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/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/26 06:39 AM
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If it would be judging present behaviour you would need to abstain from sex the entire relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 05:24 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:11 PM
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Because you’re saying behaviour x determines (likelihood of) behaviour y
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 04:07 PM
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How is “successfully accomplished abstinence period” not an experience of the past you use to judge someone on a potential future? How is avoiding non-virgins not a strategy to weed off women with certain characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:52 PM
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Yes I’m 1000% on your side. I’m saying the women withholding sex would be against you categorically denying someone because of their past. It hypocritical, they want their cake and to eat it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/25 03:48 PM
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Tell that to a feminist and see what happens 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:18 PM
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Then women should start believing what we say we want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:03 PM
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As someone feminism would consider extreme I disagree. It isn’t so much that differentiating opinion lead me to find acceptance in “extremism”, but that I categorically witnessed feminism to be a failure. I believed in feminism until reality showed me to not have acceptance for its beliefs, not the other way around. Feminism is a broken system, whether it prioritises men’s issues or not. Without gender essentialism, there can be no understanding between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 09:01 PM
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The behaviour change that comes with racking up bodies after a breakup is what men sense
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 01:48 AM
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I disagree, only with a baseline impression of the righteousness in all humans can you be attracted to a girl with ncount of 100. That or being a cuck. If your general stance is to be skeptic of human nature, you could never be with a girl who gives herself to anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 07:13 PM
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Female logic: “if the burden is justified, then it can’t be a burden.”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/25 06:47 PM
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Feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:38 PM
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I didn’t men will benefit, I said women won’t
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:37 PM
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I didn’t say human nature is fundamentally evil. I said evil is a fundamental part of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:25 PM
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True but my penis says otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:22 PM
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I didn’t say I was nihilist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:17 PM
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Fake news
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:17 PM
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Fake news
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:16 PM
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You think they’re getting better now? Doubt it. They knew what they were getting in from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 04:09 PM
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Yea I got that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:56 PM
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I originally understood you as the guys that think this way happen to usually be unattractive to you regardless if they thought this way. A little ambiguity in how you communicate…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:45 PM
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Yes I know for women truth is an insult and lies are empowerment
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:41 PM
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So we should just be blind gotchu
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:29 PM
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So your argument switched from rp isn’t trad to…. What?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:28 PM
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Because women are basically never better off It isn’t actually logical to want to live. Many of the most stoic logical minds are nihilists through and through. I’d arguing having nothing but logic leads to the inevitable conclusion that life is pointless and full of suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:23 PM
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Like I said how can you measure intimacy dynamics except through experiencing them. By your methodology we should just be robots working on binary code. Which we’re not. So you’re basically confessing your either blind or in denial.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:08 PM
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So you actually like the guys until they hold this standard. I see. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:06 PM
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See this is just disingenuous communication. Through a lot of verbal jingo out there and then pick a narrative that make you come out on top. If she first says most important in life then obviously whole life a couple sentences later refers to that through context. That is how communication works, through context.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:04 PM
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You don’t believe in altruism? And the only reason your status takes a hit is because everyone knows men don’t respect the sluts they fuck. Again, tribalism. They would never treat there mothers or sisters this way. So what then when you pass on a girl you actually find nice but she got trauma and a treatable std? Should she die alone? Should she become someone else’s problem? Where’s the love? Sounds pretty cynical, pretty tribalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:58 PM
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Apart from cheating(which arguably traditionally HAS always been more lenient toward men) what are those? And yes, since everything else in society is accounted for apart from what men want. What needs to be fixed needs to be adressed, that’s where RP comes in. I really wish all blue collar men would just not show up to work for a full week. Then hear what you feminists have to say about men only caring for themselves…. It’s shameful it really is.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:53 PM
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You literally just said you got rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:48 PM
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Anecdotal. I wouldn’t really know how statistical data should and could measure intimacy dynamics anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:47 PM
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This is a very conceited take. This sounds like you never got over your ex girlfriend. You’re still out for revenge. You’re (general you’re) never that important to the point where you’re *the best thing about someone’s life. * That’s insane. If they do happen to go downhill, it’s likely got nothing to do with you. A lot of things can go into that. Men are great additions to a life, not a whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:42 PM
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This is a very conceited take. This sounds like you never got over your ex girlfriend. You’re still out for revenge. You’re (general you’re) never that important to the point where you’re the best thing about someone’s life. That’s insane. If they do happen to go downhill, it’s likely got nothing to do with you. A lot of things can go into that. Men are great additions to a life, not a whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:40 PM
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Ok then the market doesn’t matter. Doesn’t mean it’s non-existent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:39 PM
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Men and women aren’t the same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:38 PM
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Men don’t want hoes shocker 😱
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:36 PM
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So it’s still most men. Thanks for the tedtalk
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:35 PM
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See now you’re perfectly strawmanning to win the argument. How did “ best thing about someone’s life” turn into “one thing” ??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:34 PM
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Not the relationship itself, but the response to the tragedy of it ending plays out very differently in men and women, specially young ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:32 PM
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Because you probably offering exactly what you describe to most men you get close to. So why should they be honest and nuke their chances of getting action?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:30 PM
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Most people on this sub completely agree with the latter comparison. You hear it ALL the time. It’s the reason rp exists. So I’m surprised and not really sure what you‘re trying to resist
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:28 PM
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Why shouldn’t the potential mother/father of your future children be the best thing in your life? I’d argue that’s very sad and you should probably neuter yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:26 PM
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Most
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:23 PM
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The coming of man can kill you true.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:23 PM
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I guess not to you. But it is still the majority. So her market value objectively goes down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:21 PM
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Wanting low ncount/virgin is trad. Wanting Sahm is trad. Wanting gender roles is trad. Rp talks extensively about all of these
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:20 PM
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Men with self respect don’t like it for ltrs. Lowering your value.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:18 PM
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I didn’t say that. I said it makes a woman less attractive as relationship material.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:17 PM
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Yes exactly, women are doomed, men have great potential. Just as in dating in general average men are doomed, and many women can hook up with Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:16 PM
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Those are the best one’s 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:14 PM
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I don’t wish this upon anyone in my personal life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:14 PM
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homo sapien female’s relationship attractiveness sharply deteriorating after fall out with longterm mate
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:12 PM
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Feminism started it. I’m just balancing it out to return to a more even status quo
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:07 PM
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Hoe phase is improving life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:06 PM
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I know how you view men I want to know about your father
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:05 PM
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Describe better. Also don’t forget the hoe phase to “ regain self esteem” in between
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:04 PM
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How does that make the comparison illogical?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:03 PM
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Nuclear family and loyal friends. Conservative tradlife ya know
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 02:00 PM
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Because your relationship to your father determines how you view men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:59 PM
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True, heartbreak can kill a man. But if he manages to endures, he will come out wiser and stronger than ever before
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:57 PM
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Do you love your father?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:54 PM
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I agree. Check my name. But it doesn’t change the fact bluepillers more or less think this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 01:53 PM
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Yes I agree. And even absent any logic or in the face of complete contradiction, they believe their way is the right way, the only way. The religion everyone should convert to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 11:04 AM
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I thought so too but I don’t really see it that way anymore. For me tribalism is ultimately linked to a sense of fundamental hostility, or atleast separatism. Whereas I think bp just see their adversaries as misbehaving and/or mislead/suffering from the changeable condition of evil. They aren’t satisfied and don’t see their job done until they get everyone back on their side. Similar to how parents may ground their children for weeks in a mess up. But ultimately they’re right and you should stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 10:57 AM
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Your analysis is too surface level. The tribalism is not about competing for women. The tribalism sets the desire for the kind of women you want in the first place, completely irrespective of competition. It’s about your psychological shadow.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:11 AM
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Why do you believe all women though? Because you believe all humans are inherently good unless proven otherwise. What does conservatism entail? An inherent xenophobic mistrust of the unknown and belief in prioritising and protecting your community, specially your kin. Ie tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:36 AM
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Yes and if the aim of nutrition is to enter ketosis, no matter what or how much/little you learn it will be a ketogenic diet. Just as all rp intentions/goals are essentially rooted in tribalism. Us against/over them. Even if not explicitly expressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:33 AM
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If I’m right and tribalism is the psychological foundation for rp. Then rp would be the result of tribalism, ergo rp is tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:29 AM
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It’s not about strict definitions. It’s about how we perceive one another. Bpers default perception of other humans is that akin to belonging to their tribe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:26 AM
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Because women are inherently hypergamous. Whereas the stigma modern women receive is inherently (or atleast massively amplified by) a subconscious threat of tribalism. You hate/are disgusted by that she belongs/belonged to people you don’t consider kin/ don’t consider atleast as worthy as yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:24 AM
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I don’t think it is as much men not valuing the happiness/goals of unrelated (or related) women as much as it is them just being completely foreign to the desires of unrelated men. For instance, if I knew all men my wife had been with and all of the rest of the society couldn’t be better people, it would sting much less if at all if I knew she had an extensive past and was now focused on being a prolific career women. I would view all these desires and interactions as inherently good/positive. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:19 AM
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Rp is a observation of reality, not a political movement
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 11:51 PM
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If I’m right and tribalism is the psychological foundation for rp. Then rp would be the result of tribalism, ergo rp is tribalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:28 PM
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If you’re trying to debate who’s right the psychological foundation is arguably all that is relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 09:12 PM
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What part of “psychology behind” is hard to comprehend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:54 PM
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Yes and women can stick hedgehogs in their pussy if they want to. But they don’t, that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:44 PM
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Feminism is an outlook on the world just as rp is an outlook on the world. Feminisms foundation lies in women gaining power as a whole in society. And I’m trying to explain rp foundation lies in you prioritising your kin. I’m speaking of the broader picture. The psychology behind rp.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:41 PM
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You don’t understand anything from the post. The tribe isn’t rp the tribe is you mr family and friends. Just as the tribe isn’t bp the tribe is society and humanity
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:34 PM
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Even if what you say is true. That still means women don’t sexualise men like men sexualise women. Unless you want to claim women can’t be evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:32 PM
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What about yourself do you consider rp?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:30 PM
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Then why don’t you ignore a woman’s past? Why don’t you grant the other men she was with their experiences with her? After all if you love them, why is your jealousy paramount to their happiness? Why not help a woman overcome her trauma and mistakes if you love her aswell?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:03 PM
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Everything is an individual philosophy by definition. It has to do with your outlook on the world. Redpillers view their friends and family as their tribe, bluepillers all of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:59 PM
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This is a redpill debate sub. If you’re a woman posing as a man that’s a HUGE deal
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:21 PM
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I think you’re a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:17 PM
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Yes I know I disagree, even emotionally RP man fairs better. Being soft doesn’t mean more emotional love. You can be soft and still very manipulating, gaslighting and emotionally distant when it counts. I see absolutely no benefit to BP. But I’ll admit RP can be brutes. Just the potential to do everything right is FAR higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:12 PM
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Actors get scripts, read them, then turn down or accept movies. That is how it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:07 PM
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I disagree, I think only RP is love. BP is submitting to a woman, and a woman’s love is fake. It’s just ego, it “how do you make me feel?”
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:59 PM
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What? If will turned it down and keanuthen stepped up how do you assume the script writer intended a black man and a white man??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:52 PM
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Will smith turned down the role
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:42 PM
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Will smith was originally cast for the role so this refutes your point. (Who’s the racist now?)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:36 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:35 PM
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Read it again. BP is bluepill
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:07 PM
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If there is rp there has to be bp. Just as light can only exist with darkness. Have you even watched the matrix? Amazing movie
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:05 PM
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I mean yes there are many truths recognised through redpill but fundamentally, you can very well still be bp through and through even if you see the scarcity in women and their standards. Your Omnipresent post-modernist morality will keep you in this position and make you enthusiastically accept your suffering .
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:04 PM
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Women’s dreams or desires are predominantly extremely bipolar. Either they are for their social group and those they bond with or ruthlessly against their enemies. Not really much in between. This is where the aspect of tribe consideration comes into to play. Who do you consider to belong to it? Your family and immediate friends, or general society and humanity as as whole. As Jordan Peterson pointed out well, sjw feminist women are most often those who have trouble at home, to divert from the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:40 PM
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This is ChatGPT
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:47 AM
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Age verified documentation proves nothing. We have the oldest people ever in the last couple hundred years. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240517-the-human-brain-has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why All the negative i mentioned completely outweighs any progress. Progress are perks on humanity, what I mentioned would destroy humanity within itself. It would be like saying light bulbs outweigh the fact your house might burn down. Everything else you said can pretty much be summed up…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:22 PM
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Age verified documentation proves nothing. We have the oldest people ever if the last couple hundred years. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240517-the-human-brain-has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why All the negative i mentioned completely outweighs any progress. Progress are perks on humanity, what I mentioned would destroy humanity within itself. It would be like saying light bulbs outweigh the fact your house might burn down. Everything else you said can pretty much be summed up…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:22 PM
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Age verified documentation proves nothing. We have the oldest people ever if the last couple hundred years. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20240517-the-human-brain-has-been-shrinking-and-no-one-quite-knows-why All the negative i mentioned completely outweighs any progress. Progress are perks on humanity, what I mentioned would destroy humanity within itself. It would be like saying light bulbs outweigh the fact your house might burn down. Everything else you said can pretty much be summed up…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:21 PM
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You can’t be an unreviewed chad that’s an oxymoron. Being virgin by choice doesn’t necessarily mean you are unreviewed. That’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 12:00 PM
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We do listen. Better than you’d like. Here, would you date an unreviewed product?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 10:20 AM
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That’s just your gaslighting projections. All he said was a man needs to be well reviewed which is still 1000% true. And even at the extremes we all no you could only get horny for a man who bags three girls a night rather than a 40yo virgin who’s never gotten a lick in. So it still holds true.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 09:42 AM
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Of course not she’s gaslighting to make up for her own shortcomings
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:14 AM
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Have you seen any mental retard who gets 🐱. Because I know with out a doubt guys would still line up for a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:06 AM
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Makes sense, like I said, your a transman
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:04 AM
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Again sauce? And I said 18 is completely arbitrary, do with that what you will.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:02 AM
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But ofc, humanity and society benefit from civilization as it allows for efficient and collective progress. Again this is completely subjective We as a species require civilization to remain the top animals on earth. Its our biggest advantage. As it’s going now civilisation is destroying the world for everyone, not just animals. Global warming, nuclear war, AI are all products of civilisation. Not to mention that humans have never been unhealthier and scientists are actually observing we are dev…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 07:58 AM
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All things a loyal family can provide You said it yourself, crying in a Mercedes
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:57 PM
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That women (minus royals) weren’t considered for positions of authority is a pretty consistent standard I think. 18 is completely arbitrary. Put it this way, if aoc was 21 and I was caught with a 19yo old you call me a disgusting pedo rapist.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:45 PM
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What else necessitates having your own money? My theorem is general, not individual. What point in agency without fulfilment? oxycontin?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:18 PM
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Then the argument that our purpose is to evolve foward is just as valid as the argument that we should do everything we can to escape civilisation. They are both completely subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:11 PM
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I’m talking of consistents, standards that have been there since the dawn of humanity (or civilisation) and we have only witnessed change with modern feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:06 PM
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Raising your own children.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:57 PM
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But if these standards always existed, don’t you think it was for a reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 08:48 PM
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Yes the difference is: Since a woman bares your children. She’s also a child you raise your children with. No other child would sign up to that. Men want to build families, not raise children
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:16 PM
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My whole argument is based more on what is the initial motivation and mentality behind any action or activity. Which is why I find the whole trans analogy so fitting. Women’s self identity has done a 180. Even though I’m the most anti gender theory person you’ll meet. It’s not so much that the action of going to an office and hitting a keyboard, but the intention behind it is completely novel to womanhood. The idea to focus on politics and economics rather than your own babies, seek independence…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 05:10 PM
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Still, civilisation isn’t objectively the purpose of people
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:55 PM
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Why is job variety your defining metric of oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:50 PM
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Why is what jobs you can take your defining metric of oppression?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:49 PM
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Sauce
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:16 PM
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If you live at home your not in shitty neighbourhoods or homeless, unless you father failed you for 18 years, but that’s a different story. And by then you probably know your way around the block. In a traditional society, people would find different ways to meet eachother. It’s not reasonable to screw up your chance a true fulfilment for money
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 03:59 PM
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Or you just live at home until you find your husband. “Independence” is another one of those masculine traits. This entire idea of being an individual amongst other individuals in society is a masculine trait. Society should be made up of families, not individuals. And feminine priority is family. Modern women project their family instinct onto society which is why you see so many women in the woke sjw movement. We are atomised BECAUSE we have blown “blown” family completely out of proportion.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 02:18 PM
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I disagree not how men sexualise women. A literally clinically retarded supermodel would get 0 🐱get to know him closer, where as an average chick whose mentally challenged could still be Bonnie blue. There still needs to be some form of male initiation for female sexual desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 01:20 PM
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You’re missing the point, I’m lamenting the cost of being able to sit in said Mercedes. If women could snap their fingers and earn a million dollars arguably, you’d be completely right. I’m saying women are destroying their femininity to sit in a Mercedes. There are things infinitely more valuable than money you can easily be deceived to sacrifice chasing money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:51 PM
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Quality of life is subjective. And many of the most miserable people are absolutely filthy rich
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:34 PM
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Civilisation doesn’t mean that. It means developed. But it doesn’t mean all encompassing endless development.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:25 PM
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The fact that you believe this is a serious debate response is objectively hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:20 PM
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Common sense is to do what your biology intended. Check post edit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:18 PM
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Also there seems to be pushback: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/comment?id=10.1371/annotation/6ef588e7-42bb-48ea-9967-a70c3c7ded07
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 12:12 PM
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The fact that this article is written by 5 (presumably feminist) women has my spider senses tingling. Feminists are notorious for extreme cherrypicking to get across any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:57 AM
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Wanting equal respect and rights does not make a woman a man. It makes her right. In my SUBJECTIVE opinion. This is a vast overgeneralisation. And I’m almost certain the vast majority of men AND women throughout the story of mankind would agree. Actually I’m not even certain you agree. For example democracy. Women get the vote. But what about conscription to defend the vote? Seems like men aren’t getting their rights with women dodging the draft. Would you want to go to ww2 to justify your vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:50 AM
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Yes. That is the entire point of my post. To challenge the moral narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:43 AM
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Where have I not been open to new information? And one pretty well documented fact is that in tribal warfare all men of a tribes were killed while the women were taken as wives. We see this recently in the indigenous Māori people before colonialism. That means as a man, the absolute best outcome and example of proficiency is to sleep with enemy women. Whereas as a women the absolute worst outcome and example of ultimate failure is to sleep with foreign men. Considering this, slutshaming WOULD be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:41 AM
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Yes that was the exception, no where near the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:26 AM
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If that’s your argument, you sound no different then the men who get gfs just for sex, literally nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:25 AM
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Very interesting point, but I first understood it while reading as the contrary to be claimed as in genes recognise men go through far harsher natural selection and thus “prime” men to the max while doing minimum effort in women apart from reproductive capabilities and safety mechanism, one being overwhelming emotionality and attention seeking, like a child. In other words genes a smart enough to recognise which attributes should be passed on to which gender and don’t just share them out equally…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:24 PM
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You said it yourself equal rights does not mean you’re equal. When I speak of equality I don’t mean rights. I would say rights if i meant rights. I think this is another tactic of the feminist movement to obscure equality with rights, so that when you’re against one your automatically against the other. Not saying this is you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:02 PM
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So women would go to work just as men? And also carry authority at work? Sauce?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:57 PM
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If people don’t have an objective purpose how can you state they are meant to “evolve forward”? How are cavemen egalitarian in structure?? This will be good
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:55 PM
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So it mentions nuns , helping hands in production and medicine and possibly filling in where they can in times of war correct? Also women using the power of their family name. It’s still extremely vague and with no actual proportions above women routinely being the helping hand, doesnt say much about gender roles exceeding that at all. Like I said exceptions prove the rule. If Muslims documented 10 women picking up arms because they knew they’d end as sex slaves anyway that doesn’t mean women we…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:49 PM
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We have some evidence, but I think they’ve also found some female remains as well, and some tribes have women participating in the hunt. I’m looking for general trends not exceptions. But I would be genuinely curious how wide spread including women in the practice of hunting dangerous beasts was. 10%? 0,0001%? Or were they just hunting local bunnies which essentially a child could do. Plus, men going to the war doesn’t mean they weren’t caring for kids. I literally said that The way we live toda…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:26 PM
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lol good one. I guess that would be what you could consider the one difference. But I also guarantee it would probably be nothing like the sex you’re having now. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is for you to decide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:20 PM
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I said this is an example not this is the foundation of my argument. Now you’re just gaslighting. Increasing the examples. Again, not an argument, over or under generalising is completely subjective and thus meaningless if you do it aswell. (I actually believe you overgeneralise since you generalise humans as a whole whereas I specify into gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:17 PM
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Why does it make her right? That is a completely subjective viewpoint. Biology however is objective. And biology has no moral obligation whatsoever to align with what you define as right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:13 PM
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Well im sorry I’m no historian but that ALL historical anecdotes I’ve come across in my life align with gender essentialism and traditionalism pre modern feminism. I think I should still be able to share my hypothesis. You want a bullet proof essay go to a university professor who’s paid to research this. But come to think of it you’ll never find such since who these days would fund an investigation even just open to the fact women could be the inferior sex, let alone seeking it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:09 PM
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You made ppd completely misunderstand my argument and then delete it🤦‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:02 PM
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I disagree. Feminism was never about equal rights. It was about perceiving men and women as equal. And thus equity must be achieved to prove this claim. And the feminists have won, virtually everyone in the west approaches unknown men or women with the same “blank slate” openness. This is not how women and men were seen historically or even currently in other unwestinized cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:57 PM
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Affection, care, loyalty, peace. Basically everything you’d wish for a perfect childhood
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:40 PM
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To see women and men as equal is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:38 PM
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Then we are all slaves. And btw shouldn’t every woman aspire to be a pretty idiot? Because your biology means you fundamentally intellectually near-sighted
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:32 PM
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But not treating you inferior wouldn’t be traditional then would it!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:29 PM
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Jesus was god. I win
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:28 PM
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As autistic as modern men have become I could actually believe that women fair well in that field in comparison 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:13 PM
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You play men, but do it badly. Just as transgender women wearing tight dresses with thick calves and a full beard.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:11 PM
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You misunderstood me I don’t believe in gender theory at all. I was merely using it as a tool to hold a mirror to all the delusional leftists. But we do have a different view on how extreme and deeply intrenched feminism is in every fibre of modern society. Virtually everyone you meet in the west is a feminist, since they view a random woman as capable, adjusted and intergrous as a random man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:08 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:56 PM
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Exactly, I don’t like modern women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:55 PM
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The attraction has to be mutual. But yes I have FAR more options than when I saw women as equals if that’s what you’re wondering
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:44 PM
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Women love an ugly mind, it symbolises resilience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:31 PM
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Classic modern female fallacy of men sexually wanting you (even through the constraints of monogamy) meaning they actually desire you for who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:21 PM
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Speaking truth isn’t hate. No women could take a man seriously who cries and whines like women do. In a sense, men are FAR more accepting of women behaving masculine than women are of men behaving feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:01 PM
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Speaking truth isn’t hate. No women could take a man seriously who cries and whines like women do. In a sense, men are FAR more accepting of women behaving masculine than women are of men behaving feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:01 PM
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Give evidence for your accusations. And everyone generalises. We wouldn’t be able to comprehend human nature without generalising.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:57 AM
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No I’m referring to women wanting to be completely equal to men in all areas of life. Slutshaming and avoiding childcare are also massive ones. But also so called “independence”, expectations that the wall is a misogynist myth, equal say in relationships etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:56 AM
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I think it’s kinda a stretch to say they represent submissive, demur, pleasing traditional women. The whole idea of being voluntarily NEET is very rebellious within itself. Complete contrast to the role of a homemaker, the glue that holds a community together.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:50 AM
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Both. And yes that is part of the absurdity behind gender theory. Why label your lifestyle or feelings at all? Just call yourself a he if you have a penis and she if you don’t. Yet the truth behind gender theory is that we all kind of do poses an image of male behaviour and female behaviour. Modern women do their absolute best to completely obscure that image, by losing all that essentially differentiated them as women, then wondering why all the men are running for the hills.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:45 AM
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No women under authority of husband/father are on the level of nazism stigma wise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 11:39 AM
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That’s like saying no one’s forcing you not to be a Nazi
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 09:12 AM
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Exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:51 AM
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“That's a pretty poor understanding of history.” Is also a truth claim
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:50 AM
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Good point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 08:24 AM
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For men it’s calculated not emotional. They asses disrespect that needs to be challenged. For women it’s just “I’m mad you don’t like me”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:22 AM
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But you haven’t provided any evidence contrary
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:19 AM
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This is the perfect example of why women shouldn’t be in positions of authority. They literally don’t know why they believe what they believe
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 07:04 AM
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So people owe you hiring? Or owe you buying your produce?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:55 AM
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My point was women have accepted everything that comes with the male gender identity, except the label. If men accepted everything of the identity of a traditional, subordinate housewife and daughter just without any title change I would say the same thing. They carry a completely different gender identity identical to that of men, yet keep the same name, women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:54 AM
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Families aren’t the only ones that influence young children
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:48 AM
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Why do you consider a job a human right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:47 AM
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The article on the biggest newspaper in the world literally reads “men-please come back”. And you’re still trying to gaslight me women don’t care for what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:42 AM
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The article on the biggest newspaper in the world literally reads “men-please come back”. And you’re still trying to gaslight me women don’t care for what men want
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:42 AM
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Because some values have nothing to do with gender roles. Like women literally can’t take criticism or hold accountability, they blow up. If anything female gender roles should train them to be more held back and accepting of disavowment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:37 AM
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They never found out it matters to them because the stigma was spoon fed to them as a baby. Many inherent beliefs we all share and see as basically unquestionable and inherently humane are just products of our time. Like for example democracy, human rights or even slavery
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:33 AM
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Because before feminism, gender essentialism was as evident as the sky is blue
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:28 AM
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I guess because before the Industrial Revolution it wasn’t just politically impossible to compete in any meaningful way with men but literally physically impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:24 AM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:06 AM
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We are ment to do what fulfills human beings. In no way is 100 years of feminism congruent with any evolutionary change. We are literally still cavemen
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:05 AM
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The woman’s a slave who’s betraying all women in their feminist fight and the guys a controlling misogynist. They are morally rotten people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:03 AM
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You can trace many events like war, who fought, who hunted from skeletal remains. That was my point. And saying women’s primary task was caring for children and home doesn’t strictly contradict ever leaving home. Men’s primary responsibility in hunting and protection can still mean they spend lots of time with children, specially if they’re very successful. And societies for most of history were extremely small. So caring for the tribe/family could be synonymous. Nothing compared to giving your …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 06:00 AM
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Because it comes down to innate values and emotions. Those can be imitated but not faked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:51 AM
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I guess law is a step above stigma. But is that really better if the stigma is precisely against your purpose in life as with trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:48 AM
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I think I answered somewhere else that yes, it is also because they are women. Should a child or adult go to work and shape society? Similarly should a woman or man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:45 AM
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No man wakes up in the morning and says “ it a nice day to beat the wifey”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:40 AM
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Now we’re getting into the whole carnivore veganism debate lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:36 AM
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If sticking to your role is oppression, then everyones oppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:33 AM
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Farming can be considered kind of a home keeping activity in primitive societies
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 05:31 AM
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Until marriage this was tradition. But women also got married young. So the age they start having sex probably isn’t very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:21 AM
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But do they? Because most modern women deem submission to male authority as untouchable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:19 AM
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Exceptions prove the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:17 AM
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Mass burials of all tribes men from wars, cave paintings, hunting injuries and buried equipment are evidence I can think of off the top of my head
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:25 AM
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But gender identities are!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:21 AM
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Where?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:15 AM
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So no career aspirations for all of history? Not very feminine then ey
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:14 AM
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99% of women are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:11 AM
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Female assertiveness is nothing compared to a man’s. Man’s care is nothing like how women care. Words are just shells for context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:09 AM
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And desires dictate actions. These desires modern women have are actually masculine. Hence why they only differentiate to trans desires in label. Trans people recognise their desires aren’t in congruence with their biological sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:07 AM
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Men love trads. Nobody hates more on trad life than feminist women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:04 AM
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Which is why you could marry virgins back in the day
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:01 AM
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Beats outrunning feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:00 AM
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What careers did women pursue pre feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:56 AM
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Elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:55 AM
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Can the construct of gender identity not be made of actions and desires ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:55 AM
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That women didn’t want the vote is one
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:51 AM
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Yes career, ambition, wanting to shape society is masculine. It’s not something traditionally feminine and thus not something men are attracted to if they were unbiased. It’s an identity that was exclusively male for all history.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:50 AM
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Yet so is the very real stigmatisation of everything that women used to embody
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:44 AM
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No wonder you despise tradition so much, you literally see everything through a judiciary/societal lens. For me my primary values lie with and from family and close friends, not some grand societal output.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:40 AM
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You make a fair point as to that we’re all removed from natural human order way before feminism. But yes I would like to return to complete natural tribe society. And yes I presume theirs evidence suggests women always primarily tended to the kids/home and men targeted getting the bounty/ fighting wars etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:31 AM
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Is switching gender identity not trans?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:19 AM
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No I just pulled it out my arse that before feminism we had gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:18 AM
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Because not everything about human interaction is force. That would be like saying all sex was rape. Also you know… because they are women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:16 AM
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No it’s not they are different identities, career aspirations and sleeping around are now shared identities
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:13 AM
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Well if you think kids weren’t humans before law said so than I guess we’ll never find common ground 👋
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:09 AM
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You can’t see facts differently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:08 AM
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Women wanted to be mothers so why would a woman want a Sahm father?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:06 AM
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Your mistaking public title for vareity and prosperity. I see family as FAR more immersive and eventful than any ambition or amount of jobs period
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:02 AM
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Are children not human?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:58 AM
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Saying men wore makeup isn’t exactly proof of feminine ideals
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:56 AM
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She had power in the household
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:55 AM
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War happened rarely? I’m not sure we’re following the same history And opportunity is purely subjective. Like I said men missed out on all the opportunities of home life
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:54 AM
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I have virtually all of human history to back my answer
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:51 AM
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Men never had fashion equivalent to that of women now
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:50 AM
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Obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:48 AM
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She had power under the man’s authority. Just as his power under authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:48 AM
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Men were the default for all of time gender identity wise. And both genders were expected to fulfill certain roles based on their biological gender
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:46 AM
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That’s your subjective view. I just believe both had their roles and were ostracised for stepping out of their roles. Infact if we include war I think men were far more oppressed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:44 AM
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So how has femininity and masculinity changed before the 20th century?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:41 AM
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So no argument just blank statements?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:38 AM
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Enlighten me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:37 AM
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The men weren’t at mercy of less people they were subject to labour. And the women had power over children, although I’m not sure what the argument is here. Making you equal to men doesn’t give you more power over anyone. And that you would want it - power also means responsibility and cynicism is a very pessimistic motivation imo
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:36 AM
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Women can get traditional feminine jobs that’s not the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:30 AM
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So if both were equally oppressed why are women taking over men’s roles but men aren’t taking over women’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:26 AM
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Exactly. Your a man
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:25 AM
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That’s like me saying Jesus was god incarnation. So being god is a male gender norm
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:24 AM
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Career aspirations is definitely originally masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:22 AM
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It’s a subjective answer I’ve already answered. Men don’t like masculine women. 300000 years of existence is career focus masculine domain
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:21 AM
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To oppress women in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:20 AM
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They were submissive to their husband/father who was submissive to society. They had as much say as he allowed, just as he had as much say as he was granted.EVERYONE is always at the mercy of power in this world
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:18 AM
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Men couldn’t choose to be at home
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:15 AM
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Because that’s the only choice that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:13 AM
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If you’re starving stale bread is delicious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:12 AM
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Those jobs are fine. The overall masculine embodiment in all areas of life is the crux. Making baskets is not comparable to being a marketing manager or police officer.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:10 AM
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How is labour better than staying at home with your children?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:06 AM
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That too. That’s what I meant by men playing along and treating women like men, then wondering why relationships don’t work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:03 AM
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Great! But don’t call it misogyny then when men can’t stand your guts
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:01 AM
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So you think giving birth is the same as being a mother?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:00 AM
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Prove me wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:58 AM
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No there are only men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:57 AM
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They had roles just as men did. How were the men then not also oppressed ?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:57 AM
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That modern women think feminism is liberation while it’s just indoctrination. Think about it? Who in the right mind man OR women would choose to go labour instead of spend all their time with their loved ones?? How are shifts better than your own baby???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:54 AM
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Because it will make a difference to the women of society if all men tried to be as bitchy as possible all of a sudden.although I’d admit, due to women’s hypergamous nature and the biology of reproduction the consequences wouldn’t be as immense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:52 AM
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Your not seriously going to bring Royal heirs into this as an example of general gender identity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:49 AM
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“Reality is those in power choose the life of others and people just go along with what those in power say” Hey that’s my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:47 AM
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Why shouldn’t men wear dresses and high heels and do an hour of makeup a day and cry every second day
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:44 AM
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300,000 years of human existence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:43 AM
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Because that wouldn’t be gay enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:42 AM
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Did you even understand my analogy to the queer movement?? What “normal” people want is entirely driven by what is and isn’t stigmatised. So broader choice is just an illusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:41 AM
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Yes they did. It gave them special status. Men honoured and protected women for who they were, now your just other men so no wonder mgtow and ignore you when you hit the wall with 100 n count.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:39 AM
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I disagree. Raising children was always exclusively feminine. Leading societies was always exclusively masculine etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:36 AM
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Just as I don’t see an issue with women wearing a dress.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:34 AM
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Exceptions prove the rule. And again if we’re talking of the idea of gender identity as a social construct, it was the norm for 300,000+ years. This isn’t an opinion it’s a fact. Women transitioned in the last 100 years just keeping the title woman and now wondering why men all of a sudden don’t want high n-count bossbabes like themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:33 AM
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Also men didn’t “take” anything. This is how it’s been since the beginning of time. And until feminism, the majority of women were in favour of this dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:28 AM
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Money is a myth. If women didn’t inflate the job market then men would earn more money which traditionally is spent on/ spent by their wives anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:26 AM
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Yet before feminism “the default” was exclusively male throughout all of mankind. If you broadened your horizon you would see that your standpoint, is Infact, the insanely radical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:20 AM
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Not what I was aiming for but I’ll take the compliment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:17 AM
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Modern women are transgender without the label
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:14 AM
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Before feminism not a single woman ever dreamed of acting this way. So it’s 100 years vs 300,000 of human existence. Say what you will but modern women are definitely not within their gender norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:13 AM
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So what if no one wants to work a just camp in a forest hunting and getting high?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:09 AM
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I agree. My point was how men view themselves wearing a dress is how modern women view their careers. It’s part of their core self image while actually being a masculine role.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 12:07 AM
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Her only standard is 6’2 good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 09:45 PM
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*marriage material in a woman’s eyes Anything that’s makes him hookup material for starters. The same cannot be said for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 06:55 PM
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If comparable to human forms of hierarchy you aren’t a worse person or shameful compared to your boss at work for example or the president of your country. You have your role rather than being criticised or degraded.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:50 PM
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No doubt 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:42 PM
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That’s the point he’s trying to make, women do get with average men. But when most women say they like geeks, it really just means they like the attractive 10% and being a geek is at most a perk. Yet women lie that it is the geekiness that they were looking for, when they’ll literally take any 6’2 good looking guy who can string a sentence together. It’s gaslighting to cover up for hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:39 PM
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Hierarchy isn’t judgment
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:53 PM
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Yes and I responded to emphasise humans emotional failings toward eachother. The age old dispute, what really drives consciousness, reason or innate desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:03 PM
1

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:37 PM
2

That’s just cynicism not judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:33 PM
2

Animals don’t put anyone down. That is exclusively human behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 02:17 PM
4

Just as shaming women for being promiscuous and setting the standard of chaste values is controlling/manipulating. So is shamming individuals for seeking the “fairytale of love” and setting the standard that ONLY we can be “the primary source of what makes us whole”. Any claim otherwise is hypocritical But this seems to be the primary problem with modern liberalism, as in “nobodies views in what ought to are justified except our ones”.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 01:51 PM
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I’m getting at the fact that only fuck is only fuck BECAUSE only fuck only wants to fuck. Whereas true material refers to inherent qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:31 PM
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I’d say either he leaves the LTR, or he cheats and she leaves him. But I find it highly unlikely that a man who successfully had hundreds of different hookups marries a woman who divorces him because she’s bored while he’s still loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:30 PM
4

So who is the superior man if the end motive for any relationship with a woman is smashing?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:11 PM
5

Noticed how you avoided saying “no one wants to marry” and instead labeled “not marriage material”. Leaving wide open the possibility that this is completely down to HIS preference
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:06 PM
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So a manwhore is basically just LTR material that doesn’t want to be in a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 12:03 PM
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It has everything to do with a ”low tier woman”. If less men want you than the average woman, you are low tier. Wether that be for looks, age, n count etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:46 AM
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I disagree, women understand analogies very well and probably understood you very well before the analogy. They are just hyper solipsistic and driven by emotions and can’t accept the fact you are proving them wrong. A woman will give up all morals before she admits she’s wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:44 AM
-2

Supply and demand is what defines value. And yes. These are objective metrics.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/25 07:37 AM
1

Very mature response
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 09:26 AM
0

Most men are attracted to 15 yo whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:52 AM
-2

How can he be a hypocrite if he’s not a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:37 PM
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Men want loyalty. Loyalty requires a certain level of attention, sometimes more sometimes less. But women need attention. Constantly. Attention absent of loyalty. Infact women need attention and affection so bad that is what they understand TO BE loyalty. Men and women have COMPLETELY different understanding of loyalty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:08 PM
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Attention
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:03 PM
2

You literally said it’s because you don’t want to fuck your sibling. Now who you want to fuck also isn’t biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 10:00 PM
1

“A woman can do anything a man can do!” Was always the motto. CEO, president, why not? If women were emotionally different I.e. had fundamentally different needs and desires this would not be the case. Let’s even grant that hypocritically women’s fundamental differences make them better leaders than men. There would still be no way to claim this on a general societal scale though since women have never demonstrated their prowes in those positions on a societal scale. The only way it would make a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:59 PM
1

Could you answer my question? And that is pretty much the result of feminism though. Virtually everyone you meet in the west these days is a feminist. They view every man or woman they meet as virtually equally capable and proficient, minus the physical domain.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:45 PM
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Exactly. Biological differences. And just as sibling and relationship love is different. So is woman and man love.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:39 PM
1

The entire idea behind the feminist movement is to see, not treat, men and women as completely equal. Otherwise what argument could there ever be to take women out the kitchen into the workforce?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:38 PM
2

But that is actually a good example why are sibling love and relationship love different?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:35 PM
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Yes that’s what nuanced means
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:26 PM
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Yes feminists literally argue all difference are socialised. Your last paragraph is the perfect example. Let me ask you this, do you think a child expects or desires the same love from his parent as the parent expects from the child? Exactly. Biological differences matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:24 PM
1

I just did. I won’t you to give me an example of how my logic is fallible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:20 PM
2

Im not doing your research for you. If you don’t even have an idea of RP why are you posting this if all questions pretending you are somewhat experienced with rp viewpoints. But it anyway it has to be this way by logical definition. If the sexes are fundamentally different. That means they have fundamentally different needs and desires does it not? It would be impossible to satisfy different desires equally with the same (equal) treatment. If it were possible, then they wouldn’t be different de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:18 PM
1

What do you mean just to justify their ideals?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:09 PM
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Are people who disagree with you not aloud nuanced beliefs?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:06 PM
1

That is literally the whole redpill. Go anywhere, watch anything, and you’ll have your answer. Now assuming this is true (which a redpiller would because duh). How in anyway would ignoring the truth be infavour of feminists strife for gender equality, when equal treatment can only mean one gender getting there needs met or no one getting there needs net at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 09:01 PM
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So you’d be fine with a redpiller who admits women and men are fundamentally different, but seeks to ignore these differences for gender egalitarianism? Wouldn’t that just mean one gender won’t get their needs met? Leading to a fundamentally uneven status quo contradicting feminisms core value of equal value in opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:49 PM
1

This is the most bluepilled shit Ive ever heard
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 08:33 PM
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Wouldn’t that be an improvement on subjecting everyone to taxes regardless of belief? And what does it matter if you supposedly have complete liberty in your beliefs when your forced to finance other people’s doctrines?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 02:22 PM
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We have that now, public school, taxes etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 10:42 AM
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What part of it sounds like hell to you apart from 0 pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/25 01:10 AM
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Female privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/25 09:42 AM
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If I’m straight there is a hottest woman. If I’m bi there isn’t one hottest person.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/25 06:27 AM
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I was talking about your point🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 03:47 PM
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Yes, high body count women hitting the wall and settling for low body/virgin betas.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 12:17 PM
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It could be but I call cap. I think they just don’t like the idea they can’t completely fulfill his desire and label it as being not attracted to the idea of the sex act in order to seem less homophobic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:44 AM
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That’s literally the entire idea behind the rp movement and why feminists universally despise it so much. Before rp this may have been the case. But men are waking up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:05 AM
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Or they don’t end up together at all. Childlessness, declining marriage rates, increased divorce rates e.t.c.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 11:02 AM
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So still, no woman would be completely fine with it. Whether you take dick or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:31 AM
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You do know how gays have sex right? And also how untethered…. Just imagine how many different women men would be having sex with if all the women had the standards… of men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:20 AM
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But the ones with strict gender ideals would differentiate between top and bottom??
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 10:14 AM
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“Heterosexuals desire other heterosexuals…” So do most women care or don’t they?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:48 AM
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So if the dude was purely top never bottom these women would be completely fine with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:06 AM
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…Here comes the general round of gaslighting to repress cognitive dissonance that men and women are Infact, totally different.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:03 AM
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I meant you’ll eventually talk longterm because of logistical reasons like moving in or building a family not to agree on exclusivity. You definitely can intrinsically tell exclusivity without words. I’m not saying this goes for every relationship. But you CAN. And it’s just as deceitful to break that trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 09:00 AM
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Yes I’m talking of the latter. And yes eventually long term. But this was 3-4 months. Still a reasonable honeymoon phase where you don’t need to verbalise anything but still both completely understand there’s loyalty involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:38 PM
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I already explained I don’t. I understand that it’s selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:27 PM
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What do you mean “if they’re not acting like…”? he most likely observed she was acting like. That’s my entire point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:48 PM
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Thinking she’s about him and thinking they are exclusive are not the same
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 01:46 PM
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Good for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 11:23 AM
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I don’t think relationship proficiency should be measured by duration.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:48 AM
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1.virtually everyone is a feminist today since they all believe in gender egalitarianism. Republicans versus democrats is just feminists versus wokeist feminists. True non-feminists wouldn’t even dream of female senators. Yet we have females who literally negotiate wars they will never have to participate in. Yes and the analogy is a non sequitur. Think again. The point wasn’t that conscription was tied to voting rights but that voting rights was tied to conscription. This idea that voting shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 10:04 AM
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What? My point was literally less communication is needed the more intimate a relationship gets not more
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:57 AM
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It is completely irrelevant when or for what purpose the draft was created. Fact is it’s still in effect now in a system where women carry half the power without any responsibility to enforce the power. If feminists wanted to share that responsibility, it would be shared. But the majority are completely silent which just shows their fight isn’t egalitarian but exclusively female advocacy. Forced birthing right is a non sequitur since who is also forced to participate in the sustaining of populat…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:53 AM
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Enough to consider the relationship exclusive without verbal agreement
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:25 AM
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He shouldn’t understand her selfish mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:23 AM
1

I’ll pray for him🙏
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:18 AM
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I don’t know and I don’t care. I’m not about to debate a cynic on love.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 07:07 AM
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Yeah we concluded. Good luck with that 🫡
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:54 PM
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Oh this just gets better. So it’s a power play above all else. “If YoU LiKe tHaN yOu sHoUld hAvE pUt A RiNg On it”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:51 PM
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No he shouldn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:47 PM
2

Chad has truly screwed out your brains
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:45 PM
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Fvck me this is the blue pill. Taking a guy dick deep and then telling themselves no one is responsible for their feeling’s except themselves. All alone but full of bone. Society is cooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:44 PM
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You’re blowing this all out of proportion. All I’m saying is if a woman knows it would hurt who’s she dating to hookup with another she should refrain from doing it, or be forthcoming. I don’t actually understand why this is such a controversial take. All this other mumbo about boyfriends playing the field has got nothing to do with my position. But yes generally both sexes should refrain from deceit and dishonesty. It just so happens that in my experience most girls still want Chad even when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:31 PM
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We’re expecting women to have empathy that would lead to the same understanding of him you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:10 PM
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Good. We can agree to not be friends 🤝
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:06 PM
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Is this some kind of a humiliation ritual? Seriously why would I need to ask if you already know?!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:04 PM
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Who said anything about relationship status? Modern women really do see themselves as bikes to rent lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 10:01 PM
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How would he know when to go in for the first kiss?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:58 PM
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The only way to navigate among people who may or may not share your values and your same view on relationships is by discussing your values and asking theirs. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 09:55 PM
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Because you will suck as a counterpart in literally every personal relationship in your life. But you do you. Build your social circle out of contracts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:29 PM
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Well if you can understand then she can. And if she can understand then how exactly is she being empathetic? Empathy is the basis. Any communication is to build on that, not pose as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:26 PM
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So you admit you’d know and still base your actions on your desire for chads dick. Case closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:22 PM
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Funny because that is exactly what I think of women who say there MUST be a conversation or there is no exclusivity. …and the immature ones are just the nice ones
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:20 PM
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This comment wasn’t on the post. This comment was on her comment of assertions over herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:17 PM
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It wasn’t a personal attack. I generalised women like you generalised men. My point was never based on sleeping together, my point was that a certain level of intimacy entails many repercussions, one of which that it would cause suffering to sleep with someone else. And l don’t expect any behaviour from men I don’t sleep with men. I can only speak from my perspective and say. Yes. Definitely if specific dynamics arouse I would see it as complete betrayal if she touched someone else. And I’m 99,9…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:11 PM
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At this point I’m starting to believe you women actually get a sadistic kick out of hurting men this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:52 PM
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You can tell if a guy is head over heels for you and would be devastated to find out you’re mingling with someone else. Don’t lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:51 PM
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Because that literally means, if nobody ever asks anything of you, you will only ever be able to act in your own interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:48 PM
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I said find someone, not is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:42 PM
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If you agree with the point he made than you would understand that any conversation would be completely redundant. Making your behaviour even more cynical than previously anticipated. You know perfectly well you’re both in agreement that sleeping around hurts him. But will commit the act anyway, THEN clear your name because nothing was ever officially verbalised. Truly diabolical.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:41 PM
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I’ll admit you make a good point as to the double standard but that still doesn’t relieve you of your cynical position to exploit such double standard. Proving OPs point. Exploiting loopholes. If you knew it would hurt him, why do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:29 PM
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So I highly doubt it. Specially since he resorted to complaining on liberal Reddit. but if he does it’s also shitty
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:21 PM
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Relationships being open on men’s end has nothing to do with assumptions. Most make it perfectly clear from the get go since they know how controversial it is. But I agree. Those that don’t are aholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:14 PM
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If you looked up cynicism in the dictionary…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:11 PM
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Ah now I understand. You’re all sour because chad doesn’t like to commit. Talk about alpha widowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 06:07 PM
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Because that is what love is. It’s non verbal. I can have the most loving of relationships ever with babies who can’t speak a single word. I don’t need words to define love. If you do need words to define “love” then that precisely the problem. But I completely agree IF she didn’t know then it’s a compatibility issue. But that’s a humongous if. 99,999% of women would sense it. And if she wasn’t sure she could have just said hey I’m fvcking around instead of playing dumb and insulting their relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:52 PM
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Your omission is screaming
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:44 PM
1

What if he’s one of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:42 PM
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Because empathy is literally everything else than how YOU would feel. That that is your only consideration is precisely proving mine and OPs point. You’re so unaware you can’t even consider approaching dating from a different perspective than what you have to gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:42 PM
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I’m not saying relationships like that don’t exist, I’m saying you don’t need words to tell what type of relationship it is. Him being upset after finding out 3-4 months in tells me two things, she’s either extremely emotionally unaware (which I highly doubt. Specially in women who are basically armchair philosophers on current social dynamics since middle school). Or she ruthlessly exploited the fact that he didn’t catch up and say anything and the resulting ambiguity of the situation with alli…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:36 PM
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The good ol days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:25 PM
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Yes and because there not the same it’s not just because of different sexual norms that they weren’t sleeping around in the past but also for the second reason that some sense of “monogamy” was expected in the past even if not on the level of marriage. That was my point. Comparing the two just seems like a scapegoat to make modern women feel less guilty about their never ending hoephases while they’re single until they officially become an item. It’s not liberty, it’s emotional cynicism. But if …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:24 PM
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I assume he wasn’t if he assumed exclusivity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:08 PM
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You ignoring my empathy premises. Without that no wonder dating is going to shit - no matter how much communication
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:05 PM
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You’re literally saying that you don’t make assumptions that people should care about your feelings. Because if they know it will hurt me then I very well will assume that my potential love wouldn’t want to do that. So the only important question is, do you really think she thought he was perfectly fine with her spreading her legs after 3-4months of intese dating? Or is it just as OP described with her finding loopholes to be the classic modern woman RP laments who sleeps up with Chad as long as…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 04:03 PM
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So you think the woman honestly thought he was perfectly fine with her taking body shots after 3-4 months of intense dating? Because that’s all that matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:55 PM
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I’m not arguing just to argue I’m try to emphasise there is a clear distinction between getting to know people and fvcking them. No matter how much attitudes toward sex change. But this kinda circles back to what OP was mentioning about everything being seen as contractual nowadays. I’m aloud or I’m not aloud. Black or white. I’m saying there’s nuance, and it matters a ton. Nuance is basically what defines love. To put it bluntly you’re basically emotionally retarted if you view sleeping around …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:53 PM
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But making casual sex part of dating means the attitude to dating changed aswell since “exclusivity” wasn’t expected but the intention toward monogamy was, beginning minimum with the 2nd date and not months later when it happens to be topic of conversation. Keeping your potentially monogamous options open and spreading your legs just aren’t emotionally comparable no matter how much sexual liberation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:42 PM
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It’s the autism. Empathy is the foundation of normal human interaction, amplify that in relationships. You don’t need a conversation that unannounced sleeping around is unempathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:34 PM
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Do you really think the woman thought he was perfectly fine with her having side pieces? Because if she didn’t that’s precisely proving his point. She taking advantage of the fact that he didn’t speak up regardless. What a cynical way to find someone you supposedly “love”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:29 PM
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Talking stages without sleeping with anybody isn’t polygamy. So it defeats the purpose of making it comparable to sleeping with other people while dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:25 PM
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It’s an objective truth on the absolute majority of subjective attraction of men. Value is determined by demand after all. So yes it is the absolute truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 01:00 PM
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Well it is tragic, because sexual liberation has made it so that 90% of women will sleep with “movie stars” atleast once, then settle for you. I agree it’s not worth trying to be settled for. I wouldn’t even not try to be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:43 AM
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Hold on isnt the whole idea of slutshaming a traditional phenomena? You don’t have to like it but female promiscuity has always been viewed differently to men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:55 PM
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You seem to have a very black and white approach. When I say traditional I mean anybody who accepts that men and women have different roles, standards and authority in relationships. What precisely they are can be as diverse as the rainbow you worship. I’m not restricting my ideals to the bloody Amish.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 11:24 PM
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I would say most men that ddon’t fall for the feminist propaganda that they should only entertain women their age are traditional leaning. Also yes, that’s the whole point of tradition and gender roles. To hold women and men to different standards. Because they are different.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 10:24 PM
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Traditional men are the heads of there households. Experience is by far the most valuable trait in that position. If biology wouldn’t limit us 200 year old men would be better fathers and husbands than 20 yo men. In women experience tends to just mean baggage, so there’s that to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 06:37 PM
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The point is starting a relationship with a woman pre 25 means, optimally, you will experience her peak at 25. We’re talking about fertility of LTRs here, not ONS. Also you may be lesbian, but I’d still be very hesitant to compare your sexual/relationship drive with that of any man - then conclude much of youth attraction is predatory. All statistics show even with gays and lesbians, the inherent biological sexual behaviour remains relatively consistent. Gays are more promiscuous than heterosexu…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:49 AM
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How do men contradict themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:10 AM
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How do men contradict themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:09 AM
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How does wanting a social life contradict finding fulfilment in yourself? I imagine you do both. Or what’s your solution? Don’t socialise with anyone until you find fulfilment in being completely alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 11:19 AM
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I’ll never understand how those who are deemed miserable are deemed those who put little effort into finding fulfilment in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 09:23 AM
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But this ignores the reality that many women will eventually settle for relationships that meet certain needs, that still would have never met the needs of a casual hookup or friends with benefits. Women settle for relationships all the time, do women “settle” solely for the purpose of having sex? not so much. So the reality still holds true, attraction matters more the more fleeting the relationship is for a woman. In LTRs men find other ways to make up ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:33 AM
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Feminism doesn’t care for individualism. It’s obsession is group power dynamics. With a trickle down effect to the individual level. Have you ever wondered how believe all women can make any sense at all? Feminists understand women do lie, but they also understand that proof beyond reasonable doubt is an impossible metric to hold in the confines and privacy of inmate sexual relations. The reality of rape will not be done justice with proper due process. So they pivot to a “balance” to equalise t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 08:24 AM
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Where are all these women that don’t like money, muscles and status? Every Incel would like to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 07:58 AM
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