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| 2 | What do you think about guys waiting until their late 20s/30s to date?Right, but a 28 year old man who hasn't dated a woman, hasn't seriously spent a lot of time with a woman, hasn't spent a lot of time cultivating a romantic relationship... you learn a lot when you go through that in your 20s. Guys who choose not to do any of that until their 30s are going to have difficulty keeping a relationship - there's a lot of bullshit that goes along with learning how to be in a relationship and most women won't put up with that shit when they're looking for someone to set… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/06/20 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Didn't work like she thoughtLol, imagine thinking cosmos is a 'source'. Also, where's the slur? Like this entire sub is a disgusting cesspool of misogyny, but you're right, me pointing out your absolutely incorrect understanding of female sexuality is the real problem. Go off king. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 22/02/20 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Didn't work like she thoughta lot of women Lol, never seen a man tell on himself this badly. Dude, very few women can achieve orgasm without some sort of clitoral stimulation, but please, keep telling us about how some girl faked it because you spent too long with your head buried in her tits and she got bored. | /r/PussyPassDenied | 22/02/20 11:33 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Women rejecting guys for height is no less sexist than men rejecting women for sexual past.Men are not that shallow to women. You've got to be fucking kidding me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 03:04 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Women rejecting guys for height is no less sexist than men rejecting women for sexual past.It's almost as if society judges individuals unfairly based on traits they have no control over, as if we don't exist within a perfect meritocracy... I wonder if your point could be extrapolated to other things like sex, race, disability, etc? /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 02:59 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women rejecting guys for height is no less sexist than men rejecting women for sexual past.nope, there is a definite "ew slut" gut reaction, which has little to do with conditioning, patriarchy or anything obviously 'conscious' And you know that because....? Like how do you know that your reaction to a woman who has had many partners isn't part of societal conditioning; you can't know that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/19 02:53 PM |
| -98 | It's finally being acknowledged in other parts of RedditOh come on, you're seriously linking me an article to the huffington post and you're accusing this sub of fake news? Yes, because a selfie of some random dude with shit scribbled on a piece of paper is more reliable than the huffington post. /s Also, did you even read what you just posted? It's an opinion piece, by a guy who runs several men's rights organizations, as a response to a small study that demonstrates no bias in family courts in Wales and England. So the author of your opinion piece … | /r/MensRights | 12/02/19 09:25 PM |
| -140 | It's finally being acknowledged in other parts of RedditNah, I think your sub is bullshit. You don't give a shit about men's rights, you only care about tearing down women. If you want to see an example of men standing up for men, go to menslib. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/19 08:26 PM |
| -347 | It's finally being acknowledged in other parts of RedditCan you explain to me how Feminists are doing anything to keep men away from their children? Preventing men from parenting their children is actually the antithesis of what feminists want. We are literally fighting to get men to take MORE responsibility for their children, FFS. Fuck this fake news bullshit, and fuck this fake men's rights bullshit. Ban me. EDIT: Your talking points are bullshit | /r/MensRights | 12/02/19 08:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Should I use "red pill" at work?maybe try to slap an ass a couple of times Are you joking? Test the waters by assaulting your co-worker? Just a bit of fun for people who don't understand personal boundaries or how not to be an aggressive creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/18 10:14 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: Should I use "red pill" at work?I get that it's a lowkey job, and it's fine to make friends with your co-workers or even to ask them out, but not when they're working. I'm sorry, I've had serving/waitressing jobs and bartending jobs, in customer facing service jobs you get harassed enough as it is, if a co-worker ever tried any moves on me (especially all the bullshit that comes along with TRP) I'd lose it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/18 11:55 AM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Should I use "red pill" at work?What? So because it doesn't matter that he gets fired, it's fine for him to bother his co-workers while they're doing their jobs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/18 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Do male feminists attract female feminists?The many men and women who work in academics to advance feminist critical theory...? I would really encourage you to actually try to engage with feminism, rather than just writing it off without understanding the core concepts. A person can very easily claim to be something, when they clearly take actions that contravene their claims; it's not my problem if you can't engage in the issue because you have no understanding of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 11:26 AM |
| 1 | Do male feminists attract female feminists?Well, there is an entire area of study dedicated to feminist thought; have you ever actually read any feminist critical theory? It's easy to say 'anyone can be a feminist!' when you don't know anything about it. Think more critically; for instance, if someone said they were a fan of a sports team but they don't know anything about the team, or the sport, and in fact they consistently talk in a derogatory manner about that team, would you interpret them as actually being a fan? I don't understand… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 11:23 AM |
| 2 | Do male feminists attract female feminists?I mean... a person can claim to be anything they want, but if you look purely at their actions, and disregard who they claim to be, then it's easy to conclude that some men claiming to be feminists clearly are not, and are somehow using the movement for their own purposes rather than being a true ally. That's the issue that a lot of feminists have with certain male feminists (not all, obviously.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/18 11:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.I would challenge the whole premise of this assertion based on your assumption that there is an inherent way that men need to 'Be'; and I would provide my own counter argument that dictating what men or women must 'Be', i.e. their interests, behaviours, how they socialize, is actually damaging. Just 'Be' yourself, I know that that gets a lot of eye rolls, but I think reinforcing specific behaviours and gendering them alienates a lot of people. A lot of women these days find it difficult and burd… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/18 10:47 PM |
| 9 | /r/Incels has been banned...Lol what? Have you been on Twox? It's just men telling women how to feel about women's issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 02:37 PM |
| 8 | The Day without Women proves that society treats women like childrenwhich is taking jobs from men If a woman is more deserving of the job, why is that seen as 'taking' a job from a man? Is a man automatically more deserving of professional work? In what way do you believe women are 'taking' these jobs unfairly? Feminism isn't about female domination like you're implying, that's a tired old (like suffragette old) strawman that is thrown around here a lot. Feminism is about equity between the genders, if you read some feminist critical theory, especially contempor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 02:33 AM |
| 7 | The Day without Women proves that society treats women like childrenHuh, looks like women themselves are starting to catch on Lol, a handful of comments does not represent all of womankind. I didn't go into work today, though I am a junior partner in my firm so that was my prerogative. Instead I spent the day with a group of my friends, many of whom are Irish women, protesting for the repeal of the 8th amendment, which prohibits doctors from providing abortion care unless the woman's life is in danger (and even then they sometimes will refuse). If you don't want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/17 02:17 AM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: What was the purpose of the 2017 Women's March?Actually I used Bill Clinton, if you read my post you would see that within his first month of office he had the lowest approval rating of the past 10 presidents, at 51% approval. I could have made other comparisons, like Obama at 64% approval, or Bush Junior at 62%, how about his father,Bush Senior, at 63%? How about GOP god Regean at 55%? All compared to Trump, who currently sits at 39% I mean, the fact that you couldn't even read my comment properly, or look up those statistics yourself, is a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 03:27 PM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: What was the purpose of the 2017 Women's March?Except that the Brexit poll was off by 2.0 percentage points, and the American election was off by 3.3 percentage points; Trumps approval ratings are lower by a margin of 12 percentage points than Bill Clinton, who was the president that previously had the lowest approval ratings during the first month of his presidency. Are you suggesting that these polls have a margin of error of greater than 12 percentage points? Or are you just making false equivalencies to try and blur the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: What was the purpose of the 2017 Women's March?Not at all, just calling you out on your false equivalence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 01:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4men: face, ass, tits, pick twoThis thread is exactly what is wrong with TRP; honestly do you think that women appreciate being whittled down to 3 body parts? Face, Ass, Tits? This thread is so creepy and gross my vagina just snapped shut and crawled up inside my stomach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4WOMEN: What was the purpose of the 2017 Women's March?Ah yes, 2+2=5 now that Trump is in office; the leaks are real but the news is fake, and so are the polls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: What was the purpose of the 2017 Women's March?Because usually a group that protests, demands something like better services or equality Well, if you actually knew anything about the Women's march, then you would know that they have a manifesto that details exactly what they were protesting for. Instead of just regurgitating the BS you read on Breitbart maybe you should actually read about the movement that you clearly dislike so much. I think the real question is, why do you have such a huge problem with people protesting? They are just pra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/17 01:09 PM |
| 2 | Do many RPers still support Trump after the last few weeks?All I've seen him do is at least strive to put campaign promises into action No, all you've seen him do is sign unenforceable executive orders that go against the very fabric of your constitution; what will end up happening is that most of those executive orders will be tied up in costly court for the next 4 years while nothing gets accomplished. And it wasn't 1 person (Michael Flynn) in his administration that has Russian ties, so far it has been 3 people (Carter Page and Paul Manafort, not to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/17 10:13 PM |
| 1 | January 2017 Survey ResultsBecause women could never actually succeed on their own merit, obvs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 11:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most Slut Shaming, is Really Just Slut Hating. This Also Applies For Different Or Weird Girls.I think this is the perfect response to slut shaming. Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 10:16 PM |
| 4 | Women's movements contain 0 self-development, impose gender roles.Automatically she's shifted from a 5 to a 7. And women disregard this advice why? Probably because she doesn't want to be rated on a scale of 1 to 10 like she's in a dog show. Seriously, did you even read the Women's March Manifesto ? How could those changes be enacted through increased personal responsibility? These are overarching and external forces that affect the lives of a lot of women (and men too) daily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the Women's March Having a Convicted Torturer/Murderer as a Guest Speaker?Lol do you know how ridiculous you sound? Did you even try to understand the movement before you decided they were incoherent? Here is a short and sweet Mission statement Just because you don't understand the concept of intersectionality doesn't mean that a movement is incoherent; it just means that once again a member of TRP has failed to recognize nuance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/17 12:13 AM |
| 2 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?Like I have said before, TRP seems to only deal in extremes, there needs to be some understanding of nuance here. Learning consent and boundaries is most certainly not the same as what you're asserting, the fact that you think that is actually quite disturbing to me; consent and respect are essential elements in having healthy sexual interactions. How can you enjoy sex if your partner isn't enjoying it also? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 11:47 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?Yeah, I get what you're saying, but being a teenager sucks for both genders, and once again I don't think what you're talking about is something that can be taught, I actually think that trying to 'teach' that might be damaging or at least confusing for a child/teenager. I think that an awkward period of sexual self discovery is something that everyone should go through; it's rough but then again life is rough and you need to lean how to deal with things like learning to be vulnerable, rejection… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 11:44 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?It wasn't meant to be an insult, but I think you should be clearer with your comments; in hindsight it seemed like you were trying to insult my parenting choices but then you yourself got offended when I thought the very same comment applied to you. Maybe you should rethink the way that you address people on here, it's a debate forum, not a place to just throw out insulting and ambiguous hypotheticals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 11:27 PM |
| 2 | Would it have been better if Hillary won for dating in general?Well, considering the Trump government's plan to repeal the ACA and defund planned parenthood, I would say that Hillary was probably better for your sex lives at the very least. I think it's only a logical conclusion that if you have better access to the means of having a healthy and safe sex life; such as affordable birth control, STD testing, treatment for sexual deficiencies etc. you're more willing to put yourself out there and have more sex. But, I don't really have a horse in this race, as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 04:18 PM |
| 5 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?I'm sorry, I'm still having difficulty figuring out what you're trying to say; is it you who is the NEET? or is it my son, because of my parenting model? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 04:09 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?Yes, I would agree that there are some definite deficiencies in the way that sexual education is taught to both genders, but that wasn't the question I was answering. In terms of sexual education, I would obviously not try to make him 'achieve maximum sexual success' (again, creepy and gross) but to help him have a healthy outlook on sex and how to relate to any of his chosen partners (whatever their gender). That means a thorough understanding of consent, respectful boundaries, personal autonom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 04:06 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?What about the children of lesbian same sex couples? Or trans parents? Or single mothers? Do you believe that they aren't capable of teaching their sons how to be Men? My own husband is an excellent Man and human being, and I love him dearly, but he was raised by a single mother. Personally I believe that having two parents loving and respectful parents is obviously an advantage, but you don't need a man to raise a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 04:06 PM |
| 5 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?I literally have no clue what your post means, what is a NEET? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 03:53 PM |
| 24 | [Q4BP]How would you raise your son if you wanted him to achieve maximum sexual success in his teenage years and 20s?Why on earth would I focus the way I raise my son on his achieving 'maximum sexual success' while he is a teenager? Frankly that seems a bit strange, damaging and creepy. I would raise all of my children the same way, no matter their gender, focusing on social engagement, respect for others, education, setting and achieving goals and cultivating interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/01/17 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Do you agree with this statements?I'm failing to see your point? She didn't pay for University because she joined the army, don't you have a similar deal in America? Schooling here currently costs £9,000/annum which is approximately $11,000, not including living costs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 09:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill would change this losers life and TBP has no idea what they're doingWhat if I told you I feel similarly about TRP; just a bunch of lonely, frustrated and angry guys sitting around on their computers, participating in a circle jerk that leaves them feeling increasingly lonely, frustrated and angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Do you agree with this statements?No, she was trained by the British armed forces, so I guess she was actually paid to learn her skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Do you agree with this statements?I actually do know someone who has a BA and an MA in gender studies; ironically he's a guy! (he's currently unemployed and living in his Mom's basement) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Do you agree with this statements?Ugh, it's so depressing reading this; my MIL is a specialised burns surgery nurse who has been working for the NHS for almost 40 years. She definitely doesn't make anywhere near those salaries, currently nurses with her level of experience are paid a max of £40,000. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 12:44 AM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: Have you ever been pumped and dumped?Only once, in University. I had a fairly flirtatious relationship with this guy starting in our freshman year, we eventually hooked up in our 3rd year. We had actually been good friends, and we had even made out and gone on a few dates, even hung out at this flat together a few times before we finally hooked up. After we had sex he just completely stopped talking to me/texting me, I wasn't expecting it at all, especially because of some stuff he had said to me. It actually felt really shitty, I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/17 12:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Red Pill would change this losers life and TBP has no idea what they're doingIn most self-help books? The bonus is they don't bring along damaging ideologies about women, power dynamics in relationships and absolutely misogynistic and creepy ideas like LMR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/17 10:58 AM |
| 2 | When Gender Roles are one Avenue for Harmony in a Relationship and How Gendered Power can be an IllusionHonestly, this 'power dynamics' stuff sounds absolutely exhausting. Why not just treat your spouse as your partner and equal? I mean, I'm married and I don't view it as this sort of competition for power or dominance over one another. My husband and I are partners; we work together for common goals that we talk about and help each other through, we both understand what we're working for; if I'm busy at work then he takes on more household responsibilities and if he's busy at work then I take on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/17 10:54 AM |
| 3 | DNA testing should be mandatory at birthI just want to point out that many states don't have enough money to DNA test the thousands of rape kits that are still left waiting to be processed; but you want them to test every child and father? Be realistic, if this is something that you can do discretely at home, then why the hell should the tax payers foot the bill for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/01/17 09:39 AM |
| 3 | Red Pill is the only place that doesn't sugar coat reality, saying "you can get the good info elsewhere" is meaninglessCalm down, you triggered? I was just pointing out that we can't become slaves to our most primitive biological urges when we participate in a society that strives to exist above the base animal within us (unless you think that that computer you're on magically popped out of nowhere) The natural and basic do not dictate human social behaviour, that would completely ignore ideas that we have based our society on, such as our laws; ethics and morality or even the basic social contract. If you belie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 03:26 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill is the only place that doesn't sugar coat reality, saying "you can get the good info elsewhere" is meaninglessNot for humans; we actually have quite a few rules. If you want to return to the Paleolithic period invent a time machine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?This whole thread was about not groping women's bodies, the post you responded to was about men grabbing women's bodies, FFS. And yet you still try to equivocate? I'm done I shouldn't have responded to you in the first place, you clearly just want to keep obfuscating the issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Blooper here to give advice on what worked and not just criticizeunless I'm genuinely interested on something on her profile or about her. Well did you ever consider that this is why they don't respond. I can't really imagine anyone would respond to someone that they didn't believe had a genuine interest in them, especially on a site that is dedicated to finding a significant other rather than just casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 02:17 PM |
| 3 | CMV - Can we kill the Blooper claim that TRP is telling men what they want to hear?She was my princess. My reason for being alive. She's my princess! Girls like her don't do that! That's your problem; this ideal/pedestal that you placed your wife (ex-wife?) upon. Feminists/'bloopers' etc. aren't saying that that TRP tells men what they want to hear; I absolutely don't think that all men are 'like that' (NAMALT), and I've literally never heard anyone say such a thing on this debate site. However I do agree that TRP gives incels/MGTOW/Misogynists what they want to hear. (confirm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 02:13 PM |
| 2 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?That's not what I was saying at all; you missed the point (You seem slow for a ninja) I was pointing out that there is a big difference between women pushing you in a crowded night club and (in an entirely different scenario; not involving you at all because I would never make assumptions about you.) a man grabbing a woman's body for sexual gratification. I have absolutely no problem with you pushing back against pushy people; I do that all the time too, that's a pretty regular part of life. Wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/01/17 09:25 AM |
| 2 | Let's Try This Again.. CMV: Christian Grey is Red PillNo more than pornography motivates men's behaviours, because that's basically what 50 shades is, mild pornography. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/17 10:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do some people resent seeing a woman do manual labor?I think you're misunderstanding what I was trying to point out; there was a political movement to get women involved in the work force at all levels, but the prejudice and vitriol that women have received when trying to join the labour force in the construction industry is the reason why so few train in specialised construction roles, and the reason why many (approx. 40%) who have trained to enter the construction industry end up leaving it to pursue other careers. I'm a woman in construction, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/01/17 08:51 AM |
| 1 | Why do some people resent seeing a woman do manual labor?Alright, if you're unhappy with OP's definition of 'manual labour' then I've laid out the working conditions that women in construction have to deal with here, it's just a more extreme version of what OP was already saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 08:29 PM |
| 11 | [discussion] Men are not entitled to sex....Literally no one, not feminists, not women, not the BP are claiming that women are entitled to a relationship; I don't see why this needs repeating? The reason that we always bring up that men are not entitled to sex is because it seems to be a common trend on TRP; complaints about women fucking only men who are 6ft and gorgeous and ignoring 'regular' guys, as if there is any way to change the way that women use their free will to select for their sexual partners (hint; the only way is scopolami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Why do some people resent seeing a woman do manual labor?There really isn't much that women/feminists could do to combat this stigma, except for more women to enter specialist construction training, such as Joinery, plumbing, welding etc. and attitudes towards female labourers slowly change; however there still really isn't much motivation for these companies to hire them, and if they are filling their equal opportunities quotas then legally there is no recourse against them. Finally, why is it that women have to do all the work here, why is this on u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 07:17 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Slut shaming is primarily a F2F issueNo, they all genuinely just thought I was a slut; one of those assholes tried to grope me at a party and I shut him down pretty hard, so he told everyone that I sucked his dick in the drama room at school. After that a lot of guys from my school started saying that I had hooked up with them, even some guys I had literally never spoken to. It got so bad that the school even called my parents to let them know they had heard some 'concerning' rumours about me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Why do some people resent seeing a woman do manual labor?Well, I'm a woman who works in the construction industry and I have definitely observed these attitudes; though I am not a labourer, I'm an architect, I agree that there are certain prejudices that emerge when women are labourers (or when they try to be labourers and are shut out, which is often the case) I've had female plumbers/surveyors/electricians/general workers (almost every role actually) on my sites before, and they are almost universally treated as a liability by their companies and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 11:17 AM |
| 5 | Blue Pills: Have you tried any Red Pill strategies?How is that in any way an intelligent or thoughtful response to what I have written? That common phrase, used by many young girls, in part, proves my point; girls feel the need to express that they aren't 'like other girls' (and notice how you said girls, because generally this phrase is used by girls who have yet to learn how to properly express their frustration at the way they are pigeonholed because of their gender) because they feel compartmentalised by the way they are treated/talked to/ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 01:18 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Slut shaming is primarily a F2F issueThis. TRP is a belief system/lifestyle/sexual strategy (whatever the fuck) designed for, and used by men, that actively advocates for slut shaming; am I missing something? This is literally a post about how women are slut shammers, posted by a male slut shammer, and backed up by other male slut shammers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 01:08 AM |
| 1 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?I can see that I won't change your mind because of your refusal to take a moment to self-reflect or try to empathise with the perspective of a potential or past sexual partner. I would like to say that even people in the BDSM community, who actively seek out aggressive partners, know the importance of checking the level of comfort/consent of their partners while they are actively engaging in sexual activity. I honestly and seriously can't imagine a situation in which your own sexual gratificatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 01:03 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Slut shaming is primarily a F2F issueYeah, I was bullied hardcore during my time in high school because I was supposedly a 'slut'; the irony is that I'd never even kissed a boy and I was quite shy. I even got a nasty letter in the form of a petition, where a bunch of guys signed it, and it basically said that, because I was such a slut, it was wrong of me to not put out for them. No woman has ever done something as horrible and shaming as that to me; I know it's only an anecdote, but with this type of question the only information … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 12:36 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Do you think Rowling's doctor husband would have married her, despite her being 6 years older and a single mother, had she not been rich? So does money/status sometimes help a woman's SMV?Oh come on, you guys have a ton of non-sensical terms and it seems like their definitions often get changed in order to suit the need; I don't see anything wrong with asking for clarification or a definition. Seriously, if you want people to actually agree with you or to start seeing these issues from your perspective maybe you should stop acting like such a dick? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 12:31 AM |
| 1 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?This kind of mentality is the exact reason why I find TRP so dangerous; you would rather push a woman past her sexual boundaries and purposefully not get verbal consent from her simply because you want to get laid. I'm not even saying you always have to get verbal consent before you have any sexual contact, I'm just saying that if you're unsure if your partner is comfortable/enthusiastic then you should check in on them. Let me ask you, if you were hooking up with a woman and you're very enthusi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/17 12:16 AM |
| 3 | Blue Pills: Have you tried any Red Pill strategies?If you would break up with your SO after he/she cut contact for a day When did I say this? I said if an SO regularly (i.e. more than once, as in if it became a destructive pattern of behaviour in a relationship) cuts contact after a disagreement, especially for more than a day, and refused to communicate about a relationship issue, instead using the space to try and evade an issue or worse using fear to manipulate the situation for their own benefit, that type of behaviour is incredibly juvenile… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 06:01 PM |
| 4 | Blue Pills: Have you tried any Red Pill strategies?Yeah, that might work in the short term, but usually people catch on when they are being manipulated. To be honest, this kind of behaviour would generally be seen as fairly juvenile, especially in a LTR, and I would have serious issues if my SO regularly cut contact after we had a disagreement. Communication is an important aspect to a relationship, withdrawing that doesn't solve a problem, all it does is extends the issue or maybe sweeps it under a rug for a while. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 05:33 PM |
| 9 | Blue Pills: Have you tried any Red Pill strategies?I think you've once again missed the idea about 'nuance'; literally no one is saying that women aren't flawed, what we're saying is that women are all individuals and flawed in their own ways. The TRP mindset proliferates the idea that all women are the same, and codifies their behaviours as being predictable and as generally having malevolent motives. This is not only damaging to women (the women you interact with, as well as proliferating this misogynistic compartmentalisation of women and the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Six reasons why common anti-slut-shaming arguments are hypocritical and simply false.Uh, did I say that? I was responding to the question, and I obviously assumed (because I understand nuance) that /u/fairlynaive was using hyperbole to describe the open shaming that 'sluts' (i.e. really any woman who chooses to have sex) receives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 04:55 PM |
| 1 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?If a woman really does want to have sex with you, then verbally confirming that with her won't change her mind. If you ask her if she's sure she wants to continue (with the sex) and she says 'no', then she wasn't comfortable and didn't want to have sex with you in the first place (and you've just stopped what could have potentially turned into a rape, congratulations!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 11:15 AM |
| 1 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?Wow, creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 01:54 AM |
| 2 | What type of woman is this?if I want to use that as an example to make a point I will. Yes, and if I want to point out that your example is both unrealistic and also advances the damaging notion that the homeless have a greater propensity to randomly attack people on the street then I will. As I said before, I have found that men who define themselves as 'protective' often use that as an excuse to control their partners, or at the very least as a way to justify involving themselves obtrusively and sometimes violently in a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 01:54 AM |
| 4 | What type of woman is this?That's fine, you're entitled to your own feelings about your own marriage; I was simply explaining my personal marital dynamic because I was asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 01:12 AM |
| 2 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?Ah yes, the new craze of making sure that your partner is a willing participant in your sexual escapades; these crazy millennials, what will they think of next?! /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 01:07 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: Can someone explain how so many women are both single and SAHMsLol, I think the irony escapes this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 12:30 AM |
| 14 | QFW: Do you like men to verbalize their intent - turn on or turn off?I think this is actually a fairly straightforward question to answer; women (just like men, I assume) want a partner who understands social cues and how to read a situation, that being whether or not she is enthusiastically consenting to your advances (and vice versa). If you are ever in any doubt about having someone’s consent, you should ask. It really is that simple. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 12:18 AM |
| 6 | What type of woman is this?I'm not always with my husband when I'm on the street, I live my own life and have my own career, so the expectation that he would be there to save me is already ridiculous. I can defend myself. Also I really hate that you're using the trope of the 'dangerous homeless person' as an example; that's a really damaging perception of the most vulnerable people in our society. I regularly work with homeless people at my volunteer position, and I can assure you that they aren't any more dangerous than … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/17 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Six reasons why common anti-slut-shaming arguments are hypocritical and simply false.Babies, for those sluts to trap them with, obvs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/17 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Six reasons why common anti-slut-shaming arguments are hypocritical and simply false.We're definitely talking about the latter, rather than the former. I have no problem with a person having a personal preference for a certain attribute of their chosen partner; however when you get into openly judging, shaming and vilifying someone for their own personal preferences, and for something that literally has no effect on your life, that's when we stop being friends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/17 11:42 PM |
| 3 | Six reasons why common anti-slut-shaming arguments are hypocritical and simply false.Women do not tend to care about lofty civilization building concepts like morality and virtue This isn't true, this is simply your opinion and not a fact, and it's an absolutely crap and misogynistic one at that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/17 11:38 PM |
| 8 | Six reasons why common anti-slut-shaming arguments are hypocritical and simply false.To make women feel bad for having control and enjoying their sex lives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/17 11:37 PM |
| 3 | What type of woman is this?Sounds like a mix of blue and red, so I guess purple. I'm a feminist (so I guess blue, though I really wouldn't define myself as such) and I honestly don't want or need anyone to protect me; I have found that 'protective' generally just means controlling, or at the very least your partner views you as being less capable of handling yourself. One of the reasons I love my husband so much is that he respects me enough to allow me to fight my own battles. I could also imagine that a lot of RP wives … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/01/17 11:22 PM |
| 7 | Discussion: Can someone explain how so many women are both single and SAHMsI only know one Woman who has this kind of arrangement; she lives in subsidised council housing near my MIL. She has 3 children (all by the same father, not that that should be anyone's business) but unfortunately her youngest daughter is severely disabled. I know that her housing is completely subsidised by the council, her house has some very specialist equipment for her daughter to help with her disability and all of this is for free from the NHS as well as medication (thank God for the NHS);… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 07:11 PM |
| 5 | Q4BP: How would you increase the conviction rate of rapists?A Rape kit is when a hospital takes evidence off of a victim after they have reported their rape. There is a very specific way of handling evidence, a chain of custody, so it must be processed in a medical facility, and then it must remain in the custody of the police, so private testing is not possible. The kits take DNA evidence off of the victim, from under their fingernails, off their bodies, from wherever they were penetrated as well as the clothing that the victim was wearing. Additionally… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?If you don't see a distinction between pushing through a crowded club, and grabbing a person's body for your sexual gratification without their permission, then I have nothing to say to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 04:47 PM |
| 3 | What is your favorite type of porn and does it differ from what you are looking for in a relationship?I agree, but that whole 'being-accused-of-assault-by-a-bunch-of-female-costars' thing really killed his porn for me. Bummer. Now I also mostly stick to written erotica. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 01:49 AM |
| 1 | What is your favorite type of porn and does it differ from what you are looking for in a relationship?It's also kind of random that you posted that picture; I agree, it was very creepy. Maybe it's just the assumption that women would fuck any random guy who looked like that and came to their door, that's so opposite from real life, it's a bit disjointed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?Say it with me; Not. All. Women. Are. Like. That! How come, anytime a woman generalises men on here, and says something like 'men rape' we have to hear 'not all men' or 'women rape too' from some asshole terper who wants to distort the issue. Yet, in the very same breath, you guys feel like it's fine to literally generalise and group all women together? Why is that? Oh yeah, because you don't see women as being individuals. We are not some sinister hive mind, existing only to with hold sex from … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 01:17 AM |
| 10 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?I can see from your post that I would literally never agree with anything you've written; the type of respect that the OP is writing about is a huge issue for women, and TRP espouses the mentality that allows men to justify these types of abhorrent behaviours, which is why I so vehemently disagree with the RP. Why is it that a man's sex life is seen as being more important than respecting the autonomy 50% of the population? Because you think that your sex life is more important, which, in my opi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/17 01:10 AM |
| 13 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?But no one is asking for a 'special' respect; literally all woman (like in the OP FFS!) are asking for is the same respect that men are given on a daily basis. That means don't touch her body without her permission and that means don't treat her like she's a fucking idiot/child who doesn't know her own mind. Are you capable of that? From what I've seen and experienced in my day to day life, most men are completely capable of that; but for some reason on TRP this is treated like a toxic concept. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:59 PM |
| 2 | Gender segregating parenting and custodyWe have a similar system in the UK, however I think it has some major issues. My husband was placed on 'trade' track from when he was about 12 years old, he was consistently told by his education system that he could be 1 of 10 thing (if that) based on the fact that he didn't get good grades and he grew up in a council flat with a single mum. School wasn't working for him, so he dropped out, worked for a few years doing basic IT and art on the side, managed to get into college studying computer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:44 PM |
| 10 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?Hell, I never even got that in high school; guys would try to put their hands up our (uniform mandated) skirts, and we would get in trouble because those very same skirts didn't reach our knees. That's some BS right there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:31 PM |
| 4 | Why is the concept "respect women" received in such a hostile way by red pill men and MRAs?I don't think it was a freudian slip, I just think OP meant, when a woman says stop, or to leave her alone, you should listen to her. OP was missing a comma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:30 PM |
| 1 | Question for American WomenI don't really think that's true, have you ever spent time on twoxchromosomes or other forums dedicated to women? You would see that a lot of young women have the same problem; college friends separate, they breakup with a longterm boyfriend and they don't know how to build lasting connections with people. It's tough, I think a lot of people go through it, my husband and I jokingly call it our 'quarter life crisis'. The college class was just a suggestion, joining intramural sports, or getting i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:22 PM |
| 4 | Gender segregating parenting and custodyI just don't really understand the point of this though; our model for raising children has changed because our society has changed vastly since the early 1900's, including the fact that women can vote now (I know this wasn't the point, but I just wanted to demonstrate how ridiculous it is to propose a model of child rearing that literally existed before women had the right to vote) It is the 21st century now, our views on gender roles, child rearing and custody are vastly different; women can d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Gender segregating parenting and custodyWe have a lot of apprenticeship programs here in the UK, but for the most part it seems like an excuse for businesses to get cheap labour as well as tax cuts from the government. I'm fairly certain that even Pizza Hut has an apprenticeship program here. EDIT: Yup, was right pizza hut apprenticeship for those who want to learn how to make mediocre pizza. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Question for American WomenI mean, if your only socialising times are at the gym, online or at work, then I can see why you're not meeting viable dating options. Do you have a local college where you live? My husband went through a similar 'slump' in a lack of friends, so he started taking cooking classes once a week in the evenings at the college across the river from us, 8 classes per term cost £90, hardly unaffordable, and now he has a fairly stable group of friends in the city and as a bonus he has actually learned ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 03:09 PM |
| 3 | If the goverment is to fund birth control, implying safe sex is a human right on the level of healthcare and education, why should it also not fund brothels and self improvement courses?Providing the means to have safe sex, and actually providing sex are two very different things, and definitely not equivalent. I'm surprised to see such a thought posted on TRP honestly, I would think that you guys would support such an organisation. It gives people (of both genders) access to STD testing, safe and affordable birth control and free condoms. All of these services actually make sex less 'risky' for Women (and Men, btw) and therefore they are more likely to be disinhibited. In a wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 02:56 PM |
| 3 | Question for American WomenExcept that the women on here are telling you they don't....? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 10:38 AM |
| 2 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Alright, I understand now; you're afraid of what Trans people identifying as your own gender will mean for your masculinity. I can tell you that a trans-man identifying as a Man will have absolutely no impact on how people perceive you. I mean, this literally doesn't impact your life in any way at all, and yet you still seem to think that this is about you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 12:51 AM |
| 2 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Do you find the word 'Man' to be so intrinsically tied to your identity? If someone else doesn't identify with that label, how does that render it meaningless? It still exists, it can still be used as an identifier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/17 12:21 AM |
| 4 | QToMen: how many young non overweight females do you find attractive enough for sex?Among the non overweight women, a lot of men (myself include) could sleep with 70-80% of them. That's the question asked. Yes, and I calculated what that percentage would be, after eliminating all overweight women as well as your self-reported 70%, and I concluded that in America, that percentage of Women, that you guys would consider to be 'attractive enough for sex' (OP's words, not mine) would be 21% (again, not including any adjustment for age range) I'm not saying that people aren't picky a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 11:25 PM |
| 7 | QToMen: how many young non overweight females do you find attractive enough for sex?Yeah, I actually did the math here it would actually end up being less than 20% if you consider that the women have to be under the age of 30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 11:09 PM |
| 8 | QToMen: how many young non overweight females do you find attractive enough for sex?I get that, but it does seem a bit hypocritical, to be upset by the 20%/80% ratio, and to constantly complain about women's sexual selection choices (which I see all the time on here and on TRP, and would be happy to provide plenty of examples); and yet in this very post most respondents have eliminated 73% of the female population, and have admitted that they would only consider 27% of the female population for sex. That's literally what this thread is about, not relationships or anything like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 10:42 PM |
| 4 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?Most of these studies of people over time, especially surveys, are only mildly conclusive. But, once again, definitely more conclusive than your random opinion. Let me put it to you a different way, how are you going to convince myself, and all the other people on this debate forum, to agree with, or at least consider, a concept that we wouldn't normally agree with? Simply stating your opinion is probably the least effective way to achieve that. I just think, if you're not up for a bit of constr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 09:58 PM |
| 8 | Q4Women: What policies would you pass that will incentivize men into favoring marriage?Do you believe that your opinions constitute facts? What if my own opinion contradicts yours? How do we resolve that conflict? Oh yeah, research studies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 09:39 PM |
| 1 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?You said; Having a male brain in a female body (and vice versa) is as impossible as having a penis in a female body or a vagina in a male one. I was just pointing out that you were incorrect, and it is quite biologically possible. Again, I'm not going to argue your transphobic points, like I said earlier I'm not interested in even entertaining your hateful ideas about trans people, I just wanted to clear up that Intersex people actually do exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 09:31 PM |
| 7 | QToMen: how many young non overweight females do you find attractive enough for sex?I see a lot of the responses here to be about 70% of women are attractive enough for you to have sex with, but only of women who are not overweight. In a lot of western countries, however, including where I live in the UK, overweight women constitute greater than 50% of the population. I was wondering if these responses challenge the typical RP view that women can get laid whenever they want and/or are the controllers of sex? I mean if you lads won't have the majority of them, then doesn't that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 08:21 PM |
| 2 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?In what way does someone else's gender identity make your own identity meaningless? You're still you, whatever that constitutes, aren't you? There is a really great saying, which I quite enjoy and I think it applies to this case; 'If you're you, because you aren't someone else, then you aren't really you.' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 07:40 PM |
| 1 | Lack of UnderstandingLol, ok, I was trying to be reasonable up until this point, but that was an absolutely ridiculous statement, and I'm sure you're aware of that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 07:22 PM |
| 2 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?But again, how does that negatively affect you, in any way? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 07:17 PM |
| 3 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?ridiculous demands. Like not attacking them or misgendering them? I seriously don't see how this affects you at all, what do you have against Trans people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 06:54 PM |
| 3 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Holy hell, are you alright? I completely agree with you, but goddamn, no need to attack me. Yes, I have read 'Gender Trouble' like 5 years ago when I was in Grad school, I distinctly remember having a conversation about her views of biological differences between the sexes in my critical theory seminar, which is why I said; I'm fairly certain Not, 'I'm definitely certain and these are the facts'; another reason why I suggested reading her work. Like I'm sorry but I misspoke (wrote?) but I did ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 06:41 PM |
| 5 | Women, how often do you seriously date/have long term relationships with guys purely because of their looks?To be honest, not really, no. I kept a casual sexual relationship with a guy who I didn't really get along with for a short while (max. 2 months) during my undergrad, but even then we were in the same program and had stuff to talk about (mostly argue about). I don't think you can really separate sexual attraction and personality, and a 'relationship' based on looks alone is not going to last longer than the time it takes you to realise that the person you're seeing is incompatible with you; gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 06:01 PM |
| 5 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?Intersex/Hermaphroditism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Lack of UnderstandingSo you are blaming Women for the current lack of employment opportunities? I have to say this is somewhat refreshing from hearing people blame immigrants/mexicans/muslims/poles/jews/whoever-we-hate-today. Mat/Pat leave wouldn't be an issue, but then there would be a much larger societal issue, at least for 50% of the population; that being Women's autonomy and rights to higher education and access to the workforce and their own form of generating income. Women deserve the right to self reliance … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 03:50 PM |
| 10 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?If you had read those studies that I linked to my earlier post, you would see that they take into consideration the different hormonal cycles that female and male brains go through, and how those affect the structure and functioning of the brain; and they still come to the same conclusion, that we exist on a spectrum and that the human psyche is not black or white, i.e. strictly male or female. By the way, being Trans is not a mental illness, I will not discuss this issue with someone who is obv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Lack of UnderstandingYes, a company will have to pay for insurance, but as I said above that insurance covers quite a few things other than maternity and paternity leave; such as sick leave and any workers compensation which might arise from a workplace accident. Have you ever owned or operated an LLC or an LLP? If you did, and you intended to hire employees to work for you, you would know that no matter what the circumstances, you are going to need this type of insurance, as well as professional indemnity insurance… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Lack of UnderstandingI come from a country with both mandated Maternity and Paternity leave; meaning Men and Women take time off of work to care for their newborn children. The way that this cost is offset is through insurance, all companies must buy insurance which will cover an employees salary in case of mandated leave (including sick leave, maternity and paternity leave, long term leave caused by workplace accidents etc. ) The concept of women as nurturers comes from our views of traditional gender roles; I know… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 03:13 PM |
| 11 | How much of gender roles are socially constructed?I mean, I don't really think that this has a conclusive or straightforward answer; if you read Judith Butler's 'Gender Trouble' I'm fairly certain that she asserts that even the physical strength differences between Men and Women exist because of our socially constructed genders. She asserts that there are absolutely no biological differences at all between the genders. Personally I think that's a taking it a bit too far, especially considering some of the recent studies into how our brains work… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/01/17 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Is pointing out someone's Nazism hating them now? I mean, that's a literal historical fact, it's not hate, it's just the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?If you read my post, then you would see that I don't hate him, in fact I greatly enjoy his philosophy. Where did you decide that I was some sort of Marxist? Did I even mention Marx? Like, it seems to me that you're arguing with yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Are you kidding me right now? I have an MArch; my thesis was deconstructing phenomenology and it's impacts on how we 'dwell'. I don't need you to give me a lecture on a subject that I am literally an expert on, stop telling me my business. Heidegger was a member of the Nazi party, in fact he never denounced his Nazi associations which caused a huge amount of damage to his career post-WWII. I actually enjoy Heideggers rigorous phenomenology and I used that philosophy in my own design work, despit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:06 PM |
| 0 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?Lol, have you not been keeping track of what we're talking about? You seem confused. Honestly I can't even tell what you're talking about at this point, that was all just angry rambling to me; If you can't answer even a basic question about your proposed 'code' to control female behaviour and hypergamy, without throwing a tantrum (like a child) then maybe it's a bad idea; but I doubt you're capable of that level of self-examination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 08:42 PM |
| 0 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I was literally just asking for clarification about what you meant, because I honestly still don't understand why, or how, you could control for female sexual selection. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 07:06 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Prostitutes Are A Viable Sexual Strategy For Low Caliber MenBut then wouldn't that be the same for Women, who can theoretically get sex whenever they want, but not romantic validation? In this case I don't see any difference between the 'lowest' level of Men and the 'lowest' level of Women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Hahaha, some really 'un-PC' shit, like being a Nazi? Because Heidegger was literally a Nazi. I'm not even here to argue about whether or not I agree with Butler's stance on strength differences, or whether or not she's worse than Heidegger. I was asked to suggest some feminist literature that might introduce TRP or MRA's to 'what is feminism' and I did that. You can read it, you can not read it. At this point you guys are being so obstinate that I don't give a single flying fuck anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 06:52 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?That code of ethics being... what? That Women don't pursue the Men they are interested in sexually? Like I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make, you're just referencing some sort of vague 'code" and some equally vague 'consequences'. I'm asking you to explicitly explain how feminism is meant to create a 'code of ethics' that for some unknown reason will prevent the imagined hypergamy that TRP is so concerned about. I think the problem, and the fundamental breakdown that we're hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 06:49 PM |
| 0 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?What? that's not a strawman. A strawman is when you give the impression of refuting a persons argument, when in actuality you are refuting a separate argument not advanced by that person. I was simply asking you how feminism could control for hypergamy? Because I honestly don't see how that is possible; I already don't really agree with the notion that all Women marry up (or all Women are constantly yearning to rise higher via their sex partner, as was explained to me by TRP) but even if that we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 04:17 PM |
| 5 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?But you see how your suggestion, that Women leave the workforce, is just as ridiculous. For all Women to agree (which would never happen) to leave the workforce we would need some assurances that we would not be relegated back to invisible poverty like we were historically. I just think you have latched onto this idea, that we need to cut the workforce by forcing Women to opt out, without actually considering any of the implications for Women. I think the better question to answer is 'How do we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 03:22 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I don't think I'm necessarily 'upset' with female hypergamy, it's just the way it is. It's just when you realize that with a 99% probability the woman you marry probably considers you sexually unattractive and feels she deserves better, your outlook on marriage changes dramatically Lol, ok, after all that, you're not upset, fine. I'm really done with this, everything you've written is just conjecture and opinion. You found one study and latched onto it and somehow took it to the extreme conclusi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 03:18 PM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Betty Friedan that sparked the ‘Second Wave’, not Steinem. Steinem was writing about the same topics addressed in the Feminine Mystique over a year before it was released, but I honestly don't want to debate with you about a timeline, or about feminist critical theory in general; That's not why I started this discussion. The manosphere has completely different beliefs and goals, so there will never be any agreement with feminism. Also, the unrecognised female privilege that it identifies, is com… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 03:12 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?They think they deserve a partner at least as good as them, when in reality they are not that good in the first place. But how can you objectively decide that? I mean if he lovers her, and she loves him, why do you still consider one better than the other? I don't actually agree with your premise at all, that 80% of Women are only attracted to the top 20% of men, especially because we know that Women's preferences in sexual partners are actually, generally, much more varied than Men's. I also di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 02:32 PM |
| 3 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Alright, but why is your proposed solution only 'Women need to leave the workforce'? Could we just flip that switch and say 'Men need to leave the workforce?' I mean, clearly that's a pretty naive and offensive conclusion to this problem, so can you see how telling Women that they need to leave the workforce is equally naive and offensive? I think a lot of people are trying to address the overabundance of labourers; just most often it's in the context of racism (Those Muslims/Mexicans/Eastern Eu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 02:16 PM |
| 4 | Has feminism (specifically second wave and its contributing aspects) contributed to income inequality?Have you ever considered Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs? Yes, maybe those Womens most basic needs were being met by their Husband (i.e. Food, Water, Sex, Sleep, Shelter) however, when looking at the next level up, with the goal being happiness, two of the most important aspects towards self actualisation are accomplishment and financial security; none of those things were granted to Women before they were permitted to be a part of the workforce. It's very easy to write off those Women's hobbies as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 01:51 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?And ofcourse it was due to women contributing more to society as it progress that paved way for gender equality and that's something I support. I really don't want to be pedantic, but it wasn't like Women were incapable of contributing before WWI, it was just that they were disallowed; so yes, in a way, historically, Women have succeeded despite their gender. I think that is also the point that /u/skinnysweaty was trying to make, that when Women were disallowed from participating in basic elemen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 01:26 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?Alright, I've read your definition, but I still don't understand the point you're trying to make, or how that in anyway negates my point, which is; Everyone wants the best person who will settle with them, Men do this too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:35 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?it was men that has to defend their home and their women from invaders right? Do you think Women provide nothing to the war effort? My Grandmother was a nurse in London during WWII, she was awarded a medal for serving in a consistently bombed area for 2 years. Her mother built Lancashire bombers (a very dangerous job) throughout the entirety of the war. My MIL is actually a burns nurse in the British Military right now, she has been posted all over the world including Afghanistan. Just because W… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:30 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?What I have a problem with is feminism refusing to address and confront the issue. In fact I think it's the central failing of feminism. Women need a model of femininity that constructively controls and counterbalances the selfish side of women, just like men do too. Otherwise female empowerment and agency is like handing a kid dynamite. If you're going to empower people, you must also teach a sane model of responsibility to self and others. So Feminism should control Women's behaviour; and givi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:24 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?Well, that was the definition that kicked off this whole thread, so I'm sticking with it, rather than allowing you to keep changing ideas that were already set at the beginning of this discussion. Either way, the definition brings us back to the earliest point; Everyone wants the best person who will settle with them, Men do this too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:12 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 11:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women are complain about men valuing looks the most in women are unattractive themselvesYeah, except he's taken my post out of context. He failed to point out that I was responding to the point that 'A Woman's greatest asset is her attractiveness' full stop. I wasn't talking about how being attractive related to dating at all, just that the assumption that being beautiful is a Woman's greatest asset over everything else in her life; in which case I find the points I made to be completely valid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 11:53 AM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?hypergamy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 11:44 AM |
| 2 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?Why is it entitlement if the Man, who is ostensibly of 'higher value', agrees to marry the Woman of 'lower value'? I mean, it's just a Woman dating the best Man of her, and the same goes for the Man, dating the best Woman for him. Also, I resent the idea that all Women marry 'up'; I would argue that most people tend to marry 'adjacent' meaning within the same class as themselves, that includes Men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 11:39 AM |
| 2 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Gloria Steinem wasn't really a critical theorist, she was more of an activist and a journalist, though I would say that her writing should be given credit for helping to spark the 'Second Wave' feminist movement; though that's not really what we're talking about here, so I find it to be an inappropriate suggestion for examining contemporary feminism. The reason I suggested Judith Butler's 'Gender Trouble' was because it examines the view that gender is just a role that we play, and is separate f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 11:26 AM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I think you misunderstood what I'm actually standing against here; it's AWALT itself. I wouldn't resent someone saying an individual Woman is terrible, or wonderful, however I resent the classification that all Women are essentially the same. Not all women are 'like that' whatever 'that' means. You mention something vague about 'female nature' but can you really pinpoint what that is? Can you honestly give me one example of 'that', as in something 'all Women are'? Because from what I have gleane… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 10:58 AM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?You don't need to swing from one extreme to the other though. I know that the 'Women are wonderful' effect exists, it's a form of benevolent sexism which also 'others' Women. I'm just saying that there needs to be room of nuance when considering Women, especially if you're going to classify them as a whole group (AWALT). Women aren't just 'Wonderful' or 'Terrible' there is a middle ground called 'Human' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 10:32 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women are complain about men valuing looks the most in women are unattractive themselvesHint; When no one can understand the point you're making, then you're not making it clear enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:58 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Women are complain about men valuing looks the most in women are unattractive themselvesLol, u/gavinok did you just make a thread to call me ugly? I'm touched. My problem with Men primarily valuing Women for their looks is exactly the reason why this thread exists; you want to discredit me by calling me ugly. Why should my level of attractiveness have any bearing on my intelligence or opinions? Why is it, that calling me ugly a way to discredit me, in your eyes? In that thread I was responding to the point the OP made, which was; First thing first, a woman's body/appearance is her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:47 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.as far as attracting men goes When did it say that in the OP? Am I crazy or was I meant to infer something from that rambling garbage? That wasn't what this thread was about; it was about what is a Woman's most valuable asset, and how Women are somehow trying to force Men into finding ugly Women attractive for their own gains; that's literally what was said by the OP, so that's what I responded to. You're not the OP, so how do you know what they intended to discuss? I responded to the same quest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:18 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.No, once again (for the short bus) there's a difference between a fact and an opinion. A Fact is a statement that can clearly be proven, true or false. An Opinion is an expression of a person's individual feelings, and cannot be proven. Opinions can be based on the interpretation of facts, or they can be based on emotion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:11 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.I don't know, we literally can't answer that question; but I sure as hell know that you've made that assumption about them based on your own prejudices. Once again TRP, doing the 'math'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?Just because you don't agree with everything a theorist says, doesn't mean they have nothing valid to contribute; hell if that were the case then phenomenologists probably wouldn't prize Heidegger so highly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.If you have nothing constructive or intelligent to contribute, why say anything at all? You just make yourself look foolish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 09:06 AM |
| 3 | Can TheRedPill exists without the bitterness and anger, or are they required to "Wake" people up?I mean, you could try to read some feminist critical theory; a very basic introduction could be Judith Butler's 'Gender Trouble' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/16 12:08 AM |
| 0 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.Yeah, but that wasn't what this thread was about; from my understanding it was about what is a Woman's most valuable asset, and how Women are somehow trying to force Men into finding ugly Women attractive; that's literally what was said by the OP, so that's what I responded to. You're not the OP, so how do you know what they intended to discuss? I responded to the same question, in relation to dating (rather than just 'what is a woman's most valuable asset) in another thread; in this thread I wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 11:54 PM |
| 2 | What is the most important trait for a woman in the dating market?The problem is that the solution you're suggesting often doesn't work. Maybe mild insecurity can be solved with small encouragements, but more extreme cases come along with dangerous behaviours like Jealousy and a need to control your partner. Being clingy and protective is one thing, but insecurity also comes along with anger, violence, control and separation; that opens up a dangerous situation and can often lead to domestic violence. This is by no means restricted to Men, Women can just as ea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 11:34 PM |
| 1 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I don't even know why you'd care. I don't expect any woman to read RP and think its grand, (and in fact I don't know why any woman would read RP blogs anyway) and I completely understand why many would find it offensive. Its not really for female consumption. But it drives some of you crazy that men simply will NOT mentally conform, and anywhere men are going against the grain it MUST be stopped! It's not about getting you to 'mentally conform' I'm just trying to explain to you why thinking that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 11:15 PM |
| 7 | What is the most important trait for a woman in the dating market?You've never heard of a 'Stage 5 clinger'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 09:04 PM |
| 4 | What is the most important trait for a woman in the dating market?I think the biggest divide here, as in RP vs. BP/feminists/whatever, is their ultimate goal. If the ultimate goal of a Woman is just to get laid as much as possible, then yeah, good looks would be her most important trait, I don't think anyone could reasonably argue against that. However, generally the goal of dating (for most people) is to find a compatible, long-term partner, in which case I don't think good-looks are really her most important trait. Cultivating interests, education, hobbies a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 09:01 PM |
| 1 | How can physical beauty possibly be a woman's greatest asset?I do think that Women who aren't married by a certain age are pitied; I mean how many films are there about sad successful Women who 'just need to find the right Man', that message sucks because it implies that her accomplishments mean nothing when compared to having a husband. I mean, even that frigging new Amy Schumer movie, which a lot of feminists were praising, ends with her finding 'the right man'. This whole thread was about Women's beauty being their greatest asset. Full stop. Trying to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 08:18 PM |
| 2 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I just think that you're taking a terrible problem that you experienced in your first marriage, and then blaming literally all of woman kind for it through TRP; it returns to that same 'conspiracy theory' mindset that I was talking about earlier. Think of it this way, I assume you've got some association or you at least know of the Men's Rights movement, they are constantly harping on about 'Not all Men' when Women discuss issues with their lives, and we know this. Not all Men are rapists, not a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 08:02 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.Are you incapable of showing a person respect if you don't want to fuck them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 05:46 PM |
| 6 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I mean, I'm fairly sure most Women marry Men that they love, respect and enjoy sex with. Do you think that that is not the case? That seems like a fairly bitter/callous opinion that you have no basis for...? Sex is a fairly important aspect of a relationship (though I have heard of couples who don't have sex and still manage to have successful and loving relationships) I don't understand why they would get married if that fundamental, and clearly important (at least to him, in your opinion) aspe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 05:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.Oh Please, if you're going to challenge me then let's at least talk about the argument being presented, rather than this straw-man you just threw out. There is a difference between acknowledging that a person is attractive and saying that being attractive is that person's most valuable and important quality; and there is an even bigger difference between that situation and saying that an entire genders (remember 50% of the world's population, approximately 3.5 billion people) most valuable asset… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 05:19 PM |
| 4 | If it weren't for hypergamy, would you be a feminist?I don't understand this; because on one hand I see it claimed here all the time that all Women want to do is fuck Chad (a guy they are most certainly attracted to) and we keep missing out on all of you great successful nice-guys. But at the same time you're telling me that Women are also gold-diggers who only focus on successful men, whilst disregarding things like attraction. I'm just a bit confused because it feels like this switches based on the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 04:59 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Despite feminism trying to shame men into finding undesirable women attractive, all it's doing is making attractive to supermodel status more valuable.First thing first, a woman's body/appearance is her most valued asset. No other measure comes close and that can not be argued or hamstered. No, that's your own opinion of Women. You honestly believe that Women have nothing more important to contribute to our society than their looks; that's fine, it's sexist, but it's your opinion and not a fact. (As a side note, I think we need a post on what is a fact vs. what is your opinion, because it seems to me a lot of people are having trouble with thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 04:52 PM |
| 2 | How can physical beauty possibly be a woman's greatest asset?I am saying you just need to use your atraction and give these men a faint glimmer of hope and they will do the rest for you Lol, what? Do you think Women have some sort of laser beam that controls Men and gets them what they want? Women have a significantly harder time starting businesses and getting capital to start those businesses; this is why we have programs like micro-loans, because Women without education or collateral are often cut out of getting traditional bank loans. Beauty is not re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 01:51 PM |
| 1 | How can physical beauty possibly be a woman's greatest asset?/r/theydidthemath/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?Why does that have any bearing on someone's career? Here's a hint; Women have to work now, just like Men. No matter who you marry, unless it's like some millionaire, and no matter what your gender is, you're going to have to have a career and work for most of your life. So why is it that Women are still being told to make sacrifices in those careers, just to live a full life, whereas Men don't need to make those self-same sacrifices? Why do you believe that Women deserve less than Men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 09:28 AM |
| 4 | Q4Feminists: Do you think the anti-feminists in PPD have a good understanding of feminist terms and concepts?I think we can all agree that there is a sort of 'pussy pass' (definitely your term, not mine) however often these 'priviledges' are rooted in the paternalistic belief system that Women are incapable of taking care of themselves, or that taking care of Women will make them more pliant. I will admit that it can be fun to get a free pass to a club or something similar, but the saying 'there's no such thing as a free lunch' seems to ring true in these situations, as often these opportunities come w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/12/16 12:40 AM |
| 2 | If You Stopped Reading PPD and Using the Internet Tomorrow...I come and go from this forum; usually when I've got time off work and nothing to do I like to read and comment. If this didn't exist my life would probably continue on as usual. That being said, I am a feminist, so I do dedicate myself to feminist causes in my real life. I volunteer once a week at a DV shelter, which is really all I have time for right now, but it is a big part of my life and I think of it as the little bit of good that I do in this world. Also, as a Woman who works and is gene… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Are men bad at getting gifts? If so, why?I don't think everything has to be a gender issue; there are a lot of considerate and generous men, just like there are a lot of considerate and generous women. I think successful gift giving really comes down to careful consideration of the person you are giving to; if you're not a considerate person then it might be harder for you to give meaningfully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:42 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women What do you think of the implications of the book self made man?I've never read that book, but I think that a lot of this comes down to interpretation of privilege. I mean, I can come up with examples of the opposite of this exact situation; how about this VICE article written by a passing M to F transgendered Woman? She acknowledges that Women have some priviledges, even though those priviledges are often rooted in a patronising belief that Women somehow need to be 'taken care of'. She also talks about the different levels of privilege that we can experienc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women What do you think of the implications of the book self made man?I'm curious about the type of Woman that you're referring to. I feel like, when TRP talk about Women, they're really talking about beautiful, upper-middle class, white Women. What do you think it's like growing up a Woman of colour? Do you think that they have the same priviledges? What about fat Women? What about Women who don't fit the very limited scope of what a Woman 'should' be in society? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Is ''The Wall'' genetic or environmental?Ugh, my vagina just cringed at this comment. So creepy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Is ''The Wall'' genetic or environmental?Love this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/12/16 05:05 PM |
| 6 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?When did I say anything about being teased? stop putting words in my mouth and stop making assumptions about me. I said I was 'Made fun of' and I was 'derided' because of my height, i.e. I was bullied. But thanks for diminishing my experience; did I try to diminish yours? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 03:43 PM |
| 4 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?Well, either way, it still felt just as humiliating and hurtful. Although I don't think it's as bad as what short men go through, I do think that there is a pre-conception that Women should be small, and my height (which, being honest, I'm not even that tall) caught a lot of backlash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 03:22 PM |
| 11 | Q4 WOMEN attracted to men taller than them...do you mean slightly taller or do you mean extremely taller?I'm fairly tall for a Woman (5'10") and I've always dated guys who have been taller than me or at least of equal height. My husband is 6'5", however it wasn't an outright choice that because he was tall I wanted to be with him. I'd like to point out that the height standard does go both ways, I had a hard time dating in high school, I didn't even have my first boyfriend until I was in University, because I was so tall. I got made fun of, a lot, because of my height, and most often that derision … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?How can she control his attraction to her? Attractive people (even men) usually get further ahead than unattractive people, there are countless studies on the matter. You can make assumptions, but again, when you write those down they are libellous. And lol at your example, if you think being a manager at a movie theatre is 'the top' then you're aiming pretty low; and again that didn't actually help that woman's career because in the end she had to quit because of her relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?She dated him very briefly, after she had already been working as an executive for Google; and you could also argue that it damaged her career, I mean he demoted her before she moved to Yahoo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 12:04 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.Maybe, if you reexamined the way that you think of Women, more Women would be willing to have sex with you? Because right now, to me, you just sound bitter and angry, and you seem to bury yourself in fake 'facts' and assumptions about Womankind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:51 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.Hahaha, are you kidding me? This entire thread was about how Women are engaging in a lot of casual sex and it is somehow 'damaging' them. You guys can't say one thing, and then claim in the exact opposite in the next breath. Talk about arguing in bad faith! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.It's really a shame that you see yourself and your partner that way; I'm sure you could enrich your life by looking past your genitals the way most of the world does. Just because you perceive yourself as a walking dick, doesn't mean that I perceive myself and my value as deriving from my Vagina. Also, if that's all you got out of my comment then I'm fairly sure it is TRP who are arguing in bad faith in this thread. No one seems to want to reply to what I've written with anything remotely intell… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:46 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.Lot's of very talented and intelligent Women suck dick; why wouldn't they? Do you think that intelligence and a satisfying sex life are mutually exclusive? Edit: Also, talk about arguing in bad faith; I gave a genuine and well thought out reply to your CMV and this is your only comment? Ugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?Yes, I am aware of that, but why should taking parental leave affect a Woman's career? A lot of Women take a year off to raise their children until they are old enough to enter daycare and then return to work; more and more we're seeing men taking that time off as well, yet it is only Women who seem to have their careers suffer because of that lapse in time. I understand that in the United States a lot of Women don't even have that option, because there is no mandated parental leave at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:33 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?But she didn't. How can you make libellous assertions like that? What justifies that? Because she's a Woman and successful and also has a family? The assumption alone is super insulting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 11:30 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Sex cannot liberate women.Why do those two things have to be mutually exclusive? Why, in your opinion, do Women have to choose between partying and having sex in their college years (like the majority of Men do); and doing, as you say, "great things? (which a lot of Women already do, by the way.) I mean, what do you think feminists are doing? Sitting at home smoking pot and complaining about men? We wouldn't have accomplished anything at all if that were the case. Feminists have been organising and fighting against inequ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 12:34 AM |
| 8 | Men are more Prone to Violence than WomenIs that meant to be coherent? What point are you trying to make? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?I mean, did you read your comment when you wrote it? Because that's literally what you wrote. Some Women (not very many at all) may climb in their careers due to sex, but I doubt that those Women would make it to the position of CEO. I mean how do you even imagine that would happen in the real world? Sometimes I swear that you guys think women live in some sort of cartoon reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/16 12:03 AM |
| 5 | [Discussion] Do you agree that society wants to 'idealise' women because the thought of bad people being the primary carers of babies is deeply disturbing?I think the reason that we're shocked by violent female criminals is because there are so few of them. Over 90% of homicides were perpetrated by men in the United states over the past 30 years; and when a woman does kill, she is most often killing her own children or members of her family, which adds to the shock of the crime. I don't think it pedestalizes women to be shocked when they commit horrible crimes; it is shocking because it is contrary to how we have seen, and how we have come to expe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 07:31 PM |
| 3 | Guys are too easily rattled by a girl's standard rejection template: "I have a boyfriend"Her: "I have a boyfriend" You: "Well he's a very lucky guy, make sure to tell him next time you see him. I gotta say though, I feel really bad for him..." Her: "Why?" You: "Because he's gonna end up raising someone else's kids after I get you pregnant" Ugh, that's so cringe worthy it made my vagina shrink up inside of me. If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend leave her alone; it could be a polite way of rejecting you or she actually does have a boyfriend, either way you're overstepping the cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?Why is it that Women have to make that sacrifice to succeed, but men don't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:26 PM |
| 1 | Do you think a woman CAN climb to the top/close the gap if she sets her mind to it?This comment is so gross; do you know how deeply offensive it is to imply that whenever a woman is successful it is because of sex? Do you honestly think that women have nothing to contribute to the business world other than their vaginas? Ugh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/16 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Q4WOMEN: Would you die for your man?No, not at all; and I wouldn't expect my husband to die for me either, in fact I'd probably be furious with him if he did something like that. We live a fairly simple life though; we have a flat in the city and we both have stable jobs, I really can't imagine a situation where either of us would face a choice like this. Maybe it's different in America where you regularly have shootings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/16 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: ugly-but-hot and weird tasteYeah, I definitely experienced this in University; I would get huge crushes on guys who I wouldn't consider conventionally attractive, but for some reason the way that they carried themselves, their intelligence (smart guys do it for me), or their sense of humour would spark something. I think that it is this kind of nuance in female attraction that TRP is missing; yes maybe I'm only attracted to 20% of the men I meet, but they aren't all ripped male models (In fact I find a muscular body to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/12/16 01:12 AM |
| 3 | What if? Ultimate Slut ShamingI'm sorry, are you going through a psychotic episode right now? I'm seriously asking, do you need help? because what you wrote reads like the insane ramblings of a barely coherent lunatic. This post makes absolutely no sense; you don't advocate for slut shaming, but you want to make women who have had sex before marriage wear black dresses at their weddings (through some sort of obscure pranking system...?), which you think would cause our social fabric to collapse. Yeah, it's too late for this,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/16 12:19 AM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Well, glad I don't live in Texas then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/16 09:19 AM |
| 6 | By your own estimates, what percentage of single moms are in that position because of their own bad decision making?I regularly volunteer at a woman's DV shelter, and I can tell you exactly why so many women end up as single mothers (at least in the UK, the US is probably similar, or even worse because of the slow and systemic whittling down of abortion care for poor women and women of colour) Women, especially Women of colour, who come from low income backgrounds, are given very little opportunity in our society to succeed. Low income women, and WOC's are almost the lowest rung on our little social totem pol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 07:00 PM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...It 'ridiculously dehumanizing' to expect you to behave with some self respect? So if you don't respect yourself - how are we to believe you are capable of being respectful to us? I fully admit that TRP says to not invest any real time or resources in women who are undeserving. Its just a simple matter of self-preservation on our parts. Women who are wild and untrustable don't deserve anything more from us but a pump and dump - if that. Do you expect us to prostrate ourselves in hazardous relatio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 06:04 PM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...So are you saying that TRP advocates for ruining it's members ability to 'bond' in a relationship (not that I honestly believe any of this, just trying to understand) by fucking a bunch of women? What if a TRP member wants to LTR a woman, or finds their 'unicorn'? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 09:04 AM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...hahahaha, this is so ridiculously dehumanising it's unbelievable, you guys always argue that you DO see women as individuals and human beings, but obviously not. Women, to you, are vaginas first, and humans second; before knowing them you have to determine their worth (based on how many dicks have been in and around her vagina). All people are more than their genitals, they have lives and purposes that exist other than fucking another person with working genitals (except for TRP, who have decide… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/16 09:02 AM |
| 3 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Lol, I actually can't tell if you're joking or not, which is my cue to get out of this forum! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 05:37 PM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Great, what an absolutely disgusting sentiment, not at all true though, thank god. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 03:06 PM |
| 4 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Women are more than just vaginas, and vaginas aren't holes through which things like value, respect and worth travel. Do you determine your value through your dick? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 02:38 PM |
| 1 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...I'm not attracted to women with extremely large breasts, but that doesn't mean I think those women are damaged or struggle in relationships because of them. That is a completely false equivalence; what I was saying is that you find the behaviour of promiscuous women to be a turn off. You don't like when women behave promiscuously, and so it colours your opinion of the women who behave differently than the preset notions you have about femininity and womanhood. You aren't attracted to them, and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 12:54 PM |
| 10 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Ah yes, of course. Women are children/AWALT while Men are our compassionate paternalistic keepers; we're obviously just a bunch of ungrateful whores. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 12:19 PM |
| 3 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...But isn't your bias colouring your view? You're not attracted to promiscuous women, so you would (consciously or unconsciously) come to the conclusion that their promiscuity damages their relationships (classic 'damaged woman' trope). But what about promiscuity in Men then? Does Male promiscuity damage the 'bond' in a relationship as well? Why is it only female promiscuity that TRP seems to have a problem with? What about people who are in polyamorous or 'open' relationships? It just seems like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 12:18 PM |
| 2 | Why did I always hear guys say "I'll give it a try with her, she's easy?"Sorry, you can't stop this ocean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:42 AM |
| 1 | are women naturally predisposed to believe the apex fallacy?They don't ever give the mom a break from the kids. You've just proved the point of every feminist here. Why does a Dad not take 50% of childcare duties? Why is it 'giving mom a break'? This is the bare BS that women are faced with, like the assumption that we will be primary caregivers or that our careers aren't as important as our husband's. I also love that mowing the lawn and making repairs is on your list, like do you have to consistently do those things everyday? Every hour of everyday (li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:37 AM |
| 1 | are women naturally predisposed to believe the apex fallacy?Most women work, you know that right? If we really wanted to look at a gender-flipped scenario the following might happen; Men taking on more traditional roles at home like taking on the responsibilities of cooking and cleaning and getting the kids washed and ready for school and carpooling and organising play dates etc., doing all of that while ALSO working for less money. Yeah, you might start complaining too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:30 AM |
| 1 | are women naturally predisposed to believe the apex fallacy?Relaxers and keratin treatments ain't a joke! Straight up, apparently there is evidence that Keratin treatments carry a high risk of causing cancer; now work with those chemicals 5 days a week for 25 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:23 AM |
| 4 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...Ugh, bro you need to work on your analogies, this was an unreadable mess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:08 AM |
| 3 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...I guess my question would be how is that quantifiable? Like this is all fine, but you're literally just guessing at how promiscuous people 'bond' (way to keep it vague) with others. How do you measure the depth of a bond between two people? How do you measure promiscuity? These are all variables which have no control and no real answers, so I don't understand how you're coming to these conclusions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:04 AM |
| 8 | What EXACTLY and WITH SPECIFICITY does "has trouble bonding mean" and...But why is that pattern only for Women then? Why is it that TRP consistently argues that promiscuity in Women will hinder bonding in a relationship; what about Men who do the equivalent? Promiscuity in Men establishes that same pattern of behaviour, so why is it that promiscuity is only derided by TRP when it occurs in Women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 11:01 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men have far more serious societal issues than womenI read your point, and I do agree with you that Men face a lot of serious inequities in our society, however I think that social media is skewing your perception of feminism into some sort inept gag-reel. The feminist movement (those who are actually involved in feminist organisations, and gender studies) aren’t really focused on the issues you just raised. A few of the issues that you're discussing are 'social-media' hotbed issues; mansplaining, manspreading etc. These are issues that are share… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 10:36 AM |
| 1 | CMV: WGTOW is the best way to go for many women. Bothering with men is not worth it.Hahahahahahaha, ok this is going too far. I always see people denying obvious things like 'Facts' and 'What is the truth' on here, but honestly, this was the dumbest thing I've ever read on this forum. Did you even bother to google the Hapsburgs before you wrote that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 09:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Claims of Bigotry are an Anecdotal fallacy and hence inconclusiveMost people don't believe they are bigoted, mainly because the realisation that you are racist/homophobic/sexist can sometimes be challenging. It takes a lot to acknowledge that you have done or said something that is stupid and hurtful, the biggest people are those who are able to learn from their mistakes and apologise sincerely (none of that 'I'm sorry you were offended' BS). The person in this scenario has said something that is bigoted, the fact that this person only caught 10 black people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 01:43 AM |
| 3 | CMV: WGTOW is the best way to go for many women. Bothering with men is not worth it.Have you ever heard of the Hapsburgs? Probably not, even though they used to rule most of Europe, there's a pretty big reason why they aren't around anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 01:20 AM |
| 3 | Do you believe that men and women are different?Um, have you never heard of a lipstick lesbian? Not all lesbians are butch, not everyone is going to fit into the neat little boxes that you've made up in your mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 01:08 AM |
| 2 | Do you believe that men and women are different?I think most people would acknowledge that men and women are different overall, however those differences exist on a spectrum; Here's a link to an article explaining the study and it's outcomes, the actual study was published in 'Nature'. Very basically the outcome of this study found that Women and Men, overall, have differences in the way our brains respond to problems, however those differences aren't black and white. We can all fall anywhere on the spectrum, it just happens that statisticall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/16 01:01 AM |
| 1 | How do you believe unattractive men should find happiness and fulfillment?No, you're wrong. I'm linking an article here which explains the study to the layman, if you want to read further the actual study, and an explanation on how they compared NRY to mtDNA, is in a link at the end of the article. Seriously, I'm calling you out on your BS assertions (which you have provided absolutely no proof for btw); If you want to spout crap remember that we all have access to google. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 03:08 PM |
| 1 | How many Red Pillers here associate with the MRA? How many Blue Pillers here associate with Feminism? Either way, please elaborate why.Wait, are you asking current post-modern feminists to explain the inaction of the past generation of second wave feminists? Feminism, as a movement, evolves as feminist critical theory, gender studies and post-modern philosophy evolve. Did you consider that back in the 60's and 70's feminists weren't focused on problems facing men, because they were still facing a huge number of inequalities themselves? Now that we are approaching a more equitable society you will find that many feminists are ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 01:06 PM |
| 1 | "Friends before lovers": Do you agree or disagree with this?Yeah, this is totally normal. I know my (now) husband and I were 'flirty friends' for almost a year before we hooked up. All our mutual friends knew we were into each other, but I had just come off a break up when we first met and I didn't want to jump back into a relationship right away, and he likewise had good reasons for not wanted to be in a relationship when we were friends. It worked out because we were already fairly close when we started dating. That was 6 years ago! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 12:51 PM |
| 0 | [Q4ALL] What is toxic and non-toxic masculinity?More like; "It's ok to be comfortable with your emotions" "Just be content with living a good life" "You have nothing to prove about your worth" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 11:59 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Catcalling is a valid sexual strategyWhy does that make any difference? It's still just as disgusting and obtuse behaviour whether he was drunk or sober. Are you saying that being drunk excuses people's actions? You're not a woman, you've never experienced it and of course you're not seeing it because it happens in a split second! A guy says something dehumanising at you in the street, or literally anywhere really, sometimes they come up behind you and whisper it in your ear (which is terrifying, as well as disgusting, absolutely m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 11:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Catcalling is a valid sexual strategyhahahaha, what are you talking about? I live in the UK and have been catcalled many times. I've heard some absolutely disgusting ones too, once a lad in Liverpool yelled at me "Show us where you bleed from!" probably one of the most disgusting sentences ever yelled in my direction. Just because you've never experienced it (I don't know if you're a guy or a girl) doesn't mean it doesn't happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 11:37 AM |
| 1 | How do you believe unattractive men should find happiness and fulfillment?Although men are more likely to have developmental disorders of the brain (what's your point here anyways? Should we change genetics? like.... what do you want?!) the number of women diagnosed with Autism is much less than the number of women living with autism. The way that Autism is determined was established by researching only Male patients and (surprise surprise) it has been discovered that autism manifests itself in Women differently than Men, so it is much much harder to diagnose. Most wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 11:10 AM |
| 1 | How do you believe unattractive men should find happiness and fulfillment?Explain to me why 60% of all men who have ever lived did not reproduce then. Ok, I just looked up this statistic, because in my mind it was like 'no way, just another bullshit TRP statistic with no proof'. What I found was actually very interesting, this figure was determined by researching mitochondrial DNA, which is only passed down via the maternal line. The study found that 40% of Men reproduced, compared to 80% of women; 8000 years ago. 8000 goddamned years ago; are you actually trying to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 11:04 AM |
| 3 | CMV: If a woman is not attracted to you, then she will mention a boyfriend.Well it's kind of strange that you don't remember any part of the conversation after she mentioned her boyfriend. Are you sure you weren't trying to come on to her? It's not normal to check out of a conversation after someone mentions that they have a significant other. It sounds to me like she mentioned her boyfriend because it was relevant to the conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/16 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Are tactics encouraged by TRP sexually coercive?I would agree, that 'If you really loved me you'd blow me" isn't coercive in a criminal sense; however I'm fairly sure that everyone on this board can agree that it's still wrong. Why would anyone want to fuck with a 'threat' like that hanging over their heads? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Are tactics encouraged by TRP sexually coercive?Actually, at least 3 of the examples given would definitely be considered 'psychological coercion', here's a definition of coercion (I got it off of Wikipedia because I'm lazy, but I feel like it will be fine) "In law, coercion is codified as a duress crime. Such actions are used as leverage, to force the victim to act in a way contrary to their own interests. Coercion may involve the actual infliction of physical pain/injury or psychological harm in order to enhance the credibility of a threat.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 10:10 AM |
| 3 | Are tactics encouraged by TRP sexually coercive?Lol, that's the best "I know you are, but what am I?" I've ever heard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/16 09:29 AM |
| 2 | Why do so many men, especially the younger ones, seem to prefer meek, submissive women?Pg. 13 of this study as society becomes more equitable between the two genders, so does sexual partner selection. So yeah, currently, in America, women might generally pair with Men who fall above them in the social hierarchy; but when you eliminate gender privilege and take the same study in a more equitable society (in this case Norway) that difference disappears. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 05:49 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Women, if you want men to get along with you again the only thing you have to do is deal with feminismI mean, you're right, Feminism isn't about 'Equality', it's about 'Equity', which is where I can see that some of this confusion, anger and resentment comes from. Equality assumes that we all started out from the same starting position, that we were all born equal and so should have equal opportunities for success as we grow. However, it's fairly clear that that we are not all born equal, things like Gender, Race, Class and Sexuality can all affect the way that we are perceived and thus ‘valued’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 05:26 PM |
| 5 | Do you feel that men should ditch the idea of monogamy since we "don't own anyone?"Uh, do you think monogamous relationships are equivalent to ownership over a Woman? Monogamy is definitely not synonymous with ownership, it's a mutual agreement that two people come to because they decide that being monogamous would be best for their relationship. If you think a relationship is equivalent to ownership over a woman, then I would seriously urge you to reconsider your own thoughts on Women as well as what is a healthy relationship. You don't get to control another persons actions,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 01:29 PM |
| 3 | TRP humanizes women, even though detractors (like TBP) often criticize TRP for dehumanizing women. It makes little senseWhy would that make any difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 01:13 PM |
| 4 | TRP humanizes women, even though detractors (like TBP) often criticize TRP for dehumanizing women. It makes little senseYes, but TRP sees all women as innately flawed in the same way; women are consistently called 'vapid children' on this forum. The point is that everyone is flawed, but we all have our own unique flaws. Not all women are vapid, AWALT isn't a thing, just like AMALT (all men are like that) isn't a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/16 01:08 PM |
| 2 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 06:01 PM |
| 3 | There is no long term benefit in women raising beauty standards for societyHahahaha, "I'm not a parent and I have absolutely no experience, but It's definitely easy as hell" that's basically what you just said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 05:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Lol, that's fine. Good luck choosing 'dangerous liberty' and silently tolerating sexual harassment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 05:11 PM |
| 3 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?AWALT isn't a real thing, it's something that TRP made up so that they can excuse female behaviour as frivolous, rather than actually engaging with women and womanhood on a serious and human level. So, nothing about this contradicts AWALT, because I don't regard AWALT as a thing. Like I said before, women are individuals, and will go through individual changes. This one particular teenage girl's actions can't be taken to represent all of Womanhood, just like any one man's behaviour can't be take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 05:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?In what way are you choosing 'Dangerous Liberty'; what you're arguing for here is to silently endure sexual harassment, are you aware of that? I'm not asking anyone to protect my feelings, when did I mention my feelings? You're the one who got butt hurt when I called you old, but that's honestly what your opinions are, they are antiquated and old. Again, I will repeat myself once more, it is not 'entitled' to expect to not be sexually harassed, and it's not 'entitled' to get angry and stand up f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 05:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Ha, lol ok. You keep tolerating sexual harassment and condoning cat-calling and I'll keep standing up for myself and telling you you're wrong. Here's some serious talk, it's not 'entitled' to expect men not to shout at you or intimidate you in the street, or in the office, or at home, or anytime you're living your goddamned life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Lol, alright. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 03:11 PM |
| 4 | Facebook husband shamingLol, love this RP logic. 'Why are all women like this?' but also 'Who are you to speak for all women?!!" That person was giving you a valid reason for why these women, whether it's right or not, bitch about their husbands on the internet. If you can't take that on board and consider it, then why are you on a debate forum? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 02:38 PM |
| 1 | "She's not yours, it's just your turn" is a good way for RP-inclined guys to better themselves by adopting abundance mentality and realizing that young women of today just want to have fun and experience sexual variety.But things like compromise and discussion between Men and Women do already happen in normal relationships...? If they didn't then we would't have things like families or marriage. Also I'm fairly sure that people who don't look like Greek Gods participate in healthy, loving relationships. I mean, people do cheat (both men and women) but the majority of people don't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 02:23 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Ah, I see, so you imagine yourself as some sort of sociopath, are you like 15? Well, heads up, the law still applies to you, and right or wrong, the law is what sets our morality in this society. You probably shouldn't go around killing women, even if you're capable of it, because if you think that the law is stupid, then you're too stupid not to get caught. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?So you're saying that you aren't in control of your actions? That some natural drive written into your DNA forces you to say obscene things at Women? That your genetics prevent you from behaving appropriately as set out by our society? No. If you are above the age of 18 you're an adult, and will be expected to behave appropriately. You can't excuse this type of behaviour with vague mentions of genetics; most men manage to not sexually harass women at work, they seem perfectly capable of overwrit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 02:05 PM |
| 5 | There is no long term benefit in women raising beauty standards for societyA lot of Women are interested in Fashion and Beauty for reasons other than Men. You know that right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:57 PM |
| 4 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?Is the Dos Equis guy your model for manhood? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:56 PM |
| 6 | AWALT in the Family: Am I seeing too much RP in my sister... who's still young, and has some real developmental issues?Wait, would you have preferred it if people still called her 'goblin' ? It seems to me that you're upset your sister, who is 16, is acting like a 16 year old girl. This isn't an example of AWALT (which is BS anyways, and hopefully you'll figure that out as you meet more women) but just an example of a regular, 16 year old girl, growing up. Maybe you should focus on being a nicer, better, brother to her; that might help build her confidence and then she might not rely so heavily on guys to assert… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:55 PM |
| 11 | There is no long term benefit in women raising beauty standards for societyWhat..? This is just nonsensical. Women put off having kids usually because they are worried about their careers/the cost of having children/giving their children a stable environment to grow up in, I think the concern with 'ruining their bodies' is pretty low, or even non-existent, as a reason to not have children. Women aren't a hive mind, we can't just decide as a collective to stop being interested in beauty, fashion and make-up. I think a lot of the obsession with beauty and fashion for Wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Women are unable to be there for their sick/injured spouse.Why do you think women owe loyalty to other women? Do men owe loyalty to other men? We represent 50% of the worlds population, we are REAL people (something I'm emphasising because your comment makes me think that you don't realise that), we don't work as one giant hive mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Alright, let's do a little experiment here. You start sexually harassing Women at work, and then use this excuse when you get fired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:03 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Even if you could kill a woman with your bare hands (have some mighty dark thoughts about ourselves don't we!) there are laws in place that would punish you for that crime. We have set out a society that forbids killing, even though it could be argued as being 'natural'. We have a society that forbids rape, even though there could be an argument for it being 'natural'. Humans have turned away from their 'natural' state of being a long time ago (like thousands of years ago, way to miss the boat g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 01:01 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?I would like to point out to you that the computer on which you typed that antiquated response was not natural either. Humans have surpassed they're 'natural' behaviours hundreds of thousands of years ago, it is the reason why we have advanced so far; driving a car isn't 'natural' but I'm sure you still do it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 12:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Yes they did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 12:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4 working woman of this sub ?Oh, you mean you remember when Women just shut up and let you yell vulgar things at them? Wow, you must be old. Not wanting insulting things said to you is not 'entitled'; it's entitled to think that you can say whatever you want to a person without them reacting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/16 12:51 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: The Cat-Calling DebateDo you genuinely believe that Men are catcalled, or have sexual violence directed at them, more than women? Because what we're talking about isn't something that personally happened to you, we're not talking about the time you were personally victimised, but rather the overall trend of Women being subjected to catcalling and sexual harassment at a much greater rate than Men. If you genuinely believe the opposite, then I have nothing to say to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: The Cat-Calling DebateOn behalf of all Women, thank you for ignoring us, I would hate for that type of pedantry and narcissism to be directed at anyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 01:33 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: The Cat-Calling DebateIt happens a lot in the UK as well, I have no clue what u/groovyEFS is talking about. I live in the UK and get catcalled constantly; worst one I ever heard was in Glasgow, some ned yelled "Show us where you bleed from" at us, which is probably the most disgusting sentence I've ever heard, especially when you combine it with his disgusting weegee accent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 01:28 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: The Cat-Calling DebateI would respond to this by asking how Women are meant to make the distinction between 'the kinds of men who participate in certain unpleasant behaviours'? There is literally no way to tell! When Women say 'ugh, I hate when Men catcall' they're not saying that all men are cat callers or sexual harassers, but it is true that catcalling and sexual harassment are predominantly done by Men and inflicted upon Women. I've never been cat called or sexually harassed by a Women, but I've definitely receiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What books/sources have you used to develop and bolster your views on sociosexual dynamics?Maybe you should try reading some books written by Women? That would probably give you a different perspective, and maybe some insight into the way Women feel about gender division. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What books/sources have you used to develop and bolster your views on sociosexual dynamics?Did you notice how you didn't actually site any books or studies that you have been reading? What exactly have you been reading? Because it sounds to be like you still exist in an echo chamber. Maybe you should look at some feminist critical theory, I would recommend 'Second Sex' by Simone de Beauvoir, it was written in the 1930/1940's so take some of her opinions with a grain of salt, but I think she really sums up the feeling of being 'Other' in a society where your gender makes up 51% of the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/16 12:41 PM |
| 0 | Why do men push for, encourage or even ‘demand’ early or casual sex only to later demonize or punish women for giving in?So when you're 'spinning plates' (a disgusting term) do you let those women know that they are no more than 'plates' to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/16 12:45 PM |
| 0 | Do you believe that (in general) women are treated differently than men? Do you believe that (in general) how people are treated influences their behavior?I hate to break it to you, If you answered 'yes' to both of those questions you could also be a feminist; those were both issues discussed by Simone De Beauvoir in her existential analysis of womanhood 'Second Sex' which I believe was published in the 1940's, but glad to see you're discovering it now! You claim that 'Women are treated differently to men, and so that affects their behaviours'; that's a very basic existential theory that can be summarised as 'existence precedes essence'. I would a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/16 12:40 PM |
| 0 | The 15 Things Men Want From Women...IMHOYou know saying something is a fact doesn't make it so, right? Like how could you even quantify that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/16 05:32 PM |
| 9 | The 15 Things Men Want From Women...IMHOThat's just called life, don't you think other people, men and women, have had their hearts stomped on? Mostly everyone goes through a few shitty partners before they find someone who shares their idea of what a good relationship is. Stop pretending to be a martyr, you're not hard done by, no one owes you anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/16 11:35 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women want women only spaces?I know it's not what many people want to hear, but it just comes down to what women, feminists and allies have been doing for more than 100 years now. Raising awareness for Women's safety issues; fighting to have rapes and sexual attacks properly investigated and prosecuted; standing up for other women you see being intimidated or harassed in public; striving for equality in the business world by getting mandated equal pay and mandated maternity and paternity leave; educating young men about wha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/16 11:41 AM |
| 4 | Why do you think women want women only spaces?I think to understand the differences between "men only spaces" and "women only spaces" you really have to consider the context of what you're asking. Women only spaces often exist with the idea of safety or comfort in mind. You see a lot of proposals for women only gyms, or subway trains or breast feeding rooms, because these are all situations where Women are more vulnerable to being attacked or harassed by problematic (mostly) male behaviour. Women only spaces are not about exclusion, they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/16 11:25 AM |
| 1 | Tampons and taxesWomen's sanitary products (including tampons, pads, etc.) also have a luxury tax (17.5%) added in certain countries in Europe. Some shops have started selling these products with absolutely no tax, and are instead choosing to eat the cost of the tax, because of the attention that it has gotten. There was a plan to eliminate tax on women's sanitary products in the EU, to make a zero taxed item, however that all fell apart thanks to Brexit. I think in the UK, however, tampons are only taxed at a f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women What do you like and dislike about being a woman?I got pregnant while on the copper IUD as well, though it was an ectopic pregnancy and not-viable; honestly I liked the copper IUD when I had it, but it made my periods worse. I have Implanon now, the hormone dose is so low that it doesn't affect me, I barely have a period at all now and I only have to change it every 3 years or so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/16 02:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4All - How do you view /r/redpillwives vs rpwo?As a woman, and a wife, I might not share the same values in my marriage as Red Pill Wives; however I recognise that they are women making the choice to live their lives and their marriages the way that they are most comfortable. If a woman makes the decision to follow TRP in their marriage, then that is their own choice; I actually have found myself agreeing with a few points that red pill wives make, while generally disagreeing with TRP lifestyle. I generally stay away from both forums though,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 04:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Demographic Survey1) 27 2) Mixed race - 2/4 Ashkenazi Jew, 1/4 black african, 1/4 white polish. 3) Canadian originally, now I live in Scotland. 4) Married. 5) Raised Jewish, now atheist 6) UMC 7) UMC 8) Masters degree in Architecture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 11:13 AM |
| 5 | Do you feel that rejecting a man puts you in danger?Yeah, I've experienced being attacked for a rejection, I've posted it before in 'askreddit' but I don't think I've ever posted it here, but this is the short version; Basically I worked in a bar during uni, this regular at my bar kept getting very handsy with me asking me out, making all sorts of lewd remarks about my body. I rejected him, and then ignored him and stopped serving him. A few nights later he tried to attack me (and possibly rape me, but it didn't get that far) in the alleyway besi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/16 10:56 AM |
| 1 | Woman claims to be raped not once, but twice by the same football player. PPD, what are your thoughts on this?This woman was obviously, violently raped, she was bruised and bloody and had damage to her teeth (!?) by the end of their initial encounter, which she barely remembers because she was passed out. Nothing about that leads me to believe that it was in any way consensual. It's actually terrifying that anyone would try to twist this into being a consensual encounter. Let me ask you this; when you have consensual sex do you cause such physical harm to your partner that they have to seek medical assi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/16 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Should Paternity Leave be as standard as Maternity Leave?Having mandated maternity leave, without mandated paternity leave, is sexist and damaging to both genders. It is damaging for women, because it basically forces a woman to take on the brunt of child rearing in the earliest stages of the babies life, and it forces them to put their careers on hold for an extended period of time, which has been shown to have a great impact on future career growth and contributes greatly to the 'pay gap'. Not having mandated paternity leave is damaging to Men for m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/16 11:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Increasing more arrests for rape would be beneficial for men and especially TRP men.The capacity to perform harm isn't a red herring, it's the truth; I am absolutely not going to entertain your racist train of thought. Race does not contribute to how innately violent a person is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/16 09:01 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Increasing more arrests for rape would be beneficial for men and especially TRP men.Ok, but you said Buddhist countries are not violent, I was pointing out that you were actually very wrong. Do you want some examples of Buddhists being violent? How about Myanmar? or the Ashokavadana massacre; weren't 18,000 jains killed by buddhists? How about the anti muslim riots that have consistently happened in Sri-Lanka? Violence happens all over the world, and is perpetuated by all types of people; the world isn't made up of "violent people" and "non-violent people" it's made up of peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 07:22 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Increasing more arrests for rape would be beneficial for men and especially TRP men.Uh, if you think buddhist countries aren't violent, then I would direct you to google 'Cambodia'... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/16 06:55 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill makes the best case for assuming that all men are rapistsWell you must really hate me, because I'm a 'libtard', minority, woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 10:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill makes the best case for assuming that all men are rapistsThe only time you can be brave is when you're afraid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:51 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Red Pill makes the best case for assuming that all men are rapistsThat doesn't make racism acceptable, or preclude you from being called out as a racist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:50 PM |
| 1 | Wait a second. Aren't most women **essentially** looking for a man that **is** physically and mentally superior to them?no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:32 PM |
| 9 | It's not so much the 'misogyny' that BPers are concerned about. It's the inconvenience of having female sexual strategy exposed.How is being a single mothers winning? And what city do you live in where you have such a huge proportion of children being raised only by women. Where are all the men going? Are they just disappearing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:26 PM |
| 6 | It's not so much the 'misogyny' that BPers are concerned about. It's the inconvenience of having female sexual strategy exposed.Uh, men hate that as much as women (I.e. Not All Men!) People don't like their individuality being boxed in my stereotypes, and rightly so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: what makes you interesting? What are you passionate about?I am passionate about cities and infrastructure and urban exploring. I travel a lot, and my favourite thing to do is get into the hidden and unexplored parts of a city and to photograph those spaces. I've been lucky enough to live on 3 different continents and to explore the whole world and I'm only 27! I'm an architect, so that's my passion. As for hobbies, in my spare time I do a lot of drawing and painting, I like to read and also (obviously) browsing reddit. For longterm projects I buy old b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Men are more attracted to women that are interesting, extroverted and passionateI think to be interesting to ANYONE (men or women) you need to cultivate passions. No one wants to spend a huge portion of their time with someone who has no interests; they're just not interesting, what would you talk about? That being said, I don't think cultivating interests in order to attract the opposite sex is the way to go about it. It's important to do what you want, and to genuinely be into a hobby/activity, rather than picking something up because the person you like is into it (hint;… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 01:58 PM |
| 1 | CMV: casual sex isn't difficult for the average man to get.Women can wear whatever they please; Do you think it's your right to dictate what other people wear? I seriously doubt that their asses and tits are hanging out the way you describe, you're obviously over exaggerating in a disgusting way. And sure, I'll cop, more and more often you see the objectification of men in advertising, similar to how women are objectified (though it's not the ridiculous and inescapable amount that women face); and those girls were not "training" (as if women are some so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 01:39 PM |
| 1 | CMV: casual sex isn't difficult for the average man to get.Alright; but you also don't seem to have put a huge emphasis on sex the way a lot of TRP does. For myself, and maybe for you, casual sex is not a bit deal at all; but for a lot of people on TRP sex is the be all and end all of existence. This drive to be a sex haver is really tied into the idea that "Men" (or at least the idea of what a man is) are sex havers, and "Men" who don't get sex aren't masculine or "alpha" (isn't the ultimate goal of TRP to be alpha?) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 01:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: casual sex isn't difficult for the average man to get.Women aren't trying to arouse you, they're just trying to live their lives, those advertisers ARE trying to arouse you, so that you buy more shit. That victoria's secret lingerie ad is a perfect example of how women are objectified, and the idea of sex as a commodity is reinforced in men. So yeah, you're proving my point for me, cheers! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/16 01:05 PM |
| 4 | CMV: casual sex isn't difficult for the average man to get.Yeah, but did you ever consider why it's such a BIG DEAL to not be having sex? There is a societal pressure for Men and Women to behave a certain way, this is called the patriarchy. The patriarchy dictates that in order to be considered a "Man" you have to be strong and virile; when men don't feel they are living up to that standard they feel emasculated and resentful. Casual sex isn't anything more than sex, which is why it's no big deal to people who regularly have it (like you said); however … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 03:24 PM |
| 3 | CMV: casual sex isn't difficult for the average man to get.I think the main problem with this entire premise is the idea that sex is something to "get" that will somehow increase a man’s value (and decrease a woman’s) Vagina’s are not receptacles for respect; you should not respect a man more because he’s having casual sex, and you should not respect a woman less for the very same thing. Women choose their partners, Men choose their partners; casual sex is something that two people (or more!) do together, for pleasure with no romantic attachments. That … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Casual sex isn't that easy for men to get, and this is a good thingOk, obviously this can't be taken seriously as a suggestion; even the way this is worded it's clearly 1. not well thought out and 2. completely batshit insane. The stats about male virginity that you've posted aren't actually very shocking, and if you posted the stats on female virginity when entering college from the same reported study (which you somehow magically forgot) you would see that they are also fairly equivalent; 20% of women who were beginning college also reported being virgins. Yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: weed and sexI wouldn't take Woody Allen as a role model for how to treat women, I mean he married his daughter, and he's been accused of sexually assaulting his other daughter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 08:41 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: weed and sexMy husband and I smoke weed regularly. I grew up in a place where weed isn't really stigmatised the way it is in the UK, so I don't really get that paranoia or insecurity. I definitely think that it makes sex better. I wouldn't describe the effect as "female viagra" though; you still have to be in the mood for sex before you smoke, I think there's just something about weed that makes you feel closer to your partner, and less inhibited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/16 08:38 AM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] What is misogyny?I think at this point you're just being obstinate, and you're purposely misreading what I am saying. I never said that you being a misogynist meant you hate women; in fact I assert that the opposite could be true in my earlier post. You are, however, a misogynist. You believe women are inherently lesser than men, that is literally the definition of misogyny, I don't need to "logically deconstruct" this for you, it's pretty straight forward. Look, if you want to think women are lesser than men, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 05:49 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] What is misogyny?Exactly, and you're free to your opinion, but you know that what you have expressed is a misogynistic view; because you think that women are inherently lesser than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 02:40 PM |
| 4 | [Q4BP] What is misogyny?Do you agree that children are given less agency because they are seen as being incapable of a level of personal responsibility that would allow them to be full members of society? Can't you see how equating women to children indicates a level of contempt that can be interpreted as misogyny? Or do you think it's not insulting to call a grown adult a child? I didn't say that misogyny was someone hating women; I said that misogyny was the belief (subconscious or conscious) that women are inherentl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 12:54 PM |
| 0 | [Q4BP] What is misogyny?Misogyny is the belief that women are inherently lesser than men and have no individuality or personal agency. A man would have to act/talk in a way that made me believe that he thought of women as lesser in order for me to call him a misogynist. TRP is misogynistic because a part of their philosophy is that women are inherently lesser than them (All women are children) and that women have no individuality or personal agency (AWALT). The most hateful parts of TRP would be people that you call "i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 11:50 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?So basically you're butt hurt because you're not getting laid. Why do you think women owe you sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:48 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?Do they though? That's actually a terrible analogy. My husband is terrified of heights, but he still has to go work in his office tower every day, he still has to fly when he goes on a business trip, or when we go on vacation abroad. Most people are afraid of things, however most people also don't let fear dictate how they live their lives; because what is the point of all this if fear holds you back from living a normal life? Women go out to pubs and parties because they are living their lives … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:41 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?This is a really destructive way of thinking. People put their bodies on the line (whatever that mean) because they choose to. If someone forced a person to put their body on the line then that would be akin to, at the very least, assault. If you have sex with a woman, and that woman is not a willing participant, then that is rape; which is a crime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:36 AM |
| 16 | CMV: Why should I care about women getting equal pay when women don't care about men getting an equal amount of sex?If a woman has done work, equal to that of her male colleagues, then that woman deserves equal pay as her male colleagues, correct? Anything less would be gender discrimination. If a woman has done the work, she deserves the money, it's that simple. How do you deserve sex? Seriously, do you have a legally binding contract to exchange work for sex? and even so you can't compel someone to have sex with you based on a contract. I really don't see how these two topics are related at all, this is kin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:28 AM |
| 2 | What are ways we can make we can make the cock carousel more fair and equitable?I mean, stop referring to Women's choice of sexual partners as a "Cock Carousel" ... (gross.) Women are people, who are free to make their own choices about who they sleep with. Maybe you should start asking yourself why you resent women's sexuality? Because you aren't having sex? Maybe ask yourself why you think women owe you sex? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:16 AM |
| 1 | What would it take for people to realize TRP isn't a hate sub?It's not racist to point out the IQ gap between white people and people of colour; thinking that fact proves your race is somehow "better" is racist though. The IQ gap is not caused by black people having a different biological makeup than you; people of colour aren't inherently lesser than white people, and think such a way is racist. The reason that people of colour overall have a lower IQ than white people is because of the systemic poverty, dangerous living conditions (such as lead in the wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 09:07 AM |
| 3 | What would it take for people to realize TRP isn't a hate sub?Who has forgiven Mel Gibson? As a Jewish woman I would never go see any of his films, and I'm fairly sure most of the Jews that I know wouldn't either. He's a disgusting, violent man with outdated and anti-semetic beliefs; the fact that he still has a career is really down to how much leeway we give rich white men these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/16 08:51 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Would you rather have sons or daughters? Why are marriages that produce sons statistically more stable than those with daughters?Yeah, but do women have less potential because they are inherently lesser? Or is their potential diminished because of the limitations and expectations placed upon them by the society that devalues them? I would argue that it is the latter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 06:04 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Would you rather have sons or daughters? Why are marriages that produce sons statistically more stable than those with daughters?Can I ask why you think that the patriarchy is natural and good? The patriarchy is society's expectation of gender performance in both men and women, i.e. the stereotypes that we have about each gender; often these expectations cause harm to all people (though it's definitely more damaging to women than it is to men.) A few examples of how the patriarchy damages men; the expectation that all men should be strong/emotionless/powerful, that men are less able as caretakers and nurturers, that men s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 11:20 AM |
| 4 | Do men's standards make them hypocrites?I think the men you're referring to are ones who participate in TRP; they are all definitely hypocrites (and maybe a few other choice words.) As for the rest of the men? They just make up half of the world's population and will all have varying thoughts about women; a lot of the double standards that you have listed really have more to do with patriarchal expectations of how each gender should act; and you're right, it is unwinnable. One day we all might finally "win", as long as both sexes stop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 09:28 AM |
| 4 | Q4All: Would you rather have sons or daughters? Why are marriages that produce sons statistically more stable than those with daughters?I mean, doesn't this just reinforce what feminists have been saying this whole time? Our patriarchal society values men more than women. From the moment that these children are in utero, and we are able to know their sex, the males are given priority over the females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/16 09:12 AM |
| 4 | Men: what is a mixed or contradictory signal you receive from the wider society about gender or romance that you feel one of the pills helps explain or sort out for you?Yeah, no, that's not how this works. If you're claiming there are "numerous studies" on the subject then you must be able to direct me to them; or haven't you read them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Men: what is a mixed or contradictory signal you receive from the wider society about gender or romance that you feel one of the pills helps explain or sort out for you?I'd love to read some of these studies; could you point me in their direction? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/16 02:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The rape and sexual assault issue in America is a by product of an uncontrolled drinking and partying culture in college campusesNo one expects you to look after her, they just expect you to not rape her! Is that so hard?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:52 PM |
| 1 | What types of people resist gender socialization?You think that it's the minority that don't enjoy how we, as a society, play gender? Isn't that what everyone here is debating about? I think most people have at least a small problem with the burden of expectations held against their gender. I'm assuming you're a guy, look at your own tough guy example that you've given! Do you ever get upset that there's an expectation for you to be "strong" and "masculine", there's a societal pressure (because of your gender) that you should hold in your emot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Why are men allowed to brag about their intelligence but not women?I don't know about you, but I don't think it's really alright for anyone to brag. Bragging is never really a positive trait, and is seen as vacuous and annoying; in fact I would argue that people who brag about their intelligence are often not very bright. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:57 AM |
| 1 | A hypothetical for TBPFreudian slip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:53 AM |
| 1 | A hypothetical for TBPSo, women who drink alcohol should accept being raped? Let me flip this on it's head; if you were out with a woman and she got too drunk, would you have sex with her against her will? Because based on what you are saying, your actions would be justified and it would be her fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:52 AM |
| 2 | A hypothetical for TBPWomen can't predict their rapes; It's not like they wake up thinking "welp, today's my rape!" and then proceed to live their lives without care or caution. Women are human beings, are you suggesting that they should shut themselves up, stay inside, not participate in any sort of social activities, and hide their bodies, in order to protect themselves against rape? Do you know who else believes this? ISIS. The only person responsible for a rape, is a rapist. The reason why rape happens most often… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:47 AM |
| 1 | What types of people resist gender socialization?Yes, civilisations end, but has there ever been a catastrophic end linked to the downfall of the "nuclear" family and traditional gender roles? I honestly don't see how abandoning normative gender roles is really driving the world to it's end? Aren't people happier now? Aren't things better now? Do you think the world is ending? How is your life objectively worse because people are not "playing" their gender any longer? In fact the people who seem to be miserable and angry, and driving the world… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:34 AM |
| 2 | Can it be rape if she doesn't say no?Yes, of course this is rape! Her army commander was a man who had a huge amount of power and influence over her life, to the point that he could basically decide whether she was placed in a position of danger or not. Although she never said no; I would argue that the commander having sex with her is still rape based on the same principle that Prison Guards sleeping with inmates is rape. He had too much control, power and influence over her life; he was supposed to stay objective as her commander… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 09:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The rape and sexual assault issue in America is a by product of an uncontrolled drinking and partying culture in college campusesAlright, let me ask you something. If you get drunk, and get reckless and violent and cause a bunch of property damage, are you not still responsible for your actions? So if a perpetrator gets drunk, and rapes someone, does the alcohol in their system absolve them of any wrong doing? Next time I want to commit a crime I'll just do it drunk! That way, at least according to u/gavinok, I can't be held responsible for my actions! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:51 AM |
| 1 | A marriage that survives because the wife performs duty sex for chores that the man hates is a really low quality form of prostitutionIt's hilarious, these guys can spew all sorts of ridiculous and hateful stuff about women, but as soon as you imply that they're somehow not perfect little men they get really defensive. I think that most of this derives from a really damaged ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:38 AM |
| 2 | A marriage that survives because the wife performs duty sex for chores that the man hates is a really low quality form of prostitutionAH, so you DO do chores! Way to backtrack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:36 AM |
| 1 | A marriage that survives because the wife performs duty sex for chores that the man hates is a really low quality form of prostitutionSo, the woman that you're partnered with and whom you're meant to ostensibly respect, gets to do all of your menial tasks? Yeah, I wouldn't expect that arrangement to last long term; it's 2016 not 1950. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:34 AM |
| 2 | A marriage that survives because the wife performs duty sex for chores that the man hates is a really low quality form of prostitutionDefinitely agree; cleaning is BS and no one likes doing it day to day, but it has to get done. I share chores with my husband, if he expected me to do everything (on top of my work!) I would feel completely disrespected and not like an equal partner; that wouldn't work for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:31 AM |
| 2 | A marriage that survives because the wife performs duty sex for chores that the man hates is a really low quality form of prostitutionI mean, everything you've just said is speculation; based on some sort of misguided belief that labour causes women to somehow be unable to express their emotions. Does doing physical labour prevent you from expressing your emotions?? Please direct me to some sort of study or proof that demonstrates this cause and effect, because honestly, this concept is full of crap and is actually incredibly insulting to women. We do physical labour all the time; what do you think chores are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/16 08:17 AM |
| 3 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?To think evolution would make us physically different but not mentally different to be better at our tasks is not logically consistent. This is why you and I will never ever agree; because I truly believe that gender is a social construct and you can never change my mind about that. If women don't care about who's seeing them then why bother with the make up and clothes? Women like to wear makeup, it makes them feel confident and good about themselves. I wear makeup and nice clothes everyday, be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 10:21 AM |
| 0 | Q4RP: How do you feel about The Matrix being created by two transgender siblings?No; they were always women, they have said so themselves. Stop trying to deny someone's gender because it suits your misogynistic world view. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: How do you feel about The Matrix being created by two transgender siblings?Probably the vehement way that TRP insists that women are lesser than men in almost every way; and yet two women created the metaphor on which you the name of your movement has been hinged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringThis is exactly why "othering" women is so dangerous! You see them as the enemy, whom you're at war with (what?!). The reality is that women are just people trying to live their goddamned lives. They aren't at war with men, they're not some sort of secret hive mind sent here to drive you mad!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:54 AM |
| 0 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringBut do you see how, even in your post, you othered women. You placed women into 4 categories; "Traditional", "Intellectual", "Freaky" and "Shallow". You realise that there are 3.5 billion women on the planet? They can't all be Traditional, Intellectual, Freaky and Shallow. Women aren't robots with personality chips; we like a variety of things, we have all sorts of different interests, beliefs and ways that we live our lives. Here's an activity for you to try; classify all the men in the world w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringBut can you understand how everything you just wrote was basically an opinion you have, and not true at all? You have no idea what the experience of being a woman is; if you did then you would understand that everything you just wrote makes no sense. They're better at enjoying life in the moment and not giving a fuck about bigger things in life What does that even mean? Do you have anything to support such a vast generalisation? Because, again, we are talking about 3.5 billion fucking people. St… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:33 AM |
| 0 | Why is autonomy important for men but not for women?I don't agree with you; the year is 2016, not 1950. Women are expected to work, and have careers now. What you're saying may have applied when women were held to the expectation of being mothers and running a household (or were barred from participating in the workforce because of that expectation); but it certainly doesn't ring true for the average woman today. Most women these days will have careers and will also run households; they may not make as much money as men, but I don't see that as t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:24 AM |
| -1 | Why is autonomy important for men but not for women?Excuse me? As a woman, I understand consequences and personal responsibility. I'm fairly sure most women understand that their actions and decisions have consequences; your random generalisation with no proof or anything to back it up, other than your shaky word, is actually quite insulting. What if I said that all men are lazy idiots? That would be an equivalent claim to your own. You've just basically assumed something about 50% of the world's population, and you've presented it as if it were … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:11 AM |
| 3 | [Q4ALL] What is YOUR average day like and what do you look like?I'm a fairly attractive woman in my late 20's, I work as an architect (I have an MArch), though I am actually in the process of finishing my ARB qualifying exams so that I can use the title of architect professionally. I usually get up at 7:30, have a cup of tea with my husband. He gets up and has a shower while I check my emails. Then, once I'm finished my tea I'll get up and shower and get dressed and do some makeup. I walk to work, through a park, which is nice. I get to work usually at aroun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Any theories why men contemplate suicides post breakup?uh, probably the same reason why a lot of people contemplate suicide after a break up; they're going through a lot of emotional distress, and after being partnered long term, often you don't have the social support (i.e. yo friends) that you did before. I mean, why specifically do you think that this would be different for men than it would be for women? Why do you think some women contemplate suicide after a break up? Probably the same damn reason. If you're feeling this way, please call the su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Discussion: RP's Need for OtheringI think the fundamental problem with the RP is that they fail to recognise that women are individuals, just like each and every one of them are individuals. It drives me crazy when I read overarching descriptions of literally 50% of the world's population. Like wake up idiots, we're not a 'special interest group' or a weird cult (sort of like TRP) where we share all the same beliefs and hobbies; we are 3.5 billion people, all entirely different individuals. But TRP doesn't believe women are peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/16 07:40 AM |
| 0 | CMV: A woman cannot be strong and independent while also being too afraid to say NO during sexI really don't see how anyone is supposed to interpret the point that you're making then? What is the purpose of this conversation? You just write anything, and then when it's made clear that what you're saying is horrible you just don't acknowledge it? alright. You have yet to actually clarify your point, and now I'm starting to doubt that you have really considered the statement that you wrote out. Rational people usually aren't confronted with a person arguing that women should train for thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 02:32 PM |
| 0 | CMV: A woman cannot be strong and independent while also being too afraid to say NO during sexYeah, I read exactly what you wrote; it seems like maybe you don't understand it, or at least it's implications. You said that women should undergo some form of military training, or police training, or at least repetitive drills so that they won't respond to dangerous situations by freezing. If women doesn't do this training or these drills, then they can't be considered "strong" or "independent" (whatever that even means?!) and they are at least partially responsible for their own rape/attack.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:37 PM |
| 2 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?God, the way you describe it, it's a wonder that the human species has managed to continue on for so long! Billions of men have figured out how to talk to a woman, I don't know how to help you if you can't. The best advice I would give is to remind you that women are people, who are just trying to live their lives. They don't owe you their time, even if they are in public, and they certainly don't owe you a lesson in how to be a normal person in society. If you've been labeled a creep then I don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 01:04 PM |
| 0 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?But that question was directed specifically at the red pill, about their own beliefs that they have expressed. This question was directed at Blue Pill people (or whatever) about a random woman, whom none of us has met or known, and her behaviour. Can you not see the inherent difference in those questions? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 12:55 PM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?No, I'm saying women are human beings with different emotions /behaviours/circumstances; The OP is asking us to explain the behaviour of one woman who none of us know, and the story is written from the perspective of a man! If I posted a possibly hypothetical situation where a man did something horrible and illogical, all described and told by his EX, and then asked you to explain his behaviour, would you think that was a reasonable question? That mans behaviour doesn't represent all men over th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you carry any kind of self defense aids? Why or why not?I mean, some people freeze, and some people fight, and some people run. You can't really predict how your body will react in certain situations. I've personally experienced all of these responses. I was once attacked by a man in an alley beside my work, and I fought back against him (I was on the ground, I kicked up into his balls), he was much stronger than me but very luckily the bouncers heard me screaming. When I was involved in a fatal car crash (I wasn't the driver) I tried to get out of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 10:52 AM |
| 0 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?Oh no, I did that in the comments. I just wanted to give you advice on how to not be a creep and live the true red pill lifestyle. /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 10:25 AM |
| -1 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?I love this; it's so hypocritical and sad. If you're having trouble hitting on girls, stop being a creep on the internet and go join a club or something. There are literally thousands of things you could be doing right now, that aren't creepy, to meet a girl; but no, you'd rather just be creepy and alone on the internet. Good job dude, so alpha! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:50 AM |
| 5 | Question for both pills, mostly blue - do you think creep-shaming is fair in the context in which men are still expected to approach and initiate?Creepy = Overstepping a persons clear boundaries. Headphones/books/staring intently at a smartphone/ any sort of activity that is using her full attention, are all ways that women show people that they have set up boundaries; they are busy and don't want to be talked at by some weird ass dude. If you try to talk to me while I've got my headphones on, on the subway, I'm going to tell you to leave me alone. If (and this has happened to me a few times) you try to take my headphones off my head to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:43 AM |
| 4 | Is being a male virgin really such a weird, strange thing? {Male, 26}This, x 10,000! It's strange how on TV girls are often portrayed as wanting to stay virginal, when the reality is often a bit different. I didn't lose my virginity until I was in University and I felt very old and strange to be doing it then, when most of my friends had lost their virginity to boyfriends in high school. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:19 AM |
| 6 | Feminist Media and How it [doesn't] Portray FathersUh, have you watched Jane the Virgin? Rogelio de la Vega is an amazing character! I didn't realise that when a woman had a lead role in a tv show, that it suddenly became feminist. I'm pretty sure most women would disagree with you that a few of these shows are feminist (shadow hunters? really? you actually watch that shit?) I think this has more to do with the classic "special orphan" character, rather than some secret feminist conspiracy to negate the father figure from television. The father … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Blue pillers: why would a married woman cheat on her successful dentist husband, for a meth addicted wife beater?I mean, not every woman ever is going to go off and fuck a wife beating meth head over their dentist husband. We don't know what was going on in that marriage; we only see this story from his perspective, what about hers? It could be that she's just a fucking asshole who loves other assholes, in which case fuck her and I hope she enjoys the meth. On the other hand, maybe the Dentist was absolutely horrible to her, made her feel bad about herself, maybe he hit her and made her feel isolated, so s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:37 AM |
| 7 | Why do men belittle ‘stereotypically female’ hobbies and traits while still saying they want ‘traditionally feminine’ women?I think the real problem is that people are dividing activities and interests between what is traditionally "male" and what is traditionally "female" and then judging women based on what they choose to do to enjoy time passing. It bothers me, we shouldn't start drawing lines in the sand saying something is female, and another thing is male; after all gender is just a social construct that we perform. Every person is different, my interests and hobbies are my own, I don't do them to impress men, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/16 08:24 AM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingAgain, and I'll repeat myself, all rapist are criminals. Stupid men that rape are still rapists and therefore criminals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:52 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingah yes, the magical "If I was in that situation the I would always act perfectly" another wonderful straw man argument. Women are people, we're trying to live our lives, sometimes living involves making mistakes or going out with friends and having fun, or (god forbid!) being out after dark. Also, with the women's colleges or "Safe spaces" I would point out that most Red Pill people would call that misandry. I remember when they started having a "Women only" car in the subway, all the Red Pill a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:50 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pillers: what is something you be willing to concede or stipulate to red pillers?It's only confusion because you don't actually see women as people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:38 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI can think of a perfect way to make it better; always fully investigate rape accusations and stop blaming women for being raped! Amazing, 2 solutions right there! I must be some sort of fucking genius! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:33 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingWomen marry down, women marry up, women marry sideways, same as men; we're not always going to stay in our specific caste (is that something else you would like?). Women are also judged by what they contribute; in case you haven't noticed women make up a huge proportion of the working population nowadays. Do you think I don't get judged at my job everyday just like you? Do you even work, are you old enough to have a job? Your post actually makes me wonder if you've ever actually met a woman, bec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:31 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingOh, get off it, the idea that women are targets and unsafe is drilled into our heads from the moment we can understand words. We understand that we're unsafe, we don't need you to remind us, or to warn us, or to blame us when something bad happens. Also, just a point, a woman is more likely to be attacked by a guy that she trusts, than a stranger at the bar, so your point is totally useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:17 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI do take this seriously, I just can't take your argument seriously, they are so steeped in rape apology it makes me sick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:13 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI didn't say he owed her anything; just said there were still reasons to hang out/chill other than sex.... Obviously you only see women as walking vaginas though, so good luck with living your life like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:11 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI live in Scotland, a place where carrying a gun, or a knife large enough to do bodily harm, will land you in jail. I prefer to just, you know, living my fucking life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:09 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingOf course, in this situation the valuables are attached to a woman's body, we can't exactly take our vagina's off for a night out. So basically women are stupid for being out, after dark and drunk; sorry can I even fucking live? Or should I just stay in when it's not dark? That might be hard because I live in a country where a good proportion of the year the sun sets before 3pm; I guess I should just quit my fucking job too! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 04:06 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingWow, I've never seen anyone actually prove how wrong and disgusting they are in their own argument. Good job bro. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:59 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingAh yes, another wonderful strawman argument "things are as good as they have ever been; so stop complaining and we'll stop progressing" No. We can do better; women are telling you that this is still a problem, it's not going to go away until it gets better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:58 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingBecause "pussy" isn't a tradable commodity as long as it's attache to an autonomous human being, as much as you wish it was. Women are people, who make up 50% of the population, in case you forgot that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:56 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingMy vagina isn't an object; it's not a receptacle through which 'respect' travels. It's a part of my body, my whole, my person. Because I am a fucking person, a human being with a life and worries and wants and family and memories. Women are individual people, just like men are. If all you see is a commodity when you look at me, then you're a garbage human being. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:52 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingYeah, but how are women meant to know the difference? We don't have special rapist vision, they aren't all living in the same spot or wearing distinctive clothing! In fact if you're a woman you're more likely to be raped by someone you trust than by a total stranger. There is literally no way for women to prevent rape, but there is a very easy way for rapists to prevent rape; stop raping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:47 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingOmg thank you! someone who is sane! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:44 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingNo, even if the victim was drunk it is entirely the muggers fault, because the mugger is the person who has made the decision to carry out the crime. The drunk person was just trying to live their fucking life, doing absolutely nothing illegal or wrong in any way. They didn't ask to be robbed, why on earth would it be their fault that some random decided to mug them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:39 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingAh yes, so many clueless rapists! Just walking along, and then accidentally forcing a terrified person to have sex with them! So absolutely fucking innocent and clueless, poor poor rapist, communication is so confusing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:36 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingThen do you leave the house expecting to be attacked/killed/raped daily? Because that's basically the way you want women to act, which is impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:29 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingyes, of course, because if a woman isn't going to have sex with you then what use is she?! She couldn't possibly want some other form of affection and intimacy, like cuddling or conversation. Nope, it's sex or GTFO bitch, seems like you have a really healthy relationship with women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 03:23 PM |
| 3 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingIf I'm being perfectly honest here, I don't believe you. If you're genuinely telling the truth about needing a babysitter to get drunk then... good for you I guess? No one is perfect, that's the point I'm trying to make. Normal people go out and get drunk, normal people go out and get reckless, that's life. Do people deserve to be raped/attacked/robbed/murdered because they aren't perfect? Is that something you believe? Also chances are you're more likely to be raped by that babysitter than by s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 01:46 PM |
| 2 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingI think you're missing my point. Do you think that telling your sister to be safe is actually making her safer? It's not. We live in a world where anything can happen at any moment; women are more aware of this than men are because men aren't reminded on a daily basis how vulnerable they are to attack, rape and death. Women should be able to go out, and have a good time with their friends, without having to anticipate being raped/attacked/drugged. If a woman is raped/attacked/drugged then her "r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:56 PM |
| 1 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingAh yes, horrible women and their horrible social cues, it's not like you spend your entire life navigating them. Here's a hint, if she says no, not right now, looks completely freaked out or uncomfortable, or any variation on that, then the answer is no. There you go, now you don't have to rape anyone! Congratulations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:23 PM |
| 0 | Blue Pillers: what is something you be willing to concede or stipulate to red pillers?I mean, where does this come from? This immediate assumption about all women? I've noticed this a lot in the red pill community, women are selfish, childish, misandrist, gold digging whores. If you started to think of women as actual human beings, instead of the "enemy" maybe things would work better for you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:10 PM |
| -1 | Blue Pillers: what is something you be willing to concede or stipulate to red pillers?Ideally? Treat her like a human being with equal value and interest as yourself. Don't put her on a pedestal, don't try and manipulate her with your shitty PUA lines, don't try to dominate her with your "alpha" personality. Just treat her like she is a human being; a lot of men manage to accomplish this, but for some reason the concept escapes the red pill community. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:07 PM |
| 6 | If a woman says "no" you should stop even if you think she's shit-testingDo you go out drinking after dark to clubs/bars/pubs? Do you expect to come home without being raped? Why shouldn't women have the same expectation of safety? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 12:01 PM |
| -1 | Does the "rape culture" debate give TRP validity that women are essentially children who need their hands held and who irresponsibly put themselves into compromising situations?The "rape culture" debate centres around the idea that women should be allowed to do whatever they want (just like men) and shouldn't have to be constantly vigilant, mistrusting and afraid of being raped; or face societal backlash if they are raped. In the example you give, when a woman is not in the mood and she says no; even in a joking manner, then her partner should stop. What does 'no' mean to you that you would expect your partner to have to physically separate herself from you, and push y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/16 11:58 AM |
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