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Discussionsugarcurious/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:06 PM
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You kind of prove my earlier comment about it not being a compromise for women. The ever looming threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 05:42 AM
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You can pay someone to cuddle you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/19 12:12 AM
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Fucking off from committed relationships doesn’t mean fucking off from society. It’s evident men and women both need each other in one aspect or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 11:34 PM
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I was sold the same lies when I was a girl. It’s easy to be deceived when all you see is the Kodak moments of others’ relationships. But during my first serious relationship I realized it was a fairy tale. Serious, long-term relationships take a tremendous amount of work and people get burnt out. I had my own angst about discovering all this, just like many of TRP men have. And have come to the same conclusions, it’s a shit deal, I’ll pass. I’m glad men are waking up to it, they shouldn’t tolera…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 10:25 PM
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Do you have to agree with someone to feel empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 09:47 PM
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Eh, this is a conversation that we’ll never really have an answer to. It is an interesting thought experiment. What I think? If all men fucked off from commitment and supporting children then women would turn to selling sex instead of trading support for exclusivity and they would raise their children in a more communal way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:57 PM
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Of course I have. Frequently in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:44 PM
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men who are forced to fuck women who are below their league, Men are not forced to fuck anyone, get out of here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:12 PM
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Women claim to prioritise commitment and relationships but take part in casual sex. These are not mutually exclusive! People like sex and like trying it with different people. That doesn’t mean people can’t or don’t fall in love and want to make a commitment to someone. And I think it’s great that men don’t want to get married. That is huge commitment and should not be taken lightly. And you’re right, sex fizzles in relationships because both men and women get bored because novelty is exciting t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 08:08 PM
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Jesus Christ, you can claim I don’t have empathy all you want simply because I didn’t pander to you in that comment. I have stated in multiple comments previously that I do feel for men, the idea of not being top choice sucks. The conversation that is going on now is me explaining that your feeling of insecurity does not trump my personal autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:54 PM
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That comment was explaining why there was a differing perspective. You imagine what's going on in my mind in such a way that my behavior makes reasonable sense enough that you would personally do it too. And just no, that was a long round about way of saying if you don’t do what I say, you are not empathetic, which is manipulative bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:39 PM
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Men were not compromising for centuries. They structured it like sexual communism so every man gets a woman. Women were sacrificed to the population of men’s imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:35 PM
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It’s only a “bad deal” for men if they care about partner count, which not all do. Women are saying they don’t care because they value their freedom to be autonomous human beings more, they don’t want to go back to the old days where they were shamed for being normal human beings who have sex. But why women thinks that their past sexual prowess and their incorporeal idea of "love" are separate notions? Except men think this all the time about themselves. But they have a double standard against w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 07:26 PM
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What does showing empathy look like to you? Telling the man in question she understands, or her doing what he says?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:30 PM
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That is not true. High n men do get into relationships with high n count women. People need to using such rigid dichotomies because they draw erroneous conclusions from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:28 PM
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Do you really think women are gung ho that her husband fucked half the room? Like come on. But having a high partner does not necessitate that someone fucked half the room. That is a false equivalency.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/19 06:21 PM
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I would agree that people shouldn’t be using harsh shaming language towards others preferences. People seem to be incredibly defensive and angry when people live their lives differently. There are plenty of examples on both sides of people doing that. At the same time, can you really not empathize with why people view it as misogynistic? All this history of women being treated like sex and reproduction chattel. The goodness of a person is not dependent on how many people they have sex with, yet …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 11:08 PM
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Are you saying that women having agency over their own sexuality and having sex with different men before a LTR is oppressing men? Or are you saying women challenging these set of beliefs is oppressing men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 10:48 PM
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Because one of the hallmarks of women’s oppression was to control her through her sexuality. That’s why it’s frequently met with hostility.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/19 09:48 PM
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Everyone if the thread can see how emotional you’re being. Holy shit. You’re not smart enough to talk to me If you say shit like this, it means you are obviously not as smart as you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:22 PM
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Holy fucking shit, who pissed in your cereal this morning? It’s shit like your string of comments that make me laugh when I hear women are the “emotional” gender, you’re getting yourself in a fucking tizzy, over what? If you think that reading novels is “learning” Uh dude, you can learn something from practically everything. Take a fiction novel for example, you can increase your vocab, learn proper grammar, sentence structure, how to develop characters and story lines, you can learn about cultu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:13 PM
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His feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 02:39 PM
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Bomb threats? When has a feminist group ever made a bomb threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/19 01:43 PM
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Men want to provide and protect. A good wife should give him opportunities to do that, and praise him for providing and protecting often. Just seems like you’re treating him like a fucking child at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 06:48 PM
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Pretty sure you don’t need RPW to figure out it’s important to pick your battles.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 04:42 PM
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So I don’t know if I would go as far as saying it is better for the man’s imperative per se, but it does provide a more coddled environment. But the notion that the man always knows best is foolish. I’ve known very intelligent men that sometimes gets things wrong. It’s a fact of humanity, we each have our individual strengths and weaknesses, topics were more knowledgable in and not. It’s great if you recognize someone has more knowledge in a subject, and trust their opinion on something that you…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/19 02:29 PM
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Seriously. She is treating her husband like a fucking child. It’s kind of pathetic. Wasn’t there another story from that book that talks about them driving 20-30miles out of the way because she didn’t want to correct him. Like, my god...have some fucking self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:44 PM
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Yyyeeeaaahhhh...the whole notion of “the man always knows best” or that you need to tip toe around a dumb decision to protect his ego is ludicrous. The fact of the matter is men don’t always know best, we each have our strengths and weaknesses and you need to recognize where they are at and respond accordingly. There are ways to approach a subject respectfully but biting your tongue when your husband is about to send you to the poor house is idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 02:10 PM
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Being charming and social, knowing how to flirt, build rapport, build tension etc. just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there. Seduction is a mental thing, there have been whole books written on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/19 01:52 PM
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So what if a chick has multiple men in love with her and want relationships with her? Would that not be girl game?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 02:52 PM
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What is your suggestion to fix this issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/19 06:41 AM
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You can have social circles other than a romantic partner, and in fact, a lot of women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 01:21 PM
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OLD is pretty shit for men. I’ve said this a few times on this sub already, but men’s best bets for dating is to have large, active social networks or to be a regular somewhere. Part of what makes a man attractive is his vibe and it’s tough to determine over a 2D picture. Two of my BFs I almost swiped left on/didn’t pursue because I wasn’t quite sure but we ended up hitting it off. The proximity and familiarity principles of attraction work in men’s favor. If they build a presence in a social ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:23 AM
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OLD is pretty shit for men. I’ve said this a few times on this sub already, but men’s best bets for dating is to have large, active social networks or to be a regular somewhere. Part of what makes a man attractive is his vibe and it’s tough to determine over a 2D picture. Two of my BFs I almost swiped left on/didn’t pursue because I wasn’t quite sure but we ended up hitting it off. The proximity and familiarity principles of attraction work in men’s favor. If they build a presence in a social ci…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/19 12:23 AM
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LOL! Oh yeah, all those 70+ year old dudes pulling hot, young tail.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:31 PM
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Considering the discussion was on gendered differences in happiness between married and singles, you should have quoted that section as her claim was not that singles are more happy than married people, it was that single women were more happy than their married counter parts. But it explains that the evidence is inconclusive and they list multiple studies with competing claims. You’re right that there needs to be a more focused, controlled study (perhaps there already is one). Also, there shoul…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 09:23 PM
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Oh my god! Is it that women are not a monolith and have different ideas? The absurdity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/19 05:46 PM
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Uhhh, other than Warren Buffet, the wealthy are not known for living like paupers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 10:24 PM
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You’re right that there is a subsection of new wealth that is too flashy and draws the scorn of old wealth. People naive to wealth may not know the difference though. And yeah, there are still people who are annoyed by super flashy people BUT regardless they still get a lot more respect and benefits than a nobody. But there are also ways that wealth is exhibited that isn’t super flashy but the message gets across. And on top of all of that, the wealthy do compete with one another to show off the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 10:12 PM
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Because they are status symbols. Status symbols offer respect to people. The uber wealthy don’t need status symbols, because their status becomes apparent very quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 09:46 PM
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Are you really that flummoxed when we live in a world that licks the boots of the wealthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 09:27 PM
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To be fair, men are drawn into money and suck up to people with money too. My ex was HNWI and he had some golddigger male friends. It was very eye opening how large amounts of money affects people. Men are not exempt from this at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/19 08:47 PM
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Stop being obtuse. There is a difference between sharing thoughts and discussing ideas and claiming you know the defacto truth. It turns into dogma, like the pathetic shit on TRP like “women are incapable of love”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 08:38 PM
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Because spreading false information is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 08:07 PM
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It’s different when someone claims they know the “truth”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/19 06:28 PM
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I’m not sure if you missed the point I made earlier, not all cultures hold the same value to female chastity, meaning it isn’t something necessarily inherent. Since our culture is changing and adapting, perhaps it’s time to question this belief.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 03:04 PM
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If something isn’t inherent, I don’t think it hurts to question your beliefs and feelings especially if it has a history of oppression. Times are progressing and there are more and more men who this isn’t an issue for them. But this issue isn’t simply about preferences, people degrade women for perfectly natural human behavior. If it was just a preference I don’t think as many people would pay mind but those opinions are frequently accompanied by vitriol about the women who do have more sex. Do …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:41 PM
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Oh wait a minute, no you’re not lol. Then proceeds to tell me I am right. Lol. An educated person realizes how little they know. When people talk in absoluteness, it signals they don’t know as much as they think. I trust peoples’ perspectives on this sub when they give balanced views.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 02:11 PM
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Women used to be committed to mental institutions for masturbation or promiscuity. There is a long history of keeping women down through their sexuality. Women should be able to do whatever they want sexually and not be shamed Yeah, there is a whole deep, ugly history to that. And women should be freed from that because liking and having sex doesn’t make someone mentally ill. Also considering not all cultures shame women for promiscuous behavior, I will say it’s not inherent in human behavior it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:47 PM
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I’ve got to disagree with you, human behavior/motivations are incredibly complex and constantly renegotiate with the environment. Yes, you can see some amount of patterns but it’s a mistake in psychology to point to one affect and say, “This is it! This is the one!” It’s reductionist and ignores all the other influences in a persons life.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:42 PM
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From an evolutionary perspective, women do have short term sexual strategies, if you think of cuckholding a beta. But the thing is human behavior is incredibly adaptable to environment, now that we have ways to control fertility, short term copulation is a more accessible behavior for women. Considering sex is pleasurable, it shouldn’t be a surprise some women may pursue some form of non-committal sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 01:37 PM
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Sure, I have some masculine traits. I’m assertive, motivated, independent, decisive, a bit rambunctious and rebellious, I can lead people, don’t want kids, pursue men, like sex and have it. Haha, a long term guy friend of mine today said the couple of times he’s seen me cry over the last 10 years, it’s been very masculine. Stone face, tear falling down my cheek. But I am feminine as well. My body, face and way I dress is very feminine, save for dark colors. I care about and have compassion for o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:57 AM
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The men I end up dating tend to have a feminine streak to them. A more emotional/sensitive than the average guy, some feminine mannerisms, likes some feminine things, have some bi curiosity, very caring. Hell, my last ex and I would spa days, paint our nails - he would get offensively bright colors and then tease me about getting dull colors, going shopping (his lead), he liked it when I put make up on him. But they all fucked me real good. Especially my last ex. So perhaps that balances out the…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 06:05 AM
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I guess you probably mean as long as he’s still masculine in other ways?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:49 AM
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By saying “I’m not surprised” I was essentially giving it a pass. Although the poster below is right, just divorce at that point. Why drag it out?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:47 AM
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Masculine tokens?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:38 AM
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No. My ex would always get excited when he got to drink the pink or blue drink. I thought it was cute. But in my mind, I find it hugely attractive when a man is so secure in his masculinity that he can do “girly” things and not give a shit what anyone else thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:33 AM
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False. Some men truly do not care.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:28 AM
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Dude, just because some women do don’t mean all women do. Come off it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:18 AM
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such as making her get a virginity test (even if its not foolproof, it is still better than not doing it) Oh my god, you would actually give a potential future wife a virginity test? That is fucking disgusting. And your reason for doing it doesn’t make sense either. It’s not foolproof but better than doing it anyway? Do you think you’d get a false positive or false negative? My guess is false negative, because it’s rare for the hymen to stay intact even without penetration. So what? Suddenly thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 05:07 AM
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Yeeesss. You are my kind of man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:54 AM
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Yeah, you’re a bit delusional if you think tens of thousands of people are all keeping in touch with the latest gossip. You most likely just have a specific subculture that is small. But it is entirely possible for people to fuck other people and cities and for no one to be none the wiser.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:41 AM
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I will never understand why someone would fuck multiple people in their social circle. Those are your friends, that’s sacred territory. I think it’s best to find people to fuck out of the social circle. Then there is never any of that baggage to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 04:37 AM
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Do you have examples of what you think cute, model looking and physically masculine all look like? Aren’t models typically masculine looking?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:37 PM
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Not a small number of married men turned to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 11:28 PM
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in almost any way you measure it Good for some. Stagnating wages and inflation has been incredibly harmful to the majority. Look at the disappearing middle class.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:39 PM
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Yet the majority of middle class families are still having kids and will still continue to have kids. Who gives a shit if a small portion of people choose not to? In fact, I’d say it’s essential at this point in our history. As a society and culture, we have reached a point where kids aren’t essential and that fact is reflected in all the western countries that have decreasing (or increasing less than previously) populations. Human beings have become a cancer to the earth, we take and take and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:27 PM
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Are you that blind to the hardships of poverty? If that’s the ultimate mission, people should just donate eggs and sperm, then their genes can spread even further. You’re also side stepping the fact that they may have other family members having kids, they can help support those members, thus helping your genes to survive. And frankly, who gives a shit about passing on your genes or not? It won’t matter one bit to them when they’re dead. Human beings have developed enough intelligence think beyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 07:02 PM
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The educated need to stop looking at everything like it has to be fucking perfect before it can be done. Oh give me a break, people should think critically about such a life changing decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:52 PM
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Have you ever tried being compassionate to people?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 06:41 PM
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Well apparently 80% of men can’t get laid, so...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 03:28 AM
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There’s a difference from not showing interest and blatantly pretending someone doesn’t even exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 02:25 AM
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He’s correct though. Hitting the cervix isn’t fun. But if your dick is too thin, it won’t be felt. Girth > length 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 10:19 PM
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It used to be way better for men.* Fuck that indentured servitude women had to endure in the past. Good riddance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 01:24 PM
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it would just be devastating to me to suppress that desire while the other person may be secretly indulging their own desire for novelty. So you’re going to preemptively cheat on the person you supposedly love just in case they do it too? Seems fucked up logic to me. I mean, I get it, I’ve thought similar things. If I was married and I found out my spouse was cheating, would I be more upset that they cheated or that I missed out on going out and getting strange? But at that point, why the fuck d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 06:01 AM
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Here’s another one! I don’t cheat either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:50 AM
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Welcome hoe, sista. We need more promiscuous ladies in this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/19 05:47 AM
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What point? That fact that you came onto a debate sub and then have a tantrum when people actually try to debate you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 11:57 PM
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> You are being rude illiterate and toxic. I am being rude? After you have insulted women at every step you took throughout this whole thread. > I never said the DSM said that ALL traits must be present I said it would need to list that SOME do. Really now? Because you said this in the previous comment: > If it was in the DSM then it would have a list of conditions that needed to exist not just "CAN". > femsplaining How? Because I challenged one of your assertions? > You are everything wrong wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:49 PM
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You should actually try learning. The DSM does NOT say all of the following traits must be present for a disorder to exist. It says a certain number of traits from the list provided must be present, not that all traits must be present. You do not see the concept of toxic masculinity in the DSM because it is not a mental disorder. It’s a sociological concept. Perhaps you should take your issue with social sciences up with the men in the field because you obviously dismiss anything said by a woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:20 PM
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Of course they have qualifiers, that’s social sciences work because human behavior and causes vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 10:06 PM
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Technically, stress kills men’s sex drives too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 07:29 PM
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Ah right, women are the root of all evil.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 05:52 PM
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Not in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/19 04:35 AM
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That argument doesn’t make sense to me at all. I have sex, including casual sex, precisely because I value sex in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 09:39 PM
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More like their diet isn’t absolute crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 05:52 PM
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Actually men do get something just for having a penis, the assumption of competence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 02:54 PM
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This notion I’ve always found a bit ridiculous. TRP tries to convince women to take on these traditional duties by arguing that men and women compliment each other, yet in the next breath devalues that contribution. Funny how some men need to establish how better men are than women at every step of the road. Insecure much?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 10:19 PM
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You can’t be productive when sleeping That is correct but it’s fallacious to then claim that being awake = being productive. You can be awake and not be productive quite easily. But tell me, how much on average are women sleeping more than men? Regardless, your argument can be blown out of the water quite easily. Let’s think of traditional monogamous societies, the man goes to his work shift while the woman stays home cleans, cooks, tends kids. She doesn’t have a shift because it never ends. Jum…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 09:47 PM
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What a ridiculous reductionist argument. Being awake doesn’t inherently mean you’re being productive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 07:56 PM
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There’s a difference between treating someone well, yet having boundaries and being a spineless doormat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 10:12 PM
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Apparently in the Netherlands is considered more serious/more of a commitment to get married than to have kids with someone. Some advice given to my friend was to test things out with a woman by having kids, then marrying after if it works out. But they also have much more solid social services than the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:15 PM
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We don't have a whole lot of physical requirements for women Lol. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:08 PM
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You don’t need kids and wife to care about living in a house and not in a crime ridden area. Jesus Christ.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 06:01 PM
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I never said it’s all about looks, I claimed is more nuanced but you claimed looks doesn’t factor in at all which is hugely false. You’re the one who seems to not get it, you keep flipping your argument to mean one thing and then the next.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 01:20 PM
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LOL! Oh please. That’s some shit that’s already been debunked in this sub. Telling yourself that women can’t love is merely a defensive mechanism because women don’t love you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 01:08 PM
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I mean, women have been murdered because of blows to a dudes ego. Men’s egos are highly tied into their sexuality. Why do you think not getting laid/being lame in the sack/having a small dick etc. are some of the most common insults to men? Why do you think so many men here complain about not getting sex yet refuse to go to a prostitute? Ego. “Men just don’t care what women think” is a bit of a stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 01:01 PM
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What, are you implying men don’t feel nor want love?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/19 12:55 PM
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No because there maternal certainty
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:42 PM
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I mean, following the maternal line makes 10x more sense than the paternal line.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:35 PM
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Dude, you’ve changed your argument half way through this discussion. Your original post said that women aren’t attracted to men, I assume you meant physically attracted. Yet you’re providing me examples of when looks do matter to women? Sort your line of thinking out for fucks sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:27 PM
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Technically sugar baby money is considered a gift, so it isn’t counted as taxable income. However, the sugar daddy will need to pay tax once his gifts for the year goes beyond around 14k. There was a court case about this with a mistress, the court ruled the money she received was a gift, ergo, not taxable income.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:15 PM
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Everyone sells themselves in one way or another. Just look at business, my god.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 06:09 PM
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They aren’t selling their bodies, they’re selling a service that is sexual in nature. How about you try thinking beyond your narrow world view.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:59 PM
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Dude, there was a study where they introduced a token system for food with monkeys. Guess what? The females started selling sex. Your view of selling sex is clouded by the puritanical sexual views that have clouded a lot of western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/19 05:54 PM
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Eh, you’ve never heard of the man who is so obsessed with work to the point where his wife feels neglected and they divorce? That seems to fit “career man” to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 08:44 PM
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Or there are actually well-adjusted men in the world? 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/19 05:08 PM
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What I find funny is all day long I hear from men on this sub how high men’s sex drives are, how much sex motivates them, how they’re not as picky, how women are really only worth one thing and why don’t women understand this?, how women have it so easy because as long as they’re not absolutely hideous, men will still fuck her. Then to balk at the notion that women may be on the defense when a man approaches her to “just chat.” Im sure there are many situations where men are not intending to hit…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/19 04:00 AM
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Lol, come on dude. You can say the same thing about men. “They’re not attracted to her, they’re attracted to the so called genes she’s signaling.” Give me a break. Just because women have more considerations than just looks for LTRs doesn’t suddenly mean looks don’t matter to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 02:57 PM
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All men want to be with good looking women too. Not all men can get with good looking women. But guess what? Whether this sub believes it or not average women are out there dating average men. I see these kinds of couples all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/19 01:37 PM
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I’d argue that it’s not that women don’t want an equal partner, they just don’t want someone beneath them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 08:02 PM
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superior in every way - looks Yeah, looks because women are attracted to how men look. This is a notion that comes up in TRP all the time. How can you be so blind as to say, “women aren’t generally attracted to men”. If you took a second to analyze that critically you’d realize it was a load of bollocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 06:47 PM
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Sure is convenient the prostate gland can be reached from a man’s ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:24 AM
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Absolutely this. If a guy is rarely around women then he just won’t meet women. Seems like a lot of people need to be social more purposely. They need to use the proximity and familiarity principles of attraction to their benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/19 02:18 AM
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it’s just simply shameful to be a slut in the first place It’s funny how you’re stating an opinion as fact. There is no objective truth in a promiscuous woman being shameful. You just can’t see outside of your sphere of cultural influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 05:08 AM
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Eh, I may size a couple up just out of curiosity sake to see if I think they fit together or not but it doesn’t mean I’m looking at the husband/bf like a snack.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/19 04:00 AM
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It’s entirely possible to have a mix of masculine and feminine traits. It’s not like I like my men completely absent of any masculinity but I like it a lot when they have some feminine characteristics along with their masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:04 PM
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Eh, I wouldn’t be so quick to extrapolate your conclusion that far. When I read her comment, I agreed with her but it’s more complicated than just any mistake. I’ve forgiven lots of small mistakes and blunders, it’s about identifying which are the mistakes you need to pay attention to, i.e. red flags, as they are indicative of something terrible. My guess is when you’re thinking of a mistake, you think of something like he didn’t call soon enough or forgot to text back while the previous comment…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 02:43 PM
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I like men with a feminine streak. I can’t stand hyper masculine dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 05:58 AM
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This is just so fucking false.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 07:05 PM
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A regular woman wouldn’t be able to tend to a crying baby and have sex at the same time. And if a dude didn’t make the effort to spend time with his kid then what the fuck would have been the point of even having a kid in the first place? Believe it or not, there are men who actually want to have kids and don’t need it force fed down their throat by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:56 AM
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No you didn’t. That is tossed around so frequently as fact and that is the exact way you posited it. Asking women to rate one dimensional photos when their attraction is more complicated than that and then stating that is the actual percentage of men having sex is a fallacious conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 04:48 AM
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Sure, it could happen. Everyone gets rejected but you just move on and if you have options anyway, it’s not really defeating. But the thing is, most of my relationships have stemmed from hooking up first. Why? Because when there is a connection, it’s undeniable and both people just want to be around the other and talk to them all the time. You just fall into a relationship. I look for that kind of chemistry when considering a boyfriend. If I had interest in someone but they didn’t reciprocate it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 08:45 PM
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Because desperation is unattractive in anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 06:18 PM
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You can guesstimate, you can tell whether someone is pulling their weight or if they’re doing barely anything or nothing at all. It’s not that hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 06:06 PM
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Hahah, I don’t know if I’ve ever thought about whether I’m someones ‘plate’ or not. Doesn’t really concern me because I have my own set of plates. Casually dating/seeing/sleeping with multiple people just seems normal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 05:57 PM
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I don’t really work off of binary. There is attractive and unattractive to me but then there is a whole bunch of grey area where I could find them in an attractive light if they had the right personality but otherwise seem neutral to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 05:51 PM
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I didn’t respond to you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 01:46 AM
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Whenever this topic comes up on any forum I’m on, I have the same response. There is no should here. All is fair in love and war. Man or woman, if you found someone you’re interested in, you better make a move before someone else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 01:18 AM
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Hm. My last boyfriend I messaged first, asked him out on a date and followed up after the date. A month later, he asked me to be his girlfriend. But sure, it never happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/19 01:17 AM
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Different women have different preferences. For me personally, face is tantamount and I can be more forgiving with body.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:02 PM
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But but but 80/20 you guys! Men are less shallow and like more diversity! Can’t count the number of times I’ve compared photos of SOs/hook ups with female friends and we both haven’t understood the others attraction to that There is so much more going on with female attraction yet the dudes on this sub are content with sticking their head in the sand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 06:00 PM
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Men not wanting kids is an inaccurate stereotype. Go to r/childfree. A LOT of men want kids of their own. Childfree women struggle finding childfree men frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/19 03:49 PM
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It has to do with feminism because women have historically been controlled through their sexuality. Her sleeping with that many men is giant “fuck you” to the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:03 PM
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Since everyone’s definition of what TRP really is, why don’t you explain to me what you consider core tenets of TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 08:00 PM
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TRP is just accepting the world for what it is, Except this isn’t what TRP does. It makes up falsehoods to bolster men’s ego so they’ll feel less insecure dealing with women. Example, that men’s love is more pure, which is a straight up lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:43 PM
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I think you need to be in a much more poverty stricken society to see this effect occur more.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:30 PM
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Thank you. I am fucking sick of people discounting women liking sex for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:27 PM
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Yeah, and men wouldn’t enjoy fucking most women either. When dudes think of women, they seem to conveniently only think of the young, hot women, not the fat, aging women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:21 PM
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And I’m explaining to you that they aren’t as good as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:17 PM
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Then just fucking say conventionally attractive instead of using these juvenile labels and indirectly lumping in a whole other host of qualities about the person.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:06 PM
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Yeah...that’s still not scientific. You are blatantly ignoring the fact that people use these terms to also indicate personality characteristics. Take Chad for example, I’ve seen people refer to Chads as someone who women like to fuck, not that’s not always a physically attractive guy. But you see how imprecise and messy these are? There will be multiple types of personalities even within these definitions you’ve given. It is very imprecise and can change the ideas someone expresses because diff…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 06:00 PM
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‘Pure sex’, you’re thinking like a dude. Even with casual sex, women still factor in safety concerns and whether the man’s behavior makes her feel safe or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 05:52 PM
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Honestly, this sub unironically using these terms (Chad, Becky, Stacy, whatever) is fucking laughable. It’s completely unscientific which is funny coming from a sub that likes to think it’s scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 03:13 PM
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Except both evolutionary traits and safety will be taken into account when selecting a mate. You can’t completely isolate either of them. And FYI, there are women who will just go for the handsomest men and there are women who will take the most safe, secure option. It will really depend on the environmental context.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/19 03:10 PM
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Why would they? Physical qualities are indicators of evolutionary advantageousness in both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 11:12 PM
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Why is it immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/19 02:36 PM
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I suppose the problem is there aren’t a insignificant amount of women who sacrifice their careers, bodies etc. to birth and raise both her and his children. It’s just a smack in the face after all of that to then get dumped for a younger, prettier wife who hasn’t sacrificed those things. Then you’re stuck taking care of the kids on your own, further impeding career development and limiting financial growth. And then to be called golddigger, mooch, lazy if you even think about collecting alimony …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/19 02:13 PM
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new crop One of the most disgusting terminologies used in reference to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/19 04:35 PM
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It’s because the women in this thread aren’t strictly talking about physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/19 01:58 AM
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His comment indicated that the polygraph test was just a placebo and they didn’t actually use one. They didn’t catch women lying, women just stopped lying when they thought their lies were being detected. Now, I agree that men on average have higher sex drives than women BUT I seriously think people downplay how much interest women have in sex. I also believe the way that female sexuality has been studied in the past has been fundamentally flawed. There are nuances to female sexuality that are u…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 10:30 PM
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Its allows people to temporarily satiate themselves until they can get sex, for fucks sake.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 03:20 AM
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Yes, the drive to get off sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:53 AM
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I mean, men’s sexuality is reactive too, they see a beautiful woman bending over - they’re going to react to it. Some women just need stronger / slightly different stimuli than men. I bet you’d be more likely to find a woman initiate at the beginning of a relationship rather than later as it’s fresh and new. You’re right that horniness can depend on hormone fluctuations. I’ve noticed midday tends to be my peak. But it can vary throughout the day depending on my mood etc. But us initiators are ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/19 02:00 AM
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> Having low sex drive This really varies by woman. I have a strong sex drive and sex passes my mind many times throughout a day > Strong interest on socializing/status/power/wealth by itself It's not just women who are interested in status/power/wealth. If you've ever spent time with someone really wealthy, there are dudes who will make absolute fools of themselves to try and get an into a wealthy person's money. Wealthy people are revered in almost any culture. From a woman's perspective, if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:38 PM
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Masturbation is an indication of someone’s sex drive you numbskull.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/19 11:07 PM
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Cock carousel tldr: women doing what men would do (and do do) in a heartbeat and men being bitter about it. Guess what? The human species has sex for pleasure. Is it so surprising that both members of the species would do just that? No. Women have been controlled through their sexuality for centuries. Now that women aren’t, they can explore and experiment like normal human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/19 03:10 PM
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Hahahaha. Bro. I’m probably one of the bigger sluts on this sub and I haven’t even made it to 100s. You’re deluding yourself if you think that is a typical case.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:41 PM
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As long as the men doesn’t mind she’s just using him for sex? People on here really like to paint the picture that women are just desperate for commitment from any man. Bullshit, women want to get laid too but they also have standards for relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:40 PM
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I suppose I am that exception for women. I do enjoy casual sex in and of itself. But you’re right, fucking someone with a misogynistic attitude who thinks they “gotcha” isn’t fun. I tend to screen for those attitudes. But I’ve also stopped caring about how others may view me. I live my life for me. As it turns out, I end up getting men that cling to me, the opposite of how PPD thinks it would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/19 04:31 PM
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I don’t, but just take a look at what the majority of women on this sub are saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:44 PM
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Women don't need feminism to realize that being treated like a servant feels terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:15 PM
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Someones personal relationship where this is agreed upon is none of my business and not the topic of discussion. You are asking us why this isn't worth it and we are telling you why its not. *You* are then telling us how the women in this thread should feel and if we don't agree with you that were 'brainwashed'. Good grief.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:08 PM
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But its not more money in a vaccum, you seem to be willfully ignoring that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:05 PM
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The resentment and anger that that situation would cause is not worth the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:04 PM
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So 0 evidence other than your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 10:00 PM
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You are 100% wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:56 PM
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Fuck all of that. The extra money is not worth it. I would way rather live on my own, make my own money and clean my own house than to be someone's servant. Why? Because you can't put a price on mental clarity and health. The resentment would grow, the disgust in my partner would grow, point blank, I would lose all respect for him. TA man who doesn't help around the house and offloading that work on to the woman in his life is selfish and lazy. You can tell when someone is putting in the bare mi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:51 PM
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Right, because being treated like a servant would make you feel peachy keen, wouldn’t it? You’re talking out of your ass with this brainwashing thing. In fact, telling women they should be happy to be treated like a servant sounds more like brainwashing than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:34 PM
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Not wanting a grown man to treat you like his mommy is not brainwashing, is called having self-respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 09:30 PM
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Not having obligations doesn’t mean you need to be a dick to the person. You can be friends with them. But it means that they do not have a say in your life, they have no say in where to go or who to see, you're not going to plan your future around them. Does the difference make sense to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 07:55 PM
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It is true that people can just walk away from a committed dynamic but its...different. People in a committed dynamic are under the assumption that this wont happen (at least in the forseeable future). Casual dynamics means I have no obligation to you. I do not need to tell you who I am seeing, how I am spending my time, where I am at currently. A casual partner would have 0 say on my life while a committed partner would. I would also be much more likely to simply walk away from a casual dynamic…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:28 PM
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Committed is where both parties agree they are in a relationship and they will be a part of each others lives, that they will communicate/see each other on a regular basis, have some sort of obligation to the other person. The details of what that includes will depend on the people involved. I would include exclusivity as part of that description but its not always the case, as you can be committed in a poly relationship. Casual means you are spending time with one another, fuck each other but d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 06:10 PM
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It’s not sexist, it’s an understandable preference but where you become the asshole in this situation is that you know she wants commitment from you which means you’ve been stringing her along if this is how you feel and she got to this point where she could even talk to you about moving in together. Stop it, you’re being a dick. Let her go.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:37 PM
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Despite the criticisms for your argument, I would generally agree with the notion. It’s funny when not good looking people complain that good looking people are shallow but they don’t realize the irony in their statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:32 PM
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It is true and not an uncommon scenario. When one partner gets hot, they realize their options open and they get curious. Both men and women do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 03:23 PM
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I mean, its iterated enough here that men will fuck anything and want sex all the time, so its a fair assumption, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:20 AM
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I mean you're right, we really have no idea what other peoples' experiences are like. But this is one of many times I have heard this sentiment, I suspect it rings true for a lot of people, like you said, even if they're not aware of it. ​ > Sure but vibes are just a heuristic for people, like being confirmation biased. Oh it absolutely is. When I think of vibe, I think of someone's sociability, their banter, and how they speak and what they say says about their personality. It is a heuristic an…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 04:12 AM
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Yeah, I disagree with your entire perspective. Honestly, it just seems like you’re trying to change the meaning of words to attempt to still maintain that TRP statement. A body is not who someone is. That is mental gymnastics right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:15 AM
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Nope. I am too selfish for that. So to you, someone is their body, but if they behaved in a way you did not like, you would not love them? But isn't that someones behavior affecting your love for them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 02:02 AM
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> loving the person (a person is just a body) for what it is is less selfish than loving it for what it can do for you. So you would love a woman if she treated you like absolute shit, as long as she was hot? This is where I fundamentally disagree with you. When I think of who someone is, I think of it as their personality which is expressed through their behaviors. Personality and actions can change based on context but the way we grow to understand and know people is through the consistent str…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:26 AM
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Hmm. I agree with you in some sense. I think the way people talk about themselves absolutely has an effect on the way others view them. Assuming someone isn't trying to directly manipulate someone, I would say people's words are a good metric on how they view themselves and what they aspire too. But I would claim that actions have a much greater reflection on, 'who they are'. If someone kept talking about how skilled they were X and then when they did X weren't good at it, that says a lot. Above…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:07 AM
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> I forgot which culture this came from (pretty sure it is Asian), but they hold a concept where everyone wears three masks. One mask is the mask we wear around everyone, one mask is the one we wear around our friends and family and other close people, and one mask that we only wear when we're alone. All three masks would make up "who someone is," but only the wearer would see all three masks. ​ I like this description the best because I think it most accurately describes people. They 'code swit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 01:01 AM
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And how can others see your personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:51 AM
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> "Conditional on who they are" can be a thing. I agree here, people cannot fall in love without knowing who someone is (or an approximation), otherwise, its simply infatuation > Looks are as close as "who you are" as you can get. I mean, considering the discussion below regarding the relationship between how people think of themselves and their actions aren't always aligned and it can change throughout time, you could possibly claim this is true in the most literal sense. But if someone serious…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:49 AM
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I.e. not the truth and shitting on women to bolster their ego. ​ By the way, it's not simply exaggeration when they claim it's the defacto truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:36 AM
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No, not really. The best is that it is simply framing, i.e. not truth, i.e. just meant to bolster men's egos by shitting on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:19 AM
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That's exactly what I'm trying to pin down, hahah. Because people determine who others are through a series of actions of the other person, that's the only info we have to determine who someone is. So the claim that men love women for who they are, rather than what they do seems like a bit of a farce. Either men love women for strictly their appearance, and not who they are, or they love women for their actions as well. (Obvoiusly physcial attraction comes into play for both parties but I'm side…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:08 AM
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Then TRP needs to stop claiming they know the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/19 12:04 AM
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This is what is funny to me about TRP, they claim to love science and truth, yet will make up bullshit to bolster their ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:57 PM
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The mindset that mens' love is somehow purer than womens' so men can feel elevated above women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:55 PM
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So if a man can only judge what he sees, would you agree that a man would determine who a woman is based on her actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:53 PM
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Can you describe how this is framing? Or why its important? Seems like an important topic to delve into.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 11:51 PM
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Coercion, grooming, influence. Seems like super beta. Im not sure I would classify that as beta...but I also wouldn’t classify it as alpha. It’s just straight fucked up psychopath shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/19 10:54 PM
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But as I've already said, different people are influenced by those emotions to varying degrees. Actually, you hadn’t said that before. You stated was male thinking was more influenced by logic. I do agree with you that what is important is how someone negotiates logic and emotions in their decision, however, I disagree with trying to separate it along gender lines. It creates a false dichotomy. It really is outdated thinking. Yes, there are absolutely emotionally reactive women, but there are pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:49 PM
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And I’m saying, men are absolutely influenced by their emotions in their decision making. Everything that people do is influenced by their emotions. Literally every decision people make is influenced by their feelings and their present emotional state.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:14 PM
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for most men, no This is patently false. Having had numerous very close interpersonal relationships with men, yes they do experience emotion and it absolutely does influence their decision making. Telling men they are the pinnacle of logic and reason is the biggest lie in society. Men are human. Humans are influenced by feelings. End of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 09:03 PM
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Thinking and feeling go hand in hand. All people are influenced by their wants, desires and emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/19 08:38 PM
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Sorry, tried was the wrong word. I did. But quite frankly, your reply is horrendous and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 03:34 PM
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Fuck, I am. Sex is fun. I tried shaking that virgin status as fast as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 01:22 AM
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Yup. This post was made exactly for you. Just stop. It’s just kind of pathetic how ignorant it is at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/19 05:26 AM
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It’s because his emotions seemed fake as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/19 10:10 PM
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Ah, I missed the “no sex escort” part in the OP. I thought you had replaced the term sex work from the title with escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 12:00 AM
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Actually, it was meant for cissnowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:38 PM
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I was merely pointing out your error in understanding. For a sub that touts so much about science, you’d think people would want to understand and use terminology correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:36 PM
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It’s the same shit with slut shaming. As the argument goes, it’s difficult for a man to be promiscuous so he should get lauded for it, while it’s easy for women so she should get shamed. There’s no real point in shaming someone for doing something easy, it’s just another excuse pulled out of a hat to shame someone for something that makes them feel icky. This is other than the fact that sex work is not actually easy, at least to be successful at it. It’s essentially sales and customer service, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:28 PM
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You’re confusing the definition of sex worker. It’s like how all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. Sex work is an umbrella term for employment in the sex industry, this can be escorting but not necessarily. It could also be camgirls, phone sex hotlines etc. These latter vocations do not include physical sex while escorting, by definition, does.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:16 PM
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Sex work is an umbrella term for a job that contains a sexual element to it, that doesn’t necessitate actual intercourse being involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:56 PM
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LOL! What a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 08:49 PM
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Hahah. You make A LOT of assumptions with your comment. I was merely explaining how attraction in person versus dating apps work for women. I was not seeking dating advice because, quite frankly, I don’t struggle with dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:18 PM
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There is something going on there. They’ve found that there are two points in a relationship where relationship satisfaction drops quite a bit, after getting married and after having children. So there is some evidence that something is going on, my speculation? People probably try at the relationship a bit less once it’s “locked down”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 08:12 PM
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Fuck no. Sometimes you just want to fuck but they aren’t a good enough candidate for a LTR Always. I would never agree to a LTR without fucking him first. I want to know if we have sexual chemistry and not sign up for a relationship where sex is an issue. Yes, I have higher standards for who I would agree to a relationship with compared to who I would have sex with. Sometimes you just want to fuck that guy you’re attracted to but you have two different sets of values or don’t have chemistry enou…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/19 12:52 AM
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I tried to get men who claim this to explain what they meant by "pair bonding" in a thread once and I still dont understand it. They seem to believe if you ever had an adult relationship break up for any reason at all it was because you werent sufficiently "pair bonded" or something. Right? Is it ability to fall in love? Stay in love? To stay in a relationship? If anything, it seems like low n count and low experience is a good way to romantically Stockholm syndrome someone. They’ll stay in a sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 02:58 PM
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High n count. No, it hasn’t affected my ability to love or stay in a relationship. But it has increased my standards, which is a great thing. I’m not going to fall in love with someone just because they showed me some attention or affection and I’m not going to stay in shit relationship because I didn’t know any better. “Pair-bonding” is a bullshit term someone made to make themselves feel intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/19 02:53 PM
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I’m with you. I care more about how they treated their sex partners rather than some blanket number.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:26 PM
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I think people need to rely less on using data apps as evidence for their claims. Real world versus some photos is a much different context. Female attraction is more nuanced than that. By showing women pictures of men, you are trying to measure attraction based on how men think of attraction. Many of my female friends and I don’t agree on who we find attractive. I’ve had friends multiple times ask me, “him??” I’ve always liked people with more character to their face and tend to be into classic…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:21 PM
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I suppose I’m an outlier. But I love men with a feminine streak. I like men who take care of their appearance, who are in touch with their emotions etc. I’ve dated multiple bi men. I like dressing them up in dresses or putting make up on them. I’ve pegged bfs before. I love seeing people break stereotypes, I think it shows such strength and confidence when someone follows their passion despite judgment from others. That says so much about their character to me. At the end of the day, I really ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:06 PM
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Can people not be curious, for fucks sake? Sex is an interesting topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:24 PM
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I don’t understand why some women get all uppity about it. I think bi men are great, it seems to be a common thread in my dating history.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/19 08:18 PM
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Sexlessness and desirability are two separate issues. You’re right that it doesn’t solve desirability but it does solve sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 09:09 PM
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Both u/poppy_blu and I were responding to the premise of the OP, which is what social programs can be implemented to solve the male sexlessness problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:39 PM
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And trying to create laws that force women’s hand so they have to settle for someone they don’t want is reeeaallllyyyy the way to do it, right? If they want to be desired then they have to put in the work to be desirable. End of story. Prostitution is the best compromise to satiate their sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 08:19 PM
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Eh, perhaps there are some (or many) who will struggle to learn a particular thing, but I think it’s a very small amount that have no hope whatsoever. Some people will just have a steeper learning curve and will need to practice a lot more. People just tend to not practice what they’re not good at, thus compounding the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:01 AM
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Uh, dude. There are average, charismatic guys who get laid all the time. What male solipsism, that he thinks looks is the only thing that matters for female attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 12:54 AM
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If you don’t believe in who you are and what you do, why the fuck should others?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 12:52 AM
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There’s a reason it hasn’t been done, because it can’t without extreme ethical violations.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 03:39 PM
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Yup. The “women don’t like sex”, “women aren’t attracted to men” guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 12:24 AM
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The last paragraph I quoted says literally the opposite - that men go after those girls and realise they made a mistake, wanting to go back to the "nice girls" after. This is not stating the opposite. This is stating a cause and effect. And by the way, OP never said, “go back to”.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 09:11 PM
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It’s not the opposite of that. They are identifying a common pattern amongst men and women who will pursue more attractive people and then realize later physical attraction isn’t the end all be all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:54 PM
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You should tell /u/MGTOWKapow3 that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:23 PM
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Just because women aren’t telling you, doesn’t mean they don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:16 PM
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Men hate the chase until it’s too easy and they judge the woman? You may not want to make such generalizations, I’ve heard plenty of men say they like the chase. It’s not hard to see why if you’ve ever been in a flirtatious dynamic with someone, it’s exciting and gets your blood pumping. Perhaps it is successful daters that like the excitement of the chase, while people who rarely have success may find it more nerve wracking and anxiety ridden.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:16 PM
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You may want to re-read it. Her conclusion was that this scenario is pretty much the same as women doing AF/BB, exactly as you just described in your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:11 PM
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To be honest, that is the exact reason “chads” have success...because they know how to fucking be social.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 08:09 PM
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Do you realize you can still get “divorce-taped up the ass” by a mail order bride?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 10:18 PM
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You need a higher spf, get it as a separate product from moisturizer and reapply 2-3 times a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 08:23 PM
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I agree with him and I’m a chick. And seriously? The fact that women have sex drives is that controversial to you that you needed to know the commenters gender? Although note: Not all men have a higher sex drive than all women. I’ve been the higher sex drive individual in a relationship before and it’s not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:30 PM
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FALSE!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:25 PM
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You don’t have to be into every single fucking man on the planet to be into men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 06:25 PM
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Seriously, they can teach you A LOT about how to be social.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 05:10 PM
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Better than being an indentured servant to a man for resources by far. Seriously, I don’t know why that seems appealing to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 12:48 AM
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Looks like you didn’t even read the article you posted. Yes, there are statistics, but none of them support the idea that casual sex is damaging to women. That was a claim that YOU extrapolated incorrectly. The claim the article makes is that casual sex is less satisfying to women. The article was from psychology today but they’re dealing with correlations. And I’ve seen time and time again people conflating correlation with causation on this sub and TRP. You are guilty of the same thing. No, I …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 08:10 PM
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Men do have the ability to be attractive longer than women, yes. I date older though, and MOST men do not look good as they age and only if they put in effort they can coast it for longer. MOST don’t though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 05:02 PM
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Three cheers for sunscreen! The holy grail.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:32 PM
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LOL! Hate the break it to you but men can get ugly as fuck as they age too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:26 PM
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Casual sex is damaging for women, and not enjoyable: This is utter bullshit. For one, no where in that article does it make a claim that casual sex is damaging. There is only attempt to make an inference based on a slang word used for sex. For the amount that TRP loves claiming to be scientific, they really do not understand that correlation does not equal causation. Do you know what else is highly correlated? Ice cream sales and drowning. Does selling ice cream lead to drowning? Of course fucki…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:24 PM
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Attraction doesn’t necessarily negate friendship. I’ve had multiple guy friends express their interest but once I rejected them, they remained my friend because they valued me as a friend, even if it meant nothing more would happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:00 PM
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I doubt she’s looking for something long term with guys in their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:44 AM
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Men tend to prefer younger women/women in their 20s. Men tend to date women younger than them. It does become more difficult to date as you get older, yes. ​ Don't let that discourage you, it's not a death sentence. Women don't suddenly look like the crypt keeper when the clock strikes 30 years old. Keep up on your appearance, exercise, eat well, reduce stress, have a skincare routine and for the love of god wear sunscreen EVERYDAY. (UV rays, stress and smoking are the biggest skin agers) Women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 11:49 PM
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I gotta agree with /u/ohheyhi99. The way that some dudes say it is meant to be demeaning and is trying to put someone in their place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 11:31 PM
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The guy is 29, I'm not surprised he doesn't want to date over 30. Men tend to date younger than themselves. Wait 10 years and he'll probably loosen his age standards a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 11:28 PM
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I agree, I think a lot of women’s issue is standards, which everyone should have standards. Sometimes it’s better to be alone than in a relationship that isn’t right for you. I relate to this comment the most. I’ve heard of women complaining about dating but I have never experienced any issues. In fact, I’ve met a lot of quality men. I suspect some women have a difficult time identifying red flags in a dating partner. But I also have a different dating strategy than a lot of women, apparently. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 04:19 PM
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Keep living your fucking delusions, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 03:29 PM
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But what you were looking for wasn't just shoving something into you, it was about tingles, it was about being desired, blah blah blah. Do you realize women can get something that is akin to blue balls? If they are turned on there is an aching that can happen that begins to hurt until she is penetrated. I don’t need the feeling of being desired to get turned on either, thoughts of fucking occur spontaneously in my head or when I see someone I find attractive. Bro, if someone doesn’t experience s…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:53 AM
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Im going with Occam’s razor on this one. Perhaps they’re just not that into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:40 AM
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Oh right, all the times I’ve sought a dude out to fuck was a lie, all the times I’ve fantasized about sex were a lie, all the times I’ve orgasmed and wanted more was a lie, my masturbation sessions where I’m thinking about hardcore fucking were just a lie, I must have been fantasizing about having sweet nothings said to me and being given gifts. LOL. Get fucking real. Gotta break it to you, whatever delusion you have in your head is absolutely false. You’re not a woman, you’ve never experienced …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:37 AM
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Why is it that women always try to reduce this to "LOL clearly the problem is you, shortcocked loser?" Because if you believe women don’t like sex, it likely means you’ve never experienced a woman genuinely wanting to have sex, meaning it’s most likely a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:04 AM
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because women don't like sex Just stop. This is patently false.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/19 12:00 AM
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most guys will still fuck sluts. Just probably wouldn't marry them I’d hardly call dudes treating her as yesterday’s trash, glorifying female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 09:13 PM
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while the entirety of female sexuality is glorified Lol, female sexuality is not glorified. But sure, I suppose we can conveniently side step the frequent use of the slur, “slut”, a word dripping with contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 04:03 PM
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Woman very rarely love men for the same reason. Women love the gifts, the servitude, the money, the mans status, and how he can make her life easier for her. If you have never experienced loving someone as a woman, you have 0 legs to stand on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:40 PM
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My god, that argument is such crap. Isn’t it women who tend to get with more average looking men because his personality is spot on? If you compare that to a group that bases a significant chunk of their partner selection on physical appearance, who are we really going to say is more shallow? So many of TRPs arguments just seem like projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 11:33 PM
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I see your point now. Lol took you a second to stop being retarded. You needed a basic idea spelled out to you and I’m the one that stopped being retarded? Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:33 AM
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Do you seriously think bad things don't happen to good people? Or good things don't happen to bad people? Or bad people don't ever treat good people like shit? Or good people don't ever treat bad people well? This whole post is in a historical context, her example was spot on. Do you think everyone who was enslaved was a bad person? Because according to your logic, only bad people get enslaved. Your "logic" is circular. No wonder /u/TheMarbleSlab stopped responding to you, it's like trying to ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 10:52 PM
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It’s called using an example to demonstrate error in logic. Valuable women were treated good. Shit women were treated like shit. Ergo, if a woman was treated like shit it means she was a bad woman and if a woman was treated well it means she was a good woman. Your argument is circular reasoning. It’s amusing that you try to blame your lack of understanding logic on her being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 10:19 PM
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Yeah, fuck everything about being financially dependent on a dude. What a sure fire way to lose so much of your power. I never want to feel stuck or trapped in a relationship because I sacrificed building my career for the relationship. Fuck all of that noise. Working is 10x better than being a SAHM, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 09:21 PM
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They know having sex with many randos is bad It’s only bad because of cultures judgment of it, not because it is actually bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 12:09 AM
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Thank you. I’m tired of hearing people tossing out that 80/20 thing without giving proper context to the data. Of course that wouldn’t bolster their opinion, so they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:17 PM
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Holy fuck, you sound like a horrendous human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:09 PM
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? What? Someone doesn’t have to be fat to have it affect them. Do you realize the ridiculous rates of eating disorders out there? And no, these aren’t just fat people. They are extremely thin people who have developed body dysmorphia from the constant assault of messages similar to your heartless comment,
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 07:04 AM
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You're right that what I was saying was a bit of a hyperbole. Women can be revered for being smart or innovative. However, just look at the posts in this sub that talk about how women should marry young while they're still beautiful, or that men don't care about their education level, as long as they're beautiful, or in any of the other subreddits where a picture of a woman doing something is posted and inevitably there are dudes commenting on whether she is hot or not. There is absolutely an un…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 09:18 PM
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Is that all surprising when you have a culture that constantly reinforces the idea that women are only valuable when they’re beautiful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 08:13 PM
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Yeah, that’s a load of bullshit. Men are not even attracted to most women. Only 21% of the female population in the US are between ages 18-34. Perhaps you could even bump that age range to 16-44 and give a generous extra 20%, that’s still not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:15 PM
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So you can only be attracted to a gender if you’re attracted to every single person in that gender? Cause you’re attracted to behemoth or aging women, right? Give me a break. Your “logic” makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 03:05 PM
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Right, the next time I’m masturbating to one of the countless men I’ve found attractive, I’ll tell myself to stop because some random man on the internet told me it’s not real. You’re a woman, you have no idea how it feels to be attracted, both in the literal and metaphorical sense, to another gender Is an incredibly ignorant statement and shows me you know zilch about female sexuality. The only way it makes sense that someone could believe that, is if they have never experienced a woman being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:02 AM
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Yeah, the assumption that casual sex is all that there is for a woman who doesn’t marry is absolutely ludicrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:25 PM
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LOL! Enough with this “women aren’t attracted to men” nonsense. It’s just some bullshit dudes in the manosphere made up to make themselves feel better about women not being into them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 09:57 PM
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Find yourself a nice size 0 or size 2 fun sized girl, make sure she'll do whatever you say, show her you mean business, and then put some buns in that oven. Congrats on your second failed marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 06:56 PM
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I’m not saying women don’t get turned on by very handsome men. But to think only 20% of men get in on it is a farce and you know it. The men in the “average” group can become VERY attractive to different women based on their personality. There are multiple factors at play, it’s a nuanced system, but by no means is it a binary system of attractive-not-attractive like that OKC study likes to make it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 01:14 AM
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You make the mistake of assuming female attraction works the same as male attraction. Physical appearance does play into it but it is also attributed to personality, confidence and vibe. That is something these studies miss. They just look at pictures but that removes a lot of what makes a man attractive to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 10:54 PM
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Seriously, it’s such a short sighted view to think that men and women can’t be friends and it ignores a ton of friendships out there. I’m surprised (or maybe I’m not) that I had to scroll this far down to find this comment. I have had multiple really long friendships with men that are still going strong. But there’s no winning this game, they’ll just say we’re naive, and that we “don’t really know.” Like they have some knowledge on these interpersonal relationships when in reality they know noth…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 06:45 AM
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I don't know man, sometimes people have had sex for years but still suck. Everyone has an aptitude for different things, for some people, sex is not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 12:52 AM
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Just the way you described things makes it seem like you've never experienced genuine mixed-gender friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:24 PM
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I would prefer a man who is similar to how I am. So has had a substantial enough history that he knows what he likes, he knows how to be good in bed, he's down to experiment, and he's not insecure. I want to be with someone who is really down to shake things up after things get a little staler. Also, I don't generally have a desire to train someone from the ground up, that can sometimes take years and I don't really have the patience to go through tons of bad sex. Having said that, I wouldn't co…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:34 PM
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Consensual incest would probably be a deal breaker for me, it would wig me out. Other than that, I don’t care someone’s number, I care about how they treated their past sexual partners. If they played them, said nasty things, serial cheater, looks down on them for doing the exact thing they did, just generally was a shit head, then I would care. That to me, says more about their character than anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:50 PM
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Ha, no. I’ve had plenty of sex with different men and in no way do I fall in love with every man, not even a small fraction. Yes, even if the sex was good. Any oxytocin released is not enough to make you blindly get attached or fall in love with anyone. There needs to be something more there. What a farce.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:43 PM
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I feel sorry for the “friendships” you’ve had.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:40 PM
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Casual sex doesn’t benefit women I’ll have to disagree. Granted, not every instance of casual sex is always stellar. But I like sex ergo it benefits me (a woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:38 PM
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Friendship compatibility does not equal relationship compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:32 PM
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I’m right there with ya. Especially if you already have a hint that they have feelings for you. That’s just asking to make a friendship awkward, messy, complicated and essentially ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:32 PM
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If I fucked a friend and he ended up being lame in the sack, then yeah, that could ruin a friendship. I’d have to go through that whole song and dance of rejecting him and then there would be this awkward vibe in the air. If I value someone as an actual friend, I don’t want to introduce sex into the equation because it makes things complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 07:28 PM
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Does it really have to be either or? Sometimes you want a home cooked meal made with love, sometimes you want to just go ham on some fast food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 11:13 PM
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Absolutely agreed. A catch is a catch, despite someone’s sexual history.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 08:12 PM
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I’ve got to agree with u/CombatStacey , I’ve known a lot of women who’ve had casual sex and they don’t have issues getting boyfriends they love, adore and respect. The women I see who have a hard time getting a boyfriend (at least the type they want) tend to not be that great of a catch themselves. Whether a woman has casual sex or not doesn’t have as big of an impact as you think it does. The biggest factor is the combination of their looks and personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 03:42 PM
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Women don't like sex just for sex sake. The comparison you made towards men’s sexuality and the assumption you made that only mentally ill women could is still making that same argument. Women enjoy and seek sex a lot more than you realize and give credit for.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 12:20 AM
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Perhaps not to the same degree as men but they are still some similar principles operating. The human brain finds novelty stimulating. Once you have done X thing for a while, it is less exciting than it once was. Our brains habituate to it. But new things (or people) are exciting and give us more stimulus. It’s no wonder why we have sayings like, “variety is the spice of life.” Variety rules human beings in many facets of life but to think women’s sexuality is somehow exempt from that is strange…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:49 PM
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Im not misunderstanding and what you’re saying is patently false. Perhaps women take more into consideration and may have higher standards when it comes to hooking up compared to men but to say women don’t enjoy sex for sex’s sake is absurd. Just because they aren’t as frivolous about it as men doesn’t mean they have no appetite for it. The idea that only mentally ill women can enjoy sex is also ridiculous. There are plenty of women with healthy, active sex lives who don’t have mental health iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:35 PM
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How on earth did you come to that conclusion? That is absolutely false. Women very much do have sexual desires and experience sexual pleasure, and no, there is nothing wrong with them mentally for enjoying it. They are human beings. Human beings are sexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 11:16 PM
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Because women aren’t allowed to like sex, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 09:09 PM
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Because sex is awesome and it’s fun to try it with different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/19 09:07 PM
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