spazdor Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
6	Whatever happened to that crowdfunded 'Tropes vs. Men in Videogames' project? [spoiler: OP did not deliver]		spazdor	/r/MensRights	08/03/13 07:18 PM

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1	"Men on Tinder are NOT as terrible as you think: Fake profile [of a woman] receives over 1,000 polite comments - and no abuse" Robot's profile made her look unmistakeably wealthy, attractive, privileged and confident, and mentioned that she's the CEO of an online dating blog with a pretty big web footprint. Hardly the target demograph for these kinds of nasty messages. If I were searching Tinder for women who would let me get away with verbally abusing them - as opposed to say, humiliating me online in front of an audience of thousands or millions - I would've swiped left on her.	/r/MensRights	18/02/15 06:43 AM
7	I normally ignore dumb Facebook posts but when it's from this girl who is constantly going on about feminism and equality I got frustrated. meanwhile, in /r/Feminism, "this is why you can't have a civil conversation with MRA's; they honestly believe feminists believe this is okay"	/r/MensRights	09/02/15 12:30 PM
-2	"You Can't Get Laid" - A Brilliant Analysis Of A Shaming Tactic if feminism has to keep SNL on-message, then the MRM really needs to rein in people like Howard Stern.	/r/MensRights	05/07/14 04:50 PM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. I like 'kyriarchy' theory for a lot of reasons, and I was sad to see it didn't gain wider traction than it did. I have usually seen private sphere issues as being the top priorities for men, moreso than for women, whose struggles have been more systemic and public in nature. The public men's issues, things like custody law and so on, I certainly find them important but I don't quite see them as being 'keystone' issues from which other issues stem, except for those particular ones relating to men…	/r/MensRights	14/06/14 10:18 AM
2	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. Safe to say, please don't be insulted when I tell you that what you said is hugely ironic to me. Thankfully, I now am able to chuckle and take your comment in the spirit of your good intent, as well as read that article critically without bursting into rage or tears. I'm glad you've come far enough to do so. I can see why a male survivor would find this article difficult, but nonetheless I think it can simultaneously be true that men be victims as individuals and the primary perpetuators of rape…	/r/MensRights	13/06/14 05:27 AM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. You seem to treat that 'rape culture' link as if the problems with it are self-evident, but I've read through it more than a few times in the past month or two and I honestly don't see the issue. What's being "laid at our feet" here? All I see in that article is an appeal to think about the safety dilemmas faced by others, and to think more carefully about the effects which our words and actions may have, as peers, on those around us who may be either abuse survivors or abusers themselves. None …	/r/MensRights	13/06/14 01:58 AM
11	Is this what they mean by "Male Privilege" So do we have any solutions here or are we just concerning ourselves with feminism's lack of solutions	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 10:58 PM
1	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. Ok, if we're gonna go list-style let's do this. Fighting "patriarchy" does not open Domestic Violence shelters for men No, and neither does any other symbolic position against ideas like misandry. This is something people from both movements see as important so no objection here. Fighting "patriarchy" does not change school policies that force young men and boys to be lobotomized by medications because they are acting like young boys do Fighting patriarchy might help us with the fallacy of "is-i…	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 08:11 PM
0	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. Just wanted to clarify, but are you making the "patriarchy hurts men too" argument? Sort of. In that bit I was trying to point out specifically how patriarchy hurts men in ways that subsequently cause them to hurt women and other men, in a manner which I don't think is quite mirrored by women's side of the story. This is no surprise, in a society which teaches half the population to be over-assertive and the other half to be over-empathetic.	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 05:38 AM
4	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. In some cases, it matters for triage reasons. There are problems facing women, and problems facing men, and we can care about both, but I think that the side effects of men's problems, in this society, constitute a bigger contribution to women's problems, than the converse. I think those particular men's issues ought to be our priority around here. To be clearer; I think that some of the issues facing boys and men, such as domestic abuse particularly in the case of young boys, whether they're pr…	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 04:31 AM
-3	As a woman, I came here expecting a load of bull, as the media portrays it.. Guys, would it be unreasonable to suggest that maybe the gender system does privilege men overall and that that it's okay to admit that and we're still allowed to have complaints? Am I being crazy here?	/r/MensRights	12/06/14 03:39 AM
1	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? You're on a great track here. What can we do in the real world, on a personal level and on a collective/institutional level, to help instill more of these healthy habits in boys and men? On a personal, individual level, I think the biggest solutions are clear: each of us can be a role model, and a teacher, an ear and a shoulder, for the boys in our lives. We can throw off the shackles of our own masculinity in public and visible ways. We can wear pink and watch chick-flicks and give each other r…	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 07:02 PM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Are you familiar with the field known as 'semiotics'?	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:34 AM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? I do not know specifically so I speculated at intelligence or coyness. To me, that is far more believable that "you find it sexy because society told you to find it sexy". Those are the exact same theory. You just said, essentially, that a socially-constructed association is a more plausible explanation than a socially-constructed association. Here's a question about one of women's most commonly alleged criteria for sexual selection. Are you ready? Here goes. What the heck is "status"?	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:12 AM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? If you're going to tell me that the quoted list is an exhaustive account of what is found sexy in our society, I have no choice but to conclude you literally have no idea what the word 'society' means. I gave you a very simple example of an attraction which doesn't appear on your list, and you apparently think that's 'off topic'. edit: I know perfectly well how genetics works, and I'm using the fact that the notion of a "hot for glasses" gene is ridiculous, to blow a massive hole in your attract…	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 03:02 AM
3	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I think it's a mistake to conflate privilege with the expectations of masculinity. Boys have been emotionally stifled by their cultures' conceptions of manhood for a lot longer than social justice theory has been popular. I personally agree with the claim that men are privileged in many important ways, and I also think it's critically, urgently important that men be given more healthy emotional outlets. Nothing contradictory there.	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 02:46 AM
1	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? Maybe playing to stereotypes is a good idea if it's part of a strategy to help unteach those stereotypes. That ad you described totally appealed to the exact part of my brain which makes me afraid to depend on anyone or ask for directions. If I were deathly afraid to unpack my 'manhood' knapsack and take inventory, this would be a great way to trick me into starting that process. If we want to help men who have already been saddled with this mental baggage, that works wonders. I think the other …	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 02:36 AM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Perhaps you find glasses sexy because they represent to you that she is intelligent or that she is coy and will be more of a chase. I would wager that it has less to do with the physical glasses and more what it means. Is there a "thinks glasses are associated with coyness or intelligence" gene? Was I born with that idea in my head too? C'mon, you are doing some really impressive mental gymnastics to avoid acknowledging the role which culture plays in shaping attractions. They're not all inborn.…	/r/MensRights	30/05/14 12:51 AM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Sexuality is an innate quality. Just as homosexuals do not choose or were not taught who to be attracted to, I was not taught what was attractive either Would you say that people, statistically speaking, are attracted to the same physical qualities that they were, say, 100 years ago? If no, do you think the shift is related to some species-wide change in the human genome which happened in the space of a mere few generations? 100 years is a long time culturally speaking, but it's virtually no tim…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 10:36 PM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Not quite explicitly, but it's been a quietly-assumed theme in a lot of cultural messages. women should accept you just the way you are because you're special For instance, corporations have not gone to such outlandish extremes to sell me things like cosmetics, hair/skin treatments, and sexy clothes. I am under some societal pressure to do other stuff to be attractive to women, but a lot of that stuff associated with male sexiness tends to be things like 'accumulate money', 'be physically strong…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 07:47 PM
2	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? In those cases, yeah, I think that would be a reasonable hypothesis to explore. I don't think the reasons why some women do this are the same as the reasons why some men do this; for instance, I think the overall "safety imbalance" which is felt by society probably makes some women feel like, since they are less likely to be perceived as threatening, they can 'get away' with more aggressive touching of men and have it dismissed as harmless. I think something different is typically going on in me…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 06:36 PM
1	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I'm at work now but that looks like an interesting and productive article and I'm bookmarking it for later. Thanks!	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 05:27 PM
2	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I think that link is basically correct - feminism has focused less on how the gender-typing may turn the boy into a miserable man, and more on how it can turn him into - for instance - a rapist. (I should stress, though, that this is still not just a women's issue even if we're focused on boy-as-rapist, because people of all genders are raped.) I can see why this focus is harder for men to get on board with; I don't think I agree that makes it unreasonable; if I have to either cure the rapist's …	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 04:32 PM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? I'm a man too, so why can you speak on all of our behalf about what "men" feel and I can't? My experience of manhood is just as valid as yours.	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 04:10 PM
1	Dear god, did this actually happen? I may weep with joy. Why not both? It can screw everyone, and screw women extra-hard, and we can all still be angry about it	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 06:15 AM
2	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? In your last paragraph, I roughly think you're saying that feminism has not done a great job of telling the complete story, because it has focused on how gender-typing works from the perspective of women - both in how women are trained to act and in how men are trained to treat women. If that's what you're going for, then I think that's more or less accurate. I don't feel like feminism has claimed or purported to be such a be-all, though. To my understanding, there have long been calls, from fem…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 06:02 AM
0	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? We're all taught a lot of mutually contradictory things, and by necessity some of the teachings must win out over others, so I'm not saying that the overall result is in any way homogenous. But I think in order to not have taken in any of mainstream culture's influences, you'd have to have lived a very improbably isolated life. I readily acknowledge that plenty of men in the world have had adequate good stuff taught to them to overcome some of the crappy messages which exist in their cultures, d…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 03:15 AM
1	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? I guess getting friendzoned is when you have a romantic or sexual interested in a girl and she says she want's to be friends only. That's the basic concept but it extends a little further than that; it also connotes that the girl doing the 'friendzoning' is doing something morally blameworthy; that being just friends with someone who wants more than friendship, counts as wronging them. It also is a concept used in a lot of PUA material, in the case of advocating ways to 'stay out of the friendzo…	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 03:02 AM
0	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Where do you believe the people who do this learned it from? Me, I think that the "happy romantic ending with the girl he wanted" trope which was in the plot of approximately 100% of the lousy movies I watched between the ages of 6 and 16 primed me to think that all I had to do was succeed, in whatever generally-defined way my life framework required of me, and that would basically "earn" me some love. I was pretty socially stunted and bad at flirting, and learning that Hollywood fiction really …	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 02:49 AM
3	Skirts Should Be a Normal Choice…for Both Women and Men "Schoolboys in France stirred up gender norms when they eschewed pants last week. But men in skirts shouldn’t be a provocative sight…it should be a choice as normal as women in pants." It's almost as if gender politics can legitimately focus not just on legal rights but on cultural issues too	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 02:24 AM
4	Open question, what the hell does "men are taught they are entitled to sex and women's bodies" even mean???? Catcalls, ass slaps, unwelcome moshpit grinding. Those dudes who respond with legit anger to a social snub. The entire concept of being 'friendzoned'. All of these are little ways in which some men act as if they think women owe them something, rather than merely hoping it might be given freely as is the norm. Not all men do it, but I do think all men in our culture are taught to do it. Some of us manage to resist/unlearn this training better than others.	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 02:08 AM
4	#YesAllWomen I think this is the right response. OP's timing and motives, not to mention the laundry-list of only-vaguely-related complaints, make it seem distinctly like this is an attempt to antagonize someone else's equality struggle, not build one of his own. There are other more productive ways to do this than trying to piggyback onto women's campaign, in the recent wake of a mass murder no less.	/r/MensRights	29/05/14 01:56 AM
3	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? Women ought to handle rejection gracefully too; we all, both genders, would do well to try and deconstruct our own reasons for liking what we like. I don't see what the problem is.	/r/MensRights	28/05/14 06:48 AM
2	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I edited to add second paragraph right after you submitted. Sorry 'bout that.	/r/MensRights	28/05/14 06:32 AM
3	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I don't think this can be solved by scrutinizing women's sexual preferences. The incel culture suffers from just as many misconceptions and deficits of introspection concerning their own reasons for wanting the women they want, that I don't think the blame game is a good one for them to bother with. Whether women's sexual preferences are well-founded or fair or not, men dealing with rejection in a well-adjusted way is not a 'nice to have'. It is a must. At the end of the day, people are entitled…	/r/MensRights	28/05/14 06:22 AM
8	Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? I really like this post, and except for a couple of serious misunderstandings which I'm gonna try to address nicely, I want to commend the good intentions and good ideas I see here. Full disclosure: I'm a dude and I identify myself in daily life as a feminist. If you have to downvote me at this point I promise I'll understand. First is the attribution that feminists assume maleness is inherently bad. I know it's going to be a hard sell trying to convince mensrights that feminists don't think thi…	/r/MensRights	28/05/14 02:48 AM
2	Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread. Hi, feminist dude here who rarely ever pokes his head into this community. Thank you for this acknowledgement.	/r/MensRights	27/05/14 07:14 AM
13	Does everyone agree that sometimes men and women alike face difficulties that are based on their gender? I don't think I know a single feminist who considers slavery, racism, or transphobia even remotely remedied.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 07:24 AM
6	Does everyone agree that sometimes men and women alike face difficulties that are based on their gender? Here, I think that possibly what Cox is afraid of is that, if a course concerned only with men's victimhood in gender dynamics takes off, it will produce more stuff like aVoiceForMen.com, which is full of extreme and antifeminist rhetoric; to keep a reasonable sense of sociopolitical perspective I think it makes more sense to present these issues as part of an all-encompassing gender studies program - which, you'll find, many certifiably "feminist" women's studies faculties are already doing and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 06:52 AM
3	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP So are you smarter than the people with Ph.D's who have produced these statistics or do you just believe that there is no such thing as probability?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 06:28 AM
8	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP As opposed to asking if i want a response and then taking the high road by refusing to engage instead of just going ahead and giving your response like people actually interested in discussions do	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 06:25 AM
3	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP mentally or whatever This indicates a level of clinical understanding lower than one which could justify your apparent confidence in your rightness. People are fat for many reasons and it isn't hard to find and isolate demographic and socioeconomic predictors of BMI. Unless you subscribe to the ideology that economic power literally is moral justice, your essentialism has got some 'splainin to do about things like food deserts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 06:23 AM
3	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP but their efforts would be better directed Better for whom? Would this advance their life goals, or would it merely get them closer to what you assume their goals are? I am interested to hear about what relationship dynamics other than 'captain/first officer' you personally have tried, and just 'know' aren't good for you. You can see how these two questions are at heart the same question, yes?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 05:55 AM
7	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP Well the PS is just a pithier restatement of everything that came before, so I'm gonna Poe's Law myself here and actually conjecture straightfaced that, if your understanding of my opinion was changed by that PS, you actually, legitimately didn't get the thrust of what came before. As baldly as possible, what I am saying is: Asserting that disagreeing with X is equivalent to misunderstanding X, is logically identical with simply asserting X. If you have something to say about that I'm all ears.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 05:44 AM
3	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP I have a problem with those Tea Partiers who would coexist peacefully with the people who brought "Obama=monkey" signs to the rallies for the sake of having greater attendance numbers, rather than band together as a community to make that shit unwelcome. Even if they agree on the basics in that they don't like the president. Likewise, I'm gonna judge everyone in TRP who lets the ubiquitous objectifying language pass unchallenged, regardless of whether they personally agree with it or are just re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 05:14 AM
2	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP See, I feel like out here in the civilized world, we aren't merely 'not dogmatic' about thinking women are sluts etc, we try to actively make it unwelcome. Like, we have a social norm which stigmatizes people for talking and acting like they think women are sex objects, rather than quietly disagreeing and moving on for the sake of harmony. While I'm sure some individual TRPers won't adhere to this ideology completely if interviewed at length, I sure don't see any of them chastising each other fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 03:02 AM
16	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP Is it possible that people who disagree with that comment are the ones who don't understand TRP, via lack of honest introspection and an inadequate understanding of gender theory? Is it possible in general that the participants in a community are not actually the ones who understand the community in the deepest way? Is it possible that someone posting "I've noticed that people who disagree with X don't truly understand X" is actually not saying anything deeper than "I agree with X" in a slightly…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 02:53 AM
9	If you don't agree with TRP you don't understand TRP Then why would you call the above hyperbole if you have seen and rejected it in TRP yourself	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/14 02:48 AM
2	Girl gives guys oral at concert. After the pictures appear online claims rape, people consider her a victim. Public blowjobs are also pretty uncommon, Bayes would like a word.	/r/MensRights	24/08/13 12:55 AM
4	Girl gives guys oral at concert. After the pictures appear online claims rape, people consider her a victim. (unlikely not for any specific reason, but because this squares better with my preconceptions)	/r/MensRights	23/08/13 11:55 PM
4	How Women Look At Men OP should have just been a big sign saying "People are superficial :("	/r/MensRights	16/05/13 04:37 AM
3	I'm having a bit of a debate with a friend of mine. Care to help me out with some sources? OP said part of his problem was that his feminist friend thinks the MRM is reactionary against feminism, so I'm not sure that responding with 'opposition to feminist legislation' or accusations that feminism = lies about DV is what he's goin' for	/r/MensRights	30/04/13 09:57 AM
14	Dating a traditional girl with an eye towards marriage. I got $5 which says that, like most traditional, family-oriented 23-year-old girls of conservative, religious upbringing, she has not really been exposed to the idea that consensual nonmonogamy is even a thing, nor that there's even a "the exclusive talk" for them to have. $5 more says that OP, when he finally can't put off having the "exclusive talk" any longer, will painstakingly structure this talk so as to avoid any unsolicited disclosures about his nonmonogamous activities to date, which he…	/r/TheRedPill	17/04/13 04:12 PM
14	Dating a traditional girl with an eye towards marriage. "culturally conservative" "virgin" Yeah, totes likely. She's a play-the-field kinda girl for sure.	/r/TheRedPill	17/04/13 06:04 AM
3	Whatever happened to that crowdfunded 'Tropes vs. Men in Videogames' project? [spoiler: OP did not deliver] I, all the while identifying as a feminist, cynically make this claim pretty frequently too. But along with my snark and cynicism directed toward the MRM, there is a lot of disappointment and sadness because men's issues are important, and because there's a lot of good work that MRA's and feminists could be collaborating on, if it weren't for the a) mutual antipathy between these groups, and b) the large (but shrinking, i dare hope) contingent within the MRM which is concerned with reactionary t…	/r/MensRights	09/03/13 12:27 AM
2	Whatever happened to that crowdfunded 'Tropes vs. Men in Videogames' project? [spoiler: OP did not deliver] for what it's worth, I personally think the above is a real problem which urgently needs to be discussed. Harmful stereotypes of masculinity and of femininity work together in concert and we're gonna have to work on dismantling both in order to get anywhere.	/r/MensRights	08/03/13 10:05 PM
0	Whatever happened to that crowdfunded 'Tropes vs. Men in Videogames' project? [spoiler: OP did not deliver] I'm an MRA Which is why I find it so baffling that you apparently don't care that your donation to an MRA cause was stolen by a charlatan. I would expect a different response someone who actually thought male stereotypes in video games were a problem (which I actually think they are. fancy that.) trying to undermine the men's rights movement Seems to me that the dude you gave money to is doing a fine job of that already.	/r/MensRights	08/03/13 09:54 PM
3	Whatever happened to that crowdfunded 'Tropes vs. Men in Videogames' project? [spoiler: OP did not deliver] Aren't you worried that this makes MR advocacy look like a disingenuous sham, run by people who are only faking an interest in actual men's issues as a pretense to antagonize women? That's what I would worry about in your shoes. oh wait I guess your comment answers this question perfectly come to think of it	/r/MensRights	08/03/13 09:42 PM
-5	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! Have I claimed that there aren't? I'm not the one who thinks people need 'deniability' for other people's words. There are undoubtedly some self-described feminist (whether I happen think they are using the label properly is irrelevant) rapists out there and I don't feel particularly like their actions mean I should abandon the label myself.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 09:42 PM
-6	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! Did you read Dowd's book, or did the title tell you everything you needed to know about it? I hope you're just as unforgiving of hyperbole from your own favourite authors, whoever those are. (edit since, thanks to downvotes, I can't actually reply to your other question directly) You need evidence for the fact that there exists at least one MRA rapist in the world? Seriously? The Earth contains >6 billion people. QED.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 09:15 PM
-7	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! Do MRAs also need 'deniability' whenever one self-described MRA turns out to be a rapist, or would you agree that it's nonsense to expect you to answer for other people's behaviour?	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 08:47 PM
-5	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! Every political movement has this problem. Nozick-style libertarians have their Tea Party troglodytes to make 'em look bad, and proper socialists have their Che-Guevara-Teeshirt hippies, and actual advocates of sex and gender equality have their MRAs. I'm sorry that everyone hasn't agreed on a single unified agenda for the purposes of making their movement easier for you to understand and categorize, but they have different priorities and you're gonna have to live with it somehow.	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 08:30 PM
-10	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! Prepare for a million downvotes. HOW DARE YOU INTERRUPT THE CIRCLEJERK TO INSINUATE THAT THIS IDIOT LADY IS NOT ACTUALLY A FEMINIST EVEN THOUGH SHE ISN'T IN ANY WAY	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 08:09 PM
1	"5 Reasons to beware of feminist men", written by a feminist! A feminist wrote the phrase "most women hate men who [identify as feminist]"? That's hilarious! Pull the other one!	/r/MensRights	06/09/12 07:58 PM
1	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. Along the same lines, culture has dictated that in the majority of heterosexual relationships, the man has the responsibility to be the initiator. I, a feminist, think this is a fantastic complaint and I hope we can work together to dismantle this societal expectation and put equal empowerment (and onus) on women to approach partners. of which I've received none. You very likely think about your personal mobility in a fundamentally different way from how you would if you were a woman, raised fro…	/r/MensRights	05/08/12 01:19 AM
1	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. That was a deliberate flipflopping of a 'woman' stereotype, meant to point out just how alike he sounds to this personally wounded, irrationally rabid stereotypical "feminist" I keep hearing about but have never met.	/r/MensRights	05/08/12 01:05 AM
-1	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. The ruling is overturned, yes, by another judge; but the judge who made the first still has his job and is still allowed to hear sexual assault cases. I think it's messed up that someone who thinks like that was allowed to become a judge in the first place, and I think it's very messed up that, after issuing an apology and taking some gender equity classes, he can just go back to his normal duties. This is like finding out, almost a year into his residency, that a doctor doesn't believe in the g…	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 05:33 AM
-1	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. Sometimes by judges. Somehow, a guy who would consider "sex was in the air" relevant to a rape case, managed to get his job without tripping anyone's alarm bells. Society isn't doing so great at this yet.	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 04:57 AM
2	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. Acknowledging that this privilege is indeed a privilege would be a good start. r/mr in general has a lot of trouble with doing this but you seem to be doing better than most! I agree that parents have the biggest role to play here, but it takes a village. edit: Since I'm not sure I made this clear, the axiom I'm following above is that it's not just the perpetrators of injustice whose job it is to stop it; it is also the innocent beneficiaries of that injustice who bear responsibility to fight i…	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 02:02 AM
-1	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. No, it isn't at all. I'm saying that women still have fewer in the present. I'm glad that you don't see sexy clothing on women as an invitation. That's a good, decent way to be. But you live in a society which tries to teach men not to follow that policy, and succeeds on most of them, and does not teach women to do the same to men. That is a privilege which it is still your responsibility to help dismantle.	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 01:03 AM
-7	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. oh don't be so emotional Perhaps part of the problem in your profession is that male customers of RMTs see the massage experience as something inherently sexualized - which i'm sure doesn't create any unique workplace difficulties for your female coworkers at all. If feminism were successful in dismantling the barely-concealed expectations of male massage customers I bet you would get more business. Let's say you have some gay male customers whose wanted-ads insist on having a male RMT only - ar…	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 12:53 AM
-4	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. a) your presumption was of my "privilege" - i was a 'victim' of both supposed oppressions you mentioned, (although only the second one actually deserves addressing, as no one has ever had the right not to be sexually rejected) so i'm not sure what privilege you were talking about. b) I think you meant boys, not men. Violence against nerds is not really an issue for adults - and i'm unclear on why you mention it as a specifically male phenomenon: do you imagine that childhood bullying is not a pr…	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 12:42 AM
-3	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. No, I actually don't see how that's relevant to my question in any way. I was asking if, when getting dressed, you have to hedge your bets against being seen by strangers as "inviting" sexual attention even if you don't make eye contact or smile at them. I'm awfully sorry that you have to pay bills in order to receive services from the companies billing you. That is misandry at its worst. Perhaps you would have an easier time with those if you earned 30% less at your job.	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 12:32 AM
-12	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. they were frequently excluded from the gene pool I'm afraid that being denied sexual attention that you do want is not quite in the same ballpark as being given sexual attention that you don't want, oppression-wise. I personally got my ass routinely kicked as a kid because I was an awkward (and awkwardly-dressed) nerd. And I didn't get laid at all. thanks for the presumption though	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 12:18 AM
-5	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. I'm flat broke That is a matter of perspective. Do you have the aforementioned ability to choose clothes with relative impunity?	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 12:08 AM
-10	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. I'd say the debts of the father are to be repaid by his heirs.	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 11:46 PM
-20	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. I'm saying all men bear a responsibility to end the systemic and social phenomena which began in the past and persist through the present day. If you inherited the ability to, say, choose your outfit in the morning without having to worry about what "message" it will send to strangers about your sexual availability, you owe it to others who lack that ability, to not treat them as if their outfit does send such a message. And so on in that vein.	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 10:50 PM
-15	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. it's about as deliberate a misinterpretation as its parent comment was. interpret that as you will.	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 08:54 PM
-22	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. repayment of debt = revenge got it	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 08:34 PM
1	Uh huh... sure. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jan/25/divorce-women-research	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 08:10 PM
-32	Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism. Because you inherited privileges from your forefathers who wronged plenty? I steal a million bucks from you. It becomes public knowledge that I did this. We both die. What does your next of kin say to my next of kin?	/r/MensRights	03/08/12 07:57 PM
-3	Feminists Claim LEGOs Are Sexist C'mon, ramzpaul is VERY terrible.	/r/MensRights	24/04/12 02:43 AM
6	Woman won't face charges after admitting she lied about father raping her. He was sentenced to 15 years and served 9. Get your barf bags out. It's not unheard of for people to lie and take responsibility for the crimes of others, especially others in positions of power (like moms) who put them up to it. It's also not that outlandish for damaged psyches to rewrite the past with an exaggerated account of their own agency. Pretending it was her own idea all along could be her mind's way of retconning herself back into power over her own childhood.	/r/MensRights	03/04/12 04:54 PM
4	Woman won't face charges after admitting she lied about father raping her. He was sentenced to 15 years and served 9. Get your barf bags out. It's weird that this subreddit is largely concerned with pointing out that women sometimes lie, and yet this comment (and the other replies like it) seem to take the woman's confession as unquestionable gospel. If you're gonna belabour the importance of taking all rape accusations with a grain of salt, the least you could do is show this confession the same incredulity.	/r/MensRights	03/04/12 04:51 PM