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Things I would never compromise on: Political views and morality. Or anyone who was into organized religion. Anyone who wanted biological kids or who would refuse to adopt/foster with me. And anyone who bought into any of this pill shit and actually applied it to their life- that's just a red flag though haha
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 04:58 PM
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Right?! Because they're still kids! Legally, sure they're an adult but they're still learning how to be! I wouldn't even hang out with an 18 year olds because they're kids and it feels weird to me. Can't imagine wanting to fuck or date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:28 PM
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If you're in your 30s trying to date teens, you're creepy! Hands down.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:27 PM
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Dating teens in your 30s is creepy. Hands down. If you disagree, you might be a pedophile!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 05:26 PM
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I dont even know why you think you're arguing with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:09 AM
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I was stating that my main concern with an age gap relationship is emotional manipulation, not necessarily physical abuse. I can be worried about multiple things though lol Size also does not necessarily indicate who the abuser and victim are either, even with physical violence. Many small women and men can be physically abusive toward their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 01:00 AM
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Physical abuse is one type of abuse. Emotional abuse is just as bad and manipulation is a key element of it. Source: I am literally a domestic violence emergency worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 12:33 AM
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Power imbalance has virtually nothing to do with physical size
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:20 PM
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I'm bi, I was talking about the young women. I'm not even attracted to 18 year olds bc they still look like kids. And yes, I have had young men and women interested in me but I am not attracted to them. I'm not trying to say they're dumb! I'm trying to say that your early 20s you learn so much about yourself and life. We're not in the same place mentally, and physically they still resemble kids to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:18 PM
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HARD agree. I'm 26 and bi and the thought of dating an 18 year old woman makes me fucking squirm. They JUST finished high school, while I have my own place and career path. It's borderline pedophilic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:15 PM
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As a bisexual woman who just turned 26, it's weird to be attracted to 18,19,20 year olds. They look like kids and act like it too. I wouldn't even make friends with anyone under 20, wouldn't date under 22(even that's too young for my liking). We have so little in common, I've been an independent adult for 8 years and for them they're still figuring everything out. It's so weird to me that 25+ year old men are so attracted to 18 year old girls,, they look and act like kids. Ya'll creepy af
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:12 PM
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Also just to point out that I'm bisexual and lesbians find women most attractive in their 40s. My "value" may decline with men but I don't really care cause I have yet to reach milf status with women loving women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:44 PM
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Now you're arguing class divides. I also am a lowly hourly worker, despite holding a degree and seeking another. I know life isn't fair. I'm asking for men to not blanket hate women for existing. Why is that so hard for you all?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:55 PM
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What demands? Equal pay? Not getting groped and harassed in public? Actual prison time for sex offenders? You all can't even treat us like we're human and you expect us to stop "making demands". Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:47 PM
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You realize feminism is an effect of rampant misogyny right? If you all saw women as equal people, there would never have been a need for feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:37 PM
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Or men could just not be misogynistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:30 PM
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Of anyone dating tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 04:06 PM
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They do find the women they're sleeping with attractive, but they feel like they shouldn't. Society shames them for wanting to fuck fat girls, so they act like there's something wrong with her, instead they feel immense shame at being attracted to someone they don't think they should find attractive and lash out at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:29 PM
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I told myself I'd not ghost anyone when I started dating again. It's really not that hard. Most people are chill. Then again, I never lie about my intentions with people in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:22 PM
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The majority of the men here don't even see women as people. It doesn't make for any good faith arguments when any time a woman posts or comments it's automatically seen as less than just bc of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 02:07 PM
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Well I like people for who they are. But going off the incel def- over 6ft, fit, good job, above average facial attractiveness including symmetry and harmony, big dick etc. Basically more attractive than the average male by a substantial amount. Edit: I call you a misogynist from the way you interact with women on this site. It's pretty obvious you don't us as people lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:03 PM
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Think what you want man. If I tell you I'm currently dating 3 guys that you would consider "chads" you won't believe me anyway. The opinion of a random misogynist doesn't change that reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 12:00 PM
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😂 you can't call me a femcel and then ask a question completely unrelated to that lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:55 AM
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Seems like you got some shit you're going through..
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:48 AM
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What makes you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:45 AM
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Nobody needs to date anyone they aren't into lmao you don't gotta bitch about how women do x, you can just not date them
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 04:00 AM
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My life is completely normal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 09:32 PM
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You don't gotta date these people either.. idk why you're so mad about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:35 PM
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They specifically asked for a woman's perspective. You don't get to speak for women lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:32 PM
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As a woman, confidence and personality are the most important things to me. An attractive face would get you a date, but I'm not interested in someone if they can't hold a conversation. Now, if they were open about being shy/timid I might give them some slack, I get it. But ultimately, I value social skills over how attractive someone is. I wouldn't be disgusted by someone just because they're shy. Nothing wrong with it, just not a good match for me. I wouldn't be confused either, anyone can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 07:30 PM
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He asked why people thought it was weird. And I explained that it's creepy. Idk why yall are getting upset that I told him the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:39 PM
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But that's inherently how it comes off. It's fucking creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:08 PM
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It's a truth bc most men are pedophiles or don't actually like women at all. I've never met a woman who declines in age after 25. You only think that if you want to fuck someone who looks like a kid, which I don't. It's inherently manipulative. A 30 yo should be established in life, have a good job, friends, savings, and be much much more mature than an 18 yo. An 18 yo has next to nothing and is just trying to figure it out. Relationships are about more than chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 06:07 PM
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I'm saying it comes off as being about manipulation. Either way, the relationship can never be equal. Looks fade, yes. But the 20 yr old will be older someday so idk why people care about that. If you think women decline in looks after age 25, you're a pedophile or you're not actually attracted to women, but rather the idea of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:45 PM
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Trying to date implies fucking, yes? There will always be a power imbalance between teenagers and people in their 30s. It says that you want someone docile and unestablished in life to manipulate. That's why it's weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:23 PM
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Actively trying to fuck teens in your 30s is always a red flag and creepy af
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 05:10 PM
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So what should a woman do then?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:54 PM
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The point, which you completely missed, is that people messaging rude things right off the bat isn't a match that counts. Quality vs quantity.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/21 04:45 PM
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Why
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:07 AM
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I'm just saying men made the laws and enforced the culture that many of you feel oppressed by. But yes, please ignore everything I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:53 PM
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This is because women have had to tell people for literal centuries that we're people too. Feminism didn't just start overnight and there is still a massive opposition to the feminist movement. And let's not forget that a huge number of issues men face currently(divorce issues,, custody battles, dv and sa not taken seriously for example) were put into law by legislatures that were all male and backed by male judges due to misogyny and patriarchy. (Men couldn't possibly be deemed as sah dads or c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:23 PM
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You really don't care to hear about women's lived experiences and prefer to make up your own huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:14 PM
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As opposed to people never taking you seriously, constantly being belittled and infantalized, being objectified in every facet of life, and having a large percent of men automatically believe they're smarter and better than you simply bc of their sex? You act like women don't have ingrained issues just for being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:08 PM
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Because the men here don't think women are people and would never listen to us. They're misogyny tells them that men know more about women than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:04 PM
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And even if that were true of this one person.. women aren't a monolith. Also sweet is not synonymous with being a pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:01 AM
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And what's the solution?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 09:00 AM
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You are of course correct. Most of these guys don't even see women as people. It's like shouting to a brick wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:42 AM
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And I'm saying that as a woman, that is off-putting to place a the highest thing I could give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:41 AM
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I can't imagine a group of people that pity themselves more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:28 AM
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"Or he gets rejected in the same way that Elliot Rodger got rejected (in his own head)." Is that what I misread? Cause that's what you wrote just now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:25 AM
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But instead you said that when men feel rejection in their heads, rather than experience it, that is also somehow a woman's fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:23 AM
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"Or he gets rejected in the same way that Elliot Rodger got rejected (in his own head)." That one a thread about how women just don't like x about men really makes it seem like that's what you said. And I am far from offended, rather I am entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:21 AM
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Men getting rejected in their own heads is suddenly about women's standards now...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 01:18 AM
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It can be honest and misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:20 AM
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I am 100% not male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/21 12:03 AM
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How do you know that? Edit: because me, a woman with tons of women friends, completely disagree and have never observed this behavior. It's strange that you think you know us better than we do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:58 PM
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I also don't see a birthrate crash an objectively good or bad thing. I understand the implications, but ultimately there are more reasons for the declining birth rate than just sexlessness among men. I recently got sterilized because the thought of bringing a child into this world is impossible for me to fathom financially(and morally with the inevitable climate crisis) So I'm asking why, specifically is male sexlessness a huge problem? Declining birth rate is for more reasons than men having le…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:27 PM
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I think the general consensus is being "nice" isn't enough. Plenty of people are nice, it should be the default. Gotta be more than good looking and nice to get a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:24 PM
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Which women? Cause most women I know like guys that look and are really sweet. Myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:21 PM
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I'm more speaking of the men in this sub who hold sex above anything else. As the "ultimate prize" "best gift" "most important" thing a woman can give a man. All of those are actual things said in this sub. Those men are gonna have a hard time getting laid if that's how they see it because it automatically objectifies women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:16 PM
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So women are rejecting him for his personality, not his looks. But I thought women only wanted looks right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:10 PM
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Of course it's fine to want sex. I said if you make it a goal that it's problematic. Do you think most people can't understand when only one thing is wanted from them? If you make sex the goal, the thing you need to be happy, then anyone who could give you sex becomes a challenge to obtain it. Being on the opposite end of that is incredibly off putting. That is what is morally objectionable. If you all wanted sex like the rest of us do- would be cool, but plenty else going on- there wouldn't be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 11:01 PM
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How did you get there?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:57 PM
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Considering that I have never once known an average man that does a damn thing to protect his skin or keep up his appearance. I'm gonna call bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:56 PM
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Just so you're clear, nowhere in this article does it say men have "100000x" higher sex drive than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:55 PM
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Or people could put emphasis on other parts of life. Making sex a goal only objectifies every person that you give it to you, which is only going to make it harder to "achieve"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:50 PM
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Um yeah? I've seen stuff to the contrary. I think your mind would be blown if you knew how many women were just as horny as men but still would never fuck you :/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:49 PM
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You saying you only "tolerate" women for sex does have to do with you though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:46 PM
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Making a statement that you only want women for sex is a misogynistic thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:44 PM
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Why is it a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:43 PM
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Wait so do you get rejected for looks or personality then? Cause you can't say women only care about looks and then say you only get rejected bc of your personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:42 PM
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It really seems like a lot of you misogynists are in the closet and would be much happier coming out. You hate everything about women, why try to be with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:42 PM
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What's it like to be desperate for something that you also despise?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:37 PM
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If you treat sex purely as a goal or objective, you then begin to treat anyone you're sexually attracted to as an object, which is incredibly off putting btw and is likely the main reason so many men here can't/won't ever get laid. And honestly if you keep that mindset, I hope you never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:36 PM
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Source on that? I've had a much higher sex drive than every man I've dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:31 PM
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100% accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:30 PM
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Most of the men here are misogynists who only see women as sexual objects. Many would be just as happy with a fleshlight that moans. Coincidentally, the are also the men that complain the most about not getting women. They don't seem to see the correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 10:27 PM
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Intersex is a biological term that means having chromosomes or parts from both sexes. I'm not even talking about gender, I'm talking about biology 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/21 01:24 PM
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Idk why you think that. I've cussed out guys you would likely consider "chads" for touching me without permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 11:43 PM
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Or just don't touch people without their consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:39 PM
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Touching me without consent is assault
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:37 PM
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If it's unasked for, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:35 PM
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I said overly jealous. And I explained my reasoning. You all love to complain that women stay with their abusive boyfriends, but then you get upset when I point out the things that should make women leave before they're abused. I work in the field of dv, if people took blind rage jealousy and gaslighting more seriously, they wouldn't have been physically abused. Excessive jealousy and gaslighting are RED FLAGS, not just "shit I don't like"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:30 PM
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Like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:27 PM
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Abusive without an agenda? There's always an agenda for abusers, to keep, control, and Isolated their partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:26 PM
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Abusive meaning, misogynistic, manipulative, gas lighter, overly jealous, and obviously physical abuse as well. While everything I just listed may not be in the definition of "abuse" per se, I believe it's a precursor to emotional, financial, or physical abuse and it's best to leave them early rather than see how abusive they'll get.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:23 PM
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I think if you count abusive and creepy it's likely 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:21 PM
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Only if he's being creepy. As in, intrusive, handsy, interrupting, domineering, won't take no for an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:19 PM
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Agree with everything you said. 25%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:18 PM
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Who have you met that says unattractive = abusive?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:17 PM
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Lol creep means something specific to us and it isn't what you've described. Women don't like abusers either, hence why they're called abusers. I think it's probably around 25% of men that have huge red flags that scream creepy or abusive. More or less depending on the area.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:16 PM
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Wouldn't bother me much. But I would have to think he's special in order to date anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:14 PM
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Intersex exists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 08:10 PM
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Make sure you inform women you meet that you don't consider her value as a human to be anything without sex for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 06:53 PM
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It's wild to me that you consider a woman's best to be sex with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:56 PM
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Is a strawman any worse than a made up scenario to prove your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:50 PM
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I was societally conditioned to use my body for child birth but yet I realized I don't want children and got sterilized. Society also told me I should be only into men,, and never have more than one partner. And yet I still am bisexual and polyamorous. You are capable of changing your world view. And while society as a whole may still think a certain way, you as an individual have the ability to not view women as a prize and not care what the abstract society thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:35 PM
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It does happen both ways and I'm guilty of it myself. I do enjoy sex with hot men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:33 PM
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I mean, it's incredibly hard to not participate in society. But there's no reason for you as an individual to view women as trophies rather than people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:21 PM
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I just don't happen to know a Danny devito, man of color who is a janitor. But it seems like it might be you? If you have a hard time getting girls, it's okay to say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 04:12 PM
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That is the definition of objectifying. You use women as trophies to show off to society to make yourself feel good rather than as a partners. Seriously, you are better off waiting for sex robots to become real since that appears to be all you want from a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:48 PM
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And men want an innocent virgin who will immediately change and be an experienced slut for him on the first date. I can generalize too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:36 PM
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Why is the best thing a woman can give a man sex? You all really do view women as objects to be obtained, rather than potential partners and actual people, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 03:21 PM
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Idk man that sounds like a lot of words to say you can't get a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:59 PM
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This is so funny to me bc both Danny Devito and every janitor I've known is married to at least a reasonably attractive woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/21 02:56 PM
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Ppl on this sub are completely wild. You walk around looking at everyone as a number- SMV, n- count, age, weight, income- and completely neglect any thing else about an actual relationship. If you treat someone as a number, they probably aren't going to like you. No matter how "successful" you are. I'd much rather date a poor man who is sweet, than a rich one that judges me for my number, and who resents that I'm the highest one he can get with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:22 PM
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Doing them all a favor. You sound like a fucking nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 12:00 PM
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Bc they're always trying to make it womens fault, but they never once look at the role men play as if it could be at fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/21 11:51 AM
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I'm reasonably attractive(not a 10, but I have no issues getting dates irl or old) and dating isn't always easier just bc you're prettier. Yes I can find a guy to buy me dinner and drinks or come over, that's easier. But finding a true and genuine connection with someone is hard no matter who you are. I've met plenty of guys, we both got along great and had plenty of attraction toward each other, but sometimes that isn't enough to sustain a relationship. Or maybe they're not looking for a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 09:32 PM
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men treat women differently than they treat other men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 10:58 PM
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Yeah I literally just said that. Good thing I'm perfectly happy alone, like I just said! Or are you gonna tell me how I feel again despite the fact that multiple people have agreed with me? Just bc you can only be happy with something you can't get doesn't mean I should settle for a man like you!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:29 PM
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You can seek a partner and also be happy being alone. Women initiate divorces not bc they know they can do better but bc theyre carrying deadweight around and would be happier alone. Your analogy with food is flawed for several reasons. 1. I will not die without a committed partner 2. Me and many other women who feel this way are still dating we just refuse to settle down so we're still eating, so to say. I'm gonna reach for the stars and hold out for someone I actually want to be with, my stand…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:32 AM
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HARD agree. I would rather be alone(perfectly happy alone actually) then settle for someone less than. That's the difference now. Men can't just get a girl by being not abusive anymore. I told my mom and her friends after they were complaining that their husbands never do any housework that I would never settle for someone who couldn't clean up after themselves. They all laughed at me and told me to be happy being alone to which I replied that I was! They married these men bc they were kind to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 02:29 AM
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