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4

it falls apart when men are sentenced twice as hard as women for the same crime
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 09:56 PM
2

and you discovered that water is wet
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 11:25 PM

haha funny, I just replied back to you coming up with the same conclusion. We see things from our own gender biais. I'll take that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:20 PM

You're pointing out a huge difference of behavior between men and women, which is generally true about any subjects. "She clearly sees what she is doing is not working" let's agree to disagree. "Like OP is venting with this post. Let's judge what he looks like. And then ask him how his dating life is going" I agree you have a point, do we see the other gender venting through our own gender biais?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:18 PM

You're again missing the point entirely. I couldn't care less about the life of a stranger. It's important to acknowledge that if you keep complaining about not achieving the results you want, the set of parameters has to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:47 PM

That's a fair point as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:20 PM

If she is the common denominator, she's not entitled to the venting of her struggles. It's not that deep. I would welcome a discussion with you about the attractiveness part, but I don't think it belongs here. If you want to, reach out via PM or chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:05 PM

Dating is connection finding/building, not a numbers game to find the best option.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:01 PM

We understand this perfectly fine. If you make that choice, then stop bitching and assume the consequences of your choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:00 PM

Again, if after so many events and meeting men, she didn't find someone, the problem is not the men. The common denominator is the woman being described. "It’s not like she chooses who she’s attracted to." I am going to heavily disagree here and leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:31 PM

That's totally ok if she wants to be single. What the red pill and a majority of men are angry against is the bitching part, re this one posted on reddit to vent about a situation she created herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 07:21 PM

LMFAO, we are going to argue that it's different events now? really?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:54 PM

If you keep getting bad results and after many tries, you need to reevaluate your set of parameters. It's literally insanity to keeping trying the same failing recipe. It's really not that deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:49 PM

Your experience/opinion is not conclusive to describing a well documented phenomena. You are actually bad at debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:36 PM

LMFAO, this is the famous argument about having a house on the market and then having to reduce the price. Where is the true value? You're missing the point again, that what men are accurately pointing out is that when you have a collection of negative experiences, maybe it's time to reevaluate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:34 PM

Insanity is keep doing the same things and expect different results. I'll let you ponder on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:33 PM

This is the answer right there, I provided the same feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 06:11 PM
11

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 05:35 PM
22

No it's a scam because the ROI has a very low probability of success
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 04:34 PM

Misandrist poster put daily raigebait post, with the benediction of the mod team.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 03:10 PM
5

"In a similar way, radfems justify their man-hating from….traumatic stories they were not a part of. Not even acknowledging the stories where women have helped men do heinous shit." Here we go again, not even an ounce of accountability about the fact that a subset of women are doing heinous shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:27 PM
2

The irony of your last sentence, absolutely delicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:01 PM
1

The irony of this post from OP knowing all of her other posts, truly amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/26 10:00 PM
2

The OP is delusional about "dating and practice sessions" versus commitment on single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:49 PM
1

What could possibly go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/25 05:34 PM
14

This specific OP should be banned as her misandry is totally out the charts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 02:31 PM
1

Describing OP behavior is not a personal attack. Accountability is not persecution.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 11:06 PM

OP is a know troll. Despite this, she is allowed to post daily/several per week misandrist ragebait posts by the supposed moderation team.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/25 02:59 PM
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WOAH !!!! THIS ONE was put on hold for the moderators assessment and reinstated? really??? It's not like it's violating rule 10 of this sub at a minimum, absolutely unbelievable biais.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 08:34 PM
9

I didn't think I would say that, but I agree with everything you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 07:09 PM
3

Why do you believe that shaming tactic in your answer would work? I don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:51 PM
3

Exactly, the famous shaming tactic gets invoked (special spell casted)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:49 PM
6

Perfect example of DARVO right there, ie OP make a generalization about a subset of men which we all know is untrue (re generalization), and then we get the A(ttack), R(everse) V(ictim) and O(ffender). A total double down. I mean at this point, what is there left to say?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:46 PM
10

Reported for violation of rule 3.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:22 PM
17

OP is a known troll and should be banned. She has been posting multiple ragebait posts per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 05:20 PM
8

I'm getting really tired of this user and another one posting ragebait content every single day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 04:09 PM
6

OP is an absolute troll and should be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 03:27 PM
1

Thank you for saying this, I can't tell you how many times I had to say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:51 PM
1

exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:51 PM

I definitely agree with your last point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:48 PM
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I would go back to the argument of who pays for the first date again in Anglosaxon culture, but I don't see the point of arguing with you. I think you would learn a lot by listening to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 10:46 PM
1

He's stating that the juice is not worth the squeeze (risk management)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 09:00 PM
4

reread the sentence "lol as if the women they are trying to match you with have no job or money."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 08:59 PM
6

I was thinking about that as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:52 PM
4

here we go with the shaming tactic
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:49 PM
8

and that comes from a blue pill man...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/25 07:49 PM
2

Please ban this user
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 07:33 PM
1

The juice is not worth the squeeze
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:29 AM
2

This user needs to get banned due to trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/25 04:28 AM
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A reality OP is not willing to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:53 PM
1

"Is this mental illness or simply emotional immaturity?" Why not both?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 03:52 PM
1

The poster is a known troll, she's not here to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:12 PM
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The poster is a known troll, she's not here to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 02:11 PM
3

My opinion as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:33 AM

Accountability is her kryptonite.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:16 AM
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That's what a lot of men are doing now, and then you get :"Where are all the good men?"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 12:15 AM
1

Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:20 PM
2

The poster is a known troll, she's not here to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:06 PM
4

Your comment is on point and I'll add this one for some perspective: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d6Pee6Fyvoo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/25 06:05 PM
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"Women as a group are not harming men and men are not an oppressed class." DARVO I will give merely an example: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/doordasher-claims-sexual-assault-but-cops-arrest-her-for-filming-nude-drunk-man/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 07:41 PM
2

When will this OP get banned?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:37 PM
0

"Mens biological clock ticks harder then women." We really don't leave in the same reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 06:35 PM
3

why is independence anathema to commitment? independence: "the fact or state of being independent." Indepedent: "free from outside control; not depending on another's authority." commitment: "an engagement or obligation that restricts freedom of action." Imagine knowing words and their definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 10:49 PM
3

Plenty of statistics and studies show it, re hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:14 PM
2

Easier to rent and not get attached.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:12 PM
4

Not sure I would agree there, I could ask the famous debate between equality and who should pay on the first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 07:08 PM
1

Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 02:36 PM
2

You're on a known troll on this sub, and you know it. Your comment is pure deflection like always.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/25 02:36 PM
5

Thanks for this comment and I have the exact same opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/25 04:32 PM
1

Yes that they are a bunch of reasons why men are apathetic. I agree with your comment, and the comment above.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:11 AM
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https://stevenbartlett.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/DOAC-Lost-Boys-Independent-Research-and-Further-Reading.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 02:10 AM
2

I agree with your comment. No political party in the US cares about young american men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 01:55 AM
1

I don't see how the two are related
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 11:20 PM

Thanks for that very informative reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:53 PM
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Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:35 PM
8

"Clubs are taking advantage of women going out in groups and it's not right. Things should go back to how they used to be." Equality except when it doesn't suit you. Perfect example right there !!! "After all, women are the one's who bring in the men, plus we already have to spend money on getting ready and looking our best - these extra fees are exploitative." LMFAO
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:34 PM
1

Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:02 PM
2

I fixed my comment sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:00 PM

I would agree with you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:22 PM
5

The ideal compromise answer would be to reject any woman not considering 50/50 (going dutch) on the first date, because this means she values her time more than yours. I definitely agree with the second part of what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 12:18 PM
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Oh boy, equality stops when the question comes of who should pay on the first date. Didn't anyone tell you? /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:54 AM
2

Euh totally not true at all. https://jhr.uwpress.org/content/58/1/260 http://web.simmons.edu/~turnerg/MCC/Matechoice2PDF.pdf The overall tendency in the US, is that people mary/partner within their social economic circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:51 AM
2

"A higher percent of Gen Z women are in the labor force than Gen Z men, and the gender pay gap has reversed for Gen Z, where gen z women earn more than gen z men. As stated above, I don't think women will want a man they have to provide for, which for Gen Z, it's looking increasingly likely that's what women would have to do if they partnered up with men." That's totally fine, be careful what you wish for.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:48 AM
5

I'm going to go with violation of rule number 3 here based on the profile of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:35 AM
2

I totally agree with you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 10:22 PM
2

"Male sexuality is a net harm to women and women are better off decentering men or entering relationships with each other." Leave us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/25 07:55 PM
2

The assumption that passport bros are going to other countries and that women there are poor and uneducated... You really need to travel to get a massive reality check. And again, it's not your life. You have no right in policing the life of a subset of the opposite's gender. Can you imagine if I was making the reverse statement?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 01:51 AM

clickbait BS
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:30 PM
5

That's not your life, nor your decision. Why do you believe that you have the right to police a subset of the opposite gender's behavior? You're batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:27 PM
2

Why the fuck do you care? Leave those men alone. Batshit insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 11:26 PM
2

I don't have data to provide to back this up but I believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 02:25 PM
8

Perfect reply and this thread can end here, ragebait poster.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:49 PM
2

That's totally fine and men listened, we just don't want to hear the bitching about the other women why men are not approaching, ie can't have it both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:34 PM
3

Yes I agree with your observation, the dynamics are shifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 11:32 PM
1

it is, action of one individual versus a significant subset. "There it is. You WANT to believe tiktok and IG nobodies represent all women. You WANT to ignore women, especially on youtube, when they see man hating and find it disgusting." This defines a subset, and my opinion is that this subset is significant. I did not imply the other part, but I will happily return the argument right back at you with the famous discussion of "not all men". Any generalization of a subset of individuals applied …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:59 PM
1

That's fair, and I think it applies to both genders doesn't it? I think that says a lot more about human nature than anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:13 PM
1

And I would reply back to you that women take offense even quicker when something is said about them, and you usually witness the sisterhood effect.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:05 PM
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Listen mam, I will say this with the utmost politeness. My term is anything but appropriate when there are tens of thousands of posts/videos of women putting a preference in dating based on men's height (the famous 6ft anglo saxon argument)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 07:03 PM
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I will try to provide the best reply I can. "If a man says “women should behave a certain way in order not to get raped because men are dangerous”, other men usually don’t mind it." You are bringing up a good point, and let me be clear that this is potential victim blaming in this case, where I agree with you. I would personally disagree with you that other men usually don't mind it. "If a woman says that men are dangerous and women have to take precautions, there are at least some men who take …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:51 PM
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yes very very small, you're speaking about the actions of a known individual versus the tiktok/instagram deluge of regular women bashing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:44 PM
1

I am not going to dive into how YOU interpreted the word, that's our own problem right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:10 PM
3

giving one small example versus the deluge is not sufficient to counter the point you made earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 06:09 PM
1

I am calling you off on your bullshit, and attempt at dodging.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:53 PM
6

Here we go with the bad debater: Making a false analogy of my statement: "by that logic not being chosen for a job is also discrimination" "every time a guy picks a woman over other women he's being discriminatory" Yes that's what I am saying and it applies both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 05:51 PM

Makes me think about what I read on r/Tinder Rule 1: Be attractive Rule 2: Don't be unattractive That says a lot right there. Dating by definition is discriminatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:24 PM
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Afghanistan 2.0, really? Women are humans. Batshit statement and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:22 PM
4

Your reply is so biased, I don't even know where to start. "And theyre not the ones saying “Why do you women keep saying those things?!” because they know why." Let me rephrase your answer, it's not enough that hordes of men are calling bad men out. I usually don't like to play pingpong but you are opening yourself to it right now. "For example? Because Doechii just said she doesnt date straight men (probably as a joke) and got called out for it by women." The only women online that I know of ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:19 PM
6

I agree 100 percent with what you wrote. I have experienced this several times, and I came down to the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 04:02 PM
5

I'll call men out for their shitty behavior when a majority of women will call out the 10s of thousands batshit videos on tiktok made by women bashing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/25 03:54 PM
4

Right? absolutely batshit insane
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/25 03:03 AM
21

I was just about to comment that too. All loves and relationship are conditionals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 10:54 PM
2

Exactly my opinion as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:27 PM
2

I call this the vanity crisis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 09:16 PM
5

That's totally ok and the reverse is true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:43 PM

Again, the TEA app is not free speech as it does not includes limits for deletion/correction for the men involved, nor the ability to pursue reparation for libel and/or defamation. Are there bad men? absolutely That is again not an excuse for what I am mentioning above.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 11:34 PM

I would argue for less " US like free speech", or to put a different wording for more of "regulated European free speech". The free speech concept is only a US fantasy that Americans love to boast, even when reality is far different from the ideal that they publicize. Unfortunately for you, I'll share the below link https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-freedom-of-speech https://rsf.org/en/usa-trump-s-vision-free-speech-comes-expense-press-freedom The United States ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:54 PM

At best, you are making an argument within the US Legal system. I'll share this article https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/25/us/tea-app-dating-privacy-cec The Tea app has no mechanism to remove harmful content as the individual in question is not even aware of being posted. So even within the US legal system, it is far from obvious that it is actually complying with the limits of Free Speech. In any other country that really cares about privacy, you would have the right for correction of the data publ…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:36 PM

Again, there is zero point in arguing with you. You are not interested in listening to other points of view, or questioning yours that would differ with your sincere held beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:12 PM

Inability to debate by introducing an absolute insane argument that has nothing to do with the subject of the app which is doxxing men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 10:00 PM

And here we are, the absolute batshit insane argument "black or white". This is the exact argument being brought by governments to entrench more and more on privacy on the internet for example, "to protect the children" while the real goal is to be able to spy on everyone. I could name forbidding VPNs, forbidding porn below 18, asking for encryption to be broken by the governement etc. That by itself disqualifies anything you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:46 PM
2

Your answer is a mature assessment of the situation, kudos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:33 PM
2

Misandry is acceptable on reddit, but calling out those individuals on it is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 09:29 PM

I swept up your point, and acts as if I want to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:19 PM

Exactly this, if you don't think like me, you are the problem. Absolute clown.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:18 PM

Right? Let's not even dive into the defamation/libel part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:17 PM
1

Just go look at the statistics posted on r/tinder and r/hinge from men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:16 PM
4

Don't you love it when a clown goes on to make a generalization about an entire gender?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:10 PM
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LMFAO, the typical if you don't think like me, something is wrong with you. Stop saying you want to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 08:09 PM
2

Sealioning, the probability that the 73 is consistent across sex is correct, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:09 PM
2

Don't bother them with your facts /s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:08 PM
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Do you have the same opinion for women posting "men hate women" videos and posts? because they are tens of thousands of them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 07:01 PM
1

First, I would like to acknowledge your reply and the thoughts that you have put into this particular issue. I agree with a lot of what you wrote, and especially this part: "So I know that rejection is going to happen, because we can't control others attraction, and they cannot control ours. Dating is inherently discriminatory." Before and "Is it to make no one ever wanting to aporoach anyone?" Women and mostly "feminist" (please note the parenthesis) women have been screaming to men for years/d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:46 PM
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My point is a bit different, there is zero reason for men to approach to be rejected and only give an ego boost. You can interpret my statement as a cold risk analysis evaluation. While the flattered person may feel good, it has the opposite effect on the other. In addition, this specific issue is very one sided where women are the vast percentage of the receivers of flattery/compliments.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 02:18 PM
4

That's called an ego boost.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:18 PM
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LMFAO, you didn't read any statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:36 AM
3

Tough shit, put your big girl pants and you will have to do the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:29 AM
2

Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:29 AM
4

yeah not risking jail for this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:28 AM
2

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:27 AM
5

We're not dropping anything. We listened and you just don't like the consequences of your gender actions/statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:27 AM
5

Exactly, zero accountability. I will add this " be careful what you wish for, you might just get it"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:25 AM
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"But men nowadays have dropped the ball on this. You all aren't keeping up your end of the contract and THIS is why dating is so terrible these days." The only thing I will reply to this is that you can ask the bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:23 AM
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The decision has been made, no approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 12:20 AM
1

This, and especially not obsessed over the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:10 AM
2

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:14 AM

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 03:07 AM

"Around 1910, make-up became fashionable in the United States of America and Europe owing to the influence of ballet and theatre stars such as Mathilde Kschessinska and Sarah Bernhardt."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:20 PM

Please see the irony of your statement versus the top comment of this side discussion "I was told by women that they don’t try to look good for men. Why should we do anything different?" and the title of your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:17 PM
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Your argument fell apart when you related it to your own personal experience, in addition to expanding the situation past the first date. Learn how to provide a sound argumentation first.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:13 PM

You literally provided why men should not do that. Maybe the problem is on the side of your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:10 PM

oh boy now you want to say something true on this subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:08 PM

Woah that went right over your head, impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 03:07 PM

I can't upvote this enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:06 AM
2

Exactly, women never ask the person for a date, the typical bullshit answer. Equality except when it suits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 05:03 AM
1

I stopped at the title
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:58 PM

Two wrongs do not make a right, and I think it is ok for men to put the mirror back at you and show you what your gender is also doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:55 PM

Sure I can agree to some extent with that statement. The problem with your statement is that there are tens of thousands of videos like this, without counting the reddit posts, etc. I think you fail to acknowledge the problem, or acknowledge reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:54 PM

Thank you for everything you just wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 11:50 PM
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Maybe it's semantics, but I take issue with the following part: "led to believe". That's the part that I disagree with in your statement, they are tens of thousands of videos, mainly from tiktok, that literally shows that women do not want to be approached, and to be way clearer on this issue: they don't want to be approached by a man that they don't find attractive. I would actually argue that on this special aspect, social media has opened a window in women's thinking and men are learning fast…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:24 PM
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ok that makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:16 PM
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Did I misinterpret this comment I'm confused by you answer. I took based on what you wrote as you would want to be in the same situation as this woman to have a 29M come over and attempt to impregnate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 08:14 PM
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This
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:31 PM
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"This is so appalling to me." how messed up are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:27 PM
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"The problem with modern dating in today's society is that due to social media, men are led to believe that women do not want to be approached or talked to and are afraid of doing so because they might be seen as a creep and have few friends and are very lucky to have even one single female friend and our problems aren't really taken seriously." Not at all, men have experienced too many examples of this, especially in the US. They're done and women will have to do the approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:26 PM
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I wish I could give this more than one upvote. Social media has open a window on the general though process of women for dating, and young men are wising up.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 04:24 PM

I think you discovered or confirmed the double standard on this issue. Just wait for the posts that are going to blame the guy for shooting his shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:38 AM
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Please reread this post and my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:00 AM
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It's not only racial, there is gender discrimination, and I provided the goods. Your second sentence is insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:57 AM
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I was calling out your comments, and especially this one : "So, there is no actual discrimination."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:13 AM
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No discrimation.... sure let's dive in. Suspension rates: racial and gender inequalities “A boy is twice as likely to be suspended on a behavior adjusted basis twice as likely to be suspended for the exact same infraction as a girl. Five times as likely if it's a black boy.” ● Shollenberger Tracey L. (2014) Racial Disparities in School Suspension and Subsequent Outcomes: Evidence from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth Pp. 31–43 in Closing the School Discipline Gap: Equitable Remedies for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:03 AM
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I am providing literature and links, and I hope it will make you reevaluate your beliefs. Suspension rates: racial and gender inequalities “A boy is twice as likely to be suspended on a behavior adjusted basis twice as likely to be suspended for the exact same infraction as a girl. Five times as likely if it's a black boy.” ● Shollenberger Tracey L. (2014) Racial Disparities in School Suspension and Subsequent Outcomes: Evidence from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth Pp. 31–43 in Closing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:02 AM
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I am providing literature and links, and I hope it will make you reevaluate your beliefs. Suspension rates: racial and gender inequalities “A boy is twice as likely to be suspended on a behavior adjusted basis twice as likely to be suspended for the exact same infraction as a girl. Five times as likely if it's a black boy.” ● Shollenberger Tracey L. (2014) Racial Disparities in School Suspension and Subsequent Outcomes: Evidence from the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth Pp. 31–43 in Closing…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:00 AM
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Even with the court system? or the punishment of boys vs girls in school? really?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:16 AM
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You're a breath of fresh air, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 03:14 AM
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That's my take on it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:38 PM
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Well, that's a valid reason if you don't see her having direction in life. Money is the number one reason for divorce. I would add that statistics show that marriage happens at the same socio economic level and it was even more reinforced by the dating apps. Take my comments for what they're worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:29 PM

Holy moly, you literally put into words what I have experienced and found absolutely totally fucked up about this specific "trend". I have done the very same thing and cut a bunch of people off for agreeing with such a fucked up mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:26 AM
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more A or more B?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:22 AM
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Is that sarcasm or your current perception of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:39 PM

I very much agree with you. I think you nailed on it on the head, the first step to solve a problem is acknowledging there is one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:01 PM

Don't know if you've seen this but I'll share the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li70iz1NaDY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:34 PM

Thank you for this very well written answer. I have experienced very similar things, and I agree with everything you've written.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:31 PM

I agree so much with what you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:22 PM

I'll add this that the long term trends worlwide are showing that the trends will reverse. This behavior of hypergamy will have to change. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5421994/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:19 PM

I would counter that comment with this: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5421994/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:17 PM

Took me a while to find it: https://stevenbartlett.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/DOAC-Lost-Boys-Independent-Research-and-Further-Reading.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 04:58 PM
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Tells me you haven't thought about the issue seriously. The role that a government in a country is doing is providing financial incentives by being married and have a family so that the population can at least be stable, for the economy and associated foreign politics of the country. If you don't, you will end up like Japan, which has had deflation for 30 years, and is projected to have the country population go down by 50 percent by 2100. If you're ok with deflation, then just say this. In the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:56 AM
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I agree with your comment on the article. I agree with you re majority of men, let's make an assumption though that if we assume that the filing of the paperwork is equal to the dissatisfaction for whatever reason, the ratio is 70/30.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:08 PM
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Thank you for your clarification. An interesting link, and happy cake day. https://divorce.com/blog/who-initiates-divorce-more/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:58 PM
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Thank you for your awesome comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:41 PM
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Thank you for this wise comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:36 PM
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Interesting statement you are bringing up then, let's push it a little bit further. "They don't need my money and I don't need theirs." Therefore, there are 0 benefits for the man or the woman to get married from a financial perspective. Do you see the consequences now? or do I need to spell them out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:35 PM
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"Women file the paperwork, they’re not the cause of the divorce." This is exactly the kind of statement that's flat out wrong, a relationship or marriage is two individuals, and it's utter bullshit to say that women are saints and have never one ounce of responsibility in the divorce happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:32 PM
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Finally, a somewhat intelligent comment. I would recommend this article to you, that might put some things in perspective https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2025/03/marrying-down-wife-education-hypogamy/682223/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:30 PM
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The solutions we would propose is not something that you would be open to listen/accept. There is no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 07:28 PM
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What an interesting comment. It couldn't be that when a relationship fail, both side has some blame right?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:33 AM
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100 percent, and the smart ones learn very quickly that looks fade, but a great personality doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:32 AM
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well research would tend to prove about smells, but go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:09 PM
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Physical attributes, it will go away as time flows by.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:08 PM
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But the butterflies /s and the toxicity /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:07 PM
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"So my question is - what makes you believe there's an abundance of good options to choose from?" I think your question is valid but there is another side as well that you completely ignored. To answer your question, there is an abundance of options, but it's a mirage. Getting a connection with another human being is extremely rare, and even rarer in the mating domain. Physical attraction does not mean that said individual will be a good partner. Good men, and there are lots of them, will strong…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:05 PM
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"You’d be shocked at how many people treat you as an inconvenience when you need help." Not at all, and I would totally agree with you on that one. The proverb is something like that, be in dip shit and you will know who you friends really are. That shows a lot of individualism, and I would say that it's getting to an extreme in the US. "But what do most people in relationships actually get?" That's an interesting question that has many aspects, too long to debate here. Let me agree with you in …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:29 PM
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I actually believe that telling people to "stop prioritizing romantic relationships" is idiotic, humans are social creatures and crave being able to have a close bond with a partner. It's denying part of our very nature. What I have observed is a clear lack of accountability from both sides of this equation, and a lack of the realization that a lot of humans suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 09:27 PM
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Taking an extreme example as you did does not invalidate my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 08:08 PM
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Let time do its magic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:36 PM
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Being celibate is fine up to the point where you have heart attack symptoms and you need to go to the hospital by yourself. That's when you realize that you have no one. I think your comment is definitely on point and thank you for writing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:32 PM
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Thank you for writing this and sharing it. I definitely agree with almost everything you wrote.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:31 PM
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Men don't have to invest in anything that doesn't interest them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:22 PM

This is really stupid on so many levels. Outside of the fact that you may have nephews/nieces sons/daughters, this will be a new reality. The social demographics of dating are changing, the change is happening and will settle to a new normal to be defined. I care for the generations that will come after us, as a kind person should. Also, I would return back to you this, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. Lower birth rates will lead the US to a Japan/South Korea 2.0, so forget a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 07:20 PM

bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:59 PM

What's your black pill definition here? I'm curious
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:58 PM

not going to change your view, the statement is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:57 PM
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makes sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:03 PM
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I would mostly agree with you. I would add though that conversation via texting is difficult, especially in this context, the choice of words and luck is of utmost importance, and I think that reinforced this male behavior of being short to not screw up the fact that they got a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:27 AM
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I agree with your comments, the apps and their statistics are a reflection of "human social behavior" in mating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:16 AM
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I couldn't agree more, it has reinforced the group belonging and echo chambers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:15 AM
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ok, let's proceed with the discussion if you're ok with it. Yes I have read the link as well as many peer reviewed articles on the "mating-dating" subjects. I am not agreeing with you on some aspects, and will explain. Quote from OP post: "They quietly introduced features like "Opening Moves," allowing women to set pre-written icebreakers, which lets men carry the conversation from there. It’s a compromise that subtly makes things easier again for women, to keep them engaged." Bumble had to chan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:04 AM
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You asked for it, so here it is https://medium.com/yulyas-blog/what-real-statistics-tells-about-tinder-and-how-to-get-more-matches-according-to-it-8e984b822813 The interesting point is how once again it frustrates the users. Males try to get more matches by liking everyone and make “post-filtering” — deciding whether to write to female or not after they already got a match (and apparently often they decide not to). What happens on the female side is that women put effort into carefully selecting…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:40 AM
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Absolutely wrong based on the statistics.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:09 AM
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I fully agree with your analysis
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:06 AM
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No need to tell them, men in anglo saxons countries already have. In addition, your point of view is irrealistic and toxic. It's not by keeping grinding and changing yourself that you will become fullfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 12:58 AM

Exactly, GTFO
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:14 PM
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I'll bring my scale to weight your princess. On a more serious note, It's absolutely shallow and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 05:13 PM
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