starwatcher16253647 Archive

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1	Contrary to the sentiment here, progressive women should spend no more time catering to conservative men's feelings in an attempt to garner support for liberal causes. I get the logic; Trump is so beyond the pale bad it changes the rules, there will be alot of voters up for play in the center and center-right that normally wouldn't be. It's not even a ridiculous strategy. I was so-so if it would pan out. It's failed twice now between Hillary and Kamala so we know definitively conservatives have no standards of decency and we should never try and appeal to them. Like I said. Got to go big.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 03:16 PM
–	Contrary to the sentiment here, progressive women should spend no more time catering to conservative men's feelings in an attempt to garner support for liberal causes. Pretty much. We just had Harris spend the last month of her campaign with a Cheney trying to be miss moderate hoping that given the odious person that is Trump she could peel off reasonable decent conservatives. Turns out there aren't enough reasonable decent conservatives to matter. No the answer isn't to moderate and play nice. Take a leaf out of Trumps book; Ramp up hate and disdain to unfavored outgroups, blame them for all the problems no matter how ridiculous the logic, and overpromise big…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/24 07:51 AM
25	Society seems to believe that the average woman is entitled to her pick of the litter with men Trust me friend, if men were content to just be alone if they don't get a women of their wanted standards without making it everyone else's problem nobody would care. The whole reason the redpill, JD Vance, man-o-sphere crowd is so obsessed with attacking childless cat ladies is the anger they have about how at peace those women are compared to the cultural conservative incels.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/24 08:08 AM
1	What is something positive and healthy in your relationship that you appreciate? Or perhaps a trait in your partner/spouse that you value? There is this saying: "If you are the smartest person in a room you are in the wrong room." Well that definitely isn't me. I'm an EE and definitely can feel the differential between me and some of my coworkers and thus translates to me sometimes being insecure career wise. Probably doesn't help I get imposter syndrome being everyone else in the office came from decently cushy backgrounds while I'm from a broken home, was homeless a fair amount as a teenager, and was gang affiliated at 12. When i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/24 03:15 AM
5	Traditional relationships are not the nightmare for women that people make them out to be. How could you even know Amnish women are happy if their men can beat them? Apparently sexual abuse of Amnish children is a problem and I can gurantee in any world where that is a problem domestic abuse is also a problem. Anyways I digress that isn't even the main issue which is without independence and the ability to support yourself, something weirdos like J.D. Vance are attacking when they want to remove no-fault divorce, you don't have a partner you have a ruler. I don't want a ruler whether …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 04:14 PM
1	Doesn't Elon, Nick Cannon etc. prove that TRP is partially right about hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men? If we actually look at spaces where women have the freedom to choose and sharing partners is normalized, in the contemporary world those being polyamorous spaces, then according to survey data women have about 30% more partners than men. This idea men are trapped in singledom land because women are only interested in being hypergamous and it's only the relatively few high status men that garner attention is just wrong. Both men and women go for the best they can get, generally. The only real dif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/07/24 02:10 PM
9	Guy is bullied while on a date skit - thoughts on how it was handled? Some women want toxic masculinity, which is one of the reasons it sticks around.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/24 07:15 PM
3	Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men? They do to an extant, but when they do not it is mainly because women find being alone preferable. A low value man is not value add to their life. For men even a low value women is still a value add to their life. There probably isn't an easy single factor that is dispositive that can be proffered. This is an emergent outcome resulting from an ensemble of different decision making process in a wide variety of contexts measuring value in different ways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 02:57 PM
-1	The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice. Feminists are overwhelmingly on the left, it's the other people on the other side that believe more in hierarchies, meritocracy, and crudely put people that end up in the lower classes deserve it as that is just the natural result of their own sub-optimal actions. The left is more or less okay with all the welfare and all the redistribution.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/24 04:17 PM
16	Why men must never open up to women. Everything can be taken to far. If a women opens up and cries and yells some that is fine, but if she freaks out to the point she is throwing my shit in the yard and lighting it on fire I'm out of there. Nobody wants to deal with actually psychotic behavior, from men or women. I do think women can probably go a little more off the rails then a man get to before their partner disengages but that is only natural since men are a much larger threat to women than vice versa. Look I know this place li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 07:54 PM
–	Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own age I do tend to think most younger women want an older man, it's just to a 20 year old dating an older man means for them dating a guy who is like 28 max, and even then on the older side of that spectrum needs someone who because of fitness codes as younger than 28. In my late 20's I dated a fair number of early 20's girls but I was a gym rat that always got coded as a few years younger.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/24 03:43 PM
1	Flirting is a learned skill by men. I think the more relevant skill for women they have to learn is how to interact with men where most men at least won't think they are flirting with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 02:54 PM
4	The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all. Let me simplify: If your a 50th percentile man and you shoot for a higher than 50th percentile women you will have a hard time. You might eventually get lucky, but you run a real risk of celibacy. The reverse is true for women except celibacy it's more likely for you to get fucked and then thrown away. You can go on and on about it takes more effort to get to be in the 50th percentile as a man than it does as a women but that is because men seem more desperate to have a women than women do to ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/24 03:25 PM
1	Debate: I don't believe up to 3.7% of men raising children that are not theirs is an insignificant number, and here's why. Men and women are hurtful to each other all the time. The issue in question is paternity fraud which is indeed trivially true to prevent in the year of our lord 2024.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 08:50 PM
1	Debate: I don't believe up to 3.7% of men raising children that are not theirs is an insignificant number, and here's why. Some of my problem with Redpill is there is such a metric ton of whining and victim status claiming for what seems such trivial matters, things like mistaken paternity, alimony, being on the hook for child support despite not having a say in abortion. For mistaken paternity in particular this is such an easy thing to prevent this isn't some big societal problem worth commiserating on every 15 seconds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 02:47 PM
1	The whole “so you want women to date men they’re not attracted to“ is a deflection. Attraction is not static, but rather fluid and relative, and is directly proportionate to your options/abundance. Self-responsibility can be depressing, so?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/24 09:15 PM
15	The whole “so you want women to date men they’re not attracted to“ is a deflection. Attraction is not static, but rather fluid and relative, and is directly proportionate to your options/abundance. And it is a glorious trade well worth it. Half the population having autonomy > how active the dating marketplace is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/24 08:55 PM
11	The whole “so you want women to date men they’re not attracted to“ is a deflection. Attraction is not static, but rather fluid and relative, and is directly proportionate to your options/abundance. Never has so much been written for such a non-problem. I'm not even sure if true but even if so women's standards have risen and it becomes unrealistic for them to find a mate meeting those standards then they will end up alone and that is a-okay. Get a hobby and quit centering your self-worth about how many women you date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/24 08:52 PM
7	What US women want is a fantasy Men compete for status with each other with how we compare with each other in our romantic and sexual exploits with women. It's why so many men have a Madonna/Whore complex. We want women to be hard to get Madonnas for other men but easy whores for us. That way we get status in the eyes of other men for how much pull we have with hard to get women. Redpill and conservative guys seem to be alot more obsessed with projecting masculinity so it's no surprise they have bigger Madonna/Whore complexes …	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/24 02:28 PM
0	Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possible Amen my brother in Christ.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 03:01 PM
3	A number of women are creating co-housing situations and supportive communities.The women in these communities live pretty happily. Why aren’t red pill men doing the same? Doesn't really make a difference. Women can make do without those thirdspaces and men will either need to learn to bond without them like women do or recreate them for their own sake.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:18 PM
8	A number of women are creating co-housing situations and supportive communities.The women in these communities live pretty happily. Why aren’t red pill men doing the same? Women are responding to the decay of the social fabric far better than men, probably because men are losing their identity as the breadwinner and also being independent is seen as a more masculine trait so men are less likely to go and seek emotional support than women. Many men need things like bowling and fantasy football leagues as a sort of front for getting male-male bonding without admitting the need for it. Women aren't central to men's world, and doubly so for redpill types. Women are ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 11:06 PM
3	Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him. Men need to work more for sex, women for relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/24 10:45 PM
5	What's wrong with being a cuck? I also come pretty skeptical of cuckolding as a safe kink. I once with my wife had a threesome with a girlfriend of hers, and her girlfriend kept responding favorably as I got rougher and more dominant, so I went further that way then I normally do. For weeks after my wife couldn't keep her hands off of me. She explicitly told me seeing me dominate her friend made me seem more masculine and attractive. The thing is I knew, the wife knew, and so did her friend that it was all an act. I wasn't act…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 01:46 PM
3	What's wrong with being a cuck? So I'm polyamorous and have and have had long term girlfriends in the past and my wife has had boyfriends and girlfriends in the past as well. In those spaces OPP, or one penis policies, and as the name suggests it means only women are allowed to be slept with outside the original relationship are considered taboo. There was a man struggling with him wanting an open relationship but also wanting an OPP and his wife not agreeing to an OPP. I thought maybe explaining why he thought as he did might…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 01:20 PM
1	Men should want to have lesbian besties like women have gay besties I wouldnt call it a need but is a benefit. Lesbian women have been pretty good wingman in my expierences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 11:46 AM
6	Men should want to have lesbian besties like women have gay besties Lol no. Just no. One of the reasons men are having problems right now is they aren't responding to the disintegration of thirdspaces as well as women as men need those social connections just as much as women just men have a harder time admitting it. Men traditionally have used things like social clubs, think a bowling club or fantasy football league, as an excuse to get that social bonding they need without having to admit the need of it. One of the reasons we get women absconding from relation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 11:44 AM
1	A good way to incentivize more women to have children. Would be guaranteeing that women could continue to chase their dreams as well. You would probably need some sort of affirmative action and quota system for women that had children under some age cutoff. Considering how affirmative action is deeply unpopular with half the nation, with another third or so merely lukewarm at the idea, I don't see this as politically feasible. Direct payments could maybe work as well but I don't see that happening considering just recently Biden's child tax credit was allowed to expire. Maybe in another decade or so after continuing to fall bi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/24 07:23 PM
2	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. Fair enough. I dont particularly care the relative likelihood of being single vs. settling down is. Also as Ive said elsewhere I hold pretty much zero stock in the mastabutory incel revenge revolution fantasies sometimes posted around here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 01:27 PM
0	Spouse First or Parent First Children come first, but its better for the children if needed relationship maintainence is done to keep the relationship healthy. I view these things as more synergistic then in competition with each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 04:31 AM
2	Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. This is a self-correcting problem. If women are too picky and only shooting their shot with men they can't get to commit then they wont find a stable relationship and as they age their standards will have to drop. If they never drop their standards then they will be an old alone cat lady. As younger women see a big glut of old cat women, presumably, that will be a warning to lower their standards and things will find a new equilibrium. I really dont see a problem here. No one is entitled to a re…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 04:14 AM
–	Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of men Oh please, I dont want them to have to be killed off, merely pointing out how this "incel revenge revolution is a real threat so society better change to coddle us" is a mastabutory revenge fantasy and nothing but because society historically doesn't change to acquiesce to low status mens threats. It eliminates them. Sometimes through a penal system. Sometimes how Russia is doing it right now, getting insecure men through targeted PR campaigns to believe that pit of insecurity they have will fin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 01:39 AM
–	Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of men I imagine monogamy will stay the societal default for some time if not forever. The point being redpill is ruining young men such that women are dating me as my third then them as their first. Redpill doesnt only not help it obviously and strongly makes men worse and less attractive, almost all of the time. Better to wallow in the dark forest stumbling about in the dark than follow the will-o-wisp that is redpill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/24 01:05 AM
–	Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of men Do we have data? Now its possible my anectdotal expierence cant be generalized because Im polyamorous and nowadays Im mainly in those spaces for things like mixers, but I have noticed in those spaces there does seem to be a feast or famine thing going on. You are either polyaturated with no more free time for another relationship or sort of stuck with no additional partners. I will note though for at least most men they at least have a main nesting partner so there we are ending up alot more ega…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 08:42 PM
–	Q4men who believe in the 80/20 rule: What's unfair about casual sex only being available for the top 20% of men I mean we will just do what we always do with low status men. We will push them off to the edges of society for being a pain in the ass and if neccessary kill them off. Literally all of history is high status men making alliances and buying off medium status men to dispose of low status men. Now that women have a fair amount of agency and power in society I imagine it will be easier than ever before. I say with all sincerity to young bitter redpill incels, either get with the program, or at leas…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 08:33 PM
–	I think some men are jealous of women with high body count… because it means they have more life experience than them. Hmm. I disagree. Generally I dont think that men consider themselves in competition with women. They are in competition with other men. Plus the type your thinking of will really be into that thought process involving shitty locks and master keys.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 07:14 PM
8	One of the factors of the male loneliness epidemic: women not dating down emotionally So the problem here is women are responding to the disintegration of thirdspaces far better than men. This has nothing to do with different waves of feminism but that the world has changed in ways deleterious to more conservative forms of masculinity that is making men that adhere to those standards worse. Women when lonely dont seem to feel shame at admitting that and reaching out to allevate that problem, at least relative to men. Men on the other hand have a harder time admitting that need be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 01:29 AM
–	Bear discourse has show us women dont care about the results. Women care about the feeling. The only people that come off looking good here are those that dont engage. Either the woman for choosing bear or the men so fragile this bothers them. Why am I commenting here again?	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 02:37 PM
3	Why is cold approaching seen as a "better" alternative to dating apps? I think alot of men's problems would be alleviated quite abit by just not being so concerned if a women laughs, ridiculues, or acts put upon when you approach her. Like its really not that big a deal. I've had some awkward moments, and just moved on. Also a fair number of dates. Mind you this is all cold approaching too. If you put some effort into expanding your social circle and hobbies warm approaching is even easier. Keep swinging and bat will connect to ball soon enough. If anything it seem…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/24 04:49 AM
1	The red pill has gained momentum because a bunch of mid guys who are mad they won't be first choice are trying to logic women into being attracted to them. So ... feminists and this man-o-sphere/Redpill, for lack of a better term, are both right just the spheres they are each right in don't have alot of overlap. Feminism instead of Red-pill started back in the day because there was more of a need for it. Now Red-pill is starting because traditional masculinity is more and more becoming incongruent with the modern world and it is profitable to give young men bad advice they want to hear instead of good advice they dont. Some of those points being ..…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/24 04:29 PM