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Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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2	Matt Haig 'crucified' on Twitter for planning book about masculinity I'm trying to show that the pinnacle of book sales is overwhelmingly populated by women. I chose the stats that represent that. That's my point: how do you define "pinnacle"? Of the many people who have written books throughout history, does four sound about right for the pinnacle? Or is it just the number that maximizes the female to male ratio, despite most other choices of number yielding a very different result? When you use statistics, you have to be careful to (1) set the goalposts first r…	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 03:36 PM
3	Matt Haig 'crucified' on Twitter for planning book about masculinity EDIT: Of the top four selling authors of all time, three are women. Heh, this is a bit off-topic, but I was like, "that seems like an oddly cherry-picked statistic," so I checked the link. You could also very well say "Of the top 10 selling authors of all time, 4 are women" or "Of the top 20 selling authors of all time, 8 are women" or "Of the top 30 selling authors of all time, 9 are women" or "Of the top 40 selling authors of all time, 9.5 are women" or "Of the top 50 selling authors of all ti…	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 07:22 AM
-3	5 Reasons Women Earn Less Than Men (first article by a lurker) Hm, I'm not sure the example of startups and CEOs is particularly strong, because there are a lot of factors. With older companies like Ford, women in those times had very limited ability to possess capital / acquire loans / get a technical education, all things needed in order to be an entrepreneur and own a business. In the U.S.: The ability to own property, have separate finances, engage in business, etc. weren't granted until the 1840s, and weren't widespread until the 1890s. Similarly, coll…	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 06:40 AM
2	Matt Haig 'crucified' on Twitter for planning book about masculinity Ah that's good. I'll use toxic gender roles from now on. I think you're right, it does hurt people to suggest that it's maleness that's toxic rather than the gender role. Most here don't deny it. I guess I was just disappointed at the top-rated comments, which do explicitly deny it or subtly reinforce it ("behaving in such and such way makes you a pussy"). Not saying you deny it, obviously. Because he is making those points in the same inauthentic manner that you expect from feminists. We don't …	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 05:26 AM
1	Matt Haig 'crucified' on Twitter for planning book about masculinity I do see why you'd have an issue with the term, but let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. Why not come up with a different name instead? Denying that narrow definitions of masculinity exist, for the sake of spiting feminists, is throwing men who are hurt by those narrow definitions under the bus. Haig didn't even mention toxic masculinity, as far as I can tell, but just because he said nice words about feminism, people here automatically reject the points he's making, even though the…	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 04:24 AM
7	Mother Threatens To Kill Children Just For Taking Her Phone. Father records assault on his child Wow, that's horrifying. The kid crying and begging his dad to give her the phone... It's especially awful how the woman (I think she's a stepmother? she mentions the kids' mom in third person) hits the kids in order to get THEM to coerce the dad into doing what she wants. Every single person in this video seems overwhelmingly miserable. I wish them happiness -- in the woman's case, a happiness far far FAR away from children and relationships she's clearly not capable of handling.	/r/MensRights	16/06/15 03:52 AM
3	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. While slut-shaming may come overwhelmingly from women, I think the defensive comments on this page suggest a sizable proportion of men are complicit, and not just because they want the approval of high status women. For each comment here from a guy who loves sluts, there's two justifying the biological reasons ("animal instincts") why men think less of women who have lots of sex. (Why justify a practice you don't engage in?)	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 04:34 PM
1	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. Ah okay, I see what you mean now. The term "damaged goods" has two meanings, and I was assuming the second one and you were assuming the first one: 1) A feeling of brokenness left in the wake of rape and other traumatic events in general. "Will anyone still love me knowing this happened to me?" "I'm not normal anymore." etc. The trauma of rape itself causes damage. Hence it makes sense to label rape victims as "damaged goods". Non-gendered. 2) Not a virgin, having had sex outside of marriage/com…	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 04:13 PM
1	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. It's not the second one. I'm not sure if it's the first one either, but that one sounds pretty close. I think what people mean by "slut-shaming is wrong" is that enjoying sex and engaging in it casually shouldn't be a way to shame someone. Actually, I think the idea of slut-shaming also encompasses the notion that the same sexual behavior in men and women should be treated the same. For example, my friend said he once had a female friend come crying to him after having a one-night stand because …	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 07:47 AM
1	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. Ah okay, I think I understand. Essentially, male and female sexuality are given different values, with female purity kind of a premium on top of normal female sexuality. So for women, the idea of being "damaged goods" kicks in after losing virginity, whereas men are roughly equivalent to "damaged goods" just in general, before and after. And yeah, it does seem like hyperagency or hypoagency would affect the kind of trauma inflicted, but I don't think I know enough to weigh in.	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 06:52 AM
1	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. Hm... I'm not understanding the point you're making here. Is the point you're making simply about why women would be seen more as damaged goods then men i.e. because society values her virginity / sexual history more than it values a man's? I'm not really arguing with that, just saying that I don't think society needs to see you as damaged goods in order for you to experience trauma from rape. Or is your point something else?	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 05:31 AM
3	Want Fewer False Rape Accusations? Stop Slut Shaming. I would say it's pretty easy to reconcile the two. I haven't been raped but from my understanding a huge part of the traumatization of rape is about not having bodily control, someone doing something to you / using your body without your consent, which is a violation of yourself, of your bodily autonomy. That alone is a BIG deal. You can definitely definitely be hurt by rape / be a "survivor" of rape minus the classification of being "damaged goods". This applies for men and women. (Just wonderi…	/r/MensRights	15/06/15 03:20 AM