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| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Observational data = Anecdotal evidence. Give me some hard facts and then we can talk. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?What age do you see fit for other people to have sex, obtain credit, or obtain student loans? Is age 25 still "early 20s"? How about 20 years old, just to be safe? You can do all those things at that age, I'm concerned of 30 year olds who will come and take advantage of those kids. Like I said earlier, I'm not focusing on what the 18 year olds are doing, I'm focusing on what the 30 year olds may be doing to them. Simple as that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?"I reject your reality and substitute my own" is essentially what you're going for then. Cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I question those people deeply and warily. But at least Robert Pattinson was 24 when he was playing Edward. (had to make a quick google stop because I was afraid that the group was skeevy-er than imagined.) Plus they have terrible taste in books. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 07:03 AM |
| 3 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?You're attacking the people behind them. Just because it's text based doesn't mean there isn't a human being reading them In this case, with 30 year olds targeting 18 year olds, it's kind of hard to explain my opinion without being condemning of those people. The action is tied very closely with personal motivation, so it's hard to separate the two. However I don't think I've been rude or blatantly hostile towards anyone in particular, so I think I'm in the clear. . And you're condemning them fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?18 year olds (or insert age of consent here) are generally the youngest people manipulative adults can get their hands on without the fear of legal action against them. At age 18 (and even into their early 20's) they're still learning how to deal with responsibility, risk assessment, and judgement calls, AND learning about their own sexuality. Now, if we add in an unscrupulous 30 year old, things get unpleasant. This adult may push boundaries that they shouldn't (like pressuring the teens into s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?How about for the reason that she's got a crazy hot body? Plenty of other people within their age bracket will have a crazy hot body. Doesn't give them the excuse to target high schoolers. If there was no such thing as the legal age of consent would you make excuses for 25 year olds targeting 14 year olds because they had a 'crazy hot body'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?So you don't have a concrete objection, you just don't like the situation. I can't think of an actual valid and non-manipulative reason that a 30 year old would target 18 year olds specifically. I think "not wanting young impressionable people to be abused" is a concrete enough objection. What about 30 year olds who aren't mature enough to handle their own business? It depends, are these 30 year olds being taken advantage of? If they are they need to find some sort of supportive friend/family me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/14 01:22 AM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?OK, so why presume that 18 year olds aren't competent to handle their affairs? Are you saying that the ages of sexual and contractual consent are generally too low? Obviously there are 18 year olds who are mature enough to handle their own business. But my worry are the ones who are not mature enough to handle themselves. They are the ones I'm worried about when 30 year olds are targeting high school students. I think 18 is a decent age to put that consent marker at, so long as the attention the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 11:06 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Your opinion that you don't like 18 year olds wearing bikinis or fucking doesn't mean anything in and of itself. I'm fine with these things so long as the 18 year old is not being taken advantage of. Again, stop trying to tell me what my argument is. I know you don't like these things. I'm after a concrete reason why. Because it's immoral? And potentially damaging towards what are essentially children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:56 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?How is it predatory? Maturity issues is meaningless smear talk, so I'm not concerned with that. If you cannot fathom how a 30 year old targeting high school students is predatory we are done here. How do you determine uninformed consent for a bikini barrista? Are they aware of the potential repercussions that a job like that might entail? Are they aware that they are going to be wearing bikini's to promote a project? Are they aware of the potential dangers of taking that kind of job? Those would… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I say worrisome as a way of not reiterating the point that grown adults dating 18 year olds exclusively are acting like predators and have underlying maturity issues. Wouldn't it get repetitive to say that every time, especially when people are trying to decide my arguments for me? There's a fair amount of internet porn that specifically features teenagers. 18 year olds routinely are employed as bikini barristas. I suppose you are "worried" for those women too? If there's dubious consent, or uni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I answered your question directly. I don't share in your bigoted horror of age gaps in sexual relationships so you're desperately trying to find some point to make. You purposefully misinterpreted my question then. I've been civil in approaching my argument. (aside from the snark towards your unsportsman-like debate tactics) I can't say the same about you. Just admit that all you have is an overwhelming feeling of revulsion and this conversation can be over. I don't have a disgust (overwhelming … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Or they just like young pussy. Assuming all 18 year old women are helpless creatures at the whims of their manipulative 30 year old boyfriends is a bit sexist and hyperbolic. You're the one throwing hyperbole and putting words in my mouth. If you look at my original post I said I would not stop an 18 year old from dating a 30 year old if they wished to... but I would warn them from any manipulation or abuse they wouldn't necessarily know how to cope with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 09:41 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?You attempt to disguise your lack of argument by proclaiming hurt feelings on my part. What argument are we talking about here? I asked a question, you round-about answered it after trying to side track for a bit. You made it out to be that I wasn't looking for serious debate when you were trying to pull the conversation off course for trifling word-choice non issues . Who's the one really playing games? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 09:38 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?She wouldn't be able to date the model because he is a model and probably drowning in ladybits anyways. She wouldn't be able to date george clooney because it's friggin george clooney! Here's a result for the same website when I looked up '30 year old man'... Could she get with this guy if we were only to factor in appearances? Most likely. You can't prop up average female vs famous male. That's disingenuous. [edit: speeling is harde] | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:19 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Oh... yeah that's pretty self-explanatory then, thanks for explaining it anyways though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?What's the half plus seven rule? I don't think I've actually ever heard of it. :O | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 07:00 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?This assumes that everyone is attracted to the exact same traits. (Please note the women does not have her hair or makeup done, while the model is airbrushed and george clooney... is george clooney. I mean damn son. lol) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?(Interesting that the metaphor that came to my mind was maternal and not preditor/prey...) Yuck, yeah. I winced when I realized that too. Why should I believe that age difference makes the probability of manipulation greater? (I mean, for totally wild age-differences yes, or for cases where age of consent isn't met). I suppose that depends on what you think wild age differences would be? I think 30-to-18 is pretty wild personally... But the again, I wouldn't have much issue with a 60 year old da… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Aaa!!! Hi SRD! I love you guys. :U [edit] .... Unless you brigade. Stop upvoting my crap! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 06:25 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Well if you're gonna be cynical about it.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 05:15 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?The predator/prey relationship is by definition a violation of the "prey's" agency - I mean, the prey doesn't want to get eaten, that's why it's prey. Sure, if we're going on the discovery channel version of things. But it's possible to be preyed upon in a relationship without being aware of it. It's a huge assumption that a 30 year old who has a preference for women on the south side of their 20's has bad intent. Again, I think this is true about both genders, not just for men. It could be harm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:58 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Telling a man, "I'd make a great wife because I have lots of practice sucking different guys dicks so I'm really good at it" is not what most men are looking for in a wife. Nor a girlfriend for that matter. Well you never know.... Maybe there's someone who can appreciate a pro blowjob.... a projob? I don't ascribe to the belief that having sex (or even having a lot of sex) makes someone inherently lesser of a being. So this argument is kind of hard for me to relate to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:55 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Let's make a claim with 0% evidence to prove it! My anecdotal evidence is just as valid as yours. So we're at a stalemate until some actual numbers get brought into the mix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:47 PM |
| -1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?YES. 100%. I support traditional marriage and advocate it for young women and men. So men shouldn't sleep around either? Well as long as your consistent with your ideology I suppose I can't fault you for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:45 PM |
| 4 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Oh, okay, I'll make sure from now on to never allow any form of lightheartedness to permeate my posts. Sorry my tone was so abrasive to your delicate sensibilities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:43 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?No, it's not predatory, not it's not manipulation. You're just jealous - period. ... #5 No personal attacks #6 Don't be a cunt to other users. Please stop. :P But slutwalkers? I mean come on. You realize the slutwalks are done in solidarity for women who were raped, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:41 PM |
| 0 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?If you can find a real scientific study stating that the majority of women are like that I'd be more inclined to believe you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:35 PM |
| 7 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I think I did flip that sign around, which is embarrassing. No worries, like I said, I totally understand. you also have enough agency to choose to sleep with an older man. (Putting aside selective service - which is important, but outside the scope). This is perfectly true. 18 year olds definitely are the ones who make the decision if they want to sleep with the 30 year old. But I'm not looking at it from the 18 year old's perspective. I'm looking at it from the perspective of the 30 year old. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:34 PM |
| 4 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Interesting that you include irrelevant descriptors. Oh no, someone uses flowery language to comedic affect! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?That's utter stupidity. Just because you meet a nice guy does not mean the relationship is going to work out. Does that mean that the woman should hold out on sex in every relationship until she knows for 100% certainty they're going to stay together? "That's sexual manipulation!" They would cry! It's a lose-lose situation. You've set up an ideal that means that women can't be appealing regardless of their actions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:18 PM |
| 5 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Who wants to be just another cock on the carousel? She's likely just using you for your beta provider qualities. It's manipulative. And there we go. Fragile male ego at work. Because a woman has a sexual history it automatically means she's being manipulative. Women can't have a life outside of how they relate to men. Biotruths. When I was in high school, it wasn't my male friends "pressuring" me to lose my virginity nor shaming me for it. It was women - 100% of the time. And they didn't shame y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:12 PM |
| 6 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?It's ok for women to prefer older men, it's not ok for men to prefer younger women. Woman = good. Man = bad. Lordy, I will say this again because you don't seem to be picking up on it: When you target someone specifically because they fall into an age bracket that is both much younger than you are, and falls close to the legal age of consent, you are acting predatory. If you are 30 and happen to date an 18 year old it will draw a few stares, but doesn't necessarily mean you're a bad person. If y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:09 PM |
| 1 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Religious deity (or lack there of) of choice bless Canada. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 04:00 PM |
| 5 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I don't think anyone reviles women 30+. Ehhhh..... The idea that women should sleep around until they are 30 and find a "nice guy" then - I'm not sure how many women realize how offensive that comes across to "nice guys." How does that affect the "nice guy" if a woman has previous sexual partners? Is it all about the fragility of his ego? Would he be too afraid to be compared to past lovers? Women face the exact same fears too... so why is it okay for men to sleep around, or more to the point, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:59 PM |
| 3 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?I have no idea what you're trying to argue here. What hypocrisy are we talking about exactly? (not trying to be sarcastic... I genuinely am confused about your position.) There is no argument that blown-off limbs or death < a fling with a sleazy guy who wants sex .... Are you saying I think that flings with people much younger than yourself is worse than someone losing a limb in a war? Because clearly it's not? (or did you accidentally flip the > sign around? Perfectly understandable if so. I us… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:54 PM |
| 5 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?If the person's type is young, fertile, skinny.. that's predatory? So basically, the thing that all men want but few can get is predatory. If that woman is half your age? And you specifically target only people from that age group? Yes. There are plenty of women who are 18+ that are still gorgeous as hell. Lemme tell you a secret- you and your sisters' shame campaign makes sure that men aren't very honest in public about what they like. Oh no, you caught me! I'm a feminazi in disguise! My life's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:45 PM |
| -2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Men also are forced to join selective service at that age. I'm Canadian, my little bro is now 19 and no one has forced him into selective service yet. :P Maybe it's just serendipitous that we're not american? Can't say I know about conscription in the US. True, there is no draft nowadays but if this is the case, why not remove selective service or why not require women to sign up as well? No idea. Seems very archaic to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:22 PM |
| 7 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Actually, knowing my sister, "predator" is probably somewhat accurate, so, eh... Haha, you tell me. I'm not saying women are exempt from everything I said previously. It's just as applicable. But TRP seems to revile women 30+, and I was wondering how that would affect their feelings on the subject matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:17 PM |
| 7 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Ultimately, your problem is that you don't like the idea that men at 30 might actually be attractive to an 18 year old girl. I have no problem when a 30 year old is attractive. That'd be me fighting against pretty much every girl who has a crush on a male movie star. I have issues when men use their age to their advantage to manipulate girls much younger than them. It's predatory. But nobody shames women for being attractive at 18... and that's when they're most attractive, it's only downhill fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:15 PM |
| 7 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Seems interesting that the 'little' bit is the part you decided to comment on. Rephrase: Would you not feel weirded out if it was a 30 year old woman tagging all the 18 year old boys? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:09 PM |
| 9 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?When men sign up, they're far more likely to die... approximately 97% of casualties are male. So, no, when women sign up, they're just as sheltered from the result of their actions as elsewhere. There are more men than women in the army. Is it that strange that there are more male deaths than female deaths? Say what you will about "women don't join the army because x reasons" but I see no evidence of them being sheltered for their gender alone in this report. C) They find them attractive There's… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 03:07 PM |
| 2 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Or C) - that they want to fuck a chick with a bangin' tight little body. Note I kept my language completely gender neutral. Would you not feel weirded out if it was a 30 year old woman tagging all the little 18 year old boys? (especially with "The Wall" you guys all seem to fear in women. Hehe) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 02:59 PM |
| 17 | Are women capable of deciding for themselves who to mate with?Yet, simultaneously, I always see blue pillers mentioning that the women who might date red pillers have to be weak, easily manipulated, abused, or pressured into dating them. I wouldn't necessarily say all of that applies, but when one of the core strategies of TRP game is essentially manipulation, then yeah... that ones kinda applicable. (which removes the ambiguity considerably, considering 18 is a much more universally legal age and is a perfect parallel to men who are allowed to make the de… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/14 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Help me understandWomen and men would be approaching each other equally? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/14 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?Out of curiosity, are you being banned or downvoted right now? I am not downvoting you if you are. It seems like we may have a place to discuss TRP vs TBP, in this very sub... As far as I know, I'm not banned anywhere, but I do seem to get downvotes... which is strange considering the no downvote rule. :P Generally speaking, however, it is my understanding that men are inherently less valuable than women. Yeah. Can you tell me what women inherently value if it isn't their sex? That seems to be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 10:30 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandKeep reading, they pull the exact same shit. I'm sorry for being alarmed from his unnecessary crudeness :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 10:21 PM |
| 3 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?Wanna count how many "train your boyfriend/husband" articles are published in women's magazines? And those are reprehensible too but women talk like that all the fucking time. Again, I don't condone that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 10:02 PM |
| -1 | Help me understandMy point was purposefully over simplified. It's going to take a lot of time for social dynamics to shift. A LOT. It's going to take even MORE time though if people are going to put their support in the current system. And by advocating game and pick up culture you're just throwing a blanket on the actual problem. And then people begin to complain about the system they inadvertently added more issues to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 09:32 PM |
| 7 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?What? Advising a course of action is not a definition. It is advice. Take it or leave it. It's the only advice ever dispensed! You guys are in an echo chamber! Generalization. I have influence among my friends and family. That is the extent of my influence. I have no iron in the media fire. I don't blog. I don't make videos. I am not a journalist, nor an editor. Men as a population. They've got metric shittons of representation in the media. If you fail to see that from just looking at the movie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 09:21 PM |
| -1 | Help me understandEncourage female friends and family members to approach men they're attracted to. Make social spaces welcoming to women who do decide to initiate relationships. "Why should we have to do that? women should be taking responsibility in this!" Mutual benefits man, do you speak it?! The more welcoming the environment, the more likely women are to initiate relationships. The quicker women start approaching men, the quicker it'll be adopted by other women. The quicker other women adopt it, the more li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 09:07 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandI disagree. Game does not level the field. It adds another level of bullshit to the complex dance that is modern social interaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 08:35 PM |
| 0 | Help me understand.... But why focus on working with the system we already have in place? It's like adding new hardware to a crappy old outdated model. If you want the way men & women interact to change, and be on a level playing field, you first have to do away with the old method of social interaction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 08:30 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandWhat's wrong with using Game as way to deal with the reality? See, that's the mentality right there. That supports maintaining the status quo. The current situation is reality, just accept it and use this work around rather than pushing for an actual solution. I don't give a good GODDAMN about how unfair it is. That's not my argument. It's uneven! That's the fact. Ladies weild the power of rejection and therefore they have the advantage as far as avoiding hurt pride goes. But sitting around comp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 08:18 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandIf you just meant "men can make it easier" then I would agree. That's what I'm trying to get at. Why not work towards it if it's mutually beneficial? That's all I'm saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 08:02 PM |
| 4 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?Where does TRP define masculinity? They define it by the course of action they advise men to take. Be the dominant one, women love to be submissive! Don't show weakness! Women detest weakness and leave you the minute you start expressing your emotions! Train your women to make her fit your likes and dislikes! Women love when you're overbearing because it makes them feel wanted! Be promiscuous! It's okay when guys do it because evo psych supports it! Please don't withhold. I would like to know wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 08:00 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandOh no, I don't think that all those obstacles have to be removed, just looking at it from a expedited way. The less obstacles, the more likely women will approach men. The more likely it is for women to approach men, the quicker it'll be to catch on to other women. Simple as that. Boom, every body's happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:36 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandUh, no? Way to twist my words. I don't see how you got that from my response? You're free to reject the attentions of anyone you don't have interest in... that a given. For the sake of brevity, I'm just going to link you to my other post about a few kinds of steps you can take to make a welcoming environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandOkay, off the top of my head I can think of a few things. When a woman does approach someone, don't make snap judgement about her intentions. Ladies get an inordinate amount of flack for being promiscuous. When a woman approaches someone it doesn't give the recipient the excuse to come on too strong because 'she invited it'. Encourage your female friends (or do you believe you can't be friends with a woman?... Er, whole 'nother can of worms) and family members to go talk to men if they're expres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:30 PM |
| -1 | Help me understandSure, that's prolific, but the point is... IF YOU WANT WOMEN TO APPROACH YOU, BE WELCOMING. BY BEING WELCOMING YOU INCREASE THE CHANCES OF IT HAPPENING AGAIN AND IT DIRECTLY BENEFITS YOU. Or, you could just refuse to do so and be left with nothing to do but whine that men have to do all the work in initiating relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:22 PM |
| -1 | Help me understandRead /u/Misspearl's post. She mentions some things that she's encountered from men that are less-than pleasant when she approaches them. Women don't approach because they don't have to. It's as simple as that. MissPearl breaks that theory. :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Do women have a right to birth control?I try not to fall into that temptation. I am however, a total one-upper and I'm so upset with myself. Bllaaah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:37 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandFRICK. I'm so mad, my reply didn't go through... er... condensing time. PUA works with the status quo, it hinges on men being the one who approaches, and the woman being the recipient of his actions. It doesn't challenge how people interact with each other. An alternative solution would be for women to take initiative in approaching relationships. That's totally on us. But men can help by making environments where such a thing is possible. /u/MissPearl made a very interesting post about the trou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Help me understandThanks so much for your insight! I'm not hugely into the dating scene myself so it's nice to hear a first hand account! Part of this is based on the idea that if I can be frank and open, I am therefore a "slut" and I have lost the ability to say no to any man ever in the perception of some men. Then, because I still know what I want cue the awkwardness. It's pretty sucky that your personal preferences don't come without a backlash of negativity. :( I feel for ya. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:56 PM |
| 7 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?The last three generations of men have grown up not knowing how to embrace masculinity. But TRP thinks they can define masculinity, and the way they do it excludes a lot of people. Anyone who doesn't conform to the way TRP defines masculinity are dismissed as betas or manginas or what have you. It is undeniable that masculinity has not been lauded by society for at least the 40-70 years. Yet, I see masculinity affirmed in every form of pop culture you can think of. Go look at the movies that are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:49 PM |
| 1 | Do women have a right to birth control?Yeah, well businesses like these know their markets. They're not in it to challenge the current gender dynamics. They're in it for the green. You know how you can make male-centric charities more popular? By supporting them. If you want to see more of them, throw your cash at them. When people realize males are a viable marketing audience from all the money you throw at them, they'll start pandering to your wants and needs. <sup>Also, I would never spend 50 bucks on a blanket. Holy shit. That's … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:48 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandExactly as I'm advocating. Women need to get up and be active. Men need to... essentially not get in their way by trying to maintain the current status quo. And TRP advocates the current status quo, they'd rather make a temporary work around (all the PUA crap) than work towards an actual fix. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:44 PM |
| -1 | Do women have a right to birth control?You know what women (stereo-typically) like to do? Buy Shit. Go look at all those goddamned useless products and tell me it's not about the profit. It's the exact same thing as breast cancer. They claim to be about awareness, when really they're after hocking all their branded crap at people in order to build a brand identity. You know why it's more prevalent then similar charities geared towards men? Target market analysis. Chances are men won't drop 53 bucks for a Microsherpa(???) blanket . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 04:59 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandwomen can handle being called out for shitty behavior just like anyone else. Are you purposefully trying to derail the debate at hand by focusing on putting words into my mouth? Or have you that much of a persecution complex? Show me where I've condoned not calling out women for shitty behaviour? Unless you believe that this bit Iunno, support them in it, maybe it'll become more prevalent? From earlier is some how saying "support women for keeping the status quo" and not "Support women for appro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 04:50 PM |
| 16 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?Iunno if you'd call them principles exactly..... maybe ideals? Core concepts? TRP has a lot of ideals that try to reduce women down to infantile emotional wrecks. They bash on promiscuous women while trying to be promiscuous themselves, but see nothing wrong with this because somehow sex is bad for women. They're very rigid as far as masculine and feminine characteristics go, if you don't fit in that pigeonhole you're the [sarcastic] 'special snowflake'. Some TRPers claim a lot of these concepts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 12:58 PM |
| 16 | Why do you identify as Blue Pill?I'm blue pill because I can't think of a single reason I'd want to align myself with a group of people who dehumanizes me purely because of the fact that my junk is an innie rather than an outie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 12:05 PM |
| 0 | Help me understandPlease don't infantilize your speech; it reinforces the patriarchal notion that women are immature. Tone police harder please. Really, it's quite entertaining. *edit: And just in case you're not being purposefully obtuse, Supporting means bringing someone up, rather than tearing down. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 11:57 AM |
| 0 | Help me understandThat's the entire point, men can't reject the system. Yes, but women can. and if you... Iunno, support them in it, maybe it'll become more prevalent? Like if we could some how change the perception that men don't need to be the actors, and women don't need to sit around waiting to be acted upon then you know.... Wow, more people will do that? Basically your argument sounds like "I don't want to think of a solution, I'd rather sit here and whine about how unfair it is." Yeah, the reason why 13 ye… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 11:34 AM |
| -1 | Do women have a right to birth control?Wow, that was some good ol' fashioned informercial cheese right there. Love the naming sense. And they did it surprisingly tastefully. When you said you laughed your ass off I was fearing terrible butt jokes. But nope. :) Which is nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 09:25 AM |
| 0 | Help me understandI lied about the sleeping bit. Results may be garbled Do you really believe that most men feel comfortable taking the risk and approaching women? Some of them may be. I don't see how this is relevant. I'm not trying make this a game of who's got it worse. (with the assumption that strict gender norms are enforced) I conceded the fact that women have an advantage in this situation. But there are also some draw backs to go with the good. (They can't use telekinesis to will the object of their affe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Help me understandIt's about accepting that gender roles which are inconvenient for men are here to stay. Wishy washy defeatist talk! Nothing will change if you dig in your heels and stay put. Row row fight the power and all that. This all leads back to the passivity thing. Are you going to sit there passively and not approach that cutie at the bar? Are you going to sit there and let negative gender norms keep ya down? Hell no! Go kick those gender roles in their non-specific junk! (don't kick the cutie. DO NOT K… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 07:15 AM |
| 1 | Do women have a right to birth control?I haven't actually heard about that one. I'll have to look it up! I think pantene is owned by Proctor & Gamble? Don't quote me on that. (I would still support a charity even if the parent company sent out horrible mixed messages as they do. lol So long as the donations are going to the right place I'm happy. ) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:42 AM |
| 1 | Do women have a right to birth control?Tangent time: (Aka: Why taking advertising has made me super jaded towards the marketing industry) Dove, the creators of the real beauty campaign, the ones who put out those amazing feel-good ads about embracing your beauty are owned by Unilever. The same people who own axe. Which puts out lovely little ads like these. I'm so torn. aaaaa | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:33 AM |
| 4 | Help me understandPassivity isn't a viable male dating strategy. TRUFAX. Women, on the other hand, can pull off a relatively passive dating strategy, so by and large they tend to do so. I suppose we've got the longer end of the stick in that sense. No one likes getting rejected, so I can understand why some people prefer to use that social habit to their advantage. But again, perfect world scenario would be where women as a whole feel comfortable taking the risk and approaching men the same way men approach women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women be just friends?It's not even just guys... anyone who has unrequited feelings? Man. Yeah, I totally empathize. I think the greatest advice anyone has ever given me is "You don't need to apologize for how you feel." That being said, feelings don't automatically cancel out repercussions for negative actions. Being antagonizing to someone who turned you down is how some people cope with rejection. I'm not going to judge you for doing it, but I will you if you didn't at least attempt to apologize for your actions. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Help me understandI'd be the first to line up man. Absolutely revolutionary you are. haha 100% agree that women should be more confident and active in approaching relationships. I don't know why we don't, aside from fear of the unknown? Like... no one else is doing it, therefore it must be bad?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:55 AM |
| 6 | Help me understandWhat I don't understand is why do bluepillers think that former niceguys would be anything but assholes. Weren't they assholes the entire time? I believe in asshole education and rehabilitation! Every asshole deserves chance number two! Oh god. no I have to stop with these terrible puns. Someone take this keyboard away from me some women, not all, are attracted to assholes. I feel like this cliche comes up a lot. I'm sure there are women who are attracted specifically to assholish behaviour, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:39 AM |
| 2 | Do women have a right to birth control?I just didn't want any of those "[adjusts glasses] WELL, ACTUALLY..." types getting on my case for not being completely truthful about it. ahaha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Do women have a right to birth control?Hahaha, Droppin' the uncomfortable truth bombs tonight! Sorry about that. :( In all fairness, it's not as wretchedly terrible because they take a look at the family's finances and only charge them something within their means (I'm not sure how they justify what the end-cost to the family is.) So it's still pretty friggin rotten..... but just not as rotten as it could be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Do women have a right to birth control?I totally feel ya. I went through the same sort of flabbergasted disgust when I learned Locks For Love made the cancer patients pay for the wigs. My sister lopped off her hair to give to locks for love without researching first and I wanted to smack her. (wigs for kids is a better alternative.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 04:52 AM |
| 3 | Do women have a right to birth control?I could be 100% wrong about this, but isn't erectile dysfunction medication covered by health insurance? (I did a little bit of digging, but I got mixed results.) Just wonderin'. Anyways, I say yes. Not only because it helps prevent unwanted pregnancies, but birth control can also be used to help treat a number of health issues. (the most common being periods in all their terrible glory. If you had the choice to reduce the amount of time you're bleeding from your unmentionables, why wouldn't you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 04:39 AM |
| 3 | Can men and women be just friends?I just think that it's perfectly reasonable for a guy who experiences unrequited romantic feelings to end the friendship because it's too painful. I believe this is also reasonable. You can't choose to flip your emotions on and off like a switch. If a relationship is toxic to your wellbeing in any way, I'd GTFO. ` I think a lot of the condemning attitude probably comes from a sense of empathy towards the woman. (I'm not saying this is right or wrong really) When someone says "He left the relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 03:58 AM |
| 2 | Do women have a right to birth control?You know why breast cancer charities / pink ribbons get so much support as opposed to prostate cancer? There are two reasons: * It's really friggin profitable. Think of all the times you see pink ribbons thrown on products that generally have nothing to do with cancer awareness. These companies are making a BUNDLE, and only a fraction of those profits actually go to support the cause. * Sex sells. Breasts are sexy (cancerous or not apparently. Jury's still out.) Profit profit profit. -Uno - Dos-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women be just friends?Oh, I'm sure that the fact that people can convince themselves that 'if I'm there for them some day their feelings will change' (I see this in both men and women) but to come to the conclusion men and women can't be just friends just from that fact alone is kinda silly. It's fair enough point to argue that it may be a less-likely occurrence, but you can't dismiss long-term friendships simply as orbiters or what have you purely for that reason. *edited this because it was a clusterfuck of repetit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/14 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Can men and women be just friends?If your male friends are single and not getting laid, there's a good chance they want to bang you. I can't say I read my male friend's minds, so sure, maybe they have thought about having sex with me at one point or another. I'll concede that. But go as far as 'orbit me' after I've made it abundantly clear that I don't have any romantic interest? That's just masochism. And I assume it would die out pretty quickly. I've been friends with most of these people for 5+ years. I think that's plenty of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/14 04:49 PM |
| 3 | Can men and women be just friends?The vast majority of my friends are male (there are only two/three lady friends that I keep in regular contact with. I actually met my best friend through one of my male friends because she was dating him. Hurr) And I'm pretty sure none of my male friends are pining for my love and affection. But then again, I openly broach the whole "define our relationship" bit in the beginning of the friendship, because I'd hate for someone to think I was stringing them along. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/14 08:00 AM |
| 4 | What's your opinion on love?That's how we frame challenges when we want to kick ass. Don't take it personal... unless you want to. I can understand it up to a point, but to take it as far as the reverse-pedestal is a little unnerving. Women don't truly love / are all hypergamous (I have to google that every time because spellcheck doesn't like it. ) / never mature past their teenage years... All that stuff, (even if it's used purely in hyperbole) is going to either Slip into your subconscious judgement if you repeat it eno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/14 06:45 PM |
| 4 | What's your opinion on love?do you think love is a necessary or healthy part of the human experience? Having caring and affectionate relationships is a necessary part of the human experience in my opinion, but I think romantic love in particular isn't a must-have thing in order to live a fulfilling life. (Platonic love is the best kind of love imho. (◡ ‿ ◡ ✿) ) What parts of this red pill view on love do you object to? If I were to sum up everything I dislike about TRP's relationship views, I'd have to say that it's gotta … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/14 05:07 AM |
| 5 | Financial AbortionWith that thought in mind, lets say the man is pro-life, and even if he doesn't want to stay with the mother, he's uncomfortable about (what is in his mind) killing a child. How would you even judge that out? Would you want a judge to rule that the woman was not allowed to have the abortion even if she wishes it? What if the woman is extremely pro-life and thinks abortion was murder? What if the man demanded the pregnancy be terminated? Would you want a judge to rule she must have an abortion? I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/14 03:48 AM |
| 2 | What is your dark triad scoreNarcissism: 2.1 Machiavellianism: 1.8 Psychopathy: 0.8 Dang, I thought I would score a lot higher on the narcissist scale. But I'm apparently so awesome I tricked the system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/14 10:40 PM |
| 2 | Thoughts on Virgin Shaming?Let me clarify: I don't think badly of men who are virgins. Nor do I think badly of women who are 'sluts'. The problem with comparing the two is the term 'virgin' is very specific, where as slut is non-specific. Someone is a virgin when they have not had intercourse. That's it. Pretty cut and dry. "Sluttiness" is subjective. It can relate to clothing choices, to sexual history, to one's current actions, etc etc. Anyone can be considered slutty depending on who's the one being the judge. For exam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 10:44 PM |
| -1 | Thoughts on Virgin Shaming?I think the concept is brought up purely to contest the feminist concept of slut shaming.** I honestly see it as a tool people use to derail conversations, or to try to play the 'who is more oppressed' game... which is essentially trying to one-up each other in terms of who has it worse, rather than actually striving to fix those issues. Men are not punished for being virgins in the mainstream. Sure, they may be insulted, but they're not punished in the same way "slutty" women are. Virgin shamin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 10:01 PM |
| 8 | Thoughts on Virgin Shaming?Tell me, blue pillers, do you believe honestly Feminism cares and puts the same effort they put into bringing awareness to "slut shaming" into this "virgin shaming"? (e.g. like the slut walks). Why is it such a common insult even by post-modernists? The slutwalks are designed to be a motion of solidarity for the women who are blamed for being raped on account of what they wear. ("Her skirt was too short, she was asking for it") I see virgin shaming on the same level as I've seen creep shaming. A… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 06:21 AM |
| 1 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?It's all good. :) Its hard to bring up in casual conversation it's nice I got to talk about it a little. Haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 02:15 AM |
| 1 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?I love kids but I definitely don't want my own. I don't even think I'd adopt... But that has less to do with my asexuality as it does with my crippling fear of being wholly responsible for someone's well-being. Haha. Plus puppies are a thing. Much cuter and easier to raise. There are asexuals out there who form partnerships, but for the most part those are still romantic asexuals. (it's kind of weird to get your brain wrapped around, I know.) Basically they still feel romantic love, but not the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 02:04 AM |
| 1 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?Essentially. Like, the love you would feel for a family member. Romantic love doesn't really confuse me / alarm me, I've just never personally encountered it, even when I did try dating. I suppose things could change in the future, I'm almost 25 now and I haven't had a want/need for romantic relationships yet, so it seems a little unlikely in the long run. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 01:50 AM |
| 2 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?Oh no worries, I don't feel uncomfortable about it at all. I don't feel romantic or sexual attraction to people. Platonic love? Gimme gimme gimme. I have people I care about immensely, but it never transcends to the "let me make out with you" point. I also like looking at attractive people a lot, but I'd never do anything past looking because it doesn't appeal to me. (Like, Chris Hemsworth is mad pretty, you could chuck him into a room naked with me and I'd probably ogle for a minute.... then th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 01:29 AM |
| 2 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?Yup. I didn't pick up on the fancy wording until around 4 years ago, but I noticed the er.... symptoms(??) early on. Though I joke about sex and relationships a lot I consider myself to be an aromantic asexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/01/14 12:56 AM |
| 1 | What is it that you want? Ideally? Realistically? How are you working on making that happen?On both a short term and long term basis: What do you want? I really, really, really, want a zig a zig ah I cannot actually answer this question because I have 0 interest in relationships outside platonic friendship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/01/14 09:52 AM |
| 1 | I will kill myself if I don't lose my virginity in the next 3 months.Emotionally unstable people come in all shapes and sizes. I have empathy for those that are actively seeking to get better. This guy is not taking responsibility for his own wellness. (Even though the post is removed now, I'll quote it again) All comments attempting to change my world view, value system or persuading me that life is worth it or mocking me will be ignored. This is not introspective, this is not asking for real help for his issues. This is a misdirected effort to take responsibili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 11:55 PM |
| 1 | I will kill myself if I don't lose my virginity in the next 3 months.Hahaha. Okay, Yeah. Sure. Ad hominem. Try again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 10:56 PM |
| 0 | I will kill myself if I don't lose my virginity in the next 3 months.Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize Purple Pill Debate changed it's name to Purple Pill Psychiatry. This is just my own opinion, but I feel that OP is trivializing suicide because he can't get laid. He may very well be depressed, but he's definitely lacking self-awareness if he thinks his only problem is lack of intimacy. His title literally is trying to hold himself hostage. "Come fix my problems for me or else I'm going to kill myself." There is more at work here. We're not professionals, which is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 04:53 PM |
| 11 | I will kill myself if I don't lose my virginity in the next 3 months.I think you'll have more luck with a therapist or suicide hotline. Also just putting this out there, the term incel is really, really friggin stupid IMO. The universe does not owe you sex simply because you exist. Super passive-agressive is what that is. [Edit] All comments attempting to change my world view, value system or persuading me that life is worth it or mocking me will be ignored. Seriously though, what are you even doing here? For validation? Commiseration? This is a debate sub, not "… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/14 04:39 AM |
| 2 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortGo big or go home. lol Yeah, I can understand the hesitance to go full pixie because growing it out if you don't like it would be a BITCH. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/14 06:58 PM |
| 2 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortYeow, that is an event to say the least. I suppose it might be a style thing? When you say 'short' do you mean a bob or a pixie cut? Volume was always an issue when I had slightly longer hair, with a pixie cut it's barely noticeable, plus you don't need (in most cases) to straighten/put chemicals/do whatever to it, aside from keeping it trimmed. Which keeps your hair looking shinier and healthier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/14 07:13 AM |
| 1 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI tried once... there is way too much volume and wave to my hair to ever try again. Texturing shears, man. I've got relatively thick hair myself but once your hairdresser takes off a couple layers with those magical scissors everything is rainbows and unicorns. Until your next haircut when you come in with it poofy and bedraggled.... but I digress. It's a great cut in the summertime.... not so much in the winter unless you have an extensive collection of funky hats like I do. :B | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/01/14 06:58 AM |
| 0 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI don't see this as sexist, really. I don't really either, which is why I tried (sort of) to keep it gender neutral. It totally goes both ways. Iunno, I might have a skewed opinion on relationships... or maybe I'm just really independent because 'couples obligations' really really irritate me. "I've been dating x for x amount of years, but she still won't move in with me!" "She's not obligated to move in with you if she doesn't want to." "I've been dating x for x amount of years and he still has… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 07:18 PM |
| 1 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI don't understand why a person would be concerned about their partner changing their appearance. I know plenty of people who don't change their appearance because they know their partner likes it. However on the flip side, their partner wouldn't dissuade from changing their appearance if they wanted to. It's entitlement I have an issue with. Just because you're in a relationship with someone does not mean you have to defer to them about your own body. And this goes for both genders. (I find wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 06:12 PM |
| 4 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI like you when you're drunk. :D ahaha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 05:05 PM |
| 2 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI feel you on the fear of needles bit. /high fives 4 trypanophobia Yeah, my area is pretty lax about the tattoo thing, so long as it's tasteful no one really gives a crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 04:10 PM |
| 1 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortAhaha, yeah I wouldn't want to date me either. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 08:37 AM |
| 4 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortMy likes are of little to no concern compared to her own. When it's her own body, YES. Decorating your home, debate it out. Buying a car, debate it out. Choosing where to go on vacations, Debate it out. Those are worth-while decisions to get up in arms about and where your opinions matter. I think before any one worries about what their partner wants them to look like they have to worry about THEIR wants. Her appearance is not an extension of your own, you do not co-own it with her like you migh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 08:33 AM |
| 4 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortAgain, even using the word 'shouldn't' implies that by changing her own appearance she is wrong. Assuming she had long hair when we first met and started dating, why the change now? Because fashion and style changes over time? because she likes it? Because as an adult she is free to change her appearance at will? I would listen to her reasoning of course and consider. The only justification she would need would be to say that she likes how it looks. I can't imagine how an argument or discussion … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 08:15 AM |
| 9 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. The prospect that someone can't change something about their own bodies without the blessing of their significant other is something I can't begin to fathom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 08:04 AM |
| 11 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortIf your physical attraction to someone is easily challenged by a hairstyle update I'd imagine there was more at play there than just a makeover. With important relationship building decisions, yes, having everyone's opinion is great. For something as nitpicky as hair length? That's just silly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 07:45 AM |
| 5 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortIf she isn't that could be a problem that goes deeper than hair length. Let's say you had a discussion about your SO with hairstyle/length, and she cuts it regardless of your opinion. Did she wrong you? Why must she be considerate of your opinion on her own appearance? I really don't understand. If I had a SO that lopped off all their hair / changed their appearance drastically I wouldn't mind at all, because they're more than just their appearance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 07:23 AM |
| 16 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortPutting long hair in a pony tail or bun kind of defeats the purpose of having long hair in a way. That's not as attractive either IMO. See this is what ticks me off in all honesty. Now your intentions may not be this, but it comes off as a very blase form of policing the way someone looks. "Putting hair in a bun/pony tail defeats the purpose of it being long. Why is it long? Because I want it long. Because it appeals to me. And I'm the one women would conceivably do anything about their appearan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 06:38 AM |
| 7 | Words to live by? "My Boner Is My Master"Eughhh. That's just unpleasant, and kind of hilarious. Now I'm just imagining someone's dick blasting off from his body and flying around like a heat-seeking missile. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 06:18 AM |
| 3 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortThe woman I was mentioning earlier doesn't, but most the people I know are in freelance, and have that sort of hipster-graphic-design-kid look to 'em. So piercings, tattoos, the works. I suppose I'm biased from the areas that I know, because you can friggin look like some homeless kid and still get freelance work / be offered a job at media relations businesses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 05:48 AM |
| 7 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortOntario. We're pretty laid back here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 05:45 AM |
| 6 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortAh yeah, here it means diddly squat. I know a girl who has both cheeks, and between her eyes pierced, and crazy scarification done, tattoos, AND funky dyed hair, and she's got a steady office job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 05:03 AM |
| 4 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI feel like the whole "Don't get a tattoo, it'll hurt your job prospects' thing is a really.... outdated frame of mind. Maybe 10-15 years ago it could be a problem, but now with the prevalence of body modification I kind of see tattooing as a non-issue. Tattoos (as long as they're tasteful) are just the same in my mind as piercings / hair colour, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 04:31 AM |
| 14 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortThe fact longer hair is higher maintenance is a sign of female value You can argue that about short hair too. As someone with short hair I know I have to go to the salon a lot more often than those with longer hair. That would be a sign of high-maintenance. A lot of women with long hair don't need to wash it as much because they can put it up in a pony tail/bun to hide it. Short hair... naaa. You gotta wash that shit often or it goes all limp and yucky looking. There's a lot of different kinds o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 04:27 AM |
| 8 | Study: Men and Women Happier with ChivalryWhat are you gonna do, leave it to slam in their face if it's a dude? Oh my god, I actually held a door open for a kid during college and he glared at me, barked "NO!", opened the door on the other side and walked through it. I have no idea if he was kidding around or not, but I laughed like an idiot after I got over my fit of "wtf was that?!" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 04:15 AM |
| 8 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI love tattoos, but I'm too phobic of needles to go anywhere near a parlour. Iunno, if I were to be dating someone like that I'd probably do all those things just to be contrary. It absolutely grates on my nerves when a significant other (men or woman, lets be honest) tries to police what you wear/how you look. Like.... Damn. Who died and made you monarch? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 04:12 AM |
| 25 | In regards to women who cut their hair shortI suppose this is a question for everyone: Do you consider short hair on women to be a sign of passive aggression or even active defiance against men? I have short hair.... and yep! Pretty much! (jk) Srs tho, anyone who thinks short hair is a way of 'sticking it to the man' are kind of completely conceited. Not everything is about how it relates back to you. Yow. I cut pretty much all my hair off (pixie cut man. so cute) and I don't think I'll ever grow it back. So much more convenient, and my h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/14 03:59 AM |
| 6 | For BP regulars: are any of you married?Not married, not dating, not making goo-goo-eyes at anybody. I like my little hermit shell. :> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/14 06:33 PM |
| 4 | Ok, who here believes that men and women are entirely the same?This was the top pro RP post in that discussion. A lot of his argument seems to hinge on that 'men and women are different' italics stuff so I want to dig into that some more. Ah, yeah my reading comprehension has been out the window because I stayed up all night. I don't think we're on opposing sides actually. :B (not to mention I totally misinterpreted what your original post said. I apologize for that. :P ) OKAY. So. Stuff like this: raised since birth as women, majored in feminist studies so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/14 02:08 PM |
| 5 | Ok, who here believes that men and women are entirely the same?Just gonna put this out there but I've never seen that user construct such an overtly black-and-white oversimplified argument before. I'd actually like to see some direct quotes because I think you may be interpreting their comments strangely. I actually was called out about this by a redpiller earlier (I think it was /u/Vornash.... maybe? I forget) about grouping sex and gender as the same thing. Gender (as far as heteronormitivity goes) is a social construct. Claiming that a particular lifesty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/14 01:32 PM |
| 7 | Do gendered derogatory terms exist? What are some examples? Are derogatory terms ever damaging to use? When?[Edit in response to new flare: I thought OP was wanting people to prove that gendered insults were actually real... So this is a little bit of a 'duh' opinion from someone not of the redpill. Leaving it here because what's done is done. B: ] Bitch - When used against a woman it refers to her active assertive/abrasive/rude/bossy, etc etc Bitch - When used against a man it refers to him acting weak or not conforming to the 'manly aesthetic' Cunt - When used against a woman: See bitch Cunt - When … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/14 01:12 PM |
| 5 | Ok, who here believes that men and women are entirely the same?[EDIT] Ohlawdy. I misread a 'neck up' as 'neck down' which leads to the incredulous tone of this post. I no longer am incredulous and I can understand what debate OP is trying to get at. (even if I still think it's clumsily constructed) [/EDIT] I don't think many people are arguing that anatomically men and women are the same. That's an obtuse way of stating an argument. It makes one wonder what kind of hamfisted debate you're trying to stir up. TRP is very focused on a Heteronormativite lifesty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/14 01:00 PM |
| 4 | Hunger Games: Catching Firebut the whole point of the movie is about reversal of gender roles, We live in a world where the majority of block busters feature almost exclusively male casts (with one or two females thrown in as tokens) so I can see where this view of Hunger Games as a role-reversal thing comes through..... if you're particularly short sighted. As Ladyjellybeans says below, it's not about role-reversal. The main story in the movie is about revolution, and oppressed societies fighting against their oppressors… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/13 05:55 PM |
| 8 | Girl says "you shouldn't listen to me".. What does that mean?Relationships in movies, ESPECIALLY romantic comedies are totally oversimplified and exaggerated. The main idea behind them is to: 1. Make the main characters identifiable and memorable 2. Do everything in their power to bring around a 'happy ending'. They use quick cliches like 'the bad boy' or 'the woman who doesn't know what she wants' because they're way easier to write then actual in-depth and sincere characters. (not to say that there aren't actually sincere rom-coms.... I'm just not the b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/12/13 03:56 AM |
| 5 | How should you deal with childish acts of your partner?in practice denying various RP ideas does tend to cohere into a position of sorts I can agree with that, in a very, very broad sense. But that's like looking at the negative space left behind after you've removed a few pieces from a completed puzzle. You can see over all, it makes up a larger ideal, but not every piece is going to be exactly the same. My main beef with it is I don't want people pinning down my personal beliefs as a blue-pill belief and in doing so ignore other valid beliefs from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/13 12:45 AM |
| 7 | How should you deal with childish acts of your partner?Maybe it's just me, but I feel like I see the misconception a lot. I feel weird responding to questions regarding BP's 'stance' or 'way of doing things' because I don't want people to think I'm talking for BP as a whole, or that there is any decided upon ideology in TBP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/13 11:37 PM |
| 20 | How should you deal with childish acts of your partner?The BP method is literally any method that is not the RP method. I feel like I should preface ever post with that. BP = the absence of RP. We have no set ideology other than we think the red pill is silly. My personal opinion is, if a significant other is tantrum-ing, or picking fights just for shits & giggles I'd calmly say something along the lines of "You're obviously really passionate about this, but I feel like there's not much I can do to help you right now. How about we just give each oth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/13 03:58 PM |
| 8 | The issues people have with TRPThe concept of "last minute resistance" is another sketchy one in my opinion. If you're a perfect and absolutely flawless reader of body language maybe you could pull it off, but to the average person that's just going to instill some extra aggressiveness that'll most likely get them in trouble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/13 01:13 AM |
| 2 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?Which women then? Why does hypergamy exist in some women and not in others? You can't announce a broad statement like "women display hypergamous tendencies" and then narrow it down when you're questioned. And besides, according to TRP views, women are biologically wired to be hypergamous. If you don't believe the view that it's based on biology and it's only -some- women, why bother giving credence to the assertion at all? You can't have it both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 11:01 PM |
| 2 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?It's a belief that's completely sexist, and true. And if we find a single woman that has not 'traded up' for a significant other then the statement is false. And I know plenty of women who have not 'traded up' partners for a newer, cleaner model. :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?Yes. It would be in this case, benevolent sexism. Because you're not actively being hateful to women by saying it, but the end result is still the same by which you're insulting approximately half the population of the world. Sexism doesn't have to be angry or violent for it to be sexism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 06:58 PM |
| 5 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?And I told her, "You dumb fucking cunt, you are not going to naturally grow a dick." I would have said something hateful, sexist, and still be truthful. The language used is hateful but it's not exactly what we're talking about. Perhaps the way you worded your original post (along with the topic you posted it in, concerning TRP rhetoric) confused me. Calling someone names is not the same as saying "women are hypergamous sluts", the former is being an asshole, the latter is being a misogynist. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 07:17 AM |
| 3 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?I apologize for policing tone then, but my point still stands that assuming intersex people are 'neither' gender is being dismissive of them. Okay, I'm going to have to make a distinction here then: Are you of the impression that women & men are the way they are PURELY because of their physiology then? With regards to your original comment: Something can be hateful sexist, and still be true. Do you believe that certain "correct" sexist ideologies can be applied to anyone of the female sex regard… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 06:53 AM |
| 5 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?A male cannot experience menstruation. That's a very narrow scale to look at. They are neither male or female, occupying an inbetween. That sounds kind of condescending. They're not neither gender, they're a mix between male and female (with varying combinations of parts) One could argue they would be the purest form of "clean slate" from your argument. But there are certain parts of who you are that do not exist if one is male, or if one is female. And this says nothing in relation to the trans… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 06:32 AM |
| 5 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?For one the rejection of the blank slate. Can you expand on that? You made a rather inflammatory post, but this does nothing to explain your position in depth. Men and women are different. I agree with this. But I would go further. Everyone is different. People are not made from cookie-cutters, forcing any sort of gender role or generalization on people is dismissive and really quite rude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/13 05:49 AM |
| 9 | Do you find the fact that TRP contains this kind of rhetoric a problem?The sexist and hateful parts I can disagree with. But the parts that are true, there is no argument. What parts of the linked comment do you believe to be true (if anything)? Or, which ideologies in TRP do you think are both sexist & true? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/12/13 05:37 AM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?And TBH I think you'd be able to find something like "TRP early adopters" at any point in history. I won't argue with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/13 01:31 AM |
| 1 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?Ah! Thanks! That was bugging me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/13 01:09 AM |
| 1 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?So did Red Pill take its ideas from "everyone else (ie the blue pill)" or from "'early adopters' and therefore not official members of TBP"? All early adopters are is TRP without the name. I called them that just for the sake of argument of "before/after" concepts. They still are TRPers, they just haven't seen the matrix yet. TBH I'm a little confused about what you're trying to argue. On the one hand, you seem to want to credit Blue Pill with first coming up with Red Pill ideas, but on the othe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/13 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?I aint walkin' into this trap, you're gonna try to catch me with "well then all red pill ideology is technically blue pill!" But no. I got you! Before the matrix came out and you got your fancy name TRPers were called male-supremacists, sexists, religious fundamentalists and a whole whack of other things. I'd argue any ideals that mimic the redpill back then were 'early adopters' and therefore not official members of TBP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/13 12:24 AM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?The blue pill is simply those who are not redpill. We have no set ideology or belief systems, aside from the fact we don't ascribe to the red pill. The red pill is a fairly new occurrence. Basic society on the other hand is a little bit older. So yeah. Blue Pill came first in this chicken-egg debate. We just didn't need a name for it until TRP cropped up and started to annoy us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/13 12:11 AM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?They in fact want to subordinate themselves to a worthy man’s life purpose, to help him achieve that purpose with their feminine support, and to follow the path he lays out. Sorry, before I actually reply I just want to take a moment and laugh at this excerpt. That sounds like an onion article. Gotta hand it to the guy, it gave me a good giggle right there. I don't endorse most of what this guy says tbh,* but your "Blue Pill" advice isn't too far off in this case. I see the similarities but all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 11:56 PM |
| 6 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?This is an argument against straw Red Pill, not Red Pill. I never said that I was referencing the red pill. OP specifically stated "He wanted something that works"... I was saying there wasn't anything that could guarantee he'd get laid. I'm not a very subtle writer. I don't have much nuance. Just so ya know. This is Red Pill. Yes, with a side order of bigotry and a large sexist-shake to go please! (Snarking aside wow. There is a lot more to TRP then just 'look good and act confident, or else th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?I like that you made that distinction, thank you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 11:20 PM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?The way things are is that women expect/need more out of a relationship than men do, and she won't necessarily tell you what to do, you have to know what to do and when there's a problem developing. When you come home from work after a long day your work is not over, it's arguably just begun. I don't want to get into a long winded post, so that will have to do for now. So you essentially mean that having a woman as a significant other would be akin to having a part-time/full time job? Don't you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?Oh, I retract my statement about the 44% bit then. (I haven't read up on divorce stats recently obviously. ) But bringing it back to my question earlier (I only mentioned the maturity one as an example) what do you feel are "the way things are" about women-kind? Like, say someone was to come to you after they've finished up the venting/demonizing process and asked you what the core opinion of women was from the TRP perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 09:12 PM |
| 3 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?If women do start 66% of divorces maybe you can say they're more practical because they realized the marriage wasn't working out. Maybe they're more realistic because they knew that their SO's goals and their own goals did not mesh. It doesn't necessarily mean all women are emotional and flighty. And even still, that's 44% of men, so it can't be that women are a LOT more emotional. (Maybe 22% more emotional. That's barely 1/4th. B: My elementary school math is kickin' in!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 08:45 PM |
| 6 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?By "Acceptance of the way things are" what do you mean? What are "the way things are" in your opinion? Because you can still be hateful if you're not actively hating women. Like, one stance I find particularly hateful in TRP is the idea that "women don't mature past 18 / Most responsible child in the house" bit. You can believe you don't hate women and believe that they're children at the same time, but in the end regardless of intent it would be the women being hurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 08:28 PM |
| 3 | How does TBP feel about "manthers"?Ohhh! Yeah, I completely forgot about the silver fox! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 08:16 PM |
| 2 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?The whole, "women are evil, women are evil..." thing is meant to delay this process, because we're working on altering beta behavior which is not all that simple. And over time that poisons the mindset of men into believing women are indeed inferior/evil/what have you. And that is unexceptionable. You can't make a person better by layering positive self esteem with bigotry and hate. That's like saying you should build up a white individual's self esteem by poisoning their opinion of a black indi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 08:15 PM |
| 3 | How does TBP feel about "manthers"?I'm trying to think of a better word but they're all coming out pretty stupid. GUYger (tiger) BobCat* (AHAHA) Manteater? (anteater???) Maybe it's the whole mashup whereas the female "Cougar" has none. *I like that one. Let's use that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 07:52 PM |
| 3 | How does TBP feel about "manthers"?I honest to god never have heard this term before, I thought it was a mash of the word "man" and "mother" and was thinking "But... there's a word for that already? Father, Right?" So if you were confused as I was, A manther (according to Urban Dictionary) is a male cougar (older man who goes for younger women.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 06:50 PM |
| 5 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?and all the women on reddit going around telling them that confidence is attractive while they aren't confident feels an awful lot like a fat person hearing that being thin is attractive. It's funny how we don't see any subreddits made by overweight individuals that demonize and reduce thin people down to sub-human levels. ("They can't really love, their BMI doesn't hold the capacity for love! It's SCIENCE" ) You can't excuse TRP's behavior by saying they're hurt. Being hurt does not give you th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 05:13 PM |
| 9 | Confused "beta" guy here. I've been reading TRP and, although I don't like it, a lot of it makes sense to me. Can any "blue pillers" tell me THEIR guide to a guy getting laid?Gonna put this one out there: There is no universal cheat code that'll get you laid. Things that will raise your chances are being attractive and confident. Now if you're lacking in one or more of those qualities then your job will be harder. (Sad truefax of the day.) If you only care about what is guaranteed to get you sex the easiest solution is to find a prostitute. (Not that I'm condoning it really, but it is a guaranteed way...) Is it possible to be BP and get laid? Can the blue pillers tel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/13 02:59 PM |
| 7 | Blue Pill AdviceHypothetical date girl was communicating her feelings. Which is always a good thing in any budding relationship. (I'm under the impression this was a hypothetical first date) There could be a number of reasons she may not want to supply a goodnight kiss: Maybe she's shy and likes to take things slow Maybe she's got hellish halitosis Maybe she is indeed not attracted to you The way she hypothetically went about it wasn't very tactful, but it gets the point across. My advice would be to not press … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/13 10:32 PM |
| 3 | "women lack character, honor, integrity, loyalty and fidelity in general"The Canadian thought police just showed up at my door and politely asked me to 'knock it off'. :( | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/13 04:26 AM |
| 5 | The Ideal WorldNo friggin kidding! Plus, it brought up the idea of a sexual-theme park.... Like... "after you're done on the cock-carousel, wanna head over to the labia-coster or the bumper-breasts?" Absolutely hysterical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/13 10:30 AM |
| 2 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?So every guy in a fraternity that pulls is shitty, every guy at a club that pulls is shitty. THEY'RE ALL DOING THE SAME THING. It doesn't matter WHO or WHY someone is using game. The fact that they're doing it at all is shitty. Even if it works, it's shitty. Even if the girl would never conceivably catch on to the game, it's shitty. Game is immoral. Everything else you wrote I'm kinda floundering to respond to... I have no idea about sorority life, so this is all kinda greek to me. But I suppose… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 08:23 PM |
| 4 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?If it sounds like a duck and looks like a duck....... Game only looks out for the person using it. Everyone else is cannon fodder where feelings and empathy are concerned. I don't think I'm misrepresenting game in the slightest. (I'd say coercion strategy more than 'rape strategy', though I can definitely see where people would come up with that claim. ) I can genuinely say that people that are actually using some of the different 'games' PUAs/RP advocate legitimately frightens me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 08:15 PM |
| 2 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?So all those guys who naturally do it? Again, reiterating my point from earlier, it's a different kind of shitty, but still shitty none the less. but if i come across to much of a good guy it wont get my dick sucked. I'd say then you're hanging out with the wrong kind of women then. The whole 'girls like a bad boy' cliche is frightfully overblown. Until i take them out on a date or two and if i'm going to pay to get laid by some girl that most likely bores the shit out of me anyways because her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 10:15 AM |
| 1 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?Ahhh. Sorry for ruining the joke then! <sup>And thank you for pandering to my terrible sense of subtlety. bahaha I would have wondered for ages if not. </sup> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:51 AM |
| 3 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?In my personal opinion, using PUA / game / sexual strategy whathaveyou makes one an asshole. The base idea of PUA seems to be "nothing matters but the yes", and that is legitimately frightening. It leads to aggressiveness in some cases, and pushing someone after a firm 'no' is a red flag in my mind. I'm sure people can get away with being an asshole because they've got other qualities that make up for it, but my own personal preference is 'can you not?'. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:49 AM |
| 1 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?Welp. I guess we're both stuck in intent-limbo then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:36 AM |
| 5 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?If you act in a shitty way naturally I'm not going to date you either. The difference is intent. Someone who doesn't know how much of an asshole they are in a separate category from someone intentionally acting like an asshole for whatever reason. They're both crappy categories, and it's hard to say which is worse from the other. Either way, I'd avoid them and look for someone who's actually sincere and sees me as a person not an objective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:34 AM |
| 1 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?I'm so bad at discerning sarcasm online. Can't tell if you're being flippant or not. if I ruined the joke I apologize. :B | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:31 AM |
| 6 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?Ding ding ding! We have a winner! This is one of the hardest truths to swallow at first. Sorry to sound condescending, but wow. Wow. That isn't some universal deep secret or whatever, that's you, projecting your self-esteem issues on society so you don't need to take ownership of them. Ever hear of cognitive bias? It's (in basic terms) when you only really accept / remember / notice situations which fit your predetermined attitude? You've got all these examples from your own life and own social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 02:06 AM |
| 3 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?Believe me, I know what you're saying about demographics. <--- Advertising kid. But I don't necessarily agree with your post here. When you tease a girl and make her validate herself to you, that makes her like you. I wouldn't categorize negging as 'teasing', negging is a form of harassment. (a small form, but harassment all the same.) Teasing is playful and lighthearted. Negging literally is trying to tear someone down in order to make them more susceptible to whatever 'game' you're playing. Wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/13 12:27 AM |
| 9 | If TRP is ineffective, what sexual "strategies" do work?It feels like the idea behind sexual strategy is like.... "here's the cheat code to relationships" the 'game' breaks down however when you think about all these 'cheats' you're applying are to other human beings, rather than NPCs. Using 'cheats' like negging, physical escalation, (nope) and dread game (nope nope nope nope) to coerce someone else into intimacy is immoral at best. I don't think there is really any 'moral' sexual strategy that you can work on another person. All that stuff's gotta … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/13 10:20 PM |
| 3 | The Ideal WorldHow is that a contradiction? Women shouldn't be treated differently for being on the workforce rather than childcare, and men shouldn't be judged for being stay-at-home dads. I'm not offended when people choose to do the opposites of that at all, the choice should be available to whomever wants it. Enforcing that choice, or judging them for their choices is what needs to stop. Or, if you were referring to my second point (the PUA bit)..... I don't think there needs to be any gendered standards a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/13 08:08 PM |
| 1 | The Ideal WorldI know exactly what you mean, my brain just can't come to a decent end-point so I feel like I have to continue to justify whatever I'm saying. Repetition is something that happens often too. Woops. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/13 02:02 AM |
| 5 | The Ideal WorldAnd that's a definitely sucky situation to be in, because a lot of social shifts in the dating game can come internally from within that group. Talking on a really really basic level, if people just did away entirely with what I'll call "the slut preoccupation" and weren't so concerned about the sex a woman may or may not be having, and focused more on having enjoyable social interaction, a lot more women would probably be open to casual sex, because they wouldn't fear judgement that went along … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/13 01:16 AM |
| 8 | The Ideal WorldI can see where you're coming from, but just because something works doesn't mean it's the best course of action. No one's saying a solution has to be found RIGHT NOW, but supporting / endorsing negative views like the PUA movement is kind of an assbackwards way of solving an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/13 04:33 PM |
| 19 | The Ideal WorldThat is an excellent post first of all. I feel like TRP is just a bunch of double standards. "Oh yeah, you had 20 sexual misadventures this year? Good on you bro! Look at this slut, she's been riding the cock-carousel! ewww!" It seems to go like this: Guys are supposed to / allowed to have a lot of sex. Girls are not supposed to / allowed to have lots of sex. Who the hell are the dudes supposed to be having sex with then? It's setting everyone up for failure right off the bat. Also, I don't know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/13 02:26 PM |
| 2 | The Ideal WorldA lot more women probably would, if they weren't so tired of being judged for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/13 02:16 PM |
| 4 | The Ideal WorldI do believe OP said "Ideal world"..... never said anything about how probable it would be. Sexual strategy is what I was talking about when I said "dont treat people like science experiments"... if you're doing something negative, like treating a person like an obstacle you have to overcome in order to get intimacy, you're doing it wrong. (I know not all sexual strategy is like that, but a lot of it is.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/13 02:15 PM |
| 20 | The Ideal WorldThat question deserves an essay answer, but since no one would read that I'll try to condense. First of all I'd like to do away with the whole "female sexuality is taboo" as a social norm. (that encompasses sexualization of breast feeding, placing judgement on women who have many partners, forcing abstinence on teen girls and instilling the belief they're only as pure as their vaginas are, etc) - Then, break down basic gender roles, so for example dads wont get the stink-eye at the park when the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/13 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Is feminism about equal rights?Read that as "biotooth" and was severely confused. ahaha! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/13 10:55 PM |
| 3 | Is feminism about equal rights?I don't know why people over think this so much, in my opinion it's a pretty simple answer: Men have to work harder for sex because a man's sexual exploits are congratulated. Women on the other hand don't generally get congratulated, but instead get judged. ("Slut" being the term that is tossed around in most cases ) If you had to potentially open yourself to that criticism every time you were to get intimate with someone I think you'd be a bit wary of it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/10/13 10:33 PM |
| 3 | "Science faculty’s subtle gender biases favor male students" (PNAS article)WOAH WOAH, hold the phone there. What's with all the accusatory language? Suddenly you're lashing out when I only wanted to discuss politely? There are no typically male or female names. There are only names. In a perfect world, yes. But no matter your reasoning, people are still going to equate traditionally male names to men, and traditionally female names to females. Unless you're saying that transgender people never change their birth name when transitioning to reflect their inner persona? I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/13 12:02 AM |
| 3 | "Science faculty’s subtle gender biases favor male students" (PNAS article)Names can imply gender though. (It is a crappy towards transgendered individuals, I agree with that) All the same though, I don't really agree that the study was transphobic. Or not super-overtly. I could be missing some key points. Since they set out to test specifically that there was a bias against women in that particular field, they tested men vs women. Thus typically men names vs typically female names. I'm not sure where the transphobia fits in with that study, because I'm under the impre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/13 07:57 PM |
| 2 | "Science faculty’s subtle gender biases favor male students" (PNAS article)I don't think the study is any more transphobic than say.... a baby naming book. I'm all for naming a kid whatever, or choosing to name yourself whatever, but the fact exists that there are three categories people associate with names: Male names, female names, and unisex/gender neutral names. Trying to understand where you're coming from here, But I don't really think potential employers are agonizing over the fact that a job applicant may be transgender from their name alone. Now if we were to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/13 10:28 AM |
| 3 | SlutsThat's pretty friggin' scary. Updating my "red flag" list, lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/13 03:36 AM |
| 10 | SlutsDropping the L word two weeks in? Iunno about the girls you date, but that would be a red flag in my mind. It feels like you're jumping the gun and getting desperate way too soon in the relationship. I consider the first month or two of dating to be a probation period, if you're trying to press someone into emotional intimacy too soon they'd most likely be turned off and leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/13 03:08 PM |
| 4 | ShamingI'd read the hell out of that! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/13 09:59 PM |
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