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| 7 | What's Feminism doing that's actually that bad?I don't understand why TERPers do this. They act like everything in a marriage is theirs. Alimony is used to make up the difference in salary between spouses and in my country, usually only lasts six months. Most couples in my country also both work fulltime regardless of whether they have children. Women are still usually paid less because they're usually the ones who take jobs with flexible working conditions... because they're the ones who take care of the kids. The house is usually jointly o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/17 07:07 PM |
| 5 | What are some truths about male nature?Because some men love their partner more than anything in the world. Doesn't mean they don't find other women pretty or won't enjoy porn, they just couldn't bring themselves to be with another person. I think that there are more men like that than we think. IMO the only truth of people is a numbers game: men are more likely to physically cheat if they can get away with it and women are more likely to emotionally cheat. Men are more likely to be brutally honest and women are more likely to be emp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/16 09:46 AM |
| 1 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.Thanks. Any time I back shit up with facts or studies, I get RP crickets or them complaining that I need to condense it into a tl;dr. But they can read a 'field report' which is obvious BS with no issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/16 04:07 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Instances of Wives losing attraction: How does it happen, When, And Why?I'll answer you later, just wondered how I'm being ambiguous so I can clear that up/explain when I've slept and done chores. My apologies, I didn't mean that porn/jerking off over friends was dread. I meant that you flirt as part of dread (because it shows you have options etc,.). In addition to that, men get off to porn and their SO's friends. Therefore they assume that women would react the same way to HotChad, which isn't necessarily true because most women don't touch themselves over looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 07:32 AM |
| 3 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.IIRC begging would land you in a workhouse, so yeah. I'm sure people came up with niches, begged, borrowed and stole to stay alive. It's interesting to think that it wasn't that long ago that the working class were viewed as subhuman/feral. =\ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 04:54 AM |
| 13 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.You say that, but for the majority of history, people worked as a large family unit. There was no room for being a housewife or being a child. Those are completely modern inventions. You lived on land owned by a person who was essentially your master. On top of this, you were expected to tithe 10% of your crop/earnings to the Church. In order to make this work, everyone worked. http://www.bahs.org.uk/AGHR/ARTICLES/56_201Dodds.pdf (Discusses tithing and such.) Women, men and children old enough t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 03:37 AM |
| 5 | A lot of women in the past were working quite hard.People don't need a purpose. We don't have any purpose; there is no need for us to actually exist. Our 'purposes' are partly biological, like the desire to have babies... But not everyone wants them. Our purposes are also partly social, e.g. choose life, choose a job, career, family and material possessions. But true purpose and direction comes from yourself. And that's hard, because sometimes the things we want and want to strive for become difficult to attain. There is no purpose to your life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/16 02:02 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Hypergamy is a false concept, men and women are like two different currencies.Exactly. By the time that you're a 35 year old guy, you don't want that type of lifestyle. People always wonder when I say that after 30, you shouldn't date anyone under 25. They're more likely to be immature. Immature people are more likely to be careless with things like birth control, privacy and their health. They're more likely to want to party, rather than settling down. On the same tangent, they're less likely to be working a job which allows them to be saving a decent amount. In my exper… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Hypergamy is a false concept, men and women are like two different currencies.Honestly, I've seen peer pressure do a number on young men and women. The amount of guys who give up a healthy, happy relationships because their friends gave them shit about being whipped, about how they'll regret not experimenting. Or giving them shit for dating fat chicks, or skinny girls with no boobs. Oh and the encouragement to cheat when on a lads holiday. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I have never, ever heard a group of girls encouraging someone to cheat. The most I've heard is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Calhoun's rat experiment vs human sexual dynamicsAs someone who has owned mice and rats; that experiment is practically torture. The cage was absolutely too tiny to house the number of rats/mice it held but the added danger with it was the boredom. They're intelligent animals which crave stimulation and also need space and a social 'colony'. It disturbs me that the OP is suggesting that humans like Elliot Rogers have suffered the same way the rodents did. If you want to apply it to human behavior, you're correct that human culture is constrain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 05:00 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Hypergamy is a false concept, men and women are like two different currencies.This is exactly what I meant. If you're in a happy relationship and you're both 35, the woman isn't going to have the same youthful look she had at 20 or 25. The couple bring different things to the table when they're older. I've heard so many men - even after divorcing - saying that the mother of their children is still beautiful to them. The memories, the good times, the love and affection and (hopefully) knowing each other intimately and deeply is the cement which binds people. Also, while yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 03:39 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Hypergamy is a false concept, men and women are like two different currencies.Honestly, I agree that it's a false concept because in my experience, both genders do it and I think men do it more at least in my country. My theory is that: Because social standing for older men includes how attractive their partner is, men are more likely to trade 'up' for a younger model. Their standing is partly based on how shiny things are, so having a nice car, a hot wife, a nice home and good clothes. On the other hand, young men's social standing is tied up in things like getting laid,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/16 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Male incel is still worse than "female incel"I read a lot of their posts as I find them interesting and they often have a huge chunk of the qualities I mentioned. I didn't mention looks in my post because I'm of the opinion that the guys there are actually 6-7's. It's not just going after a girl who is more attractive, it's going for girls that they can't build rapport with on top of that. When they go after fat and/or unattractive chicks, I guarantee you that a lot of them are going to think they're taking the piss. Women can easily tell … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Male incel is still worse than "female incel"Really... no, really? I'm going to be honest with you, incels believe the idea that 20% of the men are having sex with 80% of the women. Correct? I think the more accurate idea is that the bottom 1% of men will never, ever be able to find a relationship. I'm also of the opinion that it is also all their fault. These are the things I frequently see on incel forums/subreddits/communities: They only lust after women out of their league. They don't want someone close to them in interests and attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/16 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Are successful average guys destined to date girls that used to sleep around with Chad?Feminists just appropriated it and made it mean "catchy term that describes most of the stuff we don't like". No, no it isn't. The term was first used by feminists in the 70's. Before that, the term wasn't in any sort of popular use. That's bullshit because men rarely ever get into situations like that Again, more horseshit. There is an epidemic of men getting so drunk that they need to be taken to hospital, in my country. Men getting so drunk that they pass out in bathrooms, alleys and dormitor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/16 03:34 AM |
| 3 | Are successful average guys destined to date girls that used to sleep around with Chad?Ah good, another person who couldn't be bothered to read up on what rape culture is and is not. You do realise that prison rape is one of the biggest examples of rape culture, yes? But no, you just continue foaming at the mouth because it's associated with feminists and they're your enemy. Yeah, god forbid we don't blame victims. Victim blaming affects men just as much - if not more. Oh, you got drunk and she forced herself on you? Why didn't you just fight her off? You must have enjoyed it if y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Are successful average guys destined to date girls that used to sleep around with Chad?That's because rape culture isn't about being raped by a stranger jumping out of the bushes. Rape culture refers to the way people are treated after being raped or attitudes towards rape. For example, the fact that men are raped en masse in prison and people think that is a a good 'bonus' punishment is an example of rape culture. Rape culture is when influential or important people can get away with rape - even with recordings and evidence - because football is more important than justice. Or wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/12/15 06:49 AM |
| 4 | People do not admit to facts they believe to be damaging to themselves.Why is it that nobody thinks lots of partners damages men? The stereotype that a man who sleeps around will continue doing it after marriage is a stereotype for a reason. Whether it's a compulsion, whether it's a need to prove their masculinity or a lack of self control, men with high partner counts put a woman at risk of a failed marriage. Given that the most recent statistic demonstrates that a divorced woman will be 21% worse off when divorced, why take the risk? Or.. you could evaluate indiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/15 07:39 AM |
| 6 | The medical reason girls should have a low partner countIt's not a virtue when it leads to men not seeking help for medical conditions. Or when it leads to them having higher suicide rates. Or suffering domestic violence in silence. It's perfectly okay to be stoic and unaffected by petty problems and to be in control of your life, but that shit doesn't apply to health, whether it's mental or physical. It happens too often to men, especially military men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/15 07:31 AM |
| 3 | The medical reason girls should have a low partner countNot really - at least in the area I had this experience in. It's a working class area where men really don't ever access services, which means they get shut down pretty quickly. So, men won't access group support or counselling services as often as women do. So no, there are differences in coping. Men are dangerously internal; I've spoken about it at some length in this sub. It's very hard to get them to access counselling, welfare and such. Men seemed much more affected by not being able to hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/15 07:19 AM |
| 5 | The medical reason girls should have a low partner countIn my experience, sterility really fucks with men. It's something most don't worry about excessively until it happens, because men aren't taught that their goal in life is loinspawn. They often feel very depressed that they can never have the 'genetic connection' and the awe of creating life. They feel depressed and like they're lesser men. It's not something society talks about, except to laugh at. As with sterile women, they then (if they want kids) have to deal with medical treatments and peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/12/15 07:03 AM |
| 1 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?And herein is the crux of the issue; the only thing you value is what gets your dick hard. Maybe you just shouldn't be in a relationship if the rest of it doesn't matter. Is that so difficult? Yep. Chad got something you're not getting in bed. You don't care if she tried it once or twice and got sick of it. You're now entitled to the same thing, regardless of it being time-consuming, unhealthy and painful for her. You didn't respond to whether or not you'd take it up the ass to give her the best… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 01:38 AM |
| 1 | A question regarding alcohol and consent for feminists dating menThere are plenty of crazies about. Just look at the American Engineer Union (or whatever the name is). Something like 10% of the highly educated, well-paid people in it think that there is no way the towers could have gone down to two planes crashing into them at high speed. There's a historian in my country who releases books where he literally makes shit up... So yeah. There are some nutty feminists. Those are the same ones who think being trans* is a mental illness and that men are just using… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 01:31 AM |
| 1 | If Feminists/Blue Pillers STOPPED claiming Nice guys are actually manipulative assholes entitled to sex, maybe less people would turn to The Red PillSure, but that only counts (imo) if she's average. Ugly women may as well just be invisible. Look at Susan Boyle, she could be as sweet as she likes to you but you're not going to want to stick your cock in her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/15 01:23 AM |
| 2 | If Feminists/Blue Pillers STOPPED claiming Nice guys are actually manipulative assholes entitled to sex, maybe less people would turn to The Red PillYou've never been involved in nerdy hobbies. When I was a dumb 15 year old, I thought it was awesome that I had so many nice friends who would give me presents. These days I know all too well that there is no point making friends with a very large proportion of male gamers. Even the married ones. =\ The majority of women I've talked to have the same views and experiences. It's stupidly common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 06:33 AM |
| 2 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?No, the nice guy thing isn't a myth. Most nerdy, chubby 'nice' guys are self-absorbed, selfish morons. I know this from being a gamer for a very long time. All my female friends have had a stalker at one point or another, even after making it clear that they're married/gay. I love how it's always anal or threesomes. Does it occur to you that there are a lot of reasons for people to not like anal? There is a fairly significant percentage of gay men who don't do anal. But of course, you don't want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 06:19 AM |
| 13 | If Feminists/Blue Pillers STOPPED claiming Nice guys are actually manipulative assholes entitled to sex, maybe less people would turn to The Red PillI don't get why people need to realise that. I mean, most guys wouldn't fuck an ugly girl just 'cause she's 'nice'. Most nice guys I've met over the years don't want to date the people at their level, no matter if they're nice or have stuff in common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 03:56 AM |
| 6 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?It's not because you're venting. It's because you've created this whole monolithic other guy that all women find attractive and just (gasp!) give sex. It's like you're trying to be as dense as you physically can be. Say you meet a girl who is stupid fucking hot. You fuck her before you've even had a first date and you only meet up for sex. You know full well that you can't stand her and will never actually want a relationship with her, but sex is sex. Eventually the novelty wears off and you sto… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 03:48 AM |
| 4 | If relationships are supposed to be equal, why are there so many Average Frustrated Chumps?I've said this before to people but I'll say it again: you come off as horrendously unattractive by whining about some imaginary Chad Thundercock. It's like a bunch of nerdy, white shut-ins thinking that any woman with a black man is cuckolding her future partners. You see sex as a commodity - so why should any woman who views sex as something intimate and special give it away to YOU? You admit to thinking men exchange love for sex and women vice versa. A lot of men and women have shitty relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 02:42 AM |
| 3 | [Question for Red Pill] Do you reject or filter some of the common Red Pill ideologies?From what I read about the US, it sounds like you could really use strong unions so that you get healthcare and time off. :| I also wondered what the fuck a labour unicorn was. I'm a moron. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 02:13 AM |
| 6 | A question regarding alcohol and consent for feminists dating menSee, I'm teetotal to the point where a shot of Whiskey will knock me out very quickly. In spite of that, my ability to speak doesn't usually get buggered up by it. Alcohol affects different people differently. I've met plenty of people still able to form sentences who were clearly in no fit state to do anything, e.g. drive, look after their kids, walk home on their own or consent to sex. What people misunderstand about feminism and drinking, is that feminists don't mean that any sex under the in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/15 02:09 AM |
| 1 | What Is Purple Pill Debate's Opinion on This Comment Thread from r/TheBluePill On An r/DeadBedrooms Thread About Lack of Sex In a Marriage?The solution to this is to not ever lie. Honesty is important in all aspects. It's not okay to lie just to make sex get over faster - that's how you end up in a miserable POS relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/15 12:13 PM |
| 10 | CMV: There is more of a "vilify men and yell rape culture" than there is a "rape culture"No; I think it's the following, in no particular order: Rape and pedophilia are used as a jokes; if you ask people to be sensitive and not tell rape jokes because of x experience, people tell you to get off the internet, to get raped and such. People think that rape is an acceptable punishment if someone is in prison. Even if you have proof, there are many things that can go against you trying to get a conviction, e.g. knowing your assailant, having fetishes or having a criminal history. Rape an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/15 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Women were always workingI was just addressing the idea that chivalry in any way protected women; it was mostly an economic thing shrouded in fake 'honor'. Nobody was going to care if a peasant died because they had zero value. Yes, they had worse armor and worse access to medical services but if they were captured, they were still fucked because they had no value according to their station. Pretty fucked. I'm mostly familiar with the 100 years war and at one point, the pope had to tell people that mass murder and rape … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 08:45 AM |
| 1 | Women were always workingSeriously. The area it was in was decimated when the local factories and docks collapsed in the 80's. So you have a lot of uneducated, hard working people who never went to school and then struggle to help their kids. A lot of kids from that area can barely speak or read at 5-6 years old. Then you have the gangs, who basically force people to join, so people get records because they're economically stuck in the area. It's tragic. The rest of the city is amazing but it has like... collections of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 03:58 AM |
| 1 | Women were always workingYeah, it really does. In the UK, where I'm from, you have absolutely no chance of finding a job that requires no qualifications. There was a new Walmart (ASDA) which opened up a few miles from me and for every non-managerial role, they had at -least- 200 applicants per minimum wage job. You can't even survive on those wages. OTOH the graduate market here is amazing though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Women were always workingYou say that, but is it true? If you're a black guy, with a black name, who grew up in a poor neighborhood and went to a primarily black school... is it as easy as just getting any job and suddenly being middle class? There is a huge class of Americans who have dual incomes and two jobs each and they still can't make ends meet. When you have a retarded system where local taxes fund schools, you trap people in poverty for no good reason. It's why you end up with things like AA; you can work hard … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Women were always workinghmm, that's not really how it worked.. Your confusing modern day women who are obsessed with control to normal families. That isn't precisely true. It was common to give a woman an allowance and she ran the day to day household. Any important decisions were made by the man of the family e.g. moving home or having children. That was mostly from mid-1800's up until the 60's and 70's. As for the comments about chivalry, it was mostly a myth and didn't tend to ever apply to someone who wasn't upper-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 01:58 AM |
| 4 | Women were always workingYour views baffle me. You make out like fathers who spend their time working are somehow better than women, but being a father is JUST as important. All parents (step, biological, gay, straight, male, female...) should prioritize their kids and actually be an involved parent, if you're using that logic. When you say perks, you mean maternity leave, right? Why not have paternity leave if you're focusing on children? Why doesn't TRP scorn deadbeat fathers if the idea of family is so important? And… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 01:47 AM |
| 4 | Women were always workingSee, you misinterpret what a lot of academic feminism says. It's not that women couldn't work, it's that they were denied opportunities based on their gender. This was compounded by factors like class - so, women during the industrial and pre-industrial revolution could be miners or a seamstress but couldn't become a manager. They couldn't open up their own store or live alone or attain education without rebuke and public scorn. They could work but couldn't vote. They could give birth and raise … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/15 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Women were always workingNot you. I meant the polish guy, sorry! edit: That said, while women weren't off at war, which was a really shitty deal for men - they still performed much of the same labour as men. I can link studies from places in Africa where women do the vast majority of farm work. It does vary from era to era though and in different countries. I also think people underestimate what hard work every single thing was. Limited tools, needing to be self reliant, relying entirely on being able to create, barter … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/15 09:08 PM |
| 10 | Women were always workingThis is actually something I debated with a TRP guy. He genuinely thought that women had never worked and certainly never did hard labour, even after being presented with a bunch of proof. TRP isn't a hive-mind and I've had debates with people who genuinely think their lives would be better in a feudal or industrial revolution era. https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/3q6u39/why_are_mens_rights_advocates_not_taken_seriously/cwd0wn5?context=3 Like seriously. The majority of society … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/15 11:11 AM |
| 2 | CMV: All men should be taught the theory of "Schrodinger's False Rape Accuser"How is this any different to the guy in Texas who got probation for raping a two year old girl? Or the Du Pont guy getting probation after raping a three year old? There are a lot of judges out there who give probation rather than convictions. Hell, in my country, a judge gave the rapist of a 13 year old girl a suspended sentence because he thought she was sexually predatory and 'experienced'. I don't doubt that female rapists get away with more, but the issue is largely with how society treats … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/15 04:41 AM |
| 5 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?That isn't true. If you have a yearly check, you can catch it early. It's worth getting a urine, blood and rectal test, especially if you have any risk factors for it. And if we're talking about slow, then prostate cancer is pretty damn slow to the point where treatment at stage 1 is often not recommended. =\ (Seriously, if you're at risk, please consider regular testing even if it's expensive.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 05:14 AM |
| 4 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?How could you not need it? I understand that being a libertarian and having a small government is something people want, but you have to consider the benefits of providing good quality healthcare to your country. What system do you propose works better? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 05:09 AM |
| 3 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?It's exactly why we have preventative screening measures. Women can't check for uterine, ovarian or cervical cancer themselves. There should really be less stigma so men don't have to end up with late stage cancer for no good reason. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 04:45 AM |
| 8 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?Ah, I always forget that PPD is American. You guys need socialized healthcare yesterday. Why wouldn't you encourage your workers to take advantage of preventative health care? It means you pay less down the line when you take a visit for urgent issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 04:19 AM |
| 2 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?That is pretty much what happens in my country for some female dominated jobs. Yet somehow, men aren't queuing up to get social work degrees and jobs. One university I applied to literally told us that males were almost guaranteed to get in as long as they had CCC and no criminal records. I didn't see an issue with it. They're underrepresented and it's useful to have the correct gender in some cases. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 03:57 AM |
| 10 | Should we "diversify" female oriented fields?Men visit the doctor less and it's a huge goddamn problem in healthcare. It's why men tend to die of cancer more often. It's why men tend to get mental health treatment much later. It's not a positive to say that men use less healthcare. Preventative treatment is important. I wouldn't like to employ someone who might die because they were going to ~tough it out~. FWIW, Men are also more likely to be alcoholics and addicts. In sane countries with paternity leave, it doesn't matter what gender you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/15 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Are women are trying to take over gaming and nerd culture?More acceptable, but now it's fucking incredibly hostile within the community itself. I've been gaming since I was five years old and in the last three years or so, it has split into different factions, all of whom hate each other while having points. GG: It IS wrong that people can buy for reviews. Anti-GG: No, it wasn't okay for you to witch-hunt someone on the word of a disgruntled ex. How many TRP/TBP people have that one ex-partner who turned all their friends against them? Anti-both: Both … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/15 01:23 AM |
| 3 | Umich student catches chlamidyia TWICE from Umich football star who 'cheated on her' with a caucasian lady. Blames football star. Bonus points: She cucked her boyfriend (who told her not to go postal on the player)I love how this guy thinks that the overwhelming majority of men would wrap it up. It's an absolute nightmare trying to get 16-25 year old boys/men to actually use condoms. I've had way too many guy friends who have bragged about getting her to not use one, taking the condom off mid-fuck, cheating on their partner and not using a condom. Then they end up crying about women having a pregnancy scare. A shitload of men will rawdog because sex without a condom feels better for them. You don't need t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/15 10:29 AM |
| 3 | CMV: TRP is so hated because women hate beta guys trying to act alpha.That makes sense. I think - from the point of view of mental health - men have a huge issue where they're taught to be independent. It means they're a lot less likely to seek out the aid of a GP or psychiatrist until it's too late, and are much less likely to access services which could help them after the fact. On the other hand, women have an issue where there is a subsection that simply can't function solo. That is equally as dangerous and why those people end up in shitty situations, then ne… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?You actually are an idiot. You know you can look this shit up, right? IFAD literally has a page where it lists women as having an average work week of 64 hours, to men's 32. Women spend approximately 26/hours per week on agricultural work, with men spending 12 hours on it. But you know, it's just so unquantifiable. FWIW, yes, men plough the land but if a woman is poor - which is really fucking common - she's doing that shit on her own. It varies from region to region but women still do the bulk … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 12:09 PM |
| 2 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?You're so polite! So I guess I'll begrudgingly ignore my essays a bit more to respond, hah. I favour an interventionist approach. My logic is this, for example: Different groups in society are fundamentally different with regards to their needs and with regards to the way that they think. The place people have in society shapes the path they think they can take. But if those groups don't take other paths, then how can other paths benefit from their life experience? How can their social groups ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?Yes, they did. Is it really that hard to grasp that it wasn't just poor lil' men who suffered? Children were used to do dangerous work, e.g. pulling things out of machines and climbing inside them, sweeping chimneys and working on farms. As soon as a child was big enough to walk and talk, they were big enough to contribute because survival DEPENDED on it. That is a fact. It's why family sizes there and in underdeveloped nations are huge. Seriously, you just need to look at places like Africa to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 02:19 AM |
| 0 | CMV: TRP is so hated because women hate beta guys trying to act alpha.So, the idea that women want to be raped. The idea that men desire sex and women desire commitment. The idea that women are programmed to be hypergamous. The idea that men programmed to rape women. The fact that the majority of the hypotheses can't actually be tested and rely on 'common sense knowledge'. I also find that people use evo-psych to justify their biases. Oh, it's just that humans are born to instantly dislike people who have different features! There are some interesting evolutionary… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 02:09 AM |
| 2 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?That isn't true. There is a reason you both have access to a mediator. It's up to a man to stand up for himself - if she acts like that, take it to court. Keep records of her poor behaviour, proof that you can look after the child on your own, be civil with regards to letting your wife see your child. And most importantly? Stay in the fucking area. This is a HUGE thing. If you move halfway across the state, a court is never going to give you custody because it'll disrupt the child's life. Why is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 02:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: TRP is so hated because women hate beta guys trying to act alpha.Ah, I say this because I have known a lot of women who fall for TRP head games. They're always girls with low self-esteem; that doesn't make it a bad thing. It's not a bad thing to use subtle manipulation to get the attention of said girl. I just have a problem with the whole... being emotionally distant, not wanting to deal with her problems, not viewing her as equal. If that makes sense? The sort of woman who thinks that she couldn't do better and then that reinforcement of the idea. It skirts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 01:42 AM |
| 2 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?From what I remember, shared custody makes up a large share of custodial arrangements and is becoming increasingly popular and pushed for. This is due to the benefits a child gains by having both parents as role models. Shared access definitely makes up the majority of cases. A big issue is that a lot of men assume that it's impossible to get shared custody, so they immediately take whatever offer happens during mediation. They also need to be made aware of the fact that staying in the area wher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/15 01:35 AM |
| 5 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?Never said that men didn't have it really bad. I'd argue that WC men have historically been the most trodden on group. They had a lot more rights than women did, but they (and children) were utterly expendable. Especially if they ended up on a boat which got boarded; so much more likely to end up with severe, lifelong injuries. The reason that bill happened was because it was a huge scandal among the upper classes, who didn't take into account the fact that most families needed the income of the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 04:17 AM |
| 5 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?They were at home so much that the government had to introduce the Mines and Collieries Act 1842 simply because women were sitting at home, all safe and sound! And in British Parliamentary Papers, 1834 (167) XIX - women made up between 50 and 70% of all workers in textile factories. During the Middle Ages, women also worked at brewing beer, as Spinners, midwives and worked on the farms at home. Eventually, guilds and parliament put restrictions upon women's work and cut their inheritance rights … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 03:55 AM |
| 13 | CMV: TRP is so hated because women hate beta guys trying to act alpha.Women are evil, cock-carousel riding sluts. When their clunge and looks dry up, they adhere themselves to the first poor, innocent beta they can find and leech money and baby batter from him. After a few years, divorce rape him and take ALL of his stuff and his child and then shack up with some black dude with a huge dick. Live off a mountain of money and interracial sex. The End. I dislike TRP because they apply phony evo-psych concepts to real world situations. I dislike TRP because they have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 03:45 AM |
| 5 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?It drives me a little bit up the wall seeing so many people who just don't understand how these things work. Every day I see comments from people saying that women are always awarded custody of kids. Nobody mentions that courts only refuse access if there is a strong, legitimate reason to do so. Nobody mentions that men almost never try to gain majority custody. Nobody mentions that even with alimony, women are often worse off because childcare costs are huge. I mean, daycare is literally around… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 03:24 AM |
| 4 | Why are Mens Rights Advocates not taken seriously in the same way Feminists are?So, the issue with some of these things is that they vary from country to country and state-to-state. There are also some misconceptions when it comes to some of the things you mentioned. Family courts: family courts are used when mediation has failed. Both parents are given the chance to work out an agreement with each other. The reality is that a lot of men simply don't use these mediation sessions to get a good custody deal. Divorce law also doesn't discriminate against men. The assets you ga… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/15 01:27 AM |
| 1 | For TRPers: Should Women be allowed to vote? If no, why?The IRA are reactionary to Islam? NK? White phosphorus is BANNED. It's like using fucking mustard gas. When was the last time Palestine did anything seriously significant against that actually warranted a banned weapon? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/15 10:11 AM |
| 1 | For TRPers: Should Women be allowed to vote? If no, why?Really? Aside from Jewish people in Israel who thought the use of (banned!) white phosphorus on civilians was acceptable? How about good, christian Americans who purposely infected and did not treat people with syphilis? Or more recently, the tortures inflicted at Guantanamo Bay or Abu Ghraib? What about the IRA? They're Christians who STILL carry out attacks. Much less than they used to, but fifteen years ago they were still very active. Christian churches also have a long record of sexually ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/15 01:28 AM |
| 1 | For TRPers: Should Women be allowed to vote? If no, why?I'm not black. I'm a white European living in a minority white area. It's been an eye-opening experience since I went to a middle-class school with one Muslim and two black students out of ~1000 people. Try not to believe studies unless you see them for yourself. This is the data in question; https://img.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/files/2013/05/death-penalty.jpg - which confirms that the figures are based on non-moderate Muslims. There are a lot of interesting reasons for extremism and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/15 09:55 PM |
| 1 | For TRPers: Should Women be allowed to vote? If no, why?Except it's not 200 years ago. Racism is still truly well and alive in the majority of countries. You still had fucking segregated schools up until 1974. The kids that went to segregated schools then, are the parents of kids that have not long finished college. Riiiight. Please point me to a website where I can look up some average, white, middle class guys who have been merely accused of rape. I feel like enjoying some life ruining. I'm not sure I'd consider the study that reached those conclus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/15 10:33 AM |
| 5 | For TRPers: Should Women be allowed to vote? If no, why?It's amazing how narrow sighted you are. People have NEVER been more free. You can easily move country. You choose where you live. You can choose your job. You don't have the risk of being conscripted into armies just because you live on X land or because your government feels like it. You can now divorce easily rather than being stuck in a loveless, sexless marriage. You can be openly gay and live with your partner. You can be a child and not be forced to work in incredibly dangerous conditions… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/15 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Have you developed ways of figuring out the person you are dating?These are all amazing points and general rules that I've noticed working most of the time. My personal favourite is to watch how they treat people 'beneath' them. If they're calling their waitress a lazy fucking bitch and not tipping, chances are high that when you get sick or unemployed, you're the lazy bitch who isn't serving their needs. From talking to my professors who are divorce lawyers: do not marry someone who doesn't work. Don't aim for a pretty trophy. It breeds resentment and if you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?Flat shoes don't offer any heel or arch support, while having pretty much no shock absorbency. They also put a type of strain on the Achilles tendon which ends up just making your calves hurt a lot, mostly if you're used to wearing heels or sneakers a lot. That is mostly for the style of flats women wear and also for flip-flops. You're generally fine with well-fitting, low heeled shoes and alternating footwear. Not skipping leg day helps, too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Slutshaming and betashaming are just shaking people who give up their worth easily. Women their sex, men their time.Sure, but sex is a path to that. Sex is also the result of that. I just think that the RP way of thinking that all women want is commitment in a relationship, bargained for with sex, is just... Narrow. Same with men exchanging commitment for sex. There is no room for men who love relationships or women who just like sex, or people who just like intimacy and don't want to play games. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 03:06 AM |
| 2 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?Oh no, I just thought I'd suggest different stuff for you. I didn't really feel like debating someone so obviously oblivious as him. :) Some of the people here could win an award for being purposely obtuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 03:04 AM |
| 2 | Women were believed to be asexualTentative point here: I'm fairly sure that for quite a lot of history, women were thought to be much more sexual than men, so they must be repressed. Otherwise, they'll just go around tempting men like the whores they are. Origen and Tertullian were scholars who both thought this. The Handbook of Medieval Sexuality is interesting bedtime reading, although I'm not sure how accurate it was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Slutshaming and betashaming are just shaking people who give up their worth easily. Women their sex, men their time.Or because they like intimacy. That's the thing all this stuff discounts; some people like sex and are able to emotionally connect more easily. That doesn't make them sluts. Most of the people I've known with high counts have been people who just love people and they're okay with a relationship not working out. The experience of love, warmth and affection and memories with people is more important to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 02:40 AM |
| 2 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?I think that sometimes it is women not being used to equal treatment, this frequently seems to be 18-something 'princesses' who have never been told no or that what they're doing is wrong. Funnily enough, it happens with men. Men who have just left the nest and then have mommy call their boss or professor when they get a bad review. On the other hand, I think a decent amount of it is misogyny and sexism. Especially when it comes to benevolent sexism; it makes my skin crawl when older men call me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 02:29 AM |
| 4 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?I think it's culture sensitive. Western culture trains women to be... sensitive. If you casually call a female relative 'spotty' and say she won't find a boyfriend, tears ensue. If you say that as a Chinese or Indian person, then that's just normal. Something interesting I remember from my Psychology course is that in different parts of the world, mothers act very different. In China, they're quite indifferent, in Israel, they're less affectionate because children are raised more communally. In … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 02:22 AM |
| 1 | Is it possible that some of what gets called misogyny/sexism is actually equal treatment and women aren't used to that?Well, I know that some workplaces require(d?) them. Banks are the main offenders of this, especially back when we didn't have nice flat options. That said, flat shoes are also goddamn terrible for you. As for heels, it's more that they extend your legs and make your ass look better. So while a guy may not be looking at your shoes, they'll probably be looking at your ass and legs. Same as a bra or certain types of shirt. You might not give a shit about what sort of bra/shirt it is, but hot damn i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/15 02:16 AM |
| 2 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?If you want a good example of a patriarchal system, look at the distribution of judges. The UK is a good example of a place that has historically been run by men and still, a majority of men. Look at politics; where the most important thing is what a woman wears, not what she says. Where you're implicitly biased for being another gender and will push your agenda constantly, apparently. It's the same for Obama. He's viewed as biased for pushing a black agenda, no matter what he does because he's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 02:27 AM |
| 2 | How do feminists reconcile that they get access to all the good mediums of advocacy?If you want to have a good organization that works to improve the lives of men, then men need to build it. Men need to fund it. Men need to advertise, lobby, campaign and push their agenda. There are enough men who go to Harvard and could publish something, but they don't. You can get help from the government and similar organizations. Unfortunately, most men would rather waste their time crying over Tumblr feminists than doing anything useful. Oh, someone dislikes your idea? Well, people hated … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/15 02:21 AM |
| 1 | TRP fantasylandHow is it unfair? There is no evidence that people who come into jobs via AA perform worse when compared to those who were not affected by it. For certain minority groups, AA helps close the poverty gap without raising taxes, without changing how US schools are funded, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/15 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillThey are very much against considering women as abuaers and while heartedly believe that women are good just and perfect. Once again, you aren't backing up your statements with anything other than more opinion. Link me some unbiased critical discussion because from a brief skim-through, it doesn't seem horrendous. Think of it this way; when gay marriage was passed in your country but didn't deal with the issues transgender people face, does that mean lesbians and gay people don't support integra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/15 01:20 AM |
| 0 | TRP fantasylandSure, there might be a quota. But does that mean that people should treat her with outright hostility? In my experience, it just means that workplaces seek out women with the qualifications they desire. It doesn't mean that they're worse at their job. Also, the EU quota thing isn't mandatory - in the UK it's a voluntary code. Nobody is being 'forced' to maintain a quota. Do you think that quotas that favour men are wrong? There are a surprising amount of professions in the UK where they're being… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 05:51 AM |
| -1 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillVAWA So, do you want to provide more info? I'm not an American and can't really be bothered to trawl through the bill itself to pick out problematic stuff. As far as I can tell, it seems to be largely feminists who have an issue with it, because it doesn't address root issues leading to DV and doesn't fully cover men. I want an unbiased article describing the issue thoroughly. I didn't say they can't. Just that it's very unlikely when it comes to rape and DV. I also said that men are even less l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 05:43 AM |
| -2 | TRP fantasylandSTEM workplaces are often outright hostile to women who join. There is the assumption that their sole purpose is to fill a quota. It doesn't matter that people call you a bitch if you don't want to be hit on or want to work hard. STEM is full of idiots who treat women like princesses until they find out she has a partner and kids. At which point, her value is lessened because there is less chance of some nerd fucking her. And of course, she's a bitch because she doesn't want to joke about guys i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 05:01 AM |
| -2 | What conclusions have you derived without peer-reviewed studies addressing the exact same point?Generally true. Doesn't matter that all of their 'realz not feelz' links are all just opinion pieces with nothing except anecdotes backing them up. Bloopers have to have peer reviewed studies and can't be behind a paywall because then the study is totally invalid. Also, if you have anecdotes, you can't use those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillYou do realise that if you're doing that kind of research, it's very easy to find out whether or not she made a false allegation in the past? I know you have this idea that women are just going to lie about it, but if you had even a vague idea of legal processes, you wouldn't think that anymore. I never said that. I said that men also file for that reason and that unreasonable behavior covers a large array of misconduct. DV is common. It happens to both genders. I definitely don't think men lie … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:34 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.No problem! It varies from person to person. Some people never experience in-grown hairs and for other people, they experience them if they so much as look at a razor. I would definitely invest in either Tea Tree moisturizer or After-Wax treatment lotion with a good exfoliant. Even if you shave, it reduces your risks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:21 AM |
| 1 | What other scientific models are there to evolutionary psychology and behavioural economics, that we could use to contest the validity of the Red Pill?The thing is, a lot of TRP folk do claim that their path is best and that they're going to tell you about how life as it really is. Some of the 'common sense' things include: Women always trade up and are no better than children at handling their emotions. One of the main arguments for this is an article from 1851. Another is an article from 1890 which is essentially an opinion piece. There is a rant about how women are unable to think rationally, with the 'evidence' being a random blog which al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 04:15 AM |
| -1 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillI'm not just 'trusting' women, I'm trusting facts, studies and real life experience. Abuse is much more common in relationships - no matter the configuration - than you even think. It doesn't have to be beatings for unreasonable behavior to be a reason; it can be not allowing your partner friends and family, it can be being controlling, it can be not allowing someone to use their own money. I'm not sure why you think women are lying about abuse in order to hide 'trading up'. It's not common in t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/15 03:38 AM |
| 2 | Take a look at modern Feminism.I'm not sure how this is relevant to feminism. The US gave shelter to a refugee who had trouble adapting and had run-ins with the law. It happens a surprising amount with refugees. They've often been tortured, threatened, abused, raped and seen their families suffer the same fate. The police and courts are sometimes more lenient, in the same way a native citizen is dealt with more leniently when there are mitigating circumstances. I wish that politicians would stop intervening on individual case… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 05:10 AM |
| 1 | BP, if you had the chance to clean up TRP, what would you change? What would you keep?Here; http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.1556-6676.1990.tb01447.x/abstract - it's a bit of an old study, but traditional gender roles are associated with more depression and less access of services. Non-feminist viewpoint for you and in my experience, the findings are still accurate. My area has been spending so much time and money attempting to fix this issue. Except that is the language you use, you're calling men little bitches, pussies, and so on and so forth. TRP endorses the idea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 04:15 AM |
| 0 | BP, if you had the chance to clean up TRP, what would you change? What would you keep?Oh, wow. You're so bitter and engage in so much emotional over-reaction that I'm not sure that it's possible to have a reasonable discussion with you. Society in no way tells men that they have to be sensitive pussies. I'm sorry if you interpret giving women orgasms and having basic empathy as being a pussy. It's well documented that the majority of media shows men as being strong, having muted emotions, being the primary breadwinner, etc. In the same way, it also shows men as being more violent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpill15%. Was around 30% 20 years ago, if my memory serves me well. Women initiate 65% of them - I can PM you the source if you're interested. 40% due to unreasonable behavior. Don't argue with this guy, he's either a dipshit or a troll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 03:05 AM |
| 2 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillThe figure goes up and up. The figure is actually 65%, with 15% initiated due to their partner cheating and 40% due to their partner being unreasonable, e.g. abusive or controlling. Don't let me interrupt your circlejerks with facts though. The amount of men requesting is trending upwards and will likely even out in the next decade, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 03:03 AM |
| 2 | Chinese men and women discuss love/marriage/money - 100% redpillOh my god, how dare women have standards. After considering divorce law as a career, I will say this: never marry someone who can't hold a job. This should be for either gender. Being fiscally responsible and holding a job are hugely important. (Side note to guys: never marry an 18 year old with no job because you want a trophy wife. You'll just turn into a bitter asshole when she takes half of the assets you gained during your marriage.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 03:01 AM |
| 1 | BP, if you had the chance to clean up TRP, what would you change? What would you keep?Oh, it's you again, hello! While you may not think that, you're wrong. It plays quite a big part in why men commit suicide. There are a lot of reasons men commit suicide and while you're close, you're not precisely on the money there. Men are less likely to try to help themselves. Society tells men to be strong and tough, thus, they're less likely to go and actively fix their issue. With most mental illness, self-medication tends to be how people initially cope. While both genders do this (women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 02:36 AM |
| 1 | What other scientific models are there to evolutionary psychology and behavioural economics, that we could use to contest the validity of the Red Pill?http://bit.ly/1DgP1sJ Basically, it's a phenomenon that occurs a lot in Psychology but sometimes happens in other scientific areas. It's where people use their anecdotes and common sense then think that it's just so obvious. Therefore it is true. This then informs their view, passed off as fact and almost scientific truth. TRP falls into this a lot; they'll find one study and have some life experiences that back up their view point. No matter how much evidence you give, their 'truth' is more cor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 02:15 AM |
| 1 | BP, if you had the chance to clean up TRP, what would you change? What would you keep?Have you ever read Gone Girl? It has a fantastic bit about being a 'cool girl'. A lot of women don't want to seem bitchy, so they tell you that yes, they're so totally fine with you going to a strip club. Then they're not cool with it, then take it out on you. That picture isn't even a shit test. Men do exactly the same thing! Oh, I'll just make fun of her and neg her a bit, she'll totally understand that I'm interested. It's a big stereotype in my country. And those guys are universally creepy.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 01:57 AM |
| 0 | Stable lesbian relationships: What gives?Those are all figures from the last three years in the United Kingdom, at least as far as I know. They're fairly accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/15 01:44 AM |
| 1 | Stable lesbian relationships: What gives?And a 1982 study by a straight person born in the 1940's is meant to be more objective? Even though it's basically the only study that actually claims bed death is a thing? In the original study - if you've read it, which I can assume you haven't - I would argue that the findings were tainted by poor methodology and a narrow definition of sexual activity. But TRP types are all the same, you don't like facts and evidence getting in the way of your anti-women circlejerk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 01:49 PM |
| 1 | What are the downsides of the carousel for women?I disagree with it. I agree that there is more risk with a large partner count (10+), but that isn't just women. Everyone knows guys who spend their entire life in a pussy parade, drinking and smoking until they're that creepy guy at high school/college parties. Then they go back to their shitty cockroach filled apartment and drink some more. You'd be surprised how common it is among alcoholic men (anecdotally speaking). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 01:42 PM |
| 1 | What other scientific models are there to evolutionary psychology and behavioural economics, that we could use to contest the validity of the Red Pill?Oh no, Evo Psych has some interesting material. I just think that a lot of TRP guys use it to confirm their biases, using poor studies posted on someone's blog. There is a huge split and I think a lot of people fall prey to common sense science fallacies with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Stable lesbian relationships: What gives?So is the original bed death study. They're both from the same year. Journal of Sex Research, 2009, 46:57 - has a much more recent study but you're going to be able to need to access it. It confirms that gay men and lesbians have more sexually and emotionally satisfying relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 01:38 PM |
| 2 | What are the downsides of the carousel for women?I've seen people say that 1-3 partners is acceptable, 3-6 is pushing it and anything over 7 is high. Given that in the US, the average is below 10 people per person, I think they stress over basically nothing. Even then, who cares if she had a lot of sex? Sex feels good and it means that it's a priority for her to seek out. To me, there are some important things to consider: Was it just insecurity? If insecurity, fuck off. Will most of it continue during an LTR? It would also mean you, their par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 04:20 AM |
| 7 | What are the downsides of the carousel for women?I think the downsides are the perceptions of the woman afterwards. There's the worry that she might be broken. What if she had daddy issues? What if she's just panicking and picked me to be stable? Is she going to go for another guy to fill her sexual urges? How can I compete? THAT is the main downside. I think the other downside is that the woman is going to be aware of what really good sex is. She's going to have discovered what she wants. So, if she marries a guy who is perfect but terrible i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Stable lesbian relationships: What gives?3.4% of gay men divorce their partner. 6.1% of lesbians divorce their partner. 42% of heterosexual marriages end in divorce. If you marry under the age of 20 as a heterosexual, then the rate goes up to 53%. While women request 65% of divorces currently, the rate for men has been going upwards. The two biggest reasons for divorce are unreasonable behavior at 41% (abuse, being controlling) and cheating at 15%. Divorce rates are falling, which suggests that eventually it will level out. In terms of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Stable lesbian relationships: What gives?Lesbian bed death is a myth. Lesbians have better, more frequent and more satisfying sex than heterosexual couples. Lesbian and gay male divorce rates are also roughly the same. http://www.jstor.org/stable/3812419?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents In the same way, lesbians enjoy more equal power dynamics and are satisfied with being more equal. See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7166639 You are completely wrong. You also clearly don't understand sex between women and how even if they have lower … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 03:45 AM |
| 9 | BP, if you had the chance to clean up TRP, what would you change? What would you keep?Ooh, interesting thread. I think there are a couple of things I would lessen/get rid of: Dread Game. I think that the more extreme version of it will interfere with the ability of either person in a relationship to build love and trust. I think it is a good idea; you should always work on yourself, keep your friends, hobbies and not make your SO your life. You should be able to leave if the relationship turns bad. Women get told this advice a lot! E.g. keep in touch with friends and family, have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 03:33 AM |
| 2 | What other scientific models are there to evolutionary psychology and behavioural economics, that we could use to contest the validity of the Red Pill?What I suspect, is that rather than the natural order being men one way and women the other, behavior is a spectrum. In a successful relationship, partners must mesh well with their behaviors. The most common of these personalities and behaviors is one person being dominant and protective, with another being submissive and pliant. It means that men who are submissive, will mesh better with a woman who is more domineering and protective. It seems to be the same in gay relationships; one person ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 03:12 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Sorry for the slow reply! Shaving generally leaves very small micro-abrasions on the surface of the skin, which allows bacteria to enter. In addition to this, it is much more likely to result in ingrown hairs and as a result, abscesses. http://www.cdc.gov/hai/pdfs/ssi/SSI_tagged-BW.pdf - CDC http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-health/11087771/Pubic-hair-8-things-you-need-to-know-before-you-shave.html - has a link and article about shaving. If you don't feel like reading the article, here is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 02:25 AM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Except she did take responsibility. She told him the truth, told him what happened and she also got herself out of the abusive relationship. He was the one who looked for the tape then proceeded to watch it. How else is she meant to take responsibility? She didn't trickle truth him, she didn't outright lie, she was still willing to make a new tape with him. You're not half as logical as you think you are. You just come off as a bitter divorcee. Misandry isn't a real thing, no matter how hurt you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/15 02:15 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Nobody is saying you should beg. That said, please never practice any BDSM. You'll just end up hurting someone with your special snowflake crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 09:48 AM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Holy fuck. Misandry? Are you goddamn serious? Where's the misandry there? Is there a systematic oppression of your needs and wants because she had a bad experience she doesn't want to repeat? He deliberately and methodically went looking for something he knew was going to upset him. She didn't lie to him. She still wanted to replace the sex tape experience with the partner she is actually in love with. Sure, she made a mistake staying with that guy, but lots of people get into abusive relationsh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 09:15 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Are you fucking serious? Or are you just a terrible partner? I'm guessing it's the latter. You like anal beads and she doesn't, so your options are: Talk to her about it. Is it a hard limit or not? If it's a hard limit, you don't get your way. If it's a soft limit she's willing to try, then you try to be thoughtful. Do you want to make her cum like a fucking freight train? Treat her to a nice dinner? Do something she likes, since she's putting herself out there for you. It's called give and take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 09:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.I see where you're coming from. I think that your girlfriend is less influenced by feminism and more by some of the strange things that mothers often teach their daughters. Or that friends end up talking about. Oh, your boyfriend wants to try anal? I was like totally NO way unless you're going first! It's a counter reaction to how common and expected uncomfortable things are expected now, e.g. anal, ATM, rough face fucking, donkey punching. I think that your girlfriend just needs to understand t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 05:33 AM |
| 1 | [Case Study] Do you think AF/BB is wrong?Asshole forces his girlfriend into anal because he'll basically cheat if she doesn't give in. Asshole husband digs up tape from an abandoned laptop and proceeds to watch it. Then gets angry about the fact that she isn't giving him anal or a sex tape even though she was clearly upset and sexually assaulted. But you know, you too can have those things if you don't give a shit about your partner. Did you just not read the goddamn thread? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 03:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.I agree with this so much. Growing up with porn conditions people to be aroused and want certain things that are either not possible, rare or take a long time to work up to. Take anal; at one point, it wasn't remotely common. Now, guys who have grown up in a world where it's bog standard ask for it the second they get with a girl. It's the same way with women who shave. It's unhygienic, comes with a higher risk of abscesses and ingrown hairs and is very expensive to have done properly. But dudes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 03:35 AM |
| 4 | CMV: The reason ED is so common.Here's the thing: it doesn't need to be 50/50 on exactly the same things. If you like anal and she finds it uncomfortable, then you can take the time out of your day to listen to how her day was. Or to take some time to make her a nice dinner. Or maybe you like getting blowjobs and she likes it when you tease her. It's the idea of give and take. If you have one person taking pleasure from sex and just doing what they want to do, it's easy for the other person to feel disconnected. And sometimes,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?Sorry for the slow reply. Are you really saying that cheating is worse than raping your spouse? Seriously. There are steps you take first; talking, therapy, telling your partner that you'll be going elsewhere if they just aren't interested anymore. After that, you cheat if you can't get divorced. I don't condone it but it's better than forcing your spouse. That is rape your mod is advocating. And you guys wonder why people say you're rapists. It might be less sexy to ask but what the hell happen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/15 12:56 AM |
| 3 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?I'm not. But most of those examples were US based, since I know that most posters here are from the US. I don't think there is a conflict of interest, either. I think people just need to get the fuck over themselves and look at things logically. So much good could be done if extreme MRA's would stop complaining about feminists and extreme feminists could stop being derailing fuckheads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 04:06 PM |
| 3 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?Someone else. Seriously. If you marry someone who breaks their end of the bargain, you fuck someone else before trying to fuck someone against their consent. There can be a lot of reasons people withdraw from sex and it isn't ideal, but it does happen. And while a lot of chicks do like it, what the fuck happens when he find someone who doesn't want it rough? I'm not denying that a lot of chicks like rough sex but jesus. The fact that he doesn't give a shit about consent is... disturbing. Once ag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?Sure thing. http://i.imgur.com/7Vr2QaE.png - spousal rape isn't a real thing because sex is the only thing women bring to a relationship. https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2niin0/be_the_caveman_that_she_wants/ https://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/1ce3qx/a_feminist_takes_off_gloves_and_debates_sexual/c9g2l7c - mod of TRP saying that if you marry, you're consenting to sex. If you ever don't want sex just don't get married. http://i.imgur.com/opkEwOx.png http://redpillgame.com/5-ti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 03:06 PM |
| 4 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?Seriously? How do women benefit from men going to prison? Or basically becoming state mandated lone mothers? Fun fact, while people assume divorce financially affects men more, men tend to see a 7% decrease in their needs-adjusted income in comparison to women, who see a 23% decrease in their own income. Most feminists do campaign and argue in favour of egalitarian roles in child rearing. See places like Sweden and the UK, where men now get to have paternal leave. Also, in Sweden, the bond betwe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 02:31 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?Good luck dude. Only you know the right answer. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?Nope. But you can ask her if she would be willing to try therapy. If she'd be willing to try with you at her side and if she was willing to try things you suggest. I was like that when I was younger. One day I realised I wanted to be the best person I could be for my (then future) SO and myself. So I swallowed my anxiety and got the fuck on with it. Not saying that it will happen, just that you'll never know whether or not it could have been amazing, okay or terrible without trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:40 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?Have a chat to her. Tell her that you want to be exclusive but that you have certain things you would expect by a certain point. Again, do NOT financially support her or let her move in. You are independent people who should make each other's lives better while having your own lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:14 PM |
| 3 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?There are, but there are a lot of overlapping issues. I also grew up watching my dad get abused by my mother while the police arrested him each time, if they had any alcohol in their systems. I also was a counselor for a while and saw things that were just fucked up for men in society. Weirdly enough, most academic feminism tends to embrace the idea that sexism sometimes severely and adversely affects men. For example, custody of children. Mothers tend to win default custody. This is sexist beca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:11 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?My perspective is that she might have feelings. If you value her as a friend then you can be honest and say - you want to vent, but not if she has feelings. Right now, she's willing to be your FWB without reciprocation and even if she has feelings, that's her choice. That's the best thing you can do. As for my guy friends, I am in a very long LTR. I don't do FWB. That said, I never talk to a guy ever again if they show any hint of feelings or attraction towards me. Same with chicks. I would gues… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Is spinning plates the male equivalent of having a lot of friendzoned guys around?So, I'm not technically a BP person, but I'll offer you some advice from my perspective. Tell her that you want to discuss something with her as though she were a good guy friend. Tell her that you don't want to do that if she thinks she might have feelings for you, because you think that's a shitty thing to do. Be honest that it'll be about a girl you have feelings for and that you want to vent. From my experience - I'm a chick and chicks are much more honest with each other about their FWBs. T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 11:16 AM |
| 0 | Blue Pill, by your logic, how come I'm doing so much better with women now than before I found TRP?It's not that Atheists have no faith, per se. It's more that they see life as finite, precious and beautiful. You have to make the most of it. There may well be an afterlife, but we can't prove that. So in the meantime, be a good person and live life to the fullest. Of course, there is the odd teenager who thinks that life is pain and suffering, but most adult Atheists/Agnostics tend to just view what we have as infinitely precious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 10:31 AM |
| 3 | Does /r/TheRedPill sub give the ideology a bad name?I think that the sub definitely gives TRP a bad name. There is a ton of documented evidence of guys basically admitting to raping people. Whether or not it's true, any semblance of being reasonable goes out of the window when you play host to that kind of thing. Same with the level of anger; a lot of the guys could really do with counseling. That said, there are other problematic parts of the ideology. Mostly the more extreme forms of dread game and the bits which advocate pushing past last minu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?Sorry for the slow reply. You are correct that women initiate the majority of divorces; 65% is the actual figure. It's not my area of law, but it's an interest of mine. I don't think of it as abandonment for either gender. You shouldn't stay with someone who you can't stand, even if it's for a petty reason. Waste of life. 15% of those divorces are due to spousal infidelity. 46% also cite 'unreasonable behaviour', e.g. jealousy, being controlling, being abusive. Given that divorce rates between g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/15 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?And how many men leave their wives because they get sick, fat or can't get pregnant? In my experience, a lot of them do. That said, I agree with you - men are more likely to be divorced due to financial issues. There is a lot of unfair and toxic pressure on men to be breadwinners. This is especially true for people in the upper and upper-middle class sections of society. It's also why I despair when people get trophy wives (also, trophy husbands). Never have a partner who isn't in work or educat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Sex positive Red Piller here – a low N count would actually be a red flag to meIt's the same for men, though. Why would they settle for a good mother for their children and being faithful, if they've been banging hot sluts their entire lives? Aren't they more likely to cheat for just one more taste of a good thing? In the same line of thinking, when are beta guys ever going to be faithful when they finally get to fuck someone really hot? How can you ever really trust anyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 01:41 PM |
| 0 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?People are fundamentally the same. There are some differences, e.g. men are stronger and more protective, women are more compassionate and gentle. Women are more likely to stick with a 'defective' partner when it's something serious (cancer, mental illness) but nobody wants to stick with a partner who has no reason for being constantly.. whiny. That is fundamentally the same between men and women, different cultures, religions and sexualities. Sorry if I wasn't clear, I was writing late at night… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 01:34 PM |
| 1 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?http://www.joseluisdiaz.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/PerceptionSuffering_MenWomen_Mercadillo2011.pdf Evidence of women being more compassionate. & you know damn well that women being at least slightly 'weaker' and more 'vulnerable' is a desirable trait in western society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:56 AM |
| 3 | Sex positive Red Piller here – a low N count would actually be a red flag to meI disagree. I'm afraid I'll have to go off anecdotes, which I hope that you will forgive me for. People with a low N count are more likely to be lazy within a relationship. They're less likely to work as part of a team and are more likely to have some of the following; insecurity, religious issues, oversensitive, less likely to be sexually open. People with a low N count tend to be more likely to cause relationship issues. Oh, you watched porn? I'm going to rave my tits off because that's disgus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:50 AM |
| 1 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?I like that I give you evidence that men are more likely to ditch their partner and you still act like women are the bad people in this. It is a biological imperative that women are compassionate. You're also ignoring the fact that each gender has something that makes them less attractive. Short men are considered unattractive? So are tall girls. So are fat girls. So are really skinny girls. You know that these things are true. You can see this on Reddit a lot, say in fatpeoplehate. Same with me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Sex positive Red Piller here – a low N count would actually be a red flag to meI think it's more that I see life as being precious and short. You shouldn't 'settle' for someone, in the way that you don't settle for cucumber when you want steak. You should be in a relationship where both partners pull their weight, pick up the slack if the other is in trouble. For example, you marry a woman. You're happy for ten years, then BAM. Dead bedroom. You try for months to just let her deal with it. You try for longer, just trying to talk to her to find out why she's like this, why … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:18 AM |
| 4 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?Except all of the replies talk about how women definitely can't stand men being weak or emotional, when in reality, men are the ones who are less likely to stick with their partner. Whether or not it's socialised or biological, women are more faithful, more compassionate and much more likely to stick by a partner who is damaged. Those are facts. Again, nobody wants a partner who is essentially just an emotional and mental/physical drain to be around. It's not women. It's people. There are fundam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 02:01 AM |
| 5 | Do women really leave men for little things like if they cried or showed weakness sometime?Eh. That's just how people are. Nobody wants to be in a relationship with a needy, insecure partner. After a while, they leech all of your energy without ever reciprocating. I've seen it really equally in men and women. Being emotionally vulnerable in a healthy manner is attractive for both genders. It demonstrates that they would be mentally stable enough to engage in an LTR and have children. We've all heard stories of emotionally distant and repressed parents basically being awful for develop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 01:43 AM |
| 2 | Sex positive Red Piller here – a low N count would actually be a red flag to meI've never understood this reasoning. Seriously. It may be theoretically easier for a woman to be able to find sex, but you're discounting all the other variables that make it challenging. You have to be sure that person isn't a lunatic, dangerous or a rapist. Women tend to be physically weaker than men, so putting themselves into a very vulnerable position makes it more difficult. Most women also have it drilled into their heads that they have to be good. Only sluts have casual sex. And you alw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/15 12:50 AM |
| 3 | if red pill is so wrong where's the blue pill guide to fulfilment, relationships and workplace success? where are all the people saying they owe their successes in life to blue-pillism?It's a common thing that is said and misinterpreted. It should be 'teach people what situations are okay, dodgy or not fucking okay'. Or 'teach men what rape is under the law'. Like, if you're sober and they're wasted, don't fuck them. If you're 30 and they're 15, don't fuck them, even if they consent. If you're both wasted, go fuck. But some people seem to think men need to be told, 'howdy ya'll did you know rape is bad?' edit: As for men=bad and women=good, it's a common trope and is meant to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 01:43 AM |
| 2 | What is the solution for an ugly 5'9" male? Be honest. I'd like TRP to present their case to me. [CMV]Women don't like you because you're a whiny little bitch. Your life is a shitshow and you probably have nothing of value that comes through quickly (intelligence, 'poor' looks, a good career, sense of humour). Work on yourself. Get some hobbies, get some friends, live a life that a person can become part of. I get the impression that they would basically BE your life. Sorry to be harsh. But your posts are just... excuses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 01:01 AM |
| 2 | How do ya'll feel about lesbians?That is common. A lot of gay guys also like making out with chicks or cuddling them. There are also a lot of 'straight' guys who will do stuff with guys, just less likely to admit it. Same for straight girls. If you're not a solid 1 or 6 then there is the possibility of finding a person really irresistible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/15 12:53 AM |
| 7 | Blue Pill, why is it bad for big brothers to be ashamed of their younger sisters exposing themselves to STDs?Those are exactly the sort of people who would constantly nag you at work over your unhealthy coffee intake. They get off on the feeling of self-righteousness because they don't have anything else of value to add. I think that you SHOULD be concerned, at least a little, if someone has fucked that many people before the age of 21. I would want to make sure my little sister was using protection (barrier and hormonal) and wasn't doing it for reasons other than liking sex. If you like sex and want t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/15 03:36 AM |
| 1 | What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?He is crazy. In the UK for example, out of 5651 rapes prosecuted, only 35 (0.6%) were found to be false allegations. For domestic abuse, there were over 100,000 claims and only six of those were determined to be false claims. It is quite hard to actually get a case to court when it involves rape, and it's also hard to prosecute. When it comes to DV, you usually need photographic evidence from police/a hospital to stand a chance of a conviction. As a quick reference, afaik, false theft reports ho… | /r/MensRights | 10/07/15 04:29 AM |
| 2 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?There is definitely a difference, I wish there were better stats. As far as I'm aware there are issues with violence and sexual violence, but much, much less. It's a lot safer and would be safer if the government would get off their ass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/15 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?Yup, I always try to have actual sources. I hope your friends stay safe by the way, I've known some people who have worked in the sex trade and it can be such a mixed bag of experiences. 50-70% entered prostitution underage, with a median age of 15 - Home Office (2004). Paying the Price 70% were were in the fostering system or in the care of local authorities, with 50%ish reporting childhood abuse - Benson, C. and Matthews, R. (1995), Street prostitution: Ten facts in search of a policy. Interna… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/15 08:35 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?I definitely agree that the bulk of the harm comes from having prostitution be illegal. I am actually from the UK and definitely think it's much, much better here than in the States. They're still twelve times more likely to be murdered than the average person, mind you. Also 48% have experienced sexual violence from clients, including anal rape, strangling, attempted kidnapping and so on and so forth. Basically, the most serious forms of violence outside of murder. Most of the stats I mentioned… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/15 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?Sorry for the slow response. I think that prostitution should be legal and I think brothels should be legal. I think that it would need to be strict policing because as I mentioned earlier, legalized prostitution tends to help fund human trafficking. Just at the minute, I would kind of judge a guy for picking up a streetwalker. In my country, the majority (60%) of street-walking prostitutes started when they were teenagers (13-16). A frighteningly large number of prostitutes who do that have bee… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/15 12:00 AM |
| 3 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?I didn't say that it was bad. Just that I would be against characterising it as being a safe job or viewing it through rose-tinted glasses. Prostitution still has a much, much higher death rate than any other job - even the dangerous ones that men do. The death rate per 100k workers is around 22 for forestry and agriculture and 10 for construction, with mining and oil-field workers being 12 per 100k workers in the same job. I can go dig up my source for those rates if you want. The issue between… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 05:04 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with Dread Game?It's true. I really hate the duluth model of gendering domestic violence. I can't tell you how often my mother has threatened to poison/murder/stab/etc my father and family and the police just don't really care. That said, I get that the police have really limited resources - I just wish that they'd stop using an out of date model based on 1970s theory. The idea that women were being abused was hard enough to swallow and the idea that men could be abused was unthinkable. There is no need for it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 04:38 PM |
| 4 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?Sure, but there are certain professions where the risks are so much higher. There is a much higher likelihood that you're going to get sexually assaulted, have the other person remove the condom half way, much more chance that you'll be verbally assaulted or blackmailed or stalked. Yes, there are ways to mitigate risks, but it's a fact that prostitutes are more at risk. There is a reason that the murder rate for call girls is 229 per 100k, compared to 18 per 100k for Taxi drivers. Check out SAAF… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 04:34 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with Dread Game?It's messed up. I don't think anyone can argue that stuff like that isn't horrible. Treating your partner like they're no better than a pet or a child isn't conducive to having a healthy relationship. As I said though, those sorts of books and dread game - they're not healthy for either partner. They mostly exist to help people who are in (or have been) in failed, failing, abusive and incompatible relationships. I did say that it's messed up, regardless of whether or not you're the guy using dre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 04:11 PM |
| 2 | What's wrong with Dread Game?You argued that all of those things are manipulative. You argued that nothing is wrong with dread game. I replied to you telling you how those things and similar things aren't manipulative and why and how dread game is unhealthy when done by either gender. I understand that you don't like being disagreed with though, because it's hard to handle hearing that you're basically engaging in destructive behavior towards yourself and other people. But nice ad hominem, either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 04:05 PM |
| 9 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?You should check out a couple of the forums for independent working girls. While a decent amount do enjoy their job, the majority of them have been attacked, scammed, had guys remove condoms etc at least a couple of times. It's really not as safe or as rosy as you portray it. Streetwalking is even worse; the women and men who have to do that are at a HUGE risk of violence, pimping, robbery, theft and rape. There is also the fact that you really don't know if the person providing you services is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 04:01 PM |
| 6 | Why do some women view men who visit prostitutes as unattractive and shame them?I think (at least for me), is I know that especially where prostitution is legal, it basically becomes a hotbed of trafficking. Places like the Netherlands, Australia and Germany have so many women trafficked in against their will and I just don't think I could look at a guy or girl who used those services, knowing what they might have supported. Same reason I don't like strip clubs, the amount of Eastern European women who get forced into it makes me uneasy. And unlike supporting various exploi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 03:34 PM |
| 1 | What's wrong with Dread Game?See, I've seen women reference stuff like the rules. Usually it just means that they treat their partner, friends and family like crap and then they instill those ideas in their kids. Dread game, likewise, has probably the same share of proponents who do the same thing, e.g. taking it too far, usually because they're tired of being in bad relationships. I think maybe TRP and all those self help books for women... they're part of moving on from being in bad relationships, or being unable to hold … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 03:25 PM |
| 12 | What's wrong with Dread Game?See, if a woman pulled that dread game shit, you'd say she was a massive cunt. Intentionally reminding your SO over and over that they're not special and you can leave any time, is fucked up. It's the same bullshit behavior women use to walk all over their partners, by reminding them that they are disposable. They are not special. They can be left in the gutter at any time. I don't care who does it, it's fucked up. You know how you can actually not be a doormat? By simply not being a fucking doo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/15 09:04 AM |
| 1 | Even if TRP was 100% SJW-friendly: they would still hate it.So, I know this is old, but I'll offer you a viewpoint that you may not have considered. When girls are growing up into women, they typically read magazines like Cosmo. Those magazines often (at least when I was 15-19) had massive guides on how to get guys interested in you. Eventually, those same women realise that advice from 'improvement guides' is often terrible. It's often manipulative and teaches girls to fake a personality to attract guys. I remember one tip saying that if your guy likes … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/15 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Prove/disprove the gender pay gap?http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/the-new-politics-of-rail-privatisation/ The tl;dr is that short of massive price hikes, the majority of companies cannot sustain their business as it stands. This leads to repeated bail outs because the railway system is too important to allow it to fail. Anything where it is too important to the public interest to be allowed to fail, should be overseen or run by the government. This is mostly to avoid double-dipping and wasting income, e.g. being taxed w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Prove/disprove the gender pay gap?Doesn't that shut down all hope of reasonable discussion, though? I'm a democratic socialist, yet I still listen to opposing viewpoints, because I'd much rather be open to discussion than have concrete ideals. Every now and then, government intervention is a good thing. Sometimes it's not. For example, it would be hugely better if my government ran train services. OTOH, allowing private companies to compete over phone and broadband service has been an immeasurably successful section of privatisa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 09:34 AM |
| 1 | Prove/disprove the gender pay gap?I agree with you about that, although I think if the majority of jobs were healthier workplaces in general, you would see more women doing those jobs. Like seriously. Jobs that put money before anything else tend to have negative effects on the men who take those jobs. Though that is their choice. I don't think there are many jobs where men are inherently better. I think with the exception of some jobs, like firefighters and frontline soldier, the two are roughly about par intellectually with ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 08:07 AM |
| 4 | Prove/disprove the gender pay gap?I think the trigger warning, lol. It just comes off as kinda rude and cunty more than anything. You know that TW's are meant to be for things that might set off things like anorexia or PTSD? Not just because someone might dislike something you said. Just because people are asshats who misuse it, doesn't mean that you should. (I didn't down-vote you, fyi). I think that you are also incorrect in your analysis, in a sense. Women and men tend to start out on the same playing field, with both having … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 03:07 AM |
| 3 | Looking for a blue pill perspective on this avfm articleSo... I find this interesting and agree with some of it, yet at the same time, find it pretentious. I feel as though Mr. Elam views men's role within society and within stories as less than it used to be. I'll just spitball some ideas, so they might not be neat. Mr. Elam subscribes to a very strange view of the past, where men had all these incredible choices and immeasurable freedom. This simply isn't true. If he thinks men suffer more now, from the weight of being a provider, he is wrong. The … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 02:47 AM |
| 8 | BP/PPers: How will you raise your sons to avoid needing to resort to TRP?See, I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Both genders like attractive people. That should be a given. I'm not sure why men should expect to have their hands held and to be explicitly told that women like physically attractive men. Now, if we take attractiveness as a given, there is a much less standard 'attractiveness' for men. Women tend to like how a man makes them feel. You can be pretty but you gotta have that one thing that drives her crazy, and that bit differs a lot. Some women … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/15 12:07 AM |
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