Do you think as your son gets older and more independent, things will change in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/15 03:58 AM
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while wearing a thong. I fucking love Kenny Powers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:45 AM
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yes, and she seems OK with it, so what's the problem? I'm married but I too would rather be alone than to get married just for the sake of being married rather than with the person I love...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:36 AM
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the most amazing Freudian slip ever
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:19 AM
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how old is your son right now? this is your first kid?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:17 AM
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because finding someone attractive is not exclusively about looks, it's about behavior, confidence, chemistry, a lot of intangibles, often even more than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/15 07:14 AM
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that would be my guess too
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/15 02:32 AM
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so it's kind of like idiocracy?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:47 AM
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no, do go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:32 AM
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There are no people more entitled than feminists, who demand all non-rapists to be killed. so...feminists want the rapists to live, and the non-rapists to be killed? edit: because that doesn't really make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/15 07:09 AM
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ok that kind of makes more sense, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 10:54 PM
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Is "holding frame" just another term for being a person with a backbone? because, if so, I don't understand how holding frame is some big secret. No one, male or female, respects someone who has no spine. I feel like I am taking crazy pills, I don't understand how having a backbone and not being a pushover is some huge secret for getting laid. everyone knows this!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/15 05:01 AM
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prisons are crowded due to drug convictions. personally I, and lots of other people, are not afraid of drug addicts unless they are also violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 03:51 AM
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I definitely find boyishness appealing in its place - to be replaced by alpha masculinity when warranted! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 11:11 PM
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I didn't watch the video, but I have no problem with someone whose idea of bliss is a giant boat and hookers, as long as they remember to pay the hookers well. have at it. I have a problem with Charlie Sheen because he is a dad and is he deeply, deeply failing at being a parent to his kids. also he is terrifying. edit: I'm a lady and no. but if my kid had cancer and someone wanted to have sex once for like five million dollars? you bet your ass I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 10:54 PM
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ok, interesting, thank you! edit: I just realized this suggests that men wish women would be supplicating towards them. That's...hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 08:25 PM
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so where are men getting the message that treating people well equals doing whatever they say?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:42 PM
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do you think men find neediness attractive in women, or is it something they can excuse if the woman has other qualities that outweigh it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:35 PM
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can you think of an example in entertainment media (books, movies, tv) where a guy is supplicating and that is portrayed as a good thing? I'm being serious, I completely agree with your point, but in most media I can think of, those traits are almost universally portrayed as a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:34 PM
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"you're" welcome
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/14 07:26 PM
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I think a lot of the advice about masculinity is great. I just disagree with the shitty evopsych hamstering. oh, and the deep hatred of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/14 05:14 AM
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no way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 12:13 AM
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but if you didn't know they had SO's, then it isn't really the situation OP is talking about. I think he/she means willfully having a sexual relationship with someone whom you know has a spouse/SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 12:10 AM
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no, I think that's tacky as hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/14 12:08 AM
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it's really a case by case basis. if I walked in on someone in the act of hurting my kids, I would kill them if I was able to. In the scenario you outline, I'd have to do a cost-benefit analysis. My kids need me around to take care of them, so whatever I did, I'd better not get caught, or I'd end up putting my kids in an even worse situation. Would my killing this perpetrator keep him or her from hurting other innocents? How do I know the perp would go on to hurt others if I didn't kill him or h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/14 11:55 PM
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he's absolutely my favorite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/14 04:29 AM
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yeah, this was kind of hilarious, because Seinfeld as an alpha male role model? dear god.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/14 01:31 AM
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I don't care about partner count. I care about past behavior, all behavior, not just in romantic relationships - has he/she cheated? etc. it's really a case by case basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/14 04:42 AM
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does Aerobus need you to defend him? I'm trying to understand. aerobus said TRP doesn't care about the phenomena of AFBB, but rather that TRP gets upset that women get upset. that seems so non-TRP. frame and all that jazz.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 11:13 PM
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you're right, it isn't anyone else's place to dictate what you do with your life. and their emotions can't, in fact, dictate what you do. so why care if women are upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 10:28 PM
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oh I see. definitely whoosh. But I'm OK if you think I'm a hypocrite, I don't have time to chastise all of reddit just so you think I'm spreading my opinions around evenly.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 10:26 PM
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I have no qualms with any of the criticisms you've leveled towards your former classmates, nor with your criticism of some of the history of the feminist movement. Nor with the fact that many people are only able to have families today and remain in their careers due to employing help. (the answer to that, by the way, is more feminism, in the form of government support for parental leave, childcare, a whole bunch of stuff). But. I do not agree that because your friends are classist, racist dicks…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 10:11 PM
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I'm not the one who compared women to the DMV and pussy to getting one's license. I wouldn't make that post because I don't believe that a man's role in a marriage is only to provide money.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 10:01 PM
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We're upset because...women become resentful and are angered so you're upset about AFBB because women are upset? who cares? it makes more sense that you would be angry over the phenomena of AFBB
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/14 09:55 PM
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this is the best analogy for the TRP attitude to women I've ever heard. Literally, a woman is just the thing attached to a cunt that keeps you from fucking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 02:13 PM
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her last words were "U make me afraid" is this a flirting win, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 12:25 AM
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Do you happen to know how many people saved others from the twin towers and what sex they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/14 12:23 AM
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literally, knowing the difference between wanting something and feeling that you deserve it, that you are entitled to it. I want that cup of coffee, but it's not mine. Entitlement: that cup of coffee is mine (whether or not it actually is).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/14 12:22 AM
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no that's actually the best example
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:43 PM
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Abortion is not new. Abortion has been around forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:23 PM
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I mean, TRP would say yes, because they believe in gender essentialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:22 PM
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if you really suspect your kid isn't yours, what else are you going to do? be glad you at least have a scientific way to find out whether or not a kid is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:08 PM
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ah I see. he was definitely all those things!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 12:43 PM
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more than goes against societal norms - it is a betrayal of a person who trusted you. Casual sex goes against US societal norms but isn't inherently unethical, depending on how you go about it. Cheating is about being dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:32 AM
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how old are you guys? If you're young this is the kind of thing that can happen when you're figuring out your limits with drinking and other stuff. I think this doesn't sound like a compulsion she has or an addiction, more like an accident if it happens at most once a year. I hope she is more careful in the future, but I'm glad she has good friends to help (and a good boyfriend!), we all make mistakes when it comes to alcohol and it doesn't mean she should be taken advantage of. It's unfortunate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/14 02:26 AM
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how was he more stereotypically masculine? I've always been interested in the TRP definition of the 'alpha' because as far as I can tell, a lot of what is said about the alpha is actually pretty honorable. Don't lie to your partners, that kind of thing. WH in that role actually seemed more like a permanent man-child, which as far as I can tell is supposed to be a beta thing? Like, he has no control over his own behavior. It's so unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:51 PM
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that's a bold move considering The Ethical Slut explicitly condemns cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:46 PM
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But what's up with this sexual willingness when she gets super drunk? Does it indicate something about her commitment to me? I don't think so. It sounds like she goes totally out of her mind when she drinks too much and she needs to be more careful. I've never believed that alcohol is some kind of truth serum, in the sense that the things people do when severely drunk are actually things they WANT to do unconsciously but don't do when sober. We are our brains, when we alter our brain activity wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:54 PM
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this is really the crux of the issue, I think. Over and over I see TRP bemoaning the fact that women are financially and sexually independent. I don't think TRP wants a level playing field, at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:21 PM
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women not fucking everyone leads to war, but women fucking everyone leads to the downfall of society???
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:14 PM
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I was responding to even today, men are not entitled to DNA tests The doctor thing is interesting and complicated. I'm trying hard to think about what I would do in that situation. There is the possibility Mom was raped, I think it might be a minority of cases but I am sure it would account for a small percentage. I can understand an MD just bowing out of the situation altogether as long as no genetic diseases were at risk of being spread. MDs really are taught that non-interference is the best …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:04 PM
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because dudes can't get pregnant, obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 09:14 AM
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that's...not true. US courts can and do order paternity tests, all the time. which European countries have made them illegal and in which contexts?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:43 AM
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to ensure paternity? which we don't need to do anymore, since we have DNA tests
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:34 AM
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so, really what people are upset about is that women have more freedom now? they are no longer sexually constrained, so men don't get to have as much sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 07:22 AM
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OK. I know I'm going on stereotypes here but again, I'm honestly astounded that 80% of your friends told you it was OK for women to cheat. In Houston TX, the most socially conservative city in a conservative state, 80% of the people you know think it's OK for a woman to cheat because feminism? because...I'm a bisexual lady who is a feminist with a capital F, I went to one of the seven sisters for college, I am STEEPED in feminist rhetoric, and I have never ever ever heard one of my fellow femina…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:34 AM
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I don't know what to say. I feel like we live on different planets. For all I know we do. Just, how can literally every person you know be an asshole? There have to be some normal people. Are you religious at all, can church be an option for meeting new people? What are you into? also can I ask how old you are and where you live? like if you live in a bigger city there are many more options open to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 05:09 AM
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OK. to the first part of your statement, again I say to you, get new friends. Like, immediately. To the second part, yes, I have seen people on this thread (of both pill colors) say it is your fault for being a doormat and putting up with friends and girlfriends who apparently shit on you. I genuinely can't figure out who you're hanging out with but I'll be damned if I would continue to hang out with people who think cheating is a totally OK thing to do, for men or women, for whatever reason the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 04:48 AM
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no, they've said you're the common factor in having a string of bad girlfriends and that maybe you should raise your standards for who you date and who you hang out with. not one person has said that cheating is an OK thing to do to another human being, and that is why I find it so hard to believe that everyone you know has told you that cheating IS ok. You've shown a propensity to conflate casual sex with cheating. Those are two VASTLY different things. I'm thinking that maybe some of your frie…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 04:36 AM
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I'm at a loss. Every single person on this thread, however they identify, has said cheating is bad. Can we, the good redditors of PPD, really be so different from the wider world? Like, we all think cheating sucks but magically everyone you know thinks cheating is totally awesome? If you believe that feminists are all YAY CHEATING then go ahead and don't be a feminist. Do what you gotta do. I feel bad that you got cheated on seven times and that you kept the same shitty group of friends who said…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 04:19 AM
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What did I defend?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 04:01 AM
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No, it seems unfathomable to me that so many people would excuse cheating for any reason. It is pretty uniformly disapproved of. And also, I'm amazed that you have so many friends you consider to be feminists, because you sound like you despise women. I'm surprised self-identified feminists would hang out with you. if you're not trolling, what did you hope to get out of posting this? if you want to join TRP, join TRP. It sounds like you're pretty much there, so why were you interested in anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:55 AM
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no, just when I can tell it's bullshit. what percentage of people told you this crap? be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:46 AM
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No, I don't believe you because everything you've said so far sounds like bullshit. I absolutely, categorically, do NOT believe that 95% of people (male and female) you told about your girlfriends' cheating ALL told you it was your fault because feminism. Yes, I'm calling you a liar. Most people in the US don't identify as feminist anyway (never mind the fact that feminists don't like being cheated on either). So you expect me to believe that this is the reaction you got from your peer group? bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:40 AM
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omg. this is getting really melodramatic. for the love of god, not caring if people have casual sex does NOT equal being pro-cheating. where in Christ are you getting this idea? I find it impossible to believe that every single one of your friends, in your entire life, told you it was totally OK that your girlfriends cheated on you because SPICE GIRLS POWER or some bullshit. OK? Yes, I'm calling you out. I do not believe you. Ron Burgundy style, with a glass of scotch.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 03:26 AM
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So every friend you talked to about this would be totally OK with having their boyfriend or girlfriend lie to them and cheat on them? This is literally what all of your friends said to you, all SEVEN times your girlfriends cheated on you? Not a single one of them had your back? That just seems weird. Anyway. I think you'll find that lots of people who are into casual sex or polyamory or any of the various kink communities also feel quite strongly about behaving ethically. If you're interested I …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:47 AM
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What are you talking about? There are lots of people who are able to have casual sex but be ethical about it. You're correct that I (personally, not as a representative of any BP ideology) do not care who people sleep with as long as they are behaving ethically. Behaving ethically includes not committing crimes like rape/molestation, and it definitely includes being honest with your partner(s). Cheating is dishonest, and therefore not ethical in my eyes. Where the hell do you get the idea that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:23 AM
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then...I'm going to go with shitty friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 02:11 AM
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by governments instituting policies that are family friendly, for men and women. Creche, parental leave, better family/medical leave... The Economist is constantly harping on the fact that Japan's demographic crisis is pretty much caused by the fact that the country is making it so fucking hard for people to have kids and work... not to bring up a BP constant but most of the Scandy countries make it much easier for people to reproduce and still work by supporting more flex time, nurseries, paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:25 AM
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or if the US gave two shits about child care or parental leave (for men and women)... of course this assumes we are speaking about the US labor market
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:18 AM
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I couldn't agree with you more. I think we underestimate simple curiosity more than we should.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/14 12:01 AM
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All of them cheated, all of them were excused Who excused their behavior? I don't really understand what this means. The only person who can "excuse" or not excuse a behavior in a relationship is the other person. If someone cheats on you, you dump them. You and your girlfriend are the only people in the relationship, so only you have the power to excuse what she does. If you mean your friend group didn't condemn her for cheating, then you have a pretty shitty friend group. Which may explain a s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/14 11:55 PM
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"Let's make the car a place of silent reflection."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 10:17 PM
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My husband is pretty awesome, but in fanfic fantasies, I feel like the ideal embodiment of masculinity is Rust Cohle. Except that he would want to have babies and possibly not have such a tragic past. for those of you who have not seen True Detective, please watch, besides being an amazing show it has a lot to say about masculinity which is very interesting. edited to add: that character also embodies a trait which I've seen people talk about here before, in that women probably do like a man who…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/14 09:27 PM
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Oh, how I want to believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 03:08 AM
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whoa dude. are you being sarcastic?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 03:05 AM
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me too
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/14 03:03 AM
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Just chiming in with love for Nina Hartley. She's amazing. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/14 05:46 PM
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well, we excuse things in children that we would never excuse in other adults by definition. no adult gets a pass to act like a child and get excused for it. an addenda is the sexual relationship - we want to have sex with equal partners, male or female, not people we have to parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/14 04:48 AM
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I think there's a fair amount of good advice there. I just don't understand why you have to believe in really, really stupid evo-psych to utilize it.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/14 11:21 PM
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I'm not going to touch the part of this where we speculate that childhood abuse can "cause" homosexuality. I don't have the time to read the studies and respond appropriately. From what I've read, experts don't seem to think so, but u/GridReXX has some interesting thoughts on it. I've done a fair bit of reading on child-on-child sex abuse and most guidelines state that a difference of 4 or more years between the victim and abuser is where people start to characterize what might otherwise be term…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/14 02:53 AM
1

What exactly happened in your relationship? You seemed to imply that you broke up because you thought she was cheating? what made you think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 08:55 PM
1

this has always been my feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:29 AM
1

what makes this particular group "the truth"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:10 AM
1

so did your girlfriend actually cheat on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 02:08 AM
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there is nothing wrong with cat pictures, sir. :I
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/14 01:00 AM
1

by doing what? clubbing women and dragging them away by their hair? what a ridiculous statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/14 04:00 AM
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I was not trying to be sarcastic. I genuinely found what you said interesting, and I said thanks because I wanted to thank you for responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 03:03 AM
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ok, that's interesting. thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 02:48 AM
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I've actually had this thought before. Take the concept of last minute resistance. A dude who freaks out when a woman tells him to stop is automatically showing himself to be someone who is unsafe for that person to be around. Conversely, a guy who dials it back and who acts like he's in control of himself sexually is a different story. Who is the woman going to trust more? Who will she feel safer with sexually? I'm surprised more guys haven't come to this conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 02:46 AM
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yes - pro meaning prostitute. it just seems a simpler solution to wanting sex without having to talk to anyone or be interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 02:13 AM
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This is a serious question - are you successful finding FWBs that you don't have to interact with? Have you worked with a pro?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/14 12:56 AM
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nothing. people are voicing their opinions. ban illegal things like child porn and stolen selfies, I wouldn't ban people just for saying things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 11:04 PM
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no wertie, women could never achieve anything as innovative as launching a flaming piano through the air. we should just give up now. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/14 05:34 PM
1

I don't think this is anything new, the only part that is new is the involvement of the internet in connecting these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/14 02:35 AM
1

who's "forcing" anyone to get vaccinated?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/14 09:01 PM
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I do think that this is what TRP philosophy ultimately implies. I will say, as a bisexual lady married to a man, I can agree with a fair amount of TRP LTR advice. In my experience and the experience of my friends, especially in marriages with kids, women end up doing 75% of the grunt work. This is not only related to the drudgery like cleaning, child care, etc, but also being the person who has to remember and organize everything, and also being the person who has to plan and decide everything. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 01:45 PM
1

ah ok, it's cool that you shared that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 01:21 AM
1

in what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 01:02 AM
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I guess I am white knighting? I'm not totally sure how to define that. Obviously, if I truly didn't give a shit, I wouldn't be on the thread. I don't know, I just don't get it and I think I want to understand. Everyone's of age (supposedly?) everyone's fully informed and consenting, everyone's on board with safety...I don't get how her having a gangbang objectively makes her a bad person, or even more importantly, how it affects society as a whole. what is it about the whole thing that upsets yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/14 01:00 AM
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well, it's like the analogy I used about evangelical Christianity, where TRP people are the Xtians. You say this lady is going to hell (her SMV will be ruined) and she says she doesn't believe in hell/SMV. Are you waiting for her to come back to you in 25 years and say, you were right, everything went downhill after that gangbang! and you can say I told you so? Why do you care what she does?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 08:36 PM
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I just read the thread. I don't think anyone argued that her next boyfriend "should be thrilled". Gangbang lady pretty explicitly said that she was honest with her partners, and anyone who wasn't cool with her past didn't have to date her. She's part of the kink community so I doubt she'll have a hard time finding people to date who are cool with this. But you guys sure do get disapproving about sex if it's a lady doing crazy sex things. You're kind of like church ladies about it, "SOCIETY IS DO…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 08:34 PM
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all right, now I have to go over there and check it out. also, you have a delightful username!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:52 PM
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all good points. I just think any argument you are going to get here is going to be pretty personal to the person making it. There are obviously logical arguments to be made for and against seeing everything through the evo-psych lens; to me personally, it's all just a little too neat. I hope you are able to find an approach that will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 02:57 PM
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yes, concern trolling. Bringing up safety concerns is valid, in a thread where someone is talking about how to arrange a gangbang. But I guess the line is drawn when you define safety and "danger". Putting aside physical safety, there are a couple things to consider here. I know several people who are evangelical Christians. From their standpoint, I am genuinely courting moral danger by not believing as they do. I can use me and my Xtian friend as stand-ins for this lady and OP. Is OP being genu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 02:52 PM
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OK, I see. I misread your original post for sure. But again, I don't know what anyone can tell you. Lots of people will say they "know" that there is nothing more to romantic relationships than biology but that's an opinion, not a fact. You're going to come down on whatever side seems most convincing to you personally. And in my opinion, there is so much in human behavior that absolutely cannot be explained through this lens of the "mating" drive, or whatever. You don't want to have kids. How co…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 02:24 PM
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I don't read that sub very much so I don't know what the norm is there - some subs don't ban what I consider to be really abusive users, some ban really quickly. It's up to the mods, and it's not really censorship. No government is trying to control your speech. If I went into TRP and started telling them but people will think you're misogynists! I expect I would get banned pretty quickly. I'm not necessarily surprised at a bad reaction, either, I imagine most users there are probably tired of h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:25 AM
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oh. ok, romantic love and sex. hmm. I don't think so, but I don't know how to make a convincing argument to you. To me, love is love. The love I feel for my friends, the love I feel for my kids, the love I feel for my husband, that all feels the same to me. Wanting to fuck someone, romantic infatuation, that's different. I really don't think that is entirely about reproduction however. From a personal standpoint, I've had romantic relationships with women in which I felt every single butterfly i…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 05:16 AM
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OK I see what you're saying, and actually with your second sentence I don't think an elaboration on my life necessarily applies. I think this is a larger philosophical and existential question you're getting at. If everything is down to genes and neurochemistry, and everything we feel and think is just neurons firing, what is the point? if that's wrong, please put me back on track, but that is how I think of it when I ask myself these questions. So I think what you're looking for is personal ans…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 04:37 AM
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well, in terms of safety I am 100% with you. if she's already had threesome with two of those guys, one hopes they would vet the other guys involved... those are reasonable concerns. regarding her reputation - how did you think people at r/sex were going to react when you said but people might think you're a slut!?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 04:11 AM
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Do you really think other people don't love their friends? That they don't love their families? Do you love your friends and family? I read things like this a lot in ex-redpill, that dudes immersed themselves in this community to the extent that they stopped believing anyone ever felt/did anything that wasn't 100% self-serving. Most people are capable of lots of different things. They are capable of being self-serving and capable of being altruistic. Most people are a mixture of both. One of the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:44 AM
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I agree with your basic concerns about security. Would you still be concerned if this woman had several trusted people there to keep her safe?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/14 03:35 AM
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This is so cringe inducing. It's a crying shame, because the female body is capable of some tremendous feats of orgasm. Again: I should know, i often witness them firsthand. Sotospeak.\ Is this meant to be self-deprecating? I hope so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/14 05:06 PM
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wow
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 05:17 AM
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he is using "locker room" when he means "eight year olds' tree fort NO GIRLZ ALLOWED!"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:57 AM
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god, the people you know sound horrible. don't you know any cool people?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:15 AM
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your slutty friend is a hero. I hope you're still friends with her!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:14 AM
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where do you live? I find NYC really friendly, but I've also always been old before my time, meaning I'm not out in clubs and stuff like that. I still got catcalled but not too much. Do you find that harassment occurs more frequently in certain areas, in certain types of places?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:12 AM
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In real life? Almost never. I'm really friendly, and 99% of the time people are friendly back to me. I'm also almost always in the company of my crazy daughters who people seem to uniformly love. Obviously me being with my kids is going to color my interactions, buffering me from rudeness. So I very rarely encounter nastiness. On the internet? lots. edited to add: I used to live in a rougher neighborhood and I used to not have kids. I've had run-ins with people. I'll add that my bad experiences …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 12:07 AM
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It is correct to say that women have no honor. ??? edited to add: you literally JUST said that women have no honor.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 11:51 PM
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nobody entitled to sex and people should just accept rejection as part of life? Yes. I mean, rejection is a part of life, there is no getting around it, in any area, sex included. also, bodily autonomy - no one is entitled to anyone else's genitals.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 11:07 PM
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If people have standards that are totally unrealistic, and it is making them into ragemonsters because they are getting rejected all the time, one hopes that they would listen if their friends tried to make them see reason. but I think that the kind of people who become enraged when someone won't fuck them are already pretty detached from reality, so it may not help.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 10:59 PM
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So the only solution is for women to voluntarily not achieve so men won't feel inadequate? why can't men keep up?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 04:08 PM
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yes, it's a parody sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 04:05 PM
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I've never said it in earnest. It's hyperbole, and anyone should recognize it as such the minute it comes out of their mouths.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:56 AM
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"pray tell"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:47 AM
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Your Empathizing Quotient is 75. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have a very high ability for understanding how other people feel and responding appropriately. You know how to treat people with care and sensitivity". Your Systemizing Quotient is 42. Baron-Cohen (2003) suggests that this means "you have an average ability for analysing and exploring a system".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:30 AM
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Harm 4.5 Fairness 4.5 loyalty 1.3 authority 1.2 purity 1.3
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:19 AM
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you're adorable!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 07:09 AM
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They are both immature nightmares?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 02:03 AM
1

someone has a crush!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/14 01:56 AM
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I guess I'm hanging out in the wrong (or the right!) places. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 12:56 AM
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they are incredibly effective, but there are always failures. It's extremely rare but it happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 06:04 AM
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then we just have different opinions about that particular fiasco, which is totally cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 04:41 AM
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so they ban coffee and tea, but not caffeine itself? WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF HAVING CAFFEINE WITHOUT THE GLORIOUS TASTE OF COFFEE AND/OR TEA???? I would die without coffee. I don't need it every day, but sometimes, nothing else would do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 04:36 AM
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but that's how debate works. you can't say something is "widely accepted" and just expect people to roll with it. you need actual facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 04:02 AM
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you make a good point. Should people who receive child support have to submit a budget and receipts to a neutral party? I feel like the government wouldn't go for it due to the immense amount of time/money it would eat up. Family courts don't want that burden and would prefer that families work it all out in mediation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 03:59 AM
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Because child support is about the child, not about alimony. You do actually make twice what your ex does, and I assume the kids live with her most of the time? hence, child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 03:18 AM
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Maria Kang was not "fit-shamed", at least not by me. She posted a totally tone-deaf image in which she held herself up as a physical ideal. Further, she implied that women who DON'T look like her are lazy slackers who make excuses. Not everyone wants to be Maria Kang! People hate her because she's an obtuse narcissist, not because she's fit. ETA: Kind of the same way people hate Gwyneth Paltrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/14 03:14 AM
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Every woman Before/after weight loss pic on FB is flamed, even if she's perfectly healthy after Honestly I have NEVER seen this. Truly. I've never seen anything but support for people losing weight? I know this is a total aside but I've really never seen anyone get flamed for posting weight loss pics. is this something you see a lot of in your friend/family group? and on the other stuff, I have no problem with anyone trying to improve themselves. carry on.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 01:31 AM
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ok, thanks for talking with me. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 12:49 AM
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wow, the data goes into that level of detail?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 12:48 AM
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absolutely, and in that, it's totally different than marriage has been for most of human history. it's fascinating actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/14 12:05 AM
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well that's good, I'm glad it worked for you and you're happy. I'm completely serious btw, if something is working for you, and you're not committing crimes or hurting anyone, go to it and good luck. What I'm trying to express is that love and relationships are not something that are automatically going to happen just because we follow certain rules. There is no relationship angel keeping track of how good we're being and doling out loving partners to the deserving. That's all I was trying to sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:57 PM
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are you really not a troll? god I hope this is real. not that I want a fellow human to be depressed and suffering, but if you really meant this, I just...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:47 PM
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but we all get old and die. If you do want to be happy, you have to find a way to shift your focus from your looks to something else. It's the only way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:43 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2qcbu26gs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:36 PM
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I have told you, I don't believe in that paradigm. As far as I know, no one is keeping score for us. You're the one who said you were worthy and alluded to mysterious experiences that rendered you thus. So I was interested in hearing your story. Wait, did you save a baby from a burning building?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:34 PM
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I definitely think there's something to this. I think there's data somewhere to support the fact that men can reach orgasm more quickly than women? Probably lots of it, though I recently read (again, I can find sources if people want them) that when women masturbate, they report reaching orgasm in the same amount of time it takes men (ie a few minutes). So yeah, if, in straight p-in-v sex, men come really easily, and women don't, who do you think is going to enjoy that more? and then there's all…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:16 PM
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well, I don't believe in the RP universe where everyone has a ranking. So...I have no idea. I can throw out some guesses. Did you foil a terrorist plot?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:09 PM
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In my experience, people (male or female) who can command the kind of attention you describe are few and far between. Are you sure that your life experiences are not more circumscribed by the kinds of places you go and the kinds of people you seek to hook up with? You're living in a world that I fully don't even recognize. Because truly, no normal person gets the kind of attention you're describing on a regular basis unless they're a celebrity. It's a fantasy. I think you need to adjust what you…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 11:07 PM
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I really don't understand what you're asking. I was just curious, it's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 10:59 PM
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Why does it seem like Blue Pillers don't want to accept the fact that men are turned off by women who have had sex with a lot of men, more so than women are turned off by men who have had sex with a lot of women? but that's not what the article said. It said, ""The more sexual partners a woman had before marriage, the less happy she reported her marriage to be."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 10:46 PM
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OK. You said: I've done my part. I went above and beyond the call of duty in my youth. I am worthy. So what act of heroism did you commit in your youth that makes you worthy of the love of compliant virgins? I started this whole, LONG, conversation just because I was curious about that statement. If you don't want to answer that's cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 10:43 PM
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ok. what makes you worthy of the love of a unicorn?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 09:58 PM
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ok. I'm still curious about your noble youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 09:14 PM
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not really. more that no one is going to find love just because they're a good person. although yes, I would say that there is no single "answer" or recipe to follow when looking for love.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 09:04 PM
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I don't think I've ever seen that argued by BP'ers. That might be because you focus your attention on rpers. I've seen plenty. It's not always direct. More often it's implied. That's totally possible. One recent convo I had, the bper told me that it's ok to give such advice despite how insincere or illogical it might sound, because it encourages people to eventually become GNGs. I.e. it's a matter of consequentialism for her. Unfortunately, I think she abandoned her account after an argument we …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 05:36 PM
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ok. I still think you can find love! and sex! But I also think that finding love is not guaranteed in this life. There's no magic formula that will garner you all the things you want. I know lots of truly good people (by my own definition) that haven't found a lasting romantic love, and lots of not so good people (again by my own definitions) that have. Lots of things have a significant component of chance involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 05:34 PM
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how is what I wrote double speak? edited to add: basically all I said was that being nice or good is not a guarantee of getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:49 PM
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Sure. I agree. I just don't see how most observers would know the difference, since we're not mind readers. I don't think you would, initially, but I do think that someone who thinks they deserve sex by virtue of being a "good" guy will eventually do or say something to demonstrate that belief. and that's an interesting philosophical discussion point itself - if you act out the persona of a "GNG" 100%, even if you don't have those feelings inside, are you good? I love talking about this stuff. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:47 PM
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well, the point of the comment I attached is that getting sex and/or love is not about karma. Being nice isn't wrong, but it is wrong to expect that the world will magically reward you for being nice. Someone being sexually or romantically interested in you can be associated with being nice, but it also might not be. You know? If sex/love/attraction were just about being nice or being a good person, then we would automatically want to marry someone who saved our lives. Ridiculous, right? Attract…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:38 PM
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well, to me the difference between a GNG and an FNG is that the FNG believes he is owed something in return for his good behavior. Which is the opposite of what an actual "good" act is about - good is good without expectation of reward. I feel like this is the crux of my and others' mystification with TRP. To me it seems like TRP is full of dudes who have just discovered that no one owes them sex as a reward for "being good". One has nothing to do with the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:27 PM
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OK. I think something I wrote in another thread is kind of relevant: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/2e186n/cmv_being_a_genuine_nice_guy_will_not_get_you/cjxjhjm
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:15 PM
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I never said I was the better person. I was just curious. That's a really dramatic thing to posit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:05 PM
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I think the point here is that being nice and/or being a good person and getting laid quite often have nothing to do with each other. If you want to get laid, you go out and try to get laid. You might or might not be a good person too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:59 PM
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Nothing, they're just not designed to fuck an endless stream of random men. ...why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:53 PM
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women people know that the more attractive they are the easier time they will have attracting a man person. FTFY
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:50 PM
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yeah, I had to ask him. I hope he tells us what he did to qualify him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:44 PM
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I've done my part. I went above and beyond the call of duty in my youth. I am worthy. This is pretty dramatic. What did you do in your youth that makes you forever worthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 03:43 PM
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My question is, "Because a woman has been hit, does that give her license to stretch the truth about how it happened?" How do you know Christy Mack stretched the truth about what happened?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/14 04:57 AM
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Why would he be mad at the girl for? because she dumped him?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 05:34 PM
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yes, very funny. should have added a serious tag
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 03:15 AM
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it's weird that someone claims to be a "radical feminist" and then joins red pill. so I found that interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 02:59 AM
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so born in the late 70's? early 80s? I'm just trying to get a sense of you - you present yourself as old guard but you're pretty young, and if you're a late gen x-er then you were third wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 12:14 AM
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do you mind if I ask how old you are? I'm just curious about this as a generational thing mixed in with your personal experiences. you can PM me if you prefer. in fact, I'll PM you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 04:55 PM
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no true Scotsman...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 07:55 PM
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It has nothing to do with tumblr, I just would have said you were a regular feminist, not a radfem. on the feminism spectrum I classify radfems with Andrea Dworkin. I think of radfems as anti-porn, anti-sex, anti-men. edited to add: I mean obviously people have different definitions of radical feminism, and it certainly was an outgrowth of the second wave. I didn't mean to offend you, it's just that the embrace of polyamory is not terribly second wave so it threw me. I'm interested in your perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 06:54 PM
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I wouldn't say you were ever a radical feminist, from that description.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 02:26 AM
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you must be joking about unions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 12:14 AM
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google is your friend! (it's certainly my best friend when I don't know something...) don't be embarrassed or sad, you can find out everything you need to know and it will all be great. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 11:17 PM
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it can. also, being circumcised can lead to decreased sensitivity in the glans.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 11:05 PM
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What do you mean, teach them about it? how to clean it properly? or teach them about what circumcision is, etc? the most important thing is NOT to try to forcibly retract the foreskin before it's ready. lots of doctors who don't know about foreskins will try to retract it and cause injury. :(
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 11:01 PM
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This is an interesting question, and it all depends on the execution. I think there is a benefit, both to individuals and society at large, to fighting stereotypes of male and female behavior. I think it benefits us all to have more women in STEM fields, more men teaching and running daycare and raising their kids. Giving everyone more individual freedom in pursuing work is probably never going to be a bad thing. So if encouraging boys and girls to learn and work in more varied fields can be con…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 10:55 PM
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It's only prevalent in the US, and rates are dropping. I think routine circ is pretty fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 10:45 PM
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I think it's more complicated than a calculation about social status. what if you don't know the kid isn't biologically yours until he/she is seven years old? You've raised him/her, that's your child, no matter who the biodad is, you are his or her "real" father. Most people love their kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 10:44 PM
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hmm. this is a good question. Honestly, even if neither wants children, if you are embarking on a serious relationship that info is eventually going to come out and hiding it will look weird. it will cause distrust where there doesn't need to be any. It's also not out of the realm of possibility that one or both of you changes your mind about wanting kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:04 PM
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Men with low counts are viewed as unsuccessful. Women with high counts are viewed as unselective and lacking in self control. Women get perks from this that they happily use. Why shouldn't men? but what are the perks that women get from this double standard? However, they still benefit from a culture that pushes men to pursue. 2 to 1 male to female ratio on dating sites. Women receiving far more messages on sites and offers of sex in all areas of there lives. oh, is this supposed to be the perk?…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 01:57 PM
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physically yes, mentally no.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 01:44 PM
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doesn't matter to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 01:37 PM
0

oh I didn't watch the whole thing! goodness no. I started it, saw it was 22 minutes and just stopped immediately. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 06:12 AM
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I just assumed the outfit was a joke and an homage to Travolta in Saturday Night Fever.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 02:43 AM
1

probably curiosity and connection to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 02:38 AM
1

Skins is deeply trashy and entertaining. I've only seen the original british one with Nicholas hoult & co.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 02:37 AM
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yes, very much like ecology. it's not just obvious social determinants like money - stuff like social status and stress can have a significant effect on health.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 07:39 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_determinants_of_health This is a basic intro. huge, huge amounts of disease expression are explained by social difference. I'm studying public health and it's an entire field of its own. Did you look at the article I posted earlier on genetics and biological determinism? Most importantly for our purposes, even for an extremely heritable trait such as height, the environment can drastically change the observed traits. For example, during the Guatemalan Civil Wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 06:30 PM
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ok. I was just curious. In my experience it's pretty rare that anyone knows it past a few generations back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 06:17 PM
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how certain conditions and diseases effect certain groups seems like it can be helpful. Yes, but genetic diseases are mostly not linked to skin color. They arise due to a random genetic mutation that is heritable. Sickle cell anemia is most often seen in subtropical populations because it can be protective against malaria, but it has absolutely NOTHING to do with skin color. We should absolutely map the human genome and everyone should get screened for various heritable genetic diseases so we do…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 06:09 PM
3

what is your family history?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 05:27 PM
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well, it would take pretty much an omniscient computer being able to model absolutely every interaction between genes and environment, so...maybe not? I just think of anecdotal stories of identical twins in which one twin is gay and one straight. they have identical genetics, and very similar (not identical) upbringing. how does that happen? is it epigenetics? environment? choice? something else that we can't even begin to understand yet? I have no problem with research - I do think some researc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 05:24 PM
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jesus, that's 22 minutes long.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 04:12 PM
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I'm just going to add my upvote to everything you just said. thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 04:11 PM
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Someone posted this article on TBP a few weeks ago, and it sums up pretty well what I think about biological determinism with respect to race and sex: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/01/theres-a-gene-for-that/ I think it's lazy and presumptuous at best, outright dangerous at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 03:04 PM
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TIL that u/insultsbythepound thinks people of different colors are as different from each other as humans are from cats
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 01:14 PM
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pretty racist. biological determinism is crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 05:41 AM
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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/glom I don't think so, but I wrote messages asking why I got banned and then I never went back to check if they unbanned me. probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 04:27 AM
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•Don't be weird •Fixate on grooming, hygiene, and scent for real, the two SINGLE most important things in the whole universe...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 04:25 AM
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I'm going to glom on to everything you just said, including the fact that I got banned from r/askfeminists and r/feminism. I don't know if I ever got unbanned actually, I should check.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 04:06 AM
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Is it really impossible there are women who want to be SAHMs and home makers out a sense of love and concern for those they love? I'm a SAHM. I've never seen anyone on TBP put down SAHMs. I see it in a lot of other subreddits, like r/childfree. Never TBP. What I see is TBP making fun of the idea that women secretly all want to be SAHMs. I'd say that TRP's insistence on biological determinism is its Achilles heel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 03:27 AM
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I'm bluepill and a SAHM. I have never EVER seen anyone say that about traditional women on TBP. Find a comment and I will eat my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 03:18 AM
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his references are sick, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 02:54 AM
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I'm not your buddy, guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 02:44 AM
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Hey there, I want to respond to these first two points I just need some time to gather specific sources. I truly disagree that it's not meant to be sexist, pretty much every source linked in the sidebar I find really, really sexist. I mean read any of them. It's pretty bad. with regards to racism/homophobia, I can definitely find specific comments, but not in the sidebar. that's why I said I come across it in the reading of TRP. Soldiers: again this is going to take some digging on my part, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 02:38 AM
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I think there could be some truth to this, but I hesitate to say that it would be true in everyfamily
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:44 PM
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She thought you were going to ask her out on an actual date, then you texted her for casual sex. She was insulted.
/r/askTRP03/06/14 11:19 PM
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Thank you! I hope so too. He is my first husband. We met when I was 29 and he was 40, got married at 32/42. I dated casually a fair bit and had two serious prior relationships. I am anti-red pill because I feel the red pill philosophy is quite sexist. In addition to that, I do come across a fair bit of racism and homophobia when I read TRP as well which is not cool with me. It's unfortunate as I think a lot of the dating and self-improvement advice is quite good. I consider myself a feminist, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 09:50 PM
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It's hard for me to rank these because they are all important: most important would be intelligence and kindness, probably in equal importance. Personal integrity being a close third, then stability/having his shit together and compatibility (wanting the same things in life). As an aside, I'm realizing I wrap a whole lot of things up with 'intelligence' like not being racist/sexist/homophobic. My husband has all of these things, and I feel very lucky. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 03:16 PM
1

Is this about getting a pre-nup?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/14 02:29 AM
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So feminism has a plus and minus sides. The plus is like fighting against the abuses of women like rape. The minus side is telling women what they should want, and typically what they tell is not a baby. I totally never thought that feminism means women shouldn't have babies. I have two little girls and I consider myself feminist. I think if anything, feminism (or perhaps the left, in general) is about trying to make things easier for parents (men and women) by advocating for paid maternity and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 04:18 PM
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I cannot even IMAGINE having triplets. The horror. These are the only two kids I have so I really don't know - I think it must be so dependent on the personalities in question in some ways. Certainly the first year was hard as hell for us, and not just difficult in the sense that it was hard logistically, but no one ever got enough sleep, ever, so you're working with that, and the worst thing was when one baby would cry, but I was already comforting the other baby so I couldn't do much about fir…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 04:03 PM
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do you have an easy baby? that's why I qualified it saying it depends on baby/kid type. I have twins, one was luckily an easy baby, one had colic and I literally used to spend days trying to get her to eat, keep her from crying, etc. they're toddlers now and things are quite a bit easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 03:30 PM
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you're correct, you were asking the question. thanks for clarification!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 02:13 PM
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in general I don't see any point in lying about this, if a person has a huge problem with your sexual history then you just know more quickly that you aren't compatible. However this is a question that I wouldn't ask anyone. If they wanted to tell me (and I have had guys spontaneously tell me about their sexual history) that's fine. If a guy doesn't want to tell someone he's a virgin, who cares? he doesn't need to tell anyone if he doesn't want to. In general, I think we should all just be happy…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 02:05 PM
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but how are you going to make sure your lily-white kids don't reproduce with a brown person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:59 PM
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shit just got real, getting popcorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:58 PM
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so what did you say at TRP that got you banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:37 PM
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that was really nice! I like that synopsis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:34 PM
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The TRP philosophy encourages gold-digging. If you don't want a woman to work while in a marriage, what safety net does she have to rely on, other than your money? Gold-digging is another word for women supporting themselves in a "traditional" society. Honestly I've never gotten this. The ideal relationship set up by the tenets of TRP and RPW IS gold-digging. So how can you complain about it at the same time? edit: whoops, totally misspelled "tenets" as "tenants", edited to fix
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:12 PM
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exercise as an industry definitely took off in the 70s. there were people lifting weights before that but it was a small number.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:07 PM
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I think TRP men may have more of a trophy wife marriage in mind. Even one baby can totally consume a day#, leaving little to no time for cooking/cleaning and certainly no time for making yourself pretty, which is incredibly time-consuming on its own. If they really want someone who does this all effortlessly then that person will need outside help to watch the kids sometimes, definitely a fair amount of money spent on hair, clothes, gym, waxing/manis/pedis, etc. CAVEAT: depends on the baby/babie…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:26 PM
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seven years of the college dating scene?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:21 PM
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I just don't get the attachment to an unnecessary surgery on a newborn. I understand it's part of some people's religion, but besides that, I don't understand the American attachment to it (I'm American too). What's your personal stake in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 11:06 AM
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it's also a low risk for something that is 100% unnecessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:58 AM
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ideally you wouldn't have to. but I also think it is no one's business but your own and it's tacky to ask about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:44 AM
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FGM actually varies from place to place in terms of what is removed. of course what we hear about is complete removal of the clitoris and labia minora, and sewing up the labia majora leaving a tiny opening for urinary tract and vagina. So yes, in that form of FGM the male equivalent would be complete removal of the penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:49 AM
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I'm the farthest thing from an MRA possible, but I think routine infant circumcision is probably one of the dumbest things occurring in medicine today. Also, it is going the way of the dodo in the US. Europe is just a little ahead of us on this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:47 AM
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but babies have died having this done. not a lot, but it has happened. See this book for another horrible example of things going wrong: http://www.amazon.com/As-Nature-Made-Him-Raised/dp/0061120561 Obviously what happened to David Reimer was horrible above and beyond the initial accident, but...why do this to a newborn if it's not necessary medically? It's just stupid, I can't think of another word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:45 AM
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I also consider it to be mutilation, I had always thought the technical definition of mutilation was to remove or modify parts, but now I see that it has a more negative connotation in its actual definition; to injure, disfigure, or make imperfect by removing or irreparably damaging parts. So a negative connotation of damaged or injured is built into the definition. With this clarified, I guess a well performed circumcision could technically not be considered mutilation. But I kind of don't care…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:40 AM
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I am a woman, a feminist, and I am completely opposed to routine circumcision of infants. It's totally unnecessary and potentially dangerous. if the kid has some kind of medical problem with his foreskin later it can be revisited.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 12:35 AM
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the money thing I can address - most people (most, not all) are rich because their parents were also rich. Also, I think different societies and different individuals have VASTLY different yardsticks for measuring what is valuable and what is not. In current western society thinness is valued, in western Europe in the Baroque period fatness was valued (also in current Mauritania). There are lots of different theories for this which I won't get into. I agree that lots of societies do measure inhe…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 01:05 AM
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well, technically any reason you want to dump someone is a good enough reason. no one is ever obligated to stay in a romantic relationship. so, I guess it depends on the people in the relationship, and what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 07:11 AM
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well, there is still a lot of divorce, but I believe that is actually changing? I feel like I read an article stating that in gen x divorce rates (for the people who do get married in the first place) are much lower than that of the baby boomers. Looking for citation, will be back -
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/14 02:34 AM
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before any of those aspects, I would put character, intelligence, kindness...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 07:17 PM
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TBP was set up to be a parody site of TRP - to be fair, mockery is kind of what it's about... edited to add: I think most TBPers who are asked in a non-sarcastic fashion what advice they would give as opposed to what TRP stands for are pretty happy to give their opinion. I've seen really good advice in this thread from TBPers so far that is not nasty or mean-spirited. I would say, like the people on this thread, that a great amount of the advice given on TRP is good, but the viewpoint that "all …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 04:34 PM
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now that women are not forced to marry to save themselves from destitution (although this is still not true in most of the world), I would say that the reasons to marry are indeed much weaker. In a perfectly equal society, in which both men and women have the means to support themselves independently, people marry for love rather than economics. It becomes an act of choice rather than necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 08:20 AM
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unilateral suicide certainly would be terrible, but I'm also a believer in being non-aggressive about treating diseases based on what the patient wants, and even assisted suicide in various cases. If you are so ill and in pain that staying alive is utter torture (all this in the context of having a terminal illness - the mental illness debate on assisted suicide is SOOO much more complicated and I don't even feel I can address it) then you should have the option to go. But in most of the cases I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 03:02 PM
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I agree. Both examples come from societies or societal sub-groups in which all of these behaviors are strongly reinforced by their internal morality and, more or less, social isolation, and I might say at least in the context of the FLDS a complete distrust of the entire outside world. The FLDS at least is certainly a cult.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 02:43 PM
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I posted here a little bit but I'm rereading the question, and I think maybe I need to restate a few things. I personally believe that whatever criteria you've set for judging people as your potential partner is OK. If you do not want a partner who has been promiscuous, that is totally A-OK. If you want your potential partner to wear red lipstick every day and love it, that's totally cool. shape your sexual and romantic life just as you like as long as you are doing so with consenting adults and…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 02:37 PM
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Why have that assumption? It's anecdotal in my experience - what I've personally observed in my life and the lives of friends, etc. I've also read about it in the popular psych literature but have by no means read any scholarly papers about it. I can try to find some but I was speaking about this as my own personal guideline for assessing people, not a standard that the entirety of society should adhere to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 02:16 PM
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this is correct. not all may-December relationships are like that, obviously. but when I see anyone, male or female, who consistently romantically pursues the very young and/or very inexperienced, I do generally assume they are seeking someone who has less experience and is more pliable, more suggestible to pressure. edited to add: and this is more about seeing a pattern of that happening, than a one-off relationship. If youth is the most important thing you're looking for in relationships, why …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 02:07 PM
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I guess I wasn't just thinking of polygamy only, but polyamory too, and other forms of multiple marriage / legalized polyamory. but yes, you are correct, this occurs, which you see in the microcosm of FLDS churches/communities in which young boys are literally cast out so as to reduce competition for available young women for the few older men in power. Overall I think FLDS is a great example of the way in which polygamy practiced in conjunction with religion and high social control truly exploi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 01:57 PM
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yuck. who would want to get married when it's viewed like that? essentially women are lifetime whores that men have bought and paid for in that view. not appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:59 AM
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pure financial welfare isn't more important than the people you love. yes, it's important to be able to eat and have a roof over your head but having intact hearts and souls is way more important than lots of extra money. Just something to think about. if you want to be severe about it, I would think either parent would choose their kids if it were a matter of staying with their partner or everyone starving, but most of the time it doesn't come down to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:52 AM
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oh man, this makes me sad. your wife and kids would want to stay with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:33 AM
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oh, ok. I don't see any problem with that. The problem is that that kind of thing only tends to occur in societies in which it is vitally important that everyone get married - ie, you are an outcast if you don't get married. which I think is not really American society anymore. I think marriages, when it was more important that everyone got married, were in some ways more societally arranged than they are now. when men and women couldn't interact as much there were a lot more 'official' types of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:18 AM
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but people debating you does not equal people fucking you. generally.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:12 AM
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but...what if people don't want to get married? why should everyone have an arranged marriage? is it just for having kids to build up a good revenue base?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:06 AM
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in theory I'm not opposed to plural marriage at all, but legal enforcement gets complicated. That's not a good reason not to allow it, of course. In reality, it seems like it is so often polygamy of the icky, child-molesting kind. If it could be assured that plural marriage could truly happen only among consenting adults who were not brainwashed into it I would have no problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 06:04 AM
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you can judge promiscuity, I don't care. I personally don't see anything wrong with it for men or women as long as they are ethical about it. I definitely judge people who consistently date teenagers or near-teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 03:36 AM
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I should clarify a bit. I have issues when men or women date people who a way younger than them, who are also not really adults yet. so, if a 25 year old always dates 18 year olds, that's a little suspect to me, whether it's a man or woman dating a much younger man or woman. it changes depending on the age of both parties - my husband and I met when I was 29 and he was 40. I was significantly younger, but I was old enough to have been in several relationships and have a lot of life experience. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 03:17 AM
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That's hard to say - sometimes I do judge a person's sexual history. It is really based on the context. I don't judge anyone for having sex, but I might judge someone negatively for only dating people significantly younger than them, for example. That's kind of judging their sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 02:06 AM
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Here's a theory about the promiscuity-divorce link; assuming this is only true for women, women who have had more partners are more secure getting a divorce because they know they can get another partner? that's a positive take on it, and that's assuming the promiscuous woman is always the one initiating the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 11:03 PM
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I think this is pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 10:52 PM
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that they can't have in a relationship...nothing, really. same as for anyone. Nothing really changed that much when my husband and I got married, things changed a lot when we had kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/14 09:15 PM
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