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My advice is don't spread yourself thin. Identify the main things you need to do that, if done completely, quickly, and effectively, will generate the most payoff. Pick only a few of those things. One, two, or at most, three. Here's an example: Get a high as possible GPA Get into excellent physical shape. Done. No pressure to work on your social skills, your "game", your hobbies, extracurricular reading, nothing. If you have put forth your full effort to both of your REAL goals, then feel free t…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/13 04:35 AM
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We would do well to move beyond the terms "alpha" and "beta." For one thing, "alpha" is used to describe a whole range of behaviors that, in the animal sense of the word, are NOT alpha. I don't remember what article it was, but it was linked to from here a short while ago. It put forth the idea that a lot of what we call "alpha" is actually "omega" - it is self-interested, chaotic, antisocial behavior. To be alpha, you behave not only in your best interest, but also as a leader, for the good of …
/r/TheRedPill20/06/13 07:25 PM
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There is small amount of rationalizing of bad behavior and seemingly illogical "shit tests", but most of the responses are actually pretty close to reality. Some responses acknowledge that men and women are different and that men have to be the dominant half. Other responses are basically the same thing but with some feminist veiling of the matter. Of course there are those that are straight-up lying bullshit, but on the whole I am surprised and impressed that AskWomen are being so upfront with …
/r/TheRedPill19/06/13 05:01 PM
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I don't know about skipping breakfast or eating a lot of pork, but eating 2 meals a day is a good idea. So is eating onions. Raw veggies in general are great. If I were to skip a meal for health reasons, it would be dinner. I'd rather have a big, late lunch and maybe a small meal (like an egg or some yougurt) in the evening.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/13 03:16 PM
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You should reply to her with this, or send her a PM. Especially that last bit about other women encouraging her to do what they themselves would never do.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/13 03:05 PM
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Here comes the red pill brigade. You guys know literally nothing about my education (I have a BS in statistics for fuck's sake, I'm not some idiot bimbo) I know enough about graduate school to know that you ARE an idiot bimbo if you are paying for it instead of being paid for it.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/13 01:30 PM
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First, is it possible they're doing this with all the husbands and comparing in some sort of fucked up competition? Came here to say this. Doesn't it make you wonder: How many times has your wife been the one watching? Don't dismiss it as impossible.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/13 11:07 PM
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I think women don't like this whether feminist or any other type because it reduces the market value of the main thing they bring to relationships. Right. And that's the same reason MEN should avoid it, too. By reducing the value sex with beautiful women has to you, you are ruining your incentive to become the man that can get sex with beautiful women. Porn isn't good for you.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/13 11:00 PM
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Why conflate porn and masturbation? They aren't the same thing, they don't always go together, and they definitely have different effects.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/13 01:55 AM
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I agree with that. It's how politicians get by. There's no way people that smart, powerful and ruthless actually believe in the fairytales celebrating the meek and powerless. Mouth the words they want to hear.
/r/TheRedPill16/06/13 09:19 PM
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I think it is. What's the point of the article of it's not? It's just a silly fluff piece. They had to print SOMETHING about the NSA leak, but it has nothing to do with women, so they went it wrote this peice of nonsense. If you listen to women talk, this is what it sounds like.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/13 03:25 PM
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SO MUCH DRAMA IN THE LBC What does this mean and why would you be banned for it?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/13 03:05 PM
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I know we dont live in this world any more but it would be nice if there were women who were worth waiting for. I sometimes fantasize about that.. ah..
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 09:34 PM
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Guess we'd need scientific experiments to deduce this. I submit my penis for the control group in which one vagina is penetrated 63 times by the same penis.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 09:27 PM
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I don't know how easily we can draw parallels between these derogatory terms for men and women of low value. Male value and female value are composed of completely different elements. For example, in the case of the Dalrock quote in the title, I'd say calling a woman a term that means without honor or trustworthiness implies much less about her value than it would for a man. Those things simply factor in much less than they do for men. I do love Dalrock's use of the word coward though. It's a co…
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 09:24 PM
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If you guys thought this was insightful (and it is) I recommend you check out Ramit Sethi's stuff at iwillteachyoutoberich.com. It's a mixture of common sense stuff like "save your money, you idiot" and more high-level thinking about wealth, psychology, and self-worth. It's good stuff if you are willing to sift through the stuff targeted to the clueless.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 09:08 PM
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TRP isn't about making reality what men want, it's about seeing reality for what it is.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 12:54 PM
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I could've phrased that differently. Look at it this way: We hear this story, we see how shitty his situation is, and we learn lessons from it. Instead of just crying about how sad it is that he's fallen prey to the forces that we all know exist in every woman's mind, and how mean she is. She's not mean, she's just a woman.
/r/TheRedPill14/06/13 12:35 AM
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She's just a woman doing what women do. We should be criticizing the "gentlemanly" guy she's about to ditch. Sounds like the main mistake he's made is: Not fucking her. Any other insights?
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 07:11 PM
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btw, I posted why I thought that was bullshit on that thread. It's similar to what I posted here but more spelled out and simplified. http://www.reddit.com/r/AskMen/comments/1g88zo/whats_with_the_epidemic_of_age20something_males/cai5r20 What do you guys think? Is this good advice for the average blue-piller?
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 05:25 PM
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I agree! Communicating value and making a woman have fun (while at the same time making her doubt her own relative value) is KEY. However, it's easier to communicate value if you actually have it. Acting fit, smart, interesting, and rich is easier if you already you are those things. Plus, being a high-quality man feels good even when you aren't trying to pull pussy.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 04:00 PM
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Part of what women respond to is a man's passion and mastery of a hobby. As long as we're not talking about something like video games or porn collections, women will respect the value you demonstrate by loving your hobby and being GOOD at it. Classical guitar is definitely "cool" enough that even though women generally don't care about or appreciate it, they will be impressed that you do.
/r/TheRedPill13/06/13 01:27 PM
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That's a good point. WHY don't you "feel like it"? I think you were wrong not to see this for the opportunity it is. I am not surprised your wife demanded explanations. Introspect a little.
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 09:57 PM
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Every other post here is a bleeding heart that wants a hug. No. Did you not read them? OP wants to know how to control his unruly wife. The other posts are saying that there is a difference between shit testing and a genuine request. You never reward a shit test, you sometimes honor a genuine request. Rewarding a shit test will cause OP to lose value in his wife's eyes. But honoring a genuine request such as this is an opportunity to validate his new-found attitude in her eyes. She'll start to g…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 09:53 PM
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What if I said "Black people are utterly incapable of loving each other in the way a white person expects them to." That's racist right? So why isn't the previous quote misogynistic? You are either very stupid, or intellectually dishonest. The human animal exhibits strong sexual dimorphism. There is an equally strong division of labor between the sexes. Even the way our genes are passed down is an example of this. This is also reflected in our culture, in our relationships, and perhaps most stro…
/r/TheRedPill12/06/13 05:12 AM
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When Dad wouldn't budge, my sister yelled "We'll, you're wrong! And you're not very nice!". Instead of yelling back, my father quietly said, "I don't have to be right, and I sure don't have to be nice. But I do have to be in charge. I have decided, that's the way it's going to be." He stared at her for a minute, she dropped her eyes, and left the room muttering how unfair it was was, etc. he didn't rise to the bait, just watched her go. He looked over at me and said, "Son, someone always has to …
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 01:45 AM
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A lot of the advice you see here will list many things that you should be working on to improve yourself and your life. Usually it's like this: Exercise Eat right Read Practice approaching women Get a job (or) Work hard at your job Learn a practical skill Learn a fun skill Quit drinking Etc etc. These are all fine, but if you are turning your life around I would take that list, sort it by priority and ignore everything besides #1 and #2. By focusing on your BIG WINS you will quickly see more pro…
/r/TheRedPill11/06/13 01:36 AM
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My only problem with the snooping thing is that you shouldnt put yourself in that position. It shouldn't matter what a woman is doing behind your back. She wants to sleep around? Fuck it. Ideally she's just part of your softharem anyway.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 08:11 PM
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I am not in a an LTR, but I've thought about introducing TRP to a future girlfriend. Especially since I'd be getting her with an TRP mindset. I think seeing a woman's reaction would be fun.
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 08:09 PM
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Here is one of the roughest truths to swallow that I've learned here: Women dont love men, they only love their children. That's the hierarchy of love in a family, btw. A husband loves his wife, a wife loves their children (and what the husband can provide for them). The love a husband has for his wife is the same as as he as for his children, but he would be mistaken if he thought it was returned. Women are like children. They love their husband as a child loves her parents. As a woman, do you …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 08:04 PM
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All I can say is don't self medicate. Don't drink, don't do drugs, don't get on prescribed medication unless you go the natural route first. All that shit are BLUE PILLS. Especially alcohol. I went to a psychologist for a while, and he prescribed what VZPurp said: Eating a healthful diet; Exercising daily; seeing the sun; mindfulness meditation; talking to other men; getting out of the house; exploring nature; working with your hands; fucking women; eliminating pointless/mindless time-consuming …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 08:00 PM
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I dont know what I just read. Am I that far down the rabbit hole that "normal" relationship problems sound insane to me?
/r/TheRedPill09/06/13 07:58 PM
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Men have to hit rock bottom before they are open to a completely new life philosophy. The problem with the "rock bottom" approach is that you hit rock bottom only once you stop digging. If he doesnt think there is anything wrong with his life or what he's doing, then he won't stop.
/r/TheRedPill08/06/13 05:56 PM
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Except she said she realizes that she cant find anyone else at her age. She all but said "my SMV is too low to move on"
/r/TheRedPill07/06/13 09:32 PM
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Ignore advice about being curt with waiters; 'May I have...' is superior to 'I want...'. You're not trying to be their friend, nor are you abusing your authority. This. I was going to comment on the guy recommending saying "Give me." It just sounds brutish and dumb, not "alpha." I say "I'd like", because that reflects the reality of the relationship. It's his job to treat me like a guest, not my job to act like his boss. There's a difference and this subtlety is important. Abusing your role as a…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 05:54 PM
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First of all, I am up front with the fact that I will not be exclusive. You don't start off on that note, however. Most women will date for a month or two before having "the talk." It's programmed into them, they need to know. They'll have the talk when they're sufficiently in love with you. Just the fact that I was bold enough to enable that clash, turn the attraction up to 11. This is KEY. Boldness is what allows pre-selection to have its power. If you attempt to have many women at once, you m…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 02:57 PM
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Sorry, this is too stupid to be funny. Zero subtlety makes this attempt at satire zero funny.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 02:51 PM
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No offense, but how old are you? If the social pecking order in a small circle of guys is that important to you, it sounds like you're young enough to place a lot of importance on the opinion of a small number of arbitrarily "selected" peers. Be more selective. These are obviously not the kind of people you can expect to grow from being around. On the other hand, there is no reason to throw them away. Just don't take their bullshit so seriously. Shrug that shit off. It'll be easier if you start …
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 02:42 PM
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Women know that a broken heart is not a fatal injury, so they do not care about causing them. That's what the quote means. It sounds more like vindictive "no man is good enough for precious women" bullshit to me.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/13 01:59 PM
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What was his moment of betaness? Not killing an innocent man who is ON HIS SIDE just to please a bunch of savages and his savage cunt?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:49 PM
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I noticed how all the (real world) girls who were previously in love with Jon Snow now hate his guts Interesting. Just out of curiosity, do you have a link to a forum or something with some examples of that?
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:23 PM
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A lot of modern memoirs are written in this style. I'm not sure what to call it but it reminds me of Camus's The Stranger. People are illiterate so they think it's fresh or "real" when it's straight cribbed from existentialist authors from last fucking century.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:18 PM
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The real beta of that show is Jorah (?) Mormont. Well, and Sam, duh. Yeah, I remember that scene last episode when they come back from storming that city all bloodied to tell their queen that they were successful and Dany looks around and asks "Yeah whatever, Where's the new hot guy?" and she is visibly relieved and practically wets herself when Fabio steps forward dramatically. I thought Mormont was going to start fucking crying.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 11:10 PM
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I can see one of our critics turning this: Hahahahaha hes an evil man for taking his wifes phone. But its perfectly ok that his wife is a cheating whore. around and saying: "Oh but I'm sure you guys would still be on the guy's side if the roles were reversed", to which I would respond: No. If we are being honest, we wouldn't defend the guy. We would call him a dumb beta for having to lie about his intentions or communications. He should be clear that he isn't a one-women kind of guy. Believing h…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 09:58 PM
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I enjoyed this little story, especially examining it with redpill goggles. A few choice passages (Pamela is his girlfriend, Kevin is the ex she's still seeing on the side): Pamela and I are essentially putting on a performance for Kevin. The two outsiders, one drunk out of his mind, the other depressed and eternally abandoned, are dancing and singing and weeping for Kevin, our God. And Once I begin to leave her, she wants me back. Her e-mails become more plaintive. New Year’s Eve, 2000, is comin…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/13 09:41 PM
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I've also dated a bipolar woman. I am 100% sure that her unhappiness is her own fault. Let this be a lesson. Never get legally involved with a woman who has a diagnosed mental illness. She will use it against you.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/13 05:16 AM
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Any thoughts on the future of our species? No. Not to kill your train of thought - it's fine to speculate or whatever. But evolution is VERY SLOW. For an individual, it is not useful to think about the future evolution of our species. This kind of thinking is masturbation.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/13 03:34 AM
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That was the first time I'd ever been to the SRS reddit. ...are those crazy people? Is that what the subreddit is for? It seems like just complete insanity. I'm not saying that because I disagree with their "message" but because there is nothing posted there that is coherent or makes any kind of sense. What a bunch of clowns.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/13 03:29 AM
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I think jealous was the wrong term. Especially since I'm not jealous at all. I never fear a girl cheating on me or whatever. I will just drop her if she's going to do that, and move on, but only for purely practical reasons. I dont want to fuck a girl who's just been fucked by some other guy. It's unhygienic. However, unless I make it clear that she's not allowed to reciprocate male attention (flirting, etc), she seems to like me less. She won't straight up go fuck some other guy, but she her re…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 11:51 PM
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Now we're on the same page. Professional scientist brofist.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 11:45 PM
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We're on the same page except you forgot to address my central criticism: it's not scientific. As in, there is no empirical evidence for most of evolutionary psychology. It's just a story that is made up to answer "why is it this way?" I don't care why. It's sufficient for me to know the how. For others, it's not, but they are being very intellectually dishonest if they believe their stories answer their questions. Like I said, I usually avoid this topic because it's a belief system that works f…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 11:27 PM
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I love drinking too. But I agree that drinking to keep up with your pals is pretty beta behavior. Most importantly, drinking shouldnt be a "thing", if you know what I mean. Have a drink or two, whatever. But don't let it be the focus of your attention or a crutch or anything at all really. A single drink is enough to loosen you up and be socially acceptable.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 09:08 PM
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it always struck me as kind of strange that these sober pua guys can go out and hit on, and fuck drunk chicks, when they are stone cold sober. This is part of the drinking culture I've never really understood. Why is the difference in drunkenness a factor? She gets drunk because she chooses to, you do or do not get drunk because you chose to. Why do sober people sometimes pretend to be drinking? Just how infectious is this meme?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 08:59 PM
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Your edit does bring up a good point. I don't criticize evolutionary psychology much in this the subreddit because of how much of a touchstone it is for you guys. But yeah, it's pseudoscientific bullshit. I don't need that crap to understand what works and what doesn't.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 07:18 PM
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I'm getting involved in real estate (flipping, selling etc) Very interesting! Sounds like you are an unconventional thinker. That's good, but be aware that you are choosing a difficult path. You've already gotten advice telling you to go to school. That is the conventional path to success if you choose a challenging and lucrative field, and you devote yourself to being among the very best in it. Otherwise, it is the conventional path to mediocrity. Full disclosure: I am a programmer/researcher w…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 04:23 AM
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I know the feeling. Be glad you did this at 19 instead of at 29. Why'd you move there? What kind of job are you doing? This is important - it's what you do most of the day. It has a way of shaping you.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 03:07 AM
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So I know now when I go abroad its literally a piece of piss considering I seem to almost always get laid on holiday. That's interesting! I am actually planning on moving to a major European metropolis for work, and I heard the same thing about it as you're saying about London. It got me down for a while because I didn't want to go somewhere where it's really hard to get laid. But, I can just see it as training on hard mode. Once I'm ready to move on, I'll have years of game experience on hard m…
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 01:59 AM
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If women are wired to want many sex partners just as men are, then why are they so much happier with a man who forbids her from interacting with other men? I know we are talking about scientific studies in this thread, and I dont have one to back me up, but we all know this to be the case. The only way to keep a woman from cheating is the be dominant and completely controlling. I know it from personal experience. I am not the jealous type at all, but I have to act like it to keep my girlfriends …
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 01:45 AM
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Thanks, I will give your list a listen. I have actually never heard of any of these. What makes them a good choice for closing the deal at one's home?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 01:37 AM
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what's s/g?
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 01:36 AM
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I like this explanation. It also makes sense in context of telnet_reddit's explanation below. It's like an abstract way to protect your status and prove that you are a good protector, and have value in the "tribe." But, it's been twisted in such a way that even if you do prove this by agreeing with them, you are still supplicating and still weak. It's lose-lose to participate in that kind of discussion. For an example, see that marital rape meta thread.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/13 01:33 AM
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Yeah, I did a little reading and you're right. Okay, so you're saying that they don't even want censorship or anything in particular to change, they just want to signal that they are against rape. That's what they are trying to convey about themselves. They are against rape, and therefore good, righteous, people. I got off message after this. Getting back to the point: What's their motive for signalling that they are righteous people? For beta men, we all know that the motive is trying to win-ov…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 09:04 PM
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Okay, so you're saying that they don't even want censorship or anything in particular to change, they just want to signal that they are against rape. That's what they are trying to convey about themselves. They are against rape, and therefore good, righteous, people. How is this an economic term and not a psychological or social term? I am not trying to nitpick. I just want to better understand their motives, in order to more effectively discuss this kind of thing with others. Not to get on a ta…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 08:11 PM
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Thank you for the field report (is that an appropriate term?). About the music: How do you do this without it being cheesy? Women think in movie terms - in many films or sitcoms a man putting on some music for a woman is seen as corny or trying too hard. How do you pull it off? I've considered just having music playing at my place already. Or even having a script on my computer to start playing music when my mobile phone joins the LAN. ...wow I just realized maybe that's even more corny and try-…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 07:59 PM
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What do you mean by "signalling"? Sorry if that's a stupid question. I'm new to a lot of these terms.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 07:50 PM
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What's the turtle option?
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 07:42 PM
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Her position, which she repeated several times, is simply: "You can say whatever you want, but I also get to say that you're a bad person for saying it." Anti-racists also use this line. And yes, it makes perfect sense. But it also makes this whole conversation circular and pointless. So you don't like the guy's rape jokes. You think he's a dick. Okay, great. I think you're a dummy for being so easily offended. And now I bet you expect me to listen to how your being offended is important. And ro…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 07:33 PM
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I wouldn't equate feminism and trp strategies at all. The idea of taking the red pill is to see reality for what it is in order to be able to be more effective and happier. Feminism tries to force reality and the people in into something it's not. This causes people to become ineffective and unhappy. Struggling to be something you're not makes both men and women miserable. The red pill frees people, both men and women, of that and allows them to embrace who they really are - what they really wan…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/13 04:19 PM
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You can believe that your wife has a contractual obligation without believing that you have the right to employ physical force to execute that contract. After all, I have a contractual obligation to my employer, but my employer doesn't have the right to beat me with a stick. If I fail in my obligation, they simply fire me. Similarly, you can believe that your wife has a contractual obligation and that if she fails in that obligation, your remedy is divorce or annulment. One million times this. W…
/r/askTRP01/06/13 03:27 PM
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Without going to extremes to try to find "the line", here's what I think about the forced-sex thing in marriage: The wife must either keep the man sexually satisfied, or he should be allowed to seek that satisfaction from another woman, without risking the marriage. Under no circumstances is anyone to force anything on anyone else. All parties, including the extramarital ones, participate of their own free will. Legally, that's not the case. For that and many other reasons, like many others here…
/r/askTRP01/06/13 03:21 PM
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I know this comment didnt bring anything very new to the table but the way it was phrased made it really click with me. Thanks! -A fellow recovering coward
/r/TheRedPill30/05/13 10:42 PM
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I think you are dismissing this article too quickly. Part of the argument it is making is that there the "natural" classifications of alpha, beta, omega and zeta are now longer possible due to the artificial sexual marketplace. So yes, it is possible to behave like an alpha, beta, omega or zeta in different situations. He goes on to explain that's the point of a lot of "game", and even why it's possible. Seriously, its like you didnt read it.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/13 05:54 AM
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Yeah, but who is? Who in the history of humanity could be? Genghis Khan?
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:55 PM
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I think Jerry is more of the neurotic one. Germaphobe, nitpicky, hates all his friends. Doesn't even seem to have any joys in life. The real Jerry Seinfeld seems like this, too. Now, Im not saying he's blue pill by any means. Just an unhappy neurotic mess.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:49 PM
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I dont know about that. Doesn't he end up "in love" with some dumb whore who promises to fix his broken heart? Doesnt he just get his dick sucked by worthless bitches who just want his money, but some how she's different? True love bullshit.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:46 PM
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I don't think that is the case. If you are talking about "her position" as the one who makes significantly more money, I am pretty sure that law treats men and women the same in case of divorce. We aren't talking about children or custody.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/13 04:33 PM
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Run.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/13 02:23 AM
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Treat a woman like a princess, always think of her feelings and needs first, and this is what will make you a man worthy of living a happy life. I was the prototypical 'nice guy' who is afraid to admit what he wants, instead using subtle manipulation and unspoken bargaining to get my needs met. This is key. Imagine a real nice guy, doing all the right things, putting others, especially women, before himself. Picture that man. Now picture him suddenly revealing that he wants, NO, DEMANDS to have …
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 05:07 AM
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Good. You're satisfied. Now you can go back to feeling right about how we are wrong. And we can go back to using our theory to get the results we want.
/r/TheRedPill03/05/13 04:55 AM
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Last week we were abstaining from alcohol. (Right? RIGHT?) What? Where did it say that? Im serious.
/r/becomeaman01/05/13 01:21 AM
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You're barking at the wrong tree, lady. The messed up thing is that the animation was made by a guy.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/13 10:32 PM
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