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19	Attraction and mentally ill woman	Discussion	stats135	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/18 02:09 AM

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–	Do you like someone more when they're exceptional at things you're deficient in, or when they're similar at things you're exceptional in? I prefer where we have similar values, but different complementary skillsets. When I bring home the bacon, I want someone who is good at cooking. The skillset is different, but we both agree we want bacon in our lives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/26 03:16 PM
3	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men. Nope	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/26 03:27 AM
23	Men place women on a pedestal and in doing so they start to hate women for any show of humanity. The blame isn't on your "intuition" it is on you risk taking. You don't need "intuition" to know that the safe boring nice guy is going to have a lower likelihood or abuse and cheating. Too often women choose to go for the bad boy instead and shock pikachu they get abused or cheated on. If you drive a car at .5 speed limit with your seat-belt on and die in a car accident you have my condolences. If ride a motorbike 2x speed limit and die in an accident, thank god someone more worthy can finally …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/26 04:07 PM
16	What explains the difference in how some men respond to authority, admiration, and emotion when it comes from women versus other men. Some men dismiss women's opinions, but if another man says the exact same thing, suddenly it's taken seriously. Its a matter of what is backing those opinions. As an overarching principle, I do NOT respect emotions. I find that women appeal to emotion way more often than men. It is "Stop doing that, I don't LIKE it". Worse still women tend to appeal to others emotions, like "Stop doing that, others don't like it". For men it is grounded on the physical and tangible. It is "Stop doing that, peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/26 02:08 PM
6	When (and if) unattractive men get money and status as they get older, what happens? Financial success is not guaranteed with age. While not impossible, the reality is that most men do not become wealthy by 40. It certainly is more likely for the manosphere demographic. I mean the whole RP originated around AlphaFuxBetaBux. RP is full of reformed Beta Bux. Second, even for the rare few who do achieve CEO status and wealth, what is the actual reward? They attract gold diggers, partners who fake initial intimacy to ensnare them, devoid of genuine attraction. After they have secure…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/26 02:04 PM
15	What do you think of Orion Taraban? I don't think he has any revolutionary idea or perspective, but he is pretty damn good at articulating what every other man knows to be true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/26 03:26 AM
9	Passport Broing should be illegal and/or heavily regulated None of these arguments hinge on passport bro-ing, they all hinge on wealth. In effect what you are arguing for is to ban mating across economic classes and that it is somehow immoral for a man to promise a woman a better life in exchange for her to enter a sexual relationship with him because there's no raw attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/26 03:51 PM
0	How you got into this sub and what factors help people be more understanding and self aware and better with dating dynamic, expectations, experience and all? Its hard for me to pinpoint a start time. In a sense, I had always had these ideas in my mind. I was always obsessed with efficiency and aspired to be logical. If I really had to point to a beginning to my journey it would be when Freakonomics came out. It was the first major publication I was aware of that validated my views that EVERYTHING can and should be viewed in an economics lens. From then on I never looked at "dating", I looked up "sexual marketplace". There aren't that many subs that u…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/26 02:11 AM
1	Too many men treat women like 'final boss' of the video game called life. This causes low self worth which ironically impacts dating negatively 🫠 They aren't the final boss, they are worse than that. A final boss you can beat it and be done with it. With sexual relationships with women, there is no end in sight. If you need credentials/education, go to college and 4 years later you are done. It will forever be on you resume. If you need money you just need to grind for a decade or few but ultimately hit enough saving to live by the 4% rule and you are done for life. But if you want lifelong sexual relationships, you work lifelong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/26 04:39 PM
1	How many would you say there are genuinely good guys Last I checked something like 1 in 3 Americans have a criminal record. I'm sure there are good people in there that made mistakes, and there are bad people who just didn't get caught. I'm thinking they cancel out, and will say 2/3 of men are good men. I'd define having your shit together as meaning you don't struggle to finance basic living. Last I checked something like 70 percent of Americans struggle. Put the two together and you get 2/3 x 30% = 20% of men are good AND have their shit togethe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/06/26 02:24 PM
3	Men need to learn from women how to actually fight a culture war if they want to win The issue is that women are emotional, so making emotional arguments is fighting on home turf, whereas men are logical so making emotional arguments is competing on enemy territory. Yes, the media favors emotional arguments, but its just not wise for men to play to what are women's strength and men's weakness. Men need to find a counter to women's strategies, not fight fire with fire where men would always be on the back foot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/26 01:24 AM
5	Why are you not religious? You make it sound like its bad to be SK or JP. As an atheistic RP man I would actually put those countries closer to role models for the world than cautionary tales.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:44 PM
10	Why are you not religious? why not at least support or promote it? I find it weird that the question is "why not" and not "why". It shifts the default position. My default is to not actively support or promote any institution or individual. Yes, religion shares some of my values. But that alone is not enough to justify supporting it. For one it is inefficient. I can support my values directly and have 100% of it go to what I want it to go towards, whereas when supporting religion only a fraction of my support goes to what…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/26 03:16 PM
-6	The stigma around financially-providing relationships I guess we've finally reach the point where a traditional breadwinner/housewife dynamic is "alternative lifestyle"	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/26 02:31 PM
1	Men Care Way Too Much About Female Validation I'm sure they both might have some impact on some men, but I'm in the camp that being WITH attractive women trumps being attractive TO women by a country mile. So much so, that how you achieve it is mostly irrelevant. I know for a fact if I win the equity lottery and my stocks go to the moon, I sure as hell aint wasting a single second on attracting women, I'll just make it rain so that I can spend every second serviced by attractive women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/26 02:55 AM
8	Men Care Way Too Much About Female Validation I guess it can just as easily be the other way around. Whenever you are out doing the monkey dance to attract women, it's a reminder that you have so little earning power that you can't afford to just pay for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 07:31 PM
27	Men Care Way Too Much About Female Validation I feel like there is a huge class component to it. Its one of those acceptable if you are rich, unacceptable if you are poor type of thing. We get "scandals" of pro athletes and billionaires paying for sex all the damn time. You might get some Karens on X bitching about it, but for the most part these men don't think they are "degrading themselves" or anything remotely problematic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/26 03:53 PM
4	Your social circle is not a representative sample of either gender there are differences in dating culture between countries, locations Correct. This is why we have passport bros advocating for moving countries/locations. I think the problem here is just how far away from your own environment you need to go before your prospects meaningfully change. If the supply and demand of a certain ideal is not in your favor in your zip code, its most likely not going to be in your favor one zip code over, or even one city over. That type of dating arbitrage just doesn't e…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/26 09:36 PM
-9	If red flags are so easy to spot, then there's no need for prenups and paternity tests Yes, the logic stands. Beta men are stupid fucks that allowed themselves to be trapped in a BP narrative and used by women. I can look back at myself 10 years ago and tell you honest to god that man was a imbecile who can't see a red flag at a communist parade. Now I would love for the retarded bitches here to acknowledge that they are 100% at fault for going with the Chad bastard and not choosing Billy the accountant down the floor instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 11:51 PM
4	Men love women as possessions they don't give a shit about women's humanity I love how whenever women talk about "humanity" they then go on to list things that have fuck all to do with what makings someone a human BEING. Men don't care about women's careers, achievements, intelligence None of this shit has anything to do with human BEING, and all to do with human DOING. Women love men as success object and for what men can DO and redefine "humanity" to justify women's preferences and demonizes men's. If a man DOES nothing, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/26 01:51 PM
5	There are some who claim the pills are not political but that seems ignorant at least. What makes you believe that RP men are underestimating politics and not you overestimating it? I know most RPers don't care about "Making America Great Again" because so many RP men aren't even American. I still remember when I moved from my landlocked state to California to enter the workforce. I immediately met a melting pot of foreign workers. Russian, Chinese, Indian, you name it. It immediately opened my eyes that BP women's view are actually the outlier, not RP men's	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/26 03:58 PM
2	Hypothetical choice of daily visitor: You can only pick one. As the saying goes, you never know the value of something until you stop having it. When I'm not having sex, I know how high the value of sex is. When I stopped socializing, I learned, how low the value of human interactions are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 01:50 PM
2	Hypothetical choice of daily visitor: You can only pick one. A. Lacking sex is orders or magnitude worse. I don't even need to ask myself hypothetically, I can just draw on experience. As fate would have it, I moved for a new job right before COVID. I had exact zero sex and exactly zero human interaction for the whole pandemic saga. The thirst for sex wrecked me. It was constant, consistent misery. The hunger for human connection faded within the first few weeks. I was actually more annoyed than relieved when the lockdowns ended and human interacts came b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/26 01:09 AM
9	Men Confuse Women Wanting Confident Men With Wanting “Assholes” Women always complain about men. The difference is that Women complain about toxic men... after they fuck them. Women complain about nice guys after they decide they would never fuck them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/26 02:58 PM
-1	Should women reject men that don’t treat them like they would a top 1% Stacy? how fundamentally the years can change you. Oh, we know that the years can change a woman, we are just saying that they change women for the worse, into a woman that treats their man worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/26 01:46 AM
12	How do you feel about being a “shallow” woman’s enthusiastic minimum? I'm a behavioralist in this regard. I don't care about the internal state, I care about outward behavior. If she is talking, acting, fucking with enthusiasm, then there is literally no problem. It is only a problem in the sense that it might make cause her to change her outward behavior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/26 08:08 PM
38	Why do (some!!) men that sex robots/robot gfs will be a legitimate replacement for real romantic relationships with a human women? I might need to come back to link the "Harry, You Don't Need to Sell It To Me" meme. If you have a robot gf, you’re really going out on dates together? No more paying 400% margins on food for dinner dates, I can go home to my robot-cooked meal. Posting together on Instagram? No more dealing with women infected by social media mind-viruses. Bringing her to the work holiday party or to family gatherings? As your plus-one to a wedding? No mother in law or extended family to deal with Like seriously…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 10:59 PM
1	What is it like wanting female validation badly “Female validation” is a means to an end, not the end itself. I want “female validation” in the same way I want a “good job.” What I really want is financial security, a state where I don’t have to stress about money. A good job is simply the mechanism that provides that income. Similarly, what I really want is sexual security, a state where, just as I don’t worry about how to keep my stomach full, I also don’t have to worry how to keep my balls empty. Did it happen at the onset of puberty or wa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/26 06:40 PM
1	What do you value? B is a must right off the bat, so the question is really just option 1 or 3, and that really depends on how financially (un)stable we are talking about. I mean if I'm gonna need to work two 8 hour shifts a day to make ends meet, then it doesn't really matter how much I like her company, since I'd never have time to enjoy it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/03/26 05:55 PM
2	Hypothetical for RP men not Christian, not of the same race as us. One thing that I lament the most in the US is that traditional = Christian, when that doesn't have to be the case. It could just as easily be that being traditional is simple due to familial upbringing and societal shaming instead of religion. I've only seen this in Asians, hence the specific girl I had in mind. I'll admit I have limited exposure here though. Unless some passport bros can chime in on how women are outside the US.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/26 04:52 PM
3	Hypothetical for RP men What you see isn't the most representative, given how n-count discussions are explicitly banned around these parts. So a lot of discussions just end up using proxies. Personally I choose the 30yo. Reason 1: I categorically refuse to allow myself to be charged full price by someone who gave it for free to others. I am not paying for a ring and wedding for what others got for free. Reason 2: Marriage is about sexual pair bonding. A promiscuous women likely does not pair bond sexually. If she did s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/26 03:56 PM
–	Do you prefer a high maintenance relationship with someone better looking than you, or a low maintenance one with someone you’re better looking than? Sure they gain some positive, but not enough to compensate for the loss in youthful attractiveness, and certainly not to the point where I would sustain a relationship with high maintenance	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/26 08:10 AM
–	Do you prefer a high maintenance relationship with someone better looking than you, or a low maintenance one with someone you’re better looking than? The average man starting college is going to be less attractive than the average woman starting college. The average man starting to collect social security is going to be more attractive than the average woman starting to collect. There is a difference in how men and women age in respect to attractiveness. Of course both men and women lose attractiveness with age, but women more so than men. This is true when speaking strictly physically, and is even more true when we take into account how much…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/26 08:04 AM
–	Do you prefer a high maintenance relationship with someone better looking than you, or a low maintenance one with someone you’re better looking than? Option 1. My main issue here is that women lose more value with time. If a women is less attractive than me even before the relationship, i shudder to think how "attractive" she would be as time goes by. Best to enter a relationship where I put in a bit more effort for a woman that is a bit more attractive than me, and have the relationship slowly transition to her putting in more effort to keep me around as she becomes a bit less attractive than me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/26 05:55 AM
1	Let’s talk about sex The best distinction for human needs that I subscribe to is innate vs acquired needs. Sex is an innate, biogenic, "natural" drive, like hunger and thirst. It is not acquired and developed through intellectual growth. The importance here is on the drives themselves, not the underlying evolutionary reasoning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/26 05:19 PM
2	How many of the large red pill influencers are actually just trolls? I'd imagine about the same as health influencers, or investment influencers. For every Charlie Munger, there's a youtube's worth of crypto scammers. Investing, just like TRP, will yield you orders of magnitude more success that the AFC, but you need to be very selective on what advice you take off social media.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/26 04:35 AM
1	Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ? Look, if we died, today, the world would spin as it always have. The only reason living is a need is that I have a biological drive that considers survival to be a need. The same way that I have a biological drive that considers sex to be a need.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 05:47 PM
3	Do men not seek companionship out of a relationship ? If that's the case, what's the reasoning ? Men often can not satisfy their base physiological needs of sex in Maslow's heirarchy Until that need is met, they cannot progress to the less important needs of love/ belonging. This is not because men have lower needs for companionship, but because men have a much higher need for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/26 04:51 PM
3	Being Yourself is at Least 50% Having a Backbone If you let your girlfriend make you quit certain hobbies ... I think this is the opposite of what people find problematic about "be yourself" Men around these parts aren't stopping certain hobbies they like for their women. They are starting hobbies they don't like to attract women. So "being yourself" to them means "stop doing the things you hate" not "start doing things you love"	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/26 11:00 PM
–	“Red Pill Accuracy vs Seeing Women’s Full Past: Which Would Break You?” I feel like there's some paradox of skill if every man is full Redpill. Once every man has it, no man has an advantage. So having full visibility of women would be the one I'd choose for every man to have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/26 08:12 AM
-1	Do you think the patriarchy was a more balanced system than what we have today? Why are women so keen on ignoring the sufferings of men?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 03:43 PM
-7	Do you think the patriarchy was a more balanced system than what we have today? I don't know why Red Pillers are so keen on ignoring the historical oppression of women when it's a very ahistorical take. We can ask the same question. Why are women so keen on ignoring the sufferings of men? Red Pillers do not agree that women have been disproportionately fucked over, not because we ignore women's past suffering, but because we know past men suffered equally if not more. Just as women have suffered worldwide, so has men. I remember learning of an old poems from the Ancient Chi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/26 08:10 AM
5	Men Need to Stop Debating Women and do the Work Stop Debating Women You learn this by finding a mentor The TLDR of the post is basically "Don't ask fish for advice on catching fish, ask a fisherman".	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/26 07:43 PM
1	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? There is a huge different between recognizing that a group is different and hating them for it. Saying "women are weaker" or "women have lower sex drive" is sexist. Hating women because of it is misogyny. Saying "men have higher sexual needs" is sexist. Hating men for having a higher sex drive and valuing sex more is misandry. I'd say most people would benefit from being more sexist, not more hateful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/26 01:36 AM
2	Are we often mistaking selfishness for sexism in women and men? I'd say its the opposite, people seem selfish because they aren't sexist enough. We all start off with the golden rule. When we want someone to share, we offer to share. Its just that with sex, many men realize them offering to share their body, does not get women to offer to share their body in return. Women actually say this is a scenario where the men is offering nothing. The problem here is the man isn't sexist enough. He didn't realize that women on the whole are different to men, want diff…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 07:24 PM
-1	How would you live if you decided not to ever use contraception, birth control, sex toys or any synthetic/human-made sex-related technology? Just you, no other products at all. I'd need to relocate . I heard of a religious land where this happens, where men have multiple wives so they always have a backup if one gets pregnant, and low investment per children since the sheer number of them would make it the only option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/26 07:12 PM
20	If you want someone to choose you, bring what they want to the table There's the issue of basic supply and demand. By definition men are mostly interested in male dominated niches. Narrowing down to a niche where the dating pool is a 10-to-1 male-to-female ratio is going to result in failure for 9 out of 10 men. You say "examine your standards" but that is what men are doing when they switch to a broader market. They have failed when they narrowed down to their "type", so they dropped that standard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/26 03:57 AM
35	One of my fundamental grievances with TRP is that it kinda makes you frame your life around your appeal and ability to find/keep a relationship You think RP people frame their lives around relationships, because you project a slice of their life to their whole life. If you saw me at the gym, you'd think I frame my whole life around health and fitness. If you saw me at the office, you'd think I frame my whole life around money and career. If you saw me in a RP setting, you'd think I frame my whole life around sexual relationship. Hell, if you saw me playing video games, you'd think I was a no-life degen gamer. I think this error in judge…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/25 07:38 AM
5	Men have inexplicably rejoiced in their own subjugation - but only selectively they treat women like royalty in person, but they certainly don’t vote that way There's a world of difference between me investing resource to do something, and the government taxing me to do something. I would easily spend double on others if I hold the discretion on WHO actually gets the money. I would rather double my expenditures in respect to women, than give what I do now to the government with respect to women. I need to hold the discretion WHICH women gets those resources. I can give up …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/25 05:08 PM
17	Why are Red Pillers so obsessed with status? There's really no winning here. Men would be considered losers whether they strive to acquire money and status or not, whether you do it for the intrinsic value or extrinsic value. I'm not working for money or status. Just gonna stay home, make myself a cuppa, and watch youtube. = lazy bum Go out and work for money and status. And do it for the intrinsic value. = Obsessed with status and material wealth Go out to acquire money and status, And do it for the extrinsic value such as attracting wome…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/25 05:28 PM
3	The availability of legal sex work challenges whether “incel” is still a meaningful term. Or is “incel” just a word that describes: men who cannot get sex for free Sex is NEVER free. If that was the definition, every man is an incel. Its a matter of affordability. If a man can't afford the social, sexual, financial Capital to get laid, he is an incel. Escorts, OnlyFans meetups, sugar arrangements, massage parlors, casual encounters, nightlife, dating apps, or traveling to places where sex work is normalized. Escorts and massage parlors? Illegal. If this counts, then might as well say…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 11:50 PM
8	Is Anyone Red Pill and Politically Left-Wing at the Same Time? Well we're gonna need definitions of what left and right means. I'm basically that guy in the meme where a center-left man over the decades becomes center-right now because the political left keeps moving farther from the center. If the Democratic Party would have backed Bernie Sanders or Andrew Yang, I'd have voted blue. Sadly they decided on Kamala and Hillary.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/25 04:32 AM
3	Demographics does matter for men when it comes to dating This is just geomaxxing or passportbro-lite. Yes, the average man making average money in San Francisco, could have marginally better outcomes with women in a regional city in flyover country. But at that point, might as well go all the way and get the passport. Its ever better results with women, with even more favorable conditions regarding finances and competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/25 01:24 AM
3	If you are a “nice guy”, you cannot just choose to become an “asshole” If I can faking being a corporate goon in the office for 8+ hours a day 5 days a week for a pittance of a salary, then I can fake it long term for the physiological need of sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/25 05:04 PM
0	In what situations would you classify a man as a "beta"? Can you really call someone who's simply happily married to the woman of his dreams... a beta? Yes. His subjective feeling, has no bearing on our objective designation for him. A happy beta is still a beta. I also think it's basically impossible to define a contrastive concept like beta by itself. It needs the opposite to be meaningful. The best I can relate being beta to is being negatively discriminated. It is fine to tell everyone to sit in the back of the car. But if you tell a group of peop…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/25 08:03 PM
3	What is your goal in dating? Yes physiological needs trump safety needs. I can just spend every day in the safety of my own home, in my low crime rate zip code. But I don't. I often travel to where there is higher crime rates, putting my finances, my health, and my life at a higher risk, for the sole reason of satisfying my physiological needs. I know full well, that in my pursuit of sex, I'm risking STIs, #metoos, divorce rapes, etc. I know they translate to lifelong health issues, criminal records, financial ruin, and so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/25 05:01 PM
4	What is your goal in dating? My goal in dating is the same as my goal in life, and that for me is just Maslow's heirarchy The highest priority, the nonnegotiable, is the physiological needs of food and sex. As the saying goes I need someone to keep my stomach full and my balls empty. Then I need the safety and security, to know that she would not lead to ruin, financial or otherwise. The cherry on top, the stretch goal, would be to be loved, and respected, and the best in me brought out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/25 11:42 AM
2	Men are delusional about how many bad men are out there How'd you get to that conclusion? Men's attractiveness has a lot to do with his personality. It just so happens the personality that would lead to him being attractive to the modern women is highly correlated with a personality that would not treat her well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/25 06:47 PM
12	Men are delusional about how many bad men are out there And that creates a narrative that attractive guys will always behave like that, average guys are always pleasant, and it's a woman's mistake that she goes for attractive guy Always? NO More often than not? Absolutely. Too often women refuse to acknowledge this, and use it as justification. Even in this post you have not clearly stated this as a statistical truth. We see this too many times. "Oh well, since ALL men have equal likelihood of being bastards anyways, might as well go for the hottest …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/25 06:24 PM
3	The blue pill gives you a better shot at happiness, for less cost, than the red pill. Everything is about "performing" for (what the red pill says is) the female gaze No Redpiller is drinking his morning coffee for the female gaze. No Redpiller is laying on his lazy chair in front of his console for women. You say "Everything" because men merely enjoying their life are invisible to you. It is only when men work their ass off that you even register that they exist. Redpillers doesn't do everything to perform. Redpillers only clarifies what does and doesn't get you laid. So you can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/25 04:30 PM
0	Do you believe your life holds value simply because you exist? Simply because I exist? Absolutely not. If mere existence was valuable then I'd just work to maximize quantity of life. Because I don't think mere existence hold value, I have done things that risk lowering quantity of life for quality. And the quality I most optimize for is pleasure. That is what ultimately has value. If I was offered the choice to half my remaining lifespan, but double the amount of culinary delight, carnal indulgence, and overall pleasure, I'd take the deal in a heartbeat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/11/25 07:01 AM
1	Are you afraid of being alone in your twilight years? NO. I am somewhat scared of the "growing older" part, in the sense that I realize I am but a mortal, but the "alone" part doesn't really get me. Even the growing old part, doesn't scare me all that much just because I have a fairly optimistic outlook for technology. The sweet embrace of death is gonna take a few decades for me. I very much expect AI and robotics to advance enough to suit my needs that many decades down the line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/11/25 04:00 AM
2	Do you actually feel comforted by the "you dodged a bullet" mentality? No. If she's hot, she's worth taking the bullet to fuck. If she's not hot, I have no loss that need comforting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/25 05:05 AM
2	Are there any positives to usual porn consumption? Yes. The worst I've heard porn compared to is that it is like drugs. But lets remember even drugs have their use cases. It is standard practice to prescribe painkillers and the like if you have chronic pain. If there is nothing wrong with you, then there is indeed no good reason to take it, but if there is, then you take these drugs for as long is it takes until the cause of the pain is cured. Porn serves a similar role. Porn help alleviate the unbearable suffering of sexlessness. If you can hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/25 04:50 PM
–	Do any other men feel exhausted with the constant materialistic treadmill dating imposes on us? Yes. As the funny because its true joke goes, " if a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house." It might be a bit extreme for comedic effect, but I'm certainly one of those Guys that can Live In Apartments Like This and not see a problem. Any time I go out to spend money its for the sole purpose of women. I'd probably be r/FIRE in a few years, if I had just invested the money instead of wasting so much of it on what women want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/25 06:42 AM
1	If you became the opposite gender, what would you want to look like, what sort of life career and relationships would you pursue? Changing gender won't change what I want in life. I want it to be full of sex with beautiful women and to live an easy life. How would you want to look? So I would want to have the looks to attract beautiful lesbian women. I suspect that means I'll need to be conventionally attractive. Which would be great since last I looked at the studies being unattractive had equal or more detrimental to life outcomes than being of the wrong race or nationality. Wash sort of career would you want? I don't "w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/25 06:28 AM
12	Its interesting how advice that amounts to “write your own path to success” is met with hostility in male dominated spaces less sexual security, it also means you have the space to explore and learn what might make you happy. Well I've already learned what might make me happy. Its happens to be sex, the very sexual security that these alternative paths of success results in less of.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/25 06:54 AM
11	Is being a "passportbros" really a bad thing? I just don't see how its different than relocating for anything else. Some people relocate to where they have better career prospects. Some people travel for better healthcare. Some desire to passportbro to where there are better women. The reason some people have issues with this is because of the value statement behind it. They thinks its fine to say America has better jobs. Its fine to say America has worse healthcare. But they are not fine with saying America has worse women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/25 04:02 AM
0	Redpillers I know IRL are losers Most people have something going on their lives. Correct. But it usually mean they have some good thing and some bad thing, and they just cancel out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/25 06:14 AM
10	Redpillers I know IRL are losers I somewhat agree here, but with two HUGE caveats. As others have said here, these are just normal people, not "losers". Last I checked, something like 70% of Americans are overweight and can't afford $1000 for an emergency. So not being in shape, being okay looking, and holding a boring job is just your average joe. There is the issue of time horizon. Most of the time the reason they are the way they are, is because they have no incentive structure to be otherwise. They (mistakenly) thought "bei…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/25 04:27 AM
1	You have two options - which one would you go for? There is a huge difference with being vs doing. Monogamous isn't something I have to do. I don't have to spend a single dollar or calorie or second doing anything. I'm not so handsome, that I'd have to actively swat women away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/25 06:40 PM
2	You have two options - which one would you go for? Option 2. I'd rather get a free Uber ride once a week than have a Ferrari that won't let me get inside. A woman that won't open her legs for me is as good as a car that I can't open the doors to. Here being promiscuous isn't a problem. Only AFBB is. I refuse to pay full price for what other men can fuck for free. In this case I'm not paying anything. No marriage, no boyfriend duties, no problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/25 05:39 PM
11	How does RedPill actually make you feel better about life/help you? You are evaluating RP off of a trivial, irrelevant metric. It's like asking why go to work when the office chair is less comfortable than the sofa at home. Its just not part of the calculus. Think Maslow's heirarchy . My first concern is physiological. I need food, water, sex, air. Then it is security, of body, of resources, of property. It is only after these basic needs are satisfied, will any of the luxuries you listed ever matter. And RP is the most effective in getting those basic needs of …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/25 12:11 AM
8	A lot of you have really conflicting values. What are your core preferences? Reminds me of an old Asian parent derp comics. Parent of 18 yo women: "I'll disown you if you're dating a man" Parent of 23 yo women: "Hurry up! Where are my grandkids?" I need to find myself some Asian parent-in-laws.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/25 03:08 AM
–	Q4RP - do you wish you believed in the BP? Better than when I was BP, worse than I want to be. Thats all I can say since that's the only reference point I have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 04:14 PM
2	[Q4RP] have you ever wavered on your RP beliefs after becoming RP, maybe even gone BP before coming back? I guess I don't understand what makes it bad when one women is fat and old and not when the other is It is always bad. Its just that some women have characteristics that more than compensate for it, and others do not. And a woman being a pure, submissive housewife more than compensates. why marry at all When the pros outweigh the cons. Its not like I reinvented the wheel here. Even Charles Darwin made such a list. There are massive cons to marriage. The "fatness and idleness" and “conversation o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 04:22 AM
7	Q4RP - do you wish you believed in the BP? do you wish the blue pill matched your reality Not anymore. I was bluepill for years. I was a nice guy all through high school. No women. I was a good man in college. Didn't get laid. I was an upstanding member of society after graduating. No bitches. Blue pill destroyed close to a decade of my life. I've suffered years of miserable sexless existence. So I changed. I turned to redpill. It was effort. It was pain. It was frustration. The transition was brutal. But I did it, and I've been redpill …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 03:55 AM
3	[Q4RP] have you ever wavered on your RP beliefs after becoming RP, maybe even gone BP before coming back? So of your goal is marry Not just marriage, but specifically marriage 1.0. The one where women saved themselves before meeting the man she marries, and acting as angel of the house after getting married. If I am ever blessed with such a relationship then I want to follow the marriage 1.0 vow of til death do part. This circles back to fundamental values that I will not waver on. I refuse, over my dead body, to be the victim of AFBB. Being the man (Beta) that gets hitched to a woman that balloons …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 03:41 AM
3	[Q4RP] have you ever wavered on your RP beliefs after becoming RP, maybe even gone BP before coming back? I have never wavered in what I VALUE. But I have flip-flopped on what the best approach to get it is. Like no amount of brainwashing is gonna make a post wall land whale more attractive than the slim 18yo. Now how do I go about getting myself a marriage 1.0 housewife? Just being a nice guy like the Bluepillers might suggest? Looksmax per black pill advice? Take the green pill and grind for the green pieces of paper? Focus on game like red pillers? I have no set strategy. I do however have a set …	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/25 01:12 AM
15	Q4E: Do you think some men are spreading this redpill rhetoric to make more men give up on women so they increase their chances at dating ? The spread of RP only increases competition If we wanted to decrease competition, we'd push for gay/homosexuals so they can self select out of the market. Or we'd push BP crap so that more men would view being the nice guy that "got her in the end" as a privilege somehow. They should totally leave the young "immature" girls to us. What we wouldn't do is push for them to acquire more looks/money/status to be more attractive to suit the shallow/hyergamous nature of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/25 10:16 PM
26	Has anyone ever changed their mind or their side as a result of this sub? Almost every redpiller started off bluepill. I was no different. What percentage of that can be attributed to this sub specifically? Hard to tell. But it certainly had some part to play.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/25 04:23 AM
–	Self improvement is the only true antidote to romantic loneliness You don't just get to keep saying it's not worth it But it is worth it... FOR SEX. That's why I'm redpill. If I didn't think it was worth it for sex, then I'd choose MGTOW. The burden of proof goes to the one making the positive claim. If you said, aliens exist, you need to prove it exists, the burden is not on other to disprove its existence. If you make such a claim that there IS some positive in intrinsically caring about one's appearance, you need to prove such pro exist. The burden is not o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/25 12:59 AM
1	Self improvement is the only true antidote to romantic loneliness It's totally possible to have a balanced approach Again totally possible. It might have extrinsic value in that it leads to sex. It just isn't intrinsically an improvement. There are debates around here about whether "the juice" is or isn't worth the squeeze. I can see the logic in both side. Depending on how you calculate it, the sexual output may or may not make up for the required input. But I can't fathom someone arguing that the squeeze itself makes it worth while, that there is any intrins…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 03:53 PM
0	Self improvement is the only true antidote to romantic loneliness There's zero reason you can't Never said you can't. Just saying its not an improvement. There's a word for looking good just for the sake of it. Vanity. There's a word for indulging in consumption. Gluttony There's a word for collecting worldly possession. Greed. None of those are good things. None of them are an improvement to my life. The only reason to partake in any of that is women. To be clear, there's also a word for that, lust. I'm not saying that's a good thing either. Its just sadly on…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/25 04:11 AM
1	Self improvement is the only true antidote to romantic loneliness The biggest issue is that "improvement" done for yourself, and "improvement" done for dating are completely different things. If I were to improve for myself, I would save as much as possible and invest it into my retirement account. But if I were to improve for dating, I'd be spending that money on more professional haircuts, fashionable clothing, and other glow up spending. If I were to improve for myself, I'd cook more at home where I'd be able to have full control of its nutritional value. B…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/25 03:28 PM
7	Your Geography dictates your dating. So, pray tell, where is this land of milk and honey and low cost of living with access to young attractive pussy, that is within the country borders? When the passportbros talk about geomaxxing, they can specifically point to the Philippines or Brazil or some other SEA /Latin America country. In which of the 50 state, do we have the equivalent?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/25 02:44 PM
4	economy profits from male loneliness and benefits when men stay single I believe it has more to do with taxation than profit. If I did an oil change for my girlfriend, and she cooks me a meal, the government gets nothing from that transaction. If a man works at a dealer does an oil change for a female customer, and later goes to this woman's restaurant for a meal, the government gets half the value as income tax. Both the man and woman acquired the same thing, the businesses are not doing any better in one scenario over another, but the government is. If anything, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/25 03:43 PM
–	Do most guys on here even see themselves as people ? I simply have no delusions of grandeur. I know that I don't matter, just like everyone else. I wouldn't consider myself just another blade of grass m though. I rank my importance in the heirarchy of being just like the ancients. Above inanimate object, plant, animals, women, but below the Gods.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/25 04:25 AM
–	Do most guys on here even see themselves as people ? I can only speak for myself, but I have always subscribed to the Aristotelian train of thought that it is logos that distinguishes human from beasts. Being analytical instead of emotional doesn't detract from my humanity, it accentuates it. Hell, the reason I'm here is because I got attracted to TRP, when it's defining work and goal is "the RATIONAL male".	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/25 04:07 AM
6	Men who are desperate to find a woman are actually desperate for something else. A meaning to their lives. Any knowledge based job after you get good at it, which can that a few weeks or months depending on how competent you are. I once worked insurance for a drug. The work demanded that we know the policy of everything insurance. New hires worked overtime looking it all up. The old crew basically finished by lunch because they memorized every other insurance policy by heart. Nowadays I work tech. I just had cursor write a script to automate half the crap I do, and suddenly I work half days every day…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/25 04:19 PM
8	Are Women Really Overlooking Good Men—Or Are They Just Not There women are to blame for ending up with manipulative, unfaithful, or low-effort men—because supposedly, they're ignoring a vast pool of “good guys” in favor of bad boys. Yes. The vast majority of men are NOT manipulative, NOT unfaithful, and NOT low-effort. So if a woman ends up being with one, they are to blame. Maybe that doesn't really make the vast majority of men a "good" man, but at a minimum they aren't bad men. If a woman ends up with one, she overlooked something. Did she overlook "good m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 03:18 PM
18	If a vast majority of men got laid easily, the United States would be a quasi socialist country right now voted against their own self interests Firstly, almost always when this idea is surfaced, it is because they have a narrow idea of self-interest. Secondly, even if you get a socialist country, it certainly won't look like your idealized version of Europe. If men can get what they want effortlessly (get laid easily and do not need to compete for sexual partners), then they have no reason to work ever a fraction as hard as they do now. In which case there won't be even a fraction of tax revenue. Y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/25 03:38 AM
3	Can’t believe this has to be said: yes, in order to date you need a social outlet Because we are social creatures and having a sense of community is important? I'm sure "sense of community" is somewhere on the list of important things, but I'm gonna need to scroll far far down to find it. There are other clearly more important things. I for one think we are SEXUAL creatures, and having SEXUAL PARTNERS and MONEY and FITNESS is the most important. So if you are not offering a strategy to optimizes for what is truly important, then now I know to look elsewhere for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 05:41 PM
2	Can’t believe this has to be said: yes, in order to date you need a social outlet I'm just following the structure of the post. But let me just ask a simple question. Why socialize? What in your argument makes it the superior dating strategy?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 05:29 PM
3	Can’t believe this has to be said: yes, in order to date you need a social outlet “But chad doesn’t have to” - even if that was true, you’re not Chad. Accept it Well the argument can also go the other way. "But men with game and social status don't have to be fit and fashionable" - well even if true, you don't have game and social status. Accept it and start lifting bro, get the haircut, and work towards being Chad. Fundamentally. If just one of the attribute can get you laid, it isn't entirely obvious that investing time into game/social status has a higher sexual return tha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/25 05:24 PM
9	Do you actually NEVER get laid or approached, or are you exaggerating? I have been approached exactly once in my life, and that was close to 20yrs ago. I happened to be too young and inexperienced to take advantage of it. You can't really lower your standards for being approached. It is by definition passive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/25 07:59 PM
11	Most men focus too much on specialists, whereas the reality is most women go for generalists This is how we arrive to the fact that women go for the top 20% men. You need to be in top 75% of 5 -6 attribute. (.75)5 gets you most of the way to top 20%. This is if we go with the assumption that attributes aren't negatively correlated, which they often are. Ex:More time in the office is less time in the gym.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/25 04:34 AM
5	Are any red pillers not looking for a traditional relationship? I'm not looking for a traditional relationship. I just use it as baseline. Like traditionally its one man, and one woman staying together from young til old. I'd LOVE for it to be one man, and two woman or three woman. Traditionally, duties and responsibilities are split by gender roles. I'd LOVE for my women to bring home the bacon AND cook it too. Now, again I just use the traditional relationship as a baseline, realistically I know I'm not gonna get a harem of women that does everything for m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/25 04:05 PM
0	Will you have problems with such a woman? Just as a person or as a potential partner. Theres some details I think is missing. I am especially wary of "exclusive relationship" includes/excludes. So here's what I would say on the matter. As the saying goes for dating modern women, "she's not yours, its just your turn." I have no issues what so ever in investing time for the chance to have a woman "be mine". It would be over my cold dead body that I wait for "my turn."	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/25 03:39 PM
6	Q4M: Do you have days in which you don’t think about attractive women, relationships or sex at all? Yes and No. Relationships? I rarely naturally think of it. Like sure I'm thinking of it now that you've brought it up, but rarely unprompted. Sex? I think of it EVERYDAY. Don't think I've ever not thought of sex since I've reached sexual maturity decades ago. I know most men do it for themselves This is true in the way that I fundamentally don't work for my employer, but work to make money for me. I don't do it for women, but I sure as hell do it to acquire sex for myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/25 02:20 PM
2	What happens to men when they finally get sex and are no longer interested in it? Why does there need to be a "next"? The goal isn't to have a next goal. The goal is to be done, and, you know, ENJOY life. Once sex, along with r/FIRE, is accomplished, life should simply be enjoyed. Wake up when you want, do some exercises to stay healthy, get a nice brunch and a blowjob, then dinner and some sex. Maybe sprinkle some low cost entertainment in between (read a book, watch some YouTube, play some video games, etc). Go to bed, and do the exact same thing the next day. No more stres…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/25 10:41 PM
1	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope These are both extrinsic qualities Yes, but again that is true of all things that inspire attraction. BEING intelligent is intrinsic. Converting that to saying/acting intelligent is extrinsic. You don't get attraction for the former, your get it for the latter. HAVING values is intrinsic. Behavioring in accordance to those values is extrinsic. Again you do not get attraction for your intrinsic qualities. A rich inter world is intrinsic. Monetizing that into the material world is extrinsic. So we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 08:37 PM
1	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope What difference is there? It all takes work at the end of the day. Why single out wealth and status. Its either all cope, or none of it is. Either is all cope to think a woman ever love you for you since its always for X quality you have to actively work for, or none of it is cope and its all genuine attraction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 08:10 PM
3	Status and wealth as indicators of attraction is the ultimate cope They’re not into you for you, they’re into the material stuff you can bring. Unless you propose that there is such a thing as unconditional love, the above will always be true in one form or another. They're not "really" into you for you, they're only into you for your money/status/social circle/funny jokes/etc. Stop bringing in the dough, stop going out to maintain your social circle, stop putting your brain into overdrive to always be funny and humorous, and they'll lose attraction towards you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/25 08:03 PM
10	A person with no options is NOT a better option. What makes a someone a better option is their actions The acquisition of options is an action, and at least for men, an expensive one. So expensive, that few would choose to acquire said options without exercising them. If you don't want to date a gamer, don't date one who dropped a grand on a PS5. If you don't want to date a player, don't date one who went around town acquiring options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/25 04:05 PM
4	Why do you guys want to be providers ? You have to remember what the demographic here is. It's filled with Beta Bux men who maxxed out on education and career, under the illusion that it gets them the life they want, only to realize the reality that all the babes flock to fuck Alpha Chads instead. Men that optimized for the wrong thing. It's hard to be a provider. But Beta men already have it. Of course they want a world where women values the thing that is hard to get that they already have, over Chadly charm/looks which is equally …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/25 05:01 AM
3	I sincerely believe that every average woman(6/10 and above)has the ability to become a millionaire by their 30s(in the west) Well, that kinda is the MGTOW logic. MGTOW advocate to focus on acquisition of currency, and not on women, and by the time their 30s end they'd be able to achieve r/FIRE and retire to an exotic paradise. It's just that these subs tend to skew young and/or horny, so they either haven't finished their 30s yet, or they are a recent convert, who haven't spend the entirety of their 20s MGTOW	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/01/25 07:41 PM
2	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? How so? If the wild monkeys and horses and wolves now had enough choices for hypergamy to develop, then so did our ape ancestors.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:44 AM
1	How have women evolved with hypergamous selection if they haven’t had a choice in their mate until modern era? However, until very recently, they had no choice in who they mated with Sexual selection comes from millions of years of evolution. A mere few thousand years of civilization can hardly put a dent in it. Almost all females, from wild animals to insects, are hypergamous. Our female bald monkey ancestors evolved hypergamy long before we were even considered human. if the man finds out he will likely have killed her and the kids Nah, he'd only kill the child. Again look out into the wild. Males woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:18 AM
2	Q4M: Males like women who stress them out? There is very little correlation or commonality. I like attractive women. I won't bother engaging with a woman if she is not attractive. That's really where the commonality ends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:35 PM
5	Q4M: Males like women who stress them out? This is wrong simply because it confuses "engagement" with "love/value/enjoyment." Its basically how Facebook operates. When creating content you "clickbait" the title so that its just a tad bit confusing, fill it with controversial content that induces stress and rage, that compels people to comment and engage, and voila! the views roll in. But just because you get views, doesn't mean people love you or your content. If anyone is obsessed with the content, its only for a short period of time, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:18 PM
19	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? Women can't fathom it because women's sex drive pales in comparison to men's sex drive (regardless of how many women around these parts try to claim otherwise)	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:57 PM
0	Men who say they don't care Oh how I wish that statement was correct. That is wasn't mandatory for men. How I wish to quit the rat race and just indulge myself in modern conveniences and endless free entertainment, and still attract women. Alas, its just not true.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 05:10 PM
3	Men who say they don't care Why is it mandatory for men? I've never subscribed to the whole "men and women are exactly the same except for what's in between there legs" BS. I've always been "sexist". and recognized the men and women are different. I've been pretty content with the "why men and women are different" question being answered with "it just is".	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:49 PM
4	Men who say they don't care Its not OK, its mandatory. As I've said, it just so happens women are attracted to men who do this. If he doesn't sell himself into corporate slavery, he isn't getting himself a woman to build a family with. As Dave Chappelle put it, “If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn’t buy a house”.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:43 PM
2	Men who say they don't care I'd imagine the same. Its just that it so happens that women are more attracted to men who would sell his hours for a rolex, than men are of women who would do the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:38 PM
-2	Men who say they don't care Only woman who love gold become golddiggers. Women who would sell themselves to corporate slavery instead of build a family likely love gold.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/24 04:27 PM
1	Q4A: What are you looking for in a partner? What I want out of a partner (from life really) is just Maslow's hierarchy. Ideally she has all of it (the original American dream of saving the bosses beautiful daughter and marrying her) , what I expect in reality is that she brings to the table the aspect of the hierarchy that is dependent on her (ie sex, and love) and at least doesn't detract from the other aspects (the classic ideal is "debt free" virgin without tattoos, not billionaire virgin without tattoos for a reason, don't need to mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/24 03:47 PM
3	How many of you would be prepared if a draft was called up? I think the draft age is usually 18-26. Maybe we're liable til our mid 30s. Either way I've age out so it ain't gonna impact me. War is less and less boots on ground and more tech nowadays anyways. I work in defense adjacent tech, so I'm good to go regardless. I know for a fact my equivalent in Korea, where they still have mandatory military service, dodged the barracks because of how important the tech is to the military.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 07:46 PM
5	Q4M- Hypothetical- your child's friends parent is accused of in appropriately touching another child but doesn't get convicted, what do you do? At best he is an unsavory character, at worse he has been targeted by unsavory characters. Either way I don't want my kids near him. The alleged crime is irrelevant. It could be any crime. Like, if a white man accused a foreign man of theft, i still would have my kids stay away from him. At best he might steal from us, at worst my kid gets caught up in his lynching.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 06:40 PM
0	If you were a billionaire, would you still pursue a romantic relationship/marriage? Why/why not? I don't know what context would make me so insanely stupid, to invest in a depreciating asset, that serves no functional purpose, but I suspect being a billionaire might do that. Right now, I am still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy. I can't afford to do anything that doesn't optimize for financial and sexual resources. But if I had that much extra money lying around, I might just get myself the ultimate luxury good of marriage for lolz.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 05:10 AM
9	People who look for umconditional love in relationships aren't confident in their ability to fulfill these conditions family, friends ... are a thing. Well, you see, a lot of men thought their woman IS their family and friend.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 02:11 PM
–	Q4m: Virginity without the traits associated with it Now the question is, does this woman being a virgin make her more valuable? Yes If so why, if her virginity doesn't signify any positve traits on her part? It doesn't need to "signify" anything, it is intrinsically and independently valuable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 12:24 AM
13	When single... Did/Do you care about what the opposite sex finds attractive? RP Man. I care in that it impacts my sex life. If I can make the "ugly bastard fucks hot babe" porn trope a reality, I wouldn't give a damn about being attractive. I intrinsically care about sex, I extrinsically care about what women find attractive in service of that end.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 06:42 PM
17	Q4M: Would you date an attractive "loser"? Hell yeah. She checked the important boxes, the "loser" bullet points are such low priority, they may as well be irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 02:39 PM
6	NEW NUMBERS 4 out of 10 young men in Sweden don't dare to flirt with girls, study shows Is it the same where you live? Pretty much. For reference, I've moved like ten times in my life, but all within the Pacific Time Zone (American west coast). So if anything, I imagine Sweden is late to the party on this one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 01:07 AM
4	CMV: Why are males more likely to stay in miserable marriages? One gender takes the oath of Til death do part, more seriously than the other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 12:17 AM
19	Men who’ve given up on dating, what’s the point of convincing internet strangers you made the right decision? There's a bit of a damned if yo do, damned if you don't argument here. If a man talks to someone because he expects value in return (ie when he talk to women for sex), he gets shit on. If he talks to people without expecting any value in return, only for the sake of disseminating valuable information (such as the cost benefit analysis of dating), he still gets shit on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 05:31 PM
4	If a man's only interest is having sex, why do some insist on treating a lady to date, hoping to get it? Why Any action after that question has the same answer. Cause it WORKS. It's just a matter of figuring why it works. Maybe it's because women as a whole are generally stupid and fall for those "lairs and deceitful people". Maybe it because woman are the liars and actually love the dynamic, even when they say they don't. Maybe it's something else entirely. It doesn't matter. Rational creatures just do what's the most effective. It might not be a "nice" thing to do. But we all know what happens to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:01 AM
-7	Do men see women as "expired" after 25 now? Oh it counts. Its just "worth less" than YEARS of youth and sexual attractiveness. The benefits to my sex life is worth way more than the benefits from "economic outcomes or divorce rates".	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 04:36 PM
19	Do men see women as "expired" after 25 now? The distinction I always point out is that there is a huge difference between "worthless" and " worth less". There isn't some magic binary "expired" date, women just gradually lower in value. A 35 yo woman brings 5 less years of youth and sexual attractiveness to the LTR table than a 30 yo, which in turn bring 5 years less to the table than a 25 yo, with in turn brings 5 years less to the table than a 20 yo. There is basically nothing more valuable a woman can bring to compensate for all of thos…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/24 03:47 PM
2	What's really holding you back from social interaction Well, I hate baseball. I simply endure for the sake of "the prize". So there's a hard upper bound I'm willing to invest in it. Make no mistake, it is an investment. I need dedicated clothing, book out a venue, transportation to said venue, training, time off work, etc. If all this cost more than outright "buying the prize", I ain't playing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/24 03:24 AM
2	Q4M: Younger boss babe? Or older trad wife? Its literally the second sentence on Wikipedia that it "typically occurs between the ages of 45 and 55", so that's what I went with. Either way the rationale still stands. Say its "only" 20 years, or 15 years, or 10 years difference. Its still near impossible for an older woman to bring enough to the table to compete with a younger woman who can bring a full decade extra of sexual attractiveness. Older women might be great for a short fling, not for anything long term.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 06:02 PM
-1	Q4M: Younger boss babe? Or older trad wife? Younger. Assume everything else is equal between them: Family background, humour, how much they like you, attractiveness etc. When entering a long term relationship, I judge their attractiveness, well, for the long term. Even if I assume the younger girl and older woman are equally attractive, its basic biology that they won't STAY attractive for the same amount of time. A 45yo approaching menopause is going to bring 25 less years of attractiveness to the table than a 20yo. No amount of feminini…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/11/24 05:37 PM
–	Should A Broke 30(M) Year Old Student Avoid Serious Relationships Until His Life Is In Order? What Are Your Thoughts? He's only got 2 years left in his degree. Its gonna be a lot easier overcoming the disadvantages of being 2 years older, than being broke in the Sexual Marketplace.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/24 03:38 PM
14	q4a: is sex a need? NOTHING is a need without a goal. "Need" is a meaningless word without a defined goal. So the question is what goal are we defining? Is sex needed for the continuation of the human species? Yes. But, who decided that the continuation of the species is a goal. Is sex needed to stay alive on an individual level? No. But again, who decides the goal is to be alive. I for one don't want to be alive, if I would be forever deprived of the one thing biology hardwired into me to pursue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/11/24 12:25 AM
2	Which is more important to you, height or family of origin structure? Stable nuclear family 100%. A slight reframing of the question, makes the answer even more clear. What is better, women fucking stable 5'8'' men and raising 5'8'' sons in a stable family, or women fucking 6'5'' deadbead and being single mothers for 6'5'' sons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/24 07:48 PM
14	Is value (for dating and marriage) more about how people compare to others (the average) or is value based on specific benchmarks, ideals, or accomplishments In general men rate women on absolutes, and women value men on relatives. If every woman turned into a debt-free virgin without tattoos, men would see every woman as viable. If every man had 6-6-6 women would still only want top 20% men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/24 12:43 AM
1	Who is the "good guy" who struggles with dating? A "good" quality of a good man, is that he predictably only does good things. When you are predictable and limit yourself to doing only a subset of things (even when they are good things) you become boring to women, and thus they struggle in dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 11:21 PM
0	What would you like to tell the men or women in your life? When you set unreasonable high standards, you don't weed out the low quality, all you get are those willing to lie to you. You see it with getting jobs. If all you apply to are the jobs with 6 figure salaries, work from home, flexible schedule, and don't need any experience or qualifications, don't be surprised when its all scam postings. You see it with dating women. If all you date are 10/10 girls, don't be surprised you don't recognize her when she takes the make up off. You see it with findi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/10/24 11:01 PM
5	Resistance and switching roles where stay at home spouses with and without children complain that their “job” is just as hard, demanding, stressful as the other spouse who is out working 50-60 hours a week With and without children are two VERY different situations. I have never seen, I can't even fathom of, a scenario where a stay at home spouse without kids to work just as hard as 50-60 hrs a week of work. It takes like 10 hrs/wk max for a person to take care of themselves when single. Even without accounting for productivi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/24 07:27 PM
-3	What about class? doctors marry other doctors, actors other actors doctors marry pretty nurses, actors marry younger models FTFY There is a kernel of truth that men tend towards women in there own social circles, but that's mostly because of proximity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 06:51 PM
-7	What’s the one quality in a woman that instantly wins you over? Traditional femininity, encompassing the things that modern feminists would consider sexist.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/24 04:15 PM
3	If You Became Super Desirable To Women, Would You Be A Player? You have any idea how hard it is to be Super Desirable To Women? I'm not putting in all that work to get Super Desirable To Woman, to then turn around and not take advantage of it. Its like making money, and then not spending. The only reason I make money is to spend it. The only reason I'd make myself desirable to women is to be a player with a harem. The only reason I would ever cultivate options is to exercise on said options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/24 06:43 PM
2	What age are you willing to date? In your relationship what is the age gap? I deal with it the same way I deal with all the other inevitable sorrows of life. I know I won't always be able to be with an attractive woman, the same way I know I won't always be alive. Its just a fact of life I have to accept. Eventually I will grow old, get sick, and die. Eventually I will no longer be in the company of attractive women. Life is fleeting. All I can do is strive to live life as much as I can while I'm still young, and enjoy young attractive women sexually as much as possible…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/24 04:25 AM
11	Q4M: Would you choose a deep emotional connection with your gf? Or for just primal "Chad" lust? Option 2. "Realz before feelz" is a motto I live and die by. The material and quantifiable will always trump feelings. So the physical act of sex will always be more important than emotional connections.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/24 08:41 PM
7	The red pill ruins everything and, also women actually want less than the top 10% of men. The red pill ruins everything This implies things weren't ruined before TRP, which is very much not the case. Life is suffering. It all sucks. The default Blue Pill shoved down our throats by society was never any better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/24 04:54 AM
26	Too many men conflate sexual frustration with depression It is not uncommon for a man to be depressed and not be sexually frustrated. It is uncommon for a man to be sexually frustrated and not be depressed. sex is a need and you have lack of will to live without it Sex can be a need, even if you don't lack the will to live without it. I always fall back to Maslow's Hierarchy An argument can be made that sex is the least important of the physiological needs. But its mindboggling to think that things like self-esteem or love and belonging can ever trump…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/24 09:09 PM
11	Red pill core thesis is incoherent To give credit where credit is due, it seems that men's capacity for creation is no match for women's capacity for destruction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 09:33 PM
9	Red pill core thesis is incoherent Its an issue of WHO there is hope for. There is hope for men on the individual level, but there's no hope for the dating market as a whole to be better for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 09:04 PM
17	Red pill core thesis is incoherent cause the market to become more competitive, and harder to deal with If TRP has a motto, it would be "enjoy the decline". Its not about making the dating market better or less competitive, that's a lost cause. Its not like women are gonna stop being hypergamous any time soon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/24 08:51 PM
3	Do most men really want “traditional women” or to receive treatment they imagine top tier Chads receive from women? Including: being devoutly religious Its such a shame than anything remotely "conservative" or "traditional" immediately gets equated to religion here in the West. There is a reason why so many of the passport bros choose South East Asia. The cultures there know that tradition and religion can be separated. The people there raising their daughters to be good housewives, aren't necessarily expected to provide an offering to Buddha every week.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/24 10:18 PM
1	Would you date an absolutely mediocre person? The biggest question whenever "average" or "mediocre" gets defined is whether we mean it globally or locally. A "mediocre" woman from a global pov, is still slim, chaste, marries young, and follows relatively strict gender roles. That's a woman I want in my life. A "mediocre" woman when limited locally, to say the US, and the picture changes drastically. I don't want anything to do with her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/10/24 03:18 PM
–	What would you do if a random woman invited you to her house? On the one hand, I might get laid. On the other hand, she might end all my misery. I'd say its a win-win	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/09/24 12:54 AM
-5	Q4M: Would you prefer to date in the West or in the Middle East The issue we have here is what are we defining as "educated." As far as I'm concerned the Western women learning about how many pronouns we have in college is far LESS EDUCATED than the Middle Eastern women taught how to cook, childcare, and family studies by her community.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 03:59 PM
-7	Q4M: Would you prefer to date in the West or in the Middle East Middle east. Younger bride>post wall. Virgin>used good. Has a religious mother to teach her to be a good wife> Has university brainwash her with feminism. Be in a society that treats women as 2nd class citizen>Be in Western society that treats men as 2nd class citizen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/24 03:43 PM
2	Is being a member of this sub actually improving your life? The users here vary when it comes to foundational beliefs, values, vocabularies, and perspectives, which few if any actually make explicit. Isn't this just...real life? Maybe not in a small town, but for most large cities, you have people from all walks of life, from different corners of the global, all with different goals and mindsets. Anonymity removes inhibitions on anti-social behavior, leading to lack of charity, meanness, etc. That's the point. I don't want to hear politically correct ans…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/24 08:48 PM
1	Women value/select/want effort/energy/investment from men above all else Well it’s looks AND x. But my post is about x and that argument is agreeing that x is crucial or important The title and the body of the post are at odds. The title claims women value effort "above all else". The body walks back quite a bit to claim that its merely "crucial or important". It can well be that looks matter above all else, and effort is still crucial and important but ultimately secondary to looks. Our hypothetical man who is physically attractive, but invests no effort is undesira…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 06:52 PM
4	Obsession with “visceral attraction” is self-sabotage and not consistent with how people really behave pair-bonding is a thing most humans do. Well, a cursory search on this subreddit, shows that most women and BP here don't believe "pair-bonding" exist at all, let alone something most humans do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 02:48 PM
16	Obsession with “visceral attraction” is self-sabotage and not consistent with how people really behave Fact is that in real life, even when there’s attraction at first sight, few people are going to feel it with the animalistic intensity You know what we call those "few people"? Chads. Alphas. The top percent of men. It has always been TRP stance that life for the average chump sucks. I feel like this is at the heart of a lot of arguments. Many people see normal men's lives as good, and therefore there is something wrong with all this pill stuff that deviates from the norm. This very post encoura…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/24 04:32 AM
18	Only "Successful" Lives are Valued "Successful" defined here is just another way of saying valuable. Valuable lives are valued is just a tautology. Its not like its a bad thing. I'm going to feel a lot more sadness if my hardworking neighbor got shot by a burglar/rapist, than if a burglar/rapist got shot by my hardworking neighbor. I see nothing wrong with that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/24 03:43 AM
1	Widespread internet usage killed romance, not feminism or the economy Seems similar to the "marriage kills romance" argument. That once you live together for year and know everything about someone, the romance fades alongside the mystery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/24 01:03 AM
3	Who is going to be the first gender to post the sexual encounter between their humanoid ai bot and themselves? I've seem my fair share of content posted where women ride dildos, not so much men with their tenga. I'd expect the same when you attach a robot to it all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/24 03:47 PM
13	What Do You Think Of Chris Williamson? He's been on Love Island. The TV Show that unapologetically only cast attractive individuals. He used to be a male model. Calling him average is like calling playboy centerfolds average. You're fine to have your opinions, but know that they aren't conventional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/24 08:42 PM
1	Men, would you choose love or sex? Sex. We can debate just how universal Maslow's Hierarchy is, but at least for me it's true. The Physiological need of sex, is more important than the need of love and belonging.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/24 11:19 PM
6	Do you ever see couples on opposite ends of gender expression and wonder… what on earth do they even have in common? This is the norm. At least it used to be. Mommy loves to cook and does all the cooking for the family. Daddy loves cars and acts as chauffer for mommy when she need to go to the stores. The father is into martial arts and gives the family a sense of security as a result. The mother is into interior design and fashion so everyone can enjoy a visually pleasing environment. Its the classic household dynamic. Separation of labor, different sphere of influence, Yin and Yang, it gets called different …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 07:48 PM
1	Q4M: Your son is unsuccessful with women, would you get him an escort for his birthday? What's your views on casual sex then? With your RP man tag, I assume you are ok with it. But the only difference between your daughter being an escort and having causal sex is that instead of having sex with randos for money, she has sex with randos for free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/09/24 05:10 PM
3	Q4 Average looking dudes who are struggling romantically? Do you party? Do you host social gatherings and invite others? Do you get invited to social gatherings? I like socializing, just not more than financial freedom or sex. In a hypothetical world where I win the lottery, and have sex with Playboy centerfolds on tap, I'd probably spend quite a bit of spare resources socializing. In the real world where I've got decades more of corporate slavery to look forward to and not much quantity or quality of pussy in my future, I'm not wasting money on anything else. If it isn't necessary for life, and if it doesn't get me sex, I'm investing it for retirement. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 09:20 PM
8	Q4 Average looking dudes who are struggling romantically? Do you party? Do you host social gatherings and invite others? Do you get invited to social gatherings? Not anymore. If you don’t, can you explain to us why you don’t? I did a cost benefit analysis and the math just doesn't check out. Going out and socializing is just more costly and less enjoyable than what my computer has to offer. IF I got laid, then the sexual pleasure would make the extra cost worth it, but alas that's generally doesn't happen, so I don't do it anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/09/24 08:37 PM
12	The central complaints with modern dating ultimately lie with mediocre men We implement affirmative action to force university to accept more women and less men. Then somehow we blame men for being mediocre in education compared to women. We have DEI and gender quotas to force more hiring of women and less of men. Then somehow we blame men for being mediocre in earnings in comparison. Somethings wrong here...	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 08:36 PM
12	If you claim men are angry at women because women treat them badly, why is it hard to accept that the opposite is also true? Most women have options. Most men do not. Its easy to accept someone blaming their circumstances and experiences when they have no options, its hard to accept when they chose the experiences for themselves. For every man that is a drug dealer/criminal a woman encounters, there's another boring accountant, another nerdy software engineer, another hard working blue collar worker that she ignored. Its hard to empathize with a woman that got dumped by a man, when she actively chooses him over other …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/24 07:41 PM
–	To be successful at a SOCIAL interaction with another human (a.k.a. dating / relationship), SOCIAL skills are the most important thing. This is as obvious as the sky is blue, yet some people on this sub keep doubling / tripling down on the desperate lie that social skills are irrelevant. Why? To succeed in a SEXUAL relationship, SEXUAL attractiveness is the most important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/24 11:15 PM
16	Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? Is every single prominent redpill/manosphere thought leader and influencer a ‘grifter’ who doesn’t represent the ‘real’ redpill? Yes. I wouldn't trust any influencer on anything. I invest. But I'm not taking advice from MeetKevin or Andrei Jikh shilling out the next crypto scam. I work on my health. If I listened to influencers, I'd have died trying to cure Covid by drinking bleach. The same applies to TRP. And just like all finance and health advice, there are no "thought leaders". Like who's t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/24 09:46 PM
1	Does relationship "porn" exist? I know its a bit of a meme joke, but there actually is "plot" in a lot of porn. In a lot of porn there's actually more runtime of enjoying each other's company than actual sex. You have half an hour of "housewife cooking me dinner" before a 25 minute sex scene.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/24 11:50 PM
14	Are Women Truly Outpacing Men and Is The Often-Cited Claim False That This Is What's Driving Down Marriage/Relationships? Men have a wider distribution curve than women. That means on the one hand, the majority of high earners with STEM degrees are men, but on the other hand the majority of the homeless with no degrees or earning potential are also men. Women dominate the middle ground. In most cases when you average it all out, women tend to be the ones doing better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/24 11:02 PM
11	Men can't date/marry out of their league with career success and money I guess its just sharing anecdotes at this point. I work in tech and I see it all the damn time. I think of all the people I know that won the start up equity lottery and peaced out. They all bagged hot babes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 03:46 AM
35	Men can't date/marry out of their league with career success and money I think anyone who has been outside, has some friends, has been to a club, scrolled on Instagram has seen who attractive women date. There are 10x more 8/10 attractive women than there are 5/10 millionaire men. So most attractive women wouldn't be with millionaires based on numbers alone. You need to look at it from the flip side. See who the 5/10 millionaires date. Its attractive women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/24 02:53 AM
1	Q4RPMen: Would you be in a LTR with a very good looking virgin woman who isn’t sexually attracted to you? Yes. "Reals over feelz" is a hill I'm willing to die on. I apply it across the board on all these hypothetical questions. I apply that principle on infidelity. I care about Physical Infidelity over Emotional Infidelity. I care about what physically happens, over feelings. Its the principle I apply on children and paternity fraud. I care about my biological offspring, not the bastard I though was my child. I care about the person that shares half my DNA, not the emotional bond. Its the same with …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 08:25 PM
0	All things considered the best suggestion for men in USA dating wise is to be sociopathic All things considered the best suggestion for men in USA dating wise is to be sociopathic Its not just dating, men are better off being sociopathic in the US full stop.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/24 12:48 AM
3	Do you think men leaving the west for better dating prospect will create a significant brain drain and negative economic consequences in the west? Or will it remain insignificant? The tiktok ban was mostly bipartisan, so I'm not surprise that either party plans to keep at it through the next presidency.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 03:28 PM
1	Do you think men leaving the west for better dating prospect will create a significant brain drain and negative economic consequences in the west? Or will it remain insignificant? Banning data/technology going abroad > less remote jobs > passport bros route less viable and limited economic impact on the US.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 03:08 PM
0	Do you think men leaving the west for better dating prospect will create a significant brain drain and negative economic consequences in the west? Or will it remain insignificant? The government already has. The headline news is the TikTok ban, but the underlying policy is the US banning data/technology going outside US borders. I work in tech myself, and all my coworkers that worked abroad remotely in the past are all asked to work within the US or quit because of this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/08/24 03:02 PM
–	If women find only a small percentage of men attractive, why should men even consider getting into committed relationships with them, let alone marry them? If PEOPLE only find a small percentage of JOBS attractive, how come I keep seeing all kinds of EMPLOYMENT...whenever I’m at a ballgame, a concert, the bar, or farmers market? Its because even though people don't like their jobs, they hate not having a job even more. The same with relationships. For a large portion of people being in a bad relationship where you are not fully attracted to you partner, is better than no relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/24 12:27 AM
16	The people who claim most women "like bad men" are lying to you. Ignore the liars' tiny sample size, American-bubble "studies" which "prove women like bad men" and just look at it from a women's self-interest perspective. Bad men will hurt them and make their lives worse. extremely young and immature (teenagers) This also includes women in their 20s. So we go right back to AFBB. If you as a man want to enjoy women when they are young and attractive, the dark triad bad boys path is the way to go. If you are a morally good person you're gonna be waiting on the sidelines until the girls are aging into their 30s, have a boatload of baggage and maybe kids from all the bad boys she's fucked, and their looks are starting to fade.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 05:39 PM
1	Why do you assume bluepill=simp ? You can do the experiment yourself, describe a situation Sure lets do that. Lets describe a few situations. Would you date a single mother? Would you take care of other men's fuck trophy? What do you think about being in a relationship where sex is like 1% of the relationship? The unanimous RP answer is FUCK NO. From what I've seen, BPers would unashamedly say yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/24 02:44 PM
2	"Women face more external pressure, men face more internal pressure" Many professions demand women It only seems like the professional world is more demanding of women, because women are the ones taking on those jobs. All client facing roles require professional attire and appearance. Men are also often required to suffer in the heat with sweat dripping down his balls and still wear suit & tie & long dress pants, while women have the option to wear breezy skirts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/24 04:12 PM
2	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? The same applies. In generally I don't put effort into caring much about my own hobbies. I'm a working adult, I don't have the time/money/energy for that. So again, am I not viewing myself as a person? Of course not, I very much see myself as a person. I don't see how not caring about someone's (either myself or a woman's) hobbies, as not caring about them as people. You are asking men to give consideration to aspects of women, that men often don't have the luxury to afford for themselves, and s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 08:11 PM
8	If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman? Hell, I don't really care about my own education or career. That shit has fuck all to do with "personhood". Yes I have an education, a damn good one at that. But the only reason I ever bothered to get it was so it would get me a good job. And the only reason I bother to have a job? Money. My education and career are just means to an end (money), so I don't care about them. Am I not viewing myself as a person then? Of course not. You tied caring about someone's education/career to caring about th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/24 07:48 PM
10	Who here doesn’t want kids? I actively dread the idea of having kids in my life. I quite like the idea of having a progeny to pass on the family name and genetics, but I don't see a child in and of itself in my life as a good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/24 01:25 AM
1	Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences. Yes. Actually the same person :)	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 09:08 PM
0	Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences. So because a large portion of women don't feel like it is a benefit, its not a privilege? Ok, thats also true of supposed "male privileges". So either agree that "male privilege" is bullshit, or make an argument that only applies to women, I'll wait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 08:12 PM
1	Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences. I have listed the negatives EVERYTHING has negative consequences. College means tuition, often six figures of student loan you can't even bankrupt out of. A career means selling decades of your life into corporate slavery. With great power, comes great responsibility. What are the benefits that women get out of sex Satisfying the most basic physiological need of Maslow's hierarchy alone, outweighs any and every negative a million times over. But I suppose it goes back to my original claim, "It s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 08:04 PM
3	Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences. not enough benefits and advantages What's your claim for this?? It seems to me the argument is that as a women, you don't inherently enjoy it. Therefore sex privilege for women isn't real. Well I can claim the same. As a man, I don't inherently enjoy college, work, or status. Therefore these education, career, and status "privileges" for men aren't real.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 07:53 PM
9	Sex cannot simultaneously be a privilege for women while also having negative social and physical consequences. What you are effectively claiming is that since you don't enjoy it, its not a privilege. Think about how this argument would sound if we were talking about men's supposes privileges of the past. I don't want to go to college, the only reason I go is to get a good respectable job. I don't want to get a good respectable job, I just want the high status. I don't want to get the high status, I just want the sexual advantages men with high status have. Therefore all the "privileges" women claim men h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/24 07:44 PM
5	Imagine a world without slutshaming Unattractive men are losing the most at this. Is it really? We can compare the West to the Middle East and see a stark difference. In Middle Eastern cultures that slutshame, normal bottom 80% of men can get young virgin wives just as the top 20% can. While here in the West, where there is relatively less slutshaming, normal bottom 80% of men, only get the leftovers of what the Chads don't want anymore, after Chad enjoyed their youth.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/24 03:34 PM
0	If all men prefer young women what should wifed up women do after the age of 40? If you lock down a good man while you are young and attractive, you can condition your man to have wife goggles.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/24 11:57 PM
2	For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to? I have two different visions of how this can unfold. The eliminate of one desire trickles down to everything else. I basically become a Buddhist monk. I shave my head, meditate in a Bhutan or Shaolin monastery, and basically become enlightened as I've eliminated all desire. In this scenario I would gladly eliminate my desire for a partner, I want the freedom and liberation. The eliminate of desire is for a partner only. I still have to deal with interacting with society, and pay taxes, and sched…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 11:50 PM
1	Due to us growing up in an increasingly system based society, we have forgotten that nothing in this world is a true right or entitlement , and for this argument a guaranteed mate and sex. nature doesn't give a fuck if you find girlfriend ,wife , get cucked whatever Nature also doesn't give a fuck if you get discriminated against or assaulted or whatever. If tax money is going towards helping women solve problems that women find important, then it would only be fair that tax money goes towards helping men solve problems that men find important. Of course you can say "well I don't want my tax dollars helping men with getting the sex they find important." My only response then is to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 05:42 PM
-2	Due to us growing up in an increasingly system based society, we have forgotten that nothing in this world is a true right or entitlement , and for this argument a guaranteed mate and sex. at some point we collectively agreed as societies to work together to advance our collective interests for comfort and safety. That "some point" was long ago. We don't actually agree on it anymore, it was just forced upon us, and it is increasingly just advancing the interests of women at the expense of men's, not our collective interest. The world is just what the fuck it is and some overcome and win and others not so much. We weren't able to have the feminists accept the world "as is" back the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/24 05:10 PM
4	Most ppl want to be the Adorers This came straight out of a PyscHacks video.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 06:20 PM
2	80/20 Rule, OLD vs Real life, and other thoughts I don't think its that hard to believe 60% of women aren't wholly attracted. In fact I find it hard to believe that a whopping 40% of women have a 10/10, full five star, attraction towards their man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 01:01 AM
7	80/20 Rule, OLD vs Real life, and other thoughts For redpillers, this might take the form that 80% of the women chase after the "high-value" 20% of men. Obviously, not all of them can date those 20%, so eventually, they settle for someone they aren't wholly attracted to. I also think this is a hard argument to defend. If you take this conception to be true, then ~20% of the women (in the 80%) get with a similar amount (~20%) of men. So, for a whopping 60% of total women, of those women who are in relationships with men, they aren't attracted t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/24 12:52 AM
7	Setting the Negativity Aside, In Your Opinion Which Broad Trend(s) Is/Are Headed in a Good Direction? Remote work. I see a future where it'd be easier and easier for people to be a global citizen, and not tethered to where their office is. Don't like the culture, or politics, or women where you're at? Just book a plane ticket and problem solved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:34 PM
9	Setting the Negativity Aside, In Your Opinion Which Broad Trend(s) Is/Are Headed in a Good Direction? “The planet is fine. The people are fucked” -George Carlin	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 06:29 PM
3	I no longer believe in redpill. Well, it just goes to show that men and women actually are that different. I'd gladly enter a sexual relationship with a normal girl that's just like any other girl that doesn't stand out in any way. As you have shown, women won't enter sexual relationships with men without something that makes them unique.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 01:33 AM
26	I no longer believe in redpill. don't act like you're just like any other guy but instead you're a unique individual with many traits that makes you an eligible bachelor. So.... I can't be a normal man like every other guy. I need to stand out and have multiple positive traits to attract women for sex. Hmmm. That sound suspiciously similar to RP talk about needing to be a top 20% man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/24 12:31 AM
-6	Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world. I don't think its often explicitly stated, but passport bros are generally RPers, so I don't know where you got the idea to attack RPers on this issue. Passport bros have consistently stated that women in Latin America/South East Asia are different from (and generally better than) women in the U S of A. Its actually a BP argument that women across the world are the same. They think since THEY think a man is a loser, ALL women must think they are a loser. The foreign women don't really like the p…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/24 02:38 PM
–	What are your thoughts on "Titty" streamers? Its all entertainment. I don't see how paying to watch a hot babe play with her tits, is any more or less stupid than paying to watch athletes play sportsball. Personally, I don't pay for either.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 06:16 PM
1	Who are the bottom 20% of men, according to measurable characteristics? Is one being subpar enough to be a deal breaker? No. Almost everyone is gonna be subpar in something. By definition 50% of the population is below average on any given metric. The back of the napkin calculation is that there's .5n chance you're not below average in at least one of n metrics, and that's under the generous assumption that most metrics are mutually independent, when in reality its generally mutually exclusive (ie. People with above average income and intellect, generally invest mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/24 06:06 PM
–	From a male perspective, do you have a hierarchy in negative traits in women? 1 - most unappealing. Attraction is the #1 non-negotiable trait. 4 - Wealth and finance is the 2nd only to attraction 3 - Acts of service like cooking is important, but behind attraction and wealth/finance. 5 - Ideally a woman enjoys spending her time doing what I want to do, but hey its fine to have separate lives. She does her summer camp crap, I do my shit. 2 - Her lack of a college degree simple doesn't matter all that much. Even if I cared about degrees, most women don't have rigorous STEM …	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/24 06:19 PM
-1	Q4M: How often do you do the following chores? I don't have standards of cleanliness, I have standards of hygiene. Hygiene is a set of practices performed to preserve health. I clean for the sake of health, I don't clean just for cleanliness sake. Food has a significant impact on health. So, anything that can potentially touch my food is cleaned immediately. I'm 100% sure I'd get a pass if food safety came round to inspect my kitchen. Things that touch my body like clothes and bedsheets, comes second in important to health. So I regularly cl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/24 04:21 PM
6	Is cold approach worth it in 2024 as an average guy? If you are high value, its worth it. If you are low value, its not worth it. The only thing worth doing when you are low value, is to work towards being high value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/07/24 12:01 AM
1	Is using economic allegories to human relationships inherently dehumanizing? the scales tipped in favor of the man. That's just a matter of anchoring. You see these countries as having "the scales tipped in favor of men", and the US/Nordic countries as equal and fair. I see it the other way around, these countries as equal and fair, and it is the US/Nordic countries that have the scales rigged against men in favor of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 01:45 PM
4	Is using economic allegories to human relationships inherently dehumanizing? your market value is whatever the market will bear Its usually BP that deny it once passport bros gets added in. Passport bros just sell in a different market. A man might get a 3 in the US, but easily get a 9 in SEA. Its a matter of how you choose and define "the market".	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/24 03:01 AM
17	In the False Paternity Scenarios We've Been Discussing, What Would Be "Fair" Restorative Justice for the Deceived Partner? Fundamentally a man got scammed out of his money. The rest is just a appeal to emotions instead of rational thought. If I went out and scammed someone out of 300K over the span of years, I fully expect the courts to order me to repay all 300K + interest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/24 08:17 PM
6	Would you abandon an 18 year old if you discovered they weren't your biological child? The point is that the relationship flips. Most of peoples' saving don't get passed on at death, it gets spend on medical bills. Sometimes its the classic "I fell and can't get up", other times its a cancer diagnosis. If anyone is abandoning anyone after a kid becomes an adult, its the child that's abandoning the parent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 11:10 PM
9	Would you abandon an 18 year old if you discovered they weren't your biological child? I guess women really are the oldest teenager in the house. /s Being independent at 18 is basically the norm where I grew up. You graduate high school, get your scholarships/student loans and off you go to another city for university. Only rich kids got their parents to pay for it all. Graduate that, and start working and paying the bills yourself. I've basically been 500 miles away from my parents ever since college. I go back to visit them time to time for their sake, to keep them happy, and to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 11:10 PM
11	Would you abandon an 18 year old if you discovered they weren't your biological child? Abandon? He's an adult, I ain't performing childcare anymore. Hell, its about time he picks up the family duties and perform eldercare for me!	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 09:24 PM
2	Do people who actually become social monks exist? You are reading way too much emotion into things. You seem to think people make decisions because they are "traumatised", "angry", or "salty", when in reality it is generally based off of cold calculated rational self interest. I want to know...was it worth it? Of course, fundamentally most go their own way because of the realization that the cost of getting a partner is higher the the benefits of having one. Its a RATIONAL choice, not an emotional choice or lifestyle preference. The very reason…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 07:01 PM
-3	Men who have had a lot of casual sex have worse pair-bonding abilities truly are damaged goods. It's "damaged good" the same way that ripped jeans are damaged goods. From a strictly practical POV, ripped jeans are worse than normal jeans, but from a fashion POV, it actually enhances its value. Men see promiscuous women as used, damaged goods, whereas women see it fashionable to be seen with promiscuous men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/24 05:44 PM
5	Dating is easier for women and it's men's fault When something is harder for women: Its men's fault. When something is easier for women: Its somehow still men's fault.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/07/24 08:52 PM
5	Both cities and the country have advantages and disadvantages for dating Passport bros living in big cities of foreign countries get the best of both worlds. They can live in an environment with close proximity to a large quantity of people and social events AND have it be cheap and live in a monoculture that values tight familial/societal bonds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/24 09:02 PM
6	What is Beta Game? And does it work? Are some men unable to benefit from applying the principles of Red Pill thought? There are always total losers, that lose no matter principles they apply to life, RP or otherwise. In the last decade of its existence, and the increased spread of these ideas into the cultural consciousness; in many ways the dating and marriage prospects of prime age men have gotten worse. Are RP concepts, applied incorrectly or not, actually responsible for this decline? If TRP had a motto it would be "enjoy the d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/24 01:44 AM
5	How is it that socially inept geeky types almost always seem to have long term partners who are often comparatively normal? How is it that socially inept geeky types almost always seem to have long term partners who are often comparatively normal? There are like 20x more geeky/nerdy men than women. So even if every geeky/nerdy woman dates geeky/nerdy men, 95% of geeky/nerdy men have to go for "normal" women. I'm not saying all 95% of these men could actually get normal girls, but the ones that couldn't, wouldn't waste their time being out and about for you to see. So its really just a sampling issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/24 03:14 PM
-2	Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientists There isn't any contradiction here. women's standards are delusional That is a just a fact. These men blame themselves for not learning this fact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 08:18 PM
-1	Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientists Maybe we have some different views on what is or isn't redpill. I for one consider myself redpill not because I think everything RP says is true, but that I know almost everything bluepill says to be false.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 08:14 PM
-1	Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientists Its the opposite. These men blame themselves for everything. They think they are unsuccessful, because they don't go to the gym everyday and looksmaxxing, because they don't work hard enough to get that six figure salary, because they don't have enough status, because they optimized for a "nice personality", without realizing women give fuck all about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/24 05:29 PM
1	The Red Pill is the Bible but translated by the Devil TRP isn't particularly religious, but if it was susceptible to a religion, I'd say its more Buddhist than Christian. Monk mode, seclusive meditation, and MGTOW are fairly adjacent to TRP after all. It's much more fulfulling living for a higher purpose While, potentially true, it is also unimportant. Everyone agrees the we want more of the good and less of the bad. The question is what of the two are more important. Christians, focus on getting MORE of the good, to live a MORE fulfilling MORE pur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/24 04:52 PM
9	Why haven’t more men quit the market? Because sex is a basic physiological need in Maslow's heirarchy. For example you go to a drive through only to see the lineup is 30 cars long, and you immediately say “yea f*** that” and drive off. For men, the modern West is actually more akin to soviet bread queues. If that line of 30 is the only way to get sex/bread, you bet your ass men are gonna wait in it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 06:14 PM
-3	If men are more wary of men than they are of women, then women are definitely justified in being more wary of men than women There's no winning here. If men treated other men better, then that's "misogyny" and thus women are justified to hate on men. But if men treat other men worse, then since men are doing it, women are also justified to hate on men too. Just own up to the fact that you hate men, stop spinning bullshit rationalizations for it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/24 03:00 AM
3	Men who fear that women are settling for them and feel they may be reduced to Beta Bucks... would you be okay, if she offers a hall pass? No. But she has also indicated that you are free to sleep with other women I'm already "free" to sleep with other women. The only time I'd give up that freedom is for a woman that has sex with me. Since she isn't doing that, it was never her permission to give in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/07/24 10:36 PM
36	Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality? If we indeed had similar values, then she'd value fitness. Date the fat girl now, and its a matter of time for her to get fit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/24 09:06 PM
-1	Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid. Its a means, not the only means. It is possible to get sex without it. As one other have said here, paying money for it is an option. No need for female approval or validation, just sex. Not always the most efficient, so not always advisable, but its an option. As another have said here, men that get sex without female approval are considered winners. We don't care about any "validation" bullshit, we care about sex. Edit: The way I see you making arguments here is that you want to trap heterosex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 05:14 PM
5	Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid. "All men pay for sex in one way or another" Its just about negotiating the price. Sometimes its giving a good performance as a dancing money, sometimes its cold hard cash.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 03:30 PM
0	Men care too much about women's approval and getting laid. The problem I have here is that "women's approval" and "getting laid" are used almost interchangeably. I for one care fuck all about women's approval, its only a means to the end of getting laid. I do not consider myself alone in this regard.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/24 02:26 PM
2	I always wondered... those of yall who dont want to date ppl who have been in situationships, polyamorous arrangements, ONSs etc... how will you know someone had a "hoe" phase?? Its basically big data on a personal level. The big tech companies can tell how old you are, your political ideology, your sexual orientation, income bracket, what brand's advertising you would be susceptible to, etc all from what posts you liked the last week. When you actually go up and personal and actually date someone, you have 10x the amount of data to draw conclusions from.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/24 11:07 PM
-4	Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman? so being with you is going to cost her one of her most valuable attributes. This is assuming she hasn't already lost her innocence before she got to me. Not likely in the modern West. This is why for men it is so important to never be the man that "gets her in the end". Some other man took what's most valuable in her and you end up paying the price for it. how are you going to make that a fair exchange? IF I was lucky enough to "get her in the beginning" and find a women with her innocence intac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 08:03 PM
1	Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman? The best word I can think of is innocence. On a higher level, I'd say what's most attractive in women is youthfulness. It manifests outwardly in looks, and inwardly as innocence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/24 07:18 PM
1	Would my dating story be a blue pilled story? 80/20 is core to TRP. The fact that 80% of women go after the top 20% of men, means that the remaining 20% of women go after the remaining 80% of men. Ask yourself this, is what happened to you common? If you see less than 20% of men experiencing the same treatment, if your experience is the exception, then its just the 80/20 chapter of a "red pill story". If what happened to you, is also experienced by the vast majority of men, if 80% of men are asked out by women of similar or higher looks, ju…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 04:32 PM
5	Is it a red flag to you if a woman travels or traveled a lot? Under normal circumstances, there's only ever one thing that is intrinsically a red flag - sexual promiscuity. Everything else is only a "red flag" in the sense that it increases the likelihood of a woman being (or had been) a slut. So travelling to Ibiza alone to "find herself" during summer break? Yea, that's a red flag. Is vacationing with her mommy and daddy every year a red flag? Definitely not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 03:24 PM
-1	Korean men are turning to AI to get dates for them So... is this just an unlabeled ad for Instadate. Sounds like the promise of AI making our lives easier is coming true faster than we thought.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/24 03:15 PM
7	I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego? where’s the infamous male ego? You are one step away from asking "where are all the good men?". Men are rational creatures that work on incentives. When women fuck bad men and fuck over good men, you're gonna see a lot less good men. What's happened is that men with pride and ego have been punished so much, few men have it nowadays. Like do they really want to be told their crush finds them ugly in so many words? Well, men like being told the truth. We've given girls barbies since they are kids …	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/24 01:32 PM
7	What’s your definition of the pills and why did you choose yours I marry for love with someone who marries me for love. Are there any condition for "love"? It seems like all pills agree that, aside from God and maybe your parents, there is no such thing as unconditional love. The condition for love is where the pills come into play. I'm RP because I think its the closest to the truth. Blackpill = Looks. Sees love and attraction as if we were peacocks showing off our feathers. Greenpill = Money. Sees attraction as if we were Bowerbirds showing off all the shin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:49 PM
3	If the RP ideas you subscribe to don’t work what’s your plan? If the RP idea of hit the gym is wrong? I'd hit the buffets and get fat, or at least do no exercise. If the RP idea of dark triad fails? I'd be a nice guy. Basically just do the opposite, or at least neutral of TRP if it doesn't work. Id imagine (as the old "Women hate how little it takes for men to be happy" meme goes) I'd live in an apartment like this, play video game, and not leave the house unless I had to. Basically enjoy life and indulge in modern conveniences and entertainment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/24 02:52 AM
1	Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not? Not enough to actually fund it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/24 11:52 PM
19	Q4M: if you have resigned to the idea that you will never get a woman to love you, then why not choose to be happy either way? This is like saying, if people can't be happy while in pain, how do you explain masochists. Just because there are a small minority of exceptions born differently, it doesn't cancel out the majority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/24 06:44 PM
16	Would you trade your gender’s dating struggles? Sure. For men, you would have virtually unlimited sexual options Hell yeah. the prospects of long term commitment are slim to none. I can enjoy all the benefits of a relationship without being in one. Sounds good to me. You get a lot more attention from the opposite sex but a lot of it is unwanted attention. I'd just have to not answer the unwanted DMs. Hardly an issue. You are also at a much higher risk for inter-gender violence. Violence where I'm from is a miniscule risk anyways. Its like hav…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 08:10 PM
2	Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women. Well, it’s important that you have a good opinion of you. I guess the question is just HOW important. I follow the classic RP mindset of "realz over feelz". Real tangible quantifiable results are always more important than opinions and fweelinz. One real tangible thing is money and material objects. I do the things that get me money. ALL opinion of me and my work, from others or from myself, comes second to that. Another tangible thing is sex, the physical contact of my body with a woman's. Agai…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 06:27 PM
3	Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women. Rape is about lack of consent. A person can provide consent without having desire. It deviates from the main point anyways. You are just proving again that for men, its a lose/lose situation. Men lose whether they care about a woman's inner world or not. Damned if you care, "rape" if you don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:58 PM
7	Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women. Its a lose lose situation here. As many have stated here, its the male sex drive. If I want sex AND cared that the woman actually wants sex with me and has a good opinion of me, then it "diminishes my status". But if I want sex AND DON'T give a shit about whether the the woman actually wants sex with me or her opinion of me its "rapey".	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/06/24 05:23 PM
–	Has anyone ever directly addressed the fact that toxic, abusive men and often downright assholes consistently have exponentially more success with women then genuinely wholesome men? Women would rather take the chance of being beaten to death than to be bored to death.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 04:43 PM
3	Why do men insist women are too picky? What makes men even think women are being picky in the first place? How is that even measured? When you go into the office/classroom today, what percentage of the opposite sex there are you willing to fuck? A RP assumption is that men are willing to fuck at least 80% of the women he sees and women willing to fuck at most 20%. That is what we mean by women being picky.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 04:18 PM
7	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? Being cynical and being resentful are two different things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 03:54 AM
24	Does self improvement cause men to become resentful towards women? Resentment comes from feeling that you've been wronged or lied to in some way. I don't believe I've been wronged or lied to about self improvement. The ones that lied to me are the "just be yourself" and "personality is what matters" BPers, the self improvement promoters did not lie to me at all. Going to the gym, reading books, therapy, improving finances, career, "frame", improving social skills etc. At the end of the day, I know relationships to be transactional. The list simply defines the t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/24 03:23 AM
1	Should I study/work in different fields to meet people I’m more compatible with? This line of thinking comes from a defeatist attitude that you are going to spend most of your life working. I for one am a firm believer of the r/FIRE movement. So I'd say best to just do what gets you the most money. Grind for a decade and you'd be able to retire into whatever social environment you want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/24 02:39 AM
18	Do you think women's preferences shift as they mature or do they just "settle" for men they find less attractive because they want to get married I think its an issue of people lying to themselves. I remember there was a study that showed people reportedly "liked" their jobs while they were stuck in it, even though they reported they would hate it and had hated it, before and after they had the job. The conclusion of the study was they people told themselves they liked something they hated as a protection mechanism of admitting they were living a miserable life with a crap job. I think that is what's happening with women "settling". Older…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 06:36 PM
4	If you’re white male, move to an Asian country ASAP over 15 years ago We've missed the boat on this. I have an uncle that worked for an import/export business in China, and he won't shut up about how it was a buffet of women back in the day, and how its not like that anymore. Back in the day, Hollywood had a monopoly on defining attractiveness. Nowadays they have K dramas, and local media to promote local men as attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 01:39 AM
4	Are high SMV men happier single? Look into history. What did the Emperors, Sultans, Khans, and warlords do? They all had a harem. When men are high value they don't chose to be single, they chose to be in relationships with multiple women, they have a main bitch AND side pieces. Low value men are the ones that can't have it all, and have to chose between one high quality marriage or multiple lower quality casual relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/24 01:15 AM
6	Parents have to be more conscious about structuring the socialization of their kids, especially boys The heart of the issue is women having ever increasing standards. "Lack of socialization" is just the latest iteration. If we wished on a genie and all the young men are "socialized" over night, I'd wager the overall distribution of sex and romance amongst men would still be the roughly same. Women'd just start complaining about something else. All else equal Not to mention the biggest issue with it all, we NEVER have all else equal. As the saying goes: “There are no solutions. There are only tr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/06/24 01:03 AM
-1	If women were forced to marry beta males in the past, then why do they grieve for them today? However, in the red pill, there is this narrative that men had it much easier in the older generations because women were forced or pressured into marrying men they were not attracted to, beta males. No. That is a feminist viewpoint. Only feminists think of the past as a time where women were "forced" into anything. Men and women in the past were simply educated differently and lived in a different society. However, if this true, is the grieving they do, real, or are they just most likely puttin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/06/24 09:19 PM
–	Would you rather date someone based on how they think, or what they do? Ever hired an escort or had a sugar baby? You can get a GFE and have an amazing time, even though deep down she might not find you attractive. Of the two options OP provided I much rather live the life of a sugar daddy (where all my desires are acted upon by my women who may or may not think highly of me). One with a woman that DOES what I want, even though she might not THINK how I want her to think. If anything I find it strange that someone would want the opposite where she THINKS I'm attract…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 10:50 PM
–	Would you rather date someone based on how they think, or what they do? What they do. What they do is the need. What they think is the want. An example: I NEED sexual acts in a relationship, I WANT her to think of me as attractive during sex. The action is the requirement, the thought is preferable but ultimately optional.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 08:17 PM
12	Why do people act like modern women are “easy” or that all they want is to hook up? Most women are not interested in casual sex whatsoever. a very small percentage of women who are willing to fuck strangers or sleep with men outside of a relationship no matter what they look like Its a matter of branding. I've just seen it too many times where women "had a relationship" with Chad for a week over a vacation. Serial short term relationships is just casual sex with plausible deniability.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 03:02 PM
-1	Have you ever encountered a woman who shattered your worldview? At the core of my worldview is the 80/20 rule. So no one woman is ever gonna "shatter my worldview", and I've never seen more than 20% of women not fall in line with RP predictions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/24 01:38 PM
1	Why is tit for tat not the optimal strategy in relationships? how would someone contribute less than normal time and still expect the other person to become comfortable having sex? This is why TRP focuses on Alphas and Chads so much. Those men can and do contribute less and still have women have sex with them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/24 10:20 PM
2	Why is tit for tat not the optimal strategy in relationships? In reality what happens is Contribute time/money/effort to woman Communicate sexual need Walk away as woman refused to met said sexual needs. This is fine once or twice. But for most men, it happens the majority of his dating life. Those losses stack up. So he needs to switch up the order. He needs to horde his resources, and only contribute AFTER he can reasonably expect woman to have sex with him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/05/24 06:37 PM
0	CMV Dating only becomes easier for men in their 30s because women at that age become more desperate. Ironically, I find the issues here is that men here care too much about what women feel. I don't give a shit about the inner world of a woman. I care that she talks, acts, and fucks like I want her to. Not whether she "feels" or "wants" to. Younger women in their prime (18-22) do NOT want these older men. Do they want these men? Don't know. Don't care. Do they fuck these men? Do they act feminine and try their best to please these men? Absolutely. That's all I care about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/05/24 05:48 PM
12	The great "checklist" bait-and-switch (why most dating advice is useless) What a lot of female advice and Bluepill talk boils down to is that you need to be a slave, someone that does things without an expectation for compensation. When they find fault in you, it is not on "what you don't do", it is on "what you don't WANT to do". So when they say you would not succeed while being poor, the issue isn't that you don't slave away for money. You can slave away for the dough, but you still aren't good enough because you aren't a person that WANTS to slave away. I'm not sa…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/24 09:32 PM
0	Q4M: would you rather date a young naive, gullible woman or a young mature confident woman? Why? OPTION A. Reason 1: "Men always want to be a woman's first love and women like to be a man's last romance." - Oscar Wilde. I want to be a woman's first. The first she has sex with, the first she falls in love with, the first she experiences life with. This happens when she is inexperienced woman who has never left her hometown. When I take a girl out I want to see her eyes sparkle from seeing something new, not the eyes of someone who's seen it all before. Reason 2: Yin and Yang. I want someone …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/05/24 04:03 PM
–	Men, who would you rather marry? What about the other part of that 20%? Life is hard. 80% of the value of a relationship is that it makes life easier. There are two main ways a woman can make a mans life easier. One is the sex. Its takes a lot of time/money/effort for men to satisfy his sexual needs, so providing sex on tap solves his main problem in life. The other is a division of labour. Traditionally a breadwinner/housewife dynamic. Since we are talking about gold diggers here, we are in agreement that I am to be the breadw…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 06:04 PM
–	Men, who would you rather marry? I've got a 2-fold response here. So can Women 2. It was not explicitly stated, so I'd assume an "all else equal" where neither or both have that quality. 80% of the value of a relationship comes from 20% of the actions, and sex is a large part of that 20%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 04:16 PM
–	Men, who would you rather marry? I care about action, not thought. I care about what she does, not what she thinks. So, I'm going to take the woman that has sex with me, not the women who has good emotions for me.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/24 03:24 PM
7	Is it true that if she doesn’t like you, it’s just because you don’t have enough looks, money and/or status? It is again a case of where the Pareto principle applies. 80% of outcomes come from 20% of causes. In the case of sex and dating, the 20% of causes consists of looks, money, and status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/24 05:37 PM
–	What are some of your favorite stand up comedy bits about relationships and dating? Dave Chapelle is basically obligatory	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/24 02:55 PM
4	How and why masculinity is being pacified, and why the redpill/manosphere is ironically an effective tool towards it masculine men are ultimately the ones to defend the HIS community FTFY. You are creating a dichotomy of being selfless to the point of caring about everyone and being selfish to the point of only caring about yourself. Historically masculinity isn't either, it is caring about what is HIS. A masculine man protects and provides for those that submit and plead loyalty to him, not just anyone. A man cares about HIS women. A king cares about HIS subjects in HIS domain. RP is not pushing for "meaningl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 08:13 PM
1	The whole “dating is better in X” argument this is just objectively true, however, do these numbers even matter if the kind of people or setting are not generally compatible with you? EVERY setting is incompatible with me. I don't want to spend money on gas for the car to go out while in a small town, just as much as I don't want to spend money on public transport to go out while in a big city. So the objective numbers actually are the most important. What is going to get me more sex, with more women, who are more attractive, with the le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/05/24 01:27 AM
5	You struggle with dating because you live in a large city Its not you its your location So... passport bros. The fault I find is not with the size of the city, but the extent in which the city has been corrupted by feminism and woke politics. Being in a big city in Latin America or SEA is still going to be better than a small city in NY or CA.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/05/24 02:30 PM
3	How Much of Guys Being Sex Obsessed is Socially Constructed? Men's obsession with sex is not a social construct. If it was, then we wouldn't see it in basically every society in history. Almost every religion in history acknowledges men's obsession with sex. The only difference is that most religions talk about how/why to suppress it, instead of having it expressed like we do now in the modern Western world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 03:49 PM
2	Question about buying attraction Blackpill rhetoric about men's sexual strategy but from a woman? That's new.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/05/24 04:28 AM
1	What do you think of passport bros? I just find it weird that people make such a big deal out of what is essentially just moving. My grandparents moved for a better life. My parents moved for a better life. I'm going to move for a better life. I feel bad for the local men Its not like these countries aren't exporting their men to my country, so I don't see anything wrong with men from my country moving into theirs.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 05:27 PM
3	“Hive mind” is male-speak for “consideration of and for others.” I’ve even seen a certain brand of man call considerate acts most people I know wouldn’t even think twice about doing as “virtue signaling.” This is basically the "nice guy" argument. 1)Most men want sex, most of the time, in some capacity. 2)Man does nice thing. 3) He's not really nice, he must be a "nice guy" doing nice thing just to further his agenda towards sex. 1)Most people like to be seen as virtuous, most of the time. 2) Person does considerate act. 3) They aren't really considerate, the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 03:42 PM
23	Q4M: How do you feel about Pick Mes Sounds amazing to me. Not getting the connection between your description of "pick-me" and the tiktok link though. Never actually met a woman like that IRL (or even close to it), so who knows, maybe its horrible in real life, but from your descriptions, I can't think of any downsides.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/05/24 12:57 AM
2	What's stopping you from taking the Blue Pill? Having more SEX with more attractive women is infinitely more valuable any and all SOCIAL rewards. So the answer to the question What's stopping you from taking the Blue Pill? is, the blue pill leads to less sex with less attractive women than the red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 04:39 PM
3	What's stopping you from taking the Blue Pill? SEXUAL rewards of TRP >>>>>>> SOCIAL rewards of TBP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/24 01:54 PM
2	There has been a rise in domestic violence against women - could modern dating dynamics play a part? More and more women decide they want to fuck Henry the abuser instead of the nice guy. Surprise, surprise, we have more and more DV victims.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 10:57 PM
–	What's your dating hot take? Something you believe from your own dating experiences that this sub would typically disagree with? I see it the other way around, Public social spaces are abandoning singles. Social events see single men looking to date as a nuisance. I see so many events explicitly saying "This event is for X, it isn't for dating, leave and go on a dating app if that's what you want."	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/24 06:10 PM
48	How do you think the men mental health crisis is going to end? A lot of the things sweep under "men's mental health" aren't really mental health issues. When a man's life is objectively good, but he feels bad, that is depression, a mental health issue. When a man's life is objectively bad, and he feel bad, then he is just sad, an appropriate response to a bad life, mental health is not the root cause. The latter is increasingly more and more common.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/24 06:41 PM
2	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? they must find you attractive How does this detract from that fact that inequality exists? If you want a salary, you need someone to find you employable, yet wealth/income inequality is valid. Somehow if a man wants sex, and needs someone to find him attractive, sex inequality isn't valid?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:36 PM
2	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? OP seems to think that his personal experience is incompatible with the statistical realities within the dating market. I have simply pointed out a few reasons why the two are not as incompatible as OP thinks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 06:02 PM
0	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? Inequalities in sex and attractions exist. The only question is to what magnitude it exists. Even if 80/20 is not correct, (say its 70/30 or 90/10), it would still be useful to have a placeholder assumption to emphasize that inequality exists.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 05:54 PM
5	If women are the sexual selectors, why have I as a man broken up with and turned down women? Reason 1: The top 20% of men do very well, and it doesn't take much to be in the top 20%. slightly above average height slightly above average facial attractiveness (Top 50% in height)(top 50% in attractiveness)=top25% of men already. Height and facial attractiveness, isn't really correlated in anyway so the back of the napkin math is valid here. Reason 2: Women are the gatekeeper of sex, men of relationship. So you initiating a breakup doesn't invalidate anything. Reason 3: We go by an 80/20 as…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/05/24 03:40 PM
1	Would you rather be stuck on a desert island with a man or a woman? Well, given the two of you are stuck on the island, its only a matter of time for her to slim down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/24 05:10 PM
–	I think that "slayers" or men who sleep around are low value because it means they never got validation in childhood and probably have fried dopamine receptors. Even if we do go down the rabbit hole and blame all our actions on childhood and upbringing, I still don't see how you can shoehorn "validation" into it all. If I missed breakfast, and lunch, I'm gonna eat all three meal at dinner. If a man missed out on fucking in his high school years, he's gonna make up for it when he's in his twenties. You say you are 22 yourself, so the age of checks out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/24 02:12 PM
–	As a Man a negative Trait of you will always disadvantage you more then a positive will benefit you, this is why its important to not have any "bad" traits. Not true. The classic example is the Chad criminal asshole. Get a 10/10 rating in looks, and you can have a 0/10 rating with the justice system and moral code, and still swim in pussy. At least more than the man with 5/10 looks, and 5/10 neutral morality/legality. We need to divide the attributes that matter and the ones that don't. Max out the attributes like looks, money, and status. If it comes at the cost of other attributes being below neutral then so be it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/04/24 01:17 AM
71	Why is misogyny increasing on social media? Reminds me of the legendary SlateStarCodex article Chen Sheng was an officer serving the Qin Dynasty, famous for their draconian punishments. He was supposed to lead his army to a rendezvous point, but he got delayed by heavy rains and it became clear he was going to arrive late. The way I always hear the story told is this: Chen turns to his friend Wu Guang and asks “What’s the penalty for being late?” “Death,” says Wu. “And what’s the penalty for rebellion?” “Death,” says Wu. “Well then…” says…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/04/24 04:26 AM
–	Red Pillers of Reddit, what would you do if your girlfriend cheated on you? I'm kicking her to the curb. Relationships are at their core about finding a woman that fucks me, and doesn't fuck anyone else. Literally everything else comes after this. If the core requirements surrounding sex isn't satisfied, NOTHING else matters. Don't care how sorry she feels, or how much money she makes, or how intelligent she is, or how amazing her personality is, or anything else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/24 02:43 AM
1	If you, as a straight man, could get sex as easily as a gay man… If so, everything you do to gain and maintain a relationship is simply things you do because this is what you must do to access regular sex? Yes. But that doesn't necessarily mean I would choose casual over relationships. With casual sex you are usually stuck with either cumming in a condom or risking STIs. With casual it still takes effort, "easy mode" in causal sex is still harder than "easy mode" in relationships. Untimately, sex is indeed the main reason for relationship, its just that I cho…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/04/24 07:22 PM
9	The “mis” war! Freakonomics. The books/podcast are focused on economics, not relationships but the chapters/episodes discussing the intersection between the two are golden. Examples are when they discuss the economics of marriage, debunking gender inequality, and pricing and legality of prostitution. -Modern Wisdom Again, its a pretty varied podcast. But the guest that do talk about relationships, are all top notch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 11:13 PM
2	I think some people here undermine the fact that attraction can grow on an individual One thing to add is that tastes and preferences solidify with age. Its the case with preferences in food, music, sexual attraction, the whole lot. So it might well be a good idea to consider developing attraction when you're 18, but you really do have to find attraction from the get go by your mid to late 20s.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/24 10:59 PM
7	Q4Men: Would you accept a woman with a “promiscuous past” if all the men she hooked up with were very unattractive? No. A used good is a used good. I don't want a cum dumpster no matter who's cum it is. Wonder what happened to the weekly n-count thread, for this to stay up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/24 06:40 PM
3	Two side of the same coin ? Ok, you care about having your feelings hurt. I consider the money and sex way more important. Its an old debate of how BP prioritize "feelz" vs TRP "realz". I for one focus on the tangible and objective things like sex and money, not intangible and subjective stuff like hurt feelings.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 05:38 PM
6	Two side of the same coin ? What's worse, exploiting someone's feelings for money or for sex ? At the end of the day I don't give a fuck about anyone's "feelings" here. I care about objective value. Do men lose value when they have less money? As a man I would say Yes. Do women lose value when they have more sex? It seems that women nowadays are adamant the answer is No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 05:10 PM
2	Which one would you choose? Just from the descriptions, I think 2 is best, but considering that nothing in relationships is guaranteed, including who might stay or leave. 1 might be better. I would consider 2 a "better" woman, but a "worse" relationship dynamic. "Mutual understanding and inclusion in every decision" sounds really good. But in practice, not so much. When you as a man don't wear the pants in the relationship, attraction often declines, and sex start drying up. Every other aspect of the relationship might go …	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/04/24 03:54 PM
4	A disconnect between stated values and behaviors? Why would raising your daughter to be sex positive and treating sex work as a reasonable career path so negative when those are the exact women these men seemingly want to be with? This is the error. These are not the #1 choice for many men in TRP. The #1 choice is getting a young attractive virgin as a housewife. Marriage 1.0. The type of marriage that existed before feminism. It is just that such relationships are impossible to find nowadays, that men settle for the second option. This is why …	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/04/24 05:19 PM
–	Is it easier in 2024 for an autistic man to make a fortune than get into a romantic relationship. The "make millions" part is questionable, but the general idea that its easier to make money than to get women certainly seems valid. I don't even think it's just for autistic men either, it's just more pronounced. There isn't what you would call a lack of posts discussing how paying for sex is often cheaper than dating. The underlying argument there is that even for the average man it might be more efficient to spend an extra few hours at work to pay and have a 100% guarantee of sex, than spend…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/04/24 05:08 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread SA means fuck all nowadays. It can mean a man r-ped some tweenager girl, or it can mean he touch some drunk sluts ass at the club after she grinded on him the whole night. One of those scenarios I'd be repulsed by the man. I don't want much to do with him. In the other, I'm going to actively defend my mate from the stupid bitch.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/04/24 06:37 PM
10	Q4M: Could you be with a woman who doesn't make you laugh? Keeper. All the priority boxes are checked here. Doesn't really matter if some trivial, low priority box isn't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/04/24 03:07 AM
0	Would you convert to another religion in the hope of getting access to traditional women? Its all about efficiency. If a strategy yields the highest sexual return, with the highest quality women, for the least amount of resources, I'd enact that strategy. Whether that strategy is religion or not is irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/24 04:41 PM
1	Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are Questioned In my calculations its 30% maximum. Its not like anyone ages from GigaChad into balding 5ft Indian guy. It simply has a minimal impact. Again, if you want to throw your hands up over a few percent then you do you. TRP knows that the majority of value is independent of what you're born with. Make money. Learn to interact with people. Acquire some status amongst the people you meet. Dare I say, most of that just comes with age.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 02:44 AM
2	Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are Questioned Look, if you want to be a doomer then you do you. Go be a black piller. Just go make your black pill arguments under a black pill banner instead of dragging RP and BP into your posts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 02:31 AM
2	Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are Questioned The difference between Red Pill and Black Pill mostly doesn't come from what is and isn't ideal, but rather how much different variables are weighted. To borrow and paraphrase a bit from ChatGPT: a Black pill would value SMV = 100% immutable traits such as age and height. a Red pill would value SMV = 30%Attractiveness +30%Wealth/Career+ 20% Status+ 20% Game with age and height maybe changing the formula by a few percent at most.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 02:11 AM
0	How young does a wife have to be for a husband to get “wife goggles?” "When the wall hits" is a whole different rabbit hole, which at the grand scheme of things doesn't really matter. The important part is that you know one exists. A 20yo can give a man 10 more years of youth and beauty than a 30 yo. This is true whether the wall is at 30 or 35 or 40 or any other number. The more years you can have it such that a man associates you with your youthful self the better. Wife goggles isn't some permanent binary thing. The more youthful years invested the stronger and …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 01:55 AM
-1	How young does a wife have to be for a husband to get “wife goggles?” I find "wife goggles" to be similar to Pavlovian conditioning. Feed a dog a good meal every time it hears a bell, and it would salivate whenever he hears a ring even when you stop feeding it. Offer a man your youthful body every time he thinks of you, and he would get a hard on when ever he thinks of you even when you are no longer youthful. The key to success is to have such conditioning over a prolonged period of time. If you are 20 yo, you have 10 more years to train your man than a 30 yo.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 01:42 AM
1	Red Pill Men Make Blue Pill Arguments When Their Assumptions Are Questioned RP has historically based attraction on LMS. Looks money status. Nothing in the entirety of your post contradicts that. Doesn't matter how old or young, short or tall you are. Max out your looks, money, and status, and you can swim in pussy. I feel like you are confusing black pill and red pill. It is a black pill assumptions that you're screwed if you're too short or old or ugly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/04/24 01:30 AM
5	Men who are concerned with lack of women in their life, have you even tried maximizing your chances? The only strategy I employ is going places where there will be plenty of women every single day. Mostly bars. But that's because I enjoy drinking. The thing that "maximizes your chances" is also a thing you enjoy. For many people it is simply not the case. They can do things they don't enjoy, but maximizes their chances. Or do things they do enjoy, but don't increase their chances. It seems like both strategies get shit on around here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 10:19 PM
1	Do you consider yourself a high value man? We'd need to define high value first. I remember someone asking ChatGPT and having it spit out a formula something like this: SMV = (.3 x physical attractiveness)+(.3 x Wealth/Career)+(.2 x Status)+(.2 x Social skills/game) I don't think ChatGPT had any consistency on the weighting, but I would consider this a good starting point to defining what a high value man is. Personally, I think I'm middle of the pack. Not high or low value. I'd say I'm (.3 x 5)+(.3 x 8)+(.2 x 4)+(.2 x 4)=5.5/10	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/04/24 10:12 PM
29	Who do so many men follow the ideology that leads to loneliness and suffering? Because the alternative is worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/04/24 04:17 PM
15	Men may have lesser options than women in the dating scene, but it is still a man’s world in all other areas. but besides that the world is still a man’s world I mean look at the disproportionate victims of suicide, prison sentences, military drafts, retirement ages, around the globe, they're all in favor of (wait, let me check my notes) WOMEN.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/24 05:16 AM
9	Adjust your seduction strategy to play to your strengths. This is “being yourself” I guess the question is at what point do you admit, you are no longer "being yourself". When you give up playing on you first biggest strength to play on your second biggest strength? Third? Fourth? At some point you have to say that that's not being yourself. You don't have to go too far down the list of strengths for it to basically be a weakness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 09:55 PM
23	Adjust your seduction strategy to play to your strengths. This is “being yourself” At the end of the day, its still an issue of supply and demand. If there are more men with your personal strength than women attracted to your personal strength, then you are gonna have a bad time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/03/24 08:31 PM
1	If the woman you meet is a virgin, what makes you think she’s going to stop being a virgin for you when she hasn’t done so for men she’s dated in the past? The diamond ring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/03/24 06:53 PM
5	Is it a conflict of interest to be learning about "female nature" from other men? In short, men have no experience being a woman...so what real insight could they have? I don't want to "be a woman," I want to be WITH a woman. As the saying goes "Don't ask fish for advice on catching fish, ask a fisherman". Even if we work with the premise being true, the opposite is also true: women have no experience being men. If you find other men's view biased, then your experience is equally questionable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/03/24 03:39 PM
0	Sex Work needs to be decriminalized to fix dating Legality is only step one. If its not affordable and accessible, then nothing is fixed. When its expensive and hard to get to, its no better than dating. This is why whenever the topic of sex work comes up, we always hear how amazing it is from men in SEA or LatAm, and how it changes nothing from men who went to Nevada, Europe, or Australia. The difference is in affordability and accessibility.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/24 05:34 PM
-1	General question for all - and let's discuss honestly: Why do you even want a gf/bf? What is the point? Is it just hormones? Do you comprehend the dept and commitment you are all asking for? Would you even know what to do with another human being in a committed and serious relationship? Well, the IDEAL, is that I would follow the same playbook my grandfather used, who probably followed in the footsteps of his grandfather. The good thing with tradcon is that there's a tried and true method to a good relationship. I've seen how great things were for my grandfather, so just replicate what he did. I mean realistically? Now, realistically, I know modern women have been corrupted by femin…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/03/24 04:40 AM
–	So you are an average guy in the west.... Now what? All three options there depends on money. You need money for plastic surgery/and substantial time off work to recover. You need money to afford international travel. You need money to display wealth and status. What are your solutions? Personally, I think there are multiple possible solution, the most important part is to commit to one. Having average looks, average status, average $$, average everything, isn't gonna cut it. So just min/max. Be 10/10 Chad and it doesn't matter if you have no fri…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/03/24 03:52 AM
12	So much of dating is right time/right place - and no, this doesn’t exactly mean what you think this is Men here DO want to better themselves. But these posts are just so damn patronizing/condescending. "Have you tried showering?" "Have you tried brushing your teeth?" "Have you tried going outside to socialize?" Why, yes. Yes, I have. I've showered myself for over a quarter century, thank you very much. The same with the teeth brushing. And that socializing thing too! Same for my RP brethren. Like Jesus Christ, how beneath you do you see these people that THIS is the advice you are giving them. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 05:04 PM
11	So much of dating is right time/right place - and no, this doesn’t exactly mean what you think this is it simply says do what you enjoy at a social level, surround yourself with others you enjoy being around, and just do said thing Another "just be yourself"/"do what you love" post. It only works, when being yourself/the things you love attract women. If the social events you enjoy are going to a LAN party or weeb conventions, then more likely than not, you are shit out of luck. The 20 to 1 gender ratio alone means that at most you have a 5% chance of success. As far as I'm concerned this is just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/02/24 04:27 PM
2	Is the Red Pill something you would recommend to someone who wants to improve their dating experience? Point 1: I do agree that many people do not have a good intuition for statistics. But I don't think the solution for that is to ignore them. Rather it is best to have someone interpret those statistics for them. Which is where TRP comes back into the picture. For the people who do not have the expertise or time to comb through all the data, TRP can have the conclusions summarized for them. TRP is not some well funded academic institution, so TRP has some questionable output at times, but I do be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/24 09:31 PM
7	Is the Red Pill something you would recommend to someone who wants to improve their dating experience? do you disagree? Yes. The main issue I have is its heavy reliance on statistics I cannot fathom how this can be seen as a negative by anyone who actually knows statistics. As you can see from my username, this is not just a defense of TRP. Statistics is the basis in which I optimize every aspect of my life. Statistics is the basis on which I choose my education, my career, my diet, my life in general, not just dating. The second issue I have with the Red Pill, and why I think it will not improve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/02/24 08:27 PM
5	Do you think anyone's opinion will change? I could easily see myself changing my views on what is right, but I won't change my views on what is wrong. I was bluepilled for most of my youth. Bluepilled me never got any tail as in high school. Blue pilled me got no female attention in university. Bluepilled me had abysmal results as a working professional. I've tried the bluepill thing for a decade straight and failed for a decade straight. I don't think I given any other idea more of a shot. I'm convinced that the bluepill is wrong. Now w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/24 08:36 PM
–	Would you rather date a reformed sex worker with a body count of 80 or a regular women with a body count of 80? So the classic whore (who has sex for money) vs slut (that has sex for free) question. One of the biggest issues with dating a slut, is that you are investing a relationship for what others got for free. At least with a whore, everyone else that fucked her had to pay for it too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/24 02:32 AM
–	Is true that the better looking the guy, the less he will want a relationship? Most people are as loyal as their options. Good looks are a proxy for options, but its not 100% accurate. There actually are scenarios where good looks doesn't equate to options, just not often.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/24 05:46 PM
1	Is dating a "free market"? That's like saying Androids aren't iphones. Sure, you are technically correct, the best kind of correct. But if we banned Androids, its hard to defend iphones as existing in a free market.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 09:27 PM
4	Is dating a "free market"? No, the dating market is not free from government regulation. Try paying someone cash for a "girlfriend experience". That would land you in jail or on a sex offender list in 49 out of 50 states.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 08:49 PM
2	If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single? Asshole's are not any more or less efficient than nice guys though. So it still stands that assholes in general do better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:23 PM
5	If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single? This is apex fallacy. Only a small percentage of men can have everything. Most men live life through a series of trade-offs. 50% of the country can't gather $1000 for an emergency. You need to be pretty up there to be able to give away resources and have that not impact you. Not to mention hypergamy. Its not about how good of a man you are. Its about how good you are compared to the competition. If you spend a fraction of your resources on yourself while the asshole is spending 100% of his on hi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:10 PM
0	If "Being An Asshole" Was All It Took To Get Women, Why Are So Many Assholes Single? Ok, but how do men get successful in the first place? That generally requires some asshole behavior. A nice guy would invest his time and money to help others. An asshole, who cares nothing about anyone else, would selfishly invest all his time and money into himself instead. Asshole are often unpleasant to be around, because they don't consider other peoples' feelings, needs, or wants. That is more mental power he can spends thinking about himself. While the nice guy is bettering his community,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 04:51 PM
0	Men who don't like women, why do you care if women don't like you? Why are they not allowed to hate you back? There's your answer. Women have been hating on men (or at least enabling feminists to hate on men) for decades, and surprise surprise they get some hate back. People hate other people that hate them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/02/24 05:57 AM
1	"just treat them like humans" We already know that any advice beginning with "just" is usually too simplistic. Well, it's meant to convey that it actually IS that simply, so its just you that is the problem. People who say that are saying it to convey to you that you are dumb. We don't have social norms for dealing with autonomous Androids or aliens yet. So there's no obvious change in behavior being suggested. Its mostly said by crazy feminists that use "human" as a byword for "man". I'm not saying that works by the way, I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/02/24 03:27 PM
1	Is it true that most guys think they would do better in dating if they were bringing in all the money? mid level government bureaucrats successful warrior This is a bad comparison. We should either compare mid level bureaucrat to mid level warrior, or compared successful bureaucrat to successful warrior. On the high end of success, either of them will do very well. Billionaires are fucking Instagram models on yachts in Dubai, just as much as athletes (or whatever the modern day warriors are). On the extremes. Betas and Alphas both get to fuck. This is true no matter the age. The question is the d…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 10:09 PM
1	Is it true that most guys think they would do better in dating if they were bringing in all the money? The warrior had a 50% chance of fighting for the wrong side and dies in battle. Best case scenario, he gets to keep a portion of the newly conquered land, enough to pay for one woman's dowry. The scribe, being one of the precious few that can read and write and do sums is too valuable to kill, at a worst case scenario changes his allegiance, and he goes back to collecting taxes, keeping a faction for his own efforts, and affords a harem of concubines. who do you think was getting more attention …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 09:11 PM
1	Is it true that most guys think they would do better in dating if they were bringing in all the money? They do. That's what TRP is for. Beta men would LOVE for the dating world to reward Beta behavior more than Alpha behavior. They know that it does not. So they come to TRP to change, and learn to be more Alpha.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 06:52 PM
0	Is it true that most guys think they would do better in dating if they were bringing in all the money? But why would guys want a relationship when they have to put all that pressure on themselves Men have pressure to perform no matter what. Its just a question of what. In days gone by, the pressure was to perform as a good person/nice guy/financially stable man worthy of her being in a sexual relationship with you. Now the pressure is to be an exciting bad boy/looksmaxxing Chad to get her tingles. This goes straight back to what TRP existed in the first place. The difference of Alphas and Betas. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/24 06:35 PM
6	Why do men knowingly date gold diggers? Paying for a prostitute is also illegal in most parts of the world. So its mutual destruction to report. This brings us full circle to why many men end up with gold diggers instead of pros in the first place. Gold diggers are legal and available, while prostitutes are not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 11:15 PM
48	Why do men knowingly date gold diggers? are they that desperate to get laid. Yes	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/24 08:07 PM
17	Do you think men can be completely loyal, in your opinion? I do not care about hypergamy or 6 foot height or 6 figures. My ex is only a foot taller than me and I’m 5’4 So you don't care about 6 foot height but your ex is 6'4''? Also, why do men with even an ounce of power/fame, try and have sex with as many people they can For most, that was the motivation for said power/fame. Frequently I see women ask a similar question. Why do men who have the capabilities to have sex with a lot of women, have sex with a lot of women? My answer is, what the fuck did …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/02/24 08:19 PM
-1	The problem with dating advice today is that people are seen as trophies rather than investments A lot of people do look at people as investments. It turns out women are a depreciating asset.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 07:59 PM
–	The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurd As opposed to incel behavior of not changing traits and not getting laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 03:52 AM
89	Is the the old cliché “you’ll meet someone when you’re not expecting it” true for men? Well, if I'm not looking for something, I'd be enjoying my life at home, and I've yet to meet anyone there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/24 12:31 AM
19	The idea that you should be sexually attracted only to certain traits otherwise there's something wrong with your brain is absurd It fine if the burden for morality isn't pushed down stream. If its ok for women to be attracted to and fuck toxic men. Then its also ok for men to be toxic to have women be attracted to and fuck them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/02/24 06:30 PM
6	AI, Augmented/Virtual Reality Partners It seems to me you are basically asking the pleasure machine thought experiment. The hedonist would all plug in, while those who have a status quo bias in favour of reality, and the religious folk that believe there's some "purpose" or "meaning" to life won't plug in. It's not much of a gendered question. I don't believe such advance tech would exist in my lifetime, but if it did, you bet your ass I'm plugging in immediately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/24 11:06 PM
1	Games and Goals? That's just the nature of this subreddit. As of this post, the most upvoted reply is someone insinuating that men here are losers that never talk to women. How can you be surprised that there's be anger flooding the subreddit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 04:16 PM
1	Games and Goals? Men are just adapting to the 21st century. A lot of TRPers would love to have a classic 1.0 marriage if our culture still had women saving themselves for marriage and married young. They want a traditional relationship but realize the decline in modern women makes this impractical. So they settle for the next best thing, to enjoy the decline and take advantage of the sluttiness of modern women. Again said sluttiness is what eroded the value of pursuing a traditional relationship in the first pla…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/24 03:16 PM
1	What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . . the issue I'm raising is that the red pill messaging isn't even pointing in that direction The reason TRP isn't pointing in that direction, is because the chances of it happening are so low. Andrew Tate and JW Waller can have "any woman they want", right? What is possible for the most googled man of the year, is not possible for the vast vast majority of men. Every woman starts out innocent, someone spoils her. It's not inevitable. Sometimes, she lucks into a guy with his head screwed on straigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 04:34 AM
1	What the "Pills" Get Wrong . . . Red pillers constantly conflate dating/casual sex and marriage. The vast majority of men will be happier being married to one good woman I don't think there is a disagreement with TRP. TRP agrees that the best outcome is to have a good woman. Its just that TRP considers them so rare that they are called "unicorns." TRP simply acknowledges the "decline" in the quality of women and gives advice on how to "enjoy the decline", how to make the best of living in an environment where "good woman" are s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/24 03:33 AM
2	It is wise to take an interest in the hypergamic development of even the people you're not planning on marrying As a man you might think "oh who cares alot of women are becoming e-girls, only fans, sleeping around, ill just marry that one virgin special girl who doesn't sleep around"...Now, if you do take an interest in preventing women from falling into the e-porn industry So what can a man do about it. He could work on the supply side to blame and shame women who do decide to be whores, or he could work on the demand side and call out all the simps that pay for onlyfans. In both cases, we all know how "…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/24 01:27 AM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread People were always insecure, they just had different trends back in the day. Back in the day, insecure people might start drinking and smoking to "be cool", now insecure people start 1000 day alcohol free challenges for "self improvement"	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 09:52 PM
6	Men of PPD: Do you really find casual sex appealing? the effort-to-reward ratio is absolutely abysmal I agree. But to me its like buying a lottery ticket. At no point am I delusional enough to think its "worth it", but when the one time purchase price for it is low enough, I'd buy anyways just to have the joy of hope. I'd never drop $1000 dollars in one go, its just a few dollars here and there when I pass a purchasing machine. Similarly I'd never hit a bar and do pickup for 5 hours straight, its that once I'm in a bar, might as well drop a few li…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 11:29 AM
10	What year did women achieve equality? I'd say around 1990. Since around that time we had MORE women graduate college than men. The downstream effect is that young childless women make MORE than young men, at least in big city metro areas. So had women as a whole achieved equality? No. The damage done to the older generation of women, might just never be reversed. But for any woman born 1990 or later, they can fuck off about their claims of "patriarchal oppression". I also see this in my own life. I can understand when my mother/aunt…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/01/24 01:58 AM
19	(Re-upload) What do y'all think of this excerpt about radicalisation in the manosphere? It's all about them, their problems, how much people like them or dislike them, how much they are suffering, ... It's all me me me me me me. There's no winning for men. Men can be nice guys that are nice enough to be all about her problem and her needs, in which case he is a doormat, and it is his fault that he doesn't get laid. If a men put's emphasis on so much as just one of his need, say sex, its still his fault that he doesn't get laid for being a "me me me". This is what OPs talking about.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/24 03:16 PM
28	Redpill men: How much money do you make? Do you feel that you make enough to provide for both you and your (real or hypothetical) spouse? Well, before 2024 ~$100,000. Tech layoff last year means ~$0 at the moment.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/24 10:57 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread I'd like the believe I'll never be so desperate to say Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/24 04:58 PM
0	outside of some obvious exceptions, having no friends is a red flag neither of you talk to people Who said that? I said its time for me to find a woman with no friends. I said nothing about not talking to anyone myself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 04:48 PM
3	Which one is correct? No. 1 sound good in theory, but rarely true in practice. Just take a look at how men actually operate when they don't date. There are some men who can just obsess over a stamp collection hobby or something and be happy and fulfilled, but most can't. Most men have their hobbies but all their hobbies are just weak substitutes for dating. Its watching porn to substitute sex. Its parasocial relationships with Twitch streamer/ OnlyFans girls to substitute real social interactions with real women. Its…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 04:44 PM
2	Would you be a beta bucks? You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. I'd try to open their eyes to what's going on, but I find those stuck in a BP mindset just aren't really receptive to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 04:33 PM
4	Would you be a beta bucks? Two very different questions. Would I be a BB? Maybe. I might consider it. Would I be a BB for post wall single mom? No. Fuck no. Also do you think many guys will still get with her now that so many guys are Red Pill aware? Yes. There are a lot of RP aware men, but I believe there are even more men still stuck with a BP mentality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 03:30 PM
17	outside of some obvious exceptions, having no friends is a red flag will potentially circle their whole life around you Well then, time to find myself a woman with no friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/24 03:25 PM
1	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” If its meaningless why are so many fighting for the label? Just accept that women are a monolith and women's unpredictability comes from complexity not diversity. After all its functionally the same right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 08:17 PM
3	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” Maybe I'm not expressing myself clearly enough. Women are "predictable", but not "EASILY predictable" Just because something CAN be done, doesn't mean its can EASILY be done. So "women are all the same" and "guys are confused" can both be true. This is why I started with the coin flip analogy. Most coins are minted to the same standards. The laws of physics apply uniformly. So a coin flip is fundamentally predictable, its just not easily predictable. A computer can determine the rotations per mi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 05:49 PM
4	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” Monolithic just means they are the same, not that they are simple.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 05:21 PM
2	“Women/men aren’t a monolith” You are mistaking complexity with diversity. Every coin flip is the near indistinguishable from each other, but you need a supercomputer to compute the angular velocity, drag, height, etc to predict if it lands head or tails. Every woman is effective the same, there's very little diversity in it. Its the complexity, that makes it difficult to predict if she'd spread her legs or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/01/24 05:18 PM
76	How can men prevent sexless, transactional or “bait & switch” marriages or long term relationships? men getting married or having children Don't get married or have kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/24 04:53 PM
3	What does Red Pill mean? I would say the biggest component of TRP is economics. Economics is the study of how humans interact with things of value. RP men value sex and as such studies sex from an economics lens. This contrast mainstream Bluepill views as they see such views as "autistic" or "misogynistic" since it "dehumanizes" women/sex into a commodity/service. Quite a lot of TRP is a direct consequence of viewing sex through economics. TRP talks frequently uses "80/20" and the Gini coefficient for sexual inequality,…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/24 02:59 AM
–	Would you still date women if you had an authentic bioengineered vagina and womb in your basement? Yes, its a matter of quality. I very much would love to have a superior alternative to real women, but that ain't enough. If its sexbots out of a sci-fi or anime though, sign me up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/01/24 04:43 PM
13	Should people with little to no dating experience be allowed to discuss or debate dating issues? If we bar the people who experience the most problems with getting dates from the conversation, then who the fuck are we having these conversations for?	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/24 04:40 AM
2	How do you think you guys will handle it once it's over and you're settled down? Do you guys think you'll be able to let it all go when it's over? I don't think men are really able to "let go". In the sense that I don't think there's a point in a man's life that he can truly say to himself, "yep, I'm done, I can do nothing whatsoever and still expect to live the rest of my years and decades being treated by a woman how I want to be treated". Married RP is a thing. Just because a woman married you doesn't mean you can stop doing the things that got her attracted to you in the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 11:03 AM
12	What does the 80/20 rule? At this point the 80/20 rule is just shorthand for inequality. There's no need to be pedantic about the actually distribution. Do you agree that there is such a thing as attraction inequality, or sex inequality, just as there is wealth inequality? If yes, then great. The default assumption is that there is a 80/20 distribution, but really it doesn't matter. Maybe the actual distribution is 70/30 or 90/10. So what? Doesn't change the bigger picture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/24 06:29 AM
1	If you woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex, and knew you would never go back, how would your views change? Men think women don't value sex enough, women see men as valuing sex too much. Nothing new here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 05:16 PM
1	If you woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex, and knew you would never go back, how would your views change? Basically, if you were a woman you’d be the kind of woman your current ideology considers disreputable, right? What I am saying is that that's how it already is currently as a man. So nothing would change. I currently do NOT see myself as a good reputable person. I would continue to NOT see myself as a good reputable person if I gender swapped. I used be good reputable person, but not anymore. The reason being, I want to live the good life filled with sex, way more than I want to continue to be …	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 01:59 PM
6	If you woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex, and knew you would never go back, how would your views change? Going out and doing things cost money, which I have to sell hours of my life into corporate slavery to obtain. Without the sexual compensation, I find it hard to justify doing. If I won the lottery or something maybe I'll do something as wasteful and reckless, but otherwise I'm not wasting my resources on things that won't increase my likelihood of sex. As you said I am red pill. Think about it, I am someone who would be willing to covert from a nice guy to bad boy/asshole to get laid. I don't m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 04:57 AM
8	If you woke up tomorrow as the opposite sex, and knew you would never go back, how would your views change? Life could only be easier. I mostly work from home and enjoy the time I spend at home. I expect things to stay the same regardless of whether I'm a man or woman. Maybe people would expect something of me, but there's only a few reasons I leave the house, so I likely won't interact with them, so what do I care? The main reason I leave the house and socialize revolves around getting the sex, (which sadly I'm not too successful at). I can't imagine more expected of me from a genderswap here, so can…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/24 04:33 AM
–	Having a skillset or not? how you perceive someone's value in a relationship? On the highest economic level, "value" comes in two forms, goods and services. A common RP way of labeling the distinction is value as a human BEING vs as a human DOING. So how do you want to be valued? You can be valued as a good, as human BEING. BE untouched. BE a virgin. Or you can be valued for the service you provide, as a human DOING. Valued for the skills you can DO. Your value comes from what you can do to me or for me to enjoy. Persona…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/24 09:39 PM
2	Is it true that a good amount of women want alpha males to have some beta qualities? The standard 20/80 still applies. So if you consider ~20% "a good amount of women", then yea, its true, a good amount want more beta qualities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/24 02:38 PM
12	Sex Robots will fix the dating market Well, a real life woman can bite your dick off too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/24 08:54 PM
1	Question for men: is the madonna-whore complex real? The concept recognizes a reality, but not with the correct explanation. There are women, who men only care about sexually. That is because they are hot, and not much else. Nothing to do with any psychological complex. There are women, who men love but aren't sexually aroused by. That is because they are not hot, despite gold stars on everything else. Again, nothing to do with any psychological complex. how could you romantically love your significant partner but cheat on them with somebody who y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/01/24 03:16 PM
-2	Why do feminists and red-pillers make it seem like it's either one extreme or the other when it comes to a woman having a career or a family? There is a different solution for the individual level, and for the societal level. On the individual level, you just need to be the top 20%. This is achievable for any individual man, and TRP community as a whole since only a small minority of men, smaller than 20%, are RP. On a society level, its about removing the policies and changing the institutions that created the alpha/beta 20/80 situation. The manosphere operates on both level. It helps individual men through teaching them how to be al…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 05:27 AM
-5	Why do feminists and red-pillers make it seem like it's either one extreme or the other when it comes to a woman having a career or a family? .....Okay, first of all, if you said out loud the first two paragraphs of your comment to the average man or woman fifty years ago, they would look at like you had two heads.. Just goes to show how language and society has changed in the last half century. Turn on the news, and I'm sure they'd have jolly old time figuring out how we are debating what a "women" is. I don't mean a woman that has a career and is a mother at the same time. A mean a woman that has a career, but when she has kids, foc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 01:58 AM
-1	Why do feminists and red-pillers make it seem like it's either one extreme or the other when it comes to a woman having a career or a family? But y do men shame Betas when Im sure the overwhelming majority of modern men fit into that category. Because they don't get laid (or at least get laid way less, with less attractive women in comparison to Alphas.) The manosphere is filled with Betas, and former Betas. They recognized that their behavior was unproductive and learned from their mistake, so they help others by calling it out when they see it in others. Shouldn't manosphere focus on helping beta men They do... by helping these Beta…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 01:30 AM
6	Why do feminists and red-pillers make it seem like it's either one extreme or the other when it comes to a woman having a career or a family? As the saying goes, "You can be ANYTHING you want to be, you can't be EVERYTHING you want to be." You only have 24 hours a day. The best analogy I've read is to think of skill points in an RPG. Its not even just women, we whole heartedly acknowledge it in men too. That is why we had the whole Alpha/Beta thing in the first place. The more we invest into alpha characteristics, the less we have to invest into Beta characteristics, and vice versa. If you are REALLY exceptional, maybe you can cram ev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/24 12:29 AM
–	Should men abandon The Red Pill in 2024? RP has become bastardized and commercialized by podcasters. They don't provide value or understand beyond a surface level in many cases What fucking hasn't? Literally everything of value that can be has been bastardized and commercialized. There 10x more finfluencers shilling stonk picks and crypto scams than proper financial advice. 9 out of 10 "doctors" are selling weight loss pills and "miracle foods". Should we abandon finance or personal health? Of course not. Sure if you can't think critic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/23 04:15 PM
4	General discussion regarding Red Pill Men Let's address point 1). Yes... but you're only looking at the women who would also be considered above average? This is what I was addressing. So. I agree with You do know girls also want to have sex right? Just they don't decide to have sex with everything. but that is true of women in general, it's not like we're only looking at the women who would be considered above average. To put it concisely, "women are hypergamous, men polygamous." I rarely wear any branded/luxury goods Its not just the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 03:03 AM
2	General discussion regarding Red Pill Men Women only go for the above average man. The key word is "only". As a man, I can think back to my school days and honest to god say I'd fuck any woman in class that offered. I'd want to fuck the above average women more, but I don't ONLY go for above average people like women do. Do you think if you manage to get into a relationship/have sex your entire life will be fixed overnight? Yes. All problems in my life are related to relationship/sex, it is only a question of how many degrees removed it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/23 02:19 AM
1	Where do these things fall in priority to you? Millennial Man. First: 9,4. Sex was, is, and will be top priority in my life. Second: 8,5. I'm presumably living with them. It would be difficult without an efficient yin/yang feminine/masculine homemaking/breadwinning division of labour. Third: 7,6. I'm not overtly emotional by nature, so how I "feel" effects me but not by much. Last: 1,2,3. Its just not important, unless she's neck deep in debt or something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/23 09:33 PM
22	Avoiding the Coming Demographic Collapse There won’t be enough young people to work the jobs Well we're on track for AI Robots to take our jobs. So no problem there.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/12/23 07:33 PM
5	Having a list of positive traits/achievements isn't enough for successful dating. Certain negative traits can outweigh all the positive traits or achievements you have "There are no solutions, only trade-offs." So what you are encouraging is for people to be jack of all trade, master of none. In general that is a bad idea. It is generally better to accept the negatives traits to have one exceptional positive trait. A man that has average 100IQ, average ~50K income, average 1K in saving, average 5'9'' height, average 5/10 looks, average everything, has no negative traits. He i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/23 07:42 PM
–	How do average looking guys get 10/10 Western women? Why is there less dating inflation abroad? They are fully in love. Relationships, when done right, has a sort of pair bonding or wife goggles-like imprinting effect. Men with wife goggles mentally convert the old hag with saggy tit into the hot babe she once was. Their wives fucked it into these men to forever associate sexual attractiveness with their wife. Women have the same thing. When you talk to these women about their husband they say they love him due to their long history together, but listen closely and you get the notion that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/23 05:22 PM
–	How do average looking guys get 10/10 Western women? Why is there less dating inflation abroad? Its not your absolute value that matters, its your value relative to the competition. You need to be top 20%. The only question is top 20% of what population? Passport bros expand the population they get compared to to the Global population, in which the average Western man is easily considered top 20%. Others contract the population they get compared to to a niche/enclosed environment. As an example, I know quite a few men who have a 10/10 wife. They are unremarkable in any society, but they we…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/23 04:57 PM
9	Men Who Have Been on These Forums and Have Dated - How do you manage? I don't think there's much practice involved in my case, just time. Every one of those stages took years of my life to get through.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/23 05:48 AM
22	Men Who Have Been on These Forums and Have Dated - How do you manage? I go through the 5 stages of denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance. I've reached acceptance for most things here. Once you accept reality as it is, there's no anxiety. This is true with life in general, not just dating. Accept that we will always have competition for what we want in life, sex is no different. Accept that we live in a capitalist society, and money is gonna play a huge role in life, relationships included. Accept that there are limited opportunities, and limitless …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/23 05:39 AM
4	Is it actually possible to have a relationship without any power dynamics and head games? In other words should everything feel effortless and there should be no strategic action taken Here's a Wikipedia definition: Strategy is a general plan to achieve one or more long-term or overall GOALS under conditions of UNCERTAINTY. The only scenario where no strategic action needs to be taken is when there are no goals, or there are no uncertainties. Generally the formation of a relationship hinges on there being a goal, otherwise why bother getting a relationship in the first place? So the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 04:55 PM
13	37% of Men have used prostitution: ramifications? *Not signing in to read the entire an article. The 37% globally isn't distributed evenly by country. Last I've checked, in countries where prostitution is deemed acceptable like Cambodia/Thailand ~90% of men have paid for sex at some point, while in countries where it is persecuted like the US ~15% of men have done the same. Basically where its actually accessible, men pay for sex. From what I could read without signing in from the article, it said 12%-14% of American men have used prostitution.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/23 02:21 AM
5	For those of you who can’t get dates/relationships, what are some other goals you have in life? I'm never really bored to that point. The internet can keep me endlessly entertained. Some days its watching Quantum Physics lectures from MIT, other days I'm watching a video of anime girl saying ara~ ara~ 500 times straight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 03:25 AM
7	For those of you who can’t get dates/relationships, what are some other goals you have in life? Aside from sex, I have no desire for more, the goal is only to maintain what I currently already have. I want to maintain my health. To that cause I spend a lot of time on diet and exercise. With how aging works, I can only imagine this taking over more and more of my life I want to maintain my lifestyle. If I have had a nest egg that could afford 100K a year I'd just retire, but alas I don't so I sell myself into corporate slavery like everyone else. Hopefully if I save aggressively enough I ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/23 02:33 AM
6	Did any of your grandfathers ever tell you how much better men have it these days in the same way women's grandmothers did? The average age of a grandparent today is 47. The question is about YOUR grandparents, not just any grandparent. I think the survey a few weeks back put the average age to be about 30 around here. Not to mention you and your father/mother might not be the first born. You are 38 yourself. So we are working with an average age close to 90. I'm a millennial too and my father was the youngest of the bunch. Grandpa would be 100 (if he was still alive). Lets just say he was not a fan of the Japanese.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 06:42 PM
1	What do you believe is the benefit of your specific "Pill" philosophy? What Pill do you identify with? Red Where did you learn about that particular philosophy? In college. It might be a chicken or egg problem, whether the person I am made me take STEM and econ classes, or whether those classes made me the person I am. But the core of it is that I am a rational person, and view the world through the lens of statistics and economics. So things like "marriage/divorce rates", "sexual capital", and "sexual market value" where all concepts I had before I've even heard o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 06:12 PM
5	Did any of your grandfathers ever tell you how much better men have it these days in the same way women's grandmothers did? Not the type of war the old man had to go through. Being in a NATO country means war for me (if it was ever to happen) would be me fighting with the biggest military might in history. War back then was fighting a war that you had a real chance of losing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 04:43 PM
9	Did any of your grandfathers ever tell you how much better men have it these days in the same way women's grandmothers did? What does "literally every old man" mean to you? Like seriously?!?!?! Of course my grandfather did. Grandpa is an old man too. I'm questioning your reading comprehension here. Or is it that you know of any grandpa that isn't an old man?	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 04:30 PM
16	Did any of your grandfathers ever tell you how much better men have it these days in the same way women's grandmothers did? Literally every old man I know that's been through the war talks about its horror, and how lucky us young folk can take peace for granted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 04:26 PM
20	Did any of your grandfathers ever tell you how much better men have it these days in the same way women's grandmothers did? Men back in grandpa's day actually had to go to war. I do not. That's the only upside, everything else has gotten worse for the modern man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/23 04:16 PM
-1	How do you approach dating knowing full well you’re going into it with your judgement impaired. Sage time/Post nut clarity. Not only do you have a clear mind, its after the sex so you can put that into consideration.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/12/23 02:00 AM
8	Are there more lonely men or lonely women? With almost everything, men have a wider bell curve than women. The "least lonely" people are mostly men, and so are the "most lonely". Women dominating the "moderately or sometimes lonely" middle ground. We see this in wealth distribution as well. The richest people are generally men, and so are the poorest. Most CEOs are men, but so is the majority of the homeless and prison population. Women dominate the middle class. This isn't a surprise. Our society demands risk taking from men. Being born…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/23 02:09 PM
-7	what do women gain from being in a relationship with men if they’re seen as valueless after 25? Of all the posts about this topic, the best way I've seen it describe is to think of a childhood teddy bear. Its ragged and torn as it ages. You KNOW its worthless, but you wouldn't give it up, even in someone give you a brand new one. That is because you love it even though it is objectively worthless, and if it were out on the open market, no one would ever buy it. You're objective value does not have to dictate how you are treated. In a sense that's what love is, to choose to treat something …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/23 03:40 AM
0	Advice for unsuccessful men in romance vs advice for financially unsuccessful people and incel rhetoric vs socialist rhetoric Yes, it is logically inconsistent. We are socialist financially and capitalist sexually. The question is which of those two are wrong. Is it the dating world that is wrong, where we need it to be as socialist as we would for finance? Or is it the financial world that is wrong, where we need it to be cutthroat capitalists as we are in the dating market? An idealist would say we should take the socialist approach, we should all be less selfish, and help everyone in need. As a realist myself, I wou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/23 06:59 PM
2	What made you join the red pill? Not sure to be honest. I love the article, but don't know much of the author. I'm no stranger to the irony if it is true. After all, what made me anti-feminist was dealing with feminists. So who knows, maybe it was a bluepiller that pushed me towards TRP.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 10:34 PM
2	What made you join the red pill? At the highest level, I was always RP. You could say i was RP before TRP existed. But if you mean what made me interested in TRP community, not just the concepts behind it, I would have to say that Slate Star Codex was my entry point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/23 09:10 PM
-2	Do You Think Being Platonic Friends With Women Is Worth It? More often then not, its not worth it. A common problem with women is how high maintenance they are, be it with friendships or relationships. As a man, the only way I see that level of maintenance making any sense is if sex is on the table. With men, its just lower maintenance. You can literally not talk to a man for a year, and then hang out as if you've just talked yesterday.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/23 06:53 PM
2	The Red Pill claim that modern women are “not held accountable” is completely bogus. like 1% of rapists ever spend a day in jail Questionable statistics here. But even if I ignored the validity of the statistics, its not like its gendered. I think rape is actually one of the better arguments that men get fucked by the government and media. In the eyes of the media, male teacher "rapes" his students, while female teachers "had sex" with students. Even though in both cases they had sex with willing (not consenting due to age) students. The sentencing is also always more lenient fo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 08:37 PM
5	How is it that such severely dysfunctional and socially inept people so often seem to be in long term relationships? when conventional wisdom tells you that they wouldn’t even be a blip on the radar of the opposite sex Well, maybe there is something wrong with the conventional wisdom. The things you view as bugs, might just be features.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 06:03 PM
7	The Red Pill claim that modern women are “not held accountable” is completely bogus. The Red Pill claim that modern women are “not held accountable” By who? The RP claim is that the government and mainstream media don't hold women accountable. but RP men also often hold women accountable So.. no contradiction here. Society at large doesn't hold women accountable, TRP does.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/23 05:35 PM
3	What is your take on the PPD survey/demographic results? From what I can gather, most PPD demographic trends matches the general Reddit demographic trends, so nothing we can really single out PPD for. Only surprise I have is just how diverse peoples' pill colors actually are. Not sure how to feel that the biggest chuck goes to blackpills though.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 04:31 PM
5	People focus too much on “gaming” the dating market. I’m saying you’re not being picky enough Men around these parts simultaneously get accused of being too picky and not picky enough. I’m not saying girls won’t leave if you’re being emotional in front of her If we are to go the "not picky enough" route, then this alone isn't enough. You know what would get me out of a rut, if I was in one? What would make me feel better if I was emotional and wanted to cry? A blowjob. What I need in these situations to feel better is sex. What I need is more than…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/23 03:57 AM
17	80 20 thing is justified because in general men put in less effort When men graduate college more and get higher gpa: Misogyny! When women graduate college more and get higher gpa: "men put in less effort." Just another example of our anti-men society and culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/23 04:56 PM
4	Why are so many men convinced statistical analysis, pattern recognition, evo psych and other analytics can give them an advantage in dating? Dating cannot be understood within these contexts because emotions like attraction are not objective values that are quantifiable. Yes, it can, you just choose not to. I can measure exactly how much sex I have, the success rate of initiating/approaching, exactly how much resources I have invested in any given women to get that sex, etc. I remember a viral post some years ago with a man doing just that with an excel sheet documenting his sex life with his wife. You can choose to see dating as som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 08:43 PM
5	The manosphere heavily struggles with differentiating vulnerability and weakness “i’m trying to fix this, and i need your input” Ok, why the fuck do I need anyone's input? Because I don't have the answer myself, which is a weakness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 05:33 PM
6	Social circles is a "don't shit where you eat" scenario slightly better than hitting on coworkers This is just an extension of signaling theory. That signaling you are high value is more important than actually being high value when attracting a mate. With money, showing you can spend recklessly, is more attractive than simply having money. With friends, showing you have so many friends that you don't care that you might destroy friendships, is more attractive than actually being in high quality social networks. So yea, you are "jeopardizing their friendships" and might well get a reputation…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/23 04:49 PM
6	Past promiscuity stances from RP are misleading So basically "she's not your, its just your turn" Some men (like your nerdy med school guy) get the first dibs from marriage, other men (the more common scenario) get to enjoy the young attractive version of women during their hoe phase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 11:59 PM
0	To those of you who explain/defend your preferences in a moral light - why? demeans the other person rather than a way that highlights your individual lifestyle Although this is true, it is not true in the way you think it is. What TRP, MGTOW, and the like pride themselves in is that they make RATIONAL decisions, not "lifestyle" decisions OR "moral" decisions. So there are many claims that certain people are lesser, and if that is your definition of "demeans" then it is true, but the claim is not that they are lesser from a moral perspective, but from a utility, economi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/23 06:44 PM
6	There’s no reason not to get a paternity test unless there is some n fact doubt The benefits for women is that the man can’t then say the child isn’t his down the line and it affords the legal right to get child support. Here's where your wrong, women get no benefit from paternity test. Women can get the child support, even when a man proves it isn't his. This is the biggest reason paternity tests get brought up around these parts in the first place, the unjust scenario where men end up paying child support for someone else's fuck trophy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/23 09:44 PM
–	Women getting more attention is not inherently good for them Let’s say you have a 8/10 man and an 8/10 woman. Apex fallacy right out the gate. When we compare to the top 20% AlphaBux Chad, everyone else is gonna have it worse. What happens when we compare the average 5/10 man with an average 5/10 woman? When the man walks into a bar with 100 straight woman, he has 0.1 options not 10. He'd have have to go to 10 separate bars before he even gets 1 hookup. Even that might be generous. This is not true for a 5/10 woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/23 11:52 PM
4	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." Why Sex. The only reason of life is to perform the act that leads to the continuation of said life. To not have sex is the true "defeat" of life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:38 PM
8	"Women dont put enough effort into making it work because they think there's always something better." "It's women's fault for staying in a crappy relationship." The claim is not that there is no way, the claim is that there is NO CHOICE. Women (and top 20% of men) have an abundance of options, the average man does not and simply takes what he can get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/23 05:31 PM
3	How Important Do You Think Your Romantic Life is to Your Happiness? your love life or your career? Love/sex/romantic life is very important. Career isn't even in the equation. I have always viewed it as just me selling my time for money. I never wanted to "be" or "achieve" anything. If I won the lotto, I'd quit immediately and spend to rest of my life enjoying the company of a beautiful woman. The reason I work hard at my career is so I can get out sooner. To make more money, and retire as soon as possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 08:01 PM
1	Do you think you are more judgemental of your own sex, or the opposite sex, and why? Maybe even more so. Its one thing to know about the advantages of strangers, and another to see those advantages up close. It just makes it so much easier to excuse the disadvantaged party, and so much harder to not judge the privileged individuals.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:51 AM
3	Do you think you are more judgemental of your own sex, or the opposite sex, and why? Think if two people committed robbery. One was poor and starving, and another rich as fuck. I in general will "judge" the rich person far more harshly for the crime. This is simply due to the fact that the robbery was out of necessity for the poor starving person, and out of greed for the rich. This is why I generally view young women harsher than young men, but old men harsher than old women. Young women are so advantaged in life compared to young men, I find most issues inexcusable. This flips…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/23 01:09 AM
3	"Treat women as human beings" As with all things in life there is a Goldilocks zone. Its just that for (non Chad) men it is defined in such narrow terms that its basically impossible to get it "just right". Be more nice than you currently are towards women? Well you are a doormat pushover. No one is attracted to that! Be less nice than you currently are towards women? Well you are a misogynistic pig. You deserve to be forever alone! Wha? Well you see, you need to be between 49.9% and 50.1%, not too much or too little. Unless…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/23 05:21 PM
6	The best city for dating men From what I've been able to Google, the wealthiest cities are all in the SF Bay Area. Not to mention SF has one of the lowest female to male ratio of any major US city. NYC is the opposite, consistently in the top 5 major US cities in terms of female to male ratio. So the competition would be fierce in NYC.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/11/23 05:55 PM
2	I feel like 80% of back and forth on here is this: A lot guys think their dating/relationship issues require drastic societal action or even government intervention while the other side argues it doesn't and should be their personal responsibility. many states are trying to tackle right now is homelessness, drug addiction, and criminal justice reform. You know what the root cause to these bad outcomes is? The rise and fall of single mothers, perfectly track the rise and fall of homelessness, drug issues, and criminal issues. The percent of single mothers rose from 4% half a century ago to close to 40% today. All thanks to welfare that incentives such actions. As others have said already, its government involvement that got us to where we a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/23 01:49 AM
7	I feel like 80% of back and forth on here is this: A lot guys think their dating/relationship issues require drastic societal action or even government intervention while the other side argues it doesn't and should be their personal responsibility. go back to times where women need men Women still need men. Its just that now we have the government as a middle man. So men went from being fucked by women in the literal sense, to being fucked by the government metaphorically.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 07:07 PM
9	I feel like 80% of back and forth on here is this: A lot guys think their dating/relationship issues require drastic societal action or even government intervention while the other side argues it doesn't and should be their personal responsibility. A lot guys think their dating/relationship issues require drastic societal action or even government intervention This is basically the exact opposite of what is said around here. Most are asking for drastic societal and government INACTION. To stop what they are doing. The idea is that if men are to take "personal responsibility" for their own problems, so should women. To STOP taxing men into funding problems that only women care about. The ask is for LESS societal action, not more. This is wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 06:33 PM
–	The final solution to dating Sex appeal, social skills, style, social status, money. Raise it all to the sky. Or choose a market where you are the best. We all know the Millionaire Chad AlphaBux get babes. The question is when you have none of those which one you should prioritize. Prioritize looks and sex appeal = Blackpill Prioritize game and social skills = PUA Prioritize choosing the right market = Passport Bros As the saying goes, "You can do anything, but not everything".	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/23 12:47 AM
-2	Radical individualism is what is making dating so hard for everyone nowadays I honestly think a lot of failed relationships and marriages could be saved if one or both parties actually took the time to compromise for the other. That’s what being in a committed relationship means. But it seems most people would now make slight lifestyle differences into actual dealbreakers. Think about your audience for a bit. Men around these parts literally say all that they ask for is for a woman to keep his stomach full and balls empty. There's not much more that a man can "compromise…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/23 12:07 AM
2	Is true love even real…? Cause you love YOUR dog Well this runs right in line with TRP's narrative. True love can exist with your dog, because it is YOUR dog. True love can't exist with your woman, because she is NOT your woman, it's just your turn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/11/23 08:45 PM
1	What is your experience with women who earn significantly more than their partners/husbands? I haven't seen the type you described all that often. Most of the time the "low earner" men still have high net worth, they just got born in a well off family. In the cases where it wasn't the cases, both of them are poor and low income. Doesn't really matter that a woman makes 2x her man, when her man's only making minimum wage to begin with.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/11/23 09:55 PM
5	Where's the logic behind the belief that "women prefer bad boys?" So where did men's belief that "women prefer bad boys" come from? There are so many reasons for men to believe this. One reason is that many men believe too much of women's lies. They've been fed the narrative that women are NOT shallow like men, and female attraction hinges on personality. So when they see Chad bad boy get all the pussy. They attribute that success to the fact that he was a "bad boy" instead of the fact that he was a "Chad". It is the lived experience of many men that women do …	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/23 02:01 AM
-1	What is the Your Ranking of What's Important in a Relationship? The things that are expected to be exclusive - i.e. Sex is usually exclusive among partners, so everything related to sex must be good. Sexual appeal, sexual values, sex drive, all of it. Everything not exclusive takes the backseat, because if she doesn't have it, I can just get it somewhere else. Low maintenance - Or in the more general view, similar values/goal. Life is suffering, and what I value most, what my goal in life is, is to lower that suffering. I expect the same from my women, that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 07:09 PM
15	Passport bros seems like a lot of work. Are things really that dire? Imagine leaving your friends and family, changing your address, uprooting your career, learning a new language, etc etc.... over the dating market. I feel like you think this is a bigger deal than it actually is. I've done as much just to get a new job that makes a few grand more. I don't see how I wouldn't do the the same for more sex and better dating, something arguably more important than money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/11/23 02:44 AM
-1	What advice would you give your sons to help them have stable healthy families in the West? Why the fixation on the West? I would provide for my son such that he can relocate whenever he wishes. Last I check, on average American man lives within 15 miles from his mom. So many men are fucked because of a simple lack of mobility. Yes, raise them in expectation that they can be top 20%. Who knows, maybe he's just a little piece of shit that won't ever succeed. But at least you've tried while raising him. Preventing bad behaviors is a lost cause. Its usually there to fill a void. Can't sto…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 11:14 PM
3	Question: if only around 17% of US males make at least 100k, are the remaining 83% percent doomed ? The end game is for the masses to own nothing and be happy with it. It is a frequent talking point for Tate that the days where a man can be average is long gone. You need to be exceptional. You need to be top 20%. For the average man it's just misery and suffering. Start your adult life by getting into debt for university certifications. Then you can have the privilege of selling yourself into corporate slavery. You will make just enough to be a Beta provider for a post wall woman, but never ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 08:03 PM
14	Do adult men without social circles really have a chance? Questions like these make me want to know where you live. Where I'm from people move cities all the damn time. Its basically New Job, new city. The transient nature means nobody has established social circle, and people are doing just fine (at least fine by modern standard, men of this generation are doing god awful compared to days gone by.)	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/11/23 12:39 AM
4	Women Choosing Better Men Of all the types of men listed, there doesn't seem to be any mention on looks. Makes me suspicious its just women having problems Chad-chasing again. Who know, maybe I've just been conditioned from being on this subreddit so long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 11:26 PM
5	The biggest mistake of passport bro Like most things there's a sweet spot, not too little, not too much. You want enough like minded people such that business catered to your needs would thrive, but not so many that it ends up crowded.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 11:21 PM
11	CMV: You can't expect women to believe that men are being falsely accused of being creepy without evidence. I believed everyone should be treated as innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof should be on the accuser, not on the accused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 04:03 PM
11	CMV: You can't expect women to believe that men are being falsely accused of being creepy without evidence. I've always suspected that men are basically guilty until proven innocent, its refreshing to see someone come right out and say it. Remember men, gather evidence ahead of time, you are gonna need it to prove your innocent should you ever be accused.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/10/23 03:53 PM
11	There is a disconnect young men face between prominent cultural values in dating vs most other things in life. Those are prominent LIBERAL values. Conservatives (the other half of the country) have a different view. Young men have issues? Your problem if you can't get dates. Born poor? Your problem, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Born stupid? Your problem. If you ain't smart enough to get scholarships, you pay for your own damn tuition. Pretty damn consistent if you ask me. No disconnect whatsoever. Its only the liberals that think all problems are societies problems (except men's problems because …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 05:16 PM
10	Getting upset over the word toxic masculinity is weird Too often you hear women talk about toxic masculinity, only to see that they themselves has been fucking these "toxic" men the whole damn time. When you see people reward behavior they claim to be "bad", there can only be two conclusions. Either the behavior isn't actually bad, in which case these people are lying. Or these people are just bad. Worst still is that these women then want to claim that sex isn't really a reward, and that considering sex as such is just another example of toxic masc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/23 04:41 PM
15	what is this notion "society" is supposed to magically "create" spaces for you to socialize if youre an abnormal teetotaller who cant just do what everyone has always done socially? You've got it backwards. The expectation isn't for society to create new spaces. The ask is for society to stop destroying old spaces. Our grandfathers between the two world wars would just hit up the office lady at work. Today society has deemed the same action as sexual misconduct in the workplace. The ask is not for society to create a new place for men. Its about giving back the place we've had in the past. It has never been clear whether sexual advancements in any social settings is desirab…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/23 06:40 PM
8	What exactly do men refer to when they say they have to put in “hard work” to sleep with a woman? "If a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house" Anything more than a simple life with an internet connection, is work put in to sleep with women. Everything from career and networking/socializing to fitness and fashion/haircuts is part of the hard work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 06:58 PM
1	What’s your gender, and what are the 3 most important qualities in your ideal partner? M. Values. A component of this is moral/sexual values. Whether a woman has "loose sexual morals" is make or break. A component of this is cultural/political. I'm not going to be some vegan cycling to work, just because a woman feels guilty about being with a man she perceives is contributing to climate change. Youth. A component of this is physical/sex appeal. A young attractive nubile woman beats out a post wall woman any day. Another component is mental/lived experience. I'd love to go around …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/10/23 05:32 PM
7	Do you look for your partner to be more similar, or more opposite? M. Its best to have someone that is complimentary. Yin and Yang for perfect balance and harmony. One person to bring home the bacon, the other at home to cook it. One that loves to be in the driver's seat, the other that loves being chauffeured around. One masculine, one feminine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/10/23 11:08 PM
15	You only think women’s standards are unrealistic because you view them as a monolith. First thing first, it was never claimed that women are a monolith. The stated statistic is 80/20. Secondly, whether we view women as a monolith or not, it doesn't affect the 80/20 breakdown. On aggregate 80% of women are attracted to 20% of men. It can easily be that 4% of the music loving women finding the top 1% of male musicians attractive, and 4% of athletic women finding the top 1% of male athletes attractive, and so on. We'd have 20 subgroups of women finding 20 subgroups of men attractive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/10/23 07:48 PM
5	How would you feel if he or she is with you for the money? Well I just see it as a fact of life. I'm of the mind that "all men pay for sex one way or another."	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 10:45 PM
40	Why are woman so annoyed by men finding their promiscuity unattractive when these same woman will invariably judge a guy that uses sex workers? Well, the men here have problems with both marrying pros, and marrying women who's had casual sex. So if anything, they're consistent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/10/23 09:14 PM
-1	What are some problems men face that isn’t caused by women? A woman's test in life is material. A man's test in life is a woman. Now by test, I mean that those are the things that we desire. Men have nice cars-- not cause they like nice cars-- because they know women like nice cars. That's how it goes. - Dave Chapelle Nothing. Its just a matter of how many degrees of separation there is between the problem and women. Men study, to be able to do their assignments, so they can get good grades, enough for admission into a good university, that would look go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 03:01 PM
37	Most young men struggle with dating because they were raised to be passive and afraid of everything. In many cases, its not so much that young men are being more fearful, it is more that young men actually have more things to fear. Our fathers and grandfathers, just asked out whoever they want whenever they want. They didn't have to be worry about the kangaroo courts expelling them from college, or things brought up to HR and getting fired, or getting their reputation ruined on social media. These things just didn't exist. It wasn't because older generations weren't afraid, it was because they …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/23 02:33 PM
3	Most guys who struggle in dating struggle because they don't have a social life. What this basically translates to is that men don't just need to be slaves, they have to want it. Men on this subreddit have lots of things they care about. Some habitually drink and smoke weed, others love anime, other still play video games with the bros. Of course that's not what you really mean when you say men need to care more than just sex. You mean men need to care about things that women find attractive. A man not only needs to slave away to do the things that women want to see in him, …	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/10/23 02:14 AM
16	Why do people think that looks matters so much ? Only girls that are really shallow cares about looks and nothing else. That happens to be quite the sizable percentage if the not majority of the girls (at least here in the US where I live).	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/10/23 06:07 PM
37	Most guys who struggle in dating struggle because they don't have a social life. There's a flip of cause and effect. Men who realize that socializing isn't getting them laid stop wasting their time socializing. The lack of sexual returns causes less socializing, not the other way around. You see men out and about socializing getting laid, because the ones that don't get laid stopped socializing. They realize their time is better spend doing literally anything else. The productive ones spend that time working overtime in the office or going to to gym and come back to socializ…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/23 10:40 PM
1	What will be the impact of intelligent life-size realistic artificial partners on the dating scene? Every time I see the topic come up I just think back to Futurama's Marilyn Monroebot. Damn I feel old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 08:51 PM
11	Most of the people who objectify their opposite gender have never been treated like an actual human being in their entire life and they need to heal instead of projecting their insecurities on social media Its the old saying that one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic. If all I have to interact with is one women for every time I need to get laid, then I might have the luxury to see her as more human. But when I have to swipe, text, meet, escalate, and organize logistics hundreds of times just to get a date that doesn't even guarantee sex, I have no other option than to see every single interaction as but a statistic. It has nothing to do with "how human" I've been treated, gender…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/10/23 08:25 PM
4	The single life is great. I recommend it to everybody Sex and relationships are way overrated Half true. Its true of relationships, but not true of sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/23 08:06 PM
3	Are you worried you might be in a dead bedroom someday? Once you’re married and have kids, it’s most likely she’ll stop having sex with you. Now what? Solution: Don't have kids. If a can kid do that, then I simple refuse to have kids. It goes beyond kids. Work is another example. If work can take that priority, then the solution is to go for women that don't work and just get a stay at home housewife. If something gets in the way of sex, I don't what that something in my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/23 01:05 AM
4	So who is really trying to fool themselves? Red or Blue? Blue pill fools themselves by pretending there isn't an optimal strategy for sex and romance. Some of those in TRP fool themselves into believing they know what that strategy is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 04:52 PM
6	Can't even blame em. I'm imagining it right now. If I were ever to lie and claim I am not privileged, you can blame me. If I am to ever be in such a position of privilege and still play victim, you can blame me. If I am ever to call women "pigs" and "rapists" for all wanting sex with me, you can blame me. If it was ONLY me being picky, then there's nothing to blame me about. But that's not how it usually is, is it?	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 01:31 AM
2	Thoughts on onlyfans? The thing is that when men have discretionary income they want to spend it on the thing they value, sex. The only outlet for that here in the states is OF. We don't have soaplands, pink salons, blowjob bars, etc. Its no surprises that OF is so dominate when there's so little competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/10/23 01:19 AM
–	How to become free? There are only two set of variables in life. Those that you desire, and those that you have. Suffering comes when the two set does not match. That suffering compels you in to live a certain way, and thus you lose freedom. Since there are only two set of variables you only have two solutions. Change your set of desire. In Stoicism and common translations of Buddhism it might be called getting rid of attachments. Change your set of reality. If it ain't so just make it so. Here's some examples: Eit…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 08:09 PM
1	Is anyone else amazed at how impactful the internet has become on attitudes to sex and gender? 10+ years ago when I was a teenager using the internet you wouldn't find stuff like this anywhere. *Looks to the PPD sidebar "a community for 10 years" "Created Aug 22, 2013" I swear 10 years ago no one would go on youtube to watch a video of a random guy in his room just talking about gender/sex/women/feminism. These kinds of videos get tens of millions of views now. I think you got the cause and effect reversed here. The real world has gotten more and more dominated by feminism, and become mor…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/10/23 07:39 PM
2	Explain the wolf of wall street Uh.. reading all the other comments here, clearly not. I mean, TRP would position higher than "honest people and nice guys" but that's a pretty low bar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 09:54 PM
2	Explain the wolf of wall street We were talking about wolf of wall street here. Not incels. Its completely distinct demographics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 09:44 PM
1	Explain the wolf of wall street he had to pay for all his pussy. For a lot of men that doesn't matter. Had sex. The girls were hot. Back in the day Hugh Hefner was the idol, and we all know he didn't get Playboy centerfolds fucking him for free.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 09:21 PM
0	Explain the wolf of wall street A dying breed, of HONEST PEOPLE. I'm reminded of the Dave Chapelle quote. "Chivalry is dead, and women killed it." You are right, good men, nice guys, honest people, all went the way of the dodo. But that's because a man's test is a woman. Men are adapting to the new environment where good nice honest men don't get laid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 09:11 PM
2	What actually is a "High Value Male" When the term "value" gets used around here, it generally means "market value." What the market pays the most for. In the labor market, high value is what employers provide the highest salary for. In the sexual market, it is what women provide the most about of sex to.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/10/23 03:47 PM
4	Why are so many men not willing to properly move on from women? (Serious question) You only "move on" if you don't want it enough, or you believe you are completely hopeless. MGTOW are those that do not want it (or want it enough to justify the costs). Black pill is for those that are (or at least hopelessly believe they are) basically genetically doomed to be unattractive. Red pill guys generally do not fall in either of these categories. These men love women. They love women so much, no matter how high the cost, they find it justified. They also believe it is possible to bec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 11:38 PM
7	If only "outliers" would be into you, then why not focus on those? A lot of guys here seem like ND, quirky, with vidya game or otherwise niche interests, so why not look for women like how you are? In many cases, staying in your own lane is actually harder/more competitive. Like think what this advice would sound like if you applied it to work. "Oh you like video games? Why are you focusing on those analyst/engineer jobs, you should just play pro!" Why? Because there's like a million gamers for every open pro gamer job, that's why. The same with dating. Like, s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/10/23 06:12 PM
2	It's a big world out there So... Passport bros?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 10:14 PM
0	Do you actually benefit from this sub ? it does feel very clinical As far as I'm concerned this is a good thing. What I want is a method to maximize sexual returns and minimize resource investments expressed in the most clinical/statistical way possible. Its not like I need to live Dan Bilzarian's Insta sex life, but until I can live a life where I can at least guarantee I have a women to keep my stomach full and balls empty, I don't have the luxury to not clinically analyze and optimize relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 08:58 PM
0	Men, would you rather treat a women like a queen or like 💩? Would you not want to be treated like a king Yes. I do. At the end of the day everything else are just means of getting a women that does that. I'm indifferent about how I need to treat a woman for her to treat me like a king. It just so happens that most of the time when you treat her like a queen, she treats you like a slave, and when you treat her like a slave, she treats you like a king.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/23 06:29 PM
1	Do men's options really go up with age and women's options drop ? I don't know if that's true. Its just a matter of how much of your value is dependent on your looks/youth. Women and Chad start with full value and lose it with age, most men start with zero value, so in a sense the only way to go is up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 08:50 PM
1	Q4A Do you see yourself being able to fall in love/have deep personal relationship with ai in the future? 30s M Sure. As long as it gets advanced enough. It might just be a machine, but I was never delusional enough to believe that us humans were anything but biological machines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/10/23 05:55 PM
14	A few of my observations in the medical field as a guy with the male/female ratio being 1:10 Am tech guy. Can confirm. Basically all the engineers that are fit and at least 6' tall has a girlfriend. The rest? Most likely not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 07:01 PM
5	How hard it is for you all to be social? Its not that difficult. I just don't like it. So its basically just work. Just as I put in my ~8 hours a day at the office to get paid, I put in the hours socializing to get laid. I do feel like I'm better at the work though, so its probably cheaper to just pay for it with money than with time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/09/23 12:29 AM
34	Q4All: What's the biggest lie you were told about the opposite gender that you discovered was not true as you got older? That women are somehow "oppressed" in the 21st century.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 11:50 PM
1	What's the best podcasts, videos, books for men to increase dating prospects? Modern Wisdom has some pretty good stuff. Right blend of guests for improving with sex, money, and the spiritual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 02:49 PM
1	Q4M: Your SO refuses to be emotionally vulnerable with you - Deal-breaker? Assuming everything else about her meets your standards. Would it be a deal breaker? No. Hell, its hard enough to getting a woman that's half decent nowadays. For her to meet all my other standards, she has to be a full fledge blue haired feminist or serial baby murderer for it to be a deal breaker.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/09/23 04:18 AM
–	The problem with a lot of the tropes that dominate this sub is that few here can separate results from lifestyle. One of the guys (or woman, horrors) who's shooting for it is going to get the cush management job, and the rest aren't. Well that's kinda the point. The frequently cited ratio is 80/20. Only 20% of men truly make it, and they are the ones swimming in pussy while the rest of the men wait on the sidelines.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 11:22 PM
–	The problem with a lot of the tropes that dominate this sub is that few here can separate results from lifestyle. There is an idiom in the South (USA) that older people often repeat, "We grew fat and happy together." The implicit fact here is that they were NOT fat when they were dating. They grew fat afterwards. What happens is that you have people who are fatasses at heart get fit for just long enough to get a partner, and then go back to their fatass ways. The rest of the stuff aren't really lifestyle issues. At least not in the sense that they require maintenance for life. Like yea, women want someone w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/09/23 10:29 PM
17	Are women's standards for men "high" or "superficial"? Something I stand by is that women's high standards are attainable, but never sustainable. Women go for the men that provider the highest highs, and drop these men when they inevitably can't sustain that. But by that point she already got married or had his kids. That's why you see the single mothers and divorces.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/23 11:27 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Only back in my school days. Now in the office, or work from home, I'd rather just make it when I want since I have access to breakroom/kitchen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 07:47 PM
13	Women are becoming more educated and wealthier because they aren't obsessed with sex. When men do better than women? Man bad. Man at fault. Patriarchy! Misogyny! When women do better than men? Man bad. Man at fault. Man obsessed with sex. Yep sounds about right for feminist talking points.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/23 06:32 PM
1	What, if any, is your concept of "fairness" in dating? "Unfair" is either acceptable or it isn't. Oh, you're born short and can't get a date, well you can live without sex, life isn't fair. Pay a hooker if you really have to. OK Cool. So you born stupid? You can live being illiterate, if you want otherwise you pay for your own education, life's not fair. Oh you born disabled? You can live with one arm, you pay for your own health care, life's not fair. Life's not fair, you deal with it. Now if we place expectations that "unfair" situations be rectif…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 09:26 PM
15	Have you ever seen a handsome and successful man struggling with his romantic/sexual relationships? And why? The struggles of getting sex and getting into relationships? No. The struggles that come afterwards? Yes. Sometimes its the struggle of getting her to stay. Most of the times its the problems of getting her to leave.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/09/23 06:08 PM
9	Best way to bag as a guy? Have a lot of friends/friend groups You’re invited to a lot more events. Men and women are just different with different interests. So there are basically two outcomes. 1:Men go to events enjoyed by men filled with other men. Its a classic sausagefest. You meet new people and make new friends, but they are basically all men. Sure, you have a big social group but like 5% of them are women. A 20 to 1 gender ratio is not a paticularly good environment for a guy to bag. 2:Men go to events they don't enjoy, but will have more women. It…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 04:02 PM
12	The Red and Blue Pill both agree that men must improve themselves, but word it differently just a bunch of organisations that tell us the world isn’t fair to us and then address that by telling us how to jump through their hoops. I guess this is where MGTOW and passport bros come into the picture. They also point out that the game's rigged, but instead of jumping the extra hoops, they find a way to not play the rigged game. Passport bros telling you there's a better game to play abroad, and MGTOW just saying lets not play at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 07:05 AM
7	The Red and Blue Pill both agree that men must improve themselves, but word it differently The devil's in the details. There are a bit of difference when the two pills use the term "improve". For one, TRP talk in relative terms, while TBP talk in absolute. TRP will tell you that hypergamy means you must improve to be the TOP 20%. After all, men are taller, more educated, more hygienic, and meet more people than our grandparents ever did when they were our age. No man should struggle unless its basically an arms race. Blue pill like to portray it as if men just aren't showering nowaday…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/23 03:41 AM
–	When we talk about the "average" person - realize you're talking about a 50 year old They're not including tweens in their average weight, height, etc. stats Well, the stats being 18 and above isn't really an issue. This is a sub focused on sex and dating, so if that age limit is an issue for you... FBI open up. Also, the difference between age adjusted averages is miniscule compared to the expectation expressed around here, so its almost irrelevant. Like, ok, the national average might be 45K a year when the dating age range of 18-34 might make 35K. The younger generations migh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 11:19 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Yes. I don't plan on just dying with the biggest bank account. The point of money is that it gets me what I want, and I want eye candy stay at home partner. Of course caveats apply. I'd sooner burn my money than raise Chad's fuck trophy. I ain't paying full price for used good. You know, the usual.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 01:01 PM
1	For those that worry about being the “best she ever had”… that IS going to lead to issues. They can lead to issues, but they aren't issues in and of themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/23 12:01 AM
0	For those that worry about being the “best she ever had”… Well why should I care? The reason I would ever care about not being the best sex wise is because that would lead her to want to fuck someone else better. I don't care about all the other shit because I don't care if she find someone else to provide her non sexual aspects of love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 11:51 PM
0	For those that worry about being the “best she ever had”… I have a problem with my women getting sex elsewhere. Other stuff, not so much. She thinks someone else cooks better? Fine, I don't mind if she eats out every day. She thinks someone else listens to her better? Fine, I don't mind if she can find someone else to act as her emotional tampon. She thinks someone else fucks her better? VERY MUCH NOT FINE. I DO MIND if she finds someone else to fuck her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 11:36 PM
2	Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10? I'd rather be top preference to a small niche. I want to be lusted after as a human being. If I was only broadly conventionally attractive, but no one's favorite, I'd need to compensate for that as a human doing. when it comes to partners, would you rather a partner have broad appeal or have niche appeal but be your top “preference”. As much as people like to project their need for validation, I want beauty and sex for the beauty and sex itself. My preferences are the only thing that matters. My…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/09/23 04:02 AM
4	CMV The Main Factor for Men who make bad dating decisions is lack off options. I agree on the correlation, but I find the causation to be backwards. The bad decisions come first and that leads to lack of dating options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 11:59 PM
1	Good Looks will become even more important in the coming future We can't obtain intelligence easily right now either. Sure AI is gonna get better in the future, but so will everything else. By the time something as complex as superhuman AI is achieved, it'd be trivial for technology to shape out bodies like video game avatars.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/09/23 01:26 AM
3	What is behavioral masculinity? Well most of the people that use terms like "toxic masculinity" are women. So start off with knowing what women want and you basically know what is considered "good" or "toxic" masculinity. Women are hypergamous. They want superior men, but for these superior men to treat them as equals. This right here should be everything you need to know. To BE a competent superior man is what women like to brands as "Good natural behavior masculinity" and to ACT superior and USE your superior advantage is wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 09:48 PM
–	On Nice Guys Every time the nice guy topic comes up it just reminds me of Scott Alexander Swap out poor minorities with nice guys and you have the feminists It was wrong of me to say I hate poor minorities. I meant I hate Poor Minorities! Poor Minorities is a category I made up that includes only poor minorities who complain about poverty or racism. No, wait! I can be even more charitable! A poor minority is only a Poor Minority if their compaints about poverty and racism come from a sense of entitlement. Wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 06:18 PM
–	Dating for POC I remember reading a chart shared right here in PPD, but the basic premise is this: The only people that get fucked over are Asian men and Black women. Unsurprisingly the winners are the White man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 06:05 PM
–	Why do conservatives/tradcons/redpillers etc obsess over career women or girl bosses and not the millions of women working low wage, low status jobs? they built in their heads and project onto all young women (particularly western or middle class ones). Well, we live in the West, and despite what you might hear about Western population collapse, or shrinking middle class, the average woman is western and middle class. Whether it be conservative or TRP, the talking points all revolve around the average man and woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 06:01 PM
1	How would you rate your looks? I'd say I'm a 6/10. I've had quite a few friends tell me I basically have the most generic face possible. I'm also exactly national average height. The only thing going for me is that I have a somewhat broad chest and shoulders so it basically creates this optical illusion where I look a bit more built and tall than I really am. So I'd say thats a +1 to an other unremarkable 5/10.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/09/23 12:35 AM
1	So I see men here say women having male friends in a red flag, but also that women are unreasonably mean to single men. How are women supposed to navigate this? when we are friends with men we don't want to fuck, men see that as a problem Which men see this as a problem? The men these women are dating. when women aren't friendly or down right rude to them when we aren't sexually attracted to them. Again, which men? The men these women are NOT dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/23 08:02 PM
0	What exactly do RP men want? The want for things to be fair, or at least equally unfair to everybody. This one statement is the distillation of all three points you started out the post with. Point one is that abortions aren't fair. It would be fair for men to have financial abortion option if women have abortion options. Failing that it would at least be equally unfair for men and women that neither can get any abortion. Point two is that the family courts are not fair. Or maybe you can say divorces can't truly be fair, th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/09/23 03:47 PM
-1	Q4All: Has anything you have read or discussed here actually changed your mind? If so, what was it? If a woman gives me the best years of her life, I would be there for her worst. Now if a woman spent her best years fucking Chad, I'd see no reason not to trade her in for a younger model.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 07:29 PM
1	Q4All: Has anything you have read or discussed here actually changed your mind? If so, what was it? My VALUES have not changed, but my views on WHAT TO DO has. So I VALUE a young woman over a post wall women. Never gonna change. I value low n over high n. Never going to change. I value sex over validation. Never going to change. I am solid in what makes a good and bad women, the question is just what I should do about it. Should I be a moral, nice guy who is more selfless, and believe that good things happen to good men? Or should I be more of a selfish asshole, as it is actually bad men that …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/09/23 04:21 PM
3	Would you date a gender activist (Feminist/MRA)? I assume that he/she is not: hateful hypocrite Well, that's every feminist in the West. So I guess if she is a gender advocate in the Middle East fighting for the right for women to not have to cover their face, sure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 09:01 PM
1	If some young men are genuinely struggling with dating compared to women like them and compared to more attractive men, is that a matter of inequity or inequality? The answer depends on whether you are blackpill or not. IF you are blackpill you see dating success as being solely determined by height and jawline. These things are genetic, and thus IS natural and inevitable. This is inequality. Now if you are NOT blackpill, you consider attraction to be more than just physical genetic attributes then it is inequity. For the sake of simplicity, lets say a man's attraction is weighted 50% income and 50% height. A short man with 100K salary would be a 5/10, a t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 06:18 PM
–	The problem with dating is that we know it is unfair, yet we ask for fairness still How do you think we can solve this? That some things are pushed to be fair, and some things not. When I was young, I've thought it would be great for everything to be fair. Just as everyone has equal voting, everyone has equal dating. Nowadays I push for everything to be left unfair, and just have trade and market forces even things out. One woman might be born with an unfair advantage in sexual capital, and another man might have an unfair advantage in political capital. The two can exchange wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/09/23 04:12 AM
–	Average Men Have Trouble Attracting and Keeping Women Because They Lack the Skills to Show that they Can be Capable Fathers We just want average, responsible men who can take care of themselves financially, help out around the house, and can provide the emotional stability needed to start a family unit. And yet, these are the exact men lamenting their lack of success in dating. When women see men like these, they'd call him boring, or more likely find him so boring they wouldn't even notice him. In many case men are learning they need to do the exact opposite. Maxing out their 401K in financially responsible, but max…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 10:58 PM
1	Could you fall in love with someone you don’t find physically attractive? Well, love isn't binary. Its not like I either don't care if you live or die, or will take a bullet for you. So is it possible? Sure. To what extent? Not much. Difficult to put a number on it, but my love for lust would take priority over the love for anyone I'm not physically attracted to, short of those I'm related to by blood.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 09:40 PM
0	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. went to a public school I (I guess, my parents, since I was school age) would have loved for gated communities and private school choice. But you know, public policy is that it doesn't enable diversity or equity or some bullshit, so I was stuck with the public version. I heard there are places where there is this school voucher thing that gives your tax money back for you to choose the private school of your choice. But the news came out a bit after I was of school age, so I haven't really follo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 02:48 AM
2	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. If you read through the other replies, I am being the change I want to see in the world. I've just choose the full capitalist route. Hence the "Give me back my damn tax money." The world sees it that sex is not a right and does not fund it with tax dollars, and I am using what little political power I have at the polls, to make it be consistent such that healthcare, childcare, and education are not a right either. I can take the tax money I'm getting back to fund sex. If anyone wants the luxurie…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/23 01:08 AM
1	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. sex is not a right Ok, healthcare is also not a right. Childcare is not a right. Education is not a right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 10:14 PM
4	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Grow the fuck up! You grow the fuck up and pay for your own damn life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:42 PM
1	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Cool. All I ask is that you be consistent and also believe that you are not entitled to the fruits of labour of others.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:35 PM
2	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. And how about ur taxes to going towards feeding prisoners, rapists etc? Wouldn't bother much dont you? Oh, it does bother me, that's why I'm pro death penalty. I hate having my tax dollars going to feed criminals. I'm stand your ground for the same reason. Ideally burglars get shot dead before the system need to waste anymore tax dollars on them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:30 PM
1	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Like I said, all I want is consistency. If you believe that I am not entitled to a woman's sexual labour then all I ask is that you view it that others equally not entitled to a single cent of the money I've earned with my labour. My choices were EITHER full socialism OR full capitalism. If you believe full socialism is bad as it would necessitate undesirable entitlements, then we go full capitalism. We go full circle back to my first post, "Give me back my damn tax money!"	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:23 PM
4	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. I'm not shocked, I've always known taxes to be legalized theft.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:10 PM
2	The men who say 'Don't chase Women' are actually the ones chasing women. True or false. True. I guess it could be false on a technicality. They don't chase women, they chase the things that make women chase them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:03 PM
-5	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. All I want is consistency. Go full socialism. Some of the fruits of my labour goes to helping others with their bullshit. In turn I expect others at a minimum to help me with sex, the literal evolutionary meaning to life. Go full capitalism. Give me back all my tax money. Other people have needs? They can pay for it themselves. Suck some cock for it if they have to. I have a need for sex. I pay for it with the taxes money I get back. Hey, we got a good exchange going here! Right now all I see is…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 09:00 PM
7	Women being stringed along by high value males(chad) is not their fault. in my era the girls usually stuck to dating within the friend group because it was a good way to vet men and their intentions for her. What's stopping women from doing that now? What, has the poundmetoo movement stopped women from being sexual IRL as well? They can still do that, they just choose not to. They know what they are getting, they just don't care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 08:51 PM
-2	you aren’t forced to date anyone you’re not attracted to. Nothing would be an issue if we aren't forced to care about them. People are picking and choosing socialism when it benefits them and capitalism when it doesn't. Its fine if you are a fatass, just pay for your own damn healthcare. Single mothers, you decided to fuck the convicts, you deal with taking care of his fuck trophy. Give me back my damn tax money, and I'll have enough to get myself an escort everyday. They pay and deal with their problems, I pay for mine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/23 08:43 PM
2	What can be done to prevent being trapped in a bad relationship? Invest in yourself, ideally in things that can't be taken away from you. Got an extra hour? Spend that hour studying or working out, not in the office. Your soon to be ex can't take away half of your Master's degree or your six pack, but she can take away half of your salary. Just another reason to be AlphaFux, and not BetaBux.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 02:40 AM
11	Q4M: what are the benefits of marriage you are willing to acknowledge? Dealing with the government. Whether it be legal or financial, you get fucked just a bit less by the state when you are married. Children. Kids born of marriage parents are better off in almost all metrics. If you love your kids, anything that makes their life better is worth it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/09/23 12:40 AM
4	Men's complaints about the state of dating all come down to this one inconvenient truth... market where you buy sex. Fundamentally that's what dating is. Its just a matter of paying with time or money. More importantly, it doesn't change the fundamental fact that we don't have a free market. We have way too many market distortions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/23 07:58 PM
5	Men's complaints about the state of dating all come down to this one inconvenient truth... The free market takes out those who can't compete The problem is that we DONT have a free market. In a free market we can buy and sell as we please. The buying of sex is out right illegal in most jurisdictions. In a free market there is free movement of goods and services. With good we call it import/export restrictions with humans we call it immigration. To bypass this we have the passport bros. In a free market there would be no taxes and subsidies. Where I live half the paycheck goes to the g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/23 07:26 PM
3	Do alpha males believe in monogamy? Men with higher IQs also tend to be BetaBux.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/09/23 02:40 AM
3	The Paradox of Self-Improvement and Attraction: Finding Unity in Duality Can we ever completely separate self-improvement from the desire to attract a partner? The problem is that the improvements that I do for myself and the improvements I do to get a partner are not the same things. Here's an example, lets say I get a haircut. Is this an improvement? Well I am now $30 poorer and wasted a hour of my time at the barbers. This is NOT an improvement to my life. I could have just shaved it all like it was Covid lockdowns and saved myself the time and money. A haircut ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 10:41 PM
1	Question for Red Pill I look at these people the same way I look at people who claim religious people are terrorist, or immigrants are criminals. I try to keep away from racists and feminists alike.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/09/23 10:05 PM
-1	Is the birth decline really only women's fault? Great example, women of color changes are twice as likley to die during childbirth than that of a white woman. Which is ridiculous to me because we both have access to the same health care and modern medicine, how is it that a black womans chances of survival drop even!? No, actually horrible example. Since black people are basically the only ones having kids nowadays. So of all the things, that can be blamed for low birth rates this certainly aint it. the conversation is always "Its women's fau…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/09/23 11:10 PM
4	Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childless Its not allowed in the most of the US either, and Nevada is certainly not home to 15% of the US population. I suspect quite a number of men travel or skirt the law a bit. Passport bros and sexpats aren't options exclusive to Westerners. Go the Thailand, and you'd find just as many establishments catered towards Japanese/Korean/Chinese men as those catered towards Brits/Americans.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/09/23 12:12 AM
9	Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childless Its always the middle class that gets fucked. Been listening to this guy named Stephen J. Shaw on a few podcast for anyone interested, but the data actually shows that the extremely wealthy and the extremely poor both have more kids. Its just that there are WAY more extremely poor than extremely rich people that it looks like its only the poor procreating. My theory: Poor: Have kids, the welfare states gonna be paying for it anyways. Rich: Have kids, its not gonna make a dent in out wallets. Mid…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/23 09:52 PM
8	Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childless I think its much worse if you consider sex work. I remember there was some statistics that in Japan ~40% of men has paid for sex at some point compared to ~15% in the states, and 80-90% in places like Thailand/Cambodia.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/09/23 09:49 PM
2	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? just get black pilled and hopeless. So what you have a problem with would be black pill, not red pill. You have a problem with men giving up after learning the truth of who women fuck, and not the men that work on being the man women fuck.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 07:40 PM
9	What is the goal in consuming RP dating content? This content just makes men harbour more resentment for women, which in turn makes them unhappier TRP does not create resentment and unhappiness in men. The negative emotions are already there before any man ever even knows what TRP is. Sex is a physiological need that many men do not have the means of satisfying. That right there is the root cause of all the bitterness and sorrow. All TRP does is explain the reason they are not getting their biological needs met, and in many cases it channels t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/09/23 04:16 PM
3	It is not your parents' job to teach you how to attract a partner Teaching your kids good relationship habits, the importance of things like consent, and making sure they don't get taken advantage of or take advantage of others, sure. Teaching them how to actually attract someone, though? No, that's not what they are there for. NO. If teaching them to pass their genes off to the next generation isn't there "job" then NOTHING is. I don't mind the dismissiveness of the need for sex, if it wasn't for the fact that you ask for us to not be dismissive of all the ot…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/08/23 07:04 PM
2	Redpill ideology is more damaging to men then good "There are no solutions, there are only trade-offs." TRP is no exception. Its solutions are also only trade-offs with positives and negatives. So saying there are damaging elements to TRP is simply true, that's just how trade-offs work. But the claim that there are MORE damage than good is quite the extreme claim. Unless you can provide an alternative that can get a man laid with more efficiency, I see all negative aspects of TRP acceptable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/23 03:55 AM
1	What if I'm authentically not happy being single? This isn't different from any other obsession or attachment. The question can easily be "What if I'm authentically not happy being poor?" or "What if I'm authentically not happy being fat?". The issue is that your desire aren't met in reality. There are only two variables here, desire and reality. So you only really have two options. Option one you take therapy/meditate/go monk-mode to free yourself from the desire. Doesn't matter what the desire is. It can be money, health, sex, relationship, a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/23 06:38 PM
1	Honest question: has your intense need for love and sex ever worked to actually get you those things? Definition of a NEED: something/someone you need in order to be happy and fulfilled Sex, you don't need to live. Like, if you need love or sex to feel worthwhile The definitions are jumping all over the place here. Sex: necessary for happiness? YES. This does not mean I am going to be suicidal without it, it just means I'm not happy. There is a neutral ground. Not happy, not angry, not anything. Sex: necessary for life? YES AND NO. Not on the level of individual survival, but it is a necessity b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 07:14 PM
1	Honest question: has your intense need for love and sex ever worked to actually get you those things? I don't see how the two correlate. Like, I have an intense NEED to live, but that need doesn't translate to me living any longer. Similarly I NEED sex, but the need itself doesn't automagically get me more babes. I've just come to accept that I'd get a century to live at most, and that I would be thirsting for pussy for most of my adult life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/23 06:44 PM
2	For those who believe in redpill dating should be the last of your worries Well that just refutes the title of the post. Dating should NOT be the last of men worries, it should be top priority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/23 03:12 AM
5	For those who believe in redpill dating should be the last of your worries Most guys who believe in redpill have a lot of issues or have not hit some major life milestones like being financially stable, having a great career, education, their own place. The sad thing is that for most of the men in TRP, the problem is that it actually was the last thing they worried about. They studied their ass off to get into a prestigious university, graduated with a STEM degree, went on to work at a FANNG (or I guess MANGA now?) company, and are now bringing in six figure salaries. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/23 12:15 AM
–	Final Solution for a declining population In one corner we have all the alarmist headlines that AI robots are gonna take away all the jobs for future generations. In the other corner we have alarmist headlines that demographic change is gonna mean there are less and less people to take on jobs. I'm tempted to believe the two are gonna cancel out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 09:37 PM
3	When Men lead with money but instead of attracting love, adoration and respect, get chaos and ruckus. it could attract partners who place a higher value on monetary assets rather than personal attributes, shared values, or emotional bonds. What type of attributes, value, and bonds are we talking about? The desire is for a woman to be attracted to me for my SEXUAL attributes, share my SEXUAL values, and pair bond with me through SEXUAL activity. In which case I would want to lead with sex. Of course if I was Chad I would do that, but sadly I'm not. So I NEED to lead with something else to get the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 05:13 PM
9	Your location is the biggest factor in success in dating We call it Sexual Market Value for a reason. Your Sexual Value is determined by the Market in which you sell. Change Economic geography or demography, and your Sexual Value will change with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/23 05:03 PM
3	A big bank account doesn't make you an alpha male. An "alpha male" in the traditional sense refers to someone who exudes confidence, leads by example, and is respected by peers. These qualities are intrinsic No they aren't. Just as you can lose wealth, you can lose confidence and the respect of your peers as well. The people who rely on money, have to work their ass off in the office to maintain wealth. The people who rely on confidence has to work their ass off at the gym/training, to maintain the level of looks/competence necessary for confide…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/23 06:52 PM
2	Should the higher earning partner delegate their household work to the lower earning one? A more important question is who wants it done and why? Its almost a trope that women pester their man to buy throw pillows. Then they get naggy about how he isn't cleaning and organizing all the pillows he only bought because she wanted them. Another example is that of a clean freak. We see this especially prominently after Covid. Some people live normal life. Others want to have every surface disinfected before and after every use. Covid policy is that we provide them with cleaning materials s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 08:10 PM
5	How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies? Like all other subjective labels, the answer usually comes back down to rule 1 and 2. If you follow the rules, everything you do is interesting. Break the rules, and everything you do is boring.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 07:26 AM
3	Why do you think so many women are sexually attracted to K-pop male stars ? They aren't malleable by individuals, not ethically anyways. Pop culture is basically grooming on a mass scale done by businesses. Bombard kids with a manufactured ideal and make them emotionally invested, and surprise surprise they grow up being attracted to that ideal. Kpop has been prominent for close to two decades now. I vaguely remember hearing about people like Rain and BoA back in the day. The kids are now grown up and now find people like that attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 12:58 AM
2	Why do you think so many women are sexually attracted to K-pop male stars ? With enough billions of dollars of advertising and promotions, you can basically make anything attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/08/23 12:15 AM
2	Today society is PERFECT for men I don't know where you're from, but for me here in the US, it certainly ain't it. Who knows, maybe the passport bros were right all along, and the perfect society exists today, its just a plane ride away.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 11:11 PM
-1	Should a person in a relationship be allowed to see other people if their partner doesn't want sex? Yes, not only to sex, but in general. If I don't want to drive her, I'd expect her to Uber/Lyft, not just rot at home. If she doesn't want to cook, I'd be ordering out, not just starving. Sex is no different. If there is anything either one of us are unwilling to do for the other, then its there is nothing wrong with getting it elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/08/23 04:56 PM
2	Ideal Scenario for Men and Women constant state of zen So... like Buddhist monks? They don't enter relationships at all. In many cases they actually leave the family they already have. To me sex and relationships go hand in hand. Either I enter a sexual relationship, or no relationship at all. Its either TRP or MGTOW.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 09:28 PM
4	Red pillers, what made you believe in what they preach? Take a look at my username. I live my life based on statistics. I do the things that statistically gives me the highest expected return. TRP isn't always correct, but it at least operates within this framework.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 06:07 AM
10	Why cant men immediately withdraw all their money and flee the country before a divorce to save their assets. If you are rich, its not worth it to basically be on the run for the rest of your life. If you aren't rich, you probably need to collect social security/pension to live at some point. Kinda hard to do when you're on the run.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/08/23 05:46 AM
1	If you don't find a partner, are you ready to live alone for the rest of your life? Depends on how optimistic/pessimistic you are of the future. If you follow the likes of David Sinclair or Andrew Steele and think there's a chance that science can cure aging within the next half century, you'd very much want to live long enough to benefit from it. I would hate to die the year before biological immortality is invented. If you have faith in technologies like neurolink, it wouldn't matter how frail your real body is. I'd want to have as many years as possible in the hedonic experi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 07:41 PM
5	How come TRP doesn't teach betas in how to become alphas? TRP give the entire toolbox. It teaches the importance of alpha/beta, game, looks, money, status, the list goes on. Its just natural that for a sub that's been around for a decade to have shifts in focus from time to time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/23 02:07 AM
11	Is it bad to only like super clingy girls? I see no problems with it. I think its cute and endearing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/23 09:30 PM
19	Are some people fine with going without love or a long term relationship? Humans are social creatures This is true in the sense that "humans are sexual creatures", or "humans are omnivorous creatures" is true. Just as the sexual and nutritional needs vary from individual to individual, so does the need for social interactions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 10:58 PM
23	Q4M: Would you date a mediocre woman? Sure. As its been said many times around here: Women start with all the value to lose, men start with zero value with all to gain. To be NOT any negative attributes, basically makes her perfect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 08:48 PM
1	Dating in the west is a people problem, not a woman problem, and that problem is centered around an attitude of entitlement. We just added an intermediary step. We can now ask who are the ones that are pushing for school to teach victimhood and entitlement? Answer: feminist women. Instead of blaming them for dating, we blame them for the attitudes and culture that is affecting dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/23 01:48 AM
2	Russell Wilson: A Shining Example of a Healthy Alpha Male You've described a lot of things that are good about him, but nothing that is good about BEING him. The definition of an alpha is that they have preferential access to resources and mating. Does he get more sex? Does he have sex with more women? Does he get more money? Does he have a more pleasurable/comfortable life? If not then he is simple someone for us to admire from afar, not an alpha male role model for us to strive to be.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 10:46 PM
12	Differing cultural norms makes almost any debate useless? People around these parts flip flop on this constantly. When manosphere says AWALT, blue pill goes on about how things are different among different cultures and social circles. When manosphere talks about being a passport bro to take advantage of differing cultures, blue pill goes on about how all the women abroad are no better than those at home.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 08:18 PM
3	How much of a turn off is astrology when a woman heavily believes in it? Maybe I've just been surrounded by American women too much, but if that was the worse thing about her, I'd be dancing with joy. If I find a woman that isn't a feminist, isn't fat, isn't promiscuous, and isn't a nag, the fact that she reads horoscopes just seem so trivial and insignificant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 07:01 AM
1	Is TRP mostly an American thing? Different countries might have different weighting in what is important, but the fundamentals of TRP are everywhere. Men in Korea or Hong Kong are talking about how feminism ruined their local female population. Men in Japan or Taiwan consider women to hit the wall as they age. Men in China are going to be to talking about status and game. If anything TRP is more common outside the US, they just don't label it "The Red Pill".	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/08/23 12:13 AM
1	Spending $200k for sex I’ll be spending the same amount if not more taking them on dates, because my lifestyle is just expensive This line right here just makes so much sense to me. The mans gonna live his life. It costs whatever it costs. When he dates, the cost doubles. If he can just pay her and have it cost less than dating its just the smart move. He said he doesn’t have time to text girls and take them out and play the waiting game. Even if he does spend any money on dates, at the end of the day time is money. F…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/08/23 04:16 AM
3	Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commit Men acquire more options when they go out and meet more women. A good public example I can think of off the top of my head for not acquiring options was the news story a few years ago that Mike Pence wouldn't eat dinner alone with any other women other than his wife. For more personal anecdotes, my faithful friends spend their nights with the boys or just don't bother to go out at all. Almost always, the men that go around partying and meeting new women, eventually cheated on their gf/wife and f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/23 08:20 PM
14	Men don’t have commitment issues any more than women but women tend to go for guys who have no reason to commit A faithful man wouldn't bother acquiring option, but then women don't want men without options.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/23 07:14 PM
17	Would you rather have sex with a fat 20yr old or a fit 50 yr old? Both options depict a fuckable but not particularly attractive women. One would likely have been dicked down for the last few decades, while another likely just entered the exploration phase of life. I'm taking the 20 yr old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/08/23 02:09 AM
16	Many of the problems in the dating landscape can be attributed to a lack of viable social venues for young people. We've probably meet 10x more people at 10x more social venues than our grandparents ever did. The problem was that our grandparents might have just picked the most suitable of 10 encounters and married that person, while nowadays we have people meeting 100s of people before even considering it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/08/23 06:44 PM
34	Men are hypergamous when it comes to looks The common RP retort would be the men are polygamous, not hypergamous. They would fuck the younger prettier women, AND fuck the aging partner. Its the classic mating experiment. Survey students if they'd want members of the opposite sex in their class. Men would say all of 'em. Women all point to the same few high value man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/23 01:22 AM
0	What do you hope to gain from the red pill? What do you hope to gain from the red pill? Concerning the title question, my main goal is simply to learn sexual economics. I hope to maximize sexual return on investment. Minimize cost and risk. Do the cost/benefit analysis, weight the risk and reward, find the best option, and execute it. Simple as that. The body of the post just sounds more like political polarization. The title can be "why voted for Trump/Hilary" and the body would still make sense. Angry feminists on the left, Trump voters…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 10:09 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Ranked in order of outcomes for kids Married parents > Cohabitating (unmarried nuclear family) > Single The higher the risk it is for the man, the lower the risk of negative outcomes for the child.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 08:02 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Kids raised in nuclear families out perform those that are not in almost all conceivable metrics. You don't "need" to marry but the expected gains your child gets outweights the man's expected lose (at least in the minds of men that care for their kids)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 07:44 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread Its a sacrifice done for the kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 07:33 PM
21	Q4A: Suppose an average guy changes bodies with a top tier guy. How would their lives differ, and how do you think would they react to their new lifestyles? We don't need hypotheticals, we have real life examples with people getting cosmetic surgeries. The average man has so much to gain from changing his body, he'd willingly break and reform his limbs and face. It'd be amazing to get that for free overnight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/08/23 07:10 PM
3	Self Improvement WEEKLY DISCUSSION TOPIC With the right incentives, I'm more than willing to basically do anything. But, I'm not going to brainwash myself that the things I do are somehow intrinsically good. I've done a lot of what people here would consider self improvement. But I don't consider doing all that stuff fundamentally good. The effort is put in to be attractive, and use that attractiveness to get laid. Take that away, and I'm not wasting my resources. If not for sex, I'm dressing for comfort, not looks. If not for sex, I'm…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/08/23 05:08 PM
15	The greenpill is a true and genuine solution to modern dating The problem is that too many men bring the America with them. We see it happening domestically with the Californians. We all know the story, Californians ruin their own state, move out of state to escape the shithole, then proceed to turn their new home state into a shithole just like California. If passport bros become common, it'd not only inflate prices, but also the egos of the local women. It'd just be America 2.0 in no time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/23 01:24 AM
1	CMV: If the only reason you’re improving yourself is to get laid, you’re making it more difficult to get laid self esteem and self worth. When did this ever come into the conversation? And why is it even questioned? I don't look at stoics or Buddhist monks and think to myself, hey they must have self esteem and self worth issues. Why is it that when the manosphere incorporate aspects of its philosophy, its suddenly put in to question? nothing matters but sex Unless you're some religious nutjob, the default is "nothing matters" full stop. Biology makes it such that sex matters once you hit adulthood, so …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/23 07:49 PM
3	CMV: If the only reason you’re improving yourself is to get laid, you’re making it more difficult to get laid Remove the goal of getting laid, and you also remove the essence of what makes all those things "improvements". There are corners of the manosphere that do not make it a goal to get laid. They call it "monk mode". Or they reference stoicism in some form. Takes sex out of the equation and all the other worldly desires go with it. If I wanted to improve for a better life (in the absence of getting laid) I'd live a minimalist life that required as little work as possible, not work more. I'd seclude…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/07/23 07:04 PM
0	How often do you see relationships where the man is significantly more attractive than the woman? The majority of relationships where the women is post wall. Generally younger women are more attractive than younger men, and the reverse is also true, older men are more attractive than older women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/07/23 01:49 AM
5	I don’t see the appeal of marriage Why would a sign a contract to make a man think it’s my primary duty to cook, clean, and do the childrearing while holding a full time job? All your problems with be solved if you just got yourself a BetaBux. By definition he has a decent job, so his employer likely provides free lunch and dinner, so you'd never have to cook for him. The baby rabies come mostly from women, so not hard to find one that doesn't want children. And, well, no man ever expected the full time job thing, that is straigh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/23 04:35 AM
2	What would you do if you had the ability to change your sexual orientation? If only I could be as sexual attracted to lefty and righty as I do women, I'd be living every day in constant sexual bliss.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/23 02:11 AM
1	Is it wrong to track data in your relationship? There's nothing wrong with that. In fact most people track data. They may not have it all documented in a spreadsheet, but they at least have ballpark figures within their minds.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/07/23 11:03 PM
2	CMV: Getting married is one of the worst decisions a man can make Most people will be better off in LTRs and monogamy and marriage. Th alternative is the weird uncle who lives alone and collects cans. Yes. I would guess about 80%. For the other 20% of people, they would be better off not in LTRs. The other uncle who retired early( from all the money he didn't waste on getting marriage) and is travelling around fucking babes half his age. It is common terminology to call the first group Beta, and the later group Alpha. If you don't like the terminology, feel fr…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 01:11 AM
3	CMV: Getting married is one of the worst decisions a man can make The sad truth is for many men it actually is the best decision they can make, because the alternative is just so much worse. Too many men have been feed the Beta diet since birth. The alternative of offering LTR to women and having women get bored or them, is to not offer LTR and not have women interested in them to begin with. The alternative to getting divorce raped, is to die without passing on their genes at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/07/23 12:34 AM
1	If I need to be perfectly happy alone for a partner to find a partner to like me, why would I want a partner in the first place? why would I want a partner in the first place? Under Option 1 of "happy alone", you wouldn't. Under option 2, you would.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 08:03 PM
26	If I need to be perfectly happy alone for a partner to find a partner to like me, why would I want a partner in the first place? There's a fundamental disconnect about how "happy alone" is achieved. Lets use a basic rational assumption, A man hates working and making money, and loves luxuries and spending money. How do we get him to be happy? Option one: Stop wanting luxuries, and as such you no longer have to do the thing that makes you unhappy. This is analogous to manosphere's monk mode. Stop wanting women, and you no longer need to deal with any bullshit. What else can you call a life by yourself without suffering but…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 04:53 PM
9	Single PPD men and women often have very inflated standards as to what an “average” partner looks like Another example of how men can't win Big breasts/glutes/thighs Medium height Blonde hair / blue eyed Friend of mine dated a flat, short, Asian girl. People were making fun of him for being a pedo. Can't like anything small, otherwise you're a pedo. Can't like anything just right, since then its inflated standards. Its like Goldilock, except she can only choose too big. Its basically shaming men into liking big landwhales. College educated Stable family background Ok, lets go for girls from broke…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/23 01:10 AM
2	Q4M: Would you rather be needed by OR wanted by a woman? Biological beings are optimized for activities that lead to successful reproduction. It is only to that end, that survival is necessary. It seems like you might have view points that do not agree with this, but that is a cultural value judgement, not the scientific one. The scientific view is that biological beings are to live, have sex/reproduce, and die. Having sex to reproduce is a need, living into old age is not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 08:02 PM
2	Q4M: Would you rather be needed by OR wanted by a woman? It the same with wanted. If you're wanted, you're only kept around until you are no longer wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 07:13 PM
1	Q4M: Would you rather be needed by OR wanted by a woman? Is this a fetish Do we have the same definitions for those words? Wikipedia would have it that sexual fetishism is "fixation on a nonliving object or nongenital body part." There is nothing in my statements that indicate that. I need women for sex, and as such I hope women need me for sex. My needs are as vanilla as it gets, and the prioritization of my needs are all in line with Maslow's pyramid. I just can't perceive how this can consider the unconventional take here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 07:07 PM
2	Q4M: Would you rather be needed by OR wanted by a woman? Needed. I've always used the Maslow's hierarchy as a framework. What we call need is just what's at the bottom of the pyramid, and what we call wants at the top. I very much rather be on the bottom of my woman's pyramid. I prioritize a woman a-dick-ted to me on the bottom Biological/ Physiological needs level. then affection from the middle belonging and love needs level, and am least concerned whether she integrates me in the Self actualization level at the top or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 06:45 PM
2	The easy fix/s Since it is acknowledged, here's my biased perspective. Service industry is awful. It is so awful, that it'd feel like sweet release if you ever get fired. As such, you don't give a fuck about HR guidelines, and can be more sexual with people. If it actually gets you laid, great. If HR find a problem with you, also great, you leave customer service hell and rejoin the living. The same can't be said of any job you actually care for.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/07/23 02:02 AM
2	What kind of awful redflag behavior would desperate people tolerate, that normal people wouldn't? We've all heard it: Don't stick your dick in crazy. Not enough heed to advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/23 12:32 AM
1	If you struggle with dating, you are BELOW average Everyone, literally everyone, is going to be above average in somethings and below average in others. For some people, it just so happens the one thing they are below average on affects their dating life. This does not make them below average as a whole. They simply didn't know what women prioritizes and made the mistake of focusing on Beta qualities instead of Alpha ones.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 05:33 PM
9	Would you rather be forever alone or sugar coat (lie about some aspects) of yourself in order to get into a relationship (no matter how stable it is)? Lie. I need a paycheck. To that end, I've lied 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week claiming how I enjoy working, or want to learn on the job, or love the mission of the organization, etc. If I can maintain that, I just don't see how I can't maintain any lie I made for sex and relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/07/23 01:49 AM
1	Why are human attracted to “bad” role models? People have role models that are skilled, capable, talented, and powerful, independent of whether they are a good/bad person or not. Say what you will of Andrew Tate, Cardi B, and all the other bad role models, but they are all indisputably talented. At the end of the day that's all that really matters. I don't care how they live their lives, I want to learn their skills and be powerful enough to decide for myself how I live my life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/07/23 03:06 AM
1	Is your partner's needs not about you? Are you comfortable having someone else do it to your man/woman? No? Then you need to do it. It is fundamentally unreasonable to not do something for them AND expect them to not get it somewhere else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/07/23 08:54 PM
0	What are your thoughts on Jordan Peterson’s dating advice? JP is a good... Christian. The only way any of his advice makes any sense is if you believe in God (or the meaning/purpose to life bullshit that God personifies). The JP meme is just him selling meaning for a reason. I personally am more of a combo of TRP and MGTOW. TRP is about maximizing value. I love this rational approach, but JP would disapprove of it as too hedonistic. MGTOW minimizing attachment, and thus problems and suffering associated. I consider it close to Buddhist enlightenment. JP…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/07/23 08:15 AM
2	[CMV] You have to PAY in order to be loved Unconditional romantic love doesn't exist, because it can't be unconditional, there are conditions like: work on your looks, work on your confidence, be masculine/feminine, have a stable financial situation Although I kinda agree that all love is conditional, there needs to be a distinction between being loved conditionally on you as a human BEing, or a human DOing. My mom loves me, but it is still conditional on me BEING her son. I didn't have to do anything for that love. I can be in a coma an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 08:48 PM
1	What are some examples of hypocrisy? How do you define it? How do you guys define hypocrisy? I do not consider behavior relevant, as long as the values and definitions are consistent. If you exhibit asshole behavior, you are an asshole. Same with me, if I exhibit asshole behavior I am also an asshole. As long as I admit the same behavior is defined the same way for both of us, I am not a hypocrite. Whether I actually exhibit asshole behavior or not is irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 04:40 PM
2	Men are not sexual savages, they have been taught they are they have been taught they are The title claims that men value "sex" because it was taught to them. The body claims it is similar to how men value "high income, looking ripped, etc" because it was taught to them. The problem I'm pointing out is that it is simply not true that men inherently value the "high income, looking ripped, etc" so to try to draw similarity here doesn't really work. We can ask for answers to why men seek sex. But the claim its just because society has taught it to them ain…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 07:32 AM
6	Men are not sexual savages, they have been taught they are Society has taught men that they are not valuable if they aren’t held to certain stereotypes. Whether than be making high income, looking ripped, being the most dominant, least emotional. When a man isn’t all those things, which truly aren’t indicative of worth nor value. They devalue themselves as society has. It might ring hollow for the demographics around here. Half the men here specifically don't value those things, and do those thing only to get laid. It is because they do not inherently v…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/23 01:05 AM
42	Should a man be required to support an ex-wife for the rest of his life? Alimony implies that a woman NOT working a job, and spending time at home with the kids is a "sacrifice" for the family, while men working, and NOT being able to have time to see the kids grow up isn't a "sacrifice." So while women get to have men compensate for them for lost earning potential, men are suppose to just suck it up that his kids don't recognize him since he was working 16 hours a day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/07/23 08:50 PM
2	What's more important, finding one person who loves you completely or being desired sexually by many people? I personally believe quality over quantity. The issue here is that I don't agree with your definition of quality. Finding one person, that is "good" by TRP standards (10/10, loving, submissive, virgin, housewife, etc), is better than being desired sexually by many people. If that one person is "good" by BP standards, I'd rather be desired sexually by many people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 08:36 PM
2	Things that folks that want to do passport bros/sis need to know Youre doing passport bro, to go date a chick that works? Not after she gets with me. The assumption that women would work as a tea lady/office lady for a few years until they find themselves a man and quit isn't that farfetched. Depends on the degree, i think those passport bros destination have an even greater emphasis on education Lets be real here, what degree do you think men around here have? To have gone through college and come out looking to be a passport bro. Its gonna be one of those S…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 03:22 AM
1	Things that folks that want to do passport bros/sis need to know They have less technology and less opportunity, what else are they going to do to pass the time? If it is a poor country, they would be spending their time working. Putting in the grueling hours as they have few opportunities for anything else. If the country is rich, then they'd have the same technology as we do. Do you think there are people out there, learning YOUR language, waiting for you to come and get into a relationship with them? They learn the language for work. We all hear jobs in ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/23 02:46 AM
8	Are there any men that actually want to be sold providers? preferably not want to work and any income I acquire would be mine only How to fuck does that even play out? Like there are ways to get an income without working? The only thing I can think of would be something like if you won the jackpot. In which case, as much as I'd love to be the breadwinner of the household, I'd be pissed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 09:36 PM
2	TRP is common sense explained to autistic men - CMV women like decent-looking women love mature guys Claim TRP is bad for using generalization. Proceed to use generalization.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 06:23 PM
28	Q4M: an enthusiastic 3 or a starfish 10? I see a lot of people answering "Neither". I would like to answer with BOTH.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 04:33 PM
3	Who's getting more success and who you'd prefer: B. As a man, I don't even see anything listed as negative. "Sloppy clothes" is just a different fashion. "Slim and not muscular" is the ideal body I want from a woman. A genetically gifted woman SHOULD let her natural beauty shine without bothering with presentation. It all sounds too vague so I'll just paint a real life scenario. Ever wake up next to an attractive woman? She's in her worn out but easy to sleep in comfy clothes. She still has her bedhead. She's still drowsy and shuffling around …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/23 04:21 PM
6	Who is there for you through the highs and lows is of incalculable value Generally men are low value when they are young, and rise higher in value as they age (at least when compared to women). This has been something said by many RP men. If a woman stayed with him when they were young, he'd value her into old age. It just doesn't happen often outside of religious communities.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/23 03:20 AM
-1	CMV Its so hard to become High Value as a Man, that its absolutely logical that most men off this caliber want to have sex with other women besides they're Wife/Girlfriend, i am really curious if someone can change my view on this. I thing this is why TRP say women want "naturals". The ones that are just born into a rich family, inheriting the good looks of a trophy wife mother and social network of his high status father. The grind is grueling, it almost necessitates that any man going though it have the pay out of sex with other women to motivate him through it. But if you remove the grind, then that problem disappears.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/23 08:15 AM
0	Being a passport bro isnt going to fix you're problems There's a lot of bullshit packed into this post, but Brett Cooper did a decent video on passport bros recently so I might as well have her do the talking and leave it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctH2hW_Ojf8	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/23 05:47 AM
4	Public/social life (what little there is) is totally hostile to single men WESTERN Public/social life (what little there is) is totally hostile to single men FTFY. Now you know why Passport bros are increasing in popularity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/23 08:20 PM
2	Would Men's Drive for Achievement and Success be the same without women ?? We already have men who rid themselves of desire for women. They are called monks. Monks basically seclude themselves with hermitage and live simple lives. Can't help but see some similarities with the trends of "MGTOW" and "lying flat."	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/23 05:29 AM
8	Many men still clueless as to how to attract/date women, despite there being more information than ever on how to do so - why? Its the paradox of skill. Sure, individuals today are on average better than those decades prior, but that is true for every other man. Success is not determined by how good you are, it is determined by how good you are relative to your competition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/23 04:07 PM
3	The Sexual Revolution is ultimately driven by capitalism/consumerism. I find it humorous that you'd link the two given sex is one of the few things not legally traded. If capitalism/consumerism truly had its way, we'd have blowjob bars on every other street corner. Think of the GDP figures and tax revenue if we bought and sold sex properly.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/06/23 12:29 AM
2	Do men really care about anything other than a woman's looks when it comes to attraction? Wow, that girl makes me laugh my life easier! That's so hot! Wow, that girl is really good at playing guitar cooking! That's so hot!	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 09:19 PM
1	Women DO LIKE nice guys who treat them right - but men don't understand female language - CMV On a realistic level, the downside of nice far outweigh the upsides. Sure, when you ask a women in a purely hypothetical scenario where all else is equal, she would go for the nicer guy. But reality is never all else equal. You aren't a nice guy just by saying you are. You have to devote time, money, and effort into doing nice things to be a nice person. Since resources are finite, it means you have less resources to devote to everything else. It mandates a trade off, a trade off that is never w…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/06/23 06:58 PM
13	What do you think of the concept of ‘true burning desire’? I find in a lot the these discussions, we need to fix the focal point. When you have a women that is not actively lusting after you, you already have a problem. The fact that she has enthusiastically fucked other men in the past is just a multiplier to this issue, and not the source of the issue. We have an issue, even without her having any past partners. The core problem is that we have a women that is being a bad partner by not providing sexually. This is what we need to focus on. By allowing…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/23 10:30 PM
1	Unless You’re Content with Mediocrity: Dating When You Aren’t The Best Version Of Yourself Is Mostly A Waste of Time We really need to drop the whole "best version of yourself" bullshit. If the "loser version" of a person is someone we loses games playing CS:GO all day, the "best version" of them would simply be someone wins games on CS:GO all day. In both cases, they ain't getting laid. What would need to happen is to stop playing games, or to put it bluntly, to stop being themselves when being themselves ain't working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 09:09 PM
–	we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single moms In the real world, all you have to do is just look at the man they fucked. And here in the virtual world, its literally what half the women on this sub say. They might not call the guy Chad, but you'd see comments along the line of "I'd rather get a sperm donor than be with a subpar man." all the damn time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 08:51 PM
–	we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single moms Men regularly lie to women Women regularly go for men that lie to them. FTFY. Men have the issue too, its just coming from a different place. In both cases its founded on stupidity, but with women it is mixed with delusion, and with men desperation. Women too often believe their high standards are reasonable. If a person only applies to jobs advertised with million+ dollar salaries and employed by a Nigerian Prince or Sultan of Brunei, It is hard to feel pity for them when they tell me they got …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/23 08:24 PM
6	Discussion : Why shouldn’t there be “losers” in the dating market? Why is it wrong a lot of men will lose out? That's when free market works. I lost out on X but not Y, you lost out on Y but no X. Now I can trade my Y for your X. If we fix your lack of Y but not my lack of X, this breaks down.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/23 06:14 PM
1	The vast majority of single men could get a girlfriend by losing weight and spending a few months at the gym. Change my mind. It is A solution, but for many men it is (in perception or reality) not the BEST solution. Personally, I find gym to be middle of the pack. Is it better spending your time at the gym than, say, spending your time being nice and helping women? Absolutely. Is it better to spend the time/money/energy at the gym than, say, investing in yourself intellectually at school, or financially at the office, or socially at networking events? Well, that's up for debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/23 11:43 PM
-1	Why would studies show straight men and lesbians are more likely to be fat than gay men and straight women? 1- Dating women is more stressful, and stress promotes weight gain. 2- Women in general have a laundry list of items that they find attractive and expect from their partner, so people dating women have more time and energy diverted away from fitness and into things like money and status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/23 11:11 PM
2	What role do you think socioeconomic status plays in dating? In our modern capitalistic world, socioeconomic status is everything. Time = Money. The more money you have, the more time you can buy back. You pay a bit extra to get driven to your destinations, while the plebs spend extra hours taking the bus. You order your food, instead of wasting time cooking and doing the dishes. Etc. Of course you can waste away all those extra hours on weed and vidya, but if you spend just a portion of that extra time bettering yourself, the advantage you have is so lar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/06/23 02:41 AM
2	You cant hate the opposite gender and expect to succeed in dating Really, what is love? That you like something only because it is objectively valuable and superior? Of course not. Its the exact opposite. Love is when you like something DESPITE knowing full well that it is objectively less valuable and inferior. The fact that I know all the faults of women and STILL choose to be with one should demonstrate just how much I LOVE women, yet to you that demonstrates hate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 11:27 PM
14	Maybe the issue is the extreme bitterness toward women so many on this subreddit lament their horrible luck with finding women to date, and assume zero responsibility This can't be farther from what is advocated on this subreddit. Every other thing you considered "hatred towards women" has been the topic for self improvement for the men here. Women choose men for money, so this sub advocates for MEN to start making more money. Women only date tall guys, so you read stories here of MEN breaking their legs with surgery to be taller. Women cheat of goo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 06:11 AM
6	Would you rather be a tall, good looking (high functioning) autistic guy or a short unattractive neurotypical guy Tall and good looking all the way. A short unattractive neurotypical man can compete and have women choose to have sex with him. A tall good looking man don't need to compete. Women fight over each other for the opportunity to fuck him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/23 05:54 AM
5	Question for men: do you think your life would be better if you were less horny? I'd probably be living life like a Buddhist monk if not for the need for sex. I'm not intrinsically attached to material possession, relationships, or emotions. The only reason I ever accumulated any of them was for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/23 10:41 PM
–	I can't get a job because the job market is so bad :( What's the industry? The recent tech layoffs fucked me over. Not to mention the equity part of my compensation just turned to monopoly money over the last year.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/23 07:57 PM
2	If you aren't Red Pill or Black Pill are you Blue Pill by default ? The different pills denote different ways of playing the game of sexual dynamics. The default is actually just not playing the game at all - MGTOW.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/06/23 10:52 PM
13	How many people on this sub actually want casual sex? I want sex. All types of sex is good (given its with fuckable women). Doesn't matter if its casual or not. I don't like to jump through hoops, in any context. Again doesn't matter if I'm jumping through hoops for casual sex or not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/06/23 07:34 AM
57	What is the source of men's motivation for working hard? Life is suffering. All my hard work is just to make it suffer less.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/23 01:16 AM
–	How is status determined in a jobless AI-dominated future? The standard Alpha/Beta/Omega status will still apply. If you are Alpha Chad now, you would still be Alpha Chad with AI. Women are still gonna love the six foot, the six pack, and the six inches. The Betas are the ones that are developing the AI. They'd be more than thrilled. If AI succeeds, the RSU alone is gonna make their past six figure paycheck look like peanuts. The only people who are getting screwed are the omega losers. Which is what's happening right now anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/23 04:12 AM
1	Would you give up video games for sex? Sure. Giving up video games is just such a small price to pay, given that there are so much entertainment out there. If it isn't video games, it can be youtube, tiktok, porn, manga/anime, reading, etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 11:12 PM
–	If you were a GENUINELY nice, good guy with strong character and maturity - You’d just let being rejected slide and be happy for people you’ll whine and complain This just shuts down debate. "Your niceness isn’t getting you anywhere". That is just a factual statement. We can argue on whether this factually statement is true or not true. But to call it "whining and complaining" is just a shaming tactic so common they have a page detailing it on TRP sidebar. A truly good man, is nice and kind because he has abundance. He is strong and confident and interesting and is happy for people when they’re successful in life or love. There …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/23 06:22 PM
0	Would you donate an organ for your partner? We've redefined so many words, they've lost all meaning. What is a criteria's of "partner"? Under a traditional framework, where I have a woman that has sex with me and only me, does her part in allowing for an efficient division of labor under a housewife/breadwinner dynamic, and properly mothers our children? Sure. That is a partner that I'll donate an organ for. Under the modern feminist framework? FUCK NO. I ain't given that hoe anything the other guys didn't have to give her to fuck her. I'…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/05/23 05:17 AM
2	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value Shitty guys who succeed in the successful market have possession of other variables The thing is that being shitty in many cases contributes to you acquiring those other variables. For example, being "shallow and vain" would cause you to make yourself better looking. Being "greedy and selfish" would cause you to acquire more money. So what you have isn't a poor ugly guy trying to be shitty. You have a rich good looking guy that IS shitty. Conversely trying to be less shitty, contributes to you a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 08:04 PM
5	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value Women pick shitty men to fuck all the time Women pick (blank) men to fuck all the time. Solution? Be more (blank). If women fuck "shitty" men, it just means, men need to be more "shitty" to fuck. Some people seem to be clouded by moral judgements. "Shitty" is a characteristic, not a lack of characteristic. While some say women fuck criminals despite them commit crimes because of their "lack" of self control, we realize women find men who are "spontaneous" attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 07:12 PM
2	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value Except (American) women are already walking away rather than lower their standards. FTFY. A 50th percentile man by American standards is a 5th percentile man by international standards. Many Americans might decide to be unemployed rather than take a $15 an hour job, while many foreigners can only dream of making that much in a week. Similarly what is considered lowering standards to an American woman, is the dream man on the international market. And if the lack of true perfect information preve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 06:47 PM
11	CMV Women's standards aren't high enough and men are overestimating their value But, again, according to economics, the value is determined by whatever the market will bear. The problem is that we do not have a "perfectly competitive market". 1) We have issues with "barrier to entry". An American company needs to compete with foreign companies who can do it cheaper due to free trade agreements. An American woman, need not compete with foreign women due to immigration laws. 2) We have issues with taxes and subsidizes. Chad can father a child, and then have Betas pay taxes to…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:56 PM
6	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread All that really matters is the ordering. Women overwhelmingly get with alphas first then with betas last. Women give their youth to one type of men, and expect another type of man as she gets old. As a man, all I care about is to be the man that gets the women when they are young and attractive. IF (and that is a big IF) a woman married a beta at 18yo, and divorced to fuck the alphas in her thirties, I'd willingly be a beta. But it just so happens women generally do it the other way around. They…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:23 PM
2	Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks Discussion Thread What if she balloons up after eating the wedding cake? Should men just divorce her? Should men have vetted more to know better that she would be the type to do so? If men are expected to stay when women become lower value as they age, it seems reasonable for men to expect women to stay with him when he was young and lower value compared to women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/04/23 05:13 PM
11	CMV : women genuinely want attention and affection from their man, and attention and affection genuinely causes attraction towards that man to drop It's simple supply and demand. Men have relatively high demand for sexual affection. So women can flood him with a high supply of sexual attention and affection, and he will still price it fairly highly. Women have a lower demand for men (at the very least from average men, if not all men). So it doesn't take very much supply for the price to drop to the floor for her, and for her to be uninterested.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 09:35 PM
4	Why aren't the women you mutually consented to hookup with, not seen as ltr to you guys ? If the sex was good and the vibe was right, why not continue it? The continuation of casual sex is... more casual sex. Not LTR. There needs to be an incentive to invest more for a LTR. Will I be the one and only person she has sex with? If yes, then yea, that's incentive enough, let me go get that ring. But that's unlikely given she's down for hookups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/04/23 03:04 PM
12	Do TRP men even have interests outside of getting laid? Of course RPers have interests. Just not the ones women consider attractive. You know, like video games and, well, jigsaw puzzles. Its one thing to do the stupid shit women find attractive to get laid. I'm willing to do that. Its a whole different thing to brainwash myself into adopting a completely different value system to enjoying that stupid shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 05:43 PM
0	American capitalism has destroyed dating You make it sound like capitalism was just invented. We literally fought an entire cold war under the banner of capitalism. If anything, we've gone less capitalist in recent years. Its actually inversely correlated. What I have seem as positively correlated, is Feminism and regulations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/04/23 12:35 AM
18	What effect do you think video games are having on male dating and mental health? You know what people did before video games? Instead of playing Forza, they drag raced down the street. Instead of going to the strip club in GTA, they whoremongered IRL. Video games are almost never the cause, it is almost always the symptom.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/04/23 10:32 PM
18	Adin Ross is the perfect example of what happens when young impressionable men take the red pill None of this is what TRP did to him. It is what other people and society did to him. If an abused child got hit everytime he ran away, would you say "Look that's what running away does to you"? I don't know the man, but all I see described here is a man sick of being abused by feminists (extremists) and being punished for speaking out about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/04/23 07:42 PM
0	CMV: What’s the point of marriage when it only benefits women? Kids. The point of marriage is to give your children the best you can give them. It sucks for the man. But in almost all cases, it's a sacrifice men are willing to make for their kids.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/23 01:44 AM
6	Which would you prefer: a partner who experienced ample love and companionship before they met you or who lived a life of mostly loneliness and frustration? I want a partner that appreciates the good I do for them, and not one who takes it for granted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 08:06 PM
-1	Why not look for a woman with a career? You know who has careers? Certainly not young people. Going after women with careers is basically going for women who gave their most valuable years to someone else.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/23 05:35 PM
14	Men who want women in their early 20s should just date them when they are in their mid 20s with the men who realize that they need a caretaker once they get old and are aging out of the “women find me hot” phase of life lol. Another example of why men need to work towards being Chad fuckbois. They at least get to live out a youth where "women find me hot" before getting shit for trying to settle down with a nice young lady. If you just a Beta that spend your 20s studying, and grinding at your career, and working on yourself, you don't get the young women when you are in your 20s, AND …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/23 02:44 AM
1	Making $80k+, going to the gym, and reading a book every 8 months won't cut it when it comes to self-improvement Nope, it can actually take years, depending on where you're starting from and what results you're trying to achieve. Around these parts, this is a lose lose strategy. 20yo man asks, how do I fuck hot 20yo babes? You need to spend years to self-improve. So he spends a decade doing so and comes back to ask, how do I fuck hot 20yo babes? You gross disgusting pig, you should date women your own age. Literally no winning.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/03/23 06:29 PM
-1	Discussion: What happens when you come across the virgin who won’t sleep with you casually or doing dating? No sex before marriage? Easy solution. Just get married. Risk divorce rape? Sure. But even if that happens it would actually be worth it since you got her chastity and youthful years. Something that can't be said of the average woman.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/23 04:29 PM
2	Levi’s will ‘supplement human models’ with AI-generated fakes - People here are underestimating the impact of AI The models weren't necessarily "real" before AI. With the amount of Photoshop used, they might as well have been computer generated. The whole brain implant thing is basically the experience machine thought experiment. I for one can't wait for it to be invented, so I can plug myself into endless bliss and pleasure.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/03/23 07:24 PM
3	What are some things you like about being your gender? The male body is just superior. Just seeing the shit women have to do to maintain their bodies seem tiresome. It only gets worse for them as they age worse. Even dieting seems harder for them, since they get to eat less with their smaller bodies. The online space. I truly believe our physical world (here in the West) is tilted to favor women, but at least in the virtual world I'd much rather be a man. Travelling outside of the West. Quite a lot of places I would go as a man that I wouldn't go if…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/23 03:43 AM
–	Wanting a woman with a high sex drive + low BC + is attractive is odd, to say the least. If you're in ur mid 20s, and are a virgin, are attractive, and are a female Bad assumption number one. Men want to marry women in their prime. Ive watched some Dailywire content after they nabbed Jordan Peterson, and when the hosts talked about their own marriages, their wives were 20 when they married. So even younger when they dated. I look at my aunts and they all married in their late teens. Attractive women get a consistent stream of sexual offers Bad assumption number two. No matter how at…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 11:25 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread The focus has always been on Looks, Money, Status. It's 1/3 of the equation already. I'm wondering just how much more emphasis we need to put on finance for it to be appropriate to you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/03/23 08:08 PM
1	Guys. Would you date someone who is boring, timid, and not funny? Ladies, how about you? I find in many ways, if anything, its a plus to find these characteristics in women. In life, more often than not, the best answer is the boring answer. Exciting too often just translates to doing stupid things so you have a cool story to tell. I find women being shy and timid super cute. And being funny is just an optional extra, after all, I find the vast majority of people not funny.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/03/23 03:11 AM
13	I wonder if many of the guys that cannot date are actually enjoying the suffering The follow up question with the "never try, never fail" is whether it is rational. I never played roulette in the casinos because I know the odds are not in my favor. No one would say I "feared" loss if I avoided casinos. This is why we get so much heated debate about how much it actually costs for men to date women, and how likely men are to succeed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/03/23 06:49 PM
1	Some in The Red Pill claim they've recently gone mainstream. Yet young men, their target audience, continue to vote for the left by large margins, despite TRP blaming left-wing identity politics for a lot of men's dating struggles. How do you square the two together? Seems like you could be anti-feminist on both sides of the aisle. https://www.splcenter.org/files/gender-roles-gender-identity-1png "they asked men of different age groups and party affiliations if they believe feminism has “done more harm than good.” Not surprisingly, of younger (under the age of 50) Republican men, 62% agreed. But of younger Democratic men, 46% agreed"	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 03:57 AM
-3	Do you really want a stay at home wife? The important thing to me is that I get a young, hot, sexually compatible woman. How much she makes is so far down the list of priorities, its basically irrelevant.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/23 03:00 AM
1	Would you date a meth addict? It's a matter of how men and women are grades. Women start at 100 given she has the looks and get marked down for faults, whereas men start at 0 and get marked up for achievements.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/03/23 06:51 PM
11	Men who want to move abroad to find love - why? The financial burden will be entirely on you. Suggest splitting the bill over dinner she’ll laugh in your face. Sometimes I wonder, are people here just that fucking poor, or do they just have unrealistically high standards of living. My pet theory is that all those people who say "it's just normal to have the social skills to get laid", are the ones who put so little into marketable skills to get paid.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/03/23 06:04 PM
4	Thoughts on the future of RP? Its only the westernized population corrupted by feminism that is breeding themselves out of the gene pool. The other half will fill in the gap in due time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/23 10:34 PM
2	Does The Red Pill cause unhealthy attachment issues? maintaining that mindset when you’ve got your shit together When you don't maintain the mindset that got you your shit together, you won't have your shit together for long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/02/23 09:10 PM
22	Adults of PPD, do you have friends who just can't get a relationship despite being good potential partners? Literally every man I know that is under 5'4''. I'm going to wager its not a coincidence.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/02/23 03:06 AM
1	What do you think of same sex cheating, compared to opposite sex? My starting point in relationships has always been that sex is a need. If your partner can't give it to you, you have all the right to get it somewhere else. I do not have a vagina. So I do not see issues with my woman enjoying some vagina somewhere else. Now if she wants the D, I'm providing it. So if she gets dicked down elsewhere, we have a problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/02/23 07:54 PM
10	Do men really think 30 year old women are past their prime? I'm in your target demographics, and I find 30 yo women as attractive as they can be. But I would never consider them for a serious relationship. A 30 yo woman brings 10 years less of youth to the table than a 20 yo woman. This is true no matter where you consider the wall to be. No amount of personality or wealth can make up for that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/02/23 08:00 PM
6	For those concerned with body count... Jesus, what the fuck is the obsession with anal when you have a perfectly fine pussy right next to it. I for one am way more interested in the other hole next to it. If I want pussy and she said no pussy, I'm gone. If I was your hypothetical anal-loving guy and a women said no anal, I'm gone. There is literally no good answers here. I likes pussy (hypothetically anal). I don't get pussy (hypothetically anal). Why? Answers I can think of: A) She intrinsically DOESN'T like cock in pussy (or anal),…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/23 02:41 AM
-1	For those concerned with body count... Here's the thing with questions in general, I start asking them when a woman first utters the word "no". If a woman does everything and anything I ask of her, I don't really give a shit about anything else, I'll just enjoy life with her. Now I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say this is not what happens the majority of the time. At some point women become uncooperative, and problems arise. This is the point where I ask questions. The sole goal of this is to answer whether it is acceptable …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/23 11:16 PM
1	Most of you guys are not redpilled. You’re just mad. Since when did the consensus change from TRP space being filled with betas to that of omegas? It used to be that we kinda just agreed that TRP was filled with betas Men who were productive members of society, paying taxes, and getting fuck by society instead of women. Basically the stereotypical introverted software engineers. They were successful financially, successful academically, but unsuccessfully sexual. Men who (wrongfully) assumed the type of success they strived for would also lead to …	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/02/23 01:04 AM
8	The Red Pill believes in a concept called Hypergamy - the idea that women are biologically or naturally inclined to pursue men of higher status than themselves. Yet, statistics show that almost 40% of women earn more than their husbands. This proves Hypergamy is a myth and TRP at its core is a sham Decisions mean nothing in the absence of choice. It doesn't matter how a man is compared to a woman. It matters how a man is compared to all the other men a woman realistically can get. Some women marrying LVM does not contradict hypergamy. Only when most women marrying LVM when they have the option to marry HVM would it be substantial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/02/23 11:33 PM
2	What is the actual point of PPD? no progress is ever made and no one is ever convinced of anything "The best way to learn is to teach". It doesn't matter if anyone else gets anything out of it, as long as you do. same arguments and assertions over and over and over again The same reason I do the same repetitive movements over and over at the gym, or flip the same stack of flash cards over and over again. As I repeatedly do the same thing I get better at doing it. I can draw parallels with my career. I login to my bank account a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/02/23 08:03 PM
24	Women's attraction is overrated by men “There are no solutions. There are only trade-offs.” female attraction > your hobbies, personality, self-identity. Which is... pretty sad? This line of logic can be applied to anything. When you go to work: Career > hobbies, personality, self-identity. When you go eat clean and go to the gym: Being fit > hobbies, personality, self-identity. We can go on and on. There is nothing wrong with this, as long as it is a means to an end, not an end in of itself. With work, I trade 8 hours a day doing th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/02/23 02:15 AM
14	Men: what would you want for Valentine’s Day? Vday for men is just Steak and Blowjob day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/23 05:04 PM
-5	What is your ideal relationship dynamic/partner? they don’t actually like them on a fundamental level, beside what they can “bring to the table”. As the saying goes, "women need to be wanted, men want to be needed.". Women can actually bring little to nothing to the table. In a sense, women needing to rely on her man is a plus for many men out there. I’m talking personality traits, values, interests etc. Men love personality. It's just that men like feminine personalities, not feminist ones. The personality that actresses portray in JAV/Brazze…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/23 05:02 PM
2	Q4M: What gives you the creeps? I've had "creepiness" described to be as an information imbalance. A creep is someone that sees you and knows stuff about you, while you don't see them or know much about them. The classic example of a creep is the superfan stalker that knows everything about you and watches you without your knowledge, while you know almost nothing about them. A more modern example is how "creepy" big tech is in seeing everything you do online, while you know nothing of their algorithms. This applies almost dire…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/23 12:06 AM
–	Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level? So you're saying that we should be spending tax dollars to combat macro trends in society? No. I am pointing out the absolute absurdity of it all. Spending tax money on what we spend it on now, is no less absurd than spending money on getting men laid. Do you agree on spending money on getting men laid? No? Well, I don't agree on spending money on things that don't lead to men getting laid. So how about we don't do either, give each of us our tax dollars back and let us decide how we spend our m…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 04:15 PM
–	Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level? Suffering, again mean different things to different people. What is the definition of suffering? One prominent thought is it is simple unfulfilled desires. I WANT (blank) and I don't HAVE (blank). We can fill in the blank with anything. It could be wealth, youth, health, sex, housing, or ice cream. Who decides what is more important? I for one agree with Dave Chapelle, "if a man could fuck a woman in a cardboard box, he wouldn't buy a house". Sex is literally the biological reason for existence.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 04:04 PM
–	Should it be acceptable to take actions at the personal level which destroy society at the macro level? Who is to say what is "good" and "bad" for society? The problem we have right now is that we have feminists as our political masters deciding that for us. We are actively taxing productive men to subsidize Chad and the single mothers he creates. We are preventing men from getting into college and getting jobs in favour of women for the sake of "diversity". I don't trust anyone to decide what is right or wrong. Just let the free market decide. Its not the perfect, but damn its the best we ever ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/02/23 03:52 PM
2	If you are a man and you want sex and relationships but aren’t able to get them, you have no right saying women’s standards are unrealistic You can’t blame you not getting what you want on somebody else’s standards being unrealistic Sure, now apply this to women and society at large as well. Otherwise if its my damn responsibility to pay taxes to fund what others want, others better be ready to take blame if I don't get what I want.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/23 05:59 PM
4	Alpha widow ? The issue with the alpha widow discussion is that you only ever make it when something has already gone wrong. Here's the starting problem: women are not fucking a man as quickly, or as frequently as he likes. This is bad for him. It is only at this point that we come to the alpha widow question. Why does he have to endure this when previous men in her life did not? Why is his treatment worse? Is it because there is a difference between him and the men she precisely fucked? The alpha widow conve…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/23 08:03 PM
8	Is it better to be hook-up material but not relationship material, or the other way around? Hookup material all the way. The biggest issues is the AFBB ordering. The Hookup material guys get girls when they are young and attractive. Relationship material guys got to wait until the hookup material guys are done with 'em. I can imagine an alternative universe where women married at 18 as virgins to the relationship material guys and divorce the man at 40 after the kids have grown up to fuck all the hookup material guys. In that case, I would love to be relationship material. As it is, ha…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/01/23 12:11 AM
22	Newbie Question: Why did Pick Up Artistry become more right wing? As the saying goes, men didn't leave the Democratic party, the Democratic party left men. Men have stayed roughly the same, it's just that the left has gone so far left nowadays, men seem closer to the right in comparison now.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 10:24 PM
3	Shouldn't the point of TRP be to understand the other sex better than to just hate them? TRP doesn't hate women. TRP only hates women according to BPs definition of hating women. The problem is the definition of hate being used.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/01/23 05:11 PM
–	Your 15yo daughter comes home and says she's deeply in love with this 30 yo guy. He wants her to come to an eastern european country to marry her. How do you react? would respect the masculine principles of fatherhood. The two questions don't link well. I don't see being in the father's position is a good idea to start with. I would much rather be the 30yo man fucking young attractive babes than to be the father of said babe. IF I was put in his position, than I would do what I can to stop it. But I also know that in the 21st century, there are little father's can do to stop their daughters running head first onto the cocks of bad boys	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/01/23 06:53 PM
52	Why are men here so opposed with being the nice guy a woman means and ends up with later in life? Even if what you say is true (which I have my doubts about), so what? Everything you said benefit WOMEN. Not one sentence describes a benefit for MEN. It doesn't matter that WOMEN "see you as a husband, lifelong partner, and eventual father". What matters as a MAN, is that MEN get a "wife, lifelong partner, and eventual mother". Being "always there for her", and "the one she feels safe with" is a benefit to WOMEN. It's fine to benefit WOMEN, but in return MEN want a woman that always devoted her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/01/23 12:57 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread hot, loyal, shares my values These things are only relevant in the context of a women fucking me. Doesn't matter how hot she is if I can't experience it through sex. I might as well watch porn, if all I do most of the time is just looking. Loyalty also means fuck all. Sure she's not fucking other men, but by your very definition, she's hardly fucking me either. Shares my values? Well I value sex, that's the green flag out the window. The best she could ever do is not raise a red flag. By which s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 06:37 PM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread For the most part, I already have everything I want (aside from sex), so she ain't really bringing anything to the table here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/01/23 06:02 PM
18	Saw this earlier with the roles reversed, so let me ask: Men, does it matter if a woman is a loner? Why or why not? If anything its a plus. One plus is that they are less likely to partake in parties and hookup culture like you said. But more importantly is that it just makes things easier. Loners tend to be loners because they don't like to go out all that much. So much less maintenance required. Of course all this is on the premise that the loner and non-loner are equally hot. A significant number of loners don't like to go out because they have bad experiences when they do. Bad experiences only experienced…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/23 12:27 AM
1	What other inequality do you care about besides sex/attractive inequality? The way I see it, all inequalities are interlinked. So I care about all inequalities, at least in the sense that I care about its impact on downstream issues. IE: Without Equal Opportunity in employment, we get uneven distributions of wealth, which in turn means less resources for self improvements such as for health/attractiveness/education/etc, and that then means less sexual success in the sexual marketplace.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 11:22 PM
8	What do you make of the merger of the red pill with politicians in America? The study also found 38.85% of the incel participants classified as right-leaning, 44.70% left-leaning and 17.47% centrist It doesn't seem like incels have a particular political leaning, so I don't really see it being politically targeted. I feel like TRP and greater manosphere community wouldn't be that different politically. The "Grab them by the pussies... they're too ugly to rape" stuff wasn't really planned to begin with anyways. They were all off stage comments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/01/23 07:30 PM
7	Is it possible to find men who do not put a huge emphasis on looks? Men do love women for their personalities. Just not the personality feminists promote. In many cases it is because men have such a hard time finding women with feminine personalities that they give up and just go with the hottest women they can find.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/01/23 03:09 AM
3	Low inhibition is the most important trait a man can have. The next question is who has low inhibition? Who doesn't give a fuck? The people who have nothing holding them back either have nothing to lose, or has more than enough to cover the loss. The far ends of the spectrum The people who has nothing to lose are the criminals. The drug dealers and pimps. They are already used to going in and out of jail, they already have the criminal record that bars them from legitimate success. They don't mind crashing the car, since it was just stolen anyways. Prob…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 11:52 PM
65	Do you guys think there will be a "bachelor" Tax in the west at some point due to declining birth rates and men opting out and breaking the social contract? We already have that. It's just that instead of calling it higher taxes for bachelors, they call it tax savings for married families.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/01/23 12:44 AM
2	What self improvement does manosphere offer to men that fitness, finance, fashion, social skills, etc communities do not? If MGTOW was really about getting away from women, why would the community discuss and put down women all day long instead of getting together to discuss their actual hobbies and interests that do not involve women? This is core to all communities that are based on reason and not emotion. When you view you decisions as but a lifestyle choice you don't care about anything else. But when you make decisions rationally you must prove, at least to yourself, it is better than all alternatives. In the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/01/23 10:23 PM
–	Daily Community Chat Megathread The world is overpopulated anyways.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/23 09:27 PM
6	Analysis Paralysis and the Anxiety of Failure in Red Pill Men The biggest problem with all these type of post is that they come with an assumption of emotion, not reason. Men are mostly rational. The reason men do (and don't do) certain things is because of the risk and return, not some "anxiety of being hurt" bullshit. Men are doing/not doing something in regards with women? Well that is because the risks are high and/or returns are low. That's it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/23 09:14 PM
19	Guys who are red pill on here, would you be red pill if you were attractive and could get any woman you wanted? TRP is both descriptive and prescriptive. TRP states facts as facts. It describes the world as it is. In that sense I will always be RP. TRP also prescribes actionable advice to those who have problems. In this sense I won't be RP if I can get any women I want. As a rational being, I only take action when there are incentives to do so. If I can have any women I want, there are no real incentives to make any action at all, let alone RP actions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/01/23 07:21 PM
2	Q4A: What do you think would happen if men stopped giving so much attention to women? Take a look at what happened back in the day. If it wasn't for sex, then it would have been for children, extending the bloodline, combining resources, etc. Romance and love as the bases have never been the case, except when it was built on top of a foundation of sex and lust.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/23 08:05 PM
1	You have to have an unfulfilling life if you go into a relationship NOT prioritising sex Sex and passion isn't forever but a fulfilling connection with an intimate loving life long partner is. NOTHING is forever. Your line of reasoning (at least in the beginning) was basically Buddhism 101. Life is suffering. Everybody gets old, gets sick, and dies eventually. Nothing is forever, nothing is permanent. The problem is that right at the end you carve out having a life long partner as being forever. To that I call Bullshit. They can also change, or leave you, or die. And then you are le…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/23 08:18 PM
17	The whole “Women reward bad guys with sex” complaint isnt just misogynistic. It’s misandranistic too. You say their views are misogynistic. You say their views are misandristic. But you never say their views are wrong.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 05:09 PM
2	Are your dating experiences normal? And their experiences are not radical enough As the Buddha said, Life is Suffering (I've been told "life is radically dissatisfying" might have been a better translation). ALL aspects of life is "radical enough" to develop a philosophy around, to bring science into, and to intellectualize. Do you feel like you are similar to or different from you peers? I am simply suffering through dating, suffering through life, like everyone else. If normal, why is your perspective (and experiences) radically…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 04:32 PM
3	Men aren’t attracted to real women anymore it’s STILL not enough. Enough for what? You want enough for likes on Instagram and general attention on social media that rivals Elon Musk? Yea, you need to be more than average. But if you just want to be enough for men to simply be attracted enough to you for sex, the average woman is more than enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/22 04:08 AM
1	Is there a single strict attractiveness hierarchy or several hierarchies? Is there a single strict attractiveness hierarchy or several hierarchies? Of course not. We need to keep 80/20 in mind though. In the most simplified version, we can consider a world where we have a 20/80 Alpha/Beta ratio in men, and 80/20 alpha-loving/Beta-loving ratio in women. What happens? The 20 alpha men pick and choose 20 out of 80 of the alpha loving women. Top 20 out of 80 beta men get chosen by the 20 beta loving women. Remaining 60 out of 80 beta men get settled on with the other 60 o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/22 09:32 PM
0	The current state of the dating market is the natural result of what happens when both men and women have free choice. The only reason men had more options before was because of the patriarchy In a completely free world Sadly that is not the world we live in. Try not paying your taxes and see how free you are. Of course we hear the slogans that "its for our children" or "its for what everybody needs." In which my response is, its not for "our children", in today's dating market its for Chad's children. Its not for what "everyone needs" because I for one would much rather have shit healthcare and die a decade earlier if I can spend that tax money on sex instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/22 02:18 AM
5	Can you honestly say that you have necessary prerequisites to speak on behalf of HVM? nobody will bend over backwards and stay a submissive hot virgin to keep a guy with this salary So this is your definition of HVM? A man with enough value to make a women bend over backwards and want to act submissively to keep him around would be considered HVM? The problem I find with this definition is that its relative. While women like to date up, men habitually date down. In which case almost all men are HighER Value Men to some women, to make her want to be his submissive housewife. Its j…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/22 07:46 PM
5	Can you honestly say that you have necessary prerequisites to speak on behalf of HVM? I feel like we are gonna have issues with moving the goal post with such vague descriptions. they make like $80,000-$100,000 https://dqydj.com/income-percentile-by-age-calculator/ I just googled an income calculator. Using the lower bound of income (of the only metric you listed), $80,000 puts you above 79% of the US population at age 30. Even higher for people in their 20s (the dating population we care most about around here) Traditionally, TRP uses the top 20% as the cutoff for HVM and you ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/22 06:53 PM
1	What reasons would you NOT date a fellow PPD user? I stay away from Extremists as much as possible. Politics is an example, I stay away from the "Jesus and Guns" religious Republicans and "men can give birth" woke feminist Democrats (quite a lot of the women here on PPD) But extremism isn't limited to politics. I want women with no strong extreme opinions of any kind. Which, according to the extremists here, that gets twisted into wanting braindead sex dolls.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/22 07:50 PM
4	True wealth is mostly invisible, so how does "getting money" improve your chances if it can't be seen? TRP advocates getting your money up AFBB is at the core of TRP. TRP has always promoted getting the six pack over the six figure salary. It is just that when you can't be Alpha, being a BetaBux is the next best thing. Does BBing require you to flash your wealth in an unsustainable way? Probably. But women's high standards mean it's unsustainable no matter what sexual strategy you choose. You can't keep you 20 yo six pack physique forever. You can't be "exciting and adventurous" 24/7/365. You bur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/22 08:55 PM
3	Reverse-Pre selection in men The causal effect of preselection just isn't there. It is not because other men don't want her that she is shit. It is that when a woman is shit, other men don't want her either. The converse is also true. It is not because other men want her that she is great. It is that when a woman is great other men want her too. We can even think of concrete examples. Lets say I live in an environment where everyone likes landwhales. Will that make me like landwhales? No. Conversely, lets say I live in a wh…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/12/22 09:43 PM
1	Are women allowed to do things without it being associated with ‘red flags’ or what men want? Women start out with max value, and by her actions become less valuable. Men start out with no value, and by his actions becomes more valuable. When you are already at the top of the mountain of value, wherever you go, it brings you down hill. Basically the only way for your situation to change is MORE misogyny. To view women as something with less value, such that there would be room to grow through doing things.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/12/22 12:09 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread No. Why do I care what anyone thinks? I only have two reasons Either it gets me paid, or gets me laid. Makes me think of the generic hentai plot. Truck kun sends MC to world where everyone is disgusted with bunny-ear girls and cat-ear girls. Beast girls proceed to fuck MCs brains out since he's the only one that appreciates their beauty.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/22 09:30 PM
1	TRP is based on the assumption of dark triad traits and mentality in both men and women This is why I kinda hate how it is viewed that BP is anything not RP, when it should actually be viewed the other way around. Use that as a starting point. To NOT be BP and Beta, and many things start to make sense. Most men DONT want to pay full price for used goods. From this point men start to fraction off into small groups. Some men fight the modern trend, tradcons, are willing to pay full price as long as they get the virgin housewife. Other men, fuckboys, accept that no women is theirs, it…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/22 07:50 PM
13	Is it true most men are giving up on dating? At least not in my social circles. Marriage is a shit deal for men. But it is the best thing for kids. Since most men I know want kids, most of them still date.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/22 03:34 AM
2	Most relationships consist of people who are afraid of being alone… The best candidate for a relationship is someone who is content and happy with being single and will only date and commit to a partner if there is significant value added to their already content and happy life. If someone is content and happy, then they already have whatever they value in life. So no one can bring any "significant value" into their life, which means they would never commit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/22 05:50 PM
2	AI controls dating from now on. AI selected your marriage partner: accept? [Yes/No] When AI gets that advanced, AI won't be selecting my marriage partner. AI is going to BE my marriage partner.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/22 05:15 PM
-2	To what, if any, degree has modern Feminism been responsible for the steady decrease in men's success financially/romantically/educationally/mentally? Basically all of it. Most of the other scapegoats just don't make sense. Some might say it's just US problems. But then again, you see even worse issues for men across the globe in places like Japan, Hong Kong, and Korea. Others might blame capitalism, failing to realize that the we were just as, if not more capitalistic in the past when we were fighting the cold war, and it was a golden age for men. The "it's all mental" argument being the most bullshit. We just flipped the script onto healthy …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/22 07:04 PM
16	What is your policy for covid? Can you date an unvaccinated person? I really dont care either way. It is such a non-issue. You are >99% likely to survive covid, if you get covid. I personally got the first two jabs, but now we get talking about 3rd, 4th, 5th shots too. Even the doctors and nurses at my clinic are tired of the shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/22 06:47 PM
1	Men, how many times would you have sex with a woman you don’t like. with a woman you don't like In terms of? Don't like her personality? Well gotta take what I can get. At the moment thats not much. So keep it as long as possible. Don't like her looks? Well if she's below what little standards I have left, its not really worth it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/22 07:20 PM
68	The double edged sword of high expectations for men High expectations are attainable but unsustainable. The problem arose when "dating" went from being a short term activity to a long term one. It used to be that a man "dated" a woman for a year or so to prove his worthiness before getting married, and that was that. Nowadays men are basically expected to date his woman his entire life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/22 05:05 PM
2	Redpillers see relationship success as probabilistic and Bluepillers see it as an exercise of trust Here's how discussions around this usually go: TRP: Here is a strategy based on mathematical and economical principles TBP: What are you, Autistic? No one should apply math and economics to love and relationships. It should be about feelings and emotions not logic and reason. TRP: Forgoing reason and the optimal strategies results in less returns of sex and value. This causes emotions such as anger and bitterness for getting the short end of the stick. TBP: You are angry at women? You misogynist…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/22 04:29 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Every jobs a worse job compared to the one Johnny Sins has.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/22 08:22 PM
3	Iran to Disband Morality Police in Response to Protests Sadly there are still plenty of Christian extremists to go around. Fault with the two part system. I'd vote to keep the nutjobs we still have, if kicking them out means putting woke feminists in office. Its no secret that Trump never won the election, Hilary lost it, with her "Women have always been the primary victims of war" bullshit. Your so-called woke/feminist types usually support a woman's right Feminists like to brand it as only woman's right, conveniently leaving out that it would be me…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/22 04:04 PM
-5	Iran to Disband Morality Police in Response to Protests I just fear for what might take its place. Here in the US we threw Christian nutjobs out only to have even worse woke/feminist nutjobs replace them. Hope Iran doesn't replace religious extremism with an even worse extremism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/22 03:16 PM
5	Older men are more bitter and resentful and have more baggage than older women Who is your target audience here? It's certainly not the Alphas who are doing rounds with their harem of women But I for sure met more overly sensitive men who are hyperfocused on the age thing, who also didn't spend their youth on a PhD. From your post it also doesn't seem to be Betas either. No, you are talking about the omegas. The people that didn't put in the work at the gym to get six packs like the Alphas, and didn't put in the work in school or the office to advance their careers like go…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/22 04:40 PM
7	Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from? It is a statement from the males perspective. It seems like women prefer otherwise. Most men want inexperienced women, most women want experienced men. Men and women have never been that compatible. The ideal from my perspective is that both parties are young. The compromise in the real world is men being older than women in most relationship. The worst being that both parties are old.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/22 04:27 PM
37	Where did this idea that younger women make better partners come from? A good relationship is about growing old together, not growing old separately and then getting together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/22 04:13 PM
2	How many men admit to following trp In dating? I dont "admit" anything, since its so self evident. I dont roll in feminist circles. For my friends, coworkers, and family members "TRP facts" are just "facts". Its like asking if I admit the sky is blue. Who would I "admit" to? Who would be stupid enough to ask me that question? When I dress nice, my colleagues ask me "whats her name?". They don't ask if I think women are shallow and base their attraction off of the status my attire conveys. They don't ask if I only dressed up to increase the c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/22 06:13 PM
0	(Q4All)When did men first have to be desirable/likable Go watch a nature documentary. Males have always needed to impress females for mating rights since before we even evolved into monkeys. The only difference is HOW males become desirable. Spiders offered captured insects. Birds offered fish. And for most of humanity, men just showed that he can bring home the bacon. If I had to say when this change happened, it would be invention of social security, that in practice, just taxes men to pay for welfare for women, bypassing the need for women to off…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/22 03:16 PM
3	Redpillers 'focus on themselves' to get women, thus defeating the point focus on yourself, but not for yourself, but for validation from the opposite sex. FTFY	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/22 08:23 PM
0	Are some women simply "Chadsexual" while most are not? The way I see it, Chad is just a subset of the top 20% of men. Just as an exampke: we might have "only" 20% of women going after the top 5% in looks (Chadsexuals), and "only" 20% of women going for the top 5% in wealth (golddiggers), and "only" 20% of women going for top 5% in status, and "only" 20% of women going after top 5% in game. You sum that up, and you still get that 20% of all men are getting 80% of all sexual value on the market. Now I'm not saying this is the breakdown of things. All …	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/22 07:35 PM
2	Q4M: Random Variety vs Stable Variety You don't know her STD status or if she's actually on birth control This is a huge issue for me, not only in your hypothetical, but in real life. So I have to go for the Stable Variety. I wanna cum in a woman, not cum in a piece of latex. Stable Variety: wants to have sex a few times a week Random Variety: guaranteed one new date every week Also, quantity matters. Few>one	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/22 01:40 AM
21	How many bad boys do you know have consistent relations? All of them? At least in the circles I run in, bad boy or not, is just a means to an end. Its like asking how many workers I know get consistently paid. Well all of them. Because the ones that aren't paid, stop being workers. One of two things happens to men that adopt the bad boy lifestyle. 1) They get good at it and get consistent sexual returns. 2) They eventually give up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 06:54 PM
2	Some women treat men in AF/BB terms, but sexually successful men provide different treatment to women as well. Men feeling butthurt about this behavior should learn to apply it themselves. Lets clean this up a bit. Some women treat men in AF/BB terms Over 80% of women but sexually successful men provide different treatment to women as well. and the top 20% of men can Men feeling butthurt about this behavior should learn to apply it themselves. strive to become said 20% of men. (might I recommend TRP to help you get started) He can take her to the fanciest restaurant, gifting her a mixtape, lovebombing her like a complete simp. He can totally spoil her, and it doesn't matter becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/22 06:37 PM
2	What separates a relatively content involuntarily single man from a frustrated involuntarily single man? A sex drive. That's all there is that separate the two. I was Man A for about a decade and a half, before puberty kicked in and gave me a sex drive. For the decade plus after that I've been Man B minus the self-esteem bullshit. The whole "mental illness" thing is fucking retarded. It used to be that being gay was diagnosed as a mental disorder, now we do that to straight men. As a health man, I have a health sex drive. My problem is not having sex. Its not "status" or "loneliness" or "mental hea…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/22 09:55 PM
1	Instead of me or another posting stating what the average guy is, what do you think the average guy is, and what does he have to offer what you think the average girl is 1 - People don't need to be special, they just need to be special to you. From the male side of things, this is why the virgin/n count topic is so so important. A woman can just be an average, unremarkable 5/10. But if she has sex with me and only me, that exclusively is reason enough to value her. Now it seems exclusively is not something women desire as much. As women are more inclined to share a top man than have all of an average man. But for the few women that do want their own man, realist…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/22 06:53 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Its a matter of risk taking. There are evolutionary pressure on males to be take risks to be exceptionally successful to mate, and evolutionary pressure on females to take less risks for childrearing. For some men it pays out and they become CEOs. For others it doesn't and they become homeless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/22 04:10 AM
12	Q4M: Would you rather add two inches in height, gain two inches in length, or add two figures to your income? Two inches. Not much difference between $0.00 vs $000.00 /s	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/22 04:02 AM
1	Who would you rather be with? I am having sex? If yes, then A. Getting what I want (sex with hot babe) > Being wanted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/22 07:11 PM
5	What does Average Adam have to offer for ANYONE Its like buying an index fund. The returns are average and unexciting, but over the long run, it beats out 90+% of all other investment strategies. Hey if you want excitement, go right ahead and buy FTX or Luna or Squid Game Coin or whatever. Go ahead and try your luck with Bad Boy Chad. But do it knowing you are acting emotionally, not rationally. There is a lot of volatility in the dating market. Having an Average Adam that can be relied on to be average consistently is fucking valuable. Its n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 05:34 PM
-3	Red-pilled heterosexual men, what does your ideal relationship look like? What do you look for in a partner? Sexual exclusivity, sexual availability, and sexual attractiveness. Are you right leaning? At least I wouldn't identify as such. I'm libertarian and believe in limited government. I hate Leftist fiscal policies, and I hate right leaning social policies. Which depending on which end of the political spectrum you ask, I'm just a Republican that wants weed and hookers and abortions, or a Democrat that just doesn't want to pay taxes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/22 05:42 AM
3	How would you feel about a prospective partner if you found out they were an avid redditor? Who isn't on the internet nowadays? Of all the sites people can be on, reddit seems to be one of the better ones. At least it means they arent some woke idiot as with Twitter, or softcore camgirl with Instagram.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/11/22 08:11 PM
2	Is sex important for people in general? Is love? I think ignores the fact that sexual competition is how animals work Survival of the fittest is also how animals work. Either both are accepted, or neither should be. I personally support the neither option. Give me back my tax money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/22 04:53 PM
8	Men sex with multiple women because status, rather than pleasure or female company because socially Ha, you think all the men around here have social lives? /s Seriously though, having sex with a harem of women has nothing to do with status. Whether it be basement dwellers with no friends at all, or rich and famous men where it would actually damage their reputation, sex with smoking hot babes is the goal in itself, not status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/11/22 04:28 PM
–	Question for Red Pill: How do you explain women who don’t date “bad men”, never cheat, have male friends that aren’t interested romantically or only date average men? TRP operates on 80/20. 80% of women like 20% of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/11/22 04:42 AM
111	Most men don't get laid because they don't approach and talk to enough women There's a flip of cause and effect. Most men don't approach because approaching arent getting them laid all that often. I'm not sure if its just projection or a shaming tactic at this point, but men are pretty damn rational. Men arent "too scared" to do things, they are responding to the incentive structure in place. Its not "approach anxiety". For the majority of men, the bottom 80%, the cost to approach is currently higher than the expected returns of approaching. Thats all there is to it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/11/22 08:27 PM
4	A lot of guys here confuse "Chad" for "The guy who's peaking in life right now with no future plans" There's some partial truth here. It is true that the apex male, the AlphaBux, is few and far between and most men can only optimize for either Alpha OR Beta qualities (and some losers that have neither). What is false is the claim that the difference is somehow related to "peaking" or "danger." Alpha Chad with the six pack isn't "peaking early" or "living dangerously" compared to the Beta Bux with the six figure salary. All it really amounts to is that one spend his time socializing at parties a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/11/22 10:10 PM
13	The cost of dating is an understated factor on this subreddit. Dating costs money (for betas) FTFY. Women and Chad can just sends an open invite for Netflix and Chill at their place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/10/22 01:42 AM
10	How do redpilled men view lesbians? There's not enough of you lot for there to be an impact.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 11:10 PM
0	How has your relationship with your own mother changed after discovering the red pill? You are going into interactions with young hot chicks with juicy asses So were my grandparents and parents back in the day. 20 year old women our grandfathers dating in 1950> 20 year old women our fathers dating in 1985> 20 year old women I would be dating in 2022. are wondering why they are not like your grandma I'm not wondering why, I know why. Modern feminism has brought the value of women from net positive to net negative outside of sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 08:58 PM
1	How has your relationship with your own mother changed after discovering the red pill? At least not any women my age or younger. Some people here on PPD seem to think men here are just idolizing the 1950s. I can't speak for anyone else, but looking at my grandma, women of that generation are just simply better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 06:45 PM
4	How has your relationship with your own mother changed after discovering the red pill? Unofficial motto of TRP - Enjoy the decline. My mom is just another data point to show the decline in the quality of women. Grandmother (and women in her generation) >Mother (and women in her generation)> women of my generation	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 03:18 PM
1	Why do people think you can genuinely love someone but cheat on them? If you had any respect for your partner When you love someone unconditionally, you can love them even when they do not garner your respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/10/22 03:12 PM
0	The Need For Context I wouldn't really say context is lacking, as much as its just hidden behind jargon alot. For example the context of location is covered by "geomaxxing" and the context of age is fundamental to "AFBB" (women giving their youth to alphas, with betas footing the bill as they age.) In the times that context is omitted, context doesn't really matter. Things like 80/20 are basically true in all contexts. The exact percentage might change. It might be 75/25 or 90/10. The make up of the top men might ch…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/10/22 10:21 PM
4	If a man isn't interested in people he should not be confused when people are not interested in him. If a man isn't interested on people Not true. Men are (sexual) interested in people. So its not surprising that so many are confused when people are not (sexual) interested in him.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/22 07:19 PM
2	Except for sex, men are doing better than ever What historical perspective you are using? Again, it seem like this is another post with the apex fallacy. -Staying fit? It was only ever the top percent of men. The majority of men were malnourished working in physically demanding labour in the past. The majority of men are leading sedentary lifestyles working a desk job in the present. The majority of men just went from too skinny to too fat. -Love for country? The entire US of A is built by people forging their country for better life elsewhe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/22 04:41 PM
3	Normie Motivation Once people built a life they want, the aspiration is usually just to live that life as long as possible. In other words - maintenance. That's what most of life is. Life is pretty damn fragile. Getting something in life is easy. Keeping it is the hard part. You bought a house? Easy. Paying off the mortgage over the next 30 years? Hard. You getting laid? Easy. Getting laid every day for the rest of your life? Hard. Get fit/lose weight? Easy. Keeping the weight off? Hard. It seems to me, the funda…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/22 04:07 AM
4	Normie Motivation Here's a counter question - what do you need motivation for? If you think your life is "good enough" then just live your life and enjoy it. Why do anything that requires motivation?	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/10/22 01:27 AM
0	High value men in a relationship/marriage having sex with other women is an empty pursuit that isn't even feasible for most men, and RP influencers should stop suggesting it 1.It comes to the very definition of "empty" as something devoid of value. To say the physical act of sex is devoid of value is just absurd. To perform the acts that lead to procreation and the continuation of the species is literally the only thing ingrain in all living things. If only one thing in life had value, having sex would be it. 2.You don't have to make it happen. Its about making improvements towards it. You pointed out that TRP talks a lot about "purpose." The things that declare pur…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 07:46 AM
0	High value men in a relationship/marriage having sex with other women is an empty pursuit that isn't even feasible for most men, and RP influencers should stop suggesting it 1-The "empty pursuit" thing is just a shaming tactic at this point. Man don't like certain things (for example, getting disappointed with crowds of tourists in foriegn nations, paying 500% mark up for food at restaurants, partaking in the dramas of social interations, etc), well lets shame him for being boring/autistic. Man does enjoy certain things (such as enjoying the body of beautiful women), well lets shame him for having a frat boy mentality/childishness. The biggest issue with this crap i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/10/22 06:58 AM
23	The reason for a decline in social cohesion and relationships in general is due to a collapse in third places. The general idea of the loss of the third places as a cause of social decline is a good argument. The ideas that this can be traced back to "America evil" isn't. Look at Hong Kong or Tokyo. They are far from car centric. They never had a Christian root to lose. Yet they have an even higher loneliness crisis than here in America. What these countries do have in common is radical feminism. Because in reality, we still have these "third places" they just don't act like it anymore. The cafes and par…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/10/22 05:43 PM
31	"Women like assholes" is a projection. Men are the ones deliberately putting up with "asshole women". Is this the apex fallacy again? The average man doesn't actually have what you call a lot of options, and just fucks what he can get. Average men aren't choosing anything because they don't have much choice to begin with. When you see men choosing Stacie, what you are seeing are only the men that have options to choose from in the first place. Surprise surprise, men with options only go for Stacie, and don't care about their long term traits such as personality because they know they can just tu…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/10/22 07:34 PM
2	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? Seems like you and OP are talking about two separate things. The real world as it is now with picky women, and the hypothetical world without. In the real world, it is not advantageous for men to be in a relationship, and therefore I never choose to acquire any skills, traits, or characteristics of any kind to be in a relationship. I actively work to NOT be relationship material. So obviously I'm not in a relationship. In a hypothetical world where it is advantageous for men to be in one, I woul…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/10/22 10:23 PM
0	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? Are you used goods by the way? Sounds like you are. This is the thing. I was way better when I was a teenage virgin. I would treat women like goddesses on the pedestal. Now I actually treat women worse. Its just that women like that more somehow. Just because women like used goods more, isn't gonna influence me that they as used good are any better. Women might not like it, but I want a virgin woman treating me like a God on the pedestal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 11:23 PM
1	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? If TRP had a motto - Enjoy the decline of women. You don't know the quantity of life you have until you die. The generation who have now died married around the 50s. Yea, marriage was amazing for them. But the quality of women has declined quite a lot since then. For your average millennial/gen z man, well, we'll have to wait a few decades to find out if marriage is a net plus or minus.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 11:13 PM
3	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? The definition of someone who is picky is that they are difficult to please and like things in a small range. It takes unsustainable amounts of effort to please women nowadays. Inevitably a man burns out, or drops out of the narrow range in which picky women desire and boom, you have a divorce. Wonder why divorces are mostly initiated by women. Its because women are more difficult to please in a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 09:07 PM
8	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? clearly not relationship material Thank you. I've worked hard on it. "Relationship material" or "husband material" men get the short end of the stick these days, so I'm glad I'm not one of them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 07:43 PM
-1	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? That is also just a result of pickiness. Anything not 100% in her favor is grounds for divorce nowadays.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 07:42 PM
1	If women were less “picky” do you think you’d be in a LTR? Yes. If nothing but for the fact that I'd be willing to LTR women who are not picky. Picky women shop around. In the dating market that usually means they get passed around. Since I refuse to pay full price for used goods, it means no LTR. Conversely, if women are less picky, they settle down early. Young marriage all around. Women's prime years would be in marriage, which makes LTR worth while.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/10/22 05:19 PM
7	Love a human need Accoring to maslows' hierarchy put way too much emphasis on sex https://psychology.fandom.com/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs?file=Maslow%2527s_hierarchy_of_needs.png Thats some Contradiction right there. Maslows Hierarchy explicitly lists sex as one of the most fundamental needs, next to breathing, food, and water. Only after sexual needs are fulfilled do you move on to love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/09/22 07:24 PM
111	Would gender roles and dating dynamics be different if men didn’t prioritize sex so much? (ie: “think with their dicks”). If so, how? (tagged NSFW just in case) If men did less thinking with their dick, and more thinking with their brain theyd just not date at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/09/22 06:58 PM
7	Red Pill vs human sexual biology Is red Pill trying to push for a culture of marriage at 18 becoming the norm or at least more common? Yes. Not only through words, but personal action. Many RPers are saying NO to modern marriage, either they get a young wife 1950s style, or no marriage at all. Its just that it turns out the outcome is overwhelmingly no marriage at all. At a certain point, these men realize its a lost cause, and instead of being martyr, decide to just "enjoy the decline".	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/22 06:02 PM
5	Red Pill vs human sexual biology unless you want to move to an early marriage society. The people that want virgins DO want early marriage. In a sense, many of the the people that want virgin, care MORE about early marriage than virginity. One of the biggest issue TRP have with the modern dating scene is AFBB. The fact that women give their youth (and virginity) to Alphas, while Betas foot the bill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/09/22 05:34 PM
3	I think this sub often ignores the importance of local/regional factors, when it comes to dating and sex.... I wouldn't really say it's ignored, as it is seen as unfeasible. "Geomaxxing" got discussed a lot around here. It peaked around two years ago when Work From Home became mandatory for most people. But now, after return to office, its not discussed as much since not many people have the option to live wherever they want. Also, by definition very few people live in small cities. If the vast majority of people live in large cities, it just stands to reason that big cities is seen as the default.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/22 05:09 PM
3	So what is an Alpha, Beta, Sigma, etc? What do you call a man who could have slept around but didn't? The first thing to clear up is that all definitions have two use cases - it can apply to who you are as a human being, and your actions as a human doing. Example: A maths professor buys a lotto ticket. He is a SMART man who did a DUMB action. This is how you can BE alpha, but ACT beta. At the highest level, this distinction of value as human being and human doing is at the core of alpha and beta. An alpha - women want to fuck him, be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/09/22 04:06 PM
18	Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman. Be realistic with your standards. Unrealistic standards don't weed out low value men, it weeds out honest men, leaving only the ones willing to lie to you. Take pornography just as an example. The joke is that when surveyed 90% of men watched porn, and 10% lied. I think there was a story where someone wanted to do a study on the effects of pornography on men. It turns out they couldn't do it because they can't find any man that never watched porn to be the control group. So guess what, if you se…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/09/22 06:00 AM
15	Does a woman's appearance really matter THAT much? “What's the secret of a great marriage? It's not looks, nor intelligence, nor money — it's low expectations.” – Warren Buffett Un(less)attractive women know their value. They know to set their standards low from the beginning. Since happiness is how reality compares to expectations, they tend to be very happy with their relationship with their man.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/09/22 11:29 PM
1	RedPill - sexual deviancy and casual sex is bad for society. Why endorse it instead of building families? sleeping with random women and never getting married is bad for society. 'getting bitches' is bad for society. worse case scenario there are always women from different cultures and countries. GOOD. Our current society is so fucked, the least I can do is to not contribute to it. Let our current culture and society fail, so a better one can take its place. That way it brings foreign culture to us, instead of us needing to flee the country to live in a better culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/09/22 02:11 AM
2	How much do you value "social legitimacy" and how much do you think "social legitimacy" influence people's behavior & choices? Social legitimacy is a means not an end. I see a lot of people (more likely women) that think its the other way around. I go out to socialize to find women, I dont find relationships to facilitate socializing. I network to find jobs, I don't use my job to network.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/09/22 06:18 PM
2	Do you care how many people your partner slept with? Do you care how many people your partner slept with? Its one of the things I care most about. Does it factor into your decision of whether to pursue a LTR or get married? Yes, if this is compromised, then I might as well hire a pro. Did you stop caring about this type of thing after a certain age? If anything, age only solidified this decision. One reason is that as I've aged, I've grown wealthier, to the point of being able to afford pros regularly. Another is that, with age, I've wised to just…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/09/22 01:43 AM
1	q4a does your perception/definition of love changed with age and experience? Love is what makes a person someone I want to share important life events with. That never changed. Its just that the important life events changed with age. For the most part, the most important event in life is sex. As some age (I am not one of them), wanting/having kids is the most important life event. For others still, the most important think in life is ironically death, and the importance of having someone hold your hand on your deathbead cannot be understated. Its just the age in which t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/08/22 08:07 PM
6	You will never be a high value man. The problem is assuming there is only one metric in which to evaluate value or that to be high value you need to score highly in every metric. Sure, the mythical AlphaBux that is tall and handsome and rich and smart and everything nice, is a 1 in a million. But it is very much in reach to achieve high value in ONE aspect. The question is just whether it is better to be a jack of all trade, or a master of one. In the content of the manosphere, the general consensus is its better to be the master …	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/08/22 05:41 AM
3	TRP and TBP are just different forms of simping and exacerbate two real issues It is all simping, which I will define as doing things for women instead of doing the things that you want to do for yourself. What happens when what I want "for myself" to enjoy life is sex? There are some men who do indeed build ships in bottles and collect stuffed animals without regard for what women think. There is a huge difference between doing things "for sex","for women", and "for what women think." I want sex and my regard for what women think is a means to sex, not an end in itself. T…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/08/22 01:46 AM
5	I understand the hate towards men I feel like I'm rehashing a Jordan Peterson argument here, but here goes. Women HAVE NOT been oppressed. You can cheery pick random metrics to support any argument. Most casualties of war are men. Legal sentence are harsher for men. Most workplace injuries are sustained by men. Men have been oppressed since recorded history! See how easy it is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/08/22 05:47 AM
1	Men's greatest desire is to feel desired and special, that's why AFBB even exists as a topic of discussion. Men's greatest desire is to feel desired sexually by women. The alpha fux beta bux dichotomy comes from a simple fact: some men get easy sex while other men have to work for it. Here's a simple counterexample. Would you rather work for the sex with a 18 yo, or be given free sex by a 65 yo? I believe most men would choose the 18yo even if they have to work for it. Its not about being desirable, its about getting something desirable, a woman's beauty and youth. What I am trying to highlight here i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/08/22 08:20 PM
0	Are the expectations of young men today way too unrealistic when it comes to TRP stuff? Back in my day mid 90's to early 2,000's getting a date wasn't too difficult, but getting casual sex wasn't as easy as swiping on apps. But back in those day, serious dating meant it wasn't unreasonable to wife up a virgin studying for a MRS degree in college. A lot of the expectation is the losses in serious LTRs caused by modern dating would be gained in STRs and casual sex, which it did. Its just that said gains are concentrated in the top 20%. Its no wonder that young men would do anything t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 05:35 AM
4	Daily Community Chat Megathread So women don’t complain about fat men existing because they don’t see them? Correct. Thats why the complaints are skewed towards men not commiting, cheating, and the like. It is pretty telling as people are generally as loyal as their options. It pretty much tells you that women are completely focus of the top 20% with many option. Why do men see fat women Men are less picky/need sex more, so consider more women and complain about them? Well have you seen one? How can you not.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 01:12 AM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Depends where I'm at. Gym - the most sexualized rap/R&B to keep me motivated. Home - classic/instrumental/anything that's comfy Out and about - generic pop. The outside is just too noisy to actually enjoy anything more intricate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 12:58 AM
0	Daily Community Chat Megathread What? That wasn't in the question or the answer. why aren’t women constantly going on rants complaining about fat guys? The question was about women, and women got no complaints about the average man simply because the average man basically doesn't exist to her, she's got company with top teir men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 12:55 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread As long as she is in the top 80% of women, she can occasionally get with a top 20% man. Seen it too often IRL. Fit 6'3" college education white men would often fuck fatties, if it mean going home empty handed otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/08/22 12:45 AM
1	Men: What’re your opinions on sex work and how does it differ depending on you relationship? Oh what i wouldn't give to be Johnny Sins. Supposedly women love sex just as much as men, so I can only see sex workers as lucky people who have a job they love. As the saying goes don't buy what you can rent. If anything its preferable. Its a social circle with way more direct routes toward sex. Well I sure as hell dont want a daughter, but if I hypothetically did, I would discourage sex work. Look at history. Prostitution used to be rampant in the Edwardian and Victorian Era. We only started b…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/08/22 01:00 AM
4	Daily Community Chat Megathread If a man is to take the geomaxxing approach anyways, he's better of moving to SEA or Latin America. He can get chicks AND have them be fit and attractive	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/22 11:28 PM
4	Daily Community Chat Megathread Miss the opportunity and you're never gonna fuck a high school girl again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/08/22 07:34 PM
9	Guys complain about being lonely/sexless but isn't it just survival of the fittest? The problem is that this "survival of the fittest" narrative isn't applied equally. Oh, some poor weak woman is starving? Well let her die off, she's weak anyways. Oh loser with nothing but a job can't procreate, well survival of the fittest am i right? If both applied, in a free market, you would end up with a poor weak woman offering the only thing she has, her pussy, to said loser in exchange for said losers paycheck. This has not been the case. We are saying it is not ok to allow for surviva…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/08/22 07:38 PM
2	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? sex, hold hands, pay bills together, get into arguments, have deep emotional and psychological intimacy from conversation and/or shared life experiences and affection, sleep next to each other at night, raise children together, nurse each other through sickness The only point of contention here is sex. Sex aside, it is not like anyone would consider leaving their relationship just because their spouse did any of the above with someone else. I held my grandma's hand helping her walk down the stre…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 03:08 PM
-2	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? I use "legitimacy" the way I interpret it from the original quotes, meaning to be valued as equal. I do not see gay sex as equal to, well, actual sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 01:16 AM
0	If your spouse cheated with somebody of the same sex, would you feel the same as if they cheated with the opposite sex? legitimacy from same sex relationships in society. The thing is, is that I never thought it legitimate to begin with, its like religion and gender identity, I dont really believe you are who you identify as, or that your imaginary friend(s) exist, I'm just being polite enough to not laugh in your face. So, my spouse can have whatever fun she wants with other women (the biological ones), since I don't believe it has the "legitimacy" of man and woman. I guess it sounds like some loophole, like how…	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 12:50 AM
0	Does unconditional love truly exist? I think the closest thing to unconditional love, is unconditional love from now on. Even a child is not loved unconditionally, because there is the condition that you actual be their child. But once it is established that you are their child, then you can do whatever you want and they would still love you no matter what, unconditionally. The same can happen even without blood relationships. It could just easily have been he called you "da-da" at 5 months old and from that moment on you love him …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/08/22 12:33 AM
35	Why do you, romantic men want romance in life Romance elevates sex from mere fucking to making love, it changes food from mere sustenance to a home-cooked meal, the ultimate gift. It has been said many times before, sex and food aren't the end goal, they are the minimum required to get a relationship to the starting line.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/08/22 08:13 PM
5	How does TRP/manosphere not negatively affect men’s mental health for 80-90% of it’s audience who don’t become part of the top 10-20%? The answer is that the hopelessness comes before men join TRP, and TRP at least gives them a 20% chance. The life of the average man sucks. He is going to sell himself into corporate slavery for 40 hours a week, every week, for half a century. The average woman he is going to get would be overweight. The average amount of sex the men would get is not enough compared to his sexual needs. These are all just facts. At least TRP gives you a way out. You CAN retire and get out of the rat race. You CA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/08/22 03:51 PM
1	What exactly is wrong about being "beta bucks"? The problem is that it comes AFTER AF. There is nothing wrong with BB by itself, its just a problem when it is part of the dual mating strategy of AFBB. The alpha gets her youth, and the beta does not. Basically there are three different scenarios: 1- Women spend youth AND old age with same man. This is traditional marriage. No problems here. 2- BBAF. Women spend youth in marriage and explore the CC later in life. This happened a lot with the boomers. You see quite alot of couples in this era ma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/08/22 06:06 PM
-1	What’s the solution? Solutions on a societal level? Well let me share a joke a saw a few days a go. A pregnant woman asked a man for his seat on public transport. His reply? "Hell no! Next time fuck a man thats got a car." What we need is the same attitude across the board. Screw defund the police, we should defund the lot. Stop the government from stealing half of mens paychecks to fund women's needs. On an individual level, well, just respond to incentive structures. As women aren't holding on to sexual moral, men…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/08/22 04:17 AM
2	The “Media” has created unrealistic expectations of dating which has contributed to people dating failures. The question need not be gender specific, for the answer to be gender specific. The media may have created unrealistic standards for one gender and not the other. Its not just media and expectations. Things like marriage, child support, alimony, etc are all technically gender neutral by law, yet questions on these topics are going to have very different answers depending on your gender.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/22 06:21 PM
3	The “Media” has created unrealistic expectations of dating which has contributed to people dating failures. The media has portrayed the perfect wife time and time again, and yet the only expectation men have of women is that they keep their stomach full and balls empty. Some might wish for a mute button. That's about it. Hardly unrealistic. The only men that can afford to have more expectations are the top 20 percent of men. It's just apex fallacy agian. You think men have high unrealistic expectations, because you only pay attention to the ones that do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/08/22 05:18 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread On a Bill Maher binge recently. So much good commentary on pillosphere topics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/08/22 11:23 PM
17	Pill ideology is irrelevant to most healthy people capable of successful relationships. successful relationships The only people who are truly successful (to the point of not needing to learn the realities of their environment, such as TRP) are always the minority of people. The rule of thumb RP uses is the top 20%. Even that is probably an over-estimate. I have yet to meet a man that is so successful he does not want to improve. A man so fulfilled that he legitimately do not want sex more frequently. Or that he has such a huge harem of women he doesn't want more. Most men are in N…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/22 11:43 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Robots are gonna take all our jobs. Work to be the guy that makes and owns those robots.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/08/22 12:45 AM
1	Yes, Women are judged by many things BUT Don't forget the fact that people have a natural tendency to just put women on a pedestal. Men and women are assessed differently. Men start at 0% and work their way up to a "smashing" score. Women start at 100% and lose points as they do things that get "judged".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/08/22 07:27 PM
5	Would you rather have common interests with your partner of similar age or a younger women? Younger. For LTR, Its not how good you look, it's about how long you can keep looking good. Having 13 less years of good sex, wipes out any upside on common interest. Men are more interested in things, women in people. Men and women by default do not have common interests regardless of age. If things aren't going to interest me regardless, its better to partake in the cheaper options. Much easier to take my girl to Starbucks everyday and have her be happy, than taking yout more mature woman to a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/07/22 02:07 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread What I advocate for has nothing to do with what I believe is best for society. I've advocate for taxing others to pay for my life all the time, doesn't mean I dont know taxation is just legalized theft. Being a rational individual, I'm just never going to advocate again my self interest full stop. Hell, screw the casual sex, ill straight up advocate for rape and pillage if I'm the one to benefit from it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/07/22 07:37 PM
7	Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men? So again. Yes. OK, Sure, Great, Affirmative. I've really had to read this a few time to figure out where ambiguity can lie. Maybe its in the "if you WERE IN a committed relationship" part you are trying the ask "if you would STAY IN a committed relationship."? The answer to the first question where I WERE IN a committed relationship is YES, I am OK (actually more than OK) to live in the hypothetical world where women act like men. This is because, leading to the second question, I would not "STA…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 03:56 AM
10	Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men? I mean I answered it twice? I literally said "Yes" and "not a problem for me." Don't know how to make myself any clearer here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 03:26 AM
6	Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men? want to have families Well I'm childfree and certainly do not. So not a problem to me. fall in love What love? The type of love that is based on what I have, or my actions as a human doing? I certainly don't want it. The type of love where women have sex, release oxytonin, and trigger pair bonding? Well thats basically what I alluded to with the Victorian woman. I would love to pair bond with a woman as she loses her virginity to me. But we've been told its just another Victorian myth and that s…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 03:16 AM
9	Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men? Yes, as then men in committed relationship no longer need to be in one to have frequent consistent sex. As Bandit has spelt out below, committed relationships are basically the worst of both worlds right now. With women acting like modern men, or Victorian women, you at least get the best of one world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 02:34 AM
39	Q4men: do you REALLY want women to be like men? be DTF pretty much any man who hit her. Yes. It'd be a r/freeuse paradise. Maybe someone can explain to me why you wish women were more like men. Cause I don’t get it. Basically anything that does not result in AFBB is preferable. So women acting like a modern man and always DTF with basically whoever? Great. Alternatively if they acted like Victorian women that fucked one and only one man would also be great. Women trying to have their cake and eat it with AFBB? Not great.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/07/22 02:15 AM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread I can't lie if I myself believe everything I say...up until post-nut clarity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/22 07:09 PM
8	Women's preferences in men are culturally engineered Something does not need to exist naturally for nature to create an attraction towards it. For example, studies have been done on baby birds that peck on the red dots of their parents beak. Scientists would paint a stick that was redder than anything that naturally occurred in the species and the baby birds would actually prefer that. Something similar was done with adult birds. Scientists would remove the eggs and replace it painted fake eggs the size of basketballs, unrealistically large, and y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/22 06:59 PM
1	The RP community might be a bit more appealing if so many of the popular YouTube channels didn’t harbor certain narrow-minded conservative viewpoints Most of these arguing points are really more Milton Friedman style libertarian that conservative. Its less about CONSERVING any christian values and more about giving people the LIBERTY to choose their own values. I mean the biggest reason I don't want to give to universal healthcare or education is that I wouldn't even spend it on myself unless I really had to. I would much rather spend my resources on getting sex, than to have money to buy an extra decade of life and health in old age. As for …	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/22 06:26 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread It doesn't have to be one or the other. Arguably it is only recently that this is the case. Historically most men held the alpha AND the beta role. Yes, women nowadays give their best years to alphas and have betas wife them up as they hit the wall. But for the longest time women gave their youth AND old age to the same man. It is only after the bifurcation of youth and old age, and the separation of the sexual and nonsexual, that alphas and betas as a label can even make sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/22 05:58 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread You really can't apply a dichotomy when there is only one subject involved. When you are the only person under consideration you are simultaneously the smartest and dumbest, richest and poorest, most alpha and most beta.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/07/22 05:42 PM
3	Want to find the one: go back to school? Especially if you're going to a program with the gender ratio skewed in your favor (mine was very male-heavy). This here is the biggest problem. If you work in a male dominated industry, all the programs that actually benefit you will also be male dominated. You basically gets gender ratios worse than online dating, and the quality of the competition is higher, since like you they are all grad students.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/07/22 07:56 PM
40	What would you/ will you teach your daughters ? To think long term. What you do young can and will affect how your life looks like when you are old. "The past is the past" is bullshit. It doesn't matter what aspect of life we are talking about. Your criminal/employment/driving/sexual/etc history stays with you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/07/22 10:38 PM
10	The reason why you struggle dating as a guy is because you lack fundamentals of attraction. Good looks, Good Charm and presence Chad Good social standing and status Be the Alpha male Good financial standing Bux. To be honest, I'd think you probably don't need two of the three, just one would be sufficient.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/07/22 11:57 PM
2	Niceness, confidence and men attractivity But that confidence matters MORE that niceness. The way things are defined around here, or at least how the qualities are perceived in the real world, confidence and niceness are basically mutually exclusive. It basically boils down to whether you consider the possibility that your actions may be undesirable to others. The moment a man even so thinks this he is labeled as having "social anxiety" and "low self confidence." What you get is people telling you that you need more "confidence" in your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/07/22 08:54 PM
2	The Wall Mega-Thread The wall is just the age in which you bring so little to the table that you are not worth entering a LTR with. For short term relationships, all that matters is that you look fuckable, you age (or anything else about you for that matter) is irrelevant. We fuck and part ways. For LTR not only do I care that you are fuckable, I need to know you would remain fuckable in, well as LTR implies, the long term. A 35 yo may as well be just as fuckable as a 25 yo, hell maybe even more so. But she brings 1…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/22 05:06 PM
1	Why do red pilled men attempt to date seriously? Kids. Marriage may not be the best deal for men in the vast majority of cases, but it is indisputable that a two parent household has been shown time and time again to be better for raising children. Its a sacrifice many men are noble enough to make for the welfare of their offspring. The general rule of thumb is 80/20. It is difficult to be in the top 20% in which relationships are favourable, but not impossible. Many RP are actively working towards and has high hope for getting to that positio…	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/07/22 04:48 PM
3	Men want the most sexual partners possible and women want the best. That's where our problems come from. Why do men even marry then? Why even create that concept? It is the best environment to raise children. In addition, Why do women disproportionately initiate divorce on their best? Few can maintain being the best forever.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/07/22 07:28 PM
8	Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing? I think older folk might know it better, because the most I've seen the scenario happen is for the generations where they married before feminism became as radical as it is now. For a certain generation of people, they had young 18 year old women getting and stayed married until the kids have grown up, AND THEN as feminism became more corrupt and encouraged them to "explore," they divorce their man at age 40 to fuck around with the pool boys. The result was that the man got the best two decades …	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/22 03:19 AM
15	Even if it is true, (I don’t think it is) Why is being BBb considered such a bad thing? The biggest problem with BB is that AF exists before it. Arguably every relationship since the beginning of civilization to the world wars was BB. Men didn't see this as a problem because they got an 18 year old virgin housewife, something that modern day BBs do not get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/22 02:50 AM
-3	Why are divorced and widowed men more likely to remarry than divorced and widowed women? It takes two to tango. For a divorcee to remarry, there has to be someone willing to marry them. Men can retain way more value than women with old age and divorce, so more women are willing to marry older divorced men than men willing for older divorced women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/22 12:46 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread A key difference is mobility. A huge portion of a woman's value is tied to youth. So almost all women get to experience being priceless when they are 18, gradually lose value, and become worthless post wall. So almost all women have a window of opportunity, many just fail to take advantage of it. The equivalent male incels never had the opportunity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/07/22 10:29 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Guess it just depends how much faith you have in the future. If the average man in 2040 has a Marilyn Monrobot, I won't mind being average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/07/22 10:00 PM
38	If you aren’t successful in dating, then you’re simply not attractive So.. you argument is that people need to follow rule 1 and 2. I really don't know the words to describe it. You are a long time lurker of PPD, a debate of redpill and bluepill, and somehow you reached the blackpill conclusion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/07/22 09:44 PM
6	Daily Community Chat Megathread I’ve come to the realization that this sub is mostly a representation of whites people dating problems. Wait, shouldn't it be the other way around? Since normal white Americans have less problems getting laid, then it must mean its mostly the Asians/Blacks that are having problems and venting their dating problems here?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/22 05:26 PM
3	Sex and dating Do you expect sex before commitment, because otherwise she is using you? Depends on her past. If she had done so in the past, then yes. In the real world though, most women wont say they casually fucked Chad during spring break, they just claim they were in a relationship with Chad that just so happens to only last for the duration of a spring break. The basic strategy as a man is to mirror this. Offer the bf/gf committed arrangement to get the sex, and then just take that commitment away afterw…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/07/22 04:34 PM
1	Which is better - Emotional Bond or Physical Bond? In an ideal world, the emotional bonds are a direct result of physical bonds. I think a good way to look at bonding is how they are formed. The biological explanation for bonding is that people have sex, sex causes the release of oxytocin, and in turn it facilitates bonding. Because they have bonded they enjoy sex, and the cycle continues. This is the best case scenario. Of course this would not work for high n count individuals. At best they build bonds that are easily broken, at worst they nev…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/22 10:15 PM
5	Women outnumbering Men in college. If reddit is to be believed, people just go to coding boot camps instead of going to college.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/07/22 07:14 PM
1	Why would a man want to become a feminist? Why would a woman want to become “redpilled” or Men’s Rights/MGTOW sympathizer? Many people do not act in their best self interest. In most cases its just because they don't know any better. Anyone who has ever took even an introductory course in economics knows how irrational their day to day decisions are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/22 10:36 PM
3	If the theory of 80/20 rule is true (which it seems to show on online dating) what explains the mismatch in attractiveness partnership irl? We see the same 80/20 problem. 20% of those on OF make 80% of the profit. Its not even necessarily looks. Like everything else you need to actually put work into it. For the other 80%, whether it be not having the right equipment, or just to lazy, typical for the gen z, stability sounds pretty good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/06/22 12:35 AM
2	If the theory of 80/20 rule is true (which it seems to show on online dating) what explains the mismatch in attractiveness partnership irl? Sure, women can make their own money, but how much? Too many women here fall for the apex fallacy, and think its just normal to make six figures. Half of all American cant find $500 for an emergency. 1/3 to 1/2 make $15 or less depending on the study and demographic. This is for all American and just in normal times. Now change the demographic to younger women and the year to 2022 with covid and record high inflation. Things just aren't looking that great.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/22 11:45 PM
3	If the theory of 80/20 rule is true (which it seems to show on online dating) what explains the mismatch in attractiveness partnership irl? Well, 80/20 applied to quite a few things. For one, only 20% of men are considered average or above average in attractiveness, while it is 80% for women. So its just maths that at least 60% of the pairings would be where the men are considered less attractive than the women, although their percentile in attractiveness might not actually differ. Dating =/= Fucking. The Betas are the ones taking women out in hopes for any crumb of sex. Alpha Chads just ring her up at night for a booty call and you…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/22 10:49 PM
0	Men and women who consider themselves career oriented, focused, driven, etc, what are your main reasons/inspirations for wanting a career? When i was young, I wanted to go up an be just like my grandfather. That is to have a traditional wife and be retired. In fact that was what I wrote in elementary school. When they made us write about what we wanted to grow up to be, I wrote that I wanted to be retired. I remember it vividly, just because my teacher found it hilarious that a kid like me wanted retire. That is still my dream today. When I go to work or when I save and invest my money, what I think about is how it brings me closer…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/06/22 09:39 PM
2	[discussion question] Would you rather be being a EXTREMELY attractive and rich woman or a EXTREMELY attractive and rich man?? Men. An attractive man is exclusive. It means you are the top 20% of man. Being an attractive women just means you are in the top 80% of women. We can move the bar higher but the same issue of exclusively hold. An extremely attractive man would be top 0.1%,while an extremely attractive woman might just be top 5-10%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/06/22 08:55 PM
2	Are a majority of women Bi? If the Washington Post is anything to go by, every girl is bi..	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/22 10:51 PM
4	The Average Man is so Pathetic/Low Effort that There are No Excuses Unless You Have AWFUL Genetics and/or are extremely unlucky. In everything in life, there is a top 50% and a bottom 50%. Every single characteristic and profession has this bottom 50% and top 50%. Being above average in something almost always necessitates being below average in something else. Working 12 hours a day at the office, inevitably cuts into time for working out at the gym. Do both for substantial amount of time and you start having below average mental health. Maybe you can add in something more into your schedule to counteract it, at which po…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/06/22 01:30 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Yea. Sounds exhausting. But then again what isn't? Doing things by its very nature is exhausting. I need money, and there isn't a single mean of making money i wouldn't find exhausting. Similarly, I need sex, and their isn't a single means of being attractive to get sex that I don't find exhausting. If its all exhausting anyways, might as well do the one that is the most effective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/22 08:34 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread most humans have an innate desire to get up and do something whether be it work Bullshit. If humans had innate desire to work, we wouldn't need to have a whole capitalistic society to pay people to do just that. The whole study of economics is built on the foundation that work must be incentivized. Most people don't work for the sake of working, its for the goods and services they can afford by working.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/22 08:19 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Playing videos (all day) can't feel right to anyone who is honest with themselves. Why? Because you said so? Its even more important to note that video games is not the only unattractive thing, its just the poster child. So what you are basically saying is that anyone "honest with themselves" must not feel right if whatever their interest is is unattractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/22 08:05 PM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Hard disagree. "Authenticity" is just another way of saying "be yourself". Which only works if "yourself" is attractive to begin with. If "what feels right to you" is playing video games, then good fucking luck getting the ladies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/06/22 07:53 PM
7	The only way to success with women You are basically suggesting to double down on being a beta. At best, it works with post wall or near post wall women. In all due likelihood it doesn't work at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/06/22 11:59 PM
1	As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society...... The perk of being a slave is that you aren't out of place in the plantation. Advantages in the context of working and doing aren't actually advantages. That is because only the disadvantaged need to work and do in the first place. I dont want an advantage when out and about. I want the advantage to have no need to leave the house in the first place. I dont want an advantages at work. I want the advantage to not need to work. I dont want to have an advantage DOING anything, true advantages come f…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/06/22 10:09 PM
7	Daily Community Chat Megathread You can't choose if you don't have options to choose from. Most men do not have options, most women do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/06/22 07:33 AM
1	The simple fact of modern dating today is that being single just means you are in one way or the other just plain undesirable. I guess it just boils down to what the bar for desirability is. Basically everyone is going to be "in one way or the other just plain undesirable." The back of the napkin calculation would be (.5)n to be above average in n variables, and reality is actually worse than that. Being above average in some aspects almost necessitates being below average in others. For example, above average income usually means above average time studying/working, resulting in below average time working out/socializi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/22 10:16 PM
2	Why don’t more men get sex bot? The technology just isn't there yet. When we have Westworld/Marilyn Monrobots, I'll be lining up for it. Its like asking why people complaining about unaffordable housing don't just live in a cardboard box.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/06/22 05:19 PM
5	All of this back and forth is pointless, women will always have an extreme advantage ONLY because men are way hornier and therefore want and need women way more than women will ever want or need men. It all comes back to this very basic fact. Everytime the prostitution topic comes up I see people sharing their experiences from places in SEA like Thailand, or Latin America like Mexico, as nothing but amazing. Then you hear people from Germany and Austrlia saying its doesn't fix anything at all. It just seems to me like Germany and Australia are doing prostitution wrong. Maybe its the pricing, the regulation, the prejudice against buying, or maybe just that western society in general is corrupted by feminism beyond salvaging.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/22 09:32 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread Maybe true for the young'em. Using imaginations a skill many learned before pornhub.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/22 07:37 PM
1	How do you feel when you see a not so attractive guy with a girlfriend? They must be foreigners. Being a techbro in California, I'm surrounded by more foreigners than locals. Damn, hearing how dating and life in general is like from my foreign friends just makes me envious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/06/22 01:41 AM
1	Why are tradcons complaining about women joining the workforce, when that's literally capitalism thriving? I wouldn't even put the two on the same political spectrum. Tradcon has conservative right there in the name, and unrestricted free market capitalism is more libertarian.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/06/22 11:29 PM
4	theory: men are shit at dating because they don't have types like women do and try to appeal to to wide of a net Does the user name checkout? I feel like if a man only went for women with the anime waifu personality, they'd die a virgin.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/06/22 10:44 PM
41	What's your "I'm such a catch, but nobody wants me" grievance? Can you elaborate on that and point out what you think you deserve? “I am a nicer guy than Henry.” Or to spell it out very carefully, Henry clearly has no trouble attracting partners. He’s been married five times and had multiple extra-marital affairs and pre-marital partners, many of whom were well aware of his past domestic violence convictions and knew exactly what they were getting into. Meanwhile, here I was, twenty-five years old, never been on a date in my life, every time I ask someone out I get laughed at, I’m constantly teased and mocked for being a vi…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/06/22 07:13 PM
10	Q4MEN: What are the clues a woman can use to tell if a man only wants sex and not commitment? There are two types of people. Those that thrive on novelty, and those that find comfort in familiarity. Those that seek out novelty aren't gonna commit, they are gonna be bored no matter who they are with. Those that like familiarity would just love the person they are with more and more. The "problem" with this is that this personality trait is generally consistent for everything in life. The men that would commit to a women, also usually "commit" to the eating the same food, going to the same…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/22 06:45 PM
1	The Secret… Is, Well, Not Really A Secret At All, But Persists As The Ultimate Mystery To Many Men TLDR: "It is more important to be interested than to be interesting."	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/22 06:16 PM
11	When did the Red Pill all become about women and marriage? Might be my choice of content but I seem to be not alone with that the most popular content creators You answered your own question. Stop basing reality off of Youtube. Want to invest? Grab a book by Warren Buffett or Peter Lynch. DONT listen to cryptoguru Youtuber. Want to learn more about Covid? Listen to what the CDC has to say. DONT start drinking bleach because some Youtuber said it was a home remedy. What to know more about TRP? Read the fucking sidebar, DONT follow conartists on Youtube.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/22 06:13 PM
2	For young men, 2 options are available to improve, which you think is better? Option A if you want to focus on the short term, and Option B if you are willing to defer gratification. The thing with bodybuilding is that it takes constant effort to maintain, whereas money makes you more money. Imagine you work hard making six figures a year and you save for a decade or so to be a millionaire. Well, assuming the 4% rule hold true, you can spend $40,000 a year for sex every year (either outsourcing the hard work in dating or straight up paying for it) and still never run out …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/06/22 06:03 AM
1	The Reason I Think Most RPers are Unsuccesful in Dating It's the simplicity of their worldview. The simplicity isn't in the world view, its in the execution. Here's an example. Some people are attracted to fit bodies, some attracted to fat bodies, some attracted to thin bodies, and hell some are attracted to deformed bodies. SO WHAT? The distribution and intensity in which people find different body types attractive is complicated and ever changing. That fact is fucking useless. What is a man to do with his body when he want to increase his chances t…	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/06/22 03:12 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread I think they just cancel out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/06/22 12:48 AM
4	How do you view arbitrary numbers when it comes to what’s “high” and “low” from past sexual partners? You are operating in black and white thinking here. Most things operate on a sliding scale. There is a lot of different ways to treat women that exist between wife for life and whore. In addition, age certainly has to play a role as the older we get, the more of life we will have lived / experienced. So to hold a 30 year old to the same standard of a 18 year old seems odd. The issue here is that it being older just makes it worse. Sure technically being 30 yo instead of an 18 yo makes a higher n…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/06/22 01:47 AM
6	What is an average woman to you? This here is just another reason why more and more Californians are leaving the state. So many of my friends are in a joking not joking type of way wishing for another virus so they can go back to enjoying life working remote in a better city.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/22 11:48 PM
9	What is an average woman to you? The average and bare minimum used to be the same thing for me. You could have took one from all the girls I graduated high school with and there's a 50% chance the high school graduate me would be satisfied. This is no longer the case. I didnt go to the best university in the world, work my ass off to get into a FAANG company, and earn 6 figure compensation just to settle for average. The bare minimum now would be that she be fit and attractive for me to invest in her. I've put too much into sel…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/06/22 08:55 PM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Just say it if you want him to bend you over...	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/22 09:08 PM
7	Daily Community Chat Megathread Its all sunshine and roses when the couple is in their honeymoon phase, but this becomes an issue the moment there's an argument. One day the woman's gonna start nagging, or get mad because the man is gonna decide to play video games instead of whatever bullshit she wants to do. Disagreements are inevitable in the long term. Its then that men would think to themselves, she's been fucked by 15+ men for the price of a drink and I'm listening to her nagging?!?! Fuck this shit, I'm leaving.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/22 03:44 PM
11	Romantic successes and failures can have profound impacts on how men think I'm not surprised by the correlation, but the causation seems speculative at best. I can think of half a dozen more plausible reasons for causation than this "emotion" bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/06/22 04:19 AM
1	What Standards that the Opposite Sex has do you Consider Acceptable/ Encouragable . You want someone who doesn’t want to (work/live near/etc) with (blacks/gays/trans/etc) to (work/live by/etc) with (blacks/gays/trans/etc) anyway? 🤢	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/22 11:38 PM
11	What Standards that the Opposite Sex has do you Consider Acceptable/ Encouragable . Consistent standards. Basically, not AFBB. You gave it up to the last guy for a drink and a ride home? Great, I want the same treatment. You would only give it up to the reliable man that promises to marry you? Thats great too, wish you the best whether that man is me or not. Just dont give it up for free to one man and have "standards" for the next.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/22 10:28 PM
3	What's the alternative to "be yourself"? The alternative to be yourself is to act for the best results. "Be yourself" is horrible advice as it gets it wrong twice. Men don't have the luxury to just "be". As is said many times, women are valued as human BEings while men are valued as human DOings. Its not enough to be smart, confident,etc. Men need to actively DO things to show it off. The second part it gets wrong is the "yourself" part, even when people say be the best version of yourself. If you like to play video games, a better ver…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/06/22 06:23 PM
0	I keep seeing we have enormously high standards but like what exactly are they? And why does the dating world not reflect said absurdly Hugh standards most women have? you should always aim high for anything, sometimes it works out right? This give me the same vibe as the ads for the lotto that tell you you can't win if you don't play. Sure they are technically correct, but you have to be missing quite a lot of braincells to think its a good idea. In dating its an even worst idea, because you didn't just waste your money, you wasted your youth. This is fine I guess if people really want to take those odds, but the issue is that they then become a liability. Pe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/06/22 06:09 PM
3	Honestly, what do you think when you see adult men following younger girls on social media? I actually have a very similar line or reasoning as yours, with a very different conclusion. The book is almost always better than the movie. So, if I wanted to enjoy a plot, I'd read the damn book. The only reason I would look for visual entertainment is, well, if there is somebody that was visually pretty to look at (either on screen or sitting next to me on a date.) So basically the ONLY reason I would be looking and listening to someone is if they are good looking and have an attractive voic…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/05/22 01:03 AM
5	why do men puruse women who don't have profile pics on their tinder/okc profiles Because while women only see less than 20% of men as fuckable, men see more than 80% of women as fuckable. The odds of any given profile being real, leading to a meet up, and actually resulting in sex is pretty low to begin with, so whats another 20% risk of her not being fuckable.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/05/22 06:59 PM
10	Daily Community Chat Megathread 80/20. We can argue til the cows come home about the exact figures, but its indisputable that the minority of men at the top take way more than their fair share of women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/05/22 05:25 AM
7	It's less women are "more content being single" than men, and more women ARE "more okay choosing single over choosing a relationship that doesn’t net positive." men view "chance of sex" ... as "added value" more than women do So men on average have a higher sex drive. Men need and value sex more is not a statement anyone should be shocked by.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/05/22 08:02 PM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread So where do people here get their headlines and memes? Is it Twitter? 9gag? 4chan? just other subreddits? Finally got caught up on the whole Elon Musk twitter saga, and it just got me thinking about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/05/22 03:09 AM
9	Why are some people content with sexlessness? I've also work with a lot of people in category 1. The difference is that I wouldn't really say they are content, but rather just content for now. Basically they are ok to live without for now, but the assumption that they will get it all in the future pushes them forward. Its like the bookworms in school. Their life is consumed by studying while everyone else is partying and enjoying their youth, but they are fine with it and might even feel superior, with a belief that they would get it all an…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/22 10:11 PM
11	If studies have shown that a higher n-count leads to less satisfying relationships, why are some people unhappy when their dates don’t sleep with them early on? Shouldn’t we actually prefer that? In sum, the surprisingly large number of Americans reporting one lifetime sex partner have the happiest marriages. Past one partner, it doesn’t make as much of a difference. Its interesting that from what your study says it's virgin with you being the first or bust, since the difference between non-zero n-counts is basically non-existent. Also, the study falls into the same correlation/causation trap. It can be just as true to say that people who are happy with marriage, or just happy with what …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/05/22 05:50 PM
-1	Men also practice dual mating strategy Everything done by women are also done by men. Its just a matter of how many. For most things talked about in this sub, a good rule of thumb would be 80% of women and 20% of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/22 07:49 PM
2	Okcupid says that women find 80% of men unattractive but they still message these men, so why all the complaints? And why is that part never mentioned? Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who women message. Hell, the focus wasn't ever even on who women find attractive. The core statistic that actually matters is who women actually FUCK. So here's the question, what influences who women fuck? It turns out who women find attractive influences who they fuck a lot more than who they message. So of course we focus on the attractiveness aspect more.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/05/22 03:14 AM
1	Daily Community Chat Megathread It's only a choice when there are legitimate options. I haven't had much of that in my decade plus of adult life, so I'll take what I can get.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/05/22 10:38 PM
3	Daily Community Chat Megathread Sounds like the dream girl I'd want to laze around with	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/05/22 12:08 AM
7	Data on beta buxxing is skewed because there is an extended period where the beta buxxers bury their heads in the sand but most studies measure satisfaction at one point in time and that skews the results. I think the results are actually skewed for the opposite reason. There are quite a lot of data that track people over their entire life. So the men that said marriage gave them the most joy were right. They didn't have have their head in the sand. It's just that they got married in 1950, and the quality of women and marriage have had some fundamental changes (mostly declined) since then.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/05/22 08:39 AM
1	Being happy with yourself more important than shiny attributes when finding a partner? It is well known that people have a baseline of happiness. So if we use happiness as a metric then nothing is important and makes the discussion pointless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/05/22 06:58 PM
1	Attraction and Attractiveness are dynamic/flexible and heavily influenced by things like behavior, demographics and competence. Attraction is influenced by demographics and competence. Yes, but not demographics and competence are created equal. It just so happens that 80% of the female demographics is attracted to the 20% of the male demographics competent in maintaining a six pack and other alpha attributes, while only 20% of women are attracted to the remaining 80% of men specialized in being knowledgeable and other beta characteristics. It should be obvious which group of men get the best deal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/05/22 09:28 PM
39	Porn has actually freed men more than anything invented before This is like saying we solved the housing crisis because there are free cardboard boxes at every dumpster. Cause the difference in quality between porn and real sex is no closer than that of a cardboard box and a proper house. An alternative of similar quality for having to get real women to put out would indeed be a revolutionary invention. I'm still waiting for my Marilyn Monrobot. But porn just ain't it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/22 06:56 PM
22	Men point out that the example of men woman have is cut from the group of men woman chose. This is obviously true. But id argue it’s the same for men. The biggest problem is that the group of men women pay attention to is the top 20%, while the group of women men pay attention to is the top 80%.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/05/22 06:28 AM
24	The problem of RP men I guess there are pink collar workers, just not many of them are men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/05/22 04:43 AM
0	What are the professions of the men on this sub? I worked in various tech companies. Biotech, FAANG, and startups. Its not so much that I don't have female colleagues, its that I basically don't work with colleagues at all. I've been working from home for half a decade now, long before Covid made it the thing to do. I did have to go in to the office occasionally before, but I had an office room that separated me from the plebs outside in the cubicles/open office.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/22 10:03 PM
1	Self-improvement makes it harder to find a partner I've come to a similar conclusion. When you don't have anything accomplished, you won't meet women's standards to find a partner. When you are an accomplished individual, women won't meet your standards for you to want them as a partner. What a partnership is about, is that you have a woman that supports your improvements and achievements, and you share said accomplishments with her. The core issue is that women nowadays just wait at the finish line. So if you DNF you are invisible to women, and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/05/22 06:30 AM
8	Men also look at women through an af/bb lens For the most part I think short term vs long term is just correlation, the causation comes down to young and attractive vs old and unattractive. After all, a core issue betas have with AF/BB comes to the ordering, in which the alphas get her when she is young, and the betas get the "privilege" of marrying her when she's old and used up. Flip the script where women marry betas when young and attractive, and only fuck the alphas after she gets old and divorced, the quotation marks around privilege…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/05/22 11:35 PM
16	What is an average guy? average male is struggling significantly Conversations with undefined terms a fairly meaningless. What criteria are we using to evaluate if someone is struggling or not? We live in a society where the richest 20% owns 80% of all value, and the average man needs to sell himself into corporate slavery for 40 hours a week, almost every week, for 40-50 years. Given this information I would say the average man struggles to acquire wealth. Of course some might argue having a job is enough and unemploy…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/05/22 07:24 PM
58	single guys, do you spend time with girls you're not attracted to? No. As a man with a healthy sex drive, I am sufficiently attracted to most women to have sex with them given the opportunity. So I'd have to go out of my way to find a woman I'm not attracted to, and I find no reason to do so.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/05/22 11:48 PM
1	What do you do to lead a fulfilling life outside of romantic/sexual relationships? Nothing. I don't need to "do" anything to be fulfilled outside of the sexual context, I already am. I find fulfillment as a human BEING not as a human DOING. I can be happy and content just BEING in a temperature controlled room, wrapped in a comfy blanket, and a podcast playing in the background. I need not DO anything to feel fulfilled and complete outside of sexual relationships.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/05/22 05:16 AM
1	How much time does a highly productive man actually have to give you? This is why we generally breakdown men into alphas and betas. The mythical AlphaBux is unachievable for all except the top percent of men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/04/22 08:33 PM
2	What makes men date women with mental illnessess? Sometimes men get more out of relationships, sometimes women get more out of relationships. The usual pattern is that men get more in youth when women are slightly higher value and women get more as the aging process kicks in and men are higher value. Given that nowadays most women are giving their youth out to their short term/casual sex partners and wait til they are nearing the wall for long term relationships and marriage, men get more out of short term flings and casual sex but actually get…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/04/22 07:14 AM
35	What makes men date women with mental illnessess? Cause its not necessarily more work than dating the average "normal" woman nowadays.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/04/22 04:40 AM
1	Be honest, would you date the equivalent to yourself? I wouldn't think it ideal, but the answer is YES. Sex is the biggest determining factor when making this decision. Dating a woman where maintenance is just having sex (as it is with me) seems like a godsend. Now as I said, it is not ideal, and if you took the sex aspect out, the answer would be hard NO. The reason is that I see good relationships as fundamentally a yin and yang pairing where you benefit from division of labour. So an example is when one likes to drive and the other likes to be c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/04/22 05:08 AM
8	Alpha-Bux, the male unicorn, myth or rare? Of course its rare. Even having just one attribute puts you in the minority. Something like 70% of Americans are overweight and 60% can't gather a thousand dollars for an emergency, and the standard for "alpha" and "beta bux" is usually way higher than that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/04/22 08:12 PM
1	The idea that education/profession puts you in the "beta" category is hilarious Really now. Cause what I see are women that fuck frat boys at 18-22 while still studying for Bachelors, banging the hot bartenders for the next few years while interning/gathering work experience, then at maybe 27-28 they get some company education reimbursement program and apply for MBA or whatnot, and then finally when they got their masters and are about to hit the age where they hit the wall they start looking at average Joe with masters degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/22 09:29 PM
1	The idea that education/profession puts you in the "beta" category is hilarious Cute, plain, educated Amy with a master's degree isn't looking for retarded Chad who works at McDonalds. Correct. But you forgot to mention who she's fucking while she was still studying to get that masters degree. This is the heart of AFBB. Betas still get a girl in the end (but only after she's spent her youth with Alphas)	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/22 09:15 PM
12	What trust issues do you have when it comes to women? La Donna e mobile~ I think the saying goes something along the lines that men hope their women will never change. Women hope their man will change. Invariably they are both disappointed. There are a lot of debate around the reasons and intentions but the core issue is that you cannot trust that she would be the same long term. At best you have to constantly reinvent yourself to be adventurous and exciting to satisfy a woman's ever changing desires. At worse she ditches you all together and cycle…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/04/22 07:36 PM
1	[Q4All]Do you think it’s possible to be unsuccessful in romance/dating and be happy/ok with it? Yes. Some people see romance as an end in and of itself, but many more know it to be a means to an end. This comes back to the age old PPD question, what do women bring to the table? The answer is not much and the little they do, can be gained outside of romance and dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/03/22 02:59 PM
7	Intelligence and personality matter A LOT There are diminishing returns with intelligence. Basically, if you are smarter than a fifth grader, the marginal benefit of intelligence in terms of dating, is minuscule. So for the majority of men, the actionable advice doesn't change: Focus more on looks and less on intelligence. The only time it would be sexual beneficial to focus on intelligence is if you are at the very top and you can elevate from being an AlphaFux to an AlphaBux, or if you at the very bottom where you are dumber than the …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/22 11:37 PM
1	Questions for those who MGTOW / WGTOW As in did you set out to have a single life This statement seems pretty weird to me. Single life is not something you need to make an active decision to "set out to have", single life is the default you start out with. I guess technically single life requires that you have all the skills required by life instead of just half of it (ex: my grandpa never cooked a single meal, and grandma never worked a job for a single day), and to that I would say it really wasn't an option for me. What has been …	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/03/22 08:05 AM
5	Carrying yourself with confidence, good posture, and a relaxed, easy demeanor and grin is all anyone needs to "get their foot in the door" All those things are more about others perception of you and less about objective measurable reality. As with most things perception, it depends on whether you follow Rule 1 and 2. Its the difference between a confident man with good posture and grin, and a cocky asshole manspreading with a creepy smirk.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/03/22 10:05 PM
8	Why would you expect women to be attracted to guys who do the easiest thing, live the path of least resistance? Because it works for women, and feminists keep saying men and women are not only equivalent but equal in every way. So if women can attract men with zero effort, men would be able to attract women with zero effort. Because it worked for Chad, and women keep virtue signaling and downplaying the importance of looks. So for the many men that believe in women, they think that if it works for Chad it would work for them. Because it worked in the media, and as much as the manosphere want to spread tru…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/03/22 07:16 PM
1	Do you want your ideal girl to like your superficial aspects? This touches on to the "pair bonding" that is discussed so much. The ideal is that a woman has sex with me and bonds through the sex with me. Having a woman bond with me before having sex with me is having things in the reverse order. Ideal Relationship: Sex->Bond over said sex Transactional Relationship: Pay the price to acquire some characteristic> Woman likes me for said characteristic>Sex	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/02/22 03:48 AM
4	What is the point or purpose of having a hook-up? Because the better alternatives aren't available. I'd love to have sex with a harem of beautiful women that I have built a relationship with and have been vetted for STDs, mental health, etc etc etc. But that's not an option available to me. So I have to settle for something less. Either not have sex (which is an infinitely worse alternative for any man with a health sex drive) or hook up with women that aren't vetted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/02/22 04:38 AM
17	Why are you people so opposed to calling out shallow dating culture? Where are we drawing the line for "being shallow"? Most people here just say that they want to fuck someone that is fuckable, a 5-6/10. Whenever we get a hypothetical question of whether men would want a 6 with a great personality or a 10 with a horrible one, most choose the 6. I would hardly call that shallow. There is also the issue with what "good values and fundamental principles" means. For a sizable portion of the community here, that means traditional ideals with breadwinner and housewife…	/r/PurplePillDebate	15/02/22 10:49 PM
3	[Q4ALL] ‘When’ did you discover Red Pill/Manosphere? I would say I officially got into TRP towards the end of my life as a university student. I don't think it affected me much in that I was fairly RP before RP was a thing. When I was in university I had a heavy interest in economics and finance. Quite a few of my professors actually used dating dynamics to explain academic principles. So to me the establishment of TRP that explains dating dynamics as economic and financial decisions was very much inline with how I already viewed the world.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/22 09:57 PM
16	For men, lowering your standards is a much better dating strategy than self improvement. go after less desirable women (e.g. fat women, single moms, dwarfs, etc). I kinda agree that at some point for some men, it is wise to lower their standards, but I can't for the life of me advocate this bullshit. These are low effort, but very low reward strategies. I mean if you are to drop your standards, you are better off dropping the standard that she speaks your language and getting yourself a mail order bride from Vietnam. Or drop the standard that she not be in it for the money and rent …	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/02/22 05:02 AM
1	Red Pillers: How often do you masturbate, if at all? I can't think of any connection between RP and porn for me. I also doesn't think it means much when you say 4-8 times a day without saying how long each session is. Personally, when I watch porn, I skip the plot but watch most of the action from start to finish. For a lot of people that say they do it often, its a 5 minute short quickie type of deal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 04:08 AM
3	Do you think lying to get money (gold digging) is okay? If the alternative is legal and READILY AVAILABLE. I always think back to a headline news a few years back with these types of questions. There was a starving man that stole food to eat. He was arrested, but everyone in court refused to convict him. The reason being that no man should be punished when they had to steal to eat. Now if it was a rich man stealing, it would have been another story. I know nothing of Australia, but if a man lives near a place that has legal prostitutes and he has the…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 12:26 AM
4	Do you think lying to get money (gold digging) is okay? Surely, if you think lying for sex is okay because it’s legal then gold digging is also okay because it’s legal, right? What are the alternatives? If the alternative is legal and readily available, then its not ok. Lying for sex is mostly legal, whereas prostitution mostly isn't. Lying for money can be legal, but making your own money is also legal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/02/22 12:11 AM
10	Would you rather date a woman who has a very successful OF but virgin or a woman who's had many partners? Do you prefer a car that's been in a commercial for all to see but was never driven, or a car that was pre-owned by 30-40 decent guys? I prefer the one that was never used.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/22 06:15 PM
2	Both the Redpill and FDS seem to be primarily Low Socioeconomic Status inidividuals I'm from California born and raised, where all the biopharmaceutical and tech companies are. Its sad that the conclusion you jump to is that people must be in a foreign country to not care for a woman's education, or for woman to influence their career at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/02/22 06:12 PM
3	Both the Redpill and FDS seem to be primarily Low Socioeconomic Status inidividuals I think you would be surprised at how much marrying a low status woman could affect an ambitious man's political, business, and career prospects. My friends are all in their 30s, so only time would tell if they get affected. The problem I have is just that ambition and socioeconomic status aren't really all that related. High status individuals can be unambitious and low status individuals can be super ambitious. So even if the degree in which one cares about a woman's education links with his a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/22 11:39 PM
4	Both the Redpill and FDS seem to be primarily Low Socioeconomic Status inidividuals I have also seen how these redpill youtubers talk First thing first, the problem with RP youtubers isn't that they are RP, its that they are youtubers. This isn't unique to RP. We don't trust youtubers on investing or covid, why trust youtuber on RP. they do not care about a woman's educational status. helped another negotiate when buying her first condo. Secondly, I have some confusion on where you are drawing the line for low vs high socioeconomic status. Someone buying her first condo, and ac…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/22 11:14 PM
2	Do men and women (straight) actually want LTRs nowadays? Its kinda hard to talk about what people want in a vacuum. You have to look at the risks and alternatives. Like do people actually want to win the lottery? Of course. But any one with half a brain wouldn't ever try to do it. Its because it is very unlikely that you win and the expected return is 50 cents per dollar. So many people end up "wanting" a high paying job instead. So do people want LTRs. Yes, people are just as serious about LTR as the have been in the past. But the risks and incentive…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/02/22 08:41 PM
4	If all men are assholes and all women are evil, they why the hell are you here amongst that which you hate and fear? If all men are assholes Well a sizable portion of women tend to actually love assholes. There has to be a real reasoning beyond "muh biology" And for any man with a health sex drive, biology actually is reason enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/02/22 07:26 AM
1	Since being introduced to TRP content, how has that affected your experience watching shows and movies? I've just found less enjoyment in newer content in general. It could be because an increasing percentage of shows are being ruined by feminism/woke/blue pill culture, it could be that shows have always been full of shit and I've just realized it learning of TRP, or I guess I can just be getting old and fallen into the boomer mindset that things back in the day were better.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/02/22 02:03 AM
17	People who claim "Blue Pill" advice doesn't work didn't actually understand the deeper truth hiding behind it What it SHOULDN'T mean At some point you just got to admit that you said it wrong instead of blaming people for misunderstanding. If you say you should "turn right" and have to supplement it that you need to do it three times, then what you really should have said is turn left. If you are going to say "just be yourself" but need to add to it an assumption that there is a consensus of what makes someone a "shitty" person and what changes make you a "better" person then you should have just said "…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/02/22 05:44 PM
10	Question for All - how do you define the different pill groups? Something agree upon by all sides is that women don't just fall into men's lap for no reason whatsoever. Men need to be something or do something. In other words men need to work for it. The conclusion you draw out of this fact determines your pill. MGTOW: Its not worth the work. This can be because your time is more valuable, or sex and women is less valuable to you. TRP: I don't want to do the work but I think it can be worth it. Since I don't actually want to do the work, I'll research a bit …	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/01/22 09:39 PM
6	Red Pill Extremism Will Get You No Where Men and women were put on Earth for the sole purpose of coming together as one to form a family. I'm in agreement with the tradcons and believe in the merits of the traditional family, but when you start talking about it being "the sole purpose" and all that bullshit, it just makes me think of you as no better than those religious nutjobs. You're sitting here criticizing supposed extremism, while holding on to rigid world views. A good family is great, but by no means a necessity for happiness. …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/01/22 11:13 PM
–	The Golden Rule to Dating: Like Attracts Like they are attracting different equivalents of themselves. What is "equivalent"? No two people are the same in every metric. So is a man that is in 30th percentile in looks but 70th percentile in wealth/intelligence "equivalent" to a 70th percentile woman in looks but 30th percentile in wealth/intelligence? Or is it only looks where a 5/10 is "equivalent" to other 5/10 no matter what? Or is it something else? This basically hits at the heart of the pillosphere debate. A black pill would say sexual…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/01/22 09:55 PM
0	How important is it to you that you meet all your bf/gf physical requirements? It is a red flag, but its important to remember that a red flag is just a warning of danger not actual danger. I care when my gf has been/is/will be fucking other men, and not me. That is the fundamental concern. Everything else are just a red flags indicating the statistical likelihood of this issue, they are not issues in and of themselves. If my gf doesn't like my physical attributes, it increase the likelihood that she go find and fuck another man with physical attributes that she likes. I h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/01/22 09:22 PM
2	For those who would prefer if their partner had no sexual experience outside of yourself, how do you feel about them watching porn? Don't care. I find the two not even comparable. Porn has no more impact than say video games. Its like comparing murder to GTA or CS:GO. As long as her physical body has no sexual experience outside of me, I don't care how many sexual experiences she mentally fantasizes about.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/01/22 07:12 AM
7	[Q4M] Will you be checking out of your relationships at a certain age? If a woman gave me her youth when she was more valuable than me, then that alone is enough reason for me stay with her when she gets old and I become more valuable than her. Now if she spend her youth riding the CC "finding herself" then I see no reason to stay with her in old age when I have the means to find myself a younger model.	/r/PurplePillDebate	18/01/22 08:25 AM
4	Dating is only worth doing if you want to be deceitful and manipulative That's just life. Yea, you have to be a bit "deceitful and manipulative" in dating, but no more so than holding down a job or maintaining a social life or anything else in life. When people want money, they pretend to be interested in learning and growing in whatever industry they are trying to get into. When people want all the benefits of having a social network they have to pretend to give a fuck about what happens in other peoples' lives. The same happens with dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/01/22 12:40 AM
2	Pick one: dateless or jobless. Which situation is worse to you? I rather be Dateless. your job situation is great and you live comfortably. If I have a great job and am living comfortably, then that means I have disposable income, income which I can exchange for sex. So Dateless means I can have my financial AND sexual needs met. you're not mooching off them or living with them But here with joblessness I can ONLY have my sexual need met.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/22 06:20 AM
11	Alpha/beta/sigma is just astrology for straight men. I believe the flaw of the initial study was that alpha and beta as defined in the original paper did not exist naturally in the wild, but only in captivity. But there was no question that hierarchies of dominance exists amongst most living things where individuals with certain (alpha) characteristics gain preferential access to limited resources and mating opportunities. There is no denying that even in humans, men with certain traits (we call them Alpha men) get more resources and sex than othe…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/22 02:31 AM
5	What are opinions you hold that would get you shamed or lambasted by The Red Pill or Blue Pill or FDS? I don't "do it for myself." Labour is something done for compensation. In other words, the only reason I do anything is so that I can gain something in return. Just as I learn marketable skills and enter the labour market for money, I learn game and enter the sexual marketplace for sex. Give me the money and sex, and I'll gladly skip out on self-improvement and just spend the rest of my life indulging in material comfort and sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/01/22 01:56 AM
1	Given the prevalent notion that all woman on dating apps only “match” with 20 percent of the same guys; why do the other 80 percent of guys remain using said apps? all 80% of woman on dating apps only “match” with 20 percent of the same guy FTFY The 80/20 guideline is that 80% of women go for 20% of men, not all woman. So there is still that 20% of woman out there. Odds are bad, but not impossible. More importantly the alternatives are all worse. As bad as it is, its still better than sexlessness, or risk jail time paying for sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/01/22 01:56 AM
8	Marriage Mega-Thread "What's the secret of a great marriage? It's not looks, nor intelligence, nor money — it's low expectations.” - Warren Buffett	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/01/22 10:21 PM
1	What is your opinion on this recent study claiming that unpartnered adults fare worse than their partnered peers? Income is highly correlated to education, so I can only see it as education and income influencing marriage than the other way around. I mean the studied demographic is the 25-54 age range and that is past the age range where most people obtain formal education.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/21 08:17 PM
8	Why do people say that "women are born. Men are made"...? In my opinion this is not a matter of gender, but an individual matter of "attractiveness". The issue is that the average man is not attractive to women, the average woman is attractive to men. The 80/20 guideline is basically implied by most pillosphere statements. More than 80% of woman have value just by being born. More than 80% of men need to work on themselves to have the same value.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/21 07:46 PM
36	Any man who calls marriage a scam clearly isn't a part of a successful, happy marriage. "It total works, you're just doing it wrong." said by frauds everywhere from those shilling out weight loss pills to MLM. The only way those weight loss pills stay legal is that in the fine print somewhere it says that it should be used in combination with a balanced diet and exercise. It which case, you would lose weight with or without the pills. The same thing happens with marriage claims. Every claim that marriage is good for you eventually has to be followed up by a statement that you have …	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/21 12:34 AM
1	What’s wrong with beta males? can there be too many alphas? We'd never have too many alphas. That's because alpha is a relative quality. Its like saying we'd have too many geniuses and need more idiots, or we'd have too many rich people and need more poor people to work. Once everyone reaches a higher (or lower) level or intelligence, or wealth, or alpha/beta-ness the benchmark adjusts to where the hierarchy stays the same.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/21 12:40 AM
8	Question for redpill: What should the people who will not be in a top 20% relationship do with their lives? Suck it up and live a life of misery Life is not binary. Its just that the ratio of suffering to enjoyment increases the lower the percentile you are. A millionaire can leisurely enjoy every single hour of their life. The average American suffers through roughly 40 hours of misery as a corporate slave to make enough money to enjoy the rest of his life. Someone from a third world country suffers even more hours a day, and so on. This happens with relationships as well. The top percentiles will be…	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/21 06:38 PM
28	Men overestimate how "easy" it is for women to date. It is much harder than they think. However where I live, young men rarely approach. Our society is increasingly hostile to men who approach in real life. A lot of that has moved online. Make a profile on any one of the dating apps and your problem is solved. It really is that easy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/21 05:02 PM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread Starting the year off with a staggered return and rotating schedule. Which in a way makes it worse. If I'm forced to go back to paying expensive California rent, I'd at least want to offset that with free food and amenities of being in the office every day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/21 06:07 AM
2	Daily Community Chat Megathread God damn it, I've just been reminded there's no more WFH and we got to return to office next year. I'm starting to root for Covid here.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/21 05:30 AM
6	Is the r-pill awareness “the wall” for men on families/marriage? TRP is not only aware, for many RPers its the fucking goal. The goal is to be seen as a sexual being, not as husband material.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/21 07:45 AM
2	[Q4ALL] What kind of environment did you grow up in - and how did it affect your view of dating? Red-leaning, born under Bush Sr. I would say the RP motto of "enjoy the decline" resonates with me the most. Every man I know of my grandpa's generation had an amazing wife. Most men I know of my father's generation have a moderately decent wife. No divorces, but debatable whether they would have been better off staying a bachelor for life. Then I look at the women that men of my generation encounter, and it doesn't look good. Dating and relationships really are just something you endure to get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/21 05:58 PM
11	The rise in obesity and decline of testosterone is a good thing for men Society as a whole is getting obese. Which means the things that make your competition fat, is more than likely also affecting you. Its only easier to get to the top when everyone else has a disadvantage but somehow you don't.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/21 01:24 AM
7	The biggest turn on for adult women is a guy that has plenty of things going in in his life. that’s just kind of a human thing...We are attracted to people who go out and do things they are passionate about. To speak in absolutes is to speak like a fool. Pot, Kettle, Black. But I guess I'll acknowledge the fault however pedantic. I'll make the correction: Its MOSTLY a woman thing. Most women are like that, and most men are not. Enough so that it is statistically reasonable to make the assumption a default until proven otherwise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/21 12:28 AM
34	The biggest turn on for adult women is a guy that has plenty of things going in in his life. Nah, that is just a woman thing. As OP says, women aren't attracted to men wasting time on video games, but shit tons of men are attracted to gamer girls. Men don't care how productive or impressive women are. In many case, incompetency in women actually urges men to want to wife her up and protect her. Its just that feminists like to distort this into men "treating women like pets."	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/21 12:15 AM
8	How low can you go.....Financially speaking The problem is always spendings, not earnings. I don't mind a woman having zero net worth, and zero earning potential as long as she isn't racking up the bills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/12/21 07:04 PM
2	How do you feel about men who “upgrade” to better girlfriends once they become successful and leave the old one? What were their relative values in the beginning? Man has lower value at youth and woman has lower value in old age = traditional dynamic. This is a fair deal, and man would be asshole for leaving. Women demand at least equal value at youth and inevitably becomes lower value in old age = modern dynamics. This is a shit deal for men, he should upgrade whenever possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	16/12/21 07:24 PM
72	If you're upset about not having success on OLD, why not lower your standards? There's a minimum threshold. If men dropped their standards anymore than they already have, most of them would be better off just paying for hookers than dating, arguably this is already the case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/21 02:51 AM
3	Statements like: Sex is an individual need/ something objectively good are inaccurate It is completely subjective. And your definition that survival is a need is also only your subjective opinion. Look at the rest of the animal kingdom. Males often fight to the death for mating right. The males of many species straight up die after copulation. Even in humans, many men would gladly shorten their lifespan if it meant more sex.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/21 07:22 PM
6	Too many young fucking loosers diluting the conversation. When you are young and ask how to fuck hot 18 year old women: just concentrate on school bro, pussy comes later. So you study and work on your career and come back again and ask how do I fuck hot 18 year old women: you old bro, what a fucking creep. The only result any opposition like is for the betas to watch on the sidelines as young women fuck Chads, and wife them up when the they done riding the CC.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/21 05:42 AM
1	Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships. I've always seen n-count as a sliding scale. There's no cut off for high n count just that the higher the n-count the worse treatment you gets from partnering with them. From what I seen around me, virgins treat their first love the best. After all most people start off naive and innocent. They believe in the Disney/mass media portrayals where people putting their love interest on the pedestal, and win their love and commitment as a result. This type of romanticism usually gets lost fairly quick…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/21 05:19 PM
-2	With the news reports about outlawing "pestering" women in streets / bars, in the UK, what effect will it have on daygame and cold approaching? I'm having a bit of a deja vu. I think I saw something very similar recently just with UK switched out with Taiwan. The way I see it, these types of laws just criminalizing a lack of social skills/social etiquette. Way too often women "say no" without really saying no. The dialogue on this when I was young was to teach women to say no properly. Nowadays its to teach men that women won't say no properly but can still mean no. All I can see happening in the future is that if a man finds himself in…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/21 02:14 AM
19	Detaching sex from love is the biggest reason high N count women are usually avoided for serious relationships. I actually agree with you. People with high n counts are objectively worse as a spouse whether they are a man or woman. Low n-count people love, treat, and bond with their partners so much better. I think that any rational person that wants to be treated right would want a low n-count partner.... Its just that women get bored of good treatment and aren't the most rational. Men love young low n count woman that would treat them like kings, and see the man as the only one for her. But women hate y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/21 10:30 PM
2	If average men have such a hard time getting in relationships, why do men cheat far more than women? 44% of men who cheated said they do it because they wanted more sex while 40% of men said they wanted more variety in sex. Men need more sex. When their wife isn't providing the quantity and variety of sex he needs he gets it somewhere else. When women want sex, their man are way more likely to provide, so no need to look elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/21 02:45 AM
5	TRP advocates for working on your fitness, money and status, but basically preaches against taking the women who appreciate those "qualities" seriously. If you specifically go for women that don't care about your money as long as you can support yourself, don't want fame and don't need Brad Pitt as their husband, then you'll find your girl. TRP advocates for what has the highest expected return. Finding that girl is at best not worth the years and decades of sexlessness that you have to endure until you find her, and at worst straight up impossible with the general decline in modern woman. What this post sounds like is that lottery slogan that y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/21 12:13 AM
11	Objectively, does red pill have real life relevance? Does it "work"? The RP encompasses a large pool of knowledge, but if I were to point to one thing that works it would be the mindset of an economist. This frame of mind lead you to think about things like sexual market value, risk/returns of relationship/marriage, and ultimately the optimal sexual strategy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/21 08:23 PM
5	Daily Community Chat Megathread I think I have the same view only that I see the gender difference being more nurture than nature. Men are constantly evaluated as a human doing and thus want to bond by simply BEING next to one another. Life is hard for men so bonding and enjoying others company comes in the form of relaxation, leading to examples you described like playing video games and, basically saying nothing. Women on the other hand already get recognition as a human beings instead of human doings and life is easy for th…	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/21 07:41 PM
1	Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men? A big issue here is that we are not specifying a time frame. Women are near priceless when young and near worthless when old. Relative to women, men are lower value when young and higher value when old. Traditionally men and women got married almost immediately when they physically can. For most of history productivity was linked to population and manpower, so basically every society incentivized people to marry and procreate as soon as possible. This meant the discrepancies in value evened out.…	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/21 07:52 PM
2	CMV: Is theRed pill ineffective in the real world due to leadership being mostly scammers? Why does the "Red Pill" produce such useless "leaders" compared to the feminists? Well, I've give the feminists "leaders" credit where credit is due. Almost all self proclaimed leaders are scammers, but feminists are a lot better at scamming people into believing they aren't useless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/21 03:51 PM
2	Can't get "AF"/short term/fun treatment with "BB"/long term/safe priorities. Have you seen anyone with career aspirations? When people have career aspirations they work 12 hours a day and only stop there because their company doesn't want to go into the territory of double pay. When they do get home they use up their training/education reimbursement program to add another degree/certification onto their resume. Every hour used to get into shape is an hour scaled back from their career aspirations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/21 09:07 PM
2	Why is it wrong to prefer to have traditional gender roles? SAHMs don't pay taxes. Cooking for the family and taking care of the kids aren't taxable activities. When a woman works she pays taxes on her income. And when she spends that money on take out and childcare since she can't do it herself, its another taxable transaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/21 10:03 PM
3	How would you sum up the message of Red Pill in one sentence? for a fee Well this is where the other two parts of efficiency and study comes in. It is debatable whether paying for it is more efficient than employing RP strategies. I'm personally on the fence on this one. The PUA demographics of TRP seems to think game is more efficient, and the MGTOW leaning crowd seems to see free sex as the most expensive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/21 08:24 PM
11	How would you sum up the message of Red Pill in one sentence? TRP: A study of gender/sexual relationships in which the aim is the to provide men with the most efficient strategy in acquiring sexual resources. The issue is how each term is interpreted and understood by BP. Study: Debates within a study are healthy (Think how economic debates on minimum wage), but to those without a good understanding of a study, debates within a study becomes a debate against a study (Look how economics can't even agree on minimum wage, economics must be a bogus study). Sex…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/21 06:34 PM
–	Is the only way to be the object of her lust for a LONG time to make an alpha widow of a woman? leave her and come back and leave her and come back (high levels of dread and emotional rollercoaster) I think the concept you are looking for is "intermittent reinforcement".	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/21 08:00 PM
2	"Red Pill" Men: Your problems would not be solved if a woman was willing to have sex with you whenever you wished. As long as this goes both ways I'm cool with it. If society is forcing him to care about the multitude of problems of other people, I sure as hell don't blame him for making his problem society's problem.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/21 07:34 AM
-1	"Red Pill" Men: Your problems would not be solved if a woman was willing to have sex with you whenever you wished. If he doesn't see them as "problems" are they really "problems"? I would say no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/21 05:52 AM
5	"Red Pill" Men: Your problems would not be solved if a woman was willing to have sex with you whenever you wished. Yes. It will. This is because not having enough sex to many men is their only problem. In response to the edit: TRP mindset is amazing. The claims of it being "toxic" are just BS.	/r/PurplePillDebate	19/11/21 05:33 AM
3	TRP is meant to be a locker room not a scientific study TRP is meant to be more practically based IMO, go out try stuff, share your results with other guys, come up with new idea's. Rinse and Repeat. Isn't this just science? Like this just outlines the scientific method with different words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	17/11/21 07:07 PM
1	Did this sub help you in actual dating life? I would say that it help keep me focused. This sub is like my bank account. When I get stressed about that bug/ticket/client/etc at work I look at my bank account to remind myself that the reason I'm there. How does this affect my compensation? Usually I come to the realization that what I'm stressing over on at work mostly has not impact in this regard, my stress was for nothing, and the everyday stress goes away. There are a select few things that are linked to compensation, such as my perform…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/21 04:05 PM
0	Have you ever met a TRP or FDS person in real life? What were their lives like? Yes, I would say most people I know agree on the facts that TRP and FDS share. So the answer to "what were their lives like" would be just how life is like for my demographics. I would start off by saying that I have a STEM degree, took many electives in Econ/Finance, and now work in tech. So having met most of my friends in uni and work, most people I know work in tech or finance. I think this is one of the biggest differences between those who agree with TRP/FDS and those that don't. The peopl…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/11/21 03:37 PM