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6	Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying society It's embarrassing that he's so wrong when a simple google search would've told him this is false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:50 PM
5	Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying society Historically incorrect. The individual nuclear family has never been the rule. It has always been very common, but there have always existed many other forms of family models. Industrialization is when households consisting of only nuclear families became more prominent than other family models. Prior to this, households that were multi-generational with the extended family living within the same household as the nuclear/immediate family were just as common as nuclear family only households. Spe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:48 PM
3	Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying society Individualism truly helps no one but capitalists lmao	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:19 PM
–	I believe the root cause for the existence of so many incels (as in, bitter, misogynistic and aggressive guys with sexual frustrations) isn't entitlement of women's bodies. It's virgin shaming. I don't know where people get this from, or like, where do they experience this? Whenever I've rejected guys I've pretty much always said "Thank you, but I'm not interested." and that was the end of it. Maybe if a guy was particularly weird about the way he asked I would bring it up to friends as a weird interaction I had, but laughing at him or calling him disgusting is something that I never think to do. Having low social skills definitely makes people uncomfortable, but I've never seen people…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:06 PM
19	Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying society I think this is what makes this rhetoric so annoying. Humans have only lived like that for a small blip in the grand scheme of history, and it was only western civilization. A lot of that was only possible due to the post-war economic boom. It's equally annoying when people harp on about the destruction of the nuclear family, as if that's how human family units have always organized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:58 PM
2	What year did women achieve equality? Getting in a car expresses a willingness to get into a car crash. Nothing short of forgoing cars is 100% effective at preventing car crashes. EDIT: To give a non-facetious response: This will always be a dumb and illogical argument. The fact that so many women are using some form of birth control (condoms, pills, IUD, implants, etc.) expresses that they are very clearly not willing to get pregnant. Just like the majority of people get into cars and wear seat belts and use their turn signals and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:26 PM
6	Reposted: Why I think the "trad" lifestyle is not a one-size-fits-all and forcing it is destroying society Agree. They want women to want children and marriage, but don't realize we live in a society that doesn't truly support mothers and never has. Mothers are expected to do it all on their own and if they can't, then they've already failed. I'm going to be child-free because there's legitimately not a maternal bone in my body. This is something I've known about myself since middle school. I also suffer from PMDD. My periods quite literally make me suicidal and I've dealt with this all the way up un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:25 PM
3	If your job skills were hopeless, would you rather be a sex worker or a housewife? It's very obvious that this is the case. A lot of men here do not realize how hard women have fought to have other options in life besides being a housewife. They think it'd be a great option so long as you marry a great dude. And yeah for some women it is, but many women want something different out of their lives. Many of them genuinely don't get it, and probably never will. It's never been a possible reality to them at all, because men have always had options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:17 PM
1	If your job skills were hopeless, would you rather be a sex worker or a housewife? Well yes when we hear so many stories of how women were trapped in marriages with men they didn't like, forced to take care of his children, along with everything else, I can see how many women would prefer to be a worker drone. At least when you're a worker drone the work eventually stops. If you're a housewife that's a 24/7 job.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:12 PM
2	What year did women achieve equality? Whether it's murder or not is a philosophical debate. What isn't debatable is that regardless, the child doesn't have the right to use an unwilling woman's body to sustain its life. 🤷	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 10:02 PM
5	If your job skills were hopeless, would you rather be a sex worker or a housewife? This. EDIT: Now if the OP has specified that it needed to be sex work where you are actually having sex with customers, I'd rather be a house wife. I think that kind of sex work exposes you to way more dangerous things than being financial dependent on someone, and the US is not a place that legally gives a fuck about sex workers anyways. Meanwhile as a housewife I'd have some options for legal action if my spouse was abusive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:33 AM
17	If your job skills were hopeless, would you rather be a sex worker or a housewife? You didn't specify what type of sex work so... I know there are men who will pay a lot of money for feet pics🤔	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:22 AM
2	What year did women achieve equality? It's not selfish if you're literally acting with someone else's benefit in mind. That is the antithesis of what being selfish means.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:19 AM
6	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. What woman expects this out of their relationship? Genuinely, this is bizarre because I have never seen this behavior, not from the couples I personally know and not out in public either. It's as if you guys take the rarest behaviors from modern relationships and then turn around an proclaim that this is something all women want and expect. EDIT: shit this is why i was genuinely confused as to what he was referring to, because i would never think that this is something people believe women expec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 08:32 AM
5	Most women want socially liberal men who are capable of engaging in “benevolent misogyny “. saying that holding doors opened for women is an example of benevolent sexism is really delusional lmao you should be holding the door open for anyone coming immediately behind you. it's just common courtesy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:58 AM
3	What year did women achieve equality? Cars crashing is a highly likely outcome of getting into a car, but it is not a guaranteed outcome. Reproduction is a highly likely outcome of PIV sex, but it is not a guaranteed outcome, nor is it the only reason we have sex. A draft is not going to happen just because war might happen. And okay if getting into a car is consenting to the outcome then we should simply get rid of car insurance I guess. If you didn't want to risk getting into a crash you shouldn't have gotten in the car, so why sh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:35 AM
2	What year did women achieve equality? Your example makes no sense and I'm legitimately confused as to what point you were trying to make. It is a right. It is about bodily autonomy. It's also not inherently selfish. Many of the women who have abortions already have children they need to take care of, and they don't want to add more on top of that. There is nothing evil about not wanting your body to be irreparably changed. Women are not having abortions out of malice. It is, however, inherently malicious to make a woman go through w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 07:30 AM
2	What year did women achieve equality? It does not matter if the fetus is a seperate individual. A woman should not be forced to use her body or her body's resources to support its life. Just like I cannot be forced to donate my organ to someone so they can live. That person will die as a direct result of my decision, but that is still no reason to violate my right to bodily autonomy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:26 AM
1	What year did women achieve equality? Whether a woman terminates her pregnancy means deciding whether a woman will have to use her body and its resources to gestate a baby, meaning that whether a woman has the right to terminate her pregnancy also decides whether she has a right to total control over what happens to her body. Therefore, abortion is a concern of bodily autonomy. Men do have the right to bodily autonomy in the US. I'm ignoring your question about trans men because it is obviously not in good faith. I'm also ending thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:23 AM
0	What year did women achieve equality? How likely do you think that in 2024, during the average mans life time, he will be drafted into war? Now, how likely do you think that, in the average women's lifetime, she may potentially be pregnant? One of these is a reality someone faces every day. The other hasn't happened in 51 years, and will never happen again as there would be severe public backlash. Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. Just like getting in a car isn't consenting to getting in a car crash. Just like owning thing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:17 AM
2	What year did women achieve equality? Irrelevant. We're not talking about China.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:07 AM
6	What year did women achieve equality? Abortion is about bodily autonomy. Men have bodily autonomy. Women do not. Also, weak bait idiot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:04 AM
0	What year did women achieve equality? Abortion is about body autonomy. Body autonomy is about the right to decide what happens to your body. You can't be forced to donate organs. You can't be forced to donate blood. You can't be forced into medical treatments against your will, meaning you can turn down a life saving treatment if you wish so. You can't even be revived against your will if you have a DNR order. I don't know how abortions are handled in Germany nor is it relevant because we're discussing the US. In the US, men have fu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 04:03 AM
16	What do you think about MGTOW and WGTOW? A lot of MGTOW do not seem like they're voluntarily choosing to do so, rather they are doing it out of spite and they think this decision will make a difference. If a woman decides to remain single for life, I often see that she seems content to do so. It doesn't seem like she's doing it out of malice or bitterness, though I don't doubt that there are women like that who exist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:12 AM
5	What year did women achieve equality? Overturning Roe did ban abortion in many places. It does not matter if the ruling itself didn't ban abortion, the end result of saying the constitution doesn't protect the right to abortion is abortion bans. The direct result of overturning Roe means that abortions were banned in many states. Arguing otherwise is pure semantics and a waste of time. Let's ignore the fact that gerrymandering exists and politicians generally just being full of shit means laws may be passed that most people didn't v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 03:06 AM
6	What year did women achieve equality? Ignoring the fact that over 25 million women live in states where it's banned and therefore do not have autonomy over their bodies and this is something men will never have to deal with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:23 AM
7	What year did women achieve equality? 1.) All forms of birth control still have a chance to fail. Even sterilization can fail. 2.) Most women can't afford to just take off from work at a moments notice to travel to another state for an abortion. If someone suddenly had to purchase a roundtrip plane ticket today, is that a reasonable expense you could expect someone to plan for? And if not, do you think most people have the resources to take off days from work to travel to drive to another state? This is a comment made out of ignoran…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:20 AM
7	What year did women achieve equality? Men risk nothing in the reproductive process and women risk their lives. If women do not have ready access to terminating a pregnancy then they do not have autonomy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 02:10 AM
-4	“I’ll take Anyone at this Point” Assuming he is looking for a LTR and presumably wants to get married, his options fully depends on what he's looking for in a woman. Also taking into account that he seems to be primarily using dating apps to get dates, I would argue that he's already severely limiting his options as men outnumber women on every dating app. I also have a hard time believing that if he was truly willing to take anyone that he'd still be single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:23 AM
3	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Dominate is a word that by definition requires action when in the context of dominating a relationship, or dominating another person. Elsa can't sit there and do nothing and be able to dominate John.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:14 AM
19	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? People perceive a man being abusive to be a threat to a woman's life. This is often one of the most common reasons women do not leave abusive relationships, because they're afraid that they will die if they try. And statistically, this is true. Most women who're killed in abusive relationships are killed when they attempt to leave. It is the most dangerous time period. They do not see a woman being abusive to be a threat to a man's life, so the logic follows that they do not see a woman being ab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:10 AM
22	Why are so many men subservient to their wife/gf? Ok so how you do you know if there's women are actually dominating the relationship? If you're seeing this behavior yourself, they're no longer in private but in a social situation where group pressures may be present. How do you know if they behave the same in private? And if you're not seeing this behavior yourself and only hearing about it secondhand from friends, then how do you confirm what they're saying and that the woman is in fact dominating the relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:06 AM
4	What year did women achieve equality? regardless of the answers now that roe v wade has been overturned they'd be lying to say women have equality in the US no country where a woman can be forced to give birth is a country where women have equal rights. especially in the US which has the highest mortality rate for pregnant women among all developed countries, and that maternal mortality rate has only considered to get worse and worse over the years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 12:59 AM
11	“I’ll take Anyone at this Point” I feel like they're anyone who says that is over-exaggerating. Even when desperate, there's definitely exists someone that they will not take. But I would say to your friend that there are a bunch of good looking, average height dudes in LA who are conventionally attractive. He's not a man that stands out from the rest of the men in LA. Perhaps if he's really that desperate, he needs to consider moving to a different city.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 12:50 AM
–	Women, Have all your straight male friends tried to sleep with you? Or do you think they would given the chance? No, and no. For reference I'm 21. A lot of my straight male friends are single so I imagine if they were attracted to me they would've said something by now. I am a lesbian and they know this too, but tbh from the stories I've heard this unfortunately doesn't seem to dissuade a lot of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 05:15 PM
–	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? I thought it was fairly obvious but here: Saying that "Men do not care about a woman's career or intelligence" directly contradicts the statement "Men in general are a lot less superficial when it comes to anything really." It is the most superficial thing to not care about a potential partner's career path or intelligence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/24 04:38 PM
1	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? The jokes continue to write themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/24 02:54 AM
4	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? "men in general are a lot less superficial when it comes to anythign really." "Men do not care about a woman's career or intelligence." the jokes write themselves	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 07:30 PM
1	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? This is a great example of someone who has no idea how girls play. If you saw what girls did to dolls you'd be horrified.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 07:27 PM
2	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? From my own experience it was just that the bad kids were so bad that they made everyone else seem better by comparison. You get a lot of brownie points from teachers by just being quiet, you don't even have to perform well in school.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 07:21 PM
1	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? Idk. Maybe in other social groups. With the people I hung out with I never saw anything like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:45 AM
2	What are some partner behaviors that are commonly considered cheating, but you don't (or otherwise don't mind)? I've literally never called anyone broken or insecure in any of my posts in this thread. Nor have I demonized people who are uncomfortable. I just said it's not something that I would outright consider cheating unless given more reasons to suspect them. It's clear now that you're just going to keep putting words in my mouth so I'm going to end this conversation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:22 AM
9	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? I've noticed more that "good" kids, aka the ones that got good grades and never really got into trouble, were the ones who got the special treatment and privileges. I remember in middle school if you made honor role you'd get out of school 5-10 mins early. You would literally get a pass to wear with your ID lanyard that listed all the privileges you had as an honor roll student lmao. No one really paid attention to the attractiveness of girls and gave them better treatment because of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:18 AM
4	Why do girls tend to arrange social groups in terms off attractiveness, whereas boys tend to do it in terms of interest? There weren't cliques at my high school. We organized into friend groups based on our extracurriculars and what classes we took together. I don't really know if there were popular girls, because it didn't really seem like it. But there were students who were well known because they got in trouble a lot, and some of those were girls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 01:14 AM
16	Why do most of the women don't date younger? It makes me think the reasons for age gaps are more social than biological. Or, at the very least, there's something more going on than biological instinct. Or maybe people who're attracted to the same gender are just so different from straight people in how they experience physical attraction? I don't know, but it's really interesting. I think I've seen it argued that men want younger women because youth = fertility, but then why is this same pattern not only present but exaggerated in male sam…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 12:07 AM
2	What are some partner behaviors that are commonly considered cheating, but you don't (or otherwise don't mind)? I'm not arguing in bad faith. Yes, it is okay for a partner to sleep in a hotel room with a person of the opposite gender, given that there's a valid reason this is happening. If they could've easily have gotten separate rooms, but chose not to, then there would be room for concern. But there is no valid reason for my partner to be sexting someone else behind my back. This is just cheating. Texting a friend late at night isn't inherently suspicious behavior, either. That's something I do regular…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 11:57 PM
3	What are some partner behaviors that are commonly considered cheating, but you don't (or otherwise don't mind)? My definition of cheating was "getting romantically or sexually involved with someone behind my back" so the second example would be considered cheating in my eyes, and the 1st is a yellow flag and raises a lot of questions. But these are hypothetical situations so I'm not going to ask 21 questions about why they're renting a room, why so far away, and why only one room. The friendship isn't the issue at all. The issue is having a cheating a partner. A partner isn't really more or less likely to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:27 PM
27	Why do most of the women don't date younger? The average age difference is 2.2 years in America. I don't think this is a big enough gap for there to be a significant difference between who makes more money or who is more mature, so I really don't believe this as a reason. But you're right in the sense that across cultures there's none where women prefer to marry significantly younger men. Women are always married to men same age or older. But there is a cultural difference; while the average age difference is 2.2 years in America, in India…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:18 PM
2	What are some partner behaviors that are commonly considered cheating, but you don't (or otherwise don't mind)? There are people who enforce restrictions though. I've seen many people say that having friends of the opposite sex is cheating or disrespectful to the relationship. So if they get into a relationship with someone who already has opposite sex friends, the expectation is that person will stop interacting with those friends. It'd be one thing if these people just didn't date those who have friends of the opposite sex, but they never seem to do that. They always seem to think the other person shoul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:29 PM
5	"They're only being nice because they want sex" - yeah, and there is nothing wrong with that It may be a psychological need for some but it isn't for others. Humans have a psychological need for companionship and human interaction, but interestingly enough our need for sex seems to vary wildly between us. Not everyone feels a negative impact from having no sex, meanwhile social isolation absolutely will have a negative affect on someone in one way or another. There is no meaning inherent to the act of sex is what I'm talking about. Meaning as in: what does sex represent in your life? wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 07:02 PM
7	"They're only being nice because they want sex" - yeah, and there is nothing wrong with that Irrelevant. Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is a theory. It is not accepted as truth and in fact it has been contested and criticized. Sex is not a need in the same sense that food, shelter, money, and water are needs. You can live without sex, without the other four you won't live very long. Therefore it doesn't make sense to compare sex to money, or sex to food. Sex does have objective value. Most humans have a sex drive, thus there is a demand for sex and an industry to meet that demand. What I s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:32 PM
17	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men So what is it then? Are men forced into anonymous forums because the wider internet hates them, or is the wider internet accepting of their opinions? You've already contradicted your main argument.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:10 PM
1	Serial killer infatuation Him being autistic doesn't mean anything unless his autism was so severe as to inhibit his ability to reason. From what I know of him, this doesn't seem to be the case. So, yes. His autism is irrelevant when it comes to the crime he comitted, because I believe he still had the mental capacity to recognize murder is wrong. Short of blackmail or physical threat to your life, I don't really believe you can be manipulated into murdering someone else. It's not like he was asked for money or asked to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:59 PM
2	Serial killer infatuation I don't think that Gypsy-Rose was morally correct for killing her mom. Jail was a proper punishment. I also think that had I been abused for 20+ years like she was, I'd want my mom dead too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:52 PM
8	"They're only being nice because they want sex" - yeah, and there is nothing wrong with that Having sex is not a requirement to live. Money is. Sex does not intrinsically have meaning unless you're someone who seeks it for validation.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:38 PM
5	What are some partner behaviors that are commonly considered cheating, but you don't (or otherwise don't mind)? This is essentially my stance. I just... don't feel like it's cheating unless they're getting romantically or sexually involved with someone behind my back. People think they must place as many restrictions on their partner as possible as if that will stop a partner from cheating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:29 PM
11	Women on Reddit do not represent normal, every day girls and so the dialogue and “blue pill” opinions here are irrelevant to most men You absolutely could vent on Twitter (I refuse to call it X). I often see multiple tweets about the topics discussed here all the time, and they don't get taken down so I don't know what censorship you're talking about. Especially after Musk bought the platform it has actually been plagued by a lack of moderation. The people who post those kinds of tweets often get quote retweeted and dragged to hell and back, but such is the risk of posting something online. You're free to share your opinion an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 05:21 PM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing There are many men who take off their shirts when at home, and also wear shorts when at home. Hell, I've seen men walking around shirtless in public. We don't know whether her father or brother do it because we've only seen a very miniscule part of their lives in a youtube skit. So anything you argue regarding that is pure speculation on your point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:31 AM
16	What are things you hate about other women? Any woman who says "women should go back to behaving like women" (as if humanity across the globe has ever agreed on what a woman should act like) is a type of woman I find particularly annoying, especially since they typically support this idea because it's supposed to be make women more attractive to men. There is a very simple reason why I believe their line of thinking is stupid: the women who were raised to act like a women "should" where the same ones who decided that was a horrible way to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:20 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing We understand very little about the human psyche. We do not even fully understand how the brain works. But, if you're so enlightened I would love to see some studies that prove that women dress solely for the attention of men, even in the comfort of their own homes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 10:00 AM
0	What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have? This is literally why I am saying the nuclear family is bad and it is good that it's dying. A great deal of the issues with the US right now is that we are hyper-indivodualistic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:58 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing If I go to the beach I wear a swim suit that is essentially a tank top and shorts. No one in public needs to see any more of my anatomy than that. I swear people just say shit and don't even realize how much they contradict themselves She IS wearing shorts. She IS LITERALLY wearing shorts and a t-shirt. No part of her butt or breasts are exposed! The shorts are literally the most "revealing" thing she is wearing aside from the backless dress, and with the backless dress you can barely see that i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:53 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing "Impossible to me" Okay so you admit it's your own warped perceptions incapable of imagining any other reasons why women would dress the way they do. Glad we got that sorted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:38 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing How is wearing shorts and a t-shirt sexualizing herself... How is she dressing in next to nothing when the only things showing are half of her legs and half of her arms... You're the only one making it weird by thinking her brother would be made uncomfortable by her wearing shorts. The fact that you think that says so much more about you than it does about her. I'll wait for an answer but there's nothing you can say at this point to make yourself seem logical so I don't have any hope for your re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:30 AM
–	Women wearing revealing clothing in the video you linked you literally complained about the shorts she was wearing.... you are the only one thinking about sex. when a woman is going to the beach and chooses to wear a bikini because she's going to the beach, she isn't thinking about sex. the one obsessed with sex is you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:24 AM
1	What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have? Factually incorrect. The nuclear family has only very recently become a common living arrangement, partly due to industrialization. To be more specific, the nuclear family only became common in the US during 1960-1970s. The most common living arrangememt across all cultures and all time periods has been the extended family model, and wow look at that, society has still continued for all these years!	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 09:15 AM
7	Serial killer infatuation The difference is that people generally think Gypsy-Rose had reason to want her mother dead after being abused by her for 20 years. Godejohn didn't suffer the same abuse from her mother, so people are less sympathetic. It'd be hypocritical if their situations were the same and they shared the same abuser, but they didn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 06:38 AM
16	Women wearing revealing clothing Modesty really isn't serious and men don't realize that yet. Modesty has never stopped an attractive woman from getting attention, so why the fuck shouldn't she just dress how she wants to when people are going to make assumptions about her character anyways? Men are just attracted to women and some men think this is a women's problem to solve, that's essentially what a lot of this boils down to. Something something if your own eyes cause you to lust pluck them out or whatever the Bible said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 03:01 AM
9	Women wearing revealing clothing based	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:56 AM
14	Serial killer infatuation It's not really just women. The general public has a favorable view of Gypsy-Rose, mainly because her mom was incredibly abusive and most people would understand why she would want her killed. Shit, up until this thread I've never seen anyone say anything that negative about her. Also, who cares about Godejohn being autistic? That has nothing to do with him committing murder, unless you wanna believe that he was so severely autistic that he didn't understand murder is wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:44 AM
5	What do you consider cheating? Yeah, you're just fucking crazy. No reasonable person would think like this because the only possible solution to never having an emotional experience with someone other than your partner is to completely isolate yourself from the world. And Drama TV is porn?? Genuinely nuts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:31 AM
10	What do you consider cheating? If they want to cheat, they will cheat, regardless of what you "allow".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:16 AM
13	Women wearing revealing clothing her hair is far from perfect it's literally just in a messy bun?? like the videos are clearly staged but she isn't really dressed out of the ordinary or in any particular way that would make her stand out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 02:07 AM
6	What advice would you give your daughters when it comes to dating, marriage and family formation? nip that shit in the bud. tho it's gonna be hard to if his friends are also being exposed to the same bs	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:55 PM
3	What advice would you give your daughters when it comes to dating, marriage and family formation? wow this was such a nice interaction. ppd would be a lot more enjoyable if it was all like this lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:53 PM
2	What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have? This is the only comment so far I 100% agree with. There is someone out there for everyone. There are too many humans for that to ever be false. It is simply a matter of finding that person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:44 PM
2	What is a red pill and a blue pill opinion you have? The nuclear family was always a shitty concept and is one of the reasons for the atomization of US society. If feminism is destroying the nuclear family I can only see that as another win for feminism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 08:38 PM
9	“Don’t bother a woman at [location]. She’s just there to [do activity].” You have only succeeded in proving her correct. This is exactly why she said what she said.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 03:34 AM
7	Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships? 🤷you can give the advice but it's still up to them to follow it	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 03:21 AM
3	Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships? Because crossing an arbitrary milestone and becoming a legal adult does not suddenly give you the maturity of an adult. And if the people around you give a fuck about you, they will generally advise against doing things that could possibly put you in a bad position.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 03:13 AM
0	Why do many women say age gap relationships have a "power imbalance" yet say nothing about wealth gap relationships? This is called financial abuse and is the #1 reason why young women are urged to get an education and their own job and not to rely on a man for things. This is also why it's advised anyone in a relationship should have what's called an "escape fund".	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 03:09 AM
25	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? A man who is working 70 hours of week doesn't have any time for bonding or activities that would work to maintain their relationship. Hell, we can do the math and figure out just how much free time he has: There are 168 hours in a week. Let's assume the following: He wants to get 8 hours of sleep everyday He has a regular 5 day work-week. He commutes 30 mins to and from work. For 5 days of the week he is working 14 hours each day, and then spends a total of one hour traveling to and from work, s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 02:58 AM
10	What do you think is the cause for this to happen? Yeah if you're gonna behave like this as a father I can see why no one would give a shit about your side of things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 02:45 AM
19	Prenup a red flag? Idk depends. Like if you have a business or something I would understand wanting a prenup signed. I also would want a prenup signed if one of us had massive debt because I do not want to take on someone else's debt and I'm sure my theoretical fiancee wouldn't either. But it is possible that prenups can be fairly one-sided and benefit one spouse over the other, this is why you should get them reviewed by a lawyer. It's one of those things that should be actively discussed throughout a relationshi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/01/24 02:40 AM
2	Which do you feel a woman values more? So now we're assuming Guy 1 is out of her league? Why can't Guy 2 also be out of her league? All the OP said was she wants to be FWB with Guy 1 but she will not have a relationship or kids with him, and that she won't do casual sex with Guy 2 but will have a relationship and kids with him. The OP uses words like "won't" and not "would if she could". This is enough to show that she has low expectations of Guy 1 and does not value him for anything but sex. Meanwhile with Guy 2 there is the possibi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 06:03 AM
2	What are your "sexual standards" for a man? It's really not. "Vast majority" could mean anything from 99% to 90% to 85% because "vast majority" isn't a number. It's just a big majority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:40 AM
8	Love exist only when you are young Yeah, because most teenagers don't have to worry about money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:32 AM
3	Which do you feel a woman values more? You're misunderstanding. The men are the bottles of whiskey in this analogy. A cheap bottle of whiskey is one that she may still drink if she wants whiskey but she's not going to be careful with how she uses it or even if she spills it. A more expensive bottle of whiskey is going to be cherished. It's the one that going to be "saved for last." Not to say I agree- I don't think waiting makes something more special. But there are people who do. The issue here is seeing sex as the "reward" for putt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:14 AM
5	Which do you feel a woman values more? I don't think a women demanding less of a man inherently means that he is innately valued. I think it means that she doesn't expect much of him to begin with. It's like meeting strangers on a street. I don't expect much from them beyond common courtesy. However, I do expect, and therefore demand, much more from my friends. But it'd be incorrect to say that the stranger is valued more than the friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 01:01 AM
2	What made you willing to hook up? I was not disagreeing with you. I was reiterating what most men on PPD seem to think.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:43 PM
2	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” His premise makes sense: "Men and women (and generally speaking all cultures across the world) are more alike than different." I agree with this and wish more people thought like this. His conclusion: "Men/women are a monolith" is incorrect and directly contradicts his prior claim. To be a monolith means to be homogenous, singular, indistinguishable. Humans cannot simultaneously be monolithic but also different. It is one or the other. Even in the examples he gave, humans are not monolithic. Yes…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:41 PM
-1	What made you willing to hook up? If we operate under the perception of the most vocal men in PPD- men have a hard time getting hook ups so when he does get one it means he did something "right" or was attractive enough for a woman to want to sleep with him. Thus, he feels a sense of validation. I disagree with this idea though, as it has never been easier for a man to have sex than the modern day era.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 09:32 PM
1	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” Because your argument is inherently flawed. You are essentially arguing that: 1.) Women are a monolith. Despite their complexity there is only one "female behavioral function" that can be used to predict their behavior. 2.) Since they use the same "behavioral function" you could theoretically create the same female if you were able to control all the variables. I'm arguing that this is illogical, because: 1.) Nothing you have argued so far proves that this is not also true of men. 2.) You're arg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:52 PM
9	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” I think saying "we react the same way to medication" is especially funny when historically medicine was very often only tested on men because women's hormone cycles introduced "too many variables" lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:10 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Pair bonds are created through a combo of social interactions and the release of "feel-good" neurotransmitters (dopamine, oxcytocin, etc). The first thing you'd have to prove is that pair bonding occurs every time a woman has sex with a man, but not every time a man has sex with a woman. Do men not experience the release of these aforementioned neurotransmitters during sex? Is one night of sex enough to biologically form a bond with someone? The second thing you'd have to prove is that pair bond…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:07 PM
1	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” However this is not something we are capable of doing. We do not have the technology nor the understanding of the human brain that would be required to do this. So no, functionally, as in practically speaking, as in what are we practically capable of doing with modern science, it is not possible to accurately predict human behavior in relationships. It is only theoretically possible. If you are not capable of making a prediction, for whatever reason (be it lack of technology or data), it does no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:51 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Yes, a serial cheater is a red flag as thir serial nature of their cheating indicates that they are likely to cheat on you. A whore is not a red flag, because knowing that a women regularly has casual sex does not give you definitive information about that quality of that women's character beyond the fact that she has a high sociosexuality. There is some behavior that may correlate with high sociosexuality, but statistics only give you information about groups, not individuals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:44 PM
1	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” So, functionally our interactions and biology are unpredictable. Any theortical ability to predict something is immaterial if you do not actually possess the ability to predict it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:37 PM
2	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” The issue is that coins are all created the same way. Women are not. People, in general, are not. Biology ensures this by means of chromosome recombination. You're argument is "Women are predictable" because, theortically, you could create a formula that could account for all possible variables (genes at birth, mutations, nurture), a super computer could run that formula, and then you could predict the behavior of any women. The issue is that this is impossible in practice, so saying "women are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 07:35 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Except birth control is wildly accessible to women now so this social structure is inherently outdated. We do not need to completely eliminate accidental pregnancies for this to be true, for the simple fact that we will never be able to completely eliminate accidental pregnancies. Contraceptives fail for a number of reasons even when they are used perfectly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:45 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Two things wrong with this: 1.) The vast majority of people having casual sex are not going to have a reputation that would embarrass anyone. Unless you're doing something far out there like gangbangs or they're a sex worker, it's not really going to negatively impact your life. 2.) Why is this something that would be embarrassing? Is knowing that someone has sex a lot supposed to be embarrassing?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:38 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. It's very easy: observe her behavior in the present before you fully commit. If she behaves differently, she has changed. If she starts sleeping around again, then she hasn't. "Past behavior indicates future behavior" is such a silly phrase because it's so circumstantial. How far in the past are we talking? Because yeah, if someone behaves a certain way today I expect them to behave the same way tomorrow. I would not, however, expect them to behave the same way five years from now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:22 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Still a bad comparison because one of these acts is morally neutral (sex) while the other is morally wrong (murder). Actions matter. Having sex is not an action that inherently matters. In fact, how you have sex matters more than just the act of having sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:17 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Constant sex does not show a lack of discipline or composure in and of itself. What matters more is how they go about having casual sex. What type of partners are they choosing? Are they wearing protection? Do they often have sex intoxicated? These questions show more about a person's character than the fact that they have casual sex. When you tell me someone has a lot of one night stands, allthat tells me is that they have a high sociosexuality. If you tell me they have a lot of one night stand…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:13 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Is having casual sex a predictor of underlying problems, or do most people have some sort of underlying problem and some of these people just happen to have casual sex? Because I'm more willing to bet money on the latter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 06:10 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. You are not arguing in good faith. There is a big difference between a rapist and a whore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 05:55 PM
–	The Past Does Matter. Cheating, lying, and neglect are all behaviors that occur within the relationship. Someone's history (key word history) of casual sex is not occuring within the relationship. This is a very simple reason for why people say it doesn't matter, because to most people, how you act within a relationship is more important than how you act when you're single. Personally, the reason behind why someone is engaging in casual sex is more important to me and tells me more about that person's behavior and po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 05:54 PM
2	Why does it seem like progressiveness towards the gender roles only apply toward women? What an ahistorical idea of the suffrage and women's rights movements. You act as if women just politely asked to be treated as humans and got their wishes granted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 05:23 AM
1	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD "Cultish use of language" - I used the dictionary definition of "ultimately," which means "in the end" or "as the final consequence." I did not alter the meaning of the word to fit my needs. So I ask, "cultish" in what way? Because "cultish" doesn't really mean anything to me, especially when I am using and interpretating words as they are typically defined. "advocating for a nuanced approach that acknowledges how we all contribute to gender norms" - We do all contribute to gender norms. However…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 11:30 PM
3	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Ultimate benefit is not to say that men do not suffer under from gender norms. Gender norms harm everyone. Ultimate benefit means that, ultimately, gender norms benefit men more than they harm men, and gender norms harm women more than they benefit women. Naturally, this only applies to men who adhere to gender norms. If you choose not to adhere to them, you fall on the patriarchal hierarchy pretty fast. Men intrinsically know this, which is why "emasculating" is even a term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 08:25 PM
7	Do men even like women anymore? I don't think it's a strawman when you go to relationship focused subreddits like this when and the main complaint is not being able to have sex, or how women only want sex and are attracted to a subgroup of men. There are also many men in this subreddit that state the "biological imperative of men" or whatever the fuck is to have sex with as many women possible. I do not think this is true, nor do I think most men only care about being laid. But this is the picture online discussions about rela…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 04:39 AM
2	Do men even like women anymore? Here, take it up with the US Census: https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/10/more-women-in-manufacturing-jobs.html	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 04:21 AM
5	Do men even like women anymore? Even if those jobs are male dominated, the majority of men are not working those jobs. Roughly speaking, Top 5 jobs in America are retail sales people, fast food workers, cashiers, registered nurses, and customer service workers. Women make up 1/3 of the manufacturing workforce in the U.S. In general they make up 1/3 of STEM workers, and that number is only to continuing to grow. Therefore, to say that "practically everything around you was made by men" is factually incorrect. But this is a stup…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 04:08 AM
1	Do men even like women anymore? I think more men are way more homosocial than women are. As in, they desire really strong friendships and connections with other men, more than they desire this with women, even the women they are attracted to and want to have long-term relationships with. So in a way, these men like men more than they like women, they just simply like to have sex with women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 03:22 AM
4	FEMINISM WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREAD Feminism is a range of movements aimed at establishing economic, personal, and social equality between the sexes. This is one thing all feminists agree on. Beyond that? They may hold very different beliefs and ideologies. This is why any statement generalizing feminists beyond the general idea I just mentioned is non-sensical. There are radical feminists, liberal feminists, socialist feminists, marixist feminists, etc, etc. Like anything else in life, people have varying ideas about going about …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 02:16 AM
2	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? Well yeah, sometimes hand-me-downs are just making efficient use of clothing. If it's still in good condition there's no reason to throw it away. I was just assuming that if you have a family with 15 children living in poverty and working to buy the family a truck, they're not wearing hand-me-downs out of choice or for efficiancy, but because they can't afford anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 03:25 AM
7	Slutshaming is objectively good (?) Shaming only works if it's someone who cares about social pressures. If they don't, then the woman can, similarly to what you said, laugh in your face and go fuck the man she was going to fuck anyways. Also it seems as if you're ignorant of this but slutshaming is still very much a thing that happens, sluts are probably less likely to give a fuck about social pressures than the average woman. And good for them, tbh. EDIT: Also, I really don't understand where you are getting the idea that women …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 12:12 AM
3	Ladies (non-exclusively), what are your thoughts on population collapse? I don't know if you're aware of this but the vast majority of people do not want their children to grow up in poverity, wearing hand-me-downs, and being forced to be the third parent to their siblings because their own parents couldn't be responsible enough to not have kids they couldn't properly give attention to. Most decent people want their kids to have a childhood were they can actually be children and not be expected to contribute to the household by working or taking on child care respons…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:22 PM
0	For married women who have cheated on your 1st spouse but not your 2nd one, why did you not cheat on the 2nd one? Ok. Then most woman are cheaters and the answer to your entire thread is "Well, I had a male friend and I didn't want to end our friendship over some insecure guy I just started dating."	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:02 PM
–	Why do some people bend over backwards to find excuses for everything women do? This is literally where you said it. Like if someone keeps walking down dangerous alleys and landing in trouble, you cannot tell them to stop walking down dangerous alleys for that is considered victim blaming and you could get cancelled. Even though that results in the victim getting into more trouble and eventually possibly getting killed for nobody ever held them accountable for there choices. Not only is this a poor example (no one is willingly walking down an alley they know to be dangerous…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 08:37 PM
–	Submission I don't really understand what people mean by "submissive" either and reading how people describe it in this thread I don't think submissive is even the correct word for what people seem to mean. "Cooperative" makes much more sense. You should defer to whoever is more capable of handling the task, you shouldn't start needless arguments over menial things, you should value the other's opinion and hear them out even if you think they're wrong. Like, just the basics of communication really. Regardl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 07:30 PM
1	Let's have a discussion about OnlyFans/webcam girls. What are your thoughts on the matter? In the context of OF the actor is literally the producer my guy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/22 10:21 PM
1	Why do women never say "thank you" when another woman opens the door for them? ???? Is this just like, a culture thing? For reference I'm from Houston going to uni in Chicago but regardless, man or woman, if someone is behind me I'll hold the door open for them and generally people say thank you. Vice versa, I'll pretty much always say thank you because it's second nature at this point. Though I have noticed, in the area around my school at least, people don't say excuse me or thank you as much as in Houston. This is really weird.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/22 12:50 AM
2	Let's have a discussion about OnlyFans/webcam girls. What are your thoughts on the matter? Why would you pay for something that is already free? I can pirate video games for free. However, I don't, because I want to support the devs so they give me more video games. I think the logic is similar for some people who pay for onlyfans. Others do it more for parasocial type shit. What does it say about current society if OnlyFans is gaining popularity? Nothing. Prostituition has always existed. When sex work is in high demand and sex work is easy for women to get into because of technology…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/22 12:41 AM
1	How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date" No the way you type just makes you annoying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/22 10:14 PM
1	Granny admits that the biggest mistake of her life.....is getting married! Ladies, what and who needs to change, to get men and women back to committed relationships? My whole point was why take the risk of marriage when you can get the rewards without it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/22 07:56 AM
2	How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date" You seem very annoying lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/22 07:54 AM
1	Do redpill guys feel love? Doing 100% of things for someone and getting nothing back just means you're being used and you care more than the other person. This is makes sense for parents; you brought someone into the world and it is your responsibility to take care of them. They didn't ask to be born and for the first 13 or so years they are completely helpless without a parental figure. This doesn't make sense for other relationships; I am not going to give 100% of myself to someone if they're not reciprocating, whether …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/22 07:45 AM
2	Would you be bothered if your partner wouldn't have social connections? Not scary, but I'd never date anyone like that. Being someone's only source of social interaction sounds terrible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/22 09:32 PM
29	How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date" It's very interesting that so many people in this subreddit complain about the just world fallacy that blue pill supposedly uses and then in threads like this turn around and go "No, that's impossible they must be doing something wrong." The reality is you can do everything right, and still lose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/22 09:27 PM
6	Granny admits that the biggest mistake of her life.....is getting married! Ladies, what and who needs to change, to get men and women back to committed relationships? It's that women can get everything they'd find in a marriage somewhere else. As far as I'm aware, we're a lot more emotionally intimate with close friends, we're able to make our own money, if you're straight woman there is a reliable supply of sexual partners (whether or not those sexual partners are desirable though, is a completely different question.), and women can still have romantic partners without ever marrying them. Marriage isn't objectively a need anymore for a lot women, as many asp…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/22 07:06 PM
4	Is it normal for older guys to be attracted to younger women or not? The legality of the situation is a poor argument when what's actually being discussed is the morality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/22 11:11 PM
5	Is it normal for older guys to be attracted to younger women or not? Yes but we're talking about a 18-25 dating someone 40+ rather than a 18-25 year old dating someone who's 2 or 3 years away from their own age. These age gaps are in no way equivalent. No one is losing their minds over a 2-3 year age gap and implying so is a huge strawman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/22 11:08 PM
4	When you are in the talking phase with someone, should you be loyal to them? I think this is the most sensible approach to most things when it comes to relationships tbh.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/22 05:42 PM
3	When you are in the talking phase with someone, should you be loyal to them? The talking phase isn't any establishment of exclusivity. However, if Abby isn't also fucking Jack then I would assume she isn't that into him. Personally, if there's a FWB and someone who I'm in the talking phase with, then I would be fucking them both 🤷‍♀️	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/22 05:40 PM
78	The traits men want in a DAUGHTER vs WIFE It's really fucking funny that men raise the exact type of women that men don't prefer dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/22 05:35 PM
7	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women I also never know what "daddy issues" is supposed to mean? Like.. a completely absent father? A father who's there but really isn't? Just being on bad terms with your dad? I feel like most of these apply equally to men aa they do to women; having a shitty parent is a pretty common experience after all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 01:28 PM
92	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women This too. The worst warnings about men and men's behavior tend to come from... other men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 01:22 PM
57	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women The amount of times my parents told me and my older sister "He's only annoying/messing you because he likes you and doesn't know how to express it" honestly is appalling. Then people sit and wonder why women end up in abusive relationships and realize it way too late.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 11:53 AM
25	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women As someone who's neurodivergent (ADHD), people always say they'd prefer bluntness but then hate when they actually get it. Took me until highschool to realize that and I simply learned to keep my thoughts to myself. Obviously, as a consequence I was not very social as a kid lmao it was much easier if I just didn't talk to anyone than to risk upsetting them. Doesn't help that I was sarcastic and still am. I think there's times were bluntness is still warranted; everyday interactions are not those…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 11:49 AM
30	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women These 2 men are exactly identical up until the ppint one actually hurts you. Women are not mysteriously capable of realizing which man is just a little desperate and which man is actually obsessive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 11:45 AM
22	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women This would be ideal, but when women regularly see news reports of other women being killed or stalked for turning a guy down, no matter how rare the actually chances of that happening to any given women is, these occurences are going to paint women's perception of men. Especially when you very rarely hear of a women doing something like that to a man who rejected her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 11:28 AM
23	Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat women If men started puberty earlier (8-13) and it happened to men the soonest they began puberty and didn't stop for a good few decades, it'd probably be creepy to them too over a few generations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/22 11:25 AM
5	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. It's not about the legality, and generally the basis of "it's legal" is a weak argument since legality =/= morality. Whether large age gaps between older men and teenage/early 20s women are predatory is moral question of when do power imbalances become too big and potentially lead to an unhealthy or even abusive relationship. I say "become too big" because it's my belief that every relationship has some form of power imbalance no matter how small. For EX; There is a power imbalance in a relation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/22 01:31 AM
4	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. Yeah it's definitely a problem the only part I disagreed with was the idea that it was about agency and who has more/less of it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/22 01:09 AM
6	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. It's less about agency and more about modern society always depicting men as sex hungry; even in cases of clear sexual abuse because the boy was a minor you'll always get people, even men, who're saying that he was "lucky" and that "he lived every man's dream." This is something I've always seen in the comments of news articles and on twitter sometimes. So, naturally this type of thinking would carry over to young men/older women relationships. When a young woman is in a relationship with a larg…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 10:31 PM
12	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. ?? Compliant people are often the most passive people as well. Compliant people often have no sense of self direction or ability to think for themselves; you don't get to be compliant without being taught that you should always obey and never question authority. They're doormats. You'd literally be doing all the work in the relationship because they'd essentially be like a dog; completely clueless without direction. People aren't either compliant or argumentative. I don't understand why you're s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 10:13 PM
19	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. This is pretty much my understanding of it. Are all age gap relationships involing teen/early 20s partners inherently predatory? Absolutely not. Do they have a higher chance of being predatory than relationships closer in age? Abso-fucking-lutely. Hell, I know for a fact that I'm typically attracted to people who're older than me, but putting myself in that situation isn't worth the risk lmao. I'm more than ok with waiting a couple of years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 08:15 PM
4	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. You can like young, early 20s something women. You should know better than to actually try and have a relationship with them. It's not about being a "nicer person" it's about recognizing that there's an inherent, major power imbalance between someone who's just entering their 20s and someone who's 50 or 60 years old. There are power imbalances of some form in almost every relationship; some of them are just big enough to be major red flags.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 08:03 PM
15	What some women think a mature man dating a young woman looks like vs what it really is like. True, but why would he? He can have someone younger, someone more compliant, less argumentative This is the problem. This is creepy and indicative of a controlling person. Compliancy is not an ideal trait in anyone unless you're looking for someone to manipulate and have power over. You shouldn't want a doormat for a partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 07:55 PM
3	as hard as it might be, men have to make all the efforts if they want to be in a relationship. "You can put all the effort and still struggle" is literally just life in general. Dating is not special enough to be exempt from that. I will give you though that US society absolutely does put romantic partners and the idea of "finding the one" on a pedestal and it's to the benefit of absolutely nobody.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 07:50 PM
3	Speaking from personal experience, what do never married woman over the age of 34 look like? Because the cheapest food we have is also the most unhealthy food. Because we live in a car centric society + a lot of jobs nowadays are office jobs so people spend most of their time sitting down aka live sedentary lifestyles. Because most of our outdoor environments consist of ugly ass suburban sprawl, strip malls, and dangerous highways so wtf is there to even do outside that doesn't cost money. The state and culture of America inherently lends itself to people being fatter. To have any meani…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 07:37 PM
9	Speaking from personal experience, what do never married woman over the age of 34 look like? Sounds less like alpha widowed and more like traumatized by her bfs death and never got therapy for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 07:25 PM
36	So sex is seeming more and more transactional these days. Who’s to blame? Not only this, but when women say we had a bad sexual experience we usually mean we were in pain. For a guy, it usually just means he didn't orgasm. Very different experiences and it absolutely affects women's desire to engage in casual sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/22 07:16 PM
8	Dating After 30 - The Dating Flip - Does It Exist? Most men also aren't famous, rich, or notably successful...	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/22 07:01 PM
4	What is the ultimate sexual/romantic accomplishment for women? Depends on the girl? To generalize I think for a lot of women the ultimate accomplishment would be a decent husband who's a good father for her kids. I don't care for marriage abd I have never felt the desire to have kids; pretty much decided against having them since I was in middle school. So my ultimate accomplishment is far from that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 06:20 PM
8	[Q4W] In which cases do you try to set up your single guy friends with one of your single girl friends? The only time I'd do so is B. Even if he was the coolest dude in the world, if I don't think they'd work well together, I'd never recommend it. For the bonus, if we were friends it wouldn't be weird, though I would probably ask said single friend to see if she was even interested in dating before sending a guy her way. If he was a stranger I think it'd be both weird and desperate. I don't have an issue with the forwardness, though. Too many people beat around the bush.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 06:10 PM
7	Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problems Hell, sometimes the military is what causes the depression and anxiety. Giving a lot of men PTSD in the name of making them more "extroverted" sounds like a bad idea.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 05:46 PM
3	Mandatory army service for a few years would fix a lot of men's introversion problems The military isn't equivalent to the real world. Literally one of things veterans struggle with the most is adjusting to normal life after being in the military. It's one of the things as far from the real world as you can get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 05:44 PM
2	Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruel These sexless numbers have been growing ever since social media and dating apps became a thing. It's clear there's a connection. If men keep going to OLD for sex, they're going to remain sexless. The gender ratios there are incredibly skewed in women's favor and there is a lot of research showing that when men outnumber women, it only results in women being pickier. Doesn't really make sense to keep trying to succeed on OLD when you are at a severe disadvantage. This is why you see hookup cultur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 05:33 PM
2	Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruel Nah, you def bought into it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 05:20 PM
2	What about people, especially women who don't want children? Do you have access to multiple timelines?? Also relationships fall apartovertime from boredom and growing sick of each other. So there's no wayof knowing whether a relationship would've been healthier and lastlonger if they didn't have kids No, it's actually quite easy. All you'd need is a study comparing the long term happiness of couples without kids vs the long term happiness of couples with kids. We're not talking about individual relationships, we're talking in generalities. No one can say …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 09:20 PM
1	Hypergamy exists - and it will get worse But they haven't shown you what women find attractive in the typical IRL environment. They have shown you what women find attractive when they are given an endless supply of men to chose from; when a woman can have anything she wants, she becomes pickier. Sex ratios have a lot more to do with dating dynamics than anything about libidos or what people find attractive. When men outnumber women, LTRs are the norm and women are more selectice with partners. When women outnumber men, casual sex is th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 08:48 PM
2	What about people, especially women who don't want children? Idk how it's impossible to prove. Having kids puts an enormous amount of stress on even extremely healthy relationships. Not all relationships will recover from that stress. Relationships shouldn't be created for utility. That's a quick and easy way to breed resentment and bitterness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 08:31 PM
4	Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruel Eh, I disagree with equating feminism with equality. Not because I think it can't still mean that, but because what feminism has grown into now is too complicated to be reduced to such an equation. Like someone else said, there are effectively a lot of denominations of feminism and they all hate each other just like in Christianity lmao. Feminism has essentially gone through the equivalent of a protestant reformation and has split off into a lot of different ideological groups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 07:57 PM
6	Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruel I mean, the point wasn't to actually address OPs argument but to discredit it entirely because it's coming from an incredibly biased POV. But naturally you're not going to view red pill as biased because you've already bought into it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 07:52 PM
6	Women ask men to be fair while reserving themselves the right to be cruel Lmao businesses are absolutely deceptive about wanting to increase their profits. It's why they all put on the "Progressive, Pro-LGBT, Pro-BLM, etc." cap to earn brownie points and then turn around and donate to groups and politicians that go against those very same ideals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 07:49 PM
1	Birth control and Women's Preference I've only just started BC (last 4 months), but I always thought androgynous people were more attractive than anyone who leaned very heavily feminine or masculine. That's always been my ideal for a partner, at least in physical appearance. I have not noticed any change in how much I want sex or when I want to masturbate, however I have actually found it much easier to ignore those desires when they arise and now I only do it when it's something I actually want to do in that moment. To put it anot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 07:36 PM
1	Q4W: How often do you get approached and asked out in public? C.) Only because I'm counting the 1 time a creepy man in a Dollar General asked if he could be my boyfriend. I have a hard case of resting bitch face and I even had a friend that said if they hadn't met me earlier in life (we were friends since elementary school) they would be too intimated to approach me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 05:31 AM
3	Attractive men are really rare If you're using conventional western standards, yes that's the basis of deciding who's attractive and who isn't. But what you're saying about Jason Momoa is what she's saying about women in general. She is not attracted to them, but on a conventional basis she thinks more women fit the standard than men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 05:03 AM
10	Attractive men are really rare Aesthetic attraction =/= sexual attraction. Just like sexual attraction =/= romantic attraction. Regardless of sexuality all humans have the ability to tell the difference between pretty and ugly. For a further comparison, it's like how I don't like cake all that much and given a dessert I prefer I'd probably never eat cake, but I can still tell when one cake is better than the other. All they're saying is that the average woman is prettier than the average man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:59 AM
2	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? I've never seen a poll mention the phrase heteromantic. I also don't really feel like continuing this convo. If someone is a bi woman, a good 95+% of their dating pool is going to be men. In most cases, they're going to have to go out of their way in order to date a woman and humans always take the path of least resistance. It's really not that deep.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:41 AM
1	CMV: I believe lacking "Daddy vibes" (sexually) is a big reason men get cheated on / dumped, and why women gravitate away from men without that side to them "I'm not talking BDSM stuff, or that the relationship needs to have a dom/sub" Two paragraphs later: "However, I have seen enough to indicate that men who aren't willing to at least genuinely embody a leader/dominant role in the bedroom almost always end up with dissatisfied women, no matter how progressive her politics." ... So which is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:36 AM
2	CMV: I believe lacking "Daddy vibes" (sexually) is a big reason men get cheated on / dumped, and why women gravitate away from men without that side to them Ikr. Us verses are always ignored in these conversations. 😭	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:34 AM
0	CMV: I believe lacking "Daddy vibes" (sexually) is a big reason men get cheated on / dumped, and why women gravitate away from men without that side to them There is no reason why you exist. Out of all the millions of sperm that could've impregnated your mother, by sheer luck it happened to be you. The universe is chaotic, so live life the way you want to, without remorse and stop trying to justify your existence with some greater purpose.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:30 AM
1	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? This has little to do with what the opposite sex offers and more to do with statistics. Only roughly 8% of the US population is LGBT, more than half of that percentage are people who identify as bisexual, and women are more likely to identify as bisexual than men. By this alone if you are a bi person living in America you are much more likely to come across someone of the opposite sex who is willing to date you than you are to come across a someone of the same-sex willing to date you. This is no…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 04:07 AM
7	what truly dictates promiscuity ? No, because those promiscuous women apparently aren't fucking them, they're fucking Chad. So if they ever get to have sex with a promiscuous woman, they're just bitter and resentful because Chad got them first and didn't have to try. Or something like that, it's hard to keep track of what they say because they change the script so often.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 05:51 PM
0	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? Now that doesn't make sense to me, because with that logic all relationships are just long-term FWBs and all FWBs might as well be relationships, but there is undeniably a difference between a FWB and a romantic relationship. I can offer sex to anyone I find physically attractive; it does not make the relationship between us special nor does it indicate that there is something special about them. I cannot, however, offer just anyone romantic attraction, and that is the basis of a relationship. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 04:07 PM
3	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? To your first point, that is not true. I view same sex relationships as equivalent, just not the sex. I take gay/lesbian married couples just as serious as I take straight married couples. You'd be the first to say this because I've had this convo several times and I've only had people double down to say something along the lines of "Yes, straight couples are inherently to superior same sex ones" or "Same sex couples aren't legit to begin with so there's nothing to be jealous of." Someone in thi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 03:04 AM
1	Why are you here? I think lesbian life is interesting because you immediately notice all the dumb social rituals and expectations that come with dating in heterosexual culture. I do think that's where the UHaul lesbian joke comes from; things may tend to move faster because there's less pretense about what people want out of the relationship. It's harder because there is no script to follow (even if social scripts are stupid and often ineffective they still give you something to work off of) and also if you're un…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 02:43 AM
1	Does unconditional love truly exist? I think unconditional love is unhealthy. There should be boundaries aka things that your partner cannot do or else you will end the relationship and revoke your love. I think caring about someone can be somewhat unconditional. There are a lot of shitty people I've met who've done shitty things to me and I still don't want any harm to come to them and I still wouldn't harm them in anyway unless they threatened my life/someone else's life. But I'm just not a vengeful person.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 02:30 AM
9	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? The reason why I personally find it stupid to not be as concerned about someone cheating with the same sex as you would be as the opposite is because it is 1.) inherently an acknowledgment that you do not find those relationships equivalent and 2.) opening up the possibility of a partner taking that as a go ahead to cheat on you because "it's not as serious." You are allowing your partner to completely undermine your relationship; that is being the ultimate cuck but you're not even getting any s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 02:05 AM
5	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? Dude thinks a woman is still a virgin if she has sex with another woman 🤣 The depth of stupidity on this subreddit never fails to amuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 01:58 AM
1	Do you think men or women are more open minded? There are bad ideas on both sides but only one side has people who stormed the capital with the intent to steal an election, and only one side continues to support a president who is under investigation for possibly violating the Espionage Act; not to say that that act hasn't been abused in the past, but we are far past the moral panic of the red scare. Only one side had supporters who, in response to this, went and shot at FBI agents and stood outside of FBI offices with guns. Both sides suck b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 11:35 PM
1	What is the most intimate way someone can show you they care? B. Woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 11:15 PM
1	Why are you here? Yeah this reddit is very toxic and I am here to laugh at people willingly rotting in their own toxicity because it makes them feel better about life. When so many here can't even be bothered to help themselves it's hard to truly feel sorry for them. If anything it's just frustrating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 11:03 PM
-1	How many of you have DNA tested your child, do you plan on it if you have kids? The checking should happen long before you ever consider having kids with someone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 11:02 PM
4	Why are you here? It's funny. None of this applies to me because I'm a lesbian so I'm literally just here to point and laugh and occasionally I post if I see something particularly stupid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 05:25 AM
3	How many of you have DNA tested your child, do you plan on it if you have kids? If a man planned to do this he clearly doesn't trust any potential partner enough to not cheat on him and yet he decided to have kids with them anyway. It's kinda wack, yeah. EDIT: It also doesn't mean she didn't cheat. Easily could use protection and still go ahead and do it anyways 🤔	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/08/22 02:05 AM
15	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men Actually I've seen a lot of this too? It certainly isn't helped by the existence of political lesbians. EDIT: Honestly, when a man is dating or having sex with anyone it is eventually just viewed as him "following his instincts" or whatever bullshit. But, whether a woman is straight or not, her actions in choosing a partner are always viewed as having some underlying ulterior motive. I guess it's just a consequence of the classic "all women are lying bitches" form of misogyny that still seems to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 02:13 PM
15	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men Apparently we're all fucking each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 02:11 PM
0	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men They don't avoid bi men though, they just avoid relationships with them. I avoided relationships with any woman with a high body count, does that make me high body count phobic? You can interact with someone and still be sexist, racist, homophobic, etc. I don't know why this is even a question, and frankly this discussion is pointless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 02:01 PM
9	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men When you consider that bi women often end up in LTR relationship with men (something like 80 or 90%+ of bi women), there are vanishingly few women you're actually competing with. Note that this also changes depending on if you live in a more liberal vs conservative area. So my answer is it either has no effect on the loneliness of men or the effect it has isn't statistically significant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:53 PM
0	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men ???? This liteally doesn't make sense. If your insecurity leads to fearing, avoiding (ya know, like avoiding relationships with bi people), or hatred, then yes it can result in a phobia. Just because insecurity =/= phobia, does not mean insecurity cannot lead to a phobia. Someone can have a phobia when it comes to public speaking because they're afraid they'll embarass themselves. Their insecurity about their ability to perform underpressure leads to fear and aversion aka a phobia.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:39 PM
0	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men That's not their assumption though. It's their own insecurities about their own self worth that's the issue, along with "what if he's really gay". Their insecurities lead them to that assumption; it's the unspoken part of the equation. They're unwilling to date bi people because they're worried that bi person has options that don't include them, completely ignorant to the fact that this same line of thinking can be applied to anyone. When they're only applying it to bi people, it is biphobia. Le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:32 PM
10	The concept of "the bar is in hell" is a psychological prison for men. When it comes to men straight women are actually attracted to? Yes, the bar is in hell. The "men straight women are attracted to" part should be a given anytime women say something about the behavior of a hypothetical partner. When a woman says that she is absolutely not imagining a relationship with a man she thinks is ugly and I don't know why people keep interpretating it as "The bar is in hell (for every man). So long as you're not given off major red flags early on in the relationahip and a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:19 PM
4	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men Assuming that a bi person is more likely to cheat just because they have more options is biphobic, even if that biphobia is coming from a place of insecurity. According to this subreddit men have shit/no options in dating but despite this a lot of men cheat on their partners anyways. It has nothing to do with how many options someone has, just that the person is a shitty cheater.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:07 PM
1	homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in men Being accepted just because people sexualize your relationship isn't actually being accepted. The consesequence of this is that relationships between a woman are not taken as seriously as relationships between a man and a woman or relationships between a man and a man. Woman/woman relationships are still very much viewed as a phase. The other consequence of this is that there are a lot of men that think they can "fuck a lesbian straight" as if that's how sexuality works. And yet you do not see t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/22 01:04 PM
1	do women envy men in dating? Yeah that's true. TBH the idea that LGBT people come in packs is very much true we just end up in the same friend groups even if we don't know our other friends are queer. That's what happened to me in highschool and that's exactly what's happening in college. There's like 1 straight girl in my current friend group, the other 5 are bi/gay (not including myself). Most of the straight people in the group are men lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 03:33 AM
4	Do men in general envy women? I'm not even gonna address the middle east comment because to say women have anything worth envying there is incredibly ignorant. If China truly didn't kill female babies anymore for 30 years then why are the gender ratios in their country still fucked? In 2020, fifteen to twenty-year olds had the largest gender disparity of 116.1 males to every 100 females, meaning there are 35 million more men in their country than women. They have the worlds most skewed sex ratio.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 01:16 AM
2	do women envy men in dating? Men don’t have to worry about date rape drugs or not being believed if they are sexually assaulted. This is just not true. Men get a lot of shit for being the victims of sexual assault. Tbh society is shitty towards sexual assault victims in general because it largely doesn't recognize the multitude of forms sexual assault and abuse can take. Both genders are shamed for it, it's just that if you're a woman it's assumed you're weak and passive so the message is "you should've chose/known better,"…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 01:10 AM
5	do women envy men in dating? Idk, even with those negatives I still prefer being a woman. Women in the US and some other western countries are comparatively more free from the restrictiveness of gender roles than men are. I'd take physical risks if it means I'll have that. Plus, a gun is a great equalizer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 01:04 AM
3	do women envy men in dating? No they don't. The predatory lesbian is a stereotype that still very much exists. Lesbians are often inclined to completely sanitize themselves and erase any expression of the sexual desire they have for women. It's respectability politics, really.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 12:58 AM
9	do women envy men in dating? Yeah like the person who replied said, it's a numbers thing. There are just statistically more women interested in men than there are women interested in dating other women. Even less so, if you consider how many women actually feel safe dating another women. If you don't live in a liberal area you risk a lot of confrontations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/22 12:55 AM
17	do women envy men in dating? I imagine a straight man still probably has more dating options than a lesbian, but even then I don't envy them. Hetero dating culture just seems awful in general and I want nothing to do with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 11:18 PM
5	Porn Use Bad for Men; Good for Women I mean, if you're watching porn you're looking for someone to be sexualized in one way or another, regardless of if you're a man or woman. Sexualization isn't inherently bad, there's just appropriate and inappropriate contexts for it. The reason women complain about it is because it happens 24/7 and often from the time we start puberty, which can be as young as 8 years old. I think few people would complain about being sexualized, ya know, in the context of having sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 10:40 PM
0	Which gender role is easiest to fill? You're incredibly ignorant and uneducated if you think the suffrage movement was just women going "Can we plz have the right to vote??" and batting their eyelashes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 10:26 PM
51	Which gender role is easiest to fill? It's easy for both genders if that's the type of person you are and your sexuality fits the mold. You don't have to think, don't have to question anything that society tells you, you just do as you're expected. If you're anything else, any type of divergence in sexual disposition or sexuality, any type of divergence in thought? Good luck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 03:35 PM
17	Do men in general envy women? You have to be insane to think it's worth being a woman anywhere but in the west/more western countries lmao. Yeah, lets go to China where they kill or abandon their female babies because they want male heirs. Or to some middle eastern countries where you can't go outside without a male escort and you risk being the victim of an honor killing. It only become worth being a woman in the west very recently in the history of civilization. Y'all are legitmately brainwashed. The grass is always greene…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 03:29 PM
10	Do men in general envy women? Yeah if it was just physical pain it'd be worth it. Unfortunately pregnancy completely changes a woman's body and mind. It's never the same afterward. Assuming you survive it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 03:25 PM
8	Porn Use Bad for Men; Good for Women Yeah I think the worse effect of porn has to do with the expectations it creates in men and tbh people who have poor sex education in general. It would be helpful for everyone to be taught that porn is a performance and is often just as unrealistic as a Marvel movie.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 03:19 PM
13	Porn Use Bad for Men; Good for Women I've seem so much conflicting data on porn use that at this point I'm fairly confident that the affects have more to do with the person watching it than the porn itself. EX; There was one study I read where watching violent porn didn't correlate with increased sexual violence in men unless that person was already inclined to antisocial behavior and was already violent. It was something like 7% of men showed increasd violence and the other 93% didn't. What is undeniable is that sex education in t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 03:17 PM
6	Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences? Thanks for bringing this up because things like gender ratios are so often ignored in these discussions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 05:03 AM
4	Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences? I just don't like the hypocrisy. That's my main issue with it. I also tend to resist bioessentialist arguments to begin; there is so much evidence to support that the environment that you grow up in changes gene expression, so anything saying "this is just how men/women are" seems very ignorant to me. It's not a question of nature or nuture when they often work together and influence each other. I do not think casual sex is an inherently good thing to pursue, and like anything else you choose to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 04:53 AM
2	Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive? What about them? Do you want to be those people?? Because those relationships don't exactly seem health nor stable to me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 12:38 AM
1	Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive? OK. But what are they saying the want men to be? In what context do they want men to "be" these things in? Are different types of women looking for the same thing in men across the board? Because I thought it was pretty much established that the woman/man you're willing to have a ONS with is very different from the woman/man you're willing to marry, so naturally people want different things for different contexts. Both genders have their idea of ONS material and they have their idea of husband/w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/22 12:34 AM
2	Thoughts on stay at home dads? It's interesting that there are women who would prefer the US system. Shit, I'm from the US and I also think it's a cruel thing to do to women, but it might have to do with the US's general lack of healthcare for mothers (our maternal mortality rate is pretty indicative of that) that make it that much harder to go back to work after you've given birth. I know so many pregnancy horror stories just in my own family. Even if I wanted kids, that'd put me off from having them for sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/22 08:59 PM
2	The importance of male look shouldn’t be a topic of controversy. His answer was very clear; you can't fix those things (caveat: without a lot of money for plastic surgery or something), so focus on the things you can fix.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/22 08:24 PM
5	Would you rather have a loving husband? Or guaranted 2,000 USD a month for the next 18 years? I'm a lesbian so the money lmao. EZ answer. Also don't believe in marriage so that makes this even easier. An extra untaxed 24k a year would be hella nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/22 07:51 PM
7	Women control how men act in dating Not treating children like the massive responsibility that they are is exactly how you end up with fucked up children. It's not an undertaking for the man because historically men were not expected to be heavily involved in the process of childrearing, and they still aren't. The deadbeat dad is a stereotype for a reason.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/22 02:24 AM
1	Why is a woman with a healthy weight considered premium luxury level just for that? The best of the best? There's a lot going on here: 1.) BMI is not an indicator of health. You can get labelled as obese just from having a lot of muscle mass because fat and muscle weigh the same. A better measure of health would be body fat percentage. Women on average have more body fat than men, so the best body fat percentage for a woman is going to be higher than the best body fat percentage for a man. This is something that BMI also fails to take into account. So what is a "healthy weight" is a lot more nuanced…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 08:03 PM
5	How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%? This is why I'm generally confused about most of the RP guys on here. They claim to be RP, but when I first found this subreddit I googled RP and honestly there was little that I disagreed with (mostly the bioessentialist stuff, but I don't know if that's really old RP or if that's the "incel" jargon you're talking about). I thought it was great that there was something advocating for men to decentralize women in their lives and work to improve themselves for their own benefit. This is exactly w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 07:45 PM
1	Women control how men act in dating I bring up abuse not just to have something to say, but because your comments are very unclear and you are seemingly contradicting yourself. For example, in your first reply you say this: I don't blame women for getting raped nor abused women for getting abused, nor men for not fighting back against thier abusers. But then in the same comment you go on to say this: People have a choice in this matter, to convey how your comparrison doesn't hold up the same train of thought applies to a people pl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 07:36 PM
3	Women control how men act in dating Yeah, this makes sense if you don't understand how abuse works and how it quite literally leads to be people questioning their own thoughts and reality. I have a friend and he legitimately could not admit that his other friend was an emotionally abusive piece of shit until he went through 3 years of therapy. For reference, this abusive POS had a lot of personal leverage over him and they had known each other for like a decade. The reality is that being in an abusive relationship, romantic or pla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 07:09 PM
29	I wonder if having higher standards leads to having a partner which is less likely to be sexually satisfied than you. This is honestly what I think about everytime someone quotes the "women intiate the majority of the divorces" as some way to prove women are the reason for failed marriages. The reality is if your marriage is fucked and you wait for the man to intiate the process, it's never going to happen or it'll happen years from now. 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 06:12 AM
0	Can someone explain men who criticise women who sleep around while also being angry they’re not having sex No, trad means waiting for marriage. If you're fucking before then, for any reason, no matter how many people, then it's not trad. Vast majority of people aren't trad anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 05:12 AM
13	Can someone explain men who criticise women who sleep around while also being angry they’re not having sex This is why women (and everyone, tbh) should just do what they want. Someone out there will hate your guts just for existing, so just say fuck it and live how you want to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 04:53 AM
1	How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men? Ok then Im guessing you’re quite more attractive than your partner and have no worry of him leaving you. Then I don't understand because your previous comment implies that "the fear of being left" is definitely a factor. No one caused this misconception but you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/22 05:40 PM
3	How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men? This is genuinely just insecurity. Acknowledging the attractiveness of other people does not imply anything else beyond that. If you trust your partner, there is no worry about them leaving you. That's the whole point of monogamy; despite the possibilities of having a "better" or more "attractive" partner, you are choosing to be with this one person and only this one person, regardless of anything else you might feel. If such a simple act is able to threaten a relationship then monogamy really a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/22 04:24 AM
8	How common is it for women to settle down with dorky/unattractive men while fantasizing for more masculine, attractive men? If you are ever willing to consider cheating that says a lot more about you than anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/22 04:19 AM
17	The Rise of The Single Lonely Male The solution is that women should go to therapy, not just men. Why is it that men have to fix the issues society has pushed upon them and not women? This is funny as hell considering women are a lot more likely to seek help for mental health than men ever were lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/22 12:48 AM
1	Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative) I mean, yeah. I think you're assuming I'm red pill, and that's why I'm confused. I'm very much not red pill. I just think most people have better things to do than to rant on the internet.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 11:49 PM
1	Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative) I'm genuinely confused on where this is coming from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 07:50 PM
2	Why do some men seem to think cheating is worse if it's the woman cheating? Oh you're absolutely right! Which is why I think the only way you can genuinely think one is worse than the other is if you're really trying hard not to consider it from the other side.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 05:44 PM
2	Why do some men seem to think cheating is worse if it's the woman cheating? The two justifications I see are 1. paternity fraud and 2. men cheat for sex / women cheat based on emotions. 1 is somewhat understandable, if you have no reason to suspect your wife is cheating you have no reason to consider a paternity test. I can understand the fear of having a relationship and family with a woman only to find out the kids aren't yours and she's lied to you for years. I still think it happens a lot less than people on this reddit make it out to be, but there you go. I can als…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 05:15 PM
6	Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative) I think this is why I'm so confused on this reddit when people say 20s is when women are all young and attractive when as a black person I know women who still look like they're in their 20s well into their 40s. But yeah, if you assume everyone is talking about the average white woman then I guess I could see why people would say that lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 12:30 PM
8	Why does it seem when Western women reach their 30s their expectations get higher(not lower) whenever they are met or not that’s a different story? (Challenging the wall narrative) This. Your average single woman in her 30s isn't going on the internet to go on rants and generally just make an ass of themselves. It takes a special type of person to even think of doing that, and that's probably why they're single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/22 12:19 PM
3	Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why? Yes, most women are taught that men are potential threats. Both their mothers and fathers echo this message constantly when their daughters are young and dating. And statistically, they aren't wrong. Once you're in a romantic relationship with a man he is more likely to be a threat to you than a male stranger on the street.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 11:16 PM
1	Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why? This. If someone else is willing to do the work, most people wouldn't bother to help out. I wouldn't call it lazy, as laziness implies that there's work to be done and you simply can't get up to do it. If someone else is taking up that work, then why bother? You see this with men too because both men and women default to the idea that the woman does the child raising, no matter the situation. In dating, the only way to change the status quo is to simply refuse to do the work if the other parter …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 11:14 PM
2	Do you think modern dating is fair for men? Why? Yeah and when that mate turned out to be an abusive POS she was told to bear with it because that's what a good wife does and divorce definitely wasn't an option either. It wasn't about choosing a "good" man. Love was not a required factor in marriages until around the 1900s. Before that you married primarily for social status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 11:05 PM
1	Is sex inherently degrading for women? So you had sex with a moderately kinky girl when you weren't being kinky thus non-kinky sex is inherently boring? Nah, you were just having sex with an incompatible person until you changed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 02:47 PM
1	Is sex inherently degrading for women? I do hope that you realize this "penetration is an act of dominance and being penetrated is an act of submission" line of thought is also part of the line of thought that leads to many people thinking men cannot be sexually abused by women. After all, if the one doing the penetration is inherently in a position of dominance, then how could they be abused?	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 02:44 PM
11	What’s the best size? Full length of dildo =/= Insertable length	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 02:27 PM
5	CMV: Men who want practical dating advice from women should listen to women who date both women and men. I don't understand why homosexuals/bisexuals even frequent this subreddit. It's primarily the dynamic between heterosexual men and women that's being discussed, a completely different world. At best, a bisexual woman operates from a blue pill perception when dating another woman. Because it's funny watching straight people argue. Tbh I feel bad for straight men and straight women; both only have the option of dating a group which is so full of resentment for the opposite gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/22 04:02 PM
6	If women generally want the best guys, they should be more willing to accept them having multiple wives The big deal is that most people are monogamous.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/22 06:24 PM
2	Do you enjoy pegging or any other sexually dominant sex with a man? Or do you only do it because it's what gets him off and you just go with it? I... genuinely don't understand what this is supposed to mean??	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/22 06:15 PM
6	Do you enjoy pegging or any other sexually dominant sex with a man? Or do you only do it because it's what gets him off and you just go with it? I mean, it's valid to be disgusted by it. Connecting it to being a symptom of watching porn isn't valid, and most of the surprise is because of this assumption. Men literally have a functional equivalent of a "g-spot" that can be stimulated through anal, and I'm pretty sure this was known far before porn became widespread. You can find it gross all you want but in terms of kinks it's one of the few that make practical sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/22 07:44 AM
2	The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western culture Ok, so being treated as a literal object to be won isn't dehumanzing. I understand.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/22 03:08 PM
7	The fact that in almost any discussion about dating there is an overriding implication that women are the prize and men are lucky to win them suggests women are superior to men and is symptomatic of the misandry and gynocentric sentiment that is rampant in western culture I mean, I agree that putting women on the pedestal is bad. I also agree that men need to stop making the idea of getting a women the sole center and focus of all their lives decisions. I do not agree that is a symptom of misandry. I think it's a lot more complicated than that. Treating someone as an idol to worship is just as dehumanizing as treating them like gutter trash. And when they inevitably fuck up hard enough to fall off of that pedestal (because they're humans and humans are known to f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/22 02:36 PM
13	Do women ever think that the high value dude they are going for can pretty much leave at any point for someone better? A relationship can end at anytime, either because someone chose to end it or because of outside circumstances. Anyone who pretends otherwise are people that act like they're "safe" in their relationship, and that's personally why I think a lot of relationships fail. After the honeymoon phase no more effort is put in and it falls apart. I think this especially happens in marriage because marriage is seen as the "end goal" of every romantic relationship. That's why I believe love is a choice, rath…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/22 01:46 PM
3	How TikTok algorithm confirms Blue Pill beliefs This is what I really don't get. Some people on this sub claim that women have heightened expectations of men because of social media/media in general. But women on social media look nothing 99% of women IRL so why is it that they're somehow immune to seeing these women and their expectations for women are still reasonable. There really is an over-saturation of beauty on social media that society suffers from as a whole, especially since a lot of this beauty is artificial and achieved through fi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/22 01:29 PM
2	How TikTok algorithm confirms Blue Pill beliefs This is why the only social media I use are tumblr + twitter, sometimes reddit, and I guess discord and youtube if you wanna count those as social media. I will never in my life touch Instagram or TikTok with a ten foot poll, especially not fucking TikTok.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/22 01:21 PM
1	Fetishes play a negative role in society. Speak for yourself. MMA seems pretty wrong to me, tbh. Unlike other sports, MMA seems like the modern-day version of what the ancient Romans did in their own public displays of extreme violence. This ignores what I said about other sports like football. Even those sports run a risk of traumatic brain injury and yet they are considered completely acceptable in society. There are multiple studies that show that often frequent head injures in football lead to chronic brain disease, and in general t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 04:10 AM
7	Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies? Men perform poorly when in same-gender schools, while women perform even better when in same-gender schools. This is the closest real-life example we have of a monogender social environment, so it's reasonable to extrapolate from this and say that men would be doing even worse than they are now and women would be thriving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 02:55 AM
1	How hard is it actually for you to reach orgasm? Lmao that'd probably speed it up but the idea of doing that and then sleeping with the same pillow is the only thing stopping me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 02:18 AM
38	So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection? I agree with this. I don't think there needs to be a solution, just an acknowledgement that it happens. That being said, a lot of men on this sub do insist that women or society at large has to solve the problem or "else." Whatever that else is, the implication is that something bad will happen if men don't get relationships/sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 02:15 AM
14	Females being coddled is worse for both genders in the SMP I'm not exactly going to trust a video that 1.) is based off a reddit experiment and not an actual study, 2.) is posted on a youtube channel that has other videos with thumbnails such as "Illegals storm the border," "Joe Biden laughs at the poor," and "US faces total collapse," which just screams someone who's a reactionary, 3.) also features an article written by Gerard Baker, who also claimed that Joe Biden would force Trump supporters into "re-program camps." This is the literal definition of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:53 AM
2	How hard is it actually for you to reach orgasm? Lol. But honestly it's hard to really get a specific time down. Sometimes it feels like it took a while but in reality only 20 mins have passed, other times I don't orgasm at all and I'm just masturbating to kill time. I think it varies so much for women that the answer to the question changes depending on the mood, stress and general mindset so do not take my answers as hard evidence since I'm probably overestimating. Time perception is wacky. As my other posts would indicate I haven't really e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:43 AM
-2	How hard is it actually for you to reach orgasm? Well yeah, I'm not a dude lmao. That's just solo masturbation though I haven't had sex so I have no idea what oral or anything else would do for me. Also don't know what fingering or direct clitoral stimulation would do like I said I don't like to use my hands. I also don't like to use toys, but those would probably speed up the process. When there are women who've never experienced orgasms and some women who need to be in the most relaxed, safest mindset possible in order to orgasm, I think I'm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:29 AM
1	How hard is it actually for you to reach orgasm? It's not hard at all. Clitoral stimulation it takes me 30-45 mins if I'm already aroused. Up to an hour and a half if I gotta get worked up. I don't tend to like using my hands so I just grind. I think I'm definitely on the more sensitive end of the spectrum considering the first orgasm I had was pretty frictionless and was just from visual stimulation. First time I tried penetration was pretty fucking disappointing in comparison to that because it didn't feel like anything. But I also haven't e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:23 AM
1	Fetishes play a negative role in society. 1.) Fetishes =/= Kink 2.) Kinks and fetishes are a natural part of human sexuality. You're never going to reduce the number of them in the population. 3.) Whether a kink or fetish is harmful is entirely up to the people involved. If they're not forcing someone to engage in their kink or fetish, idgaf. So what if they're "unhealthy"? You could argue that humans do "unhealthy" shit all the time (drinking, smoking, playing football and risking brain damage, eating fast food, eating sugar, eating re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 01:13 AM
1	Fetishes play a negative role in society. I find this obsession with people that have violent kinks interesting. We have no problem with other kinds of consensual violence in our society, even when sports like MMA, boxing, even football to an extent are more likely to get you killed or have you suffer from serious brain damage than BDSM ever will. Is the aversion just because BDSM sometimes involves a man hitting a woman, and we have such a strong social conditioning against that, thus something must be wrong with the man and the woman …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 12:26 AM
1	Q4W: Is marriage still the dream? E. I never cared for marriage and I always thought it was an outdated institution. It never made sense to tie myself down to someone when the only thing constant about people is that they will invariably change, and there are some changes that cannot be worked around. Love is a choice and there are many situations where making that choice is not going to be the best decision for you or your partner. It's funny because I would label myself a romantic, but I suppose I'm just not a hopeless or idea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 04:16 PM
3	What common takes from women do you disagree with? Any take that implies that they are better than another woman because you don't do such and such behavior. There is nothing that makes you implicitly better than anyone else, to say otherwise is arrogance. Any take that says that any choice a woman takes is a feminist action so long as she does it "for herself". Feminism is a social theory, thus not every act you take will be a feminist act no matter the reasons behind it. This isn't bad, nor something to be ashamed about; humans often to do not…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 04:04 PM
1	Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problems Yeah, I've learned of so many supposed "biological facts" on this sub and the bio essentialism is unreal. Idk how younger is skews though because I'm 19 going on 20 and I've never met any well-liked man who acts like what they proclaim is the best way to be successful in dating. Though I have always hung around the more bookish, actually-gives-a-fuck school types so that definitely has some influence on what I see when it comes to dating. But idk I'd probably just get shot down for using anecdot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 03:33 PM
0	What common takes from women do you disagree with? I would agree that it is not a choice. I genuinely do not think most people understand weight or eating habits at all- case in point that you can be overweight and also be anorexic, but most people dont't understand eating disorders enough to even conceptualize of such a thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 03:18 PM
3	Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problems It's always so interesting to come to this subreddit and see TRP dudebros depict men in just the worst light ever and then turn around and complain about misandry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 02:46 PM
11	Are some males infatilized/desexualized because they look childish? When society (at least in the US) has this weird obsession with conditioning women to literally strip every inch of naturally growing bodyhair off of themselves just to look younger it is 100% a fetish. It has nothing to do with biology unless you wanna claim that pedophilia isn't a psychological abnormality. Not to claim that any woman who shaves/anyone who likes shaved women = pedophile, but clearly you can see how this line of thinking implies that pedophilia too is just a consequence of evol…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 02:36 PM
5	Why this misconception that less attractive men will treat women better? Wild to even read something like this. Confidence isn't like some physical, immutable trait; it's a mindset and mindsets are not stagnate, thus they can be learned if it's not something you've already developed. If you're someone who's had life go your way ever time, you're probably a lot more confident than someone else who's gotten the shit kicked out of them by the universe. That's all to say that confidence is not static and can change with effort and the things you experience in life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 05:38 AM
13	Do women have any logical reasoning behind who they fuck? That's true. Alcohol is in fact a major component in a lot of hook-ups. It's just another reason why college campuses are drenched in hook-up culture. If a group of people is drinking less on average, I would also assume they'd be having less hook-ups on average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 04:41 AM
13	It is unwise for men to be emotionally invested in a woman for the first few months to a year of dating In a world were women no longer need to rely on men, and you guys already believe that she has more options than you ever will, how does this accomplish anything but getting your ass dumped as soon as possible. This is illogical; she's not gonna realize you're "testing her," it's likely that she'll realize that you're not investing emotionally in the relationship, and regardless of if she likes you or not she's just gonna leave. Doesn't make sense for her to try if you're not trying. If you're a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 07:09 PM
3	Swinging? Would you or wouldn’t you and why? Is there a gendered component to this? I wouldn't. I'm poly but not interested in open relationships or casual sex, but I have no issues with it beyond that. Good for people who enjoy it. I think open relationships can work if you go into the relationship understanding it'll be open, but all too often people open their relationships to save them. In those cases it's always someone who wants it more than the other person, and it just breeds a lot of resentment. If you have to open your relationship in an attempt to save it, then the r…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 06:23 PM
2	As a man, I'm super envious of attractive, healthy women. How common and justified do you think this feeling is? bell hooks is popular among feminists who 1.) care about intersectionality 2.) actually read feminist literature, specifically feminist literature by racial minorities as their experience as women is very different from white women (in the U.S. at least). This is all to say that you're probably right than many people who self-id as feminists have never even heard of bell hooks. Most people who call themselves feminists aren't reading the literature because as a society we've completely dropped t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 04:00 PM
14	How are men supposed to treat women as equals? It's like fucking clockwork that a man will post a thread here like "I tried so hard to be a good person and women still won't date me :(" and then you talk to them for like 10 mins and they say the most psychopathic shit ever. Jesus christ. This is embodiment of the Nice Guy TM. Just a complete lack of self awareness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 03:31 AM
39	How are men supposed to treat women as equals? So you admit you never wanted commitment in the first place, got into a relationship with a woman you weren't actually interested in dating and in your own words manipulated her for sex, got mad at her when she finally got her shit together and realized she had attachment issues, not to mention deliberately trying to sabotage her recovery, and now are on here complaining about women's nature and how stupid it is for men to not be misogynists?? Yeah. You have issues. Wild how people always try to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 03:00 AM
21	How are men supposed to treat women as equals? Assuming every thing you said is true; you have no justification for being upset. How are you going to be mad at women themselves, as you put it, are just behaving as nature intended? This doesn't even touch on how race, neurodivergence or disability might affect a womens dating prospects, but lets just stick with the most average idea of an American woman. It's the same situation as being a kid and being born into poverty but another kid got born wealth. It fucking sucks and looks unfair on the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 02:56 AM
2	CMV The sexual double standard (Guys getting girls = studs/Girls getting guys = sluts) is as natural as women who can't grow beards wanting men with beards This highlights one of my major issues with evolutionary biology/psychology. It's just like statistics -- you can take the end result (the data/the observed behavior) and come up with whatever narrative you want to support your findings. It's too flimsy to stand on its own, especially in examples like you give where we have societies that directly contradict the proposed narrative. I honestly think this subreddit could benefit a lot of from learning about epigenetics; there's too many claims tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/22 02:26 PM
2	How can I approach a girl I find really cute without making it awkward ? It’s the very definition of colorblindness, treating people as individuals and not based on something arbitrary as skin color. In theory, yes. In practice, colorblindness leads to ignoring that there are in fact different experiences between those who share a different skin color. Colorblindness is what led to laws like "separate, but equal" being passed, because it ignored the lived reality of people who weren't white. Colorblindness ignores the reality of the fact that in are still sundown tow…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/07/22 04:27 AM
2	How can I approach a girl I find really cute without making it awkward ? I'm black, 19yr and from Houston; my first thing is yes, definitely take race into account, specifically; How would your friends and family react to you dating this girl? It's easy to think the best about those close to us but it's better to be honest with yourself here. If you think they might react badly, that's not to say don't go for it, but at least you know what you're getting into. I have never dated so I'm not going to try to give you advice on how to approach. I just know that generally…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/22 04:45 AM
3	Q4All how do you define virginity? Except it's very common that a women's hymen never breaks. Myths about hymens are the most pervasive; very rarely does a women's hymen "break" because it's tissue that's part of her vagina. This also means that hymens come in all shapes in sizes; almost all hymens have some type of opening so that period blood can get through (otherwise it would stay in the vagina, and this is a health issue that some women experience), some hymens are naturally more open than others, some people barely have hym…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/22 09:24 AM
3	Q4All how do you define virginity? This is hilarious to read given that some women's hymen can be stretched and not actually broken during sex. 🤣 People are fucking crazy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/22 08:25 AM
5	For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partners Okay, for the sake of the argument we're just gonna completely ignore correlation =/= causation. If the claim is that "Multiple partners damages your ability to pair-bond" then there should be a direct positive correlation between number of partners and chance of divorce. But there isn't. In fact from your second source, besides being a virgin or only having 1 past partner, your best chances are if you've had 4-5 partners. Again, you completely ignore what your own sources are saying and then ex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/22 03:43 AM
10	For those who hook up/have casual sex often with different partners Was gonna comment exactly this, and also their own sources present a more complicated situation than their claim. For example, from their 2nd source: Women with 10 or more partners were the most likely to divorce, but this only became true in recent years Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women with 2 partners Women with 0-1 partners were the least likely to divorce. So having 0-1 partners gives the best chance, but having 3-9 partners gives a better chances than 2 partner…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/22 12:19 AM
2	Men are way hornier than women, and this is the cause of everything being discussed here. The fact that this is even disputed is proof that women are unable to have an honest discussion about dating and gender relations. I don't think that there is such a thing as a sex drive, or maybe it would be more accurate to say our idea of a sex drive is very reductive. For this argument, I'm defining horny as being sexual aroused. Men generally experience spontaneous desire, women generally experience responsive desire. It makes sense that men would appear to "want" sex more; they don't need anything to trigger their desire like women do. It would also follow that men tend to seek out sex more than women do. I also think…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 10:59 PM
3	There is a core misunderstanding of what "average" is. Yeah, in general the more time I spend online the more I realize that when people think "obese" they can only think in extremes. I imagine that if you had a lot of people try to assign BMIs to pictures of various body types, the accuracy would be low.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 05:45 PM
2	Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women? Thought this was clear from the context of the post, but I'll clarify; when I said that male porn superfans were just as progressive, or even more so, than the general population, I meant that they were less, or just as, misogynistic as everyone else. I was paraphrasing from the study.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 04:59 PM
–	Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women? Not really gonna comment on the rest of this, but if the penis cutting incident you're referring to is about Lorena and John Bobbitt, it is very much worth noting that John raped and abused Lorena during their marriage. So yeah, I can understand a crowd of women laughing. Meanwhile, John got his dick reattached and went on to star in porn since it still looked normal. And then he was charged and convicted for battery multiple times. Not exactly the guy you wanna use to garner sympathy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 04:18 AM
–	Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women? That's the thing that I genuinely don't think a lot of men here will ever get because they don't live it. They really think that it's a privilege that all women have to do is "be" and men will have sex with them. They can't conceptualize that women, when told a bunch of strangers would be willing to have sex with them out of desperation, would see that as objectifying. They don't understand why women would respond to that with disgust, and they certainly don't understand how being that desperate…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 03:39 AM
4	Would women lose their social and reproductive value if men had easily acess to technology that made them be able to reproduce without women? There are always exceptions. Humans are weird.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 12:28 AM
9	Would women lose their social and reproductive value if men had easily acess to technology that made them be able to reproduce without women? No. It is still a social expectation that women are the ones who raise children. Doesn't matter if men can reproduce without women if they aren't willing to be single dads. The reality though is being a single parent fucking sucks and no one ever plans on being a single parent. Also family courts aren't nearly as sexist as people would believe. The reason men don't get custody is a self-fulfilling prophecy; due to the misconceptions, they assume they won't get it and therefore they never ask. Me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/22 12:02 AM
–	Ladies, what is the biggest thing that the men on this sub get wrong about women? I'll be the contrarian here and say that in reality, research has largely been inconsistent on whether or not porn leads to men hating women. But the strongest trend has been that if a man was already misogynistic and had antisocial traits to begin with, then yes, violent porn specifically does increase sexual violence risk. The most supported argument by research so far is that porn does influence our ideas about how relationships and sex are supposed to go; this makes sense because so many wom…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/22 11:33 PM
7	What are your thoughts on Otto Weininger? Yeah, I do not understand the need to project the man-woman dichotomy from straight dating culture onto LGBT relationships. By nature of being LGBT they're a lot of very different relationship dynamics since they don't have any social script to work off of. Especially with lesbians there are by far fewer butches than straight people seem willing to believe.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/22 05:30 PM
1	Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinking Considering that birth control pills are a thing, I think it's fair to assume that scientists had some understanding of women's hormones and how they affected the body. When I said we're only changing this recently, I mean 2010s and on type of recently. Women are still underrepresented in drug trials even now. Doctors in the past were not nearly incompetent as you make them seem; again, they just didn't test on women because hormones alter the affects of a lot of medication and that complicates …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/22 07:42 AM
8	Redditors always say treat women like people and not objects to be won but the way dating has gone encourages this sort of thinking No, male is definitely considered default. This is seen very clear if you look at medicine specifically; there is a huge gender bias in medicine and it puts women's health at risk. The easiest place to see this is heart attacks; women end up dying of them more because we're often taught the symptoms of heart-attacks in men, but heart attacks presents differently in women. They're also diagnosed with heart disease a lot later then men for the same reasons. The research on women's biology is incre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/22 10:39 PM
3	Men and Women BOTH hate being equal The issue here is your idea of equity is completely wrong. Equality is treating everyone the same; equal opportunity, not necessarily equal outcome. Equality is what ignores the differences between people and states; "Well, you all had the same opportunity, if you're not successful it's your own fault." Equity is recognizing that people start at different places in life, and thus giving them the aid they need in order to be just as successful as everyone else. Equity is something like accessibil…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/22 03:51 AM