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Define 'used to do'. If she tried some stuff and didn't like it, whatever. I've tried things in bed I didn't really like and won't do again. If she regularly engaged in sexual activities with another man she doesn't like or want to do with me, it's a sexual incompatibility issue and I would not marry her. I don't deserve to get to do things with her she doesn't like, but I do deserve to be the most sexually desired of her partners. Full stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 04:35 AM
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It takes not being prudish for no reason and more work than I want to put in for some deflowering fetish. I find most guys who really worry about pure women are pretty inexperienced themselves and worried about the ability to perform against anyone, including toys.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 04:25 PM
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No one is waiting for marriage without some sort of puritan religious ties or sexual hangups. Being unable to get a relationship to the point of sex by the time you're in the age range for my dating pool is going to come from a point of incompatibility somewhere along the line.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:52 AM
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If you can have the best sex of you're capable of one your first try you've peaked low. At the age of any girl I'd be interested in at this point, if you're a virgin still it's because of baggage, the inability to make a relationship work at a fundamental level, or you're religious in ways I don't want in a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 07:50 AM
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Chaste people typically don't lose that chaste mindset after marriage immediately. Virgins take a while to learn what they want and that can be tedious and boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:20 AM
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I think there's a false dichotomy here. I think most men who aren't virgins themselves want a woman with similar experience who gained said experience through healthy relationships. I don't want someone who doesn't know what they want, either by being inexperienced or by rotating through men unable to figure out what they want out of a long term partner. Multiple long term relationships that didn't work out but didn't leave a ton of baggage? Fine. Been there myself. Serial one night stands, or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:16 AM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 03:08 AM
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Either way, she's not representative of.... Functional adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:37 AM
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Not a troll post. Also, OP is a female. Most likely she's a dude pretending to be a woman. If she is a woman she's deeply misogynistic or nursing a lifestyle BDSM fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:34 AM
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This has to be a troll post. Even redpillers wouldn't frame shit like this. Because she was pressured (hell, or even willing) into doing anal once and didn't like it, somehow it's a failure of your own making for not pushing her until she says yes? That's the most fucked up shit I've read here in a while. And how is it the Redpillers here haven't tried things they haven't liked before? Done things they've decided not to do again? Do you just eat tendies all day and have boring sex? I've done a h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/21 02:21 AM
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It had better have been for 110 a month. But it was a decompression ritual and honestly I was in a bad relationships at the time. Steamroom, sauna, hottub, 3 pools, and a full gym suite can help keep you keep your mind off things a little too well.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 09:04 AM
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I used to hit the gym 4 hours a day 4 days a week, but a large portion of that was steam room, laps, sauna and shower.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 07:00 AM
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What part of aggressiveness means you have to be an asshole. The non-aggressive men are going to miss every shot they don't take. Doesn't mean the dudes taking initiative are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/19 09:28 PM
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I love how you think friendliness and small talk is arrogant. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 11:28 PM
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No. Guys on the right side of assertive get laid more often. Guys who are willing to put themselves into positions to get laid more often get laid more often. I guarantee Roosh would get laid more often if his personality wasn't crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:26 PM
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Not directly, probably not. But helping dudes stop being toxic, angry, and flippant probably has helped indirectly. Sex is a natural outcome of existence for most people. If you are having issue with getting it you normally need some form of self improvement, which Menslib does better than TRP hands down. TRP is all about beung blamey, angry, and anxious about being a 90s action dude all the time. It's gotta be a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 09:18 PM
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AKA, is reserved and "polite".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 08:37 PM
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Being borderline alcoholics witn social anxiety isn't exactly being agressive or assertive. The average Brit still can't socialize with strangers like Americans shut-ins can.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:35 PM
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Being assertive and outgoing aren't toxic though. Americans are way less reserved and "polite" and yet they aren't by default toxic. Like, the British are socially anxious as a culture in same ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:34 PM
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This is what has never been the case in the history of the world. Except it has been. And neither does anyone believe this in menslib. This is a strawman. You do. You have been banning people for even saying he should not be denied until after an investigation. This, too, is a strawman. Notice that the cases you mentioned had investigations attached. It wasn't "roll forward with investigations and firings" - you are arguing with a figure that does not exist. The SHU students were expelled and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:29 PM
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That's literally never been the case in the history of the world. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/sports/keith-mumphery-michigan-state.html https://www.theroot.com/white-woman-who-falsely-accused-2-black-football-player-1828591038 3 black men who lost everything after winning in court. Literally happened this year in the history of this world. When your friend comes to you and says "a stranger stole my car!" you don't call her a liar. You believe her and help her find her car. No. I tell her …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:11 PM
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Lol. How Japanese are you, Mr. Gonzo? And it's definitely a hatred of women that drives people to ideas like redpill and the average men's rights poster. Hampstering? Hypergamy? The idea women are incapable of love equal to a man? You guys are the Dworkin of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 05:03 PM
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And thus you're fine with that social thing putting two young black men 30k in debt and losing them their chance at higher education and putting another black man out of the dream he sacrificed so much for. Their consequences were social and the effect of immediately aligning all social powers to not only believe the allegations at an investigative level, but on a social and reaction level. The presumption of innocence must be cultural if it is to mean anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:58 PM
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You wouldn't, but I'm pretty sure Menslib would like to see Keith Mumphry and the SHU boys in jail. You guys are currently taking the BelieveWomen thing into parody territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:51 PM
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Idk. I love my cock and being a man. I just don't blame women for being shitty at it. It's helps that I'm proficient at it, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:46 PM
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Oh no! I've actually treated women like people and looked at the problems in society as being more than women's fault! What ever will I do with all this sex and lack of negative impact on my life it had. You guys are asking dumbasses like Rouche V for help with sex and that man can't even function as an adult. Menslib is far too politically purifying, but it's a fuck ton better than blind, desperate, losers leading blinder, deafer, losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:45 PM
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Ok: 'I don't like Hybrid cars.' 'WhY aRe YoU CaLlinG aLL CaRs HyBRud!?' 'I am allergic to walnut pancakes.' 'YoO fOooking LiER! That BLUE BRrRy Pancake DiDn't kiLL yOu YoU PanCake HaTEr!' 'You shouldn't drink septic water.' 'ThEN yOU woUlD die frOm Not drinkin' WaaaaTer idIOt!' Maybe redpillers would be better at getting girls if their grasp of what adjectives are was better than completely lacking.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 04:41 PM
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Yeah. The people who don't need the internet to tell them how to fake being confident by acting like a massive tool to get dates toootally get laid less often. I'd be willing to bet that the redpillers post more erotic fiction than real action. I've seen redpillers in action and they've bemoaned I'm the one in my friend group who has relations with women to my face. They've also had more luck when they stopped trying to be douche 90s stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/18 07:15 AM
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There is a reason the golden one is a Nazi.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 08:32 PM
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Says the group who can't get their dicks wet and blame a cabal of women because they get sex and don't want to give up being better than the average redpiller to clean his house. Redpiller philosophy is textbook fascist talk about women's place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 04:58 PM
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I wouldn't really care because I can enjoy a girl Au Naturel, but I'd have to check to see if she's been replaced by a pod person because she very much dislikes being unshaven. It's not a deception.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 07:30 PM
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Bus tubs get heavier than 40 pounds and brick masonry? Really? Lifts do most of the heavy lifting if you're meeting OSHA regs and laying is more tedious than work. Concrete is a bit worse, but mostly supplier side, and the majority of the suckage is from running all day with the lesser weight with few breaks. Something waiters and Nurses do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:35 PM
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I work in construction. I do heavy lifting. If you think nursing, waitressing, and package delivery don't involve hard labor, you're either entirely unfit for whatever construction labor you think you do or you've never worked construction.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:31 PM
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Hi. I work construction. 10-12 hour days are pretty regular anymore. Some of us hit 60ish hour every week all summer. Don't know what that has to do with cleaning the house though. Honestly, I clean more than my SO if we include dishes and the litter boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:28 PM
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Save a large number of transmission issues, the need for basic maintenance, and major rust and recall issues. The reliable Toyota meme is far more powerful than it should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:25 PM
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As someone who likes smart, driven women, me thinks her issue has less to do with feminism and more to do with personality. Being an elitist asshole isn't the same as being smart or driven.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 05:41 PM
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Like... Do I have to actually spell it out? Women are incapable of not sleeping with a chad and hamstering about it? Women are emotionally children? Women can't love like a man? There's very little that TRP says that isn't misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 07:42 PM
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...a lot of Blue Pill folks out here trying to convince intelligent men that most women are innocent, chaste, wholesome and good people, and are sitting around in church praying for the Lord to "send them a Good Man." That's not true...we know many women are out her passing themselves around to different men and then lie in order to downplay their past or current promiscuity - all while trying to convince men that N-Count doesn't matter...it matters. Pro Tip: Be a wife or be a pass-around chick.…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:08 PM
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27m, lean blue: Self improvement and taking women off a pedestal is 90 percent of what people need to get sex. There are enough feminist identifying women who are in it for selfishness and hatred that they get platforms sometimes. Masculinity is something people can and do desire, for better or worse. Unfortunately, RP wraps up a lot of crazy, misogynistic crap in it's advise.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/18 06:03 PM
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Which is your prerogative, but I don't see how your attraction to said people has any bearing on the topic at hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/18 02:13 AM
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Health at every size. Once a good concept, now convinced that there is a set size for everyone and you cannot lose weight healthily.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 11:26 PM
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They do those things under threat of their BF doing that weird negging thing or being all petulantly mopey again. A male need for control isn't articulated when he pulls out the chains or rape, it's when he needs to pull out tactics to get his way. Many men fail to get the control they need, as do many women. Doesn't mean they don't need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:39 PM
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It's the filtering of reality through the mind of an angry TradCon that can't even nail down a marriage. There's about as much reality ignored in that mind set as a set point haes activist blog after joining planet fitness for a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:34 PM
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Let's see: That nice guy thread on AskReddit had tons of posts about dudes wanting women to do things like remove tattoos and do things for them. My ex had exes who tried to make her be their mom. My current GF's ex would get pissed every time she spent time with someone else to the point he'd accuse her of cheating for hanging out with his sister and made her sit in the corner in an uncomfortable stool for 8 hours so he could keep an eye on her while he played WarHammer. TRP advocates taking de…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:23 PM
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If the women you see and date are all lunatics the common denominator is you. You don't see women murder suiciding their SO or shooting up schools nearly as often.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 06:17 PM
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I mean, I guess that's true, in the same way Jewish dislike of Nazis is, like, emotional man. It's not the packaging that always kills a message, sometimes it's the meta. Sometimes it's the actual message. TRP wraps up a lot of petulant anger at Women and things Women choose to do in a loose package of truths like 'Women want to have sex with attractive men' and 'young people with short term goals care about different things than older people with long term goals' and 'Trying something cringy an…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/18 05:39 AM
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An alternative to TRP would mean accepting faults and personal failings instead of pretending to while blaming women and our culture. Most of TRP doesn't seem to want to accept that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:16 PM
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So these men are turning to a sub that's all about focusing on only their happiness, and being seethingly angry, dehumanizing, and vile toward women because they are sometimes not Altruistic towards certain men, because those big bad feminists and SJWs and women aren't making sex a charity?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/18 11:13 PM
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That's a weird opinion which has very little basis in fact. Just because redpillers in their 30s are unable to have relationships with women who aren't much younger or stunted doesn't mean all large age gaps are seen as bad by bluepill.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/17 09:35 PM
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All I can say is I'm not red pill and I'm a nerdy nice person and I've turned down sex more often than I have been turned down and I've never been involuntarily single. I've also had redpillers try and edge into my relationships and they've gotten nowhere. Some of the redpill may overlap with workable tools, but they are not the end all be all to success nor are they really justifiable. Plus, misogyny hurts your game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/17 07:36 PM
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Not the way TRP defines it. TRP defines abusive control and gaslighting as 'dominant'. Most women like assertive men who can take control, but that ain't RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 10:19 PM
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I have, but I also have no problem choosing after someone says IDK or IDC and I also date women with tastes and opinions. We normally walk from genre choices into place choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 08:09 PM
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Feminism has a mixture of good and bad ideas, and super great ideas, and it doesn't have the power to push super awful ideas. Most of it's bad ideas get pushed by remnants of patriarchal ideas about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 07:14 PM
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That lack of maturity is a class and schooling issue that isn't only in "feminists". It's pretty common in any kids who went straight to college and work with only abstractions. Have you met a lot of tech grads? Whiny babies who can't be held to basic levels of professionalism often enough. That's a big source of redpill recruitment for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:37 PM
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No. I do not. I am aware of why I was unsuccessful with women when I was an early teen and did something about it. I didn't tell myself lies about the greater meaning of women having standards in order to be comfortable with my own inadequacy like TRP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:21 PM
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Which ones? Dworkin wasn't a child, as full of anger as she was. Dines maybe was a bit super sheltered. Or have you never actually read any of the strawmen you rail on? Edit: autocomplete love edgy atheists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:15 PM
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Only because "nice" has nothing to do with actually being nice. It's dressing up character flaws as something cute when in reality most of the guys are selfish and passive aggressive. It's why trp can't even let women have a say in dinner plans. It's either total lack of agency or total control. They can't see how someone is assertive but still a team player and open to sharing ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 06:13 PM
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That's a childish response so I think you know where I stand on the reliability of that metric. Honestly, the whole of redpill is a childish temper tantrum/dress up for men who can't really deal with the real world without an ideology that makes it someone else's fault in my eyes. Sure, a lot of college aged girls who identify as feminist are childish brats, but becoming their polar opposite doesn't make it any better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:54 PM
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RedPill is the equivalent of anti-vaxxer science. Taking them sweet sweet Facebook posts, racy fanfics, and unreproducible studies and building and empire out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:13 PM
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Infantilized women maybe. Infantilizing women is something redpill wants though, so they literally want to exacerbate a problem they complain about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:10 PM
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The only people who "know" redpill "truths" are the ones who watched way too many 80s movies as a kid and formed a life outlook on them. Redpill gets some things right, but they make these huge jumps that become this ideologically toxic framework. Women like to sleep with attractive people. People not getting laid like to throw negative character traits at people who do. Being a dick or an asshole won't get you laid, but after it won't completely stop you from getting laid. Redpillers use this a…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/17 05:07 PM
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Health at every size.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 11:24 PM
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You are confusing HAES extremism with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:50 PM
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You are making the claim that, because they serve a designed evolution role, women will just stop being attracted to Tom Hiddleston or Zack Effron if that becomes the new average. Women are the selectors because they are driven to mate with things they are attracted to. If everyone was a super hunk they'd still find superhunks attractive. You are claiming they would adapt and become a genetic bottleneck just because the way things are happens to make them one now. Their genetic role wasn't plann…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:48 PM
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You don't get how nature works, do you? What is up with this whole 'intelligent design' thing red pill seems to have accepted? Women don't just shut off their ovaries when the attractive ratio changes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/17 03:09 PM
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So first off, redpill equates women having standards as women being catty evil spoiled children. It's an over reaction to being asked to do more than exist to get dates. You don't have to view women having opinions as shit tests or being an oozing misogynist to meet some standards. Secondly, if you lose all your gains in a month and can't treat a woman like a person and still get dates that really more on you than "the wokeness of redpill". Also, since when is health and fitness against the femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/17 01:58 PM
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No one but parents love unconditionally, and that's somewhat of a rarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/17 04:21 PM
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You know, I come here somewhat to be productive and somewhat because r/Iamverybadass comments like this get posted and sometimes I need a good laugh. That poster is so dressed up in machismo and fake internet success that it's funny. If we don't let posts like that fly, though, I think we'd lose a lot of redpiller perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/17 10:22 PM
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I don't read much Dr. nerdlove, but from what I have read is a little bit too guilt filled. Redpill isn't healthy, but I don't really think Nerdlove is a step totally in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 05:36 PM
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Eeeeh. Friendly teasing and negging I see as fundamentally different. Teasing isn't supposed to be taken seriously but negging is suppose to make women feel uncomfortable and feel like she needs to 'prove' herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/17 05:34 PM
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Brains exist to exist and by accident and natrual selection got good at survival. You're arguing intelligent design. Also, by that merit, being socially accepted and interesting made for better survival in humans. That had little to do with Black Pill evolutionary cheek bones and hunting the best mate a lot of the times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 09:06 PM
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You're making a fundamental mistake that Evo-Psych makes by assigning meaning to beneficial outcomes. We reproduce well because we like sex, but the reasons we like sex are varied and tied into a lot of mammalian needs and desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 08:39 PM
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Smoog argues against his own thesis in the subsequent posts because he assumes that 'rational actions' are only chasing better babies when in fact it's chasing a lot of things because short term rationalization might be for any number of things. Further, sexual fetshes that don't aid in reproduction are not rare. They are mundane. 60 percent of men want to squirt their seed down the shitter. Why? Because sex is about more than just the best genetic material meeting the best genetic material. It'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 08:20 PM
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Which directly contradicts your thesis of women only cheating for the select reasons you outlined and sex being about 1 thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:52 PM
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A rational behavior decision-making process is based on making choices that result in the most optimal level of benefit or utility for the individual whether that is short-term or long-term. A drug addict is still making a rational decision, because to him, the optimal level of benefit is getting drugs so he is not sick. Exactly why women and men cheat and have sex for reasons beyond basic reproduction, because sex is for more than that in human society. People sleep with less desirables to puni…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:51 PM
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And a lot of science backs the idea that we rationalize previous action more often than we plan rationally. The rational actor theory is a hotly debated idea that we do some of our modeling on. It's not settled science and it isn't the backbone of social science.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 07:26 PM
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Kinks are common, and show up in a large part of the population because sex plays a larger role than reproductive agency in human society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:37 PM
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Because social psychology and economics requires you to assume rationality. Stopped reading there. You are way out of your depth bud. Why we lack reason is a major undertaking in those fields. Edit: and before 'rational choice theory', it doesn't share the definition you think it does. Kinks, preferences, and personal variances are valid in that idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:24 PM
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So, uh, what part of mating is the brain trying to get at when it wants it's balls stepped on, or gets turned on by popping balloons, or when it wants to pee on someone? The idea you put forward is laughable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/17 06:23 PM
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Ha. So an error rate of 30 percent on an assumed low-ball and the statistical Trainwreck of half of all marriages ending in divorce? Looks like a great source to me. /s https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/17 08:20 AM
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There is no long term malicious feminine ploy in pretending that their gender conforms to artifical purity ideas created by society. They are just taking the opportunity to imply to themselves and other that their shit don't stink, just like men would. I've never gotten the red pill thing about realizing women have character flaws being blown up into a stupid rabbit hole conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:13 AM
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Go on a date and treat the wait staff like shit. See where that gets you. Pro-tip, it won't win you anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/17 05:44 AM
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Chubby chasers are proof that women don't need to try to find people? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/17 02:32 PM
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I don't do casual sex, but I've turned it down with all my beta traits. Sure, the motorcycle and cheekbones help, but I don't lack the beta traits when I interact with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 10:57 PM
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Still waiting on that loss to access to sex with all my beta decisions to be a supportive partner and thoughtful friend. The reason that the whole idea is stupid is because it assumes a false dichotomy and that women don't find attraction in anyone who holds up their end of the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/17 06:03 PM
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You know, the idea that advertising precautions is victim blaming is stupid, but I don't think people in this thread realize how drunk is rape drunk. Having sex with someone that drunk is definitely a problem warranting prosecution, and no amount of stupid college groups saying that any alcohol is rape will make is so legally.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 04:50 PM
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I feel pity for anyone who needs that kind of suffering of an imaginary no name woman to feel better at night just long enough to remember how utterly disgusting that kind of misogyny is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 01:45 AM
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It's similar in that it involves a beginning, middle, and end, there's normally sex, and she is a woman..... Beyond that? This dude is off his rocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/17 03:06 PM
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Emotionally shallow infantilized women may and do. If only there was some sort of social movement aimed at making sure women aren't coddled or infantilized. Hrrrrrmmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/17 04:39 PM
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This is the wrong way to frame the conversation I think. Everyone who lives deserves sex, love, and affection. It's not something you need to earn. So all women deservey attention. I don't owe it to anyone though, and the list of women who I want to give it to gets shorter every day. So I owe myself to no women..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/17 03:17 AM
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Men running to the defense of women from an illegal act is romanticized history. It didn't really happen more than today. Violent and sexual crimes are waaaaay down. It's dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 06:49 AM
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If you feel shame about having a negative view of women that's on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 04:03 AM
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See, you randomly shouting that doesn't mean anything because it isn't true. I don't spend my time telling other dudes they don't have individual traits that run contrary to my twisted idea of manhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/17 02:03 AM
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No. It's a word used to describe feelings about women as a class which are hateful or dehumanizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 05:52 PM
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There is nothing in the rules against calling out misogyny in worldviews or how they might influence how you interact evidence you place here. There are, however, rules about whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:58 PM
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You take away their personal experiences and feeling to shove them in your 'female behavioral box'. This place isn't a safe space for claims made about the female sex, and we've interacted enough times that it's become a pattern. You are claiming evidence based on the multitudes of women you know so very very well. Most women will not spend any time with someone who treats them like you treat female posters here. Ergo, your pool isn't going to reflect healthy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:42 PM
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You constantly attack women and poeple in general here. That is in no way a personal attack. You don't get to talk to the women here and tell them how they really are without being called on it. You're misogynistic and it influences the experiences you supply as evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:35 PM
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You are misanthropic, misogynistic, and tend towards condescending. Despite the claims that most people make about being able to hide their highschool edge, people can see through it and tend to avoid people like that. The kinds of people left who don't are typically desperate, abusive, or outcasts who don't meet the mean of equal relationship or sex standards. You pool isn't representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 04:20 PM
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I have a feeling most people with realistic RMVs and SMVs don't frequent your social circles much.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/17 03:03 PM
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The fact that you can't talk about the men getting laid without being stupidly hyperbolic about how unemployed and failed they are is proof you are using the whole RP thing as an excuse and a crutch.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:11 PM
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No. Tastes do legit change. I want different kinds of women than I did at 18. The same is true for women. And I know those pesky laws that make it illegal to exercise, lift weights, or have hobbies in stem fields are so misandrist. If only we could repeal them!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:09 PM
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You choose to see that. Nerdy dudes can lift. They can run. They can be confident. My lifting partner has a physics degree. I ride a motorcycle, lift, and work for an engineering firm while I'm finishing my degree. And you know what? Those masculine traits have hurt my chances with some women before. I'm with my current SO because of my softer traits in fact. And lol at the idea that masculine men are unemployed and not able to make a living wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 03:05 PM
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Most women are fucking bad boys and players who've fucked everyone else in their "friend" group. The guys they fuck are frequent drug users, frequently jobless or living paycheck to paycheck, and all around douchebag assholes. Hah. No. No they are not. This is a coping mechanism not some truth bomb. What part of being attractive even plays into being jobless or working bad jobs? The part that let's the "nerd" "nice" guy assume the dudes getting sex must be losers who don't "deserve it."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/17 02:07 PM
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Because western storytelling is all about moralizing everything, including female sexual selection, and every hero is a loser nerd turned badass now because that demographic loves to be catered to with persecution to bootknocked virgin stories. Not only is it the continuation of the just World fallacy idea that strong people unattractive people have to lack intelligence and moral fiber, it's the perpetuation of a victim complex as well. The big strong sexy guy that the woman falls for is always …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 10:31 PM
1

I'd argue that that method of teaching breeds shallow rationalizing and learned helplessness instead of giving these men tools. Taking women off of pedestal be a one-step process. Trp turns it into a ritualized mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:29 PM
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Morals of a society change with regard to the reality of said society. Most people are decent so therefore most women are decent. You are seeing a group of people do something you don't like and attacking everyone with the same sex as being like them. You are also holding women to a dumb standard by making changing their standards out to be some sort of thing they need to justify lest they be evil. By merely being alive we change our wants and needs every day. Getting older does that too. Your a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:27 PM
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So does everyone though. What we want changes with time and experience. TRP's sin is the fact that they use the universal rule of change and the fact women have more choices sexually to crucify the image of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 08:23 PM
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Statstics and Criminology actually. You people are lost in this sad dressing up of drama with the lexicon of logical arguments. There aren't enough felons or biker drug dealers to fuck all these alleged squirrel women. I'm sorry you went through that, but that's a call to reevaluate your partner choices, not proof women just run around to felons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 07:49 PM
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As people get older priorities change partially because their experience gives then different taste. I like different kinds of women than I did when I was 19. Hell, I like different kinds of sushi after spending decades learning what I liked. Funny thing is, I'm back with my highschool sweetheart because we both changed and became what we wanted when she got back from college. TRP has a very socially retarded view on the way this dynamic changes because it doesn't mean women aren't attracted to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:51 PM
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There are mature women and then there are train wrecks looking to sponge money and emotions. The two groups are mutually exclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:47 PM
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I highly doubt that any, much less most of the women who have turned you down in the past have been fucking drug dealers and violent felons. Statistically, TRP imagines an impossible world of movie cliches. Plus, I don't think you've met many dealers if you think most of them are tough sexy badboys. I've only met skinny nerdy dealers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/17 05:46 PM
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I'm sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 05:12 PM
1

Only 131? That's good enough of a number for you to just flat out have no other meaningful accomplishments?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/17 03:59 PM
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Nice guys, neck beards, and TRP are different animals. I'm first in line to call out justneckbeardthings and the like, but TRP is a community that creates, feeds, and validates a hatred and dehumanizing of women. It isn't the value of the men being lampooned.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:08 AM
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You know, typically I'm pretty on board with calling out hate in progressive spaces, but like... It's TRP we're talking about. A circle jerk mock sub is slightly less profane and angry than what is suppose to be this huge positive group for giving advice to men. TBP is being mean to people being mean to women because they can't get laid. I'm sorry, but that's a reach in severity.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/17 07:06 AM
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It's their version of playing dress up at their woman hating club nights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 07:01 PM
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See, no. I don't browse BP but I consider myself part of the fold. I know my muscles, motorcycle, and cheekbones are a reason why I'm as successful as I am. I just also accept women are more than some harpue screeching for Chad's and money while plotting emotionally driven sociopath plans. The reason I got the girl I'm with now isn't because of my physical or dominate features. It's because I remembered her in ways her BF at the time hadn't bothered to learn and I treated her with support and as…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/17 06:54 PM
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ahh yes, UC status is based on living in an area where walls are expensive to replace /s. who gives a fuck. wait.. are you a wall repairman or some LC construction worker or some shit fuckin lol. seriously stop trying to imply you have some insider connections to powerful UC circles. it's obvious that you're just some low status nobody who likes to LARP that he is successful. I'm from a family whose members are politically connected lawyers and generational businessmen. I'm not larping at anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 04:13 AM
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Suuuuuure there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 03:53 AM
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it's extremely easy to spot the people who've actually been around UC society and know what they're talking about and the losers who have never even been around UC people and are just pulling things out of their ass. you should stop posting. it's very cringey. I'm from an area where walls can cost upwards of a few hundred K to replace. I have family who interact in politics and are on short call list for powerful people. UC people are people, so they react negatively​ to dumbass edgelords who th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/17 12:29 AM
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The thing that makes redpill so ridiculously silly is it consistently comes off as being plagued by lack of real world experience or any basic sort of empathetic cognition. The most alpha people in the world play by a rulebook in upper class society because they have to. Getting what you want involves playing games. The very idea that this is somehow beta loser territory because they aren't fulfilling the idea of banging some go nowhere RP pipedream waitress is absurd.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 11:25 PM
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The man is not a successful business man by many measure, and I'll pass on success through the willful ignorance of a generation of dying sacks of regretful outrage. It takes a very very dumb individual to lose the support of millitary families as a republican.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 10:28 PM
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I'm assuming you think the retarded Oompaloopa is super Alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:39 PM
1

'Hah. The leader of a massive European power and everyone in that country are fucking weak because they don't post on mah internet tough guy board.' God, this thread is good.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:37 PM
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Seriously? People running the world, messing with billions every day, and rubbing shoulders with ruling class are not alpha enough for you because they aren't popping collars and banging losers with big tits? Sounds like a game of king of the hill for rights to rule the garbage can.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 09:34 PM
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Hey, I'm from a family that ping ponged from LMC to very very UMC, and I work in a very blue collar field right now, and most people get the social games even in LMC. The ignorance you seem to be getting from terpers mostly seems to come from the idea that angrily declaring dumb ideas backed by moody teen self absorbtion is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:52 PM
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Or D&D, cars, BBQ, video game, and other dude stuff is awesome and they just like it. Seriously, one wonders why TRP is full of guys who are so bad they can't even date but this kind of stuff is what comes out of there.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/17 08:20 PM
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Who said they wanted boring guys who think they can use the leverage of not beating them and getting basic politeness to get in their pants?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:38 PM
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I don't believe that. I was raised to be kind, nice, and caring to everyone, but that didn't mean not advocating for my own needs, being healthy, and being interesting. Where did anyone say they wanted unhealthy dudes with poor social skills, no adventurous hobbies, and no confidence? Most guys I see called asshole and douchebags are really decent dudes without a lack of direction or a terrifying fear of life. Fuck, I've been called an asshole douchebag for getting sex and being assertive and I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:36 PM
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Please don't try to use Randian Objectivism to justify being a redpill narcissist. 1. It doesn't work. 2. It's way too edgy. Worrying about your own needs does not make you an asshole, not everyone is an asshole, and self-sufficiency is not selfishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 05:27 PM
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You know, I'd respond to this, but you made a 'While you were being blue pill, I studied the blade (and learned everything to ever learn in QM and every field by reading mah books)' post earlier. I don't think there is much chance of this being productive. Haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:33 PM
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What conditioned a hoard of men to be super cringy and boring?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:57 AM
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So your idea is that those who communicate and express their emotions don't get laid but assholes do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:54 AM
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A redpiller is an r/Iamverysmart post? What? How could that be!? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 01:50 AM
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An analysis of a field that lauds Kanazawa and had one of the worst reproducibility out of any science followed by a list of men that prove that getting laid is only as hard as being anything but the kind of dude who posts on redpill. Thanks Bravo. Given enough time I'll dig through this, but the means and methods already look suspect, especially considering most of sociology and psychology differs from evo-psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/17 12:07 AM
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See I can kind of agree there, but it also is couched pretty heavily in patriarchal patronizing of women. Some feminists embrace the value that comes there, but a lot of others fight against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/17 08:23 PM
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An issue with a group of feminists or some women always gets blown up to some secret illuninati plot to cuck all men, and somehow these world crushing secret plots are created by bluehaired baby snowflakes who live off parteon. It's hilariously tinfoily.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:58 PM
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A year ago I would have said that no way no how, but recently I've​ gotten into a relationship where we have talked about sharing an occasional third party. Nothing alone. Both of us are capable of getting side action though. Beyond that though, this article is pretty much trumped up emotional abuse and cheaters mixed in with some pretty unhealthy relationships. Open relationships work for some people, but you do owe your SO not to be a dick and do it by fiat. One thing I can give red pill, is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/17 09:40 PM
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Uuuh. No. I do not picture making pissy violent gestures if my SO "challenges" me on anything. TRP has this weird idea about having a supportive submissive woman without earning it, and it's really very pathetic. If your woman is worth shit she will sometimes challenge you. If she does it too much she may be a bad partner, or you may just be a pathetic manchild worth challenging. Either way, if it drives you into imaginary touch-guy land you really don't deserve being respected in the first plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/17 08:29 AM
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Being emotionally retarded makes thing hard for you guys, I get it, but encouraging it is just unfair to the nature of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:47 PM
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Late 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:38 PM
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Old enough to realize dudes on the spectrum who get dating advice from other deficient people on the internet usually make crappy lovers. Experienced enough to have evidence for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:32 PM
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Touche.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:26 AM
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You don't fake tremors and losing balance 40 minutes later. have you fucked many trp men? I only fuck literal pussies, so no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 02:26 AM
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Just saying, typically redpill type men suck tremendously at sex. Having been the best sex any of my partners have ever had within the second time kind of cements that for me. I'm not a chad, but I have no issue getting laid, and those skills do transfer to the bedroom and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 01:03 AM
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You know, it's fair that progressive circles do harbor shaming for male sexuality in a perversely unfair way still, but TRP being an abusive, mewling, and down right pathetic attempt at getting sex is another matter entirely. Casual sex isn't bad. Being conniving and unfair to get it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 01:01 AM
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Having fucked women after 'redpill' leaning men, hehe.... Hehehe.... Hehehehe. When you are good at sex you typically don't need an internet spectrum society to get laid. Women talk and enough of them want easy sex. Bravado dudes typically are compensating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/17 12:53 AM
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Not really true. Just because the TERFs 'lost' the sex wars doesn't mean they aren't pretty common in other walks of life. Most radfems actually run parallel to part of terf ideology. Check out gender critical sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:37 PM
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While I agree that MRA hubs are kind of awful at stats, your stat refutation links for rape and DV are actually an example of feminist voices perpetuating patriarchal ideas about rape, don't actually prove what they claim they do, and have been in turn proven to be wrong by further research and trends of growing female initiative. The writer of WHTM is actually apologetic to the idea of women raping men not actually counting if you read the comments, and thus his argument of 'the MRAs got jumped…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/17 08:35 PM
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I haven't been manipulated, add reading comprehension to the list of problems you have. I'm not insulting you through that. I'm calling out your bullshit subjectivism defense. Your willingness to lie to someone, sell them shitty goods on that lie, and consider it the same as persuasion through positive means makes you not an ethical egoist, but trash. Subtle differences there.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:14 AM
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Well now you're just being hyperbolic and disingenuous. Here we are discussing convincing someone to do something with words, which is very obviously different from drugging someone. The slang for this these days is "finesse." Not words, but actions meant to unsettle and cause emotional harm. Dread game doesn't use words until like step 7. No because, as I said above, that's not convincing someone to do something with words. A better example would be taking a guy who doesn't want kids then talki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:10 AM
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I take it you've never studied ethics before, and by-the-by, Objectivism isn't Rand's baby, it's a name she gave Ethical Egoism. Objectivism is the belief in objective moral principles, and most ethical frameworks fall into it, but here you are proving the whole 'black and white' thesis from a week ago. Bravo. You should march right down to whoever sold you your car and your house and deliver this lecture to them, not me. Color me surprised a person with no moral or rational value doesn't unders…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 10:05 AM
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That post really hit the nail on the head. I used to feel bad for the guys who sought out redpill, but the gleeful way they justify being abusive and rapey really just shot that idea execution style.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:35 AM
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This thread is a very good example of the spectrum style thought processes at play in the community. Idk how the dread steps beyond six can be seen as anything but irrational and angry codependence. You can't get what you want through honest conversation? Leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:15 AM
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This is where you start wondering if redpill thinks Rohypnol is persuasion, and start leaning toward yes. If we use the logic you put forward here, purposefully getting pregnant by going off the pill is the same thing morally as asking for someone to help you move. There is an empathetic and mutual benefit analysis done by decent people when persuasion is used. Manipulative behavior is expressly lacking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:08 AM
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One is the attempt to use negative, subconscious, and willing leverage against a person. One is the purposeful highlighting of positive choice. Your definitions of things is like saying borrowing and stealing 75 bucks is the same thing as long as they don't notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 09:00 AM
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Subjective ethical relativism is horseshit only highschoolers take seriously. Everyone has hard moral codes they think everyone should follow. Either defend the act of using purposefully negative emotional harm to get the shit you want or don't, but don't pull the relativism card. Is it wrong for someone to brutally rape and murder you and steal all your stuff? Congratulations, you're a form of Objectivist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/17 08:57 AM
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This thread has become a very good proof of these points. I was going to play devil's advocate on a couple of things, but damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/17 04:45 AM
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Doubtful. "Epigenetics" is the rebranding of environment to include some genetics, since the "everything is nurture" crowd is losing so badly despite having ten times the number of "researchers" working on maintaining their edifice of bullshit. There's probably some good stuff in epigenetics, but the narrative enforcers pretending to be academics damn sure aren't going to find it, because the chances that reality serves their ideology are almost certainly 0%. You're 30 years behind biology and n…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:25 PM
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Said the ignorant position.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:07 PM
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'Muh genetucs make me better but not the ham Planet fat!' Environment and epigenetics play a bigger role than manifest destiny genetics, and if stupid ideas about people had no effect on outcomes, we wouldn't see significant changes in the way people are evaluated when we made them anonymous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:05 PM
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They've shown that women and minorities get hired more, rated better, and treated more equally when behind anonymous names instead of ones that reveal their race and gender. You have more genetically in common with a black woman then a doberman has with an Australian Shepherd. Gaps in societal groups have more to do with cultural ideas, stereotype threat, and environment then any real Merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 08:00 PM
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Except that these unequal outcomes have nothing to do with merit and everything to do with dumb ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 07:09 PM
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3rd wave feminism is a poor description of what came out after the sex wars of the second wave, which the main stream is libfems. Sure, libfems can have their problems, but have you SEEN a terf radfem rant about maleness? Third wave feminism is the most humanizing equality movement of feminism pretty much ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/17 06:49 PM
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While I take issue with the premise of the above poster, we certainly do get pushed and push others into the trades. Trump got elected on bringing back trades. I would not be able to feed myself if I couldn't​ be punishing my body right now for 50-60ish hours a week, especially since I can't even afford to go to the school I wanted anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/17 06:45 AM
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Wow... Someone is actually so whacked out a backwards I think it's unfair to relate redpill to them. I think it's the end times. Also, that man needs some sort of mental health service infused hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:54 AM
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Wow... Someone is actually so whacked out a backwards I think it's unfair to relate redpill to them. I think it's the end times. Also, that man needs some sort of mental health service infused hug.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/17 05:54 AM
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Haha. That's brilliant. If I wasn't against against-subs without a counter that would have made me sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/17 11:10 PM
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My best action was being far skinnier than those guys. Women aren't as unrealistic as you think just because best and ideal don't always line up with what people get. Also, note, those bodies do not require roids. Exercise, diet, protein timing. Don't get me wrong, it's hard to get bodies like that, but the bulking ideas on TRP sound like someone who hasn't ever lifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/17 07:12 AM
1

Adventures and excitement can be cheap. New dives, drives, and rides can be had for not a lot of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/17 07:26 AM
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A certain amount lack of fitness comes with age though, and to hold unrealistic standards for aging is kind of unfair. Would saggy boobs be enough grounds to withold sex as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/17 10:18 PM
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You not only denied her lack of desire but lack of trying. That is an appeal to inevitably.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 10:08 PM
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Except you literally just got done denying the agency of a woman because she had to be trying to get chads and being stopped by outside influences/failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 09:36 PM
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Yes, I do. RP determinism conveys free will to men and any woman who chooses the red pill, but it also assumes the inevitability hypergamy, cock Carousel, and the attempt at riding Chad if external circumstances allow. Self exception does not preclude your adherence to determinist Style inevitability.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:29 PM
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Except you are telling a woman that the only reason she does anything is to breed with the best man she can..... You are literally arguing RP brand determinism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 04:24 PM
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You don't have the ability to grasp basic psychological concepts, but all people suffer from Stockholm syndrome, and that's bad for men. Edit: in the twisted idea of RP reproduction. Why are people gay, or do they commit suicide, or do they engage in high risk situations if the only driver is reproduction? The only reason evo-psych claims that there is only that driver is because it cannot fathom other drivers. It's an argument from a previous assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:54 PM
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Assuming all behaviors only happen in the most minmaxed, intellent, self-aware way is, in fact, strikingly similar intelligent design. There is a reason psychologists shun evo-psych.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:40 PM
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No. It's literally post-hoc crock most of the time, and assumes some sort of intelligent design in your brain. Evolution doesn't do anything for the good of survival, it does things because of mutation and a sticks around because things didn't die. Your brain didn't just play by some different set of self aware rules. We seek sex because it feels good. We seek a lot of things because they feel good. But we also seek and do dumb shit that doesn't help at all, like killing ourselves, drugs, thrill…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 03:31 PM
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You do realize evo-psych is quack science, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 02:36 PM
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Plenty of girls are interested in more than just getting high quality men, and honestly it makes them more attractive. A woman who can help fund a relationship and has her own self motivation is just more fun. Engines and shit are expensive, and sometimes it's nice to let someone else treat. Why is it so hard for TRP to grasp women are real people with more than just mating in their hearts and brains?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 08:53 AM
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Experience is the only way to fix those issues for a lot of people, and short not having sex in any of their relationships, how are women suppose to meet new people and grow? Sure, some people don't grow or gain from experience. Some use it to ferment bad habits. But being a perpetually single woman is not going to make someone a better partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 08:05 PM
1

Your assault wasn't your fault and this woman isn't being demeaned by you wanting her. You love each other, desire each other, and you are hurting her by denying her. Also, if that doesn't work out still do your coworker. That job sucked and she was hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/16 08:06 PM
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You can choose to believe or not. I'm not posting fap fuel or pics of women I've turned down. It'd be creepy. If your worldview can't believe men turn down sex from attractive chicks, you've got a deeper denial than pics could fix anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 05:06 PM
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First two aren't morally wrong. Last one is if done consciously. You don't need to be married to have kids. Marriage is a commitment and one you shouldn't enter into on the pretense of short term satisfaction. Treating people well isn't really that hard. Sure, you don't get your legal net quite as easily, but come on. Plus, there are tons of women capable of marriage for the long haul. If you don't want it then let them find one who does.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 12:46 AM
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That is an incredibly shallow understanding of flirting and chemistry. You can kill physical attraction super fast if you bumble it up, and having some shared vernacular and game helps. And again, people in bars are looking for shared things: attraction, hormones, and an ease of initiation. The dude who lifts and lives that game will win there. The bar may not be the best place for some people. It isn't for me for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:23 AM
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Just going out does not mean having hobbies, networks, and interesting things to share. Being real into videogames or D&D can get women to want to bang you. It's happened to me before. They have to be the right women. If a dude who only loves D&D crawls bars for girls who are looking for a shared interest in rum and crotch bumping, yeah, he's likely to lose out to the bar scene native. And sure, motorcycles and rock climbing and hot bodies are going to appeal to a broader audience, but I do not …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 01:13 AM
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I worked full time, played pathfinder weekly, worked on my car, played in it, and went to the bar a couple times a month and managed a 3.82 for a year and a half. What made me drop out was an accident that put me in a lot of debt and I started working 70-80 hours a week, and now I'm considering not finishing my civil engineering degree for a more lucrative trade. You can definitely balance work and fun. Sometimes it's faster to focus solely on school, but that's trading your sex life too. It isn…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 12:40 AM
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A lot of guys are satisfied with once or twice a week. I'm a nymph and I can live with that sometimes. It depends on how life is going. Work gets stressful, injuries hurt, sometimes cuddling and catching up on a TV show is just... Better.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:53 AM
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Wait... All women who have sex with dudes, and all dude who are bikers/adventures/fun loving are responsible for the dude who hit you? How is that fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:48 AM
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But that's super reductionist. Nerds can and do ride motorcycles, go to school, lift weights, and do things that are fun and interactive. It sounds like you're making excuses for being boring while young and using it to explain why some women get boring when they get old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:46 AM
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What is it with redpill and their obsession with bikers. I get more attention from dude on my cruiser than women. I mean, the gear gets looks, don't get me wrong, but it's such a bad sitcom stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 04:42 AM
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Uuuuh... It happened? What proof would anyone have to begin with?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:04 PM
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Maybe if you're really thirsty. As a man I've turned down some really really hot women because I didn't find their personality attractive. I've also dated women I normally wouldn't have because of personality and talents. Will it fix a complete lack of attraction? No. But it can make a big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 05:55 PM
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I'm blue pill, so IDK if this counts for me, but I don't have a problem with feminism or feminists. I do have an issue with the gendered and gender essentialist language and approaches that still have sway on popfeminist culture, and the inclusion of borderline sexist extrapolations from day to day life being pretty common click bait. A lot of the need to let women speak is still very necessary, but I don't feel there is enough of a midground in hearing men voice their experiences when we get in…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 05:35 AM
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Or it happens when she is childish and expecting more from her man than she should in a healthy relationship. It's a toss up really.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 04:14 AM
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You have a mentally unstable Oompaloopa on your side. God speed.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 01:10 AM
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As a Blue Pill leaning person, I almost voted for Trump myself at one point, and my choice to not vote for him wasn't his clear sexism. Life has priorities. Not everyone eat, sleeps, and breathes a stupid matrix reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/16 12:49 AM
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Find me one single CMV post on the side of trp that doesn't use those dumb ass comics, and argument in circular decorations, or links to unsourced conjecture. Your side is the one asking me to accept my well sexed, well loved, and adventurous life is against the very paradigm of truthful sexual existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:21 AM
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I'm not talking determinism. Why you would immediately jump from psychology to philosophy is beyond me, but you don't have to subscribe to philosophical notions of free will and determinism to understand the role of hindbrain functions like emotions and instincts in our behavior. As a matter of fact, behavioral economics is turning the idea of 'rational actors' - the basis for most economic theory - on it's head. I would say that the idea that humans always act rationally because we have advance…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 06:18 AM
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I would like you to show me one source that dismisses all of the 'hindbrain' processes in favor of behavior stemming from conscious, controlled cognitive ability. I've been studying this stuff for decades, most of which in real-world applications. College classes are good, but they don't make experts... You've been reading Freud then. Determinism isn't at all main stream anymore. The cognitive functions primarily serve to make sense of the hindbrain activity. To attempt to separate them out refl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:00 AM
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You mean you won't convince me to join your cult like women blaming machine that is supported by near zero of my life experience and sex life by making assertions backed by comics and your zany self help books? Oh my.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 12:55 AM
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What? No you didn't. Nothing I have ever come across in psychology, sociology, or behavioral science supports the argument being made. In fact, most in those fields would find the claim ludicrous. I'm going to go with the 1.5 years I spent studying for a Criminology degree over your exp. Sorry. Not from anything I've ever either experienced or studied. While the specifics can vary widely from individual to individual, they all stem from the same innate impulses. Except many of those are cultural…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 08:30 PM
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I know that nerds love to imagine that the cognitive abilities granted by our prefrontal cortex is some superpower that negates all other factors in behavior, but almost no one outside of nerds shares that view. TIL nearly every single section.of psychology, sociology, and behavioral science are just nerds. Social and behavioral conditioning are a thing, slice dawg. And women are attracted to a relatively short list of behaviors. Not really. There are tons and tons of different turn ons and attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:38 PM
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This is not the refutation you believe it to be. Might as well link Thessalonians.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:24 PM
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Except RP still pumps out really dumb hindbrain nonsense, like all women are attracted to a short list of behaviors and any chick ever will sleep with Chad. Women are more complicated than that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 09:21 PM
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That assumes you believe the tales of spinning plates. A lot of the theory I hear out forward would be rather hard to buy into after spending any real time with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 05:58 AM
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The difference here? The above poster was saying 'Beta' TBP posters all have vanilla sex because they love a certain philosophy. TRP advocates stuff that is both dehumanizing and 1 size fits all women. AWALT. There is a reason why being in the KKK says more things about a person than being against it and liking a certain kind of soup. Maybe my brush paints a little widely, that's a fair concern and I apologize, but pretty much all I hear here from Red pill posters is how wrong I have things when…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 02:05 AM
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Honestly, this fapping over the 'truth' of cucks and betas and alphas just reeks of inexperience. Typically I find that guys who out on the persona and talk about what women want are the crappiest at sex. They are the ones that convince women they can't orgasm vaginally until they find someone who makes sex more of a conversation. Also, playing switch keeps things fun. Respecting women doesn't mean I won't tie then up and spank them if that's what it takes to leave them quivering in afterglow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 09:11 PM
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TRP posters here really have my head scratching sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:41 PM
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This psychoanalysis is just kind of.... Way off base? Kink and BDSM have a very wide base, and liking it really doesn't have anything to do with providing for a family or how you were raised.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 08:40 PM
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The 'I have black friends' defense. Interesting move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:58 PM
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Suuuuuure. That's why cougars aren't the norm, lol. Idk how anyone knows this little about female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:02 PM
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If you can't see how misogynistic that is there is just no hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 07:01 PM
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You're such a lost cause, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:46 PM
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If you're overweight and living on meth, sure. It's not that hard to age well. MPB? Shave your head. Is being 28 why you need the redpill?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:44 PM
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Hah. Sure. Sure. Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 06:00 PM
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Whatever you say, Amigo.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:32 PM
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I'm 25 and my best friend is 48. He gets about as much attention as I do from women in their 20s. Tons of girls ache over Connery and other older dudes. Men get better with age, not worse, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:31 PM
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So you aren't a misogynist, you just believe misogynistic things and want women to be nothing but for your express needs. Uhuh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 05:30 PM
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Dude, you talk about women in such a hateful, hurt, and utilitarian way. You think they are slaves to their drives and hate women with enough meat on their bones to have periods. Like, my hatred of the overuse of the term misogynistic gets me called an antifeminist, but you fit the definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:35 PM
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Poor social skills. Looking for casual sex with courting. Bad game. Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:33 PM
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Since like... Always. They don't won't ugly ones, but older dude with a well aged face. How many women have you talked shop with?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:32 PM
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Wait.... Redpill doesn't realize women often love doing older men? Like..... That's a standard preference? Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:26 PM
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Haha. No. That may be the case if you hate them as much as you do, but people who don't exude misogyny don't need those stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:25 PM
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Yes. If you actually knew women you'd realize why your ideas about them are wack.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 03:24 PM
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Thanks. You know, I wouldn't have such an issue with redpill if they didn't extrapolate things that happen to being all that ever happens in order to make excuses for their lack of success. 'but.. but..... But.... Redpill is all about self improvement. These aren't excuses. AWALT and that's why we needed to build this house of cards.'
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 12:17 AM
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The reason you need a self help guide in order to get laid probably has something to do with your need to throw around misogyny whenever your pity party gets rained on. Source: Have dick. Get pussy. Not redpiller. Not afraid of Ass and Tits like redpill seems to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 12:12 AM
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You'd be surprised what you can do would you focus on being Baseline fuckable and looking for girls who want casual sex instead of complaining about women in healthy BMI as a tyrannical rule of Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 11:51 PM
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All of this has been proven by Science anyway. Deal with it. No. It really hasn't. It has shown certain trends in certain cultural bubble, but it has not proven women only sleep with Chad's and dudes who give them no choice on where to eat dinner while ignoring betas. Really, TRP comes off heavily as the blind leading the blind. Casual sex is probably the easiest avenue for lower value men to get sex because there is no commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:36 PM
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Except women don't fuck alpha dudes and marry monied losers who they don't want to sleep with. Often sexless marriages come out of marrying a dude you love to sleep with and the attraction dying. Sure, AF/BB relationships happen. They are not the norm though, and not universal like TRP likes to claim. Men change their priorities and look for less sexual things later on too. Hell, they learn to be attracted to things they used to not be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 10:15 PM
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But the dual mating strategy is a rationalization of the AF/BB duality. If it isn't that simple it doesn't really need explanation. A lot of redpill ideology is built upon a house of cards. Complicate one stack and the rest fall.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/16 09:45 PM
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Great. i dont have a problem with that. So that means you agree about hypergamy and afbb. No. I don't. They happen, they aren't the rule. Just because some women didn't chose you first to marry and suck your dick doesn't mean they can marry for sex and lust later. I've run into issues where I've had to chose between a few women. I wasn't robot locked on her chadlinaness l, and if I got together and married one of the others later it would be for sex and love. You're taking life being hard way to…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/16 12:07 AM
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When someone has to compete against more option, you have a lower chance of winning. That doesn't mean you will have your wife pining after a chad dick after you do get chosen. Sometimes women make choices that aren't their ovaries and crazy womanic feefees driving her to evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 10:51 PM
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Am man. I think it's over hyped and over worried about by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:35 PM
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In what way? By not letting him blame of women for the act of one?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:28 PM
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Are you one of the people who thinks hedonism sunk Rome? And 'second wave' and 'first wave' feminism had political lesbianism and the sexual revolution. Is them being against spousal rape causing some sort of societal degradation?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:12 PM
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You leave pipy alone! She tastes like Irish Cream and BBQ.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 06:09 PM
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Pity. The emotion you're looking for is a twisted form of pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:30 AM
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It makes as much sense as the rest of the vomit you're posting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:27 AM
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You're a troll account. You have to be. Also, I'm sure you work such a hard manly job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:16 AM
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You're into anorexia then, cause that's not a healthy weight for any measurements. Most 5'5" women at 90lbs may risk not having their periods.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:14 AM
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Women want a relationship or sex partner that meets their desires. Some want their cervix beaten in, most don't. You do realize most women have, like, 4" vaginas right? And it takes effort to not make bottoming out painful? And you run into big dick problems well before 12"? And women's tastes are subjective and many are fine with a lot of different looks?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:12 AM
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Or maybe it's your charming appreciation for them as people or your positive outlook on life......
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:08 AM
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Plenty of dudes go a lifetime without sex and never get violent. If you are having violent urges after not getting any that's a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:06 AM
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For women under 5' with no boobs or butt maybe. Being over 100 lbs isn't fat. Do you not understand the kilo to lbs conversion?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:05 AM
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Woman want a lot of things. So do men. Doesn't make them what you think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:01 AM
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Your issues with women probably stem from the ideas you have about them more than 'chads'. I know that sentence would make me super wet if I were a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 09:00 AM
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Because I trust them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:58 AM
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Not really significantly. Averages are near there.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:57 AM
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Or maybe you don't understand women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:56 AM
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Some? You have a pretty screwed idea of normal weight, or do you have a fetish for midgets or children?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 08:55 AM
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The alpha/beta dynamic is about being fuckable or not, and by fuckable I mean within a very short time of meeting someone without going through the whole song and dance of wining, dining, and courting. Am a dude looking for LTRs and isn't a Chad. I've been offered sex in closets with coworkers and anal on second dates. I think your system is too simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:44 AM
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This here should tell you something..what about guys who's girlfriends who are turned on by the Chad's advances? the women who decide that she can do better and later hookup with Chad when you're back is turned? It wouldn't matter if you made more money than him. Tell me what? That my girlfriends weren't looking to dump me because I wasn't a chad and asked me to help get them to stop approaching them? Doesn't that break your dichotomy?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:42 AM
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Sure they are. I've had 'chads' try to steal girlfriends before and they've been rebuffed. I've had to scare some off who couldn't take no for an answer. Some women make choices and have tastes and desires that aren't hamsters. Talking to them like they are people is actually a great way to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:19 AM
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See..... This is why I don't buy the Alpha/Beta thing. You are telling me Elon Musk isn't an Alpha? Because he doesn't snort coke and makes money? Providing for your children is Beta? Marrying a prize of a woman is Beta? Beta's have to drive imports? This is all just... Angry reactions to success.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:13 AM
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Divorce rate are at around 50%. And who's going to be honest about cheating? It's closer to 1/3. And not a single gender. If you don't mind, describe yourself. Maybe you're a Chad without realizing it, those guys exist too, many of them are BP in their mindset and laugh at TRP and the manosphere because attracting women has always been "natural" to them. They can't fathom the thought of a guy being a kissless virgin for years on end. I'm 5' 11", 25, used to be in shape but gained some weight, pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 04:09 AM
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So what you're saying is this trend is decreasing because divorce rates are dropping heavily? Also, cheating rates are pretty equal across genders. I get offered sex on a pretty regular basis, and I'm not 'chad'. Your idea of the world is kind of skewed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:42 AM
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So he could be a beta so he is evidence of this universal beta law?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 03:38 AM
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...... Sexual frustration doesn't make normal people kill people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/16 01:14 AM
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Except that most women like, nay, love, when a man knocks it out of the park by taking her on an exciting adventure, whether it's a quick bite at a local hidden-gem of a restaurant or a romantic dinner on the banks of the Seine. But that's what I mean about never turning it off. Bug romantic and impressive stuff is awesome, but sometimes your girl wants Q-doba after a long day at work. It doesn't hurt your standing as a man to be, like, OK. It seems our disagreement is on these: Somehow the basi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 08:39 PM
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Continued: I somehow think you have the idead of being 'in control' conflated with being 'controlling'. Those are two very different ways of being... This argument and the way TRP operates do not mesh. Most posts are a frightened scramble to be as controlling as possible because women are hamsters. Someone wise once told me that it's all journey, so, for me, that's usually either a meaningless distinction, or a rationalization for passively hiding out and not living your life. Doing 90 down Twis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:29 PM
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Again, you're going to have to explain this. What benefit does one gain from choosing something that one is not? There are more ways to interact with given social circles then one. You're missing the fact that redpill alpha is more than just being yourself and doing what you want. It's an active struggle to be top dog and reactive to social situations. I find it real hard to give a fuck that much. Can tweak what? How confident I am? How strong I am? How worthy of respect I am? Why would I want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 03:28 PM
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I find that a bit puzzling. Being "alpha" is really a whole attitudinal orientation in life. While I do know that one can find oneself in situations where it is easier to be confident or assertive or independent or dominant and in control of the situation, when I was being a strong, powerful, dominant, driven man in life, my whole approach to life reflected that. There wasn't an ephemeral quality to my, say, confidence. I just was a confident person. But having it recognized is or should be a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 04:45 AM
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True. I fit that sometimes in and out of social circles. But it isn't a constant. Sometimes taking a back seat is healthy. Sometimes is sucks to be feared. Having access to sex doesn't mean I always want it either, and it damn well doesn't mean I don't want LTRs. My problem isn't with the idea that men sometimes take social point. It's with the idea that it's an animalistic role that we hindbrain our way into, or that being a loving and giving partner takes away your alpha points. That's a toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/16 02:38 AM
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But by saying Alpha is competence you imply a single personality type and rule set is a one size fits all tool. Alpha is a role, a type cast, and a caricature. It's too rigid to be a real measurable goal and that leads to toxic reaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 08:04 PM
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You do realize compromise, taking a back seat, cooperation, and passive endurance are all useful in getting shit done sometimes, right? There is no one set of super-80s-alpha-macho-manliness traits that make you competent and capable of action. Violence and physical strength are often just a short cut to ending someone else's 9mm vs 45 debate. Fighting to be top dog in a situation is also a good way to make actually useful people feel you're a hindrance. Sure, some women like assertion, but the …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:37 PM
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Excuse me if I don't take your anacdotes as proof of this paradigm. I get laid quickly and enthusiastically, and find fighting and posturing to be aggravating and dumb. I've been chosen pretty quickly over dudes looking to do so too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:07 PM
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You're far too negative. There are many worthwhile women with options who will settle down for a relationship and stability. Women aren't meat robots, they have feelings and self-control sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:04 PM
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https://www.truthorfiction.com/divorce/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:49 AM
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I may when I get a chance. It could be interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:43 AM
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Some people are more assertive or type B, but not more alpha/beta. The dudes fighting to be more Alpha are the dumbasses trying to pick fights they'll eventually lose or being pricks for no good reason. I've been called Alpha a lot, but it's not a default setting. It's a presence that people can walk on and out of whole being amiable when it calls for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:42 AM
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No. I don't like double counts on stats because someone never bothered to talk a stat class.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:39 AM
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This context is still an artificial toxic idea. It's far far more complicated than that. Social power structures are more malleable and tailored and trying to be 'chad' is a recipe for unhealthy actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:33 AM
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That stat includes shady numbers and counting some things twice. The number has always been lower.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:31 AM
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Except some 'chads' want relationships. Those guys do have to make it work. Some women want just sex and 'betas' may need to compromise a relationship to get it. Not every women will fuck a chad first date, and not everyone will dent a 'beta' unless he begs. Your paradigm is far too simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:29 AM
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Except they aren't attracted to violent bad boy men and repulsed by nice guys. They date men who are confident and attractive, sure, but being a violent tool is not some get laid quick card. http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 Alpha animals don't exist. The only reason we thought they did was we studies them in high stress cages. Is that the kind of society we want? A prison?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:26 AM
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As have I. But poor language choices doesn't make a false psychological state real. The dudes mewling at the bar about how 'Alpha' they are are the ones clearly scared shitless of their place. It's imaginary.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:22 AM
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Kanye West?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:16 AM
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In Greek times you not fighting and dying right were grounds for a woman to despize you. In Norse times women were far more vocal than that. Your assertions about history are really 1 sided.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:15 AM
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You do realize that most of that is 50s TV nostalgia and not really accurate, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:13 AM
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That's not true for a lot of dudes, and given the fact that Alpha/Beta theory is a bad tween fanfic idea, it isn't a healthy way to define life choices. Healthy relationships require compromise. Sometimes that involves walking, sometimes that involves just having casual sex, and sometimes that involves investment. None of those make a dude a 'nice guy beta'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:11 AM
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This is a debate sub and the comment chain in question is discussing this topic. Sorry buddy, this ain't about your feefees.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:08 AM
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Arguing about a fake paradigm doesn't build much. The reason Alpha play is toxic masulinity is because it's dress up for low self esteem. It matter here. The good men project is kind of dumb and pandering to women, but there is a point to be made about misogyny and toxic masulinity in TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 06:02 AM
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No. It admits they got higher. The 50 percent stat was never true. Sociologists have been trying to correct that view for decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:58 AM
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It's not redefined mate. It's really really cringe. Alpha mewling is one of the surest signs of low self esteem in the real world.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:55 AM
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For people who pretend to have a logical look at the world, you all are really bad at throwing bad statics around. http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/12/02/upshot/the-divorce-surge-is-over-but-the-myth-lives-on.html
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:43 AM
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Anyone who openly calls themselves Alphas are not Alphas. It's really cringe. It's like teen Wolf weeb fanfic level self classification. Alpha wolves don't exist. Neither do alpha people. Assertiveness and type A drive doesn't involve 'Alpha play'.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 05:39 AM
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Self improvement and self honesty really. People treat nice guys shitty, true. It's unfair really. But life isn't about fairness. Their problem with women is more about not trying or improving, and that's the only way to succeed. I own triblies, smoke pipe, and have a button up tacky shirt collection, but I get dates and sex. The reason for mocking and the reason for lack of action are really quite separated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/16 10:16 PM
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This isn't true at all. There isn't some sort of market watch that all women abide by. There isn't a universal list of fuck and yucks. Women have different tastes and desires, some date down physically for other benefits, some date up and sideways. More than 20 percent of men get married and have kids. You just have to be realistic and fair when dating. Some people are at the bottom of the barrel. Some dudes will be alone forever. This rule set is just inaccurate though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/16 03:14 AM
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Uh huh. Sure. Next time you use an antifungal or computer, just remember how much worth your penis grants you and be proud. o7
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:05 PM
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Nothing is, ever, not once designed in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:04 PM
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You have no concept of the tech or the time apparently. Someone else would have discovered everything. Doesn't mean pekole don't get credit. You need way to badly for women to have been a worthless second best gender. Idk why anyone would call you guys misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:46 PM
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You mean how she was the first one to design a compiler?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 08:44 PM
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Everyone gets credit for their blocks. Is it a male game because Aristotle came first? Jeeze dude, you self respect is 0way to tied to your penis giving you self worth. Is Einstein not worthy because he 'stole' calculous to do his proofs in?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:46 PM
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Every building block matters. If they don't count, neither does Einstien for using math created by others. Plus, you're just as expendable as the next guy. Just because people with penises did something before you doesn't earn you gender points. People who do something first matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 05:39 PM
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The first compiler was written by Grace Hopper, in 1952, for the A-0 programming language; the A-0 functioned more as a loader or linker than the modern notion of a compiler. Literally the first paragraph before that. How hard is reading? Is it too feminine a skill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:42 PM
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And she invented the first one and helped standardize programming language and compiler use. That's like saying the man who invented the first car had no major contribution to history or the Wright brothers were tint contributors because their planes are old and obsolete. This is seriously just willful ignorance in the name of penis at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:17 PM
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I think that there are too many type of women and men to be catalogued like that, and that your experience may be just a taaaad bit biased. IME the man (me) is the one holding off on commitment. Mostly because I was hurt before/don't want to sign us up for a unhappy relationship. Also, I'm a fixer, which is a problem. The situation may be entirely different for someone different dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:57 PM
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See, I used to feel the same way about blue pill, then I had some people link me to Incel and MGTOW forums.... Yeeeeeeaaaaah. There's some fucked up opinions about women there too. Like.... Damn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:59 PM
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..... Compiling and a lot of the coding practices that those people founded are the backbone of almost every coding practice you do. The nuclear age wouldn't be a thing without Uranium Fission. These are huge additions to human progress.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:47 PM
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Those people get called out all the time irl and online. Tying your masculinity to the pussy you get and being 'alpha' is viewed by most well adjusted adults as being pathetically low on self esteem and annoying. Bro culture is viewed as childish for a reason, and it isn't because beer and frisbee golf aren't awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:19 PM
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Just because my job covering engineer asses makes my muscles huge and my ass tight doesn't mean I'm violent. You don't trade you soul for pecks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:56 AM
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Sex serves no purpose but to please the participants and maybe pop a baby out. People don't earn sex by making cool shit, they make money.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:53 AM
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Work the same job you do that makes you feel you are owed it? Being an IT peon doesn't work that way, but you guys can dream.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:51 AM
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Women never created or contributed any such thing. There were like no female scientists before the 60's. Stop putting fallacies on my posts. This is a troll post, right? No one is that ignorant. Grace Hopper: Mark 1, Compiler, COBOL. Josephine Cochrane: Dishwasher Elizabeth Hazen: Nystatin Stephanie Kwolek: Kevlar Lise Meitner: fucking uranium Fission. These women too. Tons of the women on this short list operated well before 1960. This has to be a troll post. Even redpillers aren't this dumbly …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:45 AM
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Idk man. I just ran through the front page again and all there is is AWALT posts, bitching about how women as a cohesive blob are awful, and not letting women know you hate them as you manipulate them into not having choice and doing what you want. Not something I'd ever endorse and crossing into 'talk to my sister again and I lodge my foot a mile up your ass' territory.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:56 PM
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I can empathize with someone who calls people plates and prioritizes emotional warfare for sex and still find them repugnant. There is a reason why people fall into it. Women can be cruel and the storybook ideas about dating are harmful and BS, but the framing of redpill ideology is misogynistic, angry, biotroofy, and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 11:33 PM
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I've read an upvoted comment with each of those sentiments in TRP in the last year. They exist. And not all women want leaders and many redpillers think being a leader is taking by force or putting down/negging. Negging is a redpill go to. It's putting down by definition. I've also read tons of advice to make sure your woman don't feel tooooo or secure. Keep em off balance. Well yes. Casual sex is casual sex. Many women want commitment more than casual sex. Many men want casual sex more than the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:20 PM
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So given women created large aspects of computers, coding, advanced engineering and physics, when are you gonna start spreading it for some old fat chicks? Also, what about gay men? A gay man invented the turing machine. Spread your cheeks and lube your ass, payment's due! Seriously though, we don't owe the world jack crap for what myths about genders say about who did what. We do not owe anyone for our parents. Women don't owe anymore than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 08:11 PM
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TRP has a rationalized abusive thought process built in though. 'Women need to be put down because she wants that in a partner.' 'Casual sex with a woman who want commitment is just nature'. 'If I don't make her feel unloved I'm beta.' 'If I provide for my children I'm beta.' ect ect. Sure, everything can be abusive. TRP embraces and justifies abuse more often than I care to see. There is definitely real seething misogyny there.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:37 PM
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If you can make it work without being abusive or damaging, more power to you. TRP just enables and masks a lot of very very unhealthy and abusive people IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:27 PM
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You know, someone could read Mein Kampf and interpret it in a way that lead to positive growth and being a good person, but overall it's a crappy plan. Redpill ideology helps breeds misogyny, encourages manipulation through negative emotion, and rationalizes gains through these tactics in a dehumanizing and selfish thought process. There are some worthwhile things redpill teaches, but it's the chocolate coating on the cyanide pill. It's all about self improvement through abuse and hatred. I empa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 07:14 PM
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Roman and norse history are awesome. Their standards of masulinity and self rule are not something to be emulated. Rigid ideas about men are a stupid hold over from history.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:57 PM
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That's a historically unenlightened view, but yes they were very approving of physical force. The redpills fear of strong women would sicken a norse manly man. The point is, masculine targets are stupid, and redpill shouldn't be holding others to theirs if they can be held to the more basic and savage one. It's halfassing it because the rules are unfair to them. They just want masculine targets that harm other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:42 PM
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Yeah, and they'd skull fuck redpillers into the ground for their fear of getting good at sex and strong women. Our society has its own ways of being masculine, and classical liberalism makes some of their practices objectively bad. Redpill is halfassing their push for masculinity by most historical standards, which should call into question their stances on masculinity in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:38 PM
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I'd kind of argue that the best criticism comes from tertiary groups, but I second that the manosphere isn't as clever or well articulated as they think.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:17 PM
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You do you without needing to put down others or harm them to get what you want. The Romans would find American masculinity to be pathetic. Same with the norse. There really isn't a right way to be a man, just a lot of wrong ones. Robert Downey Jr is a good role model. So is Mr. Rodgers. They found a way to make life work for them in a way that makes them happy and shares that with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:56 PM
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Except that the right way to be a man is more about not doing a short list of bad things instead of meeting a lost of good things. It's pretty hard to fuck up being a Man, but somehow trp seems to encourage it a lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:51 PM
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You'd be surprised what men are capable of when they aren't busy trying to emulate a social structure literally created out of prison like threatening and alien environment.
/r/PussyPass01/05/16 10:44 PM
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Oh, you're a redpill emotional retard. That explains it. Keep playing psuedo-wolfkin gender role dress up. Maybe one day you'll realize why you're empty.
/r/PussyPass01/05/16 09:57 PM
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The economy is still broken and the "fixes" are not necessarily what "stabilized" it. Early retirement, minimum wage jobs, and people quitting the labor force isn't a sign of a fixed economy, but damn will he plug them as though they are to make a shallow, untrue political point that hurts us in the end.
/r/PussyPass05/03/15 01:39 AM
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So like the last two election cycles then.
/r/PussyPass05/03/15 01:32 AM
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That entire book IS a domestic violence filled abusive relationship. It is NOT a healthy BDSM relationship. This really doesn't belong here. Feminist are offended by creepy smut books that became a slightly more acceptable smut movie. Not seeing any of this as special treatment. Edit: moving my A.
/r/PussyPass14/02/15 07:02 PM
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I can't decide if you a troll or not. You posted an article which disagrees with your assertion that the wage gap is 4 cents or less because "explaining why a phenomenon exists is not the same as demonstrating that it doesn’t exist" and advocates for the 25 cent wage gap. It defends Obama's claim of a 25 cent wage gap at the end as true. The only real evidence it presents is claiming that studies (that don't control for specialization, overtime, and sometimes even job description) find disparity…
/r/PussyPass10/02/15 10:39 PM
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Your reading comprehension must also be below average if you think telling you why your article falls short of proving its thesis sounds upset.
/r/PussyPass10/02/15 06:05 PM
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So, government mandated funding of life choices is necessary because those life choices disproportionately affect women? The 4 cent difference, which is explainable by work hour differences and specialty differences within the study they are trying to "debunk", is actually discrimination because an unsubstantiated claim the author cites says so. The argument could be made for the thesis of this article, but it isn't well defended or coherent here. It also deals more in the semantics of the words…
/r/PussyPass10/02/15 05:08 PM
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That article is pretty horrible, and doesn't debunk the debunking of the wage gap at all. Edit: seriously, read the article. It says the wage gap is real because even if men work more hours and take riskier work, it should be made so everyone is paid the same.
/r/PussyPass10/02/15 06:17 AM
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If I'm reading the situation right, the girl is trying to stop the guy from driving drunk, and he was trying to get past and hurt her. Not really a pussypass. More of a "what the fuck are you doing trying to drive drunk you prick".
/r/PussyPass23/12/14 06:55 AM
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They also did follow her after she disengaged. Sure, she is crappy for wanting them to hide in a hole because the topic is gross. She is also really really entitled. But the crew was not innocent, and they happily pushed boundaries they shouldn't have.
/r/PussyPass15/11/14 05:46 PM
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They can, but I'd that interpretation has effected a whole bunch of other interpretations, it becomes immutable.
/r/PussyPass28/08/14 02:47 AM
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If it was old enough, and used in enough case law, they couldn't overturn slavery without new law to back it. (A new amendment) Just because something is bad doesn't mean the supreme court can or should overturn it. They literally must follow the law, they just get interpretation.
/r/PussyPass28/08/14 02:26 AM
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In a perfect world, perhaps, but there is more in the logistics of law than should and shouldn't, sadly.
/r/PussyPass28/08/14 02:09 AM
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Yeah. Sort of. If it is used for enough case law then it would destroy our legal standing in every one of those cases.
/r/PussyPass27/08/14 10:04 PM
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Plessy v. Ferguson had less case law, and fewer different issues ruled based on it though. The age AND case law go into that.
/r/PussyPass27/08/14 06:14 PM
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Once a scotus decision is used in enough case law and sits long enough, it comes decided law. Even the most conservative judges on the bench have admitted that Roe V Wade is decided law. (Not sure of the legal term.) And the current political climate is one where the republicans would have to be the ones to craft the amendment, and it would have to go after the right to privacy because of how the case law has been built around roe v wade. That's not something I want to put into play, not even in…
/r/PussyPass26/08/14 04:51 AM
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Eh. I don't really know if I could back something that would make abortion illegal per say, given the current political climate and what that would mean, (not that it matters. It'd take a constitutional amendment) but I disagree with the supreme court's ruling, which has pretty much been confirmed as being rooted in racism. I honestly haven't given much thought to what action should be taken given how impossible it would be to even approach. I do feel that services to take care of unwanted child…
/r/PussyPass21/08/14 04:41 AM
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That one. When you start defining it, lawyers can't leave it alone.
/r/PussyPass21/08/14 02:12 AM
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This is why I identify as pro-life. Not really for the religious reasons, but for the slippery slope pro-choice arguments build.
/r/PussyPass20/08/14 09:45 PM
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You want the reason I identify as pro-life? This is why. Crazy people defend killing babies because it is "similar". Crazy judges do too.
/r/PussyPass20/08/14 09:42 PM
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11-1 gender ratio on the jury? Who the heck vetted that for the prosecution?
/r/PussyPass24/06/14 01:48 PM
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Thank you for doing what you do. I put off the academy for school and just never went back after I got caught in a lose lose job situation. You guys who went the distance and stand for what cops really should deserve more gratitude than you ever get.
/r/PussyPass11/06/14 06:20 AM
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You live in a world of urban legends and myths. The few places that did do that did it for other reasons than you claim. I know a cop who has an IQ of 140. He got on just fine.
/r/PussyPass11/06/14 05:51 AM
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And some are heroes . This sub should be about combating HYPOCRISY. Not hating people. Not special exemptions for the people we dislike. Anyone who is here for any other reason shouldn't be.
/r/PussyPass11/06/14 05:44 AM
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Ah. Redpiller who thinks he is real shit? Redpill ranks are filled with posturing little losers like you who think foaming at the mouth for violence over the internet makes them men, when in reality they are just cowards both physically and emotionally. Some cops in some corrupt departments do horrid things they should pay for, and some cops go out everyday and risk their lives and die to make a difference in the shittiest places and situation there are. We don't know what kind of cop this guys …
/r/PussyPass11/06/14 05:34 AM
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Shut up. Go congratulate attempted murder on someone you don't even know somewhere else.
/r/PussyPass11/06/14 04:33 AM
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