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2	Hypothesis: men who fail at relationships with women must learn to think like women I'd assume there are many reasons. Some men might feel entitled to women's bodies, or want to avoid the social stigma of being with an average/below average woman. And let's be real... there is a type of man who dislikes women... especially women who are overweight or "ugly". His primary expectation of women is sex, so he sees no use in interacting with a woman if she isn't immediately physically attractive to him.	/r/ExRedPill	28/01/23 02:17 AM
2	Hypothesis: men who fail at relationships with women must learn to think like women I thought I already replied to this... whoops! Sorry about that. How do a women think? Sure, many women obviously share some similarities regarding how they think about sexuality/relationships, but do you believe our thoughts are homogeneous enough to make it possible to say a person can think like a woman? I'm not so sure about that. Deep romantic relationships are complex. What makes love and romance so intoxicating is the combination of physical attraction (whether it is immediate or develops…	/r/ExRedPill	28/01/23 01:12 AM
2	Hypothesis: men who fail at relationships with women must learn to think like women Quite a few men seem to have that problem, so I'm sure its impact is not insignificant for those people. But imho, for most men, I doubt that's the only factor... or even the biggest one.	/r/ExRedPill	27/01/23 10:53 PM
7	Hypothesis: men who fail at relationships with women must learn to think like women What does it mean to "think like women"? Honestly, I think one of the biggest issue with RP men is that they lack healthy platonic relationships, particularly with women. It's difficult to understand or empathize with a group that you never interact with, or when their only relationships you've had with women have been toxic or abusive. The rest comes down to self-confidence and self-perception imo. They're told they're not good enough by RP groups and that the only way to get what they want is …	/r/ExRedPill	26/01/23 07:35 PM
8	shaming and bullying people for watching the red pill isn't going to help them get away from it (ex : watching andrew tate, hamza, sneako, and etc) I'm very much a leftist, but I agree... to a certain extent. I believe it's extremely important to challenge TRP beliefs and that hard truths are crucial to anyone getting out and improving themselves and their mindsets. But attacking individual men will only make them sadder and angrier, which will just reinforce their biases; we see that all the time online. You have to knock down the wall they've built around themselves first. Sadly, these men are obviously painfully lonely, lost, and feeling…	/r/ExRedPill	16/01/23 09:59 PM
8	I don't understand why people would want to quit being redpilled. Redpill ideology exploits your insecurities and uses them against you under the guise of "self-help", "dating advice" or "the 'truth'". It tells lonely, despondent men that no woman will ever find them lovable if they don't fit in the small fabricated box redpillers label "high-value man". It's no secret that most of those who frequent those communities seriously struggle with self-perception and confidence, so it's not difficult for them to fall into the pipeline. It encourages men to despair f…	/r/ExRedPill	16/01/23 09:29 PM
1	The sweet benefits of marriage for men as described here by PPD: Not getting a dime of a wife's inheritance One shouldn't use a legal concept to symbolize spiritual concepts of love. I don't disagree. Nevertheless, people still do it all the time. All of those revolve around sharing expenses to some degree. The reasons I want to ensure that my SO's wishes regarding his medical treatment/death arrangements are honored (and vice versa) have nothing to do with finances. And yes with taxes when you file jointly you are saying your income is one. And thats how the law will view assets you acquire. Sure. Le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/01/23 02:33 AM
16	Why women think their Degree/Money/Career of their own is important Misogynists like this refuse to see that the "hypergamy"—and women's financial dependence on men—that they whine endlessly about was often the only option for women in the past... or at least the only alternative to poverty. There weren't exactly many "self-made" women. We couldn't even open our own bank accounts until the 60s or have a credit card until the 70s. My grandmothers were in their 40s in 1970. It's laughable to insist that we aren't still affected by the same kinds beliefs that forba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/23 05:40 AM
1	The sweet benefits of marriage for men as described here by PPD: Not getting a dime of a wife's inheritance We don't know if the husband wanted her to pay personal expenses of his. Maybe he wanted to just have her pay more things they shared before. I'd consider paying for his and his parents dinner, as a personal expense. And again, it's not just about the money. He didn't even have enough courtesy or respect for her to even bother asking her or even giving her a heads up. if people do not want to share any form of expenses, what is the point in being married ? Well... while I don't personally care a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/23 05:01 AM
2	The sweet benefits of marriage for men as described here by PPD: Not getting a dime of a wife's inheritance There's quite a difference between "sharing expenses" (which not every couple wants to do, by the way) and feeling so entitled to your SO's inheritance that you treat them like a personal ATM... and not only that, completely blindside them. He is obviously taking advantage of her. How is that so difficult for you to see?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/23 04:31 AM
29	Why women think their Degree/Money/Career of their own is important It's absolutely absurd to insist that women only want to improve their lives so they can attract men. All people, regardless of gender, want to pursue their interests, make a difference (yes... by being a doctor/nurse, therapist, social worker, teacher, medical researcher, ect.), and/or because we want (and usually NEED) to be financially self-sufficient so we can live comfortable, fulfilling lives with or without a man. You are also seriously overestimating how much most men actually contribute…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/23 04:03 AM
0	Ladies, would you swipe right? Absolutely not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/22 10:06 PM
2	The difference between how women treat their boyfriends and other men is much larger than how men treat their girlfriends and other women As a woman, when I am approached by man—who is almost always larger and stronger than I—my safety is at the forefront of my mind. Self-preservation is much more important than politeness. I doubt many people would disagree with that. This doesn't mean that I think every male stranger who approaches me will harm me. I know as well as anyone that there are many wonderful, kind, beautiful men in the world who would never do such a thing. But... at the same time, there's no way for me to know that t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 03:17 PM
0	Men do not inherently like women but women absolutely love men. Women on the other hand are obsessed with men through and through. lol... What proof do you have of this? Or literally any of your arguments. They love that a man has complete and absolute physical superiority over them. I certainly don't love that. While I have no reason to believe my current SO would ever hurt me, if I were in a newer relationship—or simply alone with a man I don't trust—our size difference would only be a reminder that I can easily be overpowered if he has been deceptive abou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/22 01:33 PM
2	Women think nice men are least sexually attractive but best for relationships Interesting. So if a small number of people accurately represent the majority of the population, why exactly is more better? Why would studies seek a large sample size if any set of <200 people are effectively the same as any other group of people? Why not just save the time and money? And why would anyone bother conducting research of topics that were already studied over a 100 years ago if they're just as accurate as studies done in the 21st century? Does the same go for scienc or medicine? If…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/22 04:32 PM
3	What do women mean when they say they want to feel protected by a man? I believe it more so means "safe" too. For me it also means that I—for example—would want my SO to back me up when I/we are in an argument with a stranger/friends/family (within reason, of course), and he should expect the same from me. We should BOTH support each other and try to be a safe and nonjudgmental person to open up to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/22 10:43 PM
2	Q4all: is there such a thing as "not looking for a man" Of course there is such a thing. Serious relationships take a lot of work, and not everyone is in a position where they can or want to put in that work. Some are also grieving a prior relationship. And some people just want to focus on other things in their lives. Men and women can have all kinds of goals... why would "finding a man", hot or not, be on the top of the list for every woman, especially for those who have had unhealthy relationships in the past? I feel like I say this in literally e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/22 12:58 PM
4	People from broken homes and dysfunctional families rarely make good partners. So what, you couldn't find a source that isn't from an organization with an extremely obvious political agenda? That's a shame. then why are are you on Reddit and not some elite academic institution browsing white papers and symposiums. Are you lost? This is a debate sub. Good debates require valid, unbiased sources. Why are you here if you're only interested in blurting "Google it" when someone asks you to back up your own argument?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 02:15 PM
5	People from broken homes and dysfunctional families rarely make good partners. I agree that can happen, but as stated in the OP title: that is RARE Source?	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 01:33 PM
10	People from broken homes and dysfunctional families rarely make good partners. It's unfair and unrealistic to make such a sweeping generalization. We all handle trauma in different ways, and many of us have resources available to get better. And people CAN get better. My SO, for example, came from a mess of a home. He is one of the kindest and loving people I know. You are also underestimating how many families are "dysfunctional" in one way or another. Many of us have experienced some type of trauma/were negatively affected by our upbringing in some way... even when our f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 01:30 PM
5	Stabilize the dating scene by making men as comfortable being single as women. That's odd, as last time I checked it was women who were pressured from basically birth to enter relationships, while men are largely left alone in that regard. I disagree, actually. Both men and women are pressured into entering relationships... however, as a whole, women are encouraged to aim for true love/marriage/having kids, while men are often given the impression that having a hot trophy wife or girlfriend somehow establishes and/or reinforces their status and masculinity. Many are also t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/22 09:26 PM
5	What are your actual dealbreakers? I made the same mistake... lol	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 02:14 PM
1	What are your actual dealbreakers? bigotry of all kinds an interest in adhering to "traditional gender roles" they're both religious AND do not accept my atheism/try to convert me or make me go to frequent religious services being unkind in general, especially toward those in the service industry they're conservative they dislike deep conversations/friendly debates they take themselves too seriously/are unable to banter or joke around disinterest in improving themselves, their lives, or their mental health (whichever is applicabl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 01:35 PM
8	Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and age Women are socialized to be agreeable. Caretakers. Peacekeepers. In some of the most popular religions, we are taught to be subservient. Quiet. When of us speak out, even as children, we are often punished or criticized. Take school dress codes, for example. Instead of teaching boys that they need to learn how to behave appropriately and get used to being around girls and women, schools police perfectly normal and appropriate clothing; many send the girls home, denying them education, because the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 11:50 PM
7	Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and age No. Because you can ask most men and look at almost any form of media old and new... Old books and all and most of the men will write about the complicated and fickle Nature of women Gee, I wonder if that has anything to do with society's attitude toward women in the past, and the fact that we were perceived as weak, hysterical, and stupid. Or the religious texts that demand that women be subservient and shut the fuck up. At times we weren't even allowed to vote, have our own bank accounts, or o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 09:59 PM
2	Relatively speaking, loneliness is not worse for men because they do not need to be as social as women I assume that because women often encourage men here to be more social, but I may be biased. We're all biased in some ways. I'm glad you recognize the possibility though. It's rare to come by in this sub. I honestly do not see those echo chambers worse than resentful feminists hating men, though. Of course, it is another dynamic... women resenting exes and men who did not commit to them, while men resent women not interested in them, but still the same feelings of resentment and hate are found i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 09:43 PM
5	Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and age If you can't measure something, it's best practice to not make sweeping claims about an entire demographic of people. And if you're mostly interacting with people with similar beliefs and mindsets (which I'm willing to bet OP has) their anecdotes are only feeding confirmation bias. If there are more male software engineers than female engineers and there are more female nurses than male nurses, can we make a conclusion that men and women are drawn more to different professions based on their cho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 09:18 PM
12	Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and age Anecdotes sure. But I'm also going off what plenty of other women and men told me over the years offline and online. Right... that's still anecdotal evidence. I didn't probably StatusMax, Looksmax, or moneymax myself. And I assumed that it would be enough to go on without it and a world where most women find the majority of men boring and unnattractive. Dude... no. It's likely your personality and the fact that you seem to feel bitter towards women. Don't you think they can pick up that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 07:21 PM
3	Relatively speaking, loneliness is not worse for men because they do not need to be as social as women Why do you assume women value social interaction more than men do? Extraversion is a trait anyone can have, regardless of gender. I'm a woman... while I do have friends, I find socializing frequently to be overwhelming and exhausting, so I spend a lot of time alone, often playing video games, or with my SO (who drains very little social energy from me). I'm 100% fine with that. Loneliness sucks for everyone. But there are a lot of men hanging out in echo chambers filled to the brim of misogyny, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 07:08 PM
21	Women are too extremely fickle and flakey for regular guys to have a chance in this day and age it can be utterly confusing until we realize the innate nature of how women think. How would you know how women think? What makes you qualified to? Surely it isn't because of the PERSONAL EXPERIENCES of you and other men, right? Because no argument is valid if you can only find anecdotes to support your claims. Think of her emotions like a tank. While the tank is full, and she is talking to someone she is attracted to, she is on an emotional high. While in this state, she might think that you’re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/22 06:23 PM
5	Cheating by men can be done in a way to have zero PRACTICAL sacrifices with the relationship Yeah, I figured. It's not subtle. To answer his asinine question... yes. Equality certainly is needed in a relationship, even if it's not "demanded". How can anyone truly feel loved and supported if their spouse doesn't even see them as equal enough to even get their blessing to fuck other women after he literally vowed to be "faithful"? Healthy couples require respect for each other's feelings. OP clearly just doesn't give enough of a shit about those though. It makes me sad for her, and I ques…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/22 10:02 PM
6	Cheating by men can be done in a way to have zero PRACTICAL sacrifices with the relationship Do you call it "cheating" instead of "being in an open relationship" because your wife is actually really bothered by you sleeping around, and you want pretend like she isn't by saying she "understands" why you do it (even though it's not even remotely hard to understand that in the first place)? Or is it because you're not okay with your wife doing the exact same thing you're doing and you simply don't want to say that because you know you'll (justifiably) get criticized for it? Because those a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/22 05:06 PM
8	Cheating by men can be done in a way to have zero PRACTICAL sacrifices with the relationship [...] one big argument that women often have is "He broke the trust in the relationship, he lied to me, he did stuff behind my back, etc.". That can be avoided as well if you are honest about your strong desire (or whatever other arguments you might have) to sleep with another women. Saying you have a "strong desire" is not the same as saying that you'll sleep around and that she has to be okay with that. Your whole argument actually reads like: "I shouldn't have to be held accountable for my di…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/22 03:01 PM
4	Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behavior I don't deny that these women exist. I made that clear in my prior comment. No amount of anecdotal evidence is capable of "proving" a wild, sweeping generalization about an entire demographic. To argue that one man's statement that he "heard from people" who had "much shittier times with it" is "proof" of anything (other than the simple fact that women who act that way exist) is simply lazy. It is also disingenuous to claim that a comparison of how women feel about dating bi men and vice versa i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/22 01:57 AM
3	Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behavior This is what he said: I haven't had anything but support from basically 100% of people I've told and/or on Facebook. But I'd also say that our social circle is pretty much exclusively people who wouldn't be weird or shitty with me about it you know? I've definitely heard from people who had much shitter times with it I think I've just been very fortunate in that department" I'm not arguing there aren't women like that. Obviously there are. But a lot aren't, too. I also want to note... this often…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/22 12:46 AM
5	Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behavior That magazine survey is over 6 years old. I'm certain that there has been, at the very least, a slight increase in the amount of women who are fine with dating bi men since then. The 1,000 women who participated in the survey were likely exclusively readers of Glamour Magazine. It's a bit presumptuous to assume that this group accurately represents ALL women. Again, it's a survey. Not a scientific study. Even if we were to assume that the results truly reflect how women feel about bi men, (which…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/22 12:31 AM
8	Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behavior Another claim pulled out of thin air based on OP's personal experiences and responses from his own (undoubtedly limited) pool of peers... which is, yet again, assumed by some to be incontrovertible for some reason. Gotta love confirmation bias. Every woman is different; we like and dislike a wide variety of things in potential partner... because we are individual human beings. My bf is bi. He came out a few years into our relationship and has even had sex with men. And yet this has not changed m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/22 11:36 PM
4	Is being married to a person you do not love anymore really that bad? I'm truly sorry you feel that way, but I strongly disagree. If you don't believe love exists, what do you think people feel when they say they "love" or are "in love" with someone? There are a lot of physical and chemical interactions in the brain. Hormones are certainly a part of that too. But why would love not exist, even abstractly, as a result of those things? Every one of our thoughts and emotions comes from those same processes. Do you think happiness exists? Fear? Grief? Obviously, some …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/10/22 02:12 AM
3	Do women think they're with their partner mostly for his personality because they actually UNDERRATE their own partners attractiveness? ...lol. There are SO many reasons why a someone would want a divorce. It's quite a stretch to assume women file for divorce more because they aren't attracted to their husbands. Ridiculous claim.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 07:22 PM
4	Do women think they're with their partner mostly for his personality because they actually UNDERRATE their own partners attractiveness? Exactly. Treating interactions with potential partners like a game is misguided and naive; it really only shows the social and emotional immaturity of those who think like that. People aren't NPCs with mindless, preconstructed personalities and preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 05:18 PM
6	Do women think they're with their partner mostly for his personality because they actually UNDERRATE their own partners attractiveness? I strongly disagree. Attractiveness is partly based on a person's physical appearance, yes, but it's far from being everything. One's personality and experiences with a potential partner can drastically change how attractive they are to that person. I mean, people can literally develop romantic feelings for someone they didn't initially find attractive. I'd MUCH rather be with someone who isn't conventionally attractive but has a great personality than any hot dude with a shitty one. My SO proba…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 03:22 PM
2	The reason average men struggle to physically attract girls is because its only exceptional traits that even begin to arouse a woman, let alone not repulse them Sorry, but no. You have a very flawed and simplistic perception of what women find attractive. For both men AND women, there is obviously an "ideal" standard of attractiveness based on societal expectations and preferences. That has always been the case, and those same expectations and preferences change over time. No demographic is monolithic. Even women. I know plenty of women who are with—and attracted by—men who have the same physical qualities that you consider inferior. That includes men w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/10/22 02:31 PM
8	Women: What are manners you look for in men you are dating? showing kindness to both myself and those around him, especially those in the service industry saying please and thank you when appropriate being mindful and respectful of boundaries as someone else mentioned, even-tempered (for the most part) being able to admit when he's wrong, apologize, and adjust his behavior if necessary not being arrogant or self-centered.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/22 03:07 PM
6	When women say that they would prefer it guys were more honest about their intentions about sex, they are primarily using that as a trap. Exactly. It's not like the only two options are lying/using insidious language to manipulate her for sex and "Wanna be fuck buddies?"	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 11:21 PM
5	When women say that they would prefer it guys were more honest about their intentions about sex, they are primarily using that as a trap. That's not what I'm referring to either. If you tell a woman that you don't want a serious relationship but that it's possible one might develop despite the fact that it is highly unlikely, you are responsible for her false conclusions. That kind of statement implies that you go with the flow and that you are open to things evolving. If you AREN'T open to things evolving and instead want sex and only sex, you're being dishonest. It's a half-truth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 11:06 PM
8	When women say that they would prefer it guys were more honest about their intentions about sex, they are primarily using that as a trap. Some men plan to have a ONS from the get go with zero interest in contacting any of the women they sleep with ever again. Others are vehemently opposed to being in a relationship at all, or are completely aromantic. Those men aren't exactly going to stick around long enough for any romantic feelings to arise. Do you think it's okay for any of these men to imply that they MIGHT have a chance at developing a relationship despite the fact that the chance is extremely low? Because I don't. This is j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 10:54 PM
9	When women say that they would prefer it guys were more honest about their intentions about sex, they are primarily using that as a trap. If her desire to have sex with you depends on her belief that you are (or could be) interested in a relationship with her, it IS a trap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 10:01 PM
16	When women say that they would prefer it guys were more honest about their intentions about sex, they are primarily using that as a trap. In other comments, you said men should act in a way that is somewhere "in the middle" of lying about wanting to be in a romantic relationship and telling a woman they only wants sex. I fail to see how that wouldn't be another form of lying. If a man says, "I'm interested in sex now but we'll see where this goes" and he knows that he has no interest a relationship, that's manipulation. He is attempting to appear like he's open to a relationship, which effectively tricks the other person into thin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 09:58 PM
2	Women, can you share experiences of male partners opening up to you and you not losing attraction to them over it? I've been with my SO, who has severe depression and anxiety, for over 8 years. I have seen him sob, have anxiety attacks, talk about his childhood abuse, share his deep self-disparagement and shame. And he has been loving and open enough to allow me to share my darkest thoughts with him as well. It's a good balance, because I'm just as fucked up as he is. lol I still love him very, very much. It's important to me that he always feels cherished, validated and heard, because he is. I can't imagine…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 02:44 AM
1	Most women DO support men being more emotionally vulnerable and receiving support on and offline, but that doesn't excuse being a toxic cry baby with a victim complex You already deem them unworthy, otherwise you’d be in a relationship with one of them. lol what? There could be plenty of reasons why a woman isn't in a relationship with a man. Maybe they're already in relationships. Maybe they're gay. It certainly doesn't have to be that she deemed them "unworthy"... ffs They are basically girlfriends in male bodies. So... friends then? And? They don’t have to meet your Goldilocks standard of perfectly curated and balanced vulnerability. Nothing OP has said su…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 02:16 AM
2	Most women DO support men being more emotionally vulnerable and receiving support on and offline, but that doesn't excuse being a toxic cry baby with a victim complex So because people are having issues with distinguishing someone simply being emotional and vulnerable vs being emotionally toxic. Though I don't really like OP's use of the word "crybaby". These are some healthy ways of expressing emotions: sharing the effects of past trauma expressing anxiety about something going on in your life feeling "down" grief over someone or something lost opening up about mental health issues expressing that you feel self-conscious, disappointed, frustrated, ashamed, l…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/22 02:04 AM