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| 9 | Harvard shutting down same-sex clubs, but female-only groups get “grace period”It is classified as rape if the penetration is performed with a penis. Otherwise it's assault by penetration. Rape Assault by penetration EDIT Both carry the same prison sentence so it doesn't matter in the end, but they are, legally speaking, not the same. This might be more relevant in statistics and stuff. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/18 10:39 AM |
| – | Woman starts all female company to realize her Utopian dream and benefit the absence of men. Despite having made $500k in the first year she had to shut down due to catfights, jealousy, infighting, competition, sexual aggression and no work was done. Conclusion: she would rather employ males only.Not necessarily. I don't remember the exact numbers but where I live, the female/male ratio in education is: 95ish% female for preschool 75ish% female for primary school 55ish% female for secondary school (US equivalent to High School) It seems that, the higher the education, the more male teachers there are. EDIT: Data is for public schools EDIT2: Sadly, I can't find the actual numbers but I did find this official government chart for the primary school (or elementary) and secondary school. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/15 09:00 AM |
| 7 | What ‘Women Against Feminism’ Gets RightProbably because she feels the need to back up all her claims because they do sound ridiculous and nobody who isn't into gender debates would believe it otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 25/07/14 02:08 PM |
| 7 | The UK Government's anti-rape campaign which actually promoted personal responsibility has been criticised by a student group for "potential-victim blaming".The whole victim blaming mentality is really getting ridiculous, even outside of the whole gender debates. I had a discussion once where someone was seriously proposing that "the police asking cyclists and pedestrians to wear bright or reflective clothing at night is victim blaming" and that "car drivers are always 100% responsible". | /r/MensRights | 24/07/14 03:10 PM |
| 3 | 4chan explains Tits or GTFO, true equalityWould they have done the same with names that indicated that they were female? | /r/MensRights | 17/07/14 10:03 AM |
| – | Women ‘more likely to hit their partners’ | The Times"It's not a gendered issue, it's a human issue" is a phrase I use a lot lately to describe situations where the gender distribution is around the 50% mark. It does not put blame on anyone but accurately describes it as what it is; behavioral problems that have nothing to do with gender. | /r/MensRights | 25/06/14 09:44 PM |
| – | Look at all that wonderful male privilegeThe CDC classifies male rape correctly now? Last time I saw a CDC report, they classified it as "made to penetrate" and not "rape". | /r/MensRights | 20/06/14 08:08 PM |
| 1 | 38yo woman avoids jail for raping 15yo boy because she was lonelyI see... I learned something new today. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 01:55 PM |
| 1 | 38yo woman avoids jail for raping 15yo boy because she was lonelyThat is true, but it doesn't matter in the context I meant. The cited argument was made to clear the woman of rape-charges. In that context, it does not matter whether the boy agrees or not since, at the very least, it was statutory rape. The age of consent in Australia is 16-17 years (depending of area) and the only legal defence is if it can be reasonably assumed that the offender did not know that the victim was younger than 16 (or if both were aged within 2 years of each other, which is not … | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 12:27 PM |
| 16 | 38yo woman avoids jail for raping 15yo boy because she was lonelyJudge Paul Cuthbertson said the verdict suggested the boy either agreed to have sex or Henry failed to realise he did not agree. "the boy either agreed to have sex" - In cases of statutory rape it doesn't matter because "minors cannot consent". "or Henry failed to realise he did not agree" - Failing to recognise that you broke the law does not magically make it ok. Even if she did not notice, it is still rape if he didn't want to (and he did not since legally speaking a minor cannot consent at a… | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 09:11 AM |
| – | Aussie judge asks: If an underage boy and underage girl have sex, why is only the boy charged with a crime?So if there is no victim, what would be the case? I'm genuinely interested how this would work. Seems to me that it would have to be thrown out of court. I assume a case without rapist would be treated the same as any crime with an unknown perpetrator. But would it also count towards the rape statistics? | /r/MensRights | 28/05/14 03:19 PM |
| 19 | The Reaction Of Feminists To A Male Rape VictimFeminism stands for something, equality. I beg to differ. While feminists around the world have differed in causes, goals, and intentions depending on time, culture, and country, most Western feminist historians assert that all movements that work to obtain women's rights should be considered feminist movements, even when they did not (or do not) apply the term to themselves. [...] The British Daily News introduced "feminist" to the English language in a report from France. Before this time, the… | /r/MensRights | 29/04/14 07:25 AM |
| 15 | Why men need to stand together, no matter where we are.I'd wager that a rich person has it easier than a poor person when it comes to treating medical issues, regardless of gender. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/14 08:23 AM |
| 7 | If this is the new women’s movement, it’s no wonder girls don’t want to call themselves ‘feminists’The fire alarm was just the icing on the cake. The actual issue is that someone was not allowed to present her ideas on campus which is especially bad since that is the place where ideas, regardless of bad or good, should be explored and talked about. | /r/MensRights | 16/04/14 07:23 AM |
| 39 | Local paper gives name AND address of alleged rapistalleged rapist. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/14 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Great anti-circumcision image from Intact Houston, via Just SmithIt's almost as if it's "your body, your choice". Now that sounds oddly familiar... But I agree, it should be up the the grown up individual to decide for himself (assuming it's what you meant by "men"). I have one friend who is circumcised (in Europe, it's less common it seems). He talks about it quite often and I can feel that he resents his parents for it. EDIT: I just noticed I might have understood you wrong. If you mean that it should be a decision for men to take (as in only the father) th… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/14 06:59 AM |
| – | A friend shared this on Facebook. My friends list just got one person smaller.I don't mind the joke. What I mind is that if that same joke were reversed, it would be seen as evidence for patriarchy and @everydaysexism instead of just, you know, being a joke. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/14 12:52 PM |
| 10 | I wish more women would understand the kind of predicament this puts men inShe hates this mens rights subreddit and will make hateful comments whenever she sees me reading here. The bottom line is we do not discuses gender issues anymore. It is a taboo topic for our relationship. If it's a taboo topic, then why does she think it's ok to make hateful comments when you read this subreddit? I thought that taboo meant "I keep my opinion to myself but you also keep yours to yourself". | /r/MensRights | 21/02/14 04:34 PM |
| – | Women can't be sexistIt's not just by what oppressed demographic you belong to, but also how many. Once you point out that the "classic" oppression system contradicts itself (e.g. black men can't be discriminated against because they are men), they dish out the term intersectionality. Basically the more oppressed groups you belong to, the more valid your arguments are because "other people can't possibly know what you must be going through". What I dislike about this line of thinking is that someone's personality is… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/14 08:34 AM |
| 3 | I saw this at my university today. Obviously only men can be sexual predators.Nor do you have to, at least where I live. In my country, people are indeed required by law to help someone in danger (notice the gender-neutral phrasing), but only if they can do it without putting themselves in danger. In those cases, calling the police is deemed enough. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/14 10:29 AM |
| – | The representations of the female body in video games and movies are unrealistic and unattainableTheir actual argument is that male bodies are "idealized" while female bodies are "sexualized". As if those 2 concepts are mutually exclusive... | /r/MensRights | 26/01/14 09:54 PM |
| – | A helpful guide for parentsThis pretty much. I like all of the stereotypical male things, except for sports and overly exaggerated boobs and genitalia. My parents didn't mind me watching violent, bloody, gory, fucked up or sexual stuff (mind you, they made sure I could handle it and was not at risk) but somehow me having this weird interest in Polly Pocket playsets somehow was something to worry about. EDIT: I later found out that I was more interested in world-building and that Polly Pocket playsets basically were the on… | /r/MensRights | 12/01/14 06:27 PM |
| 15 | Feminist Men's group's article on how to be a good Dad. Shut-up, and give $$$$ to the Mother.I like how they say "do not listen to Father's rights group, because they are evil". Basically, they are saying "just listen to us, do not get a second opinion on this; don't even try to make up your own opinion. Just trust what we say". I've heard that line of thinking before... in abusive relationships. | /r/MensRights | 29/12/13 12:47 AM |
| 21 | Real talk?Groups, labels and stereotypes are natural. It's our evolutionary brain's way of simplifying things to identify possible threats ASAP. According to Daniel Kahneman's "Thinking, fast and slow" (and if I understood it correctly), our "fast-thinking brain" uses a ton of shortcuts to assess a situation ASAP. One of those shortcuts are stereotypes. Accuracy is not the goal, quickness is. We can't avoid it, it's like a reflex. Our "slow-thinking brain" has to correct after the fact the stereotype is m… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/13 11:35 AM |
| 4 | I think I like this one.One problem I have with feminism is the "patriarchy theory" because I simply don't see that privilege/oppression dichotomy; at least not with genders. The only real privilege I see is if you are so rich that you can shape the world to your liking without consequences of wrong-doing and that has nothing to do with gender. The other problem I have is that feminists in general (based on my dealings with them) try to sell feminism as if it is THE solution to gender equality, and not A solution. An a… | /r/MensRights | 24/12/13 09:28 AM |
| 2 | I suggest that the MRM movement throw it's full weight in support of Gay Marriage.I am against that simply because I think LGBT and Men's rights are 2 separate groups with their own focus on issues. If some issues overlap, we should definitely throw in our support but I wouldn't want to invade their movement with stuff they don't care about. That being said, seeing as how a lot of their stuff seems to be to remove gender locks from legislation (like removing the opposite gender requirement for marriage and adoption), we should definitely be sympathetic to their cause since th… | /r/MensRights | 20/12/13 01:19 PM |
| 4 | Feminists create employment blacklist in response to satireAccording to Hastac-Cofounder Cathy Davidson, "it's only a hoax". She responded to my tweet where I said where the the idea originated from. I asked her what exactly was a hoax: The idea of a feminist programming langauge that is still hosted on the site or the satire of an actual functional feminist programing language as it is being described in the article. I haven't gotten a response yet... EDIT: Unless I'm being trolled really hard. I have trouble deciding wether this is actually happening … | /r/MensRights | 15/12/13 06:57 PM |
| 10 | Saw this at a store today. If the label's were reversed people would be mad but nope. "All men are idiots"I agree with you on that. However, I will still point out when the double standard turns up and somehow the same joke "suddenly stops being funny" once gender is reversed. For instance: Nostalgia Chick's review of Wild Wild West Scene 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewlvoXkKwaY&t=4m19s Mention seeing Will Smith's penis in Wild Wild West and playing it off with a rewind-play routine to rerun the footage 4 times for comedic effect. That's all right, no sexist objectification here. Scene 2: http:… | /r/MensRights | 14/12/13 11:09 PM |
| 16 | At least one female gamer gets it....And that's how it should be. I've been playing a new MMO for a few months with the same online group and I only found out last week by accident (current topic of discussion) that a big chunk of them is female. Fun fact: They thought I was a woman too. Nothing really changed though, we kept playing as we did before. | /r/MensRights | 30/11/13 04:38 PM |
| 6 | "A man who suffered months of violence at the hands of his fiancee has spoken of his ordeal to help raise awareness of domestic abuse against men."I'm no expert in psychology and have myself trouble understanding it, but I suspect it's the same reason women stay with their abusers. Here's a list I digged up after a quick google sessions: http://www.theadvocacycenter.org/adv_violencewhy.html | /r/MensRights | 26/11/13 06:26 PM |
| 5 | This just turned up on r/Australia. I can't even...What I'm asking is does paranoia about a non existent rape culture actually help bring that culture into existence? I don't know, but it does cause men to refuse helping children in danger: http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/04/04/did-pedophilia-hysteria-cause-child-death/ | /r/MensRights | 26/11/13 03:01 PM |
| 16 | Mom's nearly castrates 6-year old son as punishment, tries to fix wound with super glue (x-post from /r/rage)The article about a woman burning the boy's penis that was featured here some days ago is getting between 8 and 35 years if I remember correctly. Seems to be highly dependent on state. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 08:47 PM |
| 4 | Cathy Young: Mean girls test biases about women as well as beliefs in Patriarchy TheoryI once read an interview response that basically said "Would you have made an article about men's issues if we haven't reacted in this manner". From that standpoint, I can totally understand it. I actually enjoy most of AVFM, and I watch /u/girlwriteswhat on Youtube. They have done a lot for me personally by helping me figure out how to voice my opinion and pointing me to some data to get started. By that alone, I'd say they are an asset to the MRM. It's just that some AVFM articles seem a lot m… | /r/MensRights | 22/10/13 03:15 PM |
| 17 | Cathy Young: Mean girls test biases about women as well as beliefs in Patriarchy TheorySome leading men’s rights websites such as A Voice for Men offer a steady diet of vulgar woman-bashing that discredits any valid points they may make. I have to say though that, although I learn a lot from AVFM and read it regularly, some articles are way too cynical or sarcastic for me to enjoy or share. EDIT: Quoted the wrong text. Fixed. | /r/MensRights | 22/10/13 02:25 PM |
| 13 | ABC will air a 20/20 program about Manosphere and Mens Rights groups harassing women online. Anita Sarkeesian has a starring role and will talk about the "abuse" she received from men online. I wonder if ABC will mention MRAs being attacked and abused by feminists in Toronto twice this year.Also, Sarkeesian got a lot of hate because of her videos; that is: because of stuff she has actually said and done and not because of her gender. The fact that her videos are the reason she got hate however is a fact that doesn't get mentioned a lot. I see no sexism in the Sarkeesian debacle, I only see abuse. Sure, a lot of those comments were sexist, but that's because trolls use what's most effective. And knowing that Sarkeesian is a feminist, they used that. | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 08:29 AM |
| 44 | ABC will air a 20/20 program about Manosphere and Mens Rights groups harassing women online. Anita Sarkeesian has a starring role and will talk about the "abuse" she received from men online. I wonder if ABC will mention MRAs being attacked and abused by feminists in Toronto twice this year.So, they keep deleting non-abusive, non-threathening, no-bullshit, well-thought-out comments that provide some backstory and alternative views (which can be further researched into online) that they themselves should have mentioned as part of their journalistic duty? Why doesn't that surprise me... | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Edinburgh University 'Blurred Lines' Fiasco – Union Censors Song, Set to Be Most Popular in HistoryI agree that it isn't 'censorship'. Private entities have the right to be more restrictive (as long as alternative Unions are allowed). But I still find it sad that it is done at a university; a place that should be open-minded and where ideas should be explored and analysed from every possible perspective. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/13 12:59 PM |
| 1 | This is the 'male ally guide' for a radical feminist movement. There are men in this movement, and they've clearly been brain-washed into self-loathing. Is there any way we can save their lost souls?The poignant question would be: according to whose perspective? | /r/MensRights | 13/09/13 06:15 PM |
| 4 | Mom writes a letter to her sons' female Facebook friends: 'FYI (if you're a teenage girl)'I agree, but "[he] will only be able to see you in a sexual way" "as if boys and young men don't see women sexually and sometimes as naked" I think there lies the important difference. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/13 12:34 PM |
| 6 | Mom writes a letter to her sons' female Facebook friends: 'FYI (if you're a teenage girl)'Goatse isn't sexual because the intend was not to arouse sexual or intimite desires, which is kind of the definition of sexual. Posing on the other hand might be sexual depending on the attire and pose, but then again, we only have the woman's word to trust on it. Judging from the way she is writing, I wouldn't trust her too much. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/13 12:00 PM |
| 25 | Mom writes a letter to her sons' female Facebook friends: 'FYI (if you're a teenage girl)'Yeah girls, don't act like that in front of my boy. You know how he is, once he sees you naked, he can't unsee it and will only be able to see you in a sexual way. I think it's best you dress up completely from head to toe. I heard black is a good colour. Ok, ok... I might have gone a bit overboard with the last 2 lines, but that's what this honestly reminds me of. I'm glad that she puts some(1) responsibility on the girls, but I think that's the wrong kind of responsibility. EDIT: Added a word(… | /r/MensRights | 13/09/13 11:22 AM |
| 28 | This is the 'male ally guide' for a radical feminist movement. There are men in this movement, and they've clearly been brain-washed into self-loathing. Is there any way we can save their lost souls?I stopped reading at point number 3 The culture we want to move into will be women-centered That pretty much says it all. This group does not want equality, they want a matriarchy. | /r/MensRights | 13/09/13 09:01 AM |
| 2 | Wikipedia BiasThank you so much for this comment. I'm going to use it in the future against "if you're not feminist, you must be against equality" arguments. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Wikipedia BiasWhat I see is citation wars. Look at the domestic violence bit. The claim that DV is gender-symmetric has at least as many sources as the phrase saying "critics reject cited sources". | /r/MensRights | 10/09/13 08:48 PM |
| 5 | Wikipedia BiasProbably has something to do with this | /r/MensRights | 10/09/13 08:39 PM |
| 11 | It can only be equal if it's from a pro-feminist viewpointI'd like to borrow a quote from Ricky Gervais and modify it a bit. "Feminism doesn't have the monopoly on equality". You can be for equality and not be a feminist. It may be trivial but I think people need to be told... | /r/MensRights | 09/09/13 08:49 PM |
| 15 | Hats off to this UK Judgeonly the child's father? That just made me sick... | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 04:20 PM |
| 10 | Hats off to this UK JudgeYes, please more of this... I personally have witnessed how dysfunctional social workers can be. At the time, they wanted to take my little sister away from the family, even though she was at no risk of being abused. Better yet, we even had a system in place where she would visit her father every second weekend at least and everything was mutually decided without ever needing to go to court. And yet, social workers deemed my sister to be "at risk" and wanted to take her away, not even saying if … | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Should Alimony Be Banned? ~ The Young TurksSo what? If both parties agreed to it then I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm here for equality, not for telling people how they should lead their marital lives by limiting their options. So if both can demand limited alimony, I'm happy from an egalitarian standpoint. Also, in my example there is no role-reversal. That's the entire reason I have written it in a gender neutral tone (spouse: a husband or wife, considered in relation to their partner - Oxford dictionary). You are criticising… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/13 06:38 AM |
| 5 | Should Alimony Be Banned? ~ The Young TurksI like the idea of rehabilitative alimony. Sure, if(1) the spouse(2) didn't have a job all that time, the time after the divorce is going to be hard and I do think support should be given. However, that support should be spent towards becoming self-sufficient. Alimony is then removed and both can live separate and independent lives again. 1: Note the "if". If both were working and are self-suffient after divorce then no alimony is necessary 2: I deliberately chose a gender-neutral term because w… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/13 12:58 PM |
| 4 | It's OK to objectify people if those people are just men........I don't understand how one comes to that conclusion... From my Youtube response: From my understanding, the original was about a guy begging the woman to chose him and to please continue (since apparently, she only grabbed and didn't give explicit consent for more, hence the title "blurred lines"). One "selling point" was that his dong was big enough to rip one's ass in two. Juvenile, yes... but whatever... The only odd thing about the whole "scandal" was the music video. The visuals were parod… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/13 12:38 PM |
| – | AskFeminists didn't like my question, I guess...The best part is that it seems to directly contradict the sub-reddit's supposed goal. From the sub-reddit: "feminist-supportive questions still belong in /r/Feminism, but those questioning or criticizing feminism should direct their discussions here." Another odd thing is that OP now says the he was banned from both /r/AskFeminists AND /r/Feminism, which to me indicates a huge bias. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/13 10:42 AM |
| – | AskFeminists didn't like my question, I guess...At least he or she isn't getting banned for an unpopular opinion. MRAs tend to be more keen on the whole free speech for everybody part. | /r/MensRights | 02/09/13 10:33 AM |
| 1 | The Jezebel business model, summed up in one pictureUnlike feminism, the MRM does not seek special privileges for men that no one else gets to have. As long as it stays that way, I will have no problems with the MRA and will listen to what they have to say. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Italy recently passed a law about "femicide"; stalking, harassing, killing women is punished more severelyWhat strikes me most about this is that the law wants to address femicide... So what does femicide mean? According to Wikipedia, it means "a man that killed a woman because she is a woman". While the definition is weird, it still clearly defines the motivation: "because [the victim] is a woman". However, the cases described in numerous articles about this law are not cases of femicide. "Men who can't let go" and are stalking are not killing their love interest because they are women, they do it … | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 04:38 PM |
| 3 | The Jezebel business model, summed up in one pictureFair enough. Your arguments are reasonable and coherent, and that's worth a lot to me when it comes to accepting different views on any topic. Just wanted to respond to 2 points: The problem, in practice is, some sides find it profitable to keep pushing even after they have hit the middle on some issues. This is where our problems with feminism arise. I agree with you on that. This is the reason why I argue the most against feminists. They often do. Many people in this sub claim that the MRM is … | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 03:26 PM |
| 3 | The Jezebel business model, summed up in one pictureI'm sorry, but if you only look at women's issues or look at things from a female perspective only (female-centric) then one gender is clearly put above the other. Considerations from the other gender are completely ignored. Claiming this to be equality is ludicrous. That's why I said that feminism is a special interest group. It looks after its group's interests only. If they'd identify themselves as that instead of an egalitarian movement (where everybody's issues is considered equally), then … | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 02:26 PM |
| 6 | The Jezebel business model, summed up in one pictureSo what you are saying is that feminism is by definition "female-centric"? Then it is not about equality. What you are describing is a special interest group. There's nothing wrong with that, but in my books it's not equality if one party is held above the other. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/13 01:04 PM |
| 6 | Feminist propose massive vandalism against WikipediaI think we reached Poe's law here because I can't decide wether this is satire or for real. | /r/MensRights | 26/08/13 06:37 AM |
| 16 | Feminists at Sydney Uni publish pictures of their "vaginas" on cover of student mag because, you know, patriarchy.I kinda have mixed feelings about this because that anti-labia-law is really stupid. If you reached the point where you show a Vulva, why not show it as it is? I get what they are trying to do and I support their protest, but Lily's reasoning on why she in particular has done it sounds a bit off to me. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/13 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Dr Phil under attack for 'misogynist tweet' which merely contained the question "Is it ok to have sex with a drunk woman?"I'm sad that it's not even allowed to ask such a question because the answer is very grey and handled poorly in courts. In my personal opinion, it depends on "how drunk" we are talking about. Is it merely slightly drunk, which just causes the woman to be overly euphoric? Or are we talking about black-out drunk, where the woman doesn't even know what's happening around and/or to her? Both cases are VERY different from each other but still fall under the "sex with a drunk woman" umbrella. Also, ho… | /r/MensRights | 21/08/13 08:29 AM |
| 2 | In Finland's Ministry of Social Affairs and Health, there's a "Department of Gender Equality" which consist of 12 women but no men.I'm not saying that it is ideal and I'd surely welcome a more diverse setup. I agree with you on that. However, I don't think that it needs intervention if the all-women-board formed naturally without any encouragement, bias or internal rule. A counter-example: Germany has 1 equality minister for every state (don't know the correct terminology on the fly). Some of the states however only allow that post to be filled by a woman. In this example, I do take issue because it was encouraged by govern… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 10:42 PM |
| 3 | In Finland's Ministry of Social Affairs and Health, there's a "Department of Gender Equality" which consist of 12 women but no men.I honestly don't see the issue. I am absolutely against quotas because I don't see gender as a prerequisite to develop fair laws. Just keep any mentions of gender out of laws and we're good. So, as long as this situation is not enforced or encouraged by the government I'm fair game. On a similar note, I regularly criticise political parties who want to introduce women quota (not even gender quota; women quota by name) because they think that only women can address female problems. If I were to c… | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 12:43 PM |
| 6 | Men Want Women to Split Dating Costs But Are Scared to AskI don't like to split costs. I prefer voluntary payment of common activities. For instance: I pay for dinner. Next day, she pays for groceries for both of us when I stay over. And all that without any one of us ever actually asking "who's paying this time?". It's common sense really... | /r/MensRights | 20/08/13 12:02 PM |
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