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| 21 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently. | sparklepuff97 | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 06:48 AM |
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| 1 | From a Woman; I don't know why this group popped up on my feed. But I hope you all get the fair societal treatment you want.This is common knowledge for anyone not living under a rock, but just so it is made explicit: Dobbs vs. Jackson Women's Health Organization (2022) resulted in overruling of Roe v. Wade (1973) & Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992). It marked the loss of a woman's right to a safe & legal abortion, regardless of whether she lives in a red or blue state, by turning over the ability to define abortion rights/restrictions to the state governments. This has already opened the gates for all sorts of "tri… | /r/MensRights | 19/07/22 03:12 AM |
| 5 | From a Woman; I don't know why this group popped up on my feed. But I hope you all get the fair societal treatment you want.It is hard to find articles that include both male & female birth control. This one cites a study. It doesn't include pulling out or the "natural family planning"-type methods people use, that involve timing a woman's cycle. There's a lot of apps that claim to be natural birth control/do this. (I wouldn't trust either method at all though, personally.) https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/better-birth-control-hasnt-made-abortion-obsolete/ Many adolescents don't receive a proper sexual health edu… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/22 10:50 PM |
| 5 | From a Woman; I don't know why this group popped up on my feed. But I hope you all get the fair societal treatment you want.I am a female and commented in a thread here a few days ago. I share your sentiment & support men's issues wholeheartedly (I have two older brothers, who are my best friends), but faced a lot of criticism (getting compared to a Nazi multiple times despite stating I am jewish and that the analogy upset me, etc.). It was a thread about feminism though, which is controversial & feels divisive for many. "It's not a competition and regressing the rights of one sex doesn't help the opposite sex...We n… | /r/MensRights | 16/07/22 09:33 PM |
| 3 | From a Woman; I don't know why this group popped up on my feed. But I hope you all get the fair societal treatment you want.I believe it is between 1 in 5 or 1 in 6 women that need one at some point in their lives. Unfortunately, no form of birth control, whether it is pills, IUDs, a vasectomy, etc. are 100% effective at preventing pregnancy. EDIT: not sure why this is getting downvoted, these are just statistics. | /r/MensRights | 16/07/22 09:25 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I'm a biologist lol | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 06:36 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Those are your words, not mine or anyone else's. I am trying to figure out how to disable notifications because I am finished with this thread. You guys are not open to any of my ideas, which is fine. I still support men's rights. But I'm just wasting my time here. | /r/MensRights | 13/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I edited because my wording/grammar was off. I did not say I am in anti male movement. If that is your basic premise for feminism (which is defined as equality of the sexes, NOT anti-anything...literally look in a dictionary), then we can't have a conversation anymore. I am not anti-male. I am anti whatever BS you think I'm promoting. Seeya later. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 07:21 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I said the white feather was propaganda. It was created by the suffragettes, as the person I was replying to said (erilaz123 aka OP). I didn't lie about anything. My entire comment was a concession that feminism has made mistakes/shortcomings: "These shortcomings are things modern feminists (the real ones who bother to study history) take into account. Feminism is a work in progress. Intersectionality, the acknowledgement of where different people's experiences overlap & which includes men, is a… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 07:11 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Yes it is fragmented, there are many different branches (i.e. fragments) of it. We do not all agree on one common feminist doctrine/set of ideals. Look for yourself. It is the same as any other social movement where people have different backgrounds and viewpoints. I said multiple times that feminisms is a work in progress (I made a separate comment about intersectionality). We absolutely should not keep it stagnant. I do reject what you are saying, because I said I am against misandry. You cont… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 07:09 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.And now I'm being likened to a religious nut. Seriously? Your "views" on my commentary are invalid because they are not true. You can have those opinions about other feminists, but I made it explicitly clear what I believe and what I do not believe in. Misandry is something I am vehemently against. I am speaking for myself ("I" only), which I can do. I want I want the best for men. My brothers are the only family I have since we lost our mother almost 20 years ago and are some of the best people… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 06:59 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.So my life experience is thereby entirely wrong, simply because it is not the same as yours/young men's? I literally described how I was abused in my own home, by my parent (and how I learned about misandry from this). You didn't mention that women have lived experiences too, even once. There is no "victim" group here, people of all genders experience trauma. This is exactly why we need intersectionality. Our experiences overlap more than you realize. But before that discussion, how fucking dare… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 06:32 PM |
| 0 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.History is history. I am sorry they aren't listening to you. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 05:22 PM |
| 0 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I'm curious as to why you think denying women the right to vote is not oppressive? At the time of first wave feminism, there were many overwhelmingly male groups, who quite literally organized just to oppose women getting the vote. The anti-suffrage movement was alive and well (there was literally a "National Association Opposed to Woman Suffrage" and others). Wouldn't you be upset if someone stood in your way of your ability to vote and make decisions? (Yes, since you are in this forum). It too… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 05:10 PM |
| 0 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Well said! It isn't synonymous with female supremacy. I talked about the troubled roots of the movement in previous comments. There has always been an element of racism, but many scholars (there are many, many Black feminists, including the wonderful Kimberle Crenshaw) today are elaborating on feminist theory to make it more inclusive. I will keep linking this article about intersectionality: https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/5/20/18542843/intersectionality-conservatism-law-race-gender-disc… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 05:04 PM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Well put. It doesn't happen in a vacuum (every person's story is unique) and it is definitely hard to understand the real scope of the problem. I agree that there likely are not many truly bad seeds (i.e. those who would resort to violence), I think it is because of the media coverage that the problem feels inflated. I do not believe women are the sole root of the phenomenon (we aren't all a bunch of bimbos looking for the Chaddiest Chad, and we have issues of our own that infringe on forming re… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:53 PM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I am not seeing anything specifically about German feminism here, but there are a lot of comments so I need to re-read. There is nothing immaterial about what I said. I responded to a question that was asked to feminists, and I am a feminist. There is nothing irrelevant about that. You telling me my opinions are somehow unimportant to this discussion on *feminism* is honestly rude. I am not sure how my abilities are reflected in a short series of comments. You seem very intent on discrediting me… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:23 PM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I'm less familiar with British history but was taught a little bit during my first women's history course. I do know the suffrage movement had its own controversies and flaws overseas. The white feather is a strange piece of propaganda indeed, not something I would support nor would the feminists I know, and a reminder that feminism has been militant in the past. The young men who risked everything for their country deserved better treatment, to be sure. In the US only one suffragist (supporter … | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 08:54 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Whoops, this was actually where I defined intersectionality better: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vwknjv/comment/ifth2hp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 I've been very active in this thread LOL | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 06:11 AM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I wrote a really long response to this thread, where I explain some of the history & intersectionalism better. Will try to link it somehow. https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/vwknjv/comment/ifsshvo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 Intersectionalism is not about avoiding ridicule. Quite the opposite. It's about bridging everyone's experiences where they overlap. The evil that different groups are facing often comes from the same source. Since there are different forms of p… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 05:59 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.You describe our human needs very eloquently. I am autistic and understand being isolated. I have also experienced a great deal of rejection form the opposite sex. However, I do not blame men or society for my rejection, I blame the specific individuals who rejected me and them alone. I can understand the necessaity for incel spaces to exist, and support men being vulnerable about their feelings. I don't agree with any feminist who tries to debate that incels have an inherent right to exist. But… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I think what she is saying is that as a woman, she is naturally a proponent for women's equality (what self-respecting woman wouldn't be?). Feminism is a concept defined as the complete social and economic equality of the sexes (per Google, "the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes."). Anything else is just feminist theory, which varies. Someone may not openly identify as a feminist, which is fine, but most people fit this basic definition if they believe in equal… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:55 AM |
| -1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.I appreciate your take as a feminist, I hit some similar points in my original response. People on opposite sides really do feel that advocating for the "other" (men's or women's) issues undermines progress towards alleviating their own. It is saddening. Feminism has never been anti-male-- extremist feminists, a minority, can be. Yet the way I hear feminism described at times makes me think that many men think all feminists are the second-coming of Valerie Solanas (google at your own risk). I ce… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:52 AM |
| 0 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.They are not mutually exclusive! Welcome to intersectionality. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Feminist here. I challenge you to read my longer response! Hope I can change your mind. :) | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:41 AM |
| 2 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Feminist here (who supports men's rights wholeheartedly). I tried to address misandry in my original longer response. :) I know it is real and believe most women do to. The conversation surrounding & language use in some feminist rhetoric can certainly give the impression that men are to be hated. But this is extremism, not the true beating heart of the movement. Unfortunately many feminists don't know how to discuss women's issues, without feeling like men's issues cannot be discussed at the sa… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:38 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.In my comment I tried to address your last point. Feminism has one very simple definition. Feminist theory (& cultural factors) are built off on this definition, giving rise to the excessive labels, offshoots and ultimately fragmentation. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 04:36 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Bravo. I tried to touch on the extremism and the pervasiveness of overgeneralization in feminist (and non-feminist) rhetoric, but didn't do so nearly as well and neglected the effects of one's background/geopolitics as well. Happy to upvote. Another feminist. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 03:42 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.They do indeed have a basis for responding. This thread prompted self-identified feminists to respond, there was no criterion for the response. WildWitch0306 shared their take/impressions, they weren't making specific claims about feminist theory or anything that would require a citation. I think they were very sensible. I'm in a STEM field and value evidence-based approaches as much as anyone. But you don't need to provide a laundry list of feminist resources to understand prevailing feminist v… | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 03:37 AM |
| 1 | A question for those who identify themselves as feminists.Feminist here. I responded, and hope it resembles good faith. I support men's interests & rights, and hope I can represent this side of things. Feminism is not a monolith, just as your movement isn't. :) | /r/MensRights | 12/07/22 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Very well said. Illogical sexism can affect anyone. How this happens is multifactorial as you describe (privilege and other lived experiences, particularly in relationships, undoubtedly being huge contributors). As feminist who aspires to keep an open mind, I do wish feminism didn't have the bad name and inflammatory tendencies it has now in many circles, given how unprecedented the suffrage movement and other milestones surrounding the advent of modern feminism really were, in the US and global… | /r/ExRedPill | 17/06/22 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.I think you're being sarcastic about telling him and probably already know that no self-respecting woman would go out of her way to tell a man to believe this stuff. (People can watch what they like on their own volition.) But dang, they weren't kidding about current RP guys being in this thread. 😳 | /r/ExRedPill | 15/06/22 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.(Though I understand this being a huge concern for people under different circumstances. It seems like most people do settle things in court in some way.) | /r/ExRedPill | 13/06/22 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.They settled outside of court. No money lost on either side. She has a very good job and makes quite a lot, and so does he (she definitely makes more, though). He got to keep their dog & stayed in their apartment. I believe she took some furniture but that's it. Nothing material was lost, only emotional damage. My dad tried bringing up alimony to him and he got extremely upset and flat out refused to talk about it since it hasn't been the case. It sounds she really does not want anything from hi… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/22 11:58 PM |
| 1 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Exactly. I used the alpha/beta language because I wanted to try to make some sort of tenuous Red Pill connection. I don't actually believe in that lol. I also only mentioned a tiny fraction of traits for both my brother and her, both of them are much more nuanced than that. Thank you for reading the whole bit about her. She had her moments (where she was indeed kind of a bully...but this was less intentional on her end and was just the result of being kind of dense/self-centered versus purposely… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/22 05:29 PM |
| 3 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Great points. This is exactly why I haven't spoken to him about it at all yet. I want to do the right things and not invalidate the pain he is feeling. There is a lot of wisdom in the responses I've received and I think there is a way to help him more indirectly. I don't want my feelings to get in the way. He needs to process this and that will take time and space. We do have another brother (who is a great human...they both are), and I'm hoping he can be of help as well, since he can empathize … | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Not the intended meaning of what I said, so I will elaborate a bit. I shouldn't have used the term alpha since I think it gave the notion that I align his ex with the RP alpha persona in a way that I actually don't. I don't anyone should act like an "alpha", to be honest. My brother has a ton of great qualities (I didn't talk about all of them, especially his physical appearance and stuff since that's weird as a sibling lol). He stands up for his beliefs. I wouldn't call him a push over whatsoev… | /r/ExRedPill | 12/06/22 05:22 PM |
| 3 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Thank you for your reply, you make some awesome points. This is a tangent, but honestly, the term "empath" drives me crazy. People are so convinced they have some sort of sixth sense, when in reality you have no way of knowing how someone else feels unless you talk to them and they confirm it in some way. Some people pay better attention to body language, context cues, etc., but even then you're still just making an educated guess? I will definitely take a step back and let him lead. I hope that… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 07:06 PM |
| 2 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Excellent points! I have avoided breaching the subject with him for that exact reason. He has felt persecuted enough recently. Giving him space might be the best option for now. It is hard because I am a sibling, so I doubt he would treat me differently as a result of RP influence. But I will keep compassion and empathy in mind and just do my best. Doing things outside honestly is great idea as well. He got to keep their dog and is a very enthusiastic dog dad, so I'm sure he'd love to go for som… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Understood. :) I don't know a ton about how they got together, so its hard to say. She is very pretty and I imagine had prospects, but maybe he was a safe option. I'd like to think that it was more than that if they made it work for a decade, but we will never know. I didn't live them or witness much of their home life, but honestly I think that she convinced herself that her unhappiness was because of their relationship, when in reality it was due to a combination of variables. She had started … | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 06:50 PM |
| 8 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Major congratulations on your publication. I respect anyone who does their research! Will definitely check it out. Great points. Red Pill ideology does serve a deeply therapeutic purpose. Its very existence illustrates, I think, how our society has outright failed to meet the collective needs of men navigating (predominantly but not limited to) relationship-based trauma, crises of identity, and feelings of isolation. So much of popular discourse instead seems predicated on the notion that the ha… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 05:59 PM |
| 4 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Could not disagree more. My brother's gentleness, sensitivity and other "beta" characteristics (not sure I'm using this language correctly, but I really don't care) are what make him a great person. His ex-wife is an extremely independent, successful and intelligent person (two Ivy League degrees). Historically, she held a lot of leadership positions both in her jobs and academic career. Her strong will and tenacity working in predominantly male spaces/teams were traits I admired. She wouldn't t… | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 04:51 PM |
| 3 | Female looking to help my brother who started watching redpill content recently.Thank you for your comment! I adore anything from bell hooks. Will check out both of those. I think he would definitely be open to some reading. | /r/ExRedPill | 10/06/22 01:18 PM |
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